From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 7 01:56:59 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9528016A4CF for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 01:56:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 600FE43F75 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 01:56:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB79upRm003322; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 01:56:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id hB79uoIw003321; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 01:56:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 01:56:50 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Andrew Gallatin Message-ID: <20031207095650.GB3149@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <16336.62756.56554.414294@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <16336.62756.56554.414294@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.2-BETA Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: -msoft-float? -finline-limit=15000 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2003 09:56:59 -0000 On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 04:14:12PM -0500, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > I assume we want something like the following? Yep. (committed to make sure it doesn't get lost) From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 8 14:12:31 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C329616A4CE for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:12:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DBCB43D2A for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:12:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB8MCPqt008593 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:12:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.12.9p2/8.12.9/Submit) id hB8MCKB7016824; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:12:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16340.63300.545320.669373@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:12:20 -0500 (EST) To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Subject: BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 22:12:31 -0000 May I commit the appended patch? It allows me to actually use ddb and BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER. It seems to work fine: FreeBSD/powerpc (g4) (ttya) login: [halt - sent] Stopped at 0x191184: or r26, r3, r26, db> t 0xeb4d6c20: at zs_intr+0x5c 0xeb4d6c40: at intr_handle+0x38 0xeb4d6c60: at openpic_intr+0x4c 0xeb4d6c80: at powerpc_interrupt+0x5c 0xeb4d6cb0: kernel EXI trap by sched_runnable+20: srr1=0x209032 r1=0xeb4d6d60 cr=0x40007ba8 xer=0 ctr=0x31a5dc : at idle_proc+0x54 0xeb4d6d60: at _end+0x3fc5ea44 0xeb4d6d70: at idle_proc+0x54 0xeb4d6da0: at fork_exit+0xc4 0xeb4d6dd0: at fork_trampoline+0xc saved LR(0x7c0802a2) is invalid. db> c Thanks, Drew Index: powerpc/include/cpufunc.h =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/powerpc/include/cpufunc.h,v retrieving revision 1.18 diff -u -r1.18 cpufunc.h --- powerpc/include/cpufunc.h 23 Feb 2003 13:47:44 -0000 1.18 +++ powerpc/include/cpufunc.h 8 Dec 2003 21:52:27 -0000 @@ -47,16 +47,17 @@ struct thread; -#ifdef __GNUC__ +#ifdef DDB +void ddb_trap(void); +#endif static __inline void breakpoint(void) { - - return; -} - +#ifdef DDB + ddb_trap(); #endif +} /* CPU register mangling inlines */ From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 8 14:38:18 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A265216A4CE for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:38:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from liberty.onthenet.com.au (liberty.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E08B43D25 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:38:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from freebsd.org (CPE-30-201.dsl.onthenet.net [203.144.30.201]) hB8Mc7ZG049304; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 08:38:07 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <3FD4FD4A.6070504@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 08:38:02 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030524 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Gallatin References: <16340.63300.545320.669373@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> In-Reply-To: <16340.63300.545320.669373@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 22:38:18 -0000 > May I commit the appended patch? It allows me to actually > use ddb and BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER. It seems to work fine: Go for it ! > saved LR(0x7c0802a2) is invalid. That's something else that was annoying me, but I've never looked into it. later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 8 15:14:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9356716A4DC for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:14:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (A17-250-248-83.apple.com [17.250.248.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2944843D36 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:14:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from leimy2k@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin08-en2 [10.13.10.153]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.12.6/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id hB8NIYcq009707 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:18:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (adsl-156-166-212.jan.bellsouth.net [66.156.166.212]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin08/MantshX 3.0) with ESMTP id hB8NEDxO004766 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:14:14 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v606) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <39194E04-29D4-11D8-9B51-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org From: David Leimbach Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:14:07 -0600 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) Subject: starting fresh X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 23:14:20 -0000 Ok... there has been a lot of activity... If I wanted to start fresh on my Powerbook what would be the easiest way? Is there a way to get a CD image or anything? Dave From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 8 16:50:59 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E1D116A4CF for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:50:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from liberty.onthenet.com.au (liberty.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 310AC43D13 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:50:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from freebsd.org (CPE-30-201.dsl.onthenet.net [203.144.30.201]) hB90ouZG050269; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:50:56 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <3FD51C6A.2020508@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 10:50:50 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030524 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Leimbach References: <39194E04-29D4-11D8-9B51-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <39194E04-29D4-11D8-9B51-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: starting fresh X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 00:50:59 -0000 Hi Dave, > Ok... there has been a lot of activity... If I wanted to start fresh on > my Powerbook what would be the > easiest way? > > Is there a way to get a CD image or anything? Not quite. Have a look at the 'CDROM boot' section at http://people.freebsd.org/~grehan/install.html You should get a copy of the latest loader, which I've just put up at http://people.freebsd.org/~grehan/loader .. and also the last syscons-enabled kernel: http://people.freebsd.org/~grehan/kernel.syscons later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 8 18:57:41 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1389916A4CF; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 18:57:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F96443D25; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 18:57:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from leimy2k@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin07-en2 [10.13.10.152]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.12.6/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id hB931wcq011991; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 19:01:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (adsl-156-166-212.jan.bellsouth.net [66.156.166.212]) (authenticated bits=0)hB92vbaN006171; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 18:57:37 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <3FD51C6A.2020508@freebsd.org> References: <39194E04-29D4-11D8-9B51-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> <3FD51C6A.2020508@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v606) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <6E43B9CE-29F3-11D8-BE9A-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David Leimbach Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 20:57:31 -0600 To: Peter Grehan X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: starting fresh X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 02:57:41 -0000 This kernel doesn't boot. When I set currdev=cd:. I get a little closer but then the loader complains that it can't load 'kernel' no bootable kernel. Dave I still get tons of method not found errors... On Dec 8, 2003, at 6:50 PM, Peter Grehan wrote: > Hi Dave, > >> Ok... there has been a lot of activity... If I wanted to start fresh >> on my Powerbook what would be the >> easiest way? >> Is there a way to get a CD image or anything? > > Not quite. Have a look at the 'CDROM boot' section at > > http://people.freebsd.org/~grehan/install.html > > You should get a copy of the latest loader, which I've just > put up at > > http://people.freebsd.org/~grehan/loader > > .. and also the last syscons-enabled kernel: > > http://people.freebsd.org/~grehan/kernel.syscons > > later, > > Peter. > From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 9 02:01:21 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F141616A4CE for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 02:01:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from liberty.onthenet.com.au (liberty.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB7CF43D13 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 02:01:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from freebsd.org (CPE-30-201.dsl.onthenet.net [203.144.30.201]) hB9A1JZG052439; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 20:01:19 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <3FD59D94.8040204@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 20:01:56 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030524 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Leimbach References: <39194E04-29D4-11D8-9B51-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> <3FD51C6A.2020508@freebsd.org> <6E43B9CE-29F3-11D8-BE9A-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <6E43B9CE-29F3-11D8-BE9A-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: starting fresh X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 10:01:22 -0000 Hi Dave, > This kernel doesn't boot. When I set currdev=cd:. I get a little closer > but then the loader complains that it can't load 'kernel' > no bootable kernel. I just built a fresh CD with the latest loader/kernel, and it works OK on my eMac. So, From the OpenFirmware prompt, can you do a directory of /boot/kernel/ ? i.e. 0 > dir cd:,\boot\kernel\ 3447548 12/ 9/ 3 19: 4:40 kernel ok Then, it should be able to be seen from the loader prompt: OK ls -l /boot/kernel /boot/kernel 3447548 kernel > I still get tons of method not found errors... This can be avoided with the new loader by specifying currdev as the first parameter e.g. 0 > boot cd:,\boot\loader cd:, later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 9 06:14:46 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9747916A4CE; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 06:14:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (A17-250-248-97.apple.com [17.250.248.97]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B503643D34; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 06:14:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from leimy2k@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin08-en2 [10.13.10.153]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id hB9EEiiQ011111; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 06:14:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (adsl-156-166-212.jan.bellsouth.net [66.156.166.212]) (authenticated bits=0)hB9EEhxO024579; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 06:14:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <3FD59D94.8040204@freebsd.org> References: <39194E04-29D4-11D8-9B51-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> <3FD51C6A.2020508@freebsd.org> <6E43B9CE-29F3-11D8-BE9A-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> <3FD59D94.8040204@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v606) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <07DEDA0A-2A52-11D8-B092-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David Leimbach Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 08:14:41 -0600 To: Peter Grehan X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: starting fresh X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 14:14:46 -0000 On Dec 9, 2003, at 4:01 AM, Peter Grehan wrote: > Hi Dave, > >> This kernel doesn't boot. When I set currdev=cd:. I get a little >> closer >> but then the loader complains that it can't load 'kernel' >> no bootable kernel. > > I just built a fresh CD with the latest loader/kernel, and it > works OK on my eMac. So, > I am starting to think its the tool I used to build the CD. I can boot from the image but I can't figure out why the loader can't load it. I used Mac OS X's hdiutil makehybrid to build an image > From the OpenFirmware prompt, can you do a directory of /boot/kernel/ > ? > i.e. > > 0 > dir cd:,\boot\kernel\ > 3447548 12/ 9/ 3 19: 4:40 kernel ok > I get 57344 10/24/ 3 8:58:33 kernel 3447548 10/24/ 3 9: 3:26 kernel.syscons ok 0 > > Then, it should be able to be seen from the loader prompt: > > OK ls -l /boot/kernel > /boot/kernel > 3447548 kernel > > > I still get tons of method not found errors... > > This can be avoided with the new loader by specifying currdev as > the first parameter e.g. > > 0 > boot cd:,\boot\loader cd:, can't load 'kernel' Don't know... Perhaps I will make a tar of my CD layout and build the ISO on a DragonFly or Linux box and move it back to the Mac where my only burner is. Dave > > later, > > Peter. > From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 9 06:20:56 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF18216A4CE for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 06:20:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B453343D21 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 06:20:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB9EKsqt025810 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 9 Dec 2003 09:20:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.12.9p2/8.12.9/Submit) id hB9EKnvk017935; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 09:20:49 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16341.55873.827363.148168@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 09:20:49 -0500 (EST) To: David Leimbach In-Reply-To: <07DEDA0A-2A52-11D8-B092-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> References: <39194E04-29D4-11D8-9B51-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> <3FD51C6A.2020508@freebsd.org> <6E43B9CE-29F3-11D8-BE9A-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> <3FD59D94.8040204@freebsd.org> <07DEDA0A-2A52-11D8-B092-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: starting fresh X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 14:20:57 -0000 David Leimbach writes: > > can't load 'kernel' After seting currdev to the CD, what happens if you do things like "ls" ? Drew From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 9 07:17:40 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C313516A4CE for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 07:17:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (A17-250-248-88.apple.com [17.250.248.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5DD343D1D for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 07:17:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from leimy2k@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin07-en2 [10.13.10.152]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id hB9FHaK5013377; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 07:17:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (adsl-156-166-212.jan.bellsouth.net [66.156.166.212]) (authenticated bits=0)hB9FHZhc028139; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 07:17:36 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <16341.55873.827363.148168@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> References: <39194E04-29D4-11D8-9B51-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> <3FD51C6A.2020508@freebsd.org> <6E43B9CE-29F3-11D8-BE9A-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> <3FD59D94.8040204@freebsd.org> <07DEDA0A-2A52-11D8-B092-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> <16341.55873.827363.148168@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v606) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David Leimbach Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 09:17:33 -0600 To: Andrew Gallatin X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: starting fresh X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 15:17:40 -0000 I am going to try to make a new CD image today and see if that fixes it. On Dec 9, 2003, at 8:20 AM, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > David Leimbach writes: >> >> can't load 'kernel' > > After seting currdev to the CD, what happens if you do things like > "ls" ? > > Drew > > > > From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 9 10:24:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EB4416A4CE for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:24:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F96E43D2A for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:24:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB9IODRm029498 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:24:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id hB9IODSl029497 for freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:24:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:24:12 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20031209182412.GA29477@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.2-BETA Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Subject: Re: HFS+ on FreeBSD (was Re: 5.1-RELEASE-p11 - ACPI panic during shutdown, USB panic w/ USB2 HD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 18:24:20 -0000 On Sun, 7 Dec 2003, Nick Sayer wrote: > On Dec 7, 2003, at 1:35 PM, Doug White wrote: > > Can't help you on the ehci/umass issue though. I have a USB disk that > > will at least read ok, but since its HFS+ I can't mount it. > > Oh, well, I have that one licked. :-) > > You need to add 'options GEOM_APPLE' to your kernel, then you can go > get the HFS+ support from http://people.freebsd.org/~yar/hfs/ . Many > props to yar for his work. Shouldn't the HFS+ support get committed? It seems it would be very useful to FreeBDS/PowerPC users. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 9 10:45:28 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECFC716A4CE; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:45:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns1.xcllnt.net (209-128-86-226.BAYAREA.NET [209.128.86.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B057E43D2D; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:45:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcel@xcllnt.net) Received: from dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net [192.168.4.201]) by ns1.xcllnt.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB9IjROE019401; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:45:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcel@piii.pn.xcllnt.net) Received: from dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) hB9IjRCX007524; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:45:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcel@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net) Received: (from marcel@localhost) by dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id hB9IjRDo007523; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:45:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcel) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:45:27 -0800 From: Marcel Moolenaar To: David Leimbach Message-ID: <20031209184527.GA7466@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> References: <39194E04-29D4-11D8-9B51-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> <3FD51C6A.2020508@freebsd.org> <6E43B9CE-29F3-11D8-BE9A-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> <3FD59D94.8040204@freebsd.org> <07DEDA0A-2A52-11D8-B092-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <07DEDA0A-2A52-11D8-B092-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1i cc: Peter Grehan cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: starting fresh X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 18:45:29 -0000 On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 08:14:41AM -0600, David Leimbach wrote: > > > From the OpenFirmware prompt, can you do a directory of /boot/kernel/ > >? > >i.e. > > > >0 > dir cd:,\boot\kernel\ > >3447548 12/ 9/ 3 19: 4:40 kernel ok > > > > I get > 57344 10/24/ 3 8:58:33 kernel > 3447548 10/24/ 3 9: 3:26 kernel.syscons ok > 0 > I'm kind of falling right in the middle of this, so I may restate the obvious: A 57K kernel can't be right. Try loading kernel.syscons instead of kernel. -- Marcel Moolenaar USPA: A-39004 marcel@xcllnt.net From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 9 11:43:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EC6E16A4CE; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:43:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (A17-250-248-45.apple.com [17.250.248.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9517943D35; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:43:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from leimy2k@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin08-en2 [10.13.10.153]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id hB9JhSAD020746; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:43:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (adsl-156-166-212.jan.bellsouth.net [66.156.166.212]) (authenticated bits=0)hB9JhHxO013735; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:43:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20031209184527.GA7466@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> References: <39194E04-29D4-11D8-9B51-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> <3FD51C6A.2020508@freebsd.org> <6E43B9CE-29F3-11D8-BE9A-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> <3FD59D94.8040204@freebsd.org> <07DEDA0A-2A52-11D8-B092-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> <20031209184527.GA7466@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v606) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David Leimbach Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:43:14 -0600 To: Marcel Moolenaar X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) cc: Peter Grehan cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: starting fresh X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 19:43:20 -0000 On Dec 9, 2003, at 12:45 PM, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 08:14:41AM -0600, David Leimbach wrote: >> >>> From the OpenFirmware prompt, can you do a directory of /boot/kernel/ >>> ? >>> i.e. >>> >>> 0 > dir cd:,\boot\kernel\ >>> 3447548 12/ 9/ 3 19: 4:40 kernel ok >>> >> >> I get >> 57344 10/24/ 3 8:58:33 kernel >> 3447548 10/24/ 3 9: 3:26 kernel.syscons ok >> 0 > > > I'm kind of falling right in the middle of this, so I may restate the > obvious: > > A 57K kernel can't be right. Try loading kernel.syscons instead > of kernel. Sure... at one point I had used kernel.syscons and overwritten kernel but that also wouldn't boot. I am pretty sure that I need to use mkisofs instead of hdiutil from apple... I won't have time to check this until after I am done working my day job. > > -- > Marcel Moolenaar USPA: A-39004 marcel@xcllnt.net From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 9 12:41:50 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0727D16A4CE; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:41:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from moof.catpipe.net (moof.catpipe.net [195.249.214.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 205A443D21; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:41:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from regnauld@moof.catpipe.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.catpipe.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5670E7063F; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 21:41:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from moof.catpipe.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (moof.catpipe.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 34540-07; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 21:41:45 +0100 (CET) Received: by moof.catpipe.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 19FF570601; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 21:41:45 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 21:41:45 +0100 From: Phil Regnauld To: David O'Brien Message-ID: <20031209204144.GA34682@moof.catpipe.net> References: <20031209182412.GA29477@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031209182412.GA29477@dragon.nuxi.com> X-message-flag: Outlook: spreading viruses since 1997! http://www.rodos.net/outlook/ X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE i386 Organization: catpipe Systems ApS User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at catpipe.net cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HFS+ on FreeBSD (was Re: 5.1-RELEASE-p11 - ACPI panic during shutdown, USB panic w/ USB2 HD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 20:41:50 -0000 David O'Brien (obrien) writes: > Shouldn't the HFS+ support get committed? It seems it would be very > useful to FreeBDS/PowerPC users. It's a bit of a hack to get it compiled under 5.2-B. It was no problem for 5.1-CURRENT until this summer (roughly). From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 9 17:52:12 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F64316A4CE; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 17:52:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4BD143D09; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 17:52:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from leimy2k@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin07-en2 [10.13.10.152]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.12.6/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id hBA1qAZB026241; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 17:52:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (adsl-156-166-212.jan.bellsouth.net [66.156.166.212]) (authenticated bits=0)hBA1q9hc016278; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 17:52:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <39194E04-29D4-11D8-9B51-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> <3FD51C6A.2020508@freebsd.org> <6E43B9CE-29F3-11D8-BE9A-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> <3FD59D94.8040204@freebsd.org> <07DEDA0A-2A52-11D8-B092-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> <20031209184527.GA7466@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v606) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <7518E141-2AB3-11D8-B092-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David Leimbach Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 19:52:05 -0600 To: David Leimbach X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org cc: Peter Grehan cc: Marcel Moolenaar Subject: Re: starting fresh X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 01:52:12 -0000 On Dec 9, 2003, at 1:43 PM, David Leimbach wrote: > > On Dec 9, 2003, at 12:45 PM, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > >> On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 08:14:41AM -0600, David Leimbach wrote: >>> >>>> From the OpenFirmware prompt, can you do a directory of >>>> /boot/kernel/ >>>> ? >>>> i.e. >>>> >>>> 0 > dir cd:,\boot\kernel\ >>>> 3447548 12/ 9/ 3 19: 4:40 kernel ok >>>> >>> >>> I get >>> 57344 10/24/ 3 8:58:33 kernel >>> 3447548 10/24/ 3 9: 3:26 kernel.syscons ok >>> 0 > >> >> I'm kind of falling right in the middle of this, so I may restate the >> obvious: >> >> A 57K kernel can't be right. Try loading kernel.syscons instead >> of kernel. > > Sure... at one point I had used kernel.syscons and overwritten kernel > but > that also wouldn't boot. > > I am pretty sure that I need to use mkisofs instead of hdiutil from > apple... I won't > have time to check this until after I am done working my day job. Ok... So I tried mkisofs on DragonFly and now I have an even more useless CD image :). I used mkisofs -o bootimage.iso -hfs -part -l -J -r -L I don't know why that doesn't work... I was closer to success with hdiutil's makehybrid command. Oh well. I almost had it working on a netboot at one point via TFTP but I can't mess with my network to do that right now. I wonder if it would boot from an iPod :) Dave > >> >> -- >> Marcel Moolenaar USPA: A-39004 marcel@xcllnt.net > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 9 18:02:33 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36CED16A4D5; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 18:02:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (A17-250-248-88.apple.com [17.250.248.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BDDE43D2C; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 18:02:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from leimy2k@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin08-en2 [10.13.10.153]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id hBA22UK5016759; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 18:02:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (adsl-156-166-212.jan.bellsouth.net [66.156.166.212]) (authenticated bits=0)hBA22TxO011385; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 18:02:30 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <7518E141-2AB3-11D8-B092-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> References: <39194E04-29D4-11D8-9B51-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> <3FD51C6A.2020508@freebsd.org> <6E43B9CE-29F3-11D8-BE9A-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> <3FD59D94.8040204@freebsd.org> <07DEDA0A-2A52-11D8-B092-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> <20031209184527.GA7466@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <7518E141-2AB3-11D8-B092-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v606) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David Leimbach Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 20:02:27 -0600 To: David Leimbach X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org cc: Peter Grehan cc: Marcel Moolenaar Subject: Re: starting fresh X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 02:02:33 -0000 Spoke a little too soon: I got it to boot... Don't know why or how... just killed a lot of CD bearing trees in the process. Dave From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 9 19:01:26 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8D0316A4CE; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 19:01:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.87]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8F3343D21; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 19:01:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from leimy2k@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin08-en2 [10.13.10.153]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id hBA31PMH026410; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 19:01:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (adsl-156-166-212.jan.bellsouth.net [66.156.166.212]) (authenticated bits=0)hBA31OxO002403; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 19:01:24 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <39194E04-29D4-11D8-9B51-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> <3FD51C6A.2020508@freebsd.org> <6E43B9CE-29F3-11D8-BE9A-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> <3FD59D94.8040204@freebsd.org> <07DEDA0A-2A52-11D8-B092-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> <20031209184527.GA7466@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <7518E141-2AB3-11D8-B092-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v606) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <228CA78C-2ABD-11D8-B092-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David Leimbach Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 21:01:22 -0600 To: David Leimbach X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org cc: Peter Grehan cc: Marcel Moolenaar Subject: Re: starting fresh X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 03:01:27 -0000 On Dec 9, 2003, at 8:02 PM, David Leimbach wrote: > Spoke a little too soon: > > I got it to boot... Don't know why or how... just killed a lot of CD > bearing trees in the > process. Ok... now it won't boot from the hard disk into single user mode... :P I say boot -s in the loader and then ufs:hd0s11 [my setup] and it boots multi-user and I don't have the root password. :P > > Dave > From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 9 19:07:47 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C09816A4CE for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 19:07:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from liberty.onthenet.com.au (liberty.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6986043D29 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 19:07:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from freebsd.org (CPE-30-201.dsl.onthenet.net [203.144.30.201]) hBA37hZG054920; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:07:43 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <3FD68E24.6020706@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:08:20 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030524 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Leimbach References: <39194E04-29D4-11D8-9B51-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> <3FD51C6A.2020508@freebsd.org> <6E43B9CE-29F3-11D8-BE9A-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> <3FD59D94.8040204@freebsd.org> <07DEDA0A-2A52-11D8-B092-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> <20031209184527.GA7466@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <7518E141-2AB3-11D8-B092-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> <228CA78C-2ABD-11D8-B092-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <228CA78C-2ABD-11D8-B092-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: starting fresh X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 03:07:47 -0000 Hi Dave, > Ok... now it won't boot from the hard disk into single user mode... :P > > I say boot -s in the loader and then ufs:hd0s11 [my setup] and it boots > multi-user and I don't have the > root password. :P I think there's a binary mis-match in boot flags between the new loader and the old syscons kernel. The workaround is to set the boot_single variable at the loader prompt before booting: OK set boot_single=yes later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 9 19:12:01 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A3AD16A4CE for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 19:12:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from liberty.onthenet.com.au (liberty.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C73E043D28 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 19:11:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from freebsd.org (CPE-30-201.dsl.onthenet.net [203.144.30.201]) hBA3BwZG054930; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:11:59 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <3FD68F23.4090701@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:12:35 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030524 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Leimbach References: <39194E04-29D4-11D8-9B51-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> <3FD51C6A.2020508@freebsd.org> <6E43B9CE-29F3-11D8-BE9A-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> <3FD59D94.8040204@freebsd.org> <07DEDA0A-2A52-11D8-B092-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> <20031209184527.GA7466@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <7518E141-2AB3-11D8-B092-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <7518E141-2AB3-11D8-B092-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: starting fresh X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 03:12:01 -0000 Hi Dave, > I wonder if it would boot from an iPod :) It would, but you'd have to re-partition your iPod drive which I think will blow away the iPod firmware and turn it into a brick :-( Now, if I can get the HFS+ loader module completed, and with the existing HFS+ kernel module, it might be possible to put something together. An interesting possibility might be an 'overlay' install on top of OSX where you wouldn't need to re-partition the hard drive. later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 9 19:13:36 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAD7A16A4CE; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 19:13:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (A17-250-248-87.apple.com [17.250.248.87]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5CA343D2A; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 19:13:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from leimy2k@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin08-en2 [10.13.10.153]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id hBA3DZMH001084; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 19:13:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (adsl-156-166-212.jan.bellsouth.net [66.156.166.212]) (authenticated bits=0)hBA3DYxO006667; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 19:13:35 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <3FD68E24.6020706@freebsd.org> References: <39194E04-29D4-11D8-9B51-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> <3FD51C6A.2020508@freebsd.org> <6E43B9CE-29F3-11D8-BE9A-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> <3FD59D94.8040204@freebsd.org> <07DEDA0A-2A52-11D8-B092-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> <20031209184527.GA7466@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <7518E141-2AB3-11D8-B092-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> <228CA78C-2ABD-11D8-B092-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> <3FD68E24.6020706@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v606) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David Leimbach Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 21:13:32 -0600 To: Peter Grehan X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: starting fresh X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 03:13:37 -0000 On Dec 9, 2003, at 9:08 PM, Peter Grehan wrote: > Hi Dave, > >> Ok... now it won't boot from the hard disk into single user mode... :P >> I say boot -s in the loader and then ufs:hd0s11 [my setup] and it >> boots multi-user and I don't have the >> root password. :P > > I think there's a binary mis-match in boot flags between the > new loader and the old syscons kernel. > > The workaround is to set the boot_single variable at the loader > prompt before booting: > > OK set boot_single=yes Ah... that nailed it.. :) > > later, > > Peter. > From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 9 19:17:27 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CA5B16A4CE; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 19:17:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from liberty.onthenet.com.au (liberty.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5E8D43D28; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 19:17:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from freebsd.org (CPE-30-201.dsl.onthenet.net [203.144.30.201]) hBA3HOZG054946; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:17:24 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <3FD69069.5080505@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:18:01 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030524 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <20031209182412.GA29477@dragon.nuxi.com> In-Reply-To: <20031209182412.GA29477@dragon.nuxi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HFS+ on FreeBSD (was Re: 5.1-RELEASE-p11 - ACPI panic during shutdown, USB panic w/ USB2 HD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 03:17:27 -0000 > Shouldn't the HFS+ support get committed? It seems it would be very > useful to FreeBDS/PowerPC users. Does anyone know if APSL-licensed code can go into the tree ? Or does it go into a side dir ala sys/gnu ? later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 10 08:44:09 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3715316A4CE for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:44:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail6.speakeasy.net (mail6.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91A0A43D30 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:44:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 22721 invoked from network); 10 Dec 2003 16:44:02 -0000 Received: from dsl027-160-063.atl1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender ) encrypted SMTP for ; 10 Dec 2003 16:44:02 -0000 Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (gw1.twc.weather.com [216.133.140.1]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBAGhxnd005504; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:43:59 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.4 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3FD69069.5080505@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:44:00 -0500 (EST) From: John Baldwin To: Peter Grehan , rwatson@FreeBSD.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HFS+ on FreeBSD (was Re: 5.1-RELEASE-p11 - ACPI panic during shutdown, USB panic w/ USB2 HD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:44:09 -0000 On 10-Dec-2003 Peter Grehan wrote: >> Shouldn't the HFS+ support get committed? It seems it would be very >> useful to FreeBDS/PowerPC users. > > Does anyone know if APSL-licensed code can go into the tree ? > Or does it go into a side dir ala sys/gnu ? Core just had a discussion on this. rwatson@ is the person to ask for sure, but I believe the result is to treat APSL code like GNU code, meaning likely, yes, it will need a sys/apsl/ tree that it lives under or some such. I would talk to rwatson@ to make sure. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 10 21:42:33 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83D2916A4CE for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:42:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (A17-250-248-83.apple.com [17.250.248.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7152643D29 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:42:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joeldiaz@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin08-en2 [10.13.10.153]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.12.6/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id hBB5kvcq021186 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:46:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.9] (adsl-81-1-225.mia.bellsouth.net [65.81.1.225]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin08/MantshX 3.0) with ESMTP id hBB5gVxO026789 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:42:31 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v606) In-Reply-To: <7518E141-2AB3-11D8-B092-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> References: <39194E04-29D4-11D8-9B51-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> <3FD51C6A.2020508@freebsd.org> <6E43B9CE-29F3-11D8-BE9A-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> <3FD59D94.8040204@freebsd.org> <07DEDA0A-2A52-11D8-B092-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> <20031209184527.GA7466@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <7518E141-2AB3-11D8-B092-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Joel Diaz Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 00:42:17 -0500 To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) Subject: Re: starting fresh X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 05:42:33 -0000 On Dec 9, 2003, at 8:52 PM, David Leimbach wrote: > > On Dec 9, 2003, at 1:43 PM, David Leimbach wrote: > > I wonder if it would boot from an iPod :) > > Dave I've been running CURRENT off of my iPod for a few weeks (the HD on my laptop has taken a permanent vacation on me), and your comment made me wonder about the status of my iPod. Well, I repartitioned it using Disk Utility, and ran the iPod Software 1.3.1 Updater and choose 'Restore' and it restores the iPod back to factory settings. I have a first generation iPod and have no idea if this would also work for the new slimmer iPods. Joel > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 11 11:57:46 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3B8216A4CE for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:57:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from selene.hmdnsgroup.com (selene.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.134.231]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C13B243D1F for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:57:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ly5t5@allthingscomputed.com) Received: from dialup-63.210.79.94.dial1.atlanta1.level3.net ([63.210.79.94]) by selene.hmdnsgroup.com with asmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AUWwJ-0006VN-AV for freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 14:57:35 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v606) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <46789A62-2C14-11D8-890E-000A95A0485E@allthingscomputed.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: FreeBSD PowerPC From: Barry Hawkins Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 14:57:40 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - selene.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - allthingscomputed.com Subject: FreeBSD on an nVidia-based PowerBook G4 17" 1GHz X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 19:57:46 -0000 List, Hello. I have used FreeBSD on a x86 box I have at home and have been very pleased with it. My primary machine is a 17" PowerBook G4 1GHz - the one with the nVidia card. I have just spent the better part of my time away from work for two weeks trying to get a decent Debian installation on my PowerBook only to learn that the particular hardware components of this laptop don't bear much hope for running it. When I saw the traffic start to pick up on this list, I thought I would ask about trying FreeBSD on my PowerBook. I must say that the initial install sounds daunting, but if I would be able to contribute to the effort by trying installs and documenting results or anything, I'd love to help out. On PCs I have usually installed from ISOs that I get with my subscription at FreeBSD mall. I will list the items about this particular PowerBook model that are problematic for Debian, or more specifically, the Ben H. Linux kernel, and if anyone sees something that shouts "waste of time", please let me know. The Problem Issues with a 1GHz 17" PowerBook G4 -The 100MHz bus -The 1MB L3 cache -The nVidia GeForce Go 440 card -The Airport Extreme wireless card (Broadcom chipset) -The USB software modem Thanks in advance for your time. I noticed that there was a binary FreeBSD driver on nVidia's website for my particular card. That shocked me. Is there some reason that nVidia would come up with a FreeBSD binary and not a Linux one? Regards, -- Barry C. Hawkins All Things Computed site: www.allthingscomputed.com weblog: www.yepthatsme.com From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 11 12:25:23 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3200916A4CE for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:25:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from gir.theapt.org (deimos.theapt.org [208.201.244.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C79743D31 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:25:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@theapt.org) Received: by gir.theapt.org (Postfix, from userid 0) id 55C8237003; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:25:18 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:25:18 -0800 From: Peter Hessler To: Barry Hawkins Message-ID: <20031211202518.GA3140@gir.theapt.org> References: <46789A62-2C14-11D8-890E-000A95A0485E@allthingscomputed.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <46789A62-2C14-11D8-890E-000A95A0485E@allthingscomputed.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: FreeBSD PowerPC Subject: Re: FreeBSD on an nVidia-based PowerBook G4 17" 1GHz X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 20:25:23 -0000 On Thu, Dec 11, 2003 at 02:57:40PM -0500, Barry Hawkins wrote: : :The Problem Issues with a 1GHz 17" PowerBook G4 :-The 100MHz bus :-The 1MB L3 cache :-The nVidia GeForce Go 440 card The XFree86 driver in 4.4 should be quite improved over the 4.3 one. (4.4 is "scheduled" to be released New Years Eve, 2003) :-The Airport Extreme wireless card (Broadcom chipset) I don't think you'll be seeing a driver for this soon. Broadcom isn't releasing any documentation for this driver, and I'm not sure if the will write binary-only drivers for */PPC. (I hope for full documentation, but I'll be realistic, and not expect it :( ) :-The USB software modem : Similar issue to the Airport Extreme. No docs for it, and it is unlikely a binary driver for */PPC will be relased. If anyone is able to get documentation for the Airport Extreme, the USB soft-modem, or the on board sound, please post to this list. I know people in the OpenBSD project who are working on drivers for these, but w/o docs, it is slow going. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 11 21:48:33 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D46B16A4CE for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 21:48:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from liberty.onthenet.com.au (liberty.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0FA443D32 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 21:48:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from freebsd.org (CPE-30-201.dsl.onthenet.net [203.144.30.201]) hBC5mMZG063374; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:48:23 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <3FD956C9.1040002@freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:48:57 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030524 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Barry Hawkins References: <46789A62-2C14-11D8-890E-000A95A0485E@allthingscomputed.com> In-Reply-To: <46789A62-2C14-11D8-890E-000A95A0485E@allthingscomputed.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD PowerPC Subject: Re: FreeBSD on an nVidia-based PowerBook G4 17" 1GHz X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 05:48:33 -0000 Hi Barry, > I will list the items about this particular PowerBook model that are > problematic for Debian, or more specifically, the Ben H. Linux kernel, > and if anyone sees something that shouts "waste of time", please let me > know. Ben H is a pretty sharp guy, I doubt very much that we'd have solved problems that he hasn't. > The Problem Issues with a 1GHz 17" PowerBook G4 > -The 100MHz bus > -The 1MB L3 cache Not sure why these would be a problem: perhaps some tricky timing issues. > -The nVidia GeForce Go 440 card > -The Airport Extreme wireless card (Broadcom chipset) > -The USB software modem No go for any of these, except as mentioned by Peter Hessler that XFree will support the NVidia card soon. But, FreeBSD/PPC doesn't have XFree yet, hopefully soon. > Thanks in advance for your time. I noticed that there was a binary > FreeBSD driver on nVidia's website for my particular card. That shocked > me. Is there some reason that nVidia would come up with a FreeBSD > binary and not a Linux one? The FreeBSD/i386 Nvidia driver is relatively recent: there's no PPC one. A Linux/i386 driver has been available from Nvidia for a long time. later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 12 06:27:38 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85C6F16A4CE; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 06:27:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from selene.hmdnsgroup.com (selene.hmdnsgroup.com [63.247.134.231]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FBF743D1F; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 06:27:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ly5t5@allthingscomputed.com) Received: from dialup-67.30.254.17.dial1.atlanta1.level3.net ([67.30.254.17]) by selene.hmdnsgroup.com with asmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AUoGQ-0007Xb-HF; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:27:31 -0500 In-Reply-To: <3FD956C9.1040002@freebsd.org> References: <46789A62-2C14-11D8-890E-000A95A0485E@allthingscomputed.com> <3FD956C9.1040002@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v606) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <51187461-2CAF-11D8-8C7F-000A95A0485E@allthingscomputed.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Barry Hawkins Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:27:29 -0500 To: Peter Grehan X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - selene.hmdnsgroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - allthingscomputed.com cc: FreeBSD PowerPC Subject: Re: FreeBSD on an nVidia-based PowerBook G4 17" 1GHz X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:27:38 -0000 On Dec 12, 2003, at 12:48 AM, Peter Grehan wrote: > Hi Barry, > >> I will list the items about this particular PowerBook model that >> are problematic for Debian, or more specifically, the Ben H. Linux >> kernel, and if anyone sees something that shouts "waste of time", >> please let me know. > > Ben H is a pretty sharp guy, I doubt very much that we'd have > solved problems that he hasn't. > >> The Problem Issues with a 1GHz 17" PowerBook G4 >> -The 100MHz bus >> -The 1MB L3 cache > > Not sure why these would be a problem: perhaps some tricky timing > issues. > >> -The nVidia GeForce Go 440 card >> -The Airport Extreme wireless card (Broadcom chipset) >> -The USB software modem > > No go for any of these, except as mentioned by Peter Hessler that > XFree will support the NVidia card soon. But, FreeBSD/PPC doesn't > have XFree yet, hopefully soon. > >> Thanks in advance for your time. I noticed that there was a >> binary FreeBSD driver on nVidia's website for my particular card. >> That shocked me. Is there some reason that nVidia would come up with >> a FreeBSD binary and not a Linux one? > > The FreeBSD/i386 Nvidia driver is relatively recent: there's no PPC > one. A Linux/i386 driver has been available from Nvidia for a long > time. > > later, > > Peter. > Peter, Yeah, Ben is great. He amazes me. He actually gave me the tip to pass the "nol3" directive to the kernel to get it to even boot up. He mentioned that the L3 cache was problematic. Funny thing is that if you go look at the current model for the 17", they have gone back to the 512K SRAM L2 cache. This unit has eBay written all over it more and more with each passing day. Sorry for not checking that the FreeBSD driver was i386 only; I should have known. :^) Regards, -- Barry C. Hawkins All Things Computed site: www.allthingscomputed.com weblog: www.yepthatsme.com From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 12 09:31:27 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39C9416A4CE for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:31:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from flamingo.mail.pas.earthlink.net (flamingo.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99D7F43D31 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:31:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from webmaster@machowto.com) Received: from h-68-167-189-170.dnvtco56.covad.net ([68.167.189.170] helo=[192.168.0.4]) by flamingo.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AUr8Q-0007jc-00 for freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:31:26 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 10:31:25 -0700 From: "David S. Besade" To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: Status of the FreeBSD/PPC Project? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:31:27 -0000 Hello, I have been following the project for a bit now and I was wondering what the current status is as the project page hasn't been updated in ages. Thanks Dave From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 12 09:55:41 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2A1516A4CE for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:55:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (A17-250-248-46.apple.com [17.250.248.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FCEF43D1D for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:55:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from leimy2k@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin08-en2 [10.13.10.153]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.12.6/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id hBCHtdZB019596; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:55:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (adsl-81-244-236.jan.bellsouth.net [65.81.244.236]) (authenticated bits=0)hBCHtcA6006057; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:55:39 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v609) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <638FDB44-2CCC-11D8-890C-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David Leimbach Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:55:36 -0600 To: "David S. Besade" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.609) cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Status of the FreeBSD/PPC Project? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:55:41 -0000 I've got it in multi-user with networking on my TiBook 667. Syscons works if you have USB :) I think an ADC or whatever the built-in keyboard is called driver would be useful :). I just don't know how to make it happen at this point . other than that I can use the OpenFirmware console and get by as well as plug in an external keyboard. I'd say its all coming along nicely. Dave On Dec 12, 2003, at 11:31 AM, David S. Besade wrote: > Hello, > I have been following the project for a bit now and I was wondering > what the > current status is as the project page hasn't been updated in ages. > > Thanks > Dave > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"