From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 15 00:10:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C90816A4CE; Sun, 15 Feb 2004 00:10:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org (nezlok.unixathome.org [66.154.97.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 429D443D2F; Sun, 15 Feb 2004 00:10:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@nezlok.unixathome.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EB76AE042; Sun, 15 Feb 2004 00:10:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (nezlok.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 88343-07; Sun, 15 Feb 2004 00:10:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 02CF9AE03B; Sun, 15 Feb 2004 00:10:02 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20040215081002.02CF9AE03B@nezlok.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 00:10:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at unixathome.org Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2004-01-25 - 2004-02-14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 08:10:12 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. 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These are the articles posted during this period: 1-Feb : Bacula: Cross-Platform Client-Server Backups You need this network backup solution. http://freebsddiary.org/bacula.php?2 -- Dan Langille BSDCan - http://www.BSDCan.org/ - BSD Conference From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 15 04:03:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97DAE16A4CF for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2004 04:03:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from bsdjunky.homeunix.org (adsl-217-185-133.owb.bellsouth.net [68.217.185.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3381843D1D for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2004 04:03:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from b_cassidy@bellsouth.net) Received: from bsdjunky.homeunix.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i1FDBNcW002225 for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2004 07:11:23 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from b_cassidy@bellsouth.net) Received: (from b_cassidy@localhost) by bsdjunky.homeunix.org (8.12.9p2/8.12.8/Submit) id i1FDBHDY002224 for newbies@freebsd.org; Sun, 15 Feb 2004 07:11:17 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: bsdjunky.homeunix.org: b_cassidy set sender to b_cassidy@bellsouth.net using -f Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 07:11:17 -0600 From: Bryan Cassidy To: newbies@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040215131117.GB2111@bellsouth.net> Mail-Followup-To: newbies@freebsd.org References: <001601c3f0ce$c32b2620$0500a8c0@bug> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=x-unknown; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <001601c3f0ce$c32b2620$0500a8c0@bug> Sender: b_cassidy@bellsouth.net X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.9 X-Mailer: See User-Agent X-GPG-Keyserver: http://pgp.mit.edu User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: Re: Q: frame buffer video in FreeBSD ??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Bryan Cassidy List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 12:03:39 -0000 --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is exactly what your looking for http://www.freebsdforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=3D&threadid=3D11866&hi= ghlight=3Dvesa On Wed, Feb 11, 2004 at 01:42:12PM -0500, James Lehman wrote: >Hello everyone. > >Like many other people new to FreeBSD, >I come from many years of experience with Linux. > >In Linux we can build the kernel to provide a frame buffer device(s) >/dev/fb0 fb1, fb2... > >This is basically a file descriptor that actually refers to >the memory on the video card. > >Using ioctl system calls to this descriptor gets and sets >resolution and color depth, etc. > >I've written a fairly comprehensive API in C called ezfb. >http://www.akrobiz.com/ezfb/ > >Is there anything like this in FreeBSD? >Is there any way to port this code to FreeBSD? > >Thanks! > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --=20 --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline £›ÀËÌÀ$x;Açïõ”èZÆÓŠI úù_s “ “-ŒsrŠËSsr -Œ¹:ì™YÁj`š™b½L]u3y¿s<ë—ºï߯ÖXTzÀ€a~̇âH¥ƒåŒù*‹sÂL§Vê --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q-- From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 16 02:22:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABB2D16A4CF for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2004 02:22:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from leonis.nus.edu.sg (leonis.nus.edu.sg [137.132.1.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDC4743D1D for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2004 02:22:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stormjumper@myrealbox.com) Received: from lhotse (nusnet-140-246.dynip.nus.edu.sg [137.132.140.246]) by leonis.nus.edu.sg (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id i1GAKijH009300; Mon, 16 Feb 2004 18:20:45 +0800 (SGT) Message-ID: <011201c3f476$8b4b44f0$f68c8489@stf.nus.edu.sg> From: "stormjumper" To: "Ion-Mihai Tetcu" , "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." References: <012e01c3f231$c87a3f80$bf7ba8c0@stf.nus.edu.sg><402D1143.7060502@daleco.biz> <20040213201447.01e4bda4@it.buh.cameradicommercio.ro> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 18:13:26 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 cc: newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how does one upgrade from 4.8 to 4.9 X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 10:22:31 -0000 Thanks to everyone who emailed me directly or responded to this thread for the advice given. In this case, I'll probably wait for FreeBSD 5.x to reach production status and install from scratch. regards ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ion-Mihai Tetcu" To: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." Cc: ; ; Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 02:14 Subject: Re: how does one upgrade from 4.8 to 4.9 > On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 12:02:43 -0600 > "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." wrote: > > > John Murphy wrote: > > > > >"stormjumper" wrote: > > > > > >>hi everyone, > > >> > > >>I'm running FreeBSD 4.8 at the moment, just wondering if someone can point > > >>me to a relevant web-page take explains the process of upgrading to a > > >>different version clearly. > > > > > >See http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.9R/relnotes-i386.html#UPGRADE > > > > > >Which explains that there are two ways, binary or source. It also mentions > > >that you read /usr/src/UPDATING (when you have the new sources) as well. > > > > > >>Is there an issue if i "skip" versions, say from 4.4 to 4.9? or 4.8 to 5.2, > > >>the RELEASE issues notwithstanding? > > > > > >4.4 to 4.9 should be straightforward but 4.8 to 5.2 would be harder, but all > > >possible issues are usually well covered in /usr/src/UPDATING. > > > > > And 4.X to 5.X is recommended *against* by some > > users/community members. A dump of your data > > and a fresh install is better, they say. > > > > Part of the reason is so that you have opportunity > > to switch to ufs2 filesystems; the rest, I'm not sure > > about. > > You will run in some problems because of files left from 4.9, that are > not present and/or have other names in 5.2. It will give you a lot of > manual work to do. > > > -- > IOnut > Unregistered ;) FreeBSD user > > > From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 16 10:58:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24BD816A4CE for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2004 10:58:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from grebe.mail.pas.earthlink.net (grebe.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EB2643D1F for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2004 10:58:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from dsc01-chc-il-209-109-227-235.rasserver.net ([209.109.227.235] helo=nbritton.org) by grebe.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AsnwM-0000CN-00; Mon, 16 Feb 2004 10:57:58 -0800 Message-ID: <403112B4.1080801@nbritton.org> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 12:57:56 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DerAlSem , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org References: <9810709762.20040215031601@inbox.ru> <40305B6B.9030608@nbritton.org> <995841125.20040216154554@inbox.ru> In-Reply-To: <995841125.20040216154554@inbox.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 5.2.1 RC? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 18:58:03 -0000 DerAlSem wrote: >Hello Nikolas, > >Monday, February 16, 2004, 8:55:55 AM, you wrote: > >NB> DerAlSem wrote: > > > >>>Hello freebsd-newbies, >>> >>> I want latest release of FreeBSD. >>> 5.2.1-RC2-i386-disc1.iso - RC2 stands for Release Candidate 2? Does >>> anyone knows, when it'll become Master? >>> >>> >>> >NB> FreeBSD 5.2.1 will be release in a week or two. 5.2.1 is being released >NB> because of some bugs in 5.2 that went unnoticed. Because it's based on >NB> 5.2 code and not the the current cvs head you should be able to safely >NB> use the RC now and just CVSup to 5.2.1 when released. > >Hm, i'n using 5.1 now... Just few net-servers (ftp,www,irc, and home >NAT). And as a newbie, a don't know about CVS... man cvs, am i right? > not the man pages, read the following from the FreeBSD Handbook, after read you should be able to use CVSup, upgrade the whole system (tracking current or stable), install/upgrade ports, and install/update Kernels and no you don't have to know everything by heart, skim through all if it then bookmark/print/makenotes of the key info. Start with the ports system, then the kernel, and then building world. Appendix A.5 Using CVSup: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html Chapter 21 The Cutting Edge: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge.html Chapter 9 Configuring the FreeBSD Kernels: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig.html Chapter 4 Installing Applications: Packages and Ports: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports.html > >NB> BTW: FreeBSD 4.9 is the lastest "Production" Release. The 5.0, 5.1, and >NB> 5.2.x releases are still considered beta. > >But 5.0 and 5.1 and 5.2 as far as i know is in "RELEASE" status. I >thought, it's mean, that i can use them, and they are free of bugs and >security holes. > Yes you can use it and it should work perfect for you, but the code is untested. So 4.9 is still recommended for mission critical deployments. Read this, It explains a lot of thing about the *BSDs: http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/rants/bsd4linux/bsd4linux1.php > >NB> More info why 5.2.1 was cut: >NB> http://www.bsdforums.org/forums/showthread.php?threadid=18954 >NB> http://www.bsdforums.org/forums/showthread.php?threadid=18471 > >O, great thank for info! > > > > From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 16 11:16:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE89816A4CE; Mon, 16 Feb 2004 11:16:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from hijra.homeunix.com (adsl-67-65-130-138.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [67.65.130.138]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A648A43D2D; Mon, 16 Feb 2004 11:16:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tweaxor@hijra.homeunix.com) Received: by hijra.homeunix.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 12B62FBA; Mon, 16 Feb 2004 12:31:28 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 12:31:28 -0600 From: Tweax Daemon To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040216183128.GA4019@hijra.homeunix.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Mailer: Mutt http//www.mutt.org X-GeekCode: 01001101 01110101 01110100 01110100 X-Quote: Justing having phun, Open Source Computing!! cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: phpMyAdmin not loading MySQL extensions X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 19:16:46 -0000 --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Hey all, I'm having trouble configuring phpMyAdmin. I guess from when I try to view it in a browser I get the message unable to load mysql extensions the msql link re-directs me to the phpmyadmin site where its states about it can't load mysql.so which is on my system I tried placing it in the same directory but that didn't work. Changing many things in the config.inc.php file but I still get the same error. Has anyone been successful at getting phpMyAdmin to work on FreeBSD 4.8, if so please info me -- \ ||| / ++Pat | (o o) ++hijra.homeunix.com | ----oo0-(_)-0oo---- ++To err is human, to forgive, beyond the scope of the Operating System. GPG Fingerprint: 3D9B BDB8 E5AD 7F0C DA1D 299E DCE8 9915 44B9 005C --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="config.inc.php" = 4.3.0) $cfg['Servers'][$i]['controluser'] = ''; // MySQL control user settings // (this user must have read-only $cfg['Servers'][$i]['controlpass'] = ''; // access to the "mysql/user" // and "mysql/db" tables) $cfg['Servers'][$i]['auth_type'] = 'cookie'; // Authentication method (config, http or cookie based)? $cfg['Servers'][$i]['user'] = ''; // MySQL user $cfg['Servers'][$i]['password'] = ''; // MySQL password (only needed // with 'config' auth_type) $cfg['Servers'][$i]['only_db'] = ''; // If set to a db-name, only // this db is displayed // at left frame // It may also be an array // of db-names $cfg['Servers'][$i]['verbose'] = ''; // Verbose name for this host - leave blank to show the hostname $cfg['Servers'][$i]['pmadb'] = 'phpmyadmin'; // Database used for Relation, Bookmark and PDF Features // (see scripts/create_tables.sql) // - leave blank for no support // DEFAULT: 'phpmyadmin' $cfg['Servers'][$i]['bookmarktable'] = ''; // Bookmark table // - leave blank for no bookmark support // DEFAULT: 'PMA_bookmark' $cfg['Servers'][$i]['relation'] = ''; // table to describe the relation between links (see doc) // - leave blank for no relation-links support // DEFAULT: 'PMA_relation' $cfg['Servers'][$i]['table_info'] = ''; // table to describe the display fields // - leave blank for no display fields support // DEFAULT: 'PMA_table_info' $cfg['Servers'][$i]['table_coords'] = ''; // table to describe the tables position for the PDF schema // - leave blank for no PDF schema support // DEFAULT: 'PMA_table_coords' $cfg['Servers'][$i]['pdf_pages'] = ''; // table to describe pages of relationpdf // - leave blank if you don't want to use this // DEFAULT: 'PMA_pdf_pages' $cfg['Servers'][$i]['column_info'] = ''; // table to store column information // - leave blank for no column comments/mime types // DEFAULT: 'PMA_column_info' $cfg['Servers'][$i]['history'] = ''; // table to store SQL history // - leave blank for no SQL query history // DEFAULT: 'PMA_history' $cfg['Servers'][$i]['verbose_check'] = TRUE; // set to FALSE if you know that your PMA_* tables // are up to date. This prevents compatibility // checks and thereby increases performance. $cfg['Servers'][$i]['AllowDeny']['order'] // Host authentication order, leave blank to not use = ''; $cfg['Servers'][$i]['AllowDeny']['rules'] // Host authentication rules, leave blank for defaults = array(); $i++; $cfg['Servers'][$i]['host'] = ''; $cfg['Servers'][$i]['port'] = ''; $cfg['Servers'][$i]['socket'] = ''; $cfg['Servers'][$i]['connect_type'] = 'tcp'; $cfg['Servers'][$i]['compress'] = FALSE; $cfg['Servers'][$i]['controluser'] = ''; $cfg['Servers'][$i]['controlpass'] = ''; $cfg['Servers'][$i]['auth_type'] = 'config'; $cfg['Servers'][$i]['user'] = 'root'; $cfg['Servers'][$i]['password'] = ''; $cfg['Servers'][$i]['only_db'] = ''; $cfg['Servers'][$i]['verbose'] = ''; $cfg['Servers'][$i]['pmadb'] = ''; // 'phpmyadmin' - see scripts/create_tables.sql $cfg['Servers'][$i]['bookmarktable'] = ''; // 'PMA_bookmark' $cfg['Servers'][$i]['relation'] = ''; // 'PMA_relation' $cfg['Servers'][$i]['table_info'] = ''; // 'PMA_table_info' $cfg['Servers'][$i]['table_coords'] = ''; // 'PMA_table_coords' $cfg['Servers'][$i]['pdf_pages'] = ''; // 'PMA_pdf_pages' $cfg['Servers'][$i]['column_info'] = ''; // 'PMA_column_info' $cfg['Servers'][$i]['history'] = ''; // 'PMA_history' $cfg['Servers'][$i]['verbose_check'] = TRUE; $cfg['Servers'][$i]['AllowDeny']['order'] = ''; $cfg['Servers'][$i]['AllowDeny']['rules'] = array(); $i++; $cfg['Servers'][$i]['host'] = ''; $cfg['Servers'][$i]['port'] = ''; $cfg['Servers'][$i]['socket'] = ''; $cfg['Servers'][$i]['connect_type'] = 'tcp'; $cfg['Servers'][$i]['compress'] = FALSE; $cfg['Servers'][$i]['controluser'] = ''; $cfg['Servers'][$i]['controlpass'] = ''; $cfg['Servers'][$i]['auth_type'] = 'config'; $cfg['Servers'][$i]['user'] = 'root'; $cfg['Servers'][$i]['password'] = ''; $cfg['Servers'][$i]['only_db'] = ''; $cfg['Servers'][$i]['verbose'] = ''; $cfg['Servers'][$i]['pmadb'] = ''; // 'phpmyadmin' - see scripts/create_tables.sql $cfg['Servers'][$i]['bookmarktable'] = ''; // 'PMA_bookmark' $cfg['Servers'][$i]['relation'] = ''; // 'PMA_relation' $cfg['Servers'][$i]['table_info'] = ''; // 'PMA_table_info' $cfg['Servers'][$i]['table_coords'] = ''; // 'PMA_table_coords' $cfg['Servers'][$i]['pdf_pages'] = ''; // 'PMA_pdf_pages' $cfg['Servers'][$i]['column_info'] = ''; // 'PMA_column_info' $cfg['Servers'][$i]['history'] = ''; // 'PMA_history' $cfg['Servers'][$i]['verbose_check'] = TRUE; $cfg['Servers'][$i]['AllowDeny']['order'] = ''; $cfg['Servers'][$i]['AllowDeny']['rules'] = array(); // If you have more than one server configured, you can set $cfg['ServerDefault'] // to any one of them to autoconnect to that server when phpMyAdmin is started, // or set it to 0 to be given a list of servers without logging in // If you have only one server configured, $cfg['ServerDefault'] *MUST* be // set to that server. $cfg['ServerDefault'] = 1; // Default server (0 = no default server) $cfg['Server'] = ''; unset($cfg['Servers'][0]); /** * Other core phpMyAdmin settings */ $cfg['OBGzip'] = 'auto'; // use GZIP output buffering if possible (TRUE|FALSE|'auto') $cfg['PersistentConnections'] = FALSE; // use persistent connections to MySQL database $cfg['ExecTimeLimit'] = 300; // maximum execution time in seconds (0 for no limit) $cfg['SkipLockedTables'] = FALSE; // mark used tables, make possible to show // locked tables (since MySQL 3.23.30) $cfg['ShowSQL'] = TRUE; // show SQL queries as run $cfg['AllowUserDropDatabase'] = FALSE; // show a 'Drop database' link to normal users $cfg['Confirm'] = TRUE; // confirm 'DROP TABLE' & 'DROP DATABASE' $cfg['LoginCookieRecall'] = TRUE; // recall previous login in cookie auth. mode or not $cfg['UseDbSearch'] = TRUE; // whether to enable the "database search" feature // or not // Left frame setup $cfg['LeftFrameLight'] = TRUE; // use a select-based menu and display only the // current tables in the left frame. $cfg['LeftFrameTableSeparator']= '__'; // Which string will be used to generate table prefixes // to split tables into multiple categories $cfg['LeftFrameTableLevel'] = '1'; // How many sublevels should be displayed when splitting // up tables by the above Separator $cfg['ShowTooltip'] = TRUE; // display table comment as tooltip in left frame $cfg['ShowTooltipAliasDB'] = FALSE; // if ShowToolTip is enabled, this defines that table/db comments $cfg['ShowTooltipAliasTB'] = FALSE; // are shown (in the left menu and db_details_structure) instead of // table/db names $cfg['LeftDisplayLogo'] = TRUE; // display logo at top of left frame $cfg['LeftDisplayServers'] = FALSE; // display server choice at top of left frame // In the main frame, at startup... $cfg['ShowStats'] = TRUE; // allow to display statistics and space usage in // the pages about database details and table // properties $cfg['ShowMysqlInfo'] = FALSE; // whether to display the "MySQL runtime $cfg['ShowMysqlVars'] = FALSE; // information", "MySQL system variables", "PHP $cfg['ShowPhpInfo'] = FALSE; // information" and "change password" links for $cfg['ShowChgPassword'] = FALSE; // simple users or not $cfg['SuggestDBName'] = TRUE; // suggest a new DB name if possible (false = keep empty) // In browse mode... $cfg['ShowBlob'] = FALSE; // display blob field contents $cfg['NavigationBarIconic'] = TRUE; // do not display text inside navigation bar buttons $cfg['ShowAll'] = FALSE; // allows to display all the rows $cfg['MaxRows'] = 30; // maximum number of rows to display $cfg['Order'] = 'ASC'; // default for 'ORDER BY' clause (valid // values are 'ASC', 'DESC' or 'SMART' -ie // descending order for fields of type // TIME, DATE, DATETIME & TIMESTAMP, // ascending order else-) // In edit mode... $cfg['ProtectBinary'] = 'blob'; // disallow editing of binary fields // valid values are: // FALSE allow editing // 'blob' allow editing except for BLOB fields // 'all' disallow editing $cfg['ShowFunctionFields'] = TRUE; // Display the function fields in edit/insert mode $cfg['CharEditing'] = 'input'; // Which editor should be used for CHAR/VARCHAR fields: // input - allows limiting of input length // textarea - allows newlines in fields // For the export features... $cfg['ZipDump'] = TRUE; // Allow the use of zip/gzip/bzip $cfg['GZipDump'] = TRUE; // compression for $cfg['BZipDump'] = TRUE; // dump files // Tabs display settings $cfg['LightTabs'] = FALSE; // use graphically less intense menu tabs $cfg['DefaultTabServer'] = 'main.php'; // Possible values: // 'main.php' = the welcome page // (recommended for multiuser setups) // 'server_databases.php' = list of databases // 'server_status.php' = runtime information // 'server_variables.php' = MySQL server variables // 'server_privileges.php' = user management // 'server_processlist.php' = process list $cfg['DefaultTabDatabase'] = 'db_details_structure.php'; // Possible values: // 'db_details_structure.php' = tables list // 'db_details.php' = sql form // 'db_search.php' = search query $cfg['DefaultTabTable'] = 'tbl_properties_structure.php'; // Possible values: // 'tbl_properties_structure.php' = fields list // 'tbl_properties.php' = sql form // 'tbl_select.php = select page // 'tbl_change.php = insert row page /** * Export defaults */ $cfg['Export']['format'] = 'sql'; // sql/latex/excel/csv/xml $cfg['Export']['compression'] = 'none'; // none/zip/gzip/bzip2 $cfg['Export']['asfile'] = FALSE; $cfg['Export']['onserver'] = FALSE; $cfg['Export']['onserver_overwrite'] = FALSE; $cfg['Export']['remember_file_template'] = TRUE; $cfg['Export']['csv_columns'] = FALSE; $cfg['Export']['csv_null'] = 'NULL'; $cfg['Export']['csv_separator'] = ';'; $cfg['Export']['csv_enclosed'] = '"'; $cfg['Export']['csv_escaped'] = '\\'; $cfg['Export']['csv_terminated'] = 'AUTO'; $cfg['Export']['excel_null'] = 'NULL'; $cfg['Export']['latex_structure'] = TRUE; $cfg['Export']['latex_data'] = TRUE; $cfg['Export']['latex_columns'] = TRUE; $cfg['Export']['latex_relation'] = TRUE; $cfg['Export']['latex_comments'] = TRUE; $cfg['Export']['latex_mime'] = TRUE; $cfg['Export']['latex_null'] = '\textit{NULL}'; $cfg['Export']['sql_structure'] = TRUE; $cfg['Export']['sql_data'] = TRUE; $cfg['Export']['sql_drop_database'] = FALSE; $cfg['Export']['sql_drop_table'] = FALSE; $cfg['Export']['sql_auto_increment'] = TRUE; $cfg['Export']['sql_backquotes'] = TRUE; $cfg['Export']['sql_relation'] = FALSE; $cfg['Export']['sql_columns'] = FALSE; $cfg['Export']['sql_extended'] = FALSE; $cfg['Export']['sql_comments'] = FALSE; $cfg['Export']['sql_mime'] = FALSE; /** * Link to the official MySQL documentation. * Be sure to include no trailing slash on the path. * See http://www.mysql.com/documentation/index.html for more information * about MySQL manuals and their types. */ $cfg['MySQLManualBase'] = 'http://www.mysql.com/doc/en'; /** * Type of MySQL documentation: * old - old style used in phpMyAdmin 2.3.0 and sooner * searchable - "Searchable, with user comments" * chapters - "HTML, one page per chapter" * big - "HTML, all on one page" * none - do not show documentation links */ $cfg['MySQLManualType'] = 'searchable'; /** * PDF options */ $cfg['PDFPageSizes'] = array('A3', 'A4', 'A5', 'letter', 'legal'); $cfg['PDFDefaultPageSize'] = 'A4'; /** * Language and charset conversion settings */ // Default language to use, if not browser-defined or user-defined $cfg['DefaultLang'] = 'en-iso-8859-1'; // Force: always use this language - must be defined in // libraries/select_lang.lib.php // $cfg['Lang'] = 'en-iso-8859-1'; // Default charset to use for recoding of MySQL queries, does not take // any effect when charsets recoding is switched off by // $cfg['AllowAnywhereRecoding'] or in language file // (see $cfg['AvailableCharsets'] to possible choices, you can add your own) $cfg['DefaultCharset'] = 'iso-8859-1'; // Allow charset recoding of MySQL queries, must be also enabled in language // file to make harder using other language files than unicode. // Default value is FALSE to avoid problems on servers without the iconv // extension and where dl() is not supported $cfg['AllowAnywhereRecoding'] = FALSE; // You can select here which functions will be used for charset conversion. // Possible values are: // auto - automatically use available one (first is tested iconv, then // recode) // iconv - use iconv or libiconv functions // recode - use recode_string function $cfg['RecodingEngine'] = 'auto'; // Specify some parameters for iconv used in charset conversion. See iconv // documentation for details: // http://www.gnu.org/software/libiconv/documentation/libiconv/iconv_open.3.html $cfg['IconvExtraParams'] = ''; // Available charsets for MySQL conversion. currently contains all which could // be found in lang/* files and few more. // Charsets will be shown in same order as here listed, so if you frequently // use some of these move them to the top. $cfg['AvailableCharsets'] = array( 'iso-8859-1', 'iso-8859-2', 'iso-8859-3', 'iso-8859-4', 'iso-8859-5', 'iso-8859-6', 'iso-8859-7', 'iso-8859-8', 'iso-8859-9', 'iso-8859-10', 'iso-8859-11', 'iso-8859-12', 'iso-8859-13', 'iso-8859-14', 'iso-8859-15', 'windows-1250', 'windows-1251', 'windows-1252', 'windows-1257', 'koi8-r', 'big5', 'gb2312', 'utf-8', 'utf-7', 'x-user-defined', 'euc-jp', 'ks_c_5601-1987', 'tis-620', 'SHIFT_JIS' ); // Loads language file require('./libraries/select_lang.lib.php'); /** * Customization & design */ $cfg['LeftWidth'] = 150; // left frame width $cfg['LeftBgColor'] = '#D0DCE0'; // background color for the left frame $cfg['RightBgColor'] = '#F5F5F5'; // background color for the right frame $cfg['RightBgImage'] = ''; // path to a background image for the right frame // (leave blank for no background image) $cfg['LeftPointerColor'] = '#CCFFCC'; // color of the pointer in left frame // (blank for no pointer) $cfg['Border'] = 0; // border width on tables $cfg['ThBgcolor'] = '#D3DCE3'; // table header row colour $cfg['BgcolorOne'] = '#CCCCCC'; // table data row colour $cfg['BgcolorTwo'] = '#DDDDDD'; // table data row colour, alternate $cfg['BrowsePointerColor'] = '#CCFFCC'; // color of the pointer in browse mode // (blank for no pointer) $cfg['BrowseMarkerColor'] = '#FFCC99'; // color of the marker (visually marks row // by clicking on it) in browse mode // (blank for no marker) $cfg['TextareaCols'] = 40; // textarea size (columns) in edit mode // (this value will be emphasized (*2) for sql // query textareas and (*1.25) for query window) $cfg['TextareaRows'] = 7; // textarea size (rows) in edit mode $cfg['LongtextDoubleTextarea'] = TRUE; // double size of textarea size for longtext fields $cfg['TextareaAutoSelect'] = TRUE; // autoselect when clicking in the textarea of the querybox $cfg['CharTextareaCols'] = 40; // textarea size (columns) for CHAR/VARCHAR $cfg['CharTextareaRows'] = 2; // textarea size (rows) for CHAR/VARCHAR $cfg['CtrlArrowsMoving'] = TRUE; // Enable Ctrl+Arrows moving between fields when editing? $cfg['LimitChars'] = 50; // Max field data length in browse mode for all non-numeric fields $cfg['ModifyDeleteAtLeft'] = TRUE; // show edit/delete links on left side of browse // (or at the top with vertical browse) $cfg['ModifyDeleteAtRight'] = FALSE; // show edit/delete links on right side of browse // (or at the bottom with vertical browse) $cfg['DefaultDisplay'] = 'horizontal'; // default display direction // (horizontal|vertical|horizontalflipped) $cfg['DefaultPropDisplay'] = 'horizontal'; // default display direction for altering/ // creating columns (tbl_properties) // (horizontal|vertical) $cfg['HeaderFlipType'] = 'css'; // table-header rotation via faking or css? (css|fake) // NOTE: CSS only works in IE browsers! $cfg['ShowBrowseComments'] = TRUE; // shows stored relation-comments in 'browse' mode. $cfg['ShowPropertyComments']= TRUE; // shows stored relation-comments in 'table property' mode. $cfg['RepeatCells'] = 100; // repeat header names every X cells? (0 = deactivate) $cfg['QueryFrame'] = TRUE; // displays a new frame where a link to a querybox is always displayed. $cfg['QueryFrameJS'] = TRUE; // whether to use JavaScript functions for opening a new window for SQL commands. // if set to 'false', the target of the querybox is always the right frame. $cfg['QueryFrameDebug'] = FALSE; // display JS debugging link (DEVELOPERS only) $cfg['QueryWindowWidth'] = 550; // Width of Query window $cfg['QueryWindowHeight'] = 310; // Height of Query window $cfg['QueryHistoryDB'] = FALSE; // Set to TRUE if you want DB-based query history. // If FALSE, this utilizes JS-routines to display // query history (lost by window close) $cfg['QueryWindowDefTab'] = 'sql'; // which tab to display in the querywindow on startup // (sql|files|history|full) $cfg['QueryHistoryMax'] = 25; // When using DB-based query history, how many entries // should be kept? $cfg['BrowseMIME'] = TRUE; // Use MIME-Types (stored in column comments table) for $cfg['MaxExactCount'] = 20000; // When approximate count < this, PMA will get exact count for // table rows. $cfg['WYSIWYG-PDF'] = TRUE; // Utilize DHTML/JS capabilities to allow WYSIWYG editing of // the PDF page editor. Requires an IE6/Mozilla based browser. /** * SQL Query box settings * These are the links display in all of the SQL Query boxes */ $cfg['SQLQuery']['Edit'] = TRUE; // Edit link to change a query $cfg['SQLQuery']['Explain'] = TRUE; // EXPLAIN on SELECT queries $cfg['SQLQuery']['ShowAsPHP'] = TRUE; // Wrap a query in PHP $cfg['SQLQuery']['Validate'] = FALSE; // Validate a query (see $cfg['SQLValidator'] as well) /** * web-server upload directory */ $cfg['UploadDir'] = ''; // for example, './upload/'; you must end it with // a slash, and you leave it empty for no upload // directory $cfg['SaveDir'] = ''; // for example, './save/'; you must end it with // a slash, and you leave it empty for no save // directory /** * Misc. settings */ $cfg['GD2Available'] = 'auto'; // Is GD >= 2 available? Set to yes/no/auto. 'auto' // does autodetection, which is a bit expensive for // php < 4.3.0, but it is the only safe vay how to // determine GD version. /** * SQL Parser Settings */ $cfg['SQP']['fmtType'] = 'html'; // Pretty-printing style to use on queries (html, text, none) $cfg['SQP']['fmtInd'] = '1'; // Amount to indent each level (floats ok) $cfg['SQP']['fmtIndUnit'] = 'em'; // Units for indenting each level (CSS Types - {em,px,pt}) $cfg['SQP']['fmtColor'] = array( // Syntax colouring data 'comment' => '#808000', 'comment_mysql' => '', 'comment_ansi' => '', 'comment_c' => '', 'digit' => '', 'digit_hex' => 'teal', 'digit_integer' => 'teal', 'digit_float' => 'aqua', 'punct' => 'fuchsia', 'alpha' => '', 'alpha_columnType' => '#FF9900', 'alpha_columnAttrib' => '#0000FF', 'alpha_reservedWord' => '#990099', 'alpha_functionName' => '#FF0000', 'alpha_identifier' => 'black', 'alpha_variable' => '#800000', 'quote' => '#008000', 'quote_double' => '', 'quote_single' => '', 'quote_backtick' => '' ); /** * If you wish to use the SQL Validator service, you should be * aware of the following: * All SQL statements are stored anonymously for statistical purposes. * Mimer SQL Validator, Copyright 2002 Upright Database Technology. * All rights reserved. */ $cfg['SQLValidator']['use'] = FALSE; // Make the SQL Validator available $cfg['SQLValidator']['username'] = ''; // If you have a custom username, specify it here (defaults to anonymous) $cfg['SQLValidator']['password'] = ''; // Password for username /** * Developers ONLY! * To use the following, please install the DBG extension from http://dd.cron.ru/dbg/ */ $cfg['DBG']['enable'] = FALSE; // Make the DBG stuff available $cfg['DBG']['profile']['enable'] = FALSE; // Produce profiling results of PHP $cfg['DBG']['profile']['threshold'] = 0.5; // Threshold of long running code to display // Anything below the threshold is not displayed /** * MySQL settings */ // Column types; // varchar, tinyint, text and date are listed first, based on estimated popularity $cfg['ColumnTypes'] = array( 'VARCHAR', 'TINYINT', 'TEXT', 'DATE', 'SMALLINT', 'MEDIUMINT', 'INT', 'BIGINT', 'FLOAT', 'DOUBLE', 'DECIMAL', 'DATETIME', 'TIMESTAMP', 'TIME', 'YEAR', 'CHAR', 'TINYBLOB', 'TINYTEXT', 'BLOB', 'MEDIUMBLOB', 'MEDIUMTEXT', 'LONGBLOB', 'LONGTEXT', 'ENUM', 'SET' ); // Atributes $cfg['AttributeTypes'] = array( '', 'BINARY', 'UNSIGNED', 'UNSIGNED ZEROFILL' ); // Available functions if ($cfg['ShowFunctionFields']) { $cfg['Functions'] = array( 'ASCII', 'CHAR', 'SOUNDEX', 'LCASE', 'UCASE', 'NOW', 'PASSWORD', 'MD5', 'ENCRYPT', 'RAND', 'LAST_INSERT_ID', 'COUNT', 'AVG', 'SUM', 'CURDATE', 'CURTIME', 'FROM_DAYS', 'FROM_UNIXTIME', 'PERIOD_ADD', 'PERIOD_DIFF', 'TO_DAYS', 'UNIX_TIMESTAMP', 'USER', 'WEEKDAY', 'CONCAT' ); // Which column types will be mapped to which Group? $cfg['RestrictColumnTypes'] = array( 'VARCHAR' => 'FUNC_CHAR', 'TINYINT' => 'FUNC_NUMBER', 'TEXT' => 'FUNC_CHAR', 'DATE' => 'FUNC_DATE', 'SMALLINT' => 'FUNC_NUMBER', 'MEDIUMINT' => 'FUNC_NUMBER', 'INT' => 'FUNC_NUMBER', 'BIGINT' => 'FUNC_NUMBER', 'FLOAT' => 'FUNC_NUMBER', 'DOUBLE' => 'FUNC_NUMBER', 'DECIMAL' => 'FUNC_NUMBER', 'DATETIME' => 'FUNC_DATE', 'TIMESTAMP' => 'FUNC_DATE', 'TIME' => 'FUNC_DATE', 'YEAR' => 'FUNC_DATE', 'CHAR' => 'FUNC_CHAR', 'TINYBLOB' => 'FUNC_CHAR', 'TINYTEXT' => 'FUNC_CHAR', 'BLOB' => 'FUNC_CHAR', 'MEDIUMBLOB' => 'FUNC_CHAR', 'MEDIUMTEXT' => 'FUNC_CHAR', 'LONGBLOB' => 'FUNC_CHAR', 'LONGTEXT' => 'FUNC_CHAR', 'ENUM' => '', 'SET' => '' ); // Map above defined groups to any function $cfg['RestrictFunctions'] = array( 'FUNC_CHAR' => array( 'ASCII', 'CHAR', 'SOUNDEX', 'LCASE', 'UCASE', 'PASSWORD', 'MD5', 'ENCRYPT', 'LAST_INSERT_ID', 'USER', 'CONCAT' ), 'FUNC_DATE' => array( 'NOW', 'CURDATE', 'CURTIME', 'FROM_DAYS', 'FROM_UNIXTIME', 'PERIOD_ADD', 'PERIOD_DIFF', 'TO_DAYS', 'UNIX_TIMESTAMP', 'WEEKDAY' ), 'FUNC_NUMBER' => array( 'ASCII', 'CHAR', 'MD5', 'ENCRYPT', 'RAND', 'LAST_INSERT_ID', 'COUNT', 'AVG', 'SUM' ) ); } // end if /** * Unset magic_quotes_runtime - do not change! */ set_magic_quotes_runtime(0); /** * File Revision - do not change either! */ $cfg['FileRevision'] = '$Revision: 1.192 $'; ?> --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g-- From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 16 11:24:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41F2216A4CF for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2004 11:24:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from grebe.mail.pas.earthlink.net (grebe.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C2E943D2D for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2004 11:24:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from dsc01-chc-il-209-109-227-235.rasserver.net ([209.109.227.235] helo=nbritton.org) by grebe.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AsoLs-0007cW-00 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Feb 2004 11:24:21 -0800 Message-ID: <403118E3.40807@nbritton.org> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 13:24:19 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: OT: Mozilla and mailling lists X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 19:24:22 -0000 Is there an easy way to get mozilla to automaticly reply to the list instead of the persons email address? From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 16 12:14:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08BF016A4CE; Mon, 16 Feb 2004 12:14:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46CB543D1D; Mon, 16 Feb 2004 12:14:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) i1GKEdoH095514 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 16 Feb 2004 20:14:39 GMT (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)id i1GKEdlo095513; Mon, 16 Feb 2004 20:14:39 GMT (envelope-from matthew) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 20:14:39 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040216201439.GA95204@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20040216183128.GA4019@hijra.homeunix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040216183128.GA4019@hijra.homeunix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: phpMyAdmin not loading MySQL extensions X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 20:14:47 -0000 --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 12:31:28PM -0600, Tweax Daemon wrote: > =20 > I'm having trouble configuring phpMyAdmin. I guess from when I try to vi= ew it > in a browser I get the message unable to load mysql extensions the msql l= ink > re-directs me to the phpmyadmin site where its states about it can't load > mysql.so which is on my system I tried placing it in the same directory = but > that didn't work. Changing many things in the config.inc.php file but I s= till > get the same error. Has anyone been successful at getting phpMyAdmin to = work on > FreeBSD 4.8, if so please info me=20 Works fine for me. I assume you have compiled up php with the mysql support included? It's in the default configuration, so it should be there even if you've installed packages from the FTP sites. In any case, look at the output of the phpinfo() function to verify that you have compiled it with all of the right options: % /usr/local/bin/php << EOF | grep MySQL ? ? EOF MySQL Support =3D> enabled Now it does sound as if you don't have libmysqlclient.so on your library search path. Try running these commands and compare the output to what I get: % ldd /usr/local/libexec/apache/libphp4.so | grep mysql=20 libmysqlclient.so.12 =3D> /usr/local/lib/mysql/libmysqlclient.s= o.12 (0x28608000) % ldconfig -r | grep mysql search directories: /usr/lib:/usr/lib/compat:/usr/X11R6/lib:/us= r/local/lib:/usr/local/lib/mysql:/usr/local/lib/compat/pkg:/usr/local/lib/p= th 166:-lmysqlclient_r.12 =3D> /usr/local/lib/mysql/libmysqlclient= _r.so.12 167:-lmysqlclient.12 =3D> /usr/local/lib/mysql/libmysqlclient.s= o.12 At a guess the problem is that you don't have '/usr/local/lib/mysql' on your shared library search path. You can fix that (as a one-off) by: # ldconfig -m /usr/local/lib/mysql after which the ldd(1) and ldconfig(8) commands above should show libmysqlclient.so being correctly located. Then restart apache: # apachectl graceful and the PHP module should pick up the required MySQL stuff. Don't worry if the .so version number on your system is different -- I'm running mysql-4.0.18 which implies libmysqlclient.so.12. Other MySQL versions will be different. You can preserve the ldconfig setup, or rather recreate it on each reboot, by putting: ldconfig_paths=3D"/usr/lib/compat /usr/X11R6/lib /usr/local/lib /usr/lo= cal/lib/mysql" into /etc/rc.conf. Cheers Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFAMSSvdtESqEQa7a0RAvWAAJsEabh5S3Me558u0ekUvZjZkmvQ+wCeMFEI bkvwaSt3EgorcL0kNVQEwEc= =nxs9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1-- From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 17 01:50:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21CA516A4CE for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 01:50:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns.core (wt.lviv.farlep.net [213.130.16.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A80B543D1F for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 01:50:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from g-r-v@ukr.net) Received: from gw.core (gw.core [10.0.0.5]) by ns.core (8.12.9p1/8.12.6/ WTBTS UA) with ESMTP id i1H9q962007384 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 11:52:09 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from g-r-v@ukr.net) Received: (Private information has been deleted) for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 11:56:22 +0200 (EET) Message-Id: <200402170956.i1H9uMbS086603@gw.core> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 11:54:21 +0200 From: Robert Golovniov X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: ArcMail 2.93 X-Request-PGP: mailto:golovniov@interia.pl?subject=GPG%20Key&Body=Attached%20key X-PGP-KeyID: 0x633F6D07 / 1A1C 29F1 2A0C 4C4E 0BDA C8EE 5A1D 9F03 633F 6D07 Subject: Wine X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Robert Golovniov List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 09:50:46 -0000 Hello, Are any step-by-step instructions for configuring and running Wine on FreeBSD 5.X available in the FreeBSD documentation archives or elsewhere? -- -=Robert & Beata Golovniov | Lviv, Ukraine=- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ mailto:golovniov@interia.pl?subject=PGP%20Key&Body=Embedded%20key ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Raise your eyes high up and see. Who has created these things?" (Isaiah 40:26) From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 17 05:51:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 719E616A4CE for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 05:51:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from pike.mail.pike.ru (pike.mail.pike.ru [194.135.18.234]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ED8E43D31 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 05:51:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from DerAlSem@inbox.ru) Received: (qmail 11018 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2004 13:54:05 -0000 Received: from deralsem.pikenet.ru (HELO DERALDO) (194.135.17.85) by pike.mail.pike.ru with SMTP; 17 Feb 2004 13:54:05 -0000 Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 16:51:20 +0300 From: DerAlSem X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <83273932.20040217165120@inbox.ru> To: Nikolas Britton In-Reply-To: <403112B4.1080801@nbritton.org> References: <9810709762.20040215031601@inbox.ru> <40305B6B.9030608@nbritton.org> <995841125.20040216154554@inbox.ru> <403112B4.1080801@nbritton.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: 5.2.1 RC? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: DerAlSem List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 13:51:41 -0000 Hello Nikolas, Monday, February 16, 2004, 9:57:56 PM, you wrote: NB> DerAlSem wrote: >>Hello Nikolas, >> >>Monday, February 16, 2004, 8:55:55 AM, you wrote: >> >>NB> DerAlSem wrote: >> >> >> >>>>Hello freebsd-newbies, >>>> >>>> I want latest release of FreeBSD. >>>> 5.2.1-RC2-i386-disc1.iso - RC2 stands for Release Candidate 2? Does >>>> anyone knows, when it'll become Master? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>NB> FreeBSD 5.2.1 will be release in a week or two. 5.2.1 is being released >>NB> because of some bugs in 5.2 that went unnoticed. Because it's based on >>NB> 5.2 code and not the the current cvs head you should be able to safely >>NB> use the RC now and just CVSup to 5.2.1 when released. >> >>Hm, i'n using 5.1 now... Just few net-servers (ftp,www,irc, and home >>NAT). And as a newbie, a don't know about CVS... man cvs, am i right? >> NB> not the man pages, read the following from the FreeBSD Handbook, after NB> read you should be able to use CVSup, upgrade the whole system (tracking NB> current or stable), install/upgrade ports, and install/update Kernels NB> and no you don't have to know everything by heart, skim through all if NB> it then bookmark/print/makenotes of the key info. Start with the ports NB> system, then the kernel, and then building world. NB> Appendix A.5 Using CVSup: NB> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html NB> Chapter 21 The Cutting Edge: NB> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge.html NB> Chapter 9 Configuring the FreeBSD Kernels: NB> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig.html NB> Chapter 4 Installing Applications: Packages and Ports: NB> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports.html >> >>NB> BTW: FreeBSD 4.9 is the lastest "Production" Release. The 5.0, 5.1, and >>NB> 5.2.x releases are still considered beta. >> >>But 5.0 and 5.1 and 5.2 as far as i know is in "RELEASE" status. I >>thought, it's mean, that i can use them, and they are free of bugs and >>security holes. >> NB> Yes you can use it and it should work perfect for you, but the code is NB> untested. So 4.9 is still recommended for mission critical deployments. So, if i do not need "mission critical deployments" and want to be most up to date, i can use latest "release" without any problems? And i still do not understand. How can it be - "release" status, but code untested? NB> Read this, It explains a lot of thing about the *BSDs: NB> http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/rants/bsd4linux/bsd4linux1.php And again - thanks for info. -- Best regards, DerAlSem mailto:DerAlSem@inbox.ru From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 17 08:42:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 117EF16A4CE for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 08:42:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from flamingo.mail.pas.earthlink.net (flamingo.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08DB643D2D for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 08:42:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from dsc06-chc-il-209-109-234-198.rasserver.net ([209.109.234.198] helo=nbritton.org) by flamingo.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1At8JB-0004gc-00; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 08:42:54 -0800 Message-ID: <4032448B.2030709@nbritton.org> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 10:42:51 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DerAlSem , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org References: <9810709762.20040215031601@inbox.ru> <40305B6B.9030608@nbritton.org> <995841125.20040216154554@inbox.ru> <403112B4.1080801@nbritton.org> <83273932.20040217165120@inbox.ru> In-Reply-To: <83273932.20040217165120@inbox.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 5.2.1 RC? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 16:42:57 -0000 A -RELEASE is little more then a snapshot of X day of Y year of ether FreeBSDs -STABLE or -CURRENT. In FreeBSD you have two main lines of development, one is -STABLE The other is -CURRENT. Think of a Tree, FreeBSD -STABLE are the Branches, FreeBSD -CURRENT is the main trunk. The -STABLE Branches as of right now are FreeBSD 1, 2, 3, and 4, The -CURRENT Branch is the always the main CVS Head. Both FreeBSD -STABLE and -CURRENT are under active development. -STABLE, as a rule, gets bug and security fixes, but only gets new features and such that are well tested. -CURRENT gets new features, big architectural changes, and all those sorts of new development stuff. FreeBSD 5.0, 5.1, and 5.2.x are from -CURRENT, FreeBSD 5.3 will be cut from -CURRENT and will be declared -STABLE and -CURRENT will become FreeBSD 6 from then onword. As a general rule you never want to track -CURRENT unless you know what your doing, FreeBSD 5.x is the exception to this rule. This is largely oversimplified and I did not go into detail here, for that your going to have to do your own research, again here's some targeted links to help: http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/rants/bsd4linux/bsd4linux5.php http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng/index.html http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/5-roadmap/index.html http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.2R/early-adopter.html http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge.html http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvs-tags.html http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html http://www.freebsd.org/releases/index.html http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/current-stable.html DerAlSem wrote: >Hello Nikolas, > >Monday, February 16, 2004, 9:57:56 PM, you wrote: > >NB> DerAlSem wrote: > > > >>>Hello Nikolas, >>> >>>Monday, February 16, 2004, 8:55:55 AM, you wrote: >>> >>>NB> DerAlSem wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>Hello freebsd-newbies, >>>>> >>>>>I want latest release of FreeBSD. >>>>> 5.2.1-RC2-i386-disc1.iso - RC2 stands for Release Candidate 2? Does >>>>> anyone knows, when it'll become Master? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>NB> FreeBSD 5.2.1 will be release in a week or two. 5.2.1 is being released >>>NB> because of some bugs in 5.2 that went unnoticed. Because it's based on >>>NB> 5.2 code and not the the current cvs head you should be able to safely >>>NB> use the RC now and just CVSup to 5.2.1 when released. >>> >>>Hm, i'n using 5.1 now... Just few net-servers (ftp,www,irc, and home >>>NAT). And as a newbie, a don't know about CVS... man cvs, am i right? >>> >>> >>> >NB> not the man pages, read the following from the FreeBSD Handbook, after >NB> read you should be able to use CVSup, upgrade the whole system (tracking >NB> current or stable), install/upgrade ports, and install/update Kernels >NB> and no you don't have to know everything by heart, skim through all if >NB> it then bookmark/print/makenotes of the key info. Start with the ports >NB> system, then the kernel, and then building world. > >NB> Appendix A.5 Using CVSup: >NB> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html >NB> Chapter 21 The Cutting Edge: >NB> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge.html >NB> Chapter 9 Configuring the FreeBSD Kernels: >NB> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig.html >NB> Chapter 4 Installing Applications: Packages and Ports: >NB> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports.html > > > >>>NB> BTW: FreeBSD 4.9 is the lastest "Production" Release. The 5.0, 5.1, and >>>NB> 5.2.x releases are still considered beta. >>> >>>But 5.0 and 5.1 and 5.2 as far as i know is in "RELEASE" status. I >>>thought, it's mean, that i can use them, and they are free of bugs and >>>security holes. >>> >>> >>> >NB> Yes you can use it and it should work perfect for you, but the code is >NB> untested. So 4.9 is still recommended for mission critical deployments. > >So, if i do not need "mission critical deployments" and want to be >most up to date, i can use latest "release" without any problems? > >And i still do not understand. How can it be - "release" status, but >code untested? > >NB> Read this, It explains a lot of thing about the *BSDs: >NB> http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/rants/bsd4linux/bsd4linux1.php > >And again - thanks for info. > > > From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 17 09:40:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F14716A4CE for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 09:40:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6202643D1D for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 09:40:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from daleco.biz ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0); Tue, 17 Feb 2004 11:40:30 -0600 Message-ID: <403251F4.4010705@daleco.biz> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 11:40:04 -0600 From: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040212 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nikolas Britton References: <9810709762.20040215031601@inbox.ru> <40305B6B.9030608@nbritton.org> <995841125.20040216154554@inbox.ru> <403112B4.1080801@nbritton.org> <83273932.20040217165120@inbox.ru> <4032448B.2030709@nbritton.org> In-Reply-To: <4032448B.2030709@nbritton.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Feb 2004 17:40:30.0765 (UTC) FILETIME=[234075D0:01C3F57D] cc: DerAlSem cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.2.1 RC? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 17:40:20 -0000 Nikolas Britton wrote: > A -RELEASE is little more then a snapshot of X day of Y year of ether > FreeBSDs -STABLE or -CURRENT. > Hmm, I wonder if the RELENG team would bristle at that statement, especially taken out of context as I have here. We might want to mention that the tree is "frozen" for some weeks prior to a RELEASE to make sure that no unexpected "features" are added to the code prior to it's RELEASE date...and to give time for at least a certain type of testing.... RELEASES are tested, but not by the general public per se*, prior to being tagged and made available to that public as X_X_RELEASE. $0.02 for clarification, Kevin Kinsey DaleCo, S.P. *Apart from the developers/committers, users who read -STABLE (as an example) are encouraged to update to the "frozen" code base and give it a workout in hopes that any hidden gnats will come out in the open prior to the RELEASE date.... From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 17 10:08:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B13D116A4CE for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 10:08:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from zeus.acuson.com (ac17860.acuson.com [157.226.71.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAC5C43D1D for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 10:08:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from DavidJohnson@Siemens.com) Received: from mvaexch02 ([157.226.230.209]:1536 helo=mvaexch02.acuson.com) by zeus.acuson.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1At9dJ-0002sc-6N for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 10:07:45 -0800 Received: by mvaexch02.acuson.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id <15HG14TS>; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 09:59:47 -0800 Received: from dhcp-46-107.acuson.com ([157.226.46.107]) by mvaexch01.acuson.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2657.72) id 15H14VMR; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 09:58:36 -0800 From: Johnson David To: Robert Golovniov Organization: Siemens Medical Systems Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 10:05:47 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.6 References: <200402170956.i1H9uMbS086603@gw.core> In-Reply-To: <200402170956.i1H9uMbS086603@gw.core> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200402171005.48062.DavidJohnson@Siemens.com> X-Scanner: exiscan for exim4 (http://duncanthrax.net/exiscan/) *1At9dJ-0002sc-6N*LdNXGxWhDvw* Subject: Re: Wine X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 18:08:02 -0000 On Tuesday 17 February 2004 01:54 am, Robert Golovniov wrote: > Hello, > > Are any step-by-step instructions for configuring and running > Wine on FreeBSD 5.X available in the FreeBSD documentation > archives or elsewhere? There was an article at O'Reilly ONLamp a while ago. Go there and search and you should find it. David From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 17 14:51:51 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9692E16A4CE for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 14:51:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from ptb-relay03.plus.net (ptb-relay03.plus.net [212.159.14.214]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AE9643D1D for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 14:51:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from teilhk@hotpost.co.uk) Received: from [80.229.6.33] (helo=ghostsearchers.com) by ptb-relay03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1AtE4C-0007SD-QE for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 22:51:48 +0000 Received: from ARLETTE ([201.128.115.114]) by ghostsearchers.com (ghostsearchers.com [80.229.6.33]) (MDaemon.PRO.v6.8.4.R) with ESMTP id 49-md50000000171.tmp for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 22:51:44 +0000 Message-ID: <006c01c3f5a8$99b4f530$230110ac@ARLETTE> From: "Teilhard Knight" To: "FreeBSD_Newbies" Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 16:50:07 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Processed: ghostsearchers.com, Tue, 17 Feb 2004 22:51:44 +0000 (not processed: message from valid local sender) X-MDRemoteIP: 201.128.115.114 X-Return-Path: teilhk@hotpost.co.uk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: KDE X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 22:51:51 -0000 I write to this list because somehow I feel my problem is very simple. When I write the command "startx" as a root, I enter KDE all right. But if I do it as user, I enter a simple three or four pane graphical mode. Is there any way to fix this? That is, to enter KDE as user? Teilhard Knight The Extraterrestrial Change "privacy" for "softhome" if you want to intrude my inbox ________________________________ 30mb Free Web based, POP3 & IMAP4 e-mail. Sign up now: http://www.hotpost.co.uk From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 17 15:38:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7002716A4CF for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 15:38:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from zeus.acuson.com (ac17860.acuson.com [157.226.71.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B6F243D2D for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 15:38:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from DavidJohnson@Siemens.com) Received: from mvaexch02 ([157.226.230.209]:2806 helo=mvaexch02.acuson.com) by zeus.acuson.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1AtEmz-0007Yn-3F; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 15:38:04 -0800 Received: by mvaexch02.acuson.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id <15HG1X7J>; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 15:30:03 -0800 Received: from dhcp-46-107.acuson.com ([157.226.46.107]) by mvaexch01.acuson.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2657.72) id 15H147QF; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 15:28:52 -0800 From: Johnson David To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Organization: Siemens Medical Systems Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 15:36:03 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.6 References: <006c01c3f5a8$99b4f530$230110ac@ARLETTE> In-Reply-To: <006c01c3f5a8$99b4f530$230110ac@ARLETTE> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200402171536.03960.DavidJohnson@Siemens.com> X-Scanner: exiscan for exim4 (http://duncanthrax.net/exiscan/) *1AtEmz-0007Yn-3F*kpxIY8Lylrc* cc: Teilhard Knight Subject: Re: KDE X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 23:38:22 -0000 On Tuesday 17 February 2004 02:50 pm, Teilhard Knight wrote: > I write to this list because somehow I feel my problem is very > simple. > > When I write the command "startx" as a root, I enter KDE all right. > But if I do it as user, I enter a simple three or four pane graphical > mode. > > Is there any way to fix this? That is, to enter KDE as user? Please read the FreeBSD Handbook, section 5.7.2.2 "Installing KDE". The FreeBSD Handbook is your friend... David From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 17 15:48:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE78216A4CE for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 15:48:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from deerite.fhcrc.org (deerite.fhcrc.org [140.107.52.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 844E143D1D for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 15:48:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jgoodlea@fhcrc.org) Received: from e500a.fhcrc.org (e500a.fhcrc.org [140.107.42.21]) i1HNmeMh025806 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 15:48:40 -0800 Received: from jarlite.fhcrc.org(140.107.42.11) by e500a.fhcrc.org via csmap id 21632; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 15:47:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from shemp.fhcrc.org (shemp.fhcrc.org [140.107.42.41]) i1HNmdS8019963 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 15:48:39 -0800 Received: by shemp.fhcrc.org with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 15:48:38 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Goodleaf, John M" To: "'freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org'" Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 15:48:38 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-FHCRC: INTERNAL Subject: dang: how to display the process ass'd with an active port X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 23:48:42 -0000 Under 4.9, how can I tell which process is associated with a port? I've noticed a few oddball ports open on a machine, and I'd like to know which process did that. Seems straightforward and yet I don't know the answer. Thanks, John From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 17 16:05:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E20716A4CE for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 16:05:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from deerite.fhcrc.org (deerite.fhcrc.org [140.107.52.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C84143D1D for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 16:05:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jgoodlea@fhcrc.org) Received: from e500a.fhcrc.org (e500a.fhcrc.org [140.107.42.21]) i1I05oMh027850 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 16:05:50 -0800 Received: from jarlite.fhcrc.org(140.107.42.11) by e500a.fhcrc.org via csmap id 28883; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 16:05:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from shemp.fhcrc.org (shemp.fhcrc.org [140.107.42.41]) i1I04QS8022110 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 16:04:26 -0800 Received: by shemp.fhcrc.org with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 16:04:25 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Goodleaf, John M" To: "'freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org'" Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 16:04:25 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-FHCRC: INTERNAL Subject: NEVERMIND: dang: how to display the process ass'd with an active port X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 00:05:50 -0000 I found the right google string to answer the question. If anyone's curious (and as ill-informed as I), the answer is lsof. So for me, lsof -i TCP: yielded the answer. Thanks anyway, John > -----Original Message----- > From: Goodleaf, John M > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 3:49 PM > To: 'freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org' > Subject: dang: how to display the process ass'd with an active port > > Under 4.9, how can I tell which process is associated with a port? I've > noticed a few oddball ports open on a machine, and I'd like to know which > process did that. Seems straightforward and yet I don't know the answer. > > Thanks, > John > From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 17 16:08:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 323DE16A4CE for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 16:08:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from hijra.homeunix.com (adsl-68-92-89-26.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [68.92.89.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0914743D1D for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 16:08:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tweaxor@hijra.homeunix.com) Received: by hijra.homeunix.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id ECCDDFF9; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 17:23:32 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 17:23:32 -0600 From: Tweax Daemon To: "Goodleaf, John M" Message-ID: <20040217232332.GA44267@hijra.homeunix.com> Mail-Followup-To: "Goodleaf, John M" , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Mailer: Mutt http//www.mutt.org X-GeekCode: 01001101 01110101 01110100 01110100 X-Quote: Justing having phun, Open Source Computing!! cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dang: how to display the process ass'd with an active port X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 00:08:57 -0000 On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 03:48:38PM -0800, Goodleaf, John M wrote: > Under 4.9, how can I tell which process is associated with a port? I've > noticed a few oddball ports open on a machine, and I'd like to know which > process did that. Seems straightforward and yet I don't know the answer. > netstat -an|grep LISTEN more /etc/services etc/services lists which service normally run on those ports -- \ ||| / ++Pat | (o o) ++hijra.homeunix.com | ----oo0-(_)-0oo---- ++To err is human, to forgive, beyond the scope of the Operating System. GPG Fingerprint: 3D9B BDB8 E5AD 7F0C DA1D 299E DCE8 9915 44B9 005C From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 17 16:22:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF07A16A4CE; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 16:22:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from out012.verizon.net (out012pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.137]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FD4043D1D; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 16:22:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from res8ccze@verizon.net) Received: from outgoing.verizon.net ([192.168.1.6]) by out012.verizon.net ESMTP <20040218002239.RAPB1590.out012.verizon.net@outgoing.verizon.net>; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 18:22:39 -0600 X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.12 (webedge20-101-197-20030912) From: To: , Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 0:22:39 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out012.verizon.net from [192.168.1.6] at Tue, 17 Feb 2004 18:22:39 -0600 Message-Id: <20040218002239.RAPB1590.out012.verizon.net@outgoing.verizon.net> Subject: X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 00:22:41 -0000 Hi all, I get the follwing dump when booting from the any install CD created from BSD ftp. I've checked the MD5 checksums, and they are good. Hardware: HP Workstation xw6000 Xeon 2.4Ghz (1 CPU) 512MB RAM Adaptec AIC-7902 - Ultra320 SCSI Broadcom NetXtreme Gigbit Ethernet Intel 82801DB Ultra ATA Storage Controller - 24CB Intel E7000 Series Processor to AGP Controller - 2550 Intel E7505 Chipset Host Controller Any ideas? TIA, FS. Lookup up /BOOTLOADER... Found Relocating the loader and the BTX Starting the BTX loader BTX loader 1.00 BTX version is 1.01 Console: internal video/keyboard BIOS CD is cd0 BIOS drive A: is disk0 BIOS drive C: is disk1 BIOS drive D: is disk2 BIOS 638kB/523200kB available memory FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader Revision 1.1 (root@wvlu.btc.adaptec.com, Sat Jan 10 23:55:58 GMT 2004) | int=0000000d err=00000000 efl=00030246 eip=00003387 eax=0000202f ebx=00000004 ecx=00002000 edx=0000a65e esi=000008d5 edi=0006290c ebp=00001514 esp=000014de cs=f000 ds=ee03 es=ee03 fs=0000 gs=0000 ss=ee03 cs:eip=0f 20 dd 81 e5 f0 0f-20 c2 0f 01 ed a8 01 75 08 80 e2 fe e8 53 eb-21 0f 20 e0 a9 30 00 75 cs:edp=0c 29 06 0d d5 08 00-14 15 00 00 fe 14 00 00 04 00 00 00 5e a6 00-04 00 00 00 2f a6 00 00 BTX halted From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 17 17:06:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 120EC16A4CE for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 17:06:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp-out3.xs4all.nl (smtp-out3.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B73E43D31 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 17:06:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from v.vandalon@student.tue.nl) Received: from student.tue.nl (vandalon.xs4all.nl [80.126.124.113]) by smtp-out3.xs4all.nl (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i1I16E1N038174 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 2004 02:06:14 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4032BA86.9080708@student.tue.nl> Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 02:06:14 +0100 From: Vincent Vandalon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i386; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD newbie Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Console beep X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 01:06:16 -0000 Hi all, i have a question that has been on my mind for some time now. I want to change the level and pitch of the console beep(other people in my house don't have to wake up if i mistype). Ive seen this option with various Linux distributions. After looking in the manual(on beep and curses and ctrl-f beep in the sinlge page file handbook), and googled on FreeBSD beep i wasn't able to find it. I hope this isn't to basic, but i my search-keyword inspiration has left me. Regards Vincent From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 17 17:06:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1206916A4CE for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 17:06:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp-out2.xs4all.nl (smtp-out2.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BBC443D2D for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 17:06:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vincent@vandalon.nl) Received: from vandalon.nl (vandalon.xs4all.nl [80.126.124.113]) by smtp-out2.xs4all.nl (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i1I16Q02027579 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 2004 02:06:26 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4032BA92.2090106@vandalon.nl> Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 02:06:26 +0100 From: Vincent Vandalon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i386; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD newbie Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Console beep X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 01:06:28 -0000 Hi all, i have a question that has been on my mind for some time now. I want to change the level and pitch of the console beep(other people in my house don't have to wake up if i mistype). Ive seen this option with various Linux distributions. After looking in the manual(on beep and curses and ctrl-f beep in the sinlge page file handbook), and googled on FreeBSD beep i wasn't able to find it. I hope this isn't to basic, but i my search-keyword inspiration has left me. Regards Vincent From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 17 17:13:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09E4116A4CE for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 17:13:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from ozlabs.org (ozlabs.org [203.10.76.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D47C043D1D for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 17:13:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from blackwater.lemis.com (blackwater.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D29522BD49 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 2004 12:13:22 +1100 (EST) Received: by blackwater.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DEB7051211; Wed, 18 Feb 2004 11:43:18 +1030 (CST) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 11:43:18 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Vincent Vandalon Message-ID: <20040218011318.GI64477@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <4032BA92.2090106@vandalon.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="itqfrb9Qq3wY07cp" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4032BA92.2090106@vandalon.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 cc: FreeBSD newbie Subject: Re: Console beep X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 01:13:25 -0000 --itqfrb9Qq3wY07cp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday, 18 February 2004 at 2:06:26 +0100, Vincent Vandalon wrote: > Hi all, > > i have a question that has been on my mind for some time now. I want to > change the level and pitch of the console beep(other people in my house > don't have to wake up if i mistype). Ive seen this option with various > Linux distributions. After looking in the manual(on beep and curses and > ctrl-f beep in the sinlge page file handbook), and googled on FreeBSD > beep i wasn't able to find it. > > I hope this isn't to basic, but i my search-keyword inspiration has left me. This is a question for FreeBSD-questions. There's a simple answer, but I'm not allowed to reply here. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --itqfrb9Qq3wY07cp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFAMrwuIubykFB6QiMRAtszAKCMyTKYLYmFKt99U+w5kksIHHaZxACgkI5i hcIQFDCvEzhBQ+d5fVUnxo8= =mG11 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --itqfrb9Qq3wY07cp-- From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 17 17:56:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D27C216A4CE; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 17:56:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A705B43D1F; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 17:56:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from daleco.biz ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0); Tue, 17 Feb 2004 19:56:19 -0600 Message-ID: <4032C62B.8030101@daleco.biz> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 19:55:55 -0600 From: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040212 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: res8ccze@verizon.net References: <20040218002239.RAPB1590.out012.verizon.net@outgoing.verizon.net> In-Reply-To: <20040218002239.RAPB1590.out012.verizon.net@outgoing.verizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Feb 2004 01:56:20.0500 (UTC) FILETIME=[6779C540:01C3F5C2] cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 01:56:09 -0000 res8ccze@verizon.net wrote: >Hi all, > >I get the follwing dump when booting from the any install CD created from BSD ftp. I've checked the MD5 checksums, and they are good. > >Hardware: >HP Workstation xw6000 >Xeon 2.4Ghz (1 CPU) >512MB RAM >Adaptec AIC-7902 - Ultra320 SCSI >Broadcom NetXtreme Gigbit Ethernet >Intel 82801DB Ultra ATA Storage Controller - 24CB >Intel E7000 Series Processor to AGP Controller - 2550 >Intel E7505 Chipset Host Controller > >Any ideas? > >TIA, > > FS. > > There are a few entries at Google on this one. Can't recall what they say at the time, though. It is conquerable. You might write questions@freebsd.org; some geniuses hang out there... ;-) Kevin Kinsey DaleCo, S.P. > >Lookup up /BOOTLOADER... Found >Relocating the loader and the BTX >Starting the BTX loader > >BTX loader 1.00 BTX version is 1.01 >Console: internal video/keyboard >BIOS CD is cd0 >BIOS drive A: is disk0 >BIOS drive C: is disk1 >BIOS drive D: is disk2 >BIOS 638kB/523200kB available memory > >FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader Revision 1.1 >(root@wvlu.btc.adaptec.com, Sat Jan 10 23:55:58 GMT 2004) >| >int=0000000d err=00000000 efl=00030246 eip=00003387 >eax=0000202f ebx=00000004 ecx=00002000 edx=0000a65e >esi=000008d5 edi=0006290c ebp=00001514 esp=000014de >cs=f000 ds=ee03 es=ee03 fs=0000 gs=0000 ss=ee03 >cs:eip=0f 20 dd 81 e5 f0 0f-20 c2 0f 01 ed a8 01 75 > 08 80 e2 fe e8 53 eb-21 0f 20 e0 a9 30 00 75 >cs:edp=0c 29 06 0d d5 08 00-14 15 00 00 fe 14 00 00 > 04 00 00 00 5e a6 00-04 00 00 00 2f a6 00 00 >BTX halted > > From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 17 18:37:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC94616A4CE for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 18:37:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from flamingo.mail.pas.earthlink.net (flamingo.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E644743D1D for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 18:37:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from dsc01-chc-il-209-109-229-46.rasserver.net ([209.109.229.46] helo=nbritton.org) by flamingo.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AtHal-0002Ya-00; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 18:37:40 -0800 Message-ID: <4032CFF2.10504@nbritton.org> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 20:37:38 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Teilhard Knight , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org References: <006c01c3f5a8$99b4f530$230110ac@ARLETTE> In-Reply-To: <006c01c3f5a8$99b4f530$230110ac@ARLETTE> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: KDE X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 02:37:43 -0000 maybe it's your xinitrc config file, ether not configured to load kde or permission problems? Teilhard Knight wrote: >I write to this list because somehow I feel my problem is very simple. > >When I write the command "startx" as a root, I enter KDE all right. But if I >do it as user, I enter a simple three or four pane graphical mode. > >Is there any way to fix this? That is, to enter KDE as user? > >Teilhard Knight >The Extraterrestrial > >Change "privacy" for "softhome" if you want to intrude my inbox > >________________________________ > >30mb Free Web based, POP3 & IMAP4 e-mail. > >Sign up now: http://www.hotpost.co.uk > > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 17 21:00:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2D3116A4CE; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 21:00:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from pd3mo3so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B53B143D1D; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 21:00:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from aardvark@saintaardvarkthecarpeted.com) Received: from pd4mr1so.prod.shaw.ca (pd4mr1so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.212]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.18 (built Jul 28 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HT9003FFKFIRW@l-daemon>; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 21:57:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from pn2ml1so.prod.shaw.ca (pn2ml1so-qfe0.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.121.145]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.18 (built Jul 28 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HT900E0VKAP3R@l-daemon>; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 21:54:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from francisco.saintaardvarkthecarpeted.com (h24-87-202-31.vc.shawcable.net [24.87.202.31])2003)) with ESMTP id <0HT900A1LKAP8W@l-daemon>; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 21:54:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from hardesty.hardesty.saintaardvarkthecarpeted.com (hardesty.saintaardvarkthecarpeted.com [192.168.23.1]) by francisco.saintaardvarkthecarpeted.com (8.12.10/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i1I4trvR044343; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 20:55:53 -0800 Received: from aardvark by hardesty.hardesty.saintaardvarkthecarpeted.com with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AtJiE-0005ol-00; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 20:53:30 -0800 Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 20:53:30 -0800 From: Saint Aardvark the Carpeted In-reply-to: <20040218002239.RAPB1590.out012.verizon.net@outgoing.verizon.net> Sender: Debian User To: res8ccze@verizon.net Message-id: <20040218045330.GI2197@hardesty.saintaardvarkthecarpeted.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1+cvs20040105i References: <20040218002239.RAPB1590.out012.verizon.net@outgoing.verizon.net> cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: your mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 05:00:45 -0000 res8ccze@verizon.net disturbed my sleep to write: > Any ideas? > TIA, > FS. I had something pretty similar to this with some Compaq computers my employer bought at auction. As I recall, I ended up having to fiddle with/turn off DMA in BIOS in order to get it to work. Hope that helps, Hugh -- Saint Aardvark the Carpeted aardvark@saintaardvarkthecarpeted.com Because the plural of Anecdote is Myth. From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 17 21:53:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44ADE16A4CE; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 21:53:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17D9343D1D; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 21:53:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from daleco.biz ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0); Tue, 17 Feb 2004 23:54:10 -0600 Message-ID: <4032FDE9.30907@daleco.biz> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 23:53:45 -0600 From: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040212 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Saint Aardvark the Carpeted References: <20040218002239.RAPB1590.out012.verizon.net@outgoing.verizon.net> <20040218045330.GI2197@hardesty.saintaardvarkthecarpeted.com> In-Reply-To: <20040218045330.GI2197@hardesty.saintaardvarkthecarpeted.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Feb 2004 05:54:11.0078 (UTC) FILETIME=[A1672A60:01C3F5E3] cc: res8ccze@verizon.net cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: your mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 05:53:59 -0000 Saint Aardvark the Carpeted wrote: >res8ccze@verizon.net disturbed my sleep to write: > > >>Any ideas? >>TIA, >> FS. >> >> > >I had something pretty similar to this with some Compaq computers my >employer bought at auction. As I recall, I ended up having to fiddle >with/turn off DMA in BIOS in order to get it to work. > >Hope that helps, >Hugh > > And IIRC, my problem was similar. Either a fallback to PIO mode, or just changing IDE cables ... a tad strange, but I remember it had something to do with the HDD and its controller..... Kevin Kinsey DaleCo, S.P. From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 17 23:53:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2607816A4CE for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 23:53:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from amber.aeternal.net (amber.in.markiza.sk [195.146.148.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE4EE43D2F for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 23:53:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from corwin@aeternal.net) Received: from amber.aeternal.net (amber.aeternal.net [192.168.0.11]) by amber.aeternal.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6943059CB7; Wed, 18 Feb 2004 08:53:58 +0100 (CET) From: Martin Hudec To: "Teilhard Knight" , "FreeBSD_Newbies" Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 08:53:57 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 References: <006c01c3f5a8$99b4f530$230110ac@ARLETTE> In-Reply-To: <006c01c3f5a8$99b4f530$230110ac@ARLETTE> X-Copyright: (C) 2004 Martin Hudec X-Operating-System: FreeBSD amber.aeternal.net 4.9-RELEASE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200402180853.57871.corwin@aeternal.net> Subject: Re: KDE X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 07:53:56 -0000 Hello, you have to create file named .xinitrc in your user home directory, and put there line like: exec startkde Cheers, Martin On Tuesday 17 February 2004 23:50, Teilhard Knight wrote: > I write to this list because somehow I feel my problem is very simple. > > When I write the command "startx" as a root, I enter KDE all right. But if > I do it as user, I enter a simple three or four pane graphical mode. > > Is there any way to fix this? That is, to enter KDE as user? -- : :. kind regards :.. Martin Hudec :.: :.: =w= http://www.aeternal.net :.: =m= +421.907.303393 :.: =@= corwin@aeternal.net :.: :.: "When you want something, all the universe :.: conspires in helping you to achieve it." :.: - The Alchemist (Paulo Coelho) From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 18 09:44:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 236DE16A4CE; Wed, 18 Feb 2004 09:44:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from out005.verizon.net (out005pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C867F43D1F; Wed, 18 Feb 2004 09:44:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freeskier@verizon.net) Received: from outgoing.verizon.net ([192.168.1.3]) by out005.verizon.net ESMTP <20040218174423.VRFZ2677.out005.verizon.net@outgoing.verizon.net>; Wed, 18 Feb 2004 11:44:23 -0600 X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.12 (webedge20-101-197-20030912) From: To: Saint Aardvark the Carpeted Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 11:44:23 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out005.verizon.net from [192.168.1.3] at Wed, 18 Feb 2004 11:44:23 -0600 Message-Id: <20040218174423.VRFZ2677.out005.verizon.net@outgoing.verizon.net> cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Re: your mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 17:44:24 -0000 This did it. Thanks! -fs > > From: Saint Aardvark the Carpeted > Date: 2004/02/17 Tue PM 10:53:30 CST > To: res8ccze@verizon.net > CC: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: your mail > > res8ccze@verizon.net disturbed my sleep to write: > > Any ideas? > > TIA, > > FS. > > I had something pretty similar to this with some Compaq computers my > employer bought at auction. As I recall, I ended up having to fiddle > with/turn off DMA in BIOS in order to get it to work. > > Hope that helps, > Hugh > -- > Saint Aardvark the Carpeted > aardvark@saintaardvarkthecarpeted.com > Because the plural of Anecdote is Myth. > From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 18 14:20:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08D8416A4CE for ; Wed, 18 Feb 2004 14:20:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8799F43D1D for ; Wed, 18 Feb 2004 14:20:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from xtalsinger@blueyonder.co.uk) Received: from thor ([82.39.74.76]) by smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Wed, 18 Feb 2004 22:20:26 +0000 From: Dave To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 22:20:26 +0000 Message-ID: <93p7309dikdceq4bh5vaiv6kctgoemtam1@4ax.com> References: <1076768235.32078.7.camel@linux.local> In-Reply-To: <1076768235.32078.7.camel@linux.local> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Feb 2004 22:20:26.0220 (UTC) FILETIME=[688942C0:01C3F66D] Subject: Re: ISO image for sources X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: xtalsinger@blueyonder.co.uk List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 22:20:28 -0000 On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 09:17:16 -0500, you wrote: >On Sat, 2004-02-14 at 02:07, saifikhan@gamebox.net wrote: >> Hi: >> >> Is there a URL from where I can download the 5.2 sources >> as a ISO image ? >> >> thanks >> Saifi Khan. >> >> >ftp://ftp1.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ Or better yet, find one nearer to you (in network terms) in India from the list at: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors-ftp.html Taiwan, China, Hong Kong, Korea maybe? You might want to ping or traceroute some to see which works best/is nearest. Dave -- Any speling misteaks are the reult of a bad insallation of mod_spelink. From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 18 15:32:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F83116A50F for ; Wed, 18 Feb 2004 15:32:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localhost (ca-dibar-cuda1-c10a-39.anhmca.adelphia.net [24.54.234.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFF2943D1F for ; Wed, 18 Feb 2004 15:32:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin@znode.org) Received: from localhost.localhost (localhost.localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localhost (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i1INW4Aa001638 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 2004 15:32:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin@znode.org) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 15:31:59 -0800 From: James Wu To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20040218153159.3c421254@localhost.localhost> In-Reply-To: <20040218200422.75DE916A503@hub.freebsd.org> References: <20040218200422.75DE916A503@hub.freebsd.org> Organization: Znode Productions X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.9claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: dang: how to display the process ass'd with an active port X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 23:32:26 -0000 > From: "Goodleaf, John M" > Subject: dang: how to display the process ass'd with an active port > > Under 4.9, how can I tell which process is associated with a port? I've > noticed a few oddball ports open on a machine, and I'd like to know which > process did that. Seems straightforward and yet I don't know the answer. As root, do # sockstat -4l You should see which processes and ports are listening, such as: USER COMMAND PID FD PROTO LOCAL ADDRESS FOREIGN ADDRESS garble xpilots 1587 3 udp4 *:15345 *:* root sendmail 449 4 tcp4 127.0.0.1:25 *:* root sshd 443 3 tcp4 *:22 *:* From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 18 16:13:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99A5516A4CE for ; Wed, 18 Feb 2004 16:13:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from jolly.drunkmonk.net (jolly.drunkmonk.net [63.251.191.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 795AB43D1D for ; Wed, 18 Feb 2004 16:13:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from verm@jolly.drunkmonk.net) Received: from jolly.drunkmonk.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jolly.drunkmonk.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id i1J0DQAC009328 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 18 Feb 2004 17:13:26 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from verm@jolly.drunkmonk.net) Received: (from verm@localhost) by jolly.drunkmonk.net (8.12.9/8.12.1/Submit) id i1J0DPhS009327 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Feb 2004 17:13:25 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 17:13:25 -0700 From: Amar Takhar To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040219001325.GA9193@drunkmonk.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org References: <200402170956.i1H9uMbS086603@gw.core> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200402170956.i1H9uMbS086603@gw.core> Subject: Re: Wine X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 00:13:26 -0000 On 2004-02-17 11:54 +0200, Robert Golovniov wrote: > Hello, > > Are any step-by-step instructions for configuring and running Wine > on FreeBSD 5.X available in the FreeBSD documentation archives or > elsewhere? I have the incomplete, and very out dated "wine on freebsd" document is tarted writing a while ago. Most of it still applies, just keep in mind to run "wine wineboot" after installing software so any post-install functions are completed. I'm in the process of updating this document so it's more current, however the windows directory layout is still very useful. You can find it here: http://www.ten15.org/~verm/wine/ Amar. From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 18 16:14:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5872016A4CE for ; Wed, 18 Feb 2004 16:14:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from jolly.drunkmonk.net (jolly.drunkmonk.net [63.251.191.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37FD543D1F for ; Wed, 18 Feb 2004 16:14:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from verm@jolly.drunkmonk.net) Received: from jolly.drunkmonk.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jolly.drunkmonk.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id i1J0EXAC009353 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 18 Feb 2004 17:14:34 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from verm@jolly.drunkmonk.net) Received: (from verm@localhost) by jolly.drunkmonk.net (8.12.9/8.12.1/Submit) id i1J0EXnT009352 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Feb 2004 17:14:33 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 17:14:33 -0700 From: Amar Takhar To: "'freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org'" Message-ID: <20040219001433.GB9193@drunkmonk.net> Mail-Followup-To: "'freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org'" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: dang: how to display the process ass'd with an active port X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 00:14:34 -0000 On 2004-02-17 15:48 -0800, Goodleaf, John M wrote: > Under 4.9, how can I tell which process is associated with a port? I've > noticed a few oddball ports open on a machine, and I'd like to know which > process did that. Seems straightforward and yet I don't know the answer. Install /usr/ports/sysutils/lsof "list open files". lsof|grep : Usually works great for me! Amar. From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 18 18:40:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9344C16A4CE for ; Wed, 18 Feb 2004 18:40:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.auracom.com (mail.auracom.com [216.126.204.211]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 790F943D1F for ; Wed, 18 Feb 2004 18:40:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kpkelly@auracom.com) Received: from downstairs [142.154.19.47] by mail.auracom.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.05) id A19D35BB01BC; Wed, 18 Feb 2004 19:38:21 -0700 Message-ID: <000801c3f692$4c028ec0$2f139a8e@downstairs> From: "Ken" To: Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 22:44:26 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 05:37:22 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Brand Spanking New X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 02:40:43 -0000 I guess I would call myself a newbie. I do have a fair bit of = computer use over the past few years however no experience with UNIX. I = am finally getting sick of Microsoft Crap so that is why I am writing = now. I am also interested in trying out symmetric multiprocessing as I = have been collecting i386 type computers as of late. I am writing this = in order to see what it is like to write to this list as well as = possibly gaining some insight on how to move a little further in the = right direction on getting my modem working for a simple ftp from my = freebsd machine. I don't want to write too much here so I will cut it = short for now. If anyone can help me ... send me an email and I will = reply as soon as I can. TIA From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 19 08:02:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C49116A4CE for ; Thu, 19 Feb 2004 08:02:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F202F43D1D for ; Thu, 19 Feb 2004 08:02:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from daleco.biz ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0); Thu, 19 Feb 2004 10:02:17 -0600 Message-ID: <4034DDE8.9030807@daleco.biz> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 10:01:44 -0600 From: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040212 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ken References: <000801c3f692$4c028ec0$2f139a8e@downstairs> In-Reply-To: <000801c3f692$4c028ec0$2f139a8e@downstairs> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Feb 2004 16:02:18.0359 (UTC) FILETIME=[BFEE2870:01C3F701] cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Brand Spanking New X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 16:02:07 -0000 Ken wrote: > I guess I would call myself a newbie. I do have a fair bit of computer use over the past few years however no experience with UNIX. I am finally getting sick of Microsoft Crap so that is why I am writing now. I am also interested in trying out symmetric multiprocessing as I have been collecting i386 type computers as of late. I am writing this in order to see what it is like to write to this list as well as possibly gaining some insight on how to move a little further in the right direction on getting my modem working for a simple ftp from my freebsd machine. I don't want to write too much here so I will cut it short for now. If anyone can help me ... send me an email and I will reply as soon as I can. TIA >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > Welcome to FreeBSD! We were all "newbies" at one time or another. In 'Nix, experience and plenty of study (read "reading") will move you from "newbie" status to "well-satisfied user" in a matter of time (variable upon your expenditure of the above... ;-) FreeBSD is an exceptional project with some exceptional people involved. You might tell us more about your wishes ... are you interested in using FBSD for servers, or are you looking to replace your main workstation? What do you do with computers? The good news is, that FreeBSD can handle almost anything you throw at it. You just need to realize that it's up to *you* to make decisions and act upon them in regard to your system(s). "Tools, not policy" is the axiom. UNIX of old was very CLI oriented; some might argue that 'Nix still is today, but I have found that the X Window system meets almost any need that I can throw at it*. Your first installation of FreeBSD will get usually get you to a CLI; afterwards, you will want to learn to install 3rd party software (I'd recommend via the "ports" system...) and get X up and going with either a lightweight/simple window manager like Blackbox/Fluxbox (or others, fvwm, twm... I dunno) or a full-featured desktop environment such as KDE, Gnome, Enlightenment, XFCE...if you're using older hardware, I'd probably pick something more "lightweight". Now, this may seem like a lot to learn; but FreeBSD has *excellent* user documentation. You will hear (often, probably) that "the handbook is your friend." You can browse the handbook at www.freebsd.org; but I'd recommend downloading a copy in one of the many available formats (html, *rtf, etc.) and perusing the table of contents. The handbook will lead you, chapter by chapter, from an explanation of the Project through basic installation to a working multimedia computer (with plenty of other stuff between, some of which you will be able to skip because it may not apply at the current time.) Another great resource is the questions- list (questions@freebsd.org). It is a rather high volume mailing list, but you do not have to be subscribed to post, and most people will cc: you on the reply, so you don't have to join, necessarily. You will probably want to do one thing, though: some people do prefer to use the CLI (or simple terminals) over a GUI environment, and their mailers may not like your long lines; so the SOP is to hit "enter" at 72-80 characters or so. Greg Lehey (of the FBSD Core Team) has a good set of documents on this issue: the starting page is www.lemis.com/email.html. Here's wishing you the best of luck in FreeBSD! Kevin Kinsey DaleCo, S.P. *Well, my kids games haven't yet been ported to FBSD .... ;-) From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 19 20:42:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A05D16A4CE for ; Thu, 19 Feb 2004 20:42:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from descartes.voxware.net (unknown [64.95.31.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 480F443D1D for ; Thu, 19 Feb 2004 20:42:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from richard@voxsant.com) Received: from [64.95.31.163] (account richard HELO voxsant.com) by descartes.voxware.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.3) with ESMTP id 1122424 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:42:35 +0800 Message-ID: <40360089.4050203@voxsant.com> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:41:45 +0000 From: Richard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031208 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 20:44:58 -0800 Subject: make install error on mozilla 1.6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 04:42:18 -0000 *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* hi guys, I have just succesfully installed 5.2.1-RC2 FreeBSD. I tried to install the mozilla 1.6 port and heres what i got in the end .... //usr/bin/find /usr/ports/www/mozilla/work/mozilla/dist/bin -type d | /usr/bin/sort -r | /usr/bin/xargs /bin/rmdir 2> /dev/null || true ===> Installing for mozilla-1.6_2,2 ===> mozilla-1.6_2,2 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.6.1 - found ===> mozilla-1.6_2,2 depends on executable: pkg-config - found /bin/rm -f /usr/ports/www/mozilla/work/pkg-plist /usr/bin/touch -f /usr/ports/www/mozilla/work/pkg-plist if [ ! -x /usr/X11R6/bin/mozilla -a ! -L /usr/X11R6/bin/mozilla ]; then echo bin/mozilla >> /usr/ports/www/mozilla/work/pkg-plist ; fi if [ "mozilla" != "mozilla" ]; then echo bin/mozilla >> /usr/ports/www/mozilla/work/pkg-plist ; fi if [ ! -L /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so ]; then for jpi in /usr/local/jdk1.4.2/jre/plugin/i386/ns610/libjavaplugin_oji.so /usr/local/jdk1.4.1/jre/plugin/i386/ns610/libjavaplugin_oji.so /usr/local/diablo-jdk1.3.1/jre/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji.so /usr/local/jdk1.3.1/jre/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji.so; do if [ -f ${jpi} ]; then echo lib/browser_plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so >> /usr/ports/www/mozilla/work/pkg-plist ; break; fi; done; echo @dirrm lib/browser_plugins >> /usr/ports/www/mozilla/work/pkg-plist ; fi cd /usr/ports/www/mozilla/work/mozilla/dist/bin && /usr/bin/find -s * -type f -o -type l | /usr/bin/sed -e 's:^:lib/mozilla/:' >> /usr/ports/www/mozilla/work/pkg-plist && /usr/bin/find -d * -type d | /usr/bin/sed -e 's:^:@dirrm lib/mozilla/:' >> /usr/ports/www/mozilla/work/pkg-plist echo @dirrm lib/mozilla >> /usr/ports/www/mozilla/work/pkg-plist for pcfile in mozilla-gtkmozembed mozilla-js mozilla-xpcom mozilla-nspr mozilla-nss mozilla-plugin; do echo libdata/pkgconfig/${pcfile}.pc >> /usr/ports/www/mozilla/work/pkg-plist ; done cd /usr/ports/www/mozilla/work/mozilla/dist/include && /usr/bin/find -s * -type f -o -type l | /usr/bin/sed -e 's:^:include/mozilla/:' >> /usr/ports/www/mozilla/work/pkg-plist && /usr/bin/find -d * -type d | /usr/bin/sed -e 's:^:@dirrm include/mozilla/:' >> /usr/ports/www/mozilla/work/pkg-plist echo @dirrm include/mozilla >> /usr/ports/www/mozilla/work/pkg-plist ===> Generating temporary packing list ===> Checking if www/mozilla already installed /bin/mkdir -p /usr/X11R6/lib/mozilla /bin/chmod 755 /usr/X11R6/lib/mozilla cd /usr/ports/www/mozilla/work/mozilla/dist/bin && /usr/bin/find . | -pdm -L -R root:wheel /usr/X11R6/lib/mozilla -pdm: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/www/mozilla. / any ideas ... thanks clovis From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 19 21:00:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5245816A4CE for ; Thu, 19 Feb 2004 21:00:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (cdm-66-76-92-18.cart.cox-internet.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB16C43D1F for ; Thu, 19 Feb 2004 21:00:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from daleco.biz (archangel.daleco.biz [69.27.131.0]) (authenticated bits=0) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.12.9p1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i1K4w2pA073707 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 19 Feb 2004 22:59:59 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <403593B2.8010906@daleco.biz> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 22:57:22 -0600 From: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040212 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Richard References: <40360089.4050203@voxsant.com> In-Reply-To: <40360089.4050203@voxsant.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make install error on mozilla 1.6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 05:00:03 -0000 Richard wrote: > *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) > Pro* > hi guys, > > I have just succesfully installed 5.2.1-RC2 FreeBSD. I tried to > install the > mozilla 1.6 port and heres what i got in the end .... > > > //usr/bin/find /usr/ports/www/mozilla/work/mozilla/dist/bin -type d | > /usr/bin/sort -r | /usr/bin/xargs /bin/rmdir 2> /dev/null || true > ===> Installing for mozilla-1.6_2,2 > ===> mozilla-1.6_2,2 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.6.1 - found > ===> mozilla-1.6_2,2 depends on executable: pkg-config - found > /bin/rm -f /usr/ports/www/mozilla/work/pkg-plist > /usr/bin/touch -f /usr/ports/www/mozilla/work/pkg-plist > if [ ! -x /usr/X11R6/bin/mozilla -a ! -L /usr/X11R6/bin/mozilla ]; > then echo bin/mozilla >> /usr/ports/www/mozilla/work/pkg-plist ; fi > if [ "mozilla" != "mozilla" ]; then echo bin/mozilla >> > /usr/ports/www/mozilla/work/pkg-plist ; fi > if [ ! -L /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so ]; then > for jpi in > /usr/local/jdk1.4.2/jre/plugin/i386/ns610/libjavaplugin_oji.so > /usr/local/jdk1.4.1/jre/plugin/i386/ns610/libjavaplugin_oji.so > /usr/local/diablo-jdk1.3.1/jre/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji.so > /usr/local/jdk1.3.1/jre/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji.so; do if > [ -f ${jpi} ]; then echo lib/browser_plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so >> > /usr/ports/www/mozilla/work/pkg-plist ; break; fi; done; echo > @dirrm lib/browser_plugins >> /usr/ports/www/mozilla/work/pkg-plist ; fi > cd /usr/ports/www/mozilla/work/mozilla/dist/bin && /usr/bin/find -s * > -type f -o -type l | /usr/bin/sed -e 's:^:lib/mozilla/:' >> > /usr/ports/www/mozilla/work/pkg-plist && /usr/bin/find -d * -type d > | /usr/bin/sed -e 's:^:@dirrm lib/mozilla/:' >> > /usr/ports/www/mozilla/work/pkg-plist > echo @dirrm lib/mozilla >> /usr/ports/www/mozilla/work/pkg-plist > for pcfile in mozilla-gtkmozembed mozilla-js mozilla-xpcom > mozilla-nspr mozilla-nss mozilla-plugin; do echo > libdata/pkgconfig/${pcfile}.pc >> > /usr/ports/www/mozilla/work/pkg-plist ; done > cd /usr/ports/www/mozilla/work/mozilla/dist/include && /usr/bin/find > -s * -type f -o -type l | /usr/bin/sed -e 's:^:include/mozilla/:' >> > /usr/ports/www/mozilla/work/pkg-plist && /usr/bin/find -d * -type d > | /usr/bin/sed -e 's:^:@dirrm include/mozilla/:' >> > /usr/ports/www/mozilla/work/pkg-plist > echo @dirrm include/mozilla >> /usr/ports/www/mozilla/work/pkg-plist > ===> Generating temporary packing list > ===> Checking if www/mozilla already installed > /bin/mkdir -p /usr/X11R6/lib/mozilla > /bin/chmod 755 /usr/X11R6/lib/mozilla > cd /usr/ports/www/mozilla/work/mozilla/dist/bin && /usr/bin/find . | > -pdm -L -R root:wheel /usr/X11R6/lib/mozilla > -pdm: not found > *** Error code 127 > > Stop in /usr/ports/www/mozilla. > / > > any ideas ... > thanks > clovis Looks like ${CPIO} is null/undefined. Try asking the guys over at questions@; maybe they'll know where that value is supposed to come from.... Kevin Kinsey DaleCo, S.P. From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 20 01:02:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2001116A4CE for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 01:02:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from pike.mail.pike.ru (pike.mail.pike.ru [194.135.18.234]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82DDC43D2D for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 01:02:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from DerAlSem@inbox.ru) Received: (qmail 55235 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2004 09:05:39 -0000 Received: from deralsem.pikenet.ru (HELO DERALDO) (194.135.17.85) by pike.mail.pike.ru with SMTP; 20 Feb 2004 09:05:39 -0000 Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:02:40 +0300 From: DerAlSem X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <178684987.20040220120240@inbox.ru> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: NAT, netstat, etc. X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: DerAlSem List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 09:02:45 -0000 Hello freebsd-newbies, So, i've got NAT. It is working. And, i've got some program on my WinXP workstation. ANd it's not working. So, is there a way to see all net connections in real-time? For example, i run something on server, and when run my prog on WinXP, and server shows me, where this prog connects to, which protocols are used and etc. -- Best regards, DerAlSem mailto:DerAlSem@inbox.ru From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 20 01:25:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EC5916A4CE for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 01:25:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from 194-185-53-242.f5.ngi.it (194-185-53-242.f5.ngi.it [194.185.53.242]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB1D843D1D for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 01:25:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@remotelab.org) Received: from einstein.lab (einstein.lab [192.168.168.2]) i1K9POAt065960; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 10:25:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mark@remotelab.org) Received: from einstein.lab (localhost.lab [127.0.0.1]) by einstein.lab (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i1K9PBaV000848; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 10:25:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mark@einstein.lab) Received: (from mark@localhost) by einstein.lab (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i1K9PBtP000847; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 10:25:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mark) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 10:25:11 +0100 From: Marco Trentini To: DerAlSem Message-ID: <20040220092511.GA613@einstein.lab> References: <178684987.20040220120240@inbox.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <178684987.20040220120240@inbox.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NAT, netstat, etc. X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 09:25:42 -0000 On Fri, Feb 20, 2004 at 12:02:40PM +0300, DerAlSem wrote: > Hello freebsd-newbies, > > So, i've got NAT. It is working. And, i've got some program on my > WinXP workstation. ANd it's not working. So, is there a way to see > all net connections in real-time? For example, i run something on > server, and when run my prog on WinXP, and server shows me, where > this prog connects to, which protocols are used and etc. > Hi deralsem, this isn't a tecnical list. Try on freebsd-question. Anyway if you use natd on freebsd and then you use ipfw, you could use "ipfw -ad l" to show all rules. -- Marco Trentini mark@remotelab.org http://www.remotelab.org/ From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 20 02:46:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBC4D16A4CE for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 02:46:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from rdsnet.ro (unknown [62.231.74.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E911C43D2F for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 02:46:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from itetcu@apropo.ro) Received: (qmail 28634 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2004 10:46:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO it.buh.cameradicommercio.ro) (81.196.25.19) by mail.rdsnet.ro with SMTP; 20 Feb 2004 10:46:43 -0000 Received: from it.buh.cameradicommercio.ro (localhost.buh.cameradicommercio.ro [127.0.0.1]) by it.buh.cameradicommercio.ro (Postfix) with SMTP id 8B3B770; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:48:28 +0200 (EET) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:48:28 +0200 From: Ion-Mihai Tetcu To: DerAlSem Message-Id: <20040220124828.7570f9ea@it.buh.cameradicommercio.ro> In-Reply-To: <178684987.20040220120240@inbox.ru> References: <178684987.20040220120240@inbox.ru> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.9claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NAT, netstat, etc. X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 10:46:48 -0000 On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:02:40 +0300 DerAlSem wrote: > Hello freebsd-newbies, > > So, i've got NAT. It is working. And, i've got some program on my > WinXP workstation. ANd it's not working. So, is there a way to see > all net connections in real-time? For example, i run something on > server, and when run my prog on WinXP, and server shows me, where > this prog connects to, which protocols are used and etc. netstat -- IOnut Unregistered ;) FreeBSD user From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 20 19:10:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20AB316A4CE for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 19:10:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AC5A43D1F for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 19:10:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sue@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (sue@localhost [127.0.0.1]) i1L3A2bv079351 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 19:10:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sue@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from sue@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i1L3A2xM079348 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 19:10:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sue) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 19:10:02 -0800 (PST) From: Sue Blake Message-Id: <200402210310.i1L3A2xM079348@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Newbies FAK X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 03:10:03 -0000 FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. 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Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. We can help people to use the FreeBSD mailing lists and resources, or to interact more productively with the broader FreeBSD community. These are not support questions, and not technical, so we deal with them here. Everyone can help with these new user orientation requests. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ Mailing list membership To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Use the easy form at http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies to subscribe to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list, or to change your subscription details if you are already a member. To Unsubscribe from FreeBSD-Newbies: To stop receiving list emails, simply follow the unsubscribe link that appears at the bottom of each email you receive from the mailing list. Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org is distributed to all members of the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. _________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 21 00:53:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE2C016A4CE for ; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 00:53:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from pike.mail.pike.ru (pike.mail.pike.ru [194.135.18.234]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E40043D2F for ; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 00:53:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from DerAlSem@inbox.ru) Received: (qmail 37848 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2004 08:56:10 -0000 Received: from deralsem.pikenet.ru (HELO DERALDO) (194.135.17.85) by pike.mail.pike.ru with SMTP; 21 Feb 2004 08:56:10 -0000 Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 11:53:05 +0300 From: DerAlSem X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1893808594.20040221115305@inbox.ru> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Building kernel. X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: DerAlSem List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 08:53:09 -0000 Hello freebsd-newbies, I have Pentium 200 MMX, 128 MB ram, FreeBSD 5.1. How long does it take to recompile kernel? Last time i've waited about 5 hour, then stopped the process... -- Best regards, DerAlSem mailto:DerAlSem@inbox.ru From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 21 02:17:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5495416A4CE for ; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 02:17:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from out009.verizon.net (out009pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2383243D2F for ; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 02:17:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@pcmedx.com) Received: from duron.pcmedx.com ([4.46.22.189]) by out009.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20040221101707.KDTQ11926.out009.verizon.net@duron.pcmedx.com>; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 04:17:07 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by duron.pcmedx.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5620AC18; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 02:17:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from duron.pcmedx.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (duron.pcmedx.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02022-03; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 02:17:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mike (mike.pcmedx.com [192.168.240.244]) by duron.pcmedx.com (Postfix) with SMTP id EB9B2AC06; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 02:17:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <000e01c3f863$dae07620$f4f0a8c0@pcmedx.com> From: "Mike Maltese" To: References: <1893808594.20040221115305@inbox.ru> Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 02:17:05 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd (http://www.amavis.org) and f-prot (http://www.f-prot.com) at pcmedx.com X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out009.verizon.net from [4.46.22.189] at Sat, 21 Feb 2004 04:17:07 -0600 cc: DerAlSem Subject: Re: Building kernel. X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 10:17:08 -0000 > I have Pentium 200 MMX, 128 MB ram, FreeBSD 5.1. How long does it > take to recompile kernel? Last time i've waited about 5 hour, then > stopped the process... If you're not upgrading, you can add this line in /etc/make.conf: NO_MODULES=true This will signifigantly reduce kernel compile time. As an alternative, you can use MODULES_OVERRIDE, where you can list the modules you need and then only those are built. Example: MODULES_OVERRIDE= vinum ntfs splash vesa ...so on and so forth From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 21 05:47:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 659A816A4CE for ; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 05:47:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from pike.mail.pike.ru (pike.mail.pike.ru [194.135.18.234]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ED5643D1D for ; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 05:47:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from DerAlSem@inbox.ru) Received: (qmail 4771 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2004 13:50:12 -0000 Received: from deralsem.pikenet.ru (HELO DERALDO) (194.135.17.85) by pike.mail.pike.ru with SMTP; 21 Feb 2004 13:50:12 -0000 Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 16:47:09 +0300 From: DerAlSem X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1029890250.20040221164709@inbox.ru> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <000e01c3f863$dae07620$f4f0a8c0@pcmedx.com> References: <1893808594.20040221115305@inbox.ru> <000e01c3f863$dae07620$f4f0a8c0@pcmedx.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re[2]: Building kernel. X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: DerAlSem List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 13:47:11 -0000 Hello Mike, Saturday, February 21, 2004, 1:17:05 PM, you wrote: >> I have Pentium 200 MMX, 128 MB ram, FreeBSD 5.1. How long does it >> take to recompile kernel? Last time i've waited about 5 hour, then >> stopped the process... MM> If you're not upgrading, you can add this line in /etc/make.conf: MM> NO_MODULES=true MM> This will signifigantly reduce kernel compile time. As an alternative, you MM> can use MODULES_OVERRIDE, where you can list the modules you need and then MM> only those are built. MM> Example: MM> MODULES_OVERRIDE= vinum ntfs splash vesa MM> ...so on and so forth O, thanks, but now there are 2 more questions: 1. I still do not know exact (approx) time of compiling kernel on systems like mine. 2. Where can i read about modules, their names and descriptions? P.S. I've already rebuilt my kernel w\o modules, but one of my prog won't compile without some of this modules, so i need more information `bout them. -- Best regards, DerAlSem mailto:DerAlSem@inbox.ru From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 21 07:32:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D20716A4CE for ; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 07:32:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from rdsnet.ro (unknown [62.231.74.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3740643D2D for ; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 07:31:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from itetcu@apropo.ro) Received: (qmail 14148 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2004 15:31:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO it.buh.cameradicommercio.ro) (81.196.25.19) by mail.rdsnet.ro with SMTP; 21 Feb 2004 15:31:57 -0000 Received: from it.buh.cameradicommercio.ro (localhost.buh.cameradicommercio.ro [127.0.0.1]) by it.buh.cameradicommercio.ro (Postfix) with SMTP id 0EBD0110; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 17:33:44 +0200 (EET) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 17:33:43 +0200 From: Ion-Mihai Tetcu To: Wouter , newbies@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20040221173343.37b34936@it.buh.cameradicommercio.ro> In-Reply-To: <1077316084.34376.3.camel@ops.ziso.net> References: <178684987.20040220120240@inbox.ru> <20040220124828.7570f9ea@it.buh.cameradicommercio.ro> <1077316084.34376.3.camel@ops.ziso.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.9claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: NAT, netstat, etc. X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 15:32:00 -0000 On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 15:57:59 +0100 Wouter wrote: > On Fri, 2004-02-20 at 11:48, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: > > On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:02:40 +0300 > > DerAlSem wrote: > > > > > Hello freebsd-newbies, > > > > > > So, i've got NAT. It is working. And, i've got some program on my > > > WinXP workstation. ANd it's not working. So, is there a way to see > > > all net connections in real-time? For example, i run something on > > > server, and when run my prog on WinXP, and server shows me, where > > > this prog connects to, which protocols are used and etc. > > > > netstat > > > > I like to use 'trafshow' for this. (pkg_add -r trafshow) Works very > well. > > greetings, > Wouter Or systat -n -- IOnut Unregistered ;) FreeBSD user From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 21 07:55:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B79A216A4CF for ; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 07:55:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from chaucer.statcan.ca (CPE0050fc727b74-CM014270107825.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.43.93.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC59643D1F for ; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 07:54:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@chaucer.statcan.ca) Received: from chaucer.statcan.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chaucer.statcan.ca (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i1LFrc0S043128; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 10:54:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@chaucer.statcan.ca) Received: (from mike@localhost) by chaucer.statcan.ca (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id i1LFrbQp043127; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 10:53:37 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 10:53:37 -0500 From: Mike Jeays To: DerAlSem Message-Id: <20040221105337.0ac5eddd.mj001@rogers.com> In-Reply-To: <1029890250.20040221164709@inbox.ru> References: <1893808594.20040221115305@inbox.ru> <000e01c3f863$dae07620$f4f0a8c0@pcmedx.com> <1029890250.20040221164709@inbox.ru> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Re[2]: Building kernel. X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 15:55:08 -0000 On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 16:47:09 +0300 DerAlSem wrote: > Hello Mike, > > Saturday, February 21, 2004, 1:17:05 PM, you wrote: > > >> I have Pentium 200 MMX, 128 MB ram, FreeBSD 5.1. How long does it > >> take to recompile kernel? Last time i've waited about 5 hour, then > >> stopped the process... > > MM> If you're not upgrading, you can add this line in /etc/make.conf: > > MM> NO_MODULES=true > > MM> This will signifigantly reduce kernel compile time. As an alternative, you > MM> can use MODULES_OVERRIDE, where you can list the modules you need and then > MM> only those are built. > > MM> Example: > > MM> MODULES_OVERRIDE= vinum ntfs splash vesa > > MM> ...so on and so forth > > O, thanks, but now there are 2 more questions: > 1. I still do not know exact (approx) time of compiling kernel on > systems like mine. > 2. Where can i read about modules, their names and descriptions? > > P.S. I've already rebuilt my kernel w\o modules, but one of my prog > won't compile without some of this modules, so i need more information > `bout them. > > > > -- > Best regards, > DerAlSem mailto:DerAlSem@inbox.ru > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I would expect a kernel compile on a machine like yours to take much less than 5 hours - more than 30 minutes would surprise me. -- Personal : Mike.Jeays -at- rogers.com Phone : 613-724-4510 Work : Mike.Jeays -at- statcan.ca Phone : 613-951-9929 FAX 613-951-0395 Web page : http://members.rogers.com/mike.jeays From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 21 11:12:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F08B16A4CE for ; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 11:12:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net (gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.84]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87F3F43D1D for ; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 11:12:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from dsc01-chc-il-209-109-240-129.rasserver.net ([209.109.240.129] helo=nbritton.org) by gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AucXt-0003VM-00; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 11:12:13 -0800 Message-ID: <4037AD88.3000701@nbritton.org> Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 13:12:08 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DerAlSem , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org References: <1893808594.20040221115305@inbox.ru> In-Reply-To: <1893808594.20040221115305@inbox.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Building kernel. X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 19:12:15 -0000 DerAlSem wrote: >Hello freebsd-newbies, > > I have Pentium 200 MMX, 128 MB ram, FreeBSD 5.1. How long does it > take to recompile kernel? Last time i've waited about 5 hour, then > stopped the process... > > > Compile time for my PPro 200, 128MB ram, FreeBSD 4.9 takes 1-2 hours, recompile of said kernel take 15-45 minutes. From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 21 12:35:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C9FC16A4CE for ; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 12:35:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net (gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.84]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75BB143D2D for ; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 12:35:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from dsc01-chc-il-209-109-240-129.rasserver.net ([209.109.240.129] helo=nbritton.org) by gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1Audqv-0004fE-00 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 12:35:58 -0800 Message-ID: <4037C12A.5000805@nbritton.org> Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 14:35:54 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: slice and partition layouts X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 20:35:58 -0000 I'm trying to find in depth info about the proper way to layout drives, slices, partions, filesystems, FHS in unix land, also in relation to server role types. I've read Chapters 2 and 3 from the FreeBSD Handbook and Chapter 16, from Absolute BSD but they seem to be lacking the detailed info I'm looking for. Basicly I need to know where the heck I put the 25gigs of data thats on are old NT server on are new FreeBSD server, In windows I'd just partion a drive in two (Drives C: and D:) C: for for OS and Programs and D: for Data but in unix the layout is hierarchical and data is stored all over the place (/home, /usr, /var)? /Nikolas From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 21 12:58:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D793C16A4CE for ; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 12:58:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from rdsnet.ro (unknown [62.231.74.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E371043D2D for ; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 12:58:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from itetcu@apropo.ro) Received: (qmail 13295 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2004 20:58:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO it.buh.cameradicommercio.ro) (81.196.25.19) by mail.rdsnet.ro with SMTP; 21 Feb 2004 20:58:13 -0000 Received: from it.buh.cameradicommercio.ro (localhost.buh.cameradicommercio.ro [127.0.0.1]) by it.buh.cameradicommercio.ro (Postfix) with SMTP id 1091219E; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 23:00:01 +0200 (EET) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 23:00:00 +0200 From: Ion-Mihai Tetcu To: Nikolas Britton Message-Id: <20040221230000.036500e6@it.buh.cameradicommercio.ro> In-Reply-To: <4037C12A.5000805@nbritton.org> References: <4037C12A.5000805@nbritton.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.9claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: slice and partition layouts X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 20:58:16 -0000 On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 14:35:54 -0600 Nikolas Britton wrote: > I'm trying to find in depth info about the proper way to layout > drives, slices, partions, filesystems, FHS in unix land, also in > relation to server role types. > > I've read Chapters 2 and 3 from the FreeBSD Handbook and Chapter 16, > from Absolute BSD but they seem to be lacking the detailed info I'm > looking for. > > Basicly I need to know where the heck I put the 25gigs of data thats > on are old NT server on are new FreeBSD server, In windows I'd just > partion a drive in two (Drives C: and D:) C: for for OS and Programs > and D: for Data but in unix the layout is hierarchical and data is > stored all over the place (/home, /usr, /var)? Please take a look at hier(7) (man 7 hier), it might answer some of you questions. No one could give you an exact advice without knowing what that server will do, how often data will change, the average file size, etc. Unix style has some advantages over the windows. For example, I have a database server, on which I have a separate slice for mysql's databases, a somehow big /tmp and "small" slices for / , /usr, /var. You should ask this kind on questions@ providing more information. -- IOnut Unregistered ;) FreeBSD user From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 21 13:47:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9427216A4CE for ; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 13:47:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net (gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.84]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 761DE43D1D for ; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 13:47:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from dsc01-chc-il-209-109-240-129.rasserver.net ([209.109.240.129] helo=nbritton.org) by gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1Auey5-0003h9-00 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 13:47:25 -0800 Message-ID: <4037D1E8.1010100@nbritton.org> Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 15:47:20 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org References: <4037C12A.5000805@nbritton.org> <20040221230000.036500e6@it.buh.cameradicommercio.ro> In-Reply-To: <20040221230000.036500e6@it.buh.cameradicommercio.ro> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: slice and partition layouts X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 21:47:26 -0000 Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: >On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 14:35:54 -0600 >Nikolas Britton wrote: > > > >>I'm trying to find in depth info about the proper way to layout >>drives, slices, partions, filesystems, FHS in unix land, also in >>relation to server role types. >> >>I've read Chapters 2 and 3 from the FreeBSD Handbook and Chapter 16, >>from Absolute BSD but they seem to be lacking the detailed info I'm >>looking for. >> >>Basicly I need to know where the heck I put the 25gigs of data thats >>on are old NT server on are new FreeBSD server, In windows I'd just >>partion a drive in two (Drives C: and D:) C: for for OS and Programs >>and D: for Data but in unix the layout is hierarchical and data is >>stored all over the place (/home, /usr, /var)? >> >> > >Please take a look at hier(7) (man 7 hier), it might answer some of you >questions. > Thanks will do. > >No one could give you an exact advice without knowing what that server >will do, how often data will change, the average file size, etc. Unix >style has some advantages over the windows. > General Purpose for a small company, Primary: SMB File server, intranet (Groupware, CRM) Secondary: Tasks related to primary, RDBMS, Email (IMAP), LDAP, etc. The bulk of that 20~25gigs of data is file server related. Disk Subsystem: 40GB Hardware RAID 1 (IDE), I also have 3 10GB/10k RPM, UW SCSI Drives for it but am not planning on using them (no room in server). Server: IBM Netfinity 3500, 333Mhz X2 (SMP), 512MB RAM > >For example, I have a database server, on which I have a separate slice >for mysql's databases, a somehow big /tmp and "small" slices for / , >/usr, /var. > >You should ask this kind on questions@ providing more information. > ok, but this is newbie related, is it not? > > > > From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 21 13:48:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93EF616A4CF for ; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 13:48:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net (gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.84]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BF4143D1F for ; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 13:48:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from dsc01-chc-il-209-109-240-129.rasserver.net ([209.109.240.129] helo=nbritton.org) by gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AuezE-0003rw-00 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 13:48:39 -0800 Message-ID: <4037D231.4010204@nbritton.org> Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 15:48:33 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org References: <1893808594.20040221115305@inbox.ru> <000e01c3f863$dae07620$f4f0a8c0@pcmedx.com> <1029890250.20040221164709@inbox.ru> In-Reply-To: <1029890250.20040221164709@inbox.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Building kernel. X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 21:48:39 -0000 See LINT, /usr/src/sys/i386/conf DerAlSem wrote: >Hello Mike, > >Saturday, February 21, 2004, 1:17:05 PM, you wrote: > > > >>> I have Pentium 200 MMX, 128 MB ram, FreeBSD 5.1. How long does it >>> take to recompile kernel? Last time i've waited about 5 hour, then >>> stopped the process... >>> >>> > >MM> If you're not upgrading, you can add this line in /etc/make.conf: > >MM> NO_MODULES=true > >MM> This will signifigantly reduce kernel compile time. As an alternative, you >MM> can use MODULES_OVERRIDE, where you can list the modules you need and then >MM> only those are built. > >MM> Example: > >MM> MODULES_OVERRIDE= vinum ntfs splash vesa > >MM> ...so on and so forth > >O, thanks, but now there are 2 more questions: >1. I still do not know exact (approx) time of compiling kernel on >systems like mine. >2. Where can i read about modules, their names and descriptions? > >P.S. I've already rebuilt my kernel w\o modules, but one of my prog >won't compile without some of this modules, so i need more information >`bout them. > > > > > From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 21 20:30:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75F2416A4CF for ; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 20:30:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from imo-d22.mx.aol.com (imo-d22.mx.aol.com [205.188.144.208]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2430743D31 for ; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 20:30:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from NeuralDecimation@aol.com) Received: from NeuralDecimation@aol.com by imo-d22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r4.14.) id n.1df.19cab953 (4222) for ; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 23:29:49 -0500 (EST) From: NeuralDecimation@aol.com Message-ID: <1df.19cab953.2d698a3d@aol.com> Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 23:29:49 EST To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5007 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: downloading/installing GNOME X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 04:30:01 -0000 i've tried all this stuff with creating my own installation media and trying to download the program. i have no idea what to substitute for an ARCH, dont know what that is although i can figure out kinda for the version i wanted the disc1.iso i can't figure half of this stuff out and generally i take pretty quickly to this type of stuff. but it seems that alot of the information on these pages is pretty vague to me and i dont know alot of these terms and finding a download site that actually downloads. i've already been here (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install.html) and i couldn't find a place to download from that actually worked. i dont know if you can help me at all or if you even want to, but if you could i'd greatly appreciate it. also, is there a place where i can order a copy of GNOME with an image already burnt to a CD? thanks From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 21 21:51:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D96D16A4CE for ; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 21:51:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from idiom.com (idiom.com [216.240.32.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BE5343D1F for ; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 21:51:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from druid45@idiom.com) Received: from idiom.com (2d30ffc1ee241b6ab4b50c9e48679bcd@216-240-49-36.ip.idiom.com [216.240.49.36]) by idiom.com (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i1M5pRuI008641 for ; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 21:51:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from druid45@idiom.com) Message-ID: <40384368.4030407@idiom.com> Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 21:51:36 -0800 From: Chris Neustrup User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.6b) Gecko/20040221 Thunderbird/0.4 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: newbies@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: pcmcia card slot on 5.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 05:51:28 -0000 I have built a good 5.2 release on a T20 thinkpad. It connects successfully through the xl0 ethernet to my ISP. I want to use a LinkSYS 54G wireless card for this connection. How do I get the card slot to be recognized? I looked at the kernel config, and pccard config, but no joy. tia, cn. From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 21 22:15:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4694516A4CE for ; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 22:15:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com (sea1-f25.sea1.hotmail.com [207.68.163.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D87B43D1D for ; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 22:15:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from crollins666@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 22:15:02 -0800 Received: from 216.19.22.118 by sea1fd.sea1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 06:15:02 GMT X-Originating-IP: [216.19.22.118] X-Originating-Email: [crollins666@hotmail.com] X-Sender: crollins666@hotmail.com From: "clayton rollins" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 06:15:02 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Feb 2004 06:15:02.0754 (UTC) FILETIME=[351CC420:01C3F90B] cc: NeuralDecimation@aol.com Subject: Re: downloading/installing GNOME X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 06:15:03 -0000 Hi NeuralDecimal, (disclaimer - as this -newbies, I'm not allowed to give any real technical support; you'll have to write -questions if you need that. If I get close to technical advice, please disregard. I'm just writing this to help point you in the right direction(s).) On Feb. 21, 2004 wrote: > >i've tried all this stuff with creating my own installation media and >trying to download the program. i have no idea what to substitute for an >ARCH, dont know what that is although i can figure out kinda for the >version i wanted the disc1.iso For ARCH, it means architecture of your system. Most PCs are still i386 architecture. (the others are 64-bit computers, etc.) disc1.iso is the installation image. >i can't figure half of this stuff out and generally i take pretty quickly >to this type of stuff. but it seems that alot of the information on these >pages is pretty vague to me and i dont know alot of these terms and finding >a download site that actually downloads. i've already been here >(http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install.html) >and i couldn't find a place to download from that actually worked. i dont >know if you can help me at all or if you even want to, but if you could i'd >greatly appreciate it. also, is there a place where i can order a copy of >GNOME with an image already burnt to a CD? thanks > The installation media in question is for _FreeBSD_ (the OS), not Gnome (the desktop app./window manager). Though, Gnome is included on the installtion CD. (I don't know if gnome offers CD's for their software...) As far as where to get the iso's, the ftp sites listed here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors-ftp.html have always served me well. If you want to buy a CD for FreeBSD, you can do so from any of these companies:: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors.html#MIRRORS-CDROM On a side note, you seem to think we would be unlikely to help you. This is definitely not the case; the community is generally excited by new people. However, you may get short answers from people who feel you haven't done your homework (RTFM). Keep in mind that the "vague" documentation was done for free by people who felt they could contribute in that way. (You are expected to read it until you understand it, looking for other doc.s to fill in the parts you don't understand; that's why it was written. ie. the writer spent a _lot_ more time making the document to avoid repeated questions.) If your answer's not there, though, it's not there. So, do feel free to write the lists. (In my experience, every question I've had has been covered in the doc.s, though sometimes it took a bit of digging/researching to find/understand.) Regards, Clayton PS. write us back on -newbies if you want to keep us informed of your progress, if you need moral support, or if you just want to chat. :) _________________________________________________________________ Get fast, reliable access with MSN 9 Dial-up. Click here for Special Offer! http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200361ave/direct/01/ From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 21 22:59:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C01C16A4CE for ; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 22:59:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp120.tiscali.dk (smtp120.tiscali.dk [62.79.79.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E02B443D1F for ; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 22:59:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from niel@telia.com) Received: from localhostsu (47.ppp144.rsd.worldonline.se [213.204.144.47]) by smtp120.tiscali.dk (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id i1M6xhmM064222 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 07:59:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from niel@telia.com) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Niel To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 13:02:56 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.4] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200402211258.13361.niel@telia.com> Subject: I have a dream, of a help/manual/doc system, which is simple to use? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 06:59:52 -0000 Written 21st january 2004. I have a dream, of a help/manual/doc system, which is simple to use? I have a dream, of a help/manual/doc system, which is simple, and yet=20 comprehensive to use. When I need help to some question, when using freebsd, I often get very=20 confused, and cannot find out how to do it. Often I find some manual, but then pages and pages start scrolling past m= y=20 eyes, and soon I am very confused, and my brain looses track of what it=20 trying to do. Often there is some tecnical abbreviations mixed into the=20 explanation, which we do not know at all, what is! There exist a very comprehensive documentation for freebsd, man, faq etc.= So=20 far, that is very good. Leave it as it is. That is okay for later reading= =2E But what I am searching for, is very short manuals for every topic and=20 program. How to install it, where the files are sitting, how to set-up. Just a very simple example, for just to get a basic program running. And = also=20 a very basic example for using the program, so you at least are getting i= t up=20 and running. Then you can later experiment with more complicated items an= d the=20 programs. I am also in search for a very big handbook, with cross reference word, f= or=20 ALL words. So you can find out, where to look, every thinkable word you m= ight=20 meet, when installing and using freebsd. I am a newbee, and I cannot simply remember, where I last read -or found = a=20 subject. I mean, most endusers simply do not have such a glue brain, that= =20 they can remember. (Many times they simply tells themselves: "Let me stay= =20 with windows. That I am used to.) I have tried using linux red hat, caldera and suse, and I have now begun = using=20 FreeBSD, and I find it the best system so far, with the most easy help=20 system. Nothing wrong with that. To sum up. Please simple manuals for all the some 6.000 programs, shell=20 commands, etc, with lots of simple to understand examples, so one at leas= t=20 can get started. This is just a newbees hottest wish. Even Microsoft have not yet found out, how important above is. It is the = alpha=20 and omega, for using operating systems and programs, for ordinary people.= ( I=20 have even found the same problems in manuals for tv, video and so on. ) I mean many people have difficulties just reading a simple explanation. It is okay, to make very sophisticated programs, but it is as important, = that=20 the enduser can find out, how to use it. And, please use simple English words. We enduser come from all parts of t= he=20 world, and do not all have the English language as our native language. A= nd=20 please no humour! :-) If you live in Africa, you do not know American sla= ng? Yes, I still have a dream ..... *smiling - positive* Regards,=20 A freebsd "Grassroot", hoping to saw just a tiny seed in some smart=20 programmers mind, so we can start begin really using UNIX type operating=20 systems, instead og windows 98! *serious - thinking - :-) * From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 21 23:53:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9CF516A4CE for ; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 23:53:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com (sea1-f99.sea1.hotmail.com [207.68.163.99]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A15C643D2D for ; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 23:53:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from crollins666@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 23:53:40 -0800 Received: from 216.19.22.118 by sea1fd.sea1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 07:53:40 GMT X-Originating-IP: [216.19.22.118] X-Originating-Email: [crollins666@hotmail.com] X-Sender: crollins666@hotmail.com From: "clayton rollins" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 07:53:40 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Feb 2004 07:53:40.0424 (UTC) FILETIME=[FC518C80:01C3F918] Subject: Re: I have a dream, of a help/manual/doc system, which is simple to use? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 07:53:40 -0000 Niel wrote: > >Written 21st january 2004. > >I have a dream, of a help/manual/doc system, which is simple to use? > >I have a dream, of a help/manual/doc system, which is simple, and yet >comprehensive to use. > >When I need help to some question, when using freebsd, I often get very >confused, and cannot find out how to do it. > >Often I find some manual, but then pages and pages start scrolling past my >eyes, and soon I am very confused, and my brain looses track of what it >trying to do. Often there is some tecnical abbreviations mixed into the >explanation, which we do not know at all, what is! > >There exist a very comprehensive documentation for freebsd, man, faq etc. >So far, that is very good. Leave it as it is. That is okay for later >reading. > >But what I am searching for, is very short manuals for every topic and >program. How to install it, where the files are sitting, how to set-up. >Just a very simple example, for just to get a basic program running. And >also a very basic example for using the program, so you at least are >getting it up and running. Then you can later experiment with more >complicated items and the programs. > >I am also in search for a very big handbook, with cross reference word, for >ALL words. So you can find out, where to look, every thinkable word you >might meet, when installing and using freebsd. > >I am a newbee, and I cannot simply remember, where I last read -or found a >subject. I mean, most endusers simply do not have such a glue brain, that >they can remember. (Many times they simply tells themselves: "Let me stay >with windows. That I am used to.) > >I have tried using linux red hat, caldera and suse, and I have now begun >using FreeBSD, and I find it the best system so far, with the most easy >help system. Nothing wrong with that. > >To sum up. Please simple manuals for all the some 6.000 programs, shell >commands, etc, with lots of simple to understand examples, so one at least >can get started. > >This is just a newbees hottest wish. > >Even Microsoft have not yet found out, how important above is. It is the >alpha and omega, for using operating systems and programs, for ordinary >people. ( I have even found the same problems in manuals for tv, video and >so on. ) > >I mean many people have difficulties just reading a simple explanation. > >It is okay, to make very sophisticated programs, but it is as important, >that the enduser can find out, how to use it. > >And, please use simple English words. We enduser come from all parts of the >world, and do not all have the English language as our native language. And >please no humour! :-) If you live in Africa, you do not know American >slang? > >Yes, I still have a dream ..... *smiling - positive* > >Regards, > >A freebsd "Grassroot", hoping to saw just a tiny seed in some smart >programmers mind, so we can start begin really using UNIX type operating >systems, instead og windows 98! *serious - thinking - :-) * Hi Niel, You seem to have good fluency in the english language (congratulations), but I'll try not to use any slang. I share your "dream," but I see the problem as having many causes. For one, sysinstall should be easier to use. I find it rather easy, but conceed that it would give many windows users problems. While I, and many others, have ideas on this, no one has yet provided a solution. (The problem is much harder than it appears on the surface. And, much bikeshedding (no clear word in english; just means endless deliberation over specifications, impeeding implementation) occurs when the issue is raised.) (ie. I feel the primary problem is with new users having to turn to documentation to simply install a working system. Covering doc.s bit by bit while using the system is easy enough with the current system, I feel. And, many things can still be done with a point-and-click mentality.) Documentation such as you describe (crosslinked everywhere) would be wasteful for web-based implementation, but I could definitely see the usefullness for new users, on their local system. You might consider writing the doc. project to see if they're interested in producing that. (Or, give it a shot yourself and supply the project with any doc.s you come up with.) However, there are a few things you mention, example - shell commands, that are not the freebsd project's responsibility to document. Unfortunately, in many cases, this leaves you with the man pages and what you can google on it. There are a number of books on *nix and the common shells, though. While this could be done, I think we would both agree that improving/expanding existing documentaion is more important. Regards, Clayton PS. with such a well-thought idea, you might try to reach a wider audience. (-advocacy and -doc may have been good to CC; feel free to FWD the subject.) _________________________________________________________________ Say “good-bye” to spam, viruses and pop-ups with MSN Premium -- free trial offer! http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200359ave/direct/01/