From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 27 05:26:27 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A396737B401 for ; Sun, 27 Apr 2003 05:26:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de (krusty.dt.E-Technik.Uni-Dortmund.DE [129.217.163.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A56A43F93 for ; Sun, 27 Apr 2003 05:26:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matthias.andree@gmx.de) Received: from m2a2.dyndns.org (krusty.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.163.1])635AFA381D for ; Sun, 27 Apr 2003 14:26:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: by merlin.emma.line.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id 790C688FF8; Sun, 27 Apr 2003 14:26:14 +0200 (CEST) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20030426142745.14E165312@netcom1.netcom.com> (Mike Harding's message of "Sat, 26 Apr 2003 07:27:45 -0700 (PDT)") References: <20030426142745.14E165312@netcom1.netcom.com> From: Matthias Andree Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 14:26:14 +0200 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.090019 (Oort Gnus v0.19) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: blackmail attempt? Stable mailing list block? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 12:26:28 -0000 Mike Harding writes: > I got some weird mail back, claiming that my e-mail was blocked, w/o > indicating what server was blocked, after the mail appeared in the > mailing list. Is this some BS shakedown? I use postfix on a DSL line > forwarding to earthlink, this is hardly something that should be rare > in the BSD world... the mail appeared to come from a web mail server > and the first link has the following lovely text: [strange offer snipped] I have seen idiots apply "dialup user black lists" (aggressively promoted by MAPS LLC and Osirusoft and others) to Received: headers -- and consistently seen bounces hit the reverse path of my mailing list mail from such accounts, because the last Received: header in my mail will of course bear the IP of my private Postfix that's sitting on a DSL line in Germany, no matter if I use my ISP's relay server or not (I won't hack up my systems to accomodate the effects of other people's brain amputation). There are just some people that turn blind in their rage against spam. They'd better get working content based filtering such as bogofilter and use that instead of senseless blacklists. SCNR. -- Matthias Andree