From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 18 23:12:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 439A616A4CE for ; Sun, 18 Apr 2004 23:12:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp4.wlink.com.np (smtp4.wlink.com.np [202.79.32.87]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8F3C443D2F for ; Sun, 18 Apr 2004 23:11:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bikrant_ml@wlink.com.np) Received: (qmail 24844 invoked from network); 19 Apr 2004 06:11:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qmail-scanner.wlink.com.np) (202.79.32.74) by 0 with SMTP; 19 Apr 2004 06:11:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 11743 invoked by uid 1008); 19 Apr 2004 06:11:33 -0000 Received: from bikrant_ml@wlink.com.np by qmail-scanner.wlink.com.np by uid 1002 with qmail-scanner-1.20 (clamscan: 0.60. Clear:RC:1(202.79.32.76):. Processed in 0.021225 secs); 19 Apr 2004 06:11:33 -0000 Received: from smtp1.wlink.com.np (202.79.32.76) by qmail-scanner.wlink.com.np with SMTP; 19 Apr 2004 06:11:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 20528 invoked by uid 508); 19 Apr 2004 06:11:33 -0000 Received: from [202.79.36.168] (HELO bikrant.org.np) by smtp1.wlink.com.np (qmail-smtpd) with SMTP; 19 Apr 2004 06:11:33 -0000 (Mon, 19 Apr 2004 11:56:33 +0545) From: Bikrant Neupane Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 11:56:29 +0545 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline To: questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200404191156.29962.bikrant_ml@wlink.com.np> X-Spam-Check-By: smtp1.wlink.com.np Spam: No ; 0.0 / 5.0 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 Subject: PPPoed crashed!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 06:12:12 -0000 I'm running pppoed on freebsd-4.9. It is running smoothly. However it crashes sometime with a pppoed.core file dumpped at the root directory. gdb -c pppoed.core shows that it crashed with signal 11 segmentation fault. I'm running the package as it came with the os. I have not upgraded any thing except the kernel which I have customized for my needs. Is this a bug or am i missing some parameters in the kernel? with regards, Bikrant From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 19 01:50:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1972A16A4CE; Mon, 19 Apr 2004 01:50:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (ns0.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DBC243D1F; Mon, 19 Apr 2004 01:50:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1])i3J8o136052156 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 19 Apr 2004 09:50:01 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)id i3J8o13D052155; Mon, 19 Apr 2004 09:50:01 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 09:50:01 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: Bikrant Neupane Message-ID: <20040419085001.GC51644@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , Bikrant Neupane , questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org References: <200404191156.29962.bikrant_ml@wlink.com.np> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="O3RTKUHj+75w1tg5" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200404191156.29962.bikrant_ml@wlink.com.np> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040416, clamav-milter version 0.70g X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PPPoed crashed!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 08:50:10 -0000 --O3RTKUHj+75w1tg5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Apr 19, 2004 at 11:56:29AM +0545, Bikrant Neupane wrote: > I'm running pppoed on freebsd-4.9. It is running smoothly. However it cra= shes=20 > sometime with a pppoed.core file dumpped at the root directory. > gdb -c pppoed.core shows that it crashed with signal 11 segmentation faul= t. > I'm running the package as it came with the os. I have not upgraded any t= hing=20 > except the kernel which I have customized for my needs. >=20 > Is this a bug or am i missing some parameters in the kernel? It's hard to say quite what the problem is with the small amount of information you've included. Certainly none of the software supplied with the OS should ever crash with a segmentation violation, and it's definitely a bug if that happens reproducibly. On the other hand, segmentation faults are most commonly seen as a symptom of faulty memory sticks. Crashes due to bad memory will happen quite unpredictably, although they will tend to happen more when the machine is under load and there's a lot of memory IO going on. If the crash you're seeing happens repeatably and always occurs in the same place, then it must be a programming error. In which case, please report the problem using send-pr(1). Getting a backtrace from gdb will be helpful -- as will keeping hold of the core file you have to make available to a developer should one request it. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --O3RTKUHj+75w1tg5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFAg5K5dtESqEQa7a0RApMNAJ4ooce51Tc6PIvY5T+HVWpJ87ub4QCeL0AR IUCCaV59Soh3HFP2+umevKw= =zf9d -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --O3RTKUHj+75w1tg5-- From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 19 02:39:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAB3B16A4CE; Mon, 19 Apr 2004 02:39:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cell.sick.ru (cell.sick.ru [217.72.144.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D93CC43D5A; Mon, 19 Apr 2004 02:39:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from glebius@cell.sick.ru) Received: from cell.sick.ru (glebius@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cell.sick.ru (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i3J9dXQE058311 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 19 Apr 2004 13:39:34 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from glebius@cell.sick.ru) Received: (from glebius@localhost) by cell.sick.ru (8.12.9/8.12.6/Submit) id i3J9dVlw058310; Mon, 19 Apr 2004 13:39:32 +0400 (MSD) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 13:39:31 +0400 From: Gleb Smirnoff To: Bikrant Neupane Message-ID: <20040419093931.GC58113@cell.sick.ru> References: <200404191156.29962.bikrant_ml@wlink.com.np> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200404191156.29962.bikrant_ml@wlink.com.np> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PPPoed crashed!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 09:39:37 -0000 On Mon, Apr 19, 2004 at 11:56:29AM +0545, Bikrant Neupane wrote: B> I'm running pppoed on freebsd-4.9. It is running smoothly. However it crashes B> sometime with a pppoed.core file dumpped at the root directory. B> gdb -c pppoed.core shows that it crashed with signal 11 segmentation fault. B> I'm running the package as it came with the os. I have not upgraded any thing B> except the kernel which I have customized for my needs. You should show at least outputs of "bt" command in gdb. You should run gdb this way: "gdb /usr/libexec/pppoed pppoed.core". -- Totus tuus, Glebius. GLEBIUS-RIPN GLEB-RIPE From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 19 04:00:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95FDE16A4CE for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2004 04:00:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp4.wlink.com.np (smtp4.wlink.com.np [202.79.32.87]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 76BB943D31 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2004 03:59:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bikrant_ml@wlink.com.np) Received: (qmail 55593 invoked from network); 19 Apr 2004 10:28:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qmail-scanner.wlink.com.np) (202.79.32.74) by 0 with SMTP; 19 Apr 2004 10:28:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 54948 invoked by uid 1008); 19 Apr 2004 10:28:58 -0000 Received: from bikrant_ml@wlink.com.np by qmail-scanner.wlink.com.np by uid 1002 with qmail-scanner-1.20 (clamscan: 0.60. Clear:RC:1(202.79.32.78):. Processed in 0.016883 secs); 19 Apr 2004 10:28:58 -0000 Received: from smtp3.wlink.com.np (202.79.32.78) by qmail-scanner.wlink.com.np with SMTP; 19 Apr 2004 10:28:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 25252 invoked by uid 514); 19 Apr 2004 10:28:57 -0000 Received: from [202.79.36.168] (HELO bikrant.org.np) by smtp3.wlink.com.np (qmail-smtpd) with SMTP; 19 Apr 2004 10:28:57 -0000 (Mon, 19 Apr 2004 16:13:57 +0545) From: Bikrant To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 16:13:51 +0545 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <200404191156.29962.bikrant_ml@wlink.com.np> <20040419085001.GC51644@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20040419085001.GC51644@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200404191613.51606.bikrant_ml@wlink.com.np> X-Spam-Check-By: smtp3.wlink.com.np Spam: No ; 0.0 / 5.0 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 cc: Matthew Seaman Subject: Re: PPPoed crashed!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 11:00:14 -0000 On Monday 19 April 2004 14:35, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On Mon, Apr 19, 2004 at 11:56:29AM +0545, Bikrant Neupane wrote: > > I'm running pppoed on freebsd-4.9. It is running smoothly. However it > > crashes sometime with a pppoed.core file dumpped at the root directory. > > gdb -c pppoed.core shows that it crashed with signal 11 segmentation > > fault. I'm running the package as it came with the os. I have not > > upgraded any thing except the kernel which I have customized for my > > needs. > > > > Is this a bug or am i missing some parameters in the kernel? > > It's hard to say quite what the problem is with the small amount of > information you've included. > > Certainly none of the software supplied with the OS should ever crash > with a segmentation violation, and it's definitely a bug if that > happens reproducibly. > > On the other hand, segmentation faults are most commonly seen as a > symptom of faulty memory sticks. Crashes due to bad memory will > happen quite unpredictably, although they will tend to happen more > when the machine is under load and there's a lot of memory IO going > on. It worked fine for almost 40 days without any problem. But after that pppoed crashed almost once in a day. I thought it might be memory issue. So I replaced the server with a new P4 Dell Poweredge server with HT support. I built everything from scratch, the kernel. But the daemon has crashed twice in last one week. At peak time the number of running tun devices is around 40. These are the stats. i collected from mrtg. Max running process: 126 avg 76 max Cpu utilization: 7% avg 4% Max sys. load: 0.35 avg 0.1 System Memory: 512 MB Max mem utilization: 382 MB avg:355 MB Max Mbuf in use: 726 avg: 490 Traffic: Max: 2000kbps Avg: 437kbps I think resource utilization is quite low. Here is the output of back trace This GDB was configured as "i386-unknown-freebsd". Core was generated by `pppoed'. Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. #0 0x280e461f in ?? () (gdb) bt #0 0x280e461f in ?? () #1 0x280e48c1 in ?? () #2 0x280e46af in ?? () #3 0x280e48c1 in ?? () #4 0x280e4fd9 in ?? () #5 0x280e34dc in ?? () #6 0x280e3470 in ?? () #7 0x280dda10 in ?? () #8 0x280dd66d in ?? () #9 0x280c4cc9 in ?? () #10 0x280c4be5 in ?? () #11 0x8049640 in ?? () #12 0x804a22b in ?? () #13 0x8048dba in ?? () (gdb) Thanking you, Bikrant Neupane > If the crash you're seeing happens repeatably and always occurs in the > same place, then it must be a programming error. In which case, > please report the problem using send-pr(1). Getting a backtrace from > gdb will be helpful -- as will keeping hold of the core file you have > to make available to a developer should one request it. > > Cheers, > > Matthew From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 19 04:00:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3849E16A4CE for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2004 04:00:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp4.wlink.com.np (smtp4.wlink.com.np [202.79.32.87]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 54D1B43D3F for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2004 04:00:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bikrant_ml@wlink.com.np) Received: (qmail 55938 invoked from network); 19 Apr 2004 10:30:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qmail-scanner.wlink.com.np) (202.79.32.74) by 0 with SMTP; 19 Apr 2004 10:30:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 56702 invoked by uid 1008); 19 Apr 2004 10:30:23 -0000 Received: from bikrant_ml@wlink.com.np by qmail-scanner.wlink.com.np by uid 1002 with qmail-scanner-1.20 (clamscan: 0.60. 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Processed in 0.039865 secs); 19 Apr 2004 10:30:23 -0000 Received: from smtp1.wlink.com.np (202.79.32.76) by qmail-scanner.wlink.com.np with SMTP; 19 Apr 2004 10:30:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 25263 invoked by uid 508); 19 Apr 2004 10:30:20 -0000 Received: from [202.79.36.168] (HELO bikrant.org.np) by smtp1.wlink.com.np (qmail-smtpd) with SMTP; 19 Apr 2004 10:30:19 -0000 (Mon, 19 Apr 2004 16:15:19 +0545) From: Bikrant To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 16:15:12 +0545 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <200404191156.29962.bikrant_ml@wlink.com.np> <20040419093931.GC58113@cell.sick.ru> In-Reply-To: <20040419093931.GC58113@cell.sick.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200404191615.12305.bikrant_ml@wlink.com.np> X-Spam-Check-By: smtp1.wlink.com.np Spam: No ; 0.0 / 5.0 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 cc: Gleb Smirnoff Subject: Re: PPPoed crashed!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 11:00:41 -0000 > > I'm running pppoed on freebsd-4.9. It is running smoothly. However it > >crashes sometime with a pppoed.core file dumpped at the root directory. > > gdb -c pppoed.core shows that it crashed with signal 11 segmentation > >fault. I'm running the package as it came with the os. I have not > >upgraded any thing except the kernel which I have customized for my > needs. > > You should show at least outputs of "bt" command in gdb. You should run > gdb this way: "gdb /usr/libexec/pppoed pppoed.core". Here is the output of bt This GDB was configured as "i386-unknown-freebsd". Core was generated by `pppoed'. Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. #0 0x280e461f in ?? () (gdb) bt #0 0x280e461f in ?? () #1 0x280e48c1 in ?? () #2 0x280e46af in ?? () #3 0x280e48c1 in ?? () #4 0x280e4fd9 in ?? () #5 0x280e34dc in ?? () #6 0x280e3470 in ?? () #7 0x280dda10 in ?? () #8 0x280dd66d in ?? () #9 0x280c4cc9 in ?? () #10 0x280c4be5 in ?? () #11 0x8049640 in ?? () #12 0x804a22b in ?? () #13 0x8048dba in ?? () (gdb) Also, I have included details of my running system in another mail. If you have not received it I can send it to you again with regards, Bikrant Neupane From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 19 04:09:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E35B16A4CE for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2004 04:09:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cell.sick.ru (cell.sick.ru [217.72.144.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4115343D64 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2004 04:09:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from glebius@cell.sick.ru) Received: from cell.sick.ru (glebius@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cell.sick.ru (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i3JB9YQE059047 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 19 Apr 2004 15:09:34 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from glebius@cell.sick.ru) Received: (from glebius@localhost) by cell.sick.ru (8.12.9/8.12.6/Submit) id i3JB9X2H059046; Mon, 19 Apr 2004 15:09:33 +0400 (MSD) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 15:09:33 +0400 From: Gleb Smirnoff To: Bikrant Message-ID: <20040419110933.GA58885@cell.sick.ru> References: <200404191156.29962.bikrant_ml@wlink.com.np> <20040419093931.GC58113@cell.sick.ru> <200404191615.12305.bikrant_ml@wlink.com.np> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200404191615.12305.bikrant_ml@wlink.com.np> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PPPoed crashed!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 11:09:37 -0000 Please, build pppoed with debugging symbols, do not strip it. Reproduce the crash, and show gdb "bt" output again. On Mon, Apr 19, 2004 at 04:15:12PM +0545, Bikrant wrote: B> > > I'm running pppoed on freebsd-4.9. It is running smoothly. However it B> > >crashes sometime with a pppoed.core file dumpped at the root directory. B> > > gdb -c pppoed.core shows that it crashed with signal 11 segmentation B> > >fault. I'm running the package as it came with the os. I have not B> > >upgraded any thing except the kernel which I have customized for my B> > needs. B> > B> > You should show at least outputs of "bt" command in gdb. You should run B> > gdb this way: "gdb /usr/libexec/pppoed pppoed.core". B> B> Here is the output of bt B> B> This GDB was configured as "i386-unknown-freebsd". B> Core was generated by `pppoed'. B> Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. B> #0 0x280e461f in ?? () B> (gdb) bt B> #0 0x280e461f in ?? () B> #1 0x280e48c1 in ?? () B> #2 0x280e46af in ?? () B> #3 0x280e48c1 in ?? () B> #4 0x280e4fd9 in ?? () B> #5 0x280e34dc in ?? () B> #6 0x280e3470 in ?? () B> #7 0x280dda10 in ?? () B> #8 0x280dd66d in ?? () B> #9 0x280c4cc9 in ?? () B> #10 0x280c4be5 in ?? () B> #11 0x8049640 in ?? () B> #12 0x804a22b in ?? () B> #13 0x8048dba in ?? () B> (gdb) B> B> Also, I have included details of my running system in another mail. If you B> have not received it I can send it to you again B> B> with regards, B> Bikrant Neupane -- Totus tuus, Glebius. GLEBIUS-RIPN GLEB-RIPE From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 19 05:32:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B97F516A4CE; Mon, 19 Apr 2004 05:32:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mta10.adelphia.net (mta10.adelphia.net [68.168.78.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43B7843D55; Mon, 19 Apr 2004 05:32:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([67.20.101.71]) by mta10.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.08 201-253-122-130-108-20031117) with SMTP id <20040419123227.QTZL8065.mta10.adelphia.net@barbish>; Mon, 19 Apr 2004 08:32:27 -0400 From: "fbsd_user" To: "Bikrant Neupane" , , Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 08:32:25 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <200404191156.29962.bikrant_ml@wlink.com.np> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: PPPoed crashed!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 12:32:28 -0000 Pppoe is one of the major work horses of FBSD. There being an bug is very unlikely in 4.9. Odds are you have mis-configured an configuration file. If you are running pppoe under gdb as standard production method, then run pppoe without gdb in the way. Posting your rc.conf and ppp.conf so people can review your configuration file content for errors may prove to be more productive in finding your problem. Describe your hardware connection to your ISP. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Bikrant Neupane Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 2:11 AM To: questions@freebsd.org; freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: PPPoed crashed!! I'm running pppoed on freebsd-4.9. It is running smoothly. However it crashes sometime with a pppoed.core file dumpped at the root directory. gdb -c pppoed.core shows that it crashed with signal 11 segmentation fault. I'm running the package as it came with the os. I have not upgraded any thing except the kernel which I have customized for my needs. Is this a bug or am i missing some parameters in the kernel? with regards, Bikrant _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 19 08:37:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD72616A4CE for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2004 08:37:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns2.wananchi.com (ns2.wananchi.com [62.8.64.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A82C43D2D for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2004 08:37:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wash@wananchi.com) Received: from wash by ns2.wananchi.com with local (Exim 4.32 #0 (FreeBSD 4.9)) id 1BFapa-000IOf-U2 by authid for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2004 18:37:10 +0300 Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 18:37:10 +0300 From: Odhiambo Washington To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040419153710.GN70494@ns2.wananchi.com> Mail-Followup-To: Odhiambo Washington , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Disclaimer: Any views expressed in this message,where not explicitly attributed otherwise, are mine alone!. X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5.5.1i (2003-11-05) X-Designation: Systems Administrator, Wananchi Online Ltd. X-Location: Nairobi, KE, East Africa. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1i Subject: NetCache equivalents X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 15:37:16 -0000 Hello All, We are looking at acquiring NetCache (by NetApp). However, looking at the cost, it is amazingly high. Aren't there CHEAPER ways of achieving what Netcache does? Or is it simply the "best thing that happened since sliced bread"? At figures over US$ 20K, I am wondering if this is what every 'serious' organization uses, or if I have other alternatives. Thanks in advance for any input - and make it simple, OK? ;-) -Wash http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html -- +======================================================================+ |\ _,,,---,,_ | Odhiambo Washington Zzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ | Wananchi Online Ltd. www.wananchi.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-'| Tel: +254 20 313985-9 +254 20 313922 '---''(_/--' `-'\_) | GSM: +254 722 743223 +254 733 744121 +======================================================================+ "If you ever want to get anywhere in politics, my boy, you're going to have to get a toehold in the public eye." From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 19 12:37:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B897A16A4CE for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2004 12:37:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from light.sdf.com (light.sdf.com [207.200.153.231]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DEF643D48 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2004 12:37:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@sdf.com) Received: from tom (helo=localhost) by light.sdf.com with local-esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1BFefh-000Gyn-9g; Mon, 19 Apr 2004 12:43:13 -0700 Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 12:43:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom To: Odhiambo Washington In-Reply-To: <20040419153710.GN70494@ns2.wananchi.com> Message-ID: <20040419124032.U97493@light.sdf.com> References: <20040419153710.GN70494@ns2.wananchi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NetCache equivalents X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 19:37:39 -0000 Depends on why you think you need a NetCache. If your an ISP, and you need caching, Squid is also an alternative. However, a Netcache can also acts as as an NNTP proxy, which Squid can't. No idea if that is of interest to you. If you are a content distributor, and you need stream splitting, I don't know anything besides a Netcache that can do this. I've never used it, because the stream support has to be licensed separately. If you are going to get a Netcache, get two lower cost units, rather than one big unit. Tom On Mon, 19 Apr 2004, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > Hello All, > > We are looking at acquiring NetCache (by NetApp). However, looking at > the cost, it is amazingly high. > Aren't there CHEAPER ways of achieving what Netcache does? Or is it > simply the "best thing that happened since sliced bread"? > At figures over US$ 20K, I am wondering if this is what every 'serious' > organization uses, or if I have other alternatives. > > Thanks in advance for any input - and make it simple, OK? ;-) > > > -Wash > > http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html > > -- > +======================================================================+ > |\ _,,,---,,_ | Odhiambo Washington > Zzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ | Wananchi Online Ltd. www.wananchi.com > |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-'| Tel: +254 20 313985-9 +254 20 313922 > '---''(_/--' `-'\_) | GSM: +254 722 743223 +254 733 744121 > +======================================================================+ > "If you ever want to get anywhere in politics, my boy, you're going to > have to get a toehold in the public eye." > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 20 11:36:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D371916A4CE for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2004 11:36:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from master4.yvr1.superb.net (master4.yvr1.superb.net [209.90.166.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CD1443D5C for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2004 11:36:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gbaratto@superb.net) Received: from chivas (fw.yvr1.superb.net [209.90.166.2]) by master4.yvr1.superb.net (8.12.9/8.12.8) with SMTP id i3KIahWD018293 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2004 11:36:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <002401c42706$6d818bb0$9c01a8c0@chivas> From: "Gustavo A. Baratto" To: Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 11:36:43 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: IDS X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 18:36:45 -0000 Hi everyone... We have couple of dozen boxes running freebsd 5.X, but tripwire from = ports doesn't compile in 5.X I wonder what IDS programs people are using these days... Any feedback = is really appreciated. thanks :) From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 20 12:25:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 646DE16A4CF for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2004 12:25:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ctb-mesg6.saix.net (ctb-mesg6.saix.net [196.25.240.78]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFCE443D41 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2004 12:25:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from karnaugh@karnaugh.za.net) Received: from karnaugh.za.net (ndn-ip-nas-1-p440.telkom-ipnet.co.za [155.239.193.184]) by ctb-mesg6.saix.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 421706946; Tue, 20 Apr 2004 21:25:14 +0200 (SAST) Message-ID: <40857940.8@karnaugh.za.net> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 21:25:52 +0200 From: Colin Alston User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.5 (Windows/20040207) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Gustavo A. Baratto" References: <002401c42706$6d818bb0$9c01a8c0@chivas> In-Reply-To: <002401c42706$6d818bb0$9c01a8c0@chivas> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IDS X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 19:25:19 -0000 Gustavo A. Baratto wrote: > Hi everyone... > > We have couple of dozen boxes running freebsd 5.X, but tripwire from ports doesn't compile in 5.X > > I wonder what IDS programs people are using these days... Any feedback is really appreciated. > > thanks :) Snort works wonderfully for me. -- Colin Alston Quantum Logic Chicken: The chicken is distributed probabalistically on all sides of the road until you observe it on the side of your course. From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 20 12:41:51 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A7E816A4CE for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2004 12:41:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from master4.yvr1.superb.net (master4.yvr1.superb.net [209.90.166.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FE9343D2F for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2004 12:41:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gbaratto@superb.net) Received: from chivas (fw.yvr1.superb.net [209.90.166.2]) by master4.yvr1.superb.net (8.12.9/8.12.8) with SMTP id i3KJfncw022222 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2004 12:41:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <003c01c4270f$82e142d0$9c01a8c0@chivas> From: "Gustavo A. Baratto" To: References: <002401c42706$6d818bb0$9c01a8c0@chivas> <40857940.8@karnaugh.za.net> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 12:41:44 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Subject: Re: IDS X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 19:41:51 -0000 wow... I didn't know snort did file system checking as well. I will definetely check that out! thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Alston" To: "Gustavo A. Baratto" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 12:25 PM Subject: Re: IDS > Gustavo A. Baratto wrote: > > > Hi everyone... > > > > We have couple of dozen boxes running freebsd 5.X, but tripwire from ports doesn't compile in 5.X > > > > I wonder what IDS programs people are using these days... Any feedback is really appreciated. > > > > thanks :) > > Snort works wonderfully for me. > > -- > Colin Alston > > Quantum Logic Chicken: > The chicken is distributed probabalistically on all sides of the > road until you observe it on the side of your course. > From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 20 13:14:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D059416A4CE for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2004 13:14:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mss.tzo.com (mss.ne.client2.attbi.com [24.34.104.120]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5DF943D2F for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2004 13:14:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marty@mss.tzo.com) Received: by mss.tzo.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id 1F02923C89; Tue, 20 Apr 2004 16:14:44 -0400 (EDT) From: To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <20040420190053.5C92916A4D9@hub.freebsd.org> (freebsd-isp-request@freebsd.org) References: <20040420190053.5C92916A4D9@hub.freebsd.org> Message-Id: <20040420201444.1F02923C89@mss.tzo.com> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 16:14:44 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: NetCache equivalents X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 20:14:42 -0000 At one point in the distant past (3 years ago) I worked for Infolibria, now Certeon, which made the Dynacache. At the time, if you wanted decent performance you would not choose Squid. I don't think it was because Squid was terrible, just that Dynacache, and others, were optimized to run fast. These days 3 GHz processors and multi-gigabyte memory are cheap so an out of the box Squid implementation might do the trick. Marty Sasaki From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 20 15:33:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E219F16A4CE for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2004 15:33:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lakermmtao06.cox.net (lakermmtao06.cox.net [68.230.240.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1521F43D3F for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2004 15:33:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from srenna@vdbmusic.com) Received: from mars ([68.100.162.26]) by lakermmtao06.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.03.02 201-2131-111-104-20040324) with ESMTP id <20040420223259.BQWJ2585.lakermmtao06.cox.net@mars>; Tue, 20 Apr 2004 18:32:59 -0400 From: "Scott Renna" To: "'Colin Alston'" , "'Gustavo A. Baratto'" Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 18:33:02 -0400 Message-ID: <002101c42727$71403e60$0202a8c0@mars> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <40857940.8@karnaugh.za.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: RE: IDS X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 22:33:03 -0000 You can also try aide It's supposed to be pretty good, but I never tried it. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Colin Alston Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 3:26 PM To: Gustavo A. Baratto Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IDS Gustavo A. Baratto wrote: > Hi everyone... > > We have couple of dozen boxes running freebsd 5.X, but tripwire from ports doesn't compile in 5.X > > I wonder what IDS programs people are using these days... Any feedback is really appreciated. > > thanks :) Snort works wonderfully for me. -- Colin Alston Quantum Logic Chicken: The chicken is distributed probabalistically on all sides of the road until you observe it on the side of your course. _______________________________________________ freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 21 07:52:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF73116A4CE for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2004 07:52:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bes.amduat.net (bes.amduat.net [206.124.149.190]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 494FD43D3F for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2004 07:52:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jbarrett@amduat.net) Received: from osiris.amduat.net (osiris.amduat.net [10.0.0.69]) (AUTH: LOGIN jbarrett, SSL: TLSv1/SSLv3,128bits,RC4-MD5) by bes.amduat.net with esmtp; Wed, 21 Apr 2004 07:52:07 -0700 From: "Jacob S. Barrett" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 06:53:39 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200404210653.39359.jbarrett@amduat.net> Subject: Network Attack X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 14:52:08 -0000 I was up until the wee hours of the morning trying to decipher a tcpdump of an ongoing attack against my network. I can't seem to figure out how it is being launched. A few packets come from some host outside our network. I assume this has a spoofed source address. They hit 1 or 2 machines in our network, sometimes with just a ping, other times on the windows RPC port, and other still just random ports. This wouldn't be so bad, but then all hell breaks loose on our network. Milliseconds after these packets hit a host in our network a dozen client routers within our network start slamming that external host with "ICMP time exceeded in-transit" packets. It completely cripples sections of our network, especially our wireless trunk lines. I have been look and looking in vain at the initial incoming packets from the external host hoping to figure out how those dozen routers would even know that that host exists. The packets coming in do not appear to be targeted at a broadcast address. I can't for the life of me figure out how those routers are seeing any packets from this external host to send this ICMP message to it. Then even if they were, why are they sending thousands of them in less than a second? Has anyone seen something like this before? I am at a loss on how to procede next. Is there a list someone on the net that any of you use that I should post this question to? Is there someone on this list that has experience debuging things like this that I could share my tcpdump (under NDA)? -- Jacob S. Barrett jbarrett@amduat.net www.amduat.net "I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it." From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 21 08:41:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9937216A4CE for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2004 08:41:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail15.txucom.net (mail15.txucom.net [207.70.175.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4D4BA43D5E for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2004 08:41:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bob@buckhorn.net) Received: (qmail 1882 invoked from network); 21 Apr 2004 15:41:56 -0000 Received: from lfkn-adsl-dhcp-net1-197.txucom.net (HELO tardis.buckhorn.net) ([207.70.145.197]) (envelope-sender ) by mail15.txucom.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 21 Apr 2004 15:41:56 -0000 Received: from buckhorn.net (localhost.buckhorn.net [127.0.0.1]) by tardis.buckhorn.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A559A1B8F00 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2004 10:41:38 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <40869632.3040409@buckhorn.net> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 10:41:38 -0500 From: Bob Martin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i386; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Billing/Customer administration software X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 15:41:58 -0000 We're looking for billing and customer administration software that runs on FreeBSD. Any suggestions? Or suggestions for software on any platform? Thanks in advance! Bob Martin From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 21 11:04:05 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D689C16A4CE for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:04:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.lambertfam.org (www.lambertfam.org [216.223.208.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B375E43D31 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:04:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lambert@lambertfam.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.lambertfam.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2541134D53 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2004 14:04:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.lambertfam.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (www.lambertfam.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30798-07 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2004 14:03:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from laptop.lambertfam.org (ool-182db8f6.dyn.optonline.net [24.45.184.246]) by mail.lambertfam.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5886E34D52 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2004 14:03:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by laptop.lambertfam.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D684DC10F; Wed, 21 Apr 2004 14:03:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 14:03:51 -0400 From: Scott Lambert To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040421180351.GE10267@laptop.lambertfam.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org References: <40869632.3040409@buckhorn.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <40869632.3040409@buckhorn.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at lambertfam.org Subject: Re: Billing/Customer administration software X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 18:04:05 -0000 On Wed, Apr 21, 2004 at 10:41:38AM -0500, Bob Martin wrote: > We're looking for billing and customer administration software that runs > on FreeBSD. > > Any suggestions? Runs on FreeBSD: www.billmax.com www.sisd.com/freeside/ Billmax was nice when I used it 3 years ago. I have not used Freeside, yet. From the demo's Billmax's web UI is much nicer (but that's an opinion and you know what those are worth). -- Scott Lambert KC5MLE Unix SysAdmin lambert@lambertfam.org From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 21 11:09:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BC6416A4CE for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:09:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.kconline.com (mail.kconline.com [216.241.132.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05AD043D41 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:09:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from clint@kconline.com) Received: from clint (b3.710.kconline.com [216.241.143.36]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.kconline.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i3LI9GqT086237 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2004 13:09:17 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from clint@kconline.com) Message-ID: <00bf01c427cb$bbf27550$248ff1d8@clint> From: "Clint Wilson" To: References: <40869632.3040409@buckhorn.net> <20040421180351.GE10267@laptop.lambertfam.org> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 13:09:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Re: Billing/Customer administration software X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 18:09:19 -0000 Bob, Here is an open source project I am using for my billing system. http://freshmeat.net/projects/cwispy/ I am not using the software to the full potential at this time, but it = is worth looking into. Best regards, Clint Wilson ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Scott Lambert=20 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 1:03 PM Subject: Re: Billing/Customer administration software On Wed, Apr 21, 2004 at 10:41:38AM -0500, Bob Martin wrote: > We're looking for billing and customer administration software that = runs=20 > on FreeBSD. >=20 > Any suggestions? Runs on FreeBSD: www.billmax.com www.sisd.com/freeside/ Billmax was nice when I used it 3 years ago. I have not used = Freeside, yet. From the demo's Billmax's web UI is much nicer (but that's an opinion and you know what those are worth). --=20 Scott Lambert KC5MLE Unix = SysAdmin lambert@lambertfam.org _______________________________________________ freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 21 11:13:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FB8416A4CE for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:13:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx01.bsinet.net (mx01.bsinet.net [63.175.65.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 107B243D3F for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:13:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eshabot@bsinet.net) Received: (qmail 68192 invoked from network); 21 Apr 2004 18:11:21 -0000 Received: from node-423a192a.mdw.onnet.us.uu.net (HELO stranger) ([66.58.25.42]) (envelope-sender ) by mx01.bsinet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 21 Apr 2004 18:11:21 -0000 X-AntiVirus: Checked by Dr.Web [version: 4.31a, engine: 4.31b, virus records: 48777, updated: 18.04.2004] Message-ID: <003601c427cc$80e242a0$0201a8c0@stranger> From: "Edward Shabotinsky" To: References: <40869632.3040409@buckhorn.net> <20040421180351.GE10267@laptop.lambertfam.org> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 13:14:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Subject: Re: Billing/Customer administration software X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 18:13:55 -0000 www.iea-software.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Lambert" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 1:03 PM Subject: Re: Billing/Customer administration software > On Wed, Apr 21, 2004 at 10:41:38AM -0500, Bob Martin wrote: > > We're looking for billing and customer administration software that runs > > on FreeBSD. > > > > Any suggestions? > > Runs on FreeBSD: > www.billmax.com > www.sisd.com/freeside/ > > Billmax was nice when I used it 3 years ago. I have not used Freeside, > yet. From the demo's Billmax's web UI is much nicer (but that's an > opinion and you know what those are worth). > > -- > Scott Lambert KC5MLE Unix SysAdmin > lambert@lambertfam.org > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 21 11:50:05 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A49216A4CE for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:50:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from archimedes.tomelliott.net (archimedes.tomelliott.net [81.6.196.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BBC843D3F for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:50:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@tomelliott.net) Received: (qmail 10822 invoked by uid 85); 21 Apr 2004 18:49:57 -0000 Received: from tom@tomelliott.net by archimedes.tomelliott.net by uid 89 with qmail-scanner-1.16 Clear:SA:0(-3.6/5.0):. Processed in 15.353003 secs); 21 Apr 2004 18:49:57 -0000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.6 required=5.0 Received: from unknown (HELO europa) (postmaster@tomelliott.net@10.100.100.10) by archimedes.tomelliott.net with SMTP; 21 Apr 2004 18:49:41 -0000 Message-ID: <0a3601c427d1$6de77530$0a64640a@sharfleet.co.uk> From: "Thomas Elliott" To: References: <200404210653.39359.jbarrett@amduat.net> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 19:46:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: Re: Network Attack X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 18:50:05 -0000 Jacob S. Barrett wrote: > I was up until the wee hours of the morning trying to decipher a > tcpdump of an ongoing attack against my network. I can't seem to > figure out how it is being launched. A few packets come from some > host outside our network. I assume this has a spoofed source address. > They hit 1 or 2 machines in our network, sometimes with just a ping, > other times on the windows RPC port, and other still just random > ports. This wouldn't be so bad, but then all hell breaks loose on > our network. Milliseconds after these packets hit a host in our > network a dozen client routers within our network start slamming that > external host with "ICMP time exceeded in-transit" packets. It > completely cripples sections of our network, especially our wireless > trunk lines. I have been look and looking in vain at the initial > incoming packets from the external host hoping to figure out how > those dozen routers would even know that that host exists. The > packets coming in do not appear to be targeted at a broadcast > address. I can't for the life of me figure out how those routers are > seeing any packets from this external host to send this ICMP message > to it. Then even if they were, why are they sending thousands of > them in less than a second? Sounds familiar > Has anyone seen something like this before? I am at a loss on how to > procede next. Is there a list someone on the net that any of you use > that I should post this question to? Is there someone on this list > that has experience debuging things like this that I could share my > tcpdump (under NDA)? Let me guess - your routers are freebsd / (zebra/quagga) based? If so - ping/telnet/something, from outside your network, to either a network or broadcast address, and watch. We had this - after upgrading our zebras to 5.2.1 - we had a PR open - http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/64053 (I'm daniel's coleague) - afaik, its still ongoing, we still have those firewalls in place on those addresses. HTH -- ~T From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 21 21:05:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF49C16A4CE for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2004 21:05:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp4.wlink.com.np (smtp4.wlink.com.np [202.79.32.87]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3CB4243D54 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2004 21:05:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bikrant_ml@wlink.com.np) Received: (qmail 94190 invoked from network); 22 Apr 2004 04:05:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qmail-scanner.wlink.com.np) (202.79.32.74) by 0 with SMTP; 22 Apr 2004 04:05:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 23830 invoked by uid 1008); 22 Apr 2004 04:05:26 -0000 Received: from bikrant_ml@wlink.com.np by qmail-scanner.wlink.com.np by uid 1002 with qmail-scanner-1.20 (clamscan: 0.60. Clear:RC:1(202.79.32.76):. Processed in 0.021969 secs); 22 Apr 2004 04:05:26 -0000 Received: from smtp1.wlink.com.np (202.79.32.76) by qmail-scanner.wlink.com.np with SMTP; 22 Apr 2004 04:05:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 23389 invoked by uid 508); 22 Apr 2004 04:05:25 -0000 Received: from [202.79.36.168] (HELO bikrant.org.np) by smtp1.wlink.com.np (qmail-smtpd) with SMTP; 22 Apr 2004 04:05:25 -0000 (Thu, 22 Apr 2004 09:50:25 +0545) From: Bikrant To: Matthew Seaman Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 09:50:22 +0545 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <200404191156.29962.bikrant_ml@wlink.com.np> <200404191613.51606.bikrant_ml@wlink.com.np> <20040419130916.GA54580@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20040419130916.GA54580@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200404220950.22293.bikrant_ml@wlink.com.np> X-Spam-Check-By: smtp1.wlink.com.np Spam: No ; 0.0 / 5.0 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PPPoed crashed!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 04:05:35 -0000 On Monday 19 April 2004 18:54, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On Mon, Apr 19, 2004 at 04:13:51PM +0545, Bikrant wrote: > > Here is the output of back trace > > This GDB was configured as "i386-unknown-freebsd". > > Core was generated by `pppoed'. > > Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. > > #0 0x280e461f in ?? () > > (gdb) bt > > #0 0x280e461f in ?? () > > #1 0x280e48c1 in ?? () > > #2 0x280e46af in ?? () > > #3 0x280e48c1 in ?? () > > #4 0x280e4fd9 in ?? () > > #5 0x280e34dc in ?? () > > #6 0x280e3470 in ?? () > > #7 0x280dda10 in ?? () > > #8 0x280dd66d in ?? () > > #9 0x280c4cc9 in ?? () > > #10 0x280c4be5 in ?? () > > #11 0x8049640 in ?? () > > #12 0x804a22b in ?? () > > #13 0x8048dba in ?? () > > (gdb) > > Hmmm... Verb Sap. gdb backtraces tend to be a lot more useful if > there's a copy of the executable with debugging symbols involved > somewhere. If you've built world recently, there should be one in > /usr/obj/usr/src/libexec/pppoed/pppoed -- and the gdb command line: > > # gdb /usr/obj/usr/src/libexec/pppoed/pppoed -c pppoed.core > > will load those symbols for you. (It doesn't matter if that core dump > comes from a stripped version of the executable, only that they're > both from the same build.) > Hi Matthew, Sorry for late response. I'm running the same binary that came with the os. I have not done any upgrades yet. I hope this one gives the clear picture. Thanks for helping me use gdb :) Here is the back trace result pppoe# gdb -c pppoed.core-2004-04-13 /usr/libexec/pppoed Core was generated by `pppoed'. Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libnetgraph.so.1...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libc.so.4...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Reading symbols from /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1...(no debugging symbols found)...done. #0 0x280e461f in isatty () from /usr/lib/libc.so.4 (gdb) bt #0 0x280e461f in isatty () from /usr/lib/libc.so.4 #1 0x280e48c1 in isatty () from /usr/lib/libc.so.4 #2 0x280e46af in isatty () from /usr/lib/libc.so.4 #3 0x280e48c1 in isatty () from /usr/lib/libc.so.4 #4 0x280e4fd9 in malloc () from /usr/lib/libc.so.4 #5 0x280e34dc in __smakebuf () from /usr/lib/libc.so.4 #6 0x280e3470 in __swsetup () from /usr/lib/libc.so.4 #7 0x280dda10 in vfprintf () from /usr/lib/libc.so.4 #8 0x280dd66d in fprintf () from /usr/lib/libc.so.4 #9 0x280c4cc9 in vsyslog () from /usr/lib/libc.so.4 #10 0x280c4be5 in syslog () from /usr/lib/libc.so.4 #11 0x8049640 in NgRecvData () #12 0x804a22b in NgRecvData () #13 0x8048dba in NgRecvData () (gdb) with regards, Bikrant > Cheers, > > Matthew From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 21 21:20:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C678016A4CE for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2004 21:20:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp4.wlink.com.np (smtp4.wlink.com.np [202.79.32.87]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C494C43D5A for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2004 21:20:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bikrant_ml@wlink.com.np) Received: (qmail 96202 invoked from network); 22 Apr 2004 04:20:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qmail-scanner.wlink.com.np) (202.79.32.74) by 0 with SMTP; 22 Apr 2004 04:20:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 44928 invoked by uid 1008); 22 Apr 2004 04:20:29 -0000 Received: from bikrant_ml@wlink.com.np by qmail-scanner.wlink.com.np by uid 1002 with qmail-scanner-1.20 (clamscan: 0.60. Clear:RC:1(202.79.32.76):. Processed in 0.089779 secs); 22 Apr 2004 04:20:29 -0000 Received: from smtp1.wlink.com.np (202.79.32.76) by qmail-scanner.wlink.com.np with SMTP; 22 Apr 2004 04:20:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 26038 invoked by uid 508); 22 Apr 2004 04:20:29 -0000 Received: from [202.79.36.168] (HELO bikrant.org.np) by smtp1.wlink.com.np (qmail-smtpd) with SMTP; 22 Apr 2004 04:20:29 -0000 (Thu, 22 Apr 2004 10:05:29 +0545) From: Bikrant To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 10:05:24 +0545 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200404221005.24999.bikrant_ml@wlink.com.np> X-Spam-Check-By: smtp1.wlink.com.np Spam: No ; 0.0 / 5.0 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 cc: fbsd_user Subject: Re: PPPoed crashed!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 04:20:35 -0000 On Monday 19 April 2004 18:17, fbsd_user wrote: > Pppoe is one of the major work horses of FBSD. > There being an bug is very unlikely in 4.9. > Odds are you have mis-configured an configuration file. > > If you are running pppoe under gdb as standard production method, > then run pppoe without gdb in the way. > > Posting your rc.conf and ppp.conf so people can review your > configuration file content for errors may prove to be more > productive > in finding your problem. This is what i have in rc.conf kern_securelevel_enable="NO" nfs_reserved_port_only="NONE" sendmail_enable="NO" sshd_enable="YES" usbd_enable="YES" hostname="pppoe.xxx.com.np" ifconfig_em0="inet 202.79.43.15 netmask 255.255.255.224" ifconfig_xl0="inet 202.79.56.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" defaultrouter="202.79.43.1" local_startup="/etc/rc.d" pppoed_enable="YES" pppoed_flags="-d -P /var/run/pppoed.pid -a WIPOPTest -l default" pppoed_interface="xl0" firewall_enable="YES" firewall_type="OPEN" firewall_quiet="NO" static_routes="" gateway_enable="YES" router_enable="YES" router="routed" And in ppp.conf default: allow users enable pap allow mode direct set mru 1492 set mtu 1492 set speed sync set timeout 3600 enable lqr set ifaddr 202.79.56.1 202.79.56.11-202.79.56.80 load server set radius /etc/radius.conf accept dns and bt result pppoe# gdb -c pppoed.core-2004-04-13 /usr/libexec/pppoed Core was generated by `pppoed'. Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libnetgraph.so.1...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libc.so.4...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Reading symbols from /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1...(no debugging symbols found)...done. #0 0x280e461f in isatty () from /usr/lib/libc.so.4 (gdb) bt #0 0x280e461f in isatty () from /usr/lib/libc.so.4 #1 0x280e48c1 in isatty () from /usr/lib/libc.so.4 #2 0x280e46af in isatty () from /usr/lib/libc.so.4 #3 0x280e48c1 in isatty () from /usr/lib/libc.so.4 #4 0x280e4fd9 in malloc () from /usr/lib/libc.so.4 #5 0x280e34dc in __smakebuf () from /usr/lib/libc.so.4 #6 0x280e3470 in __swsetup () from /usr/lib/libc.so.4 #7 0x280dda10 in vfprintf () from /usr/lib/libc.so.4 #8 0x280dd66d in fprintf () from /usr/lib/libc.so.4 #9 0x280c4cc9 in vsyslog () from /usr/lib/libc.so.4 #10 0x280c4be5 in syslog () from /usr/lib/libc.so.4 #11 0x8049640 in NgRecvData () #12 0x804a22b in NgRecvData () #13 0x8048dba in NgRecvData () (gdb) with regards, Bikrant > > Describe your hardware connection to your ISP. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Bikrant > Neupane > Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 2:11 AM > To: questions@freebsd.org; freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > Subject: PPPoed crashed!! > > I'm running pppoed on freebsd-4.9. It is running smoothly. However > it crashes > sometime with a pppoed.core file dumpped at the root directory. > gdb -c pppoed.core shows that it crashed with signal 11 segmentation > fault. > I'm running the package as it came with the os. I have not upgraded > any thing > except the kernel which I have customized for my needs. > > Is this a bug or am i missing some parameters in the kernel? > > with regards, > Bikrant > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 21 23:15:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FA4C16A4CE for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2004 23:15:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cell.sick.ru (cell.sick.ru [217.72.144.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D0D743D5D for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2004 23:15:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from glebius@cell.sick.ru) Received: from cell.sick.ru (glebius@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cell.sick.ru (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i3M6FBQE079034 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 22 Apr 2004 10:15:12 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from glebius@cell.sick.ru) Received: (from glebius@localhost) by cell.sick.ru (8.12.9/8.12.6/Submit) id i3M6FASk079033; Thu, 22 Apr 2004 10:15:10 +0400 (MSD) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 10:15:09 +0400 From: Gleb Smirnoff To: Bikrant Message-ID: <20040422061509.GC78827@cell.sick.ru> References: <200404221005.24999.bikrant_ml@wlink.com.np> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200404221005.24999.bikrant_ml@wlink.com.np> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org cc: fbsd_user Subject: Re: PPPoed crashed!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 06:15:18 -0000 One more request :) Could you please build libc and libnetgraph with debugging symbols? And run bt one more time? echo "CFLAGS= -g" >> /etc/make.conf echo "STRIP= " >> /etc/make.conf cd /usr/src/lib/libc && make && make install cd /usr/src/lib/libnetgraph && make && make install On Thu, Apr 22, 2004 at 10:05:24AM +0545, Bikrant wrote: B> pppoe# gdb -c pppoed.core-2004-04-13 /usr/libexec/pppoed B> Core was generated by `pppoed'. B> Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. B> Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libnetgraph.so.1...(no debugging symbols B> found)...done. B> Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libc.so.4...(no debugging symbols found)...done. B> Reading symbols from /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1...(no debugging symbols B> found)...done. B> #0 0x280e461f in isatty () from /usr/lib/libc.so.4 B> (gdb) bt B> #0 0x280e461f in isatty () from /usr/lib/libc.so.4 B> #1 0x280e48c1 in isatty () from /usr/lib/libc.so.4 B> #2 0x280e46af in isatty () from /usr/lib/libc.so.4 B> #3 0x280e48c1 in isatty () from /usr/lib/libc.so.4 B> #4 0x280e4fd9 in malloc () from /usr/lib/libc.so.4 B> #5 0x280e34dc in __smakebuf () from /usr/lib/libc.so.4 B> #6 0x280e3470 in __swsetup () from /usr/lib/libc.so.4 B> #7 0x280dda10 in vfprintf () from /usr/lib/libc.so.4 B> #8 0x280dd66d in fprintf () from /usr/lib/libc.so.4 B> #9 0x280c4cc9 in vsyslog () from /usr/lib/libc.so.4 B> #10 0x280c4be5 in syslog () from /usr/lib/libc.so.4 B> #11 0x8049640 in NgRecvData () B> #12 0x804a22b in NgRecvData () B> #13 0x8048dba in NgRecvData () B> (gdb) B> B> B> with regards, B> Bikrant B> B> B> > B> > Describe your hardware connection to your ISP. B> > B> > -----Original Message----- B> > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org B> > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Bikrant B> > Neupane B> > Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 2:11 AM B> > To: questions@freebsd.org; freebsd-isp@freebsd.org B> > Subject: PPPoed crashed!! B> > B> > I'm running pppoed on freebsd-4.9. It is running smoothly. However B> > it crashes B> > sometime with a pppoed.core file dumpped at the root directory. B> > gdb -c pppoed.core shows that it crashed with signal 11 segmentation B> > fault. B> > I'm running the package as it came with the os. I have not upgraded B> > any thing B> > except the kernel which I have customized for my needs. B> > B> > Is this a bug or am i missing some parameters in the kernel? B> > B> > with regards, B> > Bikrant B> > B> > _______________________________________________ B> > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list B> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions B> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to B> > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" B> > B> > _______________________________________________ B> > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list B> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp B> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" B> B> _______________________________________________ B> freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list B> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp B> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Totus tuus, Glebius. GLEBIUS-RIPN GLEB-RIPE From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 22 07:15:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A8A816A532 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 2004 07:15:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.act.co.za (mail.act.co.za [196.15.213.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79D1443D31 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 2004 07:15:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from spidey@act.co.za) Received: from localhost.act.co.za ([127.0.0.1] helo=localhost) by mail.act.co.za with esmtp (Exim 4.24; FreeBSD 5.0) id 1BGf3D-0007xw-QR for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Thu, 22 Apr 2004 16:19:39 +0200 Received: from mail.act.co.za ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.act.co.za [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30127-09 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 2004 16:19:36 +0200 (SAST) Received: from [10.0.1.11] (helo=ACTSPIDEY) by mail.act.co.za with smtp (Exim 4.24; FreeBSD 5.0) id 1BGf3A-0007xn-HK for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Thu, 22 Apr 2004 16:19:36 +0200 From: "Spidey Knepscheld" To: Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 16:15:47 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at act.co.za Subject: Traffic Monitor X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 14:15:56 -0000 Hi I am an ISP running FreeBSD as a firewall and as a Mail Server. My problem is that I am not able to monitor the amount of traffic that user are using on my network. in south Africa bandwidth is extremely expensive and I need to take my bandwidth to the edge. My network looks like this: My Link comes in on a Cisco 805 from the router it goes to the first NIC on the Firewall from the second NIC it runs into a 10base HUB where there are only 3 ports used one as I said for the Firewall the other for a FreeBSD box (I want to use this box for traffic monitoring) and then one port for the rest of the network which connects to a 100base switch. The reason I used the 10base HUB is because it broadcasts all the data to all the ports. So for all data to and from the firewall will be caught by the Monitoring BSD box. I hope this makes sense. What I am looking for is some app that could show me live what ip on my network is utilizing what part of the bandwidth. Don't laugh !!I have a 256k Diginet connection and I would like to see who is killing my network. I do get live graphs from my upstream supplier but it shows the line utilization from my router and not who is using what. So I can't be proactive in solving speed issues I need to wait for it to happen and then by a process of elimination disconnect segments of the network and see when the graph drops. I tried TCPDUMP but it is difficult to understand (perhaps I am just stupid) but it's a time consuming process and to late to fix the problem. I hope this makes sense to someone thank you Spidey From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 22 07:24:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A8F916A4CE for ; Thu, 22 Apr 2004 07:24:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from complx.LF.net (complx.LF.net [212.9.190.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2141F43D46 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 2004 07:24:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lists@complx.LF.net) Received: from lists by complx.LF.net with local (Exim 4.24) id 1BGf7e-000LCv-CB; Thu, 22 Apr 2004 16:24:14 +0200 Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 16:24:14 +0200 From: Kurt Jaeger To: Spidey Knepscheld Message-ID: <20040422142414.GY55822@complx.LF.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Traffic Monitor X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 14:24:16 -0000 Hi! > What I am looking for is some app that could show me live what ip on my > network is utilizing what part of the bandwidth. For accounting, one can use ftp://ftp.LF.net/pub/unix/systems/FreeBSD/sw/ipcount-2.0-i386_fbsd4.tgz or http://www.ba.cnr.it/~paolo/pmacct/ For real-time monitoring, have a look at http://www.ntop.org/ntop.html -- MfG/Best regards, Kurt Jaeger 16 years to go ! LF.net GmbH fon +49 711 90074-23 pi@LF.net Ruppmannstr. 27 fax +49 711 90074-33 D-70565 Stuttgart mob +49 171 3101372 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 22 07:44:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2F2F16A4CE for ; Thu, 22 Apr 2004 07:44:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from telcommail.net (mail.telcom.net [200.80.13.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 341DF43D1F for ; Thu, 22 Apr 2004 07:44:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from akachler@telcom.net) Received: from telcom.net (host203.216.22.121.telcom.net [216.22.121.203] (may be forged)) by telcommail.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i3MEgjBM073366 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 2004 10:42:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4087D9F7.10800@telcom.net> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 10:43:03 -0400 From: Arie Kachler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.83.6.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: re: Traffic Monitor X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 14:44:23 -0000 Hi Spidey, If you want to go low-cost (free), try http://ipband.sourceforge.net. It won't let you limit connections that are hogging your bandwidth, but at least you know who the hogs are. If you want full bells and whistles, http://www.packeteer.com/prod-sol/products/packetshaper.cfm. This one will let you do anything you want. Exprensive but worth it. Hope the info helps. Arie Kachler >Hi > >I am an ISP running FreeBSD as a firewall and as a Mail Server. My problem >is that I am not able to monitor the amount of traffic that user are using >on my network. in south Africa bandwidth is extremely expensive and I need >to take my bandwidth to the edge. > >My network looks like this: My Link comes in on a Cisco 805 from the router >it goes to the first NIC on the Firewall from the second NIC it runs into a >10base HUB where there are only 3 ports used one as I said for the Firewall >the other for a FreeBSD box (I want to use this box for traffic monitoring) >and then one port for the rest of the network which connects to a 100base >switch. The reason I used the 10base HUB is because it broadcasts all the >data to all the ports. So for all data to and from the firewall will be >caught by the Monitoring BSD box. I hope this makes sense. > >What I am looking for is some app that could show me live what ip on my >network is utilizing what part of the bandwidth. Don't laugh !!I have a 256k >Diginet connection and I would like to see who is killing my network. I do >get live graphs from my upstream supplier but it shows the line utilization >from my router and not who is using what. > >So I can't be proactive in solving speed issues I need to wait for it to >happen and then by a process of elimination disconnect segments of the >network and see when the graph drops. I tried TCPDUMP but it is difficult to >understand (perhaps I am just stupid) but it's a time consuming process and >to late to fix the problem. > >I hope this makes sense to someone > >thank you > >Spidey > From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 22 08:16:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B2B316A4CE for ; Thu, 22 Apr 2004 08:16:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from admin.wolfpaw.net (admin.wolfpaw.net [204.209.44.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 49D6143D39 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 2004 08:16:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from admin-lists@wolfpaw.net) Received: (qmail 12961 invoked from network); 22 Apr 2004 15:16:20 -0000 Received: from wolf.wolfpaw.net (HELO wolf) (142.179.166.184) by admin.wolfpaw.net with SMTP; 22 Apr 2004 15:16:20 -0000 From: "Wolfpaw - Dale Corse" To: "'Spidey Knepscheld'" , Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 09:32:06 -0600 Message-ID: <01cf01c4287e$f80edb10$b8a6b38e@wolf> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: Traffic Monitor X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 15:16:21 -0000 Hi Spidey, > My network looks like this: My Link comes in on a Cisco 805 > from the router it goes to the first NIC on the Firewall from > the second NIC it runs into a 10base HUB where there are only > 3 ports used one as I said for the Firewall the other for a > FreeBSD box (I want to use this box for traffic monitoring) > and then one port for the rest of the network which connects > to a 100base switch. The reason I used the 10base HUB is > because it broadcasts all the data to all the ports. So for > all data to and from the firewall will be caught by the > Monitoring BSD box. I hope this makes sense. That is an _extremely_ bad idea. Hubs have major collisions, Meaning you will essentially be lagging yourself (put simply). Personally, I'd go pick up a Cisco switch (1900 / 2900 series) Off Ebay, for about 100 - 200 USD, and then you can set the Switch to "mirror" all traffic to one port, which is great For monitoring things (we do it on a Catalyst 5000 for Snort) > > What I am looking for is some app that could show me live > what ip on my network is utilizing what part of the > bandwidth. Don't laugh !!I have a 256k Diginet connection and > I would like to see who is killing my network. I do get live > graphs from my upstream supplier but it shows the line > utilization from my router and not who is using what. Assuming the above scenario is in place (with the Cisco Switch) I would recommend IOG (http://www.dynw.com/iog/) for "Per Port" monitoring, and if you have access to one of the routers, the absolute best way to monitor bandwidth is using the Cisco Flow Export features. They can tell you a ton about not only who's using what, but where its going, which connection it used (for multi-homing) etc. Not sure if there is an app out there to deal with flow data in that Manner, ours is home-grown. A good place to start looking though is http://www.splintered.net/sw/flow-tools. This daemon will run on Freebsd, and you need it to collect the data. Best of luck with it :) Regards, Dale. -------------------------------- Dale Corse System Administrator Wolfpaw Services Inc. http://www.wolfpaw.net (780) 474-4095 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 22 08:21:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10FA216A4CE for ; Thu, 22 Apr 2004 08:21:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from complx.LF.net (complx.LF.net [212.9.190.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9BE843D31 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 2004 08:21:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lists@complx.LF.net) Received: from lists by complx.LF.net with local (Exim 4.24) id 1BGg15-000LON-Uh; Thu, 22 Apr 2004 17:21:31 +0200 Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 17:21:31 +0200 From: Kurt Jaeger To: Wolfpaw - Dale Corse Message-ID: <20040422152131.GZ55822@complx.LF.net> References: <01cf01c4287e$f80edb10$b8a6b38e@wolf> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <01cf01c4287e$f80edb10$b8a6b38e@wolf> cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org cc: 'Spidey Knepscheld' Subject: Re: Traffic Monitor X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: pi@LF.net List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 15:21:37 -0000 Hi! > > to a 100base switch. The reason I used the 10base HUB is > > because it broadcasts all the data to all the ports. So for > > all data to and from the firewall will be caught by the > > Monitoring BSD box. I hope this makes sense. > > That is an _extremely_ bad idea. Hubs have major collisions, Yes, but he only has a 256 kbit uplink. Therefore, that's OK. -- MfG/Best regards, Kurt Jaeger 16 years to go ! LF.net GmbH fon +49 711 90074-23 pi@LF.net Ruppmannstr. 27 fax +49 711 90074-33 D-70565 Stuttgart mob +49 171 3101372 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 22 08:29:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B377C16A4D0 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 2004 08:29:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from admin.wolfpaw.net (admin.wolfpaw.net [204.209.44.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5160F43D54 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 2004 08:29:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from admin-lists@wolfpaw.net) Received: (qmail 15276 invoked from network); 22 Apr 2004 15:29:32 -0000 Received: from wolf.wolfpaw.net (HELO wolf) (142.179.166.184) by admin.wolfpaw.net with SMTP; 22 Apr 2004 15:29:32 -0000 From: "Wolfpaw - Dale Corse" To: Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 09:45:18 -0600 Message-ID: <01de01c42880$d0255910$b8a6b38e@wolf> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 In-Reply-To: <20040422152131.GZ55822@complx.LF.net> cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org cc: 'Spidey Knepscheld' Subject: RE: Traffic Monitor X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 15:29:33 -0000 Meh.. I guess :P I'm just one of those people that prefers Things run as close to perfect as possible :) D. > -----Original Message----- > From: Kurt Jaeger [mailto:lists@complx.LF.net] > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 9:22 AM > To: Wolfpaw - Dale Corse > Cc: 'Spidey Knepscheld'; freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Traffic Monitor > > > Hi! > > > > to a 100base switch. The reason I used the 10base HUB is > > > because it broadcasts all the data to all the ports. So for > > > all data to and from the firewall will be caught by the > > > Monitoring BSD box. I hope this makes sense. > > > > That is an _extremely_ bad idea. Hubs have major collisions, > > Yes, but he only has a 256 kbit uplink. Therefore, that's OK. > > -- > MfG/Best regards, Kurt Jaeger > 16 years to go ! > LF.net GmbH fon +49 711 90074-23 pi@LF.net > Ruppmannstr. 27 fax +49 711 90074-33 > D-70565 Stuttgart mob +49 171 3101372 > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------- > This message has been scanned for Spam and Viruses by ClamAV > and SpamAssassin > -------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------- > > > From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 22 08:39:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3D2C16A4CF for ; Thu, 22 Apr 2004 08:39:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from flash.mipk.kharkiv.edu (flash.mipk.kharkiv.edu [194.44.157.113]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70B3543D31 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 2004 08:39:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from artem@mipk.kharkiv.edu) Received: from mipk.kharkiv.edu (rainbow.mipk.kharkiv.edu [192.168.9.241]) i3MFZruc066305; Thu, 22 Apr 2004 18:35:53 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from artem@mipk.kharkiv.edu) Message-ID: <4087E658.7030900@mipk.kharkiv.edu> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 18:35:52 +0300 From: Artyom Viklenko Organization: IIAT NTU "KhPI" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: ru, uk, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Spidey Knepscheld References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Traffic Monitor X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 15:39:31 -0000 If you interesting in monitoring uplink connection, you can run some tolls (such as ipaudit, ipcount or something else) directly on the firewall machine. And you didn't need the hub. You can bind such monitoring tool to any NIC on the firewall, but preferably to external. You need bpf in the kernel. Spidey Knepscheld wrote: > Hi > > I am an ISP running FreeBSD as a firewall and as a Mail Server. My problem > is that I am not able to monitor the amount of traffic that user are using > on my network. in south Africa bandwidth is extremely expensive and I need > to take my bandwidth to the edge. > > My network looks like this: My Link comes in on a Cisco 805 from the router > it goes to the first NIC on the Firewall from the second NIC it runs into a > 10base HUB where there are only 3 ports used one as I said for the Firewall > the other for a FreeBSD box (I want to use this box for traffic monitoring) > and then one port for the rest of the network which connects to a 100base > switch. The reason I used the 10base HUB is because it broadcasts all the > data to all the ports. So for all data to and from the firewall will be > caught by the Monitoring BSD box. I hope this makes sense. > -- Sincerely yours, Artyom V. Viklenko. ====================================================== System Administrator artem@mipk.kharkiv.edu ------------------------------------------------------ IIAT NTU "KhPI" 21, Frunze Str., Kharkov Ukraine 61002 Phone: +38 (0572) 400026 Fax: +38 (057) 7062749 ====================================================== From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 22 10:07:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D882716A4CE for ; Thu, 22 Apr 2004 10:07:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.datapro.co.za (mail.uskonet.com [196.3.164.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D320843D53 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 2004 10:07:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from etienne@unix.za.org) Received: from ipass.datapro.co.za (ns2.global-sme.co.za [196.3.167.188]) by smtp.datapro.co.za (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACB261898FE; Thu, 22 Apr 2004 19:07:27 +0200 (SAST) Received: from ThieF.home.unix.za.org (rrba-34-73.telkomadsl.co.za [165.165.34.73]) (authenticated bits=0) by ipass.datapro.co.za (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id i3MH7PAm091913; Thu, 22 Apr 2004 19:07:26 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from etienne@unix.za.org) X-Authentication-Warning: ns2.global-sme.co.za: Host rrba-34-73.telkomadsl.co.za [165.165.34.73] claimed to be ThieF.home.unix.za.org From: Etienne Ledoux To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 19:27:23 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 References: <4087D9F7.10800@telcom.net> In-Reply-To: <4087D9F7.10800@telcom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200404221927.23918.etienne@unix.za.org> cc: 'Spidey Knepscheld' Subject: Re: Traffic Monitor X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 17:07:33 -0000 ntop might not be a bad idea either. check out : http://www.ntop.org/ It's helped many of our clients in the past with similar problems and the cute graphs also makes the bosses happy. e. On Thursday 22 April 2004 16:43, Arie Kachler wrote: > Hi Spidey, > > If you want to go low-cost (free), try http://ipband.sourceforge.net. It > won't let you limit connections that are hogging your bandwidth, but at > least you know who the hogs are. > If you want full bells and whistles, > http://www.packeteer.com/prod-sol/products/packetshaper.cfm. This one > will let you do anything you want. Exprensive but worth it. > > Hope the info helps. > > Arie Kachler > > >Hi > > > >I am an ISP running FreeBSD as a firewall and as a Mail Server. My problem > >is that I am not able to monitor the amount of traffic that user are using > >on my network. in south Africa bandwidth is extremely expensive and I need > >to take my bandwidth to the edge. > > > >My network looks like this: My Link comes in on a Cisco 805 from the > > router it goes to the first NIC on the Firewall from the second NIC it > > runs into a 10base HUB where there are only 3 ports used one as I said > > for the Firewall the other for a FreeBSD box (I want to use this box for > > traffic monitoring) and then one port for the rest of the network which > > connects to a 100base switch. The reason I used the 10base HUB is because > > it broadcasts all the data to all the ports. So for all data to and from > > the firewall will be caught by the Monitoring BSD box. I hope this makes > > sense. > > > >What I am looking for is some app that could show me live what ip on my > >network is utilizing what part of the bandwidth. Don't laugh !!I have a > > 256k Diginet connection and I would like to see who is killing my > > network. I do get live graphs from my upstream supplier but it shows the > > line utilization from my router and not who is using what. > > > >So I can't be proactive in solving speed issues I need to wait for it to > >happen and then by a process of elimination disconnect segments of the > >network and see when the graph drops. I tried TCPDUMP but it is difficult > > to understand (perhaps I am just stupid) but it's a time consuming > > process and to late to fix the problem. > > > >I hope this makes sense to someone > > > >thank you > > > >Spidey > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 22 15:08:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56E2616A4CE for ; Thu, 22 Apr 2004 15:08:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from figg.securenet.com.au (ns2.isecure.com.au [202.125.4.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67BAC43D2F for ; Thu, 22 Apr 2004 15:08:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anwsmh@IPAustralia.Gov.AU) Received: from iron.securenet.com.au (iron.isecure.com.au [202.125.4.94] (may be forged))i3MM8ii3027184; Fri, 23 Apr 2004 08:08:44 +1000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by iron.securenet.com.au (8.12.6/8.12.6) id i3MM8hLJ025178; Fri, 23 Apr 2004 08:08:43 +1000 (EST) Received: from nodnsquery(10.11.3.10) by iron.securenet.com.au via csmap (V6.0) id srcAAA_tailX; Fri, 23 Apr 04 08:08:43 +1000 Received: from vmail.aipo.gov.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) id i3MM8gQv021578; Fri, 23 Apr 2004 08:08:42 +1000 Received: from stan.aipo.gov.au (wf-144.aipo.gov.au [192.168.1.144]) by vmail.aipo.gov.au (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i3MM8ejU056607; Fri, 23 Apr 2004 08:08:41 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from anwsmh@IPAustralia.Gov.AU) Received: from stan.aipo.gov.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by stan.aipo.gov.au (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i3MM8equ000282; Fri, 23 Apr 2004 08:08:41 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from anwsmh@IPAustralia.Gov.AU) Received: (from anwsmh@localhost) by stan.aipo.gov.au (8.12.9p2/8.12.9/Submit) id i3MM8bPe000281; Fri, 23 Apr 2004 08:08:37 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from anwsmh@IPAustralia.Gov.AU) X-Authentication-Warning: stan.aipo.gov.au: anwsmh set sender to anwsmh@IPAustralia.Gov.AU using -f Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 08:08:37 +1000 From: Stanley Hopcroft To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040423080836.A234@IPAustralia.Gov.AU> References: <4087D9F7.10800@telcom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <4087D9F7.10800@telcom.net>; from akachler@telcom.net on Thu, Apr 22, 2004 at 10:43:03AM -0400 cc: Spidey Knepscheld Subject: Re: Traffic Monitor X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 22:08:57 -0000 Dear Folks, On Thu, Apr 22, 2004 at 10:43:03AM -0400, Arie Kachler wrote: > Hi Spidey, > > If you want full bells and whistles, > http://www.packeteer.com/prod-sol/products/packetshaper.cfm. This one > will let you do anything you want. Exprensive but worth it. > if you want - perhaps - slightly less audio visual stimulation, the Exinda appliance (http://www.Exinda.COM) is a cheaper alternative to the Packeteer and also easier to set up. The Exinda is a stoutly built beast with failover NICS. It runs Linux and provides an LCD display, ssh and https interfaces. Reports are downloadable PDFs or can be scheduled for delivery by mail. IIRC, data can be downloaded in CSV format. FWIW, all the products - ntop, Exinda, and ntop all have peculiarities about data extraction. For example Exinda: no SNMP; use web or mail Packeteer: SNMP but useless; use web Ntop: web (or batch unloading of the RRDs) A potential advantage of the appliance approach is that their reports are less likely to be rejected by your provider. My employer uses ntop (a fine product) but only for internal monitoring. BTW, there are some FreeBSD specific gotcahs with ntop (possibly only with source install). Another good cheap product is StatScout (http://www.StatScout.COM), a FreeBSD based software product or possibly appliance. Doesn't do L4 or above but can be used for accounting (usual role is performance and utilisation monitoring). Yours sincerely. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Stanley Hopcroft ------------------------------------------------------------------------ '...No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. If a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as well as if a manor of thy friend's or of thine own were. Any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind; and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee...' from Meditation 17, J Donne. From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 22 16:57:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E05C516A4CE for ; Thu, 22 Apr 2004 16:57:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from psknet.com (kennedy.psknet.com [63.171.251.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A71DD43D2F for ; Thu, 22 Apr 2004 16:57:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from troy@psknet.com) Received: from dilbert.psknet.com ([63.171.251.35] helo=dilbert) by psknet.com with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1BGo4B-000JLc-0n for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Thu, 22 Apr 2004 19:57:15 -0400 From: "Troy Settle" To: Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 19:57:14 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Thread-Index: AcQoxYkoLzgW9obdQd+235R0eiiwTA== Message-Id: Subject: Propel Web Accelleration Server X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 23:57:17 -0000 Anyone have any experience with Propel? Have you managed to get it running on FreeBSD? TIA, -- Troy Settle Pulaski Networks http://www.psknet.com 540.994.4254 ~ 866.477.5638 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 22 23:44:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B991016A4CE for ; Thu, 22 Apr 2004 23:44:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.zvezda.number.ru (inet.zvezda.number.ru [213.247.132.145]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0243E43D55 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 2004 23:44:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blacksir@number.ru) Received: from host212-5-99-220.izmaylovo.ru ([212.5.99.220] helo=blacksir) by mail.zvezda.number.ru with smtp (Exim) id 1BGuQ0-000CdD-D5 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 2004 10:44:14 +0400 From: "Vasenin Alexander aka BlackSir" To: Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 10:44:20 +0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 In-Reply-To: <01cf01c4287e$f80edb10$b8a6b38e@wolf> Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: -100.0 (---------------------------------------------------) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "inet.zvezda.number.ru", hasmessageblock similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: There are also several software implementations of NetFlow exporter. For me the best is ng_netflow written by Gleb Smirnoff. Vasenin Alexander aka BlackSir > Content analysis details: (-100.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description -------------------------------------------------- -100 USER_IN_WHITELIST From: address is in the user's white-list Subject: RE: Traffic Monitor X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 06:44:13 -0000 There are also several software implementations of NetFlow exporter. For me the best is ng_netflow written by Gleb Smirnoff. Vasenin Alexander aka BlackSir > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Wolfpaw - Dale Corse > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 7:32 PM > To: 'Spidey Knepscheld'; freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > Subject: RE: Traffic Monitor ---cut--- > Assuming the above scenario is in place (with the Cisco Switch) > I would recommend IOG (http://www.dynw.com/iog/) for "Per Port" > monitoring, and if you have access to one of the routers, the > absolute best way to monitor bandwidth is using the Cisco Flow Export > features. They can tell you a ton about not only who's using what, > but where its going, which connection it used (for multi-homing) > etc. > > Not sure if there is an app out there to deal with flow data in that > Manner, ours is home-grown. A good place to start looking though > is http://www.splintered.net/sw/flow-tools. This daemon will run on > Freebsd, and you need it to collect the data. ---cut--- From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 23 06:53:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98ACE16A4CE for ; Fri, 23 Apr 2004 06:53:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mta9.adelphia.net (mta9.adelphia.net [68.168.78.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43E5743D45 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 2004 06:53:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Barbish3@adelphia.net) Received: from barbish ([67.20.101.71]) by mta9.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.08 201-253-122-130-108-20031117) with SMTP id <20040423135314.TPTJ26615.mta9.adelphia.net@barbish>; Fri, 23 Apr 2004 09:53:14 -0400 From: "JJB" To: "Gleb Smirnoff" , "Bikrant" Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 09:53:14 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20040422061509.GC78827@cell.sick.ru> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: What is PPPoed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Barbish3@adelphia.net List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 13:53:15 -0000 Gleb I see from the mailing list that you are currently helping Bikrant with his 'pppoed crashed' problem. In 5 years on this list I have not seen pppoed ever mentioned and was even unaware of it's existents. I all ready did my homework reading the man pppoed and googleing. The 'man pppoed' documentation is very cryptic and gives absolutely no insight as to the conditions under which a person would need to use it, as well as no instructions on how to enable it. Not until I read Bikrant's post containing his rc.conf statements did I realize that pppoed was something different that 'user pppoe'. From my search for documentation I am surprised at the fact that Bikrant even found out about the rc.conf statement needed it enable it. I already know that pppoed is different than 'user pppoe'. I know under what conditions someone would use 'user pppoe'. Would you or Bikrant please post any reference web sites or links to documentation on pppoed that you have used to learn about using and configuring pppoed as I would like to learn more about this pppoed function? Could you or Bikrant please explain what need or purpose pppoed is being used to satisfy? Thanks Joe From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 23 10:46:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF1C616A4CE for ; Fri, 23 Apr 2004 10:46:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from master.debian.org (master.debian.org [146.82.138.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEDB643D54 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 2004 10:46:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from srivasta@master.debian.org) Received: from srivasta by master.debian.org with local (Exim 3.35 1 (Debian)) id 1BH4lA-0004Xo-00; Fri, 23 Apr 2004 12:46:44 -0500 From: secretary@debian.org To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-Id: Sender: Manoj Srivastava Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 12:46:44 -0500 Subject: Ballot for Mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 17:46:47 -0000 X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 17:46:47 -0000 Hi, No ballot found for Mail. Hope this helps, Debian Project secretary (secretary@debian.org)