From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 3 01:16:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E717016A4CE for ; Sun, 3 Oct 2004 01:16:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD9C743D3F for ; Sun, 3 Oct 2004 01:16:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.144]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A894448FE82 for ; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 22:16:47 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27147-06 for ; Sun, 3 Oct 2004 01:16:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-222-46-91.eastlink.ca [24.222.46.91]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 319BF48FE8A for ; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 22:16:47 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 43B1334325; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 22:16:52 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C860342D8 for ; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 22:16:52 -0300 (ADT) Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 22:16:52 -0300 (ADT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041002221538.M64687@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hub.org Subject: Need 'remote power bar' recommendations ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 01:16:54 -0000 I'm looking at something like: http://www.wti.com/nbb16.htm to put where my servers are co-located, so taht I can power cycle as required ... does anyone here have experiences with either WTI, or other similar products that they'd like to share? Thanks ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 3 02:48:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27A8316A4CE for ; Sun, 3 Oct 2004 02:48:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from exchange.sandvine.com (sandvine.com [199.243.201.138]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8A1443D39 for ; Sun, 3 Oct 2004 02:48:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from don@sandvine.com) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6556.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 22:48:56 -0400 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Need 'remote power bar' recommendations ... Thread-Index: AcSo8Y8iyRd0aMUiTZinCi1nKHKSxAAAccAg From: "Don Bowman" To: "Marc G. Fournier" , Subject: RE: Need 'remote power bar' recommendations ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 02:48:58 -0000 Marc G. Fournier wrote: > I'm looking at something like: >=20 > http://www.wti.com/nbb16.htm >=20 > to put where my servers are co-located, so taht I can power cycle as=20 > required ... does anyone here have experiences with either=20 > WTI, or other=20 > similar products that they'd like to share? >=20 > Thanks ... We use the RPC line from Baytech (http://www.baytech.net/). These can usually be obtained used on e.g. ebay for pretty cheaply. They work very well, we have about 75 of them. --don From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 3 18:43:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5356F16A4CE for ; Sun, 3 Oct 2004 18:43:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-222-46-91.eastlink.ca [24.222.46.91]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E634E43D58 for ; Sun, 3 Oct 2004 18:43:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 986DC34325; Sun, 3 Oct 2004 15:43:53 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9758433D2C; Sun, 3 Oct 2004 15:43:53 -0300 (ADT) Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 15:43:53 -0300 (ADT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: Don Bowman In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20041003154333.B96717@ganymede.hub.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Need 'remote power bar' recommendations ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 18:43:54 -0000 Any particular model, or they are all good? Found this one, which appears to do what I want ... http://www.kvms.com/nav/item.asp?item=4228 On Sat, 2 Oct 2004, Don Bowman wrote: > Marc G. Fournier wrote: >> I'm looking at something like: >> >> http://www.wti.com/nbb16.htm >> >> to put where my servers are co-located, so taht I can power cycle as >> required ... does anyone here have experiences with either >> WTI, or other >> similar products that they'd like to share? >> >> Thanks ... > > We use the RPC line from Baytech (http://www.baytech.net/). > These can usually be obtained used on e.g. ebay for pretty > cheaply. They work very well, we have about 75 of them. > > --don > ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 3 18:47:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8316516A4CE for ; Sun, 3 Oct 2004 18:47:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from exchange.sandvine.com (sandvine.com [199.243.201.138]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2407443D49 for ; Sun, 3 Oct 2004 18:47:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from don@sandvine.com) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6556.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 14:47:11 -0400 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Need 'remote power bar' recommendations ... Thread-Index: AcSpeQD54k6V1eFLQPqwNMnFeJwJEQAAFoGA From: "Don Bowman" To: "Marc G. Fournier" cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Need 'remote power bar' recommendations ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 18:47:12 -0000 From: Marc G. Fournier [mailto:scrappy@hub.org] >=20 > Any particular model, or they are all good? Found this one,=20 > which appears > to do what I want ... >=20 > http://www.kvms.com/nav/item.asp?item=3D4228 >=20 That's the model we mostly use, the RPC-3. I also use the 20 amp version, and the zero-U ones. We usually pay about $175 on ebay or other used outlet, or about 500 for = new. --don From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 4 14:24:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59EC716A4CE for ; Mon, 4 Oct 2004 14:24:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omoikane.mb.skyweb.ca (64-42-246-34.mb.skyweb.ca [64.42.246.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB3AF43D4C for ; Mon, 4 Oct 2004 14:24:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mark@skyweb.ca) Received: by omoikane.mb.skyweb.ca (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C083D61D53; Mon, 4 Oct 2004 09:24:45 -0500 (CDT) From: Mark Johnston To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 09:24:43 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.1 References: <20041002221538.M64687@ganymede.hub.org> In-Reply-To: <20041002221538.M64687@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200410040924.44740.mjohnston@skyweb.ca> Subject: Re: Need 'remote power bar' recommendations ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 14:24:44 -0000 "Marc G. Fournier" wrote: > I'm looking at something like: > > http://www.wti.com/nbb16.htm > > to put where my servers are co-located, so taht I can power cycle as > required ... does anyone here have experiences with either WTI, or other > similar products that they'd like to share? We have 3 of WTI's NPS-115 8-port power switches in 3 remote locations, and we've been very happy with them. I've never tried the Web interface that the one you list above seems to have, but we use the Telnet interface on our WTIs to great success, using a small Python script to auto-reboot a couple of pieces of flaky equipment. I have no complaints about the WTI units, but you do have to bear in mind that they'll allow only one Telnet connection at a time - if you drop the connection unexpectedly, you won't be able to get back in until it times out. I've only had one instance of trouble: one of the units, sitting on a broadcast-laden network, started dumping garbage packets onto the wire. It looked almost like a jabbering NIC, but disconnecting and reconnecting the Ethernet cable got it working again. For the 6-8 total unit running years across the 3 units, the one problem is a pretty good record, IMO. HTH, Mark From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 4 14:33:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3436C16A4CE for ; Mon, 4 Oct 2004 14:33:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from atlasta.net (mail.atlasta.net [209.246.234.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E671A43D31 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 2004 14:33:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drais@atlasta.net) Received: (qmail 5558 invoked by uid 1012); 4 Oct 2004 14:33:05 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 4 Oct 2004 14:33:05 -0000 Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 07:33:05 -0700 (PDT) From: David Raistrick To: "Marc G. Fournier" In-Reply-To: <20041003154333.B96717@ganymede.hub.org> Message-ID: References: <20041003154333.B96717@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Need 'remote power bar' recommendations ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 14:33:07 -0000 On Sun, 3 Oct 2004, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > Any particular model, or they are all good? Found this one, which appears > to do what I want ... > > http://www.kvms.com/nav/item.asp?item=4228 I've got 4 of the Baytech RPC3's (the last part of the number, ie -15NC describes the plug style.) and one WTI unit. I prefer the Baytech's over the WTI, though the WTI has been shelved for about a year now. As someone else mentions, it does have problems if you disconnect a telnet session without logging out...you'll have to wait a bit. Oh, and the RPC3's are 1u instead of 2...that helps. :) They both work well, though. Memory says the Baytechs have a bit more per-port power-usage reporting, etc, but I don't really remember now. ...david --- david raistrick http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html drais@atlasta.net http://www.expita.com/nomime.html From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 4 14:53:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F2FA16A4CE for ; Mon, 4 Oct 2004 14:53:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from beans.mrcoffee.org (beans.mrcoffee.org [204.8.45.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06F8F43D2F for ; Mon, 4 Oct 2004 14:53:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atr@mrcoffee.org) Received: by beans.mrcoffee.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0533E2153; Mon, 4 Oct 2004 10:51:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by beans.mrcoffee.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F12002152 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 2004 10:51:11 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 10:51:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Ryder To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20041004104634.T72397@beans.mrcoffee.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: RE: Need 'remote power bar' recommendations ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 14:53:53 -0000 Hi, I own a DS-RPC2 + RPC3. I use both for colocated equipment. I have DS71-MD3 for one using a POTS line. On my RPC3, I have the DS72 telnet access module. It's hard to find the DS62 with ssh (VPN comes in handy) I suggest calling Baytech with the Serial numbers ready from the boards + unit. They won't talk to you without these (but I've got both off ebay so don't think they won't help you at all) The baytech adapters are very weird. After blowing 3 modular db9 adapters, I gave up and ordered their adapters with my firmware chip upgrades (they ship you these for the cost of shipping) They're a good company to deal with. I've never used WTI/Comtrol products for this application but there is a good dealer in California I've ordered from a few times on eBay. -Andrew On Mon, 4 Oct 2004, David Raistrick wrote: > On Sun, 3 Oct 2004, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > >> >> Any particular model, or they are all good? Found this one, which appears >> to do what I want ... >> >> http://www.kvms.com/nav/item.asp?item=4228 > > > I've got 4 of the Baytech RPC3's (the last part of the number, ie -15NC > describes the plug style.) and one WTI unit. > > I prefer the Baytech's over the WTI, though the WTI has been shelved for > about a year now. As someone else mentions, it does have problems if you > disconnect a telnet session without logging out...you'll have to wait a > bit. > > Oh, and the RPC3's are 1u instead of 2...that helps. :) > > > They both work well, though. 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Thank you for your interest in our Web Site and Program :o) --- To stop further mailings or to change your details visit: http://getresponse.com/r?y=MjA1ODI3L2ZyZWVic2QtaXNwQGZyZWVic2Qub3JnLzAv From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 5 00:19:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0DF416A4CE for ; Tue, 5 Oct 2004 00:19:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sfverio-131.cisdata.net (sfverio-131.cisdata.net [130.94.248.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0F1243D2F for ; Tue, 5 Oct 2004 00:19:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dguerrero@cisdata.net) Received: from adsl-69-106-78-180.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net ([69.106.78.180] helo=[192.168.43.179]) by sfverio-131.cisdata.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #5) id 1CEdDq-0001po-00 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 17:30:30 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <2F80375A-1664-11D9-A480-000A95B49708@cisdata.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Denis Guerrero Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 17:19:13 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Subject: Netgraph Fast Ether-Channel kernel module X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 00:19:31 -0000 I recently came across the documentation provided at http://www.bsd-dk.dk/archives/2001/Mar/0027.html for implementing the Netgraph Fast-Channel kernel module on FreeBSD systems it works great. One thing that I have not been able to figure out is how to change the mtu on the pseudo device to anything greater than 1500(I want mtu 9000). If I do #ifconfig fec0 mtu 1000 (this works if its any value less than 1500) but, if I do #ifconfig fec0 mtu 9000 (I get the following: " ifconfig: ioctl (set mtu): Invalid argument ") I also tried changing the "NG_FEC_MTU_Default 1500" line in the ng_fec.h file to NG_FEC_MTU_Default 9000 and then do a build/install new kernel and build/install world. Still have no success. I you have any suggestions I would greatly appreciate it. HERE IS MY ENTIRE SCRIPT: #! /bin/sh echo "load module"; cd /usr/src/sys/modules/netgraph/fec/ kldload /usr/src/sys/modules/netgraph/fec/ng_fec.ko echo "kldstat results"; kldstat echo "create psuedo fec interfaces"; ngctl mkpeer fec dummy fec echo "bind physical interfaces to pseudo devices"; ngctl msg fec0: add_iface '"em0"' ngctl msg fec0: add_iface '"em1"' echo "set capture mode for each pseudo interface"; ngctl msg fec0: set_mode_inet echo "set all physical and pseudo interfaces to promiscuous mode"; ifconfig fec0 promisc ifconfig em0 promisc ifconfig em1 promisc echo "bring up pseudos"; ifconfig fec0 up Regards, Denis From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 5 09:06:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACFDC16A4D0 for ; Tue, 5 Oct 2004 09:06:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dns2.thmu.edu.tw (dns2.thmu.edu.tw [210.60.31.152]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9E2843D46 for ; Tue, 5 Oct 2004 09:06:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@dns2.thmu.edu.tw) Received: from localhost (iscan@localhost) by dns2.thmu.edu.tw (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with SMTP id i959Bet00581 for ; Tue, 5 Oct 2004 17:11:40 +0800 (CST) Message-Id: <200410050911.i959Bet00581@dns2.thmu.edu.tw> X-Authentication-Warning: dns2.thmu.edu.tw: iscan owned process doing -bs From: root@dns2.thmu.edu.tw To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 17:11:41 +0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Virus Alert X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 09:06:44 -0000 The mail message (file: email-body) you sent to research@thmu.edu.tw contains a virus. (on dns2) From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 5 09:06:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54E9C16A4CE for ; Tue, 5 Oct 2004 09:06:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dns2.thmu.edu.tw (dns2.thmu.edu.tw [210.60.31.152]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F9BF43D41 for ; Tue, 5 Oct 2004 09:06:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@dns2.thmu.edu.tw) Received: from localhost (iscan@localhost) by dns2.thmu.edu.tw (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with SMTP id i959Bfj00604 for ; Tue, 5 Oct 2004 17:11:42 +0800 (CST) Message-Id: <200410050911.i959Bfj00604@dns2.thmu.edu.tw> X-Authentication-Warning: dns2.thmu.edu.tw: iscan owned process doing -bs From: root@dns2.thmu.edu.tw To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 17:11:42 +0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Virus Alert X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 09:06:46 -0000 The mail message (file: message.pif) you sent to research@thmu.edu.tw contains a virus. (on dns2) From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 4 22:56:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D0D316A4CE for ; Mon, 4 Oct 2004 22:56:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out004.verizon.net (out004pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2C5043D46 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 2004 22:56:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from r.juliano@verizon.net) Received: from ralph3 ([141.158.1.166]) by out004.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20041004225634.CJAQ28868.out004.verizon.net@ralph3> for ; Mon, 4 Oct 2004 17:56:34 -0500 Message-ID: <012c01c4aa63$2a54a0d0$6400a8c0@ralph3> From: "Ralph Juliano" To: References: <004801c4a8c8$c35faf50$6400a8c0@ralph3> Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 18:40:35 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out004.verizon.net from [141.158.1.166] at Mon, 4 Oct 2004 17:56:33 -0500 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 12:21:31 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: SENDMAIL X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 22:56:35 -0000 Subject: SENDMAIL For us to provide a SENDMAIL SERVICE, we need help to configure our = mail server, using open source resources (no linux) with the capability to = send up to one million messages daily. Our server must be remotely automated to function flawlessly 24/7. If our requirements are within the realm of your ability, kindly = advise us of the options and your fee (contract) to perform this task. Sincerely, Ralph Juliano Wilmington, DE USA mailto:r.juliano@verizon.net =20 P.S. We have purchased a 4.4 million Double-Opt-In mailing list of = Opportunity Seekers. We want to acquire the ability to send these recipients a new message = - every week. Ralph Juliano From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 5 14:34:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9884416A4CE for ; Tue, 5 Oct 2004 14:34:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mgw1.MEIway.com (mgw1.meiway.com [81.255.84.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15A0443D4C for ; Tue, 5 Oct 2004 14:34:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) Received: from VirusGate.MEIway.com (virusgate.meiway.com [81.255.84.76]) by mgw1.MEIway.com (Postfix Relay Hub) with ESMTP id CC7FD4718D5 for ; Tue, 5 Oct 2004 16:34:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.MEIWay.com [127.0.0.1]) by VirusGate.MEIway.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 537EB3865CD for ; Tue, 5 Oct 2004 16:47:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) X-AV-Checked: Tue Oct 5 16:47:03 2004 virusgate.meiway.com Received: from mail.Go2France.com (ms1.meiway.com [81.255.84.73]) by VirusGate.MEIway.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4847A3865C8 for ; Tue, 5 Oct 2004 16:47:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) Received: from tx2.Go2France.com [24.227.147.227] by mail.Go2France.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.07) id AF3811050066; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 16:27:04 +0200 Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.2.20041005093030.03eebec0@81.255.84.73> X-Sender: LConrad@Go2France.com@81.255.84.73 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.1.1 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 09:35:57 -0500 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Len Conrad In-Reply-To: <012c01c4aa63$2a54a0d0$6400a8c0@ralph3> References: <004801c4a8c8$c35faf50$6400a8c0@ralph3> <012c01c4aa63$2a54a0d0$6400a8c0@ralph3> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: Re: SENDMAIL X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 14:34:02 -0000 > Subject: SENDMAIL > > > > For us to provide a SENDMAIL SERVICE, we need help to configure our mail > server, using open source resources (no linux) with the capability to > send up > to one million messages daily. if you are just starting out, I suggest postfix at MTA as being much easier to configure and admin than the other MTAs, >Our server must be remotely automated to function flawlessly 24/7. for that volume mail, I recommend multiple types of MTA configuration. One MTA for MX (inbound), one MTA for outbound, another MTA for mailbox storage. In fact, I would recommend putting content-scanning (ant-virus) on a dedicated MTA. 1. MX sends inbound to 2. 2. AV a. sends inbound to 3. b. sends outbound to 4. 3. mailbox sends outbound to 2. 4. outbound MTA sends to Internet Len _____________________________________________________________________ http://IMGate.MEIway.com : free anti-spam gateway, runs on 1000's of sites From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 5 14:43:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B212616A4CE for ; Tue, 5 Oct 2004 14:43:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay.ceti.pl (relay.ceti.pl [62.121.128.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38E3443D53 for ; Tue, 5 Oct 2004 14:43:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from miki@ceti.pl) Received: from tau.ceti.pl (tau.ceti.pl [62.121.128.11]) by relay.ceti.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2D9B164174; Tue, 5 Oct 2004 16:43:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: by tau.ceti.pl (Postfix, from userid 1920) id F0EE4202FEC; Tue, 5 Oct 2004 16:43:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tau.ceti.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id F07261E70CA; Tue, 5 Oct 2004 16:43:08 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 16:43:08 +0200 (CEST) From: Mikolaj Rydzewski To: Len Conrad In-Reply-To: <6.1.1.1.2.20041005093030.03eebec0@81.255.84.73> Message-ID: X-PGP-Fingerprint: B437 FB84 7507 3499 79AE 9DB5 1A2B 8256 8B12 AB02 X-PGP-PublicKey: http://ceti.pl/~miki/pubkey.txt X-Phone: +48(502)502483 X-GG: 4185132 X-nic-hdl: MR3035-RIPE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SENDMAIL X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 14:43:10 -0000 On Tue, 5 Oct 2004, Len Conrad wrote: > > For us to provide a SENDMAIL SERVICE, we need help to configure our mail > > server, using open source resources (no linux) with the capability to > > send up > > to one million messages daily. [...] > > We have purchased a 4.4 million Double-Opt-In mailing list of > > Opportunity Seekers. > > We want to acquire the ability to send these recipients a new message > > every week. > > for that volume mail, I recommend multiple types of MTA configuration. One > MTA for MX (inbound), one MTA for outbound, another MTA for mailbox > storage. In fact, I would recommend putting content-scanning (ant-virus) on > a dedicated MTA. I'm afraid, that no MX'es, AV scanners, mailboxes are required for sending spam... -- Mikolaj Rydzewski http://ceti.pl/~miki/ PGP KeyID: 8b12ab02 There are three kinds of people: men, women, and unix. From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 5 22:04:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4B9316A4CE for ; Tue, 5 Oct 2004 22:04:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mxb.saturn-tech.com (mxb.saturn-tech.com [207.229.19.99]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 519B543D39 for ; Tue, 5 Oct 2004 22:04:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drussell@saturn-tech.com) Received: from mxb.saturn-tech.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mxb.saturn-tech.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id i95M7HKt009913; Tue, 5 Oct 2004 16:07:18 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from drussell@saturn-tech.com) Received: from localhost (drussell@localhost)i95M7Hnj009910; Tue, 5 Oct 2004 16:07:17 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from drussell@saturn-tech.com) X-Authentication-Warning: mxb.saturn-tech.com: drussell owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 16:07:17 -0600 (MDT) From: Doug Russell To: Ralph Juliano In-Reply-To: <012c01c4aa63$2a54a0d0$6400a8c0@ralph3> Message-ID: <20041005160421.T9629-100000@mxb.saturn-tech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SENDMAIL X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 22:04:24 -0000 On Mon, 4 Oct 2004, Ralph Juliano wrote: > If our requirements are within the realm of your ability, kindly > advise us of > the options and your fee (contract) to perform this task. ... > We have purchased a 4.4 million Double-Opt-In mailing list of > Opportunity Seekers. > We want to acquire the ability to send these recipients a new message > - every week. Uhh, so in other words, you are trying to set up a spamming operation. I'm sure there are many people on this list who could easily do it for you, but I doubt many would be willing to help you. Later...... 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Fournier" In-Reply-To: <20041002221538.M64687@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20041002221538.M64687@ganymede.hub.org> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1097054980.939.21.camel@laptop.irrelevant.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 10:29:41 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -4.6 (----) X-Spam-Report: Content analysis details: (-4.6 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description --------------------------------------------------1% [score: 0.0000] 0.3 AWL AWL: Auto-whitelist adjustment cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need 'remote power bar' recommendations ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 09:30:29 -0000 On Sun, 2004-10-03 at 02:16, Marc G. 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We actually use an APC AP7920 Switched Rack PDU which has 8 ports, telnet and web access, etc, we have about 5 of them currently and have had no problems so far From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 6 15:14:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41C0016A4CE for ; Wed, 6 Oct 2004 15:14:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smf-camp9.smf.ebay.com (smfcamppool09.emailebay.com [66.135.215.238]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 222CA43D3F for ; Wed, 6 Oct 2004 15:14:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cmuser@shaggy.smf.ebay.com) Received: from shaggy.smf.ebay.com (fallback-camp.vip.smf.ebay.com [10.108.160.50])i96FEKQ2027489 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 2004 08:14:20 -0700 Received: (from cmuser@localhost) by shaggy.smf.ebay.com (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) id i96FEKt14326; Wed, 6 Oct 2004 08:14:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 08:14:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Unexpected reply handler Message-Id: <200410061514.i96FEKt14326@shaggy.smf.ebay.com> To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org References: <200410061434.i96EYB40009460@mailhost4.sjc.ebay.com> In-Reply-To: <200410061434.i96EYB40009460@mailhost4.sjc.ebay.com> Precedence: junk X-Loop: reply@reply.ebay.com Subject: Re: Information X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 15:14:26 -0000 Thank you for your response. 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Once you're done, be sure to click the "Save Changes" button at the top or bottom of the page. Again, thanks for writing eBay. -- From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 7 15:19:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2786F16A4CE; Thu, 7 Oct 2004 15:19:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-222-46-91.eastlink.ca [24.222.46.91]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1D9F43D3F; Thu, 7 Oct 2004 15:19:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1DDA33D1D4; Thu, 7 Oct 2004 12:19:28 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1976B3D173; Thu, 7 Oct 2004 12:19:28 -0300 (ADT) Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 12:19:28 -0300 (ADT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041007120946.K2822@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Reduce effects of DDoS attack ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 15:19:29 -0000 I've got 5 servers sitting on a 10/100 unmanaged switch right now ... last night, a DDoS attack against a network "beside us" cause 70+% packet loss on our network, and I'm trying to figure out if there is anything I can do from my side to "compensate" for this ... I run ipaudit on all our servers, and a normal 30 minute period looks like: neptune# gzcat 2004-10-06-22:00.txt.gz | grep 200.046.204 | wc -l 12107 neptune# gzcat 2004-10-06-22:00.txt.gz | grep -v 200.046.204 | wc -l 112 neptune# gzcat 2004-10-06-22:00.txt.gz | wc -l 12219 where 200.046.204 is our C-class ... Now, when the DDoS attack is running, those stats change to: neptune# gzcat 2004-10-06-17:30.txt.gz | grep 200.046.204 | wc -l 5815 neptune# gzcat 2004-10-06-17:30.txt.gz | grep -v 200.046.204 | wc -l 594189 neptune# gzcat 2004-10-06-17:30.txt.gz | wc -l 600004 We're getting *alot* of traffic on our network that just is not ours ... Now, I can login to the servers, and load is negligible ... but packet loss is anywhere from 50->90%, so pretty much unusable ... Now, the shared 'switch' between our networks is a Cisco Catalyst 2900xl ... is there something that should be set on that so that I don't see that network traffic? Basically, the only network traffic that I should/want to see is that for my network .. in this case, 200.46.204? Baring that ... is there anything that I can do on the FreeBSD side of things to reduce the impact of the "extra packets"? Some way of "absorbing them"? For instance, if the packet is coming in, and it isn't for that server, then I imagine it has to 'bounce' it back out again, compounding the problem, no? Also ... since the FreeBSD servers do seem to be handling the load, is it possible that the unmanaged switch that i have in place between the FreeBSD box and the Cisco switch is 'buckling under the load'? Not able to handle the packets fast enough, and therefore just drop'ng them? The unmanage switch is a 10/100 Linksys Switch ... Thanks for any responses ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 7 15:37:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E018616A4CE; Thu, 7 Oct 2004 15:37:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B88743D3F; Thu, 7 Oct 2004 15:37:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) i97FbZvI001253 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 7 Oct 2004 16:37:35 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)i97FbZ6w001252; Thu, 7 Oct 2004 16:37:35 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 16:37:35 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: "Marc G. Fournier" Message-ID: <20041007153735.GB691@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , "Marc G. Fournier" , freebsd-net@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20041007120946.K2822@ganymede.hub.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="GID0FwUMdk1T2AWN" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041007120946.K2822@ganymede.hub.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.5.6 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Thu, 07 Oct 2004 16:37:35 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040904, clamav-milter version 0.75l on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Reduce effects of DDoS attack ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 15:37:39 -0000 --GID0FwUMdk1T2AWN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 12:19:28PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: >=20 > I've got 5 servers sitting on a 10/100 unmanaged switch right now ... las= t=20 > night, a DDoS attack against a network "beside us" cause 70+% packet loss= =20 > on our network, and I'm trying to figure out if there is anything I can d= o=20 > from my side to "compensate" for this ... >=20 > I run ipaudit on all our servers, and a normal 30 minute period looks=20 > like: >=20 > neptune# gzcat 2004-10-06-22:00.txt.gz | grep 200.046.204 | wc -l > 12107 > neptune# gzcat 2004-10-06-22:00.txt.gz | grep -v 200.046.204 | wc -l > 112 > neptune# gzcat 2004-10-06-22:00.txt.gz | wc -l > 12219 >=20 > where 200.046.204 is our C-class ... >=20 > Now, when the DDoS attack is running, those stats change to: >=20 > neptune# gzcat 2004-10-06-17:30.txt.gz | grep 200.046.204 | wc -l > 5815 > neptune# gzcat 2004-10-06-17:30.txt.gz | grep -v 200.046.204 | wc -l > 594189 > neptune# gzcat 2004-10-06-17:30.txt.gz | wc -l > 600004 >=20 > We're getting *alot* of traffic on our network that just is not ours ... Seems that when the CISCO box upstream gets overloaded it starts sending packets everywhere, instead of just to the networks they're intended for. You could put in a filtering bridge upstream of your unmanaged switch, which would let you strip out everything not intended for your assigned subnet. However, as your FreeBSD servers seem to be handling the load just fine, that probably won't do you much good. If the switch upstream of you is completely overloaded, there's not a lot you can do, other than get your network moved over to some less loaded equipment. =20 Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --GID0FwUMdk1T2AWN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBZWK/iD657aJF7eIRAspBAJ9IXfZWOznX1FEHBH+6IozLGaWB/gCcDiKm YcZ2C7HEvAfxJEUUObKmBiU= =Zoc4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --GID0FwUMdk1T2AWN-- From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 7 15:48:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B77A516A4CE for ; Thu, 7 Oct 2004 15:48:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from spintime.org (mail.spintime.org [207.206.44.110]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2850543D48 for ; Thu, 7 Oct 2004 15:48:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cody@wilkshire.net) Received: (qmail 19585 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2004 15:47:22 -0000 Received: from 143.206.249.6 by spintime.org (envelope-from , uid 0) with qmail-scanner-1.23 (clamdscan: 0.75.1. Clear:RC:1(143.206.249.6):. Processed in 0.160152 secs); 07 Oct 2004 15:47:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.200.213.35?) (spinnah@spintime.org@143.206.249.6) by mail.spintime.org with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 7 Oct 2004 15:47:21 -0000 Message-ID: <416564C8.1080506@wilkshire.net> Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 11:46:16 -0400 From: Cody Baker User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (Windows/20040803) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Marc G. Fournier" , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org References: <20041007120946.K2822@ganymede.hub.org> In-Reply-To: <20041007120946.K2822@ganymede.hub.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Reduce effects of DDoS attack ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 15:48:09 -0000 The packets your 200.046.204 machines are receiving are most likely ARP packets, which are Ethernet level broadcast. They can't really be stopped with out dividing the physical network in to two pieces or VLANs. If your router supports VLANs, you can divide your subnet to one portion of that catalyst switch, and the offending network to another portion. This is a good policy in terms of security, but it's not going to fix your problem. Unless you're extremely well connected to the Internet (something greater than 10MB/s), you're problem has nothing to do with anything on your network, rather the pipe between your network and the world is just congested. The other possibility is that your router isn't able to keep up with the load. I would suggest that your best bet is to talk to your upstream provider, see if they can't block the attack in anyway. In regards to Matthew's response, the Cisco switch should be capable of handling all but the most intense attacks. In terms of the Linksys, the only thing it's going to be seeing is the ARP packets, and while those network wide broadcasts are detrimental, they're not going to be the cause of 70% packet loss. Thank you, Cody Baker cody@wilkshire.net 330.934.0659 http://www.wilkshire.net Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > I've got 5 servers sitting on a 10/100 unmanaged switch right now ... > last night, a DDoS attack against a network "beside us" cause 70+% > packet loss on our network, and I'm trying to figure out if there is > anything I can do from my side to "compensate" for this ... > > I run ipaudit on all our servers, and a normal 30 minute period looks > like: > > neptune# gzcat 2004-10-06-22:00.txt.gz | grep 200.046.204 | wc -l > 12107 > neptune# gzcat 2004-10-06-22:00.txt.gz | grep -v 200.046.204 | wc -l > 112 > neptune# gzcat 2004-10-06-22:00.txt.gz | wc -l > 12219 > > where 200.046.204 is our C-class ... > > Now, when the DDoS attack is running, those stats change to: > > neptune# gzcat 2004-10-06-17:30.txt.gz | grep 200.046.204 | wc -l > 5815 > neptune# gzcat 2004-10-06-17:30.txt.gz | grep -v 200.046.204 | wc -l > 594189 > neptune# gzcat 2004-10-06-17:30.txt.gz | wc -l > 600004 > > We're getting *alot* of traffic on our network that just is not ours ... > > Now, I can login to the servers, and load is negligible ... but packet > loss is anywhere from 50->90%, so pretty much unusable ... > > Now, the shared 'switch' between our networks is a Cisco Catalyst > 2900xl ... is there something that should be set on that so that I > don't see that network traffic? Basically, the only network traffic > that I should/want to see is that for my network .. in this case, > 200.46.204? > > Baring that ... is there anything that I can do on the FreeBSD side of > things to reduce the impact of the "extra packets"? Some way of > "absorbing them"? For instance, if the packet is coming in, and it > isn't for that server, then I imagine it has to 'bounce' it back out > again, compounding the problem, no? > > Also ... since the FreeBSD servers do seem to be handling the load, is > it possible that the unmanaged switch that i have in place between the > FreeBSD box and the Cisco switch is 'buckling under the load'? Not > able to handle the packets fast enough, and therefore just drop'ng them? > > The unmanage switch is a 10/100 Linksys Switch ... > > Thanks for any responses ... > > ---- > Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services > (http://www.hub.org) > Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: > 7615664 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 7 15:58:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0F4416A4CE for ; Thu, 7 Oct 2004 15:58:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from spintime.org (mail.spintime.org [207.206.44.110]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4568043D39 for ; Thu, 7 Oct 2004 15:58:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cody@wilkshire.net) Received: (qmail 19774 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2004 15:57:48 -0000 Received: from 143.206.249.6 by spintime.org (envelope-from , uid 0) with qmail-scanner-1.23 (clamdscan: 0.75.1. Clear:RC:1(143.206.249.6):. Processed in 0.160113 secs); 07 Oct 2004 15:57:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.200.213.35?) (spinnah@spintime.org@143.206.249.6) by mail.spintime.org with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 7 Oct 2004 15:57:47 -0000 Message-ID: <4165673B.7030805@wilkshire.net> Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 11:56:43 -0400 From: Cody Baker User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (Windows/20040803) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Cody Baker , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org References: <20041007120946.K2822@ganymede.hub.org> <416564C8.1080506@wilkshire.net> In-Reply-To: <416564C8.1080506@wilkshire.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Reduce effects of DDoS attack ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 15:58:35 -0000 Another little note: Are you absolutely positive that the other network is clean and not the cause rather than the victim. We had a computer in our PC repair bay that a technician accidentally cconnected to the web before a virus scan. It had a virus which ran a syn flood against some gaming website. It was horrendously difficult to track down because it created a MASSIVE amount of traffic. This traffic which is bleeding over could be ARP traffic from a virus scanning through subnets. It would generate one ARP request for every IP address it attempts to contact, a scary thought when you have a virus scanning a few thousand IPs/second. This huge amount of ARP traffic would be very detrimental to your router as well.. Thank you, Cody Baker cody@wilkshire.net 330.934.0659 http://www.wilkshire.net Cody Baker wrote: > The packets your 200.046.204 machines are receiving are most likely > ARP packets, which are Ethernet level broadcast. They can't really be > stopped with out dividing the physical network in to two pieces or > VLANs. If your router supports VLANs, you can divide your subnet to > one portion of that catalyst switch, and the offending network to > another portion. This is a good policy in terms of security, but it's > not going to fix your problem. Unless you're extremely well connected > to the Internet (something greater than 10MB/s), you're problem has > nothing to do with anything on your network, rather the pipe between > your network and the world is just congested. The other possibility > is that your router isn't able to keep up with the load. I would > suggest that your best bet is to talk to your upstream provider, see > if they can't block the attack in anyway. > > In regards to Matthew's response, the Cisco switch should be capable > of handling all but the most intense attacks. In terms of the > Linksys, the only thing it's going to be seeing is the ARP packets, > and while those network wide broadcasts are detrimental, they're not > going to be the cause of 70% packet loss. > > Thank you, > > Cody Baker > cody@wilkshire.net > 330.934.0659 > http://www.wilkshire.net > > Marc G. Fournier wrote: > >> >> I've got 5 servers sitting on a 10/100 unmanaged switch right now ... >> last night, a DDoS attack against a network "beside us" cause 70+% >> packet loss on our network, and I'm trying to figure out if there is >> anything I can do from my side to "compensate" for this ... >> >> I run ipaudit on all our servers, and a normal 30 minute period looks >> like: >> >> neptune# gzcat 2004-10-06-22:00.txt.gz | grep 200.046.204 | wc -l >> 12107 >> neptune# gzcat 2004-10-06-22:00.txt.gz | grep -v 200.046.204 | wc -l >> 112 >> neptune# gzcat 2004-10-06-22:00.txt.gz | wc -l >> 12219 >> >> where 200.046.204 is our C-class ... >> >> Now, when the DDoS attack is running, those stats change to: >> >> neptune# gzcat 2004-10-06-17:30.txt.gz | grep 200.046.204 | wc -l >> 5815 >> neptune# gzcat 2004-10-06-17:30.txt.gz | grep -v 200.046.204 | wc -l >> 594189 >> neptune# gzcat 2004-10-06-17:30.txt.gz | wc -l >> 600004 >> >> We're getting *alot* of traffic on our network that just is not ours ... >> >> Now, I can login to the servers, and load is negligible ... but >> packet loss is anywhere from 50->90%, so pretty much unusable ... >> >> Now, the shared 'switch' between our networks is a Cisco Catalyst >> 2900xl ... is there something that should be set on that so that I >> don't see that network traffic? Basically, the only network traffic >> that I should/want to see is that for my network .. in this case, >> 200.46.204? >> >> Baring that ... is there anything that I can do on the FreeBSD side >> of things to reduce the impact of the "extra packets"? Some way of >> "absorbing them"? For instance, if the packet is coming in, and it >> isn't for that server, then I imagine it has to 'bounce' it back out >> again, compounding the problem, no? >> >> Also ... since the FreeBSD servers do seem to be handling the load, >> is it possible that the unmanaged switch that i have in place between >> the FreeBSD box and the Cisco switch is 'buckling under the load'? >> Not able to handle the packets fast enough, and therefore just >> drop'ng them? >> >> The unmanage switch is a 10/100 Linksys Switch ... >> >> Thanks for any responses ... >> >> ---- >> Marc G. 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Again, thanks for writing eBay. -- From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 8 02:21:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 795B116A4CE for ; Fri, 8 Oct 2004 02:21:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EAFD43D39 for ; Fri, 8 Oct 2004 02:21:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.144]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB0C570DF22; Thu, 7 Oct 2004 23:21:25 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 35452-05; Fri, 8 Oct 2004 02:21:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-222-46-91.eastlink.ca [24.222.46.91]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69AA670DE89; Thu, 7 Oct 2004 22:26:01 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6C47E3946E; Thu, 7 Oct 2004 22:26:03 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53E2E391FD; Thu, 7 Oct 2004 22:26:03 -0300 (ADT) Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 22:26:03 -0300 (ADT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: Cody Baker In-Reply-To: <4165673B.7030805@wilkshire.net> Message-ID: <20041007222434.P935@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20041007120946.K2822@ganymede.hub.org> <416564C8.1080506@wilkshire.net> <4165673B.7030805@wilkshire.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hub.org cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Reduce effects of DDoS attack ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 02:21:32 -0000 Actually, found out earlier today that this does, in fact, appear to be closer to the problem ... MS-SQL servers taht were infected by virii were on the network that was flooding us ... so what you describe below sounds like what probably happened :( On Thu, 7 Oct 2004, Cody Baker wrote: > Another little note: Are you absolutely positive that the other network is > clean and not the cause rather than the victim. We had a computer in our PC > repair bay that a technician accidentally cconnected to the web before a > virus scan. It had a virus which ran a syn flood against some gaming > website. It was horrendously difficult to track down because it created a > MASSIVE amount of traffic. This traffic which is bleeding over could be ARP > traffic from a virus scanning through subnets. It would generate one ARP > request for every IP address it attempts to contact, a scary thought when you > have a virus scanning a few thousand IPs/second. This huge amount of ARP > traffic would be very detrimental to your router as well.. > > Thank you, > > Cody Baker > cody@wilkshire.net > 330.934.0659 > http://www.wilkshire.net > > > Cody Baker wrote: > >> The packets your 200.046.204 machines are receiving are most likely ARP >> packets, which are Ethernet level broadcast. They can't really be stopped >> with out dividing the physical network in to two pieces or VLANs. If your >> router supports VLANs, you can divide your subnet to one portion of that >> catalyst switch, and the offending network to another portion. This is a >> good policy in terms of security, but it's not going to fix your problem. >> Unless you're extremely well connected to the Internet (something greater >> than 10MB/s), you're problem has nothing to do with anything on your >> network, rather the pipe between your network and the world is just >> congested. The other possibility is that your router isn't able to keep up >> with the load. I would suggest that your best bet is to talk to your >> upstream provider, see if they can't block the attack in anyway. >> >> In regards to Matthew's response, the Cisco switch should be capable of >> handling all but the most intense attacks. In terms of the Linksys, the >> only thing it's going to be seeing is the ARP packets, and while those >> network wide broadcasts are detrimental, they're not going to be the cause >> of 70% packet loss. >> >> Thank you, >> >> Cody Baker >> cody@wilkshire.net >> 330.934.0659 >> http://www.wilkshire.net >> >> Marc G. Fournier wrote: >> >>> >>> I've got 5 servers sitting on a 10/100 unmanaged switch right now ... last >>> night, a DDoS attack against a network "beside us" cause 70+% packet loss >>> on our network, and I'm trying to figure out if there is anything I can do >>> from my side to "compensate" for this ... >>> >>> I run ipaudit on all our servers, and a normal 30 minute period looks >>> like: >>> >>> neptune# gzcat 2004-10-06-22:00.txt.gz | grep 200.046.204 | wc -l >>> 12107 >>> neptune# gzcat 2004-10-06-22:00.txt.gz | grep -v 200.046.204 | wc -l >>> 112 >>> neptune# gzcat 2004-10-06-22:00.txt.gz | wc -l >>> 12219 >>> >>> where 200.046.204 is our C-class ... >>> >>> Now, when the DDoS attack is running, those stats change to: >>> >>> neptune# gzcat 2004-10-06-17:30.txt.gz | grep 200.046.204 | wc -l >>> 5815 >>> neptune# gzcat 2004-10-06-17:30.txt.gz | grep -v 200.046.204 | wc -l >>> 594189 >>> neptune# gzcat 2004-10-06-17:30.txt.gz | wc -l >>> 600004 >>> >>> We're getting *alot* of traffic on our network that just is not ours ... >>> >>> Now, I can login to the servers, and load is negligible ... but packet >>> loss is anywhere from 50->90%, so pretty much unusable ... >>> >>> Now, the shared 'switch' between our networks is a Cisco Catalyst 2900xl >>> ... is there something that should be set on that so that I don't see that >>> network traffic? Basically, the only network traffic that I should/want >>> to see is that for my network .. in this case, 200.46.204? >>> >>> Baring that ... is there anything that I can do on the FreeBSD side of >>> things to reduce the impact of the "extra packets"? Some way of >>> "absorbing them"? For instance, if the packet is coming in, and it isn't >>> for that server, then I imagine it has to 'bounce' it back out again, >>> compounding the problem, no? >>> >>> Also ... since the FreeBSD servers do seem to be handling the load, is it >>> possible that the unmanaged switch that i have in place between the >>> FreeBSD box and the Cisco switch is 'buckling under the load'? Not able >>> to handle the packets fast enough, and therefore just drop'ng them? >>> >>> The unmanage switch is a 10/100 Linksys Switch ... >>> >>> Thanks for any responses ... >>> >>> ---- >>> Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services >>> (http://www.hub.org) >>> Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: >>> 7615664 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ---- Marc G. 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MailMarshal Rule: Content Security (Inbound) : Block Dangerous Attachments Email Content Security provided by NetIQ MailMarshal. ----=36eb62c2-fac7-4fdb-9442-b22dcbe1f450-- From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 8 16:47:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F6AF16A4CF for ; Fri, 8 Oct 2004 16:47:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 075D343D2D for ; Fri, 8 Oct 2004 16:47:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tethys.ocean@gmail.com) Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 76so47965rnk for ; Fri, 08 Oct 2004 09:47:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.102.60 with SMTP id z60mr184010rnb; Fri, 08 Oct 2004 09:47:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.102.56 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Oct 2004 09:47:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <235b8000041008094746dcd6ec@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 18:47:24 +0200 From: tethys ocean To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: create ftp user X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: tethys ocean List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 16:47:29 -0000 Hi, In my company, there are al lots of web hosting customer and also a customer request a FTP user who is reach to own web page and also update the company web page. I can create FTP user, but it isnt reach web area by using FTP, what must I do? #more ftpchroot @ # # more ftpd.conf chroot REAL %d # From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 8 19:28:05 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02F7716A4CE for ; Fri, 8 Oct 2004 19:28:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gumby.citytel.net (gumby.citytel.net [204.244.98.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2D6743D31 for ; Fri, 8 Oct 2004 19:28:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kwoody@citytel.net) Received: from pop.citytel.net (pop.citytel.net [204.244.98.50]) by gumby.citytel.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D62DB237350 for ; Fri, 8 Oct 2004 12:28:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 12:28:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Keith Woodworth To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Add/Del users X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 19:28:05 -0000 Weve been migrating some our servers from BSD/OS to FreeBSD. Main issue I'm running into is add/del/changing users. The old app we used under BSD/OS is not ported to FreeBSD (its a custom C cgi) author long gone, some of the header files needed to compile said cgi's not around, missing some source too so a port is out. Ive done a simple cgi that calls pw that took me a few days to put together in my spare time. Is there anything out there webwise that has already been done so I dont keep going and re-invent the wheel? All it has to do is add/remove/change users on a FBSD 4.9R system. Nothing more nothing less. Anyone have a pointer to such a beast? From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 9 23:14:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B457F16A4CE for ; Sat, 9 Oct 2004 23:14:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rrcdg.com (host-216-153-253-40.mil.choiceone.net [216.153.253.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21C7643D2F for ; Sat, 9 Oct 2004 23:14:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from osyrys@rrcdg.com) Received: from osyryshome [64.179.124.159] by rrcdg.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.06) id A2781B90460; Sat, 09 Oct 2004 18:21:28 -0500 Message-ID: <028801c4ae55$d114a1e0$9f7cb340@osyryshome> From: "Osyrys Edmister" To: Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2004 18:15:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Greetings! X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2004 23:14:50 -0000 Hello everyone, my name is Osyrys Edmister, I just recently installed = FreeBSD on the two servers I am adding to my setup and just wanted to = introduce myself to you all. I've run *nix systems for a while, and = look forward to getting back into it. BSD seems very similar to the = others I've worked with, just have to poke a little to find where things = are. Anyway, hope you're all having a good weekend and I look forward = to 'meeting' you all and helping one another! Osyrys