From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 00:09:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E797116A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 00:09:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from www.cray1.de (i.would.like.to.spoof.my.realip.de [64.27.85.120]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F9B143D48 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 00:09:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ubm@u-boot-man.de) Received: from greatsheep.marines (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.cray1.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA13686 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 02:08:56 +0200 Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 02:08:56 +0200 From: Marc "UBM" Bocklet To: questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20040613020856.7d3ece6d.ubm@u-boot-man.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.11 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.2.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: 40GB harddisk on Creative Soundblaster AWE32 / wavetable/midi support for AWE32? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 00:09:33 -0000 Hiho! :-) Yesterday I installed an old Creative Soundblaster AWE32 ISA in my computer. During boot I noticed that the ata(4) driver attached to the onboard (cdrom) ide-controller. So I got curious and hooked up my new dvd-drive (Toshiba M1712) . Worked like a charm (PIO4 only, of course :-)). Then I got *really* curious and hooked up my Maxtor 40GB disk to the ide-controller, thinking: "this will never ever work". 3 minutes later, I saw, much to my surprise, that it *worked*. The drive was recognized during boot, I could mount my fat32 partitions and got a transfer rate of about 3,3mb/s from the drive. First of all, thanks to Soren, whose great ata driver made that experiment possible. :-) Second, can anybody explain *why* it worked? Creative (and Google) claim that the ide-controller supports cdroms (atapi) only and even if that is wrong, why does it recognize my 40gb drive (the card was made in 1994)? Third, is there any driver that supports the Wavetable/Midi part of the AWE32? :-) I'm running FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE-p8. Thanks in advance! :-) Bye Marc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 00:49:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A75D416A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 00:49:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from internet.potentialtech.com (h-66-167-251-6.phlapafg.covad.net [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50F2A43D2F for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 00:49:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from working.potentialtech.com (pa-plum1c-102.pit.adelphia.net [24.53.179.102]) by internet.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CCB669A71 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2004 20:49:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 20:49:26 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20040612204926.77c41aea.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <1087062144.3487.7.camel@localhost> References: <1087062144.3487.7.camel@localhost> Organization: Potential Technologies X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.10 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.9) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: aix X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 00:49:53 -0000 arden wrote: > hi all > > my company is sending me on an aix/rs6000 course next month Ive been > using Linux as my main OS for 2 years (thats when M$ went for good from > my home :) )and been "playing" with BSD for about 6 months > > are there any fundamental differences i should be aware of before > admitting any knowledge of *nix It really depends on what you're going to admit knowledge of, as far as I can see. If you're going to claim that you know your way around a command line, and understand the core concepts of Unix, as well as the fundamentals of admining a Unix system. And if you're going to say that you've been using Linux and FreeBSD for a certain length of time, I think you'll be in a good place. You may be surprised at how AIX behaves on a low level, though. Like if you start looking through it's sysctls (does AIX have sysctls?) or if you peruse the /etc directory to see how things get started at boot time. -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 02:21:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C87F116A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 02:21:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-04-eri0.ohiordc.rr.com (ms-smtp-04-smtplb.ohiordc.rr.com [65.24.5.138]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E464843D49 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 02:21:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmehler26@woh.rr.com) Received: from satellite (cpe-69-135-236-238.woh.rr.com [69.135.236.238]) i5D2LQbc024344 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2004 22:21:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000501c450eb$d9ab5f00$6400a8c0@satellite> From: "dave" To: Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 22:12:16 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: ipfilter allowing samba X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 02:21:53 -0000 Hi, Need to know how to enable ipfilter to allow samba in. I've got a box that has two interfaces on it. I need to have ipfilter allow samba in on ed0, am not sure how to do this without dropping the firewall, which is not an option. Any help appreciated. This is only from the local network, not the net. Thanks. Dave. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 02:57:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D13CD16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 02:57:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from GWIA01.sftp.com (mail.sftp.com [65.243.46.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 442F943D2F for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 02:57:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bSawyer@sftp.com) Received: from mail.sftp.com ([192.10.2.3]) by GWIA01.sftp.com; Sat, 12 Jun 2004 22:03:14 -0500 Received: from SF_Mail-Message_Server by mail.sftp.com with Novell_GroupWise; Sat, 12 Jun 2004 21:55:16 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.5 Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 21:55:11 -0500 From: "Bill Sawyer" To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: ipfilter allowing samba X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 02:57:30 -0000 Hey Dave, You need to allow exceptions in ipfilter for ports 137 to 139. The = following rules should work: pass in quick on ed0 proto tcp from 192.168.0.0/16 to 192.168.0.1/32 port = =3D 137 keep state pass in quick on ed0 proto tcp from 192.168.0.0/16 to 192.168.0.1/32 port = =3D 138 keep state pass in quick on ed0 proto tcp from 192.168.0.0/16 to 192.168.0.1/32 port = =3D 139 keep state Where 192.168.0.0 is your network and 192.168.0.1 is your server IP. Cheers, Bill Sawyer Information Systems Six Flags St. Louis (636) 938-5300 x. 231 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 03:01:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8627C16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 03:01:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.ohiordc.rr.com (ms-smtp-01-smtplb.ohiordc.rr.com [65.24.5.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93B7243D46 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 03:01:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmehler26@woh.rr.com) Received: from satellite (cpe-69-135-236-238.woh.rr.com [69.135.236.238]) i5D315vJ025006 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2004 23:01:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000501c450f1$6360b880$6400a8c0@satellite> From: "dave" To: Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 22:51:55 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: apache2 port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 03:01:28 -0000 Hello, I've got a 5.2.1 machine that has the latest apache on it via ports. Instead of translating my index.html file i am getting a directory listing vs. the page. Like instead of seeing the html home, favorites, and so forth on this page, i'm basically given a directory listing. Any ideas? Thanks. Dave. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 03:23:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 578A216A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 03:23:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FDFB43D58 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 03:23:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) id i5D3LeNs035396; Sat, 12 Jun 2004 22:21:40 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 22:21:40 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Chris Message-ID: <20040613032140.GA94119@dan.emsphone.com> References: <200406120750460729.2E42D6A3@coolarrow.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200406120750460729.2E42D6A3@coolarrow.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.2-CURRENT X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: swap size and zombie X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 03:23:39 -0000 In the last episode (Jun 12), Chris said: > Looking at a web/email server with the following from "top" ... > > last pid: 29494; load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 up 85+12:33:05 23:07:44 > 39 processes: 1 running, 37 sleeping, 1 zombie > CPU states: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 100% idle > Mem: 197M Active, 545M Inact, 176M Wired, 51M Cache, 112M Buf, 33M Free > Swap: 2048M Total, 184K Used, 2048M Free > > Does it look like the swap file is way too big? The box has been > online for awhile, yet it seems like the swap file is not utilized > very much at all. For that matter, the server is clearly overpowered > for what it does, but better than underpowered I suppose. Sysinstall defaults to creating a swap partition that is 2x RAM, but for large-memory systems it's usually overkill (do you really plan on running 3gb worth of processes in a 1gb system?). 1x RAM is the minimum if you want to be able to save kernel crashdumps though, so it may be useful if you ever double the RAM in the box. > Also, I cannot seem to get rid of that zombie... it happens at boot time: > > root 0 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?? ZW - 0:00.00 (perl) Run ps axl, find the parent process (PPID column), and fix the bug in it :) -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 03:34:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73C4316A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 03:34:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from twinlark.arctic.org (twinlark.arctic.org [168.75.98.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4355843D31 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 03:34:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atk2@arctic.org) Received: (qmail 11427 invoked by uid 1347); 13 Jun 2004 03:33:55 -0000 Date: 13 Jun 2004 03:33:55 -0000 Message-ID: <20040613033355.11426.qmail@twinlark.arctic.org> From: atk2@arctic.org To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: problem building /usr//ports/x11-fonts/fontconfig X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 03:34:43 -0000 Bleh - i tried upgrading from freebsd 4.5 to 4.10 and now I'm having this problem: cfreetype.lo fcfreetype.c: In function `FcFreeTypeQuery': fcfreetype.c:280: syntax error before `psfontinfo' fcfreetype.c:739: `psfontinfo' undeclared (first use in this function) fcfreetype.c:739: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once fcfreetype.c:739: for each function it appears in.) gmake[2]: *** [fcfreetype.lo] Error 1 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/f/ports/x11-fonts/fontconfig/work/fontconfig-2.2.2/src' gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/f/ports/x11-fonts/fontconfig/work/fontconfig-2.2.2' gmake: *** [all] Error 2 I did upgrade XFree86 to latest version in an attempt to fix this problem (I presume it is related to some library not being up to date - but I would also assume the dependencies would catch that)... Oh well any suggestions ? Alan . From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 03:35:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7C4016A4D0 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 03:35:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A14243D1D for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 03:35:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) id i5D3YPl1063904; Sat, 12 Jun 2004 22:34:25 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 22:34:24 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: arden Message-ID: <20040613033424.GB94119@dan.emsphone.com> References: <1087062144.3487.7.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1087062144.3487.7.camel@localhost> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.2-CURRENT X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: aix X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 03:35:11 -0000 In the last episode (Jun 12), arden said: > my company is sending me on an aix/rs6000 course next month Ive been > using Linux as my main OS for 2 years (thats when M$ went for good > from my home :) )and been "playing" with BSD for about 6 months > > are there any fundamental differences i should be aware of before > admitting any knowledge of *nix AIX feels sort of like Microsoft's "Windows Services for UNIX" package from my perspective. Most of the commands you will want to use work, but they're sort of on top of something that's not standard Unix at all. It doesn't use syslog, for example; it uses a binary log you must run "errpt" to read. Memory management is difficult to tune as well (and you will need to tune it almost immediately). There's an rc.d directory, but it's only used for 3rd-party apps; none of the AIX packages use it. After using AIX, I realize why IBM is pushing Linux so much. In other words, Unix knowledge will help, but not as much as it might for other Unix-like systems. Pay attention at the course :) -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 04:42:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 680EA16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 04:42:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from northwindcom.dyndns.org (135-203-237-24.gci.net [24.237.203.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C39043D54 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 04:42:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from akbeech@northwindcom.dyndns.org) Received: from localhost.dyndns.org (localhost.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) by northwindcom.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DF2F2628 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2004 20:41:12 -0800 (AKDT) From: Beecher Rintoul Organization: NorthWind Communications To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 20:41:10 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200406122041.11005.akbeech@northwindcom.dyndns.org> Subject: Nearly 2.5 Million Active Sites running FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: akbeech@northwindcom.dyndns.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 04:42:45 -0000 Ran across this on Netcraft: http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2004/06/07/nearly_25_million_active_sites_running_freebsd.html Good job people! Beech -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Beech Rintoul - System Administrator - akbeech@northwindcom.dyndns.org /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | NorthWind Communications \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | 201 East 9th Avenue Ste.310 X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Anchorage, AK 99501 / \ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 04:57:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42A0D16A4D0 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 04:57:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from northwindcom.dyndns.org (135-203-237-24.gci.net [24.237.203.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AF6143D1F for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 04:57:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from akbeech@northwindcom.dyndns.org) Received: from localhost.dyndns.org (localhost.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) by nova.northwindcom.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 458D9262F for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2004 20:31:56 -0800 (AKDT) From: Beecher Rintoul Organization: NorthWind Communications To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 20:31:55 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200406122031.55134.akbeech@northwindcom.dyndns.org> Subject: Nearly 2.5 Million Active Sites running FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: akbeech@northwindcom.dyndns.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 04:57:33 -0000 Ran across this on Netcraft: http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2004/06/07/nearly_25_million_active_sites_running_freebsd.html Good job people! Beech -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Beech Rintoul - System Administrator - akbeech@northwindcom.dyndns.org /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | NorthWind Communications \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | 201 East 9th Avenue Ste.310 X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Anchorage, AK 99501 / \ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 06:26:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40A1116A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 06:26:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay15-f36.bay15.hotmail.com [65.54.185.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DA0243D1F for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 06:26:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lascar_me@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 12 Jun 2004 23:24:11 -0700 Received: from 200.4.253.112 by by15fd.bay15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 06:24:10 GMT X-Originating-IP: [200.4.253.112] X-Originating-Email: [lascar_me@hotmail.com] X-Sender: lascar_me@hotmail.com From: "Jorge L. Valenzuela" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 06:24:10 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Jun 2004 06:24:11.0015 (UTC) FILETIME=[0A2AC170:01C4510F] Subject: about the installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 06:26:22 -0000 Hi I'd like to try the freebsd on my computer. I've three partitions, the first has win98, the second win2000 and I use the last one as a data disk. I don't care about my win98 O/S, but I don't know what will happend, if I install the freeBSD, with my win2000 cuz I need it to work. This is my question: I'm always asked for the O/S to use at the start. If I delete my win98 partitiion will I be asked to use the FreeBSD or win2000 O/S? Do I need to reinstall the win2000 after installing the freeBSD? Thanks, Jorge Valenzuela _________________________________________________________________ Stop worrying about overloading your inbox - get MSN Hotmail Extra Storage! http://join.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200362ave/direct/01/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 06:29:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17EEA16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 06:29:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from grog.secure-computing.net (grog.secure-computing.net [63.228.14.241]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9522D43D39 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 06:29:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) Received: from Nomad (nat-server.secure-computing.net [63.228.14.245]) i5D6RlkZ067941; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 01:27:48 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) From: "Eric Crist" To: "'dave'" , Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 01:26:13 -0500 Message-ID: <000e01c4510f$540e2930$6401a8c0@Nomad> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 In-Reply-To: <000501c450f1$6360b880$6400a8c0@satellite> Importance: Normal Subject: RE: apache2 port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 06:29:33 -0000 Check your DirectoryIndex directive within your configuration file. Often times, your index.html file in the root directory of your webserver isn't recognized. Iirc, apache2 is preconfigured for index.htm, and not index.html. Try renaming your index.* file to a couple different things, and check out that directive. HTH Eric F Crist President AdTech Integrated Systems, Inc (612) 998-3588 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of dave > Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 9:52 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: apache2 port > > > Hello, > I've got a 5.2.1 machine that has the latest apache on it via > ports. Instead of translating my index.html file i am getting > a directory listing vs. the page. Like instead of seeing the > html home, favorites, and so forth on this page, i'm > basically given a directory listing. Any ideas? Thanks. Dave. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/free> bsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 06:31:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A70C16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 06:31:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from grog.secure-computing.net (grog.secure-computing.net [63.228.14.241]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4C8743D39 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 06:31:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) Received: from Nomad (nat-server.secure-computing.net [63.228.14.245]) i5D6UERG067955; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 01:30:14 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) From: "Eric Crist" To: "'Jorge L. Valenzuela'" , Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 01:28:19 -0500 Message-ID: <000f01c4510f$9e84f750$6401a8c0@Nomad> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Subject: RE: about the installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 06:31:49 -0000 Generally what happens on an install, if you select to install the freebsd boot loader, is that you'll get a menu upon boot that looks similar to: F1 ?? F2 Disk 1 Pressing F1 will boot Windows 2000 (or XP) and pressing F2 will show a menu such as: F1 FreeBSD F2 Disk 0 These menus will just go back and forth if you keep pressing F2. You should not need to install Windows 2000 again. Just make sure you don't delete that partition. HTH Eric F Crist President AdTech Integrated Systems, Inc (612) 998-3588 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of > Jorge L. Valenzuela > Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 1:24 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: about the installation > > > Hi > > I'd like to try the freebsd on my computer. I've three > partitions, the first > has win98, the second win2000 and I use the last one as a > data disk. I don't > care about my win98 O/S, but I don't know what will happend, > if I install > the freeBSD, with my win2000 cuz I need it to work. > > This is my question: > I'm always asked for the O/S to use at the start. If I delete > my win98 > partitiion will I be asked to use the FreeBSD or win2000 O/S? > > Do I need to reinstall the win2000 after installing the freeBSD? > > Thanks, > > Jorge Valenzuela > > _________________________________________________________________ > Stop worrying about overloading your inbox - get MSN Hotmail > Extra Storage! > http://join.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200362ave/direct/01/ > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/free> bsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 06:43:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D4DE16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 06:43:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from priv-edtnes87.telusplanet.net (defout.telus.net [199.185.220.240]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2758343D2F for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 06:43:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from graham.north@telus.net) Received: from phoenix ([142.173.17.246]) by priv-edtnes87.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.6.01.03.02 201-2131-111-104-20040324) with ESMTP id <20040613064129.ZMOZ15734.priv-edtnes87.telusplanet.net@phoenix>; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 00:41:29 -0600 Message-ID: <002201c45111$801acb30$627ba8c0@phoenix> From: "Graham North" To: , Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 23:41:47 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: robert@irrelevant.com cc: "Fong, Nicholas" Subject: Pruning the Ports Tree X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 06:43:28 -0000 Is it alright to prune the Ports tree - and still do updates later. I am running 4.8 stable and recently did a full Ports tree update using = CVSUP. This generates several questions. 1) I took the advice of Michael Urban's book and upgraded from the = "Head" of the source tree rather than from that for 4.8 - did I really = want to do that? Does it matter for a Ports only updating? 2) The tree is getting pretty big - result, lots of files. My hard = drive is not very big - it is down to a few hundred inodes (file = handles) within the usr directory. Can I prune the tree on my hard = drive without compromising future updates? If it helps, my machine is = not using X only command mode so there are lots of Ports that will never = be made. Thanks for any help that can be offered. Graham/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 07:05:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB3F816A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 07:05:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [208.162.254.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A7E243D31 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 07:05:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from pooh.strauser.com (pooh.honeypot.net [10.0.5.128]) by kanga.honeypot.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i5D72lst038670 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 02:02:48 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Kirk Strauser Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 02:02:44 -0500 Message-ID: <87acz8ndnv.fsf@strauser.com> Lines: 47 X-Mailer: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040612, clamav-milter version 0.72a on kanga.honeypot.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Weird processes after upgrading to apache2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 07:05:15 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just started a trial switch to Apache 2 (from ports synched as of yesterday morning). It's going well for the most part, but I'm finding a few little weird things. For example, when I first start the server, "ps" returns a normal-looking list: # ps axw |grep httpd 38308 ?? Ss 0:00.40 /usr/local/sbin/httpd -DSSL 38309 ?? R 0:00.06 /usr/local/sbin/httpd -DSSL 38310 ?? R 0:00.04 /usr/local/sbin/httpd -DSSL 38311 ?? S 0:00.06 /usr/local/sbin/httpd -DSSL 38312 ?? R 0:00.04 /usr/local/sbin/httpd -DSSL 38313 ?? R 0:00.04 /usr/local/sbin/httpd -DSSL Every time a guest visits a page being host with mod_perl, the name of one of those processes gets changed to "-e" as below: # ps axw |grep httpd 38308 ?? Ss 0:00.40 /usr/local/sbin/httpd -DSSL 38309 ?? S 0:00.51 -e (httpd) 38310 ?? S 0:00.51 -e (httpd) 38311 ?? S 0:01.57 -e (httpd) 38312 ?? S 0:00.50 -e (httpd) 38313 ?? S 0:00.90 -e (httpd) 38316 ?? S 0:00.77 -e (httpd) 38394 p2 S+ 0:00.00 grep httpd Also, the daemons don't like to restart nicely: # apachectl graceful Syntax error on line 320 of /usr/local/etc/apache2/virtual-hosts.conf: Invalid command 'SSLEngine', perhaps mis-spelled or defined by a module= not included in the server configuration Those are the exact symptoms seen when httpd is run without the "-DSSL" argument. In other words, my little daemons seem to forget their name and their arguments after they've started. Note that despite the warning, the daemons seem to have been successfully restarted (to the best of my knowledge). Is anyone else seeing these little peculiarities or am I the lucky one? =2D-=20 Kirk Strauser "94 outdated ports on the box, 94 outdated ports. Portupgrade one, an hour 'til done, 82 outdated ports on the box." --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBAy/wX5sRg+Y0CpvERAjmaAJ9fCGbL3L8AonqG+iXD9MLa9OMVGACfQKV4 PrlYciWPwum5YBwiMceIrRM= =13OL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 07:11:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A91A16A4CE; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 07:11:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org (nezlok.unixathome.org [66.154.97.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81A2A43D4C; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 07:11:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@nezlok.unixathome.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06CE8AE056; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 00:10:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (nezlok.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 61308-03; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 00:10:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 778B5AE044; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 00:10:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20040613071004.778B5AE044@nezlok.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 00:10:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at unixathome.org Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2004-05-23 - 2004-06-12 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 07:11:38 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. 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Processed in 0.529852 secs); 13 Jun 2004 08:31:51 -0000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 Received: from unknown (HELO reverse-213-146-114-24.dialin.kamp-dsl.de) (213.146.114.24) by dsl-mail.kamp.net with SMTP; 13 Jun 2004 08:31:50 -0000 Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 10:29:12 +0200 (CEST) From: Peter Ulrich Kruppa X-X-Sender: root@pukruppa.net To: Graham North In-Reply-To: <002201c45111$801acb30$627ba8c0@phoenix> Message-ID: <20040613101323.Q2197@pukruppa.net> References: <002201c45111$801acb30$627ba8c0@phoenix> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Pruning the Ports Tree X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 08:36:46 -0000 On Sat, 12 Jun 2004, Graham North wrote: > Is it alright to prune the Ports tree - and still do updates later. > > I am running 4.8 stable and recently did a full Ports tree > update using CVSUP. This generates several questions. 1) I > took the advice of Michael Urban's book and upgraded from the > "Head" of the source tree rather than from that for 4.8 - did I > really want to do that? Does it matter for a Ports only > updating? It is recommended to use the appropriate kernel and base system with your ports. Things might work the way you did it, or (probably) not. 2) The tree is getting pretty big - result, lots of > files. My hard drive is not very big - it is down to a few > hundred inodes (file handles) within the usr directory. Can I > prune the tree on my hard drive without compromising future > updates? If it helps, my machine is not using X only command > mode so there are lots of Ports that will never be made. For further advices it would be helpful to know how big your hd is and how much diskspace is used by your ports tree. You can check the latter by # du -h -d 1 (see # man du) Regards, Uli. > Thanks for any help that can be offered. > > Graham/ > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > +---------------------------+ | Peter Ulrich Kruppa | | Wuppertal | | Germany | +---------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 09:09:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC73E16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 09:09:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12D7443D48 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 09:09:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) i5D98PuO080309 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 13 Jun 2004 10:08:26 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)id i5D98MEO080304; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 10:08:22 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 10:08:22 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: Graham North Message-ID: <20040613090822.GB75168@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , Graham North , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, tim@typhoon.techvalley.ca, robert@irrelevant.com, "Fong, Nicholas" References: <002201c45111$801acb30$627ba8c0@phoenix> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="b5gNqxB1S1yM7hjW" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <002201c45111$801acb30$627ba8c0@phoenix> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Greylist: Message not sent from an IPv4 address, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.3.8 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [0.0.0.0]); Sun, 13 Jun 2004 10:08:26 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040612, clamav-milter version 0.72a on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk cc: robert@irrelevant.com cc: tim@typhoon.techvalley.ca cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: "Fong, Nicholas" Subject: Re: Pruning the Ports Tree X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 09:09:38 -0000 --b5gNqxB1S1yM7hjW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lose 10 karma points for not keeping your line lengths reasonably short. On Sat, Jun 12, 2004 at 11:41:47PM -0700, Graham North wrote: > Is it alright to prune the Ports tree - and still do updates later. You're on your own if you do this. All of the infrastructure that supports the use of the prots tree assumes that you will have a complete tree in place. People telling cvsup to refuse chunks of the ports tree (usually the language specific stuff) and then finding that building the INDEX no longer works are a perennial sight on the freebsd-ports@... mailing list. Having said that, now that you can just grab a freshly build INDEX =66rom the FreeBSD servers and there's no huge necessity to build your own, refusing stuff should be less of a trap for the unwary. Use # cd /usr/ports # make fetchindex to grab a fresh index (about 5MiB). > I am running 4.8 stable and recently did a full Ports tree update using C= VSUP. This generates several questions. > 1) I took the advice of Michael Urban's book and upgraded from the "Head"= of the source tree rather than from that for 4.8 - did I really want to do= that? Does it matter for a Ports only updating? That is correct. You as an individual user should only ever want to grab the HEAD of the ports tree. All those RELEASE_4_10_0 labels just mark the state of the tree at the point that the various release CDs or DVDs were compiled. You'll note the difference compared to the system sources, which use RELENG_4_10 and similar: such labels simply do not exist within the ports tree, and if you try and cvsup ports specifying one of them, cvsup will simply delete everything under /usr/ports. > 2) The tree is getting pretty big - result, lots of files. My hard driv= e is not very big - it is down to a few hundred inodes (file handles) withi= n the usr directory. Can I prune the tree on my hard drive without compro= mising future updates? If it helps, my machine is not using X only command= mode so there are lots of Ports that will never be made. The ports tree isn't actually that big, considering that there are now about 11,000 ports. However, as you use the ports, you will tend to generate all sorts of other files and directories within the tree that take up lots of space. Such as: i) Distfiles -- the source code for the ports you have installed. Use 'portsclean -D' to get rid of any out of date distfiles, or 'portsclean -DD' to get rid of any distfiles that don't correspond to ports you have installed. ii) README.html files. These appear if you run "make readmes" -- they're not necessary for day to day use of the ports tree, and can just be deleted. Plus not having 'README.html' files around keeps them out of the way of cvsup(1). To kill them all off: # cd /usr/ports # find . -name README.html -print0 | xargs -0 rm iii) work directories -- the directories where each port is actually built. Once the port has been installed there's not much use for hanging onto those. If you use portupgrade it will usually clean them up as it goes along. Otherwise you can do: # portsclean -C or alternatively: # cd /usr/ports # make clean -DNOCLEANDEPENDS If you don't use '-DNOCLEANDEPENDS' the clean-up will take a great deal longer to eventually produce exactly the same result. It's true that the ports tree does consist of a large number of quite small files, and that will tend to use up inodes quite rapidly. However, you can't increase the number of inodes on a filesystem without wiping it out completely and rebuilding from scratch. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --b5gNqxB1S1yM7hjW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFAzBmGiD657aJF7eIRAqYuAKCcbOgh1jG9YIC135JZOlUiNzDzbQCgsJ1X +pXkejCmfaus2g/gNxSkDIU= =o7Wj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --b5gNqxB1S1yM7hjW-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 09:17:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8EB416A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 09:17:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (ns0.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF97243D1D for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 09:17:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1])i5D9GPQL080395 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 13 Jun 2004 10:16:25 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)id i5D9GPGj080394; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 10:16:25 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 10:16:25 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: Kirk Strauser Message-ID: <20040613091625.GC75168@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , Kirk Strauser , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <87acz8ndnv.fsf@strauser.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="TYecfFk8j8mZq+dy" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87acz8ndnv.fsf@strauser.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Greylist: Message not sent from an IPv4 address, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.3.8 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [0.0.0.0]); Sun, 13 Jun 2004 10:16:25 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040612, clamav-milter version 0.72a on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Weird processes after upgrading to apache2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 09:17:19 -0000 --TYecfFk8j8mZq+dy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jun 13, 2004 at 02:02:44AM -0500, Kirk Strauser wrote: > Those are the exact symptoms seen when httpd is run without the "-DSSL" > argument. In other words, my little daemons seem to forget their name and > their arguments after they've started. Note that despite the warning, the > daemons seem to have been successfully restarted (to the best of my > knowledge). I suspect it's mod_perl causing the weirdness. Plain apache-2.0.49 works perfectly well for me serving up static html and some php. mod_perl is unusual though in that it has such a complete interface to the apache API. I don't doubt that you can cause any of the effects you've seen with unsuitably written perl code. Serious debugging time required. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --TYecfFk8j8mZq+dy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFAzBtpiD657aJF7eIRAh/7AJ98wyP+hlVkqVh9cmgtN2xcWmaovQCggE7o fOGMoSU3fRVCxb2JbIwYV3w= =lRWm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --TYecfFk8j8mZq+dy-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 09:25:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 557F716A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 09:25:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.ngdc.net (mail.ngdc.net [195.190.153.169]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC6C643D31 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 09:25:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from laursen@netgroup.dk) Received: from animal (port390.ds1-noe.adsl.cybercity.dk [217.157.177.19]) (AUTH: LOGIN laursen@solidcore.dk) by bunsen.solidcore.dk with esmtp; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 10:53:00 +0200 Message-ID: <004001c45123$d10fb7f0$6401a8c0@animal> From: "Lasse Laursen" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 10:52:23 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Subject: MySQL lockups on FreeBSD 5.2-CURRENT X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 09:25:15 -0000 Hi all, We are running MySQL 4.0.20 on FreeBSD 5.2-CURRENT. The machine is a dual Xeon with 4GByte of memory with HTT enabled. Some info about the system: FreeBSD dbnode3 5.2-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.2-CURRENT #0: Tue Jun 8 14:41:02 CEST 2004 laursen@dbnode3:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/DBNODE3 i386 the /etc/libmap.conf contains: libc_r.so.5 libpthread.so.1 libc_r.so libpthread.so /etc/make.conf contains: # -- use.perl generated deltas -- # # Created: Wed Jun 9 10:18:52 2004 # Setting to use base perl from ports: PERL_VER=5.8.4 PERL_VERSION=5.8.4 PERL_ARCH=mach NOPERL=yo NO_PERL=yo NO_PERL_WRAPPER=yo MySQL 4.0.20 was compiled with --without-libwrap (libwrapper seems to be broken) and WITH_PROC_SCOPE_PTH set to yes. WE use the SCHED_ULE, and: # Memory options options MAXDSIZ="(1536*1024*1024)" options MAXSSIZ="(1024*1024*1024)" options DFLDSIZ="(1536*1024*1024)" The server runs fine until a single thread/query suddenly locks up the entire MySQL daemon. After that all queries are just queued and a restart of the daemon is needed to unlock the system. The system itself is stable enough as far as I can see. 'top' reports a lot of locks (*Giant) so I assume that it's some weird problem with the threading? We used to use FreeBSD on non-SMP machines without any problems. I have tried with linux threads as well but the same problem occurs. Have anyone experienced any similar problems and found a solution to this rather weird problem? Regards -- Lasse Laursen · VP, Hosting Technology · NetGroup Processing Aps St. Kongensgade 40H · DK-1264 Copenhagen K, Denmark Phone: +45 3370 1526 · Fax: +45 3313 0066 - Don't be fooled by cheap finnish imitations - BSD is the One True Code From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 10:59:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B45BD16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 10:59:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.r.caley.org.uk (82-41-211-19.cable.ubr12.edin.blueyonder.co.uk [82.41.211.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6A9F43D4C for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 10:59:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rjc@caley.org.uk) Received: from pele.r.caley.org.uk (pele.r.caley.org.uk [10.0.0.12]) by mail.r.caley.org.uk (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id i5DAx132037384; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 11:59:01 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from rjc@caley.org.uk) Received: from pele.r.caley.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pele.r.caley.org.uk (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i5DAx0Fm041347; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 11:59:01 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from rjc@bast.r.caley.org.uk) Received: (from rjc@localhost) by pele.r.caley.org.uk (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id i5DAwxr0041344; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 11:58:59 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from rjc@bast.r.caley.org.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: pele.r.caley.org.uk: rjc set sender to rjc@bast.r.caley.org.uk using -f Sender: rjc@caley.org.uk To: "Grauwmans Steven" References: <000001c45054$39e06a20$5f7fa551@gezin> From: Richard Caley In-Reply-To: <000001c45054$39e06a20$5f7fa551@gezin> Date: 13 Jun 2004 11:58:59 +0100 Message-ID: <87isdv911o.fsf@pele.r.caley.org.uk> Lines: 27 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What's the big difference between Linux and Unix?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 10:59:26 -0000 In article <000001c45054$39e06a20$5f7fa551@gezin>, Grauwmans Steven (gs) writes: gs> If U could please help me, I'm getting confused. Linux is a kernel, ie the bit of the OS which needs to be there, but you should never be aware of in normal use if it works properly. Unix is a trademark. There used to be an OS caled Unix, but it is so long since it's descendents diverged that the name is pretty useless now. If you see it in use it is probably historical, marketing or someone who is confused. It's like looking for a modern human population to label as homo-erectus. So, basicly you are looking at a large number of Unix-like operating systems, some of which use Linux as their kernel, some of which don't. To add another dodgy metaphor, Volkswaggon once created a car called the Golf which was so sucessful that lots of cars now are visibly descendents of that design. Some of them share the same kind of engine. However none of those cars is a golf, and certainly the engine isn't. -- Mail me as MYFIRSTNAME@MYLASTNAME.org.uk _O_ |< From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 11:18:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51EA816A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 11:18:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from chello080110061116.502.15.vie.surfer.at (chello080110061116.502.15.vie.surfer.at [80.110.61.116]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C84C443D2D for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 11:18:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from 4711@chello.at) Received: (qmail 40763 invoked from network); 13 Jun 2004 11:17:22 -0000 Received: from matrix010.matrix.net (192.168.123.10) by ns.matrix.net with SMTP; 13 Jun 2004 11:17:22 -0000 From: Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 13:16:59 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <1087062144.3487.7.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1087062144.3487.7.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Boundary-02=_BfDzApmR+HVp6Az"; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200406131317.22029.4711@chello.at> cc: arden Subject: Re: aix X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 11:18:03 -0000 --Boundary-02=_BfDzApmR+HVp6Az Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Saturday 12 June 2004 19:42, arden wrote: > hi all > > my company is sending me on an aix/rs6000 course next month Ive been > using Linux as my main OS for 2 years (thats when M$ went for good from > my home :) )and been "playing" with BSD for about 6 months > > are there any fundamental differences i should be aware of before > admitting any knowledge of *nix You might find some interresting points in the IBM online library. http://www16.boulder.ibm.com/pseries/en_US/infocenter/base/aix52.htm=20 regards=20 ch =2D-=20 Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> | OpenPGP KeyID 0x941B6B0B=20 OpenPGP-Key at hkp://wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net and http://pgp.mit.edu --Boundary-02=_BfDzApmR+HVp6Az Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBAzDfBcyi/EZQbawsRAsiNAJ0UT3igNQulTG5QPpVrnHKyi0rTXgCfT6xu bD5OGJGyr4Vjys1wPTczVC0= =s356 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Boundary-02=_BfDzApmR+HVp6Az-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 12:17:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D548A16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 12:17:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from palle.girgensohn.se (1-2-8-5a.asp.sth.bostream.se [82.182.157.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DDA043D58 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 12:17:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from girgen@pingpong.net) Received: from localhost.girgensohn.se (localhost.girgensohn.se [127.0.0.1]) by palle.girgensohn.se (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i5DCGhr9075685 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 14:16:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from girgen@pingpong.net) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 14:16:43 +0200 From: Palle Girgensohn To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1FDA476097EB5EBC0B3F23A3@palle.girgensohn.se> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.3 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: "unlocking" stale nfs? adding -t to running nfsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 12:17:07 -0000 Hi, Two questions: I have an nfs mount mounted without -i or -s (stoopid me!), just plain mount server:/fs /lfs. This was over a WAN connection, and of course the connection server<->client broke somehow, and now the mount is stale. This naturally means that I cannot do ls -l / , since it hangs forever. Now the question: is there any way to unstale this, so the machine can go back to normal again, without a reboot? I should really do this mount with tcp, of course, but found no way to get a running nfsd to also start accepting tcp (nfsd runs with "-n 6 -u", no -t). Is there a way to tell a running nfsd to start accepting tcp connections? Thanks, Palle From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 12:32:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21A2916A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 12:32:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D917643D2D for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 12:32:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tscheng@ic.sunysb.edu) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (ool-18b9101b.dyn.optonline.net [24.185.16.27]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <0HZ8008DRYT6HL@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 08:31:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 08:31:56 -0400 (EDT) From: tscheng@ic.sunysb.edu X-X-Sender: tfcheng@192.168.0.13 To: freebsd-questions Message-id: <20040613082940.P72326@192.168.0.13> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: tcllib X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 12:32:45 -0000 Hi people, i am installing devl/tcllib1.6, but it hang during some testing, here is the output: (making on freebsd 4.8): Sourced 72 Test Files. Files with failing tests: doctools/docidx.test doctools/doctoc.test doctools/doctools.test fileutil/fileutil.test ntp/time.test textutil/adjust.test textutil/adjust_hyph.test Number of tests skipped for each constraint: 6 badTest 1 bwidget 2 knownBug 44 knownBug sf-tcllib-bug-581781 1 load-dependent 20 md5crypt_c 1 pc 5 pcOnly 5 tcl8.3only and i am doing this by portupgrade, can I ctrl-C it? and how can I install this? thanks for any idea! Eureka! Best regards Tsu-Fan Cheng Department of Pathology SUNY Stony Brook Stony Brook, NY 11794 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 12:45:05 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FE8E16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 12:45:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from outfbmx002.isp.belgacom.be (outfbmx002.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.3.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C0AA43D48 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 12:45:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from geert@lori.mine.nu) Received: from outmx013.isp.belgacom.be (outmx013.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.3.64]) (8.12.11/8.12.11/Skynet-OUT-FALLBACK-2.22) with ESMTP id i5DBNA9M007093 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 13:23:10 +0200 (envelope-from ) Received: from outmx013.isp.belgacom.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) with ESMTP id i5DBMpq5010532 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 13:22:51 +0200 (envelope-from ) Received: from lori.mine.nu (166-19.244.81.adsl.skynet.be [81.244.19.166]) with ESMTP id i5DBMlvS010496 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 13:22:48 +0200 (envelope-from ) Received: by lori.mine.nu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6C3DE42A; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 13:22:47 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 13:22:47 +0200 From: Geert Hendrickx To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040613112246.GA1647@lori.mine.nu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i X-GPG-Key: http://www.win.ua.ac.be/~s005085/gnupgkey.txt X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/766C1E92 X-Accept-Language: nl,en Subject: ipfw: question about keep-state on icmp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 12:45:05 -0000 Hi, this is a fragment of my ipfw-config which should allow me to ping others, but not allow others to ping me: 00092 allow icmp from me to any keep-state 65535 deny ip from any to any Indeed, other hosts can't ping me... UNLESS I am pinging them at the same time! This is of course a result of keeping the state of icmp- traffic between these two hosts, and I can avoid this by changing it to: 00091 deny icmp from any to me icmptype 8 <-- deny ping request to me 00092 allow icmp from me to any keep-state (icmptype 8 = ping request) But then I don't see the use for keep-state in 00092 anymore... The following seems equally valid to me: 00091 allow icmp from me to any 00092 allow icmp from any to me icmptype 0 <-- allow ping reply to me So what am I missing? And are errors as in the first example also possible with tcp-connections, e.g. ssh? GH From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 12:57:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D925E16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 12:57:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.pobox.co.uk (ws.pobox.co.uk [217.27.240.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1178343D4C for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 12:57:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scott@sporticia.com) Received: from host-18-242-27-217.pobox.net.uk ([217.27.242.18] helo=[192.168.95.88]) by mail.pobox.co.uk with asmtp (Exim 4.31) id 1BZUWy-0004FA-2j; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 13:56:12 +0100 Message-ID: <40CC4EEA.9030005@sporticia.com> Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 13:56:10 +0100 From: scott User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (Windows/20040502) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: arden References: <1087062144.3487.7.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1087062144.3487.7.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: aix X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 12:57:09 -0000 just got back from being sent on one of these myself ! there seemed to be quite a lot of emphasis on AIX and how it works with storage (IBM storage that is, ESS/Shark) and SAN (about 2 dozen commands specifically dealing with getting data relating to physical/virtual storage elements etc. etc.) they also covered SMIT, the AIX management tool in some depth (it's a bit like a character based version of Webmin !!) other than that, fairly common ground, some diefferences in the locations of certain config files etc. etc., but if you use SMIT then it's all transparent _scott arden wrote: > hi all > > my company is sending me on an aix/rs6000 course next month Ive been > using Linux as my main OS for 2 years (thats when M$ went for good from > my home :) )and been "playing" with BSD for about 6 months > > are there any fundamental differences i should be aware of before > admitting any knowledge of *nix > > Arden > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 15:39:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 550E916A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 15:39:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [208.162.254.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C575F43D2F for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 15:39:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from pooh.strauser.com (pooh.honeypot.net [10.0.5.128]) by kanga.honeypot.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i5DFcWVv056782; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 10:38:33 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) To: Matthew Seaman References: <87acz8ndnv.fsf@strauser.com> <20040613091625.GC75168@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> From: Kirk Strauser Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 10:38:32 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20040613091625.GC75168@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> (Matthew Seaman's message of "Sun, 13 Jun 2004 10:16:25 +0100") Message-ID: <87y8mrmps7.fsf@strauser.com> Lines: 18 X-Mailer: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040612, clamav-milter version 0.72a on kanga.honeypot.net X-Virus-Status: Clean cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Weird processes after upgrading to apache2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 15:39:21 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable At 2004-06-13T09:16:25Z, Matthew Seaman w= rites: > I suspect it's mod_perl causing the weirdness. Plain apache-2.0.49 works > perfectly well for me serving up static html and some php. > > mod_perl is unusual though in that it has such a complete interface to the > apache API. I don't doubt that you can cause any of the effects you've > seen with unsuitably written perl code. Serious debugging time required. I temporarily disabled mod_perl and the "problems" went away as expected. I'm kind of surprised that I never saw these problems with the same web application (TWiki) and mod_perl on Apache 1, but it seems to be unique to my Apache 2 installation. Weird. Anyway, the server is question has enough muscle to serve TWiki pages quickly, so I may semi-permanently ditch mod_perl. =2D-=20 Kirk Strauser --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBAzHT45sRg+Y0CpvERAkauAJ9G+NQPMjEMrYE+mUB7H9J5Q3C0aACfdJ+B zv5JUp+xcgDn6oPb/PE2IqM= =BuUC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 15:48:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0894F16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 15:48:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta1.adelphia.net (mta1.adelphia.net [68.168.78.175]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C0D743D5C for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 15:48:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Barbish3@adelphia.net) Received: from barbish ([67.20.101.71]) by mta13.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.08 201-253-122-130-108-20031117) with SMTP id <20040613154559.QECH13425.mta13.adelphia.net@barbish>; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 11:45:59 -0400 From: "JJB" To: "Geert Hendrickx" , Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 11:45:58 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 In-Reply-To: <20040613112246.GA1647@lori.mine.nu> Importance: Normal Subject: RE: ipfw: question about keep-state on icmp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Barbish3@adelphia.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 15:48:33 -0000 I think if you read closely you will find out the keep-state option does not work on the icmp protocol because icmp is stateless protocol. This does not mean that ipfw will give coding error if you code it. You have to have an icmp stateless rule to allow it out and another to allow it in. allow icmp from me to any out via xl0 allow icmp from any to me icmptype 0 in via xl0 -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Geert Hendrickx Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 7:23 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: ipfw: question about keep-state on icmp Hi, this is a fragment of my ipfw-config which should allow me to ping others, but not allow others to ping me: 00092 allow icmp from me to any keep-state 65535 deny ip from any to any Indeed, other hosts can't ping me... UNLESS I am pinging them at the same time! This is of course a result of keeping the state of icmp- traffic between these two hosts, and I can avoid this by changing it to: 00091 deny icmp from any to me icmptype 8 <-- deny ping request to me 00092 allow icmp from me to any keep-state (icmptype 8 = ping request) But then I don't see the use for keep-state in 00092 anymore... The following seems equally valid to me: 00091 allow icmp from me to any 00092 allow icmp from any to me icmptype 0 <-- allow ping reply to me So what am I missing? And are errors as in the first example also possible with tcp-connections, e.g. ssh? GH _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 16:32:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5959F16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 16:32:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (ns0.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02A5E43D5A for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 16:32:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) i5DGW1jl091078 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 13 Jun 2004 17:32:01 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)id i5DGW1dJ091077; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 17:32:01 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 17:32:01 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: Kirk Strauser Message-ID: <20040613163201.GA90906@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , Kirk Strauser , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <87acz8ndnv.fsf@strauser.com> <20040613091625.GC75168@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> <87y8mrmps7.fsf@strauser.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87y8mrmps7.fsf@strauser.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Greylist: Message not sent from an IPv4 address, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.3.8 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [0.0.0.0]); Sun, 13 Jun 2004 17:32:01 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040612, clamav-milter version 0.72a on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Weird processes after upgrading to apache2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 16:32:44 -0000 --UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jun 13, 2004 at 10:38:32AM -0500, Kirk Strauser wrote: > At 2004-06-13T09:16:25Z, Matthew Seaman = writes: >=20 > > I suspect it's mod_perl causing the weirdness. Plain apache-2.0.49 wor= ks > > perfectly well for me serving up static html and some php. > > > > mod_perl is unusual though in that it has such a complete interface to = the > > apache API. I don't doubt that you can cause any of the effects you've > > seen with unsuitably written perl code. Serious debugging time require= d. >=20 > I temporarily disabled mod_perl and the "problems" went away as expected. > I'm kind of surprised that I never saw these problems with the same web > application (TWiki) and mod_perl on Apache 1, but it seems to be unique to > my Apache 2 installation. Weird. Anyway, the server is question has eno= ugh > muscle to serve TWiki pages quickly, so I may semi-permanently ditch > mod_perl. Well, the apache API and hence mod_perl are significantly different between apache 1.x and apache 2.x -- you will need to modify perl code written as Apache PerlHandlers if you want them to work with mod_perl2.0. mod_perl for apache 2.x is still at the pre-release stage. CGI.pm/Apache::Registry stuff should be compatible, but as ever in computing things that should be generally aren't. If you can get your hands on "Practical mod_perl" by Bekman and Cholet (O'Reilly -- http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/pmodperl/) there's two whole chapters about the differences between mod_perl and mod_perl2.0 Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFAzIGBiD657aJF7eIRAsPZAJ4gMZYsJZbLhlVHb/zW1xijjWTAegCdEM64 DqMBEXBfJJq9M/YGlQ9QqI0= =Ut7K -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 16:46:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AFA816A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 16:46:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from twinlark.arctic.org (twinlark.arctic.org [168.75.98.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E492043D41 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 16:46:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atk2@arctic.org) Received: (qmail 17859 invoked by uid 1347); 13 Jun 2004 13:20:37 -0000 Date: 13 Jun 2004 13:20:37 -0000 Message-ID: <20040613132037.17858.qmail@twinlark.arctic.org> From: atk2@arctic.org To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: xfree86 3.x vs xfree86 4.x (and problem building gnome2 -aka fontconfig X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 16:46:52 -0000 Hello, Yesterday (see previous note) I decided to upgrade from 4.5 to 4.10. I guess what I really wanted was to upgrade the system utilities and ports. The problem I'm running into is all the newer multi-media stuff (gnome2, mozilla 1.6, ....) depend on fontconfig which depend upon XFree86 4.x (4.5 was based on Free86 3.x). Now the question is can i build these things without upgrading X. I suppose I can upgrade X (not sure what new and wonderful problems that will introduce and if my old configs for gnome1 and X are going to work after the upgrade)? My guess is I will have to bite the bullet and do the portupgrade -ra and/or manually upgrade X to vs 3 to get out of my current state of things being 1/2 built. But thought I would drop this note to see if anyone had any more graceful suggestions. Last but least I had one kernel panic last night - is 4.10 stable less stable than 4.5 release ?? (no panics in 1+ years under 4.5). I was adding stuff to a directory while deleting stuff from the directory (two scripts) when the kernel panic (was really a panic - the kernel jsut rebooted while the scripts were running - nothing in syslog). I did the buildworld upgrade but I still need to upgrade devices (i suppose this is pretty naughty but I guess 4.5 and 4.10 are pretty close as things seem to be running ok). thanks, Alan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 16:56:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12F6516A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 16:56:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.revolutionsp.com (ganymede.revolutionsp.com [64.246.0.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B403D43D4C for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 16:56:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from klr@6s-gaming.com) Received: from mail.revolutionsp.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.revolutionsp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56AC015CD5 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 13:54:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 81.84.175.12 (SquirrelMail authenticated user klr@6s-gaming.com); by mailadmin.revolutionsp.com with HTTP; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 13:54:50 -0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <3476.81.84.175.12.1087134890.squirrel@81.84.175.12> Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 13:54:50 -0000 (GMT) From: klr@6s-gaming.com To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Toshiba Satellite A40-231 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 16:56:42 -0000 Hi list, I'm thinking on adquiring a P4 3.06mhz Toshiba Satellite A40-231 laptop. Does anyone know any problem in using freebsd (5.2.1) with this laptop? Or any success stories ? -- www.6s-gaming.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 17:50:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7AFF16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 17:50:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from adsl-68-76-19-75.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net (adsl-68-76-19-75.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net [68.76.19.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95FE943D1D for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 17:50:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from luke@foolishgames.com) Received: from [192.168.2.49] (adsl-68-73-70-68.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net [68.73.70.68]) (authenticated bits=0)ESMTP id i5DHnjCj073537; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 13:49:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from luke@foolishgames.com) In-Reply-To: <20040612191744.67f25616.benlutz@datacomm.ch> References: <20040612191744.67f25616.benlutz@datacomm.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <5548BC12-BD4E-11D8-BCB7-000A95EFF4CA@foolishgames.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Lucas Holt Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 11:28:34 -0400 To: Benjamin Lutz X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version 0.72, clamav-milter version 0.72 on adsl-68-76-19-75.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net X-Virus-Status: Clean cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Resource temporarily unavailable crash in vi X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 17:50:44 -0000 I've experienced this bug on several occasions. Each time I was using vi over a ssh session. X11 was not loaded on the system. I never did figure it out, and after a reinstall the problem did not occur often. I suspect it has something to do with virtual memory. On Jun 12, 2004, at 1:17 PM, Benjamin Lutz wrote: > Hello, > > I'm lately experiencing the "Resource temporarily unavailable" crash > in vi > a lot. I've had the same thing happen in other programs (eg, cvs, > while it > was waiting for input), so it's not something that's specific to vi. > Someone even had it happen with cat: > > http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/stable/2003-08/ > 0497.html > > I went about investigating this occurance. I added an abort() to > strerror() so I would get a coredump before the error message is > printed. > The results are a bit surprising: > > #0 0x2814406f in kill () from /lib/libc.so.5 > #1 0x28138da8 in raise () from /lib/libc.so.5 > #2 0x281ae493 in abort () from /lib/libc.so.5 > #3 0x28193be3 in strerror () from /lib/libc.so.5 > #4 0x08053e15 in free () > #5 0x0804bcc0 in free () > #6 0x0804b929 in free () > #7 0x08050b85 in free () > #8 0x0807e331 in free () > #9 0x0807d12e in free () > #10 0x0807cb8c in free () > #11 0x08053307 in free () > #12 0x0804b063 in free () > #13 0x0804a3b9 in free () > > I then found these two postings that seem to point in the correct > direction: > > http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/stable/2003-08/ > 0094.html > http://monkey.org/openbsd/archive/misc/0310/msg01101.html > > This vi thing has happened most often while i working in KDE's Konsole. > I'd open a new window, switch back to the old one, and vi would have > crashed. It also happens when I'm starting vi in a Konsole. > > Now, I think the problem (or one of the programs that make it > apparent) is > Konsole. However, before filing a bug report, I'd like to get some more > information. If you've ever encountered this bug, what were the > circumstances? If you've researched it some, what did you find out? > > Greetings > Benjamin Lutz > Lucas Holt Luke@FoolishGames.com ________________________________________________________ FoolishGames.com (Jewel Fan Site) JustJournal.com (Free blogging) 'Mmm... forbidden donut' -- Homer Jay Simpson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 17:54:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E03F16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 17:54:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [208.162.254.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F92543D39 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 17:54:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from pooh.strauser.com (pooh.honeypot.net [10.0.5.128]) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9804FB9C2; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 12:54:32 -0500 (CDT) To: Matthew Seaman References: <87acz8ndnv.fsf@strauser.com> <20040613091625.GC75168@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> <87y8mrmps7.fsf@strauser.com> <20040613163201.GA90906@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> From: Kirk Strauser Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 12:54:32 -0500 Message-ID: <878yermjhj.fsf@strauser.com> Lines: 11 X-Mailer: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Weird processes after upgrading to apache2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 17:54:41 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable At 2004-06-13T16:32:01Z, Matthew Seaman w= rites: > If you can get your hands on "Practical mod_perl" by Bekman and Cholet > (O'Reilly -- http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/pmodperl/) there's two whole > chapters about the differences between mod_perl and mod_perl2.0 Thanks for the pointers, Matt. I'm not that concerned at the moment, but I might take a look at that in my Abundant Free Time. ;-) =2D-=20 Kirk Strauser --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBAzJTY5sRg+Y0CpvERAvAMAJwJPmc2lLYqHDvoxaja1ht74ijgHwCeL2jK 2zGs3Dsqb1tfEYNTmx6upoM= =usc9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 18:04:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EC8716A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 18:04:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.nildram.co.uk (smtp.nildram.co.uk [195.112.4.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A002C43D41 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 18:04:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from arden@nildram.co.uk) Received: from 10.0.0.6 (81-6-231-38.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk [81.6.231.38]) by smtp.nildram.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1FCA2548BB; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 19:02:12 +0100 (BST) From: arden To: scott In-Reply-To: <40CC4EEA.9030005@sporticia.com> References: <1087062144.3487.7.camel@localhost> <40CC4EEA.9030005@sporticia.com> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1087149654.2386.45.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4-8mdk Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 19:00:55 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: aix X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 18:04:21 -0000 thanks for all the info :) just looked at my company mail in addition to rs6000 and aix, on a shark course and as400 before the end of the year think I'm going to see allot of hotels in the next 6 months. arden From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 18:38:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA80216A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 18:38:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from twinlark.arctic.org (twinlark.arctic.org [168.75.98.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDFC343D1F for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 18:38:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atk2@arctic.org) Received: (qmail 7374 invoked by uid 1347); 13 Jun 2004 18:37:16 -0000 Date: 13 Jun 2004 18:37:16 -0000 Message-ID: <20040613183716.7373.qmail@twinlark.arctic.org> From: atk2@arctic.org To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Sigh - more trouble with XFree86-4 and /usr//ports/x11-fonts/fontconfig X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 18:38:01 -0000 My understanding (see two messages earlier) was to get fontconfig to build I needed XFree86-4 - but when I go into XFree86-4 to build it I get the same error: --- fcfreetype.c:280: syntax error before `psfontinfo' fcfreetype.c:739: `psfontinfo' undeclared (first use in this function) fcfreetype.c:739: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once fcfreetype.c:739: for each function it appears in.) gmake[2]: *** [fcfreetype.lo] Error 1 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/f/ports/x11-fonts/fontconfig/work/fontconfig-2.2.2/src' gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/f/ports/x11-fonts/fontconfig/work/fontconfig-2.2.2' gmake: *** [all] Error 2 *** Error code 2 Stop in /f/ports/x11-fonts/fontconfig. *** Error code 1 Stop in /f/ports/x11/XFree86-4-libraries. *** Error code 1 Stop in /f/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients. *** Error code 1 Stop in /f/ports/x11/XFree86-4. --- Any suggestions on how to fix this ? Thanks, Alan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 18:51:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 302C416A4D6 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 18:51:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from priv-edtnes87.telusplanet.net (defout.telus.net [199.185.220.240]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDDFE43D1D for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 18:51:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from graham.north@telus.net) Received: from phoenix ([142.173.17.246]) by priv-edtnes87.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.6.01.03.02 201-2131-111-104-20040324) with ESMTP id <20040613185158.GGJI15734.priv-edtnes87.telusplanet.net@phoenix>; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 12:51:58 -0600 Message-ID: <002301c45177$8d6f5ba0$627ba8c0@phoenix> From: "Graham North" To: "Peter Ulrich Kruppa" References: <002201c45111$801acb30$627ba8c0@phoenix> <20040613101323.Q2197@pukruppa.net> Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 11:52:18 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 cc: tim@typhoon.techvalley.ca cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Pruning the Ports Tree X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 18:51:59 -0000 Hi Uli and the rest of the FreeBSD forum: Thanks for your advice - though I am not entirely sure what the purpose of your last questions are. To answer though: My HD is about 1.2G - it is sharing 2.0G with another OS. /usr ~ 778M usr/ports ~247M total /usr being used is ~595M with about 183M free. The problem is not disk space - it appears to be file handles. Remember, those ports files are only about 0.5K each - so lots of inodes are being used in file infrastructure. Midnight Comm which I use for a lot of file navigation indicates that I had 99838 inodes available - of which there are now only 602 free! Yesterday that was about 900, but then I mirrored part of a friend's website and used another 300. As you can see, I need to free up some file handling capability. Thanks for any further advice you can give. Cheers, Graham/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Ulrich Kruppa" To: "Graham North" Cc: Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 1:29 AM Subject: Re: Pruning the Ports Tree > On Sat, 12 Jun 2004, Graham North wrote: > > > Is it alright to prune the Ports tree - and still do updates later. > > > > I am running 4.8 stable and recently did a full Ports tree > > update using CVSUP. This generates several questions. 1) I > > took the advice of Michael Urban's book and upgraded from the > > "Head" of the source tree rather than from that for 4.8 - did I > > really want to do that? Does it matter for a Ports only > > updating? > It is recommended to use the appropriate kernel and base system > with your ports. Things might work the way you did it, or > (probably) not. > > 2) The tree is getting pretty big - result, lots of > > files. My hard drive is not very big - it is down to a few > > hundred inodes (file handles) within the usr directory. Can I > > prune the tree on my hard drive without compromising future > > updates? If it helps, my machine is not using X only command > > mode so there are lots of Ports that will never be made. > For further advices it would be helpful to know how big your hd > is and how much diskspace is used by your ports tree. > You can check the latter by > # du -h -d 1 > (see # man du) > > Regards, > > Uli. > > > Thanks for any help that can be offered. > > > > Graham/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > +---------------------------+ > | Peter Ulrich Kruppa | > | Wuppertal | > | Germany | > +---------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 20:00:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4565916A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 20:00:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA47543D49 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 20:00:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) id i5DK0lqC087544; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 15:00:47 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 15:00:47 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Palle Girgensohn Message-ID: <20040613200046.GD94119@dan.emsphone.com> References: <1FDA476097EB5EBC0B3F23A3@palle.girgensohn.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1FDA476097EB5EBC0B3F23A3@palle.girgensohn.se> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.2-CURRENT X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "unlocking" stale nfs? adding -t to running nfsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 20:00:53 -0000 In the last episode (Jun 13), Palle Girgensohn said: > I have an nfs mount mounted without -i or -s (stoopid me!), just > plain mount server:/fs /lfs. This was over a WAN connection, and of > course the connection server<->client broke somehow, and now the > mount is stale. This naturally means that I cannot do ls -l / , since > it hangs forever. Now the question: is there any way to unstale this, > so the machine can go back to normal again, without a reboot? umount -f /mountpoint, and remount it. The only thing I know of that can cause an entire mountpoint to go stale is if the server gets rebooted with a new kernel and it can't determine which filesystem an incoming request is for. Connectivity issues shouldn't cause this. > I should really do this mount with tcp, of course, but found no way > to get a running nfsd to also start accepting tcp (nfsd runs with "-n > 6 -u", no -t). Is there a way to tell a running nfsd to start > accepting tcp connections? Just bounce nfsd after changing nfs_server_flags in rc.conf. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 20:11:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA82116A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 20:11:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rambutan.pingpong.net (81.milagro.bahnhof.net [195.178.168.81]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAB1E43D49 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 20:11:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from girgen@pingpong.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])i5DKBbSD035149; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 22:11:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from girgen@pingpong.net) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 22:11:37 +0200 From: Palle Girgensohn To: Dan Nelson Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20040613200046.GD94119@dan.emsphone.com> References: <1FDA476097EB5EBC0B3F23A3@palle.girgensohn.se> <20040613200046.GD94119@dan.emsphone.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.5 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "unlocking" stale nfs? adding -t to running nfsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 20:11:44 -0000 Thanks for the reply! --On Sunday, June 13, 2004 15:00:47 -0500 Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Jun 13), Palle Girgensohn said: >> I have an nfs mount mounted without -i or -s (stoopid me!), just >> plain mount server:/fs /lfs. This was over a WAN connection, and of >> course the connection server<->client broke somehow, and now the >> mount is stale. This naturally means that I cannot do ls -l / , since >> it hangs forever. Now the question: is there any way to unstale this, >> so the machine can go back to normal again, without a reboot? > > umount -f /mountpoint, and remount it. The only thing I know of that > can cause an entire mountpoint to go stale is if the server gets > rebooted with a new kernel and it can't determine which filesystem an > incoming request is for. Connectivity issues shouldn't cause this. hmm nfs over WAN genererally sucks... I actually had to reboot the client. :( >> I should really do this mount with tcp, of course, but found no way >> to get a running nfsd to also start accepting tcp (nfsd runs with "-n >> 6 -u", no -t). Is there a way to tell a running nfsd to start >> accepting tcp connections? > > Just bounce nfsd after changing nfs_server_flags in rc.conf. bounce, you mean like kill -USR1 ? Surely, nfsd does not read rc.conf, so kill -USR1 #pid && nfsd -t ...? Is that safe when the server has active clients? /Palle From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 20:14:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F25C316A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 20:14:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp813.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp813.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ADFE143D4C for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 20:14:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from addymin@pacbell.net) Received: from unknown (HELO pacbell.net) (m?chinn@pacbell.net@63.203.204.73 with plain) by smtp813.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Jun 2004 20:14:15 -0000 Message-ID: <40CCB631.2050803@pacbell.net> Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 13:16:49 -0700 From: Mike User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Sawyer References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipfilter allowing samba X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: addymin@pacbell.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 20:14:16 -0000 Bill Sawyer wrote: > Hey Dave, > > You need to allow exceptions in ipfilter for ports 137 to 139. The following rules should work: > > pass in quick on ed0 proto tcp from 192.168.0.0/16 to 192.168.0.1/32 port = 137 keep state > pass in quick on ed0 proto tcp from 192.168.0.0/16 to 192.168.0.1/32 port = 138 keep state > pass in quick on ed0 proto tcp from 192.168.0.0/16 to 192.168.0.1/32 port = 139 keep state > > Where 192.168.0.0 is your network and 192.168.0.1 is your server IP. Ummm. I think you'll want to allow incoming traffic across these ports for intranet Samba fileshare operations: port 139 tcp port 138 upd port 137 upd Michael Chinn > > Cheers, > > Bill Sawyer > Information Systems > Six Flags St. Louis > (636) 938-5300 x. 231 > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 20:16:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7700616A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 20:16:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F260243D2F for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 20:16:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) id i5DKGfb6014491; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 15:16:41 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 15:16:41 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Palle Girgensohn Message-ID: <20040613201640.GE94119@dan.emsphone.com> References: <1FDA476097EB5EBC0B3F23A3@palle.girgensohn.se> <20040613200046.GD94119@dan.emsphone.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-OS: FreeBSD 5.2-CURRENT X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "unlocking" stale nfs? adding -t to running nfsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 20:16:46 -0000 In the last episode (Jun 13), Palle Girgensohn said: > --On Sunday, June 13, 2004 15:00:47 -0500 Dan Nelson > wrote: > >In the last episode (Jun 13), Palle Girgensohn said: > >>I should really do this mount with tcp, of course, but found no way > >>to get a running nfsd to also start accepting tcp (nfsd runs with > >>"-n 6 -u", no -t). Is there a way to tell a running nfsd to start > >>accepting tcp connections? > > > >Just bounce nfsd after changing nfs_server_flags in rc.conf. > > bounce, you mean like kill -USR1 ? Surely, nfsd does not read > rc.conf, so kill -USR1 #pid && nfsd -t ...? Is that safe when the > server has active clients? In 5.x, you can run /etc/rc.d/nfsd restart, which does read rc.conf. In 4.x and earlier, you'll have to kill and restart it manually, like you wrote. Clients shouldn't notice anything except a short delay if they try to do something while nfsd is down on the server. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 20:19:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90E7416A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 20:19:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from GWIA01.sftp.com (mail.sftp.com [65.243.46.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A59D43D2D for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 20:19:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bSawyer@sftp.com) Received: from mail.sftp.com ([192.10.2.3]) by GWIA01.sftp.com; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 15:25:09 -0500 Received: from SF_Mail-Message_Server by mail.sftp.com with Novell_GroupWise; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 15:17:02 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.5 Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 15:16:28 -0500 From: "Bill Sawyer" To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: ipfilter allowing samba X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 20:19:24 -0000 Mike wrote: >Ummm. I think you'll want to allow incoming traffic across these ports=20 >for intranet Samba fileshare operations: > >port 139 tcp >port 138 upd >port 137 upd My bad. I think you're right. Cheers, Bill Sawyer Information Systems Six Flags St. Louis (636) 938-5300 x. 231 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 21:15:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2B4016A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 21:15:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-out.net.ipl.pt (31.220.137.193.in-addr.arpa [193.137.220.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2356543D31 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 21:15:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rpalves@cc.isel.ipl.pt) Received: (qmail 17328 invoked by uid 508); 13 Jun 2004 22:15:21 +0100 Received: from rpalves@cc.isel.ipl.pt by smtp-int.net.ipl.pt by uid 89 with qmail-scannerClear:RC:0(213.22.49.96):SA:0(0.3/5.0):. 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(rpalves@cc.isel.ipl.pt@213.22.49.96) by 0 with SMTP; 13 Jun 2004 22:15:19 +0100 From: Rui Alves To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1087161313.1008.5.camel@pardal> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 22:15:13 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on 'mailrelay.net.ipl.pt' X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=no version=2.63 Subject: Can't mount FAT32 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 21:15:26 -0000 Hello there, I can't seem to mount a FAT32 partition that I have on /dev/ad0s2 I try to do "mount -t msdos /dev/ad0s2 /mnt/documents" and I get: "msdosfs: /dev/ad0s2: Invalid argument" Thanks Rui Alves From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 21:42:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89C0C16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 21:42:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [65.173.111.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2A7243D1D for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 21:42:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i5DLg95x032463; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 15:42:09 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) with ESMTP id i5DLg90H032460; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 15:42:09 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 15:42:09 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Rui Alves In-Reply-To: <1087161313.1008.5.camel@pardal> Message-ID: <20040613154108.Q32441@wonkity.com> References: <1087161313.1008.5.camel@pardal> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.3.8 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 13 Jun 2004 15:42:09 -0600 (MDT) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't mount FAT32 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 21:42:22 -0000 On Sun, 13 Jun 2004, Rui Alves wrote: > I can't seem to mount a FAT32 partition that I have on /dev/ad0s2 > > I try to do "mount -t msdos /dev/ad0s2 /mnt/documents" and I get: > > "msdosfs: /dev/ad0s2: Invalid argument" If it's a "logical drive", that should probably be /dev/ad0s5. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 22:11:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23ED816A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 22:11:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dsl-mail.kamp.net (mail.kamp-dsl.de [195.62.99.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 511DD43D4C for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 22:11:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@pukruppa.de) Received: (qmail 18901 invoked by uid 513); 13 Jun 2004 22:14:37 -0000 Received: from root@pukruppa.de by dsl-mail by uid 89 with qmail-scanner-1.21 Clear:RC:1(213.146.114.24):SA:0(-4.9/5.0):. Processed in 0.981798 secs); 13 Jun 2004 22:14:37 -0000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 Received: from unknown (HELO reverse-213-146-114-24.dialin.kamp-dsl.de) (213.146.114.24) by dsl-mail.kamp.net with SMTP; 13 Jun 2004 22:14:36 -0000 Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 00:11:35 +0200 (CEST) From: Peter Ulrich Kruppa X-X-Sender: root@pukruppa.net To: Graham North In-Reply-To: <002301c45177$8d6f5ba0$627ba8c0@phoenix> Message-ID: <20040613214533.J842@pukruppa.net> References: <002201c45111$801acb30$627ba8c0@phoenix> <20040613101323.Q2197@pukruppa.net> <002301c45177$8d6f5ba0$627ba8c0@phoenix> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: tim@typhoon.techvalley.ca cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Pruning the Ports Tree X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 22:11:01 -0000 On Sun, 13 Jun 2004, Graham North wrote: > Hi Uli and the rest of the FreeBSD forum: > > Thanks for your advice - though I am not entirely sure what the purpose of > your last questions are. I wanted to know about your ressources, since your ports dirctory might grow very big, if you don't clean it up every now and then. Matthew gave some hints about that at the last part of his mail. I hardly know anything about inodes, but as far as I understand, you would have to reformat your entire filesystem to change anything about this. The simpliest way to update your system on a small hd would be to keep strictly to binary upgrades and installations. You won't need the ports directory then (neither the system sources in /usr/src). Another simple idea would be to get another small hd somewhere, devide it into two slices and mount one on /usr/ports and the other on /usr/src . This would give you enough space to do full rebuilds of your system and your ports. If you have enough patience and time you can also download single port directories from www.freebsd.org/ports, place them in appropriate directories and try to make install them. They will complain when they are missing some other port. I have done that to set up a samba printer server, but next time I will use binary packages. Uli. > > To answer though: > My HD is about 1.2G - it is sharing 2.0G with another OS. > /usr ~ 778M > usr/ports ~247M > total /usr being used is ~595M with about 183M free. > > The problem is not disk space - it appears to be file handles. Remember, > those ports files are only about 0.5K each - so lots of inodes are being > used in file infrastructure. Midnight Comm which I use for a lot of file > navigation indicates that I had 99838 inodes available - of which there are > now only 602 free! Yesterday that was about 900, but then I mirrored part > of a friend's website and used another 300. > As you can see, I need to free up some file handling capability. > > Thanks for any further advice you can give. > > Cheers, Graham/ > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Ulrich Kruppa" > To: "Graham North" > Cc: > Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 1:29 AM > Subject: Re: Pruning the Ports Tree > > >> On Sat, 12 Jun 2004, Graham North wrote: >> >>> Is it alright to prune the Ports tree - and still do updates later. >>> >>> I am running 4.8 stable and recently did a full Ports tree >>> update using CVSUP. This generates several questions. 1) I >>> took the advice of Michael Urban's book and upgraded from the >>> "Head" of the source tree rather than from that for 4.8 - did I >>> really want to do that? Does it matter for a Ports only >>> updating? >> It is recommended to use the appropriate kernel and base system >> with your ports. Things might work the way you did it, or >> (probably) not. >> >> 2) The tree is getting pretty big - result, lots of >>> files. My hard drive is not very big - it is down to a few >>> hundred inodes (file handles) within the usr directory. Can I >>> prune the tree on my hard drive without compromising future >>> updates? If it helps, my machine is not using X only command >>> mode so there are lots of Ports that will never be made. >> For further advices it would be helpful to know how big your hd >> is and how much diskspace is used by your ports tree. >> You can check the latter by >> # du -h -d 1 >> (see # man du) >> >> Regards, >> >> Uli. >> >>> Thanks for any help that can be offered. >>> >>> Graham/ >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >>> >> >> +---------------------------+ >> | Peter Ulrich Kruppa | >> | Wuppertal | >> | Germany | >> +---------------------------+ > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > +---------------------------+ | Peter Ulrich Kruppa | | Wuppertal | | Germany | +---------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 22:26:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 834B216A4D0 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 22:26:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from twinlark.arctic.org (twinlark.arctic.org [168.75.98.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1084343D53 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 22:26:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atk2@arctic.org) Received: (qmail 19348 invoked by uid 1347); 13 Jun 2004 22:26:24 -0000 Date: 13 Jun 2004 22:26:24 -0000 Message-ID: <20040613222624.19347.qmail@twinlark.arctic.org> From: atk2@arctic.org To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: more on XFree86-4 problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 22:26:25 -0000 Ok - I decided that perhaps my problem was a undetected conflict in old packages - i deleted most of my old package and now the current error I get is: CSRG_BASED -DFUNCPROTO=15 -DNARROWPROTO -DXTHREADS -D_THREAD_SAFE -DXUSE_MTSAFE_API -DXNO_MTSAFE_PWDAPI -DMALLOC_0_RETURNS_NULL -DHAS_SNPRINTF -DLIBX11 -DPOSTLOCALELIBDIR=\"lib\" util/makekeys.c -L/usr/X11R6/lib -pthread -Wl,-rpath,/usr/X11R6/lib cc: GccWarningOptions: No such file or directory *** Error code 1 (ignored) ./makekeys < /f/ports/x11/XFree86-4-libraries/work/xc/exports/include/X11/keysymdef.h > ks_tables_h ./makekeys: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /f/ports/x11/XFree86-4-libraries/work/xc/lib/X11. *** Error code 1 Stop in /f/ports/x11/XFree86-4-libraries/work/xc/lib. *** Error code 1 --- The problem is I have to get XFree86-4 to build to get gnome2 to build to get mozilla to build. Bleh - I tried the pkg_add route but most of the packages required for gnome2 don't exist (mostly Xfree86x 4.3.0-7) (I used pkg_add -r gnome2) Alan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 22:34:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D84CA16A4CE; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 22:34:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8EF043D45; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 22:34:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from eta@lclark.edu) Received: from [192.168.0.103] (c-24-21-18-195.client.comcast.net[24.21.18.195]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2004061322343201500fem33e>; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 22:34:32 +0000 From: Eric Anholt To: atk2@arctic.org In-Reply-To: <20040613222624.19347.qmail@twinlark.arctic.org> References: <20040613222624.19347.qmail@twinlark.arctic.org> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1087166071.847.35.camel@leguin> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 15:34:31 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: more on XFree86-4 problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 22:34:33 -0000 On Sun, 2004-06-13 at 15:26, atk2@arctic.org wrote: > Ok - I decided that perhaps my problem was a undetected conflict in old > packages - i deleted most of my old package and now the current error I > get is: > > CSRG_BASED -DFUNCPROTO=15 -DNARROWPROTO -DXTHREADS -D_THREAD_SAFE -DXUSE_MTSAFE_API -DXNO_MTSAFE_PWDAPI -DMALLOC_0_RETURNS_NULL -DHAS_SNPRINTF -DLIBX11 -DPOSTLOCALELIBDIR=\"lib\" util/makekeys.c -L/usr/X11R6/lib -pthread -Wl,-rpath,/usr/X11R6/lib > cc: GccWarningOptions: No such file or directory > *** Error code 1 (ignored) > ./makekeys < /f/ports/x11/XFree86-4-libraries/work/xc/exports/include/X11/keysymdef.h > ks_tables_h > ./makekeys: not found > *** Error code 127 > > Stop in /f/ports/x11/XFree86-4-libraries/work/xc/lib/X11. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /f/ports/x11/XFree86-4-libraries/work/xc/lib. > *** Error code 1 > > --- > > The problem is I have to get XFree86-4 to build to get gnome2 to build to > get mozilla to build. Bleh - I tried the pkg_add route but most of the > packages required for gnome2 don't exist (mostly Xfree86x 4.3.0-7) > > (I used pkg_add -r gnome2) Try reinstalling your imake-4 and then XFree86-4-libraries would be my guess. -- Eric Anholt eta@lclark.edu http://people.freebsd.org/~anholt/ anholt@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 22:35:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B21D216A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 22:35:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from priv-edtnes27.telusplanet.net (outbound04.telus.net [199.185.220.223]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51ACF43D31 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 22:35:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from graham.north@telus.net) Received: from phoenix ([142.173.17.246]) by priv-edtnes27.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.6.01.03.02 201-2131-111-104-20040324) with ESMTP id <20040613223521.PTUJ29210.priv-edtnes27.telusplanet.net@phoenix>; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 16:35:21 -0600 Message-ID: <002001c45196$c27358a0$627ba8c0@phoenix> From: "Graham North" To: "Peter Ulrich Kruppa" References: <002201c45111$801acb30$627ba8c0@phoenix> <20040613101323.Q2197@pukruppa.net> <002301c45177$8d6f5ba0$627ba8c0@phoenix> <20040613214533.J842@pukruppa.net> Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 15:35:41 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 cc: tim@typhoon.techvalley.ca cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Pruning the Ports Tree X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 22:35:34 -0000 Hi Uli: Thanks again. There was an email from Mathew Seaman - however it came as only attachments, and not knowing him I did not open them - there was not text at all in the body of the email. Maybe I will now open it.. I do not know anything much about inodes or file handles either... My thinking was to just use brute force and chop away much of the ports collection that I am not likely to need on my little web server. There are a myriad of ports for audio, games etc. not to mention X files. That should free up a lot of file handles. I don't want to put everything into too much of a tizzy however the next time I update them. Probably the most sensible thing to do is simply remove it entirely and just do single port upgrades as needs be. Cheers, Graham/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Ulrich Kruppa" To: "Graham North" Cc: ; Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 3:11 PM Subject: Re: Pruning the Ports Tree > On Sun, 13 Jun 2004, Graham North wrote: > > > Hi Uli and the rest of the FreeBSD forum: > > > > Thanks for your advice - though I am not entirely sure what the purpose of > > your last questions are. > I wanted to know about your ressources, since your ports dirctory > might grow very big, if you don't clean it up every now and then. > Matthew gave some hints about that at the last part of his mail. > > I hardly know anything about inodes, but as far as I understand, > you would have to reformat your entire filesystem to change > anything about this. > > The simpliest way to update your system on a small hd > would be to keep strictly to binary upgrades and installations. > You won't need the ports directory then (neither the system > sources in /usr/src). > > Another simple idea would be to get another small hd somewhere, > devide it into two slices and mount one on /usr/ports and the > other on /usr/src . > This would give you enough space to do full rebuilds of your > system and your ports. > > If you have enough patience and time you can also download single > port directories from www.freebsd.org/ports, place them in > appropriate directories and try to make install them. > They will complain when they are missing some other port. > I have done that to set up a samba printer server, but next time > I will use binary packages. > > > Uli. > > > > > > > > > To answer though: > > My HD is about 1.2G - it is sharing 2.0G with another OS. > > /usr ~ 778M > > usr/ports ~247M > > total /usr being used is ~595M with about 183M free. > > > > The problem is not disk space - it appears to be file handles. Remember, > > those ports files are only about 0.5K each - so lots of inodes are being > > used in file infrastructure. Midnight Comm which I use for a lot of file > > navigation indicates that I had 99838 inodes available - of which there are > > now only 602 free! Yesterday that was about 900, but then I mirrored part > > of a friend's website and used another 300. > > As you can see, I need to free up some file handling capability. > > > > Thanks for any further advice you can give. > > > > Cheers, Graham/ > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Peter Ulrich Kruppa" > > To: "Graham North" > > Cc: > > Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 1:29 AM > > Subject: Re: Pruning the Ports Tree > > > > > >> On Sat, 12 Jun 2004, Graham North wrote: > >> > >>> Is it alright to prune the Ports tree - and still do updates later. > >>> > >>> I am running 4.8 stable and recently did a full Ports tree > >>> update using CVSUP. This generates several questions. 1) I > >>> took the advice of Michael Urban's book and upgraded from the > >>> "Head" of the source tree rather than from that for 4.8 - did I > >>> really want to do that? Does it matter for a Ports only > >>> updating? > >> It is recommended to use the appropriate kernel and base system > >> with your ports. Things might work the way you did it, or > >> (probably) not. > >> > >> 2) The tree is getting pretty big - result, lots of > >>> files. My hard drive is not very big - it is down to a few > >>> hundred inodes (file handles) within the usr directory. Can I > >>> prune the tree on my hard drive without compromising future > >>> updates? If it helps, my machine is not using X only command > >>> mode so there are lots of Ports that will never be made. > >> For further advices it would be helpful to know how big your hd > >> is and how much diskspace is used by your ports tree. > >> You can check the latter by > >> # du -h -d 1 > >> (see # man du) > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Uli. > >> > >>> Thanks for any help that can be offered. > >>> > >>> Graham/ > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >>> > >>> > >> > >> +---------------------------+ > >> | Peter Ulrich Kruppa | > >> | Wuppertal | > >> | Germany | > >> +---------------------------+ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > +---------------------------+ > | Peter Ulrich Kruppa | > | Wuppertal | > | Germany | > +---------------------------+ > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 22:41:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5A0916A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 22:41:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from priv-edtnes51.telusplanet.net (outbound04.telus.net [199.185.220.223]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2652A43D2D for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 22:41:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from graham.north@telus.net) Received: from phoenix ([142.173.17.246]) by priv-edtnes51.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.6.01.03.02 201-2131-111-104-20040324) with ESMTP id <20040613224132.VKEI4695.priv-edtnes51.telusplanet.net@phoenix>; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 16:41:32 -0600 Message-ID: <003901c45197$9feda640$627ba8c0@phoenix> From: "Graham North" To: "Matthew Seaman" References: <002201c45111$801acb30$627ba8c0@phoenix> <20040613090822.GB75168@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 15:41:53 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 cc: robert@irrelevant.com cc: tim@typhoon.techvalley.ca cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: "Fong, Nicholas" Subject: Re: Pruning the Ports Tree X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 22:41:38 -0000 Hello Mathew: Thanks for this great reply. I will try some of your suggestions to remove files. I did not open it at first because it came as two attachments a txt file and a dat file. What is your rationale for doing this? What is the dat file - that still remains unopened. Cheers, Graham/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Seaman" To: "Graham North" Cc: ; ; ; "Fong, Nicholas" Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 2:08 AM Subject: Re: Pruning the Ports Tree From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 22:48:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72C4F16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 22:48:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-out.net.ipl.pt (31.220.137.193.in-addr.arpa [193.137.220.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F82543D49 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 22:48:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rpalves@cc.isel.ipl.pt) Received: (qmail 3895 invoked by uid 508); 13 Jun 2004 23:48:09 +0100 Received: from rpalves@cc.isel.ipl.pt by smtp-int.net.ipl.pt by uid 89 with qmail-scannerClear:RC:0(213.22.49.96):SA:0(0.3/5.0):. 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(rpalves@cc.isel.ipl.pt@213.22.49.96) by 0 with SMTP; 13 Jun 2004 23:48:06 +0100 From: Rui Alves To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1087166874.769.2.camel@pardal> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 23:47:54 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on 'mailrelay.net.ipl.pt' X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=no version=2.63 Subject: Installing Websphere Studio Application Developer for Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 22:48:14 -0000 Hello! I'm trying to install Websphere Studio Application Developer for Linux (eclipse based) and I don't know what to do... I've run wsextract.bin to extract the binary files and all I get is a java.core. as anyone tried to install a similar software under freebsd and got this kind of problems? Thanks Rui Alves From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 23:00:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11C2016A4CE; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 23:00:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from access.inet.co.th (access.inet.co.th [203.151.127.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32BF243D55; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 23:00:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pirat@access.inet.co.th) Received: from firak.thai-aec.org (TruPPPv92-230-202.inet.co.th [203.151.230.202]) by access.inet.co.th (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i5DMxrYR032980; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 05:59:56 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from pirat@access.inet.co.th) Received: from firak.thai-aec.org (localhost.thai-aec.org [127.0.0.1]) by firak.thai-aec.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i5DN5qJ3014831; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 06:05:52 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from pirat@access.inet.co.th) Received: (from pirat@localhost) by firak.thai-aec.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i5DN5ndS014830; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 06:05:49 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from pirat@access.inet.co.th) X-Authentication-Warning: firak.thai-aec.org: pirat set sender to pirat@access.inet.co.th using -f Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 06:05:49 +0700 From: pirat To: George Keramidas Message-ID: <20040613230548.GA10249@thai-aec.org> References: <20040610144901.GA16706@thai-aec.org> <20040610234126.GA481@thai-aec.org> <20040611070010.GD2685@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=tis-620 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040611070010.GD2685@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD firak.thai-aec.org 4.10-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.10-RELEASE www-home-page: http://www.thai-aec.org www-FreeBSD-page: http://www.thai.net/makham cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: -current boot bring to db> prompt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 23:00:53 -0000 On Friday, 11 June 2004 at 10:00:10 +0300, George Keramidas wrote: > Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 10:00:10 +0300 > From: George Keramidas > To: pirat > Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: -current boot bring to db> prompt > > On 2004-06-11 06:41, pirat wrote: > >On Thursday, 10 June 2004 at 21:49:01 +0700, pirat wrote: > >> > > > > now that i can get rid of that harm ltmdm.ko > > once again apologize me for disturbing the lists > > There's, really, no need to apologise. > no sir, i have to do. > The answer you posted, the solution to a problem more common than you > probably think it is (preloading or unloading modules at boot time), is > very probably going to be interesting for a lot of people. > my only reason to follow up. > Agreed, this has already been mentioned in past posts which live in the > the archives now, but you get extra karma points for discovering the > solution yourself *and* posting it as a followup. > frankly speaking or writing, i did by my instinc. after trying a few command at db> prompt, i get back to reboot by reset command. two or three times after reboot, a menu number 6 that i need appear to my eyes. and a few trying once again plus some memories of texts from document or handbook or FAQ suggest me to do sequences of unload/load/boot. sure enough, that brings me to db> prompt during the first 2-3 trying. that machine uname is [inspiron] ~ > uname -a FreeBSD inspiron.thai-aec.org 5.2-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.2-CURRENT #8: Wed Jun 9 15: 01:14 ICT 2004 root@inspiron.thai-aec.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/Inspiron i38 6 [inspiron] ~ > Inspiron is nothing but a copied of GENERIC and replace GENERIC with Inspiron anyway, i need to express my sincere thanks to FreeBSD team, to documentation project team, to the lists and to you too. > Thanks, that was cool :) > > - Giorgos -- with best regards, psr http://www.thai-aec.org http://www.thai.net/makham From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 23:36:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C20D16A4CE; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 23:36:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ylpvm01.prodigy.net (ylpvm01-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.57.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0A7243D2D; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 23:36:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-35.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.35])i5DNaInI014590; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 19:36:18 -0400 Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C2C365192F; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 16:36:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 16:36:18 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: atk2@arctic.org Message-ID: <20040613233618.GA74487@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20040613222624.19347.qmail@twinlark.arctic.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="n8g4imXOkfNTN/H1" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040613222624.19347.qmail@twinlark.arctic.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: more on XFree86-4 problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 23:36:31 -0000 --n8g4imXOkfNTN/H1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jun 13, 2004 at 10:26:24PM -0000, atk2@arctic.org wrote: >=20 > Ok - I decided that perhaps my problem was a undetected conflict in old > packages - i deleted most of my old package and now the current error I > get is: You probably still have stale XFree86 3.x files installed, which can confuse the XFree86 4.x build. Deinstall your old XFree86 and imake packages first, and retry. If you still have problems, it's likely because you have files installed that are unclaimed by any port. The pkg_which utility, part of portupgrade, can help to track down such files; see the manpage. Kris --n8g4imXOkfNTN/H1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFAzOTyWry0BWjoQKURAmzqAJ4i5cK1IfvntaoRy/7IupLyxA1SPwCeM1gQ Z1wnVQhxzdCPijlRcwKaxWY= =cnvH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --n8g4imXOkfNTN/H1-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 23:46:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95EF316A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 23:46:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net (scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.49]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 768B343D31 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 23:46:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rperry4@earthlink.net) Received: from dialup-4.250.42.232.dial1.weehawken1.level3.net ([4.250.42.232] helo=sphinx.alpha.domain) by scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1BZegS-00043x-00 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 16:46:40 -0700 Received: from sphinx.alpha.domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sphinx.alpha.domain (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i5DNmSWn001183 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 19:48:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rperry4@earthlink.net) Received: (from rperry@localhost) by sphinx.alpha.domain (8.12.9p2/8.12.9/Submit) id i5DNmMXU001182 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 19:48:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rperry4@earthlink.net) X-Authentication-Warning: sphinx.alpha.domain: rperry set sender to rperry4@earthlink.net using -f Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 19:48:21 -0400 From: Bob Perry To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20040613234821.GB283@sphinx.alpha.domain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Help With Selection of Database Application X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 23:46:42 -0000 I've had extensive experience with MS Access as a user and would like to port a comparable system into my FreeBSD box. Can anyone recommend a database application similar to Access? I've looked through the ports but can't seem to readily make that distinction without the expertise of a DBA. If this is not the type of question supported by this mailing list, please disregard. Bob Perry -- I've learned that whatever hits the fan will not be evenly distributed. FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE-p2 #0 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 00:24:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F5FD16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 00:24:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from invasion.mail.pas.earthlink.net (invasion.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A6D443D45 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 00:24:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from 20-74.lctv-b4.cablelynx.com ([24.204.20.74] helo=yoda.datawok.com) by invasion.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 3.36 #4) id 1BZfGc-0003dJ-00; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 17:24:02 -0700 Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 19:24:52 -0500 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: Bob Perry Message-Id: <20040613192452.7499e92e.algould@datawok.com> In-Reply-To: <20040613234821.GB283@sphinx.alpha.domain> References: <20040613234821.GB283@sphinx.alpha.domain> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.9-gtk2-20040229 (GTK+ 2.4.0; i386-portbld-freebsd4.10) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69564776905774d2ac4b3485828c3208bf7156af4b5e86f06546350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Help With Selection of Database Application X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 00:24:31 -0000 On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 19:48:21 -0400 Bob Perry wrote: > I've had extensive experience with MS Access as a user > and would like to port a comparable system into my FreeBSD > box. Can anyone recommend a database application similar to > Access? I've looked through the ports but can't seem > to readily make that distinction without the expertise > of a DBA. > > If this is not the type of question supported by this > mailing list, please disregard. > > Bob Perry I also use MS Access extensively at work. MS Access has many facets; so the answer to you're question depends upon how you use MS Access: 1. If you've been using MS Access as a database server, I think you'll be much happier with the likes of PostgreSQL, MySQL or Firebird. All 3 are available in the ports. 2. If you're looking for a database application with GUI RAD capabilities similar to MS Access, there are some applications available; but most focus on database administration (simple queries) rather than end-user application development. You might take a look at PgAdmin III, which is crossplatform, but requires PostgreSQL as the back-end server. You can find it in the ports (/usr/ports/databases/pgadmin3) or at: http://www.pgadmin.org/pgadmin3/index.php There is also a KDE project called "Kexi", which looks promising; but I don't think it's soup yet: http://www.kexi-project.org 3. If you're looking for a GUI that facilitates joining/analyzing tables from different servers (PostgreSQL and MySQL tables, for example), I think you're out of luck. I run a PostgreSQL server on FreeBSD at work. It supplements the Decision Support System and handles the back-end for a few MS Access applications. The combo works very well as long as your binary fields (boolean, etc) are defined as "not null" with default values. Best of luck, Andrew Gould From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 00:41:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4563D16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 00:41:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail016.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail016.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.167]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D81C643D4C for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 00:41:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from amcllists@optusnet.com.au) Received: from amclarenh1 (c211-30-186-9.rivrw1.nsw.optusnet.com.au [211.30.186.9])i5E0exA02522 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 10:40:59 +1000 Message-Id: <200406140040.i5E0exA02522@mail016.syd.optusnet.com.au> From: "Andrew McLaren" To: Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 10:41:08 +1000 Organization: Not much ... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AcRRqEhOF0bMnorYS4yKghiU55RYyQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Subject: Default make.conf in FreeBSD 5.x? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 00:41:16 -0000 Hi all, Apologies in advance for what might be a dumb question - but I have = searched Readmes, UPDATE, Handbook, FAQ, Google, without finding the = answer ... In FreeBSD 4, there was a /etc/defaults/make.conf; and a /etc/make.conf = with my own make overrides. But when I install FreeBSD 5.2.1, there is no make.conf in the = /etc/defaults directory. Also, /etc/make.conf only contains a couple of = lines; nothing about CFLAGS, CPUTYPE, MASTERSORTREGEX etc. Was there a deliberate design change in 5.x to remove the default = make.conf? And if so, can I just use a make.conf from one of my 4.x = boxes copied to /etc/make.conf? Or should I now specify my make = over-rides in some new way? Many thanks for any guidance! Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 00:57:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6CF716A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 00:57:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hydrogen.systemloop.com (pcp03074635pcs.csouth01.va.comcast.net [68.57.47.110]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85D1843D1F for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 00:57:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from limited7@hydrogen.systemloop.com) Received: from hydrogen.systemloop.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i5DKuq3S000437 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 20:56:52 GMT (envelope-from limited7@hydrogen.systemloop.com) Received: (from limited7@localhost) by hydrogen.systemloop.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i5DKuq8b000436 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 20:56:52 GMT (envelope-from limited7) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 20:56:52 +0000 From: ray To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040613205652.GB414@systemloop.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: apm support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 00:57:35 -0000 hi, i have a Sony Vaio PCG-GRZ660 laptop and i'm trying to get apm to work. i have the apmd running. apm displays this: ~# apm APM version: 1.2 APM Management: Disabled AC Line status: on-line Battery status: unknown Remaining battery life: unknown Remaining battery time: unknown Number of batteries: 0 Resume timer: disabled Resume on ring indicator: disabled APM Capacities: global standby state global suspend state resume timer from standby resume timer from suspend if i try to go in standby mode, it says: ~# apm -Z apm: ioctl(APMIO_STANDBY): Invalid argument how can i get it to go to standby mode, and also how can i get it to display battery status and show if the ac adapter is plugged in or not? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 01:03:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAE0F16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 01:03:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ssigc.net (dsl092-076-115.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.76.115]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49A0743D31 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 01:03:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from info@mvcg.net) Received: from ssigc.net (localhost [10.10.10.13] (may be forged)) by ssigc.net (8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i5E14njo076336; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 21:04:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from NEON-DURON ([10.10.10.11]) by ssigc.net (MailMonitor for SMTP v1.2.2 ) ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 21:04:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <00c501c451ab$8b8abf80$0b0a0a0a@neonduron> From: "Thomas Farrell" To: "Bob Perry" , References: <20040613234821.GB283@sphinx.alpha.domain> Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 21:04:28 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: Re: Help With Selection of Database Application X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 01:03:22 -0000 You might want to look at MySQL. There is tons of online resources. Here are a few places to get started. http://dev.mysql.com/doc/ http://www.cs.wcupa.edu/~rkline/mysqlEZinfo/perl_dbi.html http://216.239.39.104/search?q=cache:YUq8C0ZDFEkJ:miner.chem.purdue.edu/Lect ures/Lecture24.pdf++DBI+mysql+DBI+insert+data&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 http://www.info.lk/techweb/mysql/mysql_tutor.htm http://perl.about.com/library/weekly/aa021401c.htm Check out CGI/perl & learn a little about cpan and the DBI mdoule. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Perry" To: Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 7:48 PM Subject: Help With Selection of Database Application > I've had extensive experience with MS Access as a user > and would like to port a comparable system into my FreeBSD > box. Can anyone recommend a database application similar to > Access? I've looked through the ports but can't seem > to readily make that distinction without the expertise > of a DBA. > > If this is not the type of question supported by this > mailing list, please disregard. > > Bob Perry > > > -- > I've learned that whatever hits the fan will not be evenly > distributed. > > FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE-p2 #0 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 01:12:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EE4E16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 01:12:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net (swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64D0E43D41 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 01:12:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rperry4@earthlink.net) Received: from dialup-4.250.42.232.dial1.weehawken1.level3.net ([4.250.42.232] helo=sphinx.alpha.domain) by swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1BZg0x-00057u-00; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 18:11:55 -0700 Received: from sphinx.alpha.domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sphinx.alpha.domain (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i5E1DhWn001303; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 21:13:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rperry4@earthlink.net) Received: (from rperry@localhost) by sphinx.alpha.domain (8.12.9p2/8.12.9/Submit) id i5E1Dflp001300; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 21:13:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rperry4@earthlink.net) X-Authentication-Warning: sphinx.alpha.domain: rperry set sender to rperry4@earthlink.net using -f Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 21:13:40 -0400 From: Bob Perry To: "Andrew L. Gould" Message-ID: <20040614011340.GC283@sphinx.alpha.domain> References: <20040613234821.GB283@sphinx.alpha.domain> <20040613192452.7499e92e.algould@datawok.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040613192452.7499e92e.algould@datawok.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Help With Selection of Database Application X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 01:12:06 -0000 On (06/13/04 19:24), Andrew L. Gould wrote: > Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 19:24:52 -0500 > From: "Andrew L. Gould" > To: Bob Perry > Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org > Subject: Re: Help With Selection of Database Application > X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.9-gtk2-20040229 (GTK+ 2.4.0; i386-portbld-freebsd4.10) > > On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 19:48:21 -0400 > Bob Perry wrote: > > > I've had extensive experience with MS Access as a user > > and would like to port a comparable system into my FreeBSD > > box. Can anyone recommend a database application similar to > > Access? I've looked through the ports but can't seem > > to readily make that distinction without the expertise > > of a DBA. > > > > If this is not the type of question supported by this > > mailing list, please disregard. > > > > Bob Perry > > I also use MS Access extensively at work. MS Access has many facets; so > the answer to you're question depends upon how you use MS Access: > > 1. If you've been using MS Access as a database server, I think you'll > be much happier with the likes of PostgreSQL, MySQL or Firebird. All 3 > are available in the ports. > > 2. If you're looking for a database application with GUI RAD > capabilities similar to MS Access, there are some applications > available; but most focus on database administration (simple queries) > rather than end-user application development. You might take a look at > PgAdmin III, which is crossplatform, but requires PostgreSQL as the > back-end server. You can find it in the ports > (/usr/ports/databases/pgadmin3) or at: > http://www.pgadmin.org/pgadmin3/index.php > > There is also a KDE project called "Kexi", which looks promising; but I > don't think it's soup yet: http://www.kexi-project.org > > 3. If you're looking for a GUI that facilitates joining/analyzing > tables from different servers (PostgreSQL and MySQL tables, for > example), I think you're out of luck. > > I run a PostgreSQL server on FreeBSD at work. It supplements the > Decision Support System and handles the back-end for a few MS Access > applications. The combo works very well as long as your binary fields > (boolean, etc) are defined as "not null" with default values. > > Best of luck, > > Andrew Gould Andrew, This is exactly the type of information I was looking for. Thanks so much for taking the time. The Kexi project is what I was hoping for however, I'm not running KDE and the project, as you say, is not soup yet. I like the PgAdmin III project and intend to give it a good look see. Thanks again for your help. Bob Perry -- I've learned that whatever hits the fan will not be evenly distributed. FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE-p2 #0 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 01:29:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D08E16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 01:29:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.ohiordc.rr.com (ms-smtp-02-smtplb.ohiordc.rr.com [65.24.5.136]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3EF243D2D for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 01:29:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmehler26@woh.rr.com) Received: from satellite (dhcp065-031-041-029.woh.rr.com [65.31.41.29]) i5E1RsVG003302; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 21:27:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <002701c451ad$8910fb00$0200a8c0@satellite> From: "dave" To: "Eric Crist" , References: <000e01c4510f$540e2930$6401a8c0@Nomad> Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 21:13:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: apache2 port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 01:29:13 -0000 Hello, Thanks for your reply. I checked the DirectoryIndex parameter. It has index.html in it and there is a file index.html in the web area. Permissions on it do allow it to be read. As i said i find it strange that it is showing a folderized listing of the site vs. the main index page. Thanks. Dave. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 01:37:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07C7316A4D0 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 01:37:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.ohiordc.rr.com (ms-smtp-01-smtplb.ohiordc.rr.com [65.24.5.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85AE043D2D for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 01:37:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmehler26@woh.rr.com) Received: from satellite (dhcp065-031-041-029.woh.rr.com [65.31.41.29]) i5E1ZOvJ015109 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 21:35:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <002f01c451ae$954171b0$0200a8c0@satellite> From: "dave" To: Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 21:26:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: limiting where a user can log in from X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 01:37:06 -0000 Hello, I've got a box that has two user's on it with no passwords, yes i know i know that's a bad idea, but there it is. I only want them logging on via the local network and not from telnet/ssh/anything related to the external interface which is rl0. I believe i should use something to do with login.access or login.conf, but am unsure as to what? Thanks. Dave. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 01:48:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C94D16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 01:48:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ssigc.net (dsl092-076-115.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.76.115]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3B4843D2D for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 01:48:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from info@mvcg.net) Received: from ssigc.net (localhost [10.10.10.13] (may be forged)) by ssigc.net (8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i5E1matL076466; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 21:48:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from NEON-DURON ([10.10.10.11]) by ssigc.net (MailMonitor for SMTP v1.2.2 ) ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 21:48:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <00f601c451b1$a9b37c30$0b0a0a0a@neonduron> From: "Thomas Farrell" To: "dave" , References: <002f01c451ae$954171b0$0200a8c0@satellite> Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 21:48:16 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: Re: limiting where a user can log in from X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 01:48:20 -0000 What is the ip address of this server? and what accounts have no passwords? you may want to take a look at the file /etc/hosts.allow ----- Original Message ----- From: "dave" To: Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 9:26 PM Subject: limiting where a user can log in from > Hello, > I've got a box that has two user's on it with no passwords, yes i know i > know that's a bad idea, but there it is. I only want them logging on via the > local network and not from telnet/ssh/anything related to the external > interface which is rl0. I believe i should use something to do with > login.access or login.conf, but am unsure as to what? > Thanks. > Dave. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 01:59:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EA7116A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 01:59:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bilbo.otenet.gr (bilbo.otenet.gr [195.170.0.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9A2843D39 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 01:59:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-b138.otenet.gr [212.205.244.146]) i5E1wrCo028828; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 04:58:54 +0300 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i5E1wpd2001232; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 04:58:51 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i5E1wp5s001231; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 04:58:51 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 04:58:51 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Andrew McLaren Message-ID: <20040614015851.GA1199@gothmog.gr> References: <200406140040.i5E0exA02522@mail016.syd.optusnet.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200406140040.i5E0exA02522@mail016.syd.optusnet.com.au> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Default make.conf in FreeBSD 5.x? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 01:59:55 -0000 On 2004-06-14 10:41, Andrew McLaren wrote: > > In FreeBSD 4, there was a /etc/defaults/make.conf; and a > /etc/make.conf with my own make overrides. > > But when I install FreeBSD 5.2.1, there is no make.conf in the > /etc/defaults directory. Also, /etc/make.conf only contains a couple > of lines; nothing about CFLAGS, CPUTYPE, MASTERSORTREGEX etc. The file has moved: $ ls -l /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel - 11815 Jun 10 05:09 /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 02:10:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A360916A4D1 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 02:10:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kogut2.o2.pl (kogut2.o2.pl [212.126.20.58]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED2FA43D2D for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 02:10:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fangorn@o2.pl) Received: from [172.16.0.2] (d088.2-0.pl [195.150.72.149]) by kogut2.o2.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9AE5A9FD6 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 04:09:44 +0200 (CEST) From: Fangorn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1087178986.588.37.camel@desk.myroom.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 04:09:47 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Multiple_External_IPs+IPFW+arp_proxy+Dummynet+natd_etc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 02:10:12 -0000 Hello! FreeBSD 5.2.1, IPFW(2 of course), 1 ext_if, 2 int_ifs, P200MMX, 96MB, HDD 2GB I have recently set up a router serving and shaping a small network +/-20 clients (mostly wireless, but that's not important, as the AP does the job). I do a static ARP, I have quite a simple firewall, of course natd is up and running fine. Some pipes and queues pretend to share the traffic fairly :). Now my concern is: 1. What is the best way to assign an external IP (I have 4 available) to a LAN client machine? 2. How (if at all) it affects traffic shaping? I would be greatful for a bunch of ideas and eternally greatful for examples of working scripts/firewall rules etc. Disclaimer: Yes, I did a google research, and found nothing that would cover the afformentioned problem. :-) At least nothing else than 'Well, you might try this ports thingy, but I don't really know if it helps.' ;-D PS: (or BTW) Maybe someone also has a solution to a problem of sharing two external connections in a reasonable way in such a network? Of course load-balancing would be desirable, but any working examples are welcome. Thank You for Your patience. -- Best regards, Fangorn fangorn@o2.pl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 02:23:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8CCD16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 02:23:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from invasion.mail.pas.earthlink.net (invasion.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ED4A43D39 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 02:23:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from 20-74.lctv-b4.cablelynx.com ([24.204.20.74] helo=yoda.datawok.com) by invasion.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 3.36 #4) id 1BZh8D-0005MG-00; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 19:23:30 -0700 Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 21:24:20 -0500 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: Bob Perry Message-Id: <20040613212420.61f7ec53.algould@datawok.com> In-Reply-To: <20040614011340.GC283@sphinx.alpha.domain> References: <20040613234821.GB283@sphinx.alpha.domain> <20040613192452.7499e92e.algould@datawok.com> <20040614011340.GC283@sphinx.alpha.domain> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.9-gtk2-20040229 (GTK+ 2.4.0; i386-portbld-freebsd4.10) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69564776905774d2ac4bc8b569e4a654b90b51b293acdd2cf941350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Help With Selection of Database Application X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 02:23:41 -0000 On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 21:13:40 -0400 Bob Perry wrote: > On (06/13/04 19:24), Andrew L. Gould wrote: > > Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 19:24:52 -0500 > > From: "Andrew L. Gould" > > To: Bob Perry > > Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org > > Subject: Re: Help With Selection of Database Application > > X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.9-gtk2-20040229 (GTK+ 2.4.0; > > i386-portbld-freebsd4.10) > > > > On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 19:48:21 -0400 > > Bob Perry wrote: > > > > > I've had extensive experience with MS Access as a user > > > and would like to port a comparable system into my FreeBSD > > > box. Can anyone recommend a database application similar to > > > Access? I've looked through the ports but can't seem > > > to readily make that distinction without the expertise > > > of a DBA. > > > > > > If this is not the type of question supported by this > > > mailing list, please disregard. > > > > > > Bob Perry > > > > I also use MS Access extensively at work. MS Access has many > > facets; so the answer to you're question depends upon how you use MS > > Access: > > > > 1. If you've been using MS Access as a database server, I think > > you'll be much happier with the likes of PostgreSQL, MySQL or > > Firebird. All 3 are available in the ports. > > > > 2. If you're looking for a database application with GUI RAD > > capabilities similar to MS Access, there are some applications > > available; but most focus on database administration (simple > > queries) rather than end-user application development. You might > > take a look at PgAdmin III, which is crossplatform, but requires > > PostgreSQL as the back-end server. You can find it in the ports > > (/usr/ports/databases/pgadmin3) or at: > > http://www.pgadmin.org/pgadmin3/index.php > > > > There is also a KDE project called "Kexi", which looks promising; > > but I don't think it's soup yet: http://www.kexi-project.org > > > > 3. If you're looking for a GUI that facilitates joining/analyzing > > tables from different servers (PostgreSQL and MySQL tables, for > > example), I think you're out of luck. > > > > I run a PostgreSQL server on FreeBSD at work. It supplements the > > Decision Support System and handles the back-end for a few MS Access > > applications. The combo works very well as long as your binary > > fields(boolean, etc) are defined as "not null" with default values. > > > > Best of luck, > > > > Andrew Gould > > Andrew, > > This is exactly the type of information I was looking for. Thanks > so much for taking the time. > > The Kexi project is what I was hoping for however, I'm not > running KDE and the project, as you say, is not soup yet. > > I like the PgAdmin III project and intend to give it a good > look see. > > Thanks again for your help. > > Bob Perry Hi Bob, We're both looking for the same thing. If you find it, please let me know! ;-) I installed KDE and use a couple of its applications from within XFCE4 -- they work just fine. I use Konqueror for its webdavs (webdav via ssl) client support -- something missing in Mozilla. Ksnapshot is pretty cool. I used to use KMail; but am giving Sylpheed a try. KMail supports more complex filters; so I may go back. When Kexi matures, you might consider giving KDE it a try. Have a great week. Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 03:52:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74A6D16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 03:52:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail015.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail015.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D4C943D1F for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 03:52:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from amcllists@optusnet.com.au) Received: from amclarenh1 (c211-30-186-9.rivrw1.nsw.optusnet.com.au [211.30.186.9])i5E3p7N14792; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 13:51:07 +1000 Message-Id: <200406140351.i5E3p7N14792@mail015.syd.optusnet.com.au> From: "Andrew McLaren" To: Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 13:51:17 +1000 Organization: Not much ... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AcRRs1wiQu8H01l3RkClsNHhyLabpQADskzw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 In-Reply-To: <20040614015851.GA1199@gothmog.gr> cc: 'Giorgos Keramidas' Subject: RE: Default make.conf in FreeBSD 5.x? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 03:52:16 -0000 Thanks, Giorgos. To clarify: yes, there's a *sample* file here, under /usr/share/examples. If I want the make.conf to actually be read and used when compiling something, I still need to move it to /etc/make.conf. Right? Thanks Andrew -----Original Message----- > But when I install FreeBSD 5.2.1, there is no make.conf in the > /etc/defaults directory. Also, /etc/make.conf only contains a couple > of lines; nothing about CFLAGS, CPUTYPE, MASTERSORTREGEX etc. The file has moved: $ ls -l /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel - 11815 Jun 10 05:09 /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 04:00:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE60B16A4D0 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 04:00:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [208.162.254.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E24A943D5E for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 04:00:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF28BB9DB for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 23:00:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (kanga.honeypot.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 54422-10 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 23:00:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from pooh.strauser.com (pooh.honeypot.net [10.0.5.128]) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 499BDB9D6 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 23:00:03 -0500 (CDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <002f01c451ae$954171b0$0200a8c0@satellite> From: Kirk Strauser Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 23:00:02 -0500 In-Reply-To: <002f01c451ae$954171b0$0200a8c0@satellite> (dmehler26@woh.rr.com's message of "Sun, 13 Jun 2004 21:26:09 -0400") Message-ID: <878yeqdc1p.fsf@strauser.com> Lines: 15 X-Mailer: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at honeypot.net Subject: Re: limiting where a user can log in from X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 04:00:49 -0000 At 2004-06-14T01:26:09Z, "dave" writes: > I've got a box that has two user's on it with no passwords, yes i know i > know that's a bad idea, but there it is. Full stop. Don't do that. Even if you think you *have* to, you really don't. There is nothing you could possibly be wanting to do that can only be solved by having passwordless users. -- Kirk Strauser "94 outdated ports on the box, 94 outdated ports. Portupgrade one, an hour 'til done, 82 outdated ports on the box." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 04:14:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D5E216A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 04:14:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.adl2.internode.on.net (smtp1.adl2.internode.on.net [203.16.214.181]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C69B43D46 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 04:14:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from malcolm.kay@internode.on.net) Received: from beta.home (ppp129-18.lns1.adl2.internode.on.net [150.101.129.18])i5E4ET4Y090088 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 13:44:30 +0930 (CST) From: Malcolm Kay Organization: at home To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 13:44:28 +0930 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200406141344.29066.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> Subject: libieee1284 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 04:14:32 -0000 I have a Canon parallel port scanner. Apparently to operate this under 'sane' I need libieee1284. It seems this supports some higher level parallel port activity. Ive not been able to find this in the official FreeBSD ports. Is there a port out there that works under FreeBSD? Does someone have a Canon N340P interfaced to FreeBSD? Running release 4.9 here. Thanks for any information or thoughts. Malcolm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 04:25:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C54C16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 04:25:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from danu.intersiege.com (dsl092-163-205.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.163.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DF9D43D2F for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 04:25:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from reed@intersiege.com) Received: from [192.168.2.147] (unknown [192.168.2.147]) by danu.intersiege.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEB3C1147E; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 00:25:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <40CD28B1.10606@intersiege.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 00:25:21 -0400 From: "Reed L. O'Brien" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (Windows/20040502) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <002f01c451ae$954171b0$0200a8c0@satellite> <00f601c451b1$a9b37c30$0b0a0a0a@neonduron> In-Reply-To: <00f601c451b1$a9b37c30$0b0a0a0a@neonduron> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Thomas Farrell Subject: Re: limiting where a user can log in from X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 04:25:29 -0000 Please Please PLEASE DO NOT answer the questions below. In fact PLEASE never ask such questions again. Thomas Farrell wrote: >What is the ip address of this server? and what accounts have no passwords? >you may want to take a look at the file /etc/hosts.allow >----- Original Message ----- >From: "dave" >To: >Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 9:26 PM >Subject: limiting where a user can log in from > > > > >>Hello, >> I've got a box that has two user's on it with no passwords, yes i know >> >> >i > > >>know that's a bad idea, but there it is. I only want them logging on via >> >> >the > > >>local network and not from telnet/ssh/anything related to the external >>interface which is rl0. I believe i should use something to do with >>login.access or login.conf, but am unsure as to what? >>Thanks. >>Dave. >> >>_______________________________________________ >>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> >> >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > >> >> > > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 04:37:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F38116A50A for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 04:37:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dsl-mail.kamp.net (mail.kamp-dsl.de [195.62.99.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5C69E43D4C for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 04:37:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@pukruppa.de) Received: (qmail 15442 invoked by uid 513); 14 Jun 2004 04:41:31 -0000 Received: from root@pukruppa.de by dsl-mail by uid 89 with qmail-scanner-1.21 Clear:RC:1(213.146.114.24):SA:0(-4.9/5.0):. Processed in 1.283944 secs); 14 Jun 2004 04:41:31 -0000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 Received: from unknown (HELO reverse-213-146-114-24.dialin.kamp-dsl.de) (213.146.114.24) by dsl-mail.kamp.net with SMTP; 14 Jun 2004 04:41:30 -0000 Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 06:38:34 +0200 (CEST) From: Peter Ulrich Kruppa X-X-Sender: root@pukruppa.net To: Graham North In-Reply-To: <002001c45196$c27358a0$627ba8c0@phoenix> Message-ID: <20040614062106.X842@pukruppa.net> References: <002201c45111$801acb30$627ba8c0@phoenix> <20040613101323.Q2197@pukruppa.net><20040613214533.J842@pukruppa.net> <002001c45196$c27358a0$627ba8c0@phoenix> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: tim@typhoon.techvalley.ca cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Pruning the Ports Tree X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 04:37:51 -0000 On Sun, 13 Jun 2004, Graham North wrote: > Hi Uli: > Thanks again. There was an email from Mathew Seaman - however it came as > only attachments, and not knowing him I did not open them - there was not > text at all in the body of the email. > Maybe I will now open it.. I read my emails with pine (a console mail client) on my FreeBSD system - no chance for Windows virii. > I do not know anything much about inodes or file handles either... My > thinking was to just use brute force and chop away much of the ports > collection that I am not likely to need on my little web server. Too true, you would need - apache (and if you like mod_php and mysql ???) - midnight commander (mc) for file management - a console browser (links or lynx) for quick checks. Still I would recommend binary upgrades, these programs don't need any special compile time options. But that's your fun. Uli. > I don't want to put everything into too much of a tizzy however the next > time I update them. Probably the most sensible thing to do is simply remove > it entirely and just do single port upgrades as needs be. > > Cheers, Graham/ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Ulrich Kruppa" > To: "Graham North" > Cc: ; > Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 3:11 PM > Subject: Re: Pruning the Ports Tree > > >> On Sun, 13 Jun 2004, Graham North wrote: >> >>> Hi Uli and the rest of the FreeBSD forum: >>> >>> Thanks for your advice - though I am not entirely sure what the purpose > of >>> your last questions are. >> I wanted to know about your ressources, since your ports dirctory >> might grow very big, if you don't clean it up every now and then. >> Matthew gave some hints about that at the last part of his mail. >> >> I hardly know anything about inodes, but as far as I understand, >> you would have to reformat your entire filesystem to change >> anything about this. >> >> The simpliest way to update your system on a small hd >> would be to keep strictly to binary upgrades and installations. >> You won't need the ports directory then (neither the system >> sources in /usr/src). >> >> Another simple idea would be to get another small hd somewhere, >> devide it into two slices and mount one on /usr/ports and the >> other on /usr/src . >> This would give you enough space to do full rebuilds of your >> system and your ports. >> >> If you have enough patience and time you can also download single >> port directories from www.freebsd.org/ports, place them in >> appropriate directories and try to make install them. >> They will complain when they are missing some other port. >> I have done that to set up a samba printer server, but next time >> I will use binary packages. >> >> >> Uli. >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> To answer though: >>> My HD is about 1.2G - it is sharing 2.0G with another OS. >>> /usr ~ 778M >>> usr/ports ~247M >>> total /usr being used is ~595M with about 183M free. >>> >>> The problem is not disk space - it appears to be file handles. > Remember, >>> those ports files are only about 0.5K each - so lots of inodes are being >>> used in file infrastructure. Midnight Comm which I use for a lot of > file >>> navigation indicates that I had 99838 inodes available - of which there > are >>> now only 602 free! Yesterday that was about 900, but then I mirrored > part >>> of a friend's website and used another 300. >>> As you can see, I need to free up some file handling capability. >>> >>> Thanks for any further advice you can give. >>> >>> Cheers, Graham/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Peter Ulrich Kruppa" >>> To: "Graham North" >>> Cc: >>> Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 1:29 AM >>> Subject: Re: Pruning the Ports Tree >>> >>> >>>> On Sat, 12 Jun 2004, Graham North wrote: >>>> >>>>> Is it alright to prune the Ports tree - and still do updates later. >>>>> >>>>> I am running 4.8 stable and recently did a full Ports tree >>>>> update using CVSUP. This generates several questions. 1) I >>>>> took the advice of Michael Urban's book and upgraded from the >>>>> "Head" of the source tree rather than from that for 4.8 - did I >>>>> really want to do that? Does it matter for a Ports only >>>>> updating? >>>> It is recommended to use the appropriate kernel and base system >>>> with your ports. Things might work the way you did it, or >>>> (probably) not. >>>> >>>> 2) The tree is getting pretty big - result, lots of >>>>> files. My hard drive is not very big - it is down to a few >>>>> hundred inodes (file handles) within the usr directory. Can I >>>>> prune the tree on my hard drive without compromising future >>>>> updates? If it helps, my machine is not using X only command >>>>> mode so there are lots of Ports that will never be made. >>>> For further advices it would be helpful to know how big your hd >>>> is and how much diskspace is used by your ports tree. >>>> You can check the latter by >>>> # du -h -d 1 >>>> (see # man du) >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Uli. >>>> >>>>> Thanks for any help that can be offered. >>>>> >>>>> Graham/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> +---------------------------+ >>>> | Peter Ulrich Kruppa | >>>> | Wuppertal | >>>> | Germany | >>>> +---------------------------+ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >> >> +---------------------------+ >> | Peter Ulrich Kruppa | >> | Wuppertal | >> | Germany | >> +---------------------------+ >> > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > +---------------------------+ | Peter Ulrich Kruppa | | Wuppertal | | Germany | +---------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 05:36:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BA7F16A4D0 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 05:36:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from grog.secure-computing.net (grog.secure-computing.net [63.228.14.241]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24ADB43D39 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 05:36:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) Received: from Nomad (nat-server.secure-computing.net [63.228.14.245]) i5E5aQgT070498; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 00:36:27 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) From: "Eric Crist" To: "'dave'" , Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 00:19:09 -0500 Message-ID: <005101c451cf$2253bd90$6401a8c0@Nomad> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 In-Reply-To: <002701c451ad$8910fb00$0200a8c0@satellite> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: apache2 port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 05:36:50 -0000 Dave, Could you copy the and sections of your httpd.conf file, or just attach it to an email to me, so I can look it over? HTH Eric F Crist President AdTech Integrated Systems, Inc (612) 998-3588 > -----Original Message----- > From: dave [mailto:dmehler26@woh.rr.com] > Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 8:13 PM > To: Eric Crist; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: apache2 port > > > Hello, > Thanks for your reply. I checked the DirectoryIndex > parameter. It has index.html in it and there is a file > index.html in the web area. Permissions on it do allow it to > be read. As i said i find it strange that it is showing a > folderized listing of the site vs. the main index page. Thanks. Dave. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 06:04:05 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFB2F16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 06:04:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from webmail.tiscali.de (relay1.tiscali.de [62.26.116.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F20043D45 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 06:04:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sa.deutscher@tiscali.de) Received: from localhost (217.235.13.220) by webmail.tiscali.de (6.7.019) id 40C46DB800280FDC for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 08:04:03 +0200 Received: by localhost (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 2.0/2.0) id IAA242.12; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 08:19:53 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200406141219.IAA242.12@localhost> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 00:37:22 +0000 From: "Stefan A. Deutscher" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040614003722.A19831@tiscali.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.94.15i X-Operating-System: OS/2 2.45 X-Machine-Uptime: localhost: uptime is 4 days, 10:08 hours and 39 seconds Resent-From: sa.deutscher@tiscali.de Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 08:18:51 +0000 Resent-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Best place to spin down disk after boot? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: sad@mailaps.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 06:04:06 -0000 Hi, I have a 5.1Release machine with currently four SCSI disks, out of which I need only two at any given time (system and /home). The other ones are an alternative system disk, and an OS/2 disk. They are set to spin up by themselves or via start unit from the SCSI controller, but I wish to spin down the unused ones. I understand that frequent spin up/down or power cyles may reduce disk lifetime, but these disks are never accessed, i.e. never mounted and never spun up again while the system is running. To reduce noise and heat production, I am going to spin down two SCSI disks on one of my machines with camcontrol stop -n da -u 0 camcontrol stop -n da -u 2 (Odd enough, a 'camcontrol stop da0 does _not_ work, it needs separate -n and -u specs.) To spin down the disks right after boot, I ponder sticking things either in the /etc/rc.local (seems to be going out of style though) or as a separate script in /etc/rc.d/. Any thoughts on that would be appreciated. As these commands take a while to return with a success message I'd like to do that in the background, and I wish to log it somewhere. Is there 'the right' way to send the camcontrol messages to syslog or the dmesg file (all true believers shall open their egg at the right end!)? Cheers, Stefan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 06:10:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89D1916A53B for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 06:10:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from alstom-av-smtp3.gmessaging.net (alstom-av-smtp3.gmessaging.net [194.51.201.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC32E43D2D for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 06:10:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from monica.bose@itc.alstom.com) Received: from obiwan.transport.alstom.com (relay3 [172.24.21.37]) by alstom-av-smtp3.gmessaging.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.21 (built Sep 8 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HZA00HFRBU0V7@alstom-av-smtp3.gmessaging.net> for questions@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 08:10:49 +0200 (MEST) Received: from mz01world.transport.alstom.com (mz01world [10.3.4.18]) by obiwan.transport.alstom.com (8.12.2+Sun/8.12.2) with ESMTP id i5E6AiW1003739 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 08:10:50 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 11:28:37 +0530 From: monica.bose@itc.alstom.com To: "questions@FreeBSD.org" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.11 July 24, 2002 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on MZ01WORLD/GECALSTHOM(Release 5.0.11 |July 08:10:50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 06:10:58 -0000 In operating system 2000 server what service pack I have to install for installing the sap R3 4.6c sr2 . Whenever installing the ads form kernal cd [ path name : \NT\I386\MMC\ADS , it's giving the error 'Incorrect INF file syntax in section 'checkForPrevVer' . Why the error is coming & what will be the solution . I am sending you the procedure which i have taken . 1. I install the windows 2000 server . 2. driver installation . 3. Windows 2000 service pack 4 ( latest one) . 4 . make the logical partition . 5. installing r3 setup from kernal cd . 6. installing i386 7. installing ads { it's giving error ) Thanks :.________________ CONFIDENTIALITY : This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. If you are not a named recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to another person, use it for any purpose or store or copy the information in any medium. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 07:04:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5431316A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 07:04:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mcp.lphp.org (ASt-Lambert-152-2-6-220.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.120.202.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB1BE43D5F for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 07:04:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ajacoutot@lphp.org) Received: from bsdbox.lphp.local (bsdbox.lphp.local [192.168.0.2]) by mcp.lphp.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i5E740Rb070262 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 09:04:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ajacoutot@lphp.org) From: Antoine Jacoutot To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 09:04:00 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <200406140040.i5E0exA02522@mail016.syd.optusnet.com.au> In-Reply-To: <200406140040.i5E0exA02522@mail016.syd.optusnet.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200406140904.00287.ajacoutot@lphp.org> Subject: Re: Default make.conf in FreeBSD 5.x? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 07:04:18 -0000 On Monday 14 June 2004 02:41, Andrew McLaren wrote: > Apologies in advance for what might be a dumb question - but I have > searched Readmes, UPDATE, Handbook, FAQ, Google, without finding the answer Looks like you did not look at the man page. from make.conf(5): FILES /etc/make.conf /usr/doc/Makefile /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf /usr/src/Makefile /usr/src/Makefile.inc1 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 07:13:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75F6516A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 07:13:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.adl2.internode.on.net (smtp1.adl2.internode.on.net [203.16.214.181]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA25743D2D for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 07:13:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from malcolm.kay@internode.on.net) Received: from beta.home (ppp129-18.lns1.adl2.internode.on.net [150.101.129.18])i5E7Do4Y051851; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 16:43:51 +0930 (CST) From: Malcolm Kay Organization: at home To: monica.bose@itc.alstom.com, "questions@FreeBSD.org" Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 16:43:49 +0930 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200406141643.49629.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> Subject: Re: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 07:13:56 -0000 On Monday 14 June 2004 15:28, monica.bose@itc.alstom.com wrote: > In operating system 2000 server what service pack I have to install for > installing the sap R3 4.6c sr2 . You are really in the wrong place! Come back here when you are running on a FreeBSD operating system; or at least some variant of unix. With the price paid for Sap I would expect the Vendors to answer this sort of query. Malcolm > > Whenever installing the ads form kernal cd [ path name : \NT\I386\MMC\ADS > , it's giving the error 'Incorrect INF file syntax in section > 'checkForPrevVer' . > Why the error is coming & what will be the solution . > > I am sending you the procedure which i have taken . > 1. I install the windows 2000 server . > 2. driver installation . > 3. Windows 2000 service pack 4 ( latest one) . > 4 . make the logical partition . > 5. installing r3 setup from kernal cd . > 6. installing i386 > 7. installing ads { it's giving error ) > > Thanks > > :.________________ > > CONFIDENTIALITY : This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and > may be privileged. If you are not a named recipient, please notify the > sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to another person, use > it for any purpose or store or copy the information in any medium. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 07:52:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D07716A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 07:52:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailhub.intercaf.ru (mailhub.intercaf.ru [195.96.167.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBFC843D45 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 07:52:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lesha@intercaf.ru) Received: from ppp83-237-11-7.pppoe.mtu-net.ru (ppp83-237-11-7.pppoe.mtu-net.ru [83.237.11.7]) (authenticated bits=0) by mailhub.intercaf.ru (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i5E7pP16050419 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 11:51:27 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from lesha@intercaf.ru) From: AK Organization: InterCAF To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 11:51:32 +0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200406141151.32386.lesha@intercaf.ru> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 'clamd / ClamAV version 0.65', clamav-milter version '0.60p' Subject: USB 2.0 (ehci) - still buggy? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 07:52:19 -0000 Hello, everyone! I have just compiled EHCI into kernel, but have no luck on making USB2 working :( Is USB2 supported or it is still buggy on fbsd? When I plug USB2 device kernel yields: uhub3: port 1, set config at addr 2 failed uhub3: device problem, disabling port 1 uhub3: port 5, set config at addr 2 failed uhub3: device problem, disabling port 5 I'm running 5.2-current (13-Jun) Any ideas will be appreciated! Cheers, AL. ----- Here is some hardware information from dmesg: uhci0: port 0xdf20-0xdf3f irq 11 at device 29.0 on pci0 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhci1: port 0xdf40-0xdf5f irq 5 at device 29.1 on pci0 uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] 0 target 0 lun 0 usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhci2: port 0xdf80-0xdf9f irq 9 at device 29.2 on pci0 uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb2: on uhci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 ehci0: mem 0xdff7bc00-0xdff7bfff irq 5 at device 29.7 on pci0 ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] ehci_pci_attach: companion usb0 ehci_pci_attach: companion usb1 ehci_pci_attach: companion usb2 usb3: EHCI version 1.0 usb3: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2 usb3: on ehci0 usb3: USB revision 2.0 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 08:01:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65B9916A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 08:01:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail006.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail006.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1247443D5A for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 08:01:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from amcllists@optusnet.com.au) Received: from amclarenh1 (c211-30-186-9.rivrw1.nsw.optusnet.com.au [211.30.186.9])i5E81Gx17977 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 18:01:16 +1000 Message-Id: <200406140801.i5E81Gx17977@mail006.syd.optusnet.com.au> From: "Andrew McLaren" To: Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 18:01:26 +1000 Organization: Not much ... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <200406140904.00287.ajacoutot@lphp.org> Thread-Index: AcRR3grcg8fd5DimQWWq0nG93bDqOgABnopw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Subject: RE: Default make.conf in FreeBSD 5.x? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 08:01:19 -0000 No, I read the man page :-) I may be stupid, but I am not lazy :-)) = The man page also helpfully says "This man page may occasionally be out = of date" so, while it's a useful document, it is not necessarily the = final arbiter of correctness. What confused me was that /etc/default/make.conf had disappeared. Other replies have made it clear that the user is free to copy = /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf to /etc/make.conf, and edit as = desired. What I am still unclear about is why the /etc/default/make.conf file has = disappeared in 5.x. But that is a less important question. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org = [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Antoine = Jacoutot Sent: Monday, 14 June 2004 17:04 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Default make.conf in FreeBSD 5.x? On Monday 14 June 2004 02:41, Andrew McLaren wrote: > Apologies in advance for what might be a dumb question - but I have=20 > searched Readmes, UPDATE, Handbook, FAQ, Google, without finding the=20 > answer Looks like you did not look at the man page. from make.conf(5): FILES /etc/make.conf /usr/doc/Makefile /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf /usr/src/Makefile /usr/src/Makefile.inc1 _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list = http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 09:13:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7899416A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 09:13:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gw.woopwoop.com (gw.woopwoop.com [203.18.85.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF9F243D2D for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 09:13:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from raymond@woopwoop.com) Received: from unixworks.com.au (oneman.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.45.175]) by gw.woopwoop.com (8.12.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id i5E9D5jn018407 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 19:13:08 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from raymond@woopwoop.com) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 19:13:05 +1000 (EST) From: raymond@www.woopwoop.com Message-Id: <200406140913.i5E9D5jn018407@gw.woopwoop.com> Subj: ATAPICAM - Sony AIT SDX-420 ATAPI tape drive on FreeBSD 5.2.1 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: ATAPICAM - Sony AIT SDX-420 ATAPI tape drive on FreeBSD 5.2.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 09:13:32 -0000 I have added a Sony SDX-420 ATAPI tape drive to a FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE system. The following is part of the kernel build: # ATA and ATAPI devices device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives device atapicam # SCSI peripherals device scbus # SCSI bus (required for SCSI) device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc) device cd # CD dmesg includes: GEOM: create disk ad0 dp=0xc43f8760 ad0: 114473MB [232581/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA100 GEOM: create disk cd0 dp=0xc44e7600 sa0 at ata1 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 sa0: Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device sa0: 3.300MB/s transfers SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! cd0 at ata1 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device cd0: 3.300MB/s transfers cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present A dump appears to work: monster# mt rew monster# dump -ua0 -b64 /usr DUMP: WARNING: should use -L when dumping live filesystems! DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Mon Jun 14 18:45:49 2004 DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch DUMP: Dumping /dev/ad0s1f (/usr) to /dev/sa0 DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files] DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories] DUMP: estimated 1668552 tape blocks. DUMP: dumping (Pass III) [directories] DUMP: dumping (Pass IV) [regular files] DUMP: DUMP: 1800569 tape blocks on 1 volume DUMP: finished in 262 seconds, throughput 6872 KBytes/sec DUMP: level 0 dump on Mon Jun 14 18:45:49 2004 DUMP: Closing /dev/sa0 DUMP: DUMP IS DONE But restore does this: monster# mt rew monster# restore -t -b 64 Mount tape volume 2 Enter ``none'' if there are no more tapes otherwise enter tape name (default: /dev/sa0) none Tape read error while trying to resynchronize continue? [yn] y continuation failed: Bad file descriptor I have tried quite a number of differing things... Any hints or suggestions welcome. Ray Newman From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 09:31:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BBF316A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 09:31:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gw.woopwoop.com (gw.woopwoop.com [203.18.85.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2786943D53 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 09:31:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from raymond@unixworks.com.au) Received: from unixworks.com.au (oneman.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.45.175]) by gw.woopwoop.com (8.12.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id i5E9Vajn018439 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 19:31:39 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from raymond@unixworks.com.au) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 19:31:37 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <200406140931.i5E9Vajn018439@gw.woopwoop.com> Subj: ATAPICAM - Sony AIT SDX-420 ATAPI tape drive on FreeBSD 5.2.1 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org From: raymond@unixworks.com.au Subject: ATAPICAM - Sony AIT SDX-420 ATAPI tape drive on FreeBSD 5.2.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 09:31:57 -0000 I have added a Sony SDX-420 ATAPI tape drive to a FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE system. The following is part of the kernel build: # ATA and ATAPI devices device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives device atapicam # SCSI peripherals device scbus # SCSI bus (required for SCSI) device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc) device cd # CD dmesg includes: GEOM: create disk ad0 dp=0xc43f8760 ad0: 114473MB [232581/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA100 GEOM: create disk cd0 dp=0xc44e7600 sa0 at ata1 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 sa0: Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device sa0: 3.300MB/s transfers SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! cd0 at ata1 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device cd0: 3.300MB/s transfers cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present A dump appears to work: monster# mt rew monster# dump -ua0 -b64 /usr DUMP: WARNING: should use -L when dumping live filesystems! DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Mon Jun 14 18:45:49 2004 DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch DUMP: Dumping /dev/ad0s1f (/usr) to /dev/sa0 DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files] DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories] DUMP: estimated 1668552 tape blocks. DUMP: dumping (Pass III) [directories] DUMP: dumping (Pass IV) [regular files] DUMP: DUMP: 1800569 tape blocks on 1 volume DUMP: finished in 262 seconds, throughput 6872 KBytes/sec DUMP: level 0 dump on Mon Jun 14 18:45:49 2004 DUMP: Closing /dev/sa0 DUMP: DUMP IS DONE But restore does this: monster# mt rew monster# restore -t -b 64 Mount tape volume 2 Enter ``none'' if there are no more tapes otherwise enter tape name (default: /dev/sa0) none Tape read error while trying to resynchronize continue? [yn] y continuation failed: Bad file descriptor I have tried quite a number of differing things... Any hints or suggestions welcome. Ray Newman Message sent at 07:13 PM on 14 Jun 2004 by PUP::RAYMOND. Id: 368387. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 09:53:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE31B16A4D0 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 09:53:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from twinlark.arctic.org (twinlark.arctic.org [168.75.98.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86D0443D48 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 09:53:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atk2@arctic.org) Received: (qmail 22630 invoked by uid 1347); 14 Jun 2004 09:52:37 -0000 Date: 14 Jun 2004 09:52:37 -0000 Message-ID: <20040614095237.22628.qmail@twinlark.arctic.org> From: atk2@arctic.org To: atk2@arctic.org, eta@lclark.edu In-Reply-To: <1087166071.847.35.camel@leguin> cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: more on XFree86-4 problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 09:53:10 -0000 Thanks - that seemed to fix it. Now on to the next project - java/mozilla :( Alan ||From eta@lclark.edu Sun Jun 13 15:34:32 2004 ||On Sun, 2004-06-13 at 15:26, atk2@arctic.org wrote: ||> Ok - I decided that perhaps my problem was a undetected conflict in old ||> packages - i deleted most of my old package and now the current error I ||> get is: ||> ||> CSRG_BASED -DFUNCPROTO=15 -DNARROWPROTO -DXTHREADS -D_THREAD_SAFE -DXUSE_MTSAFE_API -DXNO_MTSAFE_PWDAPI -DMALLOC_0_RETURNS_NULL -DHAS_SNPRINTF -DLIBX11 -DPOSTLOCALELIBDIR=\"lib\" util/makekeys.c -L/usr/X11R6/lib -pthread -Wl,-rpath,/usr/X11R6/lib ||> cc: GccWarningOptions: No such file or directory ||> *** Error code 1 (ignored) ||> ./makekeys < /f/ports/x11/XFree86-4-libraries/work/xc/exports/include/X11/keysymdef.h > ks_tables_h ||> ./makekeys: not found ||> *** Error code 127 ||> ||> Stop in /f/ports/x11/XFree86-4-libraries/work/xc/lib/X11. ||> *** Error code 1 ||> ||> Stop in /f/ports/x11/XFree86-4-libraries/work/xc/lib. ||> *** Error code 1 ||> ||> --- ||> ||> The problem is I have to get XFree86-4 to build to get gnome2 to build to ||> get mozilla to build. Bleh - I tried the pkg_add route but most of the ||> packages required for gnome2 don't exist (mostly Xfree86x 4.3.0-7) ||> ||> (I used pkg_add -r gnome2) ||Try reinstalling your imake-4 and then XFree86-4-libraries would be my ||guess. ||-- ||Eric Anholt eta@lclark.edu ||http://people.freebsd.org/~anholt/ anholt@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 10:10:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 233D516A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 10:10:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.mri.ernet.in (mail.mri.ernet.in [202.41.87.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A82343D54 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 10:10:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from raghu@mri.ernet.in) Received: from ipc2.mri.ernet.in (unknown [192.168.1.9]) by mail.mri.ernet.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C5C085245; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 20:47:44 +0500 (MVT) Received: from ipc2 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ipc2 (Postfix) with SMTP id D880226763; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 15:39:38 +0530 (IST) Received: from riemann.mri.ernet.in (riemann.mri.ernet.in [192.168.3.122]) by ipc2.mri.ernet.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDA9526151; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 15:39:38 +0530 (IST) Received: from riemann.mri.ernet.in (localhost.mri.ernet.in [127.0.0.1]) i5EA3h8D094454; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 15:33:43 +0530 (IST) (envelope-from raghu@riemann.mri.ernet.in) Received: (from raghu@localhost) by riemann.mri.ernet.in (8.12.9p2/8.12.9/Submit) id i5EA3cVX094451; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 15:33:38 +0530 (IST) (envelope-from raghu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16589.30714.595764.764602@riemann.mri.ernet.in> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 15:33:38 +0530 From: "N. Raghavendra" To: Matthew Seaman In-Reply-To: <20040612130607.GB62427@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <000001c45054$39e06a20$5f7fa551@gezin> <20040612130607.GB62427@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Mailer: VM 7.18 under Emacs 21.3.1 X-Organization: Harish-Chandra Research Institute (HRI) X-Address: Chhatnag Road, Jhusi, Allahabad 211 019, India X-URL: http://www.mri.ernet.in/ X-Phone: +91 (532) 2667 509, 2667 318, 2667 578, 2567 746, 2567 747 X-Fax: +91 (532) 2667 576, 2567 748, 2567 444, 2568 036 X-OpenPGP-Key-ID: 0x03618806 X-OpenPGP-Key-Fingerprint: C75D D0AF 457E 7454 BEC2 37AD C6E1 0407 0361 8806 X-OpenPGP-Public-Key-Available-At: http://www.keyserver.net/ cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What's the big difference between Linux and Unix?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "N. Raghavendra" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 10:10:19 -0000 At 2004-06-12T14:06:07+01:00, Matthew Seaman wrote: > For more detail that you could possibly want about the descent of > Unix, see: > > http://www.levenez.com/unix/ Hi Matthew, Thanks for pointing out that interesting site. Cheers, Raghavendra. -- N. Raghavendra | See mail headers for contact Harish-Chandra Research Institute | and OpenPGP details. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 10:31:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75DD616A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 10:31:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mcp.lphp.org (ASt-Lambert-152-2-6-220.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.120.202.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E329243D58 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 10:31:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ajacoutot@lphp.org) Received: from bsdbox.lphp.local (bsdbox.lphp.local [192.168.0.2]) by mcp.lphp.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i5EAVJRb065242 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 12:31:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ajacoutot@lphp.org) From: Antoine Jacoutot To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 12:31:18 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <200406141151.32386.lesha@intercaf.ru> In-Reply-To: <200406141151.32386.lesha@intercaf.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200406141231.19045.ajacoutot@lphp.org> Subject: Re: USB 2.0 (ehci) - still buggy? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 10:31:50 -0000 On Monday 14 June 2004 09:51, AK wrote: > I have just compiled EHCI into kernel, but have no luck > on making USB2 working :( Is USB2 supported or it is still > buggy on fbsd? If I compile ehci into the kernel and plug a USB2 Harddrive, my FreeBSD-5.2.1 box panics, so I guess it is still _very_ buggy. Antoine From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 10:37:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBD7116A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 10:37:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mcp.lphp.org (ASt-Lambert-152-2-6-220.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.120.202.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E567543D39 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 10:37:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ajacoutot@lphp.org) Received: from bsdbox.lphp.local (bsdbox.lphp.local [192.168.0.2]) by mcp.lphp.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i5EAagRb067691 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 12:36:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ajacoutot@lphp.org) From: Antoine Jacoutot To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 12:36:42 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <200406140801.i5E81Gx17977@mail006.syd.optusnet.com.au> In-Reply-To: <200406140801.i5E81Gx17977@mail006.syd.optusnet.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200406141236.42018.ajacoutot@lphp.org> Subject: Re: Default make.conf in FreeBSD 5.x? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 10:37:02 -0000 On Monday 14 June 2004 10:01, Andrew McLaren wrote: > No, I read the man page :-) I may be stupid, but I am not lazy :-)) The > man page also helpfully says "This man page may occasionally be out of > date" so, while it's a useful document, it is not necessarily the final > arbiter of correctness. I never said you were stupid nor lazy... > What confused me was that /etc/default/make.conf had disappeared. Well, the thing is I think make.conf disappeared from /etc/defaults because there's no default defined for the system. If you take /etc/defaults/rc.conf for exemple, you can see that cron is enabled by default --> you can override this by setting it in /etc/rc.conf ; but for make.conf, there's nothing defined, everything is commented by default, so there's no overrides. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 11:24:04 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D97B216A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 11:24:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from filter.Access4Less.net (filter.access4less.net [64.63.192.245]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 755AB43D54 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 11:24:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kaging@access4less.net) Received: from access4less.net (unverified [10.24.3.21]) by filter.Access4Less.net (Joe 1) with ESMTP id 65305892 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 07:23:33 -0400 Sender: kaging@access4less.net From: "Kevin Greenidge" To: questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Quality Web Email http://access4less.net Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 05:26:03 -0500 Priority: normal Message-id: <40cd7d3b.3d3.1281.1399945043@access4less.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Authenticated-User: kaging@access4less.net Domain filter.Access4Less.net Subject: Hard Drive going bad? (hard error reading fsbn) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: kaging@access4less.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 11:24:05 -0000 I started seeing the error messages in my logs. When I googled the error some seem to think it may be a hardware issue and some seem to think it's o/s specific. Trying to see what's the general opinon. Running 4.9 Jun 13 00:30:26 santacruz /kernel: ad0s1h: hard error reading fsbn 197442991 of 26369632-26369887 (ad0s1 bn 197442991; cn 12290 tn 65 sn 46) status=59 error=40 Jun 13 00:30:37 santacruz /kernel: ad0s1h: hard error reading fsbn 197443023 of 26369664-26369887 (ad0s1 bn 197443023; cn 12290 tn 66 sn 15) status=59 error=40 Jun 13 00:30:42 santacruz /kernel: ad0s1h: hard error reading fsbn 197443055 of 26369696-26369887 (ad0s1 bn 197443055; cn 12290 tn 66 sn 47) status=59 error=40 Jun 13 00:30:53 santacruz /kernel: ad0s1h: hard error reading fsbn 197443087 of 26369728-26369887 (ad0s1 bn 197443087; cn 12290 tn 67 sn 16) status=59 error=40 Jun 13 00:30:53 santacruz /kernel: ad0s1h: hard error reading fsbn 197443119 of 26369760-26369887 (ad0s1 bn 197443119; cn 12290 tn 67 sn 48) status=59 error=40 Jun 13 00:30:53 santacruz /kernel: ad0s1h: hard error reading fsbn 197443151 of 26369792-26369887 (ad0s1 bn 197443151; cn 12290 tn 68 sn 17) status=59 error=40 Jun 13 00:30:53 santacruz /kernel: ad0s1h: hard error reading fsbn 197443151 of 26369792-26369823 (ad0s1 bn 197443151; cn 12290 tn 68 sn 17) status=59 error=40 Jun 13 00:30:53 santacruz /kernel: ad0s1h: hard error reading fsbn 197443151 of 26369792-26369823 (ad0s1 bn 197443151; cn 12290 tn 68 sn 17) status=59 error=40 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 20:48:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D74716A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 20:48:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from newmail.eltopia.com (newmail.eltopia.com [64.146.138.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CA8743D41 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 20:48:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from edwardmh@pwaccess.com) Received: from micronpctportgx (unverified [4.249.120.131]) by newmail.eltopia.com for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 13:48:52 -0700 From: "Edward Hendrie" To: Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 17:02:49 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 11:48:37 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Devil Mascot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 20:48:54 -0000 Why do you have a Devil for a trademark mascot? From a marketing perspective, you are shooting yourselves in the foot. There are many people of various religious backgrounds who will be dissuaded from trying FreeBSD because they have religious objections to a product that is promoted by a devil. You may think that is a small issue, but when you are trying to create market awareness you need a mascot that evokes simplicity and goodwill, not one that evokes evil and deception. Look at how MSN is marketing its ISP. They use characters dressed in harmless butterfly costumes. Linux, has done the same with its pudgy cute penguin. You might want to rethink your mascot. Edward Hendrie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 11:35:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B092616A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 11:35:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D798A43D1D for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 11:35:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from free.bsd@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 29535 invoked by uid 0); 14 Jun 2004 11:34:31 -0000 Received: from 141.20.195.229 by www67.gmx.net with HTTP; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 13:34:31 +0200 (MEST) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 13:34:31 +0200 (MEST) From: "freebsd_daemon" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Authenticated: #20105305 Message-ID: <11790.1087212871@www67.gmx.net> X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 1.6 (Global Message Exchange) X-Flags: 0001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Single Xeon X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 11:35:02 -0000 Dear list; will all Xeons also run if no second CPU (Xeon) is available? I need to know as i am building a system to be used by a small number of people, but don't know how many it eventually will become. I therefore would like to keep the system as scaleable as possible and would like to use a dual board but start with only one CPU. TIA Zheyu -- "Sie haben neue Mails!" - Die GMX Toolbar informiert Sie beim Surfen! Jetzt aktivieren unter http://www.gmx.net/info From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 01:25:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BDF616A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 01:25:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from outbox.allstream.net (outbox.allstream.net [207.245.244.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D887343D48 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 01:25:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from spuds@allstream.net) Received: from 3ey7m (new-on50-158.dial.allstream.net [142.154.153.30]) by outbox.allstream.net (Allstream MTA) with SMTP id 7D4D4603B for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 21:25:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000a01c451c8$044d4b60$1e999a8e@3ey7m> From: "Spuds" To: Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 21:28:16 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 11:48:30 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Some Simple Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 01:25:49 -0000 Hello, My name is Bryan and I am interested in using FreeBSD on my computer. = Before I do so, I have a couple of questions I was wondering you could = answer. 1) Is FreeBSD truly free, as in I don't have to pay for it and can = download it at no charge or is FreeBSD just a name? 2) Is FreeBSD in any way affected by the SCO lawsuits against Linux = distributors and commercial users, as I am aware that FreeBSD is based = on Unix? I believe it is the fact that Linux may have Unix code, but I = am not sure, as I have read many different opinions. 3) Is FreeBSD compatible with Linux software? I believe I read that = somewhere. 4) Can FreeBSD run on a laptop that is hardware compatible, as I know = some OS's cannot run on laptops but can on desktops? Thank you for your time. Bryan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 11:59:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7316816A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 11:59:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smartmx-03.inode.at (smartmx-03.inode.at [213.229.60.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AE5143D49 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 11:59:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from j.lochmann@i-penta.at) Received: from [81.223.151.66] (port=56133 helo=192.168.100.13) by smartmx-03.inode.at with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BZq7W-0001BF-Ac for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 13:59:22 +0200 From: Johannes Lochmann Organization: i-penta Informationsmanagement GmbH To: Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 13:59:05 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200406141359.06343.j.lochmann@i-penta.at> Subject: Re: Devil Mascot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 11:59:41 -0000 On Monday 14 June 2004 02:02, Edward Hendrie wrote: Hi, > Why do you have a Devil for a trademark mascot? It's not a devil, it's a daemon. > Look at how MSN is marketing its ISP. They use characters dressed in > harmless butterfly costumes. ... looking ridiculous, IMHO... > You might want to rethink your mascot. I don't think so... HTH Johannes Lochmann From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 12:07:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3D0816A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 12:07:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.186]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20F3043D1F for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 12:07:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jan.muenther@nruns.com) Received: from [212.227.126.207] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1BZqFp-0005xj-00; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 14:07:57 +0200 Received: from [212.202.43.252] (helo=localghost.muenther.de) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1BZqFp-0007YN-00; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 14:07:57 +0200 Received: by localghost.muenther.de (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D827D17B; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 14:08:19 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 14:08:19 +0200 From: Jan Muenther To: Edward Hendrie Message-ID: <20040614120819.GA76587@localghost.muenther.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de auth:9a8a46f2b40f7808f7699def63624ac2 cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Devil Mascot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 12:07:59 -0000 > You may think that is a small issue, but when you are trying to create > market awareness you need a mascot that evokes simplicity and goodwill, not > one that evokes evil and deception. Man... either you're a (moderately funny) troll or *you're* the one with some serious issues here. It's a daemon, which is not a demon and surely not a devil. http://www.mckusick.com/beastie/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 12:08:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8710C16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 12:08:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from loial.bytemine.net (loial.bytemine.net [217.160.141.91]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2346543D5D for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 12:08:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from olegb@opendarwin.org) Received: from 0x50a5b35b.bynxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk ([80.165.179.91] helo=[192.168.0.133]) by loial.bytemine.net with asmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.34) id 1BZqG6-00033M-JT; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 14:08:14 +0200 Message-ID: <40CD950D.7030108@opendarwin.org> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 14:07:41 +0200 From: Ole Guldberg Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (Macintosh/20040502) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Edward Hendrie References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Devil Mascot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 12:08:14 -0000 Edward Hendrie wrote: > Why do you have a Devil for a trademark mascot? http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/daemon.html > From a marketing > perspective, you are shooting yourselves in the foot. There are many people > of various religious backgrounds who will be dissuaded from trying FreeBSD > because they have religious objections to a product that is promoted by a > devil. Why should The FreeBSD project be interested in users ? It is not a commerial project. I think the FreeBSD folks are interested in making a cool unix-like operating system, not much else. Ole -- DarwinPorts committer, www.opendarwin.org/~olegb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 12:08:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3E4A16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 12:08:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from v8.acast.nova.edu (v8.acast.nova.edu [137.52.224.128]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9B5743D39 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 12:08:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonaadam@nsu.acast.nova.edu) Received: from v8.acast.nova.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by v8.acast.nova.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i5EC8r5m010127 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 08:08:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (mail21000.acast.nova.edu [137.52.226.94]) by v8.acast.nova.edu (8.12.10/8.12.1) with ESMTP id i5EC8qlk010122 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 08:08:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 164.214.4.62 ( [164.214.4.62]) as user jonaadam@v81000 by mail2.acast.nova.edu with HTTP; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 08:08:52 -0400 Message-ID: <1087214932.40cd9554bc024@mail2.acast.nova.edu> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 08:08:52 -0400 From: Jon Adams To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 4.0 X-Originating-IP: 164.214.4.62 Subject: Newbie Issues (networking w/ FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 12:08:52 -0000 Hi all, First a qualifier: I am FreeBSD noob, I have had exposure to it for about two years, but I just built my first FreeBSD box last nite... fresh install over an old (and extremely tweaked) Red Hat Linux box.... After much procrastination, I have finally made the change (been stuck on linux since 98). The (main) problem -> My network connectivity is ridiculously slow... I had OpenSSH timeout set to the default, 120 secs, and the messages file said the connections (on the same 100MBPs hub mind you) were timing out before authentication (password). I went in and doubled the timeout, and after a long wait (I didnt check the time) I could get a password prompt... at first I thought this was just a SSH problem, but it is the same if I use telnet (or any other network service). I have several devices on my Lan including 2 (eww) Windows XP laptops, and a PS2 and a XP workstation. I have 3 public IPs, (Speakeasy is the ISP) The laptops use a LinkSys 54G Wireless Hub and one public IP (its plugged into a NetGear 4 port hub), I split another IP with the Desktop and PS2, and the FreeBSD box will have its own IP, of course the final port is the uplink. There are absolutly no connectivity problems with the other machines. The FreeBSD box cannot connect to the dns servers (on three different networks) or much of anything else. Here is the really weird part, when I run an NMAP scan from inside the network and one from outside the network, the box is reachable (NMAP can see the ports and determine the OS), but nothing can connect to it (all connections time out). Any suggestions would help: about the box FreeBSD version 5.1 Release CPU Celeron 733, 384 (3x128) MB Ram 30GB WD HD, 768 MB Swap, the rest in various partitions 12x4x40 CD Burner 48x CD Drive SiS 6326 Video RTL8139 chip network card (rl0) using static IP (I know I read about issues using this card and DHCP... but I am not using DHCP) I dont know if this is a side effect of the networking problem, but my Xwindows is incredible slow as well. This is with both KDE and Gnome. I havent seen any other weirdness whatsoever in the system logs. off the topic, if anybody could point me at how to build ipfw I would appreciate it, i have seen the basic tutorials via google, but have no idea where to get the kernel sources to do the install. -- Jonathan Keirre Adams PhD Candidate, Computer Information Systems Graduate School of Computer and Information Sciences Nova Southeastern University Web: http://www.scis.nova.edu/~jonaadam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 12:14:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EF0C16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 12:14:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from outmx010.isp.belgacom.be (outmx010.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.3.233]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAD4E43D49 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 12:14:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from geert@lori.mine.nu) Received: from outmx010.isp.belgacom.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) with ESMTP id i5ECEDPU009352 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 14:14:13 +0200 (envelope-from ) Received: from lori.mine.nu (229-150.244.81.adsl.skynet.be [81.244.150.229]) with ESMTP id i5ECE9DL009306; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 14:14:09 +0200 (envelope-from ) Received: by lori.mine.nu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 472655F9; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 14:14:09 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 14:14:08 +0200 From: Geert Hendrickx To: Edward Hendrie Message-ID: <20040614121408.GA65640@lori.mine.nu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i X-GPG-Key: http://www.win.ua.ac.be/~s005085/gnupgkey.txt X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/766C1E92 X-Accept-Language: nl,en cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Devil Mascot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 12:14:24 -0000 > You may think that is a small issue, but when you are trying to create > market awareness you need a mascot that evokes simplicity and goodwill, not > one that evokes evil and deception. I think it looks friendly, not evil at all. Moreover, it says "FreeBSD, the power to serve". Sounds goodwilling to me. Btw, when I run my FreeBSD (4.x) machine, I don't see any daemon images other than the ones I put in icons and backgrounds myself. GH From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 12:25:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84A4016A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 12:25:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (ns0.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECD2343D54 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 12:25:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1])i5ECPTQc080925 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 14 Jun 2004 13:25:29 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)id i5ECPSsu080924; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 13:25:28 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 13:25:28 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: Spuds Message-ID: <20040614122528.GA80662@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , Spuds , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <000a01c451c8$044d4b60$1e999a8e@3ey7m> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="2oS5YaxWCcQjTEyO" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000a01c451c8$044d4b60$1e999a8e@3ey7m> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Greylist: Message not sent from an IPv4 address, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.3.8 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [0.0.0.0]); Mon, 14 Jun 2004 13:25:29 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040612, clamav-milter version 0.72a on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,NO_COST autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Some Simple Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 12:25:47 -0000 --2oS5YaxWCcQjTEyO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jun 13, 2004 at 09:28:16PM -0700, Spuds wrote: > 1) Is FreeBSD truly free, as in I don't have to pay for it and can downlo= ad it at no charge or is FreeBSD just a name? Yes. It's free. You can download it and use it with out worrying about license fees. =20 > 2) Is FreeBSD in any way affected by the SCO lawsuits against Linux distr= ibutors and commercial users, as I am aware that FreeBSD is based on Unix? = I believe it is the fact that Linux may have Unix code, but I am not sure, = as I have read many different opinions. SCO are blowing a lot of wind right now, but it's all bark and no bite. Basically the AT&T lawsuit in the early nineties resolved all questions about intellectual proprietary and AT&T Unix code within any of the *BSD family. That has not prevented SCO directors making threats, but then they would, wouldn't they. In any case, FreeBSD is not going to be high on SCO's target list, as there's no money to be wrung out of the FreeBSD organization. For the opinions of a former member of the FreeBSD core team and generally interested party, see: http://people.lemis.com/grog/sco.html =20 > 3) Is FreeBSD compatible with Linux software? I believe I read that somew= here. If you install the Linux compatability port, you can run most Linux executables directly under FreeBSD. Sometimes the applications even seem to perform better under FreeBSD than they do natively... > 4) Can FreeBSD run on a laptop that is hardware compatible, as I know som= e OS's cannot run on laptops but can on desktops? Yes, in general. However, laptops are much trickier to deal with than usual desktop style hardware, and getting FreeBSD to run properly on a specific model can be difficult. Check out the freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list as a resource to find out what works and what doesn't. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --2oS5YaxWCcQjTEyO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFAzZk4iD657aJF7eIRAhN5AJ0f8OANmzWRUEp+53VnzPd+GYitVgCgo8zK Pu/0lgm74Y8ciGZPPJ9p2vw= =TN9a -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --2oS5YaxWCcQjTEyO-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 12:32:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2EC716A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 12:32:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bmyster.com (loqtis.bmyster.com [66.55.195.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72E4643D41 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 12:32:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from misterb@bmyster.com) Received: from loqtis.bmyster.com (localhost.bmyster.com [127.0.0.1]) by bmyster.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i5EChase019488 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 08:43:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from www@localhost) by loqtis.bmyster.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i5EChY7c019487; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 08:43:34 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: loqtis.bmyster.com: www set sender to misterb@bmyster.com using -f Received: from 207.5.142.198 (SquirrelMail authenticated user mrb) by new.host.name with HTTP; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 08:43:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <9252.207.5.142.198.1087217014.squirrel@new.host.name> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 08:43:34 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brent Bailey" To: questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Subject: submit mailq problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: misterb@bmyster.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 12:32:10 -0000 Hello, Im running sendmail 8.12.10 on FBSD 4.9rc2 ..in my logging im seeing the the following. Mail in submit queue: /var/spool/clientmqueue (7 requests) -----Q-ID----- --Size-- -----Q-Time----- ------------Sender/Recipient----------- hBEGdCCd042259 (Permission denied) hBEGOrsB042132 (Permission denied) hBEGbuqx042223 (Permission denied) hBC37xal019503 (Permission denied) i3LLEbjS011315 (Permission denied) i3PK0TYk070684 (Permission denied) i46GJqp4029781 (Permission denied) Total requests: 7 is there a way to purge these emials from the submit queue ? Im familier with purging from the mail queue but not from the submit queue Any help is greatly appreciated thanx -- Brent Bailey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 12:33:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A45EF16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 12:33:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from internet.potentialtech.com (h-66-167-251-6.phlapafg.covad.net [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A5F443D31 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 12:33:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from working.potentialtech.com (pa-plum1c-102.pit.adelphia.net [24.53.179.102]) by internet.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CF6A69A71; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 08:31:44 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 08:31:40 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: "Edward Hendrie" Message-Id: <20040614083140.4c8c12e5.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: Potential Technologies X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.10 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.9) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Devil Mascot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 12:33:00 -0000 "Edward Hendrie" wrote: > Why do you have a Devil for a trademark mascot? From a marketing > perspective, you are shooting yourselves in the foot. There are many people > of various religious backgrounds who will be dissuaded from trying FreeBSD > because they have religious objections to a product that is promoted by a > devil. > > You may think that is a small issue, but when you are trying to create > market awareness you need a mascot that evokes simplicity and goodwill, not > one that evokes evil and deception. > > Look at how MSN is marketing its ISP. They use characters dressed in > harmless butterfly costumes. Linux, has done the same with its pudgy cute > penguin. You might want to rethink your mascot. This has come up 100000000 times. It's simply not going to happen because the beastie has too much historical significance. It's a matter of pride that the beastie mascot has more history than the Linux penguin and the Microshit butterfly put together. Besides, he wasn't designed to be "market friendly", he was designed to be a technical pun (he's not a devil, he's a daemon) There are wild, baseless predictions that the world will reject FreeBSD because of the beastie every 6 months or so. Aside from the fact that I don't believe it, it simply doesn't bear out in reality. There are more people hijacking the beastie to use as a logo for other things than I can keep track of. I've seen more renditions of the beastie in artwork than both the penguin and the butterfly combined. The simple fact is that _most_ people like the beastie, and the few who are horribly offended by it don't seem to be significant in any way. -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 12:36:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DD2216A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 12:36:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.rtl.org (rtl-3.i2k.com [63.94.12.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7162A43D5A for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 12:36:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jstewart@rtl.org) Received: from mis3n.rtl.org (rtl-2.i2k.com [63.94.12.206]) by mail.rtl.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8497C30ABD; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 08:32:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mis3n.rtl.org (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 14 Jun 2004 08:33:30 -0400 Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 08:33:29 -0400 From: Jason Stewart To: Edward Hendrie Message-ID: <20040614123329.GB1072@rtl.org> Mail-Followup-To: Edward Hendrie , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Devil Mascot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 12:36:06 -0000 On 13/06/04 17:02 -0700, Edward Hendrie wrote: > Why do you have a Devil for a trademark mascot? From a marketing > perspective, you are shooting yourselves in the foot. There are many people > of various religious backgrounds who will be dissuaded from trying FreeBSD > because they have religious objections to a product that is promoted by a > devil. > What a ridiculous statement. Tell me, Edward, who ever made you the mouthpiece for 'many people of various religious backgrounds'? The FreeBSD Daemon is a mascot, and that's all ; If FreeBSD is promoted by a devil, then Linux is promoted by a penguin. > You may think that is a small issue, but when you are trying to create > market awareness you need a mascot that evokes simplicity and goodwill, not > one that evokes evil and deception. > I suppose that the devil influenced the thousands of sysadmins who run large network installations to go over to the dark side and install FreeBSD. > Look at how MSN is marketing its ISP. They use characters dressed in > harmless butterfly costumes. Linux, has done the same with its pudgy cute > penguin. You might want to rethink your mascot. > I know that you are trolling, but I'm bored. If the butter fly costume is sucjh a great thing, then why don't you leave here and go buy one. Wear it to church and family reunions. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 12:43:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BBA716A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 12:43:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.rtl.org (rtl-3.i2k.com [63.94.12.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29D7543D48 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 12:43:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jstewart@rtl.org) Received: from mis3n.rtl.org (rtl-2.i2k.com [63.94.12.206]) by mail.rtl.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B918F30AE0; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 08:40:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mis3n.rtl.org (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 14 Jun 2004 08:41:41 -0400 Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 08:41:41 -0400 From: Jason Stewart To: Spuds Message-ID: <20040614124141.GC1072@rtl.org> Mail-Followup-To: Spuds , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <000a01c451c8$044d4b60$1e999a8e@3ey7m> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000a01c451c8$044d4b60$1e999a8e@3ey7m> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Some Simple Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 12:43:36 -0000 On 13/06/04 21:28 -0700, Spuds wrote: > Hello, > > My name is Bryan and I am interested in using FreeBSD on my computer. Before I do so, I have a couple of questions I was wondering you could answer. > 1) Is FreeBSD truly free, as in I don't have to pay for it and can download it at no charge or is FreeBSD just a name? > FreeBSD is completely free and open. It's free to download. Some people, after finding FreeBSD useful choose to buy a boxed set or contribute to freeBSD in the way of talent or money. Whether you choose to do so is totally up to you. > 2) Is FreeBSD in any way affected by the SCO lawsuits against Linux distributors and commercial users, as I am aware that FreeBSD is based on Unix? I believe it is the fact that Linux may have Unix code, but I am not sure, as I have read many different opinions. > SCO cannot even affect linux. There is nothing to be afraid of, but if you want to be extra safe about it, there was already a ruling in BSD's favor in the USL_v._BSDi lawsuit: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USL_v._BSDi) > 3) Is FreeBSD compatible with Linux software? I believe I read that somewhere. Yes it is. > > 4) Can FreeBSD run on a laptop that is hardware compatible, as I know some OS's cannot run on laptops but can on desktops? FreeBSD should run fine on either your desktop or laptop, given that the hardware is supported. > > Thank you for your time. > > Bryan You're welcome, and hopefully I've been useful! :) Cheers, Jason > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 12:44:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C902316A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 12:44:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from internet.potentialtech.com (h-66-167-251-6.phlapafg.covad.net [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A40543D4C for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 12:44:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from working.potentialtech.com (pa-plum1c-102.pit.adelphia.net [24.53.179.102]) by internet.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6AE769A71; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 08:43:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 08:43:25 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: "Spuds" Message-Id: <20040614084325.25fdff7e.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <000a01c451c8$044d4b60$1e999a8e@3ey7m> References: <000a01c451c8$044d4b60$1e999a8e@3ey7m> Organization: Potential Technologies X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.10 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.9) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Some Simple Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 12:44:19 -0000 [Please read http://www.lemis.com/questions.html] "Spuds" wrote: > Hello, > > My name is Bryan and I am interested in using FreeBSD on my computer. Before I > do so, I have a couple of questions I was wondering you could answer. > 1) Is FreeBSD truly free, as in I don't have to pay for it and can download it > at no charge or is FreeBSD just a name? FreeBSD is just a name, however FreeBSD is both free (as in beer) and free (as in speech). > 2) Is FreeBSD in any way affected by the SCO lawsuits against Linux > distributors and commercial users, as I am aware that FreeBSD is based on > Unix? I believe it is the fact that Linux may have Unix code, but I am not > sure, as I have read many different opinions. Yes. If people continue to pay SCO when threatened, SCO is going to find other people to sue, and FreeBSD is a logical target. No, FreeBSD does not contain any code that SCO would be justified in suing over, but neither does Linux. > 3) Is FreeBSD compatible with Linux software? I believe I read that somewhere. Yes. Most Linux software will compile natively on FreeBSD. Most that won't compile, can be run under the Linuxulator. Whatever's left can be substituted. > 4) Can FreeBSD run on a laptop that is hardware compatible, as I know some > OS's cannot run on laptops but can on desktops? I don't understand this questions, but FreeBSD runs on a number of laptops. Use google to search for "+freebsd +laptop" and you'll find a number of sites dedicated to giving you detailed information. -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 12:48:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07D0A16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 12:48:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane.co.uk [82.152.23.78]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58FDF43D31 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 12:48:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by unsane.co.uk (8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i5EClj3A049553 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 14 Jun 2004 13:47:45 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from localhost (jhary@localhost) by unsane.co.uk (8.12.11/8.12.10/Submit) with ESMTP id i5EClicW049550; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 13:47:45 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 13:47:44 +0100 (BST) From: Vince Hoffman To: Spuds In-Reply-To: <000a01c451c8$044d4b60$1e999a8e@3ey7m> Message-ID: <20040614133840.V49307@unsane.co.uk> References: <000a01c451c8$044d4b60$1e999a8e@3ey7m> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Some Simple Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 12:48:15 -0000 On Sun, 13 Jun 2004, Spuds wrote: > Hello, Hi Bryan > > My name is Bryan and I am interested in using FreeBSD on my computer. Before I do so, I have a couple of questions I was wondering you could answer. > 1) Is FreeBSD truly free, as in I don't have to pay for it and can download it at no charge or is FreeBSD just a name? > Yes Freebsd is truly free. The only way you would have to pay for it is if you bought a CD with it on from somewhere like freebsdmall. If you download it all it costs you is time and bandwidth. > 2) Is FreeBSD in any way affected by the SCO lawsuits against Linux distributors and commercial users, as I am aware that FreeBSD is based on Unix? I believe it is the fact that Linux may have Unix code, but I am not sure, as I have read many different opinions. Have a read of http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=3415&page=8 > > 3) Is FreeBSD compatible with Linux software? I believe I read that somewhere. Some (most ?) Linux apps will run on FreeBSD, see http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/linuxemu.html But most Apps for linux have a native FreeBSD counterpart anyway. > > 4) Can FreeBSD run on a laptop that is hardware compatible, as I know some OS's cannot run on laptops but can on desktops? > I run freebsd 5.2.1 just fine on my Toshiba Tecra 8100. have an ask about specifics on the freebsd-mobile list > Thank you for your time. > Vince > Bryan > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 12:48:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 754A416A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 12:48:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out006.verizon.net (out006pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFED743D4C for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 12:48:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.org) Received: from localhost ([68.160.149.155]) by out006.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20040614124759.SARV3317.out006.verizon.net@localhost> for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 07:47:59 -0500 Received: from keyslapper.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i5EClx7T077372 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 08:48:00 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.org) Received: (from leblanc@localhost) by keyslapper.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i5EClxxD077371 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 08:47:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from leblanc) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 08:47:58 -0400 From: Louis LeBlanc To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20040614124758.GA77099@keyslapper.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out006.verizon.net from [68.160.149.155] at Mon, 14 Jun 2004 07:47:59 -0500 Subject: Re: Devil Mascot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 12:48:25 -0000 On 06/13/04 05:02 PM, Edward Hendrie sat at the `puter and typed: > Why do you have a Devil for a trademark mascot? From a > marketing perspective, you are shooting yourselves in the foot. > There are many people of various religious backgrounds who will > be dissuaded from trying FreeBSD because they have religious > objections to a product that is promoted by a devil. As has been stated on this list EVERY DARN TIME this subject is brought up, it's not a Devil, it's a daemon, and there IS a difference. Let the religious fanatics figure it out for themselves. If they're too blinded by zeal to READ about it, that's their problem. Yes, there is a link on the site, but I've not had my coffee yet, so someone else will probably post it, or you can try LOOKING for it yourself. > You may think that is a small issue, but when you are trying to > create market awareness you need a mascot that evokes simplicity > and goodwill, not one that evokes evil and deception. No, you're thinking of a butterfly. If you look up the origins of the daemon, you'll find that it is exactly the right mascot for FreeBSD. It precedes the judeo-christion concept of the devil. > Look at how MSN is marketing its ISP. They use characters > dressed in harmless butterfly costumes. Linux, has done the > same with its pudgy cute penguin. You might want to rethink > your mascot. No, I think that butterfly is the stupidest mascot I've ever seen. I also think the daemon is one of the coolest. And judging from past responses to this question, there are lots of people who will get good and angry at any concerted effort to remove it. And using a butterfly doesn't mean anything more than M$ spends too much money on marketing and not enough money FIXING their software. If this thread is to be productive, someone will think of a real mascot that was even dumber than that guy in a butterfly suit. Now that's a challenge. Sorry if the tone here is a little cranky. As I said, I haven't had my coffee yet . . . Lou -- Louis LeBlanc leblanc@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org Ô¿Ô¬ By trying we can easily learn to endure adversity. Another man's, I mean. -- Mark Twain From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 12:48:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E01E16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 12:48:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from internet.potentialtech.com (h-66-167-251-6.phlapafg.covad.net [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E71843D48 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 12:48:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from working.potentialtech.com (pa-plum1c-102.pit.adelphia.net [24.53.179.102]) by internet.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8029169A71; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 08:48:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 08:48:45 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: kaging@access4less.net Message-Id: <20040614084845.2e99d28d.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <40cd7d3b.3d3.1281.1399945043@access4less.net> References: <40cd7d3b.3d3.1281.1399945043@access4less.net> Organization: Potential Technologies X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.10 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.9) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hard Drive going bad? (hard error reading fsbn) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 12:48:58 -0000 "Kevin Greenidge" wrote: > I started seeing the error messages in my logs. When I > googled the error some seem to think it may be a hardware > issue and some seem to think it's o/s specific. Trying to > see what's the general opinon. Running 4.9 It's either a failing HDD, or the HDD/controller hardware you're using isn't compatible with FreeBSD. If it's been working for a while without problems, and suddenly started doing this (as you seem to imply) then it's definately failing hardware. If it's been doing this since install, then it'll be just a little harder to debug. If you post dmesg output and hardware details, I'm sure someone who's familiar with that hardware will let you know if this is expected or not. > Jun 13 00:30:26 santacruz /kernel: ad0s1h: hard error > reading fsbn 197442991 of 26369632-26369887 (ad0s1 bn > 197442991; cn 12290 tn 65 sn 46) status=59 error=40 > Jun 13 00:30:37 santacruz /kernel: ad0s1h: hard error > reading fsbn 197443023 of 26369664-26369887 (ad0s1 bn > 197443023; cn 12290 tn 66 sn 15) status=59 error=40 > Jun 13 00:30:42 santacruz /kernel: ad0s1h: hard error > reading fsbn 197443055 of 26369696-26369887 (ad0s1 bn > 197443055; cn 12290 tn 66 sn 47) status=59 error=40 > Jun 13 00:30:53 santacruz /kernel: ad0s1h: hard error > reading fsbn 197443087 of 26369728-26369887 (ad0s1 bn > 197443087; cn 12290 tn 67 sn 16) status=59 error=40 > Jun 13 00:30:53 santacruz /kernel: ad0s1h: hard error > reading fsbn 197443119 of 26369760-26369887 (ad0s1 bn > 197443119; cn 12290 tn 67 sn 48) status=59 error=40 > Jun 13 00:30:53 santacruz /kernel: ad0s1h: hard error > reading fsbn 197443151 of 26369792-26369887 (ad0s1 bn > 197443151; cn 12290 tn 68 sn 17) status=59 error=40 > Jun 13 00:30:53 santacruz /kernel: ad0s1h: hard error > reading fsbn 197443151 of 26369792-26369823 (ad0s1 bn > 197443151; cn 12290 tn 68 sn 17) status=59 error=40 > Jun 13 00:30:53 santacruz /kernel: ad0s1h: hard error > reading fsbn 197443151 of 26369792-26369823 (ad0s1 bn > 197443151; cn 12290 tn 68 sn 17) status=59 error=40 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 13:00:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F8C916A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 13:00:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay17-f22.bay17.hotmail.com [64.4.43.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FEEF43D45 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 13:00:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pavanrao79@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 06:00:34 -0700 Received: from 210.212.198.160 by by17fd.bay17.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 13:00:34 GMT X-Originating-IP: [210.212.198.160] X-Originating-Email: [pavanrao79@hotmail.com] X-Sender: pavanrao79@hotmail.com From: "Pavan Rao" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 13:00:34 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jun 2004 13:00:34.0676 (UTC) FILETIME=[94BF2B40:01C4520F] Subject: snmpd sleeping X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 13:00:42 -0000 Please could anybody tell me how to wake up my snmp daemon (snmpd)? It's sleeping .It doesn't respond to any of the snmp commands (snmpget,snmpwalk,etc). I've installed the latest version of snmp (v3) That too doesn't work. Also I've tried out various perl scripts in different packages like (RRDTool - Cricket). It just doesn't work .(Even as a root user) _________________________________________________________________ Apply to 50,000 jobs now. http://go.msnserver.com/IN/50740.asp Post your CV on naukri.com today. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 13:08:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6ED116A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 13:08:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay19-f22.bay19.hotmail.com [64.4.53.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2EB943D2D for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 13:08:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from destroyingculture@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 06:08:09 -0700 Received: from 203.113.217.17 by by19fd.bay19.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 13:08:09 GMT X-Originating-IP: [203.113.217.17] X-Originating-Email: [destroyingculture@hotmail.com] X-Sender: destroyingculture@hotmail.com From: "n3rdBoy ." To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 13:08:09 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jun 2004 13:08:09.0492 (UTC) FILETIME=[A3D69540:01C45210] Subject: gnome error message X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 13:08:13 -0000 hello, I have been looking over the Handbook and I cannot find an answer to my problem. Every time I start gnome as root or a normal user I get the following error message; "Could not look up internet address for . this will prevent GNOME from operating correctly it may be possible to correct the problem by adding to the file /etc/hosts." The message suggests adding to /etc/hosts, I've looked at the file and several text books and am still not sure what to do. 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Click here: http://ninemsn.match.com?referrer=hotmailtagline From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 13:15:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45ECC16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 13:15:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.broadpark.no (mail.broadpark.no [217.13.4.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C102243D54 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 13:15:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from henrik.w.lund@broadpark.no) Received: from broadpark.no (52.80-202-129.nextgentel.com [80.202.129.52]) by mail.broadpark.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D6A13FA5; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 15:14:20 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: <40CDA494.2070409@broadpark.no> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 15:13:56 +0200 From: Henrik W Lund User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040410 X-Accept-Language: no, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ray References: <20040613205652.GB414@systemloop.com> In-Reply-To: <20040613205652.GB414@systemloop.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: apm support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 13:15:23 -0000 ray wrote: > hi, i have a Sony Vaio PCG-GRZ660 laptop and i'm trying to get apm > to work. i have the apmd running. apm displays this: > > ~# apm > APM version: 1.2 > APM Management: Disabled ^^^^^^^^ Look here! My guess is that you've left the line apm_enable=yes out from your /etc/rc.conf. Put it in there! :-) If you have it in /etc/rc.conf, check your kernel config to see if it's enabled in there. I believe it is disabled in GENERIC, so you have to enable it. This is for 4.X of course. I don't know about 5.X -Henrik W Lund From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 13:25:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDF7016A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 13:25:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.broadpark.no (mail.broadpark.no [217.13.4.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5A6043D48 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 13:25:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from henrik.w.lund@broadpark.no) Received: from broadpark.no (52.80-202-129.nextgentel.com [80.202.129.52]) by mail.broadpark.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 029881298 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 15:20:45 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: <40CDA615.8090601@broadpark.no> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 15:20:21 +0200 From: Henrik W Lund User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040410 X-Accept-Language: no, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Devil Mascot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 13:25:53 -0000 If some people are put off from FreeBSD because the "devil" mascot evokes "evil and deception", they are not people I personally would want using the same OS as me. Good riddance! Speaking only for myself, of course. Now MSN, and its behemoth parent Microsoft, on the other hand... *There's* evil and deception for ya! ;-) -Henrik W Lund From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 13:36:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B95F16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 13:36:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from filter.Access4Less.net (filter.access4less.net [64.63.192.245]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A857443D2F for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 13:36:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kaging@access4less.net) Received: from access4less.net (unverified [10.24.3.21]) by filter.Access4Less.net (Joe 1) with ESMTP id 65326508 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 09:36:42 -0400 Sender: kaging@access4less.net From: "Kevin Greenidge" To: questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Quality Web Email http://access4less.net Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 07:39:11 -0500 Priority: normal Message-id: <40cd9c6f.25d.45d3.1305745607@access4less.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Authenticated-User: kaging@access4less.net Domain filter.Access4Less.net Subject: Re: Hard Drive going bad? (hard error reading fsbn) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: kaging@access4less.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 13:36:57 -0000 Here is the /etc/fstab and my dmesg output: # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass# /dev/ad0s1b none swap sw 0 0 /dev/ad0s1a / ufs rw 1 1 /dev/ad0s1f /home ufs rw,userquota,groupquota 2 2 /dev/ad0s1g /tmp ufs rw,noexec,nosuid 2 2 /dev/ad0s1e /usr ufs rw 2 2 /dev/ad0s1h /var ufs rw,userquota,groupquota 2 2 /dev/acd0c /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 proc /proc procfs rw 0 0 ----------------------------- 2.2 irq 5 pcib1: at device 8.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 fxp0: port 0xd000-0xd03f mem 0xe5000000-0xe50fffff,0xe5110000-0xe5110fff irq 11 at device 6.0 on pci1 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:90:27:a9:71:66 inphy0: on miibus0 inphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto pci1: at 9.0 irq 12 atapci0: port 0xf000-0xf00f at device 9.0 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 pcib2: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci2: on pcib2 orm0: