From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 07:04:05 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEF8C16A4CE; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 07:04:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org (nezlok.unixathome.org [66.154.97.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6A5E43D31; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 07:04:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@nezlok.unixathome.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6375A582E; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 00:10:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (nezlok.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17942-03; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 00:10:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B56F9580C; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 00:10:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20040919071002.B56F9580C@nezlok.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 00:10:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at unixathome.org Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2004-08-29 - 2004-09-18 X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 07:04:05 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. 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These are the articles posted during this period: 3-Sep : Disk cloning with Acronis True Image I wanted to use dd, but True Image did the job! http://freebsddiary.org/disk-cloning.php?2 1-Sep : Using a jail as a virtual machine Sharing the hardware, without the risk http://freebsddiary.org/jail.php?2 -- Dan Langille BSDCan - http://www.BSDCan.org/ - BSD Conference From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 14:35:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD8BF16A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 14:35:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79EC543D41 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 14:35:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drbista@gmail.com) Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 79so843531rnk for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 07:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.163.33 with SMTP id l33mr395176rne; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 07:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.209.6 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 07:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 20:20:08 +0545 From: "Dr. Sichendra Bista" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Multihead Consoles in FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Dr. Sichendra Bista" List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 14:35:10 -0000 I would love to explore if there are some people around who are working on or created multihead consoles in FreeBSD as stated at http://www.c3sl.ufpr.br/fourhead or http://startx.times.lv. (Please visit the links before I have successfully created one with FC1 Linux, but would love to know if there are someone in the BSD world. (I am thinking of migrating to BSD)! DSB From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 17:42:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAE8C16A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 17:42:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81A3E43D2F for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 17:42:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from robg.list@gmail.com) Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 79so891656rnk for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 10:42:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.82.75 with SMTP id f75mr651821rnb; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 10:42:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.83.59 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 10:42:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5c389d3b040919104228593a14@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:42:36 -0400 From: robg To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: can someone explain crontab to me better? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: robg List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 17:42:37 -0000 hi, i am having a hard time understanding crontab after reading http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/configtuning-cron.html .. i still can't understand the minutes/hours... when you specify minutes, does it mean the command is run every X minutes? and if you specify a hour AND minutes, the command is run every X hours for X minutes? so if i did */5 */2 * * * root /usr/libexec/locate.updatedb it would run that command every two hours for 5 minutes? so when two hours comes around, itll keep running that command over and over for 5 minutes? or will it run that command once every 5 minutes for two hours? im confused i just want to know the syntax to run something every 2 hours once .. can someone clarify this thanks -- robg robg.list@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 17:54:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53F0E16A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 17:54:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5512B43D31 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 17:54:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mayday@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 22530 invoked by uid 65534); 19 Sep 2004 17:54:41 -0000 Received: from pD95EE1AF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO [192.168.0.5]) (217.94.225.175) by mail.gmx.net (mp002) with SMTP; 19 Sep 2004 19:54:41 +0200 X-Authenticated: #431110 From: Benjamin Sobotta To: robg Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 20:04:40 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <5c389d3b040919104228593a14@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5c389d3b040919104228593a14@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200409192004.40547.mayday@gmx.net> cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can someone explain crontab to me better? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 17:54:43 -0000 Hi! Those entries have nothing to do with duration. The entry of you would run every two hours or better every even hour and then every 5 minutes like: 8:00 8:05 8:10 . 8:55 10:00 10:05 10:10 . . . so if you want something to run every two hours it should look like 10 */2 * * * root /usr/libexec/locate.updatedb This would make it run like 8:10 10:10 12:10 . . I hope this helps - and works :) Haven't tried it. Cheers, Ben On Sunday 19 September 2004 17:42, robg wrote: > hi, > > i am having a hard time understanding crontab after reading > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/configtuning-cron >.html .. i still can't understand the minutes/hours... > > when you specify minutes, does it mean the command is run every X > minutes? and if you specify a hour AND minutes, the command is run > every X hours for X minutes? so if i did > > */5 */2 * * * root /usr/libexec/locate.updatedb > > it would run that command every two hours for 5 minutes? so when two > hours comes around, itll keep running that command over and over for 5 > minutes? or will it run that command once every 5 minutes for two > hours? im confused > > i just want to know the syntax to run something every 2 hours once .. > can someone clarify this > > thanks From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 17:55:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85C4516A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 17:55:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41FA143D41 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 17:55:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tomjoyce@gmail.com) Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id v18so1270081rnb for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 10:55:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.11.80 with SMTP id 80mr6991rnk; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 10:55:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.179.57 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 10:55:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <67f3d6150409191055645dead2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:55:57 -0400 From: Tom Joyce To: robg In-Reply-To: <5c389d3b040919104228593a14@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <5c389d3b040919104228593a14@mail.gmail.com> cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can someone explain crontab to me better? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Tom Joyce List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 17:55:58 -0000 I believe that you would simply set 2 hours, as in: * */2 * * * root /usr/libexec/locate.updatedb That would run the script in /usr/libexec/ called "locate.updatedb" every 2 hours, taking as long as it needs to. Please correct me if anyone knows more about it than I do. Thanks... On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:42:36 -0400, robg wrote: > hi, > > i am having a hard time understanding crontab after reading > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/configtuning-cron.html > .. i still can't understand the minutes/hours... > > when you specify minutes, does it mean the command is run every X > minutes? and if you specify a hour AND minutes, the command is run > every X hours for X minutes? so if i did > > */5 */2 * * * root /usr/libexec/locate.updatedb > > it would run that command every two hours for 5 minutes? so when two > hours comes around, itll keep running that command over and over for 5 > minutes? or will it run that command once every 5 minutes for two > hours? im confused > > i just want to know the syntax to run something every 2 hours once .. > can someone clarify this > > thanks > > -- > robg > robg.list@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Thomas Joyce tomjoyce@gmail.com ceo@jafwebdesign.com From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 18:04:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5798216A4CF for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 18:04:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 066CB43D2F for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 18:04:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mayday@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 10316 invoked by uid 65534); 19 Sep 2004 18:04:28 -0000 Received: from pD95EE1AF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO [192.168.0.5]) (217.94.225.175) by mail.gmx.net (mp004) with SMTP; 19 Sep 2004 20:04:28 +0200 X-Authenticated: #431110 From: Benjamin Sobotta To: Tom Joyce Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 20:14:33 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <5c389d3b040919104228593a14@mail.gmail.com> <67f3d6150409191055645dead2@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <67f3d6150409191055645dead2@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200409192014.33009.mayday@gmx.net> cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can someone explain crontab to me better? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 18:04:34 -0000 hi again I'm not quite sure but I think your command * */2 * * * root /usr/libexec/locate.updatedb would make it run every minute every second hour. On Sunday 19 September 2004 17:55, Tom Joyce wrote: > I believe that you would simply set 2 hours, as in: > > * */2 * * * root /usr/libexec/locate.updatedb > > That would run the script in /usr/libexec/ called "locate.updatedb" > every 2 hours, taking as long as it needs to. > > Please correct me if anyone knows more about it than I do. > Thanks... > > On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:42:36 -0400, robg wrote: > > hi, > > > > i am having a hard time understanding crontab after reading > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/configtuning-cr > >on.html .. i still can't understand the minutes/hours... > > > > when you specify minutes, does it mean the command is run every X > > minutes? and if you specify a hour AND minutes, the command is run > > every X hours for X minutes? so if i did > > > > */5 */2 * * * root /usr/libexec/locate.updatedb > > > > it would run that command every two hours for 5 minutes? so when two > > hours comes around, itll keep running that command over and over for 5 > > minutes? or will it run that command once every 5 minutes for two > > hours? im confused > > > > i just want to know the syntax to run something every 2 hours once .. > > can someone clarify this > > > > thanks > > > > -- > > robg > > robg.list@gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 18:07:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9DC216A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 18:07:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A299443D3F for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 18:07:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tomjoyce@gmail.com) Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id v30so1295154rnb for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 11:07:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.179.69 with SMTP id b69mr7241rnf; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 11:07:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.179.57 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 11:07:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <67f3d615040919110752967822@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 14:07:26 -0400 From: Tom Joyce To: Benjamin Sobotta In-Reply-To: <200409192014.33009.mayday@gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <5c389d3b040919104228593a14@mail.gmail.com> <67f3d6150409191055645dead2@mail.gmail.com> <200409192014.33009.mayday@gmx.net> cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can someone explain crontab to me better? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Tom Joyce List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 18:07:27 -0000 Yes, I am sorry for that, I had not gotten your reply when I wrote and sent mine. :-) thanks. Thanks again, Tom Joyce tomjoyce@gmail.com On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 20:14:33 +0000, Benjamin Sobotta wrote: > hi again > > I'm not quite sure but I think your command > > * */2 * * * root /usr/libexec/locate.updatedb > > would make it run every minute every second hour. > > > > On Sunday 19 September 2004 17:55, Tom Joyce wrote: > > I believe that you would simply set 2 hours, as in: > > > > * */2 * * * root /usr/libexec/locate.updatedb > > > > That would run the script in /usr/libexec/ called "locate.updatedb" > > every 2 hours, taking as long as it needs to. > > > > Please correct me if anyone knows more about it than I do. > > Thanks... > > > > On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:42:36 -0400, robg wrote: > > > hi, > > > > > > i am having a hard time understanding crontab after reading > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/configtuning-cr > > >on.html .. i still can't understand the minutes/hours... > > > > > > when you specify minutes, does it mean the command is run every X > > > minutes? and if you specify a hour AND minutes, the command is run > > > every X hours for X minutes? so if i did > > > > > > */5 */2 * * * root /usr/libexec/locate.updatedb > > > > > > it would run that command every two hours for 5 minutes? so when two > > > hours comes around, itll keep running that command over and over for 5 > > > minutes? or will it run that command once every 5 minutes for two > > > hours? im confused > > > > > > i just want to know the syntax to run something every 2 hours once .. > > > can someone clarify this > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > -- > > > robg > > > robg.list@gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > > "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Thomas Joyce tomjoyce@gmail.com ceo@jafwebdesign.com From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 20 02:38:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E6EB16A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2004 02:38:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ozlabs.org (ozlabs.org [203.10.76.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2A3E43D48 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2004 02:38:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from blackwater.lemis.com (blackwater.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B20192BD6A for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2004 12:38:05 +1000 (EST) Received: by blackwater.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E53B0511FB; Mon, 20 Sep 2004 12:08:02 +0930 (CST) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 12:08:02 +0930 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: "Dr. Sichendra Bista" Message-ID: <20040920023802.GG67689@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="BU7+kJFeeDlNltZg" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Multihead Consoles in FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 02:38:09 -0000 --BU7+kJFeeDlNltZg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday, 19 September 2004 at 20:20:08 +0545, Dr. Sichendra Bista wrote: > I would love to explore if there are some people around who are > working on or created multihead consoles in FreeBSD as stated at > http://www.c3sl.ufpr.br/fourhead or http://startx.times.lv. (Please > visit the links before Well, it would be good to say what people might find there. They might be reading mail offline. > I have successfully created one with FC1 Linux, but would love to > know if there are someone in the BSD world. (I am thinking of > migrating to BSD)! I'm writing this from in front of seven displays. See http://www.lemis.com/grog/hardware.html for an older photo with only five monitors, also with a description of how I did it. I have these displays spread across four machines, one of them a laptop, while the one at http://www.c3sl.ufpr.br/fourhead is on a single machine. That's not an issue, though: if that's what you want to do, it would work equally well on one machine. Note also that you don't need four video cards for this configuration. The cards they're using come in dual-head versions, so two would be enough. One big difference between the configuration you describe and mine is that mine only needs one keyboard and mouse. I consider this a great advantage. If you really want separate keyboards, I suppose it would be possible, though I haven't investigated. If you want to follow up on the technical aspects of this sort of thing, FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org might be a better mailing list. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --BU7+kJFeeDlNltZg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBTkKKIubykFB6QiMRAq3BAJ9ZGYvQyJPgYfXk1mLK+t5aTrYFgwCfR0TK TKoOl85W/mwzJ6NRi2mpbP0= =D2oO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --BU7+kJFeeDlNltZg-- From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 20 03:01:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F30E16A4CF for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2004 03:01:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6678A43D46 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2004 03:01:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drbista@gmail.com) Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 77so1178178rnk for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 20:01:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.15.66 with SMTP id 66mr1360992rno; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 20:01:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.209.6 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 20:01:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 08:46:39 +0545 From: "Dr. Sichendra Bista" To: Greg 'groggy' Lehey , FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org, FreeBSD-newbies@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <20040920023802.GG67689@wantadilla.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20040920023802.GG67689@wantadilla.lemis.com> Subject: Re: Multihead Consoles in FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Dr. Sichendra Bista" List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 03:01:43 -0000 On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 12:08:02 +0930, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > On Sunday, 19 September 2004 at 20:20:08 +0545, Dr. Sichendra Bista wrote: > > I would love to explore if there are some people around who are > > working on or created multihead consoles in FreeBSD as stated at > > http://www.c3sl.ufpr.br/fourhead or http://startx.times.lv. (Please > > visit the links before > > Well, it would be good to say what people might find there. They > might be reading mail offline. > > > I have successfully created one with FC1 Linux, but would love to > > know if there are someone in the BSD world. (I am thinking of > > migrating to BSD)! > > I'm writing this from in front of seven displays. See > http://www.lemis.com/grog/hardware.html for an older photo with only > five monitors, also with a description of how I did it. I have these > displays spread across four machines, one of them a laptop, while the > one at http://www.c3sl.ufpr.br/fourhead is on a single machine. > That's not an issue, though: if that's what you want to do, it would > work equally well on one machine. > > Note also that you don't need four video cards for this configuration. > The cards they're using come in dual-head versions, so two would be > enough. > > One big difference between the configuration you describe and mine is > that mine only needs one keyboard and mouse. I consider this a great > advantage. If you really want separate keyboards, I suppose it would > be possible, though I haven't investigated. Thank you Greg, and I enjoyed visitng your site. Actually, I am thinking of a low-cost but stable FreeBSD MULTIHEAD CONSOLES, not just multihead which is already supported by XFree86 4.3.x as well as X.org. And such consoles are peculiarly important in the resouce-constraint developing world! And dual-head VGA's are very expensive in my part of the world and also not readily available. Most importantly, I am using nVIDIA GeForce MX 4000 with old S3 Virge/DX (I am interested to explore if there is any possibility that they want to discard their old machines in which such old PCI cards reside) I am searching for any knowhow how one can hack the BSD kernel? I know the configuration of XFree86. Actually, while creating such a multihead in Linux, we need to hack the kernel with a patch and then reconfigure some other devices like X server, sound and DMs! Actually, I tried to install FreeBSD 5.2.1 with bootable CD (iso image), I was amazed that it could not detect my hard drives though the BIOS settings and all other settings are intact. It reaches upto the HDD selection option and what happens is it just says that no HDD could be detected, though I have got two HDDs (Maxtor 40GB and Seagate 80GB. I want to install FreeBSD in 80GB partition.) I have already created 16 partitions at par with the linux partition scheme. In which I would love to allocate /dev/hdb1 as /boot, /dev/hdb7 as /, /dev/hdb10 as /var and /dev/hdb13 as /usr. I want to explore if I could share /dev/hdb5 (swap), /dev/hdb6 (/tmp) and /dev/hdb16 (/home) with my FC1 and other linux distros? > > If you want to follow up on the technical aspects of this sort of > thing, FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org might be a better mailing list. I shall als > > Greg > -- > See complete headers for address and phone numbers. > Thanking you for your invaluable time and irreparable cooperation. May you, your team and your family be successful in your mission, prosperous, healthy, happy, free from sufferings and in peace, always! Webocratically yours, Dr. Sichendra Bista, Chief Architect and Founding Secretary-General eParliament.org: The Pioneering OPERATIONAL Model of Webocracy Address for correspondence: C/o GIIS, GPO Box 10422, Kathmandu, Nepal Tel: +977 (1) 478 1160/478 2321 Web: http://www.eParliament.org Fax: +977 (1) 478 2321 Email: NetJustice@eParliament.org -------------------------------------------------------------------- Peace | Justice | Human Rights | Democracy | Development -------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 20 14:40:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10C9E16A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2004 14:40:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 967E043D45 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2004 14:40:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from beowuff@comcast.net) Received: from 204.127.205.143 ([204.127.205.143]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <20040920144048012007hf7je>; Mon, 20 Sep 2004 14:40:52 +0000 Received: from [67.168.33.63] by 204.127.205.143; Mon, 20 Sep 2004 14:40:48 +0000 From: beowuff@comcast.net To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 14:40:48 +0000 Message-Id: <092020041440.16112.414EEBF00003D9BE00003EF0220076370400009A99010A0D@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Jul 16 2004) X-Authenticated-Sender: YmVvd3VmZkBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA== Subject: package dependencies. X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 14:40:53 -0000 Hello, Not sure which mailing list to send this too, so I thought I'd start here... When trying to run portupgrade, it gets an error about a stale dependency : samba-3.0.6,1 --> heimdal-0.6.1. When I run pkgdb -F, I get "New dependency?". Not sure what I should put here... Any help on where I can look for answers, or where I should ask for help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, beowuff Yancy Burns From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 20 15:27:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89ABC16A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2004 15:27:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DDB443D2D for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2004 15:27:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drbista@gmail.com) Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 79so1229429rnk for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2004 08:27:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.82.34 with SMTP id f34mr287969rnb; Mon, 20 Sep 2004 08:27:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.209.6 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Sep 2004 08:27:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 21:12:31 +0545 From: "Dr. Sichendra Bista" To: Greg 'groggy' Lehey , FreeBSD-newbies@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20040920023802.GG67689@wantadilla.lemis.com> Subject: Re: Multihead Consoles in FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Dr. Sichendra Bista" List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 15:27:36 -0000 On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 08:57:34 +0545, Dr. Sichendra Bista wrote: > On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 12:08:02 +0930, Greg 'groggy' Lehey > wrote: > > On Sunday, 19 September 2004 at 20:20:08 +0545, Dr. Sichendra Bista wrote: > > > I would love to explore if there are some people around who are > > > working on or created multihead consoles in FreeBSD as stated at > > > http://www.c3sl.ufpr.br/fourhead or http://startx.times.lv. (Please > > > visit the links before > > > > Well, it would be good to say what people might find there. They > > might be reading mail offline. > > > > > I have successfully created one with FC1 Linux, but would love to > > > know if there are someone in the BSD world. (I am thinking of > > > migrating to BSD)! > > > > I'm writing this from in front of seven displays. See > > http://www.lemis.com/grog/hardware.html for an older photo with only > > five monitors, also with a description of how I did it. I have these > > displays spread across four machines, one of them a laptop, while the > > one at http://www.c3sl.ufpr.br/fourhead is on a single machine. > > That's not an issue, though: if that's what you want to do, it would > > work equally well on one machine. > > > > Note also that you don't need four video cards for this configuration. > > The cards they're using come in dual-head versions, so two would be > > enough. > > > > One big difference between the configuration you describe and mine is > > that mine only needs one keyboard and mouse. > > If I remeber right, are you referring to a keyboard and mouse sharing > utility like synergy.sf.net? Sorry that was a wrong link. I think your system may be just like this link: http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/ > > > I consider this a great > > advantage. If you really want separate keyboards, I suppose it would > > be possible, though I haven't investigated. > > > > If you want to follow up on the technical aspects of this sort of > > thing, FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org might be a better mailing list. > > > > Greg > > -- > > See complete headers for address and phone numbers. > > From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 20 15:59:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65EE216A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2004 15:59:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC32043D5C for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2004 15:59:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0); Mon, 20 Sep 2004 10:59:56 -0500 Message-ID: <414EFE77.5040002@daleco.biz> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 10:59:51 -0500 From: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040712 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: beowuff@comcast.net References: <092020041440.16112.414EEBF00003D9BE00003EF0220076370400009A99010A0D@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <092020041440.16112.414EEBF00003D9BE00003EF0220076370400009A99010A0D@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Sep 2004 15:59:56.0609 (UTC) FILETIME=[DFD75310:01C49F2A] cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: package dependencies. X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 15:59:55 -0000 beowuff@comcast.net wrote: >Hello, > >Not sure which mailing list to send this too, so I thought I'd start here... > > > Probably questions@ ... but I'm not gonna, technically, "answer" your question. I've got a great link for ya, though... >When trying to run portupgrade, it gets an error about >a stale dependency : samba-3.0.6,1 --> heimdal-0.6.1. >When I run pkgdb -F, I get "New dependency?". >Not sure what I should put here... > >Any help on where I can look for answers, or where I >should ask for help would be greatly appreciated. > >Thanks, >beowuff >Yancy Burns > > Great article by Michael Lucas: http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2001/11/29/Big_Scary_Daemons.html HTH, Kevin Kinsey From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 04:37:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFE6C16A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2004 04:37:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92.asp.att.net [63.240.76.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A1BA43D58 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2004 04:37:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from nbritton.org (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92) with SMTP id <20040922043714i9200kdpnge>; Wed, 22 Sep 2004 04:37:14 +0000 Message-ID: <41510179.8090406@nbritton.org> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 23:37:13 -0500 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org References: <092020041440.16112.414EEBF00003D9BE00003EF0220076370400009A99010A0D@comcast.net> <414EFE77.5040002@daleco.biz> In-Reply-To: <414EFE77.5040002@daleco.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: package dependencies. X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 04:37:16 -0000 Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. wrote: > beowuff@comcast.net wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> Not sure which mailing list to send this too, so I thought I'd start >> here... >> >> >> > > Probably questions@ ... but I'm not gonna, technically, > "answer" your question. I've got a great link for ya, though... > >> When trying to run portupgrade, it gets an error about a stale >> dependency : samba-3.0.6,1 --> heimdal-0.6.1. >> When I run pkgdb -F, I get "New dependency?". >> Not sure what I should put here... >> >> Any help on where I can look for answers, or where I >> should ask for help would be greatly appreciated. >> >> Thanks, >> beowuff >> Yancy Burns >> >> > > Great article by Michael Lucas: > > http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2001/11/29/Big_Scary_Daemons.html > > HTH, > > Kevin Kinsey Also don't forget this link (its like 2 years new then the one you gave): http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/08/28/FreeBSD_Basics.html From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 05:36:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FED116A4FA for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2004 05:36:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91.asp.att.net [63.240.76.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E6EC43D53 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2004 05:36:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from nbritton.org (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91) with SMTP id <20040922053627i9100s2736e>; Wed, 22 Sep 2004 05:36:28 +0000 Message-ID: <41510F5B.40905@nbritton.org> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 00:36:27 -0500 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hide110 , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org References: <200409140752.i8E7qKcx011377@in.flite.net> In-Reply-To: <200409140752.i8E7qKcx011377@in.flite.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Setting up Internet X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 05:36:31 -0000 hide110 wrote: >Sorry for the silly question, maybe I just haven't really been reading up >enough, but I have never really delved much into networks. Here's my current >setup, all my systems are connected to a small home office router which is in >turn connected to a cable modem. With my Windows machines I just plug a cat5 >into an empty slot and it's automatically assigned an IP. Some are setup as >static based on MAC and some not; regardless whenever it's plugged in it will >autodetect. > >During the FreeBSD installation it does not seem to pull any information down >when I choose DHCP, I foolishly did not enter in the required fields, & just >went on to setup XWindows. Where do I modify my network settings? What >command would I use? Can anyone point me in the right direction for getting >my internet setup? > You can do it a few ways, the easyest is to use sysinstall, login as root and type in "/stand/sysinstall" and hit enter. This will pop open what you remember as the install program, It's under Configure >> Networking >> Interfaces. The next option is to read up on "ifconfig", at a prompt type in "man ifconfig", use this knowledge to manually setup your NIC card. After you figure out the details for the ifconfig config and get the NIC card working, then you'll want to put those values for ifconfig into /etc/rc.conf (so read up on that too "man rc.config"). The easyist option for a newbie is to use sysinstall. also, read this: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/config-network-setup.html From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 21:40:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 671D816A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2004 21:40:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ADB043D39 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2004 21:40:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0); Wed, 22 Sep 2004 16:39:38 -0500 Message-ID: <4151F14A.1060101@daleco.biz> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 16:40:26 -0500 From: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040712 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Newbies Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Sep 2004 21:39:39.0060 (UTC) FILETIME=[A98E0740:01C4A0EC] Subject: Happy birthday 2 me... X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 21:40:29 -0000 Seems like at times it's hard to know exactly what's "on topic" here. I just caught the "boasting" line in Auntie Sue's FAK, so here goes, sort of :-) I recently noticed that "/var/log/FIRST.DMESG" on my desktop machine was a year old this weekend. One year of FBSD on the desktop. Been a few ups and downs, but by and large I'm lovin' it!! Haven't yet decided what to do with the hundred plus bucks I saved on licensing, though... (hmm, unless it's the modem, extra 1/2 gig RAM, 240GB HDD, new monitor, speaker/subwoofer set, etc., etc) But at least the software is free ... :-D Kevin Kinsey From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 23 01:36:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A55916A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 01:36:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp101.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp101.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [216.136.174.139]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EF59543D45 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 01:36:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from r11roadster@yahoo.com) Received: from unknown (HELO Tarabon) (r11roadster@68.119.38.69 with login) by smtp101.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Sep 2004 01:36:15 -0000 From: "Ronny Hippler" To: "freebsd newbies" Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 21:36:11 -0400 Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.20.2717) For Windows 2000 (5.1.2600;2) In-Reply-To: <4151F14A.1060101@daleco.biz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20040923013615.EF59543D45@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: Happy birthday 2 me... X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ronny Hippler List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 01:36:16 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 16:40:26 -0500, Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. wrote: >I recently noticed that "/var/log/FIRST.DMESG" on my desktop >machine was a year old this weekend. well I feel cheated all I have is dmesg.today dmesg.yesterday been little over a year for that machine though. - -- NO CARRIER...but I've got 2 destroyers and a frigate Ronny Hippler || Spartanburg SC http://www.ronnyhippler.com/ || ftp://ftp.vr5.dyndns.org:2112/ For PGP key email with "PGPKey" in the subject -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP SDK 3.2.2 iQA/AwUBQVIoizeqiUsaKJ66EQKLjwCfbyF3W9/y4iRzlWQ15MZwN6tb5VIAoKC8 zmqnZAIllHGnx5dmvip8G1n3 =m05S -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 23 02:01:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 351EE16A4D2 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 02:01:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp12.singnet.com.sg (smtp12.singnet.com.sg [165.21.6.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A4DD43D45 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 02:01:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mikecck@singnet.com.sg) Received: from Thinkpad (bb220-255-76-92.singnet.com.sg [220.255.76.92]) by smtp12.singnet.com.sg (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i8N20xfK013993 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 10:00:59 +0800 Message-Id: <200409230200.i8N20xfK013993@smtp12.singnet.com.sg> From: "Mike Chan" To: Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 10:00:56 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 thread-index: AcShESnne2ygTmcSRLC9chMM65V4wg== Subject: Survey on Open Source X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 02:01:02 -0000 Dear all, I am conducting a survey on open source software. This is for my academic coursework and dissertation. It will be great to have your support and participation in this survey. This survey has two separate questionnaires, focusing on the following areas: 1) OSS development (Developers or those who contribute in coding or documentation), and 2) IT/IS costs (CIOs or IT Managers). You are free to go for the questionnaire that is appropriate for you. Below are the links: 1) Brief introduction page: http://web.singnet.com.sg/~mikecck/opensource/Introduction1.htm 2) Questionnaire 1(Open Source Development): http://web.singnet.com.sg/~mikecck/opensource/WebFormA1.htm 3) Questionnaire 2(Open Source and IT/IS Cost): http://web.singnet.com.sg/~mikecck/opensource/WebFormB1.htm Thank you for your time. Mike Chan Student Curtin University of Technology From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 24 19:10:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4814E16A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2004 19:10:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ACB843D48 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2004 19:10:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sue@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (sue@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8OJAOTv060288 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2004 19:10:24 GMT (envelope-from sue@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from sue@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8OJAOcn060280 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 24 Sep 2004 19:10:24 GMT (envelope-from sue) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 19:10:24 GMT From: Sue Blake Message-Id: <200409241910.i8OJAOcn060280@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Newbies FAK X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 19:10:24 -0000 FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. It is also available at http://people.freebsd.org/~sue/newbies/fak.html FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. It is particularly important to send all installation questions and answers to FreeBSD-Questions so that they only appear in one place. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for FreeBSD help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. We can help people to use the FreeBSD mailing lists and resources, or to interact more productively with the broader FreeBSD community. These are not support questions, and not technical, so we deal with them here. Everyone can help with these new user orientation requests. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ Mailing list membership To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Use the easy form at http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies to subscribe to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list, or to change your subscription details if you are already a member. To Unsubscribe from FreeBSD-Newbies: To stop receiving list emails, simply follow the unsubscribe link that appears at the bottom of each email you receive from the mailing list. Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org is distributed to all members of the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. _________________________________________________________________