From owner-freebsd-smp Sun Jan 12 7:49:44 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB34C37B401; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 07:49:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from cs.huji.ac.il (cs.huji.ac.il [132.65.16.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7479243F13; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 07:49:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from danny@cs.huji.ac.il) Received: from pampa.cs.huji.ac.il ([132.65.80.32] ident=danny) by cs.huji.ac.il with esmtp id 18XkMn-000A5B-00; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 17:49:41 +0200 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: smp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Asus/PR-DLSR smp hangs on boot In-reply-to: Your message of Wed, 08 Jan 2003 11:21:13 +0200 . Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 17:49:41 +0200 From: Danny Braniss Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org problem solved, i had apm enabled. danny > hi, > I have yet another dual box to test, Asus Dual Intel/Xeon, > this one came preconfigured with 4.7 Release, and 'sort of works' - using the > 1Giga ethernet is problematic. > > The latest 4.7 stable hangs on boot - just after > SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! > > btw, the -release hangs here for about 20 seconds, then goes on ok. > > here are 2 logs: > ftp://ftp/users/danny/freebsd/logs/release.log is from a successfull boot > ftp://ftp/users/danny/freebsd/logs/stable.log is from a failed boot. > > thanks, > danny > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-smp Wed Jan 15 5:15: 8 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6D3D37B401 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 05:15:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from x12.dk (0x503e5a05.kd4nxx3.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk [80.62.90.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F059043F65 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 05:15:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from xride@x12.dk) Received: from x12.dk (xride@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by x12.dk (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0FDGJ0N089396 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 14:16:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from xride@x12.dk) Received: from localhost (xride@localhost) by x12.dk (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id h0FDGIGo089393 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 14:16:18 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 14:16:18 +0100 (CET) From: Soeren Straarup To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Subject: Over heating of the ABit BP6 motherboard Message-ID: <20030115141300.S45542-100000@x12.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi. I have an ABit motherboard and it seems to be unstable under heavy loads. I have monitored the temperature. The Case is an Aopen HQ-08, motherboard ABit BP6, dual celeron 533 66mhz bus. I just wondered if any one else have thsi problem and how they have solved it.. I almost think that i have solved it .. but it is still getting unstable sometimes.. I have added two more fans to it.. one 8cm and one 4cm. Best regards S=F8ren. *--------------------------------------------------------------------------= -* | Soeren Straarup Mobile: +45 20 27 62 44 = | | FreeBSD wannabe since 2.2.6-R http://xride.x12.dk = | | Also running OpenBSD and NetBSD = | *--------------------------------------------------------------------------= -* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-smp Wed Jan 15 5:50:39 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 801D537B401 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 05:50:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.shorewood-epc.co.uk (mail.shorewood-epc.co.uk [195.10.240.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80E4A43F6B for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 05:50:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd-smp@epcdirect.co.uk) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.shorewood-epc.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DE7C66D13; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 13:49:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lfarr (host-192.shorewood-epc.co.uk [192.168.15.192]) by mail.shorewood-epc.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F3E366CFD; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 13:49:43 +0000 (GMT) From: "Lawrence Farr" To: Cc: "'Soeren Straarup'" Subject: RE: Over heating of the ABit BP6 motherboard Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 13:50:27 -0000 Message-ID: <012a01c2bc9d$0fc6a840$c00fa8c0@lfarr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 In-Reply-To: <20030115141300.S45542-100000@x12.dk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: by Shorewood EPC X-Razor-id: 59cac01c85dfeff2bf75223f51cdadbc8f2828eb Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is your board Revision 1.1?=20 Have a look at this: http://www.bp6.com/Q6fix.php Mine was, and was junk under load till I did this fix. Lawrence Farr EPC Direct Limited=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG=20 > [mailto:owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of Soeren Straarup > Sent: 15 January 2003 13:16 > To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org > Subject: Over heating of the ABit BP6 motherboard >=20 >=20 >=20 > Hi. >=20 > I have an ABit motherboard and it seems to be unstable under=20 > heavy loads. > I have monitored the temperature. > The Case is an Aopen HQ-08, motherboard ABit BP6, dual=20 > celeron 533 66mhz > bus. >=20 > I just wondered if any one else have thsi problem and how=20 > they have solved > it.. > I almost think that i have solved it .. but it is still=20 > getting unstable > sometimes.. I have added two more fans to it.. one 8cm and one 4cm. >=20 > Best regards S=F8ren. >=20 >=20 > *------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------* > | Soeren Straarup Mobile: +45 20 27 62=20 > 44 | > | FreeBSD wannabe since 2.2.6-R http://xride.x12.dk =20 > | > | Also running OpenBSD and NetBSD =20 > | > *------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------* >=20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message >=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-smp Wed Jan 15 8:32:23 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71FE837B401 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 08:32:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from taurus.srccomp.com (taurus.srccomp.com [65.212.36.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCF9843F3F for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 08:32:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from oconnor@srccomp.com) Received: from newton (newton [10.0.0.52]) by taurus.srccomp.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA01249; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 09:28:49 -0700 (MST) Subject: Re: Over heating of the ABit BP6 motherboard From: "Jim O'Connor" To: Soeren Straarup Cc: freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20030115141300.S45542-100000@x12.dk> References: <20030115141300.S45542-100000@x12.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 (1.0.8-10) Date: 15 Jan 2003 09:29:55 -0700 Message-Id: <1042648201.30185.6.camel@newton> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 06:16, Soeren Straarup wrote: >=20 > Hi. >=20 > I have an ABit motherboard and it seems to be unstable under heavy loads. > I have monitored the temperature. > The Case is an Aopen HQ-08, motherboard ABit BP6, dual celeron 533 66mhz > bus. >=20 > I just wondered if any one else have thsi problem and how they have solve= d > it.. > I almost think that i have solved it .. but it is still getting unstable > sometimes.. I have added two more fans to it.. one 8cm and one 4cm. >=20 > Best regards S=F8ren. >=20 >=20 > *------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---* > | Soeren Straarup Mobile: +45 20 27 62 44 = | > | FreeBSD wannabe since 2.2.6-R http://xride.x12.dk = | > | Also running OpenBSD and NetBSD = | > *------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---* >=20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message >=20 I had a similar problem. I can't tell you what brand case I have, but I mounted another fan in the back of the cabinet to pull air=20 out and have had no problems since. This particular cabinet happened to have vents in the back for an additional fan. Jim O'Connor=20 SRC Computers, Inc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-smp Wed Jan 15 8:41:50 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C6B437B401 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 08:41:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from woolridge.ca (ip30-166.tor.istop.com [66.11.166.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2EEF643F43 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 08:41:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dale-list-freebsd-smp-2@woolridge.org) Received: (qmail 68179 invoked by uid 1000); 15 Jan 2003 16:41:41 -0000 Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 11:41:41 -0500 From: Dale Woolridge To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Over heating of the ABit BP6 motherboard Message-ID: <20030115164141.GG1524@woolridge.ca> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org References: <20030115141300.S45542-100000@x12.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20030115141300.S45542-100000@x12.dk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 15-Jan-2003 14:16 Soeren Straarup wrote: | | Hi. | | I have an ABit motherboard and it seems to be unstable under heavy loads. | I have monitored the temperature. | The Case is an Aopen HQ-08, motherboard ABit BP6, dual celeron 533 66mhz | bus. | | I just wondered if any one else have thsi problem and how they have solved | it.. | I almost think that i have solved it .. but it is still getting unstable | sometimes.. I have added two more fans to it.. one 8cm and one 4cm. | | Best regards Søren. I found an article recently about bad capacitors in the VP6 (by Jackcon). I honestly don't know if the same manufacturer produced bad caps for the BP6, but the BP6 definitely has caps made by Jackcon. My old BP6 board blew (*pop*) one such cap and the others have similar physical properties as the faulty ones reported in the VP6. Look for bulging cap tops and/or brownish ooze on top. You should pay particular attention to both (1000uF/10v) 2x2 cap blocks: EC{20,21,24,25} and EC{18,19,22,23}. I'll be fixing my BP6 board with new caps in the above locations as well as the reported EC10 cap problem. As far as I know, simply replacing the 1000uF/10v caps with non-Jackcon ones is sufficient. As per reports, I'll replace EC10 with a 1500uF/6.3v cap. I'll send out another note once my changes are complete (reporting success/failure). Regarding the VP6 cap problem, some people have replaced their own caps with caps of the same uF/v rating. Others, who have gone the RMA route with the VP6, had their caps replaced with altogether different ones, although I can't recall the uF/v rating on the new caps. -- -Dale To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-smp Wed Jan 15 11:33:38 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 751DE37B401 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 11:33:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailman.zeta.org.au (mailman.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44C4D43ED8 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 11:33:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bde@zeta.org.au) Received: from katana.zip.com.au (katana.zip.com.au [61.8.7.246]) by mailman.zeta.org.au (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA27505 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 06:33:28 +1100 Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 06:34:32 +1100 (EST) From: Bruce Evans X-X-Sender: bde@gamplex.bde.org To: smp@freebsd.org Subject: a deadlock stopping cpus Message-ID: <20030116055505.A292-100000@gamplex.bde.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Suppose that one CPU calls stop_cpus_() while sched_lock is held. This happens 100% of the time if a CPU that holds sched_lock is in ddb. Suppose that another CPU begins handling an interrupt while sched_lock is held but the IPI to stop the second CPU has not been delivered. Then the second CPU spins endlessly (*) in mtx_lock_spin() called from ithread_schedule() because all its interrupts are masked (at least on i386's) so the IPI can't be delivered, and the first CPU spins endlessly (**) in stop_cpus() because the second CPU can't be stopped. The fix probably involves not masking all interrupts while handling ordinary interrupts. Masking hardware interrupts in the APIC only should be sufficient on i386's. ISTR that old versions attempted to do this but had bugs like allowing software interrupts to preempt hardware interrupts (not just the hardware interrupt handler but its scheduling). Hopefully we now need only sched_lock for the scheduling. Spinlocks no longer mask all interrupts on at least i386's. (*) The spin actually times out after too long. It panics with a bogus message about timing out after > 5 seconds when the timeout is more like 500 seconds. (**) The spin actually times out after just 100000 atomic_load_acq_int()s in the DIAGNOSTIC case. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-smp Wed Jan 15 18: 7: 0 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DB7637B405 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 18:06:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CD8D43F6D for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 18:06:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0E04251955; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:36:55 +1030 (CST) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:36:55 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Lawrence Farr Cc: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org, Soeren Straarup Subject: Re: Over heating of the ABit BP6 motherboard Message-ID: <20030116020654.GK17072@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20030115141300.S45542-100000@x12.dk> <012a01c2bc9d$0fc6a840$c00fa8c0@lfarr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <012a01c2bc9d$0fc6a840$c00fa8c0@lfarr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wednesday, 15 January 2003 at 13:50:27 -0000, Lawrence Farr wrote: > On 15 January 2003 13:16, Soeren Straarup wrote: >> I have an ABit motherboard and it seems to be unstable under heavy >> loads. I have monitored the temperature. The Case is an Aopen >> HQ-08, motherboard ABit BP6, dual celeron 533 66mhz bus. >> >> I just wondered if any one else have thsi problem and how they have >> solved it.. I almost think that i have solved it .. but it is >> still getting unstable sometimes.. I have added two more fans to >> it.. one 8cm and one 4cm. > > Is your board Revision 1.1? > > Have a look at this: > http://www.bp6.com/Q6fix.php > > Mine was, and was junk under load till I did this fix. Hmm. Interesting. Unfortunately, the URL isn't very clear about exactly where the version number is. I can't see one on my board. Is this on the underside of the board? If so, is there some relationship with the BIOS revision? I don't really want to take the machine apart. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-smp Wed Jan 15 19:41:12 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27A2437B401 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 19:41:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from woolridge.ca (ip30-166.tor.istop.com [66.11.166.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 268CE43F5F for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 19:41:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dale-list-freebsd-smp-2@woolridge.org) Received: (qmail 69487 invoked by uid 1000); 16 Jan 2003 03:41:04 -0000 Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:41:04 -0500 From: Dale Woolridge To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Over heating of the ABit BP6 motherboard Message-ID: <20030116034104.GA69232@woolridge.ca> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org References: <20030115141300.S45542-100000@x12.dk> <012a01c2bc9d$0fc6a840$c00fa8c0@lfarr> <20030116020654.GK17072@wantadilla.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030116020654.GK17072@wantadilla.lemis.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 16-Jan-2003 12:36 Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: | | Hmm. Interesting. Unfortunately, the URL isn't very clear about | exactly where the version number is. I can't see one on my board. Is | this on the underside of the board? If so, is there some relationship | with the BIOS revision? I don't really want to take the machine | apart. Unfortunately, yes, the version number is on the underside of the board, right under the mouse/kbd ports in the corner. The version number looks as if it's etched/printed on the board, whereas the revision is printed on the sticker attached to edge ISA slot. Perhaps that's an indicator the version is less volatile than the version? I don't know if there's any relationship between the BIOS revision and the board version number. -- -Dale To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message