From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 04:05:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7566D16A4CE for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2004 04:05:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from msr4.hinet.net (msr4.hinet.net [168.95.4.104]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD54043D41 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2004 04:05:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from y2kbug@ms25.hinet.net) Received: from sonic (61-227-219-131.dynamic.hinet.net [61.227.219.131]) by msr4.hinet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA14397 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2004 12:05:35 +0800 (CST) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 11:55:57 -0400 From: Robert Storey To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20040720115557.03462af4.y2kbug@ms25.hinet.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.11 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-debian-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Apple's contribution to FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 04:05:37 -0000 Dear All, I made the following post to freebsd-questions, but somebody wrote back and suggested I should post this to chat@. So that's what I'm doing now - forive this "double posting". The following is the whole post, verbatim.... --------------------------------------------------------- First off, apologies for this off-topic post, but I think this is the only place I'm likely to get an intelligent (and well-informed) answer to my question. I tried searching the web, but found a confusing and contradictory bunch of poorly-informed opinions, which wasn't helpful. I'm writing a news article about Apple's contribution to open source. In particular, I'm interested in finding out the following: 1) How much of FreeBSD did Apple actually use in OSX? If I'm not mistaken, the Darwin kernel is not related to FreeBSD in any way (or is that wrong?). Basically, what exactly did Apple gain from FreeBSD? 2) What exactly has Apple contributed back to FreeBSD? (money? equipment? source code?). Nowadays, does Apple still continue to give anything back to the FreeBSD community? 3) How much of OSX today is open source (or "shared source")? Can you actually see the OSX source code? Can you use any of it? Because this is off-topic, it might be better if people responded directly to my email address rather than this forum. I can be reached at y2kbug@ms25.hinet.net. I know that I could ask these questions on an OSX forum, but then I'd probably receive 1000 replies from people telling me that OSX is the greatest thing since sliced bread - which, even if true, has nothing to do with the article I'm writing. And yes, I'm running FreeBSD (and Linux) at home, not OSX, but that also has nothing to do with the article. I appreciate any help I can get on this, and as always I'm happy to acknowledge anyone by name in the article for their assistance. thanks in advance and best regards, Robert