From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 20 03:17:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4A0537B407 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 03:17:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from p6m7g8.com (pcp02835904pcs.hyatsv01.md.comcast.net [68.54.254.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92C0E43F85 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 03:17:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from philip@p6m7g8.com) Received: from p6m7g8.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by p6m7g8.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h3K6GO6d038513; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 06:16:24 GMT (envelope-from philip@p6m7g8.com) Received: (from philip@localhost) by p6m7g8.com (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h3K6GOor038510; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 06:16:24 GMT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: "Philip M. Gollucci" Organization: P6M7G8 Consulting To: "Sean O'Neill" Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 06:16:23 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030418232652.0377f790@pop.swbell.yahoo.com> <5.2.0.9.0.20030419100841.037b4198@pop.swbell.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030419100841.037b4198@pop.swbell.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200304200616.23965.philip@p6m7g8.net> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with compiling Apache2 on FreeBSD 4.8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 10:17:21 -0000 Sorry, I'm a little late. The below will give you mod_so in both APACHE_2_0_BRANCH and HEAD (2.1-de= v) I believe in the 2.x series the configure script has been enhanced to=20 automatically turn on mod_so if you request any dynamically loaded module= s. On Saturday 19 April 2003 15:13, Sean O'Neill wrote: > --enable-mods-shared=3Dall --=20 END -------------------------------------------------------------------------= -----=20 Philip M. Gollucci philip@p6m7g8.com 301.474.9598 eJournalPress 5508 Green Tree Rd. Bethesda, MD 20817 DBA, System Admin & Perl Programmer URL : http://www.ejournalpress.com Resume : http://p6m7g8.net/Resume/resume.shtml From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 20 03:42:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6789237B401 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 03:42:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blueyonder.co.uk (pcow058o.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.53.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3820443FBD for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 03:42:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jfm@blueyonder.co.uk) Received: from lexx ([62.31.198.203]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Sun, 20 Apr 2003 11:42:02 +0100 From: John Murphy To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 11:41:59 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.9/32.560 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: TAI to UTC conversion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jfm@blueyonder.co.uk List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 10:42:04 -0000 I need to correlate entries in dnscache logs with ipf.log. The former uses some kind of hexadecimal atomic time like: @400000003e9d8179261ab8fc So how can I convert this to something more useful? Thanks John. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 20 03:49:02 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3665237B401 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 03:49:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from falcon.midgard.homeip.net (h76n3fls20o913.telia.com [213.67.148.76]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9CD2443FAF for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 03:48:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ertr1013@student.uu.se) Received: (qmail 67917 invoked by uid 1001); 20 Apr 2003 10:48:55 -0000 Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 12:48:55 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson To: John Murphy Message-ID: <20030420104855.GA67858@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: John Murphy , questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: TAI to UTC conversion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 10:49:02 -0000 On Sun, Apr 20, 2003 at 11:41:59AM +0100, John Murphy wrote: > I need to correlate entries in dnscache logs with ipf.log. > The former uses some kind of hexadecimal atomic time like: > > @400000003e9d8179261ab8fc > > So how can I convert this to something more useful? By using tai64nlocal(8) which is part of sysutils/daemontools which you already should have installed as a dependency of djbdns. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 20 03:54:19 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70E4D37B401 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 03:54:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netgecko.info (netgecko.info [217.160.92.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B357E43FBD for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 03:54:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex.kiesel@document-root.de) Received: from [192.168.1.31] (p508B24C3.dip.t-dialin.net [80.139.36.195]) by netgecko.info (Postfix) with ESMTP id 976E887FF6; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 12:56:03 +0200 (CEST) From: Alex Kiesel To: Len Conrad In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030417063000.025b4220@mail.go2france.com> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030417063000.025b4220@mail.go2france.com> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1050836054.42322.11.camel@detention.home.ahk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.4 Date: 20 Apr 2003 12:54:14 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Secure HTTP access to a list archive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 10:54:19 -0000 On Thu, 2003-04-17 at 13:34, Len Conrad wrote: > The requirement is for a web server providing secure, authenticated HTTP > access to a secured, closed list archive. > > We are looking at FreeBSD, Apache, Ecartis + mhonarc + postfix, plus some > web server language to implement the access. > > Any recommendations, how-to's, approaches, or available solutions? Use a combination of HTTPS (www/apache-modssl) and .htaccess directory access control. Greets, -Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 20 05:49:00 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06D5E37B401 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 05:49:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp-out.comcast.net (smtp-out.comcast.net [24.153.64.116]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A66143FA3 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 05:48:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from apeiron@comcast.net) Received: from [192.168.0.10] (pcp01380957pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net [68.81.162.166]) by mtaout01.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.12 (built Feb 13 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HDN00GQ57K6P5@mtaout01.icomcast.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 08:48:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 08:48:07 -0400 From: Christopher Nehren To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <1050842887.2369.9.camel@prophecy.dyndns.org> Organization: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.4 Content-type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-fgJDBo0KnbyuU4ViHK3A"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Subject: Same old sendmail "loops back to me", not solved with FAQ, etc. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 12:49:00 -0000 --=-fgJDBo0KnbyuU4ViHK3A Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, I've read the FAQ. Yes, I've searched numerous newsgroups on http://marc.theaimsgroup.com . Yes, I've put it in the class w in all of the half-dozen FreeBSD sendmail configuration files (which aren't even mentioned in the Handbook, something I think is a bit odd). Yes, I've put it in the /etc/mail/local-host-names file. What could possibly be the problem? Some version information: 220 prophecy.dyndns.org ESMTP Sendmail 8.12.6p2/8.12.6; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 08:41:17 -0400 (EDT) FreeBSD prophecy.dyndns.org 5.0-RELEASE-p7 FreeBSD 5.0-RELEASE-p7 #0: Thu Apr 3 22:18:32 EST 2003 root@prophecy.dyndns.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/PROPHECY i386 --=-fgJDBo0KnbyuU4ViHK3A Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQA+opcHUdqurN0fljsRAgWvAKCVA2ZgQXNbVh8Bvmq/LrP27GsjVACeOjlD 5LNp3h4YB5lHrznZaoeJMQU= =4fc8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-fgJDBo0KnbyuU4ViHK3A-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 20 05:57:50 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E98D37B401 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 05:57:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asteroids.cybercomm.nl (arkanoid.scarlet-internet.nl [213.204.195.164]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DDF9343FA3 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 05:57:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) Received: (qmail-ldap/ctrl 16180 invoked from network); 20 Apr 2003 12:57:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO webmail.dds.nl) ([213.196.1.125]) (envelope-sender )SMTP for ; 20 Apr 2003 12:57:47 -0000 Received: by webmail.dds.nl (Postfix, from userid 33) id EFC223FA3; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 14:57:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 213.10.151.186 ( [213.10.151.186]) as user akruijff@imap.dds.nl by webmail.dds.nl with HTTP; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 14:57:04 +0200 Message-ID: <1050843424.3ea29920de7d1@webmail.dds.nl> Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 14:57:04 +0200 From: Alex To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1 Subject: nis losing problemen X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-reply@akruijff.dds.nl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 12:57:50 -0000 Hi, I have a problem with logging in with nis user names, but only on the nis server. The nis clients, which don't have any server parts, can login. I'm having trouble locating the problem and wounder if anyone else have a idee. The problem proberbly exist for some because the use of a installed ssh-key, before i found out. I've folowed the chapter handbook about setting up nis . And qoogled to find earlier give solutions. The search wan't succesfull. The rc.conf of the server hold the folowing lines: portmap_enable="YES" nisdomainname="nisdomain" nis_server_enable="YES" nis_yppasswdd_enable="YES" nis_client_enable="YES" nis_client_flags="-S nisdomain,intranet" And the folowing command give the folowing out put: # domainname nisdomain # ypwhich Intranet.lan # ping Intranet.lan PING intranet.lan (192.168.31.1): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 192.168.31.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=0.161 ms (Which is the ip adres of the nis server) # ypserver -d (while trying to login from the nis server) This produce a large amound of data, which shows that the record needed is given by the server. The frase "queue overvlow -- realeasing last slot" comes along when i thy to login. The login says sory. /var/log/message only indicates the login failed. -- Tanks, in advance Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 20 06:05:51 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A6BE37B401 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 06:05:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from peedub.jennejohn.org (p213.54.231.183.tisdip.tiscali.de [213.54.231.183]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA66843FE3 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 06:05:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from garyj@jennejohn.org) Received: from peedub.jennejohn.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by peedub.jennejohn.org (8.12.9/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h3KD5dfb038726; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 15:05:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from garyj@peedub.jennejohn.org) Message-Id: <200304201305.h3KD5dfb038726@peedub.jennejohn.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.6.3 04/04/2003 with nmh-1.0.3 To: Dmitry Sivachenko In-Reply-To: Message from Dmitry Sivachenko <20030419100736.GA62154@fling-wing.demos.su> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 15:05:39 +0200 From: Gary Jennejohn cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: debugging kernel with remote gdb X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 13:05:51 -0000 Dmitry Sivachenko writes: > Well, I built gdb to understand i386-freebsd target (using --target > option). The problem is that it seems stock gdb does not > understand '-k' option (for kernel debugging). > The -k flag is a FreeBSD extension. --- Gary Jennejohn / garyj@jennejohn.org gj@freebsd.org gj@denx.de From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 20 06:32:33 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E08D437B401 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 06:32:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.munk.nu (213-152-51-194.dsl.eclipse.net.uk [213.152.51.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9959B43F3F for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 06:32:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from munk@users.munk.nu) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=users.munk.nu ident=munk) by mail.munk.nu with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 197Ewq-000IUV-V3; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 14:33:36 +0100 Received: (from munk@localhost) by users.munk.nu (8.12.9/8.12.8/Submit) id h3KDXZWX071082; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 14:33:35 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 14:33:35 +0100 From: Jez Hancock To: Christopher Nehren Message-ID: <20030420133335.GB70273@users.munk.nu> Mail-Followup-To: Christopher Nehren , FreeBSD questions List References: <1050842887.2369.9.camel@prophecy.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1050842887.2369.9.camel@prophecy.dyndns.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: FreeBSD questions List Subject: Re: Same old sendmail "loops back to me", not solved with FAQ, etc. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 13:32:34 -0000 Hi, Firstly have you tried setting up an MX record for prophecy.dyndns.org so it points to your latest IP addr each time you reconnect? In general regarding the whole freebsd sendmail gubbins... On Sun, Apr 20, 2003 at 08:48:07AM -0400, Christopher Nehren wrote: > Yes, I've read the FAQ. Yes, I've searched numerous newsgroups on > http://marc.theaimsgroup.com . Yes, I've put it in the class w in all of > the half-dozen FreeBSD sendmail configuration files (which aren't even > mentioned in the Handbook, something I think is a bit odd). Yes, I've > put it in the /etc/mail/local-host-names file. What could possibly be > the problem? > > Some version information: > > 220 prophecy.dyndns.org ESMTP Sendmail 8.12.6p2/8.12.6; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 > 08:41:17 -0400 (EDT) > > FreeBSD prophecy.dyndns.org 5.0-RELEASE-p7 FreeBSD 5.0-RELEASE-p7 #0: > Thu Apr 3 22:18:32 EST 2003 > root@prophecy.dyndns.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/PROPHECY i386 Try and stay clear of changing the sendmail.cf files directly. Instead do this: cd /etc/mail/ cp freebsd.mc prophecy.dyndns.org.mc (Make all changes to this file from now on and when you've made a change to it at any time, make sure to rebuild a new .cf file from it using 'make', see below:). Now check that this line is in /etc/mail/prophecy.dyndns.org.mc: define(`confCW_FILE', `-o /etc/mail/local-host-names') And then: cp /etc/defaults/make.conf /etc/make.conf Edit /etc/make.conf so it includes: SENDMAIL_MC=/etc/mail/prophecy.dyndns.org.mc (this ensures that when you 'make installworld' your config is used) (note you only really have to copy the bit above into the /etc/make.conf file, the file only has effect when you run 'make' in /usr/src afaik) Edit your /etc/local-host-names file so it includes: prophecy.dyndns.org (sounds like you did this already:) cd /etc/mail make all cp prophecy.dyndns.org.cf freebsd.cf make restart The 'make all' line makes the cf file 'prophecy.dyndns.org.cf' from the prophecy.dyndns.org.mc file and also makes any map and aliases dbs if those files have changed at all since the last 'make'. The 'make restart' just restarts the sendmail binaries for the msp (client runner) and mta (the main mail tx agent). For full details see the /etc/mail/Makefile file for info on various targets to make in /etc/mail: # # $FreeBSD: src/etc/mail/Makefile,v 1.9.2.23 2003/02/12 03:57:52 gshapiro Exp $ # # This Makefile provides an easy way to generate the configuration # file and database maps for the sendmail(8) daemon. # # The user-driven targets are: # # all - Build cf, maps and aliases # cf - Build the .cf file from .mc file # maps - Build the feature maps # aliases - Build the sendmail aliases # install - Install the .cf file as /etc/mail/sendmail.cf # # For acting on both the MTA daemon and MSP queue running daemon: # start - Start both the sendmail MTA daemon and MSP queue running # daemon with the flags defined in /etc/defaults/rc.conf or # /etc/rc.conf # stop - Stop both the sendmail MTA daemon and MSP queue running # daemon # restart - Restart both the sendmail MTA daemon and MSP queue running # daemon # # For acting on just the MTA daemon: # start-mta - Start the sendmail MTA daemon with the flags defined in # /etc/defaults/rc.conf or /etc/rc.conf # stop-mta - Stop the sendmail MTA daemon # restart-mta - Restart the sendmail MTA daemon # # For acting on just the MSP queue running daemon: # start-mspq - Start the sendmail MSP queue running daemon with the # flags defined in /etc/defaults/rc.conf or /etc/rc.conf # stop-mspq - Stop the sendmail MSP queue running daemon # restart-mspq - Restart the sendmail MSP queue running daemon # # Calling `make' will generate the updated versions when either the # aliases or one of the map files were changed. # # A `make install` is only necessary after modifying the .mc file. In # this case one would normally also call `make restart' to allow the # running sendmail to pick up the changes as well. # # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # This Makefile uses `.mc' as the default MTA .mc file. This # can be changed by defining SENDMAIL_MC in /etc/make.conf, e.g.: # # SENDMAIL_MC=/etc/mail/myconfig.mc # # If '.mc' does not exist, it is created using 'freebsd.mc' # as a template. # # It also uses 'freebsd.submit.mc' as the default mail submission .mc file. # This can be changed by defining SENDMAIL_SUBMIT_MC in /etc/make.conf, # e.g.: # # SENDMAIL_SUBMIT_MC=/etc/mail/mysubmit.mc # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # # The Makefile knows about the following maps: # access, bitdomain, domaintable, genericstable, mailertable, userdb, # uucpdomain, virtusertable I don't think this is documented as you say and I struggled for ages working it out (I gave up yesterday after 2 years and moved to exim - I learnt more about sendmail in 1 day from just reading the exim docs than I did in 2 years from reading the sendmail docs!). Anyway hope that vaguely helps. Jez From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 20 08:16:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D052237B401 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 08:16:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from elhaz.pair.com (elhaz.pair.com [209.68.1.176]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4775643FDD for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 08:16:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chaos@elhaz.pair.com) Received: (qmail 34395 invoked by uid 3285); 20 Apr 2003 15:16:09 -0000 Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 11:16:09 -0400 From: Chaos Golubitsky To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030420151609.GB25272@glassonion.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Subject: patching a production system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 15:16:11 -0000 Hi all, This is an advice question, so i hope this list is the right place to ask: i am tasked with maintaining a FreeBSD box which is a server for a very small company. (I am a sysadmin, but this is my first real experience with FreeBSD.) I want to be able to keep the box reasonably current on security patches to the os, so it seems to me that i should be tracking freebsd-RELEASE. My question is in two parts: (a) (I think the answer is no, but would love to hear otherwise): Do i have an alternative to maintaining a source tree on this machine? The release engineering notes: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng/article.html mention binary patchkits for the release branch, but i don't think these actually exist. Does anyone know? Conversely, how easy is it to do updates using /stand/sysinstall without changing my system configuration more than needed? The buildworld -> installworld -> mergemaster routine seems convenient and stable, but i don't like doing source compiles on a production machine, and we don't have budget for a spare with similar architecture. (b) Specifically, the machine is currently running 4.6-RELEASE, and i thought i would upgrade it to 4.8-RELEASE and track that, since FreeBSD will test its security patches for longer (right?), so i won't have to upgrade again for awhile. The machine was originally installed using /stand/sysinstall, and not by me. I have tested out the sysinstall -> cvs upgrade -> build -> install process on a spare machine of my own, and haven't run into any difficult problems. Can i expect this upgrade to go smoothly? The machine is running a lot of third-party software, which i am not going to touch. Are there any particular red flags i should look for in terms of either (1) going from a sysinstall install to a source install, or (2) going from 4.6-RELEASE to 4.8-RELEASE? Basically, i'm looking for things i can do to make it more likely that the install will just work (tm). Sorry this question is so long --- i've read the manuals i could find, and there's no substitute for advice from people with experience with the os. If there are any other references which specifically talk about this kind of thing, please point me to those, though. Thanks very much in advance! -Chaos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 20 08:34:31 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B588037B401 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 08:34:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp-out.comcast.net (smtp-out.comcast.net [24.153.64.109]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29EC043FDD for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 08:34:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from apeiron@comcast.net) Received: from [192.168.0.10] (pcp01380957pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net [68.81.162.166]) by mtaout11.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.14 (built Mar 18 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HDN009BTF934J@mtaout11.icomcast.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 11:34:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 11:34:17 -0400 From: Christopher Nehren In-reply-to: <20030420133335.GB70273@users.munk.nu> To: Jez Hancock Message-id: <1050852857.2369.25.camel@prophecy.dyndns.org> Organization: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.4 Content-type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-Kh262+gg9juClfj+je1i"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 References: <1050842887.2369.9.camel@prophecy.dyndns.org> <20030420133335.GB70273@users.munk.nu> cc: FreeBSD questions List Subject: Re: Same old sendmail "loops back to me", not solved with FAQ, etc. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 15:34:32 -0000 --=-Kh262+gg9juClfj+je1i Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2003-04-20 at 09:33, Jez Hancock wrote: > Hi, >=20 > Firstly have you tried setting up an MX record for prophecy.dyndns.org so= it > points to your latest IP addr each time you reconnect? I forgot (my apologies) to mention that the IP address and MX record are completely and totally irrelevant, as all I'm trying to do is send email from a router for my home network to a machine on that home network. 'prophecy.dyndns.org' is simply a DynDNS hostname for my IP that I prefer to use instead of pcp[numbers]pcs.levtwn01.comcast.net . Yes, I've set up the /etc/mail/service.switch file correctly on both machines, and I have host entries in /etc/hosts , and it still barfs on me. As far as I can see, the error message that it gave me has nothing at all to do with what I want to accomplish. > In general regarding the whole freebsd sendmail gubbins... > Try and stay clear of changing the sendmail.cf files directly. Instead > do this: >=20 > cd /etc/mail/ > cp freebsd.mc prophecy.dyndns.org.mc > (Make all changes to this file from now on and when you've made a change = to > it at any time, make sure to rebuild a new .cf file from it using 'make', > see below:). I already have a prophecy.dyndns.org.mc file on top of the freebsd.mc file; I've edited both of them and the problem still exists, before and after a 'make'. > Now check that this line is in /etc/mail/prophecy.dyndns.org.mc: > define(`confCW_FILE', `-o /etc/mail/local-host-names') That's there already. > And then: >=20 > cp /etc/defaults/make.conf /etc/make.conf >=20 > Edit /etc/make.conf so it includes: > SENDMAIL_MC=3D/etc/mail/prophecy.dyndns.org.mc > (this ensures that when you 'make installworld' your config is used) > (note you only really have to copy the bit above into the /etc/make.conf = file, > the file only has effect when you run 'make' in /usr/src afaik) Okay, did that. > Edit your /etc/local-host-names file so it includes: > prophecy.dyndns.org > (sounds like you did this already:) Yep, did that. > cd /etc/mail > make all > cp prophecy.dyndns.org.cf freebsd.cf > make restart Okay, did that too. > Anyway hope that vaguely helps. It's still giving me the MX error ... but thank you for the extensive information. =3D) Regards, Christopher --=-Kh262+gg9juClfj+je1i Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQA+or34UdqurN0fljsRAknsAJ9yEVkOqeAWGMPwxpPio7DvAMUa2wCfW/h4 wP9VpZGHxEEmXOlXI8NdjUI= =51UF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-Kh262+gg9juClfj+je1i-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 20 08:45:35 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A4B337B401 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 08:45:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nagual.st (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [217.120.160.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FA2C43FE1 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 08:45:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.st) Received: from lothlorien.nagual.st (dick@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nagual.st (8.12.3/8.12.3/arwen) with ESMTP id h3KFht1R023210; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 17:43:55 +0200 Received: (from dick@localhost) by lothlorien.nagual.st (8.12.3/8.12.3/local) id h3KFhtZv023208; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 17:43:55 +0200 From: dick hoogendijk Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 17:43:55 +0200 To: "Karl M. Joch" Message-ID: <20030420154355.GA23066@lothlorien.nagual.st> References: <20030419153541.GA886@pooh.nagual.st> <3EA19FCE.4050109@kmjeuro.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3EA19FCE.4050109@kmjeuro.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: gethostbyaddr(IPv6:::1) failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 15:45:35 -0000 On 19 Apr Karl M. Joch wrote: > Dick Hoogendijk wrote: > >## gethostbyaddr(IPv6:::1) failed: 1 > >## gethostbyaddr(192.168.0.1) failed: 1 > add > > ::1 localhost localhost.mydomain.tld > > to /etc/hosts Thanks. Will do. But do I need to put these in too: (?) ::1 ip6-loopback fe00::0 ip6-localnet ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix ff02::1 ip6-allnodes ff02::2 ip6-allrouters ff02::3 ip6-allhosts I read today that this is recommended for IPv6 Capable Hosts -- dick -- http://www.nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 4.8 ++ Debian GNU/Linux (Woody) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 20 08:49:37 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E461637B401 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 08:49:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp-out.comcast.net (smtp-out.comcast.net [24.153.64.115]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60F1E43F75 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 08:49:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from apeiron@comcast.net) Received: from [192.168.0.10] (pcp01380957pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net [68.81.162.166]) by mtaout09.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.14 (built Mar 18 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HDN001GFFW9RX@mtaout09.icomcast.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 11:48:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 11:48:11 -0400 From: Christopher Nehren In-reply-to: <200304201548.38601.neitzel@softmediatec.de> To: Konrad Neitzel Message-id: <1050853690.2369.38.camel@prophecy.dyndns.org> Organization: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.4 Content-type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-RUmfWMfDg3oxU3drR66t"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 References: <1050842887.2369.9.camel@prophecy.dyndns.org> <200304201548.38601.neitzel@softmediatec.de> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Same old sendmail "loops back to me", not solved with FAQ, etc. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 15:49:38 -0000 --=-RUmfWMfDg3oxU3drR66t Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2003-04-20 at 09:48, Konrad Neitzel wrote: > das "loops back to me" means, that the sendmail thinks, that it must=20 > send the eMail to another computer and when doing that, he connects to=20 > himself (directly or over another mailserver). > The main reason for that is normaly: > Your computer is resolved for the host, but the mailserver thinks, that=20 > it isn't responsible for that host. I know what the message means -- I spent hours going through sendmail list archives looking for a solution besides "go read the FAQ" (which I've done, and followed, and reiterated multiple times, to no avail). > Maybe you just want to give us some more information about your problem.=20 > To what adress do you send an eMail? What error comes back? Give us the=20 > configuration of sendmail, .... I'm trying to send mail from an OpenBSD router on my home network to a machine on that network. The error message that I get is the typical "mail loops back to me (MX problem?)". I've set up my service.switch file to use /etc/hosts instead of trying to use DNS to resolve the host. Yes, I've read the FAQ, as I stated before. I've followed it. I've searched mailing list archives for the error message. I think the webadmin of theaimsgroup.com honestly believes that I'm trying to DoS their site by now. ;) Thanks in advance for any help with this. --=-RUmfWMfDg3oxU3drR66t Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQA+osE6UdqurN0fljsRAowKAJ4o6Q9axsnpRCw3JS/VnquSWY9RFgCgmmLe p2szB4mmFzdL2eZbdHHG+ZQ= =oBkE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-RUmfWMfDg3oxU3drR66t-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 20 08:59:13 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3245737B401 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 08:59:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B292643FBF for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 08:59:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blueeskimo@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 21963 invoked by uid 65534); 20 Apr 2003 15:59:10 -0000 Received: from i216-58-29-174.gta.igs.net (EHLO [216.58.29.174]) (216.58.29.174) by mail.gmx.net (mp017-rz3) with SMTP; 20 Apr 2003 17:59:10 +0200 From: Adam To: doc@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-PR1miS81PzFzw9PS4+B0" Organization: Message-Id: <1050854348.68562.20.camel@jake> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.4 Date: 20 Apr 2003 11:59:08 -0400 cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Inaccuracy in 'The Handbook' printer setup manual X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 15:59:13 -0000 --=-PR1miS81PzFzw9PS4+B0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/printing-intro-setup.html#PRINTING-TEST= ING It says: ***************************************************************************= **** 11.3.1.3.2.1 Checking a Parallel Printer This section tells you how to check if FreeBSD can communicate with a printer connected to a parallel port. To test a printer on a parallel port: 1. Become root with su(1). =20 2. Send data to the printer. =20 * If the printer can print plain text, then use lptest(1). Type: =20 =20 # lptest > /dev/lptN =20 Where N is the number of the parallel port, starting from zero. =20 * If the printer understands PostScript or other printer language, then send a small program to the printer. Type: =20 =20 # cat > /dev/lptN =20 Then, line by line, type the program carefully as you cannot edit a line once you have pressed RETURN or ENTER. When you have finished entering the program, press CONTROL+D, or whatever your end of file key is. =20 Alternatively, you can put the program in a file and type: =20 =20 # cat file > /dev/lptN =20 Where file is the name of the file containing the program you want to send to the printer. =20 You should see something print. Do not worry if the text does not look right; we will fix such things later. ***************************************************************************= **** That last part is not entirely true (where is says you should see something print if you pipe to /dev/lptN). This does *NOT* work with some printers (including my Canon S600). However, once apsfilter+ghostscript are installed, the printer works fine. But piping to /dev/lpt0 (or whatever device you are set up for) does not print anything. On my printer in particular, the light blinks when I write to /dev/lpt0, but nothing comes out. This inaccuracy cost me a good day's worth of troubleshooting, because the handbook strongly advised getting this part working before moving on to config'ing printcap and apsfilter. I eventually gave up on this part and decided to move on, at which point I was amazed when it actually worked. I hope this clarification saves someone some heartache in the future. --=20 Adam --=-PR1miS81PzFzw9PS4+B0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQA+osPMu3o4GBMSDL4RAjmwAJwLE9BaJ6P0CcTmm5XUUFkvpjKG1QCfQFsA 429mlMdFAy8Vm3fpYn5Gx3I= =8OHT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-PR1miS81PzFzw9PS4+B0-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 20 09:28:46 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F05A37B405 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 09:28:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web14902.mail.yahoo.com (web14902.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.225.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D570C43F93 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 09:28:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nirv199@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20030420162845.21400.qmail@web14902.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.163.193.74] by web14902.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 09:28:45 PDT Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 09:28:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Paulo Roberto To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: load averages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 16:28:46 -0000 Hello, Is the "load averages" field in uptime/top in percentage?? I am getting values above 1.00 (+100%): > load averages: 1.51, 1.31, 1.20 thanks Paulo __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo http://search.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 20 09:33:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A0AA37B405 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 09:33:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from formula.intercom.net.ua (formula.intercom.net.ua [195.13.40.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DAA543F85 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 09:33:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sms@intercom.net.ua) Received: from ADM (dnipro13-227.intercom.net.ua [195.13.42.227]) h3KGX14Z040117 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 19:33:04 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from sms@intercom.net.ua) Message-ID: <005b01c3075a$85a37900$0201000a@ADM> From: "Oleg Lazarenko" To: Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 19:33:06 +0300 Organization: ISP Intercom MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: please unsubscribe me X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Oleg Lazarenko List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 16:33:07 -0000 Oleg Lazarenko ISP Intercom +380-44-2511288 sms@intercom.net.ua www.intercom.net.ua From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 20 09:36:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF45037B401 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 09:36:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from falcon.midgard.homeip.net (h76n3fls20o913.telia.com [213.67.148.76]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CFD7D43FBF for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 09:36:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ertr1013@student.uu.se) Received: (qmail 69432 invoked by uid 1001); 20 Apr 2003 16:35:59 -0000 Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 18:35:59 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson To: Paulo Roberto Message-ID: <20030420163559.GA69403@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: Paulo Roberto , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20030420162845.21400.qmail@web14902.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030420162845.21400.qmail@web14902.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: load averages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 16:36:04 -0000 On Sun, Apr 20, 2003 at 09:28:45AM -0700, Paulo Roberto wrote: > Hello, > > Is the "load averages" field in uptime/top in percentage?? I am getting > values above 1.00 (+100%): > > > load averages: 1.51, 1.31, 1.20 The "load" is the number of processes that want to use the CPU at any given moment. The numbers shown by uptime/top are the average of the load over the last 1/5/15 minutes. No percentages invloved. If you have several programs running at the same time it is perfectly normal to have a load average greater than 1.0. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 20 09:38:29 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BA2E37B40E for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 09:38:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from serv1.wallnet.com (server1.wallnet.com [208.225.162.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E42A43FE0 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 09:38:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from timothyk@wallnet.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by serv1.wallnet.com (8.11.5/8.11.5) id h3KGcR287863; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 12:38:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from timothyk@wallnet.com) Received: from 10.0.1.9 (mts-113.wallnet.com [208.225.162.45]) by serv1.wallnet.com (8.11.5/8.11.5av) with ESMTP id h3KGcOM87855; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 12:38:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from timothyk@wallnet.com) From: Tim Kellers To: "D. Theunissen" , Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 12:38:04 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 References: <000c01c3067a$7083f9e0$4900a8c0@cp297018a> In-Reply-To: <000c01c3067a$7083f9e0$4900a8c0@cp297018a> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200304201238.04151.timothyk@wallnet.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 Subject: Re: Starting an application thrue vnc results in an error. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 16:38:29 -0000 On Saturday 19 April 2003 09:49 am, D. Theunissen wrote: > Hi there, I hope some of u can help me with this problem. I've installed > tightvnc and it works fine. When I connect to my server on 192.168.0.67 an > try to start 'grip' (a cdripper program) I get the following errors: > > Xlib: connection to ":1.0" refused by server > Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key > Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :1 vnc > > Can anyone help me with this one? > > Tnx in advance. > > Danny on the machine you are starting the application from, type: xhost 192.168.0.67 at a shell prompt. FreeBSD's security model rejects remote X commands by default unless you specifically allow the remote machines to connect. Tim Kellers CPE/NJIT From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 20 09:44:13 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 182DA37B401 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 09:44:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from binder.sasknow.net (binder.sasknow.net [204.83.220.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0894543FEC for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 09:44:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ryan@sasknow.com) Received: from ren (ren.sasknow.com [207.195.92.131]) by binder.sasknow.net (8.12.6p2/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h3KGi2gA043700; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 10:44:07 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ryan@sasknow.com) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 10:44:02 -0600 (CST) From: Ryan Thompson To: Chaos Golubitsky In-Reply-To: <20030420151609.GB25272@glassonion.org> Message-ID: <20030420101534.A68932-100000@ren.sasknow.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Audit: 1 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: patching a production system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 16:44:13 -0000 Chaos Golubitsky wrote to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org: > Hi all, Hello, > [...] > real experience with FreeBSD.) I want to be able to keep the box > reasonably current on security patches to the os, so it seems to me > that i should be tracking freebsd-RELEASE. Specifically, you probably want to track one of the RELENG_4_x branches. If you want to move to 4.8, use RELENG_4_8 as your CVS tag. > My question is in two parts: > > (a) (I think the answer is no, but would love to hear otherwise): > Do i have an alternative to maintaining a source tree on this > machine? The release engineering notes: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng/article.html > mention binary patchkits for the release branch, but i don't > think these actually exist. Assuming you're running on i386 hardware, and staying current, binary patches are released for most security advisories. For more information, look at the advisories themselves, which will direct you to excellent information on how they may be applied. This usually includes binary updating instructions. Binary upgrades are fine if you don't use custom compile flags. Past advisories can be found here: http://www.freebsd.org/security/ > Does anyone know? Conversely, how > easy is it to do updates using /stand/sysinstall without changing > my system configuration more than needed? The buildworld -> > installworld -> mergemaster routine seems convenient and stable, > but i don't like doing source compiles on a production machine, > and we don't have budget for a spare with similar architecture. For a production machine, I'd recommend the buildworld process, with copious backups, scheduled maintenance window, and a test run on a different machine. (Even if it's *not* a similar architecture. 99% of the battle is getting things right with mergemaster... and you can test *that* on an old Pentium :-) > (b) Specifically, the machine is currently running 4.6-RELEASE, and > i thought i would upgrade it to 4.8-RELEASE and track that, > since FreeBSD will test its security patches for longer (right?), Right. http://www.freebsd.org/security/#adv > so i won't have to upgrade again for awhile. The machine was > originally installed using /stand/sysinstall, and not by me. > I have tested out the sysinstall -> cvs upgrade -> build -> > install process on a spare machine of my own, and haven't run > into any difficult problems. Good! Document your progress. Try it again by mirroring your production machine's configuration (and OS build, which you can still download and install, if necessary), and make sure you can do that smoothly. An extra hour or two to do this is *well* worth the effort, if it reduces the risk of serious downtime and pissed customers or lost productivity. > Can i expect this upgrade to go smoothly? It depends how skilled you are. :-) Honestly, many people on this list have done this many times, without much grief. Going between minor point releases (4.6 -> 4.7) is a bit tricker, because new features get added to the system between releases that you'll have to contend with. (And, typically, mergemaster comes up with many more diffs). In your case, since your testing facilities are limited, I'd probably do 4.6 -> 4.7 first, and test that profusely. Do the upgrade to 4.8 at a later date. This isn't *necessary*, but you may find it helpful. Oh, and, as the instructions say, read /usr/src/UPDATING . It will hopefully contain most of the "gotchas" that you will be expected to know about while doing the upgrade. > The machine is running > a lot of third-party software, which i am not going to touch. Beware statically linked binaries in your 3rd party software. Our binary format hasn't changed, but you will run into snags with updates to system libraries if they've been statically linked. > Are there any particular red flags i should look for in terms > of either (1) going from a sysinstall install to a source > install, or (2) going from 4.6-RELEASE to 4.8-RELEASE? Basically, > i'm looking for things i can do to make it more likely that the > install will just work (tm). A source install is still probably the way to go, as it allows you the greatest range of customization and control while you upgrade your system. In terms of production machines, you're making a relatively large move, so you want to proceed carefully. (Nix that. You *always* want to proceed carefully :-). Once you're tracking a more current release (RELENG_4_8), the updates will be comparatively small. In many cases, you can apply the updates in binary form, or recompile only specific bits of the OS (e.g., sendmail), without even rebooting. It is not usually necessary to rebuild the entire OS. Pearls of wisdom (not all about FreeBSD): Give yourself lots of time. cvsup/buildworld anytime. Schedule a maintenance window for mergemaster and installworld in the wee hours, if possible. Schedule 4X the amount of time you'll need, and then happily report you did it in a fraction of the time. Do not respond (have someone else respond) to customer/internal reports during the outage. Don't rush; chances are you'll just bugger something up and waste *more* time. Document everything. > Sorry this question is so long :-) Hope this helps, - Ryan -- Ryan Thompson SaskNow Technologies - http://www.sasknow.com 901-1st Avenue North - Saskatoon, SK - S7K 1Y4 Tel: 306-664-3600 Fax: 306-244-7037 Saskatoon Toll-Free: 877-727-5669 (877-SASKNOW) North America From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 20 09:48:45 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FF3637B404 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 09:48:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from serv1.wallnet.com (server1.wallnet.com [208.225.162.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8509543FD7 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 09:48:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from timothyk@wallnet.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by serv1.wallnet.com (8.11.5/8.11.5) id h3KGmis88401; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 12:48:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from timothyk@wallnet.com) Received: from 10.0.1.9 (mts-113.wallnet.com [208.225.162.45]) by serv1.wallnet.com (8.11.5/8.11.5av) with ESMTP id h3KGmbM88383; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 12:48:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from timothyk@wallnet.com) From: Tim Kellers To: Adam , Andy Harrison Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 12:48:18 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 References: <1050783356.32991.0.camel@jake> In-Reply-To: <1050783356.32991.0.camel@jake> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200304201248.18325.timothyk@wallnet.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: multi-aterm? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 16:48:45 -0000 On Saturday 19 April 2003 04:15 pm, Adam wrote: > On Sat, 2003-04-19 at 16:08, Andy Harrison wrote: > > Why not just use screen? IIRC, it's capable of 40 term screens by > > default. > > > > The port is in misc/screen. > > I tried using screen, but it was unhappy about backspaces, so I gave up > on it. Unfortunately, I hit the backspace key quite a bit. ;/ screen likes CONTROL-H for backspaces by it's defau;t config Tim Kellers CPE/NJIT From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 20 09:55:54 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26E3E37B41D for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 09:55:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pa-plum1b-166.pit.adelphia.net (pa-plum1b-122.pit.adelphia.net [24.53.161.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BEE043FA3 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 09:55:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from potentialtech.com (working [172.16.0.95]) h3KGtpwl001627; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 12:55:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Message-ID: <3EA2D117.2050607@potentialtech.com> Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 12:55:51 -0400 From: Bill Moran User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20030301 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Oleg Lazarenko References: <005b01c3075a$85a37900$0201000a@ADM> In-Reply-To: <005b01c3075a$85a37900$0201000a@ADM> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: please unsubscribe me X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 16:55:54 -0000 Oleg Lazarenko wrote: > Oleg Lazarenko > ISP Intercom > +380-44-2511288 > sms@intercom.net.ua > www.intercom.net.ua > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Have you tried sending mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org? -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 20 09:57:51 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0676337B404 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 09:57:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from binder.sasknow.net (binder.sasknow.net [204.83.220.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ADBF43FE0 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 09:57:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ryan@sasknow.com) Received: from ren (ren.sasknow.com [207.195.92.131]) by binder.sasknow.net (8.12.6p2/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h3KGvlQ4043784; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 10:57:47 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ryan@sasknow.com) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 10:57:47 -0600 (CST) From: Ryan Thompson To: Paulo Roberto In-Reply-To: <20030420162845.21400.qmail@web14902.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20030420104446.K68932-100000@ren.sasknow.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Audit: 1 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: load averages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 16:57:51 -0000 Paulo Roberto wrote to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org: > Hello, Hi Paulo, > Is the "load averages" field in uptime/top in percentage?? No. The load averages represent the number of processes in the run queue (i.e., the number of processes that are ready to run, but must wait for CPU time). Load averages > 1.00 are normal. I haven't seen this discussion on here for awhile, so I'll explain further. Load averages are only loosely correlated with system performance. It is possible to have relatively high load averages, and still have a very responsive system. It is also possible to have load averages below 0.50 on a disk-bound machine, and have an unusable machine. (I've seen both). It is also possible to inadvertently write a fork bomb (in Perl) and watch them peak at about 600, and still manage to obtain a sort-of-responsive root login to kill all of the processes. (Uh.. I've *never* seen that happen). Again, load average is a function of the number of processes waiting for CPU time. *Not* of actual CPU utilization (which will often be quite a bit lower than 100%), or of overall resource utilization (disk, net, etc.) Use load averages for only a very rough sanity check. - Ryan -- Ryan Thompson SaskNow Technologies - http://www.sasknow.com 901-1st Avenue North - Saskatoon, SK - S7K 1Y4 Tel: 306-664-3600 Fax: 306-244-7037 Saskatoon Toll-Free: 877-727-5669 (877-SASKNOW) North America From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 20 10:10:59 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 926CD37B404 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 10:10:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from simmts3-srv.bellnexxia.net (simmts3-srv.bellnexxia.net [206.47.199.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 103CB43FB1 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 10:10:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from efdeguzman@sympatico.ca) Received: from Computer3 ([64.229.117.199]) by simmts7-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20030420171047.XVRM8530.simmts7-srv.bellnexxia.net@Computer3> for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 13:10:47 -0400 Message-ID: <000401c3075f$d12d7290$6401a8c0@Computer3> From: "Ed" To: Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 00:19:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: FreeBSD users X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 17:11:00 -0000 You listed: http://www.zdnet.com.au/ as a FreeBSD user. A check with = http://www.netcraft.com shows that the site uses Linux. =20 Please update your listing to avoid confusion. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 20 10:40:51 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27CF837B401 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 10:40:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pa-plum1b-166.pit.adelphia.net (pa-plum1b-122.pit.adelphia.net [24.53.161.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50D1443FB1 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 10:40:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from potentialtech.com (working [172.16.0.95]) h3KHenwl001644; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 13:40:49 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Message-ID: <3EA2DBA1.4050807@potentialtech.com> Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 13:40:49 -0400 From: Bill Moran User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20030301 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chaos Golubitsky References: <20030420151609.GB25272@glassonion.org> In-Reply-To: <20030420151609.GB25272@glassonion.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: patching a production system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 17:40:51 -0000 Ryan Thompson said most of what I wanted to say, so I'm just going to add a few things here and there. Chaos Golubitsky wrote: > Hi all, > > This is an advice question, so i hope this list is the right place > to ask: i am tasked with maintaining a FreeBSD box which is a server > for a very small company. (I am a sysadmin, but this is my first > real experience with FreeBSD.) I want to be able to keep the box > reasonably current on security patches to the os, so it seems to > me that i should be tracking freebsd-RELEASE. There's no -RELEASE to track. RELEASE is a snapshot, and it never changes once it's been released. What you want to track are the patches for the particular -RELEASE you're using. > My question is in two parts: > > (a) (I think the answer is no, but would love to hear otherwise): > Do i have an alternative to maintaining a source tree on this > machine? The release engineering notes: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng/article.html > mention binary patchkits for the release branch, but i don't > think these actually exist. Does anyone know? Conversely, how > easy is it to do updates using /stand/sysinstall without changing > my system configuration more than needed? The buildworld -> > installworld -> mergemaster routine seems convenient and stable, > but i don't like doing source compiles on a production machine, > and we don't have budget for a spare with similar architecture. I recommend the build->install->mergemaster process. I've been using it for years on production machines and never gotten bitten. A few hints on "not getting bitten" 1) Subscribe to -STABLE and lurk. You don't have to read every message, but watch for HEADSUPs and subjects that appear to pertain to you. 2) Always read /usr/src/UPDATING before starting anything 3) Always do a 'cp -Rp /etc /etc.old' before starting mergemaster. Although mergemaster works very well, it's easy to make a mistake (especially when you're new to it). 4) Follow the handbook to the letter 5) If, at step 21.4.8 in the handbook (where you've got a new kernel installed, but not a new world yet) you can't boot the machine because the new kernel has problems, you can boot kernel.old and then copy kernel.old back to kernel and /modules.old back to /modules and you've effectively reverted to the pre-installkernel state of the machine. (this failsafe should really be in the handbook ... I should really generate some diffs ...) After the first or second time you've done the procedure, it gets pretty routine. I understand your concern about not wanting to build on production machines, but there are a few things to know: 1) If you're tracking the patch tree (i.e. RELENG_4_8 for example) there is very little chance of anything running afoul. 2) I've run builworld/buildkernel on production systems while they were in use without the users even knowing I was doing it, then run the installworld/installkernel/mergemaster after hours (only takes 15-30 minutes in the evening that way) I don't know if I'd recommend running buildworld/buildkernel during business hours (unless it's a very overpowered machine) but the point is: you can get away with it. 3) I've also done upgrades remotely via ssh (off hours) with no problems. This isn't recommended either, but you can get away with it 99% of the time. > (b) Specifically, the machine is currently running 4.6-RELEASE, and > i thought i would upgrade it to 4.8-RELEASE and track that, > since FreeBSD will test its security patches for longer (right?), > so i won't have to upgrade again for awhile. The machine was > originally installed using /stand/sysinstall, and not by me. > I have tested out the sysinstall -> cvs upgrade -> build -> > install process on a spare machine of my own, and haven't run > into any difficult problems. Depending on the environment: 1) If the machine is unused on weekends, you can easily schedule upgrades as needed. I recommend scheduling an entire weekend (probably won't take that long) to get it up to date with the latest RELENG_4_8 and update that as patches are released. At some point you're going to want to move to RELENG_5, but that's a bit in the future and will present new and different problems. 2) If the machine is used 24/7, you need to find somewhere to get some downtime and keep it relatively current. Plan for sometime in the as-near-as-possible future to upgrade to the latest RELENG_4_6 and plan on staying there until you can schedule a little more time to bring it up to RELENG_4_8. > Can i expect this upgrade to go smoothly? Yes > The machine is running > a lot of third-party software, which i am not going to touch. I think that's a BIG mistake. You need to make a list of third-party apps that the machine uses and put a plan in motion to get them updated as well. A fully-updated FreeBSD machine is little help if you have an app with a known security hole or memory leak that keeps bringing it down. Updating third-part apps is generally much harder than updating FreeBSD itself as there are more things that can go wrong (statically linked programs, dependencies ... etc) Here's my suggestion. 1) Always install from ports 2) Use 'make package' to have a package available for everything you install. That way, if an upgrade fails, you can reinstall the older, working version until you figure out what went wrong. 3) Backup /usr/local/etc and any other directories that your apps might use before upgrading them! 4) Subscribe to bugtraq and any other relevent security mailing lists and make note when things need updated. Schedule and plan as problems arise. Unfortunately, you don't have the liberty of doing 1 and 2 on software that somebody else already installed, so this first upgrade may be tricky. Do lots of research, and testing on another machine to keep it from going to hell. > Are there any particular red flags i should look for in terms > of either (1) going from a sysinstall install to a source > install, Not at all. > or (2) going from 4.6-RELEASE to 4.8-RELEASE? They'll be in /usr/src/UPDATING. > Basically, > i'm looking for things i can do to make it more likely that the > install will just work (tm). Up front research always helps! I think you'll be fine! Hope I've helped. -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 20 11:26:57 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B76037B401 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 11:26:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 50DBC43FAF for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 11:26:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blueeskimo@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 19317 invoked by uid 65534); 20 Apr 2003 18:26:54 -0000 Received: from i216-58-29-174.gta.igs.net (EHLO [216.58.29.174]) (216.58.29.174) by mail.gmx.net (mp022-rz3) with SMTP; 20 Apr 2003 20:26:54 +0200 From: Adam To: Tim Kellers In-Reply-To: <200304201248.18325.timothyk@wallnet.com> References: <200304201248.18325.timothyk@wallnet.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-jbwIbZFSwD592QoQWEFO" Organization: Message-Id: <1050863213.68562.23.camel@jake> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.4 Date: 20 Apr 2003 14:26:53 -0400 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: multi-aterm? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 18:26:57 -0000 --=-jbwIbZFSwD592QoQWEFO Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2003-04-20 at 12:48, Tim Kellers wrote: > screen likes CONTROL-H for backspaces by it's defau;t config Yeah, and that's what bothered me so much. I never found a way to get backspace to work as normal backspace, so I gave up on using screen. I do agree that screen is a very handy utility, but that backspace thing just irritated me to death. --=20 Adam --=-jbwIbZFSwD592QoQWEFO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQA+ouZtu3o4GBMSDL4RAkdPAKCkjl0KxUWDcwkIxpV6JACpFe7IzACfYFjx SExQXTPd6lO8a4h2VYDZESE= =ITbF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-jbwIbZFSwD592QoQWEFO-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 20 11:36:53 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85C6237B401 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 11:36:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mallard.mail.pas.earthlink.net (mallard.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.48]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F058C43F3F for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 11:36:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from deepbsd@earthlink.net) Received: from user-119a2km.biz.mindspring.com ([66.149.10.150] helo=sylvester.dsj.net) by mallard.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 197JgJ-0001eG-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 11:36:51 -0700 Received: from sylvester.dsj.net (dsj@localhost [127.0.0.1]) h3KIamjv023463 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 14:36:49 -0400 Received: (from dsj@localhost) by sylvester.dsj.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-5) id h3KIalQr023460 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 14:36:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: sylvester.dsj.net: dsj set sender to deepbsd@earthlink.net using -f Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 14:36:46 -0400 From: "David S. Jackson" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030420183646.GC11161@sylvester.dsj.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Subject: pkgdb -F error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "David S. Jackson" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 18:36:53 -0000 Hi, I was just issuing a pkgdb -F and got the following error: ** Error occured reading /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf: undefined method `+' for nil Does anyone know what this is without my attaching a copy of my pkgtools.conf? Any other info needed? TIA! -- David S. Jackson dsj@dsj.net =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Thank goodness modern convenience is a thing of the remote future. -- Pogo, by Walt Kelly From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 20 11:37:22 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B16E37B401 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 11:37:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ms-smtp-01.tampabay.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.tampabay.rr.com [65.32.1.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFB9F43FA3 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 11:37:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rreinoso@cfl.rr.com@ms-smtp-01.tampabay.rr.com) Received: from volvo.reisol.net (135.225.8.67.cfl.rr.com [67.8.225.135]) h3KIbKn6022821 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 14:37:20 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: "rreinoso@cfl.rr.com" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 18:40:11 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200304201840.11283."rreinoso@cfl.rr.com"> Subject: Serial Port Problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 18:37:22 -0000 I installed an X10 controller card that uses COM3 as the device interface= =2E =20 The first time I installed it it had a problem (see the error messages du= ring=20 boot up below), but after recompiling the kernel, the messages went away = and=20 it worked very well. However, I had to re-install FreeBSD because I had partitioned the disk v= ery=20 badly, and now I can't get the card to work. No matter what I've tried, = I=20 still get the error messages. I already checked the serial card jumpers = and=20 the "/boot/device.hints" file, and everything looks fine. I am out of id= eas,=20 and I don't know when the IRQs are probed and what the whole thing about=20 probed IRQs means. Any help will be welcome. sio2: configured irq 5 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio2: port may not be enabled sio2 at port 0x3e8-0x3ef irq 5 on isa0 sio2: type 16450 Ramiro Reinoso rreinoso@cfl.rr.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 20 11:43:30 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56E3C37B401 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 11:43:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sage.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6269443FBF for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 11:43:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (root@tao [10.0.0.247]) by sage.thought.org (8.12.9/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h3KIgVkh078081 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 11:42:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by thought.org (8.12.6/8.11.3) id h3KIhPPn070894 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 11:43:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 11:43:24 -0700 From: Gary D Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20030420184323.GA70819@tao.thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 16 years of service to the Unix community User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i Subject: evolution question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 18:43:30 -0000 On another FBSD server I installed evolution but cannot send mail. A popup reports that sendmail exited with status 71: mail not sent. Some test messages are saved in my evolution OUTBOX. I used /var/mail/kline as mhy spool; sendmail for outgoing. The thing that gets me is tht on another internal server running RH, evolution seems to work fine. evolution prints errors to stderr on my xterm; if I am missing some gnome libraries, that may explain it. Can anybody clue me in here? Do I need to be running Gnome or KDE for this to work? (I'm using ctwm.) gary PS: NB: I'm missing (at least) libgmodule-2.0.so.0 on this server. Lots of cleanup to do here, so am trying it/evolution on my DNS and mail server. -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 20 11:51:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ADE037B401 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 11:51:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.65.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5F05F43F3F for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 11:51:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blueeskimo@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 5175 invoked by uid 65534); 20 Apr 2003 18:51:05 -0000 Received: from i216-58-29-174.gta.igs.net (EHLO [216.58.29.174]) (216.58.29.174) by mail.gmx.net (mp010-rz3) with SMTP; 20 Apr 2003 20:51:05 +0200 From: Adam To: FreeBSD Mailing List In-Reply-To: <20030420184323.GA70819@tao.thought.org> References: <20030420184323.GA70819@tao.thought.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-7NKpJsx1e3b3+bZ5hO6m" Organization: Message-Id: <1050864665.68562.26.camel@jake> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.4 Date: 20 Apr 2003 14:51:05 -0400 Subject: Re: evolution question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 18:51:08 -0000 --=-7NKpJsx1e3b3+bZ5hO6m Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2003-04-20 at 14:43, Gary D Kline wrote: > Can anybody clue me in here? Do I need to be running Gnome or > KDE for this to work? (I'm using ctwm.) Although I don't know the answer to your question, I can verify that Evo works fine without KDE or Gnome. I'm running Fluxbox, and don't even have KDE or Gnome installed, and Evo works great. Hope this narrows your troubleshooting search space down a bit. --=20 Adam --=-7NKpJsx1e3b3+bZ5hO6m Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQA+ouwZu3o4GBMSDL4RAla2AJ9twSbhmNWxSlinKqX/pHdNLKmJ2QCeJX70 x/ZA1pxrShZTNv/DdcHaURE= =crav -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-7NKpJsx1e3b3+bZ5hO6m-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 20 12:06:37 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EFF837B401 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 12:06:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ms-smtp-02.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3126543FEA for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 12:06:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Received: from mail3.nc.rr.com (fe3 [24.93.67.50])h3KJ4Ugs017580; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 15:04:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from creme-brulee.marcuscom.com ([66.57.17.158]) by mail3.nc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Sun, 20 Apr 2003 15:03:53 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.4] (shumai.marcuscom.com [192.168.1.4]) h3KJ4maa026300; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 15:04:49 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) From: Joe Marcus Clarke To: Gary D Kline In-Reply-To: <20030420184323.GA70819@tao.thought.org> References: <20030420184323.GA70819@tao.thought.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-nSwQ39qav4lPb0/kaTrW" Organization: MarcusCom, Inc. Message-Id: <1050865589.9550.13.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.3.2 (Preview Release) Date: 20 Apr 2003 15:06:29 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-39.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,PGP_SIGNATURE_2, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,QUOTE_TWICE_1,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES autolearn=ham version=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: evolution question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 19:06:37 -0000 --=-nSwQ39qav4lPb0/kaTrW Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2003-04-20 at 14:43, Gary D Kline wrote: > On another FBSD server I installed evolution but cannot > send mail. A popup reports that sendmail exited with > status 71: mail not sent. Some test messages are saved=20 > in my evolution OUTBOX. Have you tried sending mail from another [simpler] app (e.g. pine)? >=20 > I used /var/mail/kline as mhy spool; sendmail for outgoing. > The thing that gets me is tht on another internal server > running RH, evolution seems to work fine. >=20 > evolution prints errors to stderr on my xterm; if I am missing > some gnome libraries, that may explain it. =20 Indeed it might. >=20 > Can anybody clue me in here? Do I need to be running Gnome or > KDE for this to work? (I'm using ctwm.) No. Evo will work without any WM. You just need to make sure all the dependencies are there. >=20 > gary >=20 > PS: NB: I'm missing (at least) libgmodule-2.0.so.0 on this > server. Lots of cleanup to do here, so am trying it/evolution > on my DNS and mail server. Okay, sounds like you need to do a portupgrade -fR evolution. This will sync all your Evo libraries, and might solve your problem. It will definitely solve the missing library issues. Note, libgmodule-2.0.so.0 is old. The correct, current version is libgmodule-2.0.so.200. Joe --=20 PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc --=-nSwQ39qav4lPb0/kaTrW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQA+ou+1b2iPiv4Uz4cRAk58AJ4nH/wcCny/j6CBD5zEBz5u6HcqJQCgqbSY mkTAQEquLgiYikZwJpv1+vc= =LfQc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-nSwQ39qav4lPb0/kaTrW-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 20 12:19:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8436A37B401 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 12:19:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.inetcomm.ru (mail.inetcomm.ru [212.152.32.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEC9843FD7 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 12:19:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mangoost@inetcomm.ru) Received: by mail.inetcomm.ru (Postfix, from userid 90) id 4B67B17910; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 23:19:09 +0400 (MSD) Received: from mangoost.tronet.troitsk.ru (spirit.tronet.ru [212.152.36.114]) by mail.inetcomm.ru (Postfix) with SMTP id C912F174C3 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 23:19:08 +0400 (MSD) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 23:21:01 +0000 From: alex To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20030420232101.2d6d7775.mangoost@inetcomm.ru> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.11claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: how can I change the default device/file in bool2 loader? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 19:19:14 -0000 Hello, Am I right? That is called boot2 ? : >> FreeBSD/i386 BOOT Default: 0:ad(0,a)/boot/loader boot: I.e. if I need to load/boot 0:ad(0,e)/kernel , I have to type device/file name. How can I set it for default? Thanks. -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 20 12:28:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61D0337B401 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 12:28:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx20b.rmci.net (mx20b.rmci.net [205.162.184.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D298343FD7 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 12:28:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from massey@rmci.net) Received: (qmail 3819 invoked from network); 20 Apr 2003 19:28:13 -0000 Received: from dsl-ip-216-222-2-35.boi.rmci.net (HELO data) (216.222.2.35) by mx20.rmci.net with SMTP; 20 Apr 2003 19:28:13 -0000 From: "Mike" To: "'FreeBSD Mailing List'" Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 13:36:00 -0600 Message-ID: <000e01c30774$125be940$0500a8c0@data> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 In-Reply-To: <20030420184323.GA70819@tao.thought.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal Subject: IOMEGA Click Drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 19:28:14 -0000 Trying to figure out how to mount a IOMEGA Click drive in my laptop. The device shows up as adf0 but when trying to mount it I get bad superblock size. Any hint's would be welcome Thanks M;) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 20 12:48:28 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2895F37B405 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 12:48:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp-out.comcast.net (smtp-out.comcast.net [24.153.64.110]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90AC443FBF for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 12:48:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from apeiron@comcast.net) Received: from [192.168.0.10] (pcp01380957pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net [68.81.162.166]) by mtaout10.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.14 (built Mar 18 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HDN008ELQY1LR@mtaout10.icomcast.net> for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 15:46:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 15:46:52 -0400 From: Christopher Nehren To: Gary D Kline Message-id: <1050868011.2369.52.camel@prophecy.dyndns.org> Organization: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.4 Content-type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-5FVLEpIbT0vodbMM6EKk"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: evolution question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 19:48:29 -0000 --=-5FVLEpIbT0vodbMM6EKk Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Have you checked your MTA log files? Have you tried using a raw telnet connection to test your MTA? --=-5FVLEpIbT0vodbMM6EKk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQA+ovkrUdqurN0fljsRAviJAJ0Z6pvloMVNVemJHBEmUXBgWSk0mgCcDIim DQO5k5tEGzYPTCAn1lZLuS0= =JLwv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-5FVLEpIbT0vodbMM6EKk-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 20 15:08:13 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F91B37B401 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 15:08:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-67-115-75-1.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [67.115.75.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1074D43FB1 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 15:08:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from rot13.obsecurity.org (rot13.obsecurity.org [10.0.0.5]) by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D455366E3D; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 15:08:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rot13.obsecurity.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C29171001; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 15:08:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 15:08:12 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Ed Message-ID: <20030420220812.GG78660@rot13.obsecurity.org> References: <000401c3075f$d12d7290$6401a8c0@Computer3> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="bFsKbPszpzYNtEU6" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000401c3075f$d12d7290$6401a8c0@Computer3> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD users X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 22:08:13 -0000 --bFsKbPszpzYNtEU6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sun, Apr 20, 2003 at 12:19:03AM -0400, Ed wrote: > You listed: http://www.zdnet.com.au/ as a FreeBSD user. A check > with http://www.netcraft.com shows that the site uses Linux. That shows that Netcraft thinks that the webserver uses Linux. Netcraft is not always correct, and it doesn't have any way to check the OS run on non-webservers. FreeBSD may well be used internally. > Please update your listing to avoid confusion. Someone should check with zdnet.com.au first. Kris --bFsKbPszpzYNtEU6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+oxpMWry0BWjoQKURAsuRAJ9rHhntnHB9K2eWoM6F8Quzvc24mACeNMau ZiLTx9Jw0HfJ+DNrKtRJVts= =YtdG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --bFsKbPszpzYNtEU6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 20 15:08:48 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F7F937B404 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 15:08:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hall.mail.mindspring.net (hall.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9388143F75 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 15:08:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tristan11@mindspring.com) Received: from h-68-164-21-219.snvacaid.covad.net ([68.164.21.219] helo=mindspring.com) by hall.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 197MzO-0002z9-00; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 18:08:46 -0400 Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 15:08:44 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) From: Michelle Weeks To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <200304201317.03741.chris@topher.gintera.net> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.551) Subject: Re: cdrom - device not configured error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 22:08:48 -0000 On Sunday, April 20, 2003, at 12:17 PM, Christopher Rosado wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Friday 18 April 2003 03:35 pm, Michelle Weeks wrote: > >> i'm trying to mount /dev/acd0c and i keep getting the error "device >> not >> configured". the freebsd handbook states that either the drive does >> not think there is a cd in the tray or the machine can't see the drive >> on the bus. i've put the cd in the tray several times, tried multiple >> cds that can be read by another freebsd machine and still the error >> "device not configured". this is a production server and i would like >> to avoid bringing the server down if at all possible. is there a way >> to tell if the machine can see the cdrom drive on the bus? or is >> there >> something else that could be causing this behavior? > > I noticed this several months ago after CVSUP'ing to a new codebase > (don't > remember if it was to a new -RELEASE or -STABLE, although I think it > was > around 4.6[.x]). A friend on IRC also ran into this sometime after I > did, so > I'm fairly sure it wasn't something specific to my machine... perhaps > a bug. > > Using "mount_cd9660 /dev/acd0a /cdrom" worked for me and my buddy. > FWIW, the > *correct* behavior is working for me again on 4.8, so you may want to > consider a CVSUP. that did it!!!! : ) thank you so much and thanks to the rest of the folks who also tried to help me out. > > > - -- > Christopher Rosado > "Liberalism leads to loss of liberty." - Me > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/logcabinyouth/ > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) > > iD8DBQE+ovIsk41LrboeC7gRAh30AKCO1MnLEFtAnXU56/OrV5QeWHXZ2wCdHA9T > aLZT2QGSNQ9h8eht5IdvrRM= > =ySP9 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 20 15:17:57 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E11037B401 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 15:17:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from quasi.concon.homeip.net (adsl-67-116-217-192.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net [67.116.217.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6444B43FDD for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 15:17:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jconner@enterit.com) Received: from there (snafux [192.168.100.13])h3KLMXHo010559; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 17:22:35 -0400 Message-Id: <200304202122.h3KLMXHo010559@quasi.concon.homeip.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Jim To: Gerard Samuel , FreeBSD Questions Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 15:21:09 -0700 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: <3EA04475.6060408@trini0.org> In-Reply-To: <3EA04475.6060408@trini0.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [mail_lists] My first shell script X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jconner@enterit.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 22:17:57 -0000 On Friday 18 April 2003 11:31, Gerard Samuel wrote: I would make it more manageable by changing some of the directories you have in there to variables so that it could be edited more quickly. See below for example: #!/bin/sh # # To populate dev team mailinglist archive # date=`date '+%Y-%m'` mhonarc_bin="/usr/local/bin/mhonarc" chown_bin="/usr/bin/chown" ecartis_base="/usr/local/ecartis" list_archive="/files/www/data/list_archive/$date" mbox="$ecartis_base/lists/dev-team/archives/mbox/dev-team.$date" chown_args="-R www.www $list_archives" mhonarc_args="-outdir $list_archives -add $mbox" if [ ! -d $list_archive ] then if [ -s $mbox ] then mkdir $list_archives fi fi $mhonarc_bin $mhonarc_args $chown_bin $chown_args exit 0 | Well I had just installed mhonarc to turn a mailling list archive into | html, and didn't know how to make the | process automagic. | I never wrote a shell script from scratch before, and came up with this | after a brief search on Google for commands. | It does work, but Im just looking for critical comments to the script, | to see if I can improve on it.. | If not, its in the archive for others to use it. | Thanks | ------------------------------------ | #!/bin/sh | # | # To populate dev team mailinglist archive | # | | date=`date '+%Y-%m'` | | if test ! -d /files/www/data/list_archive/$date | then | if test -s | /usr/local/ecartis/lists/dev-team/archives/mbox/dev-team.$date | then | mkdir /files/www/data/list_archive/$date | /usr/local/bin/mhonarc -outdir | /files/www/data/list_archive/$date | /usr/local/ecartis/lists/dev-team/archives/mbox/dev-team.$date | chown -R www:www /files/www/data/list_archive/$date | fi | exit | else | /usr/local/bin/mhonarc -outdir /files/www/data/list_archive/$date | -add /usr/local/ecartis/lists/dev-team/archives/mbox/dev-team.$date | chown -R www:www /files/www/data/list_archive/$date | fi | exit 0 | | _______________________________________________ | freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list | http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions | To unsubscribe, send any mail to | "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- - Jim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 20 15:38:49 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82AB437B404 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 15:38:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from viefep12-int.chello.at (viefep12-int.chello.at [213.46.255.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A92243FD7 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 15:38:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ant@overclockers.at) Received: from Deadcell.ant ([80.110.151.164]) by viefep12-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.5.01.05.17 201-253-122-126-117-20021021) with ESMTP id <20030420223846.LEQQ15459.viefep12-int.chello.at@Deadcell.ant> for ; Mon, 21 Apr 2003 00:38:46 +0200 Received: by Deadcell.ant (Postfix, from userid 1001) id CA09E351; Mon, 21 Apr 2003 00:38:46 +0200 (CEST) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20030420223846.CA09E351@Deadcell.ant> Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 00:38:46 +0200 (CEST) From: ant@overclockers.at (Andreas Ntaflos) Subject: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 22:38:50 -0000 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 20 15:53:32 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 167C537B401 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 15:53:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from viefep16-int.chello.at (viefep16-int.chello.at [213.46.255.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7B7343F75 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 15:53:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ant@overclockers.at) Received: from Deadcell.ant ([80.110.151.164]) by viefep16-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.5.01.05.17 201-253-122-126-117-20021021) with ESMTP id <20030420225329.OZKE5900.viefep16-int.chello.at@Deadcell.ant> for ; Mon, 21 Apr 2003 00:53:29 +0200 Received: by Deadcell.ant (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A9BA2351; Mon, 21 Apr 2003 00:53:29 +0200 (CEST) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20030420225329.A9BA2351@Deadcell.ant> Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 00:53:29 +0200 (CEST) From: ant@overclockers.at (Andreas Ntaflos) Subject: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 22:53:32 -0000 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 20 16:00:15 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CF7937B40F for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 16:00:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.prodigy.net.mx (dfproxy03.prodigy.net.mx [148.235.168.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19CE443FD7 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 16:00:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ibac@prodigy.net.mx) Received: from pc1 (du-200-67-41-56.prodigy.net.mx [200.67.41.56]) sims.4.0.2001.07.26.11.50.p9) with SMTP id <0HDN00CWIZU8SP@SMTP.Prodigy.Net.mx>; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 17:58:58 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 18:00:27 -0500 From: Alfonso Romero To: freebsd-questions Message-id: <01da01c30790$a25e9b20$0100a8c0@ibac> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: How can I know if Lynx is installed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 23:00:15 -0000 I installed the Lynx package from ftp.freebsd.org. I exited sysinstall = and typed lynx, but it gives me the "Command not found" message. I=B4m = running as root. How can I know if some package is installed, like Lynx, = for example? Thanks in advance, Alfonso Romero From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 20 16:00:21 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84B9A37B405 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 16:00:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sage.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C8C943FA3 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 16:00:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (root@tao [10.0.0.247]) by sage.thought.org (8.12.9/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h3KMxFkh078478; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 15:59:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by thought.org (8.12.6/8.11.3) id h3KN0CY0071345; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 16:00:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 16:00:10 -0700 From: Gary D Kline To: Joe Marcus Clarke Message-ID: <20030420230010.GA71168@tao.thought.org> References: <20030420184323.GA70819@tao.thought.org> <1050865589.9550.13.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1050865589.9550.13.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 16 years of service to the Unix community User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: evolution question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 23:00:22 -0000 On Sun, Apr 20, 2003 at 03:06:29PM -0400, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > On Sun, 2003-04-20 at 14:43, Gary D Kline wrote: > > On another FBSD server I installed evolution but cannot > > send mail. A popup reports that sendmail exited with > > status 71: mail not sent. Some test messages are saved > > in my evolution OUTBOX. > > Have you tried sending mail from another [simpler] app (e.g. pine)? > Yep. elm, mail[x], mutt still work. Hmmm! Letme check sendmail... --Okay, that was part of the problem. From my mailserver, the /var/spool/clientmqueue needed to be chmod'd. Now mail from evolution is starting to get across. Now the sendmail err is 67. This time I'll check in the sendmail src... . > > > > I used /var/mail/kline as mhy spool; sendmail for outgoing. > > The thing that gets me is tht on another internal server > > running RH, evolution seems to work fine. > > > > evolution prints errors to stderr on my xterm; if I am missing > > some gnome libraries, that may explain it. > > Indeed it might. > > > > > Can anybody clue me in here? Do I need to be running Gnome or > > KDE for this to work? (I'm using ctwm.) > > No. Evo will work without any WM. You just need to make sure all the > dependencies are there. > > > > > gary > > > > PS: NB: I'm missing (at least) libgmodule-2.0.so.0 on this > > server. Lots of cleanup to do here, so am trying it/evolution > > on my DNS and mail server. > > Okay, sounds like you need to do a portupgrade -fR evolution. This will > sync all your Evo libraries, and might solve your problem. It will > definitely solve the missing library issues. Note, libgmodule-2.0.so.0 > is old. The correct, current version is libgmodule-2.0.so.200. > Thanks for the advice. I'll try and see what happens. ``.200''?? Wow, I'm severely torqued here:-) gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 20 16:01:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A99ED37B401 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 16:01:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pop015.verizon.net (pop015pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.172]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38E2743FDD for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 16:01:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.org) Received: from keyslapper.org ([68.160.24.154]) by pop015.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.33 201-253-122-126-133-20030313) with ESMTP id <20030420230118.VLIY6016.pop015.verizon.net@keyslapper.org> for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 18:01:18 -0500 Received: from keyslapper.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keyslapper.org (8.12.8p1/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h3KN1Lso019242 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 19:01:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.org) Received: (from leblanc@localhost) by keyslapper.org (8.12.8p1/8.12.8/Submit) id h3KN1LnZ019241 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 19:01:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 19:01:21 -0400 From: Louis LeBlanc To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20030420230121.GN59280@keyslapper.org> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=unknown-8bit Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at pop015.verizon.net from [68.160.24.154] at Sun, 20 Apr 2003 18:01:18 -0500 Subject: Apache 2.0 and Tomcat 4.1 - looking for a more relevant mailing list X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 23:01:20 -0000 Hey all. I'm probably not seeing something in front of my face, but I've just spent over an hour on the Jakarta site, trying to find out how to join the mailing list for Jakarta-Tomcat users. I'm having a real tough time getting 4.1 to work with Apache 2.0.45. (both from the ports on FreeBSD 4.8). My initial goal is to simply have a server that will allow me to run JSP pages while leaving my normal Apache web service intact. Such as it is, anyway. Anyway, there is all kinds of great info on the Apache sites about how to behave on the mailing list, but not a single bit of info on how to join it. Does anyone know if such a list even exists? I can't imagine it doesn't, after all, Tomcat is out to release 5. If there is no list, any other suggestions on current, clear, and complete information about setting up Apache 2.0 and Tomcat 4.1 to handle JSP pages would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance Lou -- Louis LeBlanc leblanc@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org 篤萄 Maintainer's Motto: If we can't fix it, it ain't broke. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 20 16:06:26 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32FC537B401 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 16:06:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (imap.gmx.net [213.165.65.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AD23F43FE3 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 16:06:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kitsune@gmx.co.uk) Received: (qmail 26299 invoked by uid 65534); 20 Apr 2003 23:06:23 -0000 Received: from ip68-109-49-234.lu.dl.cox.net (EHLO fortytwo.) (68.109.49.234) by mail.gmx.net (mp004-rz3) with SMTP; 21 Apr 2003 01:06:23 +0200 Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 19:05:57 -0500 From: kitsune To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20030421190557.7c0114f0.kitsune@gmx.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <01da01c30790$a25e9b20$0100a8c0@ibac> References: <01da01c30790$a25e9b20$0100a8c0@ibac> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.2claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.7) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: ibac@prodigy.net.mx Subject: Re: How can I know if Lynx is installed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 23:06:26 -0000 On Sun, 20 Apr 2003 18:00:27 -0500 Alfonso Romero wrote: > I installed the Lynx package from ftp.freebsd.org. I exited sysinstall and typed lynx, but it gives me the "Command not found" message. I큟 running as root. How can I know if some package is installed, like Lynx, for example? > > Thanks in advance, Not sure about other shells, but in csh ye have to type 'source ~/.cshrc'... What source does is load a config file for a shell... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 20 16:14:56 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AFA937B401 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 16:14:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.prodigy.net.mx (dup-148-235-168-30.prodigy.net.mx [148.235.168.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEBD643FB1 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 16:14:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ibac@prodigy.net.mx) Received: from pc1 (du-200-67-41-56.prodigy.net.mx [200.67.41.56]) sims.4.0.2001.07.26.11.50.p9) with SMTP id <0HDO00LLM0IRC4@SMTP.Prodigy.Net.mx>; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 18:13:41 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 18:15:09 -0500 From: Alfonso Romero To: freebsd-questions , kitsune Message-id: <01e201c30792$b06785e0$0100a8c0@ibac> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <01da01c30790$a25e9b20$0100a8c0@ibac> <20030421190557.7c0114f0.kitsune@gmx.co.uk> Subject: Re: How can I know if Lynx is installed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 23:14:56 -0000 I discovered I had to exit first and then log on again so the installed package could work. But isn큧 there a way to know if some package is installed using ls, for example? ----- Original Message ----- From: "kitsune" To: Cc: Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 7:05 PM Subject: Re: How can I know if Lynx is installed? > On Sun, 20 Apr 2003 18:00:27 -0500 > Alfonso Romero wrote: > > > I installed the Lynx package from ftp.freebsd.org. I exited sysinstall and typed lynx, but it gives me the "Command not found" message. I큟 running as root. How can I know if some package is installed, like Lynx, for example? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > Not sure about other shells, but in csh ye have to type 'source ~/.cshrc'... > > What source does is load a config file for a shell... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 20 16:16:00 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D45637B405 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 16:16:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp0.adl1.internode.on.net (smtp0.adl1.internode.on.net [203.16.214.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C03D43F93 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 16:15:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Malcolm.Kay@internode.on.net) Received: from beta.home (ppp1831.sa.padsl.internode.on.net [150.101.26.38]) h3KNFqZe040597; Mon, 21 Apr 2003 08:45:57 +0930 (CST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Malcolm Kay Organization: At home To: Alfonso Romero , freebsd-questions Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 08:52:03 +0930 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 References: <01da01c30790$a25e9b20$0100a8c0@ibac> In-Reply-To: <01da01c30790$a25e9b20$0100a8c0@ibac> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200304210852.03226.Malcolm.Kay@internode.on.net> Subject: Re: How can I know if Lynx is installed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 23:16:00 -0000 On Mon, 21 Apr 2003 08:30, Alfonso Romero wrote: > I installed the Lynx package from ftp.freebsd.org. I exited sysinstall = and > typed lynx, but it gives me the "Command not found" message. I=B4m runn= ing as > root. How can I know if some package is installed, like Lynx, for examp= le? > Try: $ rehash $ lynx With csh or tcsh you need rehash after (almost) any new installation. Malcolm Kay From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 20 16:37:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8803B37B401 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 16:37:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rain.CC.Lehigh.EDU (rain.CC.Lehigh.EDU [128.180.39.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6EA343F85 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 16:37:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pat2@lehigh.edu) Received: from lehigh.edu (r075030.res.Lehigh.EDU [128.180.75.30]) by rain.CC.Lehigh.EDU (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h3KNaxd4029189 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT); Sun, 20 Apr 2003 19:36:59 -0400 Message-ID: <3EA32F05.1080502@lehigh.edu> Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 19:36:37 -0400 From: Paul Tsai User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20030324 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kitsune References: <01da01c30790$a25e9b20$0100a8c0@ibac> <20030421190557.7c0114f0.kitsune@gmx.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20030421190557.7c0114f0.kitsune@gmx.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: ibac@prodigy.net.mx cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How can I know if Lynx is installed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 23:37:03 -0000 for packages isn't the command pkg_info which lists everything, you may want to grep and or use scroll lock to toggle up and down scrolling. Paul kitsune wrote: >On Sun, 20 Apr 2003 18:00:27 -0500 >Alfonso Romero wrote: > > > >>I installed the Lynx package from ftp.freebsd.org. I exited sysinstall and typed lynx, but it gives me the "Command not found" message. I큟 running as root. How can I know if some package is installed, like Lynx, for example? >> >>Thanks in advance, >> >> > >Not sure about other shells, but in csh ye have to type 'source ~/.cshrc'... > >What source does is load a config file for a shell... >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 20 16:44:23 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C247F37B40F for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 16:44:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blueyonder.co.uk (pcow053o.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.53.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F37CE43FDF for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 16:44:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jfm@blueyonder.co.uk) Received: from lexx ([62.31.198.203]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Mon, 21 Apr 2003 00:46:53 +0100 From: John Murphy To: Alfonso Romero Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 00:44:18 +0100 Message-ID: References: <01da01c30790$a25e9b20$0100a8c0@ibac> <20030421190557.7c0114f0.kitsune@gmx.co.uk> <01e201c30792$b06785e0$0100a8c0@ibac> In-Reply-To: <01e201c30792$b06785e0$0100a8c0@ibac> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.9/32.560 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How can I know if Lynx is installed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jfm@blueyonder.co.uk List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 23:44:24 -0000 Alfonso Romero wrote: >I discovered I had to exit first and then log on again so the installed >package could work. You didn't need to. 'rehash' would have done the necessary if you are using a C shell variant. >But isn=B4t there a way to know if some package is installed using ls, = for >example? eg. which lynx John. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 20 16:53:15 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAF0637B40A for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 16:53:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp0.adl1.internode.on.net (smtp0.adl1.internode.on.net [203.16.214.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5ECD43F75 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 16:53:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Malcolm.Kay@internode.on.net) Received: from beta.home (ppp1831.sa.padsl.internode.on.net [150.101.26.38]) h3KNr5Ze045466; Mon, 21 Apr 2003 09:23:05 +0930 (CST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Malcolm Kay Organization: At home To: jfm@blueyonder.co.uk, Alfonso Romero Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 09:29:16 +0930 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 References: <01da01c30790$a25e9b20$0100a8c0@ibac> <01e201c30792$b06785e0$0100a8c0@ibac> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200304210929.16137.Malcolm.Kay@internode.on.net> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How can I know if Lynx is installed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 23:53:15 -0000 On Mon, 21 Apr 2003 09:14, John Murphy wrote: > Alfonso Romero wrote: > >I discovered I had to exit first and then log on again so the installe= d > >package could work. > > You didn't need to. 'rehash' would have done the necessary if you are > using a C shell variant. > > >But isn=B4t there a way to know if some package is installed using ls,= for > >example? > > eg. > which lynx > I believe this also needs rehash to work -- so would not have helped with the original problem. Malcolm Kay From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 20 16:56:46 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DEB437B401 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 16:56:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.prodigy.net.mx (dfproxy01.prodigy.net.mx [148.235.168.56]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A446B43FB1 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 16:56:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ibac@prodigy.net.mx) Received: from pc1 (du-200-67-41-56.prodigy.net.mx [200.67.41.56]) sims.4.0.2001.07.26.11.50.p9) with SMTP id <0HDO007702GE9E@SMTP.Prodigy.Net.mx>; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 18:55:27 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 18:56:54 -0500 From: Alfonso Romero To: freebsd-questions , Malcolm Kay Message-id: <021d01c30798$85989a60$0100a8c0@ibac> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <01da01c30790$a25e9b20$0100a8c0@ibac> <01e201c30792$b06785e0$0100a8c0@ibac> <200304210929.16137.Malcolm.Kay@internode.on.net> Subject: Re: How can I know if Lynx is installed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 23:56:46 -0000 So rehash isn큧 included in the minimal installation? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Malcolm Kay" To: ; "Alfonso Romero" Cc: Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2003 6:59 PM Subject: Re: How can I know if Lynx is installed? On Mon, 21 Apr 2003 09:14, John Murphy wrote: > Alfonso Romero wrote: > >I discovered I had to exit first and then log on again so the installed > >package could work. > > You didn't need to. 'rehash' would have done the necessary if you are > using a C shell variant. > > >But isn큧 there a way to know if some package is installed using ls, for > >example? > > eg. > which lynx > I believe this also needs rehash to work -- so would not have helped with the original problem. Malcolm Kay From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 20 17:08:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 491C737B401 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 17:08:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp0.adl1.internode.on.net (smtp0.adl1.internode.on.net [203.16.214.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3623843FDD for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 17:08:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Malcolm.Kay@internode.on.net) Received: from beta.home (ppp1831.sa.padsl.internode.on.net [150.101.26.38]) h3L086Ze047447; Mon, 21 Apr 2003 09:38:07 +0930 (CST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Malcolm Kay Organization: At home To: Alfonso Romero , freebsd-questions Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 09:44:17 +0930 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 References: <01da01c30790$a25e9b20$0100a8c0@ibac> <200304210929.16137.Malcolm.Kay@internode.on.net> <021d01c30798$85989a60$0100a8c0@ibac> In-Reply-To: <021d01c30798$85989a60$0100a8c0@ibac> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200304210944.17323.Malcolm.Kay@internode.on.net> Subject: Re: How can I know if Lynx is installed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 00:08:10 -0000 On Mon, 21 Apr 2003 09:26, Alfonso Romero wrote: > So rehash isn=B4t included in the minimal installation? > Sorry; I obviously did not make my meaning clear. rehash is a builtin of the shell. But you need to execute rehash after intallation of lynx for 'which lynx' to report a useful result. Malcolm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 20 17:22:01 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C01DA37B401 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 17:22:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cwe.compwest.com.au (compwest.com.au [202.72.147.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 471DE43FBD for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 17:22:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paul@compwest.com.au) Received: from wks (ant.parkview.compwest.com.au [202.72.147.43]) by cwe.compwest.com.au (8.12.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h3L0LooK066984; Mon, 21 Apr 2003 08:21:56 +0800 (WST) (envelope-from paul@compwest.com.au) From: "Paul Hamilton" To: "Alfonso Romero" , "freebsd-questions" Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 08:22:35 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <01da01c30790$a25e9b20$0100a8c0@ibac> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: How can I know if Lynx is installed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 00:22:02 -0000 You could (besides trying rehash), run: pkg_info -L This will then list out the locations of the installed package files. You could then verify the files have been installed. Cheers, Paul Hamilton -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Alfonso Romero Sent: Monday, 21 April 2003 7:00 AM To: freebsd-questions Subject: How can I know if Lynx is installed? I installed the Lynx package from ftp.freebsd.org. I exited sysinstall and typed lynx, but it gives me the "Command not found" message. I큟 running as root. How can I know if some package is installed, like Lynx, for example? Thanks in advance, Alfonso Romero _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 20 17:29:40 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B44337B401 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 17:29:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web11208.mail.yahoo.com (web11208.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.190]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BD12543FE5 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 17:29:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yutaka82@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20030421002938.1430.qmail@web11208.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [67.122.166.125] by web11208.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 17:29:38 PDT Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 17:29:38 -0700 (PDT) From: yew chin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: freebsd power off automatically X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 00:29:40 -0000 hello, My name is Chin. I try to turn off freebsd automatically after the command "shutdown -p now" or "halt -p" but after the systerm halt, freebsd won't turn the machine's power off. i have to turn off the power manually. i have read some article about adding apm support in the freebsd kernel. But isn't freebsd default kernel has come with apm enable? or do i have to enable it manually? thanks for reading and reply __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo http://search.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 20 18:29:36 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67A6937B401 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 18:29:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.prodigy.net.mx (dfproxy06.prodigy.net.mx [148.235.168.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EBE24400D for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 18:28:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ibac@prodigy.net.mx) Received: from pc1 (du-200-67-41-56.prodigy.net.mx [200.67.41.56]) sims.4.0.2001.07.26.11.50.p9) with SMTP id <0HDO00KBZ6OXTU@SMTP.Prodigy.Net.mx>; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 20:26:59 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 20:28:24 -0500 From: Alfonso Romero To: freebsd-questions Message-id: <023401c307a5$4dbc7320$0100a8c0@ibac> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: problem with apache-2.0.44 package X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 01:29:36 -0000 I installed the apache 2.0 package with sysinstall. I tried to start the = apache server, but the following message appears at httpd-error.log: (EAI) No address associated with hostname: mod_unique_id: unable to find = IPv4 address of "franky.ibac" I used the IP address of my local network in the httpd.conf file, and = followed the instructions in the apache site. Any suggestions? BTW, why are the installation directories in freeBSD different from what = the apache web site shows? Thanks in advance Alfonso Romero From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 20 18:33:38 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B6A737B401 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 18:33:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from inton.ninja-assassin.com (ninja-assassin.com [198.78.65.149]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26B7043FE5 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 18:32:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from static@ninja-assassin.com) Received: from localhost (inton [198.78.65.149]) by inton.ninja-assassin.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BA054639B for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 18:30:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 18:30:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Static To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030420182438.P58251@inton.Ninja-assassin.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Problems with the new Pine Port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 01:33:38 -0000 Hello freebsders, quick question for those with Pine-Fu I recently installed pine 4.55 from ports and mail is no longer being taken from my INBOX path and transfered to ~/mbox. I uninstalled reinstalled pine and this did nothing. All of the U of Wash's documents state that pine uses c-client's drivers to for the type of action I'm looking for. I uninstalled cclinet (/usr/ports/mail/cclient) and attempted to recompile pine I didn't see pine attempt to look for c-client. Looking in pine's documentation I found the "disable-these-drivers" section that can be entered in the ~./pinerc to turn the mbox function off, but is there a way to directly turn this on? pine -h, googling and searching UW"s website did not turn up any information. Thank you list Static From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 20 18:50:09 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 598D137B401; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 18:50:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org (nezlok.unixathome.org [66.228.215.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9980143FE1; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 18:47:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@nezlok.unixathome.org) Received: by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7C3C8AE58E; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 00:10:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20030420071001.7C3C8AE58E@nezlok.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 00:10:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2003-03-30 - 2003-04-19 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 01:50:09 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. This message is posted weekly to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with the aim of letting people know what's available on the website. Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . These are the articles posted during this period: 11-Apr : Using foo+bar@ email addresses with Postfix and procmail This is easy to do, but hard to find the info http://freebsddiary.org/procmail-foo+bar-addresses.php?2 1-Apr : FreeBSD/NetBSD to merge It's about time! http://freebsddiary.org/fretbsd.php?2 10-Mar : Home networks are everywhere Creating one from scratch can be fun http://freebsddiary.org/wap.php?2 -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited The FreeBSD Diary - http://www.FreeBSDDiary.org/ - practical examples FreshPorts - http://www.FreshPorts.org/ - the place for ports FreshSource - http://www.FreshSource.org/ - the place for source From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 20 18:59:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76AA137B401 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 18:59:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [204.213.64.2] (firewall.tiadon.com [204.213.64.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35FF844003 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 18:59:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from rmc.tiadon.com by [204.213.64.2] ESMTP; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 20:59:09 -0500 Received: from applications.tiadon.com (mail.tiadon.com [172.16.18.172]) by bcec01.tiadon.net with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id H2LVDP15; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 20:59:07 -0500 Received: from firewall.tiadon.com ([204.213.65.4]) by applications.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.197.19); Sun, 20 Apr 2003 20:59:07 -0500 Received: from [204.213.65.4] by firewall.tiadon.com via smtpd (for mail.tiadon.com [172.16.18.172]) with ESMTP; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 20:59:05 -0500 Message-ID: <015801c307a9$282a3cb0$fa00a8c0@DaleCoportable> From: "Kevin Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." To: "Alfonso Romero" , "freebsd-questions" , "Malcolm Kay" References: <01da01c30790$a25e9b20$0100a8c0@ibac> <01e201c30792$b06785e0$0100a8c0@ibac> <200304210929.16137.Malcolm.Kay@internode.on.net> <021d01c30798$85989a60$0100a8c0@ibac> Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 20:55:33 -0500 Organization: DaleCo, S.P.---"the solutions people" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: Re: How can I know if Lynx is installed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Kevin Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 01:59:10 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alfonso Romero" To: "freebsd-questions" ; "Malcolm Kay" Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2003 6:56 PM Subject: Re: How can I know if Lynx is installed? >So rehash isn큧 included in the minimal installation? Rehash is part of the csh and tcsh (shells). The shell can't find newly installed software until you run it, or log out/in again, as you did. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 20 19:13:37 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 100EA37B401 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 19:13:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pimout2-ext.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E88B43FCB for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 19:13:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dankives@cats.ucsc.edu) Received: from cats.ucsc.edu (adsl-67-113-28-85.snfc21.pacbell.net [67.113.28.85] (may be forged))h3L2DY28164118 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2003 22:13:34 -0400 Sender: dankives@pimout2-ext.prodigy.net Message-ID: <3EA353D2.385ABC30@cats.ucsc.edu> Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 19:13:38 -0700 From: Daniel Kives X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: My sound doesn't work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 02:13:37 -0000 Hello, I sent this question earlier, but at the time, my email wasn't working, so if there was a reply, I didn't get it. Sorry, if you did reply to this question earlier, I'd appreciate if you could do so again. Sorry. Thank you for your patience. My sound doesn't work. I've been searching around google, I've tried different things still no sound. This is some of my info. I have a Sound Blaster Live with Digital Audio Output. I read the handbook, and tried to follow the page about setting up the Sound Card. I added device pcm to my kernel. Then I rebuilt the kernel. Here's my output, and it seems my computer recognizes the device. grep pcm /var/run/dmesg.boot pcm0: port 0xeec0-0xeedf irq 9 at device 9.0 on pci0 pcm0: Then I ran cd /dev sh MAKEDEV snd0 I cd to my /dev directory and did an ls -la to all the device nodes the handbook says I should have: here's the output. /dev#ls -la audio lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 6 Apr 14 18:03 audio -> audio0 /dev#ls -la dsp lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 4 Apr 14 18:03 dsp -> dsp0 /dev#ls -la dspW lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 5 Apr 14 18:03 dspW -> dspW0 /dev#ls -la midi ls: midi: No such file or directory /dev#ls -la mixer lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 6 Apr 14 18:03 mixer -> mixer0 /dev#ls -la music lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 6 Apr 14 18:03 music -> music0 /dev#ls -la sequencer lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 10 Apr 14 18:03 sequencer -> sequencer0 /dev#ls -la pss lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 4 Apr 14 18:03 pss -> pss0 I noticed, it didn't create a midi device node, this might be my problem. I noticed other people had this problem, though I found no solutions for it. Here's some more output, hopefully this helps someone.. I hope I gave enough information, and any suggestions or replies would be appreciated. cat /dev/sndstat FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) Installed devices: pcm0: at io 0xeec0 irq 9 (4p/2r/0v channels duplex) dmesg cal[2831]: fatal: open database /etc/aliases.db: No such file or directory Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `vnlru' to stop...stopped Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `bufdaemon' to stop...stopped Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `syncer' to stop...stopped syncing disks... 1 done Uptime: 2h36m18s Rebooting... Copyright (c) 1992-2003 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.8-PRERELEASE #3: Mon Mar 31 21:30:28 PST 2003 dankives@192.168.1.102:/usr/src/sys/compile/MYKERNEL Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor (1001.78-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x642 Stepping = 2 Features=0x183f9ff AMD Features=0xc0440000 real memory = 335413248 (327552K bytes) avail memory = 320344064 (312836K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc057f000. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled md0: Malloc disk Using $PIR table, 8 entries at 0xc00f4fc0 apm0: on motherboard apm0: found APM BIOS v1.2, connected at v1.2 npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at 0.0 irq 11 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xffa0-0xffaf at device 7.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 uhci0: port 0xef40-0xef5f irq 10 at device 7.2 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0xef80-0xef9f irq 10 at device 7.3 on pci0 usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered pci0: (vendor=0x1106, dev=0x3057) at 7.4 pcm0: port 0xeec0-0xeedf irq 9 at device 9.0 on pci0 pcm0: atapci1: port 0xef00-0xef3f,0xefa8-0xefab,0xefa0-0xefa7,0xefac-0xefaf,0xefe0-0xefe7 mem 0xfebe0000-0xfebfffff irq 10 at device 10.0 on pci0 ata2: at 0xefe0 on atapci1 ata3: at 0xefa0 on atapci1 xl0: <3Com 3c905C-TX Fast Etherlink XL> port 0xec00-0xec7f mem 0xfebcfc00-0xfebcfc7f irq 5 at device 12.0 on pci0 xl0: Ethernet address: 00:01:03:26:e5:35 miibus0: on xl0 xlphy0: <3c905C 10/100 internal PHY> on miibus0 xlphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto pci0: (vendor=0x14e4, dev=0x4211) at 13.0 irq 9 pci0: (vendor=0x14e4, dev=0x4212) at 13.1 irq 9 orm0:
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Bingo http://search.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 07:45:54 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EDF637B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 07:45:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web9603.mail.yahoo.com (web9603.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.129.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E8D7F43FBF for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 07:45:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chancedj@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20030422144553.17214.qmail@web9603.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.72.4.147] by web9603.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 07:45:53 PDT Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 07:45:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Daryl Chance To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Serial Console Question (re-sent w/ subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: chancedj@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:45:54 -0000 sorry about the double send, the first email I forgot the subject. Also removed sig. [I've sent this a couple times yesterday and once today, but I can't find it in the archives anywhere - could an admin check to see if the mailing software is rejecting my mail from stinkfist@tribalwar.com? I'm registered w/ the list at that address. I'm most definately receiving email from both questions and current(this on a different account)] I've searched the handbook and haven't found anything about this. I'm trying to setup a serial console for some remote machines i'm admining. I want to set it up using null modem cables, as it says in the handbook like so: www:s1 - sql:s2 www:s2 - mail:s1 sql:s1 - mail:s2 >From what i've read it needs a dumb terminal? Is it possible to do it without using this and only setting it up with the null modem cables and nothing else? I assume this is possible, but the documentation doesn't seem to say anything about using only the cables and nothing more. 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Bingo http://search.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 07:46:39 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 486C737B405 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 07:46:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pa-plum1b-166.pit.adelphia.net (pa-plum1b-122.pit.adelphia.net [24.53.161.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71C0343FD7 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 07:46:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from potentialtech.com (working [172.16.0.95]) h3MEkbwl002821; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 10:46:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Message-ID: <3EA555CD.1040508@potentialtech.com> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 10:46:37 -0400 From: Bill Moran User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20030301 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: beemern@ksu.edu References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: linux/freebsd kernel differences X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:46:39 -0000 beemern@ksu.edu wrote: > theres an argument here in our office about linux vs. freebsd > > we're building a new nfs server for our entire dept, and i suggested using > fbsd, however, an opponent put forth linux and said that: > > "there is no difference between linux and freebsd kernels, except that > linux has much better driver support.. WHY use obscure freebsd?" Just smack this guy. His argument is completely pointless. What does "driver support" get you? You're ordering the machine, right? Then only order hardware that is supported. You need to start out by pointing out that this guy is arguing with no ammo himself. The "obscure" argument can be defeated by showing the number of big companies that use FreeBSD, companies such as yahoo, pair.net, etc. Also, by claiming "there is no difference between the Linux and FreeBSD kernels" your opponent is basically saying "I don't know what I'm talking about". For better or worse, there are tons of differences between the two kernels. You could just start perusing the code and pointing out differences and debunk the guy. > anyone got any ammo i can use here? i'd really rather use fbsd since i'm > much more familar with it and its never let me down (except in the area of > native java support), and i believe it'd be perfect for our nfs box > > but i'll need some good concrete evidence to make my case.. You could do some searching on the NFS exploit that Linux had a short while back that FreeBSD never had. -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 07:48:30 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C15737B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 07:48:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nagual.st (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [217.120.160.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C26643FB1 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 07:48:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.st) Received: from pooh.nagual.st (localhost.nagual.st [127.0.0.1]) by nagual.st (8.12.8p1/8.12.8/torin) with ESMTP id h3MEmLZc000376 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 16:48:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from dick@pooh.nagual.st) Received: (from dick@localhost) by pooh.nagual.st (8.12.8p1/8.12.8/Submit) id h3MEmLIn000375 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 16:48:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from dick) From: Dick Hoogendijk Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 16:48:21 +0200 To: freebsd-questions Message-ID: <20030422144821.GA359@pooh.nagual.st> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: mount_msdos X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:48:30 -0000 Will mount_msdos mount a fat32 partition (win98se)? I can't find the fat32 option in the handbook, nor in the LINT file but I'm sure FreeBSD supports win98se fat32 filsystems. So, am I right to suppose fat32 is "msdos" for fbsd? -- dick -- http://www.nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 4.8 ++ Debian GNU/Linux (Woody) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 07:51:42 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A26037B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 07:51:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.svenskabutiker.se (ns.svenskabutiker.se [212.247.101.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFE1143FDF for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 07:51:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from martin@mullet.se) Received: from mullet.se (h118n1fls31o985.telia.com [213.65.16.118]) by mail.svenskabutiker.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 797351F02; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 16:51:40 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3EA5572C.2060405@mullet.se> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 16:52:28 +0200 From: Martin Nilsson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030312 X-Accept-Language: sv, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: beemern@ksu.edu References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: linux/freebsd kernel differences X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:51:42 -0000 beemern@ksu.edu wrote: > we're building a new nfs server for our entire dept, and i suggested using > fbsd, however, an opponent put forth linux and said that: The NFS implementation in FreeBSD is regarded to be better if your clients are not only Linux boxes. > "there is no difference between linux and freebsd kernels, except that > linux has much better driver support.. WHY use obscure freebsd?" That is complete BS, the kernels are not similar at all. And besides that, what better driver are there in Linux that you actually need for the NFS server? Linux have better drivers for things like scanners, cameras, joysticks etc. The drivers in FreeBSD for sever thingies are top-notch. Just be careful with which machine you buy. I recommend buying from a dealer that knows about the OS you are going to run on the box so you get a system with components that know to perform well for your intended use. > anyone got any ammo i can use here? i'd really rather use fbsd since i'm > much more familar with it and its never let me down If you are the one that is going to take care of the box the above is your best ammo. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 08:01:17 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5AD737B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 08:01:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web20704.mail.yahoo.com (web20704.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.177]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5149D43F85 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 08:01:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsdude@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20030422150115.700.qmail@web20704.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [160.79.175.120] by web20704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 08:01:15 PDT Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 08:01:15 -0700 (PDT) From: clay spencer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: adding second network card X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 15:01:18 -0000 I installed a second 3Com Etherlink 3 card in a new 5.0 FreeBSD box. Both of these devices should be using the vortex device I believe(vx0 vx1 etc.) I have added the following to /etc/rc.conf: network_interfaces="lo0 vx0 vx1"ifconfig_vx0="inet 10.0.0.79 netmask 255.255.255.0"ifconfig_vx0="inet 10.0.0.80 netmask 255.255.255.0" and rebooted. On the console during boot I see the error: "ifconfig: interface vx1 does not exist" In my kernel config file for this kernel all ethernet devices are enabled. I have tried to "ifconfig vx1 create" type of command and still recieve the same message. I believe this is similar to Solaris "ifconfig plumb" argument. Can somebody help with what I might have overlooked. I do see link light on the card itself so I know its no a card issue per se'.Thanks in advance --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 08:13:01 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9686F37B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 08:13:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from westhost10.westhost.net (westhost10.westhost.net [216.71.84.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3DC643F3F for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 08:13:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from william@palfreman.com) Received: from localhost (palfreman@localhost) by westhost10.westhost.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h3MFCxX16906 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 10:12:59 -0500 Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 10:12:59 -0500 (CDT) From: William Palfreman X-X-Sender: palfreman@westhost10.westhost.net To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Unexpected Samba printing problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 15:13:02 -0000 I've been print from Unix clients via lpd and from W2k clients via samba-2.2.8a, for ages without problem. Then very recently the windows clients stopped being able to connect - an error message when they try to use the existing printer, and a blank box when they look in the printers folder for the samba server. All through this period windows clients have been able to access samba shares to read and write, and still can. The only thing that I have changed recently is the DNS domain used by some machines. I've also started using IPv6, but I don't se wh that should make any difference. This was the log messages originally. When I saw this I started cupsd, but I was surprised to need to, considering I had never needed to before and AFAIK it wasn't meant to start, & printing was via lpd: Apr 22 12:50:09 ledger smbd[270]: [2003/04/22 12:50:09, 0] printing/print_cups .c:cups_printername_ok(336) Apr 22 12:50:09 ledger smbd[270]: Unable to connect to CUPS server localhost - Connection refused Apr 22 12:50:09 ledger smbd[270]: [2003/04/22 12:50:09, 0] smbd/service.c:make_connection(252) Apr 22 12:50:09 ledger smbd[270]: dune (10.23.90.16) couldn't find service ::{2227a280-3aea-1069-a2de-08002b30309d} This was the log messages after starting cupsd - the same, but without a useless attempt to constact cupsd. At the moment I think the problem might be to do with a with the service name, but I don't see why it should change in a way that breaks it entirely, so printers are invisible to W2k clients. Apr 22 12:46:24 ledger smbd[270]: [2003/04/22 12:46:24, 0] printing/print_cups .c:cups_printername_ok(388) Apr 22 12:46:24 ledger smbd[270]: Unable to get printer status for ::{2227a280-3aea-1069-a2de-08002b30309d} - client-error-not-found Apr 22 12:46:24 ledger smbd[270]: [2003/04/22 12:46:24, 0] smbd/service.c:make_connection(252) Apr 22 12:46:24 ledger smbd[270]: dune (10.23.90.16) couldn't find service ::{2227a280-3aea-1069-a2de-08002b30309d} Can anyone offer any guidence? This problem doesn't seem to go away when either the server has process restart or is rebooted, nor does rebooting the clients make and differnce - the printer is now invisible. Thanks, Bill. (below is a copy of my smb.conf) # This is the main Samba configuration file. You should read the # smb.conf(5) manual page in order to understand the options listed # here. Samba has a huge number of configurable options (perhaps too # many!) most of which are not shown in this example # # Any line which starts with a ; (semi-colon) or a # (hash) # is a comment and is ignored. In this example we will use a # # for commentry and a ; for parts of the config file that you # may wish to enable # # NOTE: Whenever you modify this file you should run the command "testparm" # to check that you have not many any basic syntactic errors. # #======================= Global Settings ===================================== [global] # workgroup = NT-Domain-Name or Workgroup-Name, eg: REDHAT4 workgroup = WORKGROUP # server string is the equivalent of the NT Description field server string = Samba Server for printer # This option is important for security. It allows you to restrict # connections to machines which are on your local network. The # following example restricts access to two C class networks and # the "loopback" interface. For more examples of the syntax see # the smb.conf man page ; hosts allow = 192.168.1. 192.168.2. 127. hosts allow = 127. 10.23.90.0/255.255.255.192 # If you want to automatically load your printer list rather # than setting them up individually then you'll need this load printers = yes # you may wish to override the location of the printcap file ; printcap name = /etc/printcap # on SystemV system setting printcap name to lpstat should allow # you to automatically obtain a printer list from the SystemV spool # system ; printcap name = lpstat # It should not be necessary to specify the print system type unless # it is non-standard. Currently supported print systems include: # bsd, sysv, plp, lprng, aix, hpux, qnx ; printing = bsd # Uncomment this if you want a guest account, you must add this to /etc/passwd # otherwise the user "nobody" is used guest account = pcguest map to guest = bad user # this tells Samba to use a separate log file for each machine # that connects log file = /var/log/log.%m # Put a capping on the size of the log files (in Kb). max log size = 50 # Security mode. Most people will want user level security. See # security_level.txt for details. security = user # Use password server option only with security = server # The argument list may include: # password server = My_PDC_Name [My_BDC_Name] [My_Next_BDC_Name] # or to auto-locate the domain controller/s # password server = * ; password server = # Note: Do NOT use the now deprecated option of "domain controller" # This option is no longer implemented. # You may wish to use password encryption. Please read # ENCRYPTION.txt, Win95.txt and WinNT.txt in the Samba documentation. # Do not enable this option unless you have read those documents encrypt passwords = yes # Using the following line enables you to customise your configuration # on a per machine basis. The %m gets replaced with the netbios name # of the machine that is connecting ; include = /usr/local/etc/smb.conf.%m # Most people will find that this option gives better performance. # See speed.txt and the manual pages for details # You may want to add the following on a Linux system: # SO_RCVBUF=8192 SO_SNDBUF=8192 socket options = TCP_NODELAY # Configure Samba to use multiple interfaces # If you have multiple network interfaces then you must list them # here. See the man page for details. ; interfaces = 192.168.12.2/24 192.168.13.2/24 # Browser Control Options: # set local master to no if you don't want Samba to become a master # browser on your network. Otherwise the normal election rules apply ; local master = no # OS Level determines the precedence of this server in master browser # elections. The default value should be reasonable ; os level = 33 # Domain Master specifies Samba to be the Domain Master Browser. This # allows Samba to collate browse lists between subnets. Don't use this # if you already have a Windows NT domain controller doing this job domain master = yes # Preferred Master causes Samba to force a local browser election on startup # and gives it a slightly higher chance of winning the election preferred master = yes # Enable this if you want Samba to be a domain logon server for # Windows95 workstations. ; domain logons = yes # if you enable domain logons then you may want a per-machine or # per user logon script # run a specific logon batch file per workstation (machine) ; logon script = %m.bat # run a specific logon batch file per username ; logon script = %U.bat # Where to store roving profiles (only for Win95 and WinNT) # %L substitutes for this servers netbios name, %U is username # You must uncomment the [Profiles] share below ; logon path = \\%L\Profiles\%U # Windows Internet Name Serving Support Section: # WINS Support - Tells the NMBD component of Samba to enable it's WINS Server wins support = yes # WINS Server - Tells the NMBD components of Samba to be a WINS Client # Note: Samba can be either a WINS Server, or a WINS Client, but NOT both ; wins server = w.x.y.z # WINS Proxy - Tells Samba to answer name resolution queries on # behalf of a non WINS capable client, for this to work there must be # at least one WINS Server on the network. The default is NO. ; wins proxy = yes # DNS Proxy - tells Samba whether or not to try to resolve NetBIOS names # via DNS nslookups. The built-in default for versions 1.9.17 is yes, # this has been changed in version 1.9.18 to no. dns proxy = no # Client codepage settings # for Greek users ; client code page=737 # for European users (Latin 1) client code page=850 # for European users (Latin 2) ; client code page=852 # for Icelandic users ; client code page=861 # for Cyrillic users ; client code page=866 # for Japanese Users ; client code page=932 ; coding system=cap # for Simplified Chinese Users ; client code page=936 ; coding system=cap # for Korean Users ; client code page=949 ; coding system=cap # for Traditional Chinese Users ; client code page=950 ; coding system=cap #============================ Share Definitions ============================== [homes] comment = Home Directories browseable = no writeable = yes # Un-comment the following two lines to add a recycle bin facility to a samba share # NOTE: It currently doesn't work with the [homes] virtual share, use a regular share instead ; vfs object = /usr/local/lib/samba/recycle.so ; vfs options= recycle=.recycle # Un-comment the following and create the netlogon directory for Domain Logons ; [netlogon] ; comment = Network Logon Service ; path = /usr/local/samba/lib/netlogon ; guest ok = yes ; writeable = no ; share modes = no # Un-comment the following to provide a specific roving profile share # the default is to use the user's home directory ;[Profiles] ; path = /usr/local/samba/profiles ; browseable = no ; guest ok = yes # NOTE: If you have a BSD-style print system there is no need to # specifically define each individual printer [printers] comment = All Printers path = /var/spool/samba browseable = no # Set public = yes to allow user 'guest account' to print guest ok = yes writeable = no printable = yes public = yes # This one is useful for people to share files #[tmp] # comment = Temporary file space # path = /tmp # read only = no # public = yes # guest ok = yes # [Free Space] comment = Free space for general storage path = /usr2/home/FreeSpace read only = no public = yes guest ok = yes # A publicly accessible directory, but read only, except for people in # the "staff" group ;[public] ; comment = Public Stuff ; path = /home/samba ; public = yes ; writeable = yes ; printable = no ; write list = @staff # Other examples. # # A private printer, usable only by fred. Spool data will be placed in fred's # home directory. Note that fred must have write access to the spool directory, # wherever it is. ;[fredsprn] ; comment = Fred's Printer ; valid users = fred ; path = /homes/fred ; printer = freds_printer ; public = no ; writeable = no ; printable = yes # A private directory, usable only by fred. Note that fred requires write # access to the directory. ;[fredsdir] ; comment = Fred's Service ; path = /usr/somewhere/private ; valid users = fred ; public = no ; writeable = yes ; printable = no # a service which has a different directory for each machine that connects # this allows you to tailor configurations to incoming machines. You could # also use the %U option to tailor it by user name. # The %m gets replaced with the machine name that is connecting. ;[pchome] ; comment = PC Directories ; path = /usr/pc/%m ; public = no ; writeable = yes # A publicly accessible directory, read/write to all users. Note that all files # created in the directory by users will be owned by the default user, so # any user with access can delete any other user's files. Obviously this # directory must be writeable by the default user. Another user could of course # be specified, in which case all files would be owned by that user instead. ;[public] ; path = /usr/somewhere/else/public ; public = yes ; only guest = yes ; writeable = yes ; printable = no # Un-comment the following two lines to add a recycle bin facility to a samba share ; vfs object = /usr/local/lib/samba/recycle.so ; vfs options= recycle=.recycle # The following two entries demonstrate how to share a directory so that two # users can place files there that will be owned by the specific users. In this # setup, the directory should be writeable by both users and should have the # sticky bit set on it to prevent abuse. Obviously this could be extended to # as many users as required. ;[myshare] ; comment = Mary's and Fred's stuff ; path = /usr/somewhere/shared ; valid users = mary fred ; public = no ; writeable = yes ; printable = no ; create mask = 0765 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 08:15:47 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D00A637B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 08:15:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from webserver2.rtl.org (rtl-3.i2k.com [63.94.12.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E24B143F3F for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 08:15:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jstewart@rtl.org) Received: from [10.0.0.89] (rtl-2.i2k.com [63.94.12.206]) by webserver2.rtl.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h3MFEUj13885; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 11:14:30 -0400 From: Jason Stewart To: Dick Hoogendijk In-Reply-To: <20030422144821.GA359@pooh.nagual.st> References: <20030422144821.GA359@pooh.nagual.st> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 (1.0.8-11) Date: 22 Apr 2003 11:16:08 -0400 Message-Id: <1051024569.906.11.camel@mis3> Mime-Version: 1.0 cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: mount_msdos X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 15:15:48 -0000 On Tue, 2003-04-22 at 10:48, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: > Will mount_msdos mount a fat32 partition (win98se)? > I can't find the fat32 option in the handbook, nor in the LINT file but > I'm sure FreeBSD supports win98se fat32 filsystems. > So, am I right to suppose fat32 is "msdos" for fbsd? Yes, mount_msdos will handle fat32 long filnames. Jason Stewart From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 08:28:06 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D20D37B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 08:28:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from avocet.mail.pas.earthlink.net (avocet.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2EA043F85 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 08:28:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dusk@badseed.bytch.net) Received: from user-119adi7.biz.mindspring.com ([66.149.54.71] helo=badseed.bytch.net) by avocet.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 197zgi-0004it-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 08:28:05 -0700 Received: from localhost (dusk@localhost) by badseed.bytch.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id h3MFXba25813 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 11:33:37 -0400 Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 11:33:36 -0400 (EDT) From: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Unable to send email X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 15:28:06 -0000 I am running FreeBSD stable 4.7 and Sendmail 8.12.7. I am unable to send email. This is the error output: su-2.05$ collect: Cannot write ./dfh3MDwWTE001257 (bfcommit, uid=1001, gid=25): Permission denied queueup: cannot create queue temp file ./tfh3MDwWTE001257, uid=1001: Permission denied As you can see it is giving me a "permissions" error. I am not sure exactly how long this has been going on. I just noticed it yesterday. I double checked file and directory permissions and broke out the big bat book (O'Reilly's sendmail bible). I have not done much with the Sendmail install. I have created the access, virtual host files and edited the ailias file. When I built the sendmail.cf file I added two entries for dnsbl. At this point I am stuck. I hope that the answer is in front of me and just don't see it. I am sending this out to this list because it looks like my problem is not so much with sendmail as it is my system's permissions. Anybody got any ideas? I have included some ls -l output su-2.05$ ls -l /var/ drwxrwxrwt 2 root mail 512 Apr 22 11:05 mai drwxr-xr-x 10 root wheel 512 May 22 00:41 spoo su-2.05$ ls -l /var/spool/ drwxr-xr-x 2 root daemon 512 Apr 22 11:00 mqueue su-2.05$ ls -l /etc/ drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 1024 Apr 16 10:29 mail su-2.05$ ls -l /etc/mail -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 4491 Sep 18 2001 Makefile -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 840 Sep 18 2001 README -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 32383 Apr 16 09:21 access -rw-r----- 1 root wheel 57344 Apr 16 10:29 access.db -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 411 Sep 18 2001 access.sample -rwx------ 1 root wheel 167 Apr 16 09:33 access.sh -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2385 Apr 21 22:36 aliases -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 32768 Apr 21 22:36 aliases.db -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 58342 Apr 15 23:01 frank.cf -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 4472 Apr 15 23:01 frank.mc -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 46632 Sep 18 2001 freebsd.cf -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 46632 Apr 15 22:29 freebsd.cf-orig -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 4472 Apr 15 22:35 freebsd.mc -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 4267 Apr 15 22:13 freebsd.mc-orig -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 5573 Sep 18 2001 helpfile drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Apr 16 10:16 lists -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 389 Apr 16 09:48 local-host-names -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 316 Sep 18 2001 mailer.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 245 Sep 18 2001 mailertable.sample -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 416 Apr 16 09:36 relay-domains -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 58460 Apr 21 22:49 sendmail.cf -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 46632 Apr 15 23:02 sendmail.cf-orig -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 3062 Apr 16 09:42 virtusertable -rw-r----- 1 root wheel 32768 Apr 16 10:29 virtusertable.db -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 573 Sep 18 2001 virtusertable.sample -rwx------ 1 root wheel 193 Apr 16 10:29 virtusertable.sh dusk@bytch.net dusk@badseed.bytch.net "And so, it begins" - Kosh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 08:28:09 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E174437B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 08:28:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from catflap.home.slightlystrange.org (pc1-cmbg1-4-cust43.cmbg.cable.ntl.com [62.253.133.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A42E43FD7 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 08:28:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@slightlystrange.org) Received: from danielby by catflap.home.slightlystrange.org with local (Exim 3.36 #1) id 197zgf-0005NM-00 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 16:28:01 +0100 Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 16:28:01 +0100 From: Daniel Bye To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030422152801.GA17771@catflap.home.slightlystrange.org> Mail-Followup-To: questions@freebsd.org References: <20030422144553.17214.qmail@web9603.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030422144553.17214.qmail@web9603.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Scanner: exiscan *197zgf-0005NM-00*9wnaErdy5uw* (SlightlyStrange.org, Using NOD32 http://www.nod32.com) Subject: Re: Serial Console Question (re-sent w/ subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: dan@slightlystrange.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 15:28:10 -0000 On Tue, Apr 22, 2003 at 07:45:53AM -0700, Daryl Chance wrote: > I've searched the handbook and haven't found anything > about this. I'm trying to setup a serial console for > some remote machines i'm admining. I want to set it > up using null modem cables, as it says in the handbook > like so: > www:s1 - sql:s2 > www:s2 - mail:s1 > sql:s1 - mail:s2 > > >From what i've read it needs a dumb terminal? Is it > possible to do it without using this and only setting > it up with the null modem cables and nothing else? I > assume this is possible, but the documentation doesn't > seem to say anything about using only the cables and > nothing more. Yes, you can use just cables - I use a similar setup on my firewall box at home, without a dumb terminal in sight. You will need to use something like tip or cu to connect over the serial consoles. Check out http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/serialconsole-setup.html in the handbook for more details. Dan -- Daniel Bye PGP Key: ftp://ftp.slightlystrange.org/pgpkey/dan.asc PGP Key fingerprint: 3D73 AF47 D448 C5CA 88B4 0DCF 849C 1C33 3C48 2CDC _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML, vCards and X - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 08:30:58 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4554A37B40B for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 08:30:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linux.tsu.tula.ru (linux.tsu.tula.ru [62.76.50.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0AA243FD7 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 08:30:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Sergey_Zaikov@p66.f5.klax.tsu.tula.ru) Received: from ftn by linux.tsu.tula.ru with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 197zjR-0002oh-00 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 19:30:53 +0400 Received: from p66.f5.klax.tsu.tula.ru by p13.f5.klax.tsu.tula.ru with FTN (ifmail v.2.10.os) id AA10830; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 19:30:53 +0400 Apparently-To: Questions@freebsd.Org To: "Questions@freebsd.Org" From: Sergey Zaikov Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:00:08 +0400 Message-ID: <1051024696@p66.f5.n5022.z2.fidonet> Organization: 抽�淪p潭景槐� 憫��p墓죤턍� v.2.5 X-FTN-FLAGS: PVT K/S X-FTN-MSGID: 2:5022/5.66@fidonet 3ea55d38 X-FTN-PID: GED386 3.0.1-asa9 SR1 X-FTN-CHRS: IBMPC 2 X-FTN-Tearline: �戇掘炚個 (疏�-景-姸p좔�, 햜좌沓�� 饉卜) X-FTN-Origin: 抽�淪p潭景槐� 憫��p墓죤턍� v.2.5 (2:5022/5.66) X-FTN-Via: 2:5022/5.66@FidoNet @20030422.153827.UTC+4 T-Mail 2607.NT X-FTN-Via: 2:5022/5 FTrack 3.1/W32 22 Apr 2003 19:35:38 UTC+0300 Subject: the ps utility and cron X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 15:30:58 -0000 Hello, Questions@freebsd.Org!!! I have a question about a key -x from man ps(1). The reason of my question may be: misunderstanding man ps(1), errata at man ps(1) or error in ps utility. (My FreeBSD version: FreeBSD acc.acc.tula.ru 4.7-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE #38: Thu Mar 20 09:31:30 MSK 2003 acc107_3@acc.acc.tula.ru:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/Z i386) Man ps (1) says: [*SKIP*] -x Display information about processes without controlling termi- nals. [*SKIP*] A processes, started from cron, is processes without controlling terminals. (Or I samething don't understand:) So: $> ps -ax -U acc107_3 must diplays it and $>ps -a -U acc107_3 should don't displays this processes. I do easy test: I write at crontab: 0 11 * * * /bin/sleep 60 and wait for 11-00 time. At 11-00 I do: For user 'acc107_3': acc:/usr/export/acc107_3>ps -ax -U acc107_3 PID TT STAT TIME COMMAND 544 ?? Ss 0:00,00 /bin/sh -c /bin/sleep 60 545 ?? S 0:00,00 /bin/sleep 60 473 p0 Ss+ 0:00,12 -tcsh (tcsh) 474 p1 Rs 0:00,12 -tcsh (tcsh) 548 p1 R+ 0:00,00 ps -ax -U acc107_3 acc:/usr/export/acc107_3>ps -a -U acc107_3 PID TT STAT TIME COMMAND 544 ?? Ss 0:00,00 /bin/sh -c /bin/sleep 60 545 ?? S 0:00,00 /bin/sleep 60 473 p0 Ss+ 0:00,12 -tcsh (tcsh) 474 p1 Ss 0:00,12 -tcsh (tcsh) 549 p1 R+ 0:00,00 ps -a -U acc107_3 For user 'root': acc:/usr/export/acc107_3>ps -a -U acc107_3 PID TT STAT TIME COMMAND 544 ?? Is 0:00,00 /bin/sh -c /bin/sleep 60 545 ?? I 0:00,00 /bin/sleep 60 473 p0 Is+ 0:00,12 -tcsh (tcsh) 474 p1 Is+ 0:00,12 -tcsh (tcsh) 551 p2 Is 0:00,03 -tcsh (tcsh) acc:/usr/export/acc107_3>ps -ax -U acc107_3 PID TT STAT TIME COMMAND 544 ?? Is 0:00,00 /bin/sh -c /bin/sleep 60 545 ?? I 0:00,00 /bin/sleep 60 473 p0 Is+ 0:00,12 -tcsh (tcsh) 474 p1 Is+ 0:00,12 -tcsh (tcsh) 551 p2 Is 0:00,03 -tcsh (tcsh) At both cases, the processes, started by cron, always displays. Is it right? Thank you. Sergey. ... 歇죔�� - 戇驅� 훡좡衢턱适� 淪彿, 師� 탭� 壙 憫博p卦 켓쬔陸潼 �� 缺쫏하 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 08:49:16 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5919337B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 08:49:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from astarte.volker.de (p50891B7D.dip.t-dialin.net [80.137.27.125]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D43243F85 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 08:49:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@secspace.de) Received: from astarte.volker.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by astarte.volker.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h3MFnAeK041068 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 17:49:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@secspace.de) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 17:49:10 +0200 From: Volker Kindermann To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20030422174910.754dda23.freebsd@secspace.de> In-Reply-To: <20030422150115.700.qmail@web20704.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20030422150115.700.qmail@web20704.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.10claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.7) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: adding second network card X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 15:49:16 -0000 > I installed a second 3Com Etherlink 3 card in a new 5.0 FreeBSD box. > Both of these devices should be using the vortex device I believe(vx0 > vx1 etc.) I have added the following to /etc/rc.conf: > network_interfaces="lo0 vx0 vx1"ifconfig_vx0="inet 10.0.0.79 netmask > 255.255.255.0"ifconfig_vx0="inet 10.0.0.80 netmask 255.255.255.0" I think it's a typo that you use vx0 twice? > and > rebooted. On the console during boot I see the error: "ifconfig: > interface vx1 does not exist" Is the card recognized in dmesg-output? Please show us the corresponding dmesg. -volker From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 08:57:46 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 344E737B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 08:57:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web20707.mail.yahoo.com (web20707.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A157943F3F for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 08:57:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsdude@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20030422155745.33292.qmail@web20707.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [160.79.175.120] by web20707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 08:57:45 PDT Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 08:57:45 -0700 (PDT) From: clay spencer To: Volker Kindermann , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20030422174910.754dda23.freebsd@secspace.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Re: adding second network card X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 15:57:46 -0000 Volker yes sorry that is a typo. If I give the following command: ifconfig vx1 create I will recieve the error: ifconfig: SIOCIFCREATE: Invalid argument As far as dmesg goes. The only thing that is getting logged is a list of kernel interupts. I see all the other normal startup messages written to console and the 3/4 of the way through I see this big kernel interupt vector list scroll by but this was happening before I added the second care. These are the only things in /var/log/dmesg.today: *Handler Int 332 g_provider R *Handler Int 333 g_consumer R *Handler Int 334 g_bioq R *Handler Int 335 g_event R *Handler Int 371 vnode R *Handler Int 372 proc R *Handler Int 373 cdev R *Handler Int 374 bio R *Handler Int 375 buf R *Handler Int there are @ 900 or so lines containing similar entries this seems to be a seperate problme of course but it is impeding my troubleshooting of the NIC problem. If you have any ideas? Volker Kindermann wrote:> I installed a second 3Com Etherlink 3 card in a new 5.0 FreeBSD box. > Both of these devices should be using the vortex device I believe(vx0 > vx1 etc.) I have added the following to /etc/rc.conf: > network_interfaces="lo0 vx0 vx1"ifconfig_vx0="inet 10.0.0.79 netmask > 255.255.255.0"ifconfig_vx0="inet 10.0.0.80 netmask 255.255.255.0" I think it's a typo that you use vx0 twice? > and > rebooted. On the console during boot I see the error: "ifconfig: > interface vx1 does not exist" Is the card recognized in dmesg-output? Please show us the corresponding dmesg. -volker _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 08:58:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8922C37B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 08:58:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web20712.mail.yahoo.com (web20712.mail.yahoo.com [66.163.169.153]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1D95643FAF for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 08:58:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsdude@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20030422155804.11814.qmail@web20712.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [160.79.175.120] by web20712.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 08:58:04 PDT Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 08:58:04 -0700 (PDT) From: clay spencer To: Volker Kindermann , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20030422174910.754dda23.freebsd@secspace.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Re: adding second network card X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 15:58:05 -0000 Volker yes sorry that is a typo. If I give the following command: ifconfig vx1 create I will recieve the error: ifconfig: SIOCIFCREATE: Invalid argument As far as dmesg goes. The only thing that is getting logged is a list of kernel interupts. I see all the other normal startup messages written to console and the 3/4 of the way through I see this big kernel interupt vector list scroll by but this was happening before I added the second care. These are the only things in /var/log/dmesg.today: *Handler Int 332 g_provider R *Handler Int 333 g_consumer R *Handler Int 334 g_bioq R *Handler Int 335 g_event R *Handler Int 371 vnode R *Handler Int 372 proc R *Handler Int 373 cdev R *Handler Int 374 bio R *Handler Int 375 buf R *Handler Int there are @ 900 or so lines containing similar entries this seems to be a seperate problme of course but it is impeding my troubleshooting of the NIC problem. If you have any ideas? Thanks again Volker Kindermann wrote:> I installed a second 3Com Etherlink 3 card in a new 5.0 FreeBSD box. > Both of these devices should be using the vortex device I believe(vx0 > vx1 etc.) I have added the following to /etc/rc.conf: > network_interfaces="lo0 vx0 vx1"ifconfig_vx0="inet 10.0.0.79 netmask > 255.255.255.0"ifconfig_vx0="inet 10.0.0.80 netmask 255.255.255.0" I think it's a typo that you use vx0 twice? > and > rebooted. On the console during boot I see the error: "ifconfig: > interface vx1 does not exist" Is the card recognized in dmesg-output? Please show us the corresponding dmesg. -volker _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 09:07:29 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51CF737B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 09:07:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cobalt.4gl.com (cobalt.4gl.com [66.212.110.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D5D643F3F for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 09:07:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mbettinger@championelevators.com) Received: from helpdesk.championelevators.com (node-97-98.4gl.com [66.212.97.98] (may be forged)) by cobalt.4gl.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA15334 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 11:24:43 -0500 From: Matthew Bettinger Organization: Champion Elevators, inc. To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 10:59:42 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <20030422155745.33292.qmail@web20707.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20030422155745.33292.qmail@web20707.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200304221059.42864.mbettinger@championelevators.com> Subject: Re: adding second network card X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: mbettinger@championelevators.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 16:07:29 -0000 On Tuesday 22 April 2003 10:57 am, clay spencer wrote: > second care. These are the only things in /var/log/dmesg.today: *Handler > Int 332 g_provider R *Handler Int > 333 g_consumer R *Handler Int > 334 g_bioq R *Handler Int > 335 g_event R *Handler Int > 371 vnode R *Handler Int > 372 proc R *Handler Int > 373 cdev R *Handler Int > 374 bio R *Handler Int > 375 buf R *Handler Int there are @ 900 or so lines containing similar I have seen this in my dmesg's ever since going to 4.7. Even with GENERIC kernel. I have seen a few other posts about this but no answers. Does anyone know what this is ? Is this debug output of some sort? Machines still run just fine after getting this output. Thanks Matt Bettinger Champion Elevators, Inc. Houston, Texas 77061 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 09:39:33 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95C5437B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 09:39:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web20705.mail.yahoo.com (web20705.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.178]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D6E6B43F93 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 09:39:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsdude@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20030422163930.92335.qmail@web20705.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [160.79.175.120] by web20705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 09:39:30 PDT Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 09:39:30 -0700 (PDT) From: clay spencer To: clay spencer , Volker Kindermann , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20030422155804.11814.qmail@web20712.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Re: adding second network card X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 16:39:33 -0000 ifconfig -a shows: vx0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 10.0.0.82 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.0.0.255 inet6 fe80::2a0:24ff:fede:ad33%vx0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 ether 00:a0:22:ee:ad:33 vx0: flags=8802 mtu 1500 ether 00:a0:24:51:a3:5b lp0: flags=8810 mtu 1500 lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 sco dmesg contains: mesg | more d6_debug RW *Handler Int 19 nd6_drlist R *Handler Node 20 nd6_prlist R *Handler Node 5 debug RW Node 282 mddebug RW *Handler Int 323 doslowdown RW *Handler Int 336 elf32_trace RW *Handler Int 338 boothowto R *Handler Int 339 bootverbose RW *Handler Int 345 free_devt RW *Handler Int 347 fdexpand R *Handler Int 366 sizeof RW Node 330 g_class R *Handler Int 331 g_geom R *Handler Int 332 g_provider R *Handler Int 333 g_consumer R *Handler Int 334 g_bioq R *Handler Int 335 g_event R *Handler Int 371 vnode R *Handler Int 372 proc R *Handler Int 373 cdev R *Handler Int 374 bio R *Handler Int 375 buf R *Handler Int 376 kinfo_proc R *Handler Int 443 rman_debug RW *Handler Int 474 ttydebug RW *Handler Int 509 dobkgrdwrite RW *Handler Int 511 nchash R *Handler 512 ncnegfactor RW *Handler 513 numneg R *Handler 514 numcache R *Handler 515 numcachehv R *Handler 516 vfscache RW *Handler Int 517 vnsize R *Handler Int 518 ncsize R *Handler Int 533 hashstat RW Node 534 rawnchash R *Handler Int 535 nchash R *Handler Int 632 rawnfsnode R *Handler Int 633 nfsnode R *Handler Int 536 disablecwd RW *Handler Int 543 disablefullpath RW *Handler Int 561 rush_requests RW *Handler Int 563 vnlru_nowhere RW *Handler Int 567 bpf_bufsize RW *Handler Int 568 bpf_maxbufsize RW *Handler Int 572 if_tun_debug RW *Handler Int byte 1465 ifconfig -a shows: clay spencer wrote:Volker yes sorry that is a typo. If I give the following command: ifconfig vx1 create I will recieve the error: ifconfig: SIOCIFCREATE: Invalid argument As far as dmesg goes. The only thing that is getting logged is a list of kernel interupts. I see all the other normal startup messages written to console and the 3/4 of the way through I see this big kernel interupt vector list scroll by but this was happening before I added the second care. These are the only things in /var/log/dmesg.today: *Handler Int 332 g_provider R *Handler Int 333 g_consumer R *Handler Int 334 g_bioq R *Handler Int 335 g_event R *Handler Int 371 vnode R *Handler Int 372 proc R *Handler Int 373 cdev R *Handler Int 374 bio R *Handler Int 375 buf R *Handler Int there are @ 900 or so lines containing similar entries this seems to be a seperate problme of course but it is impeding my troubleshooting of the NIC problem. If you have any ideas? Thanks again Volker Kindermann wrote:> I installed a second 3Com Etherlink 3 card in a new 5.0 FreeBSD box. > Both of these devices should be using the vortex device I believe(vx0 > vx1 etc.) I have added the following to /etc/rc.conf: > network_interfaces="lo0 vx0 vx1"ifconfig_vx0="inet 10.0.0.79 netmask > 255.255.255.0"ifconfig_vx0="inet 10.0.0.80 netmask 255.255.255.0" I think it's a typo that you use vx0 twice? > and > rebooted. On the console during boot I see the error: "ifconfig: > interface vx1 does not exist" Is the card recognized in dmesg-output? Please show us the corresponding dmesg. -volker _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 09:39:58 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A7F337B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 09:39:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from router.jomom.net (i216-58-44-252.igs.net [216.58.44.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E7CC243FAF for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 09:39:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jomom@jomom.net) Received: (qmail 60013 invoked from network); 22 Apr 2003 16:35:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO joe) (206.186.13.80) by 0 with SMTP; 22 Apr 2003 16:35:12 -0000 Message-ID: <00c701c308ed$cc5c0580$500dbace@call.gtn.ca> From: "Joe Mom" To: "Joe Mom" , "Kent Stewart" , References: <001001c30838$a60ee290$500dbace@call.gtn.ca> <200304211218.31379.kstewart@owt.com> <001a01c3083e$c6583550$500dbace@call.gtn.ca> <200304211303.28319.kstewart@owt.com> <006f01c308dd$62e3b270$500dbace@call.gtn.ca> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 12:39:51 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4920.2300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 Subject: Re: Portupgrade failing to upgrade a port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 16:39:58 -0000 I have also just attempted: # portinstall -rf XFree86-clients-4.3.0_1 which resulted in the following: do_text.c:453: request for member `height' in something not a structure or union do_text.c: In function `DoAAText': do_text.c:483: warning: implicit declaration of function `XftDrawString8' do_text.c: In function `EndAAText': do_text.c:508: warning: implicit declaration of function `XftColorFree' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients/work/xc/programs/x11perf. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients/work/xc/programs. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients. ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portinstall51076.0 make -DFORCE_PKG_REGISTER reinstall ** Fix the installation problem and try again. ** The following packages were not installed or upgraded (*:skipped / !:failed) ! x11/XFree86-4-clients (install error) ----------------------- Joe Mom "Drain us of life and cleanse the mess" MuDvAyNe ----------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Mom" To: "Kent Stewart" ; Cc: Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 10:42 AM Subject: Re: Portupgrade failing to upgrade a port > K, now I have done everything that you stated below. and I am still getting > this error. > > Any other Ideas? > > > p2 300 > 128mb sdram > 6gb Quantum fireball > ati rage fury video > > > ----------------------- > Joe Mom > "Drain us of life and cleanse the mess" > MuDvAyNe > ----------------------- > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kent Stewart" > To: "Joe Mom" ; > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 4:03 PM > Subject: Re: Portupgrade failing to upgrade a port > > > > On Monday 21 April 2003 12:46 pm, Joe Mom wrote: > > > make index > > > > > > Wouldn't that only apply if I was building from sysinstall? > > > > > > Because I have done cvsup in the past to update things like gnome and > > > its worked without any extra commands executed. > > > > No, you haven't paid attention to the date on /usr/ports/INDEX. Kris > > only updates on something like 4-6 week intervals and it is only > > current for a few minutes on the day he updates it. > > > > Kent > > > > > > > > ----------------------- > > > Joe Mom > > > "Drain us of life and cleanse the mess" > > > MuDvAyNe > > > ----------------------- > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Kent Stewart" > > > To: "Joe Mom" ; > > > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 3:18 PM > > > Subject: Re: Portupgrade failing to upgrade a port > > > > > > > On Monday 21 April 2003 12:03 pm, Joe Mom wrote: > > > > > Any progress made on this yet? > > > > > > > > > > I am currently getting the same error. I have done a cvsup > > > > > multiple times, with no luck. > > > > > > > > A cvsup of ports-all without a "make index" and running "portsdb > > > > -u" doesn't count. No matter how many times you run cvsup. > > > > > > > > I have updated all of these ports without problems. I go an extra > > > > step and usually do things like "portupgrade -pufr freetype2" and > > > > etc. If you don't force, you only get the latest changes and some > > > > of these are libraries that are used by later builds. If you don't > > > > force rebuild the ports using the changed one, they are still using > > > > the old one. If the header files changed with the upgrade, you > > > > don't have any idea what your port is doing. > > > > > > > > Kent > > > > > > > > > ----------------------- > > > > > Joe Mom > > > > > "Drain us of life and cleanse the mess" > > > > > MuDvAyNe > > > > > ----------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello you all, > > > > > I've made a complete reinstall, made a make world, recompiled the > > > > > kernel during the last week-end. So I've come to the last step of > > > > > syncronizing my port tree. While upgrading my ports, I've got > > > > > this while updating XF86-clients > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > > > > usr/include/stdlib.h:110: warning: ANSI C does not support `long > > > > > long' /usr/include/stdlib.h:114: warning: ANSI C does not support > > > > > `long long' cc -O -pipe -ansi -pedantic -Dasm=__asm -Wall > > > > > -Wpointer-arith -I/usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients/work/xc > > > > > -I/usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients/work/xc/exports/include > > > > > -I/usr/X11R6/include -DCSRG_BASED -DFUNCPROTO=15 -DNARROWPROTO > > > > > -DMITSHM -DXFT `pkg-config xft --cflags` -c do_text.c > > > > > do_text.c:403: X11/Xft/Xft.h: No such file or directory > > > > > In file included from x11perf.h:28, > > > > > from do_text.c:26: > > > > > /usr/include/stdlib.h:110: warning: ANSI C does not support `long > > > > > long' /usr/include/stdlib.h:114: warning: ANSI C does not support > > > > > `long long' do_text.c:405: syntax error before `*' > > > > > do_text.c:405: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of > > > > > `aafont' do_text.c:405: ANSI C forbids data definition with no > > > > > type or storage class do_text.c:406: syntax error before `*' > > > > > do_text.c:406: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of > > > > > `aadraw' do_text.c:406: ANSI C forbids data definition with no > > > > > type or storage class do_text.c:407: syntax error before > > > > > `aacolor' do_text.c:407: warning: type defaults to `int' in > > > > > declaration of `aacolor' do_text.c:407: ANSI C forbids data > > > > > definition with no type or storage class do_text.c: In function > > > > > `InitAAText': > > > > > do_text.c:416: warning: implicit declaration of function > > > > > `XftFontOpenName' do_text.c:416: warning: assignment makes > > > > > pointer from integer without a cast do_text.c:425: warning: > > > > > implicit declaration of function `XftDrawCreate' do_text.c:427: > > > > > warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast > > > > > do_text.c:432: warning: implicit declaration of function > > > > > `XftFontClose' do_text.c:439: warning: implicit declaration of > > > > > function `XftColorAllocValue' do_text.c:446: warning: implicit > > > > > declaration of function `XftDrawDestroy' do_text.c:453: request > > > > > for member `height' in something not a structure or union > > > > > do_text.c: In function `DoAAText': > > > > > do_text.c:483: warning: implicit declaration of function > > > > > `XftDrawString8' do_text.c: In function `EndAAText': > > > > > do_text.c:508: warning: implicit declaration of function > > > > > `XftColorFree' *** Error code 1 > > > > > > > > > > Stop in > > > > > /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients/work/xc/programs/x11perf. *** > > > > > Error code 1 > > > > > > > > > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients/work/xc/programs. > > > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > > > > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients. > > > > > ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa > > > > > /tmp/portupgrade75378.9 make > > > > > ** Fix the problem and try again. > > > > > ---> Build of x11/XFree86-4-clients ended at: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 > > > > > 10:38:37 -0500 (consumed 00:03:00) > > > > > ---> Upgrade of x11/XFree86-4-clients ended at: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 > > > > > 10:38:37 -0500 (consumed 00:03:06) > > > > > ** No need to upgrade 'XFree86-fontEncodings-4.2.0' (>= > > > > > XFree86-fontEncodings-4.2.0). (specify -f to force) > > > > > ** No need to upgrade 'XFree86-font75dpi-4.2.0' (>= > > > > > XFree86-font75dpi-4.2.0). (specify -f to force) > > > > > ____________________________________________________ > > > > > I also got this while upgrading Mozilla: > > > > > > > > > > usr/include/stdlib.h:110: warning: ANSI C does not support `long > > > > > long' /usr/include/stdlib.h:114: warning: ANSI C does not support > > > > > `long long' cc -O -pipe -ansi -pedantic -Dasm=__asm -Wall > > > > > -Wpointer-arith -I/usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients/work/xc > > > > > -I/usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients/work/xc/exports/include > > > > > -I/usr/X11R6/include -DCSRG_BASED -DFUNCPROTO=15 -DNARROWPROTO > > > > > -DMITSHM -DXFT `pkg-config xft --cflags` -c do_text.c > > > > > do_text.c:403: X11/Xft/Xft.h: No such file or directory > > > > > In file included from x11perf.h:28, > > > > > from do_text.c:26: > > > > > /usr/include/stdlib.h:110: warning: ANSI C does not support `long > > > > > long' /usr/include/stdlib.h:114: warning: ANSI C does not support > > > > > `long long' do_text.c:405: syntax error before `*' > > > > > do_text.c:405: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of > > > > > `aafont' do_text.c:405: ANSI C forbids data definition with no > > > > > type or storage class do_text.c:406: syntax error before `*' > > > > > do_text.c:406: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of > > > > > `aadraw' do_text.c:406: ANSI C forbids data definition with no > > > > > type or storage class do_text.c:407: syntax error before > > > > > `aacolor' do_text.c:407: warning: type defaults to `int' in > > > > > declaration of `aacolor' do_text.c:407: ANSI C forbids data > > > > > definition with no type or storage class do_text.c: In function > > > > > `InitAAText': > > > > > do_text.c:416: warning: implicit declaration of function > > > > > `XftFontOpenName' do_text.c:416: warning: assignment makes > > > > > pointer from integer without a cast do_text.c:425: warning: > > > > > implicit declaration of function `XftDrawCreate' do_text.c:427: > > > > > warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast > > > > > do_text.c:432: warning: implicit declaration of function > > > > > `XftFontClose' do_text.c:439: warning: implicit declaration of > > > > > function `XftColorAllocValue' do_text.c:446: warning: implicit > > > > > declaration of function `XftDrawDestroy' do_text.c:453: request > > > > > for member `height' in something not a structure or union > > > > > do_text.c: In function `DoAAText': > > > > > do_text.c:483: warning: implicit declaration of function > > > > > `XftDrawString8' do_text.c: In function `EndAAText': > > > > > do_text.c:508: warning: implicit declaration of function > > > > > `XftColorFree' *** Error code 1 > > > > > > > > > > Stop in > > > > > /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients/work/xc/programs/x11perf. *** > > > > > Error code 1 > > > > > > > > > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients/work/xc/programs. > > > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > > > > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients. > > > > > ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa > > > > > /tmp/portupgrade75378.9 make > > > > > ** Fix the problem and try again. > > > > > ---> Build of x11/XFree86-4-clients ended at: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 > > > > > 10:38:37 -0500 (consumed 00:03:00) > > > > > ---> Upgrade of x11/XFree86-4-clients ended at: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 > > > > > 10:38:37 -0500 (consumed 00:03:06) > > > > > ** No need to upgrade 'XFree86-fontEncodings-4.2.0' (>= > > > > > XFree86-fontEncodings-4.2.0). (specify -f to force) > > > > > ** No need to upgrade 'XFree86-font75dpi-4.2.0' (>= > > > > > XFree86-font75dpi-4.2.0). (specify -f to force) > > > > > > > > > > Should I cvsup again ? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > > > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Kent Stewart > > > > Richland, WA > > > > > > > > http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html > > > > -- > > Kent Stewart > > Richland, WA > > > > http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html > > > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 09:57:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D4E837B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 09:57:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web20711.mail.yahoo.com (web20711.mail.yahoo.com [66.163.169.152]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C90B543FD7 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 09:57:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsdude@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20030422165706.97493.qmail@web20711.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [160.79.175.120] by web20711.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 09:57:06 PDT Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 09:57:06 -0700 (PDT) From: clay spencer To: Volker Kindermann In-Reply-To: <20030422184048.3fd46a70.freebsd@secspace.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: adding second network card X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 16:57:07 -0000 No there is no normal dmesg output just a bunch of interupt handlers this happened when I recompiled the kernel. The only changes I made to the kernel config were to remove support for scsi devices since the system has none. So the kernel config is basically the generic. As a test I ran boot /kernel.old from the loader prompt but recieved the same dmesg output as well as vx1 not being found. The output of "ifconfig vx1 up" is: ifconfig: interface vx1 does not exist any ideas? Volker Kindermann wrote:> Yes i386. On the console during the boot I see that IRQ 9 and 10 have > been assigned to both my NICS. It is not until during the network > congig phase that I get the "no such device" error message. Dmesg > contains the following output: d6_debug RW *Handler Int > 19 nd6_drlist R *Handler Node > 20 nd6_prlist R *Handler Node > 5 debug RW Node > 282 mddebug RW *Handler Int > 323 doslowdown RW *Handler Int > 336 elf32_trace RW *Handler Int > 338 boothowto R *Handler Int > 339 bootverbose RW *Handler Int > 345 free_devt RW *Handler Int > 347 fdexpand R *Handler Int > 366 sizeof RW Node ... please excuse me, but I'm totaly amazed about this dmesg output. I expected something like (this is from my 5.0 machine): xl0: <3Com 3c905C-TX Fast Etherlink XL> port 0xb800-0xb87f mem 0xe0000000-0xe000007f irq 10 at device 10.0 on pci0 xl0: Ethernet address: 00:01:02:a0:db:09 miibus0: on xl0 xlphy0: <3c905C 10/100 internal PHY> on miibus0 xlphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto don't you get such sort of thing? Of course not with xl0 but with vx0 and vx1 if you type "dmesg"? What is the content of the file /var/log/dmesg.today? Does "ifconfig vx1 up" works? -volker --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 10:01:15 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9DB337B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 10:01:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns1.webwarrior.net (overlord-host99.dsl.visi.com [209.98.86.99]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B69D43FD7 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 10:01:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from friar_josh@webwarrior.net) Received: by ns1.webwarrior.net (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 5051E253C1; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 12:01:14 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 12:01:14 -0500 From: Josh Paetzel To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030422170114.GG37008@ns1.webwarrior.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Subject: Disk Performance Issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 17:01:16 -0000 I've got a FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE system with a Maxtor 6L040J2 ATA/133 7200 RPM IDE OS drive in it on a gigabtye GA-7VRXP motherboard. I've also got a pair of Western Digital WD800BB 7200 RPM ATA/100 drives in RAID 1 on an onboard Promise 20276 ATA/133 RAID Controller. atacontrol reports that all the drives are being properly probed: ===root@markx ('tty') /storage/os_isos -> atacontrol mode 0 Master = UDMA133 Slave = ??? ===root@markx ('tty') /storage/os_isos -> atacontrol mode 1 Master = PIO4 Slave = PIO4 ===root@markx ('tty') /storage/os_isos -> atacontrol mode 2 Master = UDMA100 Slave = ??? ===root@markx ('tty') /storage/os_isos -> atacontrol mode 3 Master = UDMA100 Slave = ??? My issue is that I'm seeing sustained transfer rates on 600-700 meg files in the 5-6 Meg/second range...about 1/4 of what the drives are capable of. Does anyone have any advice on where to go from here in troubleshooting this issue? TIA, Josh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 10:07:22 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F2FF37B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 10:07:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from astarte.volker.de (p50891B7D.dip.t-dialin.net [80.137.27.125]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C04F043FB1 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 10:07:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@secspace.de) Received: from astarte.volker.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by astarte.volker.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h3MH7IeK041330; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 19:07:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@secspace.de) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 19:07:18 +0200 From: Volker Kindermann To: clay spencer Message-Id: <20030422190718.652b413d.freebsd@secspace.de> In-Reply-To: <20030422165706.97493.qmail@web20711.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20030422184048.3fd46a70.freebsd@secspace.de> <20030422165706.97493.qmail@web20711.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.10claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.7) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: adding second network card X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 17:07:22 -0000 > No there is no normal dmesg output just a bunch of interupt handlers > this happened when I recompiled the kernel. The only changes I made to > the kernel config were to remove support for scsi devices since the > system has none. So the kernel config is basically the generic. what's in /var/run/dmesg.boot ? These interrupt handlers seem to flood your buffer. -volker From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 10:13:15 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E225F37B404 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 10:13:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web20712.mail.yahoo.com (web20712.mail.yahoo.com [66.163.169.153]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4A82B43FA3 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 10:13:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsdude@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20030422171314.42648.qmail@web20712.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [160.79.175.120] by web20712.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 10:13:14 PDT Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 10:13:14 -0700 (PDT) From: clay spencer To: Volker Kindermann In-Reply-To: <20030422190718.652b413d.freebsd@secspace.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: adding second network card X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 17:13:16 -0000 /var/log/dmesg.today and the one in /var/run are identical Volker Kindermann wrote:> No there is no normal dmesg output just a bunch of interupt handlers > this happened when I recompiled the kernel. The only changes I made to > the kernel config were to remove support for scsi devices since the > system has none. So the kernel config is basically the generic. what's in /var/run/dmesg.boot ? These interrupt handlers seem to flood your buffer. -volker --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 10:39:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A13137B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 10:39:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-67-115-75-1.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [67.115.75.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60E6B43F93 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 10:39:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from rot13.obsecurity.org (rot13.obsecurity.org [10.0.0.5]) by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26D6466D6A; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 10:39:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rot13.obsecurity.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 08B3C1536; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 10:39:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 10:39:08 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: beemern@ksu.edu Message-ID: <20030422173908.GA64310@rot13.obsecurity.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: linux/freebsd kernel differences X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 17:39:10 -0000 --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Apr 22, 2003 at 09:15:47AM -0500, beemern@ksu.edu wrote: >=20 > theres an argument here in our office about linux vs. freebsd >=20 > we're building a new nfs server for our entire dept, and i suggested using > fbsd, however, an opponent put forth linux and said that: Linux NFS support is really crappy. It's possible this might have changed recently, but versions I have used do not support NFSv3 or TCP mounts. Even if this has changed recently, it can hardly be considered mature, proven code. I have also had terrible problems with various RPC servers crashing or becoming unresponsive after a period of use, requiring frustrating admin intervention on the server. For your sanity and the sake of your users, just don't do it :) Kris --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+pX48Wry0BWjoQKURApXiAKDh5KfgZXQSwrCwVBYmKERJdFjm8gCgoOPP 3qG4iKEWaNggT1BBcKJk7e0= =uryI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 10:45:17 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A31437B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 10:45:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4727043FE0 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 10:45:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h3MHjDOg005882; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 13:45:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h3MHjCAv005881; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 13:45:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200304221745.h3MHjCAv005881@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: beemern@ksu.edu Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 13:45:11 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: from "beemern@ksu.edu" at Apr 22, 2003 09:15:47 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: linux/freebsd kernel differences X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 17:45:17 -0000 > > > theres an argument here in our office about linux vs. freebsd > > we're building a new nfs server for our entire dept, and i suggested using > fbsd, however, an opponent put forth linux and said that: > > "there is no difference between linux and freebsd kernels, except that > linux has much better driver support.. WHY use obscure freebsd?" There is a significant difference between the kernels. When it comes to network serving, FreeBSD is more stable and servicable and probably even higher performing overall. FreeBSD tends to have fewer exploitable holes as well and fixes are quickly put out and readily applied when does happen. FreeBSD people have concentrated on creating and maintaining reliable drivers for needed peripherals. But, FreeBSD tends to not have drivers for every fly-by-night piece of flow-solder that comes along - which you don't want for a real server anyway. ////jerry > > anyone got any ammo i can use here? i'd really rather use fbsd since i'm > much more familar with it and its never let me down (except in the area of > native java support), and i believe it'd be perfect for our nfs box > > but i'll need some good concrete evidence to make my case.. > > thanks > nathan > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 10:55:46 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3D3A37B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 10:55:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rutger.owt.com (rutger.owt.com [204.118.6.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C773343F3F for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 10:55:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from topaz-out (owt-207-41-94-233.owt.com [207.41.94.233]) by rutger.owt.com (8.11.6p2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h3MHtfV14366; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 10:55:42 -0700 From: Kent Stewart To: "Joe Mom" , Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 10:55:40 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 References: <001001c30838$a60ee290$500dbace@call.gtn.ca> <006f01c308dd$62e3b270$500dbace@call.gtn.ca> <00c701c308ed$cc5c0580$500dbace@call.gtn.ca> In-Reply-To: <00c701c308ed$cc5c0580$500dbace@call.gtn.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200304221055.41056.kstewart@owt.com> Subject: Re: Portupgrade failing to upgrade a port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 17:55:47 -0000 On Tuesday 22 April 2003 09:39 am, Joe Mom wrote: > I have also just attempted: > > # portinstall -rf XFree86-clients-4.3.0_1 > > which resulted in the following: > > do_text.c:453: request for member `height' in something not a > structure or union > do_text.c: In function `DoAAText': > do_text.c:483: warning: implicit declaration of function > `XftDrawString8' do_text.c: In function `EndAAText': > do_text.c:508: warning: implicit declaration of function > `XftColorFree' *** Error code 1 > This looks like you have an old version of Xft. Run "portversion -c | more" and see what all you need to upgrade. The other thing is why aren't your messages showing up on -questions. Kent > Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients/work/xc/programs/x11perf. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients/work/xc/programs. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients. > ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa > /tmp/portinstall51076.0 make -DFORCE_PKG_REGISTER reinstall > ** Fix the installation problem and try again. > ** The following packages were not installed or upgraded (*:skipped / > !:failed) > ! x11/XFree86-4-clients (install error) > > ----------------------- > Joe Mom > "Drain us of life and cleanse the mess" > MuDvAyNe > ----------------------- > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joe Mom" > To: "Kent Stewart" ; > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 10:42 AM > Subject: Re: Portupgrade failing to upgrade a port > > > K, now I have done everything that you stated below. and I am still > > getting > > > this error. > > > > Any other Ideas? > > > > > > p2 300 > > 128mb sdram > > 6gb Quantum fireball > > ati rage fury video > > > > > > ----------------------- > > Joe Mom > > "Drain us of life and cleanse the mess" > > MuDvAyNe > > ----------------------- > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Kent Stewart" > > To: "Joe Mom" ; > > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 4:03 PM > > Subject: Re: Portupgrade failing to upgrade a port > > > > > On Monday 21 April 2003 12:46 pm, Joe Mom wrote: > > > > make index > > > > > > > > Wouldn't that only apply if I was building from sysinstall? > > > > > > > > Because I have done cvsup in the past to update things like > > > > gnome and its worked without any extra commands executed. > > > > > > No, you haven't paid attention to the date on /usr/ports/INDEX. > > > Kris only updates on something like 4-6 week intervals and it is > > > only current for a few minutes on the day he updates it. > > > > > > Kent > > > > > > > ----------------------- > > > > Joe Mom > > > > "Drain us of life and cleanse the mess" > > > > MuDvAyNe > > > > ----------------------- > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Kent Stewart" > > > > To: "Joe Mom" ; > > > > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 > > > > 3:18 PM > > > > Subject: Re: Portupgrade failing to upgrade a port > > > > > > > > > On Monday 21 April 2003 12:03 pm, Joe Mom wrote: > > > > > > Any progress made on this yet? > > > > > > > > > > > > I am currently getting the same error. I have done a cvsup > > > > > > multiple times, with no luck. > > > > > > > > > > A cvsup of ports-all without a "make index" and running > > > > > "portsdb -u" doesn't count. No matter how many times you run > > > > > cvsup. > > > > > > > > > > I have updated all of these ports without problems. I go an > > > > > extra step and usually do things like "portupgrade -pufr > > > > > freetype2" and etc. If you don't force, you only get the > > > > > latest changes and some of these are libraries that are used > > > > > by later builds. If you don't force rebuild the ports using > > > > > the changed one, they are still using the old one. If the > > > > > header files changed with the upgrade, you don't have any > > > > > idea what your port is doing. > > > > > > > > > > Kent > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------- > > > > > > Joe Mom > > > > > > "Drain us of life and cleanse the mess" > > > > > > MuDvAyNe > > > > > > ----------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello you all, > > > > > > I've made a complete reinstall, made a make world, > > > > > > recompiled the kernel during the last week-end. So I've > > > > > > come to the last step of syncronizing my port tree. While > > > > > > upgrading my ports, I've got this while updating > > > > > > XF86-clients > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > > > > > usr/include/stdlib.h:110: warning: ANSI C does not support > > > > > > `long long' /usr/include/stdlib.h:114: warning: ANSI C does > > > > > > not support `long long' cc -O -pipe -ansi -pedantic > > > > > > -Dasm=__asm -Wall -Wpointer-arith > > > > > > -I/usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients/work/xc > > > > > > -I/usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients/work/xc/exports/include > > > > > > -I/usr/X11R6/include -DCSRG_BASED -DFUNCPROTO=15 > > > > > > -DNARROWPROTO -DMITSHM -DXFT `pkg-config xft --cflags` -c > > > > > > do_text.c do_text.c:403: X11/Xft/Xft.h: No such file or > > > > > > directory In file included from x11perf.h:28, > > > > > > from do_text.c:26: > > > > > > /usr/include/stdlib.h:110: warning: ANSI C does not support > > > > > > `long long' /usr/include/stdlib.h:114: warning: ANSI C does > > > > > > not support `long long' do_text.c:405: syntax error before > > > > > > `*' do_text.c:405: warning: type defaults to `int' in > > > > > > declaration of `aafont' do_text.c:405: ANSI C forbids data > > > > > > definition with no type or storage class do_text.c:406: > > > > > > syntax error before `*' do_text.c:406: warning: type > > > > > > defaults to `int' in declaration of `aadraw' do_text.c:406: > > > > > > ANSI C forbids data definition with no type or storage > > > > > > class do_text.c:407: syntax error before `aacolor' > > > > > > do_text.c:407: warning: type defaults to `int' in > > > > > > declaration of `aacolor' do_text.c:407: ANSI C forbids data > > > > > > definition with no type or storage class do_text.c: In > > > > > > function `InitAAText': > > > > > > do_text.c:416: warning: implicit declaration of function > > > > > > `XftFontOpenName' do_text.c:416: warning: assignment makes > > > > > > pointer from integer without a cast do_text.c:425: warning: > > > > > > implicit declaration of function `XftDrawCreate' > > > > > > do_text.c:427: warning: assignment makes pointer from > > > > > > integer without a cast do_text.c:432: warning: implicit > > > > > > declaration of function `XftFontClose' do_text.c:439: > > > > > > warning: implicit declaration of function > > > > > > `XftColorAllocValue' do_text.c:446: warning: implicit > > > > > > declaration of function `XftDrawDestroy' do_text.c:453: > > > > > > request for member `height' in something not a structure or > > > > > > union do_text.c: In function `DoAAText': > > > > > > do_text.c:483: warning: implicit declaration of function > > > > > > `XftDrawString8' do_text.c: In function `EndAAText': > > > > > > do_text.c:508: warning: implicit declaration of function > > > > > > `XftColorFree' *** Error code 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > Stop in > > > > > > /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients/work/xc/programs/x11perf. > > > > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients/work/xc/programs. > > > > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients. > > > > > > ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa > > > > > > /tmp/portupgrade75378.9 make > > > > > > ** Fix the problem and try again. > > > > > > ---> Build of x11/XFree86-4-clients ended at: Tue, 25 Feb > > > > > > 2003 10:38:37 -0500 (consumed 00:03:00) > > > > > > ---> Upgrade of x11/XFree86-4-clients ended at: Tue, 25 > > > > > > Feb 2003 10:38:37 -0500 (consumed 00:03:06) > > > > > > ** No need to upgrade 'XFree86-fontEncodings-4.2.0' (>= > > > > > > XFree86-fontEncodings-4.2.0). (specify -f to force) > > > > > > ** No need to upgrade 'XFree86-font75dpi-4.2.0' (>= > > > > > > XFree86-font75dpi-4.2.0). (specify -f to force) > > > > > > ____________________________________________________ > > > > > > I also got this while upgrading Mozilla: > > > > > > > > > > > > usr/include/stdlib.h:110: warning: ANSI C does not support > > > > > > `long long' /usr/include/stdlib.h:114: warning: ANSI C does > > > > > > not support `long long' cc -O -pipe -ansi -pedantic > > > > > > -Dasm=__asm -Wall -Wpointer-arith > > > > > > -I/usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients/work/xc > > > > > > -I/usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients/work/xc/exports/include > > > > > > -I/usr/X11R6/include -DCSRG_BASED -DFUNCPROTO=15 > > > > > > -DNARROWPROTO -DMITSHM -DXFT `pkg-config xft --cflags` -c > > > > > > do_text.c do_text.c:403: X11/Xft/Xft.h: No such file or > > > > > > directory In file included from x11perf.h:28, > > > > > > from do_text.c:26: > > > > > > /usr/include/stdlib.h:110: warning: ANSI C does not support > > > > > > `long long' /usr/include/stdlib.h:114: warning: ANSI C does > > > > > > not support `long long' do_text.c:405: syntax error before > > > > > > `*' do_text.c:405: warning: type defaults to `int' in > > > > > > declaration of `aafont' do_text.c:405: ANSI C forbids data > > > > > > definition with no type or storage class do_text.c:406: > > > > > > syntax error before `*' do_text.c:406: warning: type > > > > > > defaults to `int' in declaration of `aadraw' do_text.c:406: > > > > > > ANSI C forbids data definition with no type or storage > > > > > > class do_text.c:407: syntax error before `aacolor' > > > > > > do_text.c:407: warning: type defaults to `int' in > > > > > > declaration of `aacolor' do_text.c:407: ANSI C forbids data > > > > > > definition with no type or storage class do_text.c: In > > > > > > function `InitAAText': > > > > > > do_text.c:416: warning: implicit declaration of function > > > > > > `XftFontOpenName' do_text.c:416: warning: assignment makes > > > > > > pointer from integer without a cast do_text.c:425: warning: > > > > > > implicit declaration of function `XftDrawCreate' > > > > > > do_text.c:427: warning: assignment makes pointer from > > > > > > integer without a cast do_text.c:432: warning: implicit > > > > > > declaration of function `XftFontClose' do_text.c:439: > > > > > > warning: implicit declaration of function > > > > > > `XftColorAllocValue' do_text.c:446: warning: implicit > > > > > > declaration of function `XftDrawDestroy' do_text.c:453: > > > > > > request for member `height' in something not a structure or > > > > > > union do_text.c: In function `DoAAText': > > > > > > do_text.c:483: warning: implicit declaration of function > > > > > > `XftDrawString8' do_text.c: In function `EndAAText': > > > > > > do_text.c:508: warning: implicit declaration of function > > > > > > `XftColorFree' *** Error code 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > Stop in > > > > > > /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients/work/xc/programs/x11perf. > > > > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients/work/xc/programs. > > > > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients. > > > > > > ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa > > > > > > /tmp/portupgrade75378.9 make > > > > > > ** Fix the problem and try again. > > > > > > ---> Build of x11/XFree86-4-clients ended at: Tue, 25 Feb > > > > > > 2003 10:38:37 -0500 (consumed 00:03:00) > > > > > > ---> Upgrade of x11/XFree86-4-clients ended at: Tue, 25 > > > > > > Feb 2003 10:38:37 -0500 (consumed 00:03:06) > > > > > > ** No need to upgrade 'XFree86-fontEncodings-4.2.0' (>= > > > > > > XFree86-fontEncodings-4.2.0). (specify -f to force) > > > > > > ** No need to upgrade 'XFree86-font75dpi-4.2.0' (>= > > > > > > XFree86-font75dpi-4.2.0). (specify -f to force) > > > > > > > > > > > > Should I cvsup again ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the > > > > > > message _______________________________________________ > > > > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > > > > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Kent Stewart > > > > > Richland, WA > > > > > > > > > > http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html > > > > > > -- > > > Kent Stewart > > > Richland, WA > > > > > > http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 11:10:34 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E01537B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 11:10:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhub-4.iastate.edu (mailhub-4.iastate.edu [129.186.140.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC60443FD7 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 11:10:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bhagedor@iastate.edu) Received: from mailout-2.iastate.edu (mailout-2.iastate.edu [129.186.140.2]) by mailhub-4.iastate.edu (8.9.3p2/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA14175 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 13:10:15 -0500 Received: from dakine.student.iastate.edu(64.113.71.51) by mailout-2.iastate.edu via csmap id 30648; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 13:15:08 -0500 (CDT) From: "Brandon Hagedorn" To: Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 13:10:15 -0500 Message-ID: <007c01c308fa$6ccf5880$33477140@dakine> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: portupgrade install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 18:10:34 -0000 When doing a make install in the ports, I get this error /var: create/symlink failed, no inodes free mkdir: /var/db/pkg/ruby-rdoc-0.0.0.b2: No space left on device *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/ruby-rdoc. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/databases/ruby-bdb1. *** Error code 1 %df -H Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s1a 528M 43M 443M 9% / /dev/ad0s1f 132M 53M 68M 44% /tmp /dev/ad0s1g 6.7G 5.4G 813M 87% /usr /dev/ad0s1e 1057M 721M 251M 74% /var procfs 4.1K 4.1K 0B 100% /proc FreeBSD version: 4.6.2-RELEASE I don't know why it says no space left on device because I have plenty there. One of my friends said that there are too many files open. Could this be true. If so how do I close them so I can install portupgrade? Any other suggestions? --Brandon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 11:16:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F344637B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 11:16:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freshaire.wiz.com (freshaire.wiz.com [66.143.183.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4014443FAF for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 11:16:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marc@wiz.com) Received: from freshaire.wiz.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freshaire.wiz.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h3MIGoc1035092 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 13:16:50 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from marc@freshaire.wiz.com) Received: (from marc@localhost) by freshaire.wiz.com (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h3MIGoPi035087 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 13:16:50 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 13:16:50 -0500 From: Marc Wiz To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20030422181650.GA35019@freshaire.wiz.com> References: <007c01c308fa$6ccf5880$33477140@dakine> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <007c01c308fa$6ccf5880$33477140@dakine> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Subject: Re: portupgrade install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 18:16:52 -0000 On Tue, Apr 22, 2003 at 01:10:15PM -0500, Brandon Hagedorn wrote: > When doing a make install in the ports, I get this error > > /var: create/symlink failed, no inodes free > mkdir: /var/db/pkg/ruby-rdoc-0.0.0.b2: No space left on device > *** Error code 1 > Stuff deleted. > > %df -H > Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/ad0s1a 528M 43M 443M 9% / > /dev/ad0s1f 132M 53M 68M 44% /tmp > /dev/ad0s1g 6.7G 5.4G 813M 87% /usr > /dev/ad0s1e 1057M 721M 251M 74% /var > procfs 4.1K 4.1K 0B 100% /proc > > FreeBSD version: 4.6.2-RELEASE > > I don't know why it says no space left on device because I have plenty > there. One of my friends said that there are too many files open. > Could this be true. If so how do I close them so I can install > portupgrade? Any other suggestions? Brandon, please note what the error message stated; "no inodes free". This means that the filesystem has no more inodes it can allocate to new files. Do a "df -i" and note the number of inodes free on /var The quick fix is to delete some files in the /var file system. If you cannot delete files then you will have to increase the number of inodes in /var. You would have to: backup /var Do a newfs and recreate /var (man newfs for the gory details :-) restore /var It all goes without saying you should do this in single user mode. Marc -- Marc Wiz marc@wiz.com Yes, that really is my last name. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 11:22:21 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4980737B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 11:22:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from router.jomom.net (i216-58-44-252.igs.net [216.58.44.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CE68A43FAF for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 11:22:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jomom@jomom.net) Received: (qmail 1955 invoked from network); 22 Apr 2003 18:17:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO joe) (206.186.13.80) by 0 with SMTP; 22 Apr 2003 18:17:15 -0000 Message-ID: <00d301c308fc$1aef3150$500dbace@call.gtn.ca> From: "Joe Mom" To: "Kent Stewart" , References: <001001c30838$a60ee290$500dbace@call.gtn.ca> <006f01c308dd$62e3b270$500dbace@call.gtn.ca> <00c701c308ed$cc5c0580$500dbace@call.gtn.ca> <200304221055.41056.kstewart@owt.com> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:22:16 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4920.2300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 Subject: Re: Portupgrade failing to upgrade a port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 18:22:21 -0000 This is the only thing that shows up. ezmlm-idx-0.40_2 --> qmail-1.03_1 freebsd-questions@freebsd.org is the correct list no? ----------------------- Joe Mom "Drain us of life and cleanse the mess" MuDvAyNe ----------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kent Stewart" To: "Joe Mom" ; Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 1:55 PM Subject: Re: Portupgrade failing to upgrade a port > On Tuesday 22 April 2003 09:39 am, Joe Mom wrote: > > I have also just attempted: > > > > # portinstall -rf XFree86-clients-4.3.0_1 > > > > which resulted in the following: > > > > do_text.c:453: request for member `height' in something not a > > structure or union > > do_text.c: In function `DoAAText': > > do_text.c:483: warning: implicit declaration of function > > `XftDrawString8' do_text.c: In function `EndAAText': > > do_text.c:508: warning: implicit declaration of function > > `XftColorFree' *** Error code 1 > > > > This looks like you have an old version of Xft. Run > "portversion -c | more" and see what all you need to upgrade. > > The other thing is why aren't your messages showing up on -questions. > > Kent > > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients/work/xc/programs/x11perf. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients/work/xc/programs. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients. > > ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa > > /tmp/portinstall51076.0 make -DFORCE_PKG_REGISTER reinstall > > ** Fix the installation problem and try again. > > ** The following packages were not installed or upgraded (*:skipped / > > !:failed) > > ! x11/XFree86-4-clients (install error) > > > > ----------------------- > > Joe Mom > > "Drain us of life and cleanse the mess" > > MuDvAyNe > > ----------------------- > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Joe Mom" > > To: "Kent Stewart" ; > > Cc: > > Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 10:42 AM > > Subject: Re: Portupgrade failing to upgrade a port > > > > > K, now I have done everything that you stated below. and I am still > > > > getting > > > > > this error. > > > > > > Any other Ideas? > > > > > > > > > p2 300 > > > 128mb sdram > > > 6gb Quantum fireball > > > ati rage fury video > > > > > > > > > ----------------------- > > > Joe Mom > > > "Drain us of life and cleanse the mess" > > > MuDvAyNe > > > ----------------------- > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Kent Stewart" > > > To: "Joe Mom" ; > > > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 4:03 PM > > > Subject: Re: Portupgrade failing to upgrade a port > > > > > > > On Monday 21 April 2003 12:46 pm, Joe Mom wrote: > > > > > make index > > > > > > > > > > Wouldn't that only apply if I was building from sysinstall? > > > > > > > > > > Because I have done cvsup in the past to update things like > > > > > gnome and its worked without any extra commands executed. > > > > > > > > No, you haven't paid attention to the date on /usr/ports/INDEX. > > > > Kris only updates on something like 4-6 week intervals and it is > > > > only current for a few minutes on the day he updates it. > > > > > > > > Kent > > > > > > > > > ----------------------- > > > > > Joe Mom > > > > > "Drain us of life and cleanse the mess" > > > > > MuDvAyNe > > > > > ----------------------- > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Kent Stewart" > > > > > To: "Joe Mom" ; > > > > > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 > > > > > 3:18 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: Portupgrade failing to upgrade a port > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday 21 April 2003 12:03 pm, Joe Mom wrote: > > > > > > > Any progress made on this yet? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am currently getting the same error. I have done a cvsup > > > > > > > multiple times, with no luck. > > > > > > > > > > > > A cvsup of ports-all without a "make index" and running > > > > > > "portsdb -u" doesn't count. No matter how many times you run > > > > > > cvsup. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have updated all of these ports without problems. I go an > > > > > > extra step and usually do things like "portupgrade -pufr > > > > > > freetype2" and etc. If you don't force, you only get the > > > > > > latest changes and some of these are libraries that are used > > > > > > by later builds. If you don't force rebuild the ports using > > > > > > the changed one, they are still using the old one. If the > > > > > > header files changed with the upgrade, you don't have any > > > > > > idea what your port is doing. > > > > > > > > > > > > Kent > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------- > > > > > > > Joe Mom > > > > > > > "Drain us of life and cleanse the mess" > > > > > > > MuDvAyNe > > > > > > > ----------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello you all, > > > > > > > I've made a complete reinstall, made a make world, > > > > > > > recompiled the kernel during the last week-end. So I've > > > > > > > come to the last step of syncronizing my port tree. While > > > > > > > upgrading my ports, I've got this while updating > > > > > > > XF86-clients > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > > > > > > usr/include/stdlib.h:110: warning: ANSI C does not support > > > > > > > `long long' /usr/include/stdlib.h:114: warning: ANSI C does > > > > > > > not support `long long' cc -O -pipe -ansi -pedantic > > > > > > > -Dasm=__asm -Wall -Wpointer-arith > > > > > > > -I/usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients/work/xc > > > > > > > -I/usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients/work/xc/exports/include > > > > > > > -I/usr/X11R6/include -DCSRG_BASED -DFUNCPROTO=15 > > > > > > > -DNARROWPROTO -DMITSHM -DXFT `pkg-config xft --cflags` -c > > > > > > > do_text.c do_text.c:403: X11/Xft/Xft.h: No such file or > > > > > > > directory In file included from x11perf.h:28, > > > > > > > from do_text.c:26: > > > > > > > /usr/include/stdlib.h:110: warning: ANSI C does not support > > > > > > > `long long' /usr/include/stdlib.h:114: warning: ANSI C does > > > > > > > not support `long long' do_text.c:405: syntax error before > > > > > > > `*' do_text.c:405: warning: type defaults to `int' in > > > > > > > declaration of `aafont' do_text.c:405: ANSI C forbids data > > > > > > > definition with no type or storage class do_text.c:406: > > > > > > > syntax error before `*' do_text.c:406: warning: type > > > > > > > defaults to `int' in declaration of `aadraw' do_text.c:406: > > > > > > > ANSI C forbids data definition with no type or storage > > > > > > > class do_text.c:407: syntax error before `aacolor' > > > > > > > do_text.c:407: warning: type defaults to `int' in > > > > > > > declaration of `aacolor' do_text.c:407: ANSI C forbids data > > > > > > > definition with no type or storage class do_text.c: In > > > > > > > function `InitAAText': > > > > > > > do_text.c:416: warning: implicit declaration of function > > > > > > > `XftFontOpenName' do_text.c:416: warning: assignment makes > > > > > > > pointer from integer without a cast do_text.c:425: warning: > > > > > > > implicit declaration of function `XftDrawCreate' > > > > > > > do_text.c:427: warning: assignment makes pointer from > > > > > > > integer without a cast do_text.c:432: warning: implicit > > > > > > > declaration of function `XftFontClose' do_text.c:439: > > > > > > > warning: implicit declaration of function > > > > > > > `XftColorAllocValue' do_text.c:446: warning: implicit > > > > > > > declaration of function `XftDrawDestroy' do_text.c:453: > > > > > > > request for member `height' in something not a structure or > > > > > > > union do_text.c: In function `DoAAText': > > > > > > > do_text.c:483: warning: implicit declaration of function > > > > > > > `XftDrawString8' do_text.c: In function `EndAAText': > > > > > > > do_text.c:508: warning: implicit declaration of function > > > > > > > `XftColorFree' *** Error code 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stop in > > > > > > > /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients/work/xc/programs/x11perf. > > > > > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients/work/xc/programs. > > > > > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients. > > > > > > > ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa > > > > > > > /tmp/portupgrade75378.9 make > > > > > > > ** Fix the problem and try again. > > > > > > > ---> Build of x11/XFree86-4-clients ended at: Tue, 25 Feb > > > > > > > 2003 10:38:37 -0500 (consumed 00:03:00) > > > > > > > ---> Upgrade of x11/XFree86-4-clients ended at: Tue, 25 > > > > > > > Feb 2003 10:38:37 -0500 (consumed 00:03:06) > > > > > > > ** No need to upgrade 'XFree86-fontEncodings-4.2.0' (>= > > > > > > > XFree86-fontEncodings-4.2.0). (specify -f to force) > > > > > > > ** No need to upgrade 'XFree86-font75dpi-4.2.0' (>= > > > > > > > XFree86-font75dpi-4.2.0). (specify -f to force) > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________ > > > > > > > I also got this while upgrading Mozilla: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > usr/include/stdlib.h:110: warning: ANSI C does not support > > > > > > > `long long' /usr/include/stdlib.h:114: warning: ANSI C does > > > > > > > not support `long long' cc -O -pipe -ansi -pedantic > > > > > > > -Dasm=__asm -Wall -Wpointer-arith > > > > > > > -I/usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients/work/xc > > > > > > > -I/usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients/work/xc/exports/include > > > > > > > -I/usr/X11R6/include -DCSRG_BASED -DFUNCPROTO=15 > > > > > > > -DNARROWPROTO -DMITSHM -DXFT `pkg-config xft --cflags` -c > > > > > > > do_text.c do_text.c:403: X11/Xft/Xft.h: No such file or > > > > > > > directory In file included from x11perf.h:28, > > > > > > > from do_text.c:26: > > > > > > > /usr/include/stdlib.h:110: warning: ANSI C does not support > > > > > > > `long long' /usr/include/stdlib.h:114: warning: ANSI C does > > > > > > > not support `long long' do_text.c:405: syntax error before > > > > > > > `*' do_text.c:405: warning: type defaults to `int' in > > > > > > > declaration of `aafont' do_text.c:405: ANSI C forbids data > > > > > > > definition with no type or storage class do_text.c:406: > > > > > > > syntax error before `*' do_text.c:406: warning: type > > > > > > > defaults to `int' in declaration of `aadraw' do_text.c:406: > > > > > > > ANSI C forbids data definition with no type or storage > > > > > > > class do_text.c:407: syntax error before `aacolor' > > > > > > > do_text.c:407: warning: type defaults to `int' in > > > > > > > declaration of `aacolor' do_text.c:407: ANSI C forbids data > > > > > > > definition with no type or storage class do_text.c: In > > > > > > > function `InitAAText': > > > > > > > do_text.c:416: warning: implicit declaration of function > > > > > > > `XftFontOpenName' do_text.c:416: warning: assignment makes > > > > > > > pointer from integer without a cast do_text.c:425: warning: > > > > > > > implicit declaration of function `XftDrawCreate' > > > > > > > do_text.c:427: warning: assignment makes pointer from > > > > > > > integer without a cast do_text.c:432: warning: implicit > > > > > > > declaration of function `XftFontClose' do_text.c:439: > > > > > > > warning: implicit declaration of function > > > > > > > `XftColorAllocValue' do_text.c:446: warning: implicit > > > > > > > declaration of function `XftDrawDestroy' do_text.c:453: > > > > > > > request for member `height' in something not a structure or > > > > > > > union do_text.c: In function `DoAAText': > > > > > > > do_text.c:483: warning: implicit declaration of function > > > > > > > `XftDrawString8' do_text.c: In function `EndAAText': > > > > > > > do_text.c:508: warning: implicit declaration of function > > > > > > > `XftColorFree' *** Error code 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stop in > > > > > > > /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients/work/xc/programs/x11perf. > > > > > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients/work/xc/programs. > > > > > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients. > > > > > > > ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa > > > > > > > /tmp/portupgrade75378.9 make > > > > > > > ** Fix the problem and try again. > > > > > > > ---> Build of x11/XFree86-4-clients ended at: Tue, 25 Feb > > > > > > > 2003 10:38:37 -0500 (consumed 00:03:00) > > > > > > > ---> Upgrade of x11/XFree86-4-clients ended at: Tue, 25 > > > > > > > Feb 2003 10:38:37 -0500 (consumed 00:03:06) > > > > > > > ** No need to upgrade 'XFree86-fontEncodings-4.2.0' (>= > > > > > > > XFree86-fontEncodings-4.2.0). (specify -f to force) > > > > > > > ** No need to upgrade 'XFree86-font75dpi-4.2.0' (>= > > > > > > > XFree86-font75dpi-4.2.0). (specify -f to force) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Should I cvsup again ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the > > > > > > > message _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > > > > > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Kent Stewart > > > > > > Richland, WA > > > > > > > > > > > > http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Kent Stewart > > > > Richland, WA > > > > > > > > http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html > > -- > Kent Stewart > Richland, WA > > http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 11:29:54 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6F2B37B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 11:29:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp-out.comcast.net (smtp-out.comcast.net [24.153.64.116]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4558A43FA3 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 11:29:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jshamlet@comcast.net) Received: from whitetower (bgp01561290bgs.gambrl01.md.comcast.net [68.50.33.221]) by mtaout01.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.12 (built Feb 13 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HDR0025RC6A87@mtaout01.icomcast.net> for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:18:11 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:18:10 -0400 (EDT) From: "J. Seth Henry" X-X-Sender: jshamlet@whitetower.gambrl01.md.comcast.net To: beemern@ksu.edu Message-id: <20030422135004.P2835-100000@whitetower.gambrl01.md.comcast.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: linux/freebsd kernel differences X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 18:29:55 -0000 Nathan, For the most part, this is a religious argument - as both operating systems perform very well in a server role. As with every question of this nature, the devil is in the details. First, hardware support isn't an issue, unless your server has hardware that the OS doesn't support (and that you need). For example, I run FreeBSD 4.7-REL on a serverworks board. FreeBSD has a real issue with the onboard IDE ports (at least it did in 4.7-REL, I understand it improved in 4.8) and can't use the system monitoring capabilities of the board. However, I only use SCSI devices, and the machine is monitored with other sensor systems. Would linux have been a better choice? Perhaps, but I'm most comfortable with FreeBSD, and the lack of hardware support for these features wasn't a show stopper. Second, what is the purpose of the server. Yes, I know, you said NFS server, but how many users, what kind of load, etc. Linux does a remarkable job under low to moderate load. In many cases, it even surpasses FreeBSD, which takes a much more moderate approach - until you start reaching heavy loads. Then, Linux' performance begins to drop off sharply. FreeBSD, on the other hand, reaches a plateau early on - but can maintain performance across a wide spectrum of loads. It's kind of like the tortoise and the hare, slow and steady wins the race - if the race is long. However, if your users need quick bursts of speed, and sustained performance isn't an issue, then Linux may be the better choice. Third, consider that, reliability wise, Linux is a crapshoot - largely because a kernel is not the same as an operating system. Some distros are very reliable, but use older kernels, and better tested versions of packages - while others are less conservative, use "newer" packages, and suffer as a result. Ironically, the most stable Linux distros have largely the same device support as FreeBSD - but you at least have the choice. FreeBSD, on the other hand, is a single "product" if you will. It is engineered for reliability - unless you go playing in the CVS trees. All in all, I have found FreeBSD to be more reliable than Linux, but then, I am no longer a heavy Linux user (so take that statement with a grain of salt) Lastly, consider who is going to be the machines caretaker. IOW - who is going to support this box down the road. Sure, you love FreeBSD, but will the next admin? Unless you are a career admin, consider that more people have experience running Linux than FreeBSD. I have had to make some tough choices due to this. Do I install what I prefer, or do I plan ahead and save the next guy some grief? For example, some nutjob where I work thought ksh was the best shell ever - so we are all forced to use it as well. I *HATE* ksh so much, I statically linked my own copy of tcsh and keep it hidden in my workspace. I have to kill out of it when I have problems, though, or risk making this certain someone angry... ;) Of course, if you can administer a Linux box, you can administer a FreeBSD box with little difficulty. It took me about a month to master the most common of FreeBSD's system administration idiosyncracies. If anything, it is actually simpler. Things just "work" for the most part. However, your colleagues may have a point if they bring this issue up. To be honest, you might consider it. So, I would posit two questions, 'Why Linux?' and 'Why NOT FreeBSD?' At least make your colleagues think about the strengths that it offers, and the weaknesses it suffers. It will also force them to come up with reasons "Why Linux" It's not a slam dunk, like it would be if you were talking about a desktop system. However, I believe that FreeBSD can stand up to Linux any day in the server field, and do very well. Either way, the most important goal is a server that performs well in your application, and is easy to take care of. Good luck, Seth > theres an argument here in our office about linux vs. freebsd > > we're building a new nfs server for our entire dept, and i suggested > using fbsd, however, an opponent put forth linux and said that: > > "there is no difference between linux and freebsd kernels, except that > linux has much better driver support.. WHY use obscure freebsd?" > > anyone got any ammo i can use here? i'd really rather use fbsd since i'm > much more familar with it and its never let me down (except in the area > of native java support), and i believe it'd be perfect for our nfs box > > but i'll need some good concrete evidence to make my case.. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 11:35:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB65737B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 11:35:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotmail.com (f32.law14.hotmail.com [64.4.21.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75D5943F3F for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 11:35:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robcook86@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 11:35:14 -0700 Received: from 66.150.201.162 by lw14fd.law14.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 18:35:12 GMT X-Originating-IP: [66.150.201.162] X-Originating-Email: [robcook86@hotmail.com] From: "Rob Cook" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 18:35:12 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Apr 2003 18:35:14.0142 (UTC) FILETIME=[E9F547E0:01C308FD] Subject: Release CD booting problems. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 18:35:15 -0000 Im currently working on a custom distribution, based on RELENG_4_7_0_RELEASE, including a modified boot.flp image. The CDs I've produced are bootable and readable on a wide range of machines I have availible for testing. All except two of them, a compaq dl380 rev01, and a homebuilt system (wich can read it in one of it's drives, but not the other). The two problem machines have no problem booting and reading a cd made by a stock "make release", but when it comes to my custom discs, they can neither boot, nor read them at all, while other machines have no problems with either the stock or custom discs. This problem only occurs when I modify the boot.flp image, specificaly, the mfsroot filesystem contained within. As I'm using the same brand CDs for burning both the stock release and the custom release, and the custom becomes unreadable on only two of my systems, I am completely stumped. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 11:38:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0272B37B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 11:38:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conure.mail.pas.earthlink.net (conure.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62FF343FDD for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 11:38:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from deepbsd@earthlink.net) Received: from user-119a2km.biz.mindspring.com ([66.149.10.150] helo=sylvester.dsj.net) by conure.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1982ea-0000Jj-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 11:38:04 -0700 Received: from sylvester.dsj.net (dsj@localhost [127.0.0.1]) h3MIbwjv021282 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:38:00 -0400 Received: (from dsj@localhost) by sylvester.dsj.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-5) id h3MIbsgH021281 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:37:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: sylvester.dsj.net: dsj set sender to deepbsd@earthlink.net using -f Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:37:53 -0400 From: "David S. Jackson" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030422183753.GA21268@sylvester.dsj.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Subject: pkgdb -F error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "David S. Jackson" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 18:38:08 -0000 When I run pkgdb -F I get the following error: [...snip...] ** Error occured reading /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf: undefined method `+' for nil [...snip...] Can anyone shed some light on this for me? I may be completely misunderstanding the error, but the only '+' symbols I see in pkgtools.conf are: [...snip...] **ROOT**@juno /usr/ports/sysutils/portupgrade]# grep '+' \ /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf # string: '...' or "..."; use the `+' operator to concatinate # array: [ value, ... ]; use the `+' operator to concatinate # ENV['PORTS_INDEX'] ||= ENV['PORTSDIR'] + '/INDEX' # ENV['PACKAGES'] ||= ENV['PORTSDIR'] + '/packages' # ENV['PORTS_INDEX'] ||= ENV['PORTSDIR'] + '/INDEX.txt' # ENV['PKG_PATH'] ||= ENV['PACKAGES'] + '/All' ENV['PKG_PATH'] ||= ENV['PACKAGES'] + '/All' # 'databases/mysql323-server' => localbase() + # '/etc/rc.d/mysql-server.sh start', # 'ja-Canna' => 'cd ' + localbase() + '/etc/rc.d && mv # canna.sh canna.sh.noauto', # '-v -l /var/tmp/portupgrade.results " + \ **ROOT**@juno /usr/ports/sysutils/portupgrade]# [...snip...] Thanks in advance! -- David S. Jackson dsj@dsj.net =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= My friend has a baby. I'm writing down all the noises he makes so later I can ask him what he meant. -- Steven Wright From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 11:45:56 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E99E37B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 11:45:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grumpy.dyndns.org (user-24-214-34-52.knology.net [24.214.34.52]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2FD243FA3 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 11:45:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dkelly@grumpy.dyndns.org) Received: from grumpy.dyndns.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grumpy.dyndns.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h3MIjs14013556 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 13:45:54 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dkelly@grumpy.dyndns.org) Received: (from dkelly@localhost) by grumpy.dyndns.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h3MIjsFt013555 for FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 13:45:54 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 13:45:54 -0500 From: David Kelly To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20030422184554.GA13432@grumpy.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Accurate time without a network connection? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 18:45:56 -0000 Looking for options to keep system time moderately accurate at a site without network access. So the normal application of ntpd over IP is not viable. Dialup modem not allowed either. Definition of "moderately accurate": doesn't have to be any better than I can set my watch, travel to the site, and set the system time. It just has to eliminate "travel to the site." A GPS is one possible solution using the appropriate ntpd driver. Am not sure I can place the GPS antenna in a suitable location. A WWV receiver would be another viable option but I am not having any great success in finding a prebuilt receiver with decoder suitable for direct connection to serial port and ntpd. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 12:07:34 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B826F37B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 12:07:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from postfix3-1.free.fr (postfix3-1.free.fr [213.228.0.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E38E843FBF for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 12:07:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from americins@free.fr) Received: from FAMILIALE (nas-cbv-7-62-147-153-173.dial.proxad.net [62.147.153.173]) by postfix3-1.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id C1E1EC186 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 21:07:31 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <001601c30902$6d64c110$ad99933e@FAMILIALE> From: "dufresne.patrick" To: Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 21:06:23 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 19:07:35 -0000 OK bien re�u From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 12:16:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3ED737B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 12:16:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from astarte.volker.de (p50891B7D.dip.t-dialin.net [80.137.27.125]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 837B443F93 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 12:16:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@secspace.de) Received: from astarte.volker.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by astarte.volker.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h3MJGBeK041537 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 21:16:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@secspace.de) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 21:16:11 +0200 From: Volker Kindermann To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20030422211611.10aa753a.freebsd@secspace.de> In-Reply-To: <20030422184554.GA13432@grumpy.dyndns.org> References: <20030422184554.GA13432@grumpy.dyndns.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.10claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.7) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Accurate time without a network connection? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 19:16:15 -0000 Hi David, > Looking for options to keep system time moderately accurate at a site > without network access. So the normal application of ntpd over IP is > not viable. Dialup modem not allowed either. there are external, atomic watch controlled clocks for the serial port. Look at your electronic dealer. -volker From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 12:24:59 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7771137B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 12:24:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (A17-250-248-89.apple.com [17.250.248.89]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC4AF43F85 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 12:24:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtp02.mac.com (asmtp02-qfe3 [10.13.10.66]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id h3MJOwjC020012 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 12:24:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mac.com ([68.161.244.25]) by asmtp02.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HDRF9M00.J42 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 12:24:58 -0700 Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 15:26:19 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Charles Swiger To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <20030422184554.GA13432@grumpy.dyndns.org> Message-Id: <4B518202-74F8-11D7-BCB7-003065ABFD92@mac.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Subject: Re: Accurate time without a network connection? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 19:24:59 -0000 On Tuesday, April 22, 2003, at 02:45 PM, David Kelly wrote: > Looking for options to keep system time moderately accurate at a site > without network access. So the normal application of ntpd over IP is > not viable. Dialup modem not allowed either. > > Definition of "moderately accurate": doesn't have to be any better than > I can set my watch, travel to the site, and set the system time. It > just > has to eliminate "travel to the site." Ok. If you run NTPD with only the local hardware clock for a reference, wait for a week, and then see how the intrinsic drift of the hardware compares with "real time" (using your watch or some other time source), you can adjust /etc/ntp.drift by hand. This isn't going to be perfect, but it's going to be much more accurate than doing nothing. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 12:25:49 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEC6D37B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 12:25:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from amsfep12-int.chello.nl (amsfep12-int.chello.nl [213.46.243.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 780E343F85 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 12:25:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from y.christoforou@chello.nl) Received: from clientpcwin98 ([213.93.13.229]) by amsfep12-int.chello.nl (InterMail vM.5.01.05.17 201-253-122-126-117-20021021) with SMTP id <20030422192547.FAPL7153.amsfep12-int.chello.nl@clientpcwin98>; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 21:25:47 +0200 Message-ID: <04cf01c30904$43694f00$0200a8c0@remotebook.net> From: "Yorgos Christoforou" To: "Simon Barner" References: <01e301c30845$fe0657a0$0200a8c0@remotebook.net> <20030421220742.GD53926@zi025.glhnet.mhn.de> <027901c3085b$2780bb60$0200a8c0@remotebook.net> <20030422003025.GB55056@zi025.glhnet.mhn.de> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 21:20:40 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: postfix port download fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 19:25:50 -0000 hello thanks for your tip, i used add_pkg and voila ! it has been installed ! i rebooted my system and now sendmail is replaced by postfix. i go on with configuration thanks a lot ! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Barner" To: "Yorgos Christoforou" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 2:30 AM Subject: Re: postfix port download fails From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 12:28:46 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48A9337B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 12:28:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rutger.owt.com (rutger.owt.com [204.118.6.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C430643FCB for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 12:28:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from topaz-out (owt-207-41-94-233.owt.com [207.41.94.233]) by rutger.owt.com (8.11.6p2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h3MJSaV22010; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 12:28:36 -0700 From: Kent Stewart To: "Joe Mom" , Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 12:28:35 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 References: <001001c30838$a60ee290$500dbace@call.gtn.ca> <200304221055.41056.kstewart@owt.com> <00d301c308fc$1aef3150$500dbace@call.gtn.ca> In-Reply-To: <00d301c308fc$1aef3150$500dbace@call.gtn.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200304221228.35670.kstewart@owt.com> Subject: Re: Portupgrade failing to upgrade a port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 19:28:46 -0000 On Tuesday 22 April 2003 11:22 am, Joe Mom wrote: > This is the only thing that shows up. > > ezmlm-idx-0.40_2 --> qmail-1.03_1 This looks like part of a message that is telling you that you need to run "pkgdb -F" and fix your port database. Don't cvsup ports-all for a while because I just tried running my script that cvsup's ports-all. The make index part dies and only gives me 626 ports right now. Some one has broken "make index" and I will have to update my local mirror to see if it has been fixed. That takes a while. > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org is the correct list no? > I am doing a reply all to your email and mine gets through. So, it is something else. Kent > ----------------------- > Joe Mom > "Drain us of life and cleanse the mess" > MuDvAyNe > ----------------------- > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kent Stewart" > To: "Joe Mom" ; > Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 1:55 PM > Subject: Re: Portupgrade failing to upgrade a port > > > On Tuesday 22 April 2003 09:39 am, Joe Mom wrote: > > > I have also just attempted: > > > > > > # portinstall -rf XFree86-clients-4.3.0_1 > > > > > > which resulted in the following: > > > > > > do_text.c:453: request for member `height' in something not a > > > structure or union > > > do_text.c: In function `DoAAText': > > > do_text.c:483: warning: implicit declaration of function > > > `XftDrawString8' do_text.c: In function `EndAAText': > > > do_text.c:508: warning: implicit declaration of function > > > `XftColorFree' *** Error code 1 > > > > This looks like you have an old version of Xft. Run > > "portversion -c | more" and see what all you need to upgrade. > > > > The other thing is why aren't your messages showing up on > > -questions. > > > > Kent > > > > > Stop in > > > /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients/work/xc/programs/x11perf. *** > > > Error code 1 > > > > > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients/work/xc/programs. > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients. > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients. > > > ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa > > > /tmp/portinstall51076.0 make -DFORCE_PKG_REGISTER reinstall > > > ** Fix the installation problem and try again. > > > ** The following packages were not installed or upgraded > > > (*:skipped / !:failed) > > > ! x11/XFree86-4-clients (install error) > > > > > > ----------------------- > > > Joe Mom > > > "Drain us of life and cleanse the mess" > > > MuDvAyNe > > > ----------------------- > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Joe Mom" > > > To: "Kent Stewart" ; > > > Cc: > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 10:42 AM > > > Subject: Re: Portupgrade failing to upgrade a port > > > > > > > K, now I have done everything that you stated below. and I am > > > > still > > > > > > getting > > > > > > > this error. > > > > > > > > Any other Ideas? > > > > > > > > > > > > p2 300 > > > > 128mb sdram > > > > 6gb Quantum fireball > > > > ati rage fury video > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------- > > > > Joe Mom > > > > "Drain us of life and cleanse the mess" > > > > MuDvAyNe > > > > ----------------------- > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Kent Stewart" > > > > To: "Joe Mom" ; > > > > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 > > > > 4:03 PM > > > > Subject: Re: Portupgrade failing to upgrade a port > > > > > > > > > On Monday 21 April 2003 12:46 pm, Joe Mom wrote: > > > > > > make index > > > > > > > > > > > > Wouldn't that only apply if I was building from sysinstall? > > > > > > > > > > > > Because I have done cvsup in the past to update things like > > > > > > gnome and its worked without any extra commands executed. > > > > > > > > > > No, you haven't paid attention to the date on > > > > > /usr/ports/INDEX. Kris only updates on something like 4-6 > > > > > week intervals and it is only current for a few minutes on > > > > > the day he updates it. > > > > > > > > > > Kent > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------- > > > > > > Joe Mom > > > > > > "Drain us of life and cleanse the mess" > > > > > > MuDvAyNe > > > > > > ----------------------- > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "Kent Stewart" > > > > > > To: "Joe Mom" ; > > > > > > Sent: Monday, April 21, > > > > > > 2003 3:18 PM > > > > > > Subject: Re: Portupgrade failing to upgrade a port > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday 21 April 2003 12:03 pm, Joe Mom wrote: > > > > > > > > Any progress made on this yet? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am currently getting the same error. I have done a > > > > > > > > cvsup multiple times, with no luck. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A cvsup of ports-all without a "make index" and running > > > > > > > "portsdb -u" doesn't count. No matter how many times you > > > > > > > run cvsup. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have updated all of these ports without problems. I go > > > > > > > an extra step and usually do things like "portupgrade > > > > > > > -pufr freetype2" and etc. If you don't force, you only > > > > > > > get the latest changes and some of these are libraries > > > > > > > that are used by later builds. If you don't force rebuild > > > > > > > the ports using the changed one, they are still using the > > > > > > > old one. If the header files changed with the upgrade, > > > > > > > you don't have any idea what your port is doing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kent > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------- > > > > > > > > Joe Mom > > > > > > > > "Drain us of life and cleanse the mess" > > > > > > > > MuDvAyNe > > > > > > > > ----------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello you all, > > > > > > > > I've made a complete reinstall, made a make world, > > > > > > > > recompiled the kernel during the last week-end. So I've > > > > > > > > come to the last step of syncronizing my port tree. > > > > > > > > While upgrading my ports, I've got this while updating > > > > > > > > XF86-clients > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > usr/include/stdlib.h:110: warning: ANSI C does not > > > > > > > > support `long long' /usr/include/stdlib.h:114: warning: > > > > > > > > ANSI C does not support `long long' cc -O -pipe -ansi > > > > > > > > -pedantic -Dasm=__asm -Wall -Wpointer-arith > > > > > > > > -I/usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients/work/xc > > > > > > > > -I/usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients/work/xc/exports/incl > > > > > > > >ude -I/usr/X11R6/include -DCSRG_BASED -DFUNCPROTO=15 > > > > > > > > -DNARROWPROTO -DMITSHM -DXFT `pkg-config xft --cflags` > > > > > > > > -c do_text.c do_text.c:403: X11/Xft/Xft.h: No such file > > > > > > > > or directory In file included from x11perf.h:28, > > > > > > > > from do_text.c:26: > > > > > > > > /usr/include/stdlib.h:110: warning: ANSI C does not > > > > > > > > support `long long' /usr/include/stdlib.h:114: warning: > > > > > > > > ANSI C does not support `long long' do_text.c:405: > > > > > > > > syntax error before `*' do_text.c:405: warning: type > > > > > > > > defaults to `int' in declaration of `aafont' > > > > > > > > do_text.c:405: ANSI C forbids data definition with no > > > > > > > > type or storage class do_text.c:406: syntax error > > > > > > > > before `*' do_text.c:406: warning: type defaults to > > > > > > > > `int' in declaration of `aadraw' do_text.c:406: ANSI C > > > > > > > > forbids data definition with no type or storage class > > > > > > > > do_text.c:407: syntax error before `aacolor' > > > > > > > > do_text.c:407: warning: type defaults to `int' in > > > > > > > > declaration of `aacolor' do_text.c:407: ANSI C forbids > > > > > > > > data definition with no type or storage class > > > > > > > > do_text.c: In function `InitAAText': > > > > > > > > do_text.c:416: warning: implicit declaration of > > > > > > > > function `XftFontOpenName' do_text.c:416: warning: > > > > > > > > assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast > > > > > > > > do_text.c:425: warning: implicit declaration of > > > > > > > > function `XftDrawCreate' do_text.c:427: warning: > > > > > > > > assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast > > > > > > > > do_text.c:432: warning: implicit declaration of > > > > > > > > function `XftFontClose' do_text.c:439: warning: > > > > > > > > implicit declaration of function > > > > > > > > `XftColorAllocValue' do_text.c:446: warning: implicit > > > > > > > > declaration of function `XftDrawDestroy' do_text.c:453: > > > > > > > > request for member `height' in something not a > > > > > > > > structure or union do_text.c: In function `DoAAText': > > > > > > > > do_text.c:483: warning: implicit declaration of > > > > > > > > function `XftDrawString8' do_text.c: In function > > > > > > > > `EndAAText': do_text.c:508: warning: implicit > > > > > > > > declaration of function `XftColorFree' *** Error code 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stop in > > > > > > > > /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients/work/xc/programs/x11pe > > > > > > > >rf. *** Error code 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stop in > > > > > > > > /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients/work/xc/programs. *** > > > > > > > > Error code 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients. > > > > > > > > ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa > > > > > > > > /tmp/portupgrade75378.9 make > > > > > > > > ** Fix the problem and try again. > > > > > > > > ---> Build of x11/XFree86-4-clients ended at: Tue, 25 > > > > > > > > Feb 2003 10:38:37 -0500 (consumed 00:03:00) > > > > > > > > ---> Upgrade of x11/XFree86-4-clients ended at: Tue, > > > > > > > > 25 Feb 2003 10:38:37 -0500 (consumed 00:03:06) > > > > > > > > ** No need to upgrade 'XFree86-fontEncodings-4.2.0' (>= > > > > > > > > XFree86-fontEncodings-4.2.0). (specify -f to force) > > > > > > > > ** No need to upgrade 'XFree86-font75dpi-4.2.0' (>= > > > > > > > > XFree86-font75dpi-4.2.0). (specify -f to force) > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > I also got this while upgrading Mozilla: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > usr/include/stdlib.h:110: warning: ANSI C does not > > > > > > > > support `long long' /usr/include/stdlib.h:114: warning: > > > > > > > > ANSI C does not support `long long' cc -O -pipe -ansi > > > > > > > > -pedantic -Dasm=__asm -Wall -Wpointer-arith > > > > > > > > -I/usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients/work/xc > > > > > > > > -I/usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients/work/xc/exports/incl > > > > > > > >ude -I/usr/X11R6/include -DCSRG_BASED -DFUNCPROTO=15 > > > > > > > > -DNARROWPROTO -DMITSHM -DXFT `pkg-config xft --cflags` > > > > > > > > -c do_text.c do_text.c:403: X11/Xft/Xft.h: No such file > > > > > > > > or directory In file included from x11perf.h:28, > > > > > > > > from do_text.c:26: > > > > > > > > /usr/include/stdlib.h:110: warning: ANSI C does not > > > > > > > > support `long long' /usr/include/stdlib.h:114: warning: > > > > > > > > ANSI C does not support `long long' do_text.c:405: > > > > > > > > syntax error before `*' do_text.c:405: warning: type > > > > > > > > defaults to `int' in declaration of `aafont' > > > > > > > > do_text.c:405: ANSI C forbids data definition with no > > > > > > > > type or storage class do_text.c:406: syntax error > > > > > > > > before `*' do_text.c:406: warning: type defaults to > > > > > > > > `int' in declaration of `aadraw' do_text.c:406: ANSI C > > > > > > > > forbids data definition with no type or storage class > > > > > > > > do_text.c:407: syntax error before `aacolor' > > > > > > > > do_text.c:407: warning: type defaults to `int' in > > > > > > > > declaration of `aacolor' do_text.c:407: ANSI C forbids > > > > > > > > data definition with no type or storage class > > > > > > > > do_text.c: In function `InitAAText': > > > > > > > > do_text.c:416: warning: implicit declaration of > > > > > > > > function `XftFontOpenName' do_text.c:416: warning: > > > > > > > > assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast > > > > > > > > do_text.c:425: warning: implicit declaration of > > > > > > > > function `XftDrawCreate' do_text.c:427: warning: > > > > > > > > assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast > > > > > > > > do_text.c:432: warning: implicit declaration of > > > > > > > > function `XftFontClose' do_text.c:439: warning: > > > > > > > > implicit declaration of function > > > > > > > > `XftColorAllocValue' do_text.c:446: warning: implicit > > > > > > > > declaration of function `XftDrawDestroy' do_text.c:453: > > > > > > > > request for member `height' in something not a > > > > > > > > structure or union do_text.c: In function `DoAAText': > > > > > > > > do_text.c:483: warning: implicit declaration of > > > > > > > > function `XftDrawString8' do_text.c: In function > > > > > > > > `EndAAText': do_text.c:508: warning: implicit > > > > > > > > declaration of function `XftColorFree' *** Error code 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stop in > > > > > > > > /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients/work/xc/programs/x11pe > > > > > > > >rf. *** Error code 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stop in > > > > > > > > /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients/work/xc/programs. *** > > > > > > > > Error code 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients. > > > > > > > > ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa > > > > > > > > /tmp/portupgrade75378.9 make > > > > > > > > ** Fix the problem and try again. > > > > > > > > ---> Build of x11/XFree86-4-clients ended at: Tue, 25 > > > > > > > > Feb 2003 10:38:37 -0500 (consumed 00:03:00) > > > > > > > > ---> Upgrade of x11/XFree86-4-clients ended at: Tue, > > > > > > > > 25 Feb 2003 10:38:37 -0500 (consumed 00:03:06) > > > > > > > > ** No need to upgrade 'XFree86-fontEncodings-4.2.0' (>= > > > > > > > > XFree86-fontEncodings-4.2.0). (specify -f to force) > > > > > > > > ** No need to upgrade 'XFree86-font75dpi-4.2.0' (>= > > > > > > > > XFree86-font75dpi-4.2.0). (specify -f to force) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Should I cvsup again ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the > > > > > > > > message _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > > > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-quest > > > > > > > >ions To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > > > > > > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Kent Stewart > > > > > > > Richland, WA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Kent Stewart > > > > > Richland, WA > > > > > > > > > > http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html > > > > -- > > Kent Stewart > > Richland, WA > > > > http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 12:30:58 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CEEF37B407 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 12:30:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thunder.xecu.net (thunder.xecu.net [216.127.136.208]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15D8643FE3 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 12:30:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@xecu.net) Received: by thunder.xecu.net (Postfix, from userid 278) id 5471D24E02; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 15:30:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thunder.xecu.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B23324E01; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 15:30:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 15:30:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris McGee To: Karl Pielorz In-Reply-To: <12281990.1050599512@cat> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Promise RAID card? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 19:30:58 -0000 Sorry to bother you, but I'm trying to narrow down this problem. With your SX6000 are you using the Promise hot swappable hard drive enclosures that are included in the SX6000 Pro package? Those enclosures only show up as ATA33 when i hook them up to the motherboard's ATA100/133 controller. So are you using those? Chris On Thu, 17 Apr 2003, Karl Pielorz wrote: > > > --On 17 April 2003 11:53 -0400 Chris McGee wrote: > > > > > Has anyone successfully used the Promise SX6000 card with FreeBSD 4.7? If > > so, what kind of configuration are you using? > > Hmmm... A -hardware question :) > > I have one in an AMD Athlon 1Ghz system, with a bunch of 80Gb IDE's hanging > off it w/128Mb of RAM - using RAID5... It uses the pst driver. > > Generally seems OK, though theres a couple of us with them that get pst: > timeout messages every now and again mostly when under heavy I/O load [and > the whole machine hangs until the request is retried]. > > I'm just moving the machine with the card to 4.8-S but it doesn't look like > anything's been committed to the driver that would fix it... > > Other than the random pauses under load, I've not had any problems with it. > The other person with the timeouts reported getting panics as well - but > that could be because he had root/swap on it - whereas I just have it as a > RAID5 '/usr2' volume. > > If you do a search of the archives you'll probably find the thread(s) > covering it. > > -Kp > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Chris McGee 301-682-9972 Xecunet www.xecu.net xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Dialup * Webhosting * E-Commerce * High-Speed Access From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 12:32:53 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F7AA37B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 12:32:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grumpy.dyndns.org (user-24-214-34-52.knology.net [24.214.34.52]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87C9643FD7 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 12:32:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dkelly@grumpy.dyndns.org) Received: from grumpy.dyndns.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grumpy.dyndns.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h3MJWp14013794; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:32:51 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dkelly@grumpy.dyndns.org) Received: (from dkelly@localhost) by grumpy.dyndns.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h3MJWo6k013793; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:32:50 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:32:50 -0500 From: David Kelly To: Volker Kindermann Message-ID: <20030422193250.GA13774@grumpy.dyndns.org> References: <20030422184554.GA13432@grumpy.dyndns.org> <20030422211611.10aa753a.freebsd@secspace.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030422211611.10aa753a.freebsd@secspace.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Accurate time without a network connection? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 19:32:53 -0000 On Tue, Apr 22, 2003 at 09:16:11PM +0200, Volker Kindermann wrote: > > > Looking for options to keep system time moderately accurate at a site > > without network access. So the normal application of ntpd over IP is > > not viable. Dialup modem not allowed either. > > there are external, atomic watch controlled clocks for the serial port. > Look at your electronic dealer. I know there are, but at the moment I'm not finding any. The original was "World's Most Accurate Clock" by Heathkit, $400, but long out of business. Oregon Scientific has a lot of WWV clocks but none I could find with an external interface. Surfing http://www.ntp.org/ has turned up a lot of information but little hardware. Of most interest was use of sound card connected to radio receiver for decoding the time signals. But that's a touch exotic for this application. Else I'd use the $20 LCD "atomic clock" I have on my wall, a $25 USB "web-cam", and some sort of OCR. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 12:44:16 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59FB837B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 12:44:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grumpy.dyndns.org (user-24-214-34-52.knology.net [24.214.34.52]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81E1143F75 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 12:44:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dkelly@grumpy.dyndns.org) Received: from grumpy.dyndns.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grumpy.dyndns.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h3MJiE14013896; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:44:14 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dkelly@grumpy.dyndns.org) Received: (from dkelly@localhost) by grumpy.dyndns.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h3MJiEqq013895; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:44:14 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:44:13 -0500 From: David Kelly To: Charles Swiger Message-ID: <20030422194413.GC13774@grumpy.dyndns.org> References: <20030422184554.GA13432@grumpy.dyndns.org> <4B518202-74F8-11D7-BCB7-003065ABFD92@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B518202-74F8-11D7-BCB7-003065ABFD92@mac.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Accurate time without a network connection? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 19:44:16 -0000 On Tue, Apr 22, 2003 at 03:26:19PM -0400, Charles Swiger wrote: > > Ok. If you run NTPD with only the local hardware clock for a > reference, wait for a week, and then see how the intrinsic drift of the > hardware compares with "real time" (using your watch or some other time > source), you can adjust /etc/ntp.drift by hand. This isn't going to be > perfect, but it's going to be much more accurate than doing nothing. Good. But already tried that. The situation is multiple systems have to run with something near the same time, but no bidirectional contact. And need to operate for years. Letting ntpd tune itself and then free run works much better than the system clock alone but only good for weeks, not months. As for exactly what time the systems have, it doesn't much matter as long as they all have the same time. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 12:57:31 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9BDC37B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 12:57:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotmail.com (oe28.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.240.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AD2643F75 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 12:57:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mxsmanic@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 12:57:31 -0700 Received: from 81.50.80.3 by oe28.law8.hotmail.com with DAV; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 19:57:31 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [81.50.80.3] X-Originating-Email: [mxsmanic@hotmail.com] From: "Mxsmanic" To: "David Kelly" , References: <20030422184554.GA13432@grumpy.dyndns.org><20030422211611.10aa753a.freebsd@secspace.de> <20030422193250.GA13774@grumpy.dyndns.org> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 21:57:30 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Apr 2003 19:57:31.0078 (UTC) FILETIME=[6899EE60:01C30909] Subject: Re: Accurate time without a network connection? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 19:57:32 -0000 > I know there are, but at the moment I'm not > finding any. The original was "World's Most > Accurate Clock" by Heathkit, $400, but long out of > business. See http://www.boulder.nist.gov/timefreq/general/receiverlist.htm A fairly complete list of manufacturers of time receivers, both GPS-controlled and radio-controlled, for the U.S. only. Beware: Even the cheapest devices of this kind seem to cost several hundred dollars. A tiny serial-port radio-controlled clock from Meinberg costs �573, which is about ten times more than it is actually worth. That amount of money could pay for several years of Internet access, so unless you absolutely cannot connect to the Net, finding a way to synchronize to servers on the Net would be way cheaper. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 13:00:32 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 065A537B4D4 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 13:00:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rutger.owt.com (rutger.owt.com [204.118.6.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13B7E43F85 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 13:00:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from topaz-out (owt-207-41-94-233.owt.com [207.41.94.233]) by rutger.owt.com (8.11.6p2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h3MK0MV24034; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 13:00:22 -0700 From: Kent Stewart To: David Kelly , Charles Swiger Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 13:00:22 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 References: <20030422184554.GA13432@grumpy.dyndns.org> <4B518202-74F8-11D7-BCB7-003065ABFD92@mac.com> <20030422194413.GC13774@grumpy.dyndns.org> In-Reply-To: <20030422194413.GC13774@grumpy.dyndns.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200304221300.22051.kstewart@owt.com> cc: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Accurate time without a network connection? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 20:00:32 -0000 On Tuesday 22 April 2003 12:44 pm, David Kelly wrote: > On Tue, Apr 22, 2003 at 03:26:19PM -0400, Charles Swiger wrote: > > Ok. If you run NTPD with only the local hardware clock for a > > reference, wait for a week, and then see how the intrinsic drift of > > the hardware compares with "real time" (using your watch or some > > other time source), you can adjust /etc/ntp.drift by hand. This > > isn't going to be perfect, but it's going to be much more accurate > > than doing nothing. > > Good. But already tried that. The situation is multiple systems have > to run with something near the same time, but no bidirectional > contact. And need to operate for years. Letting ntpd tune itself and > then free run works much better than the system clock alone but only > good for weeks, not months. > > As for exactly what time the systems have, it doesn't much matter as > long as they all have the same time. It sounds like you really need an external clock that is very stable. There was a discussion on -hackers a long time ago about doing something like that. I think they were using a gps based clock for a reference. If you don't have access to a common time, nothing short of access to WWVB (the Navy Time Radio Station) would keep your time current. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 13:03:46 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57BD937B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 13:03:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rutger.owt.com (rutger.owt.com [204.118.6.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A067E43F85 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 13:03:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from topaz-out (owt-207-41-94-233.owt.com [207.41.94.233]) by rutger.owt.com (8.11.6p2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h3MK3hV24321; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 13:03:43 -0700 From: Kent Stewart To: "Joe Mom" , Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 13:03:43 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 References: <001001c30838$a60ee290$500dbace@call.gtn.ca> <00d301c308fc$1aef3150$500dbace@call.gtn.ca> <200304221228.35670.kstewart@owt.com> In-Reply-To: <200304221228.35670.kstewart@owt.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200304221303.43301.kstewart@owt.com> Subject: Re: Portupgrade failing to upgrade a port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 20:03:46 -0000 On Tuesday 22 April 2003 12:28 pm, Kent Stewart wrote: > On Tuesday 22 April 2003 11:22 am, Joe Mom wrote: > > Don't cvsup ports-all for a while because I just tried running my > script that cvsup's ports-all. The make index part dies and only > gives me 626 ports right now. Some one has broken "make index" and I > will have to update my local mirror to see if it has been fixed. > That takes a while. > The un-scheduled update to my local mirror fixed make index. It would appear that my chron based 1815 GMT update caught some changes in mid-stream. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 13:10:25 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8EA537B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 13:10:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out001.verizon.net (out001pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B459843FB1 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 13:10:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michaela@bsd.maa-net.net) Received: from lnxbox ([68.160.187.58]) by out001.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.33 201-253-122-126-133-20030313) with ESMTP id <20030422201024.KXHB12592.out001.verizon.net@lnxbox> for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 15:10:24 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: "Michael A. Alestock" To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 16:10:21 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 Organization: MAA-net X-PRIORITY: 2 (High) Priority: urgent MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200304221610.21113.michaela@bsd.maa-net.net> X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out001.verizon.net from [68.160.187.58] at Tue, 22 Apr 2003 15:10:23 -0500 Subject: Adding a new IDE harddrive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 20:10:26 -0000 I have a question...I already know how to add a new harddrive to my syste= m,=20 however, what I wanted to know is how do I use the new harddrive's space = to=20 add more space to my current filesystem's directories? Do I have to LINK= the=20 new harddrive to the old drive? How would I go about this process?? Thanks! : ) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 13:19:15 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60A4E37B404 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 13:19:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from router.jomom.net (i216-58-44-252.igs.net [216.58.44.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 34A5143FBD for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 13:19:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jomom@jomom.net) Received: (qmail 6509 invoked from network); 22 Apr 2003 20:14:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO joe) (206.186.13.80) by 0 with SMTP; 22 Apr 2003 20:14:10 -0000 Message-ID: <00e701c3090c$6fc1b850$500dbace@call.gtn.ca> From: "Joe Mom" To: "Kent Stewart" , References: <001001c30838$a60ee290$500dbace@call.gtn.ca> <200304221055.41056.kstewart@owt.com> <00d301c308fc$1aef3150$500dbace@call.gtn.ca> <200304221311.34180.kstewart@owt.com> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 16:19:10 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4920.2300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 Subject: Re: Portupgrade failing to upgrade a port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 20:19:15 -0000 k, so what do I have to do now? ----------------------- Joe Mom "Drain us of life and cleanse the mess" MuDvAyNe ----------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kent Stewart" To: "Joe Mom" Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 4:11 PM Subject: Re: Portupgrade failing to upgrade a port > On Tuesday 22 April 2003 11:22 am, you wrote: > > This is the only thing that shows up. > > > > ezmlm-idx-0.40_2 --> qmail-1.03_1 > > > > What you should have seen is something like the following: > > ruby# pkgver > # > # cvsup-mirror > # needs updating (port has 1.2_1) > # > pkgs="$pkgs cvsup-mirror-1.2" > > # > # koffice > # needs updating (port has 1.2.1_1,1) > # > pkgs="$pkgs koffice-1.2.1,1" > > # > # tcl > # needs updating (port has 8.3.5_2) > # > pkgs="$pkgs tcl-8.3.5_1" > > > if [ X"$pkgs" != X"" ]; then > portupgrade $pkgs > fi > > pkgver is my alias that does the "portversion -c | more". > > Kent > > -- > Kent Stewart > Richland, WA > > http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 13:21:16 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B57EF37B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 13:21:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rutger.owt.com (rutger.owt.com [204.118.6.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12A1E43F85 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 13:21:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from topaz-out (owt-207-41-94-233.owt.com [207.41.94.233]) by rutger.owt.com (8.11.6p2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h3MKL6V25368; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 13:21:07 -0700 From: Kent Stewart To: "Michael A. Alestock" , questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 13:21:06 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 References: <200304221610.21113.michaela@bsd.maa-net.net> In-Reply-To: <200304221610.21113.michaela@bsd.maa-net.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200304221321.06370.kstewart@owt.com> Subject: Re: Adding a new IDE harddrive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 20:21:17 -0000 On Tuesday 22 April 2003 04:10 pm, Michael A. Alestock wrote: > I have a question...I already know how to add a new harddrive to my > system, however, what I wanted to know is how do I use the new > harddrive's space to add more space to my current filesystem's > directories? Do I have to LINK the new harddrive to the old drive? > How would I go about this process?? > When I have done this, I used both ways depending on what was convenient. I have linked something like /usr/ports to /usr2/ports and etc. I have also created a /us2/ and mounted that in fstab as /usr/ports. I have done the fstab mount almost universally when it comes to /usr/src and /usr/obj. They (including the system) all are on different HDs and controllers. They are mounted in fstab. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 13:23:19 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DA1437B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 13:23:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sub21-156.member.dsl-only.net (sub21-156.member.dsl-only.net [63.105.21.156]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17DFB43FCB for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 13:23:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nkinkade@sub21-156.member.dsl-only.net) Received: from nkinkade by sub21-156.member.dsl-only.net with local (Exim 4.10) id 1984IK-000P23-00; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 13:23:12 -0700 Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 13:23:12 -0700 From: Nathan Kinkade To: "Michael A. Alestock" Message-ID: <20030422202312.GF92029@sub21-156.member.dsl-only.net> Mail-Followup-To: Nathan Kinkade , "Michael A. Alestock" , questions@freebsd.org References: <200304221610.21113.michaela@bsd.maa-net.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="TeJTyD9hb8KJN2Jy" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200304221610.21113.michaela@bsd.maa-net.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: Nathan Kinkade cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adding a new IDE harddrive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: nkinkade@fastmail.fm List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 20:23:19 -0000 --TeJTyD9hb8KJN2Jy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Apr 22, 2003 at 04:10:21PM -0700, Michael A. Alestock wrote: > I have a question...I already know how to add a new harddrive to my syste= m,=20 > however, what I wanted to know is how do I use the new harddrive's space = to=20 > add more space to my current filesystem's directories? Do I have to LINK= the=20 > new harddrive to the old drive? How would I go about this process?? >=20 > Thanks! : ) It's in the FreeBSD FAQ. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#ADDING-DISKS Nathan --=20 GPG Public Key ID: 0x4250A04C gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 4250A04C http://63.105.21.156/gpg_nkinkade_4250A04C.asc --TeJTyD9hb8KJN2Jy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+paSwWZYS9EJQoEwRAodRAJ9g2Z3qmO3/pceXhAuiS9DJmYejdACffVCd R6tZ8xteY9pDk669APpNULY= =9Iq+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --TeJTyD9hb8KJN2Jy-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 13:28:09 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1565A37B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 13:28:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.hitmedia.com (mail.hitmedia.com [205.162.11.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 698F943FDD for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 13:28:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsdlap@hitmedia.com) Received: (qmail 39557 invoked by uid 0); 22 Apr 2003 20:28:08 -0000 Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 13:28:08 -0700 From: BSD baby To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030422202808.GA39045@mail.hitmedia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Subject: PCMCIA network card advice? Example rc.conf please? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 20:28:09 -0000 An odd problem: I'm using a Linksys PCM100 PCMCIA network card on my laptop. Works fine in Windows. It's on the FreeBSD approved hardware list. When I install FreeBSD 4.8 from the CD-Rom, it detects it, and I configure it. (Which yes I know how to do. I do it all the time for regular installs.) But - when the laptop boots up, it doesn't seem to see the card. No route to host, etc. I wonder if this has to do with the PCMCIA abilities being turned on in the rc.conf *after* it's given the hostname, route, IP, etc? I'm just using the absolute default settings, so I don't think I'm doing anything wrong. (I haven't done anything yet!) Just wondering if those of you with PCMCIA network cards could offer some advice or maybe your /etc/rc.conf file as an example? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 13:34:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1A3B37B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 13:34:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rain.CC.Lehigh.EDU (rain.CC.Lehigh.EDU [128.180.39.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0436E43F85 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 13:34:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pat2@lehigh.edu) Received: from lehigh.edu (r075030.res.Lehigh.EDU [128.180.75.30]) by rain.CC.Lehigh.EDU (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h3MKY2d4026406 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 16:34:02 -0400 Message-ID: <3EA5A728.2010607@lehigh.edu> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 16:33:44 -0400 From: Paul Tsai User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20030324 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Palm Pilot & Freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 20:34:05 -0000 Hello All, I just got a palm pilot from my sister. It's a m130. I was wondering about any good "unofficial" advice about connecting it to Freebsd. Which software is good (there are 34 choices in ports). Are there any good games I can download to the palm? Also, my kernel detect a selfpowered device on uhub0 (the cradle) is this all I need? Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 13:43:02 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 025CA37B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 13:43:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from router.jomom.net (i216-58-44-252.igs.net [216.58.44.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C22FD43FA3 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 13:43:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jomom@jomom.net) Received: (qmail 15360 invoked from network); 22 Apr 2003 20:37:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO joe) (206.186.13.80) by 0 with SMTP; 22 Apr 2003 20:37:57 -0000 Message-ID: <00fb01c3090f$c2196730$500dbace@call.gtn.ca> From: "Joe Mom" To: "Kent Stewart" , References: <001001c30838$a60ee290$500dbace@call.gtn.ca> <200304221311.34180.kstewart@owt.com> <00e701c3090c$6fc1b850$500dbace@call.gtn.ca> <200304221329.12154.kstewart@owt.com> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 16:41:14 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4920.2300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 Subject: Re: Portupgrade failing to upgrade a port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 20:43:02 -0000 Here is the output of that command, I don't see any mention of Xft needing upgrades. # # XFree86-FontServer # needs updating (port has 4.3.0) # pkgs="$pkgs XFree86-FontServer-4.2.0" # # XFree86-Server # needs updating (port has 4.3.0_3) # pkgs="$pkgs XFree86-Server-4.2.1_3" # # XFree86-documents # needs updating (port has 4.3.0) # pkgs="$pkgs XFree86-documents-4.2.0" # # XFree86-font100dpi # needs updating (port has 4.3.0) # pkgs="$pkgs XFree86-font100dpi-4.2.0" # # XFree86-font75dpi # needs updating (port has 4.3.0) # pkgs="$pkgs XFree86-font75dpi-4.2.0" # # XFree86-fontCyrillic # needs updating (port has 4.3.0) # pkgs="$pkgs XFree86-fontCyrillic-4.2.0_4" # # XFree86-fontDefaultBitmaps # needs updating (port has 4.3.0) # pkgs="$pkgs XFree86-fontDefaultBitmaps-4.2.0" # # XFree86-fontEncodings # needs updating (port has 4.3.0) # pkgs="$pkgs XFree86-fontEncodings-4.2.0" # # XFree86-fontScalable # needs updating (port has 4.3.0) # pkgs="$pkgs XFree86-fontScalable-4.2.0" # # cups-base # needs updating (port has 1.1.18.0_4) # pkgs="$pkgs cups-base-1.1.15.1_4" # # cvsup # needs updating (port has 16.1h) # pkgs="$pkgs cvsup-16.1f" # # ezm3 # needs updating (port has 1.1) # pkgs="$pkgs ezm3-1.0" # # fontconfig # needs updating (port has 2.1.94_1) # pkgs="$pkgs fontconfig-2.1.94" # # freetype2 # needs updating (port has 2.1.4_1) # pkgs="$pkgs freetype2-2.1.2" # # libgtkhtml # needs updating (port has 2.2.3) # pkgs="$pkgs libgtkhtml-2.2.2" # # samba # needs updating (port has 2.2.8a) # pkgs="$pkgs samba-2.2.6.p2_1" # # vim # needs updating (port has 6.1.455) # pkgs="$pkgs vim-6.1.435" if [ X"$pkgs" != X"" ]; then portupgrade $pkgs fi ----------------------- Joe Mom "Drain us of life and cleanse the mess" MuDvAyNe ----------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kent Stewart" To: "Joe Mom" Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 4:29 PM Subject: Re: Portupgrade failing to upgrade a port > On Tuesday 22 April 2003 01:19 pm, you wrote: > > k, so what do I have to do now? > > > > > > I would probably start out using "pkgdb -F" and fix the dependancies. > Nothing works until you can get a real portversion list. > > I am visually driven when it comes to solutions and I am not seeing your > messages. You could be somewhere that I haven't had to deal with. You > never know on a computer when you are going to find a dumb spot. This > has been true for the 40 years that I did computer diagnostic support. > > Kent > > > > > ----------------------- > > Joe Mom > > "Drain us of life and cleanse the mess" > > MuDvAyNe > > ----------------------- > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Kent Stewart" > > To: "Joe Mom" > > Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 4:11 PM > > Subject: Re: Portupgrade failing to upgrade a port > > > > > On Tuesday 22 April 2003 11:22 am, you wrote: > > > > This is the only thing that shows up. > > > > > > > > ezmlm-idx-0.40_2 --> qmail-1.03_1 > > > > > > What you should have seen is something like the following: > > > > > > ruby# pkgver > > > # > > > # cvsup-mirror > > > # needs updating (port has 1.2_1) > > > # > > > pkgs="$pkgs cvsup-mirror-1.2" > > > > > > # > > > # koffice > > > # needs updating (port has 1.2.1_1,1) > > > # > > > pkgs="$pkgs koffice-1.2.1,1" > > > > > > # > > > # tcl > > > # needs updating (port has 8.3.5_2) > > > # > > > pkgs="$pkgs tcl-8.3.5_1" > > > > > > > > > if [ X"$pkgs" != X"" ]; then > > > portupgrade $pkgs > > > fi > > > > > > pkgver is my alias that does the "portversion -c | more". > > > > > > Kent > > > > > > -- > > > Kent Stewart > > > Richland, WA > > > > > > http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html > > -- > Kent Stewart > Richland, WA > > http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 13:51:37 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A54CE37B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 13:51:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web12503.mail.yahoo.com (web12503.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3BBB543FEC for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 13:51:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bbeday@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20030422205137.68684.qmail@web12503.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [192.197.206.120] by web12503.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 13:51:37 PDT Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 13:51:37 -0700 (PDT) From: brad beday To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: installation of bin files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 20:51:37 -0000 Hi, I'm writting this because i don't have easy internet access so i can't easily get an iso image and start a fresh install. I am installing a minimal 4.8 distrobution, just the bin and man file sets on a dos partition. When i start the actuall installation in the setup program, it stops with the messages "using existing root partition - assumed you have appropriate device entries in /dev" & "error mounting /dev/ad0s1 on /dist - no such file or directory" I started an installation a few days ago, but stopped it before i commited the installation. I tried to complete the install a while latter without success. I've checked the file system on the harddrive and the mount point /dist is there, however, the /dev directory contains no entry for ad0s1. Instead it has ad0s1a to ... ad0s1h & ad0s2a, ad0s2b, ad0s2e I should explain that i've created a dos partition labelled ad0s1 with fdisk in the setup, refere to the bottom of this message. So, like in linuxnese, i thought i could refere to the entire partition with ad0s1 but with no ad0s1 entry in dev, i guess i can't. Is this why i get the "no such file" error message in my installation? If so, what do i do to get the system to use the right /dev entry? I can't seem to change it in setup, is there a way and which entry do i use? Do i have to manually make a dev entry with some external program? I've checked my dos partition and it has the bin file set on it. c:\freebsd\bin c:\freebsd\man below is a set of values for my setup screens Fdisk offset PType Desc Subtype 0 6 unused 0 62 2 fat 6 204848 3 freebsd 165 CA Drive geometry is 1018/14/62 just like hard disk Freebsd Boot Mngr installed Disk Label Mount ad0s1 /dos 99M dos ad0s2a / 30M ufs N ad0s2b swap 20M ad0s2e /usr 281M ufs+S N __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo http://search.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 14:00:15 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1B7E37B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:00:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ntli.com (pc1-glfd2-4-cust59.glfd.cable.ntl.com [81.99.187.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8C7D43F3F for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:00:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from william@palfreman.com) Received: from aqua.lan.palfreman.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ntli.com (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h3ML97Ra001465 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 22:09:07 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from william@palfreman.com) Received: from localhost (william@localhost)h3ML97T9001462 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 22:09:07 +0100 (BST) X-Authentication-Warning: aqua.lan.palfreman.com: william owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 22:09:06 +0100 (BST) From: William Palfreman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030422220758.D632@ndhn.yna.cnyserzna.pbz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Samba print prob X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 21:00:16 -0000 My samba server's printer has become invisible to w2k clients. I haven't changed smb.conf, and samba fileshares still work. Lpd printing is fine too. Apr 22 21:34:35 ledger smbd[347]: [2003/04/22 21:34:35, 0] printing/print_cups.c:cups_printername_ok(336) Apr 22 21:34:35 ledger smbd[347]: Unable to connect to CUPS server localhost - Connection refused Apr 22 21:34:35 ledger smbd[347]: [2003/04/22 21:34:35, 0] smbd/service.c:make_connection(252) Apr 22 21:34:35 ledger smbd[347]: ajs (10.23.90.18) couldn't find service ::{2227a280-3aea-1069-a2de-08002b30309d} The DNS domain of some of the clients has changed, and the server now has an IPv6 address as well as an IPv4. I'm sure I didn't use cups before, and if I run cupsd now printers are still invisible, but I don't get a connection refused message in the log. The "couldn't find service" message stays, though. Any ideas? I was using 4.8-R, I'm now using 4.8-STABLE as of today - the problem remains. I'm using samba-2.2.8a from the ports, and I was printing with it fine until a few days ago. William. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 14:00:58 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A450837B405 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:00:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from franky.speednet.com.au (franky.speednet.com.au [203.57.65.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FD4C43F75 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:00:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andyf@speednet.com.au) Received: from hewey.af.speednet.com.au (hewey.af.speednet.com.au [203.38.96.242])h3ML0tUv001475; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 07:00:56 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from andyf@speednet.com.au) Received: from hewey.af.speednet.com.au (hewey.af.speednet.com.au [172.22.2.1])h3ML0rg9026386; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 07:00:55 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from andyf@speednet.com.au) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 07:00:53 +1000 (EST) From: Andy Farkas X-X-Sender: andyf@hewey.af.speednet.com.au To: Sergey Zaikov In-Reply-To: <1051024696@p66.f5.n5022.z2.fidonet> Message-ID: <20030423065742.G26299-100000@hewey.af.speednet.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: "Questions@freebsd.Org" Subject: Re: the ps utility and cron X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 21:00:59 -0000 On Tue, 22 Apr 2003, Sergey Zaikov wrote: > I have a question about a key -x from man ps(1). > The reason of my question may be: misunderstanding man ps(1), errata at man > ps(1) or error in ps utility. > > (My FreeBSD version: > FreeBSD acc.acc.tula.ru 4.7-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE #38: Thu Mar 20 > 09:31:30 MSK 2003 acc107_3@acc.acc.tula.ru:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/Z i386) > > Man ps (1) says: > [*SKIP*] > -x Display information about processes without controlling termi- > nals. > [*SKIP*] > A processes, started from cron, is processes without controlling terminals. (Or > I samething don't understand:) > So: > $> ps -ax -U acc107_3 > must diplays it and > $>ps -a -U acc107_3 > should don't displays this processes. > The -U flag forces the -x flag. This is not documented in the manpage. See /usr/src/bin/ps/ps.c for details. -- :{ andyf@speednet.com.au Andy Farkas System Administrator Speednet Communications http://www.speednet.com.au/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 14:07:44 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B684037B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:07:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from darkpossum.medill.northwestern.edu (darkpossum.medill.northwestern.edu [129.105.51.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E323D43F85 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:07:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from possum@darkpossum.medill.northwestern.edu) Received: from darkpossum.medill.northwestern.edu (f4b55f46b9fb15f8b1ccf0ffffc88240@localhost.medill.northwestern.edu [127.0.0.1])h3MKvlQ7068885 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 15:57:47 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from possum@darkpossum.medill.northwestern.edu) Received: (from possum@localhost)h3MKvldU068884 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 15:57:47 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 15:57:47 -0500 From: Redmond Militante To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030422205747.GD65674@darkpossum> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="T7mxYSe680VjQnyC" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Sender: redmond@darkpossum.medill.northwestern.edu X-URL: http://darkpossum.medill.northwestern.edu/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=1 X-DSS-PGP-Fingerprint: F9E7 AFEA 0209 B164 7F83 E727 5213 FAFA 1511 7836 X-High-Score-In-Unreal-Tournament: 7639 Subject: https:// X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Redmond Militante List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 21:07:45 -0000 --T7mxYSe680VjQnyC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline hi possibly dumb question: i have a website that i'd like to serve over https:// instead of http:// i'm using apache 1.3.27 freebsd 4.8 can i use something like mod_ssl for this? do i have to purchase a server certificate off a company like verisign? thanks for any advice you can give redmond --T7mxYSe680VjQnyC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+pazKFNjun16SvHYRAvbfAJ94fnYWEWE5PUQ4VObOTUV3K1JHqwCgohcJ 2ZmDUeW74YDmPaet0Vo3X4Q= =cEiz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --T7mxYSe680VjQnyC-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 14:13:56 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ADB937B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:13:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from boris.st.hmc.edu (boris.ST.HMC.Edu [134.173.63.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C928343FAF for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:13:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeff@unixconsults.com) Received: from boris.st.hmc.edu (localhost.st.hmc.edu [127.0.0.1]) by boris.st.hmc.edu (8.12.6p2/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h3MLDsGW099228; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:13:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeff@unixconsults.com) Received: from localhost (jeff@localhost)h3MLDs8G099225; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:13:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: boris.st.hmc.edu: jeff owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:13:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Jirsa X-X-Sender: jeff@boris.st.hmc.edu To: Redmond Militante In-Reply-To: <20030422205747.GD65674@darkpossum> Message-ID: <20030422141144.R99205-100000@boris.st.hmc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by unixconsults.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: https:// X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 21:13:56 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 22 Apr 2003, Redmond Militante wrote: > hi > > possibly dumb question: > > i have a website that i'd like to serve over https:// instead of http:// > i'm using apache 1.3.27 freebsd 4.8 > > can i use something like mod_ssl for this? do i have to purchase a server certificate off a company like verisign? > Yes, mod_ssl is exactly what you want for that. (Incidently, you'll also probably want a really simple way to redirect traffic to http:// to the same page on the https:// server, and mod_rewrite can do that for you). No, you dont HAVE to purchase a certificate, although if you make your own, most modern browsers will issue a warning that the certificate is not signed by a trusted authority. If it's a small, personal site, that's not usually an issue. If you expect to be collecting money from strangers, they probably won't know why the message is appearing, and that may be bad for business. - - Jeff Jirsa -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+pbCS1ZEy6nYcOF4RApEKAKC2xoZWYFPwGz9T9TezKyZQQdpBsgCgkeB3 T0YEov9d+1mLpK67V31zNGk= =lWAc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 14:14:18 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F28D37B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:14:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tigger.alkinetworks.com (tigger.alkinetworks.com [216.211.130.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 984BB43FBF for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:14:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from philip@adhesivemedia.com) Received: from tigger.alkinetworks.com (tigger.alkinetworks.com [216.211.130.10])h3MLEHDG030611; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:14:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from philip@adhesivemedia.com) Received: from localhost (philip@localhost)h3MLEHhg030608; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:14:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: tigger.alkinetworks.com: philip owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:14:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Philip Hallstrom X-X-Sender: philip@tigger.alkinetworks.com To: Redmond Militante In-Reply-To: <20030422205747.GD65674@darkpossum> Message-ID: <20030422141257.M20255@tigger.alkinetworks.com> References: <20030422205747.GD65674@darkpossum> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: https:// X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 21:14:18 -0000 This is exactly what mod_ssl is for. Follow the instructions in the mod_ssl docs on how to create your own certificate (self-signed if you don't want ot pay for one). I do it (self-signed) for web-based email where I don't care if the users get a popup about the certificate not being trusted (this is solvable if you have them install all your certificates). -philip On Tue, 22 Apr 2003, Redmond Militante wrote: > hi > > possibly dumb question: > > i have a website that i'd like to serve over https:// instead of http:// > i'm using apache 1.3.27 freebsd 4.8 > > can i use something like mod_ssl for this? do i have to purchase a server certificate off a company like verisign? > > thanks for any advice you can give > > redmond > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 14:18:32 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CC3C37B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:18:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from laibach.mweb.co.za (laibach.mweb.co.za [196.2.53.177]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F062F43F75 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:18:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dj_boris@mail.ru) Received: from [196.7.205.171] (helo=d) by laibach.mweb.co.za with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 19855p-0000mn-00 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 23:14:22 +0200 Message-ID: <008801c30914$9ca9de80$6300a8c0@d> From: "DJ Boris" To: "freebsd-questions" Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 23:17:14 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: error when installing perl-5.6.1_11.tbz X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 21:18:32 -0000 hi there, I have FreeBSD fbsd 4.7-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE #0: Wed Oct 9 15:08:34 GMT 2002 root@builder.freebsdmall.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 I am getting the following error when installing perl-5.6.1_11.tbz /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libc.so.5" not found can anyone point in the right direction? please cc me as I had to unsubscribe from the list for a while thanx a lot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 14:19:35 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0037937B404 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:19:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blueyonder.co.uk (pcow053o.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.53.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3DF943F93 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:19:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jfm@blueyonder.co.uk) Received: from lexx ([62.31.198.203]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Tue, 22 Apr 2003 22:22:08 +0100 From: John Murphy To: David Kelly Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 22:19:28 +0100 Message-ID: <0cbbav01uff7p1r4cp0ipsrgqk59tdu592@4ax.com> References: <20030422184554.GA13432@grumpy.dyndns.org> <20030422211611.10aa753a.freebsd@secspace.de> <20030422193250.GA13774@grumpy.dyndns.org> In-Reply-To: <20030422193250.GA13774@grumpy.dyndns.org> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.9/32.560 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Accurate time without a network connection? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jfm@blueyonder.co.uk List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 21:19:35 -0000 David Kelly wrote: >Surfing http://www.ntp.org/ has turned up a lot of information but >little hardware. Of most interest was use of sound card connected to >radio receiver for decoding the time signals. But that's a touch exotic >for this application. Else I'd use the $20 LCD "atomic clock" I have on >my wall, a $25 USB "web-cam", and some sort of OCR. I nearly fell off my chair laughing after reading that 'solution'! There's a self build method at the following URL with notes for USA = users: http://www.buzzard.org.uk/jonathan/radioclock.html I'm determined to make one (or two) myself soon. I think Charles Swiger gave the answer which will suit you best. John. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 14:19:58 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CD8037B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:19:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from darkpossum.medill.northwestern.edu (darkpossum.medill.northwestern.edu [129.105.51.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 137C543F3F for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:19:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from possum@darkpossum.medill.northwestern.edu) Received: from darkpossum.medill.northwestern.edu (9be638d2c9178d90f71b27dcabfff725@localhost.medill.northwestern.edu [127.0.0.1])h3MLA1Q7068973 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 16:10:01 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from possum@darkpossum.medill.northwestern.edu) Received: (from possum@localhost)h3MLA1LR068969 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 16:10:01 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 16:10:00 -0500 From: Redmond Militante To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030422211000.GF65674@darkpossum> References: <20030422205747.GD65674@darkpossum> <20030422141257.M20255@tigger.alkinetworks.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="FeAIMMcddNRN4P4/" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030422141257.M20255@tigger.alkinetworks.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Sender: redmond@darkpossum.medill.northwestern.edu X-URL: http://darkpossum.medill.northwestern.edu/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=1 X-DSS-PGP-Fingerprint: F9E7 AFEA 0209 B164 7F83 E727 5213 FAFA 1511 7836 X-High-Score-In-Unreal-Tournament: 7639 Subject: Re: https:// X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Redmond Militante List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 21:19:58 -0000 --FeAIMMcddNRN4P4/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi thanks for the replies so - mod_ssl gets rid of the annoying popup warnings? is verisign the best, or cheapest option as far as commercial server certif= icates? In the gothic chambers of the underworld on Tue, Apr 22, 2003 at 02:14:17PM= -0700, Philip Hallstrom darkly muttered: > This is exactly what mod_ssl is for. Follow the instructions in the > mod_ssl docs on how to create your own certificate (self-signed if you > don't want ot pay for one). >=20 > I do it (self-signed) for web-based email where I don't care if the users > get a popup about the certificate not being trusted (this is solvable if > you have them install all your certificates). >=20 > -philip >=20 > On Tue, 22 Apr 2003, Redmond Militante wrote: >=20 > > hi > > > > possibly dumb question: > > > > i have a website that i'd like to serve over https:// instead of http:// > > i'm using apache 1.3.27 freebsd 4.8 > > > > can i use something like mod_ssl for this? do i have to purchase a ser= ver certificate off a company like verisign? > > > > thanks for any advice you can give > > > > redmond > > >=20 --FeAIMMcddNRN4P4/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+pa+oFNjun16SvHYRAgrPAJ9Ua6WRyRrRQbPRxS0mKZgaQ7LPGwCfeI+r rAdmQ6T9rQgWIr5b0ZKLwO0= =jwBy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --FeAIMMcddNRN4P4/-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 14:24:47 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14EA737B438 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:24:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ADD343FF2 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:24:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h3MLOaOg006804; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 17:24:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h3MLOZZ7006803; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 17:24:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200304222124.h3MLOZZ7006803@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: michaela@bsd.maa-net.net (Michael A. Alestock) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 17:24:35 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <200304221610.21113.michaela@bsd.maa-net.net> from "Michael A. Alestock" at Apr 22, 2003 04:10:21 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adding a new IDE harddrive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 21:24:48 -0000 > > I have a question...I already know how to add a new harddrive to my system, > however, what I wanted to know is how do I use the new harddrive's space to > add more space to my current filesystem's directories? Do I have to LINK the > new harddrive to the old drive? How would I go about this process?? It really depends on what you want to do. You have three basic choices. One is to make a big file system - lets call it /big on the new drive and divide up some of what is on the old drive, move it over there and create links to it. For example, you could make directories var.log, var.spool, usr.local and usr.srv on the new drive in /big. Then copy everything from your /var/log directory in to /big/var.log and make /var/log a link to it, copy everything from /var/spool to /big/var.spool and make /var/spool a link to it, etc. Two is to just put some of your file systems on the new drive which will enable to make them bigger and then give you room to make the remaining ones on the old drive bigger too. Candidates for file systems to live on the new drive are typically /usr, /var and one called /home where you put all of your users' home directories (or pick your own name, I use /lump), Instead of putting all of /usr over there, you might want to split out the disk hog stuff such as /usr/src and make it into its own file system which mounts as /usr/src. With this method, there are no links to make but you still will have to move all the stuff in to the new space. Then you will want to rethink the sizes on the remaining file systems and remake them. First make backups, then in the middle, make more backups. Your thirst choice is to learn about the raid/stripping ability in FreeBSD. You can make much larger file systems stripped across more than one disk. This ability is called vinum in FreeBSD. You will need to study the handbook carefully before diving in to this, but it works and can even improve your disk performance. I have both choice one and two in lots of places but haven't gotten in to vinum yet. Good luck, ////jerry > > Thanks! : ) > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 14:27:16 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3EDA37B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:27:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tigger.alkinetworks.com (tigger.alkinetworks.com [216.211.130.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49D6943FD7 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:27:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from philip@adhesivemedia.com) Received: from tigger.alkinetworks.com (tigger.alkinetworks.com [216.211.130.10])h3MLRGDG031296; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:27:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from philip@adhesivemedia.com) Received: from localhost (philip@localhost)h3MLRFjH031293; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:27:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: tigger.alkinetworks.com: philip owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:27:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Philip Hallstrom X-X-Sender: philip@tigger.alkinetworks.com To: Redmond Militante In-Reply-To: <20030422211000.GF65674@darkpossum> Message-ID: <20030422142545.F20255@tigger.alkinetworks.com> References: <20030422205747.GD65674@darkpossum> <20030422141257.M20255@tigger.alkinetworks.com> <20030422211000.GF65674@darkpossum> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: https:// X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 21:27:17 -0000 No, mod_ssl allows you to have a secure (ie. https://) site. Getting rid of the popup message depends on the browser. On mozilla and friends you can just check the box "don't bug me about this for this site again". On IE, you have to view the certificate, install it, then view it's path, click on the root certificate (also created by you), and install that as well. Then they won't get the message. Note that this doesn't work for ie on the mac which will get the popup on *every* page (at least it always did for us). -philip On Tue, 22 Apr 2003, Redmond Militante wrote: > hi thanks for the replies > > so - mod_ssl gets rid of the annoying popup warnings? > is verisign the best, or cheapest option as far as commercial server certificates? > > > > In the gothic chambers of the underworld on Tue, Apr 22, 2003 at 02:14:17PM -0700, Philip Hallstrom darkly muttered: > > This is exactly what mod_ssl is for. Follow the instructions in the > > mod_ssl docs on how to create your own certificate (self-signed if you > > don't want ot pay for one). > > > > I do it (self-signed) for web-based email where I don't care if the users > > get a popup about the certificate not being trusted (this is solvable if > > you have them install all your certificates). > > > > -philip > > > > On Tue, 22 Apr 2003, Redmond Militante wrote: > > > > > hi > > > > > > possibly dumb question: > > > > > > i have a website that i'd like to serve over https:// instead of http:// > > > i'm using apache 1.3.27 freebsd 4.8 > > > > > > can i use something like mod_ssl for this? do i have to purchase a server certificate off a company like verisign? > > > > > > thanks for any advice you can give > > > > > > redmond > > > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 14:30:33 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3156C37B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:30:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotmail.com (oe43.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.240.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8143043FD7 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:30:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mxsmanic@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:30:32 -0700 Received: from 81.50.80.3 by oe43.law8.hotmail.com with DAV; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 21:30:32 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [81.50.80.3] X-Originating-Email: [mxsmanic@hotmail.com] From: "Mxsmanic" To: "FreeBSD Questions" References: <20030422184554.GA13432@grumpy.dyndns.org><20030422211611.10aa753a.freebsd@secspace.de><20030422193250.GA13774@grumpy.dyndns.org> <0cbbav01uff7p1r4cp0ipsrgqk59tdu592@4ax.com> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 23:30:31 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Apr 2003 21:30:32.0377 (UTC) FILETIME=[67509290:01C30916] Subject: Re: Accurate time without a network connection? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 21:30:33 -0000 In the past I simply watched the time on the server that was to serve as my time reference, noted the drift over a few days, then wrote a very simple daemon that periodically skewed the time to compensate for the drift. I was surprised at how easy it was to get the server to stay within 1 second of the correct time for periods of several days with this simple and crude adjustment. The PC clock was way off (more than six seconds a day), but it was fairly consistently so, so with a bit of tweaking I managed to keep it close to the correct time. I was still happy to get the network connection back up, though. I did look at a few radio-controlled clocks (the GPS ones were not an option, as I have no place to put the antenna), but since I could buy another server for the price of the cheapest among them, they were not really a realistic option. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Murphy" To: "David Kelly" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 23:19 Subject: Re: Accurate time without a network connection? > David Kelly wrote: > > >Surfing http://www.ntp.org/ has turned up a lot of information but > >little hardware. Of most interest was use of sound card connected to > >radio receiver for decoding the time signals. But that's a touch exotic > >for this application. Else I'd use the $20 LCD "atomic clock" I have on > >my wall, a $25 USB "web-cam", and some sort of OCR. > > I nearly fell off my chair laughing after reading that 'solution'! > > There's a self build method at the following URL with notes for USA users: > http://www.buzzard.org.uk/jonathan/radioclock.html > I'm determined to make one (or two) myself soon. > > I think Charles Swiger gave the answer which will suit you best. > > John. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 14:34:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08D3E37B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:34:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp-out.comcast.net (smtp-out.comcast.net [24.153.64.115]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B2AA43FAF for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:34:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sublist@comcast.net) Received: from comcast.net (pcp01555705pcs.gdlett01.fl.comcast.net [68.51.227.174]) by mtaout09.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.14 (built Mar 18 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HDR00AIOKN6I6@mtaout09.icomcast.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 17:21:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 17:21:57 -0500 From: Mike To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <3EA5C085.7020300@comcast.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030420 Subject: Quickcam Express X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 21:34:10 -0000 I was wondering if anyone uses a usb quickcam with freebsd? Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 14:35:34 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40D3637B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:35:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mig.mig-29.net (dsl-200-67-215-158.prodigy.net.mx [200.67.215.158]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66BF343FE9 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:35:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mig@mig.mig-29.net) Received: from mig.mig-29.net (localhost.mig-29.net [127.0.0.1]) by mig.mig-29.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h3MLcwdT000386; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 16:38:58 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from mig@mig.mig-29.net) Received: (from mig@localhost) by mig.mig-29.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h3MLcw56000385; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 16:38:58 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 16:38:58 -0500 From: Manuel Rabade - MiG To: Redmond Militante Message-ID: <20030422213858.GA307@mig-29.net> References: <20030422205747.GD65674@darkpossum> <20030422141257.M20255@tigger.alkinetworks.com> <20030422211000.GF65674@darkpossum> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030422211000.GF65674@darkpossum> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i URL: http://www.mig-29.net/ cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: https:// X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 21:35:34 -0000 --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Apr 22, 2003 at 04:10:00PM -0500, Redmond Militante wrote: > hi thanks for the replies >=20 > so - mod_ssl gets rid of the annoying popup warnings? No, mod_ssl sends your certificate over a sercure channel (https), the anno= ying popup warnings are because your certificate is signed by yourself, and not a comp= any like verysing who is trusted by the web browsers (sorry, but web browsers dont t= rust you =3DP). > is verisign the best, or cheapest option as far as commercial server cert= ificates? >=20 I don't know .. >=20 >=20 > In the gothic chambers of the underworld on Tue, Apr 22, 2003 at 02:14:17= PM -0700, Philip Hallstrom darkly muttered: > > This is exactly what mod_ssl is for. Follow the instructions in the > > mod_ssl docs on how to create your own certificate (self-signed if you > > don't want ot pay for one). > >=20 > > I do it (self-signed) for web-based email where I don't care if the use= rs > > get a popup about the certificate not being trusted (this is solvable if > > you have them install all your certificates). > >=20 > > -philip > >=20 > > On Tue, 22 Apr 2003, Redmond Militante wrote: > >=20 > > > hi > > > > > > possibly dumb question: > > > > > > i have a website that i'd like to serve over https:// instead of http= :// > > > i'm using apache 1.3.27 freebsd 4.8 > > > > > > can i use something like mod_ssl for this? do i have to purchase a s= erver certificate off a company like verisign? > > > > > > thanks for any advice you can give > > > > > > redmond > > > > >=20 --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+pbZxOZtXZaozJcARAkGuAKDJOtUZed6PnGz1IsajWhEpEYd5RACcCjnT 5fEI+Cn2AiakhpEx1nXMHQc= =6LlQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 14:39:41 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE7B837B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:39:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sub21-156.member.dsl-only.net (sub21-156.member.dsl-only.net [63.105.21.156]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 120D643F3F for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:39:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nkinkade@sub21-156.member.dsl-only.net) Received: from nkinkade by sub21-156.member.dsl-only.net with local (Exim 4.10) id 1985UK-000PzK-00; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:39:40 -0700 Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:39:40 -0700 From: Nathan Kinkade To: "Michael A. Alestock" , questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030422213940.GG92029@sub21-156.member.dsl-only.net> Mail-Followup-To: Nathan Kinkade , "Michael A. Alestock" , questions@freebsd.org References: <200304221610.21113.michaela@bsd.maa-net.net> <20030422202312.GF92029@sub21-156.member.dsl-only.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="zGQnqpIoxlsbsOfg" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030422202312.GF92029@sub21-156.member.dsl-only.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: Nathan Kinkade Subject: Re: Adding a new IDE harddrive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: nkinkade@fastmail.fm List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 21:39:42 -0000 --zGQnqpIoxlsbsOfg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Apr 22, 2003 at 01:23:12PM -0700, Nathan Kinkade wrote: > On Tue, Apr 22, 2003 at 04:10:21PM -0700, Michael A. Alestock wrote: > > I have a question...I already know how to add a new harddrive to my sys= tem,=20 > > however, what I wanted to know is how do I use the new harddrive's spac= e to=20 > > add more space to my current filesystem's directories? Do I have to LI= NK the=20 > > new harddrive to the old drive? How would I go about this process?? > >=20 > > Thanks! : ) >=20 > It's in the FreeBSD FAQ. > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#ADDING-DI= SKS >=20 > Nathan I apologize, after re-reading your email and then fully looking through the FAQ to which I directed you, I see that the FAQ in question doesn't much cover your concern, although it does have a tiny section on moving a portion of a filesystem to a different disk. You could do something akin to what section 4.2 of that faq suggests. You sould be able to use that extra space at any place in your current filesystem - and of course, have it mounted automatically via an entry in /etc/fstab. As far as distributing a little of the space across many directories that currently reside on one filesyste, I don't think this is possible - or at least not easily accomplished. As was briefly covered in the faq, I have had good luck with mounting my new disk (or slice) to a temporary mount point, then copying the contents of the dir (or filesystem) that I want to expand to this temp. mount point. Then delete or backup the original dir and mount your new disk or slice at the old location. There may also be some limited cases where growfs(8), but this pertains to changes on the same physical disk. Nathan --=20 GPG Public Key ID: 0x4250A04C gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 4250A04C http://63.105.21.156/gpg_nkinkade_4250A04C.asc --zGQnqpIoxlsbsOfg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+pbacWZYS9EJQoEwRAt5VAKC5k3CJ5JlMzAphbue6idztY7kOBgCdFfb3 09a0ViHTHnmrzLO3punbrk8= =uxET -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --zGQnqpIoxlsbsOfg-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 14:39:50 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA7DE37B40C for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:39:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web20705.mail.yahoo.com (web20705.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.178]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3F49543FDD for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:39:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsdude@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20030422213950.2351.qmail@web20705.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [160.79.175.120] by web20705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:39:50 PDT Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:39:50 -0700 (PDT) From: clay spencer To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: dmesg only contains kernel interupt table X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 21:39:51 -0000 Hello,I have a new install of 5.0 on i386. My /var/run/dmesg.today file as well /var/log/messages never contains anything but a kernel interupt table which also scrolls across the console at boot time. These entries look like: 684 dmmax R *Handler Int 685 swap_idle_threshold1 RW *Handler Int 686 swap_idle_threshold2 RW *Handler Int 687 v_free_severe RW *Handler 688 stats RW Node 689 sys RW Node 692 v_swtch R *Handler 693 v_trap R *Handler 694 v_syscall R *Handler 695 v_intr R *Handler 696 v_soft R *Handler 690 vm RW Node 697 v_vm_faults R *Handler 698 v_cow_faults R *Handler 699 v_cow_optim R *Handler 700 v_zfod R *Handler 701 v_ozfod R *Handler 702 v_swapin R *Handler 703 v_swapout R *Handler 704 v_swappgsin R *Handler 705 v_swappgsout R *Handler However nothing else gets logged via syslog. Here is my syslog.conf file: security.* /var/log/security auth.info;authpriv.info /var/log/auth.log mail.info /var/log/maillog lpr.info /var/log/lpd-errs ftp.info /var/log/xferlog cron.* /var/log/cron *.emerg * # uncomment this to log all writes to /dev/console to /var/log/console.log #console.info /var/log/console.log # uncomment this to enable logging of all log messages to /var/log/all.log touch /var/log/all.log and chmod it to mode 600 before it will work #*.* /var/log/all.log # uncomment this to enable logging to a remote loghost named loghost #*.* @loghost That all looks ok to me. Could somebody help me out with this? Thanks.The output of uname is: 5.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.0-RELEASE #0: Tue Apr 22 15:02:34 EDT 2003 /usr/src/sys/i386/compile/GENERIC i386 Thanks in advance --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 14:41:49 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F289237B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:41:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from h24-67-53-86.lb.shawcable.net (h24-67-53-86.lb.shawcable.net [24.67.53.86]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AE0143FCB for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:41:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cmoline@shaw.ca) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by h24-67-53-86.lb.shawcable.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59B8995E for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 15:33:16 -0600 (MDT) From: Chris Moline To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1051047195.97785.27.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.0 Date: 22 Apr 2003 15:33:16 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: mouse wheel problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 21:41:49 -0000 hi. i am having some problems with getting my mouse wheels to work. i had it working with my old mouse (a wireless optical logitech mouse). but that mouse started having problems so i got a new one. the new one is a cheap, generic mouse. i did have the wheel on the old logitech mouse working but it doesnt work anymore. the wheel on the new generic mouse doesnt work either. both mice work on my friends windows box. both mice work on my bsd box (except for the wheels). i am running XFree86-4.2.0_1,1. here is the relevant part of /etc/X11/XF86Config Identifier "Mouse1" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" Option "Buttons" "5" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" here is my moused command for the old logitech mouse moused -t auto -p /dev/psm0 -z 4 and here is my moused command for the new generic mouse (its really pokey and so needs some help). moused -t auto -p /dev/psm0 -z 4 -r high -a 2 running imwheel -p for both mice doesnt help either. here is what moused -i all -p /dev/psm0 reports for my new generic mouse /dev/psm0 ps/2 sysmouse MouseMan+ here is what moused -i all -p /dev/psm0 reports for my old logitech mouse. /dev/psm0 ps/2 sysmouse MouseMan+ it would seem that they both use the same protocol. and here is what /var/log/XFree86.0.log has to say about both of my mice (the logs for each session with a different mouse were the same) (**) Option "Protocol" "auto" (**) Mouse1: Protocol: "auto" (**) Option "CorePointer" (**) Mouse1: Core Pointer (**) Option "Device" "/dev/mouse" (**) Option "Buttons" "5" (**) Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" (**) Mouse1: ZAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5 (**) Mouse1: Buttons: 5 (II) Keyboard "Keyboard1" handled by legacy driver (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Mouse1" (type: MOUSE) (II) Mouse1: SetupAuto: hw.iftype is 4, hw.model is 0 (II) Mouse1: SetupAuto: protocol is SysMouse (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" and here is what it says for both mice after trying to use /dev/psm0 directly (i had to change /dev/psm0 permissions). (**) Option "Protocol" "auto" (**) Mouse1: Protocol: "auto" (**) Option "CorePointer" (**) Mouse1: Core Pointer (**) Option "Device" "/dev/psm0" (**) Option "Buttons" "5" (**) Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" (**) Mouse1: ZAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5 (**) Mouse1: Buttons: 5 (II) Keyboard "Keyboard1" handled by legacy driver (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Mouse1" (type: MOUSE) (II) Mouse1: SetupAuto: hw.iftype is 3, hw.model is 7 (II) Mouse1: SetupAuto: protocol is SysMouse (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (WW) fcntl(6, F_SETOWN): Inappropriate ioctl for device what are some other reasons a mouse wheel wont work? i can see that maybe the new generic mouse isnt supported but then why would my old logitech mouse no longer work when it was working before? sincerly, chris moline From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 14:49:11 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B35F37B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:49:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aramis.rutgers.edu (aramis.rutgers.edu [128.6.4.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56EC843FE5 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:49:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bohra@cs.rutgers.edu) Received: from cs.rutgers.edu (sirtaki.rutgers.edu [128.6.171.146]) by aramis.rutgers.edu (8.11.7+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id h3MLn9k26474 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 17:49:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3EA5B8CF.7080803@cs.rutgers.edu> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 17:49:03 -0400 From: Aniruddha Bohra User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020826 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Interrupt threads X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 21:49:11 -0000 Hello Reading the implementation of interrupt handling on i386, and reading Greg Lehey's Usenix paper on FreeBSD 5.0 SMP implementation, I understand that interrupt handling is done in process context. This is needed partly to support sleeping while handling the interrupt because GIANT needs to be locked and a sleep is possible there. My question is after all subsystems that lock giant are made INTR_MPSAFE will the implementation go back to non-process context interrupt handling (as in older versions) ? Moreover, will the locking be per-IRQ or there will be a global IRQ lock for ensuring atomic access to the ISRs ? Finally why do we need to create a kernel thread for each IRQ - why can't one kernel thread handle all the IRQs ? Please cc me as I am not subscribed. Thanks Aniruddha From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 15:20:17 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CCE537B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 15:20:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from visimation.com (visimation.com [206.169.230.71]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1E9843FB1 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 15:20:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adaml@visimation.com) Received: from Spooler by visimation.com (Mercury/32 v3.32) ID MO001BE3; 22 Apr 03 15:15:43 -0700 Received: from spooler by visimation.com (Mercury/32 v3.32); 22 Apr 03 15:15:27 -0700 Received: from 5adam5 (10.0.0.111) by visimation.com (Mercury/32 v3.32) with ESMTP ID MG001BE2; 22 Apr 03 15:15:19 -0700 From: "Adam Lofstedt" To: "'Redmond Militante'" , Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 15:19:54 -0700 Organization: Visimation, Inc. Message-ID: <00ab01c3091d$4d13a320$6f00000a@5adam5> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 In-Reply-To: <20030422211000.GF65674@darkpossum> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: https:// X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: adaml@visimation.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 22:20:17 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of > Redmond Militante > Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 2:10 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: https:// > > > hi thanks for the replies > > so - mod_ssl gets rid of the annoying popup warnings? > is verisign the best, or cheapest option as far as commercial > server certificates? > If this is a small site, and you aren't doing credit card transactions, then you might want to just get a certificate from FreeSSL.com. Registration is easy, and it only takes about 10 minutes to get the cert. Most newer browsers and mail clients will trust these certificates and stop complaining. If you are doing ecommerce, then it's best to just get a certificate from Thawte or Verisign. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 16:05:19 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79CAE37B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 16:05:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.internet.co.nz (mail.internet.co.nz [210.48.22.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5389043FAF for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 16:05:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wade.barmby@iconz.net) Received: (qmail 25473 invoked by uid 505); 23 Apr 2003 10:49:59 +1200 Received: from wade.barmby@iconz.net by mail.internet.co.nz by uid 502 with qmail-scanner-1.13 (sophie: 2.14/3.68. spamassassin: 2.20. Clear:. Processed in 2.838911 secs); 22 Apr 2003 22:49:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO webgecko) (202.14.100.208) by mail.iconz.net with SMTP; 23 Apr 2003 10:49:56 +1200 From: "B. Wade Barmby" To: Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 10:49:05 +1200 Message-ID: <000001c30921$61db5240$5864a8c0@ICONZ> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: NZ FreeBSD Server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 23:05:19 -0000 Good morning, I am one of the administrators at an ISP in New Zealand called ICONZ. ( http://www.iconz.co.nz) Many of our server run specifically on FreeBSD over several other Unix type operating systems. We've also noticed that the New Zealand FreeBSD distributor is no longer supplying the FreeBSd distributions via FTP. We (ICONZ) would like to become the New Zealand FreeBSD repository for Oceania. Can you please forward some information regarding how we my move forward with this? Kind Regards, B. Wade Barmby ICONZ Development Phone: 09 977 3500 DDI: 09 977 3502 Mobile: 021 665 221 http://www.iconz.co.nz From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 16:26:16 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7E9C37B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 16:26:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chen.org.nz (chen.org.nz [210.54.19.51]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E26D243F93 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 16:26:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: from grimoire.chen.org.nz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chen.org.nz (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h3MNQDM4077227; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 11:26:13 +1200 (NZST) (envelope-from jonc@grimoire.chen.org.nz) Received: (from jonc@localhost) by grimoire.chen.org.nz (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h3MNQDlL077226; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 11:26:13 +1200 (NZST) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 11:26:13 +1200 From: Jonathan Chen To: "B. Wade Barmby" Message-ID: <20030422232613.GA77194@grimoire.chen.org.nz> References: <000001c30921$61db5240$5864a8c0@ICONZ> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000001c30921$61db5240$5864a8c0@ICONZ> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NZ FreeBSD Server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 23:26:17 -0000 On Wed, Apr 23, 2003 at 10:49:05AM +1200, B. Wade Barmby wrote: [...] > Many of our server run specifically on FreeBSD over several other Unix > type operating systems. We've also noticed that the New Zealand FreeBSD > distributor is no longer supplying the FreeBSd distributions via FTP. > > We (ICONZ) would like to become the New Zealand FreeBSD repository for > Oceania. Can you please forward some information regarding how we my > move forward with this? Good to here that you want to take it over! There's an entry on the FreeBSD website about this: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/hubs/mirror-becomingofficial.html You may have to get in touch with Peter Wemm . Good luck. -- Jonathan Chen ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "We laugh in the face of danger, we drop icecubes down the vest of fear" - Edmond Blackadder III From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 16:27:55 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 759AA37B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 16:27:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sub21-156.member.dsl-only.net (sub21-156.member.dsl-only.net [63.105.21.156]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB3B343F75 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 16:27:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nkinkade@sub21-156.member.dsl-only.net) Received: from nkinkade by sub21-156.member.dsl-only.net with local (Exim 4.10) id 1987Az-0000dY-00; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 16:27:49 -0700 Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 16:27:48 -0700 From: Nathan Kinkade To: Chris Moline Message-ID: <20030422232748.GH92029@sub21-156.member.dsl-only.net> Mail-Followup-To: Chris Moline , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1051047195.97785.27.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="VkqCAaSJIySsbD6j" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1051047195.97785.27.camel@localhost> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: Nathan Kinkade cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mouse wheel problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: nkinkade@fastmail.fm List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 23:27:55 -0000 --VkqCAaSJIySsbD6j Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Apr 22, 2003 at 03:33:16PM -0600, Chris Moline wrote: >=20 > hi. i am having some problems with getting my mouse wheels to work. >=20 > i had it working with my old mouse (a wireless optical logitech mouse). > but that mouse started having problems so i got a new one. the new one > is a cheap, generic mouse. i did have the wheel on the old logitech > mouse working but it doesnt work anymore. the wheel on the new generic > mouse doesnt work either. both mice work on my friends windows box. both > mice work on my bsd box (except for the wheels). >=20 > i am running XFree86-4.2.0_1,1. here is the relevant part of > /etc/X11/XF86Config >=20 > Identifier "Mouse1"=20 > Driver "mouse"=20 > Option "Protocol" "auto"=20 > Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse"=20 > Option "Buttons" "5"=20 > Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"=20 >=20 > here is my moused command for the old logitech mouse >=20 > moused -t auto -p /dev/psm0 -z 4 >=20 > and here is my moused command for the new generic mouse (its really > pokey and so needs some help). >=20 > moused -t auto -p /dev/psm0 -z 4 -r high -a 2 >=20 > > sincerly, > chris moline I recently got my wheel mouse working using almost the exact same setup as you, minus the ZAxisMapping directive in the XF86Config file. Try commenting out that line and then restarting X. Nathan --=20 GPG Public Key ID: 0x4250A04C gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 4250A04C http://63.105.21.156/gpg_nkinkade_4250A04C.asc --VkqCAaSJIySsbD6j Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+pc/0WZYS9EJQoEwRAl+XAKCJnlRkMpTHtAWSDCYZU6FWDXwQ2QCdF9sp WY//0lg5mDZwIwsbrEyEork= =8bbq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --VkqCAaSJIySsbD6j-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 16:31:01 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5090937B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 16:31:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ntli.com (pc1-glfd2-4-cust59.glfd.cable.ntl.com [81.99.187.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AB8243FD7 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 16:31:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from william@palfreman.com) Received: from aqua.lan.palfreman.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ntli.com (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h3MNduRa002031; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 00:39:56 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from william@palfreman.com) Received: from localhost (william@localhost)h3MNdtTw002028; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 00:39:55 +0100 (BST) X-Authentication-Warning: aqua.lan.palfreman.com: william owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 00:39:40 +0100 (BST) From: William Palfreman To: Malcolm Kay In-Reply-To: <200304221410.29115.Malcolm.Kay@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <20030422113719.X41557@ndhn.yna.cnyserzna.pbz> References: <20030421170801.GA23306@freedaemon.home.lan> <200304221410.29115.Malcolm.Kay@internode.on.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: Chris Pockele cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: floppy drive problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 23:31:01 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 22 Apr 2003, Malcolm Kay wrote: > Notice all Chris's commands address a ufs partition, and the errors come from > fd0c -- again a ufs concept. The disk is not set up with ufs but FAT12 so > these do not exist. > > His drive works OK under windows; it is possible but very unlikely there is > a hardware problem. > > His problem will probably disappear if he uses a suitable device fd0 or > fd0.1440 rather than fd0a. I tried mounting an old msdos format disk using fd0, fd0a, fd0b, fd0d, fd0f, fd0h, and they were all exactly the same and all worked - not entirely surprising given that they all have the same major and minor numbers. > This also applies in writing an image using dd, but here it might be > advisable to use the sized device fd0.1440 or the traditional raw device > rfd0.1440 I thought rfd[0-1]* was deprecated? Anyway, it has identical major/minor numbers to fd[0-1]* and it works identically for me too. I suppose you could try using fd0.1440. I'm fairly sure it is simply the default fd0 does anyway. It certainly works identically for me, although the major/minor is different. In general, I think it is a really big mistake not to assume hardware failures with an elderly floppy drive, before digger around for an obscure incompatibility. The 3.5" IBM floppy has been around a very long time and are very well understood. Unless it is a very special type of hardware. Chris has since said that the drive takes known good disks, and after failing to read them, those disks are no longer readable. There is probably a huge chink of crud on the read/write heads, and its wrecking everything that get near it. That or similar seems to me to be the overwhelmingly likely cause of the problem. - -- W. Palfreman. I'm looking for a job. Read my CV at: Tel: 0771 355 0354 www.palfreman.com/william/cv-wfp2.html -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+pdLLlEOQDkvPqLYRAlouAKCGjpaRDsMtd6t3xeowXRQfckOl+QCfZd7S M5tduWvxeYArJbT9AwMb/J4= =i8L6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 16:46:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9985C37B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 16:46:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tmxmailsmtp2.telmex.com (customer-148-223-155-50.uninet.net.mx [148.223.155.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2E9C43FBD for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 16:46:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from MPAREDES@telmex.com) Received: from tmxmailmex3.ad.intranet.telmex.com ([13.44.1.86]) by tmxmailsmtp2.telmex.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 22 Apr 2003 18:34:06 -0500 Received: from tmxmailhmo1.ad.intranet.telmex.com ([13.44.1.105]) by tmxmailmex3.ad.intranet.telmex.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 22 Apr 2003 18:33:59 -0500 content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6334.0 Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 16:34:05 -0700 Message-ID: <35BC9957B8699C42AB3A665E3C5656556CAD5D@tmxmailhmo1.intranet.telmex.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: BTX changes Thread-Index: AcMIr3f/tT2o20gYQ0u83hteqBkw+AAV2d/w From: "Paredes S�nchez Mart�n A." To: "Dick Hoogendijk" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Apr 2003 23:33:59.0906 (UTC) FILETIME=[A68BCC20:01C30927] cc: "BSD." Subject: RE: BTX changes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 23:46:05 -0000 I see that you are progressing with your problem, I want to clarify something to you, but I am not sure about if I am right because I am new to FreeBSD too. In your mail you are talking about 2 different programs BootEasy and BTX Loader. BootEasy is the one that give the multiboot facility or bootmanager (the F1 ??? an F5 ...), this is stored in the MBR of disk 0, because of this, the size of this program is restricted to 512 bytes. If you have the CD 1 of installation, look in \TOOLS\SRCS\BTEASY, there is a README file and the sources of this program, the BOOT.ASM is the program that goes to the MBR, this is done with the BOOTINST program. If you know assambler, you can modify the BOOT.ASM to boot FreeBSD when the F5 is pressed. The BTX is the program in the bootsector of the partition of FreeBSD. Because of this, it stay in the disk 1 (the second), it can only load FreeBSD. -HTH maps -----Original Message----- From: Dick Hoogendijk [SMTP:dick@nagual.st] Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 2:17 AM To: freebsd-questions Subject: BTX changes I can't find the solution anymore :-(( I've the bsd bootloader installed on both my disks F1 ??? F5 disk 1 =-=- F1 FreeBSD F5 disk 0 =-=-= What I want is that by pressing F5 (the first one) FreeBSD gets loaded and NOT the bootmanager! I lost the syntax though. I tried various options w/ boot0cfg and fdisk but non worked. The BTX loader stays on disk-1. How can I remove the bootloader on disk 1. My fbsd-4.8 sysinstall does not seem to have the option of reinstalling the bootloader anymore. But I'll do it on the console if someone tells me the syntax. -- dick -- http://www.nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 4.8 ++ Debian GNU/Linux (Woody) _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 16:47:53 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC2DA37B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 16:47:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from h24-67-53-86.lb.shawcable.net (h24-67-53-86.lb.shawcable.net [24.67.53.86]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34F0D43F3F for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 16:47:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cmoline@shaw.ca) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by h24-67-53-86.lb.shawcable.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 040A295E for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 17:39:20 -0600 (MDT) From: Chris Moline To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20030422221846.GG13811@asenchi.com> References: <1051047195.97785.27.camel@localhost> <20030422221846.GG13811@asenchi.com> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1051054760.97785.31.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.0 Date: 22 Apr 2003 17:39:20 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: mouse wheel problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 23:47:54 -0000 On Tue, 2003-04-22 at 16:18, Asenchi wrote: > I have always had it this way. Notice the "Device" part > of the message. > > Identifier "Mouse1" > Driver "mouse" > Option "Protocol" "auto" > Option "Device" "/dev/psm0" > Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" > Option "Buttons" "5" > > : [snip] > > You will also want to make sure moused_enable says 'NO' > in /etc/rc.conf. > > Also run this: > #killall moused > > Once you do both of those steps you should be working. ok i changed my config file, disable moused in /etc/rc.conf and ran killall moused. but it still doesnt work. thank you for your help, chris moline From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 16:50:47 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E875B37B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 16:50:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from homebass.ca (216.126.94.86 [216.126.94.86]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3BD4743FE9 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 16:50:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from liquid@homebass.ca) Received: (qmail 15287 invoked by uid 1003); 22 Apr 2003 22:38:41 -0000 Received: from windows.homebass.ca (HELO windows) (192.168.0.100) by homebass.ca with SMTP; 22 Apr 2003 22:38:41 -0000 From: "Liquid" To: Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 19:36:39 -0400 Message-ID: <003201c30928$05c5d960$6400a8c0@windows> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: various little problems after qmail installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 23:50:48 -0000 Hi everyone, I just got qmail installed on my server (with qmail-pop3d for pop3). After a few hiccups (first time setting up mail and all) I finally got it Working. Then I realized I needed to switch to the ./Maildir type of mailbox. Since then, I've run ./maildirmake ~/user for a few users, and now they Don't have access to their files anymore. I know how to fix this, but this, Together with the trouble I had getting pine and even outlook to see the Mailboxes gets me wondering that I surely could have done things better. With that in mind, I'm asking if anyone knows a good step-by-step on the net For qmail. Google got me some garbage, and it got me the one at freebsddiary. It's a little outdated however. There's no doubt I'm going to have to install This again sometime, so I'm hoping I can find something that won't turn it Into a full day ordeal. TIA, Sandro From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 16:54:39 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 895AD37B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 16:54:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from h24-67-53-86.lb.shawcable.net (h24-67-53-86.lb.shawcable.net [24.67.53.86]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C54F343F93 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 16:54:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cmoline@shaw.ca) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by h24-67-53-86.lb.shawcable.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CED6195E for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 17:46:06 -0600 (MDT) From: Chris Moline To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20030422232748.GH92029@sub21-156.member.dsl-only.net> References: <1051047195.97785.27.camel@localhost> <20030422232748.GH92029@sub21-156.member.dsl-only.net> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1051055166.97785.39.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.0 Date: 22 Apr 2003 17:46:06 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: mouse wheel problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 23:54:39 -0000 On Tue, 2003-04-22 at 17:27, Nathan Kinkade wrote: > I recently got my wheel mouse working using almost the exact same setup > as you, minus the ZAxisMapping directive in the XF86Config file. Try > commenting out that line and then restarting X. ok. i commented out ZAxisMapping. i tried it twice with two XF86Configs looking like Identifier "Mouse1" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" # Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" Option "Buttons" "5" with the above config i ran moused -p /dev/psm0 -z 4 -r high -a 2 Identifier "Mouse1" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/psm0" # Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" Option "Buttons" "5" with this config i ran killall moused. in both configs the three buttons work fine but the wheels dont work. i am beginning to think that i have offended the gods in some minor way. i shall offer a sacrifice of easter choclate and see if that helps. thanks for your help, chris moline From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 17:27:58 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6532A37B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 17:27:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mrout1.yahoo.com (mrout1.yahoo.com [216.145.54.171]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA6E443F85 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 17:27:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steffl@bigfoot.com) Received: from bigfoot.com (woodpecker.corp.yahoo.com [207.126.234.69]) h3N0Ruq65447 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 17:27:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3EA5DE0C.70803@bigfoot.com> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 17:27:56 -0700 From: Erik Steffl User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20030227 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1051047195.97785.27.camel@localhost> <20030422232748.GH92029@sub21-156.member.dsl-only.net> <1051055166.97785.39.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1051055166.97785.39.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: mouse wheel problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 00:27:58 -0000 Chris Moline wrote: > On Tue, 2003-04-22 at 17:27, Nathan Kinkade wrote: > >>I recently got my wheel mouse working using almost the exact same setup >>as you, minus the ZAxisMapping directive in the XF86Config file. Try >>commenting out that line and then restarting X. > > > ok. i commented out ZAxisMapping. i tried it twice with two XF86Configs > looking like > > Identifier "Mouse1" > Driver "mouse" > Option "Protocol" "auto" > Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" > # Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" > Option "Buttons" "5" > > with the above config i ran moused -p /dev/psm0 -z 4 -r high -a 2 > > Identifier "Mouse1" > Driver "mouse" > Option "Protocol" "auto" > Option "Device" "/dev/psm0" > # Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" > Option "Buttons" "5" > > with this config i ran killall moused. > > in both configs the three buttons work fine but the wheels dont work. don't work in what way? did you try xev to see whwrher you're getting any events? you might have to try different protocols, I had troubles with that before... maybe auto is not good enough... erik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 17:29:40 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AADC637B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 17:29:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from quasi.concon.homeip.net (adsl-67-116-217-192.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net [67.116.217.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A867943FDF for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 17:29:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jconner@enterit.com) Received: from there (snafux [192.168.100.13])h3MNXf6u003375; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 19:33:43 -0400 Message-Id: <200304222333.h3MNXf6u003375@quasi.concon.homeip.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Jim To: "Liquid" , Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 17:29:00 -0700 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: <003201c30928$05c5d960$6400a8c0@windows> In-Reply-To: <003201c30928$05c5d960$6400a8c0@windows> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [mail_lists] various little problems after qmail installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jconner@enterit.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 00:29:41 -0000 On Tuesday 22 April 2003 16:36, Liquid wrote: I am probably going to get flamed by all the qmail enthusiasts out there but I will tell you my experiences with setting qmail up for Maildir format... IT SUCKS! It is the most cumbersome set up I have ever had to go through. I find setting up DNS in a jailed environment writing all the SOA's and RR's from scratch to be less cumbersome than dealing with setting up a qmail server. Therefore, I don't use Qmail anymore. - Jim | Hi everyone, | | I just got qmail installed on my server (with qmail-pop3d for pop3). | | After a few hiccups (first time setting up mail and all) I finally got | it | Working. Then I realized I needed to switch to the ./Maildir type of | mailbox. | Since then, I've run ./maildirmake ~/user for a few users, and now they | Don't have access to their files anymore. I know how to fix this, but | this, | Together with the trouble I had getting pine and even outlook to see the | Mailboxes gets me wondering that I surely could have done things better. | | With that in mind, I'm asking if anyone knows a good step-by-step on the | net | For qmail. Google got me some garbage, and it got me the one at | freebsddiary. | It's a little outdated however. There's no doubt I'm going to have to | install | This again sometime, so I'm hoping I can find something that won't turn | it | Into a full day ordeal. | | TIA, | | Sandro | | _______________________________________________ | freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list | http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions | To unsubscribe, send any mail to | "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- - Jim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 17:41:27 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7014037B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 17:41:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-67-115-75-1.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [67.115.75.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC95243F75 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 17:41:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from rot13.obsecurity.org (rot13.obsecurity.org [10.0.0.5]) by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E28266D6A; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 17:41:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rot13.obsecurity.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 626421537; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 17:41:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 17:41:26 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Aniruddha Bohra Message-ID: <20030423004126.GA66282@rot13.obsecurity.org> References: <3EA5B8CF.7080803@cs.rutgers.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="J/dobhs11T7y2rNN" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3EA5B8CF.7080803@cs.rutgers.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Interrupt threads X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 00:41:27 -0000 --J/dobhs11T7y2rNN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, Apr 22, 2003 at 05:49:03PM -0400, Aniruddha Bohra wrote: > Hello > Reading the implementation of interrupt handling on i386, > and reading Greg Lehey's Usenix paper on FreeBSD 5.0 SMP > implementation, I understand that interrupt handling is done in > process context. This is needed partly to support sleeping while > handling the interrupt because GIANT needs to be locked and > a sleep is possible there. This question would probably be better asked on the SMP list than the generic tech support mailing list. Kris --J/dobhs11T7y2rNN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+peE2Wry0BWjoQKURAmTSAJwJ1k9E6UuvSUO/OEPVUaxzJhzi2QCgvTIs 2yB3/jPCamxHiSrbiXvONDQ= =0YYf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --J/dobhs11T7y2rNN-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 17:59:48 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02BEB37B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 17:59:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post2.inre.asu.edu (post2.inre.asu.edu [129.219.110.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5707543FE5 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 17:59:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from David.Bear@asu.edu) Received: from conversion.post2.inre.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V6.1 #40111) id <0HDR00801UQBC6@asu.edu> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 17:58:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from smtp.asu.edu (smtp.asu.edu [129.219.110.107]) by asu.edu (PMDF V6.1 #40111) with ESMTP id <0HDR006JZUQBYD@asu.edu> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 17:58:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from moroni.pp.asu.edu (moroni.pp.asu.edu [129.219.120.183]) by smtp.asu.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0/asu_smtp_relay,nullclient,tcp_wrapped) with ESMTP id h3N0wwH27960 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 17:58:59 -0700 (MST) Received: (from iddwb@localhost) by moroni.pp.asu.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h3N0wxP22743 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 17:58:59 -0700 Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 17:58:59 -0700 From: David Bear To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <20030422175859.D21104@asu.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i Subject: ACB timeout error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: David.Bear@asu.edu List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 00:59:48 -0000 I'm trying to install fbsd 4.7 rc1. During boot I get a message Waiting 15 seconds for scsi devices to settle probe11:adw0:0:12:0 ACB xcb7d31d0 timed out then the system reboots. The scsi card is actually a SIIG card.. don't know who sIIG is but it has advansys bios. And bsd sees it as an adw .. any pointers on what I might do to get this stable? -- David Bear College of Public Programs/ASU Mail Code 0803 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 18:09:34 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D20337B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 18:09:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.hitmedia.com (mail.hitmedia.com [205.162.11.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EA96A43F85 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 18:09:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsdlap@hitmedia.com) Received: (qmail 1064 invoked by uid 0); 23 Apr 2003 01:09:32 -0000 Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 18:09:32 -0700 From: BSD baby To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030423010932.GA869@mail.hitmedia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: setting up many FreeBSD boxes at once... advice? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 01:09:34 -0000 I'm going to be setting up 6 identical FreeBSD boxes at the same time. (Workstation boxes inside our office.) Each one with the exact same setup. Same ports installed, etc. Anyone whose done this before have any advice? Should I put /usr/ports on one NFS share so I don't have to keep cvsuping the directories or downloading the source files? Actually... if the boxes are identical is there any harm in doing a permanent NFS for the whole /usr partition? All sharing one /usr? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 18:24:41 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26B1437B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 18:24:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from server1.shellworld.net (server1.shellworld.net [64.39.15.178]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69F4343F93 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 18:24:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tforrest@server1.shellworld.net) Received: from server1.shellworld.net (tforrest@LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) h3N1OdNw042861 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 20:24:39 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tforrest@server1.shellworld.net) Received: (from tforrest@localhost) by server1.shellworld.net (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h3N1OdN7042860; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 20:24:39 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tforrest) Message-Id: <200304230124.h3N1OdN7042860@server1.shellworld.net> From: "Tommy Forrest - KE4PYM" To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 21:24:50 -0400 Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail98 with Bandit Tagger98 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Tag: Bandit Tagger98 - Registered to : KE4PYM Subject: Samba 2.2.8a no go on 4.8-Release X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 01:24:41 -0000 Hi All I've been trying for awhile now to get Samba to start.I've gone through about 5 complete system rebuilds trying to figure this (and a few other problems out). I update my ports collection and install from the ports. I try to start Samba (regardless if its from the rc.d script or through inetd) and it simply tells me that it exited on signal 6 and that there was a core dump. It does this regardless of using my smb.conf file from 4.2 or if I use the default script that comes with it, or if I make a fresh one using SWAT. What gives? I didnt find very much info on Samba's site about this issue. Tommy Forrest - KE4PYM - tforrest@shellworld.net My two cents: Windows: From the people who brought you EDLIN! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 18:29:26 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1998237B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 18:29:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pa-plum1b-166.pit.adelphia.net (pa-plum1a-215.pit.adelphia.net [24.53.170.215]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C78C43F3F for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 18:29:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from potentialtech.com (working [172.16.0.95]) h3N1TN0n000279; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 21:29:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Message-ID: <3EA5EC73.1020502@potentialtech.com> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 21:29:23 -0400 From: Bill Moran User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20030301 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Josh Paetzel References: <20030422170114.GG37008@ns1.webwarrior.net> In-Reply-To: <20030422170114.GG37008@ns1.webwarrior.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Disk Performance Issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 01:29:26 -0000 Josh Paetzel wrote: > I've got a FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE system with a Maxtor 6L040J2 ATA/133 7200 RPM > IDE OS drive in it on a gigabtye GA-7VRXP motherboard. I've also got a pair > of Western Digital WD800BB 7200 RPM ATA/100 drives in RAID 1 on an onboard > Promise 20276 ATA/133 RAID Controller. > > atacontrol reports that all the drives are being properly probed: > > ===root@markx ('tty') /storage/os_isos -> atacontrol mode 0 > Master = UDMA133 > Slave = ??? > ===root@markx ('tty') /storage/os_isos -> atacontrol mode 1 > Master = PIO4 > Slave = PIO4 > ===root@markx ('tty') /storage/os_isos -> atacontrol mode 2 > Master = UDMA100 > Slave = ??? > ===root@markx ('tty') /storage/os_isos -> atacontrol mode 3 > Master = UDMA100 > Slave = ??? > > > My issue is that I'm seeing sustained transfer rates on 600-700 meg files in > the 5-6 Meg/second range...about 1/4 of what the drives are capable of. Does > anyone have any advice on where to go from here in troubleshooting this issue? You're reading the specs wrong. That drive is not capable of sustained through- put of 133mb/s. According to the data sheet, it can only do 44mb/s sustained. That seems to be about what you're getting. The ATA133 interface will only go at 133 until the drive's buffers fill up, then it has to slow down to match the actual speed the drive can transfer data to/from the platters. Some of the higher-end SCSI drives are capable of sustained speeds that high, but I don't know of any 7200 RPM drives that can touch it. Maxtor makes a 15000 RPM drive that can (purportedly) sustain 75megabytes/sec. (wow!) -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 18:30:28 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E12D37B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 18:30:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pop016.verizon.net (pop016pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.173]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADBDE43F3F for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 18:30:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com ([151.205.188.169]) by pop016.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.33 201-253-122-126-133-20030313) with ESMTP id <20030423013027.JZZU3199.pop016.verizon.net@mac.com>; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 20:30:27 -0500 Message-ID: <3EA5ECAE.5030509@mac.com> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 21:30:22 -0400 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4a) Gecko/20030401 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20030423010932.GA869@mail.hitmedia.com> In-Reply-To: <20030423010932.GA869@mail.hitmedia.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.74.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at pop016.verizon.net from [151.205.188.169] at Tue, 22 Apr 2003 20:30:26 -0500 cc: BSD baby Subject: Re: setting up many FreeBSD boxes at once... advice? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 01:30:28 -0000 BSD baby wrote: > I'm going to be setting up 6 identical FreeBSD boxes at the same time. > (Workstation boxes inside our office.) > > Each one with the exact same setup. Same ports installed, etc. > > Anyone whose done this before have any advice? Sure. You should consider one machine (ie, perhaps the one you use) as a build and test system. Build that out to 4.7p10 or 4.8/STABLE via cvsup; build and install the ports that you want. > Should I put /usr/ports on one NFS share so I don't have to keep > cvsuping the directories or downloading the source files? Certainly that would work. You can also do a "make package" and scp or otherwise copy the .tgz file, which can be added via pkg_add. > Actually... if the boxes are identical is there any harm in doing > a permanent NFS for the whole /usr partition? All sharing one /usr? People used to do this a lot when disk space was really expensive; it's one of the main reasons why a /usr partition exists. That being said, disk space is very very cheap nowadays, and FreeBSD is efficient in terms of "software content per MB of OS install space", however one wants to measure or guestimate that for one's situation. The main downside of using NFS sharing is that client machines tend to block hard if the NFS server goes down (not so good for a machine that might also be used as your test machine), and the security of NFS against a local intruder is effectively zero; make sure you have a firewall in place and block portmapper. Most probably, the risk of downtime isn't going to be worth $50 or whatever of disk storage that having each system be capable of booting without the network requires. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 18:41:34 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF0A537B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 18:41:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.monmouth.com (smtp.monmouth.com [209.191.58.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFB8943FDF for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 18:41:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from markov@monmouth.com) Received: from happy.markov.net (bg-tc-ppp1549.monmouth.com [209.191.34.166]) by smtp.monmouth.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h3N1escT071428 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 21:41:19 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 21:44:15 -0400 From: "Vlad D. Markov" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20030422214415.5bbd97f2.markov@monmouth.com> In-Reply-To: <20030422202808.GA39045@mail.hitmedia.com> References: <20030422202808.GA39045@mail.hitmedia.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.10 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.8) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: PCMCIA network card advice? Example rc.conf please? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 01:41:35 -0000 On Tue, 22 Apr 2003 13:28:08 -0700 BSD baby wrote: > An odd problem: I'm using a Linksys PCM100 PCMCIA network card on my laptop. > Works fine in Windows. It's on the FreeBSD approved hardware list. > > When I install FreeBSD 4.8 from the CD-Rom, it detects it, and I configure it. > (Which yes I know how to do. I do it all the time for regular installs.) > > But - when the laptop boots up, it doesn't seem to see the card. > No route to host, etc. > > I wonder if this has to do with the PCMCIA abilities being turned on in the > rc.conf *after* it's given the hostname, route, IP, etc? > > I'm just using the absolute default settings, so I don't think I'm doing anything > wrong. (I haven't done anything yet!) > > Just wondering if those of you with PCMCIA network cards could offer some > advice or maybe your /etc/rc.conf file as an example? > FreeBSD has a daemon pccardd which monitors the insertion/removal of PCMCIA cards. It reports on the console when it finds one inserted which is after the system is booted. In rc.conf one has to enable pccard (pccard_enable="YES"). Then since its a network card one should set pccard_ifconfig in rc.local. That is all I needed to do. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 19:01:28 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FA1C37B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 19:01:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.munk.nu (213-152-51-194.dsl.eclipse.net.uk [213.152.51.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFF8D43F93 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 19:01:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from munk@users.munk.nu) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=users.munk.nu ident=smmsp) by mail.munk.nu with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1989b1-000FYo-67 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 03:02:51 +0100 Received: (from munk@localhost) by users.munk.nu (8.12.9/8.12.8/Submit) id h3MAGYfa017259 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 11:16:34 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 11:16:34 +0100 From: Jez Hancock To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030422101634.GA17124@users.munk.nu> Mail-Followup-To: questions@freebsd.org References: <20030422024309.EEE493DD5@xmxpita.excite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030422024309.EEE493DD5@xmxpita.excite.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Out of disk space..how to free X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 02:01:28 -0000 On Mon, Apr 21, 2003 at 10:43:09PM -0400, Tom and Becky Foltz wrote: > We are using Webmin for our email server and we have been receiving the following message:At boot up: File system full After boot up: low on space (have 0,SMTP - DAEMON needs 01 i /var/spool/mqueue I'm unfamiliar with FreeBSD, but I've worked with Linux in the past. How do I free up some space? I've already deleted about 5000 email messages and rebooted the server (FreeBSD 4.0) about 4 times with the same messages. Got any ideas and directions?Thanks,Tom Try: df -h to get an idea of how full your disks are, example output: Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s1a 197M 64M 118M 35% / /dev/ad0s2e 14G 2.4G 11G 18% /home /dev/ad0s2f 14G 4.8G 8.5G 36% /opt /dev/ad0s1e 4.3G 1.9G 2.1G 48% /usr /dev/ad0s2g 2.9G 1010M 1.7G 37% /var procfs 4.0K 4.0K 0B 100% /proc Then also try: du /var | sort -n which will show you how much disk usage /var is taking up and sort it so that the larger files are to the end of the listing. If you notice anything untoward you might want to backup or delete. Also check that your logfiles are being compressed under /var/log and that they're rotated and preferably backed up out of the /var hierarchy. Just some ideas, Jez From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 19:27:17 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 659F137B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 19:27:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grumpy.dyndns.org (user-24-214-34-52.knology.net [24.214.34.52]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6360243F3F for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 19:27:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dkelly@grumpy.dyndns.org) Received: from grumpy.dyndns.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grumpy.dyndns.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h3N2RC14016004; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 21:27:12 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dkelly@grumpy.dyndns.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by grumpy.dyndns.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h3N2RBiR016003; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 21:27:11 -0500 (CDT) From: David Kelly To: chancedj@yahoo.com, questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 21:27:11 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 References: <20030422144553.17214.qmail@web9603.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20030422144553.17214.qmail@web9603.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200304222127.11459.dkelly@HiWAAY.net> Subject: Re: Serial Console Question (re-sent w/ subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 02:27:17 -0000 On Tuesday 22 April 2003 09:45 am, Daryl Chance wrote: > > I've searched the handbook and haven't found anything > about this. I'm trying to setup a serial console for > some remote machines i'm admining. I want to set it > up using null modem cables, as it says in the handbook > like so: > www:s1 - sql:s2 > www:s2 - mail:s1 > sql:s1 - mail:s2 > > From what i've read it needs a dumb terminal? Is it > possible to do it without using this and only setting > it up with the null modem cables and nothing else? I > assume this is possible, but the documentation doesn't > seem to say anything about using only the cables and > nothing more. Partly, the handbook shouldn't say anything about the cables when discussing serial consoles because that is another issue. These days the most common serial port is the DB9P mutation which appeared on the IBM PC-AT. You will need a "null modem" cable with female connectors, ie: DB9S (S = socket, P = pin). If I understand your table correctly you have 3 hosts, www, mail, and sql, and you wish to cross-connect their two each serial ports so that each may serve as the "dumb terminal" console of another. So for starters, by default, the zero'th serial port on a FreeBSD system is flagged in the kernel configuration for use as a serial console. Extracted from /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC, the flag bit in 0x10 is the critical point: # Serial (COM) ports device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4 device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3 device sio2 at isa? disable port IO_COM3 irq 5 device sio3 at isa? disable port IO_COM4 irq 9 So anyway, you need to remember its only the sio0 port where console messages appear. Of all the "terminal" software packages available, I still prefer good old simple ancient kermit. /usr/ports/comms/kermit/ On a FreeBSD host I use to connect to the serial console of another I have this in my ~/.kermrc. If the other system isn't powered up yet, or its serial port is not awake the CARRIER-WATCH parameter below prevents kermit from closing the connection. Notice also that you might put a getty on /dev/ttyd0 in /etc/ttys but when you connect out with kermit (or what ever you chose) you use /dev/cuaa0. set CARRIER-WATCH off set line /dev/cuaa0 set speed 9600 -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 19:35:02 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2DFF37B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 19:35:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from windmill.garlic.com (windmill-en0.garlic.com [208.195.160.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A684743FAF for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 19:35:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from madriax@garlic.com) Received: from SHMOOPIE2 (154.sm7.dialup.garlic.net [216.139.3.154]) by windmill.garlic.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id h3N2Yx788786 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 19:34:59 -0700 From: "Remington L." To: "Freebsd-Questions" Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 19:34:43 -0700 Message-ID: <000001c30940$ea41bec0$9a038bd8@SHMOOPIE2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: VPN Solution X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 02:35:03 -0000 I currently looking for a VPN server for FreeBSD 5.0-R. Right now poptop openvpn seem to be top contenders. I know poptop has Windows support but what about openvpn? Any comments about either pf these to ports would be greatly appreciated From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 19:38:56 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88F8C37B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 19:38:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from server.sirtis.org.uk (dsl-217-155-170-59.zen.co.uk [217.155.170.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0AD5343FE5 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 19:38:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonathan@sirtis.org.uk) Received: (qmail 22755 invoked by uid 1006); 23 Apr 2003 02:38:37 -0000 Received: from jonathan@sirtis.org.uk by server.sirtis.org.uk by uid 1011 with qmail-scanner-1.15 spamassassin: 2.43. Clear:SA:0(0.8/5.0):. Processed in 1.4741 secs); 23 Apr 2003 02:38:37 -0000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 Received: from unknown (HELO workstation) (webmail@sirtis.org.uk@217.155.170.58) by 0 with SMTP; 23 Apr 2003 02:38:35 -0000 From: "Jonathan" To: Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 03:39:04 +0100 Message-ID: <004301c30941$81be6a50$3aaa9bd9@workstation> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal Subject: Routing through two networks X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 02:38:56 -0000 Hi all, I'm trying to achieve something which, on the surface, seems quite simple but I can't for the life of me figure out a decent way of doing it. I have a server which lives within two networks - we'll say 193.0.0.0/24 and 217.0.0.0/24 for simplicity. One of these networks is US peered and the other isn't and due to this, the bandwidth charges are that much less for the non-peered allocation. All I'm trying to do is ensure that any traffic that comes in for 193.0.0.250 routes back out through 193.0.0.1 and anything that comes in for 217.0.0.250 routes back out through 217.0.0.1 keeping bandwidth charges to a minimum. The machine is running 4.8-STABLE and has 2 NICs, though I'm currently only wired for one. The router (which I don't have access to) appears to be the same physical router for both IPs. Any assistance would be muchly appreciated. Regards, Jonathan P.S. Apologies if this is an obvious question, I've been staring at too many man pages today! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 19:38:59 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BB2F37B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 19:38:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rain.CC.Lehigh.EDU (rain.CC.Lehigh.EDU [128.180.39.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34B1743FE3 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 19:38:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pat2@lehigh.edu) Received: from lehigh.edu (r075030.res.Lehigh.EDU [128.180.75.30]) by rain.CC.Lehigh.EDU (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h3N2cbd4021438 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 22:38:37 -0400 Message-ID: <3EA5FC9B.7060706@lehigh.edu> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 22:38:19 -0400 From: Paul Tsai User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20030324 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Palm and Freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 02:38:59 -0000 I have no idea how to get freebsd to detect my palm device. I can not find any documentation on it anywhere. This is extremely dissapointing to me I added uvisor and ucom to my kernel and still nothing... what is going on? Jpilot and pilot link cannot seem to find it .... I have a m130 series... does that mean it isn't supported? Please someone help! Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 19:41:34 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45B6637B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 19:41:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from h24-67-53-86.lb.shawcable.net (h24-67-53-86.lb.shawcable.net [24.67.53.86]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52DEC43FBD for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 19:41:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cmoline@shaw.ca) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by h24-67-53-86.lb.shawcable.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 391B195E for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 20:33:00 -0600 (MDT) From: Chris Moline To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <3EA5E709.10803@bigfoot.com> References: <1051047195.97785.27.camel@localhost> <20030422232748.GH92029@sub21-156.member.dsl-only.net> <1051055166.97785.39.camel@localhost> <3EA5DE0C.70803@bigfoot.com> <1051058448.97785.42.camel@localhost> <3EA5E709.10803@bigfoot.com> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1051065179.97785.52.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.0 Date: 22 Apr 2003 20:33:00 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: mouse wheel problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 02:41:34 -0000 On Tue, 2003-04-22 at 19:06, Erik Steffl wrote: > Chris Moline wrote: > > so far i have only tried one other protocol (MouseMan). ill try others > > and see. > > I bet it's protocol. I remember that I had problems figuring out > which protocol the mouse should be using, I used the one that docs said > to use and it didn't work and then I've found some example on the net > that worked... try to search the docs and net with this in mind. if > nothing works just try the protocols sequentially... also, this might > not be freebsd related (X is X), so try to search linux forums as well... ok. here is a list of protocols i have tried. for each of them i edited /etc/X11/ZF86Config and then attempted to start an x server. if the attempt was succesful i started up xev and tested the operation of my mouse. tomorrow i will search the x docs for a more exhaustive list of protocols but this will do for now. MouseMan mouse is funky ImPS/2 not supported on platform PS/2 funky SysMouse works, no wheel MouseManPlusPS/2 not supported on platform MouseSystems works, no wheel Logitech funky BusMouse Works, no wheel Microsoft funky MMSeries Funky IntelliMouse Funky ExplorerPS/2 not supported on platform gar. maybe i should just forget it chris moline From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 19:45:06 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CE3137B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 19:45:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grumpy.dyndns.org (user-24-214-34-52.knology.net [24.214.34.52]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62F3943FAF for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 19:45:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dkelly@grumpy.dyndns.org) Received: from grumpy.dyndns.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grumpy.dyndns.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h3N2g314016044; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 21:42:03 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dkelly@grumpy.dyndns.org) Received: by grumpy.dyndns.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h3N2g3wp016043; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 21:42:03 -0500 (CDT) From: David Kelly To: jfm@blueyonder.co.uk Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 21:42:00 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 References: <20030422184554.GA13432@grumpy.dyndns.org> <20030422193250.GA13774@grumpy.dyndns.org> <0cbbav01uff7p1r4cp0ipsrgqk59tdu592@4ax.com> In-Reply-To: <0cbbav01uff7p1r4cp0ipsrgqk59tdu592@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200304222142.00916.dkelly@HiWAAY.net> cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Accurate time without a network connection? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 02:45:06 -0000 On Tuesday 22 April 2003 04:19 pm, John Murphy wrote: > David Kelly wrote: > >Surfing http://www.ntp.org/ has turned up a lot of information but > >little hardware. Of most interest was use of sound card connected to > >radio receiver for decoding the time signals. But that's a touch > > exotic for this application. Else I'd use the $20 LCD "atomic > > clock" I have on my wall, a $25 USB "web-cam", and some sort of > > OCR. > > I nearly fell off my chair laughing after reading that 'solution'! Its something I'm afraid I'm going to have to do it one day just for the silliness. "Take that Linux! See how superior FreeBSD is with such cool stuff!" The irony is how much less such a solution would cost than purpose built-for-computer radio clocks. Other variations would read the time off analog clock faces, and sundials. > There's a self build method at the following URL with notes for USA > users: http://www.buzzard.org.uk/jonathan/radioclock.html > I'm determined to make one (or two) myself soon. That's a really interesting URL. Had already turned up bits and pieces of what was mentioned there. Had fumbled around in the German-language-only http://www.hkw-elektronik.de/ site where many of the parts come from but lacked a North American distributor or any mention of prices. > I think Charles Swiger gave the answer which will suit you best. Its a solution we've already tried. A calibrated ntp.drift file helps a bunch but isn't good for weeks, months or years. This is Unix where simplicity and low maintenance designs are expected. It is not Windows where careers are made by keeping everyone dependent on the high priests. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 19:48:38 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A533937B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 19:48:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns1.webwarrior.net (overlord-host99.dsl.visi.com [209.98.86.99]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CD1443F3F for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 19:48:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from friar_josh@webwarrior.net) Received: by ns1.webwarrior.net (Postfix, from userid 1003) id B9147253D5; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 21:48:35 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 21:48:35 -0500 From: Josh Paetzel To: Bill Moran Message-ID: <20030423024835.GN37008@ns1.webwarrior.net> References: <20030422170114.GG37008@ns1.webwarrior.net> <3EA5EC73.1020502@potentialtech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3EA5EC73.1020502@potentialtech.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Disk Performance Issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 02:48:38 -0000 On Tue, Apr 22, 2003 at 09:29:23PM -0400, Bill Moran wrote: > Josh Paetzel wrote: > >I've got a FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE system with a Maxtor 6L040J2 ATA/133 7200 > >RPM IDE OS drive in it on a gigabtye GA-7VRXP motherboard. I've also got > >a pair of Western Digital WD800BB 7200 RPM ATA/100 drives in RAID 1 on an > >onboard Promise 20276 ATA/133 RAID Controller. > > > >atacontrol reports that all the drives are being properly probed: > > > >===root@markx ('tty') /storage/os_isos -> atacontrol mode 0 > >Master = UDMA133 > >Slave = ??? > >===root@markx ('tty') /storage/os_isos -> atacontrol mode 1 > >Master = PIO4 > >Slave = PIO4 > >===root@markx ('tty') /storage/os_isos -> atacontrol mode 2 > >Master = UDMA100 > >Slave = ??? > >===root@markx ('tty') /storage/os_isos -> atacontrol mode 3 > >Master = UDMA100 > >Slave = ??? > > > > > >My issue is that I'm seeing sustained transfer rates on 600-700 meg files > >in the 5-6 Meg/second range...about 1/4 of what the drives are capable of. > >Does anyone have any advice on where to go from here in troubleshooting > >this issue? > > You're reading the specs wrong. That drive is not capable of sustained > through- > put of 133mb/s. According to the data sheet, it can only do 44mb/s > sustained. > That seems to be about what you're getting. The ATA133 interface will only > go at 133 until the drive's buffers fill up, then it has to slow down to > match > the actual speed the drive can transfer data to/from the platters. Some of > the > higher-end SCSI drives are capable of sustained speeds that high, but I > don't > know of any 7200 RPM drives that can touch it. Maxtor makes a 15000 RPM > drive > that can (purportedly) sustain 75megabytes/sec. (wow!) > > -- > Bill Moran > Potential Technologies > http://www.potentialtech.com http://www.dartek.com/printablespecs.cfm?ItemNo=79374 This claims my ATA/100 drives are capable of sustained data transfer of 52.5 Megs/sec. I don't think that's very accurate...most of the benchmarks I've seen are in the 20-30 Meg/sec range for modern ata/100 and 133 drives. 5 Megs/sec is NOT normal performance however. These numbers I'm throwing about all refer to susstained transfer rates on large files. Josh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 19:50:53 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 336D237B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 19:50:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90FA843FBF for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 19:50:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CB0AB51A6D; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 12:20:49 +0930 (CST) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 12:20:49 +0930 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Aniruddha Bohra Message-ID: <20030423025049.GG49736@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <3EA5B8CF.7080803@cs.rutgers.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0qt3EE9wi45a2ZFX" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3EA5B8CF.7080803@cs.rutgers.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Interrupt threads X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 02:50:53 -0000 --0qt3EE9wi45a2ZFX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Tuesday, 22 April 2003 at 17:49:03 -0400, Aniruddha Bohra wrote: > Hello > Reading the implementation of interrupt handling on i386, > and reading Greg Lehey's Usenix paper on FreeBSD 5.0 SMP > implementation, I understand that interrupt handling is done in > process context. This is needed partly to support sleeping while > handling the interrupt because GIANT needs to be locked and > a sleep is possible there. > > My question is after all subsystems that lock giant are made > INTR_MPSAFE will the implementation go back to non-process > context interrupt handling (as in older versions) ? No. INTR_MPSAFE means that the ISRs use their own locking scheme. They can still sleep. > Moreover, will the locking be per-IRQ or there will be a global > IRQ lock for ensuring atomic access to the ISRs ? No. The locks will be finer grained, generally per device, not per IRQ. > Finally why do we need to create a kernel thread for each IRQ - > why can't one kernel thread handle all the IRQs ? If the kernel thread sleeps on one lock, everything would stop. Even if you accept that you're only processing one interrupt at a time, I can't think of a way to do this without instant deadlock. That's the whole point of having the threads in the first place. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers --0qt3EE9wi45a2ZFX Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+pf+JIubykFB6QiMRAiNbAJ0T/R+xBKahiGf3r9fTapsT6g+xCwCfX4Lk HreUn2gNEB2hTl7X0XFY33Y= =ge4F -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0qt3EE9wi45a2ZFX-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 20:18:41 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C052F37B405 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 20:18:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grumpy.dyndns.org (user-24-214-34-52.knology.net [24.214.34.52]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93A7B43FB1 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 20:18:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dkelly@grumpy.dyndns.org) Received: from grumpy.dyndns.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grumpy.dyndns.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h3N3Id14016628; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 22:18:39 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dkelly@grumpy.dyndns.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by grumpy.dyndns.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h3N3IYl3016627; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 22:18:34 -0500 (CDT) From: David Kelly To: BSD baby , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 22:18:34 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 References: <20030423010932.GA869@mail.hitmedia.com> In-Reply-To: <20030423010932.GA869@mail.hitmedia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200304222218.34643.dkelly@HiWAAY.net> Subject: Re: setting up many FreeBSD boxes at once... advice? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 03:18:42 -0000 On Tuesday 22 April 2003 08:09 pm, BSD baby wrote: > I'm going to be setting up 6 identical FreeBSD boxes at the same > time. (Workstation boxes inside our office.) > > Each one with the exact same setup. Same ports installed, etc. > > Anyone whose done this before have any advice? > > Should I put /usr/ports on one NFS share so I don't have to keep > cvsuping the directories or downloading the source files? > > Actually... if the boxes are identical is there any harm in doing > a permanent NFS for the whole /usr partition? All sharing one /usr? Haven't installed multiple identical FreeBSD workstations much of late. But I wouldn't bother with the NFS shared filesystems idea. Build one system to your liking. Then clone it. Several ways to do it. Easiest to explain is to remove the other 5 HD's and temporarily install in your "master". I favor the "dump | restore" technique. Or dump each filesystem to a file and restore that dump image to similar partitions on the new drives. Variations on this theme is to create the dump images and boot the clone machines with the standalone live filesystem CDROM. Create the partitions. Then suck the dump images over the network or from custom CDROMs. Another way which works pretty good is to make careful notes on your actions within sysinstall building the first machine. Repeat on the other 5. Think I once saw a an option for reading custom install parameters/scripts from within sysinstall? Haven't pursued that lately. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 20:25:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68CA637B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 20:25:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from svmarshal.bytecraft.au.com (svmarshal.bytecraft.au.com [203.39.118.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F06C43FA3 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 20:25:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murraytaylor@bytecraftsystems.com) Received: from wombat.bytecraft.au.com (Not Verified[203.39.118.3]) by svmarshal.bytecraft.au.com with MailMarshal (v5,0,3,78) id ; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 13:27:20 +1000 Received: from mjtdev1.dand06.au.bytecraft.au.com (unknown [10.0.17.42]) by wombat.bytecraft.au.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE6273E42; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 13:25:41 +1000 (EST) From: Murray Taylor Organization: Bytecraft Systems To: "Remington L." , "Freebsd-Questions" Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 13:25:40 +1000 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <000001c30940$ea41bec0$9a038bd8@SHMOOPIE2> In-Reply-To: <000001c30940$ea41bec0$9a038bd8@SHMOOPIE2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200304231325.40759.murraytaylor@bytecraftsystems.com> Subject: Re: VPN Solution X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 03:25:52 -0000 Hmm.... We have setup a 'comms box' with mpd and ipsec ..... On the mpd side we have configured a /24 group out of our 10.0.0.0/8 internal range .... It looks quite amazing to see ng254 available at the end of ifconfig Currently nowhere near that number of vpn users, but it did stop the execs saying that the initial 6 were not enough ;-) Ipsec is for other uses not currently the mpd vpn. We are serving to Win2k, Win98 nad WinXP boxen mjt On Wed, 23 Apr 2003 12:34, Remington L. wrote: > I currently looking for a VPN server for FreeBSD 5.0-R. Right now poptop > openvpn seem to be top contenders. I know poptop has Windows support but > what about openvpn? Any comments about either pf these to ports would be > greatly appreciated > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > ************************************************************************ > This Email has been scanned for Viruses by MailMarshal. > ************************************************************************ -- Murray Taylor Special Projects Engineer --------------------------------- Bytecraft Systems & Entertainment Phone: 61 3 8710 2555 Fax: 61 3 8710 2599 Direct: 61 3 9238 4275 Mobile: 61 0417 319 256 Email: murraytaylor@bytecraftsystems.com or visit us on the web http://www.bytecraftsystems.com http://www.bytecraftentertainment.com ************************************************************************ This Email has been scanned for Viruses by MailMarshal. ************************************************************************ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 20:26:01 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA08E37B407 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 20:26:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.seekingfire.com (coyote.seekingfire.com [24.72.10.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D4E443FA3 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 20:26:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tillman@seekingfire.com) Received: from blues.seekingfire.prv (blues.seekingfire.prv [192.168.23.211]) by mail.seekingfire.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D95EBB2 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 21:25:59 -0600 (CST) Received: (from tillman@localhost) by blues.seekingfire.prv (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h3N3SY128488 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 21:28:34 -0600 Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 21:28:34 -0600 From: Tillman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030422212834.M20669@seekingfire.com> References: <20030423010932.GA869@mail.hitmedia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20030423010932.GA869@mail.hitmedia.com>; from bsdlap@hitmedia.com on Tue, Apr 22, 2003 at 06:09:32PM -0700 X-Urban-Legend: There is lots of hidden information in headers Subject: Re: setting up many FreeBSD boxes at once... advice? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 03:26:02 -0000 On Tue, Apr 22, 2003 at 06:09:32PM -0700, BSD baby wrote: > I'm going to be setting up 6 identical FreeBSD boxes at the same time. > (Workstation boxes inside our office.) > > Each one with the exact same setup. Same ports installed, etc. > > Anyone whose done this before have any advice? > > Should I put /usr/ports on one NFS share so I don't have to keep > cvsuping the directories or downloading the source files? Sure, or you export just the /usr/ports/packages directory. Then build all your packages on a single machine (preferably one of the faster computers), make sure that /usr/ports/net/clusterit is installed, and run `dsh portinstall -P foo_port` or `portupgrade -P foo_port` as necessary to keep the nodes identical. Something like `dsh 'portversion -vL='` can work wonders in telling you what needs to upgraded on your group of computers :-) -T -- Belief gets in the way of learning. Robert Heinlein From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 20:27:59 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 400E837B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 20:27:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stjohn.stjohn.ac.th (stjohn.stjohn.ac.th [202.21.144.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45EA743FCB for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 20:27:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mcrogerm@stjohn.ac.th) Received: from tulip.stjohn.ac.th ([203.151.134.104]) by stjohn.stjohn.ac.th (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA07635 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 10:26:40 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20030423101646.00a19060@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: stjohn.stjohn.ac.th:mcrogerm@127.0.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 10:27:50 +0700 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Roger Merritt Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: unable to install fontconfig X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 03:27:59 -0000 OK, this problem really comes from trying to upgrade my ports, but it's been going on for a couple of months now. I have cvsupped many times, built index, run portsdb -u, run pkgdb -F, always same result. Whenever I try to portupgrade a port which depends on fontconfig, or when I try to portinstall fontconfig, I get the following error: Running fc-cache to build fontconfig cache... fc-cache: "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts": caching, 0 fonts, 16 dirs fc-cache: "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi": caching, 0 fonts, 0 dirs fc-cache: "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi": caching, 0 fonts, 0 dirs fc-cache: "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/PEX": caching, 0 fonts, 0 dirs fc-cache: "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo": caching, 0 fonts, 0 dirs fc-cache: "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF": caching, 13 fonts, 0 dirs fc-cache: "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1": caching, 29 fonts, 0 dirs fc-cache: "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic": caching, 0 fonts, 0 dirs fc-cache: "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local": caching, 0 fonts, 0 dirs fc-cache: "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID": caching, 0 fonts, 0 dirs fc-cache: "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/encodings": caching, 0 fonts, 1 dirs fc-cache: "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/encodings/large": caching, 0 fonts, 0 dirs fc-cache: "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2": caching, 0 fonts, 2 dirs fc-cache: "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/100dpi": caching, 0 fonts, 0 dirs fc-cache: "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/75dpi": caching, 0 fonts, 0 dirs fc-cache: "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/util": caching, 0 fonts, 0 dirs fc-cache: "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType": Segmentation fault (core dumped) *** Error code 139 The seg fault *always* comes while trying to build the cache for TrueType. I have 175 font files in there -- could that be the problem? I have 560 on my Windoze machine and *that* has caused a problem with Java. I don't have a lot of disc space -- the hard drive is only 4 gigabyte, but everything else seems to work (except I *don't* have enough room to install XFree86 4.3.* from the port -- had to install the binaries). It seems quite a few other ports depend on fontconfig, and every time I try to upgrade one of them I run into this. Any suggestions? -- Roger From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 20:31:31 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7ED037B404 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 20:31:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from basis0.net (12-229-193-239.client.attbi.com [12.229.193.239]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5421543FAF for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 20:31:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jasonm@techie.com) Received: (qmail 5083 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2003 03:12:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO jasonm.basis0.net) (12.229.193.239) by 0 with SMTP; 23 Apr 2003 03:12:33 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Jason Morefield To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 20:31:37 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200304222031.41947.jasonm@techie.com> Subject: Copying a VCD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jasonm@techie.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 03:31:32 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 First of all thank you in advance for all your help. What I'm trying to do is copy a VCD. I have googled, searched the archiv= es=20 and pulled my hair out pretty close to completion. I have tried mounting= the=20 cd which works but i cannot copy the data off of it. I have tried using = "dd"=20 to copy straight from /dev/acd0c and it doesn't work. I know that VCD's = use=20 a seperate track for each video file so i followed the instructions in th= e=20 handbook for audio cd copying in the hopes it would work. This included = "cd=20 /dev; sh MAKEDEV acd0t99" then trying to use "dd" from the second track. = The=20 second track is the video track i confirmed this using "cdcontrol -f=20 /dev/acd0c" and the "info" command. mplayer can and will play any of the= =20 VCD's i use but i cannot find a way to copy them. This is on FreeBSD=20 4.7-RELEASE on an i386. My dmesg follows. Once again thank you for all = your=20 help - --Begin dmesg-- Copyright (c) 1992-2002 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 =09The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE #0: Sun Mar 23 22:06:44 PST 2003 root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/JASON Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor (1009.95-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin =3D "AuthenticAMD" Id =3D 0x642 Stepping =3D 2 =20 Features=3D0x183f9ff AMD Features=3D0xc0440000<,AMIE,DSP,3DNow!> real memory =3D 268353536 (262064K bytes) config> di pcic0 config> di sn0 config> di lnc0 config> di ie0 config> di fe0 config> di cs0 config> en sio3 config> po sio3 0x2e8 config> ir sio3 9 config> f sio3 0 config> en sio2 config> po sio2 0x3e8 config> ir sio2 5 config> f sio2 0 config> q avail memory =3D 254324736 (248364K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc069a000. Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc069a09c. Preloaded elf module "linux.ko" at 0xc069a0ec. Preloaded elf module "snd_emu10k1.ko" at 0xc069a18c. Preloaded elf module "snd_pcm.ko" at 0xc069a230. Preloaded elf module "umass.ko" at 0xc069a2d0. Preloaded elf module "nvidia.ko" at 0xc069a370. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled md0: Malloc disk Using $PIR table, 9 entries at 0xc00f1370 npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 nvidia0: mem 0xf4000000-0xf5ffffff,0xf2000000-0xf2ff= ffff=20 irq 11 at device 5.0 on pci1 isab0: at device 4.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xd800-0xd80f at device 4.1 = on=20 pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 uhci0: port 0xd400-0xd41f irq 10 at device 4.= 2 on=20 pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ums0: Microsoft Microsoft IntelliMouse\M-. 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