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Can't mount primary msdos slice on FreeBSD 5.1. Get:
"/dev/ad4s2 - invalid argument". The file for the
device /dev/ad4s2 exists - I see it by "ls". May be I
need some additional keys in the mount string?

Thanks,
Olga

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Forgive the repost.  The last was mistakenly threaded:

Hi!  Google is not looking promising on this topic.

I have 4.9-STABLE, a nVidia GeForce Ti 4600, VMware 3, installed 
through the ports collection.

When switching to full screen mode, the application terminates.

Any help you can give me would be most appreciated.  Thank you!

- T

---- VMware error messages.

Setting TMPDIR=/var/tmp.
VMware SLAVE PANIC: (MKS) BUG F(785):395 bugNr=1294
VMware SLAVE PANIC: (MKS) NOT_REACHED F(620):874 bugNr=5188
Panic loop

---- XF86Config  ("I am Newbie" warning...)

Section "Module"
    Load        "bitmap"
    Load        "extmod"
    Load        "dbe"   # Double buffer extension
    #SubSection  "extmod"
      #Option    "omit xfree86-dga"   # don't initialise the DGA extension
    #EndSubSection
    Load        "type1"
#    Load        "speedo"
    Load        "type1"
    Load        "freetype"
#    Load        "xtt"
    Load       "glx"
    Load       "dri"
EndSection

Section "Files"
    RgbPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local/"
    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/"
    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
#    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/"
#    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/freefont/"
    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
    ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier  "Keyboard1"
    Driver      "Keyboard"
    Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30"
    Option "XkbRules"   "xfree86"
    Option "XkbModel"   "pc101"
    Option "XkbLayout"  "us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
# Identifier and driver
    Identifier  "Mouse1"
    Driver      "mouse"
    Option "Protocol"    "Auto"
    Option "Device"      "/dev/sysmouse"
#    Option "Resolution"        "256"
    Option "Emulate3Buttons"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier  "monitor0"
    HorizSync   31-69
    VertRefresh 55-120
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier  "Device"
    Driver      "nvidia"
    VendorName  "NVIDIA"
    BoardName   "GeForce2 Go"
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier  "Standard VGA"
    Driver      "vga"
    VendorName  "Unknown"
    BoardName   "Unknown"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier  "Screen 1"
    Device      "Device"
    Monitor     "monitor0"
    DefaultDepth 24

    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       8
        Modes       "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        ViewPort    0 0
    EndSubsection
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       16
        Modes       "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        ViewPort    0 0
    EndSubsection
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth      24
        Modes       "800x600" "640x480"
        ViewPort    0 0
    EndSubsection
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"

    Identifier  "Simple Layout"
    Screen "Screen 1"
    InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer"
    InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"

EndSection

Section "DRI"
    Mode 0666
EndSection

---- dmesg ("I am Newbie" double warning...)

Copyright (c) 1992-2003 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
        The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 4.9-STABLE #0: Sun Dec 28 20:49:40 EST 2003
    root@wildflower:/usr/src/sys/compile/JER
Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) MP 1900+ (1600.07-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = "AuthenticAMD"  Id = 0x662  Stepping = 2
  Features=0x383fbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,
CMOV,PAT,
PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE>
  AMD Features=0xc0480000<MP,AMIE,DSP,3DNow!>
real memory  = 2146959360 (2096640K bytes)
avail memory = 2083819520 (2034980K bytes)
Programming 24 pins in IOAPIC #0
IOAPIC #0 intpin 2 -> irq 0
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor motherboard: 2 CPUs
 cpu0 (BSP): apic id:  1, version: 0x00040010, at 0xfee00000
 cpu1 (AP):  apic id:  0, version: 0x00040010, at 0xfee00000
 io0 (APIC): apic id:  2, version: 0x00170011, at 0xfec00000
Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0716000.
Preloaded elf module "linux.ko" at 0xc071609c.
Preloaded elf module "snd_emu10k1.ko" at 0xc071613c.
Preloaded elf module "snd_pcm.ko" at 0xc07161e0.
Preloaded elf module "nvidia.ko" at 0xc0716280.
netsmb_dev: loaded
Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled
md0: Malloc disk
Using $PIR table, 268435454 entries at 0xc00fdef0
npx0: <math processor> on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
pcib0: <Host to PCI bridge> on motherboard
pci0: <PCI bus> on pcib0
agp0: <AMD 762 host to AGP bridge> mem 0xe9300000-0xe9300fff,0xec000000-0xefffffff
 at device 0.0 on pci0
pcib1: <PCI to PCI bridge (vendor=1022 device=700d)> at device 1.0 on pci0
IOAPIC #0 intpin 18 -> irq 2
pci1: <PCI bus> on pcib1
nvidia0: <GeForce4 Ti 4600> mem 0xf8000000-0xf807ffff,0xf0000000-0xf7ffffff,
0xe8000000-0xe8ffffff irq 2 at device 5.0 on pci1
isab0: <PCI to ISA bridge (vendor=1022 device=7440)> at device 7.0 on pci0
isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0
atapci0: <AMD 768 ATA100 controller> port 0xf000-0xf00f at device 7.1 on pci0
ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0
chip0: <PCI to Other bridge (vendor=1022 device=7443)> at device 7.3 on pci0
pcib2: <PCI to PCI bridge (vendor=1022 device=7448)> at device 16.0 on pci0
IOAPIC #0 intpin 19 -> irq 5
IOAPIC #0 intpin 16 -> irq 10
pci2: <PCI bus> on pcib2
ohci0: <OHCI (generic) USB controller> mem 0xe9000000-0xe9000fff irq 5 at 
device 0.0 on pci2
usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support
usb0: <OHCI (generic) USB controller> on ohci0
usb0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0: AMD OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered
ums0: Logitech USB-PS/2 Trackball, rev 1.00/2.10, addr 2, iclass 3/1
ums0: 2 buttons
pcm0: <Creative EMU10K1> port 0x2080-0x209f irq 10 at device 4.0 on pci2
pcm0: <TriTech TR28602 AC97 Codec>
uhci0: <VIA 83C572 USB controller> port 0x20a0-0x20bf irq 2 at device 6.0 on pci2
usb1: <VIA 83C572 USB controller> on uhci0
usb1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci1: <VIA 83C572 USB controller> port 0x20c0-0x20df irq 5 at device 6.1 on pci2
usb2: <VIA 83C572 USB controller> on uhci1
usb2: USB revision 1.0
uhub2: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
pci2: <USB controller> at 6.2 irq 10
xl0: <3Com 3c905C-TX Fast Etherlink XL> port 0x2000-0x207f mem 0xe9001400-0xe900147f
 irq 5 at device 8.0 on pci2
xl0: Ethernet address: 00:e0:81:28:73:38
miibus0: <MII bus> on xl0
ukphy0: <Generic IEEE 802.3u media interface> on miibus0
ukphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
orm0: <Option ROMs> at iomem 0xc0000-0xce7ff,0xce800-0xcefff,0xe0000-0xe3fff on 
isa0
pmtimer0 on isa0
fdc0: <NEC 72065B or clone> at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0
fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0
atkbdc0: <Keyboard controller (i8042)> at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0
atkbd0: <AT Keyboard> flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0
kbd0 at atkbd0
vga0: <Generic ISA VGA> at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0
sc0: <System console> at flags 0x100 on isa0
sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300>
sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
sio0: type 16550A
sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0
sio1: type 16550A
ppc0: <Parallel port> at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0
ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/9 bytes threshold
plip0: <PLIP network interface> on ppbus0
lpt0: <Printer> on ppbus0
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
ppi0: <Parallel I/O> on ppbus0
APIC_IO: Testing 8254 interrupt delivery
APIC_IO: routing 8254 via IOAPIC #0 intpin 2
IP packet filtering initialized, divert disabled, rule-based forwarding enabled, 
default to deny, logging limited to 100 packets/entry by default
SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched!
ad0: timeout waiting for interrupt
ad0: 194481MB <Maxtor 6Y200P0> [395136/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA100
ad2: 114473MB <WDC WD1200JB-00CRA1> [232581/16/63] at ata1-master UDMA100
ad3: 76345MB <MAXTOR 6L080J4> [155114/16/63] at ata1-slave UDMA100
acd0: CD-RW <TOSHIBA DVD-ROM SD-R1202> at ata0-slave PIO4
Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a
vmmon: Module vmmon: registered with major=200 minor=0 tag=$Name: build-570 
(3.2.x mvm) $
vmmon: Module vmmon: initialized
vmnet1: promiscuous mode enabled
usb0: scheduling overrun
vmmon: Vmx86_ReleaseVM: unlocked pages: 1523, unlocked dirty pages: 250
usb0: scheduling overrun

Still with me?  If you happen to see kernel modules that look like I probably 
shouldn't have them, please let me know.  Most of the above still looks like 
hieroglyphs I ought to understand but don't.  Thanks!

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On Thu, 1 Jan 2004 01:23:07 -0800 (PST)
Olga Zenkova <siro200@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Can't mount primary msdos slice on FreeBSD 5.1. Get:
> "/dev/ad4s2 - invalid argument". The file for the
> device /dev/ad4s2 exists - I see it by "ls". May be I
> need some additional keys in the mount string?
> 
> Thanks,
> Olga

For 4.9-Stable, this works for me.  Maybe it is close for 5.1?

In kernel:
options         MSDOSFS                 #MSDOS Filesystem

Command:
mount_msdos /dev/ad3s8 /mnt

Of course, substitute your device.

- T

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>  31. Re: Problem with loading another pci driver for the same card
>      (Jan-Espen Pettersen)
>  32. Re: 5.2 RC2: Semi-deterministic gcc segfault during
>      buildworld (Gautam Gopalakrishnan)
>  33. Re: [freebsd-questions] snd_maestro3.ko load/unload (Tim Kellers)
>  34. Re: [freebsd-questions] snd_maestro3.ko load/unload (T Kellers)
>  35. Re: mail (horio shoichi)
>  36. getting rid of cron-sendmail messages (cb.z.ds@spamgourmet.com)
>  37. 4.3 to 4.9 upgrade woes (Marius Kirschner)
>  38. Re: 5.2 RC2: Semi-deterministic gcc segfault during
>      buildworld (Peter Schuller)
>  39. Re: Mounting CDROM as user under 5.x (Dany)
>  40. RE: 4.3 to 4.9 upgrade woes (Marius Kirschner)
>
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Message: 1
>Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 14:02:01 -0600
>From: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." <kdk@daleco.biz>
>Subject: Re: tar question...
>To: Chris <racerx@makeworld.com>
>Cc: Xpression <admin@atenas.cult.cu>
>Message-ID: <3FF32B39.2070906@daleco.biz>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
>
>Chris wrote:
>
>  
>
>>On Wednesday 31 December 2003 1:21 pm, Xpression wrote:
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Hi list, I've googled to search an aswer but no one match
>>>mine. I want to tar all files on a directory without include
>>>any other directory, I've tried with --exclude but no hope,
>>>any suggestion ??? Thanks...
>>>
>>>   
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>I dom something similar to what you ask. What I do is tar a directory and all 
>>it's contense EXCEPT one diectory. It goes something like this:
>>
>>tar -zcf  name.tgz --exclude MP3 dirname/
>>
>>Explanation:
>>
>>I'm tarring a dir. and excluding the dir MP3 and it's files.
>>I'm sure you will be able to expand on this.
>>
>>Use  man tar to see all the switches.
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>
>Sounds find, but wouldn't
>
>$tar /home/foo/*
>
>get this job done without including
>subdirs, since there's no -R involved?
>
>I read the OP's question as "I want to
>tar all the files in a directory without
>including any other directories..." which
>would mean "any (sub)directories within
>the directory would not be placed in the
>tarball", right?
>
>
>Kevin Kinsey
>DaleCo, S.P.
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 2
>Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 14:13:35 -0600
>From: "Micheal Patterson" <micheal@tsgincorporated.com>
>Subject: Re: ipf / pf availability in 4.9
>To: "Will Prater" <lists-wp@mercurycloud.net>,
>	<fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com>
>Cc: questions@freebsd.org
>Message-ID: <014501c3cfda$927b7350$4df24243@tsgincorporated.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Will Prater" <lists-wp@mercurycloud.net>
>To: <fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com>
>Cc: <questions@freebsd.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 1:27 PM
>Subject: Re: ipf / pf availability in 4.9
>
>
>  
>
>>On Dec 31, 2003, at 5:12 AM, fbsd_user wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>The post you are replying to tells you pf has been ported to FBSD.
>>>      
>>>
>>Yes, and my question was how to get a port to 4.9. I am aware of the
>>port being available for 5.0, 5.1.
>>
>>I would like to know if anyone has gotten it to run on 4.9 and what
>>patches were necessary.
>>
>>Thanks
>>    
>>
>
>
>Are you talking about PF or IPF in 4.9? If it's IPF, it's a kernel option.
>Check out LINT and you'll find:
>
>options         IPFILTER                #ipfilter support
>options         IPFILTER_LOG            #ipfilter logging
>options         IPFILTER_DEFAULT_BLOCK  #block all packets by default
>
>Also, you should be able to do a man ipf on 4.9.
>--
>
>Micheal Patterson
>TSG Network Administration
>405-917-0600
>
>Confidentiality Notice:  This e-mail message, including any attachments, is
>for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential
>and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or
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>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 3
>Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 20:09:28 +0000
>From: Peter Risdon <peter@circlesquared.com>
>Subject: Re: tar question...
>To: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." <kdk@daleco.biz>
>Cc: Xpression <admin@atenas.cult.cu>
>Message-ID: <3FF32CF8.60704@circlesquared.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
>
>Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Sounds find, but wouldn't
>>
>>$tar /home/foo/*
>>
>>get this job done without including
>>subdirs, since there's no -R involved?
>>    
>>
>
>-R means show record number. Recursive is the default, -n is no recursive.
>
>PWR
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 4
>Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 15:26:21 EST
>From: Pegpelca@aol.com
>Subject: I need several Linux developers to fill positions
>To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>Message-ID: <3b.42096f33.2d248aed@aol.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
>Kirk-this is Peg Pellegrino-remember me?--you were trying to connect me with 
>Andrew Frankel, MD---
>I started composing a letter to Dr. Frankel and stopped--don't want to step 
>on your toes--but I lost all of you information--I have now relocated to 
>Southern California--staying in Irvine at a Candlewood Suites (Temp) and I have been 
>sending resumes (better than the one you saw)--I have two pretty good offers 
>from practices in Beverly hills--don't want to jump too fast--wonder if you 
>know if Dr. Frankel is still looking?
>If you have the time-let me know--the idea of the new 'growing practice' 
>appeals to me alot---and he is wrong in his assumption that I am not familiar with 
>high profile patients.
>
>Peg Pellegrino
>pegpelca@aol.com
>cell   949-861-1450
>hotel  949-788-0500  suite 203                    Thanks!!
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 5
>Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 12:49:44 -0800
>From: Will Prater <lists-wp@mercurycloud.net>
>Subject: Re: ipf / pf availability in 4.9
>To: "Micheal Patterson" <micheal@tsgincorporated.com>
>Cc: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com
>Message-ID: <DCC257C3-3BD2-11D8-98F0-000A95DBBE34@mercurycloud.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
>
>On Dec 31, 2003, at 12:13 PM, Micheal Patterson wrote:
>
>  
>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Will Prater" <lists-wp@mercurycloud.net>
>>To: <fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com>
>>Cc: <questions@freebsd.org>
>>Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 1:27 PM
>>Subject: Re: ipf / pf availability in 4.9
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>>>On Dec 31, 2003, at 5:12 AM, fbsd_user wrote:
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>The post you are replying to tells you pf has been ported to FBSD.
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>Yes, and my question was how to get a port to 4.9. I am aware of the
>>>port being available for 5.0, 5.1.
>>>
>>>I would like to know if anyone has gotten it to run on 4.9 and what
>>>patches were necessary.
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>      
>>>
>>Are you talking about PF or IPF in 4.9? If it's IPF, it's a kernel 
>>option.
>>    
>>
>
>PF. I already have IPF working. I am more familiar with PF and would 
>rather be using it.
>
>Thanks
>
>  
>
>>Check out LINT and you'll find:
>>
>>options         IPFILTER                #ipfilter support
>>options         IPFILTER_LOG            #ipfilter logging
>>options         IPFILTER_DEFAULT_BLOCK  #block all packets by default
>>
>>Also, you should be able to do a man ipf on 4.9.
>>--
>>
>>Micheal Patterson
>>TSG Network Administration
>>405-917-0600
>>
>>Confidentiality Notice:  This e-mail message, including any 
>>attachments, is
>>for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain 
>>confidential
>>and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or
>>distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, 
>>please
>>contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the 
>>original
>>message.
>>
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>--will
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 6
>Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 15:09:41 -0600
>From: "Micheal Patterson" <micheal@tsgincorporated.com>
>Subject: Re: ipf / pf availability in 4.9
>To: "Will Prater" <lists-wp@mercurycloud.net>
>Cc: fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com
>Message-ID: <016f01c3cfe2$6a1b5300$4df24243@tsgincorporated.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
><snip>
>  
>
>>>Are you talking about PF or IPF in 4.9? If it's IPF, it's a kernel 
>>>option.
>>>      
>>>
>>PF. I already have IPF working. I am more familiar with PF and would 
>>rather be using it.
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>    
>>
>Ah. Ok. Misunderstood. 
>
>--
>
>Micheal Patterson
>TSG Network Administration
>405-917-0600
>
>Confidentiality Notice:  This e-mail message, including any attachments, is
>for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential
>and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or
>distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please
>contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original
>message.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 7
>Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 13:30:07 -0800 (PST)
>From: Philip Hallstrom <philip@eilio.com>
>Subject: List of absolutely required files for FreeBSD?
>To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>Message-ID: <20031231132734.S69497@gandalf.eilio.com>
>Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
>
>Hi -
>	I was wondering if there is a list of absolutely required files
>for FreeBSD?  I'm trying to trim an installation down as small as possible
>(to put on Compact Flash).
>
>If I start out with just the 'bin' directory for the release there's
>around 100megs of files.  Obviously a lot of them like ipfw I don't need.
>
>However, what about things like awk? I won't use it, but are there other
>parts of FreeBSD (ie /etc/rc.* files)?
>
>Is there a list somewhere that would help determine what files are used by
>FreeBSD for normal operation?
>
>Thanks!
>
>-philip
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 8
>Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 15:28:56 -0600
>From: Rick Pettit <rpettit@vailsys.com>
>Subject: FreeBSD as host OS for VMWare 4.0 (Linux Version)
>To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>Message-ID: <3FF33F98.7020107@vailsys.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
>
>Anyone have any success getting VMWare 4.0 (Linux Version) to run on 
>FreeBSD Current (i.e. as host OS)?
>
>What versions of VMWare do work well with FreeBSD host OS?
>
>-Rick
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 9
>Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 15:31:24 -0600
>From: Rick Pettit <rpettit@vailsys.com>
>Subject: FreeBSD as host OS for VMWare 4.0 (Linux Version)
>To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>Message-ID: <3FF3402C.6040208@vailsys.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
>
>Forgot to mention in previous mailing that I am not on the list, so 
>please cc me on any responses.
>
>Thanks.
>
>-Rick
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 10
>Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 15:46:33 -0600
>From: "Chad Albert" <Chad.Albert@myhealthcarefirst.com>
>Subject: mail
>To: <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
>Message-ID:
>	<433CEE75B1339547BBB373B340665384116B16@hfmail01.sgf.healthcarefirst.med>
>	
>Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
>
>I am writing a script that mails me when certain events occur.  I am
>using mail(1) to notify me by email when some things happen.  I have
>read the man page and I don't see a way to attach a file, does anyone
>know how to use mail(1) to attach a file?
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 11
>Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 13:46:29 -0800
>From: Sean Hafeez <sahafeez@edgefocus.com>
>Subject: Re: List of absolutely required files for FreeBSD?
>To: Philip Hallstrom <philip@eilio.com>
>Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>Message-ID: <3FF343B5.4030708@edgefocus.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
>
>what size flash?
>
>i have 4.9 down to 220mb for a 256mb flash.
>
>
>
>Philip Hallstrom wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Hi -
>>	I was wondering if there is a list of absolutely required files
>>for FreeBSD?  I'm trying to trim an installation down as small as possible
>>(to put on Compact Flash).
>>
>>If I start out with just the 'bin' directory for the release there's
>>around 100megs of files.  Obviously a lot of them like ipfw I don't need.
>>
>>However, what about things like awk? I won't use it, but are there other
>>parts of FreeBSD (ie /etc/rc.* files)?
>>
>>Is there a list somewhere that would help determine what files are used by
>>FreeBSD for normal operation?
>>
>>Thanks!
>>
>>-philip
>>_______________________________________________
>>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
>>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
>>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 12
>Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 22:48:49 +0100
>From: Pierrick Brossin <pbrossin@swissgeeks.com>
>Subject: isc-dhcpd weird effect
>To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>Message-ID: <20031231224849.17b6632e.pbrossin@swissgeeks.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
>Hi!
>
>I have a DHCP server at home (isc-dhcpd) and I've been wondering for a
>long time why it is giving the last IP addresses of the specified
>range at first?
>Like I tell him a range from 10.0.0.50 to 10.0.0.100 and it's giving 100
>then 99,98,97 and so on. Why not directly 50 then 51,52,53,... ??
>
>Should be someone who knows :)
>
>Regards
>
>-Pierrick Brossin
>http://www.swissgeeks.com
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 13
>Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 16:19:48 -0600
>From: "freebsd" <freebsd@thebeatbox.org>
>Subject: freezing with intel motherboard D865PERL 
>To: <freebsd-Draft@thebeatbox.org>, <questions@freebsd.org>
>Message-ID: <200312311619.AA47579434@thebeatbox.org>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>Hello all,
>I am having the following problem with a new system:
>the system will install (minimal) fine from cd, after install when i am attempting to do anything cpu intensive (for example compiling a port or a custom kernal) the console freezes, I am not able to switch to another console, or ssh in, or ping the box after a ping.  I was wondering if anyone else has had this type of problem...and more importantly found a solution.
>
>Box Specs:
>Intel D865PERL motherboard
>3.06 P4 CPU
>1GB DDR Ram
>40GB Maxtor HD (system)
>2 x 250GB Western Digital HD (storage, not used or configured yet)
>generic video card
>onboard intel nic
>
>FreeBSD dmesg:
>Copyright (c) 1992-2003 The FreeBSD Project.
>Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
>        The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
>FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE #0: Mon Oct 27 17:51:09 GMT 2003
>    root@freebsd-stable.sentex.ca:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
>Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
>CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz (2992.52-MHz 686-class CPU)
>  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0xf29  Stepping = 9
>  Features=0xbfebfbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE>
>  Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs
>real memory  = 1072889856 (1047744K bytes)
>avail memory = 1038860288 (1014512K bytes)
>Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc053f000.
>Warning: Pentium 4 CPU: PSE disabled
>Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled
>md0: Malloc disk
>Using $PIR table, 12 entries at 0xc00f3d20
>npx0: <math processor> on motherboard
>npx0: INT 16 interface
>pcib0: <Host to PCI bridge> on motherboard
>pci0: <PCI bus> on pcib0
>agp0: <Intel 82865 host to AGP bridge> mem 0xfc000000-0xfdffffff at device 0.0 on pci0
>pcib1: <PCI to PCI bridge (vendor=8086 device=2571)> at device 1.0 on pci0
>pci1: <PCI bus> on pcib1
>uhci0: <Intel 82801EB (ICH5) USB controller USB-A> port 0xcc00-0xcc1f irq 9 at device 29.0 on pci0
>usb0: <Intel 82801EB (ICH5) USB controller USB-A> on uhci0
>usb0: USB revision 1.0
>uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
>uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
>uhci1: <Intel 82801EB (ICH5) USB controller USB-B> port 0xd000-0xd01f irq 5 at device 29.1 on pci0
>usb1: <Intel 82801EB (ICH5) USB controller USB-B> on uhci1
>usb1: USB revision 1.0
>uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
>uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
>uhci2: <Intel 82801EB (ICH5) USB controller USB-C> port 0xd400-0xd41f irq 10 at device 29.2 on pci0
>usb2: <Intel 82801EB (ICH5) USB controller USB-C> on uhci2
>usb2: USB revision 1.0
>uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
>uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
>uhci3: <Intel 82801EB (ICH5) USB controller USB-D> port 0xd800-0xd81f irq 9 at device 29.3 on pci0
>usb3: <Intel 82801EB (ICH5) USB controller USB-D> on uhci3
>usb3: USB revision 1.0
>uhub3: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
>uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
>pcib2: <Intel 82801BA/BAM (ICH2) Hub to PCI bridge> at device 30.0 on pci0
>pci2: <PCI bus> on pcib2
>pci2: <SiS model 0325 VGA-compatible display device> at 0.0 irq 11
>fwohci0: <Lucent FW322/323> mem 0xff9af000-0xff9affff irq 12 at device 7.0 on pci2
>fwohci0: OHCI version 1.0 (ROM=0)
>fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channel is 8.
>fwohci0: EUI64 00:0c:f1:00:00:96:f8:a6
>fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S400, 3 ports.
>fwohci0: Link S400, max_rec 2048 bytes.
>firewire0: <IEEE1394(FireWire) bus> on fwohci0
>if_fwe0: <Ethernet over FireWire> on firewire0
>if_fwe0: Fake Ethernet address: 02:0c:f1:96:f8:a6
>sbp0: <SBP2/SCSI over firewire> on firewire0
>fwohci0: Initiate bus reset
>fwohci0: BUS reset
>fwohci0: node_id=0xc800ffc0, gen=1, CYCLEMASTER mode
>firewire0: 1 nodes, maxhop <= 0, cable IRM = 0 (me)
>firewire0: bus manager 0 (me)
>fxp0: <Intel 82801BA (D865) Pro/100 VE Ethernet> port 0xb800-0xb83f mem 0xff9ae000-0xff9aefff irq 3 at device 8.0 on pci2
>fxp0: Ethernet address 00:0c:f1:96:f8:a6
>inphy0: <i82562ET 10/100 media interface> on miibus0
>inphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
>isab0: <PCI to ISA bridge (vendor=8086 device=24d0)> at device 31.0 on pci0
>isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0
>atapci0: <Intel ICH5 ATA100 controller> port 0xffa0-0xffaf,0-0x3,0-0x7,0-0x3,0-0x7 at device 31.1 on pci0
>ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
>ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0
>atapci1: <Intel ICH5 SATA150 controller> port 0xdc00-0xdc0f,0xe000-0xe003,0xe400-0xe407,0xe800-0xe803,0xec00-0xec07 irq 10 at device 31.2 on pci0
>ata2: at 0xec00 on atapci1
>ata3: at 0xe400 on atapci1
>pci0: <unknown card> (vendor=0x8086, dev=0x24d3) at 31.3 irq 12
>orm0: <Option ROM> at iomem 0xc0000-0xcffff on isa0
>pmtimer0 on isa0
>fdc0: ready for input in output
>fdc0: cmd 3 failed at out byte 1 of 3
>atkbdc0: <Keyboard controller (i8042)> at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0
>atkbd0: <AT Keyboard> flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0
>kbd0 at atkbd0
>vga0: <Generic ISA VGA> at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0
>sc0: <System console> at flags 0x100 on isa0
>sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300>
>sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
>sio0: type 16550A
>sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
>ppc0: <Parallel port> at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0
>ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode
>ppi0: <Parallel I/O> on ppbus0
>plip0: <PLIP network interface> on ppbus0
>lpt0: <Printer> on ppbus0
>lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
>ad0: 39205MB <Maxtor 6E040L0> [79656/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA100
>ad2: 238475MB <WDC WD2500JB-00EVA0> [484521/16/63] at ata1-master UDMA100
>ad3: 238475MB <WDC WD2500JB-00EVA0> [484521/16/63] at ata1-slave UDMA100
>acd0: CDROM <OEM CD-ROM F564E> at ata0-slave PIO4
>Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a
>
>other notes:
>Generic 4.9 kernal
>I have tried 5.1 and 5.2 and have experianced the same freezing problem, which makes me think the hardware route.
>
>The box doesn't reboot when it freezes, so I don't think it is a temperature issue
>I have switched out the power supply as well as the motherboard (same model)
>
>Any thoughts or suggestions?
>
>Thanks for your time.
>
>
>Roland Wells
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 14
>Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 11:06:51 -0800
>From: Sean Hafeez <sahafeez@edgefocus.com>
>Subject: What do you use?
>To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>Message-ID: <3FF31E4B.1070305@edgefocus.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
>
>I need to build a file server for work. I was wondering what people on 
>the list use for a RAID solution?
>
>I would like to stick to an IDE RAID controller. RAID5 or RAID1.
>
>Also what do you recommend for a cheap tape backup?
>
>And before I forget, pls let me know if you are using it under 4.x or 5.x.
>
>I would love to do an external STA type setup but I am sure it is not 
>quite there yet under FreeBSD.
>
>Thanks for the info!
>
>-Sean
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 15
>Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 16:55:20 -0600
>From: Eric F Crist <ecrist@adtechintegrated.com>
>Subject: Tape backup solution? [OT]
>To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>Message-ID: <200312311655.20307.ecrist@adtechintegrated.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="us-ascii"
>
>Hello List,
>
>I have a question that's slightly off-topic, but not.  I install high-end 
>surveillance equipment for CCTV and such.  I have a rather large client in 
>Minneapolis who's using Dedicated Micros digital video recorders.  The 
>particular model we're using has a 500 GB hdd, but this client would like to 
>archive images to tape for longer storage.  As of now, we're only getting 
>about 2 months of recording time.  For off-site viewing, this unit can 
>off-load images to a SCSI cd recorder.  Does anyone suggest a tape backup 
>device that would be SCSI and external, with a fairly high-capacity?  I'm 
>thinking around 50 GB?
>
>TIA
>Chris tar exclusion problem
>  
>
 >

EXCLUDING FILES WITH TAR

Run this command

echo stuff > exclude <--- stuff is the directory to exclude dont forget 
to use >> if amending more directories the exclude file.

then run

tar cvXf exclude backup.tar /home/terry/ <----- the X is the exclude 
switch and f is the tar file name

they must be in the same order

Example below

tar cvXf exclude delete.tar /home/terry

Allso full path to exclude file is some times needed




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On Thu, Jan 01, 2004 at 02:48:42AM -0500, Marius Kirschner wrote:
> Okay, got ssh to work but mySQL gives me the following error when I try to
> start it:
>=20
> ./mysql-server.sh: 6: Syntax error: "&&" unexpected
>=20
> This worked just fine before???

Oh dear -- this again.  There was a lot of traffic on this list some
months ago when this first occurred.  You need to update your MySQL
server port, and copy the mysql-server.sh-dist that provides to
mysql-server.sh

What happened is that a /bin/sh bug was fixed, and consequently
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     foo & && bar

now generate Syntax errors.

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	wrote: > ok, how about something that works. 100gb? > IME, DLT works
	well and is pretty reliable. No tape backup solution is ever 'cheap',
	but DLT has been around long enough, and superseded by enough new
	technologies (LTO, AIT, etc,...) that it's certainyl at the lessuse
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On Wed, Dec 31, 2003 at 03:13:43PM -0800, Sean Hafeez wrote:
> ok, how about something that works. 100gb?
> 

IME, DLT works well and is pretty reliable.  No tape backup solution is
ever 'cheap', but DLT has been around long enough, and superseded by enough
new technologies (LTO, AIT, etc,...) that it's certainyl at the less
expensive end of the spectrum.  40GB (~80GB compressed) per tape.  We use
an 8-tape changer that usually holds enough for a week's worth of backups.
Any old DLT drive should work with FreeBSD, although you'll need a SCSI
adapter to attach it to.

I'd second the idea of a separate staging disk for backups, especially if
(like us) you're forced to use Windows software to actually put the backups
on the tape.  We have a 250GB drive that the nightly dumps from various
UNIX RAIDs go to - the tape system can then just pick up a few files via
Samba, at its leisure.  We can fit 1-2 weeks of compressed dumps on the
staging disk, so we rarely have to go to tape for restores, plus we no
longer have to use the (lame, slow, broken) Veritas UNIX Agent to back up
the UNIX systems.

As for RAID, we use Vinum, but only because I inherited a bunch of machines
with hot-swap SCSI bays and no hardware RAID.  It works well, once you have
it set up, and I've even managed to swap out failed drives without a reboot
:-)  I'll definitely investigate the 3ware cards when I need to build a new
RAID server, though.

Cheers,

	Scott

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On Wed, Dec 31, 2003 at 10:19:47AM -0500, Louis LeBlanc wrote:
> I'm having some strange problems with my SanDisk CompactFlash reader.

[snip]

> Any ideas or pointers to specific docs?

Is this on -STABLE?

I had to remove 'device ugen' from my kernel because I also had problems us=
ing
the automatic module loading. It seemed that having ugen statically compiled
into my kernel interfered with the umass module, but I haven't had the time
to dig into this deeper. Other than that I can only say that I sometimes
need to plug the reader in & out before it works.

I haven't tried my SanDisk with -CURRENT yet so no tips for that.

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Hi,

I've got an HP printer on USB port on Freebsd 4-Stable box. Printer is 
on /dev/ulpt0. Installed cups and printing from BSD is fine. 

Had samba installed and working great for filesharing. Now introduced an 
all printers share to share this printer. Printer is browseable from 
windows machine.

When I install this printer on a Win2K machine (and use local drivers) I 
get "Access Denied, Unable to Connect." Unlike some other people's 
experience I cannot print to the printer despite this message.

I've found lots of references to others having this problem on BSD and 
LINUX on the web but no resolutions. 

Of course, BSD questions is where all the really clever people hang out 
so someone here is bound to know ;-)

I couldn't find any resolution in the mailing list archive so does 
anyone know of an answer or is this a bug in operation between Winblows 
and Samba?

Below is the global and printers sections of my smb.conf. This was 
generated by webmin but I do understand and have written smb.conf 
manually in past.

Thanks,
Phil

[global]
        log file = /var/log/log.%m
        max log size = 50
        interfaces = 192.168.100.254/255.255.255.0
        dns proxy = no 
        printing = cups
        encrypt passwords = yes
        path = /var/spool/samba
        server string = FRANKS SERVER
        socket address = 192.168.100.254
        allow hosts = 192.168.100. 127.
        workgroup = FRANKS
        socket options = TCP_NODELAY
        netbios name = PPSERVER
        keepalive = 300
        load printers = yes
        security = user
        os level = 20

[printers]
        printable = yes
        guest only = yes
        printer = PPPR
        public = yes


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I'm  revamping my network infrastructure a bit to increae redundancy.

Presently DNS is served by a single FreeBSD, and I've got a dhcp server
running on an OpenBSD machine that also serves as my firewall.

Where I'm headed is to build a 2nd FreeBSD, and use it and the existing
FreebSD as redundant DNS/DHCP servers.

This leads to several questions.

1. Should both named.conf files declare themselves to be master, or should
one be slave?

I've installed the isc dhcp server from ports, and it works for simple
usage.

2. Can anyone show me an example of "failover" configuration for these?
Here is what I have come up with, but I'm not convinced it's corect:


# dhcpd.conf
#
# Sample configuration file for ISC dhcpd
#

# option definitions common to all supported networks...
option domain-name "fas.com";
option domain-name-servers 205.159.77.224;

default-lease-time 600;
max-lease-time 7200;

# If this DHCP server is the official DHCP server for the local
# network, the authoritative directive should be uncommented.
authoritative;

# ad-hoc DNS update scheme - set to "none" to disable dynamic DNS updates.
ddns-update-style interim;
ignore client-updates;
option domain-name "fas.com";
ddns-domainname "fas.com";

zone fas.com. {
    primary 127.0.0.1;
}

# Use this to send dhcp log messages to a different log file (you also
# have to hack syslog.conf to complete the redirection).
# log-facility local7;

# No service will be given on this subnet, but declaring it helps the 
# DHCP server to understand the network topology.

subnet 10.152.187.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
}

subnet 205.159.77.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
	option routers 205.159.77.234;
		range 205.159.77.50 205.159.77.75;
}

failover peer "pool" {
         primary;
         address black.fas.com;
         port 519;
         peer address polar.fas.com;
         peer port 520;
         max-response-delay 60;
         max-unacked-updates 10;
         mclt 3600;
         split 128;
         load balance max seconds 3;
       }

Mostly, I'm not certain if I need to reference the pool object somewhere
else in teh config file.

Als how can I make the dhcp server update the dns records dynamicly? I've
tried to do this, but it's not working. here's the named.conf file for
reference:


// $FreeBSD: src/etc/namedb/named.conf,v 1.6.2.5 2002/02/04 18:24:21 ume Exp $
//
// Refer to the named.conf(5) and named(8) man pages for details.  If
// you are ever going to setup a primary server, make sure you've
// understood the hairy details of how DNS is working.  Even with
// simple mistakes, you can break connectivity for affected parties,
// or cause huge amount of useless Internet traffic.

options {
	directory "/etc/namedb";

// In addition to the "forwarders" clause, you can force your name
// server to never initiate queries of its own, but always ask its
// forwarders only, by enabling the following line:
//
//      forward only;

// If you've got a DNS server around at your upstream provider, enter
// its IP address here, and enable the line below.  This will make you
// benefit from its cache, thus reduce overall DNS traffic in the Internet.
//	forwarders {
//		 63.246.111.11 ;
//		 63.246.111.12 ;
//		 63.246.111.22 ;
//	};
	/*
	 * If there is a firewall between you and nameservers you want
	 * to talk to, you might need to uncomment the query-source
	 * directive below.  Previous versions of BIND always asked
	 * questions using port 53, but BIND 8.1 uses an unprivileged
	 * port by default.
	 */
	 query-source address * port 53;

	/*
	 * If running in a sandbox, you may have to specify a different
	 * location for the dumpfile.
	 */
	// dump-file "s/named_dump.db";
};

// Note: the following will be supported in a future release.
/*
host { any; } {
	topology {
		127.0.0.0/8;
	};
};
*/
acl updaters {
           127.0.0.1;
   };


// Setting up secondaries is way easier and the rough picture for this
// is explained below.
//
// If you enable a local name server, don't forget to enter 127.0.0.1
// into your /etc/resolv.conf so this server will be queried first.
// Also, make sure to enable it in /etc/rc.conf.

zone "." {
	type hint;
	file "named.root";
};

zone "0.0.127.IN-ADDR.ARPA" {
	type master;
	file "localhost.rev";
};

zone "1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.IP6.INT" {
	type master;
	file "localhost-v6.rev";
};

// NB: Do not use the IP addresses below, they are faked, and only
// serve demonstration/documentation purposes!
//
// Example secondary config entries.  It can be convenient to become
// a secondary at least for the zone where your own domain is in.  Ask
// your network administrator for the IP address of the responsible
// primary.
//
// Never forget to include the reverse lookup (IN-ADDR.ARPA) zone!
// (This is the first bytes of the respective IP address, in reverse
// order, with ".IN-ADDR.ARPA" appended.)
//
// Before starting to setup a primary zone, better make sure you fully
// understand how DNS and BIND works, however.  There are sometimes
// unobvious pitfalls.  Setting up a secondary is comparably simpler.
//
// NB: Don't blindly enable the examples below. :-)  Use actual names
// and addresses instead.
//
// NOTE!!! FreeBSD can run bind in a sandbox (see named_flags in rc.conf).
// The directory containing the secondary zones must be write accessible 
// to bind.  The following sequence is suggested:
//
//	mkdir /etc/namedb/s
//	chown bind:bind /etc/namedb/s
//	chmod 750 /etc/namedb/s

zone "fas.com" {
	type master;
	file "s/fas.com";
	allow-update { updaters; };
};

zone "77.159.205.in-addr.arpa" {
	type master;
	file "s/77.159.205.in-addr.arpa";
	allow-update { updaters; };
};

Thanks for any help on this!

-- 
"They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve
neither liberty nor safety."
						-- Benjamin Franklin

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Hi,

Strange question, I have notice that in 5.1 there is no more fortune. Can
you tell me where I can get it. Thanks.

Payne

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r t g tan <rotan@seatle.demon.nl> writes:

> I'm trying to run gdm, but I can't login.
> 
> - I don't get any .xsession-errors, and am able
>   to login using xdm.
> 
> - Neither message saying incorrect user passwd 

What *does* happen when you try to log in?

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> Strange question, I have notice that in 5.1 there is no more fortune. Can
> you tell me where I can get it. Thanks.

Install the games/freebsd-games port.

	Cheers,

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I am running FreeBSD 4.3 running on an old slow laptop which is running
low on disk space.

I had Mozilla 5.0 0.8.1 and Netscape-communicator 4.76 installed.

Netscape was a package off of the FreeBSD 4.3 CDROM. I may have downloaded
Mozilla and installed it as a package, or built it as a port. I don't
remember.

Up until quite recently Mozilla worked very slowly, took up a lot of space
on the hard drive and 97%  of the CPU. I don't think Netscape
worked once I installed Mozilla, but trying to start Netscape resulted in
the following error messages:

$ /usr/local/bin/netscape
/usr/libexec/ld.so: warning: /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6: minor version -1
older than expected 0, using it anyway
ld.so failed: bad magic number in "/usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6"

I did pkg_delete on Netscape and reinstalled it with pkg_add from the
CDROM.

When I tried to start Netscape, I got the same bad magic number error.

Then when I tried to start Mozilla, the hard drive rattled for about five
minutes, Mozilla started up, got a PID, used up 95% of the CPU, but it
never (I've waited 15 minutes) opened a window. Perhaps my pkg_delete and
pkg_add of Netscape stepped on something in Mozilla.

I pkg_deleted mozilla, netscape-communicator, netscape-wrapper, and
netscpae-remote.

I went to the FreeBSD web site where they said that the FreeBSD version of
Mozilla is huge and slow, and recommended Netscape instead. The latest
version of Netscape for download is Linux version called:

netscape-i686-pc-linux-gnu-sea.tar.gz.

My laptop is set for running Linux executables:
#linux
linux driver already loaded

but I have no idea what to do with this file.

Do I untar and unzip it first and hope that any installation instructions
will work on FreeBSD? Leave it as a tar.gz, and install it with pkg_add,
or rpm?

The FreeBSD Handbook goes into great detail about how to brand elf
binaries, how to install specific software like Mathematica and Oracle,
but doesn't say how to install an ordinary Linux binary or how to install
Netscape.

I would be grateful for any suggestions.

Ken

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Do you have a guest account on the FreeBSD box?  I got that error when Windows 
was using an account that Samba didn't recognize.

Tim

On Thursday 01 January 2004 08:32 am, Phil Payne wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've got an HP printer on USB port on Freebsd 4-Stable box. Printer is
> on /dev/ulpt0. Installed cups and printing from BSD is fine.
>
> Had samba installed and working great for filesharing. Now introduced an
> all printers share to share this printer. Printer is browseable from
> windows machine.
>
> When I install this printer on a Win2K machine (and use local drivers) I
> get "Access Denied, Unable to Connect." Unlike some other people's
> experience I cannot print to the printer despite this message.
>
> I've found lots of references to others having this problem on BSD and
> LINUX on the web but no resolutions.
>
> Of course, BSD questions is where all the really clever people hang out
> so someone here is bound to know ;-)
>
> I couldn't find any resolution in the mailing list archive so does
> anyone know of an answer or is this a bug in operation between Winblows
> and Samba?
>
> Below is the global and printers sections of my smb.conf. This was
> generated by webmin but I do understand and have written smb.conf
> manually in past.
>
> Thanks,
> Phil
>
> [global]
>         log file = /var/log/log.%m
>         max log size = 50
>         interfaces = 192.168.100.254/255.255.255.0
>         dns proxy = no
>         printing = cups
>         encrypt passwords = yes
>         path = /var/spool/samba
>         server string = FRANKS SERVER
>         socket address = 192.168.100.254
>         allow hosts = 192.168.100. 127.
>         workgroup = FRANKS
>         socket options = TCP_NODELAY
>         netbios name = PPSERVER
>         keepalive = 300
>         load printers = yes
>         security = user
>         os level = 20
>
> [printers]
>         printable = yes
>         guest only = yes
>         printer = PPPR
>         public = yes
>
>
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Hi people!

Info. of my system:

I have a GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x video card.

My OS is FreeBSD 4.9-STABLE #20: Wed Dec 10 13:39:46 CET 2003

My XFree86 is,
This is a pre-release version of XFree86, and is not supported in any
way. Bugs may be reported to XFree86@XFree86.Org and patches submitted
to fixes@XFree86.Org. Before reporting bugs in pre-release versions,
please check the latest version in the XFree86 CVS repository
(http://www.XFree86.Org/cvs).

XFree86 Version 4.3.99.12
Release Date: 10 September 2003
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.6
Build Operating System: FreeBSD 4.9 i386 [ELF]
Current Operating System: FreeBSD localhost 4.9-STABLE FreeBSD
4.9-STABLE #20: Wed Dec i386 Build Date: 30 October 2003
Changelog Date: 10 September 2003
Before reporting problems, check http://www.XFree86.Org/
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present

My motherboard is a Aopen AX6BC with R2.59 BIOS version.

The problem:

When I enable 'nvidia' driver into XF86Config and nvidia.ko module and
after, I try any aplication's GLX extension, my system reboot
automatically!

Why it occur?

How can I solvent this problem?

Thanks.
_____
xxavi

  	 "Be liberal in what you accept, and
  conservative in what you send"  from RFC [Braden 1989a]

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I'm setting up a FreeBSD machine behind a firewall to recieve mail. Inside
teh firewall the machines are in a "fak" domain. The IP address that is on
the outside of the firewall is in a vaild DNS block.

Looking at the default freebsd.mc config file, I don't see anywhere to tell
sedmail to accept mail for the real domain. What am I missing?

Also how can I set up wildcarding, so that mail for that domain that does
not go to a valid user gets directed to a specifc user on that system?

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When I try to ssh to a [remote] machine, I get this:

$ ssh m20
Password:
Last login: Thu Jan  1 10:41:39 2004 from bast.example
Copyright (c) 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1990, 1991, 1993, 1994
        The Regents of the University of California.  All rights 
reserved.

-bash: /etc/profile: Device not configured
Connection to m20.example.org closed.
$

I'm not sure why this started.  Any ideas?

I think there's nothing that can be done until I get physical access 
to the box.
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I think that's the wrong verfsion of linux-netscape, you probably need:

communicator-v48-us.x86-unknown-linux2.2.tar.gz
or 
navigator-v48-us.x86-unknown-linux2.2.tar.gz

both can be installed via the ports at /usr/ports/www/netscape48-communicator

or 

/usr/ports/www/netscape48-navigator

(if you have ports collection installed)

Note that the ports are supposed to work with the latest releases of the OS  
(currently 4.9 and 5.1); you may need to upgrade your OS to 4.9 to get any 
ports to run.   FreeBSD 5.1 is still a development release; if you upgrade 
stick to the FreeBSD 4.9 path.

HTH

Tim Kellers
CPE/NJIT

On Thursday 01 January 2004 10:38 am, Ken Seggerman wrote:
> I am running FreeBSD 4.3 running on an old slow laptop which is running
> low on disk space.
>
> I had Mozilla 5.0 0.8.1 and Netscape-communicator 4.76 installed.
>
> Netscape was a package off of the FreeBSD 4.3 CDROM. I may have downloaded
> Mozilla and installed it as a package, or built it as a port. I don't
> remember.
>
> Up until quite recently Mozilla worked very slowly, took up a lot of space
> on the hard drive and 97%  of the CPU. I don't think Netscape
> worked once I installed Mozilla, but trying to start Netscape resulted in
> the following error messages:
>
> $ /usr/local/bin/netscape
> /usr/libexec/ld.so: warning: /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6: minor version -1
> older than expected 0, using it anyway
> ld.so failed: bad magic number in "/usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6"
>
> I did pkg_delete on Netscape and reinstalled it with pkg_add from the
> CDROM.
>
> When I tried to start Netscape, I got the same bad magic number error.
>
> Then when I tried to start Mozilla, the hard drive rattled for about five
> minutes, Mozilla started up, got a PID, used up 95% of the CPU, but it
> never (I've waited 15 minutes) opened a window. Perhaps my pkg_delete and
> pkg_add of Netscape stepped on something in Mozilla.
>
> I pkg_deleted mozilla, netscape-communicator, netscape-wrapper, and
> netscpae-remote.
>
> I went to the FreeBSD web site where they said that the FreeBSD version of
> Mozilla is huge and slow, and recommended Netscape instead. The latest
> version of Netscape for download is Linux version called:
>
> netscape-i686-pc-linux-gnu-sea.tar.gz.
>
> My laptop is set for running Linux executables:
> #linux
> linux driver already loaded
>
> but I have no idea what to do with this file.
>
> Do I untar and unzip it first and hope that any installation instructions
> will work on FreeBSD? Leave it as a tar.gz, and install it with pkg_add,
> or rpm?
>
> The FreeBSD Handbook goes into great detail about how to brand elf
> binaries, how to install specific software like Mathematica and Oracle,
> but doesn't say how to install an ordinary Linux binary or how to install
> Netscape.
>
> I would be grateful for any suggestions.
>
> Ken
>
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On Thu, 1 Jan 2004, Ken Seggerman wrote:
> I am running FreeBSD 4.3 [...]

That's really old, by the way.

> Do I untar and unzip it first and hope that any installation instructions
> will work on FreeBSD? Leave it as a tar.gz, and install it with pkg_add,
> or rpm?

Does

pkg_add netscape-i686-pc-linux-gnu-sea.tar.gz

work?


> The FreeBSD Handbook goes into great detail about how to brand elf
> binaries, how to install specific software like Mathematica and Oracle,
> but doesn't say how to install an ordinary Linux binary or how to install
> Netscape.


The instructions at

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/linuxemu-lbc-install.html

seem like a good first step.

--
David Fleck
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Hi Phil!

On Thu, 1 Jan 2004, Phil Payne wrote:
> I've got an HP printer on USB port on Freebsd 4-Stable box. Printer is
> on /dev/ulpt0. Installed cups and printing from BSD is fine.
>
> Had samba installed and working great for filesharing. Now introduced an
> all printers share to share this printer. Printer is browseable from
> windows machine.
>
> When I install this printer on a Win2K machine (and use local drivers) I
> get "Access Denied, Unable to Connect." Unlike some other people's
> experience I cannot print to the printer despite this message.
I have got the same problem, only the other way round:
Last week I managed to get my standalone print server with samba
and cups working, but I can't exactly tell how I did it, so you
can help me there  :-)
This is my smb.conf

		-----------------------------------------------
# Samba config file created using SWAT
# from 127.0.0.1 (127.0.0.1)
# Date: 2003/12/29 08:09:35

# Global parameters
[global]
	netbios name = SMALL
	security = SHARE
	passdb backend = guest
	ldap ssl = no
	hosts allow = 192.168.10.

[share]
	path = /share
	read only = No
	guest ok = Yes

[hpdj]
	path = /var/spool/samba
	guest ok = Yes
	printable = Yes
	use client driver = Yes

		----------------------------------------

Everyone on my home network can print to my FreeBSD machine.
[share] is a share I just put up for testing purposes.
[hpdj] is the printer, just the way I set it up with cups for
local printing - no raw printer or anything like that.
/var/spool/samba
is a directory I put in myself. Its permissions are set to
drwxrwxrwt nobody nobody .

Ideas for this setup com from J. Terpstra (one of samba's
devellopers)
http://us1.samba.org/samba/docs/man/StandAloneServer.html

I am using samba3 compiled against cups on -CURRENT .

As I said it works, but I am not sure if this is everything one
needs to do.

Hope it helps,

Uli.

	+---------------------------+
	|    Peter Ulrich Kruppa    |
        |         Wuppertal         |
        |          Germany          |
        +---------------------------+

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Matthew Seaman <m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk> writes:

> On Thu, Jan 01, 2004 at 09:29:44AM -0500, Chuck PUP Payne wrote:
> 
> > Strange question, I have notice that in 5.1 there is no more fortune. Can
> > you tell me where I can get it. Thanks.
> 
> Install the games/freebsd-games port.

No, fortune isn't in there.  It's still in the main tree.  Is it maybe
being installed to somewhere different?  [Doesn't look like it from a
quick Makefile check, but I may well have missed something...]

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Hello,

Do you know which configuration I should disable in the kernel to get rid of 
the kernel loaded driver ?

I want to load my own kernel for the following card.  I don't know how to 
disable isab in the kernel.

isab0@pci0:31:0:        class=0x060100 card=0x00000000 chip=0x248c8086
rev=0x02 hdr=0x00

Thank you very much.
Haidong

On Thu, 2004-01-01 at 03:09, Haidong Xia wrote:
>Hello, everyone,
>
>If the kernel already has a pci driver for a pci card, how could I load 
>another loadable driver for the same card?

You'll need to recompile your kernel without the driver, because you
can't have two drivers attached to the same hardware device at a time.
Then you may be able to load your driver.

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cb.z.ds@spamgourmet.com writes:

> After the upgrade I get now 2 messages from sendmail daily when cron runs.
> What's happened? Also, is there other/better solution?

According to periodic.conf(5), daily_status_security_output is only
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On Thu, 1 Jan 2004, Scott Mitchell wrote:

> As for RAID, we use Vinum, but only because I inherited a bunch of machines
> with hot-swap SCSI bays and no hardware RAID.  It works well, once you have
> it set up, and I've even managed to swap out failed drives without a reboot
> :-)  I'll definitely investigate the 3ware cards when I need to build a new
> RAID server, though.

But wouldn't a 3ware RAID be slower than an SCSI setup? Unless your
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simultaneous use or just many quick/small access (ie people using
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Hello,

I have an IBM X30 laptop without external CD or FDD - so I can't boot from
CD or FDD. I have also no network access to another computer. I can just
download the installation software form the FreeBSD web site. Is there a way
to install FreeBSD in such situation?

Randy Pratt advised me to see the Handbook section 2.13.4 "Installing from
an MS-DOS® Partition":

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-diff-media
.html

This sounds a perfect solution, but I still have one question - how do I
boot? In the Handbook I can find only description how to boot from external
media (FDD, CD). Is there a way to boot form the same HDD?

Thank you very much.

Best regards,

Iavor

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Lewis Thompson <purple@lewiz.net> writes:

> I have a funky keyboard with lots of buttons along the top (like Back,
> Forward, Stop, Refresh, etc.).  I use a number of these in fluxbox by
> defining them in my keys file.
> 
>   However -- can anybody suggest a way I can make the XF86Back key work
> in firebird?  Previously I have hacked the keyboard file so that it
> generates an ALT+Left (essentially back) but I wonder if there is an
> easier way.

That way seems pretty easy to me...

>   Maybe I should email the firebird developers and see if they would
> consider adding native support for this key?  I understand quite a few
> keyboards provide it now, through XFree86.  Is this a good idea?

You could try, but I don't think it will really help much.  Different
keyboards seem to generate different events for those keys (which is
to say, they're not standardized)...

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Lou Katz <lou@metron.com> writes:

> The make runs ok
> The make install chugs along until:
> 
> 	chmod 755 /usr/local/libexec/apache2/mod_authz_svn.so
> 	[activating module `authz_svn' in /usr/local/etc/apache2/httpd.conf]
> 	subversion/svnversion/svnversion . /repos/svn/trunk > /usr/local/include/subversion-1/svn-revision.txt
> 	/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/libapr-0.so.9: Undefined symbol "pthread_mutex_init"
> 	*** Error code 1
> 
> 	Stop in /work/local1/ports/devel/subversion/work/subversion-0.32.1.
> 	*** Error code 1
> 
> 	Stop in /work/local1/ports/devel/subversion.
> 
> 
> 
> I have checked, and there is libpthread.so.20 in /usr/local/lib/pth which I have linked
> up into /usr/local/lib, and it has the symbol "pthread_mutex_init". 

Sounds like you're working with an older version of FreeBSD.
[Please see Greg Lehey's "How to get best results from FreeBSD-questions" 
 http://www.lemis.com/questions.html ]

The ports aren't particularly intended to work with older versions,
and may depend on newer features (like some of the pthread modifications).

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Lowell Gilbert wrote:

>Matthew Seaman <m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk> writes:
>
>  
>
>>On Thu, Jan 01, 2004 at 09:29:44AM -0500, Chuck PUP Payne wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Strange question, I have notice that in 5.1 there is no more fortune. Can
>>>you tell me where I can get it. Thanks.
>>>      
>>>
>>Install the games/freebsd-games port.
>>    
>>
>
>No, fortune isn't in there.  It's still in the main tree.  Is it maybe
>being installed to somewhere different?  [Doesn't look like it from a
>quick Makefile check, but I may well have missed something...]
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Is installed on my (5.1 through 5.2-CURRENT) system, in:
/usr/games/fortune - ELF binary
/usr/share/games/fortune/ - directory for furtune data files

Is /usr/games in your PATH?  (Unsure if this is the normal location for 
it or not under FreeBSD, although IMHO it still belongs in a bin 
directory...)

Scott

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Hello again all, and Happy New Year!

I'm trying to configure a system for my buddy who has an nVidia 440 MX video 
card.  For some reason XFree86 will only do 8-bit color.  Anyone tell me how 
to get it to do 24-bit color?

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Scott W <wegster@mindcore.net> writes:

> Lowell Gilbert wrote:
> 
> >Matthew Seaman <m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk> writes:
> >
> >
> >>On Thu, Jan 01, 2004 at 09:29:44AM -0500, Chuck PUP Payne wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Strange question, I have notice that in 5.1 there is no more fortune. Can
> >>>you tell me where I can get it. Thanks.
> >>>
> >>Install the games/freebsd-games port.
> >>
> >
> >No, fortune isn't in there.  It's still in the main tree.  Is it maybe
> >being installed to somewhere different?  [Doesn't look like it from a
> >quick Makefile check, but I may well have missed something...]

> Is installed on my (5.1 through 5.2-CURRENT) system, in:
> /usr/games/fortune - ELF binary
> /usr/share/games/fortune/ - directory for furtune data files
> 
> Is /usr/games in your PATH?  (Unsure if this is the normal location
> for it or not under FreeBSD, although IMHO it still belongs in a bin
> directory...)

It's the normal location -- that's where it's been since it entered
FreeBSD in the first place, back around 1994.  /usr/games is the
traditional BSD place from well before that.

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In my wardrobe I have my noisy/fast server, to which I can connect via
the xdmcp protocol, either with my silent desktop machine or if im not
at home I can use ssh. It worked fluently for 6 months, but recently it
has become non-responsive and lagging. The network speed are 100Mbits
and I have killed all suspicius processes. I have even tried to restart
the server, but no luck. 

Over time the problem seems to get worse. But I cannot see any processes
which has went loose.

server> ps aux
USER      PID %CPU %MEM   VSZ  RSS  TT  STAT STARTED      TIME COMMAND
root       11 95.8  0.0     0   12  ??  RL   Sun03PM 5965:54.67  (idle)
root       10  0.0  0.0     0   12  ??  DL   Sun03PM   0:00.00  (ktrace)
root        1  0.0  0.1   740   84  ??  ILs  Sun03PM   0:00.13
/sbin/init --
root       12  0.0  0.0     0   12  ??  WL   Sun03PM   0:44.71  (swi1:
net)
root       13  0.0  0.0     0   12  ??  WL   Sun03PM   9:05.03  (swi7:
tty:sio clock)
root        2  0.0  0.0     0   12  ??  DL   Sun03PM   0:12.60 
(g_event)
root        3  0.0  0.0     0   12  ??  DL   Sun03PM   0:11.61  (g_up)
root        4  0.0  0.0     0   12  ??  DL   Sun03PM   0:21.98  (g_down)
root       15  0.0  0.0     0   12  ??  DL   Sun03PM   0:14.64  (random)
root        5  0.0  0.0     0   12  ??  IL   Sun03PM   0:00.00 
(acpi_task0)
root        6  0.0  0.0     0   12  ??  IL   Sun03PM   0:00.00 
(acpi_task1)
root        7  0.0  0.0     0   12  ??  IL   Sun03PM   0:00.00 
(acpi_task2)
root       23  0.0  0.0     0   12  ??  WL   Sun03PM   0:08.11  (irq14:
ata0)
root       24  0.0  0.0     0   12  ??  WL   Sun03PM   0:00.00  (irq15:
ata1)
root       25  0.0  0.0     0   12  ??  WL   Sun03PM   0:47.22  (irq10:
xl0)
root       26  0.0  0.0     0   12  ??  WL   Sun03PM   0:00.00  (irq6:
fdc0)
root       27  0.0  0.0     0   12  ??  WL   Sun03PM   0:00.00  (irq1:
atkbd0)
root        8  0.0  0.0     0   12  ??  DL   Sun03PM   0:10.30 
(pagedaemon)
root        9  0.0  0.0     0   12  ??  DL   Sun03PM   0:00.00 
(vmdaemon)
root       32  0.0  0.0     0   12  ??  DL   Sun03PM   0:08.33 
(pagezero)
root       33  0.0  0.0     0   12  ??  DL   Sun03PM   0:01.78 
(bufdaemon)
root       34  0.0  0.0     0   12  ??  DL   Sun03PM   1:47.70  (syncer)
root       35  0.0  0.0     0   12  ??  DL   Sun03PM   0:02.16  (vnlru)

root       36  0.0  0.0     0   12  ??  IL   Sun03PM   0:00.00  (nfsiod
0)
root       37  0.0  0.0     0   12  ??  IL   Sun03PM   0:00.00  (nfsiod
1)
root       38  0.0  0.0     0   12  ??  IL   Sun03PM   0:00.00  (nfsiod
2)
root       39  0.0  0.0     0   12  ??  IL   Sun03PM   0:00.00  (nfsiod
3)
root       72  0.0  0.0   872   12  ??  DLs  Sun03PM   0:00.00 vinum:
vinum daemon (vinum)
root      147  0.0  0.0   228   12  ??  Is   Sun03PM   0:00.00 adjkerntz
-i
root      255  0.0  0.4  1272  544  ??  Ss   Sun03PM   0:01.27
/usr/sbin/syslogd -s
root      390  0.0  0.4  3432  496  ??  Is   Sun03PM   0:00.52
/usr/sbin/sshd
root      412  0.0  0.5  1296  648  ??  Ss   Sun03PM   0:02.15
/usr/sbin/cron
root      458  0.0  0.4  1236  516  v0  Is+  Sun03PM   0:00.01
/usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv0
root      459  0.0  0.4  1236  516  v1  Is+  Sun03PM   0:00.01
/usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv1
root      460  0.0  0.4  1236  516  v2  Is+  Sun03PM   0:00.01
/usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv2
root      461  0.0  0.4  1236  516  v3  Is+  Sun03PM   0:00.01
/usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv3
root      462  0.0  0.4  1236  516  v4  Is+  Sun03PM   0:00.01
/usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv4
root      463  0.0  0.4  1236  516  v5  Is+  Sun03PM   0:00.01
/usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv5
root      464  0.0  0.4  1236  516  v6  Is+  Sun03PM   0:00.01
/usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv6
root      465  0.0  0.4  1236  516  v7  Is+  Sun03PM   0:00.01
/usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv7
root    16151  0.0  1.3  2988 1648  ??  I     3:52PM   0:00.03
/usr/X11R6/bin/xdm -nodaemon ttyv8
root    16194  0.0  1.8  3372 2268  ??  Is    4:07PM   0:00.08 xdm:
10.0.0.252:0 (xdm)
neoneye 16217  0.0  1.9  3628 2324  ??  Ss    4:12PM   0:00.78
/usr/X11R6/bin/blackbox
neoneye 16220  0.0  1.6  3348 1988  ??  I     4:12PM   0:00.48 bbkeys
root    16222  0.0  2.5  4660 3068  ??  Is    4:13PM   0:00.11 xterm -ls
neoneye 16223  0.0  0.9  1640 1072  p0  Is+   4:13PM   0:00.08 -tcsh
(tcsh)
neoneye 16312  0.0  0.3   920  364  p0  I     4:14PM   0:00.01 /bin/sh
./run-mozilla.sh ./mozilla-bin
neoneye 16323  0.2 30.7 48188 38208  p0  S     4:14PM   1:18.18
./mozilla-bin
root    16693  0.0  2.6  4732 3256  ??  Rs    6:51PM   0:00.19 xterm -ls
neoneye 16694  0.0  0.8  1552  956  p1  Ss    6:51PM   0:00.04 -tcsh
(tcsh)
root        0  0.0  0.0     0    4  ??  DLs  Sun03PM   0:00.51 
(swapper)
neoneye 16782  0.0  0.4   696  524  p1  R+    7:20PM   0:00.00 ps aux
server>

server> uname -a
FreeBSD server.neoneye.home 5.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE #0: Thu Jun 
5 02:55:42 GMT 2003    
root@wv1u.btc.adaptec.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386
server>

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Simon Strandgaard

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On Thu, Jan 01, 2004 at 11:09:28AM -0500, stan wrote:
> I'm setting up a FreeBSD machine behind a firewall to recieve mail. Inside
> teh firewall the machines are in a "fak" domain. The IP address that is on
> the outside of the firewall is in a vaild DNS block.
>=20
> Looking at the default freebsd.mc config file, I don't see anywhere to te=
ll
> sedmail to accept mail for the real domain. What am I missing?

All you have to do is add the list of addresses (ie. the RHS part,
after the @ symbol) to the file /etc/mail/local-host-names, one per
line.  This file should list all of the addresses that your server
does final delivery for.
=20
> Also how can I set up wildcarding, so that mail for that domain that does
> not go to a valid user gets directed to a specifc user on that system?

This is a job for virtusertable -- read about what you can do with
virtusertable funtionality in /usr/share/sendmail/cf/README.  The
default FreeBSD configuration already includes virtusertable support,
so all you have to do is create a file /etc/mail/virtusertable into
which you put a line like the following:

    @virtual-domain.com      virtual-domain@somewhere-else.net

Then run make in /etc/mail which will process that file into the db
hash file sendmail uses to do it's lookups.

	Cheers,

	Matthew

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On Thu, Jan 01, 2004 at 01:19:36PM -0500, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
> Lou Katz <lou@metron.com> writes:
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> > The make runs ok
> > The make install chugs along until:
> > 
> > 	chmod 755 /usr/local/libexec/apache2/mod_authz_svn.so
> > 	[activating module `authz_svn' in /usr/local/etc/apache2/httpd.conf]
> > 	subversion/svnversion/svnversion . /repos/svn/trunk > /usr/local/include/subversion-1/svn-revision.txt
> > 	/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/libapr-0.so.9: Undefined symbol "pthread_mutex_init"
> > 	*** Error code 1
> > 
> > 	Stop in /work/local1/ports/devel/subversion/work/subversion-0.32.1.
> > 	*** Error code 1
> > 
> > 	Stop in /work/local1/ports/devel/subversion.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I have checked, and there is libpthread.so.20 in /usr/local/lib/pth which I have linked
> > up into /usr/local/lib, and it has the symbol "pthread_mutex_init". 
> 
> Sounds like you're working with an older version of FreeBSD.
> [Please see Greg Lehey's "How to get best results from FreeBSD-questions" 
>  http://www.lemis.com/questions.html ]

4.7-RELEASE-p4


> 
> The ports aren't particularly intended to work with older versions,
> and may depend on newer features (like some of the pthread modifications).

If I leave MOD_DAV out, it works, but I think I need that. The funny thing
is, the library with pthread_mutex_init IS IN /usr/local/lib!

Thanks.

-- 
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I'm not sure if this is a bug, or intended behaviour.  If the behaviour is
intended, documentation improvements may be in order.

If I build a kernel with "options netgraph", in order to use mpd, netgraph.ko
is still loaded at boot (with an error) but mpd does not work.

If I build the kernel without netgraph, netgraph.ko loads, along with other
netgraph modules required for PPTP, and mpd works like a charm.

What I haven't tried yet, is compiling a kernel with all the options for all
the netgraph modules I'll need compiled in to see if that works.

This is FreeBSD 4.9.  Does anyone know if this is intended behaviour or a bug?
If it's intended behaviour, is it in the documentation and I just haven't seen
it?

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On Thu, Jan 01, 2004 at 07:45:49PM +0100, Simon Strandgaard wrote:
> In my wardrobe I have my noisy/fast server, to which I can connect via
> the xdmcp protocol, either with my silent desktop machine or if im not
> at home I can use ssh. It worked fluently for 6 months, but recently it
> has become non-responsive and lagging. The network speed are 100Mbits
> and I have killed all suspicius processes. I have even tried to restart
> the server, but no luck.=20

Two things to check:

Does 'netstat -i' show any errors, either on your server or on your desktop?

   If so, then there's probably a fault somewhere in your networking
   setup.  It could be a simple as a network cable not plugged in
   properly or as bad as your switch/hub slowly giving up the ghost,
   or one of the NICs in one of the machines spiralling into oblivion.
   Best way to isolate the problem is to swap out the various parts
   with known good components.  Nb. with this sort of search, always
   start with the cheapest components: don't assume that eg. network
   cables are so simple nothing can go wrong with them...

Do both machines agree on the duplex settings for your network?

   Certain combinations of NIC and network switches seem to have
   trouble negotiating the duplex settings for the network.  This
   leads to a large number of dropped packets and the sort of symptoms
   you've described.  Comparing the ifconfig(8) output on both
   machines and the blinken lights on the switch will soon tell you if
   this is the problem.  Solve it by hardwiring the 'media' and
   'mediaopts' settings in the ifconfig lines in /etc/rc.conf

	Cheers,

	Matthew

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On Thu, Jan 01, 2004 at 02:38:09PM -0500, Bill Moran wrote:

> If I build a kernel with "options netgraph", in order to use mpd,=20
> netgraph.ko
> is still loaded at boot (with an error) but mpd does not work.

You can't simultaneously load a .ko and have the same code compiled
into the kernel.
=20
> If I build the kernel without netgraph, netgraph.ko loads, along with oth=
er
> netgraph modules required for PPTP, and mpd works like a charm.
>=20
> What I haven't tried yet, is compiling a kernel with all the options for =
all
> the netgraph modules I'll need compiled in to see if that works.

It's generally best either to kldload all of the netgraph modules you
require for this purpose or to compile them all into the kernel.  One
way, or the other, but not a mixture of both.

	Cheers,

	Matthew

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Matthew Seaman wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 01, 2004 at 02:38:09PM -0500, Bill Moran wrote:
> 
>>If I build a kernel with "options netgraph", in order to use mpd, 
>>netgraph.ko
>>is still loaded at boot (with an error) but mpd does not work.
> 
> You can't simultaneously load a .ko and have the same code compiled
> into the kernel.

_I_ know that.  Tell it to whatever part of the system is trying to
load the kld.

I'm not saying that being unable to load a kld for a service that's
already compiled in is an error.  I'm saying the fact that mpd tries
to load the kld when it's already compiled in is the error.

>>If I build the kernel without netgraph, netgraph.ko loads, along with other
>>netgraph modules required for PPTP, and mpd works like a charm.
>>
>>What I haven't tried yet, is compiling a kernel with all the options for all
>>the netgraph modules I'll need compiled in to see if that works.
> 
> It's generally best either to kldload all of the netgraph modules you
> require for this purpose or to compile them all into the kernel.  One
> way, or the other, but not a mixture of both.

I would go beyond "generally best" and straight into "it doesn't work".

My question is, "Is this fact documented somewhere, and I didn't see it?"
Because, if it's not, I'm going to put together a doc patch and file a PR.

-- 
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Searching the archives I found a previous thread 
(http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?3FA6C96D.3090502) talking about my 
problem.
Any progress on playing Midi files under 5.x ?     My card uses the 
snd_DS1 module.

Kmidi is complaining about a missing /dev/sequencer (which I don't have 
in my /dev).

Thank you
Dany




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      Versino 4.9....whenever i use the command "shutdown"or "halt"to
shutdown the power,system display"type anykey to reboot"so computer
reboot~and i have to boot windows(i installed FREEBSD and WINDOWS2000).
       Someone told me to configue the kernel.Add "device  acpica"to the
kernel and make it ~I did so,nothing changed,porblem is still there.HELP~!

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I have installed 5.2RC2 on i386 and have all of it working well (including 
ACPI with HTT)

Since I am much more familiar with the 4.x flavor, is there any web area 
that explains the following:

1. it seems alot of startup was moved to /etc/rc.d...thats cool, but I dont 
see the connection as to how things in there are being invoked?

2. How can I get rid of the boot menu and boot 5.2 like 4.x ?

3. I built a custom kernel and chose to incorporate 'hints' within the 
kernel and that seems to work, but I noticed alot of modules still get 
built for devices I didnt include or list (like scsi and sound)...how can I 
effectively remove devices I dont have ?

..other than this (so far)..I am very pleased at the performance!

thanks.





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On Thursday 01 January 2004 21:59, J.D. Bronson wrote:
> I have installed 5.2RC2 on i386 and have all of it working well (including
> ACPI with HTT)
>
> Since I am much more familiar with the 4.x flavor, is there any web area
> that explains the following:
>
> 1. it seems alot of startup was moved to /etc/rc.d...thats cool, but I do=
nt
> see the connection as to how things in there are being invoked?

I just can tell you that RCng was merged from NetBSD some months ago.

>
> 2. How can I get rid of the boot menu and boot 5.2 like 4.x ?

You can edit /boot/loader.rc and comment the line "include /boot/beastie.4t=
h"=20
and "beastie-start"

>
> 3. I built a custom kernel and chose to incorporate 'hints' within the
> kernel and that seems to work, but I noticed alot of modules still get
> built for devices I didnt include or list (like scsi and sound)...how can=
 I
> effectively remove devices I dont have ?

That's because modules are built together with the kernel not with the worl=
d.=20
You can change this by adding the following to /etc/make.conf
"NO_MODULES=3D    true"
or or and/or
"MODULES_WITH_WORLD=3Dtrue"

>
> ..other than this (so far)..I am very pleased at the performance!

Well then you seem to have very fast hardware. Regarding disk transfer and=
=20
network speed there is plenty to do (see Greg Leheys latest measurements)

=2DHarry

>
> thanks.

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At 03:15 PM 1/1/2004, Harald Schmalzbauer wrote:
>On Thursday 01 January 2004 21:59, J.D. Bronson wrote:
> > I have installed 5.2RC2 on i386 and have all of it working well (including
> > ACPI with HTT)
> >
> > Since I am much more familiar with the 4.x flavor, is there any web area
> > that explains the following:
> >
> > 1. it seems alot of startup was moved to /etc/rc.d...thats cool, but I dont
> > see the connection as to how things in there are being invoked?
>
>I just can tell you that RCng was merged from NetBSD some months ago.
>
> >
> > 2. How can I get rid of the boot menu and boot 5.2 like 4.x ?
>
>You can edit /boot/loader.rc and comment the line "include /boot/beastie.4th"
>and "beastie-start"
>
> >
> > 3. I built a custom kernel and chose to incorporate 'hints' within the
> > kernel and that seems to work, but I noticed alot of modules still get
> > built for devices I didnt include or list (like scsi and sound)...how can I
> > effectively remove devices I dont have ?
>
>That's because modules are built together with the kernel not with the world.
>You can change this by adding the following to /etc/make.conf
>"NO_MODULES=    true"
>or or and/or
>"MODULES_WITH_WORLD=true"
>
> >
> > ..other than this (so far)..I am very pleased at the performance!
>
>Well then you seem to have very fast hardware. Regarding disk transfer and
>network speed there is plenty to do (see Greg Leheys latest measurements)
>
>-Harry

umm. This is not good news? - I have dual machines that have Pentium4 
3.06ghz and run IDE 7200 rpm drives...I have not seen any loss of 
performance via network -or- IDE transfers. Things seem to really rock....

Hmmmm.






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On Thu, Jan 01, 2004 at 03:02:41PM -0500, Bill Moran wrote:
> Matthew Seaman wrote:

> >It's generally best either to kldload all of the netgraph modules you
> >require for this purpose or to compile them all into the kernel.  One
> >way, or the other, but not a mixture of both.
=20
> I would go beyond "generally best" and straight into "it doesn't work".
=20
> My question is, "Is this fact documented somewhere, and I didn't see it?"
> Because, if it's not, I'm going to put together a doc patch and file a PR.

Hmmm... I've seen people mention similar effects where various other
modules insisting on kldload'ing their dependencies even if they're
already in the kernel.  They pop up on various mailing lists over
time.  You may be right in saying "it doesn't work" -- but I have no
idea whether that is correct in all cases.  I get the feeling that
most people will go to great pains to prevent their kernel code doing
annoying things like that.

Of course, if you compile, say, netgraph into your kernel, your
buildkernel run shouldn't produce a separate netgraph.ko module.  If
there's one in /modules or wherever the equivalent is for 5.x then
it's a hangover from a previous kernel.  Chances are that if you get
rid of the old netgraph.ko then things may well work as you expect.

	Cheers,

	Matthew

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Hey all,

How can I change the write permissions on DOS partitions?  I have tried a 
chmod 0777 /dev/<device> and chmod 0777 /<mount-point> and neither have any 
effect.  What am I doing wrong?  I'm trying to do this for a USB storage 
device and a DOS partition I use for sharing some files between FreeBSD and 
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On Thursday 01 January 2004 12:23 pm, Eric F Crist wrote:
> Hello again all, and Happy New Year!
>
> I'm trying to configure a system for my buddy who has an nVidia 440 MX
> video card.  For some reason XFree86 will only do 8-bit color.  Anyone tell
> me how to get it to do 24-bit color?
>
> TIA

I did get this fixed from the XFree86 lists.  There is a DefaultDepth line 
that can be added in the XF86Config file.  Hope this helps others that have 
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you can define permissions on mount time with some clever option which I
just cant remember right now.
Use man mount luke.

greets markus kovero
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> Hey all,
>
> How can I change the write permissions on DOS partitions?  I have tried a
> chmod 0777 /dev/<device> and chmod 0777 /<mount-point> and neither have
any
> effect.  What am I doing wrong?  I'm trying to do this for a USB storage
> device and a DOS partition I use for sharing some files between FreeBSD
and
> XP.
>
> TIA
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On Thu, Jan 01, 2004 at 07:29:56PM +0000, Matthew Seaman wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 01, 2004 at 11:09:28AM -0500, stan wrote:
> > I'm setting up a FreeBSD machine behind a firewall to recieve mail. Inside
> > teh firewall the machines are in a "fak" domain. The IP address that is on
> > the outside of the firewall is in a vaild DNS block.
> > 
> > Looking at the default freebsd.mc config file, I don't see anywhere to tell
> > sedmail to accept mail for the real domain. What am I missing?
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> All you have to do is add the list of addresses (ie. the RHS part,
> after the @ symbol) to the file /etc/mail/local-host-names, one per
> line.  This file should list all of the addresses that your server
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>  
> > Also how can I set up wildcarding, so that mail for that domain that does
> > not go to a valid user gets directed to a specifc user on that system?
> 
Thansk taht's most helpful.


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I have set up the isc-dhcp port on 2 machines. and it is serving addresses,
but I notice that whichever machine gives the lease is the only one that
records the lease in it's leases file.

This seems like a problem.

How can I configure this package to avoid this problem?

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On Thu, Jan 01, 2004 at 05:06:23PM -0500, stan wrote:
> I have set up the isc-dhcp port on 2 machines. and it is serving addresses,
> but I notice that whichever machine gives the lease is the only one that
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> 
> This seems like a problem.

Yes, I imagine it is ;-)

> How can I configure this package to avoid this problem?

You shouldn't have more than one DHCP server per broadcast domain
(unless you implement some sort of database sharing logic between them).
Because clients keep their leases for a period of time even if the DHCP
server dies, this isn't a service that typically calls for redundancy.

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On Thu, Jan 01, 2004 at 03:37:51PM -0600, Eric F Crist wrote:
> Hey all,
> 
> How can I change the write permissions on DOS partitions?  I have tried a 
> chmod 0777 /dev/<device> and chmod 0777 /<mount-point> and neither have any 
> effect.  What am I doing wrong?  I'm trying to do this for a USB storage 

I think you should change permissions on the mount point before
mounting the device, no need to change it on /dev/device.

hth
Gautam

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On Thu, Jan 01, 2004 at 01:09:23PM +0000, Francisco Reyes wrote:
> On Thu, 1 Jan 2004, Scott Mitchell wrote:
> 
> > As for RAID, we use Vinum, but only because I inherited a bunch of machines
> > with hot-swap SCSI bays and no hardware RAID.  It works well, once you have
> > it set up, and I've even managed to swap out failed drives without a reboot
> > :-)  I'll definitely investigate the 3ware cards when I need to build a new
> > RAID server, though.
> 
> But wouldn't a 3ware RAID be slower than an SCSI setup? Unless your
> current setup is using old SCSI disks. Also how is the load? Lots of
> simultaneous use or just many quick/small access (ie people using
> documents/spreadsheets).

There no particular reason for an ATA RAID to be slower than SCSI, assuming
similar disks in each.  10krpm 'server class' ATA disks are available these
days, although I don't know that anyone has done a 15krpm one yet.

In any case, performance is only one reason to use RAID.  My arrays are
RAID-5's, serving developer home directories over NFS, and a CVS server
(ie. lots of small file accesses).  The main requirements were to have
some fault tolerance and to get the most out the of disks I could buy with
the available budget - hence the RAID-5.  Read performance is no worse than
with a single disk, and degrades more gracefully with multiple simultaneous
access.  Write performance is pretty awful, but that's the nature of
RAID-5.  No doubt if I had an unlimited budget I would do things
differently, but those days are long gone :-(

I'd also expect/hope that a hardware solution (ATA or SCSI) would be easier
to manage.  Vinum is great, but swapping out a dead drive is still a scary,
multi-step procedure, that I do infrequently enough that it always requires
half an hour with the manual and my notes from last time to make sure I get
it right.  With our Windows servers (Compaq Proliants with hardware RAID),
you just yank the old drive, plug in the new one, and it's done.  I'd love
to be able to do that with the FreeBSD servers as well.

	Scott

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Scott Mitchell wrote:

>On Thu, Jan 01, 2004 at 01:09:23PM +0000, Francisco Reyes wrote:
>  
>
>>On Thu, 1 Jan 2004, Scott Mitchell wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>As for RAID, we use Vinum, but only because I inherited a bunch of machines
>>>with hot-swap SCSI bays and no hardware RAID.  It works well, once you have
>>>it set up, and I've even managed to swap out failed drives without a reboot
>>>:-)  I'll definitely investigate the 3ware cards when I need to build a new
>>>RAID server, though.
>>>      
>>>
>>But wouldn't a 3ware RAID be slower than an SCSI setup? Unless your
>>current setup is using old SCSI disks. Also how is the load? Lots of
>>simultaneous use or just many quick/small access (ie people using
>>documents/spreadsheets).
>>    
>>
>
>There no particular reason for an ATA RAID to be slower than SCSI, assuming
>similar disks in each.  10krpm 'server class' ATA disks are available these
>days, although I don't know that anyone has done a 15krpm one yet.
>

Does SATA have tagged queing?   (I don't know offhand if it does...?)

I can guarantee modern SCSI throughput is superior to any of the SATA 
drives I've seen to date.  Several of the 'hardware sites' (I think 
Tomshardware did a writeup on this or anadtech among others) agree with 
this statement as well.  ATA specs tend to exaggerate their capabilities 
even worse than SCSI specs do- burst speeds are all fine and dandy, but 
not realistic at all in the real world.  Meaning basically in short I 
wouldn't choose SATA over SCSI for a production server of any kind where 
speed was an issue.  ATA has gotten better by far than it was 
speed-wise, and I'd be OK with it on a personal workstation for any 
purpose, but it's still playing catchup.

>In any case, performance is only one reason to use RAID.  My arrays are
>RAID-5's, serving developer home directories over NFS, and a CVS server
>(ie. lots of small file accesses).  The main requirements were to have
>some fault tolerance and to get the most out the of disks I could buy with
>the available budget - hence the RAID-5.  Read performance is no worse than
>with a single disk, and degrades more gracefully with multiple simultaneous
>access.  Write performance is pretty awful, but that's the nature of
>RAID-5.  No doubt if I had an unlimited budget I would do things
>differently, but those days are long gone :-(
>
Write performance is awful locally, or over NFS?  NFS isn't exactly a 
speed demon.
No comment on the unlimited budget as everyone at work just got 
(another) 'mandatory pay reduction'...but I do rememeber and miss those, 
$^#&*(
;-)

Scott

>I'd also expect/hope that a hardware solution (ATA or SCSI) would be easier
>to manage.  Vinum is great, but swapping out a dead drive is still a scary,
>multi-step procedure, that I do infrequently enough that it always requires
>half an hour with the manual and my notes from last time to make sure I get
>it right.  With our Windows servers (Compaq Proliants with hardware RAID),
>you just yank the old drive, plug in the new one, and it's done.  I'd love
>to be able to do that with the FreeBSD servers as well.
>

>	Scott
>
>  
>


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On Friday,  2 January 2004 at  4:25:49 +0800, dc wrote:
>       Versino 4.9....whenever i use the command "shutdown"or "halt"to
> shutdown the power,system display"type anykey to reboot"so computer
> reboot~and i have to boot windows(i installed FREEBSD and
> WINDOWS2000).

Why?

>        Someone told me to configue the kernel.Add "device acpica"to
> the kernel and make it ~I did so,nothing changed,porblem is still
> there.HELP~!

It's almost impossible to guess what your problem is.  Obviously
shutdown works.  Did you install the boot selector?  Please:

1.  Shut down the machine (with shutdown, not halt).
2.  When you see "Press any key to reboot", turn the power off.
3.  Turn the power on.
4.  Describe *exactly* what happens.

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On Thu, Jan 01, 2004 at 05:59:18PM -0500, Scott W wrote:
> Scott Mitchell wrote:
> >
> >There no particular reason for an ATA RAID to be slower than SCSI, assuming
> >similar disks in each.  10krpm 'server class' ATA disks are available these
> >days, although I don't know that anyone has done a 15krpm one yet.
> >
> 
> Does SATA have tagged queing?   (I don't know offhand if it does...?)

No idea.  I haven't used any SATA stuff yet.  Would be surprised if it
didn't though.

> I can guarantee modern SCSI throughput is superior to any of the SATA 
> drives I've seen to date.  Several of the 'hardware sites' (I think 
> Tomshardware did a writeup on this or anadtech among others) agree with 
> this statement as well.  ATA specs tend to exaggerate their capabilities 
> even worse than SCSI specs do- burst speeds are all fine and dandy, but 
> not realistic at all in the real world.  Meaning basically in short I 
> wouldn't choose SATA over SCSI for a production server of any kind where 
> speed was an issue.  ATA has gotten better by far than it was 
> speed-wise, and I'd be OK with it on a personal workstation for any 
> purpose, but it's still playing catchup.

Well, I won't disagree with any of that - ATA drives have been aimed at the
consumer market, which wants big & cheap in preference to performance &
reliability.  On the other hand, you've got drives like the WD 'Raptor'
that seem to be mechanically what you expect in a server-class SCSI drive,
but with a SATA interface, so the gap isn't that big anymore.  I stand by
my statement above though - there's no reason an ATA RAID implementation
_has_ to be slower than SCSI, provided that the disks are up to it.  In
practice though, suitable disks are only just now starting to appear.

> Write performance is awful locally, or over NFS?  NFS isn't exactly a 
> speed demon.

Locally - with RAID-5 you have the extra overhead of calculating the parity
for the block you just wrote, then writing that out to an other drive.
According to the Vinum docs, write performance is ~25% of read, although
how much of that is Vinum and how much is just the nature of RAID-5 I'm not
sure.

> No comment on the unlimited budget as everyone at work just got 
> (another) 'mandatory pay reduction'...but I do rememeber and miss those, 
> $^#&*(
> ;-)

:-)

	Scott

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to turn the power off automatically, you should use :  shutdown -p now   
instead of the -h which gives you this message.

Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:

>On Friday,  2 January 2004 at  4:25:49 +0800, dc wrote:
>  
>
>>      Versino 4.9....whenever i use the command "shutdown"or "halt"to
>>shutdown the power,system display"type anykey to reboot"so computer
>>reboot~and i have to boot windows(i installed FREEBSD and
>>WINDOWS2000).
>>    
>>
>
>Why?
>
>  
>
>>       Someone told me to configue the kernel.Add "device acpica"to
>>the kernel and make it ~I did so,nothing changed,porblem is still
>>there.HELP~!
>>    
>>
>
>It's almost impossible to guess what your problem is.  Obviously
>shutdown works.  Did you install the boot selector?  Please:
>
>1.  Shut down the machine (with shutdown, not halt).
>2.  When you see "Press any key to reboot", turn the power off.
>3.  Turn the power on.
>4.  Describe *exactly* what happens.
>
>Greg
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How big is necessary for a /usr partition?  Mine keeps filling up and I've 
deleted /usr/obj and /usr/ports/distfiles regularly.

Here's my df -h readout:

$ df -h
Filesystem    Size   Used  Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/ad0s3a  1008M    92M   835M    10%    /
/dev/ad0s2   1020M    19M  1001M     2%    /dos
/dev/ad0s3g   4.8G    69M   4.3G     2%    /home
/dev/ad0s3e   3.9G   3.9G -260.5M   107%    /usr
/dev/ad0s3f  1008M    27M   900M     3%    /var
/dev/ad0s1     24G    22G   2.9G    88%    /nt
procfs        4.0K   4.0K     0B   100%    /proc
/dev/da0s1     61M    61M   632K    99%    /umass
$

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On Thursday 01 January 2004 06:00 pm, Eric F Crist wrote:
> How big is necessary for a /usr partition?  Mine keeps filling up and I've
> deleted /usr/obj and /usr/ports/distfiles regularly.
>
> Here's my df -h readout:
>
> $ df -h
> Filesystem    Size   Used  Avail Capacity  Mounted on
> /dev/ad0s3a  1008M    92M   835M    10%    /
> /dev/ad0s2   1020M    19M  1001M     2%    /dos
> /dev/ad0s3g   4.8G    69M   4.3G     2%    /home
> /dev/ad0s3e   3.9G   3.9G -260.5M   107%    /usr
> /dev/ad0s3f  1008M    27M   900M     3%    /var
> /dev/ad0s1     24G    22G   2.9G    88%    /nt
> procfs        4.0K   4.0K     0B   100%    /proc
> /dev/da0s1     61M    61M   632K    99%    /umass


If you have source installed, that takes up a bit. If you don't see yourself 
doing a makeworld and building kernel - a binary install would have done 
nicely.


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Chris

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On Thu, Jan 01, 2004 at 06:00:23PM -0600, Eric F Crist wrote:
> How big is necessary for a /usr partition?  Mine keeps filling up and I've 
> deleted /usr/obj and /usr/ports/distfiles regularly.
> 
> Here's my df -h readout:
> 
> $ df -h
> Filesystem    Size   Used  Avail Capacity  Mounted on
> /dev/ad0s3a  1008M    92M   835M    10%    /
> /dev/ad0s2   1020M    19M  1001M     2%    /dos
> /dev/ad0s3g   4.8G    69M   4.3G     2%    /home
> /dev/ad0s3e   3.9G   3.9G -260.5M   107%    /usr
> /dev/ad0s3f  1008M    27M   900M     3%    /var
> /dev/ad0s1     24G    22G   2.9G    88%    /nt
> procfs        4.0K   4.0K     0B   100%    /proc
> /dev/da0s1     61M    61M   632K    99%    /umass

I don't think you need such big / and /var partitions...
And you could merge /home and /usr and make home dirs on /usr/home

Gautam

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On Thursday 01 January 2004 06:04 pm, Chris wrote:
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> yourself doing a makeworld and building kernel - a binary install would
> have done nicely.

I do have source installed, and I do a bi-weekly source update automatically 
when my laptop is home.  I like having the sources there.  Any other 
suggestions on which directories I can squash?

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On Thursday 01 January 2004 06:15 pm, Eric F Crist wrote:
> On Thursday 01 January 2004 06:04 pm, Chris wrote:
> > If you have source installed, that takes up a bit. If you don't see
> > yourself doing a makeworld and building kernel - a binary install would
> > have done nicely.
>
> I do have source installed, and I do a bi-weekly source update
> automatically when my laptop is home.  I like having the sources there. 
> Any other suggestions on which directories I can squash?

Never mind.  I seem to have forgotten you can do a make clean from the 
/usr/ports and you're fine!

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I'm still trying to get ISC dhcp to work in a "redundnat" fashion where I
have 2 machines, and they share an address pool. 

Here's where I am on this.

Well I thoguht I had it working for a minute. 

The executbale is _really_ picky about the syntax od the config file, and I
found some help at:

http://www.lithodyne.net/docs/dhcp/dhcp-4.html#ss4.3

So, I wound up with this on the master machine:


# dhcpd.conf
#
# Sample configuration file for ISC dhcpd
#

# option definitions common to all supported networks...
option domain-name "fas.com";
option domain-name-servers 205.159.77.224, 205.159.77.225;

default-lease-time 600;
max-lease-time 7200;

# If this DHCP server is the official DHCP server for the local
# network, the authoritative directive should be uncommented.
authoritative;

# ad-hoc DNS update scheme - set to "none" to disable dynamic DNS updates.
ddns-update-style interim;
ignore client-updates;
option domain-name "fas.com";
ddns-domainname "fas.com";

zone fas.com. {
    primary 127.0.0.1;
}

# Use this to send dhcp log messages to a different log file (you also
# have to hack syslog.conf to complete the redirection).
# log-facility local7;

# No service will be given on this subnet, but declaring it helps the 
# DHCP server to understand the network topology.

subnet 10.152.187.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
}


failover peer "pool" {
         primary;
         address black.fas.com;
         port 519;
         peer address cindy.fas.com;
         peer port 520;
	 split 128;
         max-response-delay 60;
         max-unacked-updates 10;
         mclt 3600;
         load balance max seconds 3;
       }

subnet 205.159.77.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
pool {
	failover peer "pool";
	range 205.159.77.50 205.159.77.75;
	deny dynamic bootp clients;
	}
	option routers 205.159.77.234;
}

And this on the slave:


# dhcpd.conf
#
# Sample configuration file for ISC dhcpd
#

# option definitions common to all supported networks...
option domain-name "fas.com";
option domain-name-servers 205.159.77.224, 205.159.77.225;

default-lease-time 600;
max-lease-time 7200;

# If this DHCP server is the official DHCP server for the local
# network, the authoritative directive should be uncommented.
authoritative;

# ad-hoc DNS update scheme - set to "none" to disable dynamic DNS updates.
ddns-update-style interim;
ignore client-updates;
option domain-name "fas.com";
ddns-domainname "fas.com";

zone fas.com. {
    primary 127.0.0.1;
}

# Use this to send dhcp log messages to a different log file (you also
# have to hack syslog.conf to complete the redirection).
# log-facility local7;

# No service will be given on this subnet, but declaring it helps the 
# DHCP server to understand the network topology.

subnet 10.152.187.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
}


failover peer "pool" {
         secondary;
         address cindy.fas.com;
         port 519;
         peer address black.fas.com;
         peer port 520;
         max-response-delay 60;
         max-unacked-updates 10;
         mclt 3600;
         load balance max seconds 3;
       }

subnet 205.159.77.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
pool {
	failover peer "pool";
	range 205.159.77.50 205.159.77.75;
	deny dynamic bootp clients;
	}
	option routers 205.159.77.234;
}

And both sides started up OK. But when I booted one of the OpenBSD machines
as a client it failed to get an address.

Looking at tcpdump it _si_ a bootp packet that it sends, so I'm wondering
if this line is the problem?


	deny dynamic bootp clients;

Any ideas?

-- 
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Is there just a binary install of OpenOffice?

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--- Chris <racerx@makeworld.com> wrote:
> Is there just a binary install of OpenOffice?
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Yes there is a binary install for OpenOffice.

http://projects.imp.ch/openoffice/

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I am running FreeBSD 5.1 with the CUPS print server. I am having some problems 
with my printer and I was wondering if anyone had seen this before. 

I am using an old HP DeskJet 1200C/PS.  I have it setup with CUPS and I can 
print without any problems. But, when I try to print anything with graphics 
in it the job takes a long time to complete. For example, when printing a 
1.2mb jpeg file it takes almost two hours to print. Text prints without a 
problem and small graphics don't slow it down too much. Do I need to change 
some settings or is this printer just really slow?

Kurt

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stan <stanb@panix.com> writes:

> I have set up the isc-dhcp port on 2 machines. and it is serving addresses,
> but I notice that whichever machine gives the lease is the only one that
> records the lease in it's leases file.

Right.  If you want them to know about each other, you need to
configure that.  See the descriptions of "failover" in the
dhcpd.conf(5) manual.

> This seems like a problem.

Not unless both servers are serving addresses out of the same pool.
Obviously, that *would* be a problem.  

If one hands out (for example) 10.0.0.3 through 10.0.0.127 and the
other hands out 10.0.0.128 through 10.0.0.254, then there's no problem
at all.  You can have the second one respond more slowly by using the
min-secs statement in its configuration.

> How can I configure this package to avoid this problem?

If you want the failover support, then you can set that up (I've never
done it, but it looks reasonably simple when I read the manual).  

It's probably not worth setting up two servers, though.  If you have a
reasonable gap between the renew time (when the clients start looking
for a new lease) and the end of the lease (when the clients have to
stop using their old lease), then you have a fair amount of breathing
time to get the server fixed.

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Pierrick Brossin <pbrossin@swissgeeks.com> writes:

> I have a DHCP server at home (isc-dhcpd) and I've been wondering for a
> long time why it is giving the last IP addresses of the specified
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> Like I tell him a range from 10.0.0.50 to 10.0.0.100 and it's giving 100
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> 
> Should be someone who knows :)

It's an artifact of the way the data structures get initialized at the
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stan <stanb@panix.com> writes:

> Looking at tcpdump it _si_ a bootp packet that it sends, so I'm wondering
> if this line is the problem?
> 
> 
> 	deny dynamic bootp clients;
> 
> Any ideas?

How do you know that the packet is BOOTP?  BOOTP and DHCP use the same
protocol type, so tcpdump(1) (for example) won't be able to
distinguish between them.

Did the server respond at all?

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On Thu, Jan 01, 2004 at 08:26:00PM -0500, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
> stan <stanb@panix.com> writes:
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> > Looking at tcpdump it _si_ a bootp packet that it sends, so I'm wondering
> > if this line is the problem?
> > 
> > 
> > 	deny dynamic bootp clients;
> > 
> > Any ideas?
> 
> How do you know that the packet is BOOTP?  BOOTP and DHCP use the same
> protocol type, so tcpdump(1) (for example) won't be able to
> distinguish between them.

OK, I just was going by what the tcpdump said.

So, the line should just prevent bootp clients from getting a lease, right?
> 
> Did the server respond at all?

The client nver got a lease, at all. I don't believe I saw a reply in the
tcpdump.

Can I bump up the debuging level on the server?

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On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 18:51:49 -0500, Dany <dany_list@natzo.com> wrote:

> Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
>
>> On Friday,  2 January 2004 at  4:25:49 +0800, dc wrote:
>>
>>>      Versino 4.9....whenever i use the command "shutdown"or "halt"to
>>> shutdown the power,system display"type anykey to reboot"so computer
>>> reboot~

Instead of typing a key on the keyboard when you see that message, if you  
wish to shut down, power off via the power button.  If you want to power  
off without having to use the power button, do as Dany suggests below and  
use 'shutdown -p now.'

Regarding rebooting into Windows rather than FreeBSD, please do as Greg  
asks and provide more information.

Jud

>>> and i have to boot windows(i installed FREEBSD and
>>> WINDOWS2000).
>>>
>>
>> Why?
>>
>>
>>>       Someone told me to configue the kernel.Add "device acpica"to
>>> the kernel and make it ~I did so,nothing changed,porblem is still
>>> there.HELP~!
>>>
>>
>> It's almost impossible to guess what your problem is.  Obviously
>> shutdown works.  Did you install the boot selector?  Please:
>>
>> 1.  Shut down the machine (with shutdown, not halt).
>> 2.  When you see "Press any key to reboot", turn the power off.
>> 3.  Turn the power on.
>> 4.  Describe *exactly* what happens.

> to turn the power off automatically, you should use :  shutdown -p now    
> instead of the -h which gives you this message.
>

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On Thu, Jan 01, 2004 at 06:23:15PM -0600, Eric F Crist wrote:
> On Thursday 01 January 2004 06:15 pm, Eric F Crist wrote:
> > On Thursday 01 January 2004 06:04 pm, Chris wrote:
> > > If you have source installed, that takes up a bit. If you don't see
> > > yourself doing a makeworld and building kernel - a binary install would
> > > have done nicely.
> >
> > I do have source installed, and I do a bi-weekly source update
> > automatically when my laptop is home.  I like having the sources there. 
> > Any other suggestions on which directories I can squash?
> 
> Never mind.  I seem to have forgotten you can do a make clean from the 
> /usr/ports and you're fine!

Try `make -DNOCLEANDEPENDS clean` instead, it'll run much quicker.

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+++ Eric F Crist [freebsd] [01-01-04 12:23 -0600]:
| Hello again all, and Happy New Year!
| 
| I'm trying to configure a system for my buddy who has an nVidia 440 MX video 
| card.  For some reason XFree86 will only do 8-bit color.  Anyone tell me how 
| to get it to do 24-bit color?
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check out /etc/X11/XF86Config

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I edited my /etc/ttys file in Easy Editor and then saved and exited (or 
so I thought) to enable kdm.  When I rebooted, my machine would hang.  I 
went back into /etc/ttys and noticed that the file is now empty!!

What is the best way to replace the file.  I'm not aware of a default 
file anywhere.  Will I have to manually recreate it, and if so, where do 
I get the data?

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I use the US Dvorak keyboard layout, and I find it very difficult to 
type in single user mode (when installing world, for example), because 
single user mode uses the QWERTY keyboard layout, and does not seem to 
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2/01/2004 5:05:21 AM, Lowell Gilbert <freebsd-questions-local@be-well.no-ip.com> wrote:
>> After the upgrade I get now 2 messages from sendmail daily when cron runs.
>> What's happened? Also, is there other/better solution?
>
>According to periodic.conf(5), daily_status_security_output is only
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it is the default, anyway I found the problem and set:

/etc/periodic.conf
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daily_clean_hoststat_enable="NO"

The "/etc/periodic/daily/150.clean-hoststat" script has been completely changed in 4.9
and now it calls sendmail.

Cheers,
Derek



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List,

sshd seems to be crashing my server. I am looking for any help 
regarding why this could be happening. I am running sshd version 
OpenSSH_3.6.1. Here is the output from dmesg:

the machine crashed every time when running

#ipfw show
or
#dmesg -a

for example and will crash when part way through the listing. Any 
ideas??

----
Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
fault virtual address   = 0x0
fault code              = supervisor read, page not present
instruction pointer     = 0x8:0xc023c52a
stack pointer           = 0x10:0xd9ff6bbc
frame pointer           = 0x10:0xd9ff6be4
code segment            = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b
                         = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
processor eflags        = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0
current process         = 394 (sshd)
interrupt mask          = net tty
trap number             = 12
panic: page fault
----



--will

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Hi,

I am trying to install SpamAssassin and I get the following error.

/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libutil.so.4" not found

I used to get an error of libexec/ld-elf.so.1 not being found , but I linked
my /usr/libexec to /libexec and seemed to get further.

I have checked the standard sites . Google , FreeBSD Mailing lists and man
paged to no avail.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Shawn

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Chris writes:

>  > Here's my df -h readout:
>  >
>  > $ df -h
>  > Filesystem    Size   Used  Avail Capacity  Mounted on
>  > /dev/ad0s3e   3.9G   3.9G -260.5M   107%    /usr
>  
>  If you have source installed, that takes up a bit. If you don't
>  see yourself doing a makeworld and building kernel - a binary
>  install would have done nicely.

	The source for 5.2-RC runs about 375 Mb.
	Try this:

	cd /usr
	du | sort -nr

	and see if any directories are suspiciously large.  (This is
sufficiently useful I have it as a cron job that drops it in my
morning mail.)
	Also check for core dumps:

	find /usr -name "*.core"


				Robert Huff




				

	

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Robert Downes wrote:

> I use the US Dvorak keyboard layout, and I find it very difficult to 
> type in single user mode (when installing world, for example), because 
> single user mode uses the QWERTY keyboard layout, and does not seem to 
> pay any attention to kbdmap (I think that's the command name - the one 
> with the interactive keymap chooser).
>
> Someone suggested that it's possible to compile the Dvorak layout into 
> my kernel, but how is this done, and is there an easier way of 
> changing keyboard layout in single user mode?
>

Okay, made some progress here.

Finally noticed that kbdmap says, quite clearly,

*BUGS* <http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=kbdmap&sektion=1&apropos=0&manpath=FreeBSD+5.1-RELEASE+and+Ports#end>
     The *kbdmap* and *vidfont* utilities work only on a (virtual) console and not
     with X11.

The single user mode is not a virtual console, as virtual consoles are 
not permitted to run during single user mode.

However, the command-line (non-interactive) equivalent is kbdcontrol, 
and it seems to suffer no such limitation.

So, once in single user mode, type

    mount -a

to make sure that /usr is mounted (needed because it contains the 
keymaps), and then type

    df

to check that the filesystems are mounted. (Actually, you may not need 
all of them.)

If /usr is now showing up, type

    kbdcontrol -l us.dvorak

and you will be reunited with the (cough... superior... cough) Dvorak 
keyboard layout.

This can be done with any of the available layout files in

    /usr/share/syscons/keymaps

However, never happy with a simple option, I wonder if there's an easy 
(read lazy) option... is it possible to automate this process, so that 
this command is run by default? (Or is that inadvisable because it 
requires /usr to be available, and /usr should not necessarily be 
available in single user mode everytime?)
-- 

Bob

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hi i'm user of freebsd 4.9,i have read a lot of manual ,i'm search on mor=
e
site,mailinglist,But nobody can help me.
i explain my situation:
i have a privat /64 address of ipv6 i want to start a Tunnel broker and
give /127 to all people (for my prov
der fastweb.it),My problem is:
on freebsd i dont find any command to route a /127 to other ip of pc.
i use this command but not work:
on gif0 i have the /64 3ffe:*:*:*::/64
the route is seto on Gif0 to have a working ipv6.
>>><<<<
ifconfig gif1 c
eate
ifconfig gif1 up
gifconfig gif1 myIP ExternalIP
route add -inet6 3ffe:*:*:*::/64 -interface gif1
sysctl -w net.inet6.ip6.forwarding=3D1
>>><<<
U know other command to do this?
by from fabio.




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Gautam Gopalakrishnan wrote:

>On Thu, Jan 01, 2004 at 06:00:23PM -0600, Eric F Crist wrote:
>  
>
>>How big is necessary for a /usr partition?  Mine keeps filling up and I've 
>>deleted /usr/obj and /usr/ports/distfiles regularly.
>>
>>Here's my df -h readout:
>>
>>$ df -h
>>Filesystem    Size   Used  Avail Capacity  Mounted on
>>/dev/ad0s3a  1008M    92M   835M    10%    /
>>/dev/ad0s2   1020M    19M  1001M     2%    /dos
>>/dev/ad0s3g   4.8G    69M   4.3G     2%    /home
>>/dev/ad0s3e   3.9G   3.9G -260.5M   107%    /usr
>>/dev/ad0s3f  1008M    27M   900M     3%    /var
>>/dev/ad0s1     24G    22G   2.9G    88%    /nt
>>procfs        4.0K   4.0K     0B   100%    /proc
>>/dev/da0s1     61M    61M   632K    99%    /umass
>>    
>>
>
>I don't think you need such big / and /var partitions...
>And you could merge /home and /usr and make home dirs on /usr/home
>
>Gautam
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>
Advice- leave /var and / the size they are, they're fine if the box 
stays up as a server and runs any public services- apache logs and even 
messages log files can fill up /var relatively quickly, and if you add a 
database or any other service that can potentially log verbosely if it 
encounters any problems (or if you enable debug logging), /var can grow 
quickly.

If you routinely delete rotated log files, and grow /usr to be 'big 
enough' (meaning don't merge it into / ), you can probably get away with 
half of what you're using for / and /var, but I wouldn't go smaller.

You can migrate /home if need be as suggested into /usr/home and update 
your home dirs in /etc/passwd, or you can also move the entire ports 
tree into your /home partition via symlink, which may sound funny but it 
a bit more 'traditional' on other *nixes- keeping generally static 
programs only in the /usr partition, and normally growing/changing 
contents in seperate disks (/var, /home).  The ports collection and size 
is changing by nature, and sometimes significantly (building X, KDE, 
OpenOffice, Mozilla and others from source).

You can do the following if you'd like:
mkdir /home/ports
cd /usr/ports
tar cpf - . | (cd /home/ports ; tar xvf - )

to copy the ports tree over to it's new 'home' (bad pun), then:

diff -R /usr/ports /home/ports
for your sanity, but unnescessary unless someone is doing a cvsup or 
build while you're copying files..

Then go ahead and blow away the original ports tree:
rm -fr /usr/ports

and symlink to it's new home....

ln -s /home/ports /usr/ports

My ports tree is currently taking up ~715M: (Ignore the df output, 
home/mail/ports are currently on a single RAID volume via NFS), with the 
/usr filesystem at 2.8G with a fair number of packages installed, but no 
KDE, GNOME, etc, so it can grow by a fair amount yet...

[0] # du -hs /usr/ports
717M    /usr/ports
[root@freeb] /var/log/
[0] # df -h
Filesystem             Size   Used  Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/ipsd0s1a          1.4G   157M   1.1G    12%    /
devfs                  1.0K   1.0K     0B   100%    /dev
/dev/ipsd0s1e          965M    22K   888M     0%    /tmp
/dev/ipsd0s2d          4.0G   2.8G   900M    76%    /usr
/dev/ipsd0s1d          965M    31M   857M     4%    /var
procfs                 4.0K   4.0K     0B   100%    /proc
sol:/export/home       182G    63G   117G    35%    /usr/home
sol:/export/mail       182G    63G   117G    35%    /var/spool/mail
sol:/export/ports      182G    63G   117G    35%    /usr/ports

Scott

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I am running 5.2-CURRENT on my PII-400 desktop.  I have done 3 installs 
of FreeBSD each time cvsupping to 5.2 current (using ISOs for 5.1 and 
5.2) to do the initial install.

EVERY time I get the following problem.  When I try to logout, reboot, 
or shutdown the machine from X, the machine locks up (no mouse or 
keyboard response) and I have to do a cold reboot.  I am presented with 
the black text screen seen during bootup right before it launches X 
(sorry, don't know what to call it) with my

login:

prompt (again, no response from keyboard or mouse input...it's like X 
shuts down entirely and then the machine locks trying to go to the next 
step).  This happens whether I use xdm, kdm, or gdm.  I have seen other 
posts with some similar symptoms refer to ACPI and disabling this (I 
can't find the entry in my BIOS to turn this off).  It's an old Asus P2B 
motherboard.  I'm not even sure it's the problem, but I'm willing to 
look at anything!

I really want to use FreeBSD, but having to do constant cold restarts 
when I shutdown or try to switch users is going to get old fast (not to 
mention the eventual damage to my files...even though I've got soft 
updates enabled;) )

I will provide any additional input I can, I realize it's not much to go 
on now, but hopefully those more knowledgeable than me can guide me to 
some things to look at to figure out why this is happening.

Thanks.

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On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 10:30 am, Eric F Crist wrote:
> How big is necessary for a /usr partition?  Mine keeps filling up and
> I've deleted /usr/obj and /usr/ports/distfiles regularly.
>
> Here's my df -h readout:
>
> $ df -h
> Filesystem    Size   Used  Avail Capacity  Mounted on
> /dev/ad0s3a  1008M    92M   835M    10%    /
> /dev/ad0s2   1020M    19M  1001M     2%    /dos
> /dev/ad0s3g   4.8G    69M   4.3G     2%    /home
> /dev/ad0s3e   3.9G   3.9G -260.5M   107%    /usr
> /dev/ad0s3f  1008M    27M   900M     3%    /var
> /dev/ad0s1     24G    22G   2.9G    88%    /nt
> procfs        4.0K   4.0K     0B   100%    /proc
> /dev/da0s1     61M    61M   632K    99%    /umass
> $

My /home is a link to /usr/home.  Isn't yours?
If it IS (notwithstanding your creation of a /home partition), that 
would explain why you have only 69M in /home but 3.9G in /usr.

The two partitions appear to be adjacent.  If they are, Partition Magic 
(or similar) could merge those two partitions non-destructively, and 
your problem would be solved.

BTW, on my system, I have separate partitions for /usr/local and /usr.  
That seems to even the disk space usage quite well.

/dev/ad2s1a   394M   249M   113M    69%    /
/dev/ad2s1f   6.9G   2.7G   3.6G    43%    /usr
/dev/ad2s1e   246M   191M    35M    84%    /var
/dev/ad2s1g   6.9G   4.8G   1.5G    76%    /usr/local

HTH


-- 
Regards,
Brian

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Reply to myself again, just to make sure this thread can be of use to 
anyone searching archives at any point in the future.

Stéphane Witzmann suggested that the kernel configuration be altered to 
specify a default keyboard.

So, after checking NOTES and the name of the keyboard map I want 
(us.dvorak), I changed my custom kernel configuration file (BOBKERN) so 
that it now contains a section exactly like this:

# atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse
device          atkbdc          # AT keyboard controller

device          atkbd           # AT keyboard
options         ATKBD_DFLT_KEYMAP
makeoptions     ATKBD_DFLT_KEYMAP=us.dvorak     # use Dvorak key layout

Once this was built and installed (see the handbook for advice on custom 
kernel building), I booted into single user mode and, hallelujah, it is 
now in Dvorak layout by default.

Thanks to Stéphane.

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On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 13:29, Trey Sizemore wrote:
> I edited my /etc/ttys file in Easy Editor and then saved and exited (or
> so I thought) to enable kdm.  When I rebooted, my machine would hang.  =
I
> went back into /etc/ttys and noticed that the file is now empty!!
>
> What is the best way to replace the file.  I'm not aware of a default
> file anywhere.  Will I have to manually recreate it, and if so, where d=
o
> I get the data?
>

# find /usr/src -name ttys
yields:
   /usr/src/etc/etc.alpha/ttys
and
   /usr/src/etc/etc.i386/ttys

I imagine the latter is what you want ;-)

Malcolm Kay

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Scott Mitchell wrote:

>On Thu, Jan 01, 2004 at 05:59:18PM -0500, Scott W wrote:
>  
>
>>Scott Mitchell wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>There no particular reason for an ATA RAID to be slower than SCSI, assuming
>>>similar disks in each.  10krpm 'server class' ATA disks are available these
>>>days, although I don't know that anyone has done a 15krpm one yet.
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>Does SATA have tagged queing?   (I don't know offhand if it does...?)
>>    
>>
>
>No idea.  I haven't used any SATA stuff yet.  Would be surprised if it
>didn't though.
>
It doesn't look like it does, although it's supposedly on the way with 
SATA-II, but see below...

>  
>
>>I can guarantee modern SCSI throughput is superior to any of the SATA 
>>drives I've seen to date.  Several of the 'hardware sites' (I think 
>>Tomshardware did a writeup on this or anadtech among others) agree with 
>>this statement as well.  ATA specs tend to exaggerate their capabilities 
>>even worse than SCSI specs do- burst speeds are all fine and dandy, but 
>>not realistic at all in the real world.  Meaning basically in short I 
>>wouldn't choose SATA over SCSI for a production server of any kind where 
>>speed was an issue.  ATA has gotten better by far than it was 
>>speed-wise, and I'd be OK with it on a personal workstation for any 
>>purpose, but it's still playing catchup.
>>    
>>
>
>Well, I won't disagree with any of that - ATA drives have been aimed at the
>consumer market, which wants big & cheap in preference to performance &
>reliability.  On the other hand, you've got drives like the WD 'Raptor'
>that seem to be mechanically what you expect in a server-class SCSI drive,
>but with a SATA interface, so the gap isn't that big anymore.  I stand by
>my statement above though - there's no reason an ATA RAID implementation
>_has_ to be slower than SCSI, provided that the disks are up to it.  In
>practice though, suitable disks are only just now starting to appear.
>
I did some digging on this, mainly because I remember reading a specific 
article.  The WD Raptor really IS pretty impressive, I've got to admit.  
Some benchmarks for single disks compared to an Atlas IV 10K RPM SCSI 
disk at Tom's Hardware:
http://www20.tomshardware.com/storage/20030501/wd360-01.html

So, it looks like things may actually become 'more interesting' over the 
next year or two basically.  I used to like WD drives quite a bit, but 
have also had a fair number of them die within a few years (as well as 
other IDE/ATA desktop drives), be interesting to see if they can offer 
the warrantees and constant uptime of SCSI drives over time...(some of 
the SATA drives only have 1yr warrantees, where 5yrs is pretty standard 
for SCSI..)

Pricing for the Raptor 36GB versus U320 SCSI 36GB drives is pretty 
comparable (raptors ~$130, Seagate SCA 10K U320 SCSI for ~$135 via 
pricewatch), but the larger SATA drives are still only 7200RPM, where 
you can get 15K RPM SCSI drives.

 From what I can tell, one of the current problems aside from spindle 
speeds for SATA is that they are exactly that- serial connections that 
can't be chained, so effectively need one channel per disk.  For home 
workstations, that's fine with two channels, and better yet with a cheap 
controller that will do hardware disk striping, but doesn't do much 
compared to SCSI and fiber channel RAID enclosures holding 10-14 drives 
each.  I've seen 4 channel SATA controllers, which can just barely do 
RAID-5 reasonably (2 data, 1 parity, 1 hot spare, effective, not 
physical), and it does look like 8 channel controllers are available, 
possibly a bit less than their SCSI RAID counterparts.  I was pretty 
impressed- check out the CPU utilization during the benchmarks...ignore 
the other ATA and SATA drives, but look at SCSI and the WD Raptor- ~2% 
CPU utilization while pushing a _lot_ of data (opposed to 20%+ for other 
ATA drives..)

Anyways, it will really be interesting to see if the SATA drives can 
last long-term and then compare 'em against 15-20K RPM SCSI RAID or if 
Serial SCSI is in a year or so- one of the interesting points is that 
SCSI using a shared bus, has an effective max of 320MB/second for each 
bus, which in turn can be up to 15 drives on each, where SATA, being 
serial, has it's limit per channel, but containing a single drive.  If 
the SATA drives can be made in reasonable capacities at 15K (or the next 
generation speeds) with a controller capable of handling 15 disks (or 
more), that could potentially become a real threat to SCSI.

>  
>
>>Write performance is awful locally, or over NFS?  NFS isn't exactly a 
>>speed demon.
>>    
>>
>
>Locally - with RAID-5 you have the extra overhead of calculating the parity
>for the block you just wrote, then writing that out to an other drive.
>According to the Vinum docs, write performance is ~25% of read, although
>how much of that is Vinum and how much is just the nature of RAID-5 I'm not
>sure.
>
Yep- part of the problem with software RAID.  On a non-heavily loaded 
server it's not an issue, as you might as well use the CPU cycles, but 
on a loaded database server, not so great.  FWIW, on a Sun box with a 
fiber channel array with an integrated Mylex based raid controller, 
reads and writes are within 1%, at least given the same quick and dirty 
test (using dd creating 32k blocks writing out a 2GB file).  Part of 
that 25% is due to using the system CPU(s) versus hardware to calculate 
the parity data, plus handling the individual writes to each individual 
disk, but the majority of the difference is probably due to the onboard 
cache on the RAID controller.  Older Sun boxes used to have an optional 
NVRAM module - without the module it wasn't worth using as a file 
server, it made that much difference...

Scott

>  
>
>>No comment on the unlimited budget as everyone at work just got 
>>(another) 'mandatory pay reduction'...but I do rememeber and miss those, 
>>$^#&*(
>>;-)
>>    
>>
>
>:-)
>
>	Scott
>
>  
>


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On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 15:44, Brian Astill wrote:
> On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 10:30 am, Eric F Crist wrote:
> > How big is necessary for a /usr partition?  Mine keeps filling up and
> > I've deleted /usr/obj and /usr/ports/distfiles regularly.
> >
> > Here's my df -h readout:
> >
> > $ df -h
> > Filesystem    Size   Used  Avail Capacity  Mounted on
> > /dev/ad0s3a  1008M    92M   835M    10%    /
> > /dev/ad0s2   1020M    19M  1001M     2%    /dos
> > /dev/ad0s3g   4.8G    69M   4.3G     2%    /home
> > /dev/ad0s3e   3.9G   3.9G -260.5M   107%    /usr
> > /dev/ad0s3f  1008M    27M   900M     3%    /var
> > /dev/ad0s1     24G    22G   2.9G    88%    /nt
> > procfs        4.0K   4.0K     0B   100%    /proc
> > /dev/da0s1     61M    61M   632K    99%    /umass
> > $
>
> My /home is a link to /usr/home.  Isn't yours?
> If it IS (notwithstanding your creation of a /home partition), that
> would explain why you have only 69M in /home but 3.9G in /usr.

One of the suggested setups is to provide home with its own partition.
And even though you don't use it it is not so uncommon.

>
> The two partitions appear to be adjacent.  If they are, Partition Magic
> (or similar) could merge those two partitions non-destructively, and
> your problem would be solved.

This sounds like a disaster --- partition magic works with MS
partitions or in FBSD terms slices -- to the best I my knowledge it does
not know about BSD style partitions.

I'd also be very surprised if it is able to merge BSD file systems=20
non-destructively.

Malcolm Kay

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Malcolm Kay wrote:

>On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 15:44, Brian Astill wrote:
>  
>
>>On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 10:30 am, Eric F Crist wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>How big is necessary for a /usr partition?  Mine keeps filling up and
>>>I've deleted /usr/obj and /usr/ports/distfiles regularly.
>>>
>>>Here's my df -h readout:
>>>
>>>$ df -h
>>>Filesystem    Size   Used  Avail Capacity  Mounted on
>>>/dev/ad0s3a  1008M    92M   835M    10%    /
>>>/dev/ad0s2   1020M    19M  1001M     2%    /dos
>>>/dev/ad0s3g   4.8G    69M   4.3G     2%    /home
>>>/dev/ad0s3e   3.9G   3.9G -260.5M   107%    /usr
>>>/dev/ad0s3f  1008M    27M   900M     3%    /var
>>>/dev/ad0s1     24G    22G   2.9G    88%    /nt
>>>procfs        4.0K   4.0K     0B   100%    /proc
>>>/dev/da0s1     61M    61M   632K    99%    /umass
>>>$
>>>      
>>>
>>My /home is a link to /usr/home.  Isn't yours?
>>If it IS (notwithstanding your creation of a /home partition), that
>>would explain why you have only 69M in /home but 3.9G in /usr.
>>    
>>
>
>One of the suggested setups is to provide home with its own partition.
>And even though you don't use it it is not so uncommon.
>
>  
>
>>The two partitions appear to be adjacent.  If they are, Partition Magic
>>(or similar) could merge those two partitions non-destructively, and
>>your problem would be solved.
>>    
>>
>
>This sounds like a disaster --- partition magic works with MS
>partitions or in FBSD terms slices -- to the best I my knowledge it does
>not know about BSD style partitions.
>
>I'd also be very surprised if it is able to merge BSD file systems 
>non-destructively.
>
I'm almost positive it doesn't.  Partition Magic also needs to 
understand the underlying filesystem, not just the partition table, as 
almost any operation aside from expanding a single partition on a disk 
with only one partition plus unused space would result in actually 
moving data around..   PM 8.0 (should be the latest I believe) can't 
touch Linux ReiserFS, so I'd be highly surprised if it understood UFS2.

Scott

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Recently I installed 5.2-RC2 for testing purpose and
saw an unexplainable behaviour of pppd 2.3.5.
I have an old FreeBSD 4.2 running and connecting via
modem with ppp to an ISP using ipfw, natd and pppd.  
Then I configured the 5.2-RC2 install logical identical,
but it does not route any packets. I can ping ppp0 but not
the default gateway. This was pppd 2.3.5.
Because I did not found anything wrong, I just copied the
old pppd binary version 2.3.1 from 1998 to the 5.2-RC2 test
system and this works! I was really surprised, because I
did not change anything except the pppd binary.

Any clue what is wrong here? Is it my configuration or
something in pppd? What changed in version 2.3.5?


Thanks, Achim



------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Here is what I configured.

$ pppd user username /dev/cuaa0  57600 connect 'my script'


/etc/ppp/options:
modem crtscts noipdefault defaultroute netmask 255.255.255.0 

/etc/rc.conf:
firewall_enable="YES"            
firewall_type="OPEN"             
firewall_logging="YES"
natd_enable="YES"                
natd_interface="ppp0" 
natd_flags="-dynamic "
gateway_enable="YES"

Kernel:
options         IPFIREWALL    
options         IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE    
options         IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100 
options         IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT 
options         IPDIVERT 
options         TCP_DROP_SYNFIN
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On Thu, Jan 01, 2004 at 08:57:06PM -0700, Shawn Dillon wrote:

> I am trying to install SpamAssassin and I get the following error.
>=20
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Hi,

I'm following the instructions in the handbook for diskless boot.
In Chapter 19.6.1.4 "Building a Diskless Kernel", it says:

"Build the kernel (See Chapter 9), and copy it to the tftp directory ..."

I have two problems here:
1. Chapter 9 only explains how to build and install a kernel on a
    running machine, where 'install' puts everything in root directory.
2. When it says above "copy it", what is "it" here? A file? Or files
    and directories (e.g. /modules/) ? And where is "it", after doing the
    'build' command as explained in Chapter 9?

Thanks for clearing up this matter for me.

Regards,
Rob.

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Hi
> Would you please advise where I can find a hardware compatibility list for
> GPRS and CDMA modems (or just a recommended hardware supplier/make/model(s))
> for FreeBSD?

being .de based, I don't know much about CDMA apart from how it works - as
of GPRS/GSM however, I can tell you that it's fully transparently usable if
you have a phone with a builtin softmodem that supports the AT command set
and the relevant GPRS extensions. 

With both my Siemens phones I can simply set different APNs with single AT
commands and getting the link itself up is a matter of normal PPP dialing
(number *99#). Siemens provides an excellent document containing all the
supported AT commands and their syntax - you can basically control the
entire phone through them. As of the connection to the PC, the usual data
cables do the job, I never bothered to f*ck around with IrDA or the like.
So, for me it's cu and userland ppp. Works like a charm. 


Cheers, J.

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I'm attempting my first 'portsdb -Uu' after a successful CVSUp, but am 
running into some problems:

idfubar# portsdb -Uu
Updating the ports index ... perl: not found
/usr/local/sbin/make_describe_pass2:70:in `write': Broken pipe 
(Errno::EPIPE)
        from /usr/local/sbin/make_describe_pass2:70:in `puts'
        from /usr/local/sbin/make_describe_pass2:70
failed to generate INDEX!
portsdb: index generation error

Where have I failed?

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Hi FreeBSD'ers!

I'm facing a funny situation that I don't really understand... I'm currently
running 5.1 (I thought it was -STABLE but the CDROM says -RELEASE, so I'm not
completely sure as I have had it for some time). It installed painlessly.

As I was reorganizing my hard disk, I thought I would upgrade to 5.2 but, for
some reason, it won't install. The CDROM image seems to have been written
fine, it boots properly, I can edit and select the various options, I can
repartition the disk (basically to erase the partition contents), the base
system loads fine ... until it tries to load the PERL package, where it
fails. As a number of packages depend on PERL, they won't install either.
This happens with both 5.2-RC1 and 5.2-RC2 (I remember seeing the same on the
latest 5.1-RELEASE too).

Anyone saw the same effect? Any clue of what could go wrong?
Thanks in advance
	Olivier

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On Friday 02 January 2004 01:39 am, Rishi Chopra wrote:
> I'm attempting my first 'portsdb -Uu' after a successful CVSUp, but
> am running into some problems:
>
> idfubar# portsdb -Uu
> Updating the ports index ... perl: not found
> /usr/local/sbin/make_describe_pass2:70:in `write': Broken pipe
> (Errno::EPIPE)
>         from /usr/local/sbin/make_describe_pass2:70:in `puts'
>         from /usr/local/sbin/make_describe_pass2:70
> failed to generate INDEX!
> portsdb: index generation error
>
> Where have I failed?
>

You may not have. Sometimes people update the ports and leave things 
out. If you have done a recent cvsup of ports-all, try the following.

cd /usr/ports
make index
portsdb -u

There are times when portsdb has problems and there are times when 
"make index" falls on its face. I had a good "make index" at 0000 
UTC.

Kent

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On Tue, Dec 30, 2003 at 12:06:06PM -0800, Nate Lawson wrote:
> AMD, Cyrix.  The amd64 arch is for the new 64 bit Opterons (i.e. FX64).

What is "FX64"???

"Opteron" is the server 64-bit CPU
"Athlon64 FX51" is the high-end desktop CPU
"Athlon64" is the desktop CPU
 
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OS: FreeBSD 5.2-RC2 (MAC - biba,mls)

Hi,

 I have problem with X on 5.2-RC2. Sometimes the whole
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I got some issues with sendmail and was hoping if I showed someone the =
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FreeBSD 4.8-RC1
sendamil 8.12.7_2




Thank you Shawn=20


This is from   /var/mail/maillog

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On Thu, 2004-01-01 at 20:43, Matthew Seaman wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 01, 2004 at 07:45:49PM +0100, Simon Strandgaard wrote:
> > In my wardrobe I have my noisy/fast server, to which I can connect via
> > the xdmcp protocol, either with my silent desktop machine or if im not
> > at home I can use ssh. It worked fluently for 6 months, but recently it
> > has become non-responsive and lagging. The network speed are 100Mbits
> > and I have killed all suspicius processes. I have even tried to restart
> > the server, but no luck. 
> 
> Two things to check:
> 
> Does 'netstat -i' show any errors, either on your server or on your desktop?
> 
>    If so, then there's probably a fault somewhere in your networking
>    setup.  It could be a simple as a network cable not plugged in
>    properly or as bad as your switch/hub slowly giving up the ghost,
>    or one of the NICs in one of the machines spiralling into oblivion.
[snip]

Solved:  It was a bad network cable.. Now it works again,  Thanks :-)

--
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         I want to upgrade the version of libiconv that is in this
machine (PC running freebsd 5.1).  So, I try pkg_add:

daffy# pkg_add libiconv-1.9.1_3.tgz
pkg_add: package 'libiconv-1.9.1_3' or its older version already
installed
daffy#

Ok then, I force it to be installed (-f option).  All I get in the end
is *two* entries of libiconv according to pkg_info:

daffy# pkg_info
XFree86-FontServer-4.3.0_1 XFree86-4 font server
XFree86-NestServer-4.3.0_1 XFree86-4 nested X server
[...]
libiconv-1.8_2      A character set conversion library
libiconv-1.9.1_3    A character set conversion library

Why can't it put the latest version in place of the older one?  I 
even tried to uninstall the old one first:

daffy# pkg_delete libiconv-1.8_2
pkg_delete: package 'libiconv-1.8_2' is required by these other packages
and may not be deinstalled:
gettext-0.11.5_1
gmake-3.80
lynx-2.8.5d14
daffy#

but, as you can see, it does not seem to like that.  Someone 
suggested me to install portupgrade as follows:

>  cd /usr/ports/sysutils/portupgrade
>  make install clean
>  rehash
>  <cvsup your ports tree>
>  portupgrade libiconv
>
>  should do all you need. :)
>
>

    I did the above, but ended up having two instances of libiconv:

daffy# pkg_info
[...]
imake-1.0           Imake and other utilities from XFree86
imake-4.3.0         Imake and other utilities from XFree86
jpeg-6b_1           IJG's jpeg compression utilities
libiconv-1.8_2      A character set conversion library
libiconv-1.9.1_3    A character set conversion library
libtool-1.3.4_4     Generic shared library support script
libtool-1.3.5_1     Generic shared library support script
lrzsz-0.12.20       Receive/Send files via X/Y/ZMODEM protocol. 
[...]
daffy#

How come?

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How can i connect two windows machine togehter using freebsd and =
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Hi,

I'd like to run Busybox (http://www.busybox.net/) or something similar on FreeBSD. Has anyone on this list succesfully managed to do so yet, or do you know about alternatives?

Ta,
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i want to create shared objects (.so files) in freebsd what is the command and the parameters for that.
 
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> I'd like to run Busybox (http://www.busybox.net/) or something similar on FreeBSD. Has anyone on this list succesfully managed to do so yet, or do you know about alternatives?

Sounds like crunchgen(1).

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On Fri, Jan 02, 2004 at 02:13:01PM +0100, Maarten wrote:

> I'd like to run Busybox (http://www.busybox.net/) or something similar on=
 FreeBSD. Has anyone on this list succesfully managed to do so yet, or do y=
ou know about alternatives?

Take a look at the contents of the /stand directory.  Notice how
virually all of those files share the same inode -- this is how you
can get a bootable FreeBSD system onto two floppy disks.

See crunchgen(1) for the command used to generate these sort of things.

	Cheers,

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On Fri, Jan 02, 2004 at 01:16:38PM +0000, niraj kumar wrote:
> i want to create shared objects (.so files) in freebsd what is
> the command and the parameters for that.

I think it's:
$ gcc -shared -o libname.so (object files)

Gautam

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5.1

I have a server with 5 public IP addresses, so I'm thinking I'll set it up=
 with one IP for the server (as a host) and the other 4 assigned to 4=
 jails. The jails are for websites...

>From a security standpoint, wouldn't it be better to run four instances of=
 ftpd (one in each jail), as opposed to one instance on the host server?

And from a security standpoint, should I run apache from the host server,=
 where I can configure mod_security the way I want, or just run individual=
 apaches inside each jail and let the website owners configure it the way=
 they want?

I like the idea of running things inside the jail, and recognize that if=
 the webmaster of the site configures it wrong, it's their problem not=
 mine, but is the jail secure enough to allow them that much access?

I have heard of hosting sites selling "virtual dedicated servers" by giving=
 someone root access to a jail, so I'm thinking jails are fairly secure.=
 Anyone with experience in this that can give me advice?

Thanks,
Chris

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On Fri, Jan 02, 2004 at 08:43:35AM +0000, Matthew Seaman wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 01, 2004 at 08:57:06PM -0700, Shawn Dillon wrote:
>=20
> > I am trying to install SpamAssassin and I get the following error.
> >=20
> > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libutil.so.4" not found
>=20
> You seem to be installing a FreeBSD-4.x package on FreeBSD 5.x.  To
> avoid this problem, (in order of preference, best last): either
> install the 4.x compatability libs, install a 5.x package or install
> from ports.

Other way around: 5.2 has libutil.so.4, older systems have .so.3.
Update to 5.2 or use packages built for your release.

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Jaroslaw Nozderko wrote:

>OS: FreeBSD 5.2-RC2 (MAC - biba,mls)
>
>Hi,
>
> I have problem with X on 5.2-RC2. Sometimes the whole
>system hangs when I start X by startx or 'setpmac mls/equal startx'
>(with MAC policies loaded). In about 30% of attempts it hangs on 
>XFree startup messages and hard reset is required.
>The problem occurs a little bit too often for some unrelated
>accident and it doesn't occur at all on 5.1-RELEASE (the same
>hardware and configuration).
>
>Does anyone have similar problem ?
>
>Regards,
>Jarek
>
>  
>
Yes, see my post from earlier today called "Can't shutdown, logout, or 
restart cleanly."  I have not run 5.1-RELEASE before, so I can't say if 
it didn't happen there, but it definitely happens with 5.2-CURRENT.  I'm 
at my wit's end trying to find out why!

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Malcolm Kay wrote:

>On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 13:29, Trey Sizemore wrote:
>  
>
>>I edited my /etc/ttys file in Easy Editor and then saved and exited (or
>>so I thought) to enable kdm.  When I rebooted, my machine would hang.  I
>>went back into /etc/ttys and noticed that the file is now empty!!
>>
>>What is the best way to replace the file.  I'm not aware of a default
>>file anywhere.  Will I have to manually recreate it, and if so, where do
>>I get the data?
>>
>>    
>>
>
># find /usr/src -name ttys
>yields:
>   /usr/src/etc/etc.alpha/ttys
>and
>   /usr/src/etc/etc.i386/ttys
>
>I imagine the latter is what you want ;-)
>
>Malcolm Kay
>  
>
Thanks, Malcolm.

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Hi freinds,

Wish you all a very Happy New year.

I am get some kind of error on my name server "nameserv1". FYI, TM25 =
system is laptop of out side client and OS is Windows XP Home.=20
nameserv1.lan.mycompany.com kernel log messages:

> 31 10:47:32 nameserv1 dhcpd: if IN A TM25.dhcp.mycompany.com domain =
doesn't exist add 300 IN A TM25.dhcp.mycompany.com 10.1.2.165 add 300 IN =
TXT TM25.dhcp.mycompany.com "31eb2f5e58786ebab0b6eabd298b28671f": domain =
already exists

I feel its some thing to do with Windows XP. Does any one know the fix?

Thanks in advance.

With Regards,

Ajitesh K




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Freebies -

I just finished a fairly lightweight ftp installation of 5.1-Release and
want to offer an X11 login screen. Basic XF86 seems to work fine. I
followed the 'Configuring xdm' instructions in Greg Lehey's
_Complete_FreeBSD_, ch.17, but didn't get quite all the way home.

I get the X11 login screen, mouse moves OK, but I never seem to focus the 
username or password entry panels so that my keystrokes are seen. Neither 
can I change to one of the other vt's (though I get 'bell' sounds on those 
which should exist). The server seems to have gone both modal and deaf.

Suggestions appreciated.

TIA.

 - John Mills
   john.m.mills@alum.mit.edu

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Tried upgrading my php to the latest but 'make' fails with the following
error:

/usr/ports/lang/php4/work/php-4.3.4/ext/gd/libgd/gdft.c:1060: structure has
no member named `advance'
/usr/ports/lang/php4/work/php-4.3.4/ext/gd/libgd/gdft.c:1061: structure has
no member named `advance'
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/lang/php4/work/php-4.3.4.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/lang/php4.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/lang/php4.

---Marius 

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From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk@phk.freebsd.dk>
> In message <029c01c3d12a$2488c2c0$471b3dd4@dual>, "Willem Jan Withagen"
writes:
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> >I'm running this compiler which is rather heap intensive and it crashed
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> >a SigFault
> >in calloc/malloc (I've tied both, but as expected calloc calls malloc)
> >What suggestions are there further to track this down to the real
problem.
>
> Try running with malloc flags 'A' and 'J'

That was one of my first attempts, but that did not help much.

I hate Heap problems...
2 bytes changed, and now I'm no longer able to reproduce the error.

So I've picked dmalloc from /usr/ports/devel to be my friend.
And it shows that the compiler tools are seriously messing up the heap.

--WjW

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Trey Sizemore wrote:

> Jaroslaw Nozderko wrote:
>
>> OS: FreeBSD 5.2-RC2 (MAC - biba,mls)
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have problem with X on 5.2-RC2. Sometimes the whole
>> system hangs when I start X by startx or 'setpmac mls/equal startx'
>> (with MAC policies loaded). In about 30% of attempts it hangs on 
>> XFree startup messages and hard reset is required.
>> The problem occurs a little bit too often for some unrelated
>> accident and it doesn't occur at all on 5.1-RELEASE (the same
>> hardware and configuration).
>>
>> Does anyone have similar problem ?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jarek
>>
>>  
>>
> Yes, see my post from earlier today called "Can't shutdown, logout, or 
> restart cleanly."  I have not run 5.1-RELEASE before, so I can't say 
> if it didn't happen there, but it definitely happens with 
> 5.2-CURRENT.  I'm at my wit's end trying to find out why!
>
Per a post I received on bsdforums.com, try booting up with ACPI turned 
off.  This can be done in 5.1 and later by choosing option 2 in the boot 
menu (Boot FreeBSD with ACPI disabled).  Once I did this, it worked like 
a champ.  I'm not sure why earlier versions may not have been affected 
by this or if it only affects certain hardware.

Let me know if this worked for you.

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On 01 Jan 2004 20:13:39 -0500
Lowell Gilbert <freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org> wrote:

> It's an artifact of the way the data structures get initialized at the
> daemon startup.  I don't see any problem with it...

There's no problem. It's just I like normal things :) usually when you
count your fingers you do not start by saying "ok so 10, 9, 8". That's
all...

I thought there was a real reason.

Regards

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Not knowing which compaq server you are referring to, perhaps this link will
help.

http://www.daemonnews.org/200003/cpqraid.html

I used these instructions and had FBSD4.8 happily running on Compaq5000R
w/ 4x200MHz CPU, 1.2GB of RAM, the Compaq 2P raid controller. However,
even though it has a scsi cdrom, I ended up installing via FTP. The system
would
lock up right after "Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle"...

You do have to set the primary OS as Unixware7.1 to be able to install 4.x.
I had
no success installing 5.x.

Good Luck!
--
Mohsin Rahman
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> Hi,
>
> I have a prolinea compaq system, one with no real bios. And yes, I cant
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>
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I currently have Apache 1.3.29 running and want to switch to the Apache
mod-ssl version. My question is, do I need to deinstall the standard apache
before building the mod-ssl one from the ports?  And what would be the best
procedure to minimize the downtime?  Thank you,

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Hello,=20

I am trying to have sendmail used clamd in order to filter incoming mail fo=
r
viruses on my mail server.

I have configured clamav following the instruction found here :
http://linux-sxs.org/administration/clamav-milter.html


I have modified my settings in order to have sendmail parsed these messages
with smthg like this added in my .mc file :


dnl ## milter clamav
INPUT_MAIL_FILTER(`clmilter',`S=3Dlocal:/var/clamav/clmilter.sock, F=3D, T=3DS:4m=
;
R:4m')dnl
define(`confINPUT_MAIL_FILTERS', `clmilter')


When I start sendmail and tries to send a test mail containing a virus
signature, I have a "send: Broken pipe" message...


Has anyone got a working way to use clam as a filter for incoming mail with
sendmail... ??=20


Thanks.=20


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I had another ACPI related problem on my asus (nvidia) a7n8x,
and posted to the 'current' mailing list.  One of the replies
suggested how to disable acpi cleanly:

At 09:17 +0200 01/01/2004, Danny Braniss wrote:
>try adding in file /boot/device.hints:
>hint.acpi.0.disabled="1"
>
>danny

That worked - it changed the boot menu choice from
"boot with acpi disabled" to "boot with acpi enabled".
tks
j

At 09:56 -0500 01/02/2004, Trey Sizemore wrote:
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>>Jaroslaw Nozderko wrote:
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>>>OS: FreeBSD 5.2-RC2 (MAC - biba,mls)
<snip>
>>> 
>>Yes, see my post from earlier today called "Can't shutdown, logout, or restart cleanly."  I have not run 5.1-RELEASE before, so I can't say if it didn't happen there, but it definitely happens with 5.2-CURRENT.  I'm at my wit's end trying to find out why!
>>
>Per a post I received on bsdforums.com, try booting up with ACPI turned off.  This can be done in 5.1 and later by choosing option 2 in the boot menu (Boot FreeBSD with ACPI disabled).  Once I did this, it worked like a champ.  I'm not sure why earlier versions may not have been affected by this or if it only affects certain hardware.
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On Wednesday 31 December 2003 02:04 pm, Francisco wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Dec 2003, Jason Bacon wrote:
> > 3ware IDE RAID.
>
> Agree on the 3ware controllers.
>
> > No such thing as cheap tape backups.  :-(
>
> If the amount of data can compress into a CD or DVD you could consider a
> burner.
>
> Moreover, although not a replacement for a tape backup or burning to
> CD/DVD you could also consider having an extra disk outside the RAID for
> backups. For example to keep multiple days of data on the second disk for
> easy/quick access.

We're using external USB disks for medium-term archival, and various optical 
media for long-term.  DVD-RAM is the most convenient, albeit slow and 
non-portable (R/W UDF support isn't quite there yet, so we're stuck with UFS 
for now).  With a USB2 interface, the USB disks are pretty fast, and you 
can't beat the convenience.  

One has to be very careful with USB disks on Unix, though, since they can be 
unplugged without warning while the filesystem is mounted, causing serious 
filesystem damage.  I experimented with various solutions (e.g. automounting 
and unmounting with synchronous write enabled), but nothing gave 100% 
protection.

Our RAID systems (ICP Vortex SCSI and 3ware IDE) are backed up on Mammoth or 
AIT tapes with autochangers using afio and chio.  Not a cheap solution at ~ 
$10,000, but there's no other way to automatically back up 1/2 terabyte on 
media that can be easily stored off-site.

Good luck,

	Jason

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I'm adminning some remote servers and I need to get
the drive model numbers so the owner can buy more
disks.  I've tried dmesg, but the only thing that
gives me is the raid volume and the raid adapter
model.  I can go to the server with ATA Raid and it
gives me all the drives and their model numbers there.
 Is there anyway (short of physically removing the
drive and checking the model number) to get that
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Hello freebsd-questions,

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Hi Everybody, 

	I'm using FreeBSD 4.9 with UFS file system support . I gave to
question .  I saw that single file can only grow 2 GB How Can I grow it? 
Does it tunable from Kernel or File System ? 

	Secound question is How can I change files system for example turn
FreeBSD 4.9  UFS files system to UFS2 ? or Does it possible. 

	Third I want to mount ufs2 file system in FreeBSD 4.9 but I can'T it
said that use mount_ufs2 command but it was not available then I tried make
world CVSUP --> REGEN_4 for maybe new feature has come but nothing change ..


What do I have to ?! 

Vahric 

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In the last episode (Jan 02), Daryl Chance said:
> I'm adminning some remote servers and I need to get the drive model
> numbers so the owner can buy more disks.  I've tried dmesg, but the
> only thing that gives me is the raid volume and the raid adapter
> model.  I can go to the server with ATA Raid and it gives me all the
> drives and their model numbers there.
>  Is there anyway (short of physically removing the drive and checking
> the model number) to get that information?

You'll need to use your RAID utility to list the drive info.  Some
Adaptec RAIDs use "aaccli" or "raidutil" (installable from ports under
sysutils/aaccli and sysutils/asr-utils).

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In the last episode (Jan 02), Vahric MUHTARYAN said:
> I'm using FreeBSD 4.9 with UFS file system support . I gave to
> question .  I saw that single file can only grow 2 GB How Can I grow
> it?  Does it tunable from Kernel or File System ?

FreeBSD 4 does not have a 2gb filesize limit.  I have created files up
to 50gb, and I'm sure other people have created larger ones.  If you
have a program that is having problems creating files over 2gb, the
program itself is probably at fault.

> Secound question is How can I change files system for example turn
> FreeBSD 4.9 UFS files system to UFS2 ? or Does it possible.

UFS2 is only available on FreeBSD 5, but unless you need a filesystem
larger than 1TB, you don't really need UFS2.

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On Thursday 01 January 2004 07:09 am, Francisco Reyes wrote:
> On Thu, 1 Jan 2004, Scott Mitchell wrote:
> > As for RAID, we use Vinum, but only because I inherited a bunch of
> > machines with hot-swap SCSI bays and no hardware RAID.  It works well,
> > once you have it set up, and I've even managed to swap out failed drives
> > without a reboot
> >
> > :-)  I'll definitely investigate the 3ware cards when I need to build a
> > : new
> >
> > RAID server, though.
>
> But wouldn't a 3ware RAID be slower than an SCSI setup? Unless your
> current setup is using old SCSI disks. Also how is the load? Lots of
> simultaneous use or just many quick/small access (ie people using
> documents/spreadsheets).

Well, I'm in a position to provide some comparison data with not-too-many 
variables, so I felt obliged to run a quick benchmark.  The program writes a 
large file (large enough to overwhelm any memory buffering) using low-level 
I/O, does an fsync() before closing, and then tests random seek and 
sequential read on the same file.  I watched the system load using top during 
the benchmark and took a snapshot near the beginning and end of the write 
cycle.

~~~~~

3ware Escalade IDE 560gig RAID-5 (8 x 80G barracuda disks):

Writing 1677721600 byte test file...
Done.  Time = 58.433367
Performing 1000 random seeks and reads...
Done.  Time = 0.235705
Performing sequential read...
Done.  Time = 7.303429

CPU states:  0.8% user,  0.0% nice, 17.1% system,  0.0% interrupt, 82.2% idle
Mem: 68M Active, 609M Inact, 279M Wired, 89M Cache, 112M Buf, 960M Free
Swap: 4081M Total, 240K Used, 4081M Free

CPU states:  0.4% user,  0.0% nice, 13.2% system,  0.0% interrupt, 86.4% idle
Mem: 68M Active, 1390M Inact, 279M Wired, 88M Cache, 112M Buf, 180M Free
Swap: 4081M Total, 240K Used, 4081M Free

~~~~~

ICP Vortex SCA 240gig RAID-5 (4 x 72 gig cheetah SCA disks):

Writing 1677721600 byte test file...
Done.  Time = 53.667167
Performing 1000 random seeks and reads...
Done.  Time = 0.220799
Performing sequential read...
Done.  Time = 5.114555

CPU states:  0.4% user,  0.0% nice,  9.6% system,  1.0% interrupt, 89.1% idle
Mem: 52M Active, 401M Inact, 274M Wired, 77M Cache, 112M Buf, 1201M Free
Swap: 4081M Total, 248K Used, 4081M Free

CPU states:  0.4% user,  0.0% nice, 25.1% system,  1.9% interrupt, 72.6% idle
Mem: 52M Active, 1601M Inact, 276M Wired, 74M Cache, 112M Buf, 3228K Free
Swap: 4081M Total, 248K Used, 4081M Free

Both systems are running 5.1-RELEASE, with 2 gig RAM.  The 3ware machine has a 
faster CPU (Athlon 1.6Ghz) than the ICP (dual Pentium 850), but this 
shouldn't be significant for raw I/O at these CPU speeds.

The CPU usage is lower on the ICP system (remember that it has a slower CPU 
when comparing the CPU loads).  CPU use consistently went up toward the end 
of the write cycle on the ICP system, but stayed flat on the 3ware.  

I noticed a drastic reduction of CPU load on the 3ware system when we went 
from 4.5-RELEASE to 4.6-RELEASE  CPU load has never been a problem on either 
server.

	JB

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On Fri, 2 Jan 2004, orlandina wrote:

> Hello freebsd-questions,
>
>   I have one problem with system. Always after rebooting it says that
>   file systems was uncorrectly unmounted and i have no way to recovery
>   system without reinstallation. Can you help with solving this
>   problem? May be problem is in compatibility with processor (Athlon
>   850)?

Hi!

Well, the cpu is the last thing to look after in these circumstances.

Please give data about the following things:
Your hardware setup
(Mainboard, IDE/SCSI-Controller, Hard drives)

post your /etc/fstab and the output of "mount" just before shutting
down.

How do you shut down? Do you issue a halt, or do you use the shutdown -h
now sequence?

Just wondering
Olaf


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On Thursday 01 January 2004 11:46 pm, Malcolm Kay wrote:
> > > $ df -h
> > > Filesystem    Size   Used  Avail Capacity  Mounted on
> > > /dev/ad0s3a  1008M    92M   835M    10%    /
> > > /dev/ad0s2   1020M    19M  1001M     2%    /dos
> > > /dev/ad0s3g   4.8G    69M   4.3G     2%    /home
> > > /dev/ad0s3e   3.9G   3.9G -260.5M   107%    /usr
> > > /dev/ad0s3f  1008M    27M   900M     3%    /var
> > > /dev/ad0s1     24G    22G   2.9G    88%    /nt
> > > procfs        4.0K   4.0K     0B   100%    /proc
> > > /dev/da0s1     61M    61M   632K    99%    /umass

> One of the suggested setups is to provide home with its own partition.
> And even though you don't use it it is not so uncommon.

As you can see above, /home is on it's very own partition.

>
> > The two partitions appear to be adjacent.  If they are, Partition Magic
> > (or similar) could merge those two partitions non-destructively, and
> > your problem would be solved.
>
> This sounds like a disaster --- partition magic works with MS
> partitions or in FBSD terms slices -- to the best I my knowledge it does
> not know about BSD style partitions.

Partition Magic can recognize a type 165 (freebsd) partition, but it does not 
support merging/resizing of these.  It does support the linux partition 
scheme, however.


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On Fri, Jan 02, 2004 at 11:10:56AM -0500, Marius Kirschner wrote:
> I currently have Apache 1.3.29 running and want to switch to the Apache
> mod-ssl version. My question is, do I need to deinstall the standard apac=
he
> before building the mod-ssl one from the ports?  And what would be the be=
st
> procedure to minimize the downtime?  Thank you,

Yes, you should de-install apache13 before installing apache13-modssl.
Although it's called mod_ssl, it is actually rather more than just a
dynamically loadable module -- the main apache httpd binary gets
patched to provide the 'EAPI' programming interface.

Best way to minimize downtime is to

    a) build apache13-modssl on a scratch box and test your
       configuration there.  Practice installing everything.  Once
       you're pretty certain it's going to work smoothly, and you
       understand how to install certificates and so forth, then:

    b) build apache13-modssl -- if you do this on the server it will
       cause the port dependencies to be installed automatically
       (basically that's just the devel/mm port) =20

    c) Stop the apache13 server and pkg_deinstall it. =20

    d) Install the pre-built apache13-modssl port

    e) Apply your local customizations to your httpd.conf, install web
       content etc.

    d) Start the apache13-modssl server: remember it's "apachectl
       startssl" to have SSL enabled.

If you don't want to build the httpd on the server machine, then build
what packages you need off-line.  Installation procedure will be much
the same as above.  If you have any other 3rd party apache loadable
modules (mod_php4, mod_perl etc.) these will need to be recompiled
against the new apache13-modssl server at stage (d) above.  At some
point running through a round or two of 'pkgdb -Fvu' to sort out
package dependencies is a good idea.  You can also put:

    APACHE_PORT=3D    www/apache13-modssl

into /etc/make.conf to make sure that all apache-related ports you
install subsequently will have the correct dependencies.

	Cheers,

	Matthew

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On Thursday 01 January 2004 10:15 pm, Scott W wrote:
> >>Here's my df -h readout:
> >>
> >>$ df -h
> >>Filesystem    Size   Used  Avail Capacity  Mounted on
> >>/dev/ad0s3a  1008M    92M   835M    10%    /
> >>/dev/ad0s2   1020M    19M  1001M     2%    /dos
> >>/dev/ad0s3g   4.8G    69M   4.3G     2%    /home
> >>/dev/ad0s3e   3.9G   3.9G -260.5M   107%    /usr
> >>/dev/ad0s3f  1008M    27M   900M     3%    /var
> >>/dev/ad0s1     24G    22G   2.9G    88%    /nt
> >>procfs        4.0K   4.0K     0B   100%    /proc
> >>/dev/da0s1     61M    61M   632K    99%    /umass
> Advice- leave /var and / the size they are, they're fine if the box
> stays up as a server and runs any public services- apache logs and even
> messages log files can fill up /var relatively quickly, and if you add a
> database or any other service that can potentially log verbosely if it
> encounters any problems (or if you enable debug logging), /var can grow
> quickly.

I'm probably going to leave everything as it is.  I ran a make clean from the 
/usr/ports directory, did nothing else, and this is now my df -h readout:

$ df -h
Filesystem    Size   Used  Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/ad0s3a  1008M    92M   835M    10%    /
/dev/ad0s3g   4.8G    70M   4.3G     2%    /home
/dev/ad0s3e   3.9G   2.2G   1.4G    61%    /usr
/dev/ad0s3f  1008M    27M   900M     3%    /var
/dev/ad0s1     24G    22G   2.9G    88%    /nt
procfs        4.0K   4.0K     0B   100%    /proc
/dev/ad0s2   1020M    19M  1001M     2%    /dos
$

As you can see, there is a massive decrease in parition use after that 
completed.  What I didn't think about was that I compiled all the following 
'hog' sources, kde, apsfilter, and x.

Thanks for the help/advice!
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I'm finally getting to the point where my disk capacity massively
outruns my tape capacity, so I'm thinking of converting to removable
disk-only backup. I could just use Amanda to backup to disk, but I'm
intrigued by Plan 9's archival filesystem where backups from (say Jan 1,
1999) would go in /1999/1/1 and you could just find the files directly
rather than grovelling through dump files. 

Is there some standard tool for doing this on FreeBSD?  You can't just
do a direct copy cause this results in major disk space wastage so I'm
imagining you need to use hard links or something to keep the size down.

Thanks,
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On Fri, Jan 02, 2004 at 06:03:21AM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 02, 2004 at 08:43:35AM +0000, Matthew Seaman wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 01, 2004 at 08:57:06PM -0700, Shawn Dillon wrote:
> >=20
> > > I am trying to install SpamAssassin and I get the following error.
> > >=20
> > > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libutil.so.4" not found
> >=20
> > You seem to be installing a FreeBSD-4.x package on FreeBSD 5.x.  To
> > avoid this problem, (in order of preference, best last): either
> > install the 4.x compatability libs, install a 5.x package or install
> > from ports.
>=20
> Other way around: 5.2 has libutil.so.4, older systems have .so.3.
> Update to 5.2 or use packages built for your release.

D'Oh! That'll teach me to post before the 2nd cup of tea in the
morning...

	Cheers,

	Matthew

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Hello,

 We are IzyData Software Developping company from Switzerland. And
 now, we are going to dedicated server. For our OS we choose FreeBSD
 4.9. And one problem appeared. We can't make working sata raid disks which are
 on mirroring, we simply do not see it in a system.

 Is this feature availible in 4.9 ?

 We have following hardware:

 CPU: P4 2.9
 Motherboard: ASUS P4800-DELUX.
 RAM: 2GB
 HDD: 1 - 40GB SATA (working).
 HDD: 2x240 WD Sata mirrow (not working).

 Could you please help us. And alse please tell if there a reason to
 install 5.1, which supports sata raid, as we heard.

 Thanks.

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orlandina wrote:

>Hello freebsd-questions,
>
>  I have one problem with system. Always after rebooting it says that
>  file systems was uncorrectly unmounted and i have no way to recovery
>  system without reinstallation. Can you help with solving this
>  problem? May be problem is in compatibility with processor (Athlon
>  850)?
>
>  
>
Most likely you have some rather bunged up
hard disk partition(s).

Please find a man page (on the web if FBSD
refuses to boot due to bad unmounts) and
check up on "fsck".

You will probably have to boot into "single
user" mode, using a dumbed down version
of /bin/sh (well, not dumbed down, really, but
it won't be able to find squat, cause your
other partitions won't be available, and therefore
neither will your $PATH environment variable)
and issue fsck commands followed by mount
commands using the full pathname to recover
from whatever has happened.... power failure,
perhaps?  Or as I said, bad HDD???

HTH,

Kevin Kinsey

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Hi Trey,

>
> Yes, see my post from earlier today called "Can't shutdown, logout, or
> restart cleanly."  I have not run 5.1-RELEASE before, so I can't say if
> it didn't happen there, but it definitely happens with 5.2-CURRENT.  I'm
> at my wit's end trying to find out why!

thanks, I've read it - I have Asus P3B-F motherboard :))
But seriously, I'm not sure it's hardware-related - I don't remember a
single occurence of this problem in 5.1 and 5.0. It seems to have
something to do with 5.2.

Regards,
Jarek

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I had this problem and traced it down to the fact that the default
location where clamav puts its socket is wrong. After editing
/usr/local/etc/clamav.conf so that LocalSocket looked like:

# Path to the local socket. The daemon doesn't change the mode of the
# created file (portability reasons). You may want to create it in a
directory
# which is only accessible for a user running daemon.
LocalSocket /var/run/clamav/clamd.sock

And the permissions on that directory are sorted (eg. clamav:clamav) it
all worked out.

Additionally, the logfile holds a wealth of info about what is going on.

Hope this helps,

Jon Mercer


On Fri, 2004-01-02 at 16:27, Greg Bernard wrote:
> Hello, 
> 
> I am trying to have sendmail used clamd in order to filter incoming mail for
> viruses on my mail server.
> 
> I have configured clamav following the instruction found here :
> http://linux-sxs.org/administration/clamav-milter.html
>
> I have modified my settings in order to have sendmail parsed these messages
> with smthg like this added in my .mc file :
> 
> 
> dnl ## milter clamav
> INPUT_MAIL_FILTER(`clmilter',`S=local:/var/clamav/clmilter.sock, F=, T=S:4m;
> R:4m')dnl
> define(`confINPUT_MAIL_FILTERS', `clmilter')
> 
> 
> When I start sendmail and tries to send a test mail containing a virus
> signature, I have a "send: Broken pipe" message...
> 
> 
> Has anyone got a working way to use clam as a filter for incoming mail with
> sendmail... ?? 
> 
> 
> Thanks. 
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Hello,
 
I'm trying to get some help installing the tarball in the subject line because I do not have an internet connection at home, and every time I have tried to build a binary from source
I've have been unable to because of some missing dependencies. I'm new to asking for
help but I would like some guidance simply to be able to start developing my own apps
and to be able to help some other poor slub who doesn't have a clue. So, I have freebsd
4.8 with linux compat enabled and I can't get the package to configure because it needs
" autoconf". So if anyone has an answer for me it would be a blessing. Happy New Year!
 
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I'm still not able to get failover working on ISC dhcpd, and it looks like
this list is out of answers.

The REAME in the work directory of the port mentions a couple of mailing
lists dedicated to that project (great anoth mailinglist to subscribe to
:-(), but it does not explain how to subscribe to them.

I'm too nice to send a message to the lsit asking :-)

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Thanks, Matthew, much appreciated.  I assume I'll be able to use my current
httpd.conf file, but just rename it to httpsd.conf?  

Also, if I get a certificate for www.whatever.com will I be able to refer to
it via http:// and https://?

---Marius  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthew Seaman [mailto:m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk] 
> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 12:20 PM
> To: Marius Kirschner
> Cc: 'FreeBSD Questions'
> Subject: Re: Changing Apache
> 
> On Fri, Jan 02, 2004 at 11:10:56AM -0500, Marius Kirschner wrote:
> > I currently have Apache 1.3.29 running and want to switch to the 
> > Apache mod-ssl version. My question is, do I need to deinstall the 
> > standard apache before building the mod-ssl one from the 
> ports?  And 
> > what would be the best procedure to minimize the downtime?  
> Thank you,
> 
> Yes, you should de-install apache13 before installing apache13-modssl.
> Although it's called mod_ssl, it is actually rather more than 
> just a dynamically loadable module -- the main apache httpd 
> binary gets patched to provide the 'EAPI' programming interface.
> 
> Best way to minimize downtime is to
> 
>     a) build apache13-modssl on a scratch box and test your
>        configuration there.  Practice installing everything.  Once
>        you're pretty certain it's going to work smoothly, and you
>        understand how to install certificates and so forth, then:
> 
>     b) build apache13-modssl -- if you do this on the server it will
>        cause the port dependencies to be installed automatically
>        (basically that's just the devel/mm port)  
> 
>     c) Stop the apache13 server and pkg_deinstall it.  
> 
>     d) Install the pre-built apache13-modssl port
> 
>     e) Apply your local customizations to your httpd.conf, install web
>        content etc.
> 
>     d) Start the apache13-modssl server: remember it's "apachectl
>        startssl" to have SSL enabled.
> 
> If you don't want to build the httpd on the server machine, 
> then build what packages you need off-line.  Installation 
> procedure will be much the same as above.  If you have any 
> other 3rd party apache loadable modules (mod_php4, mod_perl 
> etc.) these will need to be recompiled against the new 
> apache13-modssl server at stage (d) above.  At some point 
> running through a round or two of 'pkgdb -Fvu' to sort out 
> package dependencies is a good idea.  You can also put:
> 
>     APACHE_PORT=    www/apache13-modssl
> 
> into /etc/make.conf to make sure that all apache-related 
> ports you install subsequently will have the correct dependencies.
> 
> 	Cheers,
> 
> 	Matthew
> 
> -- 
> Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil.                       26 The Paddocks
>                                                       Savill Way
> PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey         Marlow
> Tel: +44 1628 476614                                  Bucks., 
> SL7 1TH UK
> 

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On Thu, 1 Jan 2004, Scott Mitchell wrote:

> There no particular reason for an ATA RAID to be slower than SCSI, assuming
> similar disks in each.  10krpm 'server class' ATA disks are available these
> days, although I don't know that anyone has done a 15krpm one yet.


That is the point. SCSI disks have historically outperformed IDE drives.
It is only in the last few years that the gap has started to narrow. I
also depends on the operation.

I have had really old SCSI drives outperform much newer IDE drives under
certain conditions. Specially where there is lots of random I/O at the
same time there is multi-user access patterns.

I think it really comes down to whether the user wants the absolute
performance (ie go with SCSI), or wants a better value for the money in
which case IDE would probably be the choice.

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At 09:50 AM 1/2/2004, stan wrote:
>I'm still not able to get failover working on ISC dhcpd, and it looks like
>this list is out of answers.
>
>The REAME in the work directory of the port mentions a couple of mailing
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>:-(), but it does not explain how to subscribe to them.
>
>I'm too nice to send a message to the lsit asking :-)

You might try ISC's site.

http://www.isc.org/services/public/lists/dhcp-lists.html

It's polite to at least try searching for an answer.

-Mark 

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On Fri, 2 Jan 2004, Jason Bacon wrote:

> Well, I'm in a position to provide some comparison data with not-too-many
> variables,


Thanks much for sharing the results.

They seem close enough that someone who is price concious or on a limited
budget may want to consider the 3Ware.

However, what a test like that may not show well is the difference when
having multi-user access. I think on that case the SCSI disks may do
better.

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On Fri, 2 Jan 2004, David O'Brien wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 30, 2003 at 12:06:06PM -0800, Nate Lawson wrote:
> > AMD, Cyrix.  The amd64 arch is for the new 64 bit Opterons (i.e. FX64).
>
> What is "FX64"???
>
> "Opteron" is the server 64-bit CPU
> "Athlon64 FX51" is the high-end desktop CPU
> "Athlon64" is the desktop CPU

I can't keep the model #'s straight since they don't make any sense.  Not
to mention it's impossible to find clock frequencies on amd.com.  But
that's pretty far OT.

-Nate

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On Fri, Jan 02, 2004 at 01:09:17PM -0500, Marius Kirschner wrote:
> Thanks, Matthew, much appreciated.  I assume I'll be able to use my curre=
nt
> httpd.conf file, but just rename it to httpsd.conf? =20

No, it's still called httpd.conf.  There's a whole passel of extra
configuration stuff to do with enabling SSL -- take a look at the
default httpd.conf that gets installed by the apache13-modssl port.
=20
> Also, if I get a certificate for www.whatever.com will I be able to refer=
 to
> it via http:// and https://?

Well, ish.  When you compile the port, you will be given the option to
generate several flavours of test key.  These will permit the HTTPS
server to work, but visitors will get pop-ups all the time warning
that your site isn't trusted.  You will have to generate a .csr
(Certificate Signing Request) and send it off to one of the CAs to get
it signed by a recognised key, and then everything will work smoothly.

	Cheers,

	Matthew

--=20
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What do I have to do to lower (or remove) the typical
10 second delay:

"Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt."

..I need this machine to boot ASAP and cant see to find anywhere to adjust 
this?

thanks in advance!




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"J.D. Bronson" <jeff_bronson@wixb.com> writes:

> What do I have to do to lower (or remove) the typical
> 10 second delay:
> 
> "Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt."
> 
> ..I need this machine to boot ASAP and cant see to find anywhere to
> adjust this?

I seem to recall that being an option to boot0cfg(8).

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For 4.x it's defined in /boot/defaults/loader.conf:

##############################################################
###  Loader settings  ########################################
##############################################################

#autoboot_delay="10"            # Delay in seconds before autobooting
#bootfile="kernel;kernel.old"   # Set the default boot file set
#console="vidconsole"           # Set the current console
#currdev="disk1s1a"             # Set the current device
#module_path="/;/boot;/modules" # Set the module search path

I believe you put the overrides to this file in /boot/loader.conf.

I'm not sure about 5.x

Tim


On Friday 02 January 2004 02:04 pm, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
> "J.D. Bronson" <jeff_bronson@wixb.com> writes:
> > What do I have to do to lower (or remove) the typical
> > 10 second delay:
> >
> > "Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt."
> >
> > ..I need this machine to boot ASAP and cant see to find anywhere to
> > adjust this?
>
> I seem to recall that being an option to boot0cfg(8).

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At 01:08 PM 1/2/2004, T Kellers wrote:
>For 4.x it's defined in /boot/defaults/loader.conf:
>
>##############################################################
>###  Loader settings  ########################################
>##############################################################
>
>#autoboot_delay="10"            # Delay in seconds before autobooting
>#bootfile="kernel;kernel.old"   # Set the default boot file set
>#console="vidconsole"           # Set the current console
>#currdev="disk1s1a"             # Set the current device
>#module_path="/;/boot;/modules" # Set the module search path
>
>I believe you put the overrides to this file in /boot/loader.conf.
>
>I'm not sure about 5.x
>
>Tim
>
>
>On Friday 02 January 2004 02:04 pm, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
> > "J.D. Bronson" <jeff_bronson@wixb.com> writes:
> > > What do I have to do to lower (or remove) the typical
> > > 10 second delay:
> > >
> > > "Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt."
> > >
> > > ..I need this machine to boot ASAP and cant see to find anywhere to
> > > adjust this?
> >
> > I seem to recall that being an option to boot0cfg(8).


I found that if I edit /boot/loader.conf and use this:
autoboot_delay="0"            # Delay in seconds before autobooting

it works quite well :)

thanks guys!

PS. I am on 5.2RC2








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Hi,

With Nate Lawson's help, I have my FC/SCSI target mode operations working;
now I need to make things work on the initiator side.

A  camcontrol rescan 1  causes the new target to become visible on the
initiator-side card.  But the target is listed as

  <FreeBSD Emulated Disk 0.1>     at scbus1 target 0 lun 0 (pass1)

which is to say that it is represented only by  /dev/pass1 .  How, on 5.2,
do I nake  devfs  and (if necessary)  GEOM  recognize it and create the
/dev/da0 , /dev/da0s1 . /dev/da0s1a , /dev/da0s1b , and so forth?

    Mark Terribile
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Hi,

I have just build a freeBSD box with some parts I had lying around. I was
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I just got this failure on a

FreeBSD freepuppy.bellavista.cz 4.8-STABLE FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE #3: Tue Aug 26 12:34:53 CEST 2003     roman@freepuppy.bellavista.cz:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FREEPUPPY2_5  i386

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what's up?

mklocale -o zh_CN.GB18030.out /usr/src/share/mklocale/zh_CN.GB18030.src
ENCODING GB18030 is not supported by libc
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Stop in /usr/src.
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Stop in /usr/src.
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Stop in /usr/src.

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This question has been asked yesterday.

Try using "shutdown -p now" instead of -h and you system should turn his
power off automatically.

DAny



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>Hi,
>
>I have just build a freeBSD box with some parts I had lying around. I was
>wondering what I need to do to make the machine shutdown completely. When I
>run the shutdown -h now command the machine starts the process and than I
>get the message that I need to press any key to reboot. I would like to turn
>off automatically.It used to shutsdown automatically in in Windows :-)
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> 
> Hi,
> 
> This problem even appears when installing the OS though
> sysinstall. Disabeling acpi was the solution.
> 

I just did a "buildworld" from 5.2-CURRENT and haven't had any problems.  I
did install by putting 5.1-RELEASE on the 8100 via ftp and then cvsup'ing 
sources.  The only boot error message I'm getting is that the AC97 version
is not recognized (it was recognized for a while).  I don't use sound,
however.

Same story with a Supermicro P6DGH/dual PIII/850.  I did discover that
if you try to back down from 5.2-CURRENT to 5.2-RC then KDE fails
unless it is recompiled.  There have been library changes since 5.2-RELEASE
separated from 5.2-CURRENT, and my attempt to do a portupgrade -af failed.

(I've moved back to 5.2-CURRENT since both systems are development; I
intend to move my nat and NFS boxes to 5.2-RELEASE so I can use the
same NFS everywhere and get away from the lockd/statd issues.

Mike Squires

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I run KDE, Gnome, and occasionally IceWM (although I haven't yet 
installed this on my FreeBSD machine).  Coming from a linux background, 
I'm a little confused about sound servers.  I have a SoundBlaster Live 
Value PCI card on my machine running 5.2-CURRENT. 

I have compiled my kernel with 'device PCM' and in my /boot/loader.conf 
I have put

snd_pcm_load="YES"
snd_emu10k1_load="YES"

What sound server(s) is/are recommended to install.  I know that Gnome 
typically uses ess, and KDE can use arts.  Should both of these be 
installed to have sound in these environments?  How about others such as 
Xfce and IceWM?

I want to enable system sounds as well as sound for XMMS and other 
programs.  The card is recognized and showing up in dmesg.

I've read in another post that I don't need to run

# sh MAKEDEV snd0

in the /dev directory with FreeBSD 5.X series, is this true.

Right now I have no sound.

Thanks.

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> > Also, if I get a certificate for www.whatever.com will I be able to 
> > refer to it via http:// and https://?
> 
> Well, ish.  When you compile the port, you will be given the 
> option to generate several flavours of test key.  These will 
> permit the HTTPS server to work, but visitors will get 
> pop-ups all the time warning that your site isn't trusted.  
> You will have to generate a .csr (Certificate Signing 
> Request) and send it off to one of the CAs to get it signed 
> by a recognised key, and then everything will work smoothly.

Well, I realize I need to get an "official" certificate to avoid those
annoying pop-ups, but what I'm not sure about is whether I can go with a
cert for www.whatever.com and use that for my https pages, or if I need to
get a cert for something like secure.whatever.com and use that for https
while the www.whatever.com will remain strictly http?

I guess what I'm asking is, in the httpd.conf can I have 1 entry for the
same virtualhost - one for port 80 and the other for 443?

---Marius

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Is anyone aware of a tutorial/documentation available for creating a
hardware profile? I'm thinking of something that allows the user to
choose to either configure a wireless or a wired NIC during bootup. I
could script it after bootup, but I'd prefer to do it during loader.

Will this require learning FORTH or is there a loader.conf or loader.rc tweak
that will do the trick?

Dru

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Don't use both device pcm and the .ko modules.  The sound won't work at all 
or, if it does, not properly.  You may not even have any keyboard beeps 
(^G's) if both are loaded.

Get rid of the device pcm and just load the modules.

KDE comes with artsd as it's sound server; some people love it, some people 
hate it and some people (like me) both love and hate it :)

Make sure you are loading the correct .ko file for your card, I'm not sure 
that snd_emu10k.ko is the correct one, but I could be wrong.

Tim Kellers
CPE/NJIT



On Friday 02 January 2004 02:49 pm, Trey Sizemore wrote:
> I run KDE, Gnome, and occasionally IceWM (although I haven't yet
> installed this on my FreeBSD machine).  Coming from a linux background,
> I'm a little confused about sound servers.  I have a SoundBlaster Live
> Value PCI card on my machine running 5.2-CURRENT.
>
> I have compiled my kernel with 'device PCM' and in my /boot/loader.conf
> I have put
>
> snd_pcm_load="YES"
> snd_emu10k1_load="YES"
>
> What sound server(s) is/are recommended to install.  I know that Gnome
> typically uses ess, and KDE can use arts.  Should both of these be
> installed to have sound in these environments?  How about others such as
> Xfce and IceWM?
>
> I want to enable system sounds as well as sound for XMMS and other
> programs.  The card is recognized and showing up in dmesg.
>
> I've read in another post that I don't need to run
>
> # sh MAKEDEV snd0
>
> in the /dev directory with FreeBSD 5.X series, is this true.
>
> Right now I have no sound.
>
> Thanks.
> _______________________________________________
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On Fri, Jan 02, 2004 at 03:03:39PM -0500, Marius Kirschner wrote:
> > > Also, if I get a certificate for www.whatever.com will I be able to=
=20
> > > refer to it via http:// and https://?
> >=20
> > Well, ish.  When you compile the port, you will be given the=20
> > option to generate several flavours of test key.  These will=20
> > permit the HTTPS server to work, but visitors will get=20
> > pop-ups all the time warning that your site isn't trusted. =20
> > You will have to generate a .csr (Certificate Signing=20
> > Request) and send it off to one of the CAs to get it signed=20
> > by a recognised key, and then everything will work smoothly.
>=20
> Well, I realize I need to get an "official" certificate to avoid those
> annoying pop-ups, but what I'm not sure about is whether I can go with a
> cert for www.whatever.com and use that for my https pages, or if I need to
> get a cert for something like secure.whatever.com and use that for https
> while the www.whatever.com will remain strictly http?
>=20
> I guess what I'm asking is, in the httpd.conf can I have 1 entry for the
> same virtualhost - one for port 80 and the other for 443?

Yes, you can have both http://www.example.com/ and
https://www.example.com/ simultaneously on the same server -- these
can have entirely separate content or can have exactly the same.

Or you can have separate virtual hosts with distinct names for HTTP
and HTTPS services.  Just make sure that the DN (Distinguished Name)
in the certificate you generate matches whatever you call your HTTPS
server.

Also, if you need more than one HTTPS virtual host on your machine, be
aware that you will need separate IP for each HTTPS vhost.  (It's a
catch 22 -- with Name Virtual Hosts the appropriate virtual host name
is selected using a field in the HTTP packet, but with HTTPS you need
to know which vhost the packet is intended for so that you can decode
it and work out which vhost the packet is for...

	Cheers,

	Matthew

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Hello!

OS version: 4.9-RELEASE-p1.
'device firewire' and 'device sbp' compiled into kernel.

I've bought two external FireWire drives (Maxtor 5000DV) as a cheap 
backup media. The idea is to use Amanda, define 5 "virtual tapes" on 
each disk, and swap the disk at the end of every week, keeping one of 
them off-site.

So I fdisked, disklabelled and newfsed the drives and added the 
following to /etc/fstab:

/dev/da0s1e    /backup    ufs   rw,noauto       0      0

Now I could mount the partition by just typing 'mount /backup', and 
copy files to it. Nice.

However, when I umount /backup and remove the drive, the da0 device 
somehow remains active (can be seen with 'camcontrol devlist'). When I 
then plug in the second drive, it becomes da1, which spoils all my 
beautiful backup plans. I would prefer that when I remove one drive and 
plug in the other, it becomes da0 again. So I need to get the 'old' da0 
entry to go away when unplugging the drive. How can I do that?

I tried 'camcontrol rescan 0:0:0' after disconnecting the drive, but it 
just hangs until I plug the drive back in. I tried 'camcontrol reset 
0', but this returned error 0x6 (IIRC).

The other way I can think of would be to create a script which first 
tries to 'mount /dev/da0s1e /backup' and then 'mount /dev/da1s1e 
/backup' if the former fails. But I hope there is an easier way.
--
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* MCSE - Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert

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In the last episode (Jan 02), Toomas Aas said:
> However, when I umount /backup and remove the drive, the da0 device
> somehow remains active (can be seen with 'camcontrol devlist'). When
> I then plug in the second drive, it becomes da1, which spoils all my
> beautiful backup plans. I would prefer that when I remove one drive
> and plug in the other, it becomes da0 again. So I need to get the
> 'old' da0 entry to go away when unplugging the drive. How can I do
> that?
> 
> I tried 'camcontrol rescan 0:0:0' after disconnecting the drive, but
> it just hangs until I plug the drive back in. I tried 'camcontrol
> reset 0', but this returned error 0x6 (IIRC).

Try just "camcontrol rescan 0" to rescan the entire FW bus.  I don't
know if scanning just a single LUN will allow the whole device to
disappear.  I think it was more intended for SCSI/FC RAIDs, so you
could add/remove/resize volumes.  Just guessing here, though.

-- 
	Dan Nelson
	dnelson@allantgroup.com

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On Friday 02 January 2004 07:19 am, Francisco Reyes wrote:
> On Fri, 2 Jan 2004, Jason Bacon wrote:
> > Well, I'm in a position to provide some comparison data with not-too-many
> > variables,
>
> Thanks much for sharing the results.
>
> They seem close enough that someone who is price concious or on a limited
> budget may want to consider the 3Ware.
>
> However, what a test like that may not show well is the difference when
> having multi-user access. I think on that case the SCSI disks may do
> better.

Actually, I think the test *does* show that.  It clearly showed that the SCSI 
system was somewhat less impacted by RAID access.  Hence it would follow that 
the SCSI system could handle a somewhat heavier load before seeing a 
performance drop.  The choice would depend how much the extra bandwidth is 
worth to you, assuming your usage patterns could make use of it at times.

I can tell you that our users have never complained about performance of the 
server.  We have relatively few users (1-10 at a time) running fairly intense 
data analysis (on the order of 1 hour total CPU time + processing gigabytes 
of 3d brain images ) either running on the server or over NFS.

If you're wondering how they perform under heavy process loads, note that 
Yahoo is using the 3ware controllers extensively.  Maybe they'd be willing to 
share their experience...

Regards,

	Jason

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Jaroslaw Nozderko wrote:
[...]
>> Yes, see my post from earlier today called "Can't shutdown, logout,
>> or restart cleanly."
[...]
> thanks, I've read it - I have Asus P3B-F motherboard :))
> But seriously, I'm not sure it's hardware-related - I don't remember
> a single occurence of this problem in 5.1 and 5.0. It seems to have 
> something to do with 5.2.
[...]

I agree: I experienced X11 freezes on 5.2 with both a nvidia card as
well as a card using the i740 chipset. The nv freezed the computer as
soon as I started X, the i740 happend to freeze it when I killed the X
server
Also, I saw two similar reports on the -current list.

However, I managed to work around these freezes by removing the two
SMP-related lines from my kernel configuration:

options         SMP  # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel
device          apic # I/O APIC


Additionally, I am sure ACPI does not have anything to do with this --
at least on this box.

HTH
- Martin

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On Friday 02 January 2004 02:06 pm, Dru wrote:
> Is anyone aware of a tutorial/documentation available for creating a
> hardware profile? I'm thinking of something that allows the user to
> choose to either configure a wireless or a wired NIC during bootup. I
> could script it after bootup, but I'd prefer to do it during loader.
>
FWIW, I have a wired NIC and a wifi NIC.  The wifi doesn't attempt to do DHCP 
unless it's plugged in.  The wired NIC is integrated, so it always tries to 
look and if there's a connection, it works, if not, obviously no.  If you're 
using PCMCIA wifi/wired NICs this is pretty trivial to accomplish.  It's 
simply the lines:

pccard_enable="YES"
pccard_ifconfig="DHCP"

Put these in your rc.conf file.  For more options see man rc.conf.

HTH

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On Friday 02 January 2004 02:06 pm, T Kellers wrote:
> Don't use both device pcm and the .ko modules.  The sound won't work at all
> or, if it does, not properly.  You may not even have any keyboard beeps
> (^G's) if both are loaded.

I find I only add the device pcm line to my kernel and everything works fine.  
Gnome, KDE, console beeps.  Everything works and I don't usually worry about 
the sound servers.  When you install one of the window managers, as long as 
you install the multimedia package, the correct sound server gets installed 
too.  This has been working for me for about 5 years now.

HTH

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Freebies -

I have an installation I'm comfortable with, between those ports I chose 
to install, those I chose _not_ to install, and those I went around and 
added individually. Now I want to install the same set in a number of 
other systems. I know I can get a list of installed options with 
'pkg_info', but I don't know how to make the best use of the list.

The machines have 3.5" diskettes, _just_sufficient_ hard drives, netowrk
interface cards, and no CD-ROMs. They hang on a LAN served with DHCP.

I would like to avoid doing manual selection each time, of course. I would
prefer to do independent passive-FTP installations from a FreeBSD.org
server for each target machine rather than a disk-slice copy because I
wouldn't have to remove the drives from the computers.

What are my options, and your recommendations?

TIA.
 
 - John Mills
   john.m.mills@alum.mit.edu

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On Jan 2, 2004, at 9:26 AM, Eric Rescorla wrote:

> I'm finally getting to the point where my disk capacity massively
> outruns my tape capacity, so I'm thinking of converting to removable
> disk-only backup. I could just use Amanda to backup to disk, but I'm
> intrigued by Plan 9's archival filesystem where backups from (say Jan 
> 1,
> 1999) would go in /1999/1/1 and you could just find the files directly
> rather than grovelling through dump files.
>
> Is there some standard tool for doing this on FreeBSD?  You can't just
> do a direct copy cause this results in major disk space wastage so I'm
> imagining you need to use hard links or something to keep the size 
> down.
>

I followed this on your weblog and I may be missing something: I keep 
coming back to some cocktail of find(1), ctime(3), diff(1) and friends 
(pax, tar) to locate and mirror only changed files in a duplicated 
hierarchy. If I'm understanding it, in 1999/1/1 you might have a file 
tree that looks like the "live" one with only files that were modified 
on 1999/1/1, but all other files would be links back to their unchanged 
versions.

I like the idea of it.
--
Paul Beard
<www.paulbeard.org/>
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Bear" <David.Bear@asu.edu>
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> the NIC selection at the local store was terrible. I ended up buying a
> netgear FA311.  I cannot tell what chipset this has..  It is the
> numbers VS318AG in it..
>
> anyone used a netgear nic with fbsd 4.9?

I think I am using two of them but I can't remember for sure and am
unwilling to open my box just to find out. :)  It's a standard PCI
10/100 card and they show up in my dmesg.boot file as this:

dc0: <82c169 PNIC 10/100BaseTX> port 0x6100-0x61ff mem
0xf4000000-0xf40000ff irq
 10 at device 18.0 on pci0

dc1: <82c169 PNIC 10/100BaseTX> port 0x6200-0x62ff mem
0xf4001000-0xf40010ff irq
 11 at device 19.0 on pci0

So they use the 'dc' driver.

HTH,

Drew

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John Mills wrote:
[...]
> I have an installation I'm comfortable with, between those ports I chose 
> to install, those I chose _not_ to install, and those I went around and 
> added individually. Now I want to install the same set in a number of 
> other systems. 
[...]
> The machines have 3.5" diskettes, _just_sufficient_ hard drives, netowrk
> interface cards, and no CD-ROMs. They hang on a LAN served with DHCP.
[...]
> What are my options, and your recommendations?

Assuming all machines have similar installations of FreeBSD, you could 
just cp -Rp /usr/local to the other machines over the network -- or have 
  it just NFS mounted (no local copy on each machine).
Additionally, you would have to copy missing items from /var/db/pkg to 
the other machines. And possibly diff/merge some files in /etc (some 
ports may need additional user accounts, etc).

Greetings,
Martin

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On Fri, Jan 02, 2004 at 10:45:51AM -0800, Nate Lawson wrote:
> Not to mention it's impossible to find clock frequencies on amd.com.

Agreed, the easiest public way I've found is:

    goto http://ask.amd.com/
    select Desktop, Server, Workstation Processor Products
    search "CPU specs"

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--- Drew Tomlinson <drew@mykitchentable.net> wrote:
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Bear" <David.Bear@asu.edu>
> To: <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 8:36 PM
> Subject: netgear nic
> 
> 
> > the NIC selection at the local store was terrible.
> I ended up buying a
> > netgear FA311.  I cannot tell what chipset this
> has..  It is the
> > numbers VS318AG in it..
> >
> > anyone used a netgear nic with fbsd 4.9?
> 
> I think I am using two of them but I can't remember
> for sure and am
> unwilling to open my box just to find out. :)  It's
> a standard PCI
> 10/100 card and they show up in my dmesg.boot file
> as this:
> 
> dc0: <82c169 PNIC 10/100BaseTX> port 0x6100-0x61ff
> mem
> 0xf4000000-0xf40000ff irq
>  10 at device 18.0 on pci0
> 
> dc1: <82c169 PNIC 10/100BaseTX> port 0x6200-0x62ff
> mem
> 0xf4001000-0xf40010ff irq
>  11 at device 19.0 on pci0
> 
> So they use the 'dc' driver.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Drew
> 
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FWIW: I have a FA411 PCMCIA, use ed on FBSD 4.8. Works
great.

dmesg:
<snip>
ed1 at port 0x300-0x31f irq 11 flags 0x30000 slot 1 on
pccard1
ed1: address xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx, type NE2000 (16 bit)

HTH,
/Dorin.



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Martin Brecher <listuser@mb-itconsulting.com> writes:

> John Mills wrote:
> [...]
> > I have an installation I'm comfortable with, between those ports I
> > chose to install, those I chose _not_ to install, and those I went
> > around and added individually. Now I want to install the same set in
> > a number of other systems.
> [...]
> > The machines have 3.5" diskettes, _just_sufficient_ hard drives, netowrk
> > interface cards, and no CD-ROMs. They hang on a LAN served with DHCP.
> [...]
> > What are my options, and your recommendations?
> 
> Assuming all machines have similar installations of FreeBSD, you could
> just cp -Rp /usr/local to the other machines over the network -- or
> have it just NFS mounted (no local copy on each machine).
> Additionally, you would have to copy missing items from /var/db/pkg to
> the other machines. And possibly diff/merge some files in /etc (some
> ports may need additional user accounts, etc).

And the X11 tree, too...

It would probably be easiest to make packages of the ports, and
install them from a central server.

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Will Prater <lists-wp@mercurycloud.net> writes:

> List,
> 
> sshd seems to be crashing my server. I am looking for any help
> regarding why this could be happening. I am running sshd version
> OpenSSH_3.6.1. Here is the output from dmesg:
> 
> the machine crashed every time when running
> 
> #ipfw show
> or
> #dmesg -a
> 
> for example and will crash when part way through the listing. Any
> ideas??
> 
> ----
> Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
> fault virtual address   = 0x0
> fault code              = supervisor read, page not present
> instruction pointer     = 0x8:0xc023c52a
> stack pointer           = 0x10:0xd9ff6bbc
> frame pointer           = 0x10:0xd9ff6be4
> code segment            = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b
>                          = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
> processor eflags        = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0
> current process         = 394 (sshd)
> interrupt mask          = net tty
> trap number             = 12
> panic: page fault

1) What version of FreeBSD?
2) How did you install that version of OpenSSH?

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Eric F Crist wrote:

>On Friday 02 January 2004 02:06 pm, T Kellers wrote:
>  
>
>>Don't use both device pcm and the .ko modules.  The sound won't work at all
>>or, if it does, not properly.  You may not even have any keyboard beeps
>>(^G's) if both are loaded.
>>    
>>
>
>I find I only add the device pcm line to my kernel and everything works fine.  
>Gnome, KDE, console beeps.  Everything works and I don't usually worry about 
>the sound servers.  When you install one of the window managers, as long as 
>you install the multimedia package, the correct sound server gets installed 
>too.  This has been working for me for about 5 years now.
>
>HTH
>
>  
>
Update here...I have removed the entries in /boot/loader.conf and now 
only have the kernel compiled with my 'device PCM' entry.

'dmesg | grep pcm' shows my soundcard entry and cat /dev/sndstat shows 
it as well.

I have rebooted after taking the entries out of loader.conf.

When I try something like

% play KDE_Beep_Ahem.wav

I get:

play: /dev/dsp: Operation not supported by device

What might be causing this that I could look into?

Thanks.

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I was wondering which AMD Processors are compatible with FreeBSD. I have a 
Athlon XP 2700 and wanted to know if it would work. I was also going to 
build a Dual Processor machine using Athlon MP Processors. If any of these 
work could you let me know before I decide to use FreeBSD. Thank you for 
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I have noticed that when building apps (via gcc for example) that my free 
RAM (seen via 'top') is diminishing down to almost nothing...

Is it going to buffer space?

it looks like at this rate, I will start swapping soon...

Any comments or any way to change this behavior?

..I dont remember this 'issue' on 4.9....




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On Friday 02 January 2004 06:49 pm, Trey Sizemore wrote:
> Eric F Crist wrote:
> >On Friday 02 January 2004 02:06 pm, T Kellers wrote:
> >>Don't use both device pcm and the .ko modules.  The sound won't work at
> >> all or, if it does, not properly.  You may not even have any keyboard
> >> beeps (^G's) if both are loaded.
> >
> >I find I only add the device pcm line to my kernel and everything works
> > fine. Gnome, KDE, console beeps.  Everything works and I don't usually
> > worry about the sound servers.  When you install one of the window
> > managers, as long as you install the multimedia package, the correct
> > sound server gets installed too.  This has been working for me for about
> > 5 years now.
> >
> >HTH
>
> Update here...I have removed the entries in /boot/loader.conf and now
> only have the kernel compiled with my 'device PCM' entry.
>
> 'dmesg | grep pcm' shows my soundcard entry and cat /dev/sndstat shows
> it as well.
>
> I have rebooted after taking the entries out of loader.conf.
>
> When I try something like
>
> % play KDE_Beep_Ahem.wav
>
> I get:
>
> play: /dev/dsp: Operation not supported by device
>
> What might be causing this that I could look into?
>

%play /usr/local/share/sounds/KDE_Beep_Ahem.wav
play: /dev/dsp: Operation not supported by device


I get that same message after I've shut down the arts server

However
artsplay /usr/local/share/sounds/KDE_Beep_Ahem.wav

works fine as long as artsd is running

%ps -ax | grep arts
14333  p0  S      0:01.69 artsd
14343  p0  R+     0:00.00 grep arts


If you have KDE installed, try:

%artsd &
%artsplay /usr/local/share/sounds/KDE_Beep_Ahem.wav

You should hear Mr Ahem clear his throat right from the command line.

Tim 


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Hi Martin,

> I agree: I experienced X11 freezes on 5.2 with both a nvidia card as
> well as a card using the i740 chipset. The nv freezed the computer as
> soon as I started X, the i740 happend to freeze it when I killed the X
> server

I also have nvidia - Geforce 256. And for me it also freezed 
on startx.

> Also, I saw two similar reports on the -current list.
>
> However, I managed to work around these freezes by removing the two
> SMP-related lines from my kernel configuration:
>
> options         SMP  # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel
> device          apic # I/O APIC
>
>
> Additionally, I am sure ACPI does not have anything to do with this --
> at least on this box.
>

Well, it's getting more and more interesting... 
I'm curious what does it have to do with SMP ?

Are you sure it has nothing to do with ACPI ?
Other posters suggests disabling ACPI. Did you try
and it didn't help ?

Regards,
Jarek

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"J.D. Bronson" <jeff_bronson@wixb.com> writes:

> I have noticed that when building apps (via gcc for example) that my
> free RAM (seen via 'top') is diminishing down to almost nothing...

"Free RAM is wasted RAM."

> Is it going to buffer space?
> 
> it looks like at this rate, I will start swapping soon...

I doubt it.  I'm sure the system keeps converting buffer and inactive
memory into free memory as it needs it.

> Any comments or any way to change this behavior?
> 
> ..I dont remember this 'issue' on 4.9....

The FreeBSD virtual memory implementation has always tried to keep
memory full.  This is the subject of a very popular entry in the
FreeBSD Frequently Asked Questions list:
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/misc.html#TOP-FREEMEM
-- 
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Trey Sizemore <trey@fastmail.fm> writes:

> I am running 5.2-CURRENT on my PII-400 desktop.  I have done 3
> installs of FreeBSD each time cvsupping to 5.2 current (using ISOs for
> 5.1 and 5.2) to do the initial install.
> 
> EVERY time I get the following problem.  When I try to logout, reboot,
> or shutdown the machine from X, the machine locks up (no mouse or
> keyboard response) and I have to do a cold reboot.  I am presented
> with the black text screen seen during bootup right before it launches
> X (sorry, don't know what to call it) with my
> 
> login:
> 
> prompt (again, no response from keyboard or mouse input...it's like X
> shuts down entirely and then the machine locks trying to go to the
> next step).  This happens whether I use xdm, kdm, or gdm.  I have seen
> other posts with some similar symptoms refer to ACPI and disabling
> this (I can't find the entry in my BIOS to turn this off).  It's an
> old Asus P2B motherboard.  I'm not even sure it's the problem, but I'm
> willing to look at anything!

5.1 has an errata entry describing how to disable the ACPI code in
that release:  there's a new and supposedly easy way of doing this in
5.2, but I haven't seen it yet (I'm still on 4.x myself).

> I really want to use FreeBSD, but having to do constant cold restarts
> when I shutdown or try to switch users is going to get old fast (not
> to mention the eventual damage to my files...even though I've got soft
> updates enabled;) )
> 
> I will provide any additional input I can, I realize it's not much to
> go on now, but hopefully those more knowledgeable than me can guide me
> to some things to look at to figure out why this is happening.

Does this happen with the release versions?
Does it happen if you don't enable X at all?  [In other words, is this
  an OS problem or an X11 problem...]
How did you install X, and what does your X configuration look like?

-- 
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At 06:52 PM 1/2/2004, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
>"J.D. Bronson" <jeff_bronson@wixb.com> writes:
>
> > I have noticed that when building apps (via gcc for example) that my
> > free RAM (seen via 'top') is diminishing down to almost nothing...
>
>"Free RAM is wasted RAM."
>
> > Is it going to buffer space?
> >
> > it looks like at this rate, I will start swapping soon...
>
>I doubt it.  I'm sure the system keeps converting buffer and inactive
>memory into free memory as it needs it.
>
> > Any comments or any way to change this behavior?
> >
> > ..I dont remember this 'issue' on 4.9....
>
>The FreeBSD virtual memory implementation has always tried to keep
>memory full.  This is the subject of a very popular entry in the
>FreeBSD Frequently Asked Questions list:
>  http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/misc.html#TOP-FREEMEM
>--
>Lowell Gilbert,

Thanks...I didnt this before and now I feel better :)







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Rob <nospam@users.sourceforge.net> writes:

> I'm following the instructions in the handbook for diskless boot.
> In Chapter 19.6.1.4 "Building a Diskless Kernel", it says:
> 
> "Build the kernel (See Chapter 9), and copy it to the tftp directory ..."
> 
> I have two problems here:
> 1. Chapter 9 only explains how to build and install a kernel on a
>     running machine, where 'install' puts everything in root directory.

Right.  So you do the "build" part and not the "install" part, and
copy the kernel to the appropriate spot.

> 2. When it says above "copy it", what is "it" here? A file? Or files
>     and directories (e.g. /modules/) ? And where is "it", after doing the
>     'build' command as explained in Chapter 9?

"It" is the kernel.  A file named "kernel".  If you follow the first
kernel-building procedure in the section (currently) number 9.3, then
instead of the final step ("make install"), just try "ls kernel".

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How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions.
===================================================

Last update $Date: 2003/03/09 22:09:31 $

This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD questions mailing list.  If
you got it in answer to a message you sent, it means that the sender
thinks that at least one of the following things was wrong with your
message:

- You left out a subject line, or the subject line was not appropriate.
- You formatted it in such a way that it was difficult to read.
- You asked more than one unrelated question in one message.
- You sent out a message with an incorrect date, time or time zone.
- You sent out the same message more than once.
- You sent an 'unsubscribe' message to FreeBSD-questions.

If you have done any of these things, there is a good chance that you
will get more than one copy of this message from different people.
Read on, and your next message will be more successful.

This document is also available on the web at
http://www.lemis.com/questions.html.

=====================================================================

Contents:

I:    Introduction
II:   How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions
III:  Should I ask -questions, -newbies or -hackers?
IV:   How to submit a question to FreeBSD-questions
V:    How to answer a question to FreeBSD-questions

I: Introduction
===============

This is a regular posting aimed to help both those seeking advice from
FreeBSD-questions (the "newcomers"), and also those who answer the
questions (the "hackers").

       Note that the term "hacker" has nothing to do with breaking
       into other people's computers.  The correct term for the latter
       activity is "cracker", but the popular press hasn't found out
       yet.  The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking
       security, and have nothing to do with it.

In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the
different viewpoints of the two groups.  The newcomers accused the
hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers
accused the newcomers of being stupid, unable to read plain English,
and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter.  Of
course, there's an element of truth in both these claims, but for the
most part these viewpoints come from a sense of frustration.

In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration
and help everybody get better results from FreeBSD-questions.  In the
following section, I recommend how to submit a question; after that,
we'll look at how to answer one.

II:  How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions
==============================================

When you subscribed to FreeBSD-questions, you got a welcome message
from Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG.  In this message, amongst other things, it
told you how to unsubscribe.  Here's a typical message:

  Welcome to the freebsd-questions mailing list!

  If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list,
  you can send mail to "Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG" with the following command
  in the body of your email message:

      unsubscribe freebsd-questions Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.de>

  Here's the general information for the list you've
  subscribed to, in case you don't already have it:

  FREEBSD-QUESTIONS               User questions
  This is the mailing list for questions about FreeBSD.  You should not
  send "how to" questions to the technical lists unless you consider the
  question to be pretty technical.

Normally, unsubscribing is even simpler than the message suggests: you
don't need to specify your mail ID unless it is different from the one
which you specified when you subscribed.

If Majordomo replies and tells you (incorrectly) that you're not on
the list, this may mean one of two things:

  1.  You have changed your mail ID since you subscribed.  That's where
      keeping the original message from majordomo comes in handy.  For
      example, the sample message above shows my mail ID as
      grog@lemis.de.  Since then, I have changed it to
      grog@lemis.com.  If I were to try to remove grog@lemis.com from
      the list, it would fail: I would have to specify the name with
      which I joined.

  2.  You're subscribed to a mailing list which is subscribed to
      FreeBSD-questions.  If that's the case, you'll have to figure out
      which one it is and get your name taken off that one.  If you're
      not sure which one it might be, check the headers of the
      messages you receive from freebsd-questions: maybe there's a
      clue there.

If you've done all this, and you still can't figure out what's going
on, send a message to Postmaster@FreeBSD.org, and he will sort things
out for you.  Don't send a message to FreeBSD-questions: they can't
help you.

III: Should I ask -questions, -newbies or -hackers?
===================================================

Two mailing lists handle general questions about FreeBSD,
FreeBSD-questions and FreeBSD-hackers.  In addition, the
FreeBSD-newbies list caters specifically for people who are new to
FreeBSD and may be having trouble getting used to the environment.  In
some cases, it's not really clear which group you should ask.  The
following criteria should help for 99% of all questions, however:

     If the question is of a general nature, first check whether this
     isn't a Frequently Asked Question (FAQ).  There's a list of these
     questions at
     http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/index.html,
     and also on your own system (once you've installed it) at
     /usr/share/doc/en/books/faq/index.html.  Check there, and if you
     don't find an answer, ask FreeBSD-questions.  Examples might be
     questions about installing FreeBSD or the use of a particular
     UNIX utility.

     If you think the question relates to a bug, but you're not sure,
     or you don't know how to look for it, send the message to
     FreeBSD-questions.

     If the question relates to a bug, and you're almost sure that
     it's a bug (for example, you can pinpoint the place in the code
     where it happens, and you maybe have a fix), then send the
     message to FreeBSD-hackers.  You should also enter a problem
     report with the send-pr utility.

     If the question relates to enhancements to FreeBSD, and you can
     make suggestions about how to implement them, then send the
     message to FreeBSD-hackers.

     If the question is of particularly technical nature, such as
     implementation details or suggestions for improvements, then send
     the message to FreeBSD-hackers.

     If you're new to FreeBSD, and the message is about your own
     relationship to FreeBSD, send the message to FreeBSD-newbies.

There are also a number of other specialized mailing lists, for
example FreeBSD-isp, which caters to the interests of ISPs (Internet
Service Providers) who run FreeBSD.  If you happen to be an ISP, this
doesn't mean you should automatically send your questions to
FreeBSD-isp.  The criteria above still apply, and it's in your
interest to stick to them, since you're more likely to get good
results that way.

IV:  How to submit a question
=============================

When submitting a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider the
following points:

  1.  Remember that nobody gets paid for answering a FreeBSD question.
      They do it of their own free will.  You can influence this free
      will positively by submitting a well-formulated question
      supplying as much relevant information as possible.  You can
      influence this free will negatively by submitting an incomplete,
      illegible, or rude question.  It's perfectly possible to send a
      message to FreeBSD-questions and not get an answer even if you
      follow these rules.  It's much more possible to not get an
      answer if you don't.  In the rest of this document, we'll look
      at how to get the most out of your question to
      FreeBSD-questions.

  2.  Not everybody who answers FreeBSD questions reads every message:
      they look at the subject line and decide whether it interests
      them.  Clearly, it's in your interest to specify a subject.
      ``FreeBSD problem'' or ``Help'' aren't enough.  If you provide
      no subject at all, many people won't bother reading it.  If your
      subject isn't specific enough, the people who can answer it may
      not read it.

  3.  When sending a new message, well, send a new message.  Don't
      reply to some other message, erase the old content and change
      the subject line.  That leaves an In-reply-to: header which many
      mail readers use to thread messages, so your message shows up as
      a reply to some other message.  People often delete messages a
      whole thread at a time, so apart from irritating people, you
      also run a chance of having the message deleted unread.

  4.  Format your message so that it is legible, and PLEASE DON'T
      SHOUT!!!!!.  We appreciate that a lot of people don't speak
      English as their first language, and we try to make allowances
      for that, but it's really painful to try to read a message
      written full of typos or without any line breaks.  A lot of
      badly formatted messages come from bad mailers or badly
      configured mailers.  The following mailers are known to send out
      badly formatted messages without you finding out about them:

      Eudora
      exmh
      Microsoft Exchange
      Microsoft Internet Mail
      Microsoft Outlook
      Netscape

      As you can see, the mailers in the Microsoft world are frequent
      offenders.  If at all possible, use a UNIX mailer.  If you must
      use a mailer under Microsoft environments, make sure it is set
      up correctly.  Try not to use MIME: a lot of people use mailers
      which don't get on very well with MIME.

      For further information on this subject, check out
      http://www.lemis.com/email.html.

  5.  Make sure your time and time zone are set correctly.  This may
      seem a little silly, since your message still gets there, but
      many of the people you are trying to reach get several hundred
      messages a day.  They frequently sort the incoming messages by
      subject and by date, and if your message doesn't come before the
      first answer, they may assume they missed it and not bother to
      look.

  6.  Don't include unrelated questions in the same message.  Firstly,
      a long message tends to scare people off, and secondly, it's
      more difficult to get all the people who can answer all the
      questions to read the message.

  7.  Specify as much information as possible.  This is a difficult
      area, and we need to expand on what information you need to
      submit, but here's a start:

         If you get error messages, don't say ``I get error
         messages'', say (for example) ``I get the error message 'No
         route to host'''.

         If your system panics, don't say ``My system panicked'', say
         (for example) ``my system panicked with the message 'free
         vnode isn't'''.

         If you have difficulty installing FreeBSD, please tell us
         what hardware you have.  In particular, it's important to
         know the IRQs and I/O addresses of the boards installed in
         your machine.

         If you have difficulty getting PPP to run, describe the
         configuration.  Which version of PPP do you use? What kind of
         authentication do you have? Do you have a static or dynamic
         IP address? What kind of messages do you get in the log file?

  8.  If you don't get an answer immediately, or if you don't even see
      your own message appear on the list immediately, don't resend
      the message.  Wait at least 24 hours.  The FreeBSD mailer
      offloads messages to a number of subordinate mailers around the
      world, and sometimes it can take several hours for the mail to
      get through.  And once it gets through, the one person who might
      know the answer will probably just have gone to bed in his part
      of the world.

  9.  If you do all this, and you still don't get an answer, there
      could be other reasons.  For example, the problem is so
      complicated that nobody knows the answer, or the person who does
      know the answer was offline.  If you don't get an answer after,
      say, a week, it might help to re-send the message.  If you don't
      get an answer to your second message, though, you're probably
      not going to get one from this forum.  Resending the same
      message again and again will only make you unpopular.

To summarize, let's assume you know the answer to the following
question (yes, it's the same one in each case :-).  You choose which of
these two questions you would be more prepared to answer:


Message 1:
Subject: (none)

I just can't get hits damn silly FereBSD system to workd, and Im really good at this tsuff, but I have never seen anythign sho difficult to install, it jst wont work whatever I try so why don't y9ou guys tell me what I doing wrong.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Message 2:
Subject: Problems installing FreeBSD

I've just got the FreeBSD 2.1.5 CD-ROM from Walnut Creek, and I'm
having a lot of difficulty installing it.  I have a 66 MHz 486 with 16
MB of memory and an Adaptec 1540A SCSI board, a 1.2GB Quantum Fireball
disk and a Toshiba 3501XA CD-ROM drive.  The installation works just
fine, but when I try to reboot the system, I get the message "Missing
Operating System".

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V: How to follow up to a question
=================================

Often you will want to send in additional information to a question
you have already sent.  The best way to do this is to reply to your
original message.  This has three advantages:

1.  You include the original message text, so people will know what
    you're talking about.  Don't forget to trim unnecessary text out,
    though.

2.  The text in the subject line stays the same (you did remember to
    put one in, didn't you?).  Many mailers will sort messages by
    subject.  This helps group messages together.

3.  The message reference numbers in the header will refer to the
    previous message.  Some mailers, such as mutt, can thread messages,
    showing the exact relationships between the messages.

VI: How to answer a question
============================

Before you answer a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider:

1.  A lot of the points on submitting questions also apply to
    answering questions.  Read them.

2.  Has somebody already answered the question?  The easiest way to
    check this is to sort your incoming mail by subject: then
    (hopefully) you'll see the question followed by any answers, all
    together.

    If somebody has already answered it, it doesn't automatically mean
    that you shouldn't send another answer.  But it makes sense to
    read all the other answers first.

3.  Do you have something to contribute beyond what has already been
    said?  In general, "Yeah, me too" answers don't help much,
    although there are exceptions, like when somebody is describing a
    problem he's having, and he doesn't know whether it's his fault or
    whether there's something wrong with the hardware or software.  If
    you do send a "me too" answer, you should also include any further
    relevant information.

4.  Are you sure you understand the question? Very frequently, the
    person who asks the question is confused or doesn't express
    himself very well.  Even with the best understanding of the system,
    it's easy to send a reply which doesn't answer the question.  This
    doesn't help: you'll leave the person who submitted the question
    more frustrated or confused than ever.  If nobody else answers, and
    you're not too sure either, you can always ask for more
    information.

5.  Are you sure your answer is correct?  If not, wait a day or so.
    If nobody else comes up with a better answer, you can still reply
    and say, for example, "I don't know if this is correct, but since
    nobody else has replied, why don't you try replacing your ATAPI
    CD-ROM with a frog?".

6.  Unless there's a good reason to do otherwise, reply to the sender
    and to FreeBSD-questions.  Many people on the FreeBSD-questions
    are "lurkers": they learn by reading messages sent and replied to
    by others.  If you take a message which is of general interest off
    the list, you're depriving these people of their information.  Be
    careful with group replies; lots of people send messages with
    hundreds of CCs.  If this is the case, be sure to trim the Cc:
    lines appropriately.

7.  Include relevant text from the original message. Trim it to the
    minimum, but don't overdo it. It should still be possible for
    somebody who didn't read the original message to understand what
    you're talking about.

8.  Use some technique to identify which text came from the original
    message, and which text you add. I personally find that prepending
    ``> '' to the original message works best. Leaving white space
    after the ``> '' and leave empty lines between your text and the
    original text both make the result more readable.

9.  Put your response in the correct place (after the text to which it
    replies). It's very difficult to read a thread of responses where
    each reply comes before the text to which it replies.

10.  Most mailers change the subject line on a reply by prepending a
     text such as ``Re: ''. If your mailer doesn't do it
     automatically, you should do it manually.

11.  If the submitter didn't abide by format conventions (lines too
     long, inappropriate subject line), please fix it.  In the case of
     an incorrect subject line (such as ``HELP!!??''), change the
     subject line to (say) ``Re: Difficulties with sync PPP (was:
     HELP!!??)''. That way other people trying to follow the thread
     will have less difficulty following it.

     In such cases, it's appropriate to say what you did and why you
     did it, but try not to be rude.  If you find you can't answer
     without being rude, don't answer.

     If you just want to reply to a message because of its bad format,
     just reply to the submitter, not to the list.  You can just send
     him this message in reply, if you like.

$Id: Howto-ask-questions,v 1.4 2003/03/09 22:09:31 grog Exp $

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The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page
or any other online documentation.  The result is that most leading edge
computer books are out of date almost before they are printed.  Unfortunately,
The Complete FreeBSD, published by O'Reilly, is no exception.  Inevitably, a
number of bugs and changes have surfaced.

"The Complete FreeBSD" has been through a total of five editions, including its
predecessor "Installing and Running FreeBSD".  Two of these have been reprinted
with corrections.  I maintain a series of errata pages.  Start at
http://www.lemis.com/errata-4.html to find out how to get the errata
information.

Have you found a problem with the book, or maybe something confusing?  Please
let me know: I'm constantly updating it.

Greg

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"Aeden" <chetcuti45@onvol.net> writes:

> How can i connect two windows machine togehter using freebsd and
> securing them with a vpn and even suply them with internet. i have a
> pentium 3 pc running freebsd 4.x and it has 5 pci ehternet cards one
> for internet two for the other machines can you indicate some
> information on this thank you very much!

You're not very clear on what you really want to set up.  It sounds
like you just want the VPN to be controlled by the Windows machines
themselves, but in that case, the FreeBSD machine doesn't need to do
much.  Maybe reading the IPSEC VPN chapter in the FreeBSD Handbook
will help you...

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On Friday 02 January 2004 03:53 pm, Sal Aldana wrote:
> I was wondering which AMD Processors are compatible with FreeBSD. I
> have a Athlon XP 2700 and wanted to know if it would work. I was
> also going to build a Dual Processor machine using Athlon MP
> Processors. If any of these work could you let me know before I
> decide to use FreeBSD. Thank you for your time.
>


Since they really think they are improved 686's, why wouldn't you 
expect them to work :). FWIW, I have 4 XP's running 4-stable and 
5-current but no MP modles.

Kkent

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I am running  FreeBSD 4.3 on an old laptop.

Something (maybe Mozilla) stepped on something. Trying to run netscape-
communicator (with wrapper and remote) results in the following error:

$ /usr/local/bin/netscape
/usr/libexec/ld.so: warning: /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6: minor version -1
older than expected 0, using it anyway
ld.so failed: bad magic number in "/usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6"

I pkg_deleted and pkg_added Netscape, but still the same problem.

ld.so is dated July 28, 2000. It apparently doesn't like the magic number
in
libXt.so.6 dated four days earlier. Netscape on the CDROM is from May 12,
2001.

Is there any way I can fix or replace the libXt.so.6 so that it works with
ld.so and
Netscape runs?

I have a couple of libXt.so.6.0 files in /usr/compat/linux and one in
/usr/X11R6/lib/aout. Might the latter work?

Upgrading 4.3 or using ports are not practical right now.

Any ideas would be welcme.

Thanks,

Ken

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T Kellers wrote:

>On Friday 02 January 2004 06:49 pm, Trey Sizemore wrote:
>  
>
>>Eric F Crist wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>On Friday 02 January 2004 02:06 pm, T Kellers wrote:
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Don't use both device pcm and the .ko modules.  The sound won't work at
>>>>all or, if it does, not properly.  You may not even have any keyboard
>>>>beeps (^G's) if both are loaded.
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>I find I only add the device pcm line to my kernel and everything works
>>>fine. Gnome, KDE, console beeps.  Everything works and I don't usually
>>>worry about the sound servers.  When you install one of the window
>>>managers, as long as you install the multimedia package, the correct
>>>sound server gets installed too.  This has been working for me for about
>>>5 years now.
>>>
>>>HTH
>>>      
>>>
>>Update here...I have removed the entries in /boot/loader.conf and now
>>only have the kernel compiled with my 'device PCM' entry.
>>
>>'dmesg | grep pcm' shows my soundcard entry and cat /dev/sndstat shows
>>it as well.
>>
>>I have rebooted after taking the entries out of loader.conf.
>>
>>When I try something like
>>
>>% play KDE_Beep_Ahem.wav
>>
>>I get:
>>
>>play: /dev/dsp: Operation not supported by device
>>
>>What might be causing this that I could look into?
>>
>>    
>>
>
>%play /usr/local/share/sounds/KDE_Beep_Ahem.wav
>play: /dev/dsp: Operation not supported by device
>
>
>I get that same message after I've shut down the arts server
>
>However
>artsplay /usr/local/share/sounds/KDE_Beep_Ahem.wav
>
>works fine as long as artsd is running
>
>%ps -ax | grep arts
>14333  p0  S      0:01.69 artsd
>14343  p0  R+     0:00.00 grep arts
>
>
>If you have KDE installed, try:
>
>%artsd &
>%artsplay /usr/local/share/sounds/KDE_Beep_Ahem.wav
>
>You should hear Mr Ahem clear his throat right from the command line.
>
>Tim 
>
>
>  
>
Tried that and I get the following:

Can't connect to sound server

:-(

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Lowell Gilbert wrote:

>Trey Sizemore <trey@fastmail.fm> writes:
>
>  
>
>>I am running 5.2-CURRENT on my PII-400 desktop.  I have done 3
>>installs of FreeBSD each time cvsupping to 5.2 current (using ISOs for
>>5.1 and 5.2) to do the initial install.
>>
>>EVERY time I get the following problem.  When I try to logout, reboot,
>>or shutdown the machine from X, the machine locks up (no mouse or
>>keyboard response) and I have to do a cold reboot.  I am presented
>>with the black text screen seen during bootup right before it launches
>>X (sorry, don't know what to call it) with my
>>
>>login:
>>
>>prompt (again, no response from keyboard or mouse input...it's like X
>>shuts down entirely and then the machine locks trying to go to the
>>next step).  This happens whether I use xdm, kdm, or gdm.  I have seen
>>other posts with some similar symptoms refer to ACPI and disabling
>>this (I can't find the entry in my BIOS to turn this off).  It's an
>>old Asus P2B motherboard.  I'm not even sure it's the problem, but I'm
>>willing to look at anything!
>>    
>>
>
>5.1 has an errata entry describing how to disable the ACPI code in
>that release:  there's a new and supposedly easy way of doing this in
>5.2, but I haven't seen it yet (I'm still on 4.x myself).
>
>  
>
>>I really want to use FreeBSD, but having to do constant cold restarts
>>when I shutdown or try to switch users is going to get old fast (not
>>to mention the eventual damage to my files...even though I've got soft
>>updates enabled;) )
>>
>>I will provide any additional input I can, I realize it's not much to
>>go on now, but hopefully those more knowledgeable than me can guide me
>>to some things to look at to figure out why this is happening.
>>    
>>
>
>Does this happen with the release versions?
>Does it happen if you don't enable X at all?  [In other words, is this
>  an OS problem or an X11 problem...]
>How did you install X, and what does your X configuration look like?
>
>  
>
I disabled ACPI loading at bootup and all seems well now.  Not sure what 
the problem with this is, maybe hardware issues.

But it appears to be working OK.

Thanks for the feedback.

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Here are the 4.9 hardware specs:
http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.9R/hardware-i386.html

Here are the 5.1 specs: 
http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.1R/hardware-i386.html


--- Sal Aldana <maverik187@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I was wondering which AMD Processors are compatible
> with FreeBSD. I have a 
> Athlon XP 2700 and wanted to know if it would work.
> I was also going to 
> build a Dual Processor machine using Athlon MP
> Processors. If any of these 
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> FreeBSD. Thank you for 
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David Bear asked on Wednesday Dec 31, 2003:


> the NIC selection at the local store was terrible. I ended up buying a
> netgear FA311.  I cannot tell what chipset this has..  It is the
> numbers VS318AG in it..
>
> anyone used a netgear nic with fbsd 4.9?
>


I've got 3 of these in one box and 1 in another. There were some
problems when using 3 cards, probably IRQ related. But the single card
has worked fine.

They use the sis(4) driver, but you should see this when you boot from
the install CD.

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My 2600+ overclocked doesn't complain on the 5.2 (worked also with 
4.9).... Don't worry I don't use it a production server ;)

For the kernel configuration you can even optimize the compilation for 
such processors (5.x only) :

options CPU_ATHLON_SSE_HACK
options CPU_ENABLE_SSE

and also a special cpu type in the make.conf

/CPUTYPE?=athlon-xp/


I would think that the second one (CPUTYPE) is more critical than the 
first set of options (more multimedia oriented).

Dany



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>Here are the 4.9 hardware specs:
>http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.9R/hardware-i386.html
>
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>
>
>--- Sal Aldana <maverik187@hotmail.com> wrote:
>  
>
>>I was wondering which AMD Processors are compatible
>>with FreeBSD. I have a 
>>Athlon XP 2700 and wanted to know if it would work.
>>I was also going to 
>>build a Dual Processor machine using Athlon MP
>>Processors. If any of these 
>>work could you let me know before I decide to use
>>FreeBSD. Thank you for 
>>your time.
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> For the kernel configuration you can even optimize the compilation for 
> such processors (5.x only) :
> 
> options CPU_ATHLON_SSE_HACK
> options CPU_ENABLE_SSE

These are also valid kernel options for 4.x.

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On Jan 1, 2004, at 9:33 AM, Peter Ulrich Kruppa wrote:

> I have got the same problem, only the other way round:
> Last week I managed to get my standalone print server with samba
> and cups working, but I can't exactly tell how I did it, so you
> can help me there  :-)
> This is my smb.conf
>

Hey, thanks. I was having this same problem and your smb.conf helped me 
out.

I added these two lines to the stanza for the printer itself:

    guest ok = yes
    use client driver = yes

And that seemed to make my "access denied" error go away.


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Hello List,

I am having some difficulty in getting my xl0 and xl1 3com cards to work
the way I'd like.  I'm running 5.1 Release and I'm basically trying to
have one interface with no IP address(specifying it as such in
/etc/rc.conf as ifconfig_xl1="up")
And I'd like to have the other(xl0) to have an IP address of my Internal
Network.  The purpose of this setup is to sniff traffic with the
interface that has no IP address and allow for management and reporting
over the interface that has an IP associated with the Internal network.

For some reason, this is just not working for me at all.  I've tried to
configure via rc.conf and this fails to work.  I've also tried assigning
an RFC 1918 address to the interface I want sniffing as this traffic
should not be routable, but it doesn't seem to work. 

Can anyone make a suggestion?

Scott

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On Friday 02 January 2004 08:32 pm, Trey Sizemore wrote:
> T Kellers wrote:
> >On Friday 02 January 2004 06:49 pm, Trey Sizemore wrote:
> >>Eric F Crist wrote:
> >>>On Friday 02 January 2004 02:06 pm, T Kellers wrote:
> >>>>Don't use both device pcm and the .ko modules.  The sound won't work at
> >>>>all or, if it does, not properly.  You may not even have any keyboard
> >>>>beeps (^G's) if both are loaded.
> >>>
> >>>I find I only add the device pcm line to my kernel and everything works
> >>>fine. Gnome, KDE, console beeps.  Everything works and I don't usually
> >>>worry about the sound servers.  When you install one of the window
> >>>managers, as long as you install the multimedia package, the correct
> >>>sound server gets installed too.  This has been working for me for about
> >>>5 years now.
> >>>
> >>>HTH
> >>
> >>Update here...I have removed the entries in /boot/loader.conf and now
> >>only have the kernel compiled with my 'device PCM' entry.
> >>
> >>'dmesg | grep pcm' shows my soundcard entry and cat /dev/sndstat shows
> >>it as well.
> >>
> >>I have rebooted after taking the entries out of loader.conf.
> >>
> >>When I try something like
> >>
> >>% play KDE_Beep_Ahem.wav
> >>
> >>I get:
> >>
> >>play: /dev/dsp: Operation not supported by device
> >>
> >>What might be causing this that I could look into?
> >
> >%play /usr/local/share/sounds/KDE_Beep_Ahem.wav
> >play: /dev/dsp: Operation not supported by device
> >
> >
> >I get that same message after I've shut down the arts server
> >
> >However
> >artsplay /usr/local/share/sounds/KDE_Beep_Ahem.wav
> >
> >works fine as long as artsd is running
> >
> >%ps -ax | grep arts
> >14333  p0  S      0:01.69 artsd
> >14343  p0  R+     0:00.00 grep arts
> >
> >
> >If you have KDE installed, try:
> >
> >%artsd &
> >%artsplay /usr/local/share/sounds/KDE_Beep_Ahem.wav
> >
> >You should hear Mr Ahem clear his throat right from the command line.
> >
> >Tim
>
> Tried that and I get the following:
>
> Can't connect to sound server

Please try:
ps -ax | grep arts

and see if artsd is running

If you start it manually you need to run artsd & before you type the test file 
entry.

Tim Kellers
CPE/NJIT

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in message <a06002001bc1abef18f33@[10.0.0.10]>,
wrote Mauricio thusly...
>
> daffy# pkg_add libiconv-1.9.1_3.tgz
> pkg_add: package 'libiconv-1.9.1_3' or its older version already
> installed
> daffy#
> 
> Ok then, I force it to be installed (-f option).  All I get in the end
> is *two* entries of libiconv according to pkg_info:
> 
> daffy# pkg_info
> [...]
> libiconv-1.8_2      A character set conversion library
> libiconv-1.9.1_3    A character set conversion library
> 
> Why can't it put the latest version in place of the older one?

Then it would be too easy to keep things simple...


> I even tried to uninstall the old one first:
> 
> daffy# pkg_delete libiconv-1.8_2
> pkg_delete: package 'libiconv-1.8_2' is required by these other packages
> and may not be deinstalled:
> gettext-0.11.5_1

Ah, you forgot to force the deletion unlike addition.

Try this...

 #  Delete both versions.  If doesn't work delete one by one; it has
 #  been a while since i had to deinstall two versions.
 pkg_delete -d -f libiconv

 #  Should work w/ the force.  Force  may be needed if newer versions of
 #  dependent software are missing, but older versions would still work
 #  w/ the port being installed.
 pkg_add -f <path to libiconv>

 #  Readjust the dependencies (provided by portupgrade port)
 pkgdb -F


  - Parv

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vegeta# cd /usr/share/example/cvsup
vegeta# cvsup -g -L2 standard-supfile
vegeta# cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf
vegeta# config VEGETA
vegeta# cd ../compile/VEGETA
vegeta# make depend
vegeta# make
[lots of output snipped]
linking kernel
if_em.o: In function `em_process_receive_interrupts':
if_em.o(.text+0x47f5): undefined reference to `vlan_tag_alloc'
*** Error code 1

Note: the following Kernel Config file has worked for quite some time.
Also a yahoo/google and google group search returns 0 (ZERO) results on 
this.
That may be a first.

Thanks in advance

Philip

P.S.
  Please CC me so I'm sure to see the response.


Kernel Config for VEGETA:
###############################################################################
################################## Architecture 
###############################
###############################################################################
machine         i386
maxusers        256
cpu             I686_CPU                # aka Pentium Pro(tm)
ident           PHILIP

#options         MATH_EMULATE            #Support for x87 emulation

device          npx

###############################################################################
################################# Compatibility 
###############################
###############################################################################
options         COMPAT_43
options         COMPAT_FREEBSD4
options         SCHED_4BSD

###############################################################################
################################# Networking 
##################################
###############################################################################
options         INET                    #Internet communications protocols
options         IPSEC                   #IP security
options         IPSEC_ESP               #IP security (crypto; define w/ IP

device          ether                   #Generic Ethernet
device          loop                    #Network loopback device

device          miibus
device          fxp
device          em       ###### ********** ERROR IS RELATED TO THUIS 
#############

###############################################################################
########################## Firewalls 
##########################################
###############################################################################
options         IPFIREWALL              #firewall
options         IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE      #enable logging to syslogd(8)
options         IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100    #limit verbosity

options         IPDIVERT                #divert sockets
options         IPFILTER                #ipfilter support
options         IPFILTER_LOG            #ipfilter logging
options         PFIL_HOOKS

options         IPSTEALTH               #support for stealth forwarding
options         TCP_DROP_SYNFIN         #drop TCP packets with SYN+FIN

###############################################################################
################################# FileSystems 
#################################
###############################################################################
options         FFS                     #Memory File System
options         CD9660                  #ISO 9660 filesystem
options         PSEUDOFS
options         PROCFS                  #Process filesystem

options         SOFTUPDATES
options         UFS_DIRHASH
options         QUOTA                   #enable disk quotas

###############################################################################
############################## ATA Devices 
####################################
###############################################################################
device          isa
device          pci

device          ata
device          atadisk
device          ataraid         # RAID
device          atapicd         # ATAPI CDROM drives
device          atapifd         # ATAPI floppy drives
options         ATA_STATIC_ID

###############################################################################
############################### Misc Devices 
##################################
###############################################################################
device          pty             #Pseudo ttys
device          speaker         #Play IBM BASIC-style noises out your 
speaker
device          md              #Memory/malloc disk
device          snp             #Snoop device - to look at pty/vty/etc..

device          atkbdc
device          atkbd
device          psm
device          vga
device          agp
device          random

###############################################################################
################################## Terminal Options 
###########################
###############################################################################
device          sc
options         MAXCONS=16              # number of virtual consoles

options         SYSVSHM                 #SYSV-style shared memory
options         SYSVMSG                 #SYSV-style message queues
options         SYSVSEM                 #SYSV-style semaphores

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in message <20040103044234.GB397@moo.holy.cow>,
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>  #  Should work w/ the force
...
>  pkg_add -f <path to libiconv>

I meant to write "should work withOUT the force [option]".


  - Parv

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On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 03:47, Eric F Crist wrote:
> On Thursday 01 January 2004 11:46 pm, Malcolm Kay wrote:
[snip]
[not Malcolm Kay]
> > > > $ df -h
> > > > Filesystem    Size   Used  Avail Capacity  Mounted on
> > > > /dev/ad0s3a  1008M    92M   835M    10%    /
> > > > /dev/ad0s2   1020M    19M  1001M     2%    /dos
> > > > /dev/ad0s3g   4.8G    69M   4.3G     2%    /home
> > > > /dev/ad0s3e   3.9G   3.9G -260.5M   107%    /usr
> > > > /dev/ad0s3f  1008M    27M   900M     3%    /var
> > > > /dev/ad0s1     24G    22G   2.9G    88%    /nt
> > > > procfs        4.0K   4.0K     0B   100%    /proc
> > > > /dev/da0s1     61M    61M   632K    99%    /umass
[snip]
[not Malcolm Kay]
> > > The two partitions appear to be adjacent.  If they are, Partition M=
agic
> > > (or similar) could merge those two partitions non-destructively, an=
d
> > > your problem would be solved.
> >
[The next is Malcolm Kay]
> > This sounds like a disaster --- partition magic works with MS
> > partitions or in FBSD terms slices -- to the best I my knowledge it d=
oes
> > not know about BSD style partitions.
>
[The next is Eric F Crist]
> Partition Magic can recognize a type 165 (freebsd) partition, but it do=
es
> not support merging/resizing of these.  It does support the linux parti=
tion
> scheme, however.

Please read my words carefully:
Yes, Partition Magic recognises partitions in the MS partitioning scheme,
known as slices in FreeBSD, including those labeled as BSD (type 165).
These have device names (under FBSD) of the form ad0s1, ad0s2, ads0s3 etc=
=2E

However, I do not believe it knows anything of BSD partitions which=20
subdivide such a slice. These have device name of the form ad0s3a, ad0s3b=
,
ad0s3e etc.

Native Linux uses only slices (MS style partitioning). It knows something=
 of=20
BSD partitioning in order to mount (foreign) BSD file systems.

Malcolm Kay

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Hi,

I am curious if the problem persists if you put the 
following in your device.hints using the default kernel.

hint.acpi.0.disabled="1"


Lucio

On  0, Martin Brecher <listuser@mb-itconsulting.com> wrote:
:Jaroslaw Nozderko wrote:
:[...]
:>>Yes, see my post from earlier today called "Can't shutdown, logout,
:>>or restart cleanly."
:[...]
:>thanks, I've read it - I have Asus P3B-F motherboard :))
:>But seriously, I'm not sure it's hardware-related - I don't remember
:>a single occurence of this problem in 5.1 and 5.0. It seems to have 
:>something to do with 5.2.
:[...]
:
:I agree: I experienced X11 freezes on 5.2 with both a nvidia card as
:well as a card using the i740 chipset. The nv freezed the computer as
:soon as I started X, the i740 happend to freeze it when I killed the X
:server
:Also, I saw two similar reports on the -current list.
:
:However, I managed to work around these freezes by removing the two
:SMP-related lines from my kernel configuration:
:
:options         SMP  # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel
:device          apic # I/O APIC
:
:
:Additionally, I am sure ACPI does not have anything to do with this --
:at least on this box.
:
:HTH
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On Fri, Jan 02, 2004 at 03:53:30PM -0800, Sal Aldana wrote:
> I was wondering which AMD Processors are compatible with FreeBSD. I have a 
> Athlon XP 2700 and wanted to know if it would work. I was also going to 
> build a Dual Processor machine using Athlon MP Processors. If any of these 
> work could you let me know before I decide to use FreeBSD. Thank you for 
> your time.
> 

Both of those CPUs work fine in FreeBSD.

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Hi Everybody , 

I want to learn two things ?! 
First,Does bandwith limiting affect high loaded MailServers and Web
Servers?! Because I know if I set bandwith limit I have to set queue at this
moment some queue delay can be occur ?! 

I think that mail server can handle it because SMTP will work under slow
link. Does this limitation suitable for Web Server ( http protocol ) ?!! 

Any advise ?_

Vahric 

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Hi Everybody=20

I red tunning man and some documents on the Internet . I have same =
question
to undertanding better=20


1)in tuning man siad that " Setting vfs.vmiodirenable improve the =
performans
of sevices that manipulating a large number of file like Web Cache,large
Mail System and News System "=20

But I don't agree with it for mail system, or What type of mail systems =
can
imporved with this settings ... For example we are using only POP3 at =
this
moment users are connecting their mailbox and download mail .... I think
that at this moment Caching Directory or Files not important ?! Does it
usable with IMAP for example-or-How store mails on Mail Server?Am I =
wrong ?!



2)Can I set Kern.maxfilesperproc=3D0 because I don't want to seperate
maxfilesize for seperate process ?! I mean I don't want to limit it for =
any
process ?!=20

3)I think setting kern.pc.somaxconn is not necessary because all =
programs
can handle their self listen queue size like Apache and Mail Programs .=20

One sentence disturb me in tunning man, "Larger listen queue also do a
better job of fending off denial service attack"=20

I can't imagine How ?! What difference between large or short listen =
queue
for attacker ?!=20


4)What is net.local.stream I don't find any explanation in tunning man.=20


Thanks again everyody=20
Vahri=E7=20


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Hi all,

I've had some trouble with booting from the 5.2 ISO I downloaded. Some
background (long-winded, but bear with me):

I downloaded 5.2RC2 disk1 and 5.2RC2 disk2 with Firebird on Red Hat 9. 
All
seemed well. I scp'd those files to my Mac (Panther) and created dmg's 
and
burned them to a CD. All looked well. I then tried to boot from the CD 
but
it didn't work. I made sure all BIOS settings were set to boot from CD
first. I tested with a WinXP install CD and it could boot from cd. I 
tried
the FreeBSD cd on another machine and it failed as well (windows 
worked).

Assuming I had messed up the burning I tried burning on windows with 
Nero.
All looked well, but same result. Finally, I downloaded the mini-5.2RC2
iso thingy with IE on WinXP and burned it with nero and voila I could 
boot
off the cd rom. I then downloaded 4.9 on my Mac and created
a working bootable disk from the ISO with no problem.

So, my question is: did downloading the 5.2RC2 ISO on Linux mess it up
(ascii vs binary maybe - would that give the behavior I described? I 
think i read that somewhere). Maybe
the scp killed it? Is 4.9 different than 5.2? (i read something 
somewhere
about emulated el torito vs real el toritos, or something like that, 
which I don't understand).

Any insight would be greatly appreciated ...I'm good to go with 4.9 but 
still curious how I messed the 5.2 download up!

thanks,

august

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On Sat, Jan 03, 2004 at 08:54:54PM +1100, August Simonelli wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I've had some trouble with booting from the 5.2 ISO I downloaded. Some
> background (long-winded, but bear with me):
> 
> I downloaded 5.2RC2 disk1 and 5.2RC2 disk2 with Firebird on Red Hat 9. 
> All
> seemed well. I scp'd those files to my Mac (Panther) and created dmg's 
> and
> burned them to a CD. All looked well. I then tried to boot from the CD 
> but
> it didn't work. I made sure all BIOS settings were set to boot from CD
> first. I tested with a WinXP install CD and it could boot from cd. I 
> tried
> the FreeBSD cd on another machine and it failed as well (windows 
> worked).


According to this link, converting an iso to dmg seems to disable
booting off CD. So you may want to burn the iso straight.

http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/debian-user-200301/msg05920.html

hth
Gautam

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On Fri, Jan 02, 2004 at 09:26:59AM -0800, Eric Rescorla wrote:
> I'm finally getting to the point where my disk capacity massively
> outruns my tape capacity, so I'm thinking of converting to removable
> disk-only backup. I could just use Amanda to backup to disk, but I'm
> intrigued by Plan 9's archival filesystem where backups from (say Jan 1,
> 1999) would go in /1999/1/1 and you could just find the files directly
> rather than grovelling through dump files. 
> 
> Is there some standard tool for doing this on FreeBSD?  You can't just
> do a direct copy cause this results in major disk space wastage so I'm
> imagining you need to use hard links or something to keep the size down.

Check out rsync and the "--link-dest=DIR" option.  This will hardlink
unchanged files to the previous copy in the link-dest directory, rather
than copying the data again.

	Scott

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On Fri, Jan 02, 2004 at 02:55:47PM -0600, Dan Nelson wrote:
> In the last episode (Jan 02), Toomas Aas said:
> > However, when I umount /backup and remove the drive, the da0 device
> > somehow remains active (can be seen with 'camcontrol devlist'). When
> > I then plug in the second drive, it becomes da1, which spoils all my
> > beautiful backup plans. I would prefer that when I remove one drive
> > and plug in the other, it becomes da0 again. So I need to get the
> > 'old' da0 entry to go away when unplugging the drive. How can I do
> > that?
> > 
> > I tried 'camcontrol rescan 0:0:0' after disconnecting the drive, but
> > it just hangs until I plug the drive back in. I tried 'camcontrol
> > reset 0', but this returned error 0x6 (IIRC).
> 
> Try just "camcontrol rescan 0" to rescan the entire FW bus.  I don't
> know if scanning just a single LUN will allow the whole device to
> disappear.  I think it was more intended for SCSI/FC RAIDs, so you
> could add/remove/resize volumes.  Just guessing here, though.

You probably also want to do 'fwcontrol -r' a few times after unplugging
the drive (three seems to work for me...)  See sbp(4) for reasons why this
is necessary.

Also note the warning about tagged queueing on that page - hopefully you
lucked out and your drives are OK with this; I had serious file corruption
issues until I turned off tagged queueing.  You might want to verify that
the data on the backup is really what it should be :-(

	Scott

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On Fri, Jan 02, 2004 at 07:03:58PM -0800, Mike Maltese wrote:
> > For the kernel configuration you can even optimize the compilation for 
> > such processors (5.x only) :
> > 
> > options CPU_ATHLON_SSE_HACK
> > options CPU_ENABLE_SSE
> 
> These are also valid kernel options for 4.x.

Where are these documented?
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Eric F Crist <ecrist@adtechintegrated.com> writes:

> On Friday 02 January 2004 02:06 pm, Dru wrote:
>> Is anyone aware of a tutorial/documentation available for creating a
>> hardware profile? I'm thinking of something that allows the user to
>> choose to either configure a wireless or a wired NIC during bootup. I
>> could script it after bootup, but I'd prefer to do it during loader.
>>
> FWIW, I have a wired NIC and a wifi NIC.  The wifi doesn't attempt to do DHCP 
> unless it's plugged in.  The wired NIC is integrated, so it always tries to 
> look and if there's a connection, it works, if not, obviously no.  If you're 
> using PCMCIA wifi/wired NICs this is pretty trivial to accomplish.  It's 
> simply the lines:
>
> pccard_enable="YES"
> pccard_ifconfig="DHCP"
>
> Put these in your rc.conf file.  For more options see man rc.conf.

You might also find the nicmond port useful. It will attempt to bring the
wired interface up only when it detects a live network. This also means it
will auto-connect as soon as you plug a running laptop to the
network. That's more intuitive in my opinion but certainly different than
what you asked for.

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Hi!

To clarify up a bit:

Netgear manufactured the FA310, which had 4 revisions.

the first two, IIRC, hat genuine digital chips on it, the last two
revisions hat digital-clones on it, therefore the handling by the dc(4)
driver.

the Netgear Fa311 has a different chipset on it, that is driven by the
sis(4) driver.

BTW: the sis ist supported since 4.1.1-R


HTH
Olaf

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On Thu, 2004-01-01 at 22:43, Philip M. Gollucci wrote:
> vegeta# cd /usr/share/example/cvsup
> vegeta# cvsup -g -L2 standard-supfile
> vegeta# cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf
> vegeta# config VEGETA
> vegeta# cd ../compile/VEGETA
> vegeta# make depend
> vegeta# make

I would recommend trying the "official" way of building the source
first. What did you CVSUP to? Current? Try doing the following build
order:

cd /usr/src
edit your config (sys/i386/conf/VEGETA)
make buildworld
make buildkernel
make installkernel
reboot in single user
make installworld
mergemaster
reboot



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Olivier Gautherot <ogautherot@freesurf.fr>(by way of Olivier Gautherot\ <ogautherot@freesurf.fr>) writes:

> I'm facing a funny situation that I don't really understand... I'm currently
> running 5.1 (I thought it was -STABLE but the CDROM says -RELEASE, so I'm not
> completely sure as I have had it for some time). It installed painlessly.

You seem to be confused about what a release is, or what a code branch
is.  There are some entries in the FAQ that might help explain this...

> As I was reorganizing my hard disk, I thought I would upgrade to 5.2 but, for
> some reason, it won't install. The CDROM image seems to have been written
> fine, it boots properly, I can edit and select the various options, I can
> repartition the disk (basically to erase the partition contents), the base
> system loads fine ... until it tries to load the PERL package, where it
> fails. As a number of packages depend on PERL, they won't install either.
> This happens with both 5.2-RC1 and 5.2-RC2 (I remember seeing the same on the
> latest 5.1-RELEASE too).

Why not just install without perl or the dependent packages, then add
them afterwards?  

To actually have a chance of fixing the problem, we'd need to know
more details of what happens when "it fails."

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getting the following message occasionally.....unable to figure it out as
yet.....any help would be appreciated.....thanks

12-16-2003
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: hBU6NEbK027111: SYSERR(root): rewrite: excessive recursion (max 50),
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Hmm. I created a disklabel as such:

8 partitions:
#        size   offset    fstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
   a:  1048576        0    4.2BSD     2048 16384     8
   b:  1572864  1048576      swap
   c: 80418240        0    unused        0     0
   d: 30720000  2621440    4.2BSD     2048 16384 28552
   e:  8388608 33341440    4.2BSD     2048 16384 28552
   f:  8388608 41730048    4.2BSD     2048 16384 28552
   g: 20480000 50118656    4.2BSD     2048 16384 28552
   h:  9819584 70598656    4.2BSD

..I checked and partition 'h' does not exceed the value of 'c'.


when I go to "newfs -N" I see this:

# newfs -N /dev/ad2s1h
/dev/ad2s1h: 4794.7MB (9819584 sectors) block size 16384, fragment size 2048
         using 27 cylinder groups of 183.77MB, 11761 blks, 23552 inodes.
super-block backups (for fsck -b #) at:
  160, 376512, 752864, 1129216, 1505568, 1881920, 2258272, 2634624, 
3010976, 3387328, 3763680, 4140032, 4516384, 4892736, 5269088,
  5645440, 6021792, 6398144, 6774496, 7150848, 7527200, 7903552, 8279904, 
8656256, 9032608, 9408960, 9785312


However when I actually run newfs:

# newfs /dev/ad2s1h
newfs: wtfs: 512 bytes at sector 9819583: Input/output error


...I think this is the trouble i had under 4.9, but there I was able to 
fiddle with the size until it formatted fine with no cylinder issues.

I am at a loss to trouble shoot this since it 'looks' like it will format, 
but then refuses to. The rest of the drive slices formatted 100% perfect.

What am I missing?

Please help? - Thanks :)




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On Sat, Jan 03, 2004 at 10:21:27AM -0500, Dennis M. Yocum wrote:

> : hBU6NEbK027111: SYSERR(root): rewrite: excessive recursion (max 50),
> ruleset canonify

You've got a mail-loop.  One part of the message processing is
changing the address in one way, then another part is changing it back
again and re-submitting it to the first part.

Sendmail detects that it's been round that loop too many times and
bails out.

Now, exactly what it is that is causing the loop in this case we can't
say, as you don't provide enough information.  Check in your
/var/spool/mqueue for mail files with the same job number as given in
the log -- ie. the first character (h) may be different but the rest
(BU6NEbK027111) should appear in the file name.  Inspect these files
and see if you can deduce what the common factor is that is causing
the loop.  The sort of things to check for are (i) mail forwarding via
=2Eforward files, aliases or virtusertable (ii) host name resolution via
DNS, /etc/hosts, NIS, LDAP or other mechanisms, plus effects due to
the use of mailertable to modify the default delivery location.

There's also the possibility of (iii) mail looping between several
machines -- machine A gives the message to machine B to deal with,
then machine B sends it back to machine A, but this generates a
different error message about "too many hops".

	Cheers,

	Matthew

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Frederick Thomas writes:

> I'm trying to get some help installing the tarball in the subject line
> because I do not have an internet connection at home, and every time I
> have tried to build a binary from source I've have been unable to
> because of some missing dependencies. I'm new to asking for help but I
> would like some guidance simply to be able to start developing my own
> apps and to be able to help some other poor slub who doesn't have a
> clue. So, I have freebsd 4.8 with linux compat enabled and I can't get
> the package to configure because it needs " autoconf". So if anyone
> has an answer for me it would be a blessing. Happy New Year!

You need to install the dependencies in order to install the pieces
that depend on them.  That's the whole point of calling them
"dependencies".  

If you're installing via ports, get all of the dependencies' files
before starting; there are "fetch-recursive" and
"fetch-recursive-list" makefile targets to help with this.

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> > > options CPU_ATHLON_SSE_HACK
> > > options CPU_ENABLE_SSE
> > 
> > These are also valid kernel options for 4.x.
> 
> Where are these documented?

/usr/src/sys/i386/conf/LINT

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IzyData Software Company <Eugene.Rozum@izydata.com> writes:

>  We are IzyData Software Developping company from Switzerland. And
>  now, we are going to dedicated server. For our OS we choose FreeBSD
>  4.9. And one problem appeared. We can't make working sata raid disks which are
>  on mirroring, we simply do not see it in a system.
> 
>  Is this feature availible in 4.9 ?
> 
>  We have following hardware:
> 
>  CPU: P4 2.9
>  Motherboard: ASUS P4800-DELUX.
>  RAM: 2GB
>  HDD: 1 - 40GB SATA (working).
>  HDD: 2x240 WD Sata mirrow (not working).
> 
>  Could you please help us. And alse please tell if there a reason to
>  install 5.1, which supports sata raid, as we heard.

That sounds like a good reason to me...

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I have a Pentium 4 1.8 Ghz on an ASUS P4S533 motherboard.  FreeBSD
5.1 fails to install - it just hangs while probing for devices, and I 
left it for
many minutes.  There is no ZIP or JAZZ drive; just an IDE disk and
an LG CD-RW drive.

This machine installs and runs FreeBSD 4.7 with no problems, and the CD
for 5.1 has been used successfully on other machines.  Any clues, please?

Please cc me.

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Hello,

I am having trouble trying to start the gnumail -port, which I compiled
from a port-tree from 2 week past. I was wondering if I could get help
from here. I am running FreeBSD-5.1-release/i386.
The program starts with a dialog box which has two buttons, but there
isn't any text in them. In the titlebar there reads: critical.
In xterm, from where I start the program, I get:

2004-01-03 18:11:37.989
GNUMail[78702] No font
cache available - building new one - this may take several seconds (or
minutes on a slow machine with lots of fonts)
2004-01-03 18:11:37.990 GNUMail[78702] Running
/usr/local/GNUstep/System/Tools/font_cacher

and loads of:

2004-01-03 18:14:36.668 GNUMail[78702] XGFont: selected font: Fixed at
12.000000 ((nil)) is not available.
2004-01-03 18:14:36.668 GNUMail[78702] DPS (xgps): no font set
/usr/local/GNUstep/Local/Applications/GNUMail.app/GNUMail: Uncaught
exception NSInvalidArgumentException, reason: Tried to add nil value to
dictionary

and when I try to run 'font_cacher', I get:

X Error of failed request:  BadValue (integer parameter out of range for
operation)
  Major opcode of failed request:  45 (X_OpenFont)
  Value in failed request:  0x2a015f6
  Serial number of failed request:  23054
  Current serial number in output stream:  23055

from here on, I do not know how to proceed. Help appreciated.

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Hello!

I'm using FreeBSD 4.9 and I want to set up an internet link using pppoe and
dial on demand. On principle it works, but I've a problem with the idle
timer
and packet filtering: I want that outgoing icmp (destination unreachable)
and
tcp (fin/rst) packages do not change the idle timer.
Relevant parts of my configuration:

set timeout 120

set filter out 0 permit 0/0 0/0 icmp src eq 3 timeout X
set filter out 1 permit 0/0 0/0 tcp finrst timeout X
set filter out 2 permit 0/0 0/0

The man page ppp(8) says:
The timeout value adjusts the current idle timeout to at least
secs seconds.  If a timeout is given in the alive filter as well
as in the in/out filter, the in/out value is used.  If no time-
out is given, the default timeout (set using set timeout and
defaulting to 180 seconds) is used.

So, if I understand it correctly, my configuration with X replaced by 0
should do it,
but it does not: the rules have no effect at all.
When replacing X by a number of seconds > 0 it works in a way but the
behaviour
is not, what I would have expected: a maching rule sets timeout to exactly
X,
even if X is less than the old timeout value, while I interpreted the man
page:
increase the timeout if necessary (i.e. if X > current timeout).

So what am I doing wrong, how can I achieve the wanted behaviour?

Regards,
Karl

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Vahric MUHTARYAN wrote:
> First,Does bandwith limiting affect high loaded MailServers and Web
> Servers?! Because I know if I set bandwith limit I have to set queue at this
> moment some queue delay can be occur ?! 

Bandwidth limiting affects busy network services, certainly.  If you want to 
adjust the queue length, you should consider the available bandwidth divided 
by the MTU (gives units of packets over time).

> I think that mail server can handle it because SMTP will work under slow
> link. Does this limitation suitable for Web Server ( http protocol ) ?!! 

This will work with HTTP, yes.

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when I installed freebsd I tried to resize the /dev
partion bigger and It told me it was not possible even
though I had 5GB of free space it only let me to use
preset partition sizes:(
So know my /dev partiotion is too small. and the OS
is installed with KDE as GUI. and my /dev fills to
compasity and fails every thing that dosna fit into
it.

Is there a way to resize the partions Now without
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Hello List,

I am having some difficulty in getting my xl0 and xl1 3com cards to work
the way I'd like.  I'm running 5.1 Release and I'm basically trying to
have one interface with no IP address(specifying it as such in
/etc/rc.conf as ifconfig_xl1="up") And I'd like to have the other(xl0)
to have an IP address of my Internal Network.  The purpose of this setup
is to sniff traffic with the interface that has no IP address and allow
for management and reporting over the interface that has an IP
associated with the Internal network.

For some reason, this is just not working for me at all.  I've tried to
configure via rc.conf and this fails to work.  I've also tried assigning
an RFC 1918 address to the interface I want sniffing as this traffic
should not be routable, but it doesn't seem to work. 

Can anyone make a suggestion?

Here's what my rc.conf looks like:  

Hello List,

I am having some difficulty in getting my xl0 and xl1 3com cards to work
the way I'd like.  I'm running 5.1 Release and I'm basically trying to
have one interface with no IP address(specifying it as such in
/etc/rc.conf as ifconfig_xl1="up") And I'd like to have the other(xl0)
to have an IP address of my Internal Network.  The purpose of this setup
is to sniff traffic with the interface that has no IP address and allow
for management and reporting over the interface that has an IP
associated with the Internal network.

Here's the first few lines of my /etc/rc.conf

defaultrouter="192.168.1.1"
hostname="charon"
ifconfig_xl0="inet 192.168.1.6 netmask 255.255.255.0"
ifconfig_x11="up"

Will this accomplish what I'm trying to do successfully?


Scott

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Vahric MUHTARYAN wrote:
> 1)in tuning man siad that " Setting vfs.vmiodirenable improve the performans
> of sevices that manipulating a large number of file like Web Cache,large
> Mail System and News System " But I don't agree with it for mail system, or
> What type of mail systems can imporved with this settings ...
[ ... ]

Consider using Maildir-style mailboxes rather than MBOX-style. [cf procmail]

> 2)Can I set Kern.maxfilesperproc=0 because I don't want to seperate
> maxfilesize for seperate process ?! I mean I don't want to limit it for any
> process ?! 

I'm not sure whether 0 means "unlimited" for that parameter.  It's safer to 
set a reasonable limit to prevent a malicious or runaway process from hogging 
finite resources; set it to a few thousand or so and not worry about it. 
Unless you've got a monster news server or squid or something which wants lots 
of descriptors...

> 3)I think setting kern.pc.somaxconn is not necessary because all programs
> can handle their self listen queue size like Apache and Mail Programs . 

Yes, but it reasonable for the system (aka root) to set a maximum that no user 
process can exceed, just as other resource limits are handled-- man getrusage.

> One sentence disturb me in tunning man, "Larger listen queue also do a
> better job of fending off denial service attack" I can't imagine How ?!

While your inbound pipe might be full of DoS traffic, there may still be some 
valid requests coming in, as well as local network traffic which is still 
getting through.  A longer listen queue lets the machine at least try to 
service those connections rather than having them get dropped....

-- 
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Rogue Spider <rogue_spider@yahoo.com> writes:

> when I installed freebsd I tried to resize the /dev
> partion bigger and It told me it was not possible even
> though I had 5GB of free space it only let me to use
> preset partition sizes:(
> So know my /dev partiotion is too small. and the OS
> is installed with KDE as GUI. and my /dev fills to
> compasity and fails every thing that dosna fit into
> it.
> 
> Is there a way to resize the partions Now without
> having to reinstall from scratch.
> 

You'll have to give more information.  /dev is on a devfs on FreeBSD
5.x, which means it doesn't take any real disk space to begin with.
On an earlier version, /dev has to be on the root filesystem (and will
take up less than 100 kilobytes).

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Jaroslaw Nozderko wrote:
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>>However, I managed to work around these freezes by removing the two
>>SMP-related lines from my kernel configuration:
>>
>>options         SMP  # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel
>>device          apic # I/O APIC
>>
>>Additionally, I am sure ACPI does not have anything to do with this --
>>at least on this box.
>
> Well, it's getting more and more interesting... 
> I'm curious what does it have to do with SMP ?
> 
> Are you sure it has nothing to do with ACPI ?
> Other posters suggests disabling ACPI. Did you try
> and it didn't help ?

ACPI is still activated. Removing those two lines from my kernel 
configuration solved the problem for me. Have you tried that? This would 
help nailing the problem down, I guess.

BTW, I haven't tried with the geforce again, yet -- still running the 
i740 (which had the problems, too, of course).

Some people mentioned that the X11 freezes crawled in shortly before the 
5.2 branch; was there some (major?) update to the APIC stuff maybe? 
(Just guessing wild.)

Greetings,
Martin

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Scott Renna wrote:

> Hello List,
> 
> I am having some difficulty in getting my xl0 and xl1 3com cards to work
> the way I'd like.  I'm running 5.1 Release and I'm basically trying to
> have one interface with no IP address(specifying it as such in
> /etc/rc.conf as ifconfig_xl1="up") And I'd like to have the other(xl0)
> to have an IP address of my Internal Network.  The purpose of this setup
> is to sniff traffic with the interface that has no IP address and allow
> for management and reporting over the interface that has an IP
> associated with the Internal network.
> 
> For some reason, this is just not working for me at all.  I've tried to
> configure via rc.conf and this fails to work.  I've also tried assigning
> an RFC 1918 address to the interface I want sniffing as this traffic
> should not be routable, but it doesn't seem to work. 

What software are you using to sniff the traffic? Do you have the bpf 
device in your kernel? Do you get an error message or just no traffic 
recieved?

Andrew

P.S. Are you something to do with VooDoo Blue or do you just do their 
web site, or just a fan or something? :)

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> Okay, got ssh to work but mySQL gives me the following error when I try to
> start it:
> 
> ./mysql-server.sh: 6: Syntax error: "&&" unexpected

I remember that one. It is caused by a shell change: construction 
'command1 & && command2' is now considered illegal, whereas it was 
allowed before.

You can fix /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mysql-server.sh script yourself, or 
just get a newer version of this script from a newer port.
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* This would easier understand fewer had omitted.

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"Scott Renna" <srenna@vdbmusic.com> writes:

> Hello List,
> 
> I am having some difficulty in getting my xl0 and xl1 3com cards to work
> the way I'd like.  I'm running 5.1 Release and I'm basically trying to
> have one interface with no IP address(specifying it as such in
> /etc/rc.conf as ifconfig_xl1="up") And I'd like to have the other(xl0)
> to have an IP address of my Internal Network.  The purpose of this setup
> is to sniff traffic with the interface that has no IP address and allow
> for management and reporting over the interface that has an IP
> associated with the Internal network.
> 
> For some reason, this is just not working for me at all.  I've tried to
> configure via rc.conf and this fails to work.  I've also tried assigning
> an RFC 1918 address to the interface I want sniffing as this traffic
> should not be routable, but it doesn't seem to work. 
> 
> Can anyone make a suggestion?
> 
> Here's what my rc.conf looks like:  
> 
> Hello List,
> 
> I am having some difficulty in getting my xl0 and xl1 3com cards to work
> the way I'd like.  I'm running 5.1 Release and I'm basically trying to
> have one interface with no IP address(specifying it as such in
> /etc/rc.conf as ifconfig_xl1="up") And I'd like to have the other(xl0)
> to have an IP address of my Internal Network.  The purpose of this setup
> is to sniff traffic with the interface that has no IP address and allow
> for management and reporting over the interface that has an IP
> associated with the Internal network.
> 
> Here's the first few lines of my /etc/rc.conf
> 
> defaultrouter="192.168.1.1"
> hostname="charon"
> ifconfig_xl0="inet 192.168.1.6 netmask 255.255.255.0"
> ifconfig_x11="up"
> 
> Will this accomplish what I'm trying to do successfully?

Just checking the obvious:  you have bridging enabled, right?
[As in the "Bridging" chapter of the Handbook.]

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Mike Jeays <Mike.Jeays@rogers.com> writes:

> I have a Pentium 4 1.8 Ghz on an ASUS P4S533 motherboard.  FreeBSD
> 5.1 fails to install - it just hangs while probing for devices, and I
> left it for
> many minutes.  There is no ZIP or JAZZ drive; just an IDE disk and
> an LG CD-RW drive.
> 
> This machine installs and runs FreeBSD 4.7 with no problems, and the CD
> for 5.1 has been used successfully on other machines.  Any clues, please?

You don't provide much information here -- particularly for an "early
adopters only" version of the OS.

Does this still occur with 5.2?
Did the suggestions in the 5.1-RELEASE errata help?  Or even change
  anything at all?

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"Chris" <bsdnewbie@coolarrow.com> writes:

> 5.1

Not generally advised for production use, but I'll assume you've read
the release notes and so forth, and have reasons for using it.

> I have a server with 5 public IP addresses, so I'm thinking I'll set
> it up with one IP for the server (as a host) and the other 4
> assigned to 4 jails. The jails are for websites...
> 
> From a security standpoint, wouldn't it be better to run four
> instances of ftpd (one in each jail), as opposed to one instance on
> the host server?

Typically, yes.  There may be situations where that's not the case.
If you can use something more secure than FTP, you'll probably be
safer, but that may not be a selling point for your customers.

> And from a security standpoint, should I run apache from the host
> server, where I can configure mod_security the way I want, or just
> run individual apaches inside each jail and let the website owners
> configure it the way they want?

If you take the former option, the jails aren't gaining you as much as
in the latter option.  Again, though, it'll mostly come down to the
deal between you and your customers.

> I like the idea of running things inside the jail, and recognize
> that if the webmaster of the site configures it wrong, it's their
> problem not mine, but is the jail secure enough to allow them that
> much access?

Unless you configure it wrong.  :-)

Note that as the "owner" of the IP addresses, you will still have to
deal with some complaints.

> I have heard of hosting sites selling "virtual dedicated servers" by
> giving someone root access to a jail, so I'm thinking jails are
> fairly secure. Anyone with experience in this that can give me
> advice?

I don't have that sort of experience, but I know I've seen postings on
this topic on this and other FreeBSD mailing lists.

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John Mills <johnmills@speakeasy.net> writes:

> I just finished a fairly lightweight ftp installation of 5.1-Release and
> want to offer an X11 login screen. Basic XF86 seems to work fine. I
> followed the 'Configuring xdm' instructions in Greg Lehey's
> _Complete_FreeBSD_, ch.17, but didn't get quite all the way home.
> 
> I get the X11 login screen, mouse moves OK, but I never seem to focus the 
> username or password entry panels so that my keystrokes are seen. Neither 
> can I change to one of the other vt's (though I get 'bell' sounds on those 
> which should exist). The server seems to have gone both modal and deaf.

Hmm.  I'm pretty rusty on configuring X, but my first reaction is: 
"What happens when you try to start X with startx?"

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"Marius Kirschner" <marius@agoron.net> writes:

> Tried upgrading my php to the latest but 'make' fails with the following
> error:
> 
> /usr/ports/lang/php4/work/php-4.3.4/ext/gd/libgd/gdft.c:1060: structure has
> no member named `advance'
> /usr/ports/lang/php4/work/php-4.3.4/ext/gd/libgd/gdft.c:1061: structure has
> no member named `advance'
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/ports/lang/php4/work/php-4.3.4.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/ports/lang/php4.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/ports/lang/php4.

Were you using the default configuration for the port?
Did you ask the port maintainer about it?

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Roman Neuhauser <neuhauser@bellavista.cz> writes:

> I just got this failure on a
> 
> FreeBSD freepuppy.bellavista.cz 4.8-STABLE FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE #3: Tue Aug 26 12:34:53 CEST 2003     roman@freepuppy.bellavista.cz:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FREEPUPPY2_5  i386
> 
> in a buildworld of freshly updated /usr/src.
> UPDATING, marc.theaimsgroup.com, and google are quiet about the message.
> what's up?

You don't mention what you cvsup'd *to*, but it may not matter...

Did you run "mergemaster -p"?
Preferably one built from the new sources?

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I'm trying to patch the readline port to support READLINE_OVERWRITE_BASE 
as suggested by Edwin. im running into a bit of a snag with info files. 
Here is what I have in the Makefile

.if defined(READLINE_OVERWRITE_BASE)
PREFIX= /usr
MANPREFIX=      ${PREFIX}/share
INFOPREFIX=     ${PREFIX}/share
CONFIGURE_ARGS=        --mandir=${MANPREFIX}/man 
--infodir=${INFOPREFIX}/info
.endif

the correct location for info files should be /usr/share/info (am I 
wrong?) but when i do a make install for this port I get the following 
errors:

ls: /usr/info/readline.info*: No such file or directory
ls: /usr/info/rluserman.info*: No such file or directory
ls: /usr/info/history.info*: No such file or directory

After reading through bsd.port.mk I found this:

.for i in ${INFO}
        @${ECHO_CMD} "@unexec install-info --delete %D/info/$i.info 
%D/info/dir" \
                >> ${TMPPLIST}
        @${LS} ${PREFIX}/info/$i.info* | ${SED} -e s:${PREFIX}/::g >> 
${TMPPLIST}
        @${ECHO_CMD} "@exec install-info %D/info/$i.info %D/info/dir" \
                >> ${TMPPLIST}
.endfor

note the line starting with @${LS} it looks it PREFIX/info. which is my 
case would be /usr/info (which is wrong) is there any reason this 
shouldnt be something like ${INFOPREFIX} instead of ${PREFIX}? where 
INFOPREFIX=${PREFIX}/info
This would allow for ports to set the variable without having to write a 
custom installation script for allow for /usr/share/info. any ideas? Thanks


-Frank



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I am slowly understanding how things start up on 5.2, but was wondering 
about custom built apps (like qpopper or samba)...

I built these from scratch and wondering if anyone has a web page that 
shows the correct way to setup and use rc.conf and rc.d files?

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Hi!

> I guess what I'm asking is, in the httpd.conf can I have 1 entry for the
> same virtualhost - one for port 80 and the other for 443?

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T Kellers wrote:

>On Friday 02 January 2004 08:32 pm, Trey Sizemore wrote:
>  
>
>>T Kellers wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>On Friday 02 January 2004 06:49 pm, Trey Sizemore wrote:
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Eric F Crist wrote:
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>On Friday 02 January 2004 02:06 pm, T Kellers wrote:
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>Don't use both device pcm and the .ko modules.  The sound won't work at
>>>>>>all or, if it does, not properly.  You may not even have any keyboard
>>>>>>beeps (^G's) if both are loaded.
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>I find I only add the device pcm line to my kernel and everything works
>>>>>fine. Gnome, KDE, console beeps.  Everything works and I don't usually
>>>>>worry about the sound servers.  When you install one of the window
>>>>>managers, as long as you install the multimedia package, the correct
>>>>>sound server gets installed too.  This has been working for me for about
>>>>>5 years now.
>>>>>
>>>>>HTH
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>Update here...I have removed the entries in /boot/loader.conf and now
>>>>only have the kernel compiled with my 'device PCM' entry.
>>>>
>>>>'dmesg | grep pcm' shows my soundcard entry and cat /dev/sndstat shows
>>>>it as well.
>>>>
>>>>I have rebooted after taking the entries out of loader.conf.
>>>>
>>>>When I try something like
>>>>
>>>>% play KDE_Beep_Ahem.wav
>>>>
>>>>I get:
>>>>
>>>>play: /dev/dsp: Operation not supported by device
>>>>
>>>>What might be causing this that I could look into?
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>%play /usr/local/share/sounds/KDE_Beep_Ahem.wav
>>>play: /dev/dsp: Operation not supported by device
>>>
>>>
>>>I get that same message after I've shut down the arts server
>>>
>>>However
>>>artsplay /usr/local/share/sounds/KDE_Beep_Ahem.wav
>>>
>>>works fine as long as artsd is running
>>>
>>>%ps -ax | grep arts
>>>14333  p0  S      0:01.69 artsd
>>>14343  p0  R+     0:00.00 grep arts
>>>
>>>
>>>If you have KDE installed, try:
>>>
>>>%artsd &
>>>%artsplay /usr/local/share/sounds/KDE_Beep_Ahem.wav
>>>
>>>You should hear Mr Ahem clear his throat right from the command line.
>>>
>>>Tim
>>>      
>>>
>>Tried that and I get the following:
>>
>>Can't connect to sound server
>>    
>>
>
>Please try:
>ps -ax | grep arts
>
>and see if artsd is running
>
>If you start it manually you need to run artsd & before you type the test file 
>entry.
>
>Tim Kellers
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>
>  
>
Yes, it's running.  When I run the command from the command line now, it 
jumps right to the next line waiting for further input.  It's as if it 
played it as requested but I hear nothing.  My volume is up on the 
speakers, mixer levels are good...just no sound. :-(

No console beeps either.

This is in KDE.

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On Saturday 03 January 2004 01:54 pm, Trey Sizemore wrote:

> Yes, it's running.  When I run the command from the command line now, it
> jumps right to the next line waiting for further input.  It's as if it
> played it as requested but I hear nothing.  My volume is up on the
> speakers, mixer levels are good...just no sound. :-(
>
> No console beeps either.
>
> This is in KDE.

Can you paster the results of:

#kldstat

#cat /dev/sndstat

And tell me again (I lost that part of the thread) which Sound Card you have 
installed?

Tim

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On Sat, 2004-01-03 at 14:09, T Kellers wrote:
> On Saturday 03 January 2004 01:54 pm, Trey Sizemore wrote:
> 
> > Yes, it's running.  When I run the command from the command line now, it
> > jumps right to the next line waiting for further input.  It's as if it
> > played it as requested but I hear nothing.  My volume is up on the
> > speakers, mixer levels are good...just no sound. :-(
> >
> > No console beeps either.
> >
> > This is in KDE.
> 
> Can you paster the results of:
> 
> #kldstat
> 
> #cat /dev/sndstat
> 
> And tell me again (I lost that part of the thread) which Sound Card you have 
> installed?
> 
> Tim
> 

%kldstat -v
Id Refs Address    Size     Name
 1    5 0xc0400000 4f1014   kernel
        Contains modules:
                Id Name
                 1 xpt
                 2 probe
                 3 cam
                 4 cd
                 5 ch
                 6 da
                 7 pass
                 8 sa
                 9 ses
                10 isa/ata
                11 pci/atapci
                12 atapci/ata
                13 acd
                14 pci/bfe
                15 bfe/miibus
                16 pci/bge
                17 bge/miibus
                18 eisa/mainboard
                19 eisab/eisa
                20 legacy/eisa
                21 fwohci/firewire
                22 pci/fwohci
                23 cardbus/fwohci
                24 firewire/fwe
                25 firewire/sbp
                26 pci/fxp
                27 cardbus/fxp
                28 fxp/miibus
                29 g_md
                30 md
                31 miibus/amphy
                32 miibus/bmtphy
                33 miibus/brgphy
                34 miibus/dcphy
                35 miibus/e1000phy
                36 miibus/xlphy
                37 miibus/inphy
                38 miibus/mlphy
                39 miibus/nsphy
                40 miibus/nsgphy
                41 miibus/pnphy
                42 miibus/pnaphy
                43 miibus/rgephy
                44 miibus/rlphy
                45 miibus/ruephy
                46 miibus/tdkphy
                47 miibus/tlphy
                48 miibus/ukphy
                49 miibus/xmphy
                50 miibus/lxtphy
                51 miibus/qsphy
                52 miibus/acphy
                53 null
                54 pci/eisab
                55 pci/fixup_pci
                56 pci/ignore_pci
                57 pci/isab
                58 pcib/pci
                59 pci/pcib
                60 ppbus/plip
                61 ppbus/lpt
                62 ppc/ppbus
                63 ppbus/ppi
                64 random
                65 pci/re
                66 cardbus/re
                67 re/miibus
                68 pci/sio
                69 cardbus/sio
                70 isa/snd_ad1816
                71 isa/snd_es1888
                72 sbc/snd_ess
                73 isa/esscontrol
                74 isa/snd_gusc
                75 isa/snd_mss
                76 acpi/snd_mss
                77 isa/snd_pnpmss
                78 gusc/snd_guspcm
                79 sbc/snd_sb16
                80 sbc/snd_sb8
                81 isa/snd_sbc
                82 pci/snd_als4000
                83 pci/snd_cmi
                84 pci/snd_cs4281
                85 pci/snd_csa
                86 csa/snd_csapcm
                87 pci/snd_ds1
                88 pci/snd_emu10k1
                89 pci/emujoy
                90 pci/snd_es137x
                91 pci/snd_fm801
                92 pci/snd_ich
                93 pci/snd_maestro
                94 pci/snd_neomagic
                95 pci/snd_solo
                96 pci/snd_t4dwave
                97 pci/snd_via8233
                98 pci/snd_via82c686
                99 pci/snd_vibes
                100 snd_pcm
                101 uhub/uaudio
                102 uaudio/ua_pcm
                103 pci/tx
                104 tx/miibus
                105 pci/ohci
                106 cardbus/ohci
                107 uhub/ugen
                108 pci/uhci
                109 cardbus/uhci
                110 uhub/uhid
                111 usb/uhub
                112 uhub/uhub
                113 uhub/ukbd
                114 uhub/ulpt
                115 uhub/umass
                116 uhub/ums
                117 uhub/urio
                118 uhub/uscanner
                119 ohci/usb
                120 uhci/usb
                121 ehci/usb
                122 devfs
                123 msdosfs
                124 procfs
                125 pseudofs
                126 g_dev
                127 g_disk
                128 isab/isa
                129 eisab/isa
                130 legacy/isa
                131 isa/isahint
                132 isa/orm
                133 isa/pnp
                134 cd9660
                135 elf32
                136 shell
                137 rootbus
                138 msgsys
                139 msgctl
                140 msgget
                141 msgsnd
                142 msgrcv
                143 sysvmsg
                144 semsys
                145 __semctl
                146 semget
                147 semop
                148 sysvsem
                149 shmsys
                150 shmat
                151 shmctl
                152 shmdt
                153 shmget
                154 sysvshm
                155 ether
                156 if_faith
                157 if_gif
                158 loop
                159 if_ppp
                160 if_sl
                161 if_tun
                162 nfs
                163 nfs4
                164 nfsserver
                165 cardbus/dc
                166 pci/dc
                167 dc/miibus
                168 pci/de
                169 pci/pcn
                170 pcn/miibus
                171 pci/rl
                172 cardbus/rl
                173 rl/miibus
                174 pci/sf
                175 sf/miibus
                176 pci/sis
                177 sis/miibus
                178 pci/sk
                179 skc/sk
                180 sk/miibus
                181 pci/ste
                182 ste/miibus
                183 pci/ti
                184 pci/tl
                185 tl/miibus
                186 pci/vr
                187 vr/miibus
                188 pci/wb
                189 wb/miibus
                190 cardbus/xl
                191 pci/xl
                192 xl/miibus
                193 ufs
                194 g_class
                195 isa/ppc
                196 acpi/ppc
                197 isa/sio
                198 acpi/sio
                199 scterm-sc
                200 scrndr-vga
                201 g_bsd
                202 g_mbr
                203 g_mbrext
                204 isa/pnpbios
                205 nexus/legacy
                206 mem
                207 pci/piix
                208 legacy/mptable_pcib
                209 pci/mptable_pcib
                210 root/nexus
                211 isa/sysresource
                212 isa/atpic
                213 acpi/atpic
                214 isa/attimer
                215 acpi/attimer
                216 isa/atdma
                217 acpi/atdma
                218 nexus/npx
                219 isa/npxisa
                220 acpi/npxisa
                221 isa/pmtimer
                222 legacy/pcib
                223 pci/hostb
                224 isa/pcibus_pnp
                225 pci/pcibios_pcib
                226 atkbdc/atkbd
                227 isa/atkbdc
                228 acpi/atkbdc
                229 isa/fdc
                230 acpi/fdc
                231 fdc/fd
                232 atkbdc/psm
                233 isa/psmcpnp
                234 acpi/psmcpnp
                235 isa/sc
                236 isa/vga
                237 pci/agp_intel
                238 pci/agp_via
                239 pci/agp_sis
                240 pci/agp_ali
                241 pci/agp_amd
                242 pci/agp_i810
                243 pci/agp_nvidia
 2    1 0xc465a000 19000    linux.ko
        Contains modules:
                Id Name
                244 linuxelf
                245 linuxaout


%cat /dev/sndstat
FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm)
Installed devices:
pcm0: <Creative EMU10K1> at io 0xb800 irq 9 (4p/2r/0v channels duplex
default)

And I have a SoundBlaster Live! Value PCI soundcard.

Thanks.

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Try rebuilding gnustep and gnumail with the libart backend. It seems 
better than xgps. I had no such problem with libart and gnustep. Add 
WITH_GNUSTEP_LIBART=yes and WITH_GNUSTEP_DEVEL=yes in /etc/make.conf 
and rebuild. When its done setup your enviorment and run the command 
"defaults write NSGlobalDomain GSBackend libgnustep-art". You might 
want to run "defaults write NSGlobalDomain GSFontAntiAlias YES". Run 
these as the user who runs gnustep apps, ie not root.

Bob

On 2004-01-03 11:16:33 -0500 mikko <mikko@medusa.tutka.fi> wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I am having trouble trying to start the gnumail -port, which I 
> compiled
> from a port-tree from 2 week past. I was wondering if I could get help
> from here. I am running FreeBSD-5.1-release/i386.
> The program starts with a dialog box which has two buttons, but there
> isn't any text in them. In the titlebar there reads: critical.
> In xterm, from where I start the program, I get:
> 
> 2004-01-03 18:11:37.989
> GNUMail[78702] No font
> cache available - building new one - this may take several seconds (or
> minutes on a slow machine with lots of fonts)
> 2004-01-03 18:11:37.990 GNUMail[78702] Running
> /usr/local/GNUstep/System/Tools/font_cacher
> 
> and loads of:
> 
> 2004-01-03 18:14:36.668 GNUMail[78702] XGFont: selected font: Fixed at
> 12.000000 ((nil)) is not available.
> 2004-01-03 18:14:36.668 GNUMail[78702] DPS (xgps): no font set
> /usr/local/GNUstep/Local/Applications/GNUMail.app/GNUMail: Uncaught
> exception NSInvalidArgumentException, reason: Tried to add nil value 
> to
> dictionary
> 
> and when I try to run 'font_cacher', I get:
> 
> X Error of failed request:  BadValue (integer parameter out of range 
> for
> operation)
>   Major opcode of failed request:  45 (X_OpenFont)
>   Value in failed request:  0x2a015f6
>   Serial number of failed request:  23054
>   Current serial number in output stream:  23055
> 
> from here on, I do not know how to proceed. Help appreciated.
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I almost forgot. You will get a different font error with the libart 
backend, but I know how to fix it :) Download this gziped tarball
http://www.stupid-design.com/martin/GNUstep.de/Fonts/FreeFonts.nfont.tar.gz
and unpack it in /usr/local/GNUstep/System/Library/Fonts. Everything 
should be fine then. Also see:
http://www.stupid-design.com/martin/GNUstep.de/Fonts/index.en.php3

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I am using Snort and a few other tools to decide which I'd like best.
Here's the thing about Lowell's comment on Bridging.  Is this necessary
in this case?  I don't want the interface without an IP to EVER transmit
outbound.  If I Need to enable bridging I'll do so.  The other thing is,
is it possible to configure each card to be on a different subnet(like
xl1 on 10.X.X.X and xl0 on 192.X.X.X)?

Bpf is in the kernel
Andrew, do you like VooDoo Blue?  Let me know, I am involved.



-----Original Message-----
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Scott Renna wrote:

> Hello List,
> 
> I am having some difficulty in getting my xl0 and xl1 3com cards to
work
> the way I'd like.  I'm running 5.1 Release and I'm basically trying to
> have one interface with no IP address(specifying it as such in
> /etc/rc.conf as ifconfig_xl1="up") And I'd like to have the other(xl0)
> to have an IP address of my Internal Network.  The purpose of this
setup
> is to sniff traffic with the interface that has no IP address and
allow
> for management and reporting over the interface that has an IP
> associated with the Internal network.
> 
> For some reason, this is just not working for me at all.  I've tried
to
> configure via rc.conf and this fails to work.  I've also tried
assigning
> an RFC 1918 address to the interface I want sniffing as this traffic
> should not be routable, but it doesn't seem to work. 

What software are you using to sniff the traffic? Do you have the bpf 
device in your kernel? Do you get an error message or just no traffic 
recieved?

Andrew

P.S. Are you something to do with VooDoo Blue or do you just do their 
web site, or just a fan or something? :)


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On Sat, Jan 03, 2004 at 12:38:33PM -0600, J.D. Bronson wrote:

> I built these from scratch and wondering if anyone has a web page that=20
> shows the correct way to setup and use rc.conf and rc.d files?

Well, there's the rc.conf(5) man page, and the /etc/defaults/rc.conf
file, which will show you all of the default settings.  rc.conf is
pretty simple really -- it's just a list of shell variable assignments
which all of the other /etc/rc* scripts read and which controls their
behaviour.

As for rc.d scripts for the programs you compiled, probably the best
thing to do is extract the startup scripts from the corresponding
ports.  Note however that qpopper(8) is run out of inetd(8) -- you
need to add the following line to /etc/inetd.conf:

   pop3 stream tcp nowait root /usr/local/libexec/qpopper qpopper -s

and then restart inetd:

   # kill -HUP `cat /var/run/inetd.pid`

(if you're already running inetd, that is.  If you aren't then a quick
perusal of the rc.conf stuff above will show you what to do.)

While you can run samba out of inetd(8), most people will run it
standalone.  In this case, simply copy the file
/usr/port/net/samba/files/samba.sh.sample to
/usr/local/etc/rc.d/samba.sh, make sure it's owned by root:wheel and
mode 750 or 755 and then just run it -- usually with rc.d files you
need to give the full path:

    # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/samba.sh start

(No prizes for guessing that you can substitute 'stop' in that command
line to turn samba off again).  This assumes that you've installed all
of the samba executables in appropriate places, created the
directories it needs to run and so forth.  You may have to customize
the script if you've put things in odd places.

If this all seems tedious and complicated -- you've only yourself to
blame.  If you'ld just installed from ports, all this would either be
handled automatically for you, or you'ld get instructions as to what
to do next printed out.

	Cheers,

	Matthew

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At 02:31 PM 1/3/2004, Matthew Seaman wrote:
>On Sat, Jan 03, 2004 at 12:38:33PM -0600, J.D. Bronson wrote:
>
> > I built these from scratch and wondering if anyone has a web page that
> > shows the correct way to setup and use rc.conf and rc.d files?
>
>Well, there's the rc.conf(5) man page, and the /etc/defaults/rc.conf
>file, which will show you all of the default settings.  rc.conf is
>pretty simple really -- it's just a list of shell variable assignments
>which all of the other /etc/rc* scripts read and which controls their
>behaviour.
>
>As for rc.d scripts for the programs you compiled, probably the best
>thing to do is extract the startup scripts from the corresponding
>ports.  Note however that qpopper(8) is run out of inetd(8) -- you
>need to add the following line to /etc/inetd.conf:
>
>    pop3 stream tcp nowait root /usr/local/libexec/qpopper qpopper -s
>
>and then restart inetd:
>
>    # kill -HUP `cat /var/run/inetd.pid`
>
>(if you're already running inetd, that is.  If you aren't then a quick
>perusal of the rc.conf stuff above will show you what to do.)
>
>While you can run samba out of inetd(8), most people will run it
>standalone.  In this case, simply copy the file
>/usr/port/net/samba/files/samba.sh.sample to
>/usr/local/etc/rc.d/samba.sh, make sure it's owned by root:wheel and
>mode 750 or 755 and then just run it -- usually with rc.d files you
>need to give the full path:
>
>     # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/samba.sh start
>
>(No prizes for guessing that you can substitute 'stop' in that command
>line to turn samba off again).  This assumes that you've installed all
>of the samba executables in appropriate places, created the
>directories it needs to run and so forth.  You may have to customize
>the script if you've put things in odd places.
>
>If this all seems tedious and complicated -- you've only yourself to
>blame.  If you'ld just installed from ports, all this would either be
>handled automatically for you, or you'ld get instructions as to what
>to do next printed out.


thanks ...I tossed what I needed in /usr/local/etc/rc.d and it works fine..

I dont use ports..I only compile from src code...

Thanks again.





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On Sat, Jan 03, 2004 at 03:27:33PM -0500, Scott Renna wrote:
> I am using Snort and a few other tools to decide which I'd like best.
> Here's the thing about Lowell's comment on Bridging.  Is this necessary
> in this case?  I don't want the interface without an IP to EVER transmit
> outbound.  If I Need to enable bridging I'll do so.  The other thing is,
> is it possible to configure each card to be on a different subnet(like
> xl1 on 10.X.X.X and xl0 on 192.X.X.X)?

Sounds like you want to put the interface into 'monitor' mode -- see
ifconfig(8).  If all you want to do on this box is sniff traffic on
your network, that should be sufficient, although you will have to
configure your switches to pump out a copy of each packet they deal
with to the port your box is connected to.  It takes quite a
sophisticated switch to actually have that capability.

I'm not sure if you even need to specify an address for the card when
used in this way: I think it should just pick up any traffic it sees.
There's no problem with having multiple interfaces on sniffing on
multiple networks, or even having the traffic from several networks
all directed to the same interface for sniffing. =20

An alternative way of doing this, which is what I presume Lowell was
on about, is to make the sniffing box a bridge between two network
segments.  In this case, you can't use the ifconfig monitor stuff as
the machine will have to forward packets between it's interfaces, and
the machine will have to have one IP number on that network, so it
can't be invisible.

	Cheers,

	Matthew

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On Jan 2, 2004, at 3:36 PM, Lowell Gilbert wrote:

> Will Prater <lists-wp@mercurycloud.net> writes:
>
>> List,
>>
>> sshd seems to be crashing my server. I am looking for any help
>> regarding why this could be happening. I am running sshd version
>> OpenSSH_3.6.1. Here is the output from dmesg:
>>
>> the machine crashed every time when running
>>
>> #ipfw show
>> or
>> #dmesg -a
>>
>> for example and will crash when part way through the listing. Any
>> ideas??
>>
>> ----
>> Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
>> fault virtual address   = 0x0
>> fault code              = supervisor read, page not present
>> instruction pointer     = 0x8:0xc023c52a
>> stack pointer           = 0x10:0xd9ff6bbc
>> frame pointer           = 0x10:0xd9ff6be4
>> code segment            = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b
>>                          = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
>> processor eflags        = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0
>> current process         = 394 (sshd)
>> interrupt mask          = net tty
>> trap number             = 12
>> panic: page fault
>
> 1) What version of FreeBSD?

4.9 RELEASE

> 2) How did you install that version of OpenSSH?

I have tried the one from the ports and the pre-installed version.


Thanks


--will

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Robert Warning wrote:
> I almost forgot. You will get a different font error with the libart 
> backend, but I know how to fix it :) Download this gziped tarball
> http://www.stupid-design.com/martin/GNUstep.de/Fonts/FreeFonts.nfont.tar.gz
> and unpack it in /usr/local/GNUstep/System/Library/Fonts. Everything 
> should be fine then. Also see:
> http://www.stupid-design.com/martin/GNUstep.de/Fonts/index.en.php3

Please see http://wiki.gnustep.org/index.php/nfont%20packages

There are more links to more (imho better) nfont packages than the ones 
I have on GNUstep.de.

As a side note: custom installed stuff should go into GNUstep/Local/... 
rather than System/... :-)

Greetings,
Martin

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On Sat, Jan 03, 2004 at 02:38:35PM -0600, J.D. Bronson wrote:
=20
> I dont use ports..I only compile from src code...

You are aware that "using ports" is precisely "compiling from source
code"?  Ports is a system for automating all of the tedious bits of
compiling up software: it downloads the source, verifies it against an
MD5 checksum, unpacks it, applies patches as necessary, configures,
compiles and installs it. What's more, it automatically handles
installing all required dependencies, it keeps track of all of the
files that get installed (so you can painlessly de-install stuff later
on -- a very big win for a busy admin) and it has a bunch of handy
tools available that let you update what you already have installed as
new versions come out.

You can even tar up all of the files installed by a port (plus a few
administrative bits) in order to install them on a different machine.
That, however is called "creating a package", and installing pkgs is a
different thing entirely.

	Cheers,

	Matthew

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> > ./mysql-server.sh: 6: Syntax error: "&&" unexpected
> 
> I remember that one. It is caused by a shell change: construction
> 'command1 & && command2' is now considered illegal, whereas 
> it was allowed before.
> 
> You can fix /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mysql-server.sh script 
> yourself, or just get a newer version of this script from a 
> newer port.

Yes, I was able to restart mysql after removing the "&&" from the startup
script, and later I upgraded the whole port.  Thanks,

---Marius

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At 02:31 PM 1/3/2004, Matthew Seaman wrote:
>On Sat, Jan 03, 2004 at 12:38:33PM -0600, J.D. Bronson wrote:
>
> > I built these from scratch and wondering if anyone has a web page that
> > shows the correct way to setup and use rc.conf and rc.d files?
>
>Well, there's the rc.conf(5) man page, and the /etc/defaults/rc.conf
>file, which will show you all of the default settings.  rc.conf is
>pretty simple really -- it's just a list of shell variable assignments
>which all of the other /etc/rc* scripts read and which controls their
>behaviour.
>
>As for rc.d scripts for the programs you compiled, probably the best
>thing to do is extract the startup scripts from the corresponding
>ports.  Note however that qpopper(8) is run out of inetd(8) -- you
>need to add the following line to /etc/inetd.conf:
>
>    pop3 stream tcp nowait root /usr/local/libexec/qpopper qpopper -s
>
>and then restart inetd:
>
>    # kill -HUP `cat /var/run/inetd.pid`
>
>(if you're already running inetd, that is.  If you aren't then a quick
>perusal of the rc.conf stuff above will show you what to do.)
>
>While you can run samba out of inetd(8), most people will run it
>standalone.  In this case, simply copy the file
>/usr/port/net/samba/files/samba.sh.sample to
>/usr/local/etc/rc.d/samba.sh, make sure it's owned by root:wheel and
>mode 750 or 755 and then just run it -- usually with rc.d files you
>need to give the full path:
>
>     # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/samba.sh start
>
>(No prizes for guessing that you can substitute 'stop' in that command
>line to turn samba off again).  This assumes that you've installed all
>of the samba executables in appropriate places, created the
>directories it needs to run and so forth.  You may have to customize
>the script if you've put things in odd places.
>
>If this all seems tedious and complicated -- you've only yourself to
>blame.  If you'ld just installed from ports, all this would either be
>handled automatically for you, or you'ld get instructions as to what
>to do next printed out.


thanks ...I tossed what I needed in /usr/local/etc/rc.d and it works fine..

I dont use ports..I only compile from src code...

Thanks again.





-- 
J.D. Bronson
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Hi Martin,

>
> ACPI is still activated. Removing those two lines from my kernel
> configuration solved the problem for me. Have you tried that? This would
> help nailing the problem down, I guess.
>
> BTW, I haven't tried with the geforce again, yet -- still running the
> i740 (which had the problems, too, of course).
>
> Some people mentioned that the X11 freezes crawled in shortly before the
> 5.2 branch; was there some (major?) update to the APIC stuff maybe?
> (Just guessing wild.)
>
> Greetings,
> Martin

I installed 5.2-RC2 again, added 

hint.acpi.0.disabled="1"

to /boot/device.hints, but then I got this in dmesg after vga0:...

unknown: <PNP0401> can't assign resources (port)
unknown: <PNP0501> can't assign resources (port)
unknown: <PNP0501> can't assign resources (port)
unknown: <PNP0700> can't assign resources (port)
unknown: <PNP0f13> can't assign resources (irq)
unknown: <PNP0303> can't assign resources (port)

Messages were always present with ACPI disabled and
absent when enabled. I've decided to get back
to 5.1 and wait for 5.2-RELEASE...

Regards,
Jarek

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Hi Scott,

> I am using Snort and a few other tools to decide which I'd like best.
> Here's the thing about Lowell's comment on Bridging.  Is this necessary
> in this case?

It certainly isn't necessary...it is an option.

> I don't want the interface without an IP to EVER transmit
> outbound.

A firewall could accomplish this...

<<snip>>
>(specifying it as such in /etc/rc.conf as ifconfig_xl1="up")

Have you tried to specify "ifconfig xl1 up" on the command line?...I'm not
sure that "ifconfig_xl1="up" is a legal statement in rc.conf(could be
wrong).

Once you get it working, (to avoid unnecessary variables) you might want
to do "ifconfig xl1 -arp" to disable arp on that interface if it's just
going to sit in promiscuous mode.

>> For some reason, this is just not working for me at all.  I've tried to
>> configure via rc.conf and this fails to work.  I've also tried assigning
>> an RFC 1918 address to the interface I want sniffing as this traffic
>> should not be routable, but it doesn't seem to work.

This could be because your xl0 interface is already assigned a 192.168.x.x
address. I don't think FreeBSD can have two interfaces on the same subnet.
You could have to interfaces of different subnets (eg. 192.168.0.0/24 and
192.168.1.0/24)


-Stephen





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> > I don't want the interface without an IP to EVER transmit
> > outbound.
> A firewall could accomplish this...

Or simply do not assign an IP address at all. And if you want to go below
IP; check out the -arp option in the ifconfig man page.

Dw

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Hi list,

I've installed FreeBSD 4.9 -stable on my Sun LX50
system. Everything seems to work fine, exept reboot.
If I use "reboot" or "shutdown -r now", it looks like
the system is rebooting: screen turning black, the
leds are blinking... but it never comes up.

I'd apreciate any thoughts. Thanx!

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Hi, 


	Okey your right because with maildir-style each messages are saving
in different files but this files are downloaded from client with using POP3
at this moment I wonder How caching Directory or files improve the
performans because files are not available after download .. 

But if you mean that, those directories and files are caching when new email
address arrive . I think everything will be okey ... 


I will try Kern.maxfilesperproc=0 parameter because I think that if
maxusers=0 is woking which is default, at this moment Kern.maxfilesperproc=0
Too .  I will inform you 


Can I say kern.pc.somaxconn limits for system and no service can exceed this
limit like apache or mail services ?! 

Another point of view about large listen queue, Okey you are thinking valid
request but DoS can over this listen queue easy.Doesn'T it ?! 


Thanks For You Help 
Vahric  



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Vahric MUHTARYAN wrote:
> 1)in tuning man siad that " Setting vfs.vmiodirenable improve the
performans
> of sevices that manipulating a large number of file like Web Cache,large
> Mail System and News System " But I don't agree with it for mail system,
or
> What type of mail systems can imporved with this settings ...
[ ... ]

Consider using Maildir-style mailboxes rather than MBOX-style. [cf procmail]

> 2)Can I set Kern.maxfilesperproc=0 because I don't want to seperate
> maxfilesize for seperate process ?! I mean I don't want to limit it for
any
> process ?! 

I'm not sure whether 0 means "unlimited" for that parameter.  It's safer to 
set a reasonable limit to prevent a malicious or runaway process from
hogging 
finite resources; set it to a few thousand or so and not worry about it. 
Unless you've got a monster news server or squid or something which wants
lots 
of descriptors...

> 3)I think setting kern.pc.somaxconn is not necessary because all programs
> can handle their self listen queue size like Apache and Mail Programs . 

Yes, but it reasonable for the system (aka root) to set a maximum that no
user 
process can exceed, just as other resource limits are handled-- man
getrusage.

> One sentence disturb me in tunning man, "Larger listen queue also do a
> better job of fending off denial service attack" I can't imagine How ?!

While your inbound pipe might be full of DoS traffic, there may still be
some 
valid requests coming in, as well as local network traffic which is still 
getting through.  A longer listen queue lets the machine at least try to 
service those connections rather than having them get dropped....

-- 
-Chuck



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> Can one restrict permissions on /etc/crontab without creating 
> troubles 
> if there are nothing special in there except what was 
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Why do you need to?  It should only be writeable by root anyway.  Normal
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> I added these two lines to the stanza for the printer itself:
> 
>     guest ok = yes
>     use client driver = yes
> 
> And that seemed to make my "access denied" error go away.
> 

Another thing to try is on the windows side, try adding the printer as a
local printer.

XP steps:
1) Add printer
2) Local printer (uncheck auto detect) -> Next
3) Create a new port
4) Dialog comes up.  Type in server/printer name (\\fileserver\Printer)
5) Select printer driver.

Click through to finish.

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/sys/i386/conf/NOTES    on 5.x

Mike Maltese wrote:

>>>>options CPU_ATHLON_SSE_HACK
>>>>options CPU_ENABLE_SSE
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>These are also valid kernel options for 4.x.
>>>      
>>>
>>Where are these documented?
>>    
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Jaroslaw Nozderko wrote:
[...]
> 
> I installed 5.2-RC2 again, added 
> 
> hint.acpi.0.disabled="1"
> 
> to /boot/device.hints, but then I got this in dmesg after vga0:...
> 
> unknown: <PNP0401> can't assign resources (port)
> unknown: <PNP0501> can't assign resources (port)
> unknown: <PNP0501> can't assign resources (port)
> unknown: <PNP0700> can't assign resources (port)
> unknown: <PNP0f13> can't assign resources (irq)
> unknown: <PNP0303> can't assign resources (port)
> 
> Messages were always present with ACPI disabled and
> absent when enabled. I've decided to get back
> to 5.1 and wait for 5.2-RELEASE...
> 

Have you tried removing

options         SMP  # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel
device          apic # I/O APIC

from your kernel config and recompiled?

I just put in the nvidida card again: no freezes with those two options 
removed from my kernel. And acpi.ko is working happily.

Greetings,
Martin

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Benchmarks of all BSD's and Linux

http://bulk.fefe.de/scalability/index.html

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Benchmark-tables only in german language
Also a comparison with SCO-OpenUnix 8

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Tuning FreeBSD for different applications:

http://silverwraith.com/papers/freebsd-tuning.php

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Another Site for optimising FreeBSD and it's kernel:

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Sites with longest running systems by last uptime in the last 7 days 

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Another realtime-kernel for BSD.

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Another highspeed-compiler

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Hello,
    I've just realised that I am unable to mount a cdrom disk as a non-root=
 user for *any* of my machines.

All hosts concerned are running FreeBSD-4.9Stable, and running through: htt=
p://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.IS...SER-FLOPPYMOUNT does *not* work for me a=
t all..,

Here's what I keep getting:
Checking groups to which the user belongs:
$ id stacey
uid=3D1001(stacey) gid=3D1001(stacey) groups=3D1001(stacey), 0(wheel), 5(op=
erator)
~ $

Checking to see if the vfs.usermount sysctl parameter is set:
# sysctl -a | grep -i usermount
vfs.usermount: 1
#mount /cdrom
#ls /cdrom
acrobat ds.dll intel pcplus95.inf setup.exe
autorun.inf ds32.dll language pwrchute.ico setup16.exe
demo.dbd install.txt manuals readme.txt win95
#exit

As root I can mount and read the CD fine.., checking for non-root user:
exit
~ $ mount /cdrom
cd9660: /dev/acd0c: Operation not permitted
~ $ mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0c ~/cdrom
cd9660: /dev/acd0c: Operation not permitted
~ $

Attempting to mount to mount-point in user home dir:
~ $ cd ~
~ $ pwd
/home/stacey
~ $ ls -ltra cdrom
total 6
drwxr-xr-x 2 stacey stacey 512 Jan 3 23:50 ./
drwxr-xr-x 31 stacey stacey 2560 Jan 3 23:50 ../
~ $ mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0c ~/cdrom
cd9660: /dev/acd0c: Operation not permitted
~ $

This doesn't work either for me..,

Checking device in /etc/fstab:
~ $ cat /etc/fstab
# See the fstab(5) manual page for important information on automatic mounts
# of network filesystems before modifying this file.
#
# Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass#
/dev/ad0s1b none swap sw 0 0
/dev/ad1s1b none swap sw 0 0
/dev/ad0s1a / ufs rw 1 1
/dev/ad1s1e /home ufs rw 2 2
/dev/ad0s1f /usr ufs rw 2 2
/dev/ad0s1e /var ufs rw 2 2
/dev/acd0c /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0
proc /proc procfs rw 0 0
~ $

Is there some step that I've neglected somewhere along the way? This is the=
 same failure I see on all hosts.., doesn't matter which one..,

Regards,

Stacey
--=20
Stacey Roberts
B. Sc (HONS) Computer Science

Web: www.vickiandstacey.com

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On Sun, Jan 04, 2004 at 12:53:52AM +0000, Stacey Roberts wrote:
> Hello,
> As root I can mount and read the CD fine.., checking for non-root user:
> exit
> ~ $ mount /cdrom
> cd9660: /dev/acd0c: Operation not permitted
> ~ $ mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0c ~/cdrom
> cd9660: /dev/acd0c: Operation not permitted
> ~ $
> 
> Attempting to mount to mount-point in user home dir:
> ~ $ cd ~
> ~ $ pwd
> /home/stacey
> ~ $ ls -ltra cdrom
> total 6
> drwxr-xr-x 2 stacey stacey 512 Jan 3 23:50 ./
> drwxr-xr-x 31 stacey stacey 2560 Jan 3 23:50 ../
> ~ $ mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0c ~/cdrom
> cd9660: /dev/acd0c: Operation not permitted
> ~ $

chmod +s /sbin/umount /sbin/mount

works fine for me (without any other changes necessary). Don't know
if it's the recommended procedure though.

Gautam

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On Sun, 4 Jan 2004 11:59:29 +1100
Gautam Gopalakrishnan <ggop@madras.dyndns.org> wrote:

> On Sun, Jan 04, 2004 at 12:53:52AM +0000, Stacey Roberts wrote:
> > Hello,
> > As root I can mount and read the CD fine.., checking for non-root
> > user: exit
> > ~ $ mount /cdrom
> > cd9660: /dev/acd0c: Operation not permitted
> > ~ $ mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0c ~/cdrom
> > cd9660: /dev/acd0c: Operation not permitted
> > ~ $
> > 
> > Attempting to mount to mount-point in user home dir:
> > ~ $ cd ~
> > ~ $ pwd
> > /home/stacey
> > ~ $ ls -ltra cdrom
> > total 6
> > drwxr-xr-x 2 stacey stacey 512 Jan 3 23:50 ./
> > drwxr-xr-x 31 stacey stacey 2560 Jan 3 23:50 ../
> > ~ $ mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0c ~/cdrom
> > cd9660: /dev/acd0c: Operation not permitted
> > ~ $
> 
> chmod +s /sbin/umount /sbin/mount
> 
> works fine for me (without any other changes necessary). Don't know
> if it's the recommended procedure though.
> 
> Gautam

I worked around this a different way: I chown'd /dev/acd0c to the uid of
the user.  Probably *not* the recommended procedure :)

-Chris

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On Sat, Jan 03, 2004 at 05:12:41PM -0800, Chris Pressey wrote:
> On Sun, 4 Jan 2004 11:59:29 +1100
> Gautam Gopalakrishnan <ggop@madras.dyndns.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, Jan 04, 2004 at 12:53:52AM +0000, Stacey Roberts wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > As root I can mount and read the CD fine.., checking for non-root
> > > user: exit
> > > ~ $ mount /cdrom
> > > cd9660: /dev/acd0c: Operation not permitted
> > > ~ $ mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0c ~/cdrom
> > > cd9660: /dev/acd0c: Operation not permitted
> > > ~ $
> > > 
> > > Attempting to mount to mount-point in user home dir:
> > > ~ $ cd ~
> > > ~ $ pwd
> > > /home/stacey
> > > ~ $ ls -ltra cdrom
> > > total 6
> > > drwxr-xr-x 2 stacey stacey 512 Jan 3 23:50 ./
> > > drwxr-xr-x 31 stacey stacey 2560 Jan 3 23:50 ../
> > > ~ $ mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0c ~/cdrom
> > > cd9660: /dev/acd0c: Operation not permitted
> > > ~ $
> > 
> > chmod +s /sbin/umount /sbin/mount
> > 
> > works fine for me (without any other changes necessary). Don't know
> > if it's the recommended procedure though.
> > 
> > Gautam
> 
> I worked around this a different way: I chown'd /dev/acd0c to the uid of
> the user.  Probably *not* the recommended procedure :)

I guess a cleaner solution is to add the user to the operator group
and chmod to 664.

Gautam

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Hello,
     Thanks for the reply..,

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gautam Gopalakrishnan <ggop@madras.dyndns.org>"
To: To Stacey Roberts
Date: Sun, 04 Jan, 2004 00:59 GMT
Subject: Re: Mount /cdrom as non-root user - does this actually work for an=
yone?

> On Sun, Jan 04, 2004 at 12:53:52AM +0000, Stacey Roberts wrote:
> > Hello,
> > As root I can mount and read the CD fine.., checking for non-root user:
> > exit
> > ~ $ mount /cdrom
> > cd9660: /dev/acd0c: Operation not permitted
> > ~ $ mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0c ~/cdrom
> > cd9660: /dev/acd0c: Operation not permitted
> > ~ $
> >=20
> > Attempting to mount to mount-point in user home dir:
> > ~ $ cd ~
> > ~ $ pwd
> > /home/stacey
> > ~ $ ls -ltra cdrom
> > total 6
> > drwxr-xr-x 2 stacey stacey 512 Jan 3 23:50 ./
> > drwxr-xr-x 31 stacey stacey 2560 Jan 3 23:50 ../
> > ~ $ mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0c ~/cdrom
> > cd9660: /dev/acd0c: Operation not permitted
> > ~ $
>=20
> chmod +s /sbin/umount /sbin/mount
>=20
> works fine for me (without any other changes necessary). Don't know
> if it's the recommended procedure though.
>=20

Nor I, to be honest.., I'm not sure about setting the suid bit on mount.., =
Given that the HandBook provides what I thought would have been straight-fo=
rward instructions on what (presumably) is I hoped is a simple procedure..,=
 I'd not want to start making undocumented config changes.

Thanks all the same for taking the time to respond.

Regards,

Stacey

> Gautam
>=20

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Hello,

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gautam Gopalakrishnan <ggop@madras.dyndns.org>"
To: To Chris Pressey
Date: Sun, 04 Jan, 2004 01:11 GMT
Subject: Re: Mount /cdrom as non-root user - does this actually work for an=
yone?

> On Sat, Jan 03, 2004 at 05:12:41PM -0800, Chris Pressey wrote:
> > On Sun, 4 Jan 2004 11:59:29 +1100
> > Gautam Gopalakrishnan <ggop@madras.dyndns.org> wrote:
> >=20
> > > On Sun, Jan 04, 2004 at 12:53:52AM +0000, Stacey Roberts wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > > As root I can mount and read the CD fine.., checking for non-root
> > > > user: exit
> > > > ~ $ mount /cdrom
> > > > cd9660: /dev/acd0c: Operation not permitted
> > > > ~ $ mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0c ~/cdrom
> > > > cd9660: /dev/acd0c: Operation not permitted
> > > > ~ $
> > > >=20
> > > > Attempting to mount to mount-point in user home dir:
> > > > ~ $ cd ~
> > > > ~ $ pwd
> > > > /home/stacey
> > > > ~ $ ls -ltra cdrom
> > > > total 6
> > > > drwxr-xr-x 2 stacey stacey 512 Jan 3 23:50 ./
> > > > drwxr-xr-x 31 stacey stacey 2560 Jan 3 23:50 ../
> > > > ~ $ mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0c ~/cdrom
> > > > cd9660: /dev/acd0c: Operation not permitted
> > > > ~ $
> > >=20
> > > chmod +s /sbin/umount /sbin/mount
> > >=20
> > > works fine for me (without any other changes necessary). Don't know
> > > if it's the recommended procedure though.
> > >=20
> > > Gautam
> >=20
> > I worked around this a different way: I chown'd /dev/acd0c to the uid of
> > the user.  Probably *not* the recommended procedure :)
>=20
> I guess a cleaner solution is to add the user to the operator group
> and chmod to 664.
>=20

Err.., but this *is* part of the procedure in the HandBook (http://www.free=
bsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#USER-FLOPPYMOUNT) that doe=
s not work for me..,=20

Regards,

Stacey

> Gautam
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Scott Renna wrote:
> I am using Snort and a few other tools to decide which I'd like best.
> Here's the thing about Lowell's comment on Bridging.  Is this necessary
> in this case?  I don't want the interface without an IP to EVER transmit
> outbound.  If I Need to enable bridging I'll do so.  The other thing is,
> is it possible to configure each card to be on a different subnet(like
> xl1 on 10.X.X.X and xl0 on 192.X.X.X)?

See Matthew Seaman's post on this - I think he knows more about this 
than I do ;) I remember using snort for something recently and don't 
remember encountering any problems - It shouldn't need to be assigned an 
IP AFAIK.

> Andrew, do you like VooDoo Blue?  Let me know, I am involved.

For some reason, your email address insipred me to check out 
www.vdbmusic.com - I hadn't heard of the band before then. I downloaded 
a couple of MP3s from the site and they are pretty good :)

Not sure if their music ever makes it to Scotland though, which is where 
I am!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Boothman [mailto:andrew@cream.org] 
> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 12:27 PM
> To: Scott Renna
> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: problem with 2 nics in same box
> 
> Scott Renna wrote:
> 
> 
>>Hello List,
>>
>>I am having some difficulty in getting my xl0 and xl1 3com cards to
> 
> work
> 
>>the way I'd like.  I'm running 5.1 Release and I'm basically trying to
>>have one interface with no IP address(specifying it as such in
>>/etc/rc.conf as ifconfig_xl1="up") And I'd like to have the other(xl0)
>>to have an IP address of my Internal Network.  The purpose of this
> 
> setup
> 
>>is to sniff traffic with the interface that has no IP address and
> 
> allow
> 
>>for management and reporting over the interface that has an IP
>>associated with the Internal network.
>>
>>For some reason, this is just not working for me at all.  I've tried
> 
> to
> 
>>configure via rc.conf and this fails to work.  I've also tried
> 
> assigning
> 
>>an RFC 1918 address to the interface I want sniffing as this traffic
>>should not be routable, but it doesn't seem to work. 
> 
> 
> What software are you using to sniff the traffic? Do you have the bpf 
> device in your kernel? Do you get an error message or just no traffic 
> recieved?
> 
> Andrew
> 
> P.S. Are you something to do with VooDoo Blue or do you just do their 
> web site, or just a fan or something? :)
> 
> 
> 
> 


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I have the need to re-configire mod_php4 using the ports and add another
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On Thu, 1 Jan 2004, Philip M. Gollucci wrote:

> vegeta# cd /usr/share/example/cvsup
> vegeta# cvsup -g -L2 standard-supfile

Did you check the standard-supfile before using it? You may have gotten
source that you didn't think you did. In general you should copy this to a
different location and edit it first to make sure you get the right thing.

> if_em.o: In function `em_process_receive_interrupts':
> if_em.o(.text+0x47f5): undefined reference to `vlan_tag_alloc'

I think you have the wrong source.  There is no vlan_tag_alloc in that
entire file, or in the entire kernel (if fxr.watson.org is to be
believed).  Check standard-supfile, delete your compile directory, and try
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-- 
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I'm using KDE with gnupg for the encrytion tool. When a message come in that 
is signed, I get this in the email:

Message was signed with unknown key.
The validity of the signature cannot be verified.
Problem: OpenPGP plug-in was not specified.
Use the 'Settings->Configure KMail->Security' dialog to specify the plug-in or 
ask your system administrator to do that for you.

I guess what I'm asking, is what else is needed for this?
I'm assuming I'm missing this "crypto plugin". Can someone point me in a 
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-- 
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Hi

On Sun, 4 Jan 2004 01:13:13 +0000
Stacey Roberts <stacey@vickiandstacey.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>      Thanks for the reply..,
> 
> > [....]
> > 
> > chmod +s /sbin/umount /sbin/mount
> > 
> > works fine for me (without any other changes necessary). Don't know
> > if it's the recommended procedure though.
> > 
> 
> Nor I, to be honest.., I'm not sure about setting the suid bit on mount..,
> [....]

The setuid bit on mount/umount should also enable mounting/unmounting of
fixed disks, not only removeable media. Not sure if this is what you
intended at first hand...

(4:31:01) elessar@aragorn: ~> sysctl -a |grep usermount
vfs.usermount: 1
(4:31:44) elessar@aragorn: ~> id
uid=1001(elessar) gid=3000(users) groups=3000(users), 0(wheel), 5(operator), 191(trusted), 666(ssh)
(4:31:48) elessar@aragorn: ~> ll /dev/cd0c
crw-r-----  1 root  operator   15,   0 Jan  2 19:19 /dev/cd0c
(4:32:02) elessar@aragorn: ~> ll -a cdrom/
total 6
drwxr-xr-x   2 elessar  users   512 Oct 13 20:04 .
drwx------  46 elessar  users  2560 Jan  3 16:04 ..
(4:35:03) elessar@aragorn: ~> ll /sbin/mount_cd9660 
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  85812 Dec 24 11:49 /sbin/mount_cd9660
(4:35:16) elessar@aragorn: ~> mount_cd9660 /dev/cd0c cdrom/
(4:35:52) elessar@aragorn: ~> ls cdrom/
5.1-RELEASE     INSTALL.HTM     boot            compat22        floppies        src
EARLY.HTM       INSTALL.TXT     boot.catalog    compat3x        games           tools
EARLY.TXT       README.HTM      catpages        compat4x        info
ERRATA.HTM      README.TXT      cdrom.inf       crypto          manpages
ERRATA.TXT      RELNOTES.HTM    compat1x        dict            packages
HARDWARE.HTM    RELNOTES.TXT    compat20        doc             ports
HARDWARE.TXT    base            compat21        docbook.css     proflibs
(4:35:59) elessar@aragorn: ~> umount cdrom/
(4:36:07) elessar@aragorn: ~> ls cdrom/
(4:36:20) elessar@aragorn: ~> 

This is from a RELENG_5_1 machine but I never had problems with
usermount on 4.x up to 4.8 either. Did you maybe change the permissions
on /sbin?
Just a guess for I cannot see an obvious error.

Regards,
Joerg

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I just installed the ports linux_divxplayer and avifile, but neither one 
seems to do anything. What is the command to actually play a movie in 
these programs? I can't find anything remotely close.
Thanks
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On Saturday 03 January 2004 09:36 pm, Chris wrote:
> I'm using KDE with gnupg for the encrytion tool. When a message come in
> that is signed, I get this in the email:
>
> Message was signed with unknown key.
> The validity of the signature cannot be verified.
> Problem: OpenPGP plug-in was not specified.
> Use the 'Settings->Configure KMail->Security' dialog to specify the plug-in
> or ask your system administrator to do that for you.
>
> I guess what I'm asking, is what else is needed for this?
> I'm assuming I'm missing this "crypto plugin". Can someone point me in a
> direction or a site with a how-to?

Sorry about this everyone. I found what I need here:
http://kmail.kde.org/kmail-pgpmime-howto.html#kmail

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Chris

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Lowell Gilbert wrote:

>Mike Jeays <Mike.Jeays@rogers.com> writes:
>
>  
>
>>I have a Pentium 4 1.8 Ghz on an ASUS P4S533 motherboard.  FreeBSD
>>5.1 fails to install - it just hangs while probing for devices, and I
>>left it for
>>many minutes.  There is no ZIP or JAZZ drive; just an IDE disk and
>>an LG CD-RW drive.
>>
>>This machine installs and runs FreeBSD 4.7 with no problems, and the CD
>>for 5.1 has been used successfully on other machines.  Any clues, please?
>>    
>>
>
>You don't provide much information here -- particularly for an "early
>adopters only" version of the OS.
>
>Does this still occur with 5.2?
>Did the suggestions in the 5.1-RELEASE errata help?  Or even change
>  anything at all?
>
>  
>
I am not sure what else there is to post.  The machine gets to the point 
where
it says something like "Probing devices - this may take a while", and then
nothing else happens.  I read the 5.1 errata, and tried switching from APIC
to PIC, and disabling the on-board sound card, but this made no difference.

Thanks for the reply.

Here is the dmesg output, using 4.7:

101 /usr/home/mike$ dmesg
Copyright (c) 1992-2002 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
        The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE #1: Wed Jan  1 21:41:02 EST 2003
    mike@chaucer:/usr/src/sys/compile/CHAUCER
Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
CPU: Pentium 4 (1816.18-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0xf24  Stepping = 4
Features=0x3febfbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,<b28>,ACC>
real memory  = 536854528 (524272K bytes)
avail memory = 517021696 (504904K bytes)
Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0534000.
Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled
md0: Malloc disk
Using $PIR table, 10 entries at 0xc00f1b20
npx0: <math processor> on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
pcib0: <Host to PCI bridge> on motherboard
pci0: <PCI bus> on pcib0
pcib2: <PCI to PCI bridge (vendor=1039 device=0001)> at device 1.0 on pci0
pci1: <PCI bus> on pcib2
pci1: <NVidia model 0171 graphics accelerator> at 0.0 irq 3
isab0: <PCI to ISA bridge (vendor=1039 device=0961)> at device 2.0 on pci0
isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0
ohci0: <SiS 5571 USB controller> mem 0xe6800000-0xe6800fff irq 11 at 
device 2.2 on pci0
usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support
usb0: <SiS 5571 USB controller> on ohci0
usb0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0: SiS OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered
ohci1: <SiS 5571 USB controller> mem 0xe6000000-0xe6000fff irq 10 at 
device 2.3 on pci0
usb1: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support
usb1: <SiS 5571 USB controller> on ohci1
usb1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1: SiS OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub1: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered
atapci0: <SiS 5591 ATA33 controller> port 0xd800-0xd80f at device 2.5 on 
pci0
ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0
pcm0: <CMedia CMI8738> port 0xa800-0xa8ff irq 5 at device 5.0 on pci0
rl0: <RealTek 8139 10/100BaseTX> port 0xa400-0xa4ff mem 
0xe5000000-0xe50000ff irq 7 at device 10.0 on pci0
rl0: Ethernet address: 00:50:fc:72:7b:74
miibus0: <MII bus> on rl0
rlphy0: <RealTek internal media interface> on miibus0
rlphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
sio0: <3COM PCI FaxModem> port 0xa000-0xa007 irq 9 at device 11.0 on pci0
sio0: moving to sio4
sio4: type 16550A
pcib1: <SiS 5591 host to AGP bridge> on motherboard
pci2: <PCI bus> on pcib1
fdc0: <NEC 72065B or clone> at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0
fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0
atkbdc0: <Keyboard controller (i8042)> at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0
atkbd0: <AT Keyboard> flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0
kbd0 at atkbd0
psm0: <PS/2 Mouse> irq 12 on atkbdc0
psm0: model IntelliMouse, device ID 3
vga0: <Generic ISA VGA> at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0
sc0: <System console> at flags 0x100 on isa0
sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300>
sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
sio0: type 16550A
sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
ppc0: <Parallel port> at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0
ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/16 bytes threshold
plip0: <PLIP network interface> on ppbus0
lpt0: <Printer> on ppbus0
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
ppi0: <Parallel I/O> on ppbus0
ad0: 38172MB <MAXTOR 6L040J2> [77557/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA33
acd0: CD-RW <HL-DT-ST GCE-8320B> at ata1-master PIO4
Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a
102 /usr/home/mike$




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Now I installed mplayer. The man pages shows gmplayer as a gui version 
of mplayer. When I enter gmplayer I get command not found. Mplayer works 
otherwise. I see a port for skins for the gui, but no port for the gui 
itself. Am I missing something here?
thanks
Chip

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Hello,
     Thanks for the kind reply..,

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Subject: Re: Mount /cdrom as non-root user - does this actually work for anyone?

> Hi
> 
> On Sun, 4 Jan 2004 01:13:13 +0000
> Stacey Roberts <stacey@vickiandstacey.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> >      Thanks for the reply..,
> > 
> > > [....]
> > > 
> > > chmod +s /sbin/umount /sbin/mount
> > > 
> > > works fine for me (without any other changes necessary). Don't know
> > > if it's the recommended procedure though.
> > > 
> > 
> > Nor I, to be honest.., I'm not sure about setting the suid bit on mount..,
> > [....]
> 
> The setuid bit on mount/umount should also enable mounting/unmounting of
> fixed disks, not only removeable media. Not sure if this is what you
> intended at first hand...
> 

Well., what I intended is to follow the instructions as laid out in the HandBook - which isn't working for me.

> (4:31:01) elessar@aragorn: ~> sysctl -a |grep usermount
> vfs.usermount: 1
> (4:31:44) elessar@aragorn: ~> id
> uid=1001(elessar) gid=3000(users) groups=3000(users), 0(wheel), 5(operator), 191(trusted), 666(ssh)
> (4:31:48) elessar@aragorn: ~> ll /dev/cd0c
> crw-r-----  1 root  operator   15,   0 Jan  2 19:19 /dev/cd0c
> (4:32:02) elessar@aragorn: ~> ll -a cdrom/
> total 6
> drwxr-xr-x   2 elessar  users   512 Oct 13 20:04 .
> drwx------  46 elessar  users  2560 Jan  3 16:04 ..
> (4:35:03) elessar@aragorn: ~> ll /sbin/mount_cd9660 
> -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  85812 Dec 24 11:49 /sbin/mount_cd9660
> (4:35:16) elessar@aragorn: ~> mount_cd9660 /dev/cd0c cdrom/
> (4:35:52) elessar@aragorn: ~> ls cdrom/
> 5.1-RELEASE     INSTALL.HTM     boot            compat22        floppies        src
> EARLY.HTM       INSTALL.TXT     boot.catalog    compat3x        games           tools
> EARLY.TXT       README.HTM      catpages        compat4x        info
> ERRATA.HTM      README.TXT      cdrom.inf       crypto          manpages
> ERRATA.TXT      RELNOTES.HTM    compat1x        dict            packages
> HARDWARE.HTM    RELNOTES.TXT    compat20        doc             ports
> HARDWARE.TXT    base            compat21        docbook.css     proflibs
> (4:35:59) elessar@aragorn: ~> umount cdrom/
> (4:36:07) elessar@aragorn: ~> ls cdrom/
> (4:36:20) elessar@aragorn: ~> 
> 
> This is from a RELENG_5_1 machine but I never had problems with
> usermount on 4.x up to 4.8 either. Did you maybe change the permissions
> on /sbin?

I haven't touched anything to do with the cdrom devices on *any* of the machines here, nor have I ever had any cause to edit the permissions on any of the bin dirs.., Please understand my position here.., I don't *ever* stray away from standard installations, application configs, etc.., For the very reason that you have asked about "whether or not I've changed something"., Everything on this system is as stock as can be.., barring the userland appliacations for Gnome-2.4

Thanks again for the reply.

Regards,


Stacey

> Just a guess for I cannot see an obvious error.
> 
> Regards,
> Joerg



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On Sat, 2004-01-03 at 23:13, chip wrote:
> Now I installed mplayer. The man pages shows gmplayer as a gui version 
> of mplayer. When I enter gmplayer I get command not found. Mplayer works 
> otherwise. I see a port for skins for the gui, but no port for the gui 
> itself. Am I missing something here?
> thanks
> Chip
> 

Chip, use the WITH_GUI knob when you build mplayer and gmplayer will be
built.  This fill force gtk12 to be installed if it isn't already.

Tom

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Subhro,

I have done this and tried another command that would spew some data 
and the machine crashed again. Any more ideas why the sshd process 
would be choking and crashing the server?

I cant send you an example as I am locked out. Looks like sshd is not 
starting after the new port install described below.


Regards

Will

On Jan 3, 2004, at 1:09 PM, Subhro wrote:

> Hey Will,
> The original SSH shipped with the base system is actually a scaled down
> version. Check out /usr/ports/security/openssh-portable. Compile the 
> above
> port with option -DOPENSSH_OVERWRITE_BASE and also include
> -DWITHOUT_KERBEROS if you do not need the Kerberos Authentication. 
> This will
> overwrite the base SSH system with an OpenSSH version specifically 
> ported to
> FreeBSD. Also I would like to know the contents of CFLAGS in 
> /etc/make.conf.
> Make a note that after every "make world" you would have to clean and
> reinstall the port with
>
> make install -DOPENSSH_OVERWRITE_BASE -DWITHOUT_KERBEROS
>
> Cheers!
>
> Subhro
>
> -----Original Message-----
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>
> On Jan 2, 2004, at 3:36 PM, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
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>> Will Prater <lists-wp@mercurycloud.net> writes:
>>
>>> List,
>>>
>>> sshd seems to be crashing my server. I am looking for any help
>>> regarding why this could be happening. I am running sshd version
>>> OpenSSH_3.6.1. Here is the output from dmesg:
>>>
>>> the machine crashed every time when running
>>>
>>> #ipfw show
>>> or
>>> #dmesg -a
>>>
>>> for example and will crash when part way through the listing. Any
>>> ideas??
>>>
>>> ----
>>> Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
>>> fault virtual address   = 0x0
>>> fault code              = supervisor read, page not present
>>> instruction pointer     = 0x8:0xc023c52a
>>> stack pointer           = 0x10:0xd9ff6bbc
>>> frame pointer           = 0x10:0xd9ff6be4
>>> code segment            = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b
>>>                          = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
>>> processor eflags        = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0
>>> current process         = 394 (sshd)
>>> interrupt mask          = net tty
>>> trap number             = 12
>>> panic: page fault
>>
>> 1) What version of FreeBSD?
>
> 4.9 RELEASE
>
>> 2) How did you install that version of OpenSSH?
>
> I have tried the one from the ports and the pre-installed version.
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
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Tried to install ImageMagic on a FreeBSD 4.9 box, but 'make' fails with the
following error message:

jp2.c:778: `JAS_IMAGE_CT_OPACITY' undeclared (first use in this function)
gmake[1]: *** [jp2.lo] Error 1
gmake[1]: Leaving directory
`/usr/ports/graphics/ImageMagick/work/ImageMagick-5.5.7/coders'
gmake: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
*** Error code 2

Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/ImageMagick.

Any clues?  Thanks,

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On Sat, 2004-01-03 at 20:13, Stacey Roberts wrote:
> Hello,
>      Thanks for the reply..,
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gautam Gopalakrishnan <ggop@madras.dyndns.org>"
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> Date: Sun, 04 Jan, 2004 00:59 GMT
> Subject: Re: Mount /cdrom as non-root user - does this actually work for anyone?
> 
> > On Sun, Jan 04, 2004 at 12:53:52AM +0000, Stacey Roberts wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > As root I can mount and read the CD fine.., checking for non-root user:
> > > exit
> > > ~ $ mount /cdrom
> > > cd9660: /dev/acd0c: Operation not permitted
> > > ~ $ mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0c ~/cdrom
> > > cd9660: /dev/acd0c: Operation not permitted
> > > ~ $
> > > 
> > > Attempting to mount to mount-point in user home dir:
> > > ~ $ cd ~
> > > ~ $ pwd
> > > /home/stacey
> > > ~ $ ls -ltra cdrom
> > > total 6
> > > drwxr-xr-x 2 stacey stacey 512 Jan 3 23:50 ./
> > > drwxr-xr-x 31 stacey stacey 2560 Jan 3 23:50 ../
> > > ~ $ mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0c ~/cdrom
> > > cd9660: /dev/acd0c: Operation not permitted
> > > ~ $
> > 
> > chmod +s /sbin/umount /sbin/mount
> > 
> > works fine for me (without any other changes necessary). Don't know
> > if it's the recommended procedure though.
> > 
> 
> Nor I, to be honest.., I'm not sure about setting the suid bit on mount.., Given that the HandBook provides what I thought would have been straight-forward instructions on what (presumably) is I hoped is a simple procedure.., I'd not want to start making undocumented config changes.
> 
> Thanks all the same for taking the time to respond.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Stacey
> 
> > Gautam
> > 

Stacey, what are permissions of /dev/acd0c?  The handbook example
changes the permissions of a SCSI cdrom.  I made the mistake of not
noticing this when I first tried to do make my cdrom user mountable.

Tom

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the following howto comes from a post on bsdforums.org. I used it and it 
worked well.

#cd /usr/ports/multimedia/mplayer
#make WITHOUT_RUNTIME_CPUDETECTION=yes WITH_GUI=yes WITH_FREETYPE=yes 
WITH_XVID=yes WITH_DVD=yes WITH_SVGALIB=yes WITH_MAD=yes WITH_AALIB=yes 
WITH_SDL=yes WITH_VORBIS=yes WITH_REALPLAYER=yes WITH_LIVEMEDIA=yes 
WITH_FAAD=yes WITH_XMMS=yes install clean

most of the options above have flags autodetect so if you have some of 
the above then you can skip it

6. DO NOT RUN MPLAYER yet
7. install fonts
#cd /usr/ports/multimedia/mplayer-fonts
#make install clean
(select 8859-1)
8. configure mplayer for user:
as a user (not root)
#cd /usr/ports/multimedia/mplayer
#make install-user
9. next copy following files to ~/.mplayer
#cp /usr/local/share/mplayer/codecs.conf ~/.mplayer/
#cp /usr/local/share/mplayer/example.conf ~/.mplayer/config
#cp /usr/local/share/mplayer/input.conf ~/.mplayer
10. fINAL STEPS FOR USER CONFIG
#cd ~/.mplayer
create directory for skins
#mkdir Skin (THIS IS THE NAME OF DIR DONT MAKE ANY OTHER)
11. download mplayer skins from http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/dload.html
12. unpack skins to the directory you created ~/.mplayer/Skin
you shoud download also default skin
13. make sure that these lines in ~/.mplayer/config file are uncommented:
vo=xv
fs=yes   # maybe not required !!!

comment out the following line at the end of ~/.mplayer/config file:
#include = /home/gabucino/.mplayer/i_did_not_RTFM_carefully_enough...

Alternative way to get skins (did not work for me sometime ago, never 
tested after that): built the skins from ports
14. you are almost done
15. run
#gmplayer

extra stuff
16. Install mplayer-plugin for mozilla from /usr/ports/www/mplayer-plugin

this will allow you to play quicktime movies from mozilla
test for mozilla plugin:
http://www.apple.com/trailers/newli..._towers-teaser/
select small from watch it now panel (small loads faster) you should see 
and hear trailer.
There is no plugin for realplayer so *rm file will invoke it as separate 
instance
except downloading realplayer to ../.../distfiles you do not need to get 
or install anything before mplayer.
Test realplayer alone to see if it works (for me it does).
You will be also able to listen WMP streaming files (mozilla should open 
small extra window - empty), and watch DVD

Dany

Tom McLaughlin wrote:

>On Sat, 2004-01-03 at 23:13, chip wrote:
>  
>
>>Now I installed mplayer. The man pages shows gmplayer as a gui version 
>>of mplayer. When I enter gmplayer I get command not found. Mplayer works 
>>otherwise. I see a port for skins for the gui, but no port for the gui 
>>itself. Am I missing something here?
>>thanks
>>Chip
>>
>>    
>>
>
>Chip, use the WITH_GUI knob when you build mplayer and gmplayer will be
>built.  This fill force gtk12 to be installed if it isn't already.
>
>Tom
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is it possible to write CDs with a DVD writer on -STABLE usind 'burncd'?

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bash-2.05a# burncd -f/dev/acd1c -s4 blank data /tmp/frenzy_v02_release.iso fixate
blanking CD - 100 % done
next writeable LBA 0
writing from file /tmp/frenzy_v02_release.iso size 196832 KB
written this track 832 KB (0%) total 832 KB
only wrote -1 of 32768 bytes err=16

fixating CD, please wait..
---
no kern.* messages

Is it because my DVD+-RW is not ATAPI CD-RW compatible? Everything works
well with 'cdrecord'.

acd1: <ASUS DRW-0402P/D/1.05> DVD-R drive at ata1 as slave
acd1: read 5511KB/s (3021KB/s) write 688KB/s (688KB/s), 2000KB buffer, PIO4
acd1: Reads: CD-R, CD-RW, CD-DA stream, DVD-ROM, DVD-R, packet
acd1: Writes: CD-R, CD-RW, DVD-R, test write, burnproof
acd1: Audio: play, 256 volume levels
acd1: Mechanism: ejectable tray, unlocked
acd1: Medium: CD-RW 120mm data disc
acd0: success setting WDMA2 on Intel chip
acd1: success setting UDMA2 on Intel chip

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