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On Sat, 31 Jul 2004 10:36:16 +0000
Scott <freebsd-questions@thismonkey.com> wrote:

> Hi there,
> 
> I'm really short on diskspace, and I have no room to run a make
> buildkernel after I run make buildworld.
> 
> Is it possible to do the following:
> 
> make buildworld
> rm -fr /usr/obj
> make buildkernel
> make installkernel
> -reboot single user
> make installworld

hello scott,

if i am not mistaken, everything created by make buildworld is what ends up
under /usr/obj.  by deleting these files, you are effectively removing
everything that you want to install via make installworld.

(perhaps?) a more space effective workaround would be to:

1) build a generic kernel and keep that lying about.  in other words, copy
the new generic kernel you build to another file like kernel.generic. 
these are pretty good about booting up, the despite minor changes that can
take place from buildworld to buildworld.

2) perform the make buildworld, reboot, make installworld, mergemaster,
reboot.

3) boot with your kernel.generic, clean out usr/obj, then make a new
kernel.

if this still doesn't work for you, i would recommend cleaning out some of
the directories which can chew up free disk space.  for example, 
/usr/ports/distfiles/ and /usr/ports/*/work (see man portsclean - part of
portinstall tools) and your/tmp (if you don't already have
clear_tmp_enable="YES" set in your rc.conf).

i know that this isn't exactly a perfect solution, but i hope nevertheless
that it helps you to achieve your end goal.


cheers,
epi


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Giorgos

Thank you for your opinion about my rewrite of the handbook firewall
section. It has been turned over to the FreeBSD doc group and they
are sanitizing the English and getting it prepared for update to the
handbook.

To address your opinion that the rule set may be to limiting for a
home user is covered by the following section from the document.


********************************************************************
*
Firewall Rule Set Types

Constructing a software application firewall rule set may seem to be
trivial, but most people get it wrong. The most common mistake is to
create an exclusive firewall rather than an inclusive firewall.

An exclusive firewall allows all services through except for those
matching a set of rules that block certain services.

An inclusive firewall does the reverse.

It only allows services matching the rules through and blocks
everything else. This way you can control what services can
originate behind the firewall destined for the public internet and
also control which services originating from the public internet may
access your network. Inclusive firewalls are far more secure than
exclusive firewalls.

********************************************************************
*


Now many home LAN environments have ms/windows boxes and that system
is the target of all the adware and spyware programs. These
unauthorized programs all most always use non-standard ports to
phone home and report on your activity. The only way to defend
against the 'report home action' is to block all outbound ports
except for those explicitly allowed by firewall rules.

Sure the ipfw firewall rule set you posted will work, but it's so
less secure then the ones contained in the document I wrote. Why
have a poorly defined firewall rule set that leaves a wide open
doorway to the public internet when just a few more rules will
result in the maximum protection possible. My document is written to
give the reader the maximum protection possible by just using the
included samples. This removes the trial and error testing the user
have to go through now using the current handbook as a guide.


New subject.
I see from your post, what looks like you have an automated way to
reformat MS/outlook top post to Unix Bottom post format.

I sure would like to know how you are doing this. I have been on
this list for 4 years and I have never seen this before. Would you
please share with me and the other readers how you do this.

Thanks
Joe


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[-- Message reformatted to fix Outlook format --]

On 2004-07-31 14:17, JJB <Barbish3@adelphia.net> wrote:
>Giorgos Keramidas wrote on July 31, 2004 1:36 PM
>>On 2004-07-31 12:08, "James A. Coulter" <james.coulter@cox.net
wrote:
>>> My LAN is configured with static IP addresses, 192.168.1.x.
>>>
>>> I have no problems communicating within the LAN.
>>>
>>> I have full connectivity with the internet from every machine on
>>> my LAN when the firewall is open.
>>>
>>> When I use the rule set in question, I can ping and send mail
but
>>> I cannot access the DNS servers listed in resolv.conf.
>>
>> There are many ways in which your ruleset might break.  Two of
the
>> most important comments I wanted to make when I first saw the
posts
>> of this thread are: [...]
>>
>> b) Why do you use so many rules that 'filter' outgoing traffic?
>>
>> I saw smtp, pop3, time, http, https and many others.  You
>> don't need to explicitly allow outgoing connections unless
>> the users in the internal LAN are not to be trusted at all
>> and even then IPFW is most of the time not the right way to
>> do it.
>
> If you had read the start of the thread you would have read the
new
> handbook firewall section rewrite which explains in detail why the
re
> are rules to control access to the public internet from LAN users.

I've read a very detailed guide that you wrote, linked by one of
your
posts and available online at:

http://freebsd.a1poweruser.com:6088/FBSD_firewall/

This guide contains a great deal of useful information and it would
be
cool if it was somehow incorporated to the Handbook.  It's not yet,
but
I like most of the text so I hope it gets converted to SGML and
added to
the Handbook either in parts or as a whole.

If by "... which explains in detail why..." you refer to this
particular
quote from that document, I'm not sure that it is always a good idea
but
that's my own opinion:

    "The Outbound section in the following rule set only contains
`pass'
    rules which contain selection values that uniquely identify the
    service that is authorized for public internet access."

In a corporate environment, where access to the Internet has to be
limited and/or controlled in a more or less strict manner, it looks
like
a great idea.

At home, where a couple of machines share a single Internet
connection
through a dialup or DSL line, this might be a bit too limiting ;-)

- Giorgos

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On 2004-07-31 20:07, JJB <Barbish3@adelphia.net> wrote:
> Now many home LAN environments have ms/windows boxes and that system
> is the target of all the adware and spyware programs. These
> unauthorized programs all most always use non-standard ports to
> phone home and report on your activity. The only way to defend
> against the 'report home action' is to block all outbound ports
> except for those explicitly allowed by firewall rules.

Ah, yes.  This makes much more sense.  I never thought of this because
the computers I have at home run only UNIX variants now.

In such cases, you're right that outbound traffic needs to be controlled
to in some way.

> New subject.
> I see from your post, what looks like you have an automated way to
> reformat MS/outlook top post to Unix Bottom post format.
>
> I sure would like to know how you are doing this. I have been on
> this list for 4 years and I have never seen this before. Would you
> please share with me and the other readers how you do this.

`Manually' is the short answer.

I don't usually spend the time to hit the right keys in Emacs to
reformat the message.  Your message is one of the few exceptions,
because I really wanted to reply.  Most of the time, when I see text
that Outlook has converted magically to garbage I hit DEL.

The tricks I use in Emacs are simple -- not really automated stuff.
`C-x .'  sets the fill-prefix and a few RET lines will quickly separate
the message in sections like these:

    > >>> When I use the rule set in question, I can ping and send mail
    > but
    > >>> I cannot access the DNS servers listed in resolv.conf.
    > >>
    > >> There are many ways in which your ruleset might break.  Two of
    > the
    > >> most important comments I wanted to make when I first saw the
    > posts
    > >> of this thread are: [...]

    > I've read a very detailed guide that you wrote, linked by one of
    > your
    > posts and available online at:

    > http://freebsd.a1poweruser.com:6088/FBSD_firewall/

    > This guide contains a great deal of useful information and it would
    > be
    > cool if it was somehow incorporated to the Handbook.  It's not yet,
    > but
    > I like most of the text so I hope it gets converted to SGML and
    > added to
    > the Handbook either in parts or as a whole.

Moving the pointer just past the "> " or "> >>> " text that I want to
use as the quotation mark and hitting `C-x .' sets the fill-prefix and
then `M-q' (or ESC-q) refills the paragraph.  Some lines like the ones
that Outlook has wrapped in weird ways, i.e. like this:

    > >>> When I use the rule set in question, I can ping and send mail
    > but

might need a bit of editing before M-q filling works correctly, but
these are usually very few after I've trimmed the text.

- Giorgos

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aspell works well too....that's what I use.

--Brian

On Sat, 31 Jul 2004 18:36:47 +0300, Ion-Mihai Tetcu <itetcu@apropo.ro> wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Jul 2004 05:55:16 -0700 (PDT)
> Mark Jayson Alvarez <jay2xra@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >   I'm looking for a dictionary software which I can
> > use even if I'm not connected to the internet as
> > oppose to what kdict in KDE does. Do you happen to
> > know one?
> 
> use kdict but with a local db; for that install net/dictd-database which
> will pull in net/dictd
> 
> --
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> Unregistered ;) FreeBSD "user"
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wGreetings,

I've been a newbie on FreeBSD 5.2.1 now for about a month. I Have had 
much success lately but I wanted to try the cvsup and update the sources
(/usr/src) so I can stay current on patches and security updates.

I've managed to create a cvsupfile but all the docs I've read do not
instruct you how to update the old files with the new files. Does this 
happen automatically or do I need to create a script to do it ?

I setup my cvsupfile to grab src-all and it downloaded but now I have 
filenames with a ,v for almost every file.  Like Makefile and now there is  
a Makefile,v in /usr/src and make buildworld will not compile anymore. It 
get errors when trying to build tools.  

Below is a snip of my cvsupfile,  did I do something wrong? or forget a
step? I've followed the docs and howto's relating to this to a T as far as
I can tell.

Thanks in advance!

Paul R Culmo


--snip--

*default host=ftp4.us.FreeBSD.org
*default base=/usr
*default prefix=/usr
*default release=cvs RELENG_5_2_1_RELEASE
*default delete use-rel-suffix


*default compress

src-all
ports-base
ports-www
#cvsroot-common
#cvsroot-src
#cvsroot-ports
#cvsroot-doc

--end snip---





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On Sunday 01 August 2004 03:51, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> On 2004-07-31 18:43, Mark Ovens <marko@freebsd.org> wrote:
> >Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote:
> >>On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 14:30:59 +0100 Mark Ovens <marko@freebsd.org> wrote:
> >>> To implement this in a running X session type this in an xterm
> >>>
> >>> xmodmap -e "keysym Delete = 0x04"
> >>>

The default code produced by the Delete key and interpretation by X is fine.
Xterm produces the standard ANSI sequence "^[[3~" as it should and this is 
encoded in termcap for xterm as delete character. And this will work as 
expected for many applications working within an xterm window. The problem 
comes about that the shell does not honour this termcap entry.

Don't fool with xmodmap; it will work against you in applications -- just 
bind the key sequence in your shell (tcsh?)
$  bindkey "^[[3~" delete-char

I guess it would not be too difficult to extract the correct string from
termcap so that it worked for all (most) terminals but most now use the 
standard ANSI sequences so it is probably not worth the effort.

Malcolm



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Paul R Culmo <pculmo@obs2.net> wrote:
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> wGreetings,
> 
> I've been a newbie on FreeBSD 5.2.1 now for about a month. I Have had 
> much success lately but I wanted to try the cvsup and update the sources
> (/usr/src) so I can stay current on patches and security updates.
> 
> I've managed to create a cvsupfile but all the docs I've read do not
> instruct you how to update the old files with the new files. Does this 
> happen automatically or do I need to create a script to do it ?
> 
> I setup my cvsupfile to grab src-all and it downloaded but now I have 
> filenames with a ,v for almost every file.  Like Makefile and now there is  
> a Makefile,v in /usr/src and make buildworld will not compile anymore. It 
> get errors when trying to build tools.  
> 
> Below is a snip of my cvsupfile,  did I do something wrong?

Yes, I think your supfile is wrong.

> --snip--
> 
> *default host=ftp4.us.FreeBSD.org
> *default base=/usr
> *default prefix=/usr
> *default release=cvs RELENG_5_2_1_RELEASE

^^^ This line is what I believe is wrong, replace it with these two
lines:
*default release=cvs
*default tag=RELENG_5_2_1_RELEASE

Although I would recommend tag=RELENG_5_2_1, but that's you're call.

> *default delete use-rel-suffix
> 
> 
> *default compress
> 
> src-all
> ports-base
> ports-www
> #cvsroot-common
> #cvsroot-src
> #cvsroot-ports
> #cvsroot-doc

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Matthew Seaman wrote:

>On Sat, Jul 31, 2004 at 10:30:21PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>  
>
>>where are raw devices in FreeBSD? do they exist at all?
>>    
>>
>
>Actually, all devices under FreeBSD are raw or character devices.
>Block devices on the other hand disappeared a long time ago.  It's all
>to do with having an advance VM system, apparently:
>
>    http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/arch-handbook/driverbasics-block.html
>    
>	Cheers,
>
>	Matthew
>  
>

Hmm, now I'm a tad curious --- or confused.  ceri@ just committed a
revised synopsis I hacked at for the handbook's Vinum chapter which
states, among other things:

    "In addition to supporting various cards and controllers for hardware
    RAID systems, the base FreeBSD system includes the Vinum Volume
    Manager, a block device driver that implements virtual disk drives."

So is there conflicting data here?  Might be good to figure out the
truth before the next edition handbook goes to the printer (which may be 
soon...)

However, I'd be first to admit a dire lack of knowledge here... help?

Kevin Kinsey
DaleCo, S.P.

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I recently posted the following message to MySQL discussion list. The
response there, and the one I keep finding on Google, is that this is a
long-standing issue betweeen FreeBSD and MySQL. For me this has been
happening since FreeBSD 4.4.

I have one site where we are going to have to move to Linux. I would much
prefer keeping us on FreeBSD, but we just can't afford the downtime anymore.
Another site is looking at moving to PostgreSQL on FreeBSD.

Any help on this? Googling shows a long history of people having these
problems but no solutions. Please don't give me a URL to a Google showing
others having this problem--I've seen that and more. I want to know if there
is a solution. Any help is appreciated!

...

I have several MySQL and FreeBSD installs across a few different sites, and
I consistently have problems with mysqld. It will begin to eat up all of the
CPU and eventually become unresponsive (or the machine will just burn). I
can't seem to manually reproduce this, but given enough time a FreeBSD box
with mysqld will go down.

Our servers are generally heavily loaded.

I would say that I'm doing something wrong (although what I could be doing
wrong I'm not sure), but I recently began working with another company that
has the EXACT SAME PROBLEM. They are even thinking of moving to PostgreSQL,
but we are trying to fix mysqld instead for now.

This behavior has been seen on:

FreeBSD 4.4, 4.7, 4.9, 4.10
MySQL 3.x and 4.x
Typical load: 50 qps
With and without replication enabled.
Some sites are SELECT heavy, some are INSERT heavy.

For one site I think we will be moving from FreeBSD to Linux for the MySQL
servers since MySQL seems to run like a champ on Linux. We will continue to
use FreeBSD for everything else.

Anyone experienced this problem? Is it mysqld or FreeBSD? I can't pinpoint
the exact issue.

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I am receiving your email address on my television screen.  It happens late on Saturday evenings.  Can you address this situation, please.  Sylvia Bowman

		
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my oh my i never knew that fbsd was that powerful, hey i never heard of
linux manipulating a tv signal  what chanell is this on, .
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<removed hackers@, database@>

Before the rest of the message ... I think it'd be best not to "shotgun"
your mails like this...

adp wrote:

>I recently posted the following message to MySQL discussion list. The
>response there, and the one I keep finding on Google, is that this is a
>long-standing issue betweeen FreeBSD and MySQL. For me this has been
>happening since FreeBSD 4.4.
>
>I have one site where we are going to have to move to Linux. I would much
>prefer keeping us on FreeBSD, but we just can't afford the downtime anymore.
>Another site is looking at moving to PostgreSQL on FreeBSD.
>
>Any help on this? Googling shows a long history of people having these
>problems but no solutions. Please don't give me a URL to a Google showing
>others having this problem--I've seen that and more. I want to know if there
>is a solution. Any help is appreciated!
>
>...
>
>I have several MySQL and FreeBSD installs across a few different sites, and
>I consistently have problems with mysqld. It will begin to eat up all of the
>CPU and eventually become unresponsive (or the machine will just burn). I
>can't seem to manually reproduce this, but given enough time a FreeBSD box
>with mysqld will go down.
>
>Our servers are generally heavily loaded.
>
>I would say that I'm doing something wrong (although what I could be doing
>wrong I'm not sure), but I recently began working with another company that
>has the EXACT SAME PROBLEM. They are even thinking of moving to PostgreSQL,
>but we are trying to fix mysqld instead for now.
>
>This behavior has been seen on:
>
>FreeBSD 4.4, 4.7, 4.9, 4.10
>MySQL 3.x and 4.x
>Typical load: 50 qps
>With and without replication enabled.
>Some sites are SELECT heavy, some are INSERT heavy.
>
>For one site I think we will be moving from FreeBSD to Linux for the MySQL
>servers since MySQL seems to run like a champ on Linux. We will continue to
>use FreeBSD for everything else.
>
>Anyone experienced this problem? Is it mysqld or FreeBSD? I can't pinpoint
>the exact issue.
>  
>

It's certain combinations of the two, best I can tell.  Looks like you
can stay with FBSD if you want to do the tweaking --- be sure and
read the second article if your are going to read the first ....

"FreeBSD or Linux for your MySQL Server?"
    http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/000203.html

"Revisiting FreeBSD vs. Linux for MySQL"
    http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/000697.html

HTH,

Kevin Kinsey
DaleCo, S.P.

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sylvia bowman <sylviabow@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I am receiving your email address on my television screen.  It happens
> late on Saturday evenings.  Can you address this situation, please.
>  Sylvia Bowman

I'm assuming this isn't a joke ...

This is about the most unlikely thing I've ever heard of.  However, if it
really is happening, you're going to have to give a better description of
what you mean.  Are you saying that on Saturday evenings your TV screen
says "questions@freebsd.org"?  Or that you see FreeBSD emails on your
screen?

Are you using some sort of webTV?

-- 
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Hi,

Does anyone know of a .pdf viewer in the ports tree, or elsewhere, that 
will allow you to fill in forms.  Acrored, kghostview and xpdf all work 
quite well for viewing, but don't provide that very useful feature.

Thanks,

Joey

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On Sat, 31 Jul 2004, Bill Moran wrote:
> Yes, I think your supfile is wrong.

> > *default release=cvs RELENG_5_2_1_RELEASE
> 
> ^^^ This line is what I believe is wrong, replace it with these two
> lines:
> *default release=cvs
> *default tag=RELENG_5_2_1_RELEASE
> 
> Although I would recommend tag=RELENG_5_2_1, but that's you're call.
> 

Thanks for the reply ,  I made the changes you suggested and re-ran the 
cvsup but then things got worse,  it deleted all the Makefiles.  I guess I 
need to start over with a vanilla src tree from the CD?  then make 
buildworld etc.. right ?

Thanks again 

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Hi,

I am very new to BSD and web servers and have just recently installed =
the latest 5.2 version. I have installed Apache 1.3 from the FreeBSD ftp =
site and have added mod_dav successfully.  The web server and webDAV are =
working fine. I now want to add php4 and mySQL capabilities. I have read =
some of the latest mail and am confused as to how to best go about it.  =
I have never used php or mySQL before nor have I had it installed on a =
web server. What packages and in what sequence , if any, should I =
install ?  Also,  what does the number 20020429 at the end =
(/usr/local/lib/php/20020429 )  signify?  Thanks in advance for your =
help!

Bob Kukla

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Sylvia bowman wrote:

>I am receiving your email address on my television screen.  It happens late on Saturday evenings.  Can you address this situation, please.  Sylvia 
Bowman
>

Please wrap your messages at 80 characters.

This certainly seems very unusual.

I have several suggestions, but I am not Too Hopeful(tm)
for success in assisting you.

*If your TV is running "Web TV" or "MSN TV" delete these viruses...

*If your TV is showing "tech TV" via satellite, change
   channels/transponders/providers...

*If you are running your TV screen as a computer monitor,
   revise your expectations...

*If you are a psychic, realize that the collective consciousness
   of the INTERNET is begging you to switch operating systems...

*If you believe in God, realize that He is asking you to look
   for technical answers in a place other than the Bible ...

*If you have a metal television chassis, look on the rear of
   the unit, find a switch marked "MAGIC" and "MORE MAGIC",
   and switch it to the "MAGIC" side ....

Whatever you do, *NEVER* stick the electrical connector from
   your TV into any bodily orifice, as electrical discharge
   may occur...

I predict that you will see more of this address before the
problem is solved....

HTH,

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Previous message had no subject,,, sorry for that


Hi,

I am very new to BSD and web servers and have just recently installed =
the latest 5.2 version. I have installed Apache 1.3 from the FreeBSD ftp =
site and have added mod_dav successfully.  The web server and webDAV are =
working fine. I now want to add php4 and mySQL capabilities. I have read =
some of the latest mail and am confused as to how to best go about it.  =
I have never used php or mySQL before nor have I had it installed on a =
web server. What packages and in what sequence , if any, should I =
install ?  Also,  what does the number 20020429 at the end =
(/usr/local/lib/php/20020429 )  signify?  Thanks in advance for your =
help!

Bob Kukla

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> <removed hackers@, database@>
>
> Before the rest of the message ... I think it'd be best not to "shotgun"
> your mails like this...

Hello.

I would disagree with this. This is obviously both database@ and
questions@ appropriate. I also feel that it is hackers@ appropriate as it
deals with an old, existing, and non-trivial problem that is very much
related to FreeBSD. (In fact, reading the URLs you note below, this was
almost entirely a FreeBSD internals problem.)


> It's certain combinations of the two, best I can tell.  Looks like you
> can stay with FBSD if you want to do the tweaking --- be sure and
> read the second article if your are going to read the first ....
>
> "FreeBSD or Linux for your MySQL Server?"
>     http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/000203.html
>
> "Revisiting FreeBSD vs. Linux for MySQL"
>     http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/000697.html

Excellent. I had read his earlier notes a long time back, but did not know
he had found some solutions to this problem.


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Bob Kukla wrote:

>Previous message had no subject,,, sorry for that
>
>  
>

We are all newbies ... some are older newbies ...
Even the "oldies" know that they're just "newbies
with experience" ... ;-)

>Hi,
>
>I am very new to BSD and web servers and have just recently installed the latest 5.2 version. I have installed Apache 1.3 from the FreeBSD ftp site and have added mod_dav successfully.  The web server and webDAV are working fine. I now want to add php4 and mySQL capabilities. I have read some of the latest mail and am confused as to how to best go about it.  I have never used php or mySQL before nor have I had it installed on a web server. What packages and in what sequence , if any, should I install ?  Also,  what does the number 20020429 at the end (/usr/local/lib/php/20020429 )  signify?  Thanks in advance for your help!
>
>Bob Kukla
>  
>

I've no experience with mod_dav (in fact I just got done looking
it up at google), so I can't say whether it will be affected, or not
(I would suspect not, I tend to be an optimist....) but:

[Read the lower section about MySQL before you
do any installation ...]

I generally just go to /usr/ports/lang/php4 and type
"make install clean" as root.  This gets me mod_php4,
the PHP CLI, it even builds a CGI you can move to your
cgi dir if you desire/need to.  If it's your first time, then
expect to go through a ncurses-based dialog (remember
sysinstall?) where you will choose PHP extensions to be
built.

After that, it's a matter of the appropriate modifications
to httpd.conf.  I'd sure recommend that you cruise over
to www.php.net and check out their documentation: it's
well done, and they've some install "cheat sheets" for almost
every variety of OS/webserver on the planet (well, many of them,
like I said, I'm optimistic...)

MySQL is similar.  IIRC, it may be best to get MySQL going
first.

Like I said, the docs at php.net are good.  I also like the
boards at www.phpbuilder.com for PHP help and community....

HTH,

Kevin Kinsey

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Dear Manuel,

I've run into similar issues with KDE in the past. You were on the right
track, but apparently the one file konquerorrc wasn't the problem. Just
delete the entire ~/.kde and then restart KDE. You will then be treated
like a new user, and KDE will query for the usual desktop settings
(language, theme, etc). That does mean, of course, that you'll lose any
customized settings you've already made, but that should be no big deal.

regards,
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> Hi,
> 
> something weird happen to the settings of Konqueror in kde 3.2.3 and
> everytime I try to access to a web page on the internet the browser
> freezes. If I try to open local webpages or just use konqueror to
> browse in my filesystem everything works just ok.
> If I login using other user then it also works perfectly, so I suspect
> there is something corrupted in the config files on my current user.
> Is there any way to remove all the config files and start konqueror
> from scratch? I already tried in ~/.kde and deleted konquerorrc but it
> does not help.
> 
> regards,
> 
> Manuel Astudillo.

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On Sun, 1 Aug 2004 00:23:01 -0400 (EDT)
Paul R Culmo <pculmo@obs2.net> wrote:

> On Sat, 31 Jul 2004, Bill Moran wrote:
> > Yes, I think your supfile is wrong.
> 
> > > *default release=cvs RELENG_5_2_1_RELEASE
> > 
> > ^^^ This line is what I believe is wrong, replace it with these two
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> > *default release=cvs
> > *default tag=RELENG_5_2_1_RELEASE
> > 
> > Although I would recommend tag=RELENG_5_2_1, but that's you're call.
> > 
> 
> Thanks for the reply ,  I made the changes you suggested and re-ran the 
> cvsup but then things got worse,  it deleted all the Makefiles.  I guess
> I need to start over with a vanilla src tree from the CD?  then make 
> buildworld etc.. right ?

um, to my knowledge, no.  not if you've got connectivity and cvsup
installed. in fact, you don't even need to remove /usr/src, because cvsup
should take care of everything for you (ie. remove wrong files, add
necessary ones, leave correct ones).

i suspect that your standard-supfile is to blame, if anything isn't
working.  it could be that you're inadvertently pulling down HEAD, which is
by definition, not guaranteed to build.

here is a copy of my file:

--------
*default host=cvsup3.freebsd.org
*default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup
*default prefix=/usr/
*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4_10
*default delete use-rel-suffix compress

# 1) change cvsup3 for the host you want to use
# 2) change RELENG_4_10 for the tag you want
# i believe that RELENG_5_2 is the correct number in your case
# this will pull down any security and other critical fixes based upon
# freebsd 5.2.x

src-base
src-bin
src-contrib
src-crypto
src-etc
src-games
src-gnu
src-include
src-lib
src-libexec
src-release
src-sbin
src-secure
src-share
src-sys
src-sys-crypto
src-tools
src-usrbin
src-usrsbin

#src-all
#src-kerberos5
#src-kerberosIV
#src-eBones
------------

1) you might find it easier to simple use 'src-all' and comment out or
delete the rest of the src-* entries.

2) if you're using a refuse file, do double check that it's contents
reflect what you actually want.  if you're not _100%_sure_ whether or not
you have one, try 'find / -name refuse -print'

3) depending on where you placed your config files, you may not be using
the correct supfile.  try feeding cvsup an absolute path, just to be
certain.  'cvsup /foo/path/to/your/standard-supfile'

hope this helps.


cheers,
epi

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Heh, we should make a FreeBSD version of "All your base are belong to us" :D

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> for world dominance, see http://www.FreeBSD.god/


Heh, we should make a FreeBSD version of "All your base are belong to us" :D

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Greetings,

I am facing a problem in setting up my gateway so I am asking for help.
Let me describe me my setup.

My ISP gateway is *.*.144.49. I am assigned a few static IPS.

*.*.144.54
*.*.147.229
*.*.147.230

I would like to set up a FreeBSD packet filtering gateway. I have currently
laid out my network as:


------------				--------------
-------------
|           |				|		  |
|		  |
|    ISP    |*.*.144.49			| FreeBSD Box |*.*.147.229
|   Linux	  |
|  GATEWAY  |-----------------------|		  |-----------------------|
NAT    |
|           |		  *.*.144.54|		  |
*.*.147.230|		  |
-------------				---------------
-------------
	
| 172.16.0.1
	
|
	
|
	
|
	
|172.16.0.200
	
--------------
	
|		    |
	
|	 LAN	    |
	
|  	 Host	    |
	
|		    |
	
|		    |
	
---------------

My rc.conf looks like:

ifconfig_fxp0="inet 61.95.147.118  netmask 255.255.255.252"
ifconfig_sis0="inet  61.95.147.229 netmask 255.255.255.252"
ifconfig_sis0_alias0="inet 172.16.0.2 netmask 255.255.0.0"
gateway_enable="YES"
routed_enable="YES"
firewall_enable="YES"
firewall_type="OPEN"
arpproxy_all="YES"               # replaces obsolete kernel option
ARP_PROXYALL.
firewall_script="/etc/rc.firewall" # Which script to run to set up the
firewall
ip_portrange_first="10000"         # Set first dynamically allocated port
ip_portrange_last="20000"          # Set last dynamically allocated port
tcp_drop_synfin="YES"            # Set to YES to drop TCP packets with
SYN+FIN
icmp_drop_redirect="YES"         # Set to YES to ignore ICMP REDIRECT
packets

I have still not configured the firewall. I would be highly obliged if
anyone helps me by telling what are the things I am missing out? Another
point to be taken care of is, a couple of systems inside the LAN are having
a public IP. For example one of the host is having an IP of *.*.144.82. I am
not allowed to mess with the Linux NAT box in any way because of some
preinstalled commercial software solutions. However I can change the IPs of
the NAT box if necessary. Please help me out.

Thanks and Best Regards

Subhro

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From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Subhro
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 14:28
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Subject: Gateway Setup

Greetings,

I am facing a problem in setting up my gateway so I am asking for help.
Let me describe me my setup.

My ISP gateway is *.*.144.49. I am assigned a few static IPS.

*.*.144.54
*.*.147.229
*.*.147.230

I would like to set up a FreeBSD packet filtering gateway. I have currently
laid out my network as:


------------				--------------
-------------
|           |				|		  |
|		  |
|    ISP    |*.*.144.49			| FreeBSD Box |*.*.147.229
|   Linux	  |
|  GATEWAY  |-----------------------|		  |-----------------------|
NAT    |
|           |		  *.*.144.54|		  |
*.*.147.230|		  |
-------------				---------------
-------------
	
| 172.16.0.1
	
|
	
|
	
|
	
|172.16.0.200
	
--------------
	
|		    |
	
|	 LAN	    |
	
|  	 Host	    |
	
|		    |
	
|		    |
	
---------------

My rc.conf looks like:

ifconfig_fxp0="inet 61.95.147.118  netmask 255.255.255.252"
ifconfig_sis0="inet  61.95.147.229 netmask 255.255.255.252"
ifconfig_sis0_alias0="inet 172.16.0.2 netmask 255.255.0.0"
gateway_enable="YES"
routed_enable="YES"
firewall_enable="YES"
firewall_type="OPEN"
arpproxy_all="YES"               # replaces obsolete kernel option
ARP_PROXYALL.
firewall_script="/etc/rc.firewall" # Which script to run to set up the
firewall
ip_portrange_first="10000"         # Set first dynamically allocated port
ip_portrange_last="20000"          # Set last dynamically allocated port
tcp_drop_synfin="YES"            # Set to YES to drop TCP packets with
SYN+FIN
icmp_drop_redirect="YES"         # Set to YES to ignore ICMP REDIRECT
packets

I have still not configured the firewall. I would be highly obliged if
anyone helps me by telling what are the things I am missing out? Another
point to be taken care of is, a couple of systems inside the LAN are having
a public IP. For example one of the host is having an IP of *.*.144.82. I am
not allowed to mess with the Linux NAT box in any way because of some
preinstalled commercial software solutions. However I can change the IPs of
the NAT box if necessary. Please help me out.

Thanks and Best Regards

Subhro




Sorry the figure messed up. Actually What I meant is,

The ISP gateway is *.*.144.49

The FreeBSD router is supposed to have two interfaces with IPS *.*.144.54,
which is in the next hop of ISP gateway. The other interface is *.*.147.229.
This interface is supposed to have the packets filtered from *.54. The
interface is connected to a Linux NAT box having one interface, *.*.147.230
and another interface connected to the LAN 172.16.0.1. I am not allowed to
play with the NAT box. Another point to be taken care of is, the LAN
contains a couple of hosts which are assigned a public ip statically. Could
anyone help me setup the above network please?

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On Sunday 01 August 2004 06:06, Bill Moran wrote:
>
> sylvia bowman <sylviabow@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I am receiving your email address on my television screen.  It happens
> > late on Saturday evenings.  Can you address this situation, please.
> >  Sylvia Bowman
>
> I'm assuming this isn't a joke ...
>
> This is about the most unlikely thing I've ever heard of.  However, if it
> really is happening, you're going to have to give a better description of
> what you mean.  Are you saying that on Saturday evenings your TV screen
> says "questions@freebsd.org"?  Or that you see FreeBSD emails on your
> screen?
>
> Are you using some sort of webTV?
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On 2004-08-01 00:23:01 -0400, Paul R Culmo wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Jul 2004, Bill Moran wrote:
> > Yes, I think your supfile is wrong.
> 
> > > *default release=cvs RELENG_5_2_1_RELEASE
> > 
> > ^^^ This line is what I believe is wrong, replace it with these two
> > lines:
> > *default release=cvs
> > *default tag=RELENG_5_2_1_RELEASE
> > 
> > Although I would recommend tag=RELENG_5_2_1, but that's you're call.

It's RELENG_5_2, not RELENG_5_2_1

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I'm curious if there is anyone here who know anything about mbone.  I've
recently become intrested in it, and I've downloaded and setup all the
software for it which I used to do some video conferencing on my LAN.
I've been looking for a way to join the main mbone network but there
seems to be little information on it, or the info there is is dated
before 2000.  Am I just too late and mbone already died off?

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On Sat, Jul 31, 2004 at 10:25:40PM -0500, Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. wro=
te:
> Matthew Seaman wrote:

> >On Sat, Jul 31, 2004 at 10:30:21PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:

> >>where are raw devices in FreeBSD? do they exist at all?

> >Actually, all devices under FreeBSD are raw or character devices.
> >Block devices on the other hand disappeared a long time ago.  It's all
> >to do with having an advance VM system, apparently:
> >
> >   http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/arch-handbook/driver=
basics-block.html
=20
> Hmm, now I'm a tad curious --- or confused.  ceri@ just committed a
> revised synopsis I hacked at for the handbook's Vinum chapter which
> states, among other things:
>=20
>    "In addition to supporting various cards and controllers for hardware
>    RAID systems, the base FreeBSD system includes the Vinum Volume
>    Manager, a block device driver that implements virtual disk drives."
>=20
> So is there conflicting data here?  Might be good to figure out the
> truth before the next edition handbook goes to the printer (which may be=
=20
> soon...)
>=20
> However, I'd be first to admit a dire lack of knowledge here... help?

I think the point is not that a FreeBSD system never communicates with
any device in "block mode", but that there's no exposure of that
interface outside of the kernel.

The original BSD distinction between character and block devices let
people achieve a degree of optimization in certain circumstances by
short circuiting the bufferring etc. involved in using a character
device and interacting more directly with the hardware.

However, that concept was first developed probably some twenty-odd
years ago, and the state of the art in disk and virtual memory
technology has come on a long way since then.  Nowadays, short
circuiting the higher levels of buffer caching just doesn't make
sense.  Let the VM system choose when to push blocks of data out to
the disks or pseudo-disks (ie. RAID arrays, vinum devices etc), or
when to read them in.  It knows best.

	Cheers,

	Matthew

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On Sat, Jul 31, 2004 at 11:04:25PM -0400, Bill Moran wrote:

> Although I would recommend tag=3DRELENG_5_2_1, but that's you're call.

Make that tag=3DRELENG_5_2 -- there's no such tag as the one you
recommend, and trying to use that will end up deleting all of the
user's files.  Note too that this tag only applies to the src -- not
the ports.  Try this instead:

    *default host=3Dftp4.us.freebsd.org
    *default base=3D/usr
    *default prefix=3D/usr
    *default release=3Dcvs tag=3DRELENG_5_2
    *default delete use-rel-suffix
    *default compress

    src-all
    ports-all tag=3D.

Note too that there's not much point in only grabbing parts of the
ports collection.  Unless you know exactly what you're doing, you need
the whole thing in order to have much change of success at using it.

	Cheers

	Matthew

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--- Bill Moran <wmoran@potentialtech.com> wrote:
> > My bootup is fine, its the BSD+wmaker running & opening nedit & a cmd
> prompts
> > > that are slower than Windows 2000 ?? any suggestions as to why ??
> My FreeBSD system, using Gnome (which is a system hog) is faster than when
> Windows NT was installed ... and I _KNOW_ NT is faster than W2K.  So, if
> you're honestly having speed problems, then something is wrong.
> 
> So, you need to do the proper steps to figure out what's wrong with your
> system.  Have you pasted a dmesg?  My first guess would be that your
> hardware is a little off, and Windows has drivers for it but FreeBSD doesn't,
> thus you get expected performance on Windows, but crap on FreeBSD.


Hi Bill,

Apologies if I come across as trolling. I guess I had too high an expectation
as to what I expected FBSD to be able to do. I will refrain from doing
comparisons with Windows as that seems to just annoy people.


As for dmesg, I will run that tonight & post that. I assume I type: dmesg -a

 

> Also, are you saying that you run nedit on both Windows and FreeBSD and it's
> faster on Windows?  Or are you comparing nedit to an apple?

I run Nedit on FBSD & Emeditor on Windows which is much more GUI color
intensive & has many more functions than Nedit. Again, EmEditor on Windows
loads & runs "much faster" then Nedit on FBSD. As you said, it may be that FBSD
has defaulted hardware for my box that is incorrect.


> Also, have you monitored various system "stuff"?  Run top, systat, etc
> while starting the programs in an attempt to isolate the bottleneck.

If there is any other particular diagnostic programs on FBSD that you want me
to run & post the details that may help identify my slow performance please let
me know ??

I haven't run top or systat, but I will run them tonight.


Kind Regards,

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--- Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr> wrote:
> You should really try TkDesk one of these days.  It's my all times
> favorite from the x11-fm category! ;-)

thanks, will try it tonight.
 

> You have to be VERY careful when reading the instructions.  There is no
> "groupadd" command on FreeBSD.  There is a "pw" command though, which
> accepts a "groupadd" option to add new user groups.  The full command
> would be then:
> 
> 	# pw groupadd mysql

that worked, thanks.


 
> > Raw numbers no... just sitting in front of the BSD screen counting the
> > seconds.. wondering how people use this OS - then I do a reboot &
> > select WIN2000 & can't believe the difference.  If you want, when I
> > have time, I could take an mpg of it & upload it for all ??
> 
> An mpg of FreeBSD running?  Hmmm, I'd be interested to know exactly HOW
> you'd do that.  You're not complaining about the apparent slowness of
> FreeBSD by running it under VMWare or something similar, right?

VM no. Just a hand held digital Video Camera showing the running of both OS on
the same box.



> I haven't tried setting it up yet, so I'm not the best person to ask for
> instructions but I might find the time to tinker with it this weekend.
> 
> Amazingly similar look to Windows XP though ;-)

Let me know if you get this one installed ok.



> > I can mount my Floppy when I run gluggy KDE, but under Wmaker, I type:
> > mount -v -t msdos /dev/fd0c /mnt
> > ... and this says its mounted
> 
> Try changing the current directory to /mnt and see what files are in
> that directory.  Are they the floppy contents?

Floppy & CD mount OK now, however even though the floppy mounts OK, when I
mount the floppy, I get:

127# mount -v -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt
/dev/fd0 on /mnt (msdos, local, reads: sync 2 async 0)

floppy: mount -v -t msdos /dev/fd0c /mnt
CDROM: mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0c /cdrom


However, I can't seem to unmount them. I get "Command not found".
127# unmount /cdrom
unmount: Command not found.



> > When I run partition magic in Win2000, its says that I have a BAD
> > partition. Doing some searching, found that BSD messes up something
> > with the sizes of the geometry of the selected partitions(slices) -
> > still don't know how to fix this ???
> 
> Don't "fix" anything.  It's more likely that just Partition Magic that
> is brain-damaged and cannot read the BSD partition properly.

No, partition magic can read the BSD partition correctly. PM is saying the
whole primary parition(both Windows 2000 + FBSD) is BAD(nothing to do with
surface errors)

I can't remember where I read it(BSD site or book, will look later) but when
you make the slices, the sizes must add up to a certain divisable number,
otherwise part of the partition(small number like 1024kb) will be unusable.
Thats why PM is saying that the whole partition is BAD. But I don't know how to
fix this ???



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--- Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr> wrote:
> > My bootup is fine, its the BSD+wmaker running & opening nedit & a cmd
> > prompts that are slower than Windows 2000 ?? any suggestions as to why ??
> 
> You're probably using X11 with a "vesa" driver or something that doesn't
> take advantage of all the accelerations that your hardware can provide.

Hi Giorgos,

Where do I look to see which driver X11 is using ???

And if it is using a "vesa" driver, how do I change that to a driver that is
specific to my hardware: ie. 16MB Creative Graphics Blaster Riva TNT  ???


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--- Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr> wrote:
> Oh come on, I consider autorunning of removable media a security risk.  You
> like it and try to present the opposite behavior as a fault.  I don't think
> there is any case we can agree on this point.  The best we can do about it
> is help you install amd, the automounter daemon and let us all live in peace
> :P

Hi Giorgos,

I understand your point & why MS have autorun on by default. Because a lot of
newbies to Windows don't even know what/where setup.exe is to start a program.
So to make it easier to install Office after Windows has been installed, AR is
on by default. I agree with you though, autorun(NOT automount) IS a security
risk & I have have it disabled.



> > > Is it so hard to edit a text file like rc.conf and add a simple line
> > > like this?
> > >
> > >         amd_enable="YES"

I edited rc.conf & added the line: amd_enable="YES"


However, my devices(Floppy & CDROM) are not automounting after logging in or
starting X  ???

In the process view of BSD, I have amd as waiting

Trying to understand man amd isn't helping. Any ideas ???



I have some other problems as well:

1) Trying to search for a file I get the error:

127# locate mysql
locate: database too small: /var/db/locate.database



2) I deleted the installed package xfce4, then added it again but xfce4 still
won't start. Is the warnings(about versions) given when I add the
package(below) a cause of why it won't start ???

127# pkg_add xfce4-wm-4.0.5.tgz
pkg_add: warning: package 'xfce4-wm-4.0.5' requires 'jpeg-6b_3', but
'jpeg-6b_2' is installed
pkg_add: warning: package 'xfce4-wm-4.0.5' requires 'python-2.3.4', but
'python-2.3.3_5' is installed
pkg_add: warning: package 'xfce4-wm-4.0.5' requires 'png-1.2.5_5', but
'png-1.2.5_3' is installed
pkg_add: warning: package 'xfce4-wm-4.0.5' requires 'glib-2.4.2', but
'glib-2.4.0' is installed
pkg_add: warning: package 'xfce4-wm-4.0.5' requires 'shared-mime-info-0.14_3',
but 'shared-mime-info-0.14_2' is installed
pkg_add: warning: package 'xfce4-wm-4.0.5' requires 'pango-1.4.0_1', but
'pango-1.4.0' is installed
pkg_add: warning: package 'xfce4-wm-4.0.5' requires 'gtk-2.4.3_1', but
'gtk-2.4.0' is installed
pkg_add: warning: package 'xfce4-wm-4.0.5' requires 'startup-notification-0.7',
but 'startup-notification-0.6' is installed



3)I am trying to install Apachetoolbox-1.5.70(it may well be a BigApache for
BSD :)) - but I get the errors "Command not found" trying to run it:

127# pwd
/usr/ports/distfiles/Apachetoolbox-1.5.70
127# ls
CHANGE          MIRROR          bin             etc             src
INSTALL         README          contrib         install.sh
127# ./install. sh
./install.: Command not found.
127# ./install sh
./install: Command not found.
127# ./install 
./install: Command not found.


then I tried using bash after reading:
Install
=-=-=-=
1) as root run ./install.sh
******************************************************************************
Solaris/BSD users, the script interpreter of install.sh is BASH (/bin/bash).
Bash should be used, YMMV if you change it to /bin/sh.
******************************************************************************



127# bash
bash-2.05# pwd
/usr/ports/distfiles/Apachetoolbox-1.5.70
bash-2.05# ls
CHANGE          MIRROR          bin             etc             src
INSTALL         README          contrib         install.sh
bash-2.05# ./install
bash: ./install: No such file or directory
bash-2.05# ./install.sh
bash: ./install.sh: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
bash-2.05# ./install   
bash: ./install: No such file or directory



Any ideas to these 3 last problems ???


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Hi all
i've finally had success with installing freebsd, running -CURRENT  &
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Hi

After browsing the *BSD cvsweb site, I have found that
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I'm using kdm as Display Manager with FreeBSD. If I select a GNOME =
session as root and then try to restart/shutdown from GNOME the system =
hangs (until I press Ctrl-Alt-Del, when reboot sequence continues =
normally). How can I avoid this?

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Hi all

Can freebsd run on 64 bit CPU?

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On Sun, 1 Aug 2004, [iso-8859-1] adrian kok wrote:

> Hi all
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> Can freebsd run on 64 bit CPU?
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> Thank you very much
>

Which 64bit CPU?

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On Sun, Aug 01, 2004 at 07:32:01PM +0800, adrian kok wrote:

> Can freebsd run on 64 bit CPU?

Yes.  Take your pick of AMD64, UltraSparc, Alpha, IA64 and then
there's a bunch of other architectures "in progress", including MIPS
and PPC.

But I'm perplexed as to why you need to ask here when this information
is displayed quite prominently right on the front page of the FreeBSD
website.

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> i've finally had success with installing freebsd, running -CURRENT  &
> xorg solid now, very pleased indeed. So now im just build my system,
> with the apps i use etc etc but i have a question, to test the GL out of
> my nvidia card *which is perfect actually* i tried quake3, the only
> problem i have is, my mouse doesn't seem to want to work it wont grab
> it, its a silly question i know, i have search google but havn't found
> anything relating
> Thanks everyone

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Morten Liebach <m@mongers.org> wrote:

> On 2004-08-01 00:23:01 -0400, Paul R Culmo wrote:
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> > > Yes, I think your supfile is wrong.
> > 
> > > > *default release=cvs RELENG_5_2_1_RELEASE
> > > 
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> > > *default tag=RELENG_5_2_1_RELEASE
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> It's RELENG_5_2, not RELENG_5_2_1

Oops ... sorry about that.  Yeah, trying to grab RELENG_5_2_1 would result
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I changed the DNS rules as you suggested, and the firewall works perfectly -
thanks very much.

This has been a great learning experience for me - thanks to all who
responded.

Jim C

> -----Original Message-----
> From: JJB [mailto:Barbish3@adelphia.net] 
> Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2004 1:08 PM
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> Subject: RE: Firewall Rule Set not allowing access to DNS servers?
> 
> 
> Look back at the ipfw sample rule set and you will see that 
> there are both udp and tcp protocol access to DSN. Also not 
> that udp does not use setup keyword.
> 
> # Allow out access to my ISP's Domain name server.
> # x.x.x.x must be the IP address of your ISP's DNS
> # Dup these lines if your ISP has more than one DNS server
> # Get the IP addresses from /etc/resolv.conf file
> $cmd 00110 allow tcp from any to x.x.x.x 53 out via $pif 
> setup keep-state $cmd 00111 allow udp from any to x.x.x.x 53 
> out via $pif keep-state
> 
> You DNS rules are
> # Allow out access to my ISP's Domain name server.
> # x.x.x.x must be the IP address of your ISP's DNS
> # Dup these lines if your ISP has more than one DNS server
> # Get the IP addresses from /etc/resolv.conf file
> $cmd 020 $skip UDP from any to 68.105.161.20 53 out via $pif 
> setup keep-state $cmd 021 $skip UDP from any to 68.1.18.25 53 
> out via $pif setup keep-state $cmd 022 $skip UDP from any to 
> 68.10.16.30 53 out via $pif setup keep-state
> 
> As you can see you have no tcp protocol statements.
> Your  udp rules use setup keyword which is only for tcp rules 
> so your udp packets never match this rule and default to 
> getting blocked which is why you get log error messages and 
> you can not access public internet.
> 
> Also if you look closely at the first 4 ipfw log messages you 
> will see first message is about ip address 193.0.14.129 which is the
> primary dns server pointed to by url search pn.at.cox.net   in
> /etc/resolv.conf
> 
> Change your DNS rules to look like this
> 
> # Allow out access to my ISP's Domain name server.
> # x.x.x.x must be the IP address of your ISP's DNS
> # Dup these lines if your ISP has more than one DNS server
> # Get the IP addresses from /etc/resolv.conf file
> $cmd 020 $skip udp from any to 193.0.14.129 53 out via $pif 
> keep-state $cmd 021 $skip udp from any to 68.1.18.25 53 out 
> via $pif keep-state $cmd 022 $skip udp from any to 
> 68.10.16.30 53 out via $pif keep-state $cmd 023 $skip udp 
> from any to 68.105.161.20 53 out via $pif keep-state $cmd 024 
> $skip tcp  from any to 193.0.14.129 53 out via $pif setup 
> keep-state $cmd 025 $skip tcp  from any to 68.1.18.25 53 out 
> via $pif  setup keep-state $cmd 026 $skip tcp  from any to 
> 68.10.16.30 53 out via $pif  setup keep-state $cmd 027 $skip 
> tcp  from any to 68.105.161.20 53 out via $pif  setup keep-state
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of 
> James A. Coulter
> Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2004 1:09 PM
> To: Barbish3@adelphia.net; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: RE: Firewall Rule Set not allowing access to DNS servers?
> 
> My LAN is configured with static IP addresses, 192.168.1.x.
> 
> I have no problems communicating within the LAN.
> 
> I have full connectivity with the internet from every machine 
> on my LAN when the firewall is open.
> 
> When I use the rule set in question, I can ping and send mail 
> but I cannot access the DNS servers listed in resolv.conf.
> 
> These are the same DNS servers placed in resolv.conf when the 
> firewall is open.
> 
> I'm sorry, but I never said dc1 was my inside nic.
> 
> Again, I appreciate any help with this.  The files you 
> requested follow.
> 
> Here's my ifconfig - a:
> 
> sara# ifconfig -a
> dc0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
>         inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255
>         inet6 fe80::204:5aff:fe76:55f0%dc0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
>         ether 00:04:5a:76:55:f0
>         media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX <full-duplex>)
>         status: active
> dc1: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
>         inet6 fe80::2a0:ccff:fe33:e1f6%dc1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2
>         inet 68.105.58.150 netmask 0xfffffe00 broadcast 68.105.59.255
>         ether 00:a0:cc:33:e1:f6
>         media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX <full-duplex>)
>         status: active
> lp0: flags=8810<POINTOPOINT,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
> lo0: flags=8049<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 16384
>         inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
>         inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4
>         inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000
> ppp0: flags=8010<POINTOPOINT,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
> sl0: flags=c010<POINTOPOINT,LINK2,MULTICAST> mtu 552
> faith0: flags=8002<BROADCAST,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
> 
> Here's resolv.conf:
> 
> sara# more /etc/resolv.conf
> search pn.at.cox.net
> nameserver 68.105.161.20
> nameserver 68.1.18.25
> nameserver 68.10.16.30
> 
> Here's the entire rule set I'm trying to use.
> 
> I did follow the comments.
> 
> Please note the variable pif is set to dc1, my outside nic.
> 
> ################ Start of IPFW rules file 
> ############################### # Flush out the list before 
> we begin. ipfw -q -f flush # Set rules command prefix 
> cmd="ipfw -q add" skip="skipto 800"
> pif="dc1"     # public interface name of Nic card
>               # facing the public internet
> 
> 
> 
> #################################################################
> # No restrictions on Inside Lan Interface for private network
> # Change xl0 to your Lan Nic card interface name 
> #################################################################
> $cmd 005 allow all from any to any via dc0
> 
> #################################################################
> # No restrictions on Loopback Interface 
> #################################################################
> $cmd 010 allow all from any to any via lo0
> 
> #################################################################
> # check if packet is inbound and nat address if it is 
> #################################################################
> $cmd 014 divert natd ip from any to any in via $pif
> 
> #################################################################
> # Allow the packet through if it has previous been added to 
> the # the "dynamic" rules table by a allow keep-state 
> statement. 
> #################################################################
> $cmd 015 check-state
> 
> #################################################################
> # Interface facing Public internet (Outbound Section)
> # Interrogate session start requests originating from behind 
> the # firewall on the private network or from this gateway 
> server # destine for the public internet. 
> #################################################################
> 
> # Allow out access to my ISP's Domain name server.
> # x.x.x.x must be the IP address of your ISP's DNS
> # Dup these lines if your ISP has more than one DNS server
> # Get the IP addresses from /etc/resolv.conf file
> $cmd 020 $skip UDP from any to 68.105.161.20 53 out via $pif 
> setup keep-state $cmd 021 $skip UDP from any to 68.1.18.25 53 
> out via $pif setup keep-state $cmd 022 $skip UDP from any to 
> 68.10.16.30 53 out via $pif setup keep-state
> 
> # Allow out access to my ISP's DHCP server for cable/DSL 
> configurations. $cmd 030 $skip udp from any to 172.19.17.22 
> 67 out via $pif keep-state
> 
> # Allow out non-secure standard www function
> $cmd 040 $skip tcp from any to any 80 out via $pif setup keep-state
> 
> # Allow out secure www function https over TLS SSL
> $cmd 050 $skip tcp from any to any 443 out via $pif setup keep-state
> 
> # Allow out send & get email function
> $cmd 060 $skip tcp from any to any 25 out via $pif setup 
> keep-state $cmd 061 $skip tcp from any to any 110 out via 
> $pif setup keep-state
> 
> # Allow out FBSD (make install & CVSUP) functions
> # Basically give user root "GOD" privileges.
> $cmd 070 $skip tcp from me to any out via $pif setup 
> keep-state uid root
> 
> # Allow out ping
> $cmd 080 $skip icmp from any to any out via $pif keep-state
> 
> # Allow out Time
> $cmd 090 $skip tcp from any to any 37 out via $pif setup keep-state
> 
> # Allow out nntp news (IE: news groups)
> $cmd 100 $skip tcp from any to any 119 out via $pif setup keep-state
> 
> # Allow out secure FTP, Telnet, and SCP
> # This function is using SSH (secure shell)
> $cmd 110 $skip tcp from any to any 22 out via $pif setup keep-state
> 
> # Allow out whois
> $cmd 120 $skip tcp from any to any 43 out via $pif setup keep-state
> 
> # Allow ntp time server
> $cmd 130 $skip udp from any to any 123 out via $pif keep-state
> 
> #################################################################
> # Interface facing Public internet (Inbound Section)
> # Interrogate packets originating from the public internet
> # destine for this gateway server or the private network. 
> #################################################################
> 
> # Deny all inbound traffic from non-routable reserved address 
> spaces $cmd 300 deny all from 192.168.0.0/16  to any in via 
> $pif  #RFC 1918 private IP
> $cmd 301 deny all from 172.16.0.0/12   to any in via $pif  #RFC 1918
> private
> IP
> $cmd 302 deny all from 10.0.0.0/8      to any in via $pif  #RFC 1918
> private
> IP
> $cmd 303 deny all from 127.0.0.0/8     to any in via $pif  #loopback
> $cmd 304 deny all from 0.0.0.0/8       to any in via $pif  #loopback
> $cmd 305 deny all from 169.254.0.0/16  to any in via $pif  
> #DHCP auto-config
> $cmd 306 deny all from 192.0.2.0/24    to any in via $pif  #reserved
> for
> doc's
> $cmd 307 deny all from 204.152.64.0/23 to any in via $pif  
> #Sun cluster
> $cmd 308 deny all from 224.0.0.0/3     to any in via $pif  #Class D
> & E
> multicast
> 
> # Deny ident
> $cmd 315 deny tcp from any to any 113 in via $pif
> 
> # Deny all Netbios service. 137=name, 138=datagram, 
> 139=session # Netbios is MS/Windows sharing services. # Block 
> MS/Windows hosts2 name server requests 81 $cmd 320 deny tcp 
> from any to any 137 in via $pif $cmd 321 deny tcp from any to 
> any 138 in via $pif $cmd 322 deny tcp from any to any 139 in 
> via $pif $cmd 323 deny tcp from any to any 81  in via $pif
> 
> # Deny any late arriving packets
> $cmd 330 deny all from any to any frag in via $pif
> 
> # Deny ACK packets that did not match the dynamic rule table 
> $cmd 332 deny tcp from any to any established in via $pif
> 
> # Allow traffic in from ISP's DHCP server. This rule must 
> contain # the IP address of your ISP's DHCP server as it's 
> the only # authorized source to send this packet type. # Only 
> necessary for cable or DSL configurations. # This rule is not 
> needed for 'user ppp' type connection to # the public 
> internet. This is the same IP address you captured # and used 
> in the outbound section. $cmd 360 allow udp from 172.19.17.22 
> to any 68 in via $pif keep-state
> 
> # Allow in standard www function because I have apache server 
> $cmd 370 allow tcp from any to me 80 in via $pif setup limit 
> src-addr 2 $cmd 370 allow tcp from any to me 8888 in via $pif 
> setup limit src-addr 2
> 
> # Allow in secure FTP, Telnet, and SCP from public Internet 
> $cmd 380 allow tcp from any to me 22 in via $pif setup limit 
> src-addr 2
> 
> # Allow in non-secure Telnet session from public Internet
> # labeled non-secure because ID & PW are passed over public
> # internet as clear text.
> # Delete this sample group if you do not have telnet server 
> enabled. # $cmd 390 allow tcp from any to me 23 in via $pif 
> setup limit src-addr 2
> 
> # Reject & Log all unauthorized incoming connections from the 
> public internet $cmd 500 deny log all from any to any in via $pif
> 
> # Reject & Log all unauthorized out going connections to the 
> public internet
> 
> $cmd 550 deny log all from any to any out via $pif
> 
> # This is skipto location for outbound stateful rules
> $cmd 800 divert natd ip from any to any out via $pif
> $cmd 801 allow ip from any to any
> 
> # Everything else is denied by default
> # deny and log all packets that fell through to see what they 
> are $cmd 999 deny log all from any to any
> 
> 
> ################ End of IPFW rules file 
> ###############################
> 
> Here's all of today's security ouput:
> 
> Jul 31 07:50:36 sara /kernel: ipfw: 550 Deny UDP 
> 68.105.58.150:1649 193.0.14.129:53 out via dc1 Jul 31 
> 07:50:37 sara /kernel: ipfw: 550 Deny UDP 68.105.58.150:2671 
> 68.105.161.20:53 out via dc1 Jul 31 07:50:37 sara /kernel: 
> ipfw: 550 Deny UDP 68.105.58.150:1042 68.1.18.25:53 out via 
> dc1 Jul 31 07:50:37 sara /kernel: ipfw: 550 Deny UDP 
> 68.105.58.150:4365 68.10.16.30:53 out via dc1 Jul 31 07:50:37 
> sara /kernel: ipfw: 550 Deny UDP 68.105.58.150:2365 
> 68.105.161.20:53 out via dc1 Jul 31 07:50:37 sara /kernel: 
> ipfw: 550 Deny UDP 68.105.58.150:4325 68.1.18.25:53 out via 
> dc1 Jul 31 07:50:37 sara /kernel: ipfw: 550 Deny UDP 
> 68.105.58.150:3378 68.10.16.30:53 out via dc1 Jul 31 07:50:37 
> sara /kernel: ipfw: 550 Deny UDP 68.105.58.150:2952 
> 68.105.161.20:53 out via dc1 Jul 31 07:50:37 sara /kernel: 
> ipfw: 550 Deny UDP 68.105.58.150:1359 68.1.18.25:53 out via 
> dc1 Jul 31 07:50:37 sara /kernel: ipfw: 550 Deny UDP 
> 68.105.58.150:4738 68.10.16.30:53 out via dc1 Jul 31 07:50:37 
> sara /kernel: ipfw: limit 10 reached on entry 550 Jul 31 
> 07:51:42 sara /kernel: ipfw: 500 Deny TCP 81.56.103.50:3860 
> 68.105.58.150:21 in via dc1 Jul 31 07:51:51 sara last message 
> repeated 2 times Jul 31 07:53:15 sara /kernel: ipfw: 500 Deny 
> TCP 81.56.103.50:3875 68.105.58.150:21 in via dc1 Jul 31 
> 07:53:24 sara last message repeated 2 times Jul 31 07:53:32 
> sara /kernel: ipfw: 500 Deny TCP 81.56.103.50:3878 
> 68.105.58.150:21 in via dc1 Jul 31 07:53:41 sara last message 
> repeated 2 times Jul 31 07:53:44 sara /kernel: ipfw: 500 Deny 
> TCP 81.56.103.50:3881 68.105.58.150:21 in via dc1 Jul 31 
> 07:53:44 sara /kernel: ipfw: limit 10 reached on entry 500 
> Jul 31 08:13:35 sara /kernel: ipfw: 65000 Deny UDP 
> 68.1.18.25:53 192.168.1.102:3232 in via dc1 Jul 31 08:13:35 
> sara /kernel: ipfw: 65000 Deny UDP 68.105.161.20:53 
> 192.168.1.102:3232 in via dc1 Jul 31 08:14:33 sara /kernel: 
> ipfw: 65000 Deny UDP 10.2.184.1:67 255.255.255.255:68 in via 
> dc1 Jul 31 08:15:28 sara last message repeated 2 times Jul 31 
> 08:15:47 sara last message repeated 5 times Jul 31 08:15:47 
> sara /kernel: ipfw: limit 10 reached on entry 65000 Jul 31 
> 08:31:20 sara /kernel: ipfw: 550 Deny UDP 68.105.58.150:3534 
> 198.41.0.4:53 out via dc1 Jul 31 08:31:21 sara /kernel: ipfw: 
> 550 Deny UDP 68.105.58.150:3178 68.105.161.20:53 out via dc1 
> Jul 31 08:31:21 sara /kernel: ipfw: 550 Deny UDP 
> 68.105.58.150:4476 68.1.18.25:53 out via dc1 Jul 31 08:31:21 
> sara /kernel: ipfw: 550 Deny UDP 68.105.58.150:4747 
> 68.10.16.30:53 out via dc1 Jul 31 08:31:21 sara /kernel: 
> ipfw: 550 Deny UDP 68.105.58.150:4952 68.105.161.20:53 out 
> via dc1 Jul 31 08:31:21 sara /kernel: ipfw: 550 Deny UDP 
> 68.105.58.150:2260 68.1.18.25:53 out via dc1 Jul 31 08:31:21 
> sara /kernel: ipfw: 550 Deny UDP 68.105.58.150:4087 
> 68.10.16.30:53 out via dc1 Jul 31 08:31:21 sara /kernel: 
> ipfw: 550 Deny UDP 68.105.58.150:4914 68.105.161.20:53 out 
> via dc1 Jul 31 08:31:21 sara /kernel: ipfw: 550 Deny UDP 
> 68.105.58.150:1849 68.1.18.25:53 out via dc1 Jul 31 08:31:21 
> sara /kernel: ipfw: 550 Deny UDP 68.105.58.150:2220 
> 68.10.16.30:53 out via dc1 Jul 31 08:31:21 sara /kernel: 
> ipfw: limit 10 reached on entry 550
> 
> Here's rc.conf again:
> 
> # -- sysinstall generated deltas --
> # Sun Jul  4 10:40:48 2004
> # Created: Sun Jul  4 10:40:48 2004
> # Enable network daemons for user convenience.
> # Please make all changes to this file, not to 
> /etc/defaults/rc.conf. # This file now contains just the 
> overrides from /etc/defaults/rc.conf. 
> hostname="sara.mshome.net" ifconfig_dc1="DHCP" 
> ifconfig_dc0="inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" 
> firewall_enable="YES" firewall_script="/etc/ipfw.rules" 
> firewall_logging="YES" kern_securelevel_enable="NO" 
> linux_enable="YES" moused_enable="YES" named_enable="YES" 
> nfs_client_enable="YES" nfs_reserved_port_only="YES" 
> nfs_server_enable="YES" sendmail_enable="YES" 
> sshd_enable="YES" usbd_enable="YES" ntpd_enable="YES" 
> inetd_enable="YES" gateway_enable="YES" natd_enable="YES" 
> natd_interface="dc1" natd_flags="-dynamic"
> 
> Here's dmesg.boot:
> 
> Copyright (c) 1992-2004 The FreeBSD Project.
> Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 
> 1993, 1994
>         The Regents of the University of California. All 
> rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.10-RELEASE #8: Fri Jul 30 07:19:43 CDT 2004
>     jcoulter@sara.mshome.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SARA
> Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
> CPU: Intel Celeron (634.78-MHz 686-class CPU)
>   Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x686  Stepping = 6
> 
> Features=0x383f9ff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,M
> CA,CMOV,
> PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE>
> real memory  = 134201344 (131056K bytes)
> avail memory = 127057920 (124080K bytes)
> Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0381000.
> Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled
> md0: Malloc disk
> Using $PIR table, 8 entries at 0xc00f0e80
> npx0: <math processor> on motherboard
> npx0: INT 16 interface
> pcib0: <Intel 82443BX (440 BX) host to PCI bridge> on motherboard
> pci0: <PCI bus> on pcib0
> agp0: <Intel 82443BX (440 BX) host to PCI bridge> mem 
> 0xe4000000-0xe7ffffff at device 0.0 on pci0
> pcib1: <Intel 82443BX (440 BX) PCI-PCI (AGP) bridge> at 
> device 1.0 on pci0
> pci1: <PCI bus> on pcib1
> pci1: <ATI Mach64-GB graphics accelerator> at 0.0 irq 11
> isab0: <Intel 82371AB PCI to ISA bridge> at device 4.0 on pci0
> isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0
> atapci0: <Intel PIIX4 ATA33 controller> port 0xb800-0xb80f at 
> device 4.1 on pci0
> ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
> ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0
> uhci0: <Intel 82371AB/EB (PIIX4) USB controller> port 
> 0xb400-0xb41f irq 9 at device 4.2 on pci0
> usb0: <Intel 82371AB/EB (PIIX4) USB controller> on uhci0
> usb0: USB revision 1.0
> uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
> uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
> chip0: <Intel 82371AB Power management controller> port 
> 0xe800-0xe80f at device 4.3 on pci0
> dc0: <ADMtek AN985 10/100BaseTX> port 0xb000-0xb0ff mem 
> 0xe1000000-0xe10003ff irq 12 at device 10.0 on pci0
> dc0: Ethernet address: 00:04:5a:76:55:f0
> miibus0: <MII bus> on dc0
> ukphy0: <Generic IEEE 802.3u media interface> on miibus0
> ukphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
> dc1: <LC82C115 PNIC II 10/100BaseTX> port 0xa800-0xa8ff mem 
> 0xe0800000-0xe08000ff irq 10 at device 11.0 on pci0
> dc1: Ethernet address: 00:a0:cc:33:e1:f6
> miibus1: <MII bus> on dc1
> dcphy0: <Intel 21143 NWAY media interface> on miibus1
> dcphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
> isa0: too many dependant configs (8)
> isa0: unexpected small tag 14
> orm0: <Option ROM> at iomem 0xc0000-0xc7fff on isa0
> pmtimer0 on isa0
> fdc0: <NEC 72065B or clone> at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 
> drq 2 on isa0
> fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
> fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0
> atkbdc0: <Keyboard controller (i8042)> at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0
> atkbd0: <AT Keyboard> flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0
> kbd0 at atkbd0
> vga0: <Generic ISA VGA> at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 
> 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0
> sc0: <System console> at flags 0x100 on isa0
> sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300>
> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
> sio0: type 16550A
> sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0
> sio1: type 16550A
> ppc0: <Parallel port> at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0
> ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
> ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/9 bytes threshold
> plip0: <PLIP network interface> on ppbus0
> lpt0: <Printer> on ppbus0
> lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
> ppi0: <Parallel I/O> on ppbus0
> IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based 
> forwarding enabled, default to deny, logging limited to 10 
> packets/entry by default
> ad0: DMA limited to UDMA33, non-ATA66 cable or device
> ad0: 19623MB <IBM-DTLA-305020> [39870/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA33
> acd0: CDROM <SONY CD-ROM CDU4821> at ata0-slave PIO4
> Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jim C.
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: JJB [mailto:Barbish3@adelphia.net]
> > Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2004 10:28 AM
> > To: James A. Coulter; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > Subject: RE: Firewall Rule Set not allowing access to DNS servers?
> >
> >
> > You better re-read what you posted in early post. You 
> posted that dc1 
> > is your outside NIC, which is connected to your cable modem 
> which is 
> > connected to your ISP. Your outside NIC needs DHCP to get 
> ip and dns 
> > info from your ISP. NOW YOU SAY dc1 IS INSIDE INTERFACE 
> NAME.  Make up 
> > your mind which is correct.
> >
> > Verify you have correct  interface name coded in ipfw rules for NIC 
> > connected to cable modem and that the same NIC interface 
> name is the 
> > one in rc.conf with DHCP option. When DHCP gets DNS info from ISP 
> > /etc/resolv.conf will auto updated with correct info. Read 
> comments in 
> > sample firewall source and follow what comments say.  You 
> are making 
> > this harder than it really is.
> >
> > Also there is no setup option on UDP packets just keepstate
> >
> > Post full contents of your current dmesg.boot, rc.conf,  ipfw rule 
> > set, and ipfw log files so people can see just want you have 
> > configured.  And answer question of how you are assigning 
> ip address 
> > to LAN PCs? Also post output of ifconfig -a command after boot 
> > completes.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of James A. 
> > Coulter
> > Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2004 9:55 AM
> > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > Cc: Barbish3@adelphia.net
> > Subject: RE: Firewall Rule Set not allowing access to DNS servers?
> >
> > Thanks for the response. . .
> >
> > I changed rule 00005 from x10 to dc0 - thanks
> >
> > Not sure why I would want my inside nic requesting DHCP 
> service from 
> > my ISP. It has been working fine in the configuration I have it so 
> > I've left it the way it is.
> >
> > I checked the security log, and found this:
> >
> > Jul 30 08:58:37 sara /kernel: ipfw: 450 Deny UDP 68.105.58.150:2609 
> > 68.105.161.20:53 out via dc1 Jul 30 08:58:37 sara /kernel: 
> ipfw: 450 
> > Deny UDP 68.105.58.150:4067 68.1.18.25:53 out via dc1 Jul 
> 30 08:58:37 
> > sara /kernel: ipfw: 450 Deny UDP 68.105.58.150:3773 
> 68.10.16.30:53 out 
> > via dc1
> >
> > These are the three name servers specified in the rule set
> >
> > I checked the rule set and found this:
> >
> > # Allow out access to my ISP's Domain name server.
> > # x.x.x.x must be the IP address of your ISP's DNS
> > # Dup these lines if your ISP has more than one DNS server
> > # Get the IP addresses from /etc/resolv.conf file
> > $cmd 020 $skip tcp from any to 68.105.161.20 53 out via $pif setup 
> > keep-state $cmd 021 $skip tcp from any to 68.1.18.25 53 out 
> via $pif 
> > setup keep-state $cmd 022 $skip tcp from any to 68.10.16.30 
> 53 out via 
> > $pif setup keep-state
> >
> > Because security said the firewall was denying UDP packets, 
> I changed 
> > the rules to this:
> >
> > $cmd 020 $skip udp from any to 68.105.161.20 53 out via $pif setup 
> > keep-state $cmd 021 $skip udp from any to 68.1.18.25 53 out 
> via $pif 
> > setup keep-state $cmd 022 $skip udp from any to 68.10.16.30 
> 53 out via 
> > $pif setup keep-state
> >
> > But that hasn't helped.  I'm still getting:
> >
> > Jul 31 08:31:21 sara /kernel: ipfw: 550 Deny UDP 68.105.58.150:3178 
> > 68.105.161.20:53 out via dc1 Jul 31 08:31:21 sara /kernel: 
> ipfw: 550 
> > Deny UDP 68.105.58.150:4476 68.1.18.25:53 out via dc1 Jul 
> 31 08:31:21 
> > sara /kernel: ipfw: 550 Deny UDP 68.105.58.150:4747 
> 68.10.16.30:53 out 
> > via dc1
> >
> > FWIW, these rules are skipping to:
> >
> > # This is skipto location for outbound stateful rules
> > $cmd 800 divert natd ip from any to any out via $pif
> > $cmd 801 allow ip from any to any
> >
> > I apologize for being such a bother and I do appreciate any help or 
> > suggestions.
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > Jim C.
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of JJB
> > > Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 1:20 PM
> > > To: James A. Coulter; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > > Subject: RE: Firewall Rule Set not allowing access to DNS
> servers?
> > >
> > >
> > > Change this ipfw rule from
> > >
> > > 00005   allow ip from any to any via xl0
> > >
> > > To
> > > 00005   allow ip from any to any via dc0
> > >
> > > because dc0 is the lan interface name and not xl0.
> > >
> > >
> > > Change these statement in rc.conf because you have interface
> name
> > > backwards. Dc1 is the NIC connected to your cable modem and
> > you want
> > > to get DHCP info from your ISP. Dc0 is the NIC connected to
> > your LAN.
> > >
> > > From
> > > ifconfig_dc1="DHCP"
> > > ifconfig_dc0="inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0"
> > >
> > > to
> > > ifconfig_dc0="DHCP"
> > > ifconfig_dc1="inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0"
> > >
> > >
> > > You do not say how your LAN PCs get their ip address.
> > > You can hard code them on each LAN PC
> > > or you have to run isc-dhcp-server on your Gateway box to
> > auto assign
> > > ip address to LAN PCs.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of James
> A.
> > > Coulter
> > > Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 10:56 AM
> > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > > Subject: Firewall Rule Set not allowing access to DNS servers?
> > >
> > > I am using FreeBSD 4.10 as a gateway/router for a small
> > home LAN. My
> > > outside interface (dc1) is connected to a cable modem and is 
> > > configured for DHCP.
> > >
> > > I have compiled and installed a custome kernel with IPFIREWALL
> and
> > > IPDIVERT options and with a rule set allowing any to any with no 
> > > problems
> > >
> > > I am in the process of adding a proper rule set to provide
> > security. I
> > > was referred to
> > http://freebsd.a1poweruser.com:6088/FBSD_firewall/ and
> > > installed the Stateful + NATD Rule Set modified for my outside 
> > > interface, domain name servers, and DHCP server.
> > >
> > > I can ping IP addresses and pass SMTP mail back and forth from
> the
> > > gateway/router and all machines on the LAN, but I cannot
> > ping URLs - I
> > > am getting "ping: cannot resolve
> > > www.freebsd.org: Host name lookup failure" errors.
> > >
> > >
> > > This is what ipfw -a list looks like:
> > >
> > > sara# ipfw -a list
> > > 00005   0     0 allow ip from any to any via xl0
> > > 00010  52  3640 allow ip from any to any via lo0
> > > 00014   0     0 divert 8668 ip from any to any in recv dc1
> > > 00015   0     0 check-state
> > > 00020   0     0 skipto 800 tcp from any to 68.105.161.20 53
> > > keep-state out
> > > xmit dc1 setup
> > > 00021   0     0 skipto 800 tcp from any to 68.1.18.25 53
> > keep-state
> > > out xmit
> > > dc1 setup
> > > 00022   0     0 skipto 800 tcp from any to 68.10.16.30 53
> > keep-state
> > > out
> > > xmit dc1 setup
> > > 00030   0     0 skipto 800 udp from any to 172.19.17.22 67
> > > keep-state out
> > > xmit dc1
> > > 00040   0     0 skipto 800 tcp from any to any 80 keep-state out
> > > xmit dc1
> > > setup
> > > 00050   0     0 skipto 800 tcp from any to any 443 keep-state
> out
> > > xmit dc1
> > > setup
> > > 00060   0     0 skipto 800 tcp from any to any 25 keep-state out
> > > xmit dc1
> > > setup
> > > 00061   0     0 skipto 800 tcp from any to any 110 keep-state
> out
> > > xmit dc1
> > > setup
> > > 00070   0     0 skipto 800 tcp from me to any uid root
> keep-state
> > > out xmit
> > > dc1 setup
> > > 00080   0     0 skipto 800 icmp from any to any keep-state out
> > xmit
> > > dc1
> > > 00090   0     0 skipto 800 tcp from any to any 37 keep-state out
> > > xmit dc1
> > > setup
> > > 00100   0     0 skipto 800 tcp from any to any 119 keep-state
> out
> > > xmit dc1
> > > setup
> > > 00110   0     0 skipto 800 tcp from any to any 22 keep-state out
> > > xmit dc1
> > > setup
> > > 00120   0     0 skipto 800 tcp from any to any 43 keep-state out
> > > xmit dc1
> > > setup
> > > 00130   0     0 skipto 800 udp from any to any 123 keep-state
> out
> > > xmit dc1
> > > 00300   0     0 deny ip from 192.168.0.0/16 to any in recv dc1
> > > 00301   0     0 deny ip from 172.16.0.0/12 to any in recv dc1
> > > 00302   0     0 deny ip from 10.0.0.0/8 to any in recv dc1
> > > 00303   0     0 deny ip from 127.0.0.0/8 to any in recv dc1
> > > 00304   0     0 deny ip from 0.0.0.0/8 to any in recv dc1
> > > 00305   0     0 deny ip from 169.254.0.0/16 to any in recv dc1
> > > 00306   0     0 deny ip from 192.0.2.0/24 to any in recv dc1
> > > 00307   0     0 deny ip from 204.152.64.0/23 to any in recv dc1
> > > 00308   0     0 deny ip from 224.0.0.0/3 to any in recv dc1
> > > 00315   0     0 deny tcp from any to any 113 in recv dc1
> > > 00320   0     0 deny tcp from any to any 137 in recv dc1
> > > 00321   0     0 deny tcp from any to any 138 in recv dc1
> > > 00322   0     0 deny tcp from any to any 139 in recv dc1
> > > 00323   0     0 deny tcp from any to any 81 in recv dc1
> > > 00330   0     0 deny ip from any to any in recv dc1 frag
> > > 00332   0     0 deny tcp from any to any in recv dc1 established
> > > 00360   0     0 allow udp from 172.19.17.22 to any 68 keep-state
> > in
> > > recv dc1
> > > 00370   0     0 allow tcp from any to me 80 limit src-addr 2 in
> > recv
> > > dc1
> > > setup
> > > 00370   0     0 allow tcp from any to me 8888 limit src-addr 2
> in
> > > recv dc1
> > > setup
> > > 00380   0     0 allow tcp from any to me 22 limit src-addr 2 in
> > recv
> > > dc1
> > > setup
> > > 00400   0     0 deny log logamount 10 ip from any to any in recv
> > dc1
> > > 00450  81  5288 deny log logamount 10 ip from any to any out
> xmit
> > dc1
> > > 00800   0     0 divert 8668 ip from any to any out xmit dc1
> > > 00801 645 59255 allow ip from any to any
> > > 00999   0     0 deny log logamount 10 ip from any to any
> > > 65535   1   347 deny ip from any to any
> > > This is what my /etc/rc.conf looks like:
> > >
> > > hostname="sara.mshome.net"
> > > ifconfig_dc1="DHCP"
> > > ifconfig_dc0="inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" 
> > > firewall_enable="YES" firewall_script="/etc/ipfw.rules" 
> > > firewall_logging="YES" kern_securelevel_enable="NO"
> > linux_enable="YES"
> > > moused_enable="YES" named_enable="YES" nfs_client_enable="YES" 
> > > nfs_reserved_port_only="YES" nfs_server_enable="YES" 
> > > sendmail_enable="YES" sshd_enable="YES" usbd_enable="YES" 
> > > ntpd_enable="YES" inetd_enable="YES" gateway_enable="YES" 
> > > natd_enable="YES" natd_interface="dc1" natd_flags="-dynamic"
> > >
> > > Finally, this is what /etc/resolv.conf looks like:
> > >
> > > sara# more /etc/resolv.conf
> > > search pn.at.cox.net
> > > nameserver 68.105.161.20
> > > nameserver 68.1.18.25
> > > nameserver 68.10.16.30
> > >
> > > Any ideas?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Jim C.
> > >
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sylvia bowman wrote:
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Very crreeeeeepy

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3BSD wrote:
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You're probably bang on there but man I just couldn't resist...

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On Sunday 01 August 2004 04:48 am, DK <asdzxc111@yahoo.com> wrote:

<snip>

I'm not sure about your automount and Apache problems, but I can help with the 
others ...

> 1) Trying to search for a file I get the error:
>
> 127# locate mysql
> locate: database too small: /var/db/locate.database

This is because the locate db is built from a weekly cron job, which probably 
hasn't run yet on your new install. You can run this manually if you want:
# sh /usr/src/etc/periodic/weekly/310.locate

> 2) I deleted the installed package xfce4, then added it again but xfce4
> still won't start. Is the warnings(about versions) given when I add the
> package(below) a cause of why it won't start ???
>
> 127# pkg_add xfce4-wm-4.0.5.tgz
> pkg_add: warning: package 'xfce4-wm-4.0.5' requires 'jpeg-6b_3', but
> 'jpeg-6b_2' is installed

<snip>

You need to upgrade the dependencies, as the ones you have are out of date. 
AFAIK pkg_add is supposed to take care of dependencies, but I almost never 
use it, prefering to build from source using the ports collection: 
# cd /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4 && make install clean

However, if you still want to use packages instead of source, I'm pretty sure 
if you use the -r flag with pkg_add it will auto-fetch-and-install the 
dependencies you need, as -r signifies to fetch the package remotely - i.e., 
pkg_add -r xfce4 (I just tried this with another package, and it installed 
the dependencies for it).

- jt

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On Sunday 01 August 2004 06:32 am, Joshua Tinnin <krinklyfig@spymac.com> 
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> On Sunday 01 August 2004 04:48 am, DK <asdzxc111@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> I'm not sure about your automount and Apache problems, but I can help with
> the others ...
>
> > 1) Trying to search for a file I get the error:
> >
> > 127# locate mysql
> > locate: database too small: /var/db/locate.database
>
> This is because the locate db is built from a weekly cron job, which
> probably hasn't run yet on your new install. You can run this manually if
> you want: # sh /usr/src/etc/periodic/weekly/310.locate

Whoops! Sorry, that points to the source and won't work. You should do this 
instead:

# sh /etc/periodic/weekly/310.locate

- jt

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On 07/31/04 07:56 AM, Joshua Tinnin sat at the `puter and typed:
> On Saturday 31 July 2004 06:49 am, Louis LeBlanc <FreeBSD@keyslapper.org> 
> wrote:
> > Hey all.  I'm finishing up my RELENG_5_2 box, hoping to swap it in
> > tomorrow, and I'm a little confused.
> >
> > Mozilla 1.7 seems to build just fine in 4.10, but claims to be broken
> > in 5.2.  It seems to have a problem with Calendar support.
> >
> > While poking through the ports directory, I noticed that there are 2
> > index files (INDEX and INDEX-5).  Now I haven't really researched this
> > yet, so feel free to point out the FM if that's discussed somewhere.
> >
> > My question though, is whether anyone has managed to get Mozilla
> > building without hacking up the Makefile (which still only gives the
> > Mozilla browser, nothing else).
> 
> I'm running 5.2.1 and built Mozilla 1.7.1 very recently. It built and works 
> fine, and I didn't mess with the Makefile, but I don't use the calendar in 
> Mozilla.

I've updated my ports, and I still get just the browser - but only if
I hack the Makefile.  I've taken all Mozilla configs out of my
make.conf too.

I get a config screen on 4.10, but not on 5.2.1.  Is there some
package that is required to display the config?

Lou
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Joshua Tinnin <krinklyfig@spymac.com> wrote:

> > 2) I deleted the installed package xfce4, then added it again but xfce4
> > still won't start. Is the warnings(about versions) given when I add the
> > package(below) a cause of why it won't start ???
> >
> > 127# pkg_add xfce4-wm-4.0.5.tgz
> > pkg_add: warning: package 'xfce4-wm-4.0.5' requires 'jpeg-6b_3', but
> > 'jpeg-6b_2' is installed
> 
> <snip>
> 
> You need to upgrade the dependencies, as the ones you have are out of date. 
> AFAIK pkg_add is supposed to take care of dependencies, but I almost never 
> use it, prefering to build from source using the ports collection: 
> # cd /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4 && make install clean
> 
> However, if you still want to use packages instead of source, I'm pretty sure 
> if you use the -r flag with pkg_add it will auto-fetch-and-install the 
> dependencies you need, as -r signifies to fetch the package remotely - i.e., 
> pkg_add -r xfce4 (I just tried this with another package, and it installed 
> the dependencies for it).

Look also at portupgrade, which can be used to upgrade jpeg-6b_2 to jpeg-6b_3.

It's a seperate package right now, but it'll probably be part of the base
system soon.

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DK <asdzxc111@yahoo.com> wrote:

> --- Bill Moran <wmoran@potentialtech.com> wrote:
> > > My bootup is fine, its the BSD+wmaker running & opening nedit & a cmd
> > > prompts
> > > that are slower than Windows 2000 ?? any suggestions as to why ??
> > My FreeBSD system, using Gnome (which is a system hog) is faster than when
> > Windows NT was installed ... and I _KNOW_ NT is faster than W2K.  So, if
> > you're honestly having speed problems, then something is wrong.
> > 
> > So, you need to do the proper steps to figure out what's wrong with your
> > system.  Have you pasted a dmesg?  My first guess would be that your
> > hardware is a little off, and Windows has drivers for it but FreeBSD
> > doesn't, thus you get expected performance on Windows, but crap on
> > FreeBSD.
> 
> Hi Bill,
> 
> Apologies if I come across as trolling. I guess I had too high an expectation
> as to what I expected FBSD to be able to do. I will refrain from doing
> comparisons with Windows as that seems to just annoy people.

It's not comparisons to Windows that piss people off, it's coming on to
the list with statements like "What the fuck is wrong that FreeBSD sucks
so much compared to Windows" that piss off people who have put a ton of
their time into FreeBSD.

If you seriously want to help a _volunteer_ project, it's best to take
a tone of "I'm seeing X, how can I help improve it"

If you just want someone to fix it for you, you can still use FreeBSD.
Consider sponsoring a developer to tackle your problem.  Donations
through the FreeBSD Foundation are usually tax-deductable.  Last I checked,
no money you sent to Microsoft was tax-deductable.

> As for dmesg, I will run that tonight & post that. I assume I type: dmesg -a

Just "dmesg" will do ... cut/paste into an email.

Also, when you say "slower" you need to be more specific.  How long does
it take?  What part of using the app is slow?

> > Also, are you saying that you run nedit on both Windows and FreeBSD and it's
> > faster on Windows?  Or are you comparing nedit to an apple?
> 
> I run Nedit on FBSD & Emeditor on Windows which is much more GUI color
> intensive & has many more functions than Nedit. Again, EmEditor on Windows
> loads & runs "much faster" then Nedit on FBSD. As you said, it may be that
> FBSD
> has defaulted hardware for my box that is incorrect.

Only thing I can say here is that you're comparing Apples to Oranges.
Never having used EmEditor, I can't say whether it's got more features
than nedit or not, but it's still apples to oranges.  Run EmEditor on
FreeBSD and see how it compares.

> > Also, have you monitored various system "stuff"?  Run top, systat, etc
> > while starting the programs in an attempt to isolate the bottleneck.
> 
> If there is any other particular diagnostic programs on FBSD that you want me
> to run & post the details that may help identify my slow performance please
> let
> me know ??
> 
> I haven't run top or systat, but I will run them tonight.

You need to run/monitor those programs _while_ you are doing the things
that seem slow to you.  They will tell you where the holdup is.

Also, make sure your networking is configured properly.  FreeBSD will be
slow if it's trying to do (for example) DNS lookup and DNS is slow or
improperly configured.  You'd be surprised how many programs try to do
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DK <asdzxc111@yahoo.com> wrote:

> --- Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr> wrote:
> > > My bootup is fine, its the BSD+wmaker running & opening nedit & a cmd
> > > prompts that are slower than Windows 2000 ?? any suggestions as to why ??
> > 
> > You're probably using X11 with a "vesa" driver or something that doesn't
> > take advantage of all the accelerations that your hardware can provide.
> 
> Hi Giorgos,
> 
> Where do I look to see which driver X11 is using ???
> 
> And if it is using a "vesa" driver, how do I change that to a driver that is
> specific to my hardware: ie. 16MB Creative Graphics Blaster Riva TNT  ???

check /etc/X11/XF86Config ... that's where the config for XFree is.

To change it, you can either re-run one of the XFree cofiguration
programs, or manually edit that file.  xf86config is one such program.
You can also run "X -xf86config <filename>" to have XFree automagically
create a config file based on what it probes, but if it's incorrectly
detecting your hardware, that could be the problem you're having now.

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The way I typically do it is install MySQL from the ports tree, then
install PHP from the ports tree.  While installing PHP,  it will ask
what options you want to compile into it.  Just check to make sure you
tell it MySQL and you'll be all set.

--Brian

On Sun, 1 Aug 2004 00:48:32 -0400, Bob Kukla <rfkukla@earthlink.net> wrote:
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> 
> I am very new to BSD and web servers and have just recently installed the latest 5.2 version. I have installed Apache 1.3 from the FreeBSD ftp site and have added mod_dav successfully.  The web server and webDAV are working fine. I now want to add php4 and mySQL capabilities. I have read some of the latest mail and am confused as to how to best go about it.  I have never used php or mySQL before nor have I had it installed on a web server. What packages and in what sequence , if any, should I install ?  Also,  what does the number 20020429 at the end (/usr/local/lib/php/20020429 )  signify?  Thanks in advance for your help!
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On Sun, 2004-08-01 at 04:08, adp wrote: 
> FreeBSD 4.4, 4.7, 4.9, 4.10
> MySQL 3.x and 4.x
> Typical load: 50 qps
> With and without replication enabled.
> Some sites are SELECT heavy, some are INSERT heavy.
> 
> For one site I think we will be moving from FreeBSD to Linux for the MySQL
> servers since MySQL seems to run like a champ on Linux. We will continue to
> use FreeBSD for everything else.
> 
> Anyone experienced this problem? Is it mysqld or FreeBSD? I can't pinpoint
> the exact issue.

We've got MySQL running on several FreeBSD servers here, some doing 100
qps+, and have had no problems what so ever. We've been using MySQL 3
and 4 on FreeBSD since FreeBSD 4.5 upwards.

Here is an example status output from one of our servers:

# /usr/local/mysql/bin/mysqladmin -u root -p status
Enter password:
Uptime: 1271242  Threads: 8  Questions: 76203621  Slow queries: 370 
Opens: 2461857  Flush tables: 2  Open tables: 511  Queries per second
avg: 59.944


You haven't mentioned the source of your MySQL installs. Are you using
MySQL from ports, packages, or a binary or source distribution from the
MySQL website?

We compile MySQL from source using the following:

setenv CFLAGS "-O3 -mpentiumpro"
setenv CXX gcc
setenv CXXFLAGS "-O3 -mpentiumpro -felide-constructors -fno-exceptions
-fno-rtti -DEAPI"
./configure --prefix=/usr/local/mysql
--localstatedir=/usr/local/mysql/var
--with-unix-socket-path=/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock
--with-client-ldflags=-all-static --with-mysqld-ldflags=-all-static
--enable-assembler


You also haven't mentioned specifically what happens when there is a
problem.. You say the machine becomes unresponsive.. what happens if the
queries die down, does the box become responsive again?

The only thing I can think of causing this is if queries start to come
in faster than the box can process - they will build up and up until the
machine, as you say, becomes unresponsive. This would indicate some form
of bottleneck somewhere.

Monitoring the output of "systat -vmstat" might give some clues as to
whats going on.

I would certainly investigate the cause of this before abandoning
FreeBSD. Any threads on google relating to FreeBSD and MySQL not working
together are vastly inaccurate or out of date.

There are some performance issues with MySQL on FreeBSD 4 with regards
to threading. Try using MySQL linked against LinuxThreads, which should
give a performance boost. You can specify -DWITH_LINUXTHREADS when
installing from ports.

We have a test box running FreeBSD 5.2.1 with MySQL 4, linked against
the new kse threading library, which should in theory provide
performance comparable/superior to MySQL on a linux box. This box has
been completely stable - no MySQL or FreeBSD lockups or crashes.

Given that 5.3 and -STABLE are due out soon, it might be worth waiting
for those, rather than switching to Linux.

However we, and many many other people, run high load MySQL
installations on FreeBSD without problem, so I would say your problems
are specific to your setup, and not something that is a widespread
issue.

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> > with the apps i use etc etc but i have a question, to test the GL out of
> > my nvidia card *which is perfect actually* i tried quake3, the only
> > problem i have is, my mouse doesn't seem to want to work it wont grab
> > it, its a silly question i know, i have search google but havn't found
> > anything relating
> > Thanks everyone
> 
> Perhaps you should start Quake3 from the command line to see if it spits out 
> any errors regarding your mouse. I played UT2003 on FreeBSD as well, and that 
> worked just fine with the mouse.
> 
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Currently i have to as im using pekwm and i cant get gnome to compile,
fails on fam. Anyway i'll keep searching for a fix, strange all the same
thou, the mouse buttons work just cant move the mouse :?

Thanks for the advice, the reason i swapped over to -CURRENT was i
couldn't use the nvidia driver with xorg on 5.2.1, the whole system used
to freeze and restart, since using current it has been fine, im not
recompiling my tree all the time thou as its stable atm and i want to
keep it that way :)
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DK wrote:

>Floppy & CD mount OK now, however even though the floppy mounts OK, when I
>mount the floppy, I get:
>
>127# mount -v -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt
>/dev/fd0 on /mnt (msdos, local, reads: sync 2 async 0)
>
>floppy: mount -v -t msdos /dev/fd0c /mnt
>CDROM: mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0c /cdrom
>
>
>However, I can't seem to unmount them. I get "Command not found".
>127# unmount /cdrom
>unmount: Command not found.
>  
>
Greetings!

The command to use is umount, not unmount.

umount /cdrom

Don't ask me why they left out the first 'n' there.

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On Sun, 1 Aug 2004, DK wrote:
> I edited rc.conf & added the line: amd_enable="YES"
> However, my devices(Floppy & CDROM) are not automounting after logging in or
> starting X  ???
>
> In the process view of BSD, I have amd as waiting
>
> Trying to understand man amd isn't helping. Any ideas ???

I currently automount 2 CD's, my floppy drive, a Zip drive, and an nfs 
export from another system, so I think I've got the basics figured out.
However, I use amd on a 4.9 system.  I think it's generally the same on 
5.x, but there may be differences.

Anyway, with that caveat, the best current resource that I know of for 
setting up automounting is

http://www.daemonnews.org/200202/automounting.html

There are a few more steps than just adding the rc.conf line.  You have to 
tell amd what filesystems / devices to mount, and where to mount them to.
These details go in the /etc/amd.conf and /etc/amd.map files, which you'll 
have to configure - see the amd.conf manpage for details on the former, 
and the URL above for details on the latter.

(Note that while the instructions at this URL work, they can in fact be 
improved upon with some experimentation.)

For more background on automounting with amd, these sites have been useful 
to me:

http://www.nber.org/amd.html

http://www.am-utils.org/


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> > with the apps i use etc etc but i have a question, to test the GL out of
> > my nvidia card *which is perfect actually* i tried quake3, the only
> > problem i have is, my mouse doesn't seem to want to work it wont grab
> > it, its a silly question i know, i have search google but havn't found
> > anything relating
> > Thanks everyone
> 
> Perhaps you should start Quake3 from the command line to see if it spits out 
> any errors regarding your mouse. I played UT2003 on FreeBSD as well, and that 
> worked just fine with the mouse.
> 
> Do note that CURRENT has the bleeding-edge kernel sources, which are often 
> considered as very instable. If you're not a developer, you will probably be 
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> 
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Just an update, i checked the logs i get
"Failed to detect XF86DGA mouse"
i have a feeling this is because im using xorg
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DK wrote:
 
> I edited rc.conf & added the line: amd_enable="YES"

> However, my devices(Floppy & CDROM) are not
> automounting after logging in or
> starting X  ???
> 
You can also edit /etc/fstab and then add whatever
device you want to automount at startup. Its already
self explanatory. Under the Options tab is where you
would specify if the device should be: ro->read only,
rw->readwrite. By default, all devices that are listed
there are automounted into their corresponding mount
point at startup. You will notice that your cdrom
contains "noauto" in options tab, so that it won't be
automounted at startup. Just erase that "noauto" thing
ok?? As I've said its all self explanatory, if you
find any more trouble with that, do a "man fstab"

BTW: automount requires something to mount, so if you
delete the "noauto" options of you cdrom, in
/etc/fstab, you should always put something inside
your cdrom... perhaps a cd... i guess.=)

> I have some other problems as well:
> 
> 1) Trying to search for a file I get the error:
> 
> 127# locate mysql
> locate: database too small: /var/db/locate.database

Try "find /usr/../anypathwilldo -name "anystring" -ls

> 2) I deleted the installed package xfce4, then added
> it again but xfce4 still
> won't start. Is the warnings(about versions) given

In some cases of installing through packages,
dependency version is an issue, in some cases, its
not. Why not try it on your self.. Collect the proper
version and then run it again. I've been through a lot
of this scenarios.

> trying to run it:

> 127# ./install. sh
> ./install.: Command not found.
> 127# ./install sh
> ./install: Command not found.
> 127# ./install 
> ./install: Command not found.
<--chomp-->


What the!??!<S>>#$....=) 
Sir... the script file is "install.sh" you should
run.. "sh install.sh" or "./install.sh". You should
not separate sh from install like what you did.

Two useful tips with regards to file and filenames in
Unix world.. 

1. They are CASE sensitive. You should type exactly as
it is written.
2. Extensions are just "decorations" unlike in Windows
where executables end in .exe
In Unix, it doesn't matter how its filename is
written.

I remember way back in March of this year, the first
time I ever installed FreeBSD in my pc, I was also
asking most of the questions you've been asking in
this list. I have even asked this very dumb question:
"Who Am I mailing to??" and received so much soul-
uplifting reponses, mostly from the names that have
been replying to you lately.. 

The moral of the story:
No question is the "most dumb" or the "most stupid" if
you will just ask it in also a "most polite"or "most
down-to-earth" manner.

I've been reading all of your "rants" lately and just
kept quiet because I know that those names that have
been replying to you where the kindest, most
experienced, most humble persons in this list. I just
couldn't imagine how did they ever ran out of their
patience and have treated you such a "troll".=)

Goodluck sir!!


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On Sun, Aug 01, 2004 at 06:32:57AM -0700, Joshua Tinnin wrote:

> However, if you still want to use packages instead of source, I'm pretty =
sure=20
> if you use the -r flag with pkg_add it will auto-fetch-and-install the=20
> dependencies you need, as -r signifies to fetch the package remotely - i.=
e.,=20
> pkg_add -r xfce4 (I just tried this with another package, and it installe=
d=20
> the dependencies for it).

pkg_add -r will install any dependencies that are missing, but it
won't upgrade any earlier versions of dependencies it finds already
installed.

For that, use 'portupgrade -PPNa' (which, despite the program name,
only operated on packages with that combination of flags) -- but make
sure you download a freshly build /usr/ports/INDEX file, or
portupgrade won't know what the latest versions of things are.  Of
course, you'll have to 'pkg_add -r portupgrade' to install portupgrade
the first time.

	Cheers,

	Matthew

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On Sun, Aug 01, 2004 at 04:36:57PM -0700, Henrik W Lund wrote:

> The command to use is umount, not unmount.
>=20
> umount /cdrom
>=20
> Don't ask me why they left out the first 'n' there.

Because typing the sequence u-n-m at speed is really quite difficult.

It's also the reason that it's perl and not pearl.

Same as it's hard to type t-h-e correctly all teh time, nad typing
a-n-d is a bit of a pain too.  Anyone would think that the qwerty
keyboard layout was designed to slow down your typing speed...

	Cheers,

	Matthew

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> It's RELENG_5_2, not RELENG_5_2_1

Thanks all, :)   I did manage to try RELENG_5_2_1 and it did wack the 
entire /usr/src directory after I had reloaded it from CD :) but that's ok 
I did make a backup up my custom kernel file so I didn't lose anything 
major. Just took a while waiting for the system to reload the files off 
the Cd.  

Not that it relates to this subject but reloading the files from the CD 
image caused /etc/master.passwd to change, my users that I added to it 
were gone so I had to re-add them .  This wasn't a big deal I was able to 
fix that on my own.  :) 

 -- 
Regards.

Paul R Culmo

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Matthew Seaman <m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk> wrote:

> On Sun, Aug 01, 2004 at 04:36:57PM -0700, Henrik W Lund wrote:
> 
> > The command to use is umount, not unmount.
> > 
> > umount /cdrom
> > 
> > Don't ask me why they left out the first 'n' there.
> 
> Because typing the sequence u-n-m at speed is really quite difficult.
> 
> It's also the reason that it's perl and not pearl.
> 
> Same as it's hard to type t-h-e correctly all teh time, nad typing
> a-n-d is a bit of a pain too.  Anyone would think that the qwerty
> keyboard layout was designed to slow down your typing speed...

I don't remember where, but I read somewhere that the qwerty layout
was not designed for raw speed (as some people think) but was designed
for speed on _mechanical_ typewriters.  i.e. part of it's design is
to maximize the possibility that you'll alternate left-hand/right-hand,
thus minimizing the possibility that the hammers that fly up and strike
the paper won't jam.  (probably most of you have never used a truely
_manual_ typewriter, and thus don't understand the mechanics ...
manual typewriters use hammers, much like a piano, that have the embossed
letters on them, and you have to hit the key hard enough to cause the
hammer to fly up and strike through the ink ribbon and put the image of
the letter on the paper.  You also had the possibility that if you tried
to type too fast, the next hammer would hit the first hammer as it was
on its way down, thus jamming the typewriter and requiring you to stick
your hand in the mechanism and unjam it, which meant you probably got
ink on your hands ... _unlike_ a piano, all the hammers with the letters
on them were angled to strike the ribbon/paper at exactly the same
location, thus the possibility of collission was very high.)

Anyway ... the fact that the qwerty layout was adopted for electric
typerwriters, and later keyboards that don't have the same restrictions as
manual typewriters is an unfortunate consequence of "let's use something
that everyone already knows."  It would have been better if the folks who
developed the electric typewriter had used the Dvorak layout, but it's
unlikely at this point that the world will switch.

If you've never seen a mechanical typewriter, it's an interesting history
lesson.  It will explain a lot about why the keyboards we use today function
they way they do.  Just wait until you learn how the SHIFT key used to
function!  ... I wonder if I still have that old cheapo typerwriter in
the attic somewhere ...

-- 
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sylvia bowman <sylviabow@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Thanks for answering my email.  Believe me this is not a joke.  It's
> driving me crazy.  My tv is hooked up to Cox Cable in Las Vegas, NV.
> The channel I'm receiving the message on is CBS.  The address looks
> something like this:  <http://>[n:][e:2000101][8A41]

What makes you think this address has anything to do with FreeBSD?

> I've received other addressess also, but you are the first ones kind
> enough to answer me.  It begins with a solid black square that almost
> completely fills the screen.  Then your address scrolls across the top
> of the screen.  When that one is complete, the same address scrolls
> across the screen under the first.  It continues until it reaches the
> bottom.  They just keep moving up and new ones are added at the bottom.
> If I click a volume button the addresses stop for a few seconds and then
> start up again.  I've tried to tape it because everybody else is asleep
> and no one believes me, but it won't tape.  When I play the tape back I
> just get a blurry screen.

This is almost definately a problem with Cox.  As bizaar as it sounds,
somehow it doesn't suprise me.  However, I'm sure you got the other
emails ... most folks on the mailing list assumed this was some sort
of joke.  I can't blame them, it sounds pretty silly/crazy.

However, most cable companies are using the Internet to transfer their
data around.  Just like it's possible to crack a MS Windows machine to
steal informatin from it, it's probably possible to crack Cox's equipment
as well.

If I were you, I would contact Cox and bitch them out.  Even if someone
on the Internet has managed to crack Cox's system to push data to you
that they shouldn't be allowed to, it's _Cox_ responsibility to fix
it.  You may have to use a video camera to capture what's happening, as
it's very possible that it's occuring in such a way that your VCR can't
capture it.

However, it's almost definately not related to FreeBSD, and thus you're
unlikely to get very much useful assistance from this mailing list.
Despite the fact that Cox is likely not to believe you, then deny that
there is a problem, those are the people you need to speak with to get
it fixed.  Be persistant.  If you can't get a response from them, call
the local news station and see if they'll be willing to do an expose ...
news crews love stuff like this.

> Bill Moran <wmoran@potentialtech.com> wrote:sylvia bowman wrote:
> 
> > I am receiving your email address on my television screen. It happens
> > late on Saturday evenings. Can you address this situation, please.
> > Sylvia Bowman
> 
> I'm assuming this isn't a joke ...
> 
> This is about the most unlikely thing I've ever heard of. However, if it
> really is happening, you're going to have to give a better description of
> what you mean. Are you saying that on Saturday evenings your TV screen
> says "questions@freebsd.org"? Or that you see FreeBSD emails on your
> screen?
> 
> Are you using some sort of webTV?

-- 
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I am running a Dual Xeon 2.8ghz w/ SMP, SCHED_ULE on FreeBSD
5.2.1-RELEASE-p9.

Whenever I load the server a bit more (let seti@home run, compile stuff in
multiple jails, etc), it will simple go offline. I confirmed with the
datacenter and it is indeed a panic, but the datacenter didn't give me the
panic message. I know for *sure* it's because of the high loads.

I need to sort this out, this is a powerful server being cut because of
FreeBSD/SMP, and I know there is a kernel option to prevent the panic, I
read about it ages ago on a forum. But I can't locate it. That user said
if he disabled SMP, panics would stop. But another user suggested adding a
kernel option (which I simply don't remember), and panics stopped, even
with SMP.

I tried KVA_PAGES=512, but it only caused another panic, this time as soon
as the system started up..

syncing disks, buffers remaining... panic: pmap_invalidate_range:
interrupts disabled
cpuid = 0;
boot() called on cpu#0
uptime: 9s

That was the most I got from the datacenter since the sysadmin is on
vacations and the guy I spoke to isn't very technical.

So, KVA_PAGES isn't the solution..

Here are my rc.conf & sysctl.conf & loader.conf:

rc.conf:
sshd_enable="YES"
usbd_enable="YES"
sendmail_enable="NONE"
syslogd_enable="YES"
syslogd_flags="-ss"
linux_enable="YES"
inetd_enable="NO"
clear_tmp_enable="YES"
enable_quotas="YES"
check_quotas="YES"
update_motd="NO"
pf_enable="YES"
pf_logd="YES"
pf_conf="/etc/pf.conf"


sysctl.conf:

security.bsd.see_other_uids=0
net.inet.tcp.recvspace=32768
net.inet.tcp.sendspace=32768
net.inet.icmp.drop_redirect=1
net.inet.tcp.blackhole=2
net.inet.udp.blackhole=2
net.inet.tcp.log_in_vain=0
net.inet.udp.log_in_vain=0
kern.maxfiles=32768
security.jail.set_hostname_allowed=0
kern.maxfilesperproc=2000
kern.maxprocperuid=400
kern.coredump=0
net.inet.tcp.msl=7500
kern.ipc.somaxconn=16424


loader.conf:

hint.acpi.0.disabled=1
kern.ipc.nmbclusters=32768
kern.ipc.maxsockets=16424
kern.maxproc=8000


These are my custom kernel options:

options                 IPSTEALTH
options                 QUOTA
options                 RANDOM_IP_ID
options                 SC_DISABLE_REBOOT




Any help is really appreciated, I have this server idling (compile lots of
stuff=die) for 2 weeks now :/

Regards

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I'm getting lost in Suns marketing-oriented webpages, and I can't seem
to find the information I need.

I'm going to start doing Java development, and I'm trying to make sure
that all my legal ducks are in a row.  Can someone point me to a
document that explains what's up with Java licensing.  I mean, if I
install jdk14 to develop java apps, can I resell those apps?  There was
a warning that said something about not redistributing binaries, but
it's too vague to tell me whether that means bytecode genereated by
the java compiler, or binaries that would result from me tweaking the
jdk itself.

I'm looking for a little clarification!

TIA.

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A make buildworld fails to compile FreeBSD 5.2.1-p9 with the warning
dereferencing type-punned pointer will break strict-aliasing and -Werror
is set.  The first library it fails on is libpam compiled staticly.
Even if I set -DNO_WERROR to get past libpam, a later part will fail
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buildworld, it finishes.  I've had this problem since I tried to compile
5.2.1-p2 so I haven't been able to upgrade once beyond 5.2.1.  I haven't
seen anything relevent in the UPDATING file.

Relevant make.conf lines:
CPUTYPE=3Dp3
CFLAGS=3D-O2 -pipe

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Bill Moran wrote:
> I'm getting lost in Suns marketing-oriented webpages, and I can't seem
> to find the information I need.
> 
> I'm going to start doing Java development, and I'm trying to make sure
> that all my legal ducks are in a row.  Can someone point me to a
> document that explains what's up with Java licensing.  I mean, if I
> install jdk14 to develop java apps, can I resell those apps?  There was
> a warning that said something about not redistributing binaries, but
> it's too vague to tell me whether that means bytecode genereated by
> the java compiler, or binaries that would result from me tweaking the
> jdk itself.
> 
> I'm looking for a little clarification!
> 
> TIA.
> 
not sure of a specific url that answers your questions.

However having been a java developer for a while you can redistribute 
your app anyway you'd like, however you cannot redistribute SUN's 
JRE/JDK without their premission.

Only apps i've seen that redistribute JRE/JDK are IDE's ...


hth

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On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 02:56:41PM +0200, Albert van Dam wrote:
> Hi All
>=20
> I am a newbie to FreeBSD.
>=20
> We have the following setup in a lab environment:
> * PC1 (IP: 192.168.10.2/24) connected with cross over to wireless router
> A (IP: 192.168.10.1/24 - sis0)
> * PC2 (IP: 192.168.20.2/24) connected with cross over to wireless router
> B (IP: 192.168.20.1/24 - sis0)
> * Wireless router A (IP: 192.168.30.1/24 - wi0) connected with 802.11b
> to Wireless router B (IP: 192.168.30.2/24 - wi1)
>=20
> PC1 can ping PC2 and PC2 can ping PC1.
> Both Wireless router A and Wireless router B runs FreeBSD. The routing
> on this works but I cannot get UDP Multicast packets through. I have
> read in the FreeBSD docs that mrouted should be running and subsequently
> I have it running on both routers.
>=20

I think that mrouted will only forward multicast packets that it knows
another interface is subscribed to so network A would have to tell the
router an IGMP packet subscribing to the multicast channel you're
talking on on network B, and vice-versa.  Not sure how to generate the
IGMP packet, it's been a while since I worked with multicast.

> Tcpdump shows the UDP multicast packets on Wireless router A from PC1 on
> sis0 and UDP multicast packets on Wireless router B from PC2 on sis0.=20
>=20
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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> Albert
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> Just an update, i checked the logs i get
> "Failed to detect XF86DGA mouse"
> i have a feeling this is because im using xorg

Go to your xorg.conf and look at this section:

# This loads the miscellaneous extensions module, and disables
# initialisation of the XFree86-DGA extension within that module.
    SubSection  "extmod"
      Option    "omit xfree86-dga"   # don't initialise the DGA extension
    EndSubSectio

As you can see, I have it disabled. If you just remove "omit" then it _shou=
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I'm playing Unreal Tournament 2004 all the time on my Gentoo Linux machine,=
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Bill Moran wrote:
> I'm going to start doing Java development, and I'm trying to make sure
> that all my legal ducks are in a row.  Can someone point me to a
> document that explains what's up with Java licensing.

There are two licenses you care about, the one with the Java 1.4 SDK, which says:

B.  Redistribution.  This Agreement does not grant you the right to 
redistribute Software.  Please refer to the following URL for information 
regarding the redistribution of Software if you are interested in redistribution:

http://sun.com/software/products/appsrvr/appsrvr_oem.html

...in other words, Sun would like to sell you a license to run the software in 
production.  However, you don't have to do that if you don't want to, as the 
other license for the Java Runtime Environment, at:

http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/j2re-1_4_2_05-license.txt

...is freely available, and is what your end-users will need to accept in 
order to run your programs.

> I mean, if I install jdk14 to develop java apps, can I resell those apps?

Sure, you own the software you write-- obviously providing you don't include 
any of Sun's code with your software, indemnify Sun against all evil, etc etc.

> There was a warning that said something about not redistributing binaries,
> but it's too vague to tell me whether that means bytecode genereated by the
> java compiler, or binaries that would result from me tweaking the jdk
> itself.

That's correct.  You're not supposed to tweak the JRE itself, nor write 
software which changes things like how the java.* and com.sun.* packages work.

[ No, Virginia, Java is not OSI open source. :-)]

-- 
-Chuck

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> I am running a Dual Xeon 2.8ghz w/ SMP, SCHED_ULE on FreeBSD
> 5.2.1-RELEASE-p9.

Why aren't you running FreeBSD 4.10 on a machine like that? 5.2.1 is simply=
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adrian kok wrote:
> Can you tell me in details?

Sure-- if you ask a specific question, you will get a detailed answer.

> I need the bandwidth software to create graph in 1G

Your question is unclear.  You may be asking about drivers for gigabit 
ethernet NICs (see "man gx", "man bge", "man sk").  Or maybe bandwidth 
management and traffic shaping (see "man dummynet"), or maybe you're talking 
about something else like network management tools which produce pretty charts 
and graphs (see "ls /usr/ports/net-mgmt").

-- 
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On 2004-08-01 04:18, DK <asdzxc111@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Floppy & CD mount OK now, however even though the floppy mounts OK,
> when I mount the floppy, I get:
>
> 127# mount -v -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt
> /dev/fd0 on /mnt (msdos, local, reads: sync 2 async 0)
>
> floppy: mount -v -t msdos /dev/fd0c /mnt
> CDROM: mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0c /cdrom
>
> However, I can't seem to unmount them. I get "Command not found".
> 127# unmount /cdrom
> unmount: Command not found.

There is no "unmount" command.  Try "umount" without the extra 'n'.

> > > When I run partition magic in Win2000, its says that I have a BAD
> > > partition. Doing some searching, found that BSD messes up something
> > > with the sizes of the geometry of the selected partitions(slices) -
> > > still don't know how to fix this ???
> >
> > Don't "fix" anything.  It's more likely that just Partition Magic that
> > is brain-damaged and cannot read the BSD partition properly.
>
> No, partition magic can read the BSD partition correctly. PM is saying
> the whole primary parition (both Windows 2000 + FBSD) is BAD (nothing
> to do with surface errors)

I don't know anything about your partition table so I can't say for sure
if PartitionMagic has gone nuts or not.  I do remember it had "issues"
with BSD slices, but that was about a year ago.  I don't use PM so
knowing if these issues are resolved now is impossible for me.

> I can't remember where I read it (BSD site or book, will look later)
> but when you make the slices, the sizes must add up to a certain
> divisable number, otherwise part of the partition (small number like
> 1024kb) will be unusable.  Thats why PM is saying that the whole
> partition is BAD. But I don't know how to fix this ???

Use the "fdisk" command on your disk to print the partition table and
show me the output.  You should see something like this:

    # fdisk /dev/ad0
    ******* Working on device /dev/ad0 *******
    parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are:
    cylinders=87233 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl)

    Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1
    parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are:
    cylinders=87233 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl)

    Media sector size is 512
    Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1
    Information from DOS bootblock is:
    The data for partition 1 is:
    sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD)
        start 63, size 1012032 (494 Meg), flag 80 (active)
            beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1;
            end: cyl 62/ head 254/ sector 63
    The data for partition 2 is:
    sysid 6 (0x06),(Primary 'big' DOS (>= 32MB))
        start 1012095, size 2040255 (996 Meg), flag 0
            beg: cyl 63/ head 0/ sector 1;
            end: cyl 189/ head 254/ sector 63
    The data for partition 3 is:
    sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD)
        start 3052350, size 84871395 (41441 Meg), flag 0
            beg: cyl 190/ head 0/ sector 1;
            end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63
    The data for partition 4 is:
    <UNUSED>

- Giorgos

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On 2004-08-01 04:48, DK <asdzxc111@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I edited rc.conf & added the line: amd_enable="YES"
>
> However, my devices(Floppy & CDROM) are not automounting after logging
> in or starting X ???

You have to tell amd what devices to automount and where by creating a
proper amd.conf file.  See the amd.conf(5) manual page:

	$ man 5 amd.conf

> 1) Trying to search for a file I get the error:
>
> 127# locate mysql
> locate: database too small: /var/db/locate.database

Your 'locate' database is out of date or is empty.  Try logging in as
root and manually firing up the script that periodically updates it:

	# /etc/periodic/weekly/310.locate

Then you'll be able to use "locate" as expected.  This should have
already run if you kept your machine up at least a week, but you
probably haven't so run it manually ;-)

> 2) I deleted the installed package xfce4, then added it again but xfce4 still
> won't start. Is the warnings(about versions) given when I add the
> package(below) a cause of why it won't start ???
>
> 127# pkg_add xfce4-wm-4.0.5.tgz
> pkg_add: warning: package 'xfce4-wm-4.0.5' requires 'jpeg-6b_3', but 'jpeg-6b_2' is installed
> pkg_add: warning: package 'xfce4-wm-4.0.5' requires 'python-2.3.4', but 'python-2.3.3_5' is installed
> pkg_add: warning: package 'xfce4-wm-4.0.5' requires 'png-1.2.5_5', but 'png-1.2.5_3' is installed
> pkg_add: warning: package 'xfce4-wm-4.0.5' requires 'glib-2.4.2', but 'glib-2.4.0' is installed
> pkg_add: warning: package 'xfce4-wm-4.0.5' requires 'shared-mime-info-0.14_3', but 'shared-mime-info-0.14_2' is installed
> pkg_add: warning: package 'xfce4-wm-4.0.5' requires 'pango-1.4.0_1', but 'pango-1.4.0' is installed
> pkg_add: warning: package 'xfce4-wm-4.0.5' requires 'gtk-2.4.3_1', but 'gtk-2.4.0' is installed
> pkg_add: warning: package 'xfce4-wm-4.0.5' requires 'startup-notification-0.7', but 'startup-notification-0.6' is installed

You have lots of old (out of date) packages installed.  Have you gotten
your FreeBSD workstation to connect to the network yet?  If yes, you can
install `portupgrade' and use it to update all your packages/ports to
their latest versions.

This is probably not why xfce doesn't work though.  The
sysutils/xfce4-utils package installs a command called "startxfce4".
AFAIK, this is the program that fires up xfce.  When you install that
package (as part of the dependency list of xfce4) you should be able to
use xfce4 as your desktop by editing your ~/.xinitrc file and making
sure that the last command it runs is:

	exec startxfce4

If the .xinitrc script already contains other 'exec' commands, for
instance to start Windowmaker, like this one:

	$ cat -n .xinitrc | tail -2
	    49
	    50  exec wmaker

you might want to comment out or delete those to make sure they don't
stop startxfce4 from running.

> 3)I am trying to install Apachetoolbox-1.5.70(it may well be a
> BigApache for BSD :)) - but I get the errors "Command not found"
> trying to run it:
>
> 127# pwd
> /usr/ports/distfiles/Apachetoolbox-1.5.70
> 127# ls
> CHANGE          MIRROR          bin             etc             src
> INSTALL         README          contrib         install.sh
> 127# ./install. sh
> ./install.: Command not found.
> 127# ./install sh
> ./install: Command not found.
> 127# ./install
> ./install: Command not found.

This is not the proper way to install ports or packages in FreeBSD.
Please, refer to the Handbook section on ports and packages for details.

> [snip irrelevant attempts to force bash to do something mysterious]
>
> Any ideas to these 3 last problems ???

Yes, read the Handbook for instructions on installing ports/packages :/

- Giorgos

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On Sun, 2004-08-01 at 18:12, Jorn Argelo wrote:
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> [snip]
> 
> > Just an update, i checked the logs i get
> > "Failed to detect XF86DGA mouse"
> > i have a feeling this is because im using xorg
> 
> Go to your xorg.conf and look at this section:
> 
> # This loads the miscellaneous extensions module, and disables
> # initialisation of the XFree86-DGA extension within that module.
>     SubSection  "extmod"
>       Option    "omit xfree86-dga"   # don't initialise the DGA extension
>     EndSubSectio
> 
> As you can see, I have it disabled. If you just remove "omit" then it _should_ 
> load your module. 
> 
> I'm playing Unreal Tournament 2004 all the time on my Gentoo Linux machine, 
> using Xorg. It runs like a train, never any problems with it. So I don't 
> think that Xorg has no compatibility with XFree86 or anything.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Jorn
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That fixed it thanks, well as per my other message, im having to go back
to 5.2.1 because the gcc in -current breaks a couple of gnome ports
*really important to me as its all the programs i use lol*
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4.10 won't work with the current hardware on the server, and I wanted to
try 5.2.1 because of the improved SMP.

I know there is a solution for this by adding a kernel option, but i'm
completely CLUELESS.

Can anyone give a hint?


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>> I am running a Dual Xeon 2.8ghz w/ SMP, SCHED_ULE on FreeBSD
>> 5.2.1-RELEASE-p9.
>
> Why aren't you running FreeBSD 4.10 on a machine like that? 5.2.1 is
> simply
> NOT ready for production enviroments. Why do you think it's still
> considered
> as unstable? Your panic is probably being caused by a bad driver, but of
> course I can't tell you which one.
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> will
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Patrick Dung wrote:
> I am not programmer but I want to know what is the use
> of adding so much locks/mutex in the stack?

So that it works properly under SMP.
Concurrent programming is really hard to do.

> Also, would it make a newbie/beginner feel difficult to
> understand the code (I mean the TCP/IP part)?

Why, yes, certainly it does.  Beyond that, the size of the code involved 
implies something about the complexity:

8-epia# wc -l /usr/src/sys/netinet/tcp_input.c
     3349 /usr/src/sys/netinet/tcp_input.c

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Loren

We managed to get it working on the 23rd of July. Mrouted does forward
multicast packets as long as at least two machines join a multicast
session. The one channel on one of our routers were stuffed so we
replaced the router and it worked fine from there.

Albert

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On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 02:56:41PM +0200, Albert van Dam wrote:
> Hi All
> 
> I am a newbie to FreeBSD.
> 
> We have the following setup in a lab environment:
> * PC1 (IP: 192.168.10.2/24) connected with cross over to wireless 
> router A (IP: 192.168.10.1/24 - sis0)
> * PC2 (IP: 192.168.20.2/24) connected with cross over to wireless 
> router B (IP: 192.168.20.1/24 - sis0)
> * Wireless router A (IP: 192.168.30.1/24 - wi0) connected with 802.11b

> to Wireless router B (IP: 192.168.30.2/24 - wi1)
> 
> PC1 can ping PC2 and PC2 can ping PC1.
> Both Wireless router A and Wireless router B runs FreeBSD. The routing

> on this works but I cannot get UDP Multicast packets through. I have 
> read in the FreeBSD docs that mrouted should be running and 
> subsequently I have it running on both routers.
> 

I think that mrouted will only forward multicast packets that it knows
another interface is subscribed to so network A would have to tell the
router an IGMP packet subscribing to the multicast channel you're
talking on on network B, and vice-versa.  Not sure how to generate the
IGMP packet, it's been a while since I worked with multicast.

> Tcpdump shows the UDP multicast packets on Wireless router A from PC1 
> on sis0 and UDP multicast packets on Wireless router B from PC2 on 
> sis0.
> 
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Albert
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3BSD wrote:
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Heh, good advice but how could you notice the difference?

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Hello,

Normally I download the FreeBSd packages (4.10R) on
http://projects.imp.ch but the lates version they have for fbsd-4.10 is
OOo-1.1.0_1
On the openoffice site I followed some links to the
porting.openoffice.org for freebsd and saw packages for freebsd-4.10
OOO-version 1.1.2 which is quite higher than on imp.ch

Can someone tell me if it's OK to upgrade or should I just stay with the
packages from projects.imp.ch? FWIW, the latter work fine ;-)

-- 
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I was installed apsfilter with lpd here with printcap setting as:

lp|deskjet;r=300x300;q=draft;c=full;p=letter;m=auto:\
    :lp=/dev/ulpt0:\
    :if=/usr/local/etc/apsfilter/basedir/bin/apsfilter:\
    :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\
    :lf=/var/spool/lpd/lp/log:\
    :af=/var/spool/lpd/lp/acct:\
    :mx#0:\
    :sh:

/dev/ulpt0 is recognized by usbdevs and jobs are being queued but printer not 
works, not even sign, but job are being unqueued after about few seconds.

(dmesg)
ulpt0: hp deskjet 3420, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 2, iclass 7/1
ulpt0: using bi-directional mode

Please, help me.

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On Sat, Jul 31, 2004 at 10:08:32PM -0500, adp wrote:
> Any help on this? Googling shows a long history of people having these
> problems but no solutions. Please don't give me a URL to a Google showing
> others having this problem--I've seen that and more. I want to know if there
> is a solution. Any help is appreciated!

When this happens are you able to attach truss or gdb to the process?
This is impossible to diagnosis without some kind of debugging
information.

Brandon D. Valentine
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i recently upgraded some machines to FreeBSD 5.2.1-STABLE, and trying to 
install the PEAR objects (PHP stuff).

I've looked through the INDEX file in my local ports collection, and the 
PEAR tree is looking for:

 php4-4.3.4 

whereas mod_php4 and any of the other (non-PEAR ) PHP ports are looking for:

mod_php4-4.3.4,1

when i try to use pkg_add ... i get the following:

burnt# pkg_add -r pear-DB
Fetching 
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5.2.1-release/Latest/pear-DB.tbz... 
Done.
Fetching 
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5.2.1-release/All/php4-4.3.4_2.tbz... 
Done.
pkg_add: package 'php4-4.3.4_2' conflicts with mod_php4-4.3.4_2,1
pkg_add: please use pkg_delete first to remove conflicting package(s) or 
-f to force installation
pkg_add: pkg_add of dependency 'php4-4.3.4_2' failed!



is there a way to tweak the Makefile locally to force the PEAR install 
to use the existing PHP version?


everything on my new machine works with the existing PHP setup *but* one 
site that uses the PEAR classes.



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[Bill Moran, 2004-08-01]
>  I don't remember where, but I read somewhere that the qwerty layout
>  was not designed for raw speed (as some people think) but was designed
>  for speed on _mechanical_ typewriters.  i.e. part of it's design is
>  to maximize the possibility that you'll alternate left-hand/right-hand,
>  thus minimizing the possibility that the hammers that fly up and strike
>  the paper won't jam.  (probably most of you have never used a truely
>  _manual_ typewriter, and thus don't understand the mechanics ...

This is probably not true (that most of us have never used one of those,
that is.) It's not -that- long, since these were in common use, probably
just 20 years. And even though I'm not alot older than that myself, most
people my age have seen and played with one of those as a kid. Everyone
had one in the attic, if not your parents, at least your grand parent.

I can, by the way, confirm what you've read. The qwerty layout -is- indeed
designed to make typing slow, in order to minimize the posibility of a jam

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On Sun, 1 Aug 2004 06:42:42 +0800 (CST), adrian kok wrote
> Do you know there is bandwidth software to support
> Giga ethernet?

What do you mean by "bandwidth sortware"?

DrVince

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On Sat, 31 Jul 2004 22:15:47 +0200, Undisclosed_Recipient wrote
> where can I get ISO IMAGE OF newest FREEBSD ?

FreeBSD offers the ISO of releases.  If you want other ISOs you have to make 
them yourself.

You need a working computer with a FreeBSD installed.  Fetch the sources 
(cvsup).  Optionnally update your system from these sources (may prevent 
glitches).  Go to /usr/src/release/ and build from there.  There are some infos 
around the web to help you from that point.

DrVince

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Hey again everyone.  I'm trying to get two network cards working on
the same FreeBSD 5.2.1 box, which would normally be pretty trivial,
except they're both on the fxp driver.

I have them booting up, but As I suspected, the onboard nic dropped
down to fpx1 while the newly installed nic hijacked fpx0.

Here's the relevant info from /var/run/dmesg.boot:
fxp0: <Intel 82557 Pro/100 Ethernet> port 0xdf00-0xdf1f mem 0xfce00000-0xfcefffff,0xf8000000-0xf8000fff irq 21 at device 0.0 on pci2 
fxp0: Ethernet address 00:a0:c9:74:12:48
miibus0: <MII bus> on fxp0
inphy0: <i82555 10/100 media interface> on miibus0
inphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
fxp1: <Intel 82801BA (D865) Pro/100 VE Ethernet> port 0xdf40-0xdf7f mem 0xfcdef000-0xfcdeffff irq 20 at device 8.0 on pci2
fxp1: Ethernet address 00:11:11:02:20:43
miibus1: <MII bus> on fxp1
inphy1: <i82562ET 10/100 media interface> on miibus1
inphy1:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto

The ethernet addresses are what tells me the nics swapped out.

Before installing the second nic, fxp0 (the onboard nic) was falling
on irq 20 with ethernet address 00:11:11:01:20:43.

I guess I don't really care all that much, but just to be sure they
don't try connecting the wrong network if the other dies, I'd like to
force them to a specific device.

I vaguely remember something about hints in /boot/device.hints but I'm
not sure I like the idea of 'guessing' the right way to do this.

I didn't find it in the FAQ or the FM, but I know that doesn't mean
it's not there.  I'd appreciate the pointer or the quick and dirty
howto.

TIA
Lou
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Trying to reinstall Windows NT 4.0 and reconnect it to the internet via LAN
with FreeBSD 4.9 as the server.

I had previously attempted to repair a corrupted system file in my NT box
but was unsuccessful.  I ended up reinstalling back to the original Service
Pack 1.   My plan now is to upgrade the IE browser and OS on-line but I'm
having trouble getting the browser to work.

At this stage, the NT box can ping web sites successfully using
their IP address but not the URL name.  The browser will search and find
a website but eventually responds with "Could not open ..."

Would appreciate any troubleshooting advice you have time to relay.

Thanks,
Bob Perry.


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distributed.

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Bill Moran wrote:

>Matthew Seaman <m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>On Sun, Aug 01, 2004 at 04:36:57PM -0700, Henrik W Lund wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>The command to use is umount, not unmount.
>>>
>>>umount /cdrom
>>>
>>>Don't ask me why they left out the first 'n' there.
>>>      
>>>
>>Because typing the sequence u-n-m at speed is really quite difficult.
>>
>>It's also the reason that it's perl and not pearl.
>>
>>Same as it's hard to type t-h-e correctly all teh time, nad typing
>>a-n-d is a bit of a pain too.  Anyone would think that the qwerty
>>keyboard layout was designed to slow down your typing speed...
>>    
>>
>
>I don't remember where, but I read somewhere that the qwerty layout
>was not designed for raw speed (as some people think) but was designed
>for speed on _mechanical_ typewriters.  i.e. part of it's design is
>to maximize the possibility that you'll alternate left-hand/right-hand,
>thus minimizing the possibility that the hammers that fly up and strike
>the paper won't jam.  (probably most of you have never used a truely
>_manual_ typewriter, and thus don't understand the mechanics ...
>manual typewriters use hammers, much like a piano, that have the embossed
>letters on them, and you have to hit the key hard enough to cause the
>hammer to fly up and strike through the ink ribbon and put the image of
>the letter on the paper.  You also had the possibility that if you tried
>to type too fast, the next hammer would hit the first hammer as it was
>on its way down, thus jamming the typewriter and requiring you to stick
>your hand in the mechanism and unjam it, which meant you probably got
>ink on your hands ... _unlike_ a piano, all the hammers with the letters
>on them were angled to strike the ribbon/paper at exactly the same
>location, thus the possibility of collission was very high.)
>
>Anyway ... the fact that the qwerty layout was adopted for electric
>typerwriters, and later keyboards that don't have the same restrictions as
>manual typewriters is an unfortunate consequence of "let's use something
>that everyone already knows."  It would have been better if the folks who
>developed the electric typewriter had used the Dvorak layout, but it's
>unlikely at this point that the world will switch.
>
>If you've never seen a mechanical typewriter, it's an interesting history
>lesson.  It will explain a lot about why the keyboards we use today function
>they way they do.  Just wait until you learn how the SHIFT key used to
>function!  ... I wonder if I still have that old cheapo typerwriter in
>the attic somewhere ...
>
>  
>
I remember those!! I used to love hammering as many keys at the same 
time as I could. My parents would spend ages "unjamming" it afterwards. :-D

-Henrik W Lund

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On Saturday 31 July 2004 21:08, adp wrote:
> I recently posted the following message to MySQL discussion list. The
> response there, and the one I keep finding on Google, is that this is a
> long-standing issue betweeen FreeBSD and MySQL. For me this has been
> happening since FreeBSD 4.4.

I don't have any additional info about the problem, but as you say it does 
seem to be a long-standing issue.  The hosting company I use 
(johncompanies.com -- highly recommended) has a "nanny" script that you may 
find useful:

http://www.johncompanies.com/collocation/knowledge/freebsd_mysqld_nanny.txt

HTH,

JN

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Bob Perry <rperry4@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Trying to reinstall Windows NT 4.0 and reconnect it to the internet via LAN
> with FreeBSD 4.9 as the server.
> 
> I had previously attempted to repair a corrupted system file in my NT box
> but was unsuccessful.  I ended up reinstalling back to the original Service
> Pack 1.   My plan now is to upgrade the IE browser and OS on-line but I'm
> having trouble getting the browser to work.
> 
> At this stage, the NT box can ping web sites successfully using
> their IP address but not the URL name.

Sounds like your DNS is not set up on the NT box.  Set up your DNS on the
NT box, and all should be well.

-- 
Bill Moran
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> Can you tell me in details?
>
> I need the bandwidth software to create graph in 1G
quite unclear question.

you ipfw to create counters for what you need, read it regularly (cron
etc.), then process data to greate some graphs etc. (maybe gnuplot).

Possibly there are something that will do this for you.


if you like just to get how big traffic goes through interface
you may use systat to take data.

anyway - it doesn't mean if it's 9600bps ppp link of ethernet or gigabit
ethernet
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> I had previously attempted to repair a corrupted system file in my NT box
> but was unsuccessful.  I ended up reinstalling back to the original Service
> Pack 1.   My plan now is to upgrade the IE browser and OS on-line but I'm
> having trouble getting the browser to work.
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> At this stage, the NT box can ping web sites successfully using
> their IP address but not the URL name.  The browser will search and find
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> Would appreciate any troubleshooting advice you have time to relay.
>

DNS doesn't work for you
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On Sat, Jul 31, 2004 at 10:08:32PM -0500, adp wrote:
> I recently posted the following message to MySQL discussion list. The
> response there, and the one I keep finding on Google, is that this is a
> long-standing issue betweeen FreeBSD and MySQL. For me this has been
> happening since FreeBSD 4.4.
> 
> I have one site where we are going to have to move to Linux. I would much
> prefer keeping us on FreeBSD, but we just can't afford the downtime anymore.
> Another site is looking at moving to PostgreSQL on FreeBSD.

That's too bad.  MySQL can run quite well on FreeBSD.

> I have several MySQL and FreeBSD installs across a few different sites, and
> I consistently have problems with mysqld. It will begin to eat up all of the
> CPU and eventually become unresponsive (or the machine will just burn). I
> can't seem to manually reproduce this, but given enough time a FreeBSD box
> with mysqld will go down.

Yes, it's FreeBSD's broken DNS libraries.  Add skip-name-resolve to
your my.cnf and the problem will probably go away.

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Hi!

I would like to be able to connect the keyboard after boot. It seems this
is the way the ERA (Enhanced Remote Access) works on our Dell machines, is
it possible to get this work ? I've seen somewhere that if the PS/2 isn't
plugged in at boot FreeBSD defaults to USB, is it possible to change this
behavior. ?


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Usely I do something like this:

# cd /root
# cvsup -g -L 2 /root/ports.supfile
# cd /usr/ports
# make index
# portsdb -u

It always worked like a charm.. But this night after cvsup and a 'make
index' I ran portsdb -u and almost every portentry was deleted because
some error about 10 fieldnames needed ???? The result was that almost
every portname became unknown to portupgrade..
I ran make index a second and a third time with the same results.. Can't
figure out what's wrong all of a sudden..

I "fixed it" running "portsdb -Uu" --> this resulted in a good
/usr/ports/INDEX and a good index.db file.

Any ideas why the "make index" stopped working?

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Dear Sirs,

Currently my machine (FreeBSD 4.1) using gcc-2.95 which is running =
perfectly. however, I need to upgrade it to gcc-3.3 which i've did via =
/usr/ports/lang/gcc33

everything when smooth and installed.

but when I type gcc -v it still show gcc version 2.95
How do I get the new gcc-3.3 to run, what do i need to do or any =
configuration line, comands etc to make it work

thank you

adrian.

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On Sun, 1 Aug 2004 20:57:57 +0200
dick hoogendijk <dick@nagual.st> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Normally I download the FreeBSd packages (4.10R) on
> http://projects.imp.ch but the lates version they have for fbsd-4.10 is
> OOo-1.1.0_1
> On the openoffice site I followed some links to the
> porting.openoffice.org for freebsd and saw packages for freebsd-4.10
> OOO-version 1.1.2 which is quite higher than on imp.ch
> 
> Can someone tell me if it's OK to upgrade or should I just stay with the
> packages from projects.imp.ch? FWIW, the latter work fine ;-)

the packages you find below should be just fine:

http://porting.openoffice.org/freebsd/


enjoy.

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it was said:

>4.10 won't work with the current hardware on the
>server, and I wanted to
>try 5.2.1 because of the improved SMP.
>
>I know there is a solution for this by adding a
>kernel option, but i'm
>completely CLUELESS.
>
>Can anyone give a hint?
>
>
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>> On Sunday 01 August 2004 15:08, Hugo Silva wrote:
>>> I am running a Dual Xeon 2.8ghz w/ SMP, SCHED_ULE
>on FreeBSD
>>> 5.2.1-RELEASE-p9.
>>
>> Why aren't you running FreeBSD 4.10 on a machine
>like that? 5.2.1 is
>> simply
>> NOT ready for production enviroments. Why do you
>think it's still
>> considered
>> as unstable? Your panic is probably being caused by
>a bad driver, but of
>> course I can't tell you which one.
>>
>> So get in touch with your data centre and get 4.10
>on that machine. It
>> will
>> probably solve most of your problems.
>>
>> Jorn

Hello,

I hate to tell you this, but I think your problem may
be worse than you think. On the other hand, its
solution is close:

http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.3R/todo.html

Refer to item 2 under "show stopper defects".

HTH,

Stheg

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On Mon, 2 Aug 2004 06:45:50 +0800
"SP Network Solutions" <sales@spnets.com> wrote:

> Dear Sirs,
> 
> Currently my machine (FreeBSD 4.1) using gcc-2.95 which is running
> perfectly. however, I need to upgrade it to gcc-3.3 which i've did via
> /usr/ports/lang/gcc33
> 
> everything when smooth and installed.
> 
> but when I type gcc -v it still show gcc version 2.95
> How do I get the new gcc-3.3 to run, what do i need to do or any
> configuration line, comands etc to make it work

 `which gcc` would point you to the right direction ;-)



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I've been muddling through some of the source files for FreeBSD 
5.2.1-RELEASE, and I've noticed that a large number of .c files 
in /usr/src have something similar to below in them:

#ifndef lint
#if 0
static char sccsid[] = "@(#)cat.c       8.2 (Berkeley) 4/27/95";
#endif
#endif /* not lint */
#include <sys/cdefs.h>
__FBSDID("$FreeBSD: src/bin/cat/cat.c,v 1.29 2003/04/30 17:40:28 
obrien Exp $");

1) Isn't 'if 0' always negative?
2) What is the __FBSDID line doing?

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it was said:

>questions@freebsd.org is a mailing list.  Please keep
>the mailing list
>CCed on all replies.
>
>sylvia bowman <sylviabow@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for answering my email.  Believe me this is
>not a joke.  It's
>> driving me crazy.  My tv is hooked up to Cox Cable
>in Las Vegas, NV.
>> The channel I'm receiving the message on is CBS. 
>The address looks
>> something like this: 
<http://>[n:][e:2000101][8A41]
>
>What makes you think this address has anything to do
>with FreeBSD?
>
>> I've received other addressess also, but you are
>the first ones kind
>> enough to answer me.  It begins with a solid black 

<snip>

>> start up again.  I've tried to tape it because
>everybody else is asleep
>> and no one believes me, but it won't tape.  When I
>play the tape back I
>> just get a blurry screen.

<snip>

Hello,

What you have there is an ingress problem. The
question is what's causing it. It may be due to signal
leakage in the actual cable. If so, your neighbors
should see the same thing at the same time you do. Ask
them. Either way, Cox needs to test the coax from your
set top box all the way to the optical node. Have
someone come out with a strength meter. It may be a
noisy tap, and they won't find that testing from the
headend.
The fact you can't tape it, though, is interesting and
suggests that the signal isn't coming through the
cable. Perhaps someone within wireless range is doing
something that they ought to be doing better, and your
tuner is picking it up. That would be an FCC problem.

HTH,

Stheg

PS. BTW, why _do_ you think
"<http://>[n:][e:2000101][8A41]" is related to
FreeBSD?



		
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On Sun, 1 Aug 2004 12:17:29 +0930
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>  Don't fool with xmodmap; it will work against you in applications -- just 
>  bind the key sequence in your shell (tcsh?)
>  $  bindkey "^[[3~" delete-char

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On Mon, 2 Aug 2004 07:25:19 +0800
"SP Network Solutions" <sales@spnets.com> wrote:

> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ion-Mihai Tetcu" <itetcu@apropo.ro>
> To: "SP Network Solutions" <sales@spnets.com>
> Cc: <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 7:16 AM
> Subject: Re: upgrading gcc-2.95 to gcc-3.3
> 
> 
> > On Mon, 2 Aug 2004 06:45:50 +0800
> > "SP Network Solutions" <sales@spnets.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > Dear Sirs,
> > > 
> > > Currently my machine (FreeBSD 4.1) using gcc-2.95 which is running
> > > perfectly. however, I need to upgrade it to gcc-3.3 which i've did via
> > > /usr/ports/lang/gcc33
> > > 
> > > everything when smooth and installed.
> > > 
> > > but when I type gcc -v it still show gcc version 2.95
> > > How do I get the new gcc-3.3 to run, what do i need to do or any
> > > configuration line, comands etc to make it work
> > 
> >  `which gcc` would point you to the right direction ;-)
>
> Thank you for answering my question.
> 
> 'which gcc'   it point me to /usr/bin/gcc
> 
> errr... but still cannot get gcc-3.3 to run
> Sorry...I'm confuse any tips to configure it to run..?

And the ports install binaries by default in ...... bingo /usr/local/bin

What you which(1) tell is that /usr/bin is the first and /usr/local/bin
in after it in in your shell's PATH.

So try /usr/local/bin/gcc -v

Note that it is not a good idea to over-write you system's gcc, as in
FreeBSD there is a very tight integration between the compiler and the
system. Some of the gcc ports provide a knob to install over "base" gcc
and probably they are tested to work, I don't know.

 % /usr/bin/gcc -v
Using built-in specs.
Configured with: FreeBSD/i386 system compiler
Thread model: posix
gcc version 3.3.3 [FreeBSD] 20031106


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Hello there.

Sometimes I'm trying new snapshots of 5-CURRENT from
ftp://current.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/i386/ on my box. The
latest snapshot of 5-CURRENT there is 5.2-CURRENT-20040710-JPSNAP now;
i.e. there was no new snapshot for about a month. May it be some
problem of the building machine? According to the build logs from
ftp://current.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/i386/log/ there always
was the same problem until today:

cc -O -pipe -I. -DIN_GCC -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DPREFIX=\"/usr\"
-I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../cc_tools
-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../cc_tools
-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcc
-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcc/config
-DGENERATOR_FILE  -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/include 
-L/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/lib -o genattrtab genattrtab.o rtl.o
print-rtl.o bitmap.o gensupport.o ggc-none.o read-rtl.o
insn-conditions.o genautomata.o varray.o min-insn-modes.o libiberty.a
-lm
/usr/lib/libm.so: undefined reference to `__isnanl'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status

Does somebody know when building of the snapshots will be
reconditioned?

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Damn.

And any clue on the magic kernel option that stopped the panics? Perhaps
it wasn't *that* magic and just decreased the odds of a panic hapenning
under high load, but that would do for me. I just lost the server 10
minutes ago doing a portupgrade -a with 4 jails running. :x

Regards,

Hugo

> it was said:
>
>>4.10 won't work with the current hardware on the
>>server, and I wanted to
>>try 5.2.1 because of the improved SMP.
>>
>>I know there is a solution for this by adding a
>>kernel option, but i'm
>>completely CLUELESS.
>>
>>Can anyone give a hint?
>>
>>
>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>
>>> On Sunday 01 August 2004 15:08, Hugo Silva wrote:
>>>> I am running a Dual Xeon 2.8ghz w/ SMP, SCHED_ULE
>>on FreeBSD
>>>> 5.2.1-RELEASE-p9.
>>>
>>> Why aren't you running FreeBSD 4.10 on a machine
>>like that? 5.2.1 is
>>> simply
>>> NOT ready for production enviroments. Why do you
>>think it's still
>>> considered
>>> as unstable? Your panic is probably being caused by
>>a bad driver, but of
>>> course I can't tell you which one.
>>>
>>> So get in touch with your data centre and get 4.10
>>on that machine. It
>>> will
>>> probably solve most of your problems.
>>>
>>> Jorn
>
> Hello,
>
> I hate to tell you this, but I think your problem may
> be worse than you think. On the other hand, its
> solution is close:
>
> http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.3R/todo.html
>
> Refer to item 2 under "show stopper defects".
>
> HTH,
>
> Stheg
>
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Josh Paetzel wrote:
> I've been muddling through some of the source files for FreeBSD=20
> 5.2.1-RELEASE, and I've noticed that a large number of .c files=20
> in /usr/src have something similar to below in them:
>=20
> #ifndef lint
> #if 0
> static char sccsid[] =3D "@(#)cat.c       8.2 (Berkeley) 4/27/95";
> #endif
> #endif /* not lint */
> #include <sys/cdefs.h>
> __FBSDID("$FreeBSD: src/bin/cat/cat.c,v 1.29 2003/04/30 17:40:28=20
> obrien Exp $");
>=20
> 1) Isn't 'if 0' always negative?

Yes, has the same effect as using comments. I don't know why #if 0 was
used here, but the line was probably kept in order to document the
(version) history of the file.

> 2) What is the __FBSDID line doing?

It has the same purpose as the static char sccsid[] line: Each and every
source file adds an id line to the resulting binary executable. Thus it
is possible to determine the exact version of file.

Example:

% ident /bin/ls

/bin/ls:
     $FreeBSD: src/lib/csu/i386-elf/crti.S,v 1.6 2002/05/15 04:19:49 obrien=
 Exp $
     $FreeBSD: src/lib/csu/i386-elf/crtn.S,v 1.5 2002/05/15 04:19:49 obrien=
 Exp $
     $FreeBSD: src/lib/csu/common/crtbrand.c,v 1.4 2003/10/17 15:43:13 pete=
r Exp $
     $FreeBSD: src/lib/csu/i386-elf/crt1.c,v 1.12 2003/01/26 23:14:47 markm=
 Exp $
     $FreeBSD: src/bin/ls/cmp.c,v 1.12 2002/06/30 05:13:54 obrien Exp $
     $FreeBSD: src/bin/ls/ls.c,v 1.75 2003/12/01 19:10:29 obrien Exp $
     $FreeBSD: src/bin/ls/print.c,v 1.66 2003/10/16 07:07:20 tjr Exp $
     $FreeBSD: src/bin/ls/util.c,v 1.32 2003/09/09 12:02:52 tjr Exp $

Btw: ident(1) also works on source files, Makefiles -- basically
everything that has a CVS id line.

__FBSDID is defined in /usr/src/sys/sys/cdefs.h

Simon

Btw: While reading the FreeBSD source can be very interesting, browsing the
     commit logs can be even more exciting: You can either use `cvs log'
     directly (on your local copy of the repository or via anoncvs),
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In the last episode (Aug 02), SP Network Solutions said:
> Currently my machine (FreeBSD 4.1) using gcc-2.95 which is running
> perfectly. however, I need to upgrade it to gcc-3.3 which i've did via
> /usr/ports/lang/gcc33
> 
> everything when smooth and installed.
> 
> but when I type gcc -v it still show gcc version 2.95 How do I get the new
> gcc-3.3 to run, what do i need to do or any configuration line, comands
> etc to make it work

gcc 3.3 installs itself as gcc33, so set CC=gcc33 and CXX=g++33 to use it.
Note that all the gcc* ports do this, so you can install all of them on the
same machine and pick which one to use whenever you want.

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Dan Nelson <dnelson@allantgroup.com> wrote:

> In the last episode (Aug 02), SP Network Solutions said:
> > Currently my machine (FreeBSD 4.1) using gcc-2.95 which is running
> > perfectly. however, I need to upgrade it to gcc-3.3 which i've did via
> > /usr/ports/lang/gcc33
> > 
> > everything when smooth and installed.
> > 
> > but when I type gcc -v it still show gcc version 2.95 How do I get the new
> > gcc-3.3 to run, what do i need to do or any configuration line, comands
> > etc to make it work
> 
> gcc 3.3 installs itself as gcc33, so set CC=gcc33 and CXX=g++33 to use it.
> Note that all the gcc* ports do this, so you can install all of them on the
> same machine and pick which one to use whenever you want.

Don't forget TenDRA ... which is another compiler option!

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On Sun, 1 Aug 2004 16:37:43 -0700 (PDT)
stheg olloydson <stheg_olloydson@yahoo.com> wrote:

> it was said:
> 
> >questions@freebsd.org is a mailing list.  Please keep
> >the mailing list
> >CCed on all replies.
> >
> >sylvia bowman <sylviabow@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks for answering my email.  Believe me this is
> >not a joke.  It's
> >> driving me crazy.  My tv is hooked up to Cox Cable
> >in Las Vegas, NV.
> >> The channel I'm receiving the message on is CBS. 
> >The address looks
> >> something like this: 
> <http://>[n:][e:2000101][8A41]
> >
> >What makes you think this address has anything to do
> >with FreeBSD?
> >
> >> I've received other addressess also, but you are
> >the first ones kind
> >> enough to answer me.  It begins with a solid black 
> 
> <snip>
> 
> >> start up again.  I've tried to tape it because
> >everybody else is asleep
> >> and no one believes me, but it won't tape.  When I
> >play the tape back I
> >> just get a blurry screen.
> 
> <snip>
> 
> Hello,
> 
> What you have there is an ingress problem. The
> question is what's causing it. It may be due to signal
> leakage in the actual cable. If so, your neighbors
> should see the same thing at the same time you do. Ask
> them. Either way, Cox needs to test the coax from your
> set top box all the way to the optical node. Have
> someone come out with a strength meter. It may be a
> noisy tap, and they won't find that testing from the
> headend.
> The fact you can't tape it, though, is interesting and
> suggests that the signal isn't coming through the
> cable. Perhaps someone within wireless range is doing
> something that they ought to be doing better, and your
> tuner is picking it up. That would be an FCC problem.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Stheg
> 
> PS. BTW, why _do_ you think
> "<http://>[n:][e:2000101][8A41]" is related to
> FreeBSD?
> 
> 
> 
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Bill Moran wrote:

>I'm inheriting some hardware.
>
>These boards have 64-bit PCI SATA cards jammed in 32-bit PCI slots.  Oddly
>enough, the boxen boot and start Linux (which will be replaced with FreeBSD
>when I'm done)
>
>I guess my question is hardware-related.  I mean, I can't believe this
>worked!  Has anyone else seen/done this?  Is this as crazy as it seems to
>me?
>  
>
Please check out this site:

http://www.pcisig.com/specifications/pcix_20/

As you will see, PCI-X is up to 533MHz bus speeds now and the standard 
is still backwards compatible with PCI.

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Hey guys,

I'm having a slight problem with FreeBSD... basically I want my screen
resolution at 1024x768 and not 800x600 i have a standard internal
graphics card (came with my pc and its by intel)... I had it working
before, but i just simply can't remember how I done it... If you could
help me i'd be very greatfull...

Cheers
-- 
- Oryx

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Bill Moran wrote:

>Bob Perry <rperry4@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Trying to reinstall Windows NT 4.0 and reconnect it to the internet via LAN
>>with FreeBSD 4.9 as the server.
>>
>>I had previously attempted to repair a corrupted system file in my NT box
>>but was unsuccessful.  I ended up reinstalling back to the original Service
>>Pack 1.   My plan now is to upgrade the IE browser and OS on-line but I'm
>>having trouble getting the browser to work.
>>
>>At this stage, the NT box can ping web sites successfully using
>>their IP address but not the URL name.
>>    
>>
>
>Sounds like your DNS is not set up on the NT box.  Set up your DNS on the
>NT box, and all should be well.
>
>  
>
I was able to make some adjustments in the NT box as recommended. 
Unfortunately, I made them without testing immediately afterward so
I'd rather not report them to the list at this time.

I do, however, have access to the internet now on the NT side.

Thanks for your help.

Bob Perry

-- 
I've learned that whatever hits the fan will not be evenly
distributed.

FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE-p2 #0

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   I'm designing a file server system and would like to use the AMD
   Athlon FX-53 processor as it will also run an accounting program to
   multiple users, but don't know which motherboard and chipset would be
   best. I've been looking at:
   Abit AV8
   Asus A8V Deluxe
   both are VIA chipsets, are these motherboards fully compaitible with
   FreeBSD?
   Which is the best chipset to go with nForce, VIA, SiS or something
   else?
   Which is the best motherboard for this processor and freeBSD around?
   Any suggestions would be welcomed.
   from
   Michael

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In the last episode (Aug 02), SP Network Solutions said:
> Yes, im aware that it installed in it own folder..
> /usr/local/bin/gcc33
> 
> I've already installed it in my system and tried this;
> /usr/local/bin/gcc33 -v
> 
> it show this:
> gcc version 3.3.4 20040505 (prerelease) [FreeBSD]
> 
> Is this the right one?

Yes.  You can also install the gcc34 port to get a snapshot of what will
become gcc-3.4.2.
 
> and regards to the CC=gcc33 and CXX=g++33
> Can you please give me the command to do this
> If possible, the basic steps to get it done...

If using a Bourne-type shell:

export CC=gcc33
export CXX=g++33

If using a csh-type shell (csh and tcsh are the only ones I know of):

setenv CC gcc33
setenv CXX g++33
 
> my only intention is to get the machine runs with gcc33 and not the
> gcc2.95

With those variables set, anything you compile will be built with gcc33. 
Make sure you unset them before building the kernel or base system.  They
require the system's original gcc.

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	Dan Nelson
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Oryx wrote:

>Hey guys,
>
>I'm having a slight problem with FreeBSD... basically I want my screen
>resolution at 1024x768 and not 800x600 i have a standard internal
>graphics card (came with my pc and its by intel)... I had it working
>before, but i just simply can't remember how I done it... If you could
>help me i'd be very greatfull...
>
>Cheers
>  
>

If it's the Intel i810 chipset, there was a subsection in the
handbook's X windows chapter, IIRC.

What your XF86Config look like?

Kevin Kinsey
DaleCo, S.P.

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On Sat, 31 Jul 2004, Wojciech Puchar wrote:

> how can i allow given group to be able to write cd's?
> 
> in NetBSD doing (assuming group name cdrw)
> 
> chgrp cdrw /dev/rcd0* /dev/cd0*
> chmod 660 /dev/rcd0* /dev/cd0*
> 
> 
> in FreeBSD doing this for /dev/cd0 and /dev/acd0 doesn't work.
> 
> tried to do the same with /dev/xpt0 - doesn't work too.
> 
> is it possible at all?
> _______________________________________________

Hi,

from man cdrecord you will get:

[...]

       If you don't want to  allow  users  to  become  root  on  your  system,
       cdrecord  may safely be installed suid root. This allows all users or a
       group of users with no root privileges to use  cdrecord.   Cdrecord  in
       this  case  checks,  if	the real user would have been able to read the
       specified files.  To give all user access to use cdrecord, enter:

	    chown root /usr/local/bin/cdrecord
	    chmod 4711 /usr/local/bin/cdrecord

       To give a restricted group of users access to cdrecord enter:

	    chown root /usr/local/bin/cdrecord
	    chgrp cdburners /usr/local/bin/cdrecord
	    chmod 4710 /usr/local/bin/cdrecord

       and add a group cdburners on your system.

       Never give write permissions  for  non  root  users  to	the  /dev/scg?
       devices	unless	you  would allow anybody to read/write/format all your
       disks.
[...]

Oliver
-- 
... don't touch the bang bang fruit

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--- Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr> wrote:
> You have lots of old (out of date) packages installed.  Have you gotten
> your FreeBSD workstation to connect to the network yet?  If yes, you can
> install `portupgrade' and use it to update all your packages/ports to
> their latest versions.

Hi Giorgos,

I don't feel safe yet connecting my unsecured box to the net with the 5-10 hits
a minute my W2000 box recieves on my broadband link. I have read the security
section of the manual & would like to get basics working before I rebuild the
kernel to install the firewall(which doesn't seem that easy but I will give it
try)

 
> This is probably not why xfce doesn't work though.  The
> sysutils/xfce4-utils package installs a command called "startxfce4".
> AFAIK, this is the program that fires up xfce.  When you install that
> package (as part of the dependency list of xfce4) you should be able to
> use xfce4 as your desktop by editing your ~/.xinitrc file and making
> sure that the last command it runs is:
> 
> 	exec startxfce4
 
my .xinitrc file contains only the one line:
----------
exec startxfce4
----------

& it still won't start.
As I can't get it to start, I just delete this line using VI(I am getting
better :) & replace it with "exec wmaker" which starts OK.



> > 3)I am trying to install Apachetoolbox-1.5.70(it may well be a
> > BigApache for BSD :)) - but I get the errors "Command not found"
> > trying to run it:
> This is not the proper way to install ports or packages in FreeBSD.
> Please, refer to the Handbook section on ports and packages for details.
> 
> > [snip irrelevant attempts to force bash to do something mysterious]


Apachetoolbox is not an official freeBSD port/package(www.apachetoolbox.com).
Its a script/ports pack that you run which creates all the scripts needed to
install a large array of Apache & other www stuff(eg. MySQL etc).

The install file that comes with it says to install it by running install.sh.

It says(further down) that "BSD users, the script interpreter of install.sh is 
BASH (/bin/bash). - Thats why I started BASH - Do you know what the "bad
interpreter" error means ???

-----------------------
bash-2.05# ./install
bash: ./install: No such file or directory
bash-2.05# ./install.sh
bash: ./install.sh: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
bash-2.05# ./install   
bash: ./install: No such file or directory
----------------------


Apachetoolbox Install File(install.txt)
----------------------------------------------
Install
=-=-=-=

1) as root run ./install.sh
 1a) if you're running the program for the 2nd time and don't want
    to change your options use the -f or --fast switch when running
    install.sh .
2) select what you want to compile into apache
 2a) type "apache" to get to the apache menu as shown in the menu
 2b) type "php" to get to the php menu as shown in the menu
 2c) type "page2" to get to the 2nd modules menu as shown in the menu
3) continue and let it compile by typing 'go'
 3a) if the source is missing it will try to download it
4) cd into the apache_1.3.* source directory
5) run "make" manually to compile apache, watch for errors
6) if everything went ok run "make install" to install/upgrade

******************************************************************************
Solaris/BSD users, the script interpreter of install.sh is BASH (/bin/bash).
Bash should be used, YMMV if you change it to /bin/sh.  The next major release
(2.x) will be in perl.  If your willing to help port it please get a hold of
me.
******************************************************************************
Frontpage 2002 Extentions require precompiled binaries.  So only linux,
freebsd, solaris (sparc and x86) are supported.  The binaries are about 10megs
compressed and only the linux tarball will be added to the script+sources
tarball. http://www.apachetoolbox.com for support and updates.
----------------------------------------------------------



Kind Regards,

DK


		
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I am trying to get CVsup running on 4.10.

The handbook indicates it is easier to 
install the package, so I went to the
package collection and installed
cvsup-16.1h

The package installation seemed to indicate
the target directory was /usr/ports/net/cvsup.
(this was a message asking me to confirm the
installation from /stand/sysinstall)

When I had finished the installation, I could
not run cvsup - command not found.

So I thought maybe I had to install from the
ports collection, so I cd'd to /usr/ports/net/cvsup
and ran Make.  That seemed to go OK.

Then I did a Make Install.  It stops with error
code 1. It says cvsup-16.1h already installed.

I am not sure what I am doing wrong in all this.
Can anyone spot what it is ?

(I realise that I shouldnt normally be installing
from a port just after a package install, but that
was just because I was out of ideas)

Thanks
Peter

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DK wrote:

> 
> Hi Giorgos,
> 
> I don't feel safe yet connecting my unsecured box to the net with the 5-10 hits
> a minute my W2000 box recieves on my broadband link. I have read the security
> section of the manual & would like to get basics working before I rebuild the
> kernel to install the firewall(which doesn't seem that easy but I will give it
> try)


Hey DK,

FreeBSD is much more secure then a clean windows system, though i would 
do the same (since i am very security minded). You can however let your 
windows2k box route the FreeBSD machine to the internet so that it can 
obtain the latest revisions of the ports and sourcetree, as described in 
the handbook.

> 
>  
> 
>>This is probably not why xfce doesn't work though.  The
>>sysutils/xfce4-utils package installs a command called "startxfce4".
>>AFAIK, this is the program that fires up xfce.  When you install that
>>package (as part of the dependency list of xfce4) you should be able to
>>use xfce4 as your desktop by editing your ~/.xinitrc file and making
>>sure that the last command it runs is:
>>
>>	exec startxfce4
> 
>  
> my .xinitrc file contains only the one line:
> ----------
> exec startxfce4
> ----------
> 
> & it still won't start.
> As I can't get it to start, I just delete this line using VI(I am getting
> better :) & replace it with "exec wmaker" which starts OK.

Did you try to execute startxfe4 manually? Is it actually there? isn't 
it a glitch in a old version (Which you seem to refuse to update since 
it's not secure) ? check it out !

> 
> 
> 
> 
>>>3)I am trying to install Apachetoolbox-1.5.70(it may well be a
>>>BigApache for BSD :)) - but I get the errors "Command not found"
>>>trying to run it:
>>
>>This is not the proper way to install ports or packages in FreeBSD.
>>Please, refer to the Handbook section on ports and packages for details.
>>
>>
>>>[snip irrelevant attempts to force bash to do something mysterious]
> 
> 
> 
> Apachetoolbox is not an official freeBSD port/package(www.apachetoolbox.com).
> Its a script/ports pack that you run which creates all the scripts needed to
> install a large array of Apache & other www stuff(eg. MySQL etc).

It's no ports pack, it's a set of scripts, which is not supported by 
FreeBSD, so when there is an leak,  you should find out yourself and 
update it (instead of enable-ing one tiny little feature of the weekly 
scripts (400.status-pkg) which gives you an overview of outdated 
packages) besides that you should install portaudit which daily checks 
whether your applications are vulnerable to known issues.
But that would be your own free choice.

> 
> The install file that comes with it says to install it by running install.sh.
> 
> It says(further down) that "BSD users, the script interpreter of install.sh is 
> BASH (/bin/bash). - Thats why I started BASH - Do you know what the "bad
> interpreter" error means ???

Yes that probably means "I cannot find the /bin/bash shell, so i cannot 
handle your request", why? bash is not installed in /bin/bash but in 
/usr/local/bin/bash, it was displayed when you installed it, you can see 
it in your password entry, and it is listed in /etc/shells...

> 
> -----------------------
> bash-2.05# ./install
> bash: ./install: No such file or directory
> bash-2.05# ./install.sh
> bash: ./install.sh: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
> bash-2.05# ./install   
> bash: ./install: No such file or directory
> ----------------------
> 
> 

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> & it still won't start.
> As I can't get it to start, I just delete this line using VI(I am getting
> better :) 

vi isn't the easiest program to learn and master, but it is available on
pretty much every *nix system in the universe, so time invested is
generally well rewarded not only by gains in productivity, but also by
portability of your skills.

this said, and because i'm convinced that you've given the handbook only
the most cursory of glances (such a good document - shame on you), i
thought it would be worth pointing out that freebsd comes with another
editor in it's base system - ee.  if you're only going to be doing minor
edits here and there, you might consider checking it out.  its learning
curve is not nearly 1/10th as steep as vi's, but then, neither is it nearly
1/10th as powerful.

2 cents.  epi out.

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On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 11:51:30 +0800 (SGT)
Peter Ryan <pryan@singnet.com.sg> wrote:

> I am trying to get CVsup running on 4.10.
> 
> The handbook indicates it is easier to 
> install the package, so I went to the
> package collection and installed
> cvsup-16.1h
> 
> The package installation seemed to indicate
> the target directory was /usr/ports/net/cvsup.
> (this was a message asking me to confirm the
> installation from /stand/sysinstall)
> 
> When I had finished the installation, I could
> not run cvsup - command not found.

when you finish an installation, you'll very often have to issue the
'rehash' command, which tells your csh to reread the $PATH which is set in
your .cshrc

if you didn't do this, you'll probably see the command 'magically' appear
after your next boot or if you open another term and su to root.

you do have to run this command as root, btw.    ;)

> So I thought maybe I had to install from the
> ports collection, so I cd'd to /usr/ports/net/cvsup
> and ran Make.  That seemed to go OK.
> 
> Then I did a Make Install.  It stops with error
> code 1. It says cvsup-16.1h already installed.

try 'pkg_info | grep -i cvsup' to see if you do have the program installed.

and, as root, 'echo $PATH'


> I am not sure what I am doing wrong in all this.
> Can anyone spot what it is ?

my first guess would be the 'rehash'.  further guesses would depend upon
what you get from pkg_info and $PATH.

hth,
epi

> (I realise that I shouldnt normally be installing
> from a port just after a package install, but that
> was just because I was out of ideas)
> 
> Thanks
> Peter
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Hi,

I recently shifted to FreeBSD-5.2 from Windows XP because I know there is a 
bluetooh support in these new 5.x versions. I was so glad that FreeBSD have 
improved a lot! However, I have a problem with installing or making the 
bluetooth file transfer work. Here are the details below:

I followed the documentation by Pav on http://www.oook.cz/bsd/bluetooth.html. 
I was able to pair my Nokia 3660 with my FreeBSD-5.2 which has an MSI 
bluetooth dongle. I was able to discover other devices, and execute other 
built-in commands such as hccontrol, l2ping, l2control, sdptool  etc. But, I 
noticed that the the basic file transfer called OBEX was not yet incorporated 
in the FreeBSD-5.2 and that I have to install an openobex or something. I 
have succesfully installed openobex from sourceforge, but it doesn't have the 
"obexapp" command. The i tried installing the "obexapp" from sourceforge too. 
The problem is that I cant install it.

tar -zxvf obexapp-1.2.tar.gz
(extracts two directories openobex-1.0.1/ and obexapp/)

cd openobex-1.0.1
./configure
/usr/local/bin/make
/usr/local/bin/make install

cd obexapp
(no ./configure and NO README!!!)
so i tried, "make" or "/usr/local/bin/make"
when i tried "make":
banao# make
Warning: Object directory not changed from original /usr/home/misoy/EDV/
Bluetooth/src/obexapp
cc -I/usr/local/include  -I/usr/local/include/openobex -g -Wsystem-headers 
-Werror -Wall -Wno-format-y2k -Wno-uninitialized  -c main.c
cc -I/usr/local/include  -I/usr/local/include/openobex -g -Wsystem-headers 
-Werror -Wall -Wno-format-y2k -Wno-uninitialized  -c client.c
cc -I/usr/local/include  -I/usr/local/include/openobex -g -Wsystem-headers 
-Werror -Wall -Wno-format-y2k -Wno-uninitialized  -c event.c
cc -I/usr/local/include  -I/usr/local/include/openobex -g -Wsystem-headers 
-Werror -Wall -Wno-format-y2k -Wno-uninitialized  -c sdp.c
cc -I/usr/local/include  -I/usr/local/include/openobex -g -Wsystem-headers 
-Werror -Wall -Wno-format-y2k -Wno-uninitialized  -c server.c
server.c: In function `obexapp_server':
server.c:118: error: too many arguments to function `sdp_open_local'
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/home/misoy/EDV/Bluetooth/src/obexapp.

using /usr/local/bin/make:
banao# /usr/local/bin/make
Makefile:23: *** missing separator.  Stop.

-Edwin

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On Sun, Aug 01, 2004 at 06:29:58PM -0500, Josh Paetzel wrote:

[...]
> #ifndef lint
> #if 0
> static char sccsid[] = "@(#)cat.c       8.2 (Berkeley) 4/27/95";
> #endif
> #endif /* not lint */
> #include <sys/cdefs.h>
> __FBSDID("$FreeBSD: src/bin/cat/cat.c,v 1.29 2003/04/30 17:40:28 
> obrien Exp $");
> 
> 1) Isn't 'if 0' always negative?

Yes. The "#if 0" is a common way of blocking out code that you
don't/can't want to remove.
-- 
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> On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 11:51:30 +0800 (SGT)
> Peter Ryan <pryan@singnet.com.sg> wrote:
> 
> > I am trying to get CVsup running on 4.10.
> > 
> > The handbook indicates it is easier to 
> > install the package, so I went to the
> > package collection and installed
> > cvsup-16.1h
> > 
> > The package installation seemed to indicate
> > the target directory was /usr/ports/net/cvsup.
> > (this was a message asking me to confirm the
> > installation from /stand/sysinstall)
> > 
> > When I had finished the installation, I could
> > not run cvsup - command not found.
> 
> when you finish an installation, you'll very often
> have to issue the 'rehash' command, which 
> tells your csh to reread the $PATH which is
> set in your .cshrc
> 
> if you didn't do this, you'll probably see the 
> command 'magically' appear after your next boot 
> or if you open another term and su to root.

Thanks for waving the wand... it did magically appear!!

Regards
Peter

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4.10 release, installing from CDs.
I initially tried an upgrade from 4.5, which failed (same problem
with XFree86 detailed below), so I did an install over the top
without X.

I'm now trying to install XFree86 from the ports collection.
When I attempt to make XFree86-4-libraries,
it fails building fontconfig:

fc-cache: "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1:" /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: 
/usr/X11R6/lib/libfontconfig.so.1: Undefined symbol "FT_Get_BDF_Property"
*** Error code 1

Any hints as to what's going on and how to fix / get around it?

I've done a
   portupgrade -fFRNuv x11-fonts/fontconfig
   make
   make install (fails)
The error above occurs on the make install

The dependencies I have installed are:
   expat-1.95.7
   freetype2-2.1.7_3
   gettext-0.13.1_1
   gmake-3.80_2
   libtool-1.3.4_2
   libtool-1.3.5_2
   pkgconfig-0.15.0_1

Thanks for any insights.

Gary

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Sylvia bowman wrote:

> I am receiving your email address on my television screen.  It happens
> late on Saturday evenings.  Can you address this situation, please. 

> Sylvia Bowman

Come on now, Sylvia - I think you know how this situation should be addressed.

Jay

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hi,
=20
it's impossible for me to do irc resuming through may freebsd gateway.
i was on freebsd 4.7 and i am now on freebsd 5.2.1 current and the
problem persists on both versions.
=20
someone have a good way to do irc resuming?
=20
here is my natd.conf :
log yes
log_denied yes
use_sockets yes
same_ports yes
interface xl0
punch_fw 10000:20
log_ipfw_denied yes
=20
i use ipfw
if my other computer is connected directly on internet, it have no
problem.
=20
Thanks
c=E9drick

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Hi!

I try to install 4.10 on headless PC(without a monitor and vga output)
So I've used my laptop as a serial console (via null modem cable).
All was wonderfull, but after end of install procedure und reboot,
I see with this terminal (cu -l /dev/cuaa0) all and the date for
the login line. But not the login prompt. So I can't to log in and
do anything.
What have I to do, to log in this headless PC?
Another terminal may be?

Thanks in advance.

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On Sun, Aug 01, 2004 at 03:24:12PM -0500, Comrade Burnout wrote:

> when i try to use pkg_add ... i get the following:
>=20
> burnt# pkg_add -r pear-DB
> Fetching=20
> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5.2.1-release/Lates=
t/pear-DB.tbz...=20
> Done.
> Fetching=20
> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5.2.1-release/All/p=
hp4-4.3.4_2.tbz...=20
> Done.
> pkg_add: package 'php4-4.3.4_2' conflicts with mod_php4-4.3.4_2,1
> pkg_add: please use pkg_delete first to remove conflicting package(s) or=
=20
> -f to force installation
> pkg_add: pkg_add of dependency 'php4-4.3.4_2' failed!
>=20
>=20
>=20
> is there a way to tweak the Makefile locally to force the PEAR install=20
> to use the existing PHP version?

What Makefile? You're installing via packages, and by the time the
package has been built, there's no more need for Makefiles...

In order to solve your problem, you can follow the instructions so
helpfully printed out by pkg_add(1) and use the '-f' flag.  That
should work fine, as mod_php4 will fulfil the dependencies.

Alternately, don't use packages to install PEAR modules.  Ports are
rather more flexible in this respect than packages, and for such
things as PEAR where what's installed is pretty much program source
code it makes little practical difference.

The only problem with this approach is that you seem to be using a
ports tree from around the time of 5.2.1-RELEASE, and since then both
the ports tree and the available versions of the PEAR modules have had
many months of further development.  It's possible that new versions
of some modules will have been released and the ones you want have
been removed.

But the answer to that is just a cvsup(1) away.
=20
	Cheers,

	Matthew

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On Sun, Aug 01, 2004 at 05:30:36PM -0300, Paulo Fonseca Jr. wrote:
> I was installed apsfilter with lpd here with printcap setting as:
>=20
> lp|deskjet;r=3D300x300;q=3Ddraft;c=3Dfull;p=3Dletter;m=3Dauto:\
>     :lp=3D/dev/ulpt0:\
>     :if=3D/usr/local/etc/apsfilter/basedir/bin/apsfilter:\
>     :sd=3D/var/spool/lpd/lp:\
>     :lf=3D/var/spool/lpd/lp/log:\
>     :af=3D/var/spool/lpd/lp/acct:\
>     :mx#0:\
>     :sh:
>=20
> /dev/ulpt0 is recognized by usbdevs and jobs are being queued but printer=
 not=20
> works, not even sign, but job are being unqueued after about few seconds.
>=20
> (dmesg)
> ulpt0: hp deskjet 3420, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 2, iclass 7/1
> ulpt0: using bi-directional mode

What's the output of:

    % lpc status lp

and are there any messages from lpd in the system log file,
/var/log/messages or the lpd error log /var/log/lpd-errs or the
printer's own log file /var/spool/lpd/lp/log ?

	Cheers,

	Matthew

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On Mon, Aug 02, 2004 at 12:43:54AM +0200, dick hoogendijk wrote:
> Usely I do something like this:
>=20
> # cd /root
> # cvsup -g -L 2 /root/ports.supfile
> # cd /usr/ports
> # make index
> # portsdb -u
>=20
> It always worked like a charm.. But this night after cvsup and a 'make
> index' I ran portsdb -u and almost every portentry was deleted because
> some error about 10 fieldnames needed ???? The result was that almost
> every portname became unknown to portupgrade..
> I ran make index a second and a third time with the same results.. Can't
> figure out what's wrong all of a sudden..
>=20
> I "fixed it" running "portsdb -Uu" --> this resulted in a good
> /usr/ports/INDEX and a good index.db file.
>=20
> Any ideas why the "make index" stopped working?

See the thread starting with:

    http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2004-June/013462.html
=20
This change went in at the time without many noticable problems.  It
seems that you've got the latest bsd.ports.mk with the expanded INDEX
format, but an older version of portupgrade which doesn't understand
the new style.  Upgrade your portupgrade to the latest, and all should
be well:

    % pkg_info -I portupgrade\*
    portupgrade-20040701_3 FreeBSD ports/packages administration and manage=
ment tools

	Cheers,

	Matthew

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On Mon, Aug 02, 2004 at 01:21:31PM +0800, Edwin D. Vinas wrote:

> I was able to pair my Nokia 3660 with my FreeBSD-5.2 which has an MSI=20
> bluetooth dongle. I was able to discover other devices, and execute other=
=20
> built-in commands such as hccontrol, l2ping, l2control, sdptool  etc. But=
, I=20
> noticed that the the basic file transfer called OBEX was not yet incorpor=
ated=20
> in the FreeBSD-5.2 and that I have to install an openobex or something. I=
=20
> have succesfully installed openobex from sourceforge, but it doesn't have=
 the=20
> "obexapp" command. The i tried installing the "obexapp" from sourceforge =
too.=20
> The problem is that I cant install it.
>=20
> tar -zxvf obexapp-1.2.tar.gz
> (extracts two directories openobex-1.0.1/ and obexapp/)

[...]

Instead of trying to fix the compilation yourself, you can leverage
the work of those who have gone before you by installing the
comms/openobex port.  In fact, with this software I think that some
quite significant patching of code is required:

    % cd /usr/ports/comms/openobex
    % ls files/
    patch-Makefile.in               patch-src-obex.c
    patch-aclocal.m4                patch-src-obex.h
    patch-configure.in              patch-src-obex_const.h
    patch-ltmain.sh                 patch-src-obex_main.c
    patch-src-btobex.c              patch-src-obex_transport.h
    patch-src-netbuf.h

	Cheers,

	Matthew

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On 2004-08-01 20:33, DK <asdzxc111@yahoo.com> wrote:
> --- Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr> wrote:
> > You have lots of old (out of date) packages installed.  Have you
> > gotten your FreeBSD workstation to connect to the network yet?  If
> > yes, you can install `portupgrade' and use it to update all your
> > packages/ports to their latest versions.
>
> I don't feel safe yet connecting my unsecured box to the net with
> the 5-10 hits a minute my W2000 box recieves on my broadband link. I
> have read the security section of the manual & would like to get
> basics working before I rebuild the kernel to install the
> firewall(which doesn't seem that easy but I will give it try)

The average FreeBSD system is vastly more secure than Windows workstations
even without a firewall.  You shouldn't worry too much about those Windows
viruses trying to connect to your workstation, since they expect to find
Windows-specific services/programs and will most certainly fail miserably
when they hit a BSD machine.

Bearing this in mind you might, of course, find it a bit more reassuring to
run a firewall like IPFW.  But this doesn't *require* a kernel recompile.
You can simply load the ipfw.ko module with kldload(8) and immediatelly
start setting up the rules of your firewall ruleset.  As root, you can load
the ipfw module by:

	# kldload ipfw

The default set of firewall packet inspection rules that ipfw loads will
block *EVERYTHING* so you might want to do a bit of research on the
available rulesets by reading about rc.firewall, rc.conf and/or browse the
contents of the /etc/defaults/rc.conf file:

	# man rc.firewall
	# man rc.conf
	# more /etc/defaults/rc.conf


For details about the way the rules can be written, the ipfw manpage can
provide useful information.

	# man ipfw

Browsing the archives of this list for discussions about IPFW rulesets is
also a good idea as a lot of people have posted questions on this topic and
have received many helpful answers from knowledgeable list members.

> > This is probably not why xfce doesn't work though.  The
> > sysutils/xfce4-utils package installs a command called "startxfce4".
> > AFAIK, this is the program that fires up xfce.  When you install that
> > package (as part of the dependency list of xfce4) you should be able to
> > use xfce4 as your desktop by editing your ~/.xinitrc file and making
> > sure that the last command it runs is:
> >
> > 	exec startxfce4
>
> my .xinitrc file contains only the one line:
> ----------
> exec startxfce4
> ----------
>
> & it still won't start.

Does the program `startxfce4' even exist on your system?  As I mentioned,
it's part of the sysutils/xfce4-utils package, so if you didn't install
that package you won't have it.

> As I can't get it to start, I just delete this line using VI(I am getting
> better :) & replace it with "exec wmaker" which starts OK.

Heh.  Cool :)

I prefer Emacs most of the time, but that's clearly a matter of personal
taste so it doesn't matter so much.

> Apachetoolbox is not an official freeBSD port/package (www.apachetoolbox.com).
> Its a script/ports pack that you run which creates all the scripts needed
> to install a large array of Apache & other www stuff(eg. MySQL etc).
>
> The install file that comes with it says to install it by running
> install.sh.
>
> It says(further down) that "BSD users, the script interpreter of
> install.sh is BASH (/bin/bash). - Thats why I started BASH - Do you know
> what the "bad interpreter" error means ???
>
> -----------------------
> bash-2.05# ./install
> bash: ./install: No such file or directory
> bash-2.05# ./install.sh
> bash: ./install.sh: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
> bash-2.05# ./install 
> bash: ./install: No such file or directory
> ----------------------

The "bad intepreter" error means that the `install.sh' script (most likely)
starts with a line like this:

	#!/bin/bash

This is a special, somewhat "magic" line that, when present at the start of
an executable file, instructs the UNIX kernel to fire up the program
following "#!" and pass the rest of the script as input to this program.
The program is then responsible to "interpret" the script as it sees fit.

In this case, the program /bin/bash does not exist, because on FreeBSD bash
is installed as /usr/local/bin/bash and not in /bin.  The author of this
program is most likely a Linux fan and has become accustomed to the
Linuxism of expecting that bash is always in /bin :-)

Edit `install.sh' and replace `/bin/bash' with `/usr/local/bin/bash' if you
have bash installed.  As the author of the package has noted below if you
don't have bash and the script doesn't use some feature that is
bash-specific, you might get away with /bin/sh instead of /bin/bash but
this depends on the way the install script is written.

> ******************************************************************************
> Solaris/BSD users, the script interpreter of install.sh is BASH (/bin/bash).
> Bash should be used, YMMV if you change it to /bin/sh.  The next major
> release (2.x) will be in perl.  If your willing to help port it please
> get a hold of me.

Cheers,

Giorgos

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Hi,

Central management of our servers runs under HP SIM (HP Systems
Insight Manager), formerly known as CIM (Compaq Insight Manager). HP
on its website says it's supported for Windoze, HP-UX and Linux.

Has anybody out there got this software running under FreeBSD
(possibly using Linux emulation)?

Thanks much in advance for any clue,
-ewald


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On Monday 02 August 2004 03:40 pm, you wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 02, 2004 at 01:21:31PM +0800, Edwin D. Vinas wrote:
> > I was able to pair my Nokia 3660 with my FreeBSD-5.2 which has an MSI
> > bluetooth dongle. I was able to discover other devices, and execute other
> > built-in commands such as hccontrol, l2ping, l2control, sdptool  etc.
> > But, I noticed that the the basic file transfer called OBEX was not yet
> > incorporated in the FreeBSD-5.2 and that I have to install an openobex or
> > something. I have succesfully installed openobex from sourceforge, but it
> > doesn't have the "obexapp" command. The i tried installing the "obexapp"
> > from sourceforge too. The problem is that I cant install it.
> >
> > tar -zxvf obexapp-1.2.tar.gz
> > (extracts two directories openobex-1.0.1/ and obexapp/)
>
> [...]
>
> Instead of trying to fix the compilation yourself, you can leverage
> the work of those who have gone before you by installing the
> comms/openobex port.  In fact, with this software I think that some
> quite significant patching of code is required:
>
>     % cd /usr/ports/comms/openobex
>     % ls files/
>     patch-Makefile.in               patch-src-obex.c
>     patch-aclocal.m4                patch-src-obex.h
>     patch-configure.in              patch-src-obex_const.h
>     patch-ltmain.sh                 patch-src-obex_main.c
>     patch-src-btobex.c              patch-src-obex_transport.h
>     patch-src-netbuf.h
>

Thanks Matthew for the reply. But, its sad to say that I can't find any 
"openobex" ports in my machine.

banao# ls /usr/ports/comms/openobex
ls: /usr/ports/comms/openobex: No such file or directory

I thought of actually using this openobex port but do you know how to find the 
ports if its not in the distribution? Im using FreeBSD-5.2 and KDE 3.0. Im 
actually searching the web for it but some sites dont have a link to the 
files to be downloaded. In case you know where to find the installer that 
would really work for FreeBSD-5.2, please send the link to me.

Thanks again!
-edwin


> 	Cheers,
>
> 	Matthew

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Hi,

For a HP Compaq Proliant DL360 I'm looking for the SNMP-MIBs that
cover the following items:

o) Disk-IO
o) Disk-usage (capacity used)
o) Memory usage
o) Compaq/HP Smartarray (Compaq Smart Array 5i), esp. disk failure etc.
o) CPU Usage (two Xeons running SMP (hyperthreading to 4 virtual CPUs)
o) Network-IO

Does anybody know where I can get hold of the respective MIBs? 

Somewhat related to the above question: Is it possible to make the
respective MIB variables available via net-snmp in order to either
poll them (snmp read) or send traps when reaching certain thresholds?
I esp. thought about sending traps when e.g. the smartarray reports a
problem, disks become full etc.

TIA for your help,
-ewald

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Maksym Marchenko wrote:

> Hi!
>
> I try to install 4.10 on headless PC(without a monitor and vga output)
> So I've used my laptop as a serial console (via null modem cable).
> All was wonderfull, but after end of install procedure und reboot,
> I see with this terminal (cu -l /dev/cuaa0) all and the date for
> the login line. But not the login prompt. So I can't to log in and
> do anything.
> What have I to do, to log in this headless PC?

Maksym, you need to start a getty process on the serial line,
by editing /etc/ttys like this:


console none                            unknown off secure
ttyv0   "/usr/libexec/getty Pc"         cons25  off  secure
ttyv1   "/usr/libexec/getty Pc"         cons25  off  secure
ttyv2   "/usr/libexec/getty Pc"         cons25  off  secure
ttyv3   "/usr/libexec/getty Pc"         cons25  off  secure
ttyv4   "/usr/libexec/getty Pc"         cons25  off  secure
ttyv5   "/usr/libexec/getty Pc"         cons25  off  secure
ttyv6   "/usr/libexec/getty Pc"         cons25  off  secure
ttyv7   "/usr/libexec/getty Pc"         cons25  off  secure
ttyd0   "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600"   dialup  on secure
ttyd1   "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600"   dialup  off secure
ttyd2   "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600"   dialup  off secure
ttyd3   "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600"   dialup  off secure

In /stand/sysinstall (or /usr/sbin/sysinstall), you can edit
ttys.

I'm running 5.2-CURRENT on net4801 Soekris hardware, and this
is exaclty what is needed to get login prompt on the serial
console.

Good luck!

cpghost.

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Comrade Burnout wrote:

> i recently upgraded some machines to FreeBSD 5.2.1-STABLE, and trying 
> to install the PEAR objects (PHP stuff).
>
> I've looked through the INDEX file in my local ports collection, and 
> the PEAR tree is looking for:
>
> php4-4.3.4
> whereas mod_php4 and any of the other (non-PEAR ) PHP ports are 
> looking for:
>
> mod_php4-4.3.4,1
>
PEAR needs a command line PHP binary to be able to run. The mod_php4 
package only installs an Apache module and not the commandline PHP binary.
 Thus PEAR would be unuseable. The upside, is that the php4 package 
includes the command line binary, an Apache module and the CGI executable.

Cheers

Philip

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Hi all,

We have many Mysql's running here, and just to tell you, there
are fixes/workarounds for the behaviour you see:

FreeBSD 4.8 / 4.9 / 4.10 :
--------------------------

Compile port with WITH_LINUXTHREADS=YES or remove tcpwrappers
support manually from the build if it hangs with libc_r. Use IP adresses for
master/slave configurations in my.cnf. On problem here is that getnamebyhost()
is not threadsafe. This produces the strange errors you see.

We run all mysqld without tcpwrappers support and do not have any
hangs anymore.

FreeBSD 5.2.1
-------------

You have to use libc_r.so libpthreads.so hangs occasionally

FreeBSD Current
---------------

You can use libpthrads.so or libc_r.so

Martin

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On Mon, Aug 02, 2004 at 06:04:14PM +0800, Edwin D. Vinas wrote:
=20
> Thanks Matthew for the reply. But, its sad to say that I can't find any=
=20
> "openobex" ports in my machine.
>=20
> banao# ls /usr/ports/comms/openobex
> ls: /usr/ports/comms/openobex: No such file or directory
>=20
> I thought of actually using this openobex port but do you know how to fin=
d the=20
> ports if its not in the distribution? Im using FreeBSD-5.2 and KDE 3.0. I=
m=20
> actually searching the web for it but some sites dont have a link to the=
=20
> files to be downloaded. In case you know where to find the installer that=
=20
> would really work for FreeBSD-5.2, please send the link to me.
>

You have an out of date ports tree: openobex has been in ports for
some 4 months now:

    http://www.freebsd.org/ports/comms.html#openobex-1.0.1

You're also running a deprecated version of FreeBSD -- there were some
serious bugs in version 5.2 which necessitated the release of 5.2.1
shortly afterwards.

I advise you to install cvsup --

    # pkg_add -r cvsup-without-gui

and then use that to get an up to date copy of the ports tree.  While
you're at it, also install portupgrade(1) as that will make
maintaining your installed ports into a doddle.

Instructions from the Handbook are here:

    http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports-using.h=
tml
    http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html

and a series of articles which give some very useful hints and tips
are here:

    http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/08/07/FreeBSD_Basics.html
    http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/08/28/FreeBSD_Basics.html
    http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/09/18/FreeBSD_Basics.html

	Cheers,

	Matthew

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Dear list,

I try to do the following, as per the ipfw2 manual for FreeBSD 4.9R-p3:

    ipfw add deny ip from any to any not verrevpath in

And I get the following error:

    ipfw: unknown argument ``not''

What could be the cause of that?

Thanks,

- Mark

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On Mon, 2 Aug 2004, Martin Blapp wrote:

> 
> Hi all,
> 
> We have many Mysql's running here, and just to tell you, there
> are fixes/workarounds for the behaviour you see:
> 
> FreeBSD 4.8 / 4.9 / 4.10 :
> --------------------------
> 
> Compile port with WITH_LINUXTHREADS=YES or remove tcpwrappers
> support manually from the build if it hangs with libc_r. Use IP adresses for
> master/slave configurations in my.cnf. On problem here is that getnamebyhost()
> is not threadsafe. This produces the strange errors you see.

Isn't tcpwrappers support broken due to gcc compile options?
Or was that only in -current?

-- 
Dan Eischen

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I have it working thanks to the port maintainer... Basically
it builds and installs fine. Those error messages are a part
of libtool and can be ignored. Now I wonder why that isn't=20
just patched like so many other ports are to eliminate those
messages since .la are not used to avoid people asking or posting
about that problem.

Jeff=20

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alexander Liebau [mailto:beisser@lefti.net]=20
> Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 6:39 PM
> To: Josh Paetzel
> Cc: Jeffrey Wheat; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: AW: Apache 2.0.50 port is busted
>=20
> but why do some ppl have problems compiling apache on a fresh=20
> install? kinda weird isnt it?
>=20
> -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Josh Paetzel [mailto:friar_josh@tcbug.org]
> Gesendet: Samstag, 31. Juli 2004 00:33
> An: Alexander Liebau
> Cc: Jeffrey Wheat; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Betreff: Re: Apache 2.0.50 port is busted
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>=20
> On Fri, Jul 30, 2004 at 11:45:55PM +0200, Alexander Liebau wrote:
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> was able to
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> > Betreff: Apache 2.0.50 port is busted
> >
> >
> > Has anyone else attempted to build the apache-2.0.50 port=20
> from cvs'd=20
> > port tree a couple hours ago? I am trying to build this on a 5.2.1=20
> > (i386) box and it looks like the libtool bug is as present as ever:
> >
>=20
> =3D=3D=3D>   Compressing manual pages for apache-2.0.50
> =3D=3D=3D>   Registering installation for apache-2.0.50
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I have an old IBM Aptiva with a Rage Pro video card. What video driver
do I use for this card? I am using XF86.

Thanks

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well for me those errors cant be ignored because it doesnt install all the
.so-files (due to these errors). apache wont start unless i comment out ALL
.so in the config-file :(

-----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
Von: Jeffrey Wheat [mailto:jeff@cetlink.net]
Gesendet: Montag, 2. August 2004 15:14
An: Alexander Liebau; Josh Paetzel
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Betreff: RE: Apache 2.0.50 port is busted


I have it working thanks to the port maintainer... Basically
it builds and installs fine. Those error messages are a part
of libtool and can be ignored. Now I wonder why that isn't
just patched like so many other ports are to eliminate those
messages since .la are not used to avoid people asking or posting
about that problem.

Jeff

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alexander Liebau [mailto:beisser@lefti.net]
> Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 6:39 PM
> To: Josh Paetzel
> Cc: Jeffrey Wheat; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: AW: Apache 2.0.50 port is busted
>
> but why do some ppl have problems compiling apache on a fresh
> install? kinda weird isnt it?
>
> -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Josh Paetzel [mailto:friar_josh@tcbug.org]
> Gesendet: Samstag, 31. Juli 2004 00:33
> An: Alexander Liebau
> Cc: Jeffrey Wheat; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Betreff: Re: Apache 2.0.50 port is busted
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 30, 2004 at 11:45:55PM +0200, Alexander Liebau wrote:
> > i had the same problem, asked the same questions and noone
> was able to
> help
> > :/
> >
> > -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]Im Auftrag von Jeffrey
> > Wheat
> > Gesendet: Freitag, 30. Juli 2004 23:31
> > An: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > Betreff: Apache 2.0.50 port is busted
> >
> >
> > Has anyone else attempted to build the apache-2.0.50 port
> from cvs'd
> > port tree a couple hours ago? I am trying to build this on a 5.2.1
> > (i386) box and it looks like the libtool bug is as present as ever:
> >
>
> ===>   Compressing manual pages for apache-2.0.50
> ===>   Registering installation for apache-2.0.50
>
>
> Josh Paetzel
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On Monday 02 August 2004 15:23, Bruce wrote:
> I have an old IBM Aptiva with a Rage Pro video card. What video driver
> do I use for this card? I am using XF86.
>
> Thanks

# XFree86 -configure

This will let XFree86 probe automatically for your hardware. If it was=20
successful then type this:

# XFree86 -xf86config /root/XF86Config.new

If X starts (note there will be no windows open), use CTRL-ALT-backspace to=
 go=20
back to the command shell. After that type this:

# cp /root/XF86Config /etc/X11/XF86Config

NOFI, but don't you think you could have found that out yourself with Googl=
e's=20
help?

Cheers,

Jorn

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   Matthew Seaman wrote:

On Sun, Aug 01, 2004 at 03:24:12PM -0500, Comrade Burnout wrote:

  

when i try to use pkg_add ... i get the following:

burnt# pkg_add -r pear-DB
Fetching 
[1]ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5.2.1-release/Latest/p
ear-DB.tbz...
Done.
Fetching
[2]ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5.2.1-release/All/php4
-4.3.4_2.tbz...
Done.
pkg_add: package 'php4-4.3.4_2' conflicts with mod_php4-4.3.4_2,1
pkg_add: please use pkg_delete first to remove conflicting package(s) or
-f to force installation
pkg_add: pkg_add of dependency 'php4-4.3.4_2' failed!


is there a way to tweak the Makefile locally to force the PEAR install
to use the existing PHP version?


What Makefile? You're installing via packages, and by the time the
package has been built, there's no more need for Makefiles...


   OK, that's just my misunderstanding about ports vs anything else

In order to solve your problem, you can follow the instructions so
helpfully printed out by pkg_add(1) and use the '-f' flag.  That
should work fine, as mod_php4 will fulfil the dependencies.


   well, i thought so originally, but there was always some flavor of
   conflict.

But the answer to that is just a cvsup(1) away.


   i've already installed cvsup, and supposedly pulled down the ports
   collection, but .... it doesn't seem that anything is local, even
   after running cvsup.
   i broke down and installed the PEAR stuff manually ... it did the job,
   but isn't necessarily the optimum solution.

References

   1. ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5.2.1-release/Latest/pear-DB.tbz
   2. ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5.2.1-release/All/php4-4.3.4_2.tbz

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Philip Murray wrote:

> Comrade Burnout wrote:
>
>> i recently upgraded some machines to FreeBSD 5.2.1-STABLE, and trying 
>> to install the PEAR objects (PHP stuff).
>>
>> I've looked through the INDEX file in my local ports collection, and 
>> the PEAR tree is looking for:
>>
>> php4-4.3.4
>> whereas mod_php4 and any of the other (non-PEAR ) PHP ports are 
>> looking for:
>>
>> mod_php4-4.3.4,1
>>
> PEAR needs a command line PHP binary to be able to run. The mod_php4 
> package only installs an Apache module and not the commandline PHP 
> binary.
> Thus PEAR would be unuseable. The upside, is that the php4 package 
> includes the command line binary, an Apache module and the CGI 
> executable.

well, i did say "and others".  i had the php4 package installed, but 
there were other conflicts (that i don't remember at the moment -- the 
original problem was making sure the mysql-client libs were in synch 
with the mysql server i'm using.  i tried to go up to mysql-4.1, but the 
packages for mod_php, php, etc. have a dependency listed for the 
'earlier' release of mysql )


>
> Cheers
>
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On Jul 28, 2004, at 6:58 PM, Tom Limoncelli wrote:

> The instructions for ports/mail/imap-uw tell you that "make cert" 
> generates certs that are self-signed and warns you that it is better 
> to get "real" certs but doesn't explain how to do that.  Any 
> suggestions?

Thanks to Simon J. Oliver for the answer.

The .csr isn't generated.  Here's a patch for the Makefile (submitted 
to the port maintainer) to generate the file.  Or you can manually do:
	cd /usr/local/certs
	openssl x509 -x509toreq -in imapd.pem -signkey imapd.pem -out imapd.csr
The imapd.csr file is the data that gets submitted to the signing 
authority.

--Tom


*** /usr/ports/mail/imap-uw/Makefile.ORIG       Sun Aug  1 21:07:54 2004
--- /usr/ports/mail/imap-uw/Makefile    Sun Aug  1 21:43:26 2004
***************
*** 113,119 ****
--- 113,123 ----
         @${INSTALL} -d -o root -g wheel -m 0755 ${PREFIX}/certs
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On Sat, 31 Jul 2004, adp wrote:

> I recently posted the following message to MySQL discussion list. The
> response there, and the one I keep finding on Google, is that this is a
> long-standing issue betweeen FreeBSD and MySQL. For me this has been
> happening since FreeBSD 4.4.

I had that problem a couple of years ago and resolved it on a box that's
still in use.  Very heavily loaded machine, 15 GB database, over 300
million rows in one table.  I couldn't find notes on it, however, and
don't recall exactly what it was.

One thing it might have been - did you change the HZ value in your kernel
conf file, perhaps for device polling?  I ran into problems on this
machine when setting HZ above 500 but don't recall for sure it was mysql
problems.

I'm happy to share the mysql build and conf files, and the kernel conf
file if you think it would help.  I think it was a kernel tweak that
solved the problem.

HTH,

--- David

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Hello all.

I want to watch video films in console using MPlayer or other video =
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What does mean Framebuffer and can it decide my problem?

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Hello list, 

FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE, using ripit.pl (audio/ripit) with lame and dagrab.

I've got a (quite simple?) question which keeps me up at nights (not
really :-). 

How do you rip those audio CDs that are "enhanced"? That's the CDs 
that have such fancy "multimedia" features you can use when you put 
the CD in a CD-ROM drive (under Windows of course), eg play some 
low-quality music video or navigate around some menus. I am of course
not interested in any of those features, just want to make some MP3s
from that CD so I can put them on my MP3 player.

Here's the problem I have with every CD of that kind: I can rip every 
audio track except the last one, that is the track that comes before 
the data track on the CD, eg:

Track 01: audio 
.
.
.
Track 09: audio 
Track 10: data 

An example of such a CD is the "Rock in Rio" album by Iron Maiden.

Ripping track 09 from the CD fails, no matter what ripper I use
(dagrab, dd, cdparanoia, cdda2wav). Unfortunately I can't reproduce any
error messages at the moment, but maybe someone knows what I mean? It
basically stops reading after about 90% of the track and exists with an
error message. Note: ripping and encoding normal CDs works like a
charme, from the first to the last track.

Using a Windows machine to rip an "enhanced" CD works of course, but 
I should be really surprised if such a task was impossible under
FreeBSD.

Does anybody have an idea? I'd appreciate any help.

Thanks in advance.
-- 
Andreas "daff" Ntaflos | "A cynic is a man who knows the price of
daff AT dword DOT org  | everything, and the value of nothing."
Vienna, AUSTRIA        |                              Oscar Wilde

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> 
> I've been muddling through some of the source files for FreeBSD 
> 5.2.1-RELEASE, and I've noticed that a large number of .c files 
> in /usr/src have something similar to below in them:
> 
> #ifndef lint
> #if 0
> static char sccsid[] = "@(#)cat.c       8.2 (Berkeley) 4/27/95";
> #endif
> #endif /* not lint */
> #include <sys/cdefs.h>
> __FBSDID("$FreeBSD: src/bin/cat/cat.c,v 1.29 2003/04/30 17:40:28 
> obrien Exp $");
> 
> 1) Isn't 'if 0' always negative?

In a boolean usage like above, yes.   Anyway, FALSE usually gets
defined to be 0.   So, the above piece of code is disabled - sort
of commented out, so to speak.

> 2) What is the __FBSDID line doing?

Looks like it sets or checks some version information.  Guess I could 
look it up, but then, so could you.

////jerry

> 
> -- 
> Thanks,
> 
> Josh Paetzel
> _______________________________________________

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I'm migrating to 5.2.1 from 4.9 & found out 5-kernel pcm(4) driver doesn't
work for my RTA3000 soundcard (while 4.9 pcm(4) worked ok). I've done some
tests & found that

1) pcm & sbc 're normally found at kernel startup
2) writing garbage to /dev/dsp really produces sound
3) amp & xmms (tested 4.9/5.2.1 bin packages + 5.2.1 build-from-src versions
for both apps) hang up trying to flush sound buffer
4) simple debugging shows they end up at write() to /dev/dsp (e.g. enter it
& hang up there).

Again, pmc(4)/4.9 kernel worked ok for this soundcard. Has anyone have such
a problem or does anyone know solution?

--------------
Regards, Mirya

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On Mon, Aug 02, 2004 at 10:47:15AM -0400, Ada Cheng wrote:
> You can just specify the tracks to be ripped using cdda2wav with -t,
> thereby skipping the multimedia track.
 
Thanks for your reply!

I already tried that (although stupid me forgot to mention that in the
original post), and various combinations of individual tracks and track
ranges, to no avail. It does not fail trying to rip the data track, it
fails during the last *audio* track, no matter what I do.

Although if you speak from experience and have succeeded ripping
enhanced CDs that way (-t switch) then my problem must lie somewhere
else, or I didn't try hard enough.

> On Mon, 2 Aug 2004, Andreas Ntaflos wrote:
> 
> > Hello list,
> >
> > FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE, using ripit.pl (audio/ripit) with lame and dagrab.
> >
> > I've got a (quite simple?) question which keeps me up at nights (not
> > really :-).
> >
> > How do you rip those audio CDs that are "enhanced"? That's the CDs
> > that have such fancy "multimedia" features you can use when you put
> > the CD in a CD-ROM drive (under Windows of course), eg play some
> > low-quality music video or navigate around some menus. I am of course
> > not interested in any of those features, just want to make some MP3s
> > from that CD so I can put them on my MP3 player.
> >
> > Here's the problem I have with every CD of that kind: I can rip every
> > audio track except the last one, that is the track that comes before
> > the data track on the CD, eg:
> >
> > Track 01: audio
> > .
> > .
> > .
> > Track 09: audio
> > Track 10: data
> >
> > An example of such a CD is the "Rock in Rio" album by Iron Maiden.
> >
> > Ripping track 09 from the CD fails, no matter what ripper I use
> > (dagrab, dd, cdparanoia, cdda2wav). Unfortunately I can't reproduce any
> > error messages at the moment, but maybe someone knows what I mean? It
> > basically stops reading after about 90% of the track and exists with an
> > error message. Note: ripping and encoding normal CDs works like a
> > charme, from the first to the last track.
> >
> > Using a Windows machine to rip an "enhanced" CD works of course, but
> > I should be really surprised if such a task was impossible under
> > FreeBSD.
> >
> > Does anybody have an idea? I'd appreciate any help.
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> > --
> > Andreas "daff" Ntaflos | "A cynic is a man who knows the price of
> > daff AT dword DOT org  | everything, and the value of nothing."
> > Vienna, AUSTRIA        |                              Oscar Wilde
> > _______________________________________________
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-- 
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daff AT dword DOT org  | everything, and the value of nothing."
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My nearly-eight-year-old son has taken a renewed interest in playing
chess, and is also getting his father somewhat inspired as well. A few
years ago when he was first interested, I had an old Mac that I ran
MacChess on. It was perfect for a five-year-old because you could set it
to make completely random moves. Sure it would just happen to take a
piece once in a while, but it gave my son lots of confidence that he
could play the game and win. Plus I could set it weak enough that I was
likely to beat it too if I got tired of getting creamed. Plus my son had
fun toying with all the different board and piece designs.

That old Mac is history, now it's FreeBSD and Linux or nothin'. So I've
built two chess engines -- gnuchess and crafty -- and two GUIs for them
-- xboard and knights. This is all well and good if you happen to be a
good chess player. Which neither my son nor I are. I've scoured the
Internet the best I know how to find something akin to that ol' MacChess
program, but I can't find anything. Do any of you have any suggestions?

1. A chess engine that is actually beatable. A truly random move setting
would be cool. No matter how weak I make gnuchess and crafty, I get
creamed. (OK, I'm really bad. Or I haven't learned how to properly
hobble the engines.) Imagine how frustrating it is for an eight-year-old
just trying to learn the game. We have to take away the opponent's rooks
-- and sometimes the queen, too -- to give him a fighting chance. That's
no fun.

2. Alternate GUIs. Personally, I like the look of xboard, but my son
gets a kick out of selecting piece sets. Are there any other chess GUIs
beyond xboard? Or other piece sets for xboard that folks have built?

3. I can't get knights to work. It doesn't appear to have been updated
in over a year. It doesn't work with versions of gnuchess past version 4
(it's been well into version 5 for some time). It doesn't work with the
latest version of crafty. There doesn't appear to be any way to just
play a game that doesn't involve a game clock. It does, however, have
lots of fun board and piece designs, which is why I got it in the first
place.

Thanks,
Damon

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What a wee RTFM can do. :)

Mark wrote:

> Dear list,
> 
> I try to do the following, as per the ipfw2 manual for FreeBSD 4.9R-p3:
> 
> ipfw add deny ip from any to any not verrevpath in
> 
> And I get the following error:
> 
> ipfw: unknown argument ``not''
> 
> What could be the cause of that?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> - Mark

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Color me confused. The ipfw manual says:

    limit {src-addr | src-port | dst-addr | dst-port} N
    The firewall will only allow N connections with the same set of
    parameters as specified in the rule. One or more of source and
    destination addresses and ports can be specified.

If "One or more of source and destination addresses and ports can be
specified", then I'd like to limit both the total amount of connections, as
well as per-src. Something like this:

ipfw check-state ipfw add allow tcp from any to me 25 setup limit dst-addr
32 src-addr 8

The error I get is:

"ipfw: only one of keep-state and limit is allowed"

So, how can I specify "One OR MORE of source and destination addresses" in
the rule to achieve this effect?

Thanks,

- Mark

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Like the manual says, you can not code both options on single rule.
You have to make 2 rules out of it.

state ipfw add allow tcp from any to me 25 setup limit dst-addr 32
state ipfw add allow tcp from any to me 25 setup limit src-addr 8



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Subject: One OR MORE of source and destination addresses?

Color me confused. The ipfw manual says:

    limit {src-addr | src-port | dst-addr | dst-port} N
    The firewall will only allow N connections with the same set of
    parameters as specified in the rule. One or more of source and
    destination addresses and ports can be specified.

If "One or more of source and destination addresses and ports can be
specified", then I'd like to limit both the total amount of
connections, as
well as per-src. Something like this:

ipfw check-state ipfw add allow tcp from any to me 25 setup limit
dst-addr
32 src-addr 8

The error I get is:

"ipfw: only one of keep-state and limit is allowed"

So, how can I specify "One OR MORE of source and destination
addresses" in
the rule to achieve this effect?

Thanks,

- Mark

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Hi Everybody , 
 
            I can leave sendmail from base system . First I updated src tree
then I copyed /etc/default/make.conf under  /etc directory and remove the "
#  " in front of the NO_SENDMAIL = true , then I maked 
 make buildworld
 make buildkernel KERNCONF=KERNELNAME
 make installkernel KERNCONF=KERNELNAME
 make installworld
 mergemaster -cv ( I installed all changed files with using " i "  )
 reboot
 
I did not modify rc.conf for seeing what will be happend if I dont remove '
# ' in front of sendmail , after reboot I saw that FreeBSD run SENDMAIL
again and when I wrote whereis sendmail on the command prompt I saw like
this ... 
gecetrn# whereis sendmail
sendmail: /usr/sbin/sendmail /usr/share/man/man8/sendmail.8.gz
/usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail /usr/src/contrib/sendmail
/usr/ports/mail/sendmail
 
            Did  make a mistake ?! How can I remove sendmail from basesystem
?! 
 
Thanks 
Vahric 

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Hi People
  i update my ports tree via ctm and when i do
#cd /usr/ports
$make index
 i have this warning
Generating INDEX - please wait..Warning: Duplicate INDEX entry: 
freeciv-gtk2-1.14.1
 Done.
and i am trying to use "portsman" and get these error
Please stand by while portsman is coming up...
error: INDEX file seems to be corrupted or is of an unknown format.
and when i use the option of make the index the new index is corrupted again
How can i solve this problem I WANT USE PORTSMAN


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Mark wrote:

> Color me confused. The ipfw manual says:
> 
> limit {src-addr | src-port | dst-addr | dst-port} N
> The firewall will only allow N connections with the same set of
> parameters as specified in the rule. One or more of source and
> destination addresses and ports can be specified.
> 
> If "One or more of source and destination addresses and ports can be
> specified", then I'd like to limit both the total amount of
> connections, as well as per-src. Something like this:
> 
> ipfw check-state ipfw add allow tcp from any to me 25 setup limit dst-addr
> 32 src-addr 8
> 
> The error I get is:
> 
> "ipfw: only one of keep-state and limit is allowed"
> 
> So, how can I specify "One OR MORE of source and destination
> addresses" in the rule to achieve this effect?

Thanks for your reply.

JJB wrote:

> Like the manual says, you can not code both options on single rule. You
> have to make 2 rules out of it.
> 
> state ipfw add allow tcp from any to me 25 setup limit dst-addr 32
> state ipfw add allow tcp from any to me 25 setup limit src-addr 8

Actually, that is what I had already done:

ipfw add 10 check-state ipfw add 11 allow tcp from any to me 25 setup limit
dst-addr 32 ipfw add 12 check-state ipfw add 13 allow tcp from any to me 25
setup limit src-addr 4

But it seems I never get to rule 12/13. All "ipfw show" shows, is activity
on rule 10/11. That is why I figured I made an error somewhere. Does not
rule 11, indeed, function as an 'early-out'? (undesired).

Thanks,

- Mark

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[my apologies for the resent; my last reply had an unfortunate wrap]

Mark wrote:

> Color me confused. The ipfw manual says:
> 
>     limit {src-addr | src-port | dst-addr | dst-port} N
>     The firewall will only allow N connections with the same set of
>     parameters as specified in the rule. One or more of source and
>     destination addresses and ports can be specified.
> 
> If "One or more of source and destination addresses and ports can be
> specified", then I'd like to limit both the total amount of
> connections, as well as per-src. Something like this:
> 
> ipfw check-state ipfw add allow tcp from any to me 25 setup limit
> dst-addr 32 src-addr 8
> 
> The error I get is:
> 
> "ipfw: only one of keep-state and limit is allowed"
> 
> So, how can I specify "One OR MORE of source and destination
> addresses" in the rule to achieve this effect?

Thanks for your reply.

JJB wrote:

> Like the manual says, you can not code both options on single rule.
> You have to make 2 rules out of it.
> 
> state ipfw add allow tcp from any to me 25 setup limit dst-addr 32
> state ipfw add allow tcp from any to me 25 setup limit src-addr 8

Actually, that is what I had already done:

ipfw add 10 check-state
ipfw add 11 allow tcp from any to me 25 setup limit dst-addr 32
ipfw add 12 check-state
ipfw add 13 allow tcp from any to me 25 setup limit src-addr 4

But it seems I never get to rule 12/13. All "ipfw show" shows, is activity
on rule 10/11. That is why I figured I made an error somewhere. Does not
rule 11, indeed, function as an 'early-out'? (undesired).

Thanks,

- Mark

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Your rules are all wrong. You really need to reread the ipfw manual
page info. Only one check-state rule is used. Your other check-state
rule is never matched.


Here is a rewrite of the FreeBSD handbook firewall section with
examples that will answer your questions.

www.a1poweruser.com/FBSD_firewall/


To get meaningful replies you have to post complete information
about your system configuration with description of your overall
firewall goals.





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Subject: Re: One OR MORE of source and destination addresses?

[my apologies for the resent; my last reply had an unfortunate wrap]

Mark wrote:

> Color me confused. The ipfw manual says:
>
>     limit {src-addr | src-port | dst-addr | dst-port} N
>     The firewall will only allow N connections with the same set
of
>     parameters as specified in the rule. One or more of source and
>     destination addresses and ports can be specified.
>
> If "One or more of source and destination addresses and ports can
be
> specified", then I'd like to limit both the total amount of
> connections, as well as per-src. Something like this:
>
> ipfw check-state ipfw add allow tcp from any to me 25 setup limit
> dst-addr 32 src-addr 8
>
> The error I get is:
>
> "ipfw: only one of keep-state and limit is allowed"
>
> So, how can I specify "One OR MORE of source and destination
> addresses" in the rule to achieve this effect?

Thanks for your reply.

JJB wrote:

> Like the manual says, you can not code both options on single
rule.
> You have to make 2 rules out of it.
>
> state ipfw add allow tcp from any to me 25 setup limit dst-addr 32
> state ipfw add allow tcp from any to me 25 setup limit src-addr 8

Actually, that is what I had already done:

ipfw add 10 check-state
ipfw add 11 allow tcp from any to me 25 setup limit dst-addr 32
ipfw add 12 check-state
ipfw add 13 allow tcp from any to me 25 setup limit src-addr 4

But it seems I never get to rule 12/13. All "ipfw show" shows, is
activity
on rule 10/11. That is why I figured I made an error somewhere. Does
not
rule 11, indeed, function as an 'early-out'? (undesired).

Thanks,

- Mark

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As a BSD user, I can't help you.  As a chess player, I will comment that
there's a certain learning curve involved, and playing against random
moves isn't going to advance you far along it.  I've never known anyone to
become even moderately facile at chess without getting their head pounded
in on a regular basis.  If you or your son's ego isn't up to that, OSB
(Other Sports Beckon).  ;)

That said, the MOST frustrating part of learning chess is usually
tactical, not strategic (inadvertently throwing away pieces).  There are a
number of good web/Java based free chess games on the net - have you tried
any of them?  Many will show possible moves, blink to indicate pieces at
risk, etc.

KeS

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> As a BSD user, I can't help you.  As a chess player, I will comment that
> there's a certain learning curve involved, and playing against random
> moves isn't going to advance you far along it.  I've never known anyone to
> become even moderately facile at chess without getting their head pounded
> in on a regular basis.  If you or your son's ego isn't up to that, OSB
> (Other Sports Beckon).  ;)

Point well taken. ;-) But...
It's not that either of us mind losing per se. What I've discovered that 
gnuchess and crafty are orders of magnitude stronger than the old 
program we used to play against.

Say you want to learn to play tennis. You're just beginning. Who should 
you begin challenging in order to improve your game and enjoy yourself 
while doing it? Andy Roddick or the friend who's been taking 
intermediate tennis lessons through the city rec dept? In this analogy, 
the standard chess engines are Andy Roddicks and our old program was the 
intermediate friend.

My son is just not gonna learn that much nor enjoy himself much playing 
against Andy Roddick. I don't want his first serious foray into computer 
chess to be *that* intimidating or demoralizing.

> That said, the MOST frustrating part of learning chess is usually
> tactical, not strategic (inadvertently throwing away pieces).

That's it exactly.

> There are a
> number of good web/Java based free chess games on the net - have you tried
> any of them?  Many will show possible moves, blink to indicate pieces at
> risk, etc.

That sounds great! Do you have any suggestions off hand? I thought my 
searches were pretty exhaustive, but I didn't come up with anything like 
what you're talking about.

--Damon

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On Mon, Aug 02, 2004 at 11:58:06AM -0400, Osmany Guirola Cruz wrote:
> Hi People
>   i update my ports tree via ctm and when i do
> #cd /usr/ports
> $make index
>  i have this warning
> Generating INDEX - please wait..Warning: Duplicate INDEX entry:=20
> freeciv-gtk2-1.14.1
>  Done.
> and i am trying to use "portsman" and get these error
> Please stand by while portsman is coming up...
> error: INDEX file seems to be corrupted or is of an unknown format.
> and when i use the option of make the index the new index is corrupted ag=
ain
> How can i solve this problem I WANT USE PORTSMAN

Now, now -- no need to shout.  The problem seems to be that portsman
does not understand the new format of the INDEX file introduced on
July 14th.

    http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/Mk/bsd.port.subdir.mk?rev=
=3D1.55&content-type=3Dtext/x-cvsweb-markup

In any case, your first point of contact should be with the port's
maintainer, Anselm Garbe -- who in this case also happens to be the
author of the software.  He may well be working on an update, and it
would be up to him to submit any updates.  Until then, I'm afraid
you're just going to have to be patient.

	Cheers,

	Matthew

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On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 12:24:53 -0500
Damon Butler <damon@hddesign.com> wrote:

> > As a BSD user, I can't help you.  As a chess player, I will comment
> > that there's a certain learning curve involved, and playing against
> > random moves isn't going to advance you far along it.  I've never known
> > anyone to become even moderately facile at chess without getting their
> > head pounded in on a regular basis.  If you or your son's ego isn't up
> > to that, OSB(Other Sports Beckon).  ;)
> 
> Point well taken. ;-) But...
> It's not that either of us mind losing per se. What I've discovered that 
> gnuchess and crafty are orders of magnitude stronger than the old 
> program we used to play against.
> 
> Say you want to learn to play tennis. You're just beginning. Who should 
> you begin challenging in order to improve your game and enjoy yourself 
> while doing it? Andy Roddick or the friend who's been taking 
> intermediate tennis lessons through the city rec dept? In this analogy, 
> the standard chess engines are Andy Roddicks and our old program was the 
> intermediate friend.
> 
> My son is just not gonna learn that much nor enjoy himself much playing 
> against Andy Roddick. I don't want his first serious foray into computer 
> chess to be *that* intimidating or demoralizing.
> 
> > That said, the MOST frustrating part of learning chess is usually
> > tactical, not strategic (inadvertently throwing away pieces).
> 
> That's it exactly.
> 
> > There are a
> > number of good web/Java based free chess games on the net - have you
> > tried any of them?  Many will show possible moves, blink to indicate
> > pieces at risk, etc.
> 
> That sounds great! Do you have any suggestions off hand? I thought my 
> searches were pretty exhaustive, but I didn't come up with anything like 
> what you're talking about.

if you haven't already tried it, visit sf.net and plug 'chess' into the
search window.  it will probably return a bunch of programs, including some
which are java based.

fwiw, i thought that gnuchess had level settings.  are you certain that
even level 1 is too difficult for your needs?


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Thanks Matthew 
i will wait for the next version of portsman :-(
but i have a question before that i read your mail i foun in internet
this http://www.meowfishies.com/portsman.rhtml this seems to be the same 
but with gtk and it is not in the port tree ..... are they different ? it's a 
greater version that it is not in the ports tree? 
HAVE FREEBSD TEAM THE INTENTION OF INTRODUCE A OFFICIAL PACKAGE MANAGER "FRONT 
END TO  THE PORTS TREE"?
THANKS
 


 
On Monday 02 August 2004 13:31, Matthew Seaman wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 02, 2004 at 11:58:06AM -0400, Osmany Guirola Cruz wrote:
> > Hi People
> >   i update my ports tree via ctm and when i do
> > #cd /usr/ports
> > $make index
> >  i have this warning
> > Generating INDEX - please wait..Warning: Duplicate INDEX entry:
> > freeciv-gtk2-1.14.1
> >  Done.
> > and i am trying to use "portsman" and get these error
> > Please stand by while portsman is coming up...
> > error: INDEX file seems to be corrupted or is of an unknown format.
> > and when i use the option of make the index the new index is corrupted
> > again How can i solve this problem I WANT USE PORTSMAN
>
> Now, now -- no need to shout.  The problem seems to be that portsman
> does not understand the new format of the INDEX file introduced on
> July 14th.
>
>    
> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/Mk/bsd.port.subdir.mk?rev=1.55&
>content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup
>
> In any case, your first point of contact should be with the port's
> maintainer, Anselm Garbe -- who in this case also happens to be the
> author of the software.  He may well be working on an update, and it
> would be up to him to submit any updates.  Until then, I'm afraid
> you're just going to have to be patient.
>
> 	Cheers,
>
> 	Matthew

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Hey, I'm just wondering what Driver would I use with the Intel 82810
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> if you haven't already tried it, visit sf.net and plug 'chess' into the
> search window.  it will probably return a bunch of programs, including some
> which are java based.

Thanks. I'll try that out.

> fwiw, i thought that gnuchess had level settings.  are you certain that
> even level 1 is too difficult for your needs?

That could be part of the problem. There are no generalized level 
settings for the chess engines I've found. Apparently, computer chess is 
quite the discipline, involving plies and nodes and hash tables and who 
knows what else. As best I can understand, the most I can do to weaken 
the engine is to restrict the amount of time it has to think over moves 
and the search depth it is allowed to consider. In xboard, I've set 
pondering off (so the engine doesn't think when it's not its turn), 
forced the engine to move after only 1 second of consideration (the 
minimum time), and restricted the depth to 1 ply or node or whatever. 
Even doing all that, gnuchess and crafty are much stronger than that old 
MacChess program I talked about. If there's more I can do to make them 
more kid-friendly, I'm all ears.

--Damon

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JJB wrote:

> Your rules are all wrong. You really need to reread the ipfw manual
> page info. Only one check-state rule is used. Your other check-state
> rule is never matched.

Ok, I got a check-state too many.

> To get meaningful replies you have to post complete information
> about your system configuration with description of your overall
> firewall goals.

The goal is simple: I want to limit connections to port 25 to 32 in total,
targeted at "me". And of those 32, only 4 per source. Like so:

ipfw add 1 check-state
...
ipfw add 11 allow tcp from any to me 25 setup limit dst-addr 32
ipfw add 12 allow tcp from any to me 25 setup limit src-addr 4

Please, tell me then how "all wrong" this is. Because I *still* get the
impression that rule 12 is never reached. And, so far, "ipfw show" does,
indeed, only show activity on rule 11.

Thanks,

- Mark

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On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 13:02:22 -0500
Damon Butler <damon@hddesign.com> wrote:

> > if you haven't already tried it, visit sf.net and plug 'chess' into the
> > search window.  it will probably return a bunch of programs, including
> > some which are java based.
> 
> Thanks. I'll try that out.
> 
> > fwiw, i thought that gnuchess had level settings.  are you certain that
> > even level 1 is too difficult for your needs?
> 
> That could be part of the problem. There are no generalized level 
> settings for the chess engines I've found. Apparently, computer chess is 
> quite the discipline, involving plies and nodes and hash tables and who 
> knows what else. As best I can understand, the most I can do to weaken 
> the engine is to restrict the amount of time it has to think over moves 
> and the search depth it is allowed to consider. In xboard, I've set 
> pondering off (so the engine doesn't think when it's not its turn), 
> forced the engine to move after only 1 second of consideration (the 
> minimum time), and restricted the depth to 1 ply or node or whatever. 
> Even doing all that, gnuchess and crafty are much stronger than that old 
> MacChess program I talked about. If there's more I can do to make them 
> more kid-friendly, I'm all ears.

well damon,

i haven't at all tinkered with gnuchess, so i'm sorry that i cannot help
you.  i can, however, suggest one alternative, which may or may not be
to your liking...

since trying the 'game of go' (aka [p,b]aduk, wei-chi), i've entirely lost
all interest in the game of chess.  there is a similar program for playing
(gnugo) which allows you to set levels rather easily.  there are also nice
graphic clients out there (cgoban2 and ggo, among others).  you can play
with people on the net, live, 24 hours per day, and at all levels of
ability.

though the rules of chess really aren't all that complicated, the rules of
go are even more simple.  despite the reduced rule set, the strategies can
be so complex and nuanced that even the best designed programs can only
beat the most novice of players.  not true for chess.  (i give it a 3 stone
handicap at it's maximum level and still thrash it.  =)

the game is _thousands of years old_ and hugely popular in asian countries,
where professionals make millions of dollars and matches are regularly
televised.

if you're at all curious, here is a great link to get you started on the
rules (java enabled browser required) :

http://playgo.to/interactive/index.html

as far as online servers, there are many.  i have used several but most
recommend 'kgs' - for it's warm and highly supportive community, and wicked
go client.

http://kgs.kiseido.com/

hope that, in a roundabout way, this helps.  i also hope to see you and
your son online (just look for my nick ;)


cheers,
epi

p.s.  chess is for IBM.   (naively hoping not to cause a flame war)


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Hi,

This is one of those "Stop me before I waste my time." questions....

I have a box w/ a dpt raid controller (DPT PM3755U2B) that I set up
with raidutils from the asr-utils port back when the machine was
running -STABLE.

I've since migrated the machine to -CURRENT, and followed the various
threads about the asr-utils not working with sadness but
understanding.

I'd like to be able to use occasionally the raidutils tool, and am
considering buidling some sort of bootable -STABLE system.  One
thought would be to just use an IDE disk, but even better would be to
build a bootable cd that includes the asr-utils port.

Does the thought of building a bootable -STABLE cd that includes the
asr-tools raise a red flag for anyone?

What's the state of the art for making bootable cd's.  Google shows a
bunch of pages for older 4-series releases, e.g.:

  http://www.sfc.wide.ad.jp/~watari/FreeBSD/boot.html

and I've found cdroot in the ports tree.

Is one of these worth diving into?

g.

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The IBM aptiva machines used a modified ati chipset.  Some models do not 
work properly with x11, os/2 warp (ironically), and other non-windows 
environments.  There is a rage driver present with x11 that might work.

On Mon, 2 Aug 2004, Bruce wrote:

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There are a few SATA controllers listed as supported in 4.10, but I'm not
seeing anything from 3ware.  If you saw a recent post, you know that I've
inheritied some hardware, and I'm just trying to make sure that FreeBSD
is going to run prior to blowing away the Linux install.

Anyone running any 3ware SATA RAID controllers on 4.10?  Do they work?
I'm having a hell of a time finding out what model # these are!  But I
know they're 64-bit PCI plugged into a 32-bit PCI mobo. ;)

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    I'm running into some difficulty getting applixware running on my 4.10
install. When I try to execute applix, I get the error:

/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/X11R6/lib/libgtk12.so.2: Undefined symbol
"getresuid"



   Apparently getresuid is coming up undefined, so, I tried writing a
piece of code called getresuid.cc:

#include <sys/types.h>
int getresuid(uid_t *, uid_t *, uid_t *) { return 1; }


  and I compiled it:

cc -Wall -shared -fPIC -DPIC -o getresuid.so getresuid.cc


  and moved my resulting getresuid.so into /usr/local/lib.


  I then tried starting applix with this startup code:

#!/bin/sh
APPLIX_HOME="/usr/local/applix"
export APPLIX_HOME
LD_PRELOAD="/usr/local/lib/getresuid.so"
export LD_PRELOAD
exec $APPLIX_HOME/applix "$@"


   Which did not work (I still get the same error:
/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/X11R6/lib/libgtk12.so.2: Undefined symbol
getresuid


  I tried another approach to the startup script, which also failed in
the same way:

#!/bin/sh -
export LD_PRELOAD=/usr/local/lib/getresuid.so
applix $*


   Anyone have any suggestions? It seems as though even though I am
defining LD_PRELOAD, it isn't loading when the program is run.


   Thanks,


   - Jamie









The Moon is Waning Gibbous (95% of Full)

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> well damon,
> 
> i haven't at all tinkered with gnuchess, so i'm sorry that i cannot help
> you.  i can, however, suggest one alternative, which may or may not be
> to your liking...
> 
> since trying the 'game of go' (aka [p,b]aduk, wei-chi), i've entirely lost
> all interest in the game of chess.

Oh, I'm already all over that go game. ;-) Thanks.
--Damon

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hello all,

well, i was beginning to think that i was either hallucinating or suffering
from some sort of bizarre nerve damage...   but i seem to have made some
progress in analysing this problem.

i have attached a (sorted and commented) file with output from xev.  the
problem always affects only the right-alt key, despite the various
xkbmodels i select (or leave blank).

i also came across two other reports of the same behaviour:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2004/06/msg01410.html
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=261816

as you can see, they're from deb.  they seem to have isolated the problem
to a symbols/pc file within x11, not fluxbox.  a patch is provided, but it
does not apply cleanly to the version of xorg that i have installed.

i would very much appreciate any suggestions.


thank you,
epi

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Subject: wm dropping keypresses since moving to xorg (strange)


hello x11, questions,

i have some reservations about sending this in, because it sounds a bit
weird, but i've jumped through all the usual self-serve hoops and i'm about
at my wits end.

since switching to xorg, when i alt+tab to a window with my wm of choice
(fluxbox-devel), the 1st keypress is always dropped in the new window,
regardless of whether that window is a *term, mail client, browser, ...

say i alt+tab to an xterm.  for 'man' to appear on the command line, i must
type 'mman' or 'ccd' for 'cd'.

the window only drops that 1st key.  if i alt+tab away and come back, it
will again drop only the 1st key.


here is what i know:

1) it doesn't happen if i use the mouse.
2) this problem was not apparent when i tested for it with icewm or xfce4.
3) fluxbox used to play very nicely with xfree.


here is what i've tried:

1) google, fbsd and xorg mailing lists.
2) contacted the fluxbox developers over irc.  several are running xorg
and fluxbox on linux without the problems i'm seeing.    (?!)
3) rebuilt xorg then fluxbox-devel.  removed .fluxbox to ensure that the
default settings would load.
4) played with xorg.conf (used old xfree.conf, built a new xorg.conf,
and changed various settings withing xorg.conf)
5) attempted to pinpoint the issue via xev, but failed miserably.


it smells like some sort of 'focus' problem to me.  any suggestions would
be very much appreciated.

hoping that i'm not alone here.


thanks,
epi


p.s. a little additional info for any of you who know a bit about fluxbox
settings.  the problem seems only to occur with those keybindings
(like alt+tab) which are mapped to 'NextWindow' or 'NextWindow 1' but _not_
with 'NextTab'.  naturally, the same holds true for the shift+foo combos
which translate to 'Previous____'.
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On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 14:42:11 -0500, Damon Butler <damon@hddesign.com> wrote:
> > well damon,
> >
> > i haven't at all tinkered with gnuchess, so i'm sorry that i cannot help
> > you.  i can, however, suggest one alternative, which may or may not be
> > to your liking...
> >
> > since trying the 'game of go' (aka [p,b]aduk, wei-chi), i've entirely lost
> > all interest in the game of chess.
> 
> Oh, I'm already all over that go game. ;-) Thanks.
> 

May I suggest Phalanx, found in the ports tree? It is an excellent
chess program, works wonderfully with xboard, and 'phalanx -e 100' is
very likely to meet your needs for a weak chess engine.
HTH.

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> May I suggest Phalanx, found in the ports tree? It is an excellent
> chess program, works wonderfully with xboard, and 'phalanx -e 100' is
> very likely to meet your needs for a weak chess engine.

That looks excellent indeed. Thanks!
--Damon

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On Sunday 01 August 2004 09:08 am, Hugo Silva wrote:
> I am running a Dual Xeon 2.8ghz w/ SMP, SCHED_ULE on FreeBSD
> 5.2.1-RELEASE-p9.
>
> Whenever I load the server a bit more (let seti@home run, compile stuff in
> multiple jails, etc), it will simple go offline. I confirmed with the
> datacenter and it is indeed a panic, but the datacenter didn't give me the
> panic message. I know for *sure* it's because of the high loads.

Hmm, we'd really need the panic message to even start debugging it.

> I need to sort this out, this is a powerful server being cut because of
> FreeBSD/SMP, and I know there is a kernel option to prevent the panic, I
> read about it ages ago on a forum. But I can't locate it. That user said
> if he disabled SMP, panics would stop. But another user suggested adding a
> kernel option (which I simply don't remember), and panics stopped, even
> with SMP.
>
> I tried KVA_PAGES=512, but it only caused another panic, this time as soon
> as the system started up..
>
> syncing disks, buffers remaining... panic: pmap_invalidate_range:
> interrupts disabled
> cpuid = 0;
> boot() called on cpu#0
> uptime: 9s

Unfortunately, I'd really need the backtrace to see how to fix this panic.

-- 
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On Aug 2, 2004, at 2:03 PM, Bill Moran wrote:

> There are a few SATA controllers listed as supported in 4.10, but I'm 
> not
> seeing anything from 3ware.  If you saw a recent post, you know that 
> I've
> inheritied some hardware, and I'm just trying to make sure that FreeBSD
> is going to run prior to blowing away the Linux install.

The simple thing to do is boot a FreeBSD install CD and check what it 
sees. Likely to tell you more than you currently know about what the 
hardware really is.

If sysinstall sees your SATA drives and is willing to install on them 
then its likely you are in business. Then the issue would be managing 
the RAID hardware.

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Hello how are you doing I have been thinking about buying a copy of FreeBSD 
PowerPak and I would like to know what kind of Modem, Sound Card, Display Card 
I would have to have for my computer the type of computer that I have is a 
Hewlett Packard Pavilion 4453. and could you please tell me a couple of brands of 
Modems Sound Cards and Display Card that I would need to go and by and also 
could you please tell me the brand name and the model of the hardware that I 
need to buy to be able to run the FreeBSD Powerpack thank you for you time and 
have a nice day.

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CGrmvll@aol.com wrote:

> Hello

Hi.

> how are you doing

OK.  Have you ever heard of punctuation?

> I have been thinking about buying a copy of FreeBSD 

Cool.

> PowerPak and I would like to know what kind of Modem, Sound Card, Display
> Card 

See this page:
http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.10R/hardware-i386.html

> I would have to have for my computer the type of computer that I have is a 
> Hewlett Packard Pavilion 4453. and could you please tell me a couple of
> brands of 
> Modems Sound Cards and Display Card that I would need to go and by and also 
> could you please tell me the brand name and the model of the hardware that I 
> need to buy to be able to run the FreeBSD Powerpack thank you for you time
> and 
> have a nice day.

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CGrmvll@aol.com wrote:

>Hello how are you doing I have been thinking about buying a copy of FreeBSD 
>PowerPak and I would like to know what kind of Modem, Sound Card, Display Card 
>I would have to have for my computer the type of computer that I have is a 
>Hewlett Packard Pavilion 4453. and could you please tell me a couple of brands of 
>Modems Sound Cards and Display Card that I would need to go and by and also 
>could you please tell me the brand name and the model of the hardware that I 
>need to buy to be able to run the FreeBSD Powerpack thank you for you time and 
>have a nice day.
>  
>
A list of supported hardware exists at www.freebsd.org.  A link should
appear on the "home" page to get you to this resource.  While there, you
should grab a copy of the FreeBSD "Handbook" in order to learn what
to do when something does something unexpected --- not that the OS
will necessarily do anything unusual, but many people don't think
"FreeBSD"-ishLY <?>, and will inevitably have questions during or after
installation.  (Good news, you have contacted the right place to ask
them....)

Almost any display cards will work in textmode; to see a list of supported
cards for graphics mode, visit www.xfree86.org.  Personally, I have used
Nvidia "GE Force" cards, SiS cards, and Trident cards.  It occasionally 
takes
a little time to develop new drivers, so the "latest & greatest" cards may
not yet be supported; or, they may work but need "tweaking" or use a Linux
compatible driver instead of native support, etc.

Most sound cards, including on-chip (built in) sound, will work.

For modems, the rule used to be "no winmodems".  This basically meant
"buy an external modem".  I have a USR v.92 external (serial) modem on one
machine; this was about $70.00 last year.  There is 3rd party software 
support
for "winmodems" that use a Lucent chipset, I think.  I may be wrong, but 
that's
about it for modems.

Kevin Kinsey

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> 
> Hello how are you doing I have been thinking about buying a copy of FreeBSD 
> PowerPak and I would like to know what kind of Modem, Sound Card, Display Card 
> I would have to have for my computer the type of computer that I have is a 
> Hewlett Packard Pavilion 4453. and could you please tell me a couple of brands of 
> Modems Sound Cards and Display Card that I would need to go and by and also 
> could you please tell me the brand name and the model of the hardware that I 
> need to buy to be able to run the FreeBSD Powerpack thank you for you time and 

Probably pretty much anything that would come with that machine would work.
But, to check, go to the FreeBSD web site   http://www.freebsd.org/
and click on the Hardware Notes link under the version of FreeBSD you
intend to install.   I would suggest installing FreeBSD 4.10 for now.
Then on the next page click on the link for type of CPU.   
That would be the i386 family.

Specifically, the URL for FreeBSD 4.10 Hardware is:

       http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.10R/hardware-i386.html

That will get you a nice long list of supported hardware, organized
by type of device.  Note that graphics card and monitor are supported
by the X package you run - probably XFree86 for FreeBSD 4.10 - at least
until you get to know enough to examine others.   (I hear Xorg is
being included for 5.xxx versions of FreeBSD)  So, you need to go to 
the web page for Xfree86 to check out compatibilities for graphics.

But, don't let these two things be the limit of your reading.  Check out
the free FreeBSD handbook, which is online at the FreeBSD web site.

     http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html

Archives, numerous search engines such as Google and several
online publications such s Onlamp are also good sources on info.

There are also several good books out about FreeBSD.  
FreeBSD Unleashed, Complete FreeBSd, Absolute FreeBSD and FreeBSD An
Opensource Operating System all come to mind.

////jerry

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On Mon, 2 Aug 2004, Ewald Jenisch wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> Central management of our servers runs under HP SIM (HP Systems
> Insight Manager), formerly known as CIM (Compaq Insight Manager). HP
> on its website says it's supported for Windoze, HP-UX and Linux.
>
> Has anybody out there got this software running under FreeBSD
> (possibly using Linux emulation)?

Well, I once had a look at it, but it was way cruel, the installation
package (at least the one I was aware of) was a rpm, that IIRC needed an
/opt, and there was lots of binary code and other stuff, so it is not
the thing of: lets put it under linux emu and let it run...

Gave it up quite frustrated, because it has its own installer that was
not so easy to fool around.

*sigh*
Olaf


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On Mon, 2 Aug 2004, Ewald Jenisch wrote:

> Hi,
>
> For a HP Compaq Proliant DL360 I'm looking for the SNMP-MIBs that
> cover the following items:
>
> o) Disk-IO
> o) Disk-usage (capacity used)
> o) Memory usage
> o) Compaq/HP Smartarray (Compaq Smart Array 5i), esp. disk failure etc.
> o) CPU Usage (two Xeons running SMP (hyperthreading to 4 virtual CPUs)
> o) Network-IO
>
> Does anybody know where I can get hold of the respective MIBs?
>
> Somewhat related to the above question: Is it possible to make the
> respective MIB variables available via net-snmp in order to either
> poll them (snmp read) or send traps when reaching certain thresholds?
> I esp. thought about sending traps when e.g. the smartarray reports a
> problem, disks become full etc.

The MIBs (basically translation from numerical OID -> human readable
description with comment field) as such are freely available from HP,
they are supplied
on the CD that comes with every box, or downloadable as softpaq.

What you probably mean, is the SNMP Agent, which is responsible for
collecting the data as such, and supply those to the snmp package (in
this case, net-snmp) for further treatment.
AFAIK those agents are binary only, and it should be quite difficult to
get them run even under linux emu.

At work, I have a couple of 360/380 running Win2003, that are being
monitored by a FreeBSD box with net-snmp/nagios. Also have to use the HP
MIBs there, works like a charm.  But you are looking for a solution to
have native agents with FreeBSD, and that is going to be difficult.

HTH
Olaf



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There is an https version of lynx.  Check the ports tree.

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> Hi all,
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> I am wondering if anyone knows of a text browser that
> I can use in FreeBSD 5.21 that supports https?  I am
> currently using Lynx, and it does not support https..
> Any advices?
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> Thanks in advance,
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Dee Gaans wrote:
> Hi all,
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> I am wondering if anyone knows of a text browser that
> I can use in FreeBSD 5.21 that supports https?  I am
> currently using Lynx, and it does not support https..=20

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I had a similar problem with this release running on any Dell 2550 Rack
server I had. I tried three different servers with the same config, and I
had kernel panics at various times. All of them had different information
on the screen at each panic.

I had several people tel lme they had no such problems with the same
systems.

I chalked it up to bad driver for the PERC3/DC raid controller. All panics
seemd to happen under very high disk I/O. The machine would run fine for a
few days, then just puke.

I moved all the stuff over to a refurb Compaq Dual Xeon 2.8, and have had
only one problem lockup in the 5 months I've been running it under
increasing loads. The last lockup I had also seemed related to disk I/O.

Otherwise, 5.2.1 has been a very stable production server processing over
1 million E-mail's a day incoming and hundred thousand out.

Chuck

On Mon, 2 Aug 2004, John Baldwin wrote:

> On Sunday 01 August 2004 09:08 am, Hugo Silva wrote:
> > I am running a Dual Xeon 2.8ghz w/ SMP, SCHED_ULE on FreeBSD
> > 5.2.1-RELEASE-p9.
> >
> > Whenever I load the server a bit more (let seti@home run, compile stuff in
> > multiple jails, etc), it will simple go offline. I confirmed with the
> > datacenter and it is indeed a panic, but the datacenter didn't give me the
> > panic message. I know for *sure* it's because of the high loads.
>
> Hmm, we'd really need the panic message to even start debugging it.
>
> > I need to sort this out, this is a powerful server being cut because of
> > FreeBSD/SMP, and I know there is a kernel option to prevent the panic, I
> > read about it ages ago on a forum. But I can't locate it. That user said
> > if he disabled SMP, panics would stop. But another user suggested adding a
> > kernel option (which I simply don't remember), and panics stopped, even
> > with SMP.
> >
> > I tried KVA_PAGES=512, but it only caused another panic, this time as soon
> > as the system started up..
> >
> > syncing disks, buffers remaining... panic: pmap_invalidate_range:
> > interrupts disabled
> > cpuid = 0;
> > boot() called on cpu#0
> > uptime: 9s
>
> Unfortunately, I'd really need the backtrace to see how to fix this panic.
>
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thanks to some very kind help from dejan, and after a little stress testing
on my end, i believe that it is safe to declare this problem solved.

----------
the fix:
----------

/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/symbols/pc/pc

<snip>
  //  Fake keys for virtual<->real modifiers mapping 
    key <LVL3> {        [ ISO_Level3_Shift      ]       };
    key <MDSW> {        [ Mode_switch           ]       };
    modifier_map Mod5   { <LVL3>, <MDSW> };

    key <ALT>  {        [ NoSymbol, Alt_L       ]       };
    modifier_map Mod1   { <ALT>, <LALT> };
<snip>

add <RALT> to:
    modifier_map Mod1   { <ALT>, <LALT>, <RALT> };

save file and restart x.


hello anholt,
copying you in case you want to feed this back up the pipe to xorg.  dejan
also located this old link, which you might find of interest:

http://bugs.xfree86.org/show_bug.cgi?id=580


cheers,
epi

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epilogue <epilogue@allstream.net> wrote:

> 
> hello all,
> 
> well, i was beginning to think that i was either hallucinating or
> suffering from some sort of bizarre nerve damage...   but i seem to have
> made some progress in analysing this problem.
> 
> i have attached a (sorted and commented) file with output from xev.  the
> problem always affects only the right-alt key, despite the various
> xkbmodels i select (or leave blank).
> 
> i also came across two other reports of the same behaviour:
> 
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2004/06/msg01410.html
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=261816
> 
> as you can see, they're from deb.  they seem to have isolated the problem
> to a symbols/pc file within x11, not fluxbox.  a patch is provided, but
> it does not apply cleanly to the version of xorg that i have installed.
> 
> i would very much appreciate any suggestions.
> 
> 
> thank you,
> epi
> 
> ---------------
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 00:33:30 -0400
> From: epilogue <epilogue@allstream.net>
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-x11@freebsd.org
> Subject: wm dropping keypresses since moving to xorg (strange)
> 
> 
> hello x11, questions,
> 
> i have some reservations about sending this in, because it sounds a bit
> weird, but i've jumped through all the usual self-serve hoops and i'm
> about at my wits end.
> 
> since switching to xorg, when i alt+tab to a window with my wm of choice
> (fluxbox-devel), the 1st keypress is always dropped in the new window,
> regardless of whether that window is a *term, mail client, browser, ...
> 
> say i alt+tab to an xterm.  for 'man' to appear on the command line, i
> must type 'mman' or 'ccd' for 'cd'.
> 
> the window only drops that 1st key.  if i alt+tab away and come back, it
> will again drop only the 1st key.
> 
> 
> here is what i know:
> 
> 1) it doesn't happen if i use the mouse.
> 2) this problem was not apparent when i tested for it with icewm or
> xfce4. 3) fluxbox used to play very nicely with xfree.
> 
> 
> here is what i've tried:
> 
> 1) google, fbsd and xorg mailing lists.
> 2) contacted the fluxbox developers over irc.  several are running xorg
> and fluxbox on linux without the problems i'm seeing.    (?!)
> 3) rebuilt xorg then fluxbox-devel.  removed .fluxbox to ensure that the
> default settings would load.
> 4) played with xorg.conf (used old xfree.conf, built a new xorg.conf,
> and changed various settings withing xorg.conf)
> 5) attempted to pinpoint the issue via xev, but failed miserably.
> 
> 
> it smells like some sort of 'focus' problem to me.  any suggestions would
> be very much appreciated.
> 
> hoping that i'm not alone here.
> 
> 
> thanks,
> epi
> 
> 
> p.s. a little additional info for any of you who know a bit about fluxbox
> settings.  the problem seems only to occur with those keybindings
> (like alt+tab) which are mapped to 'NextWindow' or 'NextWindow 1' but
> _not_ with 'NextTab'.  naturally, the same holds true for the shift+foo
> combos which translate to 'Previous____'.
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I'm running Gnome 2.4 on 5.2.1-RELEASE.  I've configured gdm to run at 
boot time and would like it to automatically log me in.  However, it 
always prompts me for a password.  Scanning the archives, I saw that 
others suggested copying /etc/pam.d/gdm to /etc/pam.d/gdm-autologin.  I 
did this but it didn't fix anything.  Here's my gdm/gdm-autologin:

#
# $FreeBSD: src/etc/pam.d/gdm,v 1.7 2003/04/30 21:57:54 markm Exp $
#
# PAM configuration for the "gdm" service
#
 
# auth
auth            required        pam_nologin.so          no_warn
#auth           sufficient      pam_krb5.so             no_warn 
try_first_pass
#auth           sufficient      pam_ssh.so              no_warn 
try_first_pass
auth            required        pam_unix.so             no_warn 
try_first_pass
auth            required        pam_permit.so
 
# account
#account        required        pam_krb5.so
account         required        pam_unix.so
 
# session
#session        optional        pam_ssh.so
session         required        pam_permit.so

What am I missing?

Also, if I select "Reboot" or "Shut down" from the logout menu as root, 
the machine just hangs.  Any suggestions?

Thanks for any help you can provide.

Chris Radlinski

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On Mon, 2004-08-02 at 23:40, Chris Radlinski wrote:
> I'm running Gnome 2.4 on 5.2.1-RELEASE.  I've configured gdm to run at=20
> boot time and would like it to automatically log me in.  However, it=20
> always prompts me for a password.  Scanning the archives, I saw that=20
> others suggested copying /etc/pam.d/gdm to /etc/pam.d/gdm-autologin.  I=20
> did this but it didn't fix anything.  Here's my gdm/gdm-autologin:
>=20
> #
> # $FreeBSD: src/etc/pam.d/gdm,v 1.7 2003/04/30 21:57:54 markm Exp $
> #
> # PAM configuration for the "gdm" service
> #
> =20
> # auth
> auth            required        pam_nologin.so          no_warn
> #auth           sufficient      pam_krb5.so             no_warn=20
> try_first_pass
> #auth           sufficient      pam_ssh.so              no_warn=20
> try_first_pass
> auth            required        pam_unix.so             no_warn=20
> try_first_pass
> auth            required        pam_permit.so
> =20
> # account
> #account        required        pam_krb5.so
> account         required        pam_unix.so
> =20
> # session
> #session        optional        pam_ssh.so
> session         required        pam_permit.so
>=20
> What am I missing?

Remove the auth pam_unix.so entry.  The gdm-autologin PAM definition
should be:

auth       required     pam_nologin.so
auth       required     pam_permit.so
account    required     pam_unix.so
session    required     pam_permit.so

As discussed in the freebsd-gnome archives.

>=20
> Also, if I select "Reboot" or "Shut down" from the logout menu as root,=20
> the machine just hangs.  Any suggestions?

Don't do that.  If you want to try and track down what's happening,
configure you machine for a serial console, and make sure you're set to
drop into the debugger should the system panic.  Then, when it hangs,
you should hopefully get something on the serial console.  Consult the
handbook for more info.

Joe

>=20
> Thanks for any help you can provide.
>=20
> Chris Radlinski
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That did it.  Thanks.

Chris


Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:

>On Mon, 2004-08-02 at 23:40, Chris Radlinski wrote:
>  
>
>>I'm running Gnome 2.4 on 5.2.1-RELEASE.  I've configured gdm to run at 
>>boot time and would like it to automatically log me in.  However, it 
>>always prompts me for a password.  Scanning the archives, I saw that 
>>others suggested copying /etc/pam.d/gdm to /etc/pam.d/gdm-autologin.  I 
>>did this but it didn't fix anything.  Here's my gdm/gdm-autologin:
>>
>>#
>># $FreeBSD: src/etc/pam.d/gdm,v 1.7 2003/04/30 21:57:54 markm Exp $
>>#
>># PAM configuration for the "gdm" service
>>#
>> 
>># auth
>>auth            required        pam_nologin.so          no_warn
>>#auth           sufficient      pam_krb5.so             no_warn 
>>try_first_pass
>>#auth           sufficient      pam_ssh.so              no_warn 
>>try_first_pass
>>auth            required        pam_unix.so             no_warn 
>>try_first_pass
>>auth            required        pam_permit.so
>> 
>># account
>>#account        required        pam_krb5.so
>>account         required        pam_unix.so
>> 
>># session
>>#session        optional        pam_ssh.so
>>session         required        pam_permit.so
>>
>>What am I missing?
>>    
>>
>
>Remove the auth pam_unix.so entry.  The gdm-autologin PAM definition
>should be:
>
>auth       required     pam_nologin.so
>auth       required     pam_permit.so
>account    required     pam_unix.so
>session    required     pam_permit.so
>
>As discussed in the freebsd-gnome archives.
>
>  
>
>>Also, if I select "Reboot" or "Shut down" from the logout menu as root, 
>>the machine just hangs.  Any suggestions?
>>    
>>
>
>Don't do that.  If you want to try and track down what's happening,
>configure you machine for a serial console, and make sure you're set to
>drop into the debugger should the system panic.  Then, when it hangs,
>you should hopefully get something on the serial console.  Consult the
>handbook for more info.
>
>Joe
>
>  
>
>>Thanks for any help you can provide.
>>
>>Chris Radlinski
>>
>>_______________________________________________
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Hi.

I have two question. I hope what someone helps me.
First:
       I have NVidia fx5600 and installs drivers from
/usr/ports/x11/nvidia-driver
================================================
# cat /boot/loader.conf
hw.ata.ata_dma=0
nvidia_load="YES"
linux_load="YES"                 # Linux emulation
================================================
First run glxgears shows ~2000 fps but second ~10 fps. And whole OpenGL
application lags.

Problem solves in changing on NVidia mx 4400. All works fine.


Second:
I have Maya 6.0 and 5.0. And on 4.10 Jul
================================================
# stat /usr/src/UPDATING
291840 340045 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1395128 43781 "Jul 28 13:45:10
2004" "Jul 17 18:33:11 2004" "Jul 17 18:33:11 2004" 16384 88 0
/usr/src/UPDATING
================================================
17 18:33:11 2004

After normal start. and showing interface both Maya 5.0 and 6.0 fails.

================================================
%/compat/linux/bin/csh /compat/linux/usr/aw/maya5.0/bin/maya
Maya (R), Version 5.0, 2003 04 01 00 02
Copyright 1997-2003 Alias|Wavefront, a division of Silicon Graphics Limited.
All rights reserved.

Graph Layout Toolkit
Copyright 1992-1997 Tom Sawyer Software, Berkeley, California
All rights reserved.


maya encountered a fatal error

Signal: 4 (Unknown Signal)
Attempting to save in
        /usr/tmp/romis.20040728.1326.ma
================================================
The same result on 5.2.1 current.
But near by 2 years ago i runs Maya 4.5 on FreeBSD somthing like 4.6.
And all works fine.

Please help. For me very convinient development on FreeBSD. And for that
me needed Maya.
But old version I haven't now.




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I have a machine running 4.10-RELEASE-p2 with two identical hard disks
-- ad0 and ad2. I would like to make a complete copy of the first disk
to the second disk nightly for quick disaster recovery.

I've dd'ed the disk as follows

# dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/ad2

and edited the disklabel of the second disk to change ad0s1 to ad2s1 as follows

# disklabel -e -r ad2

However, I'm still unable to mount the root partion (or any other
partition) of the second disk to tweak /etc/fstab etc. even though

# mount /dev/ad2s1a /mnt
mount: /dev/ad2s1a: Operation not permitted

What am I missing? Is there anything else I need to do beyond editing
the disklabel to allow me to use the "mirrored" disk?

Output of disklabel for the two disks follows:

# disklabel ad0
# /dev/ad0c:
type: ESDI
disk: ad0s1
label: 
flags:
bytes/sector: 512
sectors/track: 63
tracks/cylinder: 255
sectors/cylinder: 16065
cylinders: 4864
sectors/unit: 78156162
rpm: 3600
interleave: 1
trackskew: 0
cylinderskew: 0
headswitch: 0           # milliseconds
track-to-track seek: 0  # milliseconds
drivedata: 0 

8 partitions:
#        size   offset    fstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
  a:   409600        0    4.2BSD     2048 16384    97   # (Cyl.    0 - 25*)
  b:  5242880   409600      swap                        # (Cyl.   25*- 351*)
  c: 78156162        0    unused        0     0         # (Cyl.    0 - 4864*)
  e:  4194304  5652480    4.2BSD     2048 16384    89   # (Cyl.  351*- 612*)
  f: 10485760  9846784    4.2BSD     2048 16384    89   # (Cyl.  612*- 1265*)
  g: 18874368 20332544    4.2BSD     2048 16384    89   # (Cyl. 1265*- 2440*)

# disklabel ad2
# /dev/ad2c:
type: ESDI
disk: ad2s1
label: 
flags:
bytes/sector: 512
sectors/track: 63
tracks/cylinder: 255
sectors/cylinder: 16065
cylinders: 4864
sectors/unit: 78156162
rpm: 3600
interleave: 1
trackskew: 0
cylinderskew: 0
headswitch: 0           # milliseconds
track-to-track seek: 0  # milliseconds
drivedata: 0 

8 partitions:
#        size   offset    fstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
  a:   409600        0    4.2BSD     2048 16384    97   # (Cyl.    0 - 25*)
  b:  5242880   409600      swap                        # (Cyl.   25*- 351*)
  c: 78156162        0    unused        0     0         # (Cyl.    0 - 4864*)
  e:  4194304  5652480    4.2BSD     2048 16384    89   # (Cyl.  351*- 612*)
  f: 10485760  9846784    4.2BSD     2048 16384    89   # (Cyl.  612*- 1265*)
  g: 18874368 20332544    4.2BSD     2048 16384    89   # (Cyl. 1265*- 2440*)

Thanks for any insight, and let me know if you need to see anything else.

-Matt

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On Tue, 3 Aug 2004, Matt wrote:

> I have a machine running 4.10-RELEASE-p2 with two identical hard disks
> -- ad0 and ad2. I would like to make a complete copy of the first disk
> to the second disk nightly for quick disaster recovery.
>
> I've dd'ed the disk as follows
>
> # dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/ad2
>
> and edited the disklabel of the second disk to change ad0s1 to ad2s1 as follows
>
> # disklabel -e -r ad2
>
> However, I'm still unable to mount the root partion (or any other
> partition) of the second disk to tweak /etc/fstab etc. even though
>
> # mount /dev/ad2s1a /mnt
> mount: /dev/ad2s1a: Operation not permitted
>
> What am I missing? Is there anything else I need to do beyond editing
> the disklabel to allow me to use the "mirrored" disk?
>
> Output of disklabel for the two disks follows:
>
> # disklabel ad0
> # /dev/ad0c:
> type: ESDI
> disk: ad0s1
> label:
> flags:
> bytes/sector: 512
> sectors/track: 63
> tracks/cylinder: 255
> sectors/cylinder: 16065
> cylinders: 4864
> sectors/unit: 78156162
> rpm: 3600
> interleave: 1
> trackskew: 0
> cylinderskew: 0
> headswitch: 0           # milliseconds
> track-to-track seek: 0  # milliseconds
> drivedata: 0
>
> 8 partitions:
> #        size   offset    fstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
>   a:   409600        0    4.2BSD     2048 16384    97   # (Cyl.    0 - 25*)
>   b:  5242880   409600      swap                        # (Cyl.   25*- 351*)
>   c: 78156162        0    unused        0     0         # (Cyl.    0 - 4864*)
>   e:  4194304  5652480    4.2BSD     2048 16384    89   # (Cyl.  351*- 612*)
>   f: 10485760  9846784    4.2BSD     2048 16384    89   # (Cyl.  612*- 1265*)
>   g: 18874368 20332544    4.2BSD     2048 16384    89   # (Cyl. 1265*- 2440*)
>
> # disklabel ad2
> # /dev/ad2c:
> type: ESDI
> disk: ad2s1
> label:
> flags:
> bytes/sector: 512
> sectors/track: 63
> tracks/cylinder: 255
> sectors/cylinder: 16065
> cylinders: 4864
> sectors/unit: 78156162
> rpm: 3600
> interleave: 1
> trackskew: 0
> cylinderskew: 0
> headswitch: 0           # milliseconds
> track-to-track seek: 0  # milliseconds
> drivedata: 0
>
> 8 partitions:
> #        size   offset    fstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
>   a:   409600        0    4.2BSD     2048 16384    97   # (Cyl.    0 - 25*)
>   b:  5242880   409600      swap                        # (Cyl.   25*- 351*)
>   c: 78156162        0    unused        0     0         # (Cyl.    0 - 4864*)
>   e:  4194304  5652480    4.2BSD     2048 16384    89   # (Cyl.  351*- 612*)
>   f: 10485760  9846784    4.2BSD     2048 16384    89   # (Cyl.  612*- 1265*)
>   g: 18874368 20332544    4.2BSD     2048 16384    89   # (Cyl. 1265*- 2440*)
>
> Thanks for any insight, and let me know if you need to see anything else.

Did you do the dd-copy while the system was running multi-user from the
first disk? I'd expect larger problems then because the file systems
inconsistencies on the second disk may never be resolved.

If you did it in single user mode, a 'fsck -y' for each file system on the
second disk before trying to mount may help.

Best regards

Konrad Heuer
GWDG, Am Fassberg, 37077 Goettingen, Germany, kheuer2@gwdg.de

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On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 08:43:24 +0200 (CEST), Konrad Heuer <kheuer2@gwdg.de> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 3 Aug 2004, Matt wrote:
> 
> > I have a machine running 4.10-RELEASE-p2 with two identical hard disks
> > -- ad0 and ad2. I would like to make a complete copy of the first disk
> > to the second disk nightly for quick disaster recovery.
> >
> > I've dd'ed the disk as follows
> >
> > # dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/ad2
> >
> > and edited the disklabel of the second disk to change ad0s1 to ad2s1 as follows
> >
> > # disklabel -e -r ad2
> >
> > However, I'm still unable to mount the root partion (or any other
> > partition) of the second disk to tweak /etc/fstab etc. even though
> >
> > # mount /dev/ad2s1a /mnt
> > mount: /dev/ad2s1a: Operation not permitted
> >
[snip]
> > Thanks for any insight, and let me know if you need to see anything else.
> 
> Did you do the dd-copy while the system was running multi-user from the
> first disk? I'd expect larger problems then because the file systems
> inconsistencies on the second disk may never be resolved.
> 
> If you did it in single user mode, a 'fsck -y' for each file system on the
> second disk before trying to mount may help.

Yep, <slaps self> fsck -y did the trick.

Thanks Konrad

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>> I try to install 4.10 on headless PC(without a monitor and vga output)
>> So I've used my laptop as a serial console (via null modem cable).
>> All was wonderfull, but after end of install procedure und reboot,
>> I see with this terminal (cu -l /dev/cuaa0) all and the date for
>> the login line. But not the login prompt. So I can't to log in and
>> do anything.
>> What have I to do, to log in this headless PC?
>
> Maksym, you need to start a getty process on the serial line,
> by editing /etc/ttys like this:
>
>
> console none                            unknown off secure
> ttyv0   "/usr/libexec/getty Pc"         cons25  off  secure
> ttyv1   "/usr/libexec/getty Pc"         cons25  off  secure
> ttyv2   "/usr/libexec/getty Pc"         cons25  off  secure
> ttyv3   "/usr/libexec/getty Pc"         cons25  off  secure
> ttyv4   "/usr/libexec/getty Pc"         cons25  off  secure
> ttyv5   "/usr/libexec/getty Pc"         cons25  off  secure
> ttyv6   "/usr/libexec/getty Pc"         cons25  off  secure
> ttyv7   "/usr/libexec/getty Pc"         cons25  off  secure
> ttyd0   "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600"   dialup  on secure
> ttyd1   "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600"   dialup  off secure
> ttyd2   "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600"   dialup  off secure
> ttyd3   "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600"   dialup  off secure
>
> In /stand/sysinstall (or /usr/sbin/sysinstall), you can edit
> ttys.
>
> I'm running 5.2-CURRENT on net4801 Soekris hardware, and this
> is exaclty what is needed to get login prompt on the serial
> console.


Thanks! It works pre[tty] good! :-)
I have two more questions :

Sometimes I see warning:
terminal is not fully functional.
So I can't edit kernel file mit ee - the text is shown "shifted" in their 
lines.
Must I use another terminal program to help this?

And what you can do with "headless" PC? Can you control this PC only in
command prompt? Or (may be) you can use anything like X - twm?

Thanks in advance.

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On Mon, 2 Aug 2004 20:17:08 -0400
epilogue <epilogue@allstream.net> wrote:

> 
> thanks to some very kind help from dejan, and after a little stress
> testing on my end, i believe that it is safe to declare this problem
> solved.
> 
> ----------
> the fix:
> ----------
> 
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/symbols/pc/pc
> 
> <snip>
>   //  Fake keys for virtual<->real modifiers mapping 
>     key <LVL3> {        [ ISO_Level3_Shift      ]       };
>     key <MDSW> {        [ Mode_switch           ]       };
>     modifier_map Mod5   { <LVL3>, <MDSW> };
> 
>     key <ALT>  {        [ NoSymbol, Alt_L       ]       };
>     modifier_map Mod1   { <ALT>, <LALT> };
> <snip>
> 
> add <RALT> to:
>     modifier_map Mod1   { <ALT>, <LALT>, <RALT> };

since the first adjustment, i eventually noted a slight change in the way
the windows key was functioning (dropping certain keypresses). to restore
the expected behaviour, i simply added <LWIN> and <RWIN> to another line in
the same section of file mentioned above:

    key <SUPR> {        [ NoSymbol, Super_L     ]       };
//  modifier_map Mod4   { <SUPR> };
    modifier_map Mod4   { <SUPR>, <LWIN>, <RWIN> };

as there is only 1 windows key on my keyboard, i am not certain whether
both WIN values were strictly necessary, but all seems now to be working.


> save file and restart x.
> 
> 
> hello anholt,
> copying you in case you want to feed this back up the pipe to xorg. 
> dejan also located this old link, which you might find of interest:
> 
> http://bugs.xfree86.org/show_bug.cgi?id=580
> 
> 
> cheers,
> epi
> 
> --------------
> On Mon, 2 Aug 2004 15:42:53 -0400
> epilogue <epilogue@allstream.net> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > hello all,
> > 
> > well, i was beginning to think that i was either hallucinating or
> > suffering from some sort of bizarre nerve damage...   but i seem to
> > have made some progress in analysing this problem.
> > 
> > i have attached a (sorted and commented) file with output from xev. 
> > the problem always affects only the right-alt key, despite the various
> > xkbmodels i select (or leave blank).
> > 
> > i also came across two other reports of the same behaviour:
> > 
> > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2004/06/msg01410.html
> > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=261816
> > 
> > as you can see, they're from deb.  they seem to have isolated the
> > problem to a symbols/pc file within x11, not fluxbox.  a patch is
> > provided, but it does not apply cleanly to the version of xorg that i
> > have installed.
> > 
> > i would very much appreciate any suggestions.
> > 
> > 
> > thank you,
> > epi
> > 
> > ---------------
> > Begin forwarded message:
> > 
> > Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 00:33:30 -0400
> > From: epilogue <epilogue@allstream.net>
> > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-x11@freebsd.org
> > Subject: wm dropping keypresses since moving to xorg (strange)
> > 
> > 
> > hello x11, questions,
> > 
> > i have some reservations about sending this in, because it sounds a bit
> > weird, but i've jumped through all the usual self-serve hoops and i'm
> > about at my wits end.
> > 
> > since switching to xorg, when i alt+tab to a window with my wm of
> > choice(fluxbox-devel), the 1st keypress is always dropped in the new
> > window, regardless of whether that window is a *term, mail client,
> > browser, ...
> > 
> > say i alt+tab to an xterm.  for 'man' to appear on the command line, i
> > must type 'mman' or 'ccd' for 'cd'.
> > 
> > the window only drops that 1st key.  if i alt+tab away and come back,
> > it will again drop only the 1st key.
> > 
> > 
> > here is what i know:
> > 
> > 1) it doesn't happen if i use the mouse.
> > 2) this problem was not apparent when i tested for it with icewm or
> > xfce4. 3) fluxbox used to play very nicely with xfree.
> > 
> > 
> > here is what i've tried:
> > 
> > 1) google, fbsd and xorg mailing lists.
> > 2) contacted the fluxbox developers over irc.  several are running xorg
> > and fluxbox on linux without the problems i'm seeing.    (?!)
> > 3) rebuilt xorg then fluxbox-devel.  removed .fluxbox to ensure that
> > the default settings would load.
> > 4) played with xorg.conf (used old xfree.conf, built a new xorg.conf,
> > and changed various settings withing xorg.conf)
> > 5) attempted to pinpoint the issue via xev, but failed miserably.
> > 
> > 
> > it smells like some sort of 'focus' problem to me.  any suggestions
> > would be very much appreciated.
> > 
> > hoping that i'm not alone here.
> > 
> > 
> > thanks,
> > epi
> > 
> > 
> > p.s. a little additional info for any of you who know a bit about
> > fluxbox settings.  the problem seems only to occur with those
> > keybindings(like alt+tab) which are mapped to 'NextWindow' or
> > 'NextWindow 1' but_not_ with 'NextTab'.  naturally, the same holds true
> > for the shift+foo combos which translate to 'Previous____'.
> > _______________________________________________
> > freebsd-x11@freebsd.org mailing list
> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-x11
> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-x11-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
> > 
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On Tuesday 03 August 2004 02:07, Chuck Rock wrote:
> I had a similar problem with this release running on any Dell 2550 Rack
> server I had. I tried three different servers with the same config, and I
> had kernel panics at various times. All of them had different information
> on the screen at each panic.
>
> I had several people tel lme they had no such problems with the same
> systems.
>
> I chalked it up to bad driver for the PERC3/DC raid controller. All panics
> seemd to happen under very high disk I/O. The machine would run fine for a
> few days, then just puke.
>
> I moved all the stuff over to a refurb Compaq Dual Xeon 2.8, and have had
> only one problem lockup in the 5 months I've been running it under
> increasing loads. The last lockup I had also seemed related to disk I/O.
>
> Otherwise, 5.2.1 has been a very stable production server processing over
> 1 million E-mail's a day incoming and hundred thousand out.
>
> Chuck
>

During my traineeship we had an PowerEdge 2650 (Dual Xeon with FreeBSD 5.1 =
at=20
that time). The machine had quite high loads (8.00 - 11.00, which was 24/7)=
,=20
but it kept working most times. Sometimes after a few days or weeks it=20
resulted in a panic. My mentor (who was the Unix specialist) said that it w=
as=20
probably been caused by the RAID controller as well. It was a PERC2/DC or=20
PERC3/DC, not really sure. I think it's the latter. Anyway, when 5.2 came=20
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solid, even with very high loads. It was a monitoring machine, which=20
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Perhaps the story is not interesting, but I felt like sharing that.

Cheers,

Jorn


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Any one had any luck getting this to work under 5.2.1 p9?
It is detected as a pentax pentax optio 30 (that's not a misprint)
but as attatches as ugen0 which I presume means that umass does not
recognize it?=20

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Hi guys,

I try loggin in KDE usin Alsemo (my normal user's id) and put the
password then I hit [Enter]. The KDE's splash screen appeared and all
of the sudden the splash screen is gone and froze. Ctrl+Alt+F* and
Ctrl+Alt+BackSpace didn't do any good and the mouse is immobilized. I
had to hard-reboot and when the KDM greeted me again, I try loggin in
to KDE again usin Alsemo but after I hit [Enter], the screen went back
to KDM creatin an endless cycle of tryin to log in but failed. dmesg
tells me:

pid 676 (ksplash), uid 1001: exited on signal 11 (core dumped)
pid 687 (kdeinit), uid 1001: exited on signal 11 (core dumped)
pid 688 (kdeinit), uid 1001: exited on signal 11 (core dumped)
pid 690 (kdeinit), uid 1001: exited on signal 11 (core dumped)
pid 693 (kdeinit), uid 1001: exited on signal 11 (core dumped)

and there's kdeinit.core and ksplash.core dumps in my home directory.
There's also a .xsession-errors file which says:

startkde: Starting up...
Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
QSettings: malformed line '' in group 'General'
QSettings: malformed line '' in group 'General'
QSettings: malformed line '' in group 'General'
QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used
QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used
Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
QSettings: malformed line '' in group 'General'
DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-686' to 'kded'
ERROR: Communication problem with kded, it probably crashed.
Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
QSettings: malformed line '' in group 'General'
Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
QSettings: malformed line '' in group 'General'
DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-689' to 'knotify'
ERROR: Communication problem with knotify, it probably crashed.
Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
QSettings: malformed line '' in group 'General'
startkde: Shutting down...
KLauncher: Exiting on signal 1
startkde: Running shutdown scripts...
startkde: Done.

I'm totally lost. I tried disablin KDM in /etc/ttys and Alsemo can log
in X (not KDE). When I enable KDM again, the same error persist. The
mind-bogglin thing bout this is that root can log in KDE without
problem. Help/tips are very much appreciated. If the output of
kdeinit.core & ksplash.core is needed, I'll post it in the next email.
Thanks!

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On Tuesday 03 August 2004 12:42, Ahmad Zulkarnain wrote:
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>
[snip]
>
> startkde: Starting up...
> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".

You already gave the answer to your problem. Make sure you load the GLX=20
module, which can be enabled in your XF86Config file.

Cheers,

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Jorn Argelo wrote:

| On Tuesday 03 August 2004 12:42, Ahmad Zulkarnain wrote:
|
|> Hi guys,
|
| [snip]
|
|> startkde: Starting up... Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on
|> display ":0.0".
|
|
| You already gave the answer to your problem. Make sure you load the
| GLX module, which can be enabled in your XF86Config file.
|
| Cheers,
|
| Jorn
|
|
The Glx problem seems to be solve (Thanks Jorn) but my normal user's
id still can't log in KDE. Here's the new .xsession-errors output.

startkde: Starting up...
QSettings: malformed line '' in group 'General'
QSettings: malformed line '' in group 'General'
QSettings: malformed line '' in group 'General'
QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used
QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used
QSettings: malformed line '' in group 'General'
DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-559' to 'kded'
ERROR: Communication problem with kded, it probably crashed.
QSettings: malformed line '' in group 'General'
QSettings: malformed line '' in group 'General'
DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-562' to 'knotify'
ERROR: Communication problem with knotify, it probably crashed.
QSettings: malformed line '' in group 'General'
startkde: Shutting down...
KLauncher: Exiting on signal 1
startkde: Running shutdown scripts...
startkde: Done.

and I got this new xclock.core dump in my home directory. Help is
appreciated. Thanks.

vampire# uname -a
FreeBSD vampire.home.net 5.2.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE #2: Sun
Jun 20 03:25:38 MYT 2004
Alsemo@vampire.home.net:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/VAMKERNEL i386

runnin on Clevo M22ES

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On Tuesday 03 August 2004 13:51, Ahmad Zulkarnain wrote:
> Jorn Argelo wrote:
> | On Tuesday 03 August 2004 12:42, Ahmad Zulkarnain wrote:
> |> Hi guys,
> |
> | [snip]
> |
> |> startkde: Starting up... Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on
> |> display ":0.0".
> |
> | You already gave the answer to your problem. Make sure you load the
> | GLX module, which can be enabled in your XF86Config file.
> |
> | Cheers,
> |
> | Jorn
>
> The Glx problem seems to be solve (Thanks Jorn) but my normal user's
> id still can't log in KDE. Here's the new .xsession-errors output.
>
> startkde: Starting up...
> QSettings: malformed line '' in group 'General'
> QSettings: malformed line '' in group 'General'
> QSettings: malformed line '' in group 'General'
> QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used
> QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used
> QSettings: malformed line '' in group 'General'
> DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-559' to 'kded'
> ERROR: Communication problem with kded, it probably crashed.
> QSettings: malformed line '' in group 'General'
> QSettings: malformed line '' in group 'General'
> DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-562' to 'knotify'
> ERROR: Communication problem with knotify, it probably crashed.
> QSettings: malformed line '' in group 'General'
> startkde: Shutting down...
> KLauncher: Exiting on signal 1
> startkde: Running shutdown scripts...
> startkde: Done.
>
> and I got this new xclock.core dump in my home directory. Help is
> appreciated. Thanks.
>
> vampire# uname -a
> FreeBSD vampire.home.net 5.2.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE #2: Sun
> Jun 20 03:25:38 MYT 2004
> Alsemo@vampire.home.net:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/VAMKERNEL i386
>
> runnin on Clevo M22ES

Can you give us your XF86Config file? Also, post all the relevant errors=20
from /var/log/XFree86.log=20

Jorn

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If found out ntfs kernel module doesn't support writing. Is there an
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advanced features (like ACL, resident files, etc.) are needed, just simple
write operations to make some apps run in wine.

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Hello all,

I am trying to set up a Samsung ML-1510 on my 4.10 release server. I've
had a look at linuxprinting.org and it is supported but i'm not clear on
what i need to install/do to get it working on FreeBSD.

Can i use cups? I see there is cups and cups-lpr in ports.

Could anyone give some advice on an easy way to get this up-and-running?

Thanks,
Gareth Bailey


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Jorn Argelo wrote:

| On Tuesday 03 August 2004 13:51, Ahmad Zulkarnain wrote:
|
|> Jorn Argelo wrote: | On Tuesday 03 August 2004 12:42, Ahmad
|> Zulkarnain wrote: |> Hi guys, | | [snip] | |> startkde: Starting
|> up... Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on |> display ":0.0". | |
|> You already gave the answer to your problem. Make sure you load
|> the | GLX module, which can be enabled in your XF86Config file. |
|>  | Cheers, | | Jorn
|
|> The Glx problem seems to be solve (Thanks Jorn) but my normal
|> user's id still can't log in KDE. Here's the new .xsession-errors
|> output.
|
|> startkde: Starting up... QSettings: malformed line '' in group
|> 'General' QSettings: malformed line '' in group 'General'
|> QSettings: malformed line '' in group 'General' QPixmap: Cannot
|> create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used QPixmap: Cannot create
|> a QPixmap when no GUI is being used QSettings: malformed line ''
|> in group 'General' DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-559' to
|> 'kded' ERROR: Communication problem with kded, it probably
|> crashed. QSettings: malformed line '' in group 'General'
|> QSettings: malformed line '' in group 'General' DCOP aborting
|> call from 'anonymous-562' to 'knotify' ERROR: Communication
|> problem with knotify, it probably crashed. QSettings: malformed
|> line '' in group 'General' startkde: Shutting down... KLauncher:
|> Exiting on signal 1 startkde: Running shutdown scripts...
|> startkde: Done.
|
|> and I got this new xclock.core dump in my home directory. Help is
|>  appreciated. Thanks.
|
|> vampire# uname -a FreeBSD vampire.home.net 5.2.1-RELEASE FreeBSD
|> 5.2.1-RELEASE #2: Sun Jun 20 03:25:38 MYT 2004
|> Alsemo@vampire.home.net:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/VAMKERNEL i386
|
|> runnin on Clevo M22ES
|
|
| Can you give us your XF86Config file? Also, post all the relevant
| errors from /var/log/XFree86.log
|
| Jorn
|
Sorry fer late reply, I have to swap back & forth from FreeBSD - XP
coz FreeBSD is currently unable to go internet.

As I'm still dumb bout FreeBSD, I can't make out what's the relevant
error(s) that I should post. Because the files is quite lengthy, I
hope url is ok fer postin and I've just uploaded the files as stated
below.

<a
href="http://home.graffiti.net/alsemo/contents/XF86Config.txt">/etc/X11/XF86Config</a>

<a
href="http://home.graffiti.net/alsemo/contents/kdm.log.txt">/var/log/kdm.log</a>
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<a
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I hope this is the correct files. My root account seems to be fine
when loggin in KDE with no error whatsoever. Thanks again. Sorry fer
takin your time.

- --
Karl
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| On Tuesday 03 August 2004 13:51, Ahmad Zulkarnain wrote:
|
|> Jorn Argelo wrote: | On Tuesday 03 August 2004 12:42, Ahmad
|> Zulkarnain wrote: |> Hi guys, | | [snip] | |> startkde: Starting
|> up... Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on |> display ":0.0". | |
|> You already gave the answer to your problem. Make sure you load
|> the | GLX module, which can be enabled in your XF86Config file. |
|>  | Cheers, | | Jorn
|
|> The Glx problem seems to be solve (Thanks Jorn) but my normal
|> user's id still can't log in KDE. Here's the new .xsession-errors
|> output.
|
|> startkde: Starting up... QSettings: malformed line '' in group
|> 'General' QSettings: malformed line '' in group 'General'
|> QSettings: malformed line '' in group 'General' QPixmap: Cannot
|> create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used QPixmap: Cannot create
|> a QPixmap when no GUI is being used QSettings: malformed line ''
|> in group 'General' DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-559' to
|> 'kded' ERROR: Communication problem with kded, it probably
|> crashed. QSettings: malformed line '' in group 'General'
|> QSettings: malformed line '' in group 'General' DCOP aborting
|> call from 'anonymous-562' to 'knotify' ERROR: Communication
|> problem with knotify, it probably crashed. QSettings: malformed
|> line '' in group 'General' startkde: Shutting down... KLauncher:
|> Exiting on signal 1 startkde: Running shutdown scripts...
|> startkde: Done.
|
|> and I got this new xclock.core dump in my home directory. Help is
|>  appreciated. Thanks.
|
|> vampire# uname -a FreeBSD vampire.home.net 5.2.1-RELEASE FreeBSD
|> 5.2.1-RELEASE #2: Sun Jun 20 03:25:38 MYT 2004
|> Alsemo@vampire.home.net:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/VAMKERNEL i386
|
|> runnin on Clevo M22ES
|
|
| Can you give us your XF86Config file? Also, post all the relevant
| errors from /var/log/XFree86.log
|
| Jorn
|
Sorry fer late reply, I have to swap back & forth from FreeBSD - XP
coz FreeBSD is currently unable to go internet.

As I'm still dumb bout FreeBSD, I can't make out what's the relevant
error(s) that I should post. Because the files is quite lengthy, I
hope url is ok fer postin and I've just uploaded the files as stated
below.

<a
href="http://home.graffiti.net/alsemo/contents/XF86Config.txt">/etc/X11/XF86Config</a>

<a
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<a
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<a
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I hope this is the correct files. My root account seems to be fine
when loggin in KDE with no error whatsoever. Thanks again. Sorry fer
takin your time.

- --
Karl
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I'm using FreeBSD 4.10 with a custom kernel. I have two problems:
1) If ACPI support activated, my fdc0 does not work (the kernel can not reserve I/O port addresses for it). Without ACPI, everything works OK, but:
2) When using kdm as display manager, if I select GNOME session as root and then try to halt/reboot directly from the GNOME's logout menu, the system appears to hang until I press Ctrl-Alt-Del. After that, the system reboots (of course). What's the problem? How can I solve it? This is not encountered in Linux, for example.
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Hello,

On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 14:47:48 +0200
"Gareth Bailey" <freebsd@ubersoft.co.za> wrote:

> Hello all,
> 
> I am trying to set up a Samsung ML-1510 on my 4.10 release server. I've
> had a look at linuxprinting.org and it is supported but i'm not clear on
> what i need to install/do to get it working on FreeBSD.
> 
> Can i use cups? I see there is cups and cups-lpr in ports.
I don't have 1510, but i use ML-1250 and cups without any problems. I don't remember where, but when i interested does freebsd support my printer, i read that i must choose type like HP LaserJet 4 series
> 
> Could anyone give some advice on an easy way to get this up-and-running?
> 
> Thanks,
> Gareth Bailey
> 
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Matt <finitesoup@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have a machine running 4.10-RELEASE-p2 with two identical hard disks
> -- ad0 and ad2. I would like to make a complete copy of the first disk
> to the second disk nightly for quick disaster recovery.
> 
> I've dd'ed the disk as follows
> 
> # dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/ad2
> 
> and edited the disklabel of the second disk to change ad0s1 to ad2s1 as follows
> 
> # disklabel -e -r ad2
> 
> However, I'm still unable to mount the root partion (or any other
> partition) of the second disk to tweak /etc/fstab etc. even though
> 
> # mount /dev/ad2s1a /mnt
> mount: /dev/ad2s1a: Operation not permitted

What is your securelevel?  See man securelevel.

> 
> What am I missing? Is there anything else I need to do beyond editing
> the disklabel to allow me to use the "mirrored" disk?
> 
> Output of disklabel for the two disks follows:
> 
> # disklabel ad0
> # /dev/ad0c:
> type: ESDI
> disk: ad0s1
> label: 
> flags:
> bytes/sector: 512
> sectors/track: 63
> tracks/cylinder: 255
> sectors/cylinder: 16065
> cylinders: 4864
> sectors/unit: 78156162
> rpm: 3600
> interleave: 1
> trackskew: 0
> cylinderskew: 0
> headswitch: 0           # milliseconds
> track-to-track seek: 0  # milliseconds
> drivedata: 0 
> 
> 8 partitions:
> #        size   offset    fstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
>   a:   409600        0    4.2BSD     2048 16384    97   # (Cyl.    0 - 25*)
>   b:  5242880   409600      swap                        # (Cyl.   25*- 351*)
>   c: 78156162        0    unused        0     0         # (Cyl.    0 - 4864*)
>   e:  4194304  5652480    4.2BSD     2048 16384    89   # (Cyl.  351*- 612*)
>   f: 10485760  9846784    4.2BSD     2048 16384    89   # (Cyl.  612*- 1265*)
>   g: 18874368 20332544    4.2BSD     2048 16384    89   # (Cyl. 1265*- 2440*)
> 
> # disklabel ad2
> # /dev/ad2c:
> type: ESDI
> disk: ad2s1
> label: 
> flags:
> bytes/sector: 512
> sectors/track: 63
> tracks/cylinder: 255
> sectors/cylinder: 16065
> cylinders: 4864
> sectors/unit: 78156162
> rpm: 3600
> interleave: 1
> trackskew: 0
> cylinderskew: 0
> headswitch: 0           # milliseconds
> track-to-track seek: 0  # milliseconds
> drivedata: 0 
> 
> 8 partitions:
> #        size   offset    fstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
>   a:   409600        0    4.2BSD     2048 16384    97   # (Cyl.    0 - 25*)
>   b:  5242880   409600      swap                        # (Cyl.   25*- 351*)
>   c: 78156162        0    unused        0     0         # (Cyl.    0 - 4864*)
>   e:  4194304  5652480    4.2BSD     2048 16384    89   # (Cyl.  351*- 612*)
>   f: 10485760  9846784    4.2BSD     2048 16384    89   # (Cyl.  612*- 1265*)
>   g: 18874368 20332544    4.2BSD     2048 16384    89   # (Cyl. 1265*- 2440*)
> 
> Thanks for any insight, and let me know if you need to see anything else.
> 
> -Matt
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For years I have backed up my FreeBSD systems using tcopy.  I use removeable disk trays for fast recovery.  All disks are configured bus master and are connected to different IDE controllers.
 
tcopy /dev/ad0 /dev/ad2
fsck -y /dev/ad2a
 
works just great!  There's just a whinge from tcopy when it tries to rewind the disk (tcopy = 'tape copy').  The only caveat is that the drives should be identical.
 
Now for my question.  I have been trying to get a USB ISDN modem (Microcom ISDN USB Travel/C) hooked up.  Currently using FreeBSD 4.8.  After googling etc I found references to "device umodem" & "device ucom".  Tried compiling them in, but nothing other than the ugen driver finds the modem.
 
The modem never even powers up, though it works fine with Windoze.  Can anyone point me in the right direction?
 
Chris Martinus

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> 
> Matt <finitesoup@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > I have a machine running 4.10-RELEASE-p2 with two identical hard disks
> > -- ad0 and ad2. I would like to make a complete copy of the first disk
> > to the second disk nightly for quick disaster recovery.
> > 
> > I've dd'ed the disk as follows
> > 
> > # dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/ad2
> > 
> > and edited the disklabel of the second disk to change ad0s1 to ad2s1 as follows
> > 
> > # disklabel -e -r ad2
> > 
> > However, I'm still unable to mount the root partion (or any other
> > partition) of the second disk to tweak /etc/fstab etc. even though
> > 
> > # mount /dev/ad2s1a /mnt
> > mount: /dev/ad2s1a: Operation not permitted

Not an answer to your specific question, but I would suggest doing
the whole thing a little differently.

First fdisk, disklabel and newfs the drive to make the filesystems
you want, including making the slice bootable, etc.   Then copy
each filesystem on the previous disk using dump(8)/restore(8).   
If you have enough scratch space, you can dump to files in spare space 
and then restore from those.  Or, you can pipe a dump to a restore.  
It is preferable to using dd for something like this.

////jerry

> 
> What is your securelevel?  See man securelevel.
> 
> > 
> > What am I missing? Is there anything else I need to do beyond editing
> > the disklabel to allow me to use the "mirrored" disk?
> > 
> > Output of disklabel for the two disks follows:
> > 
> > # disklabel ad0
> > # /dev/ad0c:
> > type: ESDI
> > disk: ad0s1
> > label: 
> > flags:
> > bytes/sector: 512
> > sectors/track: 63
> > tracks/cylinder: 255
> > sectors/cylinder: 16065
> > cylinders: 4864
> > sectors/unit: 78156162
> > rpm: 3600
> > interleave: 1
> > trackskew: 0
> > cylinderskew: 0
> > headswitch: 0           # milliseconds
> > track-to-track seek: 0  # milliseconds
> > drivedata: 0 
> > 
> > 8 partitions:
> > #        size   offset    fstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
> >   a:   409600        0    4.2BSD     2048 16384    97   # (Cyl.    0 - 25*)
> >   b:  5242880   409600      swap                        # (Cyl.   25*- 351*)
> >   c: 78156162        0    unused        0     0         # (Cyl.    0 - 4864*)
> >   e:  4194304  5652480    4.2BSD     2048 16384    89   # (Cyl.  351*- 612*)
> >   f: 10485760  9846784    4.2BSD     2048 16384    89   # (Cyl.  612*- 1265*)
> >   g: 18874368 20332544    4.2BSD     2048 16384    89   # (Cyl. 1265*- 2440*)
> > 
> > # disklabel ad2
> > # /dev/ad2c:
> > type: ESDI
> > disk: ad2s1
> > label: 
> > flags:
> > bytes/sector: 512
> > sectors/track: 63
> > tracks/cylinder: 255
> > sectors/cylinder: 16065
> > cylinders: 4864
> > sectors/unit: 78156162
> > rpm: 3600
> > interleave: 1
> > trackskew: 0
> > cylinderskew: 0
> > headswitch: 0           # milliseconds
> > track-to-track seek: 0  # milliseconds
> > drivedata: 0 
> > 
> > 8 partitions:
> > #        size   offset    fstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
> >   a:   409600        0    4.2BSD     2048 16384    97   # (Cyl.    0 - 25*)
> >   b:  5242880   409600      swap                        # (Cyl.   25*- 351*)
> >   c: 78156162        0    unused        0     0         # (Cyl.    0 - 4864*)
> >   e:  4194304  5652480    4.2BSD     2048 16384    89   # (Cyl.  351*- 612*)
> >   f: 10485760  9846784    4.2BSD     2048 16384    89   # (Cyl.  612*- 1265*)
> >   g: 18874368 20332544    4.2BSD     2048 16384    89   # (Cyl. 1265*- 2440*)
> > 
> > Thanks for any insight, and let me know if you need to see anything else.
> > 
> > -Matt
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Now for my question.  I have been trying to get a USB ISDN modem
(Microcom ISDN USB Travel/C) hooked up.  Currently using FreeBSD
4.8.  After googling etc I found references to "device umodem" &
"device ucom".  Tried compiling them in, but nothing other than the
ugen driver finds the modem.

The modem never even powers up, though it works fine with Windoze.
Can anyone point me in the right direction?

Chris Martinus
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Sounds like your USB modem is a ms/windows modem.  They are not
supported in FreeBSD.

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Hi there,

I would like to know if there is a Certification Program for FreeBSD, 
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Mark wrote:

> The goal is simple: I want to limit connections to port 25 to 32 in
> total, targeted at "me". And of those 32, only 4 per source. Like so:
>
> ipfw add 1 check-state
> ...
> ipfw add 11 allow tcp from any to me 25 setup limit dst-addr 32
> ipfw add 12 allow tcp from any to me 25 setup limit src-addr 4
>
> Please, tell me then how "all wrong" this is. Because I *still* get
> the impression that rule 12 is never reached. And, so far, "ipfw
> show" does, indeed, only show activity on rule 11.

If at all possible, I would still like to hear a suggestion as to how to
combine the two rules. From my pov, the first "allow" in rule 11 makes a
packet pass, provided there are less then 32 connections in total. Thus,
rule 12 never gets invoked (which, indeed, seems to be the case).

Someone suggested to me I was at fault for numbering the rules. Quite
frankly, that does not compute to me, as ipfw autonumbers anyway (in default
steps of 100, I believe). Seriously, I do not mind hearing how "all wrong"
my rules are; but, at the same time, I have not heard a proper way of doing
this.

I appreciate suggestions,

- Mark

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Mark <admin@asarian-host.net> wrote:

> Mark wrote:
> 
> > The goal is simple: I want to limit connections to port 25 to 32 in
> > total, targeted at "me". And of those 32, only 4 per source. Like so:
> >
> > ipfw add 1 check-state
> > ...
> > ipfw add 11 allow tcp from any to me 25 setup limit dst-addr 32
> > ipfw add 12 allow tcp from any to me 25 setup limit src-addr 4
> >
> > Please, tell me then how "all wrong" this is. Because I *still* get
> > the impression that rule 12 is never reached. And, so far, "ipfw
> > show" does, indeed, only show activity on rule 11.
> 
> If at all possible, I would still like to hear a suggestion as to how to
> combine the two rules. From my pov, the first "allow" in rule 11 makes a
> packet pass, provided there are less then 32 connections in total. Thus,
> rule 12 never gets invoked (which, indeed, seems to be the case).

How about using skipto instead of allow?  Thus, if it passes the first one,
it can just skipto the next rule to be checked.  i.e.:

ipfw add 11 skipto 12 tcp from any to me 25 setup limit dst-addr 32
ipfw add 12 allow tcp from any to me 25 setup limit src-addr 4

Thus, if rule 11 pases, it skips to rule 12.  If it fails, it should reject
as always.  The end result is that a packet _must_ pass both rules to be
allowed.

Note that I haven't tried this, so I could be wrong in how it works.

-- 
Bill Moran
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Dear Chuck

I tried mrtg in net-mgmt before. but the graphic only
supports max 10M. I read newsgroup and don't know how
to make it in 1000M

I am just upgrading the lease line from 100M to 1000M
and know where to get software to monitor on it

Thank you very much



 --- Chuck Swiger <cswiger@mac.com> wrote: 
> adrian kok wrote:
> > Can you tell me in details?
> 
> Sure-- if you ask a specific question, you will get
> a detailed answer.
> 
> > I need the bandwidth software to create graph in
> 1G
> 
> Your question is unclear.  You may be asking about
> drivers for gigabit 
> ethernet NICs (see "man gx", "man bge", "man sk"). 
> Or maybe bandwidth 
> management and traffic shaping (see "man dummynet"),
> or maybe you're talking 
> about something else like network management tools
> which produce pretty charts 
> and graphs (see "ls /usr/ports/net-mgmt").
> 
> -- 
> -Chuck
> 
>  

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Dear Sir

Thank you for your help

Can dummynet apply in router also?

I run the freebsd as router

I saw doc about dummynet is in bridge in the freebsd
handbook

Thank yo again 

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> you ipfw to create counters for what you need, read
> it regularly (cron
> etc.), then process data to greate some graphs etc.
> (maybe gnuplot).
> 
> Possibly there are something that will do this for
> you.
> 
> 
> if you like just to get how big traffic goes through
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Hi there. :$
Perhaps it is not a good start for a letter to such an organization, but I hope to be excused (please). And, quite straightforward, i wish to ask you a question. I can't find an answer to it in any FreeBSD FAQ, so - 

The problem that I have is how to orgainze cluster between (with) a number of FreeBSD AND Linux servers. OR, if that is not suitable, using several FreeBSD servers. I couldn't find any information explaining that variant of using FreeBSD, so here goes the question: 

are FreeBSD-with-Linux clusters really possible?

And, in case of positive answer, here is the next question - where can I find any information about how it will become possible?
How to make Linux/FreeBSD (preferably), or only FreeBSD servers work together in a cluster?

Again wishing you all the best and waiting for answer - 
							Anton Suhonosenko
							hurr@ukr.net
							ICQ 143779294

P.S. I am sorry for my terrible english.

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Then you didn't search too far. MRTG can easily be adapted to display
link speeds of any value. Read up on the MRTG documentation,
specifically MaxBytes values.

- Alex
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On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 03:24:27 +0800 (CST), adrian kok
<adriankok2000@yahoo.com.hk> wrote:
> Dear Chuck
> 
> I tried mrtg in net-mgmt before. but the graphic only
> supports max 10M. I read newsgroup and don't know how
> to make it in 1000M
> 
> I am just upgrading the lease line from 100M to 1000M
> and know where to get software to monitor on it
> 
> Thank you very much

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> 
> Hi there,
> 
> I would like to know if there is a Certification Program for FreeBSD, 
> OpenBSD or
> NetBSD, like SUN's Solaris Certification Program for example.
> 
> If there is, what is the procedure to make the exam(s)? I am in
> Salvador/Bahia/BRAZIL.

The short answer is no.
Some other people may wish to give a more comprehensive answer.

Anyway, the FreeBSD organization is not a company in the same sense 
as Sun or Microsloth, etc that can set up a program to certify people 
in its wonders.    The FreeBSD organization is a group of volunteers 
from all over the world that contribute to make the system.  Although
there is a core group that steers the project and tries to make sure
additions and modifications are clean and meet standards, there is
nothing that specifies the official way you must use the system.

But, I have heard of some organizations that have undertaken to make
up some training for FreeBSD and for UNIX in general.   It seemd even
like one might be in Brazil.  But, I do not remember names or addresses.
You might do some Google searching for FreeBSD training or something
like that and see what you get.

////jerry

> 
> Thanks in advance,
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Bill Moran wrote:

>> Mark wrote:
>> 
>>> The goal is simple: I want to limit connections to port 25 to 32 in
>>> total, targeted at "me". And of those 32, only 4 per source. Like
>>> so: 
>>> 
>>> ipfw add 1 check-state
>>> ...
>>> ipfw add 11 allow tcp from any to me 25 setup limit dst-addr 32
>>> ipfw add 12 allow tcp from any to me 25 setup limit src-addr 4
>>> 
>>> Please, tell me then how "all wrong" this is. Because I *still* get
>>> the impression that rule 12 is never reached. And, so far, "ipfw
>>> show" does, indeed, only show activity on rule 11.
>> 
>> If at all possible, I would still like to hear a suggestion as to
>> how to combine the two rules. From my pov, the first "allow" in rule
>> 11 makes a packet pass, provided there are less then 32 connections
>> in total. Thus, rule 12 never gets invoked (which, indeed, seems to
>> be the case). 
> 
> How about using skipto instead of allow?  Thus, if it passes the
> first one, it can just skipto the next rule to be checked.  i.e.:
> 
> ipfw add 11 skipto 12 tcp from any to me 25 setup limit dst-addr 32
> ipfw add 12 allow tcp from any to me 25 setup limit src-addr 4
> 
> Thus, if rule 11 pases, it skips to rule 12.  If it fails, it should
> reject as always. The end result is that a packet _must_ pass both
> rules to be allowed.

Thanks!! This does, indeed, exactly what I want. :)

- Mark

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> 
> Hi there. :$
> Perhaps it is not a good start for a letter to such an organization, but I hope to be excused (please). And, quite straightforward, i wish to ask you a question. I can't find an answer to it in any FreeBSD FAQ, so - 
> 
> The problem that I have is how to orgainze cluster between (with) a number of FreeBSD AND Linux servers. OR, if that is not suitable, using several FreeBSD servers. I couldn't find any information explaining that variant of using FreeBSD, so here goes the question: 
> 
> are FreeBSD-with-Linux clusters really possible?

Just to be clear:
By cluster, do you mean multiple hosts working on some large computational
problem with message passing, may MPI?    You might check in the ports
to see if there is something to support this sort of thing.  I haven't 
looked, but wouldn't be real surprised.

Go to:        http://www.freebsd.org/ports/

and do some fishing.   Then do some Googling or other searches.

Sounds interesting.
Good luck,

////jerry

> 
> And, in case of positive answer, here is the next question - where can I find any information about how it will become possible?
> How to make Linux/FreeBSD (preferably), or only FreeBSD servers work together in a cluster?
> 
> Again wishing you all the best and waiting for answer - 
> 							Anton Suhonosenko
> 							hurr@ukr.net
> 							ICQ 143779294
> 
> P.S. I am sorry for my terrible english.
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Just looking at the Makefile for lang/php4-extensions
and I see in the list of options SYBASE_CT but no SYBASE_DB.

I think my existing PHP setup was compiled with SYBASE_DB,=20
certainly phpinfo() reveals in the Sybase section:

> $Id: dblib.c,v 1.160.2.1 2004/04/04 09:07:04 freddy77 Exp $

I also recall I did try SYBASE_CT last time I installed but
had no success. So now I'm concerned that if I upgrade PHP I
will lose Sybase connectivity.

If anyone has upgraded and think they previously used DB-Lib
I'd appreciate knowing whether everything was OK after the
upgrade.

jim

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Bill Moran wrote:

> How about using skipto instead of allow?  Thus, if it passes the
> first one, it can just skipto the next rule to be checked.  i.e.:
> 
> ipfw add 11 skipto 12 tcp from any to me 25 setup limit dst-addr 32
> ipfw add 12 allow tcp from any to me 25 setup limit src-addr 4
> 
> Thus, if rule 11 pases, it skips to rule 12.  If it fails, it should
> reject as always.  The end result is that a packet _must_ pass both
> rules to be allowed.

I spoke too soon. :( It seems this sort of rules evokes a bug:

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ipfw/2004-April/001084.html

My whole console is flooded with messages like these:

    "ipfw: install_state: entry already present, done"

Is there a known patch?

Thanks,

- Mark

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I am using an DTR athlon 64 3200 and a desktop mainboard, but the cpu
speed  kernel detects is only 800MHz. Is there solution to increase
the cpu working frequency? I know that acpi.throttle sets might do the
job, but they are unavailable on the desktop system.

So can acpi.throttle.* be used on a desktop? Or anyone have the
problem same as me?

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Hey guys,

Question, when NAT overloading is it possible to use only IPFW rules to pass TCP/UDP packects to remote ip addresses within the network? Or do you have to use natd...because IPFW allows you to execute the following for example:

****************************************************
ip from 192.168.99.100 80 to 192.168.99.101 9981
****************************************************

or even in conjunction with a dummynet rule of somesort?


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Mark wrote:

> Bill Moran wrote:
>
>> How about using skipto instead of allow?  Thus, if it passes the
>> first one, it can just skipto the next rule to be checked.  i.e.:
>>
>> ipfw add 11 skipto 12 tcp from any to me 25 setup limit dst-addr 32
>> ipfw add 12 allow tcp from any to me 25 setup limit src-addr 4
>>
>> Thus, if rule 11 pases, it skips to rule 12.  If it fails, it should
>> reject as always.  The end result is that a packet _must_ pass both
>> rules to be allowed.
>
> I spoke too soon. :( It seems this sort of rules evokes a bug:
>
> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ipfw/2004-April/001084.html
>
> My whole console is flooded with messages like these:
>
>     "ipfw: install_state: entry already present, done"
>
> Is there a known patch?

I just took a look at the code:

 if (q != NULL) { /* should never occur */
  if (last_log != time_second) {
   last_log = time_second;
   printf("ipfw: install_state: entry already present, done\n");
  }
  return 0;
 }

What if I just hack the "printf ..." line out of there? Would that 'solve'
it? I know it's dirty; but would things still work?

Thanks,

- Mark

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Hakim Z. Singhji wrote:
> Question, when NAT overloading is it possible to use only IPFW rules to
> pass TCP/UDP packects to remote ip addresses within the network?

I don't know what "NAT overloading" means.

It is possible to use only IPFW rules to pass TCP & UDP packets from one 
interface to another using the fwd action.  However, note that:

           The fwd action does not change the contents of the packet at all.
           In particular, the destination address remains unmodified, so
           packets forwarded to another system will usually be rejected by
           that system unless there is a matching rule on that system to
           capture them.  For packets forwarded locally, the local address
           of the socket will be set to the original destination address of
           the packet.  This makes the netstat(1) entry look rather weird
           but is intended for use with transparent proxy servers.

> Or do you have to use natd...because IPFW allows you to execute
> the following for example:
> ****************************************************
> ip from 192.168.99.100 80 to 192.168.99.101 9981
> ****************************************************

That's the body of an IPFW rule which matches packets with those attributes. 
Without an action ("allow", "deny", "fwd"), what you've written isn't a 
complete rule: it doesn't mean anything by itself.

> or even in conjunction with a dummynet rule of somesort?

Um.  Do you understand the question you are asking?

I don't-- perhaps try using a complete sentence.  Better yet, why don't you 
tell us what your network looks like and what you want to do.  You most likely 
will receive answers which are more specific and more useful to you...

-- 
-Chuck

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> I just took a look at the code:
> 
>  if (q != NULL) { /* should never occur */
>   if (last_log != time_second) {
>    last_log = time_second;
>    printf("ipfw: install_state: entry already present, done\n");
>   }
>   return 0;
>  }
> 
> What if I just hack the "printf ..." line out of there? Would that 'solve'
> it? I know it's dirty; but would things still work?

I'll jump in here as a software manager and say NO!!!!!

Note, I have no idea if it will still work, but as a professional
programmer, the question raises a number of issues :-)

1. First of all, the original programmer took time to comment
   this line:

    if (q != NULL) { /* should never occur */

   OK. There's no indication WHY it should never occur, but still, the comment
   is there.

2. By adding this line: 

    if (last_log != time_second) {

   He's limiting the printed errors to one every second, so you
   are not beeing flooded with as many messages as are actually
   ocurring.

   Is last_log used anywhere else?

3. This line:

     return 0;

   will still return 0 if the error occurs, so the program will
   work the same with or without the diagnostic message.

I'd do some more digging and find out exactly WHY this is a "should never
occur case" to be sure that the log is not needed. If you don't print
the log, then why do the test, except to return 0 :-)

Ralph




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Hello Chuck,

I was wondering if someone could help me answer some questions I have concerning IPFW vs. natd I am trying to allow my FreeBSD 4.10 gateway to perform port forwarding for SSH, SQL*Net and Webservice (Web not as important yet). 

I wanted to know if I can use IPFW as opposed to natd to redirect or pass TCP & UDP (is ICMP out of the question???) to a remote location.  Gateway::192.0.0.1:22 --> remote server 192.0.0.5:22 or 192.0.0.5:9881 for instance. From the configuration of ipfw it appears that it can be done instead of using natd.

Any suggestions or corrections of my logic welcome. Thanks in advance.

HZS

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Subject: Re: Questions on IPFW???

Hakim Z. Singhji wrote:
> Question, when NAT overloading is it possible to use only IPFW rules to
> pass TCP/UDP packects to remote ip addresses within the network?

I don't know what "NAT overloading" means.

It is possible to use only IPFW rules to pass TCP & UDP packets from one 
interface to another using the fwd action.  However, note that:

           The fwd action does not change the contents of the packet at all.
           In particular, the destination address remains unmodified, so
           packets forwarded to another system will usually be rejected by
           that system unless there is a matching rule on that system to
           capture them.  For packets forwarded locally, the local address
           of the socket will be set to the original destination address of
           the packet.  This makes the netstat(1) entry look rather weird
           but is intended for use with transparent proxy servers.

> Or do you have to use natd...because IPFW allows you to execute
> the following for example:
> ****************************************************
> ip from 192.168.99.100 80 to 192.168.99.101 9981
> ****************************************************

That's the body of an IPFW rule which matches packets with those attributes. 
Without an action ("allow", "deny", "fwd"), what you've written isn't a 
complete rule: it doesn't mean anything by itself.

> or even in conjunction with a dummynet rule of somesort?

Um.  Do you understand the question you are asking?

I don't-- perhaps try using a complete sentence.  Better yet, why don't you 
tell us what your network looks like and what you want to do.  You most likely 
will receive answers which are more specific and more useful to you...

-- 
-Chuck


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Mark <admin@asarian-host.net> wrote:

> Mark wrote:
> 
> > Bill Moran wrote:
> >
> >> How about using skipto instead of allow?  Thus, if it passes the
> >> first one, it can just skipto the next rule to be checked.  i.e.:
> >>
> >> ipfw add 11 skipto 12 tcp from any to me 25 setup limit dst-addr 32
> >> ipfw add 12 allow tcp from any to me 25 setup limit src-addr 4
> >>
> >> Thus, if rule 11 pases, it skips to rule 12.  If it fails, it should
> >> reject as always.  The end result is that a packet _must_ pass both
> >> rules to be allowed.
> >
> > I spoke too soon. :( It seems this sort of rules evokes a bug:
> >
> > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ipfw/2004-April/001084.html
> >
> > My whole console is flooded with messages like these:
> >
> >     "ipfw: install_state: entry already present, done"
> >
> > Is there a known patch?
> 
> I just took a look at the code:
> 
>  if (q != NULL) { /* should never occur */
>   if (last_log != time_second) {
>    last_log = time_second;
>    printf("ipfw: install_state: entry already present, done\n");
>   }
>   return 0;
>  }
> 
> What if I just hack the "printf ..." line out of there? Would that 'solve'
> it? I know it's dirty; but would things still work?

Theoretically, yes (note that I'm certainly no expert on this chunk of
code)  My reason for saying yes is:
1) The error seems to be that IPFW is trying to add the same stateful
   rule twice ... which means it _did_ get successfully added once.
2) When that condition occurs, the function returns 0.  The comment at
   the top of the file states that the function returns 1 on failure,
   so it would appear that this condition is still considered successful.

-- 
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Actually Chuck,

You answered my question, I wanted to know which was better to use with port forwarding (ipfw or natd) and based on what you wrote, natd is a better fit due to the fact that I would not have to force the other machine to accept packets redirected from the NAT box using natd.  Is that correct???

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Hello Chuck,

I was wondering if someone could help me answer some questions I have concerning IPFW vs. natd I am trying to allow my FreeBSD 4.10 gateway to perform port forwarding for SSH, SQL*Net and Webservice (Web not as important yet). 

I wanted to know if I can use IPFW as opposed to natd to redirect or pass TCP & UDP (is ICMP out of the question???) to a remote location.  Gateway::192.0.0.1:22 --> remote server 192.0.0.5:22 or 192.0.0.5:9881 for instance. From the configuration of ipfw it appears that it can be done instead of using natd.

Any suggestions or corrections of my logic welcome. Thanks in advance.

HZS

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Hakim Z. Singhji wrote:
> Question, when NAT overloading is it possible to use only IPFW rules to
> pass TCP/UDP packects to remote ip addresses within the network?

I don't know what "NAT overloading" means.

It is possible to use only IPFW rules to pass TCP & UDP packets from one 
interface to another using the fwd action.  However, note that:

           The fwd action does not change the contents of the packet at all.
           In particular, the destination address remains unmodified, so
           packets forwarded to another system will usually be rejected by
           that system unless there is a matching rule on that system to
           capture them.  For packets forwarded locally, the local address
           of the socket will be set to the original destination address of
           the packet.  This makes the netstat(1) entry look rather weird
           but is intended for use with transparent proxy servers.

> Or do you have to use natd...because IPFW allows you to execute
> the following for example:
> ****************************************************
> ip from 192.168.99.100 80 to 192.168.99.101 9981
> ****************************************************

That's the body of an IPFW rule which matches packets with those attributes. 
Without an action ("allow", "deny", "fwd"), what you've written isn't a 
complete rule: it doesn't mean anything by itself.

> or even in conjunction with a dummynet rule of somesort?

Um.  Do you understand the question you are asking?

I don't-- perhaps try using a complete sentence.  Better yet, why don't you 
tell us what your network looks like and what you want to do.  You most likely 
will receive answers which are more specific and more useful to you...

-- 
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Hi

 

I am currently having a huge problem. My KDM refuse to start, so now I
cannot get into my machine.

Every time it reboots it will goes in a cycle of spewing errors. It was fine
a few hours ago until I change the monitor config.

My question is how do I stop the KDM from loading during boot up? So at
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I tried booting to single user but I cannot "su". So without root access I
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I am using Freebsd 5.2.1. Any help is appreciated.

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Anyone have a tip on using rrestore with ssh instead
of the rexecd and rcmd facility?  My attempts at using
rrestore result in 

dhcp-78-74:kargl[207] rrestore -x -b 64 -f troutmask:/dev/nsa0
Connection to troutmask.apl.washington.edu established.
IP_TOS:IPTOS_THROUGHPUT setsockopt: Operation not supported
TCP_NODELAY setsockopt: Operation not supported
rshd: Login incorrect.
Lost connection to remote host.
dhcp-78-74:kargl[208]

On troutmask, I have uncommented the appropriate inetd.conf
lines that should allow rmt, rdump, and rrestore to work.

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Hakim Z. Singhji wrote:
> You answered my question, I wanted to know which was better to use with
> port forwarding (ipfw or natd) and based on what you wrote, natd is a
> better fit due to the fact that I would not have to force the other machine
> to accept packets redirected from the NAT box using natd.  Is that
> correct???

That's right.  Most people want to use NAT, because it lets you set up an 
internal network without having to specially configure the internal machines.

With regard to your other question, if you want an external connection to, 
say, port 22 to be forwarded to port 22 on some machine on your internal 
network, use:

redirect_port tcp 192.0.0.5:22 22

...in /etc/natd.conf or your natd_flags in /etc/rc.conf.

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-Chuck


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"Lam Tuck Wai" <tuckwai@evoluxion.com.sg> wrote:
> 
> I am currently having a huge problem. My KDM refuse to start, so now I
> cannot get into my machine.
> 
> Every time it reboots it will goes in a cycle of spewing errors. It was fine
> a few hours ago until I change the monitor config.
> 
> My question is how do I stop the KDM from loading during boot up? So at
> least I can login as root and replace the new XF86config file.
> 
> I tried booting to single user but I cannot "su". So without root access I
> cannot change anything.

You do not need to su.  In single-user mode, you are root.

Once you get a shell prompt in single-user mode, do:
fsck
mount -a

You should then be able to edit your config file, or change /etc/ttys
to stop xdm from starting.

HTH

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> 
> Hi
> 
> I am currently having a huge problem. My KDM refuse to start, so now I
> cannot get into my machine.
> 
> Every time it reboots it will goes in a cycle of spewing errors. It was fine
> a few hours ago until I change the monitor config.
> 
> My question is how do I stop the KDM from loading during boot up? So at
> least I can login as root and replace the new XF86config file.
> 
> I tried booting to single user but I cannot "su". So without root access I
> cannot change anything.

I don't understand the previous line.
If you booted to single user, why would you need to 'su' to anything?
When you boot to single user, you effectively are root.  Do I 
misunderstand something you are trying to do?
Of course, when you boot to single user, you need to do a couple of
things to really be able to get around and change things.
  fsck -p           Just in case
  mount -u /        remount root to be fully read/write
  mount -a          mount everything else
  swapon -a         make sure it has some paging/swap space.

At this point you should be fully functional as root.  You may
also want to run a shell other than /bin/sh for convenience.

  /bin/tcsh         would get you tcsh  or pick your own poison.

////jerry

> 
> I am using Freebsd 5.2.1. Any help is appreciated.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
>  
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Tuck Wai
> 
>  
> 
>  
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Thanks buddy...I appreciate it.

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Hakim Z. Singhji wrote:
> You answered my question, I wanted to know which was better to use with
> port forwarding (ipfw or natd) and based on what you wrote, natd is a
> better fit due to the fact that I would not have to force the other machine
> to accept packets redirected from the NAT box using natd.  Is that
> correct???

That's right.  Most people want to use NAT, because it lets you set up an 
internal network without having to specially configure the internal machines.

With regard to your other question, if you want an external connection to, 
say, port 22 to be forwarded to port 22 on some machine on your internal 
network, use:

redirect_port tcp 192.0.0.5:22 22

...in /etc/natd.conf or your natd_flags in /etc/rc.conf.

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"Ralph Hempel" <rhempel@bmts.com> wrote:
> 
> > I just took a look at the code:
> > 
> >  if (q != NULL) { /* should never occur */
> >   if (last_log != time_second) {
> >    last_log = time_second;
> >    printf("ipfw: install_state: entry already present, done\n");
> >   }
> >   return 0;
> >  }
> > 
> > What if I just hack the "printf ..." line out of there? Would that 'solve'
> > it? I know it's dirty; but would things still work?
> 
> I'll jump in here as a software manager and say NO!!!!!
> 
> Note, I have no idea if it will still work, but as a professional
> programmer, the question raises a number of issues :-)
> 
> 1. First of all, the original programmer took time to comment
>    this line:
> 
>     if (q != NULL) { /* should never occur */
> 
>    OK. There's no indication WHY it should never occur, but still, the comment
>    is there.
> 
> 2. By adding this line: 
> 
>     if (last_log != time_second) {
> 
>    He's limiting the printed errors to one every second, so you
>    are not beeing flooded with as many messages as are actually
>    ocurring.
> 
>    Is last_log used anywhere else?
> 
> 3. This line:
> 
>      return 0;
> 
>    will still return 0 if the error occurs, so the program will
>    work the same with or without the diagnostic message.
> 
> I'd do some more digging and find out exactly WHY this is a "should never
> occur case" to be sure that the log is not needed. If you don't print
> the log, then why do the test, except to return 0 :-)

I was thinking about this over lunch, then I saw your post ... and the
reality is that someone should really file a PR.

Mark, since you have a real-world application where this problem occurs,
it would be idea if you could file a PR with your description of what
you're trying to do and the problem it's causing.

As best I can tell, the problem is _not_ in install_state ... only the
symptom is in install_state.  The problem is that code that is calling
install_state is calling it twice for some reason.  Taking that into
consideration, there's a possibility that this is fixed in -CURRENT,
but I haven't found any commit entries to that tune.

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Bill,

Thanks for the feedback. I've been programming embedded systems
for almost 20 years, so I have a natural aversion to apparently
simple changes that "make things work" :-)

The nicest high-level code I've ever seen in the source to Tcl - if
only all code looked like that.

I've been playing with FreeBSD over the last two or three months
trying to implement a headless server that will help dysfunctional
development teams control their bugs and source code. 

I chose FreeBSD because Linux seems so frigging bloated, and the
distros are too varied. You never know if the distro you pick will
be around next year. FreeBSD gives me a much warmer and fuzzier feeling
about the commitment to release quality code and making it very
clear which releases are for production, and which are for testing.

My work so far is documanted in these articles:

<http://www.hempeldesigngroup.com/embedded/stories/bdgFreeBSDEmbedded.html>
<http://www.hempeldesigngroup.com/embedded/stories/bdgFreeBSDSetup.html>
<http://www.hempeldesigngroup.com/embedded/stories/bdgFreeBSDandWindows.html>
<http://www.hempeldesigngroup.com/embedded/stories/bdgFreeBSDPortsAndPerl.html>
<http://www.hempeldesigngroup.com/embedded/stories/bdgFreeBSDPostfix.html>
<http://www.hempeldesigngroup.com/embedded/stories/bdgFreeBSDApache2.html>
<http://www.hempeldesigngroup.com/embedded/stories/bdgFreeBSDGnats.html>

I hope to write more, including articles on customizing Gnats, using
Subversion, splint, backups, and security.

This developer community seems pretty friendly and knowledgable. I think 
I'll stick around :-)

Cheers, Ralph


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Bill Moran wrote:

>>> My whole console is flooded with messages like these:
>>>
>>>     "ipfw: install_state: entry already present, done"
>>>
>>> Is there a known patch?
>>
>> I just took a look at the code:
>>
>>  if (q != NULL) { /* should never occur */
>>   if (last_log != time_second) {
>>    last_log = time_second;
>>    printf("ipfw: install_state: entry already present, done\n");
>>   }
>>   return 0;
>>  }
>>
>> What if I just hack the "printf ..." line out of there? Would that
>> 'solve' it? I know it's dirty; but would things still work?
>
> Theoretically, yes (note that I'm certainly no expert on this chunk of
> code)  My reason for saying yes is:
> 1) The error seems to be that IPFW is trying to add the same stateful
>    rule twice ... which means it _did_ get successfully added once.
> 2) When that condition occurs, the function returns 0.  The comment at
>    the top of the file states that the function returns 1 on failure,
>    so it would appear that this condition is still considered
> successful.

Thank you for taking the time to look into this.

Yes, my reason for thinking "yes" was the same. It seems there are critical
errors, such as "Too many dynamic rules", returning 1, and, say, unexpected
errors, like when trying to create a rule that already exists, returning 0.

Since the rule actually seems to be working (limiting total connection to
32, and only 4 per source), just commenting out the printf statement seems
like a harmless, be it very dirty, "solution".

Indeed, this should probably be fixed; and I will file a PR tonight.

- Mark

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This is not entirely on-topic for the FreeBSD list (except my
mail server is FreeBSD).

Does anyone know of a solution to allow secure mail forwarding to a
blackberry similar to the enterprise solutions for MS exchange,
and Lotus Notes?

Thanks

  - Mike


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> > 	Then what's the safe mode in the boot screen in 5.2.1, and how is
> > it different than single user mode?  Thanks for your patience with me on
> > this issue.
>
> AFAIK, among others doesn't set DMA disk  access.
> syctl:
> hw.ata.ata_dma=0
> hw.ata.atapi_dma=0

	This seems to have fixed the problem, it must have been a DMA
conflict in some way.  Thank you so much for your help!

				- Jason Barnes

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On Tuesday 03 August 2004 11:30 am, Jerry McAllister wrote:
> > Hi there,
> >
> > I would like to know if there is a Certification Program for FreeBSD,
> > OpenBSD or
> > NetBSD, like SUN's Solaris Certification Program for example.
> >
> > If there is, what is the procedure to make the exam(s)? I am in
> > Salvador/Bahia/BRAZIL.
>
> The short answer is no.
> Some other people may wish to give a more comprehensive answer.
>
> Anyway, the FreeBSD organization is not a company in the same sense
> as Sun or Microsloth, etc that can set up a program to certify people
> in its wonders.    The FreeBSD organization is a group of volunteers
> from all over the world that contribute to make the system.  Although
> there is a core group that steers the project and tries to make sure
> additions and modifications are clean and meet standards, there is
> nothing that specifies the official way you must use the system.
>
> But, I have heard of some organizations that have undertaken to make
> up some training for FreeBSD and for UNIX in general.   It seemd even
> like one might be in Brazil.  But, I do not remember names or addresses.
> You might do some Google searching for FreeBSD training or something
> like that and see what you get.
>
> ////jerry

The longer answer is yes :)

NJIT offers open source unix certification (and it's recognized/endorsed by 
the FreeBSD Foundation)

http://cpe.njit.edu/noncredit/#opensourceunix

avaiable both online and in classroom.

Tim Kellers

CPE/NJIT

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On Tuesday 03 August 2004 11:30 am, Jerry McAllister wrote:
> > Hi there,
> >
> > I would like to know if there is a Certification Program for FreeBSD,
> > OpenBSD or
> > NetBSD, like SUN's Solaris Certification Program for example.
> >
> > If there is, what is the procedure to make the exam(s)? I am in
> > Salvador/Bahia/BRAZIL.
>
> The short answer is no.
> Some other people may wish to give a more comprehensive answer.
>
> Anyway, the FreeBSD organization is not a company in the same sense
> as Sun or Microsloth, etc that can set up a program to certify people
> in its wonders.    The FreeBSD organization is a group of volunteers
> from all over the world that contribute to make the system.  Although
> there is a core group that steers the project and tries to make sure
> additions and modifications are clean and meet standards, there is
> nothing that specifies the official way you must use the system.
>
> But, I have heard of some organizations that have undertaken to make
> up some training for FreeBSD and for UNIX in general.   It seemd even
> like one might be in Brazil.  But, I do not remember names or addresses.
> You might do some Google searching for FreeBSD training or something
> like that and see what you get.
>
> ////jerry

The longer answer is yes :)

NJIT offers open source unix certification (and it's recognized/endorsed by 
the FreeBSD Foundation)

http://cpe.njit.edu/noncredit/#opensourceunix

avaiable both online and in classroom.

Tim Kellers

CPE/NJIT

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Fvwm2 is a great windowmanager. I use 2.4.18 plus fvwm-themes and that
works great. However, the developers version of fvwm also works very
well and it's in the ports. What I don't quite understand is why the
fvwm-themes-0.70 packages is _not_ in the ports. The developers version
of the theme packages makes full use of all those wonderfull new
features of fvwm.

Or is it maybe that I can simply compile fvwm-themes-0.70 on my
freebsd-4.10R box? Does somebody use this version with the latest
fvwm-devel? If so, how do I proceed? If not, I'll guess I have to wait
for the official releases of both packages.

-- 
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On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 10:08:19AM +0400, Roman Vasiliev wrote:

> First run glxgears shows ~2000 fps but second ~10 fps. And whole OpenGL
> application lags.
> 
> Problem solves in changing on NVidia mx 4400. All works fine.

I have the same problem with a GF4-Ti/4200: first run is fast, second
is slow. An older GF2 works perfectly. I guess the only solution is
to wait for the release of new NVidia drivers, which are said to be
released "fairly soon".

cu,
Uwe

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On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 09:40:35PM +0200, dick hoogendijk wrote:
> Fvwm2 is a great windowmanager. I use 2.4.18 plus fvwm-themes and that
> works great. However, the developers version of fvwm also works very
> well and it's in the ports. What I don't quite understand is why the
> fvwm-themes-0.70 packages is _not_ in the ports. The developers version
> of the theme packages makes full use of all those wonderfull new
> features of fvwm.

Did you miss x11-themes/fvwm-themes? It installs fvwm-themes 0.7.0 and
works fine here with fvwm-devel (2.5.10). 

Karel.

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On Jul 25, 2004, at 6:29 AM, Hugo Silva wrote:
> It is unthinkable to be umount'ing EVERY jail if I want to add one.
> I need separate filesystems for jails if I want (I *need* to) user 
> quotas
> on jails
> If I have separate filesystems, I can't create a new jail while the 
> disk
> is being used (ie other jails mount'ed).
>
> Living with 1 ip? I could do it. Now, this is a major drawback.
>
> I've been a FreeBSD user for a long time, so I'm hoping there is a
> solution to this matter-- (bottom line: working user quotas INSIDE 
> jails:
> need either a way to have them w/ different partitions and be able to
> create new jails with all other jails running, or need a way to use 
> quotas
> with only a big partition) I find it weird there exists this big
> limitation on the jail system.
>

try using the mdX memory/file backed file systems for your jails...  
Works well (though I have not tried the user quota -- you do get 
separate filesystems)

Chad

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Hello everyone
How do I enable IPX in FreeBSD 4.10 (and 5.2.1) ?

I've recompiled my kernel with opton IPX and configured my network
interface and lo0 with ipx parameters (found in this document:
http://people.freebsd.org/~bp/ipxen.html which seems a bit old).

Thanks a lot in advance
Alejandro

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Hello, I run FreeBSD 5-2.1 on a serv4er box used for my company 
(StreamForce Hosting Solutions). I was wondering if there is an 
application i can install or method of limiting per user bandwidth by 
like a certain group or class. If not is there a way to limit bandwidth 
for all non super user accounts.

Thanks in advance!

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Damon Butler wrote:

>> May I suggest Phalanx, found in the ports tree? It is an excellent
>> chess program, works wonderfully with xboard, and 'phalanx -e 100' is
>> very likely to meet your needs for a weak chess engine.
>
>
> That looks excellent indeed. Thanks!
> --Damon

I have another suggestion. I've seen lots of Mac emulators in the ports.
Why not use one of these, and run the original program?
AFAIK Mac emulation is not even half as painful as Winblows emulation.

Daniela


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Maksym Marchenko wrote:

> Sometimes I see warning:
> terminal is not fully functional.
> So I can't edit kernel file mit ee - the text is shown "shifted" in 
> their lines.
> Must I use another terminal program to help this?

You just need to set TERM to something sensible, say,
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If you ssh to the box from a FreeBSD console,
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an xterm, TERM will (or should) already be 'xterm'.

If you use some other terminal emulator (e.g. from
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TERM to 'vt100'.

> And what you can do with "headless" PC? Can you control this PC only in
> command prompt? Or (may be) you can use anything like X - twm?

What do you want to do with it?

If you want to do maintenance work (configure servers like, say, postfix,
cyrus/imap, thttpd, set up ppp[oe], natd, ...), just ssh to the box like
you would to any other server too. In normal day to day operations, just
access the misc. servers from outside your headless PC with your favorite
clients. Very simple.

Something like X would be absolute overkill. You want X on your regular
workstation; not on the headless server! But if you absolutely must,
just install the X clients, X libraries etc... on the headless machine
via ports as usual. You definitely don't need an X server on a headless
machine though ;)

Oh, and btw, you can tweak your kernel config file: just remove everything
that you don't need, like vga, sc, keyboard, ... If you don't have the
hardware for it on board, why bother having a driver for it in the kernel?

Enjoy!

cpghost.

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Hello list,

I was recently contacted by a lawfirm that needs a remote backup
solution to help bring their insurance rates down.  I've decided to go
ahead and do this, as their needs are not that great.

What I'm asking, is how best to setup this situation.  I've never played
with jails or anything, but I'm not sure if I really need to go that
far.  I'm considering building a server that has ssh and sftp access.
The plan is to allow them to upload at their pace, and provide next-day
DVD/CD copies of their entire directory structure.

Any advice on how to go about this?

Thanks!

Eric F Crist

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In the immortal words of "Eric Crist" <ecrist@secure-computing.net>...
> I was recently contacted by a lawfirm that needs a remote backup
> solution to help bring their insurance rates down.  I've decided to go
> ahead and do this, as their needs are not that great.

Sounds simple enough

> What I'm asking, is how best to setup this situation.  I've never
> played with jails or anything, but I'm not sure if I really need to go
> that far.  I'm considering building a server that has ssh and sftp
> access. The plan is to allow them to upload at their pace, and provide
> next-day DVD/CD copies of their entire directory structure.

Try one of the multitude of rsync based scripts, you can even get some
very good incremental backups happening, and burning DVDs/ dumping to
tape/etc is simple enough top script as well.  Rsync by default works
over ssh so can be very secure.

The had part would be, how do these people want to retrieve the data?

If you are just handing them media once a day, then it's simple, but if
they want to retrieve it remotely as well, then you could be in for some
fun and games.

Cheers

Tim

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What is the best way to acquire CPAN modules? If I run CPAN, and actually 
install a module, and then later run pkgdb I receive an error message 
stating:

 	Missing Origin: bsdpan-(module-name) Skip this for now? To skip it
 	without asking in the future, please list it in HOLD_PKGS

The modules seem to work correctly however. Several modules that I want, I 
cannot find in the FreeBSD Ports collections.

Does anyone have any suggestions, or is using CPAN the only way to get 
Perl modules installed?

Thanks!

Gerard Seibert
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Hello,

  I recently installed FreeBSD on my laptop computer and my soundcard is
incompatible with FreeBSD's sound drivers.  Will an external sound card
device work with freeBSD?  The device I am looking at is a Sound Blaster
MP3+ (http://www.soundblaster.com/products/mp3+) and the computer is an
Acer Aspire 1400XV purchased in 2001.  

Thank you for your
assistance.




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Hello list,

I was recently contacted by a lawfirm that needs a remote backup
solution to help bring their insurance rates down.  I've decided to go
ahead and do this, as their needs are not that great.

What I'm asking, is how best to setup this situation.  I've never played
with jails or anything, but I'm not sure if I really need to go that
far.  I'm considering building a server that has ssh and sftp access.
The plan is to allow them to upload at their pace, and provide next-day
DVD/CD copies of their entire directory structure.

Any advice on how to go about this?

Thanks!

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Hello,

Maybe something like this? :
http://www.bsdnews.org/02/rsync_windows.php



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I am very new, and have been reinstalling
FreeBSD many times to clean up whatever
mess i make and start again.

I recently used cvsup to update my 
ports collection for the 4.10_RELEASE.

Now, when I reinstall, it takes much longer
because i bring in the updated ports collection
rather than the ports collection on the
install CD (which i burnt from an ISO file)

Is there some way to burn a cd (for me that
means under winXP) containing the latest 
ports collection so that I dont have to
download it each time.

Or is there a better way of installing
with the latest ports collection.

Are the ISO images updated with a new
ports collection very frequently ?

Thanks for any pointers
Peter

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Please cc replies directly to me, as I am not subscribed to the lists.

With some help from here, I was able to get this RAID card to see our
external DLT (QUANTUM 4000) SCSI tape drive by installing the aacp (pass
through) driver in addition to the aac driver.  camcontrol now works, as
do basic mt commands and amcheck (amanda check).

However, (amanda) dumps either hang, fail completely or fail after
transfering very little data.  On the console, I see:

(sa0:aacp1:0:4:0): READ(06). CDB8 0 0 0 20 0 0
(sa0:aacp1:0:4:0): NO SENSE ILI (length mismatch): -24576 csi:0,0,0,1

At this point the device is completely unresponsive, and the only way to
get the system to see it again is to reboot the whole server.  I tried
ordering a 3 ft cable, thinking I was pushing my luck with the 6 ft (I've
had this problem with SCSI cables in the past), but the problem persists.

The same drive (which has an active terminator) has been working fine for
years on a different box using an Intel L440GX+ MB's on-board SCSI port.

Once again, any helpful replies are greatly appreciated!

James Smallacombe		      PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor
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Yes, this could be done. First, create an ISO image of the directory with
`mkisofs' (included in /usr/ports/sysutils/cdrtools):

mkisofs -A ports -allow-lowercase -allow-multidot -f -no-cache-inodes -D -l=
 -J
-o ports.iso -p peter -R -V ports /usr/ports

Note: this will produce a non-standards compliant ISO image, but it will be=
 able
to be read on both MS Windows and FreeBSD.

Then, burn the image to CD using `burncd' (included in
/usr/ports/sysutils/cdrtools):

burncd -f /dev/acd0 -v -s <your_drive_speed> data ports.iso fixate

When it's time to install, remove everything in `/usr/ports' (rm -r
/usr/ports/*) and copy the burned data across. And, to finish it of, CVSup =
the
ports afterwards.

- Russell

On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 11:16:44AM +0800, Peter Ryan wrote:
>I am very new, and have been reinstalling
>FreeBSD many times to clean up whatever
>mess i make and start again.
>
>I recently used cvsup to update my=20
>ports collection for the 4.10_RELEASE.
>
>Now, when I reinstall, it takes much longer
>because i bring in the updated ports collection
>rather than the ports collection on the
>install CD (which i burnt from an ISO file)
>
>Is there some way to burn a cd (for me that
>means under winXP) containing the latest=20
>ports collection so that I dont have to
>download it each time.
>
>Or is there a better way of installing
>with the latest ports collection.
>
>Are the ISO images updated with a new
>ports collection very frequently ?
>
>Thanks for any pointers
>Peter
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I hope this isn't too OT ...

How would I restart swatch when a log turns over? As of now, when a log turns 
over, swatch continues running but doesn't read the new log. I thought maybe 
I could use 

watchfor  /newsyslog/
        exec killall -HUP swatch

in .swatchrc to match the newsyslog string, but when I try the command there 
is no process matching swatch (it's running), and I don't know how to 
reference the PID in such a situation (and use kill -HUP instead). Or does 
swatch need to be restarted in this situation? Or maybe should newsyslog be 
told to restart swatch (not sure how to do this)? I've read through the man 
pages and searched the mailing list archives, and am not turning up 
anything ...

- jt

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Jonathan wrote:

> Hello, I run FreeBSD 5-2.1 on a serv4er box used for my company 
> (StreamForce Hosting Solutions). I was wondering if there is an 
> application i can install or method of limiting per user bandwidth by 
> like a certain group or class. If not is there a way to limit 
> bandwidth for all non super user accounts.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Regards,
> Jonathan


Certainly dummynet(4) comes to mind --- it would easily do per *IP*
BW limits...so it might depend a tad on your network topography.

HTH,

Kevin Kinsey

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Jonathan wrote:

> Hello, I run FreeBSD 5-2.1 on a serv4er box used for my company 
> (StreamForce Hosting Solutions). I was wondering if there is an 
> application i can install or method of limiting per user bandwidth by 
> like a certain group or class. If not is there a way to limit 
> bandwidth for all non super user accounts.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Regards,
> Jonathan


Ooh, now I read that again, and I think I just wasted that
last post.  Different scenario.

Sorry for the noise.

KDK

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On Wed, 4 Aug 2004, Peter Ryan wrote:

> I am very new, and have been reinstalling
> FreeBSD many times to clean up whatever
> mess i make and start again.
>
> I recently used cvsup to update my
> ports collection for the 4.10_RELEASE.
>
> Now, when I reinstall, it takes much longer
> because i bring in the updated ports collection
> rather than the ports collection on the
> install CD (which i burnt from an ISO file)
>

The whole portscollection is also available via ftp:

on ftp2.de.freebsd.org:

ftp> pwd
257 "/pub/FreeBSD/ports/ports" is current directory.
ftp> ls
227 Entering Passive Mode (134,76,11,100,141,111)
150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls.
total 25760
drwxr-xr-x    2 emoenke  ftp          4096 Aug  3 01:53 .
drwxr-xr-x   11 emoenke  ftp          4096 Jul 29  2003 ..
-rw-r--r--    1 emoenke  ftp          1006 Jun 19 01:49 README.TXT
-rw-r--r--    1 emoenke  ftp      26332175 Aug  3 01:26 ports.tar.gz
226 Transfer complete.



simply download the tar.gz, and extract it to /usr/ports



On each ISO of a release, like the 4.10R-CD #1, they take a snapshot of
the ports tree when the make the assumption that it ist quite
consistent. So when you download in say, 3 months a 4.10 ISO, the ports
tree therein will be more than 3 months old.

In that case, use whether cvsup or method above to get a recent ports
tree.

HTH
Olaf


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In the last episode (Aug 03), Jonathan said:
> Hello, I run FreeBSD 5-2.1 on a serv4er box used for my company 
> (StreamForce Hosting Solutions). I was wondering if there is an 
> application i can install or method of limiting per user bandwidth by 
> like a certain group or class. If not is there a way to limit bandwidth 
> for all non super user accounts.

ipfw rules plus dummynet should be able to do what you want.  ipfw can
filter on the uid or gid of the process sending/receiving the packet, so
this should cause all non-root packets to get filtered through dummynet 
pipe 1 (which you could configure to run at 90% of your true capacity):

ipfw add 400 skipto 402 ip from any to any uid root
ipfw add 401 pipe 1 ip from any to any
 
Hopefully ipfw will soon get the ability to use ALTQ which was recently
merged into -current, so you can do some more advanced limiting.

-- 
	Dan Nelson
	dnelson@allantgroup.com

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Tim Aslat
> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 7:33 PM
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
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>
>
> In the immortal words of "Eric Crist" <ecrist@secure-computing.net>...
> > I was recently contacted by a lawfirm that needs a remote backup
> > solution to help bring their insurance rates down.  I've
> decided to go
> > ahead and do this, as their needs are not that great.
>
> Sounds simple enough
>
> > What I'm asking, is how best to setup this situation.  I've never
> > played with jails or anything, but I'm not sure if I really
> need to go
> > that far.  I'm considering building a server that has ssh and sftp
> > access. The plan is to allow them to upload at their pace,
> and provide
> > next-day DVD/CD copies of their entire directory structure.
>
> Try one of the multitude of rsync based scripts, you can even
> get some very good incremental backups happening, and burning
> DVDs/ dumping to tape/etc is simple enough top script as
> well.  Rsync by default works over ssh so can be very secure.
>
> The had part would be, how do these people want to retrieve the data?
>
> If you are just handing them media once a day, then it's
> simple, but if they want to retrieve it remotely as well,
> then you could be in for some fun and games.
>
> Cheers
>
> Tim

Thanks for the reply, Tim.  I didn't specify in the OP, but this is from
Windows systems to my freebsd server.  The retrieval method will be a
copy on CD/DVD, at a premium, of course, in the even they have a
faliure.

Thanks again for all your help.




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Hi,
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On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 08:56:16PM -0400, Gerard Seibert wrote:
> What is the best way to acquire CPAN modules? If I run CPAN, and actually=
=20
> install a module, and then later run pkgdb I receive an error message=20
> stating:
>=20
> 	Missing Origin: bsdpan-(module-name) Skip this for now? To skip it
> 	without asking in the future, please list it in HOLD_PKGS
>
> The modules seem to work correctly however. Several modules that I want, =
I=20
> cannot find in the FreeBSD Ports collections.
>=20
> Does anyone have any suggestions, or is using CPAN the only way to get=20
> Perl modules installed?

It's up to you.  Generally I find though that where the modules you
want are available through the ports collection, then it's best to
install from there.

Otherwise, install using CPAN.  If you're using perl installed from
ports or bundled with 4.x, then the CPAN system will have been
slightly modified, so that BSDPAN installed modules will be registered
with the packages system.  That has a number of advantages,
principally that you can cleanly deinstall the package should you
wish.

As the error message you see says, modules installed via BSDPAN can't
be associated with an origin, ie. a location in the ports tree.  That
means that tools like portupgrade(1) and friends can't be used to
manage BSDPAN installed modules, and you should do exactly what the
error message says and list it in the HOLD_PKGS array in
/usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf:

  HOLD_PKGS =3D [
    'bsdpan-*',
  ]

	Cheers,

	Matthew

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Hi Eric,

we are currently developing a small program/service for our customers
exactly for this purpose.

To just backup the data to a remote server is very easy, even on Windows:
Use cygwin. It comes together with rsync and ssh. I recommend you use
rsync since it is the most effective AFAIK and the transfer is safe (not
unimportant to law companies). Then you could run a nightly task to backup
the data.

We also found that revision the data on the backup server could also be
very helpful using rsnapshot. This tool is actually intended for backups
between UNIX/Linux boxes, however, you can also run it locally. It creates
full daily backups with the storage need of an incremental backup while
using links to unchanged files.

Cheers. Dave.

> Thanks for the reply, Tim.  I didn't specify in the OP, but this is from
> Windows systems to my freebsd server.  The retrieval method will be a
> copy on CD/DVD, at a premium, of course, in the even they have a
> faliure.
>
> Thanks again for all your help.
>
>
>
>
> Found on Conan O'Brian:
> Children's books written by celebrities;
>    By Mel Gibson: Jesus Christ and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very
> Bad Day.
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On 03 Aug Karel J. Bosschaart wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 09:40:35PM +0200, dick hoogendijk wrote:
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> Did you miss x11-themes/fvwm-themes? It installs fvwm-themes 0.7.0 and
> works fine here with fvwm-devel (2.5.10).

If so, I *did* miss that port.
I'm very glad to hear it exists.
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> we are currently developing a small program/service for our customers
> exactly for this purpose.
>
> To just backup the data to a remote server is very easy, even on Windows:
> Use cygwin. It comes together with rsync and ssh. I recommend you use
> rsync since it is the most effective AFAIK and the transfer is safe (not
> unimportant to law companies). Then you could run a nightly task to backup
> the data.

what is unsafe of rsh for example if network through which is going the
traffic is under your control?

ssh is SLOW.

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I know this is a FreeBSD list, but there is a really excellent program
for learning chess for the PC (and Mac):  "Learn How to Play Chess
with Fritz and Chesster".  For ages 8 and up. It is a really searious
learning program, which has a huge book, starts with moves, then
endgames, then ...

Viva Media North American Editon (2003)
ISBN 1-932174-13-3

(It actually comes from Germany)

On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 11:34:02PM +0000, Daniela wrote:
> Damon Butler wrote:
> 
> >>May I suggest Phalanx, found in the ports tree? It is an excellent
> >>chess program, works wonderfully with xboard, and 'phalanx -e 100' is
> >>very likely to meet your needs for a weak chess engine.
> >
> >
> >That looks excellent indeed. Thanks!
> >--Damon
> 
> I have another suggestion. I've seen lots of Mac emulators in the ports.
> Why not use one of these, and run the original program?
> AFAIK Mac emulation is not even half as painful as Winblows emulation.
> 
> Daniela
> 
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Hi,
I have been seeing these logs since I started using my firewall but 
since I am not having problems in my incoming-outgoing emails and access 
to websites I did not bother to change anything...But, Looking at my 
firewall logs and seeing the same things just woke up my curiousity and 
wondered if anybody can enlighten me on what is happening...

Below are some of the information that I have copied from my 
/var/log/security and pasted here:

	Aug  4 10:57:26 r40e kernel: ipfw: 299 Deny TCP 192.168.1.35:49312 
130.89.175.51:80 out via bge0
	Aug  4 11:00:49 r40e kernel: ipfw: 299 Deny TCP 192.168.1.35:49312 
130.89.175.51:80 out via bge0
	Aug  4 11:33:45 r40e kernel: ipfw: 299 Deny TCP 192.168.1.35:49352 
69.55.225.12:80 out via bge0
	Aug  4 11:34:10 r40e last message repeated 5 times
	Aug  4 11:36:16 r40e last message repeated 3 times
	Aug  4 11:40:32 r40e last message repeated 4 times
	Aug  4 12:21:10 r40e kernel: ipfw: 299 Deny TCP 192.168.1.35:49364 
195.92.249.252:80 out via bge0
	Aug  4 12:21:41 r40e last message repeated 6 times
	Aug  4 12:22:55 r40e last message repeated 2 times
	Aug  4 12:27:11 r40e last message repeated 4 times
	Aug  4 13:24:14 r40e kernel: ipfw: 299 Deny TCP 192.168.1.35:49386 
216.136.204.21:80 out via bge0
	Aug  4 13:24:34 r40e last message repeated 5 times
	Aug  4 13:26:26 r40e last message repeated 3 times
	Aug  4 13:30:42 r40e last message repeated 4 times
	Aug  4 15:04:19 r40e kernel: ipfw: 299 Deny TCP 192.168.1.35:49456 
210.188.175.94:110 out via bge0
	Aug  4 15:04:46 r40e last message repeated 7 times
	Aug  4 15:06:04 r40e last message repeated 2 times
	Aug  4 15:08:38 r40e last message repeated 3 times
	Aug  4 15:36:28 r40e kernel: ipfw: 299 Deny TCP 192.168.1.35:49487 
164.46.152.13:110 out via bge0
	Aug  4 15:36:28 r40e kernel: ipfw: 299 Deny TCP 192.168.1.35:49486 
164.46.152.13:110 out via bge0
	Aug  4 15:36:28 r40e kernel: ipfw: 299 Deny TCP 192.168.1.35:49487 
164.46.152.13:110 out via bge0
	Aug  4 15:44:42 r40e kernel: ipfw: 299 Deny TCP 192.168.1.35:49504 
205.180.85.140:80 out via bge0
	Aug  4 15:45:15 r40e last message repeated 6 times
	Aug  4 15:46:44 r40e last message repeated 2 times
	Aug  4 15:51:00 r40e last message repeated 4 times

This is found in my /etc/ipfw.rules
### Allow out non-secure standard www function	###
$CMD 00200 allow tcp from any to any 80 out via $IFN setup keep-state

### Allow out send & get email function ###
$CMD 00230 allow tcp from any to any 25 out via $IFN setup keep-state
$CMD 00231 allow tcp from any to any 110 out via $IFN setup keep-state

### deny and log everything else that's trying to get out.	###
### This rule enforces the block all by default logic.		###
$CMD 00299 deny log all from any to any out via $IFN


Why are the above firewall logs telling me that it has denied my TCP 
packets and yet I am not experiencing some problems in my emails and 
access to the internet through port 80.  I still do not understand the 
whole thing about firewalls and I hope that anybody can share what they 
think is happening.

Thanks in advance for any comments and advice...

Srot BULL

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Hi,

I installed a second harddisk on my FBSD 5.2.1 box and then use dd if=/dev/ado 
of=/dev/ad1. I later removed my first disk so that I can test the second 
disk. After booting it goes to single user mode and then I used fsck -y 
command. I then mounted the /usr only to find that id did not copy everything 
from the first disk.

1. I want to make an exact copy of the first disk, how can I do that.
2. Later I want to copy what has changed to disk2 once a day. 

Regards
Livhu 

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Eric Crist wrote:
> Hello list,
> 
> I was recently contacted by a lawfirm that needs a remote backup
> solution to help bring their insurance rates down.  I've decided to go
> ahead and do this, as their needs are not that great.
> 
> What I'm asking, is how best to setup this situation.  I've never played
> with jails or anything, but I'm not sure if I really need to go that
> far.  I'm considering building a server that has ssh and sftp access.
> The plan is to allow them to upload at their pace, and provide next-day
> DVD/CD copies of their entire directory structure.
> 
> Any advice on how to go about this?

I do this using rsync. Remote FreeBSD machines are straightforward. For 
Windows computers wishing to backup remotely I am starting to use:

http://sync2nas.sourceforge.net/

I also find it helps to start with a copy of their data from some medium 
like a tape, CD(s) or DVD, or even a hard drive moved from one machine 
to another. Otherwise, the initial transfer can, literally, take weeks.

HTH

Peter.

> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Eric F Crist
> 
> Found on Conan O'Brian:
> Children's books written by celebrities;
>    By Mel Gibson: Jesus Christ and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very
> Bad Day.
> 
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Hi all

I installed ntop on the server

but I can't get tcp4 by netstat -an
and it is only tcp6 listen on port 2853


tcp6       0      0  *.2853

Why?

Thank you

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On 2004-08-04 17:13, Srot BULL <pwd8jmr22w@me.point.ne.jp> wrote:
>
> This is found in my /etc/ipfw.rules
> ### Allow out non-secure standard www function	###
> $CMD 00200 allow tcp from any to any 80 out via $IFN setup keep-state
>
> ### Allow out send & get email function ###
> $CMD 00230 allow tcp from any to any 25 out via $IFN setup keep-state
> $CMD 00231 allow tcp from any to any 110 out via $IFN setup keep-state
>
> ### deny and log everything else that's trying to get out.	###
> ### This rule enforces the block all by default logic.		###
> $CMD 00299 deny log all from any to any out via $IFN
>
> Why are the above firewall logs telling me that it has denied my TCP
> packets and yet I am not experiencing some problems in my emails and
> access to the internet through port 80. [...]

Show us the full ruleset.  Otherwise we're just guessing...

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Attention: questions@freebsd.org.


A Virus was found in an Email message you sent. 
This Email scanner intercepted it and stopped the entire message
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The Virus was reported to be: 

 W32/Netsky.B@mm


Please update your virus scanner or contact your I.T support 
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Your message was sent with the following envelope:

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The original message is kept in:

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where the Mail System Anti-Virus Administrator can further diagnose it.

The Email scanner reported the following when it scanned that message:

--- 

---fprot results ---
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/var/spool/qmailscan/mail.fam.ulusiada.pt109161237240421021/mails.htm.exe  Infection: W32/Netsky.B@mm
/var/spool/qmailscan/working/new/mail.fam.ulusiada.pt109161237240421021->mails.zip->mails.htm.exe  Infection: W32/Netsky.B@mm

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On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 05:13:51PM +0900, Srot BULL wrote:

> I have been seeing these logs since I started using my firewall but=20
> since I am not having problems in my incoming-outgoing emails and access=
=20
> to websites I did not bother to change anything...But, Looking at my=20
> firewall logs and seeing the same things just woke up my curiousity and=
=20
> wondered if anybody can enlighten me on what is happening...
>=20
> Below are some of the information that I have copied from my=20
> /var/log/security and pasted here:
>=20
> 	Aug  4 10:57:26 r40e kernel: ipfw: 299 Deny TCP 192.168.1.35:49312=20
> 130.89.175.51:80 out via bge0
> 	Aug  4 11:00:49 r40e kernel: ipfw: 299 Deny TCP 192.168.1.35:49312=20
> 130.89.175.51:80 out via bge0
> 	Aug  4 11:33:45 r40e kernel: ipfw: 299 Deny TCP 192.168.1.35:49352=20
> 69.55.225.12:80 out via bge0
> 	Aug  4 11:34:10 r40e last message repeated 5 times
> 	Aug  4 11:36:16 r40e last message repeated 3 times
> 	Aug  4 11:40:32 r40e last message repeated 4 times
> 	Aug  4 12:21:10 r40e kernel: ipfw: 299 Deny TCP 192.168.1.35:49364=20
> 195.92.249.252:80 out via bge0
> 	Aug  4 12:21:41 r40e last message repeated 6 times
> 	Aug  4 12:22:55 r40e last message repeated 2 times
> 	Aug  4 12:27:11 r40e last message repeated 4 times
> 	Aug  4 13:24:14 r40e kernel: ipfw: 299 Deny TCP 192.168.1.35:49386=20
> 216.136.204.21:80 out via bge0
> 	Aug  4 13:24:34 r40e last message repeated 5 times
> 	Aug  4 13:26:26 r40e last message repeated 3 times
> 	Aug  4 13:30:42 r40e last message repeated 4 times
> 	Aug  4 15:04:19 r40e kernel: ipfw: 299 Deny TCP 192.168.1.35:49456=20
> 210.188.175.94:110 out via bge0
> 	Aug  4 15:04:46 r40e last message repeated 7 times
> 	Aug  4 15:06:04 r40e last message repeated 2 times
> 	Aug  4 15:08:38 r40e last message repeated 3 times
> 	Aug  4 15:36:28 r40e kernel: ipfw: 299 Deny TCP 192.168.1.35:49487=20
> 164.46.152.13:110 out via bge0
> 	Aug  4 15:36:28 r40e kernel: ipfw: 299 Deny TCP 192.168.1.35:49486=20
> 164.46.152.13:110 out via bge0
> 	Aug  4 15:36:28 r40e kernel: ipfw: 299 Deny TCP 192.168.1.35:49487=20
> 164.46.152.13:110 out via bge0
> 	Aug  4 15:44:42 r40e kernel: ipfw: 299 Deny TCP 192.168.1.35:49504=20
> 205.180.85.140:80 out via bge0
> 	Aug  4 15:45:15 r40e last message repeated 6 times
> 	Aug  4 15:46:44 r40e last message repeated 2 times
> 	Aug  4 15:51:00 r40e last message repeated 4 times
>=20
> This is found in my /etc/ipfw.rules
> ### Allow out non-secure standard www function	###
> $CMD 00200 allow tcp from any to any 80 out via $IFN setup keep-state
>=20
> ### Allow out send & get email function ###
> $CMD 00230 allow tcp from any to any 25 out via $IFN setup keep-state
> $CMD 00231 allow tcp from any to any 110 out via $IFN setup keep-state
>=20
> ### deny and log everything else that's trying to get out.	###
> ### This rule enforces the block all by default logic.		###
> $CMD 00299 deny log all from any to any out via $IFN

Hmmm... Looks weird, doesn't it: your firewall is denying packets
going out of your machine to various internet web or pop3 servers.
But network access still works fine.

What's happening it this: there's some sort of delay between your
system and the remote system which means that the exchange of FIN
packets to close down the connection takes so long that the stateful
rule times out in the mean time.  There is such a delay built into the
TCP protocols in order to maximise the chances for any packets that
have got a bit lost in transit to finally make it to their
destinations.

If you look at your netstat(1) output after a session of web browsing
you'll probably see a number of connections apparently stuck in the
'CLOSING' or 'FIN_WAIT' or similar state -- I'd have to look up the
details to be sure exactly which.

Now, since this only occurs after you've decided to shut down the
connection, it's not a disaster.  Unless it's happening to a
ridiculous extent, you can probably just ignore it: eventually the
networking code will timeout the connection and tidy everything up.

On the other hand, and particularly if you're running a busy server
and can't afford to have mouldering old connections taking up kernel
resources, there are various things you can try. There are several
sysctls you can play with to ameliorate things.  Look at the tuning(7)
man page, particularly the sections on the following sysctls:

    net.inet.tcp.always_keepalive

    net.inet.tcp.delayed_ack

You might also want to fiddle with some of the
net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_*_lifetime timers, but such things are not
recommended for novices to play with -- get the numbers wrong and you
can end up with a system that can't talk over the network reliably.

	Cheers,

	Matthew

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On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 09:16:17PM -0700, Joshua Tinnin typed:
> I hope this isn't too OT ...
> 
> How would I restart swatch when a log turns over? As of now, when a log turns 
> over, swatch continues running but doesn't read the new log. I thought maybe 
> I could use 
> 
> watchfor  /newsyslog/
>         exec killall -HUP swatch
> 
> in .swatchrc to match the newsyslog string, but when I try the command there 
> is no process matching swatch (it's running), and I don't know how to 
> reference the PID in such a situation (and use kill -HUP instead). Or does 
> swatch need to be restarted in this situation? Or maybe should newsyslog be 
> told to restart swatch (not sure how to do this)? I've read through the man 
> pages and searched the mailing list archives, and am not turning up 
> anything ...

You can specify these in newsyslog.conf, see newsyslog(8) :

     path_to_pid_file
             This optional field specifies the file name to read to find the
             daemon process id, or to find a process group id if the U flag
             was specified.  If this field is present, a signal_number is sent
             the process id contained in this file.  If this field is not
             present, then a SIGHUP signal will be sent to syslogd(8), unless
             the N flag has been specified.  This field must start with "/" in
             order to be recognized properly.

     signal_number
             This optional field specifies the signal number that will be sent
             to the daemon process (or to all processes in a process group, if
             the U flag was specified).  If this field is not present, then a
             SIGHUP signal will be sent.

gr, Ruben

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On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 10:49:26AM +0200, Livhu Tshisikule typed:
> Hi,
> 
> I installed a second harddisk on my FBSD 5.2.1 box and then use dd if=/dev/ado 
> of=/dev/ad1. I later removed my first disk so that I can test the second 
> disk. After booting it goes to single user mode and then I used fsck -y 
> command. I then mounted the /usr only to find that id did not copy everything 
> from the first disk.
> 
> 1. I want to make an exact copy of the first disk, how can I do that.
> 2. Later I want to copy what has changed to disk2 once a day. 

use dump(8) and restore(8)


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On Tue, 3 Aug 2004, Gerard Seibert wrote:
> Does anyone have any suggestions, or is using CPAN the only way to get Perl 
> modules installed?

Matthew Seaman has already addressed your question - I will just add that 
you might want to mention which modules you need that aren't in ports, so 
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> On 2004-08-04 17:13, Srot BULL <pwd8jmr22w@me.point.ne.jp> wrote:
>>This is found in my /etc/ipfw.rules
>>### Allow out non-secure standard www function	###
>>$CMD 00200 allow tcp from any to any 80 out via $IFN setup keep-state
>>### Allow out send & get email function ###
>>$CMD 00230 allow tcp from any to any 25 out via $IFN setup keep-state
>>$CMD 00231 allow tcp from any to any 110 out via $IFN setup keep-state
>>### deny and log everything else that's trying to get out.	###
>>### This rule enforces the block all by default logic.	###
>>$CMD 00299 deny log all from any to any out via $IFN
>
>>Why are the above firewall logs telling me that it has denied my TCP
>>packets and yet I am not experiencing some problems in my emails and
>>access to the internet through port 80. [...]
> 
> Giorgos Keramidas wrote: 
> Show us the full ruleset.  Otherwise we're just guessing...
> 
My apologies, below is my complete ruleset:
# Flush out EVERYTHING first before starting
ipfw -q -f flush

# Set rules command prefix
CMD="ipfw -q add"
IFN="rl0"


# No restrictions on Loopback Interface #
$CMD 00010 allow all from any to any via lo0

#* Allow the packet through if it has previous been added to the *#
#* the "dynamic" rules table by a allow keep-state statement. *#
$CMD 00015 check-state

#* Interface facing Public internet (Outbound Section) *#
#* Interrogate session start requests originating from behind the *#
#* firewall on the private network or from this gateway server *#
#* destine for the public internet. *#

#*** Temporary OPENINGS ***#
$CMD 00099 allow tcp from any to any 6088 out via $IFN setup keep-state

#* Allow out access to ISP's DNS. *#
$CMD 00110 allow tcp from any to x.x.x.x 53 out via $IFN setup keep-state
$CMD 00111 allow udp from any to x.x.x.x 53 out via $IFN keep-state
$CMD 00112 allow tcp from any to x.x.x.x 53 out via $IFN setup keep-state
$CMD 00113 allow udp from any to x.x.x.x 53 out via $IFN keep-state
$CMD 00114 allow tcp from any to x.x.x.x 53 out via $IFN setup keep-state
$CMD 00115 allow udp from any to x.x.x.x 53 out via $IFN keep-state

#* Allow out access to my ISP's DHCP server for cable/DSL configurations. *#
$CMD 00120 allow udp from any to x.x.x.x 67 out via $IFN keep-state

#* Allow out non-secure standard www function *#
$CMD 00200 allow tcp from any to any 80 out via $IFN setup keep-state

#* Allow out connection for my Dictionary *#
$CMD 00201 allow tcp from any to any 2628 out via $IFN setup keep-state

#* Allow out connection for MSN Protocol *#
$CMD 00202 allow tcp from any to any 1863 out via $IFN setup keep-state
$CMD 00203 allow udp from any to any 1863 out via $IFN setup keep-state

#* Allow out secure www function https over TLS SSL *#
$CMD 00220 allow tcp from any to any 443 out via $IFN setup keep-state

#* Allow out SEND & GET email function *#
$CMD 00230 allow tcp from any to any 25 out via $IFN setup keep-state
$CMD 00231 allow tcp from any to any 110 out via $IFN setup keep-state

#* Allow out FBSD (make install & CVSUP) functions *#
#* Basically give user root "GOD" privileges. *#
$CMD 00240 allow tcp from me to any out via $IFN setup keep-state uid root

# Allow out ping *#
$CMD 00250 allow icmp from any to any out via $IFN keep-state

#* Allow out Time *#
$CMD 00260 allow tcp from any to any 37 out via $IFN setup keep-state

#* Allow out nntp news (IE: news groups) *#
$CMD 00270 allow tcp from any to any 119 out via $IFN setup keep-state

#* Allow out secure FTP, Telnet, and SCP *#
#* This function is using SSH (secure shell)
$CMD 00280 allow tcp from any to any 22 out via $IFN setup keep-state

#* Allow out whois *#
$CMD 00290 allow tcp from any to any 43 out via $IFN setup keep-state

#* DENY and LOG everything else thats trying to get out. *#
#* This rule enforces the block all by default logic. *#
$CMD 00299 deny log all from any to any out via $IFN


#* Interface facing Public internet (Inbound Section) *#
#* Interrogate packets originating from the public internet *#
#* destine for this gateway server or the private network. *#

#* Deny all inbound traffic from non-routable reserved address spaces *#
#RFC 1918 private IP#
$CMD 00300 deny all from 192.168.0.0/16 to any in via $IFN
#RFC 1918 private IP#
$CMD 00301 deny all from 172.16.0.0/12 to any in via $IFN
#RFC 1918 private IP#
$CMD 00302 deny all from 10.0.0.0/8 to any in via $IFN
#loopback#
$CMD 00303 deny all from 127.0.0.0/8 to any in via $IFN
#loopback#
$CMD 00304 deny all from 0.0.0.0/8 to any in via $IFN
$CMD 00305 deny all from 169.254.0.0/16 to any in via $IFN
#DHCP auto-config#
$CMD 00306 deny all from 192.0.2.0/24 to any in via $IFN
#reserved for doc's#
$CMD 00307 deny all from 204.152.64.0/23 to any in via $IFN
#Class D & E multicast#
$CMD 00308 deny all from 224.0.0.0/3 to any in via $IFN

#* Deny public pings *#
$CMD 00310 deny icmp from any to any in via $IFN

#* Deny ident *#
$CMD 00315 deny tcp from any to any in via $IFN

#* Deny all Netbios service. 137=name, 138=datagram, 139=session *#
#* Netbios is MS/Windows sharing services. *#
#* Block MS/Windows hosts2 name server requests 81 *#
$CMD 00320 deny tcp from any to any 137 in via $IFN
$CMD 00321 deny tcp from any to any 138 in via $IFN
$CMD 00322 deny tcp from any to any 139 in via $IFN
$CMD 00323 deny tcp from any to any 81 in via $IFN

#* Deny any late arriving packets *#
$CMD 00330 deny all from any to any frag in via $IFN

#* Deny ACK packets that did not match the dynamic rule table *#
$CMD 00332 deny tcp from any to any established in via $IFN

#* Allow traffic in from ISP's DHCP server. *#
#* Only necessary for cable or DSL configurations. *#
$CMD 00360 allow udp from any to x.x.x.x 67 in via $IFN keep-state

#* Allow in standard www function because Apache Server *#
#$CMD 00400 allow tcp from any to me 80 in via $IFN setup limit src-addr 2

#* Allow in secure FTP, Telnet, and SCP from public Internet *#
#$CMD 00410 allow tcp from any to me 22 in via $IFN setup limit src-addr 2

# Allow in non-secure Telnet session from public Internet *#
# labeled non-secure because ID & PW are passed over public *#
# internet as clear text. *#
#$CMD 00420 allow tcp from any to me 23 in via $IFN setup limit src-addr 2

#* Reject & Log all incoming connections from the outside *#
$CMD 00499 deny log all from any to any in via $IFN

# Everything else is denied by default
# DENY and LOG all packets that fell through to see what they are
$CMD 00999 deny log all from any to any

My basis for my rulesets are taken from:
http://freebsd.a1poweruser.com:6088/FBSD_firewall/
If you find anything wrong with my rulesets please do comment...only if 
you do not mind...

Thanks,

Srot BULL

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Hi.
I lost my way...

FreeBSD 4.9 updated via cvs/makeworld/etc to latest
ENGREL_4.

Installed CUPS+GHOSTSCRIPT+etc via ports.
All seems okay.
Modified /usr/local/etc/cups/cups.conf to accept my
calling via web interfance
(http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:631)
All it's okay...
..but...
Yes there is a 'but'!

Where is my Parallel Port ?

I mean, I'm inside of CUPS admin web page.
It's time to setup a printer.
I choice name, etc...
But when CUPS give me choice of the ports... there are
everyone but the printer port!

Maybe the kernel did not loaded !
I do a :
'dmesg | grep lpt0'
and it return :
lpt0: <Printer> on ppbus0
lpt0: Interrupt-driver port

Then I do :
lptcontrol -e -d /dev/lpt0

but it return me :
lptcontrol: open: device busy

Am I mistaking something ? 

Thanks
David


		
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"Venkat, Narayan" <Narayan.Venkat@netapp.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>  
> What Role Based Access Control capabilities are there in FreeBSD?

In addition to standard Unix permissions:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mac.html

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> On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 05:13:51PM +0900, Srot BULL wrote: 
>>I have been seeing these logs since I started using my firewall but 
>>since I am not having problems in my incoming-outgoing emails and access 
>>to websites I did not bother to change anything...But, Looking at my 
>>firewall logs and seeing the same things just woke up my curiousity and 
>>wondered if anybody can enlighten me on what is happening...
>>
>>Below are some of the information that I have copied from my 
>>/var/log/security and pasted here:
>>	Aug  4 10:57:26 r40e kernel: ipfw: 299 Deny TCP 192.168.1.35:49312 
>>130.89.175.51:80 out via bge0
>>	Aug  4 11:00:49 r40e kernel: ipfw: 299 Deny TCP 192.168.1.35:49312 
>>130.89.175.51:80 out via bge0
>>	Aug  4 11:33:45 r40e kernel: ipfw: 299 Deny TCP 192.168.1.35:49352 
>>69.55.225.12:80 out via bge0
>>	Aug  4 11:34:10 r40e last message repeated 5 times
>>	Aug  4 11:36:16 r40e last message repeated 3 times
>>	Aug  4 11:40:32 r40e last message repeated 4 times
>>	Aug  4 12:21:10 r40e kernel: ipfw: 299 Deny TCP 192.168.1.35:49364 
>>195.92.249.252:80 out via bge0
>>	Aug  4 12:21:41 r40e last message repeated 6 times
>>	Aug  4 12:22:55 r40e last message repeated 2 times
>>	Aug  4 12:27:11 r40e last message repeated 4 times
>>	Aug  4 13:24:14 r40e kernel: ipfw: 299 Deny TCP 192.168.1.35:49386 
>>216.136.204.21:80 out via bge0
>>	Aug  4 13:24:34 r40e last message repeated 5 times
>>	Aug  4 13:26:26 r40e last message repeated 3 times
>>	Aug  4 13:30:42 r40e last message repeated 4 times
>>	Aug  4 15:04:19 r40e kernel: ipfw: 299 Deny TCP 192.168.1.35:49456 
>>210.188.175.94:110 out via bge0
>>	Aug  4 15:04:46 r40e last message repeated 7 times
>>	Aug  4 15:06:04 r40e last message repeated 2 times
>>	Aug  4 15:08:38 r40e last message repeated 3 times
>>	Aug  4 15:36:28 r40e kernel: ipfw: 299 Deny TCP 192.168.1.35:49487 
>>164.46.152.13:110 out via bge0
>>	Aug  4 15:36:28 r40e kernel: ipfw: 299 Deny TCP 192.168.1.35:49486 
>>164.46.152.13:110 out via bge0
>>	Aug  4 15:36:28 r40e kernel: ipfw: 299 Deny TCP 192.168.1.35:49487 
>>164.46.152.13:110 out via bge0
>>	Aug  4 15:44:42 r40e kernel: ipfw: 299 Deny TCP 192.168.1.35:49504 
>>205.180.85.140:80 out via bge0
>>	Aug  4 15:45:15 r40e last message repeated 6 times
>>	Aug  4 15:46:44 r40e last message repeated 2 times
>>	Aug  4 15:51:00 r40e last message repeated 4 times
>>This is found in my /etc/ipfw.rules
>>### Allow out non-secure standard www function	###
>>$CMD 00200 allow tcp from any to any 80 out via $IFN setup keep-state
>>### Allow out send & get email function ###
>>$CMD 00230 allow tcp from any to any 25 out via $IFN setup keep-state
>>$CMD 00231 allow tcp from any to any 110 out via $IFN setup keep-state
>>### deny and log everything else that's trying to get out.	###
>>### This rule enforces the block all by default logic.	###
>>$CMD 00299 deny log all from any to any out via $IFN

> Matthew Seaman wrote:
> Hmmm... Looks weird, doesn't it: your firewall is denying packets
> going out of your machine to various internet web or pop3 servers.
> But network access still works fine.
> What's happening it this: there's some sort of delay between your
> system and the remote system which means that the exchange of FIN
> packets to close down the connection takes so long that the stateful
> rule times out in the mean time.  There is such a delay built into the
> TCP protocols in order to maximise the chances for any packets that
> have got a bit lost in transit to finally make it to their
> destinations.
> If you look at your netstat(1) output after a session of web browsing
> you'll probably see a number of connections apparently stuck in the
> 'CLOSING' or 'FIN_WAIT' or similar state -- I'd have to look up the
> details to be sure exactly which.
> Now, since this only occurs after you've decided to shut down the
> connection, it's not a disaster.  Unless it's happening to a
> ridiculous extent, you can probably just ignore it: eventually the
> networking code will timeout the connection and tidy everything up.
> On the other hand, and particularly if you're running a busy server
> and can't afford to have mouldering old connections taking up kernel
> resources, there are various things you can try. There are several
> sysctls you can play with to ameliorate things.  Look at the tuning(7)
> man page, particularly the sections on the following sysctls:
> 
>     net.inet.tcp.always_keepalive
> 
>     net.inet.tcp.delayed_ack
> 
> You might also want to fiddle with some of the
> net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_*_lifetime timers, but such things are not
> recommended for novices to play with -- get the numbers wrong and you
> can end up with a system that can't talk over the network reliably.
> 
Hi,
Thank you for your explanation, I will try to go on again on what your 
trying to explain to me...Frankly speaking I am not that knowledgeable 
in networking...but I am trying my best to learn...
If it is not going to bite me that maybe I should let things be...Just 
to be on the safe side...Of course, I will take a look again on the 
tuning manpage...
I posted this email because, I was worried that something big is wrong 
with my settings...
I have a laptop in the office and a desktop in my apartment that has 
almost identical settings from my X Window Systems to my firewall 
rulesets...
As long as there are no major problems I leave things for now...and 
maybe someday I will be able to create a more suitable ruleset for my 
systems...

Once again thank you very much...
Have a nice day to all of you...

Srot BULL

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On 2004-08-04 20:31, Srot BULL <pwd8jmr22w@me.point.ne.jp> wrote:
>>On 2004-08-04 17:13, Srot BULL <pwd8jmr22w@me.point.ne.jp> wrote:
>>>Why are the above firewall logs telling me that it has denied my TCP
>>>packets and yet I am not experiencing some problems in my emails and
>>>access to the internet through port 80. [...]
>>
>> Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
>> Show us the full ruleset.  Otherwise we're just guessing...

> # Flush out EVERYTHING first before starting
> ipfw -q -f flush

> CMD="ipfw -q add"
> IFN="rl0"

> $CMD 00010 allow all from any to any via lo0
> $CMD 00015 check-state
> $CMD 00099 allow tcp from any to any 6088 out via $IFN setup keep-state

> $CMD 00110 allow tcp from any to x.x.x.x   53 out via $IFN setup keep-state
> $CMD 00111 allow udp from any to x.x.x.x   53 out via $IFN       keep-state
> $CMD 00112 allow tcp from any to x.x.x.x   53 out via $IFN setup keep-state
> $CMD 00113 allow udp from any to x.x.x.x   53 out via $IFN       keep-state
> $CMD 00114 allow tcp from any to x.x.x.x   53 out via $IFN setup keep-state
> $CMD 00115 allow udp from any to x.x.x.x   53 out via $IFN       keep-state

> $CMD 00120 allow udp from any to x.x.x.x   67 out via $IFN       keep-state
> $CMD 00200 allow tcp from any to any       80 out via $IFN setup keep-state
> $CMD 00201 allow tcp from any to any     2628 out via $IFN setup keep-state
> $CMD 00202 allow tcp from any to any     1863 out via $IFN setup keep-state
> $CMD 00203 allow udp from any to any     1863 out via $IFN setup keep-state
> $CMD 00220 allow tcp from any to any      443 out via $IFN setup keep-state
> $CMD 00230 allow tcp from any to any       25 out via $IFN setup keep-state
> $CMD 00231 allow tcp from any to any      110 out via $IFN setup keep-state

> $CMD 00240 allow tcp from me to any out via $IFN setup keep-state uid root

Hmm.  I'm not sure if this is a good idea, but it's unrelated to the
denied packets you're seeing :-/

> $CMD 00250 allow icmp from any to any out via $IFN keep-state
> $CMD 00260 allow tcp from any to any       37 out via $IFN setup keep-state
> $CMD 00270 allow tcp from any to any      119 out via $IFN setup keep-state
> $CMD 00280 allow tcp from any to any       22 out via $IFN setup keep-state
> $CMD 00290 allow tcp from any to any       43 out via $IFN setup keep-state

> $CMD 00299 deny log all from any to any out via $IFN

> $CMD 00300 deny all from 192.168.0.0/16 to any in via $IFN
> $CMD 00301 deny all from 172.16.0.0/12 to any in via $IFN
> $CMD 00302 deny all from 10.0.0.0/8 to any in via $IFN

You might want to also deny incoming packets from these addresses, or fall
back to the default firewall rule -- whatever that rule is ("deny log all"
in your case).

> $CMD 00305 deny all from 169.254.0.0/16 to any in via $IFN

Hmmm, what is this address block supposed to be here for?

> #reserved for doc's#
> $CMD 00307 deny all from 204.152.64.0/23 to any in via $IFN

And this one?

> #* Deny ident *#
> $CMD 00315 deny tcp from any to any in via $IFN

A better approach that will avoid forcing everyone to wait until their
connections times out is to reply with an RST packet, which is the standard
way TCP would reply if no auth/ident service was running at all.

> #* Deny any late arriving packets *#
> $CMD 00330 deny all from any to any frag in via $IFN

Fragments are not late-arriving packets ;-)

> #* Reject & Log all incoming connections from the outside *#
> $CMD 00499 deny log all from any to any in via $IFN

This one is redundant, since it will only do the same as the one below:

> # Everything else is denied by default
> # DENY and LOG all packets that fell through to see what they are
> $CMD 00999 deny log all from any to any

> My basis for my rulesets are taken from:
> http://freebsd.a1poweruser.com:6088/FBSD_firewall/

AFAIK, the author of the page is a reader of the list too.  I can't find
anything wrong with the syntax of your rules.  The only weird thing I noticed
were the two hard-wired address blocks I mentioned above.  Perhaps the author
of the initial ruleset can help you more ;)

- Giorgos

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Marc UBM Bocklet wrote: (a long time ago!)
> Can anybody enlighten me on how to access / browse the p4 repository? On
> google I found two messages claiming that I could access / browse it via
> perforce.freebsd.org, but that doesn't seem to work anymore.
> 
> I installed p4(1) from ports, studied the man page and tried
> "p4 perforce.freebsd.org" and "p4 -H perforce.freebsd.org", but that did
> not work either, it fails with:

Perforce is a tricky beast, and you need to set up P4PORT. You can also
just browse it via the web:

http://perforce.freebsd.org

That worked for me this morning.

P4PORT needs to be set to 'perforce.freebsd.org:1666'. And then you need to
set up a client view for the project you are interested, which would look
something like:

//depot/projects/kgi4bsd/... //clientdir/...

See the quick start doc on Perforce.com for more info. And I don't see the
kgi4bsd project on the FreeBSD depot either.

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On Aug 4, 2004, at 4:11 AM, Wojciech Puchar wrote:

> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
>> we are currently developing a small program/service for our customers
>> exactly for this purpose.
>>
>> To just backup the data to a remote server is very easy, even on 
>> Windows:
>> Use cygwin. It comes together with rsync and ssh. I recommend you use
>> rsync since it is the most effective AFAIK and the transfer is safe 
>> (not
>> unimportant to law companies). Then you could run a nightly task to 
>> backup
>> the data.
>
> what is unsafe of rsh for example if network through which is going the
> traffic is under your control?
>
> ssh is SLOW.

Howso?  Using rsync with SSH wrapper allows you to not only alter only 
files that have been altered but as I understand it rsync will only 
copy changes within files over to the remote site.  SSH can be used to 
compress the transfer in addition to (of course) encrypting the 
connection and transfer, and it can be partially automated to allow 
login without passwords if you save the generated public key...

For the information supplied about what the customer would like done, 
using the SSH with Rsync may be ideal for low cost and reliable backups 
to a remote site.

-Bart

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Hi:

I made a script (for tcsh shell) which add a printer to the system
(made directories, files, security and made some validations) but
need root access to accomplish this task.

my solution was to setuid the scripts been root

# chown root:admin-hmo *.tcsh
# chmod u=3Dswrx,g=3Drx,o=3D *.tcsh
# ls -l
total 4
-rwsr-x---  1 root  admin-hmo  2024 Aug  3 04:07 impresora.tcsh
-rwsr-x---  1 root  admin-hmo   275 Jul 30 02:26 seguridad.tcsh

The first line of the script is #!/bin/tcsh -fb

But when I run the script been other user I had problem with
the permissions

> impresora.tcsh oc81p8707 p1ct203 psct203 raw
mkdir: /var/spool/lpd/oc81p8707: Permission denied
touch: /var/spool/lpd/oc81p8707/filter-errors: No such file or directory
touch: /var/spool/lpd/oc81p8707/accounting-file: No such file or
directory
/var/spool/lpd/oc81p8707/minfree: No such file or directory.

did I miss something?

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Hello,

I have Dell PE1750 server with FreeBSD 4.10-RELEASE-p2 freshly
installed. The server shows very low transfer rates with other hosts, 
but i can't see any error/strange data on interfaces/mbufs
statistics. I tried scp on both interfaces and it's very slow (approx
100KBytes/s), while if it try to route back the response packets (acks) on
the other interface it goes very fast (100MBytes/s). Swapping cables
and configuration doesn't show any difference.

The host is configured as follows:

* two gigabit ethernets: <Broadcom BCM5704C Dual Gigabit Ethernet, ASIC rev. 0x2002> 

seen as bge0 and bge1
bge0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
        options=3<RXCSUM,TXCSUM>
        inet 192.168.2.3 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.2.255
        inet6 fe80::20b:dbff:fe93:3b5a%bge0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
        ether 00:0b:db:93:3b:5a
        media: Ethernet 100baseTX <full-duplex>
        status: active
bge1: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
        options=3<RXCSUM,TXCSUM>
        inet 192.168.3.3 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.3.255
        inet6 fe80::20b:dbff:fe93:3b5b%bge1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2
        ether 00:0b:db:93:3b:5b
        media: Ethernet 100baseTX <full-duplex>
        status: active

bge1 has an alias to the host public ip address (not shown).

* 1 GB RAM

* sysctl.conf as follows:
  kern.ipc.somaxconn=1024
  kern.ipc.shmmax=700000000
  kern.ipc.shmall=524280
  kern.ipc.shm_use_phys=1

* loader.conf as follows:
  kern.ipc.nmbclusters="32768"

* routing is as follows:
netstat -rn
Routing tables

Internet:
Destination        Gateway            Flags    Refs      Use  Netif Expire
default            192.168.3.1        UGSc        1       64   bge1
127.0.0.1          127.0.0.1          UH          1     2683    lo0
192.168.0          192.168.2.1        UGSc        6     2385   bge0
192.168.2          link#1             UC          2        0   bge0
192.168.2.1        00:01:02:24:da:2c  UHLW        6     8029   bge0    972
192.168.2.3        00:0b:db:93:3b:5a  UHLW        0       87    lo0
192.168.3          link#2             UC          2        0   bge1
192.168.3.1        00:05:1c:0b:26:b3  UHLW        2     6861   bge1    988
192.168.3.3        00:0b:db:93:3b:5b  UHLW        0       17    lo0
<public network>   link#2             UC          1        0   bge1
<public ip>        00:0b:db:93:3b:5b  UHLW        0     6167    lo0


While transfering files, I see what (to me) seems a "normal" behavior
with netstat -m

515/704/131072 mbufs in use (current/peak/max):
        515 mbufs allocated to data
512/596/32768 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max)
1368 Kbytes allocated to network (1% of mb_map in use)
0 requests for memory denied
0 requests for memory delayed
0 calls to protocol drain routines

This stuff is going to drive me crazy... 
Thanks in advance for your time / help,
e.

-- 
Enrico Sirola <sirola@fisica.unige.it>

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Paredes S=E1nchez Mart=EDn A. <mparedes@telmex.com> wrote:
>=20
> Hi:
>=20
> I made a script (for tcsh shell) which add a printer to the system
> (made directories, files, security and made some validations) but
> need root access to accomplish this task.
>=20
> my solution was to setuid the scripts been root
>=20
> # chown root:admin-hmo *.tcsh
> # chmod u=3Dswrx,g=3Drx,o=3D *.tcsh
> # ls -l
> total 4
> -rwsr-x---  1 root  admin-hmo  2024 Aug  3 04:07 impresora.tcsh
> -rwsr-x---  1 root  admin-hmo   275 Jul 30 02:26 seguridad.tcsh
>=20
> The first line of the script is #!/bin/tcsh -fb
>=20
> But when I run the script been other user I had problem with
> the permissions
>=20
> > impresora.tcsh oc81p8707 p1ct203 psct203 raw
> mkdir: /var/spool/lpd/oc81p8707: Permission denied
> touch: /var/spool/lpd/oc81p8707/filter-errors: No such file or directory
> touch: /var/spool/lpd/oc81p8707/accounting-file: No such file or
> directory
> /var/spool/lpd/oc81p8707/minfree: No such file or directory.
>=20
> did I miss something?

Yes.  Scripts can't utilize setuid/setgid.

You can rewrite the script in perl and use the setuid perl interpreter
(which is basically a workaround for this) or install sudo and give the
script the ability to call sudo before executing commands that require
elevated priviledges.

--=20
Bill Moran
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Hi
sorry if this might sound lazy but I am wondering if there is any way or 
any program that reads your out put of dmesg and creates a kernel 
configuration file based on what generic kernel has found so I can use 
it to compile the new one which has only modules which I need
In that case it makes sure I have enabled all my hardware and nothing is 
being added or removed by mistake
I read somewhere that netbsd has something like adjust kernel
Help is appreciated

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Hello.

Please send replies also to my mailbox, as I'm not on this list.

Can anybody tell me what are these messages about? Are them
just informational or do I have to worry?

Aug  2 18:23:59 web kernel: lock order reversal
Aug  2 18:23:59 web kernel: 1st 0xc07066e0 UMA lock (UMA lock) @ 
/usr/src/sys/vm/uma_core.c:1200
Aug  2 18:23:59 web kernel: 2nd 0xc0c31100 system map (system map) @ 
/usr/src/sys/vm/vm_map.c:2210
Aug  2 19:12:21 web kernel: lock order reversal
Aug  2 19:12:21 web kernel: 1st 0xc8c1c39c vm object (vm object) @ 
/usr/src/sys/vm/swap_pager.c:1323
Aug  2 19:12:21 web kernel: 2nd 0xc0705b80 swap_pager swhash (swap_pager 
swhash) @ /usr/src/sys/vm/swap_pager.c:1838
Aug  2 19:12:21 web kernel: 3rd 0xc6853108 vm object (vm object) @ 
/usr/src/sys/vm/uma_core.c:873

They started showing up after last world upgrade

web.dti.supsi.ch# uname -a
FreeBSD web.dti.supsi.ch 5.2.1-RELEASE-p9 FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE-p9 #2: 
Fri Jul 30 17:35:55 CEST 2004     root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/WEB  i386

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Roberto Nunnari wrote:
> Hello.
>=20
> Please send replies also to my mailbox, as I'm not on this list.
>=20
> Can anybody tell me what are these messages about? Are them
> just informational or do I have to worry?
>=20
> Aug  2 18:23:59 web kernel: lock order reversal
> Aug  2 18:23:59 web kernel: 1st 0xc07066e0 UMA lock (UMA lock) @=20
> /usr/src/sys/vm/uma_core.c:1200
> Aug  2 18:23:59 web kernel: 2nd 0xc0c31100 system map (system map) @=20
> /usr/src/sys/vm/vm_map.c:2210
> Aug  2 19:12:21 web kernel: lock order reversal
> Aug  2 19:12:21 web kernel: 1st 0xc8c1c39c vm object (vm object) @=20
> /usr/src/sys/vm/swap_pager.c:1323
> Aug  2 19:12:21 web kernel: 2nd 0xc0705b80 swap_pager swhash (swap_pager=
=20
> swhash) @ /usr/src/sys/vm/swap_pager.c:1838
> Aug  2 19:12:21 web kernel: 3rd 0xc6853108 vm object (vm object) @=20
> /usr/src/sys/vm/uma_core.c:873

This is a so-called lock order reversal (LOR). To learn more about LORs
in general and specifically about the one you are seeing, please see
here:

http://sources.zabbadoz.net/freebsd/lor.html --> # 007

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I have rrdtool plotting graphs for me for system performance, memory,
cpu etc, and about 4:30 AM, my cpu utilization goes through the roof.

I know this is amanda (backup) doing this as it runs at this time, but
I am curious to know if there are any utilities that can *watch* the
system at night and report what did what and when.

Perhaps something that can report if something uses xx% of cpu, or
xxMB of memory?

Tks,

Steve



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Thank you Simon.


Simon Barner wrote:
> Roberto Nunnari wrote:
> 
>>Hello.
>>
>>Please send replies also to my mailbox, as I'm not on this list.
>>
>>Can anybody tell me what are these messages about? Are them
>>just informational or do I have to worry?
>>
>>Aug  2 18:23:59 web kernel: lock order reversal
>>Aug  2 18:23:59 web kernel: 1st 0xc07066e0 UMA lock (UMA lock) @ 
>>/usr/src/sys/vm/uma_core.c:1200
>>Aug  2 18:23:59 web kernel: 2nd 0xc0c31100 system map (system map) @ 
>>/usr/src/sys/vm/vm_map.c:2210
>>Aug  2 19:12:21 web kernel: lock order reversal
>>Aug  2 19:12:21 web kernel: 1st 0xc8c1c39c vm object (vm object) @ 
>>/usr/src/sys/vm/swap_pager.c:1323
>>Aug  2 19:12:21 web kernel: 2nd 0xc0705b80 swap_pager swhash (swap_pager 
>>swhash) @ /usr/src/sys/vm/swap_pager.c:1838
>>Aug  2 19:12:21 web kernel: 3rd 0xc6853108 vm object (vm object) @ 
>>/usr/src/sys/vm/uma_core.c:873
> 
> 
> This is a so-called lock order reversal (LOR). To learn more about LORs
> in general and specifically about the one you are seeing, please see
> here:
> 
> http://sources.zabbadoz.net/freebsd/lor.html --> # 007
> 
> Simon
> 


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--- Mark Jayson Alvarez <jay2xra@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I'm just curious: what version of Windows 2000 and/or
> Partition Magic are you using? Because in my case
> partition magic 8 didn't allow it to install itself in
> Windows 2000 server.


For Windows 2000 Server/Advanced Server - You will need "Server
Magic"(Partition Magic for Servers).


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Hi Giorgos et al,

thanks for your patience.

I have enclosed the output of dsmeg, ps, XF86Config if it helps in
understanding why my system runs slower than W2000 & why I cannot connect to
the net via my broadband connection.

--- Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr> wrote:
> Bearing this in mind you might, of course, find it a bit more reassuring to
> run a firewall like IPFW.  But this doesn't *require* a kernel recompile.
> You can simply load the ipfw.ko module with kldload(8) and immediatelly
> start setting up the rules of your firewall ruleset.  As root, you can load
> the ipfw module by:	# kldload ipfw

Thanks for that. I have ipfw loaded okay(I hope). After reading 14.8.3 from the
handbook regarding IPFW, I was a little worried.

"14.8.3 Enabling IPFW on FreeBSD
As the main part of the IPFW system lives in the kernel, you will need to add
one or more options to your kernel configuration file, depending on what
facilities you want, and RECOMPILE your kernel."



> The default set of firewall packet inspection rules that ipfw loads will
> block *EVERYTHING* so you might want to do a bit of research on the
> available rulesets by reading about rc.firewall, rc.conf and/or browse the
> contents of the /etc/defaults/rc.conf file:

If I understand it correctly after reading the handbook, if I add 
'firewall_type=open' in my '/etc/rc.conf' file, will it make all
incoming/outgoing ports open so I can connect to the net with sysinstall to
download packages ???



> The "bad intepreter" error means that the `install.sh' script (most likely)
> starts with a line like this:
> Edit `install.sh' and replace `/bin/bash' with `/usr/local/bin/bash' if you
> have bash installed. 

Legend.  Got this script working now :))

...Except...All modules seem to install okay Except for "mod_perl".


I get the error:
-----------------------
[-] 16) -Mod Perl 1.29

Choice [?] 16
LWP::UserAgent not installed!
HTML::HeadParser not installed!
Type "perl -MCPAN -e shell" to start the perl CPAN
shell, then "install LWP::UserAgent" to install the LWP::UserAgent module!
Substitute LWP::UserAgent for any perl module.
------------------------------

I don't understand what I am supposed to "substitute" (above) ???




Other problems(Doh!):

1) For automount, I edited /etc/fstab.
It was easier & more logical than the editing amd(/etc/amd.conf & /etc/amd.map)
Problem: There has to be a CD in the CD drive & a floppy in the floppy drive
otherwise the drives don't automount & the bootup faulters !!
- This is annoying. Is there a way around this so I can automount at bootup
without a disk being in the drive ???



2) I ran xf86config & generated a new config file. It broke X & I was not able
to log in. Thankfully I saved a working one to floppy.
Any suggestions as to what I can change in my XF86Config file(attached) so that
all the hardware is being utilised & that the screen is being used fully
instead of only 80%  ???
-------------------------
My Monitor Specs(If this helps):
viewsonic  pf775  
1600x1200 @ 77Hz 
1280x1024 @ 90Hz 
1024x768 @ 118Hz 
800x600 @ 149Hz
Frequency f h: 30~97kHz; f v: 50~180Hz  
---------------------------




3) I tried to intstall the login client for my broadband connection so I can
use sysinstall to download & install packages.
The program fails on make & make install!

Screen Output
-------------------
127# make install
Makefile error: there is no COMMENT variable defined
for this port. Please, rectify this.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/ports/distfiles/login.
-------------------

Makefile
-----------------------------
PORTNAME=      login
PORTVERSION=   2.0
CATEGORIES=    net
MASTER_SITES=  http://
DISTNAME=      login
EXTRACT_SUFX=  -2.0-unix-src.tar.gz

GNU_CONFIGURE= yes
USE_GMAKE=     yes

post-extract:
	$(CP) $(FILESDIR)/login.sh $(WRKSRC)

.include <bsd.port.mk>
-----------------------

Any suggestions as to what "COMMENT variable" it wants defined ??? 




4) I am taking your advice & am trying to connect to the net with sysinstall so
I can download packages/ports & hopefully find an easier way to install apps.
However when I go through the steps to install a package & select a freebsd ftp
site, at the end, a prompt comes up saying something like "cannot resolve
ftp... name server, network needs to be configured..) ... or something like
that

Q: Do I need to get my broadband login client working to connect to the net OR
can I login to my ISP from a terminal within BSD ???

Q: Do I need to login to my broadband ISP via my login client to enable
"sysinstall" to be able to download packages etc ... ???

Q: Like tracert on W2000, is their a command I can use in BSD to see when I am
connected to the net ???



Kind Regards,

DK


		
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Section "ServerLayout"
	Identifier     "XFree86 Configured"
	Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
	InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
	InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "Files"
	RgbPath      "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
	ModulePath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
	FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
	FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/"
	FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
	FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
	FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
EndSection

Section "Module"
	Load  "dbe"
	Load  "dri"
	Load  "extmod"
	Load  "glx"
	Load  "record"
	Load  "xtrap"
	Load  "speedo"
	Load  "type1"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
	Identifier  "Keyboard0"
	Driver      "keyboard"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
	Identifier  "Mouse0"
	Driver      "mouse"
	Option	    "Protocol" "auto"
	Option	    "Device" "/dev/sysmouse"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
	Identifier   "Monitor0"
	VendorName   "VSC"
	ModelName    "PF775"
	HorizSync    30-107
	VertRefresh  50.0-100.0
	Option	     "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Device"
        ### Available Driver options are:-
        ### Values: <i>: integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False",
        ### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz"
        ### [arg]: arg optional
        #Option     "SWcursor"           	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "HWcursor"           	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "NoAccel"            	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "ShowCache"          	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "ShadowFB"           	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "UseFBDev"           	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "Rotate"             	# [<str>]
        #Option     "VideoKey"           	# <i>
        #Option     "FlatPanel"          	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "FPDither"           	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "CrtcNumber"         	# <i>
	Identifier  "Card0"
	Driver      "nv"
	VendorName  "nVidia Corporation"
	BoardName   "NV4 [RIVA TNT]"
	BusID       "PCI:0:20:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
	Identifier "Screen0"
	Device     "Card0"
	Monitor    "Monitor0"
	DefaultDepth 24
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth     16
		Modes     "1024x768"
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth     24
		Modes	  "1024x768"
	EndSubSection
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Copyright (c) 1992-2004 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
	The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 4.10-RELEASE #0: Tue May 25 22:47:12 GMT 2004
    root@perseus.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
CPU: Pentium/P54C (179.63-MHz 586-class CPU)
  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x52c  Stepping = 12
  Features=0x1bf<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8>
real memory  = 134217728 (131072K bytes)
avail memory = 125165568 (122232K bytes)
Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0551000.
Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug
md0: Malloc disk
npx0: <math processor> on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
pcib0: <Host to PCI bridge> on motherboard
pci0: <PCI bus> on pcib0
isab0: <Intel 82371SB PCI to ISA bridge> at device 7.0 on pci0
isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0
atapci0: <Intel PIIX3 ATA controller> port 0xf000-0xf00f at device 7.1 on pci0
ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0
rl0: <Accton MPX 5030/5038 10/100BaseTX> port 0x6000-0x60ff mem 0xe2000000-0xe20000ff irq 11 at device 17.0 on pci0
rl0: Ethernet address: 00:e0:29:65:bb:23
miibus0: <MII bus> on rl0
rlphy0: <RealTek internal media interface> on miibus0
rlphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
ahc0: <Adaptec 2940A Ultra SCSI adapter> port 0x6100-0x61ff mem 0xe2001000-0xe2001fff irq 9 at device 19.0 on pci0
aic7860: Ultra Single Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 3/253 SCBs
pci0: <NVidia Riva TNT graphics accelerator> at 20.0 irq 9
orm0: <Option ROM> at iomem 0xc0000-0xc7fff on isa0
pmtimer0 on isa0
fdc0: <NEC 72065B or clone> at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0
fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0
atkbdc0: <Keyboard controller (i8042)> at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0
atkbd0: <AT Keyboard> flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0
kbd0 at atkbd0
psm0: <PS/2 Mouse> irq 12 on atkbdc0
psm0: model IntelliMouse Explorer, device ID 4
vga0: <Generic ISA VGA> at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0
sc0: <System console> at flags 0x100 on isa0
sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300>
sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
sio0: type 16550A
sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0
sio1: type 16550A
ppc0: <Parallel port> at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0
ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
plip0: <PLIP network interface> on ppbus0
lpt0: <Printer> on ppbus0
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
ppi0: <Parallel I/O> on ppbus0
ata4: <Generic ESDI/IDE/ATA controller> at port 0x168-0x16f,0x36e-0x36f irq 10 on isa0
ad0: 4892MB <QUANTUM FIREBALL EL5.1A> [10602/15/63] at ata0-master WDMA2
ad2: 1222MB <QUANTUM FIREBALL1280A> [2484/16/63] at ata1-master WDMA2
acd0: CDROM <CRD-8400B> at ata1-slave PIO4
Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle
Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a
IP packet filtering initialized, divert disabled, rule-based forwarding enabled, default to deny, logging disabled
nfs send error 13 for server pid85@127:/host
nfs send error 13 for server pid1@127:/net
cd9660: RockRidge Extension
fd0c: hard error reading fsbn 0 of 0-3 (No status)

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  UID   PID  PPID CPU PRI NI   VSZ  RSS WCHAN  STAT  TT       TIME COMMAND
    0     0     0   0 -18  0     0    0 sched  DLs   ??    0:00.00 swapper
    0     1     0   0  10  0   552  204 wait   ILs   ??    0:00.04 init
    0     2     0   0  10  0     0    0 tqthr  DL    ??    0:00.00 taskqueue
    0     3     0   0  28  0     0    0 idle   DL    ??    0:00.00 aic_recovery0
    0     4     0   0  28  0     0    0 idle   DL    ??    0:00.00 aic_recovery0
    0     5     0   0 -18  0     0    0 psleep DL    ??    0:00.08 pagedaemon
    0     6     0   0  18  0     0    0 psleep DL    ??    0:00.00 vmdaemon
    0     7     0   0 -18  0     0    0 psleep DL    ??    0:00.06 bufdaemon
    0     8     0   0  -2  0     0    0 vlruwt DL    ??    0:00.67 vnlru
    0     9     0   0  18  0     0    0 syncer DL    ??    0:02.12 syncer
    0    71     1   0   2  0   988  644 select Ss    ??    0:00.27 syslogd
    1    74     1 157   2  0   944  452 select Is    ??    0:00.00 portmap
    0    79     1 157  10  0   212   28 nfsidl I     ??    0:00.00 nfsiod
    0    80     1 157  10  0   212   28 nfsidl I     ??    0:00.00 nfsiod
    0    81     1 157  10  0   212   28 nfsidl I     ??    0:00.00 nfsiod
    0    82     1 157  10  0   212   28 nfsidl I     ??    0:00.00 nfsiod
    0    86     1   0   2  0  1140  656 sbwait D     ??    0:00.02 amd
    0    87     1   0   2  0  1140  656 sbwait D     ??    0:00.02 amd
    0    92     1 157   2  0  1060  612 select Is    ??    0:00.00 inetd
    0    94     1   0  10  0  1028  680 nanslp Is    ??    0:00.07 cron
    0    96     1  99   2  0  2596 1360 select Is    ??    0:03.19 sshd
    0    99     1   0   2  0  3036 1672 select Ss    ??    0:00.62 sendmail
   25   102     1   3  18  0  2936 1580 pause  Is    ??    0:00.02 sendmail
    0   128     1   0   2  0   920  484 select Is    ??    0:31.25 moused
   88   182   145   0   2  0 51288 18608 poll   S     ??    0:19.62 mysqld
    0   200   199   1   2  0 47468 46344 select S     ??    2:21.69 XFree86
    0  1874     1   0   2  0   936  644 select Ss    ??    0:00.03 dhclient
    0  4799  4798   0  18  0  1352  864 pause  Ss    p0    0:00.47 csh
    0  4864  4799   1  28  0   456  252 -      R+    p0    0:00.00 ps
    0  4636  4612   0  18  0  1356  856 pause  Is    p1    0:00.19 csh
    0  4807  4636   0  10  0  1128  616 wait   I+    p1    0:00.02 man
    0  4808  4807   0  10  0   628  416 wait   I+    p1    0:00.01 sh
    0  4809  4808   0  -6  0   604  204 pipdwt I+    p1    0:00.01 zcat
    0  4810  4808   0   3  0  1268  868 ttyin  I+    p1    0:00.17 more
    0   738   737   0   3  0  1340  844 ttyin  Is+   p2    0:00.16 csh
    0  1476  1469  70   3  0  1336  840 ttyin  Is+   p3    0:00.16 csh
    0  4781  4780   0   2  0  1984 1160 select Ss+   p4    0:02.90 top
    0   164     1   3  10  0  1272  872 wait   Is    v0    0:00.11 login
    0   183   164  13  18  0  1332  832 pause  I     v0    0:00.13 csh
    0   185   183 175  10  0   636  240 wait   I+    v0    0:00.03 sh
    0   199   185   0  10  0  2168 1140 wait   I+    v0    0:00.04 xinit
    0   205   199   0   2  0  5280 3080 select S     v0    0:39.93 wmaker
    0   208   205   0   2  0  2796 1792 poll   S     v0    0:00.72 xload
    0   209   205   0   2  0  2796 1792 poll   S     v0    0:00.69 xload
    0   737   205   0   2  0  4332 2724 select I     v0    0:00.99 xterm
    0  1469     1   0   2  0  4380 2836 select I     v0    0:01.18 xterm
    0  2748   205   0   2  0  7616 4656 select S     v0    0:27.42 xfe
    0  4612     1   0   2  0  4456 3024 select I     v0    0:02.80 xterm
    0  4762   205   0   2  0  6880 4684 poll   I     v0    0:03.25 nedit
    0  4780   205   0   2  0  4332 2956 select S     v0    0:01.27 xterm
    0  4798   205   0  28  0  4436 3060 -      R     v0    0:01.73 xterm
    0   165     1   1   3  0   956  588 ttyin  Is+   v1    0:00.02 getty
    0   166     1   1   3  0   956  588 ttyin  Is+   v2    0:00.02 getty
    0   167     1   3   3  0   956  588 ttyin  Is+   v3    0:00.02 getty
    0   168     1   2   3  0   956  588 ttyin  Is+   v4    0:00.03 getty
    0   169     1   1   3  0   956  588 ttyin  Is+   v5    0:00.02 getty
    0   170     1   3   3  0   956  588 ttyin  Is+   v6    0:00.02 getty
    0   171     1   3   3  0   956  588 ttyin  Is+   v7    0:00.02 getty
    0   145     1 180  10  0   648  256 wait   I+   con-   0:00.06 sh

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> 
> On Tuesday 03 August 2004 11:30 am, Jerry McAllister wrote:
> > > Hi there,
> > >
> > > I would like to know if there is a Certification Program for FreeBSD,
> > > OpenBSD or
> > > NetBSD, like SUN's Solaris Certification Program for example.
> > >
> > > If there is, what is the procedure to make the exam(s)? I am in
> > > Salvador/Bahia/BRAZIL.
> >
> > The short answer is no.
> > Some other people may wish to give a more comprehensive answer.
> >
> > Anyway, the FreeBSD organization is not a company in the same sense
> > as Sun or Microsloth, etc that can set up a program to certify people
> > in its wonders.    The FreeBSD organization is a group of volunteers
> > from all over the world that contribute to make the system.  Although
> > there is a core group that steers the project and tries to make sure
> > additions and modifications are clean and meet standards, there is
> > nothing that specifies the official way you must use the system.
> >
> > But, I have heard of some organizations that have undertaken to make
> > up some training for FreeBSD and for UNIX in general.   It seemd even
> > like one might be in Brazil.  But, I do not remember names or addresses.
> > You might do some Google searching for FreeBSD training or something
> > like that and see what you get.
> >
> > ////jerry
> 
> The longer answer is yes :)
> 
> NJIT offers open source unix certification (and it's recognized/endorsed by 
> the FreeBSD Foundation)
> 
> http://cpe.njit.edu/noncredit/#opensourceunix
> 
> avaiable both online and in classroom.

OK.  That must be one of the third-party programs I have heard about.
I didn't know any were officially endorsed by FreeBSD.

////jerry

> 
> Tim Kellers
> 
> CPE/NJIT
> 
> 

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> 
> On Tuesday 03 August 2004 11:30 am, Jerry McAllister wrote:
> > > Hi there,
> > >
> > > I would like to know if there is a Certification Program for FreeBSD,
> > > OpenBSD or
> > > NetBSD, like SUN's Solaris Certification Program for example.
> > >
> > > If there is, what is the procedure to make the exam(s)? I am in
> > > Salvador/Bahia/BRAZIL.
> >
> > The short answer is no.
> > Some other people may wish to give a more comprehensive answer.
> >
> > Anyway, the FreeBSD organization is not a company in the same sense
> > as Sun or Microsloth, etc that can set up a program to certify people
> > in its wonders.    The FreeBSD organization is a group of volunteers
> > from all over the world that contribute to make the system.  Although
> > there is a core group that steers the project and tries to make sure
> > additions and modifications are clean and meet standards, there is
> > nothing that specifies the official way you must use the system.
> >
> > But, I have heard of some organizations that have undertaken to make
> > up some training for FreeBSD and for UNIX in general.   It seemd even
> > like one might be in Brazil.  But, I do not remember names or addresses.
> > You might do some Google searching for FreeBSD training or something
> > like that and see what you get.
> >
> > ////jerry
> 
> The longer answer is yes :)
> 
> NJIT offers open source unix certification (and it's recognized/endorsed by 
> the FreeBSD Foundation)
> 
> http://cpe.njit.edu/noncredit/#opensourceunix
> 
> avaiable both online and in classroom.

OK.  That must be one of the third-party programs I have heard about.
I didn't know any were officially endorsed by FreeBSD.

////jerry

> 
> Tim Kellers
> 
> CPE/NJIT
> 
> 

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"Steve Bertrand" <iaccounts@ibctech.ca> wrote:

> I have rrdtool plotting graphs for me for system performance, memory,
> cpu etc, and about 4:30 AM, my cpu utilization goes through the roof.
> 
> I know this is amanda (backup) doing this as it runs at this time, but
> I am curious to know if there are any utilities that can *watch* the
> system at night and report what did what and when.
> 
> Perhaps something that can report if something uses xx% of cpu, or
> xxMB of memory?

Sounds like you want process accounting.

Check out the man pages for acct(2), accton(8), sa(8) and lastcomm(1)

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On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 09:47:30 -0400
Ara Avvali <Ara@Avvali.COM> wrote:

> Hi
> sorry if this might sound lazy but I am wondering if there is any way or 
> any program that reads your out put of dmesg and creates a kernel 
> configuration file based on what generic kernel has found so I can use 
> it to compile the new one which has only modules which I need

See current@ archives from last 3 weeks  or so for a vast discussion on
this topic.


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Honestly, you'll get much better response if you ask 1 question per email.
An email this long with multiple questions in it forces someone to read
the entire email just to see if there's something there they want to answer.

DK <asdzxc111@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi Giorgos et al,
> 
> thanks for your patience.
> 
> I have enclosed the output of dsmeg, ps, XF86Config if it helps in
> understanding why my system runs slower than W2000 & why I cannot connect to
> the net via my broadband connection.
> 
> --- Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr> wrote:
> > Bearing this in mind you might, of course, find it a bit more reassuring to
> > run a firewall like IPFW.  But this doesn't *require* a kernel recompile.
> > You can simply load the ipfw.ko module with kldload(8) and immediatelly
> > start setting up the rules of your firewall ruleset.  As root, you can load
> > the ipfw module by:	# kldload ipfw
> 
> Thanks for that. I have ipfw loaded okay(I hope). After reading 14.8.3 from
> the
> handbook regarding IPFW, I was a little worried.
> 
> "14.8.3 Enabling IPFW on FreeBSD
> As the main part of the IPFW system lives in the kernel, you will need to add
> one or more options to your kernel configuration file, depending on what
> facilities you want, and RECOMPILE your kernel."

It _used_ to be this way ... it looks like it's time to update that page
of the handbook.

> > The default set of firewall packet inspection rules that ipfw loads will
> > block *EVERYTHING* so you might want to do a bit of research on the
> > available rulesets by reading about rc.firewall, rc.conf and/or browse the
> > contents of the /etc/defaults/rc.conf file:
> 
> If I understand it correctly after reading the handbook, if I add 
> 'firewall_type=open' in my '/etc/rc.conf' file, will it make all
> incoming/outgoing ports open so I can connect to the net with sysinstall to
> download packages ???

Yes.

> > The "bad intepreter" error means that the `install.sh' script (most likely)
> > starts with a line like this:
> > Edit `install.sh' and replace `/bin/bash' with `/usr/local/bin/bash' if you
> > have bash installed. 
> 
> Legend.  Got this script working now :))
> 
> ...Except...All modules seem to install okay Except for "mod_perl".
> 
> 
> I get the error:
> -----------------------
> [-] 16) -Mod Perl 1.29
> 
> Choice [?] 16
> LWP::UserAgent not installed!
> HTML::HeadParser not installed!
> Type "perl -MCPAN -e shell" to start the perl CPAN
> shell, then "install LWP::UserAgent" to install the LWP::UserAgent module!
> Substitute LWP::UserAgent for any perl module.
> ------------------------------
> 
> I don't understand what I am supposed to "substitute" (above) ???

With the name of the perl module.

Apparently, that script is making assumptions about what is installed on
your system, and is assuming wrong.  Doesn't sound like a very good
script.

You'll have a better time of it if you look up the "UserAgent" and
"HeadParser" packages for perl in the ports collection and install them
from there, but the CPAN method will work as well.  See the CPAN docs
for details.

> Other problems(Doh!):
> 
> 1) For automount, I edited /etc/fstab.
> It was easier & more logical than the editing amd(/etc/amd.conf & /etc/amd.map)
> Problem: There has to be a CD in the CD drive & a floppy in the floppy drive
> otherwise the drives don't automount & the bootup faulters !!
> - This is annoying. Is there a way around this so I can automount at bootup
> without a disk being in the drive ???

You're a little confused.  I saw an email go by earlier with someone
suggesting changes to /etc/fstab, and that was bad advice and probably
what confused you.

Putting those entries in /etc/fstab does not constitute "automounting",
it just causes them to be mounted.

Although it's easier to set up, it's not a good idea to configure removable
devices to mount automatically at boot up by adding entries to /etc/fstab
(as you've discovered)

The method using amd is the correct way to do it, it causes the amd
program to check for media in the drive and mount it if available.
This is the behaviour you're used to in Windows, and will not be
accomplished by editing /etc/fstab.  /etc/fstab is a list of filesystems
that must be mounted at boot time, and would create unreasonable
requirements for removable media.  Additionally, when you switch
media (i.e. change to a different CD) the new CD won't be remounted.
amd can handle this.

> 4) I am taking your advice & am trying to connect to the net with
> sysinstall so
> I can download packages/ports & hopefully find an easier way to install apps.
> However when I go through the steps to install a package & select a
> freebsd ftp
> site, at the end, a prompt comes up saying something like "cannot resolve
> ftp... name server, network needs to be configured..) ... or something like
> that
> 
> Q: Do I need to get my broadband login client working to connect to the net OR
> can I login to my ISP from a terminal within BSD ???

Depends on the connection system you use for your broadband access.
If they're using standard TCP, then you just need to set up the
network card for DHCP.  If they're using PPPOE, you'll need to log
in.

> Q: Do I need to login to my broadband ISP via my login client to enable
> "sysinstall" to be able to download packages etc ... ???

You need access.  What you have to do to get access is dependent on your
ISP.

> Q: Like tracert on W2000, is their a command I can use in BSD to see when I am
> connected to the net ???

W2K's tracert is based on BSD's traceroute

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I've recently been using portversion -r and  pkg_cutleaves to find unwanted 
ports that I can deinstall. However, it appears that neither of these takes 
into account build-dependencies. 

Is there a tool that will find true port-leaves, rather than package leaves?

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> "Steve Bertrand" <iaccounts@ibctech.ca> wrote:
>
>> I have rrdtool plotting graphs for me for system performance,
>> memory,
>> cpu etc, and about 4:30 AM, my cpu utilization goes through the
>> roof.
>>
>> I know this is amanda (backup) doing this as it runs at this time,
>> but
>> I am curious to know if there are any utilities that can *watch* the
>> system at night and report what did what and when.
>>
>> Perhaps something that can report if something uses xx% of cpu, or
>> xxMB of memory?
>
> Sounds like you want process accounting.
>
> Check out the man pages for acct(2), accton(8), sa(8) and lastcomm(1)

Excellent, this is exactly what I was looking for.

Thanks very much Bill.

Cheers!

Steve


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Hi,

I would like to compile some OpenGL stuff on my BSD box. Unfortunately, the GL 
libraries are not in /usr/include/GL - they are in /usr/X11R6/include/GL and my 
C compiler does not see that by default.

One easy way around this is, I think, to just soft link /usr/X11R6/include/* to 
/usr/include/ - but that would defeat the point of seperating the X11 includes 
from the system includes. What is the right way to set this up so that my C 
compiler, no matter which one it is, will always find the GL libraries? Is there 
some kind of 'cc.conf' somewhere in the same sense as there is a 'make.conf'?

I am new to C - in fact this OpenGL stuff is my first exposure to it. I'm sure 
that this is an elementary question, and the only reason that I post it to the 
list is that I am trying to find a way to solve my problem that is more in 
keeping with BSD philosophy than simply moving /usr/X11R6/include into /usr/include.

_jason

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I just noticed that I didn't create *quite* enough space in my /var 
partition for accepting somewhat larger email attachments/ messages.

i thought softupdates was the way to go, but on reading the handbook 
online, that's not quite what i thought it was ....

is there any way with 5.2.1 to move around disc space between partitions 
"on the fly" ?



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> 
> Hi,
> 
> I would like to compile some OpenGL stuff on my BSD box. Unfortunately, the GL 
> libraries are not in /usr/include/GL - they are in /usr/X11R6/include/GL and my 
> C compiler does not see that by default.

Check out compiler options such as -I for include file directories
and linker options such as -L  for library directories.
See man cc

////jerry


> 
> One easy way around this is, I think, to just soft link /usr/X11R6/include/* to 
> /usr/include/ - but that would defeat the point of seperating the X11 includes 
> from the system includes. What is the right way to set this up so that my C 
> compiler, no matter which one it is, will always find the GL libraries? Is there 
> some kind of 'cc.conf' somewhere in the same sense as there is a 'make.conf'?
> 
> I am new to C - in fact this OpenGL stuff is my first exposure to it. I'm sure 
> that this is an elementary question, and the only reason that I post it to the 
> list is that I am trying to find a way to solve my problem that is more in 
> keeping with BSD philosophy than simply moving /usr/X11R6/include into /usr/include.
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Comrade Burnout <geektron@comradeburnout.com> wrote:

> I just noticed that I didn't create *quite* enough space in my /var 
> partition for accepting somewhat larger email attachments/ messages.
> 
> i thought softupdates was the way to go, but on reading the handbook 
> online, that's not quite what i thought it was ....

No.  Softupdates is a method of improving performance by optimizing
writes to the disk ... has no real relation to the space involved.

> is there any way with 5.2.1 to move around disc space between partitions 
> "on the fly" ?

Definately not "on the fly".

You _can_ use growfs to increase the size of a filesystem, but you must
have unused space on the hard drive to grow your partition first.

The more traditional way of solving the problem is to symlink the
directory that needs the space to a partition with more space.  For
example, if you're running out of space in /var/spool, and you've got
tons of space in /usr, the following procedure will work:

1) Stop any/all programs that might access /var/spool (best thing to
   do is "shutdown now" to go to single user mode)
2) mkdir /usr/spool
3) Compare /usr/spool to /var/spool to ensure that the permissions are
   identical.  Change as needed.
4) cp -Rp /var/spool/* /usr/spool/.
5) mv /var/spool /var/spool.old
6) ln -s /usr/spool /var/spool
7) Reboot or restart any programs that will access /var/spool
8) After a sufficient amount of time to ensure that everything worked OK,
   you can delete /var/spool.old

IMHO, the best way to avoid/deal with this problem is to do the following
the next time you install:
1) Make the entire disk one big Vinum partition
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   filesystem size.  Hell, you can even add new disks if you fill up the
   entire disk!

HTH

-- 
Bill Moran
Potential Technologies
http://www.potentialtech.com

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Tim Aslat <tim@spyderweb.com.au> writes:

> Try one of the multitude of rsync based scripts, you can even get some
> very good incremental backups happening,

I have been thinking about this for my own use.  One problem with
basic rsync is that if (say) I trash a critical file and don't notice
it for a couple days, the (nightly) rsync will have overwritten the
good version with the trashed version. 

So I've been thinking of having maybe 5 different copies at the
destination and rsyncing to a different one each night so I have 5
different "backups" to go to -- just like in the days of
tape. Something conceptually like:

  rsync -avR --delete / remote:/BACKUP/`expr $dayofyear % 5`/

Yeah, you need to store 5x copies of your client's data, but disk is cheap.
It gives 'em 5 days to realize they've just hosed that critical file
and you can be a hero for restoring it. Income potential.

You might be able to achieve similar by rsyncing to a single
destination directory and using FreeBSD-5.x's "snapshot"
facility. Create a (read only) snapshot of the destination partition
every night. it only costs you the amount of diskspace consumed by
*changes* from the snapshot to the current data. Like a NetApp. Keep 5
snapshots around and get the same effect as the multiple rsync
destinations in my example above.  Haven't tried this but it seems
appealing.


Also, the original poster mentioned the source was windoze.  If you
google "rsync windows" you'll find help on installing ssh and rsync on
a Windoze box so maybe you don't need UNIX at your client's firm.

Check SAMBA for access to shares.  Amanda used to have some hooks to
backup 'doze shares to tapes, perhaps you could leverage their work.

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> 
> I just noticed that I didn't create *quite* enough space in my /var 
> partition for accepting somewhat larger email attachments/ messages.
> 
> i thought softupdates was the way to go, but on reading the handbook 
> online, that's not quite what i thought it was ....
> 
> is there any way with 5.2.1 to move around disc space between partitions 
> "on the fly" ?

Well, mostly no, but if you happen to have left some unused space
contiguous to the partition you have mounted as /var, then
you can try using growfs(8)

But, really, you should either move some stuff from /var, such 
as /var/spool in to some larger space and make a symlink to it
or just start over with partition sizes rethought out according 
to your more recent experience of your usage patterns.

If you have some large partition sitting there with lots of space,
it is easy to move some stuf in to it and make the links.  I commonly
move /var/spool and /var/log somewhere else because they are the
most likely to grow uncontrollably or unexpectedly.  I usually 
make reasonable sized partitions for /, /tmp, /usr and /var and
then one big one to hold all the stuff whose size can't be easily
guessed (which I usually call either home or work).

You should be able to find notes on doing this by searching the 
mailing list archive.   I have posted sets of instructions and
have seen some posted by others several times.

////jerry

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   Jerry McAllister wrote:

I just noticed that I didn't create *quite* enough space in my /var 
partition for accepting somewhat larger email attachments/ messages.

i thought softupdates was the way to go, but on reading the handbook 
online, that's not quite what i thought it was ....

is there any way with 5.2.1 to move around disc space between partitions 
"on the fly" ?
    

Well, mostly no, but if you happen to have left some unused space
contiguous to the partition you have mounted as /var, then
you can try using growfs(8)
  

   i don't think i left any unused space sitting around, so it doesn't
   look like growfs is going to be an option.

But, really, you should either move some stuff from /var, such 
as /var/spool in to some larger space and make a symlink to it
or just start over with partition sizes rethought out according 
to your more recent experience of your usage patterns.
  

   not an option right now.  i didn't think my partitions through all the
   way .... /var is the only problem one.

If you have some large partition sitting there with lots of space,
it is easy to move some stuf in to it and make the links.  I commonly
move /var/spool and /var/log somewhere else because they are the
most likely to grow uncontrollably or unexpectedly.  I usually 
make reasonable sized partitions for /, /tmp, /usr and /var and
then one big one to hold all the stuff whose size can't be easily
guessed (which I usually call either home or work).
  

   i'm more than familiar with doing it the 'traditional' way -- creating
   a new dir, say /opt/sysmail/mail and symlinking it to /var/spool/mail.
   i was hoping there was another way to do it.

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   Bill Moran wrote:

Comrade Burnout [1]<geektron@comradeburnout.com> wrote:



I just noticed that I didn't create *quite* enough space in my /var
partition for accepting somewhat larger email attachments/ messages.

i thought softupdates was the way to go, but on reading the handbook
online, that's not quite what i thought it was ....


No.  Softupdates is a method of improving performance by optimizing
writes to the disk ... has no real relation to the space involved.



is there any way with 5.2.1 to move around disc space between partitions
"on the fly" ?


Definately not "on the fly".


   well, that's why i left it in quotes.  "on the fly" as opposed to
   reinstalling/ rebuilding partitions.
   i don't want to have to do a newfw(8)  on the partitions and have to
   try and get all the data back ... i can re-edit partition tables, but
   i'm not 100% familiar with doing it command-line ( read: not from
   sysinstall at install time ) so i'd rather not risk goofing the data
   ...

IMHO, the best way to avoid/deal with this problem is to do the following
the next time you install:
1) Make the entire disk one big Vinum partition
2) Make Vinum subdisks for the different partitions you want.  Size them
   accordingly, and _leave_any_unneeded_space_unused_!
3) Later if you find you messed up, Vinum gives you the power to join unused
   space to an existing subdisk, and you can then use growfs to increase the
   filesystem size.  Hell, you can even add new disks if you fill up the
   entire disk!



   never used Vinum.  seen it mentioned a lot, but never read up on it
   because i wasn't sure what it was ... guess it's time to do some
   reading, eh?
   thanks,
   -b--

References

   1. mailto:geektron@comradeburnout.com

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On Wed, 4 Aug 2004 freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org wrote:
 > Message: 11
 > From: Srot BULL <pwd8jmr22w@me.point.ne.jp>

 > > Giorgos Keramidas wrote: 
 > > Show us the full ruleset.  Otherwise we're just guessing...
 > > 
 > My apologies, below is my complete ruleset:

[..]

 > #* Deny ident *#
 > $CMD 00315 deny tcp from any to any in via $IFN

I think perhaps you meant:

  $CMD 00315 deny tcp from any to any 113 in via $IFN

as yours denied all remaining TCP, making some rules below irrelevant,
including allows for www, ssh etc if you ever wanted to enable these.

You'd also likely do better using reset rather than deny - assuming this
rule really was meant to block ident - to avoid timeout delays on mail. 

 > #* Deny all Netbios service. 137=name, 138=datagram, 139=session *#
 > #* Netbios is MS/Windows sharing services. *#
 > #* Block MS/Windows hosts2 name server requests 81 *#
 > $CMD 00320 deny tcp from any to any 137 in via $IFN
 > $CMD 00321 deny tcp from any to any 138 in via $IFN
 > $CMD 00322 deny tcp from any to any 139 in via $IFN
 > $CMD 00323 deny tcp from any to any 81 in via $IFN

None of these or any other tcp .. in via $IFN rules below are ever seen.

[..]
 > #* Deny ACK packets that did not match the dynamic rule table *#
 > $CMD 00332 deny tcp from any to any established in via $IFN

That rule is also not seen ..

[..]
 > #* Reject & Log all incoming connections from the outside *#
 > $CMD 00499 deny log all from any to any in via $IFN

.. nor that one, for TCP packets ..

 > My basis for my rulesets are taken from:
 > http://freebsd.a1poweruser.com:6088/FBSD_firewall/

Cheers, Ian

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Hello,

where can I find more informations on the bento.freebsd.org
cluster? I'm esp. interested in stats, like build times etc.
w.r.t. hardware.

Sorry if this is the wrong list.

Thanks,
-cpghost.

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On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 11:30:43 -0400, Mike Galvez
<hoosyerdaddy@virginia.edu> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 10:48:58AM -0400, Danny wrote:
> > Has anyone had success running FreeBSD on an IBM x360 type server?
> >
> > x4 2Ghz Xeon, 2MB L3
> > 2GB PC1600 DDR
> > IBM ServerRAID 4Mx Ultra160 SCSI Controller
> > IBM EXP300 Storage Expansion Unit
> > Quantum SDLT 220 Tape Drive
> 
> At home I have an old PC server 325 with ServerRAID and EXP10 running
> 5.2.1 Release. Older equipment, but it installed without any trouble.
> 
> 
> >
> > I will go into more detail with the specs, but I was wondering if
> > anyone has had success with any xSeries IBM servers with FreeBSD
> > installed?

Thanks for the info Mike. Anyone else?

..D

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"Vahric MUHTARYAN" <vahric@doruk.net.tr> writes:

> Hi Everybody , 
>  
>             I can leave sendmail from base system . First I updated src tree
> then I copyed /etc/default/make.conf under  /etc directory and remove the "
> #  " in front of the NO_SENDMAIL = true , then I maked 
>  make buildworld
>  make buildkernel KERNCONF=KERNELNAME
>  make installkernel KERNCONF=KERNELNAME
>  make installworld
>  mergemaster -cv ( I installed all changed files with using " i "  )
>  reboot

Okay, so what you did was rebuild all of your system except for
sendmail.  The sendmail that was already in the system is still
there.  

> I did not modify rc.conf for seeing what will be happend if I dont remove '
> # ' in front of sendmail , after reboot I saw that FreeBSD run SENDMAIL
> again and when I wrote whereis sendmail on the command prompt I saw like
> this ... 
> gecetrn# whereis sendmail
> sendmail: /usr/sbin/sendmail /usr/share/man/man8/sendmail.8.gz
> /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail /usr/src/contrib/sendmail
> /usr/ports/mail/sendmail
>  
>             Did  make a mistake ?! How can I remove sendmail from basesystem
> ?! 

Normally, you don't remove sendmail from the system.  Just configure
rc.conf to *not* start sendmail, and you will be fine.  
See "man rc.sendmail".

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I'm in the process of moving users from a 4.2 machine to an updated
setup using 5.2.1. There appears to have been some changes in the
password format (as in the users are not able to log in to the test
system), and the main reference I find is this entry in
/usr/src/UPDATING:

20000928:
        There was a change in the passwd format.  Need more information.

Any pointers appreciated.

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Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote:
> I'm in the process of moving users from a 4.2 machine to an updated
> setup using 5.2.1. There appears to have been some changes in the
> password format (as in the users are not able to log in to the test
> system), and the main reference I find is this entry in
> /usr/src/UPDATING:
> 
> 20000928:
>         There was a change in the passwd format.  Need more information.
> 
> Any pointers appreciated.
> 
Perhaps your best and safest way to upgrade would be to upgrade from 4.2 
to 4.10, then from 4.10 to 5.2.1 - keeping in mind that 5.2.1 is still 
very much experimental.

Perhaps an upgrade from 4.2 - 4.10 and waiting until 5.3-REL comes out 
might be a better suggestion?

-- 
Best regards,
Chris

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On Aug 4, 2004, at 1:44 PM, Chris Shenton wrote:

> Tim Aslat <tim@spyderweb.com.au> writes:
>
>> Try one of the multitude of rsync based scripts, you can even get some
>> very good incremental backups happening,
>
> I have been thinking about this for my own use.  One problem with
> basic rsync is that if (say) I trash a critical file and don't notice
> it for a couple days, the (nightly) rsync will have overwritten the
> good version with the trashed version.

Yes.

> So I've been thinking of having maybe 5 different copies at the
> destination and rsyncing to a different one each night so I have 5
> different "backups" to go to -- just like in the days of
> tape. Something conceptually like:

<cut>

I use a similar setup.

Actually what I have for two servers is a scheme where you have system 
A and system B.  System A has a directory tree to back up.

System B pulls that directory daily from A using rsync over SSH.  It 
will create a "synced image" of the tree to a local directory.

Next system B decides if it is a regular workday or a friday, then if 
it's a workday it saves a gzip'ed tarball of the snapshot to a "daily" 
archive directory.  If it is a friday, it saves the snapshot to a "long 
term" archive directory.  It then runs a check for files that are 
greater than 7 or 8 days old in their creation time in the daily 
archive and deletes them, or if it's the long term archive run it'll 
check for files older than about three months and delete them.  The 
filenames are composed of the dates embedded in the filenames.

That way you have a week-long backup as well as a weekly backup going 
back several months.

> Also, the original poster mentioned the source was windoze.  If you
> google "rsync windows" you'll find help on installing ssh and rsync on
> a Windoze box so maybe you don't need UNIX at your client's firm.

Try cygwin, running a ssh server as a service on 2000/xp.  That should 
be all you'd need on the windows side listening as the server process.

Or a batch file could kick it off I supposed, or at job...

Depends really on how the OP wants to set it up...if they map network 
drives already, it would just be a case of copying 
J:\etc......otherwise fun scripts to mount shares on remote servers.  
Or run the backups from a central server.  And they'd also have to 
decide if they're going to push or pull the backup...

Have fun!
-Bart

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> So I've been thinking of having maybe 5 different copies at the
> destination and rsyncing to a different one each night so I have 5
> different "backups" to go to -- just like in the days of
> tape. Something conceptually like:
>
>   rsync -avR --delete / remote:/BACKUP/`expr $dayofyear % 5`/
>
> Yeah, you need to store 5x copies of your client's data, but disk is
> cheap.

Run rsnapshot at the remote destination on the backup directory. You get
full daily versions at the cost of only another incremental backup. Check
out http://www.rsnapshot.org/

We use this setup to backup our servers and it works perfect. Dave.



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Check out rdiff-backup:

	http://rdiff-backup.stanford.edu

It not only generates a mirror copy of the current system, but also 
generates diff files that can be applied to the mirror to do a 
point-in-time restore.

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I'd like to make a custom live CD-2 of a -STABLE release (I want to
include the asr-tools on it, so that I can tweak my raid which is
normally running 5.2.1)

I've been doing this from /usr/src/release

  sudo make release CHROOTDIR=/opus/release CVSROOT=/home/ncvs BUILDNAME=GH NODOC=

It runs for a while and finally dies.  The last few things it says are:

    touch release.1
    cd /usr/src/release/../etc && make distrib-dirs DESTDIR=/R/stage/trees/base
    mtree -eU  -f /usr/src/etc/mtree/BSD.root.dist -p /R/stage/trees/base/
    mtree: /R/stage/trees/base/: No such file or directory
    *** Error code 1
    
    Stop in /usr/src/etc.
    *** Error code 1
    
    Stop in /usr/src/release.
    *** Error code 1
    
    Stop in /usr/src/release.

I've added the following symlink (thinking it was a missing factoid):

  (ghost)[1:32pm]release>>ls -l /R
  lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  15 Aug  4 07:31 /R -> /opus/release/R

but still get the same result.

Is this supposed to work?  Am I missing something obvious?

g.

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Hi there
cant you just use
#include "/the/libs/are/here"

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Just a thought, but do you actually need an up-to-date 
ports collection. If you are trying things out, and frequently 
reinstalling you may be better-off with the one on the disk.

One of the big pitfalls in FreeBSD (and Gentoo Linux) is 
that new users install something like gnome, from the 
disk packages, and then sync-up their ports and bring in 
a new version. They are then left with a major rebuild
(which may require a special recipe or script), or face
build problems with new ports.

Even worse, there can be problems with current ports 
and old world versions. Ports started breaking on 5.1 
almost immediately after 5.2 was released.

On Wednesday 04 August 2004 04:16, Peter Ryan wrote:
> I am very new, and have been reinstalling
> FreeBSD many times to clean up whatever
> mess i make and start again.
>
> I recently used cvsup to update my
> ports collection for the 4.10_RELEASE.
>
> Now, when I reinstall, it takes much longer
> because i bring in the updated ports collection
> rather than the ports collection on the
> install CD (which i burnt from an ISO file)
>
> Is there some way to burn a cd (for me that
> means under winXP) containing the latest
> ports collection so that I dont have to
> download it each time.
>
> Or is there a better way of installing
> with the latest ports collection.
>
> Are the ISO images updated with a new
> ports collection very frequently ?
>
> Thanks for any pointers
> Peter
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On Tue, Jul 27, 2004 at 01:29:51PM +0200, Philipp Koock wrote:
> Now, exim recevies the mail, passes it to procmail via some kind of pipe=
=20
> and procmail uses cyrdeliver to put mails into the corredsponding cyrus=
=20
> imap mail folders ...
>=20
> now is there a way to put sieve between procmail and cyrus ?
> like make sieve filter all messages that procmail didn't ?
>=20
> removing the target mailbox from the cyrdeliver command doesn't help. How=
=20
> do i pass mail to cyrus so that is still applys the sieve rules ?

sieve is integrated into cyrus. no need to change your
procmail rules. deliver(8) will apply the corresponding sieve
scripts and finally store the message in the right mailbox.

sieve scripts are installed via installsieve(1).

for more information see http://www.cyrusoft.com/sieve/

and please stop reposting the same question!

hth,
toni=20
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R. W. wrote:

>Just a thought, but do you actually need an up-to-date 
>ports collection. If you are trying things out, and frequently 
>reinstalling you may be better-off with the one on the disk.
>
>One of the big pitfalls in FreeBSD (and Gentoo Linux) is 
>that new users install something like gnome, from the 
>disk packages, and then sync-up their ports and bring in 
>a new version. They are then left with a major rebuild
>(which may require a special recipe or script), or face
>build problems with new ports.
>  
>
this is one of the reasons i tend to install from FTP (and boot disks), 
and not from the CD. 



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Hi All,

when installing the latest Transcode port the installation ends with
the following row, please let me know if you want more of the output.
I installed it using
> make WITH_AVIFILE=yes WITH_DIVX5=yes install

My system is a 5.1 with regular cvsup's done.

Thanks in advance.


decode_dv.c: In function `decode_dv':
decode_dv.c:184: `frame_size_625_50' undeclared (first use in this
function)
decode_dv.c:184: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
decode_dv.c:184: for each function it appears in.)
decode_dv.c:216: `frame_size_525_60' undeclared (first use in this
function)
decode_dv.c:256: warning: passing arg 5 of `dv_decode_full_frame' from
incompatible pointer type
decode_dv.c:273: warning: passing arg 5 of `dv_decode_full_frame' from
incompatible pointer type
decode_dv.c:298: warning: passing arg 5 of `dv_decode_full_frame' from
incompatible pointer type
decode_dv.c:306: warning: passing arg 5 of `dv_decode_full_frame' from
incompatible pointer type
decode_dv.c: In function `probe_dv':
decode_dv.c:413: `frame_size_625_50' undeclared (first use in this
function)
decode_dv.c:420: `frame_size_525_60' undeclared (first use in this
function)
gmake[3]: *** [decode_dv.o] Error 1
gmake[3]: Leaving directory
`/usr/ports/multimedia/transcode/work/transcode-0.6.12/import'
gmake[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
gmake[2]: Leaving directory
`/usr/ports/multimedia/transcode/work/transcode-0.6.12/import'
gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
gmake[1]: Leaving directory
`/usr/ports/multimedia/transcode/work/transcode-0.6.12'
gmake: *** [all] Error 2
*** Error code 2

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> > did I miss something?
>
> Yes.  Scripts can't utilize setuid/setgid.
>
> You can rewrite the script in perl and use the setuid perl interpreter
> (which is basically a workaround for this) or install sudo and give the
> script the ability to call sudo before executing commands that require
> elevated priviledges.


or even better write this in C, or at least do wrapper in C that will make
sure no "tricks" are in environment variables etc. it's quite difficult to
write setuid scripts without security holes
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> I have another suggestion. I've seen lots of Mac emulators in the ports.
> Why not use one of these, and run the original program?
> AFAIK Mac emulation is not even half as painful as Winblows emulation.
> 
> Daniela

Not a bad idea. I've looked into Basilisk before, but it requires Mac 
ROM dumps, which I don't have. I also no longer own a Macintosh 
computer, so I don't think I could even run a Mac emulator legally. vMac 
and friends are too limited to be useful -- they only handle Mac 
Classics and Mac OS previous to OS 8 -- and they also require Mac ROMs. 
Which, again, I don't have. :-(

--Damon

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> I know this is a FreeBSD list

I know. But you folks have been such a great resource in general ... and 
I hoped that others on the list might find the topic interesting/useful. 
I'll make this my last post to the list on this subject.

> but there is a really excellent program
> for learning chess for the PC (and Mac):  "Learn How to Play Chess
> with Fritz and Chesster".  For ages 8 and up. It is a really searious
> learning program, which has a huge book, starts with moves, then
> endgames, then ...

That'd be grand! If it'll work under WINE, since I categorically will 
not use Windows and no longer own a Mac of any kind. Do you or anyone 
else know if it's compatible with WINE?

--Damon

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[Peter N. M. Hansteen, 2004-08-04]
>  I'm in the process of moving users from a 4.2 machine to an updated
>  setup using 5.2.1. There appears to have been some changes in the
>  password format (as in the users are not able to log in to the test
>  system), and the main reference I find is this entry in
>  /usr/src/UPDATING:


I'm not sure what the change involves (I think they're both version 7),
but the current format is described in passwd(5).

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peter@bgnett.no (Peter N. M. Hansteen) writes:

> I'm in the process of moving users from a 4.2 machine to an updated
> setup using 5.2.1. There appears to have been some changes in the
> password format (as in the users are not able to log in to the test
> system), and the main reference I find is this entry in
> /usr/src/UPDATING:
> 
> 20000928:
>         There was a change in the passwd format.  Need more information.
> 
> Any pointers appreciated.

I've moved password entries from 4.x to 5.x with no problem.

Did you remember to rebuild the database?

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Hello :

Is anyone running FreeBSD-STABLE in an intel based Sun Hardware (Sun Fire
V65x) ? I need running it in a production environment and I prefer FreeBSD rather
than RedHat Enterprise Linux or Solaris X86 (they are the recommended OS).

Regards

Richard Cotrina

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On 2004-08-04 08:15, DK <asdzxc111@yahoo.com> wrote:
> --- Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr> wrote:
> > The default set of firewall packet inspection rules that ipfw loads will
> > block *EVERYTHING* so you might want to do a bit of research on the
> > available rulesets by reading about rc.firewall, rc.conf and/or browse the
> > contents of the /etc/defaults/rc.conf file:
>
> If I understand it correctly after reading the handbook, if I add
> 'firewall_type=open' in my '/etc/rc.conf' file, will it make all
> incoming/outgoing ports open so I can connect to the net with sysinstall to
> download packages ???

Yes, that's mostly true.

Note that I very rarely use the "open" firewall type or others from
rc.firewall.  This is because I usually write my own firewall rulesets.
The commands of rc.firewall though are hopefully easy to understand.
Open the script with your favorite editor in read-only mode (don't make
any changes unless you're very sure you know what you're doing).  Read
the sets of rules it loads and see for yourself which one you prefer ;-)

The following manpages also contain useful stuff about firewall setup in
your FreeBSD installation:

	% man 7 firewall
	% man 7 security

> Legend.  Got this script working now :))
> ...Except...All modules seem to install okay Except for "mod_perl".

Some problem with the bundle of installations no doubt :-)

> I get the error:
> -----------------------
> [-] 16) -Mod Perl 1.29
>
> Choice [?] 16
> LWP::UserAgent not installed!
> HTML::HeadParser not installed!
> Type "perl -MCPAN -e shell" to start the perl CPAN
> shell, then "install LWP::UserAgent" to install the LWP::UserAgent module!
> Substitute LWP::UserAgent for any perl module.
> ------------------------------

The installation depends on a Perl module called LWP.  The error message
tries to be helpful too.  Read it carefully:

	Type "perl -MCPAN -e shell" to start the perl CPAN
	shell, then "install LWP::UserAgent" to install the LWP::UserAgent module!

If you do as it says, the LWP::UserAgent module will be installed and
then the installation will probably succeed.  I'm deliberately using
"probably" because this is a package-lookalike that is not an official
part of FreeBSD so I don't know why, when or how it could fail without
trying it out first.

> I don't understand what I am supposed to "substitute" (above) ???

CPAN is an acronym equivalent to "Comprehensive Perl Archive Network".
The CPAN collection of Perl modules is a vast library of Perl code that
you can install as add-on modules over your existing Perl installation.

If you want to install many modules, a single CPAN shell invocation of
Perl can do it, using "install MODULE_NAME".  You'll have to substitute
MODULE_NAME with the name of the module you want to install.  Does the
word "substitute" sound a bit more clear now?

> 1) For automount, I edited /etc/fstab.
> It was easier & more logical than the editing amd(/etc/amd.conf & /etc/amd.map)
> Problem: There has to be a CD in the CD drive & a floppy in the floppy drive
> otherwise the drives don't automount & the bootup faulters !!

It obviously tries to mount a CD-ROM disk at boot time because you
enabled the "mount at boot time" flag in fstab.

> - This is annoying. Is there a way around this so I can automount at
> bootup without a disk being in the drive ???

Not really.  You asked your system to mount the CD-ROM at boot time and
it did.  I recall someone posting excellent references for the automount
daemon some time ago.  I even went ahead and read them an afternoon that
I was feeling bored.  Please, go back to the previous posts of these
threads and read the help posted about amd.

> 2) I ran xf86config & generated a new config file. It broke X [...]
> -------------------------
> My Monitor Specs(If this helps):
> viewsonic  pf775
> [snip mode - frequency table]
> Frequency f h: 30~97kHz; f v: 50~180Hz
> ---------------------------

Yes it does help.  You'd also have to find out what Video Adapter you
have and instruct xf86cfg to generate an XF86Config file using the
proper driver for your video adapter.

> 3) I tried to intstall the login client for my broadband connection so
> I can use sysinstall to download & install packages.  The program
> fails on make & make install!

What login client?  The only port that I see whose name begins with
"login" is x11/login.app and that's definitely nothing related to
broadband connections.

> Screen Output
> -------------------
> 127# make install
> Makefile error: there is no COMMENT variable defined
> for this port. Please, rectify this.
> *** Error code 1
> Stop in /usr/ports/distfiles/login.
> -------------------

Are you honestly still trying to run "make" in /usr/ports/distfiles
after I have asked you so many times to go and read the Handbook chapter
about "Ports and Packages"?

This is not going to work.

> 4) I am taking your advice & am trying to connect to the net with sysinstall so
> I can download packages/ports & hopefully find an easier way to install apps.

You haven't provided any details about the type of connection you have
(just a "my broadband connection" short description which doesn't amount
to much), so I can't help you there.  You have also displayed an
unbelievable reluctance to read any sort of documentation, so I don't
hope for much even if I point you to the Handbook, to some web page or
anything else.

Once more though, since you have mentioned "broadband", here's a link
from the Handbook; just in case you find it useful:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/pppoe.html

> Q: Do I need to get my broadband login client working to connect to the net OR
> can I login to my ISP from a terminal within BSD ???

Again I ask... What login client?

> Q: Do I need to login to my broadband ISP via my login client to enable
> "sysinstall" to be able to download packages etc ... ???

No, you don't need any "login client" or similar.  You just need to set
things up so that a network connection works.  Sysinstall is also not
required to download packages, once you set your connection up.  But you
would already know that *IF* you had read the relevant Handbook chapter:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports.html

> Q: Like tracert on W2000, is their a command I can use in BSD to see when I am
> connected to the net ???

The "tracert" program is called "tracert" in Windows because some
versions of that operating system family are limited in the number of
characters that can use in filenames.  This is why they shortened
"traceroute" to "tracert" to fit in less than 8 characters.

On BSD you can use "traceroute" to do the same thing and lot more.

- Giorgos

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dee Gaans [mailto:deegaans@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 4:54 PM
> To: Eric Crist
> Subject: RE: Freebsd Test Brower
>
>
> Thanks for the response..  I guess I confused you with
> a different Erick.. Sorry about that..
>
> So do you by any chance know how I can identify the
> lynx version that supports https?
>
> Dee

Well, typing the following command, # ls /usr/local/ports/www/ | grep
lynx, produces these results:

lynx
lynx-current
lynx-ssl

I would guess that lynx-ssl was the one that supports https (it actually
does).

HTH

Eric


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Okay, I gave up on installing the transcode port, and used the pkg_add
-r transcode instead. Worked excellent. (I have never installade a
package before).

However, the package seems to not include support for DV files
(camcorder files). Can I send args like to make command when
installing packages?

//J



-------------------
 | Hi All,
 | 
 | when installing the latest Transcode port the installation ends
with
 | the following row, please let me know if you want more of the
output.
 | I installed it using
 | > make WITH_AVIFILE=yes WITH_DIVX5=yes install
 | 
 | My system is a 5.1 with regular cvsup's done.
 | 
 | Thanks in advance.
 | 
 | 
 | decode_dv.c: In function `decode_dv':
 | decode_dv.c:184: `frame_size_625_50' undeclared (first use in this
 | function)
 | decode_dv.c:184: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
 | decode_dv.c:184: for each function it appears in.)
 | decode_dv.c:216: `frame_size_525_60' undeclared (first use in this
 | function)
 | decode_dv.c:256: warning: passing arg 5 of `dv_decode_full_frame'
from
 | incompatible pointer type
 | decode_dv.c:273: warning: passing arg 5 of `dv_decode_full_frame'
from
 | incompatible pointer type
 | decode_dv.c:298: warning: passing arg 5 of `dv_decode_full_frame'
from
 | incompatible pointer type
 | decode_dv.c:306: warning: passing arg 5 of `dv_decode_full_frame'
from
 | incompatible pointer type
 | decode_dv.c: In function `probe_dv':
 | decode_dv.c:413: `frame_size_625_50' undeclared (first use in this
 | function)
 | decode_dv.c:420: `frame_size_525_60' undeclared (first use in this
 | function)
 | gmake[3]: *** [decode_dv.o] Error 1
 | gmake[3]: Leaving directory
 | `/usr/ports/multimedia/transcode/work/transcode-0.6.12/import'
 | gmake[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
 | gmake[2]: Leaving directory
 | `/usr/ports/multimedia/transcode/work/transcode-0.6.12/import'
 | gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
 | gmake[1]: Leaving directory
 | `/usr/ports/multimedia/transcode/work/transcode-0.6.12'
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Dear: Sir or Madem.

I Have LTWinmodem and a  U.S.Robotics 5660A  modem.
Can you please tell me if this modems will work under FreeDSB.
Or where can find drivers to make them work under FreeDSB.

Thank you for your help.
A. H. BEY.

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eagleimex wrote:

> Dear: Sir or Madem.
>
> I Have LTWinmodem and a  U.S.Robotics 5660A  modem.
> Can you please tell me if this modems will work under FreeDSB.
> Or where can find drivers to make them work under FreeDSB.
>
> Thank you for your help.
> A. H. BEY.


Hello.  Actually it's "sirs *and* mesdames", as you've
contacted the freebsd-questions list...

The port (3rd party software) described below seems
likely to help in the first instance:

    Port:   ltmdm-1.4_7
    Path:   /usr/ports/comms/ltmdm
    Info:   Driver for the Lucent LT Winmodem chipset
    Maint:  darius@dons.net.au
    B-deps:
    R-deps:

I'm not familiar with the USR modem you've
listed.  Internal or external?

KDK

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On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 01:51:50PM -0600, HYVERNAT Philippe wrote:
> 
> I  run on freebsd 4.10 and i want to install Java, but cos to the
> licence restriction i must download it and place into
> /usr/ports//distfiles
> 
> I move it into this directory, but when i compile again, the make file
> doesn't find it in /usr/ports/distfiles it's the same spelling.

The JDK14 port actually requires more than one file to be moved into the
distfiles directory.  It will prompt you for them one at a time.  The
spelling looks very similar but is in fact different.  Verify that the
port is not actually asking you for a different file.

-- 
Danny MacMillan

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On 2004-08-04 01:08, Lam Tuck Wai <tuckwai@evoluxion.com.sg> wrote:
> I am currently having a huge problem. My KDM refuse to start, so now I
> cannot get into my machine.
> [...]
> My question is how do I stop the KDM from loading during boot up?
> [...]
> I tried booting to single user but I cannot "su". So without root
> access I cannot change anything.

Booting into single-user mode doesn't require a "su".  You are probably
not booting into single-user mode.

Interrupt the boot loader by pressing SPACE at the prompt that says:

    Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt

Then enter single-user mode by:

    boot -s

When the single-user mode shell starts, check your filesystems and mount
them as read-write:

    # adjkerntz -i
    # swapon -a
    # fsck -p
    # mount -u /
    # mount -a

Try to locate the file that fires up kdm (it's probably /etc/ttys, but I
don't use KDE so I might be wrong about this).  Disable kdm and exit the
single-user mode shell.

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On Tuesday 03 August 2004 05:34 pm, Jonathan wrote:
> Hello, I run FreeBSD 5-2.1 on a serv4er box used for my company
> (StreamForce Hosting Solutions). I was wondering if there is an
> application i can install or method of limiting per user bandwidth by
> like a certain group or class. If not is there a way to limit bandwidth
> for all non super user accounts.

Check out pf (packet filter)

http://pf4freebsd.love2party.net/

and 

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/security/pf/pkg-descr

pf includes ALTQ for bandwidth control.

Jay

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Hi I am sorry to ask this, but yesterday I was looking to see if there 
is anyway to read the output of dmesg and automatically convert it to a 
readable format to be used to compile the new kernel. In that way it 
will be more specified based on that hardware and making sure I am not 
removing stuff I need
Someone asnwered me back that it has been already dissuces and I swear 
that I can't find the link on mailing list. Did all kind of keyword 
search and nothing has shown up. May I ask the person who replied back 
to give more link plaese? Or if someone has it
I used google and found out that netbsd has such a thing which does 
cataclysm what I want, adjustkernel, but isthere such a thing for freebsd?

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No, because the libs have include statements in them. For example, in my source 
code I might write:

   #include "/usr/X11R6/include/GL/glut.h"

But this fails because glut.h has the following statements in it:

   #include <gl.h>
   #inlcude <glu.h>

For it to work, I would have to ammend it to say:

   #include "gl.h"
   #inlcude "glu.h"

But at the point where I am rewriting bits of the standard GL libraries, it's 
time to take a different approach.

_jason

Jorge Mario G. wrote:
> Hi there
> cant you just use
> #include "/the/libs/are/here"
> 
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Hi..
I have managed to solve my problem.
My PC is working now.
Many thanks to:
Bill Moran
Jerry McAllister
Giorgos Keramidas

Tuck Wai

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Moran [mailto:wmoran@potentialtech.com] 
Sent: 04 August 2004 01:36
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"Lam Tuck Wai" <tuckwai@evoluxion.com.sg> wrote:
> 
> I am currently having a huge problem. My KDM refuse to start, so now I
> cannot get into my machine.
> 
> Every time it reboots it will goes in a cycle of spewing errors. It was
fine
> a few hours ago until I change the monitor config.
> 
> My question is how do I stop the KDM from loading during boot up? So at
> least I can login as root and replace the new XF86config file.
> 
> I tried booting to single user but I cannot "su". So without root access I
> cannot change anything.

You do not need to su.  In single-user mode, you are root.

Once you get a shell prompt in single-user mode, do:
fsck
mount -a

You should then be able to edit your config file, or change /etc/ttys
to stop xdm from starting.

HTH

-- 
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Hi!

My stuff is also in /usr/X11R6/include/GL and I use to following line to=20
compile:

gcc -I /usr/X11R6/include/ -L /usr/X11R6/lib -lglut -lGLU -lGL -lXmu -lXext=
=20
=2DlX11 -lm file.c

Works for all the code examples given on www.opengl.org.

Hope that helps

Ben

On Thursday 05 August 2004 00:41, you wrote:
> No, because the libs have include statements in them. For example, in my
> source code I might write:
>
>    #include "/usr/X11R6/include/GL/glut.h"
>
> But this fails because glut.h has the following statements in it:
>
>    #include <gl.h>
>    #inlcude <glu.h>
>
> For it to work, I would have to ammend it to say:
>
>    #include "gl.h"
>    #inlcude "glu.h"
>
> But at the point where I am rewriting bits of the standard GL libraries,
> it's time to take a different approach.
>
> _jason
>
> Jorge Mario G. wrote:
> > Hi there
> > cant you just use
> > #include "/the/libs/are/here"
> >
> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
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Hi All,
    I'm trying to setup vmware3 on -Current with raw devices. However, I 
can't seem to correctly get it to use my hard disk as a raw device. Has 
anyone else tried and got this working?

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Hello, I am sort of a newbie to IPFW for FreeBSD-5.2.1. I have never 
used it and need some help with the configuration. Ok here goes if 
anyone can help.

I compiled IPFIREWALL into the kernel with the options to DEFAULT TO 
ACCEPT ALL and the VERBOSE=50 option. With the support for IPFW in the 
kernel I then added firewall_enable=off to the rc.conf (with some other 
options that are commented out at the moment). The reason for having the 
firewall off right now is because i was told that rc.firewall in /etc 
needed to be configured for my network card (or IP addresses) before it 
will be able to work. My box is located at a datacebter and my box is 
allocated with about 90 IP addresses (and also the main server IP which 
was given to me when i first purchased the line). I would like to know 
how to configure /etc/rc.firewall to support my MAIN ip and also how to 
make sure the other IPS added to my box are recognized and protected by 
the firewall.
Also I noticed in rc.firewall there are different modes to put the 
firewall in like simple mode, client mode, etc. (different firewall 
powers i guess). It would be greatly appreciated if someone can show me 
how to configure ipfw. I could not thank anyone more for the future help 
i might recieve on this issue.

If you guys need a copy of rc.conf or rc.firewall in order to help just 
email me and i will provide an attachment.

Thamks in advance

Regards,
Jonathan

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the libdv api has changed, I submitted a patch here.
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/69406
you can use that to compile from source until (and if) it is committed
Michael


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> Okay, I gave up on installing the transcode port, and used the pkg_add
> -r transcode instead. Worked excellent. (I have never installade a
> package before).
>
> However, the package seems to not include support for DV files
> (camcorder files). Can I send args like to make command when
> installing packages?

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Am not so much as moving the vinum drives so much as replacing the 
system drive FreeBSD 5.2.1 was installed upon. The same system which 
created my striped vinum volume.

System drive was a parallel ATA 40G. Two SATA 160G drives were used to 
create a striped vinum volume with the simple vinum command "stripe -v 
/dev/ad4s1d /dev/ad6s1d". This worked great for a week before I started 
moving HD's.

Now for fun I have removed the 40G drive and replaced it with a 120G 
and reinstalled FreeBSD 5.2.1 scratch from CD without touching the 160G 
drives. Would like to get my vinum'ed filesystem back online. Was at 
least half under the impression vinum stored everything important in 
the drive labels and once vinum started all would magically be working 
again. Vinum is not creating the device to mount my fs with.

I'm lost in the documentation and archives as to how to get them back 
together as a volume without losing data. Part of the idea here it to 
learn when I'm not under the gun. I still have the original 40G drive 
untouched.

# vinum list
2 drives:
D vinumdrive1  State: up  /dev/ad6s1d     A: 156041/156041 MB (100%)
D vinumdrive0  State: up  /dev/ad4s1d     A: 156041/156041 MB (100%)

0 volumes:
0 plexes:
0 subdisks:
#

So what next?

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I just set up a new box using FreeBSD-5.2 and install cvsup. Now when I 
run cvsup I get this -

chip3# cvsup ports-supfile
Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
Xlib: No protocol specified

Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
Xlib: No protocol specified

Lost the connection to the X server

I have this in my /etc/hosts file (probably more than necessary, but I 
was just trying to cover all my bases) -
#
::1                     localhost localhost.wiegand.org
127.0.0.1               localhost localhost.wiegand.org
192.168.0.7             chip3.wiegand.org
127.0.0.1               chip3   chip3.wiegand.org
10.0.0.1                chip3   chip3.wiegand.org
#

What have I screwed up and how do I fix it?
thanks,
Chip

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There are probably dangerous consequences to doing something like this 
improperly; however, there is a project out there called PacketBL:

http://wiki.duskglow.com/index.php/Packetbl

It's for Linux only, unfortunately -- however I like the idea.   It 
interfaces with the packet filtering system and selectively blocks SMTP 
(port 25, configurable) traffic based upon RBLs etc.  

I wonder if there is a similar way to accomplish this with FreeBSD/ipfw...




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On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 10:40:10PM -0500, David Kelly wrote:
> Am not so much as moving the vinum drives so much as replacing the=20
> system drive FreeBSD 5.2.1 was installed upon. The same system which=20
> created my striped vinum volume.
>=20
> System drive was a parallel ATA 40G. Two SATA 160G drives were used to=20
> create a striped vinum volume with the simple vinum command "stripe -v=20
> /dev/ad4s1d /dev/ad6s1d". This worked great for a week before I started=
=20
> moving HD's.
>=20
> Now for fun I have removed the 40G drive and replaced it with a 120G=20
> and reinstalled FreeBSD 5.2.1 scratch from CD without touching the 160G=
=20
> drives. Would like to get my vinum'ed filesystem back online. Was at=20
> least half under the impression vinum stored everything important in=20
> the drive labels and once vinum started all would magically be working=20
> again. Vinum is not creating the device to mount my fs with.
>=20
> I'm lost in the documentation and archives as to how to get them back=20
> together as a volume without losing data. Part of the idea here it to=20
> learn when I'm not under the gun. I still have the original 40G drive=20
> untouched.
>=20
> # vinum list
> 2 drives:
> D vinumdrive1  State: up  /dev/ad6s1d     A: 156041/156041 MB (100%)
> D vinumdrive0  State: up  /dev/ad4s1d     A: 156041/156041 MB (100%)
>=20
> 0 volumes:
> 0 plexes:
> 0 subdisks:
> #

How early in the boot is this? Have you done 'vinum start' yet?
If that doesn't work, does 'vinum read vinumdrive0 vinumdrive1' work?

Other simple things to check: if you've booted single-user, be sure to remo=
unt
the root filesystem read-write by doing

mount -o rw /

before vinum can create devices.  You can force vinum to recreate the device
nodes by doing

vinum makedev

If all that doesn't work I'm also at a loss as to what it can be.

HTH,

--Stijn

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Hi,
	I would like my freebsd system to ignore the IP TOS value (whatever it is set 
to). Or is there any way to set the TOS value to some preferred value??


thanks
bikrant

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Peter,

You can also reinstall the ports tree from the iso
image.

There's an install script on the cd that you can run
if needed to reinstall the release version of the
ports tree.

Updating should be done through cvsup if possible.

Mark

--- Olaf Hoyer <ohoyer@ohoyer.de> wrote:

> On Wed, 4 Aug 2004, Peter Ryan wrote:
> 
> > I am very new, and have been reinstalling
> > FreeBSD many times to clean up whatever
> > mess i make and start again.
> >
> > I recently used cvsup to update my
> > ports collection for the 4.10_RELEASE.
> >
> > Now, when I reinstall, it takes much longer
> > because i bring in the updated ports collection
> > rather than the ports collection on the
> > install CD (which i burnt from an ISO file)
> >
> 
> The whole portscollection is also available via ftp:
> 
> on ftp2.de.freebsd.org:
> 
> ftp> pwd
> 257 "/pub/FreeBSD/ports/ports" is current directory.
> ftp> ls
> 227 Entering Passive Mode (134,76,11,100,141,111)
> 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls.
> total 25760
> drwxr-xr-x    2 emoenke  ftp          4096 Aug  3
> 01:53 .
> drwxr-xr-x   11 emoenke  ftp          4096 Jul 29 
> 2003 ..
> -rw-r--r--    1 emoenke  ftp          1006 Jun 19
> 01:49 README.TXT
> -rw-r--r--    1 emoenke  ftp      26332175 Aug  3
> 01:26 ports.tar.gz
> 226 Transfer complete.
> 
> 
> 
> simply download the tar.gz, and extract it to
> /usr/ports
> 
> 
> 
> On each ISO of a release, like the 4.10R-CD #1, they
> take a snapshot of
> the ports tree when the make the assumption that it
> ist quite
> consistent. So when you download in say, 3 months a
> 4.10 ISO, the ports
> tree therein will be more than 3 months old.
> 
> In that case, use whether cvsup or method above to
> get a recent ports
> tree.
> 
> HTH
> Olaf
> 
> 
> -- 
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Dear list
 
Is there an intelligent way of choosing the stripe size of a RAID 5
array?
 
TIA
 
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Hi,

On Thu, Aug 05, 2004 at 03:02:25PM +0800, H. Sandring wrote:
> Is there an intelligent way of choosing the stripe size of a RAID 5
> array?

=46rom man vinum:

"For optimum performance, stripes should be at least 128 kB in size: anythi=
ng
smaller will result in a significant increase in I/O activ- ity due to mapp=
ing
of individual requests over multiple disks.  The performance improvement due
to the increased number of concurrent transfers caused by this mapping will
not make up for the performance drop due to the increase in latency.  A good
guideline for stripe size is between 256 kB and 512 kB.  Avoid powers of 2,
however: they tend to cause all superblocks to be placed on the first subdi=
sk."

I expect this to be true for non-vinum RAID-5 volumes as well.

HTH,

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Lowell Gilbert <freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org> writes:

> I've moved password entries from 4.x to 5.x with no problem.
> 
> Did you remember to rebuild the database?

er, it seems that was the problem, exactly. Thanks!

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On Wed, 4 Aug 2004, Richard Cotrina wrote:

>
> Hello :
>
> Is anyone running FreeBSD-STABLE in an intel based Sun Hardware (Sun Fire
> V65x) ? I need running it in a production environment and I prefer FreeBSD rather
> than RedHat Enterprise Linux or Solaris X86 (they are the recommended OS).

Well, some time ago I had the opportunity to put a 4.9R IIRC on a V65x
with the RAID card installed.

Played nicely, Raid was an iir, so anything went fine.
Had to give the box next day to an other project, where it was deployed
for production...

So it works, but I have no figures with long-term stability etc, but
given that it is a re-branded Intel OEM box it should play well.

HTH
Olaf

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Hello,
I've a big problem, that only root is able to login to a new FreeBSD 5.2.1
box. Neither login nor su works. I've no local access to the machine.
A ftp-login is possible for normal users.

mdm-online:/ # su - abc
su: /bin/sh: Permission denied

mdm-online:/ # login abc
Password:
Copyright (c) 1992-2004 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
        The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.

FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE-p9 (MDM-ONLINE) #1: Mon Jul 26 22:24:58 CEST 2004

Welcome to FreeBSD!

login: /bin/sh: No such file or directory

mdm-online:/ # ls -l /bin/sh
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  753872 Jul 26 10:18 /bin/sh
mdm-online:/ # pw usershow abc
abc:*:1003:1003::0:0:User &:/home/abc:/bin/sh
mdm-online:/ # ls -ld /home/abc
drwxr-xr-x  2 abc  abc  512 Aug  5 09:33 /home/abc
mdm-online:/ # ls -la /home/abc
total 20
drwxr-xr-x  2 abc   abc    512 Aug  5 09:33 .
drwxr-xr-x  7 root  wheel  512 Aug  5 09:34 ..
-rw-r--r--  1 abc   abc    767 Aug  5 09:33 .cshrc
-rw-r--r--  1 abc   abc    248 Aug  5 09:33 .login
-rw-r--r--  1 abc   abc    158 Aug  5 09:33 .login_conf
-rw-------  1 abc   abc    373 Aug  5 09:33 .mail_aliases
-rw-r--r--  1 abc   abc    331 Aug  5 09:33 .mailrc
-rw-r--r--  1 abc   abc    797 Aug  5 09:33 .profile
-rw-------  1 abc   abc    276 Aug  5 09:33 .rhosts
-rw-r--r--  1 abc   abc    975 Aug  5 09:33 .shrc

I've not modified any login* file in /etc

I've no idea what's the reason, also as it worked before.
Any hints would be greatful.

Regards,
Thomas.

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Thanks alot, I downloaded the sources and also created a file with
your patch.

However, I'm not too familiar with using the patch utility, in what
directory shall I be when applying the patch.

Do you or anyone else know a good tutorial/how-to on this issue?


-------------------
 | the libdv api has changed, I submitted a patch here.
 | http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/69406
 | you can use that to compile from source until (and if) it is
committed
 | Michael
 | 
 | 
 | On Aug 4, 2004, at 6:24 PM, Joachim Dagerot wrote:
 | 
 | > Okay, I gave up on installing the transcode port, and used the
pkg_add
 | > -r transcode instead. Worked excellent. (I have never installade
a
 | > package before).
 | >
 | > However, the package seems to not include support for DV files
 | > (camcorder files). Can I send args like to make command when
 | > installing packages?
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On Thu, Aug 05, 2004 at 10:20:18AM +0200, Thomas Krause wrote:
> Hello,
> I've a big problem, that only root is able to login to a new FreeBSD 5.2.1
> box. Neither login nor su works. I've no local access to the machine.
> A ftp-login is possible for normal users.

For the sake of the archives, I will point out:

    http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/admin.html#SU-WHEE=
L-GROUP

which is the usual cause of this sort of thing, but apparently not in
this case.
=20
> mdm-online:/ # su - abc
> su: /bin/sh: Permission denied
>=20
> mdm-online:/ # login abc
> Password:
> Copyright (c) 1992-2004 The FreeBSD Project.
> Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
>         The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
>=20
> FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE-p9 (MDM-ONLINE) #1: Mon Jul 26 22:24:58 CEST 2004
>=20
> Welcome to FreeBSD!
>=20
> login: /bin/sh: No such file or directory

At a guess: both login(1) and su(1) are meant to be SUID programs:

    % ls -la /usr/bin/su /usr/bin/login
    -r-sr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  21824 Jun  6 14:29 /usr/bin/login*
    -r-sr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   8200 Jun  6 14:29 /usr/bin/su*

They won't work without that SUID bit.  Sounds to me as if someone has
been a bit heavy handed trying to lock down the system.  Or else the
system was installed by copying from somewhere else, but using a
method which automatically drops SUID and similar bits.

	Cheers,

	Matthew

--=20
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Hi Jonathan,

> will be able to work. My box is located at a datacebter and my box is 
> allocated with about 90 IP addresses (and also the main 
> server IP which 
> was given to me when i first purchased the line). I would 
> like to know 
> how to configure /etc/rc.firewall to support my MAIN ip and 
> also how to 
> make sure the other IPS added to my box are recognized and 
> protected by 
> the firewall.
>
> Also I noticed in rc.firewall there are different modes to put the 
> firewall in like simple mode, client mode, etc. (different firewall 
> powers i guess). It would be greatly appreciated if someone 
> can show me 
> how to configure ipfw. I could not thank anyone more for the 
> future help 
> i might recieve on this issue.

simple & client mode are just different rulesets within rc.firewall. You can
of course specify your very own ruleset and point rc.conf at a different
file than rc.firewall.

Two things which may help.

1) There is a keyword "me" that you can use in IPFW rules that prevents you
needing to specify the server's actual IP's.
2) fwbuilder.org is a very handy tool for generating firewall config. if the
"me" keyword is too generic, you may find it easier have a gui that can hold
different objects for each IP address useful.... rather than write
repetitive firewall script lines. Also, if you're new to firewall policy
sometimes a gui can help.

If you want advice on generating a firewall policy, well... there are some
high level design rules you can follow that helps. I've posted on this topic
a number of times to the list so just search the archives.

Lastly, and not meant in any rude way, if you haven't > man ipfw ... I
personally found it very useful.

Hope that helps

Phil.

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I've been playing with this for a while. I need to add a small (4 GB) hard 
drive to one of my servers. Partly because I need more storage space, 
partly because I think there's something wrong with the present hard drive 
-- I get page faults while in kernel mode (fatal signal 12, I think it is) 
and spontaneous reboots when I try to build world on this drive (or make 
index, or upgrade some ports, etc.).

What I want to do is copy my whole /usr/home directory tree to another Free 
BSD machine down the hall, pull the current hard drive (4 GB) out, put the 
new hard drive with a fresh build of Free BSD in the box as the master 
drive, reformat the old drive, and finally, copy the /usr/home directory 
tree back to the old hard drive and mount it separately as /usr/home.

I've found directions that almost fit my needs, but not quite. What I would 
like to do is tar the directory tree and pipe it to either scp or ssh. What 
I don't want to do, because I don't think I have enough room, is make a tar 
file on the old machine. One example I found on the WWW is: tar -czf - 
/some/file | ssh host.name tar -xzf - -C /destination.

That's not quite what I want, because I don't see any need to untar 
everything at the far end, but I can't send a file without using some 
command to ssh. I thought tar -czf - /some/file | scp - 
name@remotehost:somefile.tar.gz, but it doesn't seem to work. Can anyone 
point out where I'm going wrong? I guess if I have to I can untar the 
directory tree to some temporary place on the remote host -- that one has 
plenty of room on it, but it seems like an inelegant solution. That's 
really my only objection to it.

-- 
Roger

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On Thu, Aug 05, 2004 at 05:58:24PM +0700, Roger Merritt wrote:
> One example I found on the WWW is: tar -czf - /some/file | \
> ssh host.name tar -xzf - -C /destination.
> 
> That's not quite what I want, because I don't see any need to untar 
> everything at the far end, but I can't send a file without using some 
> command to ssh.

If all you need is somthing at the other end capturing the data try

... | ssh remotehost "cat - > myfile"

-- 
greetz Joost
joost@jodocus.org

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## Top-posting removed.
## Please do not top-post in the middle of a bottom-posting thread.

On 2004-08-04 23:54, BSDjunkie <gooober33-freebsd@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Olaf Hoyer <ohoyer@ohoyer.de> wrote:
>>On Wed, 4 Aug 2004, Peter Ryan wrote:
>>> I am very new, and have been reinstalling FreeBSD many times to clean
>>> up whatever mess i make and start again.
>>>
>>> I recently used cvsup to update my ports collection for the
>>> 4.10_RELEASE.
>>>
>>> Now, when I reinstall, it takes much longer because i bring in the
>>> updated ports collection rather than the ports collection on the
>>> install CD (which i burnt from an ISO file)
>>
>> The whole portscollection is also available via ftp on ftp2.de.freebsd.org:
>> [snip ftp get example]
>> Simply download the tar.gz, and extract it to /usr/ports
>>
>> On each ISO of a release, like the 4.10R-CD #1, they take a snapshot of
>> the ports tree when the make the assumption that it ist quite
>> consistent. So when you download in say, 3 months a 4.10 ISO, the ports
>> tree therein will be more than 3 months old.
>>
>> In that case, use whether cvsup or method above to get a recent ports
>> tree.
>
> You can also reinstall the ports tree from the iso image.
>
> There's an install script on the cd that you can run if needed to
> reinstall the release version of the ports tree.
>
> Updating should be done through cvsup if possible.

I think that what the original poster meant is a bit different than this.
When the /usr/ports tree is updated, the infrastructure bits that it
contains will download updated, newer or fixed versions of the same ports
if one tries to reinstall them.  Since the release CD-ROMs do not contain
the source files for these updated ports, they're downloaded over the
network -- which can take a while if you're using a dialup connection or
something similarly slow.

The answer is that this cannot be avoided, since the source files of the
new, updated versions of the packages were not available when the release
CD-ROMs were prepared.

<hint>

To avoid downloading multiple times the same source files, I usually wait
until one of my machines downloads the source tarballs and then burn a
CD-ROM with the contents of my /usr/ports/distfiles or share this directory
over NFS when that's possible.

Peter,
If you have a fast connection somewhere that can download these source
files for you, you can copy the files from /usr/ports/distfiles from that
machine to any other FreeBSD installation.  The next time the ports try to
locate the source tarball it's going to be where they expect it and no
download will be attempted over the network.

</hint>

Giorgos

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Srot BULL wrote:

> My apologies, below is my complete ruleset:
> # Flush out EVERYTHING first before starting
> ipfw -q -f flush
> 
> # Set rules command prefix
> CMD="ipfw -q add"
> IFN="rl0"
[...]

Hi
I don't see nothing about NAT - mayby this is problem??
How work others connections from 192.168...?
To external POP, SMTP servers?

P.S.
Sorry about my english.

Arek


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On Tue, 03-Aug-2004 at 23:31:52 -0400, up@3.am wrote:
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> Please cc replies directly to me, as I am not subscribed to the lists.
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> With some help from here, I was able to get this RAID card to see our
> external DLT (QUANTUM 4000) SCSI tape drive by installing the aacp (pass
> through) driver in addition to the aac driver.  camcontrol now works, as
> do basic mt commands and amcheck (amanda check).
> 
> However, (amanda) dumps either hang, fail completely or fail after
> transfering very little data.  On the console, I see:
> 
> (sa0:aacp1:0:4:0): READ(06). CDB8 0 0 0 20 0 0
> (sa0:aacp1:0:4:0): NO SENSE ILI (length mismatch): -24576 csi:0,0,0,1
> 
> At this point the device is completely unresponsive, and the only way to
> get the system to see it again is to reboot the whole server.  I tried
> ordering a 3 ft cable, thinking I was pushing my luck with the 6 ft (I've
> had this problem with SCSI cables in the past), but the problem persists.
> 
> The same drive (which has an active terminator) has been working fine for
> years on a different box using an Intel L440GX+ MB's on-board SCSI port.
> 
> Once again, any helpful replies are greatly appreciated!

Are you sure you are running a recent fw on your DLT4k? My DLTs
used to behave badly with early fw revisions. Check out

http://www.quantum.com/am/service_support/downloads/software/dlt4000.htm

You can upgrade it by tape or use my software for updating the fw of
SCSI devices on FreeBSD.

	-Andre

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> On Thu, Aug 05, 2004 at 05:58:24PM +0700, Roger Merritt wrote:
>> One example I found on the WWW is: tar -czf - /some/file | \
>> ssh host.name tar -xzf - -C /destination.
>>
>> That's not quite what I want, because I don't see any need to untar
>> everything at the far end, but I can't send a file without using
>> some
>> command to ssh.
>
> If all you need is somthing at the other end capturing the data try
>
> ... | ssh remotehost "cat - > myfile"

Remember though, that the remote file will be a tarball itself. Here
is the command I use frequently, to get exactly what you want...a
tarball of a local file system on a remote machine:

# tar -cvzf - /home/steve | ssh steve@server 'cat > tarball.tar.gz'

Regards,

Steve


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Greetings, all.

I am running 4.10-Stable, and I have the following question 
about portupgrade.

So far, I have not had a successful build of OpenOffice (on 
any version of FreeBSD...  ever...  so I use their binaries 
as they become available), and the samba port is broken 
(until I upgrade the system to 5.x).

What I do now is simply grep a list of installed ports with 
updates available and send the outbut to a file. (ie,  # 
portversion | grep "<" > ~/pupdate.sh )

Then I edit ~/pupdate.sh so that every line begins with 
"portupgrade -R."  (And, of course, I delete the samba and 
OpenOffice entries) In other words my file would look 
something like this:

>>>
#!/bin/sh
portupgrade -R blip
portupgrade -R blop
portupgrade -R bluey
<<<

make it executable, run it overnight, and fix the small 
stuff in the morning.

Obviously, because I like to upgrade my systems every week, 
this gets old.  Is there any way I can tell portupgrade to 
simply portupgrade -aR (except for a specific list of 
packages)?

If not, does anyone have a more simple solution?  

And again, if not, would this be considered a worthy 
suggestion for the developers of /portupgrade?

Thanks

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Hi,

> I've been playing with this for a while. I need to add a small (4 GB) hard 
> drive to one of my servers. Partly because I need more storage space, 
> partly because I think there's something wrong with the present hard drive 
> -- I get page faults while in kernel mode (fatal signal 12, I think it is) 
> and spontaneous reboots when I try to build world on this drive (or make 
> index, or upgrade some ports, etc.).
> 
> What I want to do is copy my whole /usr/home directory tree to another Free 
> BSD machine down the hall, pull the current hard drive (4 GB) out, put the 
> new hard drive with a fresh build of Free BSD in the box as the master 
> drive, reformat the old drive, and finally, copy the /usr/home directory 
> tree back to the old hard drive and mount it separately as /usr/home.

I note that someone else has posted helpful suggestions on how to do
what you say you want.   But, I wonder if that is what you really want.
First, a comment:   A page fault is not a problem with your disk.  It
is just the system discovering that the piece of memory it wants to
access next is not really in memory but paged out on disk - FreeBSD
uses the swap space for this.

But, having said that, a signal 12 can mean that it is having some
hardware problem reading that disk (or some other hardware problem),

If it is getting hard errors reading that disk, then it very likely
means the disk is on its last legs and would be a very bad place to
put your /usr/home directory back on.   Modern disks have their own
spare sectors to which they map bad sectors automatically.  Once you
start actually seeing unrecovered errors from a disk, it tends to 
mean that all the spare sectors are used up and the disk is heading
for a total failure.

So, check the var/log/messages file and see if there are errors
pointing to the disk and if so, get it replaced as soon as possible
and don't bother trying to reuse it.   In checking for errors in
the messages file, you may discover the signal 12 errors are not from
the disk, but something else.   In that case, you have some other 
hardware problem to solve - controller, motherboard, whatever.

////jerry

> 
> I've found directions that almost fit my needs, but not quite. What I would 
> like to do is tar the directory tree and pipe it to either scp or ssh. What 
> I don't want to do, because I don't think I have enough room, is make a tar 
> file on the old machine. One example I found on the WWW is: tar -czf - 
> /some/file | ssh host.name tar -xzf - -C /destination.
> 
> That's not quite what I want, because I don't see any need to untar 
> everything at the far end, but I can't send a file without using some 
> command to ssh. I thought tar -czf - /some/file | scp - 
> name@remotehost:somefile.tar.gz, but it doesn't seem to work. Can anyone 
> point out where I'm going wrong? I guess if I have to I can untar the 
> directory tree to some temporary place on the remote host -- that one has 
> plenty of room on it, but it seems like an inelegant solution. That's 
> really my only objection to it.
> 
> -- 
> Roger
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On Thu, Aug 05, 2004 at 09:56:50AM -0400, Mike Hauber wrote:
> Obviously, because I like to upgrade my systems every week, 
> this gets old.  Is there any way I can tell portupgrade to 
> simply portupgrade -aR (except for a specific list of 
> packages)?

>From man portupgrade:

     -x GLOB
     --exclude GLOB         Exclude packages matching the specified glob pat-
                            tern.  Exclusion is performed after recursing
                            dependency in response to -r and/or -R, which
                            means, for example, the following command will
                            upgrade all the packages depending on XFree86 but
                            leave XFree86 as it is:

                                  portupgrade -rx XFree86 XFree86

-Radek

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Hi

It seems that the constant is in /usr/sys/sys/mount.h.
The limit is already there since the initial import in
1995. (From 4.4BSD?)
I want to know what is the root cause preventing a
larger value.

PS: I have found some interesting links about
MNAMELEN:

http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/mailarchive/kernel/2003-08/msg00194.html

http://www.secnetix.de/~olli/FreeBSD/mnamelen.hawk

>From Compaq(HP) Tru64 UNIX 5.1 man pages, it seems
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On Thu, 5 Aug 2004 09:56:50 -0400
Mike Hauber <m.hauber@mchsi.com> wrote:

> Greetings, all.
> 
> I am running 4.10-Stable, and I have the following question 
> about portupgrade.
> 
> So far, I have not had a successful build of OpenOffice (on 
> any version of FreeBSD...  ever...  so I use their binaries 
> as they become available), and the samba port is broken 
> (until I upgrade the system to 5.x).
> 
> What I do now is simply grep a list of installed ports with 
> updates available and send the outbut to a file. (ie,  # 
> portversion | grep "<" > ~/pupdate.sh )
> 
> Then I edit ~/pupdate.sh so that every line begins with 
> "portupgrade -R."  (And, of course, I delete the samba and 
> OpenOffice entries) In other words my file would look 
> something like this:
> 
> >>>
> #!/bin/sh
> portupgrade -R blip
> portupgrade -R blop
> portupgrade -R bluey
> <<<
> 
> make it executable, run it overnight, and fix the small 
> stuff in the morning.
> 
> Obviously, because I like to upgrade my systems every week, 
> this gets old.  Is there any way I can tell portupgrade to 
> simply portupgrade -aR (except for a specific list of 
> packages)?
> 
> If not, does anyone have a more simple solution?  
> 
> And again, if not, would this be considered a worthy 
> suggestion for the developers of /portupgrade?
> 
> Thanks

Hi,

I think what you're looking for is /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf .

Here is an excerpt from that file:

  # HOLD_PKGS: array
  #
  # This is a list of ports you don't want portupgrade(1) to upgrade,
  # portversion(1) to suggest upgrading, or pkgdb(1) to fix.

Its a very handy tool since you can also set make variables which
portupgrade will also honor.

Best regards,

Randy


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On Aug 5, 2004, at 12:54 AM, Stijn Hoop wrote:

>> # vinum list
>> 2 drives:
>> D vinumdrive1  State: up  /dev/ad6s1d     A: 156041/156041 MB (100%)
>> D vinumdrive0  State: up  /dev/ad4s1d     A: 156041/156041 MB (100%)
>>
>> 0 volumes:
>> 0 plexes:
>> 0 subdisks:
>> #
>
> How early in the boot is this? Have you done 'vinum start' yet?

System is multiuser. "vinum start" has already been executed which was 
required to run "vinum list" shown above. vinum.ko is/was loaded.

> If that doesn't work, does 'vinum read vinumdrive0 vinumdrive1' work?

No. Vinum replies:
** no additional drives found: No such file or directory
Can't save Vinum config: No such file or directory

> before vinum can create devices.  You can force vinum to recreate the 
> device
> nodes by doing
>
> vinum makedev

Vinum replies:
makedev is not needed for a DEVFS-based system


Am tempted to rerun "stripe -v /dev/ad4s1d /dev/ad6s1d" again but would 
rather not lose the data on the volume.

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Whoa.  This would definately help with the "in the morning 
fixes" as well.  lol...  I didn't even know that was there.  
Thanks so much!


On Thursday 05 August 2004 10:22 am, Randy Pratt proclaimed:
> On Thu, 5 Aug 2004 09:56:50 -0400
>
> Mike Hauber <m.hauber@mchsi.com> wrote:
> > Greetings, all.
> >
> > I am running 4.10-Stable, and I have the following
> > question about portupgrade.
> >
> > So far, I have not had a successful build of OpenOffice
> > (on any version of FreeBSD...  ever...  so I use their
> > binaries as they become available), and the samba port
> > is broken (until I upgrade the system to 5.x).
> >
> > What I do now is simply grep a list of installed ports
> > with updates available and send the outbut to a file.
> > (ie,  # portversion | grep "<" > ~/pupdate.sh )
> >
> > Then I edit ~/pupdate.sh so that every line begins with
> > "portupgrade -R."  (And, of course, I delete the samba
> > and OpenOffice entries) In other words my file would
> > look something like this:
> >
> >
> > #!/bin/sh
> > portupgrade -R blip
> > portupgrade -R blop
> > portupgrade -R bluey
> > <<<
> >
> > make it executable, run it overnight, and fix the small
> > stuff in the morning.
> >
> > Obviously, because I like to upgrade my systems every
> > week, this gets old.  Is there any way I can tell
> > portupgrade to simply portupgrade -aR (except for a
> > specific list of packages)?
> >
> > If not, does anyone have a more simple solution?
> >
> > And again, if not, would this be considered a worthy
> > suggestion for the developers of /portupgrade?
> >
> > Thanks
>
> Hi,
>
> I think what you're looking for is
> /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf .
>
> Here is an excerpt from that file:
>
>   # HOLD_PKGS: array
>   #
>   # This is a list of ports you don't want portupgrade(1)
> to upgrade, # portversion(1) to suggest upgrading, or
> pkgdb(1) to fix.
>
> Its a very handy tool since you can also set make
> variables which portupgrade will also honor.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Randy

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Hello all,
 
I am probably missing something really stupid but here it goes.  I've read the man pages, the handbook and even googled the problem to no avail.
 
I am trying to set up natd to redirect public ips to my private addresses.
 
This is what I have set up in rc.conf
 
defaultrouter="24.97.250.201"
gateway_enable="YES"
hostname="gir.visionpayments.net"
ifconfig_rl0="inet 192.168.0.13  netmask 255.255.255.0"
ifconfig_xl0="inet 24.97.250.202 netmask 255.255.255.248"
linux_enable="YES"
sshd_enable="YES"
usbd_enable="YES"
firewall_enabled="YES"
firewall_type="OPEN"
natd_enabled="YES"
natd_interface="xl0"
natd_flags="-f /etc/natd.conf"

This is what I have in natd.conf
 
redirect_address 192.168.0.10 24.97.250.203

>From what I read in the man pages and handbook this should be all I need, however, I cannot even ping 24.97.250.203.  So I typed in 
 
-bash-2.05b$ natd -redirect_address 192.168.0.10 24.97.250.203
 
and got
 
natd: aliasing address not given
 
So I added 
 
ifconfig_xl0_alias0 "inet 24.97.250.203"
 
to rc.conf and now I am able to ping that public addy but it is doesn't seem to be redirecting me to 192.168.0.10.  So I typed in 
-bash-2.05b$ natd -redirect_address 192.168.0.10 24.97.250.203
again to see what was happens and got 
natd: aliasing address not given
again.  am I just being a dumb n00b? wtf am I doing wrong? 
 
 
 

		
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Hi Ml,

I installed php version 4.3.8 from the ports and some extensions. (list at
bottom)
Every CLI script dies with a:
Abort trap (core dumped)
The scripts themself work fine till the end, but then they got a SIGABTR
signal and throw the Abort trap message.
e.g. $php -i
phpinfo()
PHP Version => 4.3.8

System => FreeBSD juergen 4.10-STABLE FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE
#0: Fri May i386
Build Date => Aug  5 2004 13:46:56
Configure Command =>  './configure' '--enable-versioning'
'--enable-memory-limit' '--with-layout=GNU'
'--with-config-file-scan-dir=/usr/local/etc/php' '--disa
ble-all' '--with-regex=php' '--with-apxs=/usr/local/sbin/apxs'
'--prefix=/usr/local' 'i386-portbld-freebsd4.10'
Server API => Command Line Interface
Virtual Directory Support => disabled
Configuration File (php.ini) Path => /usr/local/etc/php.ini
Scan this dir for additional .ini files => /usr/local/etc/php
additional .ini files parsed => /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini

PHP API => 20020918
PHP Extension => 20020429
Zend Extension => 20021010
Debug Build => no
Thread Safety => disabled
Registered PHP Streams => php, http, ftp, compress.bzip2, compress.zlib
...
...
...
This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.

If you did not receive a copy of the PHP license, or have any
questions about PHP licensing, please contact license@php.net.
Abort trap (core dumped)


I got trouble with the extension  recode too. With this modul I was not
able to
start any php script or apache. Only coredumps are thrown.
I removed this extension, now apache runs fine.
Probably I destroyed something for the CLI?
I've searched a while at google if those problems did occur to anybody
else, but I found nothing similar. :(

here a list of all extensions included in my php:
extension=bz2.so
extension=calendar.so
extension=crack.so
extension=ctype.so
extension=curl.so
extension=dio.so
extension=domxml.so
extension=exif.so
extension=fileinfo.so
extension=filepro.so
extension=ftp.so
extension=gd.so
extension=gettext.so
extension=gmp.so
extension=iconv.so
extension=imagick.so
extension=imap.so
extension=interbase.so
extension=ldap.so
extension=mbstring.so
extension=mcal.so
extension=mcrypt.so
extension=mhash.so
extension=ming.so
extension=mysql.so
extension=ncurses.so
extension=odbc.so
extension=openssl.so
extension=overload.so
extension=pcntl.so
extension=pcre.so
extension=pdf.so
extension=pgsql.so
extension=posix.so
extension=pspell.so
extension=readline.so
extension=session.so
extension=snmp.so
extension=sockets.so
extension=sysvmsg.so
extension=sysvsem.so
extension=sysvshm.so
extension=tokenizer.so
extension=xml.so
extension=xmlrpc.so
extension=xslt.so
extension=zip.so

and a small strace output from $php -i after the licensing thing:
...
munmap(0x28247000, 32768)               = 0
munmap(0x2824f000, 180224)              = 0
munmap(0x2827b000, 188416)              = 0
munmap(0x282a9000, 970752)              = 0
munmap(0x28396000, 53248)               = 0
munmap(0x283a3000, 192512)              = 0
munmap(0x283d2000, 1015808)             = 0
sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL)      = 0
sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, ~[ILL TRAP ABRT EMT FPE BUS SEGV SYS], []) = 0
sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL)      = 0
sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, ~[ILL TRAP ABRT EMT FPE BUS SEGV SYS], []) = 0
munmap(0x28244000, 12288)               = 0
sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL)      = 0
sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, ~[ILL TRAP ABRT EMT FPE BUS SEGV SYS], []) = 0
sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL)      = 0
sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, ~[ILL TRAP ABRT EMT FPE BUS SEGV SYS], []) = 0
munmap(0x28235000, 12288)               = 0
munmap(0x28238000, 49152)               = 0
sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL)      = 0
sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, ~[ILL TRAP ABRT EMT FPE BUS SEGV SYS], []) = 0
sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL)      = 0
sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, ~[ILL TRAP ABRT EMT FPE BUS SEGV SYS], []) = 0
munmap(0x2822e000, 28672)               = 0
sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL)      = 0
sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, ~[ILL TRAP ABRT EMT FPE BUS SEGV SYS], []) = 0
sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL)      = 0
sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, ~[ILL TRAP ABRT EMT FPE BUS SEGV SYS], []) = 0
munmap(0x2821a000, 16384)               = 0
munmap(0x2821e000, 65536)               = 0
sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL)      = 0
sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, ~[ILL TRAP ABRT EMT FPE BUS SEGV SYS], []) = 0
sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL)      = 0
sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, ~[ILL TRAP ABRT EMT FPE BUS SEGV SYS], []) = 0
munmap(0x2820f000, 45056)               = 0
sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL)      = 0
sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, ~[ABRT], NULL) = 0
getpid()                                = 64489 (ppid 64488)
kill(64489, SIGABRT <unfinished ...>
--- SIGABRT (Abort trap) ---
--- SIGABRT (Abort trap) ---



gruss/regards

Andre

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I want to watch video films in console using MPlayer or other video =
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What does mean Framebuffer and can it decide my problem?

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--On Thursday, August 05, 2004 09:56:50 AM -0400 Mike Hauber 
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> So far, I have not had a successful build of OpenOffice (on
> any version of FreeBSD...  ever...  so I use their binaries
> as they become available), and the samba port is broken
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>
That's odd.  I've had no problem with *any* port of samba, and I've been 
running it for over three years now, with numerous upgrades.

What sort of problem are you having?

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> Hello all,
>
> I am probably missing something really stupid but here it goes.  I've
> read the man pages, the handbook and even googled the problem to no
> avail.
>
> I am trying to set up natd to redirect public ips to my private
> addresses.
>
> This is what I have set up in rc.conf
>
> defaultrouter="24.97.250.201"
> gateway_enable="YES"
> hostname="gir.visionpayments.net"
> ifconfig_rl0="inet 192.168.0.13  netmask 255.255.255.0"
> ifconfig_xl0="inet 24.97.250.202 netmask 255.255.255.248"
> linux_enable="YES"
> sshd_enable="YES"
> usbd_enable="YES"
> firewall_enabled="YES"
> firewall_type="OPEN"
> natd_enabled="YES"
> natd_interface="xl0"
> natd_flags="-f /etc/natd.conf"
>
> This is what I have in natd.conf
>
> redirect_address 192.168.0.10 24.97.250.203
>
>>From what I read in the man pages and handbook this should be all I
>> need, however, I cannot even ping 24.97.250.203.  So I typed in
>
> -bash-2.05b$ natd -redirect_address 192.168.0.10 24.97.250.203
>
> and got
>
> natd: aliasing address not given
>
> So I added
>
> ifconfig_xl0_alias0 "inet 24.97.250.203"
>
> to rc.conf and now I am able to ping that public addy but it is
> doesn't seem to be redirecting me to 192.168.0.10.  So I typed in
> -bash-2.05b$ natd -redirect_address 192.168.0.10 24.97.250.203
> again to see what was happens and got
> natd: aliasing address not given
> again.  am I just being a dumb n00b? wtf am I doing wrong?
>

First off, have you confirmed natd to be functional? Can the internal
machines get out to the net?

At what point of your firewall ruleset are you diverting to natd?

Have you tried this:

redirect_address 192.168.0.10 0.0.0.0

to see if incoming traffic destined to any public IP gets redirected?

Steve

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>> Hello all,
>>
>> I am probably missing something really stupid but here it goes.
>> I've
>> read the man pages, the handbook and even googled the problem to no
>> avail.
>>
>> I am trying to set up natd to redirect public ips to my private
>> addresses.
>>
>> This is what I have set up in rc.conf
>>
>> defaultrouter="24.97.250.201"
>> gateway_enable="YES"
>> hostname="gir.visionpayments.net"
>> ifconfig_rl0="inet 192.168.0.13  netmask 255.255.255.0"
>> ifconfig_xl0="inet 24.97.250.202 netmask 255.255.255.248"
>> linux_enable="YES"
>> sshd_enable="YES"
>> usbd_enable="YES"
>> firewall_enabled="YES"
>> firewall_type="OPEN"
>> natd_enabled="YES"
>> natd_interface="xl0"
>> natd_flags="-f /etc/natd.conf"
>>
>> This is what I have in natd.conf
>>
>> redirect_address 192.168.0.10 24.97.250.203
>>
>>>From what I read in the man pages and handbook this should be all I
>>> need, however, I cannot even ping 24.97.250.203.  So I typed in
>>
>> -bash-2.05b$ natd -redirect_address 192.168.0.10 24.97.250.203
>>
>> and got
>>
>> natd: aliasing address not given
>>
>> So I added
>>
>> ifconfig_xl0_alias0 "inet 24.97.250.203"
>>
>> to rc.conf and now I am able to ping that public addy but it is
>> doesn't seem to be redirecting me to 192.168.0.10.  So I typed in
>> -bash-2.05b$ natd -redirect_address 192.168.0.10 24.97.250.203
>> again to see what was happens and got

>> natd: aliasing address not given

Oh, and to further... when using -redirect_address as above, you must
supply the -i (-interface) or an -alias_address statement. Try this:

# natd -i rl0 -redirect_address 192.168.0.10 0.0.0.0

or this:

# natd -a 24.97.250.203 -redirect_address 192.168.0.10 0.0.0.0

Cheers,

Steve

>> again.  am I just being a dumb n00b? wtf am I doing wrong?
>>
>
> First off, have you confirmed natd to be functional? Can the internal
> machines get out to the net?
>
> At what point of your firewall ruleset are you diverting to natd?
>
> Have you tried this:
>
> redirect_address 192.168.0.10 0.0.0.0
>
> to see if incoming traffic destined to any public IP gets redirected?
>
> Steve
>
>>
>>
>>
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Hi,

I am trying to install a printer on my machine. It has a USB connector. With 
dmesg I can see that the printer has been detected as 

ulpt0: Olivetti Job_Jet M400, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 2, iclass 7/1
ulpt0: using bi-directional mode

How can I test the printer?

I tried lptest but it printed garbages.
 
Regards
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The handbook firewall section is in the process of being updated.
You can get a copy from
http://freebsd.a1poweruser.com:6088/FBSD_firewall/

Everything you wrote about is covered in detail. Give it a look see.



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Jonathan
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Subject: IPFW Configuration

Hello, I am sort of a newbie to IPFW for FreeBSD-5.2.1. I have never
used it and need some help with the configuration. Ok here goes if
anyone can help.

I compiled IPFIREWALL into the kernel with the options to DEFAULT TO
ACCEPT ALL and the VERBOSE=50 option. With the support for IPFW in
the
kernel I then added firewall_enable=off to the rc.conf (with some
other
options that are commented out at the moment). The reason for having
the
firewall off right now is because i was told that rc.firewall in
/etc
needed to be configured for my network card (or IP addresses) before
it
will be able to work. My box is located at a datacebter and my box
is
allocated with about 90 IP addresses (and also the main server IP
which
was given to me when i first purchased the line). I would like to
know
how to configure /etc/rc.firewall to support my MAIN ip and also how
to
make sure the other IPS added to my box are recognized and protected
by
the firewall.
Also I noticed in rc.firewall there are different modes to put the
firewall in like simple mode, client mode, etc. (different firewall
powers i guess). It would be greatly appreciated if someone can show
me
how to configure ipfw. I could not thank anyone more for the future
help
i might recieve on this issue.

If you guys need a copy of rc.conf or rc.firewall in order to help
just
email me and i will provide an attachment.

Thamks in advance

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On Aug 5, 2004, at 9:28 AM, David Kelly wrote:

> Am tempted to rerun "stripe -v /dev/ad4s1d /dev/ad6s1d" again but 
> would rather not lose the data on the volume.

Update: did exactly that described above and my old data survived!

--
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>>>
wizard# uname -a

FreeBSD wizard.valleygate.net 4.10-STABLE FreeBSD 
4.10-STABLE #0: Thu Jul  8 19:53:59 EDT 2004     
root@wizard.valleygate.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/WIZARD  
i386

wizard# portupgrade -R samba

** Port marked as IGNORE: net/samba:
        "is marked as broken: "ACL support requires a recent 
FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT""
<<<


It's not really that big of a deal for me, though.  The 
version I have (samba-2.2.8a_2) does what I need it to.  Of 
course when I _do_ upgrade to 5.x, I'll be excited to see 
what the new version has in store.


On Thursday 05 August 2004 10:49 am, Paul Schmehl 
proclaimed:
> --On Thursday, August 05, 2004 09:56:50 AM -0400 Mike
> Hauber
>
> <m.hauber@mchsi.com> wrote:
> > So far, I have not had a successful build of OpenOffice
> > (on any version of FreeBSD...  ever...  so I use their
> > binaries as they become available), and the samba port
> > is broken (until I upgrade the system to 5.x).
>
> That's odd.  I've had no problem with *any* port of
> samba, and I've been running it for over three years now,
> with numerous upgrades.
>
> What sort of problem are you having?
>
> Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu)
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On Thu, Aug 05, 2004 at 02:45:01AM +0400, ilich wrote:
> Hello all.
> 
> I want to watch video films in console using MPlayer or other video players.
> I have tried to use SVGAlib, but it supports 4 bit per pixel only, but I want more.

You might want to check this article out:
http://www.ezunix.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=61&page=1

-Radek

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mplayer also supports libcaca (http://sam.zoy.org/projects/libcaca/).
install graphics/libcaca and then remove the line "--disable-libcaca" 
in multimedia/mplayer/Makefile and install mplayer.

Michael

On Aug 4, 2004, at 6:45 PM, ilich wrote:

> Hello all.
>
> I want to watch video films in console using MPlayer or other video 
> players.
> I have tried to use SVGAlib, but it supports 4 bit per pixel only, but 
> I want more.
>
> What does mean Framebuffer and can it decide my problem?
>
> Help me please!
>
> Thanks, beforehand.
>
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OP forgot to Cc: list...

thank you so much.  I found that for some reason natd was not loading
at boot so I typed this ipfw -f flush
ipfw add divert natd all from any to any via xl0
ipfw add pass all from any to any
natd -n xl0 -redirect_address 192.168.0.10 24.97.250.203
and it works like a dream

Steve Bertrand <iaccounts@ibctech.ca> wrote:
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I am probably missing something really stupid but here it goes. I've
>> read the man pages, the handbook and even googled the problem to no
avail.
>>
>> I am trying to set up natd to redirect public ips to my private
addresses.
>>
>> This is what I have set up in rc.conf
>>
>> defaultrouter="24.97.250.201"
>> gateway_enable="YES"
>> hostname="gir.visionpayments.net"
>> ifconfig_rl0="inet 192.168.0.13 netmask 255.255.255.0"
>> ifconfig_xl0="inet 24.97.250.202 netmask 255.255.255.248"
>> linux_enable="YES"
>> sshd_enable="YES"
>> usbd_enable="YES"
>> firewall_enabled="YES"
>> firewall_type="OPEN"
>> natd_enabled="YES"
>> natd_interface="xl0"
>> natd_flags="-f /etc/natd.conf"
>>
>> This is what I have in natd.conf
>>
>> redirect_address 192.168.0.10 24.97.250.203
>>
>>>From what I read in the man pages and handbook this should be all I
>>> need, however, I cannot even ping 24.97.250.203. So I typed in
>>
>> -bash-2.05b$ natd -redirect_address 192.168.0.10 24.97.250.203
>>
>> and got
>>
>> natd: aliasing address not given
>>
>> So I added
>>
>> ifconfig_xl0_alias0 "inet 24.97.250.203"
>>
>> to rc.conf and now I am able to ping that public addy but it is
doesn't seem to be redirecting me to 192.168.0.10. So I typed in
-bash-2.05b$ natd -redirect_address 192.168.0.10 24.97.250.203
>> again to see what was happens and got

>> natd: aliasing address not given

Oh, and to further... when using -redirect_address as above, you must
supply the -i (-interface) or an -alias_address statement. Try this:

# natd -i rl0 -redirect_address 192.168.0.10 0.0.0.0

or this:

# natd -a 24.97.250.203 -redirect_address 192.168.0.10 0.0.0.0

Cheers,

Steve

>> again. am I just being a dumb n00b? wtf am I doing wrong?
>>
>
> First off, have you confirmed natd to be functional? Can the
internal machines get out to the net?
>
> At what point of your firewall ruleset are you diverting to natd?
>
> Have you tried this:
>
> redirect_address 192.168.0.10 0.0.0.0
>
> to see if incoming traffic destined to any public IP gets redirected?
>
> Steve
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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   thank you so much.  I found that for some reason natd was not loading
   at boot so I typed this

   ipfw -f flush

   ipfw add divert natd all from any to any via xl0

   ipfw add pass all from any to any

   natd -n xl0 -redirect_address 192.168.0.10 24.97.250.203

   and it works like a dream
   Steve Bertrand <iaccounts@ibctech.ca> wrote:

     >> Hello all,
     >>
     >> I am probably missing something really stupid but here it goes.
     >> I've
     >> read the man pages, the handbook and even googled the problem to
     no
     >> avail.
     >>
     >> I am trying to set up natd to redirect public ips to my private
     >> addresses.
     >>
     >> This is what I have set up in rc.conf
     >>
     >> defaultrouter="24.97.250.201"
     >> gateway_enable="YES"
     >> hostname="gir.visionpayments.net"
     >> ifconfig_rl0="inet 192.168.0.13 netmask 255.255.255.0"
     >> ifconfig_xl0="inet 24.97.250.202 netmask 255.255.255.248"
     >> linux_enable="YES"
     >> sshd_enable="YES"
     >> usbd_enable="YES"
     >> firewall_enabled="YES"
     >> firewall_type="OPEN"
     >> natd_enabled="YES"
     >> natd_interface="xl0"
     >> natd_flags="-f /etc/natd.conf"
     >>
     >> This is what I have in natd.conf
     >>
     >> redirect_address 192.168.0.10 24.97.250.203
     >>
     >>>From what I read in the man pages and handbook this should be
     all I
     >>> need, however, I cannot even ping 24.97.250.203. So I typed in
     >>
     >> -bash-2.05b$ natd -redirect_address 192.168.0.10 24.97.250.203
     >>
     >> and got
     >>
     >> natd: aliasing address not given
     >>
     >> So I added
     >>
     >> ifconfig_xl0_alias0 "inet 24.97.250.203"
     >>
     >> to rc.conf and now I am able to ping that public addy but it is
     >> doesn't seem to be redirecting me to 192.168.0.10. So I typed in
     >> -bash-2.05b$ natd -redirect_address 192.168.0.10 24.97.250.203
     >> again to see what was happens and got
     >> natd: aliasing address not given
     Oh, and to further... when using -redirect_address as above, you
     must
     supply the -i (-interface) or an -alias_address statement. Try
     this:
     # natd -i rl0 -redirect_address 192.168.0.10 0.0.0.0
     or this:
     # natd -a 24.97.250.203 -redirect_address 192.168.0.10 0.0.0.0
     Cheers,
     Steve
     >> again. am I just being a dumb n00b? wtf am I doing wrong?
     >>
     >
     > First off, have you confirmed natd to be functional? Can the
     internal
     > machines get out to the net?
     >
     > At what point of your firewall ruleset are you diverting to natd?
     >
     > Have you tried this:
     >
     > redirect_address 192.168.0.10 0.0.0.0
     >
     > to see if incoming traffic destined to any public IP gets
     redirected?
     >
     > Steve
     >
     >>
     >>
     >>
     >>
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Hi,

Thu, Aug 05, 2004 at 10:20:18AM +0200
Thomas Krause <fq@chef-ingenieur.de> wrote:

> Hello,
> I've a big problem, that only root is able to login to a new FreeBSD 5.2.1
> box. Neither login nor su works. I've no local access to the machine.
> A ftp-login is possible for normal users.
> 
> mdm-online:/ # su - abc
> su: /bin/sh: Permission denied
> 
> mdm-online:/ # login abc
> Password:
> Copyright (c) 1992-2004 The FreeBSD Project.
> Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
>         The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
> 
> FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE-p9 (MDM-ONLINE) #1: Mon Jul 26 22:24:58 CEST 2004
> 
> Welcome to FreeBSD!
> 
> login: /bin/sh: No such file or directory
> 
> mdm-online:/ # ls -l /bin/sh
> -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  753872 Jul 26 10:18 /bin/sh
> mdm-online:/ # pw usershow abc
> abc:*:1003:1003::0:0:User &:/home/abc:/bin/sh
> mdm-online:/ # ls -ld /home/abc
> drwxr-xr-x  2 abc  abc  512 Aug  5 09:33 /home/abc
> mdm-online:/ # ls -la /home/abc
> total 20
> drwxr-xr-x  2 abc   abc    512 Aug  5 09:33 .
> drwxr-xr-x  7 root  wheel  512 Aug  5 09:34 ..
> -rw-r--r--  1 abc   abc    767 Aug  5 09:33 .cshrc
> -rw-r--r--  1 abc   abc    248 Aug  5 09:33 .login
> -rw-r--r--  1 abc   abc    158 Aug  5 09:33 .login_conf
> -rw-------  1 abc   abc    373 Aug  5 09:33 .mail_aliases
> -rw-r--r--  1 abc   abc    331 Aug  5 09:33 .mailrc
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> -rw-------  1 abc   abc    276 Aug  5 09:33 .rhosts
> -rw-r--r--  1 abc   abc    975 Aug  5 09:33 .shrc
> 
> I've not modified any login* file in /etc
> 
> I've no idea what's the reason, also as it worked before.
> Any hints would be greatful.
> 
> Regards,
> Thomas.
> 

Reference to MERGEMASTER(8).

Cheer up!

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Hi,

Thu, Aug 05, 2004 at 10:20:18AM +0200
Thomas Krause <fq@chef-ingenieur.de> wrote:

> Hello,
> I've a big problem, that only root is able to login to a new FreeBSD 5.2.1
> box. Neither login nor su works. I've no local access to the machine.
> A ftp-login is possible for normal users.
> 
> mdm-online:/ # su - abc
> su: /bin/sh: Permission denied
> 
> mdm-online:/ # login abc
> Password:
> Copyright (c) 1992-2004 The FreeBSD Project.
> Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
>         The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
> 
> FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE-p9 (MDM-ONLINE) #1: Mon Jul 26 22:24:58 CEST 2004
> 
> Welcome to FreeBSD!
> 
> login: /bin/sh: No such file or directory
> 
> mdm-online:/ # ls -l /bin/sh
> -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  753872 Jul 26 10:18 /bin/sh
> mdm-online:/ # pw usershow abc
> abc:*:1003:1003::0:0:User &:/home/abc:/bin/sh
> mdm-online:/ # ls -ld /home/abc
> drwxr-xr-x  2 abc  abc  512 Aug  5 09:33 /home/abc
> mdm-online:/ # ls -la /home/abc
> total 20
> drwxr-xr-x  2 abc   abc    512 Aug  5 09:33 .
> drwxr-xr-x  7 root  wheel  512 Aug  5 09:34 ..
> -rw-r--r--  1 abc   abc    767 Aug  5 09:33 .cshrc
> -rw-r--r--  1 abc   abc    248 Aug  5 09:33 .login
> -rw-r--r--  1 abc   abc    158 Aug  5 09:33 .login_conf
> -rw-------  1 abc   abc    373 Aug  5 09:33 .mail_aliases
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> -rw-------  1 abc   abc    276 Aug  5 09:33 .rhosts
> -rw-r--r--  1 abc   abc    975 Aug  5 09:33 .shrc
> 
> I've not modified any login* file in /etc
> 
> I've no idea what's the reason, also as it worked before.
> Any hints would be greatful.
> 
> Regards,
> Thomas.
> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"

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I have an IBM thinkpad T40 running FreeBSD 4.10.  It does not support 
apm, and acpi made the system very flaky.  This hardly matters, since 
the BIOS suspend function still works.  However, when I open the lid, 
the system clock is set to the same time it was when I closed the lid. 
ie, close lid at 6:30pm, open lid at 9:00am next morning, and 'date' 
tells me the time is 6:31pm yesterday.

This seems to be a matter of the system time relying on timecounters 
only.  How do I disable this behavior, or have it use the CMOS clock?

Interesting sysctl values:
machdep.disable_rtc_set: 0
machdep.wall_cmos_clock: 1
machdep.i8254_freq: 1193182
machdep.tsc_freq: 1594833412
kern.timecounter.method: 0
kern.timecounter.hardware: TSC

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Ted Unangst wrote:
> This seems to be a matter of the system time relying on timecounters 
> only.  How do I disable this behavior, or have it use the CMOS clock?

After picking a better search phrase, it seems I'm having this problem:
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=63431

Any more insight appreciated.

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Hi,

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Background -  All was well until the boss upgraded the glibc on the
RedHat server which made all kinds of things unhappy.  Taking the
opportunity to convert yet another server here to FreeBSD, I built a new
DNS on FreeBSD 4.9. =20

=20

I have noticed a couple of odd things.

=20

Typing in /usr/sbin/named -v, gets me this:

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named 8.3.6-REL Mon Oct 27 14:55:35 GMT 2003

        root@freebsd-stable.sentex.ca:/usr/obj/usr/src/usr.sbin/named

=20

which totally doesn't look right since it should be bind 9 something or
other.  The package was /usr/ports/dns/bind9           =20

which stated in the package description that it would install BIND
version 9.  Either the binary doesn't know what version it is or the
package has something funky in it that's yielding the wrong version
number after compilation.

=20

=20

=20

Thanks,

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Ms. Jimi Thompson, CISSP

Manager, Web Operations

Cox School of Business

Southern Methodist University

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"What kind of peace do we seek? Not a 'Pax Americana' enforced on the
world by American weapons of war. Not the peace of the grave or the
security of a slave. I am talking about genuine peace, the kind of peace
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nations to grow and to hope and to build a better life for their
children-not merely peace for Americans, but peace for all men and
women; not merely peace in our time, but peace for all time." - John F.
Kennedy

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Andre Albsmeier wrote:

> On Tue, 03-Aug-2004 at 23:31:52 -0400, up@3.am wrote:
> 
>>Please cc replies directly to me, as I am not subscribed to the lists.
>>
>>With some help from here, I was able to get this RAID card to see our
>>external DLT (QUANTUM 4000) SCSI tape drive by installing the aacp (pass
>>through) driver in addition to the aac driver.  camcontrol now works, as
>>do basic mt commands and amcheck (amanda check).
>>
>>However, (amanda) dumps either hang, fail completely or fail after
>>transfering very little data.  On the console, I see:
>>
>>(sa0:aacp1:0:4:0): READ(06). CDB8 0 0 0 20 0 0
>>(sa0:aacp1:0:4:0): NO SENSE ILI (length mismatch): -24576 csi:0,0,0,1
>>
>>At this point the device is completely unresponsive, and the only way to
>>get the system to see it again is to reboot the whole server.  I tried
>>ordering a 3 ft cable, thinking I was pushing my luck with the 6 ft (I've
>>had this problem with SCSI cables in the past), but the problem persists.
>>
>>The same drive (which has an active terminator) has been working fine for
>>years on a different box using an Intel L440GX+ MB's on-board SCSI port.
>>
>>Once again, any helpful replies are greatly appreciated!
> 
> 
> Are you sure you are running a recent fw on your DLT4k? My DLTs
> used to behave badly with early fw revisions. Check out
> 
> http://www.quantum.com/am/service_support/downloads/software/dlt4000.htm
> 
> You can upgrade it by tape or use my software for updating the fw of
> SCSI devices on FreeBSD.
> 
> 	-Andre
> 

This sounds like excellent advice.  Note that the error messages that
you are seeing are coming from the Adaptec firmware, not FreeBSD or the
aac driver.  Also, the aacp device and backing firmware support are
really just hacks that exist to allow cdroms to be booted and drives to
be flashed with new firmware.  I've never heard of anyone running a tape
drive in this fashion, so it will be quite interesting to see if newer
firmware helps.

Scott

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I wanted to post this to the FreeBSD list.  We recently upgrade our BIND
server from 8.4.5 to 9.2.3.  Under the old BIND, we have everything
working.  Now, the new server isn't accepting updates from the servers
that it SHOULD be accepting updates from and it isn't allowing zone
transfers to the servers that should be getting zone transfers from it.


=20

I'd be happy to post the named.conf, if any one has any ideas. =20

=20

Thanks,

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Anyone ever try to use 3 BKTR capture cards in a single host?



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On Mon, Aug 02, 2004 at 06:34:25PM -0500, Thompson, Jimi wrote:
> I wanted to post this to the FreeBSD list.  We recently upgrade our BIND
> server from 8.4.5 to 9.2.3.  Under the old BIND, we have everything
> working.  Now, the new server isn't accepting updates from the servers
> that it SHOULD be accepting updates from and it isn't allowing zone
> transfers to the servers that should be getting zone transfers from it.

Bind 9 is a lot pickier about the syntax of configuration and zone
data files.  Unless everything is syntactically correct, BIND will
print warning messages into the system log and quit.  You will have to
update the named.conf file from Bind 8 before you can use it with Bind
9.

Look in the system log /var/log/messages for indications of where the
problems are.

	Cheers,

	Matthew

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> Background -  All was well until the boss upgraded the glibc on the
> RedHat server which made all kinds of things unhappy.  Taking the
> opportunity to convert yet another server here to FreeBSD, I built a new
> DNS on FreeBSD 4.9.
>
>
>
> I have noticed a couple of odd things.
>
>
>
> Typing in /usr/sbin/named -v, gets me this:
>
>
>
> named 8.3.6-REL Mon Oct 27 14:55:35 GMT 2003
>
>        root@freebsd-stable.sentex.ca:/usr/obj/usr/src/usr.sbin/named
>
>
>
> which totally doesn't look right since it should be bind 9 something or
> other.  The package was /usr/ports/dns/bind9
>
> which stated in the package description that it would install BIND
> version 9.  Either the binary doesn't know what version it is or the
> package has something funky in it that's yielding the wrong version
> number after compilation.


BIND 9 doesn't install to the same location as BIND 8.
BIND8 usually goes to /usr/sbin/named
BIND9 usually goes to /usr/local/sbin/named

You might want to doublecheck the "named_program" setting in your rc.conf 
to make sure it's pointing at the new location too.

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Is root's shell /bin/sh? If not, then something is wrong with /bin/sh.

You should have another shell available to do some comparison testing (eg. 
/bin/csh). Use vipw  to change the abc user's shell to say /bin/csh.

Can you now login as abc? If so, then something is wrong with /bin/sh. If 
not, then it implies that the problem is not specifically with /bin/sh.

Assume you can login as abc using /bin/csh. Try simply running /bin/sh. 
Does it work? If not, then again /bin/sh is broke somehow, replace it with 
/bin/sh from another identical system (I run 4.10, sorry...)

Gary


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hello all,

though several very kind individuals have tried to help me get my Iomega
USB Zip drive working, i haven't yet had any luck.  rather than continuing
a desperate troubleshooting via a boring series of lengthy messages, i
thought that i might try turning the tables by launching the following
appeal.


<><><><><><><><><><><><>

could anyone who has made their Iomega USB Zip work under 4.x, please post
how they did it?  (relevant config files, patches, whatever)

<><><><><><><><><><><><>



thank you,
epi


p.s.  for the curious, (most of my) previous posts on this matter should be
covered by the following threads:

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2004-July/051616.html
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2004-July/052008.html
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hardware/2004-July/001760.html

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Hi,

I've got a server running 5.21.  Last build/install world was about 6 =
weeks
ago.  Last 'portupgrade -a -R -r' was yesterday.

I'm been struggling to get Samba 3.05 installed and playing nicely via =
LDAP.
I think I've finally managed to get everything working properly as far =
as
Samba is concerned, however I have one problem and one question.

My problem is that users who *only* exist in the LDAP database can't =
seem to
SSH into the box.  Also, not only must users exist in /etc/passwd to
successfully SSH into the box but the order in while "files" and "ldap" =
are
listed in /etc/nsswitch.conf makes a difference, too.  "Files" must be
placed before "ldap" in /etc/nsswitch.conf for users to successfully SSH
into the box.  I don't understand why this is since the test account in
question has the same information in both LDAP and /etc/passwd (and the =
same
password, etc).

Other services such as POP3 and SMTP work just fine with users only in =
LDAP.

I suspect it's my /etc/pam.d/sshd configuration.  That file looks like =
this:

#
# $FreeBSD: src/etc/pam.d/sshd,v 1.15 2003/04/30 21:57:54 markm Exp $
#
# PAM configuration for the "sshd" service
#

# auth
auth            sufficient      /usr/local/lib/pam_ldap.so      no_warn
try_first_pass  debug
auth            required        pam_nologin.so          no_warn
auth            sufficient      pam_opie.so             no_warn
no_fake_prompts
auth            requisite       pam_opieaccess.so       no_warn =
allow_local
auth            required        pam_unix.so             no_warn
try_first_pass

# account
account         required        pam_login_access.so
account         required        pam_unix.so

# session
session         required        pam_permit.so

# password
password        required        pam_unix.so             no_warn
try_first_pass

Does anyone see anything in this file that would cause the behavior I'm
experiencing?

Lastly, my final general question is about FreeBSD's implementation of
/etc/nsswitch.conf.  I don't see support for shadow passwords.  Should a
FreeBSD box's /etc/nsswitch.conf file make any type of reference to =
shadow
passwords?

TIA,

--Sean.

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TO: Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.

Thank you for answer and your help.

A. H. BEY

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Hi!

The port graphics/aqsis doesn't compile because of an internal compiler bug.
A quick workaround is to compile with GCC 3.2 (maybe other versions work too, 
but I tried this one). There is still the problem that, at a later point, it 
fails because of an undefined reference to pthread_mutex_destroy and 
pthread_mutex_init. I solved it by adding -pthread to the command line.

With these two tricks it finally compiled and installed successfully. If this 
is acceptable, can someone edit the Makefile and add a newer GCC as 
dependency? Unfortunately, I'm still a newbie, so I don't know how to make a 
patch for this (well, I tried it, but that made the problem even worse).

Regards,
Daniela

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Greetings.

I'm seeing some weird output from the daily periodic cron jobs that run at 
night.  It's related to procmail but I can't figure out where in the 
scripts that it's causing it. Anyone seen this before?  running on 5.2.1 
p-9.  Ports and source update code nightly using cvsup.

Snip

Security check:
    (output mailed separately)
procmail: Unrecognised options: "s"
Usage: procmail [-vptoY] [-f fromwhom] [parameter=value | rcfile] ...
   Or: procmail [-toY] [-f fromwhom] [-a argument] ... -d recipient ...
   Or: procmail [-ptY] [-f fromwhom] -m [parameter=value] ... rcfile [arg] 
...
   Or: procmail [-toY] [-a argument] ... -z
Processing continued
procmail: Unknown user "atlas.obs2.net security run output"

End Snip.

The name "atlas.obs2.net" is the actual hostname the box I'm running on.  
-- 


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WRT a Direct Rendering Module for Intel i810 integrated video: Does it
exist?  http://people.freebsd.org/~anholt/dri/index.html would lead me to
believe it does not.  In that case, is it expected to?

Thanks,

Tom Embt

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In <20040804181012.71953.qmail@web20423.mail.yahoo.com>, DH <dhutch9999@yahoo.com> typed:
> I'm reposting this because I've not rec'd a response from the freebsd-fs mailing list yet and I need an answer fairly quickly.  Thanks be any who can help out!

The correct place to send this is freebsd-questions. I've added that
to the list, and pointed replies there as well.

> I've begun rec'ing these error messages:
>  
> ad0s1a: hard error reading fsbn 141935 of 70848 - 71103 (ad0s1 bn 141935; cn 8  tn 212  sn 59 ) status=59 error=40
>  
> Got about 7 of these with varying values.
>  
> I ran Seagate's diag utility and it reported only 1 bad sector (# 71099 ).  Unfortunately ad0s1a happens to my / dir so allowing the utility to write zeros to that block hasn't sat well with me.
>  
> Sooo - if some one could explain the exact meaning of my error message & point me in the right direction to use these values to fix my disk problem I'd greatly appreciate it
> (with many many many thanks in advance :) )

Modern drives deal with bad block substitution all by themselves. By
the time you've got blocks going bad that the OS sees, the drive is in
really sad shape. You should replace it with a new drive ASAP.

	<mike
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Hi
my name is schaballie jeroen=20
and i like to know what that i have to choose.

i have as video card an Hercules 3d propher 4000xt, but this model is =
not avaible in the database. what should i do to configure this =
correctly, because i've read and tried so much these days and i doesn't =
find it.

thx

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When you install FreeBSD, lots of useful documentation is installed in the 
articles and books directories under /usr/share/doc/ including the essential 
handbook.

Is there a way of automatically updating this documentation - I thought that 
maybe this was done as a part of cvsup, make buildworld, etc, but apparently 
not? I realise that I can download the latest version with FTP, but it would 
be nice if this could be done as part of the normal maintenance tasks.

Regards,

Tom Munro Glass

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I had a bit of a unique experience with my FreeBSD 5.2.1 server, and I 
thought I'd share it because I found a lot of my questions difficult to 
answer.

I have a Via C3 800 processor on this particular server, and I thought 
I'd recompile with the cpu flag set in make.conf.  dmesg reports this:

CPU: VIA C3 Ezra (800.03-MHz 686-class CPU)

So I set the flag to i686 (I would later learn that this processor only 
supports the i586/mmx flag) and did a make buildworld.  No problem 
here, but when I did make installworld, things went very wrong.

Errors and core dumps (illegal instruction) started raining down, and 
then I lost power and when I powered up, the server was a goner.

So I tried to log in from the serial console, but NOTHING worked.  In 
single user mode, I couldn't even run ls.

This is a big problem.

To begin fixing the system, I downloaded 5.2.1's disc2 iso and tried to 
log into the live filesystem shell, but sysinstall couldn't mount the 
CD.

I searched around and realized that I was using a CD drive that 
supports DMA, so I had to turn that on before booting up:

OK set hw.ata.ata_dma="1"
OK set  hw.ata.atapi_dma="1"
OK boot

Now I could get into the live filesystem, and I felt pretty good about 
my plan.  I wanted to overwrite /bin, /sbin, /usr/bin and /usr/sbin (as 
well as libexet, etc) from the live disc.

So first I had to mount the drives.

I tried to mount my root slice first and was greeted with some problems:

mount -w /dev/ad0s1a /mnt/root
Resulted in:
Operation Not Permitted

But I could mount my usr slice.  Again, with a bit of research, I 
realized that since these slices were dirty, they needed to be fsck'd 
before I could mount them.  I tried fsck, but that complained about a 
lack of fstab.  So I had to do a:

fsck_ffs -y /dev/ad0s1a

On each slice before I could mount.

Mounting worked fine once I had done this, so I tried to start copying 
files, and was greeted with more errors.  This time, again:

Operation Not Permitted

For each copy.  This seemed really confusing to me, and after a lot of 
internet research, I found that I needed to unset the system immutable 
flag.

chflags -R noschg /mnt/root
..etc

Now I could copy files from the fixit disc, and I was able to reboot 
and do a proper make build/installworld with i586/mmx.

So my system is back after many hours of frustration.  Hope this can 
help someone else out there.

Yours,
Ben Polidore

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Hello Everyone,

I need some help with this shell script.  I originally wrote it in ksh
and I not really familiar with bash.  However, that is what I'm using at
home now and I don't have ksh on any of my machines... Could you folks
help me convert this script to bash...I don't think the arithmatic
operator <bc> is a bash option.  It appears that is where the first bug
is at.

Please see the attached (encrypted/compressed) script for any additional
details.  You must import my public key to open the attached file.

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gpg --decrypt swap_mon.ksh.sig
**********************************************************

Thanks in advance

HZS
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Subject: Re: IPFW - Allowed but Denied is shown in my logs
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Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> On 2004-08-04 20:31, Srot BULL <pwd8jmr22w@me.point.ne.jp> wrote:
> 
>>>On 2004-08-04 17:13, Srot BULL <pwd8jmr22w@me.point.ne.jp> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Why are the above firewall logs telling me that it has denied my TCP
>>>>packets and yet I am not experiencing some problems in my emails and
>>>>access to the internet through port 80. [...]
>>>
>>>Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
>>>Show us the full ruleset.  Otherwise we're just guessing...
> 
>>$CMD 00240 allow tcp from me to any out via $IFN setup keep-state uid root
> Hmm.  I'm not sure if this is a good idea, but it's unrelated to the
> denied packets you're seeing :-/

I will RTFM about this...Thank you.

>>$CMD 00300 deny all from 192.168.0.0/16 to any in via $IFN
>>$CMD 00301 deny all from 172.16.0.0/12 to any in via $IFN
>>$CMD 00302 deny all from 10.0.0.0/8 to any in via $IFN 
> You might want to also deny incoming packets from these addresses, or fall
> back to the default firewall rule -- whatever that rule is ("deny log all"
> in your case).

I think I can do this...I guess...

>>$CMD 00305 deny all from 169.254.0.0/16 to any in via $IFN
> Hmmm, what is this address block supposed to be here for?

I am sorry, I only copied this ruleset from the article...I really need 
to get back in RTFM and read again the article...maybe I missed something.


>>#reserved for doc's#
>>$CMD 00307 deny all from 204.152.64.0/23 to any in via $IFN 
> And this one?

This one too...

> A better approach that will avoid forcing everyone to wait until their
> connections times out is to reply with an RST packet, which is the standard
> way TCP would reply if no auth/ident service was running at all.

I need some reading to understand what you just advised...Thank you.

> Fragments are not late-arriving packets ;-)
> 
> 
>>#* Reject & Log all incoming connections from the outside *#
>>$CMD 00499 deny log all from any to any in via $IFN
> This one is redundant, since it will only do the same as the one below:

OK...

>># Everything else is denied by default
>># DENY and LOG all packets that fell through to see what they are
>>$CMD 00999 deny log all from any to any
> 
> 
>>My basis for my rulesets are taken from:
>>http://freebsd.a1poweruser.com:6088/FBSD_firewall/
>  
> AFAIK, the author of the page is a reader of the list too.  I can't find
> anything wrong with the syntax of your rules.  The only weird thing I noticed
> were the two hard-wired address blocks I mentioned above.  Perhaps the author
> of the initial ruleset can help you more ;)

It was kind enough for the author to drop me an email...
and, thank you for your advices too...I will base my rulesets from yours 
and other peoples' advices, and re-read that article for a better 
understanding...and maybe I can tune my rulesets more to better fit my 
system.
Have a nice day...

SrotBULL

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I was contemplating banging together a quick script to find the fastest 
CVS mirrors which essentially tries to retrieve a small distribution from 
all the available CVS servers.  Does this seem like the type of thing that 
would be well-recieved into the base-distro or ports?  Or would it simply 
be seen as putting extra load on the CVS servers?

An optional thing I would be interested in putting in this is the ability 
to disfavor any server which was close to its access limit.  Is there any 
support in the protocol for knowing which user out of how many you are?

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Ian Smith wrote:

 > On Wed, 4 Aug 2004 freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org wrote:
 >  > Message: 11
 >  > From: Srot BULL <pwd8jmr22w@me.point.ne.jp>
 >
 >  > > Giorgos Keramidas wrote:  > > Show us the full ruleset. 
Otherwise we're just guessing...
 >  > >  > My apologies, below is my complete ruleset:
 >
 > [..]
 >
 >  > #* Deny ident *#
 >  > $CMD 00315 deny tcp from any to any in via $IFN
 > I think perhaps you meant:
 >   $CMD 00315 deny tcp from any to any 113 in via $IFN
 >
 > as yours denied all remaining TCP, making some rules below irrelevant,
 > including allows for www, ssh etc if you ever wanted to enable these.
 >
 > You'd also likely do better using reset rather than deny - assuming this
 > rule really was meant to block ident - to avoid timeout delays on mail.
 >  > #* Deny all Netbios service. 137=name, 138=datagram, 139=session *#
 >  > #* Netbios is MS/Windows sharing services. *#
 >  > #* Block MS/Windows hosts2 name server requests 81 *#
 >  > $CMD 00320 deny tcp from any to any 137 in via $IFN
 >  > $CMD 00321 deny tcp from any to any 138 in via $IFN
 >  > $CMD 00322 deny tcp from any to any 139 in via $IFN
 >  > $CMD 00323 deny tcp from any to any 81 in via $IFN
 >
 > None of these or any other tcp .. in via $IFN rules below are ever seen.
 >
 > [..]
 >  > #* Deny ACK packets that did not match the dynamic rule table *#
 >  > $CMD 00332 deny tcp from any to any established in via $IFN
 >
 > That rule is also not seen ..
 >
 > [..]
 >  > #* Reject & Log all incoming connections from the outside *#
 >  > $CMD 00499 deny log all from any to any in via $IFN
 >
 > .. nor that one, for TCP packets ..
 >
 >  > My basis for my rulesets are taken from:
 >  > http://freebsd.a1poweruser.com:6088/FBSD_firewall/
 >
 > Cheers, Ian


Thank you for your advices...
I will get myself a fairly dedicated time infront of my pc to better 
understand things.
You have a nice day...

SrotBULL

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Hello Everyone,

I need some help with this shell script.  I originally wrote it in ksh
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home now and I don't have ksh on any of my machines... Could you folks
help me convert this script to bash...I don't think the arithmatic
operator <bc> is a bash option.  It appears that is where the first bug
is at.

Please see the attached (encrypted/compressed) script for any additional
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gpg --decrypt swap_mon.ksh.sig
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Thanks in advance

HZS


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Oh great and wise FreeBSD gurus,

I've been running FreeBSD boxes for about five years with great 
results (up to 6 at the moment), but recently one of my machines has 
started to seriously act up.  Every time a heavy disk operation (say, 
tar'ing a 1 gig directory) occurs the system slows to a crawl, and 
requests to apache/php/mysql sites hosted on it just hang.

The system is a dual p3 1.13ghz box with a gig of ram and mirrored 80 
gig WD800BB drives on a Promise TX2 controller.  The raid isn't 
degraded.  There's a dedicated 1.5 gig swap partition and a swap file 
on the /usr partition.  We had some apache processes go nuts one 
time, which is why I added the swap file.

We run about 15 jails on the machine, with MySQL in the server proper 
and apache/php running inside the jails.  I initially thought it was 
a rogue process taking down the machine, but it seems to be that any 
heavy disk activity for more than a few minutes brings about the 
slowdown.  It doesn't happen instantly, but after a minute or two 
things will slow to a crawl.

I've recompiled the kernel a few times, upgraded to the latest 
4-STABLE rev, and even turned on device polling, but nothing seems to 
be helping.  It doesn't seem to happen on another machine we have 
with identical hardware.

My sysctl.conf:

kern.ipc.somaxconn=4096
net.inet.tcp.sendspace=32768
net.inet.tcp.recvspace=32768
net.inet.icmp.drop_redirect=1
net.inet.icmp.log_redirect=1
net.inet.ip.redirect=0
net.inet6.ip6.redirect=0
net.link.ether.inet.max_age=1200
net.inet.icmp.bmcastecho=0
net.inet.icmp.maskrepl=0
kern.maxfiles=65536
kern.ipc.shm_use_phys=1
kern.polling.enable=1

And a netstat -m:

301/928/131072 mbufs in use (current/peak/max):
         301 mbufs allocated to data
287/874/32768 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max)
1980 Kbytes allocated to network (2% of mb_map in use)
0 requests for memory denied
0 requests for memory delayed
0 calls to protocol drain routines

And here's a typical systat -v snapshot while the machine's 'ok':

     3 users    Load  0.32  0.38  0.31                  Aug  6 00:03

Mem:KB    REAL            VIRTUAL                     VN PAGER  SWAP PAGER
         Tot   Share      Tot    Share    Free         in  out     in  out
Act  221588   38656   747652   117796   39404 count    4           3
All 1024156   41620  1546136   144132         pages   18           5
                                                                  Interrupts
Proc:r  p  d  s  w    Csw  Trp  Sys  Int  Sof  Flt     21 cow    1156 total
      2     2 70       343  63322119 1156   57  397 186992 wire        fxp0 irq2
                                                    623848 act      13 
ohci0 irq9
  4.4%Sys   1.0%Intr  2.5%User  0.0%Nice 92.1%Idl   176096 inact    11 mux irq10
|    |    |    |    |    |    |    |    |    |      37220 cache       fdc0 irq6
==+>                                                 2184 free   1004 clk irq0
                                                           daefr   128 rtc irq8
Namei         Name-cache    Dir-cache                  15 prcfr
     Calls     hits    %     hits    %                   5 react
       126      125   99                                   pdwake
                                       340 zfod            pdpgs
Disks   ad4   ad6   fd0   md0         119 ofod          1 intrn
KB/t   0.00 16.72  0.00  0.00          34 %slo-z   114304 buf
tps       0    11     0     0         401 tfree       173 dirtybuf
MB/s   0.00  0.17  0.00  0.00                       70310 desiredvnodes
% busy    0     9     0     0                       64089 numvnodes
                                                     54829 freevnodes


And here's a systat -v snapshop while the machine's choking:

     4 users    Load  0.39  0.35  0.31                  Aug  6 00:08

Mem:KB    REAL            VIRTUAL                     VN PAGER  SWAP PAGER
         Tot   Share      Tot    Share    Free         in  out     in  out
Act  191344   34248   728736   117268   51916 count    1                6
All 1024676   37500  2075520   144188         pages    2               67
                                                                  Interrupts
Proc:r  p  d  s  w    Csw  Trp  Sys  Int  Sof  Flt     29 cow    1698 total
      5     2 70       573  74423171 1699  225  367 180904 wire        fxp0 irq2
                                                    640404 act     335 
ohci0 irq9
  5.7%Sys   1.9%Intr  7.5%User  0.0%Nice 84.9%Idl   153116 inact   236 mux irq10
|    |    |    |    |    |    |    |    |    |      50252 cache       fdc0 irq6
===+>>>>                                             1664 free    999 clk irq0
                                                           daefr   128 rtc irq8
Namei         Name-cache    Dir-cache                  93 prcfr
     Calls     hits    %     hits    %                   1 react
      8693     8196   94       12    0                     pdwake
                                       308 zfod       2693 pdpgs
Disks   ad4   ad6   fd0   md0         135 ofod            intrn
KB/t  98.81 16.61  0.00  0.00          43 %slo-z   114304 buf
tps      13   225     0     0        1277 tfree       278 dirtybuf
MB/s   1.23  3.64  0.00  0.00                       70310 desiredvnodes
% busy    2    99     0     0                       64089 numvnodes
                                                     52125 freevnodes


Thoughts?  Is there any way to force a machine to limit the 
monopolization of a disk controller by a process?

-- 

Jeff Kramer
jeffk@well.com
http://www.keika.org/

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Dear list
 
I just bought a Supermicro P4SCT.
The BIOS has an option called "MPS version" of the operating system.
Could someone tell me what the MPS version of FreeBSD 4.10 is, and maybe
what MPS actually means?!
 
TIA
 
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Probably not. Intel isn't going to keep exactly the same architecture as AM=
D=20
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Probably not. Intel isn't going to keep exactly the same architecture as AM=
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Dear list
 
Should CPUID maximum value be limited to 3 for FreeBSD 4.x?
How is it with FreeBSD 5x?
 
TIA
 
zheyu
 
 

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On 050804, 20:58, Brett Glass wrote:
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You should look at the IA64 port, not the AMD64.

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Where can I find the KDE theme manager (3.2.3)? Googling reveals that there 
will be a new one for 3.3, but what about 3.2.3? I can't find it in 
Control Center, and I can't find anything in ports. Although it's long ago
(probably KDE 2) I'm pretty sure that I once had a KDE theme manager.

Karel.

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I'm not completely sure what you mean, but if your client does not 
reconnect after a disconnect maybe you could try another client? I found 
irssi to be a good replacement for ircII in that regard..
Kind regards,
Alex.

cedrick.gaillard wrote:

>hi,
> 
>it's impossible for me to do irc resuming through may freebsd gateway.
>i was on freebsd 4.7 and i am now on freebsd 5.2.1 current and the
>problem persists on both versions.
> 
>someone have a good way to do irc resuming?
> 
>here is my natd.conf :
>log yes
>log_denied yes
>use_sockets yes
>same_ports yes
>interface xl0
>punch_fw 10000:20
>log_ipfw_denied yes
> 
>i use ipfw
>if my other computer is connected directly on internet, it have no
>problem.
> 
>Thanks
>cédrick
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Thank you but the problem is not my irc client, the problem is in
libalias(3).

I patched the source alias_irc.c with the patch found here :
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3Dbin/50310
The patch must not be applied at line 140 but at line 155 on -CURRENT

All works fine now.

thanks
c=E9drick gaillard
=20

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Nagilum [mailto:freebsd@nagilum.org]=20
> Envoy=E9 : vendredi 6 ao=FBt 2004 12:44
> =C0 : cedrick.gaillard
> Cc : freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Objet : Re: irc resuming through natd
>=20
> I'm not completely sure what you mean, but if your client=20
> does not reconnect after a disconnect maybe you could try=20
> another client? I found irssi to be a good replacement for=20
> ircII in that regard..
> Kind regards,
> Alex.
>=20
> cedrick.gaillard wrote:
>=20
> >hi,
> >=20
> >it's impossible for me to do irc resuming through may=20
> freebsd gateway.
> >i was on freebsd 4.7 and i am now on freebsd 5.2.1 current and the=20
> >problem persists on both versions.
> >=20
> >someone have a good way to do irc resuming?
> >=20
> >here is my natd.conf :
> >log yes
> >log_denied yes
> >use_sockets yes
> >same_ports yes
> >interface xl0
> >punch_fw 10000:20
> >log_ipfw_denied yes
> >=20
> >i use ipfw
> >if my other computer is connected directly on internet, it have no=20
> >problem.
> >=20
> >Thanks
> >c=E9drick
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=20
> >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
> >To unsubscribe, send any mail to=20
> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
> > =20
> >
>=20

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Hi,
	I'm thinking of building an Unreal Tournament 2004 server, and
am curious to know if anyone has it working on FreeBSD 5.2.1?  Any
suggestions, pointers, etc are welcome.

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I recently got my firewall up and configured (many thanks to JJB and everyone else for their help) and have been reading the daily security message from root with a great deal of interest.

My question is, when I see entries like this:

Aug  5 17:55:54 sara sshd[2099]: Failed password for root from 209.120.224.13
+port 40515 ssh2
Aug  5 17:55:55 sara sshd[2101]: Failed password for root from 209.120.224.13
+port 60426 ssh2
Aug  5 17:55:55 sara sshd[2103]: Failed password for root from 209.120.224.13
+port 54447 ssh2
Aug  5 17:55:59 sara sshd[2105]: Failed password for root from 209.120.224.13
+port 44460 ssh2

is it safe to assume someone has been trying to hack my system?

I did a whois search on the IP and it went to a provider in Colorado.

I'm asking because I'm curious - thanks again for everyone's help.

Jim C.

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Hello all,

I do a cvsup on ports-all daily, and the other day I noticed that 
openoffice-1.1.2 is being report as out of date and that the port has 1.1.3:

openoffice-1.1.2                    <   needs updating (port has 1.1.3)


So I did a '# portupgrade openoffice'

It seemed to compile and install just fine (no errors or problems), but 
now it crashes every time I run it.

As soon as I click on an openoffice window:

A pop-up window message reports

	"OpenOffice 1.1.2: An unrecoverable error has occurred. All modified 
files have been saved and and can probably be recovered at program restart."

If I start openoffice-1.1 from an xterm, I see the following output 
after the crash:

	crash_report: not found

	Fatal exception: signal 11
	Stack:
	Abort trap (core dumped)


I have replicated this on three different computers, all running 
5.2.1-RELEASE-p9.

Anybody else having this problem?

I've reported this to openoffice@freebsd.org and ports@freebsd.org, but 
have not seen or heard anything else.

Thanks for any feedback,

Duane Winner

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How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions.
===================================================

Last update $Date: 2003/03/09 22:09:31 $

This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD questions mailing list.  If
you got it in answer to a message you sent, it means that the sender
thinks that at least one of the following things was wrong with your
message:

- You left out a subject line, or the subject line was not appropriate.
- You formatted it in such a way that it was difficult to read.
- You asked more than one unrelated question in one message.
- You sent out a message with an incorrect date, time or time zone.
- You sent out the same message more than once.
- You sent an 'unsubscribe' message to FreeBSD-questions.

If you have done any of these things, there is a good chance that you
will get more than one copy of this message from different people.
Read on, and your next message will be more successful.

This document is also available on the web at
http://www.lemis.com/questions.html.

=====================================================================

Contents:

I:    Introduction
II:   How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions
III:  Should I ask -questions, -newbies or -hackers?
IV:   How to submit a question to FreeBSD-questions
V:    How to answer a question to FreeBSD-questions

I: Introduction
===============

This is a regular posting aimed to help both those seeking advice from
FreeBSD-questions (the "newcomers"), and also those who answer the
questions (the "hackers").

       Note that the term "hacker" has nothing to do with breaking
       into other people's computers.  The correct term for the latter
       activity is "cracker", but the popular press hasn't found out
       yet.  The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking
       security, and have nothing to do with it.

In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the
different viewpoints of the two groups.  The newcomers accused the
hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers
accused the newcomers of being stupid, unable to read plain English,
and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter.  Of
course, there's an element of truth in both these claims, but for the
most part these viewpoints come from a sense of frustration.

In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration
and help everybody get better results from FreeBSD-questions.  In the
following section, I recommend how to submit a question; after that,
we'll look at how to answer one.

II:  How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions
==============================================

When you subscribed to FreeBSD-questions, you got a welcome message
from Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG.  In this message, amongst other things, it
told you how to unsubscribe.  Here's a typical message:

  Welcome to the freebsd-questions mailing list!

  If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list,
  you can send mail to "Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG" with the following command
  in the body of your email message:

      unsubscribe freebsd-questions Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.de>

  Here's the general information for the list you've
  subscribed to, in case you don't already have it:

  FREEBSD-QUESTIONS               User questions
  This is the mailing list for questions about FreeBSD.  You should not
  send "how to" questions to the technical lists unless you consider the
  question to be pretty technical.

Normally, unsubscribing is even simpler than the message suggests: you
don't need to specify your mail ID unless it is different from the one
which you specified when you subscribed.

If Majordomo replies and tells you (incorrectly) that you're not on
the list, this may mean one of two things:

  1.  You have changed your mail ID since you subscribed.  That's where
      keeping the original message from majordomo comes in handy.  For
      example, the sample message above shows my mail ID as
      grog@lemis.de.  Since then, I have changed it to
      grog@lemis.com.  If I were to try to remove grog@lemis.com from
      the list, it would fail: I would have to specify the name with
      which I joined.

  2.  You're subscribed to a mailing list which is subscribed to
      FreeBSD-questions.  If that's the case, you'll have to figure out
      which one it is and get your name taken off that one.  If you're
      not sure which one it might be, check the headers of the
      messages you receive from freebsd-questions: maybe there's a
      clue there.

If you've done all this, and you still can't figure out what's going
on, send a message to Postmaster@FreeBSD.org, and he will sort things
out for you.  Don't send a message to FreeBSD-questions: they can't
help you.

III: Should I ask -questions, -newbies or -hackers?
===================================================

Two mailing lists handle general questions about FreeBSD,
FreeBSD-questions and FreeBSD-hackers.  In addition, the
FreeBSD-newbies list caters specifically for people who are new to
FreeBSD and may be having trouble getting used to the environment.  In
some cases, it's not really clear which group you should ask.  The
following criteria should help for 99% of all questions, however:

     If the question is of a general nature, first check whether this
     isn't a Frequently Asked Question (FAQ).  There's a list of these
     questions at
     http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/index.html,
     and also on your own system (once you've installed it) at
     /usr/share/doc/en/books/faq/index.html.  Check there, and if you
     don't find an answer, ask FreeBSD-questions.  Examples might be
     questions about installing FreeBSD or the use of a particular
     UNIX utility.

     If you think the question relates to a bug, but you're not sure,
     or you don't know how to look for it, send the message to
     FreeBSD-questions.

     If the question relates to a bug, and you're almost sure that
     it's a bug (for example, you can pinpoint the place in the code
     where it happens, and you maybe have a fix), then send the
     message to FreeBSD-hackers.  You should also enter a problem
     report with the send-pr utility.

     If the question relates to enhancements to FreeBSD, and you can
     make suggestions about how to implement them, then send the
     message to FreeBSD-hackers.

     If the question is of particularly technical nature, such as
     implementation details or suggestions for improvements, then send
     the message to FreeBSD-hackers.

     If you're new to FreeBSD, and the message is about your own
     relationship to FreeBSD, send the message to FreeBSD-newbies.

There are also a number of other specialized mailing lists, for
example FreeBSD-isp, which caters to the interests of ISPs (Internet
Service Providers) who run FreeBSD.  If you happen to be an ISP, this
doesn't mean you should automatically send your questions to
FreeBSD-isp.  The criteria above still apply, and it's in your
interest to stick to them, since you're more likely to get good
results that way.

IV:  How to submit a question
=============================

When submitting a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider the
following points:

  1.  Remember that nobody gets paid for answering a FreeBSD question.
      They do it of their own free will.  You can influence this free
      will positively by submitting a well-formulated question
      supplying as much relevant information as possible.  You can
      influence this free will negatively by submitting an incomplete,
      illegible, or rude question.  It's perfectly possible to send a
      message to FreeBSD-questions and not get an answer even if you
      follow these rules.  It's much more possible to not get an
      answer if you don't.  In the rest of this document, we'll look
      at how to get the most out of your question to
      FreeBSD-questions.

  2.  Not everybody who answers FreeBSD questions reads every message:
      they look at the subject line and decide whether it interests
      them.  Clearly, it's in your interest to specify a subject.
      ``FreeBSD problem'' or ``Help'' aren't enough.  If you provide
      no subject at all, many people won't bother reading it.  If your
      subject isn't specific enough, the people who can answer it may
      not read it.

  3.  When sending a new message, well, send a new message.  Don't
      reply to some other message, erase the old content and change
      the subject line.  That leaves an In-reply-to: header which many
      mail readers use to thread messages, so your message shows up as
      a reply to some other message.  People often delete messages a
      whole thread at a time, so apart from irritating people, you
      also run a chance of having the message deleted unread.

  4.  Format your message so that it is legible, and PLEASE DON'T
      SHOUT!!!!!.  We appreciate that a lot of people don't speak
      English as their first language, and we try to make allowances
      for that, but it's really painful to try to read a message
      written full of typos or without any line breaks.  A lot of
      badly formatted messages come from bad mailers or badly
      configured mailers.  The following mailers are known to send out
      badly formatted messages without you finding out about them:

      Eudora
      exmh
      Microsoft Exchange
      Microsoft Internet Mail
      Microsoft Outlook
      Netscape

      As you can see, the mailers in the Microsoft world are frequent
      offenders.  If at all possible, use a UNIX mailer.  If you must
      use a mailer under Microsoft environments, make sure it is set
      up correctly.  Try not to use MIME: a lot of people use mailers
      which don't get on very well with MIME.

      For further information on this subject, check out
      http://www.lemis.com/email.html.

  5.  Make sure your time and time zone are set correctly.  This may
      seem a little silly, since your message still gets there, but
      many of the people you are trying to reach get several hundred
      messages a day.  They frequently sort the incoming messages by
      subject and by date, and if your message doesn't come before the
      first answer, they may assume they missed it and not bother to
      look.

  6.  Don't include unrelated questions in the same message.  Firstly,
      a long message tends to scare people off, and secondly, it's
      more difficult to get all the people who can answer all the
      questions to read the message.

  7.  Specify as much information as possible.  This is a difficult
      area, and we need to expand on what information you need to
      submit, but here's a start:

         If you get error messages, don't say ``I get error
         messages'', say (for example) ``I get the error message 'No
         route to host'''.

         If your system panics, don't say ``My system panicked'', say
         (for example) ``my system panicked with the message 'free
         vnode isn't'''.

         If you have difficulty installing FreeBSD, please tell us
         what hardware you have.  In particular, it's important to
         know the IRQs and I/O addresses of the boards installed in
         your machine.

         If you have difficulty getting PPP to run, describe the
         configuration.  Which version of PPP do you use? What kind of
         authentication do you have? Do you have a static or dynamic
         IP address? What kind of messages do you get in the log file?

  8.  If you don't get an answer immediately, or if you don't even see
      your own message appear on the list immediately, don't resend
      the message.  Wait at least 24 hours.  The FreeBSD mailer
      offloads messages to a number of subordinate mailers around the
      world, and sometimes it can take several hours for the mail to
      get through.  And once it gets through, the one person who might
      know the answer will probably just have gone to bed in his part
      of the world.

  9.  If you do all this, and you still don't get an answer, there
      could be other reasons.  For example, the problem is so
      complicated that nobody knows the answer, or the person who does
      know the answer was offline.  If you don't get an answer after,
      say, a week, it might help to re-send the message.  If you don't
      get an answer to your second message, though, you're probably
      not going to get one from this forum.  Resending the same
      message again and again will only make you unpopular.

To summarize, let's assume you know the answer to the following
question (yes, it's the same one in each case :-).  You choose which of
these two questions you would be more prepared to answer:


Message 1:
Subject: (none)

I just can't get hits damn silly FereBSD system to workd, and Im really good at this tsuff, but I have never seen anythign sho difficult to install, it jst wont work whatever I try so why don't y9ou guys tell me what I doing wrong.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Message 2:
Subject: Problems installing FreeBSD

I've just got the FreeBSD 2.1.5 CD-ROM from Walnut Creek, and I'm
having a lot of difficulty installing it.  I have a 66 MHz 486 with 16
MB of memory and an Adaptec 1540A SCSI board, a 1.2GB Quantum Fireball
disk and a Toshiba 3501XA CD-ROM drive.  The installation works just
fine, but when I try to reboot the system, I get the message "Missing
Operating System".

----------------------------------------------------------------------

V: How to follow up to a question
=================================

Often you will want to send in additional information to a question
you have already sent.  The best way to do this is to reply to your
original message.  This has three advantages:

1.  You include the original message text, so people will know what
    you're talking about.  Don't forget to trim unnecessary text out,
    though.

2.  The text in the subject line stays the same (you did remember to
    put one in, didn't you?).  Many mailers will sort messages by
    subject.  This helps group messages together.

3.  The message reference numbers in the header will refer to the
    previous message.  Some mailers, such as mutt, can thread messages,
    showing the exact relationships between the messages.

VI: How to answer a question
============================

Before you answer a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider:

1.  A lot of the points on submitting questions also apply to
    answering questions.  Read them.

2.  Has somebody already answered the question?  The easiest way to
    check this is to sort your incoming mail by subject: then
    (hopefully) you'll see the question followed by any answers, all
    together.

    If somebody has already answered it, it doesn't automatically mean
    that you shouldn't send another answer.  But it makes sense to
    read all the other answers first.

3.  Do you have something to contribute beyond what has already been
    said?  In general, "Yeah, me too" answers don't help much,
    although there are exceptions, like when somebody is describing a
    problem he's having, and he doesn't know whether it's his fault or
    whether there's something wrong with the hardware or software.  If
    you do send a "me too" answer, you should also include any further
    relevant information.

4.  Are you sure you understand the question? Very frequently, the
    person who asks the question is confused or doesn't express
    himself very well.  Even with the best understanding of the system,
    it's easy to send a reply which doesn't answer the question.  This
    doesn't help: you'll leave the person who submitted the question
    more frustrated or confused than ever.  If nobody else answers, and
    you're not too sure either, you can always ask for more
    information.

5.  Are you sure your answer is correct?  If not, wait a day or so.
    If nobody else comes up with a better answer, you can still reply
    and say, for example, "I don't know if this is correct, but since
    nobody else has replied, why don't you try replacing your ATAPI
    CD-ROM with a frog?".

6.  Unless there's a good reason to do otherwise, reply to the sender
    and to FreeBSD-questions.  Many people on the FreeBSD-questions
    are "lurkers": they learn by reading messages sent and replied to
    by others.  If you take a message which is of general interest off
    the list, you're depriving these people of their information.  Be
    careful with group replies; lots of people send messages with
    hundreds of CCs.  If this is the case, be sure to trim the Cc:
    lines appropriately.

7.  Include relevant text from the original message. Trim it to the
    minimum, but don't overdo it. It should still be possible for
    somebody who didn't read the original message to understand what
    you're talking about.

8.  Use some technique to identify which text came from the original
    message, and which text you add. I personally find that prepending
    ``> '' to the original message works best. Leaving white space
    after the ``> '' and leave empty lines between your text and the
    original text both make the result more readable.

9.  Put your response in the correct place (after the text to which it
    replies). It's very difficult to read a thread of responses where
    each reply comes before the text to which it replies.

10.  Most mailers change the subject line on a reply by prepending a
     text such as ``Re: ''. If your mailer doesn't do it
     automatically, you should do it manually.

11.  If the submitter didn't abide by format conventions (lines too
     long, inappropriate subject line), please fix it.  In the case of
     an incorrect subject line (such as ``HELP!!??''), change the
     subject line to (say) ``Re: Difficulties with sync PPP (was:
     HELP!!??)''. That way other people trying to follow the thread
     will have less difficulty following it.

     In such cases, it's appropriate to say what you did and why you
     did it, but try not to be rude.  If you find you can't answer
     without being rude, don't answer.

     If you just want to reply to a message because of its bad format,
     just reply to the submitter, not to the list.  You can just send
     him this message in reply, if you like.

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The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page
or any other online documentation.  The result is that most leading edge
computer books are out of date almost before they are printed.  Unfortunately,
The Complete FreeBSD, published by O'Reilly, is no exception.  Inevitably, a
number of bugs and changes have surfaced.

"The Complete FreeBSD" has been through a total of five editions, including its
predecessor "Installing and Running FreeBSD".  Two of these have been reprinted
with corrections.  I maintain a series of errata pages.  Start at
http://www.lemis.com/errata-4.html to find out how to get the errata
information.

Have you found a problem with the book, or maybe something confusing?  Please
let me know: I'm constantly updating it.

Greg

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I haven't seen any activity since 9 or so last night, and its after
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 9:29 PM
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> Hello
> 
> I am running zebra in freebsd 5.2 as router
> 
> Can you teach me how to optimize the box to designate
> router only?
> 
> I don't need to run any application
> 
> and Which command to monitor and box performance and
> the network also
>the top command will give you performance information.

For real time network monitoring try iftop and trafshow in ports

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On 2004-08-03, Maksym Marchenko <marchenk@in.tum.de> wrote:
> And what you can do with "headless" PC? Can you control this PC only in
> command prompt? Or (may be) you can use anything like X - twm?
>


Sure. You would use the headless machine to run X clients.

I have a headless PC that serves X sessions for a dozen thin
terminals. The server actually has video if I need to access
the console (I do not have a serial console set up) but I almost
never have a monitor or keyboard attached to the system.


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On 2004-08-03, Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> wrote:
> Anyone have a tip on using rrestore with ssh instead
> of the rexecd and rcmd facility?  My attempts at using
> rrestore result in 
>
> dhcp-78-74:kargl[207] rrestore -x -b 64 -f troutmask:/dev/nsa0
> Connection to troutmask.apl.washington.edu established.
> IP_TOS:IPTOS_THROUGHPUT setsockopt: Operation not supported
> TCP_NODELAY setsockopt: Operation not supported
> rshd: Login incorrect.
> Lost connection to remote host.
> dhcp-78-74:kargl[208]
>
> On troutmask, I have uncommented the appropriate inetd.conf
> lines that should allow rmt, rdump, and rrestore to work.
>


Have you read the handbook section on backups?
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/backup-basics.html

My take is that it may be easier to just use restore instead
of rrestore.


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Hi!

I've been using Wingate for months now to distribute an internet
connection among 10 users (NAT). Stunned by regular failures of Windows
2000, Wingate and other evil software, I decided to switch to FreeBSD. I
read the handbook and about 3000 more pages of manuals / how-to's /
guides. I set up FreeBSD with all applications I currently need for
server tasks.

I now need to test some applications, while keeping a part of the load
on the Wingate machine. What I want to do is connect to internet via
ADSL, using the bsd box, and let Wingate use the connection through the
box.

What is the best way to retain most of the NAT functionality?
If you are happy to not know what Wingate is, try to assume that it is
just another nat-box. Can bsd somehow "forward" connection, so that the
nat-box almost feels like it has a real IP?

Best regards,
Andrew

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On Fri, Aug 06, 2004 at 03:41:19PM +1200, Tom Munro Glass wrote:
> When you install FreeBSD, lots of useful documentation is installed in th=
e=20
> articles and books directories under /usr/share/doc/ including the essent=
ial=20
> handbook.
>=20
> Is there a way of automatically updating this documentation - I thought t=
hat=20
> maybe this was done as a part of cvsup, make buildworld, etc, but apparen=
tly=20
> not? I realise that I can download the latest version with FTP, but it wo=
uld=20
> be nice if this could be done as part of the normal maintenance tasks.

Yes, you can update the doc sources using cvsup(1), and build them
locally.  You need to install one of the textproc/docproj ports
(install one with jadetex if you want to be able to create PDF
output), and use a supfile like so:

    *default host=3DCHANGE_THIS.FreeBSD.org
    *default base=3D/usr
    *default prefix=3D/usr
    *default release=3Dcvs tag=3D.
    *default delete use-rel-suffix
    *default compress
   =20
    doc-all

A handy way of doing that is simply to make the following settings in
/etc/make.conf:

    SUP_UPDATE=3D     yes
    #
    SUP=3D            /usr/local/bin/cvsup
    SUPFLAGS=3D       -g -L 2
    SUPHOST=3D        CHANGE_THIS.FreeBSD.org
    SUPFILE=3D        /usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile
    PORTSSUPFILE=3D   /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile
    DOCSUPFILE=3D     /usr/share/examples/cvsup/doc-supfile

Then you can just type 'make update' in either /usr/src or in /usr/doc
to pull down the latest sources.

Note that will bring down the sources for all of the different
language versions of the docs. If you just want the English versions,
you can use a refuse file like:

    doc/bn_*
    doc/da_*
    doc/de_*
    doc/el_*
    doc/es_*
    doc/fr_*
    doc/it_*
    doc/ja_*
    doc/nl_*
    doc/no_*
    doc/pl_*
    doc/pt_*
    doc/ru_*
    doc/sr_*
    doc/tr_*
    doc/zh_*

As ever, start by reading the documentation, in this the FreeBSD
Documentation Project Primer:

    http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/index.html

Note that locally built copies of the documentation end up somewhere
below /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1, unlike the copy of the handbook
installed with the system in /usr/share/doc

	Cheers,

	Matthew

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On Fri, Aug 06, 2004 at 01:28:04AM -0400, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote:
> I was contemplating banging together a quick script to find the fastest=
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t=20
> would be well-recieved into the base-distro or ports?  Or would it simply=
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> be seen as putting extra load on the CVS servers?

What? Like /usr/ports/sysutils/fastest_cvsup/ ?  You'ld be reinventing
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> An optional thing I would be interested in putting in this is the ability=
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> to disfavor any server which was close to its access limit.  Is there any=
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> support in the protocol for knowing which user out of how many you are?

Not so far as I know.  However, a machine with too many active cvsup
clients will tend to slow down quite significantly, so the 'find
fastest server' type script above generally steers you towards the
more lightly loaded servers.

	Cheers,

	Matthew

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Hi,
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> 
> I was contemplating banging together a quick script to find the fastest 
> CVS mirrors which essentially tries to retrieve a small distribution from 
> all the available CVS servers.  Does this seem like the type of thing that 
> would be well-recieved into the base-distro or ports?  Or would it simply 
> be seen as putting extra load on the CVS servers?

The problem is that the response you would get would be only valid
for where you are running the script.   Every host in the world would
get different results, because they would have different conditions
and connections.    

Having one person running something like that wouldn't put much
load on anything, but, if everyone in FreeBSD land fired something
like that up everytime they were to download stuff, it was add 
unnecessary load.

> An optional thing I would be interested in putting in this is the ability 
> to disfavor any server which was close to its access limit.  Is there any 
> support in the protocol for knowing which user out of how many you are?
> 
> -Dan Mahoney
> 
> --
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Mike Meyer wrote:

> Modern drives deal with bad block substitution all by themselves.

Umm - not quite, right?  That is, if a block "goes bad" and you get
a read error, the drive isn't going to do any "substituting" at that
point.  You'll just continue to get the read error if you try to
access (read) that block.  It's only when you allow another *write*
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files) that the drive will automatically substitute a spare block
for the one that went bad.

> By
> the time you've got blocks going bad that the OS sees, the drive is in
> really sad shape. You should replace it with a new drive ASAP.

If, after you have (for certain!) overwritten the bad block(s) and
you still get errors, then yes the drive is on its way out.  But
simply getting a read error (without any overwrite attempt) from
a block or two doesn't necessarily mean that the drive is turning
to mush, now does it?

Gary

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Tom Munro Glass wrote:

>When you install FreeBSD, lots of useful documentation is installed in the 
>articles and books directories under /usr/share/doc/ including the essential 
>handbook.
>
>Is there a way of automatically updating this documentation - I thought that 
>maybe this was done as a part of cvsup, make buildworld, etc, but apparently 
>not? I realise that I can download the latest version with FTP, but it would 
>be nice if this could be done as part of the normal maintenance tasks.
>
>Regards,
>
>Tom Munro Glass
>  
>

You'd do it in similar fashion; in fact you could rather easily
script it, I suppose.

$cvsup doc-all[*]  
$cd /usr/doc && make install clean

*see /usr/share/examples/cvsup/doc-supfile for details.

HTH,

Kevin Kinsey
DaleCo, S.P.

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On Fri, Aug 06, 2004 at 03:41:19PM +1200, Tom Munro Glass wrote:
> When you install FreeBSD, lots of useful documentation is installed in th=
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> Is there a way of automatically updating this documentation - I thought t=
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> maybe this was done as a part of cvsup, make buildworld, etc, but apparen=
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> not? I realise that I can download the latest version with FTP, but it wo=
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> be nice if this could be done as part of the normal maintenance tasks.

You can get the latest version of hte docs using CVSup.  This is the
CVSUP file I use for that very purpose:

## BEGIN
*default host=3Dcvsup.uk.FreeBSD.org
*default base=3D/usr
*default prefix=3D/usr
*default release=3Dcvs tag=3D.
*default delete use-rel-suffix
*default compress
doc-all
## END

Naturally, you will want to change the host=3D to one near to you.

To have the docs updated when you do a `make update', you need to ensure
that you have `DOCSUPFILE=3D/path/to/doc-supfile' set in /etc/make.conf.

To save time and disk space, you can also tell the build system to only
build docs in one language, using `DOC_LANG=3Den_US.ISO8859-1' in
/etc/make.conf

Once you have gotten the latest sources,=20

# cd /usr/doc
# make all install clean

and all should be well.  Note that you will need to install the
textproc/docproj port to be able to build the docs from the source.  You
can get more info at
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/

HTH

Dan

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In the last episode (Aug 06), Gary Corcoran said:
> Mike Meyer wrote:
> 
> >Modern drives deal with bad block substitution all by themselves.
> 
> Umm - not quite, right?  That is, if a block "goes bad" and you get a
> read error, the drive isn't going to do any "substituting" at that
> point.  You'll just continue to get the read error if you try to
> access (read) that block.  It's only when you allow another *write*
> to that block (e.g. by deleting the original file and writing new
> files) that the drive will automatically substitute a spare block for
> the one that went bad.

SCSI drives, at least, may do automatic reallocation on both reads and
writes ( camcontrol mode da0 -m 1, the ARRE and AWRE flags ).  If the
drive had to reread the block or had to use ECC to recover data, AND
the entire block was recovered, it will relocate the data if ARRE is
set.

-- 
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On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 02:55:15PM -0600, Sandbox Video Productions wrote:
> Starting KDE I always get this message. Then it just
> stalls
> 
> Sound server informational message:
> Error while ititializing the sound driver:
> device /dev/dsp can't be opened (Device not
> configured)
> The sound server will continue using the null output device

I used to get that error when I started KDE without having
loaded the driver for my sound card.  However the impact was
just that I couldn't hear any sound; KDE still started and
ran well (but quietly).

Depending on what sound card you have, it is likely that you
will want to add the following to /boot/loader.conf:

snd_pcm_enable="YES"

That's assuming that you don't have it compiled into the kernel
(it isn't by default).  However, while that should fix the error
message when KDE loads, it probably won't resolve whatever is
causing KDE to stall.  Still, you have to take things one at a
time.

-- 
Danny MacMillan

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Tom Munro Glass <gentoo@tmgcon.com> writes:

> When you install FreeBSD, lots of useful documentation is installed in the 
> articles and books directories under /usr/share/doc/ including the essential 
> handbook.
> 
> Is there a way of automatically updating this documentation - I thought that 
> maybe this was done as a part of cvsup, make buildworld, etc, but apparently 
> not? I realise that I can download the latest version with FTP, but it would 
> be nice if this could be done as part of the normal maintenance tasks.

You can build it from source (see the Documentation Project Handbook),
but it would be a lot less work to just download the prebuilt ones.
It should be a pretty simple matter to do that in a script that you
can add to your "normal maintenance tasks."

Note that building the documentation requires you to install quite a
bit of software.  There's a port for it, of course, but if you're not
going to use jadetex (as one obvious example) for anything else, it's
overkill.  Especially if you're not going to try modifying the docs,
but just build them occasionally.

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Good Afternoon All,

4.x boots/installs and works fine on my notebook (Toshiba Portege 3500), but
no version of 5.x has successfully booted (with/without ASPI, safe mode,
etc), but the strange thing is that if I load VMWare or VirtualPC 2004 and
try to install FreeBSD 5.x into the VM it also does not survive the boot up?

I was hoping that maybe someone has been able to get the Portege to boot,
and could help with advise.

Many thanks!

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On Fri, Aug 06, 2004 at 08:26:01AM -0500, James A. Coulter wrote:
> I recently got my firewall up and configured (many thanks to JJB and everyone else for their help) and have been reading the daily security message from root with a great deal of interest.
> 
> My question is, when I see entries like this:
> 
> Aug  5 17:55:54 sara sshd[2099]: Failed password for root from 209.120.224.13
> +port 40515 ssh2
> Aug  5 17:55:55 sara sshd[2101]: Failed password for root from 209.120.224.13
> +port 60426 ssh2
> Aug  5 17:55:55 sara sshd[2103]: Failed password for root from 209.120.224.13
> +port 54447 ssh2
> Aug  5 17:55:59 sara sshd[2105]: Failed password for root from 209.120.224.13
> +port 44460 ssh2
> 
> is it safe to assume someone has been trying to hack my system?
> 
> Jim C.

Hi Jim, 

Yeah, I get these all the time.  I've always chalked it up to random
script kiddies.  Sometimes i get people trying to log in as generic
usernames like admin, guest, etc.  Make sure that PermitRootLogin is
either set to no or commented out in /etc/ssh/sshd_config, and of course
make sure you are using a good root password.

Now, if you really want to work yourself up, start browsing your
httpd-access logs :)

-dan

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Dan Nelson wrote:

> In the last episode (Aug 06), Gary Corcoran said:
> 
>>Mike Meyer wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Modern drives deal with bad block substitution all by themselves.
>>
>>Umm - not quite, right?  That is, if a block "goes bad" and you get a
>>read error, the drive isn't going to do any "substituting" at that
>>point.  You'll just continue to get the read error if you try to
>>access (read) that block.  It's only when you allow another *write*
>>to that block (e.g. by deleting the original file and writing new
>>files) that the drive will automatically substitute a spare block for
>>the one that went bad.
> 
> 
> SCSI drives, at least, may do automatic reallocation on both reads and
> writes ( camcontrol mode da0 -m 1, the ARRE and AWRE flags ).  If the
> drive had to reread the block or had to use ECC to recover data, AND
> the entire block was recovered, it will relocate the data if ARRE is
> set.

Good to know, although I stopped buying SCSI disks (for home use)
years ago.  I presumed the more common case these days, that we
were talking about IDE disks.  In fact doesn't this (from the original
question):

ad0s1a: hard error

necessarily refer to an ATA (IDE) disk?  I don't believe any (current)
ATA disks will do automatic reallocation on reads, will they?  Though
of course serial ATA drives seem to be "the future" and are taking
on more and more SCSI-like features as time goes by.

Gary

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On Aug 6, 2004, at 2:42 AM, Massimiliano Stucchi wrote:

> On 050804, 20:58, Brett Glass wrote:
>> http://eetimes.com/semi/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=26805631
>
> You should look at the IA64 port, not the AMD64.
>

Why?  This Intel chip referenced is NOT an IA64 architecture.  It is 
Intels EM64T 64/32 bit architecture based on Xeon/P4 and "compatible" 
with the AMD64 stuff

Chad

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Hello James:

Thats just letting you know that someone from that IP Address tried to
access your system using the root account and the password they provided
failed to authenticate.

Could've been an ssh scanner or something of that nature.

Most likely script kiddies.  

Make sure you do not allow root to login via ssh by setting your
sshd_config PermitRootLogin no.

Use sudo or su - instead.

or you can always use key-based authentication.


Lester A. Mesa
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On Fri, 2004-08-06 at 08:26, James A. Coulter wrote:
> I recently got my firewall up and configured (many thanks to JJB and everyone else for their help) and have been reading the daily security message from root with a great deal of interest.
> 
> My question is, when I see entries like this:
> 
> Aug  5 17:55:54 sara sshd[2099]: Failed password for root from 209.120.224.13
> +port 40515 ssh2
> Aug  5 17:55:55 sara sshd[2101]: Failed password for root from 209.120.224.13
> +port 60426 ssh2
> Aug  5 17:55:55 sara sshd[2103]: Failed password for root from 209.120.224.13
> +port 54447 ssh2
> Aug  5 17:55:59 sara sshd[2105]: Failed password for root from 209.120.224.13
> +port 44460 ssh2
> 
> is it safe to assume someone has been trying to hack my system?
> 
> I did a whois search on the IP and it went to a provider in Colorado.
> 
> I'm asking because I'm curious - thanks again for everyone's help.
> 
> Jim C.
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chip <chip@wiegand.org> writes:

> I just set up a new box using FreeBSD-5.2 and install cvsup. Now when I 
> run cvsup I get this -
> 
> chip3# cvsup ports-supfile
> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
> Xlib: No protocol specified
> 
> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
> Xlib: No protocol specified
> 
> Lost the connection to the X server
> 
> I have this in my /etc/hosts file (probably more than necessary, but I 
> was just trying to cover all my bases) -
> #
> ::1                     localhost localhost.wiegand.org
> 127.0.0.1               localhost localhost.wiegand.org
> 192.168.0.7             chip3.wiegand.org
> 127.0.0.1               chip3   chip3.wiegand.org
> 10.0.0.1                chip3   chip3.wiegand.org
> #
> 
> What have I screwed up and how do I fix it?

Do you *want* the GUI?  If so, what do you have in your DISPLAY
variable?  If not, why not just specify the '-g' option?

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On Fri, 6 Aug 2004 luu_subscription@earthlink.net wrote:

> Can you use ports/sysutils/fastest_cvsup?

Thanks, all, for pointing that out to me.

Clearly, I wasn't the first to have this idea.

-Dan


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On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Hakim Z. Singhji wrote:
> You must import my public key to open the attached file.

Why?  Why not just attach the plain file?


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On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, J. Kenney wrote:

> Good Afternoon All,
>
> 4.x boots/installs and works fine on my notebook (Toshiba Portege 3500), but
> no version of 5.x has successfully booted (with/without ASPI, safe mode,
> etc), but the strange thing is that if I load VMWare or VirtualPC 2004 and
> try to install FreeBSD 5.x into the VM it also does not survive the boot up?
>
> I was hoping that maybe someone has been able to get the Portege to boot,
> and could help with advise.

Sorry to add a me too, but sadly I can only add that the portege A100 has
the same problems. however it runs 4.x very well with or without acpi.
(would like project evil for the wireless though.)

Vince

>
> Many thanks!
>
> J. Kenney
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On Saturday 07 August 2004 07:44, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
> You can build it from source (see the Documentation Project Handbook),
> but it would be a lot less work to just download the prebuilt ones.
> It should be a pretty simple matter to do that in a script that you
> can add to your "normal maintenance tasks."
>
> Note that building the documentation requires you to install quite a
> bit of software.  There's a port for it, of course, but if you're not
> going to use jadetex (as one obvious example) for anything else, it's
> overkill.  Especially if you're not going to try modifying the docs,
> but just build them occasionally.

Thanks to all who replied - this list is SO helpful.

Tom

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On Fri, Aug 06, 2004, Gary Corcoran wrote:
> Dan Nelson wrote:
> 
> >In the last episode (Aug 06), Gary Corcoran said:
> >
> >>Mike Meyer wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Modern drives deal with bad block substitution all by themselves.
> >>
> >>Umm - not quite, right?  That is, if a block "goes bad" and you get a
> >>read error, the drive isn't going to do any "substituting" at that
> >>point.  You'll just continue to get the read error if you try to
> >>access (read) that block.  It's only when you allow another *write*
> >>to that block (e.g. by deleting the original file and writing new
> >>files) that the drive will automatically substitute a spare block for
> >>the one that went bad.
> >
> >
> >SCSI drives, at least, may do automatic reallocation on both reads and
> >writes ( camcontrol mode da0 -m 1, the ARRE and AWRE flags ).  If the
> >drive had to reread the block or had to use ECC to recover data, AND
> >the entire block was recovered, it will relocate the data if ARRE is
> >set.
> 
> Good to know, although I stopped buying SCSI disks (for home use)
> years ago.  I presumed the more common case these days, that we
> were talking about IDE disks.  In fact doesn't this (from the original
> question):
> 
> ad0s1a: hard error
> 
> necessarily refer to an ATA (IDE) disk?  I don't believe any (current)
> ATA disks will do automatic reallocation on reads, will they?  Though
> of course serial ATA drives seem to be "the future" and are taking
> on more and more SCSI-like features as time goes by.

Both ATA and SCSI drives may relocate blocks that were difficult
to read (e.g. correctable errors, took multiple attempts, etc).
But if the block can't be recovered at all, the drive will still
report an error to the OS (in addition to relocation).

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Just tried installing FreeBSD 4.10 on a Dell PowerEdge 650.   No
problems with the install, tried creating a partition with
"dangerously dedicated" and also, just using the entire disk with
standard bootmanager.

Each time, after the initial reboot I get an error:

Mounting root from ufs:ad0s1a
Root mount failed: 6
Mounting root from ufs:ad0a
Root mount failed: 6

Manual root filesystem specification:
<fstype>:<device> Mount <device> using filesystem <fstype>
eg. ufs:/dev/da0s1a
? List valid disk boot devices
<empty line> Abort manual input

mountroot> 

I tried:

mountroot> ufs:/dev/ad4s1a

but that fails too.


The disk is a Seagate 120GB and it's actually ad4, not ad0.  If I
interrupt the boot process at:

>>FreeBSD/i386 BOOT
Default: 0:ad(0,a)/kernel
boot:

and enter:

>>FreeBSD/i386 BOOT
Default: 0:ad(0,a)/kernel
boot: 0:ad(4,a)/kernel

the machine will boot properly.   I've tried two things I found while
checking on this:

1.  Adding to loader.conf:
rootdev="disk4s1a"
root_disk_unit=0"

2.  Rebuilding the kernel and adding:
options        ROOTDEVNAME=\"ufs:ad4s1a\"


Neither of which worked.    Is there something I'm missing while doing
the installation?   If I look in  /dev   the devices are there ad4,
ad4s1, ad4s1a, ad4s1b, etc.

About at wit's end ... any help would be great.

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I'm confused, and I ask for your collective help.

I successfully built a FreeBSD system using defaults. It works fine, 
so far. I will start over and rebuild the system now, carefully 
documenting each step. I will make some changes the second time. What 
I have right now is not mission critical, I'm just using it to learn.

I've learned that I need another partition to which I can write tar 
backups and then ftp them to one of my windows machines on my LAN. So, 
I've tried to identify the optimum configuration for the rebuild of my 
machine to accommodate that need. I have a 120GB IDE HD, so I don't have 
space problems. I presently have 128MB of RAM, but it looks like I 
should plan to accommodate an increase to 1024GB in the future.

I plan to host a few web pages, and hope to be able to ultimately run 
a MTA and mail lists using majordomo or mailman in the future. I have 
static IPs and permission to run a server on my internet access.

I've tried to absorb input from the FreeBSD on-line handbook, from Greg 
Lehey's "The Complete FreeBSD", and from Michael Lucases' "Absolute BSD".
What I read either conflicts or I just can't comprehend. Maybe I shouldn't 
have tried to compare these sources?

A Reference says keep the root section small, another says include /usr and 
/var in root, there's a discussion of the relative speed of the outside of 
a spinning HD to the middle of the HD, there's not an agreement on the 
size of the swap space, and, as I said, I'm confused. 

Here's where I am, and I would appreciate your collective comments. I'm 
persuaded to use 1026MB for swap, 8GB for root (/), 30GB for /backup tars, 
and the remainder for /home.  The /tmp, /usr, and /var directories would 
be included in the 8MB root. Web pages and mailing lists would be in home. 
I would be able to backup directories (or subdirectories) to tar files in 
the backup directory of sizes that wouldn't choke my windows machines when 
ftp'd to them for storage.

When I rebuild my system, I don't want to do it again for a while. Should 
I make root bigger? Should I have /tmp, /usr, and /var as separate 
partitions as the default install did for me when I built the system I'm 
learning on at present? 

If you had it to do all over again, given my parameters, what would you do?

Jay O'Brien
Rio Linda, CA USA

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it was said:

>On Aug 6, 2004, at 2:42 AM, Massimiliano Stucchi
>wrote:
>
>> On 050804, 20:58, Brett Glass wrote:
>>>
http://eetimes.com/semi/news/showArticle.jhtml?>articleID=26805631
>>
>> You should look at the IA64 port, not the AMD64.
>>
>
>Why?  This Intel chip referenced is NOT an IA64
>architecture.  It is 
>Intels EM64T 64/32 bit architecture based on Xeon/P4
>and "compatible" 
>with the AMD64 stuff
>
>Chad


Hello,

Actually, what it says is, "Intel's extensions, which
it first used in the Xeon and are called EM64T, are
compatible with AMD's extensions." I wouldn't infer
that to mean more than it says: Intel's _extensions_
are compatible AMD's _extensions_. A quick experiment
would tell. Because these same extensions exist in the
Xeon, by your reasoning, the AMD64 codebase should run
on a Xeon platform, nee?

Regards,

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it was said:

> > >>>Modern drives deal with bad block substitution
all by themselves.
> > >>
> > >>Umm - not quite, right?  That is, if a block
"goes bad" and you get a
> > >>read error, the drive isn't going to do any
"substituting" at that
> > >>point.  You'll just continue to get the read
error if you try to
> > >>access (read) that block.  It's only when you
allow another *write*
> > >>to that block (e.g. by deleting the original
file and writing new
> > >>files) that the drive will automatically
substitute a spare block for
> > >>the one that went bad.
> > >
> > >
> > >SCSI drives, at least, may do automatic
reallocation on both reads and
> > >writes ( camcontrol mode da0 -m 1, the ARRE and
AWRE flags ).  If the
> > >drive had to reread the block or had to use ECC
to recover data, AND
> > >the entire block was recovered, it will relocate
the data if ARRE is
> > >set.
> > 
> > Good to know, although I stopped buying SCSI disks
(for home use)
> > years ago.  I presumed the more common case these
days, that we
> > were talking about IDE disks.  In fact doesn't
this (from the original
> > question):
> > 
> > ad0s1a: hard error
> > 
> > necessarily refer to an ATA (IDE) disk?  I don't
believe any (current)
> > ATA disks will do automatic reallocation on reads,
will they?  Though
> > of course serial ATA drives seem to be "the
future" and are taking
> > on more and more SCSI-like features as time goes
by.
> 
> Both ATA and SCSI drives may relocate blocks that
were difficult
> to read (e.g. correctable errors, took multiple
attempts, etc).
> But if the block can't be recovered at all, the
drive will still
> report an error to the OS (in addition to
relocation).

Hello,

A tool that all may find useful is SpinRite 6.0
available from Gibson Research at
http://www.grc.com/sr/spinrite.htm. It's not open
source or freeware but anybody with an Intel, AMD, or
TiVO system that uses a harddrive ought to have it.
Note: I am in no way affiliated with Gibson Research,
other than having used SpinRite since the days of
manually interleaving MFM drives.

HTH,

Stheg


		
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EM64T = AMD64 because they have a patent-sharing agreement...

so yes  amd64 codebase should run even on the newest lga775 pentium 4 or the
newest xeons which support em64t

greetings,

alex

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it was said:

>On Aug 6, 2004, at 2:42 AM, Massimiliano Stucchi
>wrote:
>
>> On 050804, 20:58, Brett Glass wrote:
>>>
http://eetimes.com/semi/news/showArticle.jhtml?>articleID=26805631
>>
>> You should look at the IA64 port, not the AMD64.
>>
>
>Why?  This Intel chip referenced is NOT an IA64
>architecture.  It is
>Intels EM64T 64/32 bit architecture based on Xeon/P4
>and "compatible"
>with the AMD64 stuff
>
>Chad


Hello,

Actually, what it says is, "Intel's extensions, which
it first used in the Xeon and are called EM64T, are
compatible with AMD's extensions." I wouldn't infer
that to mean more than it says: Intel's _extensions_
are compatible AMD's _extensions_. A quick experiment
would tell. Because these same extensions exist in the
Xeon, by your reasoning, the AMD64 codebase should run
on a Xeon platform, nee?

Regards,

Stheg

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On Friday 06 August 2004 02:01 pm, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
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> Do you *want* the GUI?  If so, what do you have in your DISPLAY
> variable?  If not, why not just specify the '-g' option?

I don't necessarily need the gui, that's just what I'm used to using 
from previous installs. The -g option works fine. I don't know what you 
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The MPlayer package requires win32codecs to be installed, but when I "make" 
it, it can not find the package and tells me to copy it to 
"/usr/ports/distfiles/", however, when I do that, it tells me of an incorrect 
checksum. I find this odd because I "cat"ed the file with the checksums and 
they look the same (or very similiar, I took a quick snapshot way of looking 
at it). I do not know what the problem is, could someone help me?

I am running FreeBSD-5.1-Release, upgraded "base" and "ports" collection (it 
also did the same with the original).

Thank you, if you could help me I would be appriciative of it.

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Where can I ask about FreeBSD specific Palm issues?  I'm following a
4.8-Release guideline on getting a Palm Tungsten to interface with my
computer, but I'm having problems.  What is the best mailing list to ask?

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it was said:

by: "Jay O'Brien" <jayobrien@att.net>

> I'm confused, and I ask for your collective help.
> 
> I successfully built a FreeBSD system using
defaults. It works fine, 
> so far. I will start over and rebuild the system
now, carefully 
> documenting each step. I will make some changes the
second time. What 
> I have right now is not mission critical, I'm just
using it to learn.
> 
> I've learned that I need another partition to which
I can write tar 
> backups and then ftp them to one of my windows
machines on my LAN. So, 
> I've tried to identify the optimum configuration for
the rebuild of my 
> machine to accommodate that need. I have a 120GB IDE
HD, so I don't have 
> space problems. I presently have 128MB of RAM, but
it looks like I 
> should plan to accommodate an increase to 1024GB in
the future.
> 
> I plan to host a few web pages, and hope to be able
to ultimately run 
> a MTA and mail lists using majordomo or mailman in
the future. I have 
> static IPs and permission to run a server on my
internet access.
> 
> I've tried to absorb input from the FreeBSD on-line
handbook, from Greg 
> Lehey's "The Complete FreeBSD", and from Michael
Lucases' "Absolute BSD".
> What I read either conflicts or I just can't
comprehend. Maybe I shouldn't 
> have tried to compare these sources?
> 
> A Reference says keep the root section small,
another says include /usr and 
> /var in root, there's a discussion of the relative
speed of the outside of 
> a spinning HD to the middle of the HD, there's not
an agreement on the 
> size of the swap space, and, as I said, I'm
confused. 
> 
> Here's where I am, and I would appreciate your
collective comments. I'm 
> persuaded to use 1026MB for swap, 8GB for root (/),
30GB for /backup tars, 
> and the remainder for /home.  The /tmp, /usr, and
/var directories would 
> be included in the 8MB root. Web pages and mailing
lists would be in home. 
> I would be able to backup directories (or
subdirectories) to tar files in 
> the backup directory of sizes that wouldn't choke my
windows machines when 
> ftp'd to them for storage.
> 
> When I rebuild my system, I don't want to do it
again for a while. Should 
> I make root bigger? Should I have /tmp, /usr, and
/var as separate 
> partitions as the default install did for me when I
built the system I'm 
> learning on at present? 
> 
> If you had it to do all over again, given my
parameters, what would you do?
> 
> Jay O'Brien
> Rio Linda, CA USA
> 

Hello,

First, I'll assume you intend to have a single IDE
drive and that won't change for the life of this
setup. Second, I'll accept your standard of what would
_I_ do and not discuss the merits or philosophical
differences of Messers. Lucas's and Lehey's
recommendations. Finally, I'll assume you meant that
you'll eventually have 1024MB (i.e. 1GB) of RAM, not
1024GB (i.e. 1TB). 
To begin, a 120GB drive is HUGE for a FBSD system
relative to a Windows system, so you don't need to
dole out space in a miserly fashion. However, you do
need to be able to back up your data, so don't go nuts
either. 
I tend to make my root partition 1GB. I have never
needed this much space and could get by half that, but
it's a nice round number, so why not?
Because you will eventually have 1GB of RAM, I would
allocate a /swap partition equal to twice the maximum
RAM the motherboard can hold. Don't underestimate how
long you will own the machine or the effort you will
put into squeezing the last ounce of performance in
the years to come. (Home machines tend to linger long
after corporate machines have been surplussed.) And
soon or later you'll be needing to post a core dump,
so you may as well be ready for it.
You say that you intend to "host a few web pages, and
...ultimately run a MTA and mail lists." This means
you need a goodly amount of space in /var for the mail
_and_ the logs associated with the mail/web/firewall
programs, say 20-25GB (~20 percent of total drive
space).
The "few web pages" will become several domains as
time goes by, say 15-20GB (~15 percent of total drive
space) for /home or /www, whatever you call it.
The space needed for /usr isn't really substanial, say
10-12GB.
The hard part is figuring how much space you need for,
"I would be able to backup directories (or
subdirectories) to tar files in the backup directory
of sizes that wouldn't choke my windows machines when 
ftp'd to them for storage." I have no idea what this
entails, so say another 20-25GB for that.
Thus, I have allocated between ~70-86GB. Leave the
rest unallocated. Over time, one or more of these
estimates will be too low. When that happens, you will
be able to add space to the appropriate partition(s)
and use growfs(8) to remedy the situation.
This setup should last you a year or so. By then
you'll want to optimize your setup, maybe have
separate mail and web servers, whatever. It all
depends on how much of your life FBSD takes over.

HTH,

Stheg





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I don't own a dell power edge but I seem to remember another thread with this same problem
and I think the problem seemed to be how the dell found the cdrom and harddrives, I think
if you look at how the ide/ata cables are run, this may be the problem, but my memory is flakky
hope this points you to the right fix.

On Fri, Aug 06, 2004 at 07:21:15PM -0500, Spumonti wrote:
> Just tried installing FreeBSD 4.10 on a Dell PowerEdge 650.   No
> problems with the install, tried creating a partition with
> "dangerously dedicated" and also, just using the entire disk with
> standard bootmanager.
> 
> Each time, after the initial reboot I get an error:
> 
> Mounting root from ufs:ad0s1a
> Root mount failed: 6
> Mounting root from ufs:ad0a
> Root mount failed: 6
> 
> Manual root filesystem specification:
> <fstype>:<device> Mount <device> using filesystem <fstype>
> eg. ufs:/dev/da0s1a
> ? List valid disk boot devices
> <empty line> Abort manual input
> 
> mountroot> 
> 
> I tried:
> 
> mountroot> ufs:/dev/ad4s1a
> 
> but that fails too.
> 
> 
> The disk is a Seagate 120GB and it's actually ad4, not ad0.  If I
> interrupt the boot process at:
> 
> >>FreeBSD/i386 BOOT
> Default: 0:ad(0,a)/kernel
> boot:
> 
> and enter:
> 
> >>FreeBSD/i386 BOOT
> Default: 0:ad(0,a)/kernel
> boot: 0:ad(4,a)/kernel
> 
> the machine will boot properly.   I've tried two things I found while
> checking on this:
> 
> 1.  Adding to loader.conf:
> rootdev="disk4s1a"
> root_disk_unit=0"
> 
> 2.  Rebuilding the kernel and adding:
> options        ROOTDEVNAME=\"ufs:ad4s1a\"
> 
> 
> Neither of which worked.    Is there something I'm missing while doing
> the installation?   If I look in  /dev   the devices are there ad4,
> ad4s1, ad4s1a, ad4s1b, etc.
> 
> About at wit's end ... any help would be great.
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> Probably not. Intel isn't going to keep exactly the same architecture as
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things better than their competitors (ie, larger caches, different pipeline
architecture, etc), they are committed to maintain compatibility between
AMD64 and EM64T.

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> Probably not. Intel isn't going to keep exactly the same architecture as
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> has now. They'll make a few minor ajustments to fine-tune their CPU.

According to the Intel people that I've talked to where I work (a big blue
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hard to establish.)

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things better than their competitors (ie, larger caches, different pipeline
architecture, etc), they are committed to maintain compatibility between
AMD64 and EM64T.

--
Matt

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At 09:06 PM 8/6/2004, Matt Emmerton wrote:

>While Intel (or AMD) may make changes to the underlying silicon to make
>things better than their competitors (ie, larger caches, different pipeline
>architecture, etc), they are committed to maintain compatibility between
>AMD64 and EM64T.

This is good to know. Has anyone tested the AMD64 version of FreeBSD
on one of the Intel Xeons with the new instruction set?

--Brett

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At 09:06 PM 8/6/2004, Matt Emmerton wrote:

>While Intel (or AMD) may make changes to the underlying silicon to make
>things better than their competitors (ie, larger caches, different pipeline
>architecture, etc), they are committed to maintain compatibility between
>AMD64 and EM64T.

This is good to know. Has anyone tested the AMD64 version of FreeBSD
on one of the Intel Xeons with the new instruction set?

--Brett

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> At 09:06 PM 8/6/2004, Matt Emmerton wrote:
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> >AMD64 and EM64T.
>
> This is good to know. Has anyone tested the AMD64 version of FreeBSD
> on one of the Intel Xeons with the new instruction set?

If you would like to ship me one, I'd gladly test it out for you.  See my
web site for my address.

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That, however, is where the similarities end.  The Nocona chip is only 
64bit on the outside, the internals are essentially built on a 32 bit 
legacy system.  The end result is that AMD is pure 64 bit and intel's 
chip just won't keep up when full 64 bit code hits the market.  The new 
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Intel has acknowledged their flaws.  The current issue of infoworld 
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>AMD
>  
>
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>>
>
>According to the Intel people that I've talked to where I work (a big blue
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>Thus, code built for AMD64 will work unmodified on EM64T and vice versa.
>(It would be silly for Intel to do otherwise, as they don't want to risk
>losing any support from the community and market share that AMD has worked
>hard to establish.)
>
>While Intel (or AMD) may make changes to the underlying silicon to make
>things better than their competitors (ie, larger caches, different pipeline
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>
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That, however, is where the similarities end.  The Nocona chip is only 
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chip just won't keep up when full 64 bit code hits the market.  The new 
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>>
>>>http://eetimes.com/semi/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=26805631
>>>      
>>>
>>Probably not. Intel isn't going to keep exactly the same architecture as
>>    
>>
>AMD
>  
>
>>has now. They'll make a few minor ajustments to fine-tune their CPU.
>>    
>>
>
>According to the Intel people that I've talked to where I work (a big blue
>company that isn't Dell), AMD64 and EM64T are the same on the opcode level.
>Thus, code built for AMD64 will work unmodified on EM64T and vice versa.
>(It would be silly for Intel to do otherwise, as they don't want to risk
>losing any support from the community and market share that AMD has worked
>hard to establish.)
>
>While Intel (or AMD) may make changes to the underlying silicon to make
>things better than their competitors (ie, larger caches, different pipeline
>architecture, etc), they are committed to maintain compatibility between
>AMD64 and EM64T.
>
>--
>Matt
>
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At 09:18 PM 8/6/2004, Matt Emmerton wrote:

>If you would like to ship me one, I'd gladly test it out for you.  

If I had one to ship, *I* would test it. But I need to know PRIOR
to purchase.

--Brett Glass

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Spumonti wrote:

<snip>

>The disk is a Seagate 120GB and it's actually ad4, not ad0.  If I
>interrupt the boot process at:
>
>  
>
>>>FreeBSD/i386 BOOT
>>>      
>>>
>Default: 0:ad(0,a)/kernel
>boot:
>
>and enter:
>
>  
>
>>>FreeBSD/i386 BOOT
>>>      
>>>
>Default: 0:ad(0,a)/kernel
>boot: 0:ad(4,a)/kernel
>
>the machine will boot properly.   I've tried two things I found while
>checking on this:
>
>1.  Adding to loader.conf:
>rootdev="disk4s1a"
>root_disk_unit=0"
>
>2.  Rebuilding the kernel and adding:
>options        ROOTDEVNAME=\"ufs:ad4s1a\"
>
>
>Neither of which worked.    Is there something I'm missing while doing
>the installation?   If I look in  /dev   the devices are there ad4,
>ad4s1, ad4s1a, ad4s1b, etc.
>
>About at wit's end ... any help would be great.
>  
>

Is this the only disk in the box?  Why is it ad4 instead of ad0?
That's at issue, but maybe it's not as bad as pulling out your hair...

It might be possible to "fix it" without changing disk numbers
by adding the following to /boot/loader.conf:

        set root_disk_unit=4
        boot /kernel

See loader(8) for details.

That said, I'm no expert on loader(8) et al.  But that's what the
docs say, anyway.

HTH,

Kevin Kinsey
DaleCo, S.P.

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Jeff Kramer wrote:
> Oh great and wise FreeBSD gurus,
> 
> I've been running FreeBSD boxes for about five years with great results 
> (up to 6 at the moment), but recently one of my machines has started to 
> seriously act up.  Every time a heavy disk operation (say, tar'ing a 1 
> gig directory) occurs the system slows to a crawl, and requests to 
> apache/php/mysql sites hosted on it just hang.
> 
> The system is a dual p3 1.13ghz box with a gig of ram and mirrored 80 
> gig WD800BB drives on a Promise TX2 controller.  The raid isn't 
> degraded.  There's a dedicated 1.5 gig swap partition and a swap file on 
> the /usr partition.  We had some apache processes go nuts one time, 
> which is why I added the swap file.
> [...]

This problem could be due to a disk drive that is about to fail.  If 
there are (still recoverable) disk errors, retrying the affected I/O 
operations can keep a disk controller occupied for serveral seconds.  Of 
course, all processes trying to do disk I/O during this time span will 
block.

Since the errors are (eventually) recoverable the raid array is likely 
to _not_ drop into degraded mode by itself.  After you've found out 
which of the disks it is you would have to force that disk into failed 
mode and would then replace it.  The exact details depend on your raid 
controller.

Of course, your mileage may vary, but I've experienced disk failures 
like these several times in the past, with the effect you've described.

    Uwe
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Has anyone tried to join/register at:
http://www.freebsdforums.org/

I've joined and registered and I'm able to login, but after 24hrs I'm
still unable to create new threads or reply to existing ones. I've
emailed   webmaster@freebsdforums.org without any response. I thought
maybe I was over looking something but I don't think that I am. 

When I try and click on the Registration link in my email I get:
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Is there a more preferable FreeBSD forum other than the one above?

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Cvsup your ports system and try again

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html


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Subject: win32codecs.tar.bz2

The MPlayer package requires win32codecs to be installed, but when I
"make"=20
it, it can not find the package and tells me to copy it to=20
"/usr/ports/distfiles/", however, when I do that, it tells me of an
incorrect=20
checksum. I find this odd because I "cat"ed the file with the checksums
and=20
they look the same (or very similiar, I took a quick snapshot way of
looking=20
at it). I do not know what the problem is, could someone help me?

I am running FreeBSD-5.1-Release, upgraded "base" and "ports" collection
(it=20
also did the same with the original).

Thank you, if you could help me I would be appriciative of it.

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I've looked on Google and the mailing archives and don't really find
anything were others are complaining about the same issue. So I'm
assuming because I'm new to FreeBSD that I'm overlooking something.

I made sure that my ports tree was synced with the most upto date
ports. I went into the "/usr/ports/net/gaim" and did "make
fetch-recursive" and then "make install clean". 

Among other things this compiled the newst version of Gaim V 0.80. No
problems. This works great. But now I would like to use encyption so I
goto "/usr/ports/security/gaim-encyption" and do "make fetch-recursive"
and then "make install clean". This compiled fine. Gaim-Encryption
v2.28.

But when I open up Gaim to load the Encryption-Plugin it doesn't show
up listed at all. I tried rebooting and still the same. I tried
"deinstalling Gaim and the reinstalling. Still the same thing.. 

Does anyone have Gaim working with Gaim encryption? I've looked in the
"MAKE" files but I'm unsure of what to do if anything. Any help is much
appreciated.

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> anything were others are complaining about the same issue. So I'm
> assuming because I'm new to FreeBSD that I'm overlooking something.
>=20
> I made sure that my ports tree was synced with the most upto date
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> Among other things this compiled the newst version of Gaim V 0.80. No
> problems. This works great. But now I would like to use encyption so I
> goto "/usr/ports/security/gaim-encyption" and do "make fetch-recursive"
> and then "make install clean". This compiled fine. Gaim-Encryption
> v2.28.
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> But when I open up Gaim to load the Encryption-Plugin it doesn't show
> up listed at all. I tried rebooting and still the same. I tried
> "deinstalling Gaim and the reinstalling. Still the same thing..=20
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> Does anyone have Gaim working with Gaim encryption? I've looked in the
> "MAKE" files but I'm unsure of what to do if anything. Any help is much
> appreciated.

Go to Tools->Preferences->Plugins, and check Gaim-Encryption.  Then, a
Gaim-Encryption item will appear under the Plugins header.

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Hi everybody,
I've a 5.2.1 FreeBSD system running on a windows network, with Kde 3.1.4.
Recently, i noticed that, the default samba that cames with the installation 
is 2.2.8, which has some compatibility problems with windows XP (but works 
fine with win95, 98 and 2000), at least in my case. So, I upgraded to Samba 
3.0.1 from the ports, and everything was ok, except that a component of 
konqueror seems to be broken now, and I cannot browse my smb network within 
it, when  i try to do, ie: smb://somemachine, it displays a "KIO_smb error".
Apparently, some konqueror components resulted damaged after the upgrade, but 
I wonder if there is any way to fix it without reinstalling kdebase again.
If someone has any idea???

Many thanks,


Mariano Guadagnini.

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--- Joe Marcus Clarke <marcus@marcuscom.com> wrote:


> Go to Tools->Preferences->Plugins, and check Gaim-Encryption.  Then,
> a
> Gaim-Encryption item will appear under the Plugins header.

Woops. Sorry. I forgot to mention that I know how to enble pluggins
from within Gaim. Tools>Preferences>Plugins  (no Gaim-Encryption plugin
checkbox is there.) This is why I'm kind of baffeled. I'm not sure what
else I need to do.

Joe are your running Gaim v0.80 and Gaim-Encryption V2.28 ?

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> Woops. Sorry. I forgot to mention that I know how to enble pluggins
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> checkbox is there.) This is why I'm kind of baffeled. I'm not sure what
> else I need to do.
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> Joe are your running Gaim v0.80 and Gaim-Encryption V2.28 ?

Yep, works just fine.  I use it daily.  Make sure you do not have
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Andrew wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I've been using Wingate for months now to distribute an internet
> connection among 10 users (NAT). Stunned by regular failures of Windows
> 2000, Wingate and other evil software, I decided to switch to FreeBSD. I
> read the handbook and about 3000 more pages of manuals / how-to's /
> guides. I set up FreeBSD with all applications I currently need for
> server tasks.
> 
> I now need to test some applications, while keeping a part of the load
> on the Wingate machine. What I want to do is connect to internet via
> ADSL, using the bsd box, and let Wingate use the connection through the
> box.
> 
> What is the best way to retain most of the NAT functionality?
> If you are happy to not know what Wingate is, try to assume that it is
> just another nat-box. Can bsd somehow "forward" connection, so that the
> nat-box almost feels like it has a real IP?

There's no need  to complicate this. The FreeBSD box will provide NAT 
for anything behind it, and if that includes the Wingate machine, fine, 
no problem. If the Wingate machine is in turn providing NAT for other 
machines, fine, no problem.

If Wingate is using, say 192.168. addresses for it's Natted network, 
use, say 172.16. for the FreeBSD internal addresses.

Peter.

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--- Joe Marcus Clarke <marcus@marcuscom.com> wrote:


> > Joe are your running Gaim v0.80 and Gaim-Encryption V2.28 ?
> 
> Yep, works just fine.  I use it daily.  Make sure you do not have
> WITHOUT_NSS defined in your /etc/make.conf, and that Gaim was build
> with
> NSS support.

Dohp... I don't have an /etc/make.conf file present.... no problem.

Thats really weird that I don't have this file in place. I can figure
out what needs to be done but what I find really weird is why don't
they mention the "/etc/make.conf" file before or during Chapter 8 of
the handbook (Configuring the FreeBSD Kernel). Instead they leave this
till chapter 19. Seems very important to me especially if I want my
kernel sources built to my machine/hardware specs. 

So I've already compiled the Kernel sources, so I'm assuming its
probably best that after I configure an "/etc/make.conf" file that I
should recompile my kernel sources again?

How do I ensure that Gaim is built with NSS Support? I didn't really
understand where to look or what to do? The MAKE file looks like the
logical place but I don't know what to do? Is this described in the
Handbook? If so can you kindly hint too, where..  and I'll do what
needs to be done.

Thanks,
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>=20
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> > with
> > NSS support.
>=20
> Dohp... I don't have an /etc/make.conf file present.... no problem.
>=20
> Thats really weird that I don't have this file in place. I can figure
> out what needs to be done but what I find really weird is why don't
> they mention the "/etc/make.conf" file before or during Chapter 8 of
> the handbook (Configuring the FreeBSD Kernel). Instead they leave this
> till chapter 19. Seems very important to me especially if I want my
> kernel sources built to my machine/hardware specs.=20
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> So I've already compiled the Kernel sources, so I'm assuming its
> probably best that after I configure an "/etc/make.conf" file that I
> should recompile my kernel sources again?
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> How do I ensure that Gaim is built with NSS Support? I didn't really
> understand where to look or what to do? The MAKE file looks like the
> logical place but I don't know what to do? Is this described in the
> Handbook? If so can you kindly hint too, where..  and I'll do what
> needs to be done.

Not having an /etc/make.conf is okay.  If you don't have WITHOUT_NSS set
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--- Joe Marcus Clarke <marcus@marcuscom.com> wrote:


> Not having an /etc/make.conf is okay.  If you don't have WITHOUT_NSS
> set
> in /etc/make.conf or in your environment, then Gaim should be built
> with
> NSS support.  You might try running gaim -d from the command line,
> and
> see if it throws an error trying to load the encryption plug-in.

Thanks for the help Joe. I'm pretty certain that Gaim didn't build with
NSS support but I don't see any errors when running "gaim -d". I don't
see anything related to gaim-encryption or NSS being loaded either.

So it appears that Gaim isn't being built with NSS support. So if I
don't have an "/etc/make.conf" then how do I force Gaim to build with
NSS support when it compiles? Again I see stuff in the gaim MAKE file
but I don't know what I need to do specifically. Any suggestions or
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Hi,
 
Yes.
 
I am currently working on deploying an H323 based VoIP network in FreeBSD 5.1
Do you have any specific question?
 
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Hello Joshua,

Try http://forums.bsdnexus.org/. It's a forum for all BSD flavours.

- Russell

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>I've joined and registered and I'm able to login, but after 24hrs I'm
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When I try to install FreeBSD 5.2.1 from floppies I get this when it tries to format the disk, the installation freezes(though caps lock work).

ad0 TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying(2 retries left) LBA=63
ad0 DMA limited to UDMA33, non-ATA66 cable or device
ad0 Warning - WRITE_DMA interrupt was seen but timeout failed.
ad0 Warning - WRITE_DMA interrupt was seen but taskqueue stalled LBA=63

I've googled and I have yet to see a solution to this problem.

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Hello FreeBSD gurus,

Some linux guy gave me a strange idea:

You have two disks, /dev/da1s1e and /dev/da2s1e and I mount the
two to a single mount point.
Do I end up with the total capacity of the two disks on the said
mount point?
To be a bit clear, da1 is, say, 36GB and da2 is 72GB and I mount
as above to /mnt
Does /mnt now have 108GB?
What are the dangers of doing this?
How does the system use the disks?

I haven't tested this anyway.


Is this something sane?


Clues will be highly appreciated.


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> Try http://forums.bsdnexus.org/. It's a forum for all BSD flavours.

Thanks Russell. http://forums.bsdnexus.com looks pretty fresh. I like
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> > in /etc/make.conf or in your environment, then Gaim should be built
> > with
> > NSS support.  You might try running gaim -d from the command line,
> > and
> > see if it throws an error trying to load the encryption plug-in.

Oh boy... FreeBSD takes allot of getting used to. I ran "make
fetch-recursive" in the "/usr/ports/security/gaim-encryption" dir
yesterday. What I forgot to do was "make install clean". I've done this
twice now with other "ports". I'm learning. Heh..
When I checked "/var/db/pkg" I didn't see "gaim-encryption" as one of
the packages listed. So I knew right away that I flubbed up and forgot
to do "make install clean" after doing "make fetch-recursive"
initially. 

Gaim-Encryption is working now. Thanks for your help anyways, Joe.

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Russell J. Wood wrote:
> Hello Joshua,
> 
> Try http://forums.bsdnexus.org/. It's a forum for all BSD flavours.
> 
> - Russell

Joshua,

http://forums.bsdnexus.org/ didn't work. I assume you meant
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Hello,

I read all the FAQs and stuff I could find after googling and got
IPFW+Bridging+Dummynet working but still wanted to confirm my config.

Some basic info:
==================
FreeBSD bsdband.netmagic.com 4.10-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.10-RELEASE #1: Fri
Aug  6 22:45:47 IST 2004
root@bsdband.netmagic.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/MYKERNEL  i386

At the tail of MYKERNEL config:
===============================
options IPFIREWALL
options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE
options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT
options BRIDGE
options DUMMYNET
options HZ=1000

In /etc/sysctl.conf
===================
net.link.ether.bridge_cfg=ed0,rl0
net.link.ether.bridge=1
net.link.ether.bridge_ipfw=1
net.link.ether.ipfw=1
net.inet.ip.fw.one_pass=1
net.inet.ip.fw.enable=0

Now, I want to do bandwidth shaping by using the box as a bridge only. I
don't want any IP routing or firewalling to be done on the box. Are the
above parameters proper and appropriate?

Is there something else I should add for better performance etc?

Thanks,

Siddhartha




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* Bill Moran <wmoran@potentialtech.com> [20040622 00:57]: wrote:
> Matthew Seaman <m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Jun 21, 2004 at 05:25:20PM -0400, Bill Moran wrote:
> >  
> > > The return can be significant.  The company I am doing this for provides IMAP
> > > mail services for business.  If a filesystem crashes and service is down for a
> > > while, we can easily lose clients.  If we had some sort of failover, we'd be
> > > able to just switch the IP on the backup machine and life would be good.
> > > 
> > > "long way to go" is what I'm trying to establish.  I was hoping to find
> > > something workable without reinventing the wheel.  For example, Postgresql can
> > > do real-time replication between two Postgresql servers using Slony.  If I can
> > > find an IMAP server that will keep the mail folders in PostgreSQL, I've got my
> > > failover system ... tada!
> > 
> >     http://wiki.dovecot.org/moin.cgi/DovecotPostgresql
> 
> Unfortunately, this only keeps the user database in Postgresql, but not the
> mailboxes themselves.  We already have the equivalent of this using LDAP, and
> I'm in the process of setting up a slave LDAP server for redundancy.
> 
> It's the mailboxes themselves that are difficult to get.  Best we've got right
> now is backing up the Cyrus mail folders using rsync ... but this is very time-
> consuming, and (thus) only done once a day.  In order for it to be done right,
> Cyrus has to be shut down while it's backing up.

Hello Bill and everyone,

I know it is already August. I did not read this list all this
time, leave alone the thread!
But anyway, Bill says they use LDAP, yes? How about this solution:

# High Availability Mail server                          
http://bsdvault.net/sections.php?op=viewarticle&artid=99 
http://bsdvault.net/sections.php?op=viewarticle&artid=100

Looks like what Bill wanted, no?



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In the past few days, it seems that the p5-podlators port
has been changed in a way that it doesn't install because
it conflicts with perl-5.8.5--you get one of those "Can't
be installed because both are installed in the same place"
messages.

It doesn't make much sense that a bunch of basic Perl
modules would conflict with Perl itself, and now I 
can't install or upgrade any of the many dependencies
of p5-podlators.

Anyone know what's up with this?

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On Sat, Aug 07, 2004 at 01:36:39PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
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> Hello FreeBSD gurus,
>=20
> Some linux guy gave me a strange idea:
>=20
> You have two disks, /dev/da1s1e and /dev/da2s1e and I mount the
> two to a single mount point.
> Do I end up with the total capacity of the two disks on the said
> mount point?
> To be a bit clear, da1 is, say, 36GB and da2 is 72GB and I mount
> as above to /mnt
> Does /mnt now have 108GB?
> What are the dangers of doing this?
> How does the system use the disks?
>=20
> I haven't tested this anyway.
>=20
>=20
> Is this something sane?
>=20
>=20
> Clues will be highly appreciated.

That sounds a bit muddled.  If you try mounting two partitions
literally in the same place, either one will overlay the other so you
can only access the last mounted partition, or you'll get an error
message and fail to mount the second one. (Which occurs depends on the
filesystem type).

What I think your Linux using friends were thinking of, even if they
were unclear on the concept, is some form of logical volume
management.

Under FreeBSD, you could use vinum(8) to create a concat volume from
the two partitions, which would give you give you a filesystem the
size of the sum of both components.  That's not new functionality.
It's been available in FreeBSD for ages (since 2.x I believe) through
vinum(8) or one of it's predecessors like ccd(4).

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	Matthew

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On Sat, Aug 07, 2004 at 07:58:25AM -0400, Jesse Sheidlower wrote:
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> In the past few days, it seems that the p5-podlators port
> has been changed in a way that it doesn't install because
> it conflicts with perl-5.8.5--you get one of those "Can't
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> modules would conflict with Perl itself, and now I=20
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> of p5-podlators.
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> Anyone know what's up with this?

p5-podlators contains essentially the same set of modules as are
installed as a standard part of perl-5.8.5.  In fact, the p5-podlators
port will try and overwrite some files claimed by the perl-5.8.5 port.
There's no point in installing both.

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Odhiambo Washington <wash@wananchi.com> wrote:

> * Bill Moran <wmoran@potentialtech.com> [20040622 00:57]: wrote:
> > Matthew Seaman <m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Mon, Jun 21, 2004 at 05:25:20PM -0400, Bill Moran wrote:
> > >  
> > > > The return can be significant.  The company I am doing this for provides IMAP
> > > > mail services for business.  If a filesystem crashes and service is down for a
> > > > while, we can easily lose clients.  If we had some sort of failover, we'd be
> > > > able to just switch the IP on the backup machine and life would be good.
> > > > 
> > > > "long way to go" is what I'm trying to establish.  I was hoping to find
> > > > something workable without reinventing the wheel.  For example, Postgresql can
> > > > do real-time replication between two Postgresql servers using Slony.  If I can
> > > > find an IMAP server that will keep the mail folders in PostgreSQL, I've got my
> > > > failover system ... tada!
> > > 
> > >     http://wiki.dovecot.org/moin.cgi/DovecotPostgresql
> > 
> > Unfortunately, this only keeps the user database in Postgresql, but not the
> > mailboxes themselves.  We already have the equivalent of this using LDAP, and
> > I'm in the process of setting up a slave LDAP server for redundancy.
> > 
> > It's the mailboxes themselves that are difficult to get.  Best we've got right
> > now is backing up the Cyrus mail folders using rsync ... but this is very time-
> > consuming, and (thus) only done once a day.  In order for it to be done right,
> > Cyrus has to be shut down while it's backing up.
> 
> Hello Bill and everyone,
> 
> I know it is already August. I did not read this list all this
> time, leave alone the thread!
> But anyway, Bill says they use LDAP, yes? How about this solution:
> 
> # High Availability Mail server                          
> http://bsdvault.net/sections.php?op=viewarticle&artid=99 
> http://bsdvault.net/sections.php?op=viewarticle&artid=100
> 
> Looks like what Bill wanted, no?

Thanks for the input.

Unfortunately, this only handles the delivery side of things.  If users are
using IMAP to manage their mail on the server, the two machines will get
out of sync, unless there's some way to tell the IMAP server to manage the
mail on both machines simultaenously.

-- 
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Hi Bill et al,

1)
Using /stand/sysinstall & trying to download packages from the freeBSD site, I
get the ERROR prompt:

---------------
"Cannot resolve hostname 'ftp.freebsd.org'! Are you sure that your name server,
gateway and network interface are correctly configured ?"
---------------

I have a Cable Broadband Connection. Does this error mean that my DHCP is not
configured correctly or is it something else ???


2)
When trying to connect to my ISP's update-server(which you don't need to be
authenticated to access) I get this ERROR even though my Cable connection is
ON, Connected & Working:

-------------------------
200# ftp update-server
ftp: update-server: No address associated with hostname
-------------------------

Is this the same problem as above ???



3)
I have in my rc.conf file

-------------------------
ifconfig_rl0="DHCP"
hostname="127.0.0.1"
-------------------------

should the "hostname" be the dynamically allocated address that my ISP assigns
when I turn on my Cable Modem or should I leave it as 127.0.0.1 ???


If there is anything else that you think that I may be missing in trying to
connect to the net, please let me know ;)



Kind Regards,

DK


	
		
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DK wrote:

> Hi Bill et al,

Hello DK,

> 
> 1)
> Using /stand/sysinstall & trying to download packages from the freeBSD site, I
> get the ERROR prompt:
> 
> ---------------
> "Cannot resolve hostname 'ftp.freebsd.org'! Are you sure that your name server,
> gateway and network interface are correctly configured ?"
> ---------------
> 
> I have a Cable Broadband Connection. Does this error mean that my DHCP is not
> configured correctly or is it something else ???

It might be possible that your cable broadband company does not send you 
any DNS servers to use. If you have the adresses you might be able to 
set them manually in the file /etc/resolv.conf

nameserver $ip1
nameserver $ip2


> 
> 
> 2)
> When trying to connect to my ISP's update-server(which you don't need to be
> authenticated to access) I get this ERROR even though my Cable connection is
> ON, Connected & Working:
> 
> -------------------------
> 200# ftp update-server
> ftp: update-server: No address associated with hostname

Still looks like a Resolving problem to me. Try the above ;)

> -------------------------
> I have in my rc.conf file
> 
> -------------------------
> ifconfig_rl0="DHCP"
> hostname="127.0.0.1"
> -------------------------

As hostname i would choose a name that you like, it represents the name 
of the machine, not the ip adres of your machine ;)
> 
> should the "hostname" be the dynamically allocated address that my ISP assigns
> when I turn on my Cable Modem or should I leave it as 127.0.0.1 ???

No, it's just the name of the computer, mine is called 
redqueen.elvandar.org ...

> 
> 
> If there is anything else that you think that I may be missing in trying to
> connect to the net, please let me know ;)


If i think that you should do something extra in the meantime i will 
send and extra email ;)
> 
> 
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> DK
> 

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Peter Risdon wrote:
> Andrew wrote:
> > I've been using Wingate for months now to distribute an internet
> > connection among 10 users (NAT). Stunned by regular failures of
Windows
> > 2000, Wingate and other evil software, I decided to switch to
FreeBSD. I
> > read the handbook and about 3000 more pages of manuals / how-to's /
> > guides. I set up FreeBSD with all applications I currently need for
> > server tasks.
> >
> > I now need to test some applications, while keeping a part of the
load
> > on the Wingate machine. What I want to do is connect to internet via
> > ADSL, using the bsd box, and let Wingate use the connection through
the
> > box.
> >
> > What is the best way to retain most of the NAT functionality?
> > If you are happy to not know what Wingate is, try to assume that it
is
> > just another nat-box. Can bsd somehow "forward" connection, so that
the
> > nat-box almost feels like it has a real IP?
>
> There's no need  to complicate this. The FreeBSD box will provide NAT
> for anything behind it, and if that includes the Wingate machine,
fine,
> no problem. If the Wingate machine is in turn providing NAT for other
> machines, fine, no problem.

Thanks, that's how I planned to do it. I just though there might be a
way to forward/redirect packets in order to avoid natd. But on the other
hand, I'll test natd this way as well.

Best regards,
Andrew

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Hi.

Am 06.08.2004 um 15:23 schrieb Iain Sutcliffe:
> I am trying to install v5.2.1 onto an IBM x-series 335 server. It has a
> single cable with which to attach the monitor/keyboard/mouse that 
> enables
> daisy chaining of servers.
> When I install I get to a point where I have to enter information and 
> the
> keyboard doesn't work. I've tried several times with no luck.
> Do you have any known problems with these systems?

I have the same problem wit x-series 345.
Try to disable ACPI on boot, that worked for me.

asg

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Things will be easier if you install (and use) sysutils/portupgrade 

It's best to use /etc/make.conf for world and kernel settings, and for 
general compiler settings; and use /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf for 
port settings.  Anything in make.conf is seen by every build, but 
portupgrade reads per port settings from pkgtools.conf and passes them 
into make.

On Saturday 07 August 2004 11:50, Joshua Banks wrote:

> Oh boy... FreeBSD takes allot of getting used to. I ran "make
> fetch-recursive" in the "/usr/ports/security/gaim-encryption" dir
> yesterday. What I forgot to do was "make install clean". I've done
> this twice now with other "ports". I'm learning. Heh..
> When I checked "/var/db/pkg" I didn't see "gaim-encryption" as one of
> the packages listed. So I knew right away that I flubbed up and
> forgot to do "make install clean" after doing "make fetch-recursive"
> initially.
>

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Hello,

I have upgraded from 5.2.1-release to 5.2-current.
On 5.2.1-release there was a device pcm for the sound module. This
doesn't seem to be accepted anymore in 5.2-current.
Is there an equivalent device?

-Hanspeter

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Hanspeter Roth wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I have upgraded from 5.2.1-release to 5.2-current.
> On 5.2.1-release there was a device pcm for the sound module. This
> doesn't seem to be accepted anymore in 5.2-current.
> Is there an equivalent device?

Hi,

It's accepted fine on my 5.2.1-RELEASE-p9 system. What exactly is the 
problem you're seeing?

Peter.

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On Sat, Aug 07, 2004 at 05:26:19PM +0200, Hanspeter Roth wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I have upgraded from 5.2.1-release to 5.2-current.
> On 5.2.1-release there was a device pcm for the sound module. This
> doesn't seem to be accepted anymore in 5.2-current.
> Is there an equivalent device?

Read /usr/src/UPDATING:

20040716:
        The sound device drivers are renamed.  `sound' is always required,
        while `snd_*' should be configured accordingly to your hardware.
        Refer to NOTES for the detail of the drivers.

-Radek

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Peter Risdon wrote:
> Hanspeter Roth wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have upgraded from 5.2.1-release to 5.2-current.
>> On 5.2.1-release there was a device pcm for the sound module. This
>> doesn't seem to be accepted anymore in 5.2-current.
>> Is there an equivalent device?
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> It's accepted fine on my 5.2.1-RELEASE-p9 system. What exactly is the 
> problem you're seeing?

Apologies, I misread your mail. Sorry for the wasted bandwidth.

Peter.

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  On Aug 07 at 17:41, Radek Kozlowski spoke:

> Read /usr/src/UPDATING:
> 
> 20040716:
>         The sound device drivers are renamed.  `sound' is always required,
>         while `snd_*' should be configured accordingly to your hardware.
>         Refer to NOTES for the detail of the drivers.

I have now added `device sound' to the kernel configuration. But
this doesn't make the sound module available. Also there isn't a
/dev/mixer*.

What does snd_* mean?
I tried to add `device snd_pcm'. But this isn't accepted by config.
Dmesg shows:

pci0: <multimedia, audio> at device 31.5 (no driver attached)

What else is required?

-Hanspeter

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So I was trying to properly install a new 200G WD HDD on a Highpoint
controller and wasn't having any luck, so I figured I might as well try
getting the USB2 Enclosure working with the machine too while I was at it
(also a 200G drive, but formatted for NTFS), connecting the drive and going
back to seeing where I might have the highpoint controller recognized I
forgot all about the USB drive --- bad mistake.

I went into the /stand/sysinstall under fdisk and saw I had a 200G drive
there, "Oh, I must have done something to enable the HighPoint controller" I
said .. let's edit it .. "Strange, it's reporting NTFS/QNX/..  did I get a
drive with something on it ?"  I was unable to mount the drive with NTFS (it
wasn't in my kernel) so I just said forget it and tried to fdisk, it tossed
a warning about doing the fdisk separately from the disklabel, so I said, ok
, I'll wait.. and went off to do the disklabel at the same time.  at which
point on trying to disklabel the disc I believe the disklabel wrote out
(improperly) and then crashed the PC -- at which point I realized my
mistake.  I don't think that the full write even started because it was a
hard crash and occurred very soon after I executed the command, I don't have
the debug screen that appeared afterward, it was a kernel panic.


This is the USB2 device::

Aug  7 12:14:14 Crappy login: ROOT LOGIN (root) ON ttyv0
Aug  7 12:14:25 Crappy /kernel: umass0: Cypress Semiconductor USB2.0 Storage
Device, rev 2.00/0.01, addr 2
Aug  7 12:14:25 Crappy /kernel: umass0: Get Max Lun not supported (STALLED)
Aug  7 12:14:32 Crappy /kernel: da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
Aug  7 12:14:32 Crappy /kernel: da0: <WDC WD20 00JB-00FUA0 \0000\0000> Fixed
Direct Access SCSI-0 device
Aug  7 12:14:32 Crappy /kernel: da0: 650KB/s transfers
Aug  7 12:14:32 Crappy /kernel: da0: 190782MB (390721968 512 byte sectors:
64H 32S/T 59710C)

Initially I attempted to just read the disklabel, but it threw a "bad pack
magic number".   So I tried to edit it with disklabel -e , I changed
nothing, but it seems the disklabel was written when I left the editor
regardless....

Disklabel commands:

************
[Crappy]:log% disklabel -r /dev/da0
disklabel: bad pack magic number (label is damaged, or pack is unlabeled)

[Crappy]:log% disklabel /dev/da0
# /dev/da0:
type: SCSI
disk: WDC WD20
label: 00JB-00FUA0
flags:
bytes/sector: 512
sectors/track: 63
tracks/cylinder: 255
sectors/cylinder: 16065
cylinders: 24321
sectors/unit: 390721968
rpm: 3600
interleave: 1
trackskew: 0
cylinderskew: 0
headswitch: 0           # milliseconds
track-to-track seek: 0  # milliseconds
drivedata: 0

8 partitions:
#        size   offset    fstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
  c: 390721968        0    unused        0     0        # (Cyl.    0 -
24321*)

***************

I know it's a 7200 RPM drive, with an 8MB cache and 200G of physical space
( ~ 186GB after formatting in NTFS), the Western Digital Special Edition
200G drive.

I want to restore my data, but I am scared to change the disklabel at the
thought of losing the 150+G of data that is on the drive.  Can anyone PLEASE
provide details on how I might be able to restore my data, right now I can't
mount it anywhere?   Any help is appreciated.


Thank you,

Bryant Eadon

Dual Electrical and Computer Systems Engineering Major
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
Lambda Chi Alpha EH1063

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On Sat, Aug 07, 2004 at 06:18:35PM +0200, Hanspeter Roth wrote:
>   On Aug 07 at 17:41, Radek Kozlowski spoke:
> 
> > Read /usr/src/UPDATING:
> > 
> > 20040716:
> >         The sound device drivers are renamed.  `sound' is always required,
> >         while `snd_*' should be configured accordingly to your hardware.
> >         Refer to NOTES for the detail of the drivers.
> 
> I have now added `device sound' to the kernel configuration. But
> this doesn't make the sound module available. Also there isn't a
> /dev/mixer*.
> 
> What does snd_* mean?
> I tried to add `device snd_pcm'. But this isn't accepted by config.
> Dmesg shows:
> 
> pci0: <multimedia, audio> at device 31.5 (no driver attached)
> 
> What else is required?

You didn't refer to the NOTES file (/usr/src/sys/conf/NOTES that is)
like you were supposed to, did you? There's a section called Sound
drivers that should explain everything.

-Radek

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On Sat, 7 Aug 2004, Hanspeter Roth wrote:

>  On Aug 07 at 17:41, Radek Kozlowski spoke:
>
>> Read /usr/src/UPDATING:
>>
>> 20040716:
>>         The sound device drivers are renamed.  `sound' is always required,
>>         while `snd_*' should be configured accordingly to your hardware.
>>         Refer to NOTES for the detail of the drivers.
>
> I have now added `device sound' to the kernel configuration. But
> this doesn't make the sound module available. Also there isn't a
> /dev/mixer*.
>
> What does snd_* mean?
> I tried to add `device snd_pcm'. But this isn't accepted by config.
> Dmesg shows:
you need two device entries:
 	device	sound
and for example
 	device snd_ich
according to your specific sound device. Search 
/usr/src/sys/conf/NOTES for a complete list of supported devices.

Regards,

Uli.

>
> pci0: <multimedia, audio> at device 31.5 (no driver attached)
>
> What else is required?
>
> -Hanspeter
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On Sat, Aug 07, 2004 at 12:33:27PM -0400, Bryant Eadon wrote:
[...]
> 
> I know it's a 7200 RPM drive, with an 8MB cache and 200G of physical space
> ( ~ 186GB after formatting in NTFS), the Western Digital Special Edition
> 200G drive.
> 
> I want to restore my data, but I am scared to change the disklabel at the
> thought of losing the 150+G of data that is on the drive.  Can anyone PLEASE
> provide details on how I might be able to restore my data, right now I can't
> mount it anywhere?   Any help is appreciated.
> 

Try to mount it in read-only mode, some NTFS disks use to make crash my
boxes if I "forget" to add -o ro option in the mount command.

By default any mount operation is done in read/write mode.

Marc

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I would like to install both sysutils/coreutils and devel/id-utils,
but "portinstall id-utils" tells me that there is a conflict.  This
gave me the chance to learn about the program comm, and now I know
that the conflicting file is /usr/local/bin/gid.

What do I do?  Punt?

Kai

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On Aug 6, 2004, at 7:29 PM, Jay O'Brien wrote:

> I've learned that I need another partition to which I can write tar
> backups and then ftp them to one of my windows machines on my LAN.

How have you learned this lesson? Tar isn't really the best thing for 
backing up the OS. Besides, you don't need to backup the OS if you have 
the install CD and careful notes as to your selections during 
installation.

> So, I've tried to identify the optimum configuration for the
> rebuild of my machine to accommodate that need. I have a 120GB IDE
> HD, so I don't have space problems. I presently have 128MB of RAM,
> but it looks like I should plan to accommodate an increase to
> 1024GB in the future.
>
> I plan to host a few web pages, and hope to be able to ultimately
> run a MTA and mail lists using majordomo or mailman in the future.
> I have static IPs and permission to run a server on my internet
> access.

I think you will have to run your system a while guessing then 
reconfigure when you identify the deficiencies. A 120G HD is in the $70 
to $90 range these days so when the time comes to reconfigure just put 
another in with the new layout and shoot your data over.

A single root filesystem for the OS is possible but when disk space is 
so cheap then there are good reasons to stick with tradition of 
separate /, /var, /tmp, and /usr filesystems. One of the elegant 
beauties of mature Unix is how one can mount a new filesystem anywhere 
within the directory hierarchy which appears just like a directory to 
casual inspection. So when a 256MB /var isn't big enough to hold your 
/var/mail you could mount another partition on /var/mail or create a 
mail directory elsewhere and replace /var/mail with a symbolic link 
pointing at the new one.

Rather than a GB root filesystem with the entire OS on it let me 
suggest sticking with the defaults but limit /usr to 1GB (or 8GB as 
disk is cheap). Name the remainder something like /home. Segregate OS 
and utilities from user data. Put all user data and accounts here. 
Might symlink /var/mail to /home/mail/. Last time I tried, sysinstall 
was smart enough to notice /home was a fs and didn't try to create the 
symlink.

When using tar to do backups, bite off directories, not filesystems. 
For system backups keep a list of files which define your system: 
/etc/rc.conf, /etc/hosts, ... then use the -I option to tar to read 
that file list when performing the backup. Write your backups to a 
directory outside of the backup scope. I find /root/tar.filelist to be 
a good place to stash my precious file list.

If the tar archives are too big for the Windows machine then one can 
always chop them up into tarballs.

> A Reference says keep the root section small, another says include 
> /usr and
> /var in root, there's a discussion of the relative speed of the 
> outside of
> a spinning HD to the middle of the HD, there's not an agreement on the
> size of the swap space, and, as I said, I'm confused.

You don't say if this is 4.x or 5.x. If a 120G filesystem is dirty at 
mount time one might have to wait a long time on fsck. Possibly 
"background fsck" has been backported to 4.x, but is in 5.x and gets 
the system up and running faster. With traditional / there is very 
little changing on / with a running system so its much safer to mount / 
dirty. If / had user data then its more risky.

The rule of thumb says swap should always be twice core. I don't know 
if there is any overhead penalty for having too much. It is best to 
distribute one's swap across spindles for maximum performance.

--
David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net
========================================================================
Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad.

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In the last episode (Aug 07), Hanspeter Roth said:
> I have upgraded from 5.2.1-release to 5.2-current. On 5.2.1-release
> there was a device pcm for the sound module. This doesn't seem to be
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It's now called "sound", which makes a lot more sense :)  Also read the
20040716 entry in /usr/src/UPDATING.

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On Fri, Aug 06, 2004 at 10:50:39PM +0400, Andrew said:
> Hi!
> 
> I now need to test some applications, while keeping a part of the load
> on the Wingate machine. What I want to do is connect to internet via
> ADSL, using the bsd box, and let Wingate use the connection through the
> box.

I realise my previous reply indicated I didn't read your post thoroughly
enough, sorry!

Although, taking into account all of the information in my previous
message, you should be able to place WinGate in front of the BSD NAT box
and have your WinGate default gateway set to the BSD NAT box.

Alternatively, as I said earlier, it is preferable to let your router be
the default gateway of your network, and let the hosts go out through your
FreeBSD machine (or WinGate machine).

This way, you can configure a client's default gateway to *either* your
FreeBSD or WinGate machine, and everything from that point on will go out
through your router.  This won't work, unfortunately, if you have to
initiate your PPP connection from Windows or FreeBSD.  If you do, you'll
*have* to layer NAT on NAT to preserve both gateways.

Adam

> 
> What is the best way to retain most of the NAT functionality?
> If you are happy to not know what Wingate is, try to assume that it is
> just another nat-box. Can bsd somehow "forward" connection, so that the
> nat-box almost feels like it has a real IP?
> 
> Best regards,
> Andrew
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On Fri, Aug 06, 2004 at 10:50:39PM +0400, Andrew said:
> Hi!
> 
> What is the best way to retain most of the NAT functionality?
> If you are happy to not know what Wingate is, try to assume that it is
> just another nat-box. Can bsd somehow "forward" connection, so that the
> nat-box almost feels like it has a real IP?

Perhaps you should let your router do all the PPP, and then set the default
gateway on the hosts of your network to your FreeBSD machine (with it's
gateway set to the router).

However, if you're initiating a PPPoE session from FreeBSD or have some
other way that this is working, then you need only add the following lines
to FreeBSD to support NAT:

in /etc/rc.conf, add:

router_enable="YES"
gateway_enable="YES"

You should also consider adding, especially if your BSD machine is live to
the Internet, and not behind NAT itself:

firewall_enable="YES"
firewall_type="/etc/rc.firewall.rules"

where /etc/rc.firewall.rules is a plain text file in the following firewall
rule format:

[adam@nautilus /]$ less /etc/rc.firewall.rules 
add allow tcp from any to any 21
add allow tcp from any to any 25
add allow tcp from any to any 113
add allow udp from any to any 53 keep-state
add allow tcp from any to any 53
add allow udp from any to any 123 keep-state
add allow tcp from any to any 80
add allow tcp from any to any 22
add allow ip from me to any
add allow icmp from any to any
add allow ip from 10.0.0.0/24 to any
add allow tcp from any to any established
add allow ip from any to any frag


As you can see above, the rules I've included allow traffic from any to any
on several ports (ftp/dns/www/ssh, etc) and then the following five lines
allow IP, ICMP, IP traffic from the 10.0.0.0/24 network, and 'add allow tcp
from any to any established' (which is very important for NAT behind a
firewall) and frag (fragmented connections).

If you implement a firewall you will need that 'established' line, because
it allows TCP/IP traffic to flow from any host on the Internet to any host
via the socket (TCP connection to a host on a specific port) that was
established by the NAT client who initiated the connection.

ie, if client 10.0.0.1 requests http://www.freebsd.org:80, the NAT gateway,
according to 'allow tcp from any to any established' will allow traffic to
flow between www.freebsd.org to 10.0.0.1 on port 80 for the life of the
open socket.  Once that socket is closed by either end, it means the client
or the remote server can no longer communicate to each other unless a new
socket is opened by the NAT client.


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On Fri, Aug 06, 2004 at 05:29:56PM -0700, Jay O'Brien said:
> Here's where I am, and I would appreciate your collective comments. I'm 
> persuaded to use 1026MB for swap, 8GB for root (/), 30GB for /backup tars, 
> and the remainder for /home.  The /tmp, /usr, and /var directories would 
> be included in the 8MB root. Web pages and mailing lists would be in home. 
> I would be able to backup directories (or subdirectories) to tar files in 
> the backup directory of sizes that wouldn't choke my windows machines when 
> ftp'd to them for storage.

I use the following on my laptop:

Filesystem       Size   Used  Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/ad0s2a      248M    97M   131M    42%    /
/dev/ad0s2e      248M    17M   211M     7%    /tmp
/dev/ad0s2f       48G    11G    32G    26%    /usr
/dev/ad0s2d      248M    95M   133M    42%    /var

(some, such as devfs, trimmed from output)

If you are looking to build a production machine, it is recommended, if you
can calculate it, to create seperate partitions for /var and /tmp.  That
way if a program runs away and starts filling your system, with logs or
other garbage, it will fill the partition and not impact other critical
areas of your system.

On my server, I have a similar layout, however I'm using 1Gb each for /var
and /tmp.

You should give /usr a lot more than 8Mb, because as your system grows, so
will /usr/local.  All of my custom built software goes in /usr/local, and
as such you will need to give it a lot of room to move.

The FreeBSD ports collection also resides on /usr, and the more software
you compile, the more disk space it will need to extract and compile.  My
/usr/ports tree is currently 1.1Gb.  I don't clean it up very often, so
there are plenty of 'work' directories strewn throughout it.

/usr/src is also stored on the /usr partition, should you choose to install
it.  Mine is currently 368Mb.  You'll need disk space free on /usr if you
ever wish to recompile your kernel, as the compiling is all done in
/usr/obj.

The /home directory, by default, is also stored on /usr/home.   It is just
symlinked as part of a base install to /home.  Of course, you can make this
partition, like any other, completely seperate and give it any size you
like, but depending on the role of your system, you may just wish to set
your partition sizes for /, /tmp, /var, and then give the rest to /usr.
Unless you have a specific requirement for giving your home directories a
smaller amount of room, then you should do this.  If you don't have a
seperate disk for data, most of your data will get stored in your home
directory.

Where possible, I have always set up FreeBSD machines with two disks:  one
for the base system, including /usr, and the other I mount as /data.  This
disk is a physically seperate disk and I use it for data storage.  That way
I can take it out of one machine and put it into another without having to
worry that I'll be taking my core installation with it.


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  On Aug 07 at 18:34, Radek Kozlowski spoke:

> You didn't refer to the NOTES file (/usr/src/sys/conf/NOTES that is)
> like you were supposed to, did you? There's a section called Sound
> drivers that should explain everything.

Yes, I checked only the NOTES in /usr/src/sys/i386/conf.

Now it works with 'sound' and 'snd_ich' devices. Thanks!

-Hanspeter

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Hello Hanspeter:

Read the /usr/src/UPDATING and also take a look at the
/usr/src/sys/conf/NOTES.

But this is what it comes down to: adding device sound and device snd_*.
(removing device pcm or whatever you had there before of course)

I would recommend adding device sound to your kernel and even all the
snd_* drivers, until you find out which one worked...  Then remove the
rest and only leave the one that matched the specs of your pc.  Unless
of course you see your sound card on the /usr/src/sys/conf/NOTES and you
know exactly what snd_* you need.

something like this..

device          sound

device          "snd_ad1816"
device          "snd_als4000"
#device         "snd_au88x0"
device          snd_cmi
device          "snd_cs4281"
device          snd_csa
device          "snd_ds1"
device          "snd_emu10k1"
device          "snd_es137x"
device          snd_ess
device          "snd_fm801"
device          snd_gusc
device          snd_ich
device          snd_maestro
device          "snd_maestro3"
device          snd_mss
device          snd_neomagic
device          "snd_sb16"
device          "snd_sb8"
device          snd_sbc
device          snd_solo
device          "snd_t4dwave"
device          "snd_via8233"
device          "snd_via82c686"
device          snd_vibes
#device         "snd_vortex1"
device          snd_uaudio

hope this helps...

-Lester A. Mesa
-aka: mazpe

On Sat, 2004-08-07 at 11:18, Hanspeter Roth wrote:
>   On Aug 07 at 17:41, Radek Kozlowski spoke:
> 
> > Read /usr/src/UPDATING:
> > 
> > 20040716:
> >         The sound device drivers are renamed.  `sound' is always required,
> >         while `snd_*' should be configured accordingly to your hardware.
> >         Refer to NOTES for the detail of the drivers.
> 
> I have now added `device sound' to the kernel configuration. But
> this doesn't make the sound module available. Also there isn't a
> /dev/mixer*.
> 
> What does snd_* mean?
> I tried to add `device snd_pcm'. But this isn't accepted by config.
> Dmesg shows:
> 
> pci0: <multimedia, audio> at device 31.5 (no driver attached)
> 
> What else is required?
> 
> -Hanspeter
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I have Windows/XP install on my Dell 600 Notebook. Since with that 
Notebook I have the option of booting from a removable Ultrabay disk 
drive, I would like to install FreeBSD on the second drive.

The problem is that in order to initiate the installation whether I do 
it using FTP, HTTP or NFS, I have to remove the 2nd drive to replace it 
with a CD/DVD or Floppy drive to boot and start the install process.  It 
is during this initial phase that my notebook hardware is detected. 
Naturally at that time the 2nd drive is not in the ultrabay, so it is 
not detected, but either the floppy or CD/DVD drive is. Once the 
sysinstall program is running when I replace my boot device by the 2nd 
disk, I don't see the second drive when I try to define the partition.

I have a local net with a desktop already running FreeBSD and a FreeBSG 
5.1 bootable install CD.  Any suggestion how to proceed to install 
FreeBSD on the 2nd UltraBay drive of my Dell 600 Notebook.

Gilbert Laprise



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On Thu, 5 Aug 2004, Livhu Tshisikule wrote:

> I am trying to install a printer on my machine. It has a USB connector. With
> dmesg I can see that the printer has been detected as
>
> ulpt0: Olivetti Job_Jet M400, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 2, iclass 7/1
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> How can I test the printer?
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> I tried lptest but it printed garbages.

According to the Olivetti UK web page

http://www.olivettitecnost.co.uk

the M400 understands PCL3.  Find a sample PostScript document and try 
rendering it with GhostScript and sending to the printer:

gs -sDEVICE=pcl3 myfile.ps > /dev/ulpt0

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I recognize that I should be able to set up something using dhcp, nfs,
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ut's been done before.

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> Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2004 19:21:15 -0500
> From: Spumonti <spumonti@gmail.com>
> Subject: installation of FreeBSD 4.10 on Dell PowerEdge 650 fails
>        after   reboot with mountroot
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> Just tried installing FreeBSD 4.10 on a Dell PowerEdge 650.   No
> problems with the install, tried creating a partition with
> "dangerously dedicated" and also, just using the entire disk with
> standard bootmanager.
> 
> Each time, after the initial reboot I get an error:
> 
> Mounting root from ufs:ad0s1a
> Root mount failed: 6
> Mounting root from ufs:ad0a
> Root mount failed: 6
> 
> Manual root filesystem specification:
> <fstype>:<device> Mount <device> using filesystem <fstype>
> eg. ufs:/dev/da0s1a
> ? List valid disk boot devices
> <empty line> Abort manual input
> 
> mountroot>
> 
> I tried:
> 
> mountroot> ufs:/dev/ad4s1a
> 
> but that fails too.
> 
> The disk is a Seagate 120GB and it's actually ad4, not ad0.  If I
> interrupt the boot process at:
> 
> >>FreeBSD/i386 BOOT
> Default: 0:ad(0,a)/kernel
> boot:
> 
> and enter:
> 
> >>FreeBSD/i386 BOOT
> Default: 0:ad(0,a)/kernel
> boot: 0:ad(4,a)/kernel
> 
> the machine will boot properly.   I've tried two things I found while
> checking on this:
> 
> 1.  Adding to loader.conf:
> rootdev="disk4s1a"
> root_disk_unit=0"
> 
> 2.  Rebuilding the kernel and adding:
> options        ROOTDEVNAME=\"ufs:ad4s1a\"
> 
> Neither of which worked.    Is there something I'm missing while doing
> the installation?   If I look in  /dev   the devices are there ad4,
> ad4s1, ad4s1a, ad4s1b, etc.
> 
> About at wit's end ... any help would be great.
> 


I've been reading the booting section in the FreeBSD and have a
thought.   If during booting, I interrupt the process at:

>> FreeBSD/i386 BOOT
Default: 0:ad(0,a)/kernel
boot:

and manually type in:

>> FreeBSD/i386 BOOT
Default: 0:ad(0,a)/kernel
boot: 0:ad(4,a)/kernel

designating the device ad4 as the boot device, the computer boots
properly.  So in the handbook I see:

Example 12-2. boot2 Screenshot

>> FreeBSD/i386 BOOT
Default: 0:ad(0,a)/kernel
boot:

so I would have to make a change to boot2.   Yes?  No?   And I
followed the instructions, first writing a new mbr with:

fdisk -B -b /boot/boot0 ad4

and then:

disklabel -B /dev/ad4


But no joy ... machine still doesn't boot properly.  How can I
correctly change boot2 so it boots off of  ad4  instead of ad0 ?  What
am I missing?  I have a few other machines configured the same way so
I would like to learn what the problem is ... not just looking for an
easy answer.

Any information would be appreciated.

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On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 12:30:57 +0200
Erik Johnsson <erik@erikjohnsson.net> wrote:

> When I try to install FreeBSD 5.2.1 from floppies I get this when it tries to format the disk, the installation freezes(though caps lock work).
> 
> ad0 TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying(2 retries left) LBA=63
> ad0 DMA limited to UDMA33, non-ATA66 cable or device
> ad0 Warning - WRITE_DMA interrupt was seen but timeout failed.
> ad0 Warning - WRITE_DMA interrupt was seen but taskqueue stalled LBA=63
> 
> I've googled and I have yet to see a solution to this problem.


It was simply a broken cable. :)

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how about getting a usb floppy drive ?

Arden 

On Sat, 2004-08-07 at 20:07, Gilbert Laprise wrote:
> I have Windows/XP install on my Dell 600 Notebook. Since with that 
> Notebook I have the option of booting from a removable Ultrabay disk 
> drive, I would like to install FreeBSD on the second drive.
> 
> The problem is that in order to initiate the installation whether I do 
> it using FTP, HTTP or NFS, I have to remove the 2nd drive to replace it 
> with a CD/DVD or Floppy drive to boot and start the install process.  It 
> is during this initial phase that my notebook hardware is detected. 
> Naturally at that time the 2nd drive is not in the ultrabay, so it is 
> not detected, but either the floppy or CD/DVD drive is. Once the 
> sysinstall program is running when I replace my boot device by the 2nd 
> disk, I don't see the second drive when I try to define the partition.
> 
> I have a local net with a desktop already running FreeBSD and a FreeBSG 
> 5.1 bootable install CD.  Any suggestion how to proceed to install 
> FreeBSD on the 2nd UltraBay drive of my Dell 600 Notebook.
> 
> Gilbert Laprise
> 
> 
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On Sat, 7 Aug 2004, stan wrote:

> I've got a bunch of PC's that I would like to use as diskless
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'man diskless' has some information on netbooting, and there's a similar 
chapter in the Handbook.

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On 2004-08-06T01:28:04-0400, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote:
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t=20
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Have you looked into /usr/ports/sysutils/fastest_cvsup yet?

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That might work, but with the use of floppies going rapidly obsolete I 
would prefer not to buy an extra floppy drive.

I could use a 128MB SD card in a USB drive. However I am not sure it 
would be possible to format it as a bootable device and boot from it.  I 
am not sure either that just copying the content of the kernel, root and 
driver floppy onto it would do the job.

Gilbert

arden wrote:

> how about getting a usb floppy drive ?
> 
> Arden 
> 
> On Sat, 2004-08-07 at 20:07, Gilbert Laprise wrote:
> 
>>I have Windows/XP install on my Dell 600 Notebook. Since with that 
>>Notebook I have the option of booting from a removable Ultrabay disk 
>>drive, I would like to install FreeBSD on the second drive.
>>
>>The problem is that in order to initiate the installation whether I do 
>>it using FTP, HTTP or NFS, I have to remove the 2nd drive to replace it 
>>with a CD/DVD or Floppy drive to boot and start the install process.  It 
>>is during this initial phase that my notebook hardware is detected. 
>>Naturally at that time the 2nd drive is not in the ultrabay, so it is 
>>not detected, but either the floppy or CD/DVD drive is. Once the 
>>sysinstall program is running when I replace my boot device by the 2nd 
>>disk, I don't see the second drive when I try to define the partition.
>>
>>I have a local net with a desktop already running FreeBSD and a FreeBSG 
>>5.1 bootable install CD.  Any suggestion how to proceed to install 
>>FreeBSD on the 2nd UltraBay drive of my Dell 600 Notebook.
>>
>>Gilbert Laprise
>>
>>
>>
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Hi there,

I have a cron job that auto-cvs-updates the /usr/ports directories.

I want to update the portsdb and pkgdb as soon as cvsup has completed its
work.  I am using the following two commands to do this.  am I doing the right
thing?

---- snip ---

/usr/local/sbin/portsdb -uU
/usr/local/sbin/pkgdb -Fa

--- snip ---

cheers,

Noah

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Hi,
I CVSup's my system (FreeBSD 4.9-p2 #0) early this morning and found
the following in /usr/ports/CHANGES:

20040803:
AUTHOR: ade@FreeBSD.org
  As part of the ongoing autotools cleanup, devel/autoconf has been
  replaced with devel/autoconf253, and devel/automake with devel/automake15.
  Consumers of the various autotools knobs from bsd.autotools.mk should not
  notice any differences.  This update completes the transition of autotools
  to true versioned packages (cf: tcl/tk)

I just updated my watchlist in FreshPorts and it indicates that 
autoconf253 is
deprecated and should be replaced with /devel/autoconf259.  Similarly,
automake15 should be replaced with devel/automake18.  Is FreshPorts more
current?  If so, will the following correctly upgrade my system:

portupgrade -rfo /devel/automake automake
portupgrade -rfo /devel/autoconf autoconf

Thanks for your assistance.
Bob Perry


-- 
I've learned that whatever hits the fan will not be evenly
distributed.

FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE-p2 #0

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I have succesfully update my freebsd 5.2.1 using cvssup supfile-standard.
A month after that I decied to update again and put "tag=RELENG_5_2"
whc is osme sort of downgrade I think ..
I made build world succesfully, but when I tried to make build kernel I got
config: Error: device "ixgb" is unknown and more erro I do not remeber.
It was strane since I have not edited the kernel config file ?!
However I commeted the both trouble device I though useles: RAID 
controller and some intel 100/10Gb card.
Which turns to be a misatke since I could  not connect to that server 
any more. I sent request to the host to boot it with GENERIC kernel.
Aany advice is welcome :-)

Thannk in a advance.

Best regards,

Peter

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On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 14:43:27 -0800
"Noah" <admin2@enabled.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> Hi there,
> 
> I have a cron job that auto-cvs-updates the /usr/ports directories.
> 
> I want to update the portsdb and pkgdb as soon as cvsup has completed its
> work.  I am using the following two commands to do this.  am I doing the right
> thing?

Yes, but you could optimize it by using sysutils/portindex instead of
portsdb -U and run portsdb -u after it finishes. Except on the first run
you will see a *big* speed improvement.

> 
> ---- snip ---
> 
> /usr/local/sbin/portsdb -uU
> /usr/local/sbin/pkgdb -Fa
> 
> --- snip ---


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