From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 8 11:34:33 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11A3716A4CF for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 11:34:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx01.bsinet.net (mx01.bsinet.net [63.175.65.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85CCB43D48 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 11:33:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eshabot@bsinet.net) Received: (qmail 15687 invoked from network); 8 Dec 2003 19:32:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO S62ORE) ([63.175.65.23]) (envelope-sender ) by mx01.bsinet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 8 Dec 2003 19:32:21 -0000 X-AntiVirus: Checked by Dr.Web (http://www.drweb.net) Message-ID: <01f201c3bdc2$32922710$1701a8c0@S62ORE> From: "Edward Shabotinsky" To: References: <1070830338.2103.1.camel@home.wsnet.co.za> <20031208190534.GB70103@www.lambertfam.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: Re: Billing System X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 19:34:33 -0000 X-Original-Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 13:33:46 -0600 X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 19:34:33 -0000 We've tried freeside, it's slow and for some reason stopped supporting mysql then we moved to emerald. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Lambert" To: Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 1:05 PM Subject: Re: Billing System > On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 10:52:18PM +0200, Dave Johnson wrote: > > Can anyone recommend an Accounting / Billing System for ISPs > > My favorite so far is BillMax. Runs on FreeBSD, uses lots of standard > *nix stuff that you are used to supporting. Completely web interfaced, > ie. use it from anywhere and get your work done. Getting custom reports > is easy enough if you have an SQL capable programmer on staff. > > My current system is Platypus. I pretty much hate it from the sysadmin > perspective after having gotten accustomed to how nicely BillMax > worked. I do realize that many of my issues with Platypus are related > to the less than complete way in which the former technical staff here > implemented it. I still have a lack of confidence in any product which > sits on top of Windows. But that's a personal predudice. > > If you just want opensource, freside might be an option. I have no > experience with it, but at least it has my two favorite features of > BillMax, web interface and runs on *nix. > > -- > Scott Lambert KC5MLE Unix SysAdmin > lambert@lambertfam.org > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 13 22:35:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCD3216A4CE for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 22:35:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from swisseasy.net (zuerich132.swisseasy.net [80.74.132.132]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D449343D4B for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 22:26:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from arie@gerszt.ch) Received: (qmail 565 invoked by uid 2520); 14 Dec 2003 06:26:47 -0000 Received: from arie@gerszt.ch by atlas.swisseasy.net by uid 89 with qmail-scanner-1.16 (clamscan: 0.60. spamassassin: 2.55. Clear:. Processed in 0.590181 secs); 14 Dec 2003 06:26:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO DELLARIE) (arie@gerszt.ch@212.41.78.179) by zuerich132.swisseasy.net with SMTP; 14 Dec 2003 06:26:46 -0000 From: "Arie J. Gerszt" To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <43427.192.168.23.91.1071380686.squirrel@mail.schmut.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: AW: disk error / failure: need help! (smart failure predicted) X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 06:35:06 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 07:27:40 +0100 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 06:35:06 -0000 thanks so far! and this also works for the boot secotor where the systems boots of? thanks, arie -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org]Im Auftrag von Mario Theodoridis Gesendet: Sonntag, 14. Dezember 2003 06:45 An: voytovich_slava@land.ru Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; iaccounts@northnetworks.ca Betreff: Re: disk error / failure: need help! (smart failure predicted) > Hi ! > > Does it need that the disks have the same geometry? > > Slava > i don't know about dd. As for dump, i've used it locally as well as remotely to back up entire partitions and as long as the target partition, which you need to format before hand, is big enough for the actual data, i've never had problems. For me this usually looks like this: [root@quack ~]#mount /dev/adwhatever /mountpoint [root@quack ~]#cd /mountpoint [root@quack /mountpoint]#dump 0f - / | restore -rf - hope it helps :) mario;> - - - - - - - - House Of Sites - - - - - - - - Web Design :: Programming :: Hosting :: Maintenance Web site: http://www.HouseOfSites.net Email: mario@HouseOfSites.net Tel: 415-242-3376 ---------------------------------------------------- Do you schmut!? http://www.schmut.com _______________________________________________ freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 22 00:35:06 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3178116A4CE for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 00:35:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from brisefer.cediti.be (porquepix.cediti.be [213.189.188.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5733643D55 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 00:35:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Olivier.Cherrier@cediti.be) Received: by brisefer.nat.cediti.be with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:33:59 +0100 Message-ID: From: Olivier Cherrier To: 'Eric Anderson' , Damian Gerow MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Managing Maildirs X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:35:06 -0000 X-Original-Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:33:58 +0100 X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:35:06 -0000 >>I am currently using mutt with mh-style directories on my >local machine, >>without difficulties. And if it /does/ cause difficulties, >just IMAP to >>localhost. Mutt and IMAP seem to play nicely together, I've >been using it >>with cyrus for about a year now, with no issues (aside from >configuration >>issues). >> >>The hard part will be converting your current mbox-style >mailboxes over to >>maildir-style mailboxes, IMHO. >> > >What about sendmail? Anyone using sendmail with it? No problem with sendmail. You just have to redefine the local mailer to something else than the standard sendmail "mail.local". Look for 'procmail' in the sendmail's README. BTW, you can use something else than procmail ... maildrop for example. To convert .... humm, set up a POP account with old mails (mbox) and an IMAP account for new mails (maildir). Then, users can "drag & drop" theirs mails from one to the other using theirs MUA. Good luck. oc From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 21:48:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A317C16AA0E for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 21:48:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from nitrogen.nocdirect.com (nitrogen.nocdirect.com [69.73.164.246]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C36F644800 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 20:41:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dap99@i-55.com) Received: from [69.2.39.107] (helo=watcher.puryear-it.com) by nitrogen.nocdirect.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AlL21-0000A9-Cd for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 22:40:57 -0600 Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by watcher.puryear-it.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 808D434D1F for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 22:39:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from watcher.puryear-it.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (watcher.puryear-it.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 61207-03 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 22:39:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from yourqqh4336axf (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by watcher.puryear-it.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2018C34D1E for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 22:39:53 -0600 (CST) From: To: Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 22:45:07 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AcPkj9D0pH4EpqwTSo6CTtvTBSGNaQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2727.1300 Message-Id: <20040127043953.2018C34D1E@watcher.puryear-it.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - nitrogen.nocdirect.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - i-55.com Subject: Automating Apache installs.. X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 05:48:54 -0000 I am using FreeBSD ports to install both Apache 1.3 and PHP4. All fine and dandy, except we use apache+modssl instead of just apache. Well, both www/mod_php4 and lang/php4 have apache as a dependency. This means that if I install apache+modssl and then php4 that ports will try to install apache as well. I can of course do this: 1. Install apache 2. Install apache+modssl over apache 3. Install php4 But that's just messy. I want to automate this process, so I am trying to avoid customizing lang/php4/Makefile (i.e., changing the DEPENDS line from apache to apache+modssl). Any suggestions? I am sure others here have experience with just this problem. From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 22:03:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E38916A4D8 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 22:03:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [66.92.160.223]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CF3643D39 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 22:03:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mdodd@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sasami.jurai.net (winter@sasami.jurai.net [66.92.160.223]) by sasami.jurai.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i0R63Pdi080393; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 01:03:25 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mdodd@FreeBSD.ORG) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 01:03:24 -0500 (EST) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" X-X-Sender: winter@sasami.jurai.net To: Scott Lambert In-Reply-To: <20040126062524.GA22854@laptop.lambertfam.org> Message-ID: <20040127010221.O57327@sasami.jurai.net> References: <1075073079.2352.121.camel@papa.wdm.com> <20040126062524.GA22854@laptop.lambertfam.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FBSD 5.1 install problem on a DL380 X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 06:03:28 -0000 On Mon, 26 Jan 2004, Scott Lambert wrote: > > boot info (under 4.9) is: > > ida0: port 0x2000-0x20ff mem > > 0xc5000000-0xc5ffffff,0xc6000000-0xc6ffffff irq 2 at device 1.0 on pci0 > > ida0: drives=1 firm_rev=1.42 > > idad0: on ida0 > > idad0: 17343MB (35520480 sectors), blocksize=512 > > My 1850Rs also don't work with 5.1. But I was under the impression that > the ida card was giving it fits, not the video card. Try 5.2; there was a problem with the IDA driver as shipped with 5.1 that was fixed shortly after. I'd also like some 5.2 users to test the ida(4) userland tool. :) -- 10 40 80 C0 00 FF FF FF FF C0 00 00 00 00 10 AA AA 03 00 00 00 08 00 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 00:16:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F268416A4CE for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 00:16:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.yazzy.org (yazzy.org [217.8.140.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 723D543D45 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 00:16:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@yazzy.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.yazzy.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B88039812; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 09:16:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.yazzy.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (urukhai.yazzy.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 71677-03; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 09:16:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (yazzy [192.168.98.11]) by mail.yazzy.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2CAC139814; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 09:16:22 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 09:13:22 +0100 From: Martin Jessa To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20040127091322.1d2ac77e.freebsd@yazzy.org> In-Reply-To: <20040127043953.2018C34D1E@watcher.puryear-it.com> References: <20040127043953.2018C34D1E@watcher.puryear-it.com> Organization: WRS ASA X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: dap99@i-55.com Subject: Re: Automating Apache installs.. X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 08:16:33 -0000 Hi. This should go to ports@ You can add an option in the php4 port to allow you to chose your apache version. This is fairly easy. Then send PR with your patches using i.e gtk-send-pr. It should get accepted and published after that. All of my patches fortunatelly did. Good luck. YazzY On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 22:45:07 -0600 wrote: > I am using FreeBSD ports to install both Apache 1.3 and PHP4. All fine and > dandy, except we use apache+modssl instead of just apache. Well, both > www/mod_php4 and lang/php4 have apache as a dependency. This means that if I > install apache+modssl and then php4 that ports will try to install apache as > well. I can of course do this: > > 1. Install apache > 2. Install apache+modssl over apache > 3. Install php4 > > But that's just messy. I want to automate this process, so I am trying to > avoid customizing lang/php4/Makefile (i.e., changing the DEPENDS line from > apache to apache+modssl). > > Any suggestions? I am sure others here have experience with just this > problem. > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 01:13:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F49216A4CF for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 01:13:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from phantom.keystreams.com (phantom.keystreams.com [207.158.28.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 088F943D45 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 01:13:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from volfman@keystreams.com) Received: (qmail 15515 invoked from network); 27 Jan 2004 09:13:06 -0000 Received: from ts46-01-qdr1564.wvlle.ca.charter.com (HELO keystreams.com) (66.189.142.28) by mail.keystreams.com with SMTP; 27 Jan 2004 09:13:06 -0000 Message-ID: <40162C14.1000008@keystreams.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 01:15:00 -0800 From: Roman Volf User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4b) Gecko/20030507 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dap99@i-55.com References: <20040127043953.2018C34D1E@watcher.puryear-it.com> In-Reply-To: <20040127043953.2018C34D1E@watcher.puryear-it.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Automating Apache installs.. X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 09:13:08 -0000 Hrm.. I've never had a problem doing: 1.) Install apache+modssl. 2.) Install php4. The php4 port will find your apache and install php4 as a DSO. -- Roman Volf Keystreams Internet Solutions (619) 572-2062 dap99@i-55.com wrote: >I am using FreeBSD ports to install both Apache 1.3 and PHP4. All fine and >dandy, except we use apache+modssl instead of just apache. Well, both >www/mod_php4 and lang/php4 have apache as a dependency. This means that if I >install apache+modssl and then php4 that ports will try to install apache as >well. I can of course do this: > >1. Install apache >2. Install apache+modssl over apache >3. Install php4 > >But that's just messy. I want to automate this process, so I am trying to >avoid customizing lang/php4/Makefile (i.e., changing the DEPENDS line from >apache to apache+modssl). > >Any suggestions? I am sure others here have experience with just this >problem. > > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 04:23:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A9AE16A4CE for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 04:23:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.ivtelecom.ru (www.ivtelecom.ru [81.20.97.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2347943D68 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 04:23:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from apanyushkin@ivtelecom.ru) Received: by www.ivtelecom.ru with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) id ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 15:23:32 +0300 Received: from ERC-ANTON ([10.48.24.100]) by mail.ivtelecom.ru with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2656.59) id CN22BB8J; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 15:23:20 +0300 From: apanyushkin@ivtelecom.ru To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 15:22:55 +0300 X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.00.6) Personal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <3121431927.20040127152255@ivtelecom.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Cyrus-SASL X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: apanyushkin@ivtelecom.ru List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:23:48 -0000 Hello, I wish to migrate from MS Exchange to Unix POP3/IMAP4 server. The problem is that users should be authentificated againist Windows NT domain. I noticed that Cyrus-SASL library that is used by Cyrus-IMAPd server supports NTLM authentification. Is it possible to configure Cyrus-IMAPd to authentificate users againist Windows NT domain with Cyrus-SASL library. Unfortunately, I didn't find any docs about that. Has anyone implemented such a solution? Links to docs & howtos are also wellcomed. -- Best regards, Anton mailto:apanyushkin@ivtelecom.ru From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 06:44:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B300C16A4CE for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 06:44:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from dev.null.cz (dev.null.cz [81.0.254.183]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7695143D46 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 06:44:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from buki@dev.null.cz) Received: from dev.null.cz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dev.null.cz (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i0REiAKq036982; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 15:44:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from buki@dev.null.cz) Received: (from buki@localhost) by dev.null.cz (8.12.9p2/8.12.9/Submit) id i0REi9SW036981; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 15:44:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from buki) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 15:44:09 +0100 From: Buki To: Roman Volf Message-ID: <20040127144409.GB98377@dev.null.cz> References: <20040127043953.2018C34D1E@watcher.puryear-it.com> <40162C14.1000008@keystreams.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="rJwd6BRFiFCcLxzm" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <40162C14.1000008@keystreams.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1i X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 'clamd / ClamAV version 0.65', clamav-milter version '0.60p' X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=6.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on dev.null.cz cc: dap99@i-55.com cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Automating Apache installs.. X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 14:44:26 -0000 --rJwd6BRFiFCcLxzm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jan 27, 2004 at 01:15:00AM -0800, Roman Volf wrote: > Hrm.. >=20 > I've never had a problem doing: >=20 > 1.) Install apache+modssl. > 2.) Install php4. if using portupgrade, than 3.) run pkgdb -F to fix dependencies >=20 > The php4 port will find your apache and install php4 as a DSO. >=20 and yes, no trouble here as well. >=20 > --=20 > Roman Volf > Keystreams Internet Solutions > (619) 572-2062 >=20 Buki --=20 PGP public key: http://dev.null.cz/buki.asc /"\ \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML & Outlook Mail / \ http://www.thebackrow.net --rJwd6BRFiFCcLxzm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFAFnk5PzhIkpLLm08RAnTpAJ9+EiHfLI2EYVDpLhprHskQJ9GjSACcCeO/ rwwqzvytC1Sg3CfMy/Xnmr4= =+4wY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --rJwd6BRFiFCcLxzm-- From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 10:19:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A04EC16A4CE for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 10:19:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.egation.com (frhemail.colo.egation.com [216.218.216.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0B68543D67 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 10:18:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from david@mail.egation.com) Received: (qmail 17964 invoked by uid 0); 27 Jan 2004 18:18:24 -0000 Received: from frecnocpc2.noc.egation.com (66.220.15.53) by frhemail.colo.egation.com with SMTP; 27 Jan 2004 18:18:24 -0000 Received: from frecnocpc2.noc.egation.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i0RIIMoF035785 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 10:18:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from david@frecnocpc2.noc.egation.com) Received: (from david@localhost)i0RIIKI5035779 for isp@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 10:18:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from david) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 10:18:20 -0800 From: David Wolfskill To: isp@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040127181820.GJ323@frecnocpc2.noc.egation.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Recommendation for "antivirus" software (MTA is qmail) X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 18:19:13 -0000 My boss, who persists in using a M$-based desktop, wants me to install an "antivirus solution" on our mail server. In fairness, he also wants to reduce the expose to (and from) our customers (many of whom also run such systems). The MTA we currently use is qmail on a system running FreeBSD 4.8. As far as I can tell, that is for its ease of integration with vpopmail. As far as this message is concerned, I am being agnostic with respect to the choice of qmail for the MTA; it was made prior to the start of my tenure here, and I am unwilling to make a change if I believe that the result will not be worth the effort and disruption. A small bit of background: my employer is a nascent ISP, with a fair amount of emphasis on use of wireless (well, radio) technology. It would be useful to be able to also get some spam-avoidance capability along with this. That said, several of our salient resources are limited. A quick look around the Web shows some plausible-looking contenders; what I seek are real-life experiences with these (or similar) products, or other aspects that may not be immediately obvious from reading the promotional material on the Web sites: * qmail-scanner, clamav, and spamassassin http://clamav.elektrapro.com/doc/FreeBSD-HowTo/qmail-scanner-how-to.html * Dr.Web for UNIX systems http://www.dials.ru/english/dsav_toolkit/drwebunix.htm [Also at http://www.advancedforce.com/antivirus/av_unixms.html ?] * RAV AntiVirus http://www.ravantivirus.com/pages/isp.php * Vexira Antivirus for Mail servers FreeBSD edition http://www.ti.com.pl/antivirus.php?s=vexira&d=products&w=details&pid=8 * AntiVir http://www.hbedv.com/ * Sophos PureMessage http://www.sophos.com/products/pm/ Each of the above (save the first) appears to be a commercial product. We are open -- in principle -- to any solution, whether free or fee. Thanks! (in advance) Peace, david -- David H. Wolfskill david@egation.com From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 10:25:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8559F16A4CE for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 10:25:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from blue.gerhardt-it.com (gw.gerhardt-it.com [204.83.38.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C606B43D7D for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 10:24:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scott@g-it.ca) Received: from [24.78.101.202] (h24-78-101-202.ss.shawcable.net [24.78.101.202]) by blue.gerhardt-it.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFC70FDB6; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:24:22 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <20040127181820.GJ323@frecnocpc2.noc.egation.com> References: <20040127181820.GJ323@frecnocpc2.noc.egation.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v612) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <074A59C7-50F6-11D8-804F-000393801C60@g-it.ca> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Scott Gerhardt Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:24:22 -0600 To: David Wolfskill X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.612) cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recommendation for "antivirus" software (MTA is qmail) X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 18:25:25 -0000 On Jan 27, 2004, at 12:18 PM, David Wolfskill wrote: > My boss, who persists in using a M$-based desktop, wants me to install > an "antivirus solution" on our mail server. In fairness, he also wants > to reduce the expose to (and from) our customers (many of whom also run > such systems). > > The MTA we currently use is qmail on a system running FreeBSD 4.8. > As far as I can tell, that is for its ease of integration with > vpopmail. As far as this message is concerned, I am being agnostic > with respect to the choice of qmail for the MTA; it was made prior > to the start of my tenure here, and I am unwilling to make a change > if I believe that the result will not be worth the effort and > disruption. > > A small bit of background: my employer is a nascent ISP, with a fair > amount of emphasis on use of wireless (well, radio) technology. > > It would be useful to be able to also get some spam-avoidance > capability > along with this. That said, several of our salient resources are > limited. > > A quick look around the Web shows some plausible-looking contenders; > what I seek are real-life experiences with these (or similar) products, > or other aspects that may not be immediately obvious from reading the > promotional material on the Web sites: > > * qmail-scanner, clamav, and spamassassin > > http://clamav.elektrapro.com/doc/FreeBSD-HowTo/qmail-scanner-how- > to.html > > * Dr.Web for UNIX systems > http://www.dials.ru/english/dsav_toolkit/drwebunix.htm > [Also at http://www.advancedforce.com/antivirus/av_unixms.html ?] > > * RAV AntiVirus > http://www.ravantivirus.com/pages/isp.php > > * Vexira Antivirus for Mail servers FreeBSD edition > > http://www.ti.com.pl/antivirus.php?s=vexira&d=products&w=details&pid=8 > > * AntiVir > http://www.hbedv.com/ > > * Sophos PureMessage > http://www.sophos.com/products/pm/ > > Each of the above (save the first) appears to be a commercial product. > We are open -- in principle -- to any solution, whether free or fee. > > Thanks! (in advance) > > Peace, > david > -- > David H. Wolfskill david@egation.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Note: RAV AntiVirus has been purchased/acquired by Microsoft. I would suspect that Microsoft will utilize the RAV engine for Windows products and discontinue support for all UNIX implementations. From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 10:27:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2895D16A4CE for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 10:27:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from manganese.bos.dyndns.org (manganese.bos.dyndns.org [63.208.196.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB31443D6E for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 10:26:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from twilde@dyndns.org) Received: from manganese.bos.dyndns.org (twilde@localhost [127.0.0.1]) i0RIPlPn025695; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 13:25:47 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from twilde@dyndns.org) Received: from localhost (twilde@localhost)i0RIPl4i025692; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 13:25:47 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: manganese.bos.dyndns.org: twilde owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 13:25:47 -0500 (EST) From: Tim Wilde X-X-Sender: twilde@manganese.bos.dyndns.org To: David Wolfskill In-Reply-To: <20040127181820.GJ323@frecnocpc2.noc.egation.com> Message-ID: References: <20040127181820.GJ323@frecnocpc2.noc.egation.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: -4.9 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recommendation for "antivirus" software (MTA is qmail) X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 18:27:13 -0000 On Tue, 27 Jan 2004, David Wolfskill wrote: > * qmail-scanner, clamav, and spamassassin > http://clamav.elektrapro.com/doc/FreeBSD-HowTo/qmail-scanner-how-to.html I'd highly recommend ClamAV. They had signatures for the MyDoom/Novarg worm before most of the commercial AV vendors, and we run more 60,000 messages per day through it. I know of people who use it for much higher volumes. I don't know about the qmail-scanner integration, as we use it with Exim via exiscan and Sendmail via MIMEDefang, but the product itself is top notch. It is actively developed and well-maintained, and best of all, totally free. Tim Wilde -- Tim Wilde twilde@dyndns.org Systems Administrator Dynamic Network Services, Inc. http://www.dyndns.org/ From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 10:33:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28F5C16A4CE for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 10:33:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.eaznet.com (mail.eaznet.com [63.229.182.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C60BC43D55 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 10:32:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeff@eaznet.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.eaznet.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail.eaznet.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1909106B30 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 11:09:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from mail.eaznet.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (stout.eaznet.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 14285-02 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 11:09:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from www.eaznet.com (pilsner.eaznet.com [63.229.182.12]) by mail.eaznet.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 9AB5410722B for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 11:09:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from 198.182.71.58 (SquirrelMail authenticated user jeff) by www.eaznet.com with HTTP; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 11:27:09 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <45889.198.182.71.58.1075228029.squirrel@www.eaznet.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20040127181820.GJ323@frecnocpc2.noc.egation.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 11:27:09 -0700 (MST) From: "Jeff Gojkovich" To: isp@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at mail.eaznet.com Subject: Re: Recommendation for "antivirus" software (MTA is qmail) X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 18:33:06 -0000 I agree with this totally. This is a top notch program. Easy to set up and very effective. -- Jeff > On Tue, 27 Jan 2004, David Wolfskill wrote: > >> * qmail-scanner, clamav, and spamassassin >> http://clamav.elektrapro.com/doc/FreeBSD-HowTo/qmail-scanner-how-to.html > > I'd highly recommend ClamAV. They had signatures for the MyDoom/Novarg > worm before most of the commercial AV vendors, and we run more 60,000 > messages per day through it. I know of people who use it for much higher > volumes. I don't know about the qmail-scanner integration, as we use it > with Exim via exiscan and Sendmail via MIMEDefang, but the product itself > is top notch. It is actively developed and well-maintained, and best of > all, totally free. > > Tim Wilde > > -- > Tim Wilde > twilde@dyndns.org > Systems Administrator > Dynamic Network Services, Inc. > http://www.dyndns.org/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 10:36:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3636116A4CE for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 10:36:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from otter3.centtech.com (moat3.centtech.com [207.200.51.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6304343D7B for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 10:35:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from centtech.com (neutrino.centtech.com [10.177.171.220]) by otter3.centtech.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id i0RIYbE8002698; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:34:37 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Message-ID: <4016AF20.2090001@centtech.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:34:08 -0600 From: Eric Anderson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20040121 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Wolfskill References: <20040127181820.GJ323@frecnocpc2.noc.egation.com> In-Reply-To: <20040127181820.GJ323@frecnocpc2.noc.egation.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recommendation for "antivirus" software (MTA is qmail) X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 18:36:19 -0000 David Wolfskill wrote: > * Sophos PureMessage > http://www.sophos.com/products/pm/ > > Each of the above (save the first) appears to be a commercial product. > We are open -- in principle -- to any solution, whether free or fee. > We're using Sendmail+Amavis+Sophos Sweep (on FreeBSD of course), and SpamAssassin with procmail - each user can optionally use spamassassin, and configuration is per user. Eric -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Eric Anderson Sr. Systems Administrator Centaur Technology Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday. ------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 10:40:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10EB416A4CF for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 10:40:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from webmail.akwireless.net (webmail.akwireless.net [192.189.218.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BE71643D7D for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 10:39:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dee@akwireless.net) Received: (qmail 18541 invoked by uid 1020); 27 Jan 2004 18:39:06 -0000 Received: from dee@akwireless.net by webmail by uid 1006 with qmail-scanner-1.20 (clamscan: 0.65. Clear:RC:1(127.0.0.1):. Processed in 0.032309 secs); 27 Jan 2004 18:39:06 -0000 X-Scanner-AKW-Mail-From: dee@akwireless.net via webmail X-Scanner-AKW: 1.20 (Clear:RC:1(127.0.0.1):. Processed in 0.032309 secs) Received: from unknown (HELO papa.wdm-lan) (127.0.0.1) by 0 with SMTP; 27 Jan 2004 18:39:06 -0000 From: "W.D.McKinney" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20040127181820.GJ323@frecnocpc2.noc.egation.com> References: <20040127181820.GJ323@frecnocpc2.noc.egation.com> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1075229347.9956.250.camel@papa.wdm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Rubber Turnip www.usr-local-bin.org Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 09:49:08 -0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Recommendation for "antivirus" software (MTA is qmail) X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 18:40:10 -0000 On Tue, 2004-01-27 at 09:18, David Wolfskill wrote: > My boss, who persists in using a M$-based desktop, wants me to install > an "antivirus solution" on our mail server. In fairness, he also wants > to reduce the expose to (and from) our customers (many of whom also run > such systems). > > The MTA we currently use is qmail on a system running FreeBSD 4.8. > As far as I can tell, that is for its ease of integration with > vpopmail. As far as this message is concerned, I am being agnostic > with respect to the choice of qmail for the MTA; it was made prior > to the start of my tenure here, and I am unwilling to make a change > if I believe that the result will not be worth the effort and > disruption. > > A small bit of background: my employer is a nascent ISP, with a fair > amount of emphasis on use of wireless (well, radio) technology. > > It would be useful to be able to also get some spam-avoidance capability > along with this. That said, several of our salient resources are limited. > > A quick look around the Web shows some plausible-looking contenders; > what I seek are real-life experiences with these (or similar) products, > or other aspects that may not be immediately obvious from reading the > promotional material on the Web sites: > > * qmail-scanner, clamav, and spamassassin > http://clamav.elektrapro.com/doc/FreeBSD-HowTo/qmail-scanner-how-to.html > > * Dr.Web for UNIX systems > http://www.dials.ru/english/dsav_toolkit/drwebunix.htm > [Also at http://www.advancedforce.com/antivirus/av_unixms.html ?] > > * RAV AntiVirus > http://www.ravantivirus.com/pages/isp.php > > * Vexira Antivirus for Mail servers FreeBSD edition > http://www.ti.com.pl/antivirus.php?s=vexira&d=products&w=details&pid=8 > > * AntiVir > http://www.hbedv.com/ > > * Sophos PureMessage > http://www.sophos.com/products/pm/ > > Each of the above (save the first) appears to be a commercial product. > We are open -- in principle -- to any solution, whether free or fee. > > Thanks! (in advance) Here you go. OK, we are a qmail house also. We run clamav frontwards and backwards on the MTA. We also filter with a Barracuda Networks Anti-Spam/Anti-Virus Firewall as the primary MX for all domains. This is a highly effective Spam/Virus stopping engine and has reduced the CPU cycles and writes to HD's by 50% on our MTA's. Barracuda is inexpensive also. Cheers, Dee -- W.D.McKinney (Dee) Alaska Wireless Systems http://www.akwireless.net (907)349-4308 Office (907)349-2226 Fax From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 12:17:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBF2916A4CE for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:17:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from spintime.org (mail.spintime.org [207.206.44.110]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A994443D5F for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:17:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cody@wilkshire.net) Received: (qmail 13270 invoked by uid 0); 27 Jan 2004 20:19:08 -0000 Received: from cody@wilkshire.net by spintime.org by uid 0 with qmail-scanner-1.16 (clamscan: 0.54. Clear:. Processed in 4.954595 secs); 27 Jan 2004 20:19:08 -0000 X-Qmail-Scanner-Mail-From: cody@wilkshire.net via spintime.org X-Qmail-Scanner: 1.16 (Clear:. Processed in 4.954595 secs) Received: from unknown (HELO MISCHIEVOUS) (spinnah@spintime.org@198.30.217.3) by mail.spintime.org with SMTP; 27 Jan 2004 20:19:03 -0000 Message-ID: <001101c3e512$968b00d0$011aa8c0@MISCHIEVOUS> From: "Cody Baker" To: References: <20040127181820.GJ323@frecnocpc2.noc.egation.com> <1075229347.9956.250.camel@papa.wdm.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 15:16:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: Re: Recommendation for "antivirus" software (MTA is qmail) X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 20:17:56 -0000 We use qmail-scanner with clam scan for 4000+ email accounts. It works well, and it's place in the qmail delivery system makes it very scalable. We originally started out with qmail running on the main mail server. Due to increased load we've dropped in a qmail/qmail-scanner based host which proxies mail using SMTP-route to our mail server. The other advantage about qmail scanner is that because it runs in the before qmail-queue, any mail rejected by the host is instantly denied. It's a very flexible system and I recommend. If you do use it, I would recommend not using it's MIME header features they can cause some false positives. It can be found at http://qmail-scanner.sourceforge.net If you need any help with it, give me an email at cody@wilkshire.net, I'd be more than willing to give some pointers. Thank you, Cody ----- Original Message ----- From: "W.D.McKinney" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 1:49 PM Subject: Re: Recommendation for "antivirus" software (MTA is qmail) > On Tue, 2004-01-27 at 09:18, David Wolfskill wrote: > > My boss, who persists in using a M$-based desktop, wants me to install > > an "antivirus solution" on our mail server. In fairness, he also wants > > to reduce the expose to (and from) our customers (many of whom also run > > such systems). > > > > The MTA we currently use is qmail on a system running FreeBSD 4.8. > > As far as I can tell, that is for its ease of integration with > > vpopmail. As far as this message is concerned, I am being agnostic > > with respect to the choice of qmail for the MTA; it was made prior > > to the start of my tenure here, and I am unwilling to make a change > > if I believe that the result will not be worth the effort and > > disruption. > > > > A small bit of background: my employer is a nascent ISP, with a fair > > amount of emphasis on use of wireless (well, radio) technology. > > > > It would be useful to be able to also get some spam-avoidance capability > > along with this. That said, several of our salient resources are limited. > > > > A quick look around the Web shows some plausible-looking contenders; > > what I seek are real-life experiences with these (or similar) products, > > or other aspects that may not be immediately obvious from reading the > > promotional material on the Web sites: > > > > * qmail-scanner, clamav, and spamassassin > > http://clamav.elektrapro.com/doc/FreeBSD-HowTo/qmail-scanner-how-to.html > > > > * Dr.Web for UNIX systems > > http://www.dials.ru/english/dsav_toolkit/drwebunix.htm > > [Also at http://www.advancedforce.com/antivirus/av_unixms.html ?] > > > > * RAV AntiVirus > > http://www.ravantivirus.com/pages/isp.php > > > > * Vexira Antivirus for Mail servers FreeBSD edition > > http://www.ti.com.pl/antivirus.php?s=vexira&d=products&w=details&pid=8 > > > > * AntiVir > > http://www.hbedv.com/ > > > > * Sophos PureMessage > > http://www.sophos.com/products/pm/ > > > > Each of the above (save the first) appears to be a commercial product. > > We are open -- in principle -- to any solution, whether free or fee. > > > > Thanks! (in advance) > > > Here you go. > OK, we are a qmail house also. We run clamav frontwards and backwards on > the MTA. We also filter with a Barracuda Networks Anti-Spam/Anti-Virus > Firewall as the primary MX for all domains. This is a highly effective > Spam/Virus stopping engine and has reduced the CPU cycles and writes to > HD's by 50% on our MTA's. Barracuda is inexpensive also. > > Cheers, > Dee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > W.D.McKinney (Dee) > Alaska Wireless Systems > http://www.akwireless.net > (907)349-4308 Office > (907)349-2226 Fax > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 14:07:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF96F16A4CE for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 14:07:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from Shenton.org (23.ebbed1.client.atlantech.net [209.190.235.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4FF7343D4C for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 14:07:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@Shenton.Org) Received: (qmail 57277 invoked by uid 1001); 27 Jan 2004 22:07:38 -0000 To: David Wolfskill References: <20040127181820.GJ323@frecnocpc2.noc.egation.com> From: Chris Shenton Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 17:07:38 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20040127181820.GJ323@frecnocpc2.noc.egation.com> (David Wolfskill's message of "Tue, 27 Jan 2004 10:18:20 -0800") Message-ID: <861xploxjp.fsf@PECTOPAH.shenton.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110002 (No Gnus v0.2) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recommendation for "antivirus" software (MTA is qmail) X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 22:07:58 -0000 David Wolfskill writes: > My boss, who persists in using a M$-based desktop, wants me to install > an "antivirus solution" on our mail server. > The MTA we currently use is qmail on a system running FreeBSD 4.8. > As far as I can tell, that is for its ease of integration with > vpopmail. qmail guru, Russ Nelson has the qmail-smtpd-virusscan.patch which blocks all MS executable attachments sent as base-64 encoded attachments. Folks who use it claim it stops almost all virii. I haven't done tests or analyzed logs, but it seems to help a huge amount. It's very fast since it just looks for the 9-character-long base-64 strings which match the beginning of any MS executable file in the first line of an attachment: it doesn't do unpacking, unzipping, but it also doesn't believe any filenames or extensions. It does this at the qmail-smtpd level, before getting into your queue, rejecting the connection with a message that says something like "we don't accept executable attachments" so human senders can re-send as ZIP or something. The qmail-ldap folks also use a variant for what it's worth. I patched the qmail-smtpd on a small ISP I support, with which I also use vpopmail. They're losely coupled enough this isn't a problem. I'd suggest starting with this. If anything gets through, you might want to look into another more cpu-intensive filter. But the patch is very low CPU usage. I don't have a handle on the anti-spam thing -- that's a LOT harder to detect reliably (and cheaply/quickly). From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 19:30:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 653A616A4D0 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 19:30:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from spooky.eis.net.au (spooky.eis.net.au [203.12.171.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50EED43D69 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 19:29:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ernie@spooky.eis.net.au) Received: (from ernie@localhost) by spooky.eis.net.au (8.12.10/8.12.10) id i0S3Ts9T001313; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 13:29:54 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from ernie) From: User Ernie Message-Id: <200401280329.i0S3Ts9T001313@spooky.eis.net.au> In-Reply-To: <20040127214059.V58969@kiholo.bickley.public-internet.org> To: Tom Beard Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 13:29:54 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL99b (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: L2TP LNS setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 03:30:08 -0000 > Ernie, > > Did you manage to get anywhere with this? I am currently facing the > same situation. The FreeBSD l2tpd looks like it should be able to do what > I'm looking for, but it does appear to be very untested. > > Tom Hi Tom, your message is the first response to my query, still waiting for feedback. I am sure someone must have tried l2tpd port in an ISP environment. I am looking at it for a Cisco router replacement to terminate ADSL users tunnels, and spawn off PPPoE sessions. The only restriction I have found so far is a mention of a 256 tunnel limit in FreeBSD 4.*-RELEASE that is fixed in 5.2-RELEASE. - Ernie. From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 21:44:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A23516A4CE for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 21:44:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mg3.xecu.net (mg3.xecu.net [216.127.136.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 899F743D5E for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 21:44:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andy@xecu.net) Received: by mg3.xecu.net (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 08E683DACF5; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 00:43:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from thunder.xecu.net (thunder.xecu.net [216.127.136.208]) by mg3.xecu.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABF2F3DACF2; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 00:43:56 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 00:43:56 -0500 (EST) From: Andy Dills To: David Wolfskill In-Reply-To: <20040127181820.GJ323@frecnocpc2.noc.egation.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recommendation for "antivirus" software (MTA is qmail) X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 05:44:06 -0000 On Tue, 27 Jan 2004, David Wolfskill wrote: > It would be useful to be able to also get some spam-avoidance capability > along with this. That said, several of our salient resources are limited. You really can't beat Amavisd-new acting as the glue between your MTA, clamav doing the virus filtering, and spamassassin doing the spam filtering. http://www.flakshack.com/anti-spam/ is probably the best documentation of an implementation. http://www.imladris.sk/howto/ is an example of Qmail & FreeBSD utilizing amavisd-new. Andy --- Andy Dills Xecunet, Inc. www.xecu.net 301-682-9972 --- From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 23:33:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC0E616A4CE for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 23:33:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.palnet.com (mail.palnet.com [217.66.226.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1325D43D46 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 23:33:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mustafa@palnet.com) Received: from felfel (dogbert.palnet.com [192.116.17.51]) by mail.palnet.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id i0S7QVJS010988; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 09:26:32 +0200 (IST) From: "Mustafa N. Deeb" To: "'Eric Anderson'" , "'David Wolfskill'" Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 10:34:54 +0200 Organization: Palnet Communications Ltd. Message-ID: <066701c3e967$731dec30$8d00000a@felfel> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4016AF20.2090001@centtech.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Recommendation for "antivirus" software (MTA is qmail) X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mustafa@palnet.com List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 07:33:26 -0000 Hello Eric Are you utilizing Milter support in sendmail? CHeers ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mustafa N. Deeb Technical Director Palnet Communications Ltd. Tel: +970-2-2403434 Fax: +970-2-2403430 www.palsms.com www.paltime.net www.palnet.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Eric Anderson Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 8:34 PM To: David Wolfskill Cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recommendation for "antivirus" software (MTA is qmail) David Wolfskill wrote: > * Sophos PureMessage > http://www.sophos.com/products/pm/ > > Each of the above (save the first) appears to be a commercial product. > We are open -- in principle -- to any solution, whether free or fee. > We're using Sendmail+Amavis+Sophos Sweep (on FreeBSD of course), and SpamAssassin with procmail - each user can optionally use spamassassin, and configuration is per user. Eric -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Eric Anderson Sr. Systems Administrator Centaur Technology Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday. ------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 04:54:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F50016A4CE for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 04:54:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from dev.null.cz (dev.null.cz [81.0.254.183]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FA2643D3F for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 04:54:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from buki@dev.null.cz) Received: from dev.null.cz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dev.null.cz (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i0SCre0u082260; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 13:53:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from buki@dev.null.cz) Received: (from buki@localhost) by dev.null.cz (8.12.9p2/8.12.9/Submit) id i0SCrc0S082259; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 13:53:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from buki) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 13:53:38 +0100 From: Buki To: "Mustafa N. Deeb" Message-ID: <20040128125338.GB81826@dev.null.cz> References: <4016AF20.2090001@centtech.com> <066701c3e967$731dec30$8d00000a@felfel> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="cWoXeonUoKmBZSoM" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <066701c3e967$731dec30$8d00000a@felfel> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1i X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 'clamd / ClamAV version 0.65', clamav-milter version '0.60p' X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=6.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on dev.null.cz cc: 'David Wolfskill' cc: 'Eric Anderson' cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recommendation for "antivirus" software (MTA is qmail) X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 12:54:08 -0000 --cWoXeonUoKmBZSoM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Feb 02, 2004 at 10:34:54AM +0200, Mustafa N. Deeb wrote: > Hello Eric >=20 > Are you utilizing Milter support in sendmail? in my experience amavis-new in milter config cannot change headers properly (maybe that changed now) so I moved to using clamav-milter and spamassassin-milter right away (but this lacks the many options amavis provides for handling spam/viral messages) >=20 > CHeers >=20 > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Mustafa N. Deeb > Technical Director > Palnet Communications Ltd. > Tel: +970-2-2403434 > Fax: +970-2-2403430 > www.palsms.com > www.paltime.net > www.palnet.com >=20 Buki --=20 PGP public key: http://dev.null.cz/buki.asc /"\ \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML & Outlook Mail / \ http://www.thebackrow.net --cWoXeonUoKmBZSoM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFAF7DSPzhIkpLLm08RAjJXAJ40q3CLyKk7eKLxmMd7phOk/OaO4ACgsH9N pET9MMUAuyZIY6O+6SC58NA= =Iigf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --cWoXeonUoKmBZSoM-- From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 07:50:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A72916A4CE for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 07:50:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from otter3.centtech.com (moat3.centtech.com [207.200.51.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D8FC43D1D for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 07:50:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from centtech.com (neutrino.centtech.com [10.177.171.220]) by otter3.centtech.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id i0SFoaE8066386; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 09:50:36 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Message-ID: <4017DA30.5000001@centtech.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 09:50:08 -0600 From: Eric Anderson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20040121 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mustafa@palnet.com References: <066701c3e967$731dec30$8d00000a@felfel> In-Reply-To: <066701c3e967$731dec30$8d00000a@felfel> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: 'David Wolfskill' cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recommendation for "antivirus" software (MTA is qmail) X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 15:50:39 -0000 Mustafa N. Deeb wrote: > Hello Eric > > Are you utilizing Milter support in sendmail? Nope -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Eric Anderson Sr. Systems Administrator Centaur Technology Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday. ------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 17:49:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC99916A4CE; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 17:49:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from corbulon.video-collage.com (corbulon.video-collage.com [64.35.99.179]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DE8743D2D; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 17:49:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from 250-217.customer.cloud9.net (195-11.customer.cloud9.net [168.100.195.11])i0T1nMaT063685 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 28 Jan 2004 20:49:23 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from localhost (mteterin@localhost [127.0.0.1]) i0T1n2w3009775; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 20:49:09 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com) From: mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com Organization: Murex N.A. To: net@FreeBSD.org Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 20:49:02 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200401282049.02320@misha-mx.virtual-estates.net> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 cc: isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: jumbo-frames on the network X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 01:49:26 -0000 Hello! Some newer machines on our FreeBSD/Linux/Windows network have 1000BaseT network cards capable of jumbo frames up to 16K (mostly em(4)). They are plugged into a big switch, which supports jumbo frames up to 9K on each port. However, when I try to crank the MTU up on this machines (up to the switch's limitation), weird things start happening -- mostly NFS problems. I can login to a remote host (wich has MTU of 1500), but it will not be able to access the NFS partitions exported by a jumbo-frames enhanced box. Can different MTUs be mixed on the same wire -- in theory (who is to do the fragmentation?) and in practice -- or do we need to isolate these machines on a subnet of their own (so that they can keep fast-talking to each other) and put something dual-homed between them and the rest of the network? Do the logins just work because no packet exceeds 1500 anyway? Thanks for any advice! -mi From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 00:56:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00A5716A4CE for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 00:56:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from slave1.pzinternet.com (ns1.pzinternet.com [66.199.131.169]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5740E43D2D for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 00:55:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ap296@pzinternet.com) Received: (qmail 37856 invoked by uid 1014); 29 Jan 2004 08:59:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO shiduron) (216.232.87.238) by slave1.pzinternet.com with SMTP; 29 Jan 2004 08:59:18 -0000 From: "ap296" To: Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 00:55:52 -0800 Message-ID: <001801c3e645$b2fcf500$6602a8c0@shiduron> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20040127181820.GJ323@frecnocpc2.noc.egation.com> Subject: RE: Recommendation for "antivirus" software (MTA is qmail) X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 08:56:00 -0000 Consider outsourcing to a professional organization that can keep up with updates and trends which constantly change -- that specialize in this sort of thing. I recommend www.postini.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of David Wolfskill Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 10:18 AM To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Recommendation for "antivirus" software (MTA is qmail) My boss, who persists in using a M$-based desktop, wants me to install an "antivirus solution" on our mail server. In fairness, he also wants to reduce the expose to (and from) our customers (many of whom also run such systems). The MTA we currently use is qmail on a system running FreeBSD 4.8. As far as I can tell, that is for its ease of integration with vpopmail. As far as this message is concerned, I am being agnostic with respect to the choice of qmail for the MTA; it was made prior to the start of my tenure here, and I am unwilling to make a change if I believe that the result will not be worth the effort and disruption. A small bit of background: my employer is a nascent ISP, with a fair amount of emphasis on use of wireless (well, radio) technology. It would be useful to be able to also get some spam-avoidance capability along with this. That said, several of our salient resources are limited. A quick look around the Web shows some plausible-looking contenders; what I seek are real-life experiences with these (or similar) products, or other aspects that may not be immediately obvious from reading the promotional material on the Web sites: * qmail-scanner, clamav, and spamassassin http://clamav.elektrapro.com/doc/FreeBSD-HowTo/qmail-scanner-how-to.html * Dr.Web for UNIX systems http://www.dials.ru/english/dsav_toolkit/drwebunix.htm [Also at http://www.advancedforce.com/antivirus/av_unixms.html ?] * RAV AntiVirus http://www.ravantivirus.com/pages/isp.php * Vexira Antivirus for Mail servers FreeBSD edition http://www.ti.com.pl/antivirus.php?s=vexira&d=products&w=details&pid=8 * AntiVir http://www.hbedv.com/ * Sophos PureMessage http://www.sophos.com/products/pm/ Each of the above (save the first) appears to be a commercial product. We are open -- in principle -- to any solution, whether free or fee. Thanks! (in advance) Peace, david -- David H. Wolfskill david@egation.com _______________________________________________ freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 06:40:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16D1A16A4CE for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 06:40:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx01.bsinet.net (mx01.bsinet.net [63.175.65.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3338043D2F for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 06:40:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eshabot@bsinet.net) Received: (qmail 96750 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2004 14:38:54 -0000 Received: from node-423a192a.mdw.onnet.us.uu.net (HELO stranger) ([66.58.25.42]) (envelope-sender ) by mx01.bsinet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 29 Jan 2004 14:38:54 -0000 X-AntiVirus: Checked by Dr.Web (http://www.drweb.net) Message-ID: <009901c3e676$04acaaa0$0201a8c0@stranger> From: "Edward Shabotinsky" To: References: <001801c3e645$b2fcf500$6602a8c0@shiduron> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 08:41:45 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: Re: Recommendation for "antivirus" software (MTA is qmail) X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 14:40:52 -0000 Running Dr.Web with qmail-ldap for allmost 3 years on fbsd - no problem over 10000 mail accounts. ----- Original Message ----- From: "ap296" To: Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 02:55 Subject: RE: Recommendation for "antivirus" software (MTA is qmail) > > Consider outsourcing to a professional organization that can keep up with > updates and trends which constantly change -- that specialize in this sort > of thing. > > I recommend www.postini.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org] > On Behalf Of David Wolfskill > Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 10:18 AM > To: isp@freebsd.org > Subject: Recommendation for "antivirus" software (MTA is qmail) > > > My boss, who persists in using a M$-based desktop, wants me to install > an "antivirus solution" on our mail server. In fairness, he also wants > to reduce the expose to (and from) our customers (many of whom also run > such systems). > > The MTA we currently use is qmail on a system running FreeBSD 4.8. > As far as I can tell, that is for its ease of integration with > vpopmail. As far as this message is concerned, I am being agnostic > with respect to the choice of qmail for the MTA; it was made prior > to the start of my tenure here, and I am unwilling to make a change > if I believe that the result will not be worth the effort and > disruption. > > A small bit of background: my employer is a nascent ISP, with a fair > amount of emphasis on use of wireless (well, radio) technology. > > It would be useful to be able to also get some spam-avoidance capability > along with this. That said, several of our salient resources are limited. > > A quick look around the Web shows some plausible-looking contenders; > what I seek are real-life experiences with these (or similar) products, > or other aspects that may not be immediately obvious from reading the > promotional material on the Web sites: > > * qmail-scanner, clamav, and spamassassin > http://clamav.elektrapro.com/doc/FreeBSD-HowTo/qmail-scanner-how-to.html > > * Dr.Web for UNIX systems > http://www.dials.ru/english/dsav_toolkit/drwebunix.htm > [Also at http://www.advancedforce.com/antivirus/av_unixms.html ?] > > * RAV AntiVirus > http://www.ravantivirus.com/pages/isp.php > > * Vexira Antivirus for Mail servers FreeBSD edition > http://www.ti.com.pl/antivirus.php?s=vexira&d=products&w=details&pid=8 > > * AntiVir > http://www.hbedv.com/ > > * Sophos PureMessage > http://www.sophos.com/products/pm/ > > Each of the above (save the first) appears to be a commercial product. > We are open -- in principle -- to any solution, whether free or fee. > > Thanks! (in advance) > > Peace, > david > -- > David H. Wolfskill david@egation.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 07:33:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BECB16A4CE for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 07:33:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from emperor.oregonvos.net (emperor.oregonvos.net [159.121.170.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 086E543D1D for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 07:33:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcus.beaman@state.or.us) Received: from mail.class.OregonVOS.net (fc.oregonvos.net [159.121.16.130]) i0TFXH3u008898 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 07:33:17 -0800 Message-id: Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 07:33:15 -0800 To: "'FreeBSD ISP List'" From: "Marcus Beaman" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--=_--01959c46.01953edd.bc3e67bb" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: VOIP/Asterisk/Zaptel hardware for *BSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 15:33:21 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----=_--01959c46.01953edd.bc3e67bb Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" <=21DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC =22-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN=22> ____________ [1]freebsd-hackers=40free= bsd.org mailing list [2]http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hack= ers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe=40freebs= d.org" All, I'm posting this here because I think a number of you may be interested in<= br> seeing a strong open source VOIP solution for FreeBSD. 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2004 07:36:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from emperor.oregonvos.net (emperor.oregonvos.net [159.121.170.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 502C443D1F for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 07:36:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcus.beaman@state.or.us) Received: from mail.class.OregonVOS.net (fc.oregonvos.net [159.121.16.130]) i0TFaQ3u009306 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 07:36:27 -0800 Message-id: Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 07:36:25 -0800 To: "'FreeBSD ISP List'" From: "Marcus Beaman" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--=_--01959c6c.01953f90.bc3e6879" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: VOIP/Asterisk/Zaptel hardware for *BSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 15:36:40 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----=_--01959c6c.01953f90.bc3e6879 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" <=21DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC =22-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN=22> ____________ [1]freebsd-hackers=40free= bsd.org mailing list [2]http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hack= ers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe=40freebs= d.org" All, I'm posting this here because I think a number of you may be interested in<= br> seeing a strong open source VOIP solution for FreeBSD. 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2004 09:09:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from anna.mysmt.net (ns1.mysmt.net [217.8.108.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FFD143D2F for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 09:09:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from erik@microcontroller.nl) Received: (qmail 11625 invoked by uid 89); 29 Jan 2004 17:09:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.14?) (213.84.50.76) by ns1.mysmt.net with SMTP; 29 Jan 2004 17:09:27 -0000 From: "Erik @ Microcontroller.nl" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-Id: <1075396167.5332.101.camel@tessa.mysmt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 (1.4.5-7) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 18:09:27 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: traceroute X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 17:09:31 -0000 Hi, I'm having a bit trouble with my freebsd/zebra router, it doesn't respond to traceroute commands. my firewall is open, I only have the IPFW options enabled in the kernel. I think it doesn't return a "time exceeded" message. Could any one help with why this would be? -Erik. From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 13:17:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A005D16A4CE for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 13:17:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mg3.xecu.net (mg3.xecu.net [216.127.136.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3ED443D39 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 13:17:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andy@xecu.net) Received: by mg3.xecu.net (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 3DBFE3DB6AA; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 16:15:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from thunder.xecu.net (thunder.xecu.net [216.127.136.208]) by mg3.xecu.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8A973DB6A6; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 16:15:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 16:15:30 -0500 (EST) From: Andy Dills To: ap296 In-Reply-To: <001801c3e645$b2fcf500$6602a8c0@shiduron> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Recommendation for "antivirus" software (MTA is qmail) X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 21:17:16 -0000 On Thu, 29 Jan 2004, ap296 wrote: > > Consider outsourcing to a professional organization that can keep up with > updates and trends which constantly change -- that specialize in this sort > of thing. > > I recommend www.postini.com For what it's worth, postini is designed for two sorts of companies: Company A: Tons of money, nothing to do with it. Company B: No knowlegde of how to run unix servers. Honestly, anybody who considers themselves competent whatsoever at a command line who also pays postini their ridiculous monthly fees, is wasting a considerable amount of money. Amavisd-new has made implementing top-notch virus and spam filtering trivial. Heck, it even has the ability to lookup per-recipient filtering policies and whitelists/blacklists in a mysql database, an absolutely essential component for ISPs. Andy --- Andy Dills Xecunet, Inc. www.xecu.net 301-682-9972 --- From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 15:37:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB37916A4D2 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 15:37:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from psknet.com (kennedy.psknet.com [63.171.251.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAA8143D31 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 15:37:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from troy@psknet.com) Received: from dilbert.psknet.com ([63.171.251.35] helo=dilbert) by psknet.com with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AmLjJ-000JYf-TY for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 18:37:49 -0500 From: "Troy Settle" To: "'FreeBSD ISP List'" Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 18:37:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5329 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Thread-Index: AcPmsAnTSngayBGvSE2C5WJckIgDRwAEH7dg In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Subject: RE: Recommendation for "antivirus" software (MTA is qmail) X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 23:37:55 -0000 Andy, I take exception to your statements. I fit neither under A nor B. I figured it like this... I could spend $35k/year + to hire a postmaster to keep up the spam/virus battle on our mail server, or I could pay Postini less than $10k/year to do the same. I have not the time myself to do this, and $25k/year or more is more than enough reason to go with a commercial solution for spam/virus filtering. In addition, Postini catches MUCH more spam than any open source solution I had previously looked at. It's not perfect by any means, but more effective than anything I've seen in the open source arena. -- Troy Settle Pulaski Networks http://www.psknet.com 540.994.4254 ~ 866.477.5638 Pulaski Chamber 2002 Small Business Of The Year > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Andy Dills > Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 4:16 PM > To: ap296 > Cc: isp@freebsd.org > Subject: RE: Recommendation for "antivirus" software (MTA is qmail) > > On Thu, 29 Jan 2004, ap296 wrote: > > > > > Consider outsourcing to a professional organization that > can keep up with > > updates and trends which constantly change -- that > specialize in this sort > > of thing. > > > > I recommend www.postini.com > > For what it's worth, postini is designed for two sorts of companies: > > Company A: Tons of money, nothing to do with it. > Company B: No knowlegde of how to run unix servers. > > Honestly, anybody who considers themselves competent whatsoever at a > command line who also pays postini their ridiculous monthly fees, is > wasting a considerable amount of money. > > Amavisd-new has made implementing top-notch virus and spam filtering > trivial. Heck, it even has the ability to lookup > per-recipient filtering > policies and whitelists/blacklists in a mysql database, an absolutely > essential component for ISPs. > > Andy > > --- > Andy Dills > Xecunet, Inc. > www.xecu.net > 301-682-9972 > --- > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 18:22:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C498916A4CE for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 18:22:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (u46n208.hfx.eastlink.ca [24.222.46.208]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA74F43D45 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 18:22:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B84E635A81; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 22:18:30 -0400 (AST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5CDC35805; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 22:18:30 -0400 (AST) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 22:18:30 -0400 (AST) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: Troy Settle In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040129221626.Y6922@ganymede.hub.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: 'FreeBSD ISP List' Subject: RE: Recommendation for "antivirus" software (MTA is qmail) X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 02:22:21 -0000 On Thu, 29 Jan 2004, Troy Settle wrote: > > Andy, > > I take exception to your statements. I fit neither under A nor B. > > I figured it like this... I could spend $35k/year + to hire a postmaster to > keep up the spam/virus battle on our mail server, or I could pay Postini > less than $10k/year to do the same. I take exception to this ... I run >150 seperate mail servers, each configured either with/without anti-spam/virus software on it, and spend *maybe* an hour a month worrying about it. Anti-virus signatures are all auto-updated (in my case, 4 times a day), and anti-spam software doesn't change that often ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 20:29:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23AF016A4CE for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 20:29:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp2.nap.net.id (smtp2.nap.net.id [202.59.163.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D087643D2F for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 20:29:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hilman@nap.net.id) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2.nap.net.id (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E03A7972 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 11:36:56 +0700 (JVT) Received: from smtp2.nap.net.id ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp2.nap.net.id [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25760-09 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 11:36:55 +0700 (JVT) Received: from hilman (FreeBSD.is.the.best.operating.system.for.nap.net.id [202.59.163.78]) by smtp2.nap.net.id (Postfix) with SMTP id 87E55796D for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 11:36:55 +0700 (JVT) Message-ID: <016901c3e6eb$01201a50$4ea33bca@hilman> From: To: Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 11:39:10 +0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at smtp2.nap.net.id X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 05:37:11 -0800 Subject: Network monitoring tools with good reports X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 04:29:56 -0000 Hello all, Any body know what best software suitable for ISP for network monitoring systems that having very good reporting systems including daily, weekly, monthly. regards, _______________________________________________ Hilman Firmansyah Annex Building Suite 101 AB Plaza Kuningan Jl. H.R Rasuna Said Kav C 11 - 14 Jakarta 12940 Telp. : (021) 2528888 Fax. : (021) 2525555 mobile: 08121073702 http://www.nap.net.id From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 21:19:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A266016A4CE for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 21:19:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from webmail.akwireless.net (webmail.akwireless.net [192.189.218.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E16C343D1F for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 21:19:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dee@akwireless.net) Received: (qmail 28961 invoked by uid 1020); 30 Jan 2004 05:19:26 -0000 Received: from dee@akwireless.net by webmail by uid 1006 with qmail-scanner-1.20 (clamscan: 0.65. Clear:RC:1(127.0.0.1):. Processed in 0.02848 secs); 30 Jan 2004 05:19:26 -0000 X-Scanner-AKW-Mail-From: dee@akwireless.net via webmail X-Scanner-AKW: 1.20 (Clear:RC:1(127.0.0.1):. Processed in 0.02848 secs) Received: from unknown (HELO papa.wdm-lan) (127.0.0.1) by 0 with SMTP; 30 Jan 2004 05:19:25 -0000 From: "W.D.McKinney" To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1075440628.17090.880.camel@papa.wdm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Rubber Turnip www.usr-local-bin.org Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 20:30:29 -0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: Recommendation for "antivirus" software (MTA is qmail) X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 05:19:28 -0000 On Thu, 2004-01-29 at 14:37, Troy Settle wrote: > Andy, > > I take exception to your statements. I fit neither under A nor B. > I guess only the experienced walk with a limp. > I figured it like this... I could spend $35k/year + to hire a postmaster to > keep up the spam/virus battle on our mail server, or I could pay Postini > less than $10k/year to do the same. > I spend even less and just put a Barracuda in front our MTA. Lovely results, unless of course you haven't tried one. > I have not the time myself to do this, and $25k/year or more is more than > enough reason to go with a commercial solution for spam/virus filtering. > > In addition, Postini catches MUCH more spam than any open source solution I > had previously looked at. It's not perfect by any means, but more effective > than anything I've seen in the open source arena. > Hard to comment on what you haven't tried. I have received many complaints from customers who use Postini, so it is as you say, not perfect, and nor is any any other option. So rather than pay Postini and have nothing at the end of the day, I went with Barracuda. WDM Alaska Wireless Systems > -- > Troy Settle > Pulaski Networks > http://www.psknet.com > 540.994.4254 ~ 866.477.5638 > Pulaski Chamber 2002 Small Business Of The Year > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Andy Dills > > Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 4:16 PM > > To: ap296 > > Cc: isp@freebsd.org > > Subject: RE: Recommendation for "antivirus" software (MTA is qmail) > > > > On Thu, 29 Jan 2004, ap296 wrote: > > > > > > > > Consider outsourcing to a professional organization that > > can keep up with > > > updates and trends which constantly change -- that > > specialize in this sort > > > of thing. > > > > > > I recommend www.postini.com > > > > For what it's worth, postini is designed for two sorts of companies: > > > > Company A: Tons of money, nothing to do with it. > > Company B: No knowlegde of how to run unix servers. > > > > Honestly, anybody who considers themselves competent whatsoever at a > > command line who also pays postini their ridiculous monthly fees, is > > wasting a considerable amount of money. > > > > Amavisd-new has made implementing top-notch virus and spam filtering > > trivial. Heck, it even has the ability to lookup > > per-recipient filtering > > policies and whitelists/blacklists in a mysql database, an absolutely > > essential component for ISPs. > > > > Andy > > > > --- > > Andy Dills > > Xecunet, Inc. > > www.xecu.net > > 301-682-9972 > > --- > > From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 22:10:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95B3616A4CE for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 22:10:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mg3.xecu.net (mg3.xecu.net [216.127.136.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A71443D41 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 22:10:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andy@xecu.net) Received: by mg3.xecu.net (Postfix, from userid 1003) id A78BE3DB65F; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 01:10:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from thunder.xecu.net (thunder.xecu.net [216.127.136.208]) by mg3.xecu.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53C633DB758; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 01:10:28 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 01:10:28 -0500 (EST) From: Andy Dills To: Troy Settle In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: 'FreeBSD ISP List' Subject: RE: Recommendation for "antivirus" software (MTA is qmail) X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 06:10:30 -0000 On Thu, 29 Jan 2004, Troy Settle wrote: > > Andy, > > I take exception to your statements. I fit neither under A nor B. > > I figured it like this... I could spend $35k/year + to hire a postmaster to > keep up the spam/virus battle on our mail server, or I could pay Postini > less than $10k/year to do the same. > > I have not the time myself to do this, and $25k/year or more is more than > enough reason to go with a commercial solution for spam/virus filtering. > > In addition, Postini catches MUCH more spam than any open source solution I > had previously looked at. It's not perfect by any means, but more effective > than anything I've seen in the open source arena. Troy, I respect you a lot. I didn't mean to imply as much as my words did. I beg you, please read http://www.flakshack.com/anti-spam/ Even if you don't use OpenBSD, the rest is the same. You'll find, once you try out amavisd-new with spamassassin and clamav (which includes freshclam, an auto-update daemon...they had published the updates for the latest worm within hours), that you'll strongly reconsider postini. You won't need to pay a postmaster. I know you're more than competent enough to implement this. The thing about spamassassin is, people won't complain. It's amazingly accuracte (99% for me), and amavisd makes applying per-user preferences a snap. You may need to move to a distributed mail environment if you aren't already, but the price of a couple of servers quickly pays for itself. And trust me, it's very hands off. People rarely have problems with it, and if they do, they have personal sender whitelists (which hopefully you would implement an interface to in your online account management). I'm not talking about taking on $35k/year for a postmaster. I'm talking about going to a $0/year spam expense (beyond bandwidth). I'm talking about eliminating the spam and virus problem simply by throwing hardware at spamassassin/clamav. Ridiculously powerful servers are available for amazing prices. And with the secondary market the way it is...you could spend $10k, get a used Netapp (F740), a Foundry L4 loadbalancing switch (search for 'serveriron' on ebay), and 4 new (scsi) mail servers. $10k one time expense, and you could efficiently scan over ten million messages per day. How much do you pay Postini? And I promise you that you will be amazed at how it performs. Andy --- Andy Dills Xecunet, Inc. www.xecu.net 301-682-9972 --- From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 30 05:44:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1714316A4CF for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 05:44:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.digidoc.com (smtp.digidoc.com [62.20.119.172]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2F43B43D1D for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 05:43:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from henrik.lidstrom@digidoc.com) Received: (from heab416 [62.20.119.153]) by smtp.digidoc.com (SAVSMTP 3.1.0.29) with SMTP id M2004013015061208947 ; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 15:06:12 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Henrik_Lidstr=F6m?= To: , Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 14:44:13 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <016901c3e6eb$01201a50$4ea33bca@hilman> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Subject: SV: Network monitoring tools with good reports X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: henrik.lidstrom@digidoc.com List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 13:44:00 -0000 Have you checked out Nagios? http://www.nagios.org /Henrik -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org]För hilman@nap.net.id Skickat: den 30 januari 2004 05:39 Till: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Ämne: Network monitoring tools with good reports Hello all, Any body know what best software suitable for ISP for network monitoring systems that having very good reporting systems including daily, weekly, monthly. regards, _______________________________________________ Hilman Firmansyah Annex Building Suite 101 AB Plaza Kuningan Jl. H.R Rasuna Said Kav C 11 - 14 Jakarta 12940 Telp. : (021) 2528888 Fax. : (021) 2525555 mobile: 08121073702 http://www.nap.net.id _______________________________________________ freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 31 01:58:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 978F116A4CE for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2004 01:58:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.palnet.com (mail.palnet.com [217.66.226.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4270B43D39 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2004 01:58:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mustafa@palnet.com) Received: from felfel (dogbert.palnet.com [192.116.17.51]) by mail.palnet.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id i0V9pIwm039691; Sat, 31 Jan 2004 11:51:24 +0200 (IST) From: "Mustafa N. Deeb" To: "'Edward Shabotinsky'" , Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 12:59:59 +0200 Organization: Palnet Communications Ltd. Message-ID: <058e01c3e7e9$678595f0$8d00000a@felfel> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 In-Reply-To: <009901c3e676$04acaaa0$0201a8c0@stranger> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Recommendation for "antivirus" software (MTA is qmail) X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mustafa@palnet.com List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 09:58:20 -0000 How does their license work? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mustafa N. Deeb Technical Director Palnet Communications Ltd. Tel: +970-2-2403434 Fax: +970-2-2403430 www.palsms.com www.paltime.net www.palnet.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Edward Shabotinsky Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 4:42 PM To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recommendation for "antivirus" software (MTA is qmail) Running Dr.Web with qmail-ldap for allmost 3 years on fbsd - no problem over 10000 mail accounts. ----- Original Message ----- From: "ap296" To: Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 02:55 Subject: RE: Recommendation for "antivirus" software (MTA is qmail) > > Consider outsourcing to a professional organization that can keep up with > updates and trends which constantly change -- that specialize in this sort > of thing. > > I recommend www.postini.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org] > On Behalf Of David Wolfskill > Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 10:18 AM > To: isp@freebsd.org > Subject: Recommendation for "antivirus" software (MTA is qmail) > > > My boss, who persists in using a M$-based desktop, wants me to install > an "antivirus solution" on our mail server. In fairness, he also wants > to reduce the expose to (and from) our customers (many of whom also run > such systems). > > The MTA we currently use is qmail on a system running FreeBSD 4.8. > As far as I can tell, that is for its ease of integration with > vpopmail. As far as this message is concerned, I am being agnostic > with respect to the choice of qmail for the MTA; it was made prior > to the start of my tenure here, and I am unwilling to make a change > if I believe that the result will not be worth the effort and > disruption. > > A small bit of background: my employer is a nascent ISP, with a fair > amount of emphasis on use of wireless (well, radio) technology. > > It would be useful to be able to also get some spam-avoidance capability > along with this. That said, several of our salient resources are limited. > > A quick look around the Web shows some plausible-looking contenders; > what I seek are real-life experiences with these (or similar) products, > or other aspects that may not be immediately obvious from reading the > promotional material on the Web sites: > > * qmail-scanner, clamav, and spamassassin > http://clamav.elektrapro.com/doc/FreeBSD-HowTo/qmail-scanner-how-to.html > > * Dr.Web for UNIX systems > http://www.dials.ru/english/dsav_toolkit/drwebunix.htm > [Also at http://www.advancedforce.com/antivirus/av_unixms.html ?] > > * RAV AntiVirus > http://www.ravantivirus.com/pages/isp.php > > * Vexira Antivirus for Mail servers FreeBSD edition > http://www.ti.com.pl/antivirus.php?s=vexira&d=products&w=details&pid=8 > > * AntiVir > http://www.hbedv.com/ > > * Sophos PureMessage > http://www.sophos.com/products/pm/ > > Each of the above (save the first) appears to be a commercial product. > We are open -- in principle -- to any solution, whether free or fee. > > Thanks! (in advance) > > Peace, > david > -- > David H. Wolfskill david@egation.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 3 08:26:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 281D316A4CE for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2004 08:26:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from web40709.mail.yahoo.com (web40709.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.78.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4F90643D1D for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2004 08:26:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rtsit@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20040203162633.63832.qmail@web40709.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.232.87.238] by web40709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 03 Feb 2004 08:26:33 PST Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 08:26:33 -0800 (PST) From: rtsit To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: FreeBSD problem with Apache 2.0.48 and php4.3.4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2004 16:26:38 -0000 On a FreeBSD box, with 256 meg RAM, and a 1.7 Gig processor, we have about 300 virtualdomain sites running on.. Apache 2.0.48 and php4.34 I know memory is a bit low, but we're not really hitting swap yet. Load avg is 0.10, 0.19, 0.22 Web directories mounted by NFS share... The problem we're having is that everything works great. PHP pages get server-parsed by Apache, etc. Out of every 30 or 40 page loads, all of a sudden some PHP code is no longer webserver parsed and gets dumped to STDOUT. (using IE6, you can go to VIEW/SOURCE and see raw php code). Simplying hitting reload/refresh works, and then everything magically goes back to normal again, until another few minutes where raw php code gets dumped again. Since this is going to freebsd-isp I figured someone may have seen this type of behavior before. Maybe this helps? ipcs -a ; sysctl vm.zone Message Queues: T ID KEY MODE OWNER GROUP CREATOR CGROUP CBYTES QNUM QBYTES LSPID LRPID STIME RTIME CTIME Shared Memory: T ID KEY MODE OWNER GROUP CREATOR CGROUP NATTCH SEGSZ CPID LPID ATIME DTIME CTIME Semaphores: T ID KEY MODE OWNER GROUP CREATOR CGROUP NSEMS OTIME CTIME vm.zone: ITEM SIZE LIMIT USED FREE REQUESTS PIPE: 160, 0, 27, 993, 1057864 SWAPMETA: 160, 30878, 274, 1825, 4868 unpcb: 160, 0, 18, 132, 16258 ripcb: 192, 3944, 0, 42, 43 syncache: 160, 15359, 0, 76, 427479 tcpcb: 576, 3944, 256, 177, 499562 udpcb: 192, 3944, 3, 39, 111791 socket: 192, 3944, 277, 192, 627655 KNOTE: 64, 0, 0, 128, 76899 DIRHASH: 1024, 0, 54, 482, 9235 NFSNODE: 352, 0, 15800, 194, 2269784 NFSMOUNT: 544, 0, 1, 6, 1 VNODE: 192, 0, 16420, 116, 16420 NAMEI: 1024, 0, 0, 40, 63394549 VMSPACE: 192, 0, 89, 935, 500459 PROC: 416, 0, 95, 885, 500465 DP fakepg: 64, 0, 0, 0, 0 PV ENTRY: 28, 521326, 66180, 347052, 2435482414 MAP ENTRY: 48, 0, 8807, 11551, 38930495 KMAP ENTRY: 48, 15735, 2082, 1032, 1090110 MAP: 108, 0, 7, 3, 7 VM OBJECT: 92, 0, 17981, 3879, 13734418 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 3 08:39:51 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71B2E16A4CE for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2004 08:39:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx2.dobleJ.net (243.Red-213-97-10.pooles.rima-tde.net [213.97.10.243]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92E5243D2F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2004 08:39:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from juanjo.listas@dobleJ.net) X-Server: Reenviado vía mx2.dobleJ.net From: Juan Jose Sanchez Mesa To: X-Mailer: PocoMail 3.03 (1740) - Licensed Version Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 17:39:36 +0100 Message-ID: <200423173936.773973@juanjo> In-Reply-To: <20040203162633.63832.qmail@web40709.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: FreeBSD problem with Apache 2.0.48 and php4.3.4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2004 16:39:51 -0000 It's a PHP know bug. Update to the last CVS. http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=3D25753 En fecha Tue, 3 Feb 2004 08:26:33 -0800 (PST), rtsit escribi=F3: > > On a FreeBSD box, with 256 meg RAM, and a 1.7 Gig > processor, we have about 300 virtualdomain sites > running on.. > > Apache 2.0.48 and php4.34 > > I know memory is a bit low, but we're not really > hitting swap yet. Load avg is 0.10, 0.19, 0.22 > > Web directories mounted by NFS share... > > The problem we're having is that everything works > great. PHP pages get server-parsed by Apache, etc. > > Out of every 30 or 40 page loads, all of a sudden some > PHP code is no longer webserver parsed and gets dumped > to STDOUT. (using IE6, you can go to VIEW/SOURCE and > see raw php code). > > Simplying hitting reload/refresh works, and then > everything magically goes back to normal again, until > another few minutes where raw php code gets dumped > again. > > Since this is going to freebsd-isp I figured someone > may have seen this type of behavior before. > > Maybe this helps? > > ipcs -a ; sysctl vm.zone > Message Queues: > T ID KEY MODE OWNER GROUP > CREATOR CGROUP CBYTES QNUM QBYTES LSPID LRPID > STIME RTIME CTIME > > Shared Memory: > T ID KEY MODE OWNER GROUP > CREATOR CGROUP NATTCH SEGSZ CPID LPID ATIME > DTIME CTIME > > Semaphores: > T ID KEY MODE OWNER GROUP > CREATOR CGROUP NSEMS OTIME CTIME > > vm.zone: > ITEM SIZE LIMIT USED FREE > REQUESTS > > PIPE: 160, 0, 27, 993, > 1057864 > SWAPMETA: 160, 30878, 274, 1825, > 4868 > unpcb: 160, 0, 18, 132, > 16258 > ripcb: 192, 3944, 0, 42, > 43 > syncache: 160, 15359, 0, 76, > 427479 > tcpcb: 576, 3944, 256, 177, > 499562 > udpcb: 192, 3944, 3, 39, > 111791 > socket: 192, 3944, 277, 192, > 627655 > KNOTE: 64, 0, 0, 128, > 76899 > DIRHASH: 1024, 0, 54, 482, > 9235 > NFSNODE: 352, 0, 15800, 194, > 2269784 > NFSMOUNT: 544, 0, 1, 6, > 1 > VNODE: 192, 0, 16420, 116, > 16420 > NAMEI: 1024, 0, 0, 40, > 63394549 > VMSPACE: 192, 0, 89, 935, > 500459 > PROC: 416, 0, 95, 885, > 500465 > DP fakepg: 64, 0, 0, 0, > 0 > PV ENTRY: 28, 521326, 66180, 347052, > 2435482414 > MAP ENTRY: 48, 0, 8807, 11551, > 38930495 > KMAP ENTRY: 48, 15735, 2082, 1032, > 1090110 > MAP: 108, 0, 7, 3, > 7 > VM OBJECT: 92, 0, 17981, 3879, 13734418 > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! 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Try it! > http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 5 13:05:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1DE816A4CE for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2004 13:05:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.sopris.net (mail.sopris.net [216.237.72.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7F9743D67 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2004 13:05:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bplimpton@sopris.net) Received: from mail.sopris.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.sopris.net (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id i15L5Ux0087654 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2004 14:05:30 -0700 (MST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by mail.sopris.net (8.12.1/8.12.1/Submit) id i15L5TMs087649 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Thu, 5 Feb 2004 14:05:30 -0700 (MST) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.sopris.net: nobody set sender to bplimpton@sopris.net using -f To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1076015129.4022b019edef1@webmail.sopris.net> Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2004 14:05:29 -0700 (MST) From: bplimpton@sopris.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.7 X-Originating-IP: 216.237.74.2 Subject: Releasing ports bound to a specific IP X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2004 21:05:34 -0000 Hello all I’m installing snort and using acid as a front end. The database is mysql. Everything is installed from ports. Mysql started normally until I added the “–-bind-address=127.0.0.1” directive to my mysql-server.sh script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/. Now the error I receive in the hostname.err log states: Can't start server: Bind on TCP/IP port: Can't assign requested address Do you already have another mysqld server running on port: 3306 ? Aborting ps –ax dosen’t show a mysqld running netstat –an shows nothing listening on port 3306 I’ve tried changing the port number that mysqld uses to 3308 and 3310, but I still get the same error about a bind on the port. I think it has more to do with the address 127.0.0.1 than the port number. Is there as way to reset or release all the bindings on a specific address? My FreeBSD is 4.8 Snort-2.1.0 MySql – version 14.3 Distrib 5.0 for ports Acid-0.9.6b23 I’ve checked google and mysql faq’s, plus anything else I can think of. If anyone has any ideas I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks in advance Ben bplimpton@sopris.net From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 5 13:52:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6804316A4CE for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2004 13:52:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from cobra.acceleratedweb.net (cobra-gw.acceleratedweb.net [207.99.79.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 71F3C43D6A for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2004 13:51:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from simon@optinet.com) Received: (qmail 70791 invoked by uid 110); 5 Feb 2004 21:51:19 -0000 Received: from ool-18baaf5c.dyn.optonline.net (HELO win2kpc1) (24.186.175.92) by cobra.acceleratedweb.net with SMTP; 5 Feb 2004 21:51:19 -0000 From: "Simon" To: "bplimpton@sopris.net" , "freebsd-isp@freebsd.org" Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2004 16:51:05 -0500 Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.20.2661) For Windows 2000 (5.0.2195;4) In-Reply-To: <1076015129.4022b019edef1@webmail.sopris.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20040205215144.71F3C43D6A@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Re: Releasing ports bound to a specific IP X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2004 21:52:03 -0000 120.0.0.1 is a loopback interface, do you have it enabled (ifconfig -a)? I can bind mysql on it just fine on FBSD 4.9: dev:~# netstat -na Active Internet connections (including servers) Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address (state) tcp4 0 0 127.0.0.1.3306 *.* LISTEN -Simon On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 14:05:29 -0700 (MST), bplimpton@sopris.net wrote: >Hello all > >Im installing snort and using acid as a front end. The database is mysql. >Everything is installed from ports. > >Mysql started normally until I added the -bind-address=127.0.0.1 directive >to my mysql-server.sh script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/. > >Now the error I receive in the hostname.err log states: > >Can't start server: Bind on TCP/IP port: Can't assign requested address >Do you already have another mysqld server running on port: 3306 ? >Aborting > >ps ax dosent show a mysqld running >netstat an shows nothing listening on port 3306 > >Ive tried changing the port number that mysqld uses to 3308 and 3310, but I >still get the same error about a bind on the port. > >I think it has more to do with the address 127.0.0.1 than the port number. > >Is there as way to reset or release all the bindings on a specific address? >My FreeBSD is 4.8 >Snort-2.1.0 >MySql  version 14.3 Distrib 5.0 for ports >Acid-0.9.6b23 > >Ive checked google and mysql faqs, plus anything else I can think of. > >If anyone has any ideas I would greatly appreciate it. > >Thanks in advance > >Ben >bplimpton@sopris.net > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 7 04:50:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48EFA16A4EE for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2004 04:50:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA13743D1D for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2004 04:50:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.apsfilter.org) Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (localhost [IPv6:::1]) i17CoHN1047527 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2004 13:50:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.apsfilter.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost)i17CoGJV047525 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Sat, 7 Feb 2004 13:50:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.apsfilter.org) Received: from titan.klemm.apsfilter.org (localhost.klemm.apsfilter.org [127.0.0.1]) by klemm.apsfilter.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i17Cj8l6036973 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2004 13:45:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from andreas@titan.klemm.apsfilter.org) Received: (from andreas@localhost)i17Cj8t9036956 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Sat, 7 Feb 2004 13:45:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from andreas) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2004 13:45:08 +0100 From: Andreas Klemm To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040207124507.GA20305@titan.klemm.apsfilter.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.2.1-RC X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1i Subject: fbsd mgmt server, telnet through ssh tunnel to Cisco possible ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2004 12:50:21 -0000 Hi, I have a FreeBSD 5.2.1 monitoring system up and running. It uses shellscripts with netcat to login to the ciscos get some data out of it, writes results to files etc ... For these mechanism to work I need to be able to telnet to the ciscos. Unluckily I have now a bunch of Ciscos, where only ssh login is possible and where no rsh server functionality is allowed. Is it somehow possible to telnet to the ciscos via a ssh tunnel ? And without the Cisco prompting for a password ? Is there something other available than netcat to make batched data collection scripts to ciscos possible on a ssh basis ??? Any recommendations that could work ? Currently I use something like this for cisco in $* do nc [options] $cisco > /some/path/sh-run/$cisco-confg < http://www.apsfilter.org/ From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 7 04:56:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0106216A4D0 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2004 04:56:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from anna.mysmt.net (ns1.mysmt.net [217.8.108.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E06843D1F for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2004 04:56:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from erik@microcontroller.nl) Received: (qmail 18939 invoked by uid 89); 7 Feb 2004 12:56:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.0.6?) (microcon@microcontroller.nl@212.238.210.243) by ns1.mysmt.net with SMTP; 7 Feb 2004 12:56:55 -0000 From: "Erik @ MicroController.nl" To: Andreas Klemm In-Reply-To: <20040207124507.GA20305@titan.klemm.apsfilter.org> References: <20040207124507.GA20305@titan.klemm.apsfilter.org> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1076158620.5859.43.camel@ina.mysmt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 (1.4.5-7) Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2004 13:57:00 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fbsd mgmt server, telnet through ssh tunnel to Cisco possible ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2004 12:56:58 -0000 see ssh key's and the man page of ssh-keygen -Erik. On Sat, 2004-02-07 at 13:45, Andreas Klemm wrote: > Hi, > > I have a FreeBSD 5.2.1 monitoring system up and running. > It uses shellscripts with netcat to login to the ciscos > get some data out of it, writes results to files etc ... > For these mechanism to work I need to be able to telnet to the > ciscos. > > Unluckily I have now a bunch of Ciscos, where only ssh login > is possible and where no rsh server functionality is allowed. > > Is it somehow possible to telnet to the ciscos via a ssh tunnel ? > And without the Cisco prompting for a password ? > > Is there something other available than netcat to make > batched data collection scripts to ciscos possible on a > ssh basis ??? > > Any recommendations that could work ? > > Currently I use something like this > > for cisco in $* > do > nc [options] $cisco > /some/path/sh-run/$cisco-confg < password > ena > password > sh runn > quit > !EOS > done > > How can I get this via ssh ??? > > And best without having to enter a password, so that it can > be executed via cron on a regulary basis .... ?! > > Andreas /// -- -Erik. -- homepage: http://erik.mysmt.net Merelstraat 35bis (blackbirdstreet 35B) 3514 CM UTRECHT/Utrecht The Netherlands From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 7 06:07:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF06F16A4CE for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2004 06:07:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from enterprise.ecore.net (enterprise.ecore.net [212.223.99.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0410543D1F for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2004 06:07:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cs@cheasy.de) Received: (qmail 2054 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2004 14:07:31 -0000 Received: from p50840be8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (HELO kiste) (80.132.11.232) by cheasy.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2004 14:07:31 -0000 From: Christoph Sold To: Andreas Klemm , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2004 15:07:23 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 References: <20040207124507.GA20305@titan.klemm.apsfilter.org> In-Reply-To: <20040207124507.GA20305@titan.klemm.apsfilter.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: clearsigned data Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200402071507.27156.cs@cheasy.de> Subject: Re: fbsd mgmt server, telnet through ssh tunnel to Cisco possible ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2004 14:07:37 -0000 =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Andreas, ich schreib mal auf Deutsch und lass die Liste weg. On Saturday 07 February 2004 13:45, Andreas Klemm wrote: > Hi, > > I have a FreeBSD 5.2.1 monitoring system up and running. > [snip] > > Unluckily I have now a bunch of Ciscos, where only ssh login > is possible and where no rsh server functionality is allowed. > > Is it somehow possible to telnet to the ciscos via a ssh tunnel ? Nein. > And without the Cisco prompting for a password ? Ja. > Is there something other available than netcat to make > batched data collection scripts to ciscos possible on a > ssh basis ??? Ja. > Any recommendations that could work ? ssh-keygen f=FCr den User, der sich auf der Cisco einloggen soll. Den=20 Public Key auf die Cisco{,s} schieben -- als authorized_key. Ab sofort sollte f=FCr diesen User Login ohne Passwort per ssh m=F6glich=20 sein. danach den script nach folgendem Muster ab=E4ndern: for cisco in $* do ssh [user@]$cisco < [localinput] > [localoutput] done d.h. man kann jeden Befehl einzeln per ssh auf die Cisco schicken, dabei=20 wird In- und Output auf die eigene Maschine umgeleitet. > Currently I use something like this > > for cisco in $* > do > nc [options] $cisco > /some/path/sh-run/$cisco-confg < password > ena > password > sh runn > quit > !EOS > done > > How can I get this via ssh ??? > > And best without having to enter a password, so that it can > be executed via cron on a regulary basis .... ?! > > Andreas /// HTH =2D -Christoph Sold =2D --=20 Christoph Sold, D=F6rrhorst-Str. 23, D-67059 Ludwigshafen (Rhein) cheasy@web.de, Phone: +49-621-5723206, Handy: +49-174-5862882 =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFAJPEcjGVuYEZ1RPYRArVjAJ9r74CIKS2KpdgRqjulZGlpb5AgmwCgtIJk +4gaoISTNCHrLeT7YuDtf3o=3D =3DR3RQ =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 7 10:50:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A77016A4CE; Sat, 7 Feb 2004 10:50:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from complx.LF.net (complx.LF.net [212.9.190.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F091643D2F; Sat, 7 Feb 2004 10:50:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lists@complx.LF.net) Received: from lists by complx.LF.net with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ApXXc-0009AW-S4; Sat, 07 Feb 2004 19:50:56 +0100 Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2004 19:50:56 +0100 From: Kurt Jaeger To: Andreas Klemm Message-ID: <20040207185056.GI987@complx.LF.net> References: <20040207124507.GA20305@titan.klemm.apsfilter.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040207124507.GA20305@titan.klemm.apsfilter.org> cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fbsd mgmt server, telnet through ssh tunnel to Cisco possible ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: pi@LF.net List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2004 18:50:58 -0000 Hi! > Is it somehow possible to telnet to the ciscos via a ssh tunnel ? > And without the Cisco prompting for a password ? What about Net::SSH::Perl ? We have not used it against ciscos, but this might work as well. -- MfG/Best regards, Kurt Jaeger 16 years to go ! LF.net GmbH fon +49 711 90074-23 pi@LF.net Ruppmannstr. 27 fax +49 711 90074-33 D-70565 Stuttgart mob +49 171 3101372 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 7 11:19:04 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1C6716A4CE for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2004 11:19:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.lambertfam.org (www.lambertfam.org [216.223.208.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D70C843D1D for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2004 11:19:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lambert@lambertfam.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.lambertfam.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC85934D74 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2004 14:19:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.lambertfam.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (www.lambertfam.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 47648-07 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2004 14:19:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from laptop.lambertfam.org (ool-182db8f6.dyn.optonline.net [24.45.184.246]) by mail.lambertfam.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA3B234D7A for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2004 14:19:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by laptop.lambertfam.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 17A89C104; Sat, 7 Feb 2004 14:18:59 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2004 14:18:59 -0500 From: Scott Lambert To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040207191859.GA79635@laptop.lambertfam.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org References: <20040207124507.GA20305@titan.klemm.apsfilter.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040207124507.GA20305@titan.klemm.apsfilter.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at lambertfam.org Subject: Re: fbsd mgmt server, telnet through ssh tunnel to Cisco possible ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2004 19:19:05 -0000 On Sat, Feb 07, 2004 at 01:45:08PM +0100, Andreas Klemm wrote: > Hi, > > I have a FreeBSD 5.2.1 monitoring system up and running. > It uses shellscripts with netcat to login to the ciscos > get some data out of it, writes results to files etc ... > For these mechanism to work I need to be able to telnet to the > ciscos. > > Unluckily I have now a bunch of Ciscos, where only ssh login > is possible and where no rsh server functionality is allowed. > > Is it somehow possible to telnet to the ciscos via a ssh tunnel ? > And without the Cisco prompting for a password ? > > Is there something other available than netcat to make > batched data collection scripts to ciscos possible on a > ssh basis ??? > > Any recommendations that could work ? > > Currently I use something like this > > for cisco in $* > do > nc [options] $cisco > /some/path/sh-run/$cisco-confg < password > ena > password > sh runn > quit > !EOS > done > > How can I get this via ssh ??? Don't reinvent the wheel. /usr/ports/net/rancid clogin will connect, via ssh or telnet, to the cisco, or one of several other network gear manufaturer's devices, login and enable based on the .clogin settings. # cat /usr/ports/net/rancid/pkg-descr Rancid monitors a router's (or device's) configuration, including software and hardware (cards, serial numbers, etc), using CVS. Rancid currently supports Bay routers, Cisco routers, Juniper routers, Catalyst switches, Foundry switches, Redback NASs, ADC EZT3 muxes, MRTd (and thus likely IRRd), Alteon switches, HP procurve switches, Hitachi routers. Rancid logs into each of the devices in a router table file, runs various commands, chomps the output, and emails any differences ( sample) from the previous collection to a mail list. A looking glass is also included with rancid, based on Ed Kern's in use on http://nitrous.digex.net/. Rancid version has added functions, supports cisco, juniper, and foundry and uses the login scripts that come with rancid; so it can use rsh, telnet, or ssh to connect to your router(s). WWW: http://www.shrubbery.net/rancid/ Give it a whirl. It really works well. -- Scott Lambert KC5MLE Unix SysAdmin lambert@lambertfam.org From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 7 13:46:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20C0616A4CE; Sat, 7 Feb 2004 13:46:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from elk.hughes.com.au (elk.hughes.com.au [69.55.238.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC5FD43D1D; Sat, 7 Feb 2004 13:46:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bambi@Hughes.com.au) Received: from fawn (adsl-2-47.lo1.lns1.server-access.com [203.8.189.47] (may be forged)) by elk.hughes.com.au (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id i17LkKH7049671; Sat, 7 Feb 2004 13:46:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bambi@Hughes.com.au) Message-Id: <200402072146.i17LkKH7049671@elk.hughes.com.au> From: "David J. Hughes" To: "'Andreas Klemm'" , Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2004 07:46:13 +1000 Keywords: List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: <20040207124507.GA20305@titan.klemm.apsfilter.org> Thread-Index: AcPteRB9pI85IPdAQ8mxJhHrPvoUbwASlnoA X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Subject: RE: fbsd mgmt server, telnet through ssh tunnel to Cisco possible ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2004 21:46:28 -0000 > Is there something other available than netcat to make > batched data collection scripts to ciscos possible on a > ssh basis ??? Rancid is your friend. http://www.shrubbery.net/rancid/ Not only will you get what you are looking for (clogin) but you'll also get configuration tracking for free. Bambi ... From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 7 15:59:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FCA516A4CE for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2004 15:59:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from zoot.lafn.org (zoot.lafn.ORG [206.117.18.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E66D43D1D for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2004 15:59:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (host-66-81-196-38.rev.o1.com [66.81.196.38]) (authenticated bits=0) by zoot.lafn.org (8.12.3p3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id i17Nx2oM054109 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2004 15:59:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v612) In-Reply-To: <200402072146.i17LkKH7049671@elk.hughes.com.au> References: <200402072146.i17LkKH7049671@elk.hughes.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <99DA0402-59C9-11D8-B162-000393681B06@lafn.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Doug Hardie Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2004 15:59:01 -0800 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.612) Subject: Clamav with sendmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2004 23:59:06 -0000 I am evaluating clamav for use with sendmail and an wondering if the clamav-milter that comes with it is the best approach. There are several other milter interfaces for clamav listed in the documentation. Is there any reason to use one in preference to the others? From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 7 22:56:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BC7716A4CE for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2004 22:56:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.palnet.com (mail.palnet.com [217.66.226.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D81D643D1D for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2004 22:56:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mustafa@palnet.com) Received: from felfel (dogbert.palnet.com [192.116.17.51]) by mail.palnet.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id i186sM2k021656; Sun, 8 Feb 2004 08:54:22 +0200 (IST) From: "Mustafa N. Deeb" To: "'Doug Hardie'" , Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2004 09:58:33 +0200 Organization: Palnet Communications Ltd. Message-ID: <028801c3ee19$5ceb6670$8d00000a@felfel> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 In-Reply-To: <99DA0402-59C9-11D8-B162-000393681B06@lafn.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Clamav with sendmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mustafa@palnet.com List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2004 06:56:27 -0000 It is better if you do have a quite large number of users; running clamav through procmail would put much load on the machine ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mustafa N. Deeb Technical Director Palnet Communications Ltd. Tel: +970-2-2403434 Fax: +970-2-2403430 www.palsms.com www.paltime.net www.palnet.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Doug Hardie Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 1:59 AM To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Clamav with sendmail I am evaluating clamav for use with sendmail and an wondering if the clamav-milter that comes with it is the best approach. There are several other milter interfaces for clamav listed in the documentation. Is there any reason to use one in preference to the others? _______________________________________________ freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"