From owner-freebsd-config@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 18:58:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-config@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43C3716A4CE; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 18:58:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from redmailwall5.attws.com (redmailwall5.attws.com [67.98.173.56]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1D2343D54; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 18:58:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sean.white@attws.com) Received: from viruswall2.entp.attws.com ([135.214.241.196]) i5LIwRql005745; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 11:58:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scentmail.entp.attws.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i5LIwTwW010857; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 11:58:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from WA-MSGBH01-BTH.wireless.attws.com (WA-MSGBH01-BTH.wireless.attws.com [135.214.26.241])LAA26717; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 11:58:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from WA-MSG01-BTH.wireless.attws.com ([135.214.26.244]) by WA-MSGBH01-BTH.wireless.attws.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 21 Jun 2004 11:58:26 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6487.1 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 11:58:25 -0700 Message-ID: <2A5E0F7D50A37341BB53B6C4E6E0C0397332AE@WA-MSG01-BTH.wireless.attws.com> Thread-Topic: problem installing 4.10, boot hangs after PLIP0 Thread-Index: AcRXwbtqOd5szwtrTMOdVmu3KN8UxQ== From: "White, Sean" To: , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jun 2004 18:58:26.0354 (UTC) FILETIME=[BBC17920:01C457C1] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: skw@speakeasy.org cc: rikai@speakeasy.net Subject: problem installing 4.10, boot hangs after PLIP0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-config@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Installation and Configuration List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 18:58:29 -0000 Help! (please...) =20 I am having a problem getting FreeBSD 4.10 installed on my machine. Strangely, I have two almost identical boxes, and the problem exhibits itself on one but not the other. Any help as to why this is happening would be greatly appreciated. I have googled, searched list archives and poured over the handbook multiple times, and the only error report I can find that comes close (link below) does not seem to have been resolved... =20 Synopsis: =20 ASUS P2B motherboard, PII-350, 256 Meg RAM, 8 Gig UDMA33 IDE drive and ATAPI IDE CDROM, and 3COM 3c905 NIC. Booting from the 4.10 CDROM, I am able to get into the kernel config and play with what drivers get installed, but nothing I do there seems to help alleviate what happens next. After exiting that, it starts to boot, but stops at the "PLIP0" line and hangs indefinately. This list poster, although apparently using different hardware and installing a different version of FreeBSD, seems to be having the exact same issue, although the mailing list does not seem to have provided him with an answer. Link: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-config/2003-June/000007.h tml =20 =20 Detail: =20 Failing at the PLIP line led me to believe that perhaps (for what reason I cant imagine) there might be a problem with the parallel port or parallel driver, so disabling that driver in the kernel config, it then starts to boot but stops and hangs after probing/config-ing the serial ports (just like the poster above). In answer to the question at the end of his post, according to the handbook's example boot, the next thing in the boot sequence would seem to be probing for hard drives. So then I am thinking that there is something wrong with the drive or controller or the kernel probing for same. However, I am 99% sure that this drive and controller are working fine, as this hard drive currently boots just fine into Redhat 9 (which I am trying to replace). I can also successfully boot this machine via CDROM into any of a host of other "liveCD" distros such as Knoppix, SentryCD, Phlak, Smoothwall, etc. with no problems whatsoever (I realize that these are all linux kernel distros, so not a totally fair comparison...). So but the upshot is that this box does not seem to have any hardware issues that prevent it from booting to anything (via CDROM or hard drive) besides FreeBSD. =20 What is extra strange is that I also have a nearly identical box (only difference is 128 Meg RAM instead of 256, and 3 x 3COM 3c905 NICs instead of just one, otherwise, completely identical hardware), which seems to work perfectly. It boots from the FreeBSD CDROM (same disc), I dont even have to change or disable a single thing in the kernel config, and it successfully boots, proceeds into sysinstall, and allows me to go through the complete install process with no problems at all. I cant imagine what is different between these two boxes and they have never exhibited any hardware problems before. =20 So can anyone tell me what might be going on here, or what I might try next to troubleshoot it? Any help or pointers would be appreciated. If other logs or hardware info is required just ask, I will be glad to provide. This hardware is all relatively old (I mean old as in well-supported, not old as in crusty), so I wouldnt think there should be issues with unsupported, bleeding-edge craziness. And the fact that two nearly identical hardware configs are sporting different behavior would seem to indicate an actual hardware failure on the part of the one that doesnt work, but as I said, this box doesnt seem to have any problems booting other OS's, so I am confused. =20 I will disclaim in advance that, as with almost all computer problems, the issue is probably me doing something stupid or forgetting something. =20 Please reply via the list and/or my email address below. =20 Thanks! Sean White skw@speakeasy.org =20 =20 =20 =20 From owner-freebsd-config@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 22 12:38:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-config@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAF9016A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Jun 2004 12:38:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ylpvm01.prodigy.net (ylpvm01-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.57.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69FE643D5D for ; Tue, 22 Jun 2004 12:38:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-35.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.35])i5MCcChO024093; Tue, 22 Jun 2004 08:38:12 -0400 Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2B59A52911; Tue, 22 Jun 2004 05:38:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 05:38:14 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: "White, Sean" Message-ID: <20040622123814.GA15863@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <2A5E0F7D50A37341BB53B6C4E6E0C0397332AE@WA-MSG01-BTH.wireless.attws.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2A5E0F7D50A37341BB53B6C4E6E0C0397332AE@WA-MSG01-BTH.wireless.attws.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: skw@speakeasy.org cc: rikai@speakeasy.net cc: freebsd-config@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problem installing 4.10, boot hangs after PLIP0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-config@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Installation and Configuration List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 12:38:49 -0000 --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jun 21, 2004 at 11:58:25AM -0700, White, Sean wrote: > Help! (please...) > to be having the exact same issue, although the mailing list does not > seem to have provided him with an answer. Link: > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-config/2003-June/000007.h > tml > html>=20 Since you've consulted the list archive, I'm surprised you didn't notice that half of the traffic on this list is people replying to the other half of the email posters, asking why they're posting support requests to a non-support mailing list ;-) Kris --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFA2Cg1Wry0BWjoQKURAu6bAJ9THBVkevDnbntAfj6OExZcSiZTngCggVIH uIpvT/bl1T3tZl0eFWyMRxs= =rgPz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8-- From owner-freebsd-config@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 22 12:58:51 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-config@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB2B116A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Jun 2004 12:58:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from faceman.servitor.co.uk (faceman.servitor.co.uk [80.71.15.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 490A943D5E for ; Tue, 22 Jun 2004 12:58:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wiggy@servitor.co.uk) Received: from wiggy by faceman.servitor.co.uk with local (Exim 4.30) id 1BckrX-000C4x-UQ; Tue, 22 Jun 2004 13:58:55 +0100 Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 13:58:55 +0100 From: Paul Robinson To: Kris Kennaway Message-ID: <20040622125855.GG25838@iconoplex.co.uk> References: <2A5E0F7D50A37341BB53B6C4E6E0C0397332AE@WA-MSG01-BTH.wireless.attws.com> <20040622123814.GA15863@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: <20040622123814.GA15863@xor.obsecurity.org> Sender: Paul Robinson cc: freebsd-config@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problem installing 4.10, boot hangs after PLIP0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-config@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Installation and Configuration List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 12:58:52 -0000 On Tue, Jun 22, 2004 at 05:38:14AM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > Since you've consulted the list archive, I'm surprised you didn't > notice that half of the traffic on this list is people replying to the > other half of the email posters, asking why they're posting support > requests to a non-support mailing list ;-) Speaking of which, was the plan not to kill this list or rename it to=20 config-management? I was convinced that postmaster, you, several others had= =20 made the decision with me being the only one to suggest it stay as it was. I had assumed the list had just been rm'ed until I got the support question= =20 through the other day. Ho-hum. --=20 Paul Robinson http://www.iconoplex.co.uk/ From owner-freebsd-config@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 22 23:39:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-config@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCC7A16A4CF for ; Tue, 22 Jun 2004 23:39:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ylpvm15.prodigy.net (ylpvm15-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.57.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 973F343D5D for ; Tue, 22 Jun 2004 23:39:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-35.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.35])i5MNdiVh016513; Tue, 22 Jun 2004 19:39:45 -0400 Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EC7DE52911; Tue, 22 Jun 2004 16:39:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 16:39:39 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Paul Robinson Message-ID: <20040622233939.GA25485@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <2A5E0F7D50A37341BB53B6C4E6E0C0397332AE@WA-MSG01-BTH.wireless.attws.com> <20040622123814.GA15863@xor.obsecurity.org> <20040622125855.GG25838@iconoplex.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="6c2NcOVqGQ03X4Wi" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040622125855.GG25838@iconoplex.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-config@freebsd.org cc: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: problem installing 4.10, boot hangs after PLIP0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-config@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Installation and Configuration List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 23:39:44 -0000 --6c2NcOVqGQ03X4Wi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jun 22, 2004 at 01:58:55PM +0100, Paul Robinson wrote: > On Tue, Jun 22, 2004 at 05:38:14AM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: >=20 > > Since you've consulted the list archive, I'm surprised you didn't > > notice that half of the traffic on this list is people replying to the > > other half of the email posters, asking why they're posting support > > requests to a non-support mailing list ;-) >=20 > Speaking of which, was the plan not to kill this list or rename it to=20 > config-management? I was convinced that postmaster, you, several others h= ad=20 > made the decision with me being the only one to suggest it stay as it was. >=20 > I had assumed the list had just been rm'ed until I got the support questi= on=20 > through the other day. >=20 > Ho-hum. I suppose it just got forgotten with too many other things to do. I'll ask postmaster@ again. Kris --6c2NcOVqGQ03X4Wi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFA2MM7Wry0BWjoQKURAhKxAKD7JC4e8I1ZgMznG6qE5Htlpk42dACgxvPQ 6/tMQTd+8ypxhhtc2rxan8g= =CLHL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --6c2NcOVqGQ03X4Wi--