From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 04:04:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0859116A4CF; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 04:04:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp01.syd.iprimus.net.au (smtp01.syd.iprimus.net.au [210.50.30.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA94343D2F; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 04:04:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tim@robbins.dropbear.id.au) Received: from robbins.dropbear.id.au (203.134.132.68) by smtp01.syd.iprimus.net.au (7.0.028) id 412634F300072396; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 14:04:55 +1000 Received: by robbins.dropbear.id.au (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 26B37420D; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 14:04:53 +1000 (EST) Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 14:04:53 +1000 From: Tim Robbins To: "Conrad J. Sabatier" Message-ID: <20040822040453.GA11878@cat.robbins.dropbear.id.au> References: <1093108393.4202.8.camel@funshine.carebears.net> <20040821133701.6ecf9f04@dolphin.local.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040821133701.6ecf9f04@dolphin.local.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Fwd: sound in CURRENT] X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 04:04:59 -0000 On Sat, Aug 21, 2004 at 01:37:01PM -0500, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: > On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 19:13:13 +0200 > Christer Solskogen wrote: > > > -----Forwarded Message----- > > > From: Christer Solskogen > > > To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org > > > Subject: sound in CURRENT > > > Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 16:26:03 +0200 > > > > > > FreeBSD funshine.carebears.net 5.3-BETA1 FreeBSD 5.3-BETA1 #1: Sat > > > Aug 21 15:51:04 CEST 2004 > > > root@funshine.carebears.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FUNSHINE amd64 > > > > > > I cant get sound working on my SB Live. > > > I have the following in kernel config: > > > device sound > > > device "snd_emu10k1" > > > > > > It seems like I dont have any sound modules either in /boot/kernel > > > (yeah, i know the modules are named snd_*) > > > > > > (no need to CC: back to me. I`m subscribed) > > > > Could this only be on amd64? [long rant snipped] It's unreasonable to claim that the whole sound system is broken on the basis of one driver not working with your hardware -- I've had no problems whatsoever with sound on my system, using both the onboard sound (VIA 8237/ Analog Devices AD1980 with the snd_via8233 driver) and an old Sound Blaster Live! Value card (with the snd_emu10k1 driver). Tim From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 04:24:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD77F16A4D0; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 04:24:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.mcneil.com (rrcs-west-24-199-45-54.biz.rr.com [24.199.45.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B8C543D68; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 04:24:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sean@mcneil.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.mcneil.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail.mcneil.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27ACAFD06B; Sat, 21 Aug 2004 21:24:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.mcneil.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (server.mcneil.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 45466-09; Sat, 21 Aug 2004 21:24:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [24.199.45.54] (mcneil.com [24.199.45.54]) by mail.mcneil.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D420FD029; Sat, 21 Aug 2004 21:24:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Sean McNeil To: Tim Robbins In-Reply-To: <20040822040453.GA11878@cat.robbins.dropbear.id.au> References: <1093108393.4202.8.camel@funshine.carebears.net> <20040821133701.6ecf9f04@dolphin.local.net> <20040822040453.GA11878@cat.robbins.dropbear.id.au> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1093148651.47618.3.camel@server.mcneil.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 21:24:11 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at mcneil.com cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org cc: "Conrad J. Sabatier" cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Fwd: sound in CURRENT] X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 04:24:13 -0000 On Sat, 2004-08-21 at 21:04, Tim Robbins wrote: > On Sat, Aug 21, 2004 at 01:37:01PM -0500, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: > > On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 19:13:13 +0200 > > Christer Solskogen wrote: > > > > > -----Forwarded Message----- > > > > From: Christer Solskogen > > > > To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org > > > > Subject: sound in CURRENT > > > > Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 16:26:03 +0200 > > > > > > > > FreeBSD funshine.carebears.net 5.3-BETA1 FreeBSD 5.3-BETA1 #1: Sat > > > > Aug 21 15:51:04 CEST 2004 > > > > root@funshine.carebears.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FUNSHINE amd64 > > > > > > > > I cant get sound working on my SB Live. > > > > I have the following in kernel config: > > > > device sound > > > > device "snd_emu10k1" > > > > > > > > It seems like I dont have any sound modules either in /boot/kernel > > > > (yeah, i know the modules are named snd_*) > > > > > > > > (no need to CC: back to me. I`m subscribed) > > > > > > Could this only be on amd64? > > [long rant snipped] > > It's unreasonable to claim that the whole sound system is broken on the > basis of one driver not working with your hardware -- I've had no problems > whatsoever with sound on my system, using both the onboard sound (VIA 8237/ > Analog Devices AD1980 with the snd_via8233 driver) and an old Sound Blaster > Live! Value card (with the snd_emu10k1 driver). Well he mentioned actually 2 different chip sets. I do not know if they are the same driver, though. I'm using the snd_via8233 as well and have terrible sound quality. Have you played back mp3 files on that machine? Do they sound good completely through? Mine sounds hurried at times. Like it is getting interrupts too soon. Cheers, Sean From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 05:01:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F95116A4CE; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 05:01:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp01.syd.iprimus.net.au (smtp01.syd.iprimus.net.au [210.50.30.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D04DF43D1D; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 05:01:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tim@robbins.dropbear.id.au) Received: from robbins.dropbear.id.au (203.134.132.68) by smtp01.syd.iprimus.net.au (7.0.028) id 412634F300075FE0; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 15:01:48 +1000 Received: by robbins.dropbear.id.au (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8274E420D; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 15:01:46 +1000 (EST) Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 15:01:46 +1000 From: Tim Robbins To: Sean McNeil Message-ID: <20040822050146.GC11878@cat.robbins.dropbear.id.au> References: <1093108393.4202.8.camel@funshine.carebears.net> <20040821133701.6ecf9f04@dolphin.local.net> <20040822040453.GA11878@cat.robbins.dropbear.id.au> <1093148651.47618.3.camel@server.mcneil.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1093148651.47618.3.camel@server.mcneil.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org cc: "Conrad J. Sabatier" cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Fwd: sound in CURRENT] X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 05:01:52 -0000 On Sat, Aug 21, 2004 at 09:24:11PM -0700, Sean McNeil wrote: > On Sat, 2004-08-21 at 21:04, Tim Robbins wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 21, 2004 at 01:37:01PM -0500, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: > > > On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 19:13:13 +0200 > > > Christer Solskogen wrote: > > > > > > > -----Forwarded Message----- > > > > > From: Christer Solskogen > > > > > To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org > > > > > Subject: sound in CURRENT > > > > > Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 16:26:03 +0200 > > > > > > > > > > FreeBSD funshine.carebears.net 5.3-BETA1 FreeBSD 5.3-BETA1 #1: Sat > > > > > Aug 21 15:51:04 CEST 2004 > > > > > root@funshine.carebears.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FUNSHINE amd64 > > > > > > > > > > I cant get sound working on my SB Live. > > > > > I have the following in kernel config: > > > > > device sound > > > > > device "snd_emu10k1" > > > > > > > > > > It seems like I dont have any sound modules either in /boot/kernel > > > > > (yeah, i know the modules are named snd_*) > > > > > > > > > > (no need to CC: back to me. I`m subscribed) > > > > > > > > Could this only be on amd64? > > > > [long rant snipped] > > > > It's unreasonable to claim that the whole sound system is broken on the > > basis of one driver not working with your hardware -- I've had no problems > > whatsoever with sound on my system, using both the onboard sound (VIA 8237/ > > Analog Devices AD1980 with the snd_via8233 driver) and an old Sound Blaster > > Live! Value card (with the snd_emu10k1 driver). > > Well he mentioned actually 2 different chip sets. I do not know if they > are the same driver, though. I'm using the snd_via8233 as well and have > terrible sound quality. Have you played back mp3 files on that > machine? Do they sound good completely through? Mine sounds hurried at > times. Like it is getting interrupts too soon. MP3 files play back fine with XMMS, mpg123, and everything else I've tried. The only time they don't is when WITNESS and INVARIANTS are both turned on and the box is under heavy load (buildworld, portupgrade, etc.). Tim From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 05:36:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED4D916A4CE for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 05:36:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp006.bizmail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp006.bizmail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.175.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C976443D48 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 05:36:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from noackjr@alumni.rice.edu) Received: from unknown (HELO optimator.noacks.org) (noackjr@supercrime.org@70.240.199.245 with login) by smtp006.bizmail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Aug 2004 05:36:52 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimator.noacks.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70CC46212; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 00:36:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from optimator.noacks.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (optimator.noacks.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 00608-04; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 00:36:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from compgeek.noacks.org (compgeek [192.168.1.10]) by optimator.noacks.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C5D261B2; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 00:36:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by compgeek.noacks.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i7M5alKd002138; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 00:36:49 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from noackjr@alumni.rice.edu) Message-ID: <412830EF.4010008@alumni.rice.edu> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 00:36:47 -0500 From: Jon Noack User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (X11/20040806) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sean McNeil References: <1093108393.4202.8.camel@funshine.carebears.net> <20040821133701.6ecf9f04@dolphin.local.net> <20040822040453.GA11878@cat.robbins.dropbear.id.au> <1093148651.47618.3.camel@server.mcneil.com> In-Reply-To: <1093148651.47618.3.camel@server.mcneil.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at noacks.org cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org cc: "Conrad J. Sabatier" cc: Tim Robbins Subject: Re: [Fwd: sound in CURRENT] X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: noackjr@alumni.rice.edu List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 05:36:53 -0000 Whoa there on the cross-posting... multimedia@ seems like the best place so let's stick with that. On 08/21/04 23:24, Sean McNeil wrote: > On Sat, 2004-08-21 at 21:04, Tim Robbins wrote: >> [long rant snipped] >> >> It's unreasonable to claim that the whole sound system is broken on >> the basis of one driver not working with your hardware -- I've had >> no problems whatsoever with sound on my system, using both the >> onboard sound (VIA 8237/ Analog Devices AD1980 with the snd_via8233 >> driver) and an old Sound Blaster Live! Value card (with the >> snd_emu10k1 driver). > > Well he mentioned actually 2 different chip sets. I do not know if > they are the same driver, though. I'm using the snd_via8233 as well > and have terrible sound quality. Have you played back mp3 files on > that machine? Do they sound good completely through? Mine sounds > hurried at times. Like it is getting interrupts too soon. Disabling PREEMPTION certainly doesn't help interrupt latency. However, I doubt it's the only issue. It seems like our sound folks are a bit overworked at the moment. I submitted a patch (to the multimedia@ list) way back in February to add S/PDIF output to the es137x driver. Someone said they'd commit it, but apparently it got lost in the shuffle. I opened a PR for it (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/68594) a couple months ago. It's a pretty simple patch; I've been using it for 6 months now and have never had a problem with it. I do not intend to trivialize or marginalize the work the sound folks have done, but my point here is that it just seems like we have more work than they can handle right now. This is open source and people have other priorities that keep them from making contributions to the project. That is expected. 5.3 is going to be one of the most public releases in FreeBSD's history and, to the end user, sound is one of the most "visible" systems in FreeBSD. When people load up 5.3 and experience sound issues, it will translate to a negative opinion of FreeBSD as a whole. Sound is like Internet connectivity: it is taken for granted but all hell breaks loose when it malfunctions. We may need to make it a higher priority or we'll lose people that otherwise would have made valuable contributions. This is the part of the email where normally the author would ask for people to step up and keep FreeBSD on the cutting edge. As I don't have the skills to do the work, I don't feel it's my place to ask anyone else to do it either. What I will do it make a commitment to test patches and continue learning all I can. Perhaps some day I can be the person I'm looking for... Jon From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 06:00:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DE5616A4CF for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 06:00:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pimout2-ext.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F3C443D48 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 06:00:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from elischer.org (adsl-68-124-233-133.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [68.124.233.133])i7M60PK6017940; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 02:00:26 -0400 Message-ID: <41283679.9010405@elischer.org> Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 23:00:25 -0700 From: Julian Elischer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.4b) Gecko/20030524 X-Accept-Language: en, hu MIME-Version: 1.0 To: noackjr@alumni.rice.edu References: <1093108393.4202.8.camel@funshine.carebears.net> <20040821133701.6ecf9f04@dolphin.local.net> <20040822040453.GA11878@cat.robbins.dropbear.id.au> <1093148651.47618.3.camel@server.mcneil.com> <412830EF.4010008@alumni.rice.edu> In-Reply-To: <412830EF.4010008@alumni.rice.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org cc: "Conrad J. Sabatier" cc: Sean McNeil cc: Tim Robbins Subject: Re: [Fwd: sound in CURRENT] X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 06:00:33 -0000 Jon Noack wrote: > Whoa there on the cross-posting... multimedia@ seems like the best > place so let's stick with that. > > On 08/21/04 23:24, Sean McNeil wrote: > >> On Sat, 2004-08-21 at 21:04, Tim Robbins wrote: >> >>> [long rant snipped] >>> > > This is the part of the email where normally the author would ask for > people to step up and keep FreeBSD on the cutting edge. As I don't have > the skills to do the work, I don't feel it's my place to ask anyone else > to do it either. What I will do it make a commitment to test patches > and continue learning all I can. Perhaps some day I can be the person > I'm looking for... On that topic.. someone had patches or instruction sto add back midi support while we are waiting for the new code.. it may be worth doing it for 5.3 so that we have at least SOME midi support.. > > Jon > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-multimedia > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-multimedia-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 16:21:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C62416A4CE; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 16:21:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.mcneil.com (rrcs-west-24-199-45-54.biz.rr.com [24.199.45.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44F1543D31; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 16:21:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sean@mcneil.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.mcneil.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail.mcneil.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2D37FD03D; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 09:21:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.mcneil.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (server.mcneil.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 29379-01; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 09:21:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [24.199.45.54] (mcneil.com [24.199.45.54]) by mail.mcneil.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49139FD012; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 09:21:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Sean McNeil To: Tim Robbins In-Reply-To: <20040822050146.GC11878@cat.robbins.dropbear.id.au> References: <1093108393.4202.8.camel@funshine.carebears.net> <20040821133701.6ecf9f04@dolphin.local.net> <20040822040453.GA11878@cat.robbins.dropbear.id.au> <1093148651.47618.3.camel@server.mcneil.com> <20040822050146.GC11878@cat.robbins.dropbear.id.au> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1093191704.27767.12.camel@server.mcneil.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 09:21:45 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at mcneil.com cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org cc: "Conrad J. Sabatier" Subject: Re: [Fwd: sound in CURRENT] X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 16:21:46 -0000 On Sat, 2004-08-21 at 22:01, Tim Robbins wrote: > On Sat, Aug 21, 2004 at 09:24:11PM -0700, Sean McNeil wrote: > > On Sat, 2004-08-21 at 21:04, Tim Robbins wrote: > > > On Sat, Aug 21, 2004 at 01:37:01PM -0500, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: > > > > On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 19:13:13 +0200 > > > > Christer Solskogen wrote: > > > > > > > > > -----Forwarded Message----- > > > > > > From: Christer Solskogen > > > > > > To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org > > > > > > Subject: sound in CURRENT > > > > > > Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 16:26:03 +0200 > > > > > > > > > > > > FreeBSD funshine.carebears.net 5.3-BETA1 FreeBSD 5.3-BETA1 #1: Sat > > > > > > Aug 21 15:51:04 CEST 2004 > > > > > > root@funshine.carebears.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FUNSHINE amd64 > > > > > > > > > > > > I cant get sound working on my SB Live. > > > > > > I have the following in kernel config: > > > > > > device sound > > > > > > device "snd_emu10k1" > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems like I dont have any sound modules either in /boot/kernel > > > > > > (yeah, i know the modules are named snd_*) > > > > > > > > > > > > (no need to CC: back to me. I`m subscribed) > > > > > > > > > > Could this only be on amd64? > > > > > > [long rant snipped] > > > > > > It's unreasonable to claim that the whole sound system is broken on the > > > basis of one driver not working with your hardware -- I've had no problems > > > whatsoever with sound on my system, using both the onboard sound (VIA 8237/ > > > Analog Devices AD1980 with the snd_via8233 driver) and an old Sound Blaster > > > Live! Value card (with the snd_emu10k1 driver). > > > > Well he mentioned actually 2 different chip sets. I do not know if they > > are the same driver, though. I'm using the snd_via8233 as well and have > > terrible sound quality. Have you played back mp3 files on that > > machine? Do they sound good completely through? Mine sounds hurried at > > times. Like it is getting interrupts too soon. > > MP3 files play back fine with XMMS, mpg123, and everything else I've tried. > The only time they don't is when WITNESS and INVARIANTS are both turned on > and the box is under heavy load (buildworld, portupgrade, etc.). Ah, OK. I think rythmbox is at fault. I've just installed xmms and played some samples. Sound is perfect. I've been using rythmbox exclusively for a little while now and this is where I have seen the problems. In fact, I am playing an mp3 now that was great with xmms and is messed up with rythmbox. Thanks for the feedback, Tim. Cheers, Sean From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 22:00:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65A8416A4CE; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 22:00:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hak.cnd.mcgill.ca (hak.cnd.McGill.CA [132.216.11.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0713C43D1D; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 22:00:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mat@hak.cnd.mcgill.ca) Received: from hak.cnd.mcgill.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hak.cnd.mcgill.ca (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i7MM7nZm006441; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 18:07:49 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mat@hak.cnd.mcgill.ca) Received: (from mat@localhost) by hak.cnd.mcgill.ca (8.12.9/8.12.8/Submit) id i7MM7mRs006440; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 18:07:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 18:07:48 -0400 From: Mathew Kanner To: Julian Elischer Message-ID: <20040822220748.GA6426@cnd.mcgill.ca> References: <1093108393.4202.8.camel@funshine.carebears.net> <20040821133701.6ecf9f04@dolphin.local.net> <20040822040453.GA11878@cat.robbins.dropbear.id.au> <1093148651.47618.3.camel@server.mcneil.com> <412830EF.4010008@alumni.rice.edu> <41283679.9010405@elischer.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41283679.9010405@elischer.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Organization: I speak for myself, operating in Montreal, CANADA X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.62 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.62 (2004-01-11) on hak.cnd.mcgill.ca cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org cc: Sean McNeil cc: noackjr@alumni.rice.edu cc: Tim Robbins Subject: Re: [Fwd: sound in CURRENT] X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 22:00:47 -0000 On Aug 22, Julian Elischer wrote: > Jon Noack wrote: > >Whoa there on the cross-posting... multimedia@ seems like the best > >place so let's stick with that. > > > >On 08/21/04 23:24, Sean McNeil wrote: > > > >>On Sat, 2004-08-21 at 21:04, Tim Robbins wrote: > >> > >>>[long rant snipped] > >>> > > > >This is the part of the email where normally the author would ask for > >people to step up and keep FreeBSD on the cutting edge. As I don't have > >the skills to do the work, I don't feel it's my place to ask anyone else > >to do it either. What I will do it make a commitment to test patches > >and continue learning all I can. Perhaps some day I can be the person > >I'm looking for... > > On that topic.. someone had patches or instruction sto add back midi support > while we are waiting for the new code.. > it may be worth doing it for 5.3 so that we have at least SOME midi > support.. I've been off-line for about six weeks. There were many problems with my ISP and so no internet after I moved. Anyway, I've been back on-line for like 24 h. If someone can tell me how to generate some diffs out of /usr/src/sys (that I sync'ed to releng_5 yesterday), I can provide midi/sequencer that least works for me with emu10k1 and cmi. (I'm scared to run cvsup...) Thanks, --Mat -- Any idiot can face a crisis; it is this day-to-day living that wears you out. - Chekhov From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 02:24:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09DDF16A4CE for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2004 02:24:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp005.bizmail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp005.bizmail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.175.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C013843D58 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2004 02:24:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from noackjr@alumni.rice.edu) Received: from unknown (HELO optimator.noacks.org) (noackjr@supercrime.org@70.240.199.245 with login) by smtp005.bizmail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Aug 2004 02:24:21 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimator.noacks.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA73D6217; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 21:24:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from optimator.noacks.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (optimator.noacks.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 74763-02; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 21:24:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from compgeek.noacks.org (compgeek [192.168.1.10]) by optimator.noacks.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60B2C6212; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 21:24:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by compgeek.noacks.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i7N2OHFx020424; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 21:24:18 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from noackjr@alumni.rice.edu) Message-ID: <41295551.4030402@alumni.rice.edu> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 21:24:17 -0500 From: Jon Noack User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (X11/20040806) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mathew Kanner References: <1093108393.4202.8.camel@funshine.carebears.net> <20040821133701.6ecf9f04@dolphin.local.net> <20040822040453.GA11878@cat.robbins.dropbear.id.au> <1093148651.47618.3.camel@server.mcneil.com> <412830EF.4010008@alumni.rice.edu> <41283679.9010405@elischer.org> <20040822220748.GA6426@cnd.mcgill.ca> In-Reply-To: <20040822220748.GA6426@cnd.mcgill.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at noacks.org cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org cc: Julian Elischer cc: Tim Robbins cc: Sean McNeil Subject: Re: [Fwd: sound in CURRENT] X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: noackjr@alumni.rice.edu List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 02:24:22 -0000 On 08/22/04 17:07, Mathew Kanner wrote: > I've been off-line for about six weeks. There were many > problems with my ISP and so no internet after I moved. Anyway, I've > been back on-line for like 24 h. > If someone can tell me how to generate some diffs out of > /usr/src/sys (that I sync'ed to releng_5 yesterday), I can provide > midi/sequencer that least works for me with emu10k1 and cmi. (I'm > scared to run cvsup...) Copy /usr/src/sys to somewhere else and then re-cvsup (if you've added new files/directories, be sure to remove them from the tree before running cvsup to be sure you have a "clean" tree). Run a diff between the 2 places. I find the easiest way to keep a custom tree up-to-date is by checking out the repository itself via cvsup (see /usr/share/examples/cvsup/cvs-supfile). You can then do a cvs checkout of the source from your mirrored local cvs repository. An update is then a 2-step process where you first update the repository via cvsup and then update your tree from the local repository via cvs. From the handbook section on cvsup (the cvs-supfile example uses this): "There is an important special case that comes into play if you specify neither a tag= field nor a date= field. In that case, you receive the actual RCS files directly from the server's CVS repository, rather than receiving a particular version. Developers generally prefer this mode of operation. By maintaining a copy of the repository itself on their systems, they gain the ability to browse the revision histories and examine past versions of files. This gain is achieved at a large cost in terms of disk space, however." To generate a diff is just running "cvs -R diff -u" (no need to have write-access; this also allows any user to do it). A bonus is that you get the specific revision you're diffing from. See this example diff: http://www.noacks.org/freebsd/es137x.diff Jon From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 03:39:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8249616A4CE; Mon, 23 Aug 2004 03:39:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hak.cnd.mcgill.ca (hak.cnd.McGill.CA [132.216.11.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBC1443D1F; Mon, 23 Aug 2004 03:39:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mat@hak.cnd.mcgill.ca) Received: from hak.cnd.mcgill.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hak.cnd.mcgill.ca (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i7N3kYZm006753; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 23:46:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mat@hak.cnd.mcgill.ca) Received: (from mat@localhost) by hak.cnd.mcgill.ca (8.12.9/8.12.8/Submit) id i7N3kXUZ006752; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 23:46:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 23:46:33 -0400 From: Mathew Kanner To: Jon Noack Message-ID: <20040823034633.GA6486@cnd.mcgill.ca> References: <1093108393.4202.8.camel@funshine.carebears.net> <20040821133701.6ecf9f04@dolphin.local.net> <20040822040453.GA11878@cat.robbins.dropbear.id.au> <1093148651.47618.3.camel@server.mcneil.com> <412830EF.4010008@alumni.rice.edu> <41283679.9010405@elischer.org> <20040822220748.GA6426@cnd.mcgill.ca> <41295551.4030402@alumni.rice.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41295551.4030402@alumni.rice.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Organization: I speak for myself, operating in Montreal, CANADA X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.62 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.62 (2004-01-11) on hak.cnd.mcgill.ca cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org cc: Julian Elischer cc: Tim Robbins cc: Sean McNeil cc: Mathew Kanner Subject: MIDI test patch X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 03:39:26 -0000 --+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Aug 22, Jon Noack wrote: > On 08/22/04 17:07, Mathew Kanner wrote: > Copy /usr/src/sys to somewhere else and then re-cvsup (if you've added > new files/directories, be sure to remove them from the tree before > running cvsup to be sure you have a "clean" tree). Run a diff between > the 2 places. That actually didn't work out so well, old tree with lots of garbage, turns of find -ctime was my friend. 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X-Accept-Language: en, hu MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mathew Kanner References: <1093108393.4202.8.camel@funshine.carebears.net> <20040821133701.6ecf9f04@dolphin.local.net> <20040822040453.GA11878@cat.robbins.dropbear.id.au> <1093148651.47618.3.camel@server.mcneil.com> <412830EF.4010008@alumni.rice.edu> <41283679.9010405@elischer.org> <20040822220748.GA6426@cnd.mcgill.ca> <41295551.4030402@alumni.rice.edu> <20040823034633.GA6486@cnd.mcgill.ca> In-Reply-To: <20040823034633.GA6486@cnd.mcgill.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org cc: Tim Robbins cc: Jon Noack cc: Sean McNeil Subject: Re: MIDI test patch X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 05:14:39 -0000 Mathew Kanner wrote: > On Aug 22, Jon Noack wrote: > >>On 08/22/04 17:07, Mathew Kanner wrote: > > >>Copy /usr/src/sys to somewhere else and then re-cvsup (if you've added >>new files/directories, be sure to remove them from the tree before >>running cvsup to be sure you have a "clean" tree). Run a diff between >>the 2 places. > > > That actually didn't work out so well, old tree with lots of > garbage, turns of find -ctime was my friend. > > Please find attached a patch to include midi2 (or is this > midi3?) > cd /usr/src/sys > patch -p1 < /patch/to/uncompressed_patch > cd moudles/sound/midi > make > make install > cd ../driver/emu10k1 > make > make install > kldload midi > kldload emu10k1 > kldload cmi > cd /usr/ports/audio/playmidi > make > make install > then play a midi... > > --Mat is this patch against 5.x or 5.3 or what? I assume this is basically the code that was removed.. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-multimedia > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-multimedia-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 23 14:26:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4BF116A4CE; Mon, 23 Aug 2004 14:26:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hak.cnd.mcgill.ca (hak.cnd.McGill.CA [132.216.11.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51E1F43D2F; Mon, 23 Aug 2004 14:26:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mat@hak.cnd.mcgill.ca) Received: from hak.cnd.mcgill.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hak.cnd.mcgill.ca (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i7NEXvZm007552; Mon, 23 Aug 2004 10:33:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mat@hak.cnd.mcgill.ca) Received: (from mat@localhost) by hak.cnd.mcgill.ca (8.12.9/8.12.8/Submit) id i7NEXsuS007549; Mon, 23 Aug 2004 10:33:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 10:33:54 -0400 From: Mathew Kanner To: Julian Elischer Message-ID: <20040823143354.GB6486@cnd.mcgill.ca> References: <1093108393.4202.8.camel@funshine.carebears.net> <20040821133701.6ecf9f04@dolphin.local.net> <20040822040453.GA11878@cat.robbins.dropbear.id.au> <1093148651.47618.3.camel@server.mcneil.com> <412830EF.4010008@alumni.rice.edu> <41283679.9010405@elischer.org> <20040822220748.GA6426@cnd.mcgill.ca> <41295551.4030402@alumni.rice.edu> <20040823034633.GA6486@cnd.mcgill.ca> <41297D34.6040207@elischer.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41297D34.6040207@elischer.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Organization: I speak for myself, operating in Montreal, CANADA X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.62 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.62 (2004-01-11) on hak.cnd.mcgill.ca cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org cc: Sean McNeil cc: Jon Noack cc: Mathew Kanner cc: Tim Robbins Subject: Re: MIDI test patch X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 14:26:49 -0000 On Aug 23, Julian Elischer wrote: > Mathew Kanner wrote: > >On Aug 22, Jon Noack wrote: > >>On 08/22/04 17:07, Mathew Kanner wrote: > ... > is this patch against 5.x or 5.3 or what? Releng_5, I think I mentioned this earlier. > I assume this is basically the code that was removed.. Nothing to do with it. That code is gone, you weren't using it were you? --Mat > -- (on the United States) Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and eventempered the beast, one is affected by every twitch and grunt. - Pierre Elliott Trudeau From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 05:37:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3901216A4CE for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 05:37:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pandora.afflictions.org (asylum.afflictions.org [64.7.134.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7793D43D62 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 05:37:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dgerow@afflictions.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pandora.afflictions.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 248BA78C8D for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 01:42:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dementia.afflictions.org (dementia.afflictions.org [172.19.206.56]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pandora.afflictions.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 837AB78C8C for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 01:42:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dementia.afflictions.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B77131700B; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 01:36:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 01:36:43 -0400 From: Damian Gerow To: multimedia@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040827053643.GB29321@afflictions.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.3-BETA1 on a i386 X-GPG-Fingerprint: B3D7 D901 A53A 1A99 BFD6 E6DF 9F3B 742B C288 9CC9 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at afflictions.org Subject: mplayer/mencoder with bktr(4) device X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 05:37:06 -0000 I'm new to bktr, and I've got a few questions regarding mplayer/mencoder usage with it. I've got an AverMedia UltraTV PCI 350: bktr0@pci2:11:0: class=0x040000 card=0x00031461 chip=0x036e109e rev=0x11 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Brooktree Corporation' device = 'Bt878 MediaStream Controller' class = multimedia subclass = video none0@pci2:11:1: class=0x048000 card=0x00031461 chip=0x0878109e rev=0x11 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Brooktree Corporation' device = 'Bt878/Fusion878A Video Capture (Audio Section)' class = multimedia I've got RCA in working just fine with mplayer, and both RCA and S-Video in working with fxtv. But I'm having some quality issues with the de-interlacing of the S-Video input with mplayer -- can anyone give me some pointers? I've tried various -vf's (hqdn3d, lavcdeint, pp, and pullup seem to be the best), but the picture is never quite as good as it is with fxtv. And there's a noticable difference between RCA and S-Video (on fxtv), so I'd like to get the latter working properly. Secondly, how does one encode the audio with mencoder? If I'm looking at the above correctly, there's no support for the audio portion of this chip? But it looks like, in fxtv, if I leave the audio set to 'Auto' (as opposed to 'Internal'), I get two audio feeds...? Any pointers or suggestions are welcome... - Damian From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 09:55:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44FE116A4CE for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 09:55:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from serv01.n1.purpe.com (68-232-177-234.pittpa.adelphia.net [68.232.177.234]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C830043D5E for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 09:55:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rohitj@serv01.n1.purpe.com) Received: from serv01.n1.purpe.com (localhost.n1.purpe.com [127.0.0.1]) by serv01.n1.purpe.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7R9tQIY027455 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 05:55:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rohitj@serv01.n1.purpe.com) Received: (from rohitj@localhost) by serv01.n1.purpe.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i7R9tQU6027454 for freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 05:55:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rohitj) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 05:55:26 -0400 From: Rohit Jalan To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040827095526.GB27247@serv01.n1.purpe.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Archived: msg.4GrksFnPs@serv01.n1.purpe.com Subject: FreeBSD 5.x driver for SAA7134 PCI video capture/tuner boards X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 09:55:29 -0000 The driver and applications can be found at: http://download.purpe.com For a list of cards based on the SAA7134 chip see: http://lxr.linux.no/source/Documentation/video4linux/CARDLIST.saa7134?v=2.6.5 and http://home.t-online.de/home/gunther.mayer/bttv/bttv-gallery.html Rohit -- From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 13:23:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F37D316A4CE for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 13:23:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vineyard.net (k1.vineyard.net [204.17.195.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9668B43D1F for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 13:23:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joshe@mail.elsasser.org) Received: from localhost (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by vineyard.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C14DC91535 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 09:23:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vineyard.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (king1.vineyard.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 78453-01-8 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 09:23:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.elsasser.org (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by vineyard.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 353EE91529 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 09:23:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail.elsasser.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6D364AD; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 09:23:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 09:23:16 -0400 From: Josh Elsasser To: Damian Gerow Message-ID: <20040827132316.GA35167@jade.elsasser.org> References: <20040827053643.GB29321@afflictions.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040827053643.GB29321@afflictions.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-PGP-Key-URL: http://www.elsasser.org/pubkey.asc X-PGP-Key-Fingerprint: 8F39 9F2B 3738 54D9 3E40 4604 CFD5 EA3F B833 FD50 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS-king1 at Vineyard.NET cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mplayer/mencoder with bktr(4) device X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 13:23:37 -0000 On Fri, Aug 27, 2004 at 01:36:43AM -0400, Damian Gerow wrote: > I'm new to bktr, and I've got a few questions regarding mplayer/mencoder > usage with it. I've got an AverMedia UltraTV PCI 350: > > bktr0@pci2:11:0: class=0x040000 card=0x00031461 chip=0x036e109e rev=0x11 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Brooktree Corporation' > device = 'Bt878 MediaStream Controller' > class = multimedia > subclass = video > none0@pci2:11:1: class=0x048000 card=0x00031461 chip=0x0878109e rev=0x11 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Brooktree Corporation' > device = 'Bt878/Fusion878A Video Capture (Audio Section)' > class = multimedia > > I've got RCA in working just fine with mplayer, and both RCA and S-Video in > working with fxtv. But I'm having some quality issues with the > de-interlacing of the S-Video input with mplayer -- can anyone give me some > pointers? I've tried various -vf's (hqdn3d, lavcdeint, pp, and pullup seem > to be the best), but the picture is never quite as good as it is with fxtv. > And there's a noticable difference between RCA and S-Video (on fxtv), so I'd > like to get the latter working properly. > > Secondly, how does one encode the audio with mencoder? If I'm looking at > the above correctly, there's no support for the audio portion of this chip? > But it looks like, in fxtv, if I leave the audio set to 'Auto' (as opposed > to 'Internal'), I get two audio feeds...? > > Any pointers or suggestions are welcome... > > - Damian What version of freebsd are you using? There was a tuning bug in the bktr driver that was fixed in -current a couple of months ago, but was only recently merged into -stable. I have a patch for mplayer 0.92 that works around it, but I doubt it will apply cleanly to the version currently in ports. -jre From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 16:44:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FE5B16A4CE for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 16:44:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pandora.afflictions.org (asylum.afflictions.org [64.7.134.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F48F43D53 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 16:44:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dgerow@afflictions.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pandora.afflictions.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB89678C8E; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 12:49:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dementia.afflictions.org (dementia.afflictions.org [172.19.206.56]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pandora.afflictions.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41DA178C8C; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 12:49:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dementia.afflictions.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D3D171700B; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 12:44:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 12:44:21 -0400 From: Damian Gerow To: Josh Elsasser Message-ID: <20040827164421.GC53169@afflictions.org> References: <20040827053643.GB29321@afflictions.org> <20040827132316.GA35167@jade.elsasser.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040827132316.GA35167@jade.elsasser.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.3-BETA1 on a i386 X-GPG-Fingerprint: B3D7 D901 A53A 1A99 BFD6 E6DF 9F3B 742B C288 9CC9 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at afflictions.org cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mplayer/mencoder with bktr(4) device X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 16:44:41 -0000 Thus spake Josh Elsasser (jre@vineyard.net) [27/08/04 09:53]: : What version of freebsd are you using? There was a tuning bug in the : bktr driver that was fixed in -current a couple of months ago, but was : only recently merged into -stable. I have a patch for mplayer 0.92 : that works around it, but I doubt it will apply cleanly to the version : currently in ports. 5.3-BETA1. Sorry, should have included that. From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 17:48:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54EFC16A4CE for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 17:48:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hak.cnd.mcgill.ca (hak.cnd.McGill.CA [132.216.11.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAC2E43D6E for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 17:48:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mat@hak.cnd.mcgill.ca) Received: from hak.cnd.mcgill.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hak.cnd.mcgill.ca (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i7RHtK1M005577; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 13:55:20 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mat@hak.cnd.mcgill.ca) Received: (from mat@localhost) by hak.cnd.mcgill.ca (8.12.9/8.12.8/Submit) id i7RHtKOl005576; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 13:55:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 13:55:20 -0400 From: Mathew Kanner To: Rohit Jalan Message-ID: <20040827175520.GF670@cnd.mcgill.ca> References: <20040827095526.GB27247@serv01.n1.purpe.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040827095526.GB27247@serv01.n1.purpe.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Organization: I speak for myself, operating in Montreal, CANADA X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.62 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.62 (2004-01-11) on hak.cnd.mcgill.ca cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.x driver for SAA7134 PCI video capture/tuner boards X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 17:48:03 -0000 On Aug 27, Rohit Jalan wrote: > The driver and applications can be found at: > > http://download.purpe.com > > > For a list of cards based on the SAA7134 chip see: > > http://lxr.linux.no/source/Documentation/video4linux/CARDLIST.saa7134?v=2.6.5 > and > http://home.t-online.de/home/gunther.mayer/bttv/bttv-gallery.html Very cool. I was just thinking today how much I wanted a TV tuner card. --Mat -- Having your book made into a movie is like having your ox made into a bouillon cube. - Bill Neely From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 28 14:25:05 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C95AA16A4CE; Sat, 28 Aug 2004 14:25:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from tigra.ip.net.ua (tigra.ip.net.ua [82.193.96.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65A6043D41; Sat, 28 Aug 2004 14:25:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ru@ip.net.ua) Received: from heffalump.ip.net.ua (heffalump.ip.net.ua [82.193.96.213]) by tigra.ip.net.ua (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i7SEOxEG023948 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 28 Aug 2004 17:25:00 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru@ip.net.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by heffalump.ip.net.ua (8.13.1/8.13.1) id i7SEP3dK052809; Sat, 28 Aug 2004 17:25:03 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 17:25:03 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Seigo Tanimura , Cameron Grant , "Simon L. Nielsen" Message-ID: <20040828142503.GA52613@ip.net.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="JgQwtEuHJzHdouWu" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new cc: current@FreeBSD.org cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.org Subject: [PATCH] sound(4) related manpages 5.3 TODO item X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 14:25:06 -0000 --JgQwtEuHJzHdouWu Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="xgyAXRrhYN0wYx8y" Content-Disposition: inline --xgyAXRrhYN0wYx8y Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gang, [ Please keep me Cc:ed when replying. ] I've picked up the "sound(4) related manual pages" item from the 5.3-RELEASE TODO list. While working on adopting the pcm(4) and related manpages to the new world order, I have noticed some odds that I'd like your comments on first, before I proceed further. One and most important thing I'm not sure I understand, and that's causing a lot of confusion, is why "device pcm" was renamed to "device sound" in the first place? I believe the reason is that "device sound" is a generic sound driver, which has support for PCM playback, mixer, /dev/sndstat, eventually MIDI, sequencer, and so on. Individual sound drivers are free to implement either of these interfaces. Most of them implement "pcm" nowadays, so saying that "pcm was renamed to sound" is not quite correct. In other words, the sound.ko module provides the infrastructure for more than just PCM, and the sound(4) manpage should eventually document more than just PCM. Does that sound correct? Also, there seems to be some confusion between the modules, drivers, and devices that they implement, which are different beasties, and are often named differently, and this causes some misunderstandings and bugs (see below). Anyway, the attached patch adopts the sound(4) related man pages to the new world order. How to proceed: 1. The following repo-copies in /home/ncvs/src/share/man/man4 should be made (there were made locally to produce the patch): pcm.4,v -> sound.4,v csa.4,v -> snd_csa.4,v gusc.4,v -> snd_gusc.4,v=20 maestro3.4,v -> snd_maestro3.4,v=20 sbc.4,v -> snd_sbc.4,v uaudio.4,v -> snd_uaudio.4,v 2. The old manpages (on the left) were removed, and aren't included in the patch. 3. After repo-copies and deletes, the attached patch should be applied. It's mostly mechanical (foo -> snd_foo, pcm -> sound), with the following notable exceptions: - Note that non-PnP ISA cards, such as those handled by snd_mss(4) and snd_ad1816(4), still require hints of the form hint.pcm.0.at=3D"isa" hint.pcm.0.irq=3D"5" hint.pcm.0.drq=3D"1" hint.pcm.0.flags=3D"0x0" because they implement device "pcm". Granted, the difference between module and driver name is confusing enough that Seigo misspelled hints names in sys/conf/NOTES, and Simon misspelled them in the new snd_ad1816(4) manpage. The patch corrects the hints names in the snd_ad1816(4) manpage and NOTES. The patch removes the "hint.snd_mss" from NOTES because (like was said) the snd_mss(4) module implements the "pcm" device, hence the hints start with "hint.pcm", and this is already documented in the sound(4) manpage. Module snd_sbc(4) and snd_gusc(4) are special in that they implement PCM support through the bridge device ("sbc" and "gusc", respectively), with "pcm" device as a child. For them, ISA hints should be spelled "hint.sbc" and "hint.gusc", respectively. This is also fixed in NOTES. - The patch also fixes the SYNOPSIS section of the snd_maestro3(4) manpage to align it with other sound drivers manpages, and adds missing "device sound" to almost all of the snd_*(4) manpages. Does that look sane? I'd be grateful is someone more fluent with our sound subsystem could review this. Cheers, --=20 Ruslan Ermilov ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer --xgyAXRrhYN0wYx8y Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=p Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Index: sys/conf/NOTES =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/conf/NOTES,v retrieving revision 1.1263 diff -u -r1.1263 NOTES --- sys/conf/NOTES 19 Aug 2004 18:29:55 -0000 1.1263 +++ sys/conf/NOTES 28 Aug 2004 11:14:29 -0000 @@ -1900,20 +1900,16 @@ device snd_uaudio =20 # For non-pnp sound cards: -hint.snd_mss.0.at=3D"isa" -hint.snd_mss.0.irq=3D"10" -hint.snd_mss.0.drq=3D"1" -hint.snd_mss.0.flags=3D"0x0" -hint.snd_sbc.0.at=3D"isa" -hint.snd_sbc.0.port=3D"0x220" -hint.snd_sbc.0.irq=3D"5" -hint.snd_sbc.0.drq=3D"1" -hint.snd_sbc.0.flags=3D"0x15" -hint.snd_gusc.0.at=3D"isa" -hint.snd_gusc.0.port=3D"0x220" -hint.snd_gusc.0.irq=3D"5" -hint.snd_gusc.0.drq=3D"1" -hint.snd_gusc.0.flags=3D"0x13" +hint.sbc.0.at=3D"isa" +hint.sbc.0.port=3D"0x220" +hint.sbc.0.irq=3D"5" +hint.sbc.0.drq=3D"1" +hint.sbc.0.flags=3D"0x15" +hint.gusc.0.at=3D"isa" +hint.gusc.0.port=3D"0x220" +hint.gusc.0.irq=3D"5" +hint.gusc.0.drq=3D"1" +hint.gusc.0.flags=3D"0x13" =20 # # Miscellaneous hardware: Index: share/man/man4/Makefile =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/share/man/man4/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.277 diff -u -r1.277 Makefile --- share/man/man4/Makefile 27 Aug 2004 22:06:56 -0000 1.277 +++ share/man/man4/Makefile 28 Aug 2004 11:58:10 -0000 @@ -40,7 +40,6 @@ ciss.4 \ cm.4 \ crypto.4 \ - csa.4 \ cue.4 \ cy.4 \ da.4 \ @@ -80,7 +79,6 @@ geom.4 \ gif.4 \ gre.4 \ - gusc.4 \ gx.4 \ harp.4 \ hatm.4 \ @@ -136,7 +134,6 @@ mac_seeotheruids.4 \ mac_stub.4 \ mac_test.4 \ - maestro3.4 \ md.4 \ mem.4 \ meteor.4 \ @@ -214,7 +211,6 @@ pccbb.4 \ pci.4 \ pcic.4 \ - pcm.4 \ pcn.4 \ pcvt.4 \ pim.4 \ @@ -239,7 +235,6 @@ sa.4 \ sab.4 \ safe.4 \ - sbc.4 \ sbp.4 \ sbp_targ.4 \ sbsh.4 \ @@ -261,11 +256,17 @@ snd_als4000.4 \ snd_cmi.4 \ snd_cs4281.4 \ + snd_csa.4 \ snd_ds1.4 \ snd_emu10k1.4 \ snd_es137x.4 \ + snd_gusc.4 \ + snd_maestro3.4 \ + snd_sbc.4 \ snd_solo.4 \ + snd_uaudio.4 \ snp.4 \ + sound.4 \ spic.4 \ splash.4 \ sppp.4 \ @@ -293,7 +294,6 @@ tx.4 \ txp.4 \ uart.4 \ - uaudio.4 \ ubsa.4 \ ubsec.4 \ ubser.4 \ @@ -393,9 +393,6 @@ MLINKS+=3Doldcard.4 card.4 MLINKS+=3Dpatm.4 if_patm.4 MLINKS+=3Dpccbb.4 cbb.4 -MLINKS+=3Dpcm.4 als4000.4 \ - pcm.4 emu10k1.4 \ - pcm.4 snd.4 MLINKS+=3Dpcn.4 if_pcn.4 MLINKS+=3Dpcvt.4 vt.4 MLINKS+=3Dppp.4 if_ppp.4 @@ -413,6 +410,8 @@ MLINKS+=3Dsl.4 if_sl.4 MLINKS+=3Dsmp.4 SMP.4 MLINKS+=3Dsn.4 if_sn.4 +MLINKS+=3Dsound.4 pcm.4 \ + sound.4 snd.4 MLINKS+=3Dsplash.4 screensaver.4 MLINKS+=3Dste.4 if_ste.4 MLINKS+=3Dstf.4 if_stf.4 Index: share/man/man4/snd_ad1816.4 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/share/man/man4/snd_ad1816.4,v retrieving revision 1.1 diff -u -r1.1 snd_ad1816.4 --- share/man/man4/snd_ad1816.4 27 Aug 2004 22:06:56 -0000 1.1 +++ share/man/man4/snd_ad1816.4 28 Aug 2004 12:39:43 -0000 @@ -31,12 +31,13 @@ .Nm snd_ad1816 .Nd "Analog Devices AD1816 ISA bridge device driver" .Sh SYNOPSIS +.Cd "device sound" .Cd "device snd_ad1816" .Pp -.Cd hint.snd_ad1816.0.at=3D"isa" -.Cd hint.snd_ad1816.0.irq=3D"10" -.Cd hint.snd_ad1816.0.drq=3D"1" -.Cd hint.snd_ad1816.0.flags=3D"0x0" +.Cd hint.pcm.0.at=3D"isa" +.Cd hint.pcm.0.irq=3D"10" +.Cd hint.pcm.0.drq=3D"1" +.Cd hint.pcm.0.flags=3D"0x0" .Pp .Sh DESCRIPTION The Index: share/man/man4/snd_als4000.4 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/share/man/man4/snd_als4000.4,v retrieving revision 1.1 diff -u -r1.1 snd_als4000.4 --- share/man/man4/snd_als4000.4 27 Aug 2004 22:06:56 -0000 1.1 +++ share/man/man4/snd_als4000.4 28 Aug 2004 12:39:47 -0000 @@ -31,6 +31,7 @@ .Nm snd_als4000 .Nd "Avance Logic ALS4000 PCI bridge device driver" .Sh SYNOPSIS +.Cd "device sound" .Cd "device snd_als4000" .Pp .Sh DESCRIPTION Index: share/man/man4/snd_cmi.4 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/share/man/man4/snd_cmi.4,v retrieving revision 1.1 diff -u -r1.1 snd_cmi.4 --- share/man/man4/snd_cmi.4 27 Aug 2004 22:06:56 -0000 1.1 +++ share/man/man4/snd_cmi.4 28 Aug 2004 12:39:48 -0000 @@ -31,6 +31,7 @@ .Nm snd_cmi .Nd "CMedia CMI8338/CMI8738 PCI bridge device driver" .Sh SYNOPSIS +.Cd "device sound" .Cd "device snd_cmi" .Pp .Sh DESCRIPTION Index: share/man/man4/snd_cs4281.4 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/share/man/man4/snd_cs4281.4,v retrieving revision 1.1 diff -u -r1.1 snd_cs4281.4 --- share/man/man4/snd_cs4281.4 27 Aug 2004 22:06:56 -0000 1.1 +++ share/man/man4/snd_cs4281.4 28 Aug 2004 12:39:50 -0000 @@ -31,6 +31,7 @@ .Nm snd_cs4281 .Nd "Crystal Semiconductor CS4281 PCI bridge device driver" .Sh SYNOPSIS +.Cd "device sound" .Cd "device snd_cs4281" .Pp .Sh DESCRIPTION Index: share/man/man4/snd_csa.4 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/share/man/man4/snd_csa.4,v retrieving revision 1.9 diff -u -r1.9 snd_csa.4 --- share/man/man4/snd_csa.4 8 Jul 2002 20:57:19 -0000 1.9 +++ share/man/man4/snd_csa.4 28 Aug 2004 12:39:52 -0000 @@ -23,21 +23,22 @@ .\" OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF .\" SUCH DAMAGE. .\" -.\" $FreeBSD: src/share/man/man4/snd_csa.4,v 1.9 2002/07/08 20:57:19 black= end Exp $ +.\" $FreeBSD$ .\" -.Dd December 18, 1999 -.Dt CSA 4 +.Dd August 28, 2004 +.Dt SND_CSA 4 .Os .Sh NAME -.Nm csa +.Nm snd_csa .Nd Crystal Semiconductor CS461x/462x/4280 PCI bridge device driver .Sh SYNOPSIS -.Cd "device csa" +.Cd "device sound" +.Cd "device snd_csa" .Sh DESCRIPTION The .Nm bridge driver allows the generic audio drivers including -.Xr pcm 4 +.Xr sound 4 to attach to the following PCI sound cards: .Bl -bullet -width 2m .It @@ -58,6 +59,6 @@ device driver first appeared in .Fx 4.0 . .Sh SEE ALSO -.Xr pcm 4 +.Xr sound 4 .Sh AUTHORS .An Seigo Tanimura Aq tanimura@r.dl.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp Index: share/man/man4/snd_ds1.4 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/share/man/man4/snd_ds1.4,v retrieving revision 1.1 diff -u -r1.1 snd_ds1.4 --- share/man/man4/snd_ds1.4 27 Aug 2004 22:06:56 -0000 1.1 +++ share/man/man4/snd_ds1.4 28 Aug 2004 12:39:55 -0000 @@ -31,6 +31,7 @@ .Nm snd_ds1 .Nd "Yamaha DS-1 PCI bridge device driver" .Sh SYNOPSIS +.Cd "device sound" .Cd "device snd_ds1" .Pp .Sh DESCRIPTION Index: share/man/man4/snd_emu10k1.4 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/share/man/man4/snd_emu10k1.4,v retrieving revision 1.1 diff -u -r1.1 snd_emu10k1.4 --- share/man/man4/snd_emu10k1.4 27 Aug 2004 22:06:56 -0000 1.1 +++ share/man/man4/snd_emu10k1.4 28 Aug 2004 12:39:56 -0000 @@ -31,6 +31,7 @@ .Nm snd_emu10k1 .Nd "SoundBlaster Live! and Audigy PCI bridge device driver" .Sh SYNOPSIS +.Cd "device sound" .Cd "device snd_emu10k1" .Pp .Sh DESCRIPTION Index: share/man/man4/snd_es137x.4 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/share/man/man4/snd_es137x.4,v retrieving revision 1.1 diff -u -r1.1 snd_es137x.4 --- share/man/man4/snd_es137x.4 27 Aug 2004 22:06:56 -0000 1.1 +++ share/man/man4/snd_es137x.4 28 Aug 2004 12:39:58 -0000 @@ -31,6 +31,7 @@ .Nm snd_es137x .Nd "Ensoniq AudioPCI ES137x bridge device driver" .Sh SYNOPSIS +.Cd "device sound" .Cd "device snd_es137x" .Pp .Sh DESCRIPTION Index: share/man/man4/snd_gusc.4 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/share/man/man4/snd_gusc.4,v retrieving revision 1.8 diff -u -r1.8 snd_gusc.4 --- share/man/man4/snd_gusc.4 3 Jul 2004 18:29:20 -0000 1.8 +++ share/man/man4/snd_gusc.4 28 Aug 2004 12:40:00 -0000 @@ -23,17 +23,17 @@ .\" OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF .\" SUCH DAMAGE. .\" -.\" $FreeBSD: src/share/man/man4/snd_gusc.4,v 1.8 2004/07/03 18:29:20 ru E= xp $ +.\" $FreeBSD$ .\" -.Dd December 18, 1999 -.Dt GUSC 4 +.Dd August 28, 2004 +.Dt SND_GUSC 4 .Os .Sh NAME -.Nm gusc +.Nm snd_gusc .Nd Gravis UltraSound ISA bridge device driver .Sh SYNOPSIS -.Cd "device pcm" -.Cd "device gusc" +.Cd "device sound" +.Cd "device snd_gusc" .Pp For non-PnP cards, add the following lines in .Pa /boot/device.hints . @@ -46,7 +46,7 @@ The .Nm bridge driver allows the generic audio drivers including -.Xr pcm 4 +.Xr sound 4 to attach to the following ISA sound cards: .Bl -bullet -width 2m .It @@ -71,7 +71,7 @@ device driver first appeared in .Fx 4.0 . .Sh SEE ALSO -.Xr pcm 4 +.Xr sound 4 .Sh AUTHORS .An Ville-Pertti Keinonen Aq will@iki.fi .An Seigo Tanimura Aq tanimura@r.dl.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp Index: share/man/man4/snd_maestro3.4 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/share/man/man4/snd_maestro3.4,v retrieving revision 1.3 diff -u -r1.3 snd_maestro3.4 --- share/man/man4/snd_maestro3.4 21 Nov 2001 17:12:31 -0000 1.3 +++ share/man/man4/snd_maestro3.4 28 Aug 2004 12:40:02 -0000 @@ -22,16 +22,17 @@ .\" OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF .\" SUCH DAMAGE. .\" -.\" $FreeBSD: src/share/man/man4/snd_maestro3.4,v 1.3 2001/11/21 17:12:31 = ru Exp $ +.\" $FreeBSD$ .\" -.Dd October 14, 2001 -.Dt MAESTRO3 4 +.Dd August 28, 2004 +.Dt SND_MAESTRO3 4 .Os .Sh NAME -.Nm maestro3 +.Nm snd_maestro3 .Nd FreeBSD audio sub-driver for ESS Maestro3/Allegro-1 hardware .Sh SYNOPSIS -.Li "kldload snd_maestro3" +.Cd "device sound" +.Cd "device snd_maestro3" .Sh DESCRIPTION The .Nm @@ -45,7 +46,7 @@ License, and thus this driver is not included in the default .Pa GENERIC kernel, nor is it compiled into the kernel when -.Cd "device pcm" +.Cd "device sound" is specified in the kernel config file. A convenient way to automatically load the driver is to add the line .Pp @@ -64,7 +65,7 @@ .Pa /boot/device.hints to override the default setting. .Sh SEE ALSO -.Xr pcm 4 , +.Xr sound 4 , .Xr loader.conf 5 .Sh HISTORY The Index: share/man/man4/snd_sbc.4 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/share/man/man4/snd_sbc.4,v retrieving revision 1.10 diff -u -r1.10 snd_sbc.4 --- share/man/man4/snd_sbc.4 3 Jul 2004 18:29:20 -0000 1.10 +++ share/man/man4/snd_sbc.4 28 Aug 2004 13:57:23 -0000 @@ -25,14 +25,15 @@ .\" .\" $FreeBSD: src/share/man/man4/snd_sbc.4,v 1.10 2004/07/03 18:29:20 ru E= xp $ .\" -.Dd December 18, 1999 -.Dt SBC 4 +.Dd August 28, 2004 +.Dt SND_SBC 4 .Os .Sh NAME -.Nm sbc +.Nm snd_sbc .Nd Creative Sound Blaster ISA and compatible bridge device driver .Sh SYNOPSIS -.Cd "device sbc" +.Cd "device sound" +.Cd "device snd_sbc" .Pp Non-PnP cards require the following lines in .Pa /boot/device.hints : @@ -45,7 +46,7 @@ The .Nm bridge driver allows the generic audio drivers including -.Xr pcm 4 +.Xr sound 4 to attach to the following ISA sound cards: .Bl -bullet -width 2m .It @@ -75,6 +76,6 @@ device driver first appeared in .Fx 4.0 . .Sh SEE ALSO -.Xr pcm 4 +.Xr sound 4 .Sh AUTHORS .An Seigo Tanimura Aq tanimura@r.dl.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp Index: share/man/man4/snd_solo.4 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/share/man/man4/snd_solo.4,v retrieving revision 1.1 diff -u -r1.1 snd_solo.4 --- share/man/man4/snd_solo.4 27 Aug 2004 22:06:56 -0000 1.1 +++ share/man/man4/snd_solo.4 28 Aug 2004 12:40:07 -0000 @@ -31,6 +31,7 @@ .Nm snd_solo .Nd "ESS Solo-1/1E PCI bridge device driver" .Sh SYNOPSIS +.Cd "device sound" .Cd "device snd_solo" .Pp .Sh DESCRIPTION Index: share/man/man4/snd_uaudio.4 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/share/man/man4/snd_uaudio.4,v retrieving revision 1.3 diff -u -r1.3 snd_uaudio.4 --- share/man/man4/snd_uaudio.4 8 Jul 2004 12:36:20 -0000 1.3 +++ share/man/man4/snd_uaudio.4 28 Aug 2004 12:40:12 -0000 @@ -34,17 +34,18 @@ .\" ARISING IN ANY WAY OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF= THE .\" POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGE. .\" -.\" $FreeBSD: src/share/man/man4/snd_uaudio.4,v 1.3 2004/07/08 12:36:20 ru= Exp $ +.\" $FreeBSD$ .\" -.Dd November 10, 2003 -.Dt UAUDIO 4 +.Dd August 28, 2004 +.Dt SND_UAUDIO 4 .Os .Sh NAME -.Nm uaudio +.Nm snd_uaudio .Nd USB audio device driver .Sh SYNOPSIS -.Cd "device pcm" +.Cd "device sound" .Cd "device usb" +.Cd "device snd_uaudio" .Sh DESCRIPTION The .Nm @@ -62,7 +63,7 @@ .Ql USB Audio Class Specification for more information. .Sh SEE ALSO -.Xr pcm 4 , +.Xr sound 4 , .Xr usb 4 .Rs .%T "USB Audio Class Specifications" Index: share/man/man4/sound.4 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/share/man/man4/sound.4,v retrieving revision 1.36 diff -u -r1.36 sound.4 --- share/man/man4/sound.4 7 Jul 2004 19:57:14 -0000 1.36 +++ share/man/man4/sound.4 28 Aug 2004 13:56:18 -0000 @@ -23,12 +23,13 @@ .\" OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF .\" SUCH DAMAGE. .\" -.\" $FreeBSD: src/share/man/man4/sound.4,v 1.36 2004/07/07 19:57:14 ru Exp= $ +.\" $FreeBSD$ .\" -.Dd June 24, 2004 -.Dt PCM 4 +.Dd August 18, 2004 +.Dt SOUND 4 .Os .Sh NAME +.Nm sound , .Nm pcm , .Nm snd .Nd @@ -36,7 +37,7 @@ PCM audio device infrastructure .Sh SYNOPSIS For a card with bridge driver support, and a PnP card: -.Cd "device pcm" +.Cd "device sound" .Pp For a card without bridge driver support, and a non-PnP card, the following lines may be required in @@ -109,7 +110,7 @@ In general, the module .Pa snd_foo corresponds to -.Cd "device foo" +.Cd "device snd_foo" and can be loaded by the boot .Xr loader 8 @@ -338,6 +339,8 @@ .Nm device driver first appeared in .Fx 2.2.6 +as +.Nm pcm , written by .An Luigi Rizzo . It was later @@ -348,9 +351,9 @@ The API evolved from the VOXWARE standard which later became OSS standard. .Sh SEE ALSO -.Xr csa 4 , -.Xr gusc 4 , -.Xr sbc 4 , +.Xr snd_csa 4 , +.Xr snd_gusc 4 , +.Xr snd_sbc 4 , .Xr devfs 5 , .Xr loader.conf 5 , .Xr dmesg 8 , @@ -364,7 +367,7 @@ .An -nosplit .An Luigi Rizzo Aq luigi@iet.unipi.it initially wrote the -.Nm +.Nm pcm device driver and this manual page. .An Cameron Grant Aq gandalf@vilnya.demon.co.uk later revised the device driver for --xgyAXRrhYN0wYx8y-- --JgQwtEuHJzHdouWu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBMJW/qRfpzJluFF4RAi6IAJ9xnjkmgmGVqV1wMwcMfZdvNT/BaACggYqv xNl+IcJ7sKHZQJJArQRdQ4E= =QlNe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --JgQwtEuHJzHdouWu-- From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 28 19:32:17 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D10916A4CE for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2004 19:32:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from meitner.wh.uni-dortmund.de (meitner.wh.Uni-Dortmund.DE [129.217.129.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 718B643D41 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2004 19:32:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) Received: from lofi.dyndns.org (pc2-105.intern.meitner [10.3.12.105]) by meitner.wh.uni-dortmund.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B5FE1674F9; Sat, 28 Aug 2004 21:32:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from kiste.my.domain (lofi@kiste.my.domain [192.168.8.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by lofi.dyndns.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7SJWA00079206 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 28 Aug 2004 21:32:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) From: Michael Nottebrock To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 21:32:04 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <20040827053643.GB29321@afflictions.org> In-Reply-To: <20040827053643.GB29321@afflictions.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2873004.2mFjuu0aU9"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200408282132.10109.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new cc: Damian Gerow Subject: Re: mplayer/mencoder with bktr(4) device X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 19:32:17 -0000 --nextPart2873004.2mFjuu0aU9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Friday 27 August 2004 07:36, Damian Gerow wrote: > I've got RCA in working just fine with mplayer, and both RCA and S-Video = in > working with fxtv. But I'm having some quality issues with the > de-interlacing of the S-Video input with mplayer -- can anyone give me so= me > pointers? I've tried various -vf's (hqdn3d, lavcdeint, pp, and pullup se= em > to be the best), but the picture is never quite as good as it is with fxt= v. That's not surprising, given that fxtv will simply just throw away one fiel= d=20 if the window is small enough (and perform no deinterlacing at all if you=20 pull it up to full size, i.e., full interlaced glory). I myself use -vf lavcdeint,denoise3d=3D12:9:18 for watching TV and I'm quit= e=20 happy with it. > And there's a noticable difference between RCA and S-Video (on fxtv), so > I'd like to get the latter working properly. Composite video vs. split Y/UV actually should be expected to look differen= t=20 (i.e., S-Video should look better). > Secondly, how does one encode the audio with mencoder? If I'm looking at > the above correctly, there's no support for the audio portion of this chi= p? On my oldish Pinnacle PCTV, I need to connect the external lineout to a=20 line-in on my soundcard to get audio. Recording that audio with mencoder is= =20 just a matter of setting the recording source to the line-in and turning up= =20 the rec mixer ... =2D-=20 ,_, | Michael Nottebrock | lofi@freebsd.org (/^ ^\) | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve | http://www.freebsd.org \u/ | K Desktop Environment on FreeBSD | http://freebsd.kde.org --nextPart2873004.2mFjuu0aU9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBMN26Xhc68WspdLARAmofAJ0fqCyJlKf+ZCk87d0LXa3MAYKkFgCfSgiF VKdnjBNIdLyfbscJOFeYpnY= =tWTy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2873004.2mFjuu0aU9-- From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 28 20:00:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89C3916A4CE for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2004 20:00:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pandora.afflictions.org (asylum.afflictions.org [64.7.134.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1B6C43D7D for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2004 20:00:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dgerow@afflictions.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pandora.afflictions.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3861E78C8D; Sat, 28 Aug 2004 16:05:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dementia.afflictions.org (dementia.afflictions.org [172.19.206.56]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pandora.afflictions.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 631EC78C8C; Sat, 28 Aug 2004 16:05:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dementia.afflictions.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9F8D81700B; Sat, 28 Aug 2004 16:00:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 16:00:02 -0400 From: Damian Gerow To: Michael Nottebrock Message-ID: <20040828200002.GA38908@afflictions.org> References: <20040827053643.GB29321@afflictions.org> <200408282132.10109.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200408282132.10109.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.3-BETA1 on a i386 X-GPG-Fingerprint: B3D7 D901 A53A 1A99 BFD6 E6DF 9F3B 742B C288 9CC9 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at afflictions.org cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mplayer/mencoder with bktr(4) device X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 20:00:44 -0000 Thus spake Michael Nottebrock (michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) [28/08/04 15:37]: : That's not surprising, given that fxtv will simply just throw away one field : if the window is small enough (and perform no deinterlacing at all if you : pull it up to full size, i.e., full interlaced glory). Hmm.... Well, thanks for that. : I myself use -vf lavcdeint,denoise3d=12:9:18 for watching TV and I'm quite : happy with it. I just tried denoise3d and hqdn3d (why denoise3d over hqdn3d?), and both are still providing less-than-optimal resolution. Maybe I'll try another S-Video source, to see if that's the trouble. : On my oldish Pinnacle PCTV, I need to connect the external lineout to a : line-in on my soundcard to get audio. Recording that audio with mencoder is : just a matter of setting the recording source to the line-in and turning up : the rec mixer ... That's what I figured, I'm just completely clueless about recording from a different audio source. (Yes, yes, man mencoder...) From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 28 20:25:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C78916A4CE for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2004 20:25:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from meitner.wh.uni-dortmund.de (meitner.wh.Uni-Dortmund.DE [129.217.129.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA7D543D39 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2004 20:25:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) Received: from lofi.dyndns.org (pc2-105.intern.meitner [10.3.12.105]) by meitner.wh.uni-dortmund.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95F831674F9; Sat, 28 Aug 2004 22:25:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from kiste.my.domain (lofi@kiste.my.domain [192.168.8.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by lofi.dyndns.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7SKPA00079945 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 28 Aug 2004 22:25:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) From: Michael Nottebrock To: Damian Gerow Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 22:25:05 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <20040827053643.GB29321@afflictions.org> <200408282132.10109.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> <20040828200002.GA38908@afflictions.org> In-Reply-To: <20040828200002.GA38908@afflictions.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart54696094.yXdc4YBV2a"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200408282225.09364.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mplayer/mencoder with bktr(4) device X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 20:25:14 -0000 --nextPart54696094.yXdc4YBV2a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Saturday 28 August 2004 22:00, Damian Gerow wrote: > Thus spake Michael Nottebrock (michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) [28/08/04 15:37= ]: > : I myself use -vf lavcdeint,denoise3d=3D12:9:18 for watching TV and I'm > : quite happy with it. > > I just tried denoise3d and hqdn3d (why denoise3d over hqdn3d?), and both > are still providing less-than-optimal resolution. What do you mean by resolution (denoise3d is faster)? FWIW, denoise3d doesn= 't=20 deinterlace, it denoises (i.e., it supposed to lose image details - if you= =20 want a maximally sharp image, don't use it). > : On my oldish Pinnacle PCTV, I need to connect the external lineout to a > : line-in on my soundcard to get audio. Recording that audio with mencoder > : is just a matter of setting the recording source to the line-in and > : turning up the rec mixer ... > > That's what I figured, I'm just completely clueless about recording from a > different audio source. (Yes, yes, man mencoder...) I don't think you _need_ any clue - what device is being recorded from is=20 determined by the mixer setting (which you can set with the mixer command).= =20 There is one parameter for bsdbt848 related to audio source which is audioi= d.=20 I need to set audioid to 1 myself to get stereo sound (example of a=20 commandline I use for grabbing live TV: mencoder -tv=20 driver=3Dbsdbt848:audioid=3D1:norm=3DPAL:chanlist=3Deurope-west:input=3D1:w= idth=3D384:height=3D288:channels=3DSE15-PRO7:channel=3D1:fps=3D25=20 =2Do tv1.avi -ovc lavc -oac mp3lame -lavcopts vcodec=3Dmpeg4:vbitrate=3D800= :vhq=20 =2Dlameopts cbr:br=3D128 tv://) =2D-=20 ,_, | Michael Nottebrock | lofi@freebsd.org (/^ ^\) | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve | http://www.freebsd.org \u/ | K Desktop Environment on FreeBSD | http://freebsd.kde.org --nextPart54696094.yXdc4YBV2a Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBMOolXhc68WspdLARAqXaAJsEDioZNvSRxMgvDTXnZuNNGCA64ACfdw8i vPYLIjQfglotrA8rD873dug= =3Ica -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart54696094.yXdc4YBV2a-- From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 28 21:05:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB50816A4CE for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2004 21:05:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pandora.afflictions.org (asylum.afflictions.org [64.7.134.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58EB743D46 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2004 21:05:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dgerow@afflictions.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pandora.afflictions.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81F5678C8D; Sat, 28 Aug 2004 17:10:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dementia.afflictions.org (dementia.afflictions.org [172.19.206.56]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pandora.afflictions.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6976478C8C; Sat, 28 Aug 2004 17:10:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dementia.afflictions.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id DF0311700B; Sat, 28 Aug 2004 17:04:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 17:04:43 -0400 From: Damian Gerow To: Michael Nottebrock Message-ID: <20040828210443.GC38908@afflictions.org> References: <20040827053643.GB29321@afflictions.org> <200408282132.10109.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> <20040828200002.GA38908@afflictions.org> <200408282225.09364.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200408282225.09364.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.3-BETA1 on a i386 X-GPG-Fingerprint: B3D7 D901 A53A 1A99 BFD6 E6DF 9F3B 742B C288 9CC9 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at afflictions.org cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mplayer/mencoder with bktr(4) device X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 21:05:15 -0000 Thus spake Michael Nottebrock (michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) [28/08/04 16:30]: : What do you mean by resolution (denoise3d is faster)? FWIW, denoise3d doesn't : deinterlace, it denoises (i.e., it supposed to lose image details - if you : want a maximally sharp image, don't use it). I mean that the picture is fuzzy, there's horizontal lines going down the back, the colour's off in places... From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 28 21:26:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D2D416A4CE for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2004 21:26:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from meitner.wh.uni-dortmund.de (meitner.wh.Uni-Dortmund.DE [129.217.129.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1429343D1D for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2004 21:26:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) Received: from lofi.dyndns.org (pc2-105.intern.meitner [10.3.12.105]) by meitner.wh.uni-dortmund.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AC681674F9; Sat, 28 Aug 2004 23:26:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from kiste.my.domain (lofi@kiste.my.domain [192.168.8.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by lofi.dyndns.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7SLQG00080815 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 28 Aug 2004 23:26:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) From: Michael Nottebrock To: Damian Gerow Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 23:26:08 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <20040827053643.GB29321@afflictions.org> <200408282225.09364.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> <20040828210443.GC38908@afflictions.org> In-Reply-To: <20040828210443.GC38908@afflictions.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1422944.ng8C7AcvpS"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200408282326.15520.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mplayer/mencoder with bktr(4) device X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 21:26:19 -0000 --nextPart1422944.ng8C7AcvpS Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Saturday 28 August 2004 23:04, Damian Gerow wrote: > Thus spake Michael Nottebrock (michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) [28/08/04 16:30= ]: > : What do you mean by resolution (denoise3d is faster)? FWIW, denoise3d > : doesn't deinterlace, it denoises (i.e., it supposed to lose image detai= ls > : - if you want a maximally sharp image, don't use it). > > I mean that the picture is fuzzy, there's horizontal lines going down the > back, the colour's off in places... With S-Video? That really sounds like there's something wrong with the vide= o=20 source. Are you using a SCART/S-VIDEO converter perhaps? In that case you'd= =20 might to switch the signal to s-video at the video source first... =2D-=20 ,_, | Michael Nottebrock | lofi@freebsd.org (/^ ^\) | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve | http://www.freebsd.org \u/ | K Desktop Environment on FreeBSD | http://freebsd.kde.org --nextPart1422944.ng8C7AcvpS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBMPh2Xhc68WspdLARAs55AJ0cxgGepftdhfVDWzAVOF1/ERTy4gCgiwFf iAI1tdTDN0AN/OtuDFYHWJY= =UMyi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1422944.ng8C7AcvpS-- From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 28 22:15:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD0E216A4CE for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2004 22:15:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-out.iptelecom.net.ua (mail-out.iptelecom.net.ua [212.9.224.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D05B643D46 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2004 22:15:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vkushnir@i.kiev.ua) Received: from h43.242.159.dialup.iptcom.net ([213.159.242.43]:16835 "EHLO kushnir1.kiev.ua" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "vkushnir") by pechkin.iptelecom.net.ua with ESMTP id S360833AbUH1WPa (INRCPT ); Sun, 29 Aug 2004 01:15:30 +0300 Received: from kushnir1.kiev.ua (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kushnir1.kiev.ua (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i7SMFQA1006324 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 2004 01:15:26 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from vkushnir@i.kiev.ua) Received: by kushnir1.kiev.ua (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id i7SMFPmc006323 for freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org; Sun, 29 Aug 2004 01:15:25 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from vkushnir@i.kiev.ua) X-Authentication-Warning: kushnir1.kiev.ua: vkushnir set sender to vkushnir@i.kiev.ua using -f From: Vladimir Kushnir Organization: BITP To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 01:15:23 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <20040827053643.GB29321@afflictions.org> <200408282132.10109.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <200408282132.10109.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-u" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200408290115.24371.vkushnir@i.kiev.ua> Subject: Re: mplayer/mencoder with bktr(4) device X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 22:15:32 -0000 Sorry for intrusion. Has anybody had any success with mplayer/mencoder + KWorld XPERT TV-PVR 878 (bt878-based)? Personally, all I get is a blue screen (sound works fine, though) no matter what options are chosen. Tried both port and CVS versions with the same result. Both fxtv, and xawtv and nuvrec for recording work perfectly all right. Thanks for any advise, Vladimir