From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 17 00:28:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0CDB37B401 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2003 00:28:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lynx.syix.com (lynx.syix.com [205.171.72.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6FC043F75 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2003 00:28:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pan@syix.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lynx.syix.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7H7S2fN057865 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2003 00:28:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pan@syix.com) Received: from lynx.syix.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (lynx.syix.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 56373-03-2 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2003 00:28:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iris (tcr-01-76.syix.com [205.171.76.204]) by lynx.syix.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h7H7QuLT057582 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2003 00:26:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pan@syix.com) Message-ID: <002201c36490$f23c1d40$cc4cabcd@iris> From: "pan" To: References: <20030816162103.Y1159@steeltoe.niceboots.com><20030817010026.95964C4@CRWdog.demon.co.uk> <20030817045922.GA48181@rot13.obsecurity.org> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 00:26:53 -0700 Organization: ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at syix.com Subject: Re: [releng_4 tinderbox] failure on alpha/alpha X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 07:28:03 -0000 >You're entitled to your opinion, but since you've never had to deal >with the flood of support requests when INDEX builds were broken by >careless committers before I started the automated tinderbox, I'd >suggest you try to consider it from point of view of those of us who >are actually involved in the support of the OS. >Kris If anyone is collecting opinions ... I can see the value of these tinderbox messages, but ... Could they please be posted to a list that users could choose to monitor? There are some of us who use a very low bandwidth connection to read what we need to from the freebsd lists. What with the spam load that filters through, receiving extra and continual tinderbox messages of low utility is taxing. Is there anything wrong with using tinderbox@freebsd.org? What was the thinking behind deciding to post these messages to stable? Pan