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-------- MANTEX NEWSLETTER --------
Number 93 - June 2004 - ISSN 1470-1863
Slang - Art - Design - Literature
0----- 'Dictionary of Slang and Unconventional English'
For unconventional, read 'smu-t', 'swe-aring',
'fi-lth', and 'obs-cenity'. This is a dictionary
originally composed in an era when such terms
were not supposed to officially exist.
Fortunately, Eric Partridge ignored this limitation
and produced a number of books on 'unconventional'
English which are still of interest today.
This is a cut-down version of his classic. It
includes only slang which originated in the last
hundred years.
I put this book to the test only tonight to settle
a dinner table argument on 'geek' - and sure enough
there was the answer. Full review and details at -
http://www.mantex.co.uk/reviews/part-2.htm
0----- Pub Quiz - Question #1
What is a glaive?
0----- Weird facts #1
Attila the Hun bled to death from a nosebleed -
on his wedding night. Symbolic? Ironic?
0----- Lesley Hall's "Quirky Stuff"
Collection of links to bizarre, curious, and
hilariously funny web sites - from Theremin
World and urban legends to the Journal of
Mundane Behaviour, the Gallery of Misused
Quotation Marks and the Apostrophe Protection
Society. Great fun at -
http://homepages.primex.co.uk/~lesleyah/webdoc10.htm
0----- Pub Quiz - Question #2
What type of fruit is a jargonelle?
0----- Weird Facts #2
Donald Duck comics were once banned in Finland -
because he doesn't wear trousers. It's true.
0----- 'Writing at University' - new edition
The newly expanded second edition of this
best-seller includes sections on report
writing, electronic writing, learning
journals, and using the Internet.
See full review at -
http://www.mantex.co.uk/reviews/creme.htm
0----- Pub Quiz - Question #3
Who wrote 'The Beast in the Jungle'?
0----- Weird Facts #3
Our eyes are always the same size from birth.
0----- 'Windows XP Hacks' - new book
XP was the first major re-vamp of the Windows
operating system since Windows 95, Most people
are so relieved that it's more stable that they
don't bother looking beneath the desktop to see
what's possible.
In fact you can customise and adjust the operating
system to an astonishing extent, using tools which
are part of XP itself, or are freely available on the Net.
All of these procedures are explained in Preston
Gralla's new book, which talks you through the
procedures in very simple language.
There's something here for everybody - from changing
your desktop themes and colours, to editing the
Registry to boost performance.
It's all presented in O'Rielly's impeccable format,
with full details of tips, workarounds, and warnings,
plus listings of sites for free downloads .
Did you know that when you shut down Outlook Express
it doesn't really shut down, but continues running
in the background. Invaluable advice. Full details
and review at -
http://www.mantex.co.uk/reviews/gralla.htm
0----- Pub Quiz - Question #4
Who designed the Pompidou Centre in Paris?
0----- Weird Facts #4
Leonardo da Vinci invented scissors. Sharp guy.
0----- The Russian Novel - guidance notes
These are 'notes in progress' - Version 1.0 of
Russian Literature - prose fiction of the nineteenth
and twentieth century. The notes run from Pushkin and
'Eugene Onegin' to Solzhenitsyn's 'Lenin in Zurich'
The first part available is the nineteenth century
novel: Pushkin, Lermontov, Gogol, Dostoyevski, Tolstoy,
and Turgenev. More will follow. Details at -
http://www.mantex.co.uk/ou/aa810/rus-19c.htm
0----- Pub Quiz - Question #5
Which river flows through Budapest?
0----- Weird Facts #5
Australia is the only country that is also a continent.
0----- 'Internet Art' - new book
The Internet is a brand new medium of communication,
and it now has experimental artists exploring the new
forms of expression it makes possible.
These include HTML galleries, interactive art, video
games, and multi-media projects, The possibilities
are quite bewildering.
All of them are explored in Rachel Greene's new book
from the Thames and Hudson cheap-and-cheerful paperback
World of Art series.
She's very well informed on recent developments, and
although you'll have to cope with a pretentious Art
School mode of expression, the book is profusely
illustrated to give you an idea of what's possible
in digital visual arts. Full review at -
http://www.mantex.co.uk/reviews/greene.htm
0----- Pub Quiz - Question #6
Which leaves taste of aniseed?
0----- Weird Facts #6
Marilyn Monroe had six toes on one foot.
0----- 'Web Design: Start Here' - new book
Ilex books have produced a very stylish series
of books on web matters and graphic design. This
is an overview of what's required for a good Web site.
You don't have to follow every suggestion. It spells
out the basics - from page layout to navigation and
graphic manipulation, to special effects such as
graphic decoration and animated effects.
You might need further detailed guidance on any
topic, but it's a good coverage of what's required
in Web design. And it's another very stylish
production from Ilex. Full details and review at -
http://www.mantex.co.uk/reviews/nettle.htm
0----- Pub Quiz Question #7
Which two countries are separated by the Skagerrack?
0----- Weird Facts #7
The word 'samba' means 'to rub navels together'.
0----- 'Bloomsbury Rooms' - new book
I spotted a superb book on Bloomsbury art the
other day. It covers all the obvious topics -
the paintings of Vanessa Bell, Duncan Grant,
and Roger Fry - but also their domestic interiors,
graphic designs, fabrics, and book jackets.
There are lots of paintings and photographs I
have never seen before, and it's a very handsomely
produced work. A must-see for any Bloomsbury fans.
Details and links on our Bloomsbury Group page:
http://www.mantex.co.uk/ou/a319/bloom-01.htm
0----- Feedback + Corrections
Several people emailed to suggest that the
largest organ in the human body is not the
liver - but the skin. And they're right!
Thanks in particular to Simon Gill in the
Czech Republic for suggesting a reliable
source for confirmation.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/humanbody/
And to Elsa Luciano Feal in Puerto Rico for this site:
http://kidshealth.org/kid/body/skin_SW.html
0----- Quotable quotes -
"The pen is mightier than the sword -
and considerably easier to write with."
Marty Feldman.
0----- PUB QUIZ - ANSWERS
What is a glaive?
ANSWER: A sword
What type of fruit is a jargonelle?
ANSWER: A pear
Who wrote 'The Beast in the Jungle'?
ANSWER: Henry James
Who designed the Pompidou Centre in Paris?
ANSWER: Richard Rogers and Renzo Piano
Which river flows through Budapest?
ANSWER: The Danube
Which leaves taste of aniseed?
ANSWER: Fennel
Which two countries are separated by the Skagerrack?
ANSWER: Denmark and Norway
0----- COMING SOON
'Spidering Hacks' - new book
'Web Animation: Start Here' - new book
'Digital Art' - new book
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What are the best sites for searching for cheap hosting?
I have tried http://www.webhostingratings.com/ and found a few companies
for around 50 cents to $3 per month.
Or share your suggestions on inexpensive PHP hosting, preferably with SSH
access, multiple email accounts and possibility of multiple domains.
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On Thu, 2004-06-10 at 00:30, Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
> What are the best sites for searching for cheap hosting?
>
> I have tried http://www.webhostingratings.com/ and found a few companies
> for around 50 cents to $3 per month.
>
> Or share your suggestions on inexpensive PHP hosting, preferably with SSH
> access, multiple email accounts and possibility of multiple domains.
>
Asking on http://www.webhostingtalk.com/ is always a good idea.
Also, I personally recommend that you look at
http://www.valcatohosting.com/ (since I work for them).
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Today is the second Thursday of the month.
That means a bunch of people interested in BSD (and other things)
meet tonight, at 6pm, at the Colonnade, 280 Metcalfe at Gilmour St.
While not compulsory, most of us will be having pizza and beer. If
you're looking for us, ask the staff for the computer group.
see you then
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Clearly a question appropriate for this geek forum:
I'm out to buy _Buffy the Vampire Slayer_ (the TV series that is) on
DVD. Should I get the UK or US sets?
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On Thu, 10 Jun 2004, Christian Weisgerber wrote:
> Clearly a question appropriate for this geek forum:
>
> I'm out to buy _Buffy the Vampire Slayer_ (the TV series that is) on
> DVD. Should I get the UK or US sets?
I've only the US version, but a little googling yields this:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=3d208df9%40news.broadpark.no&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fq%3DDVD%2BUK%2Bor%2BUS%2Bversion%2Bgroup:alt.tv.buffy-v-slayer%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26selm%3D3d208df9%2540news.broadpark.no%26rnum%3D1
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=DVD+R1+or+R2+version+group:alt.tv.buffy-v-slayer&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=7bce31ab.0307100705.16e1fa0c%40posting.google.com&rnum=1
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On Thu, 10 Jun 2004, Will Andrews wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 10, 2004 at 09:40:32PM -0500, Mark Linimon wrote:
> > My recommendation: go vertical. The cheapest way it to go find
> > one of those stainless steel open-wire shelf units like they use
> > in restaurant kitchens. Container Store has real nice ones but
> > other places probably have them cheaper (I got mine on sale).
> >
> > It's the only way I can fit into an 1100 ft**2 house.
>
> I got a 24U rack from a salvage shop for $10. Bought three
> shelves for the non-RM machines for $80 or so. Works great. :)
Now that's what I'd love. We got dozen's of 19" racks at work,
but they're not a pen or pencil. You try and take one home,
someone will notice :(
--
Dan Eischen
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You'll have to be quick, bidding lasts until 17:00 CEST today.
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> You'll have to be quick, bidding lasts until 17:00 CEST today.
>
>http://bva-auctions.com/auction/auction/categories.asp?act=subcat&did=37&cid=13&scid=125
>
> Lots of Ultra-5, mostly incomplete but a few only missing the monitor. At
> 20 euro's a piece (ex BTW) IMHO it's a bargain.
Prices go up to 40 Euro for the faster machines with more memory
(400MHz, 256MB RAM), and there are not many left. Get them while
they're hot!
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> I'm out to buy _Buffy the Vampire Slayer_ (the TV series that is) on
> DVD. Should I get the UK or US sets?
I would suggest "neither". However, of course, it's technically illegal for
you to buy DVDs licensed for a region in which you do not reside. That's the
point of putting regions on DVDs.
So if you want to sleep easily at night and don't want your door kicking in
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On Fri, Jun 11, 2004 at 12:42:00AM -0400, Daniel Eischen wrote:
> > I got a 24U rack from a salvage shop for $10. Bought three
> > shelves for the non-RM machines for $80 or so. Works great. :)
>
> Now that's what I'd love. We got dozen's of 19" racks at work,
> but they're not a pen or pencil. You try and take one home,
> someone will notice :(
Oh, come now, that's not the enterprising spirit we want here. That sounds
like defeatism! Have you *tried* stealing one of the racks? I bet if you
went up to your manager and said "I'm going to steal one of the racks after
work tonight" he wouldn't believe you. If he does, convince him he should
have one too, and get him to help you take two racks out of the building
that night.
If somebody should notice, make up a story about some shifty-looking bikers
hanging around near the back door the previous day. If you get caught, tell
them it was all your boss' idea, and you were told if you didn't help him
steal a rack, he was going to have you fired. And that he's been sexually
harrassing you.
End result - shiny rack in your home.
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> At 9:42 AM +0200 2004-06-11, Stijn Hoop wrote:
>
> > You'll have to be quick, bidding lasts until 17:00 CEST today.
> >
> >http://bva-auctions.com/auction/auction/categories.asp?act=subcat&di
> >d=37&cid=13&scid=125
> >
> > Lots of Ultra-5, mostly incomplete but a few only missing the
> > monitor. At 20 euro's a piece (ex BTW) IMHO it's a bargain.
>
> Prices go up to 40 Euro for the faster machines with more memory
>
> (400MHz, 256MB RAM), and there are not many left. Get them while
> they're hot!
>
Somewhat off topic.
I almost bought a Sun workstation a a computer show but could not see
if a regular (PC) monitor would plug in to a Sun. They were selling Sun
monitors at the table but they were more than I was willing to spend on
'experimental' computer equipment.
So my question is: will PC peripherals attach to a Sun box?
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At 10:34 AM +0100 2004-06-11, Paul Robinson wrote:
> I would suggest "neither". However, of course, it's technically illegal for
> you to buy DVDs licensed for a region in which you do not reside. That's the
> point of putting regions on DVDs.
No, it's not illegal at all. It's perfectly legal to buy Region
One DVDs and have them shipped to Europe (or elsewhere), and it's
legal to buy Region Two DVDs and have them shipped to the US (or
elsewhere). However, they have tighter controls on where you can buy
DVD players that can handle specific region encoding.
This means that if you're a US citizen and you bring your Region
One DVD player with you when you move to Europe, you have no problem
buying DVDs via Amazon.com (or wherever), having them shipped to
Europe, and paying out the wazoo in terms of taxes and import duties.
But you can still buy them and watch them on your Region One DVD
player (NTSC output to most TVs over here works just fine).
Been there, done that, many, many times. I've got a whole Amazon
wish list that is almost nothing but DVDs, and my family dutifully
helps me get what I put up there, since they otherwise have
absolutely no idea what to get me for my birthday or Christmas.
There are even whole magazines published in the UK (and
presumably elsewhere) that are devoted to reviewing Region One DVDs
as soon as possible, so that their readers can contact one of the
advertisers to buy the desired product.
Same with buying Region Two DVDs at Amazon.co.uk (or wherever)
and shipping them to the US.
Typically, the Region One DVDs that are released are better than
the equivalent DVDs released in any other region. They have better
encoding, more special features, etc....
In my experience, the only time where this rule has fallen down
has been when the movie in question is not American (e.g., the Harry
Potter films). Then they tend to make the best DVDs for their local
market (wherever that is), and the Region One DVDs tend to suffer.
As far as TV programs are concerned, I don't know that there is
any significant difference.
However, from a technical perspective, I can tell you that it's
not too hard to buy DVD players over here that can be configured or
easily modified to play Region One DVDs, and include features to
automatically convert NTSC output to PAL. You can also buy TVs over
here that can take NTSC input and convert that to PAL for display.
But finding equipment in the US that can play non-Region One DVDs
is much, much harder. Same for finding equipment in the US that can
deal with PAL.
--
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safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
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At 6:00 AM -0400 2004-06-11, Paul Murphy wrote:
> I almost bought a Sun workstation a a computer show but could not see
> if a regular (PC) monitor would plug in to a Sun. They were selling Sun
> monitors at the table but they were more than I was willing to spend on
> 'experimental' computer equipment.
>
> So my question is: will PC peripherals attach to a Sun box?
Depends on the box. For UltraSPARC 5s, the answer is most
definitely yes -- Sun built them with mostly standard PC components,
including VGA output, PCI card slots, IDE hard drives & CD-ROM
drives, DIMM slots, PS/2 keyboard & mouse connectors, etc.... About
the only non-PC standard component was the CPU.
For older Suns, the answer is probably no. For
bigger/faster/newer UltraSPARC boxes, the answer is maybe.
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On Fri, 11 Jun 2004, Paul Robinson wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 11, 2004 at 12:42:00AM -0400, Daniel Eischen wrote:
>
> > > I got a 24U rack from a salvage shop for $10. Bought three
> > > shelves for the non-RM machines for $80 or so. Works great. :)
> >
> > Now that's what I'd love. We got dozen's of 19" racks at work,
> > but they're not a pen or pencil. You try and take one home,
> > someone will notice :(
>
> Oh, come now, that's not the enterprising spirit we want here. That sounds
> like defeatism! Have you *tried* stealing one of the racks? I bet if you
> went up to your manager and said "I'm going to steal one of the racks after
> work tonight" he wouldn't believe you. If he does, convince him he should
> have one too, and get him to help you take two racks out of the building
> that night.
>
> If somebody should notice, make up a story about some shifty-looking bikers
> hanging around near the back door the previous day. If you get caught, tell
> them it was all your boss' idea, and you were told if you didn't help him
> steal a rack, he was going to have you fired. And that he's been sexually
> harrassing you.
It's like a prison where I work (defense contractor). There are
guards, guns, & security gates, oh my. The sexual harrassment
claim has the best chance of working, though ;-)
> End result - shiny rack in your home.
Or a guard's night stick shoved up my bum.
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On Fri, 11 Jun 2004, Brad Knowles wrote:
> At 6:00 AM -0400 2004-06-11, Paul Murphy wrote:
>
> > I almost bought a Sun workstation a a computer show but could not see
> > if a regular (PC) monitor would plug in to a Sun. They were selling Sun
> > monitors at the table but they were more than I was willing to spend on
> > 'experimental' computer equipment.
> >
> > So my question is: will PC peripherals attach to a Sun box?
>
> Depends on the box. For UltraSPARC 5s, the answer is most
> definitely yes -- Sun built them with mostly standard PC components,
> including VGA output, PCI card slots, IDE hard drives & CD-ROM
> drives, DIMM slots, PS/2 keyboard & mouse connectors, etc.... About
> the only non-PC standard component was the CPU.
You can get adapters that convert from vga to sun video, and
from sun keyboard/mouse to PS/2 keyboard mouse. Raritan
(www.raritan.com) makes them, and can probably get cheaper
alternatives elsewhere.
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On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 06:31:39 -0400 (EDT)
Daniel Eischen <eischen@vigrid.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Jun 2004, Brad Knowles wrote:
>
> > At 6:00 AM -0400 2004-06-11, Paul Murphy wrote:
> >
> > > I almost bought a Sun workstation a a computer show but could
> > > not see
> > > if a regular (PC) monitor would plug in to a Sun. They were
> > > selling Sun monitors at the table but they were more than I was
> > > willing to spend on'experimental' computer equipment.
> > >
> > > So my question is: will PC peripherals attach to a Sun box?
> >
> > Depends on the box. For UltraSPARC 5s, the answer is most
> > definitely yes -- Sun built them with mostly standard PC components,
> > including VGA output, PCI card slots, IDE hard drives & CD-ROM
> > drives, DIMM slots, PS/2 keyboard & mouse connectors, etc.... About
> > the only non-PC standard component was the CPU.
>
> You can get adapters that convert from vga to sun video, and
> from sun keyboard/mouse to PS/2 keyboard mouse. Raritan
> (www.raritan.com) makes them, and can probably get cheaper
> alternatives elsewhere.
>
>
>
(Note: Sylpheed crashed when I sent my last reply so if this a
duplicate I beg your pardon)
I am glad now that I thought twice about buying the Sun box. I was
definitely and older (used) machine. With these comments in mind I will
be seriously temped to buy one at the next Compufest just for the fun of
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> > I'm out to buy _Buffy the Vampire Slayer_ (the TV series that is) on
> > DVD. Should I get the UK or US sets?
>
> I would suggest "neither".
Could you expand on that?
I thought those were the basic choices, but I guess there are also
other region editions than R1 and R2 and apparently multiple editions
at least within R2.
> However, of course, it's technically illegal for you to buy DVDs
> licensed for a region in which you do not reside.
This is far from certain and probably differs by country. Anyway,
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or
> you to buy DVDs licensed for a region in which you do not reside.
Only in the MPAA's wet dreams. In fact, the region coding system
itself is probably illegal in most western countries.
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Brad Knowles said on Jun 11, 2004 at 12:08:25:
> At 10:34 AM +0100 2004-06-11, Paul Robinson wrote:
>
> > I would suggest "neither". However, of course, it's technically illegal for
> > you to buy DVDs licensed for a region in which you do not reside. That's the
> > point of putting regions on DVDs.
>
> No, it's not illegal at all. It's perfectly legal to buy Region
> One DVDs and have them shipped to Europe (or elsewhere),
When I lived in Paris (around two years ago), the Virgin Megastore
there -- hardly an underground operation -- had an entire section of
Region 1 DVDs. I bought a couple myself, and one of them had dire
warnings about the alleged illegality of selling it outside the US and
Canada, which didn't seem to bother the store.
Rahul
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Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
> Paul Robinson <paul@iconoplex.co.uk> writes:
>> I would suggest "neither". However, of course, it's technically illegal for
>> you to buy DVDs licensed for a region in which you do not reside.
>
> Only in the MPAA's wet dreams. In fact, the region coding system
> itself is probably illegal in most western countries.
>
It certainly is in New Zealand.
http://web.archive.org/web/20000303075444/www.opendvd.org/regioncode.html
(Section headed "Market differentiation")
Mark
> DES
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Christian Weisgerber wrote:
> Paul Robinson <paul@iconoplex.co.uk> wrote:
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>> > I'm out to buy _Buffy the Vampire Slayer_ (the TV series that is) on
>> > DVD. Should I get the UK or US sets?
>>
>> I would suggest "neither".
>
> Could you expand on that?
I think he was passing comment on the TV series itself :-)
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You know, Johnny Cash came up with the solution to this particular problem a
long time ago.
By the way, that was hilarious!
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On Fri, Jun 11, 2004 at 12:42:00AM -0400, Daniel Eischen wrote:
> > I got a 24U rack from a salvage shop for $10. Bought three
> > shelves for the non-RM machines for $80 or so. Works great. :)
>
> Now that's what I'd love. We got dozen's of 19" racks at work,
> but they're not a pen or pencil. You try and take one home,
> someone will notice :(
Oh, come now, that's not the enterprising spirit we want here. That sounds
like defeatism! Have you *tried* stealing one of the racks? I bet if you
went up to your manager and said "I'm going to steal one of the racks after
work tonight" he wouldn't believe you. If he does, convince him he should
have one too, and get him to help you take two racks out of the building
that night.
If somebody should notice, make up a story about some shifty-looking bikers
hanging around near the back door the previous day. If you get caught, tell
them it was all your boss' idea, and you were told if you didn't help him
steal a rack, he was going to have you fired. And that he's been sexually
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End result - shiny rack in your home.
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When I used to look at the boxes all my games came in, there were always a
bunch of company names on it. When I had an Amiga, Psygnosis was known for
always putting out good games. However, the games often started: 'Psygnosis
presents... a XYZ game...'
Today I read that Valve, Inc. is hoping to deliver Half Life 2 to game
publisher Vivendi Universal Games.
How does the relationship work between writers and publishers of software?
If, for example, Psygnosis was known for high-quality graphics intensive
games, yet they were only the publishers, how were they able to find such a
continual supply of games that met their standards?
What
jm
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> How does the relationship work between writers and publishers of software?
Badly.
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On Fri, Jun 11, 2004 at 10:06:58PM +0100, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
> How does the relationship work between writers and publishers of software?
The same way that the relationship between publishing houses and writers
works. O'Reilly is not in the business of chick-lit, and Mills & Boon have
not yet publised a comprehensive guide on the internals of BIND and DNS.
Likewise, a small independent record label is unlikely to sign Britney
Spears because they wouldn't know how to market her music. EMI is unlikely
to sign a bunch of kids who play their local venues for much the same reason
- they might think the music is marketable, but they don't know how to
market that particular artist. Some companies specialise in rock, others in
classical.
It is no different with games publishers and their respective software
houses. Some publishers feel happier with some titles. This should not come
as a suprise to anyone at all.
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On Sat, Jun 12, 2004 at 12:14:18AM +0200, Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav wrote:
> > How does the relationship work between writers and publishers of software?
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> Badly.
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Paul Robinson <paul@iconoplex.co.uk> writes:
> On Sat, Jun 12, 2004 at 12:14:18AM +0200, Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav wrote:
> > > How does the relationship work between writers and publishers of soft=
ware?
> > Badly.
> That's an incredibly flippant answer, and suggests you've never worked wi=
th
> a software publisher, or if you have, you've been deliberately obstructive
> and ignorant in the context of that relationship.
Jonathon was speaking specifically of the game industry, which is
notoriously f***ed up.
DES
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On Sat, Jun 12, 2004 at 07:00:54PM +0200, Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav wrote:
> Jonathon was speaking specifically of the game industry, which is
> notoriously f***ed up.
I stand by my comments - most publishers are genuine and will deal with
software companies legitimately and the process normally works well.
For background, I work for an ERDF-backed project that in the past has
assisted several dozen software companies and publishers, specifically in
the games sector, get together and work together with few hitches.
Still, selling software obviously isn't your bag, and that's your choice.
Without the "notoriously f***ed up" games industry though, the whole of the
IT industry would probably be a lot deader than it is.
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