From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 18 14:42:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E80B516A4CE for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:42:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from bast.unixathome.org (bast.unixathome.org [66.11.174.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D53243D3F for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:42:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from wocker (wocker.unixathome.org [192.168.0.99]) by bast.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 223523D28 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 17:42:10 -0500 (EST) From: "Dan Langille" To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 17:42:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <400AC571.26896.16D82391@localhost> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Subject: very large daemon graphic X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 22:42:12 -0000 Hi folks, I'm trying to locate a very large version of this graphic. http://www.infoplex.com/unix/images/daemon-150.jpg Anyone see one around? Thanks. -- Dan Langille : http://www.langille.org/ From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 18 14:47:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 810A016A4CE for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:47:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1506D43D3F for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:47:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id i0IMkxh6078809; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 23:46:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by abigail.blackend.org (8.12.9/8.12.3/Submit) id i0IMkwxh078808; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 23:46:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 23:46:58 +0100 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Dan Langille Message-ID: <20040118234658.C69166@abigail.blackend.org> References: <400AC571.26896.16D82391@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <400AC571.26896.16D82391@localhost>; from dan@langille.org on Sun, Jan 18, 2004 at 05:42:09PM -0500 X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: very large daemon graphic X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 22:47:03 -0000 On Sun, Jan 18, 2004 at 05:42:09PM -0500, Dan Langille wrote: > Hi folks, > > I'm trying to locate a very large version of this graphic. > > http://www.infoplex.com/unix/images/daemon-150.jpg > > Anyone see one around? > /usr/share/examples/BSD_daemon Marc From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 18 14:55:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC04E16A4CE; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:55:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from bast.unixathome.org (bast.unixathome.org [66.11.174.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20C5643D3F; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:55:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from wocker (wocker.unixathome.org [192.168.0.99]) by bast.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 174B43D28; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 17:55:55 -0500 (EST) From: "Dan Langille" To: Marc Fonvieille Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 17:55:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <400AC8AA.28126.16E4BA90@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20040118234658.C69166@abigail.blackend.org> References: <400AC571.26896.16D82391@localhost>; from dan@langille.org on Sun, Jan 18, 2004 at 05:42:09PM -0500 X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: very large daemon graphic X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 22:55:57 -0000 On 18 Jan 2004 at 23:46, Marc Fonvieille wrote: > On Sun, Jan 18, 2004 at 05:42:09PM -0500, Dan Langille wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > > I'm trying to locate a very large version of this graphic. > > > > http://www.infoplex.com/unix/images/daemon-150.jpg > > > > Anyone see one around? > > > > /usr/share/examples/BSD_daemon Great idea! Thanks. Does anyone have this already in a GIF/JPG? Thanks. -- Dan Langille : http://www.langille.org/ From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 18 15:05:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 761A816A4CE for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 15:05:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from web41107.mail.yahoo.com (web41107.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.93.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D439A43D41 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 15:05:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scott@sremick.net) Message-ID: <20040118230514.89962.qmail@web41107.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.48.174.124] by web41107.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 15:05:14 PST X-RocketYMMF: siremick Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 15:05:14 -0800 (PST) From: "Scott I. Remick" To: Dan Langille , freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <400AC571.26896.16D82391@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: very large daemon graphic X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: scott@sremick.net List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 23:05:21 -0000 --- Dan Langille wrote: > I'm trying to locate a very large version of this graphic. > > http://www.infoplex.com/unix/images/daemon-150.jpg > > Anyone see one around? How about this? http://vtbsd.net/standing_daemon.jpg From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 18 15:08:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B518316A4CE; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 15:08:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from bast.unixathome.org (bast.unixathome.org [66.11.174.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D145643D2D; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 15:08:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from wocker (wocker.unixathome.org [192.168.0.99]) by bast.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5EA73D28; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 18:08:12 -0500 (EST) From: "Dan Langille" To: Marc Fonvieille Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 18:08:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <400ACB8C.2305.16EFFD07@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20040118234658.C69166@abigail.blackend.org> References: <400AC571.26896.16D82391@localhost>; from dan@langille.org on Sun, Jan 18, 2004 at 05:42:09PM -0500 X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: very large daemon graphic X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 23:08:14 -0000 On 18 Jan 2004 at 23:46, Marc Fonvieille wrote: > On Sun, Jan 18, 2004 at 05:42:09PM -0500, Dan Langille wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > > I'm trying to locate a very large version of this graphic. > > > > http://www.infoplex.com/unix/images/daemon-150.jpg > > > > Anyone see one around? > > > > /usr/share/examples/BSD_daemon I have a copy of that now. It's not high enough resolution. But thanks. -- Dan Langille : http://www.langille.org/ From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 18 15:22:51 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBC1716A4CE for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 15:22:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from winston.piwebs.com (217-19-20-186.dsl.cambrium.nl [217.19.20.186]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EC63443D45 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 15:22:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from avleeuwen@piwebs.com) Received: (qmail 5143 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2004 23:22:46 -0000 Received: from vincent.piwebs.com (192.168.0.97) by winston.piwebs.com with SMTP; 18 Jan 2004 23:22:45 -0000 From: Arjan van Leeuwen To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 00:22:46 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.94 References: <400AC571.26896.16D82391@localhost> In-Reply-To: <400AC571.26896.16D82391@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200401190022.46319.avleeuwen@piwebs.com> Subject: Re: very large daemon graphic X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: avleeuwen@piwebs.com List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 23:22:51 -0000 On Sunday 18 January 2004 23:42, Dan Langille wrote: > Hi folks, > > I'm trying to locate a very large version of this graphic. > > http://www.infoplex.com/unix/images/daemon-150.jpg > > Anyone see one around? Someone posted a vector-graphic based version of the daemon on this list some time ago. You can make that as big as you want. If you search the archives, you should be able to find it. If not, send me a mail, and I'll probably be able to find it somewhere in my own archives :). Arjan > > Thanks. From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 18 15:23:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19A0E16A4CE for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 15:23:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 909A443D62 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 15:23:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id i0INN6h6079198; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 00:23:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by abigail.blackend.org (8.12.9/8.12.3/Submit) id i0INN60H079197; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 00:23:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 00:23:06 +0100 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Dan Langille Message-ID: <20040119002306.D69166@abigail.blackend.org> References: <400AC571.26896.16D82391@localhost>; <400ACB8C.2305.16EFFD07@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <400ACB8C.2305.16EFFD07@localhost>; from dan@langille.org on Sun, Jan 18, 2004 at 06:08:12PM -0500 X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: very large daemon graphic X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 23:23:13 -0000 On Sun, Jan 18, 2004 at 06:08:12PM -0500, Dan Langille wrote: > On 18 Jan 2004 at 23:46, Marc Fonvieille wrote: > > > On Sun, Jan 18, 2004 at 05:42:09PM -0500, Dan Langille wrote: > > > Hi folks, > > > > > > I'm trying to locate a very large version of this graphic. > > > > > > http://www.infoplex.com/unix/images/daemon-150.jpg > > > > > > Anyone see one around? > > > > > > > /usr/share/examples/BSD_daemon > > I have a copy of that now. It's not high enough resolution. But > thanks. Did you tried the "1.41 dup scale" line as said in the README, it provides a poster in A3 format. Since it's vector gfx, you should be able to get any scale. Marc From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 18 15:48:05 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4E5A16A4CE; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 15:48:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from bast.unixathome.org (bast.unixathome.org [66.11.174.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2153A43D2F; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 15:48:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from wocker (wocker.unixathome.org [192.168.0.99]) by bast.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7178F3D28; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 18:48:02 -0500 (EST) From: "Dan Langille" To: Marc Fonvieille Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 18:48:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <400AD4E2.6975.171473C7@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20040119002306.D69166@abigail.blackend.org> References: <400ACB8C.2305.16EFFD07@localhost>; from dan@langille.org on Sun, Jan 18, 2004 at 06:08:12PM -0500 X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: very large daemon graphic X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 23:48:06 -0000 On 19 Jan 2004 at 0:23, Marc Fonvieille wrote: > On Sun, Jan 18, 2004 at 06:08:12PM -0500, Dan Langille wrote: > > On 18 Jan 2004 at 23:46, Marc Fonvieille wrote: > > > > > On Sun, Jan 18, 2004 at 05:42:09PM -0500, Dan Langille wrote: > > > > Hi folks, > > > > > > > > I'm trying to locate a very large version of this graphic. > > > > > > > > http://www.infoplex.com/unix/images/daemon-150.jpg > > > > > > > > Anyone see one around? > > > > > > > > > > /usr/share/examples/BSD_daemon > > > > I have a copy of that now. It's not high enough resolution. But > > thanks. > > Did you tried the "1.41 dup scale" line as said in the README, it > provides a poster in A3 format. Since it's vector gfx, you should be > able to get any scale. Ahh, OK, now I have a Postscript file. I need a JPG or GIF. Hmmm. -- Dan Langille : http://www.langille.org/ From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 18 15:49:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 385D716A4CE for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 15:49:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from bast.unixathome.org (bast.unixathome.org [66.11.174.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1B4543D48 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 15:49:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from wocker (wocker.unixathome.org [192.168.0.99]) by bast.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FA2E3D28; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 18:49:45 -0500 (EST) From: "Dan Langille" To: "Scott I. Remick" Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 18:49:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <400AD549.26767.171604DD@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20040118230514.89962.qmail@web41107.mail.yahoo.com> References: <400AC571.26896.16D82391@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: very large daemon graphic X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 23:49:47 -0000 On 18 Jan 2004 at 15:05, Scott I. Remick wrote: > > --- Dan Langille wrote: > > I'm trying to locate a very large version of this graphic. > > > > http://www.infoplex.com/unix/images/daemon-150.jpg > > > > Anyone see one around? > > How about this? > > http://vtbsd.net/standing_daemon.jpg That's big. But it's fuzzy. I need big and clear. I once found a gallery of such images. But I can't find it any more. Thanks. -- Dan Langille : http://www.langille.org/ From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 18 18:37:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B21716A4CE; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 18:37:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from holly.machined.net (adsl-208-191-149-232.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net [208.191.149.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB8D643D41; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 18:37:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@FreeBSD.org) Received: by holly.machined.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 740C5F32; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 20:40:55 -0600 (CST) From: Chris Costello To: Dan Langille In-Reply-To: <400AD4E2.6975.171473C7@localhost> References: <400ACB8C.2305.16EFFD07@localhost> ; <400AD4E2.6975.171473C7@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <1074480054.68970.15.camel@holly.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 20:40:55 -0600 cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: very large daemon graphic X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 02:37:33 -0000 On Sun, 2004-01-18 at 17:48, Dan Langille wrote: > Ahh, OK, now I have a Postscript file. I need a JPG or GIF. Hmmm. Use ImageMagick. [chris@holly BSD_daemon]% convert -size 2048 beastie.eps -resize 2048 ~/tmp/daemon/beastie.jpg [chris@holly BSD_daemon]% jhead ~/tmp/daemon/beastie.jpg File name : /usr/home/chris/tmp/daemon/beastie.jpg File size : 151517 bytes File date : 2004:01:18 20:35:31 Resolution : 2048 x 2224 Jpeg process : Baseline Comment : Image generated by GNU Ghostscript (device=pnmraw) -- Chris Costello FreeBSD Project http://www.FreeBSD.org/ TrustedBSD Project http://www.TrustedBSD.org/ From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 08:54:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 667A316A4CE for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 08:54:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from tatiana.utanet.at (tatiana.utanet.at [213.90.36.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E7DC43D4C for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 08:54:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from josef@daemon.li) Received: from patricia.utanet.at ([213.90.36.8]) by tatiana.utanet.at with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Aicf3-000665-00; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 17:54:01 +0100 Received: from dsl-156-105.utaonline.at ([62.218.156.105] helo=jenny.daemon.li) by patricia.utanet.at with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Aicf2-0008WO-00; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 17:54:00 +0100 Received: by jenny.daemon.li (Postfix, from userid 1005) id 8B64C12CD; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 17:54:28 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 17:54:28 +0100 From: Josef El-Rayes To: Arjan van Leeuwen Message-ID: <20040119165428.GA306@jenny.daemon.li> References: <400AC571.26896.16D82391@localhost> <200401190022.46319.avleeuwen@piwebs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="LQksG6bCIzRHxTLp" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200401190022.46319.avleeuwen@piwebs.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.9-STABLE cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: very large daemon graphic X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 16:54:08 -0000 --LQksG6bCIzRHxTLp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Arjan van Leeuwen wrote: > Someone posted a vector-graphic based version of the daemon on this list = some=20 > time ago. You can make that as big as you want. i mirrored it here: www.daemon.li/downloads/beastie.svg very nice image, i used it to create an about 1.5m high freebsd poster: http://gallery.daemon.li/20c3/p1010011.jpg.html -josef --=20 Josef El-Rayes (__) Email: josef@daemon.li \\\'',)=20 Web: http://daemon.li/ \/ \ ^ FreeBSD: josef@FreeBSD.org .\._/_) --LQksG6bCIzRHxTLp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (FreeBSD) iQEVAwUBQAwLxFnFItmnnbU8AQK+qQf/Z/l37KTIfHNT5ag2bvJpl3evf/IJmmuB zOysaOkpoOpdXhzywWx/DCarMevS9BQd1OZBS34SyfysoCNJX2Q9KfZs+XmE1Bzz Ul4HAqZ1A4ZC2LOaxPQQBhIzMYqma81RxSfJSSoSzqSTRrB5jo3muEe181jZuC+f 0uLqrUjKZajNTZxpdaProO9jqhogYM22pRJrE4JHCs1hZTuK0SOQQGlA8xOI9lm/ HHTSV8trhYA09S+XLIne9Pa4wBzKcNt/i7Rsw+TCtXWPLDzElfzaZwhmDwzXvdGk lDuH+U8oxd585U3BlTb+bszajio5PRsOc/QTboPe/yq8Icf0CAH6+w== =Ekco -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --LQksG6bCIzRHxTLp-- From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 10:55:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45D5B16A4CE for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 10:55:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from zeus.acuson.com (ac17860.acuson.com [157.226.71.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA20A43D2D for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 10:55:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from DavidJohnson@Siemens.com) Received: from mvaexch02 ([157.226.230.209]:4950 helo=mvaexch02.acuson.com) by zeus.acuson.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1AieYD-0004w6-3G; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 10:55:05 -0800 Received: by mvaexch02.acuson.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 10:48:01 -0800 Received: from dhcp-46-107.acuson.com ([157.226.46.107]) by mvaexch01.acuson.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2657.72) id VDN3DQXW; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 10:46:56 -0800 From: Johnson David To: Linh Pham Organization: Siemens Medical Systems Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 10:53:06 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 References: <20040118014215.GA60548@q.internal.closedsrc.org> In-Reply-To: <20040118014215.GA60548@q.internal.closedsrc.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200401191053.07027.DavidJohnson@Siemens.com> X-Scanner: exiscan for exim4 (http://duncanthrax.net/exiscan/) *1AieYD-0004w6-3G*rdzUy2xZ31w* cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Reply to V. Velox & questions about ``evangelism'' X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 18:55:20 -0000 On Saturday 17 January 2004 05:42 pm, Linh Pham wrote: > The other key points that I like to mention about FreeBSD include: > > Standardized file system and directory hierarchy > (fairly) common configuration file locations across installs > > when compared to the numerous Linux distributions. > > In almost all cases (when applications and services are installed via > Ports or packages), configuration files and file locations are the > same across all installs. No more trying to find out where Apache > configs are located between Linux distributions... ditto for OpenSSH, > dhclient, BIND, and not to mention, various MTAs. > > I guess it can be folded into ease of administration... :) I don't know if this would be useful when discussing FreeBSD with Linux users. They're already used to every distribution having different locations for everything. To them FreeBSD is going to have yet another set of locations, making it no different than another distro. I would keep this discussion, but alter it to emphasize that the file locations are "standard" across the various BSDs, follow the FHS, and aren't "link farms". David From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 14:31:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8111D16A4CF for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 14:31:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from fubar.adept.org (fubar.adept.org [63.147.172.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5C0143D1D for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 14:31:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@adept.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.adept.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 624EA15440 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 14:31:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from fubar.adept.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (fubar.adept.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id 47883-07 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 14:31:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from adept.org (mojo.televoke.net [63.237.196.133]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by fubar.adept.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25B2D15239 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 14:31:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <400C5AD0.7080506@adept.org> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 14:31:44 -0800 From: Mike Hoskins User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031110 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org References: <008001c3dc8a$624914a0$60d0fea9@workstation> <4008807B.5090105@sitetronics.com> <20040116162613.G91963@knight.ixsystems.net> <20040117000153.GA39482@pasternak.w.lub.pl> In-Reply-To: <20040117000153.GA39482@pasternak.w.lub.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Reply to V. Velox & questions about ``evangelism'' X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 22:31:47 -0000 Michal Pasternak wrote: > Matt Olander [Fri, Jan 16, 2004 at 04:26:13PM -0800]: >>good question. key points I always touch on are: >>ports collection > ... Gentoo Linux > ... pkgsrc > ... propably some more build systems I haven't heard of. lots, particularly lunar. so many linux distros do this now that i find it almost completely unjustifiable to use a distro that doesn't. (running something like rhe for the sake of oracle compliance would be one justification i can think of.) not that i'm a linux guy, but most modern linux' are more "bsd-like" than ever before. ;) >>From Gentoo Linux user's perspective, Portage build system will be better, > than FreeBSD Ports, just because s/he will be able to rebuild whole system, > not only 3rd-part apps using single interface. portage was basicly a linux user trying to reinvent ports... which turned out quite nicely, but could still be better. the freebsd ports collection is always evolving, as are the goals of other sub-project's port/package/build architecture/whatever. it's good to track what everyone's doing and present a comparison... but don't bother with personal bias, and make sure you keep it up to date. From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 20 03:50:51 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3599116A4CE for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 03:50:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail8.txucom.net (mail8.txucom.net [207.70.175.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6ADA243D3F for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 03:50:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bob@buckhorn.net) Received: (qmail 22210 invoked from network); 20 Jan 2004 11:47:58 -0000 Received: from lfkn-adsl-dhcp-net1-197.txucom.net (HELO tardis.buckhorn.net) ([207.70.145.197]) (envelope-sender ) by mail8.txucom.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 20 Jan 2004 11:47:58 -0000 Received: by tardis.buckhorn.net (Postfix, from userid 15) id 5EBC41B93A5; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 06:40:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from buckhorn.net (localhost.buckhorn.net [127.0.0.1]) by tardis.buckhorn.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E35AD1B938B for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 19:22:22 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <400C82CE.9020208@buckhorn.net> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 19:22:22 -0600 From: Bob Martin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i386; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org References: <008001c3dc8a$624914a0$60d0fea9@workstation> <4008807B.5090105@sitetronics.com> <20040116162613.G91963@knight.ixsystems.net> <20040117000153.GA39482@pasternak.w.lub.pl> <20040116173328.I91963@knight.ixsystems.net> In-Reply-To: <20040116173328.I91963@knight.ixsystems.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Reply to V. Velox & questions about ``evangelism'' X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 11:50:51 -0000 For some reason, I feel compelled to mention debian's apt program here. It's very much the same as the port upgrade tools, except it defaults to installing the package instead of building the port. Nice software, and every bit as functional and robust as the ports. I've not see my "pet reason for FBSD vs Linux in this thread, or at least mentioned in detail. Linux doesn't have an equivalent to MFC. If a cool new driver comes out, you have to change kernel's to get it. Far more importantly, if a nasty bug is found in your kernel, you'll have to change kernels to get rid of it. As Linux has matured, that's less of an issue than it was in the not too distant past, but you could still end up breaking something important to get a bug fix. Bob Martin Matt Olander wrote: > On Sat, Jan 17, 2004 at 01:01:54AM +0100, Michal Pasternak wrote: > >>... Gentoo Linux >>... pkgsrc >>... propably some more build systems I haven't heard of. >> >>>From Gentoo Linux user's perspective, Portage build system will be better, >>than FreeBSD Ports, just because s/he will be able to rebuild whole system, >>not only 3rd-part apps using single interface. > > > good point. I've never tried it myself, but I've heard it's fairly cool > if you're going to use linux. they don't anywhere near 10,000 ports > though do they? does it actually compile from source? > > cheers, > -matt > > >>Other your points are very important, there aren't many opensource operating >>systems, which provide such things. > > > yeah, let's come up with some more. > > From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 24 08:07:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D84F916A4CE for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 08:07:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from adsl-67-125-196-223.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net (adsl-67-125-196-223.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [67.125.196.223]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1206443D1F for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 08:07:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from leary@icq.com) Received: from icq.com (icq-mr2.icq.com [192.118.108.71])A3C8E7382E for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 11:05:43 -0500 From: Gregory Schurman To: Advocacy Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 11:05:43 -0500 Message-ID: <100101c3e293$b9587bea$84bc3d67@icq.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2605 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1082 X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1 (http://amavis.org/) Subject: Bulk email lists & distribution X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 16:07:13 -0000 Hello: Here is a list of fresh email databases we are offering. 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