From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 31 08:05:49 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1678D37B401 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 08:05:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from andromeda.68k.org (callisto.teisoft.com [12.109.66.145]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 602F443F3F for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 08:05:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ayn@andromeda.68k.org) Received: from andromeda.68k.org (ayn@localhost [127.0.0.1]) h2VG5lpS012174 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 11:05:47 -0500 Received: (from ayn@localhost) by andromeda.68k.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-5) id h2VG5llD012172 for www@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 11:05:47 -0500 Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 11:05:47 -0500 From: Andrew Y Ng To: www@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20030331160547.GA11950@AndrewNg.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i X-GPG-Fingerprint: 46A1 29FF 893A 0381 DC81 1E1E BED8 E882 9BFC 594C X-GPG-Info: gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 9BFC594C Subject: getting on the freebsd consultants list X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 16:05:50 -0000 --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, my company, AYN & Associates, provides FreeBSD consulting services, and I'm wondering if I could be included at the Commercial Vendors - Consulting webpage. Here's a brief description of my consultantcy: AYN & Associates (www.aynassociates.com), based in Austin, TX, is a softwar= e=20 and internet consulting company specializes in FreeBSD. We provide a full range of services including setting up FreeBSD servers, LAN setups, setting= =20 up internet services such as mail and news servers, proxies, web servers.= =20 We also provide custom programming solutions in most operating systems. Thank you so much for your help! /ayn --=20 andrew y ng http://andrewng.com independent computer consultants http://aynassociates.com --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+iGdbvtjogpv8WUwRAsmVAKCaq0AO954V16Y+drYORWrcYslLtwCgiGq3 FMuoQxSACAdm4LcHx4z79Z8= =dNpZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS-- From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 31 10:39:48 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D4AF37B401; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 10:39:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from rutger.owt.com (rutger.owt.com [204.118.6.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 534BA43FA3; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 10:39:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from topaz-out (owt-207-41-94-233.owt.com [207.41.94.233]) by rutger.owt.com (8.11.6/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h2VIdkp27833; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 10:39:46 -0800 From: Kent Stewart To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 10:39:45 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200303311039.45705.kstewart@owt.com> cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Subject: Mailing lists on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 18:39:49 -0000 I just looked at the Mailing List web page on FreeBSD.org and the instructions are mostly out of date. They still refer to the majordomo and the instructions for Mailman are much different. I don't know if Mailman is here for good but if it is, the docs need to be updated. In addition, you can now subscribe on line by accessing your list from http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/ and using the online form. Thinking of all of the misplaced subcribe messages I see, this deserved a "WOW!!". This ability also needs to be updated on www.freebsd.org and Appendix C of the Handbook. For the most part, a link to ../mailman/listinfo could replace the URL link to the mailing lists on the web page. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 31 13:14:09 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6035F37B401 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 13:14:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from integraonline.com (mail-4.integraonline.com [206.163.82.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9276D43FBD for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 13:14:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rick@eventrental.com) Received: (qmail 26330 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2003 21:14:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sherry) ([198.107.57.66]) (envelope-sender ) by 0 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 31 Mar 2003 21:14:04 -0000 From: "Rick" To: Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 12:12:35 -0800 Message-ID: <000001c2f7ca$75b84420$6901a8c0@eventrental.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: 4 port phone card X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 21:14:10 -0000 Hi.. sometime ago I log on FreeBSD web page and hit one new product line. It allow to connect 4 phone on the card to send over LAN or T1 microwave and back card on the other end... I made a print out and miss place it. Sign Rick Bremmeyer From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 31 16:42:39 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 794E437B401 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 16:42:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from seven.Alameda.net (seven.Alameda.net [64.81.63.137]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F11DD43FA3 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 16:42:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ulf@Alameda.net) Received: by seven.Alameda.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AF2CC3A201; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 16:42:38 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 16:42:38 -0800 From: Ulf Zimmermann To: "Rafael B. Diaz" Message-ID: <20030331164238.J92889@seven.alameda.net> References: <5.1.1.6.0.20030330023810.00a65d40@incoming.verizon.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20030330023810.00a65d40@incoming.verizon.net>; from rafael.bolivar@verizon.net on Sun, Mar 30, 2003 at 02:38:46AM -0500 Organization: Alameda Networks, Inc. X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE-p2 cc: www@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Installation problems. X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: ulf@Alameda.net List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:42:39 -0000 On Sun, Mar 30, 2003 at 02:38:46AM -0500, Rafael B. Diaz wrote: > I have purchased two versions of Freebsd that come with books. I have a > problem when I need to generate the diskettes because it is asking me to > create a diskette with 2048MB. I am using a Toshiba and an IBM laptops but > none of them have this size diskettes. > I am very interested on using the software but have not been able to do > anything. I need help. > The second diskette (mfsroot.flp) is the one that requires a 2048MB floppy. > Please advise. First of all, you should send email to questions@FreeBSD.org. Secondly mfsroot.flp and kern.flp are not 2048MB large. Each of them is an image of a 1.44MB floppy. You need to use rawrite or simular to write them to a floppy. They do not go onto a MS-Dos FAT formated floppy. -- Regards, Ulf. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Ulf Zimmermann, 1525 Pacific Ave., Alameda, CA-94501, #: 510-865-0204 You can find my resume at: http://seven.Alameda.net/~ulf/resume.html From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 1 00:50:50 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 387D937B401 for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2003 00:50:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailface.roving.com (mailface.roving.com [63.251.135.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60A3943FD7 for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2003 00:50:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ESC1011088334329_1011074844945@in.roving.com) Received: from tracking2 (tracking2.roving.com [10.20.40.142]) by mailface.roving.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D526534295 for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2003 04:47:47 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <1011088334329.1011074844945.200317@scheduler> From: The Fat Cat To: www@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Roving-Queued: 20030401 03:50:31.556 X-Mailer: Roving Constant Contact 6.0.Patch648 (http://www.constantcontact.com) X-Roving-ID: 1011088334329 X-Return-Path-Hint: ESC1011088334329_1011074844945@in.roving.com Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 04:47:47 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Fat Cat Media Newsletter X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: info@fatcatmedia.tv List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 08:50:51 -0000 Fat Cat Media Newsletter Newsletter Subtitle (Month 2002) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Greetings! 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Update your profile http://ccprod.roving.com/roving/d.jsp?p=3Doo&m=3D1011061323653&ea=3Dwww@fre= ebsd.org Instant removal with SafeUnsubscribe(TM) http://ccprod.roving.com/roving/d.jsp?p=3Dun&m=3D1011061323653&ea=3Dwww@fre= ebsd.org Privacy Policy: http://ccprod.roving.com/roving/CCPrivacyPolicy.jsp=20 Powered by Constant Contact(R) www.constantcontact.com From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 1 05:38:02 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 885D637B401 for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2003 05:38:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from web40511.mail.yahoo.com (web40511.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.78.128]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3EB7243F75 for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2003 05:38:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gpankaj@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20030401133802.77703.qmail@web40511.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [210.7.76.226] by web40511.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 01 Apr 2003 05:38:02 PST Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 05:38:02 -0800 (PST) From: Pankaj Agarwal To: www@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 13:38:02 -0000 Hi, I am trying to download the ISO images of freebsd 4.7. I have already downloaded disc1 and disc3 of that, but im unble to download the disc 2. It always stops at 98% i.e. 624.55 mb. Know when i try to resume the download it says connection refused. Please help me in downloading that as i am eager to have a go at FreeBSD. Thanks and Regards, Pankaj Agarwal __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://platinum.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 1 09:11:43 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3D7937B401 for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2003 09:11:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03.attbi.com [204.127.202.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CDCE43FB1 for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2003 09:11:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah@employees.org) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org (12-240-204-110.client.attbi.com[12.240.204.110]) by sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03) with ESMTP id <2003040117113800300i8jdne>; Tue, 1 Apr 2003 17:11:39 +0000 Received: from intruder.bmah.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h31HBbs0016257; Tue, 1 Apr 2003 09:11:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah@intruder.bmah.org) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h31HBbBs016256; Tue, 1 Apr 2003 09:11:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 09:11:37 -0800 From: "Bruce A. Mah" To: Pankaj Agarwal Message-ID: <20030401171137.GA16228@intruder.bmah.org> References: <20030401133802.77703.qmail@web40511.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="azLHFNyN32YCQGCU" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030401133802.77703.qmail@web40511.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ cc: www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 17:11:43 -0000 --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline If memory serves me right, Pankaj Agarwal wrote: > I am trying to download the ISO images of freebsd 4.7. > I have already downloaded disc1 and disc3 of that, but > im unble to download the disc 2. It always stops at > 98% i.e. 624.55 mb. Know when i try to resume the > download it says connection refused. Please help me in > downloading that as i am eager to have a go at > FreeBSD. Technical support questions should go to . Be sure to say how you're downloading the file(s) and what FTP mirror you're using. Also, note that you can install FreeBSD with only disc1. disc2 is a "live filesystem" which is designed to help you repair a damaged FreeBSD system. disc3 and disc4 have more precompiled packages, but you can install a fully functional system with just disc1. Finally, you might consider waiting a day or two...the release of FreeBSD 4.8 is imminent. Check the main FreeBSD Web page for a release announcement when this happens. (This is not an April Fools joke.) Good luck! Bruce. --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+ichJ2MoxcVugUsMRAi+VAJ41xA7+J5RIN2gm9XnQU2pCPcjQtACdHUbz op4t/OLAhJr1Sxw60+sABh8= =fMqM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU-- From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 1 09:58:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB29B37B401 for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2003 09:58:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from karen.sercomtel.com.br (karen.sercomtel.com.br [200.250.19.118]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3F0143F85 for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2003 09:58:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from leopublico@sercomtel.com.br) Received: from aslda002p235.sercomtel.com.br by karen.sercomtel.com.br <8.9.3/8.9.3> with ESMTP id OAA04157 for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2003 14:58:43 -0300 From: Leonardo Pinheiro To: www@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 14:56:26 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200304021456.26892.leopublico@sercomtel.com.br> Subject: Port description for editors/openoffice-pt X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 17:58:53 -0000 Error loading page http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/editors/openoffice-pt/pkg-descr This message: Port description for editors/openoffice-pt The port specified does not exist, or has an invalid name: ports/editors/openoffice-pt/pkg-descr You are coming from http://www%2efreebsd%2eorg/doc/en%5fUS%2eISO8859%2d1/books/handbook/desktop%2dproductivity%2ehtml. Please contact www@freebsd.org From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 1 13:31:01 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6AC737B401 for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2003 13:31:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (pc1-cdif2-5-cust38.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.101.150.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DCC543F85 for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2003 13:31:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.12) id 190TLQ-000PWJ-00; Tue, 01 Apr 2003 22:31:00 +0100 Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 22:31:00 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: Andrew Y Ng Message-ID: <20030401213100.GA97965@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Andrew Y Ng , www@FreeBSD.org References: <20030331160547.GA11950@AndrewNg.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030331160547.GA11950@AndrewNg.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: Ceri Davies cc: www@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: getting on the freebsd consultants list X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 21:31:02 -0000 On Mon, Mar 31, 2003 at 11:05:47AM -0500, Andrew Y Ng wrote: > Hi, my company, AYN & Associates, provides FreeBSD consulting services, and > I'm wondering if I could be included at the Commercial Vendors - Consulting > webpage. OK done; please check the website in about 12 hours time and let me know if there are any problems. Thanks, Ceri -- From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 1 14:53:27 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8D8F37B404 for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2003 14:53:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from web20909.mail.yahoo.com (web20909.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.231]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2534A43FAF for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2003 14:53:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from newchecking@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20030401225326.7546.qmail@web20909.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [4.46.201.212] by web20909.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 01 Apr 2003 14:53:26 PST Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 14:53:26 -0800 (PST) From: New Checking Account To: www@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: donations@FreeBSD.org Subject: re: advertiser/sponsor inquiry X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 22:53:28 -0000 Hello, I would like to to know if you offer text link advertising (instead of banners) on your website http://www.freebsd.org. We have a financial-related site we are interested in advertising on your site. The text link ad would be no more than 5-10 words in length, and could be in a non-obtrusive/low-visibility section of your homepage(s), as we are mainly interested in gaining link popularity from this link. Please let me know at your earliest convenience if you have this type of advertising available, as well as the cost of such advertising monthly. Best Regards, Kelly Felix Bill-Consolidation-Program.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://platinum.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 2 07:23:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2492137B401 for ; Wed, 2 Apr 2003 07:23:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from web1.tmchost.com (web1.tmchost.com [66.17.159.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 557D043FDD for ; Wed, 2 Apr 2003 07:23:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from aw@rackmountmart.com) Received: (qmail 8640 invoked by uid 48); 2 Apr 2003 15:59:45 -0000 Received: from 203.78.85.10 ( [203.78.85.10]) as user aw@localhost by webmail.rackmountmart.com with HTTP; Wed, 2 Apr 2003 07:59:45 -0800 Message-ID: <1049299185.3e8b08f1b063c@webmail.rackmountmart.com> Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 07:59:45 -0800 From: Amanda Wong To: www@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=BIG5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1 X-Originating-IP: 203.78.85.10 Subject: Request to add url to http://www.pl.freebsd.org/commercial/hardware.html X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 15:23:10 -0000 Hi there, Greetings! We are a rackmount chassis distributor and reseller. Some of our productsare FreeBSD-compatible products Would you consider listing our url in your site ? Thanks for your attention and look forward to hearing from you soon. 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Thu, 3 Apr 2003 09:42:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (pc1-cdif2-5-cust38.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.101.150.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16CCA43FB1 for ; Thu, 3 Apr 2003 09:42:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.12) id 1918j0-000NVo-00; Thu, 03 Apr 2003 18:42:06 +0100 Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 18:42:06 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: Kyle Amon Message-ID: <20030403174206.GB90084@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Kyle Amon , www@freebsd.org References: <20030304162112.54939b3d.amonk@backwatcher.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030304162112.54939b3d.amonk@backwatcher.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: Ceri Davies cc: www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Commercial Vendors - Consulting listing X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 17:42:08 -0000 On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 04:21:12PM -0500, Kyle Amon wrote: > Please update the entry for > > GNUTEC, Inc. > > on the "Commercial Vendors - Consulting" page as follows... > > New Name: BackWatcher, Inc. > New URL: www.backwatcher.com > New Email: info@backwatcher.com Done; sorry for the one month delay. Ceri -- From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 3 23:01:37 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B3F837B401; Thu, 3 Apr 2003 23:01:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCB6943FB1; Thu, 3 Apr 2003 23:01:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah@employees.org) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org (12-240-204-110.client.attbi.com[12.240.204.110]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51) with ESMTP id <20030404070136051005so4de>; Fri, 4 Apr 2003 07:01:36 +0000 Received: from intruder.bmah.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h3471as0040701; Thu, 3 Apr 2003 23:01:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah@intruder.bmah.org) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h3471aCL040700; Thu, 3 Apr 2003 23:01:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 23:01:36 -0800 From: "Bruce A. Mah" To: World Wide Web Owner Message-ID: <20030404070136.GA40667@intruder.bmah.org> References: <200304040654.h346sXah017211@www.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200304040654.h346sXah017211@www.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD web build failed on www.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 07:01:37 -0000 --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline If memory serves me right, World Wide Web Owner wrote: > install -C -o bmah -g www -m 664 /w/www/build/www/en/applications.html /usr/local/www/data > install: /usr/local/www/data/applications.html: chown/chgrp: Operation not permitted This is the result of me trying to trigger Web updates. I'm not sure why it's trying to install files as me. Sorry for the chatter. Bruce. --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+jS3P2MoxcVugUsMRAtbAAKDyZSnyf8+otvdgDZ3LlGBDZPJf2ACgougA lAwH5kcm2VNqKo0Z7Iu2ow0= =SXII -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o-- From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 4 00:08:36 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2299C37B404 for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2003 00:08:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from gandalf.online.bg (gandalf.online.bg [217.75.128.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3FA9643FAF for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2003 00:08:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roam@ringlet.net) Received: (qmail 16920 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2003 08:03:31 -0000 Received: from office.sbnd.net (HELO straylight.ringlet.net) (217.75.140.130) by gandalf.online.bg with SMTP; 4 Apr 2003 08:03:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 32204 invoked by uid 1000); 4 Apr 2003 08:06:40 -0000 Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 11:06:40 +0300 From: Peter Pentchev To: "Bruce A. Mah" Message-ID: <20030404080640.GB7008@straylight.oblivion.bg> Mail-Followup-To: "Bruce A. Mah" , World Wide Web Owner , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org References: <200304040654.h346sXah017211@www.freebsd.org> <20030404070136.GA40667@intruder.bmah.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="H1spWtNR+x+ondvy" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030404070136.GA40667@intruder.bmah.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org cc: World Wide Web Owner Subject: Re: FreeBSD web build failed on www.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 08:08:36 -0000 --H1spWtNR+x+ondvy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 11:01:36PM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > If memory serves me right, World Wide Web Owner wrote: >=20 > > install -C -o bmah -g www -m 664 /w/www/build/www/en/applications.html= /usr/local/www/data > > install: /usr/local/www/data/applications.html: chown/chgrp: Operation = not permitted >=20 > This is the result of me trying to trigger Web updates. I'm not sure > why it's trying to install files as me. Sorry for the chatter. I think both web.site.mk and doc.install.mk have always done what doc.install.mk calls 'hack to set DOCOWN and DOCGRP to those of the user installing, if that user is not root'. G'luck, Peter --=20 Peter Pentchev roam@ringlet.net roam@sbnd.net roam@FreeBSD.org PGP key: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~roam/roam.key.asc Key fingerprint FDBA FD79 C26F 3C51 C95E DF9E ED18 B68D 1619 4553 This inert sentence is my body, but my soul is alive, dancing in the sparks= of your brain. --H1spWtNR+x+ondvy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+jT0Q7Ri2jRYZRVMRAiYOAJ9hx1yD21RIyIzrLVYYAkLk2SVKkQCfSwiz iuzD6lAakQOSXTX3pUyEqOQ= =poNb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --H1spWtNR+x+ondvy-- From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 4 09:35:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92F3A37B401; Fri, 4 Apr 2003 09:35:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03.attbi.com [204.127.202.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DFF443FCB; Fri, 4 Apr 2003 09:35:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah@employees.org) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org (12-240-204-110.client.attbi.com[12.240.204.110]) by sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03) with ESMTP id <2003040417354900300p7fhpe>; Fri, 4 Apr 2003 17:35:49 +0000 Received: from intruder.bmah.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h34HZks0037027; Fri, 4 Apr 2003 09:35:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah@intruder.bmah.org) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h34HZkKJ037012; Fri, 4 Apr 2003 09:35:46 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 09:35:46 -0800 From: "Bruce A. Mah" To: "Bruce A. Mah" , World Wide Web Owner , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030404173546.GA32903@intruder.bmah.org> References: <200304040654.h346sXah017211@www.freebsd.org> <20030404070136.GA40667@intruder.bmah.org> <20030404080640.GB7008@straylight.oblivion.bg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030404080640.GB7008@straylight.oblivion.bg> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Subject: Re: FreeBSD web build failed on www.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 17:35:53 -0000 --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If memory serves me right, Peter Pentchev wrote: > On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 11:01:36PM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > > If memory serves me right, World Wide Web Owner wrote: > >=20 > > > install -C -o bmah -g www -m 664 /w/www/build/www/en/applications.ht= ml /usr/local/www/data > > > install: /usr/local/www/data/applications.html: chown/chgrp: Operatio= n not permitted > >=20 > > This is the result of me trying to trigger Web updates. I'm not sure > > why it's trying to install files as me. Sorry for the chatter. >=20 > I think both web.site.mk and doc.install.mk have always done what > doc.install.mk calls 'hack to set DOCOWN and DOCGRP to those of the user > installing, if that user is not root'. What was puzzling me was that I was logged in as www at the time (well, logged in as me, and then ksu-ed to www). Oh well. Bruce. --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+jcJy2MoxcVugUsMRArgxAKCeVVOFOoVj+JpQA/bAisF4+bQDyQCg3GCG 0Kq4YPmSK+ecsn8QX7ZhPQ0= =IicP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8-- From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 4 22:10:13 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-www@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F31F837B401 for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2003 22:10:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6B7B43FCB for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2003 22:10:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h356ABUp091668 for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2003 22:10:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h356ABAn091667; Fri, 4 Apr 2003 22:10:11 -0800 (PST) Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 22:10:11 -0800 (PST) Resent-Message-Id: <200304050610.h356ABAn091667@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-www@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Mark Linimon Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DB6C37B401 for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2003 22:02:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [207.200.4.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B616243FA3 for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2003 22:02:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from lonesome.lonesome.com (cs242746-11.austin.rr.com [24.27.46.11]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E64EC14362 for ; Sat, 5 Apr 2003 00:02:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from lonesome.lonesome.com (localhost.lonesome.com [127.0.0.1]) by lonesome.lonesome.com (8.12.8/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h3566HeQ098600 for ; Sat, 5 Apr 2003 00:06:17 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.lonesome.com) Received: (from linimon@localhost) by lonesome.lonesome.com (8.12.9/8.12.6/Submit) id h3566Grp098599; Sat, 5 Apr 2003 00:06:16 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from linimon) Message-Id: <200304050606.h3566Grp098599@lonesome.lonesome.com> Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 00:06:16 -0600 (CST) From: Mark Linimon To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113.1 Subject: www/50617: [patch] add missing mailing lists to WWW search page X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2003 06:10:13 -0000 >Number: 50617 >Category: www >Synopsis: [patch] add missing mailing lists to WWW search page >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-www >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Apr 04 22:10:11 PST 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Mark Linimon >Release: FreeBSD-2.0 >Organization: FreeBSD >Environment: N/A >Description: Unless I'm looking in the wrong place, it looks like it is not currently possible to search some of the newer FreeBSD mailing lists. I don't understand enough on how all that works to understand if there are back-end (indexing) changes needed, but I thinkg this may at least update the web page (http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html) and encourage someone to take a look at the larger problem. Note that I haven't added the following (I don't know whether it is intended that they be left out): ia32, ircops, performance, stats, test, testing, vendors. Also NOTE: someone with better knowledge of the www tree than I have, ought to review this patch for possible major brain damage. This is simply my best-guess. >How-To-Repeat: N/A >Fix: Patch /usr/www/en/search/search.sgml with the following: --- search.sgml.dist Fri Apr 4 23:43:08 2003 +++ search.sgml Fri Apr 4 23:58:42 2003 @@ -146,6 +146,12 @@ Security Notification + Annoucements regarding FreeBSD security issues (including, e.g., CERT notices) + + + + User-Groups A forum for FreeBSD user groups @@ -244,8 +250,32 @@ Commit - Changes made to the FreeBSD source tree + value="cvs-all"> Commit (All) + All changes made to all FreeBSD source trees + + + + Commit (doc) + Changes made to the FreeBSD documents source tree + + + + Commit (ports) + Changes made to the FreeBSD ports source tree + + + + Commit (projects) + Changes made to the FreeBSD projects source tree + + + + Commit (src) + Changes made to the FreeBSD main source tree @@ -317,6 +347,12 @@ i386 + Porting FreeBSD to Intel x86 systems and workalikes + + + + ia64 Porting FreeBSD to Intel's upcoming IA64 systems @@ -407,6 +443,12 @@ Ports Bugs + Bug reports concerning FreeBSD's ports collection + + + + PPC Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC @@ -443,14 +485,20 @@ SPARC - Porting FreeBSD to the SPARC + value="freebsd-sparc64"> SPARC64 + Porting FreeBSD to the SPARC64 Standards FreeBSD Conformance to the C99 and the POSIX standards + + + + Threads + Discussion about threading models in FreeBSD, including KSE and others >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 5 07:17:21 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA57F37B401; Sat, 5 Apr 2003 07:17:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (pc1-cdif2-5-cust38.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.101.150.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0884543F85; Sat, 5 Apr 2003 07:17:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.12) id 191pQ0-000JjR-00; Sat, 05 Apr 2003 16:17:20 +0100 Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 16:17:20 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: www@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20030405151719.GA75703@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , www@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: Ceri Davies Subject: XHTML and the website X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2003 15:17:22 -0000 All, Initially, apologies for the cross-posting. Now that's out of the way: In August last year, a commit was made to change the website to XHTML, and since then, all the documents built from SGML have been happily announcing in their DOCTYPE declaration that they are XHTML 1.0 Transitional. However, with the exception of the front page of the web site, they aren't; none of them validate. I've started working on getting them to validate. It's not difficult, it's just donkey work really, and I don't mind doing it, but now that I've finished www/en/*sgml I'd like to get some feedback before I go any further. The patch for the above is at http://people.freebsd.org/~ceri/xhtml.diff. Main points of interest/concern are: 1. Upper case elements and attributes have to go. e.g., needs to become . 2. All tags need to be closed. e.g., needs to become . #1 and #2 strike me as possible targets for complaints about repo-bloat. 3. &header; had to be ripped into three pieces, as sgmlnorm won't let you leave an entity at a different level to that which you entered it. Thus the opening had to be taken out of &header;. I've tried to compensate for this by moving some stuff into freebsd.css but I have no idea how CSSs work (and I'd like that to validate too), so we now have '' in all the SGML documents. 4. As part of #3, we now also have to have &navbar; everywhere we want the navigation bar - it can't stay inside &header;. Again, #3 and #4 cause me some concern; we know have X documents to edit if we want to change the alink colour, but I'm wondering why we're specifying this anyway in all honesty. 5. I haven't messed about with web.site.mk enough to make this conditional; therefore, only the documents I have "fixed" build. I'm worried about what happens when I get to www/es and anything else in a language foreign to me. One way around #5 is to introduce XMLDOCS in the Makefiles and move conforming documents there from DOCS, and add a bit of glue to web.site.mk to deal with them. I understand that my proposal is somewhat incomplete at the moment, but while I'd really like to see the web site validate, I don't know if this is something that the collective wants. Take this as a request for comments, with a patch that is merely illustrative, not complete. Thanks for reading, Ceri -- From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 5 07:29:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E56C737B404; Sat, 5 Apr 2003 07:29:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2C4C43F85; Sat, 5 Apr 2003 07:29:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mobile.pittgoth.com (acs-24-154-229-196.zoominternet.net [24.154.229.196]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id h35FToBG043755; Sat, 5 Apr 2003 10:29:50 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 10:28:27 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes To: Ceri Davies Message-Id: <20030405102827.551d2023.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20030405151719.GA75703@submonkey.net> References: <20030405151719.GA75703@submonkey.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.10claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: doc@FreeBSD.org cc: www@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: XHTML and the website X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2003 15:29:53 -0000 On Sat, 5 Apr 2003 16:17:20 +0100 Ceri Davies wrote: > > All, > > Initially, apologies for the cross-posting. Now that's out of the way: Sometimes a cross-post cannot be helped. > > In August last year, a commit was made to change the website to XHTML, and That was mine. I did this in hopes that it would help with some web browsers. Perhaps this needs to be thought about more, based on what you have found out below: > since then, all the documents built from SGML have been happily announcing > in their DOCTYPE declaration that they are XHTML 1.0 Transitional. > However, with the exception of the front page of the web site, they aren't; > none of them validate. > > I've started working on getting them to validate. > It's not difficult, it's just donkey work really, and I don't mind doing it, > but now that I've finished www/en/*sgml I'd like to get some feedback before > I go any further. > Perhaps we should ask doceng@ if they think all this work is worth the hassle. I'm not going to fight for my commit to stay in if it will cause anyone else headaches. I'm very easy to get along with. -- Tom Rhodes From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 5 08:21:28 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4DA237B401; Sat, 5 Apr 2003 08:21:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (pc1-cdif2-5-cust38.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.101.150.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD15143F3F; Sat, 5 Apr 2003 08:21:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.12) id 191qQ2-000LXp-00; Sat, 05 Apr 2003 17:21:26 +0100 Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 17:21:26 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: Tom Rhodes Message-ID: <20030405162126.GA76469@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Tom Rhodes , www@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org References: <20030405151719.GA75703@submonkey.net> <20030405102827.551d2023.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030405102827.551d2023.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: Ceri Davies cc: doc@FreeBSD.org cc: www@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: XHTML and the website X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2003 16:21:29 -0000 On Sat, Apr 05, 2003 at 10:28:27AM -0500, Tom Rhodes wrote: > > Perhaps we should ask doceng@ if they think all this work is worth > the hassle. I'm not going to fight for my commit to stay in if it > will cause anyone else headaches. I'm very easy to get along with. Oh, I know that ;^) To be honest, I've quite enjoyed doing this, so it's no hassle. I just want to get some consensus before I start making sweeping changes to the tree, plus I could do with a bit of input on whether I'm doing this The Right Way. I did consider CCing doceng@, but figured that all the members would read at least one of these lists anyway. Ceri -- User: DO YOU ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST AS YOUR PERSONAL LORD AND SAVIOR? Iniaes: Sure, I can accept all forms of payment. -- www.chatterboxchallenge.com From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 5 08:52:54 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC80A37B401; Sat, 5 Apr 2003 08:52:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E36AC43FAF; Sat, 5 Apr 2003 08:52:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mobile.pittgoth.com (acs-24-154-229-196.zoominternet.net [24.154.229.196]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id h35GqqBG043870; Sat, 5 Apr 2003 11:52:52 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 11:51:29 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes To: Ceri Davies Message-Id: <20030405115129.29ae8a32.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20030405162126.GA76469@submonkey.net> References: <20030405151719.GA75703@submonkey.net> <20030405102827.551d2023.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <20030405162126.GA76469@submonkey.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.10claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: doc@FreeBSD.org cc: www@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: XHTML and the website X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2003 16:52:55 -0000 On Sat, 5 Apr 2003 17:21:26 +0100 Ceri Davies wrote: > On Sat, Apr 05, 2003 at 10:28:27AM -0500, Tom Rhodes wrote: > > > > Perhaps we should ask doceng@ if they think all this work is worth > > the hassle. I'm not going to fight for my commit to stay in if it > > will cause anyone else headaches. I'm very easy to get along with. > > Oh, I know that ;^) Thanks, I try my best to interact with others in a friendly way. > > To be honest, I've quite enjoyed doing this, so it's no hassle. > I just want to get some consensus before I start making sweeping changes > to the tree, plus I could do with a bit of input on whether I'm doing this > The Right Way. Well, to be fair I think this is `The Right Way' to do things. I'll be happy to work with you on this, but lets get doceng@ approval before we make the changes. Your patch looks very good. > > I did consider CCing doceng@, but figured that all the members would read > at least one of these lists anyway. Everyone but ru, to the best of my knowledge. Ruslan is extremely busy with other things which require his attention so he unsubscribed. I've been keeping him up-to-date on some things. > > Ceri > -- > User: DO YOU ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST AS YOUR PERSONAL LORD AND SAVIOR? > Iniaes: Sure, I can accept all forms of payment. Your .sig rocks, you know. -- Tom Rhodes From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 5 11:53:58 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED84E37B401; Sat, 5 Apr 2003 11:53:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FEDA43F85; Sat, 5 Apr 2003 11:53:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: from localhost.localdomain (unknown[12.242.158.67]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53) with ESMTP id <20030405195357053002ldkve>; Sat, 5 Apr 2003 19:53:57 +0000 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h35Jq45F029306; Sat, 5 Apr 2003 11:52:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.6/8.12.5/Submit) id h35Jpwa5029303; Sat, 5 Apr 2003 11:51:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: jojo set sender to swear@attbi.com using -f To: Ceri Davies References: <20030405151719.GA75703@submonkey.net> <20030405102827.551d2023.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <20030405162126.GA76469@submonkey.net> From: swear@attbi.com (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 05 Apr 2003 11:51:58 -0800 In-Reply-To: <20030405162126.GA76469@submonkey.net> Message-ID: Lines: 27 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: Tom Rhodes cc: doc@FreeBSD.org cc: www@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: XHTML and the website X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2003 19:53:59 -0000 Ceri Davies writes: > I just want to get some consensus before I start making sweeping changes > to the tree, plus I could do with a bit of input on whether I'm doing this > The Right Way. You seem to be talking about a higher-level Right Way than the following, but I thought I'd mention it for those who don't already know about it. http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/#guidelines is titled "HTML Compatibility Guidelines" and it begins with "This appendix summarizes design guidelines for authors who wish their XHTML documents to render on existing HTML user agents." I wrote these notes while reading it about a year ago: -- use both the encoding attribute specification on the xml declaration (e.g. ) and a meta http-equiv statement (e.g. ). The value of the encoding attribute of the xml processing instruction takes precedence. -- Always use "&" for "&", esp. in attr. vals. -- Use
, not
and same for other empty elements. -- Use

, not

and same for other usually non-empty elements. -- Avoid line breaks and wider-than-one-char whitespace in attr. vals. -- Use both "lang" and xml:lang attr in elements (probably just in head & body (or html)). -- Use seemingly redundant ... -- Use lower case in tags. From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 5 13:49:21 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E092337B401; Sat, 5 Apr 2003 13:49:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from builder.freebsdmall.com (builder.freebsdmall.com [65.86.180.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58BB443FAF; Sat, 5 Apr 2003 13:49:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from murray@builder.freebsdmall.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by builder.freebsdmall.com (8.12.8/8.11.6) id h35LnKjU028938; Sat, 5 Apr 2003 13:49:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from murray) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 13:49:18 -0800 From: Murray Stokely To: Ceri Davies , www@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20030405134918.B43794@freebsdmall.com> References: <20030405151719.GA75703@submonkey.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20030405151719.GA75703@submonkey.net>; from ceri@freebsd.org on Sat, Apr 05, 2003 at 04:17:20PM +0100 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Subject: Re: XHTML and the website X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2003 21:49:22 -0000 What are the benefits of the full transition? What cool new XML tools will this allow us to use? How will this enhance the look and feel of the website? etc.. I'm not against it, but it seems like a lot of work that could be better spent improving the Handbook or something if there aren't some more apparent benefits. - Murray