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Modified files:
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en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/security chapter.sgml
Added files:
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Log:
Remove the bulging firewalls section from the security chapter into a
new chapter all its own, currently in the 'network communications'
part as chapter 24.
Add a small paragraph at the bottom of the security chapter synopsis
noting that additional security topics are covered in the MAC chapter
and the Firewall chapter.
While here add some missing punctuation, cleanup the whitespace, add
missing tags, add a synopsis, and of course
s/
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Log:
Update 'improve firewalls section' task to note that it's now a
separate chapter.
Add a new task about the DocBook/slides infrastructure that was
committed this summer, and point interested parties in the work that
needs to be done to make nicer looking updated slides from our
documentation set.
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On Sun, 5 Dec 2004 00:14:22 +0000 (UTC)
Murray Stokely wrote:
> murray 2004-12-05 00:14:22 UTC
>
> FreeBSD doc repository
>
> Modified files:
> en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook Makefile book.sgml chapters.ent
> en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/security chapter.sgml
> Added files:
> en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/firewalls Makefile chapter.sgml
> Log:
> Remove the bulging firewalls section from the security chapter into a
> new chapter all its own, currently in the 'network communications'
> part as chapter 24.
>
> Add a small paragraph at the bottom of the security chapter synopsis
> noting that additional security topics are covered in the MAC chapter
> and the Firewall chapter.
>
> While here add some missing punctuation, cleanup the whitespace, add
> missing tags, add a synopsis, and of course
> s/
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Murray Stokely wrote:
> murray 2004-12-05 00:26:18 UTC
>
> FreeBSD doc repository
>
> Modified files:
> en/docproj current.sgml
> Log:
> Update 'improve firewalls section' task to note that it's now a
> separate chapter.
>
> Add a new task about the DocBook/slides infrastructure that was
> committed this summer, and point interested parties in the work that
> needs to be done to make nicer looking updated slides from our
> documentation set.
Better idea,
Get a list of everything we would like to have seen done,
add it, discuss it. The security chapter work you've done has
ruined two patches of mine.
Granted the security chapter division discussion was on hold
as Remko is out of town but the FAQ (which I used the security
as a base since I had a WIP on the other one) was still on going
and reaching a wonderful end.
--
Tom Rhodes
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On Sat, Dec 04, 2004 at 07:55:21PM -0500, Tom Rhodes wrote:
> Thanks for letting me know you were doing this, it stomped all
> over the FAQ patch I had (still in discussion on -doc an reaching
> a resolution) along with my idea of sectioning off the security
> information (see the other discussion on -doc with Giorgos, Remko,
> etc).
This commit was required by your sectioning off of the security
information into a separate part. You said you'd put firewalls as a
chapter in a Security Part, and the discussion died after I said that
moving the firewalls chapter out into a separate chapter seemed to be
the point in common between the two proposals.
I'm sorry that it conflicted with your FAQ patch (which came up after
the discussion on moving the firewall chapter out). If you want to
mail it to me I'll do the grunt work of updating the patch then mail
it back to you.
- Murray
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Add my key.
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Add more ports counts.
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Subject: cvs commit: doc/fr_FR.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/advanced-networking
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basics/chapter.sgml 1.126 --> 1.127
config/chapter.sgml 1.189 --> 1.191
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Punctuation fix.
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Do not show the individual data-points since they just make the graph
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Add myself as committer
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Murray Stokely wrote:
> murray 2004-12-05 00:14:22 UTC
>
> FreeBSD doc repository
>
> Modified files:
> en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook Makefile book.sgml chapters.ent
> en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/security chapter.sgml
> Added files:
> en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/firewalls Makefile chapter.sgml
> Log:
> Remove the bulging firewalls section from the security chapter into a
> new chapter all its own, currently in the 'network communications'
> part as chapter 24.
>
> Add a small paragraph at the bottom of the security chapter synopsis
> noting that additional security topics are covered in the MAC chapter
> and the Firewall chapter.
>
> While here add some missing punctuation, cleanup the whitespace, add
> missing tags, add a synopsis, and of course
> s/
> Revision Changes Path
> 1.91 +1 -0 doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/Makefile
> 1.157 +5 -0 doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/book.sgml
> 1.29 +1 -0 doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/chapters.ent
> 1.1 +15 -0 doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/firewalls/Makefile (new)
> 1.1 +2868 -0 doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/firewalls/chapter.sgml (new)
> 1.250 +4 -2774 doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/security/chapter.sgml
Hi,
I feel a bit passed by by this commit :(. I was preparing a split of the
chapter as i mentioned on doc@. You even replied to that and still you
took this out of my hand without asking me or so.
Makes me feel a little sad.
So i would like to hear how we all can arrange that these things will
not happen again.
Thanks
--
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Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2004 10:27:23 +0100
From: Remko Lodder
To: Murray Stokely
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cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org, throdes@freebsd.org, Max Laier
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Murray Stokely wrote:
> murray 2004-12-05 00:14:22 UTC
>
> FreeBSD doc repository
>
> Modified files:
> en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook Makefile book.sgml chapters.ent
> en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/security chapter.sgml
> Added files:
> en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/firewalls Makefile chapter.sgml
> Log:
> Remove the bulging firewalls section from the security chapter into a
> new chapter all its own, currently in the 'network communications'
> part as chapter 24.
>
> Add a small paragraph at the bottom of the security chapter synopsis
> noting that additional security topics are covered in the MAC chapter
> and the Firewall chapter.
>
> While here add some missing punctuation, cleanup the whitespace, add
> missing tags, add a synopsis, and of course
> s/
> Revision Changes Path
> 1.91 +1 -0 doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/Makefile
> 1.157 +5 -0 doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/book.sgml
> 1.29 +1 -0 doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/chapters.ent
> 1.1 +15 -0 doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/firewalls/Makefile (new)
> 1.1 +2868 -0 doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/firewalls/chapter.sgml (new)
> 1.250 +4 -2774 doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/security/chapter.sgml
Hi,
I feel a bit passed by by this commit :(. I was preparing a split of the
chapter as i mentioned on doc@. You even replied to that and still you
took this out of my hand without asking me or so.
Makes me feel a little sad.
So i would like to hear how we all can arrange that these things will
not happen again.
Thanks
--
Kind regards,
Remko Lodder
FreeBSD (Dutch) Documentation Team
--
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Remko Lodder
FreeBSD (Dutch) Documentation Team
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On Sat, Dec 04, 2004 at 11:04:08PM +0000, Murray Stokely wrote:
> murray 2004-12-04 23:04:08 UTC
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> | @@ -65,7 +65,7 @@
> | the open documentation problem reports.
> | =20
> | =20
> | - FreeBSD Handbook 3rd Edition
> | + FreeBSD Handbook 3rd Edition
Hmm. Does that actually buy us anything in the way of maintainability?
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On 2004-12-06 11:50, Ceri Davies wrote:
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> > en/docproj current.sgml
> > Log:
> > Use CSS for headings instead of tags.
>
> > | @@ -65,7 +65,7 @@
> > | the open documentation problem reports.
> > |
> > |
> > | - FreeBSD Handbook 3rd Edition
> > | + FreeBSD Handbook 3rd Edition
>
> Hmm. Does that actually buy us anything in the way of maintainability?
Yes, CSS can buy us a lot in maintainability and consistency. We just
have to be a bit careful when we use it. For instance, in this change
the "red" class name should probably go away. Removing the class and
making all elements have a standard style with:
h3 {
color: maroon;
}
works too. It also lets us easily change the default appearance of H3
elements to a more blog-like style later on, without having to remember
what `red' means:
h3 {
color: #666;
margin: 0;
padding: 2em 0 2px 0;
border: 0;
border-bottom: 1px dashed #369;
}
I am very much in support of using CSS as much as possible for the style
of the pages, if it matters at all.
- Giorgos
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>> FreeBSD doc repository
>>
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> Hmm. Does that actually buy us anything in the way of maintainability?
it helps to remove style from content (from html to css file), so you can
change style things without the need of going through all html documents,
but we should leave basic style tags in html, in case a browser is not
able to render css, so the html file stays viewable in any case.
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Modified files:
tools buildpnms.sh
Log:
Correct a typo.
PR: www/74765
Submitted by: Dmitry Ivanov
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On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 02:03:20PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> On 2004-12-06 11:50, Ceri Davies wrote:
> > On Sat, Dec 04, 2004 at 11:04:08PM +0000, Murray Stokely wrote:
> > > murray 2004-12-04 23:04:08 UTC
> > >
> > > FreeBSD doc repository
> > >
> > > Modified files:
> > > en/docproj current.sgml
> > > Log:
> > > Use CSS for headings instead of tags.
> >
> > > | @@ -65,7 +65,7 @@
> > > | the open documentation problem reports.
> > > |
> > > |
> > > | - FreeBSD Handbook 3rd Edition
> > > | + FreeBSD Handbook 3rd Edition
> >
> > Hmm. Does that actually buy us anything in the way of maintainability?
>=20
> Yes, CSS can buy us a lot in maintainability and consistency. We just
> have to be a bit careful when we use it. For instance, in this change
> the "red" class name should probably go away. Removing the class and
> making all elements have a standard style with:
>=20
> h3 {
> color: maroon;
> }
>=20
> works too.
Everyone apart from you who has replied has totally missed the point.
I'm sold on CSS, just not on having a h3.red entry for red h3 elements.
Ceri
--=20
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm
not sure about the former. -- Einstein (attrib.)
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On 2004.12.06 13:09:17 +0000, Ceri Davies wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 02:03:20PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> > On 2004-12-06 11:50, Ceri Davies wrote:
> > > On Sat, Dec 04, 2004 at 11:04:08PM +0000, Murray Stokely wrote:
> > > > murray 2004-12-04 23:04:08 UTC
> > > >
> > > > FreeBSD doc repository
> > > >
> > > > Modified files:
> > > > en/docproj current.sgml
> > > > Log:
> > > > Use CSS for headings instead of tags.
> > >
> > > > | @@ -65,7 +65,7 @@
> > > > | the open documentation problem reports.
> > > > |
> > > > |
> > > > | - FreeBSD Handbook 3rd Edition
> > > > | + FreeBSD Handbook 3rd Edition
> > >
> > > Hmm. Does that actually buy us anything in the way of maintainabilit=
y?
> >=20
> > Yes, CSS can buy us a lot in maintainability and consistency. We just
> > have to be a bit careful when we use it. For instance, in this change
> > the "red" class name should probably go away. Removing the class and
> > making all elements have a standard style with:
> >=20
> > h3 {
> > color: maroon;
> > }
> >=20
> > works too.
>=20
> Everyone apart from you who has replied has totally missed the point.
> I'm sold on CSS, just not on having a h3.red entry for red h3 elements.
In my exprimental www/ tree, I have done it like this:
h1, h2, h3 {
color: #990000;
margin-bottom: 0.01em;
}
h2 A:visited, h2 A:link {
color: #990000;
}
Well, and a lot more, but I also agree that CSS is the way. I don't
really think there is any reason to care about non CSS browsers, wrt.
to layout / colors etc. if it's just still possible to see the
content.
--=20
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Remove email address of developers list, despite it having been here
in the past it's probably not a good idea to have it here. Note
4.11-PRERELEASE happened on schedule and adjust when to change
release.ent (it didn't seem to make sense to do it today).
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Update: G4 && Tecra 8000.
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> Hmm. Does that actually buy us anything in the way of maintainability?
I wasn't prepared to make all 's on our site show up in maroon,
although I probably should have rather than just added the 'red'
classname.
I think the intention is for all of them to be maroon, and it's just
an oversight when they show up in default black. We probably should
remove the class=red from this file, and just make all the h3's show
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> > Hmm. Does that actually buy us anything in the way of maintainability?
>=20
>=20
> I wasn't prepared to make all 's on our site show up in maroon,
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> classname.
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> I think the intention is for all of them to be maroon, and it's just
> an oversight when they show up in default black. We probably should
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I suspect that would be easier to live with ;-)
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> On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 11:50:45AM +0000, Ceri Davies wrote:
> > Hmm. Does that actually buy us anything in the way of maintainability?
>
>
> I wasn't prepared to make all 's on our site show up in maroon,
> although I probably should have rather than just added the 'red'
> classname.
>
> I think the intention is for all of them to be maroon, and it's just
> an oversight when they show up in default black. We probably should
> remove the class=red from this file, and just make all the h3's show
> up in maroon.
Perhaps we should sit down and come up with a valid color scheme
which we could all agree on? Not sure if we're just going to
use the current one or make changes but I think that should
be stated first. Thanks for doing this!
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On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 11:26:30AM -0500, Tom Rhodes wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 08:29:39 -0800
> Murray Stokely wrote:
>=20
> > On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 11:50:45AM +0000, Ceri Davies wrote:
> > > Hmm. Does that actually buy us anything in the way of maintainabilit=
y?
> >=20
> >=20
> > I wasn't prepared to make all 's on our site show up in maroon,
> > although I probably should have rather than just added the 'red'
> > classname.
> >=20
> > I think the intention is for all of them to be maroon, and it's just
> > an oversight when they show up in default black. We probably should
> > remove the class=3Dred from this file, and just make all the h3's show
> > up in maroon.
>=20
> Perhaps we should sit down and come up with a valid color scheme
> which we could all agree on?
I don't mind. I've started using blue in my own stuff (e.g.
http://shrike.submonkey.net/~ceri/doc/articles/dns-primer/) which I
think looks nicer than red, but that's a real bikeshed for now.
The real thing to get sorted is to get everything factored out into a
stylesheet somewhere, and then we can come up with individual
stylesheets and argue about them when we have a chance of making them
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> On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 11:26:30AM -0500, Tom Rhodes wrote:
> > On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 08:29:39 -0800
> > Murray Stokely wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 11:50:45AM +0000, Ceri Davies wrote:
> > > > Hmm. Does that actually buy us anything in the way of maintainability?
> > >
> > >
> > > I wasn't prepared to make all 's on our site show up in maroon,
> > > although I probably should have rather than just added the 'red'
> > > classname.
> > >
> > > I think the intention is for all of them to be maroon, and it's just
> > > an oversight when they show up in default black. We probably should
> > > remove the class=red from this file, and just make all the h3's show
> > > up in maroon.
> >
> > Perhaps we should sit down and come up with a valid color scheme
> > which we could all agree on?
>
> I don't mind. I've started using blue in my own stuff (e.g.
> http://shrike.submonkey.net/~ceri/doc/articles/dns-primer/) which I
> think looks nicer than red, but that's a real bikeshed for now.
>
> The real thing to get sorted is to get everything factored out into a
> stylesheet somewhere, and then we can come up with individual
> stylesheets and argue about them when we have a chance of making them
> work properly.
Very true, I'll shut up on the issue now as I really don't
care much whether the color is red, blue, black, green, etc. :)
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Remko,
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 10:27:23AM +0100, Remko Lodder wrote:
> I feel a bit passed by by this commit :(. I was preparing a split of the
> chapter as i mentioned on doc@. You even replied to that and still you
> took this out of my hand without asking me or so.
>=20
> Makes me feel a little sad.
>=20
> So i would like to hear how we all can arrange that these things will
> not happen again.
With the best will in the world, I don't think occurences like this are
things we're ever going to completely prevent, nor do I think that it's
necessarily a good idea to.
First, we're never going to completely prevent it: e-mail's a fallible=20
communication's medium. All it takes is someone to not see a message=20
posted, or to delete it (either inadvertently, or with over-active spam=20
filters). And people are fallible -- I know I don't always remember the=20
ins and outs of which committer's on holiday or unavailable for extended=20
periods of time.
Second, this is a collaborative project. Once there's consensus that
making a particular change is a good idea it doesn't really matter who
makes the change, as long as there's appropriate attribution in commit
messages (which Murray didn't do, I believe, and has offered to
force-commit to note this).
There have certainly been instances in the past where I've kicked off
the discussion about something, to discover part way through that I've
no longer got the time to do any of the actual work. But a consensus
emerges from the discussion, and whoever has the time (and the
inclination) does the actual changes and commits.
Sometimes this means that work gets 'trodden on'. If committer A makes
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been prepating to commit, it's common courtesy for A to offer to merge
their work with the changes B has prepared. And that's happened in the
past.
Of course, none of this is set in stone. What do others think?
N
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Nik Clayton wrote:
Nik,
> Remko,
>
>
> With the best will in the world, I don't think occurences like this are
> things we're ever going to completely prevent, nor do I think that it's
> necessarily a good idea to.
Well, i think that people can inform, i dont care about the credits or
so, but i do care about the time that is lost when doing things double.
Luckily i read the commit message by accident that saved me a hell lot
of time and a hell lot of anger.
>
> First, we're never going to completely prevent it: e-mail's a fallible
> communication's medium. All it takes is someone to not see a message
> posted, or to delete it (either inadvertently, or with over-active spam
> filters). And people are fallible -- I know I don't always remember the
> ins and outs of which committer's on holiday or unavailable for extended
> periods of time.
At least you tried then, eventhough email is indeed failable.
>
> Second, this is a collaborative project. Once there's consensus that
> making a particular change is a good idea it doesn't really matter who
> makes the change, as long as there's appropriate attribution in commit
> messages (which Murray didn't do, I believe, and has offered to
> force-commit to note this).
again i dont care about the credit. Informing is just a nice way of
saying hey, stop waisting your time, i did it for you instead of just
inserting the stuff.
>
> There have certainly been instances in the past where I've kicked off
> the discussion about something, to discover part way through that I've
> no longer got the time to do any of the actual work. But a consensus
> emerges from the discussion, and whoever has the time (and the
> inclination) does the actual changes and commits.
Well i had the time and such but it got taken away.
>
> Sometimes this means that work gets 'trodden on'. If committer A makes
> a 'surprise' change that invalidates a bunch of work committer B has
> been prepating to commit, it's common courtesy for A to offer to merge
> their work with the changes B has prepared. And that's happened in the
> past.
>
> Of course, none of this is set in stone. What do others think?
For me the problem is solved. I had spoken with Murray and others.
I will just focus on the part that was the reason for bringing
me into the doc team in the first place. The Dutch documentation.
>
> N
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On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 07:12:44PM +0000, Nik Clayton wrote:
> Remko,
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> On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 10:27:23AM +0100, Remko Lodder wrote:
> > I feel a bit passed by by this commit :(. I was preparing a split of the
> > chapter as i mentioned on doc@. You even replied to that and still you
> > took this out of my hand without asking me or so.
> >=20
> > Makes me feel a little sad.
> >=20
> > So i would like to hear how we all can arrange that these things will
> > not happen again.
>=20
> With the best will in the world, I don't think occurences like this are
> things we're ever going to completely prevent, nor do I think that it's
> necessarily a good idea to.
>=20
> First, we're never going to completely prevent it: e-mail's a fallible=20
> communication's medium. All it takes is someone to not see a message=20
> posted, or to delete it (either inadvertently, or with over-active spam=
=20
> filters). And people are fallible -- I know I don't always remember the=
=20
> ins and outs of which committer's on holiday or unavailable for extended=
=20
> periods of time.
>=20
> Second, this is a collaborative project. Once there's consensus that
> making a particular change is a good idea it doesn't really matter who
> makes the change, as long as there's appropriate attribution in commit
> messages (which Murray didn't do, I believe, and has offered to
> force-commit to note this).
>=20
> There have certainly been instances in the past where I've kicked off
> the discussion about something, to discover part way through that I've
> no longer got the time to do any of the actual work. But a consensus
> emerges from the discussion, and whoever has the time (and the
> inclination) does the actual changes and commits.
>=20
> Sometimes this means that work gets 'trodden on'. If committer A makes
> a 'surprise' change that invalidates a bunch of work committer B has
> been prepating to commit, it's common courtesy for A to offer to merge
> their work with the changes B has prepared. And that's happened in the
> past.
>=20
> Of course, none of this is set in stone. What do others think?
I agree with everything you said. It sucks, but it isn't the end of the
world. If it's trodden on work that you had outstanding, then it's nice
if committer A offers to help merge the changes. However, I also think
that this is the kind of thing that your parents teach you, and we don't
need rules for that here.
Ceri
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Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm
not sure about the former. -- Einstein (attrib.)
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Fix typo.
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Merge the following from the English version:
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