From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 12 19:37:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C1D016A4CE for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 19:37:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from illustrious.cnchost.com (illustrious.concentric.net [207.155.252.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 519D943D5E for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 19:37:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kgupta@edgefocus.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (c-66-229-167-137.we.client2.attbi.com [66.229.167.137]) by illustrious.cnchost.com id PAA01948; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 15:37:00 -0400 (EDT) [ConcentricHost SMTP Relay 1.17] Errors-To: Message-ID: <4144A55B.3060001@edgefocus.com> Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 12:36:59 -0700 From: karan Gupta User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (Windows/20040803) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: tcpdump analysis help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 19:37:00 -0000 Is 10.0.152.48 effected with a virus? 02:51:50.894049 10.0.152.48.2571 > 10.0.115.155.microsoft-ds: S 1261718342:1261718342(0) win 64240 (DF) 02:51:50.895143 10.0.152.48.2572 > 10.7.150.60.microsoft-ds: S 1261751763:1261751763(0) win 64240 (DF) 02:51:50.898141 10.0.152.48.2574 > 10.80.161.154.microsoft-ds: S 1261816449:1261816449(0) win 64240 (DF) 02:51:50.899493 10.0.152.48.2575 > 10.45.11.191.microsoft-ds: S 1261854044:1261854044(0) win 64240 (DF) 02:51:50.900317 10.0.152.48.2578 > 10.0.163.64.microsoft-ds: S 1261888223:1261888223(0) win 64240 (DF) 02:51:50.902351 10.0.152.48.2579 > 10.39.162.137.microsoft-ds: S 1261944092:1261944092(0) win 64240 (DF) 02:51:50.904626 10.0.152.48.2580 > 10.0.141.110.microsoft-ds: S 1262000760:1262000760(0) win 64240 (DF) Regds Karan Gupta From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 12 19:45:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35CAF16A4CF for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 19:45:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from otter3.centtech.com (moat3.centtech.com [207.200.51.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B02143D1D for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 19:45:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from [192.168.42.25] ([192.168.42.25]) by otter3.centtech.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id i8CJjGCw099742; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 14:45:16 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Message-ID: <4144A740.2000505@centtech.com> Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 14:45:04 -0500 From: Eric Anderson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040813 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: karan Gupta References: <4144A55B.3060001@edgefocus.com> In-Reply-To: <4144A55B.3060001@edgefocus.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tcpdump analysis help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 19:45:24 -0000 karan Gupta wrote: > Is 10.0.152.48 effected with a virus? Yes - look at the processes running, and look for scrgrd.exe. Kill it, remove ALL related registry entries, then do this: cd c:\windows\system32 attrib -r -s -a -h scrgrd.exe del scrgrd.exe -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Eric Anderson Sr. Systems Administrator Centaur Technology Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish. ------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 13 09:33:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 728E616A4CE for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 09:33:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailbox.wingercom.dk (mail.julie.gl [81.19.240.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2FB443D5A for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 09:33:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from per@xterm.dk) Received: from mailbox.wingercom.dk (localhost.wingercom.dk [127.0.0.1]) by mailbox.wingercom.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id AEF729323E for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 11:37:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 62.242.151.142 (SquirrelMail authenticated user per) by mailbox.wingercom.dk with HTTP; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 11:37:49 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <54557.62.242.151.142.1095068269.squirrel@mailbox.wingercom.dk> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 11:37:49 +0200 (CEST) From: "Per Engelbrecht" To: X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.5) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: src update without console access X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 09:33:41 -0000 Hi All The company where I'm working, are selling FreeBSD (5.2.1) installations in a dedicated serverhosting environment. When updating 'src' customers are adviced to use "standard" procedure i.e. cvsup. The problem is that customers don't have console access while in single-user mode ! (can't run installworld, mergemaster) I've tested an upgrade from a running system (killing sendmail first, no attached users) with poor result .. 'mergemaster -p' and 'mergemaster' only found a diff in /etc/motd and 'uname -a' didn't show any system changes after a reboot. In obsd I'm used to run a "clean" cvs, building and installing from a running system. I can't expect customers to go through that procedure so I was hoping that any you guys could help me with a solution for the customers? I've bee searching the archives and found a lot of stuff on keeping fbsd serverfarms up to date with PXE - very nice, but not an option. (we have a large PXE setup running allready for new installations) respectfully /per per@xterm.dk From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 13 10:00:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E003816A4CE for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 10:00:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from exhsto1.se.dataphone.com (exhsto1.se.dataphone.com [212.37.6.239]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90D2B43D41 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 10:00:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from patrik.forsberg@dataphone.net) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.6944.0 Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 12:00:02 +0200 Message-ID: <375DD163B075E34EA3C10A6286E34A5464B8CE@exhsto1.se.dataphone.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: src update without console access Thread-Index: AcSZdM9Ho9g5/nHBRJKAX6uvUQI3gQAAoZ9w From: "Patrik Forsberg" To: Subject: RE: src update without console access X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 10:00:09 -0000 > The problem is that customers don't have console access while in > single-user mode ! (can't run installworld, mergemaster) > I've tested an upgrade from a running system (killing=20 > sendmail first, no > attached users) with poor result .. 'mergemaster -p' and=20 > 'mergemaster' > only found a diff in /etc/motd and 'uname -a' didn't show any system > changes after a reboot. I've ran FreeBSD for quite some time and usaly you dont need acual console access to the server to update it. The only problem I've ran into so far is updating from FreeBSD 5.0 to 5.2.1 .. for some reason the tcsh update didnt work and crunched the whole installation... anyways... Normally I simply run mergemaster -p make buildworld make buildkernel [KERNCONF=3D"XYZ"] make installkernel [KERNCONF=3D"XYZ"] make installworld mergemaster reboot which usally works very good.. But there are no guarantee that this wont crash the system to a non-working state where the only solution is a complete re-install. > In obsd I'm used to run a "clean" cvs, building and installing from a > running system. I can't expect customers to go through that=20 > procedure so > I was hoping that any you guys could help me with a solution for the > customers? As far as I know there are no other options.. you might want to take a look at the port "security/freebsd-update" I've not used it myself tho. You can find information about it here . Best Regards, Patrik From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 13 10:21:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13FA216A4CE for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 10:21:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailbox.wingercom.dk (mailbox.easyspeedy.dk [81.19.240.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6947E43D53 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 10:21:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from per@xterm.dk) Received: from mailbox.wingercom.dk (localhost.wingercom.dk [127.0.0.1]) by mailbox.wingercom.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id 9B36F9326F for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 12:25:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 62.242.151.142 (SquirrelMail authenticated user per) by mailbox.wingercom.dk with HTTP; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 12:25:54 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <63359.62.242.151.142.1095071154.squirrel@mailbox.wingercom.dk> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 12:25:54 +0200 (CEST) From: "Per Engelbrecht" To: In-Reply-To: <375DD163B075E34EA3C10A6286E34A5464B8CE@exhsto1.se.dataphone.com> References: <375DD163B075E34EA3C10A6286E34A5464B8CE@exhsto1.se.dataphone.com> X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.5) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: RE: src update without console access X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 10:21:44 -0000 Hi Patrik Maybe I didn't make myself clear, if so, sorry. It's not the update/install procedure itself that's causing the problem at all. When running 'installworld', 'mergemaster -p' and 'mergemaster' the server needs to be in single-user mode. That is not possible for out customers! They often sit on the other side of the world on a ssh connection and in single-user mode you don't have ssh.That's the problem! I use BSD only (Open, Free and a single Net) for our infracture/setup (bgp, dns, ntp, mail et al.) in our datacenter. No problem - I have consol access all the time for the things I can't do via ssh. At first we only offered Tux-boxes. Now we offer fbsd boxes as well. Now these customers need to update their servers from any location. respectfully /per per@xterm.dk >> The problem is that customers don't have console access while in >> single-user mode ! (can't run installworld, mergemaster) >> I've tested an upgrade from a running system (killing >> sendmail first, no >> attached users) with poor result .. 'mergemaster -p' and >> 'mergemaster' >> only found a diff in /etc/motd and 'uname -a' didn't show any >> system changes after a reboot. > > I've ran FreeBSD for quite some time and usaly you dont need acual > console access to the server to update it. The only problem I've > ran into so far is updating from FreeBSD 5.0 to 5.2.1 .. for some > reason the tcsh update didnt work and crunched the whole > installation... anyways... Normally I simply run > mergemaster -p > make buildworld > make buildkernel [KERNCONF="XYZ"] > make installkernel [KERNCONF="XYZ"] > make installworld > mergemaster > reboot > > which usally works very good.. > But there are no guarantee that this wont crash the system to a > non-working state where the only solution is a complete re-install. > >> In obsd I'm used to run a "clean" cvs, building and installing >> from a running system. I can't expect customers to go through that >> >> procedure so >> I was hoping that any you guys could help me with a solution for >> the customers? > > As far as I know there are no other options.. you might want to > take a look at the port "security/freebsd-update" I've not used it > myself tho. You can find information about it here > . > > Best Regards, > Patrik > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 13 10:27:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA57516A4CF for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 10:27:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from complx.LF.net (complx.LF.net [212.9.190.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DE5E43D49 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 10:27:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@complx.LF.net) Received: from lists by complx.LF.net with local (Exim 4.24) id 1C6o3l-0002cL-Cx for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 12:27:45 +0200 Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 12:27:45 +0200 From: Kurt Jaeger To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040913102745.GN8293@complx.LF.net> References: <375DD163B075E34EA3C10A6286E34A5464B8CE@exhsto1.se.dataphone.com> <63359.62.242.151.142.1095071154.squirrel@mailbox.wingercom.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <63359.62.242.151.142.1095071154.squirrel@mailbox.wingercom.dk> Subject: Re: src update without console access X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 10:27:47 -0000 Hi! > When running 'installworld', 'mergemaster -p' and 'mergemaster' the > server needs to be in single-user mode. Not necessarily. Depending on the secure level, multi-user works as well. Although, if one cvsups from 4.10 to 5.x, I still need to find a way without the single-user step. -- MfG/Best regards, Kurt Jaeger 16 years to go ! LF.net GmbH fon +49 711 90074-23 pi@LF.net Ruppmannstr. 27 fax +49 711 90074-33 D-70565 Stuttgart mob +49 171 3101372 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 13 10:46:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F0C216A4CE for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 10:46:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sloth.good-day.net (sloth.good-day.net [220.218.54.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD46C43D54 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 10:46:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sylpheed-admin@good-day.net) Received: from sloth.good-day.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sloth.good-day.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0D7D3A62C6 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 19:46:02 +0900 (JST) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 19:46:02 +0900 From: sylpheed-admin@good-day.net To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-Id: <200409131946.FMLAAB22491.sylpheed@good-day.net> References: <20040913104522.B0FBB3A62D9@sloth.good-day.net> X-MLServer: fml [fml 4.0.3 release (20011202/4.0.3)] X-ML-Info: If you have a question, please contact sylpheed-admin@good-day.net; Subject: You freebsd-isp@freebsd.org are not member (sylpheed ML) X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 10:46:07 -0000 You are not a member of this mailing list . 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From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 13 11:02:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2D2C16A4CE for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 11:02:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailbox.wingercom.dk (mailbox.wingercom.dk [81.19.240.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BF0843D1D for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 11:02:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from per@xterm.dk) Received: from mailbox.wingercom.dk (localhost.wingercom.dk [127.0.0.1]) by mailbox.wingercom.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id 2143F931B3 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 13:06:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 62.242.151.142 (SquirrelMail authenticated user per) by mailbox.wingercom.dk with HTTP; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 13:06:21 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <58357.62.242.151.142.1095073581.squirrel@mailbox.wingercom.dk> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 13:06:21 +0200 (CEST) From: "Per Engelbrecht" To: In-Reply-To: <20040913102745.GN8293@complx.LF.net> References: <20040913102745.GN8293@complx.LF.net> X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.5) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: src update without console access X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 11:02:08 -0000 Hi Kurt >> When running 'installworld', 'mergemaster -p' and 'mergemaster' >> the server needs to be in single-user mode. > > Not necessarily. Depending on the secure level, multi-user works > as well. That sound reasonable enough, but also seems a little odd taking my test-upgrade on a live customer-server in consideration [kern.securelevel: -1] I'll try again. Something must have gone wrong. > > Although, if one cvsups from 4.10 to 5.x, I still need to find > a way without the single-user step. I would never advice customers to cvsup between branches. When 5.3 is released, it will be a "new" installation that we offer. Thank you for the advice Kurt. respectfully /per per@xterm.dk > > -- > MfG/Best regards, Kurt Jaeger 16 > years to go ! LF.net GmbH fon +49 711 90074-23 pi@LF.net > Ruppmannstr. 27 fax +49 711 90074-33 > D-70565 Stuttgart mob +49 171 3101372 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 13 11:25:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 627DC16A4CE for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 11:25:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from exhsto1.se.dataphone.com (exhsto1.se.dataphone.com [212.37.6.239]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3911843D31 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 11:25:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from patrik.forsberg@dataphone.net) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.6944.0 Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 13:25:17 +0200 Message-ID: <375DD163B075E34EA3C10A6286E34A5464B8D7@exhsto1.se.dataphone.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: src update without console access Thread-Index: AcSZgeRo3Y8yYDPkRymOa+oLiVcLIwAAdrNA From: "Patrik Forsberg" To: Subject: RE: src update without console access X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 11:25:20 -0000 > >> When running 'installworld', 'mergemaster -p' and 'mergemaster' > >> the server needs to be in single-user mode. > > > > Not necessarily. Depending on the secure level, multi-user works > > as well. This is what I ment.. I'm usaly connected throw a ssh connection. > That sound reasonable enough, but also seems a little odd taking my > test-upgrade on a live customer-server in consideration > [kern.securelevel: -1] > I'll try again. Something must have gone wrong. Yes.. something.. did you check the output of your installworld so nothing went wrong on the way ? > > > > Although, if one cvsups from 4.10 to 5.x, I still need to find > > a way without the single-user step. >=20 > I would never advice customers to cvsup between branches. When 5.3 is > released, it will be a "new" installation that we offer. Well.. not to say to much but I've done a cvsup upgrade from 5.2.1-RELEASE-p9 to 5.3-BETA2 connected throw a ssh and that went, almost, without any trouble.. but I guess you really need to know what to expect if you do this and also have ether a test server and/or a level-0 backup.. //patrik From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 13 11:45:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7557916A4D2 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 11:45:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailbox.wingercom.dk (mailbox.wingercom.dk [81.19.240.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81C6543D49 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 11:45:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from per@xterm.dk) Received: from mailbox.wingercom.dk (localhost.wingercom.dk [127.0.0.1]) by mailbox.wingercom.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id 678F8931B4 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 13:49:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 62.242.151.142 (SquirrelMail authenticated user per) by mailbox.wingercom.dk with HTTP; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 13:49:29 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <57108.62.242.151.142.1095076169.squirrel@mailbox.wingercom.dk> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 13:49:29 +0200 (CEST) From: "Per Engelbrecht" To: In-Reply-To: <375DD163B075E34EA3C10A6286E34A5464B8D7@exhsto1.se.dataphone.com> References: <375DD163B075E34EA3C10A6286E34A5464B8D7@exhsto1.se.dataphone.com> X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.5) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: RE: src update without console access X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 11:45:20 -0000 Hi Patrik > This is what I ment.. I'm usaly connected throw a ssh connection. > >> That sound reasonable enough, but also seems a little odd taking >> my test-upgrade on a live customer-server in consideration >> [kern.securelevel: -1] >> I'll try again. Something must have gone wrong. > > Yes.. something.. did you check the output of your installworld so > nothing went wrong on the way ? I didn't recive any failure-notice of any kind at any point, hence my post on the list. >> > Although, if one cvsups from 4.10 to 5.x, I still need to find a >> > way without the single-user step. >> >> I would never advice customers to cvsup between branches. When >> 5.3 is released, it will be a "new" installation that we offer. > > Well.. not to say to much but I've done a cvsup upgrade from > 5.2.1-RELEASE-p9 to 5.3-BETA2 connected throw a ssh and that went, > almost, without any trouble.. but I guess you really need to know > what to expect if you do this and also have ether a test server > and/or a level-0 backup.. Well, customers need an easy and bulletproof solution - it's in my own interest, belive me! respectfully /per per@xterm.dk > > //patrik > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 13 12:46:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BC1E16A4CF for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 12:46:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.netcologne.de (smtp1.netcologne.de [194.8.194.112]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2500143D41 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 12:46:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from info@emre.de) Received: from localhost (netmail1.netcologne.de [194.8.194.21]) by smtp1.netcologne.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3514438BD9 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 14:46:08 +0200 (MEST) Received: from sys-125.netcologne.de (sys-125.netcologne.de [194.8.193.125]) by netmail1.netcologne.de (IMP) with HTTP; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 14:46:04 +0200 Message-ID: <1095079564.4145968cab868@netmail1.netcologne.de> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 14:46:04 +0200 From: Emre Bastuz To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: NetCologne NetMail (IMP) 4.0-cvs Subject: HP Openview anyone? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 12:46:12 -0000 Hi, IŽd like to add some FreeBSD machines to an HP Openview managment system. AFAIK there are Windows and Linux node agents available but I could not find any for FreeBSD. What are you guys doing when it comes to adding FBSD boxes to the managment system? Cheers, Emre -- http://www.emre.de UIN: 561260 PGP Key ID: 0xAFAC77FD I don't see why some people even HAVE cars. -- Calvin From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 13 14:35:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C124616A4CE for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 14:35:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wjv.com (fl-65-40-24-38.sta.sprint-hsd.net [65.40.24.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E289143D31 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 14:35:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bv@bilver.wjv.com) Received: from bilver.wjv.com (localhost.wjv.com [127.0.0.1]) by wjv.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8DEZu2O045670; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 10:35:56 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bv@bilver.wjv.com) Received: (from bv@localhost) by bilver.wjv.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8DEZt2V045669; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 10:35:55 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bv) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 10:35:50 -0400 From: Bill Vermillion To: Per Engelbrecht Message-ID: <20040913143550.GC45085@wjv.com> References: <375DD163B075E34EA3C10A6286E34A5464B8CE@exhsto1.se.dataphone.com> <63359.62.242.151.142.1095071154.squirrel@mailbox.wingercom.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <63359.62.242.151.142.1095071154.squirrel@mailbox.wingercom.dk> Organization: W.J.Vermillion / Orlando - Winter Park ReplyTo: bv@wjv.com User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: src update without console access X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: bv@wjv.com List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 14:35:58 -0000 On Mon, Sep 13, 2004 at 12:25 , while denying his reply is spam, Per Engelbrecht prattled on endlessly saying: > Hi Patrik > Maybe I didn't make myself clear, if so, sorry. It's not the > update/install procedure itself that's causing the problem at > all. > When running 'installworld', 'mergemaster -p' and 'mergemaster' the > server needs to be in single-user mode. Recommended but not needed. I only manage a handful of servers and I've not had to go to the colo for any work. I do make sure someone is there >IF< things go wrong. The only time there was a problem was one older mobo that always had the control keyboard connected and someone decided to stick that on aother machine. > That is not possible for out customers! They often sit on the > other side of the world on a ssh connection and in single-user > mode you don't have ssh.That's the problem! I run the buildworld and buildkernel under nohup so I have a complete lot. I start them up, and then log out, and check later for any errors. I then install the kernel and hope it comes up. That part has never failed for me. > I use BSD only (Open, Free and a single Net) for our infracture/setup > (bgp, dns, ntp, mail et al.) in our datacenter. No problem - I have > consol access all the time for the things I can't do via ssh. > At first we only offered Tux-boxes. Now we offer fbsd boxes as > well. Now these customers need to update their servers from any > location. The problem is that you have no control over what your customers do and they could easily modify things and wind up with a non-booting kernel. Perhaps it would be good to set a policy so that customers notify you when they are going to reinstall and have them do that only when data center operators are there to copy the old kernel back to a running one so the customer can sort things out. When I do the remote updated [almost always after 1AM] I'm down for about 2 minutes rebooting the new kernel. Then I perform the installworld, then run mergemaster, then a second reboot. So down time is about two periods of 2 minutes separated by a 1/2 hour time frame. I can get to the facility in about 20 minutes after 1AM so maybe that's why I never have a problem. The machines must know that I can get there to fix them so they don't bother breaking :-) Bill -- Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 14 10:14:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D7B916A4CE for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 10:14:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailbox.wingercom.dk (mailbox.easyspeedy.dk [81.19.240.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A59443D77 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 10:14:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from per@xterm.dk) Received: from mailbox.wingercom.dk (localhost.wingercom.dk [127.0.0.1]) by mailbox.wingercom.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id 0E22D9316C for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 12:18:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 62.242.151.142 (SquirrelMail authenticated user per) by mailbox.wingercom.dk with HTTP; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 12:18:39 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <63183.62.242.151.142.1095157119.squirrel@mailbox.wingercom.dk> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 12:18:39 +0200 (CEST) From: "Per Engelbrecht" To: In-Reply-To: <20040913143550.GC45085@wjv.com> References: <20040913143550.GC45085@wjv.com> X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.5) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: src update without console access X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 10:14:28 -0000 Hi Bill >> When running 'installworld', 'mergemaster -p' and 'mergemaster' >> the server needs to be in single-user mode. > > Recommended but not needed. sysctl kern.securelevel value >0 should determin that. That I was told in a previous mail and fbsd documentation back's it up. -1, 0 = ok with multi-user 1, 2= single-user only > I only manage a handful of servers and I've not had to go to the > colo for any work. I do make sure someone is there >IF< things go > wrong. > > The only time there was a problem was one older mobo that always > had the control keyboard connected and someone decided to stick > that on aother machine. > >> That is not possible for out customers! They often sit on the >> other side of the world on a ssh connection and in single-user >> mode you don't have ssh.That's the problem! > > I run the buildworld and buildkernel under nohup so I have a > complete lot. I start them up, and then log out, and check later > for any errors. nohup ? (sounds like a make.conf thing) > I then install the kernel and hope it comes up. That part has > never failed for me. > The problem is that you have no control over what your customers do > and they could easily modify things and wind up with a non-booting > kernel. > > Perhaps it would be good to set a policy so that customers notify > you when they are going to reinstall and have them do that only > when data center operators are there to copy the old kernel back > to a running one so the customer can sort things out. Our admin./install-setup (PXE / Java) is quite impressive. Customers can make cold/warm reboot's, power off/on(!), make reinstalls of same or other OS's, make backups and can get all kind of informations on their system(if they don't disable it from their default install). Customers get a mail on reinstall and reboot events. We have a log (from the PXE part) where we can see reinstalls and OS version on each node. All in all our customers are give a lot of options/features that make their lifes easier and documentation on top of that. My major concern was the src upgrade part. It's "fix'ed" now. > When I do the remote updated [almost always after 1AM] I'm down for > about 2 minutes rebooting the new kernel. Then I perform > the installworld, then run mergemaster, then a second reboot. > > So down time is about two periods of 2 minutes separated by > a 1/2 hour time frame. I can get to the facility in about > 20 minutes after 1AM so maybe that's why I never have a problem. > The machines must know that I can get there to fix them so they > don't bother breaking :-) :) Thank you for your input Bill and thank you to all you guys that replied on this thread. respectfully /per per@xterm.dk > > Bill > > > -- > Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 14 14:10:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66E4316A4CF for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 14:10:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ithil.ics.muni.cz (ns.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24A6343D2F for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 14:10:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hopet@ics.muni.cz) Received: from KLOBOUCEK (kloboucek.ics.muni.cz [147.251.3.38]) (user=hopet@META mech=LOGIN bits=0) by ithil.ics.muni.cz (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id i8EEA6Ab027263 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 16:10:06 +0200 From: "Petr Holub" To: Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 16:09:51 +0200 Message-ID: <095b01c49a64$8036d220$2603fb93@KLOBOUCEK> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Muni-Spam-TestIP: 147.251.3.38 X-Muni-Virus-Test: Clean Subject: problem with Apache 1.3.31 + mod_frontpage X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 14:10:09 -0000 Hi, I tried to install Apache with mod_frontpage and after initial configuration I get following problem: [Tue Sep 14 16:03:26 2004] [error] [client 147.251.3.44] web root writable by gr oup or others: /home/www/cheminfo/_vti_bin/shtml.exe [Tue Sep 14 16:03:26 2004] [error] [client 147.251.3.44] Invalid method in reque st method=server+version%3a5%2e0%2e2%2e2623 [Tue Sep 14 16:03:26 2004] [error] [client 147.251.3.44] web root writable by gr oup or others: /home/www/cheminfo/_vti_bin/shtml.exe [Tue Sep 14 16:03:26 2004] [error] [client 147.251.3.44] Invalid method in reque st method=server+version%3a5%2e0%2e2%2e2623 The installation was done in following steps: 1) install www/apache13-modssl 2) install www/frontpage 3) install mod_frontpage 4) /usr/local/frontpage/version5.0/fp_install.sh 5) editing httpd.conf to enable FP on SSL web server and disable it on non-SSL one. Is there something I missed? Thanks, Petr ================================================================ Petr Holub CESNET z.s.p.o. Supercomputing Center Brno Zikova 4 Institute of Compt. Science 162 00 Praha 6, CZ Masaryk University Czech Republic Botanicka 68a, 60200 Brno, CZ e-mail: Petr.Holub@cesnet.cz phone: +420-549493944 fax: +420-541212747 e-mail: hopet@ics.muni.cz From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 14 16:19:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9166716A4CE for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 16:19:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from whitehall.lin-tech.net (whitehall.lin-tech.net [66.118.35.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E0F943D48 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 16:19:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@buckhorn.net) Received: from [209.169.67.4] (lfkn-adsl-209-169-67-4.txucom.net [209.169.67.4]) by whitehall.lin-tech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D9A4FDB9; Tue, 14 Sep 2004 11:19:39 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <414719FB.7080104@buckhorn.net> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 11:19:07 -0500 From: Bob Martin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040614 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Petr Holub References: <095b01c49a64$8036d220$2603fb93@KLOBOUCEK> In-Reply-To: <095b01c49a64$8036d220$2603fb93@KLOBOUCEK> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd and fprot cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problem with Apache 1.3.31 + mod_frontpage X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 16:19:38 -0000 This isn't the exact set of errors we had, but I'm guessing the problem is the same. Your running Apache as the user www, and more specifically, as a user with a UID < 1000. Evidently, it's been hardcoded into the FP binaries that the UID must be greater than 1000. Set the apache/frontpage user so that the UID > 1000 and everything should work (don't forget to reset the permissions on the related directorys) Bob Martin Petr Holub wrote: > Hi, > > I tried to install Apache with mod_frontpage and after initial configuration > I get following problem: > > [Tue Sep 14 16:03:26 2004] [error] [client 147.251.3.44] web root writable by gr > oup or others: /home/www/cheminfo/_vti_bin/shtml.exe > [Tue Sep 14 16:03:26 2004] [error] [client 147.251.3.44] Invalid method in reque > st method=server+version%3a5%2e0%2e2%2e2623 > [Tue Sep 14 16:03:26 2004] [error] [client 147.251.3.44] web root writable by gr > oup or others: /home/www/cheminfo/_vti_bin/shtml.exe > [Tue Sep 14 16:03:26 2004] [error] [client 147.251.3.44] Invalid method in reque > st method=server+version%3a5%2e0%2e2%2e2623 > > The installation was done in following steps: > 1) install www/apache13-modssl > 2) install www/frontpage > 3) install mod_frontpage > 4) /usr/local/frontpage/version5.0/fp_install.sh > 5) editing httpd.conf to enable FP on SSL web server and disable > it on non-SSL one. > > Is there something I missed? > > Thanks, > Petr > > ================================================================ > Petr Holub > CESNET z.s.p.o. Supercomputing Center Brno > Zikova 4 Institute of Compt. Science > 162 00 Praha 6, CZ Masaryk University > Czech Republic Botanicka 68a, 60200 Brno, CZ > e-mail: Petr.Holub@cesnet.cz phone: +420-549493944 > fax: +420-541212747 > e-mail: hopet@ics.muni.cz > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 08:33:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 518CE16A4CE for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 08:33:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from exponential-e.com (snails.exponential-e.net [62.244.177.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 989EC43D2F for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 08:33:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jim.mozley@exponential-e.com) Received: from [62.244.191.249] (account jim.mozley HELO [192.168.22.101]) by exponential-e.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.5) with ESMTP id 3639417; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 09:33:14 +0100 Message-ID: <4147FE68.3040802@exponential-e.com> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 09:33:44 +0100 From: Jim Mozley Organization: Exponential-e User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7 (Windows/20040616) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Emre Bastuz References: <1095079564.4145968cab868@netmail1.netcologne.de> In-Reply-To: <1095079564.4145968cab868@netmail1.netcologne.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HP Openview anyone? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 08:33:16 -0000 Emre Bastuz wrote: > Hi, > > IŽd like to add some FreeBSD machines to an HP Openview managment system. > > AFAIK there are Windows and Linux node agents available but I could not find any > for FreeBSD. > > What are you guys doing when it comes to adding FBSD boxes to the managment > system? My knowledge is a little out of date but for what it's worth it probably depends on what HP-OV product you are talking about... It its network node manager then you would want your FreeBSD box to run an snmp agent and import the MIB into NNM. Then set-up polling and data collection for appropriate MIB values. OTOH if it is what used to be called ITO, that has remote agents, then AFAIK there are no FreeBSD agents. As ITO includes NNM you could adopt the approach of using SNMP. An alternative would be to perform tests using an ITO agent as a proxy, for instance checking for free disk space using SSH. HTH, Jim Mozley From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 09:59:17 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24F2D16A4CE for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 09:59:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ithil.ics.muni.cz (ns.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EF1543D3F for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 09:59:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hopet@ics.muni.cz) Received: from KLOBOUCEK (kloboucek.ics.muni.cz [147.251.3.38]) (user=hopet@META mech=LOGIN bits=0) by ithil.ics.muni.cz (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id i8F9xCAb006857 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 15 Sep 2004 11:59:12 +0200 From: "Petr Holub" To: "Bob Martin" Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 11:58:57 +0200 Message-ID: <0ab801c49b0a$9db50140$2603fb93@KLOBOUCEK> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: <414719FB.7080104@buckhorn.net> X-Muni-Spam-TestIP: 147.251.3.38 X-Muni-Virus-Test: Clean cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: RE: problem with Apache 1.3.31 + mod_frontpage X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 09:59:17 -0000 > This isn't the exact set of errors we had, but I'm guessing the problem > is the same. Your running Apache as the user www, and more specifically, > as a user with a UID < 1000. Evidently, it's been hardcoded into the FP > binaries that the UID must be greater than 1000. > > Set the apache/frontpage user so that the UID > 1000 and everything > should work (don't forget to reset the permissions on the related > directorys) I'm afraid it's not as it runs as nobody with UID 65534. -su-2.05b# ps -l 991 UID PID PPID CPU PRI NI VSZ RSS MWCHAN STAT TT TIME COMMAND 65534 991 988 0 20 0 5532 3480 lockf S ?? 0:00.02 /usr/local/s Petr ================================================================ Petr Holub CESNET z.s.p.o. Supercomputing Center Brno Zikova 4 Institute of Compt. Science 162 00 Praha 6, CZ Masaryk University Czech Republic Botanicka 68a, 60200 Brno, CZ e-mail: Petr.Holub@cesnet.cz phone: +420-549493944 fax: +420-541212747 e-mail: hopet@ics.muni.cz From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 11:31:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1659016A4CE for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 11:31:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ithil.ics.muni.cz (ithil.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70F7243D45 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 11:31:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hopet@ics.muni.cz) Received: from KLOBOUCEK (kloboucek.ics.muni.cz [147.251.3.38]) (user=hopet@META mech=LOGIN bits=0) by ithil.ics.muni.cz (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id i8FBVKAb007902 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 13:31:20 +0200 From: "Petr Holub" To: Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 13:31:04 +0200 Message-ID: <0aec01c49b17$7c3bbf60$2603fb93@KLOBOUCEK> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: <414719FB.7080104@buckhorn.net> X-Muni-Spam-TestIP: 147.251.3.38 X-Muni-Virus-Test: Clean Subject: RE: problem with Apache 1.3.31 + mod_frontpage X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 11:31:22 -0000 Hi all, after spending some more time and digging into it I've found guide to make FP2002 work: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=FP+will+this+work&hl=en&safe=off&rnum=5&selm=n 9_97.2819%24ym4.105685%40iad-read.news.verio.net Aaaaggghhhhrrrrr. Petr ================================================================ Petr Holub CESNET z.s.p.o. Supercomputing Center Brno Zikova 4 Institute of Compt. Science 162 00 Praha 6, CZ Masaryk University Czech Republic Botanicka 68a, 60200 Brno, CZ e-mail: Petr.Holub@cesnet.cz phone: +420-549493944 fax: +420-541212747 e-mail: hopet@ics.muni.cz From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 00:21:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09B8516A4CE for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 00:21:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAD0743D1F for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 00:21:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marcus.vinicius.ferreira@gmail.com) Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 77so291233rnk for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 17:21:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.74.77 with SMTP id w77mr1067019rna; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 17:21:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.78.36 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 17:21:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 21:21:38 -0300 From: Marcus Vinicius Ferreira To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Marcus Vinicius Ferreira List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 00:21:39 -0000 -- Marcus Vinicius Ferreira From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 00:50:05 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1A1E16A4CE for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 00:50:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cronus.angelo.edu (cronus.angelo.edu [204.66.1.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2649343D39 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 00:50:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mimedefang@angelo.edu) Received: from cronus.angelo.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cronus.angelo.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id i8G0o1Js026255 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 19:50:04 -0500 Received: (from defang@localhost) by cronus.angelo.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-6.6) id i8G0igZn025241 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 19:44:42 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: cronus.angelo.edu: defang set sender to mimedefang@angelo.edu using -f From: MIMEDefang To: Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 19:44:42 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <200409151944.i8G0icJ4025211@cronus.angelo.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: () 0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.38 Subject: MIMEDefang Notification X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 00:50:05 -0000 An e-mail you sent with message-id NOQUEUE was modified by our mail scanning software. 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From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 13:06:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3564F16A4CE for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 13:06:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D71EC43D31 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 13:06:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from meshbah@gmail.com) Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 74so225971rnk for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 06:06:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.9.8 with SMTP id 8mr104998rni; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 06:05:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.76.25 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 06:04:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 19:04:28 +0600 From: Meshbah Uddin Ahmed To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Prb about Starting on MailScanner X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Meshbah Uddin Ahmed List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 13:06:36 -0000 Dear Experts, I am new member. I use FreeBSD + Postfix + MailScanner + ClamAV. All r successfully installed and configured. But the prb is, when i start MailScanner, it was also succesfully starting, but from maillog shows, MailScanner Starting .. MailScanner Using : locktype = flock Note. no error of postfix starting and also not in maillog. i have to configure 2 postfix. one is postfix and other is postfix.in in this case i can sending mail to anywhere. but the mails is not scanned. pls help me. Regards Meshbah From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 15:07:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C99B16A4CE for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:07:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from home.irrelevant.org (dsl-217-155-238-245.zen.co.uk [217.155.238.245]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01C1943D3F for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:07:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from simond@irrelevant.org) Received: from telivo.cust.hastwood.com ([62.244.179.195] helo=[192.168.195.58]) by home.irrelevant.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.42 (FreeBSD)) id 1C8KKg-0005NQ-Eh for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 16:07:38 +0100 From: Simon Dick To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1095433576.97877.117.camel@laptop.irrelevant.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 16:06:17 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -4.6 (----) X-Spam-Report: Content analysis details: (-4.6 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description --------------------------------------------------1% [score: 0.0000] 0.3 AWL AWL: Auto-whitelist adjustment Subject: Bandwidth accounting X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:07:41 -0000 Has anyone got any recommendations what tool I could use to measure a customers total bandwidth usage per month via SNMP on a cisco/netgear switch? I currently use my own script but I don't quite trust it to be accurate enough for real use, thanks in advance! -- Simon From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 15:18:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F00716A4CE for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:18:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ews38.everyware.ch (ews38.espace.everyware.ch [212.71.111.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B39C943D31 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:18:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dna@everyware.ch) Received: from linux-dna.everyware.ch (linux-dna.everyware.ch [212.71.117.27]) by ews38.everyware.ch (Postfix) with SMTP id 1BAC81C68B for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 17:18:38 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 17:18:37 +0200 From: Dimitri Aivaliotis To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20040917171837.1bc2a3a7@linux-dna.everyware.ch> In-Reply-To: <1095433576.97877.117.camel@laptop.irrelevant.org> References: <1095433576.97877.117.camel@laptop.irrelevant.org> Organization: EveryWare AG X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.10claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) X-Face: 'Pz)c2@Qiu.8=a*>M\B0X)y%#}|a P}TLNYp$B/bI3t")\C\?,$EI.Wgi,BRAd]ksqaF&gdKma/; 3v|nF91@Md6kOdEG'%dIoofV"R\lJKJ JS5 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:18:40 -0000 On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 16:06:17 +0100 Simon Dick wrote: > Has anyone got any recommendations what tool I could use to measure a > customers total bandwidth usage per month via SNMP on a cisco/netgear > switch? I currently use my own script but I don't quite trust it to be > accurate enough for real use, thanks in advance! > I'm trying out RTG (http://rtg.sourceforge.net) right now, and have had some good experiences with it. It's got an SQL (my or Postgre) backend, so you can do more complex queries than you could with an RRD-based solution because it doesn't average out the data already stored. I've also heard some good things about RRFW (http://rrfw.sourceforge.net/), which does use an RRD-based backend, if that's where you'd like to head. - Dimitri -- Dimitri Aivaliotis EveryWare AG Birmensdorferstrasse 125 8003 Zurich tel: +41 (1) 466 60 00 fax: +41 (1) 466 60 10 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 15:30:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3598716A4CE for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:30:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from home.irrelevant.org (dsl-217-155-238-245.zen.co.uk [217.155.238.245]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C91D843D1D for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:30:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from simond@irrelevant.org) Received: from telivo.cust.hastwood.com ([62.244.179.195] helo=[192.168.195.58]) by home.irrelevant.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.42 (FreeBSD)) id 1C8KgX-0005S3-36; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 16:30:13 +0100 From: Simon Dick To: Dimitri Aivaliotis In-Reply-To: <20040917171837.1bc2a3a7@linux-dna.everyware.ch> References: <1095433576.97877.117.camel@laptop.irrelevant.org> <20040917171837.1bc2a3a7@linux-dna.everyware.ch> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1095434930.97877.122.camel@laptop.irrelevant.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 16:28:51 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -4.6 (----) X-Spam-Report: Content analysis details: (-4.6 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description --------------------------------------------------1% [score: 0.0000] 0.3 AWL AWL: Auto-whitelist adjustment cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bandwidth accounting X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:30:15 -0000 On Fri, 2004-09-17 at 16:18, Dimitri Aivaliotis wrote: > On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 16:06:17 +0100 > Simon Dick wrote: > > > Has anyone got any recommendations what tool I could use to measure a > > customers total bandwidth usage per month via SNMP on a cisco/netgear > > switch? I currently use my own script but I don't quite trust it to be > > accurate enough for real use, thanks in advance! > > > > I'm trying out RTG (http://rtg.sourceforge.net) right now, and have had some good experiences with it. It's got an SQL (my or Postgre) backend, so you can do more complex queries than you could with an RRD-based solution because it doesn't average out the data already stored. That looks promising > I've also heard some good things about RRFW (http://rrfw.sourceforge.net/), which does use an RRD-based backend, if that's where you'd like to head. Looks ok, but not quite what I want at the moment :) Thanks for the suggestion From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 18 02:54:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A12316A4CE for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 02:54:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.emediaone.net (orion.emediaone.net [203.208.226.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 021D643D39 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 02:54:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jett@angdatingdaan.org) Received: from mail.angdatingdaan.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.emediaone.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 381CE4504C for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 10:54:15 +0800 (SGT) Received: from 61.9.2.98 (SquirrelMail authenticated user jett@angdatingdaan.org) by mail.angdatingdaan.org with HTTP; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 10:54:15 +0800 (SGT) Message-ID: <60018.61.9.2.98.1095476055.squirrel@mail.angdatingdaan.org> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 10:54:15 +0800 (SGT) From: "Jett Tayer" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Subject: Re: Prb about Starting on MailScanner X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 02:54:11 -0000 verify your mail headers if its passing MailScanner. /jett > Dear Experts, > > I am new member. I use FreeBSD + Postfix + MailScanner + ClamAV. All r > successfully installed and configured. But the prb is, when i start > MailScanner, it was also succesfully starting, but from maillog shows, > > MailScanner Starting .. > MailScanner Using : locktype = flock > From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 18 10:40:17 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB14A16A4CE for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 10:40:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 967FC43D55 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 10:40:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from meshbah@gmail.com) Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 74so328410rnk for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 03:40:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.162.40 with SMTP id k40mr144633rne; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 03:40:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.76.25 with HTTP; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 03:40:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 16:40:10 +0600 From: Meshbah Uddin Ahmed To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <60018.61.9.2.98.1095476055.squirrel@mail.angdatingdaan.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <60018.61.9.2.98.1095476055.squirrel@mail.angdatingdaan.org> Subject: Re: Prb about Starting on MailScanner X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Meshbah Uddin Ahmed List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 10:40:18 -0000 how can i do that, can u pls help me. regards meshbah On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 10:54:15 +0800 (SGT), Jett Tayer wrote: > verify your mail headers if its passing MailScanner. > > /jett > > > Dear Experts, > > > > I am new member. I use FreeBSD + Postfix + MailScanner + ClamAV. All r > > successfully installed and configured. But the prb is, when i start > > MailScanner, it was also succesfully starting, but from maillog shows, > > > > MailScanner Starting .. > > MailScanner Using : locktype = flock > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >