From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 1 11:45:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 395A716A4CE for ; Thu, 1 Jan 2004 11:45:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from google.com (213-84-166-24.adsl.xs4all.nl [213.84.166.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CE99E43D2F for ; Thu, 1 Jan 2004 11:45:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from --|--@indiatimes.com) Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2004 19:49:12 +0000 From: --|-- <--|--@indiatimes.com> To: Freebsd-newbies References: <58L95208D0CB56EA@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <58L95208D0CB56EA@freebsd.org> Message-ID: Sender: Oo.de|oo.de MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Ylk: Your subscribtion has expired! X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: 6898d|6898d <6898d|6898d@polyu.edu.hk> List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2004 19:45:18 -0000 Hey Freebsd-newbies, [The Weekend Pill - Xialis is safer, quicker, lasts longers and has less side effects than V i a g r a] http://whatever.jump4455.com/c/index.php?id=dot Yours truly, 970042476503 From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 1 16:48:04 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BB0116A4CE for ; Thu, 1 Jan 2004 16:48:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from tibor.swiftdsl.com.au (tibor.swiftdsl.com.au [202.154.92.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5B2543D31 for ; Thu, 1 Jan 2004 16:48:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from deviledog@swiftdsl.com.au) Received: (qmail 18536 invoked by uid 33); 2 Jan 2004 00:52:12 -0000 Received: from 61.88.6.90 (SquirrelMail authenticated user deviledog) by webmail.swiftdsl.com.au with HTTP; Fri, 2 Jan 2004 08:52:12 +0800 (WST) Message-ID: <15173.61.88.6.90.1073004732.squirrel@webmail.swiftdsl.com.au> Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 08:52:12 +0800 (WST) From: deviledog@swiftdsl.com.au To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Subject: trouble with booting from 5.2RC2 ISO X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2004 00:48:04 -0000 Hi all, I've had some trouble with booting from the 5.2 ISO I downloaded. Some background (long-winded, but bear with me): I downloaded 5.2RC2 disk1 and 5.2RC2 disk2 with Firebird on Red Hat 9. All seemed well. I scp'd those files to my Mac (Panther) and created dmg's and burned them to a CD. All looked well. I then tried to boot from the CD but it didn't work. I made sure all BIOS settings were set to boot from CD first. I tested with a WinXP install CD and it could boot from cd. I tried the FreeBSD cd on another machine and it failed as well (windows worked). Assuming I had messed up the burning I tried burning on windows with Nero. All looked well, but same result. Finally, I downloaded the mini-5.2RC2 iso thingy from IE on WinXP and burned it with nero and voila I could boot off the cd rom. I then downloaded 4.9 (i'm a newbie afterall and was slowly realizing that 5.2 was not, uh, for me yet!) on my Mac and created a working bootable disk from the ISO. So, my question is: did downloading the 5.2RC2 ISO on Linux mess it up (ascii vs binary maybe - would that give the behavior I described). Maybe the scp killed it? Is 4.9 different than 5.2? (i read something somewhere about emulated el torito vs real el toritos, or something like that). Any insight would be greatly appreciated ... (is this the right list? i'm a newbie but maybe it should go to the questions list?) thanks, august From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 1 20:57:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC8B116A4CE for ; Thu, 1 Jan 2004 20:57:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from web16805.mail.tpe.yahoo.com (web16805.mail.tpe.yahoo.com [202.1.236.145]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C545D43D39 for ; Thu, 1 Jan 2004 20:57:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andrewxwang@yahoo.com.tw) Message-ID: <20040102045757.3750.qmail@web16805.mail.tpe.yahoo.com> Received: from [65.49.81.57] by web16805.mail.tpe.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 02 Jan 2004 12:57:57 CST Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 12:57:57 +0800 (CST) From: =?big5?q?Andrew=20Wang?= To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 01 Jan 2004 21:00:51 -0800 Subject: 4.9-i386-mini.iso vs. 4.9-i386-disc1.iso X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2004 04:57:59 -0000 Hi all, I wanted to try FreeBSD, but there are 2 iso images: 4.9-i386-mini.iso & 4.9-i386-disc1.iso. What I need is a very small system but with cvs, ssh, which one should I download? Also, if I get 4.9-i386-disc1.iso, are there any switches or options during installation that I can use to get the same system as 4.9-i386-mini.iso? Thanks! Andrew. ----------------------------------------------------------------- –ぱ常 Yahoo!集 肅︹稲放荷獺┏瓜 http://tw.promo.yahoo.com/mail_premium/stationery.html From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 2 01:05:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E826816A4CE for ; Fri, 2 Jan 2004 01:05:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from gaff.hhhr.ision.net (gaff.hhhr.ision.net [195.180.9.213]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 632D543D31 for ; Fri, 2 Jan 2004 01:05:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ohoyer@gaff.hhhr.ision.net) Received: from gaff.hhhr.ision.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gaff.hhhr.ision.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i02951OL077648; Fri, 2 Jan 2004 10:05:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ohoyer@gaff.hhhr.ision.net) Received: from localhost (ohoyer@localhost)i02950WE077645; Fri, 2 Jan 2004 10:05:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ohoyer@gaff.hhhr.ision.net) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 10:05:00 +0100 (CET) From: Olaf Hoyer To: =?big5?q?Andrew=20Wang?= In-Reply-To: <20040102045757.3750.qmail@web16805.mail.tpe.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040102100242.H77641@gaff.hhhr.ision.net> References: <20040102045757.3750.qmail@web16805.mail.tpe.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.9-i386-mini.iso vs. 4.9-i386-disc1.iso X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2004 09:05:02 -0000 On Fri, 2 Jan 2004, [big5] Andrew Wang wrote: > Hi all, > > I wanted to try FreeBSD, but there are 2 iso images: > 4.9-i386-mini.iso & 4.9-i386-disc1.iso. > > What I need is a very small system but with cvs, ssh, > which one should I download? Also, if I get > 4.9-i386-disc1.iso, are there any switches or options > during installation that I can use to get the same > system as 4.9-i386-mini.iso? Hi! Well, the only difference between the mini iso and the full one is, that on the full disc1 there are some pre-compiled packages. The base system etc. is exactly the same. So when you have internet access from the box, one should also use the ports system to install software, its the preferred way to go. pre-compiled packages are nice when there is no real internet access or the machine is very slow. so go for the mini.iso Just my 0.02 EUR Olaf -- Olaf Hoyer ohoyer@gaff.hhhr.ision.net Fuerchterliche Erlebniss geben zu raten, ob der, welcher sie erlebt, nicht etwas Fuerchterliches ist. (Nietzsche, Jenseits von Gut und Boese) From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 1 22:19:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FE1216A4CE for ; Thu, 1 Jan 2004 22:19:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 005D243D46 for ; Thu, 1 Jan 2004 22:19:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from drewila@comcast.net) Received: from rose (c-24-12-11-52.client.comcast.net[24.12.11.52]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <2004010206193201400639fpe>; Fri, 2 Jan 2004 06:19:32 +0000 Message-ID: <000a01c3d0f8$64a445a0$0301a8c0@rose> From: "andrew" To: "Andrew Wang" , References: <20040102045757.3750.qmail@web16805.mail.tpe.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 00:19:34 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 02 Jan 2004 04:42:07 -0800 Subject: Re: 4.9-i386-mini.iso vs. 4.9-i386-disc1.iso X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2004 06:19:34 -0000 You can choose what to install during setup, so I suggest you get the full iso. -drew ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Wang" To: Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004 10:57 PM Subject: 4.9-i386-mini.iso vs. 4.9-i386-disc1.iso > Hi all, > > I wanted to try FreeBSD, but there are 2 iso images: > 4.9-i386-mini.iso & 4.9-i386-disc1.iso. > > What I need is a very small system but with cvs, ssh, > which one should I download? Also, if I get > 4.9-i386-disc1.iso, are there any switches or options > during installation that I can use to get the same > system as 4.9-i386-mini.iso? > > Thanks! > Andrew. > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > –ぱ常 Yahoo!集 > 肅︹稲放荷獺┏瓜 > http://tw.promo.yahoo.com/mail_premium/stationery.html > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 2 14:00:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78AF516A4CE for ; Fri, 2 Jan 2004 14:00:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [217.160.230.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D7F143D48 for ; Fri, 2 Jan 2004 14:00:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Soulsurfer@soulsurfersrealm.com) Received: from [217.160.230.52] (helo=smtp.perfora.net) by mout.perfora.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1AcXLi-0007T1-00 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 02 Jan 2004 17:00:54 -0500 Received: from [66.215.200.146] (helo=192.168.1.100) by smtp.perfora.net with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1AcXLg-0002wc-00 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 02 Jan 2004 17:00:53 -0500 From: Tony Allen To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 14:00:53 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200401021400.53883.Soulsurfer@SoulsurfersRealm.com> Subject: cups and foomatic X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2004 22:00:56 -0000 Hi, I'm trying to get my USB hp psc 2110 to work with freebsd and I've run into a wall. At first I thought it was a matter of installing the newest cups and cups-base but then I found out that most drivers weren't in the administration for cups through http://localhost:631. Then I read about foomatic-db and foomatic-db-engine ports. I installed both of those but the correct printer still didn't show up in the cups setup. After being unable to find the answer to the foomatics riddle, I downloaded the ppd file from linuxprinting.org for my printer and copied it to /usr/local/share/cups/model/. I read that I needed foomatic-filters, i.e. - foomatic-rip and foomatic-gswrapper, so i built from source that i downloaded from linuxprinting.org. I copied foomatic-rip and foomatic-gswrapper to /usr/local/bin like the directions i read said to do. (by the way, if you're curious about the directions i read, here's the link: http://webs.tconline.net/softedges/linux/cugbsd4.html ) At any rate, after copying the ppd file, i did see my printer model in the cups setup, but when i try to send a job to it, nothing happens. I set the cupsd.conf to debug and looked at the error_log but couldn't find what was happening wrong. the only thing I saw was that the locale LC_ALL isn't set, so it went to standard locale "C". and the printing ended D [31/Dec/2003:18:26:08 -0800] StopJob: printer state is 3 I'm not sure if 3 is a good state or bad state. I dont want to make the message too long by including my error log, but you can look at part of it at www.soulsurfersrealm.com/error_log I'm not very good at undersatnding everything so I only cut as much out as i thought could be disregarded. One last thing, I'm not sure if i have to do something else to make it work but does the ppd file automatically call for the program it needs, in this case hpijs? Thanks for your help! Tony From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 2 19:10:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 823B616A4CE for ; Fri, 2 Jan 2004 19:10:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4564E43D53 for ; Fri, 2 Jan 2004 19:10:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sue@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (sue@localhost [127.0.0.1]) i033ALFR022612 for ; Fri, 2 Jan 2004 19:10:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sue@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from sue@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i033ALE6022611 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 2 Jan 2004 19:10:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sue) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 19:10:21 -0800 (PST) From: Sue Blake Message-Id: <200401030310.i033ALE6022611@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Newbies FAK X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2004 03:10:40 -0000 FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. It is also available at http://people.freebsd.org/~sue/newbies/fak.html FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. It is particularly important to send all installation questions and answers to FreeBSD-Questions so that they only appear in one place. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for FreeBSD help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. We can help people to use the FreeBSD mailing lists and resources, or to interact more productively with the broader FreeBSD community. These are not support questions, and not technical, so we deal with them here. Everyone can help with these new user orientation requests. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ Mailing list membership To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Use the easy form at http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies to subscribe to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list, or to change your subscription details if you are already a member. To Unsubscribe from FreeBSD-Newbies: To stop receiving list emails, simply follow the unsubscribe link that appears at the bottom of each email you receive from the mailing list. Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org is distributed to all members of the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. _________________________________________________________________