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Subject: Re: userland firmware loader? 
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In message: <1420.1089448716@critter.freebsd.dk>
            "Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk@phk.freebsd.dk> writes:
: In message <20040709232355.GB1626@green.homeunix.org>, Brian Fundakowski Feldma
: n writes:
: 
: >I'm writing a driver that uses a 100KB firmware file and could need to
: >read it again, after initialization, to reset the device (or to load
: >more).  Since this device is primarily found in CardBus form, I think
: >it makes a lot of sense to be able to get the firmware file at any time
: >but without specific user intervention.
: >
: >Is this something devd should be doing? 
: 
: I would advocate a generic interface for retrieving firmware from userland.

I'd advocate motherhood and apple pie too. :-)

Warner