From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 16 00:10:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1AF916A4CE; Sun, 16 May 2004 00:10:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org (nezlok.unixathome.org [66.154.97.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9603F43D1F; Sun, 16 May 2004 00:10:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@nezlok.unixathome.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AFF2AE0C5; Sun, 16 May 2004 00:10:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (nezlok.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15475-08; Sun, 16 May 2004 00:10:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 32441AE0BF; Sun, 16 May 2004 00:10:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20040516071002.32441AE0BF@nezlok.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 00:10:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at unixathome.org Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2004-04-25 - 2004-05-15 X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 07:10:11 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. 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Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . -- Dan Langille BSDCan - http://www.BSDCan.org/ - BSD Conference From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 16 00:30:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68E1D16A4CF for ; Sun, 16 May 2004 00:30:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com [24.94.166.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA28A43D2F for ; Sun, 16 May 2004 00:30:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kh-gokuu@mn.rr.com) Received: from cerberus (CPE-24-163-162-32.mn.rr.com [24.163.162.32]) i4G7UB9W002318 for ; Sun, 16 May 2004 02:30:11 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <002801c43b18$031e2e60$0200a8c0@cerberus> From: "hitokiri" To: References: <20040515190049.EA8F316A4D5@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 02:32:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: XFree86 help... X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 07:30:14 -0000 Hi! Thanks for the help with the drivers for my ethernet card; the internet works now. Well, except when I go onto to X; then my internet seems to work for about a minute after which I have to reboot the machine to get it back. Any ideas as to what this might be? Solutions would be helpful too. Thanks From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 16 10:32:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E62916A4CE for ; Sun, 16 May 2004 10:32:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotmail.com (sea1-f62.sea1.hotmail.com [207.68.163.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C94C943D39 for ; Sun, 16 May 2004 10:32:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from crollins666@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 16 May 2004 10:32:35 -0700 Received: from 216.19.22.118 by sea1fd.sea1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 16 May 2004 17:32:35 GMT X-Originating-IP: [216.19.22.118] X-Originating-Email: [crollins666@hotmail.com] X-Sender: crollins666@hotmail.com From: "clayton rollins" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 17:32:35 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 May 2004 17:32:35.0497 (UTC) FILETIME=[C6BC1190:01C43B6B] cc: philthom@freeshell.org Subject: Re: How to mount second drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 17:32:36 -0000 On May 16, 2004, "Phil Thomson" wrote: > >Hi all, > >Well, I got FreeBSD installed on my PC, but I can't figure out how to >mount my second hard drive and have it automount each time I boot. I have >a 3 GB drive on which I have the system installed, but I have a second 5 >GB drive I want to use as well. Do I just add a line to /etc/fstab? If so, >what should it say? I would like the 2nd drive to mount somewhere in /mnt, >which I guess is the usual location. TIA for any info. > >Phil > Hi Phil, Before I say anything else, I should say that this list is not for technical questions/advice. All questions should be sent to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org. (More to the point, I'm not allowed to answer your question here, so no answers will be found in this message.) I am allowed to help you find proper documentation. The handbook has a section describing mount and fstab: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mount-unmount.html Additionally, I found the man pages well-written. You might also research doing this through sysinstall, if you're adding a brand new disk. (Write -questions for advice as to whether this is appropriate; I'll just mention it as I found it easy when first starting out.) If you continue to have problems, feel free to write freebsd-questions@. However, you should probably include more info. about exactly what you're doing. Some questions I would ask: is the disk formatted? if so, what format? do you understand the partition (slice) information for the disk, or is that possibly what you're having problems with? what commands have you tried/what messages did you get? Best regards, Clayton _________________________________________________________________ Best Restaurant Giveaway Ever! Vote for your favorites for a chance to win $1 million! http://local.msn.com/special/giveaway.asp From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 16 16:53:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAF1F16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 May 2004 16:53:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay12-f66.bay12.hotmail.com [64.4.35.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 694A043D31 for ; Sun, 16 May 2004 16:53:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jackalbitz@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 16 May 2004 16:53:50 -0700 Received: from 65.28.194.249 by by12fd.bay12.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 16 May 2004 23:53:50 GMT X-Originating-IP: [65.28.194.249] X-Originating-Email: [jackalbitz@hotmail.com] X-Sender: jackalbitz@hotmail.com From: "jack dent" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 23:53:50 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 May 2004 23:53:50.0463 (UTC) FILETIME=[0946E0F0:01C43BA1] Subject: patches? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 23:53:50 -0000 Hello, I recently installed Freebsd release 4.9. I've looked at the errata and downloaded the patches, but I'm having a problem installing them. When I run: patch < /.../bind-836.patch it asks me "file to patch:" I'm not sure what to put there. I looked at the errata for what files it's replacing and tried putting those in there, but that didn't work. I looked in the newsgroups to try and find an example to work off of, but didn't find anything that pointed me in the direction I was headed. Can someone tell me where I'm supposed to look to find what file it's looking for? Thanks, Jack _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar – get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 17 23:43:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5496E16A4CF for ; Mon, 17 May 2004 23:43:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotmail.com (sea2-f15.sea2.hotmail.com [207.68.165.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7FE343D4C for ; Mon, 17 May 2004 23:43:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from khongs@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 17 May 2004 23:43:14 -0700 Received: from 210.186.169.110 by sea2fd.sea2.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 18 May 2004 06:43:14 GMT X-Originating-IP: [210.186.169.110] X-Originating-Email: [khongs@hotmail.com] X-Sender: khongs@hotmail.com From: "Khong SF" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 06:43:14 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 May 2004 06:43:14.0672 (UTC) FILETIME=[65197700:01C43CA3] Subject: gnome won't start X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 06:43:16 -0000 Hi I've been using FreeBSD 4.7-stable on a PIII box for a while. I tried for weeks to get the gnome1.4 desktop running but to no prevails. The problems i encountered were: 1) when gnome starts, it pop up a diaglog box saying " unable to find host adress for. please check the file /etc/hosts ...... blah blah blah" Then it gave me choices to continue/ try again, if i click try again, the diaglog box appear again & if i click continue, the blank desktop just freezed 2) My /etc/hosts file is OK, it looks like below: ::1 localhost localhost.my.domain 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.my.domain 3) my X11 & windowmaker (Enlightenment) start just fine, but every time when i exit the windowmaker, the same situation like problem 1) reappear. 4) the Xserver-error file in my home dir sounds like this: Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server Xlib: No protocol specified Gtk-warning **: cannot open display: :0 SESSION_MANAGER=local/:tmp/.ICE-unix/274 5) do i need Openssh in order to run X11 &/ gnome1.4 ? just what's wrong with my gnome desktop ? Many thanks to those who can help. regards, winter. _________________________________________________________________ Download ringtones, logos and picture messages from MSN Malaysia http://www.msn.com.my/mobile/ringtones/default.asp From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 18 03:16:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2782116A4F1 for ; Tue, 18 May 2004 03:16:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from t-rex.incirlik.af.mil (t-rex.incirlik.af.mil [132.27.151.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54B8043D6B for ; Tue, 18 May 2004 03:15:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Ozgur.Ozdemircili@izmir.af.mil) Received: from t-rex.incirlik.af.mil (root@localhost) by t-rex.incirlik.af.mil with ESMTP id i4IAFQj05746 for ; Tue, 18 May 2004 13:15:26 +0300 (EEST) Received: from inc-svr-navieg.incirlik.usafe.ds.af.mil (inc-svr-navieg.incirlik.af.mil [132.27.152.16]) by t-rex.incirlik.af.mil with SMTP id i4IAFPK05738 for ; Tue, 18 May 2004 13:15:25 +0300 (EEST) Received: from izm-exch-01.incirlik.usafe.ds.af.mil ([132.27.180.200]) id M2004051813152502976 ; Tue, 18 May 2004 13:15:25 +0300 Received: by izm-exch-01.incirlik.usafe.ds.af.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 18 May 2004 13:15:02 +0300 Message-ID: <7373DB1CFB205549B6A952E10BE0E6900B5877@izm-exch-01.incirlik.usafe.ds.af.mil> From: Ozdemircili Ozgur Civ 425 ABS/SGST To: "'Khong SF'" , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 13:14:56 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: RE: gnome won't start X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 10:16:13 -0000 For the 1st one you need to add the actual LAN or WAN ip address to the /etc/hosts for example: 10.10.1.1 quasar quasar.bla.net The 4th one also related to this one. And 5 You don`t need ssh to use gnome desktop Ozgur Ozdemircili http://www.enderunix.org http://haber.enderunix.org -----Original Message----- From: Khong SF [mailto:khongs@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 9:43 AM To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: gnome won't start Hi I've been using FreeBSD 4.7-stable on a PIII box for a while. I tried for weeks to get the gnome1.4 desktop running but to no prevails. The problems i encountered were: 1) when gnome starts, it pop up a diaglog box saying " unable to find host adress for. please check the file /etc/hosts ...... blah blah blah" Then it gave me choices to continue/ try again, if i click try again, the diaglog box appear again & if i click continue, the blank desktop just freezed 2) My /etc/hosts file is OK, it looks like below: ::1 localhost localhost.my.domain 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.my.domain 3) my X11 & windowmaker (Enlightenment) start just fine, but every time when i exit the windowmaker, the same situation like problem 1) reappear. 4) the Xserver-error file in my home dir sounds like this: Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server Xlib: No protocol specified Gtk-warning **: cannot open display: :0 SESSION_MANAGER=local/:tmp/.ICE-unix/274 5) do i need Openssh in order to run X11 &/ gnome1.4 ? just what's wrong with my gnome desktop ? Many thanks to those who can help. regards, winter. _________________________________________________________________ Download ringtones, logos and picture messages from MSN Malaysia http://www.msn.com.my/mobile/ringtones/default.asp _______________________________________________ freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 18 18:20:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23DD616A4D0; Tue, 18 May 2004 18:20:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from adslsapo-b4-143-68.telepac.pt (adslsapo-b4-143-68.telepac.pt [81.193.143.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DADED43D41; Tue, 18 May 2004 18:19:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DelaneyLaura@net.hr) Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 21:15:17 -0500 From: Dowdy-Calvin To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Message-id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ascii-us" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Freebsd-newbies X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 01:20:13 -0000 Freebsd-newbies bezel drury stylites centrist saucepan chime stein aloha harrisburg myocardium coltsfoot compound buxtehude Content is Loading . . . . 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i for one am unable to understand it Message: 1 Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 21:15:17 -0500 From: Dowdy-Calvin Subject: Freebsd-newbies To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ascii-us" From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 19 18:28:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D43EC16A4CE for ; Wed, 19 May 2004 18:28:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp011.mail.yahoo.com (smtp011.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B04C843D1F for ; Wed, 19 May 2004 18:28:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from r11roadster@yahoo.com) Received: from unknown (HELO Tarabon) (r11roadster@68.119.38.69 with login) by smtp011.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 May 2004 01:28:49 -0000 From: "Ronny Hippler" To: "freebsd newbies" Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 21:28:32 -0400 Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.20.2717) For Windows 2000 (5.1.2600;1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20040520012854.B04C843D1F@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: freebsd-newbies Digest, Vol 61, Issue 3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ronny Hippler List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 01:28:55 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 19 May 2004 15:30:25 -0500, jrrelay@juno.com wrote: >isn't this a strange message for freebsd-newbies? i for one am unable to >understand it No it is some moron trying to circumvent spam filters by putting so much gibberish in the message that it can't be classified. It amazes me to what lengths they go through. - -- ^ Ronny Hippler || Spartanburg SC http://www.ronnyhippler.com/ || ftp://ftp.vr5.dyndns.org:2112/ For PGP key email with "PGPKey" in the subject -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBQKwJwDeqiUsaKJ66EQKS+QCg9dfo8w+1tuMFmwwfyb+lFUUxZeMAoKQI Is2HKi76+RcSyvBhnZ4MufxS =aJHT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 19 18:33:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C405116A4CE for ; Wed, 19 May 2004 18:33:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mta9.adelphia.net (mta9.adelphia.net [68.168.78.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F36343D3F for ; Wed, 19 May 2004 18:33:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aekelly@aekelly.com) Received: from [192.168.0.101] ([69.163.22.11]) by mta9.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.08 201-253-122-130-108-20031117) with ESMTP id <20040520013308.BRWZ26615.mta9.adelphia.net@[192.168.0.101]> for ; Wed, 19 May 2004 21:33:08 -0400 From: aekelly To: "freebsd newbies" Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 21:33:27 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 References: <20040520012854.B04C843D1F@mx1.FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20040520012854.B04C843D1F@mx1.FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200405192133.28140.aekelly@aekelly.com> Subject: Re: freebsd-newbies Digest, Vol 61, Issue 3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: aekelly@aekelly.com List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 01:33:16 -0000 I wondered about that message myself. And yes, those are some lengths. On Wednesday 19 May 2004 09:28 pm, Ronny Hippler wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Wed, 19 May 2004 15:30:25 -0500, jrrelay@juno.com wrote: > >isn't this a strange message for freebsd-newbies? i for one am unable to > >understand it > > No it is some moron trying to circumvent spam filters by putting so > much gibberish in the message that it can't be classified. It amazes me > to what lengths they go through. > - -- > > > ^ > > > > Ronny Hippler || Spartanburg SC > http://www.ronnyhippler.com/ || ftp://ftp.vr5.dyndns.org:2112/ > For PGP key email with "PGPKey" in the subject www.aekelly.com | www.osvdb.org From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 21 15:33:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B60F116A4CE for ; Fri, 21 May 2004 15:33:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ms-smtp-01.rdc-kc.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.rdc-kc.rr.com [24.94.166.115]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9AF943D2D for ; Fri, 21 May 2004 15:33:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kh-gokuu@mn.rr.com) Received: from cerberus (CPE-24-163-162-32.mn.rr.com [24.163.162.32]) i4LMXHBm016974 for ; Fri, 21 May 2004 17:33:17 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <00d701c43f84$09628120$0200a8c0@cerberus> From: "hitokiri" To: Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 17:36:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: XFree86 help... X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 22:33:21 -0000 Hi! Thanks for the help with the drivers for my ethernet card; the internet works now. Well, except when I go onto to X; then my internet seems to work for about a minute after which I have to reboot the machine to get it back. Any ideas as to what this might be? Solutions would be helpful too. Thanks From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 21 19:10:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DE7F16A4D3 for ; Fri, 21 May 2004 19:10:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E63443D4C for ; Fri, 21 May 2004 19:10:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (sue@localhost [127.0.0.1]) i4M2AJ9Z055022 for ; Fri, 21 May 2004 19:10:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from sue@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i4M2AISX054986 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 21 May 2004 19:10:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 19:10:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Sue Blake Message-Id: <200405220210.i4M2AISX054986@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Newbies FAK X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 02:10:26 -0000 FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. It is also available at http://people.freebsd.org/~sue/newbies/fak.html FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. It is particularly important to send all installation questions and answers to FreeBSD-Questions so that they only appear in one place. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for FreeBSD help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. We can help people to use the FreeBSD mailing lists and resources, or to interact more productively with the broader FreeBSD community. These are not support questions, and not technical, so we deal with them here. Everyone can help with these new user orientation requests. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ Mailing list membership To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Use the easy form at http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies to subscribe to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list, or to change your subscription details if you are already a member. To Unsubscribe from FreeBSD-Newbies: To stop receiving list emails, simply follow the unsubscribe link that appears at the bottom of each email you receive from the mailing list. Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org is distributed to all members of the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. _________________________________________________________________