From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 16 11:07:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53A9616A4CE for ; Sun, 16 May 2004 11:07:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.tcworks.net (mail.tcworks.net [216.61.218.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A535543D46 for ; Sun, 16 May 2004 11:07:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ccook@arkansasdoc.com) Received: from rafael (dhcp47-38.cable.conwaycorp.net [24.144.47.38] (may be forged)) by mail.tcworks.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i4GI7uBN098764; Sun, 16 May 2004 13:07:57 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ccook@arkansasdoc.com) From: "Chris Cook" To: "'Evan Sayer'" , Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 13:08:44 -0500 Message-ID: <35E250E480C0C840A47E3473C0F870011E96@stpeter.roma.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-RAVMilter-Version: 8.4.1(snapshot 20020920) (mail.tcworks.net) Subject: RE: Modem Pool X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 18:07:59 -0000 What you are looking for is called a HUNT GROUP or ROLLOVER line, a hunt group usually consists of multiple Channelized T1 or PRI lines that all answer at the same number, a rollover line is usually multiple individual POTS (analog) lines that "rollover" to the next if the line is busy with a call. This has nothing to do with FreeBSD, it is all dealt with by the telephone company. FreeBSD talks directly to the terminating device (modem), not the phone line. -- Chris Cook CompuDoc of Arkansas http://www.arkansasdoc.com 501-697-1712 -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Evan Sayer Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 5:20 PM To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Modem Pool Hello- I have a question about modem pools. If I have several dial in lines, and I want them to be acessable via one number, is a modem pool what I want? How exactly do they work and is freebsd equipped to handle them? Thanks. _______________________________________________ freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 16 17:43:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B96416A4CE for ; Sun, 16 May 2004 17:43:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ioda-txdap01.iodamedia.net (mail.iodamedia.net [64.5.44.222]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8406843D1D for ; Sun, 16 May 2004 17:43:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shawnm@iodamedia.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ioda-txdap01.iodamedia.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D39C234D49; Sun, 16 May 2004 19:35:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from zeus (CPE-24-166-186-253.kc.rr.com [24.166.186.253]) by ioda-txdap01.iodamedia.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 0D99F34D23; Sun, 16 May 2004 19:35:15 -0500 (CDT) From: "Shawn Mitchell" To: "Chris Cook" , "'Evan Sayer'" , Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 19:43:07 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <35E250E480C0C840A47E3473C0F870011E96@stpeter.roma.local> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS 0.3.12 Subject: RE: Modem Pool X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 00:43:18 -0000 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=11186&item=3096270363 &rd=1 1500 bucks, supports 192 modems out of the gate, I think they max out at a few thousand modems. Setup a FreeBSD box as a router/radius/dns/etc server, don't worry about it answering modems. If you want to support anything other than 28.8k modems (i.e. 56k modems), you'll have to have your inbound lines as DS-1/PRI lines. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Chris Cook Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2004 1:09 PM To: 'Evan Sayer'; freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Modem Pool What you are looking for is called a HUNT GROUP or ROLLOVER line, a hunt group usually consists of multiple Channelized T1 or PRI lines that all answer at the same number, a rollover line is usually multiple individual POTS (analog) lines that "rollover" to the next if the line is busy with a call. This has nothing to do with FreeBSD, it is all dealt with by the telephone company. FreeBSD talks directly to the terminating device (modem), not the phone line. -- Chris Cook CompuDoc of Arkansas http://www.arkansasdoc.com 501-697-1712 -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Evan Sayer Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 5:20 PM To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Modem Pool Hello- I have a question about modem pools. If I have several dial in lines, and I want them to be acessable via one number, is a modem pool what I want? How exactly do they work and is freebsd equipped to handle them? Thanks. _______________________________________________ freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" _______________________________________________ freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 17 06:39:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D95E16A4CE for ; Mon, 17 May 2004 06:39:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from psknet.com (kennedy.psknet.com [63.171.251.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC18943D39 for ; Mon, 17 May 2004 06:39:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from troy@psknet.com) Received: from pool-151-199-105-175.roa.east.verizon.net ([151.199.105.175] helo=tws) by psknet.com with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.20) id 1BPiLP-000ANw-4i; Mon, 17 May 2004 09:39:51 -0400 From: "Troy Settle" To: "'Shawn Mitchell'" , "'Chris Cook'" , "'Evan Sayer'" , Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 09:38:04 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Thread-Index: AcQ7qABf0TYzWnolRkeuR7O4iHmESwAad2Ig In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Subject: RE: Modem Pool X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 13:39:56 -0000 I agree with Shawn. While FreeBSD /can/ terminate dialup connections, it's not a very fun thing to do. You're limited to v34, and probably 16 or 32 max connections. For the price of the multi-port serial board and modems, you can have a much nicer solution. Anyone terminating more than 2 or 3 dialup connections directly on FreeBSD boxes is either crazy, or has had their system running for more than a few years. For a very affordable way in, check out the Max 6000: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=11186&item=3095985718 &rd=1 You won't get v92 on this sucker, but it will support v90 quite well. An excellent entry-level platform. Also look for Portmaster 3. They go for about the same price, and supposedly the source is being maintained (check out http://www.portmasters.com). The TNT Shawn posted has a DS0 backplane of less than 1024 channels, which is the theoritical max. I would not suggest going much past a single T3 (768 channels) or two E3s (960) channels. The nice thing about the TNT, is that if you build it with the right cards, you can eventually move them to the APX platform, which does max out at several thousand ports, some 8,192 of them. My own migration pattern was to go from 2 6096's to the TNT. I'm currently about 2/3 full on the TNT. When/if I hit 1100 or so ports in a single huntgroup, I'll move up to the APX8000 or 8100. For more info on the APX/TNT/MAX/PM3 platforms, check out http://www.lucent.com/support/documentation.html (click on general access). -- Troy Settle Pulaski Networks http://www.psknet.com 866.477.5638 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Shawn Mitchell > Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2004 8:43 PM > To: Chris Cook; 'Evan Sayer'; freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > Subject: RE: Modem Pool > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=11186&i > tem=3096270363 > &rd=1 > > 1500 bucks, supports 192 modems out of the gate, I think they > max out at a > few thousand modems. > > Setup a FreeBSD box as a router/radius/dns/etc server, don't > worry about it > answering modems. > > If you want to support anything other than 28.8k modems (i.e. > 56k modems), > you'll have to have your inbound lines as DS-1/PRI lines. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Chris Cook > Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2004 1:09 PM > To: 'Evan Sayer'; freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > Subject: RE: Modem Pool > > > What you are looking for is called a HUNT GROUP or ROLLOVER > line, a hunt > group usually consists of multiple Channelized T1 or PRI > lines that all > answer at the same number, a rollover line is usually > multiple individual > POTS (analog) lines that "rollover" to the next if the line > is busy with a > call. > > This has nothing to do with FreeBSD, it is all dealt with by > the telephone > company. FreeBSD talks directly to the terminating device > (modem), not the > phone line. > > -- > Chris Cook > CompuDoc of Arkansas > http://www.arkansasdoc.com > 501-697-1712 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org] > On Behalf Of Evan Sayer > Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 5:20 PM > To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > Subject: Modem Pool > > > Hello- > I have a question about modem pools. If I have several dial in > lines, and I want them to be acessable via one number, is a modem pool > what I want? How exactly do they work and is freebsd equipped to > handle them? Thanks. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 17 08:09:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0160516A4D6 for ; Mon, 17 May 2004 08:09:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mxb.saturn-tech.com (mxb.saturn-tech.com [207.229.19.99]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C88AC43D5E for ; Mon, 17 May 2004 08:09:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drussell@saturn-tech.com) Received: from mxb.saturn-tech.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mxb.saturn-tech.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id i4HF9vvi091444; Mon, 17 May 2004 09:09:57 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from drussell@saturn-tech.com) Received: from localhost (drussell@localhost)i4HF9tmt091441; Mon, 17 May 2004 09:09:55 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from drussell@saturn-tech.com) X-Authentication-Warning: mxb.saturn-tech.com: drussell owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 09:09:55 -0600 (MDT) From: Doug Russell To: Troy Settle In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040517090120.C91225-100000@mxb.saturn-tech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org cc: 'Chris Cook' cc: 'Evan Sayer' Subject: RE: Modem Pool X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 15:09:40 -0000 On Mon, 17 May 2004, Troy Settle wrote: > I agree with Shawn. While FreeBSD /can/ terminate dialup connections, it's > not a very fun thing to do. You're limited to v34, and probably 16 or 32 > max connections. For the price of the multi-port serial board and modems, > you can have a much nicer solution. Anyone terminating more than 2 or 3 > dialup connections directly on FreeBSD boxes is either crazy, or has had > their system running for more than a few years. > > > If you want to support anything other than 28.8k modems (i.e. > > 56k modems), > > you'll have to have your inbound lines as DS-1/PRI lines. Evan, If you are looking for a smallish system, and you want to be able to handle digital connections (including 56K analog dial-ups), you can also use ISDN lines (BRI) if they are available in your area (should be available anywhere) to be able to add lines two at a time instead of 24 at a time with a T1 (PRI). Here in Calgary, the rotary (hunt group) is included in the ISDN line cost. For hardware, you'd need anything from a few of the S/T interface version of the USR I-Modem with external NT-1s (using the regular U interface version with the built-in NT-1 won't work when you want to put two separate modems on the two separate B-channels on the ISDN line) to something like the USR Modem Pool/8 or MP/16 with multi-port serial cards, if you want your FreeBSD host to actually act as the ppp server. A better solution is to get an old USR Netserver/8 or Netserver/16, which is a modem pool with an internal 486SX machine that does the server job for you and has all 16 serial ports on-board. 3Com also made the RAS1500 based on the same technology, but I've had reliability problems with them. My original one died when the first caller called in after a firmware upgrade (luckily about a month before the warranty expired), and the replacement flaked out about a year later. It seems to have a bad SRAM on the board, but I've never hunted down the problem chip... I'm using my Netserver/16 instead. Obviously, other companies made similar systems.... These are examples. Later...... From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 17 10:37:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF70816A4CE for ; Mon, 17 May 2004 10:37:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.citytel.net (gumby.citytel.net [204.244.98.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85A9D43D1D for ; Mon, 17 May 2004 10:37:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kwoody@citytel.net) Received: from pop.citytel.net (pop.citytel.net [204.244.98.50]) by gumby.citytel.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A010023734A for ; Mon, 17 May 2004 10:37:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 10:37:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Keith Woodworth To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Server with largish disks X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 17:37:36 -0000 We are looking at putting in a newish server to replace an aging one. Its a POP3/Webmail machine, running BSD/OS One I'd like has 4 x 9gig and 4 x 18gig drives, 2 x 733mhz cpus. Only have about 2500+ active mail accounts on this machine but it is running low on space and we have lots of those accounts being access'd via Openwebmail. Mail spool is /var/mail Question is what would be a good way to partition the drives in the above configuration? I would like acutally to use 3 x 18 gig drives as /var with the 4th as the hotspare and the rest of the file systems (/ /usr) on 3 x 9gig with the 4th as hotspace. Is this a workable way to do it? Also since this has dual cpu's, how is the SMP support in FBSD 5.2? ie: how stable is it? Will the OS take advantage of having the two cpu's? Or would that depend on the software (Postfix, Qpopper (though that maybe replaced) ) to use the xtra cpu? Thanks, Keith From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 17 20:40:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8572916A4CE for ; Mon, 17 May 2004 20:40:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ironman.tuckerlabs.com (ironman.tuckerlabs.com [64.113.4.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17D9043D60 for ; Mon, 17 May 2004 20:40:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wtucker@donobi.com) Received: from ironman.tuckerlabs.com (localhost.tuckerlabs.com [127.0.0.1]) i4I3emDi019826 for ; Tue, 18 May 2004 03:40:48 GMT (envelope-from wtucker@donobi.com) Received: (from wtucker@localhost) by ironman.tuckerlabs.com (8.12.9p2/8.12.9/Submit) id i4I3ekTb019825 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Mon, 17 May 2004 20:40:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wtucker@donobi.com) X-Authentication-Warning: ironman.tuckerlabs.com: wtucker set sender to wtucker@donobi.com using -f Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 20:40:46 -0700 From: Wayne Tucker To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040518034046.GI14871@ironman.tuckerlabs.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Subject: Re: Server with largish disks X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 03:40:50 -0000 On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 10:37:35AM -0700, Keith Woodworth wrote: > One I'd like has 4 x 9gig and 4 x 18gig drives, 2 x 733mhz cpus. > > Only have about 2500+ active mail accounts on this machine but it is > running low on space and we have lots of those accounts being access'd via > Openwebmail. > > Mail spool is /var/mail > > Question is what would be a good way to partition the drives in the above > configuration? > > I would like acutally to use 3 x 18 gig drives as /var with the 4th > as the hotspare and the rest of the file systems (/ /usr) on 3 x 9gig > with the 4th as hotspace. That would work, although I would recommend altering your scheme slightly: use the 18GB array (3x9GB + hot spare, assuming you're doing RAID 5) for /, swap, /tmp, /var, /usr, and then dedicate the 36GB array to /var/mail. This will allow those spindles to occupy themselves with mail and not have to worry about things like log files. (Keep in mind that some software, especially IMAP and webmail apps, also store mail under the user's $HOME, so that may affect your disk layout as well.) > Is this a workable way to do it? Also since this has dual cpu's, how is > the SMP support in FBSD 5.2? ie: how stable is it? > > Will the OS take advantage of having the two cpu's? Or would that depend > on the software (Postfix, Qpopper (though that maybe replaced) ) to use > the xtra cpu? I haven't used 5.2 in production yet, but I have used it on a couple of test systems (and my workstation) without problems. The programs you mentioned all use multiple processes (and/or threads), so the operating system (even 4.x) should be able to distribute them between the CPU's without any trouble. Best wishes, Wayne -- Wayne A. Tucker Sr. Network Engineer, Aspiring Guru wtucker@donobi.com DONOBI, Inc. +1-360-473-1169 "The Internet Solutions Company" From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 17 21:20:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 543E616A4CE for ; Mon, 17 May 2004 21:20:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zoot.lafn.org (zoot.lafn.ORG [206.117.18.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94BAC43D5C for ; Mon, 17 May 2004 21:20:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from [10.0.1.90] (host-66-81-199-64.rev.o1.com [66.81.199.64]) (authenticated bits=0) by zoot.lafn.org (8.12.3p3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id i4I4K06Y054542 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 17 May 2004 21:20:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v613) In-Reply-To: <20040518034046.GI14871@ironman.tuckerlabs.com> References: <20040518034046.GI14871@ironman.tuckerlabs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Doug Hardie Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 21:19:59 -0700 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.613) X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version 0.70, clamav-milter version 0.70j Subject: Re: Server with largish disks X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 04:20:09 -0000 On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 10:37:35AM -0700, Keith Woodworth wrote: > One I'd like has 4 x 9gig and 4 x 18gig drives, 2 x 733mhz cpus. > > Only have about 2500+ active mail accounts on this machine but it is > running low on space and we have lots of those accounts being access'd > via > Openwebmail. > > Mail spool is /var/mail > > Question is what would be a good way to partition the drives in the > above > configuration? > > I would like acutally to use 3 x 18 gig drives as /var with the 4th > as the hotspare and the rest of the file systems (/ /usr) on 3 x 9gig > with the 4th as hotspace. You may want to reconsider holding all mail in one directory. My mail system was originally setup that way and researching problems was always quite time consuming. ls tends to be a bit slow in those situations as to a number of other utilities. I have 100 directories of home directories (named 00 through 99). User's home directories are randomly distributed between the directories and mailboxes are stored in the user's home directory. From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 18 16:12:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AE5E16A6A8 for ; Tue, 18 May 2004 16:12:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from antyk.obta.uw.edu.pl (antyk.obta.uw.edu.pl [193.0.78.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DCC0440F8 for ; Tue, 18 May 2004 14:48:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mcson@obta.uw.edu.pl) Received: from pu26.warszawa.cvx.ppp.tpnet.pl (pu26.warszawa.cvx.ppp.tpnet.pl [217.99.4.26]) by antyk.obta.uw.edu.pl (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i4ILhvQC022676 for ; Tue, 18 May 2004 23:43:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mcson@obta.uw.edu.pl) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 23:48:34 +0200 From: Maksymilian Wrzesinski X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.49) Personal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <32525686.20040518234834@obta.uw.edu.pl> To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Subject: raid backup X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Maksymilian Wrzesinski List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 23:12:41 -0000 hello, what would you recommend as good (and cheap) solution for backup raid? i need two 120gb hard disks connected in a proper mode to the controller to back up one another. what chips on controllers are fast and reliable - and still being cheaplike silicon image ata controllers? are they supoorted by freebsd? tia, -- Pozdrowienia, Maksymilian mailto:mcson@obta.uw.edu.pl From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 19 16:28:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D85C16A4CE for ; Wed, 19 May 2004 16:28:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail15.txucom.net (mail15.txucom.net [207.70.175.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A86D743D48 for ; Wed, 19 May 2004 16:28:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bob@buckhorn.net) Received: (qmail 11089 invoked from network); 19 May 2004 23:26:10 -0000 Received: from lfkn-adsl-dhcp-net1-197.txucom.net (HELO tardis.buckhorn.net) ([207.70.145.197]) (envelope-sender ) by mail15.txucom.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 19 May 2004 23:26:10 -0000 Received: from buckhorn.net (localhost.buckhorn.net [127.0.0.1]) by tardis.buckhorn.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74B471B8F00 for ; Wed, 19 May 2004 17:54:10 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <40ABE592.1010607@buckhorn.net> Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 17:54:10 -0500 From: Bob Martin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i386; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: List of dynamic IP's X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 23:28:53 -0000 Does anyone know of a list of dynamic IP's by ISP? I'm looking for something akin to this list from AOL http://postmaster.info.aol.com/info/servers.html TIA Bob Martin From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 19 17:36:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D230116A4CE for ; Wed, 19 May 2004 17:36:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from otter3.centtech.com (moat3.centtech.com [207.200.51.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37CE143D39 for ; Wed, 19 May 2004 17:36:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from centtech.com ([192.168.42.25]) by otter3.centtech.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id i4K0ZxE8072876; Wed, 19 May 2004 19:35:59 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Message-ID: <40ABFD52.4010206@centtech.com> Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 19:35:30 -0500 From: Eric Anderson User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.5 (X11/20040406) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bob Martin References: <40ABE592.1010607@buckhorn.net> In-Reply-To: <40ABE592.1010607@buckhorn.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: List of dynamic IP's X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 00:36:31 -0000 Bob Martin wrote: > Does anyone know of a list of dynamic IP's by ISP? > I'm looking for something akin to this list from AOL > http://postmaster.info.aol.com/info/servers.html Arin? http://ws.arin.net/cgi-bin/whois.pl It doesn't show dynamic versus static, but.. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Eric Anderson Sr. Systems Administrator Centaur Technology Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday. ------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 19 18:25:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A4E016A4CE for ; Wed, 19 May 2004 18:25:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from a2.scoop.co.nz (aurora.scoop.co.nz [203.96.152.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 816FC43D45 for ; Wed, 19 May 2004 18:25:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew@scoop.co.nz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by a2.scoop.co.nz (8.12.8p2/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i4K1PWLZ085704; Thu, 20 May 2004 13:25:32 +1200 (NZST) (envelope-from andrew@scoop.co.nz) Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 13:25:32 +1200 (NZST) From: Andrew McNaughton To: Bob Martin In-Reply-To: <40ABE592.1010607@buckhorn.net> Message-ID: <20040520131546.M12223@a2.scoop.co.nz> References: <40ABE592.1010607@buckhorn.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: List of dynamic IP's X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 01:25:42 -0000 On Wed, 19 May 2004, Bob Martin wrote: > Does anyone know of a list of dynamic IP's by ISP? > I'm looking for something akin to this list from AOL > http://postmaster.info.aol.com/info/servers.html Not by ISP, no. The dynablock rbl listing comes close though, and may suit your intended purpose? See http://dnsbl.njabl.org/use.html for some info on the dynablock.njabl.org list, including info on how to obtain a copy of the whole listing. Andrew McNaughton -- No added Sugar. Not tested on animals. May contain traces of Nuts. If irritation occurs, discontinue use. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Andrew McNaughton Living in a shack in Tasmania andrew@scoop.co.nz Between the bush and the sea Mobile: +61 422 753 792 http://staff.scoop.co.nz/andrew/cv.doc From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 20 01:22:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C41E16A4CE for ; Thu, 20 May 2004 01:22:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from paris60.amenworld.com (paris60.amenworld.com [62.193.203.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94A4943D45 for ; Thu, 20 May 2004 01:22:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mail@paris60.amenworld.com) Received: (from mail@localhost) by paris60.amenworld.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) id i4K8LeF14640; Thu, 20 May 2004 10:21:40 +0200 Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 10:21:40 +0200 Message-Id: <200405200821.i4K8LeF14640@paris60.amenworld.com> From: noreply@www.soleacom.com To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Precedence: Subject: Automated reply from noreply@www.soleacom.com X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 08:22:01 -0000 DO NOT REPLY AUTO EMAIL The "support" adress no longer exist, please use "eurosupport" instead. Thanks. L'adresse "support" n'existe plus, utilisez "eurosupport" à la place. Merci. Die "support" adress nicht mehr bestehen, gefallen Gebrauch "eurosupport" anstatt. Danke. Los adress de la "support" existen, satisfacen no más de largo el uso "eurosupport" en lugar de otro. Grazias. I adress "support" più esistono, non soddisfano l'uso "eurosupport" preferibilmente. Grazie. 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From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 20 14:27:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A928A16A4CE for ; Thu, 20 May 2004 14:27:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.sandvine.com (sandvine.com [199.243.201.138]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 375DA43D31 for ; Thu, 20 May 2004 14:27:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from don@sandvine.com) Received: by mail.sandvine.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Wed, 19 May 2004 20:58:54 -0400 Message-ID: From: Don Bowman To: 'Bob Martin' , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 20:58:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: RE: List of dynamic IP's X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 21:27:14 -0000 From: Bob Martin [mailto:bob@buckhorn.net] > Does anyone know of a list of dynamic IP's by ISP? > I'm looking for something akin to this list from AOL > http://postmaster.info.aol.com/info/servers.html > SORBS has this i think. http://www.dnsbl.us.sorbs.net/ From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 22 00:35:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 110D216A4CE for ; Sat, 22 May 2004 00:35:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp25.singnet.com.sg (smtp25.singnet.com.sg [165.21.101.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02BFD43D2F for ; Sat, 22 May 2004 00:35:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shanali@blanc.magix.com.sg) Received: from blanc.magix.com.sg (blanc.magix.com.sg [202.166.43.1]) i4M7YfM9005589; Sat, 22 May 2004 15:34:41 +0800 Received: (from shanali@localhost) by blanc.magix.com.sg (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i4M7WOPD090386; Sat, 22 May 2004 15:32:24 +0800 (SGT) (envelope-from shanali) Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 15:32:24 +0800 From: S H A N To: SaJaRi Message-ID: <20040522073224.GA90160@blanc.magix.com.sg> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gif interface X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 07:35:22 -0000 2147483647 is the current theoretical limit. S H A N On Thu May 13, 2004 at 04:01:03PM SGT, SaJaRi wrote: > > Hi there! > > Is there a limit to the number of gif interface (tunnel interface) that > can be created? > From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 22 00:40:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B9D216A4CE for ; Sat, 22 May 2004 00:40:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp14.singnet.com.sg (smtp14.singnet.com.sg [165.21.6.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D216543D46 for ; Sat, 22 May 2004 00:40:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shanali@blanc.magix.com.sg) Received: from blanc.magix.com.sg (blanc.magix.com.sg [202.166.43.1]) i4M7dB4V003698 for ; Sat, 22 May 2004 15:39:11 +0800 Received: (from shanali@localhost) by blanc.magix.com.sg (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i4M7anxs090491 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Sat, 22 May 2004 15:36:49 +0800 (SGT) (envelope-from shanali) Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 15:36:49 +0800 From: S H A N To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040522073649.GB90160@blanc.magix.com.sg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: recommendation for NMS X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 07:40:32 -0000 hi list, i am looking for a NMS for monitoring/reporting FreeBSD boxes? would like to know u'r experiences/suggestions. rgds, S H A N From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 22 08:54:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20C8616A4CE for ; Sat, 22 May 2004 08:54:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mta8.adelphia.net (mta8.adelphia.net [68.168.78.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3B5E43D4C for ; Sat, 22 May 2004 08:54:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([67.20.101.71]) by mta13.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.08 201-253-122-130-108-20031117) with SMTP id <20040522153901.OMDT13425.mta13.adelphia.net@barbish> for ; Sat, 22 May 2004 11:39:01 -0400 From: "fbsd_user" To: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD. ORG" Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 11:39:00 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Subject: Abuse reporting based on whois X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 15:54:28 -0000 My ipfilter firewall is blocking 35 to 150 un-solicited inbound port packets per minute coming from all over the world. I have an dynamic IP address assigned by my ISP, so I know the senders are scanning an whole subnet range of IP address for the ports they are interested in. I have to pay for this background packet noise in bandwidth usage surcharges. I decided to research and try to build an process to report this abuse to the ISP's who own the source IP address that is scanning the whole subnet ranges of IP address I belong to. I pieced together an perl script from many other sources that reads the ipfilter ipmon log creating an structured file with the source and target ip address padded with zeros to sort the source ip address into sequence, then I read the sorted file and do an whois lookup on the source ip address and scan the whois output for an abuse@ domain name building an email including the log records as evidence and send it. This process only found abuse@ email address for about 30% of the abusive port scan traffic being blocked. Manually doing whois on some of the remainder, I see many different reporting abuse email address. I guess abuse@ is not an standard naming convention. An I going about this the correct way, or is there some other way I should be doing this? Is whois ip addr the only way to find the owner of the ip address block? Do any of the readers of this list have an perl script that does something like what I an trying to do, that they would share, or exchange in return for receiving an copy of mine? I have been down the www.dshield.comm path already and they do nothing to report all the port targeted packet traffic. Any comments sure would be helpful. Thanks From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 22 11:10:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24AEB16A4D1 for ; Sat, 22 May 2004 11:10:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.enyo.de (mail.enyo.de [212.9.189.167]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CC6143D39 for ; Sat, 22 May 2004 11:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fw@deneb.enyo.de) Received: (debugging) helo=deneb ip=212.9.189.171 name=deneb.enyo.de Received: from deneb.enyo.de ([212.9.189.171] helo=deneb) by mail.enyo.de with esmtp id 1BRaw1-0006RC-Ee; Sat, 22 May 2004 20:09:25 +0200 Received: from fw by deneb with local (Exim 4.34) id 1BRaw0-0002f4-1W; Sat, 22 May 2004 20:09:24 +0200 To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com References: From: Florian Weimer Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 20:09:24 +0200 In-Reply-To: (fbsd user's message of "Sat, 22 May 2004 11:39:00 -0400") Message-ID: <87r7tctju3.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: Re: Abuse reporting based on whois X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 18:10:02 -0000 * fbsd user: > My ipfilter firewall is blocking 35 to 150 un-solicited inbound > port packets per minute coming from all over the world. I have an > dynamic IP address assigned by my ISP, so I know the senders are > scanning an whole subnet range of IP address for the ports they are > interested in. I have to pay for this background packet noise in > bandwidth usage surcharges. I decided to research and try to build > an process to report this abuse to the ISP's who own the source IP > address that is scanning the whole subnet ranges of IP address I > belong to. A significant part of those scans have spoofed source addresses. Unless you complete a three-way handshake (for TCP scans only, of course) and thus validate the source address, your observations are probably not worth reporting. -- Current mail filters: many dial-up/DSL/cable modem hosts, and the following domains: bigpond.com, di-ve.com, hotmail.com, jumpy.it, libero.it, netscape.net, postino.it, simplesnet.pt, spymac.com, tatanova.com, tiscali.co.uk, tiscali.cz, tiscali.it, voila.fr, yahoo.com. From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 22 11:33:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 487FB16A4CE for ; Sat, 22 May 2004 11:33:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mta9.adelphia.net (mta9.adelphia.net [68.168.78.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98EE343D1F for ; Sat, 22 May 2004 11:33:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish ([67.20.101.71]) by mta9.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.08 201-253-122-130-108-20031117) with SMTP id <20040522183343.UQHQ26615.mta9.adelphia.net@barbish>; Sat, 22 May 2004 14:33:43 -0400 From: "fbsd_user" To: "Florian Weimer" , Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 14:33:42 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <87r7tctju3.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 cc: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: RE: Abuse reporting based on whois X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 18:33:56 -0000 If the source ips are spoofed, what purpose do they do other than consume bandwidth. I believe the senders are script kiddies probing for know ports that backdoors, spyware or Trojans are know to use. -----Original Message----- From: Florian Weimer [mailto:fw@deneb.enyo.de] Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 2:09 PM To: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD. ORG Subject: Re: Abuse reporting based on whois * fbsd user: > My ipfilter firewall is blocking 35 to 150 un-solicited inbound > port packets per minute coming from all over the world. I have an > dynamic IP address assigned by my ISP, so I know the senders are > scanning an whole subnet range of IP address for the ports they are > interested in. I have to pay for this background packet noise in > bandwidth usage surcharges. I decided to research and try to build > an process to report this abuse to the ISP's who own the source IP > address that is scanning the whole subnet ranges of IP address I > belong to. A significant part of those scans have spoofed source addresses. Unless you complete a three-way handshake (for TCP scans only, of course) and thus validate the source address, your observations are probably not worth reporting. -- Current mail filters: many dial-up/DSL/cable modem hosts, and the following domains: bigpond.com, di-ve.com, hotmail.com, jumpy.it, libero.it, netscape.net, postino.it, simplesnet.pt, spymac.com, tatanova.com, tiscali.co.uk, tiscali.cz, tiscali.it, voila.fr, yahoo.com. From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 22 17:48:04 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E94816A4CE for ; Sat, 22 May 2004 17:48:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp3b.sentex.ca (smtp3b.sentex.ca [205.211.164.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0F6843D31 for ; Sat, 22 May 2004 17:48:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from smtp1.sentex.ca (smtp1.sentex.ca [199.212.134.4]) by smtp3b.sentex.ca (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i4N0lIeU065335; Sat, 22 May 2004 20:47:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from BLUELAPIS.sentex.ca (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by smtp1.sentex.ca (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id i4N0lGAY013527; Sat, 22 May 2004 20:47:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) From: Mike Tancsa To: S H A N Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 20:47:29 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20040522073649.GB90160@blanc.magix.com.sg> In-Reply-To: <20040522073649.GB90160@blanc.magix.com.sg> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: recommendation for NMS X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 00:48:04 -0000 Have a look at http://sguil.sourceforge.net/ ---Mike >hi list, > > i am looking for a NMS for monitoring/reporting FreeBSD boxes?=20 > would like to know u'r experiences/suggestions. > >rgds, > >S H A N >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"