From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 26 00:31:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A57E816A4CF for ; Sun, 26 Sep 2004 00:31:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 564F343D48 for ; Sun, 26 Sep 2004 00:31:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i8Q0VMsV051669; Sat, 25 Sep 2004 17:31:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id i8Q0VLRD051668; Sat, 25 Sep 2004 17:31:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 17:31:21 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Shaun Jurrens Message-ID: <20040926003121.GA51577@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <20040925114724.GH90420@atreides.freenix.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040925114724.GH90420@atreides.freenix.no> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A number of show-stopper bugs... X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 00:31:24 -0000 On Sat, Sep 25, 2004 at 01:47:24PM +0200, Shaun Jurrens wrote: > 1) Loading the sound and snd_via8233 modules after boot crashed my > machine within 30 minutes. I first received a ca. 50Hz white noise sound > before freezing the box and subsequent reboot. What model motherboard do you have? -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 26 02:47:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9116E16A4CE for ; Sun, 26 Sep 2004 02:47:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FD2143D46 for ; Sun, 26 Sep 2004 02:47:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i8Q2lX5b012477; Sat, 25 Sep 2004 19:47:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id i8Q2lUwB012476; Sat, 25 Sep 2004 19:47:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 19:47:30 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Fernan Aguero Message-ID: <20040926024730.GA2530@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <20040924210947.GC6597@iib.unsam.edu.ar> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040924210947.GC6597@iib.unsam.edu.ar> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd i386 on amd64 hardware? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 02:47:34 -0000 On Fri, Sep 24, 2004 at 06:09:47PM -0300, Fernan Aguero wrote: > I'm planning to buy a new box, and would like to move to > amd64 hardware. .. > My question would thus be: > is it possible to run 32-bit FreeBSD (4.x) on amd64 > hardware? It *SHOULD* work just fine. Others in this thread say it works great (and I myself use an Athlon64 as an 'i386' -CURRENT test build box). However, no one has spoken saying they run 4.10. FreeBSD/i386 will run on AMD64 hardware, the real question is are all the typical devices on AMD64 motherboards supported in 4.10. That I don't know. > PS: I've been reading the list for recommended > motherboards and chipsets and probably will be sticking to > an MSI with a Via K8T800 chipset. If you have other suggestions > I'll be more than glad to hear them. Thanks! I think you'll have a great experience with that particular choice. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 26 09:37:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABC2516A4CE for ; Sun, 26 Sep 2004 09:37:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lyra.enemy.org (lyra.enemy.org [62.116.11.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E28DC43D46 for ; Sun, 26 Sep 2004 09:37:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from acme@s2.enemy.org) Received: (qmail 13971 invoked from network); 26 Sep 2004 09:33:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO s2.enemy.org) (62.116.11.3) by lyra.enemy.org with SMTP; 26 Sep 2004 09:33:41 -0000 Received: from s2.enemy.org (acme@localhost.enemy.org [127.0.0.1]) by s2.enemy.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8Q9bOvJ013404 for ; Sun, 26 Sep 2004 11:37:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from acme@s2.enemy.org) Received: (from acme@localhost) by s2.enemy.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8Q9bNeJ013403 for freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org; Sun, 26 Sep 2004 11:37:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from acme) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 11:37:23 +0200 From: "Alex D'Elia" To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040926093723.GA86919@enemy.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jI8keyz6grp/JLjh" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.9-STABLE Organization: Olocolors.org X-GPG-Id: E7A6E8B5 [expires: 2005-03-03] X-GPG-Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu X-GPG-Fingerprint: 5C5A 4866 9B71 D200 FDCC 8878 0B63 A477 E7A6 E8B5 Subject: can't install ! X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 09:37:26 -0000 --jI8keyz6grp/JLjh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi dear people, i am following the developing of the 5.X branch since the beginning and i got a web server running beautifully on an old hardware with 5.2.1 FreeBSD. My server for users just died this august, and i planned to make it more powerful for the high user request. As i knew 5.3 would be coming out in semptember ( now october ) i decided to give a try to amd64 and did get the hardware. I got a normal IDE HardDisk, a good LG DVD, and easy nvidia and an ASUS K8V SE DELUXE, cause i read good about it and was cheap. Processor amd64 2800+ Now, i tried to install 5.2.1, and the beta versions of 5.3 but had no success, it always stops at the moment of creating the filesystems. i got famous ad0 FAILURE errors, and last, with 5.3-BETA5 a problem in finding /dev/swap node. There ofcourse it stops cause it cant create the filesystem to populate. So, if anyone got an idea if that has still to do with the current status, then i would patiently wait for the release, but if the problem might be related to something else then i must find a solutions. Or users will kill me :) thanks a lot, alex --=20 ** acme aka Alex D'Elia --> root.acme.com ** mail:: acme@enemy.org ** --jI8keyz6grp/JLjh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBVo3QC2Okd+em6LURAutaAJ0flkHNuUKIztOM4y5fyQQi0ER5FgCfXv0J saJaNzpqB43N/envkD7pdNg= =DIHg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jI8keyz6grp/JLjh-- From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 26 13:39:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77D0416A4CF for ; Sun, 26 Sep 2004 13:39:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out012.verizon.net (out012pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.137]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 060D043D49 for ; Sun, 26 Sep 2004 13:39:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dfeustel@mindspring.com) Received: from atlnga1-ar3-4-33-228-225.atlnga1.dsl-verizon.net ([4.33.228.225]) by out012.verizon.netESMTP <20040926133956.NLZC28066.out012.verizon.net@atlnga1-ar3-4-33-228-225.atlnga1.dsl-verizon.net>; Sun, 26 Sep 2004 08:39:56 -0500 From: Dave Feustel To: "Alex D'Elia" , freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 08:36:49 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.3 References: <20040926093723.GA86919@enemy.org> In-Reply-To: <20040926093723.GA86919@enemy.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200409260836.49821.dfeustel@mindspring.com> X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out012.verizon.net from [4.33.228.225] at Sun, 26 Sep 2004 08:39:56 -0500 Subject: Re: can't install ! X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: dfeustel@mindspring.com List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 13:39:57 -0000 On Sunday 26 September 2004 04:37 am, Alex D'Elia wrote: > Now, i tried to install 5.2.1, and the beta versions of 5.3 > but had no success, it always stops at the moment of creating > the filesystems. Try installing Openbsd 3.6 (either the 32-bit 386 version or the 64-bit amd version) from http://www.openbsd.org. If neither works, then the odds go up that you have a hardware problem. If one or the other version of openbsd works, then you could have a hardware or software problem (or both). If both openbsd versions work, then you probably have a software problem with the Freebsd you are loading. -- Dave Feustel 1-260-422-5330 http://www.mindspring.com/~dfeustel From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 26 20:34:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39A0A16A4CE for ; Sun, 26 Sep 2004 20:34:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freenix.no (atreides.freenix.no [212.33.142.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64F9A43D1F for ; Sun, 26 Sep 2004 20:34:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shamz@atreides.freenix.no) Received: from atreides.freenix.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freenix.no (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8QKYPGk052764 for ; Sun, 26 Sep 2004 22:34:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from shamz@atreides.freenix.no) Received: (from shamz@localhost) by atreides.freenix.no (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8QKYKYi052763 for freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org; Sun, 26 Sep 2004 22:34:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from shamz) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 22:34:20 +0200 From: Shaun Jurrens To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040926203420.GI90420@atreides.freenix.no> References: <20040925114724.GH90420@atreides.freenix.no> <20040926003121.GA51577@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040926003121.GA51577@dragon.nuxi.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.10-RELEASE-p2 X-Philosophy: If you can read this, you're too close. X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version 0.75.1, clamav-milter version 0.75c on atreides X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: A number of show-stopper bugs... X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 20:34:29 -0000 On Sat, Sep 25, 2004 at 05:31:21PM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: #> On Sat, Sep 25, 2004 at 01:47:24PM +0200, Shaun Jurrens wrote: #> > 1) Loading the sound and snd_via8233 modules after boot crashed my #> > machine within 30 minutes. I first received a ca. 50Hz white noise sound #> > before freezing the box and subsequent reboot. #> #> What model motherboard do you have? Asus K8V DELUXE-EAY #> #> -- #> -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) -- Yours truly, Shaun D. Jurrens shaun@shamz.net shamz@freenix.no Blomsterkroken 44B 1344 Haslum Norway Tel. Mobil: +47 9268 0049 From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 26 23:40:51 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7DBD16A4CE for ; Sun, 26 Sep 2004 23:40:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65D5E43D46 for ; Sun, 26 Sep 2004 23:40:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rob2@pythonemproject.com) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (c-67-169-203-186.client.comcast.net[67.169.203.186]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with ESMTP id <20040926234049011007e7vje> (Authid: europax); Sun, 26 Sep 2004 23:40:50 +0000 Message-ID: <415753BD.2040107@pythonemproject.com> Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 16:41:49 -0700 From: Rob User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040816 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org References: <20040924210947.GC6597@iib.unsam.edu.ar> <20040926024730.GA2530@dragon.nuxi.com> In-Reply-To: <20040926024730.GA2530@dragon.nuxi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Fernan Aguero Subject: Re: freebsd i386 on amd64 hardware? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 23:40:52 -0000 David O'Brien wrote: > On Fri, Sep 24, 2004 at 06:09:47PM -0300, Fernan Aguero wrote: > >>I'm planning to buy a new box, and would like to move to >>amd64 hardware. > > .. > >>My question would thus be: >>is it possible to run 32-bit FreeBSD (4.x) on amd64 >>hardware? > > > It *SHOULD* work just fine. Others in this thread say it works great > (and I myself use an Athlon64 as an 'i386' -CURRENT test build box). > However, no one has spoken saying they run 4.10. > > FreeBSD/i386 will run on AMD64 hardware, the real question is are all the > typical devices on AMD64 motherboards supported in 4.10. That I don't > know. > > >>PS: I've been reading the list for recommended >>motherboards and chipsets and probably will be sticking to >>an MSI with a Via K8T800 chipset. If you have other suggestions >>I'll be more than glad to hear them. Thanks! > > > I think you'll have a great experience with that particular choice. > The real question is whether AMD will change sockets again. But they claim on their site that legacy sockets will be supported. It makes choosing the chip/mobo very confusing. Frys here locally had about 10 Abit AV8's, all customer returns due to socket confusion. Rob. From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 27 00:43:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21A9016A4CE for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 00:43:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from error404.nls.net (error404.nls.net [216.144.36.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A150543D2F for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 00:43:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ketrien@error404.nls.net) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (eiterra.achedra.org [192.168.0.100]) by error404.nls.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8R0hlqP080555; Sun, 26 Sep 2004 20:43:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ketrien@error404.nls.net) Message-ID: <4157637F.9090009@error404.nls.net> Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 20:49:03 -0400 From: "Ketrien I. Saihr-Kesenchedra" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (Windows/20040803) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rob , freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org References: <20040924210947.GC6597@iib.unsam.edu.ar> <20040926024730.GA2530@dragon.nuxi.com> <415753BD.2040107@pythonemproject.com> In-Reply-To: <415753BD.2040107@pythonemproject.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: freebsd i386 on amd64 hardware? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 00:43:49 -0000 Rob wrote: > > The real question is whether AMD will change sockets again. But they > claim on their site that legacy sockets will be supported. It makes > choosing the chip/mobo very confusing. Frys here locally had about 10 > Abit AV8's, all customer returns due to socket confusion. Rob. Bearing in mind that I don't work for AMD, my understanding is that AMD has always planned on three sockets for the Athlon64 - 754 (single channel), originally because it can be put on a 5-layer PCB. Socket 940 for Opterons for dual channel, but requiring a 6-layer PCB. And Socket 939 because that one less pin allows for 5-layer PCBs and dual channel. As far as the AV8's, you can blame the idiots at Abit for that. I've even gotten someone there to admit that the model numbers are "confusing." Abit has the KV8, AV8 and AX8. The AV8 is socket 939. The KV8's are Socket 754. Confusion between KV8 and AV8 is a frequent problem. And now the AX8 will make it even more fun - KT890 chipset. (PCI-Express, socket 939.) (This is not helped by the Pentium4 boards - AA8, AG8, AS8...) -ksaihr From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 27 02:04:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFE8F16A4CE for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 02:04:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from front2.npgco.com (front2.npgco.com [207.192.213.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 809D443D49 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 02:04:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jlfenton@npgcable.com) Received: from [24.121.45.49] ([24.121.45.49]) by front2.npgco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8R24i7Z017720 for ; Sun, 26 Sep 2004 21:04:44 -0500 Message-ID: <41577570.6020000@npgcable.com> Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 19:05:36 -0700 From: Joseph Fenton User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040803 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org References: <20040924210947.GC6597@iib.unsam.edu.ar> <20040926024730.GA2530@dragon.nuxi.com> <415753BD.2040107@pythonemproject.com> <4157637F.9090009@error404.nls.net> In-Reply-To: <4157637F.9090009@error404.nls.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: freebsd i386 on amd64 hardware? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 02:04:46 -0000 Ketrien I. Saihr-Kesenchedra wrote: > > Bearing in mind that I don't work for AMD, my understanding is that > AMD has always planned on three sockets for the Athlon64 - 754 (single > channel), originally because it can be put on a 5-layer PCB. Socket > 940 for Opterons for dual channel, but requiring a 6-layer PCB. And > Socket 939 because that one less pin allows for 5-layer PCBs and dual > channel. The 754 socket (one HT port and single-channel mem) was destined for laptops. The 940 (three HT ports and dual-channel mem) needs the extra layers for proper operation. The 939 keeps the dual-channel, but replaces two of the HT ports with extra power and ground pins. All the extra power and ground pins means less current surge and therefore needs fewer layers. Making it one pin less keeps you from accidentally sticking it in the wrong socket. From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 27 02:49:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0738616A4CE for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 02:49:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.ohiordc.rr.com (ms-smtp-02-smtplb.ohiordc.rr.com [65.24.5.136]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93D0043D31 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 02:49:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owen@safeasmilk.net) Received: from www.safeasmilk.net (dhcp024-210-127-031.ma.rr.com [24.210.127.31])i8R2nina007313 for ; Sun, 26 Sep 2004 22:49:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (unknown [192.168.1.2]) by www.safeasmilk.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B4B932C50 for ; Sun, 26 Sep 2004 22:55:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <41577F37.8010204@safeasmilk.net> Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 22:47:19 -0400 From: Owen Becker User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (X11/20040922) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: G400 and mga_hal X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 02:49:47 -0000 My current project is to get my G400 working with two monitors. I'm using 5.3 Beta 6 amd64 with the options "agp" and "mgadrm" compiled into the kernel. When I start X (latest x.org from ports) it gripes about missing mga_hal. Is the mga_hal driver supported with FreeBSD amd64? Thanks in advance. Attached is my dmesg and xorg.conf: Copyright (c) 1992-2004 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.3-BETA6 #7: Sun Sep 26 21:20:48 EDT 2004 root@kamala.safeasmilk.net:/usr/src/sys/amd64/compile/KAMALA Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ (1999.95-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0xf48 Stepping = 8 Features=0x78bfbff AMD Features=0xe0500800 real memory = 536805376 (511 MB) avail memory = 510140416 (486 MB) ACPI APIC Table: ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x4008-0x400b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 acpi_button0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 agp0: mem 0xd0000000-0xd7ffffff at device 0.0 on pci0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 drm0: mem 0xdb000000-0xdb7fffff,0xda000000-0xda003fff,0xd8000000-0xd9ffffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci1 info: [drm] AGP at 0xd0000000 128MB info: [drm] Initialized mga 3.1.0 20021029 on minor 0 dc0: port 0x9000-0x90ff mem 0xde000000-0xde0003ff irq 18 at device 10.0 on pci0 miibus0: on dc0 ukphy0: on miibus0 ukphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto dc0: Ethernet address: 00:04:5a:7f:e3:81 dc0: [GIANT-LOCKED] pcm0: port 0x9400-0x941f irq 19 at device 11.0 on pci0 pcm0: atapci0: port 0xb000-0xb0ff,0xac00-0xac0f,0xa800-0xa803,0xa400-0xa407,0xa000-0xa003,0x9c00-0x9c07 irq 20 at device 15.0 on pci0 ata2: channel #0 on atapci0 ata3: channel #1 on atapci0 atapci1: port 0xb400-0xb40f,0x376,0x170-0x177,0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 15.1 on pci0 ata0: channel #0 on atapci1 ata1: channel #1 on atapci1 uhci0: port 0xb800-0xb81f irq 21 at device 16.0 on pci0 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0xbc00-0xbc1f irq 21 at device 16.1 on pci0 uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2: port 0xc000-0xc01f irq 21 at device 16.2 on pci0 uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb2: on uhci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci3: port 0xc400-0xc41f irq 21 at device 16.3 on pci0 uhci3: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb3: on uhci3 usb3: USB revision 1.0 uhub3: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ums0: Logitech USB-PS/2 Trackball, rev 1.00/2.00, addr 2, iclass 3/1 ums0: 3 buttons and Z dir. ulpt0: hp deskjet 3320, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 3, iclass 7/1 ulpt0: using bi-directional mode pci0: at device 16.4 (no driver attached) isab0: at device 17.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 rl0: port 0xc800-0xc8ff mem 0xde002000-0xde0020ff irq 18 at device 19.0 on pci0 miibus1: on rl0 rlphy0: on miibus1 rlphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto rl0: Ethernet address: 00:0d:61:12:70:e5 atkbdc0: port 0x64,0x60 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] orm0: at iomem 0xc8000-0xcbfff,0xc0000-0xc7fff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounter "TSC" frequency 1999950545 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 0.976 msec ad0: 76318MB [155058/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA100 ad1: 38165MB [77542/16/63] at ata0-slave UDMA100 ATAPI_RESET time = 1500us ATAPI_RESET time = 20us ata1-slave: WARNING - SETFEATURES SET TRANSFER MODE no interrupt but good status ata1-slave: WARNING - SETFEATURES SET TRANSFER MODE no interrupt but good status acd0: DVDR <_NEC DVD_RW ND-1300A/1.06> at ata1-master UDMA33 acd1: CDRW at ata1-slave UDMA33 ad4: 76319MB [155061/16/63] at ata2-master SATA150 ad6: 76319MB [155061/16/63] at ata3-master SATA150 cd0 at ata1 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 cd0: <_NEC DVD_RW ND-1300A 1.06> Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device cd0: 33.000MB/s transfers cd0: cd present [17668 x 2048 byte records] cd1 at ata1 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 cd1: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device cd1: 33.000MB/s transfers cd1: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad1s1a Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "X.org Configured" Screen "Screen 0" 0 0 Screen "Screen 1" LeftOf "Screen 0" InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" Option "Xinerama" EndSection Section "Files" RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" EndSection Section "Module" Load "extmod" Load "glx" Load "dri" Load "dbe" Load "record" Load "xtrap" Load "speedo" Load "type1" Load "freetype" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "keyboard" Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:nocaps" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "DEL" ModelName "DELL P991" HorizSync 60 - 120 VertRefresh 50 - 120 Option "DPMS" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor1" VendorName "Monitor Vendor" ModelName "Monitor Model" HorizSync 60-120 VertRefresh 50-120 Modeline "1024x768" 94.50 1024 1072 1168 1376 768 777 780 816 +hsync +vsync EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "G400_1" Driver "mga" VendorName "Matrox Graphics, Inc." Option "Agp" "1" BusID "PCI:1:0:0" Screen 0 EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "G400_2" Driver "mga" VendorName "Matrox Graphics, Inc." Option "Agp" "1" BusID "PCI:1:0:0" Screen 1 EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "G400_1" Monitor "Monitor0" DefaultDepth 16 SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 16 Modes "1024x768" EndSubSection EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen1" Device "G400_2" Monitor "Monitor1" DefaultDepth 16 SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 16 Modes "1024x768" EndSubSection EndSection From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 27 04:15:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F73C16A4CE for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 04:15:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ED4C43D1D for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 04:15:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i8R4FUiB003900; Sun, 26 Sep 2004 21:15:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id i8R4FUT0003899; Sun, 26 Sep 2004 21:15:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 21:15:30 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Owen Becker Message-ID: <20040927041530.GA3853@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <41577F37.8010204@safeasmilk.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41577F37.8010204@safeasmilk.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: G400 and mga_hal X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 04:15:32 -0000 On Sun, Sep 26, 2004 at 10:47:19PM -0400, Owen Becker wrote: > My current project is to get my G400 working with two monitors. I'm > using 5.3 Beta 6 amd64 with the options "agp" and "mgadrm" compiled > into the kernel. > When I start X (latest x.org from ports) it gripes about missing > mga_hal. Is the mga_hal driver supported with FreeBSD amd64? Thanks in > advance. I get the same on my 32-bit x86 machine using a G550. I don't know that FreeBSD has ever had a mga_hal driver. Have we? -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 27 10:27:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9308B16A4CE for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 10:27:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from peedub.jennejohn.org (Ge3b0.g.pppool.de [80.185.227.176]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C13C243D1F for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 10:27:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from garyj@jennejohn.org) Received: from jennejohn.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by peedub.jennejohn.org (8.13.1/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i8RARPN9004994 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 12:27:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from garyj@jennejohn.org) Message-Id: <200409271027.i8RARPN9004994@peedub.jennejohn.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.7.0 06/18/2004 with nmh-1.0.4 To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: Message from "David O'Brien" <20040927041530.GA3853@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 12:27:25 +0200 From: Gary Jennejohn Subject: Re: G400 and mga_hal X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 10:27:33 -0000 "David O'Brien" writes: > I get the same on my 32-bit x86 machine using a G550. I don't know that > FreeBSD has ever had a mga_hal driver. Have we? > Nope. I had to download the Linux drivers from the vendor's site and use the mga_hal.o from that. The last time I looked (some months ago), only 32 bit drivers were available. This forced me to switch to a different graphibs card for AMD64 in order to use DVI with my flat panel :-/ --- Gary Jennejohn / garyj[at]jennejohn.org gj[at]freebsd.org garyj[at]denx.de From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 27 11:01:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADF4B16A4D2 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 11:01:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A137743D3F for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 11:01:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (peter@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8RB1uuL014586 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 11:01:56 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8RB1tB4014580 for freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 11:01:55 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 11:01:55 GMT Message-Id: <200409271101.i8RB1tB4014580@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Subject: Current problem reports assigned to you X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 11:01:56 -0000 Current FreeBSD problem reports Critical problems Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2003/11/26] amd64/59714 amd64 device timeout and ad0: WARNING - WRITE_D o [2004/06/09] amd64/67745 amd64 boot fails on compaq presario r3000z o [2004/07/28] amd64/69704 amd64 ext2/ext3 unstable in amd64 o [2004/07/28] amd64/69707 amd64 IPC32 dont work OK in amd64 FreeBSD o [2004/09/07] amd64/71471 amd64 Can not install 5.3beta3/amd64 on IBM eSe 5 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2004/01/11] amd64/61209 amd64 ppc0: cannot reserve I/O port range o [2004/02/21] amd64/63188 amd64 ti(4) broken on amd64 o [2004/07/28] amd64/69705 amd64 IPC problem (msq_queues) o [2004/07/28] amd64/69709 amd64 ACPI enabled then floppy don't work (5.2. o [2004/07/28] amd64/69712 amd64 no DRI (hardware OpenGL) for ATI Radeon 9 o [2004/08/15] amd64/70500 amd64 bge driver for 3Com 3C996B on amd64 preve o [2004/09/12] amd64/71674 amd64 static libraries cannot be linked when bu o [2004/09/15] amd64/71753 amd64 DRI loads but fails to render on Radeon 9 8 problems total. From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 27 15:45:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E2A616A4CE for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 15:45:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A81E43D2D for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 15:45:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rob2@pythonemproject.com) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (c-67-169-203-186.client.comcast.net[67.169.203.186]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with ESMTP id <2004092715454001300lqlkne> (Authid: europax); Mon, 27 Sep 2004 15:45:40 +0000 Message-ID: <415835EB.9060600@pythonemproject.com> Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 08:46:51 -0700 From: Rob User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040816 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joseph Fenton References: <20040924210947.GC6597@iib.unsam.edu.ar> <20040926024730.GA2530@dragon.nuxi.com> <415753BD.2040107@pythonemproject.com> <4157637F.9090009@error404.nls.net> <41577570.6020000@npgcable.com> In-Reply-To: <41577570.6020000@npgcable.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd i386 on amd64 hardware? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 15:45:41 -0000 Joseph Fenton wrote: > Ketrien I. Saihr-Kesenchedra wrote: > >> >> Bearing in mind that I don't work for AMD, my understanding is that >> AMD has always planned on three sockets for the Athlon64 - 754 (single >> channel), originally because it can be put on a 5-layer PCB. Socket >> 940 for Opterons for dual channel, but requiring a 6-layer PCB. And >> Socket 939 because that one less pin allows for 5-layer PCBs and dual >> channel. > > > The 754 socket (one HT port and single-channel mem) was destined for > laptops. The 940 (three HT ports and dual-channel mem) needs the extra > layers for proper operation. The 939 keeps the dual-channel, but replaces > two of the HT ports with extra power and ground pins. All the extra power > and ground pins means less current surge and therefore needs fewer layers. > Making it one pin less keeps you from accidentally sticking it in the wrong > socket. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-amd64 > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-amd64-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Thanks guys for the clarification. Rob. From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 27 15:48:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E549916A4CE for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 15:48:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mout1.freenet.de (mout1.freenet.de [194.97.50.132]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 744BE43D5C for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 15:48:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from u0@rootofallevil.net) Received: from [194.97.55.192] (helo=mx8.freenet.de) by mout1.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.42) id 1CBxjv-0001VC-Mv for freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 17:48:35 +0200 Received: from pd9e0ca70.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.224.202.112] helo=arthur.local)#1) id 1CBxjv-00043N-F0 for freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 17:48:35 +0200 Received: from zaphod.local (zaphod.local [192.168.1.3]) by arthur.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5755D41A3C for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 17:48:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from zaphod.local (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zaphod.local (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i8RFmU7H004568 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 17:48:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from flo@zaphod.local) Received: (from flo@localhost) by zaphod.local (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id i8RFmUPs004567 for freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 17:48:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from flo) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 17:48:30 +0200 From: Florian Unglaub To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040927154830.GA663@zaphod.local> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.3-BETA5 i386 X-Homepage: http://rootofallevil.net X-Phone: +49-9231-702360 X-Mobile: +49-160-91833319 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B02D 0E45 3E54 A275 0ED6 116C 617D 3B16 618B 1A14 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: Mainboard Socket 754 sugestion X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 15:48:37 -0000 Hello, I want to buy an AMD Athlon64 (3000 or 3200 MHz) in the next time. But I am not sure, which mainboard I should buy. I just wanted to ask, who made a good experience with a certain board. It' s important for me that the onboard soundcard and the NIC will be supported bye FreeBSD-Current and maybe that gimmicks like 'xmbmon' (displays CPU temperature etc.) will work. Greetings, Florian. -- Florian Unglaub GnuPG Key ID: FE3A7C44 http://rootofallevil.net/files/flo.pub.asc No ePatents: From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 27 15:54:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E20816A4CE for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 15:54:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 083FB43D3F for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 15:54:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rob2@pythonemproject.com) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (c-67-169-203-186.client.comcast.net[67.169.203.186]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with ESMTP id <200409271554050150095ue5e> (Authid: europax); Mon, 27 Sep 2004 15:54:05 +0000 Message-ID: <415837E3.8000105@pythonemproject.com> Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 08:55:15 -0700 From: Rob User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040816 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: amd-list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Partioning for a FBSD-64 install X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 15:54:06 -0000 1. Is it my imagination or is a 64 bit install going to take twice the space of a regular 32 bit one? 2. I have seperate SCSI drives, one for XP-64 and one for FreeBSD-64. In the past I have used grub to boot between OS's. If #1 is true then grub will no longer be on a floppy and will have to become bootable CD unless useable in emulation mode. Is there a grub port for 64? Thanks, Rob. From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 27 16:00:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16FE516A4CE for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 16:00:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.devrandom.org.uk (mail.devrandom.org.uk [84.92.10.242]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65F9D43D39 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 16:00:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from howells@kde.org) Received: from localhost (frodo [192.168.1.8]) by mail.devrandom.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8196FAFB2 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 18:01:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.devrandom.org.uk ([192.168.1.8]) by localhost (frodo [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 57816-04 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 18:01:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from [192.168.1.184] (unknown [192.168.1.184]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.devrandom.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91E15AFA7 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 18:01:28 +0100 (BST) From: Chris Howells Organization: K Desktop Environment To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 17:00:21 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <20040927154830.GA663@zaphod.local> In-Reply-To: <20040927154830.GA663@zaphod.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200409271700.21310.howells@kde.org> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at devrandom.org.uk Subject: Re: Mainboard Socket 754 sugestion X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 16:00:20 -0000 On Monday 27 September 2004 16:48, Florian Unglaub wrote: > I want to buy an AMD Athlon64 (3000 or 3200 MHz) in the next time. But I Note that Athlon 64 3000+, does not mean that it runs at 3000MHz. It runs at about 2.2 Ghz. > am not sure, which mainboard I should buy. I just wanted > to ask, who made a good experience with a certain board. It' s important > for me that the onboard soundcard and the NIC will be supported bye > FreeBSD-Current and maybe that gimmicks like 'xmbmon' (displays CPU > temperature etc.) will work. 32 bit FreeBSD is working nicely on a MSI K8T Neo here, I'm still in the process of experimenting with the 64bit version. Dunno about xmbmon but sound and onboard GigE are fine. -- Cheers, Chris Howells -- chris@chrishowells.co.uk, howells@kde.org Web: http://chrishowells.co.uk, PGP ID: 0x33795A2C KDE/Qt/C++/PHP Developer: http://www.kde.org From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 27 16:05:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC29616A4CF for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 16:05:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mout1.freenet.de (mout1.freenet.de [194.97.50.132]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5362D43D48 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 16:05:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from u0@rootofallevil.net) Received: from [194.97.55.148] (helo=mx5.freenet.de) by mout1.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.42) id 1CBy0D-0005ck-I2 for freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 18:05:25 +0200 Received: from pd9e0ca70.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.224.202.112] helo=arthur.local)#1) id 1CBy0A-0001Et-IF for freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 18:05:25 +0200 Received: from zaphod.local (zaphod.local [192.168.1.3]) by arthur.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3151E41A3C for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 18:05:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from zaphod.local (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zaphod.local (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i8RG52hU004757 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 18:05:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from flo@zaphod.local) Received: (from flo@localhost) by zaphod.local (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id i8RG5136004756 for freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 18:05:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from flo) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 18:05:01 +0200 From: Florian Unglaub To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040927160501.GB663@zaphod.local> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org References: <20040927154830.GA663@zaphod.local> <200409271700.21310.howells@kde.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200409271700.21310.howells@kde.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.3-BETA5 i386 X-Homepage: http://rootofallevil.net X-Phone: +49-9231-702360 X-Mobile: +49-160-91833319 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B02D 0E45 3E54 A275 0ED6 116C 617D 3B16 618B 1A14 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: Re: Mainboard Socket 754 sugestion X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 16:05:26 -0000 On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 05:00:21PM +0100, Chris Howells wrote: > On Monday 27 September 2004 16:48, Florian Unglaub wrote: > > I want to buy an AMD Athlon64 (3000 or 3200 MHz) in the next time. But I > > Note that Athlon 64 3000+, does not mean that it runs at 3000MHz. It runs at > about 2.2 Ghz. Yes, I know that :-) Just forgot the '+'. > > am not sure, which mainboard I should buy. I just wanted > > to ask, who made a good experience with a certain board. It' s important > > for me that the onboard soundcard and the NIC will be supported bye > > FreeBSD-Current and maybe that gimmicks like 'xmbmon' (displays CPU > > temperature etc.) will work. > > 32 bit FreeBSD is working nicely on a MSI K8T Neo here, I'm still in the > process of experimenting with the 64bit version. > Dunno about xmbmon but sound and onboard GigE are fine. Hm, that sounds fine. Anyone tested one of the Asus boards? -- Florian Unglaub GnuPG Key ID: FE3A7C44 http://rootofallevil.net/files/flo.pub.asc No ePatents: From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 27 16:14:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEA4816A4CE for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 16:14:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pimout2-ext.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32C4343D53 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 16:14:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@immure.com) Received: from maul.immure.com (adsl-66-136-206-1.dsl.austtx.swbell.net [66.136.206.1])i8RGE0xQ161644; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 12:14:00 -0400 Received: from luke.immure.com (luke.immure.com [10.1.132.3]) by maul.immure.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8RGDuuc042158; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 11:13:56 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from bob@immure.com) Received: from luke.immure.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by luke.immure.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8RGDu7S040593; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 11:13:56 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from bob@luke.immure.com) Received: (from bob@localhost) by luke.immure.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8RGDuV7040592; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 11:13:56 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from bob) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 11:13:56 -0500 From: Bob Willcox To: Rob Message-ID: <20040927161356.GB38998@luke.immure.com> References: <415837E3.8000105@pythonemproject.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <415837E3.8000105@pythonemproject.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-immure-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-immure-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: bob@immure.com cc: amd-list Subject: Re: Partioning for a FBSD-64 install X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Bob Willcox List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 16:14:02 -0000 On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 08:55:15AM -0700, Rob wrote: > 1. Is it my imagination or is a 64 bit install going to take twice the > space of a regular 32 bit one? Not in my experience. Two systems I have here suggest that although the 64-bit binaries are larger, they are no where near double in size. bob@sidious:pg /usr/bin> uname -a FreeBSD sidious.austin.ibm.com 5.3-BETA5 FreeBSD 5.3-BETA5 #9: Mon Sep 20 13:15:31 CDT 2004 bob@sidious.austin.ibm.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SIDIOUS i386 bob@sidious:pg /usr/bin> du 21418 . bob@qui-gon:p2 /usr/bin> uname -a FreeBSD qui-gon.immure.com 5.3-BETA5 FreeBSD 5.3-BETA5 #16: Fri Sep 24 14:31:21 CDT 2004 bob@qui-gon.immure.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/QUI-GON amd64 bob@qui-gon:p2 /usr/bin> du 26972 . Bob > 2. I have seperate SCSI drives, one for XP-64 and one for FreeBSD-64. > In the past I have used grub to boot between OS's. If #1 is true > then grub will no longer be on a floppy and will have to become > bootable CD unless useable in emulation mode. Is there a grub port for 64? Well, I know nothing about grub... :-) Bob -- Bob Willcox Acquaintance, n.: bob@immure.com A person whom we know well enough to borrow from, Austin, TX but not well enough to lend to. -- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary" From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 27 16:23:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2EE516A4FE for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 16:23:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ares.wolfpond.org (ns1.wolfpond.org [62.212.96.219]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDA6C43D1F for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 16:23:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ftigeot@wolfpond.org) Received: from aoi.wolfpond.org (aoi.wolfpond.org [IPv6:2001:7a8:24db:1:20c:76ff:feb4:27e1]) by ares.wolfpond.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i8RGNbNa069274; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 18:23:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ftigeot@aoi.wolfpond.org) Received: from aoi.wolfpond.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aoi.wolfpond.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i8RGNeN5050495; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 18:23:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ftigeot@aoi.wolfpond.org) Received: (from ftigeot@localhost) by aoi.wolfpond.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id i8RGNewM050494; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 18:23:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ftigeot) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 18:23:40 +0200 From: Francois Tigeot To: Chris Howells Message-ID: <20040927162340.GA50351@aoi.wolfpond.org> References: <20040927154830.GA663@zaphod.local> <200409271700.21310.howells@kde.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200409271700.21310.howells@kde.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mainboard Socket 754 sugestion X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 16:23:41 -0000 On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 05:00:21PM +0100, Chris Howells wrote: > On Monday 27 September 2004 16:48, Florian Unglaub wrote: > > I want to buy an AMD Athlon64 (3000 or 3200 MHz) in the next time. But I > > 32 bit FreeBSD is working nicely on a MSI K8T Neo here, I'm still in the > process of experimenting with the 64bit version. > > Dunno about xmbmon but sound and onboard GigE are fine. On the same hardware xmbmon works fine in 64-bit mode. -- Francois Tigeot From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 27 16:25:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E42916A4CE for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 16:25:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1424043D39 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 16:25:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rob2@pythonemproject.com) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (c-67-169-203-186.client.comcast.net[67.169.203.186]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with ESMTP id <200409271625020140084c1ke> (Authid: europax); Mon, 27 Sep 2004 16:25:02 +0000 Message-ID: <41583F24.40305@pythonemproject.com> Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 09:26:12 -0700 From: Rob User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040816 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bob Willcox , amd-list References: <415837E3.8000105@pythonemproject.com> <20040927161356.GB38998@luke.immure.com> In-Reply-To: <20040927161356.GB38998@luke.immure.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Partioning for a FBSD-64 install X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 16:25:03 -0000 Bob Willcox wrote: > On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 08:55:15AM -0700, Rob wrote: > >>1. Is it my imagination or is a 64 bit install going to take twice the >>space of a regular 32 bit one? > > > Not in my experience. Two systems I have here suggest that although the > 64-bit binaries are larger, they are no where near double in size. > > bob@sidious:pg /usr/bin> uname -a > FreeBSD sidious.austin.ibm.com 5.3-BETA5 FreeBSD 5.3-BETA5 #9: Mon Sep 20 13:15:31 CDT 2004 bob@sidious.austin.ibm.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SIDIOUS i386 > bob@sidious:pg /usr/bin> du > 21418 . > > bob@qui-gon:p2 /usr/bin> uname -a > FreeBSD qui-gon.immure.com 5.3-BETA5 FreeBSD 5.3-BETA5 #16: Fri Sep 24 14:31:21 CDT 2004 bob@qui-gon.immure.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/QUI-GON amd64 > bob@qui-gon:p2 /usr/bin> du > 26972 . > > Bob > > >>2. I have seperate SCSI drives, one for XP-64 and one for FreeBSD-64. >>In the past I have used grub to boot between OS's. If #1 is true >> then grub will no longer be on a floppy and will have to become >>bootable CD unless useable in emulation mode. Is there a grub port for 64? > > > Well, I know nothing about grub... :-) > > Bob > Thank you. That info is what I needed for install. I can always tweek the bios to boot into the right drive. Rob. From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 27 18:35:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47DED16A4CF for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 18:35:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freebee.digiware.nl (dsl439.iae.nl [212.61.63.187]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B24C43D2D for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 18:35:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wjw@withagen.nl) Received: from [212.61.27.71] (dual [212.61.27.71]) by freebee.digiware.nl (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8RIZF9S019886; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 20:35:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wjw@withagen.nl) Message-ID: <41585D63.7030405@withagen.nl> Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 20:35:15 +0200 From: Willem Jan Withagen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rob References: <415837E3.8000105@pythonemproject.com> <20040927161356.GB38998@luke.immure.com> <41583F24.40305@pythonemproject.com> In-Reply-To: <41583F24.40305@pythonemproject.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: amd-list Subject: Re: Partioning for a FBSD-64 install X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 18:35:18 -0000 >>> 2. I have seperate SCSI drives, one for XP-64 and one for >>> FreeBSD-64. In the past I have used grub to boot between OS's. If >>> #1 is true then grub will no longer be on a floppy and will have >>> to become bootable CD unless useable in emulation mode. Is there a >>> grub port for 64? >> You do noet need a special GRUB with 64bit. Even stronger, I think, since amd64 "boots" in 32 bit mode, it expects to find 32bit code in the bootsector. It is only after the kernel starts to boot that the processor gets switched into 64bit mode. I installed all the OS'es I wanted including a version of i386, with which I installed GRUB in the bootsector. And the other stages went into /boot/grub on the i386 partition. The config also went into there, and looks like: --------- serial --unit=0 --speed=115200 terminal serial default 1 timeout 30 title FreeBSD/i386 root (hd0,0,a) kernel /boot/loader title FreeBSD/amd64 root (hd0,0,d) kernel /boot/loader title Windows 2000 root (hd0,2) makeactive chainloader +1 ---------- Where I'm using Win2000 further to boot either W2k of XP-amd64 --WjW From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 27 20:53:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7F1316A4CE for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 20:53:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.unsam.edu.ar (smtp.unsam.edu.ar [170.210.48.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 728B143D41 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 20:53:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fernan@iib.unsam.edu.ar) Received: from pi.iib.unsam.edu.ar (pi.iib.unsam.edu.ar [192.168.10.11]) by smtp.unsam.edu.ar (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id i8RL4hOx076584 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 18:04:45 -0300 (ART) (envelope-from fernan@iib.unsam.edu.ar) Received: from pi.iib.unsam.edu.ar (localhost.iib.unsam.edu.ar [127.0.0.1]) by pi.iib.unsam.edu.ar (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i8RKosjQ038042 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 17:50:55 -0300 (ART) (envelope-from fernan@iib.unsam.edu.ar) Received: (from fernan@localhost) by pi.iib.unsam.edu.ar (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8RKorPK038041 for freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 17:50:53 -0300 (ART) (envelope-from fernan@iib.unsam.edu.ar) X-Authentication-Warning: pi.iib.unsam.edu.ar: fernan set sender to fernan@iib.unsam.edu.ar using -f Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 17:50:53 -0300 From: Fernan Aguero To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040927205053.GB37221@iib.unsam.edu.ar> References: <20040924210947.GC6597@iib.unsam.edu.ar> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040924210947.GC6597@iib.unsam.edu.ar> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: freebsd i386 on amd64 hardware? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 20:53:57 -0000 +----[ To freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org (24.Sep.2004 18:09): | | I'm planning to buy a new box, and would like to move to | amd64 hardware. [snipped] | is it possible to run 32-bit FreeBSD (4.x) on amd64 | hardware? Thanks to all who replied! I've got pretty clear answers. | PS: I've been reading the list for recommended | motherboards and chipsets and probably will be sticking to | an MSI with a Via K8T800 chipset. If you have other suggestions | I'll be more than glad to hear them. Thanks! | +----] Right now I'm having trouble finding places to buy MSI motherboards here in Argentina. Right now I have only one option. But it seems like I may be able to buy a Tyan S2850 or a S2875 ... also heard good things about these ones. Thanks again, Fernan -- Fernan Aguero - fernan at iib.unsam.edu.ar Phone: +54 11 4580-7255/7 ext 310, Fax: +54 11 4752-9639 Check http://genoma.unsam.edu.ar/~fernan for more info. From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 28 00:36:05 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E90E16A4CE for ; Tue, 28 Sep 2004 00:36:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from salvador.pacific.net.sg (salvador.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.219]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9D0B843D3F for ; Tue, 28 Sep 2004 00:36:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 25786 invoked from network); 28 Sep 2004 00:36:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maxwell6.pacific.net.sg) (203.120.90.212) by salvador with SMTP; 28 Sep 2004 00:36:01 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.107] ([210.24.202.141]) by maxwell6.pacific.net.sg with ESMTP <20040928003601.CJRH17051.maxwell6.pacific.net.sg@[192.168.0.107]>; Tue, 28 Sep 2004 08:36:01 +0800 Message-ID: <4158B1E2.3030506@pacific.net.sg> Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 08:35:46 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (X11/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fernan Aguero References: <20040924210947.GC6597@iib.unsam.edu.ar> <20040927205053.GB37221@iib.unsam.edu.ar> In-Reply-To: <20040927205053.GB37221@iib.unsam.edu.ar> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd i386 on amd64 hardware? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 00:36:05 -0000 Hi, Fernan Aguero wrote: > > Right now I'm having trouble finding places to buy MSI > motherboards here in Argentina. Right now I have only one option. > But it seems like I may be able to buy a Tyan S2850 or a > S2875 ... also heard good things about these ones. > I do not know those but Tyan is a very good brand. The boards are very reliable. We use them even for web-servers. There is only one problem, which is none if you know it, the BIOS has to be updated very often if the board is new. It even could happen that you will have to update it before you will be able to install any new operating system. Erich From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 28 02:40:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 965BC16A4CE for ; Tue, 28 Sep 2004 02:40:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay03.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (relay03.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.131.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60C4143D55 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 2004 02:40:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sdodson@sdodson.com) Received: from filter01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (filter01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.131.176]) by relay03.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3A37191F27 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 2004 02:40:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay03.roc.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.131.36]) [66.133.131.176]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 22908-14-16 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 2004 02:40:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.42.160] (67-50-87-167.br1.tbr.ga.frontiernet.net [67.50.87.167]) by relay03.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76FDC191C47 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 2004 02:40:42 +0000 (UTC) From: Scott Dodson To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 22:40:37 -0400 Message-Id: <1096339237.5786.1.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.0FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20040701 (2.0) (Debian) at filter01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net Subject: 939 Motherboard Suggestions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 02:40:44 -0000 Anyone have a 939 board that they particularly like? I'm considering waiting a few weeks for the NForce4 stuff to come out, how well do these chipsets seem to be supported? Any preference nvidia vs VIA? thanks for your time, Scott From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 28 13:27:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1792E16A4CE for ; Tue, 28 Sep 2004 13:27:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web14106.mail.yahoo.com (web14106.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.136]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AB85943D5C for ; Tue, 28 Sep 2004 13:27:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cguttesen@yahoo.dk) Message-ID: <20040928132738.46098.qmail@web14106.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [194.248.174.58] by web14106.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 28 Sep 2004 15:27:38 CEST Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 15:27:38 +0200 (CEST) From: Claus Guttesen To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: unable to install beta6 [amd64] on Dell 2850 with 4 GB RAM, workaround X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 13:27:39 -0000 Apoligies for crossposting, but ... Was unable to install the amd64-port on a Dell 2850 with a Perc 4e/Di RAID-controller and dual Nocona at 3.2 GHz. The server has 4 GB RAM. As a last resort I removed 2 GB RAM, and I was (finally) able to install FreeBSD. Applies to at least beta5 and -6. I was under the impression tha the amd64-port could see the 4 GB RAM as a flat memory space, so it never occured to me, than I had to remove 2 GB in order to perform the installation. Putting the RAM back makes the server stop during boot (after it detects the CD-drive). Claus From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 28 13:34:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B79616A4CE for ; Tue, 28 Sep 2004 13:34:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gunfright.epcdirect.co.uk (gunfright.epcdirect.co.uk [195.10.242.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD7E343D55 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 2004 13:34:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-smp@epcdirect.co.uk) Received: from lfarr (l-farr.int.epcdirect.co.uk [192.168.6.200]) by gunfright.epcdirect.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95A3567952; Tue, 28 Sep 2004 14:34:22 +0100 (BST) From: "Lawrence Farr" To: "'Claus Guttesen'" , Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 14:34:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <20040928132738.46098.qmail@web14106.mail.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcSlXvk5BN7Ct26LSEK9nw0jjIbwawAAM6mw Message-Id: <20040928133422.95A3567952@gunfright.epcdirect.co.uk> Subject: RE: unable to install beta6 [amd64] on Dell 2850 with 4 GB RAM,workaround X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 13:34:24 -0000 Does the amd64 port have support for em64t then? > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Claus Guttesen > Sent: 28 September 2004 14:28 > To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org; freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org > Subject: unable to install beta6 [amd64] on Dell 2850 with 4 > GB RAM,workaround > > Apoligies for crossposting, but ... > > Was unable to install the amd64-port on a Dell 2850 > with a Perc 4e/Di RAID-controller and dual Nocona at > 3.2 GHz. The server has 4 GB RAM. As a last resort I > removed 2 GB RAM, and I was (finally) able to install > FreeBSD. > > Applies to at least beta5 and -6. > > I was under the impression tha the amd64-port could > see the 4 GB RAM as a flat memory space, so it never > occured to me, than I had to remove 2 GB in order to > perform the installation. > > Putting the RAM back makes the server stop during boot > (after it detects the CD-drive). > > Claus > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-amd64 > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-amd64-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 28 15:43:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3B7416A4CE for ; Tue, 28 Sep 2004 15:43:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail4.speakeasy.net (mail4.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94AE343D41 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 2004 15:43:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 27192 invoked from network); 28 Sep 2004 15:43:22 -0000 Received: from dsl027-160-063.atl1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender ) encrypted SMTP for ; 28 Sep 2004 15:43:22 -0000 Received: from [10.50.40.210] (gw1.twc.weather.com [216.133.140.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8SFhF2O002165; Tue, 28 Sep 2004 11:43:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 11:33:00 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <20040928133422.95A3567952@gunfright.epcdirect.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20040928133422.95A3567952@gunfright.epcdirect.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200409281133.00699.jhb@FreeBSD.org> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on server.baldwin.cx Subject: Re: unable to install beta6 [amd64] on Dell 2850 with 4 GB RAM,workaround X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 15:43:22 -0000 On Tuesday 28 September 2004 09:34 am, Lawrence Farr wrote: > Does the amd64 port have support for em64t then? Yes. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve" = http://www.FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 28 16:02:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24FBE16A4CE for ; Tue, 28 Sep 2004 16:02:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C851343D1D for ; Tue, 28 Sep 2004 16:02:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rob2@pythonemproject.com) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (c-67-169-203-186.client.comcast.net[67.169.203.186]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with ESMTP id <20040928160225014007t6lee> (Authid: europax); Tue, 28 Sep 2004 16:02:25 +0000 Message-ID: <41598B94.9030703@pythonemproject.com> Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 09:04:36 -0700 From: Rob User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040816 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: amd-list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: my first memorable AMD-64 moment, YMMV X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 16:02:26 -0000 Haven't been able to install FreeBSD yet as my SCSI cable connectors have lots of bent pins. So just for kicks last night I tried to install some 32 bit Windows applications on XP-64. Absolutely none would install. It appears that anything that requires a driver is uninstallable. Someone perhaps has a good expanation for this. I'm going to try Python later. It has always installed on anything. But my recommendation to Bill Gates is this: make your first port to 64 bits Solataire. Rob. From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 28 21:08:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BA2416A4CE for ; Tue, 28 Sep 2004 21:08:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 1002-2.lowesthosting.com (1002-2.lowesthosting.com [207.44.216.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B4AEE43D46 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 2004 21:08:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from schnoopay@mackanics.net) Received: (qmail 10810 invoked from network); 28 Sep 2004 19:47:48 -0000 Received: from 24.229.178.47.res-cmts.mlf.ptd.net (HELO ?192.168.0.1?) (24.229.178.47) by 4me.cc with SMTP; 28 Sep 2004 19:47:48 -0000 Message-ID: <4159BFE3.5030009@mackanics.net> Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 15:47:47 -0400 From: Schnoopay User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040712 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: i386 or AMD64? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 21:08:52 -0000 I'm soon to be getting an Athlon64 and am debating whether to use the i386 or AMD64 versions of FreeBSD. I've been running -CURRENT (well, now RELENF_5) since 5.0 DP1 on my current system and don't mind the occasional issues that come with doing so. I am curious however what will and will not work in the AMD64 port. My main concerns are KDE, Mozilla, oggenc and similar desktop apps. I know most ports I use are known to be working, and I believe that Linux32 compatability is in a testing phase currently, anything else I should know before making the move? Is there a web page somewhere that lists what ports are known working/not working on AMD64? From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 28 21:22:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25A0416A4CE for ; Tue, 28 Sep 2004 21:22:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lyra.enemy.org (lyra.enemy.org [62.116.11.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 10A4B43D3F for ; Tue, 28 Sep 2004 21:22:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from acme@s2.enemy.org) Received: (qmail 906 invoked from network); 28 Sep 2004 21:18:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO s2.enemy.org) (62.116.11.3) by lyra.enemy.org with SMTP; 28 Sep 2004 21:18:54 -0000 Received: from s2.enemy.org (acme@localhost.enemy.org [127.0.0.1]) by s2.enemy.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8SLMb3t009094; Tue, 28 Sep 2004 23:22:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from acme@s2.enemy.org) Received: (from acme@localhost) by s2.enemy.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8SLMaLW009093; Tue, 28 Sep 2004 23:22:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from acme) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 23:22:36 +0200 From: "Alex D'Elia" To: Dave Feustel , freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040928212236.GA2603@enemy.org> References: <20040926093723.GA86919@enemy.org> <200409260836.49821.dfeustel@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="3MwIy2ne0vdjdPXF" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200409260836.49821.dfeustel@mindspring.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.9-STABLE Organization: Olocolors.org X-GPG-Id: E7A6E8B5 [expires: 2005-03-03] X-GPG-Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu X-GPG-Fingerprint: 5C5A 4866 9B71 D200 FDCC 8878 0B63 A477 E7A6 E8B5 Subject: Re: can't install ! X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 21:22:39 -0000 --3MwIy2ne0vdjdPXF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * Dave Feustel [040926 15:36]: > On Sunday 26 September 2004 04:37 am, Alex D'Elia wrote: > > Now, i tried to install 5.2.1, and the beta versions of 5.3 > > but had no success, it always stops at the moment of creating > > the filesystems. >=20 > Try installing Openbsd 3.6 (either the 32-bit 386 version or the 64-bit a= md version) from=20 > http://www.openbsd.org. > If neither works, then the odds go up that you have a hardware problem. > If one or the other version of openbsd works, then you could have a hardw= are or software=20 > problem (or both). If both openbsd versions work, then you probably have= a software=20 > problem with the Freebsd you are loading. > --=20 >=20 > Dave Feustel 1-260-422-5330 > http://www.mindspring.com/~dfeustel >=20 Hi !! everyone, i still could not try to test with OpenBSD-3.5 but in the meanwhile i used FreeBSD-amd64BETA6 with still the same error: ad0: FAILURE READ_DMA status=3D51 ..... error=3D40 LBA=3D64 =2E... ad0: TIMEOUT READ_DMA retrying ( 2 retries left ) LBA=3D320172993 ATAPI_RESET time=3D3170us when it boots the kernel from acd0. when then i do all the procedure to install the system through sysinstall i get as error: Unable to find device node for /dev/ad0s1b in /dev! =2E.. I also changed the cable, and i know HD was working because I used it before with another system, still is pretty new ! So, now my intention is to try to use another HD, probably a SATA device But i could not find reference to my controllers in the HARDWARE.HTM of the release notes. these are: atapci0: < PROMISE PDC20378 SATA150 controller > ata2: on atapci0 ata3: on atapci0 ata4: on atapci0 atapci1: < VIA 6420 SATA150 controller > ata5: on atapci1 ata6: on atapci1 atapci2: < VIA 8237 UDMA133 controller > ata0: on atapci2 ata1: on atapci2 so i though of installing a SATA HD instead when i would find the above controllers to be supported. any hints ? :) thanks a G, alex --=20 ** acme aka Alex D'Elia --> root.acme.com ** mail:: acme@enemy.org ** --3MwIy2ne0vdjdPXF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBWdYaC2Okd+em6LURAqPiAJ9zLvVvxLxBw72gUWFj9EaSHvWK3gCfb5nA 8IMWRxqoUE4ckjtqlYaQARc= =9hIl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --3MwIy2ne0vdjdPXF-- From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 28 21:24:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECDE016A4CE for ; Tue, 28 Sep 2004 21:24:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (cpc2-cdif3-6-0-cust204.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.103.67.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EADD43D49 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 2004 21:24:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.42 (FreeBSD)) id 1CCPSE-0009yx-Kf; Tue, 28 Sep 2004 22:24:10 +0100 Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 22:24:10 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: Schnoopay Message-ID: <20040928212410.GX2493@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Schnoopay , freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org References: <4159BFE3.5030009@mackanics.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="IGm81t4p5ot0iv02" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4159BFE3.5030009@mackanics.net> X-PGP: finger ceri@FreeBSD.org User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Sender: Ceri Davies cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: i386 or AMD64? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 21:24:12 -0000 --IGm81t4p5ot0iv02 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Sep 28, 2004 at 03:47:47PM -0400, Schnoopay wrote: > I'm soon to be getting an Athlon64 and am debating whether to use the=20 > i386 or AMD64 versions of FreeBSD. I've been running -CURRENT (well, now= =20 > RELENF_5) since 5.0 DP1 on my current system and don't mind the=20 > occasional issues that come with doing so. I am curious however what=20 > will and will not work in the AMD64 port. My main concerns are KDE,=20 > Mozilla, oggenc and similar desktop apps. I know most ports I use are=20 > known to be working, and I believe that Linux32 compatability is in a=20 > testing phase currently, anything else I should know before making the=20 > move? Is there a web page somewhere that lists what ports are known=20 > working/not working on AMD64? None of the JVMs or Scheme ports work on amd64, which is a shame. Other than that, everything I use is fine (KDE is definitely fine). Ceri --=20 It is not tinfoil, it is my new skin. I am a robot. --IGm81t4p5ot0iv02 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBWdZ6ocfcwTS3JF8RAtZJAKCENIEmAx2lB0aukvW85PZndVa2pACfYueA 2raRqKXtUUpYYx7wynL1Zc8= =mdmj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --IGm81t4p5ot0iv02-- From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 28 21:25:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94FF616A4CE for ; Tue, 28 Sep 2004 21:25:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.mcneil.com (mcneil.com [24.199.45.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60C9043D31 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 2004 21:25:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sean@mcneil.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.mcneil.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail.mcneil.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 065BCF1ABE; Tue, 28 Sep 2004 14:25:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.mcneil.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (server.mcneil.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01836-03; Tue, 28 Sep 2004 14:25:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [24.199.45.54] (mcneil.com [24.199.45.54]) by mail.mcneil.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28C60F19BC; Tue, 28 Sep 2004 14:25:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Sean McNeil To: Schnoopay In-Reply-To: <4159BFE3.5030009@mackanics.net> References: <4159BFE3.5030009@mackanics.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-H4L4Ine79SXGiM/3Nb4V" Message-Id: <1096406731.1852.5.camel@server.mcneil.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 14:25:32 -0700 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at mcneil.com cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: i386 or AMD64? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 21:25:35 -0000 --=-H4L4Ine79SXGiM/3Nb4V Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2004-09-28 at 12:47, Schnoopay wrote: > I'm soon to be getting an Athlon64 and am debating whether to use the=20 > i386 or AMD64 versions of FreeBSD. I've been running -CURRENT (well, now=20 > RELENF_5) since 5.0 DP1 on my current system and don't mind the=20 > occasional issues that come with doing so. I am curious however what=20 > will and will not work in the AMD64 port. My main concerns are KDE,=20 > Mozilla, oggenc and similar desktop apps. I know most ports I use are=20 > known to be working, and I believe that Linux32 compatability is in a=20 > testing phase currently, anything else I should know before making the=20 > move? Is there a web page somewhere that lists what ports are known=20 > working/not working on AMD64? My main system is an amd64 running -current. Everything works great: gnome, kde, ogg encode/decode, etc. Linux32 compatibility is working as well. I can even run java apps with Linux32. The only thing lacking for me is native java so I can have java support in the browser and get eclipse going. I've been playing with gcc/gcj attempting to get that going, but so far no joy. There might be a few additional ports that will not work under amd64, but I personally use everything native amd64 (except java). Cheers, Sean --=-H4L4Ine79SXGiM/3Nb4V Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBWdbLyQsGN30uGE4RArrXAKDocKCfLqPb6+q70yMHOu6MQz/kWgCg4fcn kPwaane5pSXfDwDqP8bHV6k= =faxd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-H4L4Ine79SXGiM/3Nb4V-- From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 28 23:30:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AF9516A4CF; Tue, 28 Sep 2004 23:30:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from www.heimat.gr.jp (catv-118-241.tees.ne.jp [203.141.118.241]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F81A43D39; Tue, 28 Sep 2004 23:30:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nakaji@tutrp.tut.ac.jp) Received: from xa12.heimat.gr.jp (xa12.heimat.gr.jp [202.216.136.35]) by www.heimat.gr.jp (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8SNUBdk044674; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 08:30:15 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from nakaji@tutrp.tut.ac.jp) Sender: nakaji@tutrp.tut.ac.jp To: kimoto@ohnolab.org From: NAKAJI Hiroyuki References: <20040503.212608.33940060.kimoto@ohnolab.org> <20040503162309.GB28385@dragon.nuxi.com> <20040504.084924.130335946.kimoto@ohnolab.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 08:30:11 +0900 Message-ID: <86655y0y64.fsf@xa12.heimat.gr.jp> User-Agent: T-gnus/6.17.3 (based on No Gnus v0.3) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.6 (Marutamachi) APEL/10.6 Emacs/21.3 (i386--freebsd) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS-perl11-milter (http://amavis.org/) cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org cc: obrien@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: How to use nForce3 internal NIC on FreeBSD 5-CURRENT-AMD64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 23:30:21 -0000 Hi, I just have found your posts from an archive of freebsd-amd64. And I want to try your new drivers. I bought exciting Dual Opteron box with o Rioworks HDAMD o Adaptec 29320A-R o Seagate's U320 73GB drives (I do not remember the exact name) o and so on (Yes, I should have read amd64 archive before I choose the parts...) And, as you can imagine easily, got into trouble with 5.3-BETA5. The problem is, 1. With ACPI, 29320A-R is detected but the drives are not. System hangs up while booting. 2. Without ACPI, no system hangup but no SCSI and no drives. 3. Without ACPI and with a SATA drive, installation was successfull but no on-board NIC is available. 4. Without ACPI, with a SATA drive and with rtk(4) card, the box works good, but no U320 drives and no on-board NIC are available. :( 5. Fedora Core 2 is easily be installed and works fine. :p Which is better to test Kimoto-san's way or David's nve(4)? Are they different? Thanks in advance. -- NAKAJI Hiroyuki From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 28 23:49:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 492E716A4CF for ; Tue, 28 Sep 2004 23:49:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from daintree.corp.yahoo.com (daintree.corp.yahoo.com [216.145.52.172]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 340EA43D2D for ; Tue, 28 Sep 2004 23:49:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@yahoo-inc.com) Received: by daintree.corp.yahoo.com (Postfix, from userid 2154) id 23CC38803; Tue, 28 Sep 2004 16:49:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Peter Wemm To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 16:49:43 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <20040928133422.95A3567952@gunfright.epcdirect.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20040928133422.95A3567952@gunfright.epcdirect.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200409281649.43801.peter@wemm.org> Subject: Re: unable to install beta6 [amd64] on Dell 2850 with 4 GB RAM,workaround X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 23:49:44 -0000 On Tuesday 28 September 2004 06:34 am, Lawrence Farr wrote: > Does the amd64 port have support for em64t then? It is the same thing. FreeBSD never used the undocumented AMD-specific IOMMU, nor 3dnow etc. We don't do anything that assumes an integrated memory controller, nor hypertransport, etc. Aside from one silly bug, even FreeBSD-5.2 will run on intel cpus. And 5.2.1 will run on later intel cpus even without our bug being fixed. There isn't anything to "support". Since AMD wouldn't tell me any of the information about the things unique to the AMD cpus, we don't use any of them. That's why we essentially run out of the box on the intel cpus. Regarding the 4G of ram thing below.. Several people have tinkered with the auto-tuning of kernel resources based on physical ram. On our kernel, we have a finite limit of kernel private VM and simple scaling based on physical ram will quickly fill it up. I'm still not sure that its good enough. I'm just kicking myself that I didn't get to try this on a machine with 32G of ram that I dont have access to anymore. > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Claus > > Guttesen Sent: 28 September 2004 14:28 > > To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org; freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org > > Subject: unable to install beta6 [amd64] on Dell 2850 with 4 > > GB RAM,workaround > > > > Apoligies for crossposting, but ... > > > > Was unable to install the amd64-port on a Dell 2850 > > with a Perc 4e/Di RAID-controller and dual Nocona at > > 3.2 GHz. The server has 4 GB RAM. As a last resort I > > removed 2 GB RAM, and I was (finally) able to install > > FreeBSD. > > > > Applies to at least beta5 and -6. > > > > I was under the impression tha the amd64-port could > > see the 4 GB RAM as a flat memory space, so it never > > occured to me, than I had to remove 2 GB in order to > > perform the installation. > > > > Putting the RAM back makes the server stop during boot > > (after it detects the CD-drive). > > > > Claus > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-amd64 > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-amd64-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-amd64 > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-amd64-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 28 23:52:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6519016A4CE; Tue, 28 Sep 2004 23:52:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from daintree.corp.yahoo.com (daintree.corp.yahoo.com [216.145.52.172]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5844043D39; Tue, 28 Sep 2004 23:52:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@yahoo-inc.com) Received: by daintree.corp.yahoo.com (Postfix, from userid 2154) id 4ADE48803; Tue, 28 Sep 2004 16:52:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Peter Wemm To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 16:52:07 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <41577F37.8010204@safeasmilk.net> <20040927041530.GA3853@dragon.nuxi.com> In-Reply-To: <20040927041530.GA3853@dragon.nuxi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200409281652.07971.peter@wemm.org> Subject: Re: G400 and mga_hal X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 23:52:08 -0000 On Sunday 26 September 2004 09:15 pm, David O'Brien wrote: > On Sun, Sep 26, 2004 at 10:47:19PM -0400, Owen Becker wrote: > > My current project is to get my G400 working with two monitors. I'm > > using 5.3 Beta 6 amd64 with the options "agp" and "mgadrm" compiled > > into the kernel. > > When I start X (latest x.org from ports) it gripes about missing > > mga_hal. Is the mga_hal driver supported with FreeBSD amd64? Thanks > > in advance. > > I get the same on my 32-bit x86 machine using a G550. I don't know > that FreeBSD has ever had a mga_hal driver. Have we? mga_hal was OS independent and well behaved. You just use the linux i386 one on a native freebsd i386 xserver. Naturally, this isn't workable for a 64 bit xserver. -- Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 28 23:57:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94D1616A4CE for ; Tue, 28 Sep 2004 23:57:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from daintree.corp.yahoo.com (daintree.corp.yahoo.com [216.145.52.172]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8515543D1F for ; Tue, 28 Sep 2004 23:57:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@yahoo-inc.com) Received: by daintree.corp.yahoo.com (Postfix, from userid 2154) id 77D278803; Tue, 28 Sep 2004 16:57:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Peter Wemm To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 16:57:16 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <20040924210947.GC6597@iib.unsam.edu.ar> <4157637F.9090009@error404.nls.net> <41577570.6020000@npgcable.com> In-Reply-To: <41577570.6020000@npgcable.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200409281657.16143.peter@wemm.org> Subject: Re: freebsd i386 on amd64 hardware? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 23:57:16 -0000 On Sunday 26 September 2004 07:05 pm, Joseph Fenton wrote: > Ketrien I. Saihr-Kesenchedra wrote: > > Bearing in mind that I don't work for AMD, my understanding is that > > AMD has always planned on three sockets for the Athlon64 - 754 > > (single channel), originally because it can be put on a 5-layer > > PCB. Socket 940 for Opterons for dual channel, but requiring a > > 6-layer PCB. And Socket 939 because that one less pin allows for > > 5-layer PCBs and dual channel. > > The 754 socket (one HT port and single-channel mem) was destined for > laptops. The 940 (three HT ports and dual-channel mem) needs the > extra layers for proper operation. The 939 keeps the dual-channel, > but replaces two of the HT ports with extra power and ground pins. > All the extra power and ground pins means less current surge and > therefore needs fewer layers. Making it one pin less keeps you from > accidentally sticking it in the wrong socket. My understanding was that the 939 socket had *all* of its pins reassigned to make it much easier to do a 4-layer board. I really should go look at the pinout specs some day. Not that it really matters though.. the pinout is different and that is what counts. The folks who make motherboards by the million care about the cost difference between 6 and 4 layer boards. -- Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 29 03:31:17 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8844016A4CE for ; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 03:31:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 1002-2.lowesthosting.com (1002-2.lowesthosting.com [207.44.216.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 332C343D2D for ; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 03:31:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from schnoopay@mackanics.net) Received: (qmail 32141 invoked from network); 29 Sep 2004 03:25:38 -0000 Received: from 24.229.178.47.res-cmts.mlf.ptd.net (HELO ?192.168.0.1?) (24.229.178.47) by 4me.cc with SMTP; 29 Sep 2004 03:25:38 -0000 Message-ID: <415A2B31.9020701@mackanics.net> Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 23:25:37 -0400 From: Schnoopay User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040712 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org References: <4159BFE3.5030009@mackanics.net> <1096406731.1852.5.camel@server.mcneil.com> In-Reply-To: <1096406731.1852.5.camel@server.mcneil.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: i386 or AMD64? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 03:31:17 -0000 Excellent news from both of you Ceri and Sean. It's a shame about the JVMs not working, but nothing I run is dependant upon it so I should be in good shape. It's good to hear that the AMD64 port has gone so well. I don't usually keep up on anything but the i386 stuff, but I guess that'll change once my new hardware gets here. =] Just want to say good job to everyone who has been working to get AMD64 where it is. Tier-1! Way to go! From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 29 04:16:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6224516A4CE for ; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 04:16:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from koganei-server.ohnolab.org (koganei-server.ohnolab.org [202.249.37.99]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BE6A643D48 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 04:16:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kimoto@ohnolab.org) Received: (qmail 5637 invoked from network); 29 Sep 2004 04:15:58 -0000 Received: from localhost (kimoto@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 29 Sep 2004 04:15:58 -0000 Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 13:15:33 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20040929.131533.74756298.kimoto@ohnolab.org> To: nakaji@jp.freebsd.org From: Masahiko KIMOTO In-Reply-To: <86655y0y64.fsf@xa12.heimat.gr.jp> References: <20040503162309.GB28385@dragon.nuxi.com> <20040504.084924.130335946.kimoto@ohnolab.org> <86655y0y64.fsf@xa12.heimat.gr.jp> X-fingerprint: DA 63 E3 AD 3F 30 98 05 EB CF 3C 06 2D FF 07 7F X-PGP-Public-Key: http://www.ohnolab.org/~kimoto/kimoto.pubkey.asc X-URL: http://www.ohnolab.org/~kimoto/ X-Mailer: Mew version 4.0.69 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org cc: obrien@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: How to use nForce3 internal NIC on FreeBSD 5-CURRENT-AMD64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 04:16:03 -0000 > Which is better to test Kimoto-san's way or David's nve(4)? Are they > different? My way is using nVIDIA's driver and David's driver is native one (scratched by himself, right?). Sorry, but the kernel can't be compiled on -CURRENT with my patch because of change of definitions of serveral variables (in June?). I wish to clarify this point, modify my patch and release updated instruction memo, however I have no enough time in these days. sigh... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Masahiko KIMOTO, Ph.D. - http://www.ohnolab.org/~kimoto SOUM Corporation. WIDE Project. From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 29 04:51:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13CDA16A4CE; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 04:51:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from blade100.tutrp.tut.ac.jp (blade100.tutrp.tut.ac.jp [133.15.67.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33E9843D2D; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 04:51:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nakaji@tutrp.tut.ac.jp) Received: from roddy.acest.tutrp.tut.ac.jp (roddy.acest.tutrp.tut.ac.jp [133.15.67.28])i8T4pBZV029146; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 13:51:12 +0900 (JST) Sender: nakaji@tutrp.tut.ac.jp To: Masahiko KIMOTO References: <20040503162309.GB28385@dragon.nuxi.com> <20040504.084924.130335946.kimoto@ohnolab.org> <86655y0y64.fsf@xa12.heimat.gr.jp> <20040929.131533.74756298.kimoto@ohnolab.org> From: NAKAJI Hiroyuki MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 13:51:11 +0900 In-Reply-To: <20040929.131533.74756298.kimoto@ohnolab.org> (Masahiko KIMOTO's message of "Wed, 29 Sep 2004 13:15:33 +0900 (JST)") Message-ID: <87oejp7k5c.fsf@roddy.acest.tutrp.tut.ac.jp> User-Agent: T-gnus/6.17.3 (based on No Gnus v0.3) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.6 (Marutamachi) APEL/10.6 Emacs/21.3 (i386--freebsd) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) cc: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org cc: obrien@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: How to use nForce3 internal NIC on FreeBSD 5-CURRENT-AMD64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 04:51:28 -0000 >>>>> In <20040929.131533.74756298.kimoto@ohnolab.org> >>>>> Masahiko KIMOTO wrote: > > Which is better to test Kimoto-san's way or David's nve(4)? Are they > > different? > My way is using nVIDIA's driver and David's driver is native one > (scratched by himself, right?). I see. David, I want to try your nve(4). How can I get it? -- NAKAJI Hiroyuki From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 29 07:11:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A26FF16A4CF for ; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 07:11:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web12824.mail.yahoo.com (web12824.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6359443D2F for ; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 07:11:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from neshort@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20040929071139.19375.qmail@web12824.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.240.243.170] by web12824.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 00:11:39 PDT Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 00:11:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Neil Short To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: FreeBSD won't install or boot on HP NX9110 notebook X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 07:11:39 -0000 This issue has been covered heavily over in the AMD64 list. The issue has been on the burner for several months. It is moving down the priority list. I guess it doesn't affect enough users. Plus, the known fix requires modifying code that has been a part of the system for a long time; so commiters aren't motivated to change it. There is actually a fix for it but it is really difficult to pull off because you have to make your own bootable media. It is uniqe to the nVidia3/AMD (64 and -M) chipset on laptop computers. Here is the note that provides the patch: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-amd64/2004-July/001664.html You have to go to a different computer and build your own set of installable CDs; then install on your computer but before rebooting, open the rescue shell and copy the built kernel to the hard drive to replace the generic one that is automatically in the root partition. -N ===== It is the soldier, not the agitator, who has given us the freedom to protest. --Zell Miller, speech at the GOP convention. 20040901 If history always begins this morning, the world holds exciting surprises around every corner (241). --Ann Coulter. Treason. Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable. --John F Kennedy __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 29 09:02:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3EDB16A4CE for ; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 09:02:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from will.iki.fi (will.iki.fi [217.169.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79B7043D45 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 09:02:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from will+freebsd-amd64@will.iki.fi) Received: from [10.0.20.56] (fa-3-0-0.fw.exomi.com [217.169.64.99]) by will.iki.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CF7A15; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:02:25 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <415A7A07.50801@will.iki.fi> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:01:59 +0300 From: Ville-Pertti Keinonen User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (X11/20040828) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ceri Davies References: <4159BFE3.5030009@mackanics.net> <20040928212410.GX2493@submonkey.net> In-Reply-To: <20040928212410.GX2493@submonkey.net> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------090501040608070809090907" cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: i386 or AMD64? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 09:02:27 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090501040608070809090907 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ceri Davies wrote: >None of the JVMs or Scheme ports work on amd64, which is a shame. Other >than that, everything I use is fine (KDE is definitely fine). > > Of the Scheme ports, guile works, and if you want a more extensive Scheme environment, PLT Scheme is fairly easy to fix. Attached is a patch (against version 208) that should get it to work if you're willing to build manually. It fails to build some extensions, though, there's still an -fPIC missing somewhere, but you still end up with a perfectly usable environment. --------------090501040608070809090907 Content-Type: text/plain; name="plt.diff" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="plt.diff" diff -ur orig/plt/src/mzscheme/gc/include/private/gcconfig.h plt/src/mzscheme/gc/include/private/gcconfig.h --- orig/plt/src/mzscheme/gc/include/private/gcconfig.h Thu Jul 22 11:21:22 2004 +++ plt/src/mzscheme/gc/include/private/gcconfig.h Tue Aug 17 13:46:49 2004 @@ -307,6 +307,10 @@ # define I386 # define mach_type_known # endif +# if defined(FREEBSD) && (defined(amd64) || defined(__amd64__)) +# define X86_64 +# define mach_type_known +# endif # if defined(__NetBSD__) && (defined(i386) || defined(__i386__)) # define I386 # define mach_type_known @@ -1873,6 +1877,13 @@ # define HEURISTIC2 extern char etext[]; # define SEARCH_FOR_DATA_START +# endif +# ifdef FREEBSD +# define OS_TYPE "FREEBSD" +# define DYNAMIC_LOADING +# define HEURISTIC2 + extern char etext[]; +# define SEARCH_FOR_DATA_START # endif # endif diff -ur orig/plt/src/mzscheme/sconfig.h plt/src/mzscheme/sconfig.h --- orig/plt/src/mzscheme/sconfig.h Thu Jul 22 11:21:19 2004 +++ plt/src/mzscheme/sconfig.h Tue Aug 17 13:54:03 2004 @@ -323,6 +323,37 @@ #endif +#if defined(__FreeBSD__) && (defined(amd64) || defined(__amd64__)) + +# define SCHEME_PLATFORM_LIBRARY_SUBPATH "amd64-freebsd" + +# define SIXTY_FOUR_BIT_INTEGERS + +# include "uconfig.h" +# undef HAS_STANDARD_IOB + +# define HAS_BSD_IOB + +# define STACK_GROWS_DOWN + +# define USE_UNDERSCORE_SETJMP + +# define USE_IEEE_FP_PREDS +# undef FREEBSD_CONTROL_387 +# define POW_HANDLES_INF_CORRECTLY + +# define USE_DYNAMIC_FDSET_SIZE + +# define SIGSET_IS_SIGNAL + +# define USE_TM_GMTOFF_FIELD + +# undef REGISTER_POOR_MACHINE + +# define FLAGS_ALREADY_SET + +#endif + /************** SGI/IRIX with SGI cc ****************/ #if (defined(mips) || defined(__mips)) \ --------------090501040608070809090907-- From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 29 09:43:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C386316A4CF for ; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 09:43:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [83.120.8.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 103E343D46 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 09:43:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (pknwlu@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8T9hFh1011907 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 11:43:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8T9hFUV011906; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 11:43:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 11:43:15 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200409290943.i8T9hFUV011906@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <1096406731.1852.5.camel@server.mcneil.com> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-amd64 User-Agent: tin/1.5.4-20000523 ("1959") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.10-RELEASE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: i386 or AMD64? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 09:43:18 -0000 Sean McNeil wrote: > My main system is an amd64 running -current. Everything works great: > gnome, kde, ogg encode/decode, etc. Linux32 compatibility is working as > well. I can even run java apps with Linux32. The only thing lacking > for me is native java so I can have java support in the browser and get > eclipse going. Can't you just use the Linux binary of the browser and then use the Linux java support? That's what I do on i386, so I can use all the Linux plugins etc. (I don't have an amd64 machine, so I can't say for sure, but it _should_ work there as well.) (Personally I'm using Opera for which a FreeBSD/i386 binary exists, but the Linux binary has been proven to be more stable in my environment anyway.) Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co KG, Oettingenstr. 2, 80538 München Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. "File names are infinite in length, where infinity is set to 255 characters." -- Peter Collinson, "The Unix File System" From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 29 11:26:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F209016A4CE for ; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 11:26:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out011.verizon.net (out011pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B69C43D1F for ; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 11:26:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dfeustel@mindspring.com) Received: from atlnga1-ar3-4-33-228-225.atlnga1.dsl-verizon.net ([4.33.228.225]) by out011.verizon.netESMTP <20040929112642.YHBC14580.out011.verizon.net@atlnga1-ar3-4-33-228-225.atlnga1.dsl-verizon.net>; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 06:26:42 -0500 From: Dave Feustel To: "Alex D'Elia" , freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 06:23:31 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.3 References: <20040926093723.GA86919@enemy.org> <200409260836.49821.dfeustel@mindspring.com> <20040928212236.GA2603@enemy.org> In-Reply-To: <20040928212236.GA2603@enemy.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200409290623.31153.dfeustel@mindspring.com> X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out011.verizon.net from [4.33.228.225] at Wed, 29 Sep 2004 06:26:42 -0500 Subject: Re: can't install ! X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: dfeustel@mindspring.com List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 11:26:44 -0000 On Tuesday 28 September 2004 04:22 pm, Alex D'Elia wrote: > any hints ? :) Can you try replacing the Promise controller with a controller made by a different manufacturer? -- Dave Feustel 1-260-422-5330 http://www.mindspring.com/~dfeustel From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 29 17:35:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 580C316A4CE for ; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 17:35:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.mcneil.com (mcneil.com [24.199.45.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BBF943D49 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 17:35:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sean@mcneil.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.mcneil.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail.mcneil.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE902F1AB6 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 10:35:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.mcneil.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (server.mcneil.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21822-04 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 10:35:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [24.199.45.54] (mcneil.com [24.199.45.54]) by mail.mcneil.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB6AFF1936 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 10:35:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Sean McNeil To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <200409290943.i8T9hFUV011906@lurza.secnetix.de> References: <200409290943.i8T9hFUV011906@lurza.secnetix.de> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-xOK4UZAaqMj7KoUykhAq" Message-Id: <1096479331.21908.4.camel@server.mcneil.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 10:35:31 -0700 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at mcneil.com Subject: Re: i386 or AMD64? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 17:35:33 -0000 --=-xOK4UZAaqMj7KoUykhAq Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 02:43, Oliver Fromme wrote: > Sean McNeil wrote: > > My main system is an amd64 running -current. Everything works great: > > gnome, kde, ogg encode/decode, etc. Linux32 compatibility is working = as > > well. I can even run java apps with Linux32. The only thing lacking > > for me is native java so I can have java support in the browser and ge= t > > eclipse going. >=20 > Can't you just use the Linux binary of the browser and then > use the Linux java support? That's what I do on i386, so I > can use all the Linux plugins etc. (I don't have an amd64 > machine, so I can't say for sure, but it _should_ work > there as well.) Yes, I could do that. If the linux pluginwrapper worked for amd64 that would be another option. My desire is to run everything native, though. To that end I would like to get a native java VM. > (Personally I'm using Opera for which a FreeBSD/i386 binary > exists, but the Linux binary has been proven to be more > stable in my environment anyway.) >=20 > Best regards > Oliver --=-xOK4UZAaqMj7KoUykhAq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBWvJjyQsGN30uGE4RAqsPAKCkMQER7j8kfZDJIodRsswywZ/H/ACgyzmV OCzybT6sv3KYSCIp6ZsIp5M= =i9+j -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-xOK4UZAaqMj7KoUykhAq-- From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 29 18:31:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B79B16A4CE for ; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 18:31:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E307143D49 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 18:31:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rob2@pythonemproject.com) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (c-67-169-203-186.client.comcast.net[67.169.203.186]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with ESMTP id <200409291831010160014o6te> (Authid: europax); Wed, 29 Sep 2004 18:31:01 +0000 Message-ID: <415AFFE8.5050404@pythonemproject.com> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 11:33:12 -0700 From: Rob User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040816 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: amd-list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: XFree86 libraries missing? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 18:31:02 -0000 I did a binary install last nite from a 5.3 beta AMD-64 iso. However, any package that depended on X11 libraries wouldn't install, as it seemed the libraries were missing from the CD. Is X11 OK on AMD-64? Posts here seem to indicate that it works fine, but maybe they are running under i386 emulation. Thank you, Rob. From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 29 18:42:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B62E416A4CE for ; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 18:42:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (cpc2-cdif3-6-0-cust204.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.103.67.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 534B943D46 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 18:42:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.42 (FreeBSD)) id 1CCjPP-000Img-H6; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 19:42:35 +0100 Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 19:42:35 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: Ville-Pertti Keinonen Message-ID: <20040929184235.GC2493@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Ville-Pertti Keinonen , freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org References: <4159BFE3.5030009@mackanics.net> <20040928212410.GX2493@submonkey.net> <415A7A07.50801@will.iki.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="TSoBXhsGT8MFtrg5" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <415A7A07.50801@will.iki.fi> X-PGP: finger ceri@FreeBSD.org User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Sender: Ceri Davies cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: i386 or AMD64? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 18:42:36 -0000 --TSoBXhsGT8MFtrg5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 12:01:59PM +0300, Ville-Pertti Keinonen wrote: > Ceri Davies wrote: >=20 > >None of the JVMs or Scheme ports work on amd64, which is a shame. Other > >than that, everything I use is fine (KDE is definitely fine). > >=20 > > > Of the Scheme ports, guile works, and if you want a more extensive=20 > Scheme environment, PLT Scheme is fairly easy to fix. Attached is a=20 > patch (against version 208) that should get it to work if you're willing= =20 > to build manually. It fails to build some extensions, though, there's=20 > still an -fPIC missing somewhere, but you still end up with a perfectly= =20 > usable environment. This is really useful - thank you! Ceri --=20 It is not tinfoil, it is my new skin. I am a robot. --TSoBXhsGT8MFtrg5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBWwIbocfcwTS3JF8RAib+AJ4hAgzeaefNOP1cyoybj4EjrzqzQwCcDbdu k0dW1LYRADHmYGnPEHl05iA= =elIa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --TSoBXhsGT8MFtrg5-- From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 29 20:45:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BC3016A4CE; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 20:45:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smarthost2.sentex.ca (smarthost2.sentex.ca [205.211.164.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9131643D54; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 20:45:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp1.sentex.ca (smtp1.sentex.ca [199.212.134.4]) by smarthost2.sentex.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i8TKjbfu093725; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 16:45:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: from freebsd-current.sentex.ca (freebsd-current.sentex.ca [64.7.128.98]) by smtp1.sentex.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i8TKjaTo058129; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 16:45:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: by freebsd-current.sentex.ca (Postfix, from userid 666) id E80D97303F; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 16:45:36 -0400 (EDT) Sender: FreeBSD Tinderbox From: FreeBSD Tinderbox To: FreeBSD Tinderbox , , Precedence: bulk Message-Id: <20040929204536.E80D97303F@freebsd-current.sentex.ca> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 16:45:36 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [current tinderbox] failure on amd64/amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 20:45:41 -0000 TB --- 2004-09-29 19:28:04 - tinderbox 2.3 running on freebsd-current.sentex.ca TB --- 2004-09-29 19:28:04 - starting CURRENT tinderbox run for amd64/amd64 TB --- 2004-09-29 19:28:04 - checking out the source tree TB --- 2004-09-29 19:28:04 - cd /home/tinderbox/CURRENT/amd64/amd64 TB --- 2004-09-29 19:28:04 - /usr/bin/cvs -f -R -q -d/home/ncvs update -Pd -A src TB --- 2004-09-29 19:34:09 - building world (CFLAGS=-O2 -pipe) TB --- 2004-09-29 19:34:09 - cd /home/tinderbox/CURRENT/amd64/amd64/src TB --- 2004-09-29 19:34:09 - /usr/bin/make -B buildworld >>> Rebuilding the temporary build tree >>> stage 1.1: legacy release compatibility shims >>> stage 1.2: bootstrap tools >>> stage 2.1: cleaning up the object tree >>> stage 2.2: rebuilding the object tree >>> stage 2.3: build tools >>> stage 3: cross tools >>> stage 4.1: building includes >>> stage 4.2: building libraries >>> stage 4.3: make dependencies >>> stage 4.4: building everything TB --- 2004-09-29 20:40:22 - building generic kernel (COPTFLAGS=-O2 -pipe) TB --- 2004-09-29 20:40:22 - cd /home/tinderbox/CURRENT/amd64/amd64/src TB --- 2004-09-29 20:40:22 - /usr/bin/make buildkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC >>> Kernel build for GENERIC started on Wed Sep 29 20:40:23 UTC 2004 >>> stage 1: configuring the kernel >>> stage 2.1: cleaning up the object tree >>> stage 2.2: rebuilding the object tree >>> stage 2.3: build tools >>> stage 3.1: making dependencies >>> stage 3.2: building everything [...] /tinderbox/CURRENT/amd64/amd64/src/sys/dev/usb/usb_subr.c:832: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `pipe' /tinderbox/CURRENT/amd64/amd64/src/sys/dev/usb/usb_subr.c:832: error: `p' undeclared here (not in a function) /tinderbox/CURRENT/amd64/amd64/src/sys/dev/usb/usb_subr.c:832: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /tinderbox/CURRENT/amd64/amd64/src/sys/dev/usb/usb_subr.c:833: error: syntax error before "return" /tinderbox/CURRENT/amd64/amd64/src/sys/dev/usb/usb_subr.c:92: warning: 'usbd_getnewaddr' declared `static' but never defined /tinderbox/CURRENT/amd64/amd64/src/sys/dev/usb/usb_subr.c:101: warning: 'usbd_kill_pipe' declared `static' but never defined /tinderbox/CURRENT/amd64/amd64/src/sys/dev/usb/usb_subr.c:103: warning: 'usbd_probe_and_attach' declared `static' but never defined /tinderbox/CURRENT/amd64/amd64/src/sys/dev/usb/usb_subr.c:105: warning: 'usb_cookie_no' defined but not used *** Error code 1 Stop in /tinderbox/CURRENT/amd64/amd64/obj/amd64/tinderbox/CURRENT/amd64/amd64/src/sys/GENERIC. *** Error code 1 Stop in /tinderbox/CURRENT/amd64/amd64/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /tinderbox/CURRENT/amd64/amd64/src. TB --- 2004-09-29 20:45:36 - WARNING: /usr/bin/make returned exit code 1 TB --- 2004-09-29 20:45:36 - ERROR: failed to build generic kernel TB --- 2004-09-29 20:45:36 - tinderbox aborted From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 29 20:49:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9114A16A4DD for ; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 20:49:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mxfep02.bredband.com (mxfep02.bredband.com [195.54.107.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F64243D41 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 20:49:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lars.tunkrans@bredband.net) Received: from [192.168.245.231] ([213.112.167.129] [213.112.167.129]) by mxfep02.bredband.com with ESMTP <20040929204941.ZFSD27821.mxfep02.bredband.com@[192.168.245.231]>; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 22:49:41 +0200 Message-ID: <415B1F7D.4020901@bredband.net> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 22:47:57 +0200 From: Lars Tunkrans Organization: None User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040618 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rob References: <415AFFE8.5050404@pythonemproject.com> In-Reply-To: <415AFFE8.5050404@pythonemproject.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: amd-list Subject: Re: XFree86 libraries missing? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 20:49:44 -0000 Rob wrote: > I did a binary install last nite from a 5.3 beta AMD-64 iso. However, > any package that depended on X11 libraries wouldn't install, as it > seemed the libraries were missing from the CD. Is X11 OK on AMD-64? > Posts here seem to indicate that it works fine, but maybe they are > running under i386 emulation. Thank you, Rob. the Xorg ports installs correctly on BETA6 There was errors on BETA4 and BETA5 I had to build Xorg binaries and libs form /usr/ports in BETA4 and BETA5. //Lars From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 29 21:15:05 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84A0316A4CE; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 21:15:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CFDA43D2D; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 21:15:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D8A5D51262; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 14:15:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 14:15:28 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: current@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20040929211528.GA39358@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="h31gzZEtNLTqOjlF" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: amd64@FreeBSD.org Subject: "panic: vrele: negative ref cnt" on RELENG_5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 21:15:05 -0000 --h31gzZEtNLTqOjlF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline An amd64 machine I updated 5 days ago panicked with this at reboot time: Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `vnlru' to stop...done Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `bufdaemon' to stop...done Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `syncer' to stop... Syncing disks, vnodes remaining...1 1 1 0 0 done No buffers busy after final sync panic: vrele: negative ref cnt kdb_enter() at kdb_enter+0x2f panic() at panic+0x1d2 vrele() at vrele+0x1ec ffs_unmount() at ffs_unmount+0x182 dounmount() at dounmount+0x171 vfs_unmountall() at vfs_unmountall+0x50 boot() at boot+0x809 reboot() at reboot+0x3d syscall() at syscall+0x4ab Xfast_syscall() at Xfast_syscall+0xa8 --- syscall (55, FreeBSD ELF64, reboot), rip = 0x20076d76c, rsp = 0x7fffffffebb8, rbp = 0x1b0ab --- Kris --h31gzZEtNLTqOjlF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBWyXwWry0BWjoQKURAmKfAJ9rz28VvP5aGx8XQ/+5aAbF1y1rhQCeK/xe 0lehBlFlgo2vuJOEpLEVlYE= =jjMB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --h31gzZEtNLTqOjlF-- From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 29 23:27:51 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA1F716A4CF for ; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 23:27:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from daintree.corp.yahoo.com (daintree.corp.yahoo.com [216.145.52.172]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87A0B43D41 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 23:27:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@yahoo-inc.com) Received: by daintree.corp.yahoo.com (Postfix, from userid 2154) id 7631D8803; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 16:27:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Peter Wemm To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 16:27:51 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <41542753.30409@pythonemproject.com> <41544F5B.4080509@bredband.net> In-Reply-To: <41544F5B.4080509@bredband.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200409291627.51178.peter@wemm.org> Subject: Re: square power socket on AMD 64 boards X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 23:27:51 -0000 On Friday 24 September 2004 09:46 am, Lars Tunkrans wrote: > Rob wrote: > > Is it mandatory to use this square socket or just an option? > > IT IS Mandatory !!! Depends. Some boards work with it disconnected, others won't power up. I have several that don't care. There is 12V power coming in via the main atx plug as well. Some boards bus together all the 12V power sources. Others run the cpu voltage regulator exclusively from the 4-pin socket. If you have a board that uses the former (it seems many athlon64 boards are), then the only risk is that your motherboard may be drawing more 12V power than the PSU can handle. You'll see this by watching the hardware monitor showing a serious drop in the 12V rail. Again though, I haven't seen any that this is a problem. I'd expect this to be a bigger problem in the pentium-4 world. Of course, you can always get a hard-drive plug -> 4-pin atx adapter cable too. -- Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 29 23:40:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E89C716A4D6 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 23:40:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E91A343D1F for ; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 23:40:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) i8TNePD9028519 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 23:40:25 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8TNePwd028518; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 23:40:25 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 23:40:25 GMT Message-Id: <200409292340.i8TNePwd028518@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org From: Peter Wemm Subject: Re: amd64/71674 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Peter Wemm List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 23:40:27 -0000 The following reply was made to PR amd64/71674; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Peter Wemm To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Cc: Subject: Re: amd64/71674 Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 16:34:03 -0700 This is actually "as designed". You are not supposed to link a .a file into a .so file. i386 lets you get away with it, but on amd64 it is fatal. However.. it looks like we don't have a libobjc.so anymore. This probably explains your problem... -- Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 30 00:33:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAEA216A4CE for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 00:33:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6B2F43D5C for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 00:33:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rob2@pythonemproject.com) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (c-67-169-203-186.client.comcast.net[67.169.203.186]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with ESMTP id <200409300033050140016sooe> (Authid: europax); Thu, 30 Sep 2004 00:33:05 +0000 Message-ID: <415B54C5.6050807@pythonemproject.com> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 17:35:17 -0700 From: Rob User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040816 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: amd-list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: newby AMD-64 port compiling questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 00:33:07 -0000 I know on Windoze, i386 and 64 bit applications are supposed to coexist. Is this true on FreeBSD? If so, is the port collection set up so that known problem 64bit ports only compile under i386? How do I know whether a port or binary is i386 or 64 bit? with the port I suppose the Makefile would tell me Is there a switch that will allow me to choose either i386 or 64 bit when compiling a port? If these kinds of questions are answered in a FAQ or handbook section, please point me in the right direction. Otherwise after I figure all of this out I would not mind writing it all up myself. Rob From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 30 00:37:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAC5416A4CE for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 00:37:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7517643D48 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 00:37:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id i8U0f9Y3031987; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 17:41:09 -0700 Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0/Submit) id i8U0f94s031986; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 17:41:09 -0700 Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 17:41:09 -0700 From: Brooks Davis To: Rob Message-ID: <20040930004109.GA31644@odin.ac.hmc.edu> References: <415B54C5.6050807@pythonemproject.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="17pEHd4RhPHOinZp" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <415B54C5.6050807@pythonemproject.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=8.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on odin.ac.hmc.edu cc: amd-list Subject: Re: newby AMD-64 port compiling questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 00:37:16 -0000 --17pEHd4RhPHOinZp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 05:35:17PM -0700, Rob wrote: > I know on Windoze, i386 and 64 bit applications are supposed to coexist. >=20 > Is this true on FreeBSD? You can run 32-bit and 64-bit applications on the same machine. > If so, is the port collection set up so that known problem 64bit ports=20 > only compile under i386? No. Our goal is to primairly support native applictions without too much mixing. > How do I know whether a port or binary is i386 or 64 bit? with the port= =20 > I suppose the Makefile would tell me >=20 > Is there a switch that will allow me to choose either i386 or 64 bit=20 > when compiling a port? This might be a useful thing, but it isn't something we support today. -- Brooks --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --17pEHd4RhPHOinZp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBW1YkXY6L6fI4GtQRAgFIAKDPJUUshbxHrTMasr+GcEqTKFmwmQCggmEq l7ThccMWQbJxuupcIvfI3p0= =tMNH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --17pEHd4RhPHOinZp-- From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 30 01:56:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C226D16A4CE; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 01:56:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from www.mmlab.cse.yzu.edu.tw (www.mmlab.cse.yzu.edu.tw [140.138.145.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5581E43D45; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 01:56:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from avatar@mmlab.cse.yzu.edu.tw) Received: by www.mmlab.cse.yzu.edu.tw (qmail, from userid 1000) id 69FE94EFCD6; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 09:56:20 +0800 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.mmlab.cse.yzu.edu.tw (qmail) with ESMTP id 603F74EFCD3; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 09:56:20 +0800 (CST) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 09:56:20 +0800 (CST) From: Tai-hwa Liang To: Kris Kennaway In-Reply-To: <20040929211528.GA39358@xor.obsecurity.org> Message-ID: <04093009424918.48502@www.mmlab.cse.yzu.edu.tw> References: <20040929211528.GA39358@xor.obsecurity.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: amd64@FreeBSD.org cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: "panic: vrele: negative ref cnt" on RELENG_5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 01:56:24 -0000 Hi, I ran into this panic on a Pentium 4 box two hours ago; however, there's no backtrace available since the box was booted with 5.3-BETA6-i386-disc2: panic: vrele: negative ref cnt boot() called on cpu#1 Uptime: 8h54m1s The operations performed before the panic took place were: mount /dev/ad4s3f /mnt # an UFS1 FreeBSD slice mkdir /mnt3 mount_msdosfs /dev/ad5s3 /mnt3 # a FAT32 partition bsdtar -cpvf /mnt3/backup.tar /mnt ^D # leave the FIXIT shell, BOOM! Not sure this is relevant, but there're a couple of "ad4: FAILURE ... UNCORRETABLE.. LBA=xxx..." errors while bsdtar was running. On Wed, 29 Sep 2004, Kris Kennaway wrote: > An amd64 machine I updated 5 days ago panicked with this at reboot > time: > > Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `vnlru' to stop...done > Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `bufdaemon' to stop...done > Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `syncer' to stop... > Syncing disks, vnodes remaining...1 1 1 0 0 done > No buffers busy after final sync > panic: vrele: negative ref cnt > kdb_enter() at kdb_enter+0x2f > panic() at panic+0x1d2 > vrele() at vrele+0x1ec > ffs_unmount() at ffs_unmount+0x182 > dounmount() at dounmount+0x171 > vfs_unmountall() at vfs_unmountall+0x50 > boot() at boot+0x809 > reboot() at reboot+0x3d > syscall() at syscall+0x4ab > Xfast_syscall() at Xfast_syscall+0xa8 > --- syscall (55, FreeBSD ELF64, reboot), rip = 0x20076d76c, rsp = 0x7fffffffebb8, rbp = 0x1b0ab --- From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 30 11:56:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6834516A4D0 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 11:56:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from www1.brozs.net (www1.brozs.net [195.154.177.52]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 858F443D1F for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 11:56:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tfagart@brozs.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.brozs.net [127.0.0.1]) by www1.brozs.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 484E88152 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 13:46:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from www1.brozs.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (www1.brozs.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 86897-10 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 13:46:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from webmail.brozs.net (localhost.brozs.net [127.0.0.1]) by www1.brozs.net (Postfix) with SMTP id DBC7080E3 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 13:46:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 64.236.216.30 (SquirrelMail authenticated user tfagart@brozs.net) by webmail.brozs.net with HTTP; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 13:46:21 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4098.64.236.216.30.1096544781.squirrel@webmail.brozs.net> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 13:46:21 +0200 (CEST) From: tfagart@brozs.net To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at brozs.net Subject: 5.3Beta6 not working with Asus K8V Deluxe SE X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 11:56:39 -0000 Hello, I'm using 5.2.1-i386 on Asus K8V Deluxe SE successfully. My attempt to install 5.2.1-amd64 was successful, but then the system was not stable at all (hanging while compiling software for sample). Each time it hangs i've got the page fault message. I've tried to install 5.3Beta5-amd64, with ACPI disable, but while doing the install of the ports I also got the message Panic : page fault and systems hangs. With 5.3Beta6-am64, the install was successfull, but then I still got System hang, each time I launch compilation. I think this might be related to kern/70931 but it is in Waiting for feedback state. Do you think there's a chance that the 5.3-Stable for amd64 will work for this motherboard ? Thomas From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 30 13:40:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBA7716A4D0 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 13:40:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pandora.cs.kun.nl (pandora.cs.kun.nl [131.174.33.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 260BB43D5E for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 13:40:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from groot@kde.org) Received: from odin.cs.kun.nl [131.174.33.33] (helo=localhost) by pandora.cs.kun.nl (8.12.10/4.18) with ESMTP id i8UDeHtA028265; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 15:40:17 +0200 (MEST) From: Adriaan de Groot To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 15:40:02 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.1 References: <4098.64.236.216.30.1096544781.squirrel@webmail.brozs.net> In-Reply-To: <4098.64.236.216.30.1096544781.squirrel@webmail.brozs.net> Organization: KPilot.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200409301540.03289.groot@kde.org> Subject: Re: 5.3Beta6 not working with Asus K8V Deluxe SE X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 13:40:31 -0000 On Thursday 30 September 2004 13:46, tfagart@brozs.net wrote: > I'm using 5.2.1-i386 on Asus K8V Deluxe SE successfully. > My attempt to install 5.2.1-amd64 was successful, but then the system > was not stable at all (hanging while compiling software for sample). > > Do you think there's a chance that the 5.3-Stable for amd64 will work for > this motherboard ? I started using amd64 on a K8VSE with - I think 5.1 - and have been following 5-CURRENT since then; it works fine most of the time. WHether the _install_ CDs work nicely, I can't really say. -- KPilot - www.kpilot.org - HotSync Solutions for KDE From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 30 14:20:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC81916A4CE; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 14:20:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smarthost1.sentex.ca (smarthost1.sentex.ca [64.7.153.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4023F43D39; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 14:20:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp1.sentex.ca (smtp1.sentex.ca [199.212.134.4]) by smarthost1.sentex.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i8UEKMR7097004; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 10:20:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: from freebsd-current.sentex.ca (freebsd-current.sentex.ca [64.7.128.98]) by smtp1.sentex.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i8UEKMgi004329; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 10:20:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: by freebsd-current.sentex.ca (Postfix, from userid 666) id 10AFF7303F; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 10:20:22 -0400 (EDT) Sender: FreeBSD Tinderbox From: FreeBSD Tinderbox To: FreeBSD Tinderbox , , Precedence: bulk Message-Id: <20040930142022.10AFF7303F@freebsd-current.sentex.ca> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 10:20:22 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [current tinderbox] failure on amd64/amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 14:20:23 -0000 TB --- 2004-09-30 13:01:42 - tinderbox 2.3 running on freebsd-current.sentex.ca TB --- 2004-09-30 13:01:42 - starting CURRENT tinderbox run for amd64/amd64 TB --- 2004-09-30 13:01:42 - checking out the source tree TB --- 2004-09-30 13:01:42 - cd /home/tinderbox/CURRENT/amd64/amd64 TB --- 2004-09-30 13:01:42 - /usr/bin/cvs -f -R -q -d/home/ncvs update -Pd -A src TB --- 2004-09-30 13:07:49 - building world (CFLAGS=-O2 -pipe) TB --- 2004-09-30 13:07:49 - cd /home/tinderbox/CURRENT/amd64/amd64/src TB --- 2004-09-30 13:07:49 - /usr/bin/make -B buildworld >>> Rebuilding the temporary build tree >>> stage 1.1: legacy release compatibility shims >>> stage 1.2: bootstrap tools >>> stage 2.1: cleaning up the object tree >>> stage 2.2: rebuilding the object tree >>> stage 2.3: build tools >>> stage 3: cross tools >>> stage 4.1: building includes >>> stage 4.2: building libraries >>> stage 4.3: make dependencies >>> stage 4.4: building everything TB --- 2004-09-30 14:14:08 - building generic kernel (COPTFLAGS=-O2 -pipe) TB --- 2004-09-30 14:14:08 - cd /home/tinderbox/CURRENT/amd64/amd64/src TB --- 2004-09-30 14:14:08 - /usr/bin/make buildkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC >>> Kernel build for GENERIC started on Thu Sep 30 14:14:08 UTC 2004 >>> stage 1: configuring the kernel >>> stage 2.1: cleaning up the object tree >>> stage 2.2: rebuilding the object tree >>> stage 2.3: build tools >>> stage 3.1: making dependencies >>> stage 3.2: building everything [...] /tinderbox/CURRENT/amd64/amd64/src/sys/kern/subr_unit.c: In function `free_unr': /tinderbox/CURRENT/amd64/amd64/src/sys/kern/subr_unit.c:329: warning: passing arg 1 of `check_unrhdr' from incompatible pointer type /tinderbox/CURRENT/amd64/amd64/src/sys/kern/subr_unit.c:366: warning: passing arg 1 of `check_unrhdr' from incompatible pointer type /tinderbox/CURRENT/amd64/amd64/src/sys/kern/subr_unit.c:386: warning: passing arg 1 of `check_unrhdr' from incompatible pointer type /tinderbox/CURRENT/amd64/amd64/src/sys/kern/subr_unit.c:396: warning: passing arg 1 of `check_unrhdr' from incompatible pointer type /tinderbox/CURRENT/amd64/amd64/src/sys/kern/subr_unit.c:407: warning: passing arg 1 of `check_unrhdr' from incompatible pointer type /tinderbox/CURRENT/amd64/amd64/src/sys/kern/subr_unit.c:435: warning: passing arg 1 of `check_unrhdr' from incompatible pointer type /tinderbox/CURRENT/amd64/amd64/src/sys/kern/subr_unit.c:510: warning: passing arg 1 of `check_unrhdr' from incompatible pointer type *** Error code 1 Stop in /tinderbox/CURRENT/amd64/amd64/obj/amd64/tinderbox/CURRENT/amd64/amd64/src/sys/GENERIC. *** Error code 1 Stop in /tinderbox/CURRENT/amd64/amd64/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /tinderbox/CURRENT/amd64/amd64/src. TB --- 2004-09-30 14:20:21 - WARNING: /usr/bin/make returned exit code 1 TB --- 2004-09-30 14:20:21 - ERROR: failed to build generic kernel TB --- 2004-09-30 14:20:21 - tinderbox aborted From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 30 17:01:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABC8A16A4CE for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 17:01:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B0A143D41 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 17:01:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rob2@pythonemproject.com) Received: from pythonemproject.com (c-67-169-203-186.client.comcast.net[67.169.203.186]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with ESMTP id <2004093017012001200182gqe> (Authid: europax); Thu, 30 Sep 2004 17:01:20 +0000 Message-ID: <415C3C61.1010705@pythonemproject.com> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 10:03:29 -0700 From: Rob User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: grub port question X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: rob2@pythonemproject.com List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 17:01:21 -0000 I was going to try to use grub for booting from my multidisk system, as I was told that the bootup process is done in i386, then it is transfered to 64 bit mode. So grub works OK. But last nite I tried to install grub from ports and got the message immediately (paraphrasing) "that I could not compile a 32 bit application on a 64 bit OS." So now I'm really confused LOL. Rob. From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 30 18:44:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3B5A16A4CE for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 18:44:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from canning.wemm.org (canning.wemm.org [192.203.228.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8959D43D39 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 18:44:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@evilpete.dyndns.org) Received: from fw.wemm.org (canning.wemm.org [192.203.228.65]) by canning.wemm.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EF6D2A8D5 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 11:44:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@overcee.wemm.org) Received: from overcee.wemm.org (overcee.wemm.org [10.0.0.3]) by fw.wemm.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E678AE2B3 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 11:44:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@overcee.wemm.org) Received: from overcee.wemm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.wemm.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8UIiIqY087550; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 11:44:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@overcee.wemm.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by overcee.wemm.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8UIiDN1087549; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 11:44:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter) From: Peter Wemm To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org, rob2@pythonemproject.com Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 11:44:12 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.1 References: <415C3C61.1010705@pythonemproject.com> In-Reply-To: <415C3C61.1010705@pythonemproject.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200409301144.13174.peter@wemm.org> Subject: Re: grub port question X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 18:44:21 -0000 On Thursday 30 September 2004 10:03 am, Rob wrote: > I was going to try to use grub for booting from my multidisk system, > as I was told that the bootup process is done in i386, then it is > transfered to 64 bit mode. So grub works OK. But last nite I tried > to install grub from ports and got the message immediately > (paraphrasing) "that I could not compile a 32 bit application on a 64 > bit OS." > > So now I'm really confused LOL. In a nutshell, the toolchain has various flags/switches to control its operating mode. For example, gcc has -m32 and -m64. The catch is that we do not install the 32 bit version of the include files yet. And you have to use tools/lib32/build32.sh to build the 32 bit libraries. The rest of the toolchain has various mode switches. eg: as --32 etc. gcc could be slightly tweaked to use the correct include and library paths, but for now it needs horrible -I and -L switches. However, the port problem is that it doesn't know any of these magic options. I hate to say it, but the easiest thing is probably to just fetch the i386 package for now. If pkg_add won't do it, then it should be possible to extract the tarball by hand and do the deed. Not pretty, I know. -- Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 30 19:11:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B8F516A4CE for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 19:11:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DD3043D2F for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 19:11:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rob2@pythonemproject.com) Received: from pythonemproject.com (c-67-169-203-186.client.comcast.net[67.169.203.186]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with ESMTP id <2004093019112101600kr9v6e> (Authid: europax); Thu, 30 Sep 2004 19:11:22 +0000 Message-ID: <415C5ADA.2030007@pythonemproject.com> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 12:13:30 -0700 From: Rob User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Wemm References: <415C3C61.1010705@pythonemproject.com> <200409301144.13174.peter@wemm.org> In-Reply-To: <200409301144.13174.peter@wemm.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: grub port question X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: rob2@pythonemproject.com List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 19:11:23 -0000 Peter Wemm wrote: >On Thursday 30 September 2004 10:03 am, Rob wrote: > > >>I was going to try to use grub for booting from my multidisk system, >>as I was told that the bootup process is done in i386, then it is >>transfered to 64 bit mode. So grub works OK. But last nite I tried >>to install grub from ports and got the message immediately >>(paraphrasing) "that I could not compile a 32 bit application on a 64 >>bit OS." >> >>So now I'm really confused LOL. >> >> > >In a nutshell, the toolchain has various flags/switches to control its >operating mode. For example, gcc has -m32 and -m64. The catch is that >we do not install the 32 bit version of the include files yet. And you >have to use tools/lib32/build32.sh to build the 32 bit libraries. The >rest of the toolchain has various mode switches. eg: as --32 etc. gcc >could be slightly tweaked to use the correct include and library paths, >but for now it needs horrible -I and -L switches. > >However, the port problem is that it doesn't know any of these magic >options. I hate to say it, but the easiest thing is probably to just >fetch the i386 package for now. If pkg_add won't do it, then it should >be possible to extract the tarball by hand and do the deed. Not >pretty, I know. > > Thank you Peter for the help and valuable info. Rob From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 30 19:31:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D1BA16A4CE for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 19:31:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.broadpark.no (mail.broadpark.no [217.13.4.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69D9543D39 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 19:31:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from henrik.w.lund@broadpark.no) Received: from [10.0.0.3] (52.80-202-129.nextgentel.com [80.202.129.52]) by mail.broadpark.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3CC27524; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 21:32:16 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: <415CDCF0.4020302@broadpark.no> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 21:28:32 -0700 From: Henrik W Lund User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040616 X-Accept-Language: nb, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Wemm References: <415C3C61.1010705@pythonemproject.com> <200409301144.13174.peter@wemm.org> In-Reply-To: <200409301144.13174.peter@wemm.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: grub port question X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 19:31:36 -0000 Peter Wemm wrote: >On Thursday 30 September 2004 10:03 am, Rob wrote: > > >>I was going to try to use grub for booting from my multidisk system, >>as I was told that the bootup process is done in i386, then it is >>transfered to 64 bit mode. So grub works OK. But last nite I tried >>to install grub from ports and got the message immediately >>(paraphrasing) "that I could not compile a 32 bit application on a 64 >>bit OS." >> >>So now I'm really confused LOL. >> >> > >In a nutshell, the toolchain has various flags/switches to control its >operating mode. For example, gcc has -m32 and -m64. The catch is that >we do not install the 32 bit version of the include files yet. And you >have to use tools/lib32/build32.sh to build the 32 bit libraries. The >rest of the toolchain has various mode switches. eg: as --32 etc. gcc >could be slightly tweaked to use the correct include and library paths, >but for now it needs horrible -I and -L switches. > >However, the port problem is that it doesn't know any of these magic >options. I hate to say it, but the easiest thing is probably to just >fetch the i386 package for now. If pkg_add won't do it, then it should >be possible to extract the tarball by hand and do the deed. Not >pretty, I know. > > Greetings! Will this be resolved for 5.3-RELEASE, or is the problem complicated on a deeper level? If not for -RELEASE, will it ever happen in -STABLE? I got the impression that one of the developers (I believe it was David O'Brien) wanted to see a 64-bit kernel and (mostly) 32-bit world, as having a 64-bit world isn't really all that beneficial. This, of course, led me to thinking that work is being done to accomodate this in a non-hackish way. Am I way off the mark here? -- Henrik W Lund From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 30 20:00:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A05316A4D2 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 20:00:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B4FB43D53 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 20:00:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) i8UK0dw6007582 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 20:00:39 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8UK0dbS007581; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 20:00:39 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 20:00:39 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200409302000.i8UK0dbS007581@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, mv Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78E5E16A4CE for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 19:53:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [216.136.204.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E2FD43D39 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 19:53:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8UJrc6t070615 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 19:53:38 GMT (envelope-from nobody@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8UJrciG070614; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 19:53:38 GMT (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200409301953.i8UJrciG070614@www.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 19:53:38 GMT From: mv To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-2.3 Subject: amd64/72213: No vesa device X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 20:00:43 -0000 >Number: 72213 >Category: amd64 >Synopsis: No vesa device >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-amd64 >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: update >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Sep 30 20:00:39 GMT 2004 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: mv >Release: FreeBSD 5.3-BETA6/amd64 >Organization: >Environment: FreeBSD gecko3.bs.net 5.3-BETA6 FreeBSD 5.3-BETA6 #0: Wed Sep 29 02:11:49 EDT 20 04 root@gecko3.bs.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CUSTOM3 amd64 >Description: Not able to add vesa capability to amd64 platform, either by recompiling the kernel or loading a module. vidcontrol -i mode output only shows one mode available. My graphics card is an agp-based radeon 9600 pro which is recognized by xorg/xfree86 when ' device agp' is added to the kernel. Otherwise 5.x amd64 just gets better. Many thanks for such goog work. >How-To-Repeat: Not able to add vesa to the kernel configuration file. >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 30 20:44:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1FE616A4CE; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 20:44:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7254143D55; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 20:44:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 859C85138B; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 13:45:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 13:45:08 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: amd64@FreeBSD.org, current@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20040930204508.GA10958@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Fatal trap 9 in pmap_remove_pages X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 20:44:36 -0000 --1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline I updated an amd64 package machine to RELENG_5 yesterday, and it just died with: Fatal trap 9: general protection fault while in kernel mode instruction pointer = 0x8:0xffffffff8033e0a0 stack pointer = 0x10:0xffffffff966a2ab0 frame pointer = 0x10:0xffffffff966a2af0 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, long 1, def32 0, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 16123 (sh) [thread 100214] Stopped at pmap_remove_pages+0x1a0: decl %esp db> tr pmap_remove_pages() at pmap_remove_pages+0x1a0 exit1() at exit1+0xeb3 sys_exit() at sys_exit+0xe syscall() at syscall+0x4ab Xfast_syscall() at Xfast_syscall+0xa8 --- syscall (1, FreeBSD ELF64, sys_exit), rip = 0x200915c68, rsp = 0x7fffffffd3b8, rbp = 0x1 --- Kris --1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBXHBUWry0BWjoQKURAhS3AKCCAbT5kT2o1IGqj2w86EgjK26GgQCeN7D1 JFyMQhlySTxV+k3JvfK3lVU= =VLY6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7-- From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 30 21:24:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9436A16A4CF for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 21:24:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freebee.digiware.nl (dsl439.iae.nl [212.61.63.187]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24F6C43D41 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 21:24:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wjw@withagen.nl) Received: from [212.61.27.71] (dual [212.61.27.71]) by freebee.digiware.nl (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8ULO79S025160; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 23:24:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wjw@withagen.nl) Message-ID: <415C7977.5040602@withagen.nl> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 23:24:07 +0200 From: Willem Jan Withagen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rob2@pythonemproject.com References: <415C3C61.1010705@pythonemproject.com> <200409301144.13174.peter@wemm.org> <415C5ADA.2030007@pythonemproject.com> In-Reply-To: <415C5ADA.2030007@pythonemproject.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: grub port question X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 21:24:11 -0000 Rob wrote: > Peter Wemm wrote: > >> On Thursday 30 September 2004 10:03 am, Rob wrote: >> >> >>> I was going to try to use grub for booting from my multidisk system, >>> as I was told that the bootup process is done in i386, then it is >>> transfered to 64 bit mode. So grub works OK. But last nite I tried >>> to install grub from ports and got the message immediately >>> (paraphrasing) "that I could not compile a 32 bit application on a 64 >>> bit OS." >>> >>> So now I'm really confused LOL. >>> >> >> >> In a nutshell, the toolchain has various flags/switches to control >> its operating mode. For example, gcc has -m32 and -m64. The catch >> is that we do not install the 32 bit version of the include files >> yet. And you have to use tools/lib32/build32.sh to build the 32 bit >> libraries. The rest of the toolchain has various mode switches. eg: >> as --32 etc. gcc could be slightly tweaked to use the correct >> include and library paths, but for now it needs horrible -I and -L >> switches. >> >> However, the port problem is that it doesn't know any of these magic >> options. I hate to say it, but the easiest thing is probably to just >> fetch the i386 package for now. If pkg_add won't do it, then it >> should be possible to extract the tarball by hand and do the deed. >> Not pretty, I know. >> >> This was probably due to the cryptic information I mailed. I should have mentioned that you need to compile it on the i386 platform, which is also the location where I installed it. This all under the assumption that you would also like to install a FreeBSD-i386, like I did. Sorry for the misinformation. --WjW From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 1 03:53:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A71DE16A4CE for ; Fri, 1 Oct 2004 03:53:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E14D43D31 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 2004 03:53:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rob2@pythonemproject.com) Received: from pythonemproject.com (c-67-169-203-186.client.comcast.net[67.169.203.186]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with ESMTP id <2004100103532701300c4j34e> (Authid: europax); Fri, 1 Oct 2004 03:53:27 +0000 Message-ID: <415CD53C.7060606@pythonemproject.com> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 20:55:40 -0700 From: Rob User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Willem Jan Withagen References: <415C3C61.1010705@pythonemproject.com> <200409301144.13174.peter@wemm.org> <415C5ADA.2030007@pythonemproject.com> <415C7977.5040602@withagen.nl> In-Reply-To: <415C7977.5040602@withagen.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: grub port question X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: rob2@pythonemproject.com List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 03:53:28 -0000 Willem Jan Withagen wrote: > Rob wrote: > >> Peter Wemm wrote: >> >>> On Thursday 30 September 2004 10:03 am, Rob wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I was going to try to use grub for booting from my multidisk system, >>>> as I was told that the bootup process is done in i386, then it is >>>> transfered to 64 bit mode. So grub works OK. But last nite I tried >>>> to install grub from ports and got the message immediately >>>> (paraphrasing) "that I could not compile a 32 bit application on a 64 >>>> bit OS." >>>> >>>> So now I'm really confused LOL. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> In a nutshell, the toolchain has various flags/switches to control >>> its operating mode. For example, gcc has -m32 and -m64. The catch >>> is that we do not install the 32 bit version of the include files >>> yet. And you have to use tools/lib32/build32.sh to build the 32 bit >>> libraries. The rest of the toolchain has various mode switches. >>> eg: as --32 etc. gcc could be slightly tweaked to use the correct >>> include and library paths, but for now it needs horrible -I and -L >>> switches. >>> >>> However, the port problem is that it doesn't know any of these magic >>> options. I hate to say it, but the easiest thing is probably to >>> just fetch the i386 package for now. If pkg_add won't do it, then >>> it should be possible to extract the tarball by hand and do the >>> deed. Not pretty, I know. >>> >>> > This was probably due to the cryptic information I mailed. > I should have mentioned that you need to compile it on the i386 > platform, which is also the location where I installed it. > This all under the assumption that you would also like to install a > FreeBSD-i386, like I did. > > Sorry for the misinformation. > --WjW > > Oh OK, I thought that might be the case. Perhaps a mini-FBSD 32 bit system on my AMD-64 box would be a good addition. Rob From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 1 04:47:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A712216A4CE for ; Fri, 1 Oct 2004 04:47:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from beer.ux6.net (beer.ux6.net [64.62.253.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 636E043D1D for ; Fri, 1 Oct 2004 04:47:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from miha@ghuug.org) Received: (qmail 27870 invoked by uid 113); 30 Sep 2004 21:47:34 -0700 Received: from 205.177.65.128 by beer.ux6.net (envelope-from , uid 112) with qmail-scanner-1.23 (clamdscan: 0.70. spamassassin: 2.64. Clear:RC:0(205.177.65.128):SA:0(4.7/6.0):. Processed in 3.750471 secs); 01 Oct 2004 04:47:34 -0000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=4.7 required=6.0 X-Spam-Level: ++++ Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (miha@beer.ux6.net@205.177.65.128) by localhost with SMTP; 30 Sep 2004 21:47:30 -0700 From: "Mikhail P." To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 04:47:27 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <4098.64.236.216.30.1096544781.squirrel@webmail.brozs.net> <200409301540.03289.groot@kde.org> In-Reply-To: <200409301540.03289.groot@kde.org> Organization: Ghana Unix Users Group MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410010447.27881.miha@ghuug.org> Subject: Re: 5.3Beta6 not working with Asus K8V Deluxe SE X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: miha@ghuug.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 04:47:34 -0000 On Thursday 30 September 2004 13:40, Adriaan de Groot wrote: > I started using amd64 on a K8VSE with - I think 5.1 - and have been > following 5-CURRENT since then; it works fine most of the time. WHether the > _install_ CDs work nicely, I can't really say. Same thing here - loaded OS as 5.2.1 on K8V SE, and then CVSup'ed to FreeBSD-5.3BETA - works great since. regards, M. From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 2 14:18:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4C2016A4CE for ; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 14:18:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.hydrix.com (ns1.hydrix.com [218.214.210.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95A0543D55 for ; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 14:18:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jean-yves.avenard@hydrix.com) Received: from [192.168.2.4] (adsl-24-29.swiftdsl.com.au [218.214.24.29]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.hydrix.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i92EIL3r083094 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 3 Oct 2004 00:18:22 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jean-yves.avenard@hydrix.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org From: Jean-Yves Avenard Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 00:18:10 +1000 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=6.5 tests=LINES_OF_YELLING autolearn=no version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on server2.private.hydrix.com X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version 0.75.1, clamav-milter version 0.75c on server2.private.hydrix.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: FreeBSD AMD 64 just hangs during boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 14:18:28 -0000 Dear all. I've been trying for month to get my server to run FreeBSD 5.x AMD64 without much luck. So far I always thought that the culprit was the 3ware 9500-8S card. The server has the following configuration: -Tyan K8S Pro (S2882) with one Opteron 2.2Ghz , 1GB ECC RAM. http://www.tyan.com/products/html/thunderk8spro.html -Main hard drive is a Seagate ST373307LW (SCSI 73GB, 10Krpm) running on the on-board Adaptec AIC7902 Ultra320 SCSI adapter -3ware 9500-8S card driving 6 Western Digital SATA 73GB, 10Krpm disk. Here is the history of my attempt. With FreeBSD 5.2.1 for amd64 , the system would boot just fine but the 3ware card wouldn't be recognized (which was expected as the twa driver wasn't present). Compiling at the time the 3ware driver would just hang when the twa kernel module got loaded. At that point I gave up and installed FreeBSD 5.2.1 for x86. After a few weeks, I installed FreeBSD-current when the twa driver got into the kernel. x86 target no problem, when amd64 target was installed as soon as the card was being recognized it would just die. Yesterday, I got FreeBSD 5.3 RELENG_5 (5.3 Beta6)... x86 just fine, all works, AMD64 version: hangs just after displaying the message that it's mounting the / directory. Different things I tried: 1)From source upgrading to FreeBSD 5.3 Beta6 from the source on the FreeBSD x86 FreeBSD 5.3 doing: >make buildworld TARGET_ARCH=amd64 >make buildkernel TARGET_ARCH=amd64 >make installkernel TARGET_ARCH=amd64 then reboot in single mode.. Still it locks when mounting / 2)Using the mini-install disk: performing a binary upgrade. Same as 1) Locks when mounting / 3)At that stage I was convinced it was the 3ware card as it wasn't recognized before. So I removed the 3ware card from the server and was amazed to see that it wasn't the 3ware card after all, but it seems to be the Adaptec SCSI Ultra320!! When this one was working fine in the past. I thought of a drivers incompatibility, so in the BIOS I disabled *everything*: -serial port, parallel port, acpi, built-in SATA, gigabit interface, etc... Leaving only the SCSI. Still no luck hangs when mounting / drive 4)I thought it could be some issues with the Seagate drive as I read on the net that some drives had issues when interface was too fast. So using the Adaptec BIOS interface I slowed down the SCSI to Ultra160, then 33 etc... Still the same lock when mounting / So what's next? unfortunately, I can't provide logs when booting the amd64 version. But as it looks just like the x86 output. What's bizarre is that if I boot from the FreeBSD AMD64 CD it boots fine and all disks and interfaces are recognized. So here it is, any advice or recommendation will be welcome, I feel very frustrated on this one. My last plan is to format the main disk and re-install from scratch, so there would be no x86 , amd64 mixture. Thank you in advance Jean-Yves Copyright (c) 1992-2004 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.3-BETA6 #1: Sat Oct 2 09:33:48 EST 2004 root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CUSTOM_SERVER3 ACPI APIC Table: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 248 (2190.49-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0xf5a Stepping = 10 Features=0x78bfbff AMD Features=0xe0500000 real memory = 1073676288 (1023 MB) avail memory = 1041117184 (992 MB) MADT: Forcing active-low polarity and level trigger for SCI ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard ioapic1 irqs 24-27 on motherboard ioapic2 irqs 28-31 on motherboard npx0: [FAST] npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x5008-0x500b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 6.0 on pci0 pci3: on pcib1 ohci0: mem 0xfeafd000-0xfeafdfff irq 19 at device 0.0 on pci3 ohci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support usb0: SMM does not respond, resetting usb0: on ohci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: AMD OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered ohci1: mem 0xfeafe000-0xfeafefff irq 19 at device 0.1 on pci3 ohci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb1: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support usb1: SMM does not respond, resetting usb1: on ohci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: AMD OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered pci3: at device 6.0 (no driver attached) fxp0: port 0xac00-0xac3f mem 0xfeaa0000-0xfeabffff,0xfeafc000-0xfeafcfff irq 18 at device 8.0 on pci3 miibus0: on fxp0 inphy0: on miibus0 inphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto fxp0: Ethernet address: 00:e0:81:29:c0:30 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xffa0-0xffaf,0x376,0x170-0x177,0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 7.1 on pci0 ata0: channel #0 on atapci0 ata1: channel #1 on atapci0 pci0: at device 7.2 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 7.3 (no driver attached) pcib2: at device 10.0 on pci0 pci2: on pcib2 ahd0: port 0x8800-0x88ff,0x9000-0x90ff mem 0xfc9fc000-0xfc9fdfff irq 24 at device 6.0 on pci2 ahd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] aic7902: Ultra320 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, PCI-X 67-100Mhz, 512 SCBs ahd1: port 0x9400-0x94ff,0x9800-0x98ff mem 0xfc9fe000-0xfc9fffff irq 25 at device 6.1 on pci2 ahd1: [GIANT-LOCKED] aic7902: Ultra320 Wide Channel B, SCSI Id=7, PCI-X 67-100Mhz, 512 SCBs bge0: mem 0xfc9a0000-0xfc9affff,0xfc9b0000-0xfc9bffff irq 24 at device 9.0 on pci2 miibus1: on bge0 brgphy0: on miibus1 brgphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseTX, 1000baseTX-FDX, auto bge0: Ethernet address: 00:e0:81:29:c0:b0 bge1: mem 0xfc9d0000-0xfc9dffff,0xfc9e0000-0xfc9effff irq 25 at device 9.1 on pci2 miibus2: on bge1 brgphy1: on miibus2 brgphy1: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseTX, 1000baseTX-FDX, auto bge1: Ethernet address: 00:e0:81:29:c0:b1 pci0: at device 10.1 (no driver attached) pcib3: at device 11.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib3 3ware device driver for 9000 series storage controllers, version: 2.50.00.000 twa0: <3ware 9000 series Storage Controller> port 0x7800-0x78ff mem 0xfb800000-0xfbffffff,0xfc6ffc00-0xfc6ffcff irq 29 at device 1.0 on pci1 twa0: [GIANT-LOCKED] twa0: 8 ports, Firmware FE9X 2.02.00.012, BIOS BE9X 2.02.01.037 pci0: at device 11.1 (no driver attached) acpi_button0: on acpi0 atkbdc0: port 0x64,0x60 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: model IntelliMouse, device ID 3 sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0: port may not be enabled sio0 port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled sio1 port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on acpi0 sio1: type 16550A fdc0: port 0x3f7,0x3f0-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: [FAST] orm0: at iomem 0xd1000-0xd27ff,0xc0000-0xc7fff on isa0 pmtimer0 on isa0 ppc0: parallel port not found. sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounter "TSC" frequency 2190488152 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec acpi_cpu: throttling enabled, 8 steps (100% to 12.5%), currently 100.0% acd0: CDRW at ata1-slave UDMA33 Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle (probe16:ahd0:0:0:0): No or incomplete CDB sent to device. (probe16:ahd0:0:0:0): Protocol violation in Message-in phase. Attempting to abort. (probe16:ahd0:0:0:0): Abort Message Sent (probe16:ahd0:0:0:0): SCB 15 - Abort Tag Completed. found == 0x1 da0 at ahd0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da0: 320.000MB/s transfers (160.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 70007MB (143374744 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da1 at twa0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da1: <3ware Logical Disk 00 1.00> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device da1: 100.000MB/s transfers da1: 333735MB (683489280 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 42545C) Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0s1a *** THIS IS WHERE BOOTING THE AMD64 VERSION WOULD HANG bge0: gigabit link up --- Jean-Yves Avenard Hydrix Pty Ltd - Embedding the net www.hydrix.com | fax +61 3 9572 2686 | phone +61 3 9572 0686 ext 100 VoIP: direct: 100@voip.hydrix.com, general: info@voip.hydrix.com From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 2 14:43:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B746E16A4CE for ; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 14:43:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lyra.enemy.org (lyra.enemy.org [62.116.11.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BC8FD43D48 for ; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 14:43:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from acme@s2.enemy.org) Received: (qmail 10465 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2004 14:40:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO s2.enemy.org) (62.116.11.3) by lyra.enemy.org with SMTP; 2 Oct 2004 14:40:04 -0000 Received: from s2.enemy.org (acme@localhost.enemy.org [127.0.0.1]) by s2.enemy.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i92EhnmJ066830; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 16:43:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from acme@s2.enemy.org) Received: (from acme@localhost) by s2.enemy.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i92Ehljg066829; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 16:43:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from acme) Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 16:43:47 +0200 From: "Alex D'Elia" To: "Mikhail P." , freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041002144347.GA66319@enemy.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.9-STABLE Organization: Olocolors.org X-GPG-Id: E7A6E8B5 [expires: 2005-03-03] X-GPG-Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu X-GPG-Fingerprint: 5C5A 4866 9B71 D200 FDCC 8878 0B63 A477 E7A6 E8B5 Subject: amd64 on Asus K8V SE Deluxe X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 14:43:50 -0000 --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > On Thursday 30 September 2004 13:40, Adriaan de Groot wrote: > > I started using amd64 on a K8VSE with - I think 5.1 - and have been > > following 5-CURRENT since then; it works fine most of the time. WHether= the > > _install_ CDs work nicely, I can't really say. > > Same thing here - loaded OS as 5.2.1 on K8V SE, and then CVSup'ed to > FreeBSD-5.3BETA - works great since. > > regards, > M. > Hello there.... I got the same motherboard, and ( as I already wrote to the mailing list ) I could not install on the ATA HD, because of the TIMEOUTS and FAILURES. So I did get myself a new SATA which is connected to the Promise Controller and is working happily. Installation from amd64-BETA6 went fine, and i got the system up and runnin= g. You are saying that you are working on it since a while now, so maybe you know how to configure the sound card with the proper driver. I got ofcourse the=20 device sound but i dont know which should be the specific device ( ex. snd_ad1816 ) cause i could not find in the docs the sound device for the=20 ADI AD1980 SoundMAX ...... If you got a clue, before i would go by try&error :) would be greatly appriciated. I am posting to the mailing list too, cause I believe this would be of interest for other users :) Down follows the dmesg report:: bests. alex FreeBSD 5.3-BETA6 #0: Fri Oct 1 21:33:47 CEST 2004 root@...................:/usr/src/sys/amd64/compile/WUSHU ACPI APIC Table: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 2800+ (1802.32-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin =3D "AuthenticAMD" Id =3D 0xfc0 Stepping =3D 0 Features=3D0x78bfbff AMD Features=3D0xe0500800 real memory =3D 1072889856 (1023 MB) avail memory =3D 1025978368 (978 MB) ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 1 MADT: Forcing active-low polarity and level trigger for SCI ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 agp0: mem 0xf8000000-0xfbffffff at device 0.0= on pci0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pcib1: could not get PCI interrupt routing table for \\_SB_.PCI0.P0P1 - AE_= NOT_FOUND pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) fwohci0: port 0xbc00-0xbc7f mem 0xf7a00000-0xf7a007f= f irq 16 at device 7.0 on pci0 fwohci0: OHCI version 1.0 (ROM=3D1) fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channels is 4. fwohci0: EUI64 00:e0:18:00:00:79:68:fb fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S400, 2 ports. fwohci0: Link S400, max_rec 2048 bytes. firewire0: on fwohci0 fwe0: on firewire0 if_fwe0: Fake Ethernet address: 02:e0:18:79:68:fb fwe0: Ethernet address: 02:e0:18:79:68:fb fwe0: if_start running deferred for Giant sbp0: on firewire0 fwohci0: Initiate bus reset fwohci0: node_id=3D0xc800ffc0, gen=3D1, CYCLEMASTER mode firewire0: 1 nodes, maxhop <=3D 0, cable IRM =3D 0 (me) firewire0: bus manager 0 (me) atapci0: port 0xcc00-0xcc7f,0xdc00-0x= dc0f,0xec00-0xec3f mem 0x f7b00000-0xf7b1ffff,0xf7c00000-0xf7c00fff irq 18 at device 8.0 on pci0 atapci0: failed: rid 0x20 is memory, requested 4 ata2: channel #0 on atapci0 ata3: channel #1 on atapci0 ata4: channel #2 on atapci0 skc0: port 0xb000-0xb0ff mem 0xf7e00000-0xf7e03f= ff irq 17 at device 10.0=20 on pci0 skc0: Yukon Gigabit Ethernet 10/100/1000Base-T Adapter sk0: on skc0 sk0: Ethernet address: 00:11:2f:10:3c:64 miibus0: on sk0 e1000phy0: on miibus0 e1000phy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseTX-FDX,= auto atapci1: port 0xd000-0xd0ff,0xd400-0xd40f,0xd= 800-0xd803,0xe000-0xe007, 0xe400-0xe403,0xe800-0xe807 irq 20 at device 15.0 on pci0 ata5: channel #0 on atapci1 ata6: channel #1 on atapci1 atapci2: port 0xfc00-0xfc0f,0x376,0x170-0x177= ,0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 at dev ice 15.1 on pci0 ata0: channel #0 on atapci2 ata1: channel #1 on atapci2 uhci0: port 0xb400-0xb41f irq 21 at device 16.0= on pci0 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ums0: vendor 0x1241 product 0x1122, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 2, iclass 3/1 ums0: 5 buttons and Z dir. uhci1: port 0xb800-0xb81f irq 21 at device 16.1= on pci0 uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2: port 0xc000-0xc01f irq 21 at device 16.2= on pci0 uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb2: on uhci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci3: port 0xc400-0xc41f irq 21 at device 16.3= on pci0 uhci3: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb3: on uhci3 usb3: USB revision 1.0 uhub3: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered pci0: at device 16.4 (no driver attached) isab0: at device 17.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 *** pci0: at device 17.5 (no driver attached) *** acpi_button0: on acpi0 acpi_button1: on acpi0 atkbdc0: port 0x64,0x60 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] fdc0: port 0x3f7,0x3f0-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on= acpi0 fdc0: [FAST] ppc0 port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on acpi0 ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode ppbus0: on ppc0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 sio0: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0: port may not be enabled sio0 port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A sio1: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled sio1 port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on acpi0 sio1: type 16550A orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xcf7ff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=3D0x300> vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounter "TSC" frequency 1802317472 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 0.976 msec ATAPI_RESET time =3D 1770us acd0: DVDR at ata1-master UDMA33 ad4: 156334MB [317632/16/63] at ata2-master SATA1= 50 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad4s1a --=20 ** acme aka Alex D'Elia --> root.acme.com ** mail:: acme@enemy.org ** --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBXr6hC2Okd+em6LURAlhjAKCdzYUXF4fTj4R1G/aWkrkZ6W6TBACfbss3 +xtRexAifPY473bmutwnVQY= =soKX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C-- From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 2 18:38:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 406CB16A4CE for ; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 18:38:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from beer.ux6.net (beer.ux6.net [64.62.253.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 159C043D45 for ; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 18:38:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from miha@ghuug.org) Received: (qmail 86651 invoked by uid 113); 2 Oct 2004 11:38:00 -0700 Received: from 64.62.253.84 by beer.ux6.net (envelope-from , uid 112) with qmail-scanner-1.23 (clamdscan: 0.70. spamassassin: 2.64. 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Organization: Ghana Unix Users Group To: "Alex D'Elia" Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 18:38:00 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <20041002144347.GA66319@enemy.org> In-Reply-To: <20041002144347.GA66319@enemy.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410021838.00113.miha@ghuug.org> cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: amd64 on Asus K8V SE Deluxe X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: miha@ghuug.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 18:38:02 -0000 On Saturday 02 October 2004 14:43, Alex D'Elia wrote: > Hello there.... > > I got the same motherboard, and ( as I already wrote to the mailing list ) > I could not install on the ATA HD, because of the TIMEOUTS and FAILURES. > So I did get myself a new SATA which is connected to the Promise Controller > and is working happily. > Installation from amd64-BETA6 went fine, and i got the system up and > running. Did not try ATA drives there. SCSI stuff works great - Adaptec's UWSCSI320 and 15k rpm Seagate's SCSI. > > You are saying that you are working on it since a while now, > so maybe you know how to configure the sound card with the proper driver. > I got ofcourse the > > device sound > > but i dont know which should be the specific device ( ex. snd_ad1816 ) > cause i could not find in the docs the sound device for the > ADI AD1980 SoundMAX ...... > > If you got a clue, before i would go by try&error :) > would be greatly appriciated. I don't think I will be much help here, because the machine I was referring to is being used as a server, not desktop, so I did not compile sound support. You could try "brute force" ("If unsure, use brute force") approach - load every "snd_*" and watch for dmesg to see which one would work for you. Alternatively, try questions@ - maybe someone has 5.3BETA with similar sound card on another architecture (ia32?). > > bests. > alex regards, M. From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 2 18:48:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97F4D16A4CE for ; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 18:48:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lyra.enemy.org (lyra.enemy.org [62.116.11.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B65F143D2F for ; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 18:48:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from acme@s2.enemy.org) Received: (qmail 13555 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2004 18:44:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO s2.enemy.org) (62.116.11.3) by lyra.enemy.org with SMTP; 2 Oct 2004 18:44:59 -0000 Received: from s2.enemy.org (acme@localhost.enemy.org [127.0.0.1]) by s2.enemy.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i92ImifS073450; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 20:48:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from acme@s2.enemy.org) Received: (from acme@localhost) by s2.enemy.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i92ImiqM073449; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 20:48:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from acme) Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 20:48:44 +0200 From: "Alex D'Elia" To: "Mikhail P." Message-ID: <20041002184843.GB66319@enemy.org> References: <20041002144347.GA66319@enemy.org> <200410021838.00113.miha@ghuug.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="v9Ux+11Zm5mwPlX6" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200410021838.00113.miha@ghuug.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.9-STABLE Organization: Olocolors.org X-GPG-Id: E7A6E8B5 [expires: 2005-03-03] X-GPG-Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu X-GPG-Fingerprint: 5C5A 4866 9B71 D200 FDCC 8878 0B63 A477 E7A6 E8B5 cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: amd64 on Asus K8V SE Deluxe X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 18:48:45 -0000 --v9Ux+11Zm5mwPlX6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * Mikhail P. [041002 20:38]: >=20 > Did not try ATA drives there. SCSI stuff works great - Adaptec's UWSCSI32= 0 and=20 > 15k rpm Seagate's SCSI. that's good, yes. Anyway I got a SATA, is even better for me :) smaller better cable. >=20 > I don't think I will be much help here, because the machine I was referri= ng to=20 > is being used as a server, not desktop, so I did not compile sound suppor= t. > You could try "brute force" ("If unsure, use brute force") approach - loa= d=20 > every "snd_*" and watch for dmesg to see which one would work for you. > Alternatively, try questions@ - maybe someone has 5.3BETA with similar so= und=20 > card on another architecture (ia32?). I solved it :) and I just wanted to write you as I received the mail. I tried with the snd_viaxxxxx as I supposed and it works greatly. But most of all, as ever since my years of *nix ... *BSD is lovely, to recompile a kernel you never need to freak out as with Linux. and voilat: pcm0: port 0xc800-0xc8ff irq 22 at device 17.5 on pci0 pcm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] pcm0: now one last issue for me, is the Linux compatibility, but I think that must be a problem, as it seems that the emulation works only for i386 archs ! mhh !! =2E..and what about your machine ? Regards, alex --=20 ** acme aka Alex D'Elia --> root.acme.com ** mail:: acme@enemy.org ** --v9Ux+11Zm5mwPlX6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBXvgKC2Okd+em6LURApNAAKCU15+chikRrFUdONf3PMZsdxvsUgCgqA6i aDQfr9cNtmkbR2LmAid4E9g= =Ua8X -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --v9Ux+11Zm5mwPlX6-- From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 2 19:00:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CD3C16A4D3 for ; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 19:00:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from beer.ux6.net (beer.ux6.net [64.62.253.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E4D6943D49 for ; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 19:00:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from miha@ghuug.org) Received: (qmail 71455 invoked by uid 113); 2 Oct 2004 12:00:06 -0700 Received: from 64.62.253.84 by beer.ux6.net (envelope-from , uid 112) with qmail-scanner-1.23 (clamdscan: 0.70. spamassassin: 2.64. 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Organization: Ghana Unix Users Group To: "Alex D'Elia" Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 19:00:08 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <20041002144347.GA66319@enemy.org> <200410021838.00113.miha@ghuug.org> <20041002184843.GB66319@enemy.org> In-Reply-To: <20041002184843.GB66319@enemy.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410021900.08350.miha@ghuug.org> cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: amd64 on Asus K8V SE Deluxe X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: miha@ghuug.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 19:00:47 -0000 On Saturday 02 October 2004 18:48, Alex D'Elia wrote: > pcm0: port 0xc800-0xc8ff irq 22 at device 17.5 on pci0 > pcm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > pcm0: That's good. > > now one last issue for me, is the Linux compatibility, but I think > that must be a problem, as it seems that the emulation works > only for i386 archs ! mhh !! Yes, that's the issue with linux compatibility on amd64.. It seems like you'll be using computer as desktop, so I would suggest that you switch to 32bit mode - it will be still (almost) as fast as in 64bit - and install i386 distribution. That way you will have much less issues with emulation/multimedia. I'm using my amd64 server solely as dedicated SQL server, so 64bit mode is not issue for me, but only a gain in speed. > Regards, > alex regards, M. From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 2 19:10:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1C9C16A4CF for ; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 19:10:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.mcneil.com (mcneil.com [24.199.45.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7514C43D39 for ; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 19:10:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sean@mcneil.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.mcneil.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail.mcneil.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06C74F1B3C; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 12:10:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.mcneil.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (server.mcneil.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 94332-03; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 12:10:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [24.199.45.54] (mcneil.com [24.199.45.54]) by mail.mcneil.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AE92F1B18; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 12:10:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Sean McNeil To: miha@ghuug.org In-Reply-To: <200410021900.08350.miha@ghuug.org> References: <20041002144347.GA66319@enemy.org> <20041002184843.GB66319@enemy.org> <200410021900.08350.miha@ghuug.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-rlsTazHW3k2gOjPYyR/S" Message-Id: <1096744220.95617.5.camel@server> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 12:10:20 -0700 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at mcneil.com cc: Alex D'Elia cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: amd64 on Asus K8V SE Deluxe X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 19:10:26 -0000 --=-rlsTazHW3k2gOjPYyR/S Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 2004-10-02 at 12:00, Mikhail P. wrote: > On Saturday 02 October 2004 18:48, Alex D'Elia wrote: > > pcm0: port 0xc800-0xc8ff irq 22 at device 17.5 on pci0 > > pcm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > > pcm0: >=20 > That's good. >=20 > > > > now one last issue for me, is the Linux compatibility, but I think > > that must be a problem, as it seems that the emulation works > > only for i386 archs ! mhh !! >=20 > Yes, that's the issue with linux compatibility on amd64.. > It seems like you'll be using computer as desktop, so I would suggest tha= t you=20 > switch to 32bit mode - it will be still (almost) as fast as in 64bit - an= d=20 > install i386 distribution. That way you will have much less issues with=20 > emulation/multimedia. 32-bit Linux emulation would be all he could use in 32-bit mode anyway.=20 Linux32 emulation works great for me and I have no significant issues with anything running in 64-bit mode natively either. The only exception being the lack of a Java VM. This is a well-known limitation that will hopefully be addressed when Suns Java 5 comes out with a source license in a few more weeks. Cheers, Sean --=-rlsTazHW3k2gOjPYyR/S Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBXv0byQsGN30uGE4RAiKIAJsESyJWLTvZW7W7hGLw6W1YRFri7QCfT3wi cW6JIyvKC/KqGs9JJnmfhh4= =XhO2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-rlsTazHW3k2gOjPYyR/S-- From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 2 19:23:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC36716A4CE for ; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 19:23:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lyra.enemy.org (lyra.enemy.org [62.116.11.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E59C743D41 for ; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 19:23:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from acme@s2.enemy.org) Received: (qmail 13888 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2004 19:19:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO s2.enemy.org) (62.116.11.3) by lyra.enemy.org with SMTP; 2 Oct 2004 19:19:24 -0000 Received: from s2.enemy.org (acme@localhost.enemy.org [127.0.0.1]) by s2.enemy.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i92JN8cS074384; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 21:23:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from acme@s2.enemy.org) Received: (from acme@localhost) by s2.enemy.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i92JN7of074380; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 21:23:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from acme) Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 21:23:07 +0200 From: "Alex D'Elia" To: Sean McNeil Message-ID: <20041002192307.GC66319@enemy.org> References: <20041002144347.GA66319@enemy.org> <200410021838.00113.miha@ghuug.org> <20041002184843.GB66319@enemy.org> <200410021900.08350.miha@ghuug.org> <1096744220.95617.5.camel@server> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ncSAzJYg3Aa9+CRW" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1096744220.95617.5.camel@server> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.9-STABLE Organization: Olocolors.org X-GPG-Id: E7A6E8B5 [expires: 2005-03-03] X-GPG-Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu X-GPG-Fingerprint: 5C5A 4866 9B71 D200 FDCC 8878 0B63 A477 E7A6 E8B5 cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: amd64 on Asus K8V SE Deluxe X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 19:23:09 -0000 --ncSAzJYg3Aa9+CRW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * Sean McNeil [041002 21:10]: > On Sat, 2004-10-02 at 12:00, Mikhail P. wrote: > > On Saturday 02 October 2004 18:48, Alex D'Elia wrote: > > > pcm0: port 0xc800-0xc8ff irq 22 at device 17.5 on pci0 > > > pcm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > > > pcm0: > >=20 > > That's good. > >=20 > > > > > > now one last issue for me, is the Linux compatibility, but I think > > > that must be a problem, as it seems that the emulation works > > > only for i386 archs ! mhh !! > >=20 > > Yes, that's the issue with linux compatibility on amd64.. > > It seems like you'll be using computer as desktop, so I would suggest t= hat you=20 > > switch to 32bit mode - it will be still (almost) as fast as in 64bit - = and=20 > > install i386 distribution. That way you will have much less issues with= =20 > > emulation/multimedia. >=20 > 32-bit Linux emulation would be all he could use in 32-bit mode anyway.= =20 > Linux32 emulation works great for me and I have no significant issues > with anything running in 64-bit mode natively either. The only > exception being the lack of a Java VM. This is a well-known limitation > that will hopefully be addressed when Suns Java 5 comes out with a > source license in a few more weeks. exactly..... and actually this was a machine for users and also a machine for myself ( it was my first machine, which died after years of non stop running, because of an hardware problem ..... PCs :/ ....tz ! ). So i wont switch it because it would be no sense for me to get and amd64 and use it in 32bit mode. But what's that thing about Linux32 ?? where do I find it ? Guys, thanks a lot :) so you gonna get a login as soon as it's ready ! ( if you want, ofcourse ;^) Greetz alex --=20 ** acme aka Alex D'Elia --> root.acme.com ** mail:: acme@enemy.org ** --ncSAzJYg3Aa9+CRW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBXwAZC2Okd+em6LURAsKVAKCCu0q7PMz8hH3D5aiZWWuGlsnaMACfeg4N KODYRr7mhDwP3tU4OmPMmaA= =HiJP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ncSAzJYg3Aa9+CRW-- From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 2 19:23:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD25716A4CF for ; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 19:23:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDAF843D1F for ; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 19:23:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rob2@pythonemproject.com) Received: from pythonemproject.com (c-67-169-203-186.client.comcast.net[67.169.203.186]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with ESMTP id <2004100219235301300c4ioee> (Authid: europax); Sat, 2 Oct 2004 19:23:53 +0000 Message-ID: <415F00CC.1080300@pythonemproject.com> Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 12:26:04 -0700 From: Rob User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: amd-64 fast X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: rob2@pythonemproject.com List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 19:23:56 -0000 I'm compiling Mozilla right now. I can't believe how fast this box is. I have socket 939 +3800 w 2G ram. SCSI 160 drives. I lost track of what its doing, screen goes by so fast. Cool. Rob From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 2 19:35:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68BF616A4CE for ; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 19:35:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ares.wolfpond.org (ns1.wolfpond.org [62.212.96.219]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 590AD43D1F for ; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 19:35:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ftigeot@wolfpond.org) Received: from aoi.wolfpond.org (aoi.wolfpond.org [IPv6:2001:7a8:24db:1:20c:76ff:feb4:27e1]) by ares.wolfpond.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i92JZSqx011744; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 21:35:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ftigeot@aoi.wolfpond.org) Received: from aoi.wolfpond.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aoi.wolfpond.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i92JZVIU025109; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 21:35:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ftigeot@aoi.wolfpond.org) Received: (from ftigeot@localhost) by aoi.wolfpond.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id i92JZUlw025108; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 21:35:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ftigeot) Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 21:35:30 +0200 From: Francois Tigeot To: "Alex D'Elia" Message-ID: <20041002193530.GA765@aoi.wolfpond.org> References: <20041002144347.GA66319@enemy.org> <200410021838.00113.miha@ghuug.org> <20041002184843.GB66319@enemy.org> <200410021900.08350.miha@ghuug.org> <1096744220.95617.5.camel@server> <20041002192307.GC66319@enemy.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041002192307.GC66319@enemy.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: amd64 on Asus K8V SE Deluxe X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 19:35:34 -0000 On Sat, Oct 02, 2004 at 09:23:07PM +0200, Alex D'Elia wrote: > * Sean McNeil [041002 21:10]: > > > On Sat, 2004-10-02 at 12:00, Mikhail P. wrote: > > > On Saturday 02 October 2004 18:48, Alex D'Elia wrote: > > > > > > Yes, that's the issue with linux compatibility on amd64.. > > > It seems like you'll be using computer as desktop, so I would suggest that you > > > switch to 32bit mode - it will be still (almost) as fast as in 64bit - and > > > install i386 distribution. That way you will have much less issues with > > > emulation/multimedia. > > > > 32-bit Linux emulation would be all he could use in 32-bit mode anyway. > > Linux32 emulation works great for me and I have no significant issues > > with anything running in 64-bit mode natively either. The only > > exception being the lack of a Java VM. This is a well-known limitation > > that will hopefully be addressed when Suns Java 5 comes out with a > > source license in a few more weeks. > > exactly..... and actually this was a machine for users and also a machine > for myself ( it was my first machine, which died after years of non stop > running, because of an hardware problem ..... PCs :/ ....tz ! ). > So i wont switch it because it would be no sense for me to get and > amd64 and use it in 32bit mode. > > But what's that thing about Linux32 ?? > where do I find it ? This page has detailled instructions on how to enable i386 Linux emulation: http://people.freebsd.org/~tjr/linux32.html The instructions are for Slackware but it is possible to use one of the linux_base ports with some hacking. I'm using java/linux-sun-jdk14 without any problem. -- Francois Tigeot From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 2 19:37:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7015716A4CE for ; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 19:37:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.mcneil.com (mcneil.com [24.199.45.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34A9643D2F for ; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 19:37:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sean@mcneil.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.mcneil.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail.mcneil.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECF5DF1B2F; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 12:37:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.mcneil.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (server.mcneil.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 93475-06; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 12:37:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [24.199.45.54] (mcneil.com [24.199.45.54]) by mail.mcneil.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3883F1AC4; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 12:37:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Sean McNeil To: Alex D'Elia In-Reply-To: <20041002192307.GC66319@enemy.org> References: <20041002144347.GA66319@enemy.org> <20041002184843.GB66319@enemy.org><1096744220.95617.5.camel@server> <20041002192307.GC66319@enemy.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-6eUjqFeNu38v2cU65maZ" Message-Id: <1096745844.95733.7.camel@server> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 12:37:24 -0700 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at mcneil.com cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: amd64 on Asus K8V SE Deluxe X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 19:37:26 -0000 --=-6eUjqFeNu38v2cU65maZ Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 2004-10-02 at 12:23, Alex D'Elia wrote: > * Sean McNeil [041002 21:10]: >=20 > > On Sat, 2004-10-02 at 12:00, Mikhail P. wrote: > > > On Saturday 02 October 2004 18:48, Alex D'Elia wrote: > > > > pcm0: port 0xc800-0xc8ff irq 22 at device 17.5 on pci0 > > > > pcm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > > > > pcm0: > > >=20 > > > That's good. > > >=20 > > > > > > > > now one last issue for me, is the Linux compatibility, but I think > > > > that must be a problem, as it seems that the emulation works > > > > only for i386 archs ! mhh !! > > >=20 > > > Yes, that's the issue with linux compatibility on amd64.. > > > It seems like you'll be using computer as desktop, so I would suggest= that you=20 > > > switch to 32bit mode - it will be still (almost) as fast as in 64bit = - and=20 > > > install i386 distribution. That way you will have much less issues wi= th=20 > > > emulation/multimedia. > >=20 > > 32-bit Linux emulation would be all he could use in 32-bit mode anyway.= =20 > > Linux32 emulation works great for me and I have no significant issues > > with anything running in 64-bit mode natively either. The only > > exception being the lack of a Java VM. This is a well-known limitation > > that will hopefully be addressed when Suns Java 5 comes out with a > > source license in a few more weeks. >=20 > exactly..... and actually this was a machine for users and also a machine > for myself ( it was my first machine, which died after years of non stop > running, because of an hardware problem ..... PCs :/ ....tz ! ). > So i wont switch it because it would be no sense for me to get and > amd64 and use it in 32bit mode. >=20 > But what's that thing about Linux32 ?? > where do I find it ? If you look in the freebsd-amd64 mailing list archive you will see all kinds of discussion about it. My kernel is built with 32-bit binary compatibility by adding: options COMPAT_IA32 # Compatible with i386 binaries and Linux 32-bit with options COMPAT_LINUX32 options LINPROCFS I do not think these are setup as loadable modules yet, but I might be mistaken. Loadable modules work great now too, so there is no reason they couldn't be built as modules I should think. The reason it is called Linux32 compat is that there are aspirations for eventually adding Linux64 compat. I think someone fixed the ports for linux_base so you should be able to install that too. > Guys, thanks a lot :) so you gonna get a login as soon as it's ready ! > ( if you want, ofcourse ;^) Thanks for the offer, but I have my AMD64 workstation and it is running everything in 64bit mode plus Linux32 emulation ;) Eagerly awaiting a native JVM... Cheers, Sean --=-6eUjqFeNu38v2cU65maZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBXwN0yQsGN30uGE4RAhN2AJ43QaEatzlrqMJDqnGfEZlBYHsVwwCg7OrK TZfOk/qrAfh4kYGeGQQwSh8= =hDTr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-6eUjqFeNu38v2cU65maZ-- From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 2 20:29:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79EC816A4CE for ; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 20:29:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lyra.enemy.org (lyra.enemy.org [62.116.11.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 998CB43D39 for ; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 20:29:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from acme@s2.enemy.org) Received: (qmail 14719 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2004 20:25:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO s2.enemy.org) (62.116.11.3) by lyra.enemy.org with SMTP; 2 Oct 2004 20:25:36 -0000 Received: from s2.enemy.org (acme@localhost.enemy.org [127.0.0.1]) by s2.enemy.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i92KTLHr076190; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 22:29:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from acme@s2.enemy.org) Received: (from acme@localhost) by s2.enemy.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i92KTGJF076189; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 22:29:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from acme) Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 22:29:16 +0200 From: "Alex D'Elia" To: Sean McNeil Message-ID: <20041002202916.GD66319@enemy.org> References: <20041002144347.GA66319@enemy.org> <200410021838.00113.miha@ghuug.org> <20041002184843.GB66319@enemy.org> <200410021900.08350.miha@ghuug.org> <1096744220.95617.5.camel@server> <20041002192307.GC66319@enemy.org> <1096745844.95733.7.camel@server> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Hf61M2y+wYpnELGG" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1096745844.95733.7.camel@server> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.9-STABLE Organization: Olocolors.org X-GPG-Id: E7A6E8B5 [expires: 2005-03-03] X-GPG-Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu X-GPG-Fingerprint: 5C5A 4866 9B71 D200 FDCC 8878 0B63 A477 E7A6 E8B5 cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: amd64 on Asus K8V SE Deluxe X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 20:29:22 -0000 --Hf61M2y+wYpnELGG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * Sean McNeil [041002 21:37]: > > But what's that thing about Linux32 ?? > > where do I find it ? >=20 > If you look in the freebsd-amd64 mailing list archive you will see all > kinds of discussion about it. My kernel is built with 32-bit binary > compatibility by adding: >=20 > options COMPAT_IA32 # Compatible with i386 binaries >=20 > and Linux 32-bit with >=20 > options COMPAT_LINUX32 > options LINPROCFS >=20 > I do not think these are setup as loadable modules yet, but I might be > mistaken. Loadable modules work great now too, so there is no reason > they couldn't be built as modules I should think. >=20 > The reason it is called Linux32 compat is that there are aspirations for > eventually adding Linux64 compat. >=20 > I think someone fixed the ports for linux_base so you should be able to > install that too. >=20 > > Guys, thanks a lot :) so you gonna get a login as soon as it's ready ! > > ( if you want, ofcourse ;^) >=20 > Thanks for the offer, but I have my AMD64 workstation and it is running > everything in 64bit mode plus Linux32 emulation ;) Eagerly awaiting a > native JVM... :) as you wish... I think is fine to share ! But thanks very much I am doing that already, and also I take care of the link > http://people.freebsd.org/~tjr/linux32.html > > I'm using java/linux-sun-jdk14 without any problem. > > -- > Francois Tigeot So we will see... I will let you know. thanks again, later alex --=20 ** acme aka Alex D'Elia --> root.acme.com ** mail:: acme@enemy.org ** --Hf61M2y+wYpnELGG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBXw+aC2Okd+em6LURAgfvAJ41ib69WYkR0Ry81cHppQ79nE6ZewCaAwZb Y9zY0LcBn5nuYZ9db2hiiAs= =QPi9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Hf61M2y+wYpnELGG-- From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 2 20:43:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CEF916A4CE for ; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 20:43:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.mcneil.com (mcneil.com [24.199.45.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F1C943D31 for ; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 20:43:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sean@mcneil.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.mcneil.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail.mcneil.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1F29F1B3A; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 13:43:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.mcneil.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (server.mcneil.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 84909-01; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 13:43:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [24.199.45.54] (mcneil.com [24.199.45.54]) by mail.mcneil.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF767F1AC4; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 13:43:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Sean McNeil To: Alex D'Elia In-Reply-To: <20041002202916.GD66319@enemy.org> References: <20041002144347.GA66319@enemy.org> <20041002184843.GB66319@enemy.org><1096744220.95617.5.camel@server> <20041002192307.GC66319@enemy.org> <1096745844.95733.7.camel@server> <20041002202916.GD66319@enemy.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-20k3MrxugYv/8/yJVsV/" Message-Id: <1096749787.38622.6.camel@server> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 13:43:07 -0700 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at mcneil.com cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: amd64 on Asus K8V SE Deluxe X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 20:43:09 -0000 --=-20k3MrxugYv/8/yJVsV/ Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 2004-10-02 at 13:29, Alex D'Elia wrote: > But thanks very much I am doing that already, and also > I take care of the link >=20 > > http://people.freebsd.org/~tjr/linux32.html > > > > I'm using java/linux-sun-jdk14 without any problem. > > > > -- > > Francois Tigeot Forgot to mention... I installed linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.05 as well, but I had to make a small change to my setup. First, I had to install as make ONLY_FOR_ARCHS=3D"i386 amd64" install and then with the installed linux_base from ports it didn't create the following file with contents: /compat/linux/etc/ld.so.conf /usr/X11R6/lib Adding that allowed me to do more with java. Cheers, Sean --=-20k3MrxugYv/8/yJVsV/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBXxLbyQsGN30uGE4RAsGXAJ9WMgX3if6IpOSk49PlSCs4EIfO1wCg4ne0 DUCNdxrr6d95mRi5EBB6se0= =4L8c -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-20k3MrxugYv/8/yJVsV/--