From owner-freebsd-cluster@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 01:35:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1103B16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 01:35:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dogfish.ldc.upenn.edu (dogfish.ldc.upenn.edu [158.130.17.107]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF00B43D39 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 01:35:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fuzz@dogfish.ldc.upenn.edu) Received: by dogfish.ldc.upenn.edu (Postfix, from userid 32822) id 4DDCC3CBC4F; Sat, 12 Jun 2004 21:34:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dogfish.ldc.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40DD93CBC21; Sat, 12 Jun 2004 21:34:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 21:34:34 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jason M. Leonard" To: Andy Sporner In-Reply-To: <20040612071152.67839.qmail@web41505.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040612212709.G10830@dogfish.ldc.upenn.edu> References: <20040612071152.67839.qmail@web41505.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Leaving the group X-BeenThere: freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Clustering FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 01:35:12 -0000 On Sat, 12 Jun 2004, Andy Sporner wrote: > I really laugh sometimes. People have borrowed the word "Community" > from the Linux folks, but people here (not necessarily in this group) > complain about linux. I know I have at times and I still think for > good reason. But they have one thing right. THey have, "The Linux > Router Project", or "The linux hi-availability project" ad nasuem... > > I thought since I was so far the first to step up to this that this > was the "FreeBSD HA project" but I was sorely mistaken evidently. Um. >From the Linux Router Project (http://www.linuxrouter.org) website: News: 2003-06-22 LRP == R.I.P. (1997-2002) With great pain, I must now state: The operating system that helped to create the embedded Linux marketplace, the Linux Router Project (LRP), is dead. As of January of this year I have finally accepted the fact I will likely never be able to develop LRP into the operating system it could have been. A full 6 months later I'm forcing myself to update this page to reflect this. It is not an easy thing to give up on your life's work. I am also now semi-retired as a computer engineer. Aside from my general disgust at the computing industry and what the Internet has become, scrambling around for scrapes of work and praying for the next good money project that eventually ends suddenly in a few months, just isn't keeping food on the table. I've looked quite a bit for some stable work, but plumbers make more hourly then Sys Admins in South Florida. Either I move to California (never!) or move on. I am now reserved to do the latter. With LRP remaining an unachievable goal I don't even feel much desire to work with computers anymore. My many contributions to the computing community has reaped very little personal benefit for myself. As I now struggle to pay the bills I can not help but feel quite pissed off at the state of affairs, for myself and the other authors who contributed massive amounts of time and quality work, only to have it whored by companies not willing to give back dime one to the people that actually created what it is they sell. Acknowledgement and referral would have at least been acceptable. Few companies do even that. Care to tell me what Embeddix (for one) is based off of? Ever offer me work Caldera? Even when I asked? Well actually I'm glad they didn't as I would hate to think I could have benefited those scumbags any further...but I think you, the reader, gets the point I'm making.