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Ok folks, I know that this comes up from time to time, and I know very
well the FreeBSD laptop compatibility list (which rocks!), but I think
this case is different, and here's why.
I am looking for a new laptop that has the following features:
1) pointing stick in keyboard *THIS IS A MUST*
2) AMD64 proc
3) better-than XGA display ((W)SXGA or (W)UXGA)
4) integrated and supported bluetooth
5) integrated and supported 802.11 a/b/g
6) integrated and supported 10/100(/1000) wired Ethernet
7) CDRW (not necessary, but nice)
So far, I have been stuck on the HP nc8000, and it meets every criteria
except #2 (not sure about #4). I _really_ want #2, but would settle for
the nc8000 with Pentium-M @ 1.7GHz if there is no other alternative.
Oh yeah, and I will be running -CURRENT on it.
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On Saturday, 24 July 2004 at 20:27:30 -0400, Michael W. Oliver wrote:
> Ok folks, I know that this comes up from time to time, and I know very
> well the FreeBSD laptop compatibility list (which rocks!), but I think
> this case is different, and here's why.
>
> I am looking for a new laptop that has the following features:
>
> 1) pointing stick in keyboard *THIS IS A MUST*
Well, I suppose there's no accounting for taste...
> 2) AMD64 proc
> 3) better-than XGA display ((W)SXGA or (W)UXGA)
I have no idea what this means, but I suppose you mean > 1024x768.
> 4) integrated and supported bluetooth
> 5) integrated and supported 802.11 a/b/g
> 6) integrated and supported 10/100(/1000) wired Ethernet
> 7) CDRW (not necessary, but nice)
>
> So far, I have been stuck on the HP nc8000, and it meets every
> criteria except #2 (not sure about #4). I _really_ want #2, but
> would settle for the nc8000 with Pentium-M @ 1.7GHz if there is no
> other alternative.
I suspect you'll have difficulty getting both AMD 64 and high
resolution. I have a Dell Inspiron 9100 which also has all these
features except for 2. It has display resolutions of up to 1920x1440.
Bluetooth and wireless. I haven't got the wireless working, but I've
been told that it works with Project Evil, and I suppose the Bluetooth
would too; I have no application for that.
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Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
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>I suspect you'll have difficulty getting both AMD 64 and high
>resolution. I have a Dell Inspiron 9100 which also has all these
>features except for 2. It has display resolutions of up to 1920x1440.
>Bluetooth and wireless. I haven't got the wireless working, but I've
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>would too; I have no application for that.
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Are you saying your laptop's LCD does 1920x1440, or the video out does?
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On Saturday, 24 July 2004 at 21:11:45 -0500, Eric Anderson wrote:
> Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
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>
>> I suspect you'll have difficulty getting both AMD 64 and high
>> resolution. I have a Dell Inspiron 9100 which also has all these
>> features except for 2. It has display resolutions of up to 1920x1440.
>> Bluetooth and wireless. I haven't got the wireless working, but I've
>> been told that it works with Project Evil, and I suppose the Bluetooth
>> would too; I have no application for that.
>
> Are you saying your laptop's LCD does 1920x1440, or the video out
> does?
Neither :-)
The Inspiron 9100 has an optional 1920x1440 LCD screen. Mine was
bought for me by the company, unfortunately, and only has 1680x1050.
All models can handle video out of 2048x1536.
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now this is what i do:
both cards come up;
i turn xl0 down - if i don't and try to associate ath0 i get:
ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCAIFADDR): File exists ;
with the xl0 down i do:
ifconfig ath0 inet 192.168.1.21 netmask 255.255.255.0 ssid apname; ping to
192.168.1.1 works;
ping to anywhere outside does NOT work i get:
ping: sendto: Network is down
!?!?
i don't know why..
then i bring the xl0 up ping outside works fine with it.
help?!
> some additional information from the log
> kernel: arp: 192.168.1.3 is on ath0 but got reply from
00:0b:5f:32:72:48
> on xl0
> Jul 24 18:39:50 host kernel: ath0: hardware error; resetting
> Jul 24 18:39:50 host kernel: ath0: ath_reset: unable to reset hardware;
hal status 3
> Jul 24 18:39:53 host kernel: arp: 192.168.1.3 is on ath0 but got reply
from 00:0b:5f:32:72:48 on xl0
> Jul 24 18:40:23 host last message repeated 4 times
> Jul 24 18:42:23 host last message repeated 17 times
> output from arp -a returns only:
> ? (192.168.1.1) at 00:0f:66:8b:60:13 on xl0 [ethernet]
> and arp -i ath0 -a returns nothing
> both cards have the same irq 11 at boot. i took 11 out of the
pccard.conf
> but it still comes up as 11
> can anybody help please...
> thanks
> more:
> about xl0 from dmesg:
> xl0: <3Com 3c556B Fast Etherlink XL> port 0x1800-0x18ff mem
> 0xe8101000-0xe810107f,0xe8101400-0xe810147f irq 11 at device 3.0 on pci0
xl0: chip is in D3 power mode -- setting to D0
> xl0: Ethernet address: 00:00:86:43:54:46
> miibus0: <MII bus> on xl0
> about ath0 from dmesg:
> ath0: <Atheros 5212> mem 0x88000000-0x8800ffff irq 11 at device 0.0 on
cardbus0
> ath0: mac 5.6 phy 4.1 5ghz radio 1.7 2ghz radio 2.3
> ath0: 11a rates: 6Mbps 9Mbps 12Mbps 18Mbps 24Mbps 36Mbps 48Mbps 54Mbps
ath0: 11b rates: 1Mbps 2Mbps 5.5Mbps 11Mbps
> ath0: 11g rates: 1Mbps 2Mbps 5.5Mbps 11Mbps 6Mbps 9Mbps 12Mbps 18Mbps
24Mbps 36Mbps 48Mbps 54Mbps
> ath0: turbo rates: 6Mbps 9Mbps 12Mbps 18Mbps 24Mbps 36Mbps 48Mbps 54Mbps
ath0: 802.11 address: 00:80:c8:16:eb:4b
>> hi all..
>> i'm having trouble getting an ath card to work properly
>> ifconfig output:
>> ath0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
>> inet6 fe80::280:c8ff:fe16:eb4b%ath0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4
>> ether 00:80:c8:16:eb:4b
>> media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect (DS/11Mbps)
>> status: associated
>> ssid accesspoint 1:accesspoint
>> channel 6 authmode OPEN powersavemode OFF powersavesleep 100
>> wepmode OFF weptxkey 1
>> output of wicontrol:
>> C serial number: [ ]
>> Station name: [ myhost ]
>> SSID for IBSS creation: [ accesspoint ]
>> Current netname (SSID): [ accesspoint ]
>> Desired netname (SSID): [ accesspoint ]
>> Current BSSID: [ 00:0f:66:8b:60:13 ]
>> Channel list: [ ffe 0 1510 1515 1 0 0 0 0 2320 23 ]
>> IBSS channel: [ 6 ]
>> Current channel: [ 6 ]
>> Comms quality/signal/noise: [ 0 32 0 ]
>> Promiscuous mode: [ Off ]
>> Intersil-Prism2 based card: [ 1 ]
>> Port type (1=BSS, 3=ad-hoc): [ 1 ]
>> MAC address: [ 00:80:c8:16:eb:4b ]
>> TX rate (selection): [ 0 ]
>> TX rate (actual speed): [ 11 ]
>> RTS/CTS handshake threshold: [ 2312 ]
>> Create IBSS: [ Off ]
>> Access point density: [ 1 ]
>> Power Mgmt (1=on, 0=off): [ 0 ]
>> Max sleep time: [ 100 ]
>> WEP encryption: [ Off ]
>> TX encryption key: [ 1 ]
>> Encryption keys: [ ][ ][ ][ ]
>> it dies see the router because it has status: associated and the
channel
>> setting is the one off the accesspoint.
>> when i turn the nic off and try to ping out i get:
>> ping: sendto: Network is down.
>> network is not down because if i turn the nic on again i can do the ping.
>> the router is common syslink one and the wireless setup is the
>> basic/default one with no wep yet.
>> i should say that the card was able to ping th router when the nic card
didn't come up - that happens sometimes on this machine - t20 thinkpad.
freebsd 5.2.1
>> is it an irq thing between the two cards?
>> what else needs to be done in order to get the card working?
>> thanks...
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hi Geoff..
thanks. your recipe worked. except the server i used to ping while doing
all the tests - my mail server (and only my mail server) - is no longer
accessible from my laptop?! - host is down (down my ...!). and only from
the laptop. and only with the ath0. i'm replying from another machine on
the same network with an ip one behind my laptop that reaches my mail
server interface just fine.
apparently the atheros driver for freebsd has a lot to improve still. i
probably could've bought another card and spare me the 12 or so hours of
agony of recompiling kernel and ifconfig/wicontrol/ath hell.
i'm used to do all this stuff but not for such a long time to get one wifi
card to see every machine on the internet except my mail server...
thank you, i really appreciate your help...
> I had this same problem on my laptop with an rl card and the ath as a
> pcmcia card, if I use the rc.conf to setup the ath0 card and not do
> anything with the rl0 then all is fine.
> When you take the xl0 down, you will also need to redefine your default
> gateway route as that seems to get associated with a particular card, so
> what I would have to do is take the rl0 card down with ifconfig, then
> bring the ath0 up and set its ip, netmask, ssid, wepkey and so on then
> modify the default route entry by
> route change default <ipaddress of router>
>
> if that doesnt work then
> route flush
> route add default <ipaddress of router>
>
> you can see the default route by entering
> netstat -rn
> It should be called default and have a G as one of its flags.
>
> Hope that helps
> - Geoff
>
> kalin mintchev wrote:
>> now this is what i do:
>> both cards come up;
>> i turn xl0 down - if i don't and try to associate ath0 i get:
>> ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCAIFADDR): File exists ;
>> with the xl0 down i do:
>> ifconfig ath0 inet 192.168.1.21 netmask 255.255.255.0 ssid apname; ping
>> to
>> 192.168.1.1 works;
>> ping to anywhere outside does NOT work i get:
>> ping: sendto: Network is down
>> !?!?
>> i don't know why..
>>
>> then i bring the xl0 up ping outside works fine with it.
>>
>> help?!
>>
>>
>>
>>>some additional information from the log
>>> kernel: arp: 192.168.1.3 is on ath0 but got reply from
>>
>> 00:0b:5f:32:72:48
>>
>>>on xl0
>>>Jul 24 18:39:50 host kernel: ath0: hardware error; resetting
>>>Jul 24 18:39:50 host kernel: ath0: ath_reset: unable to reset hardware;
>>
>> hal status 3
>>
>>>Jul 24 18:39:53 host kernel: arp: 192.168.1.3 is on ath0 but got reply
>>
>> from 00:0b:5f:32:72:48 on xl0
>>
>>>Jul 24 18:40:23 host last message repeated 4 times
>>>Jul 24 18:42:23 host last message repeated 17 times
>>>output from arp -a returns only:
>>>? (192.168.1.1) at 00:0f:66:8b:60:13 on xl0 [ethernet]
>>>and arp -i ath0 -a returns nothing
>>>both cards have the same irq 11 at boot. i took 11 out of the
>>
>> pccard.conf
>>
>>>but it still comes up as 11
>>>can anybody help please...
>>>thanks
>>>more:
>>>about xl0 from dmesg:
>>>xl0: <3Com 3c556B Fast Etherlink XL> port 0x1800-0x18ff mem
>>>0xe8101000-0xe810107f,0xe8101400-0xe810147f irq 11 at device 3.0 on pci0
>>
>> xl0: chip is in D3 power mode -- setting to D0
>>
>>>xl0: Ethernet address: 00:00:86:43:54:46
>>>miibus0: <MII bus> on xl0
>>>about ath0 from dmesg:
>>>ath0: <Atheros 5212> mem 0x88000000-0x8800ffff irq 11 at device 0.0 on
>>
>> cardbus0
>>
>>>ath0: mac 5.6 phy 4.1 5ghz radio 1.7 2ghz radio 2.3
>>>ath0: 11a rates: 6Mbps 9Mbps 12Mbps 18Mbps 24Mbps 36Mbps 48Mbps 54Mbps
>>
>> ath0: 11b rates: 1Mbps 2Mbps 5.5Mbps 11Mbps
>>
>>>ath0: 11g rates: 1Mbps 2Mbps 5.5Mbps 11Mbps 6Mbps 9Mbps 12Mbps 18Mbps
>>
>> 24Mbps 36Mbps 48Mbps 54Mbps
>>
>>>ath0: turbo rates: 6Mbps 9Mbps 12Mbps 18Mbps 24Mbps 36Mbps 48Mbps 54Mbps
>>
>> ath0: 802.11 address: 00:80:c8:16:eb:4b
>>
>>>>hi all..
>>>>i'm having trouble getting an ath card to work properly
>>>>ifconfig output:
>>>>ath0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
>>>> inet6 fe80::280:c8ff:fe16:eb4b%ath0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4
>>>> ether 00:80:c8:16:eb:4b
>>>> media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect (DS/11Mbps)
>>>> status: associated
>>>> ssid accesspoint 1:accesspoint
>>>> channel 6 authmode OPEN powersavemode OFF powersavesleep 100
>>>> wepmode OFF weptxkey 1
>>>>output of wicontrol:
>>>>C serial number: [ ]
>>>>Station name: [ myhost ]
>>>>SSID for IBSS creation: [ accesspoint ]
>>>>Current netname (SSID): [ accesspoint ]
>>>>Desired netname (SSID): [ accesspoint ]
>>>>Current BSSID: [ 00:0f:66:8b:60:13 ]
>>>>Channel list: [ ffe 0 1510 1515 1 0 0 0 0 2320 23 ]
>>>>IBSS channel: [ 6 ]
>>>>Current channel: [ 6 ]
>>>>Comms quality/signal/noise: [ 0 32 0 ]
>>>>Promiscuous mode: [ Off ]
>>>>Intersil-Prism2 based card: [ 1 ]
>>>>Port type (1=BSS, 3=ad-hoc): [ 1 ]
>>>>MAC address: [ 00:80:c8:16:eb:4b ]
>>>>TX rate (selection): [ 0 ]
>>>>TX rate (actual speed): [ 11 ]
>>>>RTS/CTS handshake threshold: [ 2312 ]
>>>>Create IBSS: [ Off ]
>>>>Access point density: [ 1 ]
>>>>Power Mgmt (1=on, 0=off): [ 0 ]
>>>>Max sleep time: [ 100 ]
>>>>WEP encryption: [ Off ]
>>>>TX encryption key: [ 1 ]
>>>>Encryption keys: [ ][ ][ ][ ]
>>>>it dies see the router because it has status: associated and the
>>
>> channel
>>
>>>>setting is the one off the accesspoint.
>>>>when i turn the nic off and try to ping out i get:
>>>>ping: sendto: Network is down.
>>>>network is not down because if i turn the nic on again i can do the
>>>> ping.
>>>>the router is common syslink one and the wireless setup is the
>>>>basic/default one with no wep yet.
>>>>i should say that the card was able to ping th router when the nic card
>>
>> didn't come up - that happens sometimes on this machine - t20 thinkpad.
>> freebsd 5.2.1
>>
>>>>is it an irq thing between the two cards?
>>>>what else needs to be done in order to get the card working?
>>>>thanks...
>>>>_______________________________________________
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>>>>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile
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>>>>"freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
>>>
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Hi Stuart,
You also should have difficulties with memory stick, second PC card slot
and sometimes USB, correct ? AFAIK, Sony GRX and GR series have the same
issue with interrupts delivery, when no interrupts are received by driver.
vmstat -i should confirm it.
I own GR300 and after two years fight found a workaround to get at least
sound to work with STABLE - since video and sound share the same irq 9 as
almost everything in this Sony design, if you configure kernel and X to
use DRI (http://people.freebsd.org/~anholt/dri/), it will produce enough
interrupts the sound to work well.
Two weeks ago I have installed CURRENT and found that everything works
pretty well in generic install. Also during these days CURRENT looks much
stable with my laptop than STABLE. Thanks to all people working on FreeBSD !
Hope it help you,
Hrant
> Hi all,
>
> I'm running 4.9-RELEASE on my lapper and have been trying for over a year to
> get the sound card running properly. I'm probably 'medium' level in my OS
> skills, so there may be something basic that I'm missing.
>
> Dmesg reports the following on the card:
> pcm0: <Intel ICH3 (82801CA)> port 0x18c0-0x18ff,0x1c00-0x1cff irq 9 at device
> 31.5 on pci0
> pcm0: <Yamaha YMF753 AC97 Codec>
>
> I have the same behavior I've heard others mention on this list: the sound
> works fine as long as I wiggle the mouse - presumably this is generating
> enough interrupts to keep the sound steady.
>
> I've tried both Intel ICH and the generic snd_driver and get identical (bad)
> results.
>
> Anyone have this model and get it running properly?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> --
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> Tivoli, NY 12583
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Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
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>Neither :-)
>
>The Inspiron 9100 has an optional 1920x1440 LCD screen. Mine was
>bought for me by the company, unfortunately, and only has 1680x1050.
>All models can handle video out of 2048x1536.
>
>
However, it should be noted that the 1920x1440 resolution is only for
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Thanks for the tip! I'll try upgrading to CURRENT.
Stuart
On Monday 26 July 2004 09:07 am, Hrant Dadivanyan wrote:
> Hi Stuart,
>
> You also should have difficulties with memory stick, second PC card slot
> and sometimes USB, correct ? AFAIK, Sony GRX and GR series have the same
> issue with interrupts delivery, when no interrupts are received by driver.
> vmstat -i should confirm it.
>
> I own GR300 and after two years fight found a workaround to get at least
> sound to work with STABLE - since video and sound share the same irq 9 as
> almost everything in this Sony design, if you configure kernel and X to
> use DRI (http://people.freebsd.org/~anholt/dri/), it will produce enough
> interrupts the sound to work well.
>
> Two weeks ago I have installed CURRENT and found that everything works
> pretty well in generic install. Also during these days CURRENT looks much
> stable with my laptop than STABLE. Thanks to all people working on FreeBSD
> !
>
> Hope it help you,
> Hrant
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm running 4.9-RELEASE on my lapper and have been trying for over a
> > year to get the sound card running properly. I'm probably 'medium' level
> > in my OS skills, so there may be something basic that I'm missing.
> >
> > Dmesg reports the following on the card:
> > pcm0: <Intel ICH3 (82801CA)> port 0x18c0-0x18ff,0x1c00-0x1cff irq 9 at
> > device 31.5 on pci0
> > pcm0: <Yamaha YMF753 AC97 Codec>
> >
> > I have the same behavior I've heard others mention on this list: the
> > sound works fine as long as I wiggle the mouse - presumably this is
> > generating enough interrupts to keep the sound steady.
> >
> > I've tried both Intel ICH and the generic snd_driver and get identical
> > (bad) results.
> >
> > Anyone have this model and get it running properly?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Stuart Quimby
> > Pres. Design Science Toys, Ltd.
> > 172 Pleasant Vale Rd.
> > Tivoli, NY 12583
> > 845.756.4221 (fax)4223
> > stuq@dstoys.com
> > _______________________________________________
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On Fri, Apr 30, 2004 at 11:37:15AM +0200, Patrick Hurrelmann wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am currently using a Dell TrueMobile 1300 (Broadcom) on my Dell
> Latitude D600 Notebook. Thanks to Bill Pauls awesome work it is performs
> very well for daily und "normal" wireless lan usage.
>
> But i want to run some tools, that are only available fo wi-cards.
> Is Prism54-Chipset already supported? I read something that a driver for
> linux exists on www.prism54.org. will it make it to freebsd or is it
> highly unlikely?
>
> Some on the lists posted, that he has replaced his card with an
> ath-based one. Maybe ath is an alternative to wi, but i'd relly prefer
> wi (802.11g or a is a must have).
Please check out:
<http://green.homeunix.org/~green/prism54-driver/pff/>
Note that this may well not compile on 5.2.1-RELEASE, just -CURRENT
(and certainly not -STABLE). Seat belts are not included, but I have
taken great lengths to make this what I belive to be one of the most
inherently stable drivers on FreeBSD.
Currently working are: ad-hoc mode, infrastracture mode, and HostAP
(firmware-based) mode. WEP support works fine, but radiotap and
promiscuous mode are not implemented. I can't find any PCI cards
for sure that have Prism GT/Prism Duette chipsets (note that the
Prism Nitro ones certainly won't work yet, but I don't know how
much work it is to support them). I'm using NetGear WG511 CardBus
cards, but haven't tried doing suspend/resume support yet.
Notably absent are HostAP management features (listing associated
clients, kicking them off, associating with 802.1x) and the
support for TKIP. Still, it's nice having an 802.11 card that can
do over 20Mbit/s and not take all your CPU time to do it.
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Brian Fundakowski Feldman <green@freebsd.org> wrote:
> Please check out:
> <http://green.homeunix.org/~green/prism54-driver/pff/>
> Note that this may well not compile on 5.2.1-RELEASE, just -CURRENT
> (and certainly not -STABLE). Seat belts are not included, but I have
> taken great lengths to make this what I belive to be one of the most
> inherently stable drivers on FreeBSD.
>
> Currently working are: ad-hoc mode, infrastracture mode, and HostAP
> (firmware-based) mode. WEP support works fine, but radiotap and
> promiscuous mode are not implemented. I can't find any PCI cards
> for sure that have Prism GT/Prism Duette chipsets (note that the
> Prism Nitro ones certainly won't work yet, but I don't know how
> much work it is to support them). I'm using NetGear WG511 CardBus
> cards, but haven't tried doing suspend/resume support yet.
>
> Notably absent are HostAP management features (listing associated
> clients, kicking them off, associating with 802.1x) and the
> support for TKIP. Still, it's nice having an 802.11 card that can
> do over 20Mbit/s and not take all your CPU time to do it.
Thats great :)
But first i'll have to get a card based on prism54. I bought a senao prism2,5 mini-pci card.
i'm looking forward to test these drivers, if i'm able to get one of these cards in the near future.
But nevertheless thanks for your work!
Patrick
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Recently I got a 366MHz Thinkpad 600E. It came without
a network card so I bought a Xircom Ethernet II 10/100 CBE2-100.
I put the card in the bottom, slot, plugged the IBM
USB-to-CAT5 cable with the adaptor to my CAT5 cable. Into
my switch, and from 4.8 floppies tried to do do a network
install.
The thing is that /stand/sysinstall only gives me two options:
SLIP and PPP. This I don't have. I got the network screen
and entered my gateway and my DNS server (NS1.THOUGHT.ORG);
still, no-joy. I toggled DCHP from hte options list, I
chose the Default address range (0x0000) and irq 3.
What am I doing wrong? Wrong card? ...
thanks in advance,
gary
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Hello, Gary
FreeBSD 4 doesn't support cardbus and your Xircom card probably uses it. Thus,
you'll have to install FreeBSD 5 if you want to use it. (I had the same
problem with my 3Com NIC).
- Joshua Colp.
On July 27, 2004 09:15 pm, Gary Kline wrote:
> Recently I got a 366MHz Thinkpad 600E. It came without
> a network card so I bought a Xircom Ethernet II 10/100 CBE2-100.
> I put the card in the bottom, slot, plugged the IBM
> USB-to-CAT5 cable with the adaptor to my CAT5 cable. Into
> my switch, and from 4.8 floppies tried to do do a network
> install.
>
> The thing is that /stand/sysinstall only gives me two options:
> SLIP and PPP. This I don't have. I got the network screen
> and entered my gateway and my DNS server (NS1.THOUGHT.ORG);
> still, no-joy. I toggled DCHP from hte options list, I
> chose the Default address range (0x0000) and irq 3.
>
> What am I doing wrong? Wrong card? ...
>
> thanks in advance,
>
> gary
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On Tue, Jul 27, 2004 at 06:52:22PM +0000, Joshua Colp wrote:
> Hello, Gary
>
> FreeBSD 4 doesn't support cardbus and your Xircom card probably uses it. Thus,
> you'll have to install FreeBSD 5 if you want to use it. (I had the same
> problem with my 3Com NIC).
>
> - Joshua Colp.
>
Hm. The last time I did a // tried a floppy install of 5.2, the
istall (on one of my tower servers) hung up. I'll try with
the (hopefully new!) 5.2 floppies; maybe they work by now.
--what PCMCIA cards do work with 4.8? and the Thinkpad, &c.
thanks much!
gary
PS: the card does say "card bus"... .
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thanks again about this tip..
now what happens is that whenever i do this procedure the card stays up
for about 10
- 15 min and then i get the dmesg of:
ath0: device timeout
ath0: ath_reset: unable to reset hardware; hal status 3
ath0: device timeout
ath0: ath_reset: unable to reset hardware; hal status 3
ath0: device timeout
it's not to much fun to do that every 10 minutes or so. is there a refresh
rate that has to be set up somewhere that will take care of that? i looked
at the ifconfig manual but nothing from that sort...
i use either ifconfig or dhclient - they both seem to work..
thanks
> I had this same problem on my laptop with an rl card and the ath as a
> pcmcia card, if I use the rc.conf to setup the ath0 card and not do
> anything with the rl0 then all is fine.
> When you take the xl0 down, you will also need to redefine your default
> gateway route as that seems to get associated with a particular card, so
> what I would have to do is take the rl0 card down with ifconfig, then
> bring the ath0 up and set its ip, netmask, ssid, wepkey and so on then
> modify the default route entry by
> route change default <ipaddress of router>
>
> if that doesnt work then
> route flush
> route add default <ipaddress of router>
>
> you can see the default route by entering
> netstat -rn
> It should be called default and have a G as one of its flags.
>
> Hope that helps
> - Geoff
>
> kalin mintchev wrote:
>> now this is what i do:
>> both cards come up;
>> i turn xl0 down - if i don't and try to associate ath0 i get:
>> ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCAIFADDR): File exists ;
>> with the xl0 down i do:
>> ifconfig ath0 inet 192.168.1.21 netmask 255.255.255.0 ssid apname; ping
>> to
>> 192.168.1.1 works;
>> ping to anywhere outside does NOT work i get:
>> ping: sendto: Network is down
>> !?!?
>> i don't know why..
>>
>> then i bring the xl0 up ping outside works fine with it.
>>
>> help?!
>>
>>
>>
>>>some additional information from the log
>>> kernel: arp: 192.168.1.3 is on ath0 but got reply from
>>
>> 00:0b:5f:32:72:48
>>
>>>on xl0
>>>Jul 24 18:39:50 host kernel: ath0: hardware error; resetting
>>>Jul 24 18:39:50 host kernel: ath0: ath_reset: unable to reset hardware;
>>
>> hal status 3
>>
>>>Jul 24 18:39:53 host kernel: arp: 192.168.1.3 is on ath0 but got reply
>>
>> from 00:0b:5f:32:72:48 on xl0
>>
>>>Jul 24 18:40:23 host last message repeated 4 times
>>>Jul 24 18:42:23 host last message repeated 17 times
>>>output from arp -a returns only:
>>>? (192.168.1.1) at 00:0f:66:8b:60:13 on xl0 [ethernet]
>>>and arp -i ath0 -a returns nothing
>>>both cards have the same irq 11 at boot. i took 11 out of the
>>
>> pccard.conf
>>
>>>but it still comes up as 11
>>>can anybody help please...
>>>thanks
>>>more:
>>>about xl0 from dmesg:
>>>xl0: <3Com 3c556B Fast Etherlink XL> port 0x1800-0x18ff mem
>>>0xe8101000-0xe810107f,0xe8101400-0xe810147f irq 11 at device 3.0 on pci0
>>
>> xl0: chip is in D3 power mode -- setting to D0
>>
>>>xl0: Ethernet address: 00:00:86:43:54:46
>>>miibus0: <MII bus> on xl0
>>>about ath0 from dmesg:
>>>ath0: <Atheros 5212> mem 0x88000000-0x8800ffff irq 11 at device 0.0 on
>>
>> cardbus0
>>
>>>ath0: mac 5.6 phy 4.1 5ghz radio 1.7 2ghz radio 2.3
>>>ath0: 11a rates: 6Mbps 9Mbps 12Mbps 18Mbps 24Mbps 36Mbps 48Mbps 54Mbps
>>
>> ath0: 11b rates: 1Mbps 2Mbps 5.5Mbps 11Mbps
>>
>>>ath0: 11g rates: 1Mbps 2Mbps 5.5Mbps 11Mbps 6Mbps 9Mbps 12Mbps 18Mbps
>>
>> 24Mbps 36Mbps 48Mbps 54Mbps
>>
>>>ath0: turbo rates: 6Mbps 9Mbps 12Mbps 18Mbps 24Mbps 36Mbps 48Mbps 54Mbps
>>
>> ath0: 802.11 address: 00:80:c8:16:eb:4b
>>
>>>>hi all..
>>>>i'm having trouble getting an ath card to work properly
>>>>ifconfig output:
>>>>ath0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
>>>> inet6 fe80::280:c8ff:fe16:eb4b%ath0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4
>>>> ether 00:80:c8:16:eb:4b
>>>> media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect (DS/11Mbps)
>>>> status: associated
>>>> ssid accesspoint 1:accesspoint
>>>> channel 6 authmode OPEN powersavemode OFF powersavesleep 100
>>>> wepmode OFF weptxkey 1
>>>>output of wicontrol:
>>>>C serial number: [ ]
>>>>Station name: [ myhost ]
>>>>SSID for IBSS creation: [ accesspoint ]
>>>>Current netname (SSID): [ accesspoint ]
>>>>Desired netname (SSID): [ accesspoint ]
>>>>Current BSSID: [ 00:0f:66:8b:60:13 ]
>>>>Channel list: [ ffe 0 1510 1515 1 0 0 0 0 2320 23 ]
>>>>IBSS channel: [ 6 ]
>>>>Current channel: [ 6 ]
>>>>Comms quality/signal/noise: [ 0 32 0 ]
>>>>Promiscuous mode: [ Off ]
>>>>Intersil-Prism2 based card: [ 1 ]
>>>>Port type (1=BSS, 3=ad-hoc): [ 1 ]
>>>>MAC address: [ 00:80:c8:16:eb:4b ]
>>>>TX rate (selection): [ 0 ]
>>>>TX rate (actual speed): [ 11 ]
>>>>RTS/CTS handshake threshold: [ 2312 ]
>>>>Create IBSS: [ Off ]
>>>>Access point density: [ 1 ]
>>>>Power Mgmt (1=on, 0=off): [ 0 ]
>>>>Max sleep time: [ 100 ]
>>>>WEP encryption: [ Off ]
>>>>TX encryption key: [ 1 ]
>>>>Encryption keys: [ ][ ][ ][ ]
>>>>it dies see the router because it has status: associated and the
>>
>> channel
>>
>>>>setting is the one off the accesspoint.
>>>>when i turn the nic off and try to ping out i get:
>>>>ping: sendto: Network is down.
>>>>network is not down because if i turn the nic on again i can do the
>>>> ping.
>>>>the router is common syslink one and the wireless setup is the
>>>>basic/default one with no wep yet.
>>>>i should say that the card was able to ping th router when the nic card
>>
>> didn't come up - that happens sometimes on this machine - t20 thinkpad.
>> freebsd 5.2.1
>>
>>>>is it an irq thing between the two cards?
>>>>what else needs to be done in order to get the card working?
>>>>thanks...
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On Wednesday 21 July 2004 01:34 pm, Chris wrote:
> Jesse Guardiani wrote:
> > Chris wrote:
> >>RacerX wrote:
> >>>Dan Langille wrote:
> >>>>Are you following RELENG_5_2 by cvsup'ing and building world? I ask
> >>>>because I've never tried that on -CURRENT. Anyone having good results
> >>>>by upgrading from 5.2.1-RELEASE?
> >>>>
> >>>>Someone mentioned that we are now up to 5.2.1-RELEASE-p9 and I figure
> >>>>I should upgrade. Perhaps tomorrow, while I'm at
> >>>>http://www.linuxsymposium.org/ ;)
> >>>
> >>>Dan -
> >>>
> >>> I use 5.2.1-REL-p9 on both my devices. Have been for months. It runs
> >>>just dandy, and everything I use works.
> >>>
> >>>Some specs -
> >>>On my home PC:
> >>>Athlon 2100
> >>>
> >>>Laptop:
> >>>Dell Inspiron 7500
> >>
> >>Blah - sorry about that. New mail client. Dropped KMail for Thunderbird
> >>and I guess I didn't have all of it configured.
> >
> > How is that working out for you? (Kmail -> Thunderbird)
> >
> > I've always felt that KMail is a superior mail client, especially when it
> > comes to IMAP, but I'd love to be able to use something that runs on
> > Win32 too. How much mail do you manage daily, and do you use IMAP?
>
> KMail is nice - however, for IMAP, KMail does NOT support the use of
> email filters. (Booo) Perhaps in an upcoming release it may.
>
> The Mozilla site has a how-to if you need to "export" your email from
> KMail. Mind you, I use the term export lightly.
>
> It's time consuming but rather straight to the point. I did it, and I am
> very happy I did so. T-Bird does support IMAP (Coo) but I don't use it
> thus far.
>
> The filtering is far better then KMail's (IMHO) and like you, am trying
> to keep my mail clients even in both FreeBSD and Winders.
With IMAP, it makes the most sense to do the mail filtering on the server when
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Folks,
Many months ago I tried a floppy install of 5.3 on my
HP Kayak. It poisoned. A few hours ago today I downloaded
the latest 5.2 floppy set nd booted my ThinkPad 600E.
The boot *did* see my Xircom Ethernet II adaptor, but the
kernel poisoned and rebooted after 15 seconds.
Eventually I will be able to use the Xircom. But for now
it's time to go back to old, STABLE 4.8. Soooo, nutshell,
what cards will work with my ISDL CAT5 cable in 4.8? I'd like
the name and model and any other id regarding the card so
that I get it right next time.
Thanks in advance, guys,
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You should look at HARDWARE.txt for devices that work with freebsd or ask
about specific device, maybe somebody is using it.
I've got TP600E with Xircom RE-100 (with some unresolved issues) under 4.7-R
and 4.10-R
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> Folks,
>
> Many months ago I tried a floppy install of 5.3 on my
> HP Kayak. It poisoned. A few hours ago today I downloaded
> the latest 5.2 floppy set nd booted my ThinkPad 600E.
> The boot *did* see my Xircom Ethernet II adaptor, but the
> kernel poisoned and rebooted after 15 seconds.
>
> Eventually I will be able to use the Xircom. But for now
> it's time to go back to old, STABLE 4.8. Soooo, nutshell,
> what cards will work with my ISDL CAT5 cable in 4.8? I'd like
> the name and model and any other id regarding the card so
> that I get it right next time.
>
> Thanks in advance, guys,
>
> gary
>
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On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 10:01:26AM +0400, Victor Bratsev wrote:
> You should look at HARDWARE.txt for devices that work with freebsd or ask
> about specific device, maybe somebody is using it.
>
> I've got TP600E with Xircom RE-100 (with some unresolved issues) under 4.7-R
> and 4.10-R
>
(Can you describe what your "unresolved issues" are?)... .
Good points. It seems to me that any NIC card that works on
a laptop should work on a Thinkppad. I'm looking at the
3Com type cards and anything that uses the DEC/Intel 21143
chipset/logic. The Linksys cards have workrd flawlessly
on four of my tower systems.
According to the 4.8R HARDWARE.txt list there is:
* Linksys EC2T/PCMPC100/PCM100, PCMLM56, EtherFast 10/100 PC Card,
Combo PCMCIA Ethernet Card (PCMPC100 V2)
If anyone on -mobile has one of these on 4.8 or later
I'll try one of these.
Anybody??
thanks much,
gary
> ----- Original Message -----
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> To: "FreeBSD Mobile Mailing List" <freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 9:16 AM
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>
>
> >
> > Folks,
> >
> > Many months ago I tried a floppy install of 5.3 on my
> > HP Kayak. It poisoned. A few hours ago today I downloaded
> > the latest 5.2 floppy set nd booted my ThinkPad 600E.
> > The boot *did* see my Xircom Ethernet II adaptor, but the
> > kernel poisoned and rebooted after 15 seconds.
> >
> > Eventually I will be able to use the Xircom. But for now
> > it's time to go back to old, STABLE 4.8. Soooo, nutshell,
> > what cards will work with my ISDL CAT5 cable in 4.8? I'd like
> > the name and model and any other id regarding the card so
> > that I get it right next time.
> >
> > Thanks in advance, guys,
> >
> > gary
> >
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I have a Thinkpad 770e (PII 266) with one of the Linksys PCMPC100
cards. It does work well in FreeBSD 4.10-stable. Do realize that you
won't be able to realize true 100MB performance from one of these 16bit
cards. While we're on the subject though, I can't get anything to work
in 5.2.1. I continually get these watchdog timeout errors, be it a
Cardbus card, or a 16bit card like the Linksys. I'm planning on tossing
-current on it this weekend to see if the problem has already been
solved there. If anyone has any thoughts I'd appreciate them.
Thank You,
Cody Baker
cody@spintime.org
330.934.0659
Gary Kline wrote:
>On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 10:01:26AM +0400, Victor Bratsev wrote:
>
>
>>You should look at HARDWARE.txt for devices that work with freebsd or ask
>>about specific device, maybe somebody is using it.
>>
>>I've got TP600E with Xircom RE-100 (with some unresolved issues) under 4.7-R
>>and 4.10-R
>>
>>
>>
>
> (Can you describe what your "unresolved issues" are?)... .
>
> Good points. It seems to me that any NIC card that works on
> a laptop should work on a Thinkppad. I'm looking at the
> 3Com type cards and anything that uses the DEC/Intel 21143
> chipset/logic. The Linksys cards have workrd flawlessly
> on four of my tower systems.
>
> According to the 4.8R HARDWARE.txt list there is:
>
> * Linksys EC2T/PCMPC100/PCM100, PCMLM56, EtherFast 10/100 PC Card,
> Combo PCMCIA Ethernet Card (PCMPC100 V2)
>
> If anyone on -mobile has one of these on 4.8 or later
> I'll try one of these.
>
> Anybody??
>
> thanks much,
>
> gary
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Gary Kline" <kline@tao.thought.org>
>>To: "FreeBSD Mobile Mailing List" <freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG>
>>Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 9:16 AM
>>Subject: Thinkpad 600E and 5.2
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>Folks,
>>>
>>>Many months ago I tried a floppy install of 5.3 on my
>>>HP Kayak. It poisoned. A few hours ago today I downloaded
>>>the latest 5.2 floppy set nd booted my ThinkPad 600E.
>>>The boot *did* see my Xircom Ethernet II adaptor, but the
>>>kernel poisoned and rebooted after 15 seconds.
>>>
>>>Eventually I will be able to use the Xircom. But for now
>>>it's time to go back to old, STABLE 4.8. Soooo, nutshell,
>>>what cards will work with my ISDL CAT5 cable in 4.8? I'd like
>>>the name and model and any other id regarding the card so
>>>that I get it right next time.
>>>
>>>Thanks in advance, guys,
>>>
>>>gary
>>>
>>>--
>>> Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service
>>>
>>>
>>Unix
>>
>>
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On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 01:21:25PM -0400, Cody Baker wrote:
> I have a Thinkpad 770e (PII 266) with one of the Linksys PCMPC100
> cards. It does work well in FreeBSD 4.10-stable. Do realize that you
> won't be able to realize true 100MB performance from one of these 16bit
> cards. While we're on the subject though, I can't get anything to work
> in 5.2.1. I continually get these watchdog timeout errors, be it a
> Cardbus card, or a 16bit card like the Linksys. I'm planning on tossing
> -current on it this weekend to see if the problem has already been
> solved there. If anyone has any thoughts I'd appreciate them.
>
> Thank You,
>
> Cody Baker
> cody@spintime.org
> 330.934.0659
>
Hmm. Well, if the 770e series iis just an "older version"
of the 600E, then it looks like thw Linksys PCMPC100 is
the way to fly. --100Mb performance isn't that important.
I just finally upgraded my nework from 10 -> 10/100 after
years of working at 10. So long as I'll be able to so
-ports cvsups or stable- cvsups, and share data, speed
isn't a factor. I'll have time for a brew:-)
Would you kindly keep me posted re your progress with your
experiments? And how did you manage to get 5.2 installed
of your Thinkpad? CDROM? My 5.2.1 CDROM's are months old
but the install disk traps... (?)
gary
>
> Gary Kline wrote:
>
> >On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 10:01:26AM +0400, Victor Bratsev wrote:
> >
> >
> >>You should look at HARDWARE.txt for devices that work with freebsd or ask
> >>about specific device, maybe somebody is using it.
> >>
> >>I've got TP600E with Xircom RE-100 (with some unresolved issues) under
> >>4.7-R
> >>and 4.10-R
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > (Can you describe what your "unresolved issues" are?)... .
> >
> > Good points. It seems to me that any NIC card that works on
> > a laptop should work on a Thinkppad. I'm looking at the
> > 3Com type cards and anything that uses the DEC/Intel 21143
> > chipset/logic. The Linksys cards have workrd flawlessly
> > on four of my tower systems.
> >
> > According to the 4.8R HARDWARE.txt list there is:
> >
> > * Linksys EC2T/PCMPC100/PCM100, PCMLM56, EtherFast 10/100 PC Card,
> > Combo PCMCIA Ethernet Card (PCMPC100 V2)
> >
> > If anyone on -mobile has one of these on 4.8 or later
> > I'll try one of these.
> >
> > Anybody??
> >
> > thanks much,
> >
> > gary
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "Gary Kline" <kline@tao.thought.org>
> >>To: "FreeBSD Mobile Mailing List" <freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG>
> >>Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 9:16 AM
> >>Subject: Thinkpad 600E and 5.2
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Folks,
> >>>
> >>>Many months ago I tried a floppy install of 5.3 on my
> >>>HP Kayak. It poisoned. A few hours ago today I downloaded
> >>>the latest 5.2 floppy set nd booted my ThinkPad 600E.
> >>>The boot *did* see my Xircom Ethernet II adaptor, but the
> >>>kernel poisoned and rebooted after 15 seconds.
> >>>
> >>>Eventually I will be able to use the Xircom. But for now
> >>>it's time to go back to old, STABLE 4.8. Soooo, nutshell,
> >>>what cards will work with my ISDL CAT5 cable in 4.8? I'd like
> >>>the name and model and any other id regarding the card so
> >>>that I get it right next time.
> >>>
> >>>Thanks in advance, guys,
> >>>
> >>>gary
> >>>
> >>>--
> >>> Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service
> >>>
> >>>
> >>Unix
> >>
> >>
> >>>_______________________________________________
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Installing 5.2.1 was not a problem from CD-ROM, went very smoothly.
Gary, I got a bounce when i tried to reply directly to you.
Gary Kline wrote:
>On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 01:21:25PM -0400, Cody Baker wrote:
>
>
>>I have a Thinkpad 770e (PII 266) with one of the Linksys PCMPC100
>>cards. It does work well in FreeBSD 4.10-stable. Do realize that you
>>won't be able to realize true 100MB performance from one of these 16bit
>>cards. While we're on the subject though, I can't get anything to work
>>in 5.2.1. I continually get these watchdog timeout errors, be it a
>>Cardbus card, or a 16bit card like the Linksys. I'm planning on tossing
>>-current on it this weekend to see if the problem has already been
>>solved there. If anyone has any thoughts I'd appreciate them.
>>
>>Thank You,
>>
>>Cody Baker
>>cody@spintime.org
>>330.934.0659
>>
>>
>>
>
> Hmm. Well, if the 770e series iis just an "older version"
> of the 600E, then it looks like thw Linksys PCMPC100 is
> the way to fly. --100Mb performance isn't that important.
> I just finally upgraded my nework from 10 -> 10/100 after
> years of working at 10. So long as I'll be able to so
> -ports cvsups or stable- cvsups, and share data, speed
> isn't a factor. I'll have time for a brew:-)
>
> Would you kindly keep me posted re your progress with your
> experiments? And how did you manage to get 5.2 installed
> of your Thinkpad? CDROM? My 5.2.1 CDROM's are months old
> but the install disk traps... (?)
>
> gary
>
>
>
>
>>Gary Kline wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 10:01:26AM +0400, Victor Bratsev wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>You should look at HARDWARE.txt for devices that work with freebsd or ask
>>>>about specific device, maybe somebody is using it.
>>>>
>>>>I've got TP600E with Xircom RE-100 (with some unresolved issues) under
>>>>4.7-R
>>>>and 4.10-R
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> (Can you describe what your "unresolved issues" are?)... .
>>>
>>> Good points. It seems to me that any NIC card that works on
>>> a laptop should work on a Thinkppad. I'm looking at the
>>> 3Com type cards and anything that uses the DEC/Intel 21143
>>> chipset/logic. The Linksys cards have workrd flawlessly
>>> on four of my tower systems.
>>>
>>> According to the 4.8R HARDWARE.txt list there is:
>>>
>>> * Linksys EC2T/PCMPC100/PCM100, PCMLM56, EtherFast 10/100 PC Card,
>>> Combo PCMCIA Ethernet Card (PCMPC100 V2)
>>>
>>> If anyone on -mobile has one of these on 4.8 or later
>>> I'll try one of these.
>>>
>>> Anybody??
>>>
>>> thanks much,
>>>
>>> gary
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Gary Kline" <kline@tao.thought.org>
>>>>To: "FreeBSD Mobile Mailing List" <freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG>
>>>>Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 9:16 AM
>>>>Subject: Thinkpad 600E and 5.2
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Folks,
>>>>>
>>>>>Many months ago I tried a floppy install of 5.3 on my
>>>>>HP Kayak. It poisoned. A few hours ago today I downloaded
>>>>>the latest 5.2 floppy set nd booted my ThinkPad 600E.
>>>>>The boot *did* see my Xircom Ethernet II adaptor, but the
>>>>>kernel poisoned and rebooted after 15 seconds.
>>>>>
>>>>>Eventually I will be able to use the Xircom. But for now
>>>>>it's time to go back to old, STABLE 4.8. Soooo, nutshell,
>>>>>what cards will work with my ISDL CAT5 cable in 4.8? I'd like
>>>>>the name and model and any other id regarding the card so
>>>>>that I get it right next time.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks in advance, guys,
>>>>>
>>>>>gary
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>> Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>Unix
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 02:28:53PM -0400, Cody Baker wrote:
> Installing 5.2.1 was not a problem from CD-ROM, went very smoothly.
Maybe it's something with my media. I'll 2-check.
>
> Gary, I got a bounce when i tried to reply directly to you.
>
Can you send the bounce to me at kline@magnesium.net, if you
still have it? I'll check my maillog on NS1.THOUGHT.ORG.
This's happened too ofen.
thans,
gary
>
>
> Gary Kline wrote:
>
> >On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 01:21:25PM -0400, Cody Baker wrote:
> >
> >
> >>I have a Thinkpad 770e (PII 266) with one of the Linksys PCMPC100
> >>cards. It does work well in FreeBSD 4.10-stable. Do realize that you
> >>won't be able to realize true 100MB performance from one of these 16bit
> >>cards. While we're on the subject though, I can't get anything to work
> >>in 5.2.1. I continually get these watchdog timeout errors, be it a
> >>Cardbus card, or a 16bit card like the Linksys. I'm planning on tossing
> >>-current on it this weekend to see if the problem has already been
> >>solved there. If anyone has any thoughts I'd appreciate them.
> >>
> >>Thank You,
> >>
> >>Cody Baker
> >>cody@spintime.org
> >>330.934.0659
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Hmm. Well, if the 770e series iis just an "older version"
> > of the 600E, then it looks like thw Linksys PCMPC100 is
> > the way to fly. --100Mb performance isn't that important.
> > I just finally upgraded my nework from 10 -> 10/100 after
> > years of working at 10. So long as I'll be able to so
> > -ports cvsups or stable- cvsups, and share data, speed
> > isn't a factor. I'll have time for a brew:-)
> >
> > Would you kindly keep me posted re your progress with your
> > experiments? And how did you manage to get 5.2 installed
> > of your Thinkpad? CDROM? My 5.2.1 CDROM's are months old
> > but the install disk traps... (?)
> >
> > gary
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>Gary Kline wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 10:01:26AM +0400, Victor Bratsev wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>You should look at HARDWARE.txt for devices that work with freebsd or
> >>>>ask
> >>>>about specific device, maybe somebody is using it.
> >>>>
> >>>>I've got TP600E with Xircom RE-100 (with some unresolved issues) under
> >>>>4.7-R
> >>>>and 4.10-R
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> (Can you describe what your "unresolved issues" are?)... .
> >>>
> >>> Good points. It seems to me that any NIC card that works on
> >>> a laptop should work on a Thinkppad. I'm looking at the
> >>> 3Com type cards and anything that uses the DEC/Intel 21143
> >>> chipset/logic. The Linksys cards have workrd flawlessly
> >>> on four of my tower systems.
> >>>
> >>> According to the 4.8R HARDWARE.txt list there is:
> >>>
> >>> * Linksys EC2T/PCMPC100/PCM100, PCMLM56, EtherFast 10/100 PC Card,
> >>> Combo PCMCIA Ethernet Card (PCMPC100 V2)
> >>>
> >>> If anyone on -mobile has one of these on 4.8 or later
> >>> I'll try one of these.
> >>>
> >>> Anybody??
> >>>
> >>> thanks much,
> >>>
> >>> gary
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>>From: "Gary Kline" <kline@tao.thought.org>
> >>>>To: "FreeBSD Mobile Mailing List" <freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG>
> >>>>Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 9:16 AM
> >>>>Subject: Thinkpad 600E and 5.2
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Folks,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Many months ago I tried a floppy install of 5.3 on my
> >>>>>HP Kayak. It poisoned. A few hours ago today I downloaded
> >>>>>the latest 5.2 floppy set nd booted my ThinkPad 600E.
> >>>>>The boot *did* see my Xircom Ethernet II adaptor, but the
> >>>>>kernel poisoned and rebooted after 15 seconds.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Eventually I will be able to use the Xircom. But for now
> >>>>>it's time to go back to old, STABLE 4.8. Soooo, nutshell,
> >>>>>what cards will work with my ISDL CAT5 cable in 4.8? I'd like
> >>>>>the name and model and any other id regarding the card so
> >>>>>that I get it right next time.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Thanks in advance, guys,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>gary
> >>>>>
> >>>>>--
> >>>>>Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>Unix
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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I just dug out a TP600E, installed 4.10........
Xircom RE100 - works fine (16 bit card)
Xircom RealPort Cardbus Ethernet 10/100-Modem 56 - no go, expected as
no cardbus support in 4.x
D-Link DFE650 - works fine
3Com Megahertz 3CCFE574BT - works fine
The "E" is a 2645-5JA
Just FYI these also work in a TP600, TP600X
If I use 5.x I need to run OLDCARD but the above cards work there also
regards
Pete
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Gary Kline
> Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 3:07 AM
> To: Victor Bratsev
> Cc: FreeBSD Mobile Mailing List
> Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600E and 5.2
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 10:01:26AM +0400, Victor Bratsev wrote:
> > You should look at HARDWARE.txt for devices that work
> with freebsd or ask
> > about specific device, maybe somebody is using it.
> >
> > I've got TP600E with Xircom RE-100 (with some unresolved
> issues) under 4.7-R
> > and 4.10-R
> >
>
> (Can you describe what your "unresolved issues" are?)... .
>
> Good points. It seems to me that any NIC card that works on
> a laptop should work on a Thinkppad. I'm looking at the
> 3Com type cards and anything that uses the DEC/Intel 21143
> chipset/logic. The Linksys cards have workrd flawlessly
> on four of my tower systems.
>
> According to the 4.8R HARDWARE.txt list there is:
>
> * Linksys EC2T/PCMPC100/PCM100, PCMLM56, EtherFast
> 10/100 PC Card,
> Combo PCMCIA Ethernet Card (PCMPC100 V2)
>
> If anyone on -mobile has one of these on 4.8 or later
> I'll try one of these.
>
> Anybody??
>
> thanks much,
>
> gary
>
>
>
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Gary Kline" <kline@tao.thought.org>
> > To: "FreeBSD Mobile Mailing List" <freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG>
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 9:16 AM
> > Subject: Thinkpad 600E and 5.2
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Folks,
> > >
> > > Many months ago I tried a floppy install of 5.3 on my
> > > HP Kayak. It poisoned. A few hours ago today I downloaded
> > > the latest 5.2 floppy set nd booted my ThinkPad 600E.
> > > The boot *did* see my Xircom Ethernet II adaptor, but the
> > > kernel poisoned and rebooted after 15 seconds.
> > >
> > > Eventually I will be able to use the Xircom. But for now
> > > it's time to go back to old, STABLE 4.8. Soooo, nutshell,
> > > what cards will work with my ISDL CAT5 cable in 4.8? I'd like
> > > the name and model and any other id regarding the card so
> > > that I get it right next time.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance, guys,
> > >
> > > gary
> > >
> > > --
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> I just dug out a TP600E, installed 4.10........
>
> Xircom RE100 - works fine (16 bit card)
> Xircom RealPort Cardbus Ethernet 10/100-Modem 56 - no go, expected as
> no cardbus support in 4.x
> D-Link DFE650 - works fine
> 3Com Megahertz 3CCFE574BT - works fine
>
> The "E" is a 2645-5JA
>
> Just FYI these also work in a TP600, TP600X
>
> If I use 5.x I need to run OLDCARD but the above cards work there also
This surprises me a bit. I have not booted V5 on my 600E for about a
year, but I was running NEWCARD on it at that time. Has something
broken?
I do belive that I did have to add a sysctl to make NEWCARD work,
though, but it supported my CardBus 10/100 Xircom card.
Maybe I should try updating to CURRENT and see how it does.
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> > From: "Peter Sandilands" <peter@sandilands.vu>
> > Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:15:16 +1000
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> > I just dug out a TP600E, installed 4.10........
> >
> > Xircom RE100 - works fine (16 bit card)
> > Xircom RealPort Cardbus Ethernet 10/100-Modem 56 - no go,
> expected as
> > no cardbus support in 4.x
> > D-Link DFE650 - works fine
> > 3Com Megahertz 3CCFE574BT - works fine
> >
> > The "E" is a 2645-5JA
> >
> > Just FYI these also work in a TP600, TP600X
> >
> > If I use 5.x I need to run OLDCARD but the above cards
> work there also
>
> This surprises me a bit. I have not booted V5 on my 600E for about a
> year, but I was running NEWCARD on it at that time. Has something
> broken?
>
> I do belive that I did have to add a sysctl to make NEWCARD work,
> though, but it supported my CardBus 10/100 Xircom card.
I'd be very interested in what the sysctl change was.
I've tried 5.1, 5.2, 5.21 and none of them work out of the box with my
cards and my TPs (yeah I own a collection :-) ).
So I've always just fallen back to using OLDCARD. But I'd like to
switch to NEWCARD.
Maybe I should do some digging??
Pete
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On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 10:15:16AM +1000, Peter Sandilands wrote:
> I just dug out a TP600E, installed 4.10........
>
> Xircom RE100 - works fine (16 bit card)
> Xircom RealPort Cardbus Ethernet 10/100-Modem 56 - no go, expected as
> no cardbus support in 4.x
> D-Link DFE650 - works fine
> 3Com Megahertz 3CCFE574BT - works fine
>
> The "E" is a 2645-5JA
>
> Just FYI these also work in a TP600, TP600X
Outstanding.
>
> If I use 5.x I need to run OLDCARD but the above cards work there also
Can you explain wht OLDCARD is? I'd like one card that I can
transfer, etc....
>
> regards
> Pete
thanks,
gary
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> > If I use 5.x I need to run OLDCARD but the above cards
> work there also
>
> Can you explain wht OLDCARD is? I'd like one card that I can
> transfer, etc....
5.x has a new PCMCIA structure - NEWCARD. This adds Cardbus support
and I think reworked the pcmcia device architecture quite a bit.
OLDCARD is a kernel conf file that replaces the new devices with the
device structure out of 4.x.
Basically you need to recompile the kernel as per the handbook but use
OLDCARD in /usr/src/sys/i386/conf as your starting point.
BTW mail direct to your tao.thought.org address is being bounced as
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I looked a few months back, and found this thread. I'm not sure how well
they relate, but it does make mention of the error I'm getting, and also
a tunable. I haven't the foggiest what I would set that tunable to.
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-mobile/2004-April/003695.html
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-mobile/2004-April/003697.html
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-mobile/2004-April/003698.html
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-mobile/2004-April/003699.html
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-mobile/2004-April/003700.html
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-mobile/2004-April/003706.html
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-mobile/2004-April/003707.html
Peter Sandilands wrote:
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Kevin Oberman [mailto:oberman@es.net]
>>Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 10:24 AM
>>To: peter@sandilands.vu
>>Cc: Gary Kline; Victor Bratsev; FreeBSD Mobile Mailing List
>>Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600E and 5.2
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>From: "Peter Sandilands" <peter@sandilands.vu>
>>>Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:15:16 +1000
>>>Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org
>>>
>>>I just dug out a TP600E, installed 4.10........
>>>
>>>Xircom RE100 - works fine (16 bit card)
>>>Xircom RealPort Cardbus Ethernet 10/100-Modem 56 - no go,
>>>
>>>
>> expected as
>>
>>
>>>no cardbus support in 4.x
>>>D-Link DFE650 - works fine
>>>3Com Megahertz 3CCFE574BT - works fine
>>>
>>>The "E" is a 2645-5JA
>>>
>>>Just FYI these also work in a TP600, TP600X
>>>
>>>If I use 5.x I need to run OLDCARD but the above cards
>>>
>>>
>>work there also
>>
>>This surprises me a bit. I have not booted V5 on my 600E for about a
>>year, but I was running NEWCARD on it at that time. Has something
>>broken?
>>
>>I do belive that I did have to add a sysctl to make NEWCARD work,
>>though, but it supported my CardBus 10/100 Xircom card.
>>
>>
>
>I'd be very interested in what the sysctl change was.
>I've tried 5.1, 5.2, 5.21 and none of them work out of the box with my
>cards and my TPs (yeah I own a collection :-) ).
>So I've always just fallen back to using OLDCARD. But I'd like to
>switch to NEWCARD.
>
>Maybe I should do some digging??
>
>Pete
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On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 11:35:25AM +1000, Peter Sandilands wrote:
> > > If I use 5.x I need to run OLDCARD but the above cards
> > work there also
> >
> > Can you explain wht OLDCARD is? I'd like one card that I can
> > transfer, etc....
>
> 5.x has a new PCMCIA structure - NEWCARD. This adds Cardbus support
> and I think reworked the pcmcia device architecture quite a bit.
> OLDCARD is a kernel conf file that replaces the new devices with the
> device structure out of 4.x.
> Basically you need to recompile the kernel as per the handbook but use
> OLDCARD in /usr/src/sys/i386/conf as your starting point.
In otherworlds it's
# make buildkernel installkernel KERNEL=OLDCARD
or something else? I found the OLDCARD file, no
NEWCARD. (i guess i'll find out if it's generatd...)
>
> BTW mail direct to your tao.thought.org address is being bounced as
> spam
Yeah, I junt messed with /etc/mail on sage/ns1, but thanks
to Cody's forwarding his bounce to me at magnesium, looks
like my /etc/mail/access[.db] here on tao was amiss.
Should be fixed. {I-hope,I-hope}
gary
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> > Basically you need to recompile the kernel as per the
> handbook but use
> > OLDCARD in /usr/src/sys/i386/conf as your starting point.
>
> In otherworlds it's
>
> # make buildkernel installkernel KERNEL=OLDCARD
>
> or something else? I found the OLDCARD file, no
> NEWCARD. (i guess i'll find out if it's generatd...)
Too complicated .......
I just do the kernel build. Copy GENERIC to TEST (say), edit the
options you normally do, Copy OLDCARD to TEST1 and edit to include
TEST (you'll see where in the file)
run /usr/sbin/config TEST1, then cd as directed, do make depend, make
and make install
In ?etc/rc.conf add pccard_enable="YES", reboot and you should be
laughing
> >
> > BTW mail direct to your tao.thought.org address is being
> bounced as
> > spam
>
>
> Yeah, I junt messed with /etc/mail on sage/ns1, but thanks
> to Cody's forwarding his bounce to me at magnesium, looks
> like my /etc/mail/access[.db] here on tao was amiss.
> Should be fixed. {I-hope,I-hope}
see what happens with this mail
Pete
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Sorry for delay.
My unresolved problems are "watchdog timeout; resetting card" and
unreachability of the host from network and network from the host. I don't
understand what it means so I silly trying what is coming in my head:
ifconfig-down/ifconfig-up aren't help as removing/inserting of a card. One
technic is helping - "nmap -P0 <any-host-in-lan>" :)) so as reboot :((
I give it up while I'll have some time to knew about watchdogs and try to
resolve it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Kline" <kline@tao.thought.org>
To: "Victor Bratsev" <vbratsev@apt-telecom.ru>
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Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600E and 5.2
> On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 10:01:26AM +0400, Victor Bratsev wrote:
> > You should look at HARDWARE.txt for devices that work with freebsd or
ask
> > about specific device, maybe somebody is using it.
> >
> > I've got TP600E with Xircom RE-100 (with some unresolved issues) under
4.7-R
> > and 4.10-R
> >
>
> (Can you describe what your "unresolved issues" are?)... .
>
> Good points. It seems to me that any NIC card that works on
> a laptop should work on a Thinkppad. I'm looking at the
> 3Com type cards and anything that uses the DEC/Intel 21143
> chipset/logic. The Linksys cards have workrd flawlessly
> on four of my tower systems.
>
> According to the 4.8R HARDWARE.txt list there is:
>
> * Linksys EC2T/PCMPC100/PCM100, PCMLM56, EtherFast 10/100 PC Card,
> Combo PCMCIA Ethernet Card (PCMPC100 V2)
>
> If anyone on -mobile has one of these on 4.8 or later
> I'll try one of these.
>
> Anybody??
>
> thanks much,
>
> gary
>
>
>
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Gary Kline" <kline@tao.thought.org>
> > To: "FreeBSD Mobile Mailing List" <freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG>
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 9:16 AM
> > Subject: Thinkpad 600E and 5.2
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Folks,
> > >
> > > Many months ago I tried a floppy install of 5.3 on my
> > > HP Kayak. It poisoned. A few hours ago today I downloaded
> > > the latest 5.2 floppy set nd booted my ThinkPad 600E.
> > > The boot *did* see my Xircom Ethernet II adaptor, but the
> > > kernel poisoned and rebooted after 15 seconds.
> > >
> > > Eventually I will be able to use the Xircom. But for now
> > > it's time to go back to old, STABLE 4.8. Soooo, nutshell,
> > > what cards will work with my ISDL CAT5 cable in 4.8? I'd like
> > > the name and model and any other id regarding the card so
> > > that I get it right next time.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance, guys,
> > >
> > > gary
> > >
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Subject: Re: new laptop suggestions - not the usual stuff
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On Sat, 2004-07-24 at 19:27, Michael W. Oliver wrote:
> Ok folks, I know that this comes up from time to time, and I know very
> well the FreeBSD laptop compatibility list (which rocks!), but I think
> this case is different, and here's why.
>
> I am looking for a new laptop that has the following features:
>
> 1) pointing stick in keyboard *THIS IS A MUST*
> 2) AMD64 proc
I purchased an e-machines laptop and had serious cooling problems with
my AMD64 and FreeBSD. It would only run for about an hour before it
shutdown due to heating issues. I was unable to control the fan using
various suggestions from the Questions list. Just be aware that the
BIOS on the laptop my not let you cool things properly.
I loved the machine and it was fast, had a big screen. But I had to
give it to my wife to use (Windows XP). I only run FreeBSD on my
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Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600E and 5.2
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Closer. After I rebuild the kernel with target OLDCARD, and
rebooted (withh Xircom Ethernet II 10/100 inserted, no more
kernel traps.
I added
pccard_ether xe0 start link0
to rc.conf and rebooted. Zero. The cabling is solid.
The defaultrouter="10.0.0.1" entry doesn't seem to
have any effect. I set get the "Setup PC-CARD" message
when coming up. How do I get into this setup? Am I
missing some sysctl cmd? Anything else?
gary
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> From: "Peter Sandilands" <peter@sandilands.vu>
> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:34:30 +1000
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>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kevin Oberman [mailto:oberman@es.net]
> > Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 10:24 AM
> > To: peter@sandilands.vu
> > Cc: Gary Kline; Victor Bratsev; FreeBSD Mobile Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: Thinkpad 600E and 5.2
> >
> >
> > > From: "Peter Sandilands" <peter@sandilands.vu>
> > > Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:15:16 +1000
> > > Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org
> > >
> > > I just dug out a TP600E, installed 4.10........
> > >
> > > Xircom RE100 - works fine (16 bit card)
> > > Xircom RealPort Cardbus Ethernet 10/100-Modem 56 - no go,
> > expected as
> > > no cardbus support in 4.x
> > > D-Link DFE650 - works fine
> > > 3Com Megahertz 3CCFE574BT - works fine
> > >
> > > The "E" is a 2645-5JA
> > >
> > > Just FYI these also work in a TP600, TP600X
> > >
> > > If I use 5.x I need to run OLDCARD but the above cards
> > work there also
> >
> > This surprises me a bit. I have not booted V5 on my 600E for about a
> > year, but I was running NEWCARD on it at that time. Has something
> > broken?
> >
> > I do belive that I did have to add a sysctl to make NEWCARD work,
> > though, but it supported my CardBus 10/100 Xircom card.
>
> I'd be very interested in what the sysctl change was.
> I've tried 5.1, 5.2, 5.21 and none of them work out of the box with my
> cards and my TPs (yeah I own a collection :-) ).
> So I've always just fallen back to using OLDCARD. But I'd like to
> switch to NEWCARD.
>
> Maybe I should do some digging??
I just fired up my 600E. It's running 5.2-BETA from Dec. of last year.
Something my have broken since then, but I get NEWCARD to work with the
following in /boot/loader.conf: hw.cbb.start_memory="0x20000000"
hw.pci.allow_unsupported_io_range="1"
My kernel config is:
device cbb
device pccard
device cardbus
It was not happy with ACPI, so I am running APM.
My Xircom card seems quite happy there.
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Hi all,
I'm Running FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE on a Dell Latitude.
I have a Linksys WPC54G. I've gotten the
sys/compat/ndis stuff and compiled and installed it
according to these instructions:
http://www.freebsddiary.org/ibm-thinkpad-t41.php
I'm currently at the O'Reilly open source conference,
which has a huge wireless network, and tons of users.
the card works fine on their network in my room.
when I'm downstairs in the sessions ( where all the
other people are too ), I get an IP address from the
dhcp server ( on the right network ), but I can't ping
anything, or connect to any machine. I can see
traffic ( via tcpdump ). also wicontrol behaves funny
( strange data output ). should I also update
ifconfig & wicontrol to current? also, it doesn't
let me switch channels using "ifconfig ndis0 channel
8"
My windows drive works fine ( slow, but it works )
with this card.
I've turned all the debugging on via sysctl, and when
I plug the card in, there doesn't appear to be any
errors. and when I do a dhclient, I get "ndis0 link
up".
when I get back up to my room, I'll boot up to FreeBSD
and reply with more detailed info.
anyone have any sugesstions?
thanks,
-freeman
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On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, 11:57-0700, freeman dyson wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm Running FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE on a Dell Latitude.
> I have a Linksys WPC54G. I've gotten the
> sys/compat/ndis stuff and compiled and installed it
> according to these instructions:
> http://www.freebsddiary.org/ibm-thinkpad-t41.php
[...]
> anyone have any sugesstions?
I see no problems with WPC64G and ath(4) on my sony v505bx. Yes, it
is -CURRENT, not sure about 5.2.1-R.
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aah, well, I'd love to use the ath driver, but I can't
get it to recognize it... I can't find the right
"magic" for pccardd.conf .... did you have to tweak
it somehow? or did it "just work" ?
thanks.
--- Maxim Konovalov <maxim@macomnet.ru> wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, 11:57-0700, freeman dyson
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm Running FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE on a Dell
> Latitude.
> > I have a Linksys WPC54G. I've gotten the
> > sys/compat/ndis stuff and compiled and installed
> it
> > according to these instructions:
> > http://www.freebsddiary.org/ibm-thinkpad-t41.php
>
> [...]
> > anyone have any sugesstions?
>
> I see no problems with WPC64G and ath(4) on my sony
> v505bx. Yes, it
> is -CURRENT, not sure about 5.2.1-R.
>
> --
> Maxim Konovalov
>
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On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 11:29:22AM -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote:
> > From: "Peter Sandilands" <peter@sandilands.vu>
> > Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:34:30 +1000
> >
[ ... ]
>
> I just fired up my 600E. It's running 5.2-BETA from Dec. of last year.
> Something my have broken since then, but I get NEWCARD to work with the
> following in /boot/loader.conf: hw.cbb.start_memory="0x20000000"
> hw.pci.allow_unsupported_io_range="1"
>
> My kernel config is:
> device cbb
> device pccard
> device cardbus
>
> It was not happy with ACPI, so I am running APM.
>
> My Xircom card seems quite happy there.
A couple of questons. First, we are prob'ly running a similar
5.2; none of the files in my KERNEL conf directory is older
that early Dec., '03. Where is the NEWCARD file? Should my
Xircom be recognized once I rebuild the GENERIC kernel?
I see that what you have as ^define targets and nodefines in
OLDCARD.
gary
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On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, 12:21-0700, freeman dyson wrote:
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> aah, well, I'd love to use the ath driver, but I can't
> get it to recognize it... I can't find the right
> "magic" for pccardd.conf .... did you have to tweak
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Greetings,
I got DLink DWL-G650 (h/w ver. B4) pc-card recently, which is supposed to
run 802.11g using the atheros drivers. However, I've been trying to get it
to work for the past three days w/o success. Other people on this list
claim to have gotten it working, so any help would be much appreciated.
My setup is: -current (from early July) on a Dell 8600, running a Broadcom
ethernet interface on bfe0, and a kernel recompiled with "device ath" and
"device ath_hal".
When I put the Dlink card in, i get the following:
cardbus0: Resource not specified in CIS: id=10, size=2000
bfe1: < Broadcom ... > irq 11 at device 0.0 on cardbus0
bfe1: BUG! Timeout waiting for bit 00000002 of register 42C to clear
bfe1: MII without any PHY!
device_attach: bfe1 attach returned 6
cbb0: Cardbus activation failed.
Then a few seconds later I get something like
bfe0: BUG! Timeout waiting for bit 00000002 of register 42C
about 6 times, and then the computer freezes. The above line is not the
exact output, since after the computer freezes, I can't copy the text
(clearly..).
Now, the above is strange because the card should be picked up by an atheros
driver, not the bfe driver (note that bfe0 is my internal ethernet card, and
the above is trying to assign the pccard to bfe1). I've tryed putting in
hw.pccard.debug=1 and cis_debug=1, however the computer freezes before I get
any output from those.
I've read in other posts on the lists that the "Resource not specified" line
is some sort of resource management issue, but no one has specified how to
fix it. And that doesn't seem to address the other issue that the card
isn't recognized by the atheros driver.
So... I'm at a loss as to what to do.
Any help would be much appreciated.
regards,
Mike
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> On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 11:29:22AM -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote:
> > > From: "Peter Sandilands" <peter@sandilands.vu>
> > > Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:34:30 +1000
> > >
> [ ... ]
>
> >
> > I just fired up my 600E. It's running 5.2-BETA from Dec. of last year.
> > Something my have broken since then, but I get NEWCARD to work with the
> > following in /boot/loader.conf: hw.cbb.start_memory="0x20000000"
> > hw.pci.allow_unsupported_io_range="1"
> >
> > My kernel config is:
> > device cbb
> > device pccard
> > device cardbus
> >
> > It was not happy with ACPI, so I am running APM.
> >
> > My Xircom card seems quite happy there.
>
>
> A couple of questons. First, we are prob'ly running a similar
> 5.2; none of the files in my KERNEL conf directory is older
> that early Dec., '03. Where is the NEWCARD file? Should my
> Xircom be recognized once I rebuild the GENERIC kernel?
> I see that what you have as ^define targets and nodefines in
> OLDCARD.
There is no "NEWCARD" file. GENERIC is NEWCARD. The config lines I
included result in a NEWCARD kernel. OLDCARD uses pcic and card while
GENERIC uses cbb, cardbus, and pccard. The dmesg should contain entries
for 2 each cbb, cardbus, and pccard devices. The actual Ethernet device
will be way down the dmesg from the other stuff.
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On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 12:57:39PM -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote:
> > Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:32:15 -0700
> > From: Gary Kline <kline@tao.thought.org>
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 11:29:22AM -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote:
> > > > From: "Peter Sandilands" <peter@sandilands.vu>
> > > > Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:34:30 +1000
> > > >
> > [ ... ]
> >
> > >
> > > I just fired up my 600E. It's running 5.2-BETA from Dec. of last year.
> > > Something my have broken since then, but I get NEWCARD to work with the
> > > following in /boot/loader.conf: hw.cbb.start_memory="0x20000000"
> > > hw.pci.allow_unsupported_io_range="1"
> > >
> > > My kernel config is:
> > > device cbb
> > > device pccard
> > > device cardbus
> > >
> > > It was not happy with ACPI, so I am running APM.
> > >
> > > My Xircom card seems quite happy there.
> >
> >
> > A couple of questons. First, we are prob'ly running a similar
> > 5.2; none of the files in my KERNEL conf directory is older
> > that early Dec., '03. Where is the NEWCARD file? Should my
> > Xircom be recognized once I rebuild the GENERIC kernel?
> > I see that what you have as ^define targets and nodefines in
> > OLDCARD.
>
> There is no "NEWCARD" file. GENERIC is NEWCARD. The config lines I
> included result in a NEWCARD kernel. OLDCARD uses pcic and card while
> GENERIC uses cbb, cardbus, and pccard. The dmesg should contain entries
> for 2 each cbb, cardbus, and pccard devices. The actual Ethernet device
> will be way down the dmesg from the other stuff.
Thanks for clarifying. I'm about 45 minutes into a rebuild
with KERCONF=GENERIC. I should know fairly soon; will post
further comments|queries in a few hours.
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when did lbl become es.net? i worked at llnl for a few years
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> On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 12:57:39PM -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote:
> > > Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:32:15 -0700
> > > From: Gary Kline <kline@tao.thought.org>
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 11:29:22AM -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote:
> > > > > From: "Peter Sandilands" <peter@sandilands.vu>
> > > > > Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:34:30 +1000
> > > > >
> > > [ ... ]
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I just fired up my 600E. It's running 5.2-BETA from Dec. of last year.
> > > > Something my have broken since then, but I get NEWCARD to work with the
> > > > following in /boot/loader.conf: hw.cbb.start_memory="0x20000000"
> > > > hw.pci.allow_unsupported_io_range="1"
> > > >
> > > > My kernel config is:
> > > > device cbb
> > > > device pccard
> > > > device cardbus
> > > >
> > > > It was not happy with ACPI, so I am running APM.
> > > >
> > > > My Xircom card seems quite happy there.
> > >
> > >
> > > A couple of questons. First, we are prob'ly running a similar
> > > 5.2; none of the files in my KERNEL conf directory is older
> > > that early Dec., '03. Where is the NEWCARD file? Should my
> > > Xircom be recognized once I rebuild the GENERIC kernel?
> > > I see that what you have as ^define targets and nodefines in
> > > OLDCARD.
> >
> > There is no "NEWCARD" file. GENERIC is NEWCARD. The config lines I
> > included result in a NEWCARD kernel. OLDCARD uses pcic and card while
> > GENERIC uses cbb, cardbus, and pccard. The dmesg should contain entries
> > for 2 each cbb, cardbus, and pccard devices. The actual Ethernet device
> > will be way down the dmesg from the other stuff.
>
> Thanks for clarifying. I'm about 45 minutes into a rebuild
> with KERCONF=GENERIC. I should know fairly soon; will post
> further comments|queries in a few hours.
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> <PERSONAL>
> when did lbl become es.net? i worked at llnl for a few years
> and thought all the labs were .gov.
> </PERSONAL>
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>>
>> I am looking for a new laptop that has the following features:
>>
>> 1) pointing stick in keyboard *THIS IS A MUST*
These are sadly becoming harder to find, despite their obvious superiority
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> > <PERSONAL>
> > when did lbl become es.net? i worked at llnl for a few years
> > and thought all the labs were .gov.
> > </PERSONAL>
>
> LBL won the contract to operate ESnet about 8 years ago. Prior to that
> ESnet was operated as a part of the NERSC supercomputing facility at
> LLNL. ESnet is the wide area network that provides connectivity to DOE
> laboratories and contract facilities around the country. We act as an
> NSP for LLNL, LBNL, LANL, Sandia, Brookhaven, Fermilab, Argonne, and
> about 40 other sites and maintain a 10 Gbps trans-continental backbone
> to carry the traffic between DOE sites and US and international research
> sites such as CERN.
Oh, yumm... .
> We also provide commercial connectivity for our
> sites and peer with over 100 commercial Internet providers such as
> UUnet, Sprint, Savvis and AT&T.
>
> While we are currently located at LBNL (and I hope to stay there),
> except for administrative support, we LBNL is just another site on the
> network. So my work address is es.net, but I can also be reached at
> KOberman@lbl.gov. The legal name of LBNL is the rather verbose one in my
> .sig file, but lab management prefers "Berkeley Lab", so I stick it in
> there, too.
Understand. Bekeley Lab has a nicer ring to it... (Well,
that depends, I 'spose.)
>
> I was at LLNL for 23 years before moving to LBNL, mostly in the
> Engineering Department where my last job was managing their internal
> networks. Might I ask when and where you worked at LLNL?
I was at Livermore as an intern from 1980-83. Worked for
Lowell Wood on the S1 supercomputer (Navy). Electrical
Engineering was a 2nd career and I was in my mid-30's when
Lowell had his 40th birthday party. Edw Teller was there
that day. ANyway, I worked on porting Stu Feldman's
"Portable" Fortran Compiler from (*don't laugh*) the project's
11/40 to the S1 architecture! --There's more to the story... .
LLL was the best place I've ever worked; there was a rif in
'83 that made me look elsewhere, but I managed to spent the
rest of my career in HPC. ...What a time it's been.
But _anyway_:
Re ThinkPad 600E, I enclose the followng console.log.
Why isn't pccard_ether being recognized? What ifconfig
line am I missing? or other config line?
--more below--
Jul 29 18:17:33 talk kernel: Jul 29 18:17:33 talk shutdown: power-down by root:
Jul 29 18:17:35 talk kernel: pccard_ether: not found
Jul 29 18:17:35 talk kernel: Stopping inetd.
Jul 29 18:17:35 talk kernel: Shutting down daemon processes:
Jul 29 18:17:35 talk kernel: .
Jul 29 18:17:35 talk kernel: Stopping cron.
Jul 29 18:17:35 talk kernel: Shutting down local daemons:
Jul 29 18:17:35 talk kernel: .
Jul 29 18:17:35 talk kernel: Writing entropy file:
Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: Loading configuration files.
Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: pccard_ether: not found
Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: Entropy harvesting:
Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: interrupts
Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: ethernet
Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: point_to_point
Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: .
Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: swapon: adding /dev/ad0s2b as swap device
Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: Starting file system checks:
Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: /dev/ad0s1a: FILE SYSTEM CLEAN; SKIPPING CHECKS
Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: /dev/ad0s1a: clean, 92235 free (987 frags, 11406 blocks, 0.8% fragmentation)
Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: /dev/ad0s3d: FILE SYSTEM CLEAN; SKIPPING CHECKS
Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: /dev/ad0s3d: clean, 494150 free (22 frags, 61766 blocks, 0.0% fragmentation)
Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: /dev/ad0s4d: FILE SYSTEM CLEAN; SKIPPING CHECKS
Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: /dev/ad0s4d: clean, 3481501 free (75645 frags, 425732 blocks, 1.9% fragmentation)
Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: Setting hostname: talk.thought.org.
Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: lo0: flags=8049<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 16384
Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000
Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2
Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: pccard_ether: not found
Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: route:
Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: writing to routing socket
Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: :
Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: Network is unreachable
Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: add net default: gateway 10.0.0.1: Network is unreachable
Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: Additional routing options:
Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: .
Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: hw.bus.devctl_disable:
Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: 0
Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: ->
Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: 1
Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel:
Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: Mounting NFS file systems:
Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: .
Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: Starting syslogd.
Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: Jul 29 18:19:14 talk syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel
Jul 29 18:19:15 talk kernel: Starting rpcbind.
Jul 29 18:19:16 talk kernel: Turning on accounting.
Jul 29 18:19:16 talk kernel: Jul 29 18:19:16 talk kernel: Accounting enabled
Jul 29 18:19:16 talk kernel: ELF ldconfig path: /lib /usr/lib /usr/lib/compat /usr/X11R6/lib /usr/local/lib
Jul 29 18:19:16 talk kernel: a.out ldconfig path: /usr/lib/aout /usr/lib/compat/aout /usr/X11R6/lib/aout
Jul 29 18:19:17 talk kernel: Starting usbd.
Jul 29 18:19:17 talk kernel: Starting local daemons:
Jul 29 18:19:17 talk kernel: .
Jul 29 18:19:17 talk kernel: Starting lpd.
Jul 29 18:19:17 talk kernel: Updating motd
Jul 29 18:19:17 talk kernel: .
Jul 29 18:19:18 talk kernel: /etc/rc: WARNING: /etc/ntp.conf is not readable.
Jul 29 18:19:18 talk kernel: Starting rwhod.
Jul 29 18:19:18 talk kernel: Configuring syscons:
Jul 29 18:19:18 talk kernel: blanktime
Jul 29 18:19:18 talk kernel: .
Jul 29 18:19:18 talk kernel: Starting sshd.
Jul 29 18:19:19 talk kernel: Starting sendmail.
Jul 29 18:19:20 talk kernel: Initial i386 initialization:
Jul 29 18:19:20 talk kernel: .
Jul 29 18:19:20 talk kernel: Additional ABI support:
Jul 29 18:19:20 talk kernel: linux
Jul 29 18:19:30 talk kernel: .
Jul 29 18:19:30 talk kernel: Starting cron.
Jul 29 18:19:31 talk kernel: Local package initialization:
Jul 29 18:19:31 talk kernel: .
Jul 29 18:19:31 talk kernel: Additional TCP options:
Jul 29 18:19:31 talk kernel: .
Jul 29 18:19:31 talk kernel: pccard_ether: not found
Jul 29 18:19:31 talk kernel: Starting moused:
Jul 29 18:19:32 talk kernel: .
Jul 29 18:19:32 talk kernel: Starting inetd.
Jul 29 18:19:32 talk kernel: Starting background file system checks in 60 seconds.
Jul 29 18:19:32 talk kernel:
Jul 29 18:19:33 talk kernel: Thu Jul 29 18:19:32 GMT 2004
Jul 29 18:19:47 talk kernel: Jul 29 18:19:47 talk login: ROOT LOGIN (root) ON ttyv0
ifconfig -a shows that the 600E knows there is a 100 card there.
In rc.conf I've got
pccard_ether xe0 start link0
or
pccard_ether dc0 start link0
I *had* and deleted:
ifconfig_[xe|dc]0="DHCP"
hostname="talk.thought.org"
defaultrouter="10.0.0.1"
This seems to cause havoc; I'm guessing there is some other
way f telling the kernel to exec dhclient.
gary
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> > On Sat, 2004-07-24 at 19:27, Michael W. Oliver wrote:
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> >>
> >> I am looking for a new laptop that has the following features:
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> >> 1) pointing stick in keyboard *THIS IS A MUST*
>
> These are sadly becoming harder to find, despite their obvious superiority
> to the "touch pad". I was very put off when Toshiba dropped their
> Satellite Pro line that featured this! I'll have to hang on to my current
> laptop forever.
IBM are committed to the stick I think.
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>>> On Sat, 2004-07-24 at 19:27, Michael W. Oliver wrote:
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>>>> well the FreeBSD laptop compatibility list (which rocks!), but I think
>>>> this case is different, and here's why.
>>>>
>>>> I am looking for a new laptop that has the following features:
>>>>
>>>> 1) pointing stick in keyboard *THIS IS A MUST*
>>
>> These are sadly becoming harder to find, despite their obvious superiority
>> to the "touch pad". I was very put off when Toshiba dropped their
>> Satellite Pro line that featured this! I'll have to hang on to my current
>> laptop forever.
>
> IBM are committed to the stick I think.
Yeah but the keyboards on thinkpads suck. All springy and stiff :)
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> On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, Wesley Morgan wrote:
>
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>>On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, Ray Seals wrote:
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>>
>>>On Sat, 2004-07-24 at 19:27, Michael W. Oliver wrote:
>>>
>>>>Ok folks, I know that this comes up from time to time, and I know very
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>>>>this case is different, and here's why.
>>>>
>>>>I am looking for a new laptop that has the following features:
>>>>
>>>>1) pointing stick in keyboard *THIS IS A MUST*
>>
>>These are sadly becoming harder to find, despite their obvious superiority
>>to the "touch pad". I was very put off when Toshiba dropped their
>>Satellite Pro line that featured this! I'll have to hang on to my current
>>laptop forever.
>
>
> IBM are committed to the stick I think.
>
This is not the case. Some have already both.
This is how it started with Toshiba too.
I found a Fujitsu with a stick. But only the smallest in production
still has it.
Erich
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Thanks to you all for your suggestions. Unfortunately, I think I am
going to have to give up on the AMD64 piece for now and just settle for
everything else in a HP NC8000. My wife has a NC3000 from work and it
is a very nice machine, so I am ok with the NC8000.
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many years, and I would certainly get a ThinkPad instead of the NC8000
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> Thanks to you all for your suggestions. Unfortunately, I think I am
> going to have to give up on the AMD64 piece for now and just settle for
> everything else in a HP NC8000. My wife has a NC3000 from work and it
> is a very nice machine, so I am ok with the NC8000.
>
> P.S. - my desire for the pointing stick is born of using ThinkPads for
> many years, and I would certainly get a ThinkPad instead of the NC8000
> if they were anywhere close to one another in price...
I have a dell latitude d600, which has the stick (plus the standard pointing
system) and works very well with FreeBSD (display 14.1 1400x1050, low weight,
acpi working, wifi supportted, gigabit ethernet too etc etc...)
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> >
> >>anyone have any sugesstions?
> >
> >
> > I see no problems with WPC64G and ath(4) on my sony v505bx. Yes, it
> > is -CURRENT, not sure about 5.2.1-R.
> >
> I guess it was a typo, 'cause the thread is about the WPC54G ...
> However, I was wondering wether it's really supported by ath(4) in -CURRENT,
> because the WPC54G isn't atheros based. It has some strange Broadcom Chipset,
> which is AFAIK not supported by ath.
> Also the online manpage of ath(4) is not mentioning the LinkSys WPC54G. I have
> FreeBSD 5.2.1 running and it's definitly not supported by ath(4).
Yes, that was supposed to be WPC54AG, sorry for the confusion :-|
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>>I have a Linksys WPC54G. I've gotten the
>
>>anyone have any sugesstions?
>
>
> I see no problems with WPC64G and ath(4) on my sony v505bx. Yes, it
> is -CURRENT, not sure about 5.2.1-R.
>
I guess it was a typo, 'cause the thread is about the WPC54G ...
However, I was wondering wether it's really supported by ath(4) in
-CURRENT, because the WPC54G isn't atheros based. It has some strange
Broadcom Chipset, which is AFAIK not supported by ath.
Also the online manpage of ath(4) is not mentioning the LinkSys WPC54G.
I have FreeBSD 5.2.1 running and it's definitly not supported by ath(4).
regards,
Marian
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Gianmarco wrote on Fri, Jul 30, 2004 at 08:01:36AM +0200:
> On Friday 30 July 2004 06:26, Michael W. Oliver wrote:
> > Thanks to you all for your suggestions. Unfortunately, I think I am
> > going to have to give up on the AMD64 piece for now and just settle for
> > everything else in a HP NC8000. My wife has a NC3000 from work and it
> > is a very nice machine, so I am ok with the NC8000.
> >
> > P.S. - my desire for the pointing stick is born of using ThinkPads for
> > many years, and I would certainly get a ThinkPad instead of the NC8000
> > if they were anywhere close to one another in price...
>
> I have a dell latitude d600, which has the stick (plus the standard pointing
> system) and works very well with FreeBSD (display 14.1 1400x1050, low weight,
> acpi working, wifi supportted, gigabit ethernet too etc etc...)
Which wireless option do you have?
And how the hell do I choose the big display on that mess of a
website? Sorry :-)
Martin
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> On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, Dan Langille wrote:
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> > On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, Wesley Morgan wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, Ray Seals wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Sat, 2004-07-24 at 19:27, Michael W. Oliver wrote:
> >>>> Ok folks, I know that this comes up from time to time, and I know very
> >>>> well the FreeBSD laptop compatibility list (which rocks!), but I think
> >>>> this case is different, and here's why.
> >>>>
> >>>> I am looking for a new laptop that has the following features:
> >>>>
> >>>> 1) pointing stick in keyboard *THIS IS A MUST*
> >>
> >> These are sadly becoming harder to find, despite their obvious superiority
> >> to the "touch pad". I was very put off when Toshiba dropped their
> >> Satellite Pro line that featured this! I'll have to hang on to my current
> >> laptop forever.
> >
> > IBM are committed to the stick I think.
>
> Yeah but the keyboards on thinkpads suck. All springy and stiff :)
Odd. We have always used ThinkPads in my organization and the keyboard
is the one reason IBM has won the last two times we have evaluated
laptops on the basis of their excellent keyboards.
I did a bit or research into them and IBM actually did human testing to
determine the what trained typists liked in terms of force required,
length of key travel and tactile feedback and designed their keyboards
accordingly. I have loved mine from the first time I used it, though I
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My only issue with ThinkPads is the price and I've always found them to
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A happy 560, 600E and T30 user.
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This didn't work for me, infact it seemed to make it just flat out not
recognize the cards. I went ahead and put -current on it and it works
wonderfully now.
Thank you,
Cody Baker
>
>I just fired up my 600E. It's running 5.2-BETA from Dec. of last year.
>Something my have broken since then, but I get NEWCARD to work with the
>following in /boot/loader.conf: hw.cbb.start_memory="0x20000000"
>hw.pci.allow_unsupported_io_range="1"
>
>My kernel config is:
>device cbb
>device pccard
>device cardbus
>
>It was not happy with ACPI, so I am running APM.
>
>My Xircom card seems quite happy there.
>
>
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On Fri, Jul 30, 2004 at 01:53:18PM -0400, Cody Baker wrote:
> This didn't work for me, infact it seemed to make it just flat out not
> recognize the cards. I went ahead and put -current on it and it works
> wonderfully now.
>
Well, at this end, the new configuration still doesn't work.
The kernel recognizes the Xircom as a "dc0"; it says the card
is a 100baseTX. I've check the cables: good. I've checked
everyything else I can think of. No joy.
What knd of card do you have?
How did you get -current on your 600E without a network link?
CDn burner maybe?
thanks,
gary
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Kevin Oberman wrote:
>> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 21:39:16 -0400 (EDT)
>> From: Wesley Morgan <morganw@chemikals.org>
>> Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org
>>
>> On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, Dan Langille wrote:
>>
>> > On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, Wesley Morgan wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, Ray Seals wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On Sat, 2004-07-24 at 19:27, Michael W. Oliver wrote:
>> >>>> Ok folks, I know that this comes up from time to time, and I know
>> >>>> very well the FreeBSD laptop compatibility list (which rocks!), but
>> >>>> I think this case is different, and here's why.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I am looking for a new laptop that has the following features:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 1) pointing stick in keyboard *THIS IS A MUST*
>> >>
>> >> These are sadly becoming harder to find, despite their obvious
>> >> superiority to the "touch pad". I was very put off when Toshiba
>> >> dropped their Satellite Pro line that featured this! I'll have to hang
>> >> on to my current laptop forever.
>> >
>> > IBM are committed to the stick I think.
>>
>> Yeah but the keyboards on thinkpads suck. All springy and stiff :)
>
> Odd. We have always used ThinkPads in my organization and the keyboard
> is the one reason IBM has won the last two times we have evaluated
> laptops on the basis of their excellent keyboards.
>
> I did a bit or research into them and IBM actually did human testing to
> determine the what trained typists liked in terms of force required,
> length of key travel and tactile feedback and designed their keyboards
> accordingly. I have loved mine from the first time I used it, though I
> won't claim to be a trained typist.
>
> My only issue with ThinkPads is the price and I've always found them to
> be worth it.
>
> A happy 560, 600E and T30 user.
:) I'm fairly certain Mr. Morgan was attempting to utilize the fine art
of sarcasm. It's hard to tell from an email though. I almost wrote a
similar rebuttal before I saw the smiley at the end of his comment.
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aah, thanks, well, the card works fine with noone ( or
not many ) other people on the net... but when it gets
congested... well, I can't get any pings...
no worries, the conference is over...
--- Maxim Konovalov <maxim@macomnet.ru> wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Jul 2004, 09:12+0200, Marian Hettwer
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Maxim Konovalov wrote:
> > > On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, 11:57-0700, freeman dyson
> wrote:
> > >>I'm Running FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE on a Dell
> Latitude.
> > >>I have a Linksys WPC54G. I've gotten the
> > >
> > >>anyone have any sugesstions?
> > >
> > >
> > > I see no problems with WPC64G and ath(4) on my
> sony v505bx. Yes, it
> > > is -CURRENT, not sure about 5.2.1-R.
> > >
> > I guess it was a typo, 'cause the thread is about
> the WPC54G ...
> > However, I was wondering wether it's really
> supported by ath(4) in -CURRENT,
> > because the WPC54G isn't atheros based. It has
> some strange Broadcom Chipset,
> > which is AFAIK not supported by ath.
> > Also the online manpage of ath(4) is not
> mentioning the LinkSys WPC54G. I have
> > FreeBSD 5.2.1 running and it's definitly not
> supported by ath(4).
>
> Yes, that was supposed to be WPC54AG, sorry for the
> confusion :-|
>
> --
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Hello, all!
Today I have bought myself new Proxim Orinoco Gold b/g card
to replace my old Lucent Orinoco b one.
New card is working fine with the ath driver, but...
Signal strength and radio perfomance are very nasty.
Where my old card gave me signal strength of 106
new one gives only 51. (that is 5m away from AP)
(same AP, same channels, same everything)
It is not working even in next room to the AP.
What can be the problem, or just Proxim got lame engineers?
(behavior is same under "the Other OS"
Transmit power is set to "Maximum" in supplied
configuration utility.
Cheers,
AL.
p.s. pls CC, so I will not loose your reply.
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On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 10:08:44AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
> Closer. After I rebuild the kernel with target OLDCARD, and
> rebooted (withh Xircom Ethernet II 10/100 inserted, no more
> kernel traps.
>
> I added
>
> pccard_ether xe0 start link0
>
> to rc.conf and rebooted. Zero. The cabling is solid.
> The defaultrouter="10.0.0.1" entry doesn't seem to
> have any effect. I set get the "Setup PC-CARD" message
> when coming up. How do I get into this setup? Am I
> missing some sysctl cmd? Anything else?
>
> gary
Hi Gary,
Could you post your full /etc/rc.conf and /var/run/dmesg.boot? The
hardware you've got there should work, so I'm guessing this is just a
configuration issue.
For reference, the only stuff I have in my rc.conf to enable xe0 on my
TP380D is:
ifconfig_xe0="DHCP"
pccard_enable="YES"
If you're not using DHCP, obviously put something else in the ifconfig_xe0
line. Using pccard_enable is important - you're running an OLDCARD kernel
so you need to make sure that pccardd is started to attach the card.
Cheers,
Scott
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On Sat, Jul 31, 2004 at 05:39:21PM +0100, Scott Mitchell wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 10:08:44AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
> > Closer. After I rebuild the kernel with target OLDCARD, and
> > rebooted (withh Xircom Ethernet II 10/100 inserted, no more
> > kernel traps.
> >
> > I added
> >
> > pccard_ether xe0 start link0
> >
> > to rc.conf and rebooted. Zero. The cabling is solid.
> > The defaultrouter="10.0.0.1" entry doesn't seem to
> > have any effect. I set get the "Setup PC-CARD" message
> > when coming up. How do I get into this setup? Am I
> > missing some sysctl cmd? Anything else?
> >
> > gary
>
> Hi Gary,
>
> Could you post your full /etc/rc.conf and /var/run/dmesg.boot? The
> hardware you've got there should work, so I'm guessing this is just a
> configuration issue.
>
> For reference, the only stuff I have in my rc.conf to enable xe0 on my
> TP380D is:
> ifconfig_xe0="DHCP"
> pccard_enable="YES"
>
> If you're not using DHCP, obviously put something else in the ifconfig_xe0
> line. Using pccard_enable is important - you're running an OLDCARD kernel
> so you need to make sure that pccardd is started to attach the card.
>
Hm. I'm running GENERIC again, after running with the OLDCARD
configuration failed. The system does recognize my Xircom,
but as "dc0" But when I boot with ifconfig_dc0="DHCP" I
run into 'watchdog timeout' errs (prob'ly from dhclient).
My card is a Xircom Ethernet II 10/100 CBE2-100. If your
card is identical, I'll go back to the OLDCARD conf and
try again.
thanks much,
gary
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> On Sat, Jul 31, 2004 at 05:39:21PM +0100, Scott Mitchell wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 10:08:44AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
> > > Closer. After I rebuild the kernel with target OLDCARD, and
> > > rebooted (withh Xircom Ethernet II 10/100 inserted, no more
> > > kernel traps.
> > >
> > > I added
> > >
> > > pccard_ether xe0 start link0
> > >
> > > to rc.conf and rebooted. Zero. The cabling is solid.
> > > The defaultrouter="10.0.0.1" entry doesn't seem to
> > > have any effect. I set get the "Setup PC-CARD" message
> > > when coming up. How do I get into this setup? Am I
> > > missing some sysctl cmd? Anything else?
> > >
> > > gary
> >
> > Hi Gary,
> >
> > Could you post your full /etc/rc.conf and /var/run/dmesg.boot? The
> > hardware you've got there should work, so I'm guessing this is just a
> > configuration issue.
> >
> > For reference, the only stuff I have in my rc.conf to enable xe0 on my
> > TP380D is:
> > ifconfig_xe0="DHCP"
> > pccard_enable="YES"
> >
> > If you're not using DHCP, obviously put something else in the ifconfig_xe0
> > line. Using pccard_enable is important - you're running an OLDCARD kernel
> > so you need to make sure that pccardd is started to attach the card.
> >
>
> Hm. I'm running GENERIC again, after running with the OLDCARD
> configuration failed. The system does recognize my Xircom,
> but as "dc0" But when I boot with ifconfig_dc0="DHCP" I
> run into 'watchdog timeout' errs (prob'ly from dhclient).
>
> My card is a Xircom Ethernet II 10/100 CBE2-100. If your
> card is identical, I'll go back to the OLDCARD conf and
> try again.
Don't bother trying OLDCARD. The CBE2-100 is a CardBus card and will not
work with OLDCARD at all. I have almost the same card, the
RBEM100-56G. This is the Realport version that also includes a 56K
Global modem. This card does use the dc(4) driver.
--
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lesha@intercaf.ru writes:
: Hello, all!
:
:
: Today I have bought myself new Proxim Orinoco Gold b/g card
: to replace my old Lucent Orinoco b one.
:
: New card is working fine with the ath driver, but...
: Signal strength and radio perfomance are very nasty.
:
: Where my old card gave me signal strength of 106
: new one gives only 51. (that is 5m away from AP)
: (same AP, same channels, same everything)
:
: It is not working even in next room to the AP.
:
: What can be the problem, or just Proxim got lame engineers?
Lame antenna. Also, the signal strength, as reported by FreeBSD, can
be radically different when the RF levels are exactly the same.
Different firmware has different formulas to convert the values that
are reported. Also, different antennas have different gains.
Warner