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Gregory Sutter <gsutter@zer0.org> wrote:
 > On 2003-02-27 16:40 -0500, Kenneth W Cochran <kwc@TheWorld.com> wrote:
 > > Mozilla has looked awful here ever since going past
 > > 1.1.-something, i.e. with addition of Xft.  Disabling Xft
 > > in the (newer) Mozilla build/install hasn't help much.
 > 
 > If you have the mozilla-fonts package installed, then remove it.
 > Ironically, the newer mozillas don't get along with mozilla-fonts.
 > Go figure.

Ironically, the mozilla-fonts package was intended for older
versions of Mozilla (i.e. Netscape 2.x/3.x/4.x) to work around
a bug in MS Internet Explorer.

The MS IE had a bug to display certain fonts too large.
Consequently, web authors started using smaller font sizes
(<font size="-2"> and the like).  While those came out the
right size on MS IE, they were much too small and unreadable
on browsers which tried to render the fonts correctly, such
as Netscape/Mozilla.  Therefore, the mozilla-fonts package
was "invented" as a work-around:  It contains fonts at a
readable size whose recorded sizes (in the font files) are
smaller than they actually are.  The result is, that the
browser uses these fonts, thinking that they are as small
as the web page author specified, but actually they come out
larger (i.e. readable).  In other words:  These fonts simulate
the old font bug of MS IE.

I agree that it should be removed if installed.  :-)

Regards
   Oliver

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that 10 or 15 years from now, she will come to me and say "Daddy, where
were you when they took freedom of the press away from the Internet?"
       -- Mike Godwin

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At 2003-02-27T21:57:51Z, hans@lambermont.dyndns.org (Hans Lambermont) write=
s:

> Btw, I'd like to see your modified pkgtools.conf files. Is there a place
> where these are discussed already ? (because it's a bit off-topic ;-)

My local changes are pretty simple.  I want mail/cclient and mail/imap-uw to
be build with plaintext authentication, and I don't like to mess with
mod_php4's configuration menu:

  MAKE_ARGS =3D {
    'www/mod_php4' =3D> 'BATCH=3DYES PHP4_OPTIONS=3D\'\"GD2\" \"zlib\" \"bz=
ip2\" \"mcrypt\" \"mhash\" \"MySQL\" \"PostgreSQL\" \"mnoGoSearch\" \"XML\"=
 \"XMLRPC\" \"CURL\" \"gettext\" \"iconv\" \"pspell\" \"BCMath\" \"MCAL\" \=
"sockets\" \"sysvsem\" \"sysvshm\" \"transsid\"\'',
    'mail/cclient' =3D> 'WITH_SSL_AND_PLAINTEXT=3Dyes',
    'mail/imap-uw' =3D> 'WITH_SSL_AND_PLAINTEXT=3Dyes'
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Evening ...

  In order to try and do some debugging of recent issues with vnodes, I
decided to pull down CVSROOT, so that cvsup doesn't overwrite any of my
changes ... after doign a 'cvs checkout -rRELENG_4_7', I tried to do a
'make buildworld', but the libskey directory is empty, and, therefore,
fails the build process ...

  in my CVSROOT, its empty as well:

freebsd47# ls /home/ncvs/src/lib/libskey
Attic
freebsd47#

  is there a seperate package I need to download for this?

Thanks ...

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On Sunday,  2 March 2003 at 18:18:00 -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
>
> Evening ...
>
>   In order to try and do some debugging of recent issues with vnodes, I
> decided to pull down CVSROOT, so that cvsup doesn't overwrite any of my
> changes ... after doign a 'cvs checkout -rRELENG_4_7', I tried to do a
> 'make buildworld', but the libskey directory is empty, and, therefore,
> fails the build process ...
>
>   in my CVSROOT, its empty as well:
>
> freebsd47# ls /home/ncvs/src/lib/libskey
> Attic
> freebsd47#
>
>   is there a seperate package I need to download for this?
>
> Thanks ...

  $ rlog /home/ncvs/src/lib/libskey/Attic/Makefile,v

  RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/lib/libskey/Attic/Makefile,v
  Working file: Makefile
  head: 1.17
  ...
  revision 1.17
  date: 2001/07/09 17:52:32;  author: markm;  state: dead;  lines: +1 -1
  Axe S/Key. OPIE is the legal successor.

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I have problem with installing cvsup from ports...I had installed fresh 4.5
release on my HDD an tried to get cvsup-without-gui from the ports
colection.
It was always ok until yesterday....an error code interupted ecerything....

my output:

Script started on Sat Jan 24 03:21:17 1914
marek# make iall build

===>  Extracting for cvsup-without-gui-16.1f
>> Checksum OK for cvsup-snap-16.1f.tar.gz.
===>   cvsup-without-gui-16.1f depends on file:
/usr/local/lib/m3/pkg/tcp/FreeBSD4/libm3tcp.a - not found
===>    Verifying install for /usr/local/lib/m3/pkg/tcp/FreeBSD4/libm3tcp.a
in /usr/ports/lang/ezm3
===>  Extracting for ezm3-1.0
>> Checksum OK for ezm3/ezm3-1.0-FreeBSD4-boot.tar.bz2.
>> Checksum OK for ezm3/ezm3-1.0-src.tar.bz2.
===>   ezm3-1.0 depends on executable: gmake - not found
===>    Verifying install for gmake in /usr/ports/devel/gmake
===>  Extracting for gmake-3.79.1
>> Checksum OK for make-3.79.1.tar.gz.
===>   gmake-3.79.1 depends on shared library: intl.1 - not found
===>    Verifying install for intl.1 in /usr/ports/devel/gettext
===>  Extracting for gettext-0.10.35_1
>> Checksum OK for gettext-0.10.35.tar.gz.
===>   gettext-0.10.35_1 depends on executable: libtool - not found
===>    Verifying install for libtool in /usr/ports/devel/libtool
===>  Extracting for libtool-1.3.4_2
>> Checksum OK for libtool-1.3.4.tar.gz.
===>  Patching for libtool-1.3.4_2
===>  Applying FreeBSD patches for libtool-1.3.4_2
===>  Configuring for libtool-1.3.4_2
creating cache ./config.cache
checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c -o root -g
wheel
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... yes
checking for working aclocal... missing
checking for working autoconf... missing
checking for working automake... missing
checking for working autoheader... missing
checking for working makeinfo... found
checking for gcc... cc
checking whether the C compiler (cc -O -pipe  ) works... yes
checking whether the C compiler (cc -O -pipe  ) is a cross-compiler... no
checking whether we are using GNU C... yes
checking whether cc accepts -g... yes
checking for ranlib... ranlib
checking host system type... i386--freebsd4.5
checking build system type... i386--freebsd4.5
checking for ld used by GCC... /usr/libexec/elf/ld
checking if the linker (/usr/libexec/elf/ld) is GNU ld... yes
checking for BSD-compatible nm... /usr/bin/nm -B
checking whether ln -s works... yes
checking for mawk... no
checking for gawk... no
checking for nawk... no
checking for awk... awk
updating cache ./config.cache
creating ./config.status
creating Makefile
creating doc/Makefile
creating tests/Makefile
configuring in libltdl
running /bin/sh ./configure  --prefix=/usr/local
i386--freebsd4.5 --enable-ltdl-install --cache-file=.././config.cache --srcd
ir=.
loading cache .././config.cache
checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c -o root -g
wheel
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... (cached) yes
checking for working aclocal... missing
checking for working autoconf... missing
checking for working automake... missing
checking for working autoheader... missing
checking for working makeinfo... found
checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... no
checking for gcc... (cached) cc
checking whether the C compiler (cc -O -pipe  ) works... yes
checking whether the C compiler (cc -O -pipe  ) is a cross-compiler... no
checking whether we are using GNU C... (cached) yes
checking whether cc accepts -g... (cached) yes
checking for working const... yes
checking for inline... inline
checking host system type... i386--freebsd4.5
checking build system type... i386--freebsd4.5
checking for ranlib... (cached) ranlib
checking for ld used by GCC... (cached) /usr/libexec/elf/ld
checking if the linker (/usr/libexec/elf/ld) is GNU ld... (cached) yes
checking for BSD-compatible nm... (cached) /usr/bin/nm -B
checking whether ln -s works... (cached) yes
updating cache .././config.cache
loading cache .././config.cache within ltconfig
checking for object suffix... o
checking for executable suffix... no
checking for cc option to produce PIC... -fPIC
checking if cc PIC flag -fPIC works... yes
checking if cc supports -c -o file.o... yes
checking if cc supports -c -o file.lo... yes
checking if cc supports -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions ... yes
checking if cc static flag -static works... -static
checking if the linker (/usr/libexec/elf/ld) is GNU ld... yes
checking whether the linker (/usr/libexec/elf/ld) supports shared
libraries... yes
checking command to parse /usr/bin/nm -B output... ok
checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate
checking for /usr/libexec/elf/ld option to reload object files... -r
checking dynamic linker characteristics... freebsd4.5 ld.so
checking if libtool supports shared libraries... yes
checking whether to build shared libraries... yes
checking whether to build static libraries... yes
checking for objdir... .libs
creating libtool
updating cache .././config.cache
loading cache .././config.cache
checking which extension is used for shared libraries... .so
checking which variable specifies run-time library path... LD_LIBRARY_PATH
checking for objdir... .libs
checking how to run the C preprocessor... cc -E
checking for ANSI C header files... yes
checking for malloc.h... no
checking for memory.h... yes
checking for stdlib.h... yes
checking for stdio.h... yes
checking for ctype.h... yes
checking for dlfcn.h... yes
checking for dl.h... no
checking for dld.h... no
checking for string.h... yes
checking for strchr... yes
checking for strrchr... yes
checking whether libtool supports -dlopen/-dlpreopen... yes
checking for dlopen in -ldl... no
checking for dlopen... yes
checking for shl_load... no
checking for shl_load in -ldld... no
checking for dld_link in -ldld... no
checking for dlerror... yes
checking command to parse /usr/bin/nm -B output... yes
checking for _ prefix in compiled symbols... (cached) no
updating cache .././config.cache
creating ./config.status
creating Makefile
creating config.h
===>  Building for libtool-1.3.4_2
Making all in .
cd .  && CONFIG_FILES=Makefile CONFIG_HEADERS= /bin/sh ./config.status
creating Makefile
rm -f ltmain.shT
date=`/bin/sh ./mkstamp < ./ChangeLog` &&  sed -e
's/@''PACKAGE@/libtool/' -e 's/@''VERSION@/1.3.4/'  -e
"s%@""TIMESTAMP@%$date%" ./ltmain.in > ltmain.shT
mv -f ltmain.shT ./ltmain.sh ||  (rm -f ./ltmain.sh && cp ltmain.shT
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rm -f ltconfig.T
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chmod +x ltconfig.T
mv -f ltconfig.T ./ltconfig ||  (rm -f ./ltconfig && cp ltconfig.T
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CC="cc" CFLAGS="-O -pipe" CPPFLAGS=""  LD="/usr/libexec/elf/ld" LDFLAGS=""
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*** Error code 1

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*** Error code 1

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*** Error code 1

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*** Error code 1

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*** Error code 1

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*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/net/cvsup-without-gui.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/net/cvsup-without-gui.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/net/cvsup-without-gui.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/net/cvsup-without-gui.
marek# ^Dexit

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Hi,

I'm running -stable and I just put in an older "SoundBlaster Live!" PCI
card I had laying around.  I added "device pcm" to my kernel config and
built a new kernel.

Something is detected at boot:

pcm0: <Creative EMU10K1> port 0xdc00-0xdc1f irq 10 at device 19.0 on pci0
pcm0: <TriTech TR????? ac97 codec>

The first entry may be the SB, I'm not sure of the chipset on that card.
The second entry is a mystery.  There is no onboard sound on my mainboard,
only this one card.

No sound emanates from the card no matter what app. I throw at it.  No
"device not configured" errors, and catting .au's to /dev/audio does not
produce any errors.

Any ideas?  It seems odd that I'm getting that second line on boot.

FreeBSD green.nat.fasttrackmonkey.com 4.8-PRERELEASE FreeBSD
4.8-PRERELEASE #5: Thu Feb 27 18:27:49 EST 2003
root@green.nat.fasttrackmonkey.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GREEN  i386

Thanks,

Charles

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On Wednesday 31 December 1969 04:00 pm, MArek wrote:
> I have problem with installing cvsup from ports...I had installed
> fresh 4.5 release on my HDD an tried to get cvsup-without-gui from
> the ports colection.
> It was always ok until yesterday....an error code interupted
> ecerything....
>
> my output:
>
> Script started on Sat Jan 24 03:21:17 1914
> marek# make iall build
>

2 things. Your date is really out of touch

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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2120 11:23:36 +0100
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Your system thinks it is the year 2120. Set your date to the correct 
date and time.

The string  "make i [Kall build" looks like a typo. Did you mean "make 
install"?

Kent


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  The first release candidate is now available.  The i386 FTP
installation directory and mini-ISO is available now from our many
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I found a few inconsistencies with the latest package set that we were
going to use for this one, so I haven't uploaded a full disc1 ISO at
this time.  When those problems are resolved a full disc1 ISO will be
made available.

  In the mean time, there are a lot of new features in 4.8-RC base
system that could use testing.  I've started the usual testing guide
here :

  http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.8R/qa.html

  Please email re@ if you have an open issue that should be reflected
on this page (actually, it's in CVS so sending a diff would be best!).
It would be nice to close some of the open sysinstall buglets before
this release goes out.  Please consider looking through the PR
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http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr-summary.cgi?category=&severity=&priority=&class=&state=&sort=none&text=&responsible=freebsd-qa&multitext=&originator=&release=

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Hi, All.

Why does my 4.8-PRERELEASE detect my CPU as 1000 MHz instead of real
1200 MHz ?

===Cut===
FreeBSD 4.8-PRERELEASE #0: Sat Mar  1 12:01:00 YEKT 2003
    emz@freedom.norma.perm.ru.:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FREEDOM
Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(TM) CPU                1000MHz (1009.95-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x6b1  Stepping = 1
  Features=0x383f9ff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE>
===Cut===

I have the same problem on 4.6-RELEASE (real CPU frequency is 1700
MHz):

===Cut===
FreeBSD 4.6-RELEASE #0: Mon Oct  7 17:54:30 YEKST 2002
    emz@tiger.norma.perm.ru:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TIGER
Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (1009.95-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x6b1  Stepping = 1
  Features=0x383f9ff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE
===Cut===

I have some FreeBSD-boxes running with CPU frequency lower than 1GHz -
FreeBSD detects them correctly.

Is it some kind of misconfiguration ? Can it cause problems ?

Thanks a lot.

                          WBR.
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On Monday 03 March 2003 01:39 am, Charles Sprickman wrote:
> The first entry may be the SB, I'm not sure of the chipset on that card.
> The second entry is a mystery.  There is no onboard sound on my mainboard,
> only this one card.
...
> Any ideas?  It seems odd that I'm getting that second line on boot.

Unfortunately I don't know what your problem might be, but it's not the 
existence of that second entry. The AC97 bit is just another component of the 
sound card. For example, I see

pcm0: <Creative EMU10K1> port 0x1840-0x185f irq 11 at device 13.0 on pci0
pcm0: <SigmaTel STAC9708/11 AC97 Codec>

in my dmesg for a SoundBlaster Live 5.1, and my sound works fine (okay, I'm 
using -current, but it worked fine on -stable too). The question marks with 
your AC97 might indicate a recognition problem, but I don't know...

Does 'cat /dev/sndstat' show an installed sound card?

-David

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Eugene M. Zheganin wrote:
> Hi, All.
> 
> Why does my 4.8-PRERELEASE detect my CPU as 1000 MHz instead of real
> 1200 MHz ?

Just because the processor is rated at 1200 doesn't mean that the
motherboard is running it at that speed.
Any time I've seen this problem, it was because the motherboard was
left to autodetect the CPU speed and didn't do so correctly (don't
know why they seem to incorrectly guess 1G)  Check your BIOS settings.

> 
> ===Cut===
> FreeBSD 4.8-PRERELEASE #0: Sat Mar  1 12:01:00 YEKT 2003
>     emz@freedom.norma.perm.ru.:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FREEDOM
> Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
> CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(TM) CPU                1000MHz (1009.95-MHz 686-class CPU)
>   Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x6b1  Stepping = 1
>   Features=0x383f9ff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE>
> ===Cut===
> 
> I have the same problem on 4.6-RELEASE (real CPU frequency is 1700
> MHz):
> 
> ===Cut===
> FreeBSD 4.6-RELEASE #0: Mon Oct  7 17:54:30 YEKST 2002
>     emz@tiger.norma.perm.ru:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TIGER
> Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
> CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (1009.95-MHz 686-class CPU)
>   Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x6b1  Stepping = 1
>   Features=0x383f9ff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE
> ===Cut===
> 
> I have some FreeBSD-boxes running with CPU frequency lower than 1GHz -
> FreeBSD detects them correctly.
> 
> Is it some kind of misconfiguration ? Can it cause problems ?
> 
> Thanks a lot.
> 
>                           WBR.


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FYI: Some bioses will reset the cpu frequency to a lower value if the
machine is reset during a post. (Thinking the user overclocked the cpu,
which caused the system to not boot)

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Bill Moran
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 9:09 AM
To: Eugene M. Zheganin
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Subject: Re: wrong CPU frequency detection


Eugene M. Zheganin wrote:
> Hi, All.
>
> Why does my 4.8-PRERELEASE detect my CPU as 1000 MHz instead of real
> 1200 MHz ?

Just because the processor is rated at 1200 doesn't mean that the
motherboard is running it at that speed.
Any time I've seen this problem, it was because the motherboard was
left to autodetect the CPU speed and didn't do so correctly (don't
know why they seem to incorrectly guess 1G)  Check your BIOS settings.

>
> ===Cut===
> FreeBSD 4.8-PRERELEASE #0: Sat Mar  1 12:01:00 YEKT 2003
>     emz@freedom.norma.perm.ru.:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FREEDOM
> Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
> CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(TM) CPU                1000MHz (1009.95-MHz
686-class CPU)
>   Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x6b1  Stepping = 1
>
Features=0x383f9ff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,
PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE>
> ===Cut===
>
> I have the same problem on 4.6-RELEASE (real CPU frequency is 1700
> MHz):
>
> ===Cut===
> FreeBSD 4.6-RELEASE #0: Mon Oct  7 17:54:30 YEKST 2002
>     emz@tiger.norma.perm.ru:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TIGER
> Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
> CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (1009.95-MHz 686-class CPU)
>   Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x6b1  Stepping = 1
>
Features=0x383f9ff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,
PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE
> ===Cut===
>
> I have some FreeBSD-boxes running with CPU frequency lower than 1GHz -
> FreeBSD detects them correctly.
>
> Is it some kind of misconfiguration ? Can it cause problems ?
>
> Thanks a lot.
>
>                           WBR.


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From mysql compiled from ports:
Can't lock file (errno: 45)

I just rebuilt mysql 3.23.55 on FreeBSD 5.0, and I am trying to start
mysqld with my databases, and all of a sudden I'm getting this error.  I
was wondering if anyone has seen this and might know where I should start
looking?

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Are there any experienced takers?

FreeBSD-4.{7|8}
cd /usr/ports/www/mod_php4/ && make

fails with error below:





===>  Building for mod_php4-4.3.1
/bin/sh libtool --silent --mode=compile cc  -Iext/zlib/ -I/usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/ext/zlib/ -DPHP_ATOM_INC -I/usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/include -I/usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/main -I/usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1 -I/usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/Zend -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include/c-client -I/usr/local/include/mysql -I/usr/local/include/pspell  -DMOD_SSL=208112 -DMOD_PERL -DUSE_PERL_SSI -DAPPLLIB_EXP="/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/BSDPAN" -DEAPI -DAPPLLIB_EXP=/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/BSDPAN -I/usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/TSRM  -O -pipe -I/usr/local/include  -prefer-pic -c /usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/ext/zlib/zlib.c -o ext/zlib/zlib.lo
In file included from /usr/include/sys/param.h:104,
                 from /usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/TSRM/tsrm_config_common.h:14,
                 from /usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/TSRM/tsrm_virtual_cwd.h:26,
                 from /usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/main/php.h:360,
                 from /usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/ext/zlib/zlib.c:28:
/usr/include/machine/limits.h:81: warning: `LONG_MAX' redefined
/usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/Zend/zend.h:189: warning: this is the location of the previous definition
/usr/include/machine/limits.h:82: warning: `LONG_MIN' redefined
/usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/Zend/zend.h:193: warning: this is the location of the previous definition
In file included from /usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/TSRM/tsrm_config_common.h:14,
                 from /usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/TSRM/tsrm_virtual_cwd.h:26,
                 from /usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/main/php.h:360,
                 from /usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/ext/zlib/zlib.c:28:
/usr/include/sys/param.h:193: warning: `MAXPATHLEN' redefined
/usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/main/php.h:237: warning: this is the location of the previous definition
In file included from /usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/Zend/zend.h:202,
                 from /usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/main/php.h:34,
                 from /usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/ext/zlib/zlib.c:28:
/usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/Zend/zend_hash.h:119: syntax error before `va_list'
In file included from /usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/Zend/zend.h:203,
                 from /usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/main/php.h:34,
                 from /usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/ext/zlib/zlib.c:28:
/usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/Zend/zend_llist.h:34: syntax error before `va_list'
In file included from /usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/main/php.h:34,
                 from /usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/ext/zlib/zlib.c:28:
/usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/Zend/zend.h:285: syntax error before `va_list'
/usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/Zend/zend.h:423: syntax error before `va_list'
In file included from /usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/main/php.h:224,
                 from /usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/ext/zlib/zlib.c:28:
/usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/main/spprintf.h:40: syntax error before `va_list'
In file included from /usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/ext/zlib/zlib.c:28:
/usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/main/php.h:277: syntax error before `va_list'
In file included from /usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/main/php.h:360,
                 from /usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/ext/zlib/zlib.c:28:
/usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/TSRM/tsrm_virtual_cwd.h:159: warning: `struct utimbuf' declared inside parameter list
/usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/TSRM/tsrm_virtual_cwd.h:159: warning: its scope is only this definition or declaration, which is probably not what you want.
In file included from /usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/ext/standard/fsock.h:38,
                 from /usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/ext/standard/php_standard.h:44,
                 from /usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/ext/zlib/zlib.c:48:
/usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/main/php_network.h:113: syntax error before `socklen_t'
/usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/main/php_network.h:113: warning: `struct sockaddr' declared inside parameter list
In file included from /usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/ext/standard/php_standard.h:44,
                 from /usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/ext/zlib/zlib.c:48:
/usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/ext/standard/fsock.h:43: warning: `struct in_addr' declared inside parameter list
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/www/mod_php4.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/www/mod_php4.






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At 09:11 AM 03/03/2003 -0800, FreeBSD Security Advisories wrote:
>Module:         contrib_sendmail
>Announced:      2003-03-03
>Credits:        Mark Dowd (ISS)
>Affects:        All releases prior to 4.8-RELEASE and 5.0-RELEASE-p4
>                 FreeBSD 4-STABLE prior to the correction date
>Corrected:      2003-03-03
>1) Upgrade your vulnerable system to 4-STABLE; or to the RELENG_5_0,


Hi,
         I dont see this in the cvsup commit logs yet ?

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If memory serves me right, Mike Tancsa wrote:
> At 09:11 AM 03/03/2003 -0800, FreeBSD Security Advisories wrote:
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> >Credits:        Mark Dowd (ISS)
> >Affects:        All releases prior to 4.8-RELEASE and 5.0-RELEASE-p4
> >                FreeBSD 4-STABLE prior to the correction date
> >Corrected:      2003-03-03
> >1) Upgrade your vulnerable system to 4-STABLE; or to the RELENG_5_0,
>=20
>=20
> Hi,
>         I dont see this in the cvsup commit logs yet ?

Every cvsup mirror updates on a periodic schedule.  The commits to the
src tree (which happened about 30 minutes ago) probably haven't made
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On Mon, Mar 03, 2003 at 09:57:06AM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote:
> 
> Every cvsup mirror updates on a periodic schedule.  The commits to the
> src tree (which happened about 30 minutes ago) probably haven't made
> it to all the mirrors yet.  (You can see the changes in cvsweb,
> probably the cvs-all mailing list archives as well.)

As of 13:06 EST, the commits had made it to head but were NOT tagged
with RELENG_4 or RELENG_5_0 from cvsup3.  I gave up and downloaded the
patch, which worked fine on both of the above.

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In article <20030303185153.GA81524@pit.databus.com> Barney Wolff writes:

>As of 13:06 EST, the commits had made it to head but were NOT tagged
>with RELENG_4 or RELENG_5_0 from cvsup3.

cvsup3 updates every hour at 15 after.  I'm afraid you were just
unlucky.

- -GAWollman

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At this point, I'd guess probably not, given that there was (is?) some
amount of work for the MAINTAINER to do to get it to build correctly,
and there's not much chance for testing before the release, which is
only two weeks away.

That's just my guess, though, not a policy statement.  :-)

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In article <b3pkuo$u9p$1@FreeBSD.csie.NCTU.edu.tw>, you say...
>
>
>
>David Schultz wrote:
>
>> Thus spake Scott Sewall <sewall@ix.netcom.com>:
>> >
>> > The FreeBSD July - August 2002 Status Report mentions some VM issues in
>> > -stable related to vm_map corruption
>> > on large-memory systems under heavy loads. The report indicates there is
>> > ongoing work to MFC the bug fixes.
>> >
>> > Has the work to MFC the bug fixes to -stable been completed?
>> >
>> > I have a 4.6.2 system with 2GB of memory that's getting a page fault
>> > while in kernel mode. The failure occurs
>> > when "periodic daily" is run. The active process is always find. I
>> > suspect this system may be experiencing the
>> > problem described by the report.
>>
>> If you post the panic message and a backtrace, people might be
>> able to tell you more about the particular bug you're running
>> into.
>
>Here's the panic message, the gdb backtrace and dmesg boot ouput.
>
>-- Scott
>
>
>Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
>fault virtual address   = 0x0
>fault code              = supervisor write, page not present
>instruction pointer     = 0x8:0xc02d4f53
>stack pointer           = 0x10:0xff605c70
>frame pointer           = 0x10:0xff605ca4
>code segment            = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b
>                        = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
>processor eflags        = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0
>current process         = 275 (find)
>interrupt mask          = bio
>panic: from debugger
>panic: from debugger

If you don't think you had hardware problem, one possibility could be your 
kernel reached the default 1G size limit (esp with 2G or RAM). Check with:

  sysctl -a | fgrep kvm

if you kvm_free is get very close to the kvm_size, you may want to increase 
KVM_PAGES and see if that fixes your problem.

> [snip


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At 09:11 AM 03/03/2003 -0800, FreeBSD Security Advisories wrote:
>Module:         contrib_sendmail
>Announced:      2003-03-03
>Credits:        Mark Dowd (ISS)
>Affects:        All releases prior to 4.8-RELEASE and 5.0-RELEASE-p4
>                 FreeBSD 4-STABLE prior to the correction date
>Corrected:      2003-03-03
>1) Upgrade your vulnerable system to 4-STABLE; or to the RELENG_5_0,

I still have a FreeBSD-2.8 (-STABLE) system running which includes
sendmail-8.8.8. As the patches on sendmail.org only apply to
sendmail-8.9 - sendmail-8.12, i ported the patch.

Perhaps someone else needs this patch, so I've put it up for ftp at 
ftp://ftp.42.org/sendmail.8.8.8.patch

As I don't have an example E-Mail to test, I can not _guarantee_ that
this fixes it. But given the fact that I only had to change two lines
(which both were function declarations) from the official supported
patch, I'm sure that this patch fixes the problem.

CU,
    Sec
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On Thu, 2003-02-27 at 12:33, Patrick Bihan-Faou wrote:

> I tried to get as much information as possible from Dell's web site, but the
> only reference to chipsets and such was 'ServerWorks GC-SL w/CIOB-E'.
> Looking at the hardware notes for the upcoming FreeBSD 4.8 I don't see this
> mentionned anywhere, but it might be just a marketing name for something
> old.

We are using boards with ServerWorks chipsets on all our production
machines running 4.6 and 4.7-STABLE and we have had no problems in
almost two years. The PCI bridge on these boards shows up as a

pcib0: <ServerWorks NB6635 3.0LE host to PCI bridge> on motherboard

Now, like all good BIOS manufacturers :-) they probably called them
something different even when we bought them.

- Julian

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Mark,

You are more likely to get a response about a 5.0 problem on -current 
than on -stable.

Did you enable the rpc.lockd and rpc.statd in rc.conf and see if the
problem goes away?

-a

On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Mark Hennessy wrote:

> >From mysql compiled from ports:
> Can't lock file (errno: 45)
> 
> I just rebuilt mysql 3.23.55 on FreeBSD 5.0, and I am trying to start
> mysqld with my databases, and all of a sudden I'm getting this error.  I
> was wondering if anyone has seen this and might know where I should start
> looking?
> 
> Additionally, it appears that this error only comes up when the DATADIR
> for MySQL is set to a directory on an NFS-mounted drive.  I have also
> asked one of the MySQL lists, and they suggested looking at rpc.lockd,
> but would that be needed if no writes were being made?
> 
> --
>  Mark P. Hennessy					      mark@cloud9.net
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On Mon, Mar 03, 2003 at 09:33:56AM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:

>   $ rlog /home/ncvs/src/lib/libskey/Attic/Makefile,v
>=20
>   RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/lib/libskey/Attic/Makefile,v
>   Working file: Makefile
>   head: 1.17
>   ...
>   revision 1.17
>   date: 2001/07/09 17:52:32;  author: markm;  state: dead;  lines: +1 -1
>   Axe S/Key. OPIE is the legal successor.

It's still present in RELENG_4 though.  Perhaps the original poster
used the wrong checkout command.

Kris

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actually, I don't know *what* I did ... as soon as I saw Greg's email, I
did a second cvs update and it came in *shrug*

thanks ..

On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Kris Kennaway wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 03, 2003 at 09:33:56AM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
>
> >   $ rlog /home/ncvs/src/lib/libskey/Attic/Makefile,v
> >
> >   RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/lib/libskey/Attic/Makefile,v
> >   Working file: Makefile
> >   head: 1.17
> >   ...
> >   revision 1.17
> >   date: 2001/07/09 17:52:32;  author: markm;  state: dead;  lines: +1 -1
> >   Axe S/Key. OPIE is the legal successor.
>
> It's still present in RELENG_4 though.  Perhaps the original poster
> used the wrong checkout command.
>
> Kris
>

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On Tue, 2003-03-04 at 00:02, David Syphers wrote:
> > Any ideas?  It seems odd that I'm getting that second line on boot.

The second line is the AC97 codec attached to the SB Live.

> pcm0: <Creative EMU10K1> port 0x1840-0x185f irq 11 at device 13.0 on pci0
> pcm0: <SigmaTel STAC9708/11 AC97 Codec>
> 
> in my dmesg for a SoundBlaster Live 5.1, and my sound works fine (okay, I'm 
> using -current, but it worked fine on -stable too). The question marks with 
> your AC97 might indicate a recognition problem, but I don't know...
> 
> Does 'cat /dev/sndstat' show an installed sound card?

If it shows up in dmesg it will almost certainly be available for use.

There was a commit recently about no sound for the SB Live in 5.x, but I
don't know if that applies.

Also, as you say the question marks may indicate untested or poorly
tested code.

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I have an nforce motherboard with 2 hard drives attached to the primary
IDE controller and another hard drive and a cdrom drive attached to the
secondary one.

Back in the 4.4 through 4.6 days, there was no problem.

I recently wiped everything out and installed 4.7.  The install program
worked great, but upon booting the system, the kernel would crash right
after recognizing the secondary ide controller.  Disabling the secondary
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If I need to provide more detailed information, let me know.

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Casper Warming wrote:
> On 2003.03.03 16:20:01 +0000, Joe Laughlin wrote:
> 
>>I have an nforce motherboard with 2 hard drives attached to the primary
>>IDE controller and another hard drive and a cdrom drive attached to the
>>secondary one.
>>
>>Back in the 4.4 through 4.6 days, there was no problem.
>>
>>I recently wiped everything out and installed 4.7.  The install program
>>worked great, but upon booting the system, the kernel would crash right
>>after recognizing the secondary ide controller.  Disabling the secondary
>>ide in the bios did the trick.
>>
>>If I need to provide more detailed information, let me know.
>>
>>I'm not subscribed to this list, so if you could cc me any responses, 
>>that would be great.
>>
> 
> Just FYI. I experienced the same problem just recently (updating to 4.7-
> STABLE). As fair as I could see, my problem was a recent change in the ata 
> drivers when handling a UDMA33 drive that had failed into PIO mode.
> So if you have disk on the secondary controller running in PIO mode 
> (atacontrol mode 1), that might be a clue to your problem. I just switched 
> hardware. :)
> 
> Cheers,
> Casper Warming
> -
> The Scandinavian Perl Workshop - http://perlworkshop.dk 

Thanks.  But both drives on the secondary channel are in UDMA 33.


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On Monday 03 March 2003 05:38 pm, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
> There was a commit recently about no sound for the SB Live in 5.x, but I
> don't know if that applies.

That problem existed only for a short time, and only in CURRENT.

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On Mon, 2003-03-03 at 11:16, Bruce A. Mah wrote:
> At this point, I'd guess probably not, given that there was (is?) some
> amount of work for the MAINTAINER to do to get it to build correctly,
> and there's not much chance for testing before the release, which is
> only two weeks away.

(cross-posted to ports, who might be interested in this)

I've got imake-4 and XFree86-4-libraries, clients, documents, manuals,
and Server building and running on my machine and looking mostly correct
in their plists (-Server still needs work for non-x86).

The fonts ports should be quick to update.  I am still not sure what do
do with XFree86-4-(Font,Nest,VirtualFramebuffer,Print)Server.

Current version of the diff is at:
http://people.freebsd.org/~anholt/X/files/x430diff-1

Haven't given up hope for getting it in 4.8, but it's probably not
likely.

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My Apache core dumps when starting it (apachectl startssl) with
Apache+Mod_SSL+DAV+PHP

Normal apachectl start does not produce a core dump

Any hints?

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On 3 Mar 2003, Eric Anholt wrote:

> On Mon, 2003-03-03 at 11:16, Bruce A. Mah wrote:
> > At this point, I'd guess probably not, given that there was (is?) some
> > amount of work for the MAINTAINER to do to get it to build correctly,
> > and there's not much chance for testing before the release, which is
> > only two weeks away.
> 
> (cross-posted to ports, who might be interested in this)
> 
> I've got imake-4 and XFree86-4-libraries, clients, documents, manuals,
> and Server building and running on my machine and looking mostly correct
> in their plists (-Server still needs work for non-x86).

Cool!

> The fonts ports should be quick to update.  I am still not sure what do
> do with XFree86-4-(Font,Nest,VirtualFramebuffer,Print)Server.
> 
> Current version of the diff is at:
> http://people.freebsd.org/~anholt/X/files/x430diff-1
> 
> Haven't given up hope for getting it in 4.8, but it's probably not
> likely.

With all the problems supposedly fixed in 4.3 (especially the
ATI drivers (*)), it might be worth it to delay 4.8 a few days just
to include this port.

(*) I can confirm that 4.3 works with my ATI Radeon 7500 whereas
    it doesn't with 4.2.1.

-- 
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On Mon, Mar 03, 2003 at 09:23:57PM -0500, Daniel Eischen wrote:
> With all the problems supposedly fixed in 4.3 (especially the
> ATI drivers (*)), it might be worth it to delay 4.8 a few days just
> to include this port.

Please note that the ports freeze is not a hard-and-fast
deadline.  Portmgr will hear cases for anything that people
consider should be included.  It should be noted that we will
generally approve things that re@ thinks should be included.

Regards,
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On Mon, Mar 03, 2003 at 06:09:52PM -0800, Eric Anholt wrote:
> On Mon, 2003-03-03 at 11:16, Bruce A. Mah wrote:
> > At this point, I'd guess probably not, given that there was (is?) some
> > amount of work for the MAINTAINER to do to get it to build correctly,
> > and there's not much chance for testing before the release, which is
> > only two weeks away.
> 
> (cross-posted to ports, who might be interested in this)
> 
> I've got imake-4 and XFree86-4-libraries, clients, documents, manuals,
> and Server building and running on my machine and looking mostly correct
> in their plists (-Server still needs work for non-x86).

As for non-i386 -Server:

I have an almost finished set of diffs for ia64 to build and
install the official source tree. Building is ok, but the
install fails due to some additional server related builds.

Since ia64 is only for -current I'll wait until the dust
settles with 4.3.0 and 4.8 and pitch my patches to you for
review so that we can work on them for inclusion in the
XFree86 source tree...

JFYI,

-- 
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Stefan `Sec` Zehl schrieb:,

> I still have a FreeBSD-2.8 (-STABLE) system running which includes
> sendmail-8.8.8. As the patches on sendmail.org only apply to
> sendmail-8.9 - sendmail-8.12, i ported the patch.

Thanks, but you can use the sendmail-old (8.11.6) and sendmail (8.12.8) port.
I can create packages for 2.2.8 if needed.

kind regards Dirk

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> The first release candidate is now available.  The i386 FTP
[...]
> Please email re@ if you have an open issue that should be reflected
[...]
> - Murray / Release Engineering Team

I'm not jumping on anyone, but i just compared contents
of my "MFC candidates" mail folder with

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/?only_with_tag=RELENG_4

and it seems to me that following commits were forgotten somehow...
Well, if cvsweb isn't fooling me.

Sorry if i made a mistake...
(BTW, sysinstall is a mystery for me: why cvsweb doesn't show
its files in usr/sbin/sysinstall with RELENG_4 tag?)

Igor


> ume         2003/02/03 09:43:20 PST
> 
>   Modified files:
>     sys/alpha/linux      linux.h 
>     sys/compat/linux     linux_socket.c 
>     sys/i386/linux       linux.h 
>     sys/modules/linux    Makefile 
>   Log:
>   Add IPv6 support for Linuxlator.
>   
>   Reviewed by:    dwmalone
>   MFC after:      10 days
>   
>   Revision  Changes    Path
>   1.57      +1 -0      src/sys/alpha/linux/linux.h
>   1.35      +372 -88   src/sys/compat/linux/linux_socket.c
>   1.61      +1 -0      src/sys/i386/linux/linux.h
>   1.61      +5 -2      src/sys/modules/linux/Makefile
> 

> joerg       2003/02/05 13:02:57 PST
> 
>   Modified files:
>     sys/conf             options 
>     sys/dev/vinum        vinum.c vinumhdr.h vinumio.c 
>   Log:
>   Finally make vinum ready for the root filesystem in FreeBSD 5.x.  (A
>   similar patch has been in 4.x for a while, but is more hacky there.)
>   
>   For this to work, vinum has to be loaded early (e. g. from
>   boot/loader), for obvious reasons.  If the kernel env variable
>   (aka. loader variable) "vinum.autostart" is set, vinum then asks the
>   sysctl kern.disks for all available disks in the system, and scans
>   them for possible vinum headers.
>   
>   For statically compiled kernels, this behaviour can be obtained even
>   without boot/loader by using "options VINUM_AUTOSTART" (though this is
>   not the recommended way).
>   
>   Alternatively, the 4.x way to specify "vinum.drives" is also supported.
>   
>   No further hacks (like the 4.x "vinum.root" variable) are needed,
>   since in 5.x, mountroot() asks back at the drivers to have them
>   resolve the name of the root FS into a dev_t (using the dev_clone
>   eventhandler).
>   
>   (The MFC reminder below is for a partial MFC for vinum.autostart, the
>   rest is already there in 4.x.)
>   
>   Timed out on:   grog
>   MFC after:      2 weeks
>   
>   Revision  Changes    Path
>   1.373     +1 -0      src/sys/conf/options
>   1.50      +82 -0     src/sys/dev/vinum/vinum.c
>   1.28      +1 -0      src/sys/dev/vinum/vinumhdr.h
>   1.80      +7 -22     src/sys/dev/vinum/vinumio.c
> 

> joerg       2003/02/05 13:05:03 PST
> 
>   Modified files:
>     share/man/man4       vinum.4 
>   Log:
>   Document the recent changes for vinum as root filesystem.
>   
>   MFC after:      2 weeks
>   
>   Revision  Changes    Path
>   1.46      +62 -9     src/share/man/man4/vinum.4
> 

> njl         2003/02/09 13:49:45 PST
> 
>   Modified files:
>     sys/cam/scsi         scsi_da.c 
>   Log:
>   Quirk for Lexar Media Jumpdrive
>   
>   PR:             kern/47006
>   Tested by:      George Hartzell <hartzell@kestrel.alerce.com>
>   MFC after:      1 week
>   
>   Revision  Changes    Path
>   1.124     +8 -0      src/sys/cam/scsi/scsi_da.c
> 

> mbr         2003/02/09 14:04:50 PST
> 
>   Modified files:
>     usr.sbin/sysinstall  tcpip.c 
>   Log:
>   Explicitly release a existing lease before we start dhclient (again).
>   If we already have a lease and restart sysinstall (or something with
>   the net configuration goes wrong), we would have to reboot just
>   because there is a dhclient hanging around.
>   
>   Reviewed by:    murray (re)
>   MFC after:      5 days
>   
>   Revision  Changes    Path
>   1.126     +1 -0      src/usr.sbin/sysinstall/tcpip.c
> 

> gallatin    2003/02/16 09:30:49 PST
> 
>   Modified files:
>     sys/alpha/alpha      machdep.c 
>   Log:
>   When trimming memory to fit Maxmem, and we discard an entire cluster,
>   make certain to subtract its pages from physmem.  Otherwise we end up
>   running phys_avail_cnt negative, and bad stuff happens.
>   
>   MFC After: 1 week
>   
>   Revision  Changes    Path
>   1.193     +1 -0      src/sys/alpha/alpha/machdep.c
> 

> gallatin    2003/02/16 11:25:04 PST
> 
>   Modified files:
>     sys/alpha/alpha      machdep.c 
>   Log:
>   zero the end of the memory cluster we're disposing of.  Otherwise teh
>   vm page startup code finds a 20GB cluster on this wacky alphaserver I'm
>   working on..
>   
>   MFC After: 7 days
>   
>   Revision  Changes    Path
>   1.194     +1 -0      src/sys/alpha/alpha/machdep.c
> 

> maxim       2003/02/17 05:41:56 PST
> 
>   Modified files:
>     sys/net              if_spppsubr.c 
>   Log:
>   o Restore an interrupt priority level before return.
>   
>   Submitted by:   Roman Kurakin <rik@cronyx.ru>
>   Reviewed by:    joerg
>   MFC after:      5 days
>   
>   Revision  Changes    Path
>   1.99      +2 -0      src/sys/net/if_spppsubr.c
> 

> kris        2003/02/17 17:35:58 PST
> 
>   Modified files:
>     usr.sbin/keyserv     keyserv.c 
>   Log:
>   Use arc4random() instead of random() when generating the master key.
>   
>   MFC after:      1 week
>   
>   Revision  Changes    Path
>   1.11      +3 -2      src/usr.sbin/keyserv/keyserv.c
> 

> des         2003/02/18 06:30:43 PST
> 
>   Modified files:
>     usr.bin/find         option.c 
>   Log:
>   Correctly alphabetize options[] so we don't stop at -nouser when searching
>   for -not.
>   
>   PR:             bin/48423
>   Submitted by:   Matsumura Naoki <matsu@jp.FreeBSD.org>
>   MFC after:      3 days
>   
>   Revision  Changes    Path
>   1.19      +1 -1      src/usr.bin/find/option.c
> 

> ceri        2003/02/19 13:48:28 PST
> 
>   Modified files:
>     usr.sbin/sysinstall  install.c 
>   Log:
>   s/to try and retry/to retry/
>   
>   PR:             misc/48226
>   Submitted by:   Gary W. Swearingen <swear@attbi.com>
>   MFC After:      2 days
>   Approved by:    murray (mentor)
>   
>   Revision  Changes    Path
>   1.340     +1 -1      src/usr.sbin/sysinstall/install.c
> 

> mikeh       2003/02/20 12:13:07 PST
> 
>   Modified files:
>     usr.sbin/pkg_install/sign sign.c 
>   Log:
>   Initialize sign to NULL so that we don't attempt to free() it in case
>   of failure.
>   
>   MFC after: 1 week
>   
>   Revision  Changes    Path
>   1.3       +1 -0      src/usr.sbin/pkg_install/sign/sign.c
> 

> bmilekic    2003/02/21 15:12:32 PST
> 
>   Modified files:
>     sys/dev/tx           if_txvar.h 
>   Log:
>   Nuke EPIC_MGETCLUSTER entirely.  Since 1.60 we don't use it anymore and
>   instead use our optimized m_getcl().
>   
>   Submitted by: Hiten Pandya <hiten@unixdaemons.com>
>   MFC After: 1 week
>   
>   Revision  Changes    Path
>   1.17      +0 -13     src/sys/dev/tx/if_txvar.h
> 

> bmilekic    2003/02/22 06:46:31 PST
> 
>   Modified files:
>     sys/pci              if_xl.c 
>   Log:
>   Make xl use m_getcl() to allocate an mbuf and a cluster in one shot,
>   as opposed to one after the other.  This is faster in both -CURRENT
>   and -STABLE.  Additionally, there is less code duplication for
>   error-checking.
>   
>   One thing to note is that this code seems to return(1) when no buffers
>   are available; perhaps ENOBUFS should be the correct return value?
> 

> mikeh       2003/02/23 21:56:37 PST
> 
>   Modified files:
>     usr.sbin/zic         zic.c 
>   Log:
>   Check whether setmode(3) fails and deallocate its return value after
>   calling getmode(3).
>   
>   Approved by: wollman
>   MFC after: 1 week
>   
>   Revision  Changes    Path
>   1.15      +5 -1      src/usr.sbin/zic/zic.c
> 

> des         2003/02/25 07:01:54 PST
> 
>   Modified files:
>     usr.sbin/pkg_install/delete Makefile perform.c 
>   Log:
>   Fix a long-standing bug where if the package being deleted had no
>   post-deinstall script, the variable intended to hold the name of that
>   script would be used uninitialized.  In some cases, fexists() would
>   succeed, causing pkg_delete to try to chmod +x it, then execute it,
>   resulting in bizarre error messages such as:
>   
>   .//: Permission denied
>   
>   This bug would normally only occur when multiple packages were
>   specified on the command line; otherwise post_script would be located
>   in a previously unused part of the stack, and implicitly (but quite
>   accidentally) initialized to all-zeros.
>   
>   MFC after:      3 days
>   
>   Revision  Changes    Path
>   1.18      +1 -1      src/usr.sbin/pkg_install/delete/Makefile
>   1.38      +11 -13    src/usr.sbin/pkg_install/delete/perform.c
> 

> simokawa    2003/02/27 04:51:24 PST
> 
>   Modified files:
>     sys/dev/firewire     firewire.c firewirereg.h fwdev.c fwmem.c 
>                          sbp.c 
>   Log:
>   MFp4(simokawa_sbp branch)
>   
>   Improve SBP device probeing:
>   - Wait 2 sec before issuing LOGIN ORB expecting the reconnection
>           hold timer expires.
>   - Serialize management ORB and scanning LUN by CAM on each target.
>           This should fix the problem for devices which have multiple LUNs.
>           Test device is donated by: Jaye Mathisen <mrcpu@internetcds.com>
>   - Freeze SIM queue for 2 sec after BUS RESET.
>   - Retry with LOGIN rather than RECONNECT after LOGIN is not completed for
>           BUS RESET.
>   - Use appropriate CAM status for BUS RESET and DEVICE RESET.
>   - Let CAM to scan targets after BUS REST.
>   - Implement CAM scan target function.
>   - Keep our own devq freeze count.
>   - Let CAM to know that SBP does tagged queuing.
>   
>   These should be merged to RELENG_4 before 4.8-RELEASE.
>   
>   Revision  Changes    Path
>   1.43      +4 -8      src/sys/dev/firewire/firewire.c
>   1.21      +6 -0      src/sys/dev/firewire/firewirereg.h
>   1.21      +8 -0      src/sys/dev/firewire/fwdev.c
>   1.15      +4 -0      src/sys/dev/firewire/fwmem.c
>   1.35      +288 -100  src/sys/dev/firewire/sbp.c
> 

> sobomax     2003/02/27 12:43:52 PST
> 
>   Modified files:
>     usr.sbin/sysinstall  index.c 
>   Log:
>   Increase size of the static buffer used to hold runtime dependency list
>   read from CD from 2k to 16k, because in the modern world of meta-packages
>   (Gnome et al) the length of this list could easily owerflow limit causing
>   strange things to happen, ranging from installation failure due to list
>   truncation to complete stack trashing (there is very vague bounds checking).
>   For example, x11/gnome2-fifth-toe runtime dependencies list is 2,418 bytes
>   long.
>   
>   Due to obvious reasons, this is an immediate MFC candidate.
>   
>   Sponsored by:   Porta Software Ltd
>   MFC after:      1 day
>   
>   Revision  Changes    Path
>   1.100     +4 -4      src/usr.sbin/sysinstall/index.c
> 


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Aloha!

Due to my less than perfect memory I can't pinpoint exactly when, but
after upgrading my 4.x-system it seems like the sendmail_enable="NO" in
/etc/rc.conf is being ignored and sendmail gets started anyway.

AFAIK, this happened after upgrading from 4.6 to 4.7. I'm currently at
4.8-RC and the same behaviour is present.

Checking processes after boot I see:

root     106  0,0  0,3  3196 1788  ??  Ss   11:04pm   0:00,97 sendmail:
accepting connections (sendmail)
smmsp    109  0,0  0,3  3076 1404  ??  Is   11:04pm   0:00,01 sendmail:
Queue runner@00:30:00 for /var/spool/clientmqueue (sendmail)

What have I missed? Why is the setting in rc.conf being ignored.
Where/what is starting sendmail?

Any pointers and help greatly appreciated.
-- 
Med vänlig hälsning, Cheers!

Joachim Strömbergson
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On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Joachim Str=F6mbergson wrote:

> Aloha!
>
> Due to my less than perfect memory I can't pinpoint exactly when, but
> after upgrading my 4.x-system it seems like the sendmail_enable=3D"NO" in
> /etc/rc.conf is being ignored and sendmail gets started anyway.
>
> AFAIK, this happened after upgrading from 4.6 to 4.7. I'm currently at
> 4.8-RC and the same behaviour is present.
>
> Checking processes after boot I see:
>
> root     106  0,0  0,3  3196 1788  ??  Ss   11:04pm   0:00,97 sendmail:
> accepting connections (sendmail)
> smmsp    109  0,0  0,3  3076 1404  ??  Is   11:04pm   0:00,01 sendmail:
> Queue runner@00:30:00 for /var/spool/clientmqueue (sendmail)
>
> What have I missed? Why is the setting in rc.conf being ignored.
> Where/what is starting sendmail?
>
> Any pointers and help greatly appreciated.
> --
> Med v=E4nlig h=E4lsning, Cheers!
>
> Joachim Str=F6mbergson
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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> Joachim Str=F6mbergson - ASIC designer, nice to *cute* animals.
>     snail:                  phone:                     mail & web:
> S=E4ven=E4sgatan 5A        +46 31 - 27 98 47          watchman@ludd.luth.=
se
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Have you checked /usr/src/UPDATING? :-)

20020404:
        The sendmail startup code in /etc/rc has been changed to deal
        with a non-set-user-ID sendmail binary.  Setting the rc.conf
        variable sendmail_enable to "NO" no longer prevents any sendmail
        daemons from starting.  Instead, set sendmail_enable to "NONE"
        to prevent any MTA from being started at boot.


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Hello,
    
On Tue, 2003-03-04 at 07:06, Joachim Strömbergson wrote:
> Aloha!
> 
> Due to my less than perfect memory I can't pinpoint exactly when, but
> after upgrading my 4.x-system it seems like the sendmail_enable="NO" in
> /etc/rc.conf is being ignored and sendmail gets started anyway.
> 
> AFAIK, this happened after upgrading from 4.6 to 4.7. I'm currently at
> 4.8-RC and the same behaviour is present.
> 
> Checking processes after boot I see:
> 
> root     106  0,0  0,3  3196 1788  ??  Ss   11:04pm   0:00,97 sendmail:
> accepting connections (sendmail)
> smmsp    109  0,0  0,3  3076 1404  ??  Is   11:04pm   0:00,01 sendmail:
> Queue runner@00:30:00 for /var/spool/clientmqueue (sendmail)
> 
> What have I missed? Why is the setting in rc.conf being ignored.
> Where/what is starting sendmail?

To completely disable sendmail on startup, use:

sendmail_enable="NONE"

Regards,

Stacey

> 
> Any pointers and help greatly appreciated.
-- 
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> With all the problems supposedly fixed in 4.3 (especially the
> ATI drivers (*)), it might be worth it to delay 4.8 a few days just
> to include this port.
> 
> (*) I can confirm that 4.3 works with my ATI Radeon 7500 whereas
>     it doesn't with 4.2.1.

It is strange, that your ATI card is not working with 4.2.1
I have the same card and with the latest port of XFree it is working
fine, even DRI is perfect.

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Hi,

After upgrading my 4.7-RELEASE to 4-STABLE of Feb. 24, I'm experiencing
intermittent IPv6 problems. Specifically, once every few days, I lose IPv6
connectivity and I have to manually reload my IPFilter firewall rules with
"ipf -6 -f /etc/ipf6.rules". IPv4 traffic is not affected. Has anyone seen
this before?

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On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 06:18:19PM +0300, Sergey A. Osokin wrote:
>On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 04:13:06PM +0100, Igor Pokrovsky wrote:
>> It seems to me that yes. But can I get whole repository with CTM,
>> as I did with cvsup?
>
>Just look at ctm(1) and
>http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ctm.html

In the past, the CTM package 'cvs-cur' would fetch the entire CVS
repository.  This has stopped since the repository split at the end
of February and I haven't seen any announcement regarding its future.

Peter

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Hi,

>>>>> On Tue, 4 Mar 2003 09:52:44 +0300
>>>>> "Igor B. Bykhalo" <goshik@binep.ac.ru> said:

> ume         2003/02/03 09:43:20 PST
> 
>   Modified files:
>     sys/alpha/linux      linux.h 
>     sys/compat/linux     linux_socket.c 
>     sys/i386/linux       linux.h 
>     sys/modules/linux    Makefile 
>   Log:
>   Add IPv6 support for Linuxlator.
>   
>   Reviewed by:    dwmalone
>   MFC after:      10 days

I thought to do MFC it at the time, and added `MFC after:'.  But,
since there are some issue reminds, I stopped doing MFC it at the
moment.

Sincerely,

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Hi,

I think this has been going on for a couple of months; unfortunately, I
cannot remember exactly when it started :(  Several machines, which have
always been updated synchronously at intervals of a couple of weeks or
so, have been experiencing panics every few days with recent 4.6-STABLE,
4.7-STABLE, and 4.8-PRERELEASE kernel+world.

Attached is the kernel config and a gdb session of the most recent
crashdump.  Maybe the most interesting part is at the end of the gdb
session: is there a normal reason why a TAILQ structure would have a
null start pointer, and an end pointer pointing back to itself?

G'luck,
Peter

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#
# PAN-GB-HQ - kernel configuration for the Gabrovo Office 1 FreeBSD/i386 gw
#
# $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC,v 1.246.2.35 2001/09/27 17:43:06 alfred Exp $

machine		i386
cpu		I686_CPU
ident		PAN-GB-HQ
maxusers	32

makeoptions	DEBUG="-ggdb -g3"	#Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols

options		INCLUDE_CONFIG_FILE

options 	INET			#InterNETworking
options 	INET6			#IPv6 communications protocols
options		IPSEC
options		IPSEC_ESP
options		IPSEC_DEBUG

options		IPFIREWALL
options		IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE
options		IPFIREWALL_FORWARD
options		IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100
options		IPV6FIREWALL
options		IPV6FIREWALL_VERBOSE
options		IPV6FIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100
options		IPDIVERT
options		DUMMYNET

options		RANDOM_IP_ID
options		ACCEPT_FILTER_DATA
options		ACCEPT_FILTER_HTTP
options		TCP_DROP_SYNFIN
options		ICMP_BANDLIM

options 	FFS			#Berkeley Fast Filesystem
options 	FFS_ROOT		#FFS usable as root device [keep this!]
options 	SOFTUPDATES		#Enable FFS soft updates support
options		UFS_DIRHASH
options 	PROCFS			#Process filesystem
options		SUIDDIR

options 	COMPAT_43		#Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!]
options 	SCSI_DELAY=15000	#Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI
options 	KTRACE			#ktrace(1) support

options 	SYSVSHM			#SYSV-style shared memory
options		SHMMNI=2048
options		SHMSEG=128

options 	SYSVMSG			#SYSV-style message queues
options		MSGMNI=2048
options		MSGTQL=2048

options 	SYSVSEM			#SYSV-style semaphores
options		SEMMNI=128
options		SEMMNS=2048
options		SEMMNU=1024
options		SEMUME=128

options 	P1003_1B		#Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions
options 	_KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING
options		ICMP_BANDLIM		#Rate limit bad replies

device		isa
device		pci

# Floppy drives
device		fdc0	at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2
device		fd0	at fdc0 drive 0

# ATA and ATAPI devices
device		ata0	at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14
device		ata1	at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15
device		ata
device		atadisk			# ATA disk drives
device		atapicd			# ATAPI CDROM drives
options 	ATA_STATIC_ID		#Static device numbering

# atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse
device		atkbdc0	at isa? port IO_KBD
device		atkbd0	at atkbdc? irq 1
device		psm0	at atkbdc? irq 12

device		vga0	at isa?

# splash screen/screen saver
pseudo-device	splash

# syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console
device		sc0	at isa? flags 0x100
options		SC_MOUSE_CHAR=0x3

# Floating point support - do not disable.
device		npx0	at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13

# Serial (COM) ports
device		sio0	at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4
device		sio1	at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3
#device		sio2	at isa? disable port IO_COM3 irq 5
#device		sio3	at isa? disable port IO_COM4 irq 9

# PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code.
# NOTE: Be sure to keep the 'device miibus' line in order to use these NICs!
device		miibus		# MII bus support
device		xl		# 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'')

# Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocate.
pseudo-device	loop		# Network loopback
pseudo-device	ether		# Ethernet support
pseudo-device	tun		# Packet tunnel.
pseudo-device	pty		# Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc)
pseudo-device	gif		# IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling
pseudo-device	snp	3

# The `bpf' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter.
# Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this!
pseudo-device	bpf		#Berkeley packet filter

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Script started on Tue Mar  4 11:50:48 2003
Setting up interactive shell params..
[roam@flat:p2 ~]$ cd /var/crash
[roam@flat:p2 /var/crash]$ sudo gdb -k /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/PAN-GB-HQ/kerne=
l.debug vmcore.2
Password:
GNU gdb 4.18 (FreeBSD)
Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are
welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain condition=
s.
Type "show copying" to see the conditions.
There is absolutely no warranty for GDB.  Type "show warranty" for details.
This GDB was configured as "i386-unknown-freebsd"...Deprecated bfd_read cal=
led at /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/gdb/../../../../contrib/gdb/gdb/dbxrea=
d.c line 2627 in elfstab_build_psymtabs
Deprecated bfd_read called at /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/gdb/../../../..=
/contrib/gdb/gdb/dbxread.c line 933 in fill_symbuf

IdlePTD at phsyical address 0x0033b000
initial pcb at physical address 0x002a54e0
panicstr: page fault
panic messages:
---
Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
fault virtual address	=3D 0x8
fault code		=3D supervisor read, page not present
instruction pointer	=3D 0x8:0xc01b2768
stack pointer	        =3D 0x10:0xc0284e3c
frame pointer	        =3D 0x10:0xc0284e48
code segment		=3D base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b
			=3D DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
processor eflags	=3D interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL =3D 0
current process		=3D Idle
interrupt mask		=3D=20
trap number		=3D 12
panic: page fault

syncing disks...=20

Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
fault virtual address	=3D 0x30
fault code		=3D supervisor read, page not present
instruction pointer	=3D 0x8:0xc01f9ab4
stack pointer	        =3D 0x10:0xc0284c5c
frame pointer	        =3D 0x10:0xc0284c64
code segment		=3D base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b
			=3D DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
processor eflags	=3D interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL =3D 0
current process		=3D Idle
interrupt mask		=3D bio=20
trap number		=3D 12
panic: page fault
Uptime: 6d11h8m49s

dumping to dev #ad/0x20001, offset 524456
dump ata0: resetting devices .. done
255 254 253 252 251 250 249 248 247 246 245 244 243 242 241 240 239 238 237=
 236 235 234 233 232 231 230 229 228 227 226 225 224 223 222 221 220 219 21=
8 217 216 215 214 213 212 211 210 209 208 207 206 205 204 203 202 201 200 1=
99 198 197 196 195 194 193 192 191 190 189 188 187 186 185 184 183 182 181 =
180 179 178 177 176 175 174 173 172 171 170 169 168 167 166 165 164 163 162=
 161 160 159 158 157 156 155 154 153 152 151 150 149 148 147 146 145 144 14=
3 142 141 140 139 138 137 136 135 134 133 132 131 130 129 128 127 126 125 1=
24 123 122 121 120 119 118 117 116 115 114 113 112 111 110 109 108 107 106 =
105 104 103 102 101 100 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 89 88 87 86 85 84 83 =
82 81 80 79 78 77 76 75 74 73 72 71 70 69 68 67 66 65 64 63 62 61 60 59 58 =
57 56 55 54 53 52 51 50 49 48 47 46 45 44 43 42 41 40 39 38 37 36 35 34 33 =
32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 =
6 5 4 3 2 1 0=20
---
#0  dumpsys () at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:487
487		if (dumping++) {
(kgdb) bt
#0  dumpsys () at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:487
#1  0xc0151020 in boot (howto=3D260) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:3=
16
#2  0xc0151454 in poweroff_wait (junk=3D0xc027d7ac, howto=3D-1071131953)
    at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:595
#3  0xc023d9e7 in trap_fatal (frame=3D0xc0284c1c, eva=3D48)
    at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:974
#4  0xc023d6a1 in trap_pfault (frame=3D0xc0284c1c, usermode=3D0, eva=3D48)
    at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:867
#5  0xc023d277 in trap (frame=3D{tf_fs =3D 16, tf_es =3D 16, tf_ds =3D -107=
2431088,=20
      tf_edi =3D 0, tf_esi =3D 2, tf_ebp =3D -1071100828, tf_isp =3D -10711=
00856,=20
      tf_ebx =3D -1071017220, tf_edx =3D 6864960, tf_ecx =3D -1070874464,=
=20
      tf_eax =3D 0, tf_trapno =3D 12, tf_err =3D 0, tf_eip =3D -1071670604,=
 tf_cs =3D 8,=20
      tf_eflags =3D 66050, tf_esp =3D -1071100708, tf_ss =3D 2})
    at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:466
#6  0xc01f9ab4 in acquire_lock (lk=3D0xc02992fc)
    at /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c:266
#7  0xc01fe202 in softdep_fsync_mountdev (vp=3D0xcbb2eb40)
    at /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c:4024
#8  0xc0202512 in ffs_fsync (ap=3D0xc0284cdc)
    at /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_vnops.c:134
#9  0xc0201150 in ffs_sync (mp=3D0xc0ef0000, waitfor=3D2, cred=3D0xc0a3b600=
,=20
    p=3D0xc02bc0a0) at vnode_if.h:558
#10 0xc0182107 in sync (p=3D0xc02bc0a0, uap=3D0x0)
    at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_syscalls.c:576
#11 0xc0150ddb in boot (howto=3D256) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:2=
35
#12 0xc0151454 in poweroff_wait (junk=3D0xc027d7ac, howto=3D-1071131953)
    at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:595
#13 0xc023d9e7 in trap_fatal (frame=3D0xc0284dfc, eva=3D8)
    at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:974
---Type <return> to continue, or q <return> to quit---
#14 0xc023d6a1 in trap_pfault (frame=3D0xc0284dfc, usermode=3D0, eva=3D8)
    at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:867
#15 0xc023d277 in trap (frame=3D{tf_fs =3D 6422544, tf_es =3D -1072300016,=
=20
      tf_ds =3D -1071120368, tf_edi =3D 6422528, tf_esi =3D -1058083972,=20
      tf_ebp =3D -1071100344, tf_isp =3D -1071100376, tf_ebx =3D -880342144=
,=20
      tf_edx =3D 0, tf_ecx =3D 0, tf_eax =3D -1, tf_trapno =3D 12, tf_err =
=3D 0,=20
      tf_eip =3D -1071962264, tf_cs =3D 8, tf_eflags =3D 66182, tf_esp =3D =
-880342144,=20
      tf_ss =3D -1054661004}) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:466
#16 0xc01b2768 in syncache_insert (sc=3D0xcb870b80, sch=3D0xc0eeeb7c)
    at /usr/src/sys/netinet/tcp_syncache.c:289
#17 0xc01b3639 in syncache_add (inc=3D0xc0284ee8, to=3D0xc0284f54, th=3D0xc=
0ab0024,=20
    sop=3D0xc0284ee4, m=3D0xc0aadc00) at /usr/src/sys/netinet/tcp_syncache.=
c:1021
#18 0xc01adcc3 in tcp_input (m=3D0xc0aadc00, off0=3D20, proto=3D6)
    at /usr/src/sys/netinet/tcp_input.c:826
#19 0xc01a8cba in ip_input (m=3D0xc0aadc00)
    at /usr/src/sys/netinet/ip_input.c:910
#20 0xc01a8d37 in ipintr () at /usr/src/sys/netinet/ip_input.c:934
#21 0xc02330b9 in swi_net_next ()
(kgdb) bt full
#0  dumpsys () at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:487
	error =3D 0
#1  0xc0151020 in boot (howto=3D260) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:3=
16
	howto =3D 260
#2  0xc0151454 in poweroff_wait (junk=3D0xc027d7ac, howto=3D-1071131953)
    at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:595
	fmt =3D 0xc027d7ac "%s"
	bootopt =3D 260
	buf =3D "page fault", '\000' <repeats 245 times>
#3  0xc023d9e7 in trap_fatal (frame=3D0xc0284c1c, eva=3D48)
    at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:974
	frame =3D (struct trapframe *) 0x104
	eva =3D 0
	code =3D -1071130708
	type =3D 12
	ss =3D -1071130708
	esp =3D 0
	softseg =3D {ssd_base =3D 0, ssd_limit =3D 1048575, ssd_type =3D 27,=20
  ssd_dpl =3D 0, ssd_p =3D 1, ssd_xx =3D 4, ssd_xx1 =3D 2, ssd_def32 =3D 1,=
 ssd_gran =3D 1}
#4  0xc023d6a1 in trap_pfault (frame=3D0xc0284c1c, usermode=3D0, eva=3D48)
    at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:867
	va =3D 0
	vm =3D (struct vmspace *) 0x0
	map =3D 0xc
	rv =3D 0
	ftype =3D 192 '=C0'
	p =3D (struct proc *) 0x0
#5  0xc023d277 in trap (frame=3D{tf_fs =3D 16, tf_es =3D 16, tf_ds =3D -107=
2431088,=20
      tf_edi =3D 0, tf_esi =3D 2, tf_ebp =3D -1071100828, tf_isp =3D -10711=
00856,=20
---Type <return> to continue, or q <return> to quit---
      tf_ebx =3D -1071017220, tf_edx =3D 6864960, tf_ecx =3D -1070874464,=
=20
      tf_eax =3D 0, tf_trapno =3D 12, tf_err =3D 0, tf_eip =3D -1071670604,=
 tf_cs =3D 8,=20
      tf_eflags =3D 66050, tf_esp =3D -1071100708, tf_ss =3D 2})
    at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:466
	p =3D (struct proc *) 0x0
	sticks =3D 13847272392516173825
	i =3D 0
	ucode =3D 0
	type =3D 12
	code =3D 0
	eva =3D 48
#6  0xc01f9ab4 in acquire_lock (lk=3D0xc02992fc)
    at /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c:266
	lk =3D (struct lockit *) 0x6ac040
	holder =3D 2
#7  0xc01fe202 in softdep_fsync_mountdev (vp=3D0xcbb2eb40)
    at /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c:4024
	bp =3D (struct buf *) 0xc0284cdc
	nbp =3D (struct buf *) 0xc0284cb4
	wk =3D (struct worklist *) 0x0
#8  0xc0202512 in ffs_fsync (ap=3D0xc0284cdc)
    at /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_vnops.c:134
	vp =3D (struct vnode *) 0xcbb2eb40
	bp =3D (struct buf *) 0xc0284cdc
	nbp =3D (struct buf *) 0xc0284cf0
	s =3D -1070874464
	error =3D 0
	wait =3D 0
	passes =3D -877466816
---Type <return> to continue, or q <return> to quit---
	skipmeta =3D -1071097632
	lbn =3D 2147483647
#9  0xc0201150 in ffs_sync (mp=3D0xc0ef0000, waitfor=3D2, cred=3D0xc0a3b600=
,=20
    p=3D0xc02bc0a0) at vnode_if.h:558
	a =3D {a_desc =3D 0xc0285620, a_vp =3D 0xcbb2eb40, a_cred =3D 0xc0a3b600,=
=20
  a_waitfor =3D 2, a_p =3D 0xc02bc0a0}
	vp =3D (struct vnode *) 0x0
	cred =3D (struct ucred *) 0xc0a3b600
	waitfor =3D 2
	p =3D (struct proc *) 0xc02bc0a0
	waitfor =3D 2
	nvp =3D (struct vnode *) 0x0
	vp =3D (struct vnode *) 0xc0284cdc
	ip =3D (struct inode *) 0x0
	ump =3D (struct ufsmount *) 0xc0f04e00
	fs =3D (struct fs *) 0xc0f03000
	error =3D 0
	allerror =3D 0
#10 0xc0182107 in sync (p=3D0xc02bc0a0, uap=3D0x0)
    at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_syscalls.c:576
	p =3D (struct proc *) 0xc02bc0a0
	mp =3D (struct mount *) 0xc0ef0000
	nmp =3D (struct mount *) 0x0
	asyncflag =3D 0
#11 0xc0150ddb in boot (howto=3D256) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:2=
35
	bp =3D (struct buf *) 0x0
	iter =3D 5
	nbusy =3D -1071130708
	pbusy =3D -1071100576
---Type <return> to continue, or q <return> to quit---
	howto =3D 256
#12 0xc0151454 in poweroff_wait (junk=3D0xc027d7ac, howto=3D-1071131953)
    at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:595
	fmt =3D 0xc027d7ac "%s"
	bootopt =3D 256
	buf =3D "page fault", '\000' <repeats 245 times>
#13 0xc023d9e7 in trap_fatal (frame=3D0xc0284dfc, eva=3D8)
    at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:974
	frame =3D (struct trapframe *) 0x100
	eva =3D 0
	code =3D -1071130708
	type =3D 12
	ss =3D -1071130708
	esp =3D 0
	softseg =3D {ssd_base =3D 0, ssd_limit =3D 1048575, ssd_type =3D 27,=20
  ssd_dpl =3D 0, ssd_p =3D 1, ssd_xx =3D 0, ssd_xx1 =3D 0, ssd_def32 =3D 1,=
 ssd_gran =3D 1}
#14 0xc023d6a1 in trap_pfault (frame=3D0xc0284dfc, usermode=3D0, eva=3D8)
    at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:867
	va =3D 0
	vm =3D (struct vmspace *) 0x0
	map =3D 0xc
	rv =3D 0
	ftype =3D 192 '=C0'
	p =3D (struct proc *) 0x0
#15 0xc023d277 in trap (frame=3D{tf_fs =3D 6422544, tf_es =3D -1072300016,=
=20
      tf_ds =3D -1071120368, tf_edi =3D 6422528, tf_esi =3D -1058083972,=20
      tf_ebp =3D -1071100344, tf_isp =3D -1071100376, tf_ebx =3D -880342144=
,=20
      tf_edx =3D 0, tf_ecx =3D 0, tf_eax =3D -1, tf_trapno =3D 12, tf_err =
=3D 0,=20
      tf_eip =3D -1071962264, tf_cs =3D 8, tf_eflags =3D 66182, tf_esp =3D =
-880342144,=20
---Type <return> to continue, or q <return> to quit---
      tf_ss =3D -1054661004}) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:466
	p =3D (struct proc *) 0x0
	sticks =3D 22531436045668236
	i =3D 0
	ucode =3D 0
	type =3D 12
	code =3D 0
	eva =3D 8
#16 0xc01b2768 in syncache_insert (sc=3D0xcb870b80, sch=3D0xc0eeeb7c)
    at /usr/src/sys/netinet/tcp_syncache.c:289
	sc =3D (struct syncache *) 0x620000
	sch =3D (struct syncache_head *) 0xc0eeeb7c
	sc2 =3D (struct syncache *) 0x0
	s =3D 6422528
	i =3D 0
#17 0xc01b3639 in syncache_add (inc=3D0xc0284ee8, to=3D0xc0284f54, th=3D0xc=
0ab0024,=20
    sop=3D0xc0284ee4, m=3D0xc0aadc00) at /usr/src/sys/netinet/tcp_syncache.=
c:1021
	inc =3D (struct in_conninfo *) 0xc1232674
	th =3D (struct tcphdr *) 0x0
	tp =3D (struct tcpcb *) 0xcb813d40
	so =3D (struct socket *) 0xcb785980
	sc =3D (struct syncache *) 0xcb870b80
	sch =3D (struct syncache_head *) 0xc0eeeb7c
	ipopts =3D (struct mbuf *) 0x0
	taop =3D (struct rmxp_tao *) 0xc1232674
	i =3D 0
	s =3D 4
#18 0xc01adcc3 in tcp_input (m=3D0xc0aadc00, off0=3D20, proto=3D6)
    at /usr/src/sys/netinet/tcp_input.c:826
---Type <return> to continue, or q <return> to quit---
	inc =3D {inc_flags =3D 0 '\000', inc_len =3D 101 'e', inc_pad =3D 49178,=
=20
  inc_ie =3D {ie_fport =3D 14348, ie_lport =3D 20480, ie_dependfaddr =3D {
      ie46_foreign =3D {ia46_pad32 =3D {3237187428, 131072, 3232422912},=20
        ia46_addr4 =3D {s_addr =3D 4196968640}}, ie6_foreign =3D {__u6_addr=
 =3D {
          __u6_addr8 =3D "d\217=F3=C0\000\000\002\000\000=DC=AA=C0=C0=A8(=
=FA", __u6_addr16 =3D {
            36708, 49395, 0, 2, 56320, 49322, 43200, 64040}, __u6_addr32 =
=3D {
            3237187428, 131072, 3232422912, 4196968640}}}}, ie_dependladdr =
=3D {
      ie46_local =3D {ia46_pad32 =3D {3232422912, 3238793776, 0}, ia46_addr=
4 =3D {
          s_addr =3D 2349844673}}, ie6_local =3D {__u6_addr =3D {
          __u6_addr8 =3D "\000=DC=AA=C00\022\f=C1\000\000\000\000=C1=C8\017=
\214",=20
          __u6_addr16 =3D {56320, 49322, 4656, 49420, 0, 0, 51393, 35855},=
=20
          __u6_addr32 =3D {3232422912, 3238793776, 0, 2349844673}}}}},=20
  inc_dependroute =3D {inc4_route =3D {ro_rt =3D 0x0, ro_dst =3D {sa_len =
=3D 0 '\000',=20
        sa_family =3D 80 'P',=20
        sa_data =3D "\f8\000\000\000@\024\000\000\000\000\200=D4=C0"}},=20
    inc6_route =3D {ro_rt =3D 0x0, ro_dst =3D {sin6_len =3D 0 '\000',=20
        sin6_family =3D 80 'P', sin6_port =3D 14348, sin6_flowinfo =3D 1073=
741824,=20
        sin6_addr =3D {__u6_addr =3D {
            __u6_addr8 =3D "\024\000\000\000\000\200=D4=C0\020\000=AB=C0=C8=
O(=C0",=20
            __u6_addr16 =3D {20, 0, 32768, 49364, 16, 49323, 20424, 49192},=
=20
            __u6_addr32 =3D {20, 3235151872, 3232432144, 3223867336}}},=20
        sin6_scope_id =3D 3223867340}}}}
	th =3D (struct tcphdr *) 0xc0ab0024
	ip =3D (struct ip *) 0xc0ab0010
	ipov =3D (struct ipovly *) 0xcb813c80
	inp =3D (struct inpcb *) 0xcb813c80
	optp =3D (u_char *) 0xc0ab0038 "\002\004\005=B4\001\001\004\002"
	optlen =3D 8
	len =3D -1071100076
---Type <return> to continue, or q <return> to quit---
	tlen =3D 0
	off =3D -1071100076
	drop_hdrlen =3D 48
	tp =3D (struct tcpcb *) 0xcb813d40
	thflags =3D 2
	so =3D (struct socket *) 0xcb785980
	todrop =3D -1071100076
	acked =3D -880722816
	ourfinisacked =3D -1071100076
	needoutput =3D 0
	tiwin =3D 64240
	to =3D {to_flags =3D 16, to_tsval =3D 0, to_tsecr =3D 0, to_cc =3D 0,=20
  to_ccecho =3D 0, to_mss =3D 1460, to_requested_s_scale =3D 0 '\000',=20
  to_pad =3D 0 '\000'}
	taop =3D (struct rmxp_tao *) 0xc0284f54
	tao_noncached =3D {tao_cc =3D 1, tao_ccsent =3D 3235151872, tao_mssopt =3D=
 2}
	next_hop =3D (struct sockaddr_in *) 0xc0f3807c
	rstreason =3D -1071100076
	ip6 =3D (struct ip6_hdr *) 0x0
	isipv6 =3D 0
#19 0xc01a8cba in ip_input (m=3D0xc0aadc00)
    at /usr/src/sys/netinet/ip_input.c:910
	tag =3D {mh_next =3D 0xc0aadc00, mh_nextpkt =3D 0xc0d482f0,=20
  mh_data =3D 0xc0f3807c "\020\0028\f=C0=A8(=FE", mh_len =3D -1071717142, m=
h_type =3D 13,=20
  mh_flags =3D 18}
	m =3D (struct mbuf *) 0xc0aadc00
	ip =3D (struct ip *) 0xc0ab0010
	fp =3D (struct ipq *) 0xc0284fb8
	ia =3D (struct in_ifaddr *) 0xc0f35f00
---Type <return> to continue, or q <return> to quit---
	ifa =3D (struct ifaddr *) 0x0
	i =3D 0
	hlen =3D 20
	checkif =3D 0
	sum =3D 0
	pkt_dst =3D {s_addr =3D 4264077504}
	divert_info =3D 0
	args =3D {m =3D 0xc0aadc00, oif =3D 0x0, next_hop =3D 0xc0f3807c, rule =3D=
 0x0,=20
  eh =3D 0x0, ro =3D 0xc014f22a, dst =3D 0xc02a50b0, flags =3D -1070877576,=
 f_id =3D {
    dst_ip =3D 3251113868, src_ip =3D 3232246010, dst_port =3D 80, src_port=
 =3D 3128,=20
    proto =3D 6 '\006', flags =3D 2 '\002'}, divert_rule =3D 0, retval =3D =
3223998624}
#20 0xc01a8d37 in ipintr () at /usr/src/sys/netinet/ip_input.c:934
	s =3D 0
	m =3D (struct mbuf *) 0xc0aadc00
#21 0xc02330b9 in swi_net_next ()
No symbol table info available.
(kgdb) fr 16
#16 0xc01b2768 in syncache_insert (sc=3D0xcb870b80, sch=3D0xc0eeeb7c)
    at /usr/src/sys/netinet/tcp_syncache.c:289
289			sc2 =3D TAILQ_FIRST(&sch->sch_bucket);
(kgdb) print sch
$1 =3D (struct syncache_head *) 0xc0eeeb7c
(kgdb) print *sch
$2 =3D {sch_bucket =3D {tqh_first =3D 0x0, tqh_last =3D 0xc0eeeb7c},=20
  sch_length =3D 4294967295}
(kgdb) q
[roam@flat:p2 /var/crash]$ exit
exit

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Probably, there are several Radeon 7500 chips with different IDs, and=20
some recent ones are not being recognized by XFree86 4.2.1.

BTW, I think that 4.8-RELEASE should include XFree86 4.3, which=20
supports additional harware (ATI Radeon 9x00 models, for example), even=20=

if that implies a delay of one or two weeks.

El martes, 4 marz, 2003, a las 09:38 Europe/Madrid, Igor Pokrovsky=20
escribi=F3:
>> With all the problems supposedly fixed in 4.3 (especially the
>> ATI drivers (*)), it might be worth it to delay 4.8 a few days just
>> to include this port.
>>
>> (*) I can confirm that 4.3 works with my ATI Radeon 7500 whereas
>>     it doesn't with 4.2.1.
>
> It is strange, that your ATI card is not working with 4.2.1
> I have the same card and with the latest port of XFree it is working
> fine, even DRI is perfect.

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Daniel Eischen wrote:
> 
> 
> With all the problems supposedly fixed in 4.3 (especially the
> ATI drivers (*)), it might be worth it to delay 4.8 a few days just
> to include this port.
> 
> (*) I can confirm that 4.3 works with my ATI Radeon 7500 whereas
>     it doesn't with 4.2.1.
> 

And problems with NVIDIA GeForce4 420 Go was solved, too. Now I'm using 
XFree-4.3.0 (binaries for 4.x from xfree86.org) on Toshiba Satellite 
1415-S173 running 5.0-RELEASE. It's working fine but I had problems with 
mozilla.

Paulo.


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Would the FreeBSD team consider the benefits of integrating Xfree86 v4.3.x
for v4.8?!? The upgrade that was done on the video drivers alone was worth
it for me.

-Ken

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Probably, there are several Radeon 7500 chips with different IDs, and
some recent ones are not being recognized by XFree86 4.2.1.

BTW, I think that 4.8-RELEASE should include XFree86 4.3, which
supports additional harware (ATI Radeon 9x00 models, for example), even
if that implies a delay of one or two weeks.

El martes, 4 marz, 2003, a las 09:38 Europe/Madrid, Igor Pokrovsky
escribió:
>> With all the problems supposedly fixed in 4.3 (especially the
>> ATI drivers (*)), it might be worth it to delay 4.8 a few days just
>> to include this port.
>>
>> (*) I can confirm that 4.3 works with my ATI Radeon 7500 whereas
>>     it doesn't with 4.2.1.
>
> It is strange, that your ATI card is not working with 4.2.1
> I have the same card and with the latest port of XFree it is working
> fine, even DRI is perfect.

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On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 02:10:39PM +0200, Vikash Badal - PCS wrote:
> Greetings,
>=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Peter Pentchev [mailto:roam@ringlet.net]
> > Sent: 04 March 2003 01:59
> > To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG
> > Subject: 4.8-PRE (and earlier) crash - syncookies?
> >=20
> >=20
> > Hi,
> >=20
> > I think this has been going on for a couple of months;=20
> > unfortunately, I
> > cannot remember exactly when it started :(  Several machines,=20
> > which have
> > always been updated synchronously at intervals of a couple of weeks or
> > so, have been experiencing panics every few days with recent=20
> > 4.6-STABLE,
> > 4.7-STABLE, and 4.8-PRERELEASE kernel+world.
> >=20
> > Attached is the kernel config and a gdb session of the most recent
> > crashdump.  Maybe the most interesting part is at the end of the gdb
> > session: is there a normal reason why a TAILQ structure would have a
> > null start pointer, and an end pointer pointing back to itself?
> >=20
> > G'luck,
> > Peter
> >=20
>=20
> Have you checked your RAM or tried different RAM modules,
>=20
> >Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
> >fault code		=3D supervisor read, page not present
>=20
> I had a problem recently with my 4.7-STABLE server with trap 12
> and it turned out to be the RAM that was shot!

I do not really think this is a case of faulty RAM; as I mentioned
above, this happens on several machines, with always the same faults
with the same backtrace in the same kernel locations.

G'luck,
Peter

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Hi all

Does anyone know if XFree86 4.3 going to be in the ports soon? like i 
mean in the next day or two because i would really like to be there :), 
only coz i have a ATI Radeon 9700 Pro and i would love to use it in 
freebsd, so i can get rid of this horrible windows.

Thanks


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Peter Pentchev wrote:
*snip*
>>>Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
>>>fault code		= supervisor read, page not present
> 
> I do not really think this is a case of faulty RAM; as I mentioned
> above, this happens on several machines, with always the same faults
> with the same backtrace in the same kernel locations.

I also have noticed this on a number of machines my company has 
installed. Unfortunately the problems have not been frequent enough or 
readily repeatable enough to warrant spending time debugging it...

-Antony


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In article <local.mail.freebsd-stable/20030304115918.GA554@straylight.oblivion.bg> you write:
>-=-=-=-=-=-
>-=-=-=-=-=-
>
>Hi,
>
>I think this has been going on for a couple of months; unfortunately, I
>cannot remember exactly when it started :(  Several machines, which have
>always been updated synchronously at intervals of a couple of weeks or
>so, have been experiencing panics every few days with recent 4.6-STABLE,
>4.7-STABLE, and 4.8-PRERELEASE kernel+world.
>
>Attached is the kernel config and a gdb session of the most recent
>crashdump.  Maybe the most interesting part is at the end of the gdb
>session: is there a normal reason why a TAILQ structure would have a
>null start pointer, and an end pointer pointing back to itself?

[ ... ]

>#16 0xc01b2768 in syncache_insert (sc=0xcb870b80, sch=0xc0eeeb7c)
>    at /usr/src/sys/netinet/tcp_syncache.c:289
>289			sc2 = TAILQ_FIRST(&sch->sch_bucket);
>(kgdb) print sch
>$1 = (struct syncache_head *) 0xc0eeeb7c
>(kgdb) print *sch
>$2 = {sch_bucket = {tqh_first = 0x0, tqh_last = 0xc0eeeb7c}, 
>  sch_length = 4294967295}


It looks to me like the tailq is empty (first == null, last == &head),
but the code path to remove an entry was taken because the length
counter indicated it was over the bucket limit.  sch_length == -1.

So my guess is the code dropped a syncache entry twice, and this is 
the resulting mess.  Can you print out the contents of tcp_syncache
and tcpstat?
-- 
Jonathan

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Hi everyone,

I just opened my box from hibernation
(Toshiba Libretto 110ct) to see lots of messages like

ad0s1a: hard error writing fsbn 4880895 of 2340416-2340439 (ad0s1 bn 468
***something** status=51 error=04

(sorry unable to exactly reproduce since I have to copy this from the
screen, they keep coming every few seconds and litter up the screen)

The HD is just freshly installed. What is going on here, is my disk
dying?

Regards
Thomas Stratmann

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From: Peter Pentchev <roam@ringlet.net>
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On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 08:40:09AM -0600, Jonathan Lemon wrote:
> In article <local.mail.freebsd-stable/20030304115918.GA554@straylight.obl=
ivion.bg> you write:
> >-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-
> >-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-
> >
> >Hi,
> >
> >I think this has been going on for a couple of months; unfortunately, I
> >cannot remember exactly when it started :(  Several machines, which have
> >always been updated synchronously at intervals of a couple of weeks or
> >so, have been experiencing panics every few days with recent 4.6-STABLE,
> >4.7-STABLE, and 4.8-PRERELEASE kernel+world.
> >
> >Attached is the kernel config and a gdb session of the most recent
> >crashdump.  Maybe the most interesting part is at the end of the gdb
> >session: is there a normal reason why a TAILQ structure would have a
> >null start pointer, and an end pointer pointing back to itself?
>=20
> [ ... ]
>=20
> >#16 0xc01b2768 in syncache_insert (sc=3D0xcb870b80, sch=3D0xc0eeeb7c)
> >    at /usr/src/sys/netinet/tcp_syncache.c:289
> >289			sc2 =3D TAILQ_FIRST(&sch->sch_bucket);
> >(kgdb) print sch
> >$1 =3D (struct syncache_head *) 0xc0eeeb7c
> >(kgdb) print *sch
> >$2 =3D {sch_bucket =3D {tqh_first =3D 0x0, tqh_last =3D 0xc0eeeb7c},=20
> >  sch_length =3D 4294967295}
>=20
>=20
> It looks to me like the tailq is empty (first =3D=3D null, last =3D=3D &h=
ead),
> but the code path to remove an entry was taken because the length
> counter indicated it was over the bucket limit.  sch_length =3D=3D -1.
>=20
> So my guess is the code dropped a syncache entry twice, and this is=20
> the resulting mess.  Can you print out the contents of tcp_syncache
> and tcpstat?

See attached; I could provide the whole corefile on request, if it will
be helpful.

G'luck,
Peter

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(kgdb) fr 16
#16 0xc01b2768 in syncache_insert (sc=3D0xcb870b80, sch=3D0xc0eeeb7c)
    at /usr/src/sys/netinet/tcp_syncache.c:289
289			sc2 =3D TAILQ_FIRST(&sch->sch_bucket);
(kgdb) print tcp_syncache
$1 =3D {hashbase =3D 0xc0eee000, zone =3D 0xc0d94c80, hashsize =3D 512,=20
  hashmask =3D 511, bucket_limit =3D 30, cache_count =3D 4294967295,=20
  cache_limit =3D 15359, rexmt_limit =3D 3, hash_secret =3D 1416729105,=20
  next_reseed =3D 0, timerq =3D {{tqh_first =3D 0x0, tqh_last =3D 0xc02a874=
8}, {
      tqh_first =3D 0x0, tqh_last =3D 0xc02a8750}, {tqh_first =3D 0x0,=20
      tqh_last =3D 0xc02a8758}, {tqh_first =3D 0x0, tqh_last =3D 0xc02a8760=
}},=20
  tt_timerq =3D {{c_links =3D {sle =3D {sle_next =3D 0xc603a2e8}, tqe =3D {
          tqe_next =3D 0xc603a2e8, tqe_prev =3D 0xc603c620}}, c_time =3D 55=
852000,=20
      c_arg =3D 0x0, c_func =3D 0, c_flags =3D 0}, {c_links =3D {sle =3D {
          sle_next =3D 0x0}, tqe =3D {tqe_next =3D 0x0, tqe_prev =3D 0xc603=
e200}},=20
      c_time =3D 55658332, c_arg =3D 0x1, c_func =3D 0, c_flags =3D 0}, {c_=
links =3D {
        sle =3D {sle_next =3D 0xc603a2e8}, tqe =3D {tqe_next =3D 0xc603a2e8=
,=20
          tqe_prev =3D 0xc603c130}}, c_time =3D 52482882, c_arg =3D 0x2, c_=
func =3D 0,=20
      c_flags =3D 0}, {c_links =3D {sle =3D {sle_next =3D 0xc603a2e8}, tqe =
=3D {
          tqe_next =3D 0xc603a2e8, tqe_prev =3D 0xc603cc30}}, c_time =3D 52=
485282,=20
      c_arg =3D 0x3, c_func =3D 0, c_flags =3D 0}}}
(kgdb) print tcpstat
$2 =3D {tcps_connattempt =3D 598918, tcps_accepts =3D 32652, tcps_connects =
=3D 612607,=20
  tcps_drops =3D 11716, tcps_conndrops =3D 13231, tcps_closed =3D 636232,=
=20
  tcps_segstimed =3D 1956837, tcps_rttupdated =3D 2499750, tcps_delack =3D =
615940,=20
  tcps_timeoutdrop =3D 23, tcps_rexmttimeo =3D 98711, tcps_persisttimeo =3D=
 55,=20
  tcps_keeptimeo =3D 6166, tcps_keepprobe =3D 204, tcps_keepdrops =3D 5962,=
=20
  tcps_sndtotal =3D 5368356, tcps_sndpack =3D 1503648, tcps_sndbyte =3D 388=
668829,=20
  tcps_sndrexmitpack =3D 13994, tcps_sndrexmitbyte =3D 10990401,=20
  tcps_sndacks =3D 2587703, tcps_sndprobe =3D 48, tcps_sndurg =3D 0,=20
  tcps_sndwinup =3D 53833, tcps_sndctrl =3D 1209130, tcps_rcvtotal =3D 4122=
112,=20
  tcps_rcvpack =3D 2027883, tcps_rcvbyte =3D 301857290, tcps_rcvbadsum =3D =
45,=20
  tcps_rcvbadoff =3D 0, tcps_rcvmemdrop =3D 0, tcps_rcvshort =3D 0,=20
  tcps_rcvduppack =3D 571696, tcps_rcvdupbyte =3D 1922742,=20
  tcps_rcvpartduppack =3D 27, tcps_rcvpartdupbyte =3D 14961,=20
  tcps_rcvoopack =3D 23227, tcps_rcvoobyte =3D 24974272,=20
  tcps_rcvpackafterwin =3D 637, tcps_rcvbyteafterwin =3D 677422,=20
  tcps_rcvafterclose =3D 479, tcps_rcvwinprobe =3D 4, tcps_rcvdupack =3D 61=
2690,=20
  tcps_rcvacktoomuch =3D 0, tcps_rcvackpack =3D 2551692,=20
  tcps_rcvackbyte =3D 384639652, tcps_rcvwinupd =3D 12215, tcps_pawsdrop =
=3D 83,=20
  tcps_predack =3D 58265, tcps_preddat =3D 255753, tcps_pcbcachemiss =3D 0,=
=20
  tcps_cachedrtt =3D 852, tcps_cachedrttvar =3D 852, tcps_cachedssthresh =
=3D 282,=20
  tcps_usedrtt =3D 11154, tcps_usedrttvar =3D 11154, tcps_usedssthresh =3D =
2053,=20
  tcps_persistdrop =3D 0, tcps_badsyn =3D 24, tcps_mturesent =3D 0,=20
  tcps_listendrop =3D 0, tcps_sc_added =3D 32716, tcps_sc_retransmitted =3D=
 197,=20
  tcps_sc_dupsyn =3D 165, tcps_sc_dropped =3D 0, tcps_sc_completed =3D 3265=
2,=20
  tcps_sc_bucketoverflow =3D 0, tcps_sc_cacheoverflow =3D 0, tcps_sc_reset =
=3D 52,=20
  tcps_sc_stale =3D 13, tcps_sc_aborted =3D 0, tcps_sc_badack =3D 0,=20
  tcps_sc_unreach =3D 0, tcps_sc_zonefail =3D 0, tcps_sc_sendcookie =3D 0,=
=20
  tcps_sc_recvcookie =3D 0}
(kgdb) q

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Hi,

rebooting seems to have fixed it, strangely. The permanent disk action
accompanied with these error messages came from the mail spooling
system. Several other places were infected as well, typing 'man' would
not work etc. Rebooting gave 'giving up on 21 buffers'. After reboot
all seems fine, but I don't trust this...

Cheers
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Thomas Stratmann wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I just opened my box from hibernation
> (Toshiba Libretto 110ct) to see lots of messages like
> 
> ad0s1a: hard error writing fsbn 4880895 of 2340416-2340439 (ad0s1 bn 468
> ***something** status=51 error=04
> 
> (sorry unable to exactly reproduce since I have to copy this from the
> screen, they keep coming every few seconds and litter up the screen)
> 
> The HD is just freshly installed. What is going on here, is my disk
> dying?

I had the same problem just one week ago on my laptop. It happend on /
filesystem. What I did is just remade filesystem on this slice and
during this
procedure bad sectors have been remapped by firmware, transparently to
me.
Now everything is fine. So perhaps you ran into the same problem.

Good luck,

-- 
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On Tuesday 04 March 2003 09:47, Thomas Stratmann wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I just opened my box from hibernation
> (Toshiba Libretto 110ct) to see lots of messages like
>
> ad0s1a: hard error writing fsbn 4880895 of 2340416-2340439 (ad0s1 bn 468
> ***something** status=51 error=04
>
> (sorry unable to exactly reproduce since I have to copy this from the
> screen, they keep coming every few seconds and litter up the screen)
>
> The HD is just freshly installed. What is going on here, is my disk
> dying?

    It looks like it.  Just because a disk is new doesn't mean it's
not defective.  :-(

    If you want to live dangerously, keep good backups.

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Hi,

to a completely different topic:

What's the correct mnemonics for the kern.fallback_elf_brand sysctl?
Is is 'when I encounter an ELF not branded for FreeBSD, treat it as
<argument to sysctl>-branded'?
Please correct me if I (and probably others) am getting this wrong!

I use sysctl kern.fallback_elf_brand=3 and try to launch a linux
bash but get an error message I currently cannot reproduce, something
like 'Unknown ELF brand '0'. Abort trap.' Is this behaviour ok?

By the way: I just had a crash as you could read in my previous mail and
now need to fsck my ext2fs partition. This gives me the same problem as
in creating it (I had to get a one-floppy linux distro to be able to
create the fs): both mke2fs and fsck.ext2 do one-byte (!) reads on the
special file which of course is not supported:

dscheck(#ad/0x30002): b_bcount 1 is not on a sector boundary (ssize 512)

Has anyone successfully worked with the e2fsprogs port? Is it broken? Or
DOES linux fs software do byte reads? (Are linux people nuts?)

Help appreciated. I'm currently stuck.

Cheers
Thomas Stratmann

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Thomas Stratmann wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> rebooting seems to have fixed it, strangely. The permanent disk action
> accompanied with these error messages came from the mail spooling
> system. Several other places were infected as well, typing 'man' would
> not work etc. Rebooting gave 'giving up on 21 buffers'. After reboot
> all seems fine, but I don't trust this...

As I told, your hard disk remapped bad sectors itself, in your case
even without remaking of filesystem. You are lucky. Anyway I suggest you
not to keep important data on this disk, because some day it may not
be able to remap bad sectors, because it will ran out of extra sectors,
to remap onto.

-- 
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On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 08:40:09AM -0600, Jonathan Lemon wrote:
> It looks to me like the tailq is empty (first == null, last == &head),
> but the code path to remove an entry was taken because the length
> counter indicated it was over the bucket limit.  sch_length == -1.
> 
> So my guess is the code dropped a syncache entry twice, and this is 
> the resulting mess.  Can you print out the contents of tcp_syncache
> and tcpstat?

Hi Jonathan,

This looks like the same issue that I contacted you about in the
following message from September (originally reported by Defacto
<gdef@cvd.pl>).

  Message-ID: <20020925132524.GH82779@hellblazer.nectar.cc>
  Message-ID: <20020923143811.14F8D13FB09@cvd.pl>

I can resend if you like.  Just hoping to help you connect the dots.

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I updated my 4.6 box to 4.8.  In 4.8 there's a problem using fast
interrupts for some reason.  This is a dead simple 486 box, without
pci or pccard.  I've included the entire dmesg, since it is so short.

Looking at the code, it fails because it fails.  No clue why it might
be failing.  Since this is my main firewall box, I'd like to get it
using fast interrupts again to make the console working.

Warner

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FreeBSD 4.8-RC #1: Mon Mar  3 21:51:01 MST 2003
    imp@harmony.village.org:/home/imp/FreeBSD/4x/src/sys/compile/ROVER
Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
CPU: Cyrix 486DX2 (486-class CPU)
  Origin = "CyrixInstead"  DIR=0x0c1b  Stepping=0  Revision=12
real memory  = 25165824 (24576K bytes)
avail memory = 21782528 (21272K bytes)
Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc02d7000.
md0: Malloc disk
npx0: <math processor> on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
isa0: <ISA bus> on motherboard
orm0: <Option ROM> at iomem 0xc0000-0xc7fff on isa0
fdc0: <NEC 765 or clone> at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0
fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0
ata0 at port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 irq 14 on isa0
atkbdc0: <Keyboard controller (i8042)> at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0
vga0: <Generic ISA VGA> at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0
sc0: <System console> at flags 0x100 on isa0
sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300>
sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
sio0: type 16450
sio0: unable to activate interrupt in fast mode - using normal mode
sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0
sio1: type 16450
sio1: unable to activate interrupt in fast mode - using normal mode
ppc0: <Parallel port> at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0
ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
lpt0: <Printer> on ppbus0
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
ed0 at port 0x280-0x29f iomem 0xd8000-0xd9fff irq 10 on isa0
ed0: address 00:00:c0:79:2a:f0, type SMC8416T (16 bit) 
ed1 at port 0x300-0x31f iomem 0xd0000 irq 5 on isa0
ed1: address 00:00:1b:1e:23:dc, type NE2000 (16 bit) 
IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based forwarding enabled, default to deny, logging disabled
ad0: 19546MB <FUJITSU MPF3204AT> [39714/16/63] at ata0-master BIOSPIO
Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a

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Was this behaviour from mergemaster intended ?


  *** Displaying differences between ./etc/login.conf.db and installed version:

Binary files /etc/login.conf.db and ./etc/login.conf.db differ

  Use 'd' to delete the temporary ./etc/login.conf.db
  Use 'i' to install the temporary ./etc/login.conf.db
  Use 'm' to merge the temporary and installed versions
  Use 'v' to view the diff results again

  Default is to leave the temporary file to deal with by hand

How should I deal with this? [Leave it for later] d

   *** Deleting ./etc/login.conf.db


Ceri

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| There was a commit recently about no sound for the SB Live in 5.x, but I
| don't know if that applies.

Just FTR, this doesn't apply to the -STABLE branch.

| Also, as you say the question marks may indicate untested or poorly
| tested code.

I don't know the origin of the question marks.  It's just what the name 
happens to be in the table of AC97 codec names - I suspect it is short for 
"unknown", but it's certainly not a great choice and is no longer represented 
this way in -CURRENT.  There are tens, maybe hundreds, of AC97 codecs in 
existence, the sound people don't encounter most of them.  They are all 
supposed to comply with the AC97 spec and work out-of-the box.  However, as 
with any standard there are a few deviants and this may be one.  It might 
require vendor specific initialization.  Or might it be a later revision of 
the emu10k1 h/w that the driver does not deal with in some way.

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Hello,

I don't believe in bad sectors since the disk is brand new.
I feel sure now to be able to tell that the thing happens very well
reproducably right after waking up from disk hibernation (which is
done by the toshiba bios). It didn't happen with the original
toshiba disk, however. I already found a workaround which works but is
really nasty:

Enter 'atacontrol' to have atacontrol loaded into mem
Enter 'atacontrol reinit 0' but *NOT* enter return so that the root
shell with this command is open after wakeup.
Go into hibernation (in my case, close lid or hit power button)
Wake up (open lid/hit power button)
Right then after the box has woken up hit return in the shell.

The symptom after hibernation was that any disk access seemed to fail,
so I suspected the controller had been left in some dangling state.

So, it works now for me except I never must forget to exactly follow
the above procedure. If anyone knows a better way, *please* let me know!

Cheers
Thomas Stratmann


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On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Marcel Moolenaar wrote:

>
> As for non-i386 -Server:
>
> I have an almost finished set of diffs for ia64 to build and

See the alpha list for patches I posted today to make -Server build for
alpha - these are not 'ports ready' patches, but are against the stock
source...

Fred

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Anybody who uses the cvs-supfile example to get the repository should add
"cvsroot-all" to their supfile.  This is in addition to src-all, ports-all,
doc-all etc.

This is *ONLY* for the folks getting the CVS ,v files via cvsup.  If you
use tag=. or tag=RELENG_4, then you are not affected by this.  If you use
cvs-all (as all the mirrors use), you are not affected either.

I have updated cvs-supfile in -current but not RELENG_4 yet.  Presumably this
will get MFC'ed soon, but that depends on re@.

Cheers,
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Peter Wemm <peter@wemm.org> probably said:
> Anybody who uses the cvs-supfile example to get the repository
> should add "cvsroot-all" to their supfile.  This is in addition to
> src-all, ports-all, doc-all etc.

Is this needed for people using cvs-all ?
(I'm using the example supfile from the cvsup-mirror port).

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Peter Radcliffe wrote:
> Peter Wemm <peter@wemm.org> probably said:
> > Anybody who uses the cvs-supfile example to get the repository
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> > src-all, ports-all, doc-all etc.
> 
> Is this needed for people using cvs-all ?
> (I'm using the example supfile from the cvsup-mirror port).

No, cvs-all users are unaffected by this.  If you use the cvsup-mirror
port locally for an unofficial local mirror, you are unaffected too.

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On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 04:50:37PM +0000, Ceri Davies wrote:
>=20
> Was this behaviour from mergemaster intended ?
>=20
>=20
>   *** Displaying differences between ./etc/login.conf.db and installed ve=
rsion:
>=20
> Binary files /etc/login.conf.db and ./etc/login.conf.db differ
>=20
>   Use 'd' to delete the temporary ./etc/login.conf.db
>   Use 'i' to install the temporary ./etc/login.conf.db
>   Use 'm' to merge the temporary and installed versions
>   Use 'v' to view the diff results again
>=20
>   Default is to leave the temporary file to deal with by hand
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> How should I deal with this? [Leave it for later] d
>=20
>    *** Deleting ./etc/login.conf.db
>=20
Sorry, I don't use mergemaster(8) so I can't say.  Doug was
all for this change, so he may be of some help here.


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This is to follow up my previous post, in case someone else
finds they've got a Galeon browser that continues to spawn new
windows infinitely.

Discussion of this problem on other newsgroups, regarding Linux
and Debian specifically, produced one solution (as of January 13
of this year): delete the file "compreg.dat", found on FreeBSD
systems at the following path:

/usr/X11R6/lib/mozilla/components/compreg.dat

This file is read-only for a mortal user, which is why I was
able to use Galeon and/or Mozilla normally while logged in as
such.  But when logged in as root I have write permission, and
that apparently messes this file up.  The file, after a fresh
compile, is about 175K - and that is apparently OK - but after
the first use of Mozilla as "root" that file is now 143K.  That
is when I get the symptoms - Mozilla tries to open but doesn't,
and eats memory behind the scenes until the end of swap is
reached, while Galeon will spawn new windows forever until
killed.  Deleting this now-altered file stops that behavior.  No
recompile is necessary, which is what you'd have to do
otherwise.

With this file absent, Galeon and Mozilla take a little longer
to load but do not present any problems or show any error
messages - either with root or mortal user opening them.  I just
have to remember to delete the "compreg.dat" after Mozilla
writes a new one.

This presents the next question, and maybe someone knows this:
what needs to be present in this "compreg.dat" for Mozilla to
present properly, and what is in the Mozilla code that rewrites
it so badly?  If someone has already posted an answer to this,
please direct me to it as my search through Google has not
produced that yet.

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On Tue, 2003-03-04 at 17:30, Robert English wrote:

> This presents the next question, and maybe someone knows this:
> what needs to be present in this "compreg.dat" for Mozilla to
> present properly, and what is in the Mozilla code that rewrites
> it so badly?  If someone has already posted an answer to this,
> please direct me to it as my search through Google has not
> produced that yet.

This file is the component registry that is created during the
post-build of Mozilla.  You might try running the following commands as
root to recreate it:

(cd /usr/X11R6/lib/mozilla; \
	env LD_LIBRARY_PATH=3D. MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME=3D. ./regxpcom; \
	env LD_LIBRARY_PATH=3D. MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME=3D. ./regchrome)

You might also try doing a chmod 0444 on this file after recreation.

Joe

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Hello everyone,

to start with, I was wrong before today on the kern.fallback_elf_brand
issue. It works for me, I just forgot to kldload linux before. Sorry for
that.

Now to the biggie: my ata symptoms seem as I already mentioned, when waking
up from disk hibernation the very first (and all following) disk access will
fail, so tons of hard ... error messages run down my screen. I already
mentioned my 'leave the atacontrol cmdline on a rootshell' workaround, but
this is really inconvenient.

I am proud to present what is just a bad hack that sort of works for me.
I went into ata-disk.h/c and made count the PIO errors, and as soon as the
fourth is encountered, ad_reinit is called. No spooky messages any more.
For anyone who wants to test for whatever crazy reasons (the only sensible
one would be you have the same symptom), beware that these first four accesses
acually fail hard, with whatever consequences this has. Can't help, but
I thought counting errors would be a good idea instead of resetting
instantly.

Patches are attached, have fun.

Yours
Thomas Stratmann

P.S. The ext2fsprogs issue is still unresolved, people who get it working
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*** 74,82 ****
      struct devstat		stats;		/* devstat entry */
      struct disk			disk;		/* disklabel/slice stuff */
      dev_t			dev;		/* device place holder */
- /********patch********/
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  	ata_prtdev(adp->device, "DMA problem fallback to PIO mode\n");
  
! /************patch**********/
!     /* was this a PIO operation? */
!     if (!(request->flags & ADR_F_DMA_USED)) {
!     	/* PIO read -> get the data */
! 	if ((request->flags & (ADR_F_READ | ADR_F_ERROR)) == ADR_F_READ) {
! 		/* ready to receive data? */
! 		if ((adp->device->channel->status & (ATA_S_READY|ATA_S_DSC|ATA_S_DRQ))
! 		    != (ATA_S_READY|ATA_S_DSC|ATA_S_DRQ))
! 		    ata_prtdev(adp->device, "read interrupt arrived early");
  
! 		if (ata_wait(adp->device, (ATA_S_READY | ATA_S_DSC | ATA_S_DRQ)) != 0) {
! 		    ata_prtdev(adp->device, "read error detected (too) late");
! 		    request->flags |= ADR_F_ERROR;
! 		}
! 		else {
! 		    /* data ready, read in */
! 		    if (adp->device->channel->flags & ATA_USE_16BIT)
! 			ATA_INSW(adp->device->channel->r_io, ATA_DATA,
! 				 (void*)((uintptr_t)request->data + request->donecount),
! 				 request->currentsize / sizeof(int16_t));
! 		    else
! 			ATA_INSL(adp->device->channel->r_io, ATA_DATA,
! 				 (void*)((uintptr_t)request->data + request->donecount),
! 				 request->currentsize / sizeof(int32_t));
! 		}
!     	} else if (request->flags & ADR_F_ERROR) { /* failure */
! 		if (++adp->pioerrs >= 4) {
! 			adp->pioerrs = 0;
! 			printf("PIO error count >= 4 for this disk, ");
! 			printf("calling reinit...\n");
! 			ad_reinit(adp->device);
! 		}
  	}
      }
  
--- 649,677 ----
      if (request->flags & ADR_F_FORCE_PIO && !(request->flags & ADR_F_ERROR))
  	ata_prtdev(adp->device, "DMA problem fallback to PIO mode\n");
  
!     /* if this was a PIO read operation, get the data */
!     if (!(request->flags & ADR_F_DMA_USED) &&
! 	(request->flags & (ADR_F_READ | ADR_F_ERROR)) == ADR_F_READ) {
  
! 	/* ready to receive data? */
! 	if ((adp->device->channel->status & (ATA_S_READY|ATA_S_DSC|ATA_S_DRQ))
! 	    != (ATA_S_READY|ATA_S_DSC|ATA_S_DRQ))
! 	    ata_prtdev(adp->device, "read interrupt arrived early");
! 
! 	if (ata_wait(adp->device, (ATA_S_READY | ATA_S_DSC | ATA_S_DRQ)) != 0) {
! 	    ata_prtdev(adp->device, "read error detected (too) late");
! 	    request->flags |= ADR_F_ERROR;
! 	}
! 	else {
! 	    /* data ready, read in */
! 	    if (adp->device->channel->flags & ATA_USE_16BIT)
! 		ATA_INSW(adp->device->channel->r_io, ATA_DATA,
! 			 (void*)((uintptr_t)request->data + request->donecount),
! 			 request->currentsize / sizeof(int16_t));
! 	    else
! 		ATA_INSL(adp->device->channel->r_io, ATA_DATA,
! 			 (void*)((uintptr_t)request->data + request->donecount),
! 			 request->currentsize / sizeof(int32_t));
  	}
      }
  

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Hi all,

After deleting a 80GB file on a IDE disk, the disk got
empty about 50% then rm(1) begun to consume all cpu and the
system got more and more unresponsive. I could not interrupt
the rm in any way, even kill -9 did not help, it was really
busy with unlink().

Later it lost the link and I had to turn it of after another 30 mins.

I don't know if it's a deadlock or a race somewhere, I suspect
that the OS was still alive, but really really slow.

I consider this as a serious bug. Note that I run softupdates
on the disk.

Martin

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Thanks for the reply on this one; your suggested commands
reminded me of the (many) times I've deinstalled Mozilla and got
messages about two files that did not match their MD5 checksums
- seems to me those were the two files, "regxpcom" and
"regchrome".

More experiments are necessary before I leap to any conclusions
on this one, but the permissions on those two files are
currently "0644".  Before this is over, I may have to modify
those two to "0444" as well.


--- Joe Marcus Clarke <marcus@marcuscom.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 2003-03-04 at 17:30, Robert English wrote:
> 
> 8==snip==
> 
> This file is the component registry that is created during the
> post-build of Mozilla.  You might try running the following
> commands as
> root to recreate it:
> 
> (cd /usr/X11R6/lib/mozilla; \
> 	env LD_LIBRARY_PATH=. MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME=. ./regxpcom; \
> 	env LD_LIBRARY_PATH=. MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME=. ./regchrome)
> 
> You might also try doing a chmod 0444 on this file after
> recreation.
> 
> Joe
> 



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On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 06:35:39PM +0100, Thomas Stratmann wrote:
> 
> Enter 'atacontrol' to have atacontrol loaded into mem
> Enter 'atacontrol reinit 0' but *NOT* enter return so that the root
> shell with this command is open after wakeup.
> Go into hibernation (in my case, close lid or hit power button)
> Wake up (open lid/hit power button)
> Right then after the box has woken up hit return in the shell.
> 
> The symptom after hibernation was that any disk access seemed to fail,
> so I suspected the controller had been left in some dangling state.
> 
> So, it works now for me except I never must forget to exactly follow
> the above procedure. If anyone knows a better way, *please* let me know!

Put the 'atacontrol' invocation in 'rc.suspend' and the 'atacontrol
reinit 0' in 'rc.resume'?

Cheers,

AS

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On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 12:07:01AM +0200, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 04:50:37PM +0000, Ceri Davies wrote:
> > 
> > Was this behaviour from mergemaster intended ?
> > 
> > 
> >   *** Displaying differences between ./etc/login.conf.db and installed version:
> > 
> > Binary files /etc/login.conf.db and ./etc/login.conf.db differ
> > 
> >   Use 'd' to delete the temporary ./etc/login.conf.db
> >   Use 'i' to install the temporary ./etc/login.conf.db
> >   Use 'm' to merge the temporary and installed versions
> >   Use 'v' to view the diff results again
> > 
> >   Default is to leave the temporary file to deal with by hand
> > 
> > How should I deal with this? [Leave it for later] d
> > 
> >    *** Deleting ./etc/login.conf.db
> > 
> Sorry, I don't use mergemaster(8) so I can't say.  Doug was
> all for this change, so he may be of some help here.

I think it is because previously login.conf.db was optional. Now it
is kind of forced on you because all installations will have it. So
either you have to remember to delete it or remember to update it
after login.conf has changed. FWIW I never used login.conf.db on
any of my machines because the system can read login.conf already
and I don't maintain high login rate machines.

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On Wed, 5 Mar 2003, John Hay wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 12:07:01AM +0200, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 04:50:37PM +0000, Ceri Davies wrote:
> > >
> > > Was this behaviour from mergemaster intended ?
> > >
> > >
> > >   *** Displaying differences between ./etc/login.conf.db and installed version:
> > >
> > > Binary files /etc/login.conf.db and ./etc/login.conf.db differ
> > >
> > >   Use 'd' to delete the temporary ./etc/login.conf.db
> > >   Use 'i' to install the temporary ./etc/login.conf.db
> > >   Use 'm' to merge the temporary and installed versions
> > >   Use 'v' to view the diff results again
> > >
> > >   Default is to leave the temporary file to deal with by hand
> > >
> > > How should I deal with this? [Leave it for later] d
> > >
> > >    *** Deleting ./etc/login.conf.db
> > >
> > Sorry, I don't use mergemaster(8) so I can't say.  Doug was
> > all for this change, so he may be of some help here.
>
> I think it is because previously login.conf.db was optional. Now it
> is kind of forced on you because all installations will have it. So
> either you have to remember to delete it or remember to update it
> after login.conf has changed.

Correct, but this is not a bad thing. :) mergemaster already prompts you
to rebuild it when it's updated, so this is not rocket science.

> FWIW I never used login.conf.db on
> any of my machines because the system can read login.conf already
> and I don't maintain high login rate machines.

Are you sure that login time is the only time that this is read? :)

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On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 10:35:39PM -0800, Doug Barton wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Mar 2003, John Hay wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 12:07:01AM +0200, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
> > > On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 04:50:37PM +0000, Ceri Davies wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Was this behaviour from mergemaster intended ?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   *** Displaying differences between ./etc/login.conf.db and installed version:
> > > >
> > > > Binary files /etc/login.conf.db and ./etc/login.conf.db differ
> > > >
> > > >   Use 'd' to delete the temporary ./etc/login.conf.db
> > > >   Use 'i' to install the temporary ./etc/login.conf.db
> > > >   Use 'm' to merge the temporary and installed versions
> > > >   Use 'v' to view the diff results again
> > > >
> > > >   Default is to leave the temporary file to deal with by hand
> > > >
> > > > How should I deal with this? [Leave it for later] d
> > > >
> > > >    *** Deleting ./etc/login.conf.db
> > > >
> > > Sorry, I don't use mergemaster(8) so I can't say.  Doug was
> > > all for this change, so he may be of some help here.
> >
> > I think it is because previously login.conf.db was optional. Now it
> > is kind of forced on you because all installations will have it. So
> > either you have to remember to delete it or remember to update it
> > after login.conf has changed.
> 
> Correct, but this is not a bad thing. :) mergemaster already prompts you
> to rebuild it when it's updated, so this is not rocket science.

Well I did not mean it was necessarily bad, but it is a change and might
be ok for -current. I'm just not so sure it is good for -stable too. Say
for instance someone is used to just editing /etc/login.conf and have
it take effect, so if he installs 4.8 and just edit /etc/login.conf, it
won't take effect as it did before.

> > FWIW I never used login.conf.db on
> > any of my machines because the system can read login.conf already
> > and I don't maintain high login rate machines.
> 
> Are you sure that login time is the only time that this is read? :)

Well, no. :-)

John
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On Tue, 2003-03-04 at 10:22, Fred Clift wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Marcel Moolenaar wrote:
> 
> >
> > As for non-i386 -Server:
> >
> > I have an almost finished set of diffs for ia64 to build and
> 
> See the alpha list for patches I posted today to make -Server build for
> alpha - these are not 'ports ready' patches, but are against the stock
> source...

Okay, I added that to the port.  Could you try the updated ports?  Also,
anyone else who's listening, the ports need much more widespread testing
in order for it to make it into 4.8-RELEASE.

The current diffs are at:
http://people.freebsd.org/~anholt/X/files.html

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On Tue, 2003-03-04 at 05:25, Ken Mays wrote:
> Would the FreeBSD team consider the benefits of integrating Xfree86 v4.3.x
> for v4.8?!? The upgrade that was done on the video drivers alone was worth
> it for me.

The release engineers have been considering allowing XFree86 4.3 in
4.8-RELEASE, but it needs widespread testing.  Anyone interested, please
apply the diffs at:
http://people.freebsd.org/~anholt/X/files.html
to your ports tree and install.

Besides basic problems I may have caused with the ports, oddities in
cursor handling would be particularly likely because of changes in 4.3.0
which were somewhat last-minute.  Some changes have been made in XFree86
CVS post-4.3.0 already, so if you report anything I may be able to track
down a fix.

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On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 08:27:21PM -0600, Imtiaz, Fazle wrote:
> I run a very high traffic web site with FreeBSD 4.7 and am considering
> moving into Dual Xeon based platform. Does FreeBSD 4.7 support
> hyper threading and if it does, are there any known issues and problems
> with it? My system is already SMP enabled, does anything special need
> to be done?

4.7 supports hyperthreading only if the BIOS includes the virtual
CPUs in the MP table. Some BIOSes do this, and others do not.

4.8-PRERELEASE will always enable hyperthreading if the processors
are capable of it. 4.8-RELEASE will probably make this a kernel
option, so people who don't want hyperthreading can turn it off.
John Balwdin is finalising the details of the option at the moment.

	David.

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On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Ceri Davies wrote:

>
> Was this behaviour from mergemaster intended ?

Depends on what you mean by "behaviour from mergemaster." :) It relies
entirely on src/etc/Makefile to "know" (or more precisely, to avoid
knowledge of) what files to deal with.

I just committed the attached patch to fix this on -current. Release
engineers, I'd like to MFC it before 4.8 if possible. The only .db files
that exist currently in TEMPROOT are the password files that were already
being deleted, and the newly added login.conf.db; so there won't be any
actual difference in user experience.

Doug


>   *** Displaying differences between ./etc/login.conf.db and installed version:
>
> Binary files /etc/login.conf.db and ./etc/login.conf.db differ
>
>   Use 'd' to delete the temporary ./etc/login.conf.db
>   Use 'i' to install the temporary ./etc/login.conf.db
>   Use 'm' to merge the temporary and installed versions
>   Use 'v' to view the diff results again
>
>   Default is to leave the temporary file to deal with by hand
>
> How should I deal with this? [Leave it for later] d
>
>    *** Deleting ./etc/login.conf.db
>
>
> Ceri
>
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hi, there!

I noticed that nForce2 support (as well as nForce1 fixes) were not MFC'ed
to RELENG_4. Is it planned to MFC it before 4.8-RELEASE?

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Subject: Re: Is XFree86 4.3.0 going to be in 4.8?
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I'd like to cast a vote for waiting on our 4.8 release until there is a
solid 4.3.[01] release of X, as long as the delay is say, weeks, rather
than months. I've had to patch the X ports by hand with stuff from the X
cvs tree in order to get it to recognize my new video card, and there are
a lot of other users in the same/similar boats.

Not only is the marginal value of this release made more significant with
an up to date X, but there is precedent for a delay of this nature.

Just a thought,

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Are there any dangers in doing simply a "make installworld" within all
jails after doing "make buildworld" for one jail or even only the host
system?
/usr/src and /usr/obj are moved into the jail tree when necessary to
avoid NFS.

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Hi,

> Did you notice what the wait channel was? If the machine is still
> there, you could hit ^T and see what it says.

I just reproduced it on a second faster server. The file is also
80GB big.

Unfortunatly I lost the link of my ssh connection. After
~10 mins the server was again running and up.

So this seems to be a scheduler and softupdates issue !

Martin

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It seems Max Khon wrote:
> hi, there!
> 
> I noticed that nForce2 support (as well as nForce1 fixes) were not MFC'ed
> to RELENG_4. Is it planned to MFC it before 4.8-RELEASE?

Dunno, the changes are part of a larger rewrite of the ATA code in 
current and cannot be backported without changes. I dont think I
have the time before 4.8 to do anything about it...

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The achievement in integrating Xfree86 v4.3.x in the release of FBSD v4.8
will be admirable. I've been looking at it as of this week as well as KDE
v3.1 and Gnome v2.2 on various platforms. There are some issues, but its in
the integrating between the desktop environments (KDE vs Xfree86) and not
FreeBSD specific.

I'm reviewing the quality of the builds/ports of KDE 3.1 and Gnome 2.2
integration with Xfree86 v 4.3.x. I'll be glad to look into this on FreeBSD
for QA testing.
~Ken

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> On Tue, 2003-03-04 at 05:25, Ken Mays wrote:
> > Would the FreeBSD team consider the benefits of integrating Xfree86
v4.3.x
> > for v4.8?!? The upgrade that was done on the video drivers alone was
worth
> > it for me.
>
> The release engineers have been considering allowing XFree86 4.3 in
> 4.8-RELEASE, but it needs widespread testing.  Anyone interested, please
> apply the diffs at:
> http://people.freebsd.org/~anholt/X/files.html
> to your ports tree and install.
>
> Besides basic problems I may have caused with the ports, oddities in
> cursor handling would be particularly likely because of changes in 4.3.0
> which were somewhat last-minute.  Some changes have been made in XFree86
> CVS post-4.3.0 already, so if you report anything I may be able to track
> down a fix.
>
> --
> Eric Anholt                                eta@lclark.edu
> http://people.freebsd.org/~anholt/         anholt@FreeBSD.org
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On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 12:17:43AM -0800, Eric Anholt wrote:
> On Tue, 2003-03-04 at 10:22, Fred Clift wrote:
> > On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Marcel Moolenaar wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > > As for non-i386 -Server:
> > >
> > > I have an almost finished set of diffs for ia64 to build and
> > 
> > See the alpha list for patches I posted today to make -Server build for
> > alpha - these are not 'ports ready' patches, but are against the stock
> > source...
> 
> Okay, I added that to the port.  Could you try the updated ports?  Also,
> anyone else who's listening, the ports need much more widespread testing
> in order for it to make it into 4.8-RELEASE.

Is it OK to present result directly to you or should it be to STABLE?
> 
> The current diffs are at:
> http://people.freebsd.org/~anholt/X/files.html
> 
> -- 
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On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 11:44:44AM +0100, Frank Tegtmeyer typed:
> Are there any dangers in doing simply a "make installworld" within all
> jails after doing "make buildworld" for one jail or even only the host
> system?
> /usr/src and /usr/obj are moved into the jail tree when necessary to
> avoid NFS.

I usually do something like this after I have completed a build- 
installworld cycle on the hostsystem (my jails are all subdirs of /jails)

# foreach jail ( /jails/* )
# make installworld DESTDIR=$jail
# mergemaster -i -D $jail
# end 

> 
> Regards, Frank
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At 09:00 05/03/2003 -0500, Mark Thomas wrote:
>Given a fresh cvsup of the source tree, is there a way to rebuild 
>/usr/src/contrib/sendmail without rebuilding world?

   From the advisory:

# cd /usr/src/lib/libsm
# make obj && make depend && make
# cd /usr/src/lib/libsmutil
# make obj && make depend && make
# cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail
# make obj && make depend && make && make install

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Ruben de Groot <fbsd-q@bzerk.org> writes:

> # make installworld DESTDIR=$jail
> # mergemaster -i -D $jail

Thanks for the answer. I didn't trust the DESTDIR and -D options
enough to avoid a chroot environment. I will try it this way now.

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On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 01:40:49PM -0600, Quincey Koziol wrote:

>     Unfortunately, rebuilding heimdal fails with this error:
[...]
> crypto.c: In function `krb5_DES_schedule':
> crypto.c:156: warning: passing arg 2 of `DES_set_key' from incompatible pointer type

I've fixed this in the FreeBSD ports tree.
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> On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 01:40:49PM -0600, Quincey Koziol wrote:
> 
> >     Unfortunately, rebuilding heimdal fails with this error:
> [...]
> > crypto.c: In function `krb5_DES_schedule':
> > crypto.c:156: warning: passing arg 2 of `DES_set_key' from incompatible pointer type
> 
> I've fixed this in the FreeBSD ports tree.
    Ah, yes, I've re-built heimdal and telnet connections are operating
correctly now.

        Thanks,
            Quincey

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> Thanks for the answer. I didn't trust the DESTDIR and -D options enough to
> avoid a chroot environment. I will try it this way now.

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Hello all,

I had a question in regards to this post about sendmail.  I noticed the
same problem on my system:

> Due to my less than perfect memory I can't pinpoint exactly when, but=20
> after upgrading my 4.x-system it seems like the sendmail_enable=3D"NO" =

> in /etc/rc.conf is being ignored and sendmail gets started anyway.

Is there any reason why even if you put "NO" sendmail still starts up?
It seems kind of weird that it would start.

Scott Renna


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
[mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of Stacey Roberts
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 2:11 AM
To: Joachim Str=F6mbergson
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Subject: Re: sendmail_enable=3D"NO" ignored in 4.7+?


Hello,
   =20
On Tue, 2003-03-04 at 07:06, Joachim Str=F6mbergson wrote:
> Aloha!
>=20
> Due to my less than perfect memory I can't pinpoint exactly when, but=20
> after upgrading my 4.x-system it seems like the sendmail_enable=3D"NO" =

> in /etc/rc.conf is being ignored and sendmail gets started anyway.
>=20
> AFAIK, this happened after upgrading from 4.6 to 4.7. I'm currently at

> 4.8-RC and the same behaviour is present.
>=20
> Checking processes after boot I see:
>=20
> root     106  0,0  0,3  3196 1788  ??  Ss   11:04pm   0:00,97
sendmail:
> accepting connections (sendmail)
> smmsp    109  0,0  0,3  3076 1404  ??  Is   11:04pm   0:00,01
sendmail:
> Queue runner@00:30:00 for /var/spool/clientmqueue (sendmail)
>=20
> What have I missed? Why is the setting in rc.conf being ignored.=20
> Where/what is starting sendmail?

To completely disable sendmail on startup, use:

sendmail_enable=3D"NONE"

Regards,

Stacey

>=20
> Any pointers and help greatly appreciated.
--=20
Stacey Roberts
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On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 10:03:35AM -0500, Scott Renna wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> I had a question in regards to this post about sendmail.  I noticed the
> same problem on my system:

How come this is so hard. Just do a grep for sendmail 
in /etc/defaults/rc.conf and you get:

 2$ grep sendmail /etc/defaults/rc.conf 
mta_start_script="/etc/rc.sendmail"
# Settings for /etc/rc.sendmail:
sendmail_enable="YES"   # Run the sendmail inbound daemon (YES/NO/NONE).
                        # If NONE, don't start any sendmail processes.
sendmail_flags="-L sm-mta -bd -q30m" # Flags to sendmail (as a server)
sendmail_submit_enable="YES"    # Start a localhost-only MTA for mail submission
sendmail_submit_flags="-L sm-mta -bd -q30m -ODaemonPortOptions=Addr=localhost"
sendmail_outbound_enable="YES"  # Dequeue stuck mail (YES/NO).
sendmail_outbound_flags="-L sm-queue -q30m" # Flags to sendmail (outbound only)
sendmail_msp_queue_enable="YES" # Dequeue stuck clientmqueue mail (YES/NO).
sendmail_msp_queue_flags="-L sm-msp-queue -Ac -q30m"
                                # Flags for sendmail_msp_queue daemon.

And the read the lines about sendmail_enable!
> 
> > Due to my less than perfect memory I can't pinpoint exactly when, but 
> > after upgrading my 4.x-system it seems like the sendmail_enable="NO" 
> > in /etc/rc.conf is being ignored and sendmail gets started anyway.
> 
> Is there any reason why even if you put "NO" sendmail still starts up?
> It seems kind of weird that it would start.
> 
> Scott Renna
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of Stacey Roberts
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 2:11 AM
> To: Joachim Strömbergson
> Cc: stable
> Subject: Re: sendmail_enable="NO" ignored in 4.7+?
> 
> 
> Hello,
>     
> On Tue, 2003-03-04 at 07:06, Joachim Strömbergson wrote:
> > Aloha!
> > 
> > Due to my less than perfect memory I can't pinpoint exactly when, but 
> > after upgrading my 4.x-system it seems like the sendmail_enable="NO" 
> > in /etc/rc.conf is being ignored and sendmail gets started anyway.
> > 
> > AFAIK, this happened after upgrading from 4.6 to 4.7. I'm currently at
> 
> > 4.8-RC and the same behaviour is present.
> > 
> > Checking processes after boot I see:
> > 
> > root     106  0,0  0,3  3196 1788  ??  Ss   11:04pm   0:00,97
> sendmail:
> > accepting connections (sendmail)
> > smmsp    109  0,0  0,3  3076 1404  ??  Is   11:04pm   0:00,01
> sendmail:
> > Queue runner@00:30:00 for /var/spool/clientmqueue (sendmail)
> > 
> > What have I missed? Why is the setting in rc.conf being ignored. 
> > Where/what is starting sendmail?
> 
> To completely disable sendmail on startup, use:
> 
> sendmail_enable="NONE"
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Stacey
> 
> > 
> > Any pointers and help greatly appreciated.
> -- 
> Stacey Roberts
> B.Sc (HONS) Computer Science
> 
> Web: www.vickiandstacey.com
> 
> 
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On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 10:03:35AM -0500, Scott Renna wrote:
> I had a question in regards to this post about sendmail.  I noticed the
> same problem on my system:
> 
> > Due to my less than perfect memory I can't pinpoint exactly when, but 
> > after upgrading my 4.x-system it seems like the sendmail_enable="NO" 
> > in /etc/rc.conf is being ignored and sendmail gets started anyway.
> 
> Is there any reason why even if you put "NO" sendmail still starts up?
> It seems kind of weird that it would start.

Read /usr/src/UPDATING, and also read any of the fifty bazillion messages in
the list archives on the subject. This change was made nearly a year ago.

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I find it working very fine on my troublesome 5.0-CURRENT
box. I've had big problems for some weeks getting 4.2
to work. I gave up the other day, but 4.3.0 worked
straight "out of the box", if you can say so after a 
portupgrade XFree86

What didn't work was the installation of XFree86-FontServer
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On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 10:03:35AM -0500, Scott Renna wrote:
> Hello all,
>=20
> I had a question in regards to this post about sendmail.  I noticed the
> same problem on my system:
>=20
> > Due to my less than perfect memory I can't pinpoint exactly when, but=
=20
> > after upgrading my 4.x-system it seems like the sendmail_enable=3D"NO"=
=20
> > in /etc/rc.conf is being ignored and sendmail gets started anyway.
>=20
> Is there any reason why even if you put "NO" sendmail still starts up?
> It seems kind of weird that it would start.
>=20
> Scott Renna
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sendmail_enable accepts a str value and not a bool value. You have more cho=
ice
than to start or not to start sendmail daemon. As stated in rc.sendmail(8)
manpage:

[...]

     These variables are used to determine how the sendmail(8) daemons are
     started:

       # MTA
       if (${sendmail_enable} =3D=3D NONE)
           # Do nothing
       else if (${sendmail_enable} =3D=3D YES)
           start sendmail with ${sendmail_flags}
       else if (${sendmail_submit_enable} =3D=3D YES)
           start sendmail with ${sendmail_submit_flags}
       else if (${sendmail_outbound_enable} =3D=3D YES)
           start sendmail with ${sendmail_outbound_flags}
       endif

       # MSP Queue Runner
       if (${sendmail_enable} !=3D NONE &&
           [ -r /etc/mail/submit.cf] &&
           ${sendmail_msp_queue_enable} =3D=3D YES)
           start sendmail with ${sendmail_msp_queue_flags}
       endif
[...]

	Francesco Casadei
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On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 07:19, Gunnar Flygt wrote:
> I find it working very fine on my troublesome 5.0-CURRENT
> box. I've had big problems for some weeks getting 4.2
> to work. I gave up the other day, but 4.3.0 worked
> straight "out of the box", if you can say so after a 
> portupgrade XFree86
> 
> What didn't work was the installation of XFree86-FontServer
> but I can live without that, I hope.

Okay, got that fixed, it'll be in the -8 diff.  (got to run to class). 
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From: "Frank Tegtmeyer" <fte-sub-freebsd-stable@fte.to>
> Ruben de Groot <fbsd-q@bzerk.org> writes:
>
> > # make installworld DESTDIR=$jail
> > # mergemaster -i -D $jail
>
> Thanks for the answer. I didn't trust the DESTDIR and -D options
> enough to avoid a chroot environment. I will try it this way now.
>
If the *.mc file in the jail is different from the *.mc file on the host,
you will need to manually update the sendmail.cf and aliases databases on
each jail, by telneting/sshing or using a chroot environment for the jail.
As mergemaster will not know to use the jails *.mc or to run the newalias
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"Scot Hetzel" <hetzels@westbend.net> writes:

> As mergemaster will not know to use the jails *.mc or to run the newalias
> command in the jail.

Thanks for the hint. Mergemaster tells me this also when running it
for a jail. I can safely ignore it because sendmail is not in use on
my systems.

One problem with the DESTDIR approach may be the use of
symlinks by a jail administrator - if there are symlinks set for
directories containing the binaries you may overwrite the hosts
directories. Maybe "make installworld" does a check for this too - I
didn't look at it.

Regards, Frank

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Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 11:34:40 -0800
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Hi all,

Didn't get any response to this on -questions and thought it might be more
appropriate here.  Sorry if not. . .

Trying to upgrade from 4.4-20020114-STABLE to 4.7-R-p7.  /usr isn't big
enough but /var is so:

lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  - 8 Mar  4 12:28 /usr/obj@ -> /var/obj
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  - 8 Mar  4 12:28 /usr/src@ -> /var/src

Ran mergemaster.sh -p, but for 2 buildworlds it fails with:

/var/src/lib/libutil/login_times.c: In function `in_lts':
/var/src/lib/libutil/login_times.c:159: warning: passing arg 2 of `in_ltms'
makes pointer from integer without a cast
*** Error code 1
Stop in /var/src/lib/libutil.
*** Error code 1

There's a more complete listing below, with a lot of "warning: implicit
declaration of function"  messages before it fails.

I'm not sure where to go from here.  Are the symlinks a problem?  Google
search comes up with problems with NFS mounts but they don't seem to apply
since the directory names are consistent. I can install from a 4.7-R CD but
have to go there, put a cd drive in, etc.  A hassle.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Riley



mkdep -f
.depend -a    -DLIBC_SCCS -I/var/src/lib/libutil -I/var/src/lib/libutil/../.
./sys -DINET6  /var/src/lib/libutil/login.c /var/src/lib/libutil/login_tty.c
/var/src/lib/libutil/logout.c /var/src/lib/libutil/logwtmp.c
/var/src/lib/libutil/pty.c /var/src/lib/libutil/login_cap.c
/var/src/lib/libutil/login_class.c /var/src/lib/libutil/login_auth.c
/var/src/lib/libutil/login_times.c /var/src/lib/libutil/login_ok.c
/var/src/lib/libutil/login_crypt.c /var/src/lib/libutil/_secure_path.c
/var/src/lib/libutil/uucplock.c /var/src/lib/libutil/property.c
/var/src/lib/libutil/auth.c /var/src/lib/libutil/realhostname.c
/var/src/lib/libutil/fparseln.c /var/src/lib/libutil/stub.c
cc -O -pipe  -Wall -DLIBC_SCCS -I/var/src/lib/libutil -I/var/src/lib/libutil
/../../sys -DINET6  -c /var/src/lib/libutil/login.c -o login.o
/var/src/lib/libutil/login.c: In function `login':
/var/src/lib/libutil/login.c:58: warning: implicit declaration of function
`ttyslot'
/var/src/lib/libutil/login.c:61: warning: implicit declaration of function
`write'
/var/src/lib/libutil/login.c:62: warning: implicit declaration of function
`close'
cc -O -pipe  -Wall -DLIBC_SCCS -I/var/src/lib/libutil -I/var/src/lib/libutil
/../../sys -DINET6  -c /var/src/lib/libutil/login_tty.c -o login_tty.o
/var/src/lib/libutil/login_tty.c: In function `login_tty':
/var/src/lib/libutil/login_tty.c:54: warning: implicit declaration of
function `setsid'
/var/src/lib/libutil/login_tty.c:57: warning: implicit declaration of
function `dup2'
/var/src/lib/libutil/login_tty.c:61: warning: implicit declaration of
function `close'
cc -O -pipe  -Wall -DLIBC_SCCS -I/var/src/lib/libutil -I/var/src/lib/libutil
/../../sys -DINET6  -c /var/src/lib/libutil/logout.c -o logout.o
/var/src/lib/libutil/logout.c: In function `logout':
/var/src/lib/libutil/logout.c:66: warning: implicit declaration of function
`read'
/var/src/lib/libutil/logout.c:71: warning: implicit declaration of function
`time'
/var/src/lib/libutil/logout.c:73: warning: implicit declaration of function
`write'
/var/src/lib/libutil/logout.c:76: warning: implicit declaration of function
`close'
cc -O -pipe  -Wall -DLIBC_SCCS -I/var/src/lib/libutil -I/var/src/lib/libutil
/../../sys -DINET6  -c /var/src/lib/libutil/logwtmp.c -o logwtmp.o
/var/src/lib/libutil/logwtmp.c: In function `trimdomain':
/var/src/lib/libutil/logwtmp.c:74: warning: implicit declaration of function
`gethostname'
/var/src/lib/libutil/logwtmp.c: In function `logwtmp':
/var/src/lib/libutil/logwtmp.c:160: warning: implicit declaration of
function `time'
/var/src/lib/libutil/logwtmp.c:161: warning: implicit declaration of
function `write'
/var/src/lib/libutil/logwtmp.c:165: warning: implicit declaration of
function `close'
cc -O -pipe  -Wall -DLIBC_SCCS -I/var/src/lib/libutil -I/var/src/lib/libutil
/../../sys -DINET6  -c /var/src/lib/libutil/pty.c -o pty.o
/var/src/lib/libutil/pty.c: In function `openpty':
/var/src/lib/libutil/pty.c:83: warning: implicit declaration of function
`chown'
/var/src/lib/libutil/pty.c:83: warning: implicit declaration of function
`getuid'
/var/src/lib/libutil/pty.c:85: warning: implicit declaration of function
`revoke'
/var/src/lib/libutil/pty.c:99: warning: implicit declaration of function
`close'
/var/src/lib/libutil/pty.c: In function `forkpty':
/var/src/lib/libutil/pty.c:118: warning: implicit declaration of function
`fork'
cc -O -pipe  -Wall -DLIBC_SCCS -I/var/src/lib/libutil -I/var/src/lib/libutil
/../../sys -DINET6  -c /var/src/lib/libutil/login_cap.c -o login_cap.o
/var/src/lib/libutil/login_cap.c: In function `login_getclassbyname':
/var/src/lib/libutil/login_cap.c:205: warning: implicit declaration of
function `geteuid'
/var/src/lib/libutil/login_cap.c:206: warning: implicit declaration of
function `getegid'
/var/src/lib/libutil/login_cap.c:207: warning: implicit declaration of
function `setegid'
/var/src/lib/libutil/login_cap.c:208: warning: implicit declaration of
function `seteuid'
/var/src/lib/libutil/login_cap.c:234: warning: implicit declaration of
function `close'
cc -O -pipe  -Wall -DLIBC_SCCS -I/var/src/lib/libutil -I/var/src/lib/libutil
/../../sys -DINET6  -c /var/src/lib/libutil/login_class.c -o login_class.o
/var/src/lib/libutil/login_class.c: In function `setusercontext':
/var/src/lib/libutil/login_class.c:365: warning: implicit declaration of
function `setgid'
/var/src/lib/libutil/login_class.c:370: warning: implicit declaration of
function `initgroups'
/var/src/lib/libutil/login_class.c:379: warning: implicit declaration of
function `setlogin'
/var/src/lib/libutil/login_class.c:390: warning: implicit declaration of
function `setuid'
cc -O -pipe  -Wall -DLIBC_SCCS -I/var/src/lib/libutil -I/var/src/lib/libutil
/../../sys -DINET6  -c /var/src/lib/libutil/login_auth.c -o login_auth.o
/var/src/lib/libutil/login_auth.c: In function `auth_cat':
/var/src/lib/libutil/login_auth.c:102: warning: implicit declaration of
function `read'
/var/src/lib/libutil/login_auth.c:103: warning: implicit declaration of
function `write'
/var/src/lib/libutil/login_auth.c:104: warning: implicit declaration of
function `close'
/var/src/lib/libutil/login_auth.c:105: warning: implicit declaration of
function `sleep'
cc -O -pipe  -Wall -DLIBC_SCCS -I/var/src/lib/libutil -I/var/src/lib/libutil
/../../sys -DINET6  -c /var/src/lib/libutil/login_times.c -o login_times.o
/var/src/lib/libutil/login_times.c: In function `parse_time':
/var/src/lib/libutil/login_times.c:52: warning: implicit declaration of
function `isdigit'
/var/src/lib/libutil/login_times.c: In function `parse_lt':
/var/src/lib/libutil/login_times.c:78: warning: implicit declaration of
function `tolower'
/var/src/lib/libutil/login_times.c:80: warning: implicit declaration of
function `isalpha'
/var/src/lib/libutil/login_times.c: In function `in_ltm':
/var/src/lib/libutil/login_times.c:116: dereferencing pointer to incomplete
type
/var/src/lib/libutil/login_times.c:118: dereferencing pointer to incomplete
type
/var/src/lib/libutil/login_times.c:118: dereferencing pointer to incomplete
type
/var/src/lib/libutil/login_times.c:120: dereferencing pointer to incomplete
type
/var/src/lib/libutil/login_times.c:126: dereferencing pointer to incomplete
type
/var/src/lib/libutil/login_times.c:127: dereferencing pointer to incomplete
type
/var/src/lib/libutil/login_times.c:128: warning: implicit declaration of
function `mktime'
/var/src/lib/libutil/login_times.c: In function `in_lt':
/var/src/lib/libutil/login_times.c:140: warning: implicit declaration of
function `localtime'
/var/src/lib/libutil/login_times.c:140: warning: passing arg 2 of `in_ltm'
makes pointer from integer without a cast
/var/src/lib/libutil/login_times.c: In function `in_lts':
/var/src/lib/libutil/login_times.c:159: warning: passing arg 2 of `in_ltms'
makes pointer from integer without a cast
*** Error code 1


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On Wed, 5 Mar 2003, Kirk Strauser wrote:

> At 2003-03-05T14:19:07Z, Frank Tegtmeyer <fte-sub-freebsd-stable@fte.to> writes:
>
> > Thanks for the answer. I didn't trust the DESTDIR and -D options enough to
> > avoid a chroot environment. I will try it this way now.
>
> I, too, have been using that method to update my jails for almost a year now
> without any problems.

Thank you for the kind words.... the -D option to mergemaster took a lot
more work to get right than I anticipated when I agreed to add it, but
it's nice to hear both that people are using it, and that it's working for
them. :)

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On the jails i have (using jail(8)) that are full OS loads, i use chroot (chroot(8)) to do the make installworld and mergemaster. This way you are still root, and not jail(8) root which doesn't all the perms that normal root has. 
example chroot /path/to/jail /bin/tcsh

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I rebooted my server 20hrs ago, and had 20gig of free space ... now I'm
down to 4.6gig ...

venus# df -t ufs
Filesystem    1K-blocks     Used   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/amrd0s1a 103777974 90836532 4639206    95%    /

Before I rebooted it 20hrs ago, it had drop'd down <500Meg, and after the
reboot, pop'd back up to 20gig ...

I can't seem to find where 16gig of disk space is being used though, but,
for instance, I had 12gig of files in /var/vmcore (from crash dumps) that
I removed, which should have increased me to 16gig free, but I'm still at
4.6gig and drop'ng ...

The system isn't particularly busy:

venus# iostat 5
      tty           amrd0             cpu
 tin tout  KB/t tps  MB/s  us ni sy in id
   1  116  0.00   0  0.00  32  0 28  1 40
   1  452  4.29 343  1.43  39  0 52  0  9
   0  225  5.21 258  1.31  32  0 47  1 21
   2   35  6.21 270  1.64  13  0 51  0 36
   1   38  4.46 268  1.17  19  0 49  1 31
   1   32  4.81 261  1.23  16  0 51  1 32

And the drive is 7x18gig in a RAID5 configuration ..

OS is 4.8-RC FreeBSD 4.8-RC #38: Tue Mar  4 22:43:18 CST 2003 with a patch
from Tor Egge to fix a problem with how vnodes are kept track of and
reclaimed/reused ...

I've tried doing a 'sync', figuring that maybe it would force all
outstanding writes to the drive, but that seems to make no difference
either ...

I'm doing a du right now to see if I can see anything large out of the
ordinary, but is there any way (maybe using lsof?) of finding out what,
if any, processes are holding open a large file?

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On 2003-Mar-05 20:53:25 -0400, "Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@hub.org> wrote:
>I'm doing a du right now to see if I can see anything large out of the
>ordinary, but is there any way (maybe using lsof?) of finding out what,
>if any, processes are holding open a large file?

The approach I've used is to grep the output from lsof.  Unnamed files
will have a name of the mountpoint.  "fsck -n" will also detect
"missing" disk space.

I can't offer any other suggestions, sorry.

Peter

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On Wed, 5 Mar 2003, Marc G. Fournier wrote:

> I rebooted my server 20hrs ago, and had 20gig of free space ... now I'm
> down to 4.6gig ...
>
> venus# df -t ufs
> Filesystem    1K-blocks     Used   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
> /dev/amrd0s1a 103777974 90836532 4639206    95%    /
>
> Before I rebooted it 20hrs ago, it had drop'd down <500Meg, and after the
> reboot, pop'd back up to 20gig ...
>
> I can't seem to find where 16gig of disk space is being used though, but,
> for instance, I had 12gig of files in /var/vmcore (from crash dumps) that
> I removed, which should have increased me to 16gig free, but I'm still at
> 4.6gig and drop'ng ...

The SZ|DV column of 'fstat' will give the size of open files, so
try sorting the output:

	fstat -f / | sort +7 -n

If the large file shows up, then you've then got the process id
from PID, the open mode from R/W and you can get the filename using
the INUM column:

	find / -inum $INUM


Good luck,
Chris


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Evening all ...

  I have an Intel server (SVW7500, or some designation like that) setup
with an Adaptec 2120S controller in it:

aac0: <Adaptec SCSI RAID 2120S> mem 0xf8000000-0xfbffffff irq 2 at device 9.0 on pci1
aac0: i960RX 100MHz, 48MB cache memory, optional battery present
aac0: Kernel 4.0-0, Build 5770, S/N 232fb7

  Originally, when we installed it, we had a problem where, while booting,
you would suddenly get the 'aac timeout' message scroll up the screen,
that has/had since been fixed ...

  Yesterday, after doing some work on one of our servers to increase the #
of vnodes, I added and built a new kernel with:

options         VM_KMEM_SIZE="(400*1024*1024)"
options         VM_KMEM_SIZE_MAX="(400*1024*1024)"

   Which I have running on venus (its using an AMI RAID card) without any
hassles ... upon reboot of the Adaptec/Intel server, I once more am
getting the Timeouts and inability to boot ... a kernel built 10 minutes
earlier, without those options, but the exact same code, runs fine, so
something with the VM_KMEM_SIZE increase is causing the problem ...

   Help?

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At 2003-03-05T22:32:26Z, Doug Barton <DougB@FreeBSD.ORG> writes:

> Thank you for the kind words.... the -D option to mergemaster took a lot
> more work to get right than I anticipated when I agreed to add it, but
> it's nice to hear both that people are using it, and that it's working for
> them. :)

Then let me amplify my praise for it.  `-D' has always worked perfectly from
the first time I tried it.  It never occurred to me that it was an add-on
feature since it just did what it was supposed to every time.  Thanks for
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Someone kindly tell me why my php4 install fails thus:



===>  Building for mod_php4-4.3.1
/bin/sh libtool --silent --mode=compile cc  -Iext/zlib/ -I/usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/ext/zlib/ -DPHP_ATOM_INC -I/usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/include -I/usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/main -I/usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1 -I/usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/Zend -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include/c-client -I/usr/local/include/mysql -I/usr/local/include/pspell  -DMOD_SSL=208112 -DMOD_PERL -DUSE_PERL_SSI -DAPPLLIB_EXP="/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/BSDPAN" -DEAPI -DAPPLLIB_EXP=/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/BSDPAN -I/usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/TSRM  -O -pipe -I/usr/local/include  -prefer-pic -c /usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/ext/zlib/zlib.c -o ext/zlib/zlib.lo
In file included from /usr/include/sys/param.h:104,
                 from /usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/TSRM/tsrm_config_common.h:14,
                 from /usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/TSRM/tsrm_virtual_cwd.h:26,
                 from /usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/main/php.h:360,
                 from /usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/ext/zlib/zlib.c:28:
/usr/include/machine/limits.h:81: warning: `LONG_MAX' redefined
/usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/Zend/zend.h:189: warning: this is the location of the previous definition
/usr/include/machine/limits.h:82: warning: `LONG_MIN' redefined
/usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/Zend/zend.h:193: warning: this is the location of the previous definition
In file included from /usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/TSRM/tsrm_config_common.h:14,
                 from /usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/TSRM/tsrm_virtual_cwd.h:26,
                 from /usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/main/php.h:360,
                 from /usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/ext/zlib/zlib.c:28:
/usr/include/sys/param.h:193: warning: `MAXPATHLEN' redefined
/usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/main/php.h:237: warning: this is the location of the previous definition
In file included from /usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/Zend/zend.h:202,
                 from /usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/main/php.h:34,
                 from /usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/ext/zlib/zlib.c:28:
/usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/Zend/zend_hash.h:119: syntax error before `va_list'
In file included from /usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/Zend/zend.h:203,
                 from /usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/main/php.h:34,
                 from /usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/ext/zlib/zlib.c:28:
/usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/Zend/zend_llist.h:34: syntax error before `va_list'
In file included from /usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/main/php.h:34,
                 from /usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/ext/zlib/zlib.c:28:
/usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/Zend/zend.h:285: syntax error before `va_list'
/usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/Zend/zend.h:423: syntax error before `va_list'
In file included from /usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/main/php.h:224,
                 from /usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/ext/zlib/zlib.c:28:
/usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/main/spprintf.h:40: syntax error before `va_list'
In file included from /usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/ext/zlib/zlib.c:28:
/usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/main/php.h:277: syntax error before `va_list'
In file included from /usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/main/php.h:360,
                 from /usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/ext/zlib/zlib.c:28:
/usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/TSRM/tsrm_virtual_cwd.h:159: warning: `struct utimbuf' declared inside parameter list
/usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/TSRM/tsrm_virtual_cwd.h:159: warning: its scope is only this definition or declaration, which is probably not what you want.
In file included from /usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/ext/standard/fsock.h:38,
                 from /usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/ext/standard/php_standard.h:44,
                 from /usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/ext/zlib/zlib.c:48:
/usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/main/php_network.h:113: syntax error before `socklen_t'
/usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/main/php_network.h:113: warning: `struct sockaddr' declared inside parameter list
In file included from /usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/ext/standard/php_standard.h:44,
                 from /usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/ext/zlib/zlib.c:48:
/usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1/ext/standard/fsock.h:43: warning: `struct in_addr' declared inside parameter list
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/www/mod_php4/work/php-4.3.1.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/www/mod_php4.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/www/mod_php4.




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On Wednesday 05 March 2003 08:57, Eric Anholt wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 07:19, Gunnar Flygt wrote:
> > I find it working very fine on my troublesome 5.0-CURRENT
> > box. I've had big problems for some weeks getting 4.2
> > to work. I gave up the other day, but 4.3.0 worked
> > straight "out of the box", if you can say so after a
> > portupgrade XFree86
> >
> > What didn't work was the installation of XFree86-FontServer
> > but I can live without that, I hope.
>
> Okay, got that fixed, it'll be in the -8 diff.  (got to run to class).
> Thanks!

Is this working with the nvidia driver?  I gotta track down that PCI TNT2 
card for my -current machine...

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EA> Okay, got that fixed, it'll be in the -8 diff.  (got to run to class). 
EA> Thanks!
I just compiled 4.3.0 using -9 diif and found that my Radeon 9000 works fine with radeon(4) driver, but DRI/DRM can't start:

drmOpenDevice: minor is 0
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such file or directory)
drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such file or directory)
drmOpenDevice: Open failed
drmOpenDevice: minor is 0
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such file or directory)
drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such file or directory)
drmOpenDevice: Open failed
[drm] failed to load kernel module "radeon"
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] drmOpen failed
(EE) RADEON(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit failed.  Disabling DRI.

5.0-RELEASE

device radeondrm present in kernel

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On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 23:43, Evgueni V. Gavrilov wrote:
> EA> Okay, got that fixed, it'll be in the -8 diff.  (got to run to class). 
> EA> Thanks!
> I just compiled 4.3.0 using -9 diif and found that my Radeon 9000 works fine with radeon(4) driver, but DRI/DRM can't start:

Those cards (8500-9100) are not supported by the DRM from 4.2.0 which is
in the kernel.  I've also been working on the changes for that, but it's
not complete yet.

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On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 23:36, Wes Peters wrote:
> On Wednesday 05 March 2003 08:57, Eric Anholt wrote:
> > On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 07:19, Gunnar Flygt wrote:
> > > I find it working very fine on my troublesome 5.0-CURRENT
> > > box. I've had big problems for some weeks getting 4.2
> > > to work. I gave up the other day, but 4.3.0 worked
> > > straight "out of the box", if you can say so after a
> > > portupgrade XFree86
> > >
> > > What didn't work was the installation of XFree86-FontServer
> > > but I can live without that, I hope.
> >
> > Okay, got that fixed, it'll be in the -8 diff.  (got to run to class).
> > Thanks!
> 
> Is this working with the nvidia driver?  I gotta track down that PCI TNT2 
> card for my -current machine...

Are you talking about the binary driver?  If it's a proper XFree86
module and XFree86 didn't screw up compatibility (I don't think they
did), it should continue working, but it could do things that would
prevent it from working in a new server.

I haven't tested cards besides the radeon due to lack of time so far.

The -9 diff is up (http://people.freebsd.org/~anholt/X/files.html) and I
haven't had any reports of problems with it so far.  If you get X 4.3.0
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a 4.2.0 installation to get it to work, and briefly how they've tested
it (i.e. started up gnome2 and did something, not just "it built" or
"startx works")

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Eric Anholt wrote:
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> On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 23:43, Evgueni V. Gavrilov wrote:
> > EA> Okay, got that fixed, it'll be in the -8 diff.  (got to run to class).
> > EA> Thanks!
> > I just compiled 4.3.0 using -9 diif and found that my Radeon 9000 works fine with radeon(4) driver, but DRI/DRM can't start:
> 
> Those cards (8500-9100) are not supported by the DRM from 4.2.0 which is
> in the kernel.  I've also been working on the changes for that, but it's
> not complete yet.

Is it planning to MFC DRM kernel modules? Now in -stable it is the only
way to install them from ports.

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On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 12:52:38AM -0800, Eric Anholt wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 23:36, Wes Peters wrote:
> > On Wednesday 05 March 2003 08:57, Eric Anholt wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 07:19, Gunnar Flygt wrote:
> > > > I find it working very fine on my troublesome 5.0-CURRENT
> > > > box. I've had big problems for some weeks getting 4.2
> > > > to work. I gave up the other day, but 4.3.0 worked
> > > > straight "out of the box", if you can say so after a
> > > > portupgrade XFree86
> > > >
> > > > What didn't work was the installation of XFree86-FontServer
> > > > but I can live without that, I hope.
> > >
> > > Okay, got that fixed, it'll be in the -8 diff.  (got to run to class).
> > > Thanks!
> > 
> > Is this working with the nvidia driver?  I gotta track down that PCI TNT2 
> > card for my -current machine...
> 
> Are you talking about the binary driver?  If it's a proper XFree86
> module and XFree86 didn't screw up compatibility (I don't think they
> did), it should continue working, but it could do things that would
> prevent it from working in a new server.
> 
> I haven't tested cards besides the radeon due to lack of time so far.
> 
> The -9 diff is up (http://people.freebsd.org/~anholt/X/files.html) and I
> haven't had any reports of problems with it so far.  If you get X 4.3.0
> working with it in the next couple of days, it would be great if people
> could mail me and mention what card, if they had to change anything from
> a 4.2.0 installation to get it to work, and briefly how they've tested
> it (i.e. started up gnome2 and did something, not just "it built" or
> "startx works")

I did a "dirty" thing and just ran the new patch on top of the
already patched system. Got some complaints that the patch was
there already, and was it OK. So I answered yes to all of it and
the patch applied on the missing parts. And since the system was
updated yesterday with the -7 patch, it was a few parts left.
XFree86-FontServer was one of them, and when I run
`portupgrade XFree86-FontServer` it does nothing, no upgrade.

Any suggestions? All the other parts are working though, except
for xdpyinfo which gives a lot of output but gives this strange
output:

# xdpyinfo
name of display:    :0.0
version number:    11.0
vendor string:    The XFree86 Project, Inc
vendor release number:    0
XFree86 version: 0.0.0
-- cut --

This is a 4.7-STABLE machine or should I say 4.8-RC which it is.

By the way /var/log/Xfree86.0.log says:

XFree86 Version 4.3.0
Release Date: 27 February 2003
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.6
Build Operating System: FreeBSD 4.8-RC i386 [ELF] 
Build Date: 05 March 2003


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On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 10:10:57AM +0100, Gunnar Flygt wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 12:52:38AM -0800, Eric Anholt wrote:
> > On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 23:36, Wes Peters wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 05 March 2003 08:57, Eric Anholt wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 07:19, Gunnar Flygt wrote:
> > > > > I find it working very fine on my troublesome 5.0-CURRENT
> > > > > box. I've had big problems for some weeks getting 4.2
> > > > > to work. I gave up the other day, but 4.3.0 worked
> > > > > straight "out of the box", if you can say so after a
> > > > > portupgrade XFree86
> > > > >
> > > > > What didn't work was the installation of XFree86-FontServer
> > > > > but I can live without that, I hope.
> > > >
> > > > Okay, got that fixed, it'll be in the -8 diff.  (got to run to class).
> > > > Thanks!
> > > 
> > > Is this working with the nvidia driver?  I gotta track down that PCI TNT2 
> > > card for my -current machine...
> > 
> > Are you talking about the binary driver?  If it's a proper XFree86
> > module and XFree86 didn't screw up compatibility (I don't think they
> > did), it should continue working, but it could do things that would
> > prevent it from working in a new server.
> > 
> > I haven't tested cards besides the radeon due to lack of time so far.
> > 
> > The -9 diff is up (http://people.freebsd.org/~anholt/X/files.html) and I
> > haven't had any reports of problems with it so far.  If you get X 4.3.0
> > working with it in the next couple of days, it would be great if people
> > could mail me and mention what card, if they had to change anything from
> > a 4.2.0 installation to get it to work, and briefly how they've tested
> > it (i.e. started up gnome2 and did something, not just "it built" or
> > "startx works")
> 
> I did a "dirty" thing and just ran the new patch on top of the
> already patched system. Got some complaints that the patch was
> there already, and was it OK. So I answered yes to all of it and
> the patch applied on the missing parts. And since the system was
> updated yesterday with the -7 patch, it was a few parts left.
> XFree86-FontServer was one of them, and when I run
> `portupgrade XFree86-FontServer` it does nothing, no upgrade.

Answering to my own question. It was much better to re-cvsup
the ports and apply the patch again. So that thing is working
and the system is updating the  XFree86-FontServer now. Sorry
for the noise. But the next thing still applies!
> 
> Any suggestions? All the other parts are working though, except
> for xdpyinfo which gives a lot of output but gives this strange
> output:
> 
> # xdpyinfo
> name of display:    :0.0
> version number:    11.0
> vendor string:    The XFree86 Project, Inc
> vendor release number:    0
> XFree86 version: 0.0.0
> -- cut --
> 
> This is a 4.7-STABLE machine or should I say 4.8-RC which it is.
> 
> By the way /var/log/Xfree86.0.log says:
> 
> XFree86 Version 4.3.0
> Release Date: 27 February 2003
> X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.6
> Build Operating System: FreeBSD 4.8-RC i386 [ELF] 
> Build Date: 05 March 2003
> 
> 
> -- 
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From: Gunnar Flygt <gunnar.flygt@sr.se>
To: Eric Anholt <eta@lclark.edu>
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On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 12:52:38AM -0800, Eric Anholt wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 23:36, Wes Peters wrote:
> > On Wednesday 05 March 2003 08:57, Eric Anholt wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 07:19, Gunnar Flygt wrote:
> > > > I find it working very fine on my troublesome 5.0-CURRENT
> > > > box. I've had big problems for some weeks getting 4.2
> > > > to work. I gave up the other day, but 4.3.0 worked
> > > > straight "out of the box", if you can say so after a
> > > > portupgrade XFree86
> > > >
> > > > What didn't work was the installation of XFree86-FontServer
> > > > but I can live without that, I hope.
> > >
> > > Okay, got that fixed, it'll be in the -8 diff.  (got to run to class).
> > > Thanks!
> > 
> > Is this working with the nvidia driver?  I gotta track down that PCI TNT2 
> > card for my -current machine...
> 
> Are you talking about the binary driver?  If it's a proper XFree86
> module and XFree86 didn't screw up compatibility (I don't think they
> did), it should continue working, but it could do things that would
> prevent it from working in a new server.
> 
> I haven't tested cards besides the radeon due to lack of time so far.
> 
> The -9 diff is up (http://people.freebsd.org/~anholt/X/files.html) and I
> haven't had any reports of problems with it so far.  If you get X 4.3.0
> working with it in the next couple of days, it would be great if people
> could mail me and mention what card, if they had to change anything from
> a 4.2.0 installation to get it to work, and briefly how they've tested
> it (i.e. started up gnome2 and did something, not just "it built" or
> "startx works")

I was a bit optimistic about the compilation of XFree86-FontServer.
This happens:

 19$ sudo portupgrade -R XFree86-FontServer
--->  Upgrading 'XFree86-FontServer-4.2.0_1' to 'XFree86-FontServer-4.3.0' (x11-servers/XFree86-4-FontServer)
--->  Building '/usr/ports/x11-servers/XFree86-4-FontServer'
===>  Cleaning for libiconv-1.8_2
===>  Cleaning for gettext-0.11.5_1
===>  Cleaning for gmake-3.80
===>  Cleaning for imake-4.3.0
===>  Cleaning for libtool-1.3.4_4
===>  Cleaning for pkgconfig-0.15.0
===>  Cleaning for freetype2-2.1.3_1
===>  Cleaning for expat-1.95.6_1
===>  Cleaning for fontconfig-2.1_5
===>  Cleaning for XFree86-libraries-4.3.0
===>  Cleaning for XFree86-FontServer-4.3.0
===>  Extracting for XFree86-FontServer-4.3.0
>> Checksum OK for xc/X430src-1.tgz.
>> Checksum OK for xc/X430src-2.tgz.
>> Checksum OK for xc/X430src-3.tgz.
===>  Patching for XFree86-FontServer-4.3.0
===>  Applying FreeBSD patches for XFree86-FontServer-4.3.0
  I can't seem to find a patch in there anywhere.
===>   Ignoring patchfile /extra/ports/x11-servers/XFree86-4-FontServer/../../x11/XFree86-4-libraries/files/patch-2.orig
  I can't seem to find a patch in there anywhere.
===>   Ignoring patchfile /extra/ports/x11-servers/XFree86-4-FontServer/../../x11/XFree86-4-libraries/files/patch-DRI.orig
Ignoring previously applied (or reversed) patch.
5 out of 5 hunks ignored--saving rejects to config/cf/FreeBSD.cf.rej
>> Patch patch-FreeBSD.cf failed to apply cleanly.
>> Patch(es) patch-2 patch-DRI applied cleanly.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /extra/ports/x11-servers/XFree86-4-FontServer.
** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portupgrade88018.3 make
** Fix the problem and try again.
** The following packages were not installed or upgraded (*:skipped / !:failed)
        ! x11-servers/XFree86-4-FontServer (XFree86-FontServer-4.2.0_1) (patch error)

> 
> -- 
> Eric Anholt                                eta@lclark.edu          
> http://people.freebsd.org/~anholt/         anholt@FreeBSD.org
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I just want to report one more good thing. I recompiled mozilla
from scratch right out of the ports directory, and it runs fine now
with Xft support and all.

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I found when reading the /var/log/XFree86.0.log

(WW) RADEON(0): [dri] Some DRI features disabled because of version mismatch.
[dri] radeon.o kernel module version is 1.1.1 but 1.3.1 or later is preferred.

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On Wed, 5 Mar 2003, Frank Tegtmeyer wrote:

FT> One problem with the DESTDIR approach may be the use of
FT> symlinks by a jail administrator - if there are symlinks set for
FT> directories containing the binaries you may overwrite the hosts
FT> directories. Maybe "make installworld" does a check for this too - I
FT> didn't look at it.

We avoid this (and the whole need to update multiple jails) by installing to
dedicated partition and the do multiple read-only null mounts, so each jail has
perfectly equal read-only /usr (with symlinks outside to /home, /local, etc)

Sincerely,
D.Marck                                   [DM5020, DM268-RIPE, DM3-RIPN]
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On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 02:02:37PM +0300, Dmitry Morozovsky wrote:
> We avoid this (and the whole need to update multiple jails) by
> installing to dedicated partition and the do multiple read-only null
> mounts, so each jail has perfectly equal read-only /usr (with symlinks
> outside to /home, /local, etc)

The rather blunt warning in the BUGS sections of the mount_null man
page[0] had put me off using it. How stable is nullfs these days?


[0] ``... NOT YET FULLY SUPPORTED (READ: IT DOESN'T WORK) ...''

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Hi, All.

I have the following trouble:

2 boxes with FreeBSD 4.8-PRERELEASE.
One just installed and cvsupped.
The other installed year and half ago, cvsupped too.

Both use the same /usr/src|/usr/obj, so the base system on them is
exactly the same.

mc-4.6.0_1 (the one with console patch) installed on both (from nfs
managed /usr/ports).

Now, meaning that I am looking to local console:

-on first it(mc) crashes to core after Ctrl-O is pressed, any command is
typed and Enter pressed or after quiting.

-on second everything is fine. If I build mc on the second without
subshell.... the things are the same - core. If I build it without
console patch - everything is just fine.

In ssh-sessions everything works good.

Any ideas ?

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On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 11:14:14AM +0000, James Raftery wrote:

> > We avoid this (and the whole need to update multiple jails) by
> > installing to dedicated partition and the do multiple read-only null
> > mounts, so each jail has perfectly equal read-only /usr (with symlinks
> > outside to /home, /local, etc)
> The rather blunt warning in the BUGS sections of the mount_null man
> page[0] had put me off using it. How stable is nullfs these days?
> [0] ``... NOT YET FULLY SUPPORTED (READ: IT DOESN'T WORK) ...''

It wass pretty stable for me. I did buildworld on it.

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Its an older dual PIII.  Can anyone tell me if the dumps point to a 
hardware issue, or if its crashing in the same spot each time ? I can blast 
it with buildworlds and it never dies.  Generally I have yet to find bad 
hardware that could pass that.... But always a first time.

	---Mike

ns4# cat /var/run/dmesg.boot
Copyright (c) 1992-2003 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
         The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 4.8-RC #0: Tue Mar  4 00:30:04 EST 2003
     mdtancsa@ns4.recycle.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/smp
Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
CPU: Intel Pentium III (801.82-MHz 686-class CPU)
   Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x683  Stepping = 3
   Features=0x383fbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE>
real memory  = 805294080 (786420K bytes)
config> q
avail memory = 779567104 (761296K bytes)
Programming 24 pins in IOAPIC #0
IOAPIC #0 intpin 2 -> irq 0
IOAPIC #0 intpin 17 -> irq 11
IOAPIC #0 intpin 18 -> irq 10
IOAPIC #0 intpin 19 -> irq 12
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor motherboard
  cpu0 (BSP): apic id:  1, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000
  cpu1 (AP):  apic id:  0, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000
  io0 (APIC): apic id:  2, version: 0x00170011, at 0xfec00000
Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc036d000.
Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc036d09c.
Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled




ns4# gdb -k /kernel.debug vmcore.1
GNU gdb 4.18 (FreeBSD)
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welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions.
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This GDB was configured as "i386-unknown-freebsd"...Deprecated bfd_read 
called at 
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/gdb/../../../../contrib/gdb/gdb/dbxread.c 
line 2627 in elfstab_build_psymtabs
Deprecated bfd_read called at 
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/gdb/../../../../contrib/gdb/gdb/dbxread.c 
line 933 in fill_symbuf

SMP 2 cpus
IdlePTD at phsyical address 0x0038c000
initial pcb at physical address 0x002ed580
panicstr: page fault
panic messages:
---
Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
mp_lock = 01000002; cpuid = 1; lapic.id = 00000000
fault virtual address   = 0x21a39de7
fault code              = supervisor read, page not present
instruction pointer     = 0x8:0xc0192a6c
stack pointer           = 0x10:0xdf0cce40
frame pointer           = 0x10:0xdf0cce5c
code segment            = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b
                         = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
processor eflags        = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0
current process         = 47978 (sendmail)
interrupt mask          =  <- SMP: XXX
trap number             = 12
panic: page fault
mp_lock = 01000002; cpuid = 1; lapic.id = 00000000
boot() called on cpu#1

syncing disks... 9
done
Uptime: 23h59m9s

dumping to dev #twed/1, offset 524312
dump 767....
---
#0  dumpsys () at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:487
487             if (dumping++) {
(kgdb) bt
#0  dumpsys () at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:487
#1  0xc0155878 in boot (howto=256) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:316
#2  0xc0155ce0 in poweroff_wait (junk=0xc02c0d19, howto=-1070856209) at 
/usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:595
#3  0xc0283d71 in trap_fatal (frame=0xdf0cce00, eva=564370919) at 
/usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:974
#4  0xc02839e9 in trap_pfault (frame=0xdf0cce00, usermode=0, eva=564370919) 
at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:867
#5  0xc0283547 in trap (frame={tf_fs = -1071120360, tf_es = -1071316976, 
tf_ds = 1862270992, tf_edi = -1011810875,
       tf_esi = -1027661403, tf_ebp = -552808868, tf_isp = -552808916, 
tf_ebx = 564370919, tf_edx = -1027661369,
       tf_ecx = -1027661371, tf_eax = 28, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 0, 
tf_eip = -1072092564, tf_cs = 8, tf_eflags = 66054,
       tf_esp = 13568, tf_ss = -1011810880}) at 
/usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:466
#6  0xc0192a6c in ifa_ifwithnet (addr=0xc3b0fdc0) at /usr/src/sys/net/if.c:611
#7  0xc01b6e05 in in_pcbladdr (inp=0xdb947c00, nam=0xc3b0fdc0, 
plocal_sin=0xdf0cce94) at /usr/src/sys/netinet/in_pcb.c:459
#8  0xc01b6ef3 in in_pcbconnect (inp=0xdb947c00, nam=0xc3b0fdc0, 
p=0xdeb184e0) at /usr/src/sys/netinet/in_pcb.c:526
#9  0xc01cc7e9 in udp_connect (so=0xdb705300, nam=0xc3b0fdc0, p=0xdeb184e0) 
at /usr/src/sys/netinet/udp_usrreq.c:866
#10 0xc0174a54 in soconnect (so=0xdb705300, nam=0xc3b0fdc0, p=0xdeb184e0) 
at /usr/src/sys/kern/uipc_socket.c:389
#11 0xc0178118 in connect (p=0xdeb184e0, uap=0xdf0ccf80) at 
/usr/src/sys/kern/uipc_syscalls.c:394
#12 0xc02840b5 in syscall2 (frame={tf_fs = -1078001617, tf_es = 47, tf_ds = 
-1078001617, tf_edi = 135487488, tf_esi = 44,
       tf_ebp = -1077948752, tf_isp = -552808492, tf_ebx = 673944780, 
tf_edx = 0, tf_ecx = 0, tf_eax = 98, tf_trapno = 12,
       tf_err = 2, tf_eip = 673621160, tf_cs = 31, tf_eflags = 663, tf_esp 
= -1077949420, tf_ss = 47})
     at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:1175
#13 0xc027085b in Xint0x80_syscall ()
cannot read proc at 0
(kgdb) q
ns4# gdb -k /kernel.debug vmcore.2
GNU gdb 4.18 (FreeBSD)
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This GDB was configured as "i386-unknown-freebsd"...Deprecated bfd_read 
called at 
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/gdb/../../../../contrib/gdb/gdb/dbxread.c 
line 2627 in elfstab_build_psymtabs
Deprecated bfd_read called at 
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/gdb/../../../../contrib/gdb/gdb/dbxread.c 
line 933 in fill_symbuf

SMP 2 cpus
IdlePTD at phsyical address 0x0038c000
initial pcb at physical address 0x002ed580
panicstr: page fault
panic messages:
---
Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
mp_lock = 00000002; cpuid = 0; lapic.id = 01000000
fault virtual address   = 0x918c2b2c
fault code              = supervisor read, page not present
instruction pointer     = 0x8:0xc0192a6c
stack pointer           = 0x10:0xde73fe40
frame pointer           = 0x10:0xde73fe5c
code segment            = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b
                         = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
processor eflags        = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0
current process         = 39324 (sendmail)
interrupt mask          =  <- SMP: XXX
trap number             = 12
panic: page fault
mp_lock = 00000002; cpuid = 0; lapic.id = 01000000
boot() called on cpu#0

syncing disks... 17 1
done
Uptime: 23h59m31s

dumping to dev #twed/1, offset 524312
dump 767 .....
---
#0  dumpsys () at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:487
487             if (dumping++) {
(kgdb) bt
#0  dumpsys () at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:487
#1  0xc0155878 in boot (howto=256) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:316
#2  0xc0155ce0 in poweroff_wait (junk=0xc02c0d19, howto=-1070856209) at 
/usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:595
#3  0xc0283d71 in trap_fatal (frame=0xde73fe00, eva=2441882412) at 
/usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:974
#4  0xc02839e9 in trap_pfault (frame=0xde73fe00, usermode=0, 
eva=2441882412) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:867
#5  0xc0283547 in trap (frame={tf_fs = -1071316968, tf_es = 1644167184, 
tf_ds = -613351408, tf_edi = -1027617851,
       tf_esi = -1027665755, tf_ebp = -562823588, tf_isp = -562823636, 
tf_ebx = -1853084884, tf_edx = -1027665721,
       tf_ecx = -1027665723, tf_eax = 28, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 0, 
tf_eip = -1072092564, tf_cs = 8, tf_eflags = 66178,
       tf_esp = 13568, tf_ss = -1027617856}) at 
/usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:466
#6  0xc0192a6c in ifa_ifwithnet (addr=0xc2bfcbc0) at /usr/src/sys/net/if.c:611
#7  0xc01b6e05 in in_pcbladdr (inp=0xdb940880, nam=0xc2bfcbc0, 
plocal_sin=0xde73fe94) at /usr/src/sys/netinet/in_pcb.c:459
#8  0xc01b6ef3 in in_pcbconnect (inp=0xdb940880, nam=0xc2bfcbc0, 
p=0xde759c60) at /usr/src/sys/netinet/in_pcb.c:526
#9  0xc01cc7e9 in udp_connect (so=0xdb718d40, nam=0xc2bfcbc0, p=0xde759c60) 
at /usr/src/sys/netinet/udp_usrreq.c:866
#10 0xc0174a54 in soconnect (so=0xdb718d40, nam=0xc2bfcbc0, p=0xde759c60) 
at /usr/src/sys/kern/uipc_socket.c:389
#11 0xc0178118 in connect (p=0xde759c60, uap=0xde73ff80) at 
/usr/src/sys/kern/uipc_syscalls.c:394
#12 0xc02840b5 in syscall2 (frame={tf_fs = 47, tf_es = 47, tf_ds = 47, 
tf_edi = -1077989504, tf_esi = 40, tf_ebp = -1078002064,
       tf_isp = -562823212, tf_ebx = 673944780, tf_edx = 0, tf_ecx = 0, 
tf_eax = 98, tf_trapno = 7, tf_err = 2, tf_eip = 673621160,
       tf_cs = 31, tf_eflags = 663, tf_esp = -1078002732, tf_ss = 47}) at 
/usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:1175
#13 0xc027085b in Xint0x80_syscall ()
#14 0x2827f651 in ?? ()
#15 0x2827fb46 in ?? ()
#16 0x8062a75 in ?? ()
#17 0x807177b in ?? ()
#18 0x8058169 in ?? ()
#19 0x80811bc in ?? ()
#20 0x8080c42 in ?? ()
#21 0x8081079 in ?? ()
#22 0x8080e0d in ?? ()
#23 0x807f22c in ?? ()
#24 0x8064732 in ?? ()
#25 0x809b769 in ?? ()
#26 0x806e49a in ?? ()
#27 0x804c03a in ?? ()
(kgdb)
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On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, James Raftery wrote:

JR> > We avoid this (and the whole need to update multiple jails) by
JR> > installing to dedicated partition and the do multiple read-only null
JR> > mounts, so each jail has perfectly equal read-only /usr (with symlinks
JR> > outside to /home, /local, etc)
JR>
JR> The rather blunt warning in the BUGS sections of the mount_null man
JR> page[0] had put me off using it. How stable is nullfs these days?
JR>
JR>
JR> [0] ``... NOT YET FULLY SUPPORTED (READ: IT DOESN'T WORK) ...''

I've heard about deadlocks and other bad things with read-write nullfs-es;
however, read-only null mounts works flawlessly (at least for us, and we do not
stress our system like scrappy@hub.org ;-)))

Sincerely,
D.Marck                                   [DM5020, DM268-RIPE, DM3-RIPN]
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Hi Eric.

On 06 Mar 2003 00:52:38 -0800
Eric Anholt <eta@lclark.edu> wrote:
> The -9 diff is up (http://people.freebsd.org/~anholt/X/files.html) and I
> haven't had any reports of problems with it so far.  If you get X 4.3.0
> working with it in the next couple of days, it would be great if people
> could mail me and mention what card, if they had to change anything from
> a 4.2.0 installation to get it to work, and briefly how they've tested
> it (i.e. started up gnome2 and did something, not just "it built" or
> "startx works")

	I tested -9 diff and I think mostly good works.  In my environment
	2 problems have in pkg-plist(in Makefile MAN[14]= problem).

	XFree86-clients-4.3.0:
		man/man1/xieperf.1 is not found.
	XFree86-Server-4.3.0:
		man/man4/keyboard.4 is not found.

	You removed xieperf in pkg-plist, so I think no need xieperf.1.
	I don't know keyboard.4:-).

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Hi,

I cannot playback music from audio CD via atapicam using cdcontrol
in 4.8-RC while mounting of iso9660 data CD works well.  
Is it a spec. of atapicam ? 

I have two CD drives; one is cd0 on ahc0, the other is cd1 on ata1.
I can playback music from cd0, real SCSI device, but cd1, pseudo
SCSI device via atapicam.  

cdcontrol can get info from CD as follows.  

# cdcontrol -f /dev/cd1c
Compact Disc Control utility, version 2.0
Type `?' for command list

cdcontrol> info
Starting track = 1, ending track = 14, TOC size = 122 bytes
track     start  duration   block  length   type
-------------------------------------------------
    1   0:02.00   4:09.15       0   18690  audio
    2   4:11.15   4:02.07   18690   18157  audio
    3   8:13.22   4:03.30   36847   18255  audio
    4  12:16.52   4:06.70   55102   18520  audio
    5  16:23.47   3:49.48   73622   17223  audio
    6  20:13.20   3:49.05   90845   17180  audio
    7  24:02.25   5:00.20  108025   22520  audio
    8  29:02.45   3:52.37  130545   17437  audio
    9  32:55.07   4:13.25  147982   19000  audio
   10  37:08.32   4:38.08  166982   20858  audio
   11  41:46.40   3:54.17  187840   17567  audio
   12  45:40.57   3:44.63  205407   16863  audio
   13  49:25.45   4:22.22  222270   19672  audio
   14  53:47.67   4:11.15  241942   18840  audio
  170  57:59.07         -  260782       -      -

But its play command does not work.  

cdcontrol> play
cdcontrol: Invalid argument
cdcontrol> play 1
cdcontrol: Invalid argument
cdcontrol> play 2
cdcontrol: Invalid argument

The above operations make the following messages in
/var/log/messages without any playbacked sound.  

Mar  6 21:23:59 mi000 /kernel: (cd1:ata1:0:0:0): MODE SELECT(06). CDB: 15 10 0 0 1c 0 
Mar  6 21:23:59 mi000 /kernel: (cd1:ata1:0:0:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:1a,0
Mar  6 21:23:59 mi000 /kernel: (cd1:ata1:0:0:0): Parameter list length error
Mar  6 21:24:11 mi000 /kernel: (cd1:ata1:0:0:0): MODE SELECT(06). CDB: 15 10 0 0 1c 0 
Mar  6 21:24:11 mi000 /kernel: (cd1:ata1:0:0:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:1a,0
Mar  6 21:24:11 mi000 /kernel: (cd1:ata1:0:0:0): Parameter list length error
Mar  6 21:24:26 mi000 /kernel: (cd1:ata1:0:0:0): MODE SELECT(06). CDB: 15 10 0 0 1c 0 
Mar  6 21:24:26 mi000 /kernel: (cd1:ata1:0:0:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:1a,0
Mar  6 21:24:26 mi000 /kernel: (cd1:ata1:0:0:0): Parameter list length error

Followings are my evironment.  

% uname -a
FreeBSD mi000.merlin.gs.niigata-u.ac.jp 4.8-RC FreeBSD 4.8-RC #0:
Thu Mar  6 00:35:31 JST 2003
root@mi000.merlin.gs.niigata-u.ac.jp:/usr1/obj/usr/src/sys/MI  i386

% dmesg | grep 'ata\|ahc\|cd'
    root@mi000.merlin.gs.niigata-u.ac.jp:/usr1/obj/usr/src/sys/MI
atapci0: <Intel PIIX3 ATA controller> port 0xefa0-0xefaf at device 7.1 on pci0
ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0
ahc0: <Adaptec 3940 Ultra SCSI adapter> port 0xf800-0xf8ff mem 0xff9fe000-0xff9fefff irq 11 at device 4.0 on pci1
ahc1: <Adaptec 3940 Ultra SCSI adapter> port 0xfc00-0xfcff mem 0xff9ff000-0xff9fffff irq 11 at device 5.0 on pci1
ata2: <Generic ESDI/IDE/ATA controller> at port 0x168-0x16f,0x36e-0x36f irq 10 on isa0
ata1-slave: ATAPI identify retries exceeded
ad0: 3681MB <QUANTUM FIREBALL_TM3840A> [7480/16/63] at ata0-master WDMA2
ad1: 28629MB <ST330621A> [58168/16/63] at ata0-slave WDMA2
sa0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0
da1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
da0 at ahc1 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
cd1 at ata1 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
cd1: <MITSUMI CD-ROM FX120T !B b04A> Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device 
cd1: 11.000MB/s transfers
cd1: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present
cd0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 6 lun 0
cd0: <SONY CD-ROM CDU-76S 1.1c> Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device 
cd0: 5.681MB/s transfers (5.681MHz, offset 15)
cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present

% camcontrol devlist
<SAMSUNG WN34324U (gm030) 0105>    at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 (pass0,da1)
<WangDAT Model 3400DX 125F>        at scbus0 target 4 lun 0 (pass1,sa0)
<SONY CD-ROM CDU-76S 1.1c>         at scbus0 target 6 lun 0 (pass2,cd0)
<QUANTUM FIREBALL_TM3200S 300X>    at scbus1 target 0 lun 0 (pass3,da0)
<MITSUMI CD-ROM FX120T !B b04A>    at scbus4 target 0 lun 0 (pass4,cd1)
---
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Mamoru IWAKI   (iwaki@bc.niigata-u.ac.jp)
Graduate School of Science and Technology, Niigata University

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On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 10:32:12AM +0100, Gunnar Flygt wrote:
> I just want to report one more good thing. I recompiled mozilla
> from scratch right out of the ports directory, and it runs fine now
> with Xft support and all.

Again I have to reply to my own answer. The good thing is still
good, but only on one of the 3 systems I test 4.3.0 on.

The system working OK is a newly installed laptop which runs
5.0-CURRENT. The second system is an ordinary desktop 1.4GHz
Dell, which runs 4.7-STABLE. Here mozilla behaves as earlier
described. The info "No Windows found" is shown and then I get
the prompt back again. No mozilla started. I'm trying a recompile
of Xft using `portupgrade -r -f Xft` to see if this makes any
difference.

But at least XFree86 4.3.0 runs fine.

-- 
Gunnar Flygt, SR

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>
>
> On 06 Mar 2003 00:52:38 -0800
> Eric Anholt  wrote:
>
> >The -9 diff is up (http://people.freebsd.org/~anholt/X/files.html) and I
> >haven't had any reports of problems with it so far.  If you get X 4.3.0
> >working with it in the next couple of days, it would be great if people
> >could mail me and mention what card, if they had to change anything from
> >a 4.2.0 installation to get it to work, and briefly how they've tested
> >it (i.e. started up gnome2 and did something, not just "it built" or
> >"startx works")


I am building kde3 with X 4.3.0.  One problem is that installation of kdelibs3 
has the line
RUN_DEPENDS=   ${FONTSCALE}:${PORTSDIR}/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-fontScalable \
where
FONTSCALE=      ${X11BASE}/lib/X11/fonts/PEX/Roman.phont
But x11-fonts/XFree86-4-fontScalable does not install 
${X11BASE}/lib/X11/fonts/PEX/* in X 4.3.0.  Is PEX/Roman.phont required for 
kde3, or is it just a convenient way to make sure that this dependency is loaded?



-- 
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stephen@math.missouri.edu
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Eugene M. Zheganin wrote:
> 
> Hi, All.
> 
> I have the following trouble:
> 
> 2 boxes with FreeBSD 4.8-PRERELEASE.
> One just installed and cvsupped.
> The other installed year and half ago, cvsupped too.
> 
> Both use the same /usr/src|/usr/obj, so the base system on them is
> exactly the same.
> 
> mc-4.6.0_1 (the one with console patch) installed on both (from nfs
> managed /usr/ports).
> 
> Now, meaning that I am looking to local console:
> 
> -on first it(mc) crashes to core after Ctrl-O is pressed, any command is
> typed and Enter pressed or after quiting.
> 
> -on second everything is fine. If I build mc on the second without
> subshell.... the things are the same - core. If I build it without
> console patch - everything is just fine.
> 
> In ssh-sessions everything works good.
> 
> Any ideas ?

Update to mc-4.6.0_2. Everything would be fine.

-- 
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The main thing is that Gnome 2.2 and KDE 3.1.x works fine with Xfree86
v4.3.x. This is the usual 'customer experience' since many people use
FreeBSD as a desktop OS as well as a server.

Great job. Mostly what I have an issue with is KDE or Gnome related. I have
to review the Fonts/Fontserver to make sure no old issues still exist!
~Ken


----- Original Message -----
From: "Gunnar Flygt" <gunnar.flygt@sr.se>
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> On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 10:32:12AM +0100, Gunnar Flygt wrote:
> > I just want to report one more good thing. I recompiled mozilla
> > from scratch right out of the ports directory, and it runs fine now
> > with Xft support and all.
>
> Again I have to reply to my own answer. The good thing is still
> good, but only on one of the 3 systems I test 4.3.0 on.
>
> The system working OK is a newly installed laptop which runs
> 5.0-CURRENT. The second system is an ordinary desktop 1.4GHz
> Dell, which runs 4.7-STABLE. Here mozilla behaves as earlier
> described. The info "No Windows found" is shown and then I get
> the prompt back again. No mozilla started. I'm trying a recompile
> of Xft using `portupgrade -r -f Xft` to see if this makes any
> difference.
>
> But at least XFree86 4.3.0 runs fine.
>
> --
> Gunnar Flygt, SR
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On Sat, 01-Mar-2003 at 10:49:34 +0100, Francesco Casadei wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 12:50:31AM +0100, Joan Picanyol i Puig wrote:
> > [reposted from -scsi@, maybe that's not the right place]
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > On an Adaptec 2940 I have an IBM DNES-309170W and a SEAGATE ST318438LW,
> > soft-raided with vinum. Lately it seems that the Seagate disc has become
> > 'unstable', and I don't know how to diagnose any further. I've checked
> > the cabling and I've tried the SeaTools floppy disk from Seagate but it
> > hangs on my system :( 
> > 
> > Please have a look at the excerpt of kernel logs at
> > http://biaix.org/pk/debug/. messages.1.kernel shows what happened (look
> > for Feb 4) while recording a cd with my SCSI cd-writer. The system
> > appeared to hang for anything between 3 and 20 minutes while I was
> > getting those.  messages.0.kernel shows what happened today (Feb 27) for
> > no apparent reason. Problems persisted across reboots, even though some
> > of them were not logged (could not fsck).
> > 
> > For further reference, please look at this thread from two months ago:
> > http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=2329637+0+/usr/local/www/db/text/2002/freebsd-questions/20021222.freebsd-questions
> > 
> > I'm really stumped so I'd appreciate any help in the lines of:
> > 
> > 1.- What's causing these problems?
> > 2.- How can I solve them?
> > 
> > tks
> > -- 
> > pica
> > 
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> > end of the original message
> 
> I'm having this problem too. When this happens the SCSI bus is reset. Here's
> the error message (not wrapped):
>
> ...
> 
> Here's the system configuration:
> 
> # camcontrol devlist
> <IBM DDRS-34560W S92A>             at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 (pass0,da0)
> <IBM DNES-318350W SA30>            at scbus0 target 1 lun 0 (pass1,da1)
> <TEAC CD-R55S 1.0R>                at scbus0 target 2 lun 0 (pass2,cd0)
> <PLEXTOR CD-ROM PX-32TS 1.02>      at scbus0 target 3 lun 0 (pass3,cd1)

(I assume the cabling/termination has been checked already.)

I had bus problems with my DNES until I upgraded the firmware to:

da2: <IBM DNES-318350W SAH0> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device 

In general, I have often seen bus problems when a lot of different
devices are hanging on the same SCSI bus and some drives are being
hit really hard. They always went away with a new fw, especially
on my IBM DDYS drives. The Plextor fw seems a bit old as well (at
least compared to my PLEXTOR CD-ROM PX-40TS 1.13) but I don't know
if the 32TS uses the same as the 40TS.

I have written a program to upgrade the firmware on IBM and Plextor
(and some other devices) under FreeBSD in case you are interested...
However, IMO one should play with the fw only in case of problems
and not just to get lastest version...

	-Andre

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Hello, stable!
Basing on security advisory SA-03:02.openssl I was upgraded to RELENG_4 successfully at Feb 27 14:02 (from 4.6-stable with appling previously issuedpatches).
Rebuilding "Squid-2.5stable1" caused the following error
(before upgrade squid has been build without errors so I've decided to mail FreeBSD first):
-----------------------
Making all in lib
Making all in snmplib
Making all in scripts
Making all in src
make  all-recursive
Making all in fs
Making all in repl
Making all in auth
Making all in basic
Making all in digest
Making all in ntlm
source='ssl_support.c' object='ssl_support.o' libtool=no
depfile='.deps/ssl_support.Po' tmpdepfile='.deps/ssl_support.TPo'  depmode=gcc /bin/sh
../cfgaux/depco
mp

gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DEFAULT_CONFIG_FILE=\"/usr/local/squid/etc/squid.conf\
" -I. -I. -I../include -I. -I. -I../include -I../include     -g -O2 -Wall -c
`test -f ssl_support.c || echo './'`ssl_support.c
ssl_support.c:141: `SSL_OP_NON_EXPORT_FIRST' undeclared here (not in a
function)

ssl_support.c:141: initializer element is not constant
ssl_support.c:141: (near initialization for `ssl_options[15].value')
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/distfiles/squid-2.5.STABLE1/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/distfiles/squid-2.5.STABLE1/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/distfiles/squid-2.5.STABLE1/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/distfiles/squid-2.5.STABLE1.
---------------------

Does it resolvable?

There are my squid's configure options:
./configure     \
        --enable-gnurexec       \
        --enable-splaytree      \
        --enable-xmalloc-debug  \
        --enable-xmalloc-debug-trace    \
        --enable-xmalloc-statistics     \
        --enable-carp   \
        --enable-icmp   \
        --enable-delay-pools    \
        --enable-mem-gen-trace  \
        --enable-useragent-log  \
        --enable-referer-log    \
        --enable-kill-parent-hack       \
        --enable-snmp   \
        --enable-cachemgr-hostname      \
        --enable-httc   \
        --enable-ssl    \
        --with-openssl  \
        --enable-forw-via-db    \
        --enable-default-err-language=Russian-koi8-r    \
        --enable-err-languages="Russian-koi8-r Russian-1251 English"    \
        --disable-poll  \
        --disable-http-violations       \
        --enable-ipf-transparent        \
        --enable-auth="basic digest ntlm"       \
        --enable-basic-auth-helpers="MSNT NCSA PAM SMB YP       \
                 getpwnam multi-domain-NTLM winbind"    \
        --enable-ntlm-auth-helpers="SMB fakeauth no_check winbind"      \
        --enable-digest-auth-helpers="password" \
        --enable-external-acl-helpers="ip_user unix_group       \
                wbinfo_group winbind_group"

Best regards, Illia Baidakov.


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> Its an older dual PIII.  Can anyone tell me if the dumps point to a 
> hardware issue, or if its crashing in the same spot each time ? I can blast 
> it with buildworlds and it never dies.  Generally I have yet to find bad 
> hardware that could pass that.... But always a first time.

I have a P6DGH with two PII/300's running 4.8-RC2; mptable crashes with
a "HOSED" error message for the extended table (indicative of a BIOS
problems) but no crashes.

MLS

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At 10:45 AM 06/03/2003 -0500, Michael L. Squires wrote:
> > Its an older dual PIII.  Can anyone tell me if the dumps point to a
> > hardware issue, or if its crashing in the same spot each time ? I can 
> blast
> > it with buildworlds and it never dies.  Generally I have yet to find bad
> > hardware that could pass that.... But always a first time.
>
>I have a P6DGH with two PII/300's running 4.8-RC2; mptable crashes with
>a "HOSED" error message for the extended table (indicative of a BIOS
>problems) but no crashes.


A BIOS problem ?  In what way ?

         ---Mike 


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On Thursday 06 March 2003 00:52, Eric Anholt wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 23:36, Wes Peters wrote:
> > On Wednesday 05 March 2003 08:57, Eric Anholt wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 07:19, Gunnar Flygt wrote:
> > > > I find it working very fine on my troublesome 5.0-CURRENT
> > > > box. I've had big problems for some weeks getting 4.2
> > > > to work. I gave up the other day, but 4.3.0 worked
> > > > straight "out of the box", if you can say so after a
> > > > portupgrade XFree86
> > > >
> > > > What didn't work was the installation of XFree86-FontServer
> > > > but I can live without that, I hope.
> > >
> > > Okay, got that fixed, it'll be in the -8 diff.  (got to run to
> > > class). Thanks!
> >
> > Is this working with the nvidia driver?  I gotta track down that
> > PCI TNT2 card for my -current machine...
>
> Are you talking about the binary driver?  If it's a proper XFree86
> module and XFree86 didn't screw up compatibility (I don't think they
> did), it should continue working, but it could do things that would
> prevent it from working in a new server.
>
> I haven't tested cards besides the radeon due to lack of time so far.
>
> The -9 diff is up (http://people.freebsd.org/~anholt/X/files.html)
> and I haven't had any reports of problems with it so far.  If you get
> X 4.3.0 working with it in the next couple of days, it would be great
> if people could mail me and mention what card, if they had to change
> anything from a 4.2.0 installation to get it to work, and briefly how
> they've tested it (i.e. started up gnome2 and did something, not just
> "it built" or "startx works")

I'll give it a whirl.  Probably not until the weekend though.

-- 
         "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?"

Wes Peters                                              wes@softweyr.com



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I have had simular experiances with this very phenominom under 3.X, altho=
ugh I=20
have only ever seen it when you fill the partition ie 101% used and it on=
ly=20
happens on partitions with softupdates.


On Wednesday 05 March 2003 16:53, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> I rebooted my server 20hrs ago, and had 20gig of free space ... now I'm
> down to 4.6gig ...
>
> venus# df -t ufs
> Filesystem    1K-blocks     Used   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
> /dev/amrd0s1a 103777974 90836532 4639206    95%    /
>
> Before I rebooted it 20hrs ago, it had drop'd down <500Meg, and after t=
he
> reboot, pop'd back up to 20gig ...
>
> I can't seem to find where 16gig of disk space is being used though, bu=
t,
> for instance, I had 12gig of files in /var/vmcore (from crash dumps) th=
at
> I removed, which should have increased me to 16gig free, but I'm still =
at
> 4.6gig and drop'ng ...
>
> The system isn't particularly busy:
>
> venus# iostat 5
>       tty           amrd0             cpu
>  tin tout  KB/t tps  MB/s  us ni sy in id
>    1  116  0.00   0  0.00  32  0 28  1 40
>    1  452  4.29 343  1.43  39  0 52  0  9
>    0  225  5.21 258  1.31  32  0 47  1 21
>    2   35  6.21 270  1.64  13  0 51  0 36
>    1   38  4.46 268  1.17  19  0 49  1 31
>    1   32  4.81 261  1.23  16  0 51  1 32
>
> And the drive is 7x18gig in a RAID5 configuration ..
>
> OS is 4.8-RC FreeBSD 4.8-RC #38: Tue Mar  4 22:43:18 CST 2003 with a pa=
tch
> from Tor Egge to fix a problem with how vnodes are kept track of and
> reclaimed/reused ...
>
> I've tried doing a 'sync', figuring that maybe it would force all
> outstanding writes to the drive, but that seems to make no difference
> either ...
>
> I'm doing a du right now to see if I can see anything large out of the
> ordinary, but is there any way (maybe using lsof?) of finding out what,
> if any, processes are holding open a large file?
>
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On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 05:31, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 06 Mar 2003 00:52:38 -0800
> > Eric Anholt  wrote:
> >
> > >The -9 diff is up (http://people.freebsd.org/~anholt/X/files.html) and I
> > >haven't had any reports of problems with it so far.  If you get X 4.3.0
> > >working with it in the next couple of days, it would be great if people
> > >could mail me and mention what card, if they had to change anything from
> > >a 4.2.0 installation to get it to work, and briefly how they've tested
> > >it (i.e. started up gnome2 and did something, not just "it built" or
> > >"startx works")
> 
> 
> I am building kde3 with X 4.3.0.  One problem is that installation of kdelibs3 
> has the line
> RUN_DEPENDS=   ${FONTSCALE}:${PORTSDIR}/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-fontScalable \
> where
> FONTSCALE=      ${X11BASE}/lib/X11/fonts/PEX/Roman.phont
> But x11-fonts/XFree86-4-fontScalable does not install 
> ${X11BASE}/lib/X11/fonts/PEX/* in X 4.3.0.  Is PEX/Roman.phont required for 
> kde3, or is it just a convenient way to make sure that this dependency is loaded?

That was the dependency that the XFree86-4 port used for the
fontScalable package, so I assume it was a copy and paste.  For that one
I switched to one of the truetype fonts.

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On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 01:38, Gunnar Flygt wrote:
> I found when reading the /var/log/XFree86.0.log
> 
> (WW) RADEON(0): [dri] Some DRI features disabled because of version mismatch.
> [dri] radeon.o kernel module version is 1.1.1 but 1.3.1 or later is preferred.

The DRI should still work fine, you just won't have some of the extra
features that are in 4.3.0 (TCL and sync-to-vblank for example).  I'm
working on the DRM update for -current, which should be done RSN, and
then I'll MFC it after the freeze.

For those remembering last time I said this, I was never able to track
down what in the new DRM caused problems with 4.2.0 X installations with
the new DRM, so I never committed it.

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Dmitry Morozovsky <marck@rinet.ru> writes:

> On Wed, 5 Mar 2003, Frank Tegtmeyer wrote:
> 
> FT> One problem with the DESTDIR approach may be the use of
> FT> symlinks by a jail administrator - if there are symlinks set for
> FT> directories containing the binaries you may overwrite the hosts
> FT> directories. Maybe "make installworld" does a check for this too - I
> FT> didn't look at it.
> 
> We avoid this (and the whole need to update multiple jails) by installing to
> dedicated partition and the do multiple read-only null mounts, so each jail has
> perfectly equal read-only /usr (with symlinks outside to /home, /local, etc)

I'm probably misreading this as I'm only just starting to look at the
jail facilities but are you saying symlinks from inside a jail to
outside it work within the jail? Doesn't that defeat the entire point?
Or are you saying /usr/local is e.g. a symlink to /local and you have
a different /local per jail and one for the host as well?

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> > Trying to upgrade from 4.4-20020114-STABLE to 4.7-R-p7.  /usr isn't big
> > enough but /var is so:
> >
> > lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  - 8 Mar  4 12:28 /usr/obj@ -> /var/obj
> > lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  - 8 Mar  4 12:28 /usr/src@ -> /var/src
> >
> > Ran mergemaster.sh -p, but for 2 buildworlds it fails with:
> >
> > /var/src/lib/libutil/login_times.c: In function `in_lts':
> > /var/src/lib/libutil/login_times.c:159: warning: passing arg 2 of
> `in_ltms'
> > makes pointer from integer without a cast
> > *** Error code 1
> > Stop in /var/src/lib/libutil.
> > *** Error code 1

> > Any ideas?
> >
>
>  yes, two:

> system....and if you want to have really fresh system you ought to make a
> many step updating...I mean.....
> update it to 4.5 then 4.6 and to newest STABLE.... many mechanisms in
> compiling had changed, so updating from 4.4 =>> 4.7 wouldn;t be
> good fo you,
> because make buildworld is no only to use make, gcc and install
> -C but many
> many others programs.

Thanks for the reply--I'm not sure what the actually problem was.  The only
sources on this machine were kernel sources in /sys--when /usr/src/ was
completely removed and re-cvsup'ed, the buildworld went find and the upgrade
was successful.

Regards,

Riley


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* Andre Albsmeier <andre.albsmeier@siemens.com> [20030306 15:32]:
> On Sat, 01-Mar-2003 at 10:49:34 +0100, Francesco Casadei wrote:
> (I assume the cabling/termination has been checked already.)
Yep, I also run the controler's BIOS drive check on the drives.

> I had bus problems with my DNES until I upgraded the firmware to:
> 
> da2: <IBM DNES-318350W SAH0> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device 
> 
> In general, I have often seen bus problems when a lot of different
> devices are hanging on the same SCSI bus and some drives are being
> hit really hard.
That could be my case: 2 drives 1 cdrw, cd burning and compiling (if
that qualifies as 'really hard'.

> I have written a program to upgrade the firmware on IBM and Plextor
> (and some other devices) under FreeBSD in case you are interested...
Does it work for Seagate drives?

(20:29:52 <~>) 0 $ camcontrol devlist
<SEAGATE ST318438LW 0003>          at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 (pass0,da0)
<YAMAHA CRW2100S 1.0G>             at scbus0 target 2 lun 0 (pass1,cd0)
<IBM DNES-309170W SA30>            at scbus0 target 6 lun 0 (pass2,da1)

qvb
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On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 03:33:55PM +0100, Andre Albsmeier wrote:
> (I assume the cabling/termination has been checked already.)
>=20
> I had bus problems with my DNES until I upgraded the firmware to:
>=20
> da2: <IBM DNES-318350W SAH0> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device=20
>=20
> In general, I have often seen bus problems when a lot of different
> devices are hanging on the same SCSI bus and some drives are being
> hit really hard. They always went away with a new fw, especially
> on my IBM DDYS drives. The Plextor fw seems a bit old as well (at
> least compared to my PLEXTOR CD-ROM PX-40TS 1.13) but I don't know
> if the 32TS uses the same as the 40TS.
>=20
> I have written a program to upgrade the firmware on IBM and Plextor
> (and some other devices) under FreeBSD in case you are interested...
> However, IMO one should play with the fw only in case of problems
> and not just to get lastest version...
>=20
> 	-Andre
>=20
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I'm having SCSI-related problems on the home PC, which has run fine for thr=
ee
years now whithout being hardware-upgraded. I update the system on a regular
basis, though (last buildworld/installword was on Thu Dec 26 2002).
The IBM drive fitness test showed that hard drives are ok. The error seems =
to
appear randomly, whithout particular conditions (load avg, used mem, progra=
ms
running, etc.).
A couple of days ago the SCSI bus has been reset five consecutive times! Is=
 it
time to change my AHA2940 or this has nothing to do with the SCSI controlle=
r?

	Francesco Casadei
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On Thu, 06 Mar 2003 08:46:07 -0800
Darcy Buskermolen <darcy@wavefire.com> wrote:

> 
> I have had simular experiances with this very phenominom under 3.X,
> although I have only ever seen it when you fill the partition ie 101%
> used and it only happens on partitions with softupdates.
> 

I do not mean to state the obvious, but have you tried to
look for open files on the partition, especially ones that have
been deleted but are still held open by the process?  lsof will
give you a list.  I am just mentioning it because it has got me
in the past.  You could also try turning off daemon processes
one at a time and see if that helps.

Good luck

marc 

> 
> On Wednesday 05 March 2003 16:53, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> > I rebooted my server 20hrs ago, and had 20gig of free space ... now
> > I'm down to 4.6gig ...
> >
> > venus# df -t ufs
> > Filesystem    1K-blocks     Used   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
> > /dev/amrd0s1a 103777974 90836532 4639206    95%    /
> >
> > Before I rebooted it 20hrs ago, it had drop'd down <500Meg, and
> > after the reboot, pop'd back up to 20gig ...
> >
> > I can't seem to find where 16gig of disk space is being used though,
> > but, for instance, I had 12gig of files in /var/vmcore (from crash
> > dumps) that I removed, which should have increased me to 16gig free,
> > but I'm still at 4.6gig and drop'ng ...
> >
> > The system isn't particularly busy:
> >
> > venus# iostat 5
> >       tty           amrd0             cpu
> >  tin tout  KB/t tps  MB/s  us ni sy in id
> >    1  116  0.00   0  0.00  32  0 28  1 40
> >    1  452  4.29 343  1.43  39  0 52  0  9
> >    0  225  5.21 258  1.31  32  0 47  1 21
> >    2   35  6.21 270  1.64  13  0 51  0 36
> >    1   38  4.46 268  1.17  19  0 49  1 31
> >    1   32  4.81 261  1.23  16  0 51  1 32
> >
> > And the drive is 7x18gig in a RAID5 configuration ..
> >
> > OS is 4.8-RC FreeBSD 4.8-RC #38: Tue Mar  4 22:43:18 CST 2003 with a
> > patch from Tor Egge to fix a problem with how vnodes are kept track
> > of and reclaimed/reused ...
> >
> > I've tried doing a 'sync', figuring that maybe it would force all
> > outstanding writes to the drive, but that seems to make no
> > difference either ...
> >
> > I'm doing a du right now to see if I can see anything large out of
> > the ordinary, but is there any way (maybe using lsof?) of finding
> > out what, if any, processes are holding open a large file?
> >
> > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org
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> 
> -- 
> Darcy Buskermolen
> Wavefire Technologies Corp.
> ph: 250.717.0200
> fx:  250.763.1759
> http://www.wavefire.com
> 
> 
> 
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On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 23:04, Norikatsu Shigemura wrote:
> > haven't had any reports of problems with it so far.  If you get X 4.3.0
> > working with it in the next couple of days, it would be great if people
> > could mail me and mention what card, if they had to change anything from
> > a 4.2.0 installation to get it to work, and briefly how they've tested
> > it (i.e. started up gnome2 and did something, not just "it built" or
> > "startx works")

I don't have the original mail, so I'll reply here :)

You need to have an up to date fontconfig port before XFree86 (and a
bunch of other apps) will build.

Mostly a peripheral issue, but it would be nice if there was a way to
teach the dependent ports about the differences between the two.

FC_RGBA_UNKNOWN is the #define which causes the problem. I don't
remember the exact versions but my laptop has fontconfig 2.0_2 and it is
missing the #define, the latest is 2.1_5.

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** Reply to message from Eric Anholt <eta@lclark.edu> on 05 Mar 2003 00:17:24
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> The release engineers have been considering allowing XFree86 4.3 in
> 4.8-RELEASE, but it needs widespread testing.  Anyone interested, please
> apply the diffs at:
> http://people.freebsd.org/~anholt/X/files.html
> to your ports tree and install.

Is it necessary to deinstall XFree86 4.2 before installing the 4.3 patches?

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On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, Marc Spitzer wrote:

> On Thu, 06 Mar 2003 08:46:07 -0800
> Darcy Buskermolen <darcy@wavefire.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > I have had simular experiances with this very phenominom under 3.X,
> > although I have only ever seen it when you fill the partition ie 101%
> > used and it only happens on partitions with softupdates.
> >
>
> I do not mean to state the obvious, but have you tried to
> look for open files on the partition, especially ones that have
> been deleted but are still held open by the process?  lsof will
> give you a list.  I am just mentioning it because it has got me
> in the past.  You could also try turning off daemon processes
> one at a time and see if that helps.

Tried that, using both lsof and fstat ... nothing is showing up ... in my
case, I'm suspecting that the system is to busy for softupates to be able
to sync to disk properly ... if I type 'reboot' to reboot the machine, it
seems to take longer then normal to actually drop my connection, which I'm
guessing is the time its taking to write everything to the drive ...

I just disabled softupdates on that file system, so will see if that makes
any difference ...

And before you say anything about the 'too busy' comment, Tor Egge just
spent the past week with me identifyng a "bug" in vnlru_proc where it
couldn't reclaim vnodes fast enough, causing the server to hang ... he
provided me with a patch to changes it reclaimation algorithm to speed
things up to a reasonable level ...



 > > Good luck
>
> marc
>
> >
> > On Wednesday 05 March 2003 16:53, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> > > I rebooted my server 20hrs ago, and had 20gig of free space ... now
> > > I'm down to 4.6gig ...
> > >
> > > venus# df -t ufs
> > > Filesystem    1K-blocks     Used   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
> > > /dev/amrd0s1a 103777974 90836532 4639206    95%    /
> > >
> > > Before I rebooted it 20hrs ago, it had drop'd down <500Meg, and
> > > after the reboot, pop'd back up to 20gig ...
> > >
> > > I can't seem to find where 16gig of disk space is being used though,
> > > but, for instance, I had 12gig of files in /var/vmcore (from crash
> > > dumps) that I removed, which should have increased me to 16gig free,
> > > but I'm still at 4.6gig and drop'ng ...
> > >
> > > The system isn't particularly busy:
> > >
> > > venus# iostat 5
> > >       tty           amrd0             cpu
> > >  tin tout  KB/t tps  MB/s  us ni sy in id
> > >    1  116  0.00   0  0.00  32  0 28  1 40
> > >    1  452  4.29 343  1.43  39  0 52  0  9
> > >    0  225  5.21 258  1.31  32  0 47  1 21
> > >    2   35  6.21 270  1.64  13  0 51  0 36
> > >    1   38  4.46 268  1.17  19  0 49  1 31
> > >    1   32  4.81 261  1.23  16  0 51  1 32
> > >
> > > And the drive is 7x18gig in a RAID5 configuration ..
> > >
> > > OS is 4.8-RC FreeBSD 4.8-RC #38: Tue Mar  4 22:43:18 CST 2003 with a
> > > patch from Tor Egge to fix a problem with how vnodes are kept track
> > > of and reclaimed/reused ...
> > >
> > > I've tried doing a 'sync', figuring that maybe it would force all
> > > outstanding writes to the drive, but that seems to make no
> > > difference either ...
> > >
> > > I'm doing a du right now to see if I can see anything large out of
> > > the ordinary, but is there any way (maybe using lsof?) of finding
> > > out what, if any, processes are holding open a large file?
> > >
> > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org
> > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
> >
> > --
> > Darcy Buskermolen
> > Wavefire Technologies Corp.
> > ph: 250.717.0200
> > fx:  250.763.1759
> > http://www.wavefire.com
> >
> >
> >
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Greetings and Howdy-
	I was gifted with an IBM PC Server 325 a few months back, and I've
been trying on and off since then to get FreeBSD loaded onto it.  Its
nothing too special - dual PPro motherboard with an onboard AIC7880 SCSI
controller.  There is currently only one processor in it (unchanged since
its arrival).  I cannot, for the life of me, get FreeBSD to load on it.
The machine hardlocks while loading the kernel, right after 'Waiting 15
seconds for SCSI devices to settle...' (complete boot -v output displayed
below).

	I've tried everything I can think of - loading the system with
just one drive attached, every different possible combination of drives
attached - hell, even with no drives attached.  Same deal every time.
I've changed SCSI BIOS options as well (one change at a time, and then
every possible permutation of options) - no dice.  I've tried with
different memory as well.  Heres how the system is sitting at the moment:

	internal SCSI chain
		ID0:	IBM		DFHSS2W
		ID1:	IBM		DCHS04W
		ID6:	IBM		CDRM00203
		ID7:	scsi controller
		ID10:	IBMAS400	DCHS09W
		ID12:	IBMAS400	DCHS09W
	the internal cable runs from the motherboard, to the CD-ROM, to
	HDD ID#0, HDD ID#1, HDD ID#10, then HDD ID#12.

	external SCSI chain
		(nothing)

While booting, the SCSI BIOS reports the following (versioning, etc)
Adaptec AIC-7880 Ultra/Ultra W BIOS v1.25
(c) 1996 Adaptec, Inc. All Rights Reseved.

A boot -v provides the following output (well, at the tail end anyways,
as I can't pause the scrolling nor scroll up):

sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
sio0: type 16550A
sio1: not probed (disabled)
sio2: not probed (disabled)
sio3: not probed (disabled)
sio4: not probed (disabled)
ppc0: not probed (disabled)
ed0: not probed (disabled)
fe0: not probed (disabled)
ie0: not probed (disabled)
lnc1: not probed (disabled)
cs0: not probed (disabled)
sn0: not probed (disabled)
isa_probe_children: probing PnP devices
BIOS Geometries:
 0: 0111f33f 0..273=274 cylinders, 0..254=255 heads, 1..63=63 sectors
 1: 0223fe3f 0..547=548 cylinders, 0..254=255 heads, 1..63=63 sectors
 2: 03fefe3f 0..1022=1023 cylinders, 0..254=255 heads, 1..63=63 sectors
 3: 03fefe3f 0..1022=1023 cylinders, 0..254=255 heads, 1..63=63 sectors
 4: 004f0124 0..79=80 cylinders, 0..1=2 heads, 1..36=36 sectors
 0 accounted for
Device configuration finished
bpf: lo0 attached
bpf: sl0 attached
Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle
(noperiph:ahc0:0:-1:-1): SCSI bus reset delivered.  0 SCBs aborted.

and thats it - nothing after that.  I've tried -questions, no luck there.
I decieded to try and brave new terrirory and bug -scsi, but I received a
nice yet firm notice that that wasn't the place for this, and was pointed
here (-stable).  I'm not sure what else to do, so I turn to you.  I've
never had a problem like this on any of my other FBSD boxes (numbering
seven at the moment), but then, I've never had onboard SCSI (or any sort
of SCSI) on any of the other machines.  I don't think its a termination
issue - the machine came to me with Win2k loaded on it, and I've been able
to successfully reload Win2k on it again.  So, as I said, I'm not sure
whats up - hopefully someone can point me in the right direction.

I'd appreciate it if I could be CC:'d on any response, as I'm not
currently tracking -STABLE.

Many thanks in advance.

		-Ryan T. Dean
		rtdean@cytherianage.net

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On Thu, 06-Mar-2003 at 23:58:37 +0100, Francesco Casadei wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 03:33:55PM +0100, Andre Albsmeier wrote:
> > (I assume the cabling/termination has been checked already.)
> > 
> > I had bus problems with my DNES until I upgraded the firmware to:
> > 
> > da2: <IBM DNES-318350W SAH0> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device 
> > 
> > In general, I have often seen bus problems when a lot of different
> > devices are hanging on the same SCSI bus and some drives are being
> > hit really hard. They always went away with a new fw, especially
> > on my IBM DDYS drives. The Plextor fw seems a bit old as well (at
> > least compared to my PLEXTOR CD-ROM PX-40TS 1.13) but I don't know
> > if the 32TS uses the same as the 40TS.
> > 
> > I have written a program to upgrade the firmware on IBM and Plextor
> > (and some other devices) under FreeBSD in case you are interested...
> > However, IMO one should play with the fw only in case of problems
> > and not just to get lastest version...
> > 
> > 	-Andre
> > 
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> 
> I'm having SCSI-related problems on the home PC, which has run fine for three
> years now whithout being hardware-upgraded. I update the system on a regular
> basis, though (last buildworld/installword was on Thu Dec 26 2002).
> The IBM drive fitness test showed that hard drives are ok. The error seems to
> appear randomly, whithout particular conditions (load avg, used mem, programs
> running, etc.).
> A couple of days ago the SCSI bus has been reset five consecutive times! Is it
> time to change my AHA2940 or this has nothing to do with the SCSI controller?

I am no expert in these things, but: I have never seen a bad Adaptec
controller (and I used lots of them from 2940 to 39160). I _have_ seen
many bad cables/terminators. I _have_ seen many bad cables/terminators
that used to work without a glitch and suddenly started to become bad.
The possibility that this happens is reciprocally proportional to the
price you pay for them :-)

I have SCSI systems that worked for years and started to spit out bus
error messages when changes were commmitted to the driver. In most
cases it turned out that these changes only triggered bad cable/
terminator errors or even firmware problems with the drive.

Don't you have a friend who can give you a spare AHA2940 for
testing?

	-Andre


> 
> 	Francesco Casadei
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Hi,

are there any restrictions to get x11 forwarding to run in a jail? i get 
x11 to work on the base system, but when i run it in the jail i get an 
authentication error to the putty x11 proxy. disabling all security in 
putty and the local x server doesnt help.

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On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 08:16:44PM +1100, Peter Jeremy wrote:
>In the past, the CTM package 'cvs-cur' would fetch the entire CVS
>repository.  This has stopped since the repository split at the end
>of February and I haven't seen any announcement regarding its future.

Just to clarify for the archives:  CTM continues to operate.  Some
of the repository re-arrangement triggered a bug that required manual
intervention to recover from.  cvs-cur is again functioning normally.

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Thus spake Marc G. Fournier <scrappy@hub.org>:
> OS is 4.8-RC FreeBSD 4.8-RC #38: Tue Mar  4 22:43:18 CST 2003 with a patch
> from Tor Egge to fix a problem with how vnodes are kept track of and
> reclaimed/reused ...

Hmmm...did you run into the problem before applying the patch?
I can't imagine softupdates getting several gigabytes behind.

> I've tried doing a 'sync', figuring that maybe it would force all
> outstanding writes to the drive, but that seems to make no difference
> either ...

By the way, sync(8) doesn't guarantee that all outstanding
dependencies are written to disk.  It does write out all buffers
that can be written at the time sync is called, but while those
buffers are being written, dependencies may be uncovered and more
buffers may come along.  Since it could potentially have to keep
trying forever in the face of an infinite stream of requests, sync
doesn't keep trying.

You can guarantee that everything is flushed to disk (if even for
a brief moment) by attempting to unmount the filesystem you want
to sync (without -f).  The unmount will fail because the
filesystem is in use, but everything will be written out before it
does.

What I really don't understand is how you seem to manage to run
into more bugs than everyone else.  (FYI, the libc_r/KVA_PAGES
bug is now fixed in -STABLE.)

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Thus spake Marc G. Fournier <scrappy@hub.org>:
>   I have an Intel server (SVW7500, or some designation like that) setup
> with an Adaptec 2120S controller in it:
> 
> aac0: <Adaptec SCSI RAID 2120S> mem 0xf8000000-0xfbffffff irq 2 at device 9.0 on pci1
> aac0: i960RX 100MHz, 48MB cache memory, optional battery present
> aac0: Kernel 4.0-0, Build 5770, S/N 232fb7
> 
>   Originally, when we installed it, we had a problem where, while booting,
> you would suddenly get the 'aac timeout' message scroll up the screen,
> that has/had since been fixed ...
> 
>   Yesterday, after doing some work on one of our servers to increase the #
> of vnodes, I added and built a new kernel with:
> 
> options         VM_KMEM_SIZE="(400*1024*1024)"
> options         VM_KMEM_SIZE_MAX="(400*1024*1024)"
> 
>    Which I have running on venus (its using an AMI RAID card) without any
> hassles ... upon reboot of the Adaptec/Intel server, I once more am
> getting the Timeouts and inability to boot ... a kernel built 10 minutes
> earlier, without those options, but the exact same code, runs fine, so
> something with the VM_KMEM_SIZE increase is causing the problem ...

I don't know why VM_KMEM_SIZE would tickle a RAID controller
problem, but I've seen timeout message similar to the one you
describe with a flaky SCSI controller.  (Try statically compiling
all relevant drivers into the kernel if you're not already.)  The
fix for me was to reduce the tag depth with camcontrol.  Try a
value around 8 or so; there shouldn't be much, if any, of a
performance difference.

	camcontrol tags devicename -N8

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On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 01:19:18AM +0100, Martin Blapp wrote:
>After deleting a 80GB file on a IDE disk, the disk got
>empty about 50% then rm(1) begun to consume all cpu and the
>system got more and more unresponsive. I could not interrupt
>the rm in any way, even kill -9 did not help, it was really
>busy with unlink().

It's not clear whether you have console access or not.  If you have
access to the console (and a kernel with DDB), break into ddb and
run "ps" - this will show what all the processes are going (and
specifically, what they are blocked on).

If you can't use DDB, another option would be to run "top" in another
session and see what it reports as the state of the top few processes.

Peter

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On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 08:15:41AM +0100, Andre Albsmeier wrote:
[snip]
> I am no expert in these things, but: I have never seen a bad Adaptec
> controller (and I used lots of them from 2940 to 39160). I _have_ seen
> many bad cables/terminators. I _have_ seen many bad cables/terminators
> that used to work without a glitch and suddenly started to become bad.
> The possibility that this happens is reciprocally proportional to the
> price you pay for them :-)
>=20
> I have SCSI systems that worked for years and started to spit out bus
> error messages when changes were commmitted to the driver. In most
> cases it turned out that these changes only triggered bad cable/
> terminator errors or even firmware problems with the drive.
>=20
> Don't you have a friend who can give you a spare AHA2940 for
> testing?
>=20
> 	-Andre
>=20
[snip]
> end of the original message

Yeah, it's hard to think about an Adaptec 2940 failing, but I'm just
guessing the cause of the error.

I had ATA 'fallback to PIO mode' errors with three IBM 40G, and
I found that one of the three hd fans installed had failed. I removed it and
the the problem disappeared (system uptime is 31 days now).
Could it be an electrical problem due to a failing hd fan attached to the D=
NES
power cable?

Thanks for your help.

	Francesco Casadei
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cvsuped a few minutes ago the ports tree. In all of the directories
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Used the ver -11 of the pacthes leading to 4.3.0

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On Fri, 07-Mar-2003 at 10:43:53 +0100, Francesco Casadei wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 08:15:41AM +0100, Andre Albsmeier wrote:
> [snip]
> > I am no expert in these things, but: I have never seen a bad Adaptec
> > controller (and I used lots of them from 2940 to 39160). I _have_ seen
> > many bad cables/terminators. I _have_ seen many bad cables/terminators
> > that used to work without a glitch and suddenly started to become bad.
> > The possibility that this happens is reciprocally proportional to the
> > price you pay for them :-)
> > 
> > I have SCSI systems that worked for years and started to spit out bus
> > error messages when changes were commmitted to the driver. In most
> > cases it turned out that these changes only triggered bad cable/
> > terminator errors or even firmware problems with the drive.
> > 
> > Don't you have a friend who can give you a spare AHA2940 for
> > testing?
> > 
> > 	-Andre
> > 
> [snip]
> > end of the original message
> 
> Yeah, it's hard to think about an Adaptec 2940 failing, but I'm just
> guessing the cause of the error.
> 
> I had ATA 'fallback to PIO mode' errors with three IBM 40G, and
> I found that one of the three hd fans installed had failed. I removed it and
> the the problem disappeared (system uptime is 31 days now).
> Could it be an electrical problem due to a failing hd fan attached to the DNES
> power cable?

It could, but I don't think so. Why don't you measure the temp of
the DNES with the following script. The DNES usually doesn't get
very hot...

#!/bin/sh

shit () {
  if [ ! $sflag ]; then
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    echo	>&2
  fi
  exit 1
}

sflag=""
if [ "x$1" = x-s ]; then
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fi

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  [ "$1" != 47 ] && shit "Byte 0 is not 47"
  [ "$2" !=  8 ] && shit "Bytes 2/3 are not 8"
  [ "$3" !=  0 ] && shit "Bytes 4/5 are not 0"
  [ "$4" !=  4 ] && shit "Byte 7 is not 4"

  if [ $sflag ]; then
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    continue
  fi

  echo
  echo "Device $d"
  echo "---------------------------------------"
  echo "SMART Sense Code Byte            : $5"
  echo "SMART Alert Reason Code          : $6"
  echo "Most Recent Temperature Reading  : $7"
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done
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[...]
> What I really don't understand is how you seem to manage to run
> into more bugs than everyone else.  (FYI, the libc_r/KVA_PAGES
> bug is now fixed in -STABLE.)

He has rather unusual requirements compared to a lot of others. As I
understand he runs hundreds of jails and has thousands of processes,
putting real challenge to VM. All this means that FreeBSD
isn't ready to enterprise yet, no matter what advocacy has to say.
I'm glad Marc hasn't gave up and every now-and-then sends the
findings out to lists, for the benefit of others, particularly
developers. One word about "enterprise"; I'm sure Yahoo and similar
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engineers in the field and have customised installations, I guess.
Off-the-shelf FreeBSD isn't ready yet.
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On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 11:10:39AM +0100, Andre Albsmeier wrote:
>=20
[snip]
> It could, but I don't think so. Why don't you measure the temp of
> the DNES with the following script. The DNES usually doesn't get
> very hot...
>=20
> #!/bin/sh
>=20
> shit () {
>   if [ ! $sflag ]; then
>     echo	>&2
>     echo "$@"	>&2
>     echo	>&2
>   fi
>   exit 1
> }
>=20
> sflag=3D""
> if [ "x$1" =3D x-s ]; then
>   sflag=3D1
>   shift
> fi
>=20
> for d in "$@"; do
>   set -- `camcontrol cmd $d -c "4d 0 6f 0 0 0 0 0 0C 0" -i 12 "i1 *i1 i2 =
i2 *i1 i1 i1 i1 i1 i1"`
>   [ "$1" !=3D 47 ] && shit "Byte 0 is not 47"
>   [ "$2" !=3D  8 ] && shit "Bytes 2/3 are not 8"
>   [ "$3" !=3D  0 ] && shit "Bytes 4/5 are not 0"
>   [ "$4" !=3D  4 ] && shit "Byte 7 is not 4"
>=20
>   if [ $sflag ]; then
>     echo -n "$7 "
>     continue
>   fi
>=20
>   echo
>   echo "Device $d"
>   echo "---------------------------------------"
>   echo "SMART Sense Code Byte            : $5"
>   echo "SMART Alert Reason Code          : $6"
>   echo "Most Recent Temperature Reading  : $7"
>   echo "Vendor HDA Temperature Trip Point: $8"
> done
> echo
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Thanks a lot for the script. Here's the output:

Device da1
---------------------------------------
SMART Sense Code Byte            : 0
SMART Alert Reason Code          : 0
Most Recent Temperature Reading  : 33
Vendor HDA Temperature Trip Point: 85

I assume that 33 stands for 33 Celsius degree. It's not a high temperature,=
 at
least not as high as I thought.

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On Fri, 07-Mar-2003 at 12:17:45 +0100, Francesco Casadei wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 11:10:39AM +0100, Andre Albsmeier wrote:
> > 
> [snip]
> > It could, but I don't think so. Why don't you measure the temp of
> > the DNES with the following script. The DNES usually doesn't get
> > very hot...
> > 
> > #!/bin/sh
> > 
> > shit () {
> >   if [ ! $sflag ]; then
> >     echo	>&2
> >     echo "$@"	>&2
> >     echo	>&2
> >   fi
> >   exit 1
> > }
> > 
> > sflag=""
> > if [ "x$1" = x-s ]; then
> >   sflag=1
> >   shift
> > fi
> > 
> > for d in "$@"; do
> >   set -- `camcontrol cmd $d -c "4d 0 6f 0 0 0 0 0 0C 0" -i 12 "i1 *i1 i2 i2 *i1 i1 i1 i1 i1 i1"`
> >   [ "$1" != 47 ] && shit "Byte 0 is not 47"
> >   [ "$2" !=  8 ] && shit "Bytes 2/3 are not 8"
> >   [ "$3" !=  0 ] && shit "Bytes 4/5 are not 0"
> >   [ "$4" !=  4 ] && shit "Byte 7 is not 4"
> > 
> >   if [ $sflag ]; then
> >     echo -n "$7 "
> >     continue
> >   fi
> > 
> >   echo
> >   echo "Device $d"
> >   echo "---------------------------------------"
> >   echo "SMART Sense Code Byte            : $5"
> >   echo "SMART Alert Reason Code          : $6"
> >   echo "Most Recent Temperature Reading  : $7"
> >   echo "Vendor HDA Temperature Trip Point: $8"
> > done
> > echo
> > 
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> 
> Thanks a lot for the script. Here's the output:
> 
> Device da1
> ---------------------------------------
> SMART Sense Code Byte            : 0
> SMART Alert Reason Code          : 0
> Most Recent Temperature Reading  : 33
> Vendor HDA Temperature Trip Point: 85
> 
> I assume that 33 stands for 33 Celsius degree. It's not a high temperature, at

Yep.

> least not as high as I thought.

No, that's quite OK.

	-Andre

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* Andre Albsmeier <andre.albsmeier@siemens.com> [20030307 11:08]:
> It could, but I don't think so. Why don't you measure the temp of
> the DNES with the following script. The DNES usually doesn't get
> very hot...
Could you post a version for a <SEAGATE ST318438LW 0003> (that's the one
that's giving me problems) or point me to some reading to figure out the
magic for the camcontrol command? Right now I get:

(13:01:52 <~>) 0 $ sudo hdcheck.sh da0
Password:
camcontrol: error sending command

Byte 0 is not 47

tks
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On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Vallo Kallaste wrote:

> On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 01:00:33AM -0800, David Schultz
> <das@FreeBSD.ORG> wrote:
>
> [...]
> > What I really don't understand is how you seem to manage to run
> > into more bugs than everyone else.  (FYI, the libc_r/KVA_PAGES
> > bug is now fixed in -STABLE.)
>
> He has rather unusual requirements compared to a lot of others. As I
> understand he runs hundreds of jails and has thousands of processes,
> putting real challenge to VM. All this means that FreeBSD
> isn't ready to enterprise yet, no matter what advocacy has to say.
> I'm glad Marc hasn't gave up and every now-and-then sends the
> findings out to lists, for the benefit of others, particularly
> developers. One word about "enterprise"; I'm sure Yahoo and similar
> big players run also FreeBSD on "big boxes", but they have real
> engineers in the field and have customised installations, I guess.
> Off-the-shelf FreeBSD isn't ready yet.

As Vallo says above ... the 'bug' that Tor helped me fix this past week,
with vnlru_proc, being a good example ... how many ppl are running their
server with 132 active mount points?  From what I can tell, the bugs I'm
hitting are all 'fringe bugs', stuff that you really have to be doing
something extreme to hit ... but, as such, if I can get the bug fixed, its
also one less bug that has the chance of hurting someone else ...

As for 'the enterprise', I think the only thing that I really find about
FreeBSD that 'hurts' is that I can't go above the 4Gig of RAM limit within
ia32, even though there are boards that do support it ...

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Is this not the same place as the last 2 panics ?

SMP 2 cpus
IdlePTD at phsyical address 0x0038c000
initial pcb at physical address 0x002ed580
panicstr: page fault
panic messages:
---
Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
mp_lock = 01000002; cpuid = 1; lapic.id = 00000000
fault virtual address   = 0xf5257d97
fault code              = supervisor read, page not present
instruction pointer     = 0x8:0xc0192a6c
stack pointer           = 0x10:0xdda6ae40
frame pointer           = 0x10:0xdda6ae5c
code segment            = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b
                         = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
processor eflags        = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0
current process         = 33568 (sendmail)
interrupt mask          =  <- SMP: XXX
trap number             = 12
panic: page fault
mp_lock = 01000002; cpuid = 1; lapic.id = 00000000
boot() called on cpu#1

#0  dumpsys () at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:487
487             if (dumping++) {
(kgdb) bt
#0  dumpsys () at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:487
#1  0xc0155878 in boot (howto=256) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:316
#2  0xc0155ce0 in poweroff_wait (junk=0xc02c0d19, howto=-1070856209) at 
/usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:595
#3  0xc0283d71 in trap_fatal (frame=0xdda6ae00, eva=4112874903) at 
/usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:974
#4  0xc02839e9 in trap_pfault (frame=0xdda6ae00, usermode=0, 
eva=4112874903) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:867
#5  0xc0283547 in trap (frame={tf_fs = -578748392, tf_es = -577699824, 
tf_ds = -576323568, tf_edi = -1016904475,
       tf_esi = -1027665755, tf_ebp = -576278948, tf_isp = -576278996, 
tf_ebx = -182092393, tf_edx = -1027665721,
       tf_ecx = -1027665723, tf_eax = 28, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 0, 
tf_eip = -1072092564, tf_cs = 8, tf_eflags = 66178,
       tf_esp = 13568, tf_ss = -1016904480}) at 
/usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:466
#6  0xc0192a6c in ifa_ifwithnet (addr=0xc36344e0) at /usr/src/sys/net/if.c:611
#7  0xc01b6e05 in in_pcbladdr (inp=0xdb942e00, nam=0xc36344e0, 
plocal_sin=0xdda6ae94) at /usr/src/sys/netinet/in_pcb.c:459
#8  0xc01b6ef3 in in_pcbconnect (inp=0xdb942e00, nam=0xc36344e0, 
p=0xdd913040) at /usr/src/sys/netinet/in_pcb.c:526
#9  0xc01cc7e9 in udp_connect (so=0xdb704c40, nam=0xc36344e0, p=0xdd913040) 
at /usr/src/sys/netinet/udp_usrreq.c:866
#10 0xc0174a54 in soconnect (so=0xdb704c40, nam=0xc36344e0, p=0xdd913040) 
at /usr/src/sys/kern/uipc_socket.c:389
#11 0xc0178118 in connect (p=0xdd913040, uap=0xdda6af80) at 
/usr/src/sys/kern/uipc_syscalls.c:394
#12 0xc02840b5 in syscall2 (frame={tf_fs = 673906735, tf_es = 673906735, 
tf_ds = -1078001617, tf_edi = -1077983904, tf_esi = 59,
       tf_ebp = -1077996464, tf_isp = -576278572, tf_ebx = 673944780, 
tf_edx = 0, tf_ecx = 0, tf_eax = 98, tf_trapno = 12,
       tf_err = 2, tf_eip = 673621160, tf_cs = 31, tf_eflags = 659, tf_esp 
= -1077997132, tf_ss = 47})
     at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:1175
#13 0xc027085b in Xint0x80_syscall ()
cannot read proc at 0
(kgdb)

Also, if it were a hardware issue, would not the crashes be a little more 
random than 24hrs ?

         ---Mike


At 10:45 AM 3/6/2003 -0500, Michael L. Squires wrote:
> > Its an older dual PIII.  Can anyone tell me if the dumps point to a
> > hardware issue, or if its crashing in the same spot each time ? I can 
> blast
> > it with buildworlds and it never dies.  Generally I have yet to find bad
> > hardware that could pass that.... But always a first time.
>
>I have a P6DGH with two PII/300's running 4.8-RC2; mptable crashes with
>a "HOSED" error message for the extended table (indicative of a BIOS
>problems) but no crashes.
>
>MLS
>
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Subject: Sony Cybershot should be in hardware notes (supported by umass)
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Hi,

I haven't found where the 4.8 hardware notes are, so I thought I'd just
mention that my Sony Cybershot camera (DSC-P7) works with the umass
driver so someone can add it:

umass0: Sony Sony DSC, rev 1.10/4.10, addr 3
da2 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
da2: <Sony Sony DSC 4.10> Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device
da2: 150KB/s transfers
da2: 123MB (253696 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 123C)

I'm such a happy puppy :)

tks
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Hello,

for several days, I am starting to see the following errors in my log

Mar  6 20:17:54 banquo /kernel: ad0: READ command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting
Mar  6 20:17:54 banquo /kernel: ata0: resetting devices .. ad0: DMA limited to UDMA33, non-ATA66 cable or device
Mar  6 20:17:54 banquo /kernel: done

Mar  7 12:26:15 banquo /kernel: ad0: WRITE command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting
Mar  7 12:26:15 banquo /kernel: ata0: resetting devices .. ad0: timeout sending
command=ec s=d0 e=00
Mar  7 12:26:15 banquo /kernel: ad0: ATA identify failed
Mar  7 12:26:15 banquo /kernel: ad0: timeout sending command=c6 s=d0 e=00
Mar  7 12:26:15 banquo /kernel: ad0: timeout sending command=ef s=d0 e=00
Mar  7 12:26:15 banquo last message repeated 4 times
Mar  7 12:26:15 banquo /kernel: done
Mar  7 12:26:15 banquo /kernel: ad0: timeout sending command=c5 s=d0 e=00
Mar  7 12:26:15 banquo /kernel: ad0: error executing command - resetting
Mar  7 12:26:15 banquo /kernel: ata0: resetting devices .. done

My computer is running a recent 4-STABLE

banquo% uname -a 
FreeBSD banquo 4.8-RC FreeBSD 4.8-RC #1: Thu Mar  6 18:43:38 CET 2003
    root@banquo:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/banquo  i386

with the relevant lines of dmesg
/kernel: atapci0: <Intel ICH4 ATA100 controller> port 0xf000-0xf00f,0-0x3,0-0x7,0-0x3,0-0x7 irq 0 at device 31.1 on pci0
/kernel: ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
/kernel: ad0: 29314MB <IBM-DTLA-307030> [59560/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA100

Should I worry for my hard drive and save for a new one?

Thanks a lot,

			 Olivier

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Quote possibly, however try another IDE cable first, this could be the cause
of the problem.

Barry

----- Original Message -----
From: "Olivier Saut" <Olivier.Saut@gmm.insa-tlse.fr>
To: <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 3:49 PM
Subject: Bad hardware?


> Hello,
>
> for several days, I am starting to see the following errors in my log
>
> Mar  6 20:17:54 banquo /kernel: ad0: READ command timeout tag=0 serv=0 -
resetting
> Mar  6 20:17:54 banquo /kernel: ata0: resetting devices .. ad0: DMA
limited to UDMA33, non-ATA66 cable or device
> Mar  6 20:17:54 banquo /kernel: done
>
> Mar  7 12:26:15 banquo /kernel: ad0: WRITE command timeout tag=0 serv=0 -
resetting
> Mar  7 12:26:15 banquo /kernel: ata0: resetting devices .. ad0: timeout
sending
> command=ec s=d0 e=00
> Mar  7 12:26:15 banquo /kernel: ad0: ATA identify failed
> Mar  7 12:26:15 banquo /kernel: ad0: timeout sending command=c6 s=d0 e=00
> Mar  7 12:26:15 banquo /kernel: ad0: timeout sending command=ef s=d0 e=00
> Mar  7 12:26:15 banquo last message repeated 4 times
> Mar  7 12:26:15 banquo /kernel: done
> Mar  7 12:26:15 banquo /kernel: ad0: timeout sending command=c5 s=d0 e=00
> Mar  7 12:26:15 banquo /kernel: ad0: error executing command - resetting
> Mar  7 12:26:15 banquo /kernel: ata0: resetting devices .. done
>
> My computer is running a recent 4-STABLE
>
> banquo% uname -a
> FreeBSD banquo 4.8-RC FreeBSD 4.8-RC #1: Thu Mar  6 18:43:38 CET 2003
>     root@banquo:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/banquo  i386
>
> with the relevant lines of dmesg
> /kernel: atapci0: <Intel ICH4 ATA100 controller> port
0xf000-0xf00f,0-0x3,0-0x7,0-0x3,0-0x7 irq 0 at device 31.1 on pci0
> /kernel: ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
> /kernel: ad0: 29314MB <IBM-DTLA-307030> [59560/16/63] at ata0-master
UDMA100
>
> Should I worry for my hard drive and save for a new one?
>
> Thanks a lot,
>
> Olivier
>
> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org
> with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
>
>
>



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On Fri, 07-Mar-2003 at 13:06:08 +0100, Joan Picanyol i Puig wrote:
> * Andre Albsmeier <andre.albsmeier@siemens.com> [20030307 11:08]:
> > It could, but I don't think so. Why don't you measure the temp of
> > the DNES with the following script. The DNES usually doesn't get
> > very hot...
> Could you post a version for a <SEAGATE ST318438LW 0003> (that's the one
> that's giving me problems) or point me to some reading to figure out the
> magic for the camcontrol command? Right now I get:
> 
> (13:01:52 <~>) 0 $ sudo hdcheck.sh da0
> Password:
> camcontrol: error sending command
> 
> Byte 0 is not 47

I can't since I don't know if (or how) it works on Seagate drives.
I think it is an IBMish thing: It works on the IBM DNES, DDYS and
those ICL35 (don't know the exact name) drives; it does not work
on the IBM DDRS.

Ask Seagate about a firmware updates for your drive. I have an
ST318404LW which behave badly until I updated it to a new one.

	-Andre

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On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 12:17:24AM -0800, Eric Anholt wrote:
> On Tue, 2003-03-04 at 05:25, Ken Mays wrote:
> > Would the FreeBSD team consider the benefits of integrating Xfree86 v4.=
3.x
> > for v4.8?!? The upgrade that was done on the video drivers alone was wo=
rth
> > it for me.
>=20
> The release engineers have been considering allowing XFree86 4.3 in
> 4.8-RELEASE, but it needs widespread testing.  Anyone interested, please
> apply the diffs at:
> http://people.freebsd.org/~anholt/X/files.html
> to your ports tree and install.
>=20
> Besides basic problems I may have caused with the ports, oddities in
> cursor handling would be particularly likely because of changes in 4.3.0
> which were somewhat last-minute.  Some changes have been made in XFree86
> CVS post-4.3.0 already, so if you report anything I may be able to track
> down a fix.

With the -7 diff (I know there is a later version but I had only intermitte=
nt
time to work on this) on a Dec 16 4.7-STABLE using a Matrox G450 it works
great, FWIW.

--Stijn

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On Friday 07 March 2003 04:27, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Vallo Kallaste wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 01:00:33AM -0800, David Schultz
> > <das@FreeBSD.ORG> wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > What I really don't understand is how you seem to manage to run
> > > into more bugs than everyone else.  (FYI, the libc_r/KVA_PAGES
> > > bug is now fixed in -STABLE.)
> >
> > He has rather unusual requirements compared to a lot of others. As I
> > understand he runs hundreds of jails and has thousands of processes,
> > putting real challenge to VM. All this means that FreeBSD
> > isn't ready to enterprise yet, no matter what advocacy has to say.
> > I'm glad Marc hasn't gave up and every now-and-then sends the
> > findings out to lists, for the benefit of others, particularly
> > developers. One word about "enterprise"; I'm sure Yahoo and similar
> > big players run also FreeBSD on "big boxes", but they have real
> > engineers in the field and have customised installations, I guess.
> > Off-the-shelf FreeBSD isn't ready yet.

Off-the-shelf FreeBSD is about as good as most commercial UNIX systems; 
you seem to have either overestimated their ability to handle loads that 
are absurd for the hardware or have had a much better experience than I 
have.

> As Vallo says above ... the 'bug' that Tor helped me fix this past
> week, with vnlru_proc, being a good example ... how many ppl are
> running their server with 132 active mount points?  From what I can
> tell, the bugs I'm hitting are all 'fringe bugs', stuff that you really
> have to be doing something extreme to hit ... but, as such, if I can
> get the bug fixed, its also one less bug that has the chance of hurting
> someone else ...

Yes, indeed, and I suspect bugs like that generally get fixed a lot faster 
here than when you submit a similar bug report in Solaris or HP-UX.

> As for 'the enterprise', I think the only thing that I really find
> about FreeBSD that 'hurts' is that I can't go above the 4Gig of RAM
> limit within ia32, even though there are boards that do support it ...

Being worked on.  Not so hard to do, much harder to do right.  Guess who 
took the easy sleazy path? ;^)  The other good news is that the intel 
network cards, both 10/100 (fxp) and 10/100/1000 (em) support 64-bit 
addressing, even in 32-bit PCI slots, so you'll have at least ONE enet 
interface that'll work reasonably fast.

-- 

        Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?

Wes Peters                                               wes@softweyr.com


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David Schultz wrote:
> Thus spake Marc G. Fournier <scrappy@hub.org>:
> 
>>  I have an Intel server (SVW7500, or some designation like that) setup
>>with an Adaptec 2120S controller in it:
>>
>>aac0: <Adaptec SCSI RAID 2120S> mem 0xf8000000-0xfbffffff irq 2 at device 9.0 on pci1
>>aac0: i960RX 100MHz, 48MB cache memory, optional battery present
>>aac0: Kernel 4.0-0, Build 5770, S/N 232fb7
>>
>>  Originally, when we installed it, we had a problem where, while booting,
>>you would suddenly get the 'aac timeout' message scroll up the screen,
>>that has/had since been fixed ...
>>
>>  Yesterday, after doing some work on one of our servers to increase the #
>>of vnodes, I added and built a new kernel with:
>>
>>options         VM_KMEM_SIZE="(400*1024*1024)"
>>options         VM_KMEM_SIZE_MAX="(400*1024*1024)"
>>
>>   Which I have running on venus (its using an AMI RAID card) without any
>>hassles ... upon reboot of the Adaptec/Intel server, I once more am
>>getting the Timeouts and inability to boot ... a kernel built 10 minutes
>>earlier, without those options, but the exact same code, runs fine, so
>>something with the VM_KMEM_SIZE increase is causing the problem ...
> 
> 
> I don't know why VM_KMEM_SIZE would tickle a RAID controller
> problem, but I've seen timeout message similar to the one you
> describe with a flaky SCSI controller.  (Try statically compiling
> all relevant drivers into the kernel if you're not already.)  The
> fix for me was to reduce the tag depth with camcontrol.  Try a
> value around 8 or so; there shouldn't be much, if any, of a
> performance difference.
> 
> 	camcontrol tags devicename -N8
> 
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The aac driver does not use the CAM SCSI interface for accessing its
RAID arrays, so changing parameters there will have no effect.

Scott


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Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> Evening all ...
> 
>   I have an Intel server (SVW7500, or some designation like that) setup
> with an Adaptec 2120S controller in it:
> 
> aac0: <Adaptec SCSI RAID 2120S> mem 0xf8000000-0xfbffffff irq 2 at device 9.0 on pci1
> aac0: i960RX 100MHz, 48MB cache memory, optional battery present
> aac0: Kernel 4.0-0, Build 5770, S/N 232fb7
> 
>   Originally, when we installed it, we had a problem where, while booting,
> you would suddenly get the 'aac timeout' message scroll up the screen,
> that has/had since been fixed ...
> 
>   Yesterday, after doing some work on one of our servers to increase the #
> of vnodes, I added and built a new kernel with:
> 
> options         VM_KMEM_SIZE="(400*1024*1024)"
> options         VM_KMEM_SIZE_MAX="(400*1024*1024)"
> 
>    Which I have running on venus (its using an AMI RAID card) without any
> hassles ... upon reboot of the Adaptec/Intel server, I once more am
> getting the Timeouts and inability to boot ... a kernel built 10 minutes
> earlier, without those options, but the exact same code, runs fine, so
> something with the VM_KMEM_SIZE increase is causing the problem ...
> 
>    Help?

I'll investigate why this happens.  How much physical RAM do you have in
the system?  Can you put the card on the other PCI bus that's on that
motherboard and see if there is any difference?
Also, as a tip, I don't read stable@ on a daily basis.  If you (or
anyone else) has aac(4) problems, cc:ing me directly will bring the
fastest response.

Scott



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Vallo Kallaste wrote:

> He has rather unusual requirements compared to a lot of others. As I
> understand he runs hundreds of jails and has thousands of processes,
> putting real challenge to VM. All this means that FreeBSD
> isn't ready to enterprise yet ....

What a mind-blowingly stupid thing to say.  If the concern is
with stability and performance,  one would track -SECURITY and
not -STABLE.


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Marc G. Fournier wrote:

> As for 'the enterprise', I think the only thing that I really find about
> FreeBSD that 'hurts' is that I can't go above the 4Gig of RAM limit within
> ia32, even though there are boards that do support it ...

This is definitely an area of concern, and I *am* glad that you're
doing boundary testing ;-)

The biggest obstacles to adoption in the enterprise aren't technical,
however.  It's all about mind share,  and IT staff tolerate all
manner of stupid limitations from Sun, HP, IBM, etc.

FreeBSD's sales and marketing force is -- er -- small.  What might
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"Karl M. Joch" <k.joch@kmjeuro.com> writes:

> are there any restrictions to get x11 forwarding to run in a jail? i
> get x11 to work on the base system, but when i run it in the jail i
> get an authentication error to the putty x11 proxy. disabling all
> security in putty and the local x server doesnt help.

My experience is, that you need to set

X11UseLocalhost no

in sshd_config inside the jail for X11 forwarding to work.

-- 
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Daniel O'Connor <doconnor@gsoft.com.au> probably said:
> You need to have an up to date fontconfig port before XFree86 (and a
> bunch of other apps) will build.
> 
> Mostly a peripheral issue, but it would be nice if there was a way to
> teach the dependent ports about the differences between the two.
> 
> FC_RGBA_UNKNOWN is the #define which causes the problem. I don't
> remember the exact versions but my laptop has fontconfig 2.0_2 and it is
> missing the #define, the latest is 2.1_5.

I also had 2.0_2 and xfree86 4.3.0 failed to build with the same #define
problem.

Thanks for posting this, saved me the time tracking it down, and I
agree that it's a dependency that should probably be dealt with.

Thanks,
P.

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On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 06:48:26AM -0800, Wes Peters
<wes@softweyr.com> wrote:

> > > putting real challenge to VM. All this means that FreeBSD
> > > isn't ready to enterprise yet, no matter what advocacy has to say.
> > > I'm glad Marc hasn't gave up and every now-and-then sends the
> > > findings out to lists, for the benefit of others, particularly
> > > developers. One word about "enterprise"; I'm sure Yahoo and similar
> > > big players run also FreeBSD on "big boxes", but they have real
> > > engineers in the field and have customised installations, I guess.
> > > Off-the-shelf FreeBSD isn't ready yet.
> 
> Off-the-shelf FreeBSD is about as good as most commercial UNIX systems; 
> you seem to have either overestimated their ability to handle loads that 
> are absurd for the hardware or have had a much better experience than I 
> have.

It's more like I have too high expectations for FreeBSD, probably.
You are right I guess, but all this talk about system auto-tuning
for high capacity systems has not progressed to reality, as far as I
know. The talk comes up occasionally and after some discussion about
the benefits of such auto-tuning, dies off. Lack of manpower I
guess, so I shut up. But that's the point why I made the
"enterprise" comment.
-- 

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On Friday 07 March 2003 08:01, Vallo Kallaste wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 06:48:26AM -0800, Wes Peters
>
> <wes@softweyr.com> wrote:
> > > > putting real challenge to VM. All this means that FreeBSD
> > > > isn't ready to enterprise yet, no matter what advocacy has to
> > > > say. I'm glad Marc hasn't gave up and every now-and-then sends
> > > > the findings out to lists, for the benefit of others,
> > > > particularly developers. One word about "enterprise"; I'm sure
> > > > Yahoo and similar big players run also FreeBSD on "big boxes",
> > > > but they have real engineers in the field and have customised
> > > > installations, I guess. Off-the-shelf FreeBSD isn't ready yet.
> >
> > Off-the-shelf FreeBSD is about as good as most commercial UNIX
> > systems; you seem to have either overestimated their ability to
> > handle loads that are absurd for the hardware or have had a much
> > better experience than I have.
>
> It's more like I have too high expectations for FreeBSD, probably.
> You are right I guess, but all this talk about system auto-tuning
> for high capacity systems has not progressed to reality, as far as I
> know. The talk comes up occasionally and after some discussion about
> the benefits of such auto-tuning, dies off. Lack of manpower I
> guess, so I shut up. But that's the point why I made the
> "enterprise" comment.

A lot depends on the size of the "enterprise" as well.  I'm once again 
building embedded FreeBSD systems, but the tuning requirements on this 
one are wildly different from the last one.  

Here we're spec'ing the next generation of our hardware, which will 
probably be PIII embedded for longevity and pushing the vendors to make 
sure they'll support all the way up to the 1.26 GHz clock, though we'll 
probably ship about 800 MHz to start.  Most of these systems are based 
on the Intel reference design and have only one DIMM slot, so we get 
256M or 512M SDRAM.  

At my last gig, we were pushing P4s at 2.4 GHz to their limits and 
looking into PAE so we could cram 16GB RAM onto the board.  (They ended 
up moving to Linux for the PAE support, which turned out to not really 
get them what they needed, but it's no longer my problem. ;^)

One of these may seem more enterprise-y to you, but both are "bet the 
company" hardware decisions for the respective companies, and designed 
to be installed in the customers enterprise data center -- just 
different sized customers.

-- 
         "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?"

Wes Peters                                              wes@softweyr.com



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On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 17:53, postmaster@netfang.net wrote:
> ** Reply to message from Eric Anholt <eta@lclark.edu> on 05 Mar 2003 00:17:24
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> 
> > The release engineers have been considering allowing XFree86 4.3 in
> > 4.8-RELEASE, but it needs widespread testing.  Anyone interested, please
> > apply the diffs at:
> > http://people.freebsd.org/~anholt/X/files.html
> > to your ports tree and install.
> 
> Is it necessary to deinstall XFree86 4.2 before installing the 4.3 patches?

It should work just fine, as long as you have both of the patches.

Note that the diffs won't work with an up to date ports tree until I
update them to handle the pkg-comment changes that just happened. 
That'll be -12, later today.

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On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 10:59:29AM -0500, Peter Radcliffe wrote:

> Thanks for posting this, saved me the time tracking it down, and I
> agree that it's a dependency that should probably be dealt with.

Whenever you upgrade a port you're supposed to upgrade its'
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Michael Sierchio <kudzu@tenebras.com> writes:
> What a mind-blowingly stupid thing to say.  If the concern is
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> not -STABLE.

What a mind-blowingly stupid thing to say.

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In article <local.mail.freebsd-stable/5.2.0.9.0.20030307072636.084b9348@192.168.0.12> you write:
>
>Is this not the same place as the last 2 panics ?
>
>SMP 2 cpus
>IdlePTD at phsyical address 0x0038c000
>initial pcb at physical address 0x002ed580
>panicstr: page fault
>panic messages:
>---
>Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
>mp_lock = 01000002; cpuid = 1; lapic.id = 00000000
>fault virtual address   = 0xf5257d97
>fault code              = supervisor read, page not present
>instruction pointer     = 0x8:0xc0192a6c
>stack pointer           = 0x10:0xdda6ae40
>frame pointer           = 0x10:0xdda6ae5c
>code segment            = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b
>                         = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
>processor eflags        = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0
>current process         = 33568 (sendmail)
>interrupt mask          =  <- SMP: XXX
>trap number             = 12
>panic: page fault
>mp_lock = 01000002; cpuid = 1; lapic.id = 00000000
>boot() called on cpu#1
>
>#0  dumpsys () at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:487
>487             if (dumping++) {
>(kgdb) bt
>#0  dumpsys () at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:487
>#1  0xc0155878 in boot (howto=256) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:316
>#2  0xc0155ce0 in poweroff_wait (junk=0xc02c0d19, howto=-1070856209) at 
>/usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:595
>#3  0xc0283d71 in trap_fatal (frame=0xdda6ae00, eva=4112874903) at 
>/usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:974
>#4  0xc02839e9 in trap_pfault (frame=0xdda6ae00, usermode=0, 
>eva=4112874903) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:867
>#5  0xc0283547 in trap (frame={tf_fs = -578748392, tf_es = -577699824, 
>tf_ds = -576323568, tf_edi = -1016904475,
>       tf_esi = -1027665755, tf_ebp = -576278948, tf_isp = -576278996, 
>tf_ebx = -182092393, tf_edx = -1027665721,
>       tf_ecx = -1027665723, tf_eax = 28, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 0, 
>tf_eip = -1072092564, tf_cs = 8, tf_eflags = 66178,
>       tf_esp = 13568, tf_ss = -1016904480}) at 
>/usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:466
>#6  0xc0192a6c in ifa_ifwithnet (addr=0xc36344e0) at /usr/src/sys/net/if.c:611

Can you print (in hex) ifp and ifa at frame 6?
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On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, Arthur Chance wrote:

AC> > FT> One problem with the DESTDIR approach may be the use of
AC> > FT> symlinks by a jail administrator - if there are symlinks set for
AC> > FT> directories containing the binaries you may overwrite the hosts
AC> > FT> directories. Maybe "make installworld" does a check for this too - I
AC> > FT> didn't look at it.
AC> >
AC> > We avoid this (and the whole need to update multiple jails) by installing to
AC> > dedicated partition and the do multiple read-only null mounts, so each jail has
AC> > perfectly equal read-only /usr (with symlinks outside to /home, /local, etc)
AC>
AC> I'm probably misreading this as I'm only just starting to look at the
AC> jail facilities but are you saying symlinks from inside a jail to
AC> outside it work within the jail? Doesn't that defeat the entire point?
AC> Or are you saying /usr/local is e.g. a symlink to /local and you have
AC> a different /local per jail and one for the host as well?

Sorry for clarifying not enough ;-) Of course, /local, /home etc are slashed
relative to each jail root. Actually, jail's /usr/local is a symlink to
../local (to make it work even for the host machine environment), etc.

And, of course, you are right, the main purpose of jails is to hide outside
file tree from jail environment.

Sincerely,
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Mamoru Iwaki <iwaki@bc.niigata-u.ac.jp> wrote:
 > I cannot playback music from audio CD via atapicam using cdcontrol
 > [...]
 > # cdcontrol -f /dev/cd1c

Did you try using cdcontrol on the ATAPI device, i.e.
# cdcontrol -d /dev/acd0c
?

using atapicam doesn't prevent you from still using it as
an ATAPI device.  Works fine for me.

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On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 07:29:04AM -0800, Michael Sierchio wrote:
> Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> 
> > As for 'the enterprise', I think the only thing that I really find about
> > FreeBSD that 'hurts' is that I can't go above the 4Gig of RAM limit within
> > ia32, even though there are boards that do support it ...
> 
> This is definitely an area of concern, and I *am* glad that you're
> doing boundary testing ;-)
> 
> The biggest obstacles to adoption in the enterprise aren't technical,
> however.  It's all about mind share,  and IT staff tolerate all
> manner of stupid limitations from Sun, HP, IBM, etc.

s/IT staff/IT management/ in most cases. The actual staff are
not the folks deciding on purchasing A. over B.

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Eric Anholt <eta@lclark.edu> probably said:
> Note that the diffs won't work with an up to date ports tree until I
> update them to handle the pkg-comment changes that just happened. 
> That'll be -12, later today.

IBM Thinkpad X30 with I830MG graphics.

FreeBSD disapp 4.8-RC FreeBSD 4.8-RC #6: Fri Mar  7 00:47:41 EST 2003
     pir@disapp:/usr/src/sys/compile/DISAPP  i386

XFree86 4.3.0 with FreeBSD port patches version -11.


I'm testing 4.3.0 to get support for the Intel I830 (it's only in
4.3.0), with 4.2.x I was using VESA support which is, well, slow
and somewhat cranky.

It seems to work ok generally, I can start X and kill it and it seems
fine, but if I try and switch virtual terminals while it's running I
lose anything reasonable. Screen is corrupted, graphics all over the
place, if I try and switch back to the X vty I get a black screen,
blank other than sometime getting the mouse pointer back for a while.

Once X has died I can't use the console. All vtys are corrupted and
the only way I've found to reset them is to reboot (vidcontrol does
nothing).


In the logs I get;

  (II) Keyboard "Keyboard0" handled by legacy driver
  (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Mouse0" (type: MOUSE)
  (II) Mouse0: SetupAuto: hw.iftype is 4, hw.model is 0
  (II) Mouse0: SetupAuto: protocol is SysMouse
  Error in I830WaitLpRing(), now is 6724, start is 4723
  pgetbl_ctl: 0x3ff60001 pgetbl_err: 0x0
  ipeir: 0 iphdr: 0
  LP ring tail: 180 head: 0 len: 1f001 start 7fde000
  eir: 0 esr: 1 emr: ffff
  instdone: ffc1 instpm: 0
  memmode: 108 instps: 20
  hwstam: ffff ier: 0 imr: ffff iir: 0
  space: 130680 wanted 131064
  
  Fatal server error:
  lockup

The full log can be found in;

  http://p.pir.net/bits/XFree86.0.log-2003-03-07

Thanks,
Peter.

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On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Scott Long wrote:

> David Schultz wrote:
> > Thus spake Marc G. Fournier <scrappy@hub.org>:
> >
> >>  I have an Intel server (SVW7500, or some designation like that) setup
> >>with an Adaptec 2120S controller in it:
> >>
> >>aac0: <Adaptec SCSI RAID 2120S> mem 0xf8000000-0xfbffffff irq 2 at device 9.0 on pci1
> >>aac0: i960RX 100MHz, 48MB cache memory, optional battery present
> >>aac0: Kernel 4.0-0, Build 5770, S/N 232fb7
> >>
> >>  Originally, when we installed it, we had a problem where, while booting,
> >>you would suddenly get the 'aac timeout' message scroll up the screen,
> >>that has/had since been fixed ...
> >>
> >>  Yesterday, after doing some work on one of our servers to increase the #
> >>of vnodes, I added and built a new kernel with:
> >>
> >>options         VM_KMEM_SIZE="(400*1024*1024)"
> >>options         VM_KMEM_SIZE_MAX="(400*1024*1024)"
> >>
> >>   Which I have running on venus (its using an AMI RAID card) without any
> >>hassles ... upon reboot of the Adaptec/Intel server, I once more am
> >>getting the Timeouts and inability to boot ... a kernel built 10 minutes
> >>earlier, without those options, but the exact same code, runs fine, so
> >>something with the VM_KMEM_SIZE increase is causing the problem ...
> >
> >
> > I don't know why VM_KMEM_SIZE would tickle a RAID controller
> > problem, but I've seen timeout message similar to the one you
> > describe with a flaky SCSI controller.  (Try statically compiling
> > all relevant drivers into the kernel if you're not already.)  The
> > fix for me was to reduce the tag depth with camcontrol.  Try a
> > value around 8 or so; there shouldn't be much, if any, of a
> > performance difference.
> >
> > 	camcontrol tags devicename -N8
> >
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> The aac driver does not use the CAM SCSI interface for accessing its
> RAID arrays, so changing parameters there will have no effect.

Oh good, I thought I was doing something wrong when I kept getting errors
trying to access it through camcontrol :)


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On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, David Schultz wrote:

> Thus spake Marc G. Fournier <scrappy@hub.org>:
> > OS is 4.8-RC FreeBSD 4.8-RC #38: Tue Mar  4 22:43:18 CST 2003 with a patch
> > from Tor Egge to fix a problem with how vnodes are kept track of and
> > reclaimed/reused ...
>
> Hmmm...did you run into the problem before applying the patch?
> I can't imagine softupdates getting several gigabytes behind.


I've seen this happen in production enviroments - a 'large' process
(X server for instance) would start up, run for 10 seconds and then
core dump.  The program is re-run by some nanny-type program (init in my
example)  and the program dumps core again. etc etc.

You end up with a never ending series of new 200 MB files and the disk
fills up faster than soft-updates can free up the space.

an even simpler way to reproduce this problem is (in csh)

while 1
dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/testfile bs=1024k count=100
end


and you might see your available diskspace vanish.  Note that I haven't
tried to reproduce this in a year or so...  Things might have changed
since then.

Fred

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On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Scott Long wrote:

> Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> > Evening all ...
> >
> >   I have an Intel server (SVW7500, or some designation like that) setup
> > with an Adaptec 2120S controller in it:
> >
> > aac0: <Adaptec SCSI RAID 2120S> mem 0xf8000000-0xfbffffff irq 2 at device 9.0 on pci1
> > aac0: i960RX 100MHz, 48MB cache memory, optional battery present
> > aac0: Kernel 4.0-0, Build 5770, S/N 232fb7
> >
> >   Originally, when we installed it, we had a problem where, while booting,
> > you would suddenly get the 'aac timeout' message scroll up the screen,
> > that has/had since been fixed ...
> >
> >   Yesterday, after doing some work on one of our servers to increase the #
> > of vnodes, I added and built a new kernel with:
> >
> > options         VM_KMEM_SIZE="(400*1024*1024)"
> > options         VM_KMEM_SIZE_MAX="(400*1024*1024)"
> >
> >    Which I have running on venus (its using an AMI RAID card) without any
> > hassles ... upon reboot of the Adaptec/Intel server, I once more am
> > getting the Timeouts and inability to boot ... a kernel built 10 minutes
> > earlier, without those options, but the exact same code, runs fine, so
> > something with the VM_KMEM_SIZE increase is causing the problem ...
> >
> >    Help?
>
> I'll investigate why this happens.  How much physical RAM do you have in
> the system?  Can you put the card on the other PCI bus that's on that
> motherboard and see if there is any difference?

the server has 4gig of RAM, with KVA_PAGES set to 512 and the above
settings for VM_KMEM_SIZE* ...

As for switching slots, difficult as the server is a remote server ... :(


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Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote:
> Michael Sierchio <kudzu@tenebras.com> writes:
> 
>>What a mind-blowingly stupid thing to say.  If the concern is
>>with stability and performance,  one would track -SECURITY and
>>not -STABLE.
> 
> 
> What a mind-blowingly stupid thing to say.

You expect stability from pre-release software (i.e. "beta")?
You're surprised that the integration of new features breaks
working systems?  You think the yen for the latest rev is good
for a production environment?  Are the five best years in a
Norwegian's life still spent in the first grade?


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On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote:

> Michael Sierchio <kudzu@tenebras.com> writes:
> > What a mind-blowingly stupid thing to say.  If the concern is
> > with stability and performance,  one would track -SECURITY and
> > not -STABLE.
>
> What a mind-blowingly stupid thing to say.

Agreed ... -SECURITY is less stable then -STABLE in my environment ...
been there, done that, got the t-shirt ...


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Marc G. Fournier wrote:

> On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Scott Long wrote:
>
>
> >Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> >
> >>Evening all ...
> >>
> >>  I have an Intel server (SVW7500, or some designation like that) setup
> >>with an Adaptec 2120S controller in it:
> >>
> >>aac0:  mem 0xf8000000-0xfbffffff irq 2 at device 9.0 on pci1
> >>aac0: i960RX 100MHz, 48MB cache memory, optional battery present
> >>aac0: Kernel 4.0-0, Build 5770, S/N 232fb7
> >>
> >>  Originally, when we installed it, we had a problem where, while 
> booting,
> >>you would suddenly get the 'aac timeout' message scroll up the screen,
> >>that has/had since been fixed ...
> >>
> >>  Yesterday, after doing some work on one of our servers to increase 
> the #
> >>of vnodes, I added and built a new kernel with:
> >>
> >>options         VM_KMEM_SIZE="(400*1024*1024)"
> >>options         VM_KMEM_SIZE_MAX="(400*1024*1024)"
> >>
> >>   Which I have running on venus (its using an AMI RAID card) 
> without any
> >>hassles ... upon reboot of the Adaptec/Intel server, I once more am
> >>getting the Timeouts and inability to boot ... a kernel built 10 minutes
> >>earlier, without those options, but the exact same code, runs fine, so
> >>something with the VM_KMEM_SIZE increase is causing the problem ...
> >>
> >>   Help?
> >
> >I'll investigate why this happens.  How much physical RAM do you have in
> >the system?  Can you put the card on the other PCI bus that's on that
> >motherboard and see if there is any difference?
>
>
> the server has 4gig of RAM, with KVA_PAGES set to 512 and the above
> settings for VM_KMEM_SIZE* ...
>
> As for switching slots, difficult as the server is a remote server ... :(

There are some strange interactions in the aac firmware when you get to
4GB of RAM.  I'm not sure if I have enough of the right kind of DIMM
sticks to populate my 7500WV2 motherboard to 4GB, so would you mind
doing some tests for me?  If the aac driver is compiled into the kernel,
add the line 'options aac_DEBUG' to teh config file and rebuild.  You'll
also have to edit /sys/conf/files and remove the '#' at the beginning of
the line that contains 'aac_debug.c'.  If you load it as a module, then
edit /sys/modules/aac/Makefile and remove the '#' before the two lines
at the bottom that are marked as being for debugging purposes.  Once you
have debugging enabled, send me a console log that shows your complete
dmesg and the output given when commands start timing out.

Thanks!

Scott


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On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Michael Sierchio wrote:

> Vallo Kallaste wrote:
>
> > He has rather unusual requirements compared to a lot of others. As I
> > understand he runs hundreds of jails and has thousands of processes,
> > putting real challenge to VM. All this means that FreeBSD
> > isn't ready to enterprise yet ....
>
> What a mind-blowingly stupid thing to say.  If the concern is
> with stability and performance,  one would track -SECURITY and
> not -STABLE.

Actually, I've tried -SECURITY ... my servers crashed more often :)  And
have you ever tried to get someone to investigate/fix something that is
considered a 'dead line'?  The thing with -SECURITY is that its exactly
that ... no bug fixes go into it, only critical security stuff ... so, if
I were to report a bug on -SECURITY, it would most likely get ignored,
since there is a very good chance that its already fixed in -STABLE, but
nobody is going to back-patch it ...



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On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Wes Peters wrote:

> > As Vallo says above ... the 'bug' that Tor helped me fix this past
> > week, with vnlru_proc, being a good example ... how many ppl are
> > running their server with 132 active mount points?  From what I can
> > tell, the bugs I'm hitting are all 'fringe bugs', stuff that you really
> > have to be doing something extreme to hit ... but, as such, if I can
> > get the bug fixed, its also one less bug that has the chance of hurting
> > someone else ...
>
> Yes, indeed, and I suspect bugs like that generally get fixed a lot faster
> here than when you submit a similar bug report in Solaris or HP-UX.

Solaris fixes bugs?

Seriously though, I really can't say that I can complain about the speed
and effort that bugs get fixed ... the bug I just experienced with vnodes,
Tor did one better (for which I *really* appreciate) ... he guided me, and
forced me, to figure out what was wrong and come up with a solution ... he
ended up doing the final patch, since there is no way I would have been
able to come up with the same solution (nor as cleanly), but I
*understood* what his patch did by the time we were finished ... even when
Matt helped with some VM issues awhile back, the messages that he
included me in literally flew over my head, but I appreciate having been
kept in that loop, and know I've absorb bits and pieces that will help
improve my understanding ...

> Being worked on.  Not so hard to do, much harder to do right.  Guess who
> took the easy sleazy path? ;^)  The other good news is that the intel
> network cards, both 10/100 (fxp) and 10/100/1000 (em) support 64-bit
> addressing, even in 32-bit PCI slots, so you'll have at least ONE enet
> interface that'll work reasonably fast.

Yes, I don't recall who it was that explained it to me (Terry, maybe?),
but I understand the problem with going above 4gig under ia32, and was
personally just sitting back and waiting for Intel to go full steam ahead
on the ia64 stuff ... but they just sacked it :(  Man, did that ever throw
a shiver up my back ...


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not as far as I'm aware ...

On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Mike Jakubik wrote:

> Hi, im just wondering if you know whether these patches were MFC'd to STABLE
> yet.
>
> Thanks.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Marc G. Fournier
> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 2:28 PM
> To: Wes Peters
> Cc: Vallo Kallaste; David Schultz; freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: Re: "leak" in softupdates?
>
>
> On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Wes Peters wrote:
>
> > > As Vallo says above ... the 'bug' that Tor helped me fix this past
> > > week, with vnlru_proc, being a good example ... how many ppl are
> > > running their server with 132 active mount points?  From what I can
> > > tell, the bugs I'm hitting are all 'fringe bugs', stuff that you really
> > > have to be doing something extreme to hit ... but, as such, if I can
> > > get the bug fixed, its also one less bug that has the chance of hurting
> > > someone else ...
> >
> > Yes, indeed, and I suspect bugs like that generally get fixed a lot faster
> > here than when you submit a similar bug report in Solaris or HP-UX.
>
> Solaris fixes bugs?
>
> Seriously though, I really can't say that I can complain about the speed
> and effort that bugs get fixed ... the bug I just experienced with vnodes,
> Tor did one better (for which I *really* appreciate) ... he guided me, and
> forced me, to figure out what was wrong and come up with a solution ... he
> ended up doing the final patch, since there is no way I would have been
> able to come up with the same solution (nor as cleanly), but I
> *understood* what his patch did by the time we were finished ... even when
> Matt helped with some VM issues awhile back, the messages that he
> included me in literally flew over my head, but I appreciate having been
> kept in that loop, and know I've absorb bits and pieces that will help
> improve my understanding ...
>
> > Being worked on.  Not so hard to do, much harder to do right.  Guess who
> > took the easy sleazy path? ;^)  The other good news is that the intel
> > network cards, both 10/100 (fxp) and 10/100/1000 (em) support 64-bit
> > addressing, even in 32-bit PCI slots, so you'll have at least ONE enet
> > interface that'll work reasonably fast.
>
> Yes, I don't recall who it was that explained it to me (Terry, maybe?),
> but I understand the problem with going above 4gig under ia32, and was
> personally just sitting back and waiting for Intel to go full steam ahead
> on the ia64 stuff ... but they just sacked it :(  Man, did that ever throw
> a shiver up my back ...
>
>
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At a certain time, now past [Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 03:19:49PM -0400], Marc G. Fournier spake thusly:
> On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Michael Sierchio wrote:
> 
> > Vallo Kallaste wrote:
> >
> > > He has rather unusual requirements compared to a lot of others. As I
> > > understand he runs hundreds of jails and has thousands of processes,
> > > putting real challenge to VM. All this means that FreeBSD
> > > isn't ready to enterprise yet ....
> >
> > What a mind-blowingly stupid thing to say.  If the concern is
> > with stability and performance,  one would track -SECURITY and
> > not -STABLE.
> 
> Actually, I've tried -SECURITY ... my servers crashed more often :)  And

I would think that such a problem speaks more toward the quality of the
FreeBSD release that you choose to run...or your hardware...or God knows
what...

When you hunted down the cause of the crash...what exactly was it?  I've got
servers tracking the release branch that have been up for anywhere from 6
to 9 months.  Before that, I was flirting w/ a year.

> have you ever tried to get someone to investigate/fix something that is
> considered a 'dead line'?  The thing with -SECURITY is that its exactly
> that ... no bug fixes go into it, only critical security stuff ... so, if
> I were to report a bug on -SECURITY, it would most likely get ignored,
> since there is a very good chance that its already fixed in -STABLE, but
> nobody is going to back-patch it ...

Bugs do get fixed in the release branch, just depends on the severity.

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvs-tags.html

That said...

My case [I've had wonderful success running the release branch] is no
weightier than yours [you've had wonderful success running -STABLE].  Too
many details left out...

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/current-stable.html

       ~elh

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Thus spake Marc G. Fournier <scrappy@hub.org>:
> > David Schultz wrote:
> > > I don't know why VM_KMEM_SIZE would tickle a RAID controller
> > > problem, but I've seen timeout message similar to the one you
> > > describe with a flaky SCSI controller.  (Try statically compiling
> > > all relevant drivers into the kernel if you're not already.)  The
> > > fix for me was to reduce the tag depth with camcontrol.  Try a
> > > value around 8 or so; there shouldn't be much, if any, of a
> > > performance difference.
> > >
> > > 	camcontrol tags devicename -N8
> > >
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> > The aac driver does not use the CAM SCSI interface for accessing its
> > RAID arrays, so changing parameters there will have no effect.
> 
> Oh good, I thought I was doing something wrong when I kept getting errors
> trying to access it through camcontrol :)

Brain fart, my apologies.  aac != ahc

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Thus spake Marc G. Fournier <scrappy@hub.org>:
> > Being worked on.  Not so hard to do, much harder to do right.  Guess who
> > took the easy sleazy path? ;^)  The other good news is that the intel
> > network cards, both 10/100 (fxp) and 10/100/1000 (em) support 64-bit
> > addressing, even in 32-bit PCI slots, so you'll have at least ONE enet
> > interface that'll work reasonably fast.
> 
> Yes, I don't recall who it was that explained it to me (Terry, maybe?),
> but I understand the problem with going above 4gig under ia32, and was
> personally just sitting back and waiting for Intel to go full steam ahead
> on the ia64 stuff ... but they just sacked it :(  Man, did that ever throw
> a shiver up my back ...

It's amazing how many times bank switching has been reinvented, eh?

FreeBSD now runs on sparc64, you know, and that's an architecture
that's designed for Really Big Machines.  Sun has 128-processor
machines with 512 GB of RAM running Solaris.  Just think about it:
all of your problems about address space size and KVA_PAGES
conveniently vanish for the low, low price of 10 million dollars.  ;-)
Granted, the FreeBSD port may take some time to mature, and you'd
be journeying once again into uncharted territory if you tried it
on a machine that big.

There is also x86-64 around the corner, which is not aesthetically
pleasing in that it's just another hack on top of the
idiosyncratic 8086, but AMD seems to have tried to address most of
the fundamental problems with x86, such as the shortage of
general-purpose registers.

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I'm not sure if this is the correct place to post this since most
discussion seems to be related to the 4-STABLE branch.  Please feel
free to redirect me if necessary.

I am having problems with the pcn driver for the AMD PCnet fast ethernet
chip on a PC (Intel PII 400MHz) running FreeBSD 5.0-RELEASE.  I can configure
the interface but it does not seem to work.  I'm sorry that I don't have
more diagnostic information, but I don't know what else to check.  Here's
what I have:

From dmesg:

pcib2: device pcn0 requested decoded I/O range 0x7ce0-0x7cff
pcn0: <AMD PCnet/PCI 10/100BaseTX> port 0x7ce0-0x7cff mem 0xfdfff400-0xfdfff41f
irq 9 at device 5.0 on pci2
pcn0: Ethernet address: 00:60:b0:3d:06:1e
miibus0: <MII bus> on pcn0


Interface configuration:

# ifconfig pcn0 inet 15.0.65.119 netmask 0xfffff800
# ifconfig pcn0
pcn0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
	inet6 fe80::260:b0ff:fe3d:61e%pcn0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
	inet 15.0.65.119 netmask 0xfffff800 broadcast 15.0.71.255
	ether 00:60:b0:3d:06:1e
	media: Ethernet autoselect (100BaseTX <full-duplex>)
	status: active

I can ping the interface address, but can not ping other hosts on the
same subnet.  The hardware is known to work with other OS's.

Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks,
-brian


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On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 08:50:38AM -0800, Greg Smith wrote:
> Gunnar,
> 
> Did you have pccardd running?  With pccard_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf
> or wherever it might go in 5.0.  
> 
> It won't be automatically started with NEWCARD.

Yes, it was activated. i.e it says pccard_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf
but it isn't running when I look closer after a boot, so I added
pccardd_flags="-z" which used to help. But not this time.

When I put a card in the port it says:
end (ffffffff) > sc->memlimit (803fffff)
pccard0: Card has no functions!
cbb0: PC Card card activation failed

And that's it.

So I put in the pccardd_flags="-z"

But that makes no difference. The machine doesn't like pccard when
running CURRENT.
> 
> Greg
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> 
> >OK! So now I've also tested with OLDCARD. It isn't any better. Result:
> >pccard: card inserted, slot 0
> >
> >And that's it. It doesn't detect the card or inform anything more.
> >
> >So should I say that this brand new Compaq Laptop is NO GO for FreeBSD
> >CURRENT? Just to inform you, I've tried Linux RedHat 8 and Mandrake of
> >some brand (8.x probably) with even worse result. They don't even
> boot.
> >
> >So it seems Compaq has done it. Being totally dedicated to M$
> >
> >Boring. I won't ever buy a Compaq laptop again. Pity I didn't stay
> >with Toshiba. Had only good things to say about my Tecra 9100.
> >Until it died electrically for me.
> >
> >-- 
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> 

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On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 11:19:58PM +0100, Gunnar Flygt wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 08:50:38AM -0800, Greg Smith wrote:
> > Gunnar,
> > 
> > Did you have pccardd running?  With pccard_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf
> > or wherever it might go in 5.0.  
> > 
> > It won't be automatically started with NEWCARD.
> 
> Yes, it was activated. i.e it says pccard_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf
> but it isn't running when I look closer after a boot, so I added
> pccardd_flags="-z" which used to help. But not this time.
> 
> When I put a card in the port it says:
> end (ffffffff) > sc->memlimit (803fffff)
> pccard0: Card has no functions!
> cbb0: PC Card card activation failed

My EVO N160 is slightly different (NEWCARD works) but it
moans a bit as well:

cbb0: <TI1410 PCI-CardBus Bridge> irq 10 at device 6.0 on pci2
start (88000000) < sc->membase (d0200000)
end (ffffffff) > sc->memlimit (d02fffff)
cardbus0: <CardBus bus> on cbb0
pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0

For OLDCARD I have to set 

hint.pcic.0.maddr="0xd0000"

Just a datapoint.

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Sources updated 04:06 on 6th March. Installed today and during boot
dhclient hangs for some minutes and logs the following:

dhclient: New Network Number: 68.98.160.0
dhclient: New Broadcast Address: 68.98.175.255
dhclient: New IP Address (dc0): 68.98.167.210
dhclient: New Subnet Mask (dc0): 255.255.240.0
dhclient: New Broadcast Address (dc0): 68.98.175.255
dhclient: New Routers: 68.98.160.1
dhclient: /home/src/sbin/dhclient/client/../../../contrib/isc-dhcp/client/dhclient.c(2018): null pointer

Note that IP, mask and route are updated. It may be worth noting that this
is a new lease, which is very unusual for my ISP. This could be a
conincidence, but is highly unlikely.

The last update includes the following changes :

 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/COPYRIGHT
  Add delta 1.1.1.1.2.2 2003.03.02.16.42.37 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/FREEBSD-upgrade
  Add delta 1.9.2.5 2003.03.02.16.42.37 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/Makefile
  Add delta 1.1.1.1.2.2 2003.03.02.16.42.37 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/Makefile.conf
  Add delta 1.1.1.1.2.4 2003.03.02.16.42.37 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/Makefile.dist
  Add delta 1.1.1.1.2.3 2003.03.02.16.42.37 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/README
  Add delta 1.1.1.6.2.6 2003.03.02.16.42.37 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/RELNOTES
  Add delta 1.1.1.6.2.6 2003.03.02.16.42.37 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/client/Makefile.dist
  Add delta 1.1.1.1.2.4 2003.03.02.16.42.37 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/client/clparse.c
  Add delta 1.4.2.4 2003.03.02.16.42.37 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/client/dhclient-script.8
  Add delta 1.5.2.5 2003.03.02.16.42.37 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/client/dhclient.8
  Add delta 1.8.2.4 2003.03.02.16.42.37 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/client/dhclient.c
  Add delta 1.9.2.7 2003.03.02.16.42.37 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/client/dhclient.conf.5
  Add delta 1.7.2.2 2003.03.02.16.42.38 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/client/dhclient.leases.5
  Add delta 1.2.4.2 2003.03.02.16.42.38 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/client/scripts/freebsd
  Add delta 1.9.2.6 2003.03.02.16.42.38 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/common/alloc.c
  Add delta 1.1.1.3.2.2 2003.03.02.16.42.38 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/common/bpf.c
  Add delta 1.1.1.5.2.2 2003.03.02.16.42.38 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/common/comapi.c
  Add delta 1.1.1.1.2.2 2003.03.02.16.42.38 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/common/conflex.c
  Add delta 1.1.1.3.2.2 2003.03.02.16.42.38 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/common/ctrace.c
  Add delta 1.1.1.1.2.2 2003.03.02.16.42.38 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/common/dhcp-eval.5
  Add delta 1.1.1.1.2.2 2003.03.02.16.42.38 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/common/dhcp-options.5
  Add delta 1.2.2.2 2003.03.02.16.42.38 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/common/discover.c
  Add delta 1.1.1.1.2.2 2003.03.02.16.42.38 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/common/dispatch.c
  Add delta 1.1.1.4.2.3 2003.03.02.16.42.38 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/common/dlpi.c
  Add delta 1.1.1.1.2.2 2003.03.02.16.42.38 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/common/dns.c
  Add delta 1.1.1.2.2.2 2003.03.02.16.42.38 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/common/ethernet.c
  Add delta 1.1.1.1.4.3 2003.03.02.16.42.38 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/common/execute.c
  Add delta 1.1.1.1.2.2 2003.03.02.16.42.38 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/common/fddi.c
  Add delta 1.1.1.1.2.2 2003.03.02.16.42.38 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/common/icmp.c
  Add delta 1.1.1.2.2.2 2003.03.02.16.42.38 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/common/inet.c
  Add delta 1.1.1.2.2.2 2003.03.02.16.42.38 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/common/lpf.c
  Add delta 1.1.1.4.2.3 2003.03.02.16.42.38 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/common/memory.c
  Add delta 1.1.1.3.2.2 2003.03.02.16.42.38 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/common/nit.c
  Add delta 1.1.1.4.2.2 2003.03.02.16.42.38 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/common/options.c
  Add delta 1.1.1.3.2.4 2003.03.02.16.42.38 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/common/packet.c
  Add delta 1.1.1.3.2.2 2003.03.02.16.42.38 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/common/parse.c
  Add delta 1.1.1.3.2.2 2003.03.02.16.42.38 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/common/print.c
  Add delta 1.1.1.3.2.2 2003.03.02.16.42.38 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/common/raw.c
  Add delta 1.1.1.3.2.3 2003.03.02.16.42.38 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/common/resolv.c
  Add delta 1.1.1.1.2.2 2003.03.02.16.42.38 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/common/socket.c
  Add delta 1.1.1.4.2.3 2003.03.02.16.42.38 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/common/tables.c
  Add delta 1.5.2.4 2003.03.02.16.42.38 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/common/tr.c
  Add delta 1.1.1.1.4.2 2003.03.02.16.42.38 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/common/tree.c
  Add delta 1.1.1.1.4.2 2003.03.02.16.42.38 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/common/upf.c
  Add delta 1.1.1.4.2.2 2003.03.02.16.42.39 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/configure
  Add delta 1.1.1.1.2.3 2003.03.02.16.42.37 murray
 Checkout src/contrib/isc-dhcp/dhcpctl/Makefile.dist
 Checkout src/contrib/isc-dhcp/dhcpctl/callback.c
 Checkout src/contrib/isc-dhcp/dhcpctl/cltest.c
 Checkout src/contrib/isc-dhcp/dhcpctl/dhcpctl.3
 Checkout src/contrib/isc-dhcp/dhcpctl/dhcpctl.c
 Checkout src/contrib/isc-dhcp/dhcpctl/dhcpctl.h
 Checkout src/contrib/isc-dhcp/dhcpctl/omshell.1
 Checkout src/contrib/isc-dhcp/dhcpctl/omshell.c
 Checkout src/contrib/isc-dhcp/dhcpctl/remote.c
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/dst/Makefile.dist
  Add delta 1.1.1.1.2.2 2003.03.02.16.42.39 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/dst/dst_api.c
  Add delta 1.1.1.1.2.2 2003.03.02.16.42.39 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/dst/dst_support.c
  Add delta 1.1.1.1.2.2 2003.03.02.16.42.40 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/dst/hmac_link.c
  Add delta 1.1.1.1.2.2 2003.03.02.16.42.40 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/dst/prandom.c
  Add delta 1.1.1.1.2.2 2003.03.02.16.42.40 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/includes/cf/freebsd.h
  Add delta 1.3.4.2 2003.03.02.16.42.40 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/includes/dhcpd.h
  Add delta 1.1.1.4.2.4 2003.03.02.16.42.40 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/includes/osdep.h
  Add delta 1.1.1.4.2.3 2003.03.02.16.42.40 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/includes/site.h
  Add delta 1.1.1.1.4.2 2003.03.02.16.42.40 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/includes/version.h
  Add delta 1.1.1.1.4.7 2003.03.02.16.42.40 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/minires/ns_name.c
  Add delta 1.1.1.1.2.2 2003.03.02.16.42.40 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/minires/ns_samedomain.c
  Add delta 1.1.1.1.2.2 2003.03.02.16.42.40 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/minires/ns_sign.c
  Add delta 1.1.1.1.2.2 2003.03.02.16.42.40 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/minires/res_findzonecut.c
  Add delta 1.1.1.1.2.2 2003.03.02.16.42.40 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/minires/res_send.c
  Add delta 1.1.1.1.2.2 2003.03.02.16.42.40 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/omapip/alloc.c
  Add delta 1.1.1.1.2.2 2003.03.02.16.42.40 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/omapip/convert.c
  Add delta 1.1.1.1.2.2 2003.03.02.16.42.40 murray
 Edit src/contrib/isc-dhcp/omapip/message.c
  Add delta 1.1.1.1.2.2 2003.03.02.16.42.40 murray

There have been no updates to isc-dhcp since these, according to cvsup
from a few moments ago.

# uname -srv
FreeBSD 4.8-RC FreeBSD 4.8-RC #0: Thu Mar  6 07:53:57 EST 2003     root@hal9000.halplant.com:/.disk/obj/home/src/sys/HAL9000 

More systems details at http://halplant.com:88/server/config/

I've not seen mention of this in the list and don't see anything in the
-questions archive either.


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** Reply to message from Eric Anholt <eta@lclark.edu> on 07 Mar 2003 08:57:25
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> > Is it necessary to deinstall XFree86 4.2 before installing the 4.3 patches?
> 
> It should work just fine, as long as you have both of the patches.

I ended up having to run pkg_delete on all of the 4.2 XFree-86 packages before
I was able to build 4.3. But I suppose that could be because I don't know the
right way to install an update. Here's what I did:

1) Download both patch files.
2) Run the -11 patch from /usr/ports.
3) Run the make patch from the /usr/ports/Mk.
4) Run 'make' from /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4.

The only thing that resulted from step 4 was a few console messages indicating
that everything was already done.

5) Run 'make clean' from /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4.
6) Run 'make' again.

Same thing.

7) Run pkg_delete on all XFree86 packages found using 'ls -l /var/db/pkg/XF*'
(I had to use -f on one of them).
8) Run 'make' again.

This time, things started building.

9) Run 'make install'.

Which finished building everything and installed everything.

10) Run 'xf86config'.
11) Run 'startx'.

Success! Most imporantly, I can use the mouse again (with 4.2, any movement of
the mouse caused the mouse cursor to disappear off the bottom of the screen).

I use cvsup to update both ports and source and the last time I ran cvsup in
ports was a day or two ago, which is why I was able to use the -11 patch.

Would the build and installation have worked properly if I had simply run 'make
install' instead of 'make' in step 4?

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On Fri, 2003-03-07 at 15:47, postmaster@netfang.net wrote:
> Would the build and installation have worked properly if I had simply run 'make
> install' instead of 'make' in step 4?

It would have made sure that the component parts were installed.  The
ports system can't ensure things are updated, though, so you need to use
a tool like portupgrade to make sure that everything is updated.

-- 
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On Fri, 2003-03-07 at 01:52, Gunnar Flygt wrote:
> cvsuped a few minutes ago the ports tree. In all of the directories
> connected to XFree86-4 4.3.0 the pkg-comment is missing. Therefore 
> patches don't apply clean.
> 
> Used the ver -11 of the pacthes leading to 4.3.0

The -12 patches at the site now should fix that.
http://people.freebsd.org/~anholt/X/files.html

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Here's some more background information, as requested by a private responder:

# netstat -rn -f inet
Routing tables

Internet:
Destination        Gateway            Flags    Refs      Use  Netif Expire
default	           15.0.71.254        UGSc     0         0    pcn0
15.0.64/21         link#1             UC       2         0    pcn0
15.0.64.12         link#1             UHRLW    0         12   pcn0       9
15.0.71.254        link#1             UHLW     1         0    pcn0
127.0.0.1          127.0.0.1          UH       0         0     lo0

I don't know where the 15.0.64.12 route came from.  It might be the IP
address of a DHCP server.  I was using dhclient to configure the interface
initially but it would always time out, leaving the interface "UP" but
configured with 0.0.0.0 address.

Rebooting the system without configuring the network interface resulted
in the same routing table except without the 15.0.64.12 entry.

Thanks,
-brian

--- Brian O'Shea <b_oshea@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I'm not sure if this is the correct place to post this since most
> discussion seems to be related to the 4-STABLE branch.  Please feel
> free to redirect me if necessary.
> 
> I am having problems with the pcn driver for the AMD PCnet fast ethernet
> chip on a PC (Intel PII 400MHz) running FreeBSD 5.0-RELEASE.  I can configure
> the interface but it does not seem to work.  I'm sorry that I don't have
> more diagnostic information, but I don't know what else to check.  Here's
> what I have:
> 
> From dmesg:
> 
> pcib2: device pcn0 requested decoded I/O range 0x7ce0-0x7cff
> pcn0: <AMD PCnet/PCI 10/100BaseTX> port 0x7ce0-0x7cff mem
> 0xfdfff400-0xfdfff41f
> irq 9 at device 5.0 on pci2
> pcn0: Ethernet address: 00:60:b0:3d:06:1e
> miibus0: <MII bus> on pcn0
> 
> 
> Interface configuration:
> 
> # ifconfig pcn0 inet 15.0.65.119 netmask 0xfffff800
> # ifconfig pcn0
> pcn0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
> 	inet6 fe80::260:b0ff:fe3d:61e%pcn0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
> 	inet 15.0.65.119 netmask 0xfffff800 broadcast 15.0.71.255
> 	ether 00:60:b0:3d:06:1e
> 	media: Ethernet autoselect (100BaseTX <full-duplex>)
> 	status: active
> 
> I can ping the interface address, but can not ping other hosts on the
> same subnet.  The hardware is known to work with other OS's.
> 
> Any help would be much appreciated.
> Thanks,
> -brian
> 
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On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, David Schultz wrote:

> Thus spake Marc G. Fournier <scrappy@hub.org>:
> > > Being worked on.  Not so hard to do, much harder to do right.  Guess who
> > > took the easy sleazy path? ;^)  The other good news is that the intel
> > > network cards, both 10/100 (fxp) and 10/100/1000 (em) support 64-bit
> > > addressing, even in 32-bit PCI slots, so you'll have at least ONE enet
> > > interface that'll work reasonably fast.
> >
> > Yes, I don't recall who it was that explained it to me (Terry, maybe?),
> > but I understand the problem with going above 4gig under ia32, and was
> > personally just sitting back and waiting for Intel to go full steam ahead
> > on the ia64 stuff ... but they just sacked it :(  Man, did that ever throw
> > a shiver up my back ...
>
> It's amazing how many times bank switching has been reinvented, eh?

Just curious here, but with the speed of CPUs nowadays, how much impact
would bank switching have on performance?


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On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Michael Sierchio wrote:

> Marc G. Fournier wrote:
>
> > As for 'the enterprise', I think the only thing that I really find about
> > FreeBSD that 'hurts' is that I can't go above the 4Gig of RAM limit within
> > ia32, even though there are boards that do support it ...
>
> This is definitely an area of concern, and I *am* glad that you're
> doing boundary testing ;-)
>
> The biggest obstacles to adoption in the enterprise aren't technical,
> however.  It's all about mind share,  and IT staff tolerate all
> manner of stupid limitations from Sun, HP, IBM, etc.

Actually, one of our techs (I work at a University) got a call from IBM
the other day wondering what RAID controller we were using with our IBM
Servers, since another University is looking at buying a server from them
and will be running FreeBSD on it ... they know we're running it and keep
beating them up over it, so turned to us for advice ... very scary ...


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On Friday, March 7, 2003, at 08:29  pm, Eric L Howard wrote:

> At a certain time, now past [Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 03:19:49PM -0400], 
> Marc G. Fournier spake thusly:
>> [...] Bugs do get fixed in the release branch, just depends on the 
>> severity.
>
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvs-tags.html
>
> That said...
>
> My case [I've had wonderful success running the release branch] is no
> weightier than yours [you've had wonderful success running -STABLE].  
> Too
> many details left out...

Yes, me too. Not huge numbers of jails/terabyte file systems, etc... 
but crunching a large department with biggish clinical databases, 
intranet, windows/mac networking/printing, email, network glue etc, 
etc... on a couple of 586 class servers with uptimes of over 365 days 
and excellent response times throughout the entire period. I really 
don't have any complaints about the stability of FreeBSD-STABLE.

Robin Melville
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It seems that the pcn driver has been broken sometime after 4.3 & before
4.4. I've got the same problems with the driver in 4.5 up to 4.8. I can
make hardware available remotely via ssh over the internet if someone
wants to work on it. Test box is an IBM Netfinity 5500 w/quad 550Mhz P-III
Xeon, AMD 79C971 on m/b w/ Nat. Semi PHI, AMD 79C971 w/ LevelI PHY on PCI
card, Intel 82559 for primary network connectivity as well for test system,
and another machine to gain console access and reach the AMD test
interfaces. Also a Cisco switch with console access to the switch to allow
looking at the network. 

This is a copy of the message that I had posted to freebsd-net:

- On the same basic subject - it seems that sometime after the release of
- FreeBSD 4.3 the pcn ethernet driver was broken. I did find PR kern/34071
- which indicated that the driver was broken in 4.5RC2. I've tried the
- following versions of FreeBSD from the fixit CDROMS:
-
-       4.3 - works fine
-       4.4 - doesn't work - ping can't get to the outside world (host
- unreachable - it's a directly connected machine I'm trying to ping...),
- though interface status info appears good as reported by ifconfig. Media &
- mediaopt options don't seem to make any difference. While the line will go
- to half-duplex or 10baseT/UTP modes, it doesn't solve the problem of not
- getting bits out the door...
-
-       4.5 - same as 4.4
-
-       4.6.2 - doesn't work - after ifconfig'ing the interface with an IP
- address & such, ifconfig reports that the interface is in hardware
- loopback. This is confirmed by the loss of link status on the switch the
- interface is connected to. Media & mediaopt options don't change this
- state.
-        4.7 - same as 4.6.2
-        4.8-prerelease - same as 4.6.2
-
-        5.0 - has the same issues as 4.6.2.
-
- The main interest in this driver is that IBM uses the AMD 79C971 chip with
- a National Semiconductor DP83840 PHY on the motherboard in the
- Netfinity 5500 server. The 79C971 chip with a Level 1 PHY is used in their
- fault tolerant 10/100 PCI NIC of the same vintage. I've got a number of
- these machines that I need/want to run FreeBSD on.

Cheers,
	Dexter McNeil

On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 04:26:39PM -0800, Brian O'Shea wrote:
> Here's some more background information, as requested by a private responder:
> 
> # netstat -rn -f inet
> Routing tables
> 
> Internet:
> Destination        Gateway            Flags    Refs      Use  Netif Expire
> default	           15.0.71.254        UGSc     0         0    pcn0
> 15.0.64/21         link#1             UC       2         0    pcn0
> 15.0.64.12         link#1             UHRLW    0         12   pcn0       9
> 15.0.71.254        link#1             UHLW     1         0    pcn0
> 127.0.0.1          127.0.0.1          UH       0         0     lo0
> 
> I don't know where the 15.0.64.12 route came from.  It might be the IP
> address of a DHCP server.  I was using dhclient to configure the interface
> initially but it would always time out, leaving the interface "UP" but
> configured with 0.0.0.0 address.
> 
> Rebooting the system without configuring the network interface resulted
> in the same routing table except without the 15.0.64.12 entry.
> 
> Thanks,
> -brian
> 
> --- Brian O'Shea <b_oshea@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I'm not sure if this is the correct place to post this since most
> > discussion seems to be related to the 4-STABLE branch.  Please feel
> > free to redirect me if necessary.
> > 
> > I am having problems with the pcn driver for the AMD PCnet fast ethernet
> > chip on a PC (Intel PII 400MHz) running FreeBSD 5.0-RELEASE.  I can configure
> > the interface but it does not seem to work.  I'm sorry that I don't have
> > more diagnostic information, but I don't know what else to check.  Here's
> > what I have:
> > 
> > From dmesg:
> > 
> > pcib2: device pcn0 requested decoded I/O range 0x7ce0-0x7cff
> > pcn0: <AMD PCnet/PCI 10/100BaseTX> port 0x7ce0-0x7cff mem
> > 0xfdfff400-0xfdfff41f
> > irq 9 at device 5.0 on pci2
> > pcn0: Ethernet address: 00:60:b0:3d:06:1e
> > miibus0: <MII bus> on pcn0
> > 
> > 
> > Interface configuration:
> > 
> > # ifconfig pcn0 inet 15.0.65.119 netmask 0xfffff800
> > # ifconfig pcn0
> > pcn0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
> > 	inet6 fe80::260:b0ff:fe3d:61e%pcn0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
> > 	inet 15.0.65.119 netmask 0xfffff800 broadcast 15.0.71.255
> > 	ether 00:60:b0:3d:06:1e
> > 	media: Ethernet autoselect (100BaseTX <full-duplex>)
> > 	status: active
> > 
> > I can ping the interface address, but can not ping other hosts on the
> > same subnet.  The hardware is known to work with other OS's.
> > 
> > Any help would be much appreciated.
> > Thanks,
> > -brian
> > 
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> Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 19:07:26 +0100 (CET)
> From: Oliver Fromme <olli@secnetix.de>
> Subject: Re: cdcontrol via atapicam in 4.8-RC
> 
> Mamoru Iwaki <iwaki@bc.niigata-u.ac.jp> wrote:
>  > I cannot playback music from audio CD via atapicam using cdcontrol
>  > [...]
>  > # cdcontrol -f /dev/cd1c
> 
> Did you try using cdcontrol on the ATAPI device, i.e.
> # cdcontrol -d /dev/acd0c
> ?

No, not yet.  

> using atapicam doesn't prevent you from still using it as
> an ATAPI device.  Works fine for me.

I tried that and got the following.  

% cdcontrol -f /dev/acd0c 
Compact Disc Control utility, version 2.0
Type `?' for command list

cdcontrol> info
cdcontrol: no disc in drive /dev/acd0c
cdcontrol> play
cdcontrol: no disc in drive /dev/acd0c
cdcontrol> quit

I think this result is natural in my environment.  In my kernel
configuration, there is no atapicd because atapicam is enabled.  

# ATA and ATAPI devices
#device         ata0    at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14
#device         ata1    at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15
device          ata
device          atadisk                 # ATA disk drives
#device         atapicd                 # ATAPI CDROM drives
#device         atapifd                 # ATAPI floppy drives
#device         atapist                 # ATAPI tape drives
#options        ATA_STATIC_ID           #Static device numbering
device          atapicam        # emulate ATAPI devices as SCSI ditto via CAM
                                # needs CAM to be present (scbus & pass)

I don't know possible combinations of atapicam and atapi??.
Anyway, I'll try enabling all of them, but I need a time.  

Thank you.
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On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 02:24:31PM -0800, Greg Smith wrote:
> Gunnar,
> 
> Maybe running of pccardd along with the memory setting of Kevin will do
> the job.

I just rebooted with the following setting:
hw.cbb.start_memory="0x20000000"

And now my Netgear card is detected as wi0 Will try to configure
the card to see if it is working properly :)

So it seems I'm cosing up to a solution!?
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> Greg
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> 
> >On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 08:50:38AM -0800, Greg Smith wrote:
> >> Gunnar,
> >> 
> >> Did you have pccardd running?  With pccard_enable="YES" in
> /etc/rc.conf
> >> or wherever it might go in 5.0.  
> >> 
> >> It won't be automatically started with NEWCARD.
> >
> >Yes, it was activated. i.e it says pccard_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf
> >but it isn't running when I look closer after a boot, so I added
> >pccardd_flags="-z" which used to help. But not this time.
> >
> >When I put a card in the port it says:
> >end (ffffffff) > sc->memlimit (803fffff)
> >pccard0: Card has no functions!
> >cbb0: PC Card card activation failed
> >
> >And that's it.
> >
> >So I put in the pccardd_flags="-z"
> >
> >But that makes no difference. The machine doesn't like pccard when
> >running CURRENT.
> >> 
> >> Greg
> >> 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> 
> >> >OK! So now I've also tested with OLDCARD. It isn't any better.
> Result:
> >> >pccard: card inserted, slot 0
> >> >
> >> >And that's it. It doesn't detect the card or inform anything more.
> >> >
> >> >So should I say that this brand new Compaq Laptop is NO GO for
> FreeBSD
> >> >CURRENT? Just to inform you, I've tried Linux RedHat 8 and Mandrake
> of
> >> >some brand (8.x probably) with even worse result. They don't even
> >> boot.
> >> >
> >> >So it seems Compaq has done it. Being totally dedicated to M$
> >> >
> >> >Boring. I won't ever buy a Compaq laptop again. Pity I didn't stay
> >> >with Toshiba. Had only good things to say about my Tecra 9100.
> >> >Until it died electrically for me.
> >> >
> >> >-- 
> >> >Gunnar Flygt, SR
> >> >
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> >> 
> >> 
> >
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> 
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On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 03:55:53PM -0800, Eric Anholt wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-03-07 at 01:52, Gunnar Flygt wrote:
> > cvsuped a few minutes ago the ports tree. In all of the directories
> > connected to XFree86-4 4.3.0 the pkg-comment is missing. Therefore 
> > patches don't apply clean.
> > 
> > Used the ver -11 of the pacthes leading to 4.3.0
> 
> The -12 patches at the site now should fix that.
> http://people.freebsd.org/~anholt/X/files.html

The patch applies fine, but I still have problem with:
bash-2.05b# portupgrade -R -p XFree86-FontServer
--->  Upgrading 'XFree86-FontServer-4.2.0_1' to 'XFree86-FontServer-4.3.0' (x11-
servers/XFree86-4-FontServer)
--->  Building '/usr/ports/x11-servers/XFree86-4-FontServer'
===>  Cleaning for libiconv-1.8_2
===>  Cleaning for gettext-0.11.5_1
===>  Cleaning for gmake-3.80
===>  Cleaning for imake-4.3.0
===>  Cleaning for libtool-1.3.4_4
===>  Cleaning for pkgconfig-0.15.0
===>  Cleaning for perl-5.6.1_11
===>  Cleaning for freetype2-2.1.3_1
===>  Cleaning for expat-1.95.6_1
===>  Cleaning for fontconfig-2.1_5
===>  Cleaning for XFree86-libraries-4.3.0
===>  Cleaning for XFree86-FontServer-4.3.0
===>  Extracting for XFree86-FontServer-4.3.0
>> Checksum OK for xc/X430src-1.tgz.
>> Checksum OK for xc/X430src-2.tgz.
>> Checksum OK for xc/X430src-3.tgz.
===>  Patching for XFree86-FontServer-4.3.0
===>  Applying FreeBSD patches for XFree86-FontServer-4.3.0
  I can't seem to find a patch in there anywhere.
===>   Ignoring patchfile /usr/ports/x11-servers/XFree86-4-FontServer/../../x11/
XFree86-4-libraries/files/patch-2.orig
  I can't seem to find a patch in there anywhere.
===>   Ignoring patchfile /usr/ports/x11-servers/XFree86-4-FontServer/../../x11/
XFree86-4-libraries/files/patch-DRI.orig
Ignoring previously applied (or reversed) patch.
5 out of 5 hunks ignored--saving rejects to config/cf/FreeBSD.cf.rej
>> Patch patch-FreeBSD.cf failed to apply cleanly.
>> Patch(es) patch-2 patch-DRI applied cleanly.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/x11-servers/XFree86-4-FontServer.
** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portupgrade821.4 make 
DEPENDS_TARGET=package
** Fix the problem and try again.
** The following packages were not installed or upgraded (*:skipped / !:failed)
        ! x11-servers/XFree86-4-FontServer (XFree86-FontServer-4.2.0_1) (patch e
rror)

I cvsupped right before applying the patch
> 
> -- 
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> http://people.freebsd.org/~anholt/         anholt@FreeBSD.org

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Le 2003-03-08, Mamoru Iwaki écrivait :

> I don't know possible combinations of atapicam and atapi??.
> Anyway, I'll try enabling all of them, but I need a time.  

You can enable both devices, as long as you do not try to access them
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I just happened to have a close look at the memory usage figures on
various -STABLE machines and noticed that all of them are reporting
vm.stats.vm.v_wire_count roughly 1/3 of total RAM.  (My look was
triggered by the sound of my firewall paging when I sent a query to
its named).

Having 1/3 of memory wired strikes me as excessive - especially since
none of the machines were particularly busy or doing anything that
would be mlock()ing lots of memory.  It was also consistent on 4
different machines having between 20MB and 512MB RAM and running
versions between 4.5-STABLE and 4.7-STABLE, so it isn't an anomoly
on a single machine.  "vmstat -m" doesn't suggest anything (in fact
it only accounts for about 15% of the wires pages).

Can anyone explain why so much RAM is wired?

Peter

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On  7 Mar, Eric Anholt punched keys in this particular order:
> On Fri, 2003-03-07 at 01:52, Gunnar Flygt wrote:
>> cvsuped a few minutes ago the ports tree. In all of the directories
>> connected to XFree86-4 4.3.0 the pkg-comment is missing. Therefore 
>> patches don't apply clean.
>> 
>> Used the ver -11 of the pacthes leading to 4.3.0
> 
> The -12 patches at the site now should fix that.
> http://people.freebsd.org/~anholt/X/files.html

I suppose this is planned after things install properly?:
	warning: `_POSIX_C_SOURCE' is not defined

I believe one of the patches in 4.2.1 fixed this "back then".

Wasn't this one of the reasons not to run XFree86 from source, but from
ports? I followed CVS (X) for a while, and got bitten by problems
apparently related to this (sorry, I don't know the details - they stem
from this list, though, IIRC).

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From: Thomas Quinot <thomas@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject: Re: cdcontrol via atapicam in 4.8-RC
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 10:42:47 +0100

> Le 2003-03-08, Mamoru Iwaki =E9crivait :
> =

> > I don't know possible combinations of atapicam and atapi??.
> > Anyway, I'll try enabling all of them, but I need a time.  =

> =

> You can enable both devices, as long as you do not try to access them=

> simultaneously.

Thank you, Thomas.  =

I have found atapicam(4), maybe written by you, shows its
possibility in BUGS part.  =


I changed kernel configuration as follows, i.e. all atapi?? device
are enabled.  =


# ATA and ATAPI devices
#device         ata0    at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14
#device         ata1    at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15
device          ata
device          atadisk                 # ATA disk drives
device         atapicd                 # ATAPI CDROM drives
device         atapifd                 # ATAPI floppy drives
device         atapist                 # ATAPI tape drives
#options        ATA_STATIC_ID           #Static device numbering
device          atapicam        # emulate ATAPI devices as SCSI ditto v=
ia CAM
                                # needs CAM to be present (scbus & pass=
)

Now, my new kernel has recognized cd related devices as follows.
The same ata CDROM drive(FX120T) appears twice, one is acd0 and the
other cd1.  =


% dmesg | grep 'ata\|ahc\|cd'
atapci0: <Intel PIIX3 ATA controller> port 0xefa0-0xefaf at device 7.1 =
on pci0
ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0
ahc0: <Adaptec 3940 Ultra SCSI adapter> port 0xf800-0xf8ff mem 0xff9fe0=
00-0xff9fefff irq 11 at device 4.0 on pci1
ahc1: <Adaptec 3940 Ultra SCSI adapter> port 0xfc00-0xfcff mem 0xff9ff0=
00-0xff9fffff irq 11 at device 5.0 on pci1
ata2: <Generic ESDI/IDE/ATA controller> at port 0x168-0x16f,0x36e-0x36f=
 irq 10 on isa0
ata1-slave: ATAPI identify retries exceeded
ad0: 3681MB <QUANTUM FIREBALL_TM3840A> [7480/16/63] at ata0-master WDMA=
2
ad1: 28629MB <ST330621A> [58168/16/63] at ata0-slave WDMA2
acd0: CDROM <FX120T> at ata1-master PIO3
sa0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0
da1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
da0 at ahc1 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
cd1 at ata1 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
cd1: <MITSUMI CD-ROM FX120T !B b04A> Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device =

cd1: 11.000MB/s transfers
cd1: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present=

cd0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 6 lun 0
cd0: <SONY CD-ROM CDU-76S 1.1c> Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device =

cd0: 5.681MB/s transfers (5.681MHz, offset 15)
cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present=


Under this new kernel, cdcontrol works OK for cdcontrol -f
/dev/acd0c, but still NG for cdcontrol -f /dev/cd1c.  =


As I wrote in previous email, cdcontrol -f /dev/cd0c of real SCSI CD
device works well.  =


It looks a problem between atapicam and cam subsystem for audio CD
control.  =


Thank you.  =

---
-----
Mamoru IWAKI   (iwaki@bc.niigata-u.ac.jp)
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On Sat, 8 Mar 2003 09:31:06 +0100
Gunnar Flygt <gunnar.flygt@sr.se> wrote:
> ===>   Ignoring patchfile /usr/ports/x11-servers/XFree86-4-FontServer/../../x11/
> XFree86-4-libraries/files/patch-DRI.orig
> Ignoring previously applied (or reversed) patch.
> 5 out of 5 hunks ignored--saving rejects to config/cf/FreeBSD.cf.rej
> >> Patch patch-FreeBSD.cf failed to apply cleanly.
> >> Patch(es) patch-2 patch-DRI applied cleanly.
> *** Error code 1
(snip)
> I cvsupped right before applying the patch

	Please use gpatch(devel/patch) or remove backup files(*.orig) after
	patch.

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Robert English <drakcap@pacbell.net> said
		(on Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 05:28:24PM -0800):
> More experiments are necessary before I leap to any conclusions
> on this one, but the permissions on those two files are
> currently "0644".  Before this is over, I may have to modify
> those two to "0444" as well.

My partner uses Galeon, and last night it threw up bazillions
(well, dozens) of popup windows (for the first time) and,
coincidentally, I read this thread today.

That box has never run Mozilla or Galeon as root, to my
knowledge.  If it has, then that would be my other personality,
EvilUser, and I have repressed the memories from such periods of
possession.

The aforementioned file looks as follows:

-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  154856 Dec 10 01:09
		/usr/X11R6/lib/mozilla/components/compreg.dat


FWIW,

-- 
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There's something fishy with Xkb in 4.3: whenever I try cyrillic
layouts (e.g. ru, bg, ua, etc.), I cannot type a thing (and yes,
cyrillic fonts are listed in font path). Once I change it to any
latin-based (us, pl, sk, cz, fr, etc.) -- all is ok.

Running xev shows that event is there.  Anyone seen the same
behavior/knows what may be the cause?

This is with 11th diff on a 4-5 days old -CURRENT (sorry for
cross-posting, most of 4.3 discussion was on -stable list, but this
is a -current system).  A computer is a Toshiba Portege 7200.


  -- Andrei


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Thus spake Marc G. Fournier <scrappy@hub.org>:
> On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, David Schultz wrote:
> 
> > Thus spake Marc G. Fournier <scrappy@hub.org>:
> > > > Being worked on.  Not so hard to do, much harder to do right.  Guess who
> > > > took the easy sleazy path? ;^)  The other good news is that the intel
> > > > network cards, both 10/100 (fxp) and 10/100/1000 (em) support 64-bit
> > > > addressing, even in 32-bit PCI slots, so you'll have at least ONE enet
> > > > interface that'll work reasonably fast.
> > >
> > > Yes, I don't recall who it was that explained it to me (Terry, maybe?),
> > > but I understand the problem with going above 4gig under ia32, and was
> > > personally just sitting back and waiting for Intel to go full steam ahead
> > > on the ia64 stuff ... but they just sacked it :(  Man, did that ever throw
> > > a shiver up my back ...
> >
> > It's amazing how many times bank switching has been reinvented, eh?
> 
> Just curious here, but with the speed of CPUs nowadays, how much impact
> would bank switching have on performance?

I don't know exactly what impact PAE would have on performance,
but an 8 GB PAE machine can't be worse than a 4 GB machine that's
swapping like mad.  I do know that I/O performance will suffer if
your I/O devices can't address more than 4 GB of RAM, since that
means much of your data will have to be copied to bounce buffers
below 4 GB.  Does anyone have Actual Data on how well it works?

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Michael Sierchio <kudzu@tenebras.com> writes:
> You expect stability from pre-release software (i.e. "beta")?

Actually, most of my systems run -CURRENT, and they generally do very
well.  Then again, I'm a committer.

> You're surprised that the integration of new features breaks
> working systems?  You think the yen for the latest rev is good
> for a production environment?

No, but I know for a fact that there are bugs in the 4.7 security
branch that have been fixed in -STABLE.

>                                Are the five best years in a
> Norwegian's life still spent in the first grade?

I don't know where you're trying to go with this one, as I have never
attended a Norwegian school.

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Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote:

> No, but I know for a fact that there are bugs in the 4.7 security
> branch that have been fixed in -STABLE.

No argument on that point, but PRERELEASE versions have, in my
experience, tended to break things that previously worked.  But
that's just since 2.2.2 or so.

>>                               Are the five best years in a
>>Norwegian's life still spent in the first grade?
> 
> 
> I don't know where you're trying to go with this one, as I have never
> attended a Norwegian school.

It's the punch line to an old and stupid joke, translated from Svenska.
Maybe I was caffeine-deficient at the time I wrote that.  My apologies.


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On Sat, 8 Mar 2003, Michael Sierchio wrote:

> Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote:
>
> > No, but I know for a fact that there are bugs in the 4.7 security
> > branch that have been fixed in -STABLE.
>
> No argument on that point, but PRERELEASE versions have, in my
> experience, tended to break things that previously worked.  But
> that's just since 2.2.2 or so.

Its happened ... and I get the server rebooted onto kernel.old, put in a
bug report, and try again when I see a commit message go through cvs-all
that appears to pertain to the bug ... or someone provides me with a patch
to try if I'm the only one experiencing it ...

How do you think PRERELEASE gets tested? :)  How do you think that -STABLE
stays relatively stable?

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On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Olivier Saut wrote:

> Hello,
>
> for several days, I am starting to see the following errors in my log
>
> Mar  6 20:17:54 banquo /kernel: ad0: READ command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting
> Mar  6 20:17:54 banquo /kernel: ata0: resetting devices .. ad0: DMA limited to UDMA33, non-ATA66 cable or device
> Mar  6 20:17:54 banquo /kernel: done
>
> Mar  7 12:26:15 banquo /kernel: ad0: WRITE command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting
> Mar  7 12:26:15 banquo /kernel: ata0: resetting devices .. ad0: timeout sending
> command=ec s=d0 e=00
> Mar  7 12:26:15 banquo /kernel: ad0: ATA identify failed
> Mar  7 12:26:15 banquo /kernel: ad0: timeout sending command=c6 s=d0 e=00
> Mar  7 12:26:15 banquo /kernel: ad0: timeout sending command=ef s=d0 e=00
> Mar  7 12:26:15 banquo last message repeated 4 times
> Mar  7 12:26:15 banquo /kernel: done
> Mar  7 12:26:15 banquo /kernel: ad0: timeout sending command=c5 s=d0 e=00
> Mar  7 12:26:15 banquo /kernel: ad0: error executing command - resetting
> Mar  7 12:26:15 banquo /kernel: ata0: resetting devices .. done
>
> My computer is running a recent 4-STABLE
>
> banquo% uname -a
> FreeBSD banquo 4.8-RC FreeBSD 4.8-RC #1: Thu Mar  6 18:43:38 CET 2003
>     root@banquo:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/banquo  i386
>
> with the relevant lines of dmesg
> /kernel: atapci0: <Intel ICH4 ATA100 controller> port 0xf000-0xf00f,0-0x3,0-0x7,0-0x3,0-0x7 irq 0 at device 31.1 on pci0
> /kernel: ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
> /kernel: ad0: 29314MB <IBM-DTLA-307030> [59560/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA100
>
> Should I worry for my hard drive and save for a new one?

Yes.
Please search the archives for my own experience.
Mine was, er, WERE (there have been more than one that have failed in this
manner) also a "newer" IBM drive.
Try a different cable like someone else suggested, but...
Back it up if you haven't been already.
Save for a new one.
Get ready for an RMA.
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On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Scott Long wrote:

> There are some strange interactions in the aac firmware when you get to
> 4GB of RAM.  I'm not sure if I have enough of the right kind of DIMM
> sticks to populate my 7500WV2 motherboard to 4GB, so would you mind
> doing some tests for me?  If the aac driver is compiled into the kernel,
> add the line 'options aac_DEBUG' to teh config file and rebuild.
> You'll also have to edit /sys/conf/files and remove the '#' at the
> beginning of the line that contains 'aac_debug.c'.  If you load it as a
> module, then edit /sys/modules/aac/Makefile and remove the '#' before
> the two lines at the bottom that are marked as being for debugging
> purposes.

Well, got all this done ...

> Once you have debugging enabled, send me a console log that shows your
> complete dmesg and the output given when commands start timing out.

But this one kinda screwed up the works, as the server is remote :(  This
isn't going ot be one I can easily debug from this end :(

From the description I've been given, the 'timeouts' start right after the
login: prompt is provided ...

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On Sat, 8 Mar 2003 Tor.Egge@cvsup.no.freebsd.org wrote:

> I believe the vnlru_proc was intended as a fallback method for freeing
> vnodes.  A vnode is normally added to the free list when the last page
> owned by a object of type OBJT_VNODE is freed, see vm_page_free_toq() in
> vm_page.c.

Was just thinking of this ... I just kill'd off 18 jails (and unmounted
the associated union and proc fs's) on one of the servers, and right now,
I'm seeing:

debug.numvnodes: 234726 - debug.freevnodes: 3518 - debug.vnlru_nowhere: 2 - vlruwt
debug.numvnodes: 234726 - debug.freevnodes: 3240 - debug.vnlru_nowhere: 2 - vlruwt
debug.numvnodes: 234726 - debug.freevnodes: 3064 - debug.vnlru_nowhere: 2 - vlruwt

Now, if the free vnodes are *supposed* to be auto-reclaiming, and teh
vnlru_proc is meant to provide a fallback, then is there a bug with how
vm_page_free_toq is working (or not being called, maybe?) ... ?

Similar to the problem I had mentioend in relation to softupdates?  Where
the space for files being deleted didn't look like it was being reclaimed
until the server is/was rebooted ...


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