From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 00:10:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC37D16A4CE; Sun, 25 Jan 2004 00:10:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org (nezlok.unixathome.org [66.154.97.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2A3243D45; Sun, 25 Jan 2004 00:10:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@nezlok.unixathome.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F998AE090; Sun, 25 Jan 2004 00:10:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (nezlok.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 94104-02; Sun, 25 Jan 2004 00:10:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 19309AE088; Sun, 25 Jan 2004 00:10:02 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20040125081002.19309AE088@nezlok.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 00:10:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at unixathome.org Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2004-01-04 - 2004-01-24 X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 08:10:14 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. 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Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited The FreeBSD Diary - http://www.FreeBSDDiary.org/ - practical examples FreshPorts - http://www.FreshPorts.org/ - the place for ports FreshSource - http://www.FreshSource.org/ - the place for source From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 01:13:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A66016A4CE for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2004 01:13:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from webmail.akwireless.net (webmail.akwireless.net [192.189.218.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6F4EC43D41 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2004 01:13:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from deem@wdm.com) Received: (qmail 27533 invoked by uid 1020); 25 Jan 2004 09:13:55 -0000 Received: from deem@wdm.com by webmail by uid 1006 with qmail-scanner-1.20 (clamscan: 0.65. Clear:RC:1(127.0.0.1):. Processed in 0.022533 secs); 25 Jan 2004 09:13:55 -0000 X-Scanner-AKW-Mail-From: deem@wdm.com via webmail X-Scanner-AKW: 1.20 (Clear:RC:1(127.0.0.1):. Processed in 0.022533 secs) Received: from unknown (HELO papa.wdm-lan) (127.0.0.1) by 0 with SMTP; 25 Jan 2004 09:13:55 -0000 From: "W.D.McKinney" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1075022577.4709.93.camel@papa.wdm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Rubber Turnip www.usr-local-bin.org Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 00:22:57 -0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: different src dirctory question X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 09:13:57 -0000 I am moving from Linux to FreeBSD on our servers. I would like to install MySQL on on a 4.9 system from ports. How do I tell the make commnad to put the src in /usr/local/src ? Something like : # make --srcdest=/usr/local/src ? Thanks, Dee From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 02:21:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1103F16A4CE for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2004 02:21:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from imhotep.yuckfou.org (cust.89.117.adsl.cistron.nl [195.64.89.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6607643D2D for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2004 02:21:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nivo+sender+3564cf@yuckfou.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imhotep.yuckfou.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 259D230E for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2004 11:25:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from imhotep.yuckfou.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (imhotep.yuckfou.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22514-05 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2004 11:25:22 +0100 (CET) Received: by imhotep.yuckfou.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E4C1130A; Sun, 25 Jan 2004 11:25:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from yuckfou.org (turbata-xp [192.168.2.236]) by localhost.yuckfou.org (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Sun, 25 Jan 2004 11:25:21 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <401398B1.1020501@yuckfou.org> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 11:21:37 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5b) Gecko/20030912 Thunderbird/0.3a X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org References: <1075022577.4709.93.camel@papa.wdm.com> In-Reply-To: <1075022577.4709.93.camel@papa.wdm.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Nils Vogels X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.0 (Cannonade) X-TMDA-Fingerprint: pMEAFY+psIavQTX8QEgsNuJQUeI X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at yuckfou.org Subject: Re: different src dirctory question X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nils Vogels List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 10:21:43 -0000 W.D.McKinney wrote: >I am moving from Linux to FreeBSD on our servers. I would like to >install MySQL on on a 4.9 system from ports. How do I tell the make >commnad to put the src in /usr/local/src ? Something like : > ># make --srcdest=/usr/local/src > > Set the DISTDIR to another directory. It defaults to ${PORTSDIR}/distfiles, but can be set to what you want. In your case .. # make DISTDIR=/usr/local/src should do the trick. HTH & HAND, Nils. -- Simple guidelines to happiness: Work like you don't need the money, love like your heart has never been broken and dance like no one can see you. From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 09:49:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C02F16A4CE for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2004 09:49:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from conure.mail.pas.earthlink.net (conure.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F40A43D31 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2004 09:49:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from dsc06-chc-il-209-109-242-5.rasserver.net ([209.109.242.5] helo=nbritton.org) by conure.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AkoOI-0000wi-00; Sun, 25 Jan 2004 09:49:47 -0800 Message-ID: <401401B7.4030708@nbritton.org> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 11:49:43 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roy O'Grady References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 17:49:53 -0000 Roy O'Grady wrote: >At the risk of getting told to take this question elsewhere.... > >I am a network manager for a small government. Right now, we are using >Novell NetWare for our networking needs, but we are getting ready to try >an open-source solution. The costs of software acquisition and >maintenance has gotten high, and I am hoping that a migration to >something open-source will help us stop the money-bleed. > >How many of you have migrated from something closed-source and >proprietary to something like FreeBSD or linux? What problems did you >run into? How did users react to the change? I guess most importantly, >was it cost effective? > Well I manage everything computer related for a small business (photography & digital imaging studio) and this is what I have done or in the prosess of doing: Backend (Servers & Services): Internet Services: Waverider 900Mhz Wireless link to Internet, This is essentially a wireless T1 and works great for $60/m. For the Firewall I picked m0n0wall (http://www.m0n0.ch/wall/), m0n0wall is a FreeBSD based embedded firewall/gateway/router package that can do just about anything without a lot of fuss. I evaluated lots of the linux based ones but they never seemed to work quite right or where high maintenance from an administrative prospective. I used an old pc, m0n0wall, and 3 new intel pci NICs (LAN, WAN, DMZ for 802.11 AP) for a total cost of $60. Servers: Are server needs are currently simple and we only have one NT4 server box on the network to proform file server and PDC functions but this is changing shortly as we are in the middle of switching to FreeBSD to handle are future needs, that being, running a custom build web based CRM, workflow/tracking, scheduling, inventory, and groupware applications using PHP, Perl, MySQL, LDAP, and Apache. I decided on FreeBSD for many reasons but the biggest reasons are: 1. Its free. 2. I found it to have the best documentation of all the free unix projects (*BSD, Linux, etc), coming from a DOS/Windows background this helps a lot when you have to relearn everything. 3. FreeBSD as a System is very well thought out and controlled, it "just works", as apposed to linux (and windows) witch looks like a big chaotic mess from my prospective (see 2). 4. The FreeBSD ports/package system (see 2 and 3): 5. By Using *BSD you are still able to support the FOSS and Linux movements, I would really love to see Microsoft et al. knocked down a few pegs. 6. The *BSDs are rock soild systems that work like running water, they cant be beat: http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/today/top.avg.html I just bought 3 used IBM Netfinty 3500 servers (PII333Mhz, 256MB Ram), the plan is to scrap two of them for parts/spares and turn the one left over into a Dual PII333Mhz system with 512MB Ram. This box will be more then capable for the job with FreeBSD/Samba/MySQL/PHP/Apache/etc on it. The 3 servers where $90/each, FreeBSD, Samba (Windows File Sharing, PDC), MySQL (RDMS), PHP (Server Side Scripting), and Apache (HTTP Server) $0, total cost $270 I am also entertaining the idea of a terabyte sized RAID 5 array for image archival, currently we burn them to CD and have all types of problems with this. I don't want to go into the details of this but the plan is to have the RAID array on the main server and have a normal PC Offsite (80 acre farm with many buildings on it) with a 802.11 link and a few IDE drives merged into one volume so we can have a backup (ig. rsync) of the RAID array if we ever have a fire, lighting strike, etc. The Projected cost for this project is less then $3000 with the help of FreeBSD and friends, and off the shelf computer parts like IDE Hard drives. *Forgot to say that email services are going to be takin over by the new server with an IMAP web based mail client and sendmail et al. on the server...sendmail et al. $0, MS Exchange $??? To anwser your three questions: 1. Just trying to relearn everything the UNIX way. 2. The network and backend is transparent to users. 3. Yes! Desktop: Workstations: There are no plans to move to linux/bsd on this front until adobe ports photoshop et al. There are no plans to upgrade from windows 2000 to XP etc. When Win2k support is drop by Microsoft (2006ish I think) I will reevaluate are options if photoshop isn't ported yet. Office PCs: Keep using Windows 2000 untill its droped by microsoft then Convert them to FreeBSD or Linux. Applications: Cross platform apps are are my first picks so we can stay flexible when the desktop linux movement takes off (2005 - 2006). With the release of OpenOffice.org 1.1 I removed Mircosoft Office 2000 from all the computers because most of the installs where not licensed anyway. the users didn't have a problem with the software or having to learn it but with the change in general and have gottin over that. we have simple office document needs so coverting are old MS office docs to OOo wasn't a problem. the cost of an MS Office license is $500-$1000, the cost of OOo is $0. I also replaced and removed Internet Explorer with Mozilla 1.4.x, again users where apposed to the change but after the fact liked Mozilla better then IE because of the tab browsing, pop-up blocker, etc. Mozilla $0, IE $0, Not having to deal with Spyware, pop-ups, Viruses, etc. $Priceless. Also with my focus on server based web apps mozilla will become the platform the user interacts with and the operating system we run mozilla on is unimportant as mozilla runs on just about anything, i.g. no software vender lock-in and no hardware platform lock-in. ditto that for OpenOffice, FreeBSD,and Linux. The Audacity Project (http://audacity.sf.net) looks to be a very promising one. I am currently testing 1.2.0-pre3 for are audio editing needs and it works great. I didn't include the costs of time/labor, support staff retraining, building custom apps etc. because those are dependent on other things. This link should help you with all the details: http://news.osdir.com/article292.html > >Thank you in advance for your opinions and time, and if this question >is inappropriate for this list, please accept my apologies. > > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > Hope this help /Nikolas From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 09:57:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E92BE16A4CE for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2004 09:57:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from pike.mail.pike.ru (pike.mail.pike.ru [194.135.18.234]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FA1D43D46 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2004 09:57:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from DerAlSem@inbox.ru) Received: (qmail 82665 invoked from network); 25 Jan 2004 18:02:00 -0000 Received: from deralsem.pikenet.ru (HELO DERALDO) (194.135.17.85) by pike.mail.pike.ru with SMTP; 25 Jan 2004 18:02:00 -0000 Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 20:57:44 +0300 From: DerAlSem X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1456340083.20040125205744@inbox.ru> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Starting 5.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: DerAlSem List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 17:57:58 -0000 Hello freebsd-newbies, So, i've got 5.1, installed and worked. But today, all the electrik power in my house has gone, and both my server and work station (WinXP) has rebooted. But Server didn't start. Recovering Vi Sessions.... I've waited about an hour, then pressed ctrl+c... next some text gone and Starting SSHd... So, about two minutes waiting, and again, ctrl+c. So, the question is, how to make this f@#king Vi start withour recovering it's useless sessions.? -- Best regards, DerAlSem mailto:DerAlSem@inbox.ru From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 10:01:04 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8434B16A4CE for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2004 10:01:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from webmail.akwireless.net (webmail.akwireless.net [192.189.218.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5507F43D78 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2004 10:00:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from deem@wdm.com) Received: (qmail 23989 invoked by uid 1020); 25 Jan 2004 18:00:52 -0000 Received: from deem@wdm.com by webmail by uid 1006 with qmail-scanner-1.20 (clamscan: 0.65. Clear:RC:1(127.0.0.1):. Processed in 0.023718 secs); 25 Jan 2004 18:00:52 -0000 X-Scanner-AKW-Mail-From: deem@wdm.com via webmail X-Scanner-AKW: 1.20 (Clear:RC:1(127.0.0.1):. Processed in 0.023718 secs) Received: from unknown (HELO papa.wdm-lan) (127.0.0.1) by 0 with SMTP; 25 Jan 2004 18:00:52 -0000 From: "W.D.McKinney" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <401398B1.1020501@yuckfou.org> References: <1075022577.4709.93.camel@papa.wdm.com> <401398B1.1020501@yuckfou.org> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1075054203.2350.107.camel@papa.wdm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Rubber Turnip www.usr-local-bin.org Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 09:10:04 -0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: different src dirctory question X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 18:01:04 -0000 On Sun, 2004-01-25 at 01:21, Nils Vogels wrote: > W.D.McKinney wrote: > > >I am moving from Linux to FreeBSD on our servers. I would like to > >install MySQL on on a 4.9 system from ports. How do I tell the make > >commnad to put the src in /usr/local/src ? Something like : > > > ># make --srcdest=/usr/local/src > > > > > Set the DISTDIR to another directory. > > It defaults to ${PORTSDIR}/distfiles, but can be set to what you want. > > In your case .. > > # make DISTDIR=/usr/local/src > > should do the trick. > > HTH & HAND, > > Nils. Hi Nils, I tested on the logrotate package and it put the logrotate rpm it downloaded in /usr/localsrc but the build directory went in ports ? /usr/ports/sysutils/logrotate/work/logrotate-3.5.2 So It looks maybe I did not ask correctly. How would I have made logrotate to be in /usr/local/src/logrotate-3.5.2 ? Thanks, Dee From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 11:06:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61E0A16A4CE for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2004 11:06:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from rdsnet.ro (smtp.rdsnet.ro [62.231.74.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBE1143D1F for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2004 11:06:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from itetcu@apropo.ro) Received: (qmail 29561 invoked from network); 25 Jan 2004 19:06:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO it.buh.cameradicommercio.ro) (81.196.25.19) by mail.rdsnet.ro with SMTP; 25 Jan 2004 19:06:14 -0000 Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 21:07:49 +0200 From: Ion-Mihai Tetcu To: "W.D.McKinney" Message-Id: <20040125210749.3e1599e5@it.buh.cameradicommercio.ro> In-Reply-To: <1075054203.2350.107.camel@papa.wdm.com> References: <1075022577.4709.93.camel@papa.wdm.com> <401398B1.1020501@yuckfou.org> <1075054203.2350.107.camel@papa.wdm.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.8claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: different src dirctory question X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 19:06:18 -0000 On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 09:10:04 -0900 "W.D.McKinney" wrote: > On Sun, 2004-01-25 at 01:21, Nils Vogels wrote: > > W.D.McKinney wrote: > > > > >I am moving from Linux to FreeBSD on our servers. I would like to > > >install MySQL on on a 4.9 system from ports. How do I tell the make > > >commnad to put the src in /usr/local/src ? Something like : > > > > > ># make --srcdest=/usr/local/src > > > > > > > > Set the DISTDIR to another directory. > > > > It defaults to ${PORTSDIR}/distfiles, but can be set to what you want. > > > > In your case .. > > > > # make DISTDIR=/usr/local/src > > > > should do the trick. > > > > HTH & HAND, > > > > Nils. > > Hi Nils, > > I tested on the logrotate package and it put the logrotate rpm it > downloaded in /usr/localsrc but the build directory went in ports ? > /usr/ports/sysutils/logrotate/work/logrotate-3.5.2 > > So It looks maybe I did not ask correctly. > > How would I have made logrotate to be in > /usr/local/src/logrotate-3.5.2 ? Take a look in /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk If I get you right (where you want the build to go) then you are after: # WRKDIRPREFIX - The place to root the temporary working directory # hierarchy (default: none). # WRKDIR - A temporary working directory that gets *clobbered* on clean # (default: ${WRKDIRPREFIX}${.CURDIR}/work). # WRKSRC - A subdirectory of ${WRKDIR} where the distribution actually # unpacks to. (Default: ${WRKDIR}/${DISTNAME} unless # NO_WRKSUBDIR is set, in which case simply ${WRKDIR}). If you want the port to install in another place the use PREFIX=my_place -- IOnut Unregistered ;) FreeBSD user From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 15:03:05 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BEC916A4CE for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2004 15:03:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from amsfep16-int.chello.nl (amsfep16-int.chello.nl [213.46.243.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BFEC43D46 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2004 15:03:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gary@analogrecycling.com) Received: from [24.132.237.88] by amsfep16-int.chello.nl (InterMail vM.6.00.05.02 201-2115-109-103-20031105) with ESMTP id <20040125230300.WBHE1937.amsfep16-int.chello.nl@[24.132.237.88]> for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 00:03:00 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v609) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <9E3CA7F6-4F8A-11D8-B893-000A95B1F4D8@analogrecycling.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org From: Gary from Amsterdam Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 00:02:58 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.609) Subject: FreeBSD on a poweredge 1750 (october 2003 model) X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 23:03:05 -0000 Has anyone got this working? Been trying to install 4.9 but cannot get it bootable... Also searching doesn't provide any answers. 5.2 hangs on the install screen (usb seems to not respond). Want a change from debian personally since I like bsd. gary From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 01:13:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E07A16A4CE for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 01:13:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from server945.gisol.com (server945.gisol.com [207.44.208.108]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F61843D53 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 01:13:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from webmaster@countrypure.net) Received: from 216-229-72-47-dialup-mo.fidnet.com ([216.229.72.47] helo=countrypure.net) by server945.gisol.com with asmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1Al2oL-0005O7-Jz; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 01:13:38 -0800 Message-ID: <4014D9D7.2030305@countrypure.net> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 03:11:51 -0600 From: Quintin Riis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031013 Thunderbird/0.3 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary from Amsterdam References: <9E3CA7F6-4F8A-11D8-B893-000A95B1F4D8@analogrecycling.com> In-Reply-To: <9E3CA7F6-4F8A-11D8-B893-000A95B1F4D8@analogrecycling.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server945.gisol.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - countrypure.net cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD on a poweredge 1750 (october 2003 model) X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 09:13:49 -0000 This is probably better asked on freebsd-questions@freebsd.org or one of the other lists. Quintin Gary from Amsterdam wrote: > Has anyone got this working? > Been trying to install 4.9 but cannot get it bootable... > Also searching doesn't provide any answers. > 5.2 hangs on the install screen (usb seems to not respond). > Want a change from debian personally since I like bsd. > > gary > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 02:45:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CB7916A4CE for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 02:45:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from cuba.globat.com (cuba.globat.com [216.193.201.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D0E443D5F for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 02:45:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@mazenalzogbi.com) Received: from tonga.globat.com (tonga.inside.globat.com [10.1.1.31]) by cuba.globat.com (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with SMTP id i0QBfUWM017535 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 03:41:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@mazenalzogbi.com) Received: (qmail 32758 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2004 10:45:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO MAZEN) (217.165.74.178) by tonga.globat.com with SMTP; 26 Jan 2004 10:45:48 -0000 From: "Mazen S. Alzogbi" To: Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 14:45:17 +0400 Message-ID: <1691D8C9A2220149A8AF30209B5D0EB4A6A903@sc3.shuaacapital.co.ae> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: nOOb: FreeBSD & laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 10:45:52 -0000 Hi, I am sending this to hear what everyone thinks of FreeBSD on laptops. To be honest, I don't want to replace FreeBSD with Linux on my laptop because of many reasons. Yet, I have to admit that I am having all source of troubles with FreeBSD on the laptop but not on the workstation! To be more specific, sound doesn't work (yes, I did recompile the kernel with "device apm" and the conflict happens in IRQ 10 which for some reason many drivers are trying to use and only one of them is succeeding), external mouse is giving me troubles (hanging sometimes), touch pad the same (not working) with KDE or GNOME, internal modem (winmodem) is no working, a bit slow (2.4 GHz with 512 MB RAM machine!!). On the other hand, I cannot describe how neat the same OS (4.9-RELEASE) is working on the desktop, simply, everything is working fast and the system is reliable. Do you care to share me your experience? Thanks. Cheers, Mazen www.MazenAlzogbi.com From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 12 05:28:26 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D036016A4CE for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 05:28:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.gmx.net (imap.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D641E43F85 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 05:28:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sssssrichter@gmx.de) Received: (qmail 26554 invoked by uid 65534); 12 Nov 2003 13:28:24 -0000 Received: from lpzg-d9326863.pool.mediaWays.net (HELO xs4all) (217.50.104.99) by mail.gmx.net (mp007) with SMTP; 12 Nov 2003 14:28:24 +0100 X-Authenticated: #6026383 From: Sven Richter To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20031112143011.4bde15da.sssssrichter@gmx.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.10claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: groups and users X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 13:28:26 -0000 X-Original-Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:30:11 +0100 X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 13:28:26 -0000 Hi, I still have a problem understanding group and user managemant under FreeBsd. Is there a good tutorial to read through? Greets Sven Richter