From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 1 00:12:57 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EACAD37B401 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 00:12:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pixies.tirloni.org (pixies.tirloni.org [200.203.183.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB16243F93 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 00:12:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tirloni@tirloni.org) Received: by pixies.tirloni.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B7ED51E17D5; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 04:12:55 -0300 (BRT) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 04:12:55 -0300 From: "Giovanni P. Tirloni" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030601071255.GC123@pixies.tirloni.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-Info: http://www.tirloni.org User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i Subject: Very weird network behaviour with 4.7-RELEASE-p10 (large) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 07:12:58 -0000 Hi, I have been doing some tests using hping2 and TCP SYN pings targeting local and remote hosts from two FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE-p10 and one Linux 2.4.18 host. The three machines have the same hardware configuration and have been running for 6 months now. The average load isnt too high (usually 0.01 to 0.15) on the FreeBSD machines. Here is the output from hping2 (excuse me the line wrap), root:~# hping -S -p 80 -c 6 www.freebsd.org HPING www.freebsd.org (fxp0 216.136.204.117): S set, 40 headers + 0 data bytes len=46 ip=216.136.204.117 ttl=50 DF id=20997 sport=80 flags=SA seq=0 win=57344 rtt=212.6 ms len=46 ip=216.136.204.117 ttl=50 DF id=21140 sport=80 flags=SA seq=1 win=57344 rtt=212.3 ms len=46 ip=216.136.204.117 ttl=50 DF id=21301 sport=80 flags=SA seq=2 win=57344 rtt=212.3 ms DUP! len=46 ip=216.136.204.117 ttl=50 DF id=21494 sport=80 flags=SA seq=0 win=57344 rtt=3207.3 ms len=46 ip=216.136.204.117 ttl=50 DF id=21498 sport=80 flags=SA seq=3 win=57344 rtt=212.3 ms DUP! len=46 ip=216.136.204.117 ttl=50 DF id=21650 sport=80 flags=SA seq=1 win=57344 rtt=3209.4 ms --- www.freebsd.org hping statistic --- 5 packets tramitted, 6 packets received, -20% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max = 212.3/1211.0/3209.4 ms And tcpdump confirms this and shows more packets after hping2 was stopped, root@srv0-cta:~# tcpdump -n host 216.136.204.117 and port 80 tcpdump: listening on fxp0 03:55:07.989538 200.203.183.32.1288 > 216.136.204.117.80: S 852569665:852569665(0) win 512 03:55:08.202061 216.136.204.117.80 > 200.203.183.32.1288: S 3771704683:3771704683(0) ack 85256966603:55:11.229621 216.136.204.117.80 > 200.203.183.32.1291: S 2387314094:2387314094(0) ack 2741695 win 57344 (DF) 03:55:12.027408 200.203.183.32.1292 > 216.136.204.117.80: S 1532350261:1532350261(0) win 512 03:55:12.206721 216.136.204.117.80 > 200.203.183.32.1289: S 3305368856:3305368856(0) ack 1218353109 win 57344 (DF) 03:55:12.239377 216.136.204.117.80 > 200.203.183.32.1292: S 3378516967:3378516967(0) ack 1532350262 win 57344 (DF) 03:55:13.216677 216.136.204.117.80 > 200.203.183.32.1290: S 2652913389:2652913389(0) ack 422129860 win 57344 (DF) 03:55:14.226573 216.136.204.117.80 > 200.203.183.32.1291: S 2387314094:2387314094(0) ack 2741695 win 57344 (DF) 03:55:15.236648 216.136.204.117.80 > 200.203.183.32.1292: S 3378516967:3378516967(0) ack 1532350262 win 57344 (DF) 03:55:17.196452 216.136.204.117.80 > 200.203.183.32.1288: S 3771704683:3771704683(0) ack 852569666 win 57344 (DF) 03:55:18.206412 216.136.204.117.80 > 200.203.183.32.1289: S 3305368856:3305368856(0) ack 1218353109 win 57344 (DF) 03:55:19.216406 216.136.204.117.80 > 200.203.183.32.1290: S 2652913389:2652913389(0) ack 422129860 win 57344 (DF) 03:55:20.226331 216.136.204.117.80 > 200.203.183.32.1291: S 2387314094:2387314094(0) ack 2741695 win 57344 (DF) 03:55:21.236273 216.136.204.117.80 > 200.203.183.32.1292: S 3378516967:3378516967(0) ack 1532350262 win 57344 (DF) 03:55:29.195990 216.136.204.117.80 > 200.203.183.32.1288: S 3771704683:3771704683(0) ack 852569666 win 57344 (DF) 03:55:30.205987 216.136.204.117.80 > 200.203.183.32.1289: S 3305368856:3305368856(0) ack 1218353109 win 57344 (DF) 03:55:31.216041 216.136.204.117.80 > 200.203.183.32.1290: S 2652913389:2652913389(0) ack 422129860 win 57344 (DF) 03:55:32.225922 216.136.204.117.80 > 200.203.183.32.1291: S 2387314094:2387314094(0) ack 2741695 win 57344 (DF) 03:55:33.235869 216.136.204.117.80 > 200.203.183.32.1292: S 3378516967:3378516967(0) ack 1532350262 win 57344 (DF) Another different output from hping (strange rtt's), root@srv0-cta:~# hping -S -p 80 -c 8 www.freebsd.org HPING www.freebsd.org (fxp0 216.136.204.117): S set, 40 headers + 0 data bytes len=46 ip=216.136.204.117 ttl=50 DF id=38289 sport=80 flags=SA seq=0 win=57344 rtt=212.5 ms len=46 ip=216.136.204.117 ttl=50 DF id=38291 sport=80 flags=SA seq=0 win=57344 rtt=0.0 ms len=46 ip=216.136.204.117 ttl=50 DF id=38371 sport=80 flags=SA seq=1 win=57344 rtt=211.9 ms len=46 ip=216.136.204.117 ttl=50 DF id=38372 sport=80 flags=SA seq=0 win=57344 rtt=0.0 ms len=46 ip=216.136.204.117 ttl=50 DF id=38404 sport=80 flags=SA seq=2 win=57344 rtt=211.9 ms len=46 ip=216.136.204.117 ttl=50 DF id=38405 sport=80 flags=SA seq=0 win=57344 rtt=0.0 ms DUP! len=46 ip=216.136.204.117 ttl=50 DF id=38687 sport=80 flags=SA seq=0 win=57344 rtt=3207.3 ms len=46 ip=216.136.204.117 ttl=50 DF id=38702 sport=80 flags=SA seq=3 win=57344 rtt=212.0 ms --- www.freebsd.org hping statistic --- 4 packets tramitted, 8 packets received, -100% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max = 211.9/811.1/3207.3 ms And the tcpdump output, 04:00:57.419466 216.136.204.117.80 > 200.203.183.32.2381: S 1076154568:1076154568(0) ack 1439276851 win 57344 (DF) 04:00:58.201940 200.203.183.32.1995 > 216.136.204.117.80: S 264430648:264430648(0) win 512 04:00:58.414397 216.136.204.117.80 > 200.203.183.32.1995: S 2379854270:2379854270(0) ack 264430649 win 57344 (DF) 04:00:58.429518 216.136.204.117.80 > 200.203.183.32.2382: S 3830791941:3830791941(0) ack 451178042 win 57344 (DF) 04:00:59.206642 200.203.183.32.1996 > 216.136.204.117.80: S 1522574199:1522574199(0) win 512 04:00:59.418526 216.136.204.117.80 > 200.203.183.32.1996: S 3804689919:3804689919(0) ack 1522574200 win 57344 (DF) 04:00:59.439330 216.136.204.117.80 > 200.203.183.32.2383: S 1160193874:1160193874(0) ack 1028452909 win 57344 (DF) 04:01:00.216649 200.203.183.32.1997 > 216.136.204.117.80: S 442375938:442375938(0) win 512 04:01:00.428557 216.136.204.117.80 > 200.203.183.32.1997: S 3901380776:3901380776(0) ack 442375939 win 57344 (DF) 04:01:00.449324 216.136.204.117.80 > 200.203.183.32.2384: S 3552821723:3552821723(0) ack 1069527292 win 57344 (DF) 04:01:01.226660 200.203.183.32.1998 > 216.136.204.117.80: S 240094281:240094281(0) win 512 04:01:01.409234 216.136.204.117.80 > 200.203.183.32.1995: S 2379854270:2379854270(0) ack 264430649 win 57344 (DF) 04:01:01.438601 216.136.204.117.80 > 200.203.183.32.1998: S 4153685029:4153685029(0) ack 240094282 win 57344 (DF) 04:01:01.529193 216.136.204.117.80 > 200.203.183.32.2065: S 4017739092:4017739092(0) ack 1616120023 win 57344 (DF) 04:01:02.409213 216.136.204.117.80 > 200.203.183.32.1996: S 3804689919:3804689919(0) ack 1522574200 win 57344 (DF) 04:01:02.529165 216.136.204.117.80 > 200.203.183.32.2066: S 754183561:754183561(0) ack 1231654702 win 57344 (DF) 04:01:03.419286 216.136.204.117.80 > 200.203.183.32.1997: S 3901380776:3901380776(0) ack 442375939 win 57344 (DF) 04:01:03.539156 216.136.204.117.80 > 200.203.183.32.2067: S 1059652438:1059652438(0) ack 2093248177 win 57344 (DF) 04:01:04.429131 216.136.204.117.80 > 200.203.183.32.1998: S 4153685029:4153685029(0) ack 240094282 win 57344 (DF) 04:01:04.549163 216.136.204.117.80 > 200.203.183.32.2068: S 3136323399:3136323399(0) ack 723495504 win 57344 (DF) 04:01:07.409090 216.136.204.117.80 > 200.203.183.32.1995: S 2379854270:2379854270(0) ack 264430649 win 57344 (DF) 04:01:08.408993 216.136.204.117.80 > 200.203.183.32.1996: S 3804689919:3804689919(0) ack 1522574200 win 57344 (DF) 04:01:09.418980 216.136.204.117.80 > 200.203.183.32.1997: S 3901380776:3901380776(0) ack 442375939 win 57344 (DF) 04:01:10.429020 216.136.204.117.80 > 200.203.183.32.1998: S 4153685029:4153685029(0) ack 240094282 win 57344 (DF) 04:01:19.408629 216.136.204.117.80 > 200.203.183.32.1995: S 2379854270:2379854270(0) ack 264430649 win 57344 (DF) 04:01:20.408544 216.136.204.117.80 > 200.203.183.32.1996: S 3804689919:3804689919(0) ack 1522574200 win 57344 (DF) 04:01:21.418566 216.136.204.117.80 > 200.203.183.32.1997: S 3901380776:3901380776(0) ack 442375939 win 57344 (DF) 04:01:22.428427 216.136.204.117.80 > 200.203.183.32.1998: S 4153685029:4153685029(0) ack 240094282 win 57344 (DF) Some users have complaint about server timeouts since Monday (but I havent experienced the problems they seem to be having). At first I thought it was the switch but I don't see errors from the Linux machine. That happens when pinging (with hping -S -p 80), bsd1:fxp0 -> bsd2 bsd2:fxp0 -> bsd1 bsd1:lo0 -> bsd1:lo0 bsd2:lo0 -> bsd2:lo0 bsd1:fxp0 -> remote bsd2:fxp0 -> remote bsd1:fxp0 -> linux Any help is welcome and sorry if this email doesn't have all the information needed to solve this problem. I'll be happy to provide more details and do more tests if needed. Here is the output from ifconfig fxp0, fxp0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 200.203.183.32 netmask 0xffffffc0 broadcast 200.203.183.63 inet 200.203.183.33 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 200.203.183.33 inet 200.203.183.37 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 200.203.183.37 ether 00:07:e9:ad:2a:ab media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active Someone mentioned cvsup'ing to 4.8-STABLE but I'm afraid of doing so because those two boxes are very critical. -- Giovanni P. Tirloni http://www.tirloni.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 1 05:19:57 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55F6337B404 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 05:19:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fmx4.freemail.hu (fmx4.freemail.hu [195.228.242.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DC55243FDF for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 05:18:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kovacspeter2@freemail.hu) Received: (qmail 70765 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2003 14:18:34 +0200 Received: from fm13.freemail.hu (195.228.242.214) by fmx4.freemail.hu with SMTP; 1 Jun 2003 14:18:34 +0200 Received: (qmail 1279 invoked by uid 3421979); 1 Jun 2003 14:18:33 +0200 Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 14:18:33 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Kov=E1cs_P=E9ter?= To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [81.182.49.190] X-HTTP-User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-2 Subject: X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 12:19:57 -0000 Hello, I have a system running Postfix. I would like to use it with SSL. It works fine, but I have one problem. At /usr/local/lib/sasl2/smtpd.conf there is a line: mech_list: plain login I think this means that when he sends the mail and logs in the login procedure is not secure. How can I make it secure. I tried mech_list: saslauthd login, but it didn't work out. Do you have a guess how can I make the login procedure secure as well? Nowdays I get this error message: postfix/smtpd[31997]: unable to dlopen /usr/local/lib/sasl2/libkerberos4.so: /usr/local/lib/sasl2/libkerberos4.so: Undefined symbol "des_pcbc_encrypt" Why is this? Thanks... From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 1 22:20:16 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4712F37B401 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 22:20:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp1.eunet.yu (smtp1.eunet.yu [194.247.192.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2C7243F75 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 22:20:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kolicz@eunet.yu) Received: (from root@localhost) by smtp1.eunet.yu (8.11.6p2/8.11.6) id h525KDJ04307 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG.KAV; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 07:20:13 +0200 Received: from localhost.localdomain (P-2.104.eunet.yu [213.240.2.104]) by smtp1.eunet.yu (8.11.6p2/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h525KBA31133 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 07:20:12 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Zoran Kolic To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 09:27:26 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <200306010927.26235.kolicz@eunet.yu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by smtp1.eunet.yu id h525KBA31133 Subject: optical mice X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: kolicz@eunet.yu List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 05:20:16 -0000 Dear FreeBSD! Hope that my little problem will not make annoyance to the list. I finaly found out that my old, has to be replaced, mouse Logitech M-S48a OEM had a chinese chip and did not working wheel using freeBSD. I had try changing Xconf, using imwheel... On the internet I found a tip, that this type was not working on this OS. In a store in my neighborhood I could buy M-S48a without "OEM", or more expensive model M-BE58. Some folks use fine optical Logitech mice... Question? I could live without a wheel, I could live without freeBSD, or without computer at all. But, it's a matter of honor to have wheel working in surrounding windows community. Does someone have experience with optical mice? Does it work? Kernel has usb module for mouse, know that. Oh, almost to forget! Release 5_0. Best regards Zoran Kolic kolicz@eunet.yu From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 1 22:37:59 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76A7D37B401 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 22:37:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp-relay.omnis.com (smtp-relay.omnis.com [216.239.128.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A9B943F93 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 22:37:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from softweyr.homeunix.net (66-91-236-204.san.rr.com [66.91.236.204]) by smtp-relay.omnis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6C4F1B4D3; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 22:37:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr To: kolicz@eunet.yu, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 22:37:56 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.2 References: <200306010927.26235.kolicz@eunet.yu> In-Reply-To: <200306010927.26235.kolicz@eunet.yu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200306012237.56666.wes@softweyr.com> Subject: Re: optical mice X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 05:37:59 -0000 On Sunday 01 June 2003 02:27 am, Zoran Kolic wrote: > > Question? I could live without a wheel, > I could live without freeBSD, or without > computer at all. But, it's a matter of honor > to have wheel working in surrounding > windows community. Does someone > have experience with optical mice? Does > it work? Kernel has usb module for mouse, > know that. Oh, almost to forget! Release 5_0. My Logitech "Optical Wheel" mouse, model M-BJ58, works fine with XFree86 4.3.0, and did with 4.2.1 as well. I have also used a Logitech HiRes Optical mouse with FreeBSD and XFree86 4.2.x, but I don't have it handy to report the model number. -- Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket? Wes Peters wes@softweyr.com From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 1 22:46:32 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF01637B401 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 22:46:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ece.cmu.edu (ECE.CMU.EDU [128.2.136.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44CA743F75 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 22:46:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from allbery@ece.cmu.edu) Received: from rushlight (allbery@allbery.dsl.telerama.com [205.201.8.182]) (authenticated) by ece.cmu.edu (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id h525kQ318012; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 01:46:26 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brandon S. Allbery " KF8NH To: Wes Peters In-Reply-To: <200306012237.56666.wes@softweyr.com> References: <200306010927.26235.kolicz@eunet.yu> <200306012237.56666.wes@softweyr.com> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1054532785.2397.2.camel@rushlight.kf8nh.apk.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.4 Date: 02 Jun 2003 01:46:25 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: optical mice X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 05:46:33 -0000 On Mon, 2003-06-02 at 01:37, Wes Peters wrote: > > Question? I could live without a wheel, > > I could live without freeBSD, or without > > computer at all. But, it's a matter of honor > > to have wheel working in surrounding > > windows community. Does someone > > have experience with optical mice? Does > > it work? Kernel has usb module for mouse, > > know that. Oh, almost to forget! Release 5_0. > > My Logitech "Optical Wheel" mouse, model M-BJ58, works fine with XFree86 > 4.3.0, and did with 4.2.1 as well. I have also used a Logitech HiRes > Optical mouse with FreeBSD and XFree86 4.2.x, but I don't have it handy > to report the model number. I have an IBM optical wheel mouse and a Logitech optical trackball with scrollwheel, both USB, working fine with various 4-STABLE releases. I would expect them to work with 5.0-RELEASE and -CURRENT as well, although I don't have a -CURRENT machine to test with at the moment. -- brandon s allbery [openafs/solaris/japh/freebsd] allbery@kf8nh.apk.net system administrator [linux/heimdal/too many hats] allbery@ece.cmu.edu electrical and computer engineering KF8NH carnegie mellon university [better check the oblivious first -ke6sls] From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 1 22:47:57 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14DD437B401 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 22:47:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xyzzy.wireless.snsonline.net (dhcp.looksmart.com.au [210.9.52.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C49843F3F for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 22:47:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msergeant@snsonline.net) Received: from xyzzy.wireless.snsonline.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h525lnfj095778; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 15:47:49 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from msergeant@snsonline.net) Received: (from sarge@localhost)h525llIu095777; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 15:47:47 +1000 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: xyzzy.wireless.snsonline.net: sarge set sender to msergeant@snsonline.net using -f From: Mark Sergeant To: kolicz@eunet.yu In-Reply-To: <200306010927.26235.kolicz@eunet.yu> References: <200306010927.26235.kolicz@eunet.yu> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: SNSOnline Technical Services Message-Id: <1054532866.853.26.camel@xyzzy.wireless.snsonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.4 Date: 02 Jun 2003 15:47:47 +1000 cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: optical mice X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 05:47:57 -0000 Have you tried ... Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" Option "Emulate3Buttons" Option "SendCoreEvents" EndSection in your XF86Config ? Cheers, Mark On Sun, 2003-06-01 at 19:27, Zoran Kolic wrote: > Dear FreeBSD! > Hope that my little problem will > not make annoyance to the list. > > I finaly found out that my old, has > to be replaced, mouse Logitech > M-S48a OEM had a chinese chip > and did not working wheel using > freeBSD. I had try changing Xconf, > using imwheel... On the internet > I found a tip, that this type was not > working on this OS. > > In a store in my neighborhood I > could buy M-S48a without "OEM", > or more expensive model M-BE58. > Some folks use fine optical Logitech > mice... > > Question? I could live without a wheel, > I could live without freeBSD, or without > computer at all. But, it's a matter of honor > to have wheel working in surrounding > windows community. Does someone > have experience with optical mice? Does > it work? Kernel has usb module for mouse, > know that. Oh, almost to forget! Release 5_0. > > Best regards > > Zoran Kolic > kolicz@eunet.yu > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Mark Sergeant SNSOnline Technical Services From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 1 22:52:48 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8535637B404 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 22:52:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from noir.propagation.net (noir.propagation.net [63.249.159.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7966E43F85 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 22:52:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nickh@supportteam.net) Received: from dotnet (c66.169.110.87.ts46v-03.otn-a1.ftwrth.tx.charter.com [66.169.110.87]) by noir.propagation.net (8.9.3p2/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA13734; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 00:52:20 -0500 Message-ID: <000d01c328cb$2748a410$0402a8c0@dotnet> From: "Nick H." To: "Mark Sergeant" , References: <200306010927.26235.kolicz@eunet.yu> <1054532866.853.26.camel@xyzzy.wireless.snsonline.net> Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 00:52:24 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.3663.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3663.0 cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: optical mice X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 05:52:48 -0000 If you're wanting to use the scroll mouse (I could be wrong in my reading of the topic so far... but I think that's what he wants) then you must have: Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" I have a Logitech MX700, and a few M$ mice (gimmie a break please, they were $3/ea. =P) and they all work fine on both my 4.8 boxes as well as my 5.0-CURRENT boxes. Regards, Nick H. 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Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to the official business of my firm shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Sergeant" To: Cc: Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 12:47 AM Subject: Re: optical mice : Have you tried ... : : Section "InputDevice" : Identifier "Mouse0" : Driver "mouse" : Option "Protocol" "auto" : Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" : Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" : Option "Emulate3Buttons" : Option "SendCoreEvents" : EndSection : : in your XF86Config ? : : Cheers, : : Mark : : On Sun, 2003-06-01 at 19:27, Zoran Kolic wrote: : > Dear FreeBSD! : > Hope that my little problem will : > not make annoyance to the list. : > : > I finaly found out that my old, has : > to be replaced, mouse Logitech : > M-S48a OEM had a chinese chip : > and did not working wheel using : > freeBSD. I had try changing Xconf, : > using imwheel... On the internet : > I found a tip, that this type was not : > working on this OS. : > : > In a store in my neighborhood I : > could buy M-S48a without "OEM", : > or more expensive model M-BE58. : > Some folks use fine optical Logitech : > mice... : > : > Question? I could live without a wheel, : > I could live without freeBSD, or without : > computer at all. But, it's a matter of honor : > to have wheel working in surrounding : > windows community. Does someone : > have experience with optical mice? Does : > it work? Kernel has usb module for mouse, : > know that. Oh, almost to forget! Release 5_0. : > : > Best regards : > : > Zoran Kolic : > kolicz@eunet.yu : > : > : > _______________________________________________ : > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list : > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable : > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" : -- : Mark Sergeant : SNSOnline Technical Services : _______________________________________________ : freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list : http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable : To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 1 23:07:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A92937B401 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 23:07:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns1.itga.com.au (ns1.itga.com.au [202.53.40.214]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7703643F93 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 23:07:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by ns1.itga.com.au (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h52670m2093159 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 16:07:00 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA18727; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 16:07:00 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <200306020607.QAA18727@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.4 05/15/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 From: Gregory Bond To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 16:07:00 +1000 Sender: gnb@itga.com.au Subject: hints on KVM switches w/ X X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 06:07:04 -0000 Has anyone got hints on using KVM switches with XFree86? I'm using a wheel mouse and moused, but something gets out of whack when I switch away then back to X. Next time I touch the mouse, all sorts of weird things happen for a fraction of a second, then the mouse starts working OK. This is annoying and dangerous because it often winds up pasting random stuff into xterms..... Are there any hints for making this less of a problem? From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 1 23:13:35 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C6E337B401 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 23:13:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.rotfl.com.au (eth1779.sa.adsl.internode.on.net [150.101.235.242]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C4EA43F85 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 23:13:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from philk@rotfl.com.au) In-Reply-To: <200306020607.QAA18727@lightning.itga.com.au> To: Gregory Bond Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 15:43:32 +0930 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL98b (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: <20030602061333.06551257@mail.rotfl.com.au> From: philk@rotfl.com.au (Phil Kernick) cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hints on KVM switches w/ X X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 06:13:35 -0000 > Has anyone got hints on using KVM switches with XFree86? I've found that I need to do this: device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12 flags 0x0100 Note the flags. Without it, my mouse gets very out of sync with a KVM switch. Phil. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 00:15:12 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E47737B401 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 00:15:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from franky.speednet.com.au (franky.speednet.com.au [203.57.65.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4BC443F93 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 00:15:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andyf@speednet.com.au) Received: from hewey.af.speednet.com.au (hewey.af.speednet.com.au [203.38.96.242])h527F4xe078190 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 17:15:04 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from andyf@speednet.com.au) Received: from hewey.af.speednet.com.au (hewey.af.speednet.com.au [172.22.2.17])h527F2UN063130 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 17:15:03 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from andyf@speednet.com.au) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 17:15:02 +1000 (EST) From: Andy Farkas X-X-Sender: andyf@hewey.af.speednet.com.au To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20030602061333.06551257@mail.rotfl.com.au> Message-ID: <20030602170126.C63025-100000@hewey.af.speednet.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: more mouse madness X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 07:15:12 -0000 I'm trying to figure out why my usb mouse won't work. This is what happens when i enable debug mode for moused to see whats happening: Script started on Mon Jun 2 16:33:28 2003 hunter# moused -df -p /dev/ums0 moused: proto params: f8 80 00 00 8 00 ff moused: port: /dev/ums0 interface: usb type: sysmouse model: generic moused: received char 0x83 moused: received char 0x1e moused: received char 0x11 moused: received char 0x1f moused: received char 0x12 moused: received char 0x0 moused: received char 0x0 moused: received char 0x7f moused: assembled full packet (len 8) 83,1e,11,1f,12,0,0,7f moused: tv: 1054535623 900676 moused: : 1054535624 257152 moused: flags:80000001 buttons:00000001 obuttons:00000000 moused: activity : buttons 0x00000001 dx 61 dy -35 dz 0 [10 second pause] moused: mstate[0]->count:1 moused: button 1 count 1 moused: received char 0x83 moused: received char 0x11 moused: received char 0x8 moused: received char 0x11 moused: received char 0x8 moused: received char 0x0 moused: received char 0x0 moused: received char 0x7f moused: assembled full packet (len 8) 83,11,8,11,8,0,0,7f moused: tv: 1054535637 517247 moused: flags:80000000 buttons:00000001 obuttons:00000001 moused: activity : buttons 0x00000001 dx 34 dy -16 dz 0 [2 minute pause] ^C hunter# exit Script done on Mon Jun 2 16:35:39 2003 In other words, nothing happens :( I was watching systat -v in another window and interrupts were being generated on uhci0. Here are relevent parts of dmesg: FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE #1: Sat Apr 5 19:49:58 EST 2003 ... CPU: Intel Celeron (664.51-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x686 Stepping = 6 Features=0x383f9ff real memory = 335282176 (327424K bytes) avail memory = 322170880 (314620K bytes) ... uhci0: port 0xef40-0xef5f irq 11 at device 31.2 on pci0 uhci0: LegSup = 0x00002f00 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ums0: Microsoft Microsoft Wireless Intellimouse Explorer\M-. 1.0A, rev 1.10/0.0d, addr 2, iclass 3/1 ums0: 5 buttons and Z dir. pci0: (vendor=0x8086, dev=0x2443) at 31.3 irq 10 uhci1: port 0xef80-0xef9f irq 9 at device 31.4 on pci0 uhci1: LegSup = 0x00002f00 usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ... This is a genuine Intel D815EEA motherboard. I can provide full dmesg if needed. Anyone have a clue as to where to start looking for problems? -- :{ andyf@speednet.com.au Andy Farkas System Administrator Speednet Communications http://www.speednet.com.au/ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 01:07:34 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA1CE37B401; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 01:07:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from plewe.is.tsukuba.ac.jp (plewe.is.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.81.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D9BF43F93; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 01:07:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from till@plewe.is.tsukuba.ac.jp) Received: from plewe.is.tsukuba.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h5287lte031223; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 17:07:47 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from till@plewe.is.tsukuba.ac.jp) Received: (from till@localhost) by plewe.is.tsukuba.ac.jp (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h5287ltq031222; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 17:07:47 +0900 (JST) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 17:07:47 +0900 From: Till Plewe To: stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030602080747.GA79912@plewe.is.tsukuba.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i-ja.1 cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: curses header conflict (wchar_t,wint_t) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: till@score.is.tsukuba.ac.jp List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 08:07:35 -0000 When trying to install python2.3 on either stable or current the python curses module doesn't build. I get the following compiler complaints: STABLE (line numbers in brackets are from CURRENT) /usr/include/ncurses.h:236(289): conflicting types for `wchar_t' /usr/include/stdlib.h:58(57): previous declaration of `wchar_t' /usr/include/ncurses.h:239(292): conflicting types for `wint_t' /usr/include/wchar.h:89(96): previous declaration of `wint_t' Can somebody tell me the story of _WCHAR_T and _BSD_WCHAR_T, or tell me where I can find some hints? I found several long threads on seemingly related problems but haven't been enlightened yet. (One drastic fix is to remove the relevant lines from ncurses.h while building python.) - Till From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 02:51:21 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 999CB37B404 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 02:51:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gulliver.summitoh.net (cable-29-84.sssnet.com [24.140.29.84]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5437C43F85 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 02:51:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rwstable@gulliver.summitoh.net) Received: (qmail 45559 invoked from network); 2 Jun 2003 09:51:16 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO gulliver.summitoh.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Jun 2003 09:51:16 -0000 Received: from 172.16.36.72 (SquirrelMail authenticated user rwstable@gulliver.summitoh.net) by ghostwind with HTTP; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 05:51:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <2160.172.16.36.72.1054547476.squirrel@ghostwind> Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 05:51:16 -0400 (EDT) From: To: In-Reply-To: <200306020607.QAA18727@lightning.itga.com.au> References: <200306020607.QAA18727@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: hints on KVM switches w/ X X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 09:51:22 -0000 I have run this sort of setup for quite some time, and that is very common. The easiest way to get control over your mouse again is to drop to the command line (pseudo-term) by pressing "ctrl-atl-f2" or whatever pty you didn't start X from, then when you get to the login, hit "alt-f7", and you'll be returned to your X session, this time the mouse will resync and you'll be able to use it. Just my own personal experience. Ryan > Has anyone got hints on using KVM switches with XFree86? I'm using a > wheel mouse and moused, but something gets out of whack when I switch > away then back to X. Next time I touch the mouse, all sorts of weird > things happen for a fraction of a second, then the mouse starts working > OK. This is annoying and dangerous because it often winds up pasting > random stuff into xterms..... > > Are there any hints for making this less of a problem? From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 02:55:39 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B91E037B401 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 02:55:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from moya.lambermont.dyndns.org (e165253.upc-e.chello.nl [213.93.165.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D153643F75 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 02:55:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hans@lambermont.dyndns.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by moya.lambermont.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2181C3659E; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 11:55:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: by moya.lambermont.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id BDC4736401; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 11:55:31 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 11:55:31 +0200 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030602095531.GA86154@moya.lambermont.dyndns.org> References: <200306010927.26235.kolicz@eunet.yu> <1054532866.853.26.camel@xyzzy.wireless.snsonline.net> <000d01c328cb$2748a410$0402a8c0@dotnet> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000d01c328cb$2748a410$0402a8c0@dotnet> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i From: hans@lambermont.dyndns.org (Hans Lambermont) X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 Subject: Re: optical mice X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 09:55:40 -0000 Nick H. wrote: > Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" I use moused instead (M-BD58) so I have both scrollwheel support in X11 and a mouse in text-mode (I start without X11). in /etc/rc.conf : moused_enable="YES" and in /etc/X11/XF86Config : Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" Option "Buttons" "5" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "yes" EndSection Hans -- http://lambermont.webhop.org/ () ascii ribbon campaign - against HTML mail, /\ vCards and proprietary formats From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 03:18:42 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D158E37B401 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 03:18:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgate.packet.org.uk (public2-with1-3-cust50.bagu.broadband.ntl.com [80.5.52.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B38743F85 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 03:18:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fbsd-x@packet.org.uk) Received: from xaphod by mailgate.packet.org.uk with local (Exim 4.20) id 19MmOi-0000wQ-Py; Mon, 02 Jun 2003 10:18:36 +0000 Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 11:18:36 +0100 From: Peter McGarvey To: Hans Lambermont Message-ID: <20030602101836.GA3396@packet.org.uk> References: <200306010927.26235.kolicz@eunet.yu> <1054532866.853.26.camel@xyzzy.wireless.snsonline.net> <000d01c328cb$2748a410$0402a8c0@dotnet> <20030602095531.GA86154@moya.lambermont.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030602095531.GA86154@moya.lambermont.dyndns.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [stable] Re: optical mice X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 10:18:43 -0000 * Hans Lambermont [2003-06-02 10:57:46 BST]: > Nick H. wrote: > > > Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" > > I use moused instead (M-BD58) so I have both scrollwheel support in X11 > and a mouse in text-mode (I start without X11). > > in /etc/rc.conf : > > moused_enable="YES" I've got exactly the same mouse. As it's USB it "just works" without any need to put anything in rc.conf. However, there has been the odd occasion when I've rebooted and the mouse has not been seen. A quick unplug-plug always fixes. > > and in /etc/X11/XF86Config : > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Mouse0" > Driver "mouse" > Option "Protocol" "auto" > Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" > Option "Buttons" "5" > Option "Emulate3Buttons" "yes" > EndSection My XF86Config doesn't have the line: Option "Emulate3Buttons" "yes" but does have the line Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" -- TTFN, FNORD Peter McGarvey Freelance FreeBSD Hacker (will work for bandwidth) From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 06:40:02 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0511037B401 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 06:40:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fmx3.freemail.hu (fmx3.freemail.hu [195.228.242.223]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8C65343F75 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 06:40:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kovacspeter2@freemail.hu) Received: (qmail 74270 invoked from network); 2 Jun 2003 15:34:41 +0200 Received: from fm3.freemail.hu (195.228.242.203) by fmx3.freemail.hu with SMTP; 2 Jun 2003 15:34:26 +0200 Received: (qmail 18749 invoked by uid 3421979); 2 Jun 2003 15:27:46 +0200 Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 15:27:44 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Kov=E1cs_P=E9ter?= To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [81.182.49.19] X-HTTP-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-2 Subject: postfix X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 13:40:02 -0000 Hello, I have a system running Postfix. I would like to use it with SSL. It works fine, but I have one problem. At /usr/local/lib/sasl2/smtpd.conf there is a line: mech_list: plain login I think this means that when he sends the mail and logs in the login procedure is not secure. How can I make it secure. I tried mech_list: saslauthd login, but it didn't work out. Do you have a guess how can I make the login procedure secure as well? Nowdays I get this error message: postfix/smtpd[31997]: unable to dlopen /usr/local/lib/sasl2/libkerberos4.so: /usr/local/lib/sasl2/libkerberos4.so: Undefined symbol "des_pcbc_encrypt" Why is this? Thanks... From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 08:55:54 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52C9A37B401 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 08:55:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from krusty.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de (mail.dt.E-Technik.Uni-Dortmund.DE [129.217.163.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7782943FA3 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 08:55:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ma@dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de) Received: from m2a2.dyndns.org (krusty.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.163.1])A5C10A381D for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 17:55:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: by merlin.emma.line.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id C92C08B269; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 17:55:49 +0200 (CEST) To: =?iso-8859-15?q?Kov=E1cs_P=E9ter?= In-Reply-To: 15:27:44 +0200 (CEST)") References: From: Matthias Andree Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 17:55:48 +0200 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: postfix X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 15:55:54 -0000 Kov=E1cs P=E9ter writes: > I have a system running Postfix. > I would like to use it with SSL. It works fine, but I have one > problem. This question is better asked on the postfix-users mailing list. Check http://www.postfix.org/ for directions (AND READ THEM CAREFULLY!) --=20 Matthias Andree From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 09:52:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6810D37B401 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 09:52:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lakemtao04.cox.net (lakemtao04.cox.net [68.1.17.241]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7518D43FB1 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 09:52:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tpc@tomfoo.com) Received: from tomfoo.com ([68.110.226.251]) by lakemtao04.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.05 201-253-122-122-105-20011231) with ESMTP id <20030602165207.QSDX13930.lakemtao04.cox.net@tomfoo.com>; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 12:52:07 -0400 Message-ID: <3EDB80B5.9040300@tomfoo.com> Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 12:52:05 -0400 From: Tom Convery User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030424 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gregory Bond , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <200306020607.QAA18727@lightning.itga.com.au> In-Reply-To: <200306020607.QAA18727@lightning.itga.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: hints on KVM switches w/ X X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 16:52:08 -0000 Gregory Bond wrote: > Has anyone got hints on using KVM switches with XFree86? I'm using a > wheel mouse and moused, but something gets out of whack when I > switch away then back to X. What make/model of KVM and mouse are you using? I've had this happen to me when the KVM doesn't _really_ support the mouse I'm using, e.g. using an IntelliMouse Explorer with any Belkin KVM I've ever tried. > Next time I touch the mouse, all sorts of weird things happen for a > fraction of a second, then the mouse starts working OK. This happens when the psm driver gets out of sync with the mouse. The driver realizes this is happening and corrects itself, but not until it gets enough garbage (which makes the mouse cursor bounce and click all over the place) to realize it's out of sync. :-\ If the earlier-posted hint about disabling psm sync checking (with "flags 0x0100") doesn't help, replacing your KVM may be the answer. :-( -tpc From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 10:24:19 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FAC737B401 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 10:24:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wolfram.com (wri-dns0.wolfram.com [140.177.205.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6222143F3F for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 10:24:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hemi@just.puresimplicity.net) Received: from just.puresimplicity.net ([140.177.207.10]) by wolfram.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h52HOHr10426 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 12:24:17 -0500 Received: (from hemi@localhost) by just.puresimplicity.net (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h52HOGd7020295 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 12:24:16 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from hemi) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 12:24:16 -0500 From: Josh Tolbert To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030602172416.GA20191@just.puresimplicity.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Subject: Re: hints on KVM switches w/ X X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 17:24:19 -0000 On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 12:52:05PM -0400, Tom Convery wrote: > Gregory Bond wrote: > >Has anyone got hints on using KVM switches with XFree86? I'm using a > > wheel mouse and moused, but something gets out of whack when I > >switch away then back to X. > > What make/model of KVM and mouse are you using? I've had this happen to > me when the KVM doesn't _really_ support the mouse I'm using, e.g. using > an IntelliMouse Explorer with any Belkin KVM I've ever tried. > > >Next time I touch the mouse, all sorts of weird things happen for a > >fraction of a second, then the mouse starts working OK. > > This happens when the psm driver gets out of sync with the mouse. The > driver realizes this is happening and corrects itself, but not until it > gets enough garbage (which makes the mouse cursor bounce and click all > over the place) to realize it's out of sync. :-\ > > If the earlier-posted hint about disabling psm sync checking (with > "flags 0x0100") doesn't help, replacing your KVM may be the answer. :-( > > -tpc You can also try "flags 0x200" to correct this problem. However, one of the side effects of 0x200 is it disables most "special" functions of the mouse (fourth and fifth buttons, wheels, etc.) It forces "true PS/2" compatibility mode. I have to use flags 0x200 to make my IOGear MiniView SE four-port KVM switch play nice with my FreeBSD machines because 0x100 didn't do the job. Thanks, Josh From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 11:57:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92A4C37B404 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 11:57:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ztxmail04.ztx.compaq.com (ztxmail04.ztx.compaq.com [161.114.1.208]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B56CF43FAF for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 11:57:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim.feldman@hp.com) Received: from cceexg12.americas.cpqcorp.net (cceexg12.americas.cpqcorp.net [16.110.250.124]) by ztxmail04.ztx.compaq.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E1BBABDF for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 13:57:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from cxoexc12.americas.cpqcorp.net ([16.112.144.135]) by cceexg12.americas.cpqcorp.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6673); Mon, 2 Jun 2003 13:57:00 -0500 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6375.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 12:57:00 -0600 Message-ID: <5A7E15ABD212F547B1401F6712FF812002A9DAF4@cxoexc12.americas.cpqcorp.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: hints on KVM switches w/ X Thread-Index: AcMpJ20mXXaUVbzrRvuBAKFgnpREXwADcyHw From: "Feldman, Jim" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jun 2003 18:57:00.0991 (UTC) FILETIME=[BFD65CF0:01C32938] Subject: RE: hints on KVM switches w/ X X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 18:57:03 -0000 I have noticed that if I start the system boot, and then switch away, = both moused and X lose my mouse when I come back later. If I wait for = the boot to complete, no problem and I can pop back and forth. = Otherwise I've been pretty happy with the 4 port Trendware cheapie kvm. = Took generic 4.8 install with kde. MoBo is an older FIC for the K6-III. = Mouse is logitech trackball w/2 buttons. =20 It looks like the trendware, zonet, phoebe, and who knows how many = others are rebadged or slightly different packages of the same board. jim -----Original Message----- From: Tom Convery [mailto:tpc@tomfoo.com] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 10:52 AM To: Gregory Bond; freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hints on KVM switches w/ X Gregory Bond wrote: > Has anyone got hints on using KVM switches with XFree86? I'm using a > wheel mouse and moused, but something gets out of whack when I > switch away then back to X. What make/model of KVM and mouse are you using? I've had this happen to me when the KVM doesn't _really_ support the mouse I'm using, e.g. using an IntelliMouse Explorer with any Belkin KVM I've ever tried. > Next time I touch the mouse, all sorts of weird things happen for a=20 > fraction of a second, then the mouse starts working OK. This happens when the psm driver gets out of sync with the mouse. The=20 driver realizes this is happening and corrects itself, but not until it=20 gets enough garbage (which makes the mouse cursor bounce and click all=20 over the place) to realize it's out of sync. :-\ If the earlier-posted hint about disabling psm sync checking (with=20 "flags 0x0100") doesn't help, replacing your KVM may be the answer. :-( -tpc _______________________________________________ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 12:22:27 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1D2B37B401 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 12:22:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from krusty.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de (krusty.dt.E-Technik.Uni-Dortmund.DE [129.217.163.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B64B43F75 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 12:22:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ma@dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de) Received: from m2a2.dyndns.org (krusty.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.163.1])3061FA381D for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 21:22:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: by merlin.emma.line.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id 205368B4B0; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 21:22:21 +0200 (CEST) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Matthias Andree Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 21:22:21 +0200 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: "disable ata" in kernel configuration not working? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 19:22:27 -0000 Hi, I have an up-to-date FreeBSD 4-STABLE system with onboard ATA controller (VIA 82C586-mumble) but no ATA/ATAPI devices (SCSI only). I tried putting disable ata disable ata0 disable ata1 quit into /boot/kernel.conf to skip probing these devices (it hangs until timeout), but to no avail, the kernel still sees ata0 and ata1 and probes for drives (which takes several dozen seconds). I see at boot-up that these disable instructions are executed (the corresponding loader.conf flag is set). I also tried disabling atapci0 which is what I see, but that one is rejected with something like "no such device". Is this a known issue or should I file a PR? TIA, -- Matthias Andree From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 12:55:22 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBE0137B401 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 12:55:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from server1.blades-tech.com (server0.expresshosting.net [216.40.247.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CC9F143FB1 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 12:55:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bigtruck@ownij.com) Received: (qmail 2729 invoked by uid 2526); 2 Jun 2003 19:55:21 -0000 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, UNEXPECTED_DATA_AFTER_ADDRESS@.SYNTAX-ERROR Message-ID: <1054583721.3edbaba959c81@webmail.ownij.com> Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 14:55:21 -0500 (CDT) From: bigtruck@ownij.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.7 X-Originating-IP: 64.30.212.76 Subject: 4.8-Stable DummyNet X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 19:55:23 -0000 Hi. We just opened a gaming center and have chosen to run a FreeBsd box for our firewall. IPFW is configured at it's very basic running natd through rl0 and allowing any to any connections from the lan to the outer world. Natd controls access to the lan. We have a 6.0 mb/s ADSL net connection for all the gaming clients to use, however if a gamer starts downloading a file, that file takes precendence and causes everyone's pings 'in-game' to sky rocket to unplayable levels. I have done some reading on DummyNet which is attached at the hip with IPFW, however I have been unsuccessful in getting it to work properly. I have done some research and found this site: http://info.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ip_dummynet/ After reading I became more confused than before. Should I share the link as a whole to all 64 client machines OR should I set a fixed BW for all client machines. Are there other websites out there that can help with this? Also if and when I do find a working pipe/queue config do I put it before the natd via rl0 command or after? Thanks. Mike Purcell Aka BigTrucK Ownij Digital Entertainment Betta Axe Somebody! www.ownij.com From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 13:00:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3952837B401 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 13:00:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx2.biglist.com (westside.urbanblight.com [216.223.208.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1CD6343F3F for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 13:00:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from omar@mx2.biglist.com) Received: (qmail 84978 invoked by uid 601); 2 Jun 2003 20:00:12 -0000 Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 16:00:12 -0400 From: Omar To: Gregory Bond Message-ID: <20030602160012.A67503@westside.urbanblight.com> References: <200306020607.QAA18727@lightning.itga.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200306020607.QAA18727@lightning.itga.com.au>; from gnb@itga.com.au on Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 04:07:00PM +1000 cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hints on KVM switches w/ X X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 20:00:14 -0000 Similar issue here, only I'd lose the mouse on all boxes connected to the Belkin KVM. I could recover the mouse on FreeBSD by running moused and using /dev/sysmouse, then restarting moused when there was a problem, but the Windows 2000 box required a reboot (as far as I could tell, but I'm no NT admin). Ultimately, I attached the mouse back to the serial port and don't have the flakey behavior on FreeBSD. When switching to the W2K box, I frequently have to do sequential ritual left-button, center-button clicks to get things working again (cf, above NT admin comment :-) . Omar On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 04:07:00PM +1000, Gregory Bond wrote: > Has anyone got hints on using KVM switches with XFree86? I'm using a wheel > mouse and moused, but something gets out of whack when I switch away then back > to X. Next time I touch the mouse, all sorts of weird things happen for a > fraction of a second, then the mouse starts working OK. This is annoying and > dangerous because it often winds up pasting random stuff into xterms..... > > Are there any hints for making this less of a problem? From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 13:13:33 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE7B937B401 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 13:13:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web14106.mail.yahoo.com (web14106.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.136]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C3CB643F93 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 13:13:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cguttesen@yahoo.dk) Message-ID: <20030602201332.89737.qmail@web14106.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [193.217.197.213] by web14106.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 02 Jun 2003 22:13:32 CEST Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 22:13:32 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Claus=20Guttesen?= To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1054583721.3edbaba959c81@webmail.ownij.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: 4.8-Stable DummyNet X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 20:13:34 -0000 Hi. > We have a 6.0 mb/s ADSL net connection for all the > gaming clients to use, > however if a gamer starts downloading a file, that > file takes precendence and > causes everyone's pings 'in-game' to sky rocket to > unplayable levels. I have the following in my /etc/rc.firewall: # do some traffic-shaping, configure a pipe ${fwcmd} pipe 10 config bw 1280Kbit/s ${fwcmd} pipe 20 config bw 1280Kbit/s # create some queues with various weight ${fwcmd} queue 11 config pipe 10 weight 50 ${fwcmd} queue 12 config pipe 10 weight 25 ${fwcmd} queue 13 config pipe 10 weight 5 ${fwcmd} queue 21 config pipe 20 weight 50 ${fwcmd} queue 22 config pipe 20 weight 25 ${fwcmd} queue 23 config pipe 20 weight 5 # create some rules that will be applied to the queues # inside-interface ${fwcmd} add 340 queue 11 tcp from ${inet}:${imask} to any dst-port http in recv ${iif} ${fwcmd} add 340 queue 11 tcp from ${inet}:${imask} to any dst-port ssh in recv ${iif} ${fwcmd} add 340 queue 11 udp from ${inet}:${imask} to any dst-port 53 in recv ${iif} ${fwcmd} add 340 queue 12 tcp from ${inet}:${imask} to any dst-port smtp in recv ${iif} ${fwcmd} add 340 queue 12 tcp from ${inet}:${imask} to any dst-port pop3 in recv ${iif} ${fwcmd} add 340 queue 13 ip from ${inet}:${imask} to any in recv ${iif} # outside-interface ${fwcmd} add 350 queue 21 tcp from any to ${inet}:${imask} src-port http in recv ${oif} ${fwcmd} add 350 queue 21 tcp from any to ${inet}:${imask} src-port ssh in recv ${oif} ${fwcmd} add 350 queue 21 udp from any to ${inet}:${imask} src-port 53 in recv ${oif} ${fwcmd} add 350 queue 22 tcp from any to ${inet}:${imask} src-port smtp in recv ${oif} ${fwcmd} add 350 queue 22 tcp from any to ${inet}:${imask} src-port pop3 in recv ${oif} ${fwcmd} add 350 queue 23 ip from any to ${inet}:${imask} in recv ${oif} ;; This creates some queues with a certain bandwitdh and weight, apply some protocols to the various queues. You may use this as a staring-point. I'm using this on FreeBSD 4.8 stable and compiled IPFW2-support into the kernel. Requires a change to /etc/make.conf and kernel. Regards Claus Yahoo! Mail (http://dk.mail.yahoo.com) - Gratis: 6 MB lagerplads, spamfilter og virusscan From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 13:16:29 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E24B737B401 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 13:16:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.speedroad.net (trance.speedroad.net [195.139.232.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1257F43F3F for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 13:16:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from arnvid@karstad.org) Received: (qmail 2829 invoked by uid 89); 2 Jun 2003 20:14:56 -0000 Received: from freelight.isd.no (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (arnvid@195.139.232.120) by mail.speedroad.net with SMTP; 2 Jun 2003 20:14:56 -0000 Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 22:16:09 +0200 From: Arnvid Karstad To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Organization: Int Message-Id: <20030602221342.D1B0.ARNVID@karstad.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.05.06 Subject: IBM ServeRaid - ips driver? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 20:16:30 -0000 Hiya all, Just saw that the 5.1 RC/Beta had finally support ips/serveraid controllers. (Even tho 4Lx and 5i seem to have LSI chipsets contra the older ones).... But when trying to boot the 5.1RC1 mini iso it failes to detect my keyboard... The server is an IBM xSeries 335 1 u server with and onboard LSI (mpt0) kontroller for the boot disks and an 4Lx used for EXP300 external storage. Anyone tried a similar scenario or hw configuartion with luck? Mvh/Best regards, Arnvid L. Karstad From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 13:40:43 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44CB537B401 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 13:40:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sergievsky.cpmc.columbia.edu (sergievsky.cpmc.columbia.edu [156.145.114.95]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ACBD43FA3 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 13:40:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gary@sergievsky.cpmc.columbia.edu) Received: from [156.145.114.51] (HELO sergievsky.cpmc.columbia.edu) by sergievsky.cpmc.columbia.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.5) with ESMTP-TLS id 2244544 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 02 Jun 2003 16:30:15 -0400 Message-ID: <3EDBB4CA.4010804@sergievsky.cpmc.columbia.edu> Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 16:34:18 -0400 From: Gary User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030312 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <200306020607.QAA18727@lightning.itga.com.au> <20030602160012.A67503@westside.urbanblight.com> In-Reply-To: <20030602160012.A67503@westside.urbanblight.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: hints on KVM switches w/ X X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 20:40:43 -0000 Omar wrote: > Similar issue here, only I'd lose the mouse on all boxes connected to > the Belkin KVM. I could recover the mouse on FreeBSD by running > I've had similar problems with the Belkin KVMs. Changed to Avocent SwitchView and haven't had the problem since. Not sure what they do different. Maybe sometime if I have the time I'll look into it. Gary From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 13:50:27 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D601837B43E for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 13:50:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dn.farlep.net (ns.dn.farlep.net [213.130.10.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACB7A43FAF for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 13:50:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from admin@dru.dn.ua) Received: from dru.dn.ua (dru.dn.ua [195.5.21.149] (may be forged)) h52Knsje053684 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 23:49:55 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from admin@localhost) by dru.dn.ua (8.12.9/8.12.9) id h52KnOPn003496; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 23:49:24 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from admin) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 23:49:24 +0300 From: "Vladislav V. Zhuk" To: Matthias Andree Message-ID: <20030602204924.GA2697@dru.dn.ua> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "disable ata" in kernel configuration not working? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 20:50:27 -0000 On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 09:22:21PM +0200, Matthias Andree wrote: > I have an up-to-date FreeBSD 4-STABLE system with onboard ATA controller > (VIA 82C586-mumble) but no ATA/ATAPI devices (SCSI only). > > I tried putting > > disable ata > disable ata0 > disable ata1 > quit > > into /boot/kernel.conf to skip probing these devices (it hangs until > timeout), but to no avail, the kernel still sees ata0 and ata1 and > probes for drives (which takes several dozen seconds). > > I see at boot-up that these disable instructions are executed (the > corresponding loader.conf flag is set). > > I also tried disabling atapci0 which is what I see, but that one is > rejected with something like "no such device". > > Is this a known issue or should I file a PR? It's one of well known demonstration of bugs new ATA driver. This BUG is very strong and don't resolve in kernel.conf. I wrote about this 3 times, but Soren Schmidt is very busy for resolving this problem more than 1 year or don't read stable@ and e-mail. -- Vladislav V. Zhuk (06267)3-60-03 admin@dru.dn.ua 2:465/197@FidoNet.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 14:08:37 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFC6D37B401 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 14:08:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [216.240.41.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20F2043F3F for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 14:08:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by apollo.backplane.com (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h52L8aVI002179; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 14:08:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.12.9/8.12.6/Submit) id h52L8a21002178; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 14:08:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 14:08:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <200306022108.h52L8a21002178@apollo.backplane.com> To: bigtruck@ownij.com References: <1054583721.3edbaba959c81@webmail.ownij.com> cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.8-Stable DummyNet X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 21:08:38 -0000 Hmm. I think the easiest thing to do is to control the bandwidth on the LAN side of natd rather then on the ADSL side. If the PCs do not advertise huge TCP windows limiting the bandwidth on the LAN side should be sufficient to prevent continuous saturation of your uplink. There are two ways to do this: Dynamic queues associated with a single pipe, or dynamic pipes. If you use dynamic queues associated with a single pipe IPFW can share the bandwidth and any given client can use the full available bandwidth if nobody else is. However, this may not turn out as you expect because disparate protocols are competing for the bandwidth... UDP for in-game play and bulk TCP for downloads, and the people playing in games may still see glitches. Setting the pipe to slightly less then the ADSL line's actual bandwidth might solve the glitches, though. If you use dynamic pipes you can hard limit the maximum bandwidth that any single client is allowed to use. For example, if your ADSL is 6 MBits you could limit the per-client bandwidth to 1 MBit. Even though 6 or more clients downloading at once could saturate the pipe, this solution is likely to result in fewer glitches then the queue mechanism. Ultimately the queue mechanism is likely going to be the best way to go, but it will require a lot of fine tuning to get there and I expect you could implement the dynamic pipe mechanism (hard limit maximum bandwidth to each client) in an hour or two. Now unfortunately I am not an expert on dynamic queues and dynamic pipes. The IPFW manual page describes them (look for the mask-specifier phrase in the manual page). From my read it ought to be really easy to set up dynamic pipes as an initial solution, and then experiment with the dynamic queues for a possible long-term solution. -Matt :Hi. We just opened a gaming center and have chosen to run a FreeBsd box for :our firewall. IPFW is configured at it's very basic running natd through rl0 :and allowing any to any connections from the lan to the outer world. Natd :controls access to the lan. : :We have a 6.0 mb/s ADSL net connection for all the gaming clients to use, :however if a gamer starts downloading a file, that file takes precendence and :causes everyone's pings 'in-game' to sky rocket to unplayable levels. I have :done some reading on DummyNet which is attached at the hip with IPFW, however I :have been unsuccessful in getting it to work properly. : :I have done some research and found this site: :http://info.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ip_dummynet/ : :After reading I became more confused than before. Should I share the link as a :whole to all 64 client machines OR should I set a fixed BW for all client :machines. Are there other websites out there that can help with this? : :Also if and when I do find a working pipe/queue config do I put it before the :natd via rl0 command or after? : :Thanks. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 14:48:12 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7067B37B401 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 14:48:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from franky.speednet.com.au (franky.speednet.com.au [203.57.65.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C62D43F93 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 14:48:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andyf@speednet.com.au) Received: from hewey.af.speednet.com.au (hewey.af.speednet.com.au [203.38.96.242])h52Lj5xe006844; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 07:45:05 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from andyf@speednet.com.au) Received: from hewey.af.speednet.com.au (hewey.af.speednet.com.au [172.22.2.17])h52Lj4UN066923; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 07:45:04 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from andyf@speednet.com.au) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 07:45:03 +1000 (EST) From: Andy Farkas X-X-Sender: andyf@hewey.af.speednet.com.au To: "Vladislav V. Zhuk" In-Reply-To: <20030602204924.GA2697@dru.dn.ua> Message-ID: <20030603071824.J66566-100000@hewey.af.speednet.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: Matthias Andree Subject: Re: "disable ata" in kernel configuration not working? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 21:48:12 -0000 On Mon, 2 Jun 2003, Vladislav V. Zhuk wrote: > It's one of well known demonstration of bugs new ATA driver. > This BUG is very strong and don't resolve in kernel.conf. > I wrote about this 3 times, but Soren Schmidt > is very busy for resolving this problem more than 1 year > or don't read stable@ and e-mail. Yes, the new ata driver now "owns" irq 14 & 15, although other devices seem to work ok if set to those irqs. On one of my boxes, I don't even have an ata0 or ata1 yet dmesg says: ... FreeBSD 5.1-BETA #0: Mon May 26 01:54:37 EST 2003 ... ahc0: at 0x4c00-0x4cff, irq 11 (level) ... atapci0: port 0xd400-0xd41f,[...] irq 14 at device 5.0 on pci0 ^^^^^^ ata2: at 0xe800 on atapci0 ata3: at 0xe000 on atapci0 ahc1: port 0xd000-0xd0ff mem 0xfbfcf000-0xfbfcffff irq 15 at device 6.0 on pci0 ... ^^^^^^ ata0 at port 0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa0 ata1 at port 0x376,0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa0 ... Those last 2 lines are completely bogus! There is no on-board ata controller, and nothing should respond at those io ports! Q for all: is systat(1) the only way to see interrupt activity? -- :{ andyf@speednet.com.au Andy Farkas System Administrator Speednet Communications http://www.speednet.com.au/ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 15:00:16 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C01237B416 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 15:00:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.vocollect.com (mx1.vocollect.com [208.40.161.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9135243F85 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 15:00:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bbender@vocollect.com) Received: from vocollect.com (pf1.vocollect.com [208.40.161.18]) by mx1.vocollect.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h52LuX8t022630 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 17:56:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 18:00:05 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Brian Bender To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <20030530190117.5632237B401@hub.freebsd.org> Message-Id: <91A7C1CC-9545-11D7-986E-000A959D8380@vocollect.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Subject: Re: WLAN support X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 22:00:16 -0000 On Fri, 30 May 2003 13:29:34 +0200, "Volker" wrote: > ... > I'm currently running a 4.7-release (upgrade to 4.8 planned but not > yet started) on my production box. > ... > Netgear WG511 (Cardbus) or WAG511 (Cardbus, 5 + 2.4 GHz) > SMC 2802W (PCI) or 2835W (Cardbus) > D-Link DWL G520 (PCI) or DWL G650 (Cardbus) > Belkin 802.11g/+ (don't have a product name by hand, PN PCI: > F5D7000, PN Cardbus: F5D7010 - not yet on market) > Nobody's commented on it yet, so maybe I'm out of touch, but I thought Cardbus support in 4.x was not quite mainstream-ready? Last time I looked, anyway (admittedly, 4.5-ish, iirc), it was only really supported in "-current", with the NEWCARD stuff only sort-of backported. 802.11a and 802.11g devices are all either PCI or Cardbus (no 16-bit PCCard), so for 4.x you'll likely want to go the PCI route. Unless I'm completely misinformed on the state of that backport, of course -- is NEWCARD stable in 4.x now, folks? I don't read -mobile very often... > ... > As I was reading that the high speed wireless devices are having a > better operating range compared to 802.11b devices, I don't want to > install 802.11b devices. That's a bit vague, or at least overbroad. :-) I'd recommend reading up on the state of that world a bit more... :-) Comparable 802.11b kit probably has as good or better range & penetration characteristics than 802.11a (2GHz vs 5GHz) if you compare current generation products (i.e. similar receiver sensitivities, etc.) - Brian From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 15:02:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F224B37B401 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 15:02:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from franky.speednet.com.au (franky.speednet.com.au [203.57.65.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C59F343F93 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 15:02:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andyf@speednet.com.au) Received: from hewey.af.speednet.com.au (hewey.af.speednet.com.au [203.38.96.242])h52M2Exe007431; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 08:02:14 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from andyf@speednet.com.au) Received: from hewey.af.speednet.com.au (hewey.af.speednet.com.au [203.38.96.242])h52M2DUN067023; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 08:02:13 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from andyf@speednet.com.au) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 08:02:13 +1000 (EST) From: Andy Farkas X-X-Sender: andyf@hewey.af.speednet.com.au To: David Wolfskill In-Reply-To: <200306022151.h52LpIKM029102@bunrab.catwhisker.org> Message-ID: <20030603075722.N66566-100000@hewey.af.speednet.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "disable ata" in kernel configuration not working? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 22:02:20 -0000 On Mon, 2 Jun 2003, David Wolfskill wrote: > >Q for all: is systat(1) the only way to see interrupt activity? > > No; see (e.g.) "vmstat -i". That answers the question, thanks :) Sadly, the -w and -c options do not work with -i (this should be documented in the man page!) -- :{ andyf@speednet.com.au Andy Farkas System Administrator Speednet Communications http://www.speednet.com.au/ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 15:07:12 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BED0737B404 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 15:07:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from franky.speednet.com.au (franky.speednet.com.au [203.57.65.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89A1943F3F for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 15:07:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andyf@speednet.com.au) Received: from hewey.af.speednet.com.au (hewey.af.speednet.com.au [203.38.96.242])h52M78xe007583; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 08:07:08 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from andyf@speednet.com.au) Received: from hewey.af.speednet.com.au (hewey.af.speednet.com.au [172.22.2.17])h52M77UN067068; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 08:07:07 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from andyf@speednet.com.au) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 08:07:07 +1000 (EST) From: Andy Farkas X-X-Sender: andyf@hewey.af.speednet.com.au To: David Wolfskill In-Reply-To: <20030603075722.N66566-100000@hewey.af.speednet.com.au> Message-ID: <20030603080556.J66566-100000@hewey.af.speednet.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "disable ata" in kernel configuration not working? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 22:07:13 -0000 Hmmmm, better correct myself.. On Tue, 3 Jun 2003, Andy Farkas wrote: > > Sadly, the -w and -c options do not work with -i (this should be > documented in the man page!) `man vmstat` ssys: BUGS The -c and -w options are only available with the default output. -- :{ andyf@speednet.com.au Andy Farkas System Administrator Speednet Communications http://www.speednet.com.au/ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 16:17:35 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F52437B401 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 16:17:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns1.itga.com.au (ns1.itga.com.au [202.53.40.214]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD76C43F3F for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 16:17:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by ns1.itga.com.au (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h52NHWm2096792; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 09:17:32 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15853; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 09:17:31 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <200306022317.JAA15853@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.4 05/15/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 From: Gregory Bond To: Tom Convery In-reply-to: Your message of Mon, 02 Jun 2003 12:52:05 -0400. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 09:17:31 +1000 Sender: gnb@itga.com.au cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hints on KVM switches w/ X X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 23:17:35 -0000 > What make/model of KVM and mouse are you using? I've had this happen to > me when the KVM doesn't _really_ support the mouse I'm using, e.g. using > an IntelliMouse Explorer with any Belkin KVM I've ever tried. Naturally, it's a Belkin. I'll try the flag and see if that works, or I could just have 2 mice and not KVM-switch them! Thanks everyone. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 17:10:51 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA78237B401 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 17:10:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from util.inch.com (ns.inch.com [216.223.192.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F35E443F75 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 17:10:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from spork@inch.com) Received: from shell.inch.com (www.inch.com [216.223.192.20]) h530AlUs075102; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 20:10:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from spork@inch.com) Received: from shell.inch.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by shell.inch.com (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h530AjSM023465; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 20:10:45 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from spork@inch.com) Received: from localhost (spork@localhost)h530AU4b023457; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 20:10:45 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: shell.inch.com: spork owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 20:10:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Charles Sprickman To: bigtruck@ownij.com In-Reply-To: <1054583721.3edbaba959c81@webmail.ownij.com> Message-ID: <20030602200453.S64514@shell.inch.com> References: <1054583721.3edbaba959c81@webmail.ownij.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.8-Stable DummyNet X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 00:10:51 -0000 Have you looked at the altq stuff at all? It's a bit more sophisticated than dummynet, and can likely do what you need. Charles -- Charles Sprickman spork@inch.com On Mon, 2 Jun 2003 bigtruck@ownij.com wrote: > Hi. We just opened a gaming center and have chosen to run a FreeBsd box for > our firewall. IPFW is configured at it's very basic running natd through rl0 > and allowing any to any connections from the lan to the outer world. Natd > controls access to the lan. > > We have a 6.0 mb/s ADSL net connection for all the gaming clients to use, > however if a gamer starts downloading a file, that file takes precendence and > causes everyone's pings 'in-game' to sky rocket to unplayable levels. I have > done some reading on DummyNet which is attached at the hip with IPFW, however I > have been unsuccessful in getting it to work properly. > > I have done some research and found this site: > http://info.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ip_dummynet/ > > After reading I became more confused than before. Should I share the link as a > whole to all 64 client machines OR should I set a fixed BW for all client > machines. Are there other websites out there that can help with this? > > Also if and when I do find a working pipe/queue config do I put it before the > natd via rl0 command or after? > > Thanks. > > > > Mike Purcell > Aka BigTrucK > Ownij Digital Entertainment > Betta Axe Somebody! > www.ownij.com > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 18:14:40 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5CAE37B401 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 18:14:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from carver.gumbysoft.com (carver.gumbysoft.com [66.220.23.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C0DD43F75 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 18:14:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gumbysoft.com) Received: by carver.gumbysoft.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5965872FDC; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 18:14:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by carver.gumbysoft.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54CE772FD1; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 18:14:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 18:14:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: Andy Farkas In-Reply-To: <20030603071824.J66566-100000@hewey.af.speednet.com.au> Message-ID: <20030602181017.J62803@carver.gumbysoft.com> References: <20030603071824.J66566-100000@hewey.af.speednet.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: Matthias Andree Subject: Re: "disable ata" in kernel configuration not working? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 01:14:41 -0000 On Tue, 3 Jun 2003, Andy Farkas wrote: > On Mon, 2 Jun 2003, Vladislav V. Zhuk wrote: > > > It's one of well known demonstration of bugs new ATA driver. > > This BUG is very strong and don't resolve in kernel.conf. > > I wrote about this 3 times, but Soren Schmidt > > is very busy for resolving this problem more than 1 year > > or don't read stable@ and e-mail. > > Yes, the new ata driver now "owns" irq 14 & 15, although other devices > seem to work ok if set to those irqs. On one of my boxes, I don't even > have an ata0 or ata1 yet dmesg says: Shared interrupts are OK in PCI. > ... > FreeBSD 5.1-BETA #0: Mon May 26 01:54:37 EST 2003 > ... > ahc0: at 0x4c00-0x4cff, irq 11 (level) > ... > atapci0: > port 0xd400-0xd41f,[...] irq 14 at device 5.0 on pci0 show us 'pciconf -lv' output. You probably actually do have a promise IDE controller on your system, you just can't use it/connect to it. Have you tried disabling it in the BIOS? > Q for all: is systat(1) the only way to see interrupt activity? vmstat -i If your system is SMP, mptable(8) might be interesting too. If your board is an Intel server board, you can pull the technical product specification, which shows you the interrupt map. -- Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@gumbysoft.com | www.FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 18:15:30 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B67A037B401 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 18:15:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from carver.gumbysoft.com (carver.gumbysoft.com [66.220.23.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58EFF43F85 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 18:15:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gumbysoft.com) Received: by carver.gumbysoft.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4AA6572FDC; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 18:15:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by carver.gumbysoft.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4952A72FD1; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 18:15:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 18:15:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: Arnvid Karstad In-Reply-To: <20030602221342.D1B0.ARNVID@karstad.org> Message-ID: <20030602181521.U62803@carver.gumbysoft.com> References: <20030602221342.D1B0.ARNVID@karstad.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IBM ServeRaid - ips driver? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 01:15:31 -0000 On Mon, 2 Jun 2003, Arnvid Karstad wrote: > Hiya all, > > Just saw that the 5.1 RC/Beta had finally support ips/serveraid > controllers. (Even tho 4Lx and 5i seem to have LSI chipsets contra the > older ones).... But when trying to boot the 5.1RC1 mini iso it failes > to detect my keyboard... The server is an IBM xSeries 335 1 u server > with and onboard LSI (mpt0) kontroller for the boot disks and an 4Lx > used for EXP300 external storage. Try a different keyboard mfr. or a USB keyboard. > > Anyone tried a similar scenario or hw configuartion with luck? > > > Mvh/Best regards, > > Arnvid L. Karstad > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@gumbysoft.com | www.FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 18:49:19 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9B8F37B401 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 18:49:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from franky.speednet.com.au (franky.speednet.com.au [203.57.65.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 780FE43F75 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 18:49:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andyf@speednet.com.au) Received: from hewey.af.speednet.com.au (hewey.af.speednet.com.au [203.38.96.242])h531mpxe019968; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 11:48:52 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from andyf@speednet.com.au) Received: from hewey.af.speednet.com.au (hewey.af.speednet.com.au [172.22.2.1])h531moUN067885; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 11:48:51 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from andyf@speednet.com.au) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 11:48:50 +1000 (EST) From: Andy Farkas X-X-Sender: andyf@hewey.af.speednet.com.au To: Doug White In-Reply-To: <20030602181017.J62803@carver.gumbysoft.com> Message-ID: <20030603112252.N66566-100000@hewey.af.speednet.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: Matthias Andree Subject: Re: "disable ata" in kernel configuration not working? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 01:49:20 -0000 On Mon, 2 Jun 2003, Doug White wrote: > On Tue, 3 Jun 2003, Andy Farkas wrote: > > > > Yes, the new ata driver now "owns" irq 14 & 15, although other devices > > seem to work ok if set to those irqs. On one of my boxes, I don't even > > have an ata0 or ata1 yet dmesg says: > > Shared interrupts are OK in PCI. Yes, and also on EISA (although you have to specify level trigerred). > > ... > > FreeBSD 5.1-BETA #0: Mon May 26 01:54:37 EST 2003 > > ... > > ahc0: at 0x4c00-0x4cff, irq 11 (level) > > ... > > atapci0: > > port 0xd400-0xd41f,[...] irq 14 at device 5.0 on pci0 > > show us 'pciconf -lv' output. You probably actually do have a promise IDE > controller on your system, you just can't use it/connect to it. > > Have you tried disabling it in the BIOS? I probably wasn't clear enough in my original post, so I'll explain the hardware setup - its a dual P133 (neptune) mobo, 128MB ram, with EISA and PCI slots. NOTE: there is no onboard floppy or ata! There no onboard serial or parallel ports. There is no onboard video. Its got a macronix net card (irq 10), an Adaptec scsi card (irq 15), and the Promise IDE card (irq 14) in the PCI slots. Its got an Adaptec scsi card (irq 11) and a video card in the EISA slots. The floppy controller is enabled (irq 6) on the Adaptec card. The problem is that the ata driver insists that there are controllers at ata0 and ata1 using irq 14 & 15 even though this is false. Also note that the ata driver insists on owning the irqs: # vmstat -i interrupt total rate stray irq7 1 0 ahc0 irq11 14 0 dc0 irq10 26105 0 ata0 irq14 189875 0 <-- should be atapci0 ata1 irq15 8902 0 <-- should be ahc1 atkbd0 irq1 2 0 fdc0 irq6 4 0 clk irq0 52368568 99 rtc irq8 67034815 128 Total 119628286 228 And just for the record, here is a pciconf -lv : # pciconf -lv hostb0@pci0:0:0: class=0x060000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x04a38086 rev=0x11 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82434LX/NX (Mercury/Neptune) Cache/DRAM Controller' class = bridge subclass = HOST-PCI eisab0@pci0:2:0: class=0x000000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x04828086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82375EB PCI-EISA Bridge (PCEB)' class = old subclass = non-VGA display device atapci0@pci0:5:0: class=0x010400 card=0x00000000 chip=0x4d33105a rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Promise Technology Inc' device = 'PDC20246 FastTrak Ultra ATA RAID controller' class = mass storage subclass = RAID ahc1@pci0:6:0: class=0x010000 card=0x78819004 chip=0x81789004 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Adaptec Inc' device = 'AHA-2940U/UW/2940D Ultra/Ultra Wide/Dual SCSI Host Adapter' class = mass storage subclass = SCSI dc0@pci0:7:0: class=0x020000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x053110d9 rev=0x20 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Macronix International Co. Ltd.' device = 'MX98715/725 Single Chip Fast Ethernet NIC Controller' class = network subclass = ethernet -- :{ andyf@speednet.com.au Andy Farkas System Administrator Speednet Communications http://www.speednet.com.au/ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 22:21:54 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65C3A37B401 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 22:21:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from digitalme.com (pop.digitalme.com [193.97.97.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2BF043FA3 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 22:21:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dkt@digitalme.com) Received: from dkt [210.0.207.157] by digitalme.com with NIMS ModWeb Module; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 13:21:50 +0800 From: Dung Patrick To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 13:21:50 +0800 X-Mailer: NIMS ModWeb Module X-Sender: dkt MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <1054617710.c6d291a0dkt@digitalme.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="BIG5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Kernel Panic [with trace] in using netgraph (one2many and fec) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 05:21:54 -0000 Hi, I am using FreeBSD 4-Stable with cvsup up to 3-June-2003 HKT. I am testing = with the netgraph modules (one2many and fec). While testing them, I have = changed the ipaddress ifconfig and load kernel module (one2many/fec) and = use ngctl command repeatly. I know I should not run the command or load m= odules repeatly but somehow I get kernel panic. Now I get a back trace with the core dump: Script started on Tue Jun 3 10:37:30 2003 fw# gdb -k GNU gdb 4.18 (FreeBSD) Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you ar= e welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain condition= s. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i386-unknown-freebsd". (kgdb) symbol-file kernel.debug Reading symbols from kernel.debug...Deprecated bfd_read called at /usr/src/= gnu/usr.bin/binutils/gdb/../../../../contrib/gdb/gdb/dbxread.c line 2627 = in elfstab_build_psymtabs Deprecated bfd_read called at /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/gdb/../../../..= /contrib/gdb/gdb/dbxread.c line 933 in fill_symbuf done. (kgdb) exec-file /var/crash/kernel.0 (kgdb) core-file /var/crash/vmcore.0 IdlePTD at phsyical address 0x003fe000 initial pcb at physical address 0x0034ee00 panicstr: page fault panic messages: --- Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address =3D 0x4 fault code =3D supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer =3D 0x8:0xc110b2da stack pointer =3D 0x10:0xc031c158 frame pointer =3D 0x10:0xc031c160 code segment =3D base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b =3D DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags =3D interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL =3D 0 current process =3D Idle interrupt mask =3D=20 trap number =3D 12 panic: page fault syncing disks...=20 Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address =3D 0x30 fault code =3D supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer =3D 0x8:0xc025820c stack pointer =3D 0x10:0xc031bf4c frame pointer =3D 0x10:0xc031bf54 code segment =3D base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b =3D DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags =3D interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL =3D 0 current process =3D Idle interrupt mask =3D bio=20 trap number =3D 12 panic: page fault Uptime: 30m0s dumping to dev #ad/0x50001, offset 764963 dump ata0: resetting devices .. done 126 [CTRL-C to abort] [CTRL-C to abort] 125 124 123 122 121 120 119 118 117= 116 115 114 113 112 111 110 109 108 107 106 105 104 103 102 101 100 99 9= 8 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 89 88 87 86 85 84 83 82 81 80 79 78 77 76 75 74= 73 72 71 70 69 68 67 66 65 64 63 62 61 60 59 58 57 56 55 54 53 52 51 50 = 49 48 47 46 45 44 43 42 41 40 39 38 37 36 35 34 33 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 2= 5 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0=20 --- #0 dumpsys () at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:487 487 if (dumping++) { (kgdb) where #0 dumpsys () at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:487 #1 0xc01842b7 in boot (howto=3D260) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:316 #2 0xc01846f5 in panic (fmt=3D0xc0312b0c "%s") at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.= c:595 #3 0xc02bb47f in trap_fatal (frame=3D0xc031bf0c, eva=3D48) at ../../i386/i3= 86/trap.c:974 #4 0xc02bb12d in trap_pfault (frame=3D0xc031bf0c, usermode=3D0, eva=3D48) a= t ../../i386/i386/trap.c:867 #5 0xc02bacd3 in trap (frame=3D{tf_fs =3D -1072037872, tf_es =3D 6422544, t= f_ds =3D -107053054442C tf_edi =3D 0,=20 tf_esi =3D -1056674816, tf_ebp =3D -1070481580, tf_isp =3D -1070481608, tf_= ebx =3D -1070379396, tf_edx =3D 6867008,=20 tf_ecx =3D -885163584, tf_eax =3D 0, tf_trapno =3D 12, tf_err =3D 0, tf_eip= =3D -1071283700, tf_cs =3D 8, tf_eflags =3D 66050,=20 tf_esp =3D -1056674816, tf_ss =3D -1056674816}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:4= 66 #6 0xc025820c in acquire_lock (lk=3D0xc0334e7c) at ../../ufs/ffs/ffs_softde= p.c:266 #7 0xc025c30c in softdep_update_inodeblock (ip=3D0xc1046c00, bp=3D0xc38126e= 4, waitfor=3D0) at ../../ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c:3813 #8 0xc0257301 in ffs_update (vp=3D0xcb3d79c0, waitfor=3D0) at ../../ufs/ffs= /ffs_inode.c:106 #9 0xc0260ee9 in ffs_fsync (ap=3D0xc031c000) at ../../ufs/ffs/ffs_vnops.c:2= 73 #10 0xc025f787 in ffs_sync (mp=3D0xc0fff400, waitfor=3D2, cred=3D0xc0b2a880= , p=3D0xc036af60) at vnode_if.h:558 #11 0xc01b4b6b in sync (p=3D0xc036af60, uap=3D0x0) at ../../kern/vfs_syscal= ls.c:577 #12 0xc0184052 in boot (howto=3D256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:235 #13 0xc01846f5 in panic (fmt=3D0xc0312b0c "%s") at ../../kern/kern_shutdown= .c:595 #14 0xc02bb47f in trap_fatal (frame=3D0xc031c118, eva=3D4) at ../../i386/i3= 86/trap.c:974 #15 0xc02bb12d in trap_pfault (frame=3D0xc031c118, usermode=3D0, eva=3D4) a= t ../../i386/i386/trap.c:867 #16 0xc02bacd3 in trap (frame=3D{tf_fs =3D -1061945328, tf_es =3D -10705305= 44, tf_ds =3D -1071382512, tf_edi =3D 0,=20 tf_esi =3D -1055967744, tf_ebp =3D -1070481056, tf_isp =3D -1070481084, tf_= ebx =3D 0, tf_edx =3D -1061942016,=20 tf_ecx =3D -1055893248, tf_eax =3D 0, tf_trapno =3D 12, tf_err =3D 0, tf_ei= p =3D -1055870246, tf_cs =3D 8, tf_eflags =3D 66118,=20 tf_esp =3D -1056978784, tf_ss =3D -1055967744}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.cc6 #17 0xc110b2da in ?? () #18 0xc110b7a7 in ?? () #19 0xc02adaf9 in swi_net_next () (kgdb) up 16 #16 0xc02bacd3 in trap (frame=3D{tf_fs =3D -1061945328, tf_es =3D -10705305= 44, tf_ds =3D -1071382512, tf_edi =3D 0, tf_esi =3D -1055967744, tf_ebp =3D -1070481056, tf_isp =3D -1070481084, tf_= ebx =3D 0, tf_edx =3D -1061942016, tf_ecx =3D -1055893248, tf_eax =3D 0, tf_trapno =3D 12, tf_err =3D 0, tf_ei= p =3D -1055870246, tf_cs =3D 8, tf_eflags =3D 66118, tf_esp =3D -1056978784, tf_ss =3D -1055967744}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:4= 66 466 (void) trap_pfault(&frame, FALSE, eva); (kgdb) quit fw# exit exit Script done on Tue Jun 3 10:39:40 2003 Regards, Patrick From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 23:27:23 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25DBC37B401 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 23:27:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 151FC43F85 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 23:27:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h536RFgD058131; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 15:57:16 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: Tom Convery , Gregory Bond , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 15:57:13 +0930 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <200306020607.QAA18727@lightning.itga.com.au> <3EDB80B5.9040300@tomfoo.com> In-Reply-To: <3EDB80B5.9040300@tomfoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200306031557.14492.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> X-Spam-Score: -1.5 () CARRIAGE_RETURNS,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.16 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) Subject: Re: hints on KVM switches w/ X X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 06:27:23 -0000 On Tue, 3 Jun 2003 02:22, Tom Convery wrote: > What make/model of KVM and mouse are you using? I've had this happen to > me when the KVM doesn't _really_ support the mouse I'm using, e.g. using > an IntelliMouse Explorer with any Belkin KVM I've ever tried. IMHO the "correct" solution to this problem is to use USB mice and KVMs.. USB is designed to be hot swapped, PS/2 isn't. If you use USB, none of the evil reinit tricks are needed. I expected you'd end up with a lot of ums0:.. messages in your syslog from insert/removals though :) -- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 9A8C 569F 685A D928 5140 AE4B 319B 41F4 5D17 FDD5 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 23:32:23 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9264F37B401 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 23:32:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9642343F75 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 23:32:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h536WHgD058266; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 16:02:18 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: bigtruck@ownij.com, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 16:02:17 +0930 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <1054583721.3edbaba959c81@webmail.ownij.com> In-Reply-To: <1054583721.3edbaba959c81@webmail.ownij.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200306031601.55688.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -1.5 () CARRIAGE_RETURNS,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_02_03,USER_AGENT X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.16 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) Subject: Re: 4.8-Stable DummyNet X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 06:32:23 -0000 On Tue, 3 Jun 2003 05:25, bigtruck@ownij.com wrote: > After reading I became more confused than before. Should I share the link > as a whole to all 64 client machines OR should I set a fixed BW for all > client machines. Are there other websites out there that can help with > this? > > Also if and when I do find a working pipe/queue config do I put it before > the natd via rl0 command or after? I think you'd be best off making pipes for each machine.. I use dummynet pipes at home to limit my TCP traffic to prevent my pings from going bad when someone downloads or uploads. eg -> # Rate limit out going TCP ${fwcmd} pipe 1 config bw 1kbyte/sec queue 10kbytes ${fwcmd} add pipe 1 tcp from any to any out via tun0 # Limit incoming TCP ${fwcmd} pipe 2 config bw 5kbyte/sec queue 10kbytes ${fwcmd} add pipe 2 tcp from any to any in recv tun0 -- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 9A8C 569F 685A D928 5140 AE4B 319B 41F4 5D17 FDD5 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 23:57:24 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E919E37B401 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 23:57:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.svzserv.kemerovo.su (www.svzserv.kemerovo.su [213.184.65.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ED6143F93 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 23:57:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eugen@kuzbass.ru) Received: from kuzbass.ru (kost [213.184.65.82])h536vIYt027229; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 14:57:18 +0800 (KRAST) (envelope-from eugen@kuzbass.ru) Message-ID: <3EDC4645.60D9E016@kuzbass.ru> Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 14:55:01 +0800 From: Eugene Grosbein Organization: SVZServ X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: ru,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bigtruck@ownij.com References: <1054583721.3edbaba959c81@webmail.ownij.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.8-Stable DummyNet X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 06:57:24 -0000 bigtruck@ownij.com wrote: > > Hi. We just opened a gaming center and have chosen to run a FreeBsd box for > our firewall. IPFW is configured at it's very basic running natd through rl0 > and allowing any to any connections from the lan to the outer world. Natd > controls access to the lan. > > We have a 6.0 mb/s ADSL net connection for all the gaming clients to use, > however if a gamer starts downloading a file, that file takes precendence and > causes everyone's pings 'in-game' to sky rocket to unplayable levels. I have > done some reading on DummyNet which is attached at the hip with IPFW, however I > have been unsuccessful in getting it to work properly. First of all, you should shape traffic on LAN imho, it will give you much more control over situation. Second, you should create two dummynet pipes, one for incoming and one for outgoing traffic and set 6.0Mbit/s for its bandwidth parameter. Then, you can engage WF2Q feature of dummynet that is capable of "fair allocation" of bandwidth between competitors. You create two queues using 'mask src-ip 0xffffffff' for outgoing traffic and 'mask dst-ip 0xffffffff' for incoming. And you divert all of LAN traffic going into queues. That may be quite good for you. Furthermore, you can engage GRED for preventing excessive TCP packet drops, but that should be next stage. Eugene Grosbein From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 3 00:27:58 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D7A437B401 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 00:27:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dn.farlep.net (ns.dn.farlep.net [213.130.10.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40CBB43F93 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 00:27:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from admin@dru.dn.ua) Received: from dru.dn.ua (dru.dn.ua [195.5.20.167])h537RDje074666 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 10:27:15 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from admin@localhost) by dru.dn.ua (8.12.9/8.12.9) id h537QdEB028892; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 10:26:39 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from admin) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 10:26:39 +0300 From: "Vladislav V. Zhuk" To: Andy Farkas Message-ID: <20030603072639.GB28000@dru.dn.ua> References: <20030602204924.GA2697@dru.dn.ua> <20030603071824.J66566-100000@hewey.af.speednet.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030603071824.J66566-100000@hewey.af.speednet.com.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "disable ata" in kernel configuration not working? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 07:27:58 -0000 On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 07:45:03AM +1000, Andy Farkas wrote: > On Mon, 2 Jun 2003, Vladislav V. Zhuk wrote: > > > It's one of well known demonstration of bugs new ATA driver. > > This BUG is very strong and don't resolve in kernel.conf. > > I wrote about this 3 times, but Soren Schmidt > > is very busy for resolving this problem more than 1 year > > or don't read stable@ and e-mail. > > Yes, the new ata driver now "owns" irq 14 & 15, although other devices > seem to work ok if set to those irqs. On one of my boxes, I don't even > have an ata0 or ata1 yet dmesg says: > > FreeBSD 5.1-BETA #0: Mon May 26 01:54:37 EST 2003 ^^^^^^^^^^^^ My FreeBSD 4.8S don't work if any device this IRQ. [ ... ] > ata0 at port 0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa0 > ata1 at port 0x376,0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa0 > > ... > > Those last 2 lines are completely bogus! There is no on-board ata > controller, and nothing should respond at those io ports! With old ATA driver I use multiport on IRQ 15, but after cvsup to fbsd4.5 my system hang. Now I don't have any device on IRQ 15 and can't use this resource. -- Vladislav V. Zhuk (06267)3-60-03 admin@dru.dn.ua 2:465/197@FidoNet.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 3 00:43:49 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3235A37B41F for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 00:43:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dn.farlep.net (ns.dn.farlep.net [213.130.10.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC05143F75 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 00:43:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from admin@dru.dn.ua) Received: from dru.dn.ua (dru.dn.ua [195.5.20.167])h537h1je075671 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 10:43:02 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from admin@localhost) by dru.dn.ua (8.12.9/8.12.9) id h537gTKs029826; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 10:42:29 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from admin) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 10:42:29 +0300 From: "Vladislav V. Zhuk" To: Doug White Message-ID: <20030603074229.GC28000@dru.dn.ua> References: <20030603071824.J66566-100000@hewey.af.speednet.com.au> <20030602181017.J62803@carver.gumbysoft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030602181017.J62803@carver.gumbysoft.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "disable ata" in kernel configuration not working? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 07:43:50 -0000 On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 06:14:40PM -0700, Doug White wrote: > On Tue, 3 Jun 2003, Andy Farkas wrote: > > > On Mon, 2 Jun 2003, Vladislav V. Zhuk wrote: > > > > > It's one of well known demonstration of bugs new ATA driver. > > > This BUG is very strong and don't resolve in kernel.conf. > > > I wrote about this 3 times, but Soren Schmidt > > > is very busy for resolving this problem more than 1 year > > > or don't read stable@ and e-mail. > > > > Yes, the new ata driver now "owns" irq 14 & 15, although other devices > > seem to work ok if set to those irqs. On one of my boxes, I don't even > > have an ata0 or ata1 yet dmesg says: > > Shared interrupts are OK in PCI. Tell about this to my box that hang at boot time if any device use irq 15 (with old ATA driver box works OK) -- Vladislav V. Zhuk (06267)3-60-03 admin@dru.dn.ua 2:465/197@FidoNet.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 3 03:39:41 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F223537B401 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 03:39:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 526B143F85 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 03:39:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@ofug.org) Received: by flood.ping.uio.no (Postfix, from userid 2602) id E468B530E; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 12:39:38 +0200 (CEST) X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: Andy Farkas References: <20030603112252.N66566-100000@hewey.af.speednet.com.au> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 12:39:38 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20030603112252.N66566-100000@hewey.af.speednet.com.au> (Andy Farkas's message of "Tue, 3 Jun 2003 11:48:50 +1000 (EST)") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1001 (Gnus v5.10.1) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: Matthias Andree cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "disable ata" in kernel configuration not working? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 10:39:41 -0000 Andy Farkas writes: > atapci0@pci0:5:0: class=0x010400 card=0x00000000 chip=0x4d33105a rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Promise Technology Inc' > device = 'PDC20246 FastTrak Ultra ATA RAID controller' > class = mass storage > subclass = RAID Still certain you don't have an ATA controller in your system? If this is a dual-channel controller, the channels will appear as ata0 and ata1. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 3 05:03:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A720837B404 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 05:03:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lilzcluster.liwest.at (lilzclust01.liwest.at [212.33.55.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C601D43F85 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 05:03:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgw@liwest.at) Received: from linkinpark by lilzcluster.liwest.at (8.10.2/1.1.2.11/08Jun01-1123AM) id h53C3nw0000677427; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 14:03:49 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: <000501c329ca$963da1e0$0300000a@linkinpark> From: "Daniela" To: Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 14:20:57 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: Server overloaded? Or is it a bug? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 12:03:53 -0000 Hi all! I need your help. My server doesn't respond any more. Everything crashed. How can I find out if this is a bug or it is simply overloaded? I don't have much running, just KDE with about 10 programs on each of the 16 desktops, and a few background processes. This seems much, but I often have much more stuff running, and it is not even slow. It does respond when I ping it, but won't let me in over SSH. The processor doesn't sound busy, so I suspect that the scheduler has gone away, or there is some bug in the kernel, or some system table is too small. How do I find out what the problem is? (Never had any before.) FreeBSD has always managed the highest loads, even on normal PC hardware. Is it possible to bring the server back without rebooting? I would lose a lot of unsaved data if I had to reboot. I'm running 4.8-STABLE. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Daniela From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 3 05:30:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82B6937B404 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 05:30:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from franky.speednet.com.au (franky.speednet.com.au [203.57.65.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36FBB43FA3 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 05:30:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andyf@speednet.com.au) Received: from hewey.af.speednet.com.au (hewey.af.speednet.com.au [203.38.96.242])h53CUGxe050210; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 22:30:17 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from andyf@speednet.com.au) Received: from hewey.af.speednet.com.au (hewey.af.speednet.com.au [172.22.2.17])h53CUFUN070004; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 22:30:16 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from andyf@speednet.com.au) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 22:30:15 +1000 (EST) From: Andy Farkas X-X-Sender: andyf@hewey.af.speednet.com.au To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030603215752.K69881-100000@hewey.af.speednet.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "disable ata" in kernel configuration not working? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 12:30:20 -0000 > > atapci0@pci0:5:0: class=0x010400 card=0x00000000 chip=0x4d33105a rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 > > vendor = 'Promise Technology Inc' > > device = 'PDC20246 FastTrak Ultra ATA RAID controller' > > class = mass storage > > subclass = RAID > > Still certain you don't have an ATA controller in your system? If > this is a dual-channel controller, the channels will appear as ata0 > and ata1. I am certain there is a total of one (1) ata controllers in the box; I put it in there myself. It does NOT appear as ata0 and ata1, it appears as ata2 and ata3. Like I said before, there is no onboard ata controller. Note how the one and only ide disk that this box boots from is ad4: Note how the ata driver bogusly claims there are controllers at ata0 & ata1 and that the irqs overlap with previously probed devices: ... atapci0: port 0xd400-0xd41f,0xd804-0xd807,0xe000-0xe007,0xe404-0xe407,0xe800-0xe807 irq 14 at device 5.0 on pci0 ata2: at 0xe800 on atapci0 ata3: at 0xe000 on atapci0 ahc1: port 0xd000-0xd0ff mem 0xfbfcf000-0xfbfcffff irq 15 at device 6.0 on pci0 aic7880: Ultra Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/253 SCBs ... ata0 at port 0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa0 ata1 at port 0x376,0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa0 ... ad4: 8223MB [16708/16/63] at ata2-master UDMA33 Waiting 3 seconds for SCSI devices to settle da0 at ahc1 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-CCS device da0: 3.300MB/s transfers da0: 202MB (415600 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 202C) SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad4s1a ps. I am only editting out non-relevent stuff from the above dmesg.boot file. I can send the entire thing if requested. -- :{ andyf@speednet.com.au Andy Farkas System Administrator Speednet Communications http://www.speednet.com.au/ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 3 07:50:38 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D70B37B401 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 07:50:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DF97143F75 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 07:50:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 32125 invoked by uid 65534); 3 Jun 2003 14:50:35 -0000 Received: from p50910E96.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO mail.gsinet.sittig.org) (80.145.14.150) by mail.gmx.net (mp021) with SMTP; 03 Jun 2003 16:50:35 +0200 Received: (qmail 9931 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2003 14:15:58 -0000 Received: from shell.gsinet.sittig.org (192.168.11.153) by mail.gsinet.sittig.org with SMTP; 3 Jun 2003 14:15:58 -0000 Received: (from sittig@localhost) by shell.gsinet.sittig.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id h53EFrT09918 for stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 16:15:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sittig) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 16:15:53 +0200 From: Gerhard Sittig To: stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030603161553.W26888@shell.gsinet.sittig.org> Mail-Followup-To: stable@freebsd.org References: <20030603215752.K69881-100000@hewey.af.speednet.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20030603215752.K69881-100000@hewey.af.speednet.com.au>; from andyf@speednet.com.au on Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 10:30:15PM +1000 Organization: System Defenestrators Inc. Subject: Re: "disable ata" in kernel configuration not working? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 14:50:38 -0000 On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 22:30 +1000, Andy Farkas wrote: > > I am certain there is a total of one (1) ata controllers in the box; I put > it in there myself. It does NOT appear as ata0 and ata1, it appears as > ata2 and ata3. Like I said before, there is no onboard ata controller. > > Note how the one and only ide disk that this box boots from is ad4: > Note how the ata driver bogusly claims there are controllers at ata0 & > ata1 and that the irqs overlap with previously probed devices: Your kernel config has ata entries for ISA controllers. Remove them and your PCI adapter should become ata0 and the disk should become ad0. (If this is what you wanted, I couldn't get it from your last message and did not follow the thread too closely.) > ... > atapci0: > port 0xd400-0xd41f,0xd804-0xd807,0xe000-0xe007,0xe404-0xe407,0xe800-0xe807 > irq 14 at device 5.0 on pci0 > ata2: at 0xe800 on atapci0 > ata3: at 0xe000 on atapci0 > [ snip ] > ... > ata0 at port 0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa0 > ata1 at port 0x376,0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa0 > ... > ad4: 8223MB [16708/16/63] at ata2-master UDMA33 Do you see the "ata0 ... on isa0" connection/binding? Even if there is no hardware to handle, the logical number is allocated. So the first auto recognised (i.e. additional) controller cannot live there, too. This is very similar to the "Why does my (one and only) NE2K PCMCIA clone show up as ed1?" question, while people have ed0 bound to an (absent) ISA card in their config as it is in GENERIC. virtually yours 82D1 9B9C 01DC 4FB4 D7B4 61BE 3F49 4F77 72DE DA76 Gerhard Sittig true | mail -s "get gpg key" Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 3 09:49:24 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16EB237B401 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 09:49:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from s-smtp-osl-01.bluecom.no (s-smtp-osl-01.bluecom.no [62.101.193.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38C3443F93 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 09:49:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from erik@pentadon.com) Received: from eps (tromso-dhcp-234-175.bluecom.no [62.101.234.175]) by s-smtp-osl-01.bluecom.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68C5C163561; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 18:49:21 +0200 (CEST) From: "Erik Paulsen Skaalerud" To: "'Daniela'" , Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 18:49:29 +0200 Message-ID: <000401c329f0$19f0fee0$0a00000a@eps> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000501c329ca$963da1e0$0300000a@linkinpark> Subject: RE: Server overloaded? Or is it a bug? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 16:49:24 -0000 > Hi all! Hi > I need your help. Ok. You should ask generic questions like this on freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, as its not directly rleated to FreeBSD-STABLE. > My server doesn't respond any more. Everything crashed. > How can I find out if this is a bug or it is simply overloaded? Did you try looking at its console? It probably have lots of pretty messages of whats going on.. > I don't have much running, just KDE with about 10 programs > on each of the 16 desktops, and a few background processes. > This seems much, but I often have much more stuff running, > and it is not even slow. > > It does respond when I ping it, but won't let me in over SSH. > The processor doesn't sound busy, so I suspect that the > scheduler has gone away, or there is some bug in the kernel, > or some system table is too small. Hm. What kind of sound does a busy CPU make? :-) > How do I find out what the problem is? (Never had any > before.) Yeah, attach a console and find out whats going on. > FreeBSD has always managed the highest loads, even > on normal PC hardware. Is it possible to bring the server > back without rebooting? I would lose a lot of unsaved data if > I had to reboot. I'm running 4.8-STABLE. When a server responds to ping, but ssh times out etc it often relates to hdd problems. Atleast in my experiences it has been so (dead disk). And if it is hdd problems, and FreeBSD couldnt get the disk to wake up again, you probably already have lost data. > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > Daniela From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 3 10:52:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8140337B401 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 10:52:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from transbay.net (www.transbay.net [209.133.53.217]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1054343F75 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 10:52:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from computing@kpfa.org) Received: from twentytwo (zoc-int-brk27.zocalo.net [157.22.9.14] (may be forged)) by transbay.net (8.11.6p2/8.11.2) with SMTP id h53Hq9N71502 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 10:52:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20030603092428.009a7d70@transbay.net> X-Sender: k-comput@transbay.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 09:24:28 -0700 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: computing@kpfa.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Wheel Mouse on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 17:52:10 -0000 FreeBSD 4.8, Logitek optical mouse, /etc/XF86Config: Section "Pointer" Protocol "SysMouse" Device "/dev/mouse" Buttons 5 ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection ...works for Mozilla, Opera, StarOffice, but not for XFmail.....Dan. Dan Albers computing@kpfa.org (510)848-6767 x211 === Measure twice, cut once. === From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 3 11:10:44 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEC7037B401 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 11:10:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from reiher.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de (wi4d22.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de [132.187.101.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E61FB43F75 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 11:10:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mkb@mukappabeta.de) Received: from mukappabeta.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by reiher.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48D025C50; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 20:12:04 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3EDCE4F4.7090102@mukappabeta.de> Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 20:12:04 +0200 From: Matthias Buelow User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.4b) Gecko/20030530 X-Accept-Language: de-de, de, en-gb, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: computing@kpfa.org References: <3.0.6.32.20030603092428.009a7d70@transbay.net> In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20030603092428.009a7d70@transbay.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.75.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wheel Mouse on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 18:10:45 -0000 computing@kpfa.org wrote: > ...works for Mozilla, Opera, StarOffice, but not for > XFmail.....Dan. It also doesn't work with Motif etc. If the toolkit doesn't have knowledge about using the extra "buttons" for scrolling up/down then there's nothing the X server can do about it. -- Matthias Buelow home: mkb/at/mukappabeta.de uni: mkb/at/informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 3 11:29:15 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D7D137B401 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 11:29:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpproxy2.mitre.org (smtpproxy2.mitre.org [192.80.55.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3949A43F3F for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 11:29:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jandrese@mitre.org) Received: from avsrv2.mitre.org (avsrv2.mitre.org [128.29.154.4]) by smtpproxy2.mitre.org (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h53ITBAu009124; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 14:29:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from MAILHUB1 (mailhub1.mitre.org [129.83.20.31]) by smtpsrv2.mitre.org (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h53ITCwd003484; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 14:29:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mm112324-2k.mitre.org (128.29.3.65) by mailhub1.mitre.org with SMTP id 2792339; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 14:29:00 -0400 Message-ID: <3EDCE8EB.3080507@mitre.org> Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 14:28:59 -0400 From: Jason Andresen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030312 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthias Buelow References: <3.0.6.32.20030603092428.009a7d70@transbay.net> <3EDCE4F4.7090102@mukappabeta.de> In-Reply-To: <3EDCE4F4.7090102@mukappabeta.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wheel Mouse on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 18:29:15 -0000 Matthias Buelow wrote: > computing@kpfa.org wrote: > >> ...works for Mozilla, Opera, StarOffice, but not for >> XFmail.....Dan. > > > It also doesn't work with Motif etc. If the toolkit doesn't have > knowledge about using the extra "buttons" for scrolling up/down then > there's nothing the X server can do about it. Is there a way to map the wheel to page up/down keystrokes? Windows does that sometimes. -- \ |_ _|__ __|_ \ __| Jason Andresen jandrese@mitre.org |\/ | | | / _| Network and Distributed Systems Engineer _| _|___| _| _|_\___| Office: 703-883-7755 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 3 11:52:02 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAA9E37B401 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 11:52:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chaos.fxp.org (chaos.fxp.org [209.251.159.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51F6843F93 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 11:52:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jedgar@fxp.org) Received: by chaos.fxp.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C58A23DF; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 14:49:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 14:49:55 -0400 From: Chris Faulhaber To: Jason Andresen Message-ID: <20030603184955.GF19424@chaos.fxp.org> References: <3.0.6.32.20030603092428.009a7d70@transbay.net> <3EDCE4F4.7090102@mukappabeta.de> <3EDCE8EB.3080507@mitre.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="SUOF0GtieIMvvwua" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3EDCE8EB.3080507@mitre.org> X-Mailer: socket() cc: Matthias Buelow cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wheel Mouse on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 18:52:03 -0000 --SUOF0GtieIMvvwua Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 02:28:59PM -0400, Jason Andresen wrote: > Matthias Buelow wrote: > >computing@kpfa.org wrote: > > > >>...works for Mozilla, Opera, StarOffice, but not for > >>XFmail.....Dan. > > > > > >It also doesn't work with Motif etc. If the toolkit doesn't have=20 > >knowledge about using the extra "buttons" for scrolling up/down then=20 > >there's nothing the X server can do about it. >=20 > Is there a way to map the wheel to page up/down keystrokes? Windows=20 > does that sometimes. >=20 ports/x11/imwheel ? --=20 Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org --SUOF0GtieIMvvwua Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) Comment: FreeBSD: The Power To Serve iD8DBQE+3O3TObaG4P6BelARAt5eAJ9v+5wr28sm6JRAzEnPYtQ1tIKt6ACfYUhr D9uEM38tHwtXp/IVYgu7Epk= =c8at -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --SUOF0GtieIMvvwua-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 3 12:04:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFE7837B404 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 12:04:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from reiher.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de (wi4d22.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de [132.187.101.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A24C943FDF for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 12:04:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mkb@mukappabeta.de) Received: from mukappabeta.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by reiher.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD0FF5C50; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 21:05:30 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3EDCF17A.2040600@mukappabeta.de> Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 21:05:30 +0200 From: Matthias Buelow User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.4b) Gecko/20030530 X-Accept-Language: de-de, de, en-gb, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jason Andresen References: <3.0.6.32.20030603092428.009a7d70@transbay.net> <3EDCE4F4.7090102@mukappabeta.de> <3EDCE8EB.3080507@mitre.org> In-Reply-To: <3EDCE8EB.3080507@mitre.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.75.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wheel Mouse on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 19:04:11 -0000 Jason Andresen wrote: > Matthias Buelow wrote: > >> computing@kpfa.org wrote: >> >>> ...works for Mozilla, Opera, StarOffice, but not for >>> XFmail.....Dan. >> >> >> >> It also doesn't work with Motif etc. If the toolkit doesn't have >> knowledge about using the extra "buttons" for scrolling up/down then >> there's nothing the X server can do about it. > > > Is there a way to map the wheel to page up/down keystrokes? Windows > does that sometimes. Hmm, don't know.. one thing you could do, with Xt based toolkits (Athena, OpenLook, Motif, etc.), is write translations and actions in the the app's X defaults file that, upon the respective button press (4 or 5) calls the widget's scroll-up/down action procedure, if such one exists. I've done this once for the Motif List widget and it worked reasonably well although not quite like in toolkits which have wheel-scrolling built in. For example (refer to man 3 XmList) something like the following translation should work to scroll the list down by 3 items (moving the list cursor, though, just as if the arrow-down key was pressed): : \ ListNextItem() \ ListNextItem() \ ListNextItem() I might not have gotten the syntax completely right since I don't have any Xt manual around right here but you get the idea. The translations can be specified in the app's defaults file or in your .Xdefaults globally using a string value. Many Xt-derived widgets can be programmed from the "outside" this way, including the text widget, scroll-bars etc. -- Matthias Buelow home: mkb/at/mukappabeta.de uni: mkb/at/informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 3 13:04:24 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E8B837B401 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 13:04:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from erg.verweg.com (erg.verweg.com [217.77.141.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EADFC43F85 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 13:04:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ruben@erg.verweg.com) Received: from erg.verweg.com (erg.verweg.com [217.77.141.129]) by erg.verweg.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h53K4IAV001751 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 22:04:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ruben@erg.verweg.com) Received: (from ruben@localhost) by erg.verweg.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h53K4Hq0001750 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 22:04:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ruben) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 22:04:17 +0200 From: Ruben van Staveren To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030603200417.GA1442@erg.verweg.com> References: <3.0.6.32.20030603092428.009a7d70@transbay.net> <3EDCE4F4.7090102@mukappabeta.de> <3EDCE8EB.3080507@mitre.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3EDCE8EB.3080507@mitre.org> X-LeerQuoten: http://leerquoten.verweg.com Organisation: Verweg Dot Com X-message: Zeker Outlook ? X-Opinion: These opinions are exclusively mine, you cannot have them. Patent pending. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-16.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_MUTT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Subject: Re: Wheel Mouse on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 20:04:24 -0000 Hi there, On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 02:28:59PM -0400, Jason Andresen wrote: > > Is there a way to map the wheel to page up/down keystrokes? Windows > does that sometimes. Have a look at: http://koala.ilog.fr/colas/mouse-wheel-scroll/ Cheers, Ruben -- ,-_ .----------------------------------------------------------------. /() ) | Ruben van Staveren http://ruben.is.verweg.com/ |_o (__ ( |Men are from Mars. Women are from Venus. Computers are from hell| #> =/ () `----------------------------------------------------------------' 4 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 3 13:18:25 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6481237B401 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 13:18:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fubar.adept.org (fubar.adept.org [63.147.172.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB57143FBF for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 13:18:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@adept.org) Received: by fubar.adept.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B180A1524B; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 13:13:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fubar.adept.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADF7015247 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 13:13:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 13:13:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Hoskins To: stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <000501c329ca$963da1e0$0300000a@linkinpark> Message-ID: <20030603130623.S75412@fubar.adept.org> References: <000501c329ca$963da1e0$0300000a@linkinpark> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: Server overloaded? Or is it a bug? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 20:18:25 -0000 On Tue, 3 Jun 2003, Daniela wrote: > My server doesn't respond any more. Everything crashed. Did the system wedge hard, or did X just lockup? Does ctrl-alt-backspace do anything? That will often kill X if it's misbehaving. More information about your hardware might also help someone spot potential problems. > How can I find out if this is a bug or it is simply overloaded? You said this has never happened before... Were you running anything or doing anything that might coincide with the crash? Crash may not be the right word... The first thing is deciding if it's really the OS, or some application that's caused the behavior. > I don't have much running, just KDE with about 10 programs > on each of the 16 desktops, and a few background processes. > This seems much, but I often have much more stuff running, > and it is not even slow. What's the load average look like? Are these network or I/O heavy programs, or just "simple" applications? > It does respond when I ping it, but won't let me in over SSH. Can you login locally? Are the consoles unresponsive? Was anything printed on the console, particularly bright-white text? :) > The processor doesn't sound busy, so I suspect that the > scheduler has gone away, or there is some bug in the kernel, or > some system table is too small. If the disk, network, etc. are quiet and the machine in unresponsive to console input... Your only option may be a reboot and a thorough investigation afterwards. > I would lose a lot of unsaved data if I had to reboot. Eek. Save often, regardless of OS. ;) -mrh -- From: "Spam Catcher" To: spam-catcher@adept.org Do NOT send email to the address listed above or you will be added to a blacklist! From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 3 13:18:57 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A01D037B404 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 13:18:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lilzcluster.liwest.at (lilzclust01.liwest.at [212.33.55.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8388B43F75 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 13:18:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgw@liwest.at) Received: from cm58-27.liwest.at by lilzcluster.liwest.at (8.10.2/1.1.2.11/08Jun01-1123AM) id h53KImO0000936408; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 22:18:50 +0200 (MEST) From: Daniela To: "Erik Paulsen Skaalerud" , Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 22:17:49 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 References: <000401c329f0$19f0fee0$0a00000a@eps> In-Reply-To: <000401c329f0$19f0fee0$0a00000a@eps> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200306032217.49730.dgw@liwest.at> Subject: Re: Server overloaded? Or is it a bug? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 20:18:58 -0000 On Tuesday 03 June 2003 16:49, Erik Paulsen Skaalerud wrote: Thanks for your reply. > > Hi all! > > Hi > > > I need your help. > > Ok. You should ask generic questions like this on > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, as its not directly rleated to > FreeBSD-STABLE. I thought it might be some bug in -STABLE. > > My server doesn't respond any more. Everything crashed. > > How can I find out if this is a bug or it is simply overloaded? > > Did you try looking at its console? > It probably have lots of pretty messages of whats going on.. Can't look at the console. It hangs completely. > > I don't have much running, just KDE with about 10 programs > > on each of the 16 desktops, and a few background processes. > > This seems much, but I often have much more stuff running, > > and it is not even slow. > > > > It does respond when I ping it, but won't let me in over SSH. > > The processor doesn't sound busy, so I suspect that the > > scheduler has gone away, or there is some bug in the kernel, > > or some system table is too small. > > Hm. What kind of sound does a busy CPU make? :-) > > > How do I find out what the problem is? (Never had any > > before.) > > Yeah, attach a console and find out whats going on. How can I do that? It doesn't respond to ctrl+alt+backspace and ctrl+alt+del, I can still move the mouse, but I can't click anything. (I known I shouldn't run X11 on a server.) > > FreeBSD has always managed the highest loads, even > > on normal PC hardware. Is it possible to bring the server > > back without rebooting? I would lose a lot of unsaved data if > > I had to reboot. I'm running 4.8-STABLE. > > When a server responds to ping, but ssh times out etc it often relates to > hdd problems. Atleast in my experiences it has been so (dead disk). And if > it is hdd problems, and FreeBSD couldnt get the disk to wake up again, you > probably already have lost data. That could be the cause. One minute before the crash I could still enter shell builtin commands, but external commands did just nothing. Is it possible that the process table is full (I had more than 450 processes last time I ran top) or I ran out of memory (512M RAM + 1024M swap)? > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Daniela From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 3 13:28:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6369437B401 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 13:28:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (A17-250-248-86.apple.com [17.250.248.86]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAF4D43F3F for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 13:28:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin08-en2 [10.13.10.153]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id h53KS9xo024990 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 13:28:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mac.com (dpvc-68-161-244-25.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.244.25]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id h53KREft027942 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 13:27:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 16:29:54 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Charles Swiger To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <200306032217.49730.dgw@liwest.at> Message-Id: <22801B84-9602-11D7-8522-003065ABFD92@mac.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Subject: Re: Server overloaded? Or is it a bug? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 20:28:10 -0000 On Tuesday, June 3, 2003, at 06:17 PM, Daniela wrote: [ ... ] > Is it possible that the process table is full (I had more than 450 processes > last time I ran top) or I ran out of memory (512M RAM + 1024M swap)? Yes, both things are possible, but FreeBSD should handle running out of resources much more gracefully than locking up. Normally, you'd see "cannot fork -- resource not available" type errors, not a frozen machine. -Chuck From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 3 13:52:00 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DE5B37B401 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 13:52:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 631C743F75 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 13:51:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@ofug.org) Received: by flood.ping.uio.no (Postfix, from userid 2602) id D4AAE530E; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 22:51:57 +0200 (CEST) X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: "Daniela" References: <000501c329ca$963da1e0$0300000a@linkinpark> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 22:51:57 +0200 In-Reply-To: <000501c329ca$963da1e0$0300000a@linkinpark> (dgw@liwest.at's message of "Tue, 3 Jun 2003 14:20:57 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1001 (Gnus v5.10.1) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Server overloaded? Or is it a bug? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 20:52:00 -0000 "Daniela" writes: > The processor doesn't sound busy, I'm curious - what does a busy processor sound like? DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 3 14:38:06 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC54137B401 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 14:38:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp-out.comcast.net (smtp-out.comcast.net [24.153.64.116]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33EC443F93 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 14:38:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mupi@mknet.org) Received: from c-67-161-243-229.client.comcast.net (c-67-161-243-229.client.comcast.net [67.161.243.229]) by mtaout04.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HFX004I9DAHOP@mtaout04.icomcast.net> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 17:35:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 15:35:08 -0600 From: Mike Porter In-reply-to: <1054583721.3edbaba959c81@webmail.ownij.com> To: bigtruck@ownij.com Message-id: <200306031535.15107.mupi@mknet.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: Text/Plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Content-description: clearsigned data User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <1054583721.3edbaba959c81@webmail.ownij.com> cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.8-Stable DummyNet X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 21:38:07 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 02 June 2003 01:55 pm, bigtruck@ownij.com wrote: > Hi. We just opened a gaming center and have chosen to run a FreeBsd box > for our firewall. IPFW is configured at it's very basic running natd > through rl0 and allowing any to any connections from the lan to the outer > world. Natd controls access to the lan. > > We have a 6.0 mb/s ADSL net connection for all the gaming clients to use, > however if a gamer starts downloading a file, that file takes precendence > and causes everyone's pings 'in-game' to sky rocket to unplayable levels. > I have done some reading on DummyNet which is attached at the hip with > IPFW, however I have been unsuccessful in getting it to work properly. > > I have done some research and found this site: > http://info.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ip_dummynet/ > > After reading I became more confused than before. Should I share the link > as a whole to all 64 client machines OR should I set a fixed BW for all > client machines. Are there other websites out there that can help with > this? > > Also if and when I do find a working pipe/queue config do I put it before > the natd via rl0 command or after? Another consideration, from experience: rl is not a very good "inside" nic, at least if running with the old standby 8139 chip. I don't have direct experience with the 82xx family they are using these days, but with my 8139-based card, I could never, under windows, get a single download past 30KBps (but I could open 3 downloads before the performance started to fall off) (this is on a cable modem). Under BSD (4-stable in the days of 4.5 and 4.6) I couldn't get anything past 100Kbps. Using a machine with two realtek's as a gateway/router, I found I was brealy better than dialup on my local machines. Switching to a Netgear NIC (dc driver) vastly improved matters. When set for dc0=outside, rl0=inside, my LAN performance is about the same (indicating a bottleneck in rl0), however, my WAN performance is about 1/3 better (I can consistently get 130KBps+, and frequently exceed 200KBps; once in a while I can even get more than 300KBps, but due to the nature of cable, that is pretty rare.). Putting dc0 on "inside" duty more than doubles the performance of my LAN, without changing any network infrastructure. This tells me the rl8139 at least is optimized for use on asymetric connection, such as DSL or Cable, and is not really (even though it claims to support it) a full-duplex card. Spend a few dollars more, and get a better card, in other words. I guess that doesn't really help with dummynet, but it could explain some of the performance problem... mike -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+3RSRY30jZzkECLcRAo/GAJwJyRZfadU1ISrfluktUN2s/JqinwCfdC1w 9ucO194yP4ccqgLW4eg30Aw= =QTrN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 3 14:43:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC9CD37B401 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 14:43:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.qlogic.net (qlogic.net [66.216.124.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 077E343F3F for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 14:43:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgw@qlogic.net) Received: from dgw.demonio (143.Red-81-34-198.pooles.rima-tde.net [81.34.198.143]) (authenticated bits=0) by www.qlogic.net (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h53LgwpX039212; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 23:43:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from dgw@qlogic.net) From: David Garcia Watkins To: Daniela Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 23:47:49 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.2 References: <000401c329f0$19f0fee0$0a00000a@eps> <200306032217.49730.dgw@liwest.at> In-Reply-To: <200306032217.49730.dgw@liwest.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200306032347.49544.dgw@qlogic.net> cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Server overloaded? Or is it a bug? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 21:43:04 -0000 > > Did you try looking at its console? > > It probably have lots of pretty messages of whats going on.. > > Can't look at the console. It hangs completely. Maybe Ctrl+Alt+F1 brings back the console? David From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 3 14:43:13 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80E1C37B404 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 14:43:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from digitalme.com (pop.digitalme.com [193.97.97.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E971A43FA3 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 14:43:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from OxDD@digitalme.com) Received: from ddhome OxDD@digitalme.com [212.129.99.239]NetWare; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 14:43:08 -0700 Message-ID: <002a01c32a19$829f68e0$0100000a@ddhome> From: "Dmitry Mityugov" To: "Daniela" , "Dag-Erling Smorgrav" References: <000501c329ca$963da1e0$0300000a@linkinpark> Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 01:45:45 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Server overloaded? Or is it a bug? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 21:43:13 -0000 From: "Dag-Erling Smorgrav" To: "Daniela" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 12:51 AM Subject: Re: Server overloaded? Or is it a bug? > "Daniela" writes: > > The processor doesn't sound busy, > > I'm curious - what does a busy processor sound like? Have you ever seen a really hot frying-pan? Dmitry From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 3 14:45:23 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C8B537B401 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 14:45:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx.nsu.ru (mx.nsu.ru [212.192.164.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3A1443F93 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 14:45:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fjoe@iclub.nsu.ru) Received: from mail by mx.nsu.ru with drweb-scanned (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 19NJdV-0007Sh-00; Wed, 04 Jun 2003 04:48:05 +0700 Received: from iclub.nsu.ru ([193.124.215.97] ident=root) by mx.nsu.ru with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 19NJcv-0007Kf-00; Wed, 04 Jun 2003 04:47:29 +0700 Received: from iclub.nsu.ru (fjoe@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by iclub.nsu.ru (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h53Lhv5Q011625; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 04:43:58 +0700 (NSS) (envelope-from fjoe@iclub.nsu.ru) Received: (from fjoe@localhost) by iclub.nsu.ru (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h53Lhv0j011624; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 04:43:57 +0700 (NSS) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 04:43:57 +0700 From: Max Khon To: Mike Porter Message-ID: <20030603214357.GA11462@iclub.nsu.ru> References: <1054583721.3edbaba959c81@webmail.ownij.com> <200306031535.15107.mupi@mknet.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200306031535.15107.mupi@mknet.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Envelope-To: mupi@mknet.org, bigtruck@ownij.com, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Bogosity: No, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000001, version=0.11.1.4 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-134.6 required=5.0 tests=BOGOFILTER_TEST_PASS,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,QUOTE_TWICE_1,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_MUTT,USER_IN_WHITELIST version=2.50 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) cc: bigtruck@ownij.com cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.8-Stable DummyNet X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 21:45:23 -0000 hi, there! On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 03:35:08PM -0600, Mike Porter wrote: > > Hi. We just opened a gaming center and have chosen to run a FreeBsd box > > for our firewall. IPFW is configured at it's very basic running natd > > through rl0 and allowing any to any connections from the lan to the outer > > world. Natd controls access to the lan. > > > > We have a 6.0 mb/s ADSL net connection for all the gaming clients to use, > > however if a gamer starts downloading a file, that file takes precendence > > and causes everyone's pings 'in-game' to sky rocket to unplayable levels. > > I have done some reading on DummyNet which is attached at the hip with > > IPFW, however I have been unsuccessful in getting it to work properly. > > > > I have done some research and found this site: > > http://info.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ip_dummynet/ > > > > After reading I became more confused than before. Should I share the link > > as a whole to all 64 client machines OR should I set a fixed BW for all > > client machines. Are there other websites out there that can help with > > this? > > > > Also if and when I do find a working pipe/queue config do I put it before > > the natd via rl0 command or after? > > Another consideration, from experience: rl is not a very good "inside" nic, > at least if running with the old standby 8139 chip. I don't have direct > experience with the 82xx family they are using these days, but with my > 8139-based card, I could never, under windows, get a single download past > 30KBps (but I could open 3 downloads before the performance started to fall > off) (this is on a cable modem). Under BSD (4-stable in the days of 4.5 and > 4.6) I couldn't get anything past 100Kbps. Using a machine with two > realtek's as a gateway/router, I found I was brealy better than dialup on my > local machines. Switching to a Netgear NIC (dc driver) vastly improved > matters. When set for dc0=outside, rl0=inside, my LAN performance is about > the same (indicating a bottleneck in rl0), however, my WAN performance is > about 1/3 better (I can consistently get 130KBps+, and frequently exceed > 200KBps; once in a while I can even get more than 300KBps, but due to the > nature of cable, that is pretty rare.). Putting dc0 on "inside" duty more > than doubles the performance of my LAN, without changing any network > infrastructure. This tells me the rl8139 at least is optimized for use on > asymetric connection, such as DSL or Cable, and is not really (even though it > claims to support it) a full-duplex card. Spend a few dollars more, and get > a better card, in other words. I have performance problems with these cards under win2000 (probably poorly written driver) but under FreeBSD I get 10Mb/s (megabytes/s) via NFS between two FreeBSD machines (two 8139c cards, crossover). /fjoe From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 3 14:55:24 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1265A37B401 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 14:55:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from s-smtp-osl-01.bluecom.no (s-smtp-osl-01.bluecom.no [62.101.193.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A8F043F3F for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 14:55:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from erik@pentadon.com) Received: from eps (tromso-dhcp-234-175.bluecom.no [62.101.234.175]) by s-smtp-osl-01.bluecom.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7D16163639; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 23:55:20 +0200 (CEST) From: "Erik Paulsen Skaalerud" To: "'Daniela'" , Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 23:55:30 +0200 Message-ID: <001c01c32a1a$da2092f0$0a00000a@eps> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 In-Reply-To: <200306032217.49730.dgw@liwest.at> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: RE: Server overloaded? Or is it a bug? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 21:55:24 -0000 > Thanks for your reply. You're welcome :) > > > My server doesn't respond any more. Everything crashed. > > > How can I find out if this is a bug or it is simply overloaded? > > > > Did you try looking at its console? > > It probably have lots of pretty messages of whats going on.. > > Can't look at the console. It hangs completely. Hm. If its running X on the console, have you tried forcing it to a vty? (ie, alt+f2 or similar). If that doesnt work, I really dont know what to say but to reboot it and see if you are lucky, -maybe- "dmesg -a" have some errors in it from the failure. Or maybe /var/log/messages. It depends on what the failure was really. > > > I don't have much running, just KDE with about 10 > programs on each > > > of the 16 desktops, and a few background processes. This > seems much, > > > but I often have much more stuff running, and it is not even slow. > > > > > > It does respond when I ping it, but won't let me in over SSH. The > > > processor doesn't sound busy, so I suspect that the scheduler has > > > gone away, or there is some bug in the kernel, or some > system table > > > is too small. > > > > Hm. What kind of sound does a busy CPU make? :-) > > > > > How do I find out what the problem is? (Never had any > > > before.) > > > > Yeah, attach a console and find out whats going on. > > How can I do that? > It doesn't respond to ctrl+alt+backspace and ctrl+alt+del, I > can still move > the mouse, but I can't click anything. See above >(I known I shouldn't run X11 on a server.) You're right, the console of a server should not run X11 :( If you insist on running X11 on the console, maybe you should try to always keep an xterm open with console messages? (see /etc/syslog.conf) > > > FreeBSD has always managed the highest loads, even > > > on normal PC hardware. Is it possible to bring the server back > > > without rebooting? I would lose a lot of unsaved data if I had to > > > reboot. I'm running 4.8-STABLE. > > > > When a server responds to ping, but ssh times out etc it > often relates > > to hdd problems. Atleast in my experiences it has been so > (dead disk). > > And if it is hdd problems, and FreeBSD couldnt get the disk > to wake up > > again, you probably already have lost data. > > That could be the cause. One minute before the crash I could > still enter shell > builtin commands, but external commands did just nothing. > > Is it possible that the process table is full (I had more > than 450 processes > last time I ran top) or I ran out of memory (512M RAM + 1024M swap)? Well. Lets say that all the users use the same application. And all the users got the same bug with the application, wich made it forkbomb and consume large amounts of memory. 450 user-procs on the runaway could make this happen, but its very unlikely. FreeBSD is good at locking down things like this. But then again, if you run out of swap you're busted. I advise you to reboot the server (the unsaved data is probably lost a long time ago). And this time, keep an eye on it :) Erik. > > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > > Daniela From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 3 16:35:58 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32C9E37B401 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 16:35:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from franky.speednet.com.au (franky.speednet.com.au [203.57.65.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0020343F93 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 16:35:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andyf@speednet.com.au) Received: from hewey.af.speednet.com.au (hewey.af.speednet.com.au [203.38.96.242])h53NZsxe070425; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 09:35:55 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from andyf@speednet.com.au) Received: from hewey.af.speednet.com.au (hewey.af.speednet.com.au [203.38.96.242])h53NZrUN072774; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 09:35:54 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from andyf@speednet.com.au) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 09:35:53 +1000 (EST) From: Andy Farkas X-X-Sender: andyf@hewey.af.speednet.com.au To: Gerhard Sittig In-Reply-To: <20030603161553.W26888@shell.gsinet.sittig.org> Message-ID: <20030604082230.H72330-100000@hewey.af.speednet.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "disable ata" in kernel configuration not working? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 23:35:58 -0000 On Tue, 3 Jun 2003, Gerhard Sittig wrote: > Your kernel config has ata entries for ISA controllers. Remove > them and your PCI adapter should become ata0 and the disk should > become ad0. (If this is what you wanted, I couldn't get it from > your last message and did not follow the thread too closely.) How would I remove ISA ata controllers? I am running FreeBSD-5.1 so my config looks like this: $ grep -i ata /sys/i386/conf/TEAM2 # ATA and ATAPI devices device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives #device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives #device atapist # ATAPI tape drives options ATA_STATIC_ID #Static device numbering > > ... > > atapci0: > > port 0xd400-0xd41f,0xd804-0xd807,0xe000-0xe007,0xe404-0xe407,0xe800-0xe807 > > irq 14 at device 5.0 on pci0 > > ata2: at 0xe800 on atapci0 > > ata3: at 0xe000 on atapci0 > > [ snip ] > > ... > > ata0 at port 0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa0 > > ata1 at port 0x376,0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa0 > > ... > > ad4: 8223MB [16708/16/63] at ata2-master UDMA33 > > Do you see the "ata0 ... on isa0" connection/binding? No. Like I said, I only editted out irrelevent stuff: $ grep -i ata /var/run/dmesg.boot atapci0: port 0xd400-0xd41f,0xd804-0xd807,0xe000-0xe007,0xe404-0xe407,0xe800-0xe807 irq 14 at device 5.0 on pci0 ata2: at 0xe800 on atapci0 ata3: at 0xe000 on atapci0 ata0 at port 0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa0 ata1 at port 0x376,0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa0 ad4: 8223MB [16708/16/63] at ata2-master UDMA33 > Even if > there is no hardware to handle, the logical number is allocated. > So the first auto recognised (i.e. additional) controller cannot > live there, too. This is very similar to the "Why does my (one > and only) NE2K PCMCIA clone show up as ed1?" question, while > people have ed0 bound to an (absent) ISA card in their config > as it is in GENERIC. Well, comming up as ed1 makes sense for a removable device, and especially seeing as how (fbsd-4.x) GENERIC specifically allocates ed0. Reserving ata0 and ata1 for hardware that is there makes sense. Reserving them when there is no hardware, and no specific allocation, doesn't. But the main problem is that the kernel thinks that there are devices on ata0 and ata1 when there are clearly not: $ vmstat -i interrupt total rate stray irq7 1 0 ahc0 irq11 14 0 dc0 irq10 31456 0 ata0 irq14 215722 0 <-- should be ata2 ata1 irq15 9656 0 <-- should be ahc1 atkbd0 irq1 2 0 fdc0 irq6 4 0 clk irq0 60125688 99 rtc irq8 76964395 128 At least my devices work at irqs 14 & 15. I feel sorry for Vladislav. -- :{ andyf@speednet.com.au Andy Farkas System Administrator Speednet Communications http://www.speednet.com.au/ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 3 20:03:34 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80F7437B401 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 20:03:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tomts14-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts14-srv.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D64243FAF for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 20:03:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from beon@sympatico.ca) Received: from sympatico.ca ([64.230.3.147]) by tomts14-srv.bellnexxia.net ESMTP <20030604030332.WZUX11313.tomts14-srv.bellnexxia.net@sympatico.ca>; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 23:03:32 -0400 Message-ID: <3EDD6184.5070501@sympatico.ca> Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 23:03:32 -0400 From: beon@sympatico.ca User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030312 X-Accept-Language: en-ca, en-us, en, ja, fr-ca, fr-fr, fr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gregory Bond References: <20030603190055.430F537B401@hub.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20030603190055.430F537B401@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hints on KVM switches w/ X X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 03:03:34 -0000 Hi, Years ago, I encountered a problem with my XFree86, KVM and PS/2 mouse where the cursor would jump to the side of the screen and only wiggle when I moved the mouse. I eventually found a solution searching for messages like psmintr: out of sync (0000 != 0008) based on what I saw in my syslog. This message looks familiar: I think the solution I used was setting a bit in my kernel's psm config to not sync and rebuilding. YMMV Excuse me if this has already been answered. I only get the digest version. cheers Ken On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 04:07:00PM +1000, Gregory Bond wrote: > Has anyone got hints on using KVM switches with XFree86? I'm using a wheel > mouse and moused, but something gets out of whack when I switch away then back > to X. Next time I touch the mouse, all sorts of weird things happen for a > fraction of a second, then the mouse starts working OK. This is annoying and > dangerous because it often winds up pasting random stuff into xterms..... > > Are there any hints for making this less of a problem? From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 3 20:44:55 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A90FB37B401 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 20:44:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from solomon.four10.com (solomon.four10.com [66.252.192.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 294C243F93 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 20:44:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tech@four10.com) Received: (qmail 9546 invoked from network); 4 Jun 2003 03:44:36 -0000 Received: from c-67-162-142-219.client.comcast.net (HELO blaq) (67.162.142.219) by solomon.four10.com with SMTP; 4 Jun 2003 03:44:36 -0000 Message-ID: <021201c32a4b$a502be00$db8ea243@blaq> From: "Onyi C. Ejiasa" To: Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 21:44:44 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Official Mirror X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Onyi C. Ejiasa" List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 03:44:55 -0000 Hello, Can someone please relay instructions for becoming an Official mirror? = Thanks! ---------------------------------------------------------------- (T)archive.com 100Mbps Open Source Mirror ---------------------------------------------------------------- URL Location: www.tarchive.com Physical Location: Denver, CO - USA Connection: 100mbps Fibre Connection - Cogent Communications ---------------------------------------------------------------- Provided by: Four10.com Managed by: Onyi C. Ejiasa ---------------------------------------------------------------- Contact Info: tech@four10.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 3 20:59:15 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4E0837B401 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 20:59:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B5D343F75 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 20:59:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (IDENT:brdavis@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h543xCvN023025; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 20:59:12 -0700 Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.12.9/8.12.3/Submit) id h543xCVD023024; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 20:59:12 -0700 Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 20:59:12 -0700 From: Brooks Davis To: "Onyi C. Ejiasa" Message-ID: <20030604035912.GA18115@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> References: <021201c32a4b$a502be00$db8ea243@blaq> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <021201c32a4b$a502be00$db8ea243@blaq> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) on odin.ac.hmc.edu cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Official Mirror X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 03:59:16 -0000 --zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 09:44:44PM -0600, Onyi C. Ejiasa wrote: > Hello, >=20 > Can someone please relay instructions for becoming an Official mirror? Th= anks! Here you go: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/hubs/index.html -- Brooks --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD4DBQE+3W6PXY6L6fI4GtQRAsyqAJitFOxqjodH3hilVUZ3iH1EfCVtAJ0acuYT hJpaVLlaGzOgd0LjHdA/FA== =sPrE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 3 21:35:18 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69D1A37B401 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 21:35:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xyzzy.wireless.snsonline.net (dhcp.looksmart.com.au [210.9.52.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0A6543F85 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 21:35:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msergeant@snsonline.net) Received: from xyzzy.wireless.snsonline.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h544ZCuZ022970 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 14:35:13 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from msergeant@snsonline.net) Received: (from sarge@localhost)h544ZA84022969 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 04:35:10 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: xyzzy.wireless.snsonline.net: sarge set sender to msergeant@snsonline.net using -f From: Mark Sergeant To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: SNSOnline Technical Services Message-Id: <1054701309.1151.6.camel@xyzzy.wireless.snsonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.3.92 (Preview Release) Date: 04 Jun 2003 04:35:10 +0000 Subject: Problem with HTTP traffic (very slow) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 04:35:18 -0000 I have two machines running 4.8-RELEASE ... both sitting on the same switch, same hardware, same everything really. One gets 200k/s using wget / curl / w3m to a http address the other gets 6k/s to the same address. On the slow http machine I get 200k/s via scp or ftp to the same address it's just web traffic that is slow (note web traffic to all other locations is 4 - 6k/s as well). I've recompiled curl, w3m, wget and all their dependancies and still no luck so I can only assume something is broken with http traffic on this machine. The only difference between these two machines is one is an nfs server and the other an nfs client to that machine. Has anyone experienced this before / got any pointers on where I should look, which deity I should pray to etc. Cheers, -- Mark Sergeant SNSOnline Technical Services From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 3 22:21:58 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1375137B401 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 22:21:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dn.farlep.net (ns.dn.farlep.net [213.130.10.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F1B043F93 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 22:21:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from admin@dru.dn.ua) Received: from dru.dn.ua (dru.dn.ua [195.5.20.167])h545K77D024433 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 08:20:09 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from admin@localhost) by dru.dn.ua (8.12.9/8.12.9) id h545JPj3090189; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 08:19:25 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from admin) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 08:19:25 +0300 From: "Vladislav V. Zhuk" To: Andy Farkas Message-ID: <20030604051925.GA88768@dru.dn.ua> References: <20030603161553.W26888@shell.gsinet.sittig.org> <20030604082230.H72330-100000@hewey.af.speednet.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030604082230.H72330-100000@hewey.af.speednet.com.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "disable ata" in kernel configuration not working? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 05:21:58 -0000 On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 09:35:53AM +1000, Andy Farkas wrote: > On Tue, 3 Jun 2003, Gerhard Sittig wrote: > > > Your kernel config has ata entries for ISA controllers. Remove > > them and your PCI adapter should become ata0 and the disk should > > become ad0. (If this is what you wanted, I couldn't get it from > > your last message and did not follow the thread too closely.) Mr. Gerhard Sittig, you don't carefully read begin of this tread. BUGs is BUGs. To fix bugs anybody must correct source code of ATA driver. Neither voodoo spell nor dancing around box can't to force work properly wrong code. > > How would I remove ISA ata controllers? I am running FreeBSD-5.1 so my > config looks like this: > > $ grep -i ata /sys/i386/conf/TEAM2 > # ATA and ATAPI devices > device ata > device atadisk # ATA disk drives > device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives > #device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives > #device atapist # ATAPI tape drives > options ATA_STATIC_ID #Static device numbering I have some config... [ ... ] > ata0 irq14 215722 0 <-- should be ata2 > ata1 irq15 9656 0 <-- should be ahc1 > > At least my devices work at irqs 14 & 15. I'm not lucky or FreeBSD 4.8 can't share this irqs or my hardware (non ATA) incompatible whith bugs of new ATA driver, but my box don't work if any device use this irqs. Old ATA driver corectly probed hardware and if ATA channel is absent - driver don't touch corresponding irq. Bugs must be fixed. Who can make this?? -- Vladislav V. Zhuk (06267)3-60-03 admin@dru.dn.ua 2:465/197@FidoNet.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 4 06:04:56 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40E2437B401 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 06:04:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 856A343F3F for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 06:04:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h54D3kOn043936; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 09:03:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (robert@localhost)h54D3krj043933; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 09:03:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 09:03:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: Mark Sergeant In-Reply-To: <1054701309.1151.6.camel@xyzzy.wireless.snsonline.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with HTTP traffic (very slow) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 13:04:56 -0000 On 4 Jun 2003, Mark Sergeant wrote: > I have two machines running 4.8-RELEASE ... both sitting on the same > switch, same hardware, same everything really. > > One gets 200k/s using wget / curl / w3m to a http address the other gets > 6k/s to the same address. On the slow http machine I get 200k/s via scp > or ftp to the same address it's just web traffic that is slow (note web > traffic to all other locations is 4 - 6k/s as well). I've recompiled > curl, w3m, wget and all their dependancies and still no luck so I can > only assume something is broken with http traffic on this machine. > > The only difference between these two machines is one is an nfs server > and the other an nfs client to that machine. > > Has anyone experienced this before / got any pointers on where I should > look, which deity I should pray to etc. Where are wget/curl/w3m/... fetching their files to? Into NFS, or a local file system? Does it differ for the two machines? Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Projects robert@fledge.watson.org Network Associates Laboratories From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 4 06:16:50 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A83E137B401 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 06:16:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFB0543F3F for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 06:16:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h54DFdOn046424; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 09:15:39 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (robert@localhost)h54DFYXg046419; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 09:15:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 09:15:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: Daniela In-Reply-To: <200306032217.49730.dgw@liwest.at> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Server overloaded? Or is it a bug? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 13:16:51 -0000 On Tue, 3 Jun 2003, Daniela wrote: > > > My server doesn't respond any more. Everything crashed. > > > How can I find out if this is a bug or it is simply overloaded? > > > > Did you try looking at its console? > > It probably have lots of pretty messages of whats going on.. > > Can't look at the console. It hangs completely. When X wedges, even if the kernel is still alive, it can be hard to regain control of the console. Here are some things you might try, though: (1) Try pinging the machine from another machine on the LAN/WAN. If it responds to pings, then the kernel is at least a bit alive. You might try logging in and see if the X server process is doing anything particularly unusual. If you can ping but not build a TCP connection, it could be part of the kernel is starved of resources -- too many sockets open, or the like. If you can build a TCP connection but not get an SSH banner back from the server, then maybe you're out of processes and sshd can't fork. If you can get partway through the banner but hang later, that might be the result of a file system deadlock of some sort. If you can log in, cool, it's probably an X problem and not strictly a FreeBSD problem. (2) Try setting up a serial console -- there should be documentation for this in the handbook, but the easy steps are: (1) hook up the first serial port to a serial port on another system. Set: console="comconsole" in /boot/loader.conf, and enable the ttyd0 line in /etc/ttys to permit login on the console. Point your terminal program on the second machine at the serial port using 9600bps (the default for cu/tip/, so I usually just type in "tip com1"). Make sure you see the kernel probe messages, get a login prompt, etc. When the machine appears to wedge, see if you have any interesting output on the serial console -- unusual errors, panic messages, etc. See if you can log in. This will help clarify the problem a bit. If it's a panic or hang, the next steps are generally to rebuild your kernel with debugging symbols and DDB, see if you can get stack traces etc (documented in the handbook). Having a serial console set up makes this a *lot* easier, since you can use the other machine to copy/paste debugging information rather than trying to hand-transcribe, get a system core (difficult if system is wedged in X), etc. Hope this helps. Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Projects robert@fledge.watson.org Network Associates Laboratories From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 4 06:45:40 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA99F37B405 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 06:45:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bellana.nc-rj.rnp.br (bellana.nc-rj.rnp.br [200.17.63.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4257B43F75 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 06:45:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@rnp.br) Received: (qmail 54912 invoked by uid 0); 4 Jun 2003 13:45:34 -0000 Received: from kira.nc-rj.rnp.br (200.17.63.90) by 0 with SMTP; 4 Jun 2003 13:45:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 43651 invoked by uid 0); 4 Jun 2003 13:45:34 -0000 Received: from chiclete.nc-rj.rnp.br (HELO chiclete) (200.17.63.13) by 0 with SMTP; 4 Jun 2003 13:45:34 -0000 Message-ID: <001201c32a9f$925cfc80$0d3f11c8@ncrj.rnp.br> From: "Alex Soares de Moura" To: References: <1054701309.1151.6.camel@xyzzy.wireless.snsonline.net> Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 10:45:33 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: Re: Problem with HTTP traffic (very slow) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 13:45:41 -0000 Hello, Have noticed if there's any inconsistent full-duplex/half-duplex setting on nics and switch ports? See if the settings are the same on the 2 boxes. Recently we've been tottaly confused about vey new Dell boxes pluggled into Dell siwtches experiencing *very* poor performance running FBSD-4.{7,8}-STABLE and after lots of struggle we've solved the problem setting their nics to 'auto' instead of the original fixed setting 100baseTX Full-duplex. Go figure... Best regards, Alex ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Sergeant" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 1:35 AM Subject: Problem with HTTP traffic (very slow) > I have two machines running 4.8-RELEASE ... both sitting on the same > switch, same hardware, same everything really. > > One gets 200k/s using wget / curl / w3m to a http address the other gets > 6k/s to the same address. On the slow http machine I get 200k/s via scp > or ftp to the same address it's just web traffic that is slow (note web > traffic to all other locations is 4 - 6k/s as well). I've recompiled > curl, w3m, wget and all their dependancies and still no luck so I can > only assume something is broken with http traffic on this machine. > > The only difference between these two machines is one is an nfs server > and the other an nfs client to that machine. > > Has anyone experienced this before / got any pointers on where I should > look, which deity I should pray to etc. > > Cheers, > > -- > Mark Sergeant > SNSOnline Technical Services > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 4 06:55:43 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8945C37B401 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 06:55:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xyzzy.wireless.snsonline.net (dhcp.looksmart.com.au [210.9.52.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50B3443F3F for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 06:55:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msergeant@snsonline.net) Received: from xyzzy.wireless.snsonline.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h54DteuZ079123; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 23:55:40 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from msergeant@snsonline.net) Received: (from sarge@localhost)h54DtZQv078897; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 13:55:35 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: xyzzy.wireless.snsonline.net: sarge set sender to msergeant@snsonline.net using -f From: Mark Sergeant To: Alex Soares de Moura In-Reply-To: <001201c32a9f$925cfc80$0d3f11c8@ncrj.rnp.br> References: <1054701309.1151.6.camel@xyzzy.wireless.snsonline.net> <001201c32a9f$925cfc80$0d3f11c8@ncrj.rnp.br> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: SNSOnline Technical Services Message-Id: <1054734934.34234.2.camel@xyzzy.wireless.snsonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.3.92 (Preview Release) Date: 04 Jun 2003 13:55:35 +0000 cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with HTTP traffic (very slow) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 13:55:43 -0000 Problem solved. It ended up being a cisco router with a bad gbic module. Cheers, Mark On Wed, 2003-06-04 at 13:45, Alex Soares de Moura wrote: > Hello, > > Have noticed if there's any inconsistent full-duplex/half-duplex setting on > nics > and switch ports? See if the settings are the same on the 2 boxes. > > Recently we've been tottaly confused about vey new Dell boxes pluggled into > Dell siwtches experiencing *very* poor performance running > FBSD-4.{7,8}-STABLE > and after lots of struggle we've solved the problem setting their nics to > 'auto' > instead of the original fixed setting 100baseTX Full-duplex. Go figure... > > Best regards, > > Alex > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Sergeant" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 1:35 AM > Subject: Problem with HTTP traffic (very slow) > > > > I have two machines running 4.8-RELEASE ... both sitting on the same > > switch, same hardware, same everything really. > > > > One gets 200k/s using wget / curl / w3m to a http address the other gets > > 6k/s to the same address. On the slow http machine I get 200k/s via scp > > or ftp to the same address it's just web traffic that is slow (note web > > traffic to all other locations is 4 - 6k/s as well). I've recompiled > > curl, w3m, wget and all their dependancies and still no luck so I can > > only assume something is broken with http traffic on this machine. > > > > The only difference between these two machines is one is an nfs server > > and the other an nfs client to that machine. > > > > Has anyone experienced this before / got any pointers on where I should > > look, which deity I should pray to etc. > > > > Cheers, > > > > -- > > Mark Sergeant > > SNSOnline Technical Services > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Mark Sergeant SNSOnline Technical Services From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 4 07:10:39 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AA1637B401 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 07:10:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13D4B43FB1 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 07:10:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from crist.clark@attbi.com) Received: from blossom.cjclark.org (12-234-159-107.client.attbi.com[12.234.159.107]) by attbi.com (sccrmhc01) with ESMTP id <2003060414103300100hs7kje>; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 14:10:33 +0000 Received: from blossom.cjclark.org (localhost. [127.0.0.1]) by blossom.cjclark.org (8.12.8p1/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h54EAVki072697; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 07:10:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from crist.clark@attbi.com) Received: (from cjc@localhost) by blossom.cjclark.org (8.12.8p1/8.12.8/Submit) id h54EALuc072696; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 07:10:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: blossom.cjclark.org: cjc set sender to crist.clark@attbi.com using -f Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 07:10:21 -0700 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: "Giovanni P. Tirloni" Message-ID: <20030604141021.GA83754@blossom.cjclark.org> References: <20030601071255.GC123@pixies.tirloni.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030601071255.GC123@pixies.tirloni.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-URL: http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Very weird network behaviour with 4.7-RELEASE-p10 (large) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Crist J. Clark" List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 14:10:39 -0000 On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 04:12:55AM -0300, Giovanni P. Tirloni wrote: > Hi, > > I have been doing some tests using hping2 and TCP SYN > pings targeting local and remote hosts from two FreeBSD > 4.7-RELEASE-p10 and one Linux 2.4.18 host. > > The three machines have the same hardware configuration > and have been running for 6 months now. The average load > isnt too high (usually 0.01 to 0.15) on the FreeBSD machines. > > Here is the output from hping2 (excuse me the line wrap), > > root:~# hping -S -p 80 -c 6 www.freebsd.org > HPING www.freebsd.org (fxp0 216.136.204.117): S set, 40 headers + 0 data bytes > len=46 ip=216.136.204.117 ttl=50 DF id=20997 sport=80 flags=SA seq=0 win=57344 rtt=212.6 ms > len=46 ip=216.136.204.117 ttl=50 DF id=21140 sport=80 flags=SA seq=1 win=57344 rtt=212.3 ms > len=46 ip=216.136.204.117 ttl=50 DF id=21301 sport=80 flags=SA seq=2 win=57344 rtt=212.3 ms > DUP! len=46 ip=216.136.204.117 ttl=50 DF id=21494 sport=80 flags=SA seq=0 win=57344 rtt=3207.3 ms > len=46 ip=216.136.204.117 ttl=50 DF id=21498 sport=80 flags=SA seq=3 win=57344 rtt=212.3 ms > DUP! len=46 ip=216.136.204.117 ttl=50 DF id=21650 sport=80 flags=SA seq=1 win=57344 rtt=3209.4 ms > > --- www.freebsd.org hping statistic --- > 5 packets tramitted, 6 packets received, -20% packet loss > round-trip min/avg/max = 212.3/1211.0/3209.4 ms [snip] > Any help is welcome and sorry if this email doesn't have all the > information needed to solve this problem. I'll be happy to provide > more details and do more tests if needed. Errr... What problem? The hping2 and tcpdump output all look normal. You send a SYN to a remote host, it keeps sending SYN-ACKs back trying to establish the connection. You get long "RTTs" due to the time elapsed between the initial SYN and the continuing responses. That RTT has nothing to do with how fast a packet crosses the network. -- Crist J. Clark | cjclark@alum.mit.edu | cjclark@jhu.edu http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ | cjc@freebsd.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 4 07:43:33 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AE2C37B401 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 07:43:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from postal1.es.net (postal1.es.net [198.128.3.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B249C43FA3 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 07:43:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net ([198.128.4.29]) by postal1.es.net (Postal Node 1) with ESMTP id MUA74016 for ; Wed, 04 Jun 2003 07:43:31 -0700 Received: from ptavv (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id 807B45D08 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 07:43:31 -0700 (PDT) To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 07:43:31 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20030604144331.807B45D08@ptavv.es.net> Subject: Problem with large numbers of bpf devices X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 14:43:34 -0000 A STABLE (not updated since 12/13/02) system shows very strange behavior for devices with a minor mode greater than 256. tcpdump does not work reliably and ls is, uh, "strange", using hex for the minor mode. crw------- 1 root wheel 23, 252 Apr 11 14:29 bpf252 crw------- 1 root wheel 23, 253 Apr 11 14:29 bpf253 crw------- 1 root wheel 23, 254 Apr 11 14:29 bpf254 crw------- 1 root wheel 23, 255 Apr 11 14:29 bpf255 crw------- 1 root wheel 23, 0x00010000 Apr 11 14:29 bpf256 crw------- 1 root wheel 23, 0x00010001 Apr 11 14:29 bpf257 crw------- 1 root wheel 23, 0x00010002 Apr 11 14:29 bpf258 crw------- 1 root wheel 23, 0x00010003 Apr 11 14:29 bpf259 crw------- 1 root wheel 23, 26 Apr 11 14:29 bpf26 crw------- 1 root wheel 23, 0x00010004 Apr 11 14:29 bpf260 crw------- 1 root wheel 23, 0x00010005 Apr 11 14:29 bpf261 crw------- 1 root wheel 23, 0x00010006 Apr 11 14:29 bpf262 crw------- 1 root wheel 23, 0x00010007 Apr 11 14:29 bpf263 crw------- 1 root wheel 23, 0x00010008 Apr 11 14:29 bpf264 The minor mode is reported as "0xnnnnnnnn" on all device numbers beyond 256. Is this problem with ls(1) only, or is there a one byte limit built in somewhere? Thanks, R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 4 09:17:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44FF337B401 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 09:17:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brookes.ac.uk (csmail.brookes.ac.uk [161.73.1.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F27A543FA3 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 09:17:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robin@isometry.net) Received: from isometry.net (ta56a20a.brookes.ac.uk [161.73.140.236]) by brookes.ac.uk (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h54GHDa8009435 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 17:17:14 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <3EDE1B6A.6050804@isometry.net> Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 17:16:42 +0100 From: Robin Breathe User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4b) Gecko/20030603 Thunderbird/0.1a X-Accept-Language: en-gb, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: bge drivers does not work for 3COM 3C996-SX / 3C996B-T X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 16:17:20 -0000 I'm experiencing similar problems with a 3C996-T under 4.8-REL. In particular, connecting a 4.8-REL machine to a 5.1-REL machine leads to some interesting situations: I can do simple pings across the link, but ssh fails, and heavy pings crash the 4.8 machine. Similarly changing the interface configuration with ifconfig tends to crash the 4.8 machine (mtu, link0, up/down, etc). The behaviour is somewhat hard to diagnose, since there's no panic - just a hard lock. The 4.8-R machine: $ uname -a FreeBSD quadric.dsl.isometry.net 4.8-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE #0: Sun Apr 6 19:46:37 UTC 2003 root@quadric.dsl.isometry.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/QUADRIC i386 $ ifconfig bge0 bge0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 options=3 inet 192.168.108.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.108.255 inet6 fe80::204:76ff:fe3b:6baf%bge0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 ether 00:04:76:3b:6b:af media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTX ) status: active The 5.1-R machine: $ uname -a FreeBSD twiddle.dsl.isometry.net 5.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE #0: Wed Jun 4 08:23:22 UTC 2003 root@twiddle.dsl.isometry.net:/var/obj/var/cvs/RELENG_5/src/sys/TWIDDLE i386 $ ifconfig bge0 bge0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 options=1b inet 192.168.108.2 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.108.255 inet6 fe80::204:76ff:fe3b:62e3%bge0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 ether 00:04:76:3b:62:e3 media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTX ) status: active On both machines, the line "bge0: gigabit link up" comes up very regularly on the console. I've had the 4.8-R machine talking happily to the (now) 5.1-R machine running Windows 2000, though also with the "bge0: gigabit link up" messages. Anything else I can provide to help debug? - Robin Fabien THOMAS wrote the following on 16/05/2002 13:03: > I've some problems with bge driver with 3COM 3C996-SX fiber card and > 3C996B-T copper card under -stable: > > The fiber card is detected correctly but the link does not go up (i've > tested the same card between two Win2K and it works well). > > The copper card is detected but the link goes up/down and sometimes lock the > machine (reboot is needed to restart) when i start a 'ping -i0 -q'. > > Does someone experienced the same problems ? > > for the missing splx: i think i've found a new one in bge_init: > > static void > bge_init(xsc) > void *xsc; > { > struct bge_softc *sc = xsc; > struct ifnet *ifp; > u_int16_t *m; > int s; > > s = splimp(); > > ifp = &sc->arpcom.ac_if; > > if (ifp->if_flags & IFF_RUNNING) > --> missing splx ? > return; > > > Fabien From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 4 10:14:02 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A09237B401 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 10:14:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dns.comrax.com (dns.comrax.com [194.90.246.124]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4037F43FF3 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 10:14:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from noor@comrax.com) Received: from noor (mail.comrax.com [194.90.246.126]) by dns.comrax.com (Postfix) with SMTP id D45E372541 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 20:13:59 +0300 (IDT) From: "Noor Dawod" To: "FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List" Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 20:13:24 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1255" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4925.2800 Importance: Normal Subject: Sudden and unexplained reboots X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 17:14:02 -0000 Hello, I'm having a problem in one of the FreeBSD boxes that I manage. All of a sudden, and for no particular reason, the machine just reboots abruptly. When it loads up again, I cannot see an indication that there's anything wrong in the configuration. By the way, the machine is running like this for few months, and no changes were made lately. Machine has 2GB RAM, RAID-5 disk array and a Xeon 933Mhz CPU. There's enough space on disk and more free RAM to drive 5 desktop computers. Anyone got an idea how to debug the problem? and better, how to resolve and fix it? Thanks in advance. /Noor From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 4 10:24:28 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CC4D37B404 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 10:24:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sentry.24cl.com (174.113.sn.ct.dsl.thebiz.net [216.238.113.174]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C38143F3F for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 10:24:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zlists@mgm51.com) Received: from ntmm (unknown [63.119.50.193]) by sentry.24cl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4965629437 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 13:24:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <200306041324210419.049BB10D@sentry.24cl.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.30.00.00 (1) Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 13:24:21 -0400 From: "MikeM" To: "FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Re: Sudden and unexplained reboots X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 17:24:28 -0000 On 6/4/03 at 8:13 PM Noor Dawod wrote: |Hello, | |I'm having a problem in one of the FreeBSD boxes that I manage. All of a |sudden, and for no particular reason, the machine just reboots abruptly. |When it loads up again, I cannot see an indication that there's anything |wrong in the configuration. | |By the way, the machine is running like this for few months, and no |changes were made lately. Machine has 2GB RAM, RAID-5 disk array and a |Xeon 933Mhz CPU. There's enough space on disk and more free RAM to drive |5 desktop computers. | |Anyone got an idea how to debug the problem? and better, how to resolve |and fix it? ============= My first guesses would be power or hardware problems. >> the machine is running like this for few months Like what? rebooting repeatedly? From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 4 10:28:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FC2937B401 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 10:28:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dns.comrax.com (dns.comrax.com [194.90.246.124]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98F1843F85 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 10:28:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from noor@comrax.com) Received: from noor (mail.comrax.com [194.90.246.126]) by dns.comrax.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 1E12972538 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 20:28:02 +0300 (IDT) From: "Noor Dawod" To: "FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List" Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 20:27:26 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <200306041324210419.049BB10D@sentry.24cl.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4925.2800 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Sudden and unexplained reboots X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 17:28:04 -0000 | | >> the machine is running like this for few months | | Like what? rebooting repeatedly? | No, working flawlessly with no problem at all. The problem started only today... Noor From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 4 10:32:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9CAF37B401 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 10:32:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from angelica.unixdaemons.com (angelica.unixdaemons.com [209.148.64.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B56043F85 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 10:32:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmilekic@unixdaemons.com) Received: from angelica.unixdaemons.com (bmilekic@localhost.unixdaemons.com [127.0.0.1])h54HWmZn077935; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 13:32:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from bmilekic@localhost) by angelica.unixdaemons.com (8.12.9/8.12.1/Submit) id h54HWluE077933; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 13:32:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bmilekic@unixdaemons.com) X-Authentication-Warning: angelica.unixdaemons.com: bmilekic set sender to bmilekic@unixdaemons.com using -f Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 13:32:47 -0400 From: Bosko Milekic To: Noor Dawod Message-ID: <20030604173247.GA77306@unixdaemons.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List Subject: Re: Sudden and unexplained reboots X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 17:32:53 -0000 On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 08:13:24PM +0200, Noor Dawod wrote: > Hello, > > I'm having a problem in one of the FreeBSD boxes that I manage. All of a > sudden, and for no particular reason, the machine just reboots abruptly. > When it loads up again, I cannot see an indication that there's anything > wrong in the configuration. > > By the way, the machine is running like this for few months, and no > changes were made lately. Machine has 2GB RAM, RAID-5 disk array and a > Xeon 933Mhz CPU. There's enough space on disk and more free RAM to drive > 5 desktop computers. > > Anyone got an idea how to debug the problem? and better, how to resolve > and fix it? > > Thanks in advance. > > /Noor Build a kernel with INVARIANTS and DDB options and see if you get dumped to the console debugger following a trap or panic at some point. Also, obviously, make sure that you're not getting any power surges or anything of the sort; basically anything hardware-related that could possibly cause a reboot. If you're plugged into a series-connected outlet, I would advise to try a different outlet. If you're plugged into a UPS, make sure that the load on it is not too high. -- Bosko Milekic bmilekic@unixdaemons.com bmilekic@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 4 10:39:18 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48DC837B401 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 10:39:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from manor.msen.com (manor.msen.com [148.59.4.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7394C43F85 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 10:39:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wayne@staff.msen.com) Received: from manor.msen.com (wayne@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by manor.msen.com (8.12.7M/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h54HdEbu018568 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 13:39:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from wayne@localhost) by manor.msen.com (8.12.7M/8.12.7/Submit) id h54HdEct018567 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 13:39:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 13:39:14 -0400 From: "Michael R. Wayne" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030604133914.U90466@staff.msen.com> References: <200306022317.JAA15853@lightning.itga.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <200306022317.JAA15853@lightning.itga.com.au>; from gnb@itga.com.au on Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 09:17:31AM +1000 Subject: Re: hints on KVM switches w/ X X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 17:39:18 -0000 On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 09:17:31AM +1000, Gregory Bond wrote: > I've had this happen to > > me when the KVM doesn't _really_ support the mouse I'm using, e.g. using > > an IntelliMouse Explorer with any Belkin KVM I've ever tried. > > Naturally, it's a Belkin. I'll try the flag and see if that works, or I could > just have 2 mice and not KVM-switch them! Note that Belkin will replace your KVM with one that has upgraded firmware, for free, if they have already fixxed the problem you are having. It's worth a call to their tech-support department. /\/\ \/\/ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 4 11:06:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 728FF37B401 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 11:06:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gw.catspoiler.org (217-ip-163.nccn.net [209.79.217.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC75543FAF for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 11:06:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from truckman@FreeBSD.org) Received: from FreeBSD.org (mousie.catspoiler.org [192.168.101.2]) by gw.catspoiler.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h54I61M7013783; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 11:06:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from truckman@FreeBSD.org) Message-Id: <200306041806.h54I61M7013783@gw.catspoiler.org> Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 11:06:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Lewis To: bmilekic@unixdaemons.com In-Reply-To: <20030604173247.GA77306@unixdaemons.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org cc: noor@comrax.com Subject: Re: Sudden and unexplained reboots X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 18:06:14 -0000 On 4 Jun, Bosko Milekic wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 08:13:24PM +0200, Noor Dawod wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I'm having a problem in one of the FreeBSD boxes that I manage. All of a >> sudden, and for no particular reason, the machine just reboots abruptly. >> When it loads up again, I cannot see an indication that there's anything >> wrong in the configuration. >> >> By the way, the machine is running like this for few months, and no >> changes were made lately. Machine has 2GB RAM, RAID-5 disk array and a >> Xeon 933Mhz CPU. There's enough space on disk and more free RAM to drive >> 5 desktop computers. >> >> Anyone got an idea how to debug the problem? and better, how to resolve >> and fix it? >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> /Noor > > Build a kernel with INVARIANTS and DDB options and see if you get > dumped to the console debugger following a trap or panic at some point. > > Also, obviously, make sure that you're not getting any power surges or > anything of the sort; basically anything hardware-related that could > possibly cause a reboot. If you're plugged into a series-connected > outlet, I would advise to try a different outlet. If you're plugged > into a UPS, make sure that the load on it is not too high. I'd also check to make sure that all the fans are operational and something isn't overheating. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 4 13:21:12 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89F7137B401; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 13:21:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from util.inch.com (ns.inch.com [216.223.192.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C8FA43F93; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 13:21:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from spork@inch.com) Received: from shell.inch.com (www.inch.com [216.223.192.20]) h54KL7oF005237; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 16:21:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from spork@inch.com) Received: from shell.inch.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by shell.inch.com (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h54KL7SM098857; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 16:21:07 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from spork@inch.com) Received: from localhost (spork@localhost)h54KL2cA098851; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 16:21:03 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: shell.inch.com: spork owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 16:21:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Charles Sprickman To: Don Lewis In-Reply-To: <200306041806.h54I61M7013783@gw.catspoiler.org> Message-ID: <20030604161854.M64514@shell.inch.com> References: <200306041806.h54I61M7013783@gw.catspoiler.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: bmilekic@unixdaemons.com cc: noor@comrax.com cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sudden and unexplained reboots X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 20:21:12 -0000 On Wed, 4 Jun 2003, Don Lewis wrote: > I'd also check to make sure that all the fans are operational and > something isn't overheating. I ran into two boxes with the same bad CPU fans. Took a while to track it down. Symptoms were seemingly random reboots, but the reboots could be made to happen more often if the box was loaded up. If your BIOS has hardware monitoring, check the CPU fan RPMs there as well; one box had a fan that was spinning, but only at about 1000 RPM, which was not enough to keep the CPU in spec. Charles > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 4 13:27:12 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE95737B401 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 13:27:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lilzcluster.liwest.at (lilzclust02.liwest.at [212.33.55.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5370643F75 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 13:27:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgw@liwest.at) Received: from cm58-27.liwest.at by lilzcluster.liwest.at (8.10.2/1.1.2.11/08Jun01-1123AM) id h54KR4u0001184241; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 22:27:06 +0200 (MEST) From: Daniela To: "Erik Paulsen Skaalerud" , Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 22:26:18 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 References: <001c01c32a1a$da2092f0$0a00000a@eps> In-Reply-To: <001c01c32a1a$da2092f0$0a00000a@eps> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200306042226.18706.dgw@liwest.at> Subject: Re: Server overloaded? Or is it a bug? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 20:27:12 -0000 On Tuesday 03 June 2003 21:55, Erik Paulsen Skaalerud wrote: > > > Did you try looking at its console? > > > It probably have lots of pretty messages of whats going on.. > > > > Can't look at the console. It hangs completely. > > Hm. If its running X on the console, have you tried forcing it to a vty? > (ie, alt+f2 or similar). If that doesnt work, I really dont know what to > say but to reboot it and see if you are lucky, -maybe- "dmesg -a" have some > errors in it from the failure. Or maybe /var/log/messages. It depends on > what the failure was really. I just rebooted, but there are no messages. About one minute before the crash, when I wasn't able to run any more programs, I looked at the console (nothing special there), tried to login on ttyv6 (could enter the username, but no password prompt) and went back to X. There I tried to find out what has happened. The cd command was working as expected, but top and ps (for example) did just nothing. When I opened a new terminal session, it showed up, but I didn't get a prompt. > > > > I don't have much running, just KDE with about 10 > > > > programs on each > > > > > > of the 16 desktops, and a few background processes. This > > > > seems much, > > > > > > but I often have much more stuff running, and it is not even slow. > > > > > > > > It does respond when I ping it, but won't let me in over SSH. The > > > > processor doesn't sound busy, so I suspect that the scheduler has > > > > gone away, or there is some bug in the kernel, or some > > > > system table > > > > > > is too small. > > > > > > Hm. What kind of sound does a busy CPU make? :-) > > > > > > > How do I find out what the problem is? (Never had any > > > > before.) > > > > > > Yeah, attach a console and find out whats going on. > > > > How can I do that? > > It doesn't respond to ctrl+alt+backspace and ctrl+alt+del, I > > can still move > > the mouse, but I can't click anything. > > See above > > >(I known I shouldn't run X11 on a server.) > > You're right, the console of a server should not run X11 :( > If you insist on running X11 on the console, maybe you should try to always > keep an xterm open with console messages? (see /etc/syslog.conf) X11 doesn't run on the console, it runs on ttyvb. And it doesn't run always. I only need it when I have to see graphics (I'm a command-line freak :-)). > > > > FreeBSD has always managed the highest loads, even > > > > on normal PC hardware. Is it possible to bring the server back > > > > without rebooting? I would lose a lot of unsaved data if I had to > > > > reboot. I'm running 4.8-STABLE. > > > > > > When a server responds to ping, but ssh times out etc it > > > > often relates > > > > > to hdd problems. Atleast in my experiences it has been so > > > > (dead disk). > > > > > And if it is hdd problems, and FreeBSD couldnt get the disk > > > > to wake up > > > > > again, you probably already have lost data. > > > > That could be the cause. One minute before the crash I could > > still enter shell > > builtin commands, but external commands did just nothing. > > > > Is it possible that the process table is full (I had more > > than 450 processes > > last time I ran top) or I ran out of memory (512M RAM + 1024M swap)? > > Well. Lets say that all the users use the same application. And all the > users got the same bug with the application, wich made it forkbomb and > consume large amounts of memory. 450 user-procs on the runaway could make > this happen, but its very unlikely. FreeBSD is good at locking down things > like this. But then again, if you run out of swap you're busted. I guess it's something with the processes. I'm pretty sure the kernel was still alive. The maximum number of processes is (maxusers * 20) + 18, right? From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 4 15:33:19 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF1A837B401 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 15:33:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mxout4.netvision.net.il (mxout4.netvision.net.il [194.90.9.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A5CD43F93 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 15:33:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from noor@comrax.com) Received: from dawodhome ([217.132.6.109]) by mxout4.netvision.net.il (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.14 (built Mar 18 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HFZ003WZAR1JN@mxout4.netvision.net.il> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2003 01:35:45 +0300 (IDT) Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 06:37:55 +0200 From: Noor Dawod In-reply-to: <20030604161854.M64514@shell.inch.com> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-id: <000501c32b1c$42bf5560$b655fea9@dawodhome> Organization: Comrax Ltd. MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Subject: RE: Sudden and unexplained reboots X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 22:33:20 -0000 Folks, After spending like an hour next to the server itself, I saw it crash with a 'page fault' panic. All speculations about fans and CPU over-heating is irrelevant as the server's cooling infrastructure is working perfectly (2 fans for CPU, 2 fans for disks, 2 external fans, 2 fans for the power supplies, and all are working.) The panic's details are as follows: Fatal trap 12 = page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0xbfc407fc fault code = supervisor write, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc021d5e3 stack pointer = 0x10:0xfbf8ae20 frame pointer = 0x10:0xfbf8ae2c code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 45671 (ftpd) interrupt mask = none trap number = 12 panic = page fault syncing disks... 56 2 Done Uptime: 51m35s Anyone knows what the hell is going on? By the way, is there a way to dump the panic's message to disk automatically when a panic occurs? Is there a log somewhere when a panic occurs? /Noor | -----Original Message----- | From: Charles Sprickman [mailto:spork@inch.com] | Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 10:21 PM | To: Don Lewis | Cc: bmilekic@unixdaemons.com; freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; | noor@comrax.com | Subject: Re: Sudden and unexplained reboots | | | On Wed, 4 Jun 2003, Don Lewis wrote: | | > I'd also check to make sure that all the fans are operational and | > something isn't overheating. | | I ran into two boxes with the same bad CPU fans. Took a | while to track it down. Symptoms were seemingly random | reboots, but the reboots could be made to happen more often | if the box was loaded up. If your BIOS has hardware | monitoring, check the CPU fan RPMs there as well; one box had | a fan that was spinning, but only at about 1000 RPM, which | was not enough to keep the CPU in spec. | | Charles | | > _______________________________________________ | > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list | > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable | > To unsubscribe, send any mail to | > "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" | > | From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 4 15:46:00 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64B7B37B401 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 15:46:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.museum.rain.com (gw-ipinc.museum.rain.com [206.29.169.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75DA043F3F for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 15:45:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stable@museum.rain.com) Received: from ns.museum.rain.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ns.museum.rain.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h54MjnS6068186; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 15:45:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stable@ns.museum.rain.com) Received: (from stable@localhost) by ns.museum.rain.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h54MjnRV068185; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 15:45:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stable) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 15:45:49 -0700 From: James Long To: Noor Dawod Message-ID: <20030604154549.A68164@ns.museum.rain.com> References: <20030604161854.M64514@shell.inch.com> <000501c32b1c$42bf5560$b655fea9@dawodhome> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <000501c32b1c$42bf5560$b655fea9@dawodhome>; from noor@comrax.com on Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 06:37:55AM +0200 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-29.3 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_MUTT version=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sudden and unexplained reboots X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: james_mapson@museum.rain.com List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 22:46:00 -0000 On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 06:37:55AM +0200, Noor Dawod wrote: > > The panic's details are as follows: > > Fatal trap 12 = page fault while in kernel mode I'd test memory thoroughly next. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 4 16:01:22 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 849D937B401 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 16:01:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (mta01-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6872243FAF for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 16:01:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scott@fishballoon.org) Received: from fishballoon.org ([81.104.195.199]) by mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with ESMTP id <20030604230120.PMGF2283.mta01-svc.ntlworld.com@fishballoon.org>; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 00:01:20 +0100 Received: from tuatara.fishballoon.org (tuatara [192.168.1.6]) by fishballoon.org (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h54N0b4o033150; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 00:00:37 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from scott@tuatara.fishballoon.org) Received: (from scott@localhost) by tuatara.fishballoon.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h54N0bZM032602; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 00:00:37 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from scott) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 00:00:37 +0100 From: Scott Mitchell To: Noor Dawod Message-ID: <20030604230037.GB7355@tuatara.fishballoon.org> References: <20030604161854.M64514@shell.inch.com> <000501c32b1c$42bf5560$b655fea9@dawodhome> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000501c32b1c$42bf5560$b655fea9@dawodhome> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE i386 cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sudden and unexplained reboots X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 23:01:22 -0000 On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 06:37:55AM +0200, Noor Dawod wrote: > Folks, > > After spending like an hour next to the server itself, I saw it crash > with a 'page fault' panic. All speculations about fans and CPU > over-heating is irrelevant as the server's cooling infrastructure is > working perfectly (2 fans for CPU, 2 fans for disks, 2 external fans, 2 > fans for the power supplies, and all are working.) > ... > > Anyone knows what the hell is going on? > By the way, is there a way to dump the panic's message to disk > automatically when a panic occurs? Is there a log somewhere when a panic > occurs? Take a look at chapter 17 of the developers handbook: http://www.uk.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug.html You want to save a crash dump when you get another one of these panics, that you can analyse later with gdb to find out exactly where it's crashing. I shouldn't speculate on causes until you have more idea what's happening, but this does smell like failing hardware. In your position, I'd be thinking about swapping RAM and maybe the power supply. Scott -- =========================================================================== Scott Mitchell | PGP Key ID | "Eagles may soar, but weasels Cambridge, England | 0x54B171B9 | don't get sucked into jet engines" scott at fishballoon.org | 0xAA775B8B | -- Anon From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 4 16:39:58 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49E0E37B401 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 16:39:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from c001.snv.cp.net (h000.c001.snv.cp.net [209.228.32.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9EA9843F93 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 16:39:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from carlos@reategui.com) Received: (cpmta 8796 invoked from network); 4 Jun 2003 16:39:56 -0700 Received: from 12.33.2.104 (HELO BORABORA) by smtp.register-admin.com (209.228.32.114) with SMTP; 4 Jun 2003 16:39:56 -0700 X-Sent: 4 Jun 2003 23:39:56 GMT Message-ID: <003201c32af2$960aac80$3b0aa8c0@sirf.com> From: "Carlos Reategui" To: "Noor Dawod" References: <20030604161854.M64514@shell.inch.com><000501c32b1c$42bf5560$b655fea9@dawodhome> <20030604230037.GB7355@tuatara.fishballoon.org> Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 16:39:47 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4920.2300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sudden and unexplained reboots X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 23:39:58 -0000 I would suggest http://www.memtest86.com I had some bad memory on a machine that drove me nuts for several months. I would suggest letting it run through the entire default set of tests. My problem did not show up until test 6 or 7. Since I discovered this I run it religiously on any new machine or one that I have changed the memory on. -Carlos PS. Sorry if this has been suggested already. I saw the thread midstream. > > I shouldn't speculate on causes until you have more idea what's happening, > but this does smell like failing hardware. In your position, I'd be > thinking about swapping RAM and maybe the power supply. > > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 4 19:07:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F232837B401 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 19:07:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from solomon.four10.com (solomon.four10.com [66.252.192.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 324F343F75 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 19:07:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tech@four10.com) Received: (qmail 22930 invoked from network); 5 Jun 2003 02:06:52 -0000 Received: from c-67-162-142-219.client.comcast.net (HELO blaq) (67.162.142.219) by solomon.four10.com with SMTP; 5 Jun 2003 02:06:52 -0000 Message-ID: <004501c32b07$2fd1cd30$db8ea243@blaq> From: "Onyi C. Ejiasa" Cc: References: <20030604161854.M64514@shell.inch.com><000501c32b1c$42bf5560$b655fea9@dawodhome><20030604230037.GB7355@tuatara.fishballoon.org> <003201c32af2$960aac80$3b0aa8c0@sirf.com> Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 20:07:15 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Re: Sudden and unexplained reboots X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Onyi C. Ejiasa" List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 02:07:07 -0000 Believe it or not I had the same problem less than 1 week ago! It always turns into a process of elimination game. After battling the = same errors and random reboots for 1 month or so (yes I even ran = MemTest86 5+ times without errors!), it turned out to be a flaky = motherboard. Regardless, all clues and experiences seem to point to a = hardware problem. ---------------------------------------------------------------- (T)archive.com 100Mbps Open Source Mirror ---------------------------------------------------------------- URL Location: www.tarchive.com Physical Location: Denver, CO - USA Connection: 100mbps Fibre Connection - Cogent Communications ---------------------------------------------------------------- Provided by: Four10.com Managed by: Onyi C. Ejiasa ---------------------------------------------------------------- Contact Info: tech@four10.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Carlos Reategui=20 To: Noor Dawod=20 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 5:39 PM Subject: Re: Sudden and unexplained reboots I would suggest http://www.memtest86.com I had some bad memory on a machine that drove me nuts for several = months. I would suggest letting it run through the entire default set of tests. = My problem did not show up until test 6 or 7. Since I discovered this I = run it religiously on any new machine or one that I have changed the memory = on. -Carlos PS. Sorry if this has been suggested already. I saw the thread = midstream. > > I shouldn't speculate on causes until you have more idea what's = happening, > but this does smell like failing hardware. In your position, I'd be > thinking about swapping RAM and maybe the power supply. > > _______________________________________________ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 4 20:27:00 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2212237B401 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 20:27:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jchurch.neville-neil.com (jchurch.neville-neil.com [209.157.133.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E7A843F93 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 20:26:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnn@neville-neil.com) Received: from jchurch.neville-neil.com.neville-neil.com (localhost [127.0.0.1])h553Qw48086793 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 20:26:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnn@neville-neil.com) Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 20:26:58 -0700 Message-ID: <871xy98arh.wl@jchurch.neville-neil.com.neville-neil.com> From: "George V. Neville-Neil" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.10.0 (Venus) SEMI/1.14.4 (Hosorogi) FLIM/1.14.4 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Kashiharajing=FE-mae?=) APEL/10.4 Emacs/21.2 (i386--freebsd) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.4 - "Hosorogi") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Broken -STABLE kernel build? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 03:27:00 -0000 Is anyone else seeing this: perl @/kern/makeops.pl -h @/opencrypto/crypto_if.m rm -f .depend mkdep -f .depend -a -nostdinc -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -I- -I. -I@ -I@/../include -I/usr/obj/usr/local/src-STABLE/src/i386/usr/include /usr/local/src-STABLE/src/sys/modules/hifn/../../dev/hifn/hifn7751.c /usr/local/src-STABLE/src/sys/modules/hifn/../../dev/hifn/hifn7751.c:47: opt_hifn.h: No such file or directory mkdep: compile failed *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/local/src-STABLE/src/sys/modules/hifn. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/local/src-STABLE/src/sys/modules. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/obj/usr/local/src-STABLE/src/sys/JCHURCH. *** Error code 1 My kernel config is included at the end of this email, and no, I'm not intentionally trying to use the hifn stuff, I don't have the hardware. Thanks, George # # GENERIC -- Generic kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/i386 # # For more information on this file, please read the handbook section on # Kernel Configuration Files: # # http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html # # The handbook is also available locally in /usr/share/doc/handbook # if you've installed the doc distribution, otherwise always see the # FreeBSD World Wide Web server (http://www.FreeBSD.org/) for the # latest information. # # An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the # device lines is also present in the ./LINT configuration file. If you are # in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first in LINT. # # $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC,v 1.246.2.35 2001/09/27 17:43:06 alfred Exp $ machine i386 cpu I686_CPU ident JCHURCH maxusers 32 #makeoptions DEBUG=-g #Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation options INET #InterNETworking options INET6 #IPv6 communications protocols options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!] options SOFTUPDATES #Enable FFS soft updates support options MFS #Memory Filesystem options MD_NSECT=65535 #/tmp is 32 Meg options MD_ROOT #MD is a potential root device options NFS #Network Filesystem options NFS_ROOT #NFS usable as root device, NFS required options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options CD9660 #ISO 9660 Filesystem options CD9660_ROOT #CD-ROM usable as root, CD9660 required options PROCFS #Process filesystem options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options SCSI_DELAY=15000 #Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor options KTRACE #ktrace(1) support options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores options P1003_1B #Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING options ICMP_BANDLIM #Rate limit bad replies options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev # To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed #options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel #options APIC_IO # Symmetric (APIC) I/O device isa device eisa device pci # Floppy drives device fdc0 at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2 device fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 device fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 # # If you have a Toshiba Libretto with its Y-E Data PCMCIA floppy, # don't use the above line for fdc0 but the following one: #device fdc0 # ATA and ATAPI devices device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14 device ata1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15 device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives device atapist # ATAPI tape drives options ATA_STATIC_ID #Static device numbering # SCSI Controllers device ahc # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices device aha0 at isa? # SCSI peripherals device scbus # SCSI bus (required) device da # Direct Access (disks) device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc) device cd # CD device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access) # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse device atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1 #device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12 device vga0 at isa? # splash screen/screen saver pseudo-device splash # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc0 at isa? flags 0x100 # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver #device vt0 at isa? #options XSERVER # support for X server on a vt console #options FAT_CURSOR # start with block cursor # If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of the PCVT lines #options PCVT_SCANSET=2 # IBM keyboards are non-std # Floating point support - do not disable. device npx0 at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13 # Serial (COM) ports device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4 device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3 device sio2 at isa? disable port IO_COM3 irq 5 device sio3 at isa? disable port IO_COM4 irq 9 # Parallel port device ppc0 at isa? irq 7 device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required) device lpt # Printer device plip # TCP/IP over parallel device ppi # Parallel port interface device #device vpo # Requires scbus and da # PCI Ethernet NICs. device de # DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'') device txp # 3Com 3cR990 (``Typhoon'') device vx # 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'') # PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code. # NOTE: Be sure to keep the 'device miibus' line in order to use these NICs! device miibus # MII bus support device dc # DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes device fxp # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558) device pcn # AMD Am79C97x PCI 10/100 NICs device rl # RealTek 8129/8139 device sf # Adaptec AIC-6915 (``Starfire'') device sis # Silicon Integrated Systems SiS 900/SiS 7016 device ste # Sundance ST201 (D-Link DFE-550TX) device tl # Texas Instruments ThunderLAN device tx # SMC EtherPower II (83c170 ``EPIC'') device vr # VIA Rhine, Rhine II device wb # Winbond W89C840F device wx # Intel Gigabit Ethernet Card (``Wiseman'') device xl # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'') # Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocate. pseudo-device loop # Network loopback pseudo-device ether # Ethernet support pseudo-device sl 1 # Kernel SLIP pseudo-device ppp 1 # Kernel PPP pseudo-device tun # Packet tunnel. pseudo-device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) pseudo-device md # Memory "disks" pseudo-device gif # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling pseudo-device faith 1 # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation) # The `bpf' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this! pseudo-device bpf #Berkeley packet filter # USB support device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface device usb # USB Bus (required) device ugen # Generic device uhid # "Human Interface Devices" device ukbd # Keyboard device ulpt # Printer device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da device ums # Mouse device uscanner # Scanners device urio # Diamond Rio MP3 Player # USB Ethernet, requires mii device aue # ADMtek USB ethernet device cue # CATC USB ethernet device kue # Kawasaki LSI USB ethernet device pcm From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 4 20:36:13 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E868437B404 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 20:36:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.36.230]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C02A43FA3 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 20:36:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mattb@houston.rr.com) Received: from henbane (cs6710132-244.houston.rr.com [67.10.132.244]) by ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com (8.12.5/8.12.2) with SMTP id h553aBfX013832 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 22:36:11 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 22:36:18 -0500 From: Matt Bettinger To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20030604223618.5b0d6d53.mattb@houston.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <871xy98arh.wl@jchurch.neville-neil.com.neville-neil.com> References: <871xy98arh.wl@jchurch.neville-neil.com.neville-neil.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.8) X-Face: henbane.homeunix.org X-Operating-System: www.freebsd.org User-Agent: I found love thru an GRE Rainbow Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Broken -STABLE kernel build? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 03:36:14 -0000 On Wed, 04 Jun 2003 20:26:58 -0700 "George V. Neville-Neil" wrote: > Is anyone else seeing this: > > perl @/kern/makeops.pl -h @/opencrypto/crypto_if.m > rm -f .depend > mkdep -f .depend -a -nostdinc -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -I- -I. -I@ -I@/../include -I/usr/obj/usr/local/src-STABLE/src/i386/usr/include /usr/local/src-STABLE/src/sys/modules/hifn/../../dev/hifn/hifn7751.c > /usr/local/src-STABLE/src/sys/modules/hifn/../../dev/hifn/hifn7751.c:47: opt_hifn.h: No such file or directory > mkdep: compile failed > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/local/src-STABLE/src/sys/modules/hifn. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/local/src-STABLE/src/sys/modules. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/obj/usr/local/src-STABLE/src/sys/JCHURCH. > *** Error code 1 > Yup. I rebuilt two machines today. Got that same error on one and not on the other (generic kernels) -mb From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 4 20:54:25 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D11E37B404 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 20:54:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pit.databus.com (p70-227.acedsl.com [66.114.70.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F63443F93 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 20:54:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from barney@pit.databus.com) Received: from pit.databus.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pit.databus.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h553sN9r066159 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 23:54:23 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from barney@pit.databus.com) Received: (from barney@localhost) by pit.databus.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h553sM9t066143 for stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 23:54:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 23:54:22 -0400 From: Barney Wolff To: stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030605035422.GA43189@pit.databus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.33 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) Subject: Re: buildkernel fails in hifn X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 03:54:25 -0000 /usr/src/sys/modules/hifn/Makefile appears to need an update to make it same as HEAD. Same with ..modules/ubsec/Makefile. Patches: Index: Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/modules/ubsec/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.2.2.1 diff -u -r1.2.2.1 Makefile --- Makefile 21 Nov 2002 23:38:47 -0000 1.2.2.1 +++ Makefile 5 Jun 2003 03:48:53 -0000 @@ -2,8 +2,11 @@ .PATH: ${.CURDIR}/../../dev/ubsec KMOD = ubsec -SRCS = ubsec.c +SRCS = ubsec.c opt_ubsec.h SRCS += device_if.h bus_if.h pci_if.h SRCS += opt_bdg.h opt_bus.h crypto_if.h +opt_ubsec.h: + echo "#define UBSEC_DEBUG 1" > opt_ubsec.h + .include Index: Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/modules/hifn/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.2.2.1 diff -u -r1.2.2.1 Makefile --- Makefile 21 Nov 2002 23:38:46 -0000 1.2.2.1 +++ Makefile 5 Jun 2003 03:43:48 -0000 @@ -2,8 +2,11 @@ .PATH: ${.CURDIR}/../../dev/hifn KMOD = hifn -SRCS = hifn7751.c +SRCS = hifn7751.c opt_hifn.h SRCS += device_if.h bus_if.h pci_if.h SRCS += opt_bdg.h opt_bus.h crypto_if.h +opt_hifn.h: + echo "#define HIFN_DEBUG 1" > opt_hifn.h + .include -- Barney Wolff http://www.databus.com/bwresume.pdf I'm available by contract or FT, in the NYC metro area or via the 'Net. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 4 22:38:29 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4893E37B401 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 22:38:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ms.nikopol.net (relay.nikopol.net [212.35.187.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38A2243F85 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 22:38:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from den@nikopol.net) Received: from 212.35.187.155 (admin.nikopol.net [212.35.187.155]) by ms.nikopol.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA21929 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 08:38:08 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from den@nikopol.net) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 08:36:58 +0300 From: "=>Den<=" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.75 Backspace Edition) Organization: MainStream X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <67155683100.20030605083658@nikopol.net> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: 2HDD -> 1HDD migrating question X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "=>Den<=" List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 05:38:29 -0000 Hello, Now I have two SCSI HDD and one of them becomes full of bad blocks :( Second HDD is OK and mounted to /mnt/newdisk How I can copy all information from first HDD (bootable) to second saving boot area and structure of catalogs? It is possible to attach to system one IDE drive and use Norton Ghost and Powerquest PartitionMagic. If You can, please describe steps that I need to do. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 4 22:55:21 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7EE437B401 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 22:55:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mxout3.netvision.net.il (mxout3.netvision.net.il [194.90.9.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0443443F75 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 22:55:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from noor@comrax.com) Received: from dawodhome ([217.132.6.109]) by mxout3.netvision.net.il (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.14 (built Mar 18 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HFZ00E7PV3TEO@mxout3.netvision.net.il> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2003 08:55:19 +0300 (IDT) Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 08:55:03 +0200 From: Noor Dawod In-reply-to: <20030604154549.A68164@ns.museum.rain.com> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-id: <000701c32b2f$66de5550$b655fea9@dawodhome> Organization: Comrax Ltd. MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Subject: RE: Sudden and unexplained reboots X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 05:55:21 -0000 Hi again, I must say that I believe I forgot to mention four main factors that might aid in finding the cause of the panic: 1) I use ipfw to limit allowed connections to the machine. I specifically limit connections to (ftpd) all along, which means that for some weird reason, the kernel panic'ed in (ftpd) while it shouldn't have been running at all. 2) the machine is based on a server motherboard and case, manufactured by Intel, and its hardware is highly appreciated. I had no problem with it at all ever. 3) Apache is failing to start on few occasions with sudden 'Signal 4' or 'Signal 11' exit codes. Restarting it would work most of the times. 4) kernel is built using "-O2 -pipe" make options. The above information is the currently used ones. I am building a new kernel now without the "-O2 -pipe" options, using a newly built world. I might add that the server has been rebooting yesterday every 1-2 hours, systematically. Last night I went to the ISP, opened the server up, validated that everything is working, then disabled (ftpd) at all from inetd. Now there's no way to start (ftpd)... Guess what? The server has been up for 7 hours now, and while it did so, it did all the dirty work that it usually does at night: calculating statistics, rsync'ing sources with other servers, building a new world, and other stuff... It didn't reboot, yet. Just few more information while trying to solve this case... /Noor | -----Original Message----- | From: James Long [mailto:stable@museum.rain.com] | Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 12:46 AM | To: Noor Dawod | Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org | Subject: Re: Sudden and unexplained reboots | | | On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 06:37:55AM +0200, Noor Dawod wrote: | > | > The panic's details are as follows: | > | > Fatal trap 12 = page fault while in kernel mode | | I'd test memory thoroughly next. | | From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 5 01:55:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5846437B401 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 01:55:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (mta02-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3787F43FB1 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 01:55:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scott@fishballoon.org) Received: from fishballoon.org ([81.104.195.199]) by mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with ESMTP id <20030605085501.YBMB9882.mta02-svc.ntlworld.com@fishballoon.org>; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 09:55:01 +0100 Received: from tuatara.fishballoon.org (tuatara [192.168.1.6]) by fishballoon.org (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h558sJ4o035552; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 09:54:19 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from scott@tuatara.fishballoon.org) Received: (from scott@localhost) by tuatara.fishballoon.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h558sJMY037214; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 09:54:19 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from scott) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 09:54:19 +0100 From: Scott Mitchell To: Noor Dawod Message-ID: <20030605085419.GA36987@tuatara.fishballoon.org> References: <20030604154549.A68164@ns.museum.rain.com> <000701c32b2f$66de5550$b655fea9@dawodhome> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000701c32b2f$66de5550$b655fea9@dawodhome> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE i386 cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sudden and unexplained reboots X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 08:55:04 -0000 On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 08:55:03AM +0200, Noor Dawod wrote: > Hi again, > > I must say that I believe I forgot to mention four main factors that > might aid in finding the cause of the panic: > > 1) I use ipfw to limit allowed connections to the machine. I > specifically limit connections to (ftpd) all along, which means that for > some weird reason, the kernel panic'ed in (ftpd) while it shouldn't have > been running at all. > > 2) the machine is based on a server motherboard and case, manufactured > by Intel, and its hardware is highly appreciated. I had no problem with > it at all ever. > > 3) Apache is failing to start on few occasions with sudden 'Signal 4' or > 'Signal 11' exit codes. Restarting it would work most of the times. Random sig 11's are a classic sign of dodgy RAM (especially) or other hardware. Take a look at http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11/ for much more information than you ever wanted... > 4) kernel is built using "-O2 -pipe" make options. > > The above information is the currently used ones. I am building a new > kernel now without the "-O2 -pipe" options, using a newly built world. This is a good idea, but I'd be tempted to install a kernel & world built on another machine if possible, in case some part of your toolchain is damaged. It'll be interesting to see how things work out with the new world. Scott -- =========================================================================== Scott Mitchell | PGP Key ID | "Eagles may soar, but weasels Cambridge, England | 0x54B171B9 | don't get sucked into jet engines" scott at fishballoon.org | 0xAA775B8B | -- Anon From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 5 02:41:22 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BDA737B401 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 02:41:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dns.comrax.com (dns.comrax.com [194.90.246.124]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A60943FA3 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 02:41:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from noor@comrax.com) Received: from noor (mail.comrax.com [194.90.246.126]) by dns.comrax.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 834D57250E for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 12:41:19 +0300 (IDT) From: "Noor Dawod" To: "FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List" Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 12:40:42 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1255" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4925.2800 Importance: Normal Subject: Boot problem on a P4P800-based computer X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 09:41:22 -0000 Hello all, I tried sending this message to freebsd-config and freebsd-install, after subscribing to them, but no one answered back... so I am posting my question here. I just downloaded ISO images for 4.8-RELEASE, and prepared them for installation on an brand new ASUS P4P800-based computer. More information about this motherboard and integrated peripherals list, can be found here: http://www.asus.com/products/mb/socket478/p4p800/overview.htm I am having a problem booting up the CD-ROM on this computer. After the kernel boots up, and then skipping the hardware configuration mode, the kernel boots until it reaches the PLIP secion, where it just waits there for good. The computer doesn't hang as I can press CAPS-LOCK and see it switch lights, but it just sits there without doing anything. There's also no disk activitity that I can see. What I did to try and solve the problem is this: 1) downloaded 4.7 floppies, then tryed to boot from them. Same scenario. 2) disabled nearly everything in the BIOS (serial, parallel, LAN, audio and even USB), but still same problem. 3) tried to boot into CLI mode, then disabled those same devices, but still same problem. 4) removed the LAN cable so it won't probe the network, but still the same problem persists. 5) loaded optimized and default values for the BIOS, but it still didn't help. By the way, I noticed that the kernel doesn't stumble in PLIP always... Since I disabled the parallel port in the BIOS, I noticed that after probing the serial ports, that the computer stopped responding and froze. It means that what comes after PLIP is causing the problem. Anyone knows what's the next hardware or thing that the kernel tries to do after probing PLIP? Anyone has the slightest idea how to debug or solve this problem? Thank you in advance. /Noor From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 5 07:29:29 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBAC837B401 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 07:29:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dns.comrax.com (dns.comrax.com [194.90.246.124]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3674B43FCB for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 07:29:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from noor@comrax.com) Received: from noor (mail.comrax.com [194.90.246.126]) by dns.comrax.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 624277250E for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 17:29:25 +0300 (IDT) From: "Noor Dawod" To: "FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List" Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 17:28:48 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1255" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4925.2800 Importance: Normal Subject: Additions: Boot problem on a P4P800-based computer X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 14:29:30 -0000 Hi again, Anyone has an idea how to debug this problem? I tried nearly everything possible, including disabling devices in the BIOS and in CLI mode. I even replaced the CD-ROM drive with another one, just in case it is faulty. The problem persists... The thing that is hanging the probing session comes after PLIP. That's where the boot process always stops... Next thing is to remove the hard disk, and try another one... Any idea what to do before I do this step? /Noor From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 5 07:49:41 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F5D537B404 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 07:49:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.burghcom.com (snoop.burghcom.com [209.114.176.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5F13D43F93 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 07:49:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jl@burghcom.com) Received: (qmail 80415 invoked from network); 5 Jun 2003 14:49:38 -0000 Received: from dhcp102-v252.hq.stargate.net (HELO burghcom.com) (209.114.133.102) by mail.burghcom.com with SMTP; 5 Jun 2003 14:49:38 -0000 Message-ID: <3EDF58C0.4000807@burghcom.com> Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 10:50:40 -0400 From: Jeff Love User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Noor Dawod References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1255; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List Subject: Re: Additions: Boot problem on a P4P800-based computer X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 14:49:41 -0000 Noor, Not much I can say here, but I did notice you bypassed the kernel config during setup, perhaps properly selecting the correct hardware in the visual kernel config would make a difference? Just a thought. Jeff Love Burgh Com Noor Dawod wrote: >Hi again, > >Anyone has an idea how to debug this problem? >I tried nearly everything possible, including disabling devices in the >BIOS and in CLI mode. I even replaced the CD-ROM drive with another one, >just in case it is faulty. The problem persists... > >The thing that is hanging the probing session comes after PLIP. That's >where the boot process always stops... >Next thing is to remove the hard disk, and try another one... > >Any idea what to do before I do this step? > >/Noor > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 5 08:05:36 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06BD537B401 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 08:05:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.omnis.com (smtp.omnis.com [216.239.128.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63C0443FCB for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 08:05:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr To: "Noor Dawod" , "FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List" Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 08:05:30 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.2 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1255" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200306050805.30126.wes@softweyr.com> Subject: Re: Boot problem on a P4P800-based computer X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 15:05:36 -0000 On Thursday 05 June 2003 03:40 am, Noor Dawod wrote: > Hello all, > > I tried sending this message to freebsd-config and freebsd-install, > after subscribing to them, but no one answered back... so I am posting > my question here. Neither of those mailing lists has anything to do with what you're asking. This is the right place to ask about problems with the -STABLE branch code. > I just downloaded ISO images for 4.8-RELEASE, and prepared them for > installation on an brand new ASUS P4P800-based computer. > More information about this motherboard and integrated peripherals > list, can be found here: > > http://www.asus.com/products/mb/socket478/p4p800/overview.htm > > I am having a problem booting up the CD-ROM on this computer. After the > kernel boots up, and then skipping the hardware configuration mode, the > kernel boots until it reaches the PLIP secion, where it just waits > there for good. The computer doesn't hang as I can press CAPS-LOCK and > see it switch lights, but it just sits there without doing anything. > There's also no disk activitity that I can see. > > [...] > > Anyone has the slightest idea how to debug or solve this problem? 1) Make sure the "PnP OS" setting in your BIOS is OFF. 2) Disable ACPI. 3) Try 5.1-RC1? -- Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket? Wes Peters wes@softweyr.com From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 5 08:28:23 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6761637B401 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 08:28:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dns.comrax.com (dns.comrax.com [194.90.246.124]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADE6943FBD for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 08:28:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from noor@comrax.com) Received: from noor (mail.comrax.com [194.90.246.126]) by dns.comrax.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 5082A72508 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 18:28:21 +0300 (IDT) From: "Noor Dawod" To: "FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List" Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 18:27:44 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1255" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4925.2800 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <200306050805.30126.wes@softweyr.com> Subject: RE: Boot problem on a P4P800-based computer X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 15:28:23 -0000 Hi all, The problem was solved! This motherboard supports Serial ATA ports, and this option was ON in the BIOS. Turning it OFF, and adjusting the auto-detect mode in the BIOS, solved the problem. FreeBSD's probed the Serial ATA ports I guess and hanged there... Maybe one of the developers might want to add a check for serial ATA in the kernel in future releases... Thanks for all that helped and tried. /Noor | -----Original Message----- | From: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org | [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Wes Peters | Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 5:06 PM | To: Noor Dawod; FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List | Subject: Re: Boot problem on a P4P800-based computer | | | On Thursday 05 June 2003 03:40 am, Noor Dawod wrote: | > Hello all, | > | > I tried sending this message to freebsd-config and freebsd-install, | > after subscribing to them, but no one answered back... so I | am posting | > my question here. | | Neither of those mailing lists has anything to do with what | you're asking. | This is the right place to ask about problems with the -STABLE branch | code. | | > I just downloaded ISO images for 4.8-RELEASE, and prepared them for | > installation on an brand new ASUS P4P800-based computer. | > More information about this motherboard and integrated peripherals | > list, can be found here: | > | > http://www.asus.com/products/mb/socket478/p4p800/overview.htm | > | > I am having a problem booting up the CD-ROM on this | computer. After the | > kernel boots up, and then skipping the hardware | configuration mode, the | > kernel boots until it reaches the PLIP secion, where it just waits | > there for good. The computer doesn't hang as I can press | CAPS-LOCK and | > see it switch lights, but it just sits there without doing anything. | > There's also no disk activitity that I can see. | > | > [...] | > | > Anyone has the slightest idea how to debug or solve this problem? | | 1) Make sure the "PnP OS" setting in your BIOS is OFF. | 2) Disable ACPI. | 3) Try 5.1-RC1? | | -- | | Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket? | | Wes Peters | wes@softweyr.com | | _______________________________________________ | freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list | http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable | To unsubscribe, send any mail to | "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" | From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 5 08:47:42 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCA0F37B401 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 08:47:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp0.adl1.internode.on.net (smtp0.adl1.internode.on.net [203.16.214.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B280243FBD for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 08:47:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from malcolm.kay@internode.on.net) Received: from beta.home (ppp304.sa.padsl.internode.on.net [150.101.245.47]) h55FleCT069087 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 01:17:40 +0930 (CST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Malcolm Kay Organization: At home To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 01:17:39 +0930 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200306060117.39607.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> Subject: dmesg -- multiple boot messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 15:47:43 -0000 Today I install FreeBSD release 4.8 on a machine for the first time. This is on a new machine so it could easily have as yet undetected hardware faults. I observe the 'dmesg' gives startup information not only for the latest=20 boot but also information generated in a number of previous boots. I've not seen this with earlier FreeBSD realeases including 4.7. Is it normal for FreeBSD 4.8 or should I be looking for hardware problems= ? I notice some change in that the files /var/log/dmesg.{today,yesterday} d= o not seem to be produced. Primary question: Is this normal for FreeBSD 4.8? Malcolm Kay=20 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 5 09:46:47 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E5EF37B401 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 09:46:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4658C43FAF for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 09:46:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h55GjKMJ033045 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 5 Jun 2003 17:46:41 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)h55GjKPO033044; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 17:45:20 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 17:45:20 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: Malcolm Kay Message-ID: <20030605164520.GC32515@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Malcolm Kay , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <200306060117.39607.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="bKyqfOwhbdpXa4YI" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200306060117.39607.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-7.5 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,PGP_SIGNATURE_2, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_MUTT version=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dmesg -- multiple boot messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 16:46:47 -0000 --bKyqfOwhbdpXa4YI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 01:17:39AM +0930, Malcolm Kay wrote: > I observe the 'dmesg' gives startup information not only for the latest= =20 > boot but also information generated in a number of previous boots. >=20 > I've not seen this with earlier FreeBSD realeases including 4.7. >=20 > Is it normal for FreeBSD 4.8 or should I be looking for hardware problems? Yes, that's normal. Certain BIOSes can be persuaded not to clear the memory buffer where the dmesg data are stored during reboots. If this feature is available, FreeBSD will take advantage of it -- that dmesg buffer might be your only clue as to why the machine just rebooted at all. The /var/log/dmesg.{today,yesterday} files will be produced overnight by the 700.kernelmsg periodic security script. Should be automatic in the default configuration. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --bKyqfOwhbdpXa4YI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+33OgdtESqEQa7a0RAtr3AJ9gTpzLZnwN1U5EcpgkDE83rEjbbQCgnAZY VPaVsP7V9ipCk6GozUcXhpc= =W2+o -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --bKyqfOwhbdpXa4YI-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 5 09:49:28 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A101837B401 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 09:49:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from laptop.tenebras.com (laptop.tenebras.com [66.92.188.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0F79F43FB1 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 09:49:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: (qmail 88148 invoked from network); 5 Jun 2003 16:49:25 -0000 Received: from sapphire.tenebras.com (HELO tenebras.com) (192.168.188.241) by 0 with SMTP; 5 Jun 2003 16:49:25 -0000 Message-ID: <3EDF7495.6020905@tenebras.com> Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 09:49:25 -0700 From: Michael Sierchio User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i386; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030425 X-Accept-Language: en-us, zh-tw, zh-cn, fr, en, de-de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Malcolm Kay References: <200306060117.39607.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> In-Reply-To: <200306060117.39607.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dmesg -- multiple boot messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 16:49:28 -0000 Malcolm Kay wrote: > I observe the 'dmesg' gives startup information not only for the latest > boot but also information generated in a number of previous boots. Normal. /var/run/dmesg.boot contains just the dmesg from the most recent boot. -- "Well," Brahma said, "even after ten thousand explanations, a fool is no wiser, but an intelligent man requires only two thousand five hundred." - The Mahabharata From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 5 09:56:28 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17B8837B404 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 09:56:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rootlabs.com (root.org [67.118.192.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 02E9843F3F for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 09:56:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nate@rootlabs.com) Received: (qmail 27713 invoked by uid 1000); 5 Jun 2003 16:56:27 -0000 Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 09:56:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Nate Lawson To: Shaun Jurrens In-Reply-To: <20030605091532.GO98443@nevada.skoleetaten.oslo.no> Message-ID: <20030605095126.B27684@root.org> References: <20030603152123.GM98443@nevada.skoleetaten.oslo.no> <20030605091532.GO98443@nevada.skoleetaten.oslo.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: Palle Girgensohn Subject: Re: fxp0: device timeout | SCB already complete (me too) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 16:56:28 -0000 On Thu, 5 Jun 2003, Shaun Jurrens wrote: > On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 06:32:46PM +0200, Palle Girgensohn wrote: > #> Hi Shaun, > #> > #> Thanks for the input! Glad to hear I'm not the only one > #> > #> In my case, both the SCSI and NIC are integrated on the motherboard, so I > #> cannot really move them around... :) > #> > #> Also, as I mentioned, I tried a de0 (PCI card, not onboard, and it > #> literally stopped the machine). Is the de0 driver also a problem? > > I'm beginning to think it's a scsi problem of sorts as well so > I clipped -hardware and Cc'd -scsi on this. I just happed to > (unfortunately) run into this on another box yesterday after > four months of relative quiet. I happened to be moving an > interface over from some crap Nortel switch to a nice Cisco > switch and promptly a different interface began to do it's dance. > It's the same interface each time (and I've changed cards...) > Anyway, for the record, a little from messages: > > Jun 2 18:48:43 nol33n0x /kernel: fxp0: Microcode loaded, int_delay: 1000 usec > bundle_max: 6 > Jun 4 16:57:50 nol33n0x /kernel: fxp1: SCB timeout: 0x80 0xe0 0x50 0x0 > Jun 4 16:57:51 nol33n0x last message repeated 4 times > Jun 4 16:57:51 nol33n0x /kernel: fxp1: SCB timeout: 0x80 0xe0 0x50 0x400 > Jun 4 16:57:58 nol33n0x /kernel: fxp1: SCB timeout: 0x80 0xe0 0x50 0x0 > Jun 4 16:57:58 nol33n0x last message repeated 3 times This doesn't mention SCSI anywhere. Your problem is almost certainly a PCI/interrupt problem. I'm redirecting this thread to -stable. > #> >The only suggestion I can offer at the moment is to try various card > #> >placements over your PCI slots. I've found stability using one of the > #> >first two slots for my Adaptec controller (2940U[2]W, 29160[N]) and the > #> >rest for the Intel nics. I got panics on boot with my BP6 (SMP) when I had an ahc controller in a PCI slot that didn't support bus mastering. I suggest you do what the above message says and try different combinations of cards in slots (i.e. keep removing one until you no longer get the messages and move around which slot is free). This will help people track down the problem. Also get your mobo manual and check if any slots force interrupt sharing or don't support bus mastering. -Nate From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 5 11:54:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF9E737B401 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 11:54:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lilzcluster.liwest.at (lilzclust01.liwest.at [212.33.55.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20C0443FBD for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 11:54:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgw@liwest.at) Received: from cm58-27.liwest.at by lilzcluster.liwest.at (8.10.2/1.1.2.11/08Jun01-1123AM) id h55IrvE0001012844; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 20:53:58 +0200 (MEST) From: Daniela To: Mike Hoskins , stable@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 20:53:23 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 References: <000501c329ca$963da1e0$0300000a@linkinpark> <20030603130623.S75412@fubar.adept.org> In-Reply-To: <20030603130623.S75412@fubar.adept.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200306052053.23051.dgw@liwest.at> Subject: Re: Server overloaded? Or is it a bug? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 18:54:05 -0000 On Tuesday 03 June 2003 20:13, Mike Hoskins wrote: > On Tue, 3 Jun 2003, Daniela wrote: > > My server doesn't respond any more. Everything crashed. > > Did the system wedge hard, or did X just lockup? Does ctrl-alt-backspace > do anything? That will often kill X if it's misbehaving. More > information about your hardware might also help someone spot potential > problems. I'm certain that X is not the problem. It's either a bug in the system, or, more likely, I ran out of a needed resource. > > How can I find out if this is a bug or it is simply overloaded? > > You said this has never happened before... Were you running anything or > doing anything that might coincide with the crash? Crash may not be the > right word... The first thing is deciding if it's really the OS, or some > application that's caused the behavior. Yes, it was the first time I extracted .zip files. I didn't do anything special. > > I don't have much running, just KDE with about 10 programs > > on each of the 16 desktops, and a few background processes. > > This seems much, but I often have much more stuff running, > > and it is not even slow. > > What's the load average look like? Are these network or I/O heavy > programs, or just "simple" applications? Load average is mostly something around 3.50, and the applications are mainly programming tools, lots of open shells, many browser windows, many tools for 3D graphics (network rendering, ...) and seven different servers. > > It does respond when I ping it, but won't let me in over SSH. > > Can you login locally? Are the consoles unresponsive? Was anything > printed on the console, particularly bright-white text? :) Login hanged after the password prompt and nothing was on the console (that was a short time before the system became completely unresponsive). > > The processor doesn't sound busy, so I suspect that the > > scheduler has gone away, or there is some bug in the kernel, or > > some system table is too small. > > If the disk, network, etc. are quiet and the machine in unresponsive to > console input... Your only option may be a reboot and a thorough > investigation afterwards. > > > I would lose a lot of unsaved data if I had to reboot. > > Eek. Save often, regardless of OS. ;) I'm sure this was only an exception. And I'm lazy. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 5 11:58:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1384737B401; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 11:58:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lilzcluster.liwest.at (lilzclust01.liwest.at [212.33.55.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C2DA43F3F; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 11:58:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgw@liwest.at) Received: from cm58-27.liwest.at by lilzcluster.liwest.at (8.10.2/1.1.2.11/08Jun01-1123AM) id h55IwAE0001011273; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 20:58:10 +0200 (MEST) From: Daniela To: Robert Watson Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 20:57:36 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200306052057.36601.dgw@liwest.at> cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Server overloaded? Or is it a bug? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 18:58:14 -0000 On Wednesday 04 June 2003 13:15, Robert Watson wrote: > When X wedges, even if the kernel is still alive, it can be hard to regain > control of the console. Here are some things you might try, though: > > (1) Try pinging the machine from another machine on the LAN/WAN. If it > responds to pings, then the kernel is at least a bit alive. You might > try logging in and see if the X server process is doing anything > particularly unusual. Yes, ping is working. > If you can ping but not build a TCP connection, it could be part of > the kernel is starved of resources -- too many sockets open, or the > like. Don't think the sockets are the problem. This machine is also a router for the LAN, and the client machines could still surf the net. > If you can build a TCP connection but not get an SSH banner back from > the server, then maybe you're out of processes and sshd can't fork. It asked me for the password, and then hanged. I guess it's something with the processes, but the kern.maxproc sysctl is set to 4068, and I never have so many processes. > If you can get partway through the banner but hang later, that might > be the result of a file system deadlock of some sort. This is also possible, but what could have caused it? My file I/O is not really heavy. > If you can log in, cool, it's probably an X problem and not strictly a > FreeBSD problem. > > (2) Try setting up a serial console ... > This will help clarify the problem a bit. If it's a panic or hang, the > next steps are generally to rebuild your kernel with debugging symbols and > DDB, see if you can get stack traces etc (documented in the handbook). > Having a serial console set up makes this a *lot* easier, since you can > use the other machine to copy/paste debugging information rather than > trying to hand-transcribe, get a system core (difficult if system is > wedged in X), etc. Can't set up a serial console. I already have debug symbols everywhere. I have alredy rebooted, and I'm now looking for application core dumps (however, I don't think an application crashed). Maybe I can reproduce it, I still know everything I did. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 5 12:46:35 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11FF737B401 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 12:46:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (mta05-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0EDB43FA3 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 12:46:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scott@fishballoon.org) Received: from fishballoon.org ([81.104.195.199]) by mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with ESMTP id <20030605194632.NZXP16933.mta05-svc.ntlworld.com@fishballoon.org> for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 20:46:32 +0100 Received: from tuatara.fishballoon.org (tuatara [192.168.1.6]) by fishballoon.org (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h55Jjn4o038222 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 20:45:50 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from scott@tuatara.fishballoon.org) Received: (from scott@localhost) by tuatara.fishballoon.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h55JjnhX044118 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 20:45:49 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from scott) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 20:45:49 +0100 From: Scott Mitchell To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030605194549.GD7355@tuatara.fishballoon.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE i386 Subject: umass device support...how generic is it? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 19:46:35 -0000 Is there any point in reporting specific devices that work with umass(4) any more, or is the assumption these days that anything that will work on a Windows or Linux box, without additional drivers, will also work on FreeBSD? The cheapo 'pen drive' that I picked up on ebay yesterday surprised me by just working, with no pain whatsoever... I'm wondering if maybe I shouldn't be so surprised by these small victories :-) If it is true that pretty much everything just works, the manpage and hardware list should probably be updated -- right now the manpage gives the impression that only a few devices are supported. I'll put together a PR unless someone in the know tells me I'm totally wrong about this. Scott -- =========================================================================== Scott Mitchell | PGP Key ID | "Eagles may soar, but weasels Cambridge, England | 0x54B171B9 | don't get sucked into jet engines" scott at fishballoon.org | 0xAA775B8B | -- Anon From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 5 12:49:49 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E673B37B404 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 12:49:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fubar.adept.org (fubar.adept.org [63.147.172.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 723CA43F93 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 12:49:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@adept.org) Received: by fubar.adept.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 07ED31524B; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 12:44:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fubar.adept.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0715615247 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 12:44:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 12:44:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Hoskins To: stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200306052053.23051.dgw@liwest.at> Message-ID: <20030605124336.V88021@fubar.adept.org> References: <000501c329ca$963da1e0$0300000a@linkinpark> <20030603130623.S75412@fubar.adept.org> <200306052053.23051.dgw@liwest.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: Server overloaded? Or is it a bug? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 19:49:50 -0000 On Thu, 5 Jun 2003, Daniela wrote: > Load average is mostly something around 3.50, and the applications are mainly > programming tools, lots of open shells, many browser windows, many tools for > 3D graphics (network rendering, ...) and seven different servers. > Login hanged after the password prompt and nothing was on the console (that > was a short time before the system became completely unresponsive). If you can provide more detail about your hardware, and what specific applications were running... Someone may be able to relate the issue to a known or suspected bug. Otherwise, it could have been almost anything with so many variables. :) -mrh -- From: "Spam Catcher" To: spam-catcher@adept.org Do NOT send email to the address listed above or you will be added to a blacklist! From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 5 13:20:23 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA96A37B404 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 13:20:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5033443F85 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 13:20:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h55KJ9On007445; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 16:19:10 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (robert@localhost)h55KJ92o007441; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 16:19:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 16:19:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: Daniela In-Reply-To: <200306052057.36601.dgw@liwest.at> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Server overloaded? Or is it a bug? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 20:20:24 -0000 On Thu, 5 Jun 2003, Daniela wrote: > > (1) Try pinging the machine from another machine on the LAN/WAN. If it > > responds to pings, then the kernel is at least a bit alive. You might > > try logging in and see if the X server process is doing anything > > particularly unusual. > > Yes, ping is working. So this tells us that interrupt delivery appears to be working fine for your NIC, that the network stack isn't completely hosed, and can allocate packet buffers (mbufs), so isn't memory-starved at that level of the system. > > If you can ping but not build a TCP connection, it could be part of > > the kernel is starved of resources -- too many sockets open, or the > > like. > > Don't think the sockets are the problem. This machine is also a router > for the LAN, and the client machines could still surf the net. Sockets are used only for locally terminated connections, and come out of a separate memory pool from packet buffers (well, it's a little more complicated than that, but that's enough to get the picture). The reason I wondered about this was that one of the classes of possible memory starvation is to reach the allocation limit on sockets. We allocate the socket (and TCP state) a couple of packets into the TCP setup, so if the TCP setup got partway completed and then there was no further response, we'd have a possible explanation. Since the connection completes, it's probably safe to assume the TCP state and socket were fully allocated, and the socket was returned by the kernel to the application, or at least, the kernel got pretty much to the point of returning it to the application. > > If you can build a TCP connection but not get an SSH banner back from > > the server, then maybe you're out of processes and sshd can't fork. > > It asked me for the password, and then hanged. I guess it's something > with the processes, but the kern.maxproc sysctl is set to 4068, and I > never have so many processes. Try using "slogin -v" or "ssh -v" on the client, and paste the results into an e-mail in response to this one. The SSH daemon does a lot of work to set up a new connection -- it forks a process or two, does name lookups, allocates pseudo-terminals, invokes PAM, and all kinds of other things. There are failure modes for each of these, and a bit more detail might let us track it down. Particularly useful might be the results of "slogin -v" both when the machine is operating normally, and when it's hosed. This will let us figure out about when during the process something failed, and what it might have been doing. > > If you can get partway through the banner but hang later, that might > > be the result of a file system deadlock of some sort. > > This is also possible, but what could have caused it? My file I/O is not > really heavy. Deadlock is a bit of a misnomer for what I have in mind. There are two classes of things that look like deadlocks: lock order problems, and lock leaks. Lock order problems are real deadlocks, where you grab locks in the wrong order -- they tend to occur under high load, since race windows open up improving the chances of a problem, as well as increasing the probability of it occuring due to a high number of operations. Common activities that increase the chance of a lock order reversal in FreeBSD's VFS include simultaneous use of chroot(), quotas, and vnode-backed vn/md devices. Quotas and vnodes both violate the lock order (although in ways that hardly ever manifest in practice), and chroot() tend to create less common lock aquisition orders for applications when running in kernel. Nullfs is also a common cause of problems. I think most of these are unlikely to be the problem in your environment, especially given that you don't have a massively high load with tens of thousands of simultaneous processes all installing world in chroot()'s on vn-backed file systems with quotas. The second class of problems relates to lock leaks, which occur in unusual failure modes. The implementation neglects to release a lock under some scenario, and the result is that no other process can ever acquire the lock. These are relatively rare, but once in a while we bump into one, and it's a bit of a pain to debug. The symptoms are very similar to a deadlock, since gradually processes stack up trying to acquire the lock while holding other locks, and typically this results in a "race to root", in which sets of processes hold pairs of locks down the file hierarchy, and eventually the root vnode lock can't be grabbed, so all processes doing name lookups from the root hang. (Ouch). NFS can also trigger races to roots: if an NFS server hangs, NFS client processes may be holding a vnode lock when the NFS server ceases to respond. If processes hold multiple locks at a time (such as during lookup), this can also result in a race to the root. There are some changes to -CURRENT submitted by Jeff Roberson, which greatly reduce the chances of this happening. Since you're not using NFS, I believe, it's unlikely to relate to this. So the VFS deadlock is somewhat of a shot in the dark, but it has pretty easy to identify symptoms, especially if you can get to a debugger. They're also fairly easy to analyze. > > If you can log in, cool, it's probably an X problem and not strictly a > > FreeBSD problem. > > > > (2) Try setting up a serial console > > ... > > > This will help clarify the problem a bit. If it's a panic or hang, the > > next steps are generally to rebuild your kernel with debugging symbols and > > DDB, see if you can get stack traces etc (documented in the handbook). > > Having a serial console set up makes this a *lot* easier, since you can > > use the other machine to copy/paste debugging information rather than > > trying to hand-transcribe, get a system core (difficult if system is > > wedged in X), etc. > > Can't set up a serial console. Hmm. That sucks; a serial console is one of the single most useful debugging tools available, since it allows you to track the state of the system while the GUI is running. Are you sure you can't? :-) It can be an old IBM XT with a NULL modem cable... > I already have debug symbols everywhere. I have alredy rebooted, and I'm > now looking for application core dumps (however, I don't think an > application crashed). Maybe I can reproduce it, I still know everything > I did. I think we'll find that it's either a kernel problem, or an X problem triggering a kernel problem, so we're unlikely to find useful core dumps from applications. A system core might be useful, but hard to get without a serial console. Ok, so at the end of this all, here were my pieces of advice on debugging it, if you can reproduce it: (1) Compare "slogin -v" to the system in the before and after scenarios, that may tell us a lot about what's broken. (2) Despite the fact that you can't set up a serial console, set up a serial console. :-) Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Projects robert@fledge.watson.org Network Associates Laboratories From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 5 14:19:16 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A80837B401; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 14:19:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.omnis.com (smtp.omnis.com [216.239.128.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B516843F85; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 14:19:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr.com To: "Noor Dawod" , "FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List" Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 14:18:54 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1255" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200306051418.54942.wes@softweyr.com> cc: sos@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Boot problem on a P4P800-based computer X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 21:19:16 -0000 On Thursday 05 June 2003 09:27, Noor Dawod wrote: > Hi all, > > The problem was solved! > This motherboard supports Serial ATA ports, and this option was ON in > the BIOS. > Turning it OFF, and adjusting the auto-detect mode in the BIOS, > solved the problem. > > FreeBSD's probed the Serial ATA ports I guess and hanged there... > Maybe one of the developers might want to add a check for serial ATA > in the kernel in future releases... Glad you're up and running. Maybe Soren can shed some light on this. Soren, he's running 4.8 RELEASE and the boot probe seems to stick when he hits the onboard S-ATA ports. Should this work in 4.8? -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters wes@softweyr.com From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 5 14:21:48 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00FD537B401 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 14:21:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vmx2.skoleetaten.oslo.no (vmx2.skoleetaten.oslo.no [193.156.192.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB93443FA3 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 14:21:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shamz@nevada.skoleetaten.oslo.no) Received: from smtp.skoleetaten.oslo.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vmx2.skoleetaten.oslo.no (Clean Mail System) with SMTP id B3867793B5; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 23:20:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from nevada.skoleetaten.oslo.no (nevada.skoleetaten.oslo.no [193.156.192.131]) by smtp.skoleetaten.oslo.no (Clean Mail System) with ESMTP id 7ED49792ED; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 23:20:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from nevada.skoleetaten.oslo.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h55LKHOU056049; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 23:20:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from shamz@nevada.skoleetaten.oslo.no) Received: (from shamz@localhost)h55LKBlY056048; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 23:20:11 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 23:20:11 +0200 From: Shaun Jurrens To: Nate Lawson Message-ID: <20030605212011.GQ98443@nevada.skoleetaten.oslo.no> References: <20030603152123.GM98443@nevada.skoleetaten.oslo.no> <46490000.1054744366@rambutan.pingpong.net> <20030605091532.GO98443@nevada.skoleetaten.oslo.no> <20030605095126.B27684@root.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="25rOlkxR6a4U87uN" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030605095126.B27684@root.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: Palle Girgensohn Subject: Re: fxp0: device timeout | SCB already complete (me too) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 21:21:48 -0000 --25rOlkxR6a4U87uN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 09:56:27AM -0700, Nate Lawson wrote: #> On Thu, 5 Jun 2003, Shaun Jurrens wrote: #> > On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 06:32:46PM +0200, Palle Girgensohn wrote: #> > #> Hi Shaun, #> > #> #> > #> Thanks for the input! Glad to hear I'm not the only one #> > #> #> > #> In my case, both the SCSI and NIC are integrated on the motherboard= , so I #> > #> cannot really move them around... :) #> > #> #> > #> Also, as I mentioned, I tried a de0 (PCI card, not onboard, and it #> > #> literally stopped the machine). Is the de0 driver also a problem? #> > #> > Jun 4 16:57:50 nol33n0x /kernel: fxp1: SCB timeout: 0x80 0xe0 0x50 0x0 #> > Jun 4 16:57:51 nol33n0x last message repeated 4 times #> > Jun 4 16:57:58 nol33n0x last message repeated 3 times #>=20 #> This doesn't mention SCSI anywhere. Your problem is almost certainly a #> PCI/interrupt problem. I'm redirecting this thread to -stable. I found the printf finally in /usr/src/sys/dev/fxp/if_fxp.c . Excuse the -scsi pollution. I've just seen the combination=20 very often of an ahc controller and the fxp nic being at the=20 scene of the problem, even from others on IRC. #>=20 #> > #> >The only suggestion I can offer at the moment is to try various ca= rd #> > #> >placements over your PCI slots. I've found stability using one of = the #> > #> >first two slots for my Adaptec controller (2940U[2]W, 29160[N]) an= d the #> > #> >rest for the Intel nics. #>=20 #> I got panics on boot with my BP6 (SMP) when I had an ahc controller in a #> PCI slot that didn't support bus mastering. I suggest you do what the #> above message says and try different combinations of cards in slots (i.e. #> keep removing one until you no longer get the messages and move around #> which slot is free). This will help people track down the problem. Also #> get your mobo manual and check if any slots force interrupt sharing or #> don't support bus mastering. Since I wrote the original message, it's something I've had to=20 do an incredible amount of, quite frankly. In fact, so much that it can't be normal. An identical box running linux with 8 nics,=20 2 of which are dual intel nic's has no problems whatsoever. The generic 3com (xl) nic's don't display this problem either.=20 Either the 3com's are more generous in what they accept for=20 interrupt routing or DMA failures, or the fxp driver is a little b0rked somewhere. I won't rule out that PC hardware sucks, etc., because I've worked on enough of it to already know that. BIOS's have been updated or not, same problems show up on at=20 least 3 different mainboards from two different manufacturers on both VIA and Intel chipsets. To the best of my knowledge, this began late last year. I wish I had some more modern hardware and some decent Serverworks boards to work on, but that stuff only sees windblows terminal servers here. I'll see if I can track this down somehow, but my time, like the rest of yours, is limited. I'm trying to keep this show running on a rubberband and a=20 shoestring.=20 #>=20 #> -Nate --=20 Med vennlig hilsen/Sincerely, Shaun D. Jurrens Drift og Sikkerhetskonsulent IKT-Avdeling Oslo Skoleetaten gpg key fingerprint: 007A B6BD 8B1B BAB9 C583 2D19 3A7F 4A3E F83E 84AE --25rOlkxR6a4U87uN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+37QLOn9KPvg+hK4RAkDDAJ4xdBCBUa8xd2D6Tv6gjgOo1kMTeACgnnBU kOVSfbXWC5qNggArO4S8qdI= =nkJ5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --25rOlkxR6a4U87uN-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 5 14:35:28 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0801A37B401 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 14:35:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rootlabs.com (root.org [67.118.192.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7C59343F3F for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 14:35:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nate@rootlabs.com) Received: (qmail 28174 invoked by uid 1000); 5 Jun 2003 21:35:28 -0000 Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 14:35:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Nate Lawson To: Shaun Jurrens In-Reply-To: <20030605212011.GQ98443@nevada.skoleetaten.oslo.no> Message-ID: <20030605142931.F28156@root.org> References: <20030603152123.GM98443@nevada.skoleetaten.oslo.no> <20030605091532.GO98443@nevada.skoleetaten.oslo.no> <20030605212011.GQ98443@nevada.skoleetaten.oslo.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: Palle Girgensohn Subject: Re: fxp0: device timeout | SCB already complete (me too) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 21:35:28 -0000 On Thu, 5 Jun 2003, Shaun Jurrens wrote: > On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 09:56:27AM -0700, Nate Lawson wrote: > #> On Thu, 5 Jun 2003, Shaun Jurrens wrote: > #> > On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 06:32:46PM +0200, Palle Girgensohn wrote: > #> > #> Hi Shaun, > #> > #> > #> > #> Thanks for the input! Glad to hear I'm not the only one > #> > #> > #> > #> In my case, both the SCSI and NIC are integrated on the motherboard, so I > #> > #> cannot really move them around... :) > #> > #> > #> > #> Also, as I mentioned, I tried a de0 (PCI card, not onboard, and it > #> > #> literally stopped the machine). Is the de0 driver also a problem? > #> > > #> > Jun 4 16:57:50 nol33n0x /kernel: fxp1: SCB timeout: 0x80 0xe0 0x50 0x0 > #> > Jun 4 16:57:51 nol33n0x last message repeated 4 times > #> > Jun 4 16:57:58 nol33n0x last message repeated 3 times > #> > #> This doesn't mention SCSI anywhere. Your problem is almost certainly a > #> PCI/interrupt problem. I'm redirecting this thread to -stable. > > I found the printf finally in /usr/src/sys/dev/fxp/if_fxp.c . > Excuse the -scsi pollution. I've just seen the combination > very often of an ahc controller and the fxp nic being at the > scene of the problem, even from others on IRC. That's understandable. > #> I got panics on boot with my BP6 (SMP) when I had an ahc controller in a > #> PCI slot that didn't support bus mastering. I suggest you do what the > #> above message says and try different combinations of cards in slots (i.e. > #> keep removing one until you no longer get the messages and move around > #> which slot is free). This will help people track down the problem. Also > #> get your mobo manual and check if any slots force interrupt sharing or > #> don't support bus mastering. > > Since I wrote the original message, it's something I've had to > do an incredible amount of, quite frankly. In fact, so much that > it can't be normal. An identical box running linux with 8 nics, > 2 of which are dual intel nic's has no problems whatsoever. The > generic 3com (xl) nic's don't display this problem either. > > Either the 3com's are more generous in what they accept for > interrupt routing or DMA failures, or the fxp driver is a > little b0rked somewhere. I expect the problem is one or more of the following: deficiencies in our PCI subsystem and/or deficiencies in the fxp driver coupled with potential quirks in your motherboard. Note that I am not saying your mobo is at fault, just that it is probably what is revealing the issues in FreeBSD. > To the best of my knowledge, this > began late last year. I wish I had some more modern hardware and > some decent Serverworks boards to work on, but that stuff only > sees windblows terminal servers here. I'll see if I can track > this down somehow, but my time, like the rest of yours, is limited. > I'm trying to keep this show running on a rubberband and a > shoestring. It would help if you found exactly the minimal hw combination to trigger it (i.e. "no PCI cards except for one fxp each in slot 4 and slot 5"). Then, find out why slot 4 and 5 are special on your mobo. In parallel, you should use cvs -D to work back to the particular fxp or pci commit that broke your system. -Nate From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 5 15:20:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88DCC37B401 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 15:20:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp0.adl1.internode.on.net (smtp0.adl1.internode.on.net [203.16.214.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E2F843FBD for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 15:20:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from malcolm.kay@internode.on.net) Received: from beta.home (ppp304.sa.padsl.internode.on.net [150.101.245.47]) h55MJxCT000322; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 07:49:59 +0930 (CST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Malcolm Kay Organization: At home To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 07:49:58 +0930 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 References: <200306060117.39607.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> <20030605164520.GC32515@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20030605164520.GC32515@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200306060749.58906.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> Subject: Re: dmesg -- multiple boot messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 22:20:03 -0000 It's a relief to know it is not indicitive of hardware problems. And yes, I do see the value. I take it this is not then so much a function of the release version of FreeBSD but the available characteristics of this new hardware. On Fri, 6 Jun 2003 02:15, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 01:17:39AM +0930, Malcolm Kay wrote: > > I observe the 'dmesg' gives startup information not only for the late= st > > boot but also information generated in a number of previous boots. > > > > I've not seen this with earlier FreeBSD realeases including 4.7. > > > > Is it normal for FreeBSD 4.8 or should I be looking for hardware > > problems? > > Yes, that's normal. Certain BIOSes can be persuaded not to clear the > memory buffer where the dmesg data are stored during reboots. If this > feature is available, FreeBSD will take advantage of it -- that dmesg > buffer might be your only clue as to why the machine just rebooted at > all. > > The /var/log/dmesg.{today,yesterday} files will be produced overnight > by the 700.kernelmsg periodic security script. Should be automatic in > the default configuration. > On Fri, 6 Jun 2003 02:19, Michael Sierchio wrote: > Normal. > > /var/run/dmesg.boot contains just the dmesg from the most recent boot. Thanks guys, Malcolm Kay From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 5 21:11:13 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA8CD37B401 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 21:11:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from awww.jeah.net (awww.jeah.net [216.111.239.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E21EC43F93 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 21:11:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@JEAH.net) Received: from chris (chris [24.209.188.26]) by awww.jeah.net (8.12.6p2/8.12.9) with SMTP id h564BAvC015030 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 23:11:11 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chris@JEAH.net) Message-ID: <0a6f01c32be1$a4b3f940$1abcd118@wi.rr.com> From: "Chris Byrnes" To: Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 23:11:01 -0500 Organization: JEAH Communications, LLC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: sendmail: clientmqueue directory storing massive messages, not being cleared X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 04:11:13 -0000 I just got done sending 42,000 e-mail messages that were rotting away in /var/spool/clientmqueue. I figured out the command to do so was "sendmail -L sm-msp-queue -Ac -q30m". I never even knew that directory existed. I thought everything queued was kept in /var/spool/mqueue (which, I might add is being taken care of on a regular basis.. just seems the problem lies in the /var/spool/clientmqueue directory). Is this a new thing that I'm stupidly unaware of? Can you please explain the difference between /var/spool/clientmqueue and /var/spool/mqueue and why one seems to be taken care of regularly, but the other had 42,000 unsent messages? When I start sendmail, I've always just run "/usr/sbin/sendmail -bd -q60m -h10 -R full". Do I need to do something differently? Please cc: as I am not subscribed. Thank you in advance for your help. Chris From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 5 21:12:18 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B941937B401 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 21:12:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from carver.gumbysoft.com (carver.gumbysoft.com [66.220.23.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59AD643F3F for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 21:12:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gumbysoft.com) Received: by carver.gumbysoft.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4289572FDC; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 21:12:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by carver.gumbysoft.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 412CF72FD1; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 21:12:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 21:12:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: Scott Mitchell In-Reply-To: <20030605194549.GD7355@tuatara.fishballoon.org> Message-ID: <20030605211016.F90750@carver.gumbysoft.com> References: <20030605194549.GD7355@tuatara.fishballoon.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: umass device support...how generic is it? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 04:12:19 -0000 On Thu, 5 Jun 2003, Scott Mitchell wrote: > Is there any point in reporting specific devices that work with umass(4) > any more, or is the assumption these days that anything that will work on a > Windows or Linux box, without additional drivers, will also work on > FreeBSD? The cheapo 'pen drive' that I picked up on ebay yesterday > surprised me by just working, with no pain whatsoever... I'm wondering if > maybe I shouldn't be so surprised by these small victories :-) The umass device driver grabs anything that claims to be a mass storage device class. The only time things need to be reported is if they need quirks due to unusual behavior. If it just works, say no more. :) > If it is true that pretty much everything just works, the manpage and > hardware list should probably be updated -- right now the manpage gives the > impression that only a few devices are supported. I'll put together a PR > unless someone in the know tells me I'm totally wrong about this. It could use some clarification. it was written when USB devices were rare and generally confined to use on the new Apple product called the iMac. :-) -- Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@gumbysoft.com | www.FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 5 21:14:29 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6E3F37B401 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 21:14:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from carver.gumbysoft.com (carver.gumbysoft.com [66.220.23.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C32243F85 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 21:14:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gumbysoft.com) Received: by carver.gumbysoft.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3E19672FDC; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 21:14:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by carver.gumbysoft.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B09072FD1; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 21:14:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 21:14:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: Chris Byrnes In-Reply-To: <0a6f01c32be1$a4b3f940$1abcd118@wi.rr.com> Message-ID: <20030605211228.X90750@carver.gumbysoft.com> References: <0a6f01c32be1$a4b3f940$1abcd118@wi.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sendmail: clientmqueue directory storing massive messages, not being cleared X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 04:14:29 -0000 On Thu, 5 Jun 2003, Chris Byrnes wrote: > Can you please explain the difference between /var/spool/clientmqueue and > /var/spool/mqueue and why one seems to be taken care of regularly, but the > other had 42,000 unsent messages? When I start sendmail, I've always just > run "/usr/sbin/sendmail -bd -q60m -h10 -R full". Do I need to do something > differently? This allows the local system to send mail normally (i.e., store mail for retry in cases where it could not be immediately sent) but yet not run a persistent listening sendmail daemon. This was added in the sendmail 8.12 range and has been active on FreeBSD since the early 4.X days. Even if you had sendmail_enable="NO" in rc.conf, the clientmqueue scanner should have started up. You had to make it sendmail_enable="NONE" to completely shut it off. -- Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@gumbysoft.com | www.FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 5 22:24:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABFA437B401 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 22:24:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (horsey.gshapiro.net [64.105.95.154]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15D3D43F85 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 22:24:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gshapiro@gshapiro.net) Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h565O8hm049997 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 5 Jun 2003 22:24:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost)h565N6gv049978; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 22:23:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 22:23:06 -0700 From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: Chris Byrnes Message-ID: <20030606052306.GD61519@horsey.gshapiro.net> References: <0a6f01c32be1$a4b3f940$1abcd118@wi.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <0a6f01c32be1$a4b3f940$1abcd118@wi.rr.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sendmail: clientmqueue directory storing massive messages, not being cleared X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 05:24:15 -0000 > I never even knew that directory existed. I thought everything queued was > kept in /var/spool/mqueue (which, I might add is being taken care of on a > regular basis.. just seems the problem lies in the /var/spool/clientmqueue > directory). Is this a new thing that I'm stupidly unaware of? > > Can you please explain the difference between /var/spool/clientmqueue and > /var/spool/mqueue and why one seems to be taken care of regularly, but the > other had 42,000 unsent messages? When I start sendmail, I've always just > run "/usr/sbin/sendmail -bd -q60m -h10 -R full". Do I need to do something > differently? Please read /etc/mail/README (or /usr/src/etc/mail/README if you don't keep /etc/ up to date). Also, `man rc.sendmail` for more information about sendmail startup. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 6 00:00:32 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB9CB37B401; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 00:00:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spider.deepcore.dk (cpe.atm2-0-56339.0x50c6aa0a.abnxx2.customer.tele.dk [80.198.170.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26BD843F75; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 00:00:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@spider.deepcore.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by spider.deepcore.dk (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) id h5670M3l001750; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 09:00:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sos) From: Soeren Schmidt Message-Id: <200306060700.h5670M3l001750@spider.deepcore.dk> In-Reply-To: <200306051418.54942.wes@softweyr.com> To: Wes Peters Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 09:00:22 +0200 (CEST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL98b (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List cc: Noor Dawod cc: sos@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Boot problem on a P4P800-based computer X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 07:00:33 -0000 It seems Wes Peters wrote: >On Thursday 05 June 2003 09:27, Noor Dawod wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> The problem was solved! >> This motherboard supports Serial ATA ports, and this option was ON in >> the BIOS. >> Turning it OFF, and adjusting the auto-detect mode in the BIOS, >> solved the problem. >> >> FreeBSD's probed the Serial ATA ports I guess and hanged there... >> Maybe one of the developers might want to add a check for serial ATA >> in the kernel in future releases... > >Glad you're up and running. > >Maybe Soren can shed some light on this. Soren, he's running 4.8 >RELEASE and the boot probe seems to stick when he hits the onboard >S-ATA ports. Should this work in 4.8? 4.x lacks support for alot of the newer chips out there, including most SATA parts (depends on model/vendor of cause). However I need to know which chip this is to be certain, dmesg/pciconf -l output would be handy.. -Søren From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 6 01:15:11 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD04B37B401 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 01:15:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mxout1.netvision.net.il (mxout1.netvision.net.il [194.90.9.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28CEF43FAF for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 01:15:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from noor@comrax.com) Received: from dawodhome ([217.132.52.119]) by mxout1.netvision.net.il (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.14 (built Mar 18 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HG10013HW8ZLX@mxout1.netvision.net.il> for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 11:15:09 +0300 (IDT) Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 11:15:02 +0200 From: Noor Dawod In-reply-to: <200306060700.h5670M3l001750@spider.deepcore.dk> To: 'FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List' Message-id: <001b01c32c0c$203611f0$b655fea9@dawodhome> Organization: Comrax Ltd. MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Subject: RE: Boot problem on a P4P800-based computer X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 08:15:12 -0000 Will post the informatin right after I install FreeBSD on the machine. By the way, here's a link to this motherboard on the manufacturer's website: http://www.asus.com/products/mb/socket478/p4p800/overview.htm Noor | -----Original Message----- | From: Soeren Schmidt [mailto:sos@spider.deepcore.dk]=20 | Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 9:00 AM | To: Wes Peters | Cc: Noor Dawod; FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List; sos@FreeBSD.ORG | Subject: Re: Boot problem on a P4P800-based computer |=20 |=20 | It seems Wes Peters wrote: | >On Thursday 05 June 2003 09:27, Noor Dawod wrote: | >> Hi all, | >> | >> The problem was solved! | >> This motherboard supports Serial ATA ports, and this=20 | option was ON in=20 | >> the BIOS. Turning it OFF, and adjusting the auto-detect=20 | mode in the=20 | >> BIOS, solved the problem. | >> | >> FreeBSD's probed the Serial ATA ports I guess and hanged there...=20 | >> Maybe one of the developers might want to add a check for=20 | serial ATA=20 | >> in the kernel in future releases... | > | >Glad you're up and running. | > | >Maybe Soren can shed some light on this. Soren, he's running 4.8=20 | >RELEASE and the boot probe seems to stick when he hits the onboard=20 | >S-ATA ports. Should this work in 4.8? |=20 | 4.x lacks support for alot of the newer chips out there,=20 | including most SATA parts (depends on model/vendor of cause). |=20 | However I need to know which chip this is to be certain,=20 | dmesg/pciconf -l output would be handy.. |=20 | -S=F8ren |=20 |=20 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 6 01:39:00 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 164F137B404 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 01:39:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from proxy.danet.lt (adsl-212-59-9-151.takas.lt [212.59.9.151]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1553D43FA3 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 01:38:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from baliuka@danet.lt) Received: from DANLTWS07 ([134.101.234.4]) by proxy.danet.lt (8.12.6p2/8.12.3) with SMTP id h568boKT010187 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 10:37:50 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from baliuka@danet.lt) Message-ID: <002d01c32c0f$90e7d570$04ea6586@DANLTWS07> From: "Pranas Baliuka" To: "'FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List'" References: <001b01c32c0c$203611f0$b655fea9@dawodhome> Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 11:39:46 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: IBM xSeries RAID Controlers X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 08:39:00 -0000 I am novice in HW. Dos FreeBSD suports IBM xSeries RAID Controlers? Thans for info From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 6 01:52:42 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A972B37B401 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 01:52:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cadillac.meteo.fr (cadillac.meteo.fr [137.129.1.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A569943F75 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 01:52:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from igor.pokrovsky@cnrm.meteo.fr) Received: from cti825.cnrm.meteo.fr (localhost.meteo.fr [127.0.0.1]) IAA13494 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 08:52:34 GMT Received: from xdata.cnrm.meteo.fr (xdata.cnrm.meteo.fr [137.129.150.2]) KAA01901; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 10:52:32 +0200 (MESTDST) Received: from exmatis1.cnrm.meteo.fr (exmatis1.cnrm.meteo.fr [137.129.157.46]) by xdata.cnrm.meteo.fr with ESMTP (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419)/8.7.1) id KAA21117; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 10:52:40 +0200 (METDST) Received: from exmatis1.cnrm.meteo.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h568pHPG024766; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 10:51:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pokrovsi@exmatis1.cnrm.meteo.fr) Received: (from pokrovsi@localhost) by exmatis1.cnrm.meteo.fr (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h568pGnC024765; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 10:51:16 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 10:51:15 +0200 From: Igor Pokrovsky To: Pranas Baliuka Message-ID: <20030606085115.GA24539@exmatis1.cnrm.meteo.fr> Mail-Followup-To: Igor Pokrovsky , Pranas Baliuka , 'FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List' References: <001b01c32c0c$203611f0$b655fea9@dawodhome> <002d01c32c0f$90e7d570$04ea6586@DANLTWS07> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <002d01c32c0f$90e7d570$04ea6586@DANLTWS07> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Accept-Language: ru X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1 (cti825/CNRM) Organization: METEO FRANCE(CNRM) cc: 'FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List' Subject: Re: IBM xSeries RAID Controlers X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Igor Pokrovsky List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 08:52:43 -0000 On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 11:39:46AM +0200, Pranas Baliuka wrote: > I am novice in HW. > Dos FreeBSD suports IBM xSeries RAID Controlers? Please see http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.8R/hardware.html -- Igor From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 6 01:53:46 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C433D37B405 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 01:53:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.droso.net (koala.droso.net [193.162.142.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0BF943FAF for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 01:53:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from erwin@mail.droso.net) Received: by mail.droso.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5A75732D0D; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 10:53:44 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 10:53:44 +0200 From: Erwin Lansing To: 'FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List' Message-ID: <20030606085344.GE22163@droso.net> Mail-Followup-To: 'FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List' References: <001b01c32c0c$203611f0$b655fea9@dawodhome> <002d01c32c0f$90e7d570$04ea6586@DANLTWS07> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="i0/AhcQY5QxfSsSZ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <002d01c32c0f$90e7d570$04ea6586@DANLTWS07> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD/i386 4.8-RC User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Subject: Re: IBM xSeries RAID Controlers X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 08:53:47 -0000 --i0/AhcQY5QxfSsSZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 11:39:46AM +0200, Pranas Baliuka wrote: > I am novice in HW. > Dos FreeBSD suports IBM xSeries RAID Controlers? >=20 Depends. The xSeries comes with a range of different controllers. Off the top of my head, the x330 comes with a IBM ServeRAID which wasn't supported a couple of months ago, but is now. The x335 comes with an LSI 1030 which works fine. The full list of supported controllers is at http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.8R/hardware-i386.html#AEN33 Cheers, -erwin --=20 _._ _,-'""`-._ Erwin Lansing (,-.`._,'( |\`-/| erwin@lansing.dk http://droso.org `-.-' \ )-`( , o o) erwin@FreeBSD.org -bf- `- \`_`"'- --i0/AhcQY5QxfSsSZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+4FaYqy9aWxUlaZARAhM5AKCdRRD804MZn7p5gc6QZIdhkCmo8ACg4K5l krbj5cC3ehz2NtzsuZjAao0= =tkuU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --i0/AhcQY5QxfSsSZ-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 6 02:18:26 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFAFC37B401 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 02:18:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailer.gwdg.de (mailer.gwdg.de [134.76.10.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9499143FB1 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 02:18:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from farrenkopf@mail.sub.uni-goettingen.de) Received: from mail.sub.uni-goettingen.de ([134.76.163.85]) by mailer.gwdg.de with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19ODMe-0008IN-KG; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 11:18:24 +0200 Received: from SUB1/SpoolDir by mail.sub.uni-goettingen.de (Mercury 1.48); 6 Jun 03 11:18:24 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by SUB1 (Mercury 1.48); 6 Jun 03 11:18:08 +0100 Received: from SUB00261.SUB.Uni-Goettingen.de (134.76.162.89) by mail.sub.uni-goettingen.de (Mercury 1.48) with ESMTP; 6 Jun 03 11:18:04 +0100 Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 11:18:04 +0200 From: Stefan Farrenkopf To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <28600000.1054891084@SUB00261.sub.uni-goettingen.de> In-Reply-To: <000501c32b1c$42bf5560$b655fea9@dawodhome> References: <000501c32b1c$42bf5560$b655fea9@dawodhome> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline cc: Noor Dawod Subject: RE: Sudden and unexplained reboots X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Stefan Farrenkopf List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 09:18:27 -0000 Hi Noor, maybe you installed anything new which loads additional kernel modules or did you make any other modifications to your kernel which influence networking? I had the same problem two days ago after I installed the vmware2 port on my FreeBSD desktop machine. The problem was obviously that some related kernel module is not compatible with the IPXrouted (and vice versa). Because I need the IPX routing daemon and I do not know how to track the problem down I removed vmware2 and the kernel module. cheers, STefan --On Thursday, June 05, 2003 06:37:55 +0200 Noor Dawod wrote: > Folks, > > After spending like an hour next to the server itself, I saw it crash > with a 'page fault' panic. All speculations about fans and CPU > over-heating is irrelevant as the server's cooling infrastructure is > working perfectly (2 fans for CPU, 2 fans for disks, 2 external fans, 2 > fans for the power supplies, and all are working.) > > The panic's details are as follows: > > Fatal trap 12 = page fault while in kernel mode > fault virtual address = 0xbfc407fc > fault code = supervisor write, page not present > instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc021d5e3 > stack pointer = 0x10:0xfbf8ae20 > frame pointer = 0x10:0xfbf8ae2c > code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b > DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 > processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 > current process = 45671 (ftpd) > interrupt mask = none > trap number = 12 > panic = page fault > > syncing disks... 56 2 > Done > Uptime: 51m35s > > > Anyone knows what the hell is going on? > By the way, is there a way to dump the panic's message to disk > automatically when a panic occurs? Is there a log somewhere when a panic > occurs? > > /Noor > > >| -----Original Message----- >| From: Charles Sprickman [mailto:spork@inch.com] >| Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 10:21 PM >| To: Don Lewis >| Cc: bmilekic@unixdaemons.com; freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; >| noor@comrax.com >| Subject: Re: Sudden and unexplained reboots >| >| >| On Wed, 4 Jun 2003, Don Lewis wrote: >| >| > I'd also check to make sure that all the fans are operational and >| > something isn't overheating. >| >| I ran into two boxes with the same bad CPU fans. Took a >| while to track it down. Symptoms were seemingly random >| reboots, but the reboots could be made to happen more often >| if the box was loaded up. If your BIOS has hardware >| monitoring, check the CPU fan RPMs there as well; one box had >| a fan that was spinning, but only at about 1000 RPM, which >| was not enough to keep the CPU in spec. >| >| Charles >| >| > _______________________________________________ >| > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list >| > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable >| > To unsubscribe, send any mail to >| > "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >| > >| > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" ........................................................... Stefan Farrenkopf - Goettingen State and University Library Platz der Goettinger Sieben 1 D-37070 Goettingen, Germany phone: +49(0)551-39-5827 || fax: +49(0)551-39-5222 ........................................................... PGP Public Key: http://www.gwdg.de/~sfarren/public-key.txt From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 6 02:38:23 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9528F37B401 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 02:38:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (mta03-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E88F43FAF for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 02:38:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scott@fishballoon.org) Received: from fishballoon.org ([81.104.195.199]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with ESMTP id <20030606093820.LOU11246.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@fishballoon.org>; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 10:38:20 +0100 Received: from tuatara.fishballoon.org (tuatara [192.168.1.6]) by fishballoon.org (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h569bc4o040938; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 10:37:38 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from scott@tuatara.fishballoon.org) Received: (from scott@localhost) by tuatara.fishballoon.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h569bbri002380; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 10:37:37 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from scott) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 10:37:37 +0100 From: Scott Mitchell To: Doug White Message-ID: <20030606093737.GA957@tuatara.fishballoon.org> References: <20030605194549.GD7355@tuatara.fishballoon.org> <20030605211016.F90750@carver.gumbysoft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030605211016.F90750@carver.gumbysoft.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE i386 cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: umass device support...how generic is it? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 09:38:23 -0000 On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 09:12:18PM -0700, Doug White wrote: > The umass device driver grabs anything that claims to be a mass storage > device class. The only time things need to be reported is if they need > quirks due to unusual behavior. If it just works, say no more. :) ... > It could use some clarification. it was written when USB devices were rare > and generally confined to use on the new Apple product called the iMac. > :-) :-) I'll put together a patch to the docs this weekend then. Something along the lines of "all these devices should work, and here's what you need to do when you find one that doesn't". Cheers, Scott -- =========================================================================== Scott Mitchell | PGP Key ID | "Eagles may soar, but weasels Cambridge, England | 0x54B171B9 | don't get sucked into jet engines" scott at fishballoon.org | 0xAA775B8B | -- Anon From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 6 02:48:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D001E37B401; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 02:48:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.firstcallgroup.co.uk (dilbert.firstcallgroup.co.uk [194.200.93.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D582643F3F; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 02:48:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pfrench@firstcallgroup.co.uk) Received: from pfrench by mailhost.firstcallgroup.co.uk with local (Exim 4.12) id 19ODq3-0009nP-00; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 10:48:47 +0100 To: dgw@liwest.at, rwatson@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200306052057.36601.dgw@liwest.at> Message-Id: From: Pete French Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 10:48:47 +0100 cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Server overloaded? Or is it a bug? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 09:48:53 -0000 > It asked me for the password, and then hanged. I guess it's something with the > processes, but the kern.maxproc sysctl is set to 4068, and I never have so > many processes. Ahhh... I've seen a server do that several times. In my case it was because a disc had locked up. So the machine runs fine, but anything which needs to access that disc would freeze - loginswouldnt work, the webserver would only serrve cached pages. Due to the fact BSD caches so much and does such a good job of it then it appears large chunks of the machine were running fine. In my case it turned out to be a wrongly configures SCSI bus (as shipped by Compaq!) -pcf. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 6 02:51:45 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4CF237B401 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 02:51:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.spod.org (opal.spod.org [195.92.99.99]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADDC543FAF for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 02:51:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yann@spod.org) Received: from yann by mail.spod.org with local (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19ODst-0002lL-00 for stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 10:51:43 +0100 Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 10:51:43 +0100 From: Yann Golanski To: stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030606095143.GA10549@kierun.org> References: <200306052057.36601.dgw@liwest.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Habeas-SWE-1: winter into spring X-Habeas-SWE-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-SWE-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 09:51:46 -0000 --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is there anywhere in stable/current that has support for 4:1 sound systems? --=20 yann@kierun.org -=3D*=3D- www.kierun.= org PGP: 009D 7287 C4A7 FD4F 1680 06E4 F751 7006 9DE2 6318 --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+4GQu91FwBp3iYxgRAp4GAKCbsDoTn44izYXouNPFvJoE9Vj8QACcCm+0 5MkkJ3eREt+eitLYgdUIJ+4= =kvwV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 6 03:21:55 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 801FD37B401 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 03:21:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from elanus.its.uu.se (Elanus.its.uu.se [130.238.4.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DAE043FA3 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 03:21:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from martin@gumucio.com) Received: from elanus (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 993E84AD2 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 12:21:52 +0200 (DFT) Received: from elanus.its.uu.se(127.0.0.1) by elanus.its.uu.se via virus-scan id s75789; Fri, 6 Jun 03 12:21:44 +0200 Received: from rollo (unknown [10.10.37.75]) by elanus.its.uu.se (Postfix) with SMTP id 84C0F4AD6 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 12:21:43 +0200 (DFT) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 12:22:21 +0200 From: Martin Gumucio To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20030606122221.6c358e98.martin@gumucio.com> In-Reply-To: <20030605194549.GD7355@tuatara.fishballoon.org> References: <20030605194549.GD7355@tuatara.fishballoon.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.10claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.7) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: umass device support...how generic is it? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 10:21:55 -0000 Hi there. I have a Sony Microvault (USM 128) that i would love to get to work on fbsd 4.8 stable. When i plug it in the following appears in messages Jun 6 12:07:25 rollo /kernel: umass0: Sony USB Storage Media, rev 1.10/2.00, addr 4 Jun 6 12:07:25 rollo /kernel: umass0: Get Max Lun not supported (SHORT_XFER) The poblem is that for some reason it doesn't connect it to da0. I am using an IDE cd-burner via scsi emulation and that works fine. Jun 6 08:53:21 rollo /kernel: cd0 at ata0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 I am also using an USB mouse without problems, so i guess its not related to usbd. Any clues would be greatly appreciated! // Martin Gumucio On Thu, 5 Jun 2003 20:45:49 +0100 Scott Mitchell wrote: > Is there any point in reporting specific devices that work > with umass(4) any more, or is the assumption these days > that anything that will work on a Windows or Linux box, > without additional drivers, will also work on FreeBSD? > The cheapo 'pen drive' that I picked up on ebay yesterday > surprised me by just working, with no pain whatsoever... > I'm wondering if maybe I shouldn't be so surprised by > these small victories :-) > > If it is true that pretty much everything just works, the > manpage and hardware list should probably be updated -- > right now the manpage gives the impression that only a few > devices are supported. I'll put together a PR unless > someone in the know tells me I'm totally wrong about this. > > Scott > > -- > ========================================================= > ================== Scott Mitchell | PGP Key ID | > "Eagles may soar, but weasels Cambridge, England | > 0x54B171B9 | don't get sucked into jet engines" scott at > fishballoon.org | 0xAA775B8B | -- > Anon_______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- __________________________ Martin Gumucio +46-737-258109 Get my public key from http://tempo.update.uu.se/~twq/public.txt From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 6 06:32:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7A5437B401 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 06:32:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [64.117.225.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FEF943F93 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 06:32:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (unknown [64.117.225.220]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3B306BD357 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 10:31:54 -0300 (ADT) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 10:31:39 -0300 (ADT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030606102629.F3140@hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: fxp0: device timeout X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 13:32:08 -0000 Morning all ... I saw the previous thread, and ignorantly didn't follow it ... and now I can't seem to find it in the archives to go through it now that its hit me ... This morning, after 5 days of uptime, my server got hit with: Jun 6 09:52:19 pluto /kernel: fxp0: device timeout Jun 6 09:52:19 pluto /kernel: fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x60 0x0 0x0 0x800 Jun 6 09:52:19 pluto /kernel: fxp0: DMA timeout Jun 6 09:52:19 pluto last message repeated 2 times Jun 6 09:52:19 pluto /kernel: fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x10 0x0 0x80 0x800 Jun 6 09:52:19 pluto /kernel: fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x10 0x0 0x80 0x800 Jun 6 09:52:33 pluto /kernel: fxp0: device timeout Now, previous to this, I got a bunch of 'resource errors': Jun 6 08:31:33 pluto 5433[5736]: [7] ERROR: Cannot insert a duplicate key into unique index trackip_idx Jun 6 08:33:23 pluto sendmail[5772]: h56BX2cm005772: SYSERR(root): doworklist: cannot fork: Resource temporarily unavailable Jun 6 08:34:11 pluto sendmail[148]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(root): daemon: cannot fork: Resource temporarily unavailable Jun 6 08:34:36 pluto sendmail[148]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(root): daemon: cannot fork: Resource temporarily unavailable Jun 6 08:36:33 pluto last message repeated 2 times Jun 6 08:46:36 pluto last message repeated 29 times Jun 6 08:56:13 pluto last message repeated 20 times Jun 6 09:03:00 pluto last message repeated 16 times Jun 6 09:03:06 pluto sshd[139]: error: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable Jun 6 09:03:16 pluto sshd[139]: error: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable The problem is, what 'Resource' is unavailable? I have maxproc set to ~6k right now, and 'normal system' runs with <1k ... I'm suspecting that the two are related somehow ... ? From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 6 12:05:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29D2837B4E8 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 12:05:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.speedroad.net (trance.speedroad.net [195.139.232.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7549743FB1 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 12:05:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from arnvid@karstad.org) Received: (qmail 8465 invoked by uid 89); 6 Jun 2003 19:03:30 -0000 Received: from freelight.isd.no (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (195.139.232.120) by mail.speedroad.net with SMTP; 6 Jun 2003 19:03:30 -0000 Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 21:02:45 +0200 From: Arnvid Karstad To: Erwin Lansing Organization: Int In-Reply-To: <20030606085344.GE22163@droso.net> References: <002d01c32c0f$90e7d570$04ea6586@DANLTWS07> <20030606085344.GE22163@droso.net> Message-Id: <20030606205205.B1BC.ARNVID@karstad.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.05.06 cc: 'FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List' Subject: Re[2]: IBM xSeries RAID Controlers X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 19:05:20 -0000 On Fri, 6 Jun 2003 10:53:44 +0200 - Erwin Lansing wrote: > On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 11:39:46AM +0200, Pranas Baliuka wrote: > > I am novice in HW. > > Dos FreeBSD suports IBM xSeries RAID Controlers? > Depends. The xSeries comes with a range of different controllers. Off > the top of my head, the x330 comes with a IBM ServeRAID which wasn't > supported a couple of months ago, but is now. The x335 comes with an LSI > 1030 which works fine. The full list of supported controllers is at > http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.8R/hardware-i386.html#AEN33 The internal LSI controler in 335, 345's and BladeCenters (and similars) are not IBM ServeRaid controlleres. The ServeRAID controllers are supported in FreeBSD 5.1 thru the new ips driver. Altho it seems that some of the newer ServeRAID cards actually have LSI chipsets the driver is now maintained by adaptec iirc. Med vennlig hilsen/Best regards, Arnvid L. Karstad From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 6 12:08:38 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BB7337B404 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 12:08:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.speedroad.net (trance.speedroad.net [195.139.232.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6A83943FDD for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 12:08:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from arnvid@karstad.org) Received: (qmail 8619 invoked by uid 89); 6 Jun 2003 19:06:51 -0000 Received: from freelight.isd.no (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (195.139.232.120) by mail.speedroad.net with SMTP; 6 Jun 2003 19:06:51 -0000 Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 21:06:06 +0200 From: Arnvid Karstad To: Arnvid Karstad Organization: Int In-Reply-To: <20030606205205.B1BC.ARNVID@karstad.org> References: <20030606085344.GE22163@droso.net> <20030606205205.B1BC.ARNVID@karstad.org> Message-Id: <20030606210601.B1C2.ARNVID@karstad.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.05.06 cc: 'FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List' cc: Erwin Lansing Subject: Re[3]: IBM xSeries RAID Controlers X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 19:08:38 -0000 On Fri, 06 Jun 2003 21:02:45 +0200 - Arnvid Karstad wrote: > The internal LSI controler in 335, 345's and BladeCenters (and > similars) are not IBM ServeRaid controlleres. The ServeRAID controllers > are supported in FreeBSD 5.1 thru the new ips driver. Altho it seems > that some of the newer ServeRAID cards actually have LSI chipsets the > driver is now maintained by adaptec iirc. And then again one could read the original question. hehe Arnvid From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 6 12:19:23 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C661037B401 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 12:19:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aurora.peterson.ath.cx (12-254-245-65.client.attbi.com [12.254.245.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F5DB43F93 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 12:19:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jlp@softhome.net) Received: from peterson.ath.cx (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aurora.peterson.ath.cx (Postfix) with ESMTP id E794BC5303 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 13:19:15 -0600 (MDT) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.6.3 04/04/2003 with nmh-1.0.4 From: "Jan L. Peterson" X-message-flag: "Outlook not so good." Wow, that magic 8-ball really DOES work! To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-face: p=61=y<.Il$z+k*y~"j>%c[8R~8{j3WTnaSd-'RyC>t.Ub>AAm\zYA#5JF +W=G?EI+|EI);]=fs_MOfKN0n9`OlmB[1^0;L^64K5][nOb&gv/n}p@mm06|J|WNa asp7mMEw0w)e_6T~7v-\]yHKvI^1}[2k)] References: <20030605194549.GD7355@tuatara.fishballoon.org> <20030606122221.6c358e98.martin@gumucio.com> In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 06 Jun 2003 12:22:21 +0200." <20030606122221.6c358e98.martin@gumucio.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 13:19:15 -0600 Message-Id: <20030606191915.E794BC5303@aurora.peterson.ath.cx> Subject: Re: umass device support...how generic is it? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 19:19:24 -0000 I have a device that I'd like to get working, too... it's a Sony Clie SJ-30. Now, you're thinking "that's a PDA"... but the Clie comes with an application (MS Import) that lets you access the memory stick as though it were a mass storage device. (I have not been able to get syncing to work via USB, either, but that's a separate problem.) When I run MS Import on the Clie, I get this logged: umass0: Sony Sony PEG Mass Storage, rev 1.10/1.00, addr 2 (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0 (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): NOT READY asc:3a,0 (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Medium not present umass0: at uhub0 port 1 (addr 2) disconnected umass0: detached and usbdevs -v says this: Controller /dev/usb0: addr 1: self powered, config 1, UHCI root hub(0x0000), Intel(0x0000), rev 1.00 port 1 addr 2: self powered, config 1, Sony PEG Mass Storage(0x006d), Sony(0x054c), rev 1.00 port 2 powered Now, that "NOT READY" kind of throws me... I suspect that's the problem. When using MS Import and accessing a windows machine, you have to also install the special "MS Export" application on the windows machine. I have no idea what it does (I don't run windows). Word on various Clie mailing lists is that it "just works" on Linux, but I don't run that, either. Relevant OS info: FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE Any ideas? I'm about to try a test installation of 5.1-RC1 on a different partition on this box, and will test the Clie support with that, also, but I'd like to know if there's a reason why it doesn't work already (and a solution like "upgrade to 4.8-STABLE"). -jan- -- Jan L. Peterson Unemployed "Computer Facilitator" http://www.peterson.ath.cx/~jlp/resume.html From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 6 14:23:53 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D90CD37B401 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 14:23:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.bsdtech.com (tromso-dhcp-235-148.bluecom.no [62.101.235.148]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 02E7A43FBF for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 14:23:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from erik@pentadon.com) Received: (qmail 1171 invoked by uid 85); 6 Jun 2003 23:24:31 -0000 Received: from erik@pentadon.com by oxylon.pentadon.com by uid 92 with qmail-scanner-1.16 (spamassassin: 2.55. Clear:. Processed in 0.03699 secs); 06 Jun 2003 23:24:31 -0000 Received: from tromso-dhcp-234-175.bluecom.no (HELO eps) (62.101.234.175) by tromso-dhcp-235-148.bluecom.no with SMTP; 6 Jun 2003 23:24:31 -0000 From: "Erik Paulsen Skaalerud" To: Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 23:23:48 +0200 Message-ID: <003301c32c71$eb84c760$0a00000a@eps> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Subject: Problems building RELENG_4_8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 21:23:54 -0000 On a 4.8-PRERELEASE, I have cvsup'ed my sources to the latest RELENG_4_8. While doing buildworld, I get this: cc -c -O -pipe -fexceptions -DIN_GCC -D_PTHREADS -DGTHREAD_USE_WEAK -I/usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/config -I/usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc -I. -DL_pure -o _pure.o /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/libgcc2.c c++ -c -O -pipe -fexceptions -DIN_GCC -D_PTHREADS -DGTHREAD_USE_WEAK -I/usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/config -I/usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc -I. -I/usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/cp/inc -nostdinc++ -DL_op_new -o _op_new.o /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/cp/new1.cc /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/cp/new1.cc: In function `void * operator new(unsigned int)': /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/cp/new1.cc:88: Internal compiler error. /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/cp/new1.cc:88: Please submit a full bug report. /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/cp/new1.cc:88: See for instructions. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc. *** Error code 1 Any ideas? Erik. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 6 19:37:37 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0338237B404 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 19:37:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pyroxene.sentex.ca (pyroxene.sentex.ca [199.212.134.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFC1C43F75 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 19:37:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from simian.sentex.net (simeon.sentex.ca [192.168.43.27]) by pyroxene.sentex.ca (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h572bX8D056742; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 22:37:33 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20030606222952.05d4c6d0@209.112.4.2> X-Sender: mdtpop@209.112.4.2 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 22:37:17 -0400 To: stable@freebsd.org From: Mike Tancsa Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: By Sentex Communications (lava/20020517) Subject: crash in networking code (with bt and debug kernel) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 02:37:37 -0000 While I was tying down a supernet to the discard interface, the box crashed on me. Its a STABLE box from June 4th. I was in zebra at the time and thought I would route a /24 to ds0 instead of to the IP on ds0 (which I had done for a number of other aggregate routes). The only other "strange" thing about the box is that ds0 is loaded via kld. I will see if I can reproduce it on a non production box. ---Mike IdlePTD at phsyical address 0x0032e000 initial pcb at physical address 0x002a3d80 panicstr: page fault panic messages: --- Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x4 fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc019a569 stack pointer = 0x10:0xdf0b1d28 frame pointer = 0x10:0xdf0b1d34 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 2528 (zebra) interrupt mask = trap number = 12 panic: page fault (kgdb) where #0 dumpsys () at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:487 #1 0xc0150bec in boot (howto=256) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:316 #2 0xc0151020 in poweroff_wait (junk=0xc02794ec, howto=-1071149073) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:595 #3 0xc0242283 in trap_fatal (frame=0xdf0b1ce8, eva=4) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:974 #4 0xc0241f3d in trap_pfault (frame=0xdf0b1ce8, usermode=0, eva=4) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:867 #5 0xc0241b13 in trap (frame={tf_fs = -1041694704, tf_es = -1040056304, tf_ds = -1071120368, tf_edi = -1010457600, tf_esi = -1039998416, tf_ebp = -552919756, tf_isp = -552919788, tf_ebx = 0, tf_edx = -1010457600, tf_ecx = 1, tf_eax = 0, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 0, tf_eip = -1072061079, tf_cs = 8, tf_eflags = 66118, tf_esp = -552919644, tf_ss = -1040745984}) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:466 #6 0xc019a569 in arp_rtrequest (req=1, rt=0xc3c5a400, info=0xdf0b1da4) at /usr/src/sys/netinet/if_ether.c:186 #7 0xc01980be in rtrequest1 (req=1, info=0xdf0b1da4, ret_nrt=0xdf0b1da0) at /usr/src/sys/net/route.c:750 #8 0xc0198b21 in route_output (m=0xc11ae200, so=0xdd8e5080) at /usr/src/sys/net/rtsock.c:341 #9 0xc01974ee in raw_usend (so=0xdd8e5080, flags=0, m=0xc11ae200, nam=0x0, control=0x0, p=0xdf0bfc60) at /usr/src/sys/net/raw_usrreq.c:258 #10 0xc01988b0 in rts_send (so=0xdd8e5080, flags=0, m=0xc11ae200, nam=0x0, control=0x0, p=0xdf0bfc60) at /usr/src/sys/net/rtsock.c:236 #11 0xc017042f in sosend (so=0xdd8e5080, addr=0x0, uio=0xdf0b1ee0, top=0xc11ae200, control=0x0, flags=0, p=0xdf0bfc60) at /usr/src/sys/kern/uipc_socket.c:609 #12 0xc0163876 in soo_write (fp=0xc1fe1a40, uio=0xdf0b1ee0, cred=0xc1fb3d80, flags=0, p=0xdf0bfc60) at /usr/src/sys/kern/sys_socket.c:81 #13 0xc0160342 in dofilewrite (p=0xdf0bfc60, fp=0xc1fe1a40, fd=5, buf=0xbfbff298, nbyte=128, offset=-1, flags=0) at /usr/src/sys/sys/file.h:163 #14 0xc01601f3 in write (p=0xdf0bfc60, uap=0xdf0b1f80) at /usr/src/sys/kern/sys_generic.c:329 #15 0xc02424e9 in syscall2 (frame={tf_fs = 47, tf_es = -1078001617, tf_ds = -1078001617, tf_edi = 128, tf_esi = 134902316, tf_ebp = -1077938912, tf_isp = -552919084, tf_ebx = 16, tf_edx = -1077939560, tf_ecx = 0, tf_eax = 4, tf_trapno = 7, tf_err = 2, tf_eip = 673833116, tf_cs = 31, tf_eflags = 663, tf_esp = -1077939612, tf_ss = 47}) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:1175 #16 0xc0236595 in Xint0x80_syscall () #17 0x8069138 in ?? () #18 0x8069187 in ?? () #19 0x804fea2 in ?? () #20 0x80500bf in ?? () #21 0x80507bb in ?? () #22 0x8050b16 in ?? () #23 0x80543b7 in ?? () #24 0x805440a in ?? () #25 0x805d913 in ?? () #26 0x8058324 in ?? () #27 0x8059539 in ?? () #28 0x8059989 in ?? () #29 0x8061456 in ?? () #30 0x804c929 in ?? () #31 0x8049c3e in ?? () (kgdb) list 482 dumpsys(void) 483 { 484 int error; 485 486 savectx(&dumppcb); 487 if (dumping++) { 488 printf("Dump already in progress, bailing...\n"); 489 return; 490 } 491 if (!dodump) (kgdb) up 1 #1 0xc0150bec in boot (howto=256) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:316 316 dumpsys(); (kgdb) list 311 * been completed. 312 */ 313 EVENTHANDLER_INVOKE(shutdown_post_sync, howto); 314 splhigh(); 315 if ((howto & (RB_HALT|RB_DUMP)) == RB_DUMP && !cold) 316 dumpsys(); 317 318 /* Now that we're going to really halt the system... */ 319 EVENTHANDLER_INVOKE(shutdown_final, howto); 320 (kgdb) up #2 0xc0151020 in poweroff_wait (junk=0xc02794ec, howto=-1071149073) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:595 595 boot(bootopt); (kgdb) list 590 591 #if defined(DDB) 592 if (debugger_on_panic) 593 Debugger ("panic"); 594 #endif 595 boot(bootopt); 596 } 597 598 /* 599 * Support for poweroff delay. (kgdb) up 1 #3 0xc0242283 in trap_fatal (frame=0xdf0b1ce8, eva=4) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:974 974 panic("%s", trap_msg[type]); (kgdb) list 969 if ((debugger_on_panic || db_active) && kdb_trap(type, 0, frame)) 970 return; 971 #endif 972 printf("trap number = %d\n", type); 973 if (type <= MAX_TRAP_MSG) 974 panic("%s", trap_msg[type]); 975 else 976 panic("unknown/reserved trap"); 977 } 978 (kgdb) up 1 #4 0xc0241f3d in trap_pfault (frame=0xdf0b1ce8, usermode=0, eva=4) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:867 867 trap_fatal(frame, eva); (kgdb) list 862 if (!usermode) { 863 if (intr_nesting_level == 0 && curpcb && curpcb->pcb_onfault) { 864 frame->tf_eip = (int)curpcb->pcb_onfault; 865 return (0); 866 } 867 trap_fatal(frame, eva); 868 return (-1); 869 } 870 871 /* kludge to pass faulting virtual address to sendsig */ (kgdb) up 1 #5 0xc0241b13 in trap (frame={tf_fs = -1041694704, tf_es = -1040056304, tf_ds = -1071120368, tf_edi = -1010457600, tf_esi = -1039998416, tf_ebp = -552919756, tf_isp = -552919788, tf_ebx = 0, tf_edx = -1010457600, tf_ecx = 1, tf_eax = 0, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 0, tf_eip = -1072061079, tf_cs = 8, tf_eflags = 66118, tf_esp = -552919644, tf_ss = -1040745984}) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:466 466 (void) trap_pfault(&frame, FALSE, eva); (kgdb) list 461 kernel_trap: 462 /* kernel trap */ 463 464 switch (type) { 465 case T_PAGEFLT: /* page fault */ 466 (void) trap_pfault(&frame, FALSE, eva); 467 return; 468 469 case T_DNA: 470 #if NNPX > 0 (kgdb) up 1 #6 0xc019a569 in arp_rtrequest (req=1, rt=0xc3c5a400, info=0xdf0b1da4) at /usr/src/sys/netinet/if_ether.c:186 186 if ((rt->rt_flags & RTF_HOST) == 0 && (kgdb) list 181 /* 182 * XXX: If this is a manually added route to interface 183 * such as older version of routed or gated might provide, 184 * restore cloning bit. 185 */ 186 if ((rt->rt_flags & RTF_HOST) == 0 && 187 SIN(rt_mask(rt))->sin_addr.s_addr != 0xffffffff) 188 rt->rt_flags |= RTF_CLONING; 189 if (rt->rt_flags & RTF_CLONING) { 190 /* (kgdb) -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications, mike@sentex.net Providing Internet since 1994 www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 6 20:18:37 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19F9137B401 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 20:18:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from carver.gumbysoft.com (carver.gumbysoft.com [66.220.23.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A936443F3F for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 20:18:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gumbysoft.com) Received: by carver.gumbysoft.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 952A072FDC; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 20:18:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by carver.gumbysoft.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9225B72FD1; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 20:18:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 20:18:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: "Jan L. Peterson" In-Reply-To: <20030606191915.E794BC5303@aurora.peterson.ath.cx> Message-ID: <20030606201658.U3493@carver.gumbysoft.com> References: <20030605194549.GD7355@tuatara.fishballoon.org> <20030606191915.E794BC5303@aurora.peterson.ath.cx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: umass device support...how generic is it? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 03:18:37 -0000 On Fri, 6 Jun 2003, Jan L. Peterson wrote: > When I run MS Import on the Clie, I get this logged: > > umass0: Sony Sony PEG Mass Storage, rev 1.10/1.00, addr 2 > (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0 > (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): NOT READY asc:3a,0 > (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Medium not present > umass0: at uhub0 port 1 (addr 2) disconnected > umass0: detached Its attempting to figure out how big the Mass Storage is and it returns an error. You could try using some of the same Memory Stick quirks currently in the code; they usually override the command protocol. It might be the auto-selected protocol doesn't work right. -- Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@gumbysoft.com | www.FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 6 20:19:54 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80FF337B401 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 20:19:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from carver.gumbysoft.com (carver.gumbysoft.com [66.220.23.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2199843FA3 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 20:19:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@gumbysoft.com) Received: by carver.gumbysoft.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0FAE672FE0; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 20:19:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by carver.gumbysoft.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E63F72FDC; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 20:19:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 20:19:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: Martin Gumucio In-Reply-To: <20030606122221.6c358e98.martin@gumucio.com> Message-ID: <20030606201840.L3493@carver.gumbysoft.com> References: <20030605194549.GD7355@tuatara.fishballoon.org> <20030606122221.6c358e98.martin@gumucio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: umass device support...how generic is it? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 03:19:54 -0000 On Fri, 6 Jun 2003, Martin Gumucio wrote: > When i plug it in the following appears in messages > > Jun 6 12:07:25 rollo /kernel: umass0: Sony USB Storage > Media, rev 1.10/2.00, addr 4 > Jun 6 12:07:25 rollo /kernel: > umass0: Get Max Lun not supported (SHORT_XFER) Hm, that shouldn't be fatal. does 'camcontrol rescan' seem to resurrect it? (you'll have to find the bus number, if your system isn't SCSI its proably 0.) It might need the same quirks as the memory stick readers. -- Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@gumbysoft.com | www.FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 7 05:06:51 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8FF537B401; Sat, 7 Jun 2003 05:06:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org (triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.org [192.58.184.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F32AB43FB1; Sat, 7 Jun 2003 05:06:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: from triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h57C6oWj035265; Sat, 7 Jun 2003 08:06:50 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: (from des@localhost) by triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h57C6nof035264; Sat, 7 Jun 2003 12:06:49 GMT Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 12:06:49 GMT Message-Id: <200306071206.h57C6nof035264@triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org> X-Authentication-Warning: triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org: des set sender to Tinderbox using -f Sender: Tinderbox From: Tinderbox To: stable@freebsd.org, i386@freebsd.org Subject: [-STABLE tinderbox] failure on i386/pc98 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 12:06:52 -0000 TB --- 2003-06-07 10:15:28 - starting RELENG_4 tinderbox run for i386/pc98 TB --- 2003-06-07 10:15:28 - checking out the source tree TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98 TB --- /usr/bin/cvs -f -R -q -d/home/ncvs update -Pd -rRELENG_4 src TB --- 2003-06-07 11:13:18 - building world TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/src TB --- /usr/bin/make -B buildworld >>> Rebuilding the temporary build tree >>> stage 1: bootstrap tools >>> stage 2: cleaning up the object tree >>> stage 2: rebuilding the object tree >>> stage 2: build tools >>> stage 3: cross tools >>> stage 4: populating /home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/obj/pc98/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/src/i386/usr/include >>> stage 4: building libraries >>> stage 4: make dependencies >>> stage 4: building everything.. [...] ar cr /home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/obj/pc98/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/POSIX/lib/auto/DynaLoader/DynaLoader.a DynaLoader.o && : /home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/obj/pc98/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/POSIX/lib/auto/DynaLoader/DynaLoader.a chmod 755 /home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/obj/pc98/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/POSIX/lib/auto/DynaLoader/DynaLoader.a cp POSIX.pod /home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/obj/pc98/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/POSIX/build/POSIX/POSIX.pod cp POSIX.pm /home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/obj/pc98/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/POSIX/build/POSIX/POSIX.pm AutoSplitting /home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/obj/pc98/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/POSIX/build/POSIX/POSIX.pm (/home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/obj/pc98/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/POSIX/build/POSIX/auto/POSIX) /home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/obj/pc98/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/POSIX/../../miniperl/miniperl -I/home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/obj/pc98/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/POSIX/lib -I/home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/obj/pc98/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/POSIX/lib /home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/obj/pc98/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/POSIX/lib/ExtUtils/xsubpp -noprototypes -typemap /home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/obj/pc98/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/POSIX/lib/ExtUtils/typemap -typemap typemap POSIX.xs >xstmp.c && mv xstmp.c POSIX.c cc -c -DSTRUCT_TM_HASZONE -DVERSION=\"1.02\" -DXS_VERSION=\"1.02\" -DPIC -fpic -I/home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/obj/pc98/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/POSIX -DPERL_CORE POSIX.c cc1: /tmp/cc6jp99y.s: I/O error *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/obj/pc98/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/POSIX/ext/POSIX. *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/POSIX. *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library. *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl. *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/src/gnu/usr.bin. *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/src/gnu. *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/src. TB --- 2003-06-07 12:06:49 - /usr/bin/make returned exit code 1 TB --- 2003-06-07 12:06:49 - ERROR: failed to build world TB --- 2003-06-07 12:06:49 - tinderbox aborted From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 7 07:47:01 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0882C37B401 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2003 07:47:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web20506.mail.yahoo.com (web20506.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E9DAD43F93 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2003 07:46:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michael.price@computer.org) Message-ID: <20030607144659.71013.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.8.14.61] by web20506.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 07 Jun 2003 07:46:59 PDT X-RocketYMMF: malus42 Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 07:46:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Price To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0-1122916728-1054997219=:70934" Subject: FFS related panic in 4.8-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: michael.price@computer.org List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 14:47:01 -0000 --0-1122916728-1054997219=:70934 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Id: Content-Disposition: inline Every few days now I get a panic like the one shown in the attached backtrace. I've made sure my filesystem is clean with fsck and even turned off write caching on my IDE drive. Maybe someone here can figure out what is wrong. Let me know if you need more information. Michael --0-1122916728-1054997219=:70934 Content-Type: text/plain; name="dump.txt" Content-Description: dump.txt Content-Disposition: inline; filename="dump.txt" root@taco /usr/src/sys/compile/ZOE> gdb -k -c /opt/savecore/vmcore.0 /opt/savecore/kernel.0 GNU gdb 4.18 (FreeBSD) Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i386-unknown-freebsd"...Deprecated bfd_read called at /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/gdb/../../../../contrib/gdb/gdb/dbxread.c line 2627 in elfstab_build_psymtabs Deprecated bfd_read called at /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/gdb/../../../../contrib/gdb/gdb/dbxread.c line 933 in fill_symbuf IdlePTD at phsyical address 0x005bf000 initial pcb at physical address 0x004dbb00 panicstr: lockmgr: locking against myself panic messages: --- panic: ffs_alloccg: map corrupted syncing disks... 145 111 102 41 37 31 31 31 31 31 31 31 panic: lockmgr: locking against myself Uptime: 2d9h18m37s dumping to dev #ad/0x30031, offset 4718752 dump ata3: resetting devices .. done 767 766 765 764 763 762 761 760 759 758 757 756 755 754 753 752 751 750 749 748 747 746 745 744 743 742 741 740 739 738 737 736 735 734 733 732 731 730 729 728 727 726 725 724 723 722 721 720 719 718 717 716 715 714 713 712 711 710 709 708 707 706 705 704 703 702 701 700 699 698 697 696 695 694 693 692 691 690 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flags=33620002, interlkp=0xc04f5be4, p=0xdfab4440) at ../../kern/kern_lock.c:337 #4 0xc025e010 in getblk (vp=0xde97cb40, blkno=41922624, size=16384, slpflag=0, slptimeo=0) at ../../sys/buf.h:305 #5 0xc025c16e in bread (vp=0xde97cb40, blkno=41922624, size=16384, cred=0x0, bpp=0xdfb05a7c) at ../../kern/vfs_bio.c:510 #6 0xc033901c in ffs_blkfree (ip=0xdfb05aa8, bno=10486952, size=16384) at ../../ufs/ffs/ffs_alloc.c:1424 #7 0xc033cb4d in handle_workitem_freefrag (freefrag=0xc47a58a0) at ../../ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c:1494 #8 0xc033bd2f in process_worklist_item (matchmnt=0x0, flags=0) at ../../ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c:730 #9 0xc033bbae in softdep_process_worklist (matchmnt=0x0) at ../../ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c:622 #10 0xc023663d in boot (howto=256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:261 #11 0xc0236c04 in poweroff_wait (junk=0xc043ce1f, howto=-1069298176) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:595 #12 0xc03397c4 in ffs_mapsearch (fs=0xc2fcd800, cgp=0xd4a1f000, bpref=10480648, allocsiz=6) at ../../ufs/ffs/ffs_alloc.c:1669 #13 0xc0338442 in ffs_alloccg (ip=0xc3b56b00, cg=115, bpref=10480648, ---Type to continue, or q to quit--- size=4096) at ../../ufs/ffs/ffs_alloc.c:1044 #14 0xc0337f83 in ffs_hashalloc (ip=0xc3b56b00, cg=115, pref=10480648, size=4096, allocator=0xc0338244 ) at ../../ufs/ffs/ffs_alloc.c:863 #15 0xc0337105 in ffs_alloc (ip=0xc3b56b00, lbn=0, bpref=10480648, size=4096, cred=0xc42fe400, bnp=0xdfb05d70) at ../../ufs/ffs/ffs_alloc.c:142 #16 0xc0339f32 in ffs_balloc (ap=0xdfb05e2c) at ../../ufs/ffs/ffs_balloc.c:167 #17 0xc03438c9 in ffs_write (ap=0xdfb05e64) at vnode_if.h:1056 #18 0xc026bb5e in vn_write (fp=0xc35e9600, uio=0xdfb05ed4, cred=0xc42fe400, flags=0, p=0xdfab4440) at vnode_if.h:363 #19 0xc024591d in dofilewrite (p=0xdfab4440, fp=0xc35e9600, fd=4, buf=0x80616b8, nbyte=2587, offset=-1, flags=0) at ../../sys/file.h:163 #20 0xc02457d6 in write (p=0xdfab4440, uap=0xdfb05f80) at ../../kern/sys_generic.c:329 #21 0xc03cde45 in syscall2 (frame={tf_fs = 47, tf_es = 47, tf_ds = 47, tf_edi = 134592117, tf_esi = 0, tf_ebp = -1077939568, tf_isp = -542089260, tf_ebx = -1077939524, tf_edx = 134616760, tf_ecx = 2587, tf_eax = 4, tf_trapno = 7, tf_err = 2, tf_eip = 885226472, tf_cs = 31, tf_eflags = 659, tf_esp = -1077939628, tf_ss = 47}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:1175 #22 0xc03bf4c5 in Xint0x80_syscall () #23 0x8050f5a in ?? 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() (kgdb) quit --0-1122916728-1054997219=:70934-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 7 10:41:28 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E35237B401; Sat, 7 Jun 2003 10:41:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org (triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.org [192.58.184.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAC1B43F93; Sat, 7 Jun 2003 10:41:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: from triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h57HfQWj029573; Sat, 7 Jun 2003 13:41:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: (from des@localhost) by triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h57HfQJu029572; Sat, 7 Jun 2003 17:41:26 GMT Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 17:41:26 GMT Message-Id: <200306071741.h57HfQJu029572@triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org> X-Authentication-Warning: triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org: des set sender to Tinderbox using -f Sender: Tinderbox From: Tinderbox To: stable@freebsd.org, alpha@freebsd.org Subject: [-STABLE tinderbox] failure on alpha/alpha X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 17:41:28 -0000 TB --- 2003-06-07 16:00:14 - starting RELENG_4 tinderbox run for alpha/alpha TB --- 2003-06-07 16:00:14 - checking out the source tree TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/alpha/alpha TB --- /usr/bin/cvs -f -R -q -d/home/ncvs update -Pd -rRELENG_4 src TB --- 2003-06-07 17:09:47 - building world TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/alpha/alpha/src TB --- /usr/bin/make -B buildworld >>> Rebuilding the temporary build tree >>> stage 1: bootstrap tools >>> stage 2: cleaning up the object tree >>> stage 2: rebuilding the object tree >>> stage 2: build tools >>> stage 3: cross tools >>> stage 4: populating /home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/alpha/alpha/obj/alpha/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/alpha/alpha/src/i386/usr/include >>> stage 4: building libraries >>> stage 4: make dependencies >>> stage 4: building everything.. [...] cp B/Disassembler.pm /home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/alpha/alpha/obj/alpha/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/alpha/alpha/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/B/build/B/B/Disassembler.pm cp B/disassemble /home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/alpha/alpha/obj/alpha/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/alpha/alpha/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/B/build/B/B/disassemble cp B/assemble /home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/alpha/alpha/obj/alpha/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/alpha/alpha/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/B/build/B/B/assemble cp B/Terse.pm /home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/alpha/alpha/obj/alpha/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/alpha/alpha/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/B/build/B/B/Terse.pm cp B/C.pm /home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/alpha/alpha/obj/alpha/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/alpha/alpha/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/B/build/B/B/C.pm /home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/alpha/alpha/obj/alpha/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/alpha/alpha/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/B/../../miniperl/miniperl -I/home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/alpha/alpha/obj/alpha/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/alpha/alpha/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/B/lib -I/home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/alpha/alpha/obj/alpha/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/alpha/alpha/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/B/lib /home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/alpha/alpha/obj/alpha/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/alpha/alpha/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/B/lib/ExtUtils/xsubpp -typemap /home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/alpha/alpha/obj/alpha/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/alpha/alpha/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/B/lib/ExtUtils/typemap -typemap typemap B.xs >xstmp.c && mv xstmp.c B.c cc -c -DVERSION=\"a5\" -DXS_VERSION=\"a5\" -DPIC -fpic -I/home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/alpha/alpha/obj/alpha/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/alpha/alpha/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/B -DPERL_CORE B.c cpp0: /tmp/ccW6ieGp.i: No space left on device *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/alpha/alpha/obj/alpha/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/alpha/alpha/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/B/ext/B. *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/alpha/alpha/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/B. *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/alpha/alpha/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library. *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/alpha/alpha/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl. *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/alpha/alpha/src/gnu/usr.bin. *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/alpha/alpha/src/gnu. *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/alpha/alpha/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/alpha/alpha/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/alpha/alpha/src. TB --- 2003-06-07 17:41:26 - /usr/bin/make returned exit code 1 TB --- 2003-06-07 17:41:26 - ERROR: failed to build world TB --- 2003-06-07 17:41:26 - tinderbox aborted From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 7 11:46:21 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C026737B401; Sat, 7 Jun 2003 11:46:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org (triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.org [192.58.184.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBA4B43F93; Sat, 7 Jun 2003 11:46:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: from triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h57IkJWj061982; Sat, 7 Jun 2003 14:46:20 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: (from des@localhost) by triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h57IkJoo061981; Sat, 7 Jun 2003 18:46:19 GMT Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 18:46:19 GMT Message-Id: <200306071846.h57IkJoo061981@triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org> X-Authentication-Warning: triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org: des set sender to Tinderbox using -f Sender: Tinderbox From: Tinderbox To: stable@freebsd.org, i386@freebsd.org Subject: [-STABLE tinderbox] failure on i386/i386 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 18:46:22 -0000 TB --- 2003-06-07 17:41:27 - starting RELENG_4 tinderbox run for i386/i386 TB --- 2003-06-07 17:41:27 - checking out the source tree TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/i386 TB --- /usr/bin/cvs -f -R -q -d/home/ncvs update -Pd -rRELENG_4 src TB --- 2003-06-07 17:58:28 - building world TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/i386/src TB --- /usr/bin/make -B buildworld >>> Rebuilding the temporary build tree >>> stage 1: bootstrap tools >>> stage 2: cleaning up the object tree >>> stage 2: rebuilding the object tree >>> stage 2: build tools >>> stage 3: cross tools >>> stage 4: populating /home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/i386/obj/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/i386/src/i386/usr/include >>> stage 4: building libraries >>> stage 4: make dependencies >>> stage 4: building everything.. [...] cp B/Disassembler.pm /home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/i386/obj/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/i386/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/B/build/B/B/Disassembler.pm cp B/disassemble /home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/i386/obj/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/i386/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/B/build/B/B/disassemble cp B/assemble /home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/i386/obj/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/i386/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/B/build/B/B/assemble cp B/Terse.pm /home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/i386/obj/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/i386/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/B/build/B/B/Terse.pm cp B/C.pm /home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/i386/obj/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/i386/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/B/build/B/B/C.pm /home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/i386/obj/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/i386/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/B/../../miniperl/miniperl -I/home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/i386/obj/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/i386/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/B/lib -I/home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/i386/obj/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/i386/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/B/lib /home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/i386/obj/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/i386/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/B/lib/ExtUtils/xsubpp -typemap /home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/i386/obj/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/i386/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/B/lib/ExtUtils/typemap -typemap typemap B.xs >xstmp.c && mv xstmp.c B.c cc -c -DVERSION=\"a5\" -DXS_VERSION=\"a5\" -DPIC -fpic -I/home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/i386/obj/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/i386/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/B -DPERL_CORE B.c cc1: /tmp/cc6U8kPQ.s: I/O error *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/i386/obj/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/i386/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/B/ext/B. *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/i386/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/B. *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/i386/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library. *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/i386/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl. *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/i386/src/gnu/usr.bin. *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/i386/src/gnu. *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/i386/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/i386/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/i386/src. TB --- 2003-06-07 18:46:19 - /usr/bin/make returned exit code 1 TB --- 2003-06-07 18:46:19 - ERROR: failed to build world TB --- 2003-06-07 18:46:19 - tinderbox aborted From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 7 13:27:13 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD48137B401; Sat, 7 Jun 2003 13:27:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org (triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.org [192.58.184.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2967743F75; Sat, 7 Jun 2003 13:27:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: from triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h57KRCWj094437; Sat, 7 Jun 2003 16:27:12 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from des+tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: (from des@localhost) by triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h57KRBPD094436; Sat, 7 Jun 2003 20:27:11 GMT Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 20:27:11 GMT Message-Id: <200306072027.h57KRBPD094436@triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org> X-Authentication-Warning: triangle.rtp.FreeBSD.Org: des set sender to Tinderbox using -f Sender: Tinderbox From: Tinderbox To: stable@freebsd.org, i386@freebsd.org Subject: [-STABLE tinderbox] failure on i386/pc98 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 20:27:14 -0000 TB --- 2003-06-07 18:46:20 - starting RELENG_4 tinderbox run for i386/pc98 TB --- 2003-06-07 18:46:20 - checking out the source tree TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98 TB --- /usr/bin/cvs -f -R -q -d/home/ncvs update -Pd -rRELENG_4 src TB --- 2003-06-07 19:33:38 - building world TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/src TB --- /usr/bin/make -B buildworld >>> Rebuilding the temporary build tree >>> stage 1: bootstrap tools >>> stage 2: cleaning up the object tree >>> stage 2: rebuilding the object tree >>> stage 2: build tools >>> stage 3: cross tools >>> stage 4: populating /home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/obj/pc98/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/src/i386/usr/include >>> stage 4: building libraries >>> stage 4: make dependencies >>> stage 4: building everything.. [...] cp B/Disassembler.pm /home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/obj/pc98/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/B/build/B/B/Disassembler.pm cp B/disassemble /home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/obj/pc98/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/B/build/B/B/disassemble cp B/assemble /home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/obj/pc98/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/B/build/B/B/assemble cp B/Terse.pm /home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/obj/pc98/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/B/build/B/B/Terse.pm cp B/C.pm /home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/obj/pc98/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/B/build/B/B/C.pm /home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/obj/pc98/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/B/../../miniperl/miniperl -I/home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/obj/pc98/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/B/lib -I/home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/obj/pc98/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/B/lib /home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/obj/pc98/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/B/lib/ExtUtils/xsubpp -typemap /home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/obj/pc98/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/B/lib/ExtUtils/typemap -typemap typemap B.xs >xstmp.c && mv xstmp.c B.c cc -c -DVERSION=\"a5\" -DXS_VERSION=\"a5\" -DPIC -fpic -I/home/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/obj/pc98/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/B -DPERL_CORE B.c cpp0: /tmp/ccBUICbr.i: No space left on device *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/obj/pc98/vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/B/ext/B. *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/B. *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library. *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl. *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/src/gnu/usr.bin. *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/src/gnu. *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /vol/vol0/users/des/tinderbox/RELENG_4/i386/pc98/src. TB --- 2003-06-07 20:27:11 - /usr/bin/make returned exit code 1 TB --- 2003-06-07 20:27:11 - ERROR: failed to build world TB --- 2003-06-07 20:27:11 - tinderbox aborted From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 7 13:39:19 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1D1F37B401 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2003 13:39:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cobble.capnet.state.tx.us (cobble.capnet.state.tx.us [141.198.179.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1644643FA3 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2003 13:39:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fbsdstable@cobble.capnet.state.tx.us) Received: from cobble.capnet.state.tx.us (localhost.capnet.state.tx.us [127.0.0.1])h57KeYd5024282 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2003 15:40:34 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from fbsdstable@cobble.capnet.state.tx.us) Received: from localhost (fbsdstable@localhost)h57KeYOW024279 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2003 15:40:34 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 15:40:34 -0500 (CDT) From: stuart nichols To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030607152936.D24263-100000@cobble.capnet.state.tx.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: What happened with 5.1-RELEASE? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 20:39:20 -0000 There used to be messages on this list around the time of a new release, letting people know what was happening, but that isn't happening this time. What list should the following question be directed to, if not this one? My auto-download program snagged a copy of the 5.1-RELEASE install ISO yesterday morning, but no release announcement was made. The directories exist on most, if not all of the ftpNN.freebsd.org servers, but the directories are protected, and the one I got it from changed to disallow further downloads. Did something go wrong with 5.1-RELEASE that required a re-work? The CD boots as 5.1-RELEASE, and loads normally. There are no cvsup deltas for RELENG_5_1, so no changes have been made available yet. What happened, and is there some horrible problem with the 5.1-RELEASE ISO I got that means I shouldn't load it? (Too late for that now.) It seems to be 5.1-RC1 with little if anything different except for a re-name of the version. stu stuart nichols CAPnet Network Operations From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 7 14:04:33 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB46837B401 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2003 14:04:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from norton.palomine.net (norton.palomine.net [66.93.48.52]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2551443FBF for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2003 14:04:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjohnson@palomine.net) Received: (qmail 40207 invoked by uid 1000); 7 Jun 2003 21:04:32 -0000 Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, fbsdstable@cobble.capnet.state.tx.us Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 17:04:32 -0400 From: Chris Johnson To: stuart nichols Message-ID: <20030607210432.GA40175@palomine.net> References: <20030607152936.D24263-100000@cobble.capnet.state.tx.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030607152936.D24263-100000@cobble.capnet.state.tx.us> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What happened with 5.1-RELEASE? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 21:04:34 -0000 On Sat, Jun 07, 2003 at 03:40:34PM -0500, stuart nichols wrote: > There used to be messages on this list around the time > of a new release, letting people know what was happening, > but that isn't happening this time. What list should the > following question be directed to, if not this one? Maybe freebsd-current? 5.1-RELEASE isn't -STABLE yet. Chris From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 7 14:09:54 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3B5037B401 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2003 14:09:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from archimedes.tomelliott.net (archimedes.tomelliott.net [81.6.196.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E9E443F93 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2003 14:09:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@tomelliott.net) Received: (qmail 53460 invoked by uid 85); 7 Jun 2003 21:07:10 -0000 Received: from tom@tomelliott.net by archimedes.tomelliott.net by uid 89 with qmail-scanner-1.15 (sweep: 2.9/3.56. clamscan: 0.54. Clear:. Processed in 2.210403 secs); 07 Jun 2003 21:07:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO rmto90894701) (195.22.134.221) by archimedes.tomelliott.net with SMTP; 7 Jun 2003 21:07:07 -0000 Message-ID: <00f801c32d39$1f230380$dd8616c3@rmto90894701> From: "Thomas Elliott" To: References: <20030607152936.D24263-100000@cobble.capnet.state.tx.us> Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 22:09:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: Re: What happened with 5.1-RELEASE? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 21:09:55 -0000 Just to add to the confusion, I snagged a copy of 5.1 disc1 from mirror.ac.uk (my local mirror) - when I went to download disc2 - the 5.1 folder had gone - leaving just RC1. Something very strange going on methinks. -- Tom tom@tomelliott.net ICQ: 8018364 MSN: netgeek_uk@hotmail.com Home# +44(0)1634309229 Fax# +44(0)1634710086 Mobile# +44(0)7764486175 US# +1(917)4386847 ----- Original Message ----- From: "stuart nichols" To: < > Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 9:40 PM Subject: What happened with 5.1-RELEASE? > There used to be messages on this list around the time > of a new release, letting people know what was happening, > but that isn't happening this time. What list should the > following question be directed to, if not this one? > > My auto-download program snagged a copy of the 5.1-RELEASE > install ISO yesterday morning, but no release announcement > was made. The directories exist on most, if not all of the > ftpNN.freebsd.org servers, but the directories are protected, > and the one I got it from changed to disallow further downloads. > > Did something go wrong with 5.1-RELEASE that required a re-work? > The CD boots as 5.1-RELEASE, and loads normally. There are no > cvsup deltas for RELENG_5_1, so no changes have been made > available yet. > > What happened, and is there some horrible problem with the > 5.1-RELEASE ISO I got that means I shouldn't load it? (Too > late for that now.) It seems to be 5.1-RC1 with little if > anything different except for a re-name of the version. > > stu > > stuart nichols > CAPnet Network Operations > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 7 14:56:42 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6B2437B401 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2003 14:56:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.lambertfam.org (www.lambertfam.org [216.223.208.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BAF943F93 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2003 14:56:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lambert@lambertfam.org) Received: from laptop.lambertfam.org (laptop.int.lambertfam.org [10.1.0.2]) by mail.lambertfam.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B14234D1F for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2003 17:56:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by laptop.lambertfam.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B3347895B; Sat, 7 Jun 2003 17:56:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 17:56:31 -0400 From: Scott Lambert To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030607215631.GB97015@laptop.lambertfam.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20030607152936.D24263-100000@cobble.capnet.state.tx.us> <00f801c32d39$1f230380$dd8616c3@rmto90894701> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <00f801c32d39$1f230380$dd8616c3@rmto90894701> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: What happened with 5.1-RELEASE? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 21:56:43 -0000 Why do we have to go through this for every fscking release? A release is not a release until the Release Engineering team sends the announcement. A release is not a release until the Release Engineering team sends the announcement. A release is not a release until the Release Engineering team sends the announcement. A release is not a release until the Release Engineering team sends the announcement. They always upload the RELEASE images a day or two ahead of making the announcement to allow them to be distributed to all of the FTP mirrors *before* the masses start scrambling to grab it. The only thing strange going on is a bunch of premature downloading and jumping to conclusions. Personally, I think someone should create a read protected directory named 6.5-RELEASE. Maybe with an ISO of the latest release that is modified to load a graphic that tells people to stop being so grabby. On Sat, Jun 07, 2003 at 10:09:44PM +0100, Thomas Elliott wrote: > Just to add to the confusion, I snagged a copy of 5.1 disc1 from > mirror.ac.uk (my local mirror) - when I went to download disc2 - the 5.1 > folder had gone - leaving just RC1. > Something very strange going on methinks. > -- > Tom > tom@tomelliott.net > ICQ: 8018364 MSN: netgeek_uk@hotmail.com > Home# +44(0)1634309229 Fax# +44(0)1634710086 > Mobile# +44(0)7764486175 US# +1(917)4386847 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "stuart nichols" > To: < > > Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 9:40 PM > Subject: What happened with 5.1-RELEASE? > > > > There used to be messages on this list around the time > > of a new release, letting people know what was happening, > > but that isn't happening this time. What list should the > > following question be directed to, if not this one? > > > > My auto-download program snagged a copy of the 5.1-RELEASE > > install ISO yesterday morning, but no release announcement > > was made. The directories exist on most, if not all of the > > ftpNN.freebsd.org servers, but the directories are protected, > > and the one I got it from changed to disallow further downloads. > > > > Did something go wrong with 5.1-RELEASE that required a re-work? > > The CD boots as 5.1-RELEASE, and loads normally. There are no > > cvsup deltas for RELENG_5_1, so no changes have been made > > available yet. > > > > What happened, and is there some horrible problem with the > > 5.1-RELEASE ISO I got that means I shouldn't load it? (Too > > late for that now.) It seems to be 5.1-RC1 with little if > > anything different except for a re-name of the version. > > > > stu > > > > stuart nichols > > CAPnet Network Operations > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Scott Lambert KC5MLE Unix SysAdmin lambert@lambertfam.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 7 15:37:24 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38C7637B401 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2003 15:37:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-169-104-32.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.169.104.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1C0443FB1 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2003 15:37:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from rot13.obsecurity.org (rot13.obsecurity.org [10.0.0.5]) by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 649F166B9B; Sat, 7 Jun 2003 15:37:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rot13.obsecurity.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4D66BB26; Sat, 7 Jun 2003 15:37:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 15:37:23 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Thomas Elliott Message-ID: <20030607223723.GA1912@rot13.obsecurity.org> References: <20030607152936.D24263-100000@cobble.capnet.state.tx.us> <00f801c32d39$1f230380$dd8616c3@rmto90894701> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="pWyiEgJYm5f9v55/" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <00f801c32d39$1f230380$dd8616c3@rmto90894701> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What happened with 5.1-RELEASE? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 22:37:24 -0000 --pWyiEgJYm5f9v55/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sat, Jun 07, 2003 at 10:09:44PM +0100, Thomas Elliott wrote: > Just to add to the confusion, I snagged a copy of 5.1 disc1 from > mirror.ac.uk (my local mirror) - when I went to download disc2 - the 5.1 > folder had gone - leaving just RC1. > Something very strange going on methinks. Yeah, but it's all on your end. The release isn't released yet! Kris --pWyiEgJYm5f9v55/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+4mkjWry0BWjoQKURArKBAKC66xVf4pMuCMV0VJ8b5OPqoSNT6gCfSOqM laz/UNzpDfGlKYrdDNM/14U= =tHtL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --pWyiEgJYm5f9v55/-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 7 15:59:53 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A3E537B401 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2003 15:59:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from archimedes.tomelliott.net (archimedes.tomelliott.net [81.6.196.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35C9F43FBF for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2003 15:59:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@tomelliott.net) Received: (qmail 57361 invoked by uid 85); 7 Jun 2003 22:57:11 -0000 Received: from tom@tomelliott.net by archimedes.tomelliott.net by uid 89 with qmail-scanner-1.15 (sweep: 2.9/3.56. clamscan: 0.54. Clear:. Processed in 2.216493 secs); 07 Jun 2003 22:57:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO rmto90894701) (195.22.134.221) by archimedes.tomelliott.net with SMTP; 7 Jun 2003 22:57:09 -0000 Message-ID: <002901c32d48$7d39c8a0$dd8616c3@rmto90894701> From: "Thomas Elliott" To: References: <20030607152936.D24263-100000@cobble.capnet.state.tx.us><00f801c32d39$1f230380$dd8616c3@rmto90894701> <20030607215631.GB97015@laptop.lambertfam.org> Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 23:59:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: Re: What happened with 5.1-RELEASE? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 22:59:53 -0000 Sorry if I rattled your cage Scott - it wasnt intentional. I was only saying that I found it strange that it appeared, then dissapeared within the timespace that it took me to download the first cd. -- Tom tom@tomelliott.net ICQ: 8018364 MSN: netgeek_uk@hotmail.com Home# +44(0)1634309229 Fax# +44(0)1634710086 Mobile# +44(0)7764486175 US# +1(917)4386847 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Lambert" To: Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 10:56 PM Subject: Re: What happened with 5.1-RELEASE? > Why do we have to go through this for every fscking release? > > A release is not a release until the Release Engineering team sends the > announcement. > > A release is not a release until the Release Engineering team sends the > announcement. > > A release is not a release until the Release Engineering team sends the > announcement. > > A release is not a release until the Release Engineering team sends the > announcement. > > They always upload the RELEASE images a day or two ahead of making the > announcement to allow them to be distributed to all of the FTP mirrors > *before* the masses start scrambling to grab it. > > The only thing strange going on is a bunch of premature downloading and > jumping to conclusions. > > Personally, I think someone should create a read protected directory > named 6.5-RELEASE. Maybe with an ISO of the latest release that is > modified to load a graphic that tells people to stop being so grabby. > > On Sat, Jun 07, 2003 at 10:09:44PM +0100, Thomas Elliott wrote: > > Just to add to the confusion, I snagged a copy of 5.1 disc1 from > > mirror.ac.uk (my local mirror) - when I went to download disc2 - the 5.1 > > folder had gone - leaving just RC1. > > Something very strange going on methinks. > > -- > > Tom > > tom@tomelliott.net > > ICQ: 8018364 MSN: netgeek_uk@hotmail.com > > Home# +44(0)1634309229 Fax# +44(0)1634710086 > > Mobile# +44(0)7764486175 US# +1(917)4386847 > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "stuart nichols" > > To: < > > > Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 9:40 PM > > Subject: What happened with 5.1-RELEASE? > > > > > > > There used to be messages on this list around the time > > > of a new release, letting people know what was happening, > > > but that isn't happening this time. What list should the > > > following question be directed to, if not this one? > > > > > > My auto-download program snagged a copy of the 5.1-RELEASE > > > install ISO yesterday morning, but no release announcement > > > was made. The directories exist on most, if not all of the > > > ftpNN.freebsd.org servers, but the directories are protected, > > > and the one I got it from changed to disallow further downloads. > > > > > > Did something go wrong with 5.1-RELEASE that required a re-work? > > > The CD boots as 5.1-RELEASE, and loads normally. There are no > > > cvsup deltas for RELENG_5_1, so no changes have been made > > > available yet. > > > > > > What happened, and is there some horrible problem with the > > > 5.1-RELEASE ISO I got that means I shouldn't load it? (Too > > > late for that now.) It seems to be 5.1-RC1 with little if > > > anything different except for a re-name of the version. > > > > > > stu > > > > > > stuart nichols > > > CAPnet Network Operations > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- > Scott Lambert KC5MLE Unix SysAdmin > lambert@lambertfam.org > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 7 16:05:45 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 513D937B401 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2003 16:05:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from magic.adaptec.com (magic-mail.adaptec.com [208.236.45.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C174343F93 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2003 16:05:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scottl@freebsd.org) Received: from redfish.adaptec.com (redfish.adaptec.com [162.62.50.11]) by magic.adaptec.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h57M0QQ05930; Sat, 7 Jun 2003 15:00:26 -0700 Received: from freebsd.org (hollin.btc.adaptec.com [10.100.253.56]) by redfish.adaptec.com (8.8.8p2+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA23123; Sat, 7 Jun 2003 16:05:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3EE26FDC.8070405@freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 17:06:04 -0600 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030425 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stuart nichols References: <20030607152936.D24263-100000@cobble.capnet.state.tx.us> In-Reply-To: <20030607152936.D24263-100000@cobble.capnet.state.tx.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What happened with 5.1-RELEASE? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 23:05:45 -0000 stuart nichols wrote: > There used to be messages on this list around the time > of a new release, letting people know what was happening, > but that isn't happening this time. What list should the > following question be directed to, if not this one? The freebsd-stable list tracks the FreeBSD 4.x series, as that it is the 'stable' branch. 5.x is still on the HEAD branch, and therefore by definition is 'current'. If you're planning on runing 5.1, then you should consider subscribing to the freebsd-current list. That said, I've made several announcements to the freebsd-current list in the past week about the 5.1 release. in short, it's coming very soon. > > My auto-download program snagged a copy of the 5.1-RELEASE > install ISO yesterday morning, but no release announcement > was made. The directories exist on most, if not all of the > ftpNN.freebsd.org servers, but the directories are protected, > and the one I got it from changed to disallow further downloads. Yep, we're trying a new distribution trick this time around. It's called 'let the mirrors get it first' =-) > Did something go wrong with 5.1-RELEASE that required a re-work? > The CD boots as 5.1-RELEASE, and loads normally. There are no > cvsup deltas for RELENG_5_1, so no changes have been made > available yet. You got lucky with a small permission slip on your particular mirror. If you're still feeling lucky, I would suggest buying a lottery ticket. > > What happened, and is there some horrible problem with the > 5.1-RELEASE ISO I got that means I shouldn't load it? (Too > late for that now.) It seems to be 5.1-RC1 with little if > anything different except for a re-name of the version. There were actually quite a few bugs fixed in between 5.1-RC and 5.1-RELEASE. As others have pointed out, the release hasn't happened until the release engineering team sends out the official PGP-signed message to the freebsd-announce mailing list. Nothing 'horrible' has gone wrong, we are just being patient and making sure that *everything* is in order for the release. Also, consider the load on the mirrors. 4.x releases only support x86 and alpha. 5.x supports x86, alpha, sparc64, ia64, and amd64. That's quite a bit of data to mirror. We learned the hard way with 5.0 that rushing the mirrors is not the correct way to do things. Scott From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 7 18:23:12 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C7CB37B401 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2003 18:23:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from quantumtheorem.com (quantumtheorem.com [205.206.12.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B7FB43FA3 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2003 18:23:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from darren@quantumtheorem.com) Received: from quantumtheorem.com (darren@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by quantumtheorem.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h581MYud002411 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2003 19:22:34 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from darren@quantumtheorem.com) From: "darren" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 18:22:34 -0700 Message-Id: <20030608012118.M496@quantumtheorem.com> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 1.90 20030212 X-OriginatingIP: 205.206.12.162 (darren) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: nvidia/4.8-stable X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 01:23:12 -0000 Has anyone had the nvidia driver successfully work for them? I ended up crashing everytime I tried to use X. All I'm interested in is the use of my tv-out on my nvidia card. any input is appreciated -Darren -- An Important Member of http://www.quantumtheorem.com/ =) From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 7 21:10:00 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 458EF37B401 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2003 21:10:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.bsdtech.com (tromso-dhcp-235-148.bluecom.no [62.101.235.148]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 616E843FBD for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2003 21:09:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from erik@pentadon.com) Received: (qmail 11356 invoked by uid 85); 8 Jun 2003 06:10:53 -0000 Received: from erik@pentadon.com by oxylon.pentadon.com by uid 92 with qmail-scanner-1.16 (spamassassin: 2.55. Clear:. Processed in 0.035736 secs); 08 Jun 2003 06:10:53 -0000 Received: from tromso-dhcp-234-175.bluecom.no (HELO eps) (62.101.234.175) by tromso-dhcp-235-148.bluecom.no with SMTP; 8 Jun 2003 06:10:53 -0000 From: "Erik Paulsen Skaalerud" To: "'Kris Kennaway'" , "'Thomas Elliott'" Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 06:09:57 +0200 Message-ID: <007601c32d73$d287f400$0a00000a@eps> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20030607223723.GA1912@rot13.obsecurity.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: RE: What happened with 5.1-RELEASE? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 04:10:00 -0000 > On Sat, Jun 07, 2003 at 10:09:44PM +0100, Thomas Elliott wrote: > > Just to add to the confusion, I snagged a copy of 5.1 disc1 from > > mirror.ac.uk (my local mirror) - when I went to download > disc2 - the > > 5.1 folder had gone - leaving just RC1. Something very > strange going > > on methinks. > > Yeah, but it's all on your end. The release isn't released yet! > I can second that: ftp> cd releases 250 "/pub/FreeBSD/releases" is new cwd. ftp> cd i386 250 "/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386" is new cwd. ftp> cd 5.1-RELEASE 553 Permission denied. :-) Erik. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 7 22:04:30 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF33137B401 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2003 22:04:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.188]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E24AE43FD7 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2003 22:04:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@chrullrich.de) Received: from [212.227.126.160] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19OsM0-0002n3-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 08 Jun 2003 07:04:28 +0200 Received: from [217.237.107.200] (helo=ser1.chrullrich.de) (TLSv1:EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19OsLz-0007Q6-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 08 Jun 2003 07:04:28 +0200 Received: from christian.chrullrich.de ([192.168.0.2]) by ser1.chrullrich.de with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19OsLy-000Cob-Q0 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 08 Jun 2003 07:04:26 +0200 Received: by christian.chrullrich.de (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 96F817305; Sun, 8 Jun 2003 07:04:24 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 07:04:24 +0200 From: Christian Ullrich To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030608050424.GA3912@christian.chrullrich.de> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20030607152936.D24263-100000@cobble.capnet.state.tx.us> <00f801c32d39$1f230380$dd8616c3@rmto90894701> <20030607215631.GB97015@laptop.lambertfam.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030607215631.GB97015@laptop.lambertfam.org> X-Current-Uptime: 0 d, 07:05:03 h, idle 0 d, 06:50:18 h User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Subject: Re: What happened with 5.1-RELEASE? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 05:04:31 -0000 * Scott Lambert schrieb am Samstag, 2003-06-07: > Personally, I think someone should create a read protected directory > named 6.5-RELEASE. Maybe with an ISO of the latest release that is > modified to load a graphic that tells people to stop being so grabby. On the contrary. Think of it that way: Each time someone demonstrates his or her "grabbiness", they do what they probably wouldn't think of doing if they knew better: They _test_ the unreleased code. -- Christian Ullrich I will delete any replies sent to me that should have been sent to the list. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 7 22:54:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9465C37B401 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2003 22:54:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from moutvdom.kundenserver.de (moutvdom.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A24943FBF for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2003 22:54:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matze@matzsoft.de) Received: from [212.227.126.222] (helo=mrvdomng.kundenserver.de) by moutvdom.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19Ot85-0000EH-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 08 Jun 2003 07:54:09 +0200 Received: from [217.227.23.232] (helo=freiteufel.homeunix.net) by mrvdomng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19Ot84-00036n-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 08 Jun 2003 07:54:08 +0200 Received: from freiteufel.homeunix.net (localhost.matzhome.de [127.0.0.1]) h585sMiG000332 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2003 07:54:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from matze@freiteufel.homeunix.net) Received: (from matze@localhost) by freiteufel.homeunix.net (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h585sLR3000331 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 8 Jun 2003 07:54:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from matze) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 07:54:21 +0200 From: Mathias Menzel-Nielsen To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030608055421.GA321@freiteufel.homeunix.net> References: <20030608012118.M496@quantumtheorem.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030608012118.M496@quantumtheorem.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE X-Datenschutz: "Ich widerspreche der Nutzung oder Uebermittlung meiner Daten fuer Werbezwecke und/oder fuer die Markt- oder Meinungsforschung (gemaess Par. 28 Abs.3 BDSG)" Subject: Re: nvidia/4.8-stable X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 05:54:10 -0000 Am Saturday, dem 07. June 2003 um 18:22:34 -0700 meinte darren: > Has anyone had the nvidia driver successfully work for them? I ended up crashing everytime I tried to use X. All I'm interested in is the use of my tv-out on my nvidia card. any input is appreciated You could use the nvtv program, which gives full TV-Out-Control (overscan etc.), has a nice gui and runs with the nv driver, too. Altough i wasnt able to compile it, because of its pci.h linux includes, the linux-binary runs very well here. I use it daily for my tv-out needs. Link: http://sourceforge.net/projects/nv-tv-out/ (get the nvtv-bin) Have Phun! -- Mathias Menzel-Nielsen pub 1024D/EC56C3BB -- FreeBSD is for People that Love *nix; Linux is for People that Hate Windows! From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 7 23:29:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC2E037B401 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2003 23:29:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cobble.capnet.state.tx.us (cobble.capnet.state.tx.us [141.198.179.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A19343FA3 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2003 23:29:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fbsdstable@cobble.capnet.state.tx.us) Received: from cobble.capnet.state.tx.us (localhost.capnet.state.tx.us [127.0.0.1])h586UWd5024844 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2003 01:30:32 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from fbsdstable@cobble.capnet.state.tx.us) Received: from localhost (fbsdstable@localhost)h586UWEL024841 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2003 01:30:32 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 01:30:32 -0500 (CDT) From: stuart nichols To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20030608050424.GA3912@christian.chrullrich.de> Message-ID: <20030608010921.C24680-100000@cobble.capnet.state.tx.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: What happened with 5.1-RELEASE? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 06:29:15 -0000 On Sun, 8 Jun 2003, Christian Ullrich wrote: > * Scott Lambert schrieb am Samstag, 2003-06-07: > > Personally, I think someone should create a read protected directory > > named 6.5-RELEASE. Maybe with an ISO of the latest release that is > > modified to load a graphic that tells people to stop being so grabby. > On the contrary. Think of it that way: Each time someone demonstrates > his or her "grabbiness", they do what they probably wouldn't think of > doing if they knew better: They _test_ the unreleased code. Yep. I've loaded it twice so far and it hasn't given me any problems on the two machines it is now on (about 30 hours and 12 hours). But I always thoroughly test the releases. I usually test the release candidates, also. In my case, I'd be testing the heck out of 5.1-R anyway, after the official release. It's part of my job, and has been since 1.1.5.1. Don't want people to grab it early? Load it to a different tree and do an mv at release time. Having a 5.1-RELEASE directory tree with no access confuses people, but having access come-and-go is even more confusing. Asking if the removal of access was due to some problem, such as a newly-discovered security bug for example, seems legitimate. stu