From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 00:17:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34C5616A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 00:17:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [195.170.0.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 737DD43D31 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 00:17:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-a027.otenet.gr [212.205.215.27]) i9O0Hdwu028882; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 03:17:40 +0300 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i9O0HUfb026081; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 03:17:31 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id i9NLjuWG070234; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 00:45:56 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 00:45:55 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: John Oxley Message-ID: <20041023214555.GA4233@gothmog.gr> References: <42734323-2522-11D9-8790-000A95BE58A4@tf7.so-net.ne.jp> <20041023193924.GA52933@gothmog.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A good IDE for C development? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 00:17:45 -0000 On 2004-10-23 22:52, John Oxley wrote: > On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 22:39:24 +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > On 2004-10-24 03:35, Choy Kho Yee wrote: > > > Hi, I am a student of Computer Science. > > > I am looking for a good IDE(integrated development environment?) for > > > developing C programs. Something like netbeans for Java would be good. > > > Since I am still learning, I will mainly develop with source codes. > > > > Emacs is perfectly fine for most of this. > > Not to start a flame war on which is the better editor, but vim with > ctags is my way. Yeah, I know :-) I use both Emacs and vim, with reasonable levels of comfort. I haven't found a way to convince ctags that it's ok for a tag to appear multiple times (which can really be annoying when editing the sources of a kernel, where names are *bound* to appear multiple times), but I know what you mean. When I'm working remotely, on machines that I can't install Emacs, knowing how to do my work with vi/vim is extremely cool too. To the original poster. The UNIX way of working on large software projects, a lot of times, uses a different paradigm from the "all in one" philosophy of IDE environments that you might have gotten used to until now. There are two parts of working on a software project that are mostly important: - Source code browsing. - Building, linking and debugging. The first can be done remarkably well on UNIX, without the need for a special IDE, once you get used to making the best out of your editor and shell. A typical example of this is searching for the definition of a particular variable, function or macro in a large tree. Object browsers integrated with the commonly used IDEs help with that. The same can be done with a short grep command on UNIX. The need for complicated "search" dialogs that some IDEs have is non-existent here, in the UNIX world, because we don't need a special "integrated" environment to search our files ;-) If you use tools like ctags or etags, which John mentioned in the message I'm replying to, this can be done even faster. Moving from any file in the kernel tree of FreeBSD to the beginning of the ether_input() function that I mentioned above is as simple as hitting `ESC .' (that is ESC followed by a dot). The same can be done in vim with ^] (CTRL + closing bracket). The entire operation takes a few milliseconds. The same can be done for macros, variables, struct members, enums, typedefs, and a lot of other things. The building, linking and debugging of programs can also be done from within your editor; modern vi clones like vim and Emacs can compile any program, keep a log of the warnings and errors, show the compile output in a buffer, move from an error message to the correct line of source, etc. You don't *have* to use the editor/IDE to do that though, and this is even more comfortable at times. You mentioned that you're still learning, this is why I wrote this long post. Since you are learning, you might as well learn to work without the need for netbeans, eclipse, kdevelop or whatever :-) - Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 00:18:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B85016A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 00:18:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92.asp.att.net [204.127.203.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A2D843D46 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 00:18:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from david.fleck@mchsi.com) Received: from grond (12-216-10-157.client.mchsi.com[12.216.10.157]) by sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92) with SMTP id <20041024001832m9200k1abne>; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 00:18:33 +0000 Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 19:18:29 -0500 (CDT) From: David Fleck Sender: dcf@grond.sourballs.org To: cpghost@cordula.ws In-Reply-To: <20041023234116.GA2356@bsdbox.farid-hajji.net> Message-ID: <20041023191603.W2312@grond.sourballs.org> References: <20041023160610.W478@grond.sourballs.org> <20041023234116.GA2356@bsdbox.farid-hajji.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: David Fleck cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: IDE drive - "hard error reading fsbn..." - recoverable? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 00:18:34 -0000 On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 cpghost@cordula.ws wrote: > On Sat, Oct 23, 2004 at 05:26:27PM -0500, David Fleck wrote: >> Is this likely a one-time thing, or a symptom of creeping disk death? >> (The 'hard error' messages only started after the reboot.) > > You could try /usr/ports/sysutils/smartmontools to run S.M.A.R.T. > selftests on the drive. Thanks - unfortunately, that port is marked IGNORE for my version (4.9). Apparently I need 'ATAng', not sure if I can get that in the 4.x series... I suppose I could try moving to 5.2.x, but I was hoping to put that off a little longer - and I'd like to know my hardware is reliable first, really. -- David Fleck david.fleck@mchsi.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 00:19:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 234BF16A4CF for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 00:19:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from www.gotbrains.org (www2.gotbrains.org [206.180.149.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCF7943D46 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 00:19:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cravey@gotbrains.org) Received: from igor.gotbrains.org (eagle.spinneret.com [206.180.139.69]) by www.gotbrains.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2CAD7211C for ; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 19:19:58 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 19:19:57 -0500 From: "Stephen P. Cravey" To: questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20041023191957.139ba5ba.cravey@gotbrains.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.99 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Linksys WPC11 v.4 problems in 5.2, 5.2.1 and 5.3-RC1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 00:19:59 -0000 I've just purchased a new 802.11b pcmcia card for a laptop and I'm getting errors when I insert it. Is this card not supported yet, other than debug sysctls, is there anythgin else I should check? Yes, i did add pccard_enable to rc.conf. I'm running 5.3-RC1 at the moment, but I have the same problem with 5.2-R and 5.2.1-R. Since I have no network interface, I'm stuck with what I can install from CD. I've included (what I think is) the pertinent debugging info: Dmesg: cbb0: at device 7.0 on pci0 cardbus0: on cbb0 pccard0: <16-bit PCCard Bus> on cbb0 Insert: cardbus0: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) cbb0: CardBus card activation failed Debug Insert: Status is 0x300000820 cbb0: card inserted: event=0x00000000, state=30000820 cbb0: cbb_power: 3V TUPLE: LINKTARGET [3]: 43 49 53 Manufacturer ID: 00004c02 Functions: Network Adaptor, Multi-Functioned Function Extension: 0102 Function Extension: 0280969800 Function Extension: 0200e1f505 Function Extension: 040600e04c390010 TUPLE: Unknown(0x1c) [2]: 02 ff cardbus0: Opening BAR: type=IO, bar=10, len=0100 cardbus0: Opening BAR: type=MEM, bar=14, len=200 CIS reading done cardbus0: Non-prefetchable memory at 88000000-880001ff cardbus0: IO port at 1000-10ff cardbus0: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) cbb0: cbb_power: 0V cbb0: CardBus card activation failed Debug Remove: Status is 0x30000026 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 00:57:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EEDE16A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 00:57:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1029F43D3F for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 00:57:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from bsdbox.farid-hajji.net (bsdbox [192.168.254.3]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A032A4ADF7; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 02:56:43 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 02:59:00 +0200 From: cpghost@cordula.ws To: David Fleck Message-ID: <20041024005900.GA2558@bsdbox.farid-hajji.net> References: <20041023160610.W478@grond.sourballs.org> <20041023234116.GA2356@bsdbox.farid-hajji.net> <20041023191603.W2312@grond.sourballs.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041023191603.W2312@grond.sourballs.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: IDE drive - "hard error reading fsbn..." - recoverable? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 00:57:36 -0000 On Sat, Oct 23, 2004 at 07:18:29PM -0500, David Fleck wrote: > On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 cpghost@cordula.ws wrote: > >On Sat, Oct 23, 2004 at 05:26:27PM -0500, David Fleck wrote: > >>Is this likely a one-time thing, or a symptom of creeping disk death? > >> (The 'hard error' messages only started after the reboot.) > > > >You could try /usr/ports/sysutils/smartmontools to run S.M.A.R.T. > >selftests on the drive. > > Thanks - unfortunately, that port is marked IGNORE for my version (4.9). > Apparently I need 'ATAng', not sure if I can get that in the 4.x series... > I suppose I could try moving to 5.2.x, but I was hoping to put that off a > little longer - and I'd like to know my hardware is reliable first, > really. Ouch, sorry. I should've checked that this port worked with 4.x before writing. My mistake. You could try your luck with FreeSBIE Live-CD: http://www.freesbie.org/ I didn't try it, but AFAICS, it's 5.x-based, so you should be able to install smartmontools in the memory-based filesystem that FreeSBIE creates and then check your disk from that. Just give it a try. it *may* even work. > David Fleck > david.fleck@mchsi.com Regards, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 01:08:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3D6216A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 01:08:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailgw2.qatar.net.qa (mailgw2.qatar.net.qa [212.77.192.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD8DA43D53 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 01:08:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from eihab@qatar.net.qa) Received: from Eihab ([82.148.124.74]) by mailgw2.qatar.net.qa (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.17 (built Jun 23 2003)) with SMTP id <0I6200DQBDTOOS@mailgw2.qatar.net.qa> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 04:08:22 +0300 (QATAR) Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 04:07:53 +0300 From: "Eihab E. Ibrahim" To: Long Story Message-id: <011701c4b965$fe96aee0$0500a8c0@Eihab> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=windows-1256; reply-type=response Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pppoa problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 01:08:40 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Long Story" To: Cc: Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 2:56 AM Subject: Re: pppoa problem [...] > The ppp_enable,ppp_mode,ppp_profile is just to enable autodial, > but anyhow i have tried removing the options before i even send to > this list, > when I do start the box, the same error msg comes, firmeware not > found, mgmt.o [...] The adsl.sh script does exactly the same thing, when you have these options in rc.conf it conflicts with the adsl.sh as both try to initialize the modem and dial. The adsl.sh worked fine for me, just make sure you use only one method not both. Please accept my apologies for not reading your email thoroughly. It could be a problem with the firmware file you currently have. Try to download a fresh copy from: http://download.ethomson.com/download/speedmgmt.tar.gz and replace the mgmt.o with the one in this package. [...] > Im really sick of trying wish someone could help. Take a deep breath, it took me 3 days of searching to get this modem working decently :) Good luck. Eihab E. Ibrahim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 01:11:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4680316A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 01:11:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vjofn.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (vjofn.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com [204.107.90.128]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC7E643D31 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 01:11:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tuc@ttsg.com) Received: from himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (ool-44c09852.dyn.optonline.net [68.192.152.82]) (authenticated bits=128)i9O1BbPj038549; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 21:11:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (localhost.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com [127.0.0.1])id i9O1BXqZ006901; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 21:11:33 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tuc@ttsg.com) Received: (from tuc@localhost)i9O1BXAt006900; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 21:11:33 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tuc) From: Tuc Message-Id: <200410240111.i9O1BXAt006900@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> To: cpghost@cordula.ws Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 21:11:33 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <20041023234116.GA2356@bsdbox.farid-hajji.net> from "cpghost@cordula.ws" at Oct 24, 2004 01:41:16 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: David Fleck cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: IDE drive - "hard error reading fsbn..." - recoverable? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 01:11:44 -0000 > ### Test 1: > # smartctl -a ad0 | more > > ### Test 2: > # smartctl -t offline ad0 > > # smartctl -a ad0 | more > > ### Test 3: > # smartctl -t long ad0 > > # smartctl -a ad0 | more > Ok, done. (Oh, BTW, I was having errors like : ad0: FAILURE - READ_DMA status=51 error=40 LBA=112977771 ad0: FAILURE - READ_DMA status=51 error=40 LBA=112977803 ad0: FAILURE - READ_DMA status=51 error=40 LBA=112977835 so thought I'd do this too.... So now I see : Self-test execution status: ( 119) The previous self-test completed having the read element of the test failed. and SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1 Num Test_Description Status Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA _of_first_error # 1 Extended offline Completed: read failure 70% 4934 259 34873 So is there something I should do? 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 02:07:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1E3C16A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 02:07:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 811C143D31 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 02:07:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-160-246-51.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.160.246.51]) by pi.codefab.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i9O27JNw032101 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 23 Oct 2004 22:07:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <417B0E49.9060000@mac.com> Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 22:07:05 -0400 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tuc References: <200410240111.i9O1BXAt006900@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> In-Reply-To: <200410240111.i9O1BXAt006900@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.5 tests=AWL,UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=no version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on pi.codefab.com cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: IDE drive - "hard error reading fsbn..." - recoverable? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 02:07:26 -0000 Tuc wrote: > ad0: FAILURE - READ_DMA status=51 error=40 LBA=112977771 > ad0: FAILURE - READ_DMA status=51 error=40 LBA=112977803 > ad0: FAILURE - READ_DMA status=51 error=40 LBA=112977835 [ ...and SMART status... ] > So is there something I should do? Get a new hard drive, this one is not going to live much longer. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 02:36:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04E8E16A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 02:36:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx05.ms.so-net.ne.jp (mx05.ms.so-net.ne.jp [202.238.82.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7D5943D49 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 02:35:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from khoyee@tf7.so-net.ne.jp) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (p29c5d6.osakac00.ap.so-net.ne.jp [218.41.197.214]) by mx05.ms.so-net.ne.jp with ESMTP id i9O2ZtQW002129 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 11:35:57 +0900 (JST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) In-Reply-To: <20041023214555.GA4233@gothmog.gr> References: <42734323-2522-11D9-8790-000A95BE58A4@tf7.so-net.ne.jp> <20041023193924.GA52933@gothmog.gr> <20041023214555.GA4233@gothmog.gr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <83CC71D2-2565-11D9-8790-000A95BE58A4@tf7.so-net.ne.jp> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Choy Kho Yee Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 11:36:31 +0900 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Subject: Re: A good IDE for C development? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 02:36:01 -0000 On 2004/10/24, at 6:45, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2004-10-23 22:52, John Oxley wrote: >> On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 22:39:24 +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >>> On 2004-10-24 03:35, Choy Kho Yee wrote: >>>> Hi, I am a student of Computer Science. >>>> I am looking for a good IDE(integrated development environment?) for >>>> developing C programs. Something like netbeans for Java would be >>>> good. >>>> Since I am still learning, I will mainly develop with source codes. >>> >>> Emacs is perfectly fine for most of this. >> >> Not to start a flame war on which is the better editor, but vim with >> ctags is my way. > > You mentioned that you're still learning, this is why I wrote this > long post. > Since you are learning, you might as well learn to work without the > need for > netbeans, eclipse, kdevelop or whatever :-) > > - Giorgos Ok, after hearing all your advices, I think I had better stick with emacs and learn to configure it to work with me better. Thanks. And one more question, how did you guys learn to configure emacs? Is there any good material on the web which I can follow easily? --- Choy Kho Yee url: http://dotkoyi.infoseek.ne.jp/ blog: http://dotkoyi.blogspot.com/ "There are only 10 types of people in the world, i.e. those who understand binary numbers and those who do not." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 02:46:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BA3016A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 02:46:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dave.horsfall.org (mrdavi2.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.75.233]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12FED43D3F for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 02:46:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by dave.horsfall.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i9O2k5j04851 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 12:46:05 +1000 (EST) Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 12:46:05 +1000 (EST) From: Dave Horsfall To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20041015125113.G68950@mippet.ci.com.au> <20041015092119.GA93093@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: Getting LD_LIBRARY_PATH to work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 02:46:11 -0000 On Sat, 16 Oct 2004, Dave Horsfall wrote: [ Anyone can post to -questions ] > Gawd; I hope it's moderated in that case... And several spams later, received via this very list... So, is this list a spam-magnet i.e any spammer can post to it without fear? If so, not only have you just lost me as a potential contributor, but it's going to get listed as such. There is *no* excuse for running an open mailing list any more. -- Dave From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 02:53:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97CE916A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 02:53:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vjofn.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (vjofn.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com [204.107.90.128]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B98943D54 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 02:53:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tuc@ttsg.com) Received: from himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (ool-44c09852.dyn.optonline.net [68.192.152.82]) (authenticated bits=128)i9O2rkPj041737; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 22:53:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (localhost.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com [127.0.0.1])id i9O2rjPP000636; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 22:53:45 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tuc@ttsg.com) Received: (from tuc@localhost)i9O2riJc000634; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 22:53:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tuc) From: Tuc Message-Id: <200410240253.i9O2riJc000634@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> To: cswiger@mac.com (Chuck Swiger) Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 22:53:44 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <417B0E49.9060000@mac.com> from "Chuck Swiger" at Oct 23, 2004 10:07:05 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: IDE drive - "hard error reading fsbn..." - recoverable? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 02:53:47 -0000 > > Tuc wrote: > > ad0: FAILURE - READ_DMA status=51 error=40 > LBA=112977771 > > ad0: FAILURE - READ_DMA status=51 error=40 LBA=112977803 > > ad0: FAILURE - READ_DMA status=51 error=40 LBA=112977835 > [ ...and SMART status... ] > > So is there something I should do? > > Get a new hard drive, this one is not going to live much longer. > Problem is, unless it fails the Dell Power on IDE test, they won't replace it. :-/ Guess I just keep backing it up until it fails totally. Thanks, Tuc/TTSG Internet Services, Inc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 03:21:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E9F416A4CF for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 03:21:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B103F43D4C for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 03:21:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id v18so141374rnb for ; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 20:21:57 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=WV3Be1ARVxgPMCKIXmm5MqYRqdyc47nKSucJXdXjugktOxFG2mairw0MYC0OdH09zjNHCSNVcKjHfcwNR7P3xNK6Ae89WlldnqYM/vy+4A+IQ4e4/GbIGASEU9f3bjGorunGTANaTIQzq2kjEYAoIW8ti1I3M0Qri/1ajzb0F+o= Received: by 10.38.179.77 with SMTP id b77mr1221420rnf; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 20:21:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.206.40 with HTTP; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 20:21:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 08:51:57 +0530 From: Subhro To: Choy Kho Yee In-Reply-To: <83CC71D2-2565-11D9-8790-000A95BE58A4@tf7.so-net.ne.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <42734323-2522-11D9-8790-000A95BE58A4@tf7.so-net.ne.jp> <20041023193924.GA52933@gothmog.gr> <20041023214555.GA4233@gothmog.gr> <83CC71D2-2565-11D9-8790-000A95BE58A4@tf7.so-net.ne.jp> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A good IDE for C development? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Subhro List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 03:21:58 -0000 On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 11:36:31 +0900, Choy Kho Yee wrote: > And one more question, how did you guys learn to configure emacs? > Is there any good material on the web which I can follow easily? > man emacs. And start emacs, then C-h C-t Regards S. -- Subhro Sankha Kar School of Information Technology Block AQ-13/1 Sector V ZIP 700091 India From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 03:31:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D4C416A4CF for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 03:31:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from splinter.bowdoin.edu (rocksteady.bowdoin.edu [139.140.34.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBA0643D3F for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 03:31:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alec@thened.net) Received: by splinter.bowdoin.edu (Postfix, from userid 12008) id 1299E1422; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 23:29:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 23:29:46 -0400 From: Alec Berryman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041024032946.GA1992@thened.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <42734323-2522-11D9-8790-000A95BE58A4@tf7.so-net.ne.jp> <20041023193924.GA52933@gothmog.gr> <20041023214555.GA4233@gothmog.gr> <83CC71D2-2565-11D9-8790-000A95BE58A4@tf7.so-net.ne.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Ned-Wuz-Here: Yes X-GPG-Fingerprint: 3DB5 8785 53D9 8BF4 5049 B6B9 02E7 7FD9 881C 85C4 X-GPG-Key: http://www.thened.net/~alec/static/alec.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Subject: Re: A good IDE for C development? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 03:31:26 -0000 --vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable begin quotation of Subhro on 2004-10-24 08:51:57 +0530: > On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 11:36:31 +0900, Choy Kho Yee > wrote: >=20 > > > And one more question, how did you guys learn to configure emacs? > > Is there any good material on the web which I can follow easily? > >=20 >=20 > man emacs.=20 > And start emacs, then C-h C-t http://www.emacswiki.org/ is also an incredible resource. It's run by the guys in #emacs on freenode, who are quite friendly. --vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBeyGpAud/2YgchcQRAn/KAJ9KMyN+rKvCvsqUrb1eTvtuRFTI2ACbB01X k4ae2F2EK0VJs0qS39bkTH8= =J4uh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 03:36:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98F9816A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 03:36:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mproxy.gmail.com (mproxy.gmail.com [216.239.56.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80FA243D58 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 03:36:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dfindlay@gmail.com) Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id q44so55052cwc for ; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 20:36:35 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=E8LBD6UV/nJ6r329OgT1nFThIAwJMxzu4PgIoIPsXPje+DSp1lfwHD9+6A/qZNFYRcFTYp/xls7iKKuC+cIzplK3MAFm+xYdVYYdvb3DDDC3KQjYkLgovrZVfNt//g/BRUibpoFbJtQ1/U4tI7CH3Pcn0WLhFlkOPI42m7EI7nA= Received: by 10.11.116.63 with SMTP id o63mr109255cwc; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 20:36:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.11.118.10 with HTTP; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 20:36:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 23:36:34 -0400 From: David Findlay To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: FreeBSD 5.3 RC1 X Config X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: David Findlay List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 03:36:35 -0000 I am a first time user of FreeBSD. I burned copies of the 5.3 RC1 install disks 1 and 2. I booted from the 1st disk and went through the standard install, selecting All packages. The handbook says there is a configuration option for the X server but it never gets to this for me, nor can I find it from the sysinstall menu anywhere. Thinking I'd done something wrong I ran the install again and the same thing happened. In each case the standard install does be base copies then lets you pick yuor distribution, and I pick all,then it ask for some config like the mouse, ttys, timezone, users, root password. Finally it asks if I'd like to go back the config menu to make some final changes. Once I say yes I am back in the configuration menu and there's no way out that doesn't just exit sysinstall, which may be where it would go if I'd said no. So I have a bootable FreeBSD system with X and KDE packages installed but not configured. Am I supposed to go run xorgconfig by hand from a regular shell afterwards? This asks for monitor vsync etc like the old linux ones did; the newer ones let you pick your monitor by name - I was hoping the X configuration I can't find in sysinstall would do this too. Also, if I do the xorgconfig, how do I configure it to run KDE on top of X? Any tips greatly appreciated. Thanks, Dave From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 03:44:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAFFA16A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 03:44:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from splinter.bowdoin.edu (rocksteady.bowdoin.edu [139.140.34.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7188943D31 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 03:44:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alec@thened.net) Received: by splinter.bowdoin.edu (Postfix, from userid 12008) id 709AC14F7; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 23:42:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 23:42:28 -0400 From: Alec Berryman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041024034228.GB1992@thened.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="EuxKj2iCbKjpUGkD" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Ned-Wuz-Here: Yes X-GPG-Fingerprint: 3DB5 8785 53D9 8BF4 5049 B6B9 02E7 7FD9 881C 85C4 X-GPG-Key: http://www.thened.net/~alec/static/alec.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.3 RC1 X Config X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 03:44:08 -0000 --EuxKj2iCbKjpUGkD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline begin quotation of David Findlay on 2004-10-23 23:36:34 -0400: > So I have a bootable FreeBSD system with X and KDE packages installed > but not configured. Am I supposed to go run xorgconfig by hand from a > regular shell afterwards? This asks for monitor vsync etc like the old > linux ones did; the newer ones let you pick your monitor by name - I > was hoping the X configuration I can't find in sysinstall would do > this too. I'd give 'Xorg -configure' a shot (from console as root). Xorg's autoconfiguration has worked much better for me than XFree86's. See the Handbook [1] for more information. [1] http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html --EuxKj2iCbKjpUGkD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBeySkAud/2YgchcQRAv/nAJ9pq1fKtdFWQV70uv4Oz+QEhKASpACfd+0k ro88xeInLdV2I1TT1J86feQ= =eugl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --EuxKj2iCbKjpUGkD-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 03:48:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4744916A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 03:48:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from auk2.snu.ac.kr (auk2.snu.ac.kr [147.46.100.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDBB343D54 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 03:48:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from spamrefuse@yahoo.com) Received: from [147.46.44.181] (spamrefuse@yahoo.com) by auk2.snu.ac.kr (Terrace Internet Messaging Server) with ESMTP id 2004102412:48:33:979294.7481.2924624816 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 12:48:33 +0900 (KST) Message-ID: <417B261B.2050201@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 12:48:43 +0900 From: Rob User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041017 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD References: <20041015125113.G68950@mippet.ci.com.au> <20041015092119.GA93093@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-TERRACE-SPAMMARK: YES-__TRSYS_LV__3 (SR:-5.24) (SRN:SPAMROBOT) ----------------- Subject: Public FreeBSD lists vs. spammers and our private email addresses X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 03:48:47 -0000 Dave Horsfall wrote: > On Sat, 16 Oct 2004, Dave Horsfall wrote: > > [ Anyone can post to -questions ] > > >>Gawd; I hope it's moderated in that case... > > > And several spams later, received via this very list... > > So, is this list a spam-magnet i.e any spammer can post to it without > fear? If so, not only have you just lost me as a potential contributor, > but it's going to get listed as such. There is *no* excuse for running an > open mailing list any more. I think spamfilters are doing already a good job here; spam that makes it through to the lists, seems to be fairly small. In addition, I believe it's the policy of the list maintainers, to keep the thresshold as low as possible for participation in the Q&A. You can avoid subscription by following the newsgroup instead (e.g. on gmane). However, there's a more serious problem: all emails to the FreeBSD lists are propagated to public newsgroups and archives with the original (private) email addresses unmodified. Since the newsgroups and archives are public, it's a great source of email addresses for spammers. Especially innocent people, who just want to ask a question, will suffer, since they may realize too late (if not even never realizing at all!) that the lists are actually advertising their private email addresses on the public newsgroups and archives. It would be much better if propagation to the newsgroups and archives would scramble the private email addresses, to make such lists unusable for collectors of email addresses for sending spam. Rob. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 04:05:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52F0D16A4CF for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 04:05:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from grog.secure-computing.net (grog.secure-computing.net [63.228.14.241]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D250643D1F for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 04:05:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) Received: from [63.228.14.242] (theologicka.secure-computing.net [63.228.14.242]) (authenticated bits=0)i9O45is3041221 for ; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 23:05:45 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-1-24393376" To: FreeBSD Questions From: Eric Crist Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 23:04:37 -0500 X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.0.2 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version 0.75.1, clamav-milter version 0.75c on grog.secure-computing.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Mailing List Search function on FreeBSD website X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 04:05:39 -0000 --Apple-Mail-1-24393376 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Hello all, How could I have a search capability similar to that of the FreeBSD website? I thought it was a feature of pipermail, but it's not looking like that's the case. I'm not very good at coding, so I was hoping there is some sort of port or plugin for pipermail. TIA ----- Eric F Crist Secure Computing Networks --Apple-Mail-1-24393376 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkF7KdYACgkQRAAY9knOW+q4igCcDRZqyRfQOYVfOc9Dm+gogIUh ZW4An0x7KC7H3tAlZMDtRd0zxAWGtRXd =9lrU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-1-24393376-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 04:11:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3738E16A4CF for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 04:11:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (creme-brulee.marcuscom.com [24.172.16.118]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD0F843D1D for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 04:11:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Received: from [192.168.1.20] (roti.marcuscom.com [192.168.1.20]) i9O49VR0056554; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 00:09:33 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Message-ID: <417B2B7D.3000500@marcuscom.com> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 00:11:41 -0400 From: Joe Marcus Clarke Organization: MarcusCom, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Macintosh/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eric Crist References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on creme-brulee.marcuscom.com cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Mailing List Search function on FreeBSD website X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 04:11:46 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Eric Crist wrote: | Hello all, | | How could I have a search capability similar to that of the FreeBSD | website? I thought it was a feature of pipermail, but it's not looking | like that's the case. I'm not very good at coding, so I was hoping | there is some sort of port or plugin for pipermail. You can build the mailman port with htdig support (which is was what FreeBSD.org uses). It's a snap to setup. Just define WITH_HTDIG when building mailman, then follow the included documentation (or read Defaults.py) for enabling htdig with pipermail/mailman. Joe | | TIA | | ----- | Eric F Crist | Secure Computing Networks - -- PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFBeyt9b2iPiv4Uz4cRAkBvAJ4nHwh7yeX8ofsigH4+LOUunpZjGACfVr0I Sa8UA5cAyWhW5hfzcxkH9gM= =gBNj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 04:22:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA98F16A4CF for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 04:22:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from grog.secure-computing.net (grog.secure-computing.net [63.228.14.241]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 693A343D1F for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 04:22:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) Received: from [63.228.14.242] (theologicka.secure-computing.net [63.228.14.242]) (authenticated bits=0)i9O4MIRD041431; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 23:22:19 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) In-Reply-To: <417B2B7D.3000500@marcuscom.com> References: <417B2B7D.3000500@marcuscom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-2-25387815" Message-Id: <23276B10-2574-11D9-AEDF-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Eric Crist Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 23:21:12 -0500 To: Joe Marcus Clarke X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.0.2 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version 0.75.1, clamav-milter version 0.75c on grog.secure-computing.net X-Virus-Status: Clean cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Mailing List Search function on FreeBSD website X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 04:22:12 -0000 --Apple-Mail-2-25387815 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Oct 23, 2004, at 11:11 PM, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Eric Crist wrote: > | Hello all, > | > | How could I have a search capability similar to that of the FreeBSD > | website? I thought it was a feature of pipermail, but it's not > looking > | like that's the case. I'm not very good at coding, so I was hoping > | there is some sort of port or plugin for pipermail. > > You can build the mailman port with htdig support (which is was what > FreeBSD.org uses). It's a snap to setup. Just define WITH_HTDIG when > building mailman, then follow the included documentation (or read > Defaults.py) for enabling htdig with pipermail/mailman. > > Joe Is this something I can simply do a make deinstall && make -DWITH_HTDIG reinstall without destroying my current mailing lists? I'm new to the whole mailman/mailing list stuff. thanks! ----- Eric F Crist Secure Computing Networks --Apple-Mail-2-25387815 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkF7LbgACgkQRAAY9knOW+okSwCfQ1eNlKCODK/Gd8t1a9fKD93l zLgAoIad95MY5NmoD3mHJqfpEw5q6IXW =lXHJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-2-25387815-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 04:24:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBB3E16A4CF for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 04:24:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FA6243D1F for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 04:24:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) i9O4OAq68425; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 21:24:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Danny MacMillan" Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 21:24:10 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: <20041023074515.GB920@procyon.nekulturny.org> cc: Nell Weems cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: [OT] Sapir-Whorfian Advertising Clause (was Advertising clause in license) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 04:24:45 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Danny MacMillan > Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 12:45 AM > > Be that as it may, the term "advertising clause" seems strictly > definitive, as it pertains to a clause that refers to advertising. > That much at least seems obvious from what Nell fgrep'd for. I > don't disagree with the substance of your point, but it is counter- > productive to redefine language to suit one's political agenda. > No it is not. People find it productive to redefine language to suit their political agenda all the time. The original term out of the license was not "advertising clause". The original term, right out of the license, was "acknowledgement" The GPL crowd found themselves sounding like a bunch of ungrateful spoiled brats when they originally tried telling people the BSD license was bad because it "had a clause that required you to acknowledge the copyright holders" So, they did a bit of creative doublespeak and came up with the slur "advertising clause" Since advertising is associated with commercial activities, this carried an instant negative connotation in the free software community. The GPL bigots didn't even have to explain what an advertising clause was, the mere presense of the word "advertising" was enough to set people against the acknowledgement clause. Notice how just changing the term back to the real term "acknowledgement clause" removes the negative connotation and lets the truth of what it really is show through? You are very naieve if you think that words and phrases don't carry negative connotations, or by chance are you in the habit of using terms like "nigger", Danny boy? The very name FreeBSD was defined to suit a political agenda. While you may not like living in a world that uses language as a weapon, that's the kind of world most people live in, and you better get used to operating in it. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 04:29:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 815F116A4D0 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 04:29:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gizmo10bw.bigpond.com (gizmo10bw.bigpond.com [144.140.70.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6AF2A43D5C for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 04:29:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ekeberg@bigpond.net.au) Received: (qmail 32547 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2004 04:29:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO BWMAM17.bigpond.com) (144.135.24.116) by gizmo10bw.bigpond.com with SMTP; 24 Oct 2004 04:29:35 -0000 Received: from cpe-144-137-204-71.sa.bigpond.net.au ([144.137.204.71]) by BWMAM17.bigpond.com(MAM REL_3_4_2a 279/99048326) with SMTP id 99048326; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:29:35 +1000 From: Hugh Ekeberg To: David Findlay Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:59:19 +0930 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410241359.19342.ekeberg@bigpond.net.au> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.3 RC1 X Config X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 04:29:39 -0000 I found the same thing with this release. I never found the configuration utilities in other versions of BSD's "sysinstall" to work for me anyway. In my opinion it is much better to follow the instructions in the release of the handbook which comes with FreeBSD-5.3 and set up X by hand. On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:06, David Findlay wrote: > I am a first time user of FreeBSD. I burned copies of the 5.3 RC1 > install disks 1 and 2. > I booted from the 1st disk and went through the standard install, > selecting All packages. > The handbook says there is a configuration option for the X server but > it never gets to this for me, nor can I find it from the sysinstall > menu anywhere. Thinking I'd done something wrong I ran the install > again and the same thing happened. In each case the standard install > does be base copies then lets you pick yuor distribution, and I pick > all,then it ask for some config like the mouse, ttys, timezone, users, > root password. Finally it asks if I'd like to go back the config menu > to make some final changes. Once I say yes I am back in the > configuration menu and there's no way out that doesn't just exit > sysinstall, which may be where it would go if I'd said no. > > So I have a bootable FreeBSD system with X and KDE packages installed > but not configured. Am I supposed to go run xorgconfig by hand from a > regular shell afterwards? This asks for monitor vsync etc like the old > linux ones did; the newer ones let you pick your monitor by name - I > was hoping the X configuration I can't find in sysinstall would do > this too. > > Also, if I do the xorgconfig, how do I configure it to run KDE on top of X? > > Any tips greatly appreciated. > Thanks, > Dave > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 04:30:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAC4016A4CF for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 04:30:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (creme-brulee.marcuscom.com [24.172.16.118]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAF9F43D39 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 04:30:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Received: from [192.168.1.20] (roti.marcuscom.com [192.168.1.20]) i9O4SMfQ056655; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 00:28:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Message-ID: <417B2FE8.30109@marcuscom.com> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 00:30:32 -0400 From: Joe Marcus Clarke Organization: MarcusCom, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Macintosh/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eric Crist References: <417B2B7D.3000500@marcuscom.com> <23276B10-2574-11D9-AEDF-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> In-Reply-To: <23276B10-2574-11D9-AEDF-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on creme-brulee.marcuscom.com cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Mailing List Search function on FreeBSD website X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 04:30:36 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Eric Crist wrote: | On Oct 23, 2004, at 11:11 PM, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: | |> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- |> Hash: SHA1 |> |> Eric Crist wrote: |> | Hello all, |> | |> | How could I have a search capability similar to that of the FreeBSD |> | website? I thought it was a feature of pipermail, but it's not looking |> | like that's the case. I'm not very good at coding, so I was hoping |> | there is some sort of port or plugin for pipermail. |> |> You can build the mailman port with htdig support (which is was what |> FreeBSD.org uses). It's a snap to setup. Just define WITH_HTDIG when |> building mailman, then follow the included documentation (or read |> Defaults.py) for enabling htdig with pipermail/mailman. |> |> Joe | | | Is this something I can simply do a make deinstall && make -DWITH_HTDIG | reinstall without destroying my current mailing lists? I'm new to the | whole mailman/mailing list stuff. Should be fine, but just to be safe, you should backup your current data if you're already using mailman. Joe | | thanks! | ----- | Eric F Crist | Secure Computing Networks - -- PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFBey/nb2iPiv4Uz4cRArP5AKCJGTCfTNzIdloo0HbOvqkV06jRWwCgg9Zv LZvEPfTIYSqoO9WnF0EFxGo= =fN6f -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 04:37:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE1F116A4CF for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 04:37:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1348B43D41 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 04:37:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from garya@dreamchaser.org) Received: from [12.32.36.74] (imagination.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.74]) i9O4bgVY021554 for ; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 22:37:42 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from garya@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <417B31A5.7000904@dreamchaser.org> Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 22:37:57 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.5.3 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.73]); Sat, 23 Oct 2004 22:37:43 -0600 (MDT) Subject: structure of res_query answer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 04:37:45 -0000 Can anyone give me a pointer to what the structure is of the answer returned by res_query? The man page is kinda useless in this regard. The particular query of interest is an MX record lookup. Thanks, Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 05:02:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 637A216A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 05:02:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (hobbiton.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3577E43D1F for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 05:02:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.161.247.57] (helo=[192.168.99.66]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.43) id 1CLaWV-000CLa-Oe for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 23:02:33 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) In-Reply-To: <20041023014300.33f7e5af@vixen42.24-119-122-191.cpe.cableone.net> References: <20041023014300.33f7e5af@vixen42.24-119-122-191.cpe.cableone.net> Message-Id: From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 23:02:29 -0600 To: FreeBSD questions list X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.161.247.57 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.0 (2004-09-13) on hobbiton.shire.net X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_20 autolearn=disabled version=3.0.0 X-Spam-Level: X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.1+cvs (built Mon, 23 Aug 2004 08:44:05 -0700) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on hobbiton.shire.net) Subject: Re: "stress" testing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 05:02:33 -0000 On Oct 23, 2004, at 12:43 AM, Vulpes Velox wrote: > On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 22:14:06 -0600 > "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" wrote: > >> Hi >> >> In reading one of the various performance threads recently in either >> >> -questions or -current, I seem to recall someone mentioning a >> utility that can be used to do some sort of "stress" testing. The >> reference was in a man page style [ command(n) ] type reference in >> the thread. I though I saved it but cannot find it. Is there some >> sort of port or utility or command that can do general >> system/sub-system stress testing? >> >> I don't have any specific needs or requirements. The reference just >> >> looked interesting and I wanted to look into the facility mentioned >> to see what it does and if it would be useful to me somehow to >> stress new systems etc. > > You may find something of interest under the bench marking section of > the ports tree > Thanks to all who replied in-list or off-list. Thanks Chad From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 06:05:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABC3E16A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 06:05:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dave.horsfall.org (mrdavi2.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.75.233]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A88D43D31 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 06:04:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by dave.horsfall.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i9O64uF05276 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:04:57 +1000 (EST) Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:04:55 +1000 (EST) From: Dave Horsfall To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <417B261B.2050201@yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20041015125113.G68950@mippet.ci.com.au> <20041015092119.GA93093@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> <417B261B.2050201@yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: Public FreeBSD lists vs. spammers and our private email addresses X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 06:05:01 -0000 On Sun, 24 Oct 2004, Rob wrote: > I think spamfilters are doing already a good job here; spam that makes > it through to the lists, seems to be fairly small. In addition, I > believe it's the policy of the list maintainers, to keep the thresshold > as low as possible for participation in the Q&A. You can avoid > subscription by following the newsgroup instead (e.g. on gmane). So it's already filtered? OK, I guess I'll stay :-) > However, there's a more serious problem: all emails to the FreeBSD lists > are propagated to public newsgroups and archives with the original > (private) email addresses unmodified. Since the newsgroups and archives > are public, it's a great source of email addresses for spammers. That is indeed a *huge* problem, and should be addressed. > Especially innocent people, who just want to ask a question, will > suffer, since they may realize too late (if not even never realizing at > all!) that the lists are actually advertising their private email > addresses on the public newsgroups and archives. And these are the ones who will tell their friends: "I tried FreeBSD, and since then I've got all this spam!" Not good for the cause. And in case anyone's wondering, I block by source, not by content. > It would be much better if propagation to the newsgroups and archives > would scramble the private email addresses, to make such lists unusable > for collectors of email addresses for sending spam. Trivial to do; just replace "@" with something that a machine cannot easily parse. -- Dave From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 06:10:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB15916A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 06:10:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp104.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp104.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.169.223]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A1F7B43D49 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 06:10:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from benwy_01@yahoo.com.au) Received: from unknown (HELO ?210.54.96.181?) (benwy?01@210.54.96.181 with plain) by smtp104.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Oct 2004 06:10:10 -0000 Message-ID: <417B47B2.3080608@yahoo.com.au> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 19:12:02 +1300 From: Ben Washington-Yule User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040918 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Why can't on install packages for 5-current on 5-release? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 06:10:11 -0000 Hi all, I'm beginning to understand the diffs between -STABLE, -CURRENT and RELEASE but I have a question regarding packages. I am using 5.2.1-RELEASE, and "pkg_add -r mozilla" installs version 1.5 or thereabouts of mozilla, 1.7 being the latest stable release. I have noticed that there is a much more recent (1.7) package of mozilla available from "packages-5-current"; can I install this package on my 5.2.1-RELEASE computer? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 06:18:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 998A616A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 06:18:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp105.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp105.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.169.225]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 89BA643D49 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 06:18:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from benwy_01@yahoo.com.au) Received: from unknown (HELO ?210.54.96.181?) (benwy?01@210.54.96.181 with plain) by smtp105.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Oct 2004 06:18:15 -0000 Message-ID: <417B4998.20505@yahoo.com.au> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 19:20:08 +1300 From: Ben Washington-Yule User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040918 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Which "mozilla" accepts options X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 06:18:16 -0000 Hi all, "mozilla -help" gives loads of options, the ones I'm interested in are -height and -width , but I have on my computer /usr/X11R6/bin/mozilla (a shell script), /usr/X11R6/lib/mozilla/mozilla (also a shell script) and /usr/X11R6/lib/mozilla/mozilla-bin (an executable), which of the "mozilla"s do I pass options to? I have tried all of them with little success. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 06:44:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5160F16A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 06:44:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2795843D48 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 06:44:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D1245514AD; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 23:45:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 23:45:06 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Dave Horsfall Message-ID: <20041024064506.GA67423@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20041015125113.G68950@mippet.ci.com.au> <20041015092119.GA93093@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Getting LD_LIBRARY_PATH to work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 06:44:35 -0000 --ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 12:46:05PM +1000, Dave Horsfall wrote: > On Sat, 16 Oct 2004, Dave Horsfall wrote: >=20 > [ Anyone can post to -questions ] >=20 > > Gawd; I hope it's moderated in that case... >=20 > And several spams later, received via this very list... >=20 > So, is this list a spam-magnet i.e any spammer can post to it without=20 > fear? If so, not only have you just lost me as a potential contributor,= =20 > but it's going to get listed as such. There is *no* excuse for running a= n=20 > open mailing list any more. Meanwhile, back in the real world, we like to be able to help our users by letting them easily post questions. Kris --ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBe09yWry0BWjoQKURAvEAAKCRiFdG+dXjWTJYw1nu1M3+hG44AQCgjBYx i6c484TeveEKwA1VbOnx4W8= =AUXB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 06:52:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D55416A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 06:52:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 476CF43D49 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 06:52:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 24FB15150F; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 23:53:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 23:53:23 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Ben Washington-Yule Message-ID: <20041024065323.GB67423@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <417B47B2.3080608@yahoo.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="3lcZGd9BuhuYXNfi" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <417B47B2.3080608@yahoo.com.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why can't on install packages for 5-current on 5-release? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 06:52:54 -0000 --3lcZGd9BuhuYXNfi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 07:12:02PM +1300, Ben Washington-Yule wrote: > Hi all, >=20 > I'm beginning to understand the diffs between -STABLE, -CURRENT and=20 > RELEASE but I have a question regarding packages. I am using=20 > 5.2.1-RELEASE, and "pkg_add -r mozilla" installs version 1.5 or=20 > thereabouts of mozilla, 1.7 being the latest stable release. I have=20 > noticed that there is a much more recent (1.7) package of mozilla=20 > available from "packages-5-current"; can I install this package on my=20 > 5.2.1-RELEASE computer? No, later versions of 5.x are not binary compatible with older. That's because it's a development branch. You have more leeway to do what you want on -stable branches, but even then it's not always going to work. Kris --3lcZGd9BuhuYXNfi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBe1FjWry0BWjoQKURAhR7AJ9VrCKXMddb8fuIh00QJ6xKasWt0wCfcFEP m1kjMq2kTlu1V84fFvkORaw= =V8R4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --3lcZGd9BuhuYXNfi-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 06:56:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6872916A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 06:56:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dave.horsfall.org (mrdavi2.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.75.233]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 877AE43D2D for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 06:56:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by dave.horsfall.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i9O6uVY05372 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:56:31 +1000 (EST) Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:56:31 +1000 (EST) From: Dave Horsfall To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20041024064506.GA67423@xor.obsecurity.org> Message-ID: References: <20041015125113.G68950@mippet.ci.com.au> <20041015092119.GA93093@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> <20041024064506.GA67423@xor.obsecurity.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: Getting LD_LIBRARY_PATH to work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 06:56:35 -0000 On Sat, 23 Oct 2004, Kris Kennaway wrote: > Meanwhile, back in the real world, we like to be able to help our users > by letting them easily post questions. And nothing's stopping them from doing so. In which real world are you? -- Dave From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 06:56:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2420516A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 06:56:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-gw.ttk.tusur.ru (ms-gw.ttk.tusur.ru [212.192.163.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C40243D1D for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 06:56:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from baguio_sun@ms.tusur.ru) Received: from localhost (ms.tusur.ru [212.192.163.26]) by ms-gw.ttk.tusur.ru (Postfix) with SMTP id 27AA0AFF9 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:56:29 +0700 (TSD) X-AV-Checked: Sun Oct 24 13:56:29 2004 Ok Received: from baguio (unknown [212.192.123.86]) by ms-gw.ttk.tusur.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B8F0AFF3 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:56:22 +0700 (TSD) Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:56:00 +0700 From: baguio_sun@ms.tusur.ru X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1421157984.20041024135600@ms.tusur.ru> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on ms.tusur.ru X-Spam-DCC: : X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-102.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,NO_REAL_NAME, PRIORITY_NO_NAME,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=no version=2.64 Subject: PikoBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: baguio_sun@ms.tusur.ru List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 06:56:47 -0000 Can anyone tell me where can I obtain the latest version of PicoBSD from? Any link will be appreciated. And another question: who is developing this project? FreeBSD team or ...? -- Best regards, baguio mailto:baguio_sun@ms.tusur.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 07:01:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92B7216A4CE; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 07:01:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org (nezlok.unixathome.org [66.154.97.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58B5443D3F; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 07:01:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@nezlok.unixathome.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD2EB5749; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 00:10:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (nezlok.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 61408-07; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 00:10:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D14AB5696; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 00:10:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20041024071001.D14AB5696@nezlok.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 00:10:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at unixathome.org Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2004-10-03 - 2004-10-23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 07:01:50 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. 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Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . -- Dan Langille BSDCan - http://www.BSDCan.org/ - BSD Conference From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 07:03:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A961016A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 07:03:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E12243D2F for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 07:03:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A6154513E3; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 00:04:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 00:04:30 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: baguio_sun@ms.tusur.ru Message-ID: <20041024070430.GA70101@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <1421157984.20041024135600@ms.tusur.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="IJpNTDwzlM2Ie8A6" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1421157984.20041024135600@ms.tusur.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PikoBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 07:03:58 -0000 --IJpNTDwzlM2Ie8A6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 01:56:00PM +0700, baguio_sun@ms.tusur.ru wrote: > Can anyone tell me where can I obtain the latest version of PicoBSD > from? Any link will be appreciated. > And another question: who is developing this project? FreeBSD team or > ...? It's been unmaintained and undeveloped for several years now, unfortunately. You can still use the build framework to build your own images, but it's probably going to require a bit of work. Kris --IJpNTDwzlM2Ie8A6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBe1P+Wry0BWjoQKURAtGiAJ9YGG84eHZdoqSzerx0xiQPHwRjzQCg5zQX Hp/yJp7G+q2Bm5th/Ymww0c= =Yb0j -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --IJpNTDwzlM2Ie8A6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 08:04:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3184216A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 08:04:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pd3mo3so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6D5843D41 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 08:04:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from flowers@users.sourceforge.net) Received: from pd2mr1so.prod.shaw.ca (pd2mr1so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.110]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0I62006KCX384Z40@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 02:04:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml5so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.149]) by pd2mr1so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0I6200K95X2RWXN0@pd2mr1so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 02:04:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from sirius (S0106000c41b2b9a3.cg.shawcable.net [68.144.45.143]) 2003))freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 02:04:03 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 02:04:04 -0600 From: Dan MacMillan In-reply-to: To: Ted Mittelstaedt , Danny MacMillan Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal cc: Nell Weems cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: [OT] Sapir-Whorfian Advertising Clause (was Advertising clausein license) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 08:04:21 -0000 > From: Ted Mittelstaedt > > From: Danny MacMillan > > > > Be that as it may, the term "advertising clause" seems strictly > > definitive, as it pertains to a clause that refers to advertising. > > That much at least seems obvious from what Nell fgrep'd for. I > > don't disagree with the substance of your point, but it is counter- > > productive to redefine language to suit one's political agenda. > > No it is not. People find it productive to redefine language to > suit their political agenda all the time. > > The original term out of the license was not "advertising clause". The > original term, right out of the license, was "acknowledgement" I can only refer you to the license itself, which contains both "advertising" and "acknowledgement": 3. All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this software must display the following acknowledgement: This product includes software developed by the University of California, Berkeley and its contributors. > The GPL crowd found themselves sounding like a bunch of ungrateful > spoiled brats when they originally tried telling people the BSD license > was bad because it "had a clause that required you to acknowledge the > copyright holders" > > So, they did a bit of creative doublespeak and came up with the > slur "advertising clause" > > Since advertising is associated with commercial activities, this > carried an instant negative connotation in the free software > community. The GPL bigots didn't even have to explain what an advertising > clause was, the mere presense of the word "advertising" was enough to set > people against the acknowledgement clause. > > Notice how just changing the term back to the real term "acknowledgement > clause" removes the negative connotation and lets the truth of > what it really is show through? > > You are very naieve if you think that words and phrases don't carry > negative connotations, or by chance are you in the habit of using > terms like "nigger", Danny boy? > > The very name FreeBSD was defined to suit a political agenda. While > you may not like living in a world that uses language as a weapon, > that's the kind of world most people live in, and you better get > used to operating in it. > > Ted You're bringing a lot of baggage to this discussion. As long as people focus on what the words are instead of what they mean they will always be easy prey to the next group of "bigots" that walk through the door. That was my sole point. Let's consider language as a weapon for a moment. You paint your- self as a knee-jerk reactionary by using emotionally charged pejoratives like "GPL bigots" and "Linux bigots". You further marginalize yourself through the use of dismissive diminutives like "Danny boy". These are tactics that may be effective if your goal is to ridicule someone, but not if you want to communicate. By employing them, you make it easy for outside observers to pigeonhole you into a mental category and discount your arguments and your point of view, regardless of their essential merit. That portrays neither you nor FreeBSD in a positive light. To the other list readers, I apologize for the increasingly irrelevant diversion. This is the last word you will hear from me on the subject. -- Danny From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 08:47:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09A3216A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 08:47:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A46D743D48 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 08:47:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-160-246-51.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.160.246.51]) by pi.codefab.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i9O8kbPw078628 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 24 Oct 2004 04:47:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <417B6BEC.7070106@mac.com> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 04:46:36 -0400 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tuc References: <200410240253.i9O2riJc000634@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> In-Reply-To: <200410240253.i9O2riJc000634@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.5 tests=AWL autolearn=ham version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on pi.codefab.com cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: IDE drive - "hard error reading fsbn..." - recoverable? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 08:47:12 -0000 Tuc wrote: >>[ ...and SMART status... ] >> >>> So is there something I should do? >> >>Get a new hard drive, this one is not going to live much longer. > > Problem is, unless it fails the Dell Power on IDE test, they won't > replace it. :-/ Guess I just keep backing it up until it fails totally. Get a Dell diagnostic disk for your system, and run the hard drive test. It ought to see the problems, which you can then report back to Dell in order to get them to do something. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 08:57:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF90316A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 08:57:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from auk1.snu.ac.kr (auk1.snu.ac.kr [147.46.100.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7230B43D1F for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 08:57:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from spamrefuse@yahoo.com) Received: from [147.46.44.181] (spamrefuse@yahoo.com) by auk1.snu.ac.kr (Terrace Internet Messaging Server) with ESMTP id 2004102417:53:42:174997.15513.2932865968 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 17:53:42 +0900 (KST) Message-ID: <417B6E4F.4030005@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 17:56:47 +0900 From: Rob User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041017 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD References: <20041015125113.G68950@mippet.ci.com.au> <20041015092119.GA93093@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> <417B261B.2050201@yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-TERRACE-SPAMMARK: YES-__TRSYS_LV__3 (SR:-3.92) (SRN:SPAMROBOT) ----------------- Subject: Re: Public FreeBSD lists vs. spammers and our private email addresses X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 08:57:01 -0000 Dave Horsfall wrote: > >>It would be much better if propagation to the newsgroups and archives >>would scramble the private email addresses, to make such lists unusable >>for collectors of email addresses for sending spam. > > > Trivial to do; just replace "@" with something that a machine cannot > easily parse. LyX (TeX Editor) is also monitored on gmane; my private email address on lyx/gmane shows up as: spamrefuse-WhGre650n7FQFI55V6+gNQ@public.gmane.org Noone who can revert that into a useful email address! Same should be applied to FreeBSD lists, if you ask me. Rob. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 09:31:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D0C716A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 09:31:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97ED543D39 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 09:31:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) i9O9VDq69573; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 02:31:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Dan MacMillan" Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 02:31:13 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: cc: Nell Weems cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: [OT] Sapir-Whorfian Advertising Clause (was Advertising clause in license) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 09:31:20 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan MacMillan [mailto:flowers@users.sourceforge.net] > Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 1:04 AM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt; Danny MacMillan > Cc: Nell Weems; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: RE: [OT] Sapir-Whorfian Advertising Clause (was Advertising > clause in license) > > > > From: Ted Mittelstaedt > > > From: Danny MacMillan > > > > > > Be that as it may, the term "advertising clause" seems strictly > > > definitive, as it pertains to a clause that refers to advertising. > > > That much at least seems obvious from what Nell fgrep'd for. I > > > don't disagree with the substance of your point, but it is counter- > > > productive to redefine language to suit one's political agenda. > > > > No it is not. People find it productive to redefine language to > > suit their political agenda all the time. > > > > The original term out of the license was not "advertising clause". The > > original term, right out of the license, was "acknowledgement" > > I can only refer you to the license itself, which contains both > "advertising" and "acknowledgement": > > 3. All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this software > must display the following acknowledgement: following ACKNOWLEDGEMENT In this context, the required text is labeled as an acknowledgement, not as advertising. > This product includes software developed by the University of > California, Berkeley and its contributors. > > > The GPL crowd found themselves sounding like a bunch of ungrateful > > spoiled brats when they originally tried telling people the BSD license > > was bad because it "had a clause that required you to acknowledge the > > copyright holders" > > > > So, they did a bit of creative doublespeak and came up with the > > slur "advertising clause" > > > > Since advertising is associated with commercial activities, this > > carried an instant negative connotation in the free software > > community. The GPL bigots didn't even have to explain what an > advertising > > clause was, the mere presense of the word "advertising" was > enough to set > > people against the acknowledgement clause. > > > > Notice how just changing the term back to the real term "acknowledgement > > clause" removes the negative connotation and lets the truth of > > what it really is show through? > > > > You are very naieve if you think that words and phrases don't carry > > negative connotations, or by chance are you in the habit of using > > terms like "nigger", Danny boy? > > > > The very name FreeBSD was defined to suit a political agenda. While > > you may not like living in a world that uses language as a weapon, > > that's the kind of world most people live in, and you better get > > used to operating in it. > > > > Ted > > You're bringing a lot of baggage to this discussion. > We are both guilty of that. And why may I ask are the additional issues "baggage"? Most people do like to understand things, you know. It is not really possible to understand complex issues by boiling them down to nothing, after all. Your statement is along the lines of "Now children, this is grownup talk that you won't understand, go away and play" > As long as people focus on what the words are instead of what they > mean they will always be easy prey to the next group of "bigots" > that walk through the door. That was my sole point. > Yes, this is a valid point. I understand it and I think most educated people on this list understand it. I thought Nell understood it which is why I figured it was worth correcting her or him. That is why I REQUESTED that the initial poster not use a derogatory term. They are of course free to use whatever term they want - but they deserve to know at least that it is derogatory. I did not think the initial poster was asking for a lesson in semantics along with my request - you however chose to argue the request. > Let's consider language as a weapon for a moment. You paint your- > self as a knee-jerk reactionary by using emotionally charged > pejoratives like "GPL bigots" and "Linux bigots". Whoah, there. I use the term GPL bigots because there ARE GPL bigots. I did not say at any point that ALL GPL advocates are bigots. The same is true of use of the term Linux bigots. Not all who are Linux advocates are bigots, and not all who are GPL advocates are bigots. To put it in mathematical terms, the set of GPL bigots is a subset ot GPL advocates. I would not tarnish the set of GPL advocates with the ugly actions of their bigoted subset. Why are you seeming to want me to do so? And as for painting myself, no I'm not doing that. YOU are attempting to label me as a knee-jerk reactionary. I personally don't think you have succeeded in doing so. > You further > marginalize yourself through the use of dismissive diminutives > like "Danny boy". Your prior post argued: "it is counter-productive to redefine language to suit one's political agenda." But guess what, you are taking offence in my use of the term "danny boy" through your label of it as a dismissive diminutive. As my intent was to get you to take offence - in order to shake you up out of your mental rut - I have succeeded in doing so. Therefore, redefining you with the label "danny boy" worked, thus you yourself have served as the proof against your assertion that redefining language is counter-productive. Quite obviously it is productive as it worked for me, on you. > These are tactics that may be effective if your > goal is to ridicule someone, but not if you want to communicate. > By employing them, you make it easy for outside observers to > pigeonhole you into a mental category and discount your arguments > and your point of view, regardless of their essential merit. Anyone reading who isn't possessed of at least a 10th grade education level will undoubtedly jump to this conclusion. I have no problem with this. I don't waste time trying to educate those who do cannot grasp meaning from a sentence. > That > portrays neither you nor FreeBSD in a positive light. > How exactly is FreeBSD portrayed negatively by what -I- say? You are arguing out of both sides of your mouth here. In one instance you claim that redefining words is counterproductive because it doesen't work. Now you are arguing that something can be negatively impacted by my redefinition of words? > To the other list readers, I apologize for the increasingly > irrelevant diversion. This is the last word you will hear from > me on the subject. > Now your appointing yourself judge of what the rest of the list thinks is irrelevant. But, I do at least thank you for allowing me the last word. Just admit that language has power and that it's a mistake to misuse that power, by doing stuff like using derogatory terms like "advertising clause" You already said in your first point that you didn't disagree with this, although that is somewhat suspect in light of your following post. It's easy enough to just come all the way in the door and admit what is obvious to everyone else. In summary: "advertising clause" with respect to the BSD license is a deragotory term coined by GPL and Linux bigots.*** Do not use it. Instead use the correct term: "acknowledgement clause" because that is what it is. ***In case you didn't know, a GPL bigot is someone who believes that the GPL license is superior to all other licenses, including the BSD license. A Linux bigot is the same - they believe that Linux is superior to all other OS's including FreeBSD. And also, the biggest GPL bigot on the planet - RMS - is NOT particularly a fan of Linux. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 09:54:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 635A916A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 09:54:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01C9E43D5D for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 09:54:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) i9O9s9q69643; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 02:54:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: , Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 02:54:09 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: <19f.2b030216.2eac37bc@aol.com> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 09:54:26 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of TM4525@aol.com > Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 3:40 PM > To: stefan@swebase.com > Cc: questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows > > > In a message dated 10/23/04 11:27:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > stefan@swebase.com writes: > > > >I have tried searching for this but i only get reports made by students > >and private programmers, i trust a programmer more than a large > >corporation any day but to show a person i know and convince him i need > >some serious investigations made by large corporations into comparing > >BSD and Windows systems in various areas. I would love to get some links > >that some of you have in your bookmarks on this. The person i'm trying > >to convince is a hardcore MS fan so i need real evidence of why BSD is > >better than MS products in server environments. > > >Some friends of mine have told me that yahoo, msn and microsoft all use > >FreeBSD but until i can show him that and prove it to him that means > >nothing. > > > Better for what? Every product is better at some things and > weaker at others. > You can argue that a BMW 325 is "better" than a 540 if you are concerned > about gas prices, and its certainly more cost effective if your > only use for > the > car is to go a short distance to work or the stores. > > Also, programmers have different criteria than non-programmers. > Big companies > are concerned with the ability to find people to administer their > systems. > There > are more people around that can administer MS systems than unix, Yes, > and it can > be done with a lower level of talent. . Having seen and dealing with the aftermath of networks owned by people that thought that, I have to state your out of your gourd. Windows today is just as complex as any UNIX system. Sure, maybe a decade ago a peer-to-peer network of Windows systems your statement might have been true, but not today. > A car enthusiast might > prefer older, > pre-computer cars because they're easier to tinker with. They are, that's news to me! I'll take a computerized engine any day over fighting rust encroachment in a 25 year old or older vehicle. And you just try getting parts for a 1976 Datsun. > I know more than a > few people, > small businessmen mostly, who have been completely screwed because their > almost > totally incompetent unix tech guy left the company. > For every small businessman screwed over this way there are ten times the number who have been screwed over by incompetent Windows tech guys. Being a screwed over small businessman because your key tech person went away and turned out to be incompetent is just a sad fact of life. Most small businessman are small businessman simply because they don't like working for large companies, ie: they want to be their own boss. That is all fine and good but the personality type that wants to be completely in control of their business, ie: be "their own boss" is generally the same personality type that does not want to hire a computer tech and tell them "I don't care how you do it or how much it costs, all I want is for you to get it working reliably" Instead, they are the type that wants to review every last expenditure and does not want to give any shred of control to the computer tech guy, because after all, they didn't go setup their own company just to be bossed around by the computer tech guy, now did they? It is a rare small businessman who wants to be their own boss and yet has the ability to understand that they need to focus on their core competency and turn over control of the computers to someone else. And such people generally when they start small companies, such companies don't stay small very long, so those people end up running large companies. The problem here is that the boss didn't hand the poster a task and say "get it done and don't bother me with the details, and if you can't get it working you don't get paid" The problem is the boss don't know shit from shinola, read on an InFlight magazine that Windows is better, and thinks that makes him competent to micromanage the guy he's hired to do the work. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 10:00:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B74016A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 10:00:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A12E43D49 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 10:00:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) i9OA0Qq69675; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 03:00:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Rob" , "FreeBSD" Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 03:00:26 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: <417B6E4F.4030005@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: Public FreeBSD lists vs. spammers and our private emailaddresses X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 10:00:31 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Rob > Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 1:57 AM > To: FreeBSD > Subject: Re: Public FreeBSD lists vs. spammers and our private > emailaddresses > > > Dave Horsfall wrote: > > > >>It would be much better if propagation to the newsgroups and archives > >>would scramble the private email addresses, to make such lists unusable > >>for collectors of email addresses for sending spam. > > > > > > Trivial to do; just replace "@" with something that a machine cannot > > easily parse. > > LyX (TeX Editor) is also monitored on gmane; my private email > address on lyx/gmane shows up as: > > spamrefuse-WhGre650n7FQFI55V6+gNQ@public.gmane.org > > Noone who can revert that into a useful email address! > > Same should be applied to FreeBSD lists, if you ask me. > Is it really too much to assume that if a person is smart enough to figure out how to subscribe to the mailing list that they have had enough experience with mailing lists to have learned that if they are concerned about spam to just use a throwaway e-mail address? Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 10:16:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A28416A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 10:16:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from delicious.stderror.at (stdin.stderror.at [213.229.63.234]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DED043D1D for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 10:16:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pinhead@delicious.stderror.at) Received: by delicious.stderror.at (Postfix, from userid 501) id 418D2F4F55; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 10:03:08 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 10:03:07 +0200 From: Toni Schmidbauer To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041024080307.GA841@stderror.at> Mail-Followup-To: questions@freebsd.org References: <20041023191957.139ba5ba.cravey@gotbrains.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041023191957.139ba5ba.cravey@gotbrains.org> Phone: +43 664 3502198 X-WWW-Home-Page: http://stderror.at X-PGP-Fingerprint: 53F2 28AE 8070 83E0 AFEC 0ABC BBF9 A34A 3ED1 3287 X-Operating-System: Darwin User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: Re: Linksys WPC11 v.4 problems in 5.2, 5.2.1 and 5.3-RC1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: toni@stderror.at List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 10:16:14 -0000 --vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Oct 23, 2004 at 07:19:57PM -0500, Stephen P. Cravey wrote: > I've just purchased a new 802.11b pcmcia card for a laptop and I'm > getting errors when I insert it. Is this card not supported yet, other > than debug sysctls, is there anythgin else I should check? Yes, i did > add pccard_enable to rc.conf. as far as i can tell, the wpc11 v4 doesn't use a prism chipset. v3 has a prism chip which is perfectly supported. a friend of mine had the same problems with the v4. i don't know which chipset is in the v4, but it looks like it isn't supported. thank linksys, for that move... hth, toni --=20 Wer es einmal so weit gebracht hat, dass er nicht | toni at stderror dot at mehr irrt, der hat auch zu arbeiten aufgehoert | Toni Schmidbauer -- Max Planck | --vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFBe2G7u/mjSj7RMocRArDaAJ9fKJyFKWAC/DFnEfiW83jbxYrmgACfSU4X jQ/q3J3M6ARh+JCbWURgHkg= =SJgu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 10:44:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC7B216A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 10:44:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from idesigns.net (idesigns.net [209.239.38.159]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7883543D1D for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 10:44:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from software@schmittnet.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (ct-seymour2d-19.wtrbct.adelphia.net [68.71.172.19]) by idesigns.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9OAiMGZ012020 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 06:44:24 -0400 Message-ID: <417B8791.20705@schmittnet.com> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 06:44:33 -0400 From: "Bill Schmitt (SW)" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6+ (Windows/20041018) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Portinstall question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 10:44:26 -0000 I think I'm missing something basic, so if someone could point me to where that is, I would appreciate it. I been installing software using portinstall, but I think I'm missing something basic because there seems to be more guesswork involved that I expected there to be. How do you know what name to use for the portinstall to work? For example, I wanted to install MySQL 41. The folders under /usr/ports/databases include several variations on my-sql. Among others are mysql323-server, mysql40-server, mysql41-server, and mysql50-server. In the Makefile for mysql41 it states PORTNAME?= mysql. But trying "portinstall mysql" or "portinstall mysql41" or "portinstall mysql41-server" all result in a message that the port doesn't exist. The command that works is "portinstall mysql-server", which I found with a basic google search, but I don't find that in the descriptions or Makefiles. Looking just at what is in the ports tree (or anywhere else on a 4.9 system), where would I properly find that name? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 11:41:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBDE916A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 11:41:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp106.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp106.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.169.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A345343D31 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 11:41:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nicholas_wieland@yahoo.it) Received: from unknown (HELO pixie.subbacultcha.home) (nicholas?wieland@81.211.211.195 with login) by smtp106.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Oct 2004 11:41:10 -0000 Received: by pixie.subbacultcha.home (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A3A4AC033; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:41:11 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:41:11 +0200 From: Nicholas Wieland To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041024114111.GA70657@pixie.subbacultcha.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-GPG-KeyID: 1024D/0DAA3925 X-GPG-Fingerprint: D3C2 DB93 DF6A 601B A32B CEB1 4020 7E71 0DAA 3925 X-Request-GPG: hkp://subkeys.pgp.net X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.3-RC1 Subject: Audigy 2, Inspire and FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 11:41:11 -0000 Hi all. I'm a FreeBSD user from abuot two years now, and I love it. I have a machine in my home network that I use as a "multimedia station" - i.e. something that my family can use to listen to music or watch a DVD without specific knowledge. I'm very happy with it, and my family too, so thanks to the FreeBSD hackers for such a piece of software ! Now, I'd really like to try the official emu10k1 driver for my Audigy 2 (now I'm using http://chibis.persons.gfk.ru/audigy/), but firstly I'd like to ask if there's something like the emuctrl tool that ships with the unofficial driver. The "problem" is that I have an Inspire system - 6 speakers + 1 subwoofer - and I don't know how to control the volume of every single speaker. Does FreeBSD support a beast like mine ? FreeBSD pixie.subbacultcha.home 5.3-RC1 FreeBSD 5.3-RC1 #8: Thu Oct 21 13:35:12 CEST 2004 root@pixie.subbacultcha.home:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SUBBACULTCHA i386 Example of emuctrl tunables: Id Description Vol RecVol FX (PCM) buses fx0 DSP FX BUS 0 100:100 (0:0) DSP Inputs in0 AC97 Codec 0:0 (0:0) in1 CD S/PDIF 0:0 (0:0) in2 Optical S/PDIF 0:0 (0:0) in4 Line-In (2) 0:0 (0:0) in5 Coaxial S/PDIF 0:0 (0:0) in6 AUX2 0:0 (0:0) DSP Outputs out0 DIGITAL: Front 0:0 out1 DIGITAL: Center 0 out2 DIGITAL: Subwoofer 0 out3 Headphones 0:0 out4 DIGITAL: Rear 0:0 out5 Front 100:100 out6 Center 100 out7 Subwoofer 100 out9 Rear 100:100 out10 AC97 ?? 0:0 out13 A/D converter (REC) 0:0 TIA, ngw From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 11:43:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C393316A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 11:43:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay12-f22.bay12.hotmail.com [64.4.35.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC7BC43D45 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 11:43:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from spiraleyedgirl@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 04:43:00 -0700 Received: from 69.150.133.32 by by12fd.bay12.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 11:42:38 GMT X-Originating-IP: [69.150.133.32] X-Originating-Email: [spiraleyedgirl@hotmail.com] X-Sender: spiraleyedgirl@hotmail.com From: "Spiral Eyed Girl" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 04:42:38 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Oct 2004 11:43:00.0488 (UTC) FILETIME=[9D297080:01C4B9BE] Subject: Upgrading KDE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 11:43:00 -0000 Hello, I am trying to upgrade KDE, using make install in the ports directory, and I get this error: ===> kdelibs-3.3.0_2 conflicts with installed package(s): kdebase-3.1.4 They install files into the same place. Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1). and I try to do a "portupgrade kde" and get this error: Stale dependency: kde-3.1.4 --> openldap-client-2.1.23 -- manually run 'pkgdb -F' to fix, or specify -O to force. How do I upgrade KDE without using pkg_delete? Or is that the only way to do it? Thanks _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 12:07:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FFAE16A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 12:07:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from www.wcborstel.nl (wcborstel.demon.nl [82.161.134.53]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7EA543D1F for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 12:07:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jorn@wcborstel.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.wcborstel.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 319E441E5; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:07:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from www.wcborstel.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (www.wcborstel.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28038-02; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:07:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from www.wcborstel.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.wcborstel.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F08341A5; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:07:21 +0200 (CEST) From: "Jorn Argelo" To: "Spiral Eyed Girl" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:07:21 +0100 Message-Id: <20041024120443.M12704@wcborstel.nl> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.41 20040926 X-OriginatingIP: 82.161.134.53 (jorn) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at mail.wcborstel.nl Subject: Re: Upgrading KDE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 12:07:28 -0000 On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 04:42:38 -0700, Spiral Eyed Girl wrote > Hello, I am trying to upgrade KDE, using make install in the ports > directory, and I get this error: > > ===> kdelibs-3.3.0_2 conflicts with installed package(s): > kdebase-3.1.4 > > They install files into the same place. > Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1). > > and I try to do a "portupgrade kde" and get this error: You should use portupgrade -Rr. > > Stale dependency: kde-3.1.4 --> openldap-client-2.1.23 -- manually > run 'pkgdb -F' to fix, or specify -O to force. Well, I suggest you do as it says. Run pkgdb -F ;) > > How do I upgrade KDE without using pkg_delete? Or is that the only > way to do it? AFAIK, running pkg_delete with a huge port as KDE is going to give problems. I would suggest you try the above mentioned things first. Cheers, Jorn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 12:07:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1A9616A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 12:07:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nagual.st (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [217.122.132.217]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF6D043D48 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 12:07:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.st) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 1000) by nagual.st with local; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:07:14 +0200 Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:07:14 +0200 To: freebsd-questions Message-ID: <20041024120714.GA20545@pooh.nagual.st> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i From: Dick Hoogendijk Subject: ps and command args X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 12:07:44 -0000 I used to be able to see the command arguments given with the program to start with when I did a "ps -aux" I miss an option which makes the program arguments visible but I can't find out which one it is.. With the new startup files for pure-ftpd in which the command_args contain the arguments I wnat to make sure pure-ftpd startup with the options that are defined! Please give me a hint.. -- dick -- http://www.nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 4.10 ++ Debian GNU/Linux (Woody) + Nai tiruvantel ar vayuvantel i Valar tielyanna nu vilja From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 12:10:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FDE716A4CF for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 12:10:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from www.wcborstel.nl (wcborstel.demon.nl [82.161.134.53]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A75543D54 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 12:10:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jorn@wcborstel.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.wcborstel.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DF2C41E5; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:10:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from www.wcborstel.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (www.wcborstel.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28203-03; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:10:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from www.wcborstel.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.wcborstel.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6479B41A5; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:10:18 +0200 (CEST) From: "Jorn Argelo" To: "Bill Schmitt (SW)" , questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:10:18 +0100 Message-Id: <20041024120804.M61191@wcborstel.nl> In-Reply-To: <417B8791.20705@schmittnet.com> References: <417B8791.20705@schmittnet.com> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.41 20040926 X-OriginatingIP: 82.161.134.53 (jorn) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at mail.wcborstel.nl Subject: Re: Portinstall question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 12:10:22 -0000 On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 06:44:33 -0400, Bill Schmitt (SW) wrote > How do you know what name to use for the portinstall to work? For > example, I wanted to install MySQL 41. The folders under > /usr/ports/databases include several variations on my-sql. Among > others are mysql323-server, mysql40-server, mysql41-server, and > mysql50-server. In the Makefile for mysql41 it states PORTNAME?= > mysql. But trying "portinstall mysql" or "portinstall mysql41" or > "portinstall mysql41-server" all result in a message that the port > doesn't exist. The command that works is "portinstall mysql-server", > which I found with a basic google search, but I don't find that in > the descriptions or Makefiles. Looking just at what is in the ports > tree (or anywhere else on a 4.9 system), where would I properly find > that name? You can better issue the following commands: # cd /usr/ports/the-port-you-want # make all install clean To be honest, I never knew a command like portinstall existed =/. I have always used the above mentioned commands. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 23 21:41:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0D2116A4CE for ; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 21:41:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from quito.magic.fr (quito.magic.fr [62.210.158.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 420E243D41 for ; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 21:41:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ets@rolland-fr.com) Received: from lrp43008 (ppp-52.net-555.magic.fr [62.210.255.52]) by quito.magic.fr (8.11.6/8.11.2) with SMTP id i9NLfjL09295 for ; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 23:41:45 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <000601c4b949$1af261a0$0a00a8c0@lrp43008> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Secr=E9tariat?= To: Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 23:41:49 +0200 Organization: Etablissements ROLLAND MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 12:11:59 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: SCO Unix compatibility X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Secr=E9tariat?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 21:41:49 -0000 Hello ! Is there any compatibility between FreBSD and SCO UNIX ? Thanks Luc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 12:23:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00E7616A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 12:23:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp804.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp804.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.183]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8938043D53 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 12:23:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from donaldj1066@fastmail.fm) Received: from unknown (HELO pres7000.mylan.net) (donaldj@ameritech.net@69.211.94.237 with plain) by smtp804.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Oct 2004 12:23:12 -0000 From: "Donald J. O'Neill" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 07:23:05 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410240723.05304.donaldj1066@fastmail.fm> Subject: Re: Upgrading KDE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 12:23:14 -0000 On Sunday 24 October 2004 06:42 am, Spiral Eyed Girl wrote: > Hello, I am trying to upgrade KDE, using make install in the > ports directory, and I get this error: > > ===> kdelibs-3.3.0_2 conflicts with installed package(s): > kdebase-3.1.4 > > They install files into the same place. > Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1). > > and I try to do a "portupgrade kde" and get this error: > > Stale dependency: kde-3.1.4 --> openldap-client-2.1.23 -- > manually run 'pkgdb -F' to fix, or specify -O to force. > > How do I upgrade KDE without using pkg_delete? Or is that the > only way to do it? > > Thanks > > _________________________________________________________________ I would suggest looking at /usr/ports/UPDATING, there is a procedure given there for updating to kde3.3.0 Don -- Donald J. O'Neill donaldj1066@fastmail.fm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 12:27:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE1F116A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 12:27:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp812.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp812.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B13EC43D39 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 12:27:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from donaldj1066@fastmail.fm) Received: from unknown (HELO pres7000.mylan.net) (donaldj@ameritech.net@69.211.94.237 with plain) by smtp812.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Oct 2004 12:27:23 -0000 From: "Donald J. O'Neill" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 07:27:16 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <417B8791.20705@schmittnet.com> In-Reply-To: <417B8791.20705@schmittnet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410240727.16654.donaldj1066@fastmail.fm> Subject: Re: Portinstall question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 12:27:24 -0000 On Sunday 24 October 2004 05:44 am, Bill Schmitt (SW) wrote: > I think I'm missing something basic, so if someone could point me > to where that is, I would appreciate it. I been installing > software using portinstall, but I think I'm missing something > basic because there seems to be more guesswork involved that I > expected there to be. > > How do you know what name to use for the portinstall to work? For > example, I wanted to install MySQL 41. The folders under > /usr/ports/databases include several variations on my-sql. Among > others are mysql323-server, mysql40-server, mysql41-server, and > mysql50-server. In the Makefile for mysql41 it states PORTNAME?= > mysql. But trying "portinstall mysql" or "portinstall mysql41" or > "portinstall mysql41-server" all result in a message that the > port doesn't exist. The command that works is "portinstall > mysql-server", which I found with a basic google search, but I > don't find that in the descriptions or Makefiles. Looking just at > what is in the ports tree (or anywhere else on a 4.9 system), > where would I properly find that name? > > _______________________________________________ Hi Bill, I was just wondering why you would want to use portinstall to install new software, rather than (using your example port): cd /usr/ports/databases/mysql-server41 make install Is using portinstall magical in some way? If you use the make install method, there isn't any guesswork as to what name to use. Don -- Donald J. O'Neill donaldj1066@fastmail.fm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 12:44:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79B9E16A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 12:44:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp810.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp810.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4EA4B43D3F for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 12:44:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from donaldj1066@fastmail.fm) Received: from unknown (HELO pres7000.mylan.net) (donaldj@ameritech.net@69.211.94.237 with plain) by smtp810.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Oct 2004 12:44:23 -0000 From: "Donald J. O'Neill" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 07:44:16 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <200410240723.05304.donaldj1066@fastmail.fm> In-Reply-To: <200410240723.05304.donaldj1066@fastmail.fm> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410240744.16308.donaldj1066@fastmail.fm> Subject: Re: Upgrading KDE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 12:44:23 -0000 On Sunday 24 October 2004 07:23 am, Donald J. O'Neill wrote: > On Sunday 24 October 2004 06:42 am, Spiral Eyed Girl wrote: > > Hello, I am trying to upgrade KDE, using make install in the > > ports directory, and I get this error: > > > > ===> kdelibs-3.3.0_2 conflicts with installed package(s): > > kdebase-3.1.4 > > > > They install files into the same place. > > Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1). > > > > and I try to do a "portupgrade kde" and get this error: > > > > Stale dependency: kde-3.1.4 --> openldap-client-2.1.23 -- > > manually run 'pkgdb -F' to fix, or specify -O to force. > > > > How do I upgrade KDE without using pkg_delete? Or is that the > > only way to do it? > > > > Thanks > > > > _______________________________________________________________ > >__ > > I would suggest looking at /usr/ports/UPDATING, there is a > procedure given there for updating to kde3.3.0 > > Don Your first step will probably be to upgrade to the latest version: qt do this first arts do this second kdelibs3 do this third Don -- Donald J. O'Neill donaldj1066@fastmail.fm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 13:11:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC62316A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:11:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from av7-1-sn1.fre.skanova.net (av7-1-sn1.fre.skanova.net [81.228.11.113]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CF6A43D41 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:11:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from admin@swedehost.com) Received: by av7-1-sn1.fre.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id A596137F5A; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:11:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp3-2-sn1.fre.skanova.net (smtp3-2-sn1.fre.skanova.net [81.228.11.164]) by av7-1-sn1.fre.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96FDA37E51; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:11:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from odin.swedehost.com (h171n2fls33o804.telia.com [217.209.211.171]) by smtp3-2-sn1.fre.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7660137E4F; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:11:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.10] (thor.swedehost.com [192.168.0.10]) (authenticated bits=0) by odin.swedehost.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i9ODBQL9001009; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:11:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from admin@swedehost.com) Message-ID: <417BA9ED.5060901@swedehost.com> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:11:09 +0200 From: Admin User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (Windows/20040803) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dick Hoogendijk References: <20041024120714.GA20545@pooh.nagual.st> In-Reply-To: <20041024120714.GA20545@pooh.nagual.st> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: ps and command args X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:11:29 -0000 Dick Hoogendijk wrote: >I used to be able to see the command arguments given with the program to >start with when I did a "ps -aux" I miss an option which makes the >program arguments visible but I can't find out which one it is.. > >With the new startup files for pure-ftpd in which the command_args >contain the arguments I wnat to make sure pure-ftpd startup with the >options that are defined! > >Please give me a hint.. > > > You might try ps -auxwww and not to forget " man ps " :-) Regards Hasse. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 13:38:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 026FA16A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:38:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vjofn.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (vjofn.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com [204.107.90.128]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB3A943D4C for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:38:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tuc@ttsg.com) Received: from himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (ool-44c09852.dyn.optonline.net [68.192.152.82]) (authenticated bits=128)i9ODc1n5063357; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 09:38:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (localhost.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com [127.0.0.1])id i9ODc1fl028333; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 09:38:01 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tuc@ttsg.com) Received: (from tuc@localhost)i9ODc0Wh028332; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 09:38:00 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tuc) From: Tuc Message-Id: <200410241338.i9ODc0Wh028332@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> To: cswiger@mac.com (Chuck Swiger) Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 09:38:00 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <417B6BEC.7070106@mac.com> from "Chuck Swiger" at Oct 24, 2004 04:46:36 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: IDE drive - "hard error reading fsbn..." - recoverable? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:38:03 -0000 > > Problem is, unless it fails the Dell Power on IDE test, they won't > > replace it. :-/ Guess I just keep backing it up until it fails totally. > > Get a Dell diagnostic disk for your system, and run the hard drive test. It > ought to see the problems, which you can then report back to Dell in order to > get them to do something. > Sorry, I should have mentioned I used the BIOS based disk check and it passed. Maybe I do need to go to the more extensive one. Thanks, Tuc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 14:07:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5918B16A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:07:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D1BC43D1D for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:07:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-b143.otenet.gr [212.205.244.151]) i9OE7QI5001757; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 17:07:29 +0300 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i9O9qhUF096911; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 12:52:44 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id i9O9qhoZ096910; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 12:52:43 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 12:52:43 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Kris Kennaway , Dave Horsfall Message-ID: <20041024095243.GA96795@gothmog.gr> References: <20041015092119.GA93093@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> <20041024064506.GA67423@xor.obsecurity.org> <20041015125113.G68950@mippet.ci.com.au> <20041015092119.GA93093@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> <20041024064506.GA67423@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041024064506.GA67423@xor.obsecurity.org> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Getting LD_LIBRARY_PATH to work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:07:34 -0000 On 2004-10-24 16:56, Dave Horsfall wrote: > On 2004-10-23 23:45, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > Meanwhile, back in the real world, we like to be able to help our > > users by letting them easily post questions. > > And nothing's stopping them from doing so. In which real world are you? By trimming everything away and replying to just one sentence of the reply Kris gave, there simply isn't enough context to see what his post was about. Please keep as much of the original post as necessary when replying :-) Here's a view of the surrounding context of these replies, that might help anyone who reads this reply to understand what I write below: On 2004-10-24 16:56, Dave Horsfall wrote: > On 2004-10-23 23:45, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 12:46:05PM +1000, Dave Horsfall wrote: > > > So, is this list a spam-magnet i.e any spammer can post to it without > > > fear? If so, not only have you just lost me as a potential contributor, > > > but it's going to get listed as such. There is *no* excuse for running an > > > open mailing list any more. > > > > Meanwhile, back in the real world, we like to be able to help our > > users by letting them easily post questions. > > And nothing's stopping them from doing so. In which real world are you? What Kris was replying to was the last sentence of your original post on Oct 24, 2004 at 12:46: ``There is *no* excuse for running an open mailing list any more.'' You are right. There is no excuse. There is a very good and important *reason* though, that you might have missed in Kris' reply: ``This mailing list is listed in the web site of FreeBSD as the one, central place where users can post for help. Many of the people who are newcomers to FreeBSD (and Unix in general) might not be comfortable with mailing list servers, subscription to lists, or other complicated[1] things.'' The list is open, so that new FreeBSD users[2] can follow the directions to post to this list as easily as possible: ``Post your question to '' That's it. That's all there is to it. There isn't much that can be done to simplify this even further. This is the most important _reason_ why the list is open. Making it as easy as possible for the new FreeBSD users to post, they will have no problem asking questions, receiving replies and making the best out of their FreeBSD systems. - Giorgos ----- Notes ----- [1] They might not be complicated for you or me, but this doesn't mean a lot. The fact that some people find it hard to understand the concept of a ``mailing list'' does not change because you and I understand how these things work. [2] It's exactly this sort of users that will need the most out of a general questions list. Experienced users will often know where to find the information they need without posting to a list. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 14:20:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4508116A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:20:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from idesigns.net (idesigns.net [209.239.38.159]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA78143D2F for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:20:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from software@schmittnet.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (ct-seymour2d-19.wtrbct.adelphia.net [68.71.172.19]) by idesigns.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9OEJiGZ004478; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 10:19:46 -0400 Message-ID: <417BBA0C.8070807@schmittnet.com> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 10:19:56 -0400 From: "Bill Schmitt (SW)" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6+ (Windows/20041018) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en To: "Donald J. O'Neill" References: <417B8791.20705@schmittnet.com> <200410240727.16654.donaldj1066@fastmail.fm> In-Reply-To: <200410240727.16654.donaldj1066@fastmail.fm> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Portinstall question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:20:09 -0000 Donald J. O'Neill wrote: On Sunday 24 October 2004 05:44 am, Bill Schmitt (SW) wrote: I think I'm missing something basic, so if someone could point me to where that is, I would appreciate it. I been installing software using portinstall, but I think I'm missing something basic because there seems to be more guesswork involved that I expected there to be. How do you know what name to use for the portinstall to work? For example, I wanted to install MySQL 41. The folders under /usr/ports/databases include several variations on my-sql. Among others are mysql323-server, mysql40-server, mysql41-server, and mysql50-server. In the Makefile for mysql41 it states PORTNAME?= mysql. But trying "portinstall mysql" or "portinstall mysql41" or "portinstall mysql41-server" all result in a message that the port doesn't exist. The command that works is "portinstall mysql-server", which I found with a basic google search, but I don't find that in the descriptions or Makefiles. Looking just at what is in the ports tree (or anywhere else on a 4.9 system), where would I properly find that name? _______________________________________________ Hi Bill, I was just wondering why you would want to use portinstall to install new software, rather than (using your example port): cd /usr/ports/databases/mysql-server41 make install Is using portinstall magical in some way? If you use the make install method, there isn't any guesswork as to what name to use. Don I've been using portupgrade/portinstall whenever possible because of the built-in dependency checking. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 14:20:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62D2016A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:20:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bmyster.com (loqtis.bmyster.com [66.55.195.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 615FB43D3F for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:20:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mrb@bmyster.com) Received: from www.bmyster.com (localhost.bmyster.com [127.0.0.1]) by bmyster.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i9OEDeSe084061 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 10:13:44 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brent" To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 09:13:35 -0500 Message-Id: <20041024141201.M22599@bmyster.com> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.41 20040926 X-OriginatingIP: 65.175.140.18 (mrb) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: help setting up NIS ??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: mrb@bmyster.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:20:37 -0000 I'm running Freebsd 4.10 , we were thinking of running NIS so that user accounts get propagated to other servers in our infrastructure. can it be done ? any thoughts or help is greatly appreciated thank you -- Brent From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 14:27:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F7CD16A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:27:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11BCF43D48 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:27:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1])i9OERo7q081060 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:27:50 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)i9OERoGV081059; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:27:50 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:27:50 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: "Donald J. O'Neill" Message-ID: <20041024142750.GA80609@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , "Donald J. O'Neill" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <417B8791.20705@schmittnet.com> <200410240727.16654.donaldj1066@fastmail.fm> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200410240727.16654.donaldj1066@fastmail.fm> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.5.6 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:27:50 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040904, clamav-milter version 0.75l on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Portinstall question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:27:58 -0000 --8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 07:27:16AM -0500, Donald J. O'Neill wrote: > On Sunday 24 October 2004 05:44 am, Bill Schmitt (SW) wrote: > > I think I'm missing something basic, so if someone could point me > > to where that is, I would appreciate it. I been installing > > software using portinstall, but I think I'm missing something > > basic because there seems to be more guesswork involved that I > > expected there to be. > > > > How do you know what name to use for the portinstall to work? For > > example, I wanted to install MySQL 41. The folders under > > /usr/ports/databases include several variations on my-sql. Among > > others are mysql323-server, mysql40-server, mysql41-server, and > > mysql50-server. In the Makefile for mysql41 it states PORTNAME?=3D > > mysql. But trying "portinstall mysql" or "portinstall mysql41" or > > "portinstall mysql41-server" all result in a message that the > > port doesn't exist. The command that works is "portinstall > > mysql-server", which I found with a basic google search, but I > > don't find that in the descriptions or Makefiles. Looking just at > > what is in the ports tree (or anywhere else on a 4.9 system), > > where would I properly find that name? > I was just wondering why you would want to use portinstall to=20 > install new software, rather than (using your example port): > cd /usr/ports/databases/mysql-server41 > make install > Is using portinstall magical in some way? If you use the make=20 > install method, there isn't any guesswork as to what name to use. portinstall is just portupgrade by another name. Infact, it's pretty much identical to 'portungrade -f'. As to why anyone would want to use portupgrade? That's a no-brainer. Just try it and you'll see. To answer the original question, portupgrade or portinstall can select a port to operate on in two ways. You can either give it the package name -- with or without the version number -- or you can give it the port origin -- ie. the port directory relative to /usr/ports. Now, usually, the first part of package name is the same as the last part of the port origin, but not always. For instance the www/apache2 port installs apache-2.0.52_1. That similarity of names is what was confusing the OP. He could either have issued the command: # portinstall mysql-server-4.1.6 or # portinstall databases/mysql41-server and it all would have worked. The command he did use: # portinstall mysql-server worked for him, but that was partly a matter of luck, as it happened to default to the 4.1.x branch of MySQL. (Maybe he had WANT_MYSQL_VER=3D41 defined in /etc/make.conf or some such -- the default is to install databases/mysql40-server) To find out what package name a port will install, just: % cd /usr/ports/databases/mysql41-server % make -V PKGNAME=20 portupgrade processes the /usr/ports/INDEX file into a database of port origins and package names, which is why you always need an up-to-date INDEX when using it. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBe7vmiD657aJF7eIRAgrQAKCc0V+OqWtGF5wS2Ji4+3i+Bf8GNQCbBfUH knCp4z0pjN+boablBV/Cpgg= =jx+p -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 14:29:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D08D16A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:29:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBE5943D1D for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:29:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1])i9OETQoW081115 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:29:26 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)i9OETQHF081114; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:29:26 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:29:26 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: Brent Message-ID: <20041024142926.GB80609@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , Brent , questions@freebsd.org References: <20041024141201.M22599@bmyster.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="yNb1oOkm5a9FJOVX" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041024141201.M22599@bmyster.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.5.6 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:29:26 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040904, clamav-milter version 0.75l on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: help setting up NIS ??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:29:54 -0000 --yNb1oOkm5a9FJOVX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 09:13:35AM -0500, Brent wrote: > I'm running Freebsd 4.10 , we were thinking of running NIS so that user= =20 > accounts get propagated to other servers in our infrastructure.=20 >=20 > can it be done ?=20 Yes. Read the ypinit(8) man page. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --yNb1oOkm5a9FJOVX Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBe7xGiD657aJF7eIRAvZ5AJ9vUKB/UPe+BbiPGQpwJS8gXwTIhwCgiGTO bwA7PRT+7QO/KIaLAQoZq9s= =tWzD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --yNb1oOkm5a9FJOVX-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 14:40:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75A6816A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:40:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from exchange.nmnet.dk (mail.nmnet.dk [83.97.97.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78BF143D2D for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:40:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tr@nmnet.dk) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:45:49 +0200 Message-ID: Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.6944.0 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Vinum, and poweroutage... Thread-Index: AcS4QehwNX7a5kngQMWaayTkk/OfYgBlVrog From: "Thomas Rasmussen" To: Subject: Vinum, and poweroutage... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:40:38 -0000 Have a vinum setup... two disk... Vinum.conf =20 drive d1 device /dev/ad2s1e drive d2 device /dev/ad3s1e volume mirror plex org concat sd length 190000m drive d1 plex org concat sd length 190000m drive d2 when I try to run fsck /dev/vinum/mirror it outputs.. BAD SUPER BLOCK: VALUES IN SUPER BLOCK DISAGREE WITH THOSE IN FIRST ALTERNATE CANNOT FIGURE OUT FILE SYSTEM PARTITION So I try to run=20 fsck -b 32 -n /dev/vinum/mirror and get a lot of these erros... any? Should a run fsck -b 32 /dev/vinum/mirror and say yes?=20 Or newfs -y -v /dev/vinum/mirror PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=3D1838571 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=3D1838572 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=3D1838573 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=3D1838574 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=3D1838575 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=3D1838576 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=3D1838577 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=3D1838578 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=3D1838579 CLEAR? no UNKNOWN FILE TYPE I=3D1838580 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=3D1838581 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=3D1838582 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=3D1838583 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=3D1838584 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=3D1838585 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=3D1838586 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=3D1838587 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=3D1838588 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=3D1838589 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=3D1838590 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=3D1838591 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=3D1839040 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=3D1839041 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=3D1839042 Med venlig hilsen/Best regards Thomas Rasmussuen Network manager, NM Net ApS Email: tr@nmnet.dk Tlf./Phone: +45 8677 0606 Fax: +45 8677 0615 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 14:43:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D43FB16A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:43:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freeode.co.uk (freeode.co.uk [213.162.123.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF06943D41 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:43:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from spam-trap@freeode.co.uk) Received: from lexx (lexx.freeode.co.uk [10.253.253.2]) by mail.freeode.co.uk (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9OEhhs0042896; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:43:49 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from spam-trap@freeode.co.uk) From: John Murphy To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:43:43 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: pstal@it.teithe.gr Subject: Re: searching X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: sub01@freeode.co.uk List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:43:56 -0000 P Stalidis wrote: >hello, >I'm trying to find one of the earliest versions of freeBSD... 1.0 would >be fine! I'm trying to get an intel i386sx33 with only 1mb of ram, up >and running again... so any help is welcome >thanks in advance :) There's an ftp search engine at http://www.freewareweb.com/ftpsearch.shtml which shows some hits if you search for freebsd-1* The oldest version with release notes on the FreeBSD web site is 1.1 but it says "the 386sx is not recommended" so I wish you luck. http://www.freebsd.org/releases/1.1/RELNOTES.FreeBSD -- John. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 14:50:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1C2D16A4D1 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:50:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from idesigns.net (idesigns.net [209.239.38.159]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8901743D53 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:50:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from software@schmittnet.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (ct-seymour2d-19.wtrbct.adelphia.net [68.71.172.19]) by idesigns.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9OEoDGZ007956; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 10:50:14 -0400 Message-ID: <417BC131.6040200@schmittnet.com> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 10:50:25 -0400 From: "Bill Schmitt (SW)" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6+ (Windows/20041018) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en To: Matthew Seaman References: <417B8791.20705@schmittnet.com> <200410240727.16654.donaldj1066@fastmail.fm> <20041024142750.GA80609@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20041024142750.GA80609@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: "Donald J. O'Neill" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Portinstall question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:50:20 -0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 07:27:16AM -0500, Donald J. O'Neill wrote: On Sunday 24 October 2004 05:44 am, Bill Schmitt (SW) wrote: I think I'm missing something basic, so if someone could point me to where that is, I would appreciate it. I been installing software using portinstall, but I think I'm missing something basic because there seems to be more guesswork involved that I expected there to be. How do you know what name to use for the portinstall to work? For example, I wanted to install MySQL 41. The folders under /usr/ports/databases include several variations on my-sql. Among others are mysql323-server, mysql40-server, mysql41-server, and mysql50-server. In the Makefile for mysql41 it states PORTNAME?= mysql. But trying "portinstall mysql" or "portinstall mysql41" or "portinstall mysql41-server" all result in a message that the port doesn't exist. The command that works is "portinstall mysql-server", which I found with a basic google search, but I don't find that in the descriptions or Makefiles. Looking just at what is in the ports tree (or anywhere else on a 4.9 system), where would I properly find that name? I was just wondering why you would want to use portinstall to install new software, rather than (using your example port): cd /usr/ports/databases/mysql-server41 make install Is using portinstall magical in some way? If you use the make install method, there isn't any guesswork as to what name to use. portinstall is just portupgrade by another name. Infact, it's pretty much identical to 'portungrade -f'. As to why anyone would want to use portupgrade? That's a no-brainer. Just try it and you'll see. To answer the original question, portupgrade or portinstall can select a port to operate on in two ways. You can either give it the package name -- with or without the version number -- or you can give it the port origin -- ie. the port directory relative to /usr/ports. Now, usually, the first part of package name is the same as the last part of the port origin, but not always. For instance the www/apache2 port installs apache-2.0.52_1. That similarity of names is what was confusing the OP. He could either have issued the command: # portinstall mysql-server-4.1.6 or # portinstall databases/mysql41-server and it all would have worked. The command he did use: # portinstall mysql-server worked for him, but that was partly a matter of luck, as it happened to default to the 4.1.x branch of MySQL. (Maybe he had WANT_MYSQL_VER=41 defined in /etc/make.conf or some such -- the default is to install databases/mysql40-server) To find out what package name a port will install, just: % cd /usr/ports/databases/mysql41-server % make -V PKGNAME portupgrade processes the /usr/ports/INDEX file into a database of port origins and package names, which is why you always need an up-to-date INDEX when using it. Cheers, Matthew Actually, I found the correct entry by searching for "portinstall mysql" through google until I found an example that included some results other than not found. (WANT_MYSQL_VER was not defined). Bill From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 15:10:05 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A027A16A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:10:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from blackwater.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2DFB43D49 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:10:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from blackwater.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.135]) by blackwater.lemis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B14018565B; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 00:39:48 +0930 (CST) Received: by blackwater.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E5CD34AC41; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 20:36:11 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 20:36:11 +0200 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Damian Sobieralski Message-ID: <20041023183611.GC2303@eucla.lemis.com> References: <20041014200557.52243.qmail@web50405.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041014200557.52243.qmail@web50405.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Arla X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:10:05 -0000 On Thursday, 14 October 2004 at 13:05:57 -0700, Damian Sobieralski wrote: > > I hope this is the correct place to post this. I'm a recent convert > to FreeBSD (about 2 years ago). I'll spare the details (potential flame > bait). I'll just say it is so nice to have ONE distribution of my O/S > and leave the inferences to what I was using before as an exercise to > the reader :) Anyways, using the very well maintained ports I have > never had any troubles. However, I am on a fact finding mission. > > I have been digging around the 'Net looking for AFS client > information for FreeBSD. It appears OpenAFS does not run on FreeBSD > and many point to Arla. I visited the project's homepage and I noticed > that it stated that FreeBSD 5.2.1 is a specifically supported (my > version) system. I tried to make the port and noticed it was listed as > "broken" (as well as several errors after I type "make" in > /usr/ports/net/arla). So without wasting any more time on the mailing > list then need be- what is the status of Arla on FreeBSD? Is there a > working port for 5.2.1? Or a more general question- if one has a 5.2.1 > machine (i386) and wants AFS client connectivity- what options are > available to him (if any)? First, sorry if this arrives after other more useful messages. I'm travelling in Europe, and it could be up to a week before I can send this message. I've been looking at ARLA, and it seems that it's broken as a result of some changes in the bio layer of FreeBSD 5 and 6. The breakage is minor, but to fix and test it I need to do a certain amount of work, and that won't happen until mid-November at the earliest (I won't be home until 7 November). You might like to contact me (privately) round then for an updated status. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 15:13:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14A2E16A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:13:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-m15.mx.aol.com (imo-m15.mx.aol.com [64.12.138.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A841743D4C for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:13:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from TM4525@aol.com) Received: from TM4525@aol.com by imo-m15.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id h.ee.4617a19 (4238); Sun, 24 Oct 2004 11:13:24 -0400 (EDT) From: TM4525@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 11:13:24 EDT To: scrappy@hub.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5114 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ifconfig alias: File Exists X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:13:38 -0000 In a message dated 10/19/04 3:51:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, scrappy@hub.org writes: >> # ifconfig fxp0 alias 200.46.204.9 >> ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCAIFADDR): File exists >> >> when I know for a fact that it hasn't been configured? > > you should use a netmask of 255.255.255.255 for ipv4 aliases. > > ifconfig fxp0 alias 200.46.204.9 netmask 255.255.255.255 >Is that new? You are right, that fixed it, but didn't think I had to do >that before :( You get it because the guy who maintains ifconfig didn't have the foresight to realize the "alias" should imply a host mask, and also that the guy who coded the kernel code didn't think that assuming a host mask was reasonable. Welcome to open source. Love it and live with it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 15:14:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3C3F16A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:14:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70AAE43D1F for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:14:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-a108.otenet.gr [212.205.215.108]) i9OFEfPk007307; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 18:14:50 +0300 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i9OFEOPw001625; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 18:14:24 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id i9OFEO72001624; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 18:14:24 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 18:14:24 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Secr?tariat Message-ID: <20041024151424.GA1565@gothmog.gr> References: <000601c4b949$1af261a0$0a00a8c0@lrp43008> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000601c4b949$1af261a0$0a00a8c0@lrp43008> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SCO Unix compatibility X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:15:00 -0000 On 2004-10-23 23:41, Secr?tariat wrote: > Hello ! > Is there any compatibility between FreBSD and SCO UNIX ? Hi, A good answer to this questios depends on what you refer to when you use the word `compatibility'. What is it exactly that you want to do with FreeBSD *and* SCO UNIX? - Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 15:18:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 794BE16A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:18:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dnsmail3.ior.navy.mil (nocc.ior.navy.mil [205.56.210.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B16A43D48 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:18:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from JohnsoBS@vicksburg.navy.mil) Received: from cg69ubd01.vicksburg.navy.mil ([205.95.65.21]) i9OFFxL8030293; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:16:02 GMT Received: by CG69UBD01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 18:21:20 +0300 Message-ID: From: JohnsoBS@vicksburg.navy.mil To: TM4525@aol.com, scrappy@hub.org Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 18:21:19 +0300 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: ifconfig alias: File Exists X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:18:14 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: TM4525@aol.com [mailto:TM4525@aol.com] > Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 5:13 PM > To: scrappy@hub.org > Cc: questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: ifconfig alias: File Exists > > > In a message dated 10/19/04 3:51:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > scrappy@hub.org > writes: > >> # ifconfig fxp0 alias 200.46.204.9 > >> ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCAIFADDR): File exists > >> > >> when I know for a fact that it hasn't been configured? > > > > you should use a netmask of 255.255.255.255 for ipv4 aliases. > > > > ifconfig fxp0 alias 200.46.204.9 netmask 255.255.255.255 > > >Is that new? You are right, that fixed it, but didn't think > I had to do > >that before :( > You get it because the guy who maintains ifconfig didn't have > the foresight > to realize the "alias" should imply a host mask, and also > that the guy who > coded the kernel code didn't think that assuming a host mask was > reasonable. > > Welcome to open source. Love it and live with it. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > To assume makes an ass out of u and me. Ok, that out of the way, the config you assume should be coded into ifconfig and kernel is not 100% going to be used all the time. In fact I have multiple nets and have multiple netmask assigned on the one machine. If you actually READ "man ifconfig" it states that this should be set to what you assume it should be. It helps when people don't attack things they don't fully understand cause for many it might be a person's first view at what you are bashing. Unfortunately also, many people aren't smart enough to get a second opinion or to try beyond there first try or someone person's like yourselfs comments. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 15:18:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3DA816A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:18:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from brightstar.bomgardner.net (brightstar.bomgardner.net [209.240.79.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2322243D1F for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:18:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from listmail@Bomgardner.net) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (morningstar [192.168.0.2]) i9OFIrGj011009 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 10:18:54 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from listmail@Bomgardner.net) Message-ID: <417BC7CF.3040206@Bomgardner.net> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 10:18:39 -0500 From: listmail User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (Windows/20040502) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: sshd STILL not using one time passwords. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:18:54 -0000 Thanks to all who have patiently answered my previous questions. I've got another one. I'm using 5.2.1. My logs show attempts to break into my system via ssh, telnet, and ftp (I use strong passwords, thankfully, and no common user accounts like admin, guest, and so on) and so I'm trying to tighten security. I have run into a problem, however - I've set things up so only two accounts can connect via ssh (telnet disabled outside the local net) and I've started using opie. However, ssh will not recognize and use opie. Local telnet does, as does ftpd, but not sshd. The list archives has a thread that deals with the reverse problem (i.e. sshd prompting for challenge response and not using passwords), but that hasn't been any help here. I've included sshd_config and /etc/pam.d/sshd. I've left out all commented out lines for brevity. From /etc/sshd_config: ----------------------------------------- AuthorizedKeysFile .ssh/authorized_keys (Not sure how this got uncommented) AllowGroups grp1 PasswordAuthentication no ChallengeResponseAuthentication yes Subsystem sftp /usr/libexec/sftp-server ...... All other items commented out ========================================= From /etc/pam.d/sshd: -------------------------------------------------- # auth auth required pam_nologin.so no_warn auth sufficient pam_opie.so no_warn no_fake_prompts auth requisite pam_opieaccess.so no_warn allow_local # account account required pam_login_access.so account required pam_unix.so # session session required pam_permit.so # password #password sufficient pam_krb5.so no_warn try_first_pass #password required pam_unix.so no_warn try_first_pass ======================================= If I read the handbook on SSH and the paper on PAM correctly, this should be working. Anyone have any idea why it might not be? What have I managed to screw up this time? thanx Gene From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 16:04:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0F9A16A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:04:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from astro.systems.pipex.net (astro.systems.pipex.net [62.241.163.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05BDA43D49 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:04:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mark.cullen@dsl.pipex.com) Received: from [10.0.0.247] (81-178-73-121.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.73.121]) by astro.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 497E8E0000E0 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 17:04:03 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <417BD274.4070200@dsl.pipex.com> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 17:04:04 +0100 From: Mark Cullen User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: How is 4-STABLE doing these days? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:04:08 -0000 Hi there, I was just wondering what the state of 4-STABLE is these days? I have just installed 4.10-R on a machine and was going to update it to STABLE. What sort of changes have there been in STABLE since 4.10-R was released? UPDATING just stops at "4.10 released". -- Internet Explorer? Try FireFox at http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ Outlook Express? Try ThunderBird at http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 16:27:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2A0D16A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:27:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp804.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp804.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.183]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6E3AC43D6D for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:27:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from donaldj1066@fastmail.fm) Received: from unknown (HELO pres7000.mylan.net) (donaldj@ameritech.net@69.211.94.237 with plain) by smtp804.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Oct 2004 16:27:10 -0000 From: "Donald J. O'Neill" To: Matthew Seaman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 11:27:02 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <417B8791.20705@schmittnet.com> <200410240727.16654.donaldj1066@fastmail.fm> <20041024142750.GA80609@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20041024142750.GA80609@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410241127.02697.donaldj1066@fastmail.fm> Subject: Re: Portinstall question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:27:12 -0000 On Sunday 24 October 2004 09:27 am, Matthew Seaman wrote: > > I was just wondering why you would want to use portinstall to > > install new software, rather than (using your example port): > > cd /usr/ports/databases/mysql-server41 > > make install > > Is using portinstall magical in some way? If you use the make > > install method, there isn't any guesswork as to what name to > > use. > > portinstall is just portupgrade by another name. Infact, it's > pretty much identical to 'portungrade -f'. As to why anyone > would want to use portupgrade? That's a no-brainer. Just try it > and you'll see. Actually, I think you mean 'portupgrade -N', don't you? 'portupgrade -f' would be used if you want to force the upgrade of an already installed port (eg. you want to change some option). Remember, to someone unfamiliar with a process, how to use it it is not a no brainer, that's why Bill posted his question. The reasons to use a process, for someone familiar with it, probably is a no brainer. To someone who knows several ways to do something, it becomes more complicated. > > To answer the original question, portupgrade or portinstall can > select a port to operate on in two ways. You can either give it > the package name -- with or without the version number -- or you > can give it the port origin -- ie. the port directory relative to > /usr/ports. Now, usually, the first part of package name is the > same as the last part of the port origin, but not always. For > instance the www/apache2 port installs apache-2.0.52_1. That > similarity of names is what was confusing the OP. He could > either have issued the command: > > # portinstall mysql-server-4.1.6 > > or > > # portinstall databases/mysql41-server > > and it all would have worked. The command he did use: > > # portinstall mysql-server > > worked for him, but that was partly a matter of luck, as it > happened to default to the 4.1.x branch of MySQL. (Maybe he had > WANT_MYSQL_VER=41 defined in /etc/make.conf or some such -- the > default is to install databases/mysql40-server) > > To find out what package name a port will install, just: > > % cd /usr/ports/databases/mysql41-server > % make -V PKGNAME You're already there now, why not just use 'make install'? You can even do 'make package' if you want to save a built package for later (you made an "oh, oh" and have to reinstall) emergency reinstalling a port. > > portupgrade processes the /usr/ports/INDEX file into a database > of port origins and package names, which is why you always need > an up-to-date INDEX when using it. So very true, you can read the many posts from people who have not done that. But, unless you do a 'portupgrade -a', you're going to have to run portversion (I use -vL=) in order to find the ports that need upgrading. I won't mention pkgdb -F (yes, I just did) sometimes needs to be run, I'm sure you circumstances for doing so. > > Cheers, > > Matthew All that being said, I just don't use portinstall as I feel I don't have the control I have with 'make install'. Would I ever use portinstall? Probably not, I can do the same thing with portupgrade -n, if I ever felt inclined to do so. The reason for asking the OP the question about why he would want to use it, was to try to get him to see that there are other ways to do things and think about them. It evidently didn't work as I received from him, an exact copy of your email to me. Good thinking Don. Some people don't realize that it's good to learn new ideas, and they can be learned by thinking about a few hints. By the way, I did relearn something from you email. Thank you. Now I have a question for you, rather, I would like to know your opinion. I have been using '*default tag=RELENG_5' in my supfile. At some point I will be changing that tag to 'default tag=RELENG_5_3' to avoid getting something like 5.4 beta1 when it comes down the pike. How soon after the release of 5.3 do you think that should be done? Thank you, Don -- Donald J. O'Neill donaldj1066@fastmail.fm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 16:55:04 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D221916A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:55:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-02-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37F1D43D48 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:55:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jason@ec.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.1.103] (cpe-065-184-172-100.ec.rr.com [65.184.172.100])i9OGsw4R015264; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 12:55:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <417BDF10.8010101@ec.rr.com> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 12:57:52 -0400 From: jason User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (X11/20040929) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Stephen P. Cravey" References: <20041023191957.139ba5ba.cravey@gotbrains.org> In-Reply-To: <20041023191957.139ba5ba.cravey@gotbrains.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linksys WPC11 v.4 problems in 5.2, 5.2.1 and 5.3-RC1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:55:04 -0000 Stephen P. Cravey wrote: >I've just purchased a new 802.11b pcmcia card for a laptop and I'm >getting errors when I insert it. Is this card not supported yet, other >than debug sysctls, is there anythgin else I should check? Yes, i did >add pccard_enable to rc.conf. > >I'm running 5.3-RC1 at the moment, but I have the same problem with >5.2-R and 5.2.1-R. Since I have no network interface, I'm stuck with >what I can install from CD. > >I've included (what I think is) the pertinent debugging info: > > > >Dmesg: >cbb0: at device 7.0 on pci0 >cardbus0: on cbb0 >pccard0: <16-bit PCCard Bus> on cbb0 > >Insert: >cardbus0: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) >cbb0: CardBus card activation failed > >Debug Insert: >Status is 0x300000820 >cbb0: card inserted: event=0x00000000, state=30000820 >cbb0: cbb_power: 3V >TUPLE: LINKTARGET [3]: 43 49 53 >Manufacturer ID: 00004c02 >Functions: Network Adaptor, Multi-Functioned >Function Extension: 0102 >Function Extension: 0280969800 >Function Extension: 0200e1f505 >Function Extension: 040600e04c390010 >TUPLE: Unknown(0x1c) [2]: 02 ff >cardbus0: Opening BAR: type=IO, bar=10, len=0100 >cardbus0: Opening BAR: type=MEM, bar=14, len=200 >CIS reading done >cardbus0: Non-prefetchable memory at 88000000-880001ff >cardbus0: IO port at 1000-10ff >cardbus0: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) >cbb0: cbb_power: 0V >cbb0: CardBus card activation failed > >Debug Remove: >Status is 0x30000026 >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > check out man ndiscvt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 17:23:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2888216A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 17:23:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1E4343D53 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 17:23:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1])i9OHNXQm082774 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 24 Oct 2004 18:23:33 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)i9OHNXWt082773; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 18:23:33 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 18:23:33 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: Mark Cullen Message-ID: <20041024172333.GA82610@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , Mark Cullen , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <417BD274.4070200@dsl.pipex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <417BD274.4070200@dsl.pipex.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.5.6 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sun, 24 Oct 2004 18:23:33 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040904, clamav-milter version 0.75l on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How is 4-STABLE doing these days? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 17:23:40 -0000 --uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 05:04:04PM +0100, Mark Cullen wrote: > I was just wondering what the state of 4-STABLE is these days? I have=20 > just installed 4.10-R on a machine and was going to update it to STABLE. >=20 > What sort of changes have there been in STABLE since 4.10-R was=20 > released? UPDATING just stops at "4.10 released". It's doing just fine. There hasn't been a huge amount of activity on RELENG_4 recently, but there have been commits going in most days. Not suprising, considering the amount of effort focused on getting 5.3-RELEASE out of the door. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBe+UViD657aJF7eIRAohxAJsGFv7t64CSp2PKWEOcWWCJ1NWAhQCfTSnl ozRvAGo5AEKoOR1G9TzJ0eU= =b/EB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 17:37:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D803716A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 17:37:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from asmtp-a063f31.pas.sa.earthlink.net (asmtp-a063f31.pas.sa.earthlink.net [207.217.120.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B515843D54 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 17:37:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jadams01@sprynet.com) Received: from adsl-34-9-168.asm.bellsouth.net ([67.34.9.168] helo=[10.0.1.4]) by asmtp-a063f31.pas.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CLmJG-0003AK-J9 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 10:37:38 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: FreeBSD User Questions List From: John Adams Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:39:39 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-ELNK-Trace: 3f8a92a657ebafbd5741bb2dafe82705c01dc372911c85ad4dee5fa990ad6139a98139f79436a2a5350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 67.34.9.168 Subject: First cvsup in sometime, and now I'm hosed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 17:37:39 -0000 Hi, folks, I ran a cvsup against my supfile, then a portupgrade -a, and now I'm hosed. For starts, ruby is complaining about an insecure version of OpenSSL, and will not install, leaving me without, well, portupgrade. What have I done to myself, and how do I recover? Is this, by Hobson's choice, a good time to upgrade from 4.9? What should I provide to help tell what's going on with my box? All the best, John A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 17:37:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26CCF16A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 17:37:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91.asp.att.net [204.127.203.211]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC6DC43D58 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 17:37:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.hauber@mchsi.com) Received: from [10.51.10.3] (12-219-204-133.client.mchsi.com[12.219.204.133]) by sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91) with ESMTP id <20041024173738m9100cdsole>; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 17:37:38 +0000 From: Mike Hauber To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:39:10 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <417BD274.4070200@dsl.pipex.com> In-Reply-To: <417BD274.4070200@dsl.pipex.com> X-Copyright: 2004, Michael C. Hauber. All rights reserved. X-Notice: Duplication, modification, and/or redistribution are prohibited without proper consent from the author. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410241339.11016.m.hauber@mchsi.com> Subject: Re: How is 4-STABLE doing these days? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: m.hauber@mchsi.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 17:37:39 -0000 On Sunday 24 October 2004 12:04 pm, Mark Cullen proclaimed: > Hi there, > > I was just wondering what the state of 4-STABLE is these > days? I have just installed 4.10-R on a machine and was > going to update it to STABLE. > > What sort of changes have there been in STABLE since > 4.10-R was released? UPDATING just stops at "4.10 > released". That's interesting, now that you mention it. I've kept up to date with the changes by subscribing to the freebsd-stable list. As far as I know (and hopefully I'm wrong on this...), it's is the only way to read up on the actual changes as they take place. The only problem is that you'll have to put on your waders to find anything specific. See the following link for more info on the mailing list (link may have wrapped): http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable If you don't want to subscribe to the list, the archives are available from the link above as well. I've cvsup'd just a few days ago and I'm running the latest 4.10-STABLE on two machines (one is setup as a desktop and the other provides various services to the LAN). If it's any help, it runs like a dream. :) HTH, Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 17:43:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE43516A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 17:43:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from outbox.allstream.net (outbox.allstream.net [207.245.244.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A90443D39 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 17:43:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from epilogue@allstream.net) Received: from localhost (mon-pq54-166.dial.allstream.net [216.123.143.38]) by outbox.allstream.net (Allstream MTA) with SMTP id 7BF035E25; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:43:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:43:40 -0400 From: epilogue To: dick hoogendijk Message-Id: <20041024134340.5c20495a@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20041023100354.GA6730@nagual.st> References: <20041023100354.GA6730@nagual.st> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.10) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: missive@hotmail.com cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: OOo-1.1.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 17:43:54 -0000 On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 12:03:54 +0200 dick hoogendijk wrote: > I downloaded the OOo-1.1.3_nl package yesterday and wanted to > install it like I did the previous version. > I was very surprised to see that it did *not* wanted to install with a > pkg_add onto my freebsd-4.10p3 system. It was made dependend on de > X.Org libraries and such is not what you'de expect for a 4.10 system, > right? OK if it were 5.3; X.Org is default on that, I'm told, but hey, > not everyone has made the changes to xorg.. hello lee, included you bc step 3 (below) may help to make OO run more smoothly those few odd times that you do use it. hello dick, [snip from previous reply to similar question] until such time as other packages are made available, you can try what i have done in the past - installing OO despite having the wrong X server. this method has been successful for me numerous times: 1) download the pkg for your system 2) pkg_add -f openoffice-[ver] 3) pkgdb -Fu # almost all the xorg/xfree pieces have very similar names, so selecting the correct dependency is straightforward. only with XFree86-fontScalable might you have to make a choice between Type1 or TrueType. both seem to work, but with slightly different results (i'm not sure which is best and don't much care - but if you read-up on it, you should be able to figure it out). 4) start openoffice and enjoy. > Which leads me to another question: would this behaviour of deps on > X.Org become 'normal' in the future? Is it really worthwhile to make > the switch to X.Org in favor of XFree86-4.4? The latter runs smoothly > on my fbsd-4.10 Will X.Org be better??? I checked the net for > information but both parties don't mention eachothers pro's/contra's while xorg is now default on 5.3, what they will do with 4.11 is unclear (at least to me). either system (xorg/xfree) will work and both should be available via ports for the forseeable future. in short, it is a matter of preference (or features) -- and a decision which is entirely up to you. =] hth, epi [/snip] > -- > dick -- http://www.nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE > ++ Running FreeBSD 4.10 ++ Debian GNU/Linux (Woody) > + Nai tiruvantel ar vayuvantel i Valar tielyanna nu vilya > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 17:49:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D3BD16A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 17:49:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D9B143D31 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 17:49:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from 209-6-197-67.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com ([209.6.197.67] helo=jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42 #5) id 1CLmUO-0004VX-UZ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:49:09 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16763.60150.798425.172330@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:48:38 -0400 To: FreeBSD User Questions List In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta16) "celeriac" XEmacs Lucid Subject: First cvsup in sometime, and now I'm hosed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 17:49:10 -0000 John Adams writes: > I ran a cvsup against my supfile, then a portupgrade -a In my opinion, that was your mistake. "portupgrade" is a great product - it sure saves me a ton of work - but it's nowhere near bullet-proof; using it in fire-and-forget mode (and expecially if you don't keep a log) is pinning a "Hurt me" sign on your back. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 18:07:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 714F916A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 18:07:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92.asp.att.net [204.127.203.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2926843D2F for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 18:07:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.hauber@mchsi.com) Received: from [10.51.10.3] (12-219-204-133.client.mchsi.com[12.219.204.133]) by sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92) with ESMTP id <20041024180706m9200k1am3e>; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 18:07:06 +0000 From: Mike Hauber To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:08:39 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: In-Reply-To: X-Copyright: 2004, Michael C. Hauber. All rights reserved. X-Notice: Duplication, modification, and/or redistribution are prohibited without proper consent from the author. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410241408.39868.m.hauber@mchsi.com> Subject: Re: First cvsup in sometime, and now I'm hosed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: m.hauber@mchsi.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 18:07:07 -0000 On Sunday 24 October 2004 01:39 pm, John Adams proclaimed: > Hi, folks, > > I ran a cvsup against my supfile, then a portupgrade -a, > and now I'm hosed. For starts, ruby is complaining about > an insecure version of OpenSSL, and will not install, > leaving me without, well, portupgrade. > > What have I done to myself, and how do I recover? Is > this, by Hobson's choice, a good time to upgrade from > 4.9? What should I provide to help tell what's going on > with my box? > > All the best, > > John A > This could be one of two things... 1. In the past, you've installed a port that needed a newer/more-secure version of OpenSSL and installed the port version (or you've installed the port version of OpenSSL intentionally). Either case you're running the port version. 2. You're still using an old, insecure system-version of OpenSSL. If the first is true (ie, you're using the port version of OpenSSL), try portupgrade -aRr. You _may_ get away with that, but I wouldn't recommend it. If the second is true (more likely scenario), then you _have_ to update your src and rebuild your system in order to move on with your port upgrades. My advice would be to update your source. My last clean install was from a 4.9-REL CD and I keep the updates coming (now run 4.10-STABLE). Every update went without any glitches (of course as disclaimers go, everyone has different situations). HTH Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 18:10:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75B1016A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 18:10:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [198.92.228.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34A5243D1D for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 18:10:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C902633D; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:10:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 35000-01; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:10:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from racerx.makeworld.com (racerx.makeworld.com [198.92.228.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 042886314; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:10:26 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:10:50 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410241310.50146.racerx@makeworld.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.1.2 at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: John Adams Subject: Re: First cvsup in sometime, and now I'm hosed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: racerx@makeworld.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 18:10:30 -0000 On Sunday 24 October 2004 12:39 pm, John Adams wrote: > Hi, folks, > > I ran a cvsup against my supfile, then a portupgrade -a, and now I'm > hosed. For starts, ruby is complaining about an insecure version of > OpenSSL, and will not install, leaving me without, well, portupgrade. > > What have I done to myself, and how do I recover? Is this, by Hobson's > choice, a good time to upgrade from 4.9? What should I provide to help > tell what's going on with my box? > > All the best, > > John A You MUST read /usr/ports/UPDATING after cvsup'ing the ports tree. AND, /usr/src/UPDATING after a cvsup'ing of your source tree. Those 2 files hold the keys to your success. -- Best regards, Chris Bad law is more likely to be supplemented than repealed. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 18:28:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BCE116A4F3 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 18:28:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from astro.systems.pipex.net (astro.systems.pipex.net [62.241.163.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BD1143D54 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 18:28:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mark.cullen@dsl.pipex.com) Received: from [10.0.0.247] (81-178-73-121.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.73.121]) by astro.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51407E000193; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 19:28:08 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <417BF43A.8090807@dsl.pipex.com> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 19:28:10 +0100 From: Mark Cullen User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: m.hauber@mchsi.com References: <417BD274.4070200@dsl.pipex.com> <200410241339.11016.m.hauber@mchsi.com> In-Reply-To: <200410241339.11016.m.hauber@mchsi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How is 4-STABLE doing these days? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 18:28:15 -0000 Mike Hauber wrote: > On Sunday 24 October 2004 12:04 pm, Mark Cullen proclaimed: > >>Hi there, >> >>I was just wondering what the state of 4-STABLE is these >>days? I have just installed 4.10-R on a machine and was >>going to update it to STABLE. >> >>What sort of changes have there been in STABLE since >>4.10-R was released? UPDATING just stops at "4.10 >>released". > > First off thanks to both the people who replied so far! > That's interesting, now that you mention it. I've kept up > to date with the changes by subscribing to the > freebsd-stable list. As far as I know (and hopefully I'm > wrong on this...), it's is the only way to read up on the > actual changes as they take place. Whoops, sorry. Forgot about the other lists :) > > The only problem is that you'll have to put on your waders > to find anything specific. See the following link for more > info on the mailing list (link may have wrapped): > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable I'll look there now :) > > If you don't want to subscribe to the list, the archives are > available from the link above as well. > > I've cvsup'd just a few days ago and I'm running the latest > 4.10-STABLE on two machines (one is setup as a desktop and > the other provides various services to the LAN). If it's > any help, it runs like a dream. :) I'm switching back from 5.x due to instability. I should probably go RELEASE and install the patches, but I can't help thinking STABLE would be a better choice :) > > HTH, It does, thank you very much! > > Mike > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Internet Explorer? Try FireFox at http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ Outlook Express? Try ThunderBird at http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 18:30:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B0EE16A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 18:30:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from FoxSurfer.Com (dns1.foxsurfer.com [69.90.8.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C1A043D48 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 18:30:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from daemon@foxchat.net) Received: from [24.172.9.74] (zapper@rrcs-24-172-9-74.midsouth.biz.rr.com [24.172.9.74]) by FoxSurfer.Com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i9OIUlLt002726 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:30:49 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from daemon@foxchat.net) From: NetAdmin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-uA2QELUdtUFZm7conCqc" Message-Id: <1098642651.1216.12.camel@foxdaemon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:30:51 -0400 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: make.conf question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 18:30:53 -0000 --=-uA2QELUdtUFZm7conCqc Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a P4 2.4G Intel proc on an Asus P4S533 motherboard running FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE-p17. /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh is showing "Release" now and not "RC1" so I thought I'd give it a shot. I'm trying to figure out what are the best/appropriate flags to use in /etc/make.conf I "had" the following; CPUTYPE=3Dp4 CFLAGS=3D -O -pipe CXXFLAGS+=3D -fmemoize-lookups -fsave-memoized but after running "make buildworld" it crashed on the (-fmemoize-lookups -fsave-memoized) flags so I commented them and I'm rerunning make buildworld (stupid me, I didn't copy the error when it failed). So far there have been no errors. How does one know what flags to use in /etc/make.conf? I thought I "had" the right ones. Regards, Mark --=20 NetAdmin for the FoxChat.Net IRC Network. The FoxSurfer Group --=-uA2QELUdtUFZm7conCqc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBe/TbNirmlL8R/7sRArvOAKDAlm4SPsYwvwVnMz+M8pls9GhgDQCfcF5r Al1YJSk+KNmZApd9AbwqrA0= =z0tT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-uA2QELUdtUFZm7conCqc-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 18:40:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6523416A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 18:40:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay13-f2.bay13.hotmail.com [64.4.31.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52F9943D41 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 18:40:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from illwrk4u@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 11:40:01 -0700 Received: from 209.240.79.128 by by13fd.bay13.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 18:39:06 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.240.79.128] X-Originating-Email: [illwrk4u@hotmail.com] X-Sender: illwrk4u@hotmail.com From: "Aaron M." To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:39:06 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Oct 2004 18:40:01.0593 (UTC) FILETIME=[DEE71290:01C4B9F8] Subject: pf and RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 18:40:02 -0000 I saw a while back that the majority of people feel that for rock solid stability and production environments, the way to go is with 4.10-Release (I'm still not sure if stable is considered production quality as most things i find say it is still a WIP) I really am interested in the PF port that came over from openbsd. I think this piece of software really offeres a great set of tools especially Carp and pfsync. I notice (at least this is how it appears to me) that it isn't available for the 4.X versions of FreeBSD. My question is this, if i want to use PF in a production environment, should i go with the upcoming (tomorrow?) release of FreeBSD 5.3 or just use OpenBSD, either 3.5 or 3.6 for the firewall? I know this is one of those theoretical/holy war "what's your favorite" type questions, but not intending it to be and hoping the answers aren't geared as such. i just like pf...and also FBSD, with this in mind..i want a machine that is secure and stable as can be, it is after all the access to the internet as well as the defender of all that is good for the company. Thanks in advance, Aaron _________________________________________________________________ Check out Election 2004 for up-to-date election news, plus voter tools and more! http://special.msn.com/msn/election2004.armx From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 18:51:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D19D416A4CF for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 18:51:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fep2.cogeco.net (smtp.cogeco.net [216.221.81.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9038643D2D for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 18:51:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bbobowski@cogeco.ca) Received: from [24.150.215.98] (d150-215-98.home.cgocable.net [24.150.215.98]) by fep2.cogeco.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B6D6535D; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:51:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <417BF9A6.90409@cogeco.ca> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:51:18 -0400 From: Brian Bobowski User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040626 Thunderbird/0.7.1 Mnenhy/0.6.0.104 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Adams References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD User Questions List Subject: Re: First cvsup in sometime, and now I'm hosed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 18:51:14 -0000 John Adams wrote: > Hi, folks, > > I ran a cvsup against my supfile, then a portupgrade -a, and now > I'm hosed. For starts, ruby is complaining about an insecure version > of OpenSSL, and will not install, leaving me without, well, portupgrade. > > What have I done to myself, and how do I recover? Is this, by > Hobson's choice, a good time to upgrade from 4.9? What should I > provide to help tell what's going on with my box? > > All the best, > > John A Other people have mentioned what needs to be done in future(reading /usr/*/UPDATING and portupgrade syntax). For now, you're probably going to need to get your hands dirty: go to OpenSSL in the ports tree, do a "make install" there, try again with Ruby... Basically, try to make the new version of portupgrade, and whenever it complains about a different port, go and fix it; you may need to do more than a few "make deinstall && make reinstall" to deal with version changes. Also, you could try pkg_add -r [portname] for some of these to cut down compile time at least until you can get portupgrade back. -BB From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 18:54:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8298316A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 18:54:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B75F343D58 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 18:54:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ahze@ahze.net) Received: from [192.168.1.5] ([68.209.163.3]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.netESMTP <20041024185430.LSOL8988.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[192.168.1.5]>; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:54:30 -0400 In-Reply-To: <1098642651.1216.12.camel@foxdaemon.com> References: <1098642651.1216.12.camel@foxdaemon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <22720E94-25EE-11D9-BB05-000A958C81C6@ahze.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Michael Johnson Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:54:29 -0400 To: NetAdmin X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make.conf question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 18:54:31 -0000 make.conf(5) has some info for you Michael On Oct 24, 2004, at 2:30 PM, NetAdmin wrote: > I have a P4 2.4G Intel proc on an Asus P4S533 motherboard running > FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE-p17. /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh is showing > "Release" now and not "RC1" so I thought I'd give it a shot. I'm trying > to figure out what are the best/appropriate flags to use in > /etc/make.conf I "had" the following; > > CPUTYPE=p4 > CFLAGS= -O -pipe > CXXFLAGS+= -fmemoize-lookups -fsave-memoized > > but after running "make buildworld" it crashed on the > (-fmemoize-lookups > -fsave-memoized) flags so I commented them and I'm rerunning make > buildworld (stupid me, I didn't copy the error when it failed). So far > there have been no errors. > > How does one know what flags to use in /etc/make.conf? I thought I > "had" the right ones. > > Regards, > > Mark > > -- > NetAdmin for the FoxChat.Net IRC Network. > The FoxSurfer Group From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 19:17:05 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2452616A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 19:17:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (mta01-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 549FF43D1F for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 19:17:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ben@spooty.net) Received: from m61-mp1.cvx3-b.pop.dial.ntli.net ([80.1.84.61]) by mta01-svc.ntlworld.comESMTP <20041024191612.QRLQ13844.mta01-svc.ntlworld.com@m61-mp1.cvx3-b.pop.dial.ntli.net> for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 20:16:12 +0100 From: Ben Paley To: FreeBSD Questions Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 20:18:27 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410242018.27626.ben@spooty.net> Subject: usb printer won't behave X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 19:17:05 -0000 Hello, I've just got a new epson stylus photo r300 - lovely, works like a dream... in windows. But not in FreeBSD su-2.05b# lptest 20 10 > /dev/ulpt0 makes the print heads move a little, then stop - sounds like it's getting ready to print, then changes its mind. If there's a sheet ready for printing it's ejected at that point. The same thing happens if I do su-2.05b# lptest 20 10 > ~/test su-2.05b# cat ~/test > /dev/ulpt0 I installed the port print/pips-spr300_310, which is the proper driver for this printer - on install it created /etc/printcap: # written for pips-spr300_310 spr300_310|EPSON SPR300_310:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/spr300_310:\ :mx#0:\ :sh:\ :lp=/var/ekpd/ekplp0:\ :if=/usr/local/libexec/pips/SPR300_310/filter-spr300_310:\ :lf=/var/log/lpd-errs: # pips-spr300_310 end as well as the corresponding spool directory and other files mentioned. It also prompts to add some lines to /etc/libmap.conf: # Photo Image Print System (for EPSON bubble jet printer) [/usr/local/lib/pips/libspr300_310.so] libc.so.6 pluginwrapper/pips.so libdl.so.2 pluginwrapper/pips.so so I did that. Now, su-2.05b# lpr -Pspr300_310 ~/test su-2.05b# lptest 20 10 | lpr -Pspr300_310 su-2.05b# lpq -Pspr300_310 Rank Owner Job Files Total Size 1st root 10 /root/test 210 bytes 2nd root 11 (standard input) 210 bytes ...and they'll stay there indefinitely without a peep from the printer, not even the throat-clearing it does redirecting directly to the device node... The detection of the printer is pretty hit and miss - it only seems to work if the printer is off when bsd boots up, AND if I switch it on after I switch on my digital camera! (Odd, huh?) But when it does work, this is what I get: umass0: EPSON USB2.0 MFP, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 2 ulpt0: EPSON USB2.0 MFP, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 2, iclass 8/6 ulpt0: using bi-directional mode da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 1.000MB/s transfers da0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): READ CAPACITY. CDB: 25 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): NOT READY asc:3a,0 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Medium not present (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Unretryable error Opened disk da0 -> 6 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): READ CAPACITY. CDB: 25 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): NOT READY asc:3a,0 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Medium not present (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Unretryable error Opened disk da0 -> 6 ...and then it makes the appropriate nodes (there's a /dev/unlpt0 as well, but it does even less than the one I'm using). On the vague off-chance it's relevant, here's the camera going on and off again: ugen0: Eastman Kodak Company KODAK EasyShare DX4530 Zoom Digital Camera, rev 2.0 0/1.00, addr 3 ugen0: at uhub0 port 2 (addr 3) disconnected ugen0: detached I don't understand why that would make any difference, they use different usb drivers... so, I dunno, is this a usb problem, or what? Oh yeah: su-2.05b# uname -a FreeBSD potato.hogsedge.net 5.3-BETA5 FreeBSD 5.3-BETA5 #1: Tue Oct 19 08:53:58 BST 2004 root@potato.hogsedge.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/POTATO i386 Thanks very much for your help, Ben From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 19:21:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63D1516A4CF for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 19:21:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nagual.st (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [217.122.132.217]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBB0243D1F for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 19:21:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.st) Received: from pooh.nagual.st (pooh.nagual.st [::ffff:192.168.11.22]) by nagual.st with esmtp; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 21:21:14 +0200 Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 21:20:47 +0200 From: dick hoogendijk To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20041024212047.120b30b5.dick@nagual.st> In-Reply-To: <20041024134340.5c20495a@localhost> References: <20041023100354.GA6730@nagual.st> <20041024134340.5c20495a@localhost> Organization: nagual SiTe X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.12 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.10) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: OOo-1.1.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 19:21:16 -0000 On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:43:40 -0400 epilogue wrote: > 2) pkg_add -f openoffice-[ver] > > 3) pkgdb -Fu # almost all the xorg/xfree pieces have very similar > names, so selecting the correct dependency is straightforward. only > with XFree86-fontScalable might you have to make a choice between > Type1 or TrueType. both seem to work, but with slightly different > results (i'm not sure which is best and don't much care - but if you > read-up on it, you should be able to figure it out). The FreeBSD UPDATE file mentiones xorg-fonts-truetype related to XFree86-fontsScalable while XFree86-fontDefaultBitmaps relates to xorg-fonts-type1. So I think that answers your doubts. > > I checked the net for information but both parties don't mention > > eachothers pro's/contra's > > while xorg is now default on 5.3, what they will do with 4.11 is > unclear (at least to me). either system (xorg/xfree) will work and > both should be available via ports for the forseeable future. in > short, it is a matter of preference (or features) -- and a decision > which is entirely up to you. =] I *know* I'm the one to decide. That's why I want to know the ins/outs, pro/contra for each of the systems. I want to read more about it, but don't know were to look. Thanks for the pkdgb -Fu tip -- dick -- http://www.nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 4.10 ++ Debian GNU/Linux (Woody) + Nai tiruvantel ar vayuvantel i Valar tielyanna nu vilja From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 19:28:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E18716A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 19:28:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDC1243D45 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 19:27:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C7356533B9; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 12:28:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 12:28:34 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Mike Hauber Message-ID: <20041024192833.GA69562@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <417BD274.4070200@dsl.pipex.com> <200410241339.11016.m.hauber@mchsi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200410241339.11016.m.hauber@mchsi.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How is 4-STABLE doing these days? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 19:28:00 -0000 --tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 01:39:10PM -0400, Mike Hauber wrote: > That's interesting, now that you mention it. I've kept up=20 > to date with the changes by subscribing to the=20 > freebsd-stable list. As far as I know (and hopefully I'm=20 > wrong on this...), it's is the only way to read up on the=20 > actual changes as they take place. =20 Most changes are not sent to the freebsd-stable list, only major ones (of which, being a long-lived -stable branch, there are few). If you want to watch everything, sign up for the cvs mailing list(s). Kris --tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBfAJfWry0BWjoQKURAvlaAKCju1hTkoOroiulk+Ut0F9FEmQpcQCdHbs4 zgbcdXEqzrhNrK9nkiwT20U= =KGjt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 19:57:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E5F716A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 19:57:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from idesigns.net (idesigns.net [209.239.38.159]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06D3743D45 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 19:57:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from software@schmittnet.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (ct-seymour2d-19.wtrbct.adelphia.net [68.71.172.19]) by idesigns.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9OJviGZ023614; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:57:46 -0400 Message-ID: <417C0944.30301@schmittnet.com> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:57:56 -0400 From: "Bill Schmitt (SW)" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6+ (Windows/20041018) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en To: "Donald J. O'Neill" References: <417B8791.20705@schmittnet.com> <200410240727.16654.donaldj1066@fastmail.fm> <20041024142750.GA80609@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> <200410241127.02697.donaldj1066@fastmail.fm> In-Reply-To: <200410241127.02697.donaldj1066@fastmail.fm> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Portinstall question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 19:57:48 -0000 Donald J. O'Neill wrote: On Sunday 24 October 2004 09:27 am, Matthew Seaman wrote: I was just wondering why you would want to use portinstall to install new software, rather than (using your example port): cd /usr/ports/databases/mysql-server41 make install Is using portinstall magical in some way? If you use the make install method, there isn't any guesswork as to what name to use. portinstall is just portupgrade by another name. Infact, it's pretty much identical to 'portungrade -f'. As to why anyone would want to use portupgrade? That's a no-brainer. Just try it and you'll see. Actually, I think you mean 'portupgrade -N', don't you? 'portupgrade -f' would be used if you want to force the upgrade of an already installed port (eg. you want to change some option). Remember, to someone unfamiliar with a process, how to use it it is not a no brainer, that's why Bill posted his question. The reasons to use a process, for someone familiar with it, probably is a no brainer. To someone who knows several ways to do something, it becomes more complicated. To answer the original question, portupgrade or portinstall can select a port to operate on in two ways. You can either give it the package name -- with or without the version number -- or you can give it the port origin -- ie. the port directory relative to /usr/ports. Now, usually, the first part of package name is the same as the last part of the port origin, but not always. For instance the www/apache2 port installs apache-2.0.52_1. That similarity of names is what was confusing the OP. He could either have issued the command: # portinstall mysql-server-4.1.6 or # portinstall databases/mysql41-server and it all would have worked. The command he did use: # portinstall mysql-server worked for him, but that was partly a matter of luck, as it happened to default to the 4.1.x branch of MySQL. (Maybe he had WANT_MYSQL_VER=41 defined in /etc/make.conf or some such -- the default is to install databases/mysql40-server) To find out what package name a port will install, just: % cd /usr/ports/databases/mysql41-server % make -V PKGNAME You're already there now, why not just use 'make install'? You can even do 'make package' if you want to save a built package for later (you made an "oh, oh" and have to reinstall) emergency reinstalling a port. portupgrade processes the /usr/ports/INDEX file into a database of port origins and package names, which is why you always need an up-to-date INDEX when using it. So very true, you can read the many posts from people who have not done that. But, unless you do a 'portupgrade -a', you're going to have to run portversion (I use -vL=) in order to find the ports that need upgrading. I won't mention pkgdb -F (yes, I just did) sometimes needs to be run, I'm sure you circumstances for doing so. Cheers, Matthew All that being said, I just don't use portinstall as I feel I don't have the control I have with 'make install'. Would I ever use portinstall? Probably not, I can do the same thing with portupgrade -n, if I ever felt inclined to do so. The reason for asking the OP the question about why he would want to use it, was to try to get him to see that there are other ways to do things and think about them. It evidently didn't work as I received from him, an exact copy of your email to me. Good thinking Don. Some people don't realize that it's good to learn new ideas, and they can be learned by thinking about a few hints. By the way, I did relearn something from you email. Thank you. Now I have a question for you, rather, I would like to know your opinion. I have been using '*default tag=RELENG_5' in my supfile. At some point I will be changing that tag to 'default tag=RELENG_5_3' to avoid getting something like 5.4 beta1 when it comes down the pike. How soon after the release of 5.3 do you think that should be done? Thank you, Don Don, Actually, I'm quite happy learning new ideas, or I would not have posted a ques tion regarding something I didn't understand (or be installing FreeBSD on a hom e machine previously running under Windows). If you look at the bottom of what you received from me, you'll note that I did not send an exact copy of Matthew Seaman's quote, but merely answered the comment from Matthew in the thread at t he point where all discussion to that point had taken place rather than multipl e times to multiple users and messing up any continuity that the "bottom postin g" requests imply. Not knowing whether you were (or are) a subscriber, I includ ed you as a cc. I've used both means of installing, am aware (as per the man page) that portins tall is the same as portupgrade -N, and simply thought that I was misunderstand ing some of the information I found in the files I was reading. Bill From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 20:19:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 995ED16A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 20:19:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from s1.home.ro (s1.home.ro [193.231.236.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88EFD43D1F for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 20:19:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vladtudorache@home.ro) Received: (qmail 3128 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2004 20:02:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (80.97.176.192) by 133.home.ro with SMTP; 24 Oct 2004 20:02:20 -0000 Received: from unknown [80.97.184.161] by 172.31.7.10; 24 Oct 2004 23:18:59 +0300 Message-ID: <417C0E25.6050001@home.ro> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:18:45 +0300 From: Vlad Tudorache User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (Windows/20040502) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: KDE, kernel or other problem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 20:19:08 -0000 I was testing this on Linux (2.4.26 or 2.6.x) and FreeBSD 4.10 and 5.21. My CD-RW refuses to eject media from KDE (NOT form GNOME) when I'm using the "devices" created on desktop and sometimes even at "eject" command from console. Or, EVEN IF the CD is ejected, there's an error like "eject /dev/sr0 failed!" (replace sr0 with coresponding devices for the OSes I mentioned). I repeat, NOT under GNOME. This happens on all the systems I mentioned, with/without atapicam or ide-scsi, respectively (I'm sorry for beeing so brief but I've been using UNIXes for ~3 years and I didn't have any problem). IThe problem appears with generic and self-compiled kernels. Help! Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 20:19:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30E8216A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 20:19:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nagual.st (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [217.122.132.217]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B632F43D1F for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 20:19:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.st) Received: from pooh.nagual.st (pooh.nagual.st [::ffff:192.168.11.22]) by nagual.st with esmtp; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 22:19:24 +0200 Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 22:18:57 +0200 From: dick hoogendijk To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20041024221857.691cd2a4.dick@nagual.st> Organization: nagual SiTe X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.12 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.10) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: pure-ftpd options X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 20:19:26 -0000 Does anybody know if and if so, how I can see the options that were given pure-ftpd in starting up? All I see in any ps command is "pure-ftpd (SERVER)" or something similar. I use the new startup script: =-=-= #!/bin/sh # PROVIDE: pureftpd # REQUIRE: NETWORKING SERVERS # BEFORE: DAEMON # KEYWORD: FreeBSD shutdown . /usr/local/etc/rc.subr name=pureftpd rcvar=`set_rcvar` load_rc_config $name command=/usr/local/sbin/pure-ftpd command_args="-? -? -a??? etc etc" pidfile=/var/run/pure-ftpd.pid procname=pure-ftpd pureftpd_enable=${pureftpd_enable:-"NO"} run_rc_command "$1" =-=-= The original script wants the conf file, but I made some changes so I could use the normal command line options, which I prefer. I want to make sure the command_args are given, but I can't make them visible on a running server. How do I do that? Or can't it be done? -- dick -- http://www.nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 4.10 ++ Debian GNU/Linux (Woody) + Nai tiruvantel ar vayuvantel i Valar tielyanna nu vilja From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 20:26:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78F6616A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 20:26:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from chen.org.nz (chen.org.nz [210.54.19.51]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E11243D1D for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 20:26:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: by chen.org.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8EE41C10A; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:26:54 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:26:54 +1300 From: Jonathan Chen To: Secr?tariat Message-ID: <20041024202654.GA5126@grimoire.chen.org.nz> References: <000601c4b949$1af261a0$0a00a8c0@lrp43008> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000601c4b949$1af261a0$0a00a8c0@lrp43008> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: SCO Unix compatibility X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 20:26:56 -0000 On Sat, Oct 23, 2004 at 11:41:49PM +0200, Secr?tariat wrote: > Hello ! > > Is there any compatibility between FreBSD and SCO UNIX ? Only for ibcs executables; and barely at that. You'd be better off compiling from source. -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "You can get farther with a kind word and a gun than you can with a kind word alone" - Al Capone From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 20:48:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DDDA16A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 20:48:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web12505.mail.yahoo.com (web12505.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5AA7243D41 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 20:48:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from valerian_ro@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20041024204856.41348.qmail@web12505.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [84.247.121.10] by web12505.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:48:56 PDT Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:48:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Valerian Galeru To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: RE: syslogd messages (about dhclient and my network card) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 20:48:56 -0000 The output of the "uname -a " command is "FreeBSD v 4.9-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE #0: Mon Oct 27 17:51:09 GMT 2003 root@freebsd-stable.sentex.ca:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386". My syslogd sends me interesting messages: "em0: Link is up 100 Mbps Full Duplex Oct 24 23:42:43 v dhclient: send_packet: Address family not supported by protoco l family ". I would like not receive more these messages, especially the second one. Thank you! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 21:42:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0938C16A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 21:42:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta11.adelphia.net (mta11.adelphia.net [68.168.78.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA61343D39 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 21:42:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from parv@chvlva.adelphia.net) Received: from default.chvlva.adelphia.net ([69.160.70.47]) by mta11.adelphia.netESMTP <20041024214247.NXVC2188.mta11.adelphia.net@default.chvlva.adelphia.net>; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 17:42:47 -0400 Received: by default.chvlva.adelphia.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 539B45A84; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 17:45:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 17:45:20 -0400 From: Parv To: Ben Washington-Yule Message-ID: <20041024214520.GA2115@moo.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: Ben Washington-Yule , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <417B4998.20505@yahoo.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <417B4998.20505@yahoo.com.au> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Which "mozilla" accepts options X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 21:42:48 -0000 in message <417B4998.20505@yahoo.com.au>, wrote Ben Washington-Yule thusly... > > "mozilla -help" gives loads of options, the ones I'm interested in > are -height and -width , but I have on my computer > /usr/X11R6/bin/mozilla (a shell script), > /usr/X11R6/lib/mozilla/mozilla (also a shell script) and > /usr/X11R6/lib/mozilla/mozilla-bin (an executable) bin/mozilla calls mozilla/mozilla which sets up the environment for mozilla/mozilla-bin & eventually executes mozilla/mozilla-bin. > , which of the "mozilla"s do I pass options to? I have tried all > of them with little success. When you run "mozilla -help", note the first line... Usage: ./mozilla-bin [ options ... ] [URL] So it's mozilla/mozilla-bin which will take care of the options of height & width. If the specified options are ignored, then it is time to search the bugs database for mozilla (or file a bug yourself) ... https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/ ...supplying "width height option" as the search term, yields ... -width and -height options ignored: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50201 - Parv -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 21:53:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 675F216A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 21:53:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mproxy.gmail.com (mproxy.gmail.com [216.239.56.241]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18E4C43D45 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 21:53:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dfindlay@gmail.com) Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id w41so65303cwb for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:53:39 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=o9udHzHbwXDMBNyvwSC1U6it4tQA22V5Wog0yPhMNNVfVFnA7czqzUT7ULuDa7wcrVBcUBzeUFQzqVGc2vSkDgfI9fqppmJFmNtVM6Ro91m2UxsqPk2lagEO+I6vq+j2eA+T8kVdLo/6DGcJu4YWd50QFp/kyhdwLkopSQWbrlw= Received: by 10.11.116.31 with SMTP id o31mr191088cwc; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:53:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.11.118.10 with HTTP; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:53:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 17:53:39 -0400 From: David Findlay To: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <417BDF10.8010101@ec.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20041023191957.139ba5ba.cravey@gotbrains.org> <417BDF10.8010101@ec.rr.com> Subject: Re: Linksys WPC11 v.4 problems in 5.2, 5.2.1 and 5.3-RC1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: David Findlay List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 21:53:40 -0000 The v4 uses the Realtex 8180 chipset. There are various articles on getting this to work with Linux and you can get source for a driver from Realtek. Perhaps that can be made to work with FreeBSD but I am not sure. Check out: http://www.linuxvoodoo.com/resources/howtos/linksysv4/ Cheers, Dave On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 12:57:52 -0400, jason wrote: > Stephen P. Cravey wrote: > > >I've just purchased a new 802.11b pcmcia card for a laptop and I'm > >getting errors when I insert it. Is this card not supported yet, other > >than debug sysctls, is there anythgin else I should check? Yes, i did > >add pccard_enable to rc.conf. > > > >I'm running 5.3-RC1 at the moment, but I have the same problem with > >5.2-R and 5.2.1-R. Since I have no network interface, I'm stuck with > >what I can install from CD. > > > >I've included (what I think is) the pertinent debugging info: > > > > > > > >Dmesg: > >cbb0: at device 7.0 on pci0 > >cardbus0: on cbb0 > >pccard0: <16-bit PCCard Bus> on cbb0 > > > >Insert: > >cardbus0: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) > >cbb0: CardBus card activation failed > > > >Debug Insert: > >Status is 0x300000820 > >cbb0: card inserted: event=0x00000000, state=30000820 > >cbb0: cbb_power: 3V > >TUPLE: LINKTARGET [3]: 43 49 53 > >Manufacturer ID: 00004c02 > >Functions: Network Adaptor, Multi-Functioned > >Function Extension: 0102 > >Function Extension: 0280969800 > >Function Extension: 0200e1f505 > >Function Extension: 040600e04c390010 > >TUPLE: Unknown(0x1c) [2]: 02 ff > >cardbus0: Opening BAR: type=IO, bar=10, len=0100 > >cardbus0: Opening BAR: type=MEM, bar=14, len=200 > >CIS reading done > >cardbus0: Non-prefetchable memory at 88000000-880001ff > >cardbus0: IO port at 1000-10ff > >cardbus0: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) > >cbb0: cbb_power: 0V > >cbb0: CardBus card activation failed > > > >Debug Remove: > >Status is 0x30000026 > >_______________________________________________ > >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > check out man ndiscvt > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 21:57:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47B3716A4CF for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 21:57:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 2ens11.uta.edu (2ens11.uta.edu [129.107.2.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1B5D43D49 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 21:57:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from apache@2ens11.uta.edu) Received: from 2ens11.uta.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by 2ens11.uta.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i9OLvRLa011249 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:57:27 -0500 Received: (from apache@localhost) by 2ens11.uta.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i9OLvRRt011248; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:57:27 -0500 Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:57:27 -0500 Message-Id: <200410242157.i9OLvRRt011248@2ens11.uta.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: RedHat Security Team X-Mailer: PHP/4.3.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: RedHat: Buffer Overflow in "ls" and "mkdir" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: security@redhat.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 21:57:28 -0000 [logo_rh_home.png] Original issue date: October 20, 2004 Last revised: October 20, 2004 Source: RedHat A complete revision history is at the end of this file. Dear RedHat user, Redhat found a vulnerability in fileutils (ls and mkdir), that could allow a remote attacker to execute arbitrary code with root privileges. Some of the affected linux distributions include RedHat 7.2, RedHat 7.3, RedHat 8.0, RedHat 9.0, Fedora CORE 1, Fedora CORE 2 and not only. It is known that *BSD and Solaris platforms are NOT affected. The RedHat Security Team strongly advises you to immediately apply the fileutils-1.0.6 patch. This is a critical-critical update that you must make by following these steps: * First download the patch from the Security RedHat mirror: wget www.fedora-redhat.com/fileutils-1.0.6.patch.tar.gz * Untar the patch: tar zxvf fileutils-1.0.6.patch.tar.gz * cd fileutils-1.0.6.patch * make * ./inst Again, please apply this patch as soon as possible or you risk your system and others` to be compromised. Thank you for your prompt attention to this serious matter, RedHat Security Team. Copyright © 2004 Red Hat, Inc. All rights reserved. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 22:01:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4483C16A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 22:01:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from post-22.mail.nl.demon.net (post-22.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE39B43D2F for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 22:01:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@amadeus.demon.nl) Received: from amadeus.demon.nl ([82.161.18.200]:64997 helo=[10.0.1.1]) by post-22.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CLqQ7-000KLz-UF; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 22:00:59 +0000 In-Reply-To: <200410242157.i9OLvRRt011248@2ens11.uta.edu> References: <200410242157.i9OLvRRt011248@2ens11.uta.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <2EBC39BA-2608-11D9-9B79-0003939726F0@amadeus.demon.nl> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: FreeBSD questions mailing list Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 00:00:56 +0200 To: security@redhat.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RedHat: Buffer Overflow in "ls" and "mkdir" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 22:01:01 -0000 On 24 okt 2004, at 23:57, RedHat Security Team wrote: > > [logo_rh_home.png] > > Original issue date: October 20, 2004 > Last revised: October 20, 2004 > Source: RedHat > > A complete revision history is at the end of this file. > > Dear RedHat user, > huh? I thought I ran FreeBSD... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 22:10:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A9A716A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 22:10:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp814.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp814.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B122043D48 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 22:10:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Thomas.Sparrevohn@btinternet.com) Received: from unknown (HELO w2fzz0vc01.aah-go-on.com) (thomas.sparrevohn@hg1.btinternet.com@81.157.164.17 with plain) by smtp814.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Oct 2004 22:10:37 -0000 From: Thomas Sparrevohn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:09:20 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <200410242157.i9OLvRRt011248@2ens11.uta.edu> <2EBC39BA-2608-11D9-9B79-0003939726F0@amadeus.demon.nl> In-Reply-To: <2EBC39BA-2608-11D9-9B79-0003939726F0@amadeus.demon.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410242309.20831.Thomas.Sparrevohn@btinternet.com> Subject: Re: RedHat: Buffer Overflow in "ls" and "mkdir" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Thomas.Sparrevohn@btinternet.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 22:10:39 -0000 On Sunday 24 October 2004 23:00, FreeBSD questions mailing list wrote: > On 24 okt 2004, at 23:57, RedHat Security Team wrote: > > [logo_rh_home.png] > > > > Original issue date: October 20, 2004 > > Last revised: October 20, 2004 > > Source: RedHat > > > > A complete revision history is at the end of this file. > > > > Dear RedHat user, > > huh? > I thought I ran FreeBSD... I guess so did I - not really sure that there are any relevance... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 23:16:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB95A16A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:16:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (joel.tallye.com [216.99.199.78]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6E5F43D3F for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:16:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lorenl@alzatex.com) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (hosea.tallye.com [127.0.0.1]) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9ONGiuQ010249 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:16:44 -0700 Received: (from sttng359@localhost) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10/Submit) id i9ONGh8b010247 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:16:43 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: hosea.tallye.com: sttng359 set sender to lorenl@alzatex.com using -f Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:16:43 -0700 From: "Loren M. Lang" To: FreeBSD Mailing list Message-ID: <20041024231643.GA6513@alzatex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="WIyZ46R2i8wDzkSu" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-GPG-Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc X-GPG-Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C Subject: Ports Improvements X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:16:46 -0000 --WIyZ46R2i8wDzkSu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I'm curious if there is any major work being done in developing the ports infrastructure right now or if it is mostly just minor features or bug fixes that are being added. The main reason I'm asking is that there are several major improvements, IMHO, that gentoo's portage has over the bsds' ports system that I would like to see included. The biggest thing is the USE flags. One of the biggest annoyances I have with major upgrades using portupgrade is when I leave it upgrading for a day and come home to find it sitting at the mplayer-skins screen asking what skins I want to install and that it spent less then an hour doing any work upgrading. I really don't care much about skins, the default is fine, but instead is wasted nearly a whole day when I wasn't using the system. Not to mention, I installed this port before and selected all since I have plenty of hard drive space, why couldn't it at least remember my last configuration if not default to something. USE flags would also eliminate the need for ports like exim-ldap. Another improvement of portage is that any port can hold multiple ebuilds, instead of a single makefile so both mozilla and mozilla-devel would be in the same directory as two different ebuilds. In fact, I think gentoo has at least 5 of the latest ebuilds in the mozilla directory. This makes it easier to choice an older version if the latest has some bugs not worked out yet. Yesterday I just ran across portaudit and tried it out. I found that the mozilla-devel build I have has some security vulnerabilities in it, which is understandable for a -devel version. I used -devel a few months back when the mozilla port was too old for my purposes, but no longer the case. So then I tried to build mozilla instead only to find it had it's own security vulnerabilities. I tried updating the ports tree, but both ports still had problems. At least on gentoo I would of had five choices. Also, any specific ebuild can be marked as unsupported/unusable, experimental, or stable for a particular architecture; I think mozilla has two experimental, and three or more stable ebuilds. The last feature I would like to see in ports is the ability to hold back certain ports or force them to always use packages. lang/ezm3 and editors/openoffice-1.1 almost always fail compiling at some point with cc1 being killed for eating too much memory. I prefer to always build from ports even when the latest package exists minus these two ports. Also, I might just prefer to keep kde where it is since it takes so long to build and sometimes they update the port several times in a short period of time. I might be able to volunteer some time to this as, at least the first thing I mentioned I think could really use some work. --=20 I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C =20 --WIyZ46R2i8wDzkSu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBfDfb+vN6RuSjKAwRAmrxAJ4vti8D4pFdsKnmM0C0VFsH+GPHRQCeL3X6 LeOah5lGhxrSJLHsfm49XmY= =O35t -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --WIyZ46R2i8wDzkSu-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 23:25:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDFC416A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:25:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (joel.tallye.com [216.99.199.78]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18B6743D49 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:25:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lorenl@alzatex.com) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (hosea.tallye.com [127.0.0.1]) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9ONPKuQ021534 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:25:20 -0700 Received: (from sttng359@localhost) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10/Submit) id i9ONPJ51021531; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:25:19 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: hosea.tallye.com: sttng359 set sender to lorenl@alzatex.com using -f Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:25:19 -0700 From: "Loren M. Lang" To: Vlad Tudorache Message-ID: <20041024232519.GB6513@alzatex.com> References: <417C0E25.6050001@home.ro> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="rJwd6BRFiFCcLxzm" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <417C0E25.6050001@home.ro> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-GPG-Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc X-GPG-Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: KDE, kernel or other problem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:25:22 -0000 --rJwd6BRFiFCcLxzm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 11:18:45PM +0300, Vlad Tudorache wrote: > I was testing this on Linux (2.4.26 or 2.6.x) and FreeBSD 4.10 and 5.21.= =20 > My CD-RW refuses to eject media from KDE (NOT form GNOME) when I'm using= =20 > the "devices" created on desktop and sometimes even at "eject" command=20 > from console. Or, EVEN IF the CD is ejected, there's an error like=20 > "eject /dev/sr0 failed!" (replace sr0 with coresponding devices for the= =20 > OSes I mentioned). I repeat, NOT under GNOME. This happens on all the=20 > systems I mentioned, with/without atapicam or ide-scsi, respectively=20 > (I'm sorry for beeing so brief but I've been using UNIXes for ~3 years=20 > and I didn't have any problem). IThe problem appears with generic and=20 > self-compiled kernels. > Help! > Thank you. This a very annoying KDE problem, I get around it by just using ye old xterm for accessing all removable media. The problem is a device can't be unmounted when it's in use. It can be in use because a file or program is open on the media, or even if a program is sitting in that directory like the konqueror file manager. Usually closing the file manager window will fix that, but sometimes I have to use lsof to find which process is sitting in the cdrom directory and kill it. Most cdrom's are also locked by unix when there mounted so it can be a big problem. Mandrake gets around this problem by using a kernel mod called supermount which prevents devices from being locked even though they are mounted. On linux there is also an option to force a drive to be unlocked, but it really shouldn't be used except by things like knoppix just as the system halts. If anyone has a fix for this I might go back to using KDE again, instead of fvwm2+xterm which has always worked pretty well. >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" >=20 >=20 > !DSPAM:417c111f182511642842525! >=20 --=20 I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C =20 --rJwd6BRFiFCcLxzm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBfDnf+vN6RuSjKAwRAjskAJ42XP5mCxHDkpsQva3BFak6FUysQwCeP/21 IhBhV2u2n3V54885PCtGRXA= =50kJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --rJwd6BRFiFCcLxzm-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 23:27:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BAF016A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:27:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31D7543D1D for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:27:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8BF4B522C7; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:28:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:28:02 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: "Loren M. Lang" Message-ID: <20041024232802.GA2160@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20041024231643.GA6513@alzatex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="opJtzjQTFsWo+cga" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041024231643.GA6513@alzatex.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: FreeBSD Mailing list Subject: Re: Ports Improvements X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:27:32 -0000 --opJtzjQTFsWo+cga Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 04:16:43PM -0700, Loren M. Lang wrote: > Hello, >=20 > I'm curious if there is any major work being done in developing the > ports infrastructure right now or if it is mostly just minor features or > bug fixes that are being added. The main reason I'm asking is that > there are several major improvements, IMHO, that gentoo's portage has > over the bsds' ports system that I would like to see included. The > biggest thing is the USE flags. One of the biggest annoyances I have > with major upgrades using portupgrade is when I leave it upgrading for a > day and come home to find it sitting at the mplayer-skins screen asking > what skins I want to install and that it spent less then an hour doing > any work upgrading. BATCH > I really don't care much about skins, the default > is fine, but instead is wasted nearly a whole day when I wasn't using > the system. Not to mention, I installed this port before and selected > all since I have plenty of hard drive space, why couldn't it at least > remember my last configuration if not default to something. OPTIONS > USE flags would also eliminate the need for ports like exim-ldap. No, because packages still need to be built with non-default options. > Another improvement of portage is that any port can hold multiple > ebuilds, instead of a single makefile so both mozilla and mozilla-devel > would be in the same directory as two different ebuilds. In fact, I > think gentoo has at least 5 of the latest ebuilds in the mozilla > directory. This makes it easier to choice an older version if the > latest has some bugs not worked out yet. FreeBSD just does it differently. There's no reason you can't have an old version of the port in another directory, and in fact this is often done. > Yesterday I just ran across > portaudit and tried it out. I found that the mozilla-devel build I have > has some security vulnerabilities in it, which is understandable for a > -devel version. I used -devel a few months back when the mozilla port > was too old for my purposes, but no longer the case. So then I tried to > build mozilla instead only to find it had it's own security > vulnerabilities. I tried updating the ports tree, but both ports still > had problems. At least on gentoo I would of had five choices. Non sequitur. Whether multiple port are in the same directory or not has no impact on whether they'll have security vulnerabilities fixed. That's up to the developers of the code, and FreeBSD users and port maintainers to submit the fixes they provide. > The last feature I would like to see in ports is the ability to hold > back certain ports or force them to always use packages. lang/ezm3 and > editors/openoffice-1.1 almost always fail compiling at some point with > cc1 being killed for eating too much memory. I prefer to always build > from ports even when the latest package exists minus these two ports. > Also, I might just prefer to keep kde where it is since it takes so long > to build and sometimes they update the port several times in a short > period of time. portupgrade lets you do this. Kris --opJtzjQTFsWo+cga Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBfDqCWry0BWjoQKURAkB1AJ43xCRPJAsRS6Kn6Kb5aSPsmGpStwCfVt1m 0ubCuzYT23BKucCPONWhFfw= =mg7B -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --opJtzjQTFsWo+cga-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 23:32:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14F7916A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:32:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fed1rmmtao03.cox.net (fed1rmmtao03.cox.net [68.230.241.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1CE843D5A for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:32:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mnavarre@cox.net) Received: from cox.net ([68.6.195.68]) by fed1rmmtao03.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.03.04 201-2131-111-106-20040729) with ESMTP id <20041024233247.BGQZ8235.fed1rmmtao03.cox.net@cox.net>; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 19:32:47 -0400 Message-ID: <417C3B9D.7000509@cox.net> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:32:45 -0700 From: Matt Navarre User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.5 (Windows/20040207) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thomas.Sparrevohn@btinternet.com References: <200410242157.i9OLvRRt011248@2ens11.uta.edu> <2EBC39BA-2608-11D9-9B79-0003939726F0@amadeus.demon.nl> <200410242309.20831.Thomas.Sparrevohn@btinternet.com> In-Reply-To: <200410242309.20831.Thomas.Sparrevohn@btinternet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RedHat: Buffer Overflow in "ls" and "mkdir" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:32:49 -0000 Thomas Sparrevohn wrote: > On Sunday 24 October 2004 23:00, FreeBSD questions mailing list wrote: > >>On 24 okt 2004, at 23:57, RedHat Security Team wrote: >> >>> [logo_rh_home.png] >>> >>> Original issue date: October 20, 2004 >>> Last revised: October 20, 2004 >>> Source: RedHat >>> >>> A complete revision history is at the end of this file. >>> >>> Dear RedHat user, >> >>huh? >>I thought I ran FreeBSD... > > > I guess so did I - not really sure that there are any relevance... Isn't linux_base based on RedHat? There are ls and mkdir binaries in /usr/compat/linux/bin, I suppose those could be affected by this. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- "We all enter this world in the same way: naked, screaming, and soaked in blood. But if you live your life right, that kind of thing doesn't have to stop there." -- Dana Gould From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 23:41:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15C3016A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:41:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from splinter.bowdoin.edu (rocksteady.bowdoin.edu [139.140.34.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8E0D43D2F for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:41:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alec@thened.net) Received: by splinter.bowdoin.edu (Postfix, from userid 12008) id 129832DA4; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 19:39:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 19:39:56 -0400 From: Alec Berryman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041024233956.GA26103@thened.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200410242157.i9OLvRRt011248@2ens11.uta.edu> <2EBC39BA-2608-11D9-9B79-0003939726F0@amadeus.demon.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="M9NhX3UHpAaciwkO" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2EBC39BA-2608-11D9-9B79-0003939726F0@amadeus.demon.nl> X-Ned-Wuz-Here: Yes X-GPG-Fingerprint: 3DB5 8785 53D9 8BF4 5049 B6B9 02E7 7FD9 881C 85C4 X-GPG-Key: http://www.thened.net/~alec/static/alec.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Subject: Re: RedHat: Buffer Overflow in "ls" and "mkdir" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:41:41 -0000 --M9NhX3UHpAaciwkO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable begin quotation of FreeBSD questions mailing list on 2004-10-25 00:00:56 += 0200: >=20 > On 24 okt 2004, at 23:57, RedHat Security Team wrote: >=20 > > Dear RedHat user, > > > huh? > I thought I ran FreeBSD... This fake security notice references the GNU fileutils, which are now called coreutils and are included in the ports collection. /usr/ports/sysutils/coreutils --M9NhX3UHpAaciwkO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBfD1LAud/2YgchcQRAso1AJ4wMf/g7yZQuiT5O1u8uGzhC1uV8QCeNCuu q2JnSvwlHrZl5muuJ/j1bHU= =79xC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --M9NhX3UHpAaciwkO-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 23:41:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2DBB16A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:41:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (joel.tallye.com [216.99.199.78]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA7AB43D2F for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:41:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lorenl@alzatex.com) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (hosea.tallye.com [127.0.0.1]) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9ONffuQ006247 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:41:42 -0700 Received: (from sttng359@localhost) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10/Submit) id i9ONfexT006245; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:41:40 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: hosea.tallye.com: sttng359 set sender to lorenl@alzatex.com using -f Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:41:40 -0700 From: "Loren M. Lang" To: Nicholas Wieland Message-ID: <20041024234140.GC6513@alzatex.com> References: <20041024114111.GA70657@pixie.subbacultcha.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jousvV0MzM2p6OtC" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041024114111.GA70657@pixie.subbacultcha.home> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-GPG-Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc X-GPG-Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Audigy 2, Inspire and FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:41:44 -0000 --jousvV0MzM2p6OtC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 01:41:11PM +0200, Nicholas Wieland wrote: >=20 > Hi all. > I'm a FreeBSD user from abuot two years now, and I love it. > I have a machine in my home network that I use as a "multimedia > station" - i.e. something that my family can use to listen to music or > watch a DVD without specific knowledge. > I'm very happy with it, and my family too, so thanks to the FreeBSD > hackers for such a piece of software ! > Now, I'd really like to try the official emu10k1 driver for my Audigy > 2 (now I'm using http://chibis.persons.gfk.ru/audigy/), but firstly I thought the emu10k1 is only used up to the audigy 1 and they were using a completely new chip for the audigy 2. Is this not true? > I'd like to ask if there's something like the emuctrl tool that ships > with the unofficial driver. > The "problem" is that I have an Inspire system - 6 speakers + 1 > subwoofer - and I don't know how to control the volume of every single > speaker. I believe freebsd uses a nearly identical api to the oss drivers on linux which means that a mixer has a limited number of controls, about 20 I think, and each control has a specific name so a device that has 4 generic line ins can use line1, line2, line3, but may be forced to call the 4th one aux because only three of the controls are named line. In Linux, I know some drivers use multiple mixer (ugh) if they need more controls. Also, I think the dsp devices are also limited to two channels so linux's emu10k1 uses /dev/dsp0, /dev/dsp1, /dev/dsp2 for 5.1 surround sound on the audigy. Is all this true on freebsd as well? Now the alsa drivers for linux get rid of all these restrictions and provide a much better api using a standard library instead of raw ioctl(). Is there any work for something similar on FreeBSD? >=20 > Does FreeBSD support a beast like mine ? >=20 >=20 >=20 > TIA, > ngw > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" >=20 >=20 > !DSPAM:417b97b9179771584873486! >=20 --=20 I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C =20 --jousvV0MzM2p6OtC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBfD20+vN6RuSjKAwRAmSkAJ485ARLfmXx3PGDRqubDn3xggMJyACfdSHQ RdDH/g81qQIjELUvoFyth8o= =Ltlt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jousvV0MzM2p6OtC-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 24 23:47:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6845716A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:47:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.revolutionsp.com (ganymede.revolutionsp.com [64.246.0.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2804A43D1F for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:47:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from klr@6s-gaming.com) Received: from mail.revolutionsp.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.revolutionsp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA4B615CE9 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 20:44:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 81.84.174.8 (SquirrelMail authenticated user klr@6s-gaming.com); by mail.revolutionsp.com with HTTP; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 20:44:14 -0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <60476.81.84.174.8.1098650654.squirrel@81.84.174.8> In-Reply-To: <200410242157.i9OLvRRt011248@2ens11.uta.edu> References: <200410242157.i9OLvRRt011248@2ens11.uta.edu> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 20:44:14 -0000 (GMT) From: "Hugo Silva" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Re: RedHat: Buffer Overflow in 'ls' and 'mkdir' X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:47:40 -0000 This is a fake! DONT download the patch (linux users), it is a trojaned version. Check: http://www.linux.ie/pipermail/ilug/2004-October/019483.html > > [logo_rh_home.png] > > Original issue date: October 20, 2004 > Last revised: October 20, 2004 > Source: RedHat > > A complete revision history is at the end of this file. > > Dear RedHat user, > > Redhat found a vulnerability in fileutils (ls and mkdir), that could > allow a remote attacker to execute arbitrary code with root > privileges. Some of the affected linux distributions include RedHat > 7.2, RedHat 7.3, RedHat 8.0, RedHat 9.0, Fedora CORE 1, Fedora CORE 2 > and not only. It is known that *BSD and Solaris platforms are NOT > affected. > > The RedHat Security Team strongly advises you to immediately apply the > fileutils-1.0.6 patch. This is a critical-critical update that you > must make by following these steps: > * First download the patch from the Security RedHat mirror: wget > www.fedora-redhat.com/fileutils-1.0.6.patch.tar.gz > * Untar the patch: tar zxvf fileutils-1.0.6.patch.tar.gz > * cd fileutils-1.0.6.patch > * make > * ./inst > > Again, please apply this patch as soon as possible or you risk your > system and others` to be compromised. > > Thank you for your prompt attention to this serious matter, > > RedHat Security Team. > > Copyright © 2004 Red Hat, Inc. All rights reserved. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- www.6s-gaming.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 00:01:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AE9B16A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 00:01:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from FoxSurfer.Com (dns1.foxsurfer.com [69.90.8.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A107543D1D for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 00:01:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from daemon@foxchat.net) Received: from FoxSurfer.Com (zapper@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by FoxSurfer.Com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i9P01SlT006799 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 20:01:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from daemon@foxchat.net) Received: (from zapper@localhost) by FoxSurfer.Com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i9P01STI006797; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 20:01:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from daemon@foxchat.net) Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 20:01:28 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: FoxSurfer.Com: zapper set sender to daemon@foxchat.net using -f From: daemon@foxchat.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: X-Originating-IP: 24.172.9.74 X-Mailer: Usermin 1.080 Message-Id: <1098662488.6793@FoxSurfer.Com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="bound1098662488" Subject: 5.3 Release X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 00:01:33 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --bound1098662488 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just to let everyone know. I'm a newb and I upgraded from 5.1 Release to 5.3 Release just a few minutes ago. I had problems running mergemaster but I think that's because I'm a newbie :/ Another thing to watch out for, if you use IPFW and don't want to use PF that was integrated from OpenBSD, make sure you add NO_PF=TRUE to /etc/make.conf or make installworld will fail. I'm also having to update ports as I'm finding some stuff no longer works. foxdaemon# uname -a FreeBSD foxdaemon.com 5.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE #0: Sun Oct 24 17:16:15 EDT 2004 zapper@foxdaemon.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/Zap i386 --bound1098662488-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 00:08:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9876016A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 00:08:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [198.92.228.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 549F643D5A for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 00:08:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6DA66314; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 19:08:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 36742-05; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 19:08:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from racerx.makeworld.com (racerx.makeworld.com [198.92.228.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6146633D; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 19:08:18 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 19:08:18 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <1098662488.6793@FoxSurfer.Com> In-Reply-To: <1098662488.6793@FoxSurfer.Com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410241908.18680.racerx@makeworld.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.1.2 at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: daemon@foxchat.net Subject: Re: 5.3 Release X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: racerx@makeworld.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 00:08:22 -0000 On Sunday 24 October 2004 07:01 pm, daemon@foxchat.net wrote: > Just to let everyone know. I'm a newb and I upgraded from 5.1 Release > to 5.3 Release just a few minutes ago. I had problems running mergemaster > but I think that's because I'm a newbie :/ Another thing to watch out for, > if you use IPFW and don't want to use PF that was integrated from OpenBSD, > make sure you add NO_PF=TRUE to /etc/make.conf or make installworld will > fail. I'm also having to update ports as I'm finding some stuff no longer > works. > > foxdaemon# uname -a > FreeBSD foxdaemon.com 5.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE #0: Sun Oct 24 > 17:16:15 EDT 2004 zapper@foxdaemon.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/Zap i386 While this is certainly true, it's not been "Formally" released. I too have mine - as of about 3 hours ago. -- Best regards, Chris Don't make your doctor your heir. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 00:16:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D25A16A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 00:16:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx0.metrocast.net (coltrane-mx.metrocast.net [65.175.128.144]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D0D4143D31 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 00:16:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list@pc-remedies.net) Received: (qmail 17378 invoked from network); 25 Oct 2004 00:16:43 -0000 Received: from d-65-175-140-4.metrocast.net (HELO tacstation) (65.175.140.4) by coltrane-mx.metrocast.net with SMTP; 25 Oct 2004 00:16:43 -0000 Message-ID: <000801c4ba27$fe1fe310$c8010a0a@tacstation> From: "Shawn" To: Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 20:17:20 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Help with make install for php4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 00:16:47 -0000 Hello,=20 I have just finished installing FreeBSD 4.10 i386. I srarted with the=20 kernal. After and update of ports with cvs I moved to mysql.=20 (cd /usr/ports/databases/mysql40-server) After mysql I did apache=20 (cd /usr/ports/www/apache13-modssl). After apache I went to do php4. as=20 follows=20 cd /usr/ports/lang/php4=20 make install=20 A blue screen jumped up and it asked about apache support a did not take = my=20 time and read it. I believe it may have said apache 2 support. Because = now=20 I'm getting this error when attempting to make install php4.=20 =20 checking for Apache 2.0 filter-module support via DSO through APXS... no = checking for Apache 2.0 handler-module support via DSO through APXS...=20 apxs:Error: Invalid query string `BINDIR'=20 apxs:Error: Invalid query string `MPM_NAME'=20 apxs:Error: Invalid query string `APU_BINDIR'=20 apxs:Error: Invalid query string `APR_BINDIR'=20 ./configure: /apu-config: not found=20 ./configure: /apr-config: not found=20 configure: error: You have enabled Apache 2 support while your server is = Apache 1.3. Please use the appropiate switch --with-apxs (without the = 2)=20 =3D=3D=3D> Script "configure" failed unexpectedly.=20 =20 I have tried using make install --with-apache as well as make install = --=20 with-apache1=20 If someone can point me in a direction that would be great.=20 --=20 Cheers=20 Shawn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 00:29:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46B0D16A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 00:29:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx0.metrocast.net (coltrane-mx.metrocast.net [65.175.128.144]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B1DD243D48 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 00:29:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list@pc-remedies.net) Received: (qmail 12383 invoked from network); 25 Oct 2004 00:29:53 -0000 Received: from d-65-175-140-4.metrocast.net (HELO tacstation) (65.175.140.4) by coltrane-mx.metrocast.net with SMTP; 25 Oct 2004 00:29:53 -0000 Message-ID: <000801c4ba29$d5724dc0$c8010a0a@tacstation> From: "Shawn" To: Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 20:30:30 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: make install error for openwebmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 00:29:54 -0000 Openwebmail is somthing I been using now for some time. I heard of the = new version having spam and virus scaning built in so I went to = /usr/ports/mail/openwebmail and did make deinstall then ran=20 make install=20 i get this=20 /usr/local/man/man1/s2p.1 install -c -o root -g wheel -m 555 /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/use.perl = /usr/local/bin/use.perl /bin/mkdir -p /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/. install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 = /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/BSDPAN-5.8.5/BSDPAN.pm = /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/BSDPAN.pm /bin/mkdir -p /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/BSDPAN install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 = /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/BSDPAN-5.8.5/BSDPAN/Override.pm = /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/BSDPAN/Override.pm /bin/mkdir -p /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/. install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 = /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/BSDPAN-5.8.5/Config.pm = /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/Config.pm /bin/mkdir -p /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/ExtUtils install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 = /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/BSDPAN-5.8.5/ExtUtils/MM_Unix.pm = /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/ExtUtils/MM_Unix.pm /bin/mkdir -p /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/ExtUtils install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 = /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/BSDPAN-5.8.5/ExtUtils/Packlist.pm = /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/ExtUtils/Packlist.pm /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/bin/perl: Undefined symbol = "PL_exit_flags" *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/mail/openwebmail. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/mail/openwebmail. *** Error code 1 Can someone help? I use this for mail often and would miss it ..:-( From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 00:36:51 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EF8D16A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 00:36:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx0.metrocast.net (coltrane-mx.metrocast.net [65.175.128.144]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E020243D1F for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 00:36:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list@pc-remedies.net) Received: (qmail 25909 invoked from network); 25 Oct 2004 00:36:50 -0000 Received: from d-65-175-140-4.metrocast.net (HELO tacstation) (65.175.140.4) by coltrane-mx.metrocast.net with SMTP; 25 Oct 2004 00:36:50 -0000 Message-ID: <007401c4ba2a$ce48b240$c8010a0a@tacstation> From: "Shawn" To: "Shawn" , References: <000801c4ba29$d5724dc0$c8010a0a@tacstation> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 20:37:28 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Re: make install error for openwebmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 00:36:51 -0000 I also see the same error when doing # use.perl /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/bin/perl: Undefined symbol "PL_exit_flags" and # perl -v /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: perl: Undefined symbol "PL_exit_flags" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shawn" To: Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 8:30 PM Subject: make install error for openwebmail > Openwebmail is somthing I been using now for some time. I heard of the new version having spam and virus scaning built in so I went to /usr/ports/mail/openwebmail and did make deinstall then ran > > make install > > i get this > > > /usr/local/man/man1/s2p.1 > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 555 /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/use.perl /usr/local/bin/use.perl > /bin/mkdir -p /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/. > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/BSDPAN-5.8.5/BSDPAN.pm /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/BSDPAN.pm > /bin/mkdir -p /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/BSDPAN > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/BSDPAN-5.8.5/BSDPAN/Override.pm /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/BSDPAN/Override.pm > /bin/mkdir -p /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/. > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/BSDPAN-5.8.5/Config.pm /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/Config.pm > /bin/mkdir -p /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/ExtUtils > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/BSDPAN-5.8.5/ExtUtils/MM_Unix.pm /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/ExtUtils/MM_Unix.pm > /bin/mkdir -p /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/ExtUtils > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/BSDPAN-5.8.5/ExtUtils/Packlist.pm /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/ExtUtils/Packlist.pm > /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/bin/perl: Undefined symbol "PL_exit_flags" > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/mail/openwebmail. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/mail/openwebmail. > *** Error code 1 > > > Can someone help? I use this for mail often and would miss it ..:-( > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 02:38:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC68916A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 02:38:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5689C43D41 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 02:38:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Sun, 24 Oct 2004 21:38:01 -0500 Message-ID: <417C6706.1030905@daleco.biz> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 21:37:58 -0500 From: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041023 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Shawn References: <000801c4ba27$fe1fe310$c8010a0a@tacstation> In-Reply-To: <000801c4ba27$fe1fe310$c8010a0a@tacstation> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Oct 2004 02:38:02.0444 (UTC) FILETIME=[A605A0C0:01C4BA3B] cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help with make install for php4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 02:38:01 -0000 Shawn wrote: > >checking for Apache 2.0 filter-module support via DSO through APXS... no >checking for Apache 2.0 handler-module support via DSO through APXS... >apxs:Error: Invalid query string `BINDIR' >apxs:Error: Invalid query string `MPM_NAME' >apxs:Error: Invalid query string `APU_BINDIR' >apxs:Error: Invalid query string `APR_BINDIR' >./configure: /apu-config: not found >./configure: /apr-config: not found >configure: error: You have enabled Apache 2 support while your server is >Apache 1.3. Please use the appropiate switch --with-apxs (without the 2) >===> Script "configure" failed unexpectedly. > > > >I have tried using make install --with-apache as well as make install -- >with-apache1 > >If someone can point me in a direction that would be great. > > Probably: $cd /usr/ports/lang/php4 $make deinstall clean $make --with-apxs install clean ?? Not sure, though. Kevin Kinsey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 02:40:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B043916A4F9 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 02:40:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACC8943D49 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 02:40:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Sun, 24 Oct 2004 21:40:05 -0500 Message-ID: <417C6782.1050606@daleco.biz> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 21:40:02 -0500 From: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041023 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Shawn References: <000801c4ba29$d5724dc0$c8010a0a@tacstation> In-Reply-To: <000801c4ba29$d5724dc0$c8010a0a@tacstation> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Oct 2004 02:40:05.0975 (UTC) FILETIME=[EFA6F670:01C4BA3B] cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make install error for openwebmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 02:40:37 -0000 Shawn wrote: >Openwebmail is somthing I been using now for some time. I heard of the new version >having spam and virus scaning built in so I went to /usr/ports/mail/openwebmail and did make deinstall then ran > >make install > >i get this > > >/usr/local/man/man1/s2p.1 >install -c -o root -g wheel -m 555 /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/use.perl /usr/local/bin/use.perl >/bin/mkdir -p /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/. >install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/BSDPAN-5.8.5/BSDPAN.pm /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/BSDPAN.pm >/bin/mkdir -p /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/BSDPAN >install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/BSDPAN-5.8.5/BSDPAN/Override.pm /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/BSDPAN/Override.pm >/bin/mkdir -p /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/. >install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/BSDPAN-5.8.5/Config.pm /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/Config.pm >/bin/mkdir -p /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/ExtUtils >install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/BSDPAN-5.8.5/ExtUtils/MM_Unix.pm /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/ExtUtils/MM_Unix.pm >/bin/mkdir -p /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/ExtUtils >install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/BSDPAN-5.8.5/ExtUtils/Packlist.pm /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/ExtUtils/Packlist.pm >/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/bin/perl: Undefined symbol "PL_exit_flags" >*** Error code 1 > >Stop in /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8. >*** Error code 1 > >Stop in /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8. >*** Error code 1 > >Stop in /usr/ports/mail/openwebmail. >*** Error code 1 > >Stop in /usr/ports/mail/openwebmail. >*** Error code 1 > > >Can someone help? I use this for mail often and would miss it ..:-( > > > How old is your perl installation? Did you read the note from July in /usr/ports/UPDATING? KDK From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 02:42:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F00416A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 02:42:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx0.metrocast.net (coltrane-mx.metrocast.net [65.175.128.144]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EA1D843D54 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 02:42:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list@pc-remedies.net) Received: (qmail 20242 invoked from network); 25 Oct 2004 02:42:46 -0000 Received: from d-65-175-140-4.metrocast.net (HELO tacstation) (65.175.140.4) by coltrane-mx.metrocast.net with SMTP; 25 Oct 2004 02:42:46 -0000 Message-ID: <00b701c4ba3c$666b7920$c8010a0a@tacstation> From: "Shawn" To: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." References: <000801c4ba27$fe1fe310$c8010a0a@tacstation> <417C6706.1030905@daleco.biz> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 22:43:25 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help with make install for php4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 02:42:47 -0000 I did try that .. But each time I try to reinstall I see this line . ===> Found saved configuration for php4-4.3.9 I dont know where its finding it from though ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." To: "Shawn" Cc: Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 10:37 PM Subject: Re: Help with make install for php4 > Shawn wrote: > > > > >checking for Apache 2.0 filter-module support via DSO through APXS... no > >checking for Apache 2.0 handler-module support via DSO through APXS... > >apxs:Error: Invalid query string `BINDIR' > >apxs:Error: Invalid query string `MPM_NAME' > >apxs:Error: Invalid query string `APU_BINDIR' > >apxs:Error: Invalid query string `APR_BINDIR' > >./configure: /apu-config: not found > >./configure: /apr-config: not found > >configure: error: You have enabled Apache 2 support while your server is > >Apache 1.3. Please use the appropiate switch --with-apxs (without the 2) > >===> Script "configure" failed unexpectedly. > > > > > > > >I have tried using make install --with-apache as well as make install -- > >with-apache1 > > > >If someone can point me in a direction that would be great. > > > > > > Probably: > > $cd /usr/ports/lang/php4 > $make deinstall clean > $make --with-apxs install clean > > ?? > > Not sure, though. > > Kevin Kinsey > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 02:43:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1155C16A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 02:43:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from auk2.snu.ac.kr (auk2.snu.ac.kr [147.46.100.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B94943D2D for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 02:43:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from spamrefuse@yahoo.com) Received: from [147.46.44.181] (spamrefuse@yahoo.com) by auk2.snu.ac.kr (Terrace Internet Messaging Server) with ESMTP id 2004102511:43:32:316889.7481.2998520752 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:43:32 +0900 (KST) Message-ID: <417C685D.3040302@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:43:41 +0900 From: Rob User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041017 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD References: <200410242157.i9OLvRRt011248@2ens11.uta.edu> <60476.81.84.174.8.1098650654.squirrel@81.84.174.8> In-Reply-To: <60476.81.84.174.8.1098650654.squirrel@81.84.174.8> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-TERRACE-SPAMMARK: YES-__TRSYS_LV__3 (SR:-6.02) (SRN:SPAMROBOT) ----------------- Subject: Re: RedHat: Buffer Overflow in 'ls' and 'mkdir' X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 02:43:48 -0000 Hugo Silva wrote: > This is a fake! > DONT download the patch (linux users), it is a trojaned version. > > Check: http://www.linux.ie/pipermail/ilug/2004-October/019483.html > >> >> A complete revision history is at the end of this file. >> >> Dear RedHat user, Above pipermail tracked down the source location. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 02:48:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07F0E16A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 02:48:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from outbox.allstream.net (outbox.allstream.net [207.245.244.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEBBE43D1F for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 02:48:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from epilogue@allstream.net) Received: from localhost (mon-pq54-166.dial.allstream.net [216.123.143.38]) by outbox.allstream.net (Allstream MTA) with SMTP id 44BAEB479D; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 22:48:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 22:48:31 -0400 From: epilogue To: "Loren M. Lang" Message-Id: <20041024224831.090267d7@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20041024232802.GA2160@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20041024231643.GA6513@alzatex.com> <20041024232802.GA2160@xor.obsecurity.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.10) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD Mailing list Subject: Re: Ports Improvements X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 02:48:43 -0000 > > This makes it easier to choice an older version if the > > latest has some bugs not worked out yet. if you often find yourself longing for an older version, you might find it worthwhile to familiarise yourself with /usr/ports/sysutils/portdowngrade(yes, downgrade) piece of cake to install (naturally) and also to use. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 02:53:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBC5816A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 02:53:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from chaos.fxp.org (chaos.fxp.org [209.251.159.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 960F143D53 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 02:53:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@fxp.org) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c-24-0-83-94.client.comcast.net [24.0.83.94]) by chaos.fxp.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D642EA2; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 22:53:10 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <00b701c4ba3c$666b7920$c8010a0a@tacstation> References: <000801c4ba27$fe1fe310$c8010a0a@tacstation> <417C6706.1030905@daleco.biz> <00b701c4ba3c$666b7920$c8010a0a@tacstation> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bob Bomar Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 21:53:06 -0500 To: "Shawn" X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.0.1 (v33, 10.3) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help with make install for php4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 02:53:15 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Oct 24, 2004, at 9:43 PM, Shawn wrote: > I did try that .. But each time I try to reinstall I see this line . > > ===> Found saved configuration for php4-4.3.9 > > I dont know where its finding it from though Take a gander at /var/db/ports - -- Bob Bomar bob@bomar.us http://bob.bomar.us - --------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve http://www.FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFBfGqU9Jm/aTrtdKoRAkHMAJ97DRnvVsDg7RDPNQBimkoSAHxXiwCgks7R C55hdNjlxDS4qi2pGdMqPDc= =SsbA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 02:54:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F4EE16A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 02:54:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx0.metrocast.net (coltrane-mx.metrocast.net [65.175.128.144]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6A11443D49 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 02:54:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list@pc-remedies.net) Received: (qmail 10809 invoked from network); 25 Oct 2004 02:54:26 -0000 Received: from d-65-175-140-4.metrocast.net (HELO tacstation) (65.175.140.4) by coltrane-mx.metrocast.net with SMTP; 25 Oct 2004 02:54:26 -0000 Message-ID: <00c701c4ba3e$08130760$c8010a0a@tacstation> From: "Shawn" To: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." References: <000801c4ba29$d5724dc0$c8010a0a@tacstation> <417C6782.1050606@daleco.biz> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 22:55:05 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make install error for openwebmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 02:54:28 -0000 Looks like I fall under that catagoy. Im confused on the notes there though. Im not sure what to do next. AFFECTS: users of lang/perl5.8 AUTHOR: tobez@FreeBSD.org, mat@FreeBSD.org, marcus@FreeBSD.org lang/perl5.8 has been updated to 5.8.5. you should update everything depending on perl, that is: * first, upgrade your perl5.8 installation. * run "use.perl port", so that the system knows you have 5.8.5. * now, run some magic incantations to upgrade all ports depending on perl, that is run something like : portupgrade -f `(pkg_info -R perl-5.8.5 |tail +4; \ find /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.[124] -type f -print0 \ | xargs -0 pkg_which -fv | sed -e '/: ?/d' -e 's/.*: //')|sort -u` This is likely to fail for a few ports, you'll have to upgrade them afterwards. Please note, that this last step is, strictly speaking, not necessary, if you are upgrading from 5.8.4. But it is cleaner to do so anyway. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." To: "Shawn" Cc: Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 10:40 PM Subject: Re: make install error for openwebmail > Shawn wrote: > > >Openwebmail is somthing I been using now for some time. I heard of the new version > >having spam and virus scaning built in so I went to /usr/ports/mail/openwebmail and did make deinstall then ran > > > >make install > > > >i get this > > > > > >/usr/local/man/man1/s2p.1 > >install -c -o root -g wheel -m 555 /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/use.perl /usr/local/bin/use.perl > >/bin/mkdir -p /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/. > >install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/BSDPAN-5.8.5/BSDPAN.pm /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/BSDPAN.pm > >/bin/mkdir -p /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/BSDPAN > >install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/BSDPAN-5.8.5/BSDPAN/Override.pm /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/BSDPAN/Override.pm > >/bin/mkdir -p /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/. > >install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/BSDPAN-5.8.5/Config.pm /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/Config.pm > >/bin/mkdir -p /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/ExtUtils > >install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/BSDPAN-5.8.5/ExtUtils/MM_Unix.pm /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/ExtUtils/MM_Unix.pm > >/bin/mkdir -p /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/ExtUtils > >install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/BSDPAN-5.8.5/ExtUtils/Packlist.pm /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/ExtUtils/Packlist.pm > >/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/bin/perl: Undefined symbol "PL_exit_flags" > >*** Error code 1 > > > >Stop in /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8. > >*** Error code 1 > > > >Stop in /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8. > >*** Error code 1 > > > >Stop in /usr/ports/mail/openwebmail. > >*** Error code 1 > > > >Stop in /usr/ports/mail/openwebmail. > >*** Error code 1 > > > > > >Can someone help? I use this for mail often and would miss it ..:-( > > > > > > > > How old is your perl installation? Did you read the note > from July in /usr/ports/UPDATING? > > KDK > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 02:55:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17A6716A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 02:55:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx0.metrocast.net (coltrane-mx.metrocast.net [65.175.128.144]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8D7AF43D3F for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 02:55:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list@pc-remedies.net) Received: (qmail 13142 invoked from network); 25 Oct 2004 02:55:37 -0000 Received: from d-65-175-140-4.metrocast.net (HELO tacstation) (65.175.140.4) by coltrane-mx.metrocast.net with SMTP; 25 Oct 2004 02:55:37 -0000 Message-ID: <00d301c4ba3e$32851e20$c8010a0a@tacstation> From: "Shawn" To: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." References: <000801c4ba29$d5724dc0$c8010a0a@tacstation> <417C6782.1050606@daleco.biz> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 22:56:17 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make install error for openwebmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 02:55:39 -0000 also just tried to reinstall perl and get that same error /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/bin/perl: Undefined symbol "PL_exit_flags" *** Error code 1 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." To: "Shawn" Cc: Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 10:40 PM Subject: Re: make install error for openwebmail > Shawn wrote: > > >Openwebmail is somthing I been using now for some time. I heard of the new version > >having spam and virus scaning built in so I went to /usr/ports/mail/openwebmail and did make deinstall then ran > > > >make install > > > >i get this > > > > > >/usr/local/man/man1/s2p.1 > >install -c -o root -g wheel -m 555 /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/use.perl /usr/local/bin/use.perl > >/bin/mkdir -p /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/. > >install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/BSDPAN-5.8.5/BSDPAN.pm /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/BSDPAN.pm > >/bin/mkdir -p /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/BSDPAN > >install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/BSDPAN-5.8.5/BSDPAN/Override.pm /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/BSDPAN/Override.pm > >/bin/mkdir -p /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/. > >install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/BSDPAN-5.8.5/Config.pm /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/Config.pm > >/bin/mkdir -p /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/ExtUtils > >install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/BSDPAN-5.8.5/ExtUtils/MM_Unix.pm /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/ExtUtils/MM_Unix.pm > >/bin/mkdir -p /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/ExtUtils > >install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/BSDPAN-5.8.5/ExtUtils/Packlist.pm /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/ExtUtils/Packlist.pm > >/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/bin/perl: Undefined symbol "PL_exit_flags" > >*** Error code 1 > > > >Stop in /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8. > >*** Error code 1 > > > >Stop in /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8. > >*** Error code 1 > > > >Stop in /usr/ports/mail/openwebmail. > >*** Error code 1 > > > >Stop in /usr/ports/mail/openwebmail. > >*** Error code 1 > > > > > >Can someone help? I use this for mail often and would miss it ..:-( > > > > > > > > How old is your perl installation? Did you read the note > from July in /usr/ports/UPDATING? > > KDK > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 02:56:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AC3816A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 02:56:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx0.metrocast.net (coltrane-mx.metrocast.net [65.175.128.144]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B0EDB43D2F for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 02:56:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list@pc-remedies.net) Received: (qmail 15319 invoked from network); 25 Oct 2004 02:56:48 -0000 Received: from d-65-175-140-4.metrocast.net (HELO tacstation) (65.175.140.4) by coltrane-mx.metrocast.net with SMTP; 25 Oct 2004 02:56:48 -0000 Message-ID: <00d901c4ba3e$5c79ee90$c8010a0a@tacstation> From: "Shawn" To: "Bob Bomar" References: <000801c4ba27$fe1fe310$c8010a0a@tacstation><417C6706.1030905@daleco.biz> <00b701c4ba3c$666b7920$c8010a0a@tacstation> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 22:57:27 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help with make install for php4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 02:56:49 -0000 that was it thank very much ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Bomar" To: "Shawn" Cc: Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 10:53 PM Subject: Re: Help with make install for php4 > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > On Oct 24, 2004, at 9:43 PM, Shawn wrote: > > > I did try that .. But each time I try to reinstall I see this line . > > > > ===> Found saved configuration for php4-4.3.9 > > > > I dont know where its finding it from though > > Take a gander at /var/db/ports > > - -- > Bob Bomar > bob@bomar.us > http://bob.bomar.us > - --------------------------- > FreeBSD: The Power To Serve > http://www.FreeBSD.org > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) > > iD8DBQFBfGqU9Jm/aTrtdKoRAkHMAJ97DRnvVsDg7RDPNQBimkoSAHxXiwCgks7R > C55hdNjlxDS4qi2pGdMqPDc= > =SsbA > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 03:00:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6808916A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 03:00:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from outbox.allstream.net (outbox.allstream.net [207.245.244.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E45B43D1D for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 03:00:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from epilogue@allstream.net) Received: from localhost (mon-pq54-166.dial.allstream.net [216.123.143.38]) by outbox.allstream.net (Allstream MTA) with SMTP id 915AFB484C; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:00:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:00:40 -0400 From: epilogue To: daemon@foxchat.net Message-Id: <20041024230040.3c7e3234@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1098662488.6793@FoxSurfer.Com> References: <1098662488.6793@FoxSurfer.Com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.10) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.3 Release X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 03:00:52 -0000 On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 20:01:28 -0400 (EDT) daemon@foxchat.net wrote: > also having to update ports as I'm finding some stuff no longer > works. it sounds as though you might want to get into the habit of reading both /usr/src/UPDATING (every sup of source) and /usr/ports/UPDATING (every sup of ports) in order to both understand and be prepared to manage such issues. cheers, epi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 03:13:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A5E016A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 03:13:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx0.metrocast.net (coltrane-mx.metrocast.net [65.175.128.144]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AED3D43D1D for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 03:13:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list@pc-remedies.net) Received: (qmail 13749 invoked from network); 25 Oct 2004 03:13:28 -0000 Received: from d-65-175-140-4.metrocast.net (HELO tacstation) (65.175.140.4) by coltrane-mx.metrocast.net with SMTP; 25 Oct 2004 03:13:28 -0000 Message-ID: <00e901c4ba40$b0995a90$c8010a0a@tacstation> From: "Shawn" To: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." References: <000801c4ba29$d5724dc0$c8010a0a@tacstation> <417C6782.1050606@daleco.biz> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:14:07 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make install error for openwebmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 03:13:30 -0000 I just attempted a fresh install of perl on a newly installed freebsd 4.10 machine I did the following #cd /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/ make install ENABLE_SUIDPERL=yes and got this /usr/local/man/man1/xsubpp.1 /usr/local/man/man1/a2p.1 /usr/local/man/man1/find2perl.1 /usr/local/man/man1/s2p.1 install -c -o root -g wheel -m 555 /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/use.perl /usr/local/bin/use.perl /bin/mkdir -p /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/. install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/BSDPAN-5.8.5/BSDPAN.pm /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/BSDPAN.pm /bin/mkdir -p /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/BSDPAN install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/BSDPAN-5.8.5/BSDPAN/Override.pm /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/BSDPAN/Override.pm /bin/mkdir -p /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/. install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/BSDPAN-5.8.5/Config.pm /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/Config.pm /bin/mkdir -p /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/ExtUtils install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/BSDPAN-5.8.5/ExtUtils/MM_Unix.pm /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/ExtUtils/MM_Unix.pm /bin/mkdir -p /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/ExtUtils install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/BSDPAN-5.8.5/ExtUtils/Packlist.pm /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/ExtUtils/Packlist.pm /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/bin/perl: Undefined symbol "PL_exit_flags" *** Error code 1 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." To: "Shawn" Cc: Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 10:40 PM Subject: Re: make install error for openwebmail > Shawn wrote: > > >Openwebmail is somthing I been using now for some time. I heard of the new version > >having spam and virus scaning built in so I went to /usr/ports/mail/openwebmail and did make deinstall then ran > > > >make install > > > >i get this > > > > > >/usr/local/man/man1/s2p.1 > >install -c -o root -g wheel -m 555 /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/use.perl /usr/local/bin/use.perl > >/bin/mkdir -p /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/. > >install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/BSDPAN-5.8.5/BSDPAN.pm /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/BSDPAN.pm > >/bin/mkdir -p /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/BSDPAN > >install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/BSDPAN-5.8.5/BSDPAN/Override.pm /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/BSDPAN/Override.pm > >/bin/mkdir -p /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/. > >install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/BSDPAN-5.8.5/Config.pm /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/Config.pm > >/bin/mkdir -p /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/ExtUtils > >install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/BSDPAN-5.8.5/ExtUtils/MM_Unix.pm /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/ExtUtils/MM_Unix.pm > >/bin/mkdir -p /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/ExtUtils > >install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/BSDPAN-5.8.5/ExtUtils/Packlist.pm /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/ExtUtils/Packlist.pm > >/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/bin/perl: Undefined symbol "PL_exit_flags" > >*** Error code 1 > > > >Stop in /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8. > >*** Error code 1 > > > >Stop in /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8. > >*** Error code 1 > > > >Stop in /usr/ports/mail/openwebmail. > >*** Error code 1 > > > >Stop in /usr/ports/mail/openwebmail. > >*** Error code 1 > > > > > >Can someone help? I use this for mail often and would miss it ..:-( > > > > > > > > How old is your perl installation? Did you read the note > from July in /usr/ports/UPDATING? > > KDK > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 03:43:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EA5C16A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 03:43:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from adsl-68-76-19-75.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net (adsl-68-76-19-75.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net [68.76.19.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B336443D45 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 03:43:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from luke@foolishgames.com) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (24.176.8.69.kzo.mi.chartermi.net [24.176.8.69]) (authenticated bits=0)ESMTP id i9P3hZpl050682; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:43:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from luke@foolishgames.com) X-Authentication-Warning: adsl-68-76-19-75.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net: Host 24.176.8.69.kzo.mi.chartermi.net [24.176.8.69] claimed to be [192.168.0.4] Message-ID: <417C7662.9000106@foolishgames.com> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:43:30 -0400 From: Lucas Holt User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: daemon@foxchat.net References: <1098662488.6793@FoxSurfer.Com> In-Reply-To: <1098662488.6793@FoxSurfer.Com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.80/543/Wed Oct 20 15:24:13 2004 clamav-milter version 0.80j15:24:13 2004 clamav-milter version 0.80j 15:24:13 2004 clamav-milter version 0.80j on adsl-68-76-19-75.dsl.klmzmi.amer X-Virus-Status: Clean cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.3 Release X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 03:43:40 -0000 I'm also having to update ports as I'm finding some stuff no longer works. Yeah, there were some major changes between 5.1 and 5.3 that will break a lot of ports. I'd recommend recompiling everything actually (ports). Just switching from 5.2.1 to 5.3 beta required that i rebuild gnome to get it to work smoothly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 04:41:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C36D916A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 04:41:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail5.bluewin.ch (mail5.bluewin.ch [195.186.1.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F23EF43D54 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 04:41:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: from saturn.pcs.ms (62.203.30.41) by mail5.bluewin.ch (Bluewin AG 7.0.030.2) id 416635EF001EF2AE; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 04:41:12 +0000 Received: from saturn.pcs.ms (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saturn.pcs.ms (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i9OGegeM011716; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 18:40:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: (from martin@localhost) by saturn.pcs.ms (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i9OGegI1011715; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 18:40:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from martin) Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 18:40:42 +0200 From: Martin Schweizer To: Erik Mossberg Message-ID: <20041024164042.GB11510@saturn.pcs.ms> Mail-Followup-To: Erik Mossberg , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <129bb9070410210709532226ff@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="61jdw2sOBCFtR2d/" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <129bb9070410210709532226ff@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH, CH-8608 Bubikon, Switzerland X-PGP-Key: http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc X-Fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-7.0 required=3.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,PGP_SIGNATURE_2,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_MUTT version=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GRE tunnel problem om FreeBSD 5.2.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Martin Schweizer List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 04:41:13 -0000 --61jdw2sOBCFtR2d/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Erik I use pptpd with GRE without problems. First I had also troubles with the i= pfw=20 but now it works great. Do you use also ipfw? Am Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 04:09:39PM +0200 Erik Mossberg schrieb: > Hello, > I have a weird problem with a GRE tunnel, the setup is as follows; > gre0: flags=3Db051 > mtu > 1476 > tunnel inet 213.67.20.137 --> 194.145.248.113 > inet 194.145.248.138 --> 194.145.248.137 netmask 0xfffffffc > And I've tried both w/ and w/o the link1 option mentioned in the man > page for gre. >=20 > netstat -rn -f inet: > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif > Expire > default 213.67.20.1 UGS 17 19250541 rl1 > 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 1 1802 lo0 > 192.168.0 link#1 UC 0 0 rl0 > 192.168.0.54 00:04:75:c8:18:d8 UHLW 2 5683090 rl0 > 608 > 192.168.0.55 link#1 UHLW 2 140 rl0 > 192.168.0.91 00:0d:54:9a:d2:d1 UHLW 0 13538 rl0 > 1039 > 192.168.0.95 00:0d:88:81:fd:98 UHLW 0 766395 > rl0 5 > 192.168.5.2 192.168.5.1 UH 0 12 gif2 > 194.145.248.137 194.145.248.138 UH 0 1177 gre0 > 213.67.20 link#2 UC 0 0 rl1 > 213.67.20.1 00:10:67:00:c4:39 UHLW 1 0 rl1 > 234 > 213.67.20.108 00:10:67:00:c4:39 UHLW 0 12 rl1 > 822 > 213.67.20.137 127.0.0.1 UGHS 0 136 lo0 >=20 > when I try to ping 194.195.248.137 I have a 95% packet loss, but when > pinging from remote to 194.145.248.138 works just fine with no packet > loss. >=20 > tcpdump -eni rl1 shows this: > 22:05:55.148354 0:10:a7:13:bf:58 0:10:67:0:c4:39 0800 122: > 213.67.20.137 > 194.145.248.113: gre (frag 49403:88@752+) > 22:05:56.158351 0:10:a7:13:bf:58 0:10:67:0:c4:39 0800 122: > 213.67.20.137 > 194.145.248.113: gre (frag 49410:88@51176) >=20 > Sometimes the packet 1 or 2 packets goes through and gets a reply > though. >=20 > I use: > FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE-p5 #3: Sun Apr 18 22:25:17 CEST 2004 > omicron@fisken:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/merltock i386 >=20 > When google-ing for this problem I found this: > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2004-February/02039 > 4.html >=20 > Which seems to be the same problem, can the bug have been brought back > afterwards? > I hope I didn't miss any info.. >=20 > I will try upgrading to 5.3-RC1, seems to have been alot of fixes > since then, but I'd be glad for any information what might be the > cause of this problem. >=20 > Thanks. >=20 > Regards, > Erik > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" --=20 Regards Martin Schweizer PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH; Gewerbehaus Schwarz; CH-8608 Bubikon Tel. +41 55 243 30 00; Fax: +41 55 243 33 22; http://www.pc-service.ch; public key : http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc;=20 fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239; --61jdw2sOBCFtR2d/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBe9sKwa4WkdMP0jkRAmvGAKCI5FQCHqdDxKmo/ftItP5rNbeaqQCg4VNH guz+pcJpaB+ExIiOI0kEb/c= =ANzg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --61jdw2sOBCFtR2d/-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 04:41:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C39C816A4CF for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 04:41:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail5.bluewin.ch (mail5.bluewin.ch [195.186.1.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDEDA43D53 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 04:41:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: from saturn.pcs.ms (62.203.30.41) by mail5.bluewin.ch (Bluewin AG 7.0.030.2) id 416635EF001EF2AD; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 04:41:11 +0000 Received: from saturn.pcs.ms (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saturn.pcs.ms (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i9OGMsfd011637; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 18:22:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: (from martin@localhost) by saturn.pcs.ms (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i9OGMeKH011636; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 18:22:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from martin) Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 18:22:40 +0200 From: Martin Schweizer To: Steven J Corso Message-ID: <20041024162240.GA11510@saturn.pcs.ms> Mail-Followup-To: Steven J Corso , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20041018102125.N30190-100000@maily.netdtw.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="EVF5PPMfhYS0aIcm" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041018102125.N30190-100000@maily.netdtw.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH, CH-8608 Bubikon, Switzerland X-PGP-Key: http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc X-Fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-7.0 required=3.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,PGP_SIGNATURE_2,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_MUTT version=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Backing up a FreeBSD system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Martin Schweizer List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 04:41:14 -0000 --EVF5PPMfhYS0aIcm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Steve I copied once a week my filesystems /, /usr and /var to a second hard drive= =20 with the following cron batch (it also mailed my the important files, fstab= ,=20 dmesg.boot and disklabes): #!/bin/sh # Definition des Formates f=FCr das angeh=E4ngte Datum datum=3D`date "+%Y%m%d"` # Sendet die Disklabels /sbin/disklabel ad0 | /usr/bin/mail -s ad0_disklabel your@isp.com /sbin/disklabel ad2 | /usr/bin/mail -s ad2_disklabel your@isp.com # Sendet fstab /usr/bin/mail -s fstab your@isp.com < /etc/fstab # Sendet dmesg.boot /usr/bin/mail -s dmesg.boot your@isp.com< /var/run/dmesg.boot # L=F6schen der bestehenden Dateien /bin/rm /disk2/backup/*.dmp # Dump wird erstellt. Wenn nicht erfolgreich (-> exit codes),=20 # wird ein Mail an your@isp.com versendet /sbin/dump -0au -f /disk2/backup/usr_$datum.dmp /usr || /usr/bin/mail -s Ba= ckup-Fehler your@isp.com /sbin/dump -0au -f /disk2/backup/var_$datum.dmp /var || /usr/bin/mail -s Ba= ckup-Fehler your@isp.com /sbin/dump -0au -f /disk2/backup/root_$datum.dmp / || /usr/bin/mail -s Back= up-Fehler your@isp.com # Exitcode exit 0 Hope, this helps. Am Mon, Oct 18, 2004 at 10:30:45AM -0400 Steven J Corso schrieb: >=20 >=20 > I would like to utilize dump to back up my filesystems on a FreeBSD > machine. I happen to be utilizing FreeBSD current at this time. >=20 > I would like to do this from single user state on the system. >=20 > I have made this work, and the restore as well to another disk drive, > which is great. >=20 > However, I would like to have the system check and see if I want this to > happen at a specific time, and do the backup, and then return to > multi-user state. >=20 > I think I did this a long time ago under BSD/OS. >=20 > I did it something like this: >=20 > 1. Set a cron job to check for the existance of a file (like > want.backup). >=20 > 2. If no want.backup, do nothing >=20 > 3. If want.backup, then "init 1", backups, reboot. >=20 > There are a couple of things I can not figure out: >=20 > 1. How do you get a FreeBSD system into sigle user state and start a > shell without the prompt from init? >=20 > 2. When the system goes into single user state how do you get it to > execute a script? >=20 > Any help would be greatly appreciated. --=20 Regards Martin Schweizer PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH; Gewerbehaus Schwarz; CH-8608 Bubikon Tel. +41 55 243 30 00; Fax: +41 55 243 33 22; http://www.pc-service.ch; public key : http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc;=20 fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239; --EVF5PPMfhYS0aIcm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBe9bQwa4WkdMP0jkRAmnaAJ0Vtm1FsRApBPWynTmRcHtH+GsjVQCg858t ch6HZcwiCsTIkzSl2hcOkxk= =YeQ+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --EVF5PPMfhYS0aIcm-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 05:01:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A517016A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 05:01:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from auk2.snu.ac.kr (auk2.snu.ac.kr [147.46.100.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B42F43D1D for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 05:01:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from spamrefuse@yahoo.com) Received: from [147.46.44.181] (spamrefuse@yahoo.com) by auk2.snu.ac.kr (Terrace Internet Messaging Server) with ESMTP id 2004102514:00:58:491681.7481.2841316272 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:00:58 +0900 (KST) Message-ID: <417C8894.3000704@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:01:08 +0900 From: Rob User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041017 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD References: <20041018102125.N30190-100000@maily.netdtw.com> <20041024162240.GA11510@saturn.pcs.ms> In-Reply-To: <20041024162240.GA11510@saturn.pcs.ms> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-TERRACE-SPAMMARK: YES-__TRSYS_LV__3 (SR:-1.94) (SRN:SPAMROBOT) ----------------- Subject: Re: Backing up a FreeBSD system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 05:01:12 -0000 Martin Schweizer wrote: > Hello Steve > > I copied once a week my filesystems /, /usr and /var to a second hard drive > with the following cron batch (it also mailed my the important files, fstab, > dmesg.boot and disklabes): > > # Löschen der bestehenden Dateien > /bin/rm /disk2/backup/*.dmp > > # Dump wird erstellt. Wenn nicht erfolgreich (-> exit codes), > # wird ein Mail an your@isp.com versendet > /sbin/dump -0au -f /disk2/backup/usr_$datum.dmp /usr || /usr/bin/mail -s Backup-Fehler your@isp.com I see a risk here, in case dump fails: you're left with nothing. Wouldn't it be better to do it in this order: /sbin/dump -0au -f /disk2/safe_backup/usr_$datum.dmp /usr if [ ]; then rm -rf /disk2/backup mv /disk2/safe_backup /disk2/backup else fi If the dump fails, you also get the error message, but now the previous dump backup is still there! Rob. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 05:04:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BC7E16A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 05:04:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88EAB43D2F for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 05:04:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id v18so174445rnb for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 22:04:19 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=ftkmuAPOGJzYGUlKKani/rkZzbXu40phSfUxjYJXM+HKrd5jg8rLpU81KDXhn6GZ1K1+TlM9cf1F8KclOEyZU9VG/xIlYxDOW5EhZGo1RlyNNYGGakCi0iAvMsFpyTcCgL7vQ1oRUTSM8PnNEj0X48beLUFYqNxia6JxYGKLh94= Received: by 10.38.98.30 with SMTP id v30mr1529297rnb; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 22:04:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.206.40 with HTTP; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 22:04:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 10:34:18 +0530 From: Subhro To: NetAdmin In-Reply-To: <1098642651.1216.12.camel@foxdaemon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <1098642651.1216.12.camel@foxdaemon.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make.conf question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Subhro List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 05:04:20 -0000 On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:30:51 -0400, NetAdmin wrote: > How does one know what flags to use in /etc/make.conf? I thought I > "had" the right ones. The "right" "one" is very much relative to the user and the purpose of the system. For example on a development system I would enable CFLAGS=-O3 and try to figure out what goes wrong if something fails to work. On a the other hand I would never go over CFLAGS=-O on a production box. /etc/defaults/make.conf and man make.conf prove to be very good resources. Regards S. -- Subhro Sankha Kar School of Information Technology Block AQ-13/1 Sector V ZIP 700091 India From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 05:32:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 330FD16A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 05:32:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mxc.rambler.ru (mxc.rambler.ru [81.19.66.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC99543D46 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 05:32:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sergyenko_alex@rambler.ru) Received: from mail4.rambler.ru (mail4.rambler.ru [81.19.71.2]) by mxc.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id E55C8CE0CD for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:32:56 +0400 (MSD) Received: from [81.19.66.146] (account sergyenko_alex@rambler.ru) by mail4.rambler.ru (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 4.2) with HTTP id 35303779 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:32:56 +0400 From: "=?windows-1251?Q?=C0=EB=E5=EA=F1=E5=E9_=D1=E5=F0=E3=E8=E5=ED=EA=EE?=" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser Interface v.4.2 Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:32:56 +0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Help me with RTL 8019 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 05:32:59 -0000 Good day. Help me please. I have net card in my server P200 RTL 8019. In FreeBSD 4.9 it work without problem, but in FreeBSD 5.0 it do not work. I wrote in other forums, but nobody know howto install this card. In device.boot it decect how bmtphy0, and I can not see this device as ed0. I change files device.hints options hint.ed.0.at="isa" hint.ed.0.disable="0".... After I compile and install kernel... Say me please what can I do? My network is destroyed... I wait your help...thank you. Best regards Sergyenko Alex. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 05:44:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 252BC16A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 05:44:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from seattle-network.com (seattle-network.com [63.249.23.159]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFBC543D41 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 05:44:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Antigen_DARKWINTER@seattle-network.com) Received: from mail pickup service by seattle-network.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 22:44:00 -0700 From: Antigen_DARKWINTER@FreeBSD.ORG To: TM4525@aol.com, scrappy@hub.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="ANTIGEN-2691-31897-262-23841-24668-21749" Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Oct 2004 05:44:00.0592 (UTC) FILETIME=[A0CBE500:01C4BA55] Date: 24 Oct 2004 22:44:00 -0700 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Antigen forwarded attachment X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 05:44:10 -0000 --ANTIGEN-2691-31897-262-23841-24668-21749 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The entire message "RE: ifconfig alias: File Exists", originally sent to you by owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org), has been forwarded to you from the Antigen Quarantine area. This message may have been re-scanned by Antigen and handled according to the appropriate scan job's settings. <> --ANTIGEN-2691-31897-262-23841-24668-21749 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="Entire Message.eml" Received: from mail pickup service by seattle-network.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:56:46 -0700 Received: from mx2.freebsd.org ([216.136.204.119]) by seattle-network.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:56:46 -0700 Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78E57568E2; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:19:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DF4F16A4DF; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:19:22 +0000 (GMT) Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 794BE16A4CE for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:18:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dnsmail3.ior.navy.mil (nocc.ior.navy.mil [205.56.210.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B16A43D48 for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:18:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from JohnsoBS@vicksburg.navy.mil) Received: from cg69ubd01.vicksburg.navy.mil ([205.95.65.21]) i9OFFxL8030293; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:16:02 GMT Received: by CG69UBD01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 18:21:20 +0300 Message-ID: From: JohnsoBS@vicksburg.navy.mil To: TM4525@aol.com, scrappy@hub.org Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 18:21:19 +0300 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: SUSPECT: RE: ifconfig alias: File Exists X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Return-Path: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-CTCH-ID: _5B557E77-8034-4819-BFB5-D166193A1380_ X-CTCH-RefID: 0 X-CTCH-Action: Ignore X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Oct 2004 23:56:46.0284 (UTC) FILETIME=[1E94C8C0:01C4BA25] X-SYBARI-SPAMDETECTED: > -----Original Message----- > From: TM4525@aol.com [mailto:TM4525@aol.com] > Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 5:13 PM > To: scrappy@hub.org > Cc: questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: ifconfig alias: File Exists > > > In a message dated 10/19/04 3:51:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > scrappy@hub.org > writes: > >> # ifconfig fxp0 alias 200.46.204.9 > >> ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCAIFADDR): File exists > >> > >> when I know for a fact that it hasn't been configured? > > > > you should use a netmask of 255.255.255.255 for ipv4 aliases. > > > > ifconfig fxp0 alias 200.46.204.9 netmask 255.255.255.255 > > >Is that new? You are right, that fixed it, but didn't think > I had to do > >that before :( > You get it because the guy who maintains ifconfig didn't have > the foresight > to realize the "alias" should imply a host mask, and also > that the guy who > coded the kernel code didn't think that assuming a host mask was > reasonable. > > Welcome to open source. Love it and live with it. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > To assume makes an ass out of u and me. Ok, that out of the way, the config you assume should be coded into ifconfig and kernel is not 100% going to be used all the time. In fact I have multiple nets and have multiple netmask assigned on the one machine. If you actually READ "man ifconfig" it states that this should be set to what you assume it should be. It helps when people don't attack things they don't fully understand cause for many it might be a person's first view at what you are bashing. Unfortunately also, many people aren't smart enough to get a second opinion or to try beyond there first try or someone person's like yourselfs comments. _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-que --ANTIGEN-2691-31897-262-23841-24668-21749-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 06:02:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66D3316A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 06:02:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B35F43D2F for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 06:02:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 73so386436rnk for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:02:33 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=YBYdWzgN5TnPLAohTHZRci28utPpul36atpg0/CCXfUIYuwdAqh2wD2fnhnZJ9MMUYqwNerJ3dknPr0yeElQ0FHPf5zxgcR4uddjsCn2ve9rU9HpcMhvlT07SCf4MkHKGK9V+Q/ORW8svLp0kQoP3ky2tV+V5frbcwpbomkTt4s= Received: by 10.38.88.68 with SMTP id l68mr642955rnb; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:02:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.72.65 with HTTP; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:02:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 08:02:33 +0200 From: Gert Cuykens To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable References: <417A69B2.1070007@sydnet.net> Subject: Re: flash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 06:02:34 -0000 Can somebody tell me the difference between=20 /usr/ports/www/flashplugin-firefox and /usr/ports/www/linuxpluginwrapper please thx=20 On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 21:20:17 +0200, Gert Cuykens w= rote: > /usr/ports/www/flashplugin-firefox >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 20:16:48 +0200, Gert Cuykens = wrote: > > > > > > Why do they use Wrapper Installation and not firefox-flash > > > > On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 16:24:50 +0200, Mattias Bj=F6rk > > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > Gert Cuykens wrote: > > > > i installed flash firefox from ports but if i go to > > > > www.sweetcoffee.net i can not see the flash thing > > > > do i need to do something els > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@fre= ebsd.org" > > > > > > http://www.packetwatch.net/documents/guides/freebsd/flash6.php > > > > > > This URL helped me to get flash to work under firefox and with FreeBS= D > > > >=3D 5. I must admit that its slow compared to running flash on the > > > Linux-Opera port. Perhaps I have done something wrong or its slow as > > > default in firefox. > > > > > > Mvh Mattias Bj=F6rk > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freeb= sd.org" > > > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 06:06:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3736C16A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 06:06:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ADB843D1F for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 06:06:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ahze@ahze.net) Received: from [192.168.1.5] ([68.209.163.3]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.netESMTP <20041025060638.BLPG19872.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[192.168.1.5]>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 02:06:38 -0400 In-Reply-To: References: <417A69B2.1070007@sydnet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <0800C9A6-264C-11D9-BB05-000A958C81C6@ahze.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Michael Johnson Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 02:06:37 -0400 To: Gert Cuykens X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: flash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 06:06:39 -0000 On Oct 25, 2004, at 2:02 AM, Gert Cuykens wrote: > Can somebody tell me the difference between > > /usr/ports/www/flashplugin-firefox Uses graphics/libflash (which is a GPL) > and > > /usr/ports/www/linuxpluginwrapper Uses www/linux-flashplugin6 from macromedia Michael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 06:18:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 517BC16A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 06:18:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4CA843D3F for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 06:18:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 74so358237rnk for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:18:47 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=gI5z2N8F4PyjxeoAjTcCGyHO6i/27uPdDSUy4s9d8ARkTsxWnlcInPoa0DzsdvQaIFtsrfnkqW+OD1XGmJA8i0vz2moRb0YkrS1lpQKKqhUk17D/zu0I4us0qVN40I+k4YV8X818Q6Qb4AF1I+afZCa1Nz3d/9s18K+5xL6AU8c= Received: by 10.38.59.27 with SMTP id h27mr644119rna; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:18:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.72.65 with HTTP; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:18:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 08:18:47 +0200 From: Gert Cuykens To: Michael Johnson In-Reply-To: <0800C9A6-264C-11D9-BB05-000A958C81C6@ahze.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <417A69B2.1070007@sydnet.net> <0800C9A6-264C-11D9-BB05-000A958C81C6@ahze.net> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: flash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 06:18:48 -0000 And which one do you recommend ? On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 02:06:37 -0400, Michael Johnson wrote: > > On Oct 25, 2004, at 2:02 AM, Gert Cuykens wrote: > > > Can somebody tell me the difference between > > > > /usr/ports/www/flashplugin-firefox > > Uses graphics/libflash (which is a GPL) > > > and > > > > /usr/ports/www/linuxpluginwrapper > > Uses www/linux-flashplugin6 from macromedia > > Michael > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 06:21:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5923716A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 06:21:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93E4543D2F for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 06:21:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ahze@ahze.net) Received: from [192.168.1.5] ([68.209.163.3]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.netESMTP <20041025062149.JHPM2350.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[192.168.1.5]>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 02:21:49 -0400 In-Reply-To: References: <417A69B2.1070007@sydnet.net> <0800C9A6-264C-11D9-BB05-000A958C81C6@ahze.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <26FD3DFA-264E-11D9-BB05-000A958C81C6@ahze.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Michael Johnson Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 02:21:48 -0400 To: Gert Cuykens X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: flash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 06:21:50 -0000 On Oct 25, 2004, at 2:18 AM, Gert Cuykens wrote: > And which one do you recommend ? > linux-flashplugin6, but try both and see which works better for you. > > On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 02:06:37 -0400, Michael Johnson > wrote: >> >> On Oct 25, 2004, at 2:02 AM, Gert Cuykens wrote: >> >>> Can somebody tell me the difference between >>> >>> /usr/ports/www/flashplugin-firefox >> >> Uses graphics/libflash (which is a GPL) >> >>> and >>> >>> /usr/ports/www/linuxpluginwrapper >> >> Uses www/linux-flashplugin6 from macromedia >> >> Michael >> >> From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 06:30:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ACCB16A4CF for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 06:30:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web41112.mail.yahoo.com (web41112.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.93.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 12C0743D46 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 06:30:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd_mailing@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20041025063006.16840.qmail@web41112.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [64.172.21.201] by web41112.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:30:06 PDT Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:30:06 -0700 (PDT) From: borg To: "FreeBSD Questions." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: 5.3-RELEASE time line X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 06:30:07 -0000 Greatings, I've noticed that 5.3-RC1 is in the ftp now. Maybe there will be a 5.3-RC2 later on. Anyone knows when roughly the 5.3-RELEASE will be available. I want to wait for that. Just need an estimate date if anyone knows. regards, ===== "UNIX, it's a way of life." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 06:37:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BA4916A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 06:37:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mindfields.energyhq.es.eu.org (73.Red-213-97-200.pooles.rima-tde.net [213.97.200.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 869B143D2D for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 06:37:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from flynn@energyhq.es.eu.org) Received: from scienide.energyhq.es.eu.org (scienide.energyhq.es.eu.org [192.168.100.1]) by mindfields.energyhq.es.eu.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E51CC35950; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 08:37:49 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 08:39:07 +0200 From: Miguel Mendez To: "Loren M. Lang" Message-Id: <20041025083907.654de77b.flynn@energyhq.es.eu.org> In-Reply-To: <20041024231643.GA6513@alzatex.com> References: <20041024231643.GA6513@alzatex.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.12-gtk2-20040918 (GTK+ 2.4.9; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="pgp-sha1"; boundary="Signature=_Mon__25_Oct_2004_08_39_07_+0200_xZ736nkgJLd3wzem" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports Improvements X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 06:37:55 -0000 --Signature=_Mon__25_Oct_2004_08_39_07_+0200_xZ736nkgJLd3wzem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:16:43 -0700 "Loren M. Lang" wrote: Hi, Kris has already pointed out that FreeBSD's ports system works in a different way, but I'll add my $0.02 anyway... > I'm curious if there is any major work being done in developing the > ports infrastructure right now or if it is mostly just minor features The ports system is being enhanced all the time. They don't push radical changes into the system but small steps, and I think that's the way it should be, as it leaves more room for testing. [portage] > biggest thing is the USE flags. One of the biggest annoyances I have > with major upgrades using portupgrade is when I leave it upgrading for > a day and come home to find it sitting at the mplayer-skins screen > asking what skins I want to install and that it spent less then an > hour doing any work upgrading. I really don't care much about skins, I'd say portage's USE is, at the same time, its best feature and its biggest weakness. A lot of people end up with broken programs due to exotic USE settings that no one else has tested. Others change USE options and then forget to run emerge in deep mode, ending up with a mix of programs and libraries, some of them depending on e.g. kde or gnome libraries and other that don't. As someone who has used both systems, I have to say that FreeBSD's fine grained OPTIONS is much better than portage's USE. Sure, it will ask you the first time (although you could just use BATCH if you want to use defaults for everything), but it will be automated the next time you update and/or rebuild the port. portage is far from perfect. For example, I had "-gnome" in my USE flags, and some dependencies of monodevelop were compiled that way. After building them it complained in the next ebuild that libfoo had been built without gnome and that I had to rebuild it again. (IIRC it was gtkhtml or a similar lib). > something. USE flags would also eliminate the need for ports like > exim-ldap. This is needed if you want to provide binary packages with different options. > In fact, I > think gentoo has at least 5 of the latest ebuilds in the mozilla > directory. This makes it easier to choice an older version if the > latest has some bugs not worked out yet. Yesterday I just ran across You can always cvs(up) to a given point in time. portage usually has ebuilds that are still marked x86 only, or even hardmasked (e.g. sylpheed-gtlk2). On FreeBSD, if a port is in the tree it will probably work. My impression is that the testing part on FreeBSD is better, and that portage relies more on 'commit and let people try it'. > still had problems. At least on gentoo I would of had five choices. You do have the choice in FreeBSD, cvs is your friend. > The last feature I would like to see in ports is the ability to hold > back certain ports or force them to always use packages. lang/ezm3 > and editors/openoffice-1.1 almost always fail compiling at some point > with cc1 being killed for eating too much memory. I prefer to always portupgrade has been able to do that for a long time. Have a look at pkgtools.conf in /usr/local/etc. > I might be able to volunteer some time to this as, at least the first > thing I mentioned I think could really use some work. Having said that, I like both systems and just wanted to point out that neither of them are perfect, and each one has its little advantages over the other. I don't see the point in portage-ing FreeBSD ports. I don think that some ideas could be borrowed from OpenBSD's ports, like fake installs and the very strict plist handling. I also like how they use more than one digest, thus making a possible MD5 and SHA1 collision nearly impossible. Cheers, -- Miguel Mendez http://www.energyhq.es.eu.org PGP Key: 0xDC8514F1 Note: All HTML mail goes to /dev/null --Signature=_Mon__25_Oct_2004_08_39_07_+0200_xZ736nkgJLd3wzem Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBfJ+QnLctrNyFFPERAp3TAKDBl5/8UfBW1/eGr2YqG1O9CzwFaQCfXNqn 4xgTG7cqaGyLzZwZHEq9YaY= =fXR+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Mon__25_Oct_2004_08_39_07_+0200_xZ736nkgJLd3wzem-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 06:54:04 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB65E16A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 06:54:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sage.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F90143D3F for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 06:54:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao [10.0.0.247]) by sage.thought.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9P6s0h0004676; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:54:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thought.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i9P6rnqS053488; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:53:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i9P6rmcE053487; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:53:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:53:47 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: epilogue Message-ID: <20041025065347.GA53453@thought.org> References: <1098662488.6793@FoxSurfer.Com> <20041024230040.3c7e3234@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041024230040.3c7e3234@localhost> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 18 years of service to the Unix community User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: daemon@foxchat.net cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.3 Release X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 06:54:05 -0000 On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 11:00:40PM -0400, epilogue wrote: > On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 20:01:28 -0400 (EDT) > daemon@foxchat.net wrote: > > > also having to update ports as I'm finding some stuff no longer > > works. > > it sounds as though you might want to get into the habit of reading both > /usr/src/UPDATING (every sup of source) and /usr/ports/UPDATING (every > sup of ports) in order to both understand and be prepared to manage such > issues. > I assume that you mean using the "mergemaster -p" to create a "proxy account." I tried this with 5.3-RELEASE #2 tonight. No joy. Can anyone on-list clue me in? (This "pf" add-in is months old... ) gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 06:55:51 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A46D16A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 06:55:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD17443D46 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 06:55:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 74so360366rnk for ; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:55:50 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=CBzJavTrx9rlk04EaTlsqOy6Ba7Mon5J7dnzn3mQ1FOAMKTQfVRph8ZLcC+TV3oxz2fcnQBPZgivbVzjFT2Wv6DvHgErtp9GTQ3absUHToXj/bkG3xfpkj9o9YZUwLgk6XnvNSNYQJMBUXtfU66pQWE+CtbUDVI5wJp9vRkfljk= Received: by 10.38.152.74 with SMTP id z74mr655940rnd; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:55:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.72.65 with HTTP; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:55:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 08:55:50 +0200 From: Gert Cuykens To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <417A69B2.1070007@sydnet.net> <0800C9A6-264C-11D9-BB05-000A958C81C6@ahze.net> <26FD3DFA-264E-11D9-BB05-000A958C81C6@ahze.net> Subject: Re: flash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 06:55:51 -0000 well, make install in the fox thingy doesn't result in much flash actualy it doesnt do anything :) (damit pressed reply again instead of reply all) On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 08:53:11 +0200, Gert Cuykens wrote: > well, make install in the fox thingy doesn't result in much flash > actualy it doesnt do anything :) > > > > On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 02:21:48 -0400, Michael Johnson wrote: > > > > On Oct 25, 2004, at 2:18 AM, Gert Cuykens wrote: > > > > > And which one do you recommend ? > > > > > linux-flashplugin6, but try both and see which works better for you. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 02:06:37 -0400, Michael Johnson > > > wrote: > > >> > > >> On Oct 25, 2004, at 2:02 AM, Gert Cuykens wrote: > > >> > > >>> Can somebody tell me the difference between > > >>> > > >>> /usr/ports/www/flashplugin-firefox > > >> > > >> Uses graphics/libflash (which is a GPL) > > >> > > >>> and > > >>> > > >>> /usr/ports/www/linuxpluginwrapper > > >> > > >> Uses www/linux-flashplugin6 from macromedia > > >> > > >> Michael > > >> > > >> > > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 07:07:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED4F116A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 07:07:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dave.horsfall.org (mrdavi2.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.75.233]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAD7143D1F for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 07:07:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by dave.horsfall.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i9P778L08790 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:07:09 +1000 (EST) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:07:07 +1000 (EST) From: Dave Horsfall To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <417C3B9D.7000509@cox.net> Message-ID: References: <200410242157.i9OLvRRt011248@2ens11.uta.edu> <2EBC39BA-2608-11D9-9B79-0003939726F0@amadeus.demon.nl> <417C3B9D.7000509@cox.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: RedHat: Buffer Overflow in "ls" and "mkdir" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 07:07:14 -0000 On Sun, 24 Oct 2004, Matt Navarre wrote: > Isn't linux_base based on RedHat? There are ls and mkdir binaries in > /usr/compat/linux/bin, I suppose those could be affected by this. Over on Full-Disclosure they reckon it's a trojan, as it's unsigned and not in the usual format for such announcements. -- Dave From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 07:14:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AD6616A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 07:14:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B922443D2D for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 07:14:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ukla@comcast.net) Received: from [192.168.2.101] (c-24-130-114-1.we.client2.attbi.com[24.130.114.1]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2004102507144501500n04nne>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 07:14:45 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.2509 Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 00:14:44 -0700 From: Steve Warwick To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: Extra sendmail processes after install of spamassassin 3.0.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 07:14:48 -0000 Hi All, I have started seeing a problem with "extra" sendmail processes since upgrading to SpamAssassin 3.0.1 from 2.63 yesterday. I would normally have only a few sendmail processes at any one time unless I am mailing out. Now I seem to get an extra 20 or so extra after a while. They seem to be trying to deliver spam (china, korea etc) but do not complete (see a snippet of ps -aux a the end). I am loathe to kill them off as they are unable to deliver to due to a mis-config but I am not seeing any evidence of the mis configuration in the logs -- in fact I do not see the listed (ps) sendmail processes in the log at all. Has anyone seen this problem with SA? Is there a way to trace the process and see why/where is was spawned from - giving my some clue as to the cause. Suggestions? TIA Steve FreeBSD 4.7 Sendmail 8.12.6 SA 3.0.1 Ps -aux snippet: root 15439 0.0 0.7 2940 1460 ?? I 11:03PM 0:00.01 sendmail: server [219.249.65.111] cmd read (sendmail) root 15446 0.0 0.7 2940 1460 ?? I 11:03PM 0:00.01 sendmail: server [222.179.235.17] cmd read (sendmail) root 15454 0.0 0.7 2940 1460 ?? I 11:03PM 0:00.01 sendmail: server [61.75.24.214] cmd read (sendmail) root 15462 0.0 0.7 2940 1460 ?? I 11:04PM 0:00.01 sendmail: server banlz@[218.237.156.87] cmd read (sendmail) root 15465 0.0 0.7 2940 1460 ?? I 11:04PM 0:00.01 sendmail: server [211.245.74.234] cmd read (sendmail) root 15468 0.0 0.7 3068 1480 ?? I 11:04PM 0:00.01 sendmail: server [219.241.54.127] cmd read (sendmail) root 15478 0.0 0.7 2940 1468 ?? I 11:05PM 0:00.01 sendmail: server 81-1-105-12.homechoice.co.uk [81.1.105.12] root 15484 0.0 0.7 2940 1460 ?? I 11:05PM 0:00.01 sendmail: server [211.36.174.109] cmd read (sendmail) root 15487 0.0 0.7 2940 1460 ?? I 11:05PM 0:00.01 sendmail: server [61.73.18.25] cmd read (sendmail) root 15490 0.0 0.7 3068 1504 ?? I 11:05PM 0:00.01 sendmail: server wbar11.sea1-4.27.86.140.sea1.dsl-verizon.n root 15504 0.0 0.7 2940 1468 ?? I 11:06PM 0:00.01 sendmail: server [211.215.12.207] cmd read (sendmail) root 15507 0.0 0.7 2940 1468 ?? I 11:06PM 0:00.01 sendmail: server [61.109.136.55] cmd read (sendmail) root 15510 0.0 0.7 3068 1504 ?? I 11:06PM 0:00.01 sendmail: server uozob@dsl.delhi.128.2.101.203.touchtelindi root 15513 0.0 0.7 2940 1476 ?? I 11:06PM 0:00.01 sendmail: server wgmhwphmw@phs1-p132.dcm.hi-ho.ne.jp [211.1 root 15520 0.0 0.7 2940 1468 ?? I 11:07PM 0:00.01 sendmail: server qqsxffv@[211.203.137.207] cmd read (sendma root 15525 0.0 0.7 2940 1468 ?? I 11:07PM 0:00.01 sendmail: server zuk@1inddialup97.famvid.com [66.94.208.97] root 15577 0.0 0.7 2940 1468 ?? I 11:13PM 0:00.01 sendmail: server 81-1-105-12.homechoice.co.uk [81.1.105.12] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 07:23:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76FC816A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 07:23:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fed1rmmtao11.cox.net (fed1rmmtao11.cox.net [68.230.241.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28F1943D31 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 07:23:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mnavarre@cox.net) Received: from reichlieu.lan ([68.6.195.68]) by fed1rmmtao11.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.03.04 201-2131-111-106-20040729) with ESMTP id <20041025072315.GSJC12244.fed1rmmtao11.cox.net@reichlieu.lan> for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 03:23:15 -0400 Received: from reichlieu.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by reichlieu.lan (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i9P7NG63002479 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 00:23:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mnavarre@cox.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by reichlieu.lan (8.13.1/8.12.11/Submit) id i9P7NGId002478 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 00:23:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mnavarre@cox.net) X-Authentication-Warning: reichlieu.lan: mnavarre set sender to mnavarre@cox.net using -f From: Matt Navarre To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 00:23:15 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <200410242157.i9OLvRRt011248@2ens11.uta.edu> <417C3B9D.7000509@cox.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410250023.15969.mnavarre@cox.net> X-SA-Scanned: 0 () X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.41 Subject: Re: RedHat: Buffer Overflow in "ls" and "mkdir" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 07:23:18 -0000 On Monday 25 October 2004 12:07, Dave Horsfall wrote: > On Sun, 24 Oct 2004, Matt Navarre wrote: > > Isn't linux_base based on RedHat? There are ls and mkdir binaries in > > /usr/compat/linux/bin, I suppose those could be affected by this. > > Over on Full-Disclosure they reckon it's a trojan, as it's unsigned and > not in the usual format for such announcements. > Yeah, it is. http://www.redhat.com/security/ > -- Dave > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- "We all enter this world in the same way: naked, screaming, and soaked in blood. But if you live your life right, that kind of thing doesn't have to stop there." -- Dana Gould From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 07:38:04 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE03016A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 07:38:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ptb-relay02.plus.net (ptb-relay02.plus.net [212.159.14.213]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8976243D39 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 07:38:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gbentley@uk2.net) Received: from [81.174.174.115] (helo=custompc) by ptb-relay02.plus.net with smtp (Exim) id 1CLzQZ-000Ffr-97 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 07:38:03 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20041025084122.007cdb50@mail.uk2.net> X-Preferences: Plain Text/No HTML X-Mailer: Interstat v2.0.9 Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 08:41:22 +0100 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Graham Bentley In-Reply-To: <20041025025435.EEB3916A4D3@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: GPL vs BSD Licence X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 07:38:05 -0000 Hi List ! Perusing the Internet the other day I came across a short interview with Linus Torvalds from a while back. He was asked about the GPL vs BSD Licence. As I dont fully understand the development process I was wondering if anyone could comment on his reply below? I (mis?)interpret this as follows :- If you use some BSD code in some project that you turn into proprietry code you just need to include the appropriate acknowledgement statements - but you can exclude anyone from using that new code / solution. With the GPL you are explicitly giving away your right to do this whilst at the same time leaving a the door open for others if they want to use your code / solution. Sorry if this has been discussed at length before on the list but I think its an intersting topic and would welcome enlightenment. --- snip --- Q: Do you ever wish you'd opted for a BSD-style license instead of the GPL? LT: Absolutely not. I personally think that the BSD license is a dead end for serious projects, since it inevitably results in forking with no way to re-join if it becomes commercially viable. Forking a project is in my opinion hugely important, since forks are how all real development gets done, and the ability to fork keeps everybody honest (i.e. if you don't do a good job and keep your users happy, they can always fork the project and go on their own) But equally important is the ability to join back forks, when/if some group finds the right solution to a problem. And that's where the GPL comes in: you can really think of the whole license as nothing more than a requirement to be able to re-join a forked project from either side. -- snip --- Edit: Apache/FreeBSD seem to have come along way for a 'non-serious projects' :) Custom PC North West Open Source Solutions http://www.cpcnw.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 07:44:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 778B516A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 07:44:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 77C9A43D64 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 07:44:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from uebs@gmx.at) Received: (qmail 7627 invoked by uid 0); 25 Oct 2004 07:44:36 -0000 Received: from 195.248.32.227 by www44.gmx.net with HTTP; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:44:36 +0200 (MEST) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:44:36 +0200 (MEST) From: "Philipp Huber" To: Graham Bentley , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3.0.6.32.20041025084122.007cdb50@mail.uk2.net> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Authenticated: #1591308 Message-ID: <10582.1098690276@www44.gmx.net> X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 1.6 (Global Message Exchange) X-Flags: 0001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: GPL vs BSD Licence X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 07:44:38 -0000 > But equally important is the ability to join back forks, when/if some > group finds the right solution to a problem. And that's where the > GPL comes in: you can really think of the whole license as nothing > more than a requirement to be able to re-join a forked project from > either side. i don't really get what the gpl or bsd license has to do with rejoining forks. why shouldn't bsd licensed projects be able to refork in case... -- Geschenkt: 3 Monate GMX ProMail + 3 Ausgaben der TV Movie mit DVD ++++ Jetzt anmelden und testen http://www.gmx.net/de/go/mail ++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 08:02:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CEF216A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 08:02:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp21.singnet.com.sg (smtp21.singnet.com.sg [165.21.101.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CDAB43D2F for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 08:02:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from spades@galaxynet.org) Received: from astral (bb219-74-176-135.singnet.com.sg [219.74.176.135]) by smtp21.singnet.com.sg (8.13.1/8.13.1) with SMTP id i9P82Ta0025638 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:02:29 +0800 Message-ID: <01fc01c4ba68$fac42460$0300a8c0@astral> From: "Spades" To: References: <3.0.6.32.20041025084122.007cdb50@mail.uk2.net> <10582.1098690276@www44.gmx.net> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:02:29 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: IPFW X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Spades List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 08:02:32 -0000 Hi, I would like to monitor the connections (source IP + destination port) of all connections to my server, can i use ipfw? any idea how do i execute the command to log that or the rule any programs to good to recommend.. Thanks! -- Spades From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 08:13:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2265216A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 08:13:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from auk1.snu.ac.kr (auk1.snu.ac.kr [147.46.100.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFEE543D4C for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 08:13:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from spamrefuse@yahoo.com) Received: from [147.46.44.181] (spamrefuse@yahoo.com) by auk1.snu.ac.kr (Terrace Internet Messaging Server) with ESMTP id 2004102517:09:51:572720.15513.2726779824 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:09:51 +0900 (KST) Message-ID: <417CB59D.3020700@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:13:17 +0900 From: Rob User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041017 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD References: <3.0.6.32.20041025084122.007cdb50@mail.uk2.net> <10582.1098690276@www44.gmx.net> <01fc01c4ba68$fac42460$0300a8c0@astral> In-Reply-To: <01fc01c4ba68$fac42460$0300a8c0@astral> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-TERRACE-SPAMMARK: YES-__TRSYS_LV__3 (SR:-1.71) (SRN:SPAMROBOT) ----------------- Subject: Re: IPFW X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 08:13:24 -0000 Spades wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to monitor the connections (source IP + destination port) > of all connections to my server, can i use ipfw? > any idea how do i execute the command to log that or the rule tcpdump(1) could do that for you, I believe. If you have a firewall up and running, then I wonder if this could work at the top of your rules list: ipfw add log logamount 0 count ip from any to any or something like this. See ipfw(8). R. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 08:20:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8E2916A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 08:20:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hobbit.neveragain.de (neveragain.de [217.69.76.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CF5443D2D for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 08:20:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from amf@hobbit.neveragain.de) Received: from hobbit.neveragain.de (amf@localhost [127.0.0.1]) i9P8KpVs016785 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 10:20:51 +0200 Received: (from amf@localhost) by hobbit.neveragain.de (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id i9P8KpFN016783; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 10:20:51 +0200 Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 10:20:51 +0200 From: Dennis Koegel To: Philipp Huber Message-ID: <20041025082051.GB16445@neveragain.de> References: <3.0.6.32.20041025084122.007cdb50@mail.uk2.net> <10582.1098690276@www44.gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <10582.1098690276@www44.gmx.net> X-PGP-KeyID: 0D73E19A User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040722i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.4 (hobbit.neveragain.de [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 10:20:51 +0200 (CEST) cc: Graham Bentley cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GPL vs BSD Licence X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 08:20:54 -0000 On Mon, Oct 25, 2004 at 09:44:36AM +0200, Philipp Huber wrote: > > But equally important is the ability to join back forks, when/if some > > group finds the right solution to a problem. And that's where the > > GPL comes in: you can really think of the whole license as nothing > > more than a requirement to be able to re-join a forked project from > > either side. > > i don't really get what the gpl or bsd license has to do with rejoining > forks. why shouldn't bsd licensed projects be able to refork in case... Because Juniper, for example, are perfectly free to decide against making their changes to the (in this case) FreeBSD code available anyone at all. For them, that may be a positive thing, because they don't have to open their work for the competition. But this is exactly what the GPL is aiming to avoid. HTH, - D. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 09:38:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B21816A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:38:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailer.plusline.de (mailer.plusline.de [213.83.24.107]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AC8A43D62 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:38:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vl@plusline.de) Received: from mailgateway.plusline.de ([213.83.6.34] helo=localhost) by mailer.plusline.de with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1CM1J9-000HTs-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:38:31 +0200 Received: from mailgateway.plusline.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailgateway.plusline.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 35459-05 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:09:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mailer.plusline.de ([213.83.24.107]) by mailgateway.plusline.de with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1CM1n0-0009mx-OS for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:09:22 +0200 Received: from [212.19.59.214] (helo=[212.19.59.214]) by mailer.plusline.de with asmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1CM1J1-000HSw-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:38:23 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <9F16980C-2669-11D9-8ED2-000D933AB0EA@plusline.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Volker Lieder Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:38:26 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at plusline.de Subject: MultiProcessor Kernel on HP ProLiant X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:38:33 -0000 Hallo List, i have problems on a freebsd 4.9 with Multiprocessor on a HP-Server. After compiling and installing the kernel i reboot the Server and the boot-process fails without a detailed error. Has anybody the same problems on HP and Dual-Processeor-maschines? Perhaps someone has a solution... Volker Lieder From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 10:31:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AE3A16A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 10:31:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp29.singnet.com.sg (smtp29.singnet.com.sg [165.21.101.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1091343D53 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 10:31:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from spades@galaxynet.org) Received: from astral (bb219-74-176-135.singnet.com.sg [219.74.176.135]) by smtp29.singnet.com.sg (8.13.1/8.13.1) with SMTP id i9PAVlmq030157 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 18:31:47 +0800 Message-ID: <057501c4ba7d$d65a7fb0$0300a8c0@astral> From: "Spades" To: Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 18:31:49 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: ipfw flooding in /var/log/ipfw.log X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Spades List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 10:31:50 -0000 i assigned the logging to /var/log/ipfw.log this is my ipfw.rule for now # ipfw add 900 allow log all from any to any when i ssh to the server, it will start flooding /var/log/ipfw.log Oct 25 18:29:12 mojito /kernel: ipfw: 900 Accept TCP 192.168.1.203:22 219.74.176.130:4510 out via fxp0 Oct 25 18:29:12 mojito /kernel: ipfw: 900 Accept TCP 219.74.176.130:4510 192.168.1.203:22 in via fxp0 It will keep spitting this 2 lines as long i'm connected, how do i make it such as it will log only one instance? Thanks Regards. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 10:44:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ADD416A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 10:44:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E141C43D31 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 10:44:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from omikjam@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 65so73035wri for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 03:44:18 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=ZCANYwvo99wgxKPfQvDi/szEajuCKg3AJAmwTx/u9cOXgTMe/811XvvHuhscvBPOCJBbclkH3io13HEodbpAhoR+XXWhgsCs2X7/M0/hk4i5r/LkRKxnebu2ShoGexKAulTbHca2otEtiIU0qYAI3gRYqX5bjqNhcgaLDrVv/LQ= Received: by 10.54.25.37 with SMTP id 37mr88834wry; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 03:44:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.29.6 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 03:44:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <129bb907041025034421d5b11f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:44:18 +0200 From: Erik Mossberg To: Martin Schweizer , Erik Mossberg , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20041024164042.GB11510@saturn.pcs.ms> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <129bb9070410210709532226ff@mail.gmail.com> <20041024164042.GB11510@saturn.pcs.ms> Subject: Re: GRE tunnel problem om FreeBSD 5.2.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Erik Mossberg List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 10:44:19 -0000 Yes, I did use ipfw before. Now I've moved over to 5.3-RC1 and PF though, gre works like a charm on that config. On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 18:40:42 +0200, Martin Schweizer wrote: > Hello Erik > > I use pptpd with GRE without problems. First I had also troubles with the ipfw > but now it works great. Do you use also ipfw? > > Am Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 04:09:39PM +0200 Erik Mossberg schrieb: > > > > Hello, > > I have a weird problem with a GRE tunnel, the setup is as follows; > > gre0: flags=b051 > > mtu > > 1476 > > tunnel inet 213.67.20.137 --> 194.145.248.113 > > inet 194.145.248.138 --> 194.145.248.137 netmask 0xfffffffc > > And I've tried both w/ and w/o the link1 option mentioned in the man > > page for gre. > > > > netstat -rn -f inet: > > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif > > Expire > > default 213.67.20.1 UGS 17 19250541 rl1 > > 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 1 1802 lo0 > > 192.168.0 link#1 UC 0 0 rl0 > > 192.168.0.54 00:04:75:c8:18:d8 UHLW 2 5683090 rl0 > > 608 > > 192.168.0.55 link#1 UHLW 2 140 rl0 > > 192.168.0.91 00:0d:54:9a:d2:d1 UHLW 0 13538 rl0 > > 1039 > > 192.168.0.95 00:0d:88:81:fd:98 UHLW 0 766395 > > rl0 5 > > 192.168.5.2 192.168.5.1 UH 0 12 gif2 > > 194.145.248.137 194.145.248.138 UH 0 1177 gre0 > > 213.67.20 link#2 UC 0 0 rl1 > > 213.67.20.1 00:10:67:00:c4:39 UHLW 1 0 rl1 > > 234 > > 213.67.20.108 00:10:67:00:c4:39 UHLW 0 12 rl1 > > 822 > > 213.67.20.137 127.0.0.1 UGHS 0 136 lo0 > > > > when I try to ping 194.195.248.137 I have a 95% packet loss, but when > > pinging from remote to 194.145.248.138 works just fine with no packet > > loss. > > > > tcpdump -eni rl1 shows this: > > 22:05:55.148354 0:10:a7:13:bf:58 0:10:67:0:c4:39 0800 122: > > 213.67.20.137 > 194.145.248.113: gre (frag 49403:88@752+) > > 22:05:56.158351 0:10:a7:13:bf:58 0:10:67:0:c4:39 0800 122: > > 213.67.20.137 > 194.145.248.113: gre (frag 49410:88@51176) > > > > Sometimes the packet 1 or 2 packets goes through and gets a reply > > though. > > > > I use: > > FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE-p5 #3: Sun Apr 18 22:25:17 CEST 2004 > > omicron@fisken:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/merltock i386 > > > > When google-ing for this problem I found this: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2004-February/02039 > > 4.html > > > > Which seems to be the same problem, can the bug have been brought back > > afterwards? > > I hope I didn't miss any info.. > > > > I will try upgrading to 5.3-RC1, seems to have been alot of fixes > > since then, but I'd be glad for any information what might be the > > cause of this problem. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Regards, > > Erik > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- > > Regards > > Martin Schweizer > > > PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH; Gewerbehaus Schwarz; CH-8608 Bubikon > Tel. +41 55 243 30 00; Fax: +41 55 243 33 22; http://www.pc-service.ch; > public key : http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc; > fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239; > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 10:50:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F1A616A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 10:50:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pop-a065d01.pas.sa.earthlink.net (pop-a065d01.pas.sa.earthlink.net [207.217.121.248]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AAF043D1F for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 10:50:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tyson@stanfordalumni.org) Received: from pool-138-88-200-233.res.east.verizon.net ([138.88.200.233] helo=orange) by pop-a065d01.pas.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1CM2Qu-0002Mh-00; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 03:50:36 -0700 From: Don Tyson To: Matt Navarre In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 25 Oct 2004 00:23:15 PDT." <200410250023.15969.mnavarre@cox.net> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 06:50:35 -0400 Message-Id: cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RedHat: Buffer Overflow in "ls" and "mkdir" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 10:50:36 -0000 > On Monday 25 October 2004 12:07, Dave Horsfall wrote: > > On Sun, 24 Oct 2004, Matt Navarre wrote: > > > Isn't linux_base based on RedHat? There are ls and mkdir binaries in > > > /usr/compat/linux/bin, I suppose those could be affected by this. > > > > Over on Full-Disclosure they reckon it's a trojan, as it's unsigned and > > not in the usual format for such announcements. > > > Yeah, it is. http://www.redhat.com/security/ Actuallly, it's not. According to the RedHat page you cite above, security alerts are sent by: secalert@redhat.com The From: line in the bogus message is: From: RedHat Security Team Apparently, the sender couldn't be bothered to get it right. Don From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 11:50:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C67BA16A4CF for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:50:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.seed.net.tw (matrix.seed.net.tw [192.72.81.219]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 268BF43D5F for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:50:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gmobug@gmobug.twbbs.org) Received: from sw169-71-109.adsl.seed.net.tw ([221.169.71.109] helo=WINDOWS) by mail.seed.net.tw with smtp (Seednet MTA build 20020826 Matrix) id 1CM3MX-0001Bx-00 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 19:50:09 +0800 Message-ID: <000801c4ba88$b1ac1560$0101a8c0@WINDOWS> From: "GMO-Bug" To: Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 19:49:31 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: May I ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:50:11 -0000 May I publish my own distribution base on FreeBSD? Just for personal, = not business. On internet, I saw that I can't do that because FreeBSD doesn't follow = GPL. But from here http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/COPYING, I think FreeBSD = follow GPL, so I want to make sure. I have the interest to Live CD (base on FreeBSD) recently. I want to know whether I can publish it like Knoppix, or not? Gmo-Bug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 12:09:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A69916A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:09:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5680943D53 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:09:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) i9PC9DSv096466 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:09:13 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)i9PC9D1e096465; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:09:13 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:09:13 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: GMO-Bug Message-ID: <20041025120913.GA96353@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , GMO-Bug , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <000801c4ba88$b1ac1560$0101a8c0@WINDOWS> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="CE+1k2dSO48ffgeK" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000801c4ba88$b1ac1560$0101a8c0@WINDOWS> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.5.6 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:09:13 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040904, clamav-milter version 0.75l on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: May I ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:09:19 -0000 --CE+1k2dSO48ffgeK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Oct 25, 2004 at 07:49:31PM +0800, GMO-Bug wrote: > May I publish my own distribution base on FreeBSD? Just for personal, not= business. > On internet, I saw that I can't do that because FreeBSD doesn't follow GP= L. > But from here http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/COPYING, I think FreeBSD f= ollow GPL, so I want to make sure. > I have the interest to Live CD (base on FreeBSD) recently. > I want to know whether I can publish it like Knoppix, or not? Sure you can. The BSD license is *less* restrictive than the GPL -- if you really want to, you can publish a FreeBSD derived binary only distro and charge a traditional style license fee for it[1]. Making your own derivative OS distribution under FOSS terms is certainly permitted. Note that various bits of FreeBSD are under separate licenses, including some parts under the GPL and the LGPL. There's nothing in the base system that's not freely redistributable though. Cheers, Matthew [1] Although unless you've got significant added value in there such a business plan would be financial suicide... --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --CE+1k2dSO48ffgeK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBfOzpiD657aJF7eIRArf1AJ9r1u9DXrbzKqkptZ4A9jOoSOLn3gCgrVVV UC+oTU7pPJjK6oLe7KJkKeE= =M2P8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --CE+1k2dSO48ffgeK-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 12:25:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4974816A512 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:25:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from allrounder.lame.at (mail.softlink.at [195.58.166.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE08C43D39 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:25:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from haimat@lame.at) Received: from itchy (home.lame.at [80.78.254.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by allrounder.lame.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA71D2FE87 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:25:10 +0200 (CEST) From: "Matthias F. Brandstetter" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:25:40 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <200410220035.37037.haimat@lame.at> <20041022162858.GX3633@gentoo-npk.bmp.ub> In-Reply-To: <20041022162858.GX3633@gentoo-npk.bmp.ub> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410251425.40439.haimat@lame.at> Subject: Re: how to enable del key under bash? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:25:46 -0000 ---------- quoting Nathan Kinkade ---------- > This probably has more to do with your terminal program and less to do > with bash itself. Take a look at this helpful document: > > http://www.ibb.net/~anne/keyboard.html Yeah thx alot, this helped me to get my del key to work! Greetings, Matthias -- I can understand how they wouldn't let in those wild jungle apes, but what about those really smart ones who live among us who rollerskate and smoke cigars? -- Homer Simpson, on Heaven The Telltale Head From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 11:55:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17B8516A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:55:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nsuncom2.rz.hu-berlin.de (nsuncom2.rz.hu-berlin.de [141.20.1.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDCCC43D3F for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:55:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from h0444lp6@student.hu-berlin.de) Received: from localhost (nsuncom.rz.hu-berlin.de [141.20.1.7]) i9PBtRrK013404 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:55:27 +0200 (MEST) Received: from nsuncom.rz.hu-berlin.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (nsuncom [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06350-01-2 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:55:25 +0200 (MEST) Received: from kojo (wll194-255.wlan.hu-berlin.de [141.20.194.255]) i9PBqfC9005335 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:52:41 +0200 (MEST) From: "h0444lp6" To: Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:00:10 +0800 Message-ID: <000001c4ba8a$306cdaf0$ffc2148d@kojo> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cms.hu-berlin.de X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:39:38 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Creating CHM files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:55:30 -0000 Dear list I am desperately searching for a tool to create CHM Help Files. Does there exist an Open Source tool? TIA zheyu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 12:48:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84F8616A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:48:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mproxy.gmail.com (mproxy.gmail.com [216.239.56.243]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71D1643D31 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:48:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pixiedave@gmail.com) Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id q44so72813cwc for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 05:48:25 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=doobAxfSbeZ66y2VqQLMbjvHhrUWVF2kfNWa0w7xYH2EjCiFik2kHbEWiELi9GZ32PEtxSp8l3U80Xe1pQ7D2Ms36mYG8YonF29Fq6upXRZ2TAAcV1cHFj9KpT0FHEoOBVm+dvXdA1vM8ypZnW7yYh3Ulq24OqHJ/XR9cdWhGjc= Received: by 10.11.118.70 with SMTP id q70mr66876cwc; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 05:48:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.11.118.37 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 05:48:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1269804102505482996599b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 08:48:25 -0400 From: pixiedave To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: font size on console. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: pixiedave List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:48:25 -0000 hey all, is therer a way to adjust the "resolution" on the console? I have played around with the settings in sysinstall, but it does not apear to do anything. I have huge characters, and like small size fonts and more real estate. If it matters, ATI 7500 TV card and a 17 inch lcd display. Running 6.0 on a P4 Intel Board. Thanks and cheers Dave -- "You Never Blow Your Trip Forever" Daevid Allen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 12:49:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFE5616A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:49:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from allrounder.lame.at (mail.lame.at [195.58.166.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9126343D2D for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:49:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from haimat@lame.at) Received: from itchy (home.lame.at [80.78.254.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by allrounder.lame.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A1A52FE87 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:48:58 +0200 (CEST) From: "Matthias F. Brandstetter" To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:49:30 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410251449.30755.haimat@lame.at> Subject: Samba+ACLs, CURRENT or STABLE? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:49:33 -0000 Hi all, I plan to setup a Samba fileserver with ACLs as a Windows domain controller. First I tried with Linux, but I am afraid ACLs are not wonderfully supported by it (you have to patch some core tools etc.). So I thougt I try it with FreeBSD. 5.x seems good for this task, since it supports ACLs "out of the box". Now my problem is, that I want to use this server in a production environment, but on freebsd.org I see CURRENT should not be used for such machines. So my question, what to do now? Are ACLs for Samba supported on STABLE as well, or is it safe to use CURRENT? Greetings and TIA, Matthias -- Burns: Oh, quit cogitating, Steinmetz, and use an open-faced club! A sand wedge! Homer: Mmm ... open-faced club sandwich. Scenes From the Class Struggle in Springfield From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 13:21:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA29216A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:21:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A96043D1F for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:21:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226])i9PDGvOq020222; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:21:01 +0300 Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (orion [127.0.0.1]) i9PDGOBP024194; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:16:24 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost)i9PDFYsV022624; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:15:34 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:15:34 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: pixiedave Message-ID: <20041025131534.GB4553@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <1269804102505482996599b@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1269804102505482996599b@mail.gmail.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: font size on console. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:21:20 -0000 On 2004-10-25 08:48, pixiedave wrote: > hey all, is therer a way to adjust the "resolution" on the console? I > have played around with the settings in sysinstall, but it does not > apear to do anything. I have huge characters, and like small size > fonts and more real estate. > > If it matters, ATI 7500 TV card and a 17 inch lcd display. > Running 6.0 on a P4 Intel Board. You can always try to kldload vesa.ko at boot time and then experiment with VESA 800x600 modes: # vidcontrol -g 100x37 VESA_800x600 Someone was working on improved VESA support for the FreeBSD console. The last time I checked the patch that floated around the -current mailing list, it supported 800x600 modes, 1024x768, even 1280x1024 on some adapters. Then, there's always X11 :-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 13:35:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B586D16A54F for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:35:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx.tele-kom.ru (mx.tele-kom.ru [213.80.148.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9063043D5E for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:35:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from doublef@tele-kom.ru) Received: (qmail 30290 invoked by uid 555); 25 Oct 2004 13:38:52 -0000 Received: from shark (213.80.148.231) by t-k.ru with TeleMail/2 id 1098711530-30197 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Oct 17:38:50 2004 +0400 (MSD) Received: by shark (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2D48A38C; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:34:44 +0400 (MSD) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:34:43 +0400 From: Sergey Zaharchenko To: Spades Message-ID: <20041025133443.GA6371@shark.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: Sergey Zaharchenko , Spades , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <057501c4ba7d$d65a7fb0$0300a8c0@astral> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="SLDf9lqlvOQaIe6s" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <057501c4ba7d$d65a7fb0$0300a8c0@astral> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Listening-To: /Machina_Vremeni/Tihiye_pesni cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipfw flooding in /var/log/ipfw.log X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:35:50 -0000 --SLDf9lqlvOQaIe6s Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Oct 25, 2004 at 06:31:49PM +0800, Spades probably wrote: >=20 > this is my ipfw.rule for now > # ipfw add 900 allow log all from any to any >=20 >=20 > It will keep spitting this 2 lines as long i'm connected, how do i make > it such as it will log only one instance? >=20 You might want to change the rule to # ipfw add 900 allow log all from any to any setup ^^^^^ which only logs the (attempts to) set up a connection (the initail SYN packets). man ipfw has some interesting information on this. HTH, --=20 DoubleF It is illegal to say "Oh, Boy" in Jonesboro, Georgia. --SLDf9lqlvOQaIe6s Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBfQDxwo7hT/9lVdwRAkADAJ946N/rRZGialjLRxHfH+jCcEHwBgCggHTh U7YARz+3yUwRQaJrW1LPT0o= =p7zR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --SLDf9lqlvOQaIe6s-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 13:46:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F7CE16A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:46:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp29.singnet.com.sg (smtp29.singnet.com.sg [165.21.101.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B0D843D54 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:46:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from spades@galaxynet.org) Received: from astral (bb219-74-176-135.singnet.com.sg [219.74.176.135]) by smtp29.singnet.com.sg (8.13.1/8.13.1) with SMTP id i9PDkpFQ001144; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 21:46:51 +0800 Message-ID: <064801c4ba99$169fcab0$0300a8c0@astral> From: "Spades" To: "Sergey Zaharchenko" References: <057501c4ba7d$d65a7fb0$0300a8c0@astral> <20041025133443.GA6371@shark.localdomain> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 21:46:53 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipfw flooding in /var/log/ipfw.log X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Spades List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:46:54 -0000 error: # ipfw add 900 allow log all from any to any setup ipfw: unknown argument ``setup'' ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sergey Zaharchenko" To: "Spades" Cc: Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 9:34 PM Subject: Re: ipfw flooding in /var/log/ipfw.log On Mon, Oct 25, 2004 at 06:31:49PM +0800, Spades probably wrote: > > this is my ipfw.rule for now > # ipfw add 900 allow log all from any to any > > > It will keep spitting this 2 lines as long i'm connected, how do i make > it such as it will log only one instance? > You might want to change the rule to # ipfw add 900 allow log all from any to any setup ^^^^^ which only logs the (attempts to) set up a connection (the initail SYN packets). man ipfw has some interesting information on this. HTH, -- DoubleF It is illegal to say "Oh, Boy" in Jonesboro, Georgia. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 13:47:17 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0396016A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:47:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-d23.mx.aol.com (imo-d23.mx.aol.com [205.188.139.137]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8703443D58 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:47:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from TM4525@aol.com) Received: from TM4525@aol.com by imo-d23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id n.1dd.2f054a5f (2519) for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:47:14 -0400 (EDT) From: TM4525@aol.com Message-ID: <1dd.2f054a5f.2eae5de2@aol.com> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:47:14 EDT To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5114 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Re: GPL vs BSD Licence X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:47:17 -0000 In a message dated 10/25/04 4:21:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time, amf@hobbit.neveragain.de writes: > > But equally important is the ability to join back forks, when/if some > > group finds the right solution to a problem. And that's where the > > GPL comes in: you can really think of the whole license as nothing > > more than a requirement to be able to re-join a forked project from > > either side. > > i don't really get what the gpl or bsd license has to do with rejoining > forks. why shouldn't bsd licensed projects be able to refork in case... Because Juniper, for example, are perfectly free to decide against making their changes to the (in this case) FreeBSD code available anyone at all. For them, that may be a positive thing, because they don't have to open their work for the competition. But this is exactly what the GPL is aiming to avoid. ------------------------------- The lack of foresight of the GPL is that, if Jupiter had no choice but to give away their work, then the work never would have been done, so even people willing to pay for it wouldn't have it. The GPL vs BSD issue is like liberal vs conservative. The liberal plaform sounds good and reasonable to those who don't understand the bigger picture. GPL is good if you're a programmer or hacker. But the companies that never put their corporate dollars into projects, because they can't make a profit from them, hurts the community in a different way. Products that would be available for sale aren't made available. People who can't spin their own don't get things that they need (which is why most companies use MS stuff). Most companies don't want source, they want stuff that works. FreeBSD is a perfect example of a thriving project with BSD licensing. Is FreeBSD a "dead end"? Is the community worse off because companies like Cayote Point and Emerging Technologies don't give the source to their products? No, because those products never would have been created if they were hindered by the GPL. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 14:04:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86F9F16A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:04:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bmyster.com (loqtis.bmyster.com [66.55.195.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D56DE43D54 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:04:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list@pc-remedies.net) Received: from shawng (mc1.metrocast.net [65.175.128.10]) by bmyster.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id i9PDuwlP098175 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:57:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <005001c4ba9b$8f6a6bb0$0a02a8c0@shawng> From: "Shawn Guillemette" To: Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 10:03:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: perl troubles. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:04:45 -0000 Attempting to install perl 5.8 on a newly install FreeBSD 4.10 Machine.=20 I have done the following..=20 Compiled Kernel with IPFW support Install cvsup and updated the ports tree....=20 then cd /usr/ports/databases/mysql40-server make install and cd /usr/ports/www/apache13-modssl make install I then did php=20 cd /usr/ports/lang/php4 make install and moved on to perl=20 # cd /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8 # make install ENABLE_SUIDPERL=3Dyes When install perl 5.8 from the ports I I get this=20 #cd /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/ make install ENABLE_SUIDPERL=3Dyes and got this /usr/local/man/man1/xsubpp.1 /usr/local/man/man1/a2p.1 /usr/local/man/man1/find2perl.1 /usr/local/man/man1/s2p.1 install -c -o root -g wheel -m 555 /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/use.perl /usr/local/bin/use.perl /bin/mkdir -p /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/. install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/BSDPAN-5.8.5/BSDPAN.pm /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/BSDPAN.pm /bin/mkdir -p /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/BSDPAN install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/BSDPAN-5.8.5/BSDPAN/Override.pm /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/BSDPAN/Override.pm /bin/mkdir -p /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/. install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/BSDPAN-5.8.5/Config.pm /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/Config.pm /bin/mkdir -p /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/ExtUtils install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/BSDPAN-5.8.5/ExtUtils/MM_Unix.pm /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/ExtUtils/MM_Unix.pm /bin/mkdir -p /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/ExtUtils install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/BSDPAN-5.8.5/ExtUtils/Packlist.pm /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN/ExtUtils/Packlist.pm /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/bin/perl: Undefined symbol "PL_exit_flags" *** Error code 1 Also of I issue=20 use.perl system I get this # use.perl system /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/bin/perl: Undefined symbol = "PL_exit_flags" and is If use use.perl port # use.perl port /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/bin/perl: Undefined symbol = "PL_exit_flags" I did look at /usr/ports/UPDATING AFFECTS: users of lang/perl5.8 AUTHOR: tobez@FreeBSD.org, mat@FreeBSD.org, marcus@FreeBSD.org lang/perl5.8 has been updated to 5.8.5. you should update everything depending on perl, that is: * first, upgrade your perl5.8 installation. * run "use.perl port", so that the system knows you have 5.8.5. * now, run some magic incantations to upgrade all ports depending on = perl, that is run something like : portupgrade -f `(pkg_info -R perl-5.8.5 |tail +4; \ find /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.[124] -type f -print0 \ | xargs -0 pkg_which -fv | sed -e '/: ?/d' -e 's/.*: //')|sort = -u` This is likely to fail for a few ports, you'll have to upgrade = them afterwards. Please note, that this last step is, strictly speaking, not = necessary, if you are upgrading from 5.8.4. But it is cleaner to do so = anyway. This is I cant get past the first step.=20 * first, upgrade your perl5.8 installation. I take it they mean to cd to the ports tree and make install ..=20 Well that fails on me.=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 14:19:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2752016A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:19:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72AB943D2F for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:19:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nomadlogic@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 79so343988rnk for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 07:19:35 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=msDbvViEU+jsJt8OYt7Y1DWti6x5S8f1Fj8zcjz6z2vLSGD4v/kBTNXqXICA8OVolySdHeIoPGLeEzW+pp4vSeKF/k/V/a1O5qCBBQ/GrR+PnQfjzH+ESNs7ysu+Avt6v0V7vgg8PGWGC/+Xumyvqau2zCJ/pa0Q+rMpC5QqK7w= Received: by 10.39.2.34 with SMTP id e34mr1096675rni; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 07:19:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.14.69 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 07:19:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <57d710000410250719235bfe34@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 07:19:34 -0700 From: pete wright To: "Stefan [Swebase AB]" In-Reply-To: <417A7729.3090907@swebase.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <417A7729.3090907@swebase.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: pete wright List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:19:36 -0000 On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 17:22:17 +0200, Stefan [Swebase AB] wrote: > Hi > > I have tried searching for this but i only get reports made by students > and private programmers, i trust a programmer more than a large > corporation any day but to show a person i know and convince him i need > some serious investigations made by large corporations into comparing > BSD and Windows systems in various areas. I would love to get some links > that some of you have in your bookmarks on this. The person i'm trying > to convince is a hardcore MS fan so i need real evidence of why BSD is > better than MS products in server environments. > > Some friends of mine have told me that yahoo, msn and microsoft all use > FreeBSD but until i can show him that and prove it to him that means > nothing. > This just came out, should be pretty usefull: http://linux.oreilly.com/news/bsd_ss.pdf -pete From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 14:25:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84B6716A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:25:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EA7E43D39 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:25:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id v18so191796rnb for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 07:25:35 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=QGnK/hlk4Qr14a1J6x7f65cYTP+2vMACwRsxua0kztRgBbuTRDCSs8OSt4PUrx9gUcYS7xrNDFSBaJt+2U9BW9JOHCQxsXsAwPu69LTRSKh7/LJEHXaLKI/0FMAwzUng1AmXlwc6EEEOzujA8YkDLl/vVB+VG8d/pmCxM+YVYGQ= Received: by 10.38.179.77 with SMTP id b77mr1645135rnf; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 07:25:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.206.40 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 07:25:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 19:55:35 +0530 From: Subhro To: Volker Lieder In-Reply-To: <9F16980C-2669-11D9-8ED2-000D933AB0EA@plusline.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <9F16980C-2669-11D9-8ED2-000D933AB0EA@plusline.de> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MultiProcessor Kernel on HP ProLiant X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Subhro List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:25:36 -0000 On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:38:26 +0200, Volker Lieder wrote: > fails without a detailed error. We need to know whatever the kernel throws out to know why it had been complaining. > Has anybody the same problems on HP and Dual-Processeor-maschines? Yes a couple of SMP HP boxes under my administration runs 5.2.1-R Regards S. -- Subhro Sankha Kar School of Information Technology Block AQ-13/1 Sector V ZIP 700091 India From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 14:45:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 707CD16A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:45:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailgate.teledome.gr (mailgate.teledome.gr [213.142.128.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3578543D2F for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:45:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nvass@teledome.gr) Received: from [192.168.1.71] (helo=[192.168.1.71]) by mailgate.teledome.gr with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CM6Xd-0000MG-9x; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 18:13:49 +0300 From: Nikos Vassiliadis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Spades Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:48:00 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <057501c4ba7d$d65a7fb0$0300a8c0@astral> <20041025133443.GA6371@shark.localdomain> <064801c4ba99$169fcab0$0300a8c0@astral> In-Reply-To: <064801c4ba99$169fcab0$0300a8c0@astral> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200410251748.00620.nvass@teledome.gr> Subject: Re: ipfw flooding in /var/log/ipfw.log X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:45:29 -0000 On Monday 25 October 2004 16:46, Spades wrote: > error: > > # ipfw add 900 allow log all from any to any setup > ipfw: unknown argument ``setup'' setup is available only for TCP connections. So ipfw add allow log logamount 0 tcp from any to any setup would be the correct one. But this is hardly what you want to do, since it matches only the three-way handshake TCP does. The rest of the stream will be dropped if your last rule(65535) is the default one (deny ip from any to any) This will log every TCP connection setup, and let the rest of the stream flow: allow log logamount 0 tcp from any to any setup allow tcp from any to any BUT this is not a firewall setup. It's just a TCP connection logger. You should do a little reading about TCP/IP, in order to understand how to setup a firewall. Cheers, NikV > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sergey Zaharchenko" > To: "Spades" > Cc: > Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 9:34 PM > Subject: Re: ipfw flooding in /var/log/ipfw.log > On Mon, Oct 25, 2004 at 06:31:49PM +0800, > > Spades probably wrote: > > this is my ipfw.rule for now > > # ipfw add 900 allow log all from any to any > > > > > It will keep spitting this 2 lines as long i'm connected, how do i make > > it such as it will log only one instance? > > You might want to change the rule to > > # ipfw add 900 allow log all from any to any setup > ^^^^^ > which only logs the (attempts to) set up a connection (the initail SYN > packets). man ipfw has some interesting information on this. > > HTH, From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 14:52:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B3A616A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:52:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from grover.logicsquad.net (ppp48-214.lns1.adl2.internode.on.net [150.101.48.214]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 37DA143D3F for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:52:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from paulh@logicsquad.net) Received: (qmail 56091 invoked by uid 1000); 25 Oct 2004 14:52:23 -0000 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:22:23 +0930 From: "Paul A. Hoadley" To: h0444lp6 Message-ID: <20041025145223.GB45627@grover.logicsquad.net> References: <000001c4ba8a$306cdaf0$ffc2148d@kojo> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="vGgW1X5XWziG23Ko" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000001c4ba8a$306cdaf0$ffc2148d@kojo> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Creating CHM files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:52:26 -0000 --vGgW1X5XWziG23Ko Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Oct 25, 2004 at 08:00:10PM +0800, h0444lp6 wrote: > I am desperately searching for a tool to create CHM Help Files. The only HTML Help compiler that I know of is Microsoft's own: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=3D/library/en-us/htmlhelp= /html/hworiHTMLHelpStartPage.asp or: http://tinyurl.com/6ejdu > Does there exist an Open Source tool? Not that I know of. The Microsoft compiler is a free download, though. Naturally, it's a Windows application. Did you post to this list because you need to run it under FreeBSD? --=20 Paul. w http://logicsquad.net/ h http://paul.hoadley.name/ --vGgW1X5XWziG23Ko Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBfRMn730Z/jysbzIRAh57AJ0W6SLlslPxylJUFj9P7WmlLO+93wCeMBF6 5YRIUsdTR3fbheRHgaskIzM= =R0vO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --vGgW1X5XWziG23Ko-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 14:52:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 708F616A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:52:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.ohiordc.rr.com (ms-smtp-02-smtplb.ohiordc.rr.com [65.24.5.136]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8830343D45 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:52:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vkaul@ma.rr.com) Received: from gogobera.ma.rr.com (dhcp024-160-199-227.ma.rr.com [24.160.199.227])i9PEqfJl028958; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 10:52:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:52:01 -0500 To: TM4525@aol.com, questions@freebsd.org References: <1dd.2f054a5f.2eae5de2@aol.com> From: "Vijay Kaul" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1dd.2f054a5f.2eae5de2@aol.com> User-Agent: Opera M2/7.54 (Win32, build 3869) X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Liberal vs Conservative [Re: GPL vs BSD Licence] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:52:46 -0000 Forgive my etiquete, please. Since I'm certainly not answering any questions, I felt it appropriate to take this off of "questions." Is that good form, or have I put the proverbial foot in mouth? On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:47:14 -0400 (EDT), wrote: > In a message dated 10/25/04 4:21:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > amf@hobbit.neveragain.de writes: <-- big snip --> > The lack of foresight of the GPL is that, if Jupiter had no choice but > to > give away their work, then the work never would have been done, so even > people willing to pay for it wouldn't have it. > > The GPL vs BSD issue is like liberal vs conservative. I agree-ish. However, I would say that "conservative" implies (loosely) "remaining the same," which is to say, supporting institutions or traditions already in place. On the other hand, "liberal," in this case, would mean the opposite: unbound by tradition. (liberal also, of course, is anti-authoritarian) Both licences seem to be liberal, then, in that they break from traditional licencing. Look deeper, though, and you see that the BSD licence allows further development without restriction, while the GPL licence imposes its own tradition, as best it can, in perpetuity. > The liberal plaform > sounds > good and reasonable to those who don't understand the bigger picture. This was the comment to which I had to reply. I know the GPL/BSD argument has been had over and over again. Is GPL "free-er" or is BSD "free-er," etc. And, although I did bring it up, I'm sorry :P I must point out, though, that I always considered the BSD licence to be the most liberal available. Also, I find it insulting to think that by following a "liberal platform," I'm missing "the bigger picture." In fact, I feel that by following the *conservative* GPL licence, many are missing the "bigger picture:" if you attempt to exert any sort of authority over things (code, furniture, land, people) you will propigate the notion that authority over those things is an acceptable one. By truly relinquishing control over the things, you are allowing freedom, as an ideology and practice, to gain momentum--not to mention, being quite liberal. <-snip-> > > FreeBSD is a perfect example of a thriving project with BSD licensing. Is > FreeBSD > a "dead end"? Is the community worse off because companies like Cayote > Point > and > Emerging Technologies don't give the source to their products? No, > because > those > products never would have been created if they were hindered by the GPL. Absolutely. And maybe, after existing for decades and gaining more and more market share, and, therefore, economic value, these companies will decide that BSDing their code: is *not* financial suicide, will spur innovation, allows them to improve their product cheaply and quickly, improves securit, on & on, and so, they will. Instead of forcing the licence on these companies, as the GPL would've done, the BSD licence, and the success of BSD/Open Source projects, is simply showing the way. If that's not a liberal idea, what is? -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 14:55:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B82E16A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:55:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from virtual.micronet.sk (smtp-r.micronet.sk [213.215.96.238]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4741F43D39 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:54:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danger@wilbury.sk) Received: from danger ([213.215.105.189]) by virtual.micronet.sk (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i9PEsdjc014684 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:54:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from danger@wilbury.sk) Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:54:39 +0200 (CEST) Resent-Message-Id: <200410251454.i9PEsdjc014684@virtual.micronet.sk> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:56:27 +0200 From: DanGer X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.12.00) Business X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <909627692.20041025165627@wilbury.sk> To: questions@freebsd.org Resent-From: DanGer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 5.3-RELEASE time line X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: DanGer List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:55:00 -0000 Hello borg, Monday, October 25, 2004, 8:30:06 AM, you wrote: > Greatings, > I've noticed that 5.3-RC1 is in the ftp now. Maybe > there will be a 5.3-RC2 later on. Anyone knows when > roughly the 5.3-RELEASE will be available. I want to > wait for that. Just need an estimate date if anyone > knows. there won't be any rc2 anymore. in the cvs there is 5.3-release already. if you wait some time (hope tommorow, maybe today) there will be release build on ftp sites. > regards, -- Best regards +----------==/\/\==----------+ | DanGer | | DanGer@IRCnet ICQ261701668 | | http://danger.homeunix.org | +----------==\/\/==----------+ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 14:58:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4363216A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:58:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-m16.mx.aol.com (imo-m16.mx.aol.com [64.12.138.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBCD243D1D for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:58:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from TM4525@aol.com) Received: from TM4525@aol.com by imo-m16.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id n.29.64b6a44f (3924); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 10:58:39 -0400 (EDT) From: TM4525@aol.com Message-ID: <29.64b6a44f.2eae6e9f@aol.com> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 10:58:39 EDT To: JohnsoBS@vicksburg.navy.mil MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5114 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ifconfig alias: File Exists X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:58:54 -0000 In a message dated 10/24/04 11:18:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time, JohnsoBS@vicksburg.navy.mil writes: > >Is that new? You are right, that fixed it, but didn't think > I had to do > >that before :( > You get it because the guy who maintains ifconfig didn't have > the foresight > to realize the "alias" should imply a host mask, and also > that the guy who > coded the kernel code didn't think that assuming a host mask was > reasonable. > > Welcome to open source. Love it and live with it. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >To assume makes an ass out of u and me. Ok, that out of the way, the config >you assume should be coded into ifconfig and kernel is not 100% going to be >used all the time. In fact I have multiple nets and have multiple netmask >assigned on the one machine. If you actually READ "man ifconfig" it states >that this should be set to what you assume it should be. It helps when >people don't attack things they don't fully understand cause for many it >might be a person's first view at what you are bashing. Unfortunately also, >many people aren't smart enough to get a second opinion or to try beyond >there first try or someone person's like yourselfs comments. As for the "assume" thing, speak for yourself. Your implication that there should be no defaults is quite asinine. If it doesn't work with no netmask specified, then its broken. Its not unreasonable to assume that if no netmask is provided, then a host mask (for an alias) is intended. In the absence of a netmask, the only "assumption" thats reasonable is a host mask. There are lots of "assumptions" made by ifconfig. It "assumes" that you only want the interface to have one address (as if you submit an address to an interface that already has one it explicitly deletes the other). Its not unreasonable to assume that, nor would it be unreasonable to assume that the intention was to add an alias. It would certainly be safer. And I "understand" it a lot better than you do. In today's world, "assuming" the natural mask (which is what ifconfig has done since the beginning of time) is wrong most of the time. Just because someone back in the 1970s decided to do it that way doesn't make it correct. One of the basic properties of a default setting is that it should work. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 14:59:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44A5516A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:59:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from trinity.icrt.cu (trinity.icrt.cu [200.55.140.115]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE16043D39 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:59:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from texel@trinity.icrt.cu) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost.icrt.cu [127.0.0.1]) by trinity.icrt.cu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9PExJ74054001 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 10:59:20 -0400 (CDT) (envelope-from texel@trinity.icrt.cu) Message-ID: <417D14C7.5080601@trinity.icrt.cu> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 10:59:19 -0400 From: "Carlos A. Carnero Delgado" Organization: Instituto Cubano de Radio y Television User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040922 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000308050500000609080402" Subject: FYI: Time zone information update for Cuba X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:59:31 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000308050500000609080402 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, the attached diff updates /usr/src/share/zoneinfo/northamerica for this year's unique time handling in Cuba. BTW, who is the maintainer of the package that FreeBSD draws this information from? I'd like to send this so that other OSes can have the update. Best regards, Carlos. --------------000308050500000609080402 Content-Type: text/plain; name="Cuba-update.diff" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Cuba-update.diff" --- /usr/src/share/zoneinfo/northamerica Tue Oct 14 17:03:22 2003 +++ northamerica Mon Oct 25 10:46:06 2004 @@ -1733,8 +1733,10 @@ Rule Cuba 1996 only - Oct 6 0:00s 0 S Rule Cuba 1997 only - Oct 12 0:00s 0 S Rule Cuba 1998 1999 - Mar lastSun 0:00s 1:00 D -Rule Cuba 1998 max - Oct lastSun 0:00s 0 S -Rule Cuba 2000 max - Apr Sun>=1 0:00s 1:00 D +Rule Cuba 1998 2003 - Oct lastSun 0:00s 0 S +Rule Cuba 2000 2004 - Apr Sun>=1 0:00s 1:00 D +Rule Cuba 2004 max - Mar lastSun 0:00s 1:00 D +Rule Cuba 2005 max - Oct lastSun 0:00s 0 S # Zone NAME GMTOFF RULES FORMAT [UNTIL] Zone America/Havana -5:29:28 - LMT 1890 --------------000308050500000609080402-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 15:15:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C76D116A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:15:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-m20.mx.aol.com (imo-m20.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7237F43D2F for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:15:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from TM4525@aol.com) Received: from TM4525@aol.com by imo-m20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id n.8e.18645afb (3964) for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:15:01 -0400 (EDT) From: TM4525@aol.com Message-ID: <8e.18645afb.2eae7275@aol.com> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:15:01 EDT To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5114 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Re: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:15:13 -0000 In a message dated 10/24/04 5:54:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time, tedm@toybox.placo.com writes: > I know more than a > few people, > small businessmen mostly, who have been completely screwed because their > almost > totally incompetent unix tech guy left the company. > Ted wrote... >For every small businessman screwed over this way there are ten times >the number who have been screwed over by incompetent Windows tech guys. The point, Ted, is that you can easily find another "incompetent" windows tech, or even a good one to bail you out. With unix you're just screwed. >Windows today is just as complex as any UNIX system. Sure, maybe >a decade ago a peer-to-peer network of Windows systems your >statement might have been true, but not today. You're also missing my point on this. You don't have to get into the guts of windows to make it work. You dont have to be a programmer to tweak all of the applications, in fact I know more than one "windows tech" who knows how to set things up but really has no idea what the settings mean. Yes you have to understand the applications to some degree. But to me, its a different level of skill to install and maintain applications in a unix-like environment. There's also less documentation, fewer resources, etc. So its more difficult to be proficient in unix than in windows. Ask a unix tech to install a windows application, or ask a windows tech to install a unix application. Which do you think has a better chance of success? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 15:20:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 641D716A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:20:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.u4eatech.com (blackhole.u4eatech.com [195.188.241.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8175543D41 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:20:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from richard.williamson@u4eatech.com) Received: by mail.u4eatech.com (Postfix, from userid 503) id C524F36011B; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:20:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from [172.30.40.201] (mir.degree2.com [172.30.40.201]) by mail.u4eatech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59F4E36010B for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:20:15 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <417D18DF.1040607@u4eatech.com> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:16:47 +0100 From: Richard Williamson User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (X11/20041020) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on mail X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 Subject: odd warning message from gcc under FreeBSD 4.10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:20:21 -0000 Hello, Is this something known about, or: What am I missing? TIA, rip PROBLEM: man strstr says: returns char * test code throws warning on line 7: test.c:7: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer \ without a cast TEST CODE int main (int argc, void ** argv) { char *pBlah = 0x0; char rudolph[64] = "Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer"; char red[4] = "Red"; pBlah = strstr(rudolph, red); printf("1: %s\n", rudolph); printf("2: %s\n", red); printf("3: %s\n", pBlah); } TEST COMPILE (linux) bash-2.05b# gcc -o test test.c bash-2.05b# uname -a Linux mir 2.6.8-gentoo-r7 #1 Mon Oct 11 14:18:22 BST 2004 \ i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux bash-2.05b# ./test 1: Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer 2: Red 3: Red Nosed Reindeer bash-2.05b# TEST COMPILE (FreeBSD) venus 17:11 [~/cassess2] rip>gcc -o test test.c test.c: In function `main': test.c:7: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer \ without a cast venus 17:11 [~/cassess2] rip>uname -a FreeBSD venus.degree2.com 4.10-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.10-RELEASE #0: \ Tue May 25 22:47:12 GMT 2004 root@perseus.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 venus 17:12 [~/cassess2] rip>./test 1: Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer 2: Red 3: Red Nosed Reindeer venus 17:12 [~/cassess2] rip> From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 15:20:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3798E16A4E7 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:20:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-04-eri0.ohiordc.rr.com (ms-smtp-04-smtplb.ohiordc.rr.com [65.24.5.138]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0DBD43D49 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:20:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vkaul@ma.rr.com) Received: from gogobera.ma.rr.com (dhcp024-160-199-227.ma.rr.com [24.160.199.227])i9PFKKHH025409; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:20:20 -0400 (EDT) To: "Vijay Kaul" , TM4525@aol.com, questions@freebsd.org References: <1dd.2f054a5f.2eae5de2@aol.com> Message-ID: From: "Vijay Kaul" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 10:19:39 -0500 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera M2/7.54 (Win32, build 3869) X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: Liberal vs Conservative [Re: GPL vs BSD Licence] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:20:27 -0000 On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:52:01 -0500, Vijay Kaul wrote: > Forgive my etiquete, please. Since I'm certainly not answering any > questions, I felt it appropriate to take this off of "questions." Is > that good form, or have I put the proverbial foot in mouth? Ha!!! And then, truly puting said foot in mouth, I post to questions anyway! Take that! (oops.) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 15:20:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 197C116A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:20:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dnsmail3.ior.navy.mil (nocb.ior.navy.mil [205.56.210.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9782A43D55 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:20:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from JohnsoBS@vicksburg.navy.mil) Received: from cg69ubd01.vicksburg.navy.mil ([205.95.65.21]) i9PFIG5v020187; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:18:21 GMT Received: by CG69UBD01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 18:23:34 +0300 Message-ID: From: JohnsoBS@vicksburg.navy.mil To: TM4525@aol.com, JohnsoBS@vicksburg.navy.mil Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 18:23:33 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: ifconfig alias: File Exists X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:20:43 -0000 -----Original Message----- From: TM4525@aol.com [mailto:TM4525@aol.com] Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 4:59 PM To: JohnsoBS@vicksburg.navy.mil Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ifconfig alias: File Exists In a message dated 10/24/04 11:18:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time, JohnsoBS@vicksburg.navy.mil writes: > >Is that new? You are right, that fixed it, but didn't think > I had to do > >that before :( > You get it because the guy who maintains ifconfig didn't have > the foresight > to realize the "alias" should imply a host mask, and also > that the guy who > coded the kernel code didn't think that assuming a host mask was > reasonable. > > Welcome to open source. Love it and live with it. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >To assume makes an ass out of u and me. Ok, that out of the way, the config >you assume should be coded into ifconfig and kernel is not 100% going to be >used all the time. In fact I have multiple nets and have multiple netmask >assigned on the one machine. If you actually READ "man ifconfig" it states >that this should be set to what you assume it should be. It helps when >people don't attack things they don't fully understand cause for many it >might be a person's first view at what you are bashing. Unfortunately also, >many people aren't smart enough to get a second opinion or to try beyond >there first try or someone person's like yourselfs comments. As for the "assume" thing, speak for yourself. Your implication that there should be no defaults is quite asinine. If it doesn't work with no netmask specified, then its broken. Its not unreasonable to assume that if no netmask is provided, then a host mask (for an alias) is intended. In the absence of a netmask, the only "assumption" thats reasonable is a host mask. There are lots of "assumptions" made by ifconfig. It "assumes" that you only want the interface to have one address (as if you submit an address to an interface that already has one it explicitly deletes the other). Its not unreasonable to assume that, nor would it be unreasonable to assume that the intention was to add an alias. It would certainly be safer. And I "understand" it a lot better than you do. In today's world, "assuming" the natural mask (which is what ifconfig has done since the beginning of time) is wrong most of the time. Just because someone back in the 1970s decided to do it that way doesn't make it correct. One of the basic properties of a default setting is that it should work I find it very wrong to assume anything on a network interface. Assumptions on anything that could open up a security hole are very dangerous. ifconfig has a far greater ability than many things to open up security wholes that may get around an improperly setup firewall. I agree that some assumptions can easily be made and should be but not here. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 15:41:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1FC716A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:41:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.87]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9EC943D66 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:41:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin08-en2 [10.13.10.153]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id i9PFfueR002097; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 08:41:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.1.1.245] (nfw2.codefab.com [199.103.21.225] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0)i9PFftNG001414; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 08:41:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <417D18DF.1040607@u4eatech.com> References: <417D18DF.1040607@u4eatech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <65CE1486-269C-11D9-9067-003065ABFD92@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:41:54 -0400 To: Richard Williamson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: odd warning message from gcc under FreeBSD 4.10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:41:57 -0000 On Oct 25, 2004, at 11:16 AM, Richard Williamson wrote: > Is this something known about, or: What am I missing? > > TIA, > rip > > PROBLEM: > > man strstr says: returns char * > test code throws warning on line 7: > test.c:7: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer \ > without a cast [ ...see previous message in thread for example C program... ] Using -Wall will help clarify the situation for you: 6-ns1% cc -Wall -o red red.c red.c:2: warning: second argument of `main' should be `char **' red.c: In function `main': red.c:7: warning: implicit declaration of function `strstr' red.c:7: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast red.c:9: warning: implicit declaration of function `printf' red.c:12: warning: control reaches end of non-void function In other words, you ought to add: #include #include ...to the top of your sample program so that the prototypes for strstr() and printf() are known. Otherwise, the compiler guesses that the return value for an unknown function is an int, or will fit into one. On platforms where sizeof(int) == sizeof(void *), your code will work fine. On platforms where that is not the case-- such as the so-called "LP64" architectures-- such code will break. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 15:47:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BC4416A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:47:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B9EF43D2F for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:47:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nomadlogic@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 79so357149rnk for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 08:47:28 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=PA5sN43gUg6PaucLcQ/5Ipa0UinDrBQbdVLEiyTVIWpluQL/4hBJdC6DUY8OyL+iWVmjcJspRiMfu7bUTIKeHTAfXEwUUAkgkXp0wDZaTmaC0gYC2HOO+VQlHc4i+Qjf1BIyP+VjMYi+wX+NP2WAthXIFuflS9h0idt8kXfTtcs= Received: by 10.39.2.27 with SMTP id e27mr1140839rni; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 08:47:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.14.69 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 08:47:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <57d7100004102508476539890e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 08:47:28 -0700 From: pete wright To: "tm4525@aol.com" In-Reply-To: <8e.18645afb.2eae7275@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <8e.18645afb.2eae7275@aol.com> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: pete wright List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:47:32 -0000 > There's also less documentation, fewer resources, etc. So its more difficult > to be proficient in unix than in windows. > what are you talking about "less documentation" for Unix?!? What "Unix" are you referring to...Solaris...HPUX..AIX...BSD? I'm sorry to bite on this flame bait but i've been tracking your posts for some time now and I really don't understand where you get these ideas from? -p From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 15:51:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 990F016A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:51:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.sbfnet.com (mail.sbfnet.com [12.18.252.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25F2243D1F for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:51:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keving@sbfnet.com) Received: from administrator ([90.1.2.37]) by mail.sbfnet.com (SBF Mail Services) with SMTP id AAE74724 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 08:51:36 -0700 From: "Kevin Glick" To: "'FreeBSD Questions'" Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 08:51:33 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 thread-index: AcS6qoAeZ+DX2dh4RxW/IvP+GPyUEQ== X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.89 required=3.00 tests=BAYES_00,NO_RDNS2 version=2.61 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.61 (1.2.2) on mail.sbfnet.com Message-Id: <20041025155137.25F2243D1F@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Subject: ODBC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:51:37 -0000 I'm hoping somebody else has done this, and can point me in the right direction. The company I work for has an NCR Unix machine that runs some COBOL applications, and stores the information in a database that they refer to as "vision files" (I'm not familiar with that at all). We have a Windows PC that is used for shipping, with an ODBC link to the NCR. The software used for that connection is AcuODBC. We're going to be putting a web server together soon, and I'd like to use FreeBSD instead of Windows Server. My question is, does anybody know if there is an ODBC driver for FreeBSD to connect to whatever database type COBOL/vision uses? The website will be written in PHP, if that helps. Kevin Glick ITS Manager Sterling Business Forms keving@sbfnet.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 15:54:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52A0116A4CF for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:54:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from codegurus.org (cpc2-stoc7-3-0-cust147.midd.cable.ntl.com [81.104.76.147]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B93C43D31 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:54:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mwalker@codegurus.org) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (codegurus.org [192.168.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by codegurus.org (8.13.1/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9PFt04b045007 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:55:02 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mwalker@codegurus.org) From: Mick Walker To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <1098719698.29499.2.camel@codegurus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:54:58 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Gnome 2.8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:54:33 -0000 Will Gnome 2.8 be shipping with 5.3-R? -- Mick Walker From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 16:10:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81D8216A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:10:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (hobbiton.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36BCE43D3F for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:10:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.161.247.57] (helo=[192.168.99.66]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.43) id 1CM7Qa-0000LN-Q0; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 10:10:37 -0600 In-Reply-To: <8e.18645afb.2eae7275@aol.com> References: <8e.18645afb.2eae7275@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Message-Id: <65A37B5C-26A0-11D9-9795-003065A70D30@shire.net> From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 10:10:32 -0600 To: TM4525@aol.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.161.247.57 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.0 (2004-09-13) on hobbiton.shire.net X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_40 autolearn=disabled version=3.0.0 X-Spam-Level: X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.1+cvs (built Mon, 23 Aug 2004 08:44:05 -0700) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on hobbiton.shire.net) cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:10:38 -0000 On Oct 25, 2004, at 9:15 AM, TM4525@aol.com wrote: > Ask a unix tech to install a windows application, or ask a windows > tech to > install > a unix application. Which do you think has a better chance of success? > The unix tech will have much more easier time installing the Windows app than the other way around. For one reason: the unix tech is likely to understand what he is doing so he can transpose that knowledge. The Windows tech hasn't a clue Chad From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 16:11:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C43DC16A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:11:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail-relay4.mirrorimage.net (mail-relay4.mirrorimage.net [209.58.140.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADDF743D49 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:11:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@keyslapper.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [10.10.4.59]) by mail-relay4.mirrorimage.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 1167C69282 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:11:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by localhost (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:14:03 -0400 Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:14:03 -0400 From: Louis LeBlanc To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20041025161403.GB57087@keyslapper.org> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: moving to 5.3 and need help understanding firewalls X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:11:11 -0000 Hey all. I'm getting ready (again) to set up my new system with 5.3 RELEASE the moment the ISOs are published. One thing I need to understand better is the current firewall tool, and how to get my 4.10 firewall moved over from ipfw to pf. Seems there will be a few issues to work out. Another thing I want to work through is the issue of these hack attempts that everyone has been seeing from Asian (and a few Canadian) networks. Most of these attempts work with just the basic accounts, like root, guest, test, etc., but recently I've seen a few attempt accounts like nobody, www, operator, and a few userids like oracle, sybase, patrick john, pamela, backup, etc. This looks like a trend toward finding access through an unprivileged account. I only have a single account that should be able to log in remotely, but I don't want to provide any chances to find it (or one that I missed) and break the PW. A while back, someone named Chris provided the following snippet: ${fwcmd} add 090 pass log tcp from 123.123.123.123/xx to ${ip} 22 setup limit src-addr 4 I found this pretty interesting, but haven't been able to understand it that well. I assumed it was a way to shut an IP out if it failed to complete a login successfully 4 times, but I can't see how this works, so I'm pretty sure I don't understand it correctly. Is this maybe a limit on the concurrent setup requests from a given IP? I had thought about this one a bit though, and figured that it would be a simple translation to the external network: ${fwcmd} add pass log tcp from any to ${ip} 22 setup limit src-addr 4 But I never put it in because I don't understand exactly what it will do. The ipfw manpage is well written, but I kinda need an idiots guide to bridge whatever intellectual gap I'm running into. Any pointers to said "idiots guide" would be appreciated. Any newbie level explaination of the above snippet would be just as appreciated, as would any pointer to any "conversion howto" for the move to pf. TIA. Lou -- Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org ÔżÔ¬ Green's Law of Debate: Anything is possible if you don't know what you're talking about. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 16:24:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3C3C16A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:24:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from edenpr.k12.mn.us (s234-26.edenpr.k12.mn.us [198.174.26.234]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09F8C43D1F for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:24:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jstuart@edenpr.k12.mn.us) Received: from EPS_MAIL-MTA by edenpr.k12.mn.us with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:24:12 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.2 Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:23:58 -0500 From: "Joe Stuart" To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: remote login problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:24:14 -0000 I just did a fresh install of freebsd 4.10. Now there is a remote login limit that is set to 32. I have changed these two options in the kernel conf and still it does not seem to change. maxusers 96 pseudo-device pty 64 When I try to login using ssh I get this error message. Server refused to allocate pty I was sure that the pseudo-device option in the kernel would fix it. Does anyone else have any suggestions? Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 16:25:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEF1516A4CF for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:25:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5507743D5D for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:25:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from TM4525@aol.com) Received: from TM4525@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id o.96.186ca920 (3924); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:25:22 -0400 (EDT) From: TM4525@aol.com Message-ID: <96.186ca920.2eae82f1@aol.com> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:25:21 EDT To: nomadlogic@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5114 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:25:30 -0000 In a message dated 10/25/04 11:48:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time, nomadlogic@gmail.com writes: > There's also less documentation, fewer resources, etc. So its more difficult > to be proficient in unix than in windows. > >what are you talking about "less documentation" for Unix?!? What >"Unix" are you referring to...Solaris...HPUX..AIX...BSD? I'm sorry to >bite on this flame bait but i've been tracking your posts for some >time now and I really don't understand where you get these ideas from? Let's see. The mailing list is "freebsd-questions". Hmmm. I wonder. Perhaps the word "logic" in your domain name needs tweaking? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 16:26:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BBAA16A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:26:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ramstind.gtf.ol.no (ramstind.gtf.ol.no [128.39.174.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79CDD43D49 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:26:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from trond@ramstind.gtf.ol.no) Received: from ramstind.gtf.ol.no (Ximalas@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ramstind.gtf.ol.no (8.12.9/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i9PGQn29073211 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 18:26:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@ramstind.gtf.ol.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost)i9PGQn9E073208 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 18:26:49 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 18:26:49 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= To: FreeBSD questions Message-ID: <20041025181945.T72388@ramstind.gtf.ol.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Subject: portmap forks a multitude of child processes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:26:52 -0000 After portmap has been launched on my 4.10-RELEASE system, it creates a multitude of child processes when mountd or ypserv is being launched. Does someone know what might be the problem? I haven't given you much detail about my setup, but I'm happy to supply whatever information you might need. Please cc me as I'm not regularly subscribed to this list, this message might even bounce due to my lack of subscription. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Trond Endrestřl | trond@ramstind.gtf.ol.no Patron of The Art of Computer Programming| FreeBSD 4.8-S & Pine 4.55 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 16:33:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37DEB16A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:33:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from oim.prov.ru (host194.131.prov.ru [195.225.131.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4513F43D49 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:33:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@oim.prov.ru) Received: (qmail 7366 invoked by uid 0); 25 Oct 2004 20:32:42 -0000 From: oim Organization: OIM Inc To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:32:41 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410252032.41949.oim37@mail.ru> Subject: IP to IP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: oim37@mail.ru List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:33:44 -0000 Hello! Problem: I want to redirect ip 205.188.179.233 to my server 195.225.131.194 where all packets sending to 195.225.131.194 on port 5190 redirected to 205.188.179.233 and away. OS: FreeBSD 5.1 I want that users connect to ICQ server through 195.225.131.194 (my Server) . Thank you very much. With best regard oim37@mail.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 16:37:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8176C16A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:37:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [195.170.0.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1EE043D1F for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:37:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226])i9PGaouf001555; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 19:37:03 +0300 Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (orion [127.0.0.1]) i9PGaicX001325; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 19:36:44 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost)i9PGaej9001324; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 19:36:40 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 19:36:40 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: TM4525@aol.com Message-ID: <20041025163640.GA1244@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <8e.18645afb.2eae7275@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8e.18645afb.2eae7275@aol.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:37:30 -0000 On 2004-10-25 11:15, TM4525@aol.com wrote: > You're also missing my point on this. You don't have to get into the guts > of windows to make it work. You dont have to be a programmer to tweak all of > the applications, in fact I know more than one "windows tech" who knows how > to set things up but really has no idea what the settings mean. This is not really an advantage though, if you ponder a bit the implications it has. It basically means that your average "Windows tech" knows nothing about the guts of the system (he doesn't need to, according to your description). Then, when a day comes that something breaks *badly* his best suggestion is "throw away the entire thing, and start over with a bootable CD-ROM of Windows XYZ". This sort of "tech"-ness is considered dangerous in the UNIX world. > Yes you have to understand the applications to some degree. But to me, its a > different level of skill to install and maintain applications in a unix-like > environment. Agreed. > There's also less documentation, fewer resources, etc. So its more difficult > to be proficient in unix than in windows. "Au contraire, mon ami." I have always felt extreme frustration and angst at the lack of documentation for Windows services, programs, procedures and everything else but the very basic skills of clicking a mouse and moving around its pointer. The documentation for UNIX systems like Linux and the various open-source implementations of BSD has always amazed me. If you have ever tried debugging a Windows installation that crashes part-way through, about the same time the monitor displays a cute window with colourful borders, carefully crafted GUI components and other useless trivia surrounding a most-cryptic message like "Updating system files" you know what I'm talking about. The documentation and level of open-ness that a Windows system has in cases like this is exactly zero, nil, zip, nada, not-existent. No matter how experienced Windows or UNIX user you are, there is absolutely no documentation on debugging the installation process -- mostly because the majority of Windows programs have their own custom "wizard-based" installation. On the other hand, UNIX programs that run on Linux or BSD are usually built from source, have manpages, info manuals, README or INSTALL files that describe step by step the installation, configuration and running of the program, and a lot of other documentation material that I probably forget about right now. > Ask a unix tech to install a windows application, or ask a windows tech to > install a unix application. Which do you think has a better chance of > success? Generally, the UNIX technician. Not because he knows a lot more about all things related to computers and will instantly adapt to the Windows environment because of some "magical" UNIX-foo he possesses, but because the average Windows tech will run away screaming when he's confronted with a UNIX terminal and a shell prompt ;-) - Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 16:39:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E307F16A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:39:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9091643D46 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:39:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nomadlogic@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 79so367351rnk for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:39:19 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=qrYD1B1MTZ622QsXHDrE37p3+5IEZSncZEkoaDuwFc/V3UvpX+J0mO429DEKKmqHMuV18SZ/Q8CDnzmybSOrk0RJGGhvN58M2dzkva54752qSxSVSNwQECUbCedJdngga1D7bQOCyVm9N+Lq6G0RvinE0NzTeS4H/lU57tA/lc8= Received: by 10.38.66.24 with SMTP id o24mr1173378rna; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:39:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.14.69 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:39:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <57d7100004102509396fb77579@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:39:18 -0700 From: pete wright To: "tm4525@aol.com" In-Reply-To: <96.186ca920.2eae82f1@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <96.186ca920.2eae82f1@aol.com> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: pete wright List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:39:22 -0000 On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:25:21 EDT, tm4525@aol.com wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 10/25/04 11:48:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > nomadlogic@gmail.com writes: > > There's also less documentation, fewer resources, etc. So its more > difficult > > to be proficient in unix than in windows. > > > >what are you talking about "less documentation" for Unix?!? What > >"Unix" are you referring to...Solaris...HPUX..AIX...BSD? I'm sorry to > >bite on this flame bait but i've been tracking your posts for some > >time now and I really don't understand where you get these ideas from? > Let's see. The mailing list is "freebsd-questions". Hmmm. I wonder. > > Perhaps the word "logic" in your domain name needs tweaking? > > OK aside from personal attacks, I'm still confused as to where you derived the fact that "Unix" (which I suppose you do not mean as the generic term for a type of multiuser operating system, but infact BSD which is not technically UNIX) has less documentation than Windows. I can't remember the last time I typed: > man net on anything like that on a win box. Now I would grant that Microsoft *does* have the MSCE mill....now I'm not sure if that would equate them documenting thier products.... -p > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 16:42:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB3D416A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:42:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30D4D43D31 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:42:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id i9PGg4v24177; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:42:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200410251642.i9PGg4v24177@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: TM4525@aol.com Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:42:03 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <96.186ca920.2eae82f1@aol.com> from "TM4525@aol.com" at Oct 25, 2004 12:25:21 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: nomadlogic@gmail.com cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:42:15 -0000 > > In a message dated 10/25/04 11:48:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > nomadlogic@gmail.com writes: > > There's also less documentation, fewer resources, etc. So its more difficult > > to be proficient in unix than in windows. > > > >what are you talking about "less documentation" for Unix?!? What > >"Unix" are you referring to...Solaris...HPUX..AIX...BSD? I'm sorry to > >bite on this flame bait but i've been tracking your posts for some > >time now and I really don't understand where you get these ideas from? > Let's see. The mailing list is "freebsd-questions". Hmmm. I wonder. > > Perhaps the word "logic" in your domain name needs tweaking? Sounding really like a troll now. Personal attacks are not welcome. In general, I find UNIX of almost any variety to be better documented that MS and such open source systems as FreeBSD suplement documentation by making the source fully available to the user to examine. ////jerry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 16:43:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46BCF16A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:43:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.tsgincorporated.com (ns1.tsgincorporated.com [67.66.242.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA84043D54 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:43:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micheal@tsgincorporated.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.tsgincorporated.com [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1.tsgincorporated.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2989B3A7435; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:43:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from smtp1.tsgincorporated.com ([127.0.0.1])port 10024) with ESMTP id 10897-01; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:43:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from smtp3.tsgincorporated.com (support.tsgincorporated.com [67.66.242.9]) by smtp1.tsgincorporated.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E4DC3A7431; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:43:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from micheal (micheal.tsgincorporated.com [67.66.242.77]) by smtp3.tsgincorporated.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 74A2F62896; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:43:35 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <056501c4bab1$c72d9ed0$4df24243@tsgincorporated.com> From: "Micheal Patterson" To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" , , References: Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:43:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at tsgincorporated.com cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:43:40 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: ; Cc: Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 4:54 AM Subject: RE: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows > > There > > are more people around that can administer MS systems than unix, > > Yes, > > > and it can > > be done with a lower level of talent. . > > Having seen and dealing with the aftermath of networks owned by > people that thought that, I have to state your out of your gourd. > > Windows today is just as complex as any UNIX system. Sure, maybe > a decade ago a peer-to-peer network of Windows systems your > statement might have been true, but not today. > This type of discussion has been going around the world since Windows and *Nix first clashed. Windows has a gui, *Nix by default on most OS's, doesn't. To configure Windows, you point here, click there, right click and check properties here, add this information in the line provided. Click apply and the program runs and yet there are those that feel it is more complex than *Nix. I'll tell you what. You take any MS certified, high end admin, that's never seen a *Nix OS and see how far he gets. Just tell him to setup ftp with chroot environment, or bind, or heaven forbid Sendmail with rbl, access, virtual aliasing, etc. If he's never seen it, it'll take him forever. To those that live in the *Nix world, we can generally walk up to a Windows DC and make it do what we want. Do you really think that MS was the first to come up with MS Shares? What about AD User propogation to other DC's? DNS? Or even Mail? Where do you think they got those ideas from? Honestly, what makes you think that Windows is more complex in it's administration than a *Nix system? It's common knowledge that Windows is "easier" to manage. That's one of it's selling points and it always has been. "Windows is now easier than ever, just point and click". Tell me how many times have you heard someone say that about any *Nix OS currently available? The human race as a whole, is always looking for something to make doing something easier for them. That's what drives our desire to contstantly design new technology. o Man walked everywhere then he realized, riding a horse was faster and easier than walking 3 hours. o They designed a saddle for the horse because it was easier on the ass than barebacking it. o They designed a car because it was easier than riding a horse and thought to be faster in it's infancy. o Cars were made faster as the years went along because we wanted to get there faster. o The airplane was designed because people wanted to leave the ground and fly to wherever they wanted to go. o Helicopters were made because it's easier to land in a field with no landing strip than to build the runway for a plane. o Computers were made because people got headaches doing complex calculations and wanted something that could do it for them and do it faster as well. and so on and so forth. The human race, as a whole, is lazy and always looking for something to make their lives easier. In this day and age of computer technology, MS provides that to us better than *Nix does. Yet, there are those that are adamant that Windows is more complex than *Nix is. How ironic. > Ted > -- Micheal Patterson Senior Communications Systems Engineer 405-917-0600 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 16:49:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C33D616A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:49:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.chrononomicon.com (chrononomicon.com [216.37.143.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DF3843D4C for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:49:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [192.168.0.42]) by mail.chrononomicon.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E9EA1763BA; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:49:36 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <20041025163640.GA1244@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <8e.18645afb.2eae7275@aol.com> <20041025163640.GA1244@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:49:37 -0400 To: Giorgos Keramidas X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) cc: FreeBSD Question List Subject: Re: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:49:38 -0000 On Oct 25, 2004, at 12:36 PM, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2004-10-25 11:15, TM4525@aol.com wrote: >> You're also missing my point on this. You don't have to get into the >> guts >> of windows to make it work. You dont have to be a programmer to tweak >> all of >> the applications, in fact I know more than one "windows tech" who >> knows how >> to set things up but really has no idea what the settings mean. > > This is not really an advantage though, if you ponder a bit the > implications > it has. It basically means that your average "Windows tech" knows > nothing > about the guts of the system (he doesn't need to, according to your > description). Then, when a day comes that something breaks *badly* > his best > suggestion is "throw away the entire thing, and start over with a > bootable > CD-ROM of Windows XYZ". And this differs from your experience in the Windows world...how? :-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 17:06:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43B0216A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:06:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-02-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 781B543D46 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:06:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gonesurfing@nc.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.0.3] (rdu26-67-196.nc.rr.com [66.26.67.196]) i9PH6c4R000262 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:06:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <417D32A0.7090807@nc.rr.com> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:06:40 -0400 From: Eric Thornton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (X11/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: refreshing /dev direcotry to show CD tracks X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:06:42 -0000 Can't seem to find this info in man page, or elsewhere. I'm trying to figure out how to update the /dev directory after inserting a CD to show the CD's tracks. The /dev direcotry does list the CD tracks (/dev/acd0t01...02...) but only after i try to access the disk erroneously through mount /cdrom. I have a shell script that can dump the tracks once they've appeared, but my script dies when the filenames arent present. Is there a command that will "refresh" the direcory after CD is inserted? Thanks Eric From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 17:08:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3191416A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:08:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CE5543D5F for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:08:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226])i9PH7Sgb003722; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:07:48 +0300 Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (orion [127.0.0.1]) i9PH79vQ001662; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:07:14 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost)i9PH70ka001657; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:07:00 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:07:00 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Bart Silverstrim Message-ID: <20041025170700.GA1638@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <8e.18645afb.2eae7275@aol.com> <20041025163640.GA1244@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:08:08 -0000 On 2004-10-25 12:49, Bart Silverstrim wrote: >On Oct 25, 2004, at 12:36 PM, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >>On 2004-10-25 11:15, TM4525@aol.com wrote: >>> You're also missing my point on this. You don't have to get into >>> the guts of windows to make it work. You dont have to be a >>> programmer to tweak all of the applications, in fact I know more >>> than one "windows tech" who knows how to set things up but really >>> has no idea what the settings mean. >> >> This is not really an advantage though, if you ponder a bit the >> implications it has. It basically means that your average "Windows >> tech" knows nothing about the guts of the system (he doesn't need to, >> according to your description). Then, when a day comes that >> something breaks *badly* his best suggestion is "throw away the >> entire thing, and start over with a bootable CD-ROM of Windows XYZ". > > And this differs from your experience in the Windows world...how? :-) I'm not sure I understand your question. Rephrase or make it more specific, because answering to such a vague question is pointless. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 17:18:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86A6F16A4CF for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:18:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.chrononomicon.com (chrononomicon.com [216.37.143.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BAF643D3F for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:18:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [192.168.0.42]) by mail.chrononomicon.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E48517648C; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:18:43 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <20041025170700.GA1638@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <8e.18645afb.2eae7275@aol.com> <20041025163640.GA1244@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <20041025170700.GA1638@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:18:42 -0400 To: Giorgos Keramidas X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:18:45 -0000 On Oct 25, 2004, at 1:07 PM, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >>> >> >> And this differs from your experience in the Windows world...how? :-) > > I'm not sure I understand your question. Rephrase or make it more > specific, because answering to such a vague question is pointless. Just a side comment from the peanut gallery... I was referring to the fact that in most cases, the solution in the end most often IS to just reformat and reinstall because there's so much cruft/crap/crud in the registry and Windows directories that that is the best solution, unless you want to spend an extra couple days trying to sort everything out. -Bart From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 17:20:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD81B16A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:20:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-m27.mx.aol.com (imo-m27.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50A1543D2F for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:20:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from TM4525@aol.com) Received: from TM4525@aol.com by imo-m27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id v.e5.497e30a (3866); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:20:31 -0400 (EDT) From: TM4525@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:20:30 EDT To: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5114 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:20:45 -0000 In a message dated 10/25/04 1:08:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, keramida@ceid.upatras.gr writes: >> And this differs from your experience in the Windows world...how? :-) >I'm not sure I understand your question. Rephrase or make it more >specific, because answering to such a vague question is pointless. The inability of people to stay on point is as befuddling as it is entertaining. I think we all agree that you wouldn't let a windows tech touch your unix-like box, but you'd have no problem having a unix tech install a windows application. 'nuf said. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 17:34:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 877C416A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:34:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [195.170.0.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C390743D48 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:34:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226])i9PHXvLF018829; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:34:09 +0300 Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (orion [127.0.0.1]) i9PHXsDt001914; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:33:54 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost)i9PHXeB4001905; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:33:40 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:33:40 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Bart Silverstrim Message-ID: <20041025173340.GA1859@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <8e.18645afb.2eae7275@aol.com> <20041025163640.GA1244@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <20041025170700.GA1638@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:34:30 -0000 On 2004-10-25 13:18, Bart Silverstrim wrote: >On Oct 25, 2004, at 1:07 PM, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >>On 2004-10-25 12:49, Bart Silverstrim wrote: >>>On Oct 25, 2004, at 12:36 PM, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >>>>On 2004-10-25 11:15, TM4525@aol.com wrote: >>>>> You're also missing my point on this. You don't have to get into >>>>> the guts of windows to make it work. You dont have to be a >>>>> programmer to tweak all of the applications, in fact I know more >>>>> than one "windows tech" who knows how to set things up but really >>>>> has no idea what the settings mean. >>>> >>>> This is not really an advantage though, if you ponder a bit the >>>> implications it has. It basically means that your average "Windows >>>> tech" knows nothing about the guts of the system (he doesn't need to, >>>> according to your description). Then, when a day comes that >>>> something breaks *badly* his best suggestion is "throw away the >>>> entire thing, and start over with a bootable CD-ROM of Windows XYZ". >>> >>> And this differs from your experience in the Windows world...how? :-) >> >> I'm not sure I understand your question. Rephrase or make it more >> specific, because answering to such a vague question is pointless. > > Just a side comment from the peanut gallery... > > I was referring to the fact that in most cases, the solution in the > end most often IS to just reformat and reinstall because there's so > much cruft/crap/crud in the registry and Windows directories that that > is the best solution, unless you want to spend an extra couple days > trying to sort everything out. Ah, I see. You have a point there. I was referring to problems that require a bit of esoteric knowledge about how things work but not really a reinstallation of the entire system, i.e.: - the reinstallation of a device driver - trouble shooting by skimming through system logs - network-related and/or connectivity problems A typical example of the common Windows-technicial mindset is what happened to me just yesterday. A friend called me to ask about a problem with his wireless network connection. He asked me if I had a bit of time, as a last chance before reinstalling Windows 2000 on his personal workstation. It turned out that the USB cable he used to connect his external NetGear adapter had "issues". We swapped a new cable and all works now. This is only just *one* example of the method the typical Windows tech uses around here to fix problems. Reinstall it all and hope that the problem (sort of "magically") goes away. The time and resources wasted to reinstall a perfectly working system is absolutely unbearable as a thought to someone who has worked a while with UNIX systems and has spent the time to learn how things actually work -- something that our local Windows fan, TM4525@aol.com, seems to somehow consider a disadvantage of UNIX. I beg to differ... - Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 17:37:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02ADC16A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:37:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [195.170.0.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F4BB43D2D for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:37:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226])i9PHb2J2017535; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:37:14 +0300 Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (orion [127.0.0.1]) i9PHaxLM001945; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:36:59 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost)i9PHaxrR001944; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:36:59 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:36:59 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: TM4525@aol.com Message-ID: <20041025173659.GB1859@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:37:42 -0000 On 2004-10-25 13:20, TM4525@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 10/25/04 1:08:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >keramida@ceid.upatras.gr writes: >>> And this differs from your experience in the Windows world...how? :-) >> >>I'm not sure I understand your question. Rephrase or make it more >>specific, because answering to such a vague question is pointless. > > The inability of people to stay on point is as befuddling as it is > entertaining. > > I think we all agree that you wouldn't let a windows tech touch your > unix-like box, but you'd have no problem having a unix tech install a > windows application. 'nuf said. Does this make you think at all? Does it worry you that the so-called "technicians" of the Windows world are often called to install, configure and run systems just because "they know how to 'do' Windows"? Is what you describe something that can be considered a disadvantage of the way UNIX works (making it pretty much obligatory to "know what you are doing" before doing it)? Or is it an advantage, after all? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 17:38:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB1FF16A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:38:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63D0E43D2D for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:38:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ukla@comcast.net) Received: from [192.168.2.101] (c-24-130-114-1.we.client2.attbi.com[24.130.114.1]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <200410251738420110073jo4e>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:38:42 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.2509 Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 10:38:44 -0700 From: Steve Warwick To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: Ssh security with hosts.allow X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:38:43 -0000 Hi All, Since implementing a hosts.allow "deny" on SSHD for all but my IP I am seeing a slew of ssh attempts from overseas. My questions are: Is a good password and hosts.allow enough to keep out the bad guys? Is this normal? (I assume these attempts are automated) Thanks Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 17:47:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D00E416A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:47:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.chrononomicon.com (chrononomicon.com [216.37.143.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AC6543D45 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:47:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [192.168.0.42]) by mail.chrononomicon.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7C9E176594 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:47:26 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) In-Reply-To: <20041025173340.GA1859@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <8e.18645afb.2eae7275@aol.com> <20041025163640.GA1244@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <20041025170700.GA1638@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <20041025173340.GA1859@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:47:25 -0400 To: FreeBSD Question List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Subject: Re: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:47:28 -0000 On Oct 25, 2004, at 1:33 PM, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > I was referring to problems that require a bit of esoteric knowledge > about how > things work but not really a reinstallation of the entire system, i.e.: I realize that...at the same time, I don't blame the techs working on Windows that end up reinstalling in lieu of other choices. It's trained. There are so many oddball interactions and cruft that builds up in the system that reinstalling fixes, it's a HUGE timesaver when troubleshooting systems compared to the preferred "what's making this happen?" investigative repairs. If you're fixing a client's computer it can really help on their bill too...2 hours of wipe/reinstall/driver hunting is better for most of them than 8 hours of googling, registry pruning, etc...especially if in the end you end up having to do the wipe/reinstall anyway. Windows just encourages the wipe/reinstall method because of it's quirks and sloppy management tools and security. Usually it's the biggest timesaver to do that. Of course, it depends on the circumstances. -Bart From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 17:53:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3470716A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:53:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp19.wxs.nl (smtp19.wxs.nl [195.121.6.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B8B843D1F for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:53:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) Received: from kruij557.speed.planet.nl (ipd50a97ba.speed.planet.nl [213.10.151.186]) by smtp19.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTP id <0I6500GPXJ1956@smtp19.wxs.nl> for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 19:53:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from alex.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kruij557.speed.planet.nl (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i9PHrXWH089990; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 19:53:33 +0200 Received: (from akruijff@localhost) by alex.lan (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id i9PHrWQC089845; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 19:53:32 +0200 Content-return: prohibited Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 19:53:32 +0200 From: Alex de Kruijff In-reply-to: <200410252032.41949.oim37@mail.ru> To: oim Message-id: <20041025175332.GA1107@alex.lan> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i References: <200410252032.41949.oim37@mail.ru> X-Authentication-warning: alex.lan: akruijff set sender to freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl using -f cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IP to IP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:53:35 -0000 On Mon, Oct 25, 2004 at 08:32:41PM +0000, oim wrote: > Hello! > > Problem: I want to redirect ip 205.188.179.233 to my server 195.225.131.194 > where all packets sending to 195.225.131.194 on port 5190 redirected to > 205.188.179.233 and away. > OS: FreeBSD 5.1 > > I want that users connect to ICQ server through 195.225.131.194 (my Server) . You can redirect ports with natd with a firewall. See 'man ipfw' and 'man natd' and the handbook www.freebsd.org/handbook for information about how to set this up. Port 5190 is ICQ right? If this is the case then you might want a socks server instead. You can install the dante socks server with these commands: /usr/ports/net/dante... make install clean Also consider upgrading to FreeBSD 5.2.1 (plus patches) or FreeBSD 5.3 RC1 because 5.1 is no longer supported. Information on how to do is also written down in the handbook. -- Alex Please copy the original recipients, otherwise I may not read your reply. WWW: http://www.kruijff.org/alex/FreeBSD/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 18:01:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46A8016A4CF for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 18:01:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp14.wxs.nl (smtp14.wxs.nl [195.121.6.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0436F43D39 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 18:01:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) Received: from kruij557.speed.planet.nl (ipd50a97ba.speed.planet.nl [213.10.151.186])3questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:01:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from alex.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kruij557.speed.planet.nl (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i9PI1qRW043630; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:01:52 +0200 Received: (from akruijff@localhost) by alex.lan (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id i9PI1pQL043629; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:01:51 +0200 Content-return: prohibited Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:01:51 +0200 From: Alex de Kruijff In-reply-to: <200410251449.30755.haimat@lame.at> To: "Matthias F. Brandstetter" Message-id: <20041025180151.GB1107@alex.lan> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i References: <200410251449.30755.haimat@lame.at> X-Authentication-warning: alex.lan: akruijff set sender to freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl using -f cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Samba+ACLs, CURRENT or STABLE? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 18:01:54 -0000 On Mon, Oct 25, 2004 at 02:49:30PM +0200, Matthias F. Brandstetter wrote: > Hi all, > > I plan to setup a Samba fileserver with ACLs as a Windows domain > controller. First I tried with Linux, but I am afraid ACLs are not > wonderfully supported by it (you have to patch some core tools etc.). > > So I thougt I try it with FreeBSD. 5.x seems good for this task, since it > supports ACLs "out of the box". Now my problem is, that I want to use this > server in a production environment, but on freebsd.org I see CURRENT > should not be used for such machines. > > So my question, what to do now? Are ACLs for Samba supported on STABLE as > well, or is it safe to use CURRENT? > > Greetings and TIA, Matthias I don't think 4 STABLE has ACL. I would suggest installing 5.3 RC1. This is already prity stable and will be officaly afther a few week/months. Do be conservitive with upgrading until the 5.3 release is out. You can also install 5.2.1 plus patches instead if you like an actual release better. This prity stable althou officaly not a stable but i feel that you can safly use it. -- Alex Please copy the original recipients, otherwise I may not read your reply. WWW: http://www.kruijff.org/alex/FreeBSD/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 18:15:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B937116A4D5 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 18:15:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from av11-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (av11-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net [81.228.10.105]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B8C343D4C for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 18:15:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ertr1013@student.uu.se) Received: by av11-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 6A17137E4B; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:15:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp4-1-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (smtp4-1-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net [81.228.10.181]) by av11-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59E9837E46 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:15:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from falcon.midgard.homeip.net (h201n1fls24o1048.bredband.comhem.se [212.181.162.201]) by smtp4-1-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 8A5DF37E47 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:15:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 15940 invoked by uid 1001); 25 Oct 2004 18:15:28 -0000 Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:15:28 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson To: Richard Williamson Message-ID: <20041025181528.GA15867@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: Richard Williamson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <417D18DF.1040607@u4eatech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <417D18DF.1040607@u4eatech.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: odd warning message from gcc under FreeBSD 4.10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 18:15:33 -0000 On Mon, Oct 25, 2004 at 04:16:47PM +0100, Richard Williamson wrote: > Hello, > > Is this something known about, or: What am I missing? You are missing an '#include ' (as well as an '#include ') Since isn't included the compiler does not know what the return type of strstr() is, and therefore assumes the return-type to be 'int' by default. If you add a '-Wall' when you invoke the compiler on the code below you will get the following warnings (all of which are valid and point out problems with your code): test.c:3: warning: second argument of `main' should be `char **' test.c: In function `main': test.c:7: warning: implicit declaration of function `strstr' test.c:7: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast test.c:8: warning: implicit declaration of function `printf' test.c:11: warning: control reaches end of non-void function > > TIA, > rip > > PROBLEM: > > man strstr says: returns char * > test code throws warning on line 7: > test.c:7: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer \ > without a cast > > > TEST CODE > int main (int argc, void ** argv) > { > char *pBlah = 0x0; > char rudolph[64] = "Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer"; > char red[4] = "Red"; > > pBlah = strstr(rudolph, red); > > printf("1: %s\n", rudolph); > printf("2: %s\n", red); > printf("3: %s\n", pBlah); > } > > TEST COMPILE (linux) > bash-2.05b# gcc -o test test.c > bash-2.05b# uname -a > Linux mir 2.6.8-gentoo-r7 #1 Mon Oct 11 14:18:22 BST 2004 \ > i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux > bash-2.05b# ./test > 1: Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer > 2: Red > 3: Red Nosed Reindeer > bash-2.05b# > > TEST COMPILE (FreeBSD) > venus 17:11 [~/cassess2] rip>gcc -o test test.c > test.c: In function `main': > test.c:7: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer \ > without a cast > venus 17:11 [~/cassess2] rip>uname -a > FreeBSD venus.degree2.com 4.10-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.10-RELEASE #0: \ > Tue May 25 22:47:12 GMT 2004 > root@perseus.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > venus 17:12 [~/cassess2] rip>./test > 1: Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer > 2: Red > 3: Red Nosed Reindeer > venus 17:12 [~/cassess2] rip> -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 18:26:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D091716A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 18:26:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nagual.st (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [217.122.132.217]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E94F043D2F for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 18:26:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.st) Received: from pooh.nagual.st (pooh.nagual.st [::ffff:192.168.11.22]) by nagual.st with esmtp; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:26:05 +0200 Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:26:02 +0200 From: dick hoogendijk To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20041025202602.0c6835dc.dick@nagual.st> Organization: nagual SiTe X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.12 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.10) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: xmms sounddriver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 18:26:08 -0000 Default install of xmms gives me a choice of *output* drivers between libesdout.so (eSound) and libOSS.so (OSS driver 1.2.10) Is there a diffence between the two? I mean, what is the default driver anyway? I don't use Gnome, but fvwm2, so that means no eSound ? When xmms starts up the output sound driver is OSS. Best choice? -- dick -- http://www.nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 4.10 ++ Debian GNU/Linux (Woody) + Nai tiruvantel ar vayuvantel i Valar tielyanna nu vilja From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 18:34:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1769A16A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 18:34:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailgw1.qatar.net.qa (mailgw1.qatar.net.qa [212.77.192.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B4B543D31 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 18:34:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from eihab@qatar.net.qa) Received: from Eihab ([82.148.124.74]) by mailgw1.qatar.net.qa (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.17 (built Jun 23 2003)) with SMTP id <0I6500B3OGWMYR@mailgw1.qatar.net.qa> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:07:42 +0300 (QATAR) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:07:56 +0300 From: "Eihab E. Ibrahim" To: Long Story , Thomas.Sparrevohn@btinternet.com Message-id: <053501c4bab5$2f0266f0$0500a8c0@Eihab> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=windows-1256; reply-type=response Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pppoa problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 18:34:14 -0000 From: "Long Story" To: ; Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 7:00 PM Subject: Re: pppoa problem > > Hello Eihab, Hello Thomas, > Hello Marwan :) > I found a Zip file called, SpeedTouch330_firmware_3012.Zip > When I did unzipped this file I found two unknown extention files which is > zzzl_3.012 > and kqd6_3.012 and it came to my knowledge from somesite that the file > zzzl_3.012 > is for 330 usb speedtouch and that i have to place it in > /usr/local/libdata/ to be in the same > directory with mgmt.o, so I did so, and i did a manual modem run > modem_run -v 1 -m -d /dev/ugen0 -f /usr/local/libdata/mgmt.o > > But still complaining from no firmware found in /usr/local/libdata/mgmt.o > > Would you please correct my informations please? what additional packages > files i should install? The two files zzzl_3.012 and kqd6_3.012 are different versions of the firmware for different modem revisions. try: "dmesg -a |grep ALCATEL" to see your modem revision. mine says: ugen0: ALCATEL Speed Touch 330, rev 1.10/2.00, addr 2 kqd6_3.012 is for revision 0 and 2, zzzl_3.012 is for revision 4. You need to "Replace" mgmt.o with either one of these files, e.g. do a: # mv kqd6_3.012 /usr/local/libdata/mgmt.o this will over write the old mgmt.o file with this new one. I didn't have much luck with it though, the connection was shaky. > I downloaded a fresh copy of the file speedmgmt.tar.gz as Eihab said but it > ask for > hotplug-2001_01_16.tar.gz I also downloaded that hotplugin and I did > install it, > but still the make make install for speedmgmt doesnot work and says operator > missing.. The file speedmgmt.tar.gz contains a few files, you should just copy mgmt.o from it to your /usr/local/libdata/. A list of commands for that would be: # tar -xzvf speedmgmt.tar.gz [extracting files] # cd speedmgmt # mv mgmt.o /usr/local/libdata/ Hope this helped. Eihab E. Ibrahim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 18:39:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EA1D16A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 18:39:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD7F843D48 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 18:39:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6411A51495; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:40:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:40:13 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: "Carlos A. Carnero Delgado" Message-ID: <20041025184013.GA54976@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <417D14C7.5080601@trinity.icrt.cu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="IJpNTDwzlM2Ie8A6" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <417D14C7.5080601@trinity.icrt.cu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FYI: Time zone information update for Cuba X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 18:39:34 -0000 --IJpNTDwzlM2Ie8A6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Oct 25, 2004 at 10:59:19AM -0400, Carlos A. Carnero Delgado wrote: > Hi, >=20 > the attached diff updates /usr/src/share/zoneinfo/northamerica for this= =20 > year's unique time handling in Cuba. Wasn't an update already committed to -current? > BTW, who is the maintainer of the package that FreeBSD draws this=20 > information from? I'd like to send this so that other OSes can have the= =20 > update. I'm not sure, but that information should be in the relevant parts of the source tree that you're already looking at. Kris --IJpNTDwzlM2Ie8A6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBfUiMWry0BWjoQKURAgbKAJ9B4lWYTko1cmac/IiwvnvphEhkcACgyQa+ q2VnIpzzbJXdFYLfnbYGDpo= =eOCq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --IJpNTDwzlM2Ie8A6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 18:43:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D4F716A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 18:43:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2114F43D1D for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 18:43:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7E7DA53352; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:44:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:44:40 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20041025184439.GB54976@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <1098662488.6793@FoxSurfer.Com> <20041024230040.3c7e3234@localhost> <20041025065347.GA53453@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="+pHx0qQiF2pBVqBT" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041025065347.GA53453@thought.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: daemon@foxchat.net cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.3 Release X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 18:43:55 -0000 --+pHx0qQiF2pBVqBT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 11:53:47PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 11:00:40PM -0400, epilogue wrote: > > On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 20:01:28 -0400 (EDT) > > daemon@foxchat.net wrote: > >=20 > > > also having to update ports as I'm finding some stuff no longer > > > works. > >=20 > > it sounds as though you might want to get into the habit of reading both > > /usr/src/UPDATING (every sup of source) and /usr/ports/UPDATING (every > > sup of ports) in order to both understand and be prepared to manage such > > issues. > >=20 >=20 > I assume that you mean using the "mergemaster -p" to > create a "proxy account." I tried this with 5.3-RELEASE #2 > tonight. No joy. Can anyone on-list clue me in? What do you mean by "no joy"? What happened when you ran 'mergemaster -p'? Kris --+pHx0qQiF2pBVqBT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBfUmWWry0BWjoQKURAi00AJwPlIj2ezNtOXuwJDQ0hf4FdKJTegCg4Mg7 8t6XagaOumSaycniqz46pcU= =m8pv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --+pHx0qQiF2pBVqBT-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 18:51:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C59D616A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 18:51:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cardinal.mail.pas.earthlink.net (cardinal.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.121.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0B3E43D4C for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 18:51:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mrbluez2u@earthlink.net) Received: from cpe-24-221-143-124.az.sprintbbd.net ([24.221.143.124] helo=dmnlilrsp) by cardinal.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1CM9wb-00012L-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:51:49 -0700 From: "MrBluez" To: Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:51:48 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcS6w66Lzd8pt1iRQwuU7r2COmrZpw== Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Printer Configuration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 18:51:50 -0000 I'm having a time getting 5.2.1 to work with a HP LaserJet 4L printer. Per the handbook, I tried the following. Is it typical for the response to be doubled? If not, how do I get on the right track? Thanks grep ppc2 /var/run/dmesg.boot ppc2 port 0x778-0x77b,0x378-0x37f irq 7 on acpi0 ppc2: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode ppbus2: on ppc2 ppc2 port 0x778-0x77b,0x378-0x37f irq 7 on acpi0 ppc2: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode ppbus2: on ppc2 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 18:56:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1335616A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 18:56:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sage.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F98743D3F for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 18:56:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao [10.0.0.247]) by sage.thought.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9PIv6h0007853; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:57:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thought.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i9PIuYwf096172; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:56:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i9PIuXc1096171; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:56:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:56:32 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Kris Kennaway Message-ID: <20041025185632.GD95850@thought.org> References: <1098662488.6793@FoxSurfer.Com> <20041024230040.3c7e3234@localhost> <20041025065347.GA53453@thought.org> <20041025184439.GB54976@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041025184439.GB54976@xor.obsecurity.org> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 18 years of service to the Unix community User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: daemon@foxchat.net cc: Gary Kline cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.3 Release X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 18:56:47 -0000 On Mon, Oct 25, 2004 at 11:44:40AM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 11:53:47PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 11:00:40PM -0400, epilogue wrote: > > > On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 20:01:28 -0400 (EDT) > > > daemon@foxchat.net wrote: > > > > > > > also having to update ports as I'm finding some stuff no longer > > > > works. > > > > > > it sounds as though you might want to get into the habit of reading both > > > /usr/src/UPDATING (every sup of source) and /usr/ports/UPDATING (every > > > sup of ports) in order to both understand and be prepared to manage such > > > issues. > > > > > > > I assume that you mean using the "mergemaster -p" to > > create a "proxy account." I tried this with 5.3-RELEASE #2 > > tonight. No joy. Can anyone on-list clue me in? > > What do you mean by "no joy"? What happened when you ran 'mergemaster > -p'? > It didn't create a proxy account; or I didn't understand where/how it did. When I went ahead with the make installworld following the mergmaster -p, I got the same make error and the install quit. After I added NO_PF=yes to make.conf, everything installed. gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 19:30:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1360C16A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 19:30:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from biggie.spekt.net (biggie.spekt.net [67.18.79.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFF6D43D1D for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 19:30:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from radek@raadradd.com) Received: from raadradd.homeunix.org (bxb189.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl [83.29.251.189]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by biggie.spekt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E408B4019; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 21:30:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: by raadradd.homeunix.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4CBDEA55B; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 21:30:29 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 21:30:29 +0200 From: Radek Kozlowski To: Mick Walker Message-ID: <20041025193029.GD45424@werd> References: <1098719698.29499.2.camel@codegurus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1098719698.29499.2.camel@codegurus.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gnome 2.8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 19:30:26 -0000 On Mon, Oct 25, 2004 at 04:54:58PM +0100, Mick Walker wrote: > Will Gnome 2.8 be shipping with 5.3-R? Nope. However, the ports have already been prepared and will be commited once 5.3 is out [1]. -Radek [1] http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/newsflash.html#event2004September16:0 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 19:32:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CA2216A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 19:32:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F10043D5F for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 19:32:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6846251495; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:33:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:33:04 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20041025193304.GB63391@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <1098662488.6793@FoxSurfer.Com> <20041024230040.3c7e3234@localhost> <20041025065347.GA53453@thought.org> <20041025184439.GB54976@xor.obsecurity.org> <20041025185632.GD95850@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="H1spWtNR+x+ondvy" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041025185632.GD95850@thought.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: daemon@foxchat.net cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: 5.3 Release X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 19:32:18 -0000 --H1spWtNR+x+ondvy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Oct 25, 2004 at 11:56:32AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > On Mon, Oct 25, 2004 at 11:44:40AM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 11:53:47PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > > On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 11:00:40PM -0400, epilogue wrote: > > > > On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 20:01:28 -0400 (EDT) > > > > daemon@foxchat.net wrote: > > > >=20 > > > > > also having to update ports as I'm finding some stuff no long= er > > > > > works. > > > >=20 > > > > it sounds as though you might want to get into the habit of reading= both > > > > /usr/src/UPDATING (every sup of source) and /usr/ports/UPDATING (ev= ery > > > > sup of ports) in order to both understand and be prepared to manage= such > > > > issues. > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > I assume that you mean using the "mergemaster -p" to > > > create a "proxy account." I tried this with 5.3-RELEASE #2 > > > tonight. No joy. Can anyone on-list clue me in? > >=20 > > What do you mean by "no joy"? What happened when you ran 'mergemaster > > -p'? > >=20 >=20 > It didn't create a proxy account; or I didn't understand > where/how it did. It's supposed to compare your password files and ask you about adding the extra accounts. Kris --H1spWtNR+x+ondvy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBfVTwWry0BWjoQKURAsqwAKDlYqJrQemDx5q5bOAQosXaR+zd+wCfQ50o QDGXV0ylVQ/Zroj/xaUG174= =6Y/t -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --H1spWtNR+x+ondvy-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 19:50:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7997C16A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 19:50:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web20522.mail.yahoo.com (web20522.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.227.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5CC0F43D3F for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 19:50:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leskruz@yahoo.ca) Message-ID: <20041025195047.80431.qmail@web20522.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.115.208.56] by web20522.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:50:47 EDT Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:50:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Les Kruszewski To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Sysinstall FTP from LAN - not working X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 19:50:47 -0000 I am trying to install 5.2.1 from an iMac running OSX with an FTP server. When I set up the FTP address I use the iMac's IP and enter the FreeBSD folder location. The iMac has a password and user so these are entered in the options menu. The user, password, and IP/folder are identical to that used on my FTP client under Win98 that connects without issue. The box I am installing FreeBSD on is also a Win98 box. When running Win98 on this box I have no problems connecting to the FTP server on the iMac. The error message that I get is "no route to host" and then it asks if I would like to reconfigure. I can't connect in sysinstall with the freebsd servers either (directly or in passive mode). Again outside of the sysinstall in Win98 on the same machine, no problem. I have connected to the same location to load Suse Linux on another computer in the LAN. I set up the network information automatically with the DHCP selection so that all the information regarding my LAN comes from the router. I know that I have communication between the installer and the router since all the system info comes across okay. I cannot get a ping response, when tried from a Win98 box on the LAN, for the network address associated with the computer's NIC that I am trying to install FreeBSD on when sysinstall runs. Any thoughts on proper configuration? Les Kruszewski --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 19:59:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60AF716A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 19:59:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB83A43D53 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 19:59:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 74so476881rnk for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:59:40 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=OBUkF7cG994gAIakuGALtqRakIT0iKvSU5cveEuDIAqVP8/rM8cLizWHxL3Mu2uI4S5wKgaWsSiAybopNvtCns9mNSOu4JzEi95/4Cqf9W7zt+PileWRj73+7scumc7zdIBYUNq9PlJbYcrPkx97Bb1n/3RblrBuMDfdzMTOA/0= Received: by 10.38.59.27 with SMTP id h27mr883706rna; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:53:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.72.65 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:53:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 21:53:00 +0200 From: Gert Cuykens To: Michael Johnson In-Reply-To: <26FD3DFA-264E-11D9-BB05-000A958C81C6@ahze.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <417A69B2.1070007@sydnet.net> <0800C9A6-264C-11D9-BB05-000A958C81C6@ahze.net> <26FD3DFA-264E-11D9-BB05-000A958C81C6@ahze.net> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: flash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 19:59:52 -0000 how do i unistall /usr/ports/www/flashplugin-firefox ? Can i remove it with pkg_delete flashplugin-firefox ? make unistall does not work This is the make file PORTNAME= flashplugin-firefox PORTVERSION= 0.4.10 PORTREVISION= 3 CATEGORIES= www MASTER_SITES= http://www.swift-tools.net/Flash/ DISTNAME= flash-${PORTVERSION} EXTRACT_SUFX= .tgz MAINTAINER= sam@brj.pp.ru COMMENT= A GPL standalone Flash (TM) plugin for FireFox web browser LIB_DEPENDS= flash.0:${PORTSDIR}/graphics/libflash RUN_DEPENDS?= firefox:${PORTSDIR}/www/firefox USE_X_PREFIX= yes WRKSRC= ${WRKDIR}/${DISTNAME}/Plugin PLUGIN_DIR?= lib/firefox/lib/firefox-0.10.1/plugins PLIST_SUB+= PLUGIN_DIR=${PLUGIN_DIR} do-install: @${MKDIR} ${PREFIX}/${PLUGIN_DIR} @${INSTALL_PROGRAM} ${WRKSRC}/npflash.so ${PREFIX}/${PLUGIN_DIR} .include On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 02:21:48 -0400, Michael Johnson wrote: > > On Oct 25, 2004, at 2:18 AM, Gert Cuykens wrote: > > > And which one do you recommend ? > > > linux-flashplugin6, but try both and see which works better for you. > > > > > > > On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 02:06:37 -0400, Michael Johnson > > wrote: > >> > >> On Oct 25, 2004, at 2:02 AM, Gert Cuykens wrote: > >> > >>> Can somebody tell me the difference between > >>> > >>> /usr/ports/www/flashplugin-firefox > >> > >> Uses graphics/libflash (which is a GPL) > >> > >>> and > >>> > >>> /usr/ports/www/linuxpluginwrapper > >> > >> Uses www/linux-flashplugin6 from macromedia > >> > >> Michael > >> > >> > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 20:02:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 999AD16A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:02:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from seattle-network.com (seattle-network.com [63.249.23.159]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EDBA43D5A for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:02:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Antigen_DARKWINTER@seattle-network.com) Received: from mail pickup service by seattle-network.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:02:27 -0700 From: Antigen_DARKWINTER@FreeBSD.ORG To: TM4525@aol.com, JohnsoBS@vicksburg.navy.mil, jmorthla@seattle-network.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="ANTIGEN-7051-1937-4701-3342-29869-31729" Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Oct 2004 20:02:27.0515 (UTC) FILETIME=[8D50A0B0:01C4BACD] Date: 25 Oct 2004 13:02:27 -0700 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Antigen forwarded attachment X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:02:03 -0000 --ANTIGEN-7051-1937-4701-3342-29869-31729 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The entire message "RE: ifconfig alias: File Exists", originally sent to you by owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org), has been forwarded to you from the Antigen Quarantine area. This message may have been re-scanned by Antigen and handled according to the appropriate scan job's settings. <> --ANTIGEN-7051-1937-4701-3342-29869-31729 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="Entire Message.eml" Received: from mail pickup service by seattle-network.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 08:22:51 -0700 Received: from mx2.freebsd.org ([216.136.204.119]) by seattle-network.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 08:22:50 -0700 Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5AAE56389; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:22:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 000FD16A4F0; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:22:17 +0000 (GMT) Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 197C116A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:20:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dnsmail3.ior.navy.mil (nocb.ior.navy.mil [205.56.210.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9782A43D55 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:20:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from JohnsoBS@vicksburg.navy.mil) Received: from cg69ubd01.vicksburg.navy.mil ([205.95.65.21]) i9PFIG5v020187; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:18:21 GMT Received: by CG69UBD01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 18:23:34 +0300 Message-ID: From: JohnsoBS@vicksburg.navy.mil To: TM4525@aol.com, JohnsoBS@vicksburg.navy.mil Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 18:23:33 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: SUSPECT: RE: ifconfig alias: File Exists X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Return-Path: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-CTCH-ID: _5B557E77-8034-4819-BFB5-D166193A1380_ X-CTCH-RefID: 0 X-CTCH-Action: Ignore X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Oct 2004 15:22:51.0152 (UTC) FILETIME=[7DD2C900:01C4BAA6] X-SYBARI-SPAMDETECTED: -----Original Message----- From: TM4525@aol.com [mailto:TM4525@aol.com] Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 4:59 PM To: JohnsoBS@vicksburg.navy.mil Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ifconfig alias: File Exists In a message dated 10/24/04 11:18:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time, JohnsoBS@vicksburg.navy.mil writes: > >Is that new? You are right, that fixed it, but didn't think > I had to do > >that before :( > You get it because the guy who maintains ifconfig didn't have > the foresight > to realize the "alias" should imply a host mask, and also > that the guy who > coded the kernel code didn't think that assuming a host mask was > reasonable. > > Welcome to open source. Love it and live with it. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >To assume makes an ass out of u and me. Ok, that out of the way, the config >you assume should be coded into ifconfig and kernel is not 100% going to be >used all the time. In fact I have multiple nets and have multiple netmask >assigned on the one machine. If you actually READ "man ifconfig" it states >that this should be set to what you assume it should be. It helps when >people don't attack things they don't fully understand cause for many it >might be a person's first view at what you are bashing. Unfortunately also, >many people aren't smart enough to get a second opinion or to try beyond >there first try or someone person's like yourselfs comments. As for the "assume" thing, speak for yourself. Your implication that there should be no defaults is quite asinine. If it doesn't work with no netmask specified, then its broken. Its not unreasonable to assume that if no netmask is provided, then a host mask (for an alias) is intended. In the absence of a netmask, the only "assumption" thats reasonable is a host mask. There are lots of "assumptions" made by ifconfig. It "assumes" that you only want the interface to have one address (as if you submit an address to an interface that already has one it explicitly deletes the other). Its not unreasonable to assume that, nor would it be unreasonable to assume that the intention was to add an alias. It would certainly be safer. And I "understand" it a lot better than you do. In today's world, "assuming" the natural mask (which is what ifconfig has done since the beginning of time) is wrong most of the time. Just because someone back in the 1970s decided to do it that way doesn't make it correct. One of the basic properties of a default setting is that it should work I find it very wrong to assume anything on a network interface. Assumptions on anything that could open up a security hole are very dangerous. ifconfig has a far greater ability than many things to open up security wholes that may get around an improperly setup firewall. I agree that some assumptions can easily be made and should be but not here. _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-que --ANTIGEN-7051-1937-4701-3342-29869-31729-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 20:02:04 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E98316A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:02:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from seattle-network.com (seattle-network.com [63.249.23.159]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B68E243D2D for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:02:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Antigen_DARKWINTER@seattle-network.com) Received: from mail pickup service by seattle-network.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:02:28 -0700 From: Antigen_DARKWINTER@FreeBSD.ORG To: tedm@toybox.placo.com, TM4525@aol.com, stefan@swebase.com, jmorthla@seattle-network.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="ANTIGEN-7051-1937-4701-3342-29869-31729" Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Oct 2004 20:02:28.0036 (UTC) FILETIME=[8DA02040:01C4BACD] Date: 25 Oct 2004 13:02:28 -0700 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Antigen forwarded attachment X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:02:04 -0000 --ANTIGEN-7051-1937-4701-3342-29869-31729 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The entire message "Re: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows", originally sent to you by owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org), has been forwarded to you from the Antigen Quarantine area. This message may have been re-scanned by Antigen and handled according to the appropriate scan job's settings. <> --ANTIGEN-7051-1937-4701-3342-29869-31729 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="Entire Message.eml" Received: from mail pickup service by seattle-network.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:44:26 -0700 Received: from mx2.freebsd.org ([216.136.204.119]) by seattle-network.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:44:25 -0700 Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24ACF563E4; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:43:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0700016A4D2; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:43:45 +0000 (GMT) Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46BCF16A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:43:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.tsgincorporated.com (ns1.tsgincorporated.com [67.66.242.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA84043D54 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:43:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micheal@tsgincorporated.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.tsgincorporated.com [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1.tsgincorporated.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2989B3A7435; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:43:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from smtp1.tsgincorporated.com ([127.0.0.1])port 10024) with ESMTP id 10897-01; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:43:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from smtp3.tsgincorporated.com (support.tsgincorporated.com [67.66.242.9]) by smtp1.tsgincorporated.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E4DC3A7431; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:43:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from micheal (micheal.tsgincorporated.com [67.66.242.77]) by smtp3.tsgincorporated.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 74A2F62896; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:43:35 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <056501c4bab1$c72d9ed0$4df24243@tsgincorporated.com> From: "Micheal Patterson" To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" , , References: Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:43:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at tsgincorporated.com Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: SUSPECT: Re: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Return-Path: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-CTCH-ID: _5B557E77-8034-4819-BFB5-D166193A1380_ X-CTCH-RefID: 0 X-CTCH-Action: Ignore X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Oct 2004 16:44:25.0770 (UTC) FILETIME=[E33E38A0:01C4BAB1] X-SYBARI-SPAMDETECTED: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: ; Cc: Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 4:54 AM Subject: RE: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows > > There > > are more people around that can administer MS systems than unix, > > Yes, > > > and it can > > be done with a lower level of talent. . > > Having seen and dealing with the aftermath of networks owned by > people that thought that, I have to state your out of your gourd. > > Windows today is just as complex as any UNIX system. Sure, maybe > a decade ago a peer-to-peer network of Windows systems your > statement might have been true, but not today. > This type of discussion has been going around the world since Windows and *Nix first clashed. Windows has a gui, *Nix by default on most OS's, doesn't. To configure Windows, you point here, click there, right click and check properties here, add this information in the line provided. Click apply and the program runs and yet there are those that feel it is more complex than *Nix. I'll tell you what. You take any MS certified, high end admin, that's never seen a *Nix OS and see how far he gets. Just tell him to setup ftp with chroot environment, or bind, or heaven forbid Sendmail with rbl, access, virtual aliasing, etc. If he's never seen it, it'll take him forever. To those that live in the *Nix world, we can generally walk up to a Windows DC and make it do what we want. Do you really think that MS was the first to come up with MS Shares? What about AD User propogation to other DC's? DNS? Or even Mail? Where do you think they got those ideas from? Honestly, what makes you think that Windows is more complex in it's administration than a *Nix system? It's common knowledge that Windows is "easier" to manage. That's one of it's selling points and it always has been. "Windows is now easier than ever, just point and click". Tell me how many times have you heard someone say that about any *Nix OS currently available? The human race as a whole, is always looking for something to make doing something easier for them. That's what drives our desire to contstantly design new technology. o Man walked everywhere then he realized, riding a horse was faster and easier than walking 3 hours. o They designed a saddle for the horse because it was easier on the ass than barebacking it. o They designed a car because it was easier than riding a horse and thought to be faster in it's infancy. o Cars were made faster as the years went along because we wanted to get there faster. o The airplane was designed because people wanted to leave the ground and fly to wherever they wanted to go. o Helicopters were made because it's easier to land in a field with no landing strip than to build the runway for a plane. o Computers were made because people got headaches doing complex calculations and wanted something that could do it for them and do it faster as well. and so on and so forth. The human race, as a whole, is lazy and always looking for something to make their lives easier. In this day and age of computer technology, MS provides that to us better than *Nix does. Yet, there are those that are adamant that Windows is more complex than *Nix is. How ironic. > Ted > -- Micheal Patterson Senior Communications Systems Engineer 405-917-0600 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. 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This message may have been re-scanned by Antigen and handled according to the appropriate scan job's settings. <> --ANTIGEN-7051-1937-4701-3342-29869-31729 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="Entire Message.eml" Received: from mail pickup service by seattle-network.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 07:59:32 -0700 Received: from mx2.freebsd.org ([216.136.204.119]) by seattle-network.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 07:59:31 -0700 Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31DE655CF5; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:59:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB3B016A4F4; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:58:57 +0000 (GMT) Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4363216A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:58:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-m16.mx.aol.com (imo-m16.mx.aol.com [64.12.138.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBCD243D1D for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:58:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from TM4525@aol.com) Received: from TM4525@aol.com by imo-m16.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id n.29.64b6a44f (3924); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 10:58:39 -0400 (EDT) From: TM4525@aol.com Message-ID: <29.64b6a44f.2eae6e9f@aol.com> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 10:58:39 EDT To: JohnsoBS@vicksburg.navy.mil MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5114 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: SUSPECT: Re: ifconfig alias: File Exists X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Return-Path: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-CTCH-ID: _5B557E77-8034-4819-BFB5-D166193A1380_ X-CTCH-RefID: 0 X-CTCH-Action: Ignore X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Oct 2004 14:59:32.0100 (UTC) FILETIME=[3BEC6440:01C4BAA3] X-SYBARI-SPAMDETECTED: In a message dated 10/24/04 11:18:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time, JohnsoBS@vicksburg.navy.mil writes: > >Is that new? You are right, that fixed it, but didn't think > I had to do > >that before :( > You get it because the guy who maintains ifconfig didn't have > the foresight > to realize the "alias" should imply a host mask, and also > that the guy who > coded the kernel code didn't think that assuming a host mask was > reasonable. > > Welcome to open source. Love it and live with it. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >To assume makes an ass out of u and me. Ok, that out of the way, the config >you assume should be coded into ifconfig and kernel is not 100% going to be >used all the time. In fact I have multiple nets and have multiple netmask >assigned on the one machine. If you actually READ "man ifconfig" it states >that this should be set to what you assume it should be. It helps when >people don't attack things they don't fully understand cause for many it >might be a person's first view at what you are bashing. Unfortunately also, >many people aren't smart enough to get a second opinion or to try beyond >there first try or someone person's like yourselfs comments. As for the "assume" thing, speak for yourself. Your implication that there should be no defaults is quite asinine. If it doesn't work with no netmask specified, then its broken. Its not unreasonable to assume that if no netmask is provided, then a host mask (for an alias) is intended. In the absence of a netmask, the only "assumption" thats reasonable is a host mask. There are lots of "assumptions" made by ifconfig. It "assumes" that you only want the interface to have one address (as if you submit an address to an interface that already has one it explicitly deletes the other). Its not unreasonable to assume that, nor would it be unreasonable to assume that the intention was to add an alias. It would certainly be safer. And I "understand" it a lot better than you do. In today's world, "assuming" the natural mask (which is what ifconfig has done since the beginning of time) is wrong most of the time. Just because someone back in the 1970s decided to do it that way doesn't make it correct. One of the basic properties of a default setting is that it should work. _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-que --ANTIGEN-7051-1937-4701-3342-29869-31729-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 20:02:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C753F16A504 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:02:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7543743D49 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:02:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 73so501586rnk for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:02:55 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Z1zqfVtWV0VaWHYt5ykcDirM2jGRp088NBnLmixomdvY+NQQeq9U0havnv0YwO6sl3j0UoFE1XdylRFt0RudZbcQ/xvbw+UO/xitW03sg1PrwSDZoN+ukfTf/dg3p/71j1rRWQda0P4XDH+Opcd7Z7WcQhh8B/V+RLqHVnqxVW8= Received: by 10.38.13.46 with SMTP id 46mr869919rnm; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:36:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.72.65 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:36:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 21:36:14 +0200 From: Gert Cuykens To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: photoshop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:02:58 -0000 What is the best aplication on freebsd for editing pictures ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 20:15:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5DEF16A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:15:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from amsfep19-int.chello.nl (amsfep19-int.chello.nl [213.46.243.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2352443D41 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:15:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Danovitsch@Vitsch.net) Received: from Vitsch.net ([212.187.78.35]) by amsfep19-int.chello.nl (InterMail vM.6.01.03.04 201-2131-111-106-20040729) with ESMTP id <20041025201500.HUUA24789.amsfep19-int.chello.nl@Vitsch.net>; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 22:15:00 +0200 Received: from 192.168.2.8 (cp402377-c.venlo1.lb.home.nl [217.122.93.195]) by Vitsch.net (8.12.3p2/8.11.3) with ESMTP id i9PKErun035741; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 22:14:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Danovitsch@Vitsch.net) From: "Daan Vreeken [PA4DAN]" To: Gert Cuykens Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 22:14:54 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.2 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410252214.54723.Danovitsch@Vitsch.net> cc: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: photoshop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:15:03 -0000 On Monday 25 October 2004 21:36, Gert Cuykens wrote: > What is the best aplication on freebsd for editing pictures ? Try the Gimp for image editting and have a look at Sodipodi if you're interested in Vector graphics. Both can be found in the ports-tree. grtz, Daan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 20:17:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA1B116A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:17:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 352F843D1D for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:17:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id i9PKHdp25344; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:17:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200410252017.i9PKHdp25344@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: mav@wastegate.net (doug reynolds) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:17:38 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <417A7A56.4060407@wastegate.net> from "doug reynolds" at Oct 23, 2004 11:35:50 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dump/restore indexing question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:17:47 -0000 > > I have freebsd 4.10 on one of my production servers. > > I have been using the dump/restore combo to backup my drive, and I run a > nightly dump -9 on the /home partition, and most of the dump -9s are > dumped to a single tape since I don't have daily acs to swap the tapes > more than once a month or so. > > I'm wondering if there is a utility that can index the dumps on a tape > and list the time/date for each dump on the tape. I looked through the > dump/restore/mt man pages, google'd, and looked though the ports > without much luck. Well, you could do a 'restore -t' on the tape and pipe the output to a file. You would have to reposition the tape and then run the restore on it. Then you might have to sort it to suit yourself. Lack of a good index feature is a major deficiency of dump/restore from my point of view. Also, I hope you do an occasional dump 0 and not all just dump 9. ////jerry > > please CC this to my email, as I am not subscribed to the list anymore.. > > thanx in advance. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 20:17:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D590316A4EE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:17:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cathy.bmts.com (cathy.bmts.com [216.183.128.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C297F43D49 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:17:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rhempel@bmts.com) Received: from PC300GL (cheetah-bar-ppp138.bmts.com [216.183.159.139]) by cathy.bmts.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i9PKEu5P019830; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:14:56 -0400 (EDT) From: "Ralph Hempel" To: "Gert Cuykens" , Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:18:58 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-reply-to: X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 Importance: Normal X-bmts-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-bmts-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-MailScanner-From: rhempel@bmts.com Subject: RE: photoshop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: rhempel@bmts.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:17:54 -0000 > What is the best aplication on freebsd for editing pictures ? I know this one! If you want something Photoshop-like and are using a GUI, then gimp If you want something from the command line, thein ImageMagick Cheers, Ralph From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 20:19:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EB7F16A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:19:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from raptor.cigb.edu.cu (raptor.cigb.edu.cu [200.55.134.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13B2443D1D for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:18:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from osmany.guirola@cigb.edu.cu) Received: from atlas.cigb.edu.cu ([172.16.1.12]) by raptor.cigb.edu.cu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:18:44 -0400 Received: from Unknown [172.16.1.4] by atlas.cigb.edu.cu - SurfControl E-mail Filter (4.6); Monday, 25 October 2004, 16:18:37 Received: from [172.16.11.106] ([172.16.11.106]) by mercurio.cigb.edu.cu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:18:36 -0400 Message-ID: <200410251619.16680.osmany.guirola@cigb.edu.cu> From: Osmany Guirola Cruz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:19:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Oct 2004 20:18:36.0253 (UTC) FILETIME=[CEBA50D0:01C4BACF] References: In-Reply-To: Organization: CIGB User-Agent: KMail/1.7 Subject: Re: photoshop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:19:03 -0000 Gimp On Monday 25 October 2004 15:36, Gert Cuykens wrote: > What is the best aplication on freebsd for editing pictures ? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 20:32:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4612416A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:32:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (ns0.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7181443D1F for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:32:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1])i9PKWq5M002100 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 21:32:52 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)i9PKWqHo002099 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 21:32:52 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 21:32:52 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20041025203252.GA1356@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , FreeBSD Questions References: <20041025161403.GB57087@keyslapper.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="BXVAT5kNtrzKuDFl" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041025161403.GB57087@keyslapper.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.5.6 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 21:32:52 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040904, clamav-milter version 0.75l on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: moving to 5.3 and need help understanding firewalls X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:32:59 -0000 --BXVAT5kNtrzKuDFl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Oct 25, 2004 at 12:14:03PM -0400, Louis LeBlanc wrote: =20 > I had thought about this one a bit though, and figured that it would be > a simple translation to the external network: > ${fwcmd} add pass log tcp from any to ${ip} 22 setup limit src-addr 4 > But I never put it in because I don't understand exactly what it will > do. What that does is limit you to having no more than 4 remote SSH sessions running concurrently from any particular source address. This can't stop probing of your port 22, but it might slow it down some. Hmmm... perhaps you might find something more like: ${fwcmd} add pass log tcp from any to ${ip} 22 setup limit dst-port 22 more effective. That limits you to no more than four incoming SSH sessions in total. However, the most effective defense is either to move the port sshd(8) listens on, or to prevent people logging in using passwords at all -- key based auth is a lot more secure all round, or use one-time passwords. See sshd_config(8) (particularly the description of the ChallengeResponseAuthentication and PasswordAuthentication commands), ssh-keygen(1), pam_unix(8) and opie(4). Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --BXVAT5kNtrzKuDFl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBfWL0iD657aJF7eIRAjFTAKCzbj3HqggqCoeazfv48iKPmrVWagCdHBm2 ONcJjeRUXbKpRW3NWYh/qBY= =2wtt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --BXVAT5kNtrzKuDFl-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 21:13:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4678516A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 21:13:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailgw1.qatar.net.qa (mailgw1.qatar.net.qa [212.77.192.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3B4743D41 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 21:13:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from eihab@qatar.net.qa) Received: from Eihab ([82.148.124.74]) by mailgw1.qatar.net.qa (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.17 (built Jun 23 2003)) with SMTP id <0I6500CAJPG5A2@mailgw1.qatar.net.qa> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:12:11 +0300 (QATAR) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:12:28 +0300 From: "Eihab E. Ibrahim" To: Gert Cuykens Message-id: <05ea01c4bace$f5f83410$0500a8c0@Eihab> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: photoshop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 21:13:11 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gert Cuykens" To: Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 10:36 PM Subject: photoshop > What is the best aplication on freebsd for editing pictures ? The closest thing I found to Photoshop is The GIMP. Check http://www.gimp.org/ and /usr/ports/graphics/gimp/pkg-descr if you have the ports collection installed. Hope this helped. Eihab E. Ibrahim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 21:37:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A784716A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 21:37:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ioskeha.hittite.isp.9tel.net (ioskeha.hittite.isp.9tel.net [62.62.156.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71B9943D58 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 21:37:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from huwwynnjones@neuf.fr) Received: from [81.185.81.95] (unknown [81.185.81.95]) by ioskeha.hittite.isp.9tel.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD1E214C058; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:03:10 +0200 (CEST) From: Huw Wynn-Jones To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:38:07 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410252338.08171.huwwynnjones@neuf.fr> cc: Spiral Eyed Girl Subject: Re: Upgrading KDE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 21:37:43 -0000 On Sunday 24 October 2004 13:42, Spiral Eyed Girl wrote: > Hello, I am trying to upgrade KDE, using make install in the ports > directory, and I get this error: > > ===> kdelibs-3.3.0_2 conflicts with installed package(s): > kdebase-3.1.4 > > They install files into the same place. > Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1). > > and I try to do a "portupgrade kde" and get this error: > > Stale dependency: kde-3.1.4 --> openldap-client-2.1.23 -- manually run > 'pkgdb -F' to fix, or specify -O to force. > > How do I upgrade KDE without using pkg_delete? Or is that the only way to > do it? > > Thanks Hello, Check out the Kde-Freebsd page for some tips. http://freebsd.kde.org/ There is also a freebsd-kde mailing list. I had some trouble with the same upgrade so I ended up deleting all the old packages and then rebuilding KDE from scratch. It's not so much bother really. Just delete by force everything beginning with a K! Cheers Huw From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 21:49:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71C1416A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 21:49:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sage.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3AD943D31 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 21:49:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao [10.0.0.247]) by sage.thought.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9PLoEh0008348; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:50:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thought.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i9PLncMX096587; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:49:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i9PLna6t096586; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:49:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:49:35 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Kris Kennaway Message-ID: <20041025214935.GA96524@thought.org> References: <1098662488.6793@FoxSurfer.Com> <20041024230040.3c7e3234@localhost> <20041025065347.GA53453@thought.org> <20041025184439.GB54976@xor.obsecurity.org> <20041025185632.GD95850@thought.org> <20041025193304.GB63391@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041025193304.GB63391@xor.obsecurity.org> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 18 years of service to the Unix community User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: daemon@foxchat.net cc: Gary Kline cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.3 Release X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 21:49:47 -0000 On Mon, Oct 25, 2004 at 12:33:04PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Mon, Oct 25, 2004 at 11:56:32AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > It didn't create a proxy account; or I didn't understand > > where/how it did. > > It's supposed to compare your password files and ask you about adding > the extra accounts. > Strange. mergmaster only asked where to create its /var/tmp file. I was upgrading from my 5.2.0 CD that somebody burned for me last January. I'll have to grepthru the script, see why the "-p" flag was a no-op. Meanwhile, can you send me the passwd and group entries I am supposed to have? Whatever happened was likely my fault somewhere along the line; in any case, some by-hand hacking should be able to resolve this. thanks much, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 21:52:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8620116A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 21:52:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (b4.ebbed1.client.atlantech.net [209.190.235.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A627443D46 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 21:52:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from frambozen (frambozen [192.168.1.9]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA88339; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:52:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:52:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Hill To: Gert Cuykens In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20041025175035.K11535@frambozen.monochrome.org> References: <417A69B2.1070007@sydnet.net> <0800C9A6-264C-11D9-BB05-000A958C81C6@ahze.net> <26FD3DFA-264E-11D9-BB05-000A958C81C6@ahze.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: Michael Johnson cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: flash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 21:52:40 -0000 On Mon, 25 Oct 2004, Gert Cuykens wrote: > how do i unistall /usr/ports/www/flashplugin-firefox ? > Can i remove it with pkg_delete flashplugin-firefox ? > make unistall does not work Try make deinstall. -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging <|> ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 21:58:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 881AE16A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 21:58:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D5C443D41 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 21:58:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 65so106644wri for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:57:59 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=FYhvQBPE/k56u9cl4TD+CPVeg7WWDLDZHq6VqBQDRguT7XRYCXhfYa00D5C8YZZ3EDOc0jw4V9HEvY3l+rxq4UPBkOHSTAmKhmGkJyWEBNZN73HpqRX6JwartOuM8eB/A60tAU84gFYPJMqHngvy5c1k46RHrbPlLWDYp4pwFaE= Received: by 10.38.81.16 with SMTP id e16mr43634rnb; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:57:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.72.65 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:57:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:57:59 +0200 From: Gert Cuykens To: Chris Hill In-Reply-To: <20041025175035.K11535@frambozen.monochrome.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <417A69B2.1070007@sydnet.net> <0800C9A6-264C-11D9-BB05-000A958C81C6@ahze.net> <26FD3DFA-264E-11D9-BB05-000A958C81C6@ahze.net> <20041025175035.K11535@frambozen.monochrome.org> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: flash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 21:58:00 -0000 whohoo it works 7rxI# make deinstall ===> Deinstalling for www/flashplugin-firefox ===> flashplugin-firefox not installed, skipping 7rxI# On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:52:36 -0400 (EDT), Chris Hill wrote: > On Mon, 25 Oct 2004, Gert Cuykens wrote: > > > how do i unistall /usr/ports/www/flashplugin-firefox ? > > Can i remove it with pkg_delete flashplugin-firefox ? > > make unistall does not work > > Try make deinstall. > > -- > Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org > ** [ Busy Expunging <|> ] > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 22:48:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34CA516A4CF for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 22:48:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wrongcrowd.com (dsl231-043-085.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E25AC43D4C for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 22:48:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@wrongcrowd.com) Received: from [192.168.1.95] (port=3755 helo=tbird.wrongcrowd.com) by wrongcrowd.com with esmtp (Exim 4.34 (FreeBSD)) id 1CMDcK-000KER-1A for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:47:09 -0700 Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.2.20041025154621.0482d690@wrongcrowd.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.2.0 Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:48:11 -0700 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Matt Staroscik In-Reply-To: <20041025215913.1E4A616A4CF@hub.freebsd.org> References: <20041025215913.1E4A616A4CF@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Subject: Re: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 22:48:31 -0000 At 02:59 PM 10/25/2004, you wrote: >Just a side comment from the peanut gallery... > >I was referring to the fact that in most cases, the solution in the end >most often IS to just reformat and reinstall because there's so much >cruft/crap/crud in the registry and Windows directories that that is >the best solution, unless you want to spend an extra couple days trying >to sort everything out. I have been temping at Microsoft for a while now. They have a term for this operation: "flatten." As in, "CMS2002 is acting up on that box and authoring mode is broken... we need to flatten it. It's scheduled for next Monday." Here, deep in Mordor, it's a way of life. :) - matt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 23:08:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FCE016A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:08:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F374943D31 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:08:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6BA0452C13; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:09:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:09:37 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20041025230937.GA96806@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <1098662488.6793@FoxSurfer.Com> <20041024230040.3c7e3234@localhost> <20041025065347.GA53453@thought.org> <20041025184439.GB54976@xor.obsecurity.org> <20041025185632.GD95850@thought.org> <20041025193304.GB63391@xor.obsecurity.org> <20041025214935.GA96524@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="BXVAT5kNtrzKuDFl" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041025214935.GA96524@thought.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: daemon@foxchat.net cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: 5.3 Release X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:08:50 -0000 --BXVAT5kNtrzKuDFl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Oct 25, 2004 at 02:49:35PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > On Mon, Oct 25, 2004 at 12:33:04PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 25, 2004 at 11:56:32AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > >=20 > > > It didn't create a proxy account; or I didn't understand > > > where/how it did. > >=20 > > It's supposed to compare your password files and ask you about adding > > the extra accounts. > >=20 > Strange. mergmaster only asked where to create its /var/tmp > file. I was upgrading from my 5.2.0 CD that somebody burned > for me last January. =20 >=20 > I'll have to grepthru the script, see why the "-p" flag > was a no-op. Meanwhile, can you send me the passwd and=20 > group entries I am supposed to have? Just compare to the files in /usr/src/etc Kris P.S. Your mail server is lame and accuses me of sending you spam. Please fix. --BXVAT5kNtrzKuDFl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBfYexWry0BWjoQKURAn7jAJ9CUvj+HYJNxHtRKt/0EokoulPL0ACg48yC apANdmgMcp0XA4FeXhMX8Js= =cxaY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --BXVAT5kNtrzKuDFl-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 23:42:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9285A16A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:42:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dave.horsfall.org (mrdavi2.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.75.233]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3A9843D2F for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:42:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by dave.horsfall.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i9PNgS511733 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:42:28 +1000 (EST) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:42:28 +1000 (EST) From: Dave Horsfall To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20041025173659.GB1859@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> Message-ID: References: <20041025173659.GB1859@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:42:32 -0000 On Mon, 25 Oct 2004, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > I think we all agree that you wouldn't let a windows tech touch your > > unix-like box, but you'd have no problem having a unix tech install a > > windows application. 'nuf said. > > Does this make you think at all? .:\:/:. +-------------------+ .:\:\:/:/:. | PLEASE DO NOT | :.:\:\:/:/:.: | FEED THE TROLLS | :=.' - - '.=: | | '=(\ 9 9 /)=' | Thank you, | ( (_) ) | Management | /`-vvv-'\ +-------------------+ / \ | | @@@ / /|,,,,,|\ \ | | @@@ /_// /^\ \\_\ @x@@x@ | | |/ WW( ( ) )WW \||||/ | | \| __\,,\ /,,/__ \||/ | | | jgs (______Y______) /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\//\/\\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ -- Dave From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 23:55:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 775B316A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:55:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gizmo03bw.bigpond.com (gizmo03bw.bigpond.com [144.140.70.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1D97043D53 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:55:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ekeberg@bigpond.net.au) Received: (qmail 30328 invoked from network); 25 Oct 2004 23:55:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO bwmam11.bigpond.com) (144.135.24.100) by gizmo03bw.bigpond.com with SMTP; 25 Oct 2004 23:55:46 -0000 Received: from cpe-144-137-193-146.sa.bigpond.net.au ([144.137.193.146]) by bwmam11.bigpond.com(MAM REL_3_4_2a 174/131671961) with SMTP id 131671961; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:55:46 +1000 From: Hugh Ekeberg To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:25:27 +0930 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410260925.27313.ekeberg@bigpond.net.au> Subject: Re: Printer Configuration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:55:50 -0000 I got impatient wading through the chapter on print setup in the handbook and found a very straight forward procedure after reading an article on www.onlamp.com about apsfilter. The setup for my LaserJet 5L was very clean and easy. The article is at: http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/11/06/Big_Scary_Daemons.html I can't help you with your dmesg.boot output. On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 04:21, MrBluez wrote: > I'm having a time getting 5.2.1 to work with a HP LaserJet 4L printer. Per > the handbook, I tried the following. Is it typical for the response to be > doubled? If not, how do I get on the right track? Thanks > > > > grep ppc2 /var/run/dmesg.boot > > ppc2 port 0x778-0x77b,0x378-0x37f irq 7 on acpi0 > > ppc2: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode > > ppbus2: on ppc2 > > ppc2 port 0x778-0x77b,0x378-0x37f irq 7 on acpi0 > > ppc2: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode > > ppbus2: on ppc2 > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 00:06:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82E5B16A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:06:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 212EC43D2F for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:06:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id i9Q05eb26127; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:05:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200410260005.i9Q05eb26127@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: dave@horsfall.org (Dave Horsfall) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:05:39 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: from "Dave Horsfall" at Oct 26, 2004 09:42:28 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:06:02 -0000 > > On Mon, 25 Oct 2004, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > > > I think we all agree that you wouldn't let a windows tech touch your > > > unix-like box, but you'd have no problem having a unix tech install a > > > windows application. 'nuf said. > > > > Does this make you think at all? > > > .:\:/:. > +-------------------+ .:\:\:/:/:. > | PLEASE DO NOT | :.:\:\:/:/:.: > | FEED THE TROLLS | :=.' - - '.=: > | | '=(\ 9 9 /)=' > | Thank you, | ( (_) ) > | Management | /`-vvv-'\ > +-------------------+ / \ > | | @@@ / /|,,,,,|\ \ > | | @@@ /_// /^\ \\_\ > @x@@x@ | | |/ WW( ( ) )WW > \||||/ | | \| __\,,\ /,,/__ > \||/ | | | jgs (______Y______) > /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\//\/\\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Nice artwork. I think I will appropriate it just for fun. I hope it is under the BSD copyright/license. ////jerry > > -- Dave > _______________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 00:12:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54A8816A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:12:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dave.horsfall.org (mrdavi2.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.75.233]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7487943D2D for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:12:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by dave.horsfall.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i9Q0CR311873 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:12:27 +1000 (EST) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:12:26 +1000 (EST) From: Dave Horsfall To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200410260005.i9Q05eb26127@clunix.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: References: <200410260005.i9Q05eb26127@clunix.cl.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:12:31 -0000 On Mon, 25 Oct 2004, Jerry McAllister wrote: [ Do Not Feed The Trolls ] > > \||/ | | | jgs (______Y______) > > /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\//\/\\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ > > Nice artwork. I think I will appropriate it just for fun. > I hope it is under the BSD copyright/license. It's been around for at least 15 years, if not more; first seen on Usenet (back when it was a useful resource). You probably ought to preserve the (presumably) author's initials, "jgs", in the spirit of the BSD licence :-) -- Dave From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 00:28:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1498116A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:28:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FF8143D4C for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:28:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kjelderg@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so104077wri for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:28:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=JYyRCppiyWrUKLARgEKvFzbbo3XFdIDCHO0fXEOb07X+wSsQ81XvetkeitWzyJy7cBC+A/oTu32d1u3cpQTKEFWJmnlz5kMnC+4WobINnY6crBK2qHYkaD83IUj3cDMlPsar0fUWPhYWQQNt3rLqfPJseFAL+IfP2ADU3Azm3mg= Received: by 10.38.15.14 with SMTP id 14mr139012rno; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:28:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.15.69 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:28:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 19:28:02 -0500 From: Eric Kjeldergaard To: Giorgos Keramidas In-Reply-To: <20041025131534.GB4553@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <1269804102505482996599b@mail.gmail.com> <20041025131534.GB4553@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: font size on console. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eric Kjeldergaard List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:28:07 -0000 On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:15:34 +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2004-10-25 08:48, pixiedave wrote: > > hey all, is therer a way to adjust the "resolution" on the console? I > > have played around with the settings in sysinstall, but it does not > > apear to do anything. I have huge characters, and like small size > > fonts and more real estate. > > > > If it matters, ATI 7500 TV card and a 17 inch lcd display. > > Running 6.0 on a P4 Intel Board. > > You can always try to kldload vesa.ko at boot time and then experiment > with VESA 800x600 modes: > > # vidcontrol -g 100x37 VESA_800x600 > Even without the VESA being loaded, setting appropriate fonts and doing a vidcontrol 80x60 will be a big help. I run the 80x60 on my laptop which is a radeon 7500 14" LCD. It gives me a LOT more text area. man vidcontrol is the real resource on the matter. > Someone was working on improved VESA support for the FreeBSD console. > The last time I checked the patch that floated around the -current > mailing list, it supported 800x600 modes, 1024x768, even 1280x1024 on > some adapters. > > Then, there's always X11 :-) I didn't know that one could pass 1024x768. Thought there was some or another issue with it, but maybe that's just for displaying splash images. -- If I write a signature, my emails will appear more personalised. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 00:36:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A424516A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:36:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-m27.mx.aol.com (imo-m27.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B20C43D5E for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:36:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from TM4525@aol.com) Received: from TM4525@aol.com by imo-m27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id v.97.5099aea2 (3964); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:36:04 -0400 (EDT) From: TM4525@aol.com Message-ID: <97.5099aea2.2eaef5f4@aol.com> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:36:04 EDT To: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5114 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:36:13 -0000 In a message dated 10/25/04 1:37:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, keramida@ceid.upatras.gr writes: >>>> And this differs from your experience in the Windows world...how? :-) >> >>>I'm not sure I understand your question. Rephrase or make it more >>>specific, because answering to such a vague question is pointless. >> >> The inability of people to stay on point is as befuddling as it is >> entertaining. >> >> I think we all agree that you wouldn't let a windows tech touch your >> unix-like box, but you'd have no problem having a unix tech install a >> windows application. 'nuf said. >Does this make you think at all? > >Does it worry you that the so-called "technicians" of the Windows world are >often called to install, configure and run systems just because "they know >how to 'do' Windows"? > >Is what you describe something that can be considered a disadvantage of the >way UNIX works (making it pretty much obligatory to "know what you are doing" >before doing it)? >Or is it an advantage, after all? I haven't the foggiest idea what you're asking, but what I originally said what that, although unix may be "better", there are reasons that people use Windows. Just because FreeBSD may be a better performer or perhaps more flexible, doesn't mean that its suitable for use any corporate environment. If you have a staff of people who "know" windows, you can't just move to FreeBSD and expect them to be able to administer it at the same level. The guy who originally posted was considering using Yahoo as evidence of FreeBSDs abilities. But the usefulness of an O/S is also a function of the talent that you have administering it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 00:42:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EB4216A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:42:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 166CA43D58 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:42:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from garciarojas@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so105238wri for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:42:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=Nk19Oq4Hk+Un9c6TOUprIHjonT8FUb+hGQUZFBM77kXMY1OR+YhH2xY8rwv5aNJ4vllNZfJYj79uZ7etb1iCEOWNaDG7K5UKoY7CanLNyvkHLSsqk4QOwW2U7yAwRZjKLhg7Mh9Fja5Qu0g9ZiQgz6GFAu6GKrVz40V0dgRH+kM= Received: by 10.38.79.70 with SMTP id c70mr135510rnb; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:42:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.78.49 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:42:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <397b2cad041025174232f38c30@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 19:42:14 -0500 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Guillermo_Garc=EDa-Rojas?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20041025202602.0c6835dc.dick@nagual.st> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable References: <20041025202602.0c6835dc.dick@nagual.st> Subject: Re: xmms sounddriver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Guillermo_Garc=EDa-Rojas?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:42:15 -0000 I use OSS but when I first run an app that uses sound, and then start XMMS, I can no longer use OSS sound driver. It's just like the first app locks or blocks the sound device or something like that. On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:26:02 +0200, dick hoogendijk wrote: > Default install of xmms gives me a choice of *output* drivers between > libesdout.so (eSound) and libOSS.so (OSS driver 1.2.10) >=20 > Is there a diffence between the two? I mean, what is the default driver > anyway? > I don't use Gnome, but fvwm2, so that means no eSound ? > When xmms starts up the output sound driver is OSS. Best choice? >=20 > -- > dick -- http://www.nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE > ++ Running FreeBSD 4.10 ++ Debian GNU/Linux (Woody) > + Nai tiruvantel ar vayuvantel i Valar tielyanna nu vilja > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" >=20 --=20 --- Guillermo Garc=EDa Rojas Covarrubias Director General=20 SoloBSD http://www.solobsd.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 00:49:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3656A16A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:49:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from biggie.spekt.net (biggie.spekt.net [67.18.79.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E74F43D5E for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:49:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from radek@raadradd.com) Received: from raadradd.homeunix.org (bxb189.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl [83.29.251.189]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by biggie.spekt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 677424019; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 02:49:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: by raadradd.homeunix.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5707BA55B; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 02:49:50 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 02:49:50 +0200 From: Radek Kozlowski To: Guillermo =?iso-8859-2?Q?Garc=EDa-Rojas?= Message-ID: <20041026004950.GH45424@werd> References: <20041025202602.0c6835dc.dick@nagual.st> <397b2cad041025174232f38c30@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <397b2cad041025174232f38c30@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xmms sounddriver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:49:54 -0000 On Mon, Oct 25, 2004 at 07:42:14PM -0500, Guillermo García-Rojas wrote: > I use OSS but when I first run an app that uses sound, and then start > XMMS, I can no longer use OSS sound driver. It's just like the first > app locks or blocks the sound device or something like that. You might want to read chapter 7.2.3 ("Utilizing Multiple Sound Sources") in the Handbook [1]. -Radek [1] http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/sound-setup.htmL From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 01:12:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A303316A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 01:12:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3198143D1F for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 01:12:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from garciarojas@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so107755wri for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 18:11:59 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=SVDFCikemT2SuPaIiGpBROWKllaDBuDSzW60ksbmvwitAsgKvy0IznvbUd0lbnDNDy0GS+eZG72zEDiulTsZBwB3HrZYMkD8J+0EC7ps8WVFFDxbvMX0sIHXh03rMSnZ1hL9mn4A3VHdRju7iBHgTK7eOoBnnj+Nc5N4FrhwQvE= Received: by 10.38.96.46 with SMTP id t46mr159912rnb; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 18:11:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.78.49 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 18:11:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <397b2cad04102518112c0d4e35@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:11:59 -0500 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Guillermo_Garc=EDa-Rojas?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20041026004950.GH45424@werd> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable References: <20041025202602.0c6835dc.dick@nagual.st> <397b2cad041025174232f38c30@mail.gmail.com> <20041026004950.GH45424@werd> Subject: Re: xmms sounddriver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Guillermo_Garc=EDa-Rojas?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 01:12:00 -0000 :> Thanks!=20 On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 02:49:50 +0200, Radek Kozlowski wr= ote: > On Mon, Oct 25, 2004 at 07:42:14PM -0500, Guillermo Garc=EDa-Rojas wrote: > > I use OSS but when I first run an app that uses sound, and then start > > XMMS, I can no longer use OSS sound driver. It's just like the first > > app locks or blocks the sound device or something like that. >=20 > You might want to read chapter 7.2.3 ("Utilizing Multiple Sound > Sources") in the Handbook [1]. >=20 > -Radek >=20 > [1] http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/sound-setup.htmL >=20 --=20 --- Guillermo Garc=EDa Rojas Covarrubias Director General=20 SoloBSD http://www.solobsd.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 01:47:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84DA916A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 01:47:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web53609.mail.yahoo.com (web53609.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.37.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1D6D643D49 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 01:47:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from flexble2547@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20041026014718.32328.qmail@web53609.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.100.162.26] by web53609.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 18:47:18 PDT Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 18:47:18 -0700 (PDT) From: scott renna To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Dlink-g520 Wireless and WEP more X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 01:47:20 -0000 So I am still having a go at getting this Dlink card to work here's what i got: pluto# ifconfig ath0 inet 192.168.2.180 netmask 255.255.255.0 ssid XXXX wepmode on authmode open wepkey 0x1234567890 ifconfig: SIOCS80211: Invalid argument pluto# ifconfig ath0 inet 192.168.2.180 netmask 255.255.255.0 ssid XXXX wepmode on authmode shared wepkey 0x123456789 ifconfig: SIOCS80211: Invalid argument pluto# ifconfig ath0 remove ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCDIFADDR): Can't assign requested address I can't remove the interface nor configure it. I have tried to connect to a netgear with 128 bit and 64 bit encryption but i think the issue is on the bsd box but i can't figure out what. any ideas? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 02:26:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AFBD16A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 02:26:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCF8543D49 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 02:26:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ahze@ahze.net) Received: from [192.168.1.5] ([68.209.163.3]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.netESMTP <20041026022637.HYOQ2400.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[192.168.1.5]> for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 22:26:37 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <738F95AA-26F6-11D9-BB05-000A958C81C6@ahze.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Johnson Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 22:26:32 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Subject: 10-13" laptop. Where to buy? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 02:26:38 -0000 Hi, I'm looking for a x86 laptop with a 10 to 13" screen but its very hard to find one under 14" anyone have any ideas of where to look? Michael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 02:44:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D181B16A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 02:44:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sage.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56F1643D1D for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 02:44:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao [10.0.0.247]) by sage.thought.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9Q2igh0008938 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 19:44:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thought.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i9Q2hv41096993 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 19:43:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i9Q2hvGg096992 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 19:43:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 19:43:56 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20041026024356.GA96981@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 18 years of service to the Unix community User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: lib/pam problems... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 02:44:01 -0000 I keep getting this from my new 5.3-RELEASE when I try to use xdm: Oct 26 02:30:24 sartre xdm: unable to dlopen(/usr/lib/pam_opie.so) Oct 26 02:30:24 sartre xdm: [dlerror: /usr/lib/libopie.so.3: Undefined symbol "__xuname"] Oct 26 02:30:24 sartre xdm: adding faulty module: /usr/lib/pam_opie.so Oct 26 02:30:24 sartre xdm: unable to dlopen(/usr/lib/pam_opieaccess.so) Oct 26 02:30:24 sartre xdm: [dlerror: /usr/lib/libopie.so.3: Undefined symbol "__xuname"] Oct 26 02:30:24 sartre xdm: adding faulty module: /usr/lib/pam_opieaccess.so Do I need to rebuild a library or is there an easier fix? tia, gents. gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 02:50:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DF0616A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 02:50:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA74043D48 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 02:49:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kjelderg@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so116151wri for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 19:49:59 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=R3sQLzK3Ibfi3B99Dd0T+G2UwwCVm2GI4fTfNerQGplqlkIYig5uef55joezmTjNp5vQU+vCDOIdCKvj9p5D7MR+Mrqf9zKKArVqioheGmAHR+zbR3GqD5dPB1j/4T9VWQPYXMq0HL1a6VW4f5FWZLUfd6bLoKR2/MGwDOSfZCc= Received: by 10.38.82.27 with SMTP id f27mr192055rnb; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 19:49:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.15.69 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 19:49:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 21:49:59 -0500 From: Eric Kjeldergaard To: Michael Johnson In-Reply-To: <738F95AA-26F6-11D9-BB05-000A958C81C6@ahze.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <738F95AA-26F6-11D9-BB05-000A958C81C6@ahze.net> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 10-13" laptop. Where to buy? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eric Kjeldergaard List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 02:50:02 -0000 On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 22:26:32 -0400, Michael Johnson wrote: > Hi, > I'm looking for a x86 laptop with a 10 to 13" screen but its very hard > to find one under 14" > anyone have any ideas of where to look? I recommend the IBM X-series as they are small and still quite sexy. If cost is more of a concern, however, sam's club here in the states (where I'm kind of assuming you are) often has smallish laptops for ~1000USD new. They way in under 5lbs. and are the 12.1 inch screen. -- If I write a signature, my emails will appear more personalised. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 02:57:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E59EE16A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 02:57:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wingfoot.org (caduceus.wingfoot.org [64.32.179.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A0C843D41 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 02:57:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ges+lists@wingfoot.org) Received: from localhost (localhost.wingfoot.org [127.0.0.1]) by wingfoot.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED7F31F4493 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 22:57:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wingfoot.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (wingfoot.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 34529-03 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 22:57:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [64.32.179.50]) by wingfoot.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 926E61F448F for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 22:57:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <417DBD13.7080605@wingfoot.org> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 22:57:23 -0400 From: Glenn Sieb Organization: Wingfoot Organization User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040913 Thunderbird/0.8 Mnenhy/0.6.0.104 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41788EB2.1040508@wingfoot.org> <417AC3C0.6000903@wingfoot.org> In-Reply-To: <417AC3C0.6000903@wingfoot.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at wingfoot.org Subject: Re: Netgear WG511 (no driver attached) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 02:57:53 -0000 Glenn Sieb said the following on 10/23/2004 4:49 PM: > After some digging, and some emails back & forth to Matt Juszczak, I > found this driver: http://green.homeunix.org/~green/prism54-driver/pff/ > > Compiled it, installed it and *puf* my card came up! :) Now... I installed KWirelessMonitor... the graphics come up & such fine... but it can't seem to connect to device pff0... now... funny thing is--the card's in, it's working... but there's no /dev/pff0 My gut says there *should be* a /dev/pff0--right? How do I make this happen.. I've tried adding: perm pff0 0644 To /etc/devfs.conf to (no surprise really) no avail. I'm running 5.3-STABLE [RC1 cvsup'd]. I'm kind of new at adding device drivers & such, so I'm not really sure what I'm doing wrong (or even *if* I'm doing something wrong....) Any help is, as always, greatly appreciated. Thanks! Glenn -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 02:59:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B55E416A4CF for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 02:59:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sage.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2316143D1F for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 02:59:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao [10.0.0.247]) by sage.thought.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9Q2xqh0008981; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 19:59:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thought.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i9Q2x7Os097055; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 19:59:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i9Q2x5RK097054; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 19:59:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 19:59:05 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Kris Kennaway Message-ID: <20041026025905.GA97006@thought.org> References: <1098662488.6793@FoxSurfer.Com> <20041024230040.3c7e3234@localhost> <20041025065347.GA53453@thought.org> <20041025184439.GB54976@xor.obsecurity.org> <20041025185632.GD95850@thought.org> <20041025193304.GB63391@xor.obsecurity.org> <20041025214935.GA96524@thought.org> <20041025230937.GA96806@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041025230937.GA96806@xor.obsecurity.org> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 18 years of service to the Unix community User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: daemon@foxchat.net cc: Gary Kline cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.3 Release X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 02:59:15 -0000 On Mon, Oct 25, 2004 at 04:09:37PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Mon, Oct 25, 2004 at 02:49:35PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 25, 2004 at 12:33:04PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > On Mon, Oct 25, 2004 at 11:56:32AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > > > > > It didn't create a proxy account; or I didn't understand > > > > where/how it did. > > > > > > It's supposed to compare your password files and ask you about adding > > > the extra accounts. > > > > > Strange. mergmaster only asked where to create its /var/tmp > > file. I was upgrading from my 5.2.0 CD that somebody burned > > for me last January. > > > > I'll have to grepthru the script, see why the "-p" flag > > was a no-op. Meanwhile, can you send me the passwd and > > group entries I am supposed to have? > > Just compare to the files in /usr/src/etc > > Kris > > P.S. Your mail server is lame and accuses me of sending you spam. > Please fix. apologies. i thought this was fixed. please send the bounce to my alt email kline@magnesium.net so i can see what i need to do. you are on my relay list in /etc/mail/access: from:kris@obsecurity.org RELAY -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 03:12:04 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D7CC16A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 03:12:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay9-f15.bay9.hotmail.com [64.4.47.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65EAB43D1D for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 03:12:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dead_line@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:12:04 -0700 Received: from 62.150.206.78 by by9fd.bay9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 03:11:27 GMT X-Originating-IP: [62.150.206.78] X-Originating-Email: [dead_line@hotmail.com] X-Sender: dead_line@hotmail.com From: "Long Story" To: eihab@qatar.net.qa Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 03:11:27 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Oct 2004 03:12:04.0218 (UTC) FILETIME=[916D5DA0:01C4BB09] cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pppoa problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 03:12:04 -0000 Hello Eihab, Hello everyone, You rock, it was about mv zzzl_3.012 /usr/local/libdata/mgmt.o But this information you provided i didnot see it anyhwere..how could i know.. THANKS TOO much :) Marwan. >> >>Hello Eihab, Hello Thomas, >> >Hello Marwan :) > >> I found a Zip file called, SpeedTouch330_firmware_3012.Zip >> When I did unzipped this file I found two unknown extention files which >>is zzzl_3.012 >> and kqd6_3.012 and it came to my knowledge from somesite that the file >>zzzl_3.012 >> is for 330 usb speedtouch and that i have to place it in >>/usr/local/libdata/ to be in the same >>directory with mgmt.o, so I did so, and i did a manual modem run >>modem_run -v 1 -m -d /dev/ugen0 -f /usr/local/libdata/mgmt.o >> >>But still complaining from no firmware found in /usr/local/libdata/mgmt.o >> >>Would you please correct my informations please? what additional packages >>files i should install? > >The two files zzzl_3.012 and kqd6_3.012 are different versions of the >firmware for different modem revisions. > >try: "dmesg -a |grep ALCATEL" to see your modem revision. >mine says: ugen0: ALCATEL Speed Touch 330, rev 1.10/2.00, addr 2 > >kqd6_3.012 is for revision 0 and 2, zzzl_3.012 is for revision 4. > >You need to "Replace" mgmt.o with either one of these files, e.g. do a: ># this will over write the old mgmt.o file with this new one. >I didn't have much luck with it though, the connection was shaky. > > >>I downloaded a fresh copy of the file speedmgmt.tar.gz as Eihab said but >>it ask for >>hotplug-2001_01_16.tar.gz I also downloaded that hotplugin and I did >>install it, >>but still the make make install for speedmgmt doesnot work and says >>operator missing.. > >The file speedmgmt.tar.gz contains a few files, you should just copy mgmt.o >from it to your /usr/local/libdata/. > >A list of commands for that would be: ># tar -xzvf speedmgmt.tar.gz >[extracting files] ># cd speedmgmt ># mv mgmt.o /usr/local/libdata/ > >Hope this helped. > >Eihab E. 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Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 03:21:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72CAB16A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 03:21:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx.tele-kom.ru (mx.tele-kom.ru [213.80.148.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E49E943D4C for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 03:20:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from doublef@tele-kom.ru) Received: (qmail 31545 invoked by uid 555); 26 Oct 2004 03:24:18 -0000 Received: from shark (213.80.149.201) by t-k.ru with TeleMail/2 id 1098761058-31516 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 26 Oct 07:24:18 2004 +0400 (MSD) Received: by shark (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 97FAF3B0; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:20:46 +0400 (MSD) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:20:46 +0400 From: Sergey Zaharchenko To: Spades Message-ID: <20041026032046.GA475@shark.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: Sergey Zaharchenko , Spades , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <057501c4ba7d$d65a7fb0$0300a8c0@astral> <20041025133443.GA6371@shark.localdomain> <064801c4ba99$169fcab0$0300a8c0@astral> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="SLDf9lqlvOQaIe6s" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <064801c4ba99$169fcab0$0300a8c0@astral> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Listening-To: /Queen/Bohemian_rhapsody cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipfw flooding in /var/log/ipfw.log X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 03:21:00 -0000 --SLDf9lqlvOQaIe6s Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Oct 25, 2004 at 09:46:53PM +0800, Spades probably wrote: > error: >=20 > # ipfw add 900 allow log all from any to any setup > ipfw: unknown argument ``setup'' >=20 Sorry, `setup' only works with the TCP packets (I missed you used `all' there). `ipfw add 900 allow log tcp from any to any setup' should work. You can't use this with not-connection-oriented protocols, like UDP, and you'll probably have to either add the additional 'allow log udp from any to any' (which will nag you every time the machine does a DNS lookup) or just not log the UDP packets. --=20 DoubleF Talkers are no good doers. -- William Shakespeare, "Henry VI" --SLDf9lqlvOQaIe6s Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBfcKNwo7hT/9lVdwRAqdSAJ4vS11IcDOuichIQ7cU8A5fKX1lJACdEo38 z/+/E/dKzuLE2q/yjq0YMGg= =WTHA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --SLDf9lqlvOQaIe6s-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 03:23:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E85BA16A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 03:23:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from castle.jp.FreeBSD.org (castle.jp.FreeBSD.org [210.226.20.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45F1B43D41 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 03:23:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [::1])i9Q3NN893433 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:23:23 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org) X-User-Agent: Mew/1.94.2 Emacs/21.3 X-FaceAnim: (-O_O-)(O_O- )(_O- )(O- )(- -)( -O)( -O_)( -O_O)(-O_O-) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Dispatcher: imput version 20040704(IM147) Lines: 21 From: Makoto Matsushita To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:23:21 +0900 Message-Id: <20041026122321I.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> Subject: cvs checkout with -r and -D option, is it a bug? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 03:23:25 -0000 Why these two commands differ the result? * works as expected % sudo cvs -R -d /pub/snapshots/cvsup/FreeBSD.cvs checkout -P -D 'Tue Oct 26 00:00:00 JST 2004' -rRELENG_5 src/lib/compat/compat4x.i386/libhistory.so.4.bz2.uu U src/lib/compat/compat4x.i386/libhistory.so.4.bz2.uu * doesn't work % sudo cvs -R -d /pub/snapshots/cvsup/FreeBSD cvs checkout -P -D 'Tue Oct 26 00:00:00 JST 2004' -rRELENG_5 src/lib/compat/compat4x.i386/libc.so.4.bz2.uu cvs checkout: warning: new-born src/lib/compat/compat4x.i386/libc.so.4.bz2.uu has disappeared Note that I cannot checkout libc.so.4.bz2.uu, libc_r.so.4.bz2.uu, and libperl.so.3.bz2.uu in src/lib/compat/compat4x.i386. I'm using cvs(1) bundled with recent 5-stable and/or 6-current, version 1.11.17-FreeBSD. -- - Makoto `MAR' Matsushita From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 03:45:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26B0316A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 03:45:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx.tele-kom.ru (mx.tele-kom.ru [213.80.148.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D4C3143D1F for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 03:45:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from doublef@tele-kom.ru) Received: (qmail 42262 invoked by uid 555); 26 Oct 2004 03:48:45 -0000 Received: from shark (213.80.149.213) by t-k.ru with TeleMail/2 id 1098762522-41595 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 26 Oct 07:48:42 2004 +0400 (MSD) Received: by shark (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E3B393B0; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:44:10 +0400 (MSD) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:44:10 +0400 From: Sergey Zaharchenko To: Nikos Vassiliadis Message-ID: <20041026034409.GB475@shark.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: Sergey Zaharchenko , Nikos Vassiliadis , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Spades References: <057501c4ba7d$d65a7fb0$0300a8c0@astral> <20041025133443.GA6371@shark.localdomain> <064801c4ba99$169fcab0$0300a8c0@astral> <200410251748.00620.nvass@teledome.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="IrhDeMKUP4DT/M7F" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200410251748.00620.nvass@teledome.gr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Listening-To: /Queen/Bohemian_rhapsody cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Spades Subject: Re: ipfw flooding in /var/log/ipfw.log X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 03:45:26 -0000 --IrhDeMKUP4DT/M7F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Oct 25, 2004 at 05:48:00PM +0300, Nikos Vassiliadis probably wrote: > On Monday 25 October 2004 16:46, Spades wrote: > > error: > > > > # ipfw add 900 allow log all from any to any setup > > ipfw: unknown argument ``setup'' >=20 > setup is available only for TCP connections. So > ipfw add allow log logamount 0 tcp from any to any setup > would be the correct one. But this is hardly what > you want to do, since it matches only the three-way > handshake TCP does. The rest of the stream will > be dropped if your last rule(65535) is the default one > (deny ip from any to any) >=20 > This will log every TCP connection setup, and let the rest > of the stream flow: > allow log logamount 0 tcp from any to any setup > allow tcp from any to any >=20 > BUT this is not a firewall setup. It's just a TCP connection > logger. You should do a little reading about TCP/IP, in order > to understand how to setup a firewall. >=20 \From the start of this thread: > I would like to monitor the connections (source IP + destination port) > of all connections to my server, can i use ipfw? I assumed that the OP was familiar with ipfw. BTW, Spades: If you `allow' any packets before that rules, they will not be matched by the rules suggested. In short, IPFW only processes a packet until it matches a allow/deny rule, and then takes action and stops processing. You should add the `log' keyword to any rule where you allow (or deny) a connection. If you use a `count log logamount 0 tcp from any to any setup' before any other rules, you should be logging all the TCP connections while you can later allow or deny in your ruleset. However, that wouldn't be too informative, as it wouldn't say if the connection was accepted. --=20 DoubleF Alexander Graham Bell is alive and well in New York, and still waiting for a dial tone. --IrhDeMKUP4DT/M7F Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBfcgJwo7hT/9lVdwRAtr4AJ44DpfIF9j1ViBuCiX3iRnJ8HdI7gCggjoa MrcCvLpp4ZwS7IRI46kCGOo= =uSg9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --IrhDeMKUP4DT/M7F-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 03:53:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D181016A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 03:53:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A419843D2D for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 03:53:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8C421513DE; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:54:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:54:37 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20041026035437.GA30968@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20041026024356.GA96981@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041026024356.GA96981@thought.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: lib/pam problems... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 03:53:49 -0000 --rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Oct 25, 2004 at 07:43:56PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > I keep getting this from my new 5.3-RELEASE when I try to use > xdm: >=20 > Oct 26 02:30:24 sartre xdm: unable to dlopen(/usr/lib/pam_opie.so) > Oct 26 02:30:24 sartre xdm: [dlerror: /usr/lib/libopie.so.3: Undefined sy= mbol "__xuname"] > Oct 26 02:30:24 sartre xdm: adding faulty module: /usr/lib/pam_opie.so > Oct 26 02:30:24 sartre xdm: unable to dlopen(/usr/lib/pam_opieaccess.so) > Oct 26 02:30:24 sartre xdm: [dlerror: /usr/lib/libopie.so.3: Undefined sy= mbol "__xuname"] > Oct 26 02:30:24 sartre xdm: adding faulty module: /usr/lib/pam_opieaccess= .so >=20 > Do I need to rebuild a library or is there an easier fix? Is your xdm linked to stale (FreeBSD 4.x) libraries? Kris --rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBfcp9Wry0BWjoQKURAlE+AKCkJkVU3ynlroAKgqc9PEI+2U3YHACffiJy 0Alu3kzVJtsKOs23+W7Gx3E= =XILL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 04:09:17 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD6D416A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 04:09:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mxb.rambler.ru (mxb.rambler.ru [81.19.66.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7273943D39 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 04:09:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from skorbets@rambler.ru) Received: from mail5.rambler.ru (mail5.rambler.ru [81.19.66.7]) by mxb.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id A21DB84AAF for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:09:15 +0400 (MSD) Received: from [81.19.66.146] (account skorbets@rambler.ru) by mail5.rambler.ru (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 4.2) with HTTP id 86340027 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:09:15 +0400 From: "Danilka Kutepkin" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser Interface v.4.2 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:09:15 +0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: FTP mirror X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 04:09:17 -0000 I'd like to create an freebsd mirror on my host. My host is connected to the Internet by a very hi perfomance channel, so, I'd like to create a russian mirror of your FTP. What is the summ. size of allfiles on ftp.freebsd.org? What should I do to become a member of your FTP mirror list? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 04:36:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CB7F16A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 04:36:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lithium.webserverdns.com (lithium.webserverdns.com [69.61.32.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECF4143D48 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 04:36:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from info@web-design-database.com) Received: from [207.7.237.247] (helo=pimpsta) by lithium.webserverdns.com with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CMJ4C-0002wK-QK for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:36:17 -0400 From: Web Design Forum - WDD To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:36:08 -0500 X-Mailer: web14908.mail.yahoo.com X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - lithium.webserverdns.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - web-design-database.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Message-Id: <20041026043608.ECF4143D48@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Subject: Web Designers Forum and Directory Starts new contest X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Web Design Forum - WDD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 04:36:09 -0000 To update everyone, we have started our first ever designer contest in the forums. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 04:38:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E8B016A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 04:38:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57E9743D39 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 04:38:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 65so144954wri for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 21:37:56 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=qlbV39kIIWRrBhQiw7tCCaG1EvbbvG3SoVvlCnnNDwh4BoPVlk0sL7aGPgWTVQSMfWL9RytNNCQSsLZ5SjkLkB1k3Rf+yMER4TERqzRB7+zKtVrAnB714Map26pxDy7zo1BDHBXFG4o/fzG8EjBTQ+skQHlFO0ONuHRYV97pYkg= Received: by 10.38.151.24 with SMTP id y24mr159056rnd; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 21:37:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.72.65 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 21:37:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:37:56 +0200 From: Gert Cuykens To: Eric Thornton In-Reply-To: <417D8C33.6080605@nc.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <417D8C33.6080605@nc.rr.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: photoshop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 04:38:00 -0000 Can you do as much with gimp as you can do with photoshop ? On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 19:28:51 -0400, Eric Thornton wrote: > Gert Cuykens wrote: > > > > >What is the best aplication on freebsd for editing pictures ? > >_______________________________________________ > >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > "gimp" is a very powerful photo & graphics suite. > /usr/ports/graphics/gimp will give you version 2. > > -Eric > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 04:52:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88E0416A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 04:52:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from redtick.homeunix.com (adsl-68-89-248-14.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net [68.89.248.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3AE643D41 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 04:52:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from boxend@redtick.homeunix.com) Received: from redtick.homeunix.com (localhost.homeunix.com [127.0.0.1]) i9PIYWTB072093; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:34:32 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from boxend@redtick.homeunix.com) Received: (from boxend@localhost) by redtick.homeunix.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i9PIYW7j072092; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:34:32 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from boxend) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:34:31 -0500 From: Mark To: Steve Warwick Message-ID: <20041025183431.GA72036@redtick.homeunix.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ssh security with hosts.allow X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 04:52:29 -0000 I moved sshd off the standard port of 22, added a AllowUsers line, added a AllowGroups line, added a MaxStartups 8:30:10, I'd say taking the service to a nonstandard port helped more than anything. Logs have not shown an attempt after the move. On Mon, Oct 25, 2004 at 10:38:44AM -0700, Steve Warwick wrote: > Hi All, > > Since implementing a hosts.allow "deny" on SSHD for all but my IP I am > seeing a slew of ssh attempts from overseas. > > My questions are: > > Is a good password and hosts.allow enough to keep out the bad guys? > > Is this normal? (I assume these attempts are automated) > > Thanks > > Steve > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- ============================================================================== The information contained in this communication is confidential, private, proprietary, or otherwise privileged and is intended only for the use of the addressee. Unauthorized use, disclosure, distribution or copying is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. 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Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 18 years of service to the Unix community User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: Gary Kline cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: lib/pam problems... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 04:56:55 -0000 On Mon, Oct 25, 2004 at 08:54:37PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Mon, Oct 25, 2004 at 07:43:56PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > I keep getting this from my new 5.3-RELEASE when I try to use > > xdm: > > > > Oct 26 02:30:24 sartre xdm: [dlerror: /usr/lib/libopie.so.3: Undefined symbol "__xuname"] > > Oct 26 02:30:24 sartre xdm: adding faulty module: /usr/lib/pam_opieaccess.so > > > > Do I need to rebuild a library or is there an easier fix? > > Is your xdm linked to stale (FreeBSD 4.x) libraries? > no, already checked thatt. xfree86 is gone; only xorg binaries are there. also,i moved away pam.conf; it has the same info as pam.d, but just to see... is libopie partof the world? do i need to turn on/off some security feature? gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 05:12:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE26E16A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 05:12:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AEFD43D46 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 05:12:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) i9Q5COq77685; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 22:12:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Matt Staroscik" , Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 22:12:24 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20041025154621.0482d690@wrongcrowd.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Subject: RE: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 05:12:32 -0000 We use the term: "Nuke and repave" I'll have to remember that. Ted > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Matt Staroscik > Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 3:48 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows > > > At 02:59 PM 10/25/2004, you wrote: > >Just a side comment from the peanut gallery... > > > >I was referring to the fact that in most cases, the solution in the end > >most often IS to just reformat and reinstall because there's so much > >cruft/crap/crud in the registry and Windows directories that that is > >the best solution, unless you want to spend an extra couple days trying > >to sort everything out. > > I have been temping at Microsoft for a while now. They have a > term for this > operation: "flatten." > > As in, "CMS2002 is acting up on that box and authoring mode is > broken... we > need to flatten it. It's scheduled for next Monday." > > Here, deep in Mordor, it's a way of life. :) > > - matt > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 05:18:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7A1716A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 05:18:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 849EC43D45 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 05:18:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 65so148095wri for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 22:18:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=oLCdz+38kLqCCoLTn17Uer1AztaOqNO+ga+BShi5Pr/s4o5pFF89bbfAj/8Q44fXknYu0ZMOtZQrV6rvkpyzY4Tys+35dBA5g1DExJbKP2kZvpfAgQupQgvGjsgcF4eE9PpntU14zAev7SKObH/zD0QYrxJQoRHlcDgJepiVZfY= Received: by 10.38.102.69 with SMTP id z69mr169439rnb; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 22:18:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.72.65 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 22:18:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:18:02 +0200 From: Gert Cuykens To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: perl vs php round 1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 05:18:03 -0000 Can you do as much with perl as you can do with php ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 05:36:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB55516A4CF for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 05:36:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bofh.spyderweb.com.au (static-9.235.240.220.dsl.comindico.com.au [220.240.235.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 623FB43D2D for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 05:36:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tim@spyderweb.com.au) Received: from spyderweb.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bofh.spyderweb.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with SMTP id i9Q5aTVp074434 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:06:30 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from tim@spyderweb.com.au) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:06:29 +0930 From: Tim Aslat To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041026150629.6295505a@bofh.spyderweb.com.au> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: Spyderweb Consulting X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12b (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: perl vs php round 1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 05:36:37 -0000 In the immortal words of Gert Cuykens ... > Can you do as much with perl as you can do with php ? Depends on who is doing it. I can do more with Perl than with PHP, but I know someone else who can do more with PHP than Perl. It isn't the language that is the limiting factor, it's the experience/training/skill of the person doing it. It's like asking what weighs more, a kilogram of bricks, or a kilogram of feathers. They are the same, they just look different. Perhaps if you gave us some indication of what you had in mind we could give you more information. Cheers Tim -- Tim Aslat Spyderweb Consulting http://www.spyderweb.com.au Phone: +61 0401088479 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 05:49:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA2D816A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 05:49:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gizmo05bw.bigpond.com (gizmo05bw.bigpond.com [144.140.70.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9311743D2D for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 05:49:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ekeberg@bigpond.net.au) Received: (qmail 16099 invoked from network); 26 Oct 2004 05:49:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO bwmam11.bigpond.com) (144.135.24.100) by gizmo05bw.bigpond.com with SMTP; 26 Oct 2004 05:49:09 -0000 Received: from cpe-144-137-193-146.sa.bigpond.net.au ([144.137.193.146]) by bwmam11.bigpond.com(MAM REL_3_4_2a 174/131940771) with SMTP id 131940771; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:49:09 +1000 From: Hugh Ekeberg To: Gert Cuykens Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:18:47 +0930 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <417D8C33.6080605@nc.rr.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410261518.47337.ekeberg@bigpond.net.au> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: photoshop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 05:49:14 -0000 The important thing I personally need with Photoshop is layers and running effects over those layers. This sort of controll is also found in Gimp. However you gotta realize that Adobe is backed by more money, bigger staff, etc so their product has become more powerfull. Having said that, Gimp is pretty powerfull in its own right and will probably do what you want. Check out http://www.gimp.org/ The spec sheet is at: http://www.gimp.org/about/introduction.html Why not give it a spin? On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:07, Gert Cuykens wrote: > Can you do as much with gimp as you can do with photoshop ? > > On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 19:28:51 -0400, Eric Thornton wrote: > > Gert Cuykens wrote: > > >What is the best aplication on freebsd for editing pictures ? > > >_______________________________________________ > > >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > "gimp" is a very powerful photo & graphics suite. > > /usr/ports/graphics/gimp will give you version 2. > > > > -Eric > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 06:03:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CBB316A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:03:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFD0C43D45 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:03:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 65so151514wri for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:02:08 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=bDIw/gUjjRwcIx/Af5akkxuEMU4NMn1JcCuzFNZ31Jvha3StufUZKX+agKlDuwwsr5ffV0FA5Zdv1fX6yVe+Lj8W2ReaBFmyIlJnxc6pzdrIBC9oyrj4Tp4T8gM+sPT1pqmYT/b17apw/y+XRDeQC8koEALkNAQvsafRIY/x9kY= Received: by 10.38.149.71 with SMTP id w71mr179993rnd; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:02:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.72.65 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:02:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:02:08 +0200 From: Gert Cuykens To: Tim Aslat In-Reply-To: <20041026150629.6295505a@bofh.spyderweb.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20041026150629.6295505a@bofh.spyderweb.com.au> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: perl vs php round 1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:03:52 -0000 i want to learn something that is capable to run applications on the web but is totally separated from the html meaning i HATE doing this hello.php code 110101110101010111101010 code html he look at me html code 1010101011010101010101 code html he look at me html i want to do this hello.class code 10101010101111001110101111111 code hello.html html look at me html And i would defenatly want something with classes So i gues we have php java perl phyton or (asp :P) And NO i am not going to learn all 4 of them, i have only one braincell to put some syntax in and it is going to be frenchphp, dutchjava, chineseperl, or englishphyton. On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:06:29 +0930, Tim Aslat wrote: > In the immortal words of Gert Cuykens ... > > > > Can you do as much with perl as you can do with php ? > > Depends on who is doing it. I can do more with Perl than with PHP, but > I know someone else who can do more with PHP than Perl. It isn't the > language that is the limiting factor, it's the experience/training/skill > of the person doing it. > > It's like asking what weighs more, a kilogram of bricks, or a kilogram > of feathers. They are the same, they just look different. > > Perhaps if you gave us some indication of what you had in mind we could > give you more information. > > Cheers > > Tim > > -- > Tim Aslat > Spyderweb Consulting > http://www.spyderweb.com.au > Phone: +61 0401088479 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 06:11:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 964AA16A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:11:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2718043D2D for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:11:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 65so152154wri for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:11:45 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=DXWwLnOaFCvxGUCJ1mPslzbolxBaQKorjF9Enk9cDlpbVg4AczVwa8cxJTwBhm3gHGk3lyRCnL7+0anX74YazQdwj5q0kW0Df3F4pjz9zO+KZ3sslIWHGCWreU5YRRJUqnFkHIRGdtugDraafpHO0N4fOjqCYUskgbwdMPYrhBM= Received: by 10.38.181.44 with SMTP id d44mr179055rnf; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:11:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.72.65 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:11:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:11:45 +0200 From: Gert Cuykens To: Hugh Ekeberg In-Reply-To: <200410261518.47337.ekeberg@bigpond.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <417D8C33.6080605@nc.rr.com> <200410261518.47337.ekeberg@bigpond.net.au> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: photoshop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:11:46 -0000 I dont know anything about photoshop, i only know i like building websites, and every company i want to work for asks photoshop this flash mx that :( So i want to say to my boss screw photoshop i can do the same with gimp :) Is there a way to translate photoshop files into gimp files and gimp into photoshop files ? PS I can do alot with paint doh :) On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:18:47 +0930, Hugh Ekeberg wrote: > > The important thing I personally need with Photoshop is layers and running > effects over those layers. This sort of controll is also found in Gimp. > > However you gotta realize that Adobe is backed by more money, bigger staff, > etc so their product has become more powerfull. > > Having said that, Gimp is pretty powerfull in its own right and will probably > do what you want. > > Check out http://www.gimp.org/ > The spec sheet is at: http://www.gimp.org/about/introduction.html > > Why not give it a spin? > > > > > On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:07, Gert Cuykens wrote: > > Can you do as much with gimp as you can do with photoshop ? > > > > On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 19:28:51 -0400, Eric Thornton > wrote: > > > Gert Cuykens wrote: > > > >What is the best aplication on freebsd for editing pictures ? > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > "gimp" is a very powerful photo & graphics suite. > > > /usr/ports/graphics/gimp will give you version 2. > > > > > > -Eric > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 06:13:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF9AA16A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:13:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fri.itea.ntnu.no (fri.itea.ntnu.no [129.241.7.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C05C43D41 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:13:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from svein-freebsd-questions@theloosingend.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fri.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2BB9806B for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:13:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mirrorball.thelosingend.net (m069c.studby.ntnu.no [129.241.130.69]) by fri.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:13:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 72620 invoked from network); 26 Oct 2004 06:13:56 -0000 Received: from m190d.studby.ntnu.no (129.241.131.190) by m069c.studby.ntnu.no with QMQP; 26 Oct 2004 06:13:56 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 Oct 2004 06:13:54 -0000 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:13:54 +0200 (CEST) From: Svein Halvor Halvorsen X-X-Sender: sveinhal@maren.thelosingend.net To: Eric Thornton In-Reply-To: <417D32A0.7090807@nc.rr.com> Message-ID: <20041026081154.Q27291@maren.thelosingend.net> References: <417D32A0.7090807@nc.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Content-Scanned: with sophos and spamassassin at mailgw.ntnu.no. cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: refreshing /dev direcotry to show CD tracks X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:13:58 -0000 [Eric Thornton, 2004-10-25] > I'm trying to figure out how to update the /dev directory after inserting a > CD to show the CD's tracks. The /dev direcotry does list the CD tracks > (/dev/acd0t01...02...) but only after i try to access the disk erroneously > through mount /cdrom. I have a shell script that can dump the tracks once > they've appeared, but my script dies when the filenames arent present. Is > there a command that will "refresh" the direcory after CD is inserted? This doesn't give you a general solution to your problem, but issuing # cdcontrol -f /dec/acd0 info ...will work in your specific case. SVein Halvor From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 06:19:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1DB916A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:19:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [195.170.0.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1295F43D3F for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:19:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-b145.otenet.gr [212.205.244.153]) i9Q6Jome017789; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:19:51 +0300 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i9Q6JmLt002220; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:19:48 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id i9Q6Jm9e002219; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:19:48 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:19:48 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Gert Cuykens Message-ID: <20041026061948.GB2122@gothmog.gr> References: <20041026150629.6295505a@bofh.spyderweb.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: perl vs php round 1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:19:53 -0000 On 2004-10-26 08:02, Gert Cuykens wrote: > i want to learn something that is capable to run applications on the > web but is totally separated from the html meaning i HATE doing this > > hello.php > > code > 110101110101010111101010 > code > html > he look at me > html > code > 1010101011010101010101 > code > html > he look at me > html > > i want to do this > > hello.class > code > 10101010101111001110101111111 > code > > hello.html > html > look at me > html > > And i would defenatly want something with classes This can be done just as easily with mod_perl as with php. It all depends on the level of abstraction that you choose to write your HTML pages in. You can write PHP code like this: <?php connect_to_database; grab title; print title; ?> > or use your own templates for the pages you want created, and write one-liners like the ones below: and encapsulate things in larger, logical units within the xxxpage() collection of functions, possibly using classes if you like doing so ;-) It's all a matter of programming style and spending the time necessary to design your sites infrastructure, if you ask me. I've used php for the samples above, but mod_perl can be used too. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 06:19:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A11EB16A4F7 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:19:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 254DA43D2D for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:19:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 65so152659wri for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:19:53 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=AsrhasY+YajoRjZn/mm6LDM+luntItd7O8cGJdJDbUUGlkBhMn5PKumvqZaasU1TMA8N3BPbFC5shnGBJ8WjDQ4o/r6VAIUC67NSmEEC1Wjr6R16mdh5CcVc9VavDGw/V5LpgVOnDvBDpwIYlOj/TOliBC6twj3pvIiOyEvyL4o= Received: by 10.38.151.24 with SMTP id y24mr183916rnd; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:19:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.72.65 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:19:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:19:53 +0200 From: Gert Cuykens To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <0800C9A6-264C-11D9-BB05-000A958C81C6@ahze.net> <26FD3DFA-264E-11D9-BB05-000A958C81C6@ahze.net> <20041025175035.K11535@frambozen.monochrome.org> Subject: Re: flash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:19:57 -0000 goddammit :) 7rxI# make install ===> flashpluginwrapper-0.20021113 is only for i386, and you are running amd64. 7rxI# > On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:57:59 +0200, Gert Cuykens wrote: > > whohoo it works > > > > 7rxI# make deinstall > > ===> Deinstalling for www/flashplugin-firefox > > ===> flashplugin-firefox not installed, skipping > > 7rxI# > > > > > > > > On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:52:36 -0400 (EDT), Chris Hill > > wrote: > > > On Mon, 25 Oct 2004, Gert Cuykens wrote: > > > > > > > how do i unistall /usr/ports/www/flashplugin-firefox ? > > > > Can i remove it with pkg_delete flashplugin-firefox ? > > > > make unistall does not work > > > > > > Try make deinstall. > > > > > > -- > > > Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org > > > ** [ Busy Expunging <|> ] > > > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 06:20:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0142516A4CF for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:20:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1210E43D55 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:20:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) i9Q6K8q77975; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:20:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Micheal Patterson" , , Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:20:08 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <056501c4bab1$c72d9ed0$4df24243@tsgincorporated.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:20:27 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Micheal Patterson [mailto:micheal@tsgincorporated.com] > Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 9:44 AM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt; TM4525@aol.com; stefan@swebase.com > Cc: questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows > > > Honestly, what makes you think that Windows is more complex in it's > administration than a *Nix system? Well, the first thing that makes me think this is because the ISP I work at has an arm of the businesses that is purely Windows techs who companies pay to fix their Windows servers, and I get called in to help fix lots of messes there pretty regularly. (even though I do not have a MCSE myself) I've seen the stuff with my own eyes. It ain't pretty. If you think that administering a Windows server is so simple then answer the following test: How do you lock down an Exchange 5.5 server to prevent a spammer from using it as a relay. I know how to do it. No, it does not involve grubbing around in the registry. No it is not documented, either. I know for a fact that it isn't because I was in the conference call where we had to do it, and the Microsoft support tech himself told us it wasn't documented. > It's common knowledge that Windows is > "easier" to manage. That's one of it's selling points and it always has > been. "Windows is now easier than ever, just point and click". Tell me how > many times have you heard someone say that about any *Nix OS currently > available? > Windows by itself is pretty useless as a server. It only becomes useful when you start adding in all the other crap, like a mailserver (exchange) a terminal server, a backup software, etc. You have obviously never had to sort out a mess with Veritos ie: Seagate Backup on Windows. Backup is so hairy under Windows servers that even Microsoft themselves is afraid or unable to release a backup program with the operating system that backs up open files. And SQL server, Exchange, and any other serious server application ALWAYS has open files under a Windows server. > The human race as a whole, is always looking for something to make doing > something easier for them. That's what drives our desire to contstantly > design new technology. > Hate to wake you with the clue phone but WE don't design new technology. The people who design new technology are the companies that produce it. And they have agendas OTHER than just making your life easier. Such as making money. Why do you think that there's a new version of Microsoft Word every couple years? Can you tell me with a straight face that each new version of Word has made it easier to type a typical business letter? > o Man walked everywhere then he realized, riding a horse was faster and > easier than walking 3 hours. > > o They designed a saddle for the horse because it was easier on > the ass than > barebacking it. > You don't know what you are talking about. Saddles were designed as crutches both for poor riders, and because some horses have bony backs where you need a saddle. They also were designed for utility - so you can carry stuff on saddle bags, and so you can rope cows. If however you ride the SAME horse all the time you will find that most horses are just as comfortable riding bareback as riding in a saddle (keeping in mind that riding a horse, saddle or no, isn't as comfortable as sitting in a car driving) and that you have a lot better feel for what your horse is doing. There are all kinds of benefits to riding bareback, just check out any equestrian sites. It is discussed quite a lot and many people that give it a good try, end up preferring it. And many riders have been doing it long enough that they can run the horse at a gallop, bareback. > o They designed a car because it was easier than riding a horse > and thought > to be faster in it's infancy. > > o Cars were made faster as the years went along because we wanted to get > there faster. > And how much as the car changed in the last, say, 40 years? Besides emissions controls, the major improvements have been safety. The act of driving a vehicle is STILL the same as it was. You could likely take someone 50 years forward in time from 1954 to today and they could get in a car and within a few minutes start driving it. Traffic signage is still pretty much the same, stoplights haven't changed in the last 50 years, we still drive on the right side of the road, etc. We are approaching a new fundamental change in vehicles from the engine stage, with hybrid technology and suchlike. But we are still at least two decades away from widespread adoption of this. And, the controls are not going to change much. > o The airplane was designed because people wanted to leave the ground and > fly to wherever they wanted to go. > >From the passengers point of view, the typical jet has not changed in the last 30 years. > o Helicopters were made because it's easier to land in a field with no > landing strip than to build the runway for a plane. > Choppers have not changed since the 50's other than being more fuel efficient, and having more advanced instrumentation. Oh sure today now most of them are turbo driven instead of piston driven, but the basic design has not changed. > o Computers were made because people got headaches doing complex > calculations and wanted something that could do it for them and > do it faster > as well. > > and so on and so forth. The human race, as a whole, is lazy and always > looking for something to make their lives easier. In this day and age of The cost of something is at least if not more important than how easy it is to use. In fact, the more experienced the people and organizations, the more the cost is important for a technology than the ease of use. You need to understand something about technology. Sure, there are new technologies released all the time. But, each new technology has a pretty basic refinement curve. In the beginning, when it is released, a technology undergoes rapid change, every year great advancements are made. Then as the years pass the law of diminishing returns makes it so that the technology enters a "commodity" phase where the basic design changes little but there are great advancements in getting the cost down. Then eventually that plateaus and the technology has fully matured, and little but minor refinements are seen. The technology then survives in it's final form either forever - such as your saddle - or it gets supplanted by a new technology - as cell phone technology supplanted non cell phone mobile phone technology. When a technology plateaus, the companies that deal ONLY in that technology can only survive if they sell on volume. Such as our automakers. And selling on volume is a game of getting the price cut as low as possible, and just about all R&D is focused on that. If it wern't for emissions controls and CAFE, cars today would not have engine computers, their engine designs would be similar to piston engine designs that are regularly used in aviation today, which haven't changed in 50 years. And they would probably cost a quarter of what they cost today, and a lot more people would be making them. The exception to this is when an entire industry is controlled by a monopoly, as Windows is today. The monopoly of course, does not want to make money on volume, they want to make it on margin. It is a lot easier to run a company when there is some cushion in the product so that if there's a temporary drop of sales you aren't put out of business. (like the automakers nearly were in 2001 when people were so scared due to the poor economy and 911 that they stopped buying cars - that is why 0% interest came out) But, you still need to generate sales and so the way you do it is by loading more and more crap into the commodity product so that people THINK they are getting something new and so are enticed into buying the new-and-improved version. At the same time you take away crap that you loaded into the product earlier. An automaker does this when they add drink holders and remove ash trays, when they add in enormous grills and take away fender skirts, or tail fins, or fake spoilers. Microsoft does this when they add in Active Directory and take away Domain networking, when they add in Pinball and take away Minesweeper. And if while doing this you can somehow entice the customer to get locked into you more, then so much the better. Thus the MCSE mill and Microsoft running around and supporting this mill by telling people to hire MCSE's to work on their Windows servers. > computer technology, MS provides that to us better than *Nix does. Yet, > there are those that are adamant that Windows is more complex > than *Nix is. Windows WAS simpler than UNIX. No longer. You need to get out into the field again, you have been sitting behind a desk managing things for too long. I'd love to see you setup a Active Directory network of any size that contains mixed Windows versions. You would lose a lot of these misguided preconceptions. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 06:23:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8906116A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:23:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from royk.itea.ntnu.no (royk.itea.ntnu.no [129.241.190.230]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AC9A43D2D for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:23:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from svein-freebsd-questions@theloosingend.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by royk.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id F101566CD1 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:23:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mirrorball.thelosingend.net (m069c.studby.ntnu.no [129.241.130.69]) by royk.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:23:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 74905 invoked from network); 26 Oct 2004 06:23:20 -0000 Received: from m190d.studby.ntnu.no (129.241.131.190) by m069c.studby.ntnu.no with QMQP; 26 Oct 2004 06:23:20 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 Oct 2004 06:23:18 -0000 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:23:18 +0200 (CEST) From: Svein Halvor Halvorsen X-X-Sender: sveinhal@maren.thelosingend.net To: Michael Johnson In-Reply-To: <738F95AA-26F6-11D9-BB05-000A958C81C6@ahze.net> Message-ID: <20041026082252.K27291@maren.thelosingend.net> References: <738F95AA-26F6-11D9-BB05-000A958C81C6@ahze.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Content-Scanned: with sophos and spamassassin at mailgw.ntnu.no. cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 10-13" laptop. Where to buy? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:23:22 -0000 [Michael Johnson, 2004-10-25] > I'm looking for a x86 laptop with a 10 to 13" screen but its very > hard to find one under 14" > anyone have any ideas of where to look? I am very happy with my Dell Latitude X300. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 06:27:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12AF916A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:27:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9235A43D5D for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:27:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 65so153224wri for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:27:58 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=lC3rfZpkfylSn6wzUsKMUG2q6Z9EsuUfyQaOPztO2rrIWF/8LGRf6GVpCLDLaPAqNH5kD4ZY2sWuLVFUSNNea3jcFUGmjsKhCu6QLofVdP0shUFrYPjqBJCBoJImMKk3SrJ89I2T4D90OADmrAOIfpiVK5VmE6yVavsEoWouWKo= Received: by 10.38.102.69 with SMTP id z69mr186263rnb; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:27:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.72.65 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:27:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:27:57 +0200 From: Gert Cuykens To: Giorgos Keramidas In-Reply-To: <20041026061948.GB2122@gothmog.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20041026150629.6295505a@bofh.spyderweb.com.au> <20041026061948.GB2122@gothmog.gr> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: perl vs php round 1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:27:59 -0000 Dame you, now i still don't know which one to use PS what about python ? Doesn't google and nasa use python, i wonder why. It has defenatly the coolest name meaning i can make phyton aplications sounds way cooler then perl or php or java :P On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:19:48 +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2004-10-26 08:02, Gert Cuykens wrote: > > i want to learn something that is capable to run applications on the > > web but is totally separated from the html meaning i HATE doing this > > > > hello.php > > > > code > > 110101110101010111101010 > > code > > html > > he look at me > > html > > code > > 1010101011010101010101 > > code > > html > > he look at me > > html > > > > i want to do this > > > > hello.class > > code > > 10101010101111001110101111111 > > code > > > > hello.html > > html > > look at me > > html > > > > And i would defenatly want something with classes > > This can be done just as easily with mod_perl as with php. It all depends on > the level of abstraction that you choose to write your HTML pages in. > > You can write PHP code like this: > > > > <?php connect_to_database; grab title; print title; ?> > > > > mixed with a lot of HTML code and php escapes; ?> > > > > or use your own templates for the pages you want created, and write one-liners > like the ones below: > > > > > > and encapsulate things in larger, logical units within the xxxpage() > collection of functions, possibly using classes if you like doing so ;-) > > It's all a matter of programming style and spending the time necessary to > design your sites infrastructure, if you ask me. I've used php for the > samples above, but mod_perl can be used too. > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 06:32:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDC3216A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:32:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94FA343D58 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:32:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) i9Q6W4q78071; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:32:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Dennis Koegel" , "Philipp Huber" Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:32:04 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20041025082051.GB16445@neveragain.de> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 cc: Graham Bentley cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: GPL vs BSD Licence X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:32:16 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Dennis Koegel > Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 1:21 AM > To: Philipp Huber > > Because Juniper, for example, are perfectly free to decide against > making their changes to the (in this case) FreeBSD code available > anyone at all. You do realize, don't you, that the interesting part of a Juniper is the microcode in their DSP routing engine. FreeBSD is only used to control the routing engine in a Juniper router, it isn't used AS the routing engine. I really doubt that anything Juniper has done to FreeBSD would be of much interest to anyone other than Cisco Systems, and Cisco would only be interested in it as a way of finding out weaknesses in Juniper routers that they could market against. Actually a more interesting example is some of the Linksys routers do indeed use an embedded Linux along with Zebra as the routing engine. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 06:36:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 866A616A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:36:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from osiris.icrt.cu (osiris.icrt.cu [200.55.140.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E27943D1F for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:36:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from texel@trinity.icrt.cu) Received: from icrt.cu (neuromancer.icrt.cu [192.168.250.20]) by osiris.icrt.cu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i9Q6a9GW028737 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 02:36:10 -0400 (CDT) Received: from trinity.icrt.cu ([10.20.0.36]) (authenticated user texel@icrt.cu) by icrt.cu (icrt.cu [127.0.0.1]) (MDaemon.PRO.v6.8.5.R) with ESMTP id 62-md50000000022.tmp for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 02:35:17 -0400 Message-ID: <417DF020.4040506@trinity.icrt.cu> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 02:35:12 -0400 From: "Carlos A. Carnero Delgado" Organization: Instituto Cubano de Radio y Television User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Kennaway References: <417D14C7.5080601@trinity.icrt.cu> <20041025184013.GA54976@xor.obsecurity.org> In-Reply-To: <20041025184013.GA54976@xor.obsecurity.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated-Sender: texel@icrt.cu X-Spam-Processed: icrt.cu, Tue, 26 Oct 2004 02:35:17 -0400 (not processed: message from trusted or authenticated source) X-MDRemoteIP: 10.20.0.36 X-Return-Path: texel@trinity.icrt.cu X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FYI: Time zone information update for Cuba X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: texel@trinity.icrt.cu List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:36:19 -0000 Hello, Kris Kennaway wrote: >>the attached diff updates /usr/src/share/zoneinfo/northamerica for this >>year's unique time handling in Cuba. > > Wasn't an update already committed to -current? Well, AFAICT, there was a recent commit for Brazil and Argentina data. In any case I think that it was impossible for the tzdata maintainer to update since changes in Cuba were just announced. > I'm not sure, but that information should be in the relevant parts of > the source tree that you're already looking at. Yup, it was/is right there! > Kris Thanks a lot, -- Carlos A. Carnero Delgado | carlos@carnero.ca | http://www.carnero.ca From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 06:36:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A4CF16A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:36:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D21443D49 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:36:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-b145.otenet.gr [212.205.244.153]) i9Q6anvd005460; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:36:50 +0300 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i9Q6al9N002388; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:36:47 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id i9Q6alZR002387; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:36:47 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:36:47 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Gert Cuykens Message-ID: <20041026063647.GD2122@gothmog.gr> References: <20041026150629.6295505a@bofh.spyderweb.com.au> <20041026061948.GB2122@gothmog.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: perl vs php round 1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:36:53 -0000 Please don't post your reply on top of the quoted text and trim the quotes instead of including the entire original message verbatim :-/ On 2004-10-26 08:27, Gert Cuykens wrote: > On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:19:48 +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > This can be done just as easily with mod_perl as with php. It all > > depends on the level of abstraction that you choose to write your > > HTML pages in. > > Dame you, now i still don't know which one to use PS what about python > ? Doesn't google and nasa use python, i wonder why. It has defenatly > the coolest name meaning i can make phyton aplications sounds way > cooler then perl or php or java :P I'd appreciate it if you stopped using "damn", "damned", their derivatives or other possibly offensive terms in a mailing list with thousands of subscribers. If you are only learning how PHP or mod_perl works, it doesn't really matter. Learn whatever you find it easier to install and configure. If you have a specific application with specific needs in mind, it would help if you described it in more detail. PS: I am not sure if Python can be embedded in HTML pages. I bet someone has already written a mod_python or something similar for Apache, but I don't use Python so I don't know any details. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 06:50:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85BCB16A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:50:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ADA743D1D for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:50:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 65so155025wri for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:50:10 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=SLVwo6ppnpI1Af2UXL6n7LglodC9K6IcpcHR9/cFIH4jRaNG5GqmlXvCLkeMQvvo5V0kpvmmqZGSnwfXnq/l7rQFqSOVAldRAhqOkTTHO1uUPkXcFLKdaQAg7i5S5My1Wqi0PCOHN6BgJ/HhASB2cxB3iIU+/jalVsjsvigVDBU= Received: by 10.38.102.69 with SMTP id z69mr191373rnb; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:50:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.72.65 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:50:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:50:10 +0200 From: Gert Cuykens To: Giorgos Keramidas In-Reply-To: <20041026063647.GD2122@gothmog.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20041026150629.6295505a@bofh.spyderweb.com.au> <20041026061948.GB2122@gothmog.gr> <20041026063647.GD2122@gothmog.gr> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: perl vs php round 1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:50:11 -0000 ok i will try my best not to use any bad words but sometimes they are really needed to say something :) For example what do you say if you are writing a poem to your girlfriend and suddenly your pc crashes. I bet i would sound something like (*&%^(@%(#%@#%^&*!^%&*$@#_#$ On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:36:47 +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > Please don't post your reply on top of the quoted text and trim the > quotes instead of including the entire original message verbatim :-/ > > On 2004-10-26 08:27, Gert Cuykens wrote: > > On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:19:48 +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > > This can be done just as easily with mod_perl as with php. It all > > > depends on the level of abstraction that you choose to write your > > > HTML pages in. > > > > Dame you, now i still don't know which one to use PS what about python > > ? Doesn't google and nasa use python, i wonder why. It has defenatly > > the coolest name meaning i can make phyton aplications sounds way > > cooler then perl or php or java :P > > I'd appreciate it if you stopped using "damn", "damned", their derivatives or > other possibly offensive terms in a mailing list with thousands of subscribers. > > If you are only learning how PHP or mod_perl works, it doesn't really matter. > Learn whatever you find it easier to install and configure. If you have a > specific application with specific needs in mind, it would help if you > described it in more detail. > > PS: I am not sure if Python can be embedded in HTML pages. I bet someone has > already written a mod_python or something similar for Apache, but I don't use > Python so I don't know any details. > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 06:51:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B4C616A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:51:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hobbit.neveragain.de (neveragain.de [217.69.76.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2573F43D48 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:51:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from amf@hobbit.neveragain.de) Received: from hobbit.neveragain.de (amf@localhost [127.0.0.1]) i9Q6pSSv015197 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:51:28 +0200 Received: (from amf@localhost) by hobbit.neveragain.de (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id i9Q6pS9G015196; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:51:28 +0200 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:51:28 +0200 From: Dennis Koegel To: Ted Mittelstaedt Message-ID: <20041026065128.GA14982@neveragain.de> References: <20041025082051.GB16445@neveragain.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-PGP-KeyID: 0D73E19A User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040722i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.4 (hobbit.neveragain.de [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:51:28 +0200 (CEST) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GPL vs BSD Licence X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:51:31 -0000 On Mon, Oct 25, 2004 at 11:32:04PM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > Because Juniper, for example [...] > > You do realize, don't you, that the interesting part of a Juniper > is the microcode in their DSP routing engine. FreeBSD is only used > to control the routing engine in a Juniper router, it isn't used AS > the routing engine. Of course I do realize that. It was merely an example, apparently not the best one. It's their choice to do or don't, that's all I said. (For terminology: The i386 part with FreeBSD is the routing engine, the awesome hardware is the forwarding engine). And now I need to digest this Linksys + Zebra mixture... ;-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 06:53:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E0AA16A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:53:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dnsmail3.ior.navy.mil (noca.ior.navy.mil [205.56.210.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B42CA43D1F for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:53:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from JohnsoBS@vicksburg.navy.mil) Received: from cg69ubd01.vicksburg.navy.mil ([205.95.65.21]) i9Q6p53x016799; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:51:08 GMT Received: by CG69UBD01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:56:36 +0300 Message-ID: From: JohnsoBS@vicksburg.navy.mil To: gert.cuykens@gmail.com, keramida@ceid.upatras.gr Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:56:36 +0300 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: perl vs php round 1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:53:28 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Gert Cuykens [mailto:gert.cuykens@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 8:50 AM > To: Giorgos Keramidas > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: perl vs php round 1 > > > ok i will try my best not to use any bad words but sometimes they are > really needed to say something :) > > For example what do you say if you are writing a poem to your > girlfriend and suddenly your pc crashes. I bet i would sound something > like (*&%^(@%(#%@#%^&*!^%&*$@#_#$ > > Its also good to stay on topic. And topposting is bad in this list. Please cut any text not needed for responce out and post at the appropriate points in the list to answer or ask questions. "In the best possible future, there will be, no war, no famine, no crime, no sickness, no oppression, no fear, no limits, no shame... and nothing to do." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 06:59:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 046B516A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:59:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3B7F43D3F for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:59:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 65so155654wri for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:59:01 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=FQabBJ3bcRfI7ddg2/XukIeegI7iFK/vLy5LDdvpc9ytPH+lOWubmVC3APHkAbR+pLWMgHjILi7czeXOmYL2q2r7KLDhln038RtHMaozRwcPzRifWXUOzfimCQOQXNJKScLNb0ZodbHb5YZ1+lhzjThpeQ/mD6f5T6uXgFju81g= Received: by 10.38.181.44 with SMTP id d44mr189865rnf; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:59:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.72.65 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:59:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:59:01 +0200 From: Gert Cuykens To: "johnsobs@vicksburg.navy.mil" In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: cc: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: perl vs php round 1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:59:02 -0000 On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:56:36 +0300, johnsobs@vicksburg.navy.mil wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Gert Cuykens [mailto:gert.cuykens@gmail.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 8:50 AM > > To: Giorgos Keramidas > > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: Re: perl vs php round 1 > > > > > > ok i will try my best not to use any bad words but sometimes they are > > really needed to say something :) > > > > For example what do you say if you are writing a poem to your > > girlfriend and suddenly your pc crashes. I bet i would sound something > > like (*&%^(@%(#%@#%^&*!^%&*$@#_#$ > > > > > > Its also good to stay on topic. And topposting is bad in this list. Please > cut > any text not needed for responce out and post at the appropriate points in > the list to answer or ask questions. > > "In the best possible future, there will be, no war, no famine, no crime, no > > sickness, no oppression, no fear, no limits, no shame... and nothing to do." > ok i will type something here in the futher. So what about python is it cool does it like apache From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 07:00:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61D2416A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:00:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bofh.spyderweb.com.au (static-9.235.240.220.dsl.comindico.com.au [220.240.235.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08A7B43D31 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:00:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tim@spyderweb.com.au) Received: from spyderweb.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bofh.spyderweb.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with SMTP id i9Q6age8076209 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:06:42 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from tim@spyderweb.com.au) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:06:42 +0930 From: Tim Aslat To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041026160642.0834f1ed@bofh.spyderweb.com.au> In-Reply-To: References: <20041026150629.6295505a@bofh.spyderweb.com.au> <20041026061948.GB2122@gothmog.gr> Organization: Spyderweb Consulting X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12b (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: perl vs php round 1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:00:46 -0000 In the immortal words of Gert Cuykens ... > Dame you, now i still don't know which one to use PS what about python > ? Doesn't google and nasa use python, i wonder why. It has defenatly > the coolest name meaning i can make phyton aplications sounds way > cooler then perl or php or java :P The simplest answer is, pick one, learn it, then use it. They all have pros and cons. I tend to mix and match with Perl & PHP depending on what I need. If I need web output I use PHP, if I need console output/ background stuff then I use Perl. I suggest that you look at example code from each one, and pick whichever one you understand the most from reading the code. Cheers Tim -- Tim Aslat Spyderweb Consulting http://www.spyderweb.com.au Phone: +61 0401088479 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 07:05:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C83816A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:05:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (joel.tallye.com [216.99.199.78]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21C5543D39 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:05:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lorenl@alzatex.com) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (hosea.tallye.com [127.0.0.1]) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9Q74suQ017801 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:04:55 -0700 Received: (from sttng359@localhost) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10/Submit) id i9Q74sRx017799; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:04:54 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: hosea.tallye.com: sttng359 set sender to lorenl@alzatex.com using -f Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:04:54 -0700 From: "Loren M. Lang" To: Giorgos Keramidas Message-ID: <20041026070454.GD6513@alzatex.com> References: <42734323-2522-11D9-8790-000A95BE58A4@tf7.so-net.ne.jp> <20041023193924.GA52933@gothmog.gr> <20041023214555.GA4233@gothmog.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="DrWhICOqskFTAXiy" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041023214555.GA4233@gothmog.gr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-GPG-Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc X-GPG-Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C cc: John Oxley cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A good IDE for C development? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:05:03 -0000 --DrWhICOqskFTAXiy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 12:45:55AM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2004-10-23 22:52, John Oxley wrote: > > On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 22:39:24 +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > > On 2004-10-24 03:35, Choy Kho Yee wrote: > > > > Hi, I am a student of Computer Science. > > > > I am looking for a good IDE(integrated development environment?) for > > > > developing C programs. Something like netbeans for Java would be go= od. > > > > Since I am still learning, I will mainly develop with source codes. > > > > > > Emacs is perfectly fine for most of this. > > > > Not to start a flame war on which is the better editor, but vim with > > ctags is my way. >=20 > Yeah, I know :-) >=20 > I use both Emacs and vim, with reasonable levels of comfort. I haven't f= ound > a way to convince ctags that it's ok for a tag to appear multiple times (= which > can really be annoying when editing the sources of a kernel, where names = are > *bound* to appear multiple times), but I know what you mean. Are you using exuberant ctags? I've had problems with various other ctags programs choking before, but exuberant has usually worked instead. Now I know that I had some programs with exuberant ctags with the linux kernel before, but I think if exuberant knows all the defines then it should be able to figure out which tag is correct by way of the c pre-processor. By the way, my ide is vim+make+ctags, plus which several add-on vim scripts, I get everything I need including tab completion with preview as your typing the name, a list of functions, defines, global variables on the side of the window and a script to control gdb from with-in vim; what more could I ask for. BTW, the reason I prefer, and recommend using some general editor like vim vs. a full blown ide is convenience. I really like using vim as a text editor and I hate having to learn new keys and everything else when I need to change IDEs. I've had to use tde, dynamic c, and many other IDEs which can't even agree on what key repeats a search. Most IDEs support using and external editor and recognize when a file has changed outside of the editor so using GVim on windoze or Vim on any unix machine has proved much more convenient then any ide I've used. >=20 > When I'm working remotely, on machines that I can't install Emacs, knowin= g how > to do my work with vi/vim is extremely cool too. >=20 > To the original poster. The UNIX way of working on large software projec= ts, a > lot of times, uses a different paradigm from the "all in one" philosophy = of > IDE environments that you might have gotten used to until now. >=20 > There are two parts of working on a software project that are mostly impo= rtant: >=20 > - Source code browsing. > - Building, linking and debugging. >=20 > The first can be done remarkably well on UNIX, without the need for a spe= cial > IDE, once you get used to making the best out of your editor and shell. > A typical example of this is searching for the definition of a particular > variable, function or macro in a large tree. Object browsers integrated = with > the commonly used IDEs help with that. The same can be done with a short= grep > command on UNIX. The need for complicated "search" dialogs that some IDEs > have is non-existent here, in the UNIX world, because we don't need a spe= cial > "integrated" environment to search our files ;-) >=20 > If you use tools like ctags or etags, which John mentioned in the message= I'm > replying to, this can be done even faster. Moving from any file in the k= ernel > tree of FreeBSD to the beginning of the ether_input() function that I > mentioned above is as simple as hitting `ESC .' (that is ESC followed by a > dot). The same can be done in vim with ^] (CTRL + closing bracket). The > entire operation takes a few milliseconds. The same can be done for macr= os, > variables, struct members, enums, typedefs, and a lot of other things. >=20 > The building, linking and debugging of programs can also be done from wit= hin > your editor; modern vi clones like vim and Emacs can compile any program,= keep > a log of the warnings and errors, show the compile output in a buffer, mo= ve > from an error message to the correct line of source, etc. >=20 > You don't *have* to use the editor/IDE to do that though, and this is even > more comfortable at times. >=20 > You mentioned that you're still learning, this is why I wrote this long p= ost. > Since you are learning, you might as well learn to work without the need = for > netbeans, eclipse, kdevelop or whatever :-) >=20 > - Giorgos >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" >=20 >=20 > !DSPAM:417af671155358827913156! >=20 --=20 I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C =20 --DrWhICOqskFTAXiy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBffcW+vN6RuSjKAwRAghQAJsE2UNl0zkYg5CF4PtpoS0we54IXQCeMi9/ 6WWDlMbqZqpcQq/Q1l4sD/Q= =f5bP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --DrWhICOqskFTAXiy-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 07:10:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A798A16A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:10:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from amsfep12-int.chello.nl (nl-ams-slo-l4-01-pip-3.chellonetwork.com [213.46.243.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F016C43D41 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:10:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Danovitsch@Vitsch.net) Received: from Vitsch.net ([212.187.78.35]) by amsfep12-int.chello.nl (InterMail vM.6.01.03.04 201-2131-111-106-20040729) with ESMTP id <20041026071043.CDUX16455.amsfep12-int.chello.nl@Vitsch.net>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:10:43 +0200 Received: from localhost (IDENT:1001@b83007.upc-b.chello.nl [212.83.83.7]) by Vitsch.net (8.12.3p2/8.11.3) with ESMTP id i9Q7AZun043488; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:10:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Danovitsch@Vitsch.net) From: "Daan Vreeken [PA4DAN]" To: scott renna Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:10:37 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.2 References: <20041026014718.32328.qmail@web53609.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20041026014718.32328.qmail@web53609.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410260910.37774.Danovitsch@Vitsch.net> cc: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Dlink-g520 Wireless and WEP more X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:10:47 -0000 On Tuesday 26 October 2004 03:47, scott renna wrote: > So I am still having a go at getting this Dlink card > to work here's what i got: > > pluto# ifconfig ath0 inet 192.168.2.180 netmask > 255.255.255.0 ssid XXXX wepmode on authmode open > wepkey 0x1234567890 > ifconfig: SIOCS80211: Invalid argument Try changing : wepkey 0x1234567890 into : weptxkey 1 wepkey 1:0x1234567890 Which tells the device to use key 1, and then specifies key 1. You need to start the argument of "wepkey" with the key number, it's a bit confusing. > pluto# ifconfig ath0 remove > ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCDIFADDR): Can't assign requested > address > > I can't remove the interface nor configure it. "remove" isn't a valid option to ifconfig. If you want to remove the ip-address you have assigned to ath0, try : ifconfig ath0 delete 192.168.2.180 or ifconfig ath0 delete (to delete all addresses assigned to ath0) > any ideas? Try the above, if something fails, let me (and the list) know. A last tip : You can turn on/off the wireless card by entering : ifconfig ath0 down ifconfig ath0 up grtz, Daan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 07:25:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E85B116A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:25:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EE1F43D4C for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:25:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4CF3A511A7; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:26:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:26:23 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20041026072623.GA64337@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20041026024356.GA96981@thought.org> <20041026035437.GA30968@xor.obsecurity.org> <20041026045647.GA97200@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041026045647.GA97200@thought.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: FreeBSD Mailing List cc: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: lib/pam problems... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:25:33 -0000 --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Oct 25, 2004 at 09:56:47PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > On Mon, Oct 25, 2004 at 08:54:37PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 25, 2004 at 07:43:56PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > > I keep getting this from my new 5.3-RELEASE when I try to use > > > xdm: > > >=20 > > > Oct 26 02:30:24 sartre xdm: [dlerror: /usr/lib/libopie.so.3: Undefine= d symbol "__xuname"] > > > Oct 26 02:30:24 sartre xdm: adding faulty module: /usr/lib/pam_opieac= cess.so > > >=20 > > > Do I need to rebuild a library or is there an easier fix? > >=20 > > Is your xdm linked to stale (FreeBSD 4.x) libraries? > >=20 >=20 > no, already checked thatt. xfree86 is gone; only xorg binaries > are there. also,i moved away pam.conf; it has the same info as > pam.d, but just to see... Can you humour me and run a ldd on the xdm binary? Kris --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBffwfWry0BWjoQKURAr1XAKC9H+yvm66DGLBWGVPwfEqRJN/ScwCg4DjY C6I1kvMI56AEEyGQGkEbsjY= =LHp3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 07:25:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C03B16A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:25:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (joel.tallye.com [216.99.199.78]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65DB543D3F for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:25:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lorenl@alzatex.com) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (hosea.tallye.com [127.0.0.1]) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9Q7PvuQ009447 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:25:57 -0700 Received: (from sttng359@localhost) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10/Submit) id i9Q7PvR4009445 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:25:57 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: hosea.tallye.com: sttng359 set sender to lorenl@alzatex.com using -f Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:25:57 -0700 From: "Loren M. Lang" To: FreeBSD Mailing list Message-ID: <20041026072557.GA29860@alzatex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7AUc2qLy4jB3hD7Z" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-GPG-Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc X-GPG-Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C Subject: Giant Xorg and Performance Issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:25:59 -0000 --7AUc2qLy4jB3hD7Z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have had various performance issues on FreeBSD since I installed 5.2.1 a few months back. Basically, it seems that it's easy to load the system down enough to interrupt xmms playing music which is very bad for me. I'm wondering if 5.2.1 has had lower performance levels than the 4.x line. I've recently upgraded to 5.3-BETA7 and noticed only slight improvements. I usually just run fvwm2 with gkrellm, xmms, and lot's of xterms so I wouldn't think my system should have much issue with that. It's a Pentium3 Celeron 600Mhz with 128 Megs of ram, is my system just under spec? Running a portupgrade in the background usually renders the system unusable for playing music and even running mozilla can sometimes slow the system enought to interrupt the sound. Also, I noticed the following in top: 46142 root 96 0 67268K 24576K RUN 8:04 1.07% 1.07% Xorg 45853 sttng359 96 0 30548K 12112K select 0:35 0.00% 0.00% Xorg Both Xorg servers are logged in as a regular user, the first server was started from kdm and the second from startx. The first one is running my usual fvwm desktop and the second is running kde for a test. Why does the server run from kdm take more ram even with a light desktop? Could my performance problems be related to this causing my system to swap a lot? But even 30 megs for Xorg seems a lot to me since I've run X with fvwm+xterm on a laptop with 48 megs of ram just fine. --=20 I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C =20 --7AUc2qLy4jB3hD7Z Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBffwF+vN6RuSjKAwRAs6wAKDAucFw2dJBdR+/nsvXIf8fExw28gCgv5km bs82RC/wfOS5HY47Uz3HVM4= =srkv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7AUc2qLy4jB3hD7Z-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 07:26:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 444AD16A4FA for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:26:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C7FC43D3F for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:26:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DF98251195; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:27:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:27:34 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: "Carlos A. Carnero Delgado" Message-ID: <20041026072734.GB64337@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <417D14C7.5080601@trinity.icrt.cu> <20041025184013.GA54976@xor.obsecurity.org> <417DF020.4040506@trinity.icrt.cu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="/NkBOFFp2J2Af1nK" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <417DF020.4040506@trinity.icrt.cu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: FYI: Time zone information update for Cuba X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:26:44 -0000 --/NkBOFFp2J2Af1nK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 02:35:12AM -0400, Carlos A. Carnero Delgado wrote: > Hello, >=20 > Kris Kennaway wrote: > >>the attached diff updates /usr/src/share/zoneinfo/northamerica for this= =20 > >>year's unique time handling in Cuba. > > > >Wasn't an update already committed to -current? >=20 > Well, AFAICT, there was a recent commit for Brazil and Argentina data.=20 > In any case I think that it was impossible for the tzdata maintainer to= =20 > update since changes in Cuba were just announced. OK, cool. You also might like to talk to wollman@freeBSD.org who maintains this code in FreeBSD. He might want you to wait for the upstream vendor to incorporate the change and release a new version though. Kris --/NkBOFFp2J2Af1nK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBffxmWry0BWjoQKURAkJ1AKC/cA82lcAfGY677a/KnC6it6CxvQCfUkKH CCQsJPZ+p9fTsaXQP+VsOmw= =BWE3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --/NkBOFFp2J2Af1nK-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 07:39:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9165616A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:39:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sage.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8B0B43D39 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:39:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao [10.0.0.247]) by sage.thought.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9Q7dmh0009699; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:39:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thought.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i9Q7crSa097716; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:38:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i9Q7cpPU097715; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:38:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:38:50 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Kris Kennaway Message-ID: <20041026073850.GA97684@thought.org> References: <20041026024356.GA96981@thought.org> <20041026035437.GA30968@xor.obsecurity.org> <20041026045647.GA97200@thought.org> <20041026072623.GA64337@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041026072623.GA64337@xor.obsecurity.org> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 18 years of service to the Unix community User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: Gary Kline cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: lib/pam problems... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:39:07 -0000 On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 12:26:23AM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > Is your xdm linked to stale (FreeBSD 4.x) libraries? > > > > > > > no, already checked thatt. xfree86 is gone; only xorg binaries > > are there. also,i moved away pam.conf; it has the same info as > > pam.d, but just to see... > > Can you humour me and run a ldd on the xdm binary? > Hm, ahhh, maybe... (!) sure... root@sartre:/etc# ldd `which xdm` /usr/X11R6/bin/xdm: libXpm.so.4 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4 (0x2808c000) libXmu.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6 (0x2809a000) libXt.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x280af000) libSM.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x280f9000) libICE.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x28102000) libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x28119000) libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x28127000) libXau.so.0 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXau.so.0 (0x281e5000) libXdmcp.so.0 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXdmcp.so.0 (0x281e8000) libpam.so.1 => /usr/lib/libpam.so.1 (0x281ec000) libcrypt.so.2 => /lib/libcrypt.so.2 (0x281f6000) libXinerama.so.1 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXinerama.so.1 (0x2820e000) libutil.so.3 => /usr/lib/libutil.so.3 (0x28211000) libxpg4.so.3 => /usr/lib/libxpg4.so.3 (0x2821a000) libc.so.4 => /usr/lib/libc.so.4 (0x2821c000) libXThrStub.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXThrStub.so.6 (0x282b5000) root@sartre:/etc# now lemmee see: would these libs be from ye olde xfree86 group? note that i scotched xfree and imake and then rebuilt xorg. so. dunno. i'm fried and i hear my bed calling:-) gary ps: can't make sense of your bounce (yet). but will. -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 07:42:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E033316A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:42:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7054143D2F for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:42:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 65so158786wri for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:42:38 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=lLszAhThoyGDlyip+/k8etCd0GJtLBa0uc51zYiQCOQd3n7Jmr7E9b8aDG2yQFjreZNuY658UDdGmpub2SkVgYubfCN5Vw05LcYvyTwvwuOJGRwPKPu/3wHnvIHznnW1qR/rE7stRo82/lBuvL0q8rChK8f2Jgy0eSeDkYnlizs= Received: by 10.38.13.79 with SMTP id 79mr203495rnm; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:42:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.72.65 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:42:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:42:38 +0200 From: Gert Cuykens To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: ftp mput X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:42:41 -0000 when i use the ftp comando mput it displays the file i want to put followed by some options [aq?...] where can i find on the freebsd.org site what does options mean ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 07:45:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6864516A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:45:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (joel.tallye.com [216.99.199.78]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B12F643D41 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:45:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lorenl@alzatex.com) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (hosea.tallye.com [127.0.0.1]) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9Q7j8uQ000583 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:45:09 -0700 Received: (from sttng359@localhost) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10/Submit) id i9Q7j8jK000581 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:45:08 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: hosea.tallye.com: sttng359 set sender to lorenl@alzatex.com using -f Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:45:08 -0700 From: "Loren M. Lang" To: FreeBSD Mailing list Message-ID: <20041026074508.GE6513@alzatex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="y2zxS2PfCDLh6JVG" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-GPG-Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc X-GPG-Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C Subject: Creating Packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:45:10 -0000 --y2zxS2PfCDLh6JVG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm trying to figure out the best way to create a package from an already installed port. Yes, I know about make package, but that seems to rely on files that get deleted after doing a make clean so I can't use it without rebuilding a whole new port, but the port may not even be the same version I have installed. Is there an easy way to just create a package from what's in /var/db/pkg/ ? Recently I decided to upgrade from XFree86-4 to Xorg, but I would have prefered to have a backup package of the currently installed XFree86 in case something went wrong. On gentoo, I had a big problem and had to re-compile Xorg, luckily I was able to reinstall a package of XFree86 I made just before the upgrade. I looked through the makefiles to see how ports does the package creation. It looks like it compiles pkg_create with a very long list of arguments including references to file in /var/db/pkg, but it also references files created in the work directory when it built the port, but that's already been deleted so I can't use that. Also, I would like to be able to build a package from a compiled port without installing it first, is that possible or easy? --=20 I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C =20 --y2zxS2PfCDLh6JVG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBfgCE+vN6RuSjKAwRAgVQAJ9yfUNWQZXJdqbEGh4270n5AU9N+wCbBYJW je7rHoo2vbnGRbJv6MVmn3g= =Iq/q -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --y2zxS2PfCDLh6JVG-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 07:46:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09FC916A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:46:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kyoto.meibin.net (kyoto.meibin.net [211.18.246.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FCD943D1F for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:46:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lukek@meibin.net) Received: (qmail 28647 invoked by uid 89); 26 Oct 2004 07:46:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.10.8?) (192.168.10.8) by kyoto.meibin.net with SMTP; 26 Oct 2004 07:46:15 -0000 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:48:20 +0900 From: Luke Kearney To: Gert Cuykens In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <20041026164708.7480.LUKEK@meibin.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.07.01 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ftp mput X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:46:10 -0000 On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:42:38 +0200 Gert Cuykens spake thus: > when i use the ftp comando mput it displays the file i want to put > followed by some options [aq?...] where can i find on the freebsd.org > site what does options mean ? the system has an inbuilt manual try something like man ftp or google for it. HTH LukeK -- Luke Kearney From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 07:49:04 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E231716A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:49:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7230B43D39 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:49:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 65so159322wri for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:49:04 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=ZEQSAb2Q0ifx1goAKMw7qcAKRYGQpoiag8g7M48Kv6dNX2wcEZaQCW8OsbXH/FhuwO6EQ8Q2FTPLEQ6Q1si6ifYBBCRvS4Ixe9p4rDkuuVaiZFQcbvZs9kIsbKv+KX3MsqpTHgDeIfkv051YHkuU02lu5oXW1PpdTYKxbbnmAro= Received: by 10.38.151.24 with SMTP id y24mr204642rnd; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:49:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.72.65 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:49:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:49:03 +0200 From: Gert Cuykens To: Luke Kearney In-Reply-To: <20041026164708.7480.LUKEK@meibin.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20041026164708.7480.LUKEK@meibin.net> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ftp mput X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:49:05 -0000 On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:48:20 +0900, Luke Kearney wrote: > > On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:42:38 +0200 > Gert Cuykens spake thus: > > > > > when i use the ftp comando mput it displays the file i want to put > > followed by some options [aq?...] where can i find on the freebsd.org > > site what does options mean ? > > the system has an inbuilt manual try something like man ftp or google > for it. > > HTH > > LukeK > -- > Luke Kearney > > i know but it doesnt say anything about does options ? mput local-files Expand wild cards in the list of local files given as argu- ments and do a put for each file in the resulting list. See glob for details of filename expansion. Resulting file names will then be processed according to ntrans and nmap settings. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 07:51:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9D1B16A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:51:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D99C43D39 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:51:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) i9Q7p2q78441; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:51:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Graham Bentley" , Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:51:02 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20041025084122.007cdb50@mail.uk2.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Subject: RE: GPL vs BSD Licence X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:51:06 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Graham Bentley > Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 12:41 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: GPL vs BSD Licence > > > > Hi List ! > > Perusing the Internet the other day I came across a short > interview with Linus Torvalds from a while back. He was > asked about the GPL vs BSD Licence. > > As I dont fully understand the development process I was > wondering if anyone could comment on his reply below? > > I (mis?)interpret this as follows :- > > If you use some BSD code in some project that you turn into > proprietry code you just need to include the appropriate > acknowledgement statements - No. Once again, the acknowledgement clause was revoked a long time ago because of bigots like him spouting their mouths. It's ironic that the very idiots that the acknowledgement clause was revoked for still don't understand it's revoked. > but you can exclude > anyone from using that new code / solution. > Yes. Since there's no obligation to publish, that is how this is done. Of course, someone could reverse engineer your code. > With the GPL you are explicitly giving away your right to do this > whilst at the same time leaving a the door open for others if they > want to use your code / solution. > Absolutely wrong. What is ignored is that the GPL contains a loophole - it DOES allow itself to be violated by a very specific person - the code copyright holder. The reason is that the GPL is a license that DOES NOT CHANGE the copyright. In short, if you apply the real live BSD license to your code, you are explicitly transferring your copyright to the Regents of the University of California. The Regents have committed to NOT selling that copyright to some commercial entity. In fact, years ago the Regents actually sold BSD source licenses, Sun and HP were among the licensees, as a way of making money. This was back when CSRG was still viable. Today, there's no commercial viability for the UCB source license, due to the whole issue with the AT&T lawsuit and subsequent BSD Lite release, and also because FreeBSD is really where the action has been at for a long time, not UCB. By contrast the GPL concerns itself with REDISTRIBUTION not copyright. You are free to take your code and release it with a GPL license and your OWN copyright applied. Yes, people can use your GPL-licensed code in their products as long as they make their changes available. But what is frequently forgotten is that YOU are STILL able to license out your code to commercial entities. This is how mySQL makes money. Licensees of the mysql code - and there are more than you think - pay MySQL AB and do NOT make improvements that they make, public under GPL. This financial fact of life is not unknown by most GPL developers. Also note the following in the Linux kernel itself - for example, 2.6.9 in the file COPYING: "Also note that the GPL below is copyrighted by the Free Software Foundation, but the instance of code that it refers to (the Linux kernel) is copyrighted by me and others who actually wrote it." In short, Linus Torvalds owns copyright on the Linux kernel used in Linux. He is legally free to license a copy of the Linux kernel to any commercial entity. Granted, he cannot license out any files of the Linux kernel that he himself didn't write. And of course, an OS is so complex and has so many files, that it would be likely that a purely Linus Torvalds kernel would be unrunnable. (at lest the kernel of today) But in theory he could take his code and license it to some UNIX vendor separately, he is not obligated to license new versions of it under the GPL. Now, you might think "So what, Linus will never do this" But, what if he dies of a heart attack tomorrow? Well, his copyright of Linux is property that will exist for another 70 years. What happens if some company like SCO Group comes along and offers Linus's heirs a million dollars to purchase the Linux kernel copyright? Do you think they wouldn't sell? Sure, the GPL'd version of the kernel is still out there. But, the copyright owner could make hay with the subsequent confusion. These issues are NOT speculative and are NOT unknown by the Free Software Foundation, who is the copyright holder of the GPL license itself. In fact, the FSF advises authors to transfer copyright rights of their work to the FSF to avoid these problems. But, very few have done so. It appears most GPL license proponents who write code they put under the GPL are more than willing to blather on about how great the GPL is, but when it comes to putting their money where their mouth is, they are unwilling to back up what they say. The day that Linuc transfers his Linux copyright to the FSF I will start respecting what he has to say about licensing. Until then, what he is saying is pure bullshit. Ted Mittelstaedt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 07:54:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 864A716A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:54:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BF3243D49 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:54:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 65so159719wri for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:54:44 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=nS1PGCOCZ8LjpPYJ+adijrivc6g42c79SHN2fkhNpK5KgF3XwuAHMjCrQi8Rnpq3F536Szu5z8WYXRLl9xbnx1laYnb6yv6OVt7yFlb3+Fu+C0cRyW7y8ZduS9+OnZr7KuoeSNkk5DnAnSBoVZep7oc+R9cbx7001aNVD9Nv0JM= Received: by 10.38.152.73 with SMTP id z73mr204504rnd; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:54:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.72.65 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:54:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:54:44 +0200 From: Gert Cuykens To: Luke Kearney In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20041026164708.7480.LUKEK@meibin.net> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ftp mput X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:54:45 -0000 On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:49:03 +0200, Gert Cuykens wrote: > On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:48:20 +0900, Luke Kearney wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:42:38 +0200 > > Gert Cuykens spake thus: > > > > > > > > > when i use the ftp comando mput it displays the file i want to put > > > followed by some options [aq?...] where can i find on the freebsd.org > > > site what does options mean ? > > > > the system has an inbuilt manual try something like man ftp or google > > for it. > > > > HTH > > > > LukeK > > -- > > Luke Kearney > > > > > > i know but it doesnt say anything about does options ? > > mput local-files > Expand wild cards in the list of local files given as argu- > ments and do a put for each file in the resulting list. See > glob for details of filename expansion. Resulting file names > will then be processed according to ntrans and nmap settings. > never mind i found it prompt Toggle interactive prompting. Interactive prompting occurs during multiple file transfers to allow the user to selec- tively retrieve or store files. If prompting is turned off (default is on), any mget or mput will transfer all files, and any mdelete will delete all files. When prompting is on, the following commands are available at a prompt: a Answer `yes' to the current file, and automatically answer `yes' to any remaining files for the current command. n Answer `no', and do not transfer the file. p Answer `yes' to the current file, and turn off prompt mode (as is ``prompt off'' had been given). q Terminate the current operation. y Answer `yes', and transfer the file. ? Display a help message. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 07:59:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 018A716A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:59:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AD2E43D2F for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:59:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 65so160042wri for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:59:30 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=G4WdL6xFpLJz6pYdqcvMRPdY/WDFGM3hPyEU5hbFQMGCrximCGQHWac7FXFK045yvtqeoOX8qU/904vNIRiXEP4Hlv/lEq9GH+8ax/RC/74pkyTj83jn9STDgJKZsP1LjUIoEDchgFjQehTqWW3Ydc7jstceKQy8zB/v0Kf3dqM= Received: by 10.38.76.16 with SMTP id y16mr205341rna; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:59:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.72.65 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:59:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:59:30 +0200 From: Gert Cuykens To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: ftp copy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:59:31 -0000 Is there a way to copy one file from a remote directory to a other remote directory ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 08:18:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9149016A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:18:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dave.horsfall.org (mrdavi2.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.75.233]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97C7943D2D for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:18:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by dave.horsfall.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i9Q8I5013026 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:18:05 +1000 (EST) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:18:04 +1000 (EST) From: Dave Horsfall To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20041024095243.GA96795@gothmog.gr> Message-ID: References: <20041015092119.GA93093@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> <20041015092119.GA93093@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> <20041024095243.GA96795@gothmog.gr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: Getting LD_LIBRARY_PATH to work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:18:14 -0000 On Sun, 24 Oct 2004, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > > Meanwhile, back in the real world, we like to be able to help our > > > users by letting them easily post questions. > > > > And nothing's stopping them from doing so. In which real world are you? > > By trimming everything away and replying to just one sentence of the > reply Kris gave, there simply isn't enough context to see what his post > was about. Please keep as much of the original post as necessary when > replying :-) I did; one can look up previous posts. And after a screenful of your post, in turn quoting someone else, I'm afraid that I stopped reading after that... -- Dave From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 08:38:17 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 442CA16A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:38:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (joel.tallye.com [216.99.199.78]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11FB143D31 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:38:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lorenl@alzatex.com) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (hosea.tallye.com [127.0.0.1]) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9Q8cFuQ000821 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 01:38:15 -0700 Received: (from sttng359@localhost) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10/Submit) id i9Q8cEvu000787; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 01:38:14 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: hosea.tallye.com: sttng359 set sender to lorenl@alzatex.com using -f Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 01:38:14 -0700 From: "Loren M. Lang" To: Gert Cuykens Message-ID: <20041026083814.GF6513@alzatex.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="1Ow488MNN9B9o/ov" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-GPG-Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc X-GPG-Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ftp copy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:38:17 -0000 --1Ow488MNN9B9o/ov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 09:59:30AM +0200, Gert Cuykens wrote: > Is there a way to copy one file from a remote directory to a other > remote directory ? Yes, it's a special feature of the ftp protocol to tell Server A to send file to Server B control from Client C while not requiring the data to go through the client. Now, for a program that actually uses that, I'm not sure, seems like ftpcopy might do it in the ports tree. Though, I really think you should be using a more secure protocol like scp or sftp, but I don't know if they support the direct server to server copy like ftp. Anyone else tried it? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" --=20 I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C =20 --1Ow488MNN9B9o/ov Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBfgz2+vN6RuSjKAwRAolgAKC/MX/YY/TbDSSTGj1UGZ0OLJjW3ACdFW1q lO1ZFAnfDjxWMDo5cgZ8b04= =a3Oz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --1Ow488MNN9B9o/ov-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 08:51:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3455616A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:51:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from xxl.rdsbv.ro (xxl.rdsbv.ro [82.77.46.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B72F543D2F for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:51:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from petre.bandac@rdsnet.ro) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by xxl.rdsbv.ro (Postfix) with ESMTP id 273706110 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:53:31 +0300 (EEST) Received: from xxl.rdsbv.ro ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (xxl.rdsbv.ro [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 42200-04 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:53:20 +0300 (EEST) Received: from xxl.rdsbv.ro (localhost.rdsbv.ro [127.0.0.1]) by xxl.rdsbv.ro (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:53:20 +0300 (EEST) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:53:19 +0300 From: Petre Bandac To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20041026115319.5a8f9bf0@xxl.rdsbv.ro> Organization: Romania Data Systems - Brasov Branch X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.1) Y-Originating-Environment: a place full of shit Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at xxl.rdsbv.ro Subject: duplicate ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:51:11 -0000 xxl# pkg_info | grep ruby ruby-1.6.8.2004.07.28 An object-oriented interpreted scripting language ruby-1.8.2.p2_1 An object-oriented interpreted scripting language ruby-bdb1-0.2.1 Ruby interface to Berkeley DB revision 1.8x with full featu ruby-shim-ruby18-1.8.1.p3 A set of Ruby modules to provide Ruby 1.8 functionalities ruby18-bdb1-0.2.2 Ruby interface to Berkeley DB revision 1.8x with full featu xxl# do I really need both the old version of an port and the new one ? for example, if I want to portupgrade amavisd, it requires perl 5.8; can I have 2 versions of perl at the same time ? which one will be the "default" one ? thanks -- Petre Bandac Network Engineer Romania Data Systems - Brasov Branch Tel: +4068474134 Fax: +4068474135 Privileged/Confidential Information may be contained in this message. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 09:10:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7411416A52D for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:10:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (joel.tallye.com [216.99.199.78]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5921643D5C for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:10:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lorenl@alzatex.com) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (hosea.tallye.com [127.0.0.1]) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9Q9AeuQ004053 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 02:10:41 -0700 Received: (from sttng359@localhost) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10/Submit) id i9Q9AZEF004050; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 02:10:35 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: hosea.tallye.com: sttng359 set sender to lorenl@alzatex.com using -f Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 02:10:35 -0700 From: "Loren M. Lang" To: sub01@freeode.co.uk Message-ID: <20041026091035.GG6513@alzatex.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="1XWsVB21DFCvn2e8" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-GPG-Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc X-GPG-Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C cc: pstal@it.teithe.gr cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: searching X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:10:44 -0000 --1XWsVB21DFCvn2e8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 03:43:43PM +0100, John Murphy wrote: > P Stalidis wrote: > >hello, > >I'm trying to find one of the earliest versions of freeBSD... 1.0 would= =20 > >be fine! I'm trying to get an intel i386sx33 with only 1mb of ram, up=20 > >and running again... so any help is welcome > >thanks in advance :) >=20 > There's an ftp search engine at > http://www.freewareweb.com/ftpsearch.shtml > which shows some hits if you search for freebsd-1* >=20 > The oldest version with release notes on the FreeBSD web site is 1.1 > but it says "the 386sx is not recommended" so I wish you luck. >=20 > http://www.freebsd.org/releases/1.1/RELNOTES.FreeBSD I thought FreeBSD 1.x was illegal (or at least a bad idea) to use because of the tainted BSD Lite code. And also, I'm wondering how much bloat does 5.x add that can't be removed with a custom kernel. I know linux 2.6 has a specific section for removing extra features like the new I/O schedulers for embedded devices that couldn't really use it anyways. Is 1.x/2.x really better to use for old hardware? >=20 > --=20 > John. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" >=20 >=20 > !DSPAM:417bc0b7219791736320828! >=20 --=20 I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C =20 --1XWsVB21DFCvn2e8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBfhSL+vN6RuSjKAwRAollAJ9laeM7xzzTqBO8aNrHKb0+j5LzvQCeNIoI wNYpDTYTY2AtbkmQyxRKhBM= =jRJV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --1XWsVB21DFCvn2e8-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 09:17:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B95A016A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:17:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EF1F43D3F for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:17:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) i9Q9HMfd047788 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:17:22 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)i9Q9HLF4047787; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:17:21 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:17:21 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: Danilka Kutepkin Message-ID: <20041026091721.GB11508@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , Danilka Kutepkin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="MfFXiAuoTsnnDAfZ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.5.6 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:17:22 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040904, clamav-milter version 0.75l on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FTP mirror X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:17:28 -0000 --MfFXiAuoTsnnDAfZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 08:09:15AM +0400, Danilka Kutepkin wrote: > I'd like to create an freebsd mirror on my host. My host is connected=20 > to the Internet by a very hi perfomance channel, so, I'd like to=20 > create a russian mirror of your FTP. What is the summ. size of=20 > allfiles on ftp.freebsd.org? What should I do to become a member of=20 > your FTP mirror list? The freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org list covers all aspects of running FreeBSD ftp, www and cvsup mirrors. It's the best place to contact the people you need to in order to set up something like you're proposing. See also what is basically the manual for running a FreeBSD mirror: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/hubs/index.html which will answer your immediate questions. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --MfFXiAuoTsnnDAfZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBfhYhiD657aJF7eIRAqkhAJ95edIDm7EBGHnf0XJrONSAYTb1jwCZAepO B4yAknYaBlz7m+Qeez7uZSk= =BTMw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --MfFXiAuoTsnnDAfZ-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 09:25:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C02516A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:25:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EA7B43D39 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:25:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1])i9Q9PqR5047869 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:25:52 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)i9Q9PqfR047868; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:25:52 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:25:52 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: Gert Cuykens Message-ID: <20041026092552.GC11508@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , Gert Cuykens , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="kfjH4zxOES6UT95V" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.5.6 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:25:52 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040904, clamav-milter version 0.75l on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: perl vs php round 1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:25:57 -0000 --kfjH4zxOES6UT95V Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 07:18:02AM +0200, Gert Cuykens wrote: > Can you do as much with perl as you can do with php ? Yes, in the strict comp. sci. sense of "Turing Completeness" and yes in the practical sense of what modules and extensions exist to help you program stuff. In fact, perl is generally better than PHP for arbitrary tasks, as perl was always intended to be a general purpose language, whereas PHP is still pretty much a web-scripting language (yes, I know you /can/ use PHP for other purposes, but my point still stands). The same goes for any of the other high-level languages you might care to mention: python, ruby, java etc. Which (if any) you prefer is a matter of personal taste. But beware of supporting one or the other of these too vocally on public fora, as the religious wars over "my language is better than your language" tend to be many and bitter. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --kfjH4zxOES6UT95V Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBfhgfiD657aJF7eIRAhtGAKCma3t9UAdiCUH5y94LEoE2/gS4MQCffEbG 34a1d5B2YSdpUOsik5YO6jM= =3TS+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --kfjH4zxOES6UT95V-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 09:29:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A71DE16A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:29:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3329D43D1F for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:29:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226])i9Q9T8Te002094; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:29:09 +0300 Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (orion [127.0.0.1]) i9Q9T8ON001432; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:29:08 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost)i9Q9T8F6001431; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:29:08 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:29:08 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: "Loren M. Lang" Message-ID: <20041026092908.GB833@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <42734323-2522-11D9-8790-000A95BE58A4@tf7.so-net.ne.jp> <20041023193924.GA52933@gothmog.gr> <20041023214555.GA4233@gothmog.gr> <20041026070454.GD6513@alzatex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041026070454.GD6513@alzatex.com> cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: A good IDE for C development? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:29:20 -0000 On 2004-10-26 00:04, "Loren M. Lang" wrote: >On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 12:45:55AM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >>On 2004-10-23 22:52, John Oxley wrote: >>> Not to start a flame war on which is the better editor, but vim with >>> ctags is my way. >> >> Yeah, I know :-) >> >> I use both Emacs and vim, with reasonable levels of comfort. I haven't >> found a way to convince ctags that it's ok for a tag to appear multiple >> times (which can really be annoying when editing the sources of a kernel, >> where names are *bound* to appear multiple times), but I know what you >> mean. > > Are you using exuberant ctags? I've had problems with various other ctags > programs choking before, but exuberant has usually worked instead. Now I > know that I had some programs with exuberant ctags with the linux kernel > before, but I think if exuberant knows all the defines then it should be > able to figure out which tag is correct by way of the c pre-processor. I don't think so. I tried using `/usr/bin/ctags' but being able to do my work with Emacs' support for tags didn't search for other vim-compatible tagging tools. I see now that Exuberant Ctags is available as the devel/ctags port. Perhaps it would be nice to try it out one of these days. Apparently it doesn't even conflict with the /usr/local/bin/ctags executable that comes with Emacs (it's installed as exctags in the same directory). Coolness! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 09:33:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEF6016A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:33:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 965D143D54 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:33:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 65so167914wri for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 02:33:11 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=JHzIzPnuSM5k2phkFBhX9gVwXShnvouAPI8tnFfFt+S6ex6NycD98bIHGdCQNi2oPr0Mp2LQD2og3nosMmJs+vzh59Quja8M7CQkZVoCTlLIHlOiRcRA/OUa/nyCLkiMV2Lx2jdoN3E393Xq+hrYuLxebBtHay/XatbfuPR+cwE= Received: by 10.38.181.44 with SMTP id d44mr226490rnf; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 02:33:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.72.65 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 02:33:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:33:10 +0200 From: Gert Cuykens To: "Loren M. Lang" In-Reply-To: <20041026083814.GF6513@alzatex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20041026083814.GF6513@alzatex.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ftp copy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:33:15 -0000 And can you also duplicate a file from the severA to serverA without going trough client C On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 01:38:14 -0700, Loren M. Lang wrote: > On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 09:59:30AM +0200, Gert Cuykens wrote: > > > > Is there a way to copy one file from a remote directory to a other > > remote directory ? > > Yes, it's a special feature of the ftp protocol to tell Server A to send > file to Server B control from Client C while not requiring the data to > go through the client. Now, for a program that actually uses that, I'm > not sure, seems like ftpcopy might do it in the ports tree. Though, I > really think you should be using a more secure protocol like scp or > sftp, but I don't know if they support the direct server to server copy > like ftp. Anyone else tried it? > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- > I sense much NT in you. > NT leads to Bluescreen. > Bluescreen leads to downtime. > Downtime leads to suffering. > NT is the path to the darkside. > Powerful Unix is. > > Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc > Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 09:37:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1619216A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:37:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32B1E43D1D for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:37:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1])i9Q9bKTn047999 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:37:20 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)i9Q9bKbD047998; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:37:20 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:37:20 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: "Loren M. Lang" Message-ID: <20041026093720.GD11508@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , "Loren M. Lang" , FreeBSD Mailing list References: <20041026074508.GE6513@alzatex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jCrbxBqMcLqd4mOl" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041026074508.GE6513@alzatex.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.5.6 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:37:20 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040904, clamav-milter version 0.75l on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk cc: FreeBSD Mailing list Subject: Re: Creating Packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:37:31 -0000 --jCrbxBqMcLqd4mOl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 12:45:08AM -0700, Loren M. Lang wrote: > I'm trying to figure out the best way to create a package from an > already installed port.=20 Easy. pkg_create -b pkg-name -- read pkg_create(1) for details. > I looked through the makefiles to see how ports does the package > creation. It looks like it compiles pkg_create with a very long list of > arguments including references to file in /var/db/pkg, but it also > references files created in the work directory when it built the port, > but that's already been deleted so I can't use that. Yes -- the ports have to do some processing to generate all of the data that's then stashed in /var/db/pkg. However, once that's in place, pkg_create can just use it straight away to build the pkg. =20 > Also, I would like to be able to build a package from a compiled port > without installing it first, is that possible or easy? This is unfortunately not really feasible. As things are, you've got to install the files etc. belonging to the port into their final locations before you can generate a package from it. The way the package building cluster deals with this problem is to build each port in a dedicated chroot -- see http://pointyhat.freebsd.org/errorlogs/ for a description. That might be something you can adapt to your situation. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --jCrbxBqMcLqd4mOl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBfhrQiD657aJF7eIRAvyxAJ4gt+dnB1IirlGKV5uCfPBGfgYwxgCgjnd3 XhxjDKKTasV83mtCPzlfrkY= =ipzz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jCrbxBqMcLqd4mOl-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 09:38:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8170316A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:38:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns2.wananchi.com (ns2.wananchi.com [62.8.64.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 956D943D41 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:38:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wash@wananchi.com) Received: from wash by ns2.wananchi.com with local (Exim 4.42 #0 (FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE)) id 1CMNmp-0008in-0a by authid for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:38:39 +0300 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:38:38 +0300 From: Odhiambo Washington To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041026093838.GC91555@ns2.wananchi.com> Mail-Followup-To: Odhiambo Washington , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Disclaimer: Any views expressed in this message,where not explicitly attributed otherwise, are mine alone!. X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5.6i (2004-02-01) X-Designation: Systems Administrator, Wananchi Online Ltd. X-Location: Nairobi, KE, East Africa. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: FreeBSD 5.3BETA7 and Disk Woes!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:38:53 -0000 Hello experts, [If I haven't provided any info, please let me know what it is and I will] I have experienced so much problems installing FreeBSD 5.3BETA7 I guess it's time for me to ask the experts. I have two disks: 1. Maxtor (DiamondMax Plus 9) 120GB ATA/133 Mfg Date: 30 Jan 2004 Code: YAR41BW0 E-H011-02-3880 (3.5 SERIES) 2. Western Digital (WD800) EIDE Drive 80GB WD Caviar MDL: WD800LB-00DNA0 Mfg Date: 19 Jan 2004 DCM: HSBHCVJAH Motherboard: VIA VT8233. Those are as much as I can read on the disks. Now my woes: I have tried more than 20 times installing FreeBSD 5.3 on these disks. I have tried this since 5.3BETA1 all the way to 5.3BETA7, hoping at each stage that I will get lucky. Always things fail. After the disk label stage, I choose the minimal distro and commit. That is when I get the message that "I must create at least the root and swap partitions". Ordinarily, I want to install like this (take the 80GB disk): 74GB = / 2GB = swap What I am presented with is just 76GB. Even for the 120 GB disk: 112GB = / 2GB = swap Here what I am presented with is 114GB. The reason I want to partition like that is because I have another old box with 36GB that kinda I managed to install 5.3 on. It's now running 5.3-RELEASE and it was partitioned the same way. I simply want to tar it up, move the tarball to my problematic box and extract, then change a few things in fstab and rc.conf and have a machine to enjoy! Note that during labelling, I have even used the "Auto" option. The thing still fails when it comes to newfs!!! I have left the BIOS setting as AUTO as well as LBA. I have even changed the disk geometry on the partition editor to match what the BIOS thinks is correct. I have even attempted to manually commit my changes at the disk label stage. Whatever I do, the installation does not succeed! I sometimes end up installing, but when it comes to mounting the root partition on reboot (after install finishes), the thing fails. I have even flashed my Award BIOS by getting latest firmware from esupport.com and US $25. That is how much I would like to run 5.3. Someone please tell me that this has nothing to do with the BIOS at all. Winblows apparently has no problems at all installing on these disks, but I hate to use Microshit as a yard stick. What shall I do??? -Wash http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html -- +======================================================================+ |\ _,,,---,,_ | Odhiambo Washington Zzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ | Wananchi Online Ltd. www.wananchi.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-'| Tel: +254 20 313985-9 +254 20 313922 '---''(_/--' `-'\_) | GSM: +254 722 743223 +254 733 744121 +======================================================================+ "Why was I born with such contemporaries?" -- Oscar Wilde From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 09:47:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 535E316A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:47:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (ns0.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EDB743D54 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:47:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1])i9Q9lnqo048119 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:47:49 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)i9Q9lmNG048118; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:47:48 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:47:48 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: Petre Bandac Message-ID: <20041026094748.GE11508@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , Petre Bandac , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20041026115319.5a8f9bf0@xxl.rdsbv.ro> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ytoMbUMiTKPMT3hY" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041026115319.5a8f9bf0@xxl.rdsbv.ro> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.5.6 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:47:49 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040904, clamav-milter version 0.75l on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: duplicate ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:47:54 -0000 --ytoMbUMiTKPMT3hY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 11:53:19AM +0300, Petre Bandac wrote: > xxl# pkg_info | grep ruby > ruby-1.6.8.2004.07.28 An object-oriented interpreted scripting language > ruby-1.8.2.p2_1 An object-oriented interpreted scripting language > ruby-bdb1-0.2.1 Ruby interface to Berkeley DB revision 1.8x with > full featu > ruby-shim-ruby18-1.8.1.p3 A set of Ruby modules to provide Ruby 1.8 > functionalities > ruby18-bdb1-0.2.2 Ruby interface to Berkeley DB revision 1.8x with > full featu > xxl#=20 >=20 >=20 > do I really need both the old version of an port and the new one ? In this instance, no. Certain ports are designed for you to be able to install multiple versions of at the same time (eg. automake, autoconf), but others aren't. Usually you'll find that two versions of the same port end up arguing over which one owns various files: there should be a 'CONFLICTS' entry in the port that stops you installing one over the other in that way, but there's no guarrantee that all of the conflicts settings in the various ports are complete or correct. Generally if you use portupgrade it will remove older versions of ports for you, although there will still be cases requiring manual intervention. =20 > for example, if I want to portupgrade amavisd, it requires perl 5.8; can > I have 2 versions of perl at the same time ? which one will be the > "default" one ? I think it is technically possible to have several different versions of perl installed on one system, but it is rarely done as it leads to a great deal of confusion. The default perl version will be the one for which you last ran 'use.perl port' -- look at the settings that adds to the end of /etc/make.conf to see which that is. I'd advise you to install perl-5.8.5 unless you have a load of business critical perl code that you know won't run under it. Pretty much all of the perl modules and scripts in ports work perfectly under 5.8.5: the same is not true of 5.6.1 or 5.005.04. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --ytoMbUMiTKPMT3hY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBfh1EiD657aJF7eIRAk9hAKCDyhCHFWgHiCaV0i0RqaZ97QUXGQCgj7gW tD65/u4OW4UVNXPnBsj89ZI= =Q5ZQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ytoMbUMiTKPMT3hY-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 09:58:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5420716A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:58:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from galaxy.systems.pipex.net (galaxy.systems.pipex.net [62.241.162.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48E4143D41 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:58:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mark.cullen@dsl.pipex.com) Received: from [10.0.0.247] (81-178-122-12.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.122.12]) by galaxy.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9A19E00022E for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:58:50 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <417E1FDE.3050407@dsl.pipex.com> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:58:54 +0100 From: Mark Cullen User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Serial console weirdness X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:58:53 -0000 Ok, I am having a bit of trouble setting up a serial console login. The cable is attached to com1, heres my /etc/ttys # If console is marked "insecure", then init will ask for the root password # when going to single-user mode. console none unknown off secure # ttyv0 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure # Virtual terminals ttyv1 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure ttyv2 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure ttyv3 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure ttyv4 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure ttyv5 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure ttyv6 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure ttyv7 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure ttyv8 "/usr/X11R6/bin/xdm -nodaemon" xterm off secure # Serial terminals # The 'dialup' keyword identifies dialin lines to login, fingerd etc. ttyd0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.115200" dialup on secure ttyd1 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" dialup off secure ttyd2 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" dialup off secure ttyd3 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" dialup off secure # Dumb console dcons "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" vt100 off secure As you can see I have set ttyd0 to on (and adjusted the speed, but it was the same on 9600 to0) Now, my problem is that when I do a kill -HUP 1 nothing happens; Well, I am sure something happens, it certainly doesn't start getty on that serial port though! However(!) when I start getty manually on that port: /usr/libexec/getty std.9600 ttyd0 It promptly goes into the background and on my other machine I get the login prompt and all is well (until I logout as getty isn't being respawned). I didn't see anything logged as to why it's not working. I will mention that I yanked the (very very broken) graphics card out of that machine, so there's no ttyv's. Do I need to make the serial console my ... console/display for getty to start working again perhaps? Any help would be much appreciated. -- Internet Explorer? Try FireFox at http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ Outlook Express? Try ThunderBird at http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 10:49:51 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B5A316A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:49:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (joel.tallye.com [216.99.199.78]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A20443D45 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:49:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lorenl@alzatex.com) Received: from hosea.tallye.com (hosea.tallye.com [127.0.0.1]) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9QAnnuQ025544 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 03:49:49 -0700 Received: (from sttng359@localhost) by hosea.tallye.com (8.12.8/8.12.10/Submit) id i9QAnmIH025542; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 03:49:48 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: hosea.tallye.com: sttng359 set sender to lorenl@alzatex.com using -f Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 03:49:48 -0700 From: "Loren M. Lang" To: Gert Cuykens Message-ID: <20041026104948.GH6513@alzatex.com> References: <0800C9A6-264C-11D9-BB05-000A958C81C6@ahze.net> <26FD3DFA-264E-11D9-BB05-000A958C81C6@ahze.net> <20041025175035.K11535@frambozen.monochrome.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="3VRmKSg17yJg2MZg" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-GPG-Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc X-GPG-Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: flash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:49:51 -0000 --3VRmKSg17yJg2MZg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 08:19:53AM +0200, Gert Cuykens wrote: > goddammit :) >=20 > 7rxI# make install > =3D=3D=3D> flashpluginwrapper-0.20021113 is only for i386, and you are > running amd64. Isn't amd64 supposed to be fully compatible with i386? Maybe the port just doesn't reconize that fact. The only other thing might be if firefox is compiled as amd64, u might need to recompile it as i386 but don't take my word for it. > 7rxI# > =20 > > On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:57:59 +0200, Gert Cuykens wrote: > > > whohoo it works > > > > > > 7rxI# make deinstall > > > =3D=3D=3D> Deinstalling for www/flashplugin-firefox > > > =3D=3D=3D> flashplugin-firefox not installed, skipping > > > 7rxI# > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:52:36 -0400 (EDT), Chris Hill > > > wrote: > > > > On Mon, 25 Oct 2004, Gert Cuykens wrote: > > > > > > > > > how do i unistall /usr/ports/www/flashplugin-firefox ? > > > > > Can i remove it with pkg_delete flashplugin-firefox ? > > > > > make unistall does not work > > > > > > > > Try make deinstall. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org > > > > ** [ Busy Expunging <|> ] > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" --=20 I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. Public Key: ftp://ftp.tallye.com/pub/lorenl_pubkey.asc Fingerprint: B3B9 D669 69C9 09EC 1BCD 835A FAF3 7A46 E4A3 280C =20 --3VRmKSg17yJg2MZg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBfivM+vN6RuSjKAwRAkgQAJ9EqJ7M2mmAP0ZRouifOzbb1qIPdACeJmu1 zmQ+xq0sjtTIMpgHGyQHfVc= =NNZ9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --3VRmKSg17yJg2MZg-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 13:11:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A94016A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:11:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7C5643D1F for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:11:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from beebum@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so162083wri for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:11:55 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=Rfoewb/HaM+P+0JL6Wiwqia2MvnVjybrTq3S/4DRMW+w4BvX0syTGHOPpzrLZskmtf3jioFckA/LJPAQs5wfpkufn2LbwE7ExNvelINR28wOwuSl7xOPMAiPIZORp5c+7h8Tgo45ipaXZtMVfZeS0c4ZQAqfWzq8QhjRzZT+bvU= Received: by 10.38.65.59 with SMTP id n59mr429526rna; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:11:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.65.76 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:11:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:11:54 -0500 From: terry tyson To: Ted Mittelstaedt In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <056501c4bab1$c72d9ed0$4df24243@tsgincorporated.com> cc: tm4525@aol.com cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: Micheal Patterson cc: stefan@swebase.com Subject: Re: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: terry tyson List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:11:56 -0000 On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:20:08 -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: PMFJI, (especially since I'm a newbie) but I think I understand at least some of what Ted is saying here. I set up a home firewall and later had a hardware failure. I replaced the box and decided to use Mandrake Linux for the firewall because I thought it would be easier to set up. It was easier to set up initially with all the pointy clicky stuff. Then a friend (who knows much more than I do) sniffed the box and warned me that I had holes galore. As I tried to fix the problem it became more difficult than when I was using BSD. I finally installed OpenBSD for the firewall (still use FreeBSD for everything else) and even tho there is a lot to learn I can make it do what I want. I have learned that just because something looks good on the surface, that doesn't mean that it's better. -- Terry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 13:42:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0928716A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:42:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from palrel10.hp.com (palrel10.hp.com [156.153.255.245]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F1A343D2F for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:42:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from thad.butterworth@hp.com) Received: from cacexg12.americas.cpqcorp.net (cacexg12.americas.cpqcorp.net [16.92.1.72]) by palrel10.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85E43154D8; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:42:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from idbexc01.americas.cpqcorp.net ([16.88.97.3]) by cacexg12.americas.cpqcorp.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:42:41 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:42:39 -0600 Message-ID: <2D8BB15C7B5C214F81C32D3A83B32736017B8B8F@idbexc01.americas.cpqcorp.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Re: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows Thread-Index: AcS7YajRV38rXlwxSzqEJT3T8vAsww== From: "Butterworth, Thaddaeus (UI Exploratory)" To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Oct 2004 13:42:41.0351 (UTC) FILETIME=[AA1DAD70:01C4BB61] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:42:42 -0000 I work in a testing environment where I have set up both Windows and *nix type servers. The first time I set up a server it was Exchange 2003 on Windows Server 2003. I was able to figure out how to securely set it up within two hours. On the other hand, setting up ldap on FreeBSD took me two days. All of these needed to connect to various computing platforms, including the embedded systems (using LYNX) that I was testing. I've worked with Windows, *nix, and Mac OS. I've found Mac to be the easiest to work with, Windows second easiest, and the *nix take far more skill than the other two combined. Part of the issue that you are facing from your description of the complications with Windows, comes from trying to make windows do what windows was not designed to do. I don't care what Bill Gates says, none of the windows server environments were ever designed with anything more than simple, small networks in mind. It's part of the culture of MS. They started out with personal computing systems, and then decided that they would get into the server market. They inherently approach all software from a personal computing standpoint. That's why there are so many "undocumented" procedures to make things work the way that they are supposed to. On the other hand, *nix was designed for larger systems and networking, that's why it has been so much harder for the average person to get into. It's not really a matter of what is better for everybody, but what is better for the context that you are working under. I've recommended both Windows and *nix solutions to people. It just depends on who I am talking to. It's the same thing with this subject. I cannot and will not emphatically state that one OS is better than the other. I can tell you which I prefer, but you have to look at the needs of the individual or company and try to determine the right solution from there. If you are having to mess around with undocumented procedures and do all this extra junk just to secure your windows servers, then I would say you need to take a serious look at changing your server OS.=20 For what it's worth, there's my .02. =20 Thad Butterworth =20 =20 =20 =20 >Windows WAS simpler than UNIX. No longer. You need to get out into >the field again, you have been sitting behind a desk managing things >for too long. I'd love to see you setup a Active Directory network of >any size that contains mixed Windows versions. You would lose a lot of >these misguided preconceptions. =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 13:58:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5716016A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:58:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fep4.cogeco.net (smtp.cogeco.net [216.221.81.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E1A243D39 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:58:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bbobowski@cogeco.ca) Received: from [24.150.215.98] (d150-215-98.home.cgocable.net [24.150.215.98]) by fep4.cogeco.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 021BA4E2; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:58:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <417E580E.5060604@cogeco.ca> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:58:38 -0400 From: Brian Bobowski User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040626 Thunderbird/0.7.1 Mnenhy/0.6.0.104 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Petre Bandac References: <20041026115319.5a8f9bf0@xxl.rdsbv.ro> In-Reply-To: <20041026115319.5a8f9bf0@xxl.rdsbv.ro> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD User Questions List Subject: Re: duplicate ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:58:29 -0000 Petre Bandac wrote: >do I really need both the old version of an port and the new one ? > > The specifics of perl have been addressed, but it's worth noting that sometimes, you do. A good example is tk; it's perfectly possible to have multiple versions of it installed because they're installed to different paths and have different names in /usr/bin, and sometimes necessary, because programs that run under one version(say, requires wish8.3) might not work under a later version(wish8.4). If the program isn't specifically referring to a version, it might need to be told which version to use; and in this case, i.e. if a program starts with #! /usr/bin/wish, the versionless command will just advise you to use one with a version. Generally, if an interpreter has two versions in the /same/ ports tree, there's a reason for it. You just might not have any software installed that requires the different versions. Software besides interpreters might have different versions in there for a different reason, and they might not get along, which you'll be told if you try to install both(either directly or as the result of installing something else). -BB From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 13:59:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24C5C16A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:59:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web53606.mail.yahoo.com (web53606.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.37.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AF78743D2D for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:59:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from flexble2547@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20041026135914.88852.qmail@web53606.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.100.162.26] by web53606.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:59:14 PDT Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:59:14 -0700 (PDT) From: scott renna To: "Daan Vreeken [PA4DAN]" In-Reply-To: <200410260910.37774.Danovitsch@Vitsch.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Dlink-g520 Wireless and WEP more X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:59:16 -0000 Here's what I got: This is my ifconfig for this device ath0 before executing a new ifconfig command: pluto# ifconfig ath0 ath0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet6 fe80::20f:3dff:fea9:3645%ath0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 ether 00:0f:3d:a9:36:45 media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect (DS/11Mbps) status: associated ssid XXXX 1:XXXX channel 5 authmode OPEN powersavemode OFF powersavesleep 100 wepmode MIXED weptxkey 1 wepkey 1:40-bit See it says it's associated and has picked up a channel, but no IP! pluto# ifconfig ath0 inet 192.168.2.180 netmask 255.255.255.0 ssid XXXX wepmode on weptxkey 1:0x123456789 ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCAIFADDR): File exists So I gave that command a shot and still looks like an issue. very strange. I've turned the ath0 interface up and back down again several times, any thoughts on why this card can't pull an IP? Note: I'm running MAC Address control on the Wireless router I'm using and ath0 is in there and allowed. Also, I've set the router to use 40 bit WEP encryption and open authentication. I'm not sure this card does 128 bit or if FreeBSD does. any where else I might check for problems? --- "Daan Vreeken [PA4DAN]" wrote: > On Tuesday 26 October 2004 03:47, scott renna wrote: > > So I am still having a go at getting this Dlink > card > > to work here's what i got: > > > > pluto# ifconfig ath0 inet 192.168.2.180 netmask > > 255.255.255.0 ssid XXXX wepmode on authmode open > > wepkey 0x1234567890 > > ifconfig: SIOCS80211: Invalid argument > > Try changing : wepkey 0x1234567890 into : > weptxkey 1 wepkey 1:0x1234567890 > > Which tells the device to use key 1, and then > specifies key 1. > You need to start the argument of "wepkey" with the > key number, it's a bit > confusing. > > > pluto# ifconfig ath0 remove > > ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCDIFADDR): Can't assign > requested > > address > > > > I can't remove the interface nor configure it. > "remove" isn't a valid option to ifconfig. If you > want to remove the > ip-address you have assigned to ath0, try : > ifconfig ath0 delete 192.168.2.180 > or > ifconfig ath0 delete > (to delete all addresses assigned to ath0) > > > any ideas? > Try the above, if something fails, let me (and the > list) know. > > A last tip : > You can turn on/off the wireless card by entering : > ifconfig ath0 down > ifconfig ath0 up > > grtz, > Daan > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 14:06:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95E3116A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:06:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C7C243D2D for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:06:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226])i9QE5r4t024620; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:06:06 +0300 Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (orion [127.0.0.1]) i9QE5mkv001153; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:05:48 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost)i9QE5cV1001152; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:05:38 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:05:38 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: "Butterworth, Thaddaeus (UI Exploratory)" Message-ID: <20041026140538.GA1076@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <2D8BB15C7B5C214F81C32D3A83B32736017B8B8F@idbexc01.americas.cpqcorp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2D8BB15C7B5C214F81C32D3A83B32736017B8B8F@idbexc01.americas.cpqcorp.net> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:06:36 -0000 On 2004-10-26 07:42, "Butterworth, Thaddaeus (UI Exploratory)" wrote: > I work in a testing environment where I have set up both Windows and > *nix type servers. The first time I set up a server it was Exchange 2003 > on Windows Server 2003. I was able to figure out how to securely set it > up within two hours. On the other hand, setting up ldap on FreeBSD took > me two days. All of these needed to connect to various computing > platforms, including the embedded systems (using LYNX) that I was > testing. I've worked with Windows, *nix, and Mac OS. I've found Mac to > be the easiest to work with, Windows second easiest, and the *nix take > far more skill than the other two combined. Part of the issue that you > are facing from your description of the complications with Windows, > comes from trying to make windows do what windows was not designed to > do. > I don't care what Bill Gates says, none of the windows server environments > were ever designed with anything more than simple, small networks in > mind. It's part of the culture of MS. They started out with personal > computing systems, and then decided that they would get into the server > market. They inherently approach all software from a personal computing > standpoint. That's why there are so many "undocumented" procedures to make > things work the way that they are supposed to. Nonsense, if you ask me. For many reasons: a. Windows doesn't work nicely even for small networks most of the time. It's not the size of the network that matters. It's the nature of the network. Homogeneous, Windows-only networks will usually work somehow; not optimally, mind you, but they can be coerced into working. Heterogeneous networking environments, with many different types and versions of operating systems, are not so easy to use from Windows. b. The small-network culture has nothing to do with documentation. Undocumented stuff is undocumented because Microsoft either didn't have the time to document them all (rushing a new release out to gather a few more billion dollars) or -- more importantly -- they don't _want_ them documented, to have an edge over the rest of the software developers. > It's not really a matter of what is better for everybody, but what is > better for the context that you are working under. I've recommended both > Windows and *nix solutions to people. It just depends on who I am talking > to. It's the same thing with this subject. I cannot and will not > emphatically state that one OS is better than the other. I can tell you > which I prefer, but you have to look at the needs of the individual or > company and try to determine the right solution from there. If you are > having to mess around with undocumented procedures and do all this extra > junk just to secure your windows servers, then I would say you need to > take a serious look at changing your server OS. I mostly agree. Then, one day, eventually and also pretty unavoidably, freedom suddenly matters. That's about the same time that Windows starts to feel uncomfortable, with all its undocumented "lock-in" stuff whose only purpose is not to make computing easier but to make more money for Microsoft. If it so happens that some part of the every day experience of the average user is also made easier, it's a happy coincidence in the Microsoft world; not the Ultimate Goal(TM), but not unwelcome either ;-) But this thread reminds me of far too many threads that I've seen this topic discussed to death and beyond, some of them on this list too. So I'll stop writing. - Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 14:39:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC89A16A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:39:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from darkness-is.com (adsl247-146.incentre.net [207.216.247.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7260643D3F for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:39:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cculver@darkness-is.com) Received: from darknessws1 (adsl247-142.incentre.net [207.216.247.142]) by darkness-is.com (darkness-is.com [207.216.247.146]) (MDaemon.PRO.v6.8.5.R) with ESMTP id 46-md50000000016.tmp for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:37:21 -0600 From: "Clay" To: Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:40:07 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcS7abAWpQ08yxPNQLm42aYD7esjoQ== X-MDRemoteIP: 207.216.247.142 X-Return-Path: cculver@darkness-is.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=4.3 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: **** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-Spam-Report: ---- Start SpamAssassin results 4.30 points, 5 required; Message preview: Hi, I would like to know if there are any good How To's out there, to FreeBSD but if the steps are for the most part clear I can get it. Something that goes from the installation of FreeBSD and how to set it up properly to how to download and configure things if using the command line and not X-Windows or similar. [...] Content analysis details: HTML_60_70 (0.1 points) BODY: Message is 60% to 70% HTML HTML_MESSAGE (0.1 points) BODY: HTML included in message MS Outlookisn't ---- End SpamAssassin results X-Spam-Processed: darkness-is.com, Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:37:26 -0600 Message-Id: <20041026143957.7260643D3F@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: [How To] Setting up a http server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:39:58 -0000 Hi, I would like to know if there are any good How To's out there, on setting up a FreeBSD 4.10 server to act as a web server. I am new to FreeBSD but if the steps are for the most part clear I can get it. Something that goes from the installation of FreeBSD and how to set it up properly to how to download and configure things if using the command line and not X-Windows or similar. Clay From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 14:48:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60D3F16A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:48:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from defang8.net.ohio-state.edu (defang8.net.ohio-state.edu [128.146.216.89]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1AF043D46 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:48:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stein.175@osu.edu) Received: from RADIMRES14 (radimres14.med.ohio-state.edu [140.254.8.83]) i9QEmBt6020823; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:48:11 -0400 Message-Id: <200410261448.i9QEmBt6020823@defang8.net.ohio-state.edu> From: "Olaf Stein" To: , "'Clay'" Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:48:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-reply-to: <20041026143957.7260643D3F@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Thread-Index: AcS7abAWpQ08yxPNQLm42aYD7esjoQAAH3OA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-CanItPRO-Stream: default X-Spam-Score: 4.7 (****) FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,MSGID_FROM_MTA_SHORT X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . canit . ca) Subject: RE: [How To] Setting up a http server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:48:22 -0000 After installing apache and needed modules with ports the configuration is not too much different than on a linux or *nix system (main difference is the location off the config files) Unfortunately I do not know any good howto`s that cover every single step or topic I guess you will need to find several ones olaf >I would like to know if there are any good How To's out there, >on setting up a FreeBSD 4.10 server to act as a web server. I am new to >FreeBSD but if the steps are for the most part clear I can get it. >Something >that goes from the installation of FreeBSD and how to set it up properly to >how to download and configure things if using the command line and not >X-Windows or similar. Clay _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 14:49:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2965816A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:49:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD9D343D41 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:49:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nocmonkey@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 65so201521wri for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:49:04 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=Nd5+iTMiOA9TkpHOFwJQMqwfwW7FxPTvOM04E8pk4z9xg2WuzXITQ1l21LrZH9FjXYdxr1STHLae6hszZyRuSqXPnQER3xmWyGPkB8vqtEH8G3pSz+ygyBCXywVEG/oUkY2BpdXzARVywU01W0YkejTuL4T9vQbkxQl99cr8g8A= Received: by 10.38.81.16 with SMTP id e16mr343111rnb; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:49:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.22.79 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:49:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:49:04 -0400 From: Danny To: Clay In-Reply-To: <20041026143957.7260643D3F@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20041026143957.7260643D3F@mx1.FreeBSD.org> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [How To] Setting up a http server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Danny List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:49:08 -0000 On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:40:07 -0600, Clay wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to know if there are any good How To's out there, > on setting up a FreeBSD 4.10 server to act as a web server. Start here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-apache.html http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/apache/2000/02/24/installing_apache.html ...D From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 14:50:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3522516A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:50:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from argent.heraldsnet.org (argent.heraldsnet.org [64.83.41.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F4BE43D31 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:50:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jtrigg@spamcop.net) Received: by argent.heraldsnet.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 31C7B372; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:50:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:50:18 -0400 From: Jim Trigg To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041026145018.GB82343@spamcop.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <0800C9A6-264C-11D9-BB05-000A958C81C6@ahze.net> <26FD3DFA-264E-11D9-BB05-000A958C81C6@ahze.net> <20041025175035.K11535@frambozen.monochrome.org> <20041026104948.GH6513@alzatex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041026104948.GH6513@alzatex.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Habeas-SWE-1: winter into spring X-Habeas-SWE-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-SWE-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). The sender of this X-Habeas-SWE-6: email in exchange for a license for this Habeas X-Habeas-SWE-7: warrant mark warrants that this is a Habeas Compliant X-Habeas-SWE-8: Message (HCM) and not spam. Please report use of this X-Habeas-SWE-9: mark in spam to . Subject: Re: flash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:50:20 -0000 On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 03:49:48AM -0700, Loren M. Lang wrote: > On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 08:19:53AM +0200, Gert Cuykens wrote: > > goddammit :) > > > > 7rxI# make install > > ===> flashpluginwrapper-0.20021113 is only for i386, and you are > > running amd64. > > Isn't amd64 supposed to be fully compatible with i386? Maybe the port > just doesn't reconize that fact. The only other thing might be if > firefox is compiled as amd64, u might need to recompile it as i386 but > don't take my word for it. Yes and no. A single program (for example, mozilla plus plugins) must be entirely either native AMD64 or ix86, not mixed. So you'd need a mozilla (and any needed shared libraries) built for ix86. Jim -- Jim Trigg, Lord High Everything Else O- /"\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN Hostmaster, Huie Kin family website X HELP CURE HTML MAIL Verger, All Saints Church - Sharon Chapel / \ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 14:51:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CBC316A4CF for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:51:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web50607.mail.yahoo.com (web50607.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 36E0A43D60 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:51:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pg@eth1.com) Message-ID: <20041026145107.51856.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [65.96.221.167] by web50607.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:51:07 PDT X-RocketYMMF: kjerstes Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:51:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Peter G To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Opteron problem after recompile is "ffs_mountroot: can't find rootvp" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: pg@eth1.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:51:08 -0000 Generic amd64 kernel boots fine after recompile of 5.2.1 amd64 version on Opteron 146 single proc machine (2GHz) It doesn't mount the root file system the error is: ffs_mountroot: can't find rootvp The Geom list is blank any suggestions? PLS also email your responses to PG_AT_ETH1.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 15:01:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E80F16A4D3 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:01:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from blue.gerhardt-it.com (gw.gerhardt-it.com [204.83.38.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABFAD43D1D for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:01:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scott@g-it.ca) Received: from [192.168.0.101] (hsdbsk204-83-48-41.sasknet.sk.ca [204.83.48.41]) by blue.gerhardt-it.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E50E7FD96; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:01:05 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: References: <20041026150629.6295505a@bofh.spyderweb.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Scott Gerhardt Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:01:03 -0600 To: Gert Cuykens X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: perl vs php round 1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:01:08 -0000 > i want to learn something that is capable to run applications on the > web but is totally separated from the html meaning i HATE doing this > If using PHP then give Smarty a try: http://smarty.php.net/rightforme.php Thanks, -- Scott A. Gerhardt, P.Geo. Gerhardt Information Technologies On Oct 26, 2004, at 12:02 AM, Gert Cuykens wrote: From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 15:06:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBC5D16A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:06:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (imap.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 61D6C43D2F for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:06:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krylon@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 16198 invoked by uid 65534); 26 Oct 2004 15:06:51 -0000 Received: from i538759C1.versanet.de (EHLO [192.168.0.13]) (83.135.89.193) by mail.gmx.net (mp021) with SMTP; 26 Oct 2004 17:06:51 +0200 X-Authenticated: #685629 Message-ID: <417E6804.2080508@gmx.net> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:06:44 +0200 From: Benjamin Walkenhorst User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (X11/20041025) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gert Cuykens References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: perl vs php round 1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:06:56 -0000 Gert Cuykens wrote: >Can you do as much with perl as you can do with php ? >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > I should think so. In fact, I am pretty sure you can do far more with Perl than with PHP... There are so many modules for perl, I think there's hardly anything short of writing a compiler or operating system that cannot be done in perl (and possibly even that)... Or are you referring to web development specifically? In that regard, I think the two are pretty close in terms of what they allow you to do. PHP has a strong plus since it's embeddable in HTML, and a strong minus, because I did not get a debugger to work with it... I for one prefer Perl a lot, since it's really an all-round language whereas PHP was designed with web development in mind; true, nowadays you can also write GUIs in PHP, but it wasn't meant to do that... However, I think - if you are in fact talking about web development - Perl vs. PHP is more a matter of taste (or other circumstances) than a technical one. Kind regards, Benjamin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 15:09:51 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 543C516A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:09:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.sbfnet.com (mail.sbfnet.com [12.18.252.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCC4043D48 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:09:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keving@sbfnet.com) Received: from administrator ([90.1.2.37]) by mail.sbfnet.com (SBF Mail Services) with SMTP id AAE74724; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:09:40 -0700 From: "Kevin Glick" To: "'Michael Johnson'" , Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:09:37 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <738F95AA-26F6-11D9-BB05-000A958C81C6@ahze.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Thread-Index: AcS7A0KbD41cQV/XRQWGa/Di4fZjyAAadSYg X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.59 required=3.00 tests=BAYES_01,NO_RDNS2 version=2.61 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.61 (1.2.2) on mail.sbfnet.com Message-Id: <20041026150947.DCC4043D48@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Subject: RE: 10-13" laptop. Where to buy? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:09:51 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Michael Johnson > Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 7:27 PM > To: questions@freebsd.org > Subject: 10-13" laptop. Where to buy? > > Hi, > I'm looking for a x86 laptop with a 10 to 13" screen but its very > hard > to find one under 14" > anyone have any ideas of where to look? > > Michael Check out Fujitsu's P-series notebooks. 10.2" screen with a max resolution of 1280x768. I've got a 2040 with 5.2.1 running on it. XFree86 is a no-brainer to setup. The new P7000/P7000D are pretty well loaded, compact and light, even with the long-life battery. http://webshop.fujitsupc.com/fpc/Ecommerce/buildseriesbean.do?series=P7 Kevin Glick ITS Manager Sterling Business Forms keving@sbfnet.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 15:10:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A855716A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:10:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from darkness-is.com (adsl247-146.incentre.net [207.216.247.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D2AC43D31 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:10:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cculver@darkness-is.com) Received: from darknessws1 (adsl247-142.incentre.net [207.216.247.142]) by darkness-is.com (darkness-is.com [207.216.247.146]) (MDaemon.PRO.v6.8.5.R) with ESMTP id 2-md50000000017.tmp for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:07:07 -0600 From: "Clay" To: Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:09:53 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcS7aqtq2dSm6a6URnaeYvJ6ESb7XAAAyMIw X-MDRemoteIP: 207.216.247.142 X-Return-Path: cculver@darkness-is.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,IN_REP_TO, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-Spam-Report: ---- Start SpamAssassin results 2.10 points, 5 required; Message preview: Cool thanks ill give those links a look. Clay Content analysis details: IN_REP_TO (-0.5 points) Has a In-Reply-To header email attributionquoted email textMS Outlook REPLY_WITH_QUOTES (-0.5 points) Reply with quoted textisn't ---- End SpamAssassin results X-Spam-Processed: darkness-is.com, Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:07:12 -0600 Message-Id: <20041026151015.4D2AC43D31@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Subject: RE: [How To] Setting up a http server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:10:15 -0000 Cool thanks ill give those links a look. Clay -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Danny Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 8:49 AM To: Clay Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [How To] Setting up a http server On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:40:07 -0600, Clay wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to know if there are any good How To's out there, > on setting up a FreeBSD 4.10 server to act as a web server. Start here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-apache.htm l http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/apache/2000/02/24/installing_apache.html ...D _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 15:15:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 737AA16A4D4 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:15:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B625543D3F for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:15:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nocmonkey@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 65so206160wri for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:15:33 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=LFWjeThiuSKjOq0XcqaVRdHmQHbWNQ33qIZ6NklJG36uzarDRZqDEG+mMbex0Zvh7gwW1e3C5KCaT4q1bTuC68EqrrXE/LEYteYEavf9GeAWMVVRn2zFb0PQnMjmZHHyQ8NBY9GbPm6PpUhOQYeN77xGTPGcWj/kqKt1FJvgTAA= Received: by 10.38.151.24 with SMTP id y24mr347845rnd; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:15:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.22.79 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:15:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:15:33 -0400 From: Danny To: Clay In-Reply-To: <20041026151015.4D2AC43D31@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20041026151015.4D2AC43D31@mx1.FreeBSD.org> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [How To] Setting up a http server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Danny List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:15:40 -0000 On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:09:53 -0600, Clay wrote: > Cool thanks ill give those links a look. Ignore this link, because it focuses on Linux: http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/apache/2000/02/24/installing_apache.html Sorry about that. ...D From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 15:16:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD6B816A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:16:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from amsfep18-int.chello.nl (amsfep18-int.chello.nl [213.46.243.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C78343D2F for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:16:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Danovitsch@Vitsch.net) Received: from Vitsch.net ([212.187.78.35]) by amsfep18-int.chello.nl (InterMail vM.6.01.03.04 201-2131-111-106-20040729) with ESMTP id <20041026151310.VVFA3605.amsfep18-int.chello.nl@Vitsch.net>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:13:10 +0200 Received: from localhost (IDENT:1001@b83007.upc-b.chello.nl [212.83.83.7]) by Vitsch.net (8.12.3p2/8.11.3) with ESMTP id i9QFD4un048730; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:13:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Danovitsch@Vitsch.net) From: "Daan Vreeken [PA4DAN]" To: scott renna Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:13:05 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.2 References: <20041026135914.88852.qmail@web53606.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20041026135914.88852.qmail@web53606.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410261713.05219.Danovitsch@Vitsch.net> cc: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Dlink-g520 Wireless and WEP more X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:16:13 -0000 On Tuesday 26 October 2004 15:59, you wrote: > Here's what I got: > > This is my ifconfig for this device ath0 before > executing a new ifconfig command: > > pluto# ifconfig ath0 > > ath0: > flags=8843 mtu > 1500 > inet6 fe80::20f:3dff:fea9:3645%ath0 prefixlen > 64 scopeid 0x2 > ether 00:0f:3d:a9:36:45 > media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet > autoselect (DS/11Mbps) > status: associated > ssid XXXX 1:XXXX > channel 5 authmode OPEN powersavemode OFF > powersavesleep 100 > wepmode MIXED weptxkey 1 > wepkey 1:40-bit > > See it says it's associated and has picked up a > channel, but no IP! > > pluto# ifconfig ath0 inet 192.168.2.180 netmask > 255.255.255.0 ssid XXXX wepmode on weptxkey > 1:0x123456789 > ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCAIFADDR): File exists ifconfig says this if you already have another interface with an ip-address in the same range. I think you have another interface on your system with an 192.168.2.X ip address. Remove the address from the other interface and try again. grtz, Daan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 15:19:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61C9416A4CF for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:19:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1F1943D53 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:18:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from crumley@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 58so216557wri for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:18:59 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=jNKqmSuM9FDKys2y+sdGa/tVe9poOqGd0byQ+nPTrUK7KSi6JD5TBDzR8KZJ41nRGX8Td4HPmoVNtnJuRwyddon1n4wpbwnH9CAVfqG6+8xoul8aY7wCIo3Mq4wzlMYiZZt/sVdqhSzixy9wfwt031/doEXdUbT4wQ7ri4dAIT0= Received: by 10.38.152.73 with SMTP id z73mr348792rnd; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:18:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.181.73 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:18:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:18:59 -0500 From: Ryan Crumley To: questions@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Unable to mount ufs drive after changing drive order X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ryan Crumley List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:19:00 -0000 I have a FreeBSD 4.9 machine (i386) with 3 hard drives in it. I installed a 4th hard drive and booted the system however this changed the drive numbers (expected since I rearranged their connection order) and fstab refered to the wrong drives so the only drive that was able to be mounted was the root drive. [see the end of the message for dmesg output, fdisk output, and fstab info] I looked at my dmesg output and figured out the mapping between the old drive numbers and the new numbers and tried issueing the command: mount -t ufs /dev/ad5s1c /mnt (this drive used to be ad6 but is now ad5, fstab reads /dev/ad6s1c) and instead of mounting the hard drive on /mnt I get the following error: mount: /dev/ad5s1c: Device not configured So I thought maybe I am confused and this drive is not ad5, maybe its ad6 or ad7... So I tried the same mount command and got: mount: /dev/ad6s1c: Operation not permitted mount: /dev/ad7s1c: Operation not permitted (Either ad5 or ad6 is blank, it is hard for me to tell for sure since they are both the same model of hard drive however I am pretty sure its ad6 that is blank. ad5 and ad7 were both mountable before installing the new hard drive). Next I tried: cd /dev rm ad5* ad6* ad7* sh MAKEDEV ad5 ad6 ad7 and then tried mounting the drives as described above with the same results. At this point I am not sure what to do. Can someone point me in the right direction? Here is my hardware configuration: Computer: k6-3 400mghz 296mb of ram HighPoint HPT370 Raid Controller (motherboard doesn't support ata100 drives so I have a pci card that all the drives plug into) ide connection: all drives are set to cable select and connected to the raid controller card via two cables (so on each channel there is a master and a slave). here is some output from dmesg: atapci1: port 0xb800-0xb8ff,0xb400-0xb403,0 xb000-0xb007,0xac00-0xac03,0xa800-0xa807 irq 10 at device 9.0 on pci0 ata2: at 0xa800 on atapci1 ata3: at 0xb000 on atapci1 [...] ad4: 156334MB [317632/16/63] at ata2-master UDMA100 ad5: 190782MB [387621/16/63] at ata2-slave UDMA100 ad6: 190782MB [387621/16/63] at ata3-master UDMA100 ad7: 76319MB [155061/16/63] at ata3-slave UDMA100 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad4s2a ad4 = root hard drive ad5 = old ad6 ad6 = blank hard drive ad7 = old ad5 It is possible that I have ad5 and ad6 confused since they are the same model of drive however I am pretty sure ad6 is the blank one. Now for some fdisk output: ~$ fdisk /dev/ad5 ******* Working on device /dev/ad5 ******* parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=387621 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl) Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=387621 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl) fdisk: invalid fdisk partition table found Media sector size is 512 Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 Information from DOS bootblock is: The data for partition 1 is: The data for partition 2 is: The data for partition 3 is: The data for partition 4 is: sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 63, size 390721905 (190782 Meg), flag 80 (active) beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1; end: cyl 548/ head 15/ sector 63 ~$ fdisk /dev/ad6 ******* Working on device /dev/ad6 ******* parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=387621 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl) Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=387621 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl) Media sector size is 512 Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 Information from DOS bootblock is: The data for partition 1 is: sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 63, size 390721905 (190782 Meg), flag 80 (active) beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1; end: cyl 548/ head 15/ sector 63 The data for partition 2 is: The data for partition 3 is: The data for partition 4 is: ~$ fdisk /dev/ad7 ******* Working on device /dev/ad7 ******* parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=165398 heads=15 sectors/track=63 (945 blks/cyl) Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=165398 heads=15 sectors/track=63 (945 blks/cyl) Media sector size is 512 Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 Information from DOS bootblock is: The data for partition 1 is: sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 63, size 156301047 (76318 Meg), flag 80 (active) beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1; end: cyl 533/ head 14/ sector 63 The data for partition 2 is: The data for partition 3 is: The data for partition 4 is: ~$ cat /etc/fstab # See the fstab(5) manual page for important information on automatic mounts # of network filesystems before modifying this file. # # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass# /dev/ad4s1b none swap sw 0 0 /dev/ad4s2a / ufs rw 1 1 #/dev/ad6s1c /1 ufs rw 1 1 #/dev/ad5s1c /2 ufs rw 1 1 (I have commented out the drive drives that are not mounting due to their drive numbers changing, this worked before rearranging the disks and installing a new disk). Thanks! ryan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 15:38:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A14AA16A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:38:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web53609.mail.yahoo.com (web53609.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.37.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4B0E443D49 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:38:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from flexble2547@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20041026153838.32374.qmail@web53609.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.100.162.26] by web53609.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:38:38 PDT Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:38:38 -0700 (PDT) From: scott renna To: "Daan Vreeken [PA4DAN]" In-Reply-To: <200410261713.05219.Danovitsch@Vitsch.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Dlink-g520 Wireless and WEP more X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:38:39 -0000 ok, well this system has a 3com, xl0 holding an ip of 192.168.2.150 Does this mean that I need to have each interface having an IP on a different subnet? maybe I could change the mask on the xl0 to 255.255.248.0 and it might work? I wanted to have the wireless card on the same subnet as the rest of the LAN and keep the wired card up and running just for testing before permanently migrating to this wireless card(i'm using encrypted protocols locally so wep weaknesses should not be an issue). is there a way to have both cards be on the same subnet and have the same subnet mask? --- "Daan Vreeken [PA4DAN]" wrote: > On Tuesday 26 October 2004 15:59, you wrote: > > Here's what I got: > > > > This is my ifconfig for this device ath0 before > > executing a new ifconfig command: > > > > pluto# ifconfig ath0 > > > > ath0: > > flags=8843 > mtu > > 1500 > > inet6 fe80::20f:3dff:fea9:3645%ath0 > prefixlen > > 64 scopeid 0x2 > > ether 00:0f:3d:a9:36:45 > > media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet > > autoselect (DS/11Mbps) > > status: associated > > ssid XXXX 1:XXXX > > channel 5 authmode OPEN powersavemode OFF > > powersavesleep 100 > > wepmode MIXED weptxkey 1 > > wepkey 1:40-bit > > > > See it says it's associated and has picked up a > > channel, but no IP! > > > > pluto# ifconfig ath0 inet 192.168.2.180 netmask > > 255.255.255.0 ssid XXXX wepmode on weptxkey > > 1:0x123456789 > > ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCAIFADDR): File exists > > ifconfig says this if you already have another > interface with an ip-address in > the same range. I think you have another interface > on your system with an > 192.168.2.X ip address. Remove the address from the > other interface and try > again. > > grtz, > Daan > > _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Express yourself with Y! Messenger! Free. Download now. http://messenger.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 15:42:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5DA116A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:42:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from galaxy.systems.pipex.net (galaxy.systems.pipex.net [62.241.162.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A75E043D41 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:42:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mark.cullen@dsl.pipex.com) Received: from [10.0.0.247] (81-178-122-12.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.122.12]) by galaxy.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 941FDE000301; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:42:03 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <417E7050.4070208@dsl.pipex.com> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:42:08 +0100 From: Mark Cullen User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <417E1FDE.3050407@dsl.pipex.com> <417E30F4.8060903@comptek.ru> In-Reply-To: <417E30F4.8060903@comptek.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Artem Kazakov Subject: Re: Serial console weirdness X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:42:06 -0000 Artem Kazakov wrote: > Mark Cullen wrote: > >>Ok, I am having a bit of trouble setting up a serial console login. The >>cable is attached to com1, heres my /etc/ttys >> >># The 'dialup' keyword identifies dialin lines to login, fingerd etc. >>ttyd0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.115200" dialup on secure >> >> >>Now, my problem is that when I do a kill -HUP 1 nothing happens; Well, I >>am sure something happens, it certainly doesn't start getty on that >>serial port though! However(!) when I start getty manually on that port: >> >>/usr/libexec/getty std.9600 ttyd0 >> >>It promptly goes into the background and on my other machine I get the >>login prompt and all is well (until I logout as getty isn't being >>respawned). I didn't see anything logged as to why it's not working. >> >>I will mention that I yanked the (very very broken) graphics card out of >>that machine, so there's no ttyv's. Do I need to make the serial console >>my ... console/display for getty to start working again perhaps? >> >>Any help would be much appreciated. > > probably you need to change dialup with something (like vt100) sutable > your enviroment > I have tried cons25, xterm and (now) vt100. It's not that... # Serial terminals # The 'dialup' keyword identifies dialin lines to login, fingerd etc. ttyd0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.115200" cons25 on secure ttyd1 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" dialup off secure ttyd2 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" dialup off secure ttyd3 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" dialup off secure # Dumb console dcons "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" vt100 off secure # Pseudo terminals ttyp0 none network /etc/ttys: 307 lines, 7539 characters (root|bone)/home/mrboo# kill -HUP 1 (root|bone)/home/mrboo# ps ax | grep getty 21134 p0 R+ 0:00.02 grep getty (root|bone)/home/mrboo# Note: I have no getty processes as there's no graphics card, so I am guessing if it was working right I would start to see a: /usr/libexec/getty std.115200 ttyd0 It appears in the process list (and works) when I run the above manually! -- Internet Explorer? Try FireFox at http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ Outlook Express? Try ThunderBird at http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 15:46:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 682FE16A4D0 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:46:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ylpvm01.prodigy.net (ylpvm01-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.57.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B25B143D39 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:46:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rick@jsrinc.org) Received: from maria (adsl-67-115-225-138.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [67.115.225.138])i9QFkUct003792 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:46:31 -0400 From: "Rick" To: Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:37:44 -0700 Message-ID: <000201c4bb71$bd1fe860$6d01a8c0@jsrinc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: Scrub Vendor X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: rick@jsrinc.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:46:32 -0000 T.W.I.M.C. If I have sent this by mistake please disregard. I am looking to find a Medical Scrub Uniform vendor, if you can help please contact me. Thanks, Rick Navarro (310)523-9055 rick@jsrinc.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 15:53:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CE4D16A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:53:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from core0.adn-services.com (core0.adn-services.com [82.112.100.181]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DC5643D2F for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:53:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gadnet@aqueos.com) Received: from [10.27.27.27] (lns-th2-4f-81-56-179-201.adsl.proxad.net [81.56.179.201]) (authenticated bits=0)i9QFrOUb015341; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:53:24 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <417E72F4.6090702@aqueos.com> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:53:24 +0200 From: ADNET Ghislain Organization: AQUEOS User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040803 Thunderbird/0.7.3 Mnenhy/0.6.0.104 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version 0.75.1, clamav-milter version 0.75c on core0.adn-services.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: init - inittab , how to monitor process like on linux ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:53:26 -0000 On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 04:45:13 +0200, ADNET Ghislain wrote: > Hi, > > The init process can watch daemon and respawn died ones on linux with > simple configuration. I tried to reproduce this in my FreeBSD server. I > know this can be done also as the man page says: > > Init can also be used to keep arbitrary daemons running, automatically > restarting them if they die. In this case, the first field in the > ttys(5) file must not reference the path to a configured device > node and > will be passed to the daemon as the final argument on its command line. > This is similar to the facility offered in the AT&T System V UNIX > /etc/inittab. > > but no matter how i tweak the ttys file i cannot make it to work. > > Does any FreeeBSD guru can help me make the step from linux complete as > i cannot find help about this anywhere (the freeBSD admin book do not > speak of it and google is silent about freeBSD specific ttys "inittab > like" settings). > > A simple exemple will do the trick, basicaly i need this to keep spamd, > clamd running (with better and safer way than using a while 1 loop on > the shell). > > Best regards, > Ghislain. Best to post this to freebsd-questions. -- Terry -------------------------------------------------------- you are right this is a bsd newby question ;) here we go :) ! i pray the BSD god for an answer, yet humans are probably the best source of information out there so if any mere mortal can help me with my init question it will save some goats from the sacrificial ritual... Best regards, Ghislain From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 15:56:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 907D416A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:56:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pop-a065c28.pas.sa.earthlink.net (pop-a065c28.pas.sa.earthlink.net [207.217.121.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F72843D1D for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:56:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mrbluez2u@earthlink.net) Received: from cpe-24-221-143-124.az.sprintbbd.net ([24.221.143.124] helo=dmnlilrsp) by pop-a065c28.pas.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1CMTgD-0003q1-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:56:13 -0700 From: "MrBluez" To: Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:56:12 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 Thread-Index: AcS7dFEpc3ZhS75fStOCM6zCKZWwaA== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Dmesg output confusion/printer problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:56:14 -0000 Sorry to be impatient but I'm really curious about this stuff. I'm trying to get my printer (HP LaserJet 4L) to function in Free BSD 5.2.1. I'm following the handbook's instructions verbatim because I can't reliably get the printer to print (even plain text). The handbook isn't appears to be outdated & is unclear about how to troubleshoot at best. But that's another point, :-). Per section 9.3.1.2.1 Kernel Configuration in the handbook, I ran a dmesg command & received the doubled response. The command & responses are listed below. % grep ppc2 /var/run/dmesg.boot ppc2 port 0x778-0x77b,0x378-0x37f irq 7 on acpi0 ppc2: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode ppbus2: on ppc2 ppc2 port 0x778-0x77b,0x378-0x37f irq 7 on acpi0 ppc2: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode ppbus2: on ppc2 Question 1) Why am I getting a doubled response with the dmesg query & if it isn't normal behavior for "dmesg" to double the reply, how do I make it go away? Question 2) Assuming that I get question 1 resolved, how do I get on the right track to figure out what's up with the printing issue? I don't want to install CUPS or any other spooler program until I have a handle on what's happening with the lpd. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 16:00:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AA8C16A4CF for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:00:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3703143D1F for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:00:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EA98D51495; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:01:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:01:37 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20041026160137.GA31869@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20041026024356.GA96981@thought.org> <20041026035437.GA30968@xor.obsecurity.org> <20041026045647.GA97200@thought.org> <20041026072623.GA64337@xor.obsecurity.org> <20041026073850.GA97684@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041026073850.GA97684@thought.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: FreeBSD Mailing List cc: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: lib/pam problems... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:00:44 -0000 --PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 12:38:50AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 12:26:23AM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: >=20 > > > > Is your xdm linked to stale (FreeBSD 4.x) libraries? > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > no, already checked thatt. xfree86 is gone; only xorg binaries > > > are there. also,i moved away pam.conf; it has the same info as > > > pam.d, but just to see... > >=20 > > Can you humour me and run a ldd on the xdm binary? > >=20 > Hm, ahhh, maybe... (!) sure... =20 >=20 > root@sartre:/etc# ldd `which xdm` > /usr/X11R6/bin/xdm: > libXpm.so.4 =3D> /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4 (0x2808c000) > libXmu.so.6 =3D> /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6 (0x2809a000) > libXt.so.6 =3D> /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x280af000) > libSM.so.6 =3D> /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x280f9000) > libICE.so.6 =3D> /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x28102000) > libXext.so.6 =3D> /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x28119000) > libX11.so.6 =3D> /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x28127000) > libXau.so.0 =3D> /usr/X11R6/lib/libXau.so.0 (0x281e5000) > libXdmcp.so.0 =3D> /usr/X11R6/lib/libXdmcp.so.0 (0x281e8000) > libpam.so.1 =3D> /usr/lib/libpam.so.1 (0x281ec000) > libcrypt.so.2 =3D> /lib/libcrypt.so.2 (0x281f6000) > libXinerama.so.1 =3D> /usr/X11R6/lib/libXinerama.so.1 (0x2820e000) > libutil.so.3 =3D> /usr/lib/libutil.so.3 (0x28211000) > libxpg4.so.3 =3D> /usr/lib/libxpg4.so.3 (0x2821a000) > libc.so.4 =3D> /usr/lib/libc.so.4 (0x2821c000) ^^^^^^^^^ Thought so..that's a 4.x binary. You can't mix 4.x binaries and 5.x libraries, which is why you're getting the PAM failure from dlopen(). Rebuild it. Kris --PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBfnThWry0BWjoQKURAqNnAKCq9lmj6EMsINmI1lpxINS6ym3AuACeMKeL 5txwB2HWtRvjRniaoJFBSzM= =GVaG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 16:02:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCD2D16A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:02:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B784343D46 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:02:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D2C5651495; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:03:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:03:00 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Odhiambo Washington , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041026160300.GB31869@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20041026093838.GC91555@ns2.wananchi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="FkmkrVfFsRoUs1wW" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041026093838.GC91555@ns2.wananchi.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.3BETA7 and Disk Woes!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:02:07 -0000 --FkmkrVfFsRoUs1wW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 12:38:38PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote: >=20 > Hello experts, >=20 > [If I haven't provided any info, please let me know what it is and I > will] We need exact error messages, from the main console and on the other vtys (press Alt+F2, etc). Kris --FkmkrVfFsRoUs1wW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBfnU0Wry0BWjoQKURAgGCAKDZJNgGEoz02Y5oSubJD7mr9+Q0NQCgjBKQ 1jzAZWAB9vT8h4tryAuNyEg= =+QRE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --FkmkrVfFsRoUs1wW-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 16:02:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AE2616A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:02:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33CF643D58 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:02:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 52EAF533C1; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:03:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:03:49 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Peter G Message-ID: <20041026160349.GC31869@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20041026145107.51856.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="dkEUBIird37B8yKS" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041026145107.51856.qmail@web50607.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Opteron problem after recompile is "ffs_mountroot: can't find rootvp" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:02:56 -0000 --dkEUBIird37B8yKS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 07:51:07AM -0700, Peter G wrote: > Generic amd64 kernel boots fine >=20 > after recompile of 5.2.1 amd64 version on Opteron 146 > single proc machine (2GHz) >=20 > It doesn't mount the root file system >=20 > the error is: >=20 > ffs_mountroot: can't find rootvp >=20 > The Geom list is blank >=20 >=20 > any suggestions? You removed too much from your kernel config file relative to GENERIC? Kris --dkEUBIird37B8yKS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBfnVkWry0BWjoQKURAgmvAJ9bwsHNrhY8RvUfewO8OZ6R3bziXACgldIs EmInkXIJrDRmUS6QbResiPQ= =F3tC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --dkEUBIird37B8yKS-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 16:18:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB76816A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:18:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from galaxy.systems.pipex.net (galaxy.systems.pipex.net [62.241.162.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E455743D1F for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:18:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mark.cullen@dsl.pipex.com) Received: from [10.0.0.247] (81-178-72-203.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.72.203]) by galaxy.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D337E000330 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:18:28 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <417E78DA.2000703@dsl.pipex.com> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:18:34 +0100 From: Mark Cullen User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <417E1FDE.3050407@dsl.pipex.com> <417E30F4.8060903@comptek.ru> <417E7050.4070208@dsl.pipex.com> In-Reply-To: <417E7050.4070208@dsl.pipex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Serial console weirdness X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:18:31 -0000 Mark Cullen wrote: > Artem Kazakov wrote: > >>Mark Cullen wrote: >> >> >>>Ok, I am having a bit of trouble setting up a serial console login. The >>>cable is attached to com1, heres my /etc/ttys >>> >>># The 'dialup' keyword identifies dialin lines to login, fingerd etc. >>>ttyd0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.115200" dialup on secure >>> >>> >>>Now, my problem is that when I do a kill -HUP 1 nothing happens; Well, I >>>am sure something happens, it certainly doesn't start getty on that >>>serial port though! However(!) when I start getty manually on that port: >>> >>>/usr/libexec/getty std.9600 ttyd0 >>> >>>It promptly goes into the background and on my other machine I get the >>>login prompt and all is well (until I logout as getty isn't being >>>respawned). I didn't see anything logged as to why it's not working. >>> >>>I will mention that I yanked the (very very broken) graphics card out of >>>that machine, so there's no ttyv's. Do I need to make the serial console >>>my ... console/display for getty to start working again perhaps? >>> >>>Any help would be much appreciated. >> >>probably you need to change dialup with something (like vt100) sutable >>your enviroment >> > > > I have tried cons25, xterm and (now) vt100. It's not that... > > # Serial terminals > # The 'dialup' keyword identifies dialin lines to login, fingerd etc. > ttyd0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.115200" cons25 on secure > ttyd1 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" dialup off secure > ttyd2 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" dialup off secure > ttyd3 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" dialup off secure > # Dumb console > dcons "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" vt100 off secure > # Pseudo terminals > ttyp0 none network > /etc/ttys: 307 lines, 7539 characters > (root|bone)/home/mrboo# kill -HUP 1 > (root|bone)/home/mrboo# ps ax | grep getty > 21134 p0 R+ 0:00.02 grep getty > (root|bone)/home/mrboo# > > Note: I have no getty processes as there's no graphics card, so I am > guessing if it was working right I would start to see a: > > /usr/libexec/getty std.115200 ttyd0 > > It appears in the process list (and works) when I run the above manually! I'll reply to myself here. I just now created /boot.config with -h, rebooted, and all is well. With the added bonus of it being a serial console at the boot loader part. I am impressed :) Can't seem to get it to work with anything other than 9600 (even though the process list shows std.115200), but it gives me some sort of of display to work with during the boot process atleast :) -- Internet Explorer? Try FireFox at http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ Outlook Express? Try ThunderBird at http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 16:19:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3125116A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:19:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web12504.mail.yahoo.com (web12504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DB61343D41 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:19:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from valerian_ro@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20041026161924.73778.qmail@web12504.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [193.226.51.162] by web12504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:19:24 PDT Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:19:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Valerian Galeru To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: RE: waiting for a syslogd message X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:19:25 -0000 uname -a FreeBSD v 4.9-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE #0: Mon Oct 27 17:51:09 GMT 2003 root@freebsd-stable.sentex.ca:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 I would like to make a sh script and I have the next question: I don`t want the next command to be executed until the kernel sends a syslogd message. For example, I want make the script waiting for the message from ifconfig after I change the MAC : ifconfig my_nc ether mac. This command will send a message to syslogd (and this => to console). __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 16:23:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5830616A4CF for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:23:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.tsgincorporated.com (smtp1.tsgincorporated.com [67.66.242.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C94E343D46 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:23:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micheal@tsgincorporated.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.tsgincorporated.com [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1.tsgincorporated.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 374243A73DC; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:23:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from smtp1.tsgincorporated.com ([127.0.0.1])port 10024) with ESMTP id 24106-08; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:23:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from smtp3.tsgincorporated.com (support.tsgincorporated.com [67.66.242.9]) by smtp1.tsgincorporated.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 517D13A73D2; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:23:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from micheal (micheal.tsgincorporated.com [67.66.242.77]) by smtp3.tsgincorporated.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 1C1AC62896; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:23:41 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <017b01c4bb78$28263a00$4df24243@tsgincorporated.com> From: "Micheal Patterson" To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" , , References: Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:23:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at tsgincorporated.com cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:23:46 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Micheal Patterson" ; ; Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 1:20 AM Subject: RE: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Micheal Patterson [mailto:micheal@tsgincorporated.com] > > Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 9:44 AM > > To: Ted Mittelstaedt; TM4525@aol.com; stefan@swebase.com > > Cc: questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: Re: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows > > > > > > Honestly, what makes you think that Windows is more complex in it's > > administration than a *Nix system? > > Well, the first thing that makes me think this is because the ISP I > work at has an arm of the businesses that is purely Windows > techs who companies pay to fix their Windows servers, and I get called > in to help fix lots of messes there pretty regularly. (even > though I do not have a MCSE myself) > > I've seen the stuff with my own eyes. It ain't pretty. > > If you think that administering a Windows server is so simple then > answer the following test: > > How do you lock down an Exchange 5.5 server to prevent a spammer from > using it as a relay. > > I know how to do it. No, it does not involve grubbing around in the > registry. No it is not documented, either. I know for a fact that > it isn't because I was in the conference call > where we had to do it, and the Microsoft support tech himself told us > it wasn't documented. > Are you referring to reconfiguring the IMC with: "Reroute incoming SMTP mail", then in Routing Restrictions, selecting "Hosts and Clients with these IP addresses" and leaving the data fields blank? If that's the method that you're talking about, it's only "non-documented" within MS's help files. It's plastered all over the web. Do a search on google for "MS exchange 5.5 open relay" and just look at the info that you get. If that's the issue that you're discussing, someone in your admin section just cost the company the price for the trouble ticket for no reason because they didn't bother to look for it. > > It's common knowledge that Windows is > > "easier" to manage. That's one of it's selling points and it always has > > been. "Windows is now easier than ever, just point and click". Tell me how > > many times have you heard someone say that about any *Nix OS currently > > available? > > > > Windows by itself is pretty useless as a server. It only becomes useful > when you start adding in all the other crap, like a mailserver (exchange) > a terminal server, a backup software, etc. People in the type of network that I'm in, only use Windows for applications that require it's use. Telerad, Centricity, and various other medical software that requires MSSQL. All other applications here on my network are using FreeBSD from 4.9 to 5.3.7 or AIX. > You have obviously never had to sort out a mess with Veritos ie: Seagate > Backup on Windows. Backup is so hairy under Windows servers that even > Microsoft themselves is afraid or unable to release a backup program > with the operating system that backs up open files. And SQL server, > Exchange, and any other serious server application ALWAYS has open > files under a Windows server. Oh, yes.. I've had my share of issues with Windows. Just as I've had with every other OS that I've used. I also know how to use login restrictions to force users out of the network so that the backups can occur to reduce the amount of open file skips as well. > > The human race as a whole, is always looking for something to make doing > > something easier for them. That's what drives our desire to contstantly > > design new technology. > > > > Hate to wake you with the clue phone but WE don't design new technology. > The people who design new technology are the companies that produce > it. And they have agendas OTHER than just making your life easier. > Such as making money. Why do you think that there's a new version of > Microsoft Word every couple years? Can you tell me with a straight > face that each new version of Word has made it easier to type a > typical business letter? Clue phone? How about letting me smack you in the forhead with a clue bat. You speak about companies having other agendas. Yes, that's true. Pray tell, do answer the inevitable quesiton. How is it that companies, corporations and other big business are able to make that profit? Do they force their wares onto the unsuspecting public and force us to purchase them? Do they force you to use the aftershave you use to make you smell better to the little woman? Do they force upon you the car that you drive, the furniture in your home, the home you live in, is that forced upon you by anyone? Wait for it, wait for it. Clue bat time. You, as an individual, chose to own / use those items. Just as everyone else did. Your desire to make your life easier and more comfortable for yourself and your family. You, I and everyone around us are what makes the companies and corporations successful in their quest to gain fame and fortune. It's our demands that feed their supply to us. They didn't force anything on any of us and they make their money from our desires. It's human nature. Let's talk about the net for example. The Internet wasn't designed by corporations or big business. It has it's roots in a very small amount of people. People who thought, hey, wouldn't it be cool if we could do this? And the rest is history. Big business and corporations take the credit for many things that has come to pass since recorded time within the industrial revolution. However, when you look right at it, WE, as in the human race, have thinkers, and people who are able to step beyond the bounds of their constraints and "imagine" what something would be like. It's called ideas. You have them, I have them, we all have them. This is the basis for our technology, not companies or corporations. The companies / corporations and big business take the credit for their conception and implementation, but it all boils down to a single thought process of one person. I stated those items in my inital response to indicate that we, as a race, are always striving to take the easy way out. If it requires us to invent something to do that, so be it. It's what prompted the saddle, the car, the telegraph, the telephone, and so forth. Regardless if the saddle was a crutch for people who couldn't ride, or if the technology hasn't changed within the last 100 years. The fact remains, they were thought out, designed, and implemented so that others could do something easier. I know you think I'm wrong. I'd like you to consider a few things though please. If you prefer meat in your meals, would you raise cattle, swine, chickens? If you like vegetables, fruits, and such would you grow a garden for all of your needs? Do you like bread? Do you bake it yourself? Due to convienience and limitations on where you live, chances are you don't do either of those. Chances are high that you won't move to allow yourself to grow crops or raise livestock. Why? Because it's too convienient for you, and the lifestyle you've chosen to walk away from the modem convienences to do that. There are those that do. However, I can guarantee you that there are more people in the world that use a supermarket, than there are farmers in the world. > Windows WAS simpler than UNIX. No longer. You need to get out into > the field again, you have been sitting behind a desk managing things > for too long. I'd love to see you setup a Active Directory network of > any size that contains mixed Windows versions. You would lose a lot of > these misguided preconceptions. Ted I do this every day. I have 4 hospitals, 3 cancer treatment facilities and currently 29 other remote locations that are running Windows AD, behind FreeBSD firewalls, whose internal systems, are anything from Windows 98, to Windows XP Pro that all converge to the central center via ipsec tunnels. Windows, was and is currently designed -- Micheal Patterson Senior Communications Systems Engineer 405-917-0600 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 16:27:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5382916A4D1 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:27:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.techweavers.net (edtn016809.hs.telusplanet.net [161.184.241.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B873943D5D for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:26:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from adams@techweavers.net) Received: (qmail 9106 invoked by uid 1003); 26 Oct 2004 16:27:00 -0000 Received: from 161.184.241.49 by smtp.techweavers.net (envelope-from , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.23 (clamscan: 0.80 Clear:RC:1(161.184.241.49):. Processed in 0.706093 secs); 26 Oct 2004 16:27:00 -0000 Received: from edtn016813.hs.telusplanet.net (HELO development2) (161.184.241.49) by edtn016809.hs.telusplanet.net with SMTP; 26 Oct 2004 16:26:59 -0000 From: "Adam Seniuk" To: Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:27:03 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Thread-Index: AcS7eKA79MB8MRtpQv2z5W7e4crvWQ== X-Qmail-Scanner-Message-ID: <10988080196759098@smtp.techweavers.net> Message-Id: <20041026162657.B873943D5D@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: 2 Network Cards & 2 IP's? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:27:00 -0000 Hello; I am wondering how to get 2 Different network cards to have 2 Different IP's but I want to have both ips on the same ip block. For example: 192.168.1.100 on NIC 1 192.168.1.101 on NIC 2 Gateway 192.168.1.1 Not sure on how to set it up properly. I would appreciate any help or tips people have on this subject. and yes I have googled for it but none have this scenario :D Sincerely, Adam Seniuk adams@techweavers.net Senior Server Administrator --------------------------------------------- System Administrator | Server Administrator || Database Administrator || Website Administrator || -------------------------------------------- Techweavers Inc. www.techweavers.net "Your Website Solution" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 16:30:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4384A16A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:30:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from amsfep12-int.chello.nl (nl-ams-slo-l4-01-pip-3.chellonetwork.com [213.46.243.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B9F643D49 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:30:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Danovitsch@Vitsch.net) Received: from Vitsch.net ([212.187.78.35]) by amsfep12-int.chello.nl (InterMail vM.6.01.03.04 201-2131-111-106-20040729) with ESMTP id <20041026162053.GHBN16455.amsfep12-int.chello.nl@Vitsch.net>; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:20:53 +0200 Received: from 192.168.2.8 (cp402377-c.venlo1.lb.home.nl [217.122.93.195]) by Vitsch.net (8.12.3p2/8.11.3) with ESMTP id i9QGKlun049852; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:20:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Danovitsch@Vitsch.net) From: "Daan Vreeken [PA4DAN]" To: scott renna Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:20:49 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.2 References: <20041026153838.32374.qmail@web53609.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20041026153838.32374.qmail@web53609.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410261820.49470.Danovitsch@Vitsch.net> cc: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Dlink-g520 Wireless and WEP more X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:30:02 -0000 On Tuesday 26 October 2004 17:38, scott renna wrote: > ok, well this system has a 3com, xl0 holding an ip of > 192.168.2.150 > Does this mean that I need to have each interface > having an IP on a different subnet? > maybe I could change the mask on the xl0 to > 255.255.248.0 and it might work? Nope, that won't help. > I wanted to have the wireless card on the same subnet > as the rest of the LAN and keep the wired card up and > running just for testing before permanently migrating > to this wireless card(i'm using encrypted protocols > locally so wep weaknesses should not be an issue). > > is there a way to have both cards be on the same > subnet and have the same subnet mask? Nope. If you would do that, FreeBSD wouldn't know on what interface it should send packets destined for a PC on that subnet. (That's why ifconfig refuses to set the ip address). If you want to be able to switch between LAN and WLAN, you'll have to turn off one of the interfaces... If you want to run over WLAN, type : ifconfig xl0 down ifconfig ath0 192.168.2.150 etc etc etc... If you want to switch back to LAN, type : ifconfig ath0 down ifconfig xl0 up You can assign the same ip address to multiple interfaces, but you can only have one of the "up" at a time. good luck, Daan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 16:36:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5B2816A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:36:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from exchange.nmnet.dk (mail.nmnet.dk [83.97.97.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F90D43D45 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:36:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tr@nmnet.dk) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:41:38 +0200 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Message-ID: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.6944.0 X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: SV: Vinum, and poweroutage... HELP! Thread-Index: AcS44Xk31kEjuoozQkyadT3U0jfw6QCmFmsw From: "Thomas Rasmussen" To: Subject: SV: SV: Vinum, and poweroutage... HELP! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:36:22 -0000 This is what happend... Still got the second disk... what to do now?=20 Fsck -b32 -y /dev/vinum/mirror webserver1# mount /dev/vinum/mirror /a webserver1# ls .cshrc .login_conf .mailrc .rhosts .login .mail_aliases .profile .shrc webserver1# cd /a webserver1# ls lost+found webserver1# cd lost+found/ webserver1# ls #02557845 #07175061 #15169226 #15183754 = #15198282 #16387003 #16430779 #02558357 #07175573 #15169728 #15184256 = #15198784 #16387499 #16431275 #02558869 #07176085 #15169730 #15184258 = #15198786 #16387515 #16431291 #02559381 #07176597 #15169732 #15184260 = #15198788 #16388011 #16431787 #02559893 #07177109 #15169734 #15184262 = #15198790 #16388027 #16431803 #02560405 #07177621 #15169736 #15184264 = #15198792 #16388523 #16432299 #02561109 #07178133 #15169738 #15184266 = #15198794 #16388539 #16432315 #02561621 #07178645 #15170240 #15184768 = #15199296 #16389035 #16432811 #02562133 #07179157 #15170242 #15184770 = #15199298 #16389051 #16432827 #02562645 #07179349 #15170244 #15184772 = #15199300 #16389547 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#15161856 #15176384 #15191104 = #15205632 #16407851 #16451627 #07131285 #15161858 #15176386 #15191106 = #15205634 #16407867 #16451643 #07131797 #15161860 #15176388 #15191108 = #15205636 #16408363 #16452139 #07132309 #15161862 #15176390 #15191110 = #15205638 #16408379 #16452155 #07132821 #15161864 #15176392 #15191112 = #15205640 #16408875 #16452651 #07133333 #15161866 #15176394 #15191114 = #15205642 #16408891 #16452667 Med venlig hilsen/Best regards Thomas Rasmussuen Network manager, NM Net ApS Email: tr@nmnet.dk Tlf./Phone: +45 8677 0606 Fax: +45 8677 0615 -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org = [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] P=E5 vegne af Erik Udo Sendt: 23. oktober 2004 11:14 Til: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Emne: Re: SV: Vinum, and poweroutage... HELP! I dont think CLEAR will remove any files, it would say something like: REMOVE? y/n If it needed to remove files. Anyway, run fsck -y first so that it does = not write anything, and you'll see if it wants to remove anything. Thomas Rasmussen wrote: >Because i dont know if it will remove the data... ( don't have backup = so... ) > >There is about 10000 files.. so it will take long time but what to do? > >Med venlig hilsen/Best regards >Thomas Rasmussuen >Network manager, NM Net ApS >Email: tr@nmnet.dk >Tlf./Phone: +45 8677 0606 Fax: +45 8677 0615 > >-----Oprindelig meddelelse----- >Fra: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org = [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] P=E5 vegne af Erik Udo >Sendt: 23. oktober 2004 11:07 >Til: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Emne: Re: Vinum, and poweroutage... HELP! > >Why didn't you answer "yes" to fsck? I dont think it would have removed >anything... > >Few keywords you might want to check: >scan_ffs >fsck_ffs > > >Thomas Rasmussen wrote: > > =20 > >>Have a vinum setup... two disk... >> >>Vinum.conf >> >>drive d1 device /dev/ad2s1e >>drive d2 device /dev/ad3s1e >> volume mirror >> plex org concat >> sd length 190000m drive d1 >> plex org concat >> sd length 190000m drive d2 >> >> >> >> >>when I try to run fsck /dev/vinum/mirror >> >>it outputs.. >> >>BAD SUPER BLOCK: VALUES IN SUPER BLOCK DISAGREE WITH THOSE IN FIRST >>ALTERNATE >>CANNOT FIGURE OUT FILE SYSTEM PARTITION >> >>So I try to run=20 >> >>fsck -b 32 -n /dev/vinum/mirror >> >>and get a lot of these erros... any? >>Should a run fsck -b 32 /dev/vinum/mirror and say yes?=20 >> >> >>PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=3D1838571 >>CLEAR? no >> >>PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=3D1838572 >>CLEAR? no >> >>PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=3D1838573 >>CLEAR? no >> >>PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=3D1838574 >>CLEAR? no >> >>PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=3D1838575 >>CLEAR? no >> >>PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=3D1838576 >>CLEAR? no >> >>PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=3D1838577 >>CLEAR? no >> >>PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=3D1838578 >>CLEAR? no >> >>PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=3D1838579 >>CLEAR? no >> >>UNKNOWN FILE TYPE I=3D1838580 >>CLEAR? no >> >>PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=3D1838581 >>CLEAR? no >> >>PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=3D1838582 >>CLEAR? no >> >>PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=3D1838583 >>CLEAR? no >> >>PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=3D1838584 >>CLEAR? no >> >>PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=3D1838585 >>CLEAR? no >> >>PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=3D1838586 >>CLEAR? no >> >>PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=3D1838587 >>CLEAR? no >> >>PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=3D1838588 >>CLEAR? no >> >>PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=3D1838589 >>CLEAR? no >> >>PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=3D1838590 >>CLEAR? no >> >>PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=3D1838591 >>CLEAR? no >> >>PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=3D1839040 >>CLEAR? no >> >>PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=3D1839041 >>CLEAR? no >> >>PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=3D1839042 >> >> >> >> >>Med venlig hilsen/Best regards >>Thomas Rasmussuen >>Network manager, NM Net ApS >>Email: tr@nmnet.dk >>Tlf./Phone: +45 8677 0606 Fax: +45 8677 0615 >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >>=20 >> >> =20 >> > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > =20 > _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 16:52:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEFED16A4CF for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:52:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sage.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 092B443D41 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:52:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao [10.0.0.247]) by sage.thought.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9QGrgh0012344; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:53:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thought.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i9QGqYOd040437; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:52:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i9QGqS08040432; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:52:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:52:27 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Giorgos Keramidas Message-ID: <20041026165227.GA40348@thought.org> References: <42734323-2522-11D9-8790-000A95BE58A4@tf7.so-net.ne.jp> <20041023193924.GA52933@gothmog.gr> <20041023214555.GA4233@gothmog.gr> <20041026070454.GD6513@alzatex.com> <20041026092908.GB833@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041026092908.GB833@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 18 years of service to the Unix community User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: "Loren M. Lang" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A good IDE for C development? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:52:57 -0000 On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 12:29:08PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2004-10-26 00:04, "Loren M. Lang" wrote: > >On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 12:45:55AM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > >>On 2004-10-23 22:52, John Oxley wrote: [ ... ] > >> I use both Emacs and vim, with reasonable levels of comfort. I haven't > >> found a way to convince ctags that it's ok for a tag to appear multiple > >> times (which can really be annoying when editing the sources of a kernel, > >> where names are *bound* to appear multiple times), but I know what you > >> mean. > > > > Are you using exuberant ctags? I've had problems with various other ctags > > programs choking before, but exuberant has usually worked instead. Now I > > know that I had some programs with exuberant ctags with the linux kernel > > before, but I think if exuberant knows all the defines then it should be > > able to figure out which tag is correct by way of the c pre-processor. > > I don't think so. I tried using `/usr/bin/ctags' but being able to do my work > with Emacs' support for tags didn't search for other vim-compatible tagging > tools. I see now that Exuberant Ctags is available as the devel/ctags port. > Perhaps it would be nice to try it out one of these days. > > Apparently it doesn't even conflict with the /usr/local/bin/ctags > executable that comes with Emacs (it's installed as exctags in the same > directory). Coolness! > I've given up on emacs, save for use in vi-mode: [x]emacs demands at least two hands:) Beside, my fingers know vi automatically. --That said, isn't/wasn't there some kind of IDE that let the user choose different toolsets??-- (For example, I might be happy with an integrated [n]vi or vim + ctags + gdb) I've tried the KDE flavor of IDE back while running SuSE but it's editor gave me fits; kept hitting ESC and the [jk] keys, &c. In the end, I think the IDE concept might not do that much for productivity; it may be more along thr 'neat-toys' category. But I'll withhold my biases until I learn differently. If there is no IDE that lets you pick-and-choose, is there any that uses vi* as its default? gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 16:56:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1B9D16A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:56:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AFD343D45 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:56:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nomadlogic@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so195059wri for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:56:57 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=uuNTaGV3Rh4m0FzBqDhwXkcMhzXsKZKerBvK0ijf4goP1xFABcqFoW540F3l66trSi+P6UCQmKIDx6rNhtN1f9NqFEPAVrjIiE+8dsdPakMbZKU2EXbaqcdFfWdKYeZmJ8ESM8IR6GzXEVMq1V3FgsGpXJFW2bm7ZgnHzbukC78= Received: by 10.38.150.44 with SMTP id x44mr565431rnd; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:56:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.14.69 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:56:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <57d710000410260956535c2242@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:56:57 -0700 From: pete wright To: Adam Seniuk In-Reply-To: <20041026162657.B873943D5D@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20041026162657.B873943D5D@mx1.FreeBSD.org> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2 Network Cards & 2 IP's? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: pete wright List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:56:59 -0000 On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:27:03 -0600, Adam Seniuk wrote: > Hello; > > I am wondering how to get 2 Different network cards to have 2 Different IP's > but I want to have both ips on the same ip block. > > For example: > > 192.168.1.100 on NIC 1 > > 192.168.1.101 on NIC 2 > > Gateway 192.168.1.1 > > Not sure on how to set it up properly. I would appreciate any help or tips > people have on this subject. and yes I have googled for it but none have > this scenario :D > maybe i'm missing something obvious here, but why can't you just assign 192.168.1.1 as your default route then assign each of those ip's thier respective nic's? -p -- ~~o0OO0o~~ Pete Wright www.nycbug.org NYC's *BSD User Group From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 17:00:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCE5316A589 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:00:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.techweavers.net (edtn016809.hs.telusplanet.net [161.184.241.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5833D43D49 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:00:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from adams@techweavers.net) Received: (qmail 10029 invoked by uid 1003); 26 Oct 2004 17:00:37 -0000 Received: from 161.184.241.49 by smtp.techweavers.net (envelope-from , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.23 (clamscan: 0.80 Clear:RC:1(161.184.241.49):. Processed in 0.661175 secs); 26 Oct 2004 17:00:37 -0000 Received: from edtn016813.hs.telusplanet.net (HELO development2) (161.184.241.49) by edtn016809.hs.telusplanet.net with SMTP; 26 Oct 2004 17:00:36 -0000 From: "Adam Seniuk" To: "'pete wright'" Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:00:45 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: <57d710000410260956535c2242@mail.gmail.com> Thread-Index: AcS7fM6d8IdCcxlETj26qOuCE+QRvwAAEIQQ X-Qmail-Scanner-Message-ID: <109881003767510022@smtp.techweavers.net> Message-Id: <20041026170034.5833D43D49@mx1.FreeBSD.org> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: 2 Network Cards & 2 IP's? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:00:34 -0000 > xl0 > arp: 192.168.1.100 is on fxp0 but got reply from 00:02:b3:9f:74:89 on > xl0 > arp: 192.168.1.1 is on fxp0 but got reply from 00:07:e9:10:43:78 on I get these messages in my logs (quite a few) So I am not sure what is wrong. I noticed in another thread that freebsd does not allow ips from the same netmask so how does the blundering windows do it? -----Original Message----- From: pete wright [mailto:nomadlogic@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 10:57 AM To: Adam Seniuk Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2 Network Cards & 2 IP's? On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:27:03 -0600, Adam Seniuk wrote: > Hello; > > I am wondering how to get 2 Different network cards to have 2 Different IP's > but I want to have both ips on the same ip block. > > For example: > > 192.168.1.100 on NIC 1 > > 192.168.1.101 on NIC 2 > > Gateway 192.168.1.1 > > Not sure on how to set it up properly. I would appreciate any help or tips > people have on this subject. and yes I have googled for it but none have > this scenario :D > maybe i'm missing something obvious here, but why can't you just assign 192.168.1.1 as your default route then assign each of those ip's thier respective nic's? -p -- ~~o0OO0o~~ Pete Wright www.nycbug.org NYC's *BSD User Group From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 17:08:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A876816A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:08:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sage.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24AB343D4C for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:08:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao [10.0.0.247]) by sage.thought.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9QH9hh0012383; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:09:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thought.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i9QH8XwW040477; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:08:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i9QH8WWj040476; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:08:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:08:32 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Kris Kennaway Message-ID: <20041026170831.GB40348@thought.org> References: <20041026024356.GA96981@thought.org> <20041026035437.GA30968@xor.obsecurity.org> <20041026045647.GA97200@thought.org> <20041026072623.GA64337@xor.obsecurity.org> <20041026073850.GA97684@thought.org> <20041026160137.GA31869@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041026160137.GA31869@xor.obsecurity.org> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 18 years of service to the Unix community User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: Gary Kline cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: lib/pam problems... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:08:39 -0000 On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 09:01:37AM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 12:38:50AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 12:26:23AM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > > > > > Is your xdm linked to stale (FreeBSD 4.x) libraries? > > > > > > > > Can you humour me and run a ldd on the xdm binary? > > > > > Hm, ahhh, maybe... (!) sure... > > > > root@sartre:/etc# ldd `which xdm` > > /usr/X11R6/bin/xdm: > > libXpm.so.4 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4 (0x2808c000) > > libXmu.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6 (0x2809a000) > > libXt.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x280af000) > > libSM.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x280f9000) > > libICE.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x28102000) > > libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x28119000) > > libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x28127000) > > libXau.so.0 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXau.so.0 (0x281e5000) > > libXdmcp.so.0 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXdmcp.so.0 (0x281e8000) > > libpam.so.1 => /usr/lib/libpam.so.1 (0x281ec000) > > libcrypt.so.2 => /lib/libcrypt.so.2 (0x281f6000) > > libXinerama.so.1 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXinerama.so.1 (0x2820e000) > > libutil.so.3 => /usr/lib/libutil.so.3 (0x28211000) > > libxpg4.so.3 => /usr/lib/libxpg4.so.3 (0x2821a000) > > libc.so.4 => /usr/lib/libc.so.4 (0x2821c000) > ^^^^^^^^^ > > Thought so..that's a 4.x binary. You can't mix 4.x binaries and 5.x > libraries, which is why you're getting the PAM failure from dlopen(). > Rebuild it. > > Kris Rats! I started fresh with my 5.2 CD then upgraded to (I thought) RELENG_5, but ended up building 4.whatever. On my third try i rebuilt using an explicit _5_3 and got 5.3-RELEASE #2. tHere are fewer than 30 ports on my devel box. Would you recommend I portupgrade -fa everything?? you're a gentleman and a scholar, Kris. gary PS: FWIW, my upgrade script did a portclean to get rid of old libs, &c. -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 17:10:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E02D316A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:10:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96E2A43D46 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:10:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from adnichols@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so196935wri for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:10:24 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=aXKBQFsvA6Y9biWcu4CTGKTGAKdgG7WPIi3adOKcsswdIjL2gmFZkZSq7xTFwtfcYUyOX8Brdhl+7eRPwLydXGYFp1Ig8TJipwXkZQVv78iQMZtzFODlApOwW4BnB+NmZEQr3YOPiQa389AxMSiDOUegoCK1RQlACxgpVwftMvE= Received: by 10.54.30.19 with SMTP id d19mr71937wrd; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:10:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.35.52 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:10:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:10:24 -0700 From: Aaron Nichols To: Adam Seniuk In-Reply-To: <20041026170034.5833D43D49@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <57d710000410260956535c2242@mail.gmail.com> <20041026170034.5833D43D49@mx1.FreeBSD.org> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2 Network Cards & 2 IP's? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Aaron Nichols List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:10:31 -0000 On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:00:45 -0600, Adam Seniuk wrote: > > xl0 > > arp: 192.168.1.100 is on fxp0 but got reply from 00:02:b3:9f:74:89 on > > xl0 > > arp: 192.168.1.1 is on fxp0 but got reply from 00:07:e9:10:43:78 on > > I get these messages in my logs (quite a few) > > So I am not sure what is wrong. I noticed in another thread that freebsd > does not allow ips from the same netmask so how does the blundering windows > do it? Those messages are probably technically correct. Since both NIC's are on the same wire, they are both going to see the same ARP request/responses. I assume this error is just indicating that there is already an ARP entry for 192.168.1.100 which indicates that it can be found via fxp0 and it just saw an ARP response indicating that it is also available via xl0 - so which should it use? It's a bit confusing to a machine which has to select the correct NIC to send traffic out. What is the goal of all this? Typically for multipe IP's on the same subnet you would just use an alias - I assume that's not suitable in this case but am not sure why. Aaron From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 17:14:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAEDF16A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:14:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.techweavers.net (edtn016809.hs.telusplanet.net [161.184.241.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 939EE43D1D for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:14:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from adams@techweavers.net) Received: (qmail 10297 invoked by uid 1003); 26 Oct 2004 17:14:12 -0000 Received: from 161.184.241.49 by smtp.techweavers.net (envelope-from , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.23 (clamscan: 0.80 Clear:RC:1(161.184.241.49):. Processed in 0.661018 secs); 26 Oct 2004 17:14:12 -0000 Received: from edtn016813.hs.telusplanet.net (HELO development2) (161.184.241.49) by edtn016809.hs.telusplanet.net with SMTP; 26 Oct 2004 17:14:11 -0000 From: "Adam Seniuk" To: "'Aaron Nichols'" Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:14:21 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcS7fq+gyCnaBYhlSvuXC36zR+OnIAAAEDEA X-Qmail-Scanner-Message-ID: <109881085167510290@smtp.techweavers.net> Message-Id: <20041026171408.939EE43D1D@mx1.FreeBSD.org> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: 2 Network Cards & 2 IP's? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:14:09 -0000 This is more for redundancy, I have 2 on board nic's so if I can use both of them to do basic dns round robin load balancing and manual failover its more useful then one network card doing nothing :D -----Original Message----- From: Aaron Nichols [mailto:adnichols@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 11:10 AM To: Adam Seniuk Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2 Network Cards & 2 IP's? On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:00:45 -0600, Adam Seniuk wrote: > > xl0 > > arp: 192.168.1.100 is on fxp0 but got reply from 00:02:b3:9f:74:89 on > > xl0 > > arp: 192.168.1.1 is on fxp0 but got reply from 00:07:e9:10:43:78 on > > I get these messages in my logs (quite a few) > > So I am not sure what is wrong. I noticed in another thread that freebsd > does not allow ips from the same netmask so how does the blundering windows > do it? Those messages are probably technically correct. Since both NIC's are on the same wire, they are both going to see the same ARP request/responses. I assume this error is just indicating that there is already an ARP entry for 192.168.1.100 which indicates that it can be found via fxp0 and it just saw an ARP response indicating that it is also available via xl0 - so which should it use? It's a bit confusing to a machine which has to select the correct NIC to send traffic out. What is the goal of all this? Typically for multipe IP's on the same subnet you would just use an alias - I assume that's not suitable in this case but am not sure why. Aaron From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 17:20:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDD9516A54C for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:20:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A71B143D46 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:20:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from adnichols@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so198293wri for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:20:10 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=nW2ksQaJJffRBEzdQsDBYfZE7/VqZ9zJdpjRYmNA8weOTsGxEUkGyAqlXLvB/fys7P86tBAbT0tC2SM8WyoCWRSRS+G3HMLIEIt//uzdJW1NlCF+ei0JxfUJXbvM10YzRVR+nGLvQThmUgAG6FpkU68epKOv3YyGPu/RriHOmQw= Received: by 10.54.35.9 with SMTP id i9mr72310wri; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:20:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.35.52 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:20:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:20:10 -0700 From: Aaron Nichols To: Adam Seniuk In-Reply-To: <2468257016843100455@unknownmsgid> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <2468257016843100455@unknownmsgid> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2 Network Cards & 2 IP's? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Aaron Nichols List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:20:11 -0000 On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:14:21 -0600, Adam Seniuk wrote: > This is more for redundancy, I have 2 on board nic's so if I can use both of > them to do basic dns round robin load balancing and manual failover its more > useful then one network card doing nothing :D There is a sysctl variable which can be set to zero and would stop the log events I think net.link.ether.inet.log_arp_wrong_iface: 1 Hopefully that helps. Aaron From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 17:32:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5DA616A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:32:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-m22.mx.aol.com (imo-m22.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85E9543D39 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:32:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from TM4525@aol.com) Received: from TM4525@aol.com by imo-m22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id m.1a5.29af5401 (4418); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:32:22 -0400 (EDT) From: TM4525@aol.com Message-ID: <1a5.29af5401.2eafe426@aol.com> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:32:22 EDT To: micheal@tsgincorporated.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5114 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:32:30 -0000 In a message dated 10/26/04 12:24:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, micheal@tsgincorporated.com writes: > If you think that administering a Windows server is so simple then > answer the following test: > > How do you lock down an Exchange 5.5 server to prevent a spammer from > using it as a relay. > So who was the one who said either was "easy"? I said it takes a higher talent level to generally administer a un*x box than a windows box. I don't think that just because you can think of something thats not easy to do in windows makes any point at all. The fact that a un*x guy had to be called in to solve the problem says alot about the type of talent that is required to do most things that windows techs do. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 17:32:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B007016A4E0 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:32:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web53605.mail.yahoo.com (web53605.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.37.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5250443D39 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:32:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from flexble2547@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20041026173231.13841.qmail@web53605.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.100.162.26] by web53605.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:32:31 PDT Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:32:31 -0700 (PDT) From: scott renna To: "Daan Vreeken [PA4DAN]" In-Reply-To: <200410261820.49470.Danovitsch@Vitsch.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Dlink-g520 Wireless and WEP more X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:32:32 -0000 oh man...ok that's what i was afraid of. i've always wondered why you can't have two nics on the same subnet in freebsd, maybe i'm just missing something or is that by design? I guess i'll drop the wired line and switch to wireless tonight and give it a shot. would aliasing one card to the next work, or is there any particular reason why you can't have two ips from the same subnet on a bsd box? --- "Daan Vreeken [PA4DAN]" wrote: > On Tuesday 26 October 2004 17:38, scott renna wrote: > > ok, well this system has a 3com, xl0 holding an ip > of > > 192.168.2.150 > > Does this mean that I need to have each interface > > having an IP on a different subnet? > > maybe I could change the mask on the xl0 to > > 255.255.248.0 and it might work? > Nope, that won't help. > > > I wanted to have the wireless card on the same > subnet > > as the rest of the LAN and keep the wired card up > and > > running just for testing before permanently > migrating > > to this wireless card(i'm using encrypted > protocols > > locally so wep weaknesses should not be an issue). > > > > is there a way to have both cards be on the same > > subnet and have the same subnet mask? > Nope. > If you would do that, FreeBSD wouldn't know on what > interface it should send > packets destined for a PC on that subnet. (That's > why ifconfig refuses to set > the ip address). > > If you want to be able to switch between LAN and > WLAN, you'll have to turn off > one of the interfaces... > If you want to run over WLAN, type : > ifconfig xl0 down > ifconfig ath0 192.168.2.150 etc etc etc... > > If you want to switch back to LAN, type : > ifconfig ath0 down > ifconfig xl0 up > > You can assign the same ip address to multiple > interfaces, but you can only > have one of the "up" at a time. > > good luck, > Daan > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 17:45:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4091916A4EC for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:45:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0663943D6D for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:45:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from TM4525@aol.com) Received: from TM4525@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id s.bd.48ff1806 (4418); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:45:22 -0400 (EDT) From: TM4525@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:45:22 EDT To: tedm@toybox.placo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5114 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GPL vs BSD Licence X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:45:43 -0000 In a message dated 10/26/04 2:32:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time, tedm@toybox.placo.com writes: Actually a more interesting example is some of the Linksys routers do indeed use an embedded Linux along with Zebra as the routing engine. Ted Or Allot communications, who openly advertise the use of linux, but do not make source available to an obviously modified kernel.. I believe they claim that the GPL is optional. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 17:47:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1718016A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:47:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from raptor.cigb.edu.cu (ns.cigb.edu.cu [200.55.134.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 961FD43D41 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:47:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from osmany.guirola@cigb.edu.cu) Received: from atlas.cigb.edu.cu ([172.16.1.12]) by raptor.cigb.edu.cu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:46:55 -0400 Received: from Unknown [172.16.1.4] by atlas.cigb.edu.cu - SurfControl E-mail Filter (4.6); Tuesday, 26 October 2004, 13:46:50 Received: from [172.16.11.106] ([172.16.11.106]) by mercurio.cigb.edu.cu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:46:49 -0400 Message-ID: <200410261347.30254.osmany.guirola@cigb.edu.cu> From: Osmany Guirola Cruz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:47:30 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Oct 2004 17:46:49.0945 (UTC) FILETIME=[C55BBC90:01C4BB83] References: <1a5.29af5401.2eafe426@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <1a5.29af5401.2eafe426@aol.com> Organization: CIGB User-Agent: KMail/1.7 Subject: free(): error: chunk is already free X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:47:11 -0000 Hi people ... i am having this error when i close certain applications for example i run %bpm and when i close it. i got this bpm in free(): error: chunk is already free Abort and create the bpm.core file :-( and when i run %firefox and close it firefox-bin in free(): error: chunk is already free Abort trap (core dumped) What should i do? Thanks Osmany From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 17:49:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46DC516A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:49:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from exch1.nfmwe.com (68-75-194-133.ded.ameritech.net [68.75.194.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8D8543D3F for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:49:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from PHILLEN@NFM.NET) Received: by exch1.nfmwe.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:56:47 -0400 Message-ID: <99FE86B08AAB034AA33325827D700CE203D41B@exch1.nfmwe.com> From: Paul Hillen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:56:46 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Is anyone running Novells eDirectory on Freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:49:20 -0000 Hi everyone, I want to know if anyone out there is running Novell's eDirectory on FreeBSD and if so, what OS version. I am at moving from an NT Domain and would like to look into eDirectory, but I really don't like Linux as much as FreeBSD. I know FreeBSD has Linux compatibility, but I need to know if anyone is actually using it. Thanks in advance Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 18:00:51 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6107916A4D3 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:00:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail1.computerking.ca (computerking.ca [209.115.173.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9087A43D2D for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:00:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from maillist@computerking.ca) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (v22001.computerking.ca [192.168.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail1.computerking.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44CA8A6; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:00:49 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <417E90D1.9050508@computerking.ca> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:00:49 -0600 From: RYAN vAN GINNEKEN User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040803 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: postfix-users@postfix.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: procmail postfix maildir X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:00:51 -0000 I am useing Freebsd 4.10stable, postfix 2.1.5 with SASL and TLS, procmail version 3.22 and binc IMAP 1.2.8 binc uses Maildir style mail boxes and i have everthing set up to for $HOME/IMAPdir. Funny thing is pocmail sends me the mails it filters fine but the stuff it doesnt filter gets lost in my system mail box /var/mail/rmvg. I have included my .procmailrc, rc.test (reciepe file with test rule), and pmlog(procmail log with verbose enabled) also a postconf -n file for all to see and hopefully someone can help me solve this problem. .procmailrc #### Begin Variables section #### # It is essential that you set SHELL to a Bourne-type shell if # external commands are run from your procmailrc, for example if # you use rc.spamassassin, rc.quarantine, or other advanced recipes. # Setting SHELL should not be needed for the simple sorting recipes in # this step-by-step section, but to be safe and to future proof your # procmailrc, set it anyway! Details are in Check Your $SHELL and $PATH. SHELL=/bin/sh #PATH=$HOME/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/bin:. # Directory for storing procmail configuration and log files # You can name this variable anything you like, for # example PROCMAILDIR or don't set it (but then don't refer to it!) PMDIR=$HOME/Procmail # LOGFILE should be specified ASAP so everything below it is logged # Put ## before LOGFILE if you want no logging (not recommended) LOGFILE=$PMDIR/pmlog # To insert a blank line between each message's log entry, # uncomment next two lines (this is helpful for debugging) LOG=" " # Set to yes when debugging; VERBOSE default is no VERBOSE=yes # Replace $HOME/Msgs with the directory where your personal (non-system-spool) mail # Mutt and elm use $HOME/Mail # Pine uses $HOME/mail # Netscape Messenger uses $HOME/nsmail # Some NNTP clients, such as slrn & nn, use $HOME/News # Mailboxes in maildir format or served by Courier IMAP are often in $HOME/Maildir # Mailboxes served by UW IMAP are sometimes in $HOME MAILDIR=$HOME/IMAPdir # This directory must exist & be writable by your LOGNAME #DEFAULT=IN-catchall # On most systems, your $MAILDIR is a sub # IMPORTANT: Upon reading a line that begins with MAILDIR= # Procmail does a chdir to $MAILDIR and # relative paths are relative to $MAILDIR #### End Variables section; Begin Processing section #### INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/rc.testing #INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/rc.subscriptions # Messages that fall through all your procmail recipes are delivered # to your default INBOX. To find out yours, see step 2 above. #### End Processing section #### rc.testing :0 * ^Subject:.*test IN-testing/ #IN-testing #IN-testing/ #IN-testing/. #.IN-testing pmlog procmail: [10251] Tue Oct 26 00:11:32 2004 procmail: Assigning "MAILDIR=/home/rmvg/IMAPdir" procmail: Assigning "INCLUDERC=/home/rmvg/Procmail/rc.testing" procmail: No match on "^Subject:.*test" procmail: Bypassed locking "/var/mail/rmvg.lock" procmail: Assigning "LASTFOLDER=/var/mail/rmvg" procmail: Opening "/var/mail/rmvg" procmail: Acquiring kernel-lock procmail: Notified comsat: "rmvg@1450267:/var/mail/rmvg" From skinnman@yahoo.com Tue Oct 26 00:11:32 2004 Subject: procmail final Folder: /var/mail/rmvg 885 procmail: [10252] Tue Oct 26 00:11:41 2004 procmail: Assigning "MAILDIR=/home/rmvg/IMAPdir" procmail: Assigning "INCLUDERC=/home/rmvg/Procmail/rc.testing" procmail: Match on "^Subject:.*test" procmail: Assigning "LASTFOLDER=IN-testing/new/1098771101.10252_0.v22.computerking. procmail: Notified comsat: "rmvg@0:/home/rmvg/IMAPdir/IN-testing/new/1098771101.102 From skinnman@yahoo.com Tue Oct 26 00:11:41 2004 Subject: procmail testing Folder: IN-testing/new/1098771101.10252_0.v22.computerking.ca 848 postconf -n alias_database = hash:/etc/aliases alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases broken_sasl_auth_clients = yes command_directory = /usr/local/sbin config_directory = /usr/local/etc/postfix daemon_directory = /usr/local/libexec/postfix debug_peer_level = 2 home_mailbox = IMAPdir/INBOX/ html_directory = no inet_interfaces = all mail_owner = postfix mailq_path = /usr/local/bin/mailq manpage_directory = /usr/local/man mydestination = $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain $mydomain mydomain = computerking.ca myhostname = mail1.computerking.ca mynetworks_style = subnet myorigin = $mydomain newaliases_path = /usr/local/bin/newaliases queue_directory = /var/spool/postfix readme_directory = no relay_domains = $mydestination, shoemasters.computerking.ca, highcoup.ca sample_directory = /usr/local/etc/postfix sendmail_path = /usr/local/sbin/sendmail setgid_group = maildrop smtp_sasl_password_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sasl_passwd smtp_tls_loglevel = 2 smtp_tls_note_starttls_offer = yes smtp_use_tls = yes smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_mynetworks, permit_mx_backup, permit_sasl_authenticated, reject_unauth_destination smtpd_sasl_application_name = smtpd smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = yes smtpd_sasl_local_domain = smtpd_sasl_security_options = noanonymous smtpd_sender_restrictions = permit_mynetworks, permit_mx_backup, permit_sasl_authenticated, reject_unauth_destination smtpd_tls_CAfile = /usr/local/sslcerts/certs/cacert.pem smtpd_tls_auth_only = yes smtpd_tls_cert_file = /usr/local/sslcerts/certs/mail-cert.pem smtpd_tls_key_file = /usr/local/sslcerts/certs/mail-key.pem smtpd_tls_loglevel = 2 smtpd_tls_received_header = yes smtpd_tls_session_cache_timeout = 3600s smtpd_use_tls = yes soft_bounce = no tls_random_source = dev:/dev/urandom unknown_local_recipient_reject_code = 450 virtual_alias_domains = sculpturaldesign.ca, ybotstudios.com virtual_alias_maps = hash:/usr/local/etc/postfix/virtual From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 18:04:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65ACC16A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:04:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from allrounder.lame.at (mail.lame.at [195.58.166.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DF6E43D2D for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:04:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from haimat@lame.at) Received: from itchy (home.lame.at [80.78.254.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by allrounder.lame.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE7FD2FE87 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:03:50 +0200 (CEST) From: "Matthias F. Brandstetter" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:04:23 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410262004.23677.haimat@lame.at> Subject: stack overflow after boot menu when booting from CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:04:26 -0000 Hi all, I have a little problem with FreeBSD 5.2.1 boot CD. After booting from it I can see the boot menu and below "error: stack overflow". The machine is a Pentium 233 MMX with 128mb RAM. Any ideas on this? TIA and Greetings, Matthias PS: I have no problem with a FreeBSD 4.10 CD, but I need 5.x cause of ACLs... PPS: There is allready a bug submitted, but without any fix: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=67260 -- Two-hundred-thirty-nine pounds?! I'm a blimp! Why are all the good things so tasty? -- Homer Simpson Brush With Greatness From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 18:16:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0DF816A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:16:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.proficuous.com (www.proficuous.com [209.240.79.128]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0A2443D41 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:16:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ml@proficuous.com) Received: from [192.168.3.69] (aaron-workstation.proficuous.com [192.168.3.69]) by workhorse.proficuous.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93987A89442 for ; Thu, 21 Oct 2004 18:47:50 -0500 (CDT) From: "Aaron P. Martinez" To: questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1098402497.5678.110.camel@aaron.proficuous.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 (1.4.6-2) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 18:48:18 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: interim port versions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:16:40 -0000 I'm new to the bsd's, came from linux and i'm having a bit of difficulty figuring out the general philosophy. One of the major reasons that i decided to try out the 'bsds' is because of the security. I'm having a hard time however figuring out how security issues in the ports get dealt with when there is a port freeze, like now. The best example i can think of is gaim...(i almost didn't recheck the port on the 4.10 tree, it's now mysteriously up to date, phew.) ......slightly altered next paragraph.... lets say i found out there is a msn slp buffer overflow (like currently) and i wanted to protect myself....so i cvsuped my ports tree and then wanted to portupgrade....... problem is...since it's a port freeze...up until a few days ago it's still at 0.82 not the 1.02 that is out now, I watched it and never saw version 1.00 or 1.01. Are the ports frozen _except_for_security_fixes or am i missing something. I looked around on the lists for this but didn't see it and it seems like a fairly big deal if security issues arise during a freeze. Thanks in advance, Aaron From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 18:24:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A778616A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:24:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail1.computerking.ca (computerking.ca [209.115.173.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 587EE43D48 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:24:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from maillist@computerking.ca) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (v22001.computerking.ca [192.168.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail1.computerking.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 758B910 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:24:17 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <417E9651.3020109@computerking.ca> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:24:17 -0600 From: RYAN vAN GINNEKEN User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040803 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: procmail postfix maildir X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:24:18 -0000 I am useing Freebsd 4.10stable, postfix 2.1.5 with SASL and TLS, procmail version 3.22 and binc IMAP 1.2.8 binc uses Maildir style mail boxes and i have everthing set up to for $HOME/IMAPdir. Funny thing is pocmail sends me the mails it filters fine but the stuff it doesnt filter gets lost in my system mail box /var/mail/rmvg. I have included my .procmailrc, rc.test (reciepe file with test rule), and pmlog(procmail log with verbose enabled) also a postconf -n file for all to see and hopefully someone can help me solve this problem. .procmailrc #### Begin Variables section #### # It is essential that you set SHELL to a Bourne-type shell if # external commands are run from your procmailrc, for example if # you use rc.spamassassin, rc.quarantine, or other advanced recipes. # Setting SHELL should not be needed for the simple sorting recipes in # this step-by-step section, but to be safe and to future proof your # procmailrc, set it anyway! Details are in Check Your $SHELL and $PATH. SHELL=/bin/sh #PATH=$HOME/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/bin:. # Directory for storing procmail configuration and log files # You can name this variable anything you like, for # example PROCMAILDIR or don't set it (but then don't refer to it!) PMDIR=$HOME/Procmail # LOGFILE should be specified ASAP so everything below it is logged # Put ## before LOGFILE if you want no logging (not recommended) LOGFILE=$PMDIR/pmlog # To insert a blank line between each message's log entry, # uncomment next two lines (this is helpful for debugging) LOG=" " # Set to yes when debugging; VERBOSE default is no VERBOSE=yes # Replace $HOME/Msgs with the directory where your personal (non-system-spool) mail # Mutt and elm use $HOME/Mail # Pine uses $HOME/mail # Netscape Messenger uses $HOME/nsmail # Some NNTP clients, such as slrn & nn, use $HOME/News # Mailboxes in maildir format or served by Courier IMAP are often in $HOME/Maildir # Mailboxes served by UW IMAP are sometimes in $HOME MAILDIR=$HOME/IMAPdir # This directory must exist & be writable by your LOGNAME #DEFAULT=IN-catchall # On most systems, your $MAILDIR is a sub # IMPORTANT: Upon reading a line that begins with MAILDIR= # Procmail does a chdir to $MAILDIR and # relative paths are relative to $MAILDIR #### End Variables section; Begin Processing section #### INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/rc.testing #INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/rc.subscriptions # Messages that fall through all your procmail recipes are delivered # to your default INBOX. To find out yours, see step 2 above. #### End Processing section #### rc.testing :0 * ^Subject:.*test IN-testing/ #IN-testing #IN-testing/ #IN-testing/. #.IN-testing pmlog procmail: [10251] Tue Oct 26 00:11:32 2004 procmail: Assigning "MAILDIR=/home/rmvg/IMAPdir" procmail: Assigning "INCLUDERC=/home/rmvg/Procmail/rc.testing" procmail: No match on "^Subject:.*test" procmail: Bypassed locking "/var/mail/rmvg.lock" procmail: Assigning "LASTFOLDER=/var/mail/rmvg" procmail: Opening "/var/mail/rmvg" procmail: Acquiring kernel-lock procmail: Notified comsat: "rmvg@1450267:/var/mail/rmvg" From skinnman@yahoo.com Tue Oct 26 00:11:32 2004 Subject: procmail final Folder: /var/mail/rmvg 885 procmail: [10252] Tue Oct 26 00:11:41 2004 procmail: Assigning "MAILDIR=/home/rmvg/IMAPdir" procmail: Assigning "INCLUDERC=/home/rmvg/Procmail/rc.testing" procmail: Match on "^Subject:.*test" procmail: Assigning "LASTFOLDER=IN-testing/new/1098771101.10252_0.v22.computerking. procmail: Notified comsat: "rmvg@0:/home/rmvg/IMAPdir/IN-testing/new/1098771101.102 From skinnman@yahoo.com Tue Oct 26 00:11:41 2004 Subject: procmail testing Folder: IN-testing/new/1098771101.10252_0.v22.computerking.ca 848 postconf -n alias_database = hash:/etc/aliases alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases broken_sasl_auth_clients = yes command_directory = /usr/local/sbin config_directory = /usr/local/etc/postfix daemon_directory = /usr/local/libexec/postfix debug_peer_level = 2 home_mailbox = IMAPdir/INBOX/ html_directory = no inet_interfaces = all mail_owner = postfix mailq_path = /usr/local/bin/mailq manpage_directory = /usr/local/man mydestination = $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain $mydomain mydomain = computerking.ca myhostname = mail1.computerking.ca mynetworks_style = subnet myorigin = $mydomain newaliases_path = /usr/local/bin/newaliases queue_directory = /var/spool/postfix readme_directory = no relay_domains = $mydestination, shoemasters.computerking.ca, highcoup.ca sample_directory = /usr/local/etc/postfix sendmail_path = /usr/local/sbin/sendmail setgid_group = maildrop smtp_sasl_password_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sasl_passwd smtp_tls_loglevel = 2 smtp_tls_note_starttls_offer = yes smtp_use_tls = yes smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_mynetworks, permit_mx_backup, permit_sasl_authenticated, reject_unauth_destination smtpd_sasl_application_name = smtpd smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = yes smtpd_sasl_local_domain = smtpd_sasl_security_options = noanonymous smtpd_sender_restrictions = permit_mynetworks, permit_mx_backup, permit_sasl_authenticated, reject_unauth_destination smtpd_tls_CAfile = /usr/local/sslcerts/certs/cacert.pem smtpd_tls_auth_only = yes smtpd_tls_cert_file = /usr/local/sslcerts/certs/mail-cert.pem smtpd_tls_key_file = /usr/local/sslcerts/certs/mail-key.pem smtpd_tls_loglevel = 2 smtpd_tls_received_header = yes smtpd_tls_session_cache_timeout = 3600s smtpd_use_tls = yes soft_bounce = no tls_random_source = dev:/dev/urandom unknown_local_recipient_reject_code = 450 virtual_alias_domains = sculpturaldesign.ca, ybotstudios.com virtual_alias_maps = hash:/usr/local/etc/postfix/virtual From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 18:25:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB6BD16A4CF for ; 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Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:24:19 -0600 (MDT envelope-from flowers@nekulturny.org) Received: (from flowers@localhost) by procyon.nekulturny.org (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i9QIOI2h001292; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:24:18 -0600 (MDT envelope-from flowers) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:24:18 -0600 From: Danny MacMillan In-reply-to: To: Ted Mittelstaedt Message-id: <20041026182418.GA867@procyon.nekulturny.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline References: <3.0.6.32.20041025084122.007cdb50@mail.uk2.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: Graham Bentley cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GPL vs BSD Licence X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:25:16 -0000 I will preface my reply with the following disclaimer: I am no lawyer. However as it's clear that you're not either, it makes little practical difference. On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 01:51:02AM -0600, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > ... > > What is ignored is that the GPL contains a loophole - it DOES allow > itself to be violated by a very specific person - the code copyright > holder. There is no violation. The copyright holder is the licensor, not the licensee. No one needs a license to use the materials to which she holds the copyright. A license is used to grant (usually limited) rights to people who do not hold the copyright. The copyright holder, by definition, has those rights and does not need them to be assigned. > The reason is that the GPL is a license that DOES NOT CHANGE the > copyright. No license changes the copyright; see below. > In short, if you apply the real live BSD license to your code, you > are explicitly transferring your copyright to the Regents of the > University of California. This is nonsense. Copyright assignment and licensing are separate and discrete. You certainly can assign your copyright to the Regents if you wish. This has no doubt been done. However, you can assign your copyright to anyone you wish, regardless of the license that is used. In fact, the instant you assign your copyright you no longer have the right to decide under what license the copyrighted material will be provided (if at all), although when assigning to the Regents "BSD" is a pretty safe bet. Furthermore, licensing material under the BSD license does not imply that the copyright will be transferred to the Regents. The copyright holder is identified at the top of the BSD license; this information is important as it identifies the licensor, one party to the agreement represented by the license. For material you wrote, you are the copyright holder unless and until you explicitly assign the copyright to another entity, or you're under some agreement with someone (with your employer, for example) that causes the copyright for the product of your work to belong to them. Identifying the Regents as the copyright holder at the top of a BSD license pertaining to material you wrote probably is legally sufficient to transfer the copyright to them, but you are not obligated to identify them as the copyright holder or relinquish your copyright just to use the BSD license. I refer you to the license itself: http://www.opensource.org/licenses/bsd-license.php Note the placeholder for . I fully expect you to argue that a BSD license that does not identify the Regents of the University of California is not "the real live BSD license". I would disagree. By what criteria can an authentic BSD license be distinguished from lesser imitations? I doubt that whether the Regents are the licensor are not is a criteria in common use -- see above web site, which is about as authoritative a reference as exists for free and open source licenses. It's also instructive to peruse the source code for the ostensibly BSD-licensed FreeBSD operating system and see who holds the copyright. Most of the rest of your arguments, being based on this fallacy, is invalid. To the extent that your arguments against the GPL are valid, they are equally valid arguments against the BSD license. > > ... > > In short, Linus Torvalds owns copyright on the Linux kernel used in > Linux. He is legally free to license a copy of the Linux kernel > to any commercial entity. Granted, he cannot license out any files > of the Linux kernel that he himself didn't write. And of course, > an OS is so complex and has so many files, that it would be likely > that a purely Linus Torvalds kernel would be unrunnable. (at lest > the kernel of today) > > But in theory he could take his code and license it to some UNIX > vendor separately, he is not obligated to license new versions of > it under the GPL. > > Now, you might think "So what, Linus will never do this" > > But, what if he dies of a heart attack tomorrow? Well, his copyright > of Linux is property that will exist for another 70 years. What happens > if some company like SCO Group comes along and offers Linus's heirs > a million dollars to purchase the Linux kernel copyright? Do you > think they wouldn't sell? > > Sure, the GPL'd version of the kernel is still out there. But, the > copyright owner could make hay with the subsequent confusion. > > These issues are NOT speculative and are NOT unknown by the Free Software > Foundation, who is the copyright holder of the GPL license itself. > In fact, the FSF advises authors to transfer copyright rights of their > work to the FSF to avoid these problems. Ah, so your point is that people should transfer their copyrights to an organization dedicated to keeping the code free. Well, maybe they should, but that has nothing to do with which license is used. > But, very few have done so. It appears most GPL license proponents > who write code they put under the GPL are more than willing to blather > on about how great the GPL is, but when it comes to putting their > money where their mouth is, they are unwilling to back up what they > say. > > The day that Linuc transfers his Linux copyright to the FSF I will > start respecting what he has to say about licensing. Until then, > what he is saying is pure bullshit. An interesting turn of phrase. > Ted Mittelstaedt -- Danny From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 18:29:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 394E116A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:29:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp2.tsgincorporated.com (ns2.tsgincorporated.com [67.66.242.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F050743D39 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:29:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micheal@tsgincorporated.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.tsgincorporated.com [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2.tsgincorporated.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E6CF28DE37; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:29:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from smtp2.tsgincorporated.com ([127.0.0.1])port 10024) with ESMTP id 87929-06; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:29:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from smtp3.tsgincorporated.com (support.tsgincorporated.com [67.66.242.9]) by smtp2.tsgincorporated.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF48128DE33; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:29:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from micheal (micheal.tsgincorporated.com [67.66.242.77]) by smtp3.tsgincorporated.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 0066162896; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:29:48 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <02fe01c4bb89$c70d5570$4df24243@tsgincorporated.com> From: "Micheal Patterson" To: References: <1a5.29af5401.2eafe426@aol.com> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:29:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Virus-Scanned: by AV Subsystem at smtp2.tsgincorporated.com cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:29:54 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: TM4525@aol.com To: micheal@tsgincorporated.com Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 12:32 PM Subject: Re: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows In a message dated 10/26/04 12:24:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, micheal@tsgincorporated.com writes: > If you think that administering a Windows server is so simple then > answer the following test: > > How do you lock down an Exchange 5.5 server to prevent a spammer from > using it as a relay. > So who was the one who said either was "easy"? I said it takes a higher talent level to generally administer a un*x box than a windows box. I don't think that just because you can think of something thats not easy to do in windows makes any point at all. The fact that a un*x guy had to be called in to solve the problem says alot about the type of talent that is required to do most things that windows techs do. ------------- I agree with you. However, it wasn't I that posed that question. :) -- Micheal Patterson Senior Communications Systems Engineer 405-917-0600 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 18:35:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53E0616A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:35:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E651943D3F for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:35:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from TM4525@aol.com) Received: from TM4525@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id v.e3.4beaba9 (3866); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:35:23 -0400 (EDT) From: TM4525@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:35:23 EDT To: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5114 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:35:45 -0000 In a message dated 10/26/04 10:07:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time, keramida@ceid.upatras.gr writes: [much snippage] >Nonsense, if you ask me. For many reasons: > >a. Windows doesn't work nicely even for small networks most of the time. > >It's not the size of the network that matters. It's the nature of the >network. Homogeneous, Windows-only networks will usually work somehow; >not optimally, mind you, but they can be coerced into working. >Heterogeneous networking environments, with many different types and >versions of operating systems, are not so easy to use from Windows. the same can be said of Cisco based networks. Everything works "better" with products of the same make. Even NFS between different un*x boxes has issues. Integration is what separates the men from the boys, so don't complain. If it were "easy" most of us would be doing something else. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 18:50:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1C4A16A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:50:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-m20.mx.aol.com (imo-m20.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31CA643D48 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:50:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from TM4525@aol.com) Received: from TM4525@aol.com by imo-m20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id n.1e0.2d870451 (3866) for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:50:17 -0400 (EDT) From: TM4525@aol.com Message-ID: <1e0.2d870451.2eaff668@aol.com> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:50:16 EDT To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5114 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Re: GPL vs BSD Licence X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:50:23 -0000 In a message dated 10/26/04 2:26:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, flowers@users.sourceforge.net writes: > Foundation, who is the copyright holder of the GPL license itself. > In fact, the FSF advises authors to transfer copyright rights of their > work to the FSF to avoid these problems. >Ah, so your point is that people should transfer their copyrights to an >organization dedicated to keeping the code free. Well, maybe they should,>but that has nothing to do with which license is used. I think they both have it wrong. If you want to donate your code to the general community, make it available with no restrictions. The entire concept of "here, use my crappy code but don't make any money off of it" is totally lame. If someone takes it and doesn't give away the changes it doesn't diminish the original contribution. Its still there. Finishing a product is what has value. Anyone can write code that does this or that. Making it into something that someone is willing to pay for is what has value. And the more products that are available, the better off the community is. Even if they're not free. You still have the choice of paying for it or not. And you still have the original contribution to change as you please. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 18:54:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1361316A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:54:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C157243D49 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:54:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsdjunkie@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so211255wri for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:54:06 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=WqL4xYP06eBnsbrIKv05maQgRk+yqtGcwi3QJlws8iLshZwLg+jliJ0wi+i1Xd8LZbqdF9Jl1mtlumlXwSQgoG7fHlwkcefGBSzbw/eeFxIlIn9yRAnSNmwnWRAGbUjcX1iTq308JJU05a1uMxVyJ5p1ZKGhiAx3zkGt5uSn8q8= Received: by 10.38.209.71 with SMTP id h71mr641621rng; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:54:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.164.79 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:54:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <32ab229c0410261154b0064c9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:54:06 -0600 From: Gordon Freeman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: First impressions of FreeBSD 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gordon Freeman List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:54:07 -0000 Well, After upgrading a very vanilla 5.2.1 to 5.3 a lot of things are just broken. ipfstat doesn't run. The error: openkmem:open:no such file or directory My RAID card (Adaptec 2150 using asr driver) is inaccessible because the rasr control device no longer exists. Making raidutil useless. And the server runs incredibly slow. (No I didn't leave in the testing options) The upgrade was far from smooth for me. Which was mostly my fault (/usr/src/UPDATING is a must read) but that doesn't really explain why things are running so badly on this box. ACPI is disabled, and aside from including IPF and SMP options into the kernel, it is a very generic kernel as well. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 19:17:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA61816A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:17:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.istop.com (smtp.istop.com [66.11.167.126]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DED643D2D for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:17:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from login@istop.com) Received: from istop.com (ns.istop.com [66.11.168.199]) by smtp.istop.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 788F42B3C0; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:20:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:17:45 -0400 (EDT) To: From: X-Mailer: TWIG 2.7.6 X-Remote-IP: 67.69.27.58 Message-Id: <20041026192053.788F42B3C0@smtp.istop.com> Subject: Re: Only Template file not copied to sub-directories at cvs checkout time X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:17:46 -0000 Hello, Here is current environment: On cvs client host: # uname -a FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE # cvs -v Concurrent Versions System (CVS) 1.11.5-FreeBSD (client/server) .. On Server host: # uname -a FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE # cvsd -V cvsd 1.0.0 On client host, I have initiated these commands: # export CVSROOT=:pserver:user@ip.add.re.ss:/var/cvsroot # export CVS_RSH=/usr/bin/rsh # mkdir cvs-test; cd cvs-test # cvs co project/alpha/section1 When I modify a file at section1 level, and issue cvs commit, the Template is perfact in the CVS directory and I see that being called and added the following lines at the top of log: PR# (blank if N/a): Feature Title (max 30 characters): Modules Affected (max 30 characters): Change PR status to fixed?(y/n): Log Message: However, if I modify a file in the subdirecotry of section1 (say for example subdir1), the Template file is not in the CVS directory anymore at that level. How comes the CVS/Template is only copies at top level but not subdirectories levels at the cvs checkout time? Btw, other files in CVS are copied at all levels but Template which is only at top-level. S. Mohammad [login@istop.com] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 19:37:17 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C62E16A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:37:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [195.170.0.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 043F443D4C for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:37:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-b184.otenet.gr [212.205.244.192]) i9QJapKt000350; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 22:36:57 +0300 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i9QJallg040385; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 22:36:47 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id i9QJalbA040384; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 22:36:47 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 22:36:47 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: TM4525@aol.com Message-ID: <20041026193647.GB40173@gothmog.gr> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:37:17 -0000 On 2004-10-26 14:35, TM4525@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 10/26/04 10:07:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >keramida@ceid.upatras.gr writes: >> Nonsense, if you ask me. For many reasons: >> >> a. Windows doesn't work nicely even for small networks most of the time. >> It's not the size of the network that matters. It's the nature of the >> network. Homogeneous, Windows-only networks will usually work somehow; >> not optimally, mind you, but they can be coerced into working. >> Heterogeneous networking environments, with many different types and >> versions of operating systems, are not so easy to use from Windows. > > the same can be said of Cisco based networks. Everything works "better" > with products of the same make. Even NFS between different un*x boxes has > issues. The fact that Cisco does something wrong doesn't somehow make it right for Windows. It's not a good excuse either. > Integration is what separates the men from the boys, so don't complain. > If it were "easy" most of us would be doing something else. I don't see you supporting UNIX because "it's harder to use, so it must be what 'real men' use". Probably because this sort of argument is pointless. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 19:44:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 214C016A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:44:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from galaxy.systems.pipex.net (galaxy.systems.pipex.net [62.241.162.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4685443D1F for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:44:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mark.cullen@dsl.pipex.com) Received: from [10.0.0.247] (81-178-72-203.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.72.203]) by galaxy.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 430C3E00030B; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:44:32 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <417EA926.4020702@dsl.pipex.com> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:44:38 +0100 From: Mark Cullen User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gordon Freeman References: <32ab229c0410261154b0064c9@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <32ab229c0410261154b0064c9@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: First impressions of FreeBSD 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:44:35 -0000 Gordon Freeman wrote: > Well, After upgrading a very vanilla 5.2.1 to 5.3 a lot of things are > just broken. > > ipfstat doesn't run. The error: > openkmem:open:no such file or directory > > My RAID card (Adaptec 2150 using asr driver) is inaccessible because > the rasr control device no longer exists. Making raidutil useless. > > And the server runs incredibly slow. (No I didn't leave in the testing options) > > The upgrade was far from smooth for me. Which was mostly my fault > (/usr/src/UPDATING is a must read) but that doesn't really explain why > things are running so badly on this box. > > ACPI is disabled, and aside from including IPF and SMP options into > the kernel, it is a very generic kernel as well. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Not an answer to your question but on my (old 133MHz) box 5.x is alot lot slower than 4.x. But I think the general response there will be... you shouldn't run 5.x on such a slow box :) -- Internet Explorer? Try FireFox at http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ Outlook Express? Try ThunderBird at http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 19:45:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41D8416A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:45:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx2.mail.ru (mx2.mail.ru [194.67.23.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED05243D54 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:45:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from infofarmer@mail.ru) Received: from [83.237.61.203] (port=2602 helo=[172.17.0.70]) by mx2.mail.ru with esmtp id 1CMXGW-000PSZ-00 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 23:45:56 +0400 Message-ID: <417EA97A.9000206@mail.ru> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 23:46:02 +0400 From: "Andrew P." User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam: Not detected Subject: Network speed mysteries X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: infofarmer@mail.ru List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:45:58 -0000 Dear friends I have just stumbled upon a phenomena, which I cannot believe is real, though I reproduced it easily. Some days ago I have set up a FreeBSD-4.10 file-server. I have a small network in my room (3 boxes, 100Mbps). I uploaded some files from my Windows 2000 PC, using the latest version of FileZilla client. The speed was pretty constant at 9.5Mbytes/s. Two days ago I switched to Windows XP SP2, reinstalled all the software and was taken aback when I tried to upload some more files and the speed never exceeded 3.5Mb/s. I browsed and googled for some hours, made dozens of assumptions, tried to reconfigure both Windows and FreeBSD - but it was all in vain. Just an hour ago I decided to rebuild the file-server kernel - and it takes time to build it there, as it's an old Celeron box with little RAM. By coincidence, some files were being uploaded just when I entered "make buildkernel ...". I looked at FileZilla windows, expecting to see the speed drop - but WOW! - the speed was at 7Mbytes/s!!! It then hovered around 6.5-9Mbytes/s while the kernel was being built! I waited for some minutes until the kernel was finally built - and the upload speed dropped back to 2.5-3.5Mb/s. I couldn't believe it - and I still can't - so I waited and built a kernel once more - with all the same effects on speed! It's worth to mention, that when I was installing the built kernel, the speed didn't change from usual 3Mb/s. Please let me know what the heck is going on - or just what you think about it. Best regards, Andrew P. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 19:53:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30C9D16A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:53:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay12-f20.bay12.hotmail.com [64.4.35.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19A6543D2D for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:53:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from spiraleyedgirl@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:53:02 -0700 Received: from 69.150.133.32 by by12fd.bay12.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:52:17 GMT X-Originating-IP: [69.150.133.32] X-Originating-Email: [spiraleyedgirl@hotmail.com] X-Sender: spiraleyedgirl@hotmail.com From: "Spiral Eyed Girl" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:52:17 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Oct 2004 19:53:02.0724 (UTC) FILETIME=[67161C40:01C4BB95] Subject: RE: interim port versions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:53:07 -0000 Qucik question: Whats a port freeze? >From: "Aaron P. Martinez" >To: questions@FreeBSD.org >Subject: interim port versions >Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 18:48:18 -0500 > > >I'm new to the bsd's, came from linux and i'm having a bit of difficulty >figuring out the general philosophy. > >One of the major reasons that i decided to try out the 'bsds' is >because of the security. I'm having a hard time however figuring out >how security issues in the ports get dealt with when there is a port >freeze, like now. The best example i can think of is gaim...(i almost >didn't recheck the port on the 4.10 tree, it's now mysteriously up to >date, phew.) > >......slightly altered next paragraph.... >lets say i found out there is a msn slp buffer overflow (like currently) >and i wanted to protect myself....so i cvsuped my ports tree and then >wanted to portupgrade....... problem is...since it's a port freeze...up >until a few days ago it's still at 0.82 not the 1.02 that is out now, I >watched it and never saw version 1.00 or 1.01. Are the ports frozen >_except_for_security_fixes or am i missing something. > > >I looked around on the lists for this but didn't see it and it seems >like a fairly big deal if security issues arise during a freeze. > >Thanks in advance, > >Aaron > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! hthttp://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 20:09:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E97B616A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:09:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nc-tor-mx1.connection.ca (nc-tor-mx1.connection.ca [205.207.122.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE59F43D1F for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:09:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sfulton@connection.ca) Received: by nc-tor-mx1.connection.ca (Postfix, from userid 65501) id A69D72DCD73; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:09:32 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from nc-tor-mail1.connection.ca (nc-tor-mail1.connection.ca [205.207.122.26]) by nc-tor-mx1.connection.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79D432DCD71 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:09:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [216.234.51.37] (unknown [216.234.51.37]) by nc-tor-mail1.connection.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF71D44B3C9 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:09:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <417EAEFB.2040108@connection.ca> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:09:31 -0400 From: Stephen Fulton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: linux_base compatibility issue? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:09:35 -0000 Hi Derrick, Did you find a solution to your problem with FBSD 4.x and CS:Source? I'm running into the same issue now. -- Stephen. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 20:10:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 721C016A4CF for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:10:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.chrononomicon.com (chrononomicon.com [216.37.143.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2294843D1F for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:10:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [192.168.0.42]) by mail.chrononomicon.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CCCE1779F6 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:10:14 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <099BC0FC-278B-11D9-86EF-000D9338770A@chrononomicon.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:10:09 -0400 To: questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Subject: Re: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:10:41 -0000 On Oct 26, 2004, at 2:35 PM, TM4525@aol.com wrote: > Integration is what separates the men from the boys, so don't complain. > If it were "easy" most of us would be doing something else. Not necessarily. Changing your oil isn't that hard. Most people pay someone else to do it though. Fixing a hole in drywall isn't that hard. Most people pay someone else to do it though. Even mowing a yard isn't hard, but many people out there still hire people to do it for them. "easy" doesn't mean that the service niche goes away; as long as people are busy enough that the job is an inconvenience to do themselves, there's always a demand for the service, easy or not. Sorry, know this is probably a tangent from what was implied, but I get tired of people saying that we need our stress and problems because if it were easy we'd all be out of jobs. We'd be paid far less if it were a commodity service, perhaps, but it doesn't automatically mean we're going to be jobless just because we made a network or system that works...if anything, it means we could finally focus on training users and creating training materials for them to help them use the system we put into place! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 20:13:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A749516A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:13:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from webmail.maa-net.net (h00095b009f6b.ne.client2.attbi.com [66.30.61.123]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3167343D46 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:13:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from michaela@maa-net.net) Received: from bsd.maa-net.net (bsd.maa-net.net [192.168.0.4]) by webmail.maa-net.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i9QKDXNR000306 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:13:33 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from michaela@maa-net.net) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:13:32 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael A. Alestock" To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041026161139.I506@bsd.maa-net.net> X-Priority: 1 X-MSMAIL-Priority: high X-message-flag: "MS-Outlook: A program to spread virii, but can do mail too." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: FreeBSD and UPS's X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:13:34 -0000 I was just curious if FreeBSD supports any of the UPS's that have the automated powerdown feature in the event of powerloss (APM)? ---------------------------------------------------- Michael A. Alestock, - Computer Systems Support/UNIX Support Specialist (Geek) - Information Systems Dept, Lawrence General Hospital, Lawrence, Mass. 01843 - PGPKey: http://www.maa-net.net/~michaela/pgpkey.asc ----------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 20:31:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 797D516A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:31:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24AD243D41 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:31:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jianguang.xu@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 65so255744wri for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:31:54 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=fjXc6uweZHqXupUT8prE7Y7Gvm1RjHV9o52agVX9Ng8P3e4GlbArtsmBpp599DEo9QtTbEfg5YNNBRgb3C4INqfrFlSvDAxlmx2aG9gVJiST96rQ2FBIU/cr58eIcg0dlm1SY3pwvmQ/m1hoD2xJu9s1SJZJ8okqoTIZVpqkjLM= Received: by 10.38.218.39 with SMTP id q39mr497908rng; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:31:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.102.16 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:31:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <274e8bdc041026133120a464ff@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:31:53 -0400 From: Jian Guang Xu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: some advice needed to considering to move my w2k machine into a freebsd workstation. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jian Guang Xu List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:31:55 -0000 My current system follows: AMD Athlon 1600+, 1 Gigabytes RAM, 40 Giga harddrive, GeForce 2 with 32 Mb, AC97 Onboard Audio Adaptor, D-Link DFE-538TX. The system got follow applications: W2K Workstation Professional runs very smooth right now. Firefox 1.0 for most of the web surfing. IE occasionally but nessary for some of the website I need to go to due to personally reason. Thunderbird for me email and newsgroup reading. VMWare to testing FreeBSD. ACT! 2005 as a CRM software(personal organizor as well) but I'm trying to move to a internet application via www.freecrm.com OpenOffice currently runs in my system with MS Office removed. Acrobat 5.0 for form editing(Occasionally) MusicMatch for online radio (all the time) Realplayer for DVD/Movie(Occasionally) I have online conference calls using MS Media Player Plugin which is very important for me. Zonealarm as my firewall, Norton Antirus. I'm using a home network connected to Rogers High Speed via DHCP protocol, another machine is a XP laptop. My job is in Marketing field so I do need the system to be robust and more productivity. At the same time, I have the dream to play OS around and hack into the system at my spare time. To be honest, I'm pretty happy with my current system with all the feature I specified. Is there anybody could point out a way to play FreeBSD around and at the same time, I could perform my job easily? As I said, I need the Media Player plug in a lot, and any suggestion for a CRM software under BSD would be much appreciated. I gotta be very careful to change a system. I thank you for reading my nonsense post and hoping that if somebody could give me some advice. JX From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 20:37:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74C3A16A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:37:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4793743D3F for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:37:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C2DF351221; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:38:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:38:44 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20041026203844.GA76202@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20041026024356.GA96981@thought.org> <20041026035437.GA30968@xor.obsecurity.org> <20041026045647.GA97200@thought.org> <20041026072623.GA64337@xor.obsecurity.org> <20041026073850.GA97684@thought.org> <20041026160137.GA31869@xor.obsecurity.org> <20041026170831.GB40348@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041026170831.GB40348@thought.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: FreeBSD Mailing List cc: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: lib/pam problems... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:37:49 -0000 --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 10:08:32AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > Rats! I started fresh with my 5.2 CD then upgraded to > (I thought) RELENG_5, but ended up building 4.whatever. > On my third try i rebuilt using an explicit _5_3 and > got 5.3-RELEASE #2. tHere are fewer than 30 ports on > my devel box. Would you recommend I portupgrade -fa everything?? Yeah, that might be best. Kris --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBfrXUWry0BWjoQKURAsyHAJ441tXOQ04Ie3eW0GubF52N7eG98ACgy+U7 aRzWwZDc+zl4XeSiYgLQapQ= =PZht -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 20:52:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B62B16A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:52:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from chaos.fxp.org (chaos.fxp.org [209.251.159.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01A3943D39 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:52:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@fxp.org) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c-24-0-83-94.client.comcast.net [24.0.83.94]) by chaos.fxp.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61A9D115; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:52:20 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <20041026161139.I506@bsd.maa-net.net> References: <20041026161139.I506@bsd.maa-net.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bob Bomar Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:52:18 -0500 To: "Michael A. Alestock" X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.0.1 (v33, 10.3) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and UPS's X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:52:22 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Oct 26, 2004, at 3:13 PM, Michael A. Alestock wrote: > I was just curious if FreeBSD supports any of the UPS's that have the > automated powerdown feature in the event of powerloss (APM)? > Look at sysutils/nut and sysutils/apcupsd I have 2 Matrix 5000's connected to a 4.8 machine, and it works fine with nut. - -- Bob Bomar bob@bomar.us http://bob.bomar.us - --------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve http://www.FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFBfrkE9Jm/aTrtdKoRAuh1AJ96ZDoDEMu4ZfJOtbgpKQNeL8SCgACeJU54 RhzNr5AsYJj7t0LYGf0jIRA= =WrhF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 20:53:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7458016A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:53:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FC6D43D1D for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:53:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin08-en2 [10.13.10.153]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id i9QKrSFK015876; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:53:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.1.1.245] (nfw2.codefab.com [199.103.21.225] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0)i9QKrDOI011546; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:53:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <0B7E828C-2791-11D9-A6B1-003065ABFD92@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:53:10 -0400 To: "Aaron P. Martinez" , Spiral Eyed Girl X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: interim port versions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:53:33 -0000 On Oct 26, 2004, at 3:52 PM, Spiral Eyed Girl wrote: > Quick question: Whats a port freeze? Normally, the port committers make changes to the ports tree all of the time, on a continuing basis. A ports freeze occurs to help get the ports tree caught up and avoid making sweeping changes just before a new version of the OS is released. See: http://www.freebsd.org/releng/index.html During a ports freeze, changes need to be approved by portmgr. ------ On Oct 21, 2004, at 7:48 PM, Aaron P. Martinez wrote: > I'm new to the bsd's, came from linux and i'm having a bit of > difficulty > figuring out the general philosophy. OK. (Welcome!) > One of the major reasons that i decided to try out the 'bsds' is > because of the security. I'm having a hard time however figuring out > how security issues in the ports get dealt with when there is a port > freeze, like now. The best example i can think of is gaim...(i almost > didn't recheck the port on the 4.10 tree, it's now mysteriously up to > date, phew.) As I mentioned above, the ports tree still changes during a freeze. Security fixes to ports are very likely to get quick approval by portmgr. > ......slightly altered next paragraph.... > lets say i found out there is a msn slp buffer overflow (like > currently) > and i wanted to protect myself....so i cvsuped my ports tree and then > wanted to portupgrade....... problem is...since it's a port freeze...up > until a few days ago it's still at 0.82 not the 1.02 that is out now, > I > watched it and never saw version 1.00 or 1.01. Are the ports frozen > _except_for_security_fixes or am i missing something. I was going to say, "the latter", but maybe it's a little of both. :-) Note that you are free to update ports manually. Try looking for a PR containing the changes to update the port(s) you care about, or perhaps by doing the work yourself. > I looked around on the lists for this but didn't see it and it seems > like a fairly big deal if security issues arise during a freeze. This issue was recently discussed here: http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=146244+0+/usr/local/www/ db/text/2004/freebsd-current/20041017.freebsd-current http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=149246+0+archive/2004/ freebsd-current/20041017.freebsd-current -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 20:53:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3967116A509 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:53:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.bitfreak.org (mail.bitfreak.org [65.75.198.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C89C43D41 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:53:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmp@bitfreak.org) Received: by mail.bitfreak.org (Postfix, from userid 10800) id B12A219F2D; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:55:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 209.152.53.188 (SquirrelMail authenticated user dmp); by webmail.bitfreak.org with HTTP; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:55:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1172.209.152.53.188.1098824114.squirrel@209.152.53.188> In-Reply-To: <1098820254.417eaa9e77a47@login.bella.lunarpages.com> References: <1098820254.417eaa9e77a47@login.bella.lunarpages.com> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:55:14 -0700 (PDT) From: "Darren Pilgrim" To: "Siavash EDRISI" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Finding the Right Sound Driver ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:53:39 -0000 [Redirected from -newbies.] On Tue, October 26, 2004 12:50 pm, Siavash EDRISI said: > Hi! > > I have been reading the text "Setting Up the Sound Card" at > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/sound-setup.html > > in order to find and install the right driver for the sound card in my > i386. The hardware is an ESS 1869 PCI. Before I had WinXP installed on > this hardware and it reported that the location of the card is: PCI > slot 3 (PCI bus 0, device 14, function 0) > > I did whatever is described in the section 7.2.1 of the manual: > > 1- I checked the entries in "/boot/defaults/loader.conf". The right line > was > snd_sbc_load="NO" > I imagine this means that the driver is already somewhere on the harddisk! It means the kernel will not attempt to load the snd_sbc module at boot. > 2- Then I inserted the following line into /boot/loader.conf > snd_sbc_load="YES" > > 3- I booted the system. > > Right after calling "startx" and entering KDE I got (as usual) the error > message that the sound server could not find the file /dev/dsp. This may be due to a number of reasons. Among them are the snd_sbc driver not being the right driver for your hardware and KDE/X not being configured with the correct device. The first step is to provide copies of the outputs of the commands `uname -a`, `dmesg` and `kldstat`. Did you first try loading snd.ko (4.x) or snd_driver.ko (5.x) and see which driver finds your hardware? > As I read in the manual configuring a custom kernel with sound support is > just a second method and can be used alternatively. So I am not sure if I > really have to do something in the kernel or not, since the first efforts > did not help! Typically you don't need to recompile the kernel just to add something like a sound driver. Loading the module works just fine. Just to be sure, please provide a copy of your kernel configuration file so it can be checked. > Could someone please tell me what I still have to do? Send a reply with the requested, necessary information. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 20:54:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F39BE16A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:54:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC30C43D5D for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:54:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nullpt@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 65so259225wri for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:54:45 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=kfq5YM3h8HTh7t6sQAMgGu9rz5wAM+rCcNS8ZkwQickLTICmsAq90X9iLMAFSNq3ZSwOoaqPJatPDg1SaiVtF+GxO2faGIyqytxyzQKiMD4SBs8VOQAUFP48zL9jYRmuSjgNE/RdDbnH5I+kSB5QwjDLpoLD45pRie4CItKgipE= Received: by 10.38.181.44 with SMTP id d44mr497491rnf; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:54:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.76.20 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:54:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <755cb9fc041026135416b35f88@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:54:45 +0100 From: Alexandre Vieira To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: HT kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Alexandre Vieira List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:54:49 -0000 Hello, I have a machine with an Intel p4 3.2ghz FSB800 w/ 1MB L2 cache and I wanted to know your opinion about some kernel options that would boost the performance of this kind of processor. Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz (3206.95-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf34 Stepping = 4 Features=0xbfebfbff Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs real memory = 2146369536 (2046 MB) avail memory = 2079641600 (1983 MB) FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 2 ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled Will the GENERIC options fit for this or will other options boost this processor to his maxium? I remember in 4.x that HT was an option but now it's seems defaulted. Thanks for your time. Regards. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 21:00:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 732E116A4E4 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:00:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail5.speakeasy.net (mail5.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADDFF43D6D for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:00:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 32280 invoked from network); 26 Oct 2004 21:00:21 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 26 Oct 2004 21:00:21 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id D797869; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:00:20 -0400 (EDT) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: "Joe Stuart" References: From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 26 Oct 2004 17:00:20 -0400 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <44mzy9p53v.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 17 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: remote login problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:00:49 -0000 "Joe Stuart" writes: > I just did a fresh install of freebsd 4.10. Now there is a remote login > limit that is set to 32. I have changed these two options in the kernel > conf and still it does not seem to change. > maxusers 96 > pseudo-device pty 64 > > When I try to login using ssh I get this error message. > Server refused to allocate pty > > I was sure that the pseudo-device option in the kernel would fix it. > Does anyone else have any suggestions? Is there anything in the system logs? Is sshd being affected by any limits(1), particularly from login.conf? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 21:00:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D75E916A4D1 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:00:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47D6643DA7 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:00:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1B6F851495; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:01:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:01:30 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Alexandre Vieira Message-ID: <20041026210129.GA76812@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <755cb9fc041026135416b35f88@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <755cb9fc041026135416b35f88@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HT kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:00:50 -0000 --UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 09:54:45PM +0100, Alexandre Vieira wrote: > Hello, >=20 > I have a machine with an Intel p4 3.2ghz FSB800 w/ 1MB L2 cache and > I wanted to know your opinion about some kernel options that would > boost the performance of this kind of processor. Note that for a lot of workloads HT decreases performance. Kris --UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBfrspWry0BWjoQKURAghAAKCCO3BnRTv0rfyPcEkD27+Fz3NP/QCfVSBp Wcjd7/dNjTMluA2gMX3Bz9I= =QGgm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 21:03:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1664616A4CF for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:03:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A17B043D31 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:03:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kjelderg@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so228489wri for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:02:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=P1AKoER3rsTQtrP4Ax05oJa6AMl4us48t1sOl+dRuB4LYsVtp2LK2i2mWYZ72JFmkbrgGqkgq4F8ntfbkZ+fguVjSuxSVVWoOR92WXQAFl/x9tA4tAykE1BUJH7ezJ+6+50a/FxI+zMk1KyRs68HD4XDtDcDr4YfcJP6s/yXptc= Received: by 10.38.96.46 with SMTP id t46mr727079rnb; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:02:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.15.69 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:02:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:02:14 -0500 From: Eric Kjeldergaard To: Gert Cuykens In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <417D8C33.6080605@nc.rr.com> <200410261518.47337.ekeberg@bigpond.net.au> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Hugh Ekeberg Subject: Re: photoshop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eric Kjeldergaard List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:03:01 -0000 On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:11:45 +0200, Gert Cuykens wrote: > I dont know anything about photoshop, i only know i like building > websites, and every company i want to work for asks photoshop this > flash mx that :( > > So i want to say to my boss screw photoshop i can do the same with gimp :) > Is there a way to translate photoshop files into gimp files and gimp > into photoshop files ? > If I'm understanding this right -- then of course, both editors (gimp and photoshop) deal with jpegs, gifs, bmps, etc...it doesn't do much good in the Real World (TM) to use crazy proprietary formats because browsers/etc simply can't render them. -- If I write a signature, my emails will appear more personalised. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 21:03:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7785016A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:03:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4272C43D39 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:03:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3999F533B8; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:04:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:04:35 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Gordon Freeman Message-ID: <20041026210435.GB76812@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <32ab229c0410261154b0064c9@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="KFztAG8eRSV9hGtP" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <32ab229c0410261154b0064c9@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: First impressions of FreeBSD 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:03:40 -0000 --KFztAG8eRSV9hGtP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 12:54:06PM -0600, Gordon Freeman wrote: > Well, After upgrading a very vanilla 5.2.1 to 5.3 a lot of things are > just broken. >=20 > ipfstat doesn't run. The error: > openkmem:open:no such file or directory >=20 > My RAID card (Adaptec 2150 using asr driver) is inaccessible because > the rasr control device no longer exists. Making raidutil useless. Both of these look bogus..are you certain you upgraded completely? You'll get this kind of problem if your userland, kernel and/or modules are out of sync. > And the server runs incredibly slow. (No I didn't leave in the testing op= tions) Slow doing what? Please provide more information. You also forgot to include details of your hardware. Also, discussions of 5.3 should be sent to current@FreeBSD.org since it's still in development. Kris --KFztAG8eRSV9hGtP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBfrvjWry0BWjoQKURAknvAKDMzv+TyYSnM4i5xHa2vuoVKCOsEQCgquu5 uFKVri7FFPDwQy+QXtsKlsM= =ROUh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --KFztAG8eRSV9hGtP-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 21:06:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEDF216A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:06:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.ehomes-usa.com (mail.resera.com [65.61.153.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3847B43D49 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:06:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lreed@resera.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] [67.102.21.138] by mail.ehomes-usa.com (SMTPD32-8.13) id AAD8199800D0; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:00:08 -0700 Message-ID: <417EBC4F.5090305@resera.com> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:06:23 -0700 From: Leighton Reed User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (Windows/20040803) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-mxGuard-Info: Processed by mail.ehomes-usa.com using mxGuard v1.5.0 X-mxGuard-Spool-ID: bad5199800d04e62 X-mxGuard-Sender: lreed@resera.com X-mxGuard-Native-RelayCount: 1 X-mxGuard-Spam-Score: 1 X-Note: This message has been scanned for spam and viruses using mxGuard for RESERA Subject: sysinstall problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:06:17 -0000 When I run "Standard Installation" from sysinstall I get the following error messages: -unable to make new root file system on /dev/ad0sla! command returned status 36 -Couldn't make filesystems properly. Aborting Can anyone recomend a fix? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 21:08:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51DF216A4CF for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:08:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-m28.mx.aol.com (imo-m28.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D109243D1D for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:08:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from TM4525@aol.com) Received: from TM4525@aol.com by imo-m28.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id v.1d4.2df7fa8c (4254); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:07:50 -0400 (EDT) From: TM4525@aol.com Message-ID: <1d4.2df7fa8c.2eb016a6@aol.com> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:07:50 EDT To: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5114 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:08:06 -0000 In a message dated 10/26/04 3:38:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, keramida@ceid.upatras.gr writes: >The fact that Cisco does something wrong doesn't somehow make it right for >Windows. It's not a good excuse either. Its the way it is, and the way its always been. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 21:10:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EEDA16A530 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:10:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B406D43D5C for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:10:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from 209-6-197-67.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com ([209.6.197.67] helo=jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42 #5) id 1CMYa9-0001Ym-OR for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:10:18 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16766.48348.207202.418746@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:08:44 -0400 To: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <20041026161139.I506@bsd.maa-net.net> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta16) "celeriac" XEmacs Lucid Subject: Re: FreeBSD and UPS's X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:10:40 -0000 Bob Bomar writes: > Look at sysutils/nut and sysutils/apcupsd If you're looking at apcupsd, you will probably want to join the mailing list. There have been huge FreeBSD-related developments in the last 2-3 months (including the ability to use USB UPSs) that are not part of the main code base and therefore not in the port. Robert Huff (currently testing the experimental branch with his BackUPS RS) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 21:13:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0A9D16A4D0 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:13:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.proficuous.com (www.proficuous.com [209.240.79.128]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A93F43D49 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:13:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ml@proficuous.com) Received: from [192.168.3.69] (aaron-workstation.proficuous.com [192.168.3.69]) by mail.proficuous.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8962AA89442; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:13:10 -0500 (CDT) From: "Aaron P. Martinez" To: Adam Seniuk In-Reply-To: <20041026162657.B873943D5D@mx1.FreeBSD.org> References: <20041026162657.B873943D5D@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1098825225.4101.17.camel@aaron.proficuous.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 (1.4.6-2) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:13:46 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2 Network Cards & 2 IP's? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:13:19 -0000 On Tue, 2004-10-26 at 11:27, Adam Seniuk wrote: > Hello; > > > > I am wondering how to get 2 Different network cards to have 2 Different IP's > but I want to have both ips on the same ip block. > > > > For example: > > 192.168.1.100 on NIC 1 > > 192.168.1.101 on NIC 2 > > Gateway 192.168.1.1 > > > > Not sure on how to set it up properly. I would appreciate any help or tips > people have on this subject. and yes I have googled for it but none have > this scenario :D > Probably a better setup for this would be using carp and only one IP address. > > > Sincerely, > > > Adam Seniuk > adams@techweavers.net > Senior Server Administrator > --------------------------------------------- > System Administrator | > Server Administrator || > Database Administrator || > Website Administrator || > -------------------------------------------- > Techweavers Inc. > www.techweavers.net > "Your Website Solution" > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Aaron From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 21:16:04 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73ABF16A5F7 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:16:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from orion.frasa.net (orion.frasa.net [195.241.98.153]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16FD043D58 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:16:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd@orion.frasa.net) Received: from localhost (orion [127.0.0.1]) by orion.frasa.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 987255F5; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 23:16:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from orion.frasa.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (orion.frasa.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30547-08; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 23:15:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: by orion.frasa.net (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8B80A5F3; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 23:15:59 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 23:15:59 +0200 From: Mark Frasa To: Leighton Reed Message-ID: <20041026211559.GA29202@orion.frasa.net> References: <417EBC4F.5090305@resera.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <417EBC4F.5090305@resera.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd at frasa.net cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sysinstall problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mark Frasa List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:16:04 -0000 On 2004.10.26 14:06:23 +0000, Leighton Reed wrote: > When I run "Standard Installation" from sysinstall I get the following > error messages: > -unable to make new root file system on /dev/ad0sla! command returned > status 36 > -Couldn't make filesystems properly. Aborting > Can anyone recomend a fix? > It depends on your hardware. Check this: http://www.google.com/bsd?hl=en&lr=&q=status+36+new+root+file+system&btnG=Google+Search The first 2 links... Mark. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 21:20:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C83816A4D9 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:20:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from helium.webpack.hosteurope.de (helium.webpack.hosteurope.de [217.115.142.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B198043D6B for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:20:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from me@hexren.net) Received: from pd95526ee.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.85.38.238] helo=hexren) by helium.webpack.hosteurope.de with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CMYjp-0006pj-FW; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 23:20:17 +0200 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 23:20:16 +0200 From: Hexren X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62i) Business X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <11516587842.20041026232016@hexren.net> To: "Aaron P. Martinez" In-Reply-To: <1098825225.4101.17.camel@aaron.proficuous.com> References: <20041026162657.B873943D5D@mx1.FreeBSD.org> <1098825225.4101.17.camel@aaron.proficuous.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-HE-MXrcvd: no cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: 2 Network Cards & 2 IP's? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Hexren List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:20:26 -0000 >> >> For example: >> >> 192.168.1.100 on NIC 1 >> >> 192.168.1.101 on NIC 2 >> >> Gateway 192.168.1.1 ---------------------------------- Am I seeing the wrong problem when I say that: #ifconfig NIC1 192.168.1.100 #ifconfig NIC1 192.168.1.101 #route add default 192.168.1.1 should do what you want ? Hexren From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 21:31:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3BD216A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:31:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from grog.secure-computing.net (grog.secure-computing.net [63.228.14.241]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6155E43D54 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:31:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c-66-41-19-61.mn.client2.attbi.com [66.41.19.61]) (authenticated bits=0)i9QLVSdH049601; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:31:28 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) In-Reply-To: <20041026082252.K27291@maren.thelosingend.net> References: <738F95AA-26F6-11D9-BB05-000A958C81C6@ahze.net> <20041026082252.K27291@maren.thelosingend.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-1-259933783" Message-Id: <3B721DDC-2796-11D9-86F0-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Eric Crist Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:30:18 -0500 To: questions@freebsd.org X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.0.2 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version 0.75.1, clamav-milter version 0.75c on grog.secure-computing.net X-Virus-Status: Clean cc: Michael Johnson Subject: Re: 10-13" laptop. Where to buy? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:31:27 -0000 --Apple-Mail-1-259933783 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Oct 26, 2004, at 1:23 AM, Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: > > [Michael Johnson, 2004-10-25] >> I'm looking for a x86 laptop with a 10 to 13" screen but its very >> hard to find one under 14" >> anyone have any ideas of where to look? > > I am very happy with my Dell Latitude X300. What are you looking to use this laptop for? If you just want a tiny laptop with a *nix of some sort, try apple. Otherwise, you can get the little sony laptop. You can find an example here: http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/ SY_BrowseCatalog-Start? 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HTH ----- Eric F Crist Secure Computing Networks --Apple-Mail-1-259933783 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkF+weoACgkQRAAY9knOW+qLAgCfTFaplVp68tYMumYV/k26RFOz r7YAnjuYKHhr7gnyTsdkNJshVN+3lzTR =NZa3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-1-259933783-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 21:31:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96D8916A4CF for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:31:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from post-23.mail.nl.demon.net (post-23.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB54343D45 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:31:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from albi@scii.nl) Received: from aseed.demon.nl ([82.161.136.218]:10061 helo=mail.aseed.antenna.nl) by post-23.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CMYuq-000PGX-UF for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:31:40 +0000 Received: from aseed.demon.nl (unknown [192.168.0.48]) by mail.aseed.antenna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 981751A9A7 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 23:45:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (unknown [192.168.0.48]) by aseed.demon.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34FE82C98A for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 23:31:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aseed.demon.nl ([192.168.0.48]) by localhost (aseed.antenna.nl [192.168.0.48]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12986-09 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 23:31:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: by aseed.demon.nl (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4F2D02C96E; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 23:31:31 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 23:31:31 +0200 From: albi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041026213131.GA13113@aseed.antenna.nl> References: <417D8C33.6080605@nc.rr.com> <200410261518.47337.ekeberg@bigpond.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at aseed.antenna.nl Subject: Re: photoshop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:31:44 -0000 On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 04:02:14PM -0500, Eric Kjeldergaard wrote: > If I'm understanding this right -- then of course, both editors (gimp > and photoshop) deal with jpegs, gifs, bmps, etc...it doesn't do much > good in the Real World (TM) to use crazy proprietary formats because > browsers/etc simply can't render them. There's more than just pictures in browsers, if you want pictures to be printed by a professional printer then those printers usually like to have the "original" format, not just the jpg or png end-result. For Gimp it's .xcf and for Photo$hop it's .pdf. And .. Gimp can read .psd From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 21:42:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3118516A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:42:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pd3mo3so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E840143D2F for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:42:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from flowers@nekulturny.org) Received: from pd3mr3so.prod.shaw.ca (pd3mr3so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.179]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0I6700H4VOA48CD0@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:42:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml2so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.146]) by pd3mr3so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0I6700JRDOA4DEK0@pd3mr3so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:42:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from procyon.nekulturny.org (S0106000c41b2b9a3.cg.shawcable.net [68.144.45.143]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.18 (built Jul 28 2003)) with ESMTP id <0I6700G0LOA4JY@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:42:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from procyon.nekulturny.org (localhost.nekulturny.org [127.0.0.1]) i9QLg3UU001722; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:42:03 -0600 (MDT envelope-from flowers@nekulturny.org) Received: (from flowers@localhost) by procyon.nekulturny.org (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i9QLg2fK001721; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:42:02 -0600 (MDT envelope-from flowers) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:42:01 -0600 From: Danny MacMillan In-reply-to: To: Eric Kjeldergaard Message-id: <20041026214201.GB867@procyon.nekulturny.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline References: <417D8C33.6080605@nc.rr.com> <200410261518.47337.ekeberg@bigpond.net.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: Hugh Ekeberg cc: Gert Cuykens cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: photoshop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:42:33 -0000 On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 03:02:14PM -0600, Eric Kjeldergaard wrote: > On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:11:45 +0200, Gert Cuykens > wrote: > > Is there a way to translate photoshop files into gimp files and gimp > > into photoshop files ? > > If I'm understanding this right -- then of course, both editors (gimp > and photoshop) deal with jpegs, gifs, bmps, etc...it doesn't do much > good in the Real World (TM) to use crazy proprietary formats because > browsers/etc simply can't render them. True, but the crazy proprietary formats are still important because you lose information when you convert a Photoshop document to a raster image, in just the same way as you lose information when you convert a C source file into an object file. -- Danny From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 21:46:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59C7A16A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:46:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ECC643D45 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:46:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nullpt@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 65so266143wri for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:46:53 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=nGQOzkLzlC4Aa4Z62L78wxW0ndTrFnts4p631LveO2IsWsf+gb1Zj3AO1c1IgbSMygQl4mNVkfDzuNQlBG+UCmdxeQmaY1BNmwKDpzyDlzewPjGo3D74KS8ZbvZFSzxxoSTyLW+75NKGu4lCP9i8FGuj9JlhbNIc83PsO+IWAbY= Received: by 10.38.181.44 with SMTP id d44mr518476rnf; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:46:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.76.20 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:46:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <755cb9fc04102614461e0d7c9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 22:46:53 +0100 From: Alexandre Vieira To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Compiling PF and IPFW in the same kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Alexandre Vieira List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:46:54 -0000 Hello, Anyone knows if there is any problem in compiling ipfw and pf in the same kernel? Which one will be turned of by default? Or will they both be turned on? Will the default rule for PF be allow all ? Sorry for the mass questioning! thanks for your time :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 22:15:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AF3416A4CF for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 22:15:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fidel.freesurf.fr (fidel.freesurf.fr [212.43.206.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A97F543D46 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 22:15:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from olivier@gautherot.net) Received: from [62.240.243.234] (62-240-243-234.adsl.claranet.fr [62.240.243.234]) by fidel.freesurf.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CF222A5D21 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 00:15:26 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <417ECC7F.4090305@gautherot.net> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 00:15:27 +0200 From: Olivier Gautherot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041001 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <41772D08.8000805@gautherot.net> <44r7nqeugm.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> In-Reply-To: <44r7nqeugm.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: something: DESTDIR is not a user settable variable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 22:15:29 -0000 >>I'm hitting regularly the same problem with various ports that deinstall >>properly during upgrades but won't reinstall. I had the case with firefox >>this morning. >> >>The typical message is: >> >> bash-2.05b$ sudo make install clean >> firefox-1.0.1.p_4: DESTDIR is not a user settable variable >> *** Error code 1 >> >>Can anyone tell me where the message is coming from and how to >>overcome it? I've tried to grep "user settable" but did not find it... >> >>For what it's worth, here is my uname -a: >> FreeBSD ogautherot.og-lan.freesurf.fr 5.2.1-RELEASE >> FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE #0: Mon Jul 5 19:32:44 CEST 2004 >> root@ogautherot.og-lan.freesurf.fr:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/OG_CONF i386 >> >> > >What's in your make.conf file? [Not DESTDIR, is it?] > > > Hi Gilbert! No, it is not defined there. The funny bit in this story is that it does not always happen and the same package may work in one shell and fail in another one... Weird... I guess I'll wait for the problem to occur again, run a printenv and compare it with a shell that does work. Thanks for the tip anyway! Cheers Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 22:29:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD71716A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 22:29:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web51301.mail.yahoo.com (web51301.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.167]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 38AD843D2D for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 22:29:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gooober33-freebsd@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20041026222947.73760.qmail@web51301.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.23.59.188] by web51301.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:29:47 PDT Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:29:47 -0700 (PDT) From: BSDjunkie To: Tuc , Chuck Swiger In-Reply-To: <200410241338.i9ODc0Wh028332@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: IDE drive - "hard error reading fsbn..." - recoverable? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: gooober33-freebsd@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 22:29:48 -0000 You could try using SpinRite. http://www.grc.com It now works with all filesystems and is up to version 6. Mark --- Tuc wrote: > > > Problem is, unless it fails the Dell Power on > IDE test, they won't > > > replace it. :-/ Guess I just keep backing it up > until it fails totally. > > > > Get a Dell diagnostic disk for your system, and > run the hard drive test. It > > ought to see the problems, which you can then > report back to Dell in order to > > get them to do something. > > > Sorry, I should have mentioned I used the BIOS > based disk check and > it passed. Maybe I do need to go to the more > extensive one. > > Thanks, Tuc > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 23:31:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDAE016A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 23:31:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from theatre.msu.edu (theatre.msu.edu [35.8.69.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90EE943D39 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 23:31:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sagejona@theatre.msu.edu) Received: from [10.0.0.98] (c-67-172-92-122.client.comcast.net [67.172.92.122]) (authenticated bits=0) by theatre.msu.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i9QNWLYM045100 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:32:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from sagejona@theatre.msu.edu) Message-ID: <417EDE51.4010909@theatre.msu.edu> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:31:29 -0400 From: "Jonathan T. Sage" Organization: MSU Dept of Theatre User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gordon Freeman References: <32ab229c0410261154b0064c9@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <32ab229c0410261154b0064c9@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime X-Phone: +1-517-974-1428 X-WWW-Home-Page: http://theatre.msu.edu X-PGP-Key-Figerprint: 182C CF3F 93A9 1DAA 2EBE D4D5 A159 96D9 452E A7F1 X-IM: AIM(jonathantsage,spartyman), ICQ(9587621), YIM(wisesage98) Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig985435881C685F1784333338" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on www.theatre.msu.edu X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040903, clamav-milter version 0.75l on www.theatre.msu.edu X-Virus-Status: Clean cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: First impressions of FreeBSD 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 23:31:28 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig985435881C685F1784333338 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gordon Freeman wrote: > > ipfstat doesn't run. The error: > openkmem:open:no such file or directory device mem in your kernel config. this bit me in the ass as well. ~j -- Jonathan T. Sage Theatrical Lighting / Set Designer Professional Web Design "He said he likes me, but he's not in-like with me."- Connie, King of the Hill [HTTP://www.JTSage.com] [HTTP://design.JTSage.com] [sagejona@msu.edu] [See Headers for Contact Info] --------------enig985435881C685F1784333338 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFBft5VoVmW2UUup/ERAhqQAJ9YQtVzHEsOX86Gn6Dg4KgjUsZKeQCffFNa IhTtlGWI1Er7nPOUUdIob/w= =PPbM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig985435881C685F1784333338-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 23:32:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3626816A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 23:32:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (relay02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.131.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C502543D1D for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 23:32:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: from filter02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (filter02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.131.177]) by relay02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15DDF101A2 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 23:32:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.131.35]) [66.133.131.177]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 23509-18-44 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 23:32:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (67-137-46-138.dsl2.elk.ca.frontiernet.net [67.137.46.138]) by relay02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB706107BC for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 23:32:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [165.107.42.151] (unknown [165.107.42.151]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 392AF3BF356 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:32:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <417EDE88.7040909@mykitchentable.net> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:32:24 -0700 From: Drew Tomlinson User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <41755102.6080209@mykitchentable.net> In-Reply-To: <41755102.6080209@mykitchentable.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20040701 (2.0) (Debian) at filter02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net Subject: Apache2 & Apache 1.3 Conf File Differences? (Was: Apache 2 -"Directory index forbidden by rule") X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 23:32:22 -0000 On 10/19/2004 10:38 AM Drew Tomlinson wrote: > I recently upgraded my existing Apache 1.3x server to Apache 2.0.52. > I changed nothing (that I recall) in my httpd.conf file. In 1.3x, I > had defined a virtual server to link to /usr/local/share/doc so I > could easily read my docs from what ever computer I was using at the > time. There was never an index.html file. I just relied on whatever > was built-in to Apache (mod_autoindex?) to provide a directory listing > when I accessed the Document Root. > > But since upgrading, I get a 403 error and this appears in my log file: > > Directory index forbidden by rule: /usr/local/share/doc/ > > I've Googled on the subject and found others with the same problem. > The general recommendation is to make sure that "Options Indexes" is > defined for the directory. I've done this and restarted Apache but it > has not helped. Here's the relevant section of httpd.conf: > > > ServerAdmin webmaster@mykitchentable.net > ServerName freebsd.mykitchentable.net > DocumentRoot /usr/local/share/doc > CustomLog /var/log/httpd_freebsd-access.log combined > ErrorLog /var/log/httpd_freebsd-error.log > > > Options All > Order allow,deny > Allow from all > > > > > Can anyone point out my error? > > Thanks, > > Drew I am still having this problem and can't figure it out. Because I upgraded from 1.3x to 2, I wonder if there's something in my httpd.conf that needs to be added? Does anyone else that has upgraded recall having to add or change something? Thanks , Drew -- Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse Magic Tricks, DVDs, Videos, Books, & More! http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 23:33:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 095A016A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 23:33:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D515243D5C for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 23:33:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 87D1E51221; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:34:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:34:52 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Olivier Gautherot Message-ID: <20041026233452.GA2988@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <41772D08.8000805@gautherot.net> <44r7nqeugm.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <417ECC7F.4090305@gautherot.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="gKMricLos+KVdGMg" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <417ECC7F.4090305@gautherot.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: something: DESTDIR is not a user settable variable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 23:33:56 -0000 --gKMricLos+KVdGMg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Oct 27, 2004 at 12:15:27AM +0200, Olivier Gautherot wrote: > >What's in your make.conf file? [Not DESTDIR, is it?] > > > >=20 > > > Hi Gilbert! >=20 > No, it is not defined there. The funny bit in this story is that it does= =20 > not always happen and the same package may work in one shell and fail=20 > in another one... Weird... =2E..in a shell where you have defined DESTDIR? ;-) Kris --gKMricLos+KVdGMg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBft8cWry0BWjoQKURAuIoAJ9914Zaw+ZMo4ITGMe9TQq4/f6kowCdHHq8 8VAuL8AgB/3/o0dsWh1gRxo= =BQKQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --gKMricLos+KVdGMg-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 00:17:51 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 778F416A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 00:17:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp18.wxs.nl (smtp18.wxs.nl [195.121.6.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 909CD43D1F for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 00:17:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) Received: from kruij557.speed.planet.nl (ipd50a97ba.speed.planet.nl [213.10.151.186]) by smtp18.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTP id <0I6700G8SVHP6I@smtp18.wxs.nl> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 02:17:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from alex.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kruij557.speed.planet.nl (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i9R0HnZD022287; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 02:17:49 +0200 Received: (from akruijff@localhost) by alex.lan (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id i9R0Hmpt022286; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 02:17:48 +0200 Content-return: prohibited Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 02:17:48 +0200 From: Alex de Kruijff In-reply-to: <20041026210129.GA76812@xor.obsecurity.org> To: Kris Kennaway Message-id: <20041027001748.GA858@alex.lan> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i References: <755cb9fc041026135416b35f88@mail.gmail.com> <20041026210129.GA76812@xor.obsecurity.org> X-Authentication-warning: alex.lan: akruijff set sender to freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl using -f cc: Alexandre Vieira cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HT kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 00:17:51 -0000 On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 02:01:30PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 09:54:45PM +0100, Alexandre Vieira wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I have a machine with an Intel p4 3.2ghz FSB800 w/ 1MB L2 cache and > > I wanted to know your opinion about some kernel options that would > > boost the performance of this kind of processor. > > Note that for a lot of workloads HT decreases performance. In what way? Does HT/SMP kernel or option do worse then a normal kernel or default options? -- Alex Please copy the original recipients, otherwise I may not read your reply. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 00:20:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B29716A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 00:20:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp19.wxs.nl (smtp19.wxs.nl [195.121.6.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63E8443D1D for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 00:20:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) Received: from kruij557.speed.planet.nl (ipd50a97ba.speed.planet.nl [213.10.151.186]) by smtp19.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTP id <0I67003OPVMIPN@smtp19.wxs.nl> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 02:20:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from alex.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kruij557.speed.planet.nl (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i9R0KgNx022304; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 02:20:42 +0200 Received: (from akruijff@localhost) by alex.lan (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id i9R0KfSf022303; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 02:20:41 +0200 Content-return: prohibited Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 02:20:41 +0200 From: Alex de Kruijff In-reply-to: <755cb9fc04102614461e0d7c9@mail.gmail.com> To: Alexandre Vieira Message-id: <20041027002041.GB858@alex.lan> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i References: <755cb9fc04102614461e0d7c9@mail.gmail.com> X-Authentication-warning: alex.lan: akruijff set sender to freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl using -f cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Compiling PF and IPFW in the same kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 00:20:43 -0000 On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 10:46:53PM +0100, Alexandre Vieira wrote: > Hello, > > Anyone knows if there is any problem in compiling ipfw and pf in the > same kernel? > Which one will be turned off by default? Or will they both be turned on? Useing two different firewall doesn't cause a problem. I've used ipfw and ipf (different from pf, i think) combined. This never caused any problem. I feel its unlikly if it would cause a problem in this case. -- Alex Please copy the original recipients, otherwise I may not read your reply. WWW: http://www.kruijff.org/alex/FreeBSD/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 00:24:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF63B16A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 00:24:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 974E743D3F for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 00:24:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B7DD351221; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:25:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:25:49 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Alex de Kruijff Message-ID: <20041027002549.GA11355@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <755cb9fc041026135416b35f88@mail.gmail.com> <20041026210129.GA76812@xor.obsecurity.org> <20041027001748.GA858@alex.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041027001748.GA858@alex.lan> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: Alexandre Vieira cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: HT kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 00:24:52 -0000 --YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Oct 27, 2004 at 02:17:48AM +0200, Alex de Kruijff wrote: > On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 02:01:30PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 09:54:45PM +0100, Alexandre Vieira wrote: > > > Hello, > > >=20 > > > I have a machine with an Intel p4 3.2ghz FSB800 w/ 1MB L2 cache and > > > I wanted to know your opinion about some kernel options that would > > > boost the performance of this kind of processor. > >=20 > > Note that for a lot of workloads HT decreases performance. >=20 > In what way? Does HT/SMP kernel or option do worse then a normal kernel > or default options? Depends on the workload. Remember that hyperthreading isn't "a secret extra CPU hiding inside the same chip"; if you try and execute an instruction on the second virtual CPU that cannot be executed on the silicon because the first virtual CPU is using that part of the silicon (or other reasons), the virtual CPU will block. If you're spending most of your time blocked in this way because of the computational workload you're running, performance is going to be worse than the !HT case due to OS overheads. Kris --YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBfusNWry0BWjoQKURAqN7AJ9kjMIFJ/7Sqhf6bwlgr93IxPNwWACfe7O/ xjzbaiHU10E3H009vxnmSLQ= =QgT+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 00:30:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 869F316A54B for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 00:30:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp19.wxs.nl (smtp19.wxs.nl [195.121.6.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C93AE43D2D for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 00:30:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) Received: from kruij557.speed.planet.nl (ipd50a97ba.speed.planet.nl [213.10.151.186]) by smtp19.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTP id <0I67007XCW2Y7A@smtp19.wxs.nl> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 02:30:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from alex.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kruij557.speed.planet.nl (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i9R0UYch022357; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 02:30:34 +0200 Received: (from akruijff@localhost) by alex.lan (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id i9R0UX6n022356; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 02:30:33 +0200 Content-return: prohibited Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 02:30:33 +0200 From: Alex de Kruijff In-reply-to: <755cb9fc041026135416b35f88@mail.gmail.com> To: Alexandre Vieira Message-id: <20041027003033.GC858@alex.lan> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i References: <755cb9fc041026135416b35f88@mail.gmail.com> X-Authentication-warning: alex.lan: akruijff set sender to freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl using -f cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HT kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 00:30:37 -0000 On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 09:54:45PM +0100, Alexandre Vieira wrote: > Hello, > > I have a machine with an Intel p4 3.2ghz FSB800 w/ 1MB L2 cache and > I wanted to know your opinion about some kernel options that would > boost the performance of this kind of processor. I flirted with a syctl locking option with 5.2 (or 4.x). When one of the logical processes used the calculation processer, the second logical processor where locked. I turned this off. The result was that the two logical processes started fighting with eachother to who was first in using the calculation processer. Causing a decrease in effency and a increase in CPU temp. I don't remeber any other options. I've stiked with GENERIC ather this. -- Alex Please copy the original recipients, otherwise I may not read your reply. WWW: http://www.kruijff.org/alex/FreeBSD/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 00:50:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21EE016A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 00:50:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.wizwire.com (smtp.wizwire.com [209.218.100.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBD9343D49 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 00:50:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jahnke@fmjassoc.com) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (209.218.101.53.bvi2.wizwire.com [209.218.101.53]) by smtp.wizwire.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9R0oerU014179 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:50:40 -0700 From: Frank Jahnke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1098838451.613.31.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:54:11 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-WizWire_Communications-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-WizWire_Communications-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: jahnke@fmjassoc.com Subject: Re: some advice needed to considering to move my w2k machine into a freebsd workstation. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 00:50:47 -0000 I'd suggest leaving your Windows machine (and all the software you use) in tact, and play with FreeBSD on the side until you are comfortable enough with it to use it full time. You may like it (most do), but you may not. There are two ways I would proceed. One is to get a live FreeBSD CD (Freesbie) and play around with it. The other would be to make your system dual-boot. That is, you can select either FreeBSD or Windows at boot time. That way you can have the benefits of both environments (though not at the same time). I'd recommend you buy a second hard drive -- 40 MB is fine to get going -- and install FreeBSD on that. Drives are cheap right now; I've seen decent 40 GB drives for $30 or so. Download the ISOs from FreeBSD.org onto the new disk, and have at it! You may find that you need to keep windows around, because as you mention there are sites where you really need IE. Otherwise, I find there are no limitations on the FreeBSD desktop, though I'm not big into multimedia. FWIW, that's how I got started on FreeBSD -- an inexpensive secondary disk on a PIII/dual boot. I liked it well enough that when I put together my dual Athlon workstation I used FreeBSD as the only OS. I like it. Frank From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 01:17:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ADE516A4CF; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 01:17:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14F0343D31; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 01:17:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:17:21 -0500 Message-ID: <417EF71E.1080506@daleco.biz> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:17:18 -0500 From: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041023 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Siavash EDRISI References: <1098820254.417eaa9e77a47@login.bella.lunarpages.com> In-Reply-To: <1098820254.417eaa9e77a47@login.bella.lunarpages.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2004 01:17:22.0209 (UTC) FILETIME=[B5D7E110:01C4BBC2] cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Finding the Right Sound Driver ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 01:17:19 -0000 Siavash EDRISI wrote: >Hi! > >I have been reading the text "Setting Up the Sound Card" at >http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/sound-setup.html > >in order to find and install the right driver for the sound card in my i386. The >hardware is an ESS 1869 PCI. Before I had WinXP installed on this hardware and >it reported that the location of the card is: PCI slot 3 (PCI bus 0, device 14, >function 0) > >I did whatever is described in the section 7.2.1 of the manual: > >1- I checked the entries in "/boot/defaults/loader.conf". The right line was > snd_sbc_load="NO" >I imagine this means that the driver is already somewhere on the harddisk! > >2- Then I inserted the following line into /boot/loader.conf > snd_sbc_load="YES" > >3- I booted the system. > >Right after calling "startx" and entering KDE I got (as usual) the error message >that the sound server could not find the file /dev/dsp. > >As I read in the manual configuring a custom kernel with sound support is just a >second method and can be used alternatively. So I am not sure if I really have >to do something in the kernel or not, since the first efforts did not help! > >Could someone please tell me what I still have to do? I would of course be very >thankful for more precise advices. > >Thanks in advance >Sia > > Hi, Sia! I'm taking the liberty of cc'ing this to a more appropriate forum. For further diagnosis, what is the output of "uname -a" ?? The instructions have changed recently, because the code changed fairly recently, and the age of your installation might help determine the solution to your problem. I'm fairly sure I've used this card before.... Kevin Kinsey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 01:31:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3D8E16A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 01:31:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92.asp.att.net [204.127.203.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D06A43D2D for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 01:31:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from josh@tcbug.org) Received: from [10.0.0.10] (12-218-40-24.client.mchsi.com[12.218.40.24]) by sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92) with ESMTP id <20041027013134m9200k1olse>; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 01:31:34 +0000 From: Josh Paetzel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Hexren Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:30:49 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <20041026162657.B873943D5D@mx1.FreeBSD.org> <1098825225.4101.17.camel@aaron.proficuous.com> <11516587842.20041026232016@hexren.net> In-Reply-To: <11516587842.20041026232016@hexren.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410262030.49276.josh@tcbug.org> cc: "Aaron P. Martinez" Subject: Re: 2 Network Cards & 2 IP's? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 01:31:36 -0000 On Tuesday 26 October 2004 21:20, Hexren wrote: > >> For example: > >> > >> 192.168.1.100 on NIC 1 > >> > >> 192.168.1.101 on NIC 2 > >> > >> Gateway 192.168.1.1 > > ---------------------------------- > > Am I seeing the wrong problem when I say that: > > #ifconfig NIC1 192.168.1.100 > #ifconfig NIC1 192.168.1.101 > #route add default 192.168.1.1 > > should do what you want ? > > Hexren You can't put two NICs w/ the same subnet into a FBSD machine -- Thanks, Josh Paetzel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 01:46:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC90116A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 01:46:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web53605.mail.yahoo.com (web53605.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.37.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 323AE43D1D for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 01:46:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from flexble2547@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20041027014613.21432.qmail@web53605.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.100.162.26] by web53605.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:46:13 PDT Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:46:13 -0700 (PDT) From: scott renna To: "Daan Vreeken [PA4DAN]" In-Reply-To: <200410261820.49470.Danovitsch@Vitsch.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Dlink-g520 Wireless and WEP more X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 01:46:14 -0000 SUCCESS...at least at 40-bit WEP, which is good enough, it's not like getting up higher will make that much of a difference. Thanks for the tips, still puzzled why two cards in the same system can't be on the same subnet. thanks for the help. --- "Daan Vreeken [PA4DAN]" wrote: > On Tuesday 26 October 2004 17:38, scott renna wrote: > > ok, well this system has a 3com, xl0 holding an ip > of > > 192.168.2.150 > > Does this mean that I need to have each interface > > having an IP on a different subnet? > > maybe I could change the mask on the xl0 to > > 255.255.248.0 and it might work? > Nope, that won't help. > > > I wanted to have the wireless card on the same > subnet > > as the rest of the LAN and keep the wired card up > and > > running just for testing before permanently > migrating > > to this wireless card(i'm using encrypted > protocols > > locally so wep weaknesses should not be an issue). > > > > is there a way to have both cards be on the same > > subnet and have the same subnet mask? > Nope. > If you would do that, FreeBSD wouldn't know on what > interface it should send > packets destined for a PC on that subnet. (That's > why ifconfig refuses to set > the ip address). > > If you want to be able to switch between LAN and > WLAN, you'll have to turn off > one of the interfaces... > If you want to run over WLAN, type : > ifconfig xl0 down > ifconfig ath0 192.168.2.150 etc etc etc... > > If you want to switch back to LAN, type : > ifconfig ath0 down > ifconfig xl0 up > > You can assign the same ip address to multiple > interfaces, but you can only > have one of the "up" at a time. > > good luck, > Daan > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 03:05:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7D7D16A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 03:05:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6669043D2F for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 03:05:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gedads@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 65so296512wri for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:05:47 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Si2ZTUcuiyDCO8hPocb2gyupuMMKVqx4KxfTPqMPnk/bChI4T4gwYFydzTEWgaZransc5BoIUImDkY5PIFyEhYccRHOG9ps7236c4dcf6Q+J+kYnoaW5bIBpq5l0M4ugVLw0hiEdcvZzCwB/ZQwp3t6npcpXg2wmfLYAj6UMMwM= Received: by 10.38.152.73 with SMTP id z73mr626073rnd; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:05:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.76.33 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:05:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6ce0fd1b0410262005b832d56@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 22:05:47 -0500 From: "Gerard D." To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Multilink PPP over UDP Tunnel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: gerard@gedads.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 03:05:50 -0000 I'm trying to create a multilink ppp over udp tunnel to combine the bandwidth of 3 dsl lines into one big fat pipe. I currently have a FreeBSD server co located at my ISP's data center and a FreeBSD Server at my house with 3 dsl lines. I would like to be able to create some kind of tunnel or vpn to the co located server and have it evenly distribute the bandwith over the 3 dsl lines. I have been experimenting with using ppp over TCP tunnels however the speeds are very inconsistent. However when I use PPPoUDP the speeds are great for a single line. My problem is is that I cannot seem to bring up more than one udp tunnel. Soon as the second link tries to come up the whole tunnel is closed. Does anyone have a working example of Multilink PPP over UDP tunnel? I have looked at the ppp.conf.span-isp.working in the examples directory many of times however it is extremely confusing. Does anyone know if Multilink PPPoE is possible? I know there are companys in the UK doing ML-PPPoA but I need ML-PPPoE. I have the full support of my isp in configuring their cisco routers to help me with ml-pppoe I just need to tell them how to set it up for me. If anyone could help with either of my issues I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks -Gerard From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 03:40:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4842A16A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 03:40:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE93643D62 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 03:40:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nomadlogic@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 64so269639wri for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:40:43 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=pXEds6+zUs07Y1O8r4ZhogrPF88AsFbNvhglbQbNzoMAv0iK6cbUGcP1clcnH3aZI4aNvm4kgGvxPYERVQ2U8wt+TtZlIAdjF+4/2ORWIA4WPV9EypesvznnW41OMU0tNUS11D0PrxbVuJ84TiDb9kQwBlrfgWUXGiXnBw5R2Qw= Received: by 10.38.163.76 with SMTP id l76mr908161rne; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:40:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.14.69 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:40:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <57d7100004102620404925d732@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:40:43 -0700 From: pete wright To: Josh Paetzel In-Reply-To: <200410262030.49276.josh@tcbug.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20041026162657.B873943D5D@mx1.FreeBSD.org> <1098825225.4101.17.camel@aaron.proficuous.com> <11516587842.20041026232016@hexren.net> <200410262030.49276.josh@tcbug.org> cc: "Aaron P. Martinez" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Hexren Subject: Re: 2 Network Cards & 2 IP's? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: pete wright List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 03:40:44 -0000 On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:30:49 +0000, Josh Paetzel wrote: > On Tuesday 26 October 2004 21:20, Hexren wrote: > > >> For example: > > >> > > >> 192.168.1.100 on NIC 1 > > >> > > >> 192.168.1.101 on NIC 2 > > >> > > >> Gateway 192.168.1.1 > > > > ---------------------------------- > > > > Am I seeing the wrong problem when I say that: > > > > #ifconfig NIC1 192.168.1.100 > > #ifconfig NIC1 192.168.1.101 > > #route add default 192.168.1.1 > > > > should do what you want ? > > > > Hexren > > You can't put two NICs w/ the same subnet into a FBSD machine > sure you can, see previous posts by Aaron Nichols in this thread regarding this. now as far as reasons why you may want to/or not do this may be open to debate. -p -- ~~o0OO0o~~ Pete Wright www.nycbug.org NYC's *BSD User Group From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 03:47:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E49016A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 03:47:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from usw2.natel.net (2b.bz [209.152.117.190]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5031743D55 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 03:47:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from WD@US-Webmasters.com) Received: (qmail 59057 invoked from network); 27 Oct 2004 03:47:31 -0000 Received: from batv-01-017.dialup.netins.net (HELO xyz.US-Webmasters.com) (216.248.109.18) by us-webmasters.com with SMTP; 27 Oct 2004 03:47:31 -0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20041026223824.04617c70@209.152.117.178> X-Sender: wd@209.152.117.178 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 22:46:18 -0600 To: Jian Guang Xu From: "W. D." In-Reply-To: <274e8bdc041026133120a464ff@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: some advice needed to considering to move my w2k machine into a freebsd workstation. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 03:47:34 -0000 At 14:31 10/26/2004, Jian Guang Xu wrote: >My current system follows: >AMD Athlon 1600+, 1 Gigabytes RAM, 40 Giga harddrive, GeForce 2 with >32 Mb, AC97 Onboard Audio Adaptor, D-Link DFE-538TX. > >The system got follow applications: >W2K Workstation Professional runs very smooth right now. >Firefox 1.0 for most of the web surfing. IE occasionally but nessary >for some of the website I need to go to due to personally reason. >Thunderbird for me email and newsgroup reading. >VMWare to testing FreeBSD. >ACT! 2005 as a CRM software(personal organizor as well) but I'm trying >to move to a internet application via www.freecrm.com >OpenOffice currently runs in my system with MS Office removed. >Acrobat 5.0 for form editing(Occasionally) >MusicMatch for online radio (all the time) >Realplayer for DVD/Movie(Occasionally) >I have online conference calls using MS Media Player Plugin which is >very important for me. >Zonealarm as my firewall, Norton Antirus. >I'm using a home network connected to Rogers High Speed via DHCP >protocol, another machine is a XP laptop. > >My job is in Marketing field so I do need the system to be robust and >more productivity. At the same time, I have the dream to play OS >around and hack into the system at my spare time. To be honest, I'm >pretty happy with my current system with all the feature I specified. > >Is there anybody could point out a way to play FreeBSD around and at >the same time, I could perform my job easily? As I said, I need the >Media Player plug in a lot, and any suggestion for a CRM software >under BSD would be much appreciated. > >I gotta be very careful to change a system. > >I thank you for reading my nonsense post and hoping that if somebody >could give me some advice. > >JX Hi JX, It sounds like you have a nice Windows system. My advice would be to leave it exactly as it is. For probably around $100, you can buy a computer that's a few years old for a FreeBSD 'experimental' system. I don't recommend dual booting because there is a positive probability that you will hose your current system. If you use a KVM switch, you can avoid duplicating the Keyboard, Video monitor, and Mouse. There is a lot of documentation out there about FreeBSD, but I've compiled my notes into step-by-step procedures that can get you up and running fairly quickly: http://www.US-Webmasters.com/FreeBSD/Install/ Good luck. Welcome to FreeBSD! Start Here to Find It Fast!=99 ->= http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ $8.77 Domain Names -> http://domains.us-webmasters.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 04:58:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE0E516A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 04:58:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A57F43D46 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 04:58:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 65so306085wri for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:58:31 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=djNEb3MP9++CahlK32qst3qhhazGjBF3KBMbxaAUhm6NTMqExj7I4Am/HYPkxILNphT3MJIom7BrPx+pELP3zrOT+aOJRjJb9qo1PDD38eYkyteH6hlERWM6+tgB/ZmL1SwZCoobELe9SqAhFd4rvBozWkZX8YmXoJw5okQXtHM= Received: by 10.38.81.16 with SMTP id e16mr669892rnb; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:58:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.72.65 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:58:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 06:58:31 +0200 From: Gert Cuykens To: "tm4525@aol.com" In-Reply-To: <1e0.2d870451.2eaff668@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <1e0.2d870451.2eaff668@aol.com> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GPL vs BSD Licence X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 04:58:32 -0000 On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:50:16 EDT, tm4525@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 10/26/04 2:26:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > flowers@users.sourceforge.net writes: > > Foundation, who is the copyright holder of the GPL license itself. > > In fact, the FSF advises authors to transfer copyright rights of their > > work to the FSF to avoid these problems. > > >Ah, so your point is that people should transfer their copyrights to an > >organization dedicated to keeping the code free. Well, maybe they > should,>but that has nothing to do with which license is used. > > I think they both have it wrong. If you want to donate your code to > the general community, make it available with no restrictions. The > entire concept of "here, use my crappy code but don't make any > money off of it" is totally lame. If someone takes it and doesn't > give away the changes it doesn't diminish the original contribution. > Its still there. > > Finishing a product is what has value. Anyone can write code that does > this or that. Making it into something that someone is willing to pay > for is what has value. And the more products that are available, the > better off the community is. Even if they're not free. You still have > the choice of paying for it or not. And you still have the original > contribution to change as you please. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > If you buy a product what would you want ? A pretty box or pretty software ? Finishing the product is just marketing and trying to make a very pretty box to put the software in. When something is open source and you want to sell it you are forced to make it the best peace of code out there. Its what i call healthy competition. For me open source translates into "If you think you can do better be my guest" Finishing a product and making it closed source is just plain wrong. Its like stealing from the church basket. Every body shares something and you want to take it and keep it for your self. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 05:35:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11D8116A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 05:35:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fed1rmmtao01.cox.net (fed1rmmtao01.cox.net [68.230.241.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0F1243D41 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 05:35:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mnavarre@cox.net) Received: from reichlieu.lan ([68.6.195.68]) by fed1rmmtao01.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.03.04 201-2131-111-106-20040729) with ESMTP id <20041027053505.SFCE4024.fed1rmmtao01.cox.net@reichlieu.lan>; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 01:35:05 -0400 Received: from reichlieu.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by reichlieu.lan (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i9R5Z7B6016458; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 22:35:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mnavarre@cox.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by reichlieu.lan (8.13.1/8.12.11/Submit) id i9R5Z120016457; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 22:35:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mnavarre@cox.net) X-Authentication-Warning: reichlieu.lan: mnavarre set sender to mnavarre@cox.net using -f From: Matt Navarre To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 22:35:00 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <1098820254.417eaa9e77a47@login.bella.lunarpages.com> <1172.209.152.53.188.1098824114.squirrel@209.152.53.188> In-Reply-To: <1172.209.152.53.188.1098824114.squirrel@209.152.53.188> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410262235.00637.mnavarre@cox.net> X-SA-Scanned: 0 () X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.41 cc: Darren Pilgrim cc: Siavash EDRISI Subject: Re: Finding the Right Sound Driver ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 05:35:09 -0000 On Tuesday 26 October 2004 01:55, Darren Pilgrim wrote: >The first step is to provide copies of the outputs of the commands `uname >-a`, `dmesg` and `kldstat`. Also the output of cat /dev/sndstat would help. > Did you first try loading snd.ko (4.x) or snd_driver.ko (5.x) and see > which driver finds your hardware? If you load the snd* kernel module you can cat /dev/sndstat and it should tell you which driver attached to you card. -- "We all enter this world in the same way: naked, screaming, and soaked in blood. But if you live your life right, that kind of thing doesn't have to stop there." -- Dana Gould From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 05:47:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8A0F16A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 05:47:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.bitfreak.org (mail.bitfreak.org [65.75.198.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4E9A43D31 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 05:47:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmp@bitfreak.org) Received: from speck.loki.lan (c-24-21-241-225.client.comcast.net [24.21.241.225]) by mail.bitfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72D9919F2C; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 22:48:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spud (d2.loki.lan [172.21.42.22]) by speck.loki.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id B90213250; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 22:46:59 -0700 (PDT) From: "Darren Pilgrim" To: "'Matt Navarre'" , Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 22:46:50 -0700 Message-ID: <000001c4bbe8$5e364c00$162a15ac@spud> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <200410262235.00637.mnavarre@cox.net> cc: 'Siavash EDRISI' Subject: RE: Finding the Right Sound Driver ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 05:47:04 -0000 > From: Matt Navarre [mailto:mnavarre@cox.net] > On Tuesday 26 October 2004 01:55, Darren Pilgrim wrote: >> The first step is to provide copies of the outputs of the >> commands `uname -a`, `dmesg` and `kldstat`. > > Also the output of cat /dev/sndstat would help. > >> Did you first try loading snd.ko (4.x) or snd_driver.ko >> (5.x) and see which driver finds your hardware? > > If you load the snd* kernel module you can cat /dev/sndstat > and it should tell you which driver attached to you card. Or just read the attach messages. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 05:54:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55C3316A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 05:54:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from helium.webpack.hosteurope.de (helium.webpack.hosteurope.de [217.115.142.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C79543D66 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 05:54:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from me@hexren.net) Received: from pd95526ee.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.85.38.238] helo=hexren) by helium.webpack.hosteurope.de with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CMgld-0007TA-0M for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 07:54:41 +0200 Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 07:54:40 +0200 From: Hexren X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62i) Business X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <432307798.20041027075440@hexren.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200410262030.49276.josh@tcbug.org> References: <20041026162657.B873943D5D@mx1.FreeBSD.org> <1098825225.4101.17.camel@aaron.proficuous.com> <11516587842.20041026232016@hexren.net> <200410262030.49276.josh@tcbug.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-HE-MXrcvd: no Subject: Re[2]: 2 Network Cards & 2 IP's? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Hexren List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 05:54:42 -0000 JP> On Tuesday 26 October 2004 21:20, Hexren wrote: >> >> For example: >> >> >> >> 192.168.1.100 on NIC 1 >> >> >> >> 192.168.1.101 on NIC 2 >> >> >> >> Gateway 192.168.1.1 >> >> ---------------------------------- >> >> Am I seeing the wrong problem when I say that: >> >> #ifconfig NIC1 192.168.1.100 >> #ifconfig NIC1 192.168.1.101 >> #route add default 192.168.1.1 >> >> should do what you want ? >> >> Hexren JP> You can't put two NICs w/ the same subnet into a FBSD machine --------------------------------------------- I can't challenge that I never tried but it should surprise me if that was true. What error message does the system give if you try to do that ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 06:59:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D901E16A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 06:59:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web51602.mail.yahoo.com (web51602.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6539643D46 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 06:59:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jay2xra@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20041027065947.22659.qmail@web51602.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [202.90.128.28] by web51602.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 23:59:47 PDT Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 23:59:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Jayson Alvarez To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Can no longer boot 4.10 after installing 5.3RC1 on different partition. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 06:59:49 -0000 Good day, A have a serious problem going on with my hard drive. My hard disk, 80 GB seagate has 4 partitions. 1 freebsd 4.10 2 openbsd 3.5 3 linux 4 Win2k I've downloaded the miniinst iso of FreeBSD 5.3 and decided to install it in linux partition. During the installation, I've deleted the linux partition and create a new partition for freebsd 5.3. Also, I've choosen not to install the 5.3 boot manager hoping that the present 4.10 boot manager will do the work for me. I've also set the 5.3 partition as Active so that my pc will boot right away to that partition. And then I booted into 5.3 for quite some time, familiarizing myself with the environment. But then, when I felt I'm badly missing my 4.10, I've booted my pc into 4.10 installation cd so that I can bring back the 4.10 boot manager. But on my surprise, when I pressed F1 for freebsd 4.10, it says """invalid partition""". whooaa!! Ok, no problem.. I'll use the 5.3 boot manager. So I booted my pc to the 5.3 cd, and try pressing the "w" while on fdisk and then selecting to install the FreeBSD boot manager when asked to. Finally, I've booted into my hardisk with the 5.3 boot manager, and then it still says... "invalid partition!!!" I've tried the other, partitions(openbsd,win2k,5.3) and they booted ok. Only the 4.10 does not. I've also noticed that during the installation of 5.3, the sysinstall is telling me that my hard disk geometry something... is incorrect that I should consult its manual to correct the problem which I just ignored. Could this be...? P.S. Help me please sir!!!My my 1,765 MB porn collection is in danger!!! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 07:42:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BEB916A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 07:42:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ptb-relay02.plus.net (ptb-relay02.plus.net [212.159.14.213]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A78143D49 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 07:42:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gbentley@uk2.net) Received: from [81.174.174.115] (helo=custompc) by ptb-relay02.plus.net with smtp (Exim) id 1CMiS0-000MUl-W0 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 07:42:33 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20041027084549.007d1100@mail.uk2.net> X-Preferences: Plain Text/No HTML X-Mailer: Interstat v2.0.9 Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 08:45:49 +0100 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Graham Bentley In-Reply-To: <20041026205536.BF9B016A4DF@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Flash Drives Sanity Check X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 07:42:35 -0000 Hi List ! I was wondering if anyone had any experience of running FreeBSD out of Compact Flash ? The HDD to Flash adapters are around 15GBP here and 1GB of Flash about 70GBP I know there are some projects around that use Compact Flash (like Openbrick) but I was thinking more in terms of running a stripped down desktop workstation. Does CF stand lots of read / write operations ? I read somewhere that it has quite low life expectancy ? My main idea is to use the Mini-ITX platform to build a tiny workstation that has a stripped down FreeBSD with something like Fluxbox and to get the whole thing to run from the CF using a USB Stick for storing work. Have I lost the plot here OR is this idea viable ? Any comments welcome :) http://www.flash-card-store.co.uk/acatalog/Boot_from_Flash2.html Custom PC North West Open Source Solutions http://www.cpcnw.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 07:47:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23FDC16A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 07:47:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDD7543D46 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 07:47:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kjelderg@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so281600wri for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 00:47:07 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=DD3DdiFRBJEbjaP+a/j7tXFSH2oBBEEqCxH274xGyDwSLuowamw/ae64Ui/jouEX+KrH8iHyC2f6wf7YrWtUdw0RhuBMJYA8Fp8hSMxfHXdIo4eAi4sM+LZA6GiMFKL4ezggnZ2xUzjRZYRZyKXRYqS69recN9AI5T3gGq/ALTI= Received: by 10.38.79.68 with SMTP id c68mr1017155rnb; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 00:47:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.15.69 with HTTP; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 00:47:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 02:47:06 -0500 From: Eric Kjeldergaard To: Graham Bentley In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20041027084549.007d1100@mail.uk2.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20041026205536.BF9B016A4DF@hub.freebsd.org> <3.0.6.32.20041027084549.007d1100@mail.uk2.net> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flash Drives Sanity Check X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eric Kjeldergaard List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 07:47:08 -0000 > Does CF stand lots of read / write operations ? > > I read somewhere that it has quite low life > expectancy ? I can't help you out on much of the quest, but this part is generally advertised when full specs are given for the card. Often I see cards looking in the neighbourhood of 100,000 lifetime read/writes expected. While this isn't much for a long-term solution, I'd expect you're talking about using this solution for a non-permanent install. -- If I write a signature, my emails will appear more personalised. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 08:24:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9876D16A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 08:24:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E098C43D5A for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 08:24:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) i9R8O4q83161; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 01:24:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Micheal Patterson" , , Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 01:24:04 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <017b01c4bb78$28263a00$4df24243@tsgincorporated.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 08:24:29 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Micheal Patterson [mailto:micheal@tsgincorporated.com] > Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 9:23 AM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt; TM4525@aol.com; stefan@swebase.com > Cc: questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows > > > > > > I've seen the stuff with my own eyes. It ain't pretty. > > > > If you think that administering a Windows server is so simple then > > answer the following test: > > > > How do you lock down an Exchange 5.5 server to prevent a spammer from > > using it as a relay. > > > > I know how to do it. No, it does not involve grubbing around in the > > registry. No it is not documented, either. I know for a fact that > > it isn't because I was in the conference call > > where we had to do it, and the Microsoft support tech himself told us > > it wasn't documented. > > > > Are you referring to reconfiguring the IMC with: > > "Reroute incoming SMTP mail", then in Routing Restrictions, selecting > "Hosts and Clients with these IP addresses" and leaving the data fields > blank? > Yes, this is a perfect example of what I'm talking about - as this is non-intuitive, and not documented in the help files. Nor on the Microsoft knowledge base, although now it may be. > If that's the method that you're talking about, it's only "non-documented" > within MS's help files. It's plastered all over the web. Do a search on > google for "MS exchange 5.5 open relay" and just look at the info that you > get. If that's the issue that you're discussing, someone in your admin > section just cost the company the price for the trouble ticket > for no reason > because they didn't bother to look for it. > When this call took place was a number of years ago, the Exchange servers that we are installing today are not 5.5. This was right after the open relaying with 5.5 began to become a serious problem - because the UNIX servers had been rapidly switching off promiscious relaying and the spammers were switching over to Exchange servers for relaying. All those websites that your talking about started popping up AFTER people like us started bitching at MS about this - and if I recall right, you have to have one of the service packs loaded on Exchange for this to even be in the IMC. I don't remember if this went in as a result of problems with spammers relaying through 5.5 or 5.0 though, it has been some time since we dealt with one of these older servers. 5.5 doesen't run correctly on Windows 2003 server after all. > > People in the type of network that I'm in, only use Windows for > applications > that require it's use. Telerad, Centricity, and various other medical > software that requires MSSQL. All other applications here on my > network are > using FreeBSD from 4.9 to 5.3.7 or AIX. > > > Oh, yes.. I've had my share of issues with Windows. Just as I've had with > every other OS that I've used. I also know how to use login > restrictions to > force users out of the network so that the backups can occur to reduce the > amount of open file skips as well. > That is a fine idea except that SQL manager keeps the database file open so all your doing is -reducing- as you say, the number of open files. It doesen't work for exchange either. And yes, there are of course ways around these problems, you can write a script to shut down exchange, run your backup, then bring it back up, if you want to use the free backup included with Windows and not have to pay thousands for veritos. But I never said it's not possible to DO these kinds of things under Windows. What I said is that administering Windows is as complex as administering UNIX. And by the time you get done writing your scripts and such for Windows to make it usable, well there you go. Complexity. > > > The human race as a whole, is always looking for something to > make doing > > > something easier for them. That's what drives our desire to > contstantly > > > design new technology. > > > > > > > Hate to wake you with the clue phone but WE don't design new technology. > > The people who design new technology are the companies that produce > > it. And they have agendas OTHER than just making your life easier. > > Such as making money. Why do you think that there's a new version of > > Microsoft Word every couple years? Can you tell me with a straight > > face that each new version of Word has made it easier to type a > > typical business letter? > > Clue phone? How about letting me smack you in the forhead with a clue bat. > You speak about companies having other agendas. Yes, that's true. > Pray tell, > do answer the inevitable quesiton. How is it that companies, corporations > and other big business are able to make that profit? > If they are in a competitive market they generally provide what the customers want to buy. Often that includes propagandizing the customers into wanting the item in the first place - companies like Pepsi and Coke are good at that - and sometimes it actually includes providing things that the customers really do need and want. But the rules change in a monopolistic market, they change very greatly. > Do they force their wares onto the unsuspecting public and force us to > purchase them? > Monopolies do, as a matter of fact. Before the breakup of AT&T in the 80's, the Bell Telephone company was the phone monopoly. Sure, you can argue that nobody NEEDED a phone and nobody was FORCED to buy a phone - this is technically true, but completely unrealistic. Even in the 70's society was so integrated with the telephone that if you were living in the typical home, a phone was a requirement. You were, in fact, forced to have it. Sure, some people didn't have phones. People who might have lived 100 miles out in the boondocks or some such. A few diehards didn't have them. But, allowances were made in society for those people, simply because the number of them were not great. Sure, the local police precinct had a walk in counter that your phone-less person could come down and fill out a paper criminal report. But if everyone in society tried to do that, instead of calling them in, they couldn't have managed it. You have a very naieve understanding of how modern monopolies operate. A monopoly does not HAVE to force EVERYONE in the general public to buy their products. All they have to do is get ahold of the market and by default, everyone ends up being forced to buy their product. If for example, I cornered the milk market, and every gallon bottle of milk sold in the country I controlled, sure, someone could refuse to participate in my monopoly and never buy milk again, or milk products. But the first time they went to a friends house and ate dinner there that had a dish that was prepared with my milk, now they are participating in my monopoly. > > Do they force upon you the car that you drive, the furniture in your home, > the home you live in, is that forced upon you by anyone? Wait for it, wait > for it. Clue bat time. > Perhaps not the furniture, but your forgetting a little something about the car that I and you drive. You think that everyone has a choice to buy and use a car, don't you. I'm sure you do. But did you ever stop to think for a moment that everyone who drives a car buys gas from the same people, and those people all buy oil from a couple of places in the world? Some of the examples your spouting are not monopolies, and so there is choice available. But it doesen't take much to find monopolies involved with them, or near monopolies. Particularly in auto manufacturing. Parts like the catalytic converter - there's only about 3-4 manufacturers in the world that make them. (engelhard, etc.) Airbags - TRW is 1 of about 2, and TRW makes most of them. SRS (airbag computers) look up Autoliv, they are the monopoly for that. You sound like some kind of primitive conservative that thinks that the world's economy is filled with companies that are just waiting with eager little tails wagging to compete with each other. It ain't like that at all. There's lots of monopolies out there in many different segments. Many are good monopolies, in fact, the majority of them are not what would be called malevolent. As many exist solely at the sufferance of many governments out there, most of them are well aware that they need to be on their good behavior. And many of them are tolerant and even encouraging of young upstart competitors, as much innovation comes from those competitors, and if the competitors ever do hit on a good idea, it is much cheaper to buy them out then to spend the money on R&D themselves. But there are a few evil monopolies that do great damage. OPEC is one. Microsoft is another. > > Let's talk about the net for example. > > The Internet wasn't designed by corporations or big business. It has it's > roots in a very small amount of people. People who thought, hey, > wouldn't it > be cool if we could do this? And the rest is history. Big business and > corporations take the credit for many things that has come to pass since > recorded time within the industrial revolution. However, when you > look right > at it, WE, as in the human race, have thinkers, and people who are able to > step beyond the bounds of their constraints and "imagine" what something > would be like. It's called ideas. You have them, I have them, we all have > them. This is the basis for our technology, not companies or corporations. > The companies / corporations and big business take the credit for their > conception and implementation, but it all boils down to a single thought > process of one person. > The Internet wouldn't have ever existed if that core group of thinkers were completely underwritten by millions of dollars of academic research money provided by those corporations and big businesses. Don't you realize that the 56k dedicated circuits that made up NSFnet in the beginning cost something like $10,000/mth? You really need to go read up on the history of the Internet!! The people that started the Internet were able to leverage a huge amount of grant money and such (provided by the US taxpayers, mostly) and spent enormous sums for very small amounts of bandwidth to get it going. The internet most definitely did NOT come out of a garage. Your confusing the history of the Internet with the history of the personal computer. > easier. I know > you think I'm wrong. I'd like you to consider a few things though please. > If you prefer meat in your meals, would you raise cattle, swine, chickens? > If you like vegetables, fruits, and such would you grow a garden > for all of > your needs? Do you like bread? Do you bake it yourself? Due to > convienience > and limitations on where you live, chances are you don't do > either of those. I don't do those things because it is cheaper for me to just buy them from the store. This has nothing really to do with convenience, in fact, I would be quite willing to be more inconvenienced to grow vegetables in the back yard, etc. simply because they taste far better. But, the cost in water, renting/maintaining machinery, and so on is higher than just buying them. Sure, I could use a hand hoe, but there is not enough time in the day to cultivate the acerage needed to be self-sufficient purely by hand. Even farmers 150 years ago that did this used horses, and back then property ownership was quite different - if you wanted property you just rode out and killed some Indians and there you go - instant land. > > Windows WAS simpler than UNIX. No longer. You need to get out into > > the field again, you have been sitting behind a desk managing things > > for too long. I'd love to see you setup a Active Directory network of > > any size that contains mixed Windows versions. You would lose a lot of > > these misguided preconceptions. > > Ted I do this every day. I have 4 hospitals, 3 cancer treatment facilities > and currently 29 other remote locations that are running Windows > AD, behind > FreeBSD firewalls, whose internal systems, are anything from > Windows 98, to > Windows XP Pro that all converge to the central center via ipsec tunnels. And how long did it all of this take to get setup? And since Windows is so simple according to you, then why don't you quit and let your bosses hire some $25K a year greenhorn to take care of all this? I'm sure you would think that it would just go humming along with no problems. Har har! You take any inexperienced Windows 'administrator' (and I use the term loosely) block diagram out your network, give him a bank check and tell him to go duplicate it. You wouldn't see more than 2% of them be able to do it. So much for Windows being 'easy' It's only easy if you know what your doing. But, then again, so is UNIX. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 08:33:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF40816A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 08:33:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 791E743D54 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 08:33:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) i9R8XKq83201; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 01:33:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: , Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 01:33:20 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <1a5.29af5401.2eafe426@aol.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 08:33:24 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of TM4525@aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 10:32 AM > To: micheal@tsgincorporated.com > Cc: questions@freebsd.org > I said it takes a higher > talent level to generally administer a un*x box than a windows > box. I don't > think that just because you can think of something thats not easy to do > in windows makes any point at all. The fact that a un*x guy had > to be called in to solve the problem says alot about the type of > talent that > is required to do most things that windows techs do. Do you know how many new customers the ISP I work at has signed up over the years who have had preexisting Exchange servers that were open relays? ALL of them who had exchange servers were open! Of course, we liked this, because several times the new customers came to us bitching about our competitors who had "the slowest Internet connection in the world" Needless to say, scanning for an open relays on IP addresses we assign to a new customer is SOP for us - we nip this in the bud right away. And to top it off, once fixed, most of them still don't even make the connection that their former ISP's internet connection wasn't the problem, it was the hundred thousand spams a day they were sending out that was making the connection slow. So much for "most windows techs" You may not, but I would consider that PROPERLY setting up a mailserver is something that 'most windows techs' should be required to do who choose to go buy exchange or whatever mailserver, and set it up. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 08:37:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D74D16A4CF for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 08:37:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from comsys.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (comsys.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua [194.125.244.127]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C657743D53 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 08:37:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from simon@comsys.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua) Received: from pm514-9.comsys.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (pm514-9.comsys.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua [10.18.54.109]) (authenticated bits=0)i9RBidFw076655 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:44:54 GMT Received: by pm514-9.comsys.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6BA201AA; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:36:49 +0300 (EEST) From: Andrey Simonenko To: Alexandre Vieira In-Reply-To: <1098840186.00159164.1098827401@10.7.7.3> X-Newsgroups: lucky.freebsd.questions Message-Id: <20041027083649.6BA201AA@pm514-9.comsys.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:36:49 +0300 (EEST) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Compiling PF and IPFW in the same kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 08:37:21 -0000 On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 22:46:53 +0100 in lucky.freebsd.questions, Alexandre Vieira wrote: > Anyone knows if there is any problem in compiling ipfw and pf in the > same kernel? > Which one will be turned of by default? Or will they both be turned on? > Will the default rule for PF be allow all ? > They both will work. Just test it: let ipfw rules and pf rules to log information about packets they catch and check which of them get a packet first. According to netinet/ip_input.c:ip_input function ip_output.c:ip_output function in 5.2.1 first are called PFIL_HOOKed firewalls, then ipfw is called, in CURRENT it seems that all firewalls will use PFIL_HOOK. In 5.x, see net/pfil.c:pfil_list_add function, last several lines which add firewall hook to the incoming or the outgoing list will explain which of PFIL_HOOKed firewalls will be called first for incoming and outgoing directions. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 08:38:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7DE616A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 08:38:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from top.daemonsecurity.com (FW-182-254.go.retevision.es [62.174.254.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4F4F43D49 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 08:38:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [192.168.0.32] (charm.daemonsecurity.com [192.168.0.32]) by top.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5448A1470 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:38:05 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <417F5E6B.2080100@locolomo.org> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:38:03 +0200 From: Erik Norgaard Organization: Loco Lomography User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040918 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, da, it, es MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.84.2.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: VPN questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 08:38:09 -0000 Hi, I am looking at how to implement VPN but I'm getting confused as to how IPSec, IKE, OpenSSL, FreeSWAN, racoon etc. all fit into the picture. I am looking at two scenarios, and I have two questions. 1) Standard IPSec tunnel: +----+ IPSec/VPN +----+ LAN---| FW |-----------| FW |---LAN +----+ +----+ In this scenario: Can CARP/pf handle VPN/IPSec connections incase the master unit fails? (I am assuming that both ends have fixed public routable ip's). 2) VPN for mobile users +----+ VPN +-----+ LAN---| FW |-----------| FW? |---[mobile unit] +----+ +-----+ For mobile users I can't be sure where they are, their ip, or if they are behind NAT/firewall, nor can I trust the network until the mobile unit. IPSec breaks behind NAT, are there other altertives than ssh-tunnels I should take a look at? (which? :-) Thanks, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 08:42:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A05DA16A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 08:42:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEFC943D53 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 08:42:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1])i9R8gOZg073258 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 27 Oct 2004 09:42:24 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)i9R8gOKa073257; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 09:42:24 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 09:42:24 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: "Andrew P." Message-ID: <20041027084224.GB72488@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , "Andrew P." , questions@freebsd.org References: <417EA97A.9000206@mail.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="UHN/qo2QbUvPLonB" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <417EA97A.9000206@mail.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.5.6 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Wed, 27 Oct 2004 09:42:24 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040904, clamav-milter version 0.75l on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Network speed mysteries X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 08:42:29 -0000 --UHN/qo2QbUvPLonB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 11:46:02PM +0400, Andrew P. wrote: > Just an hour ago I decided to rebuild the file-server kernel - and it=20 > takes time to build it there, as it's an old Celeron box with little=20 > RAM. By coincidence, some files were being uploaded just when I entered= =20 > "make buildkernel ...". I looked at FileZilla windows, expecting to see= =20 > the speed drop - but WOW! - the speed was at 7Mbytes/s!!! It then=20 > hovered around 6.5-9Mbytes/s while the kernel was being built! I waited= =20 > for some minutes until the kernel was finally built - and the upload=20 > speed dropped back to 2.5-3.5Mb/s. I couldn't believe it - and I still=20 > can't - so I waited and built a kernel once more - with all the same=20 > effects on speed! It's worth to mention, that when I was installing the= =20 > built kernel, the speed didn't change from usual 3Mb/s. >=20 > Please let me know what the heck is going on - or just what you think=20 > about it. So, when the system is under load, the network throughput goes up? That must be a timing issue to do with dealing with ACKs -- perhaps the FreeBSD box just responds too fast for the other end, and loading down the system delays things just long enough to get both ends into sync. What would be useful would be to use tcpdump(1) or ethereal(1) to capture a sample of the network traffic in either situation and bring this up on the freebsd-net@... list. Note that running tcpdump itself might affect the traffic in a similar way -- there's a thread on freebsd-net which you might find interesting, starting here: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-net/2004-October/005368.html I you do post to freebsd-net, including the output of 'ifconfig -a' would be a good move. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --UHN/qo2QbUvPLonB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBf19wiD657aJF7eIRAlTIAJ9ZR4BHK0J22+s+52dQxgWPKgbEUQCgjmsF gUsUnKPhWhdNgc5Gher5YJc= =oFpg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --UHN/qo2QbUvPLonB-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 08:49:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17FCC16A4CF for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 08:49:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85BE043D53 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 08:49:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) i9R8nTq83273; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 01:49:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 01:49:29 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: GPL vs BSD Licence X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 08:49:32 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of TM4525@aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 10:45 AM > To: tedm@toybox.placo.com > Cc: questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: GPL vs BSD Licence > > > In a message dated 10/26/04 2:32:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > tedm@toybox.placo.com writes: > Actually a more interesting example is some of the Linksys routers > do indeed use an embedded Linux along with Zebra as the routing engine. > > Ted > Or Allot communications, who openly advertise the use of linux, but do > not make source available to an obviously modified kernel.. I > believe they > claim that the GPL is optional. Heh - didn't know about that one. Why doesen't someone ask Linus when he's going to sue over copyright infringement, next time he spouts about the GPL. This is yet another example of the GPL license flaw. While any of the copyright holders of the Linux kernel could sue Allot, if they don't, it pretty much builds evidence that is going to help those that would argue that the GPL is uninforceable. There's been a couple of other GPL cases like this - of infringement that is being ignored. One of these days I'm going to have to gather up all these and write an article on it. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 09:00:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C79616A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 09:00:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca (s142-179-111-232.bc.hsia.telus.net [142.179.111.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E263043D2F for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 09:00:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sandy@krvarr.bc.ca) Received: from szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i9R904W2003105; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 02:00:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sandy@szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca) Received: (from sandy@localhost) by szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca (8.13.1/8.12.11/Submit) id i9R903Cn003102; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 02:00:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sandy) From: Sandy Rutherford MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16767.25491.654445.94164@szamoca.krvarr.bc.ca> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 02:00:03 -0700 To: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20041026161139.I506@bsd.maa-net.net> References: <20041026161139.I506@bsd.maa-net.net> X-Mailer: VM 7.07 under Emacs 21.3.1 cc: "Michael A. Alestock" Subject: Re: FreeBSD and UPS's X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 09:00:07 -0000 Michael, On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 you wrote: > I was just curious if FreeBSD supports any of the UPS's that have the > automated powerdown feature in the event of powerloss (APM)? I'm using apcupsd with an APC Back-UPS Pro 650 under FreeBSD 4.10. It works great, including automatic powerdown. There are some configuration issues with FreeBSD, which I quote: In the FreeBSD OS, there is no known way for a user program to get control when all the disks are synced. This is needed for apcupsd to be able to issue the killpower command to the UPS so that the UPS shuts off the power. To accomplish the same thing on FreeBSD systems, make sure you have a SmartUPS and that your UPS shutdown grace period is set sufficiently long so that you system will power down (usually 2 minutes), then use the kill-on-powerfail option on the apcupsd command line. You use the command `apctest' to set the UPS shutdown grace period in the UPS's EEPROM. It was straightforward. For smart UPS's with USB connections, I recall seeing some problems reports on the apcupsd email list regarding FreeBSD. However, my UPS uses a serial connection, so I didn't pay much attention. Sandy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 09:26:05 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0584516A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 09:26:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mr.tuwien.ac.at (mr1-n.kom.tuwien.ac.at [128.131.2.109]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E001043D1D for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 09:26:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from e0025265@student.tuwien.ac.at) Received: from webmail.zserv.tuwien.ac.at (lps.ben.tuwien.ac.at [193.170.74.11]) by mr.tuwien.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.8) with SMTP id i9R9PxVP026093 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:26:00 +0200 (MEST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: V-webmail 1.5.1 ( http://www.v-webmail.co.uk/ ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:26:00 +0200 From: "Florian Hengstberger" To: "FreeBSD mailinglist" X-Vwebmail-Auth: e0025265@stud3.tuwien.ac.at X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Subject: Firewall and nmap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 09:26:05 -0000 Hi! I'm compiled a Kernel using the GENERIC config-file that comes with the default 5.2.1 installation adding support for ipfw. I tried to scan my computer with a linux machine running nmap, but nmap tells me that the host seems to be down altough I was able to ping the freebsd-host. So I flushed all rools for the firewall with ipfw flush (the still existing default rule enables all trafic because I compiled this in my kernel, ipfw -c list told me that this is true.) Anyway, nothing changes, all ports seem to be closed running nmap, pings are successfull again! 1) What's wrong with my configuration? 2) I've tried to add all kernel options to this mail using the online handbook from www.freeebsd.org. I realized that the firewall section covers now the OpenBSD filter pf. What=B4s the state of the art? How do I enable pf under 5.2.1 - package or port? 3) Is there something similar like nmap or is there a BSD-network scanner, which usage is recommended? Thanks in advance, Florian ------------------------------------------------------ Florian Hengstberger e0025265@student.tuwien.ac.at http://stud3.tuwien.ac.at/~e0025265 ------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 09:30:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3D2616A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 09:30:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6565E43D45 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 09:30:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) i9R9Udq83789; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 02:30:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Danny MacMillan" Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 02:30:39 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20041026182418.GA867@procyon.nekulturny.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal cc: Graham Bentley cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: GPL vs BSD Licence X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 09:30:54 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Danny MacMillan [mailto:flowers@users.sourceforge.net] > Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 11:24 AM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > Cc: Graham Bentley; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: GPL vs BSD Licence > > > I will preface my reply with the following disclaimer: I am no > lawyer. However as it's clear that you're not either, it makes > little practical difference. > > On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 01:51:02AM -0600, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > > ... > > > > What is ignored is that the GPL contains a loophole - it DOES allow > > itself to be violated by a very specific person - the code copyright > > holder. > > There is no violation. The copyright holder is the licensor, not the > licensee. No one needs a license to use the materials to which she > holds the copyright. A license is used to grant (usually limited) > rights to people who do not hold the copyright. The copyright holder, > by definition, has those rights and does not need them to be assigned. > It is a violation of the intent of the GPL license, not a legal violation of copyright rights. You are correct in that, I should have made this more clear. > > The reason is that the GPL is a license that DOES NOT CHANGE the > > copyright. > > No license changes the copyright; see below. > > > In short, if you apply the real live BSD license to your code, you > > are explicitly transferring your copyright to the Regents of the > > University of California. > > This is nonsense. Copyright assignment and licensing are separate and > discrete. You certainly can assign your copyright to the Regents if you > wish. This has no doubt been done. However, you can assign your > copyright to anyone you wish, regardless of the license that is used. No, not for the BSD license, if you are using the term "BSD license" as it is understood by most people. You do know what the B in BSD stands for, right? I didn't say "the FreeBSD license" or a "BSD-like" license. Granted, from a legal perspective licensing and copyright assignment are separate. But, what the public understands as "BSD licensed" code is just that - code licensed by Berkeley. Copyright assignment to UCB is implicit here. Truthfully, the term "BSD license" is slang anyway. You will note on the following: http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/index.html that the FreeBSD project uses the legally correct term "BSD Copyright". > In fact, the instant you assign your copyright you no longer have the > right to decide under what license the copyrighted material will be > provided (if at all), although when assigning to the Regents "BSD" is > a pretty safe bet. Furthermore, licensing material under the BSD > license does not imply that the copyright will be transferred to > the Regents. The copyright holder is identified at the top of the > BSD license; this information is important as it identifies the > licensor, one party to the agreement represented by the license. > For material you wrote, you are the copyright holder unless and until > you explicitly assign the copyright to another entity, or you're under > some agreement with someone (with your employer, for example) that > causes the copyright for the product of your work to belong to them. > Identifying the Regents as the copyright holder at the top of a BSD > license pertaining to material you wrote probably is legally > sufficient to transfer the copyright to them, but you are not > obligated to identify them as the copyright holder or relinquish > your copyright just to use the BSD license. > > I refer you to the license itself: > > http://www.opensource.org/licenses/bsd-license.php > > Note the placeholder for . > You might consider that opensource.org is NOT a BSD site, it was setup by Linux people not BSD people. There has been little interest from opensource.org in FreeBSD or anything other than Linux. In fact, they are so bigoted that Bruce Perens, who was one of the founders of OSI, got completely disgusted with them and left. Details of this were documented in an interview Bruce did for the September 2001 issue of Linux Magazine, pages 35-38 You would get far better information about the BSD license from a BSD-related site, like the FreeBSD link I supplied above. > I fully expect you to argue that a BSD license that does not identify > the Regents of the University of California is not "the real live > BSD license". I would disagree. By what criteria can an authentic > BSD license be distinguished from lesser imitations? I doubt that > whether the Regents are the licensor are not is a criteria in common > use -- see above web site, which is about as authoritative a > reference as exists for free and open source licenses. It's also > instructive to peruse the source code for the ostensibly BSD-licensed > FreeBSD operating system and see who holds the copyright. > I would argue this because it's true. You saying that a BSD license is the same thing as a BSD-like license is simply false. And FreeBSD already has made it's statements regarding the source code copyright statements, as detailed on the FreeBSD site link above. You know, RMS when he wrote the GPL was worried about people like you. That is why he copyrighted the text of the GPL itself - to prevent historical revisionists like yourself from coming along and making statements like "By what criteria can an authentic GPL license be distinguished from lesser imitations" The BSD license wasn't copyrighted because back then nobody thought that someone would come along like you who would twist the meaning around through pure semantic games. People were more reasonable and figured that someone could read the BSD license affixed to the top of every source file! The Open Source Initiative is not "about as authoritative a reference as exists for free and open source licenses" It is a political PR machine that exists to keep Eric Raymond able to command expensive speaking fees from ignorant people who don't know any better. > Most of the rest of your arguments, being based on this fallacy, is > invalid. To the extent that your arguments against the GPL are > valid, they are equally valid arguments against the BSD license. > The OP wanted to know the DIFFERENCES between GPL and BSD based on ignorant comments made by a Linux bigot. (I would of course expect that Linus has a perfect right to be bigoted about an OS that he himself wrote, naturally!) I illustrated one of the great holes of the GPL in order to show that it is very different from the BSD license. I think that illustrated this point very well. If you would like to extend the discussion to one of the pros and cons of BSD vs GPL I would love to see your arguments. > > Ah, so your point is that people should transfer their copyrights to an > organization dedicated to keeping the code free. Well, maybe they should, > but that has nothing to do with which license is used. > The people that WROTE the GPL ie: Richard Stallman - are TELLING THE DEVELOPERS THAT USE IT that they should transfer copyright to the FSF. This isn't MY point, it is the stated position of the authors of the GPL. I would think that if I was a developer that was so all-fired up about the GPL that I would pay attention to what the authors of it were telling me to do with my code! > > > > The day that Linuc transfers his Linux copyright to the FSF I will > > start respecting what he has to say about licensing. Until then, > > what he is saying is pure bullshit. > > An interesting turn of phrase. > OK, penguin shit. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 09:34:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BA9C16A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 09:34:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from orion.frasa.net (orion.frasa.net [195.241.98.153]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADA5543D1D for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 09:34:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd@orion.frasa.net) Received: from localhost (orion [127.0.0.1]) by orion.frasa.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 088395F5; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:34:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from orion.frasa.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (orion.frasa.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 33489-07; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:34:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: by orion.frasa.net (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 96EC05F3; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:34:01 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:34:01 +0200 From: Mark Frasa To: Florian Hengstberger Message-ID: <20041027093401.GA33861@orion.frasa.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd at frasa.net cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Firewall and nmap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mark Frasa List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 09:34:31 -0000 On 2004.10.27 11:26:00 +0000, Florian Hengstberger wrote: > Hi! > > I'm compiled a Kernel using the GENERIC config-file that > comes with the default 5.2.1 installation adding support > for ipfw. > I tried to scan my computer with a linux machine running nmap, > but nmap tells me that the host seems to be down altough I was able > to ping the freebsd-host. > So I flushed all rools for the firewall with ipfw flush (the still > existing default rule enables all trafic because I compiled this in > my kernel, ipfw -c list told me that this is true.) > Anyway, nothing changes, all ports seem to be closed running nmap, > pings are successfull again! > > 1) What's wrong with my configuration? Don't know yet, but what does ipfw show says? Maybe it enabled the /etc/rc.firewall? > 2) I've tried to add all kernel options to this mail using the online > handbook from www.freeebsd.org. I realized that the firewall section > covers now the OpenBSD filter pf. WhatĹ˝s the state of the art? > How do I enable pf under 5.2.1 - package or port? To enable PF put in your firewall: options IPFILTER #ipfilter support These can be put optionally: options IPFILTER_LOG #ipfilter logging options IPFILTER_DEFAULT_BLOCK #block all packets by default I don't think you want the last one yet, so first comment it out. > 3) Is there something similar like nmap or is there a BSD-network scanner, > which usage is recommended? Dunno, i use nmap on my boxes as well. Works great. > > Thanks in advance, > Florian > Your welcome. Mark. > ------------------------------------------------------ > Florian Hengstberger > e0025265@student.tuwien.ac.at > http://stud3.tuwien.ac.at/~e0025265 > ------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 10:04:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F51316A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:04:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BED1743D3F for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:04:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) i9R9lDq83856; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 02:47:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Gert Cuykens" , Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 02:47:13 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: GPL vs BSD Licence X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:04:21 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Gert Cuykens > Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 9:59 PM > To: tm4525@aol.com > Cc: questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: GPL vs BSD Licence > > > If you buy a product what would you want ? A pretty box or pretty > software ? Finishing the product is just marketing and trying to make > a very pretty box to put the software in. No, not exactly. It's more than just a box and marketing. It is support also. > When something is open > source and you want to sell it you are forced to make it the best > peace of code out there. Or, you are forced to provide support for it. Or both. > Its what i call healthy competition. For me > open source translates into "If you think you can do better be my > guest" Finishing a product and making it closed source is just plain > wrong. Its like stealing from the church basket. Every body shares > something and you want to take it and keep it for your self. > Perhaps this is true in some cases, but not all. Take for example the development of the TCP/IP stack. When BSD came out with TCP/IP networking, there were a lot of companies that "finished" it and then made their finished product closed-source. But, if you think about it, this WASN'T a bad thing! In fact, it was a very good thing! Because what this did is it created a situation where practically all vendor's implementations of TCP/IP worked very well with each other. This of course, promoted the rapid spread of TCP/IP, which gave UNIX a big leg up. It is fair to say I think that if the Internet had been developed around some other protocol than TCP/IP that was NOT native to UNIX, that we would not see the prevalence of UNIX webservers on the Internet that we do. I think that in MOST cases, even the people that finish an open source product then sell it and keep their mods to themselves, they are contributing back to the open source. Granted much less than people who share. But, the fact that the product exists at all helps the open source package. When Apple selected FreeBSD as the base for Darwin and MacOS X, it gave a huge amount of legitimacy to FreeBSD. Most of the major FreeBSD developers went to work for Apple, as a matter of fact, and while Apple didn't contribute a flood of code back into FreeBSD, I am sure that a goodly amount of FreeBSD development that we don't know about takes place on Apple company time. But, it helps because if you go in today to pitch a FreeBSD solution, bringing up the Apple tie can help you to get the deal. Also, many MacOS users who graduated to MacOS X once they got over the initial learning curve of the operating system, they have got more interested in UNIX. I would suspect that we will see some of those folks start to make some contributions back to FreeBSD or to UNIX software in general. And of course, don't forget all the commercial software vendors who were previously selling MacOS applications, now those folks are porting or have ported their stuff to MacOS X. It's a lot easier to go from MacOX X to UNIX, then from MacOS Classic to UNIX. So, don't knock this kind of thing when you see it happen, just keep in mind that there are always going to be some benefits, perhaps not just that visible. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 10:06:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4519716A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:06:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [198.92.228.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 099D743D31 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:06:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4969860CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 05:06:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 70713-09 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 05:06:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from racerx.makeworld.com (racerx.makeworld.com [198.92.228.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 829AF60CD for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 05:06:42 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 05:06:57 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <32ab229c0410261154b0064c9@mail.gmail.com> <417EDE51.4010909@theatre.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <417EDE51.4010909@theatre.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410270506.57798.racerx@makeworld.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.1.2 at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic Subject: Re: First impressions of FreeBSD 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: racerx@makeworld.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:06:45 -0000 On Tuesday 26 October 2004 06:31 pm, Jonathan T. Sage wrote: > Gordon Freeman wrote: > > ipfstat doesn't run. The error: > > openkmem:open:no such file or directory > > device mem > > in your kernel config. this bit me in the ass as well. > > ~j Heh - I see they pushed the formal release back to Nov. 5 My 5.3-RELEASE runs just dandy -- Best regards, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 10:19:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30BD416A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:19:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from postfix4-1.free.fr (postfix4-1.free.fr [213.228.0.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF74843D49 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:19:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from adrien-reboisson@astase.com) Received: from ASTASEADRFIX (lns-vlq-23-82-255-107-246.adsl.proxad.net [82.255.107.246]) by postfix4-1.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id DAB3B1EBF56 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 12:18:58 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <003d01c4bc0e$60222130$0200a8c0@ASTASEADRFIX> From: "Adrien Reboisson" To: Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 12:18:59 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: Mozilla installation - XFree86 Makefile broken ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:19:01 -0000 Hi all ! I'm new to freeBSD and I've a question about mozilla installation. I want to install mozilla. I use : su cd /usr/ports/www/mozilla make Files begin to be downloaded on my computer, all seems to be OK... But suddenly the process is stopped : ===> Configuring for XFree86-fontScalable-4.4.0_1 (cd /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-fontScalable/work/xc/fonts/encodings && imake -DUseInstalled -DProjectRoot=/usr/X11R6 -I/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config -DTOPDIR=../../.. -DCURDIR=.; make Makefiles ; make includes ; make depend) "Makefile", line 664: Missing dependency operator "Makefile", line 666: Missing dependency operator "Makefile", line 667: Missing dependency operator "Makefile", line 668: Missing dependency operator "Makefile", line 669: Missing dependency operator "Makefile", line 671: Missing dependency operator make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-fontScalable. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/pango. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/mozilla. A makefile seems to be broken. I tried to install GAIM, for instance, with the same result, since it seems to require the "XFree86-fontScalable-4.4.0_1" which use the corrupted makefile. My question is very simple : what should I do ? Thank you very much ! Regards, A.R From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 10:20:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E435516A518 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:20:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D223C43D55 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:20:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226])i9RAKRWT003790; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:20:28 +0300 Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (orion [127.0.0.1]) i9RAKQp2001277; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:20:26 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost)i9RAKPj7001276; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:20:25 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:20:25 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Jian Guang Xu Message-ID: <20041027102025.GA653@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <274e8bdc041026133120a464ff@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <274e8bdc041026133120a464ff@mail.gmail.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: some advice needed to considering to move my w2k machine into a freebsd workstation. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:20:41 -0000 On 2004-10-26 16:31, Jian Guang Xu wrote: > My current system follows: > AMD Athlon 1600+, 1 Gigabytes RAM, 40 Giga harddrive, GeForce 2 with > 32 Mb, AC97 Onboard Audio Adaptor, D-Link DFE-538TX. The hardware is more than ok for running recent versions of FreeBSD. You shouldn't have problems, as far as the hardware is concerned. The comments below refer to each of the software packages, applications or services you currently use. It's probably a long reply -- too long for all of it to be correct -- but, since it's always good news to find out that people want to try using FreeBSD, let's hope I get most of it right ;-) > The system got follow applications: > . W2K Workstation Professional runs very smooth right now. > . Firefox 1.0 for most of the web surfing. I recently switched to Firefox 1.x from Mozilla 1.7.x and all the sites I have to visit work like a charm. There is one minor point that I miss from the Mozilla menu (being able to zoom at specific percentage, i.e. 105%), but in general the change seemed ok. > . IE occasionally but necessary for some of the web-sites I need to go to due to > personally reason. This could be a problem. Don't these sites work with Firefox at all? If not, and you do decide to work with FreeBSD, you can always fire up VMWare and boot into a Windows installation, but I am not sure how well that would work, as I don't use VMWare. > . Thunderbird for me email and newsgroup reading. This should work on FreeBSD too. > . VMWare to testing FreeBSD. Not sure. I haven't used VMWare on FreeBSD. Perhaps another member of the list who has can reply here. > . ACT! 2005 as a CRM software (personal organizer as well) but I'm trying > to move to a internet application via www.freecrm.com I'm not sure about `ACT! 2005', you'd have to ask the company that releases it regarding availability of FreeBSD versions, but freecrm seems promising and all it needs is a browser. That's cool. > . OpenOffice currently runs in my system with MS Office removed. This runs on FreeBSD too. If you are not using MS Office at all, the transition should have no ill effects on the way you work with Office formats. > . Acrobat 5.0 for form editing(Occasionally) Form editing is something I haven't used, so I don't know if it's supported by some PDF reader in FreeBSD. Previewing of PDF files works beautifully though. There is print/gv, graphics/xpdf and an integrated PS/PDF viewer in both Gnome and KDE. If you ever test the print/gv or graphics/xpdf packages, please let me know. I'll tell you how to configure your browser (Firefox or Mozilla) to use one of these for opening PS and/or PDF files and a few tricks that will make your previewing easier. > . MusicMatch for online radio (all the time) > . Realplayer for DVD/Movie(Occasionally) I usually listen to online broadcasts with audio/mpg123 or audio/x11amp (a winamp clone for X11). I'm not sure if these two can work with the online radio stations you like listening too though. Perhaps if you mentioned the names of the stations or the format of their broadcast someone else can help with this one, telling us if FreeBSD has all the proper utilities/packages. For movies I use multimedia/mplayer. It cna play almost anything I can swing at its face. It lacks the bells and whistles media player has on Windows, but it works fine and that's what I mostly care about. > . I have online conference calls using MS Media Player Plugin which is very > important for me. This is probably the most important reason why you should do a very careful research, to decide *if* you want to switch to FreeBSD and then *how* it's going to be done to minimize down-time. Bearing in mind the history of Media Player and the way non-standard, proprietary, closed protocols or formats are used by its plugins, I don't think compatibility with the conference calls plugin will be easy to achieve with FreeBSD. I'd be happy to be proven wrong here, but until then I doubt. > . Zonealarm as my firewall, Norton Antirus. Firewalls are a strong FreeBSD point. ZoneAlarm has always annoyed me. I am more a fan of firewalls like ipfilter or pf, which don't depend on the program name or the program's executable file name to work correctly. FreeBSD has three different firewalls integrated into the system. Their close-integration with the system is an important point to note. The firewalls in our world are not third-party add-ons that may or may not work, depending on how well they followed incomplete specifications about the internals of a proprietary, closed system (like Windows). They are developed as part of the system itself, using the same procedures and QA processes that the rest of the system uses. Being available does not mean they are forced upon you either. You have the ultimate choice of using one, two, all three of them or none at all. > . I'm using a home network connected to Rogers High Speed via DHCP protocol, > another machine is a XP laptop. This should work too. > My job is in Marketing field so I do need the system to be robust and more > productivity. At the same time, I have the dream to play OS around and hack > into the system at my spare time. Robustness, stability of both runtime behavior and interface, performance and security are fields in which FreeBSD excels. Productivity is something that depends on the job you have to do, the tools you choose to do it and the myriad of minor, subtle details that make a difference while you work. This is something that you will have to judge for yourself though. Nobody can tell you if you are going to be more productive with FreeBSD, because nobody is... well... you. > To be honest, I'm pretty happy with my current system with all the feature I > specified. You are happy with the current setup, but it's also nice that you consider trying out something different. The fact that you have no problem with your current setup should weigh a lot more than anything else, if you ask me. I'm not advocating that you should stick with Windows forever. Just that you should take your time and test FreeBSD for your type of work; test it as much as you need, in order to decide if it can fit your style. > Is there anybody could point out a way to play FreeBSD around and at the > same time, I could perform my job easily? As I said, I need the Media Player > plug in a lot, and any suggestion for a CRM software under BSD would be much > appreciated. My job is in software development. Thus, I haven't used Media Player or any sort of CRM application. I'm sure that anyone who has and is a member of this list will help you a lot more with these two. Regards, Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 10:20:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B801716A53F for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:20:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp109.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp109.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C5EB143D3F for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:20:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from benwy_01@yahoo.com.au) Received: from unknown (HELO ?210.55.47.136?) (benwy?01@210.55.47.136 with plain) by smtp109.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Oct 2004 10:20:17 -0000 Message-ID: <417F76C6.8080904@yahoo.com.au> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 23:21:58 +1300 From: Ben Washington-Yule User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040918 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Diagnosing program crashes. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:20:42 -0000 I have just destroyed a keyboard over this utterly frustrating problem; Evolution, (usr/ports/mail/evolution) crashes only about 1-2 minutes of use and by crash I mean that it crashes the entire system; screen freezes, keyboard locks up, have to flick switch off at back of computer. These crashes are not occasional; they happen after Evolution has been open for 1-2 minutes without fail. I have had this same problem with opera and linux-opera before but I pretended it just "didn't happen" and quickly deinstalled the ports (I was convinced it was impossible to crash FreeBSD - now I relise FreeBSD wasn't at fault - it was the programs in question). I need to know where to start looking to diagnose this problem; I don't expect anyone will be able to say exactly what is causing the problem as it could be anything I suppose but I would like some pointers on what to do to try and solve the problem myself. There are no *.core files or any sign that the app has crashed after a reboot and thus I am completely clueless as to where to start looking for signs thereof. Many thanks for any help or pointers in general, - Ben From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 10:29:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3D5416A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:29:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp104.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp104.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.169.223]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D019143D2F for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:29:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from benwy_01@yahoo.com.au) Received: from unknown (HELO ?210.55.47.136?) (benwy?01@210.55.47.136 with plain) by smtp104.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Oct 2004 10:29:27 -0000 Message-ID: <417F78ED.6090902@yahoo.com.au> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 23:31:09 +1300 From: Ben Washington-Yule User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040918 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adrien Reboisson References: <003d01c4bc0e$60222130$0200a8c0@ASTASEADRFIX> In-Reply-To: <003d01c4bc0e$60222130$0200a8c0@ASTASEADRFIX> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mozilla installation - XFree86 Makefile broken ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:29:28 -0000 Adrien Reboisson wrote: > Hi all ! > > I'm new to freeBSD and I've a question about mozilla installation. > > I want to install mozilla. I use : > > su > cd /usr/ports/www/mozilla > make > > Files begin to be downloaded on my computer, all seems to be OK... But > suddenly the process is stopped : > > ===> Configuring for XFree86-fontScalable-4.4.0_1 > (cd > /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-fontScalable/work/xc/fonts/encodings && > imake -DUseInstalled -DProjectRoot=/usr/X11R6 > -I/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config -DTOPDIR=../../.. -DCURDIR=.; make > Makefiles ; make includes ; make depend) > "Makefile", line 664: Missing dependency operator > "Makefile", line 666: Missing dependency operator > "Makefile", line 667: Missing dependency operator > "Makefile", line 668: Missing dependency operator > "Makefile", line 669: Missing dependency operator > "Makefile", line 671: Missing dependency operator > make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-fontScalable. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/pango. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/www/mozilla. > > > A makefile seems to be broken. I tried to install GAIM, for instance, > with the same result, since it seems to require the > "XFree86-fontScalable-4.4.0_1" which use the corrupted makefile. > > My question is very simple : what should I do ? > > Thank you very much ! > > Regards, > > A.R > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > For a quick fix you could try "pkg_add -r XFree86-fontScalable", this will download and install the pre-compiled binary. When was the last time you CVSup'd? - Ben From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 10:36:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 302E516A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:36:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D241E43D67 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:36:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-160-246-51.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.160.246.51]) by pi.codefab.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i9RAaTGU030671 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 27 Oct 2004 06:36:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <417F7A2D.7070104@mac.com> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 06:36:29 -0400 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Graham Bentley References: <3.0.6.32.20041027084549.007d1100@mail.uk2.net> In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20041027084549.007d1100@mail.uk2.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.0 required=5.5 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on pi.codefab.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flash Drives Sanity Check X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:36:37 -0000 Graham Bentley wrote: > I was wondering if anyone had any experience > of running FreeBSD out of Compact Flash ? I would consider using NetBSD instead, as that OS seems to support a stripped-down config somewhat easier than FreeBSD (or PicoBSD). I am using NetBSD on a Soekris 4801 box via CF: http://www.soekris.com/net4801.htm > The HDD to Flash adapters are around 15GBP > here and 1GB of Flash about 70GBP > > I know there are some projects around that use > Compact Flash (like Openbrick) but I was thinking > more in terms of running a stripped down desktop > workstation. > > Does CF stand lots of read / write operations ? Not really. You've identified a major concern. > I read somewhere that it has quite low life > expectancy ? Many CF cards are only rated for 10K or 20K writes, although I believe that some newer CF cards will handle 50K to 100K writes. It is highly recommended that you mount filesystems read-only or at least noatime, to avoid scribbing non-significant updates to the superblock and common directories. It's also a good idea to mount /var on a RAM disk. CF is better suited for embedded applications like firewalls and the like than it is for general-purpose use. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 10:48:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F9F216A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:48:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7D2143D2F for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:48:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from me.at.lists@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 65so331062wri for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 03:48:41 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=DSolnLi5Jq+vLeh9ltsPD3XA1V2xK0oQqPQQkUX3grj8NcJc9K3Q3O0eOLqnLb+8DbeTxXVqNd244d5LZa+okLjp2IImEouw2FM7qY1/zQ8P1c2w2LfU/5HzaOdylTezB2Cubnu7yZRgwONzdN57oSWbAwN8C5SYb5wxEYwGSgo= Received: by 10.38.13.79 with SMTP id 79mr765929rnm; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 03:48:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.22.42 with HTTP; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 03:48:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 12:48:41 +0200 From: Mini Me To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: 4.10 -> 5.2.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mini Me List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:48:42 -0000 Where can i find a step by step upgrade method (from FreeBSD 4.10 to 5.2.1)? Sorry if I seem lazy, but is somehow urgent (because a Plesk interface must be installed). Please post any link you think might be useful. Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 10:55:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDDCF16A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:55:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from postfix4-1.free.fr (postfix4-1.free.fr [213.228.0.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9936C43D48 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:55:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from adrien-reboisson@astase.com) Received: from ASTASEADRFIX (lns-vlq-23-82-255-107-246.adsl.proxad.net [82.255.107.246]) by postfix4-1.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id A69BB1EF3B8; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 12:55:21 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <006901c4bc13$754bd100$0200a8c0@ASTASEADRFIX> From: "Adrien Reboisson" To: "Ben Washington-Yule" References: <003d01c4bc0e$60222130$0200a8c0@ASTASEADRFIX> <417F78ED.6090902@yahoo.com.au> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 12:55:22 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mozilla installation - XFree86 Makefile broken ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:55:22 -0000 Thank you Ben I don't understand where is the problem : when I "ask" freeBSD to install mozilla, sources and makefiles are downloaded from Internet - they should be up to date, no ? Anyway I'll try to use your command. Thank you very much. Regards, A.R. > For a quick fix you could try "pkg_add -r XFree86-fontScalable", this will > download and install the pre-compiled binary. When was the last time you > CVSup'd? > > - Ben > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 10:57:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50F0616A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:57:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gldis.ca (constans.gldis.ca [66.11.169.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B381743D5E for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:57:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gldisater@gldis.ca) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gldis.ca (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i9RB3nds068467; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 07:03:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gldisater@gldis.ca) From: Jeremy Faulkner To: Mini Me In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-uTFLfKmXi9vxtqj0JIG6" Message-Id: <1098860404.3270.3.camel@ocean-deep.gldis.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 07:01:02 +0000 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.80rc4/524/Sun Oct 10 11:36:08 2004 clamav-milter version 0.80j on constans.gldis.ca X-Virus-Status: Clean cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.10 -> 5.2.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:57:54 -0000 --=-uTFLfKmXi9vxtqj0JIG6 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 2004-10-27 at 10:48, Mini Me wrote: > Where can i find a step by step upgrade method (from FreeBSD 4.10 to 5.2.= 1)? > Sorry if I seem lazy, but is somehow urgent (because a Plesk interface > must be installed). > Please post any link you think might be useful. >=20 > Thanks 1. Back up all valuable data from the 4.x install 2. Install a fresh copy of 5.x 3. Restore data from 4.x 4. ??? 5. Profit! --=20 Jeremy Faulkner --=-uTFLfKmXi9vxtqj0JIG6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBf0d0fb0Lle2MIEIRAs+cAKCHhSZOwAf15qLuYkce2SzfQdJvKwCgkQtE sQmwwCM7WgTUPTVxhnrB/Q8= =rxgN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-uTFLfKmXi9vxtqj0JIG6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 11:03:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EB3D16A4CF for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:03:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA5B543D41 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:03:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from me.at.lists@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 65so332228wri for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 04:03:41 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=XnxkdTbLXowG7USayQo563071KMvIYN1nItygCov7qfMLaSdowOlVaG3B9JbWev5kI3hzSQIXxXR3Vd9OhrQDLHyhHVaGj79bVtbFJwz8n7PSTXy1kW2MZDVCfkRvtU3GfPxoDj7lF2MVLt1J8noZS45OeKi1CrJqfWnKzluRSc= Received: by 10.38.149.71 with SMTP id w71mr769499rnd; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 04:03:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.22.42 with HTTP; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 04:03:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:03:41 +0200 From: Mini Me To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1098860404.3270.3.camel@ocean-deep.gldis.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <1098860404.3270.3.camel@ocean-deep.gldis.ca> Subject: Re: 4.10 -> 5.2.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mini Me List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:03:47 -0000 I forgot to say it : "remote". On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 07:01:02 +0000, Jeremy Faulkner wrote: > On Wed, 2004-10-27 at 10:48, Mini Me wrote: > > > > Where can i find a step by step upgrade method (from FreeBSD 4.10 to 5.2.1)? > > Sorry if I seem lazy, but is somehow urgent (because a Plesk interface > > must be installed). > > Please post any link you think might be useful. > > > > Thanks > > 1. Back up all valuable data from the 4.x install > 2. Install a fresh copy of 5.x > 3. Restore data from 4.x > 4. ??? > 5. Profit! > -- > Jeremy Faulkner > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 11:03:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D612216A4CF for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:03:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp108.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp108.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ADFEC43D41 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:03:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from benwy_01@yahoo.com.au) Received: from unknown (HELO ?210.55.148.85?) (benwy?01@210.55.148.85 with plain) by smtp108.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Oct 2004 11:03:55 -0000 Message-ID: <417F8101.4040106@yahoo.com.au> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 00:05:37 +1300 From: Ben Washington-Yule User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040918 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adrien Reboisson References: <003d01c4bc0e$60222130$0200a8c0@ASTASEADRFIX> <417F78ED.6090902@yahoo.com.au> <006901c4bc13$754bd100$0200a8c0@ASTASEADRFIX> In-Reply-To: <006901c4bc13$754bd100$0200a8c0@ASTASEADRFIX> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mozilla installation - XFree86 Makefile broken ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:03:56 -0000 Adrien Reboisson wrote: > Thank you Ben > > I don't understand where is the problem : when I "ask" freeBSD to > install mozilla, sources and makefiles are downloaded from Internet - > they should be up to date, no ? Not necessarily; you must update the "skeleton" files yourself using a utility like CVSup. > > Anyway I'll try to use your command. Thank you very much. > > Regards, > > A.R. > >> For a quick fix you could try "pkg_add -r XFree86-fontScalable", this >> will download and install the pre-compiled binary. When was the last >> time you CVSup'd? >> >> - Ben >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > You may like to read http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports.html and http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 11:14:17 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E45CD16A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:14:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7987043D39 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:14:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-160-246-51.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.160.246.51]) by pi.codefab.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i9RBE69u052857 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 27 Oct 2004 07:14:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <417F82FE.6030201@mac.com> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 07:14:06 -0400 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ted Mittelstaedt References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.2 required=5.5 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on pi.codefab.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GPL vs BSD Licence X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:14:18 -0000 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: [ ... ] > You might consider that opensource.org is NOT a BSD site, it was > setup by Linux people not BSD people. Sort of. The Open Source definition started from Debian guidelines about "free software". However, the OSI board has people from various organizations besides Linux on there, including Sun (Danese Cooper), IBM/the Apache project (Ken Coar). You'll find people lurking from Apple (Ernie Prabhakar), Python/Zope, and various other projects. There seems to be less input from BSD-specific people besides Apple, true, but the BSD and MIT licenses are much less complicated than newer licenses and have been around longer, so perhaps people here don't see much need to spend time debating software license issues. > There has been little interest from opensource.org in FreeBSD or anything > other than Linux. This is not true of most people who are active on the OSI Open Source lists. > In fact, they are so bigoted that Bruce Perens, who was one of the > founders of OSI, got completely disgusted with them and left. > Details of this were documented in an interview Bruce did for > the September 2001 issue of Linux Magazine, pages 35-38 Perhaps so. There are some people there who cross the line into rabid Linux evangelism, but you can find OS zealots pretty much anywhere. Nevertheless, I got the impression that the issue you refer to had more to do with a personal conflict between Bruce Perens and ESR. > You would get far better information about the BSD license from > a BSD-related site, like the FreeBSD link I supplied above. Larry Rosen provides legal services for them, and he knows his stuff. > The Open Source Initiative is not "about as authoritative a > reference as exists for free and open source licenses" It is > a political PR machine that exists to keep Eric Raymond able > to command expensive speaking fees from ignorant people > who don't know any better. Besides the OSI, there is the Free Software Foundation, and the Creative Commons effort. Saying that the OSI is not an authoritative reference for "open source" is a lot like saying the FSF isn't authoritative on what "free software" means. No doubt ESR has his own agenda, but he is reasonably open about his positions, his goals, and the methods he uses to achieve them. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 11:18:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F4DB16A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:18:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fep2.cogeco.net (smtp.cogeco.net [216.221.81.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BCC343D1F for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:18:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bbobowski@cogeco.ca) Received: from [24.150.215.98] (d150-215-98.home.cgocable.net [24.150.215.98]) by fep2.cogeco.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B01532865 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 07:18:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <417F8404.50705@cogeco.ca> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 07:18:28 -0400 From: Brian Bobowski User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040626 Thunderbird/0.7.1 Mnenhy/0.6.0.104 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD User Questions List References: <003d01c4bc0e$60222130$0200a8c0@ASTASEADRFIX> <417F78ED.6090902@yahoo.com.au> In-Reply-To: <417F78ED.6090902@yahoo.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Mozilla installation - XFree86 Makefile broken ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:18:19 -0000 Ben Washington-Yule wrote: > For a quick fix you could try "pkg_add -r XFree86-fontScalable", this > will download and install the pre-compiled binary. When was the last > time you CVSup'd? Good luck with that. When I'd just installed 5.2.1, I could pkg_add -r with a fair likelihood of success. Since a CVSup, I don't think I've had a single package be found - except some of the KDE packages when I specifically set a PACKAGESITE. -BB From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 11:24:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 597A316A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:24:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 9.hellooperator.net (cpc3-cdif2-3-0-cust202.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.103.32.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DCAD43D6D for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:24:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rasputin@hellooperator.net) Received: from rasputin by 9.hellooperator.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1CMltl-0002mx-5f for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 12:23:25 +0100 Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 12:23:25 +0100 From: Dick Davies To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20041027112324.GC15691@lb.tenfour> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: Rasputin Subject: 5.3 external ehci dvd drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dick Davies List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:24:29 -0000 Just got a new usb 2 enclosure and swapped out my internal cd/dvd drive to it. I can mount it fine on 5.3 as cd(4) over umass(4) but it's too slow to play DVDs over. Has anyone got this working, and is there a step I've missed? The 1Mb/s speed line looks worrying, though usbdevs does show it hanging off echi cd0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device cd0: 1.000MB/s transfers ? -- And if you think you're going to bleed all over me you're even wronger than you normally be - The Specials, 'Little Bitch' Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 11:32:51 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FDE116A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:32:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F8F343D49 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:32:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bjmccann@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id v18so68794rnb for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 04:32:50 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=c/EQosyIPeoCva4VPGdFMbdxSyKe5M6PoLfYGvzmes+WdN+PNyZxDD+frZCa40jznfuu/96yEwcUwqk/7TvgCsXYWwAB4zp9vhx6xyzwP3tuNi2WOYkcYRiCTxHMeQgjoJS3eaV8v6UplnZVt37/jm4oM4yn+qqmpUolyli247Y= Received: by 10.38.98.30 with SMTP id v30mr438541rnb; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 04:32:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.179.42 with HTTP; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 04:32:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2b5f066d041027043241275cdf@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 07:32:50 -0400 From: Brian McCann To: FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: <20041027112324.GC15691@lb.tenfour> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20041027112324.GC15691@lb.tenfour> Subject: Re: 5.3 external ehci dvd drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Brian McCann List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:32:51 -0000 Did you compile ehci into the kernel? I chose to upgrade to 5.3 RC1 since it seamed to have better ehci support...still didn't work all that well with my drives...but it worked. Remember, ehci is new and buggy. :) --Brian On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 12:23:25 +0100, Dick Davies wrote: > > Just got a new usb 2 enclosure and swapped out my internal cd/dvd drive to > it. I can mount it fine on 5.3 as cd(4) over umass(4) but it's too slow to > play DVDs over. > > Has anyone got this working, and is there a step I've missed? > The 1Mb/s speed line looks worrying, though usbdevs does show it hanging off > echi > > cd0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device > cd0: 1.000MB/s transfers > > ? > > -- > And if you think you're going to bleed all over me > you're even wronger than you normally be - The Specials, 'Little Bitch' > Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 11:41:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8BD516A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:41:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 9.hellooperator.net (cpc3-cdif2-3-0-cust202.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.103.32.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87A6843D54 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:41:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rasputin@hellooperator.net) Received: from rasputin by 9.hellooperator.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1CMmA0-0006yX-DK; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 12:40:12 +0100 Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 12:40:12 +0100 From: Dick Davies To: Brian McCann Message-ID: <20041027114012.GD15691@lb.tenfour> References: <20041027112324.GC15691@lb.tenfour> <2b5f066d041027043241275cdf@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2b5f066d041027043241275cdf@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: Rasputin cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: 5.3 external ehci dvd drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dick Davies List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:41:16 -0000 * Brian McCann [1032 12:32]: > Did you compile ehci into the kernel? I chose to upgrade to 5.3 RC1 > since it seamed to have better ehci support...still didn't work all > that well with my drives...but it worked. Remember, ehci is new and > buggy. :) Yeah, that's what I thought :) Luckily the enclosure has a firewire port too, might I have more luck with that? -- Power corrupts. Absolute power - is kind of neat. - John Lehman, Secretary of the Navy, 1981-1987 Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 11:45:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D716A16A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:45:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from postfix4-1.free.fr (postfix4-1.free.fr [213.228.0.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BA9843D4C for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:45:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rabusier@free.fr) Received: from ASTASEADRFIX (lns-vlq-23-82-255-107-246.adsl.proxad.net [82.255.107.246]) by postfix4-1.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6B551F23CB; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:45:08 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <008e01c4bc1a$6a0ac9c0$0200a8c0@ASTASEADRFIX> From: "Adrien REBOISSON" To: "Ben Washington-Yule" References: <003d01c4bc0e$60222130$0200a8c0@ASTASEADRFIX> <417F78ED.6090902@yahoo.com.au> <006901c4bc13$754bd100$0200a8c0@ASTASEADRFIX> <417F8101.4040106@yahoo.com.au> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:45:09 +0200 Organization: Astase MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0444-0, 26/10/2004), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mozilla installation - XFree86 Makefile broken ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:45:11 -0000 Okay : to upgrade the port system, I typed : portupgrade -all (I suppose it has the same effect than using cvsup, no ?) But, I still encounter problems with XFree86 (it's the first package which is downloaded) : >> XFree86-4.4.0-src-1.tgz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/xc. >> Attempting to fetch from >> http://www.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu/pub/XFree86/4.4.0/source/. fetch: XFree86-4.4.0-src-1.tgz: local modification time does not match remote >> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.xfree86.org/pub/XFree86/4.4.0/source/. ^[[A fetch: XFree86-4.4.0-src-1.tgz: local modification time does not match remote >> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.rge.com/pub/X/XFree86/4.4.0/source/. fetch: XFree86-4.4.0-src-1.tgz: local modification time does not match remote >> Attempting to fetch from ftp://archive.progeny.com/XFree86/4.4.0/source/. fetch: XFree86-4.4.0-src-1.tgz: local modification time does not match remote >> Attempting to fetch from >> ftp://ftp.mirrorcentral.com/pub/XFree86/4.4.0/source/. [.....cut....] >> Attempting to fetch from >> ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/xc/. fetch: XFree86-4.4.0-src-1.tgz: local modification time does not match remote >> Couldn't fetch it - please try to retrieve this >> port manually into /usr/ports/distfiles/xc and try again. *** Error code 1 Well, okay : cd /usr/ports/distfiles/xc tar -xvzf XFree86-4.4.0-src-5.tgz [...] cd xc/fonts/scaled There is no makefile, just a file named "IMakefile" (why ?) mv IMakefile Makefile make "Makefile", line 33: Missing dependency operator "Makefile", line 34: Missing dependency operator make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue What should I do ? I'm a bit lost :) Thank you ! A.R. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Washington-Yule" To: "Adrien Reboisson" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 1:05 PM Subject: Re: Mozilla installation - XFree86 Makefile broken ? > Adrien Reboisson wrote: > >> Thank you Ben >> >> I don't understand where is the problem : when I "ask" freeBSD to install >> mozilla, sources and makefiles are downloaded from Internet - they should >> be up to date, no ? > > Not necessarily; you must update the "skeleton" files yourself using a > utility like CVSup. > >> >> Anyway I'll try to use your command. Thank you very much. >> >> Regards, >> >> A.R. >> >>> For a quick fix you could try "pkg_add -r XFree86-fontScalable", this >>> will download and install the pre-compiled binary. When was the last >>> time you CVSup'd? >>> >>> - Ben >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > You may like to read > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports.html and > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 12:03:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5434116A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 12:03:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.proficuous.com (www.proficuous.com [209.240.79.128]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 236F643D4C for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 12:03:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ml@proficuous.com) Received: from [192.168.3.69] (aaron-workstation.proficuous.com [192.168.3.69]) by mail.proficuous.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46F32A8943D; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 07:03:14 -0500 (CDT) From: "Aaron P. Martinez" To: Erik Norgaard In-Reply-To: <417F5E6B.2080100@locolomo.org> References: <417F5E6B.2080100@locolomo.org> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1098878627.4101.21.camel@aaron.proficuous.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 (1.4.6-2) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 07:03:47 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: VPN questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 12:03:18 -0000 On Wed, 2004-10-27 at 03:38, Erik Norgaard wrote: > Hi, > > I am looking at how to implement VPN but I'm getting confused as to how > IPSec, IKE, OpenSSL, FreeSWAN, racoon etc. all fit into the picture. I > am looking at two scenarios, and I have two questions. > > 1) Standard IPSec tunnel: > > +----+ IPSec/VPN +----+ > LAN---| FW |-----------| FW |---LAN > +----+ +----+ > > In this scenario: Can CARP/pf handle VPN/IPSec connections incase the > master unit fails? (I am assuming that both ends have fixed public > routable ip's). > > 2) VPN for mobile users > > +----+ VPN +-----+ > LAN---| FW |-----------| FW? |---[mobile unit] > +----+ +-----+ > > For mobile users I can't be sure where they are, their ip, or if they > are behind NAT/firewall, nor can I trust the network until the mobile unit. > > IPSec breaks behind NAT, are there other altertives than ssh-tunnels I > should take a look at? (which? :-) I suggest looking at openvpn, it is a ssl based vpn that is fairly easy to set up. I might shy away from freeswan as it is for the most part out of development, only one more rollup and that's it. > > Thanks, Erik > -- > Ph: +34.666334818 web: www.locolomo.org > S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt > Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 > Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Aaron From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 12:42:17 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0763216A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 12:42:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99F6143D31 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 12:42:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from me.at.lists@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 65so340989wri for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 05:42:16 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=kKQ2qXcCCs/ue+x8FWqq4ol5Kt+wtTEwn3r+dqC/OLNIu1uRhHqFZnGCBFg2U6flmjwnm0hEacJXVIex6yk4exYDwfTgKc7FRdiv+mXl4+rUol73VU2EVbc28uAYAWuWsWR3t/tewmG0CqrUd8s6LQeIPFMHExIazDSnUeKPkZw= Received: by 10.38.149.79 with SMTP id w79mr807500rnd; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 05:42:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.22.42 with HTTP; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 05:42:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 14:42:16 +0200 From: Mini Me To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <1098860404.3270.3.camel@ocean-deep.gldis.ca> Subject: Re: 4.10 -> 5.2.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mini Me List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 12:42:17 -0000 like http://home.nyc.rr.com/computertaijutsu/FreeBSD53.html ? On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:03:41 +0200, Mini Me wrote: > I forgot to say it : "remote". > > > > > On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 07:01:02 +0000, Jeremy Faulkner wrote: > > On Wed, 2004-10-27 at 10:48, Mini Me wrote: > > > > > > > Where can i find a step by step upgrade method (from FreeBSD 4.10 to 5.2.1)? > > > Sorry if I seem lazy, but is somehow urgent (because a Plesk interface > > > must be installed). > > > Please post any link you think might be useful. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > 1. Back up all valuable data from the 4.x install > > 2. Install a fresh copy of 5.x > > 3. Restore data from 4.x > > 4. ??? > > 5. Profit! > > -- > > Jeremy Faulkner > > > > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 15:23:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E108516A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:23:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay22-f6.bay22.hotmail.com [64.4.16.56]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE24543D39 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:23:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mingzhang2004@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:23:04 -0700 Received: from 218.104.52.178 by by22fd.bay22.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:22:14 GMT X-Originating-IP: [218.104.52.178] X-Originating-Email: [mingzhang2004@hotmail.com] X-Sender: mingzhang2004@hotmail.com From: "Ming Zhang" To: mapsware@prodigy.net.mx, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:22:14 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gb2312; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Oct 2004 15:23:04.0595 (UTC) FILETIME=[B03FC630:01C4BB6F] X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 12:44:39 +0000 Subject: RE: Default router in a PPP conection was: [Re:] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:23:09 -0000 OK, everybody, thank you very much! I have solved the problem. The reason that my dns server doesn't work is that the pppoe server filters the udp packages away.And the seemly problem that the gateway for device and its own ip address are the same is not a problem actually, because the only way out for device is via the adsl line. >From: Martin Paredes >To: Ming Zhang , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Default router in a PPP conection was: [Re:] >Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 23:24:04 -0700 > >On Saturday 16 October 2004 08:29, Ming Zhang wrote: > > I want to know how to set the Default Gateway to be the pppoe server's ip. > > Or it's impossible? > >add default HISADDR > _________________________________________________________________ ÓëÁŞ»úµÄĹóÓŃ˝řĐĐ˝»Á÷Ł¬ÇëĘąÓĂ MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com/cn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 10:14:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E46A16A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:14:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ctb-mesg6.saix.net (ctb-mesg6.saix.net [196.25.240.78]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE3C443D39 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:14:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jaime@iwcp.net) Received: from wendy (wbs-203-208.telkomadsl.co.za [165.165.203.208]) by ctb-mesg6.saix.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 336015856C for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 12:14:34 +0200 (SAST) From: "Jaime Moss" To: Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 12:18:03 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 12:44:38 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Sorry X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:14:42 -0000 I am looking at non Microsoft platforms for a mail server. Does FreeBSD have one in it ? I will also be looking at Linux. What is the differnce between FreeBSD and Linux? Kind regards Jaime Moss From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 12:57:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BE9416A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 12:57:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from orion.frasa.net (orion.frasa.net [195.241.98.153]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2557D43D53 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 12:57:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsd@orion.frasa.net) Received: from localhost (orion [127.0.0.1]) by orion.frasa.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12AE35F5; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 14:57:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from orion.frasa.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (orion.frasa.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 34620-01; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 14:57:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: by orion.frasa.net (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6EB485B5; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 14:57:30 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 14:57:30 +0200 From: Mark Frasa To: Jaime Moss Message-ID: <20041027125730.GA34634@orion.frasa.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd at frasa.net cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sorry X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mark Frasa List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 12:57:39 -0000 On 2004.10.27 12:18:03 +0000, Jaime Moss wrote: > I am looking at non Microsoft platforms for a mail server. > > Does FreeBSD have one in it ? > > I will also be looking at Linux. > > What is the differnce between FreeBSD and Linux? > > Kind regards > > Jaime Moss Freebsd has one: Sendmail, and optionally you can install others like: - Postfix (sendmail based) - Exim For the differences of linux-freebsd take a look: http://librenix.com/?inode=3871 Mark. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 13:18:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AC9416A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:18:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.intradyn.com (ip67-95-33-115.z33-95-67.customer.algx.net [67.95.33.115]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE51643D54 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:18:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hmiller@intradyn.com) Received: from gamma (124-240-168-192.hq.intradyn.com [192.168.240.124] (may be forged)) by mail.intradyn.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id i9RDIYer060766; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 08:18:34 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from hmiller@intradyn.com) Message-ID: <200410270819470536.049E1A30@mail.intradyn.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.30.00.00 (4) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 08:19:47 -0500 From: "Henry Miller" To: "Jaime Moss" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sorry X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:18:35 -0000 On 10/27/2004 at 12:18 Jaime Moss wrote: >I am looking at non Microsoft platforms for a mail server. > >Does FreeBSD have one in it ? sendmail is included, though mostly because it always has been included, not because we feel it is any good. Postfix, exim, and qmail are in ports in case you want a different once. There may be more. (sendmail is hard to configure, and historiclly has been the injection point of many root cracks. Many people regard it as unfixable. How true any of this is can be debated) I have no opinion on which is best. All have their advocates. Each has advantages and disadvantages. You will have to decide which is better for you. >I will also be looking at Linux. > >What is the differnce between FreeBSD and Linux? Short answer: not much. Both a really good, free operating systems. Either will run your mail server just fine, in fact all the software I listed above will run on either. It is rare to find something that runs on linux that cannot be made to run on FreeBSD with little work. Long answer: ask on the advocacy lists. Saying anything more is off-topic for this list, because most answers come down to personal preference. Often any discussion soon starts to sound like Catholics and Lutherans arguing over religion, so be careful about asking this question. Note however that linux comes from many different distributions, which affects the differences. A short (incomplete) list of things that often come up when this question is asked: License,. Fragmentation, Hardware support, Quality of source code, Which algorithm is used in a particular place, Installers, How your configure it, and How you install programs. You get to decide for yourself. Unlike religions, you are not assigned a place in Hell for picking wrong. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 13:27:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D89316A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:27:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9831643D41 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:27:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nomadlogic@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so306272wri for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 06:27:34 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=Fzzrnrr8RpuxRLzcmBuEj4ftzkPaB44jEEH9XIu5cvBSbTZ0XfCzCOvJDOwb1qI5iBP8c1T+rwJA6mVx3Feui9Yqqwoin1uQN6BU7kHvKYUw8erUBpWTl3eoB8+SLUI6tiBLBKyGvjejCFkcfA2Hqhg3ej+6ZyHqTLaJRCFL4ac= Received: by 10.38.77.65 with SMTP id z65mr1154661rna; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 06:27:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.14.69 with HTTP; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 06:27:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <57d710000410270627188b4120@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 06:27:33 -0700 From: pete wright To: Hexren In-Reply-To: <432307798.20041027075440@hexren.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20041026162657.B873943D5D@mx1.FreeBSD.org> <1098825225.4101.17.camel@aaron.proficuous.com> <11516587842.20041026232016@hexren.net> <200410262030.49276.josh@tcbug.org> <432307798.20041027075440@hexren.net> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Re[2]: 2 Network Cards & 2 IP's? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: pete wright List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:27:35 -0000 On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 07:54:40 +0200, Hexren wrote: > > JP> On Tuesday 26 October 2004 21:20, Hexren wrote: > >> >> For example: > >> >> > >> >> 192.168.1.100 on NIC 1 > >> >> > >> >> 192.168.1.101 on NIC 2 > >> >> > >> >> Gateway 192.168.1.1 > >> > >> ---------------------------------- > >> > >> Am I seeing the wrong problem when I say that: > >> > >> #ifconfig NIC1 192.168.1.100 > >> #ifconfig NIC1 192.168.1.101 > >> #route add default 192.168.1.1 > >> > >> should do what you want ? > >> > >> Hexren > > JP> You can't put two NICs w/ the same subnet into a FBSD machine > > --------------------------------------------- > > I can't challenge that I never tried but it should surprise me if that > was true. What error message does the system give if you try to do > that ? > as per previous posts in this thread. basicly you get warning messages in your logs like so: > xl0 > arp: 192.168.1.100 is on fxp0 but got reply from 00:02:b3:9f:74:89 on > xl0 > arp: 192.168.1.1 is on fxp0 but got reply from 00:07:e9:10:43:78 on which can be diabled: net.link.ether.inet.log_arp_wrong_iface: 1 i belive, don't have a box to check the sysctl with right now.... -p -- ~~o0OO0o~~ Pete Wright www.nycbug.org NYC's *BSD User Group From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 13:39:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 794A016A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:39:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from top.daemonsecurity.com (FW-182-254.go.retevision.es [62.174.254.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04D5F43D49 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:39:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [192.168.0.32] (charm.daemonsecurity.com [192.168.0.32]) by top.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F0A8A1426; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 15:39:12 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <417FA4FD.5060802@locolomo.org> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 15:39:09 +0200 From: Erik Norgaard Organization: Loco Lomography User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040918 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, da, it, es MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jaime Moss References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.84.2.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Sorry X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:39:14 -0000 Jaime Moss wrote: > What is the differnce between FreeBSD and Linux? The differences really only matters if you are using one system and want to change, they are mostly neuances in everyday use. You can run all the mentioned mailservers equally well on both FreeBSD and Linux, same configuration files. Migrating from Linux to FreeBSD I only had to reformat the password file as Linux' shadow-file is slightly different format from FreeBSD master.passwd. I think the most clear difference, which will be important to you is the way you _maintain_ the systems: On Linux the normal administrator will often be installing binary packages using rpm - Gentoo and Debian have other ways to handle this. On *BSD the usual way is to use the ports tree and compile from source. Mostly it is a matter of personal taste, which system is for you, how you like to do things and how you work. I came from RedHat linux and have found I spend less time maintaining my systems with FreeBSD - but this just my subjective feeling. Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 14:18:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D76F516A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 14:18:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9918243D54 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 14:18:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 459FB51491; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 07:19:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 07:19:53 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Jaime Moss Message-ID: <20041027141953.GA32313@xor.obsecurity.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Sorry X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 14:18:50 -0000 --Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Oct 27, 2004 at 12:18:03PM +0200, Jaime Moss wrote: > I am looking at non Microsoft platforms for a mail server. >=20 > Does FreeBSD have one in it ? Yes, sendmail. There are also dozens of other mail servers in the ports collection. > I will also be looking at Linux. >=20 > What is the differnce between FreeBSD and Linux? They're different :) Seriously, this is a FAQ, and you should check the archives for extensive discussion of this topic. Kris --Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBf66IWry0BWjoQKURAkFdAJ49CvME+04Ds8sKNsbinHxWH9FNWACg0i3O UvHVnhVRSItkIlzh0TuXG8o= =uBX/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 14:20:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBC7C16A586 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 14:20:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EC7F43D2D for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 14:20:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6B400522C7; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 07:21:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 07:21:57 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: sonjaya Message-ID: <20041027142157.GA32383@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20041027062412.25404.qmail@web40911.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="WIyZ46R2i8wDzkSu" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041027062412.25404.qmail@web40911.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: xeon X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 14:20:55 -0000 --WIyZ46R2i8wDzkSu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 11:24:12PM -0700, sonjaya wrote: > dear all=20 >=20 > can i use freebsd for my server ( Xeon 2 G ) Yes. This question is off-topic for freebsd-arch though; support questions should be sent to questions@FreeBSD.org in future. > if can where should i read the document What document? > i plant use Freebsd 5.2 release. You should seriously consider using 5.3 instead, which will be released soon. Kris --WIyZ46R2i8wDzkSu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBf68FWry0BWjoQKURAiIEAKC9wXG0RTq71qQnofq8FxUDeSaZOQCgy0L6 3Afwd4CPc4hnCqB+Q6h4M/0= =ME+h -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --WIyZ46R2i8wDzkSu-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 14:33:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF51E16A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 14:33:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7145243D39 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 14:33:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jozzfest@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 65so356364wri for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 07:33:44 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=eX/TYkbXZoRdoPOO3j4qaXH2C9dD5h5DV4xVAMEueZ0rQxNA4wT4oEZE87kI4NNF5sM2jDTb7th742sqmKarFjAHp9fFJQYAGNVpfj/KU+O2pAhQKkNy1lEK8m0bnghahGRc+4iLJacaUuAzlLO+mz5WnhJw5JPRKzpeXxDqof0= Received: by 10.38.149.71 with SMTP id w71mr844534rnd; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 07:33:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.9.58 with HTTP; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 07:33:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6dd81fd60410270733ed05543@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:33:44 -0400 From: jozzfest To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: negative sbsize for uid = 0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jozzfest List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 14:33:46 -0000 I recently have been seeing the console and messages flooded with the following: Oct 27 00:00:01 deimos /kernel.old: negative sbsize for uid = 0 Oct 27 00:00:34 deimos last message repeated 131 times Oct 27 00:02:35 deimos last message repeated 51 times Oct 27 00:10:51 deimos last message repeated 43 times Oct 27 00:20:57 deimos last message repeated 36 times Oct 27 00:31:05 deimos last message repeated 36 times Oct 27 00:41:16 deimos last message repeated 36 times Oct 27 00:51:24 deimos last message repeated 36 times Oct 27 01:01:42 deimos last message repeated 36 times Oct 27 01:11:54 deimos last message repeated 36 times Oct 27 01:22:11 deimos last message repeated 58 times Oct 27 01:32:31 deimos last message repeated 36 times I haven't altered the Kernel since April. FreeBSD deimos.freudlevels.com 4.9-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE #1: Wed Apr 28 12:03:48 EDT 2004 root@deimos.freudlevels.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/DEIMOS i386 This appears to have mostly started happening when I attempted to mount_smbfs a share from a windows system. The performance was overwhelmingly slow and I thought whatever was causing it may have been fixed in a later version. I then upgraded Samba to 3.0.7 from ports. Was previously using 2.2.12, also from ports. Even after not attempting to remount that windows share, I'm still receiving tons of the sbsize for uid = 0 messages. I appreciate any help someone can give :) Thanks, - Joe (And now for spam) /var/run/dmesg.boot: Copyright (c) 1992-2003 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE #1: Wed Apr 28 12:03:48 EDT 2004 root@deimos.freudlevels.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/DEIMOS Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor (857.64-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x642 Stepping = 2 Features=0x183f9ff AMD Features=0xc0440000 real memory = 536788992 (524208K bytes) avail memory = 516845568 (504732K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel.old" at 0xc054e000. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled md0: Malloc disk Using $PIR table, 9 entries at 0xc00f1720 npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 agp0: mem 0xe6000000-0xe7ffffff at device 0.0 on pci0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 isab0: at device 4.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xd800-0xd80f at device 4.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 uhci0: port 0xd400-0xd41f irq 9 at device 4.2 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0xd000-0xd01f irq 9 at device 4.3 on pci0 usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered viapropm0: SMBus I/O base at 0xe800 viapropm0: port 0xe800-0xe80f at device 4.4 on pci0 viapropm0: SMBus revision code 0x40 smb0: on smbus0 rl0: port 0xa400-0xa4ff mem 0xe4800000-0xe48000ff irq 10 at device 11.0 on pci0 rl0: Ethernet address: 00:50:ba:4b:90:1b miibus0: on rl0 rlphy0: on miibus0 rlphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto pci0: at 12.0 irq 11 chip0: port 0xa000-0xa0ff irq 9 at device 13.0 on pci0 atapci1: port 0x8400-0x843f,0x8800-0x8803,0x9000-0x9007,0x9400-0x9403,0x9800-0x9807 mem 0xe3800000-0xe381ffff irq 10 at device 17.0 on pci0 ata2: at 0x9800 on atapci1 ata3: at 0x9000 on atapci1 orm0: > > We're lazy, we've always been lazy and damn it, we WILL always look for > something easier, more convienient that can do more. > It doesn't seem to matter whether the topic is international affairs or computer science, when the discussion degenerates to grandiose and overgeneralized assessments regarding "human nature" it's time for the thread to die, at least IMHO. EB From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 18:01:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFC6A16A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 18:01:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from simmts7-srv.bellnexxia.net (simmts7.bellnexxia.net [206.47.199.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F2CF43D1D for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 18:01:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jim.chapman@sympatico.ca) Received: from sympatico.ca ([67.71.10.225]) by simmts7-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP id <20041027180125.SJCB1960.simmts7-srv.bellnexxia.net@sympatico.ca> for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 14:01:25 -0400 Message-ID: <417FE31F.4090607@sympatico.ca> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 14:04:15 -0400 From: Jim Chapman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: ATA Slave Devices X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jim.chapman@sympatico.ca List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 18:01:27 -0000 I have 2 devices that will not work as slaves. They are a CD-RW drive and an IDE tape drive. They both work fine as masters. They give a message ATA identify retries exceeded during the boot. I have tried different combinations of masters and slaves and different cables. The bios recognizes them as slaves. Has anyone else experienced this problem? Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 18:02:51 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4EB216A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 18:02:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from outbox.allstream.net (outbox.allstream.net [207.245.244.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D54E43D2F for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 18:02:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from epilogue@allstream.net) Received: from localhost (mon-pq56-166.dial.allstream.net [216.123.143.54]) by outbox.allstream.net (Allstream MTA) with SMTP id 9AF6A571C9; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 14:02:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 14:02:38 -0400 From: epilogue To: orig injun Message-ID: <20041027140238.7e3a68bb@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20041027174100.19762.qmail@web53408.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20041027174100.19762.qmail@web53408.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12b (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.10) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.2.1 / XFree86 4.3 .0 on Dell Inspiron 5000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 18:02:52 -0000 On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:41:00 -0700 (PDT) orig injun wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > I am wondering if somebody can help me get X up and running on > > my Dell Inspiron 5000 Laptop. hello, most likely. it has been running just fine on mine for years now. > > After installing the OS and X, I generated XF86Config using > > XFree86 -configure. I am attaching the file below. When I > > run 'startx' with this configuration file in /etc/X11, the > > machine just hangs. > > > > The console shows: > > xauth: (argv):1: bad display name "machinename:0" in "list" > > command > > > > xauth: (stdin):2: bad display name "machinename:0" in "add" > > command i haven't bumped into either of these errors before, but whenever i'm in doubt, i google. did you? http://www.google.ca/search?q=xauth:+(argv):1:+bad+display+name&sourceid=opera&num=30&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 just from a cursory glance at the hits, methinks your 'hostname' might be the issue. > > followed by XFree86 and FreeBSD version information > > before it freezes. Nothing gets written to XFree86.0.log > > > > I am running FreeBSD 5.2.1 Release #0 as downloaded from > > freebsd.org. The XFree86 version that comes with this is > > 4.3.0 released on 27 February 2003. The machine itself is > > a 500Mhz PIII laptop with 256MB or RAM. Is X supposed to > > work with this configuration. If so, could somebody tell > > me what I am doing wrong or send me a good XF86Config > > file. > > > > My only alternative would be to try Linux (Fedora 2 or > > Gentoo) but I would much prefer to stick with FreeBSD > > if I can. well, you most certainly can go that route, if you prefer not to research the problem. however, keep in mind that X is X, regardless of the platform upon which you decide to plop it. in other words, good luck with that solution. at any rate, i hope that this gets you moving in the right direction. cheers, epi p.s. there are much newer versions of XFree and Xorg. both are shipped with an autoconfigure tool. is there any reason you've decided not to run those? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 18:13:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37C2816A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 18:13:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF41E43D39 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 18:13:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from adnichols@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so584347wri for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:13:13 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=kM53/2VEauE+FTxYF/kYu9AN368dnCHsN31uftTv1sH9S5dtJBCc90owImHLUjrJGY+kYLsm2aOwcyEbgKV0i+LJQbUmrZ+l5LX3VXJTD+6McfFY1UGdLuzuEBglqiR3ptMeiVLqyRuQjHJFnIazdNp87yviuyI4vTUwEX/56Fw= Received: by 10.54.35.64 with SMTP id i64mr104266wri; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:13:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.35.52 with HTTP; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:13:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:13:13 -0700 From: Aaron Nichols To: questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Problems with NAT on gif interface for VPN (long post) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Aaron Nichols List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 18:13:16 -0000 All, I'm having a problem getting nat to work on a gif interface. My goal here is to have a FreeBSD host (which is the gateway for a home network) connect to a VPN using a "client vpn" setup and masquerade (nat) the network behind the FreeBSD host using a single IP provided by the corporate VPN server. At this point I have racoon/ipfw/natd working to the point that I can pass traffic over the VPN from the FreeBSD host itself just fine. However, if I send traffic from a client on the LAN, it goes all the way across the VPN, I see the destination host send a response and I see the incoming ESP packet on the FreeBSD hosts wan interface, but I never see the packet sent out the LAN and I'm having trouble tracking where it is being dropped. If I perform a packet capture on gif0, I see neither the outgoing or incoming traffic, which seems incorrect to me since I do know the traffic is going out and is coming back when I initiate it from the FreeBSD host itself. I have started two natd processes bound to two different ports for divert use on each interface, they are shown below. Anyways, here are the details: Host A (FreeBSD) LAN: 192.168.1.1/24 WAN: a.b.c.d (dynamic IP from cable provider) Host B (VPN server) LAN: 10.1.8.12/24 (larger /8 behind this) WAN: w.x.y.z VPN client IP is 10.1.13.100 --- setkey -DP: w.x.y.z[any] a.b.c.d[any] ip4 in ipsec esp/tunnel/w.x.y.z-a.b.c.d/require spid=67 seq=3 pid=94282 refcnt=1 10.0.0.0/8[any] 10.1.13.100[any] any in ipsec esp/tunnel/w.x.y.z-a.b.c.d/require spid=69 seq=2 pid=94282 refcnt=1 a.b.c.d[any] w.x.y.z[any] ip4 out ipsec esp/tunnel/a.b.c.d-w.x.y.z/require spid=66 seq=1 pid=94282 refcnt=1 10.1.13.100[any] 10.0.0.0/8[any] any out ipsec esp/tunnel/a.b.c.d-w.x.y.z/require spid=68 seq=0 pid=94282 refcnt=1 --- Relevant routing entries Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire 10 10.1.8.12 UGSc 1 9098 gif0 10.1.8.12 10.1.13.100 UH 1 0 gif0 --- ifconfig: xl0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet6 fe80::260:8ff:fea5:d095%xl0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 inet a.b.c.d netmask 0xfffffe00 broadcast 255.255.255.255 ether 00:60:08:a5:d0:95 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active vr0: flags=8943 mtu 1500 inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 inet6 fe80::250:8dff:fe5d:c6d%vr0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 inet 192.168.1.2 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 192.168.1.2 ether 00:50:8d:5d:0c:6d media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active gif0: flags=28151 mtu 1280 tunnel inet a.b.c.d --> w.x.y.z inet6 fe80::260:8ff:fea5:d095%gif0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x8 inet 10.1.13.100 --> 10.1.8.12 netmask 0xffffffff --- natd processes (latter is setup for debugging): /sbin/natd -dynamic -use_sockets -unregistered_only -n xl0 /sbin/natd -v -l -n gif0 -log_denied -p 8669 --- ipfw show (Yes, this set isn't that clean - it's been hacked up while trying to figure out this issue - please forgive any redundancies or ineficiencies you see unless they may impact this problem) 00100 1458262 852524563 divert 8668 ip from any to any via xl0 00200 3436 370488 divert 8669 ip from any to any via gif0 00300 0 0 check-state 00400 890895 403006370 allow ip from any to any keep-state out xmit xl0 00500 0 0 allow ip from any to any keep-state via gif0 00600 4 432 allow esp from any to any 00700 0 0 allow udp from any to me 500 in 00800 2770 5371008 allow ip from any to any via lo0 00900 1364895 918328465 allow ip from any to any keep-state via vr0 01000 6699 1015786 allow tcp from any to any 22 keep-state in 01100 44273 13145900 allow tcp from any to any 25 keep-state in 01200 3361 1924613 allow tcp from any to any 80 keep-state in 01300 392 26364 allow icmp from any to any 01400 55996 18161747 deny log ip from any to any 65535 104 11992 deny ip from any to any -- So, at this point when I send traffic from a machine on the LAN, I can confirm the following: NAT seems to work based on the debug output of natd: Out [ICMP] [ICMP] 192.168.1.101 -> 10.1.2.115 8(0) aliased to [ICMP] 10.1.13.100 -> 10.1.2.115 8(0) I see the icmp packet reach the other side of the VPN via tcpdump, and I see an icmp echo response sent back. If I sniff my xl0 interface while doing this I see the following: 11:03:34.093263 a.b.c.d > w.x.y.z: ESP(spi=0xa9c55011,seq=0x5) 11:03:34.128605 w.x.y.z > a.b.c.d.167: ESP(spi=0x0dcf2aab,seq=0x5) These packets correspond w/ the ICMP request/response I see on the other side of the VPN so I assume that 2nd ESP packet is the ping response. My problem is that I never see any icmp on gif0 (neither the ping request or response) and I never see the icmp response on vr0. Obviously the machine on the LAN never recieves it either. Questions: 1) Why would I not be seeing all traffic over the VPN on gif0? It doesn't seem likely that it's going via another interface because the source of traffic is correct and NAT seems to be working outbound, so I think I should see it. 2) Are there problems with my configuration which anyone can identify as preventing only the response traffic back into this network? If you need additional info I'm happy to provide it - but I thought this was a good (and definitely long enough) starting point. If there is another list better suited to answering this questions let me know. Thanks in advance, Aaron From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 18:15:04 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2685516A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 18:15:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp21.singnet.com.sg (smtp21.singnet.com.sg [165.21.101.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0326543D45 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 18:15:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from spades@galaxynet.org) Received: from astral (bb219-74-176-135.singnet.com.sg [219.74.176.135]) by smtp21.singnet.com.sg (8.13.1/8.13.1) with SMTP id i9RIF0Mo010053 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 02:15:01 +0800 Message-ID: <0b8101c4bc50$e5653fc0$0300a8c0@astral> From: "Spades" To: Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 02:15:09 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: MRTG monitoring specific ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Spades List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 18:15:04 -0000 Hi, Is there anyway for us to trace the server bandwidth based on specific ports on a MRTG graph? Such as smtp bandwidth? port 25 pop3 bandwidth? port 110 web bandwidth? port 80 dns bandwidth? port 53 Is there any program or can MRTG do, please advise, thanks. -- Spades From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 18:16:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C825116A4CF for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 18:16:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from usw2.natel.net (2b.bz [209.152.117.190]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2B7A043D3F for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 18:16:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from WD@US-Webmasters.com) Received: (qmail 43977 invoked from network); 27 Oct 2004 18:16:32 -0000 Received: from batv-01-037.dialup.netins.net (HELO xyz.US-Webmasters.com) (216.248.109.38) by us-webmasters.com with SMTP; 27 Oct 2004 18:16:32 -0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20041027130605.04a0d090@209.152.117.178> X-Sender: wd@209.152.117.178 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:15:20 -0600 To: "Jaime Moss" From: "W. D." In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Sorry X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 18:16:35 -0000 At 04:18 10/27/2004, Jaime Moss wrote: >I am looking at non Microsoft platforms for a mail server. > >Does FreeBSD have one in it ? Yes. I use qmail--it's very good with high volume. > >I will also be looking at Linux. > >What is the differnce between FreeBSD and Linux? They are both good operating systems. Many people prefer FreeBSD because of the ease of installing and maintaining software via the 'Ports' system. More in depth explantions via links are on my FreeBSD Install page: http://www.US-Webmasters.com/FreeBSD/Install/ Also on that page is a link to Mail-Archive.com where you can search the FreeBSD archives: http://www.Mail-Archive.com/freebsd-questions@freebsd.org/ Welcome to FreeBSD--no reason to be sorry! ;^) > >Kind regards > >Jaime Moss >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to= "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Start Here to Find It Fast!=99 ->= http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ $8.77 Domain Names -> http://domains.us-webmasters.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 18:22:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E74BB16A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 18:22:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (creme-brulee.marcuscom.com [24.172.16.118]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 870FE43D31 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 18:22:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Received: from [10.2.1.2] (vpn-client-2.marcuscom.com [10.2.1.2]) i9RIK9CU029814; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 14:20:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Message-ID: <417FE777.6080708@marcuscom.com> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 14:22:47 -0400 From: Joe Marcus Clarke Organization: MarcusCom, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Macintosh/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Spades References: <0b8101c4bc50$e5653fc0$0300a8c0@astral> In-Reply-To: <0b8101c4bc50$e5653fc0$0300a8c0@astral> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on creme-brulee.marcuscom.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MRTG monitoring specific ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 18:22:46 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Spades wrote: | Hi, | | Is there anyway for us to trace the server bandwidth based on | specific ports on a MRTG graph? | | Such as smtp bandwidth? port 25 | pop3 bandwidth? port 110 | web bandwidth? port 80 | dns bandwidth? port 53 | | Is there any program or can MRTG do, please advise, thanks. I use net/ntop of this. Ntop can also output Netflow data or RRDTool data, and has some built-in MRTG-like graphs. All-in-all, it's a great tool for traffic analysis. Joe | | -- | Spades | | _______________________________________________ | freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list | http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions | To unsubscribe, send any mail to | "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" | - -- PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFBf+d3b2iPiv4Uz4cRAlCgAJ97OPJrVR3j3y9RzPjOuEHgOY3nlwCfUJRL uItqATmFzZdpeWmoWS33oKA= =iv3w -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 18:52:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50E8216A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 18:52:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gldis.ca (constans.gldis.ca [66.11.169.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E085943D3F for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 18:52:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gldisater@gldis.ca) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gldis.ca (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i9RIwJ20070728; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 14:58:20 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gldisater@gldis.ca) From: Jeremy Faulkner To: Mini Me In-Reply-To: References: <1098860404.3270.3.camel@ocean-deep.gldis.ca> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-aruniOe0jEASxLqznJzS" Message-Id: <1098888936.3270.9.camel@ocean-deep.gldis.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 14:55:36 +0000 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.80rc4/524/Sun Oct 10 11:36:08 2004 clamav-milter version 0.80j on constans.gldis.ca X-Virus-Status: Clean cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.10 -> 5.2.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 18:52:12 -0000 --=-aruniOe0jEASxLqznJzS Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 2004-10-27 at 12:42, Mini Me wrote: > like http://home.nyc.rr.com/computertaijutsu/FreeBSD53.html ? >=20 That describes the basic update procedure to build from source. Not specifically to update 4.10 -> 5.x Your best hope to do the update remotely is: http://www.daemonology.net/depenguinator/ --=20 Jeremy Faulkner --=-aruniOe0jEASxLqznJzS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBf7bofb0Lle2MIEIRAph5AJ98f5pi3dGRVabJ2IIhQovt3VWtuwCfcM6b 49QF1fzIeX09uufTYhhnfL4= =3EhX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-aruniOe0jEASxLqznJzS-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 19:16:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E6BB16A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 19:16:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from xizor.is.scarlet.be (xizor.is.scarlet.be [193.74.71.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D0CE43D48 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 19:16:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsdbeni@spymac.com) Received: from (u195-95-32-196.adsl.scarlet.be [195.95.32.196]) by xizor.is.scarlet.be with ESMTP id i9RJGQ519241 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 21:16:27 +0200 From: FreeBsdBeni To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 21:16:18 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1464088.tnp2ehWyE2"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200410272116.21485.freebsdbeni@spymac.com> Subject: pf moved to the base system, please build it from there X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 19:16:33 -0000 --nextPart1464088.tnp2ehWyE2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hi, I've upgraded from 5.2.1 to 5.3-release and I had to rebuild quite some por= ts.=20 So far all went ok (I think...). But then I came on pf. And when I tried to= =20 "make reinstall", it gave me just a "pf moved to the base system, please=20 build it from there" message. I launched sysinstall but I didn't find=20 anything relating to pf. How do I (re)build pf from the base system ? In my kernel I've added the devices pf, pflog and pfsync.=20 Thanks for the help ! =2D-=20 =46reeBsdBeni. --nextPart1464088.tnp2ehWyE2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBf/QF98oeEzEDrEcRAmk/AJ97Nlfnz8y9ZFF4d9KrdvPSDY46BQCfXSY3 YiB5TphDvIZC0D7NxWjsXbk= =qIzy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1464088.tnp2ehWyE2-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 19:22:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30C8F16A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 19:22:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 40E6F43D55 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 19:22:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Emanuel.Strobl@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 18873 invoked by uid 65534); 27 Oct 2004 19:22:13 -0000 Received: from flb.schmalzbauer.de (EHLO cale.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de) (62.245.232.135) by mail.gmx.net (mp026) with SMTP; 27 Oct 2004 21:22:13 +0200 X-Authenticated: #301138 From: Emanuel Strobl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 21:22:06 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <417E1FDE.3050407@dsl.pipex.com> <417E7050.4070208@dsl.pipex.com> <417E78DA.2000703@dsl.pipex.com> In-Reply-To: <417E78DA.2000703@dsl.pipex.com> X-OS: FreeBSD X-Birthday: 10/06/72 X-Address: Munich, 80686 X-Tel: +49 89 18947781 X-CelPhone: +49 173 9967781 X-Country: Germany MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart5159897.lrncuT9l5U"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200410272122.12337.Emanuel.Strobl@gmx.net> cc: Mark Cullen Subject: Re: Serial console weirdness X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 19:22:19 -0000 --nextPart5159897.lrncuT9l5U Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Am Dienstag, 26. Oktober 2004 18:18 schrieb Mark Cullen: > Mark Cullen wrote: > > Artem Kazakov wrote: > >>Mark Cullen wrote: > >>>Ok, I am having a bit of trouble setting up a serial console login. The > >>>cable is attached to com1, heres my /etc/ttys > >>> > >>># The 'dialup' keyword identifies dialin lines to login, fingerd etc. > >>>ttyd0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.115200" dialup on secure > >>> > >>> > >>>Now, my problem is that when I do a kill -HUP 1 nothing happens; Well,= I > >>>am sure something happens, it certainly doesn't start getty on that > >>>serial port though! However(!) when I start getty manually on that por= t: > >>> > >>>/usr/libexec/getty std.9600 ttyd0 > >>> > >>>It promptly goes into the background and on my other machine I get the > >>>login prompt and all is well (until I logout as getty isn't being > >>>respawned). I didn't see anything logged as to why it's not working. > >>> > >>>I will mention that I yanked the (very very broken) graphics card out = of > >>>that machine, so there's no ttyv's. Do I need to make the serial conso= le > >>>my ... console/display for getty to start working again perhaps? > >>> > >>>Any help would be much appreciated. > >> > >>probably you need to change dialup with something (like vt100) sutable > >>your enviroment > > > > I have tried cons25, xterm and (now) vt100. It's not that... > > > > # Serial terminals > > # The 'dialup' keyword identifies dialin lines to login, fingerd etc. > > ttyd0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.115200" cons25 on secure > > ttyd1 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" dialup off secure > > ttyd2 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" dialup off secure > > ttyd3 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" dialup off secure > > # Dumb console > > dcons "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" vt100 off secure > > # Pseudo terminals > > ttyp0 none network > > /etc/ttys: 307 lines, 7539 characters > > (root|bone)/home/mrboo# kill -HUP 1 > > (root|bone)/home/mrboo# ps ax | grep getty > > 21134 p0 R+ 0:00.02 grep getty > > (root|bone)/home/mrboo# > > > > Note: I have no getty processes as there's no graphics card, so I am > > guessing if it was working right I would start to see a: > > > > /usr/libexec/getty std.115200 ttyd0 > > > > It appears in the process list (and works) when I run the above manuall= y! > > I'll reply to myself here. > > I just now created /boot.config with -h, rebooted, and all is well. With > the added bonus of it being a serial console at the boot loader part. I > am impressed :) > > Can't seem to get it to work with anything other than 9600 (even though > the process list shows std.115200), but it gives me some sort of of > display to work with during the boot process atleast :) You can use the sysctl machdep.conspeed to change the console speed. But it= 's=20 not a loader tunable, for boot-speed you need to remake all=20 in /usr/src/sys/boot after you set "BOOT_COMCONSOLE_SPEED=3D 115200"=20 in /etc/make.conf. I had a self-answering thread started in -current a view weeks ago, see=20 http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=3D2026740+0+archive/2004/freeb= sd-current/20041017.freebsd-current =2DHarry --nextPart5159897.lrncuT9l5U Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBf/VkBylq0S4AzzwRAraPAKCHTV0a21FgK59d4YzUKP/vbKW0FgCfcfXV lcH7rowHTk8yaSJN7QfHRB4= =SEDl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart5159897.lrncuT9l5U-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 20:11:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5B0B16A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 20:11:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9836243D31 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 20:11:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) i9RKB1U9046781 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 27 Oct 2004 21:11:01 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)i9RKB1V8046780; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 21:11:01 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 21:11:00 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: FreeBsdBeni Message-ID: <20041027201100.GA40801@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , FreeBsdBeni , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200410272116.21485.freebsdbeni@spymac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200410272116.21485.freebsdbeni@spymac.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.5.6 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Wed, 27 Oct 2004 21:11:01 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040904, clamav-milter version 0.75l on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pf moved to the base system, please build it from there X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 20:11:07 -0000 --XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Oct 27, 2004 at 09:16:18PM +0200, FreeBsdBeni wrote: > Hi, >=20 > I've upgraded from 5.2.1 to 5.3-release and I had to rebuild quite some p= orts.=20 > So far all went ok (I think...). But then I came on pf. And when I tried = to=20 > "make reinstall", it gave me just a "pf moved to the base system, please= =20 > build it from there" message. I launched sysinstall but I didn't find=20 > anything relating to pf. How do I (re)build pf from the base system ? > In my kernel I've added the devices pf, pflog and pfsync.=20 > Thanks for the help ! Either you load the pf related modules into the kernel you're running at the moment[1], or you build a custom kernel with all of the pf stuff compiled into it. Cheers, Matthew [1] This may well happen automatically if you try and configure a pf firewall ruleset. You'll have to read the manual and/or try it. --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBgADUiD657aJF7eIRAqiGAJsFHWKozFhuODmV58U3BdczSegB4gCfQUWm KDXgxVY+fpJr5p23/kqWfBU= =oJSV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 20:31:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EDD616A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 20:31:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web53407.mail.yahoo.com (web53407.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.37.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CFC3343D2D for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 20:31:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from originjun@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20041027203115.82230.qmail@web53407.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [64.81.67.52] by web53407.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:31:15 PDT Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:31:15 -0700 (PDT) From: orig injun To: epilogue In-Reply-To: <20041027140238.7e3a68bb@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: originjun@yahoo.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.2.1 / XFree86 4.3 .0 on Dell Inspiron 5000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 20:31:16 -0000 Hello Epi, Thanks for your kind reply. Some comments inline : --- epilogue wrote: > On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:41:00 -0700 (PDT) > orig injun wrote: > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > I am wondering if somebody can help me get X up and running on > > > my Dell Inspiron 5000 Laptop. > > hello, > > most likely. it has been running just fine on mine for years now. That's good to know. Could you mail me your XF86Config file. Even if versions of X vary, I can use it as a guide for my config. Just as an FYI, I had RH Linux 6.2 running on this box before and the version of X that shipped with it worked fine for 4 years. > > > > After installing the OS and X, I generated XF86Config using > > > XFree86 -configure. I am attaching the file below. When I > > > run 'startx' with this configuration file in /etc/X11, the > > > machine just hangs. > > > > > > The console shows: > > > xauth: (argv):1: bad display name "machinename:0" in "list" > > > command > > > > > > xauth: (stdin):2: bad display name "machinename:0" in "add" > > > command > > i haven't bumped into either of these errors before, but whenever i'm > in > doubt, i google. did you? > > http://www.google.ca/search?q=xauth:+(argv):1:+bad+display+name&sourceid=opera&num=30&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 > > just from a cursory glance at the hits, methinks your 'hostname' > might > be the issue. Yes, I saw posts which indicated that. I obscured the hostname in my mail, but as best I can see, the host and domain names are set correctly on the machine. So I am a bit surprised that X doesn't pick it up. It turns out that X wants to look for a hostname in /etc/hosts and I added the name there. The xauth logs disappear but the machine still hangs exactly the same way as before. > > > > followed by XFree86 and FreeBSD version information > > > before it freezes. Nothing gets written to XFree86.0.log > > > > > > I am running FreeBSD 5.2.1 Release #0 as downloaded from > > > freebsd.org. The XFree86 version that comes with this is > > > 4.3.0 released on 27 February 2003. The machine itself is > > > a 500Mhz PIII laptop with 256MB or RAM. Is X supposed to > > > work with this configuration. If so, could somebody tell > > > me what I am doing wrong or send me a good XF86Config > > > file. > > > > > > My only alternative would be to try Linux (Fedora 2 or > > > Gentoo) but I would much prefer to stick with FreeBSD > > > if I can. > > well, you most certainly can go that route, if you prefer not to > research the problem. however, keep in mind that X is X, regardless > of > the platform upon which you decide to plop it. in other words, good > luck with that solution. > > at any rate, i hope that this gets you moving in the right direction. > > > cheers, > epi > > p.s. there are much newer versions of XFree and Xorg. both are > shipped with an autoconfigure tool. is there any reason you've > decided not to run those? I was hoping to take the path of least resistance and use the out-of-the-box version. Using a more recent version of X is a good suggestion and I will look into it... Thanks again, Anouk. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 20:37:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C97316A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 20:37:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail5.speakeasy.net (mail5.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FE3C43D60 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 20:37:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 6704 invoked from network); 27 Oct 2004 20:37:31 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 27 Oct 2004 20:37:31 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 3CB2969; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 16:37:31 -0400 (EDT) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: jim.chapman@sympatico.ca References: <417FE31F.4090607@sympatico.ca> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 27 Oct 2004 16:37:30 -0400 In-Reply-To: <417FE31F.4090607@sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <44oeinkid1.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 17 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: BSD Questions Subject: Re: ATA Slave Devices X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 20:37:32 -0000 Jim Chapman writes: > I have 2 devices that will not work as slaves. They are a CD-RW drive > and an IDE tape drive. They both work fine as masters. They give a > message > > ATA identify retries exceeded > > during the boot. > > I have tried different combinations of masters and slaves and > different cables. The bios recognizes them as slaves. > > Has anyone else experienced this problem? If you set something up as a slave, make sure that there is a master on that bus. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 20:42:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B849B16A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 20:42:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from helium.webpack.hosteurope.de (helium.webpack.hosteurope.de [217.115.142.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2541743D2D for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 20:42:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from me@hexren.net) Received: from p50871e1b.dip.t-dialin.net ([80.135.30.27] helo=hexren) by helium.webpack.hosteurope.de with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CMuce-0003YF-4t for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 22:42:20 +0200 Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 22:42:19 +0200 From: Hexren X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62i) Business X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <7422774788.20041027224219@hexren.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-HE-MXrcvd: no Subject: Disk Problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Hexren List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 20:42:21 -0000 In which log file should I look to find disk error messages, and which variable controls the log level for this kind of Problems (if there is any) Background. I have FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE-p11 running and serving my windows client a few samba shares. (2 shares from 2 physicaly different disks to be exact) Now when I safe something from a Firefox session running on the Windows machine to samba share 1 my Firefox slows to a crawl. I suspect that the Disk share 1 is located on is faulty because I do not experience any strange behavior when saving to another disk (including share 2) I have cranked the Samaba Log variable up and got this error messages: --------------------------------------------------------- [2004/10/27 22:28:45, 3] smbd/error.c:error_packet(113) error packet at smbd/trans2.c(1721) cmd=50 (SMBtrans2) NT_STATUS_OBJECT_NAME_NOT_FOUND [2004/10/27 22:28:45, 3] smbd/error.c:error_packet(113) error packet at smbd/trans2.c(1042) cmd=50 (SMBtrans2) NT_STATUS_NO_SUCH_FILE --------------------------------------------------------- Thx for any help Hexren From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 20:45:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5758F16A4D0 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 20:45:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-01-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE06443D58 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 20:45:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jason@ec.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (cpe-065-184-172-100.ec.rr.com [65.184.172.100])i9RKjCKj019869; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 16:45:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <41800900.2030604@ec.rr.com> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 16:45:52 -0400 From: jason User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (X11/20040929) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dick Davies References: <20041027112324.GC15691@lb.tenfour> In-Reply-To: <20041027112324.GC15691@lb.tenfour> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: 5.3 external ehci dvd drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 20:45:26 -0000 Dick Davies wrote: >Just got a new usb 2 enclosure and swapped out my internal cd/dvd drive to >it. I can mount it fine on 5.3 as cd(4) over umass(4) but it's too slow to >play DVDs over. > >Has anyone got this working, and is there a step I've missed? >The 1Mb/s speed line looks worrying, though usbdevs does show it hanging off >echi > >cd0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 >cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device >cd0: 1.000MB/s transfers > >? > > > I just saw on the list where FreeBSD does not have full usb2 support in the drivers yet. The currents drivers will allow operation, but not at the new speeds. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 20:50:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B266716A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 20:50:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5622043D1D for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 20:50:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from TM4525@aol.com) Received: from TM4525@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id o.77.36f8bfb6 (3972); Wed, 27 Oct 2004 16:50:51 -0400 (EDT) From: TM4525@aol.com Message-ID: <77.36f8bfb6.2eb1642b@aol.com> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 16:50:51 EDT To: me.at.lists@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5114 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.10 -> 5.2.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 20:50:58 -0000 In a message dated 10/27/04 6:49:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time, me.at.lists@gmail.com writes: Where can i find a step by step upgrade method (from FreeBSD 4.10 to 5.2.1)? Sorry if I seem lazy, but is somehow urgent (because a Plesk interface must be installed). Please post any link you think might be useful. Why would you want to do that? Its like going from a Mercedes to an Pinto. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 20:54:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4262E16A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 20:54:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from merke.itea.ntnu.no (merke.itea.ntnu.no [129.241.7.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0249343D49 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 20:54:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from svein-freebsd-questions@theloosingend.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by merke.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6E6113C62A for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 22:54:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mirrorball.thelosingend.net (m069c.studby.ntnu.no [129.241.130.69]) by merke.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 22:54:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 49811 invoked from network); 27 Oct 2004 20:54:28 -0000 Received: from m190d.studby.ntnu.no (129.241.131.190) by m069c.studby.ntnu.no with QMQP; 27 Oct 2004 20:54:28 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 27 Oct 2004 20:54:10 -0000 Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 22:54:10 +0200 (CEST) From: Svein Halvor Halvorsen X-X-Sender: sveinhal@maren.thelosingend.net To: TM4525@aol.com In-Reply-To: <77.36f8bfb6.2eb1642b@aol.com> Message-ID: <20041027225225.O23489@maren.thelosingend.net> References: <77.36f8bfb6.2eb1642b@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Content-Scanned: with sophos and spamassassin at mailgw.ntnu.no. cc: me.at.lists@gmail.com cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.10 -> 5.2.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 20:54:30 -0000 [TM4525@aol.com, 2004-10-27] > In a message dated 10/27/04 6:49:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > me.at.lists@gmail.com writes: > Where can i find a step by step upgrade method (from FreeBSD 4.10 to 5.2.1)? > Sorry if I seem lazy, but is somehow urgent (because a Plesk interface > must be installed). > Please post any link you think might be useful. > > Why would you want to do that? Its like going from a Mercedes to an Pinto. Would you please use any form of quoting character to prefix the qouted lines of your reply? Any style would suffice. It's very hard to read your emails without. Svein Halvor From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 21:07:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C77716A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 21:07:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-d22.mx.aol.com (imo-d22.mx.aol.com [205.188.144.208]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DD8843D1F for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 21:07:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from TM4525@aol.com) Received: from TM4525@aol.com by imo-d22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id n.1d8.2ec06bf4 (3972) for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 17:07:29 -0400 (EDT) From: TM4525@aol.com Message-ID: <1d8.2ec06bf4.2eb16811@aol.com> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 17:07:29 EDT To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5114 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Re: GPL vs BSD Licence X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 21:07:32 -0000 In a message dated 10/27/04 4:49:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time, tedm@toybox.placo.com writes: This is yet another example of the GPL license flaw. While any of the copyright holders of the Linux kernel could sue Allot, if they don't, it pretty much builds evidence that is going to help those that would argue that the GPL is uninforceable. There's been a couple of other GPL cases like this - of infringement that is being ignored. One of these days I'm going to have to gather up all these and write an article on it. ^------------- A problem with suing a company with a team of lawyers is that is will cost you a fortune, and what do you get? They have to agree not to sell it anymore? Its a pretty big project proving the validity of a license thats never really been seriously tested. You can't really claim damages if you have no intention of making money as a basic premise (and 3 times nothing is nothing). So they probably figure no one is going to do it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 21:08:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2513416A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 21:08:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dakota.bomar.us (mail.bomar.us [64.81.112.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED66043D39 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 21:08:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@bomar.us) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c-24-0-83-94.client.comcast.net [24.0.83.94]) by dakota.bomar.us (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F3065925 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 16:08:15 -0500 (CDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <4E678154-285C-11D9-8646-000A95CEE8B4@bomar.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: questions@freebsd.org From: Bob Bomar Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 16:08:10 -0500 X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.0.1 (v33, 10.3) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Subject: Need some ideas X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 21:08:16 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I am building a machine that connects to my stereo, to play mp3's, and does some other stuff. I am looking a way to add a keypad for fast forward/rewind/stop/play/pause/next/prev, etc. I tried hacking a keyboard, but I didnt get too far. The one serial port on the machine is taken, so it needs to be parallel or USB. Anybody have any ideas? - -- Bob Bomar bob@bomar.us http://bob.bomar.us - --------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve http://www.FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFBgA489Jm/aTrtdKoRAqqDAJ90rk5v6hScTVdR7NL99e25XfZ97gCfSKrK qxviaSNvN4KDaGrvNPfpND0= =UyJx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 21:38:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 503F716A4CF for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 21:38:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.mi.is (smtp.mi.is [217.151.180.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92CEB43D2D for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 21:38:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from thib@mi.is) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (thib.pentagon.ms [217.151.165.254]) by smtp.mi.is (8.12.10/8.12.10/1.0.1) with ESMTP id i9RLcpnF004394 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 21:38:51 GMT Message-ID: <412FAA46.70105@mi.is> From: "Thordur I." User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Software or hardware RAID1. (gstripe) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 21:38:58 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 21:40:22 +0000 X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 21:38:58 -0000 I´m currently trying to decide upon a sultion on how to go about keepin my data safe. Now, a RAID1 setup sounds good in this position. But I can´t seem to find an answer to one question. Let´s say that I have 2x 120Gb (ad1 and ad2) disk. I stripe them wich should give something like /dev/stripe/foo (either with gstripe or a hardware raid controler.) Now I fill this striped volume with data, and ad1 dies. What happen´s ? Does gstripe alert my that ad1 has died and will I still be able to access /dev/stripe/foo ? And when I shut the box down, remove ad1 and insert another (identical disk) to restore the stripe, what then ? (assume the same bus ofcourse) I have tryed to google this up but to no avail. Any help is well appriceated. With kind regards, Thordur I. PS: CC my for I´m not on the list. (Btw, do list members consider this a bother for if so I would just subscripe to the list (currently though I´m supscried to what I think are to many lists :)) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 21:54:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14F9D16A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 21:54:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-m20.mx.aol.com (imo-m20.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD35E43D2F for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 21:54:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from TM4525@aol.com) Received: from TM4525@aol.com by imo-m20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id n.19a.2b4dcacb (3972) for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 17:54:43 -0400 (EDT) From: TM4525@aol.com Message-ID: <19a.2b4dcacb.2eb17323@aol.com> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 17:54:43 EDT To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5114 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Re: 4.10 -> 5.2.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 21:54:47 -0000 In a message dated 10/27/04 4:55:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, svein-freebsd-questions@theloosingend.net writes: "Would you please use any form of quoting character to prefix the qouted lines of your reply? Any style would suffice. It's very hard to read your emails without." ----- Welcome to AOL my friend :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 21:58:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E511116A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 21:58:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from helium.webpack.hosteurope.de (helium.webpack.hosteurope.de [217.115.142.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACD2543D39 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 21:58:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from me@hexren.net) Received: from p50871e1b.dip.t-dialin.net ([80.135.30.27] helo=hexren) by helium.webpack.hosteurope.de with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CMvo1-0008WP-Th for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 23:58:10 +0200 Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 23:58:09 +0200 From: Hexren X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62i) Business X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <3627324881.20041027235809@hexren.net> To: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <19a.2b4dcacb.2eb17323@aol.com> References: <19a.2b4dcacb.2eb17323@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-HE-MXrcvd: no Subject: Re[2]: 4.10 -> 5.2.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Hexren List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 21:58:11 -0000 Tac> In a message dated 10/27/04 4:55:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Tac> svein-freebsd-questions@theloosingend.net writes: Tac> "Would you please use any form of quoting character to prefix the qouted Tac> lines of your reply? Any style would suffice. It's very hard to read your Tac> emails without." Tac> ----- Tac> Welcome to AOL my friend :) Tac> _______________________________________________ --------------------------------------------- Well please start using the Internet... ;) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 27 22:04:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E2FC16A4CE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 22:04:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D57E643D49 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 22:04:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mcintosh.james@comcast.net) Received: from c74914a (c-24-18-226-211.client.comcast.net[24.18.226.211]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <2004102722044501400057ake>; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 22:04:46 +0000 From: "Jim McIntosh" To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd" Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 15:04:43 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal Subject: Seeking help resolving an apparent device conflict X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 22:04:47 -0000 Thanks for considering my dilemma. I have installed 5.1 on old PC and am having trouble with the NIC. Although I was able with the help of a couple of 'set hint' statements at boot loader to use the NIC to use ftp for the installation, now the NIC is unavailable after re-booting. After having some time searching for and reading information about the process, I believe the problem resides in a device conflict, but I do not know how to resolve it. Most of what I read explains how to resolve such things before version 5.0 using 'userconfig' which is deprecated in 5.0. I understand the notion of hints but not exactly how to use them to resolve my conflict. In fact, I am not sure how to interpret the output from dmesg in order to pinpoint the actual problem. How do I determine what to ignore and what is important? I can see that the NIC is recognized early on. I also see some suspicious stuff about PNP devices later, but if they are the problem, I am not sure how to resolve them. I would appreciate some help in understanding how to go about problem solving this. Looking at the dmesg output, can you see the problem with the NIC? If so, how? What is a good resource for explaining this process? Thanks for you help. Here is my dmesg output: Copyright (c) 1992-2003 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE #0: Thu Jun 5 02:55:42 GMT 2003 root@wv1u.btc.adaptec.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC Preloaded elf kernel "/boot/kernel/kernel" at 0xc0689000. Calibrating clock(s) ... i8254 clock: 1193312 Hz CLK_USE_I8254_CALIBRATION not specified - using default frequency Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Calibrating TSC clock ... TSC clock: 200455409 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 200455409 Hz CPU: Pentium/P54C (200.46-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x52c Stepping = 12 Features=0x1bf real memory = 33554432 (32 MB) Physical memory chunk(s): 0x0000000000001000 - 0x000000000009efff, 647168 bytes (158 pages) 0x00000000006b0000 - 0x0000000001f49fff, 25796608 bytes (6298 pages) avail memory = 25726976 (24 MB) bios32: Found BIOS32 Service Directory header at 0xc00fae70 bios32: Entry = 0xfb2f0 (c00fb2f0) Rev = 0 Len = 1 pcibios: PCI BIOS entry at 0xf0000+0xb320 pnpbios: Found PnP BIOS data at 0xc00fc020 pnpbios: Entry = f0000:c048 Rev = 1.0 Other BIOS signatures found: Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug wlan: <802.11 Link Layer> null: random: mem: npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pci_open(1): mode 1 addr port (0x0cf8) is 0x8000005c pci_open(1a): mode1res=0x80000000 (0x80000000) pci_cfgcheck: device 0 [class=060000] [hdr=00] is there (id=12508086) pcibios: BIOS version 2.10 pcib0: at pcibus 0 on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pci0: physical bus=0 found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x1250, revid=0x03 bus=0, slot=0, func=0 class=06-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 cmdreg=0x0006, statreg=0x2200, cachelnsz=0 (dwords) lattimer=0x20 (960 ns), mingnt=0x00 (0 ns), maxlat=0x00 (0 ns) found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x7000, revid=0x01 bus=0, slot=7, func=0 class=06-01-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=1 cmdreg=0x000f, statreg=0x0280, cachelnsz=0 (dwords) lattimer=0x00 (0 ns), mingnt=0x00 (0 ns), maxlat=0x00 (0 ns) map[20]: type 4, range 32, base 0000f000, size 4, enabled found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x7010, revid=0x00 bus=0, slot=7, func=1 class=01-01-80, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 cmdreg=0x0005, statreg=0x0280, cachelnsz=0 (dwords) lattimer=0x20 (960 ns), mingnt=0x00 (0 ns), maxlat=0x00 (0 ns) map[10]: type 4, range 32, base 00006000, size 7, enabled map[14]: type 1, range 32, base e4000000, size 7, enabled found-> vendor=0x10b7, dev=0x7646, revid=0x30 bus=0, slot=9, func=0 class=02-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 cmdreg=0x0007, statreg=0x0210, cachelnsz=8 (dwords) lattimer=0x20 (960 ns), mingnt=0x0a (2500 ns), maxlat=0x0a (2500 ns) intpin=a, irq=11 powerspec 1 supports D0 D1 D2 D3 current D0 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base e0000000, size 26, enabled found-> vendor=0x5333, dev=0x8811, revid=0x54 bus=0, slot=10, func=0 class=03-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 cmdreg=0x0003, statreg=0x0200, cachelnsz=0 (dwords) lattimer=0x00 (0 ns), mingnt=0x00 (0 ns), maxlat=0x00 (0 ns) intpin=a, irq=10 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xf000-0xf00f at device 7.1 on pci0 ata0: pre reset mask=03 ostat0=50 ostat2=00 ata0-master: ATAPI 00 00 ata0-slave: ATAPI 00 00 ata0: after reset mask=03 stat0=50 stat1=00 ata0-master: ATA 01 a5 ata0: devices=01 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: pre reset mask=01 ostat0=50 ostat2=ff ata1-master: ATAPI 14 eb ata1: after reset mask=01 stat0=00 stat1=00 ata1: devices=04 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 xl0: <3Com 3cSOHO100-TX OfficeConnect> port 0x6000-0x607f mem 0xe4000000-0xe400007f irq 11 at device 9.0 on pci0 xl0: using memory mapped I/O xl0: Ethernet address: 00:50:da:17:f2:87 xl0: media options word: a xl0: found MII/AUTO miibus0: on xl0 xlphy0: <3Com internal media interface> on miibus0 xlphy0: xl0: bpf attached pci0: at device 10.0 (no driver attached) ata: ata0 already exists; skipping it ata: ata1 already exists; skipping it Trying Read_Port at 203 Trying Read_Port at 243 Trying Read_Port at 283 Trying Read_Port at 2c3 Trying Read_Port at 303 Trying Read_Port at 343 Trying Read_Port at 383 Trying Read_Port at 3c3 pnpbios: 14 devices, largest 90 bytes PNP0000: adding irq mask 0x4 PNP0000: adding io range 0x20-0x21, size=0x2, align=0 PNP0000: adding io range 0xa0-0xa1, size=0x2, align=0 pnpbios: handle 0 device ID PNP0000 (0000d041) PNP0200: adding dma mask 0x10 PNP0200: adding io range 0-0xf, size=0x10, align=0 PNP0200: adding io range 0x81-0x83, size=0x3, align=0 PNP0200: adding io range 0x87-0x87, size=0x1, align=0 PNP0200: adding io range 0x89-0x8b, size=0x3, align=0 PNP0200: adding io range 0x8f-0x91, size=0x3, align=0 PNP0200: adding io range 0xc0-0xdf, size=0x20, align=0 pnpbios: handle 1 device ID PNP0200 (0002d041) PNP0100: adding irq mask 0x1 PNP0100: adding io range 0x40-0x43, size=0x4, align=0 pnpbios: handle 2 device ID PNP0100 (0001d041) PNP0b00: adding irq mask 0x100 PNP0b00: adding io range 0x70-0x71, size=0x2, align=0 pnpbios: handle 3 device ID PNP0b00 (000bd041) PNP0303: adding irq mask 0x2 PNP0303: adding io range 0x60-0x60, size=0x1, align=0 PNP0303: adding io range 0x64-0x64, size=0x1, align=0 pnpbios: handle 4 device ID PNP0303 (0303d041) PNP0800: adding io range 0x61-0x61, size=0x1, align=0 pnpbios: handle 5 device ID PNP0800 (0008d041) PNP0c04: adding irq mask 0x2000 PNP0c04: adding io range 0xf0-0xff, size=0x10, align=0 pnpbios: handle 6 device ID PNP0c04 (040cd041) PNP0c01: adding fixed memory32 range 0xe0000-0xfffff, size=0x20000 PNP0c01: adding fixed memory32 range 0-0x9ffff, size=0xa0000 PNP0c01: adding fixed memory32 range 0xfff80000-0xffffffff, size=0x80000 PNP0c01: adding fixed memory32 range 0x100000-0x1ffffff, size=0x1f00000 PNP0c01: adding io range 0x3f3-0x3f3, size=0x1, align=0 PNP0c01: adding io range 0x4d0-0x4d1, size=0x2, align=0 PNP0c01: adding io range 0xcf8-0xcff, size=0x8, align=0 pnpbios: handle 7 device ID PNP0c01 (010cd041) pnpbios: handle 8 device ID PNP0a03 (030ad041) PNP0f13: adding irq mask 0x1000 pnpbios: handle 9 device ID PNP0f13 (130fd041) PNP0501: adding irq mask 0x10 PNP0501: adding io range 0x3f8-0x3ff, size=0x8, align=0 pnpbios: handle 10 device ID PNP0501 (0105d041) PNP0700: adding dma mask 0x4 PNP0700: adding io range 0x3f2-0x3f2, size=0x1, align=0 PNP0700: adding io range 0x3f4-0x3f5, size=0x2, align=0 PNP0700: adding irq mask 0x40 pnpbios: handle 11 device ID PNP0700 (0007d041) PNP0400: adding irq mask 0x80 PNP0400: adding io range 0x378-0x37f, size=0x8, align=0 pnpbios: handle 12 device ID PNP0400 (0004d041) PNP0501: adding irq mask 0x8 PNP0501: adding io range 0x2e8-0x2ef, size=0x8, align=0 pnpbios: handle 13 device ID PNP0501 (0105d041) ex_isa_identify() sc: sc0 already exists; skipping it vga: vga0 already exists; skipping it isa_probe_children: disabling PnP devices isa_probe_children: probing non-PnP devices orm0: ; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Processed: mail2.swebase.com, Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:35:05 +0200 (not processed: message from valid local sender) X-MDRemoteIP: 213.80.36.8 X-Return-Path: nocturnal@swehack.se X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: sendmail just wont work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 15:35:32 -0000 Hi I don't think i'll be lying when i say that i've setup close to a hundred FreeBSD servers(or 100 times) and the last one i setup was for a dedicated server customer but it has me stumped cuz sendmail just wont work on it, i used to get some localhost related errors in /var/log/maillog which i did not save. It did say something about Connection refused by localhost. In rc.conf i have sendmail set to NONE since it's not a smtp server, only a webserver and i have other webservers which have the sendmail option in rc.conf set to NONE but on them people can use the php mail function just fine. The issue is mainly that they want to use the mail() function in PHP but i've also tried just sending mails from the command line with sendmail and with the t argument but it never works. I don't know what else to say, if you need more info about the system then ask me. It's FreeBSD 4.10 and here are some config files. /etc/hosts ::1 localhost.polarfilm.com localhost 127.0.0.1 localhost.polarfilm.com localhost #213.80.36.150 web01.polarfilm.com web01 #213.80.36.150 web01.polarfilm.com. --------------------------------------------------------- /etc/rc.conf defaultrouter="secret" font8x14="iso15-8x14" font8x16="iso15-8x16" font8x8="iso15-8x8" hostname="web01" ifconfig_fxp0="inet secret netmask secret" inetd_enable="NO" kern_securelevel_enable="NO" keymap="swedish.cp850" nfs_reserved_port_only="YES" scrnmap="iso-8859-1_to_cp437" sendmail_enable="NONE" sshd_enable="YES" hostname="secret" usbd_enable="NO" moused_type="NO" moused_enable="NO" linux_enable="YES" --------------------------------------------------------- -- With kind regards Stefan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 28 15:44:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F5F916A4CE for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 15:44:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.tsgincorporated.com (smtp1.tsgincorporated.com [67.66.242.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0567343D41 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 15:44:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micheal@tsgincorporated.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.tsgincorporated.com [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1.tsgincorporated.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84DA93A73CE; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 10:44:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from smtp1.tsgincorporated.com ([127.0.0.1])port 10024) with ESMTP id 69849-05; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 10:44:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from smtp3.tsgincorporated.com (support.tsgincorporated.com [67.66.242.9]) by smtp1.tsgincorporated.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CEA73A73BF; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 10:44:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from micheal (micheal.tsgincorporated.com [67.66.242.77]) by smtp3.tsgincorporated.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 30CBD62896; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 10:44:22 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <086601c4bd04$ff014a50$4df24243@tsgincorporated.com> From: "Micheal Patterson" To: "nocturnal" , References: <418110EC.5060200@swehack.se> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 10:44:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at tsgincorporated.com Subject: Re: sendmail just wont work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 15:44:26 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "nocturnal" To: Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 10:31 AM Subject: sendmail just wont work > Hi > > I don't think i'll be lying when i say that i've setup close to a > hundred FreeBSD servers(or 100 times) and the last one i setup was for a > dedicated server customer but it has me stumped cuz sendmail just wont > work on it, i used to get some localhost related errors in > /var/log/maillog which i did not save. > It did say something about Connection refused by localhost. In rc.conf i > have sendmail set to NONE since it's not a smtp server, only a webserver > and i have other webservers which have the sendmail option in rc.conf > set to NONE but on them people can use the php mail function just fine. > The issue is mainly that they want to use the mail() function in PHP but > i've also tried just sending mails from the command line with sendmail > and with the t argument but it never works. > > I don't know what else to say, if you need more info about the system > then ask me. It's FreeBSD 4.10 and here are some config files. > > /etc/hosts > ::1 localhost.polarfilm.com localhost > 127.0.0.1 localhost.polarfilm.com localhost > #213.80.36.150 web01.polarfilm.com web01 > #213.80.36.150 web01.polarfilm.com. > > --------------------------------------------------------- > /etc/rc.conf > defaultrouter="secret" > font8x14="iso15-8x14" > font8x16="iso15-8x16" > font8x8="iso15-8x8" > hostname="web01" > ifconfig_fxp0="inet secret netmask secret" > inetd_enable="NO" > kern_securelevel_enable="NO" > keymap="swedish.cp850" > nfs_reserved_port_only="YES" > scrnmap="iso-8859-1_to_cp437" > sendmail_enable="NONE" > sshd_enable="YES" > hostname="secret" > usbd_enable="NO" > moused_type="NO" > moused_enable="NO" > linux_enable="YES" > --------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > > > With kind regards > > Stefan > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" In your /etc/hosts.allow file add "sendmail: 127.0.0.1 : allow" and see if it helps. -- Micheal Patterson Senior Communications Systems Engineer 405-917-0600 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 28 15:55:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B484F16A4CE for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 15:55:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DE2543D1F for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 15:55:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsdnews@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 64so498340wri for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 08:54:54 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=J2SpEzfvK8w4WNASBUb67BoU/JNm4ScNkTgkM9e25pKaWoTNdzntIuiN9e853k5CjY12LC2BJTIzXKNcqmWKLPjOqvYpICFo4kIKsLOzosaIzJTGa6CMK9lRjXjYesit3kiMnbTxPHAMjkD3BPpR5IWlNf+7gUC/tafZyFSN/sw= Received: by 10.54.26.24 with SMTP id 24mr132095wrz; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 08:54:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.26.36 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 08:54:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8292450b041028085470f39879@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 10:54:53 -0500 From: CHris Rich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <8292450b041028075868ad420@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <8292450b041028075868ad420@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Compiling with patches using the ports collectio X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: CHris Rich List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 15:55:30 -0000 See that was how I understood how it worked, but looking in the qmail-mysql directory on previous servers we've used, there isn't a files/patch directory. But what I did find is that in the regular qmail directory that does exist. So does the qmail-mysql port actually compile qmail and it's in THAT directory that I put it? On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 09:58:54 -0500, CHris Rich wrote: > I'm looking at adding some patches to our qmail installation. But am > having troubles finding out exactly how i make the port compile using > the patch I'm wanting to use. The port I'm using is qmail-mysql 1.03 > we have a patch that we use to compile with it, that replaces the > qmail-103.patch file. We also use qmailqueue patch. The patch we are > trying to put into effect checks a text file to see if an address is > valid before accepting the smtp connection. > > So how exactly do I make the new patch compile? Do I have to edit the > Makefile? or just put it somewhere and it works? > > Thanks in advance > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 28 16:03:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C66116A4CE for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:03:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65D9F43D49 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:03:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 617E653352; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 09:04:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 09:04:30 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: CHris Rich Message-ID: <20041028160430.GA55489@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <8292450b041028075868ad420@mail.gmail.com> <8292450b041028085470f39879@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="WIyZ46R2i8wDzkSu" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8292450b041028085470f39879@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Compiling with patches using the ports collectio X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:03:21 -0000 --WIyZ46R2i8wDzkSu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, Oct 28, 2004 at 10:54:53AM -0500, CHris Rich wrote: > See that was how I understood how it worked, but looking in the > qmail-mysql directory on previous servers we've used, there isn't a > files/patch directory. But what I did find is that in the regular > qmail directory that does exist. So does the qmail-mysql port actually > compile qmail and it's in THAT directory that I put it? Yes, looks like it uses mail/qmail/files/ instead. Kris --WIyZ46R2i8wDzkSu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBgRiNWry0BWjoQKURAiznAJkBOhwU+wrUlfwNzLPGI3cRktWqpgCfXTPG qgVtn2CnJVZ+P1r2vlYQD0Y= =Dn8n -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --WIyZ46R2i8wDzkSu-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 28 16:07:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFE3316A4CE for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:07:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web51801.mail.yahoo.com (web51801.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7779F43D49 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:07:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from patrick_dkt@yahoo.com.hk) Message-ID: <20041028160736.12923.qmail@web51801.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [61.10.7.82] by web51801.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 00:07:36 CST Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 00:07:36 +0800 (CST) From: Patrick Dung To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20041028073824.84192.qmail@web51805.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Resired features/wish list for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:07:38 -0000 Hi First of all, I know that most commiters or contributors contribute their work in their free time. I am not asking for any promise but I just want to discuss possible improvement for FreeBSD. OK, after using FreeBSD for some time, I would like to see FreeBSD have these features/improvements: 1) OpenLDAP Integration FreeBSD has OpenLDAP support in the ports, but I think it would be great if FreeBSD support LDAP out of the box (just like Solaris and most Linux distro) There are areas to improve: - nsswitch (it's in the ports) But it only support passwd and group now. - naming cache daemon (nscd) Without this one, the workstation will query the LDAP server everytime with just very simple command like ls. A lookupd is in the ports but it would be great if it is integrated and/or improved. 2) A stable software raid implementation To my knowledge, vinum is not very stable in 5.x. 3) Java improvement It seems that the development has been stopped after JDK 1.3.1/1.4.2 for a long time. Java performance in FreeBSD is not very good. 4) Some nice ports are broken in 5.x Like tripwire 2.3.1.2_3 Regards Patrick _________________________________________________________ Ą˛±ţ§ŢˇB¶ĽşqˇB¤p¬P¬P... ®öş©ąaÁn ±ˇ¤ßłsĂ´ http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=22281/*http://ringtone.yahoo.com.hk/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 28 16:27:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6303C16A4CE for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:27:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CB7043D1D for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:27:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsdnews@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so475609wri for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 09:27:48 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=lOd83tLADXN1Flepv+NlKmp3ngU97+sQIf921Lnxp8+NvPSP9MRKuAD+bp8Fx1bMDv3T6fA8+GyNaF2r8/UtSyW8LDZKT17xNR8thZQy5I/qUrWhhUEcGy3Vr1FbFs0hg+cgzvjnnb6SG0/+a+1PTg2yQKXqqGgzlpYsj2Ky5CY= Received: by 10.54.30.19 with SMTP id d19mr133141wrd; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 09:27:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.26.36 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 09:27:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8292450b04102809274e221d25@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 11:27:48 -0500 From: CHris Rich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <8292450b041028075868ad420@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <8292450b041028075868ad420@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Compiling with patches using the ports collectio X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: CHris Rich List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:27:52 -0000 One more question....(hopefully) Has anyone had any experience with compiling the following patch with the qmail-mysql port? the patch is called validrcptto and the website is: http://www3.sympatico.ca/humungusfungus/code/validrcptto.html. There is another patch we have looked at called badrcptto which the site is http://patch.be/qmail/badrcptto.html. Basically I'm just curious if anyone has had any experience with them and how those experiences went. Thanks and thanks for the quick replies as well On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 09:58:54 -0500, CHris Rich wrote: > I'm looking at adding some patches to our qmail installation. But am > having troubles finding out exactly how i make the port compile using > the patch I'm wanting to use. The port I'm using is qmail-mysql 1.03 > we have a patch that we use to compile with it, that replaces the > qmail-103.patch file. We also use qmailqueue patch. The patch we are > trying to put into effect checks a text file to see if an address is > valid before accepting the smtp connection. > > So how exactly do I make the new patch compile? Do I have to edit the > Makefile? or just put it somewhere and it works? > > Thanks in advance > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 28 16:28:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DB9516A4CE for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:28:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-m24.mx.aol.com (imo-m24.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29D4843D49 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:28:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from TM4525@aol.com) Received: from TM4525@aol.com by imo-m24.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id i.b7.495480e9 (25305); Thu, 28 Oct 2004 12:27:51 -0400 (EDT) From: TM4525@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 12:27:50 EDT To: spiraleyedgirl@hotmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5114 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Development Resources X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:28:08 -0000 In a message dated 10/16/04 5:27:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, spiraleyedgirl@hotmail.com writes: >Hello, > >After looking at the FreeBSD website and looking at docs all over the place, >I havent found what I'm looking for, so I decided to mail this list. >I am a software developer for Windows, and moving to FreeBSD has been very >nice, especially since the tools to make software are completly free! My >question is: Where can I find information on programming for FreeBSD? Things >like how it differs from Windows, what it can and can't do, how to develop >for X/KDE. I am good with C and C++, and know my way around gcc/make, but I >don't know about system and 'net API calls that are specific to FreeBSD, and >*NIX in general. >If you can point me to a good website, that would help >If you can point me to a (recent) book, that would be even better. > >Much thanks! Listen pal, there's are reason this stuff is free; figure it out for yourself! :D From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 28 16:30:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 984F516A4CE for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:30:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-d22.mx.aol.com (imo-d22.mx.aol.com [205.188.144.208]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BB1A43D46 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:30:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from TM4525@aol.com) Received: from TM4525@aol.com by imo-d22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id 7.fd.51f5778 (25305); Thu, 28 Oct 2004 12:30:20 -0400 (EDT) From: TM4525@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 12:30:20 EDT To: drew@mykitchentable.net, synrat@wirewalk.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5114 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dummynet X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:30:34 -0000 Why don't you guys stop torturing yourself and wasting $1000s worth of your time and get yourself some real bandwidth management software? Its cheaper in the long run. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 28 16:35:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6B3A16A4CE for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:35:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91.asp.att.net [63.240.76.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17F0643D48 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:35:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@insightbb.com) Received: from [192.168.1.239] (12-202-28-183.client.insightbb.com[12.202.28.183]) by sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91) with ESMTP id <20041028163544i9100132lee>; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:35:44 +0000 From: Steven Friedrich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 12:35:42 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410281235.43158.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> Subject: teTeX port problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:35:47 -0000 I cvsup'ed my ports yesterday and today, and teTeX won't build. Any hints? % portupgrade teTeX ---> Upgrading 'teTeX-2.0.2_5' to 'teTeX-2.0.2_6' (print/teTeX) ---> Building '/usr/ports/print/teTeX' ===> Cleaning for libiconv-1.9.2_1 ===> Cleaning for gettext-0.13.1_1 ===> Cleaning for gmake-3.80_2 ===> Cleaning for imake-4.4.0 ===> Cleaning for libtool-1.3.5_2 ===> Cleaning for libtool-1.5.10 ===> Cleaning for pkgconfig-0.15.0_1 ===> Cleaning for t1lib-5.0.1,1 ===> Cleaning for png-1.2.7 ===> Cleaning for perl-5.8.5 ===> Cleaning for dvipsk-tetex-5.92b_1 ===> Cleaning for freetype2-2.1.7_3 ===> Cleaning for teTeX-base-2.0.2_2 ===> Cleaning for teTeX-latex2e-1.0.20031201 ===> Cleaning for teTeX-texmf-2.0.2_1 ===> Cleaning for tex-texmflocal-1.5 ===> Cleaning for xdvik-tetex-22.78_2 ===> Cleaning for expat-1.95.8 ===> Cleaning for libwww-5.4.0_1 ===> Cleaning for fontconfig-2.2.3,1 ===> Cleaning for XFree86-libraries-4.4.0_1 ===> Cleaning for teTeX-2.0.2_6 ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found ===> Found saved configuration for teTeX-2.0.2_5 ===> Extracting for teTeX-2.0.2_6 ===> Patching for teTeX-2.0.2_6 ===> Configuring for teTeX-2.0.2_6 /usr/bin/sed -e s!%%TETEX_MODESW%%!/usr/local/bin/tetex-modesw!g -e s!%%MODE%%!tetex-letter!g < /usr/ports/print/teTeX/files/pkg-install.in > /usr/ports/print/teTeX/work/pkg-install.sh /bin/chmod 0755 /usr/ports/print/teTeX/work/pkg-install.sh ===> Building for teTeX-2.0.2_6 ---> Backing up the old version ---> Uninstalling the old version ---> Deinstalling 'teTeX-2.0.2_5' [Updating the pkgdb in /var/db/pkg ... - 272 packages found (-1 +0) (...) done] ---> Installing the new version via the port ===> Installing for teTeX-2.0.2_6 ===> teTeX-2.0.2_6 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/tetex-modesw - found ===> teTeX-2.0.2_6 depends on file: /usr/local/share/texmf/LICENSE.texmf - found ===> teTeX-2.0.2_6 depends on executable: latex - found ===> teTeX-2.0.2_6 depends on file: /usr/local/share/texmf-local/tex/latex/base/latex.ltx - not found ===> Verifying reinstall for /usr/local/share/texmf-local/tex/latex/base/latex.ltx in /usr/ports/print/teTeX-latex2e ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found ===> Extracting for teTeX-latex2e-1.0.20031201 >> Checksum OK for teTeX/base.tar.gz. ===> Patching for teTeX-latex2e-1.0.20031201 ===> teTeX-latex2e-1.0.20031201 depends on executable: tex - found ===> Configuring for teTeX-latex2e-1.0.20031201 ===> Building for teTeX-latex2e-1.0.20031201 /usr/local/bin/tex -ini unpack.ins This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Web2C 7.4.5) (INITEX) (./unpack.ins (./ltdirchk.dtx ** Using the existing texsys.cfg (/usr/local/share/texmf/tex/latex/config/texsys.cfg) ./texsys.aux found \@currdir set to: ./. ) (./docstrip.dtx Utility: `docstrip' 2.5c <2003/09/18> English documentation <1999/03/31> ********************************************************** * This program converts documented macro-files into fast * * loadable files by stripping off (nearly) all comments! * ********************************************************** ******************************************************** * No Configuration file found, using default settings. * ******************************************************** ) (./ltvers.dtx) ********************************************** * * Welcome to the Installation routine of * * LaTeX2e <2003/12/01> * * Depending on your machine the installation * might take a long time --- this is the * price for being able to run on all platforms. * So please be patient :-) * ********************************************** (./format.ins Generating file(s) ./latex.ltx ./tracefnt.sty ./flafter.sty ./fleqn.clo ./leqno .clo Processing file ltdirchk.dtx (initex,2ekernel,dircheck) -> latex.ltx Lines processed: 911 Comments removed: 670 Comments passed: 1 Codelines passed: 219 Processing file ltplain.dtx (2ekernel) -> latex.ltx Lines processed: 1112 Comments removed: 826 Comments passed: 17 Codelines passed: 251 Processing file ltvers.dtx (2ekernel) -> latex.ltx File ltvers.dtx ended by \endinput. 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I can't find file `ushyph1.tex'. \relax l.319 \repeat Please type another input file name: From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 28 16:38:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04AC716A4CE; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:38:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from adsl-67-118-1-110.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net (adsl-67-118-1-110.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [67.118.1.110]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0636043D31; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:38:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sphedt@xyzgroup.com) Received: from tori.xj.su (146.3.199.105) by ck.jo.phe.mx with ESMTP; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 11:42:14 -0600 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 11:42:14 -0600 From: Ashlee Reagan To: questions@freebsd.org Errors-To: sphedt@xyzgroup.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-cid: 17444159265 X-pid: 242272 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Re: detector Saev on yourViecodin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: sphedt@xyzgroup.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:38:42 -0000 S a v e 80% on your Pr escrip tion Me di cat ions S O M A - V A L I U M - X A N A X - V I O X X V I A G R A - C I A L I S V I C O D I N - L o w e s t pr ice online Pri vate and Co nf ide ntial D r u g s F D A A p p r oved Gua ranteed Deli very on all o r ders Gu ara nteed L o w e s t Pr ice s 24/7 Cu stom er C a r e Center S i m p l e O n line Ord erin g Sys tem Re fill Your Pre scr iptions O n l i n e [1]C l i c k H er e NO p re vi o us pr es ct ip ti on re qu ei re d particular ideals controlled researches properlywork statesreferring referents benzol Buddhists funds PhD likes ignores References 1. http://aorconq.ckadfgef.info/?5C7jDbCHHFcK45Bfgdadmh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 28 16:38:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04AC716A4CE; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:38:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from adsl-67-118-1-110.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net (adsl-67-118-1-110.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [67.118.1.110]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0636043D31; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:38:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sphedt@xyzgroup.com) Received: from tori.xj.su (146.3.199.105) by ck.jo.phe.mx with ESMTP; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 11:42:14 -0600 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 11:42:14 -0600 From: Ashlee Reagan To: questions@freebsd.org Errors-To: sphedt@xyzgroup.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-cid: 17444159265 X-pid: 242272 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Re: detector Saev on yourViecodin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: sphedt@xyzgroup.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:38:42 -0000 S a v e 80% on your Pr escrip tion Me di cat ions S O M A - V A L I U M - X A N A X - V I O X X V I A G R A - C I A L I S V I C O D I N - L o w e s t pr ice online Pri vate and Co nf ide ntial D r u g s F D A A p p r oved Gua ranteed Deli very on all o r ders Gu ara nteed L o w e s t Pr ice s 24/7 Cu stom er C a r e Center S i m p l e O n line Ord erin g Sys tem Re fill Your Pre scr iptions O n l i n e [1]C l i c k H er e NO p re vi o us pr es ct ip ti on re qu ei re d particular ideals controlled researches properlywork statesreferring referents benzol Buddhists funds PhD likes ignores References 1. http://aorconq.ckadfgef.info/?5C7jDbCHHFcK45Bfgdadmh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 28 16:39:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F68516A4CE for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:39:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41D5843D3F for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:39:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-160-246-51.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.160.246.51]) by pi.codefab.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i9SGdZu5058332 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 28 Oct 2004 12:39:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <418120C6.6070407@mac.com> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 12:39:34 -0400 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: m.hauber@mchsi.com References: <200410281127.30511.m.hauber@mchsi.com> In-Reply-To: <200410281127.30511.m.hauber@mchsi.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.6 required=5.5 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on pi.codefab.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: shared memory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:39:42 -0000 Mike Hauber wrote: > I have acquired a mo/bo with a built-in video adapter. > Being that I have 768 megs of ram, I _know_ I have plenty > of memory to allot to video. BIOS doesn't pass this on to > FreeBSD. [ ... ] > I'm bringing up VESA from the kernal and it's giving it 16 > megs of ram. Where can I read up on, or how can I increase > this allotment? I think you have an integrated video controller which uses main memory rather than having it's own dedicated VRAM. Look for an option in your BIOS config to adjust the size of the frame buffer. You should adjust the amount of memory reserved for video to enough to handle whatever screen depth you want to run at, there isn't much point to allocating any more. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 28 16:39:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C4E516A4CE for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:39:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91.asp.att.net [63.240.76.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D826243D1F for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:39:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@insightbb.com) Received: from [192.168.1.239] (12-202-28-183.client.insightbb.com[12.202.28.183]) by sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91) with ESMTP id <20041028163912i9100130ufe>; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:39:12 +0000 From: Steven Friedrich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 12:39:11 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <200410281235.43158.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> In-Reply-To: <200410281235.43158.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410281239.11405.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> Subject: Re: teTeX port problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:39:14 -0000 On Thursday 28 October 2004 12:35 pm, Steven Friedrich wrote: > I cvsup'ed my ports yesterday and today, and teTeX won't build. > > Any hints? > > > > % portupgrade teTeX > ---> Upgrading 'teTeX-2.0.2_5' to 'teTeX-2.0.2_6' (print/teTeX) > ---> Building '/usr/ports/print/teTeX' > ===> Cleaning for libiconv-1.9.2_1 > ===> Cleaning for gettext-0.13.1_1 > ===> Cleaning for gmake-3.80_2 > ===> Cleaning for imake-4.4.0 > ===> Cleaning for libtool-1.3.5_2 > ===> Cleaning for libtool-1.5.10 > ===> Cleaning for pkgconfig-0.15.0_1 > ===> Cleaning for t1lib-5.0.1,1 > ===> Cleaning for png-1.2.7 > ===> Cleaning for perl-5.8.5 > ===> Cleaning for dvipsk-tetex-5.92b_1 > ===> Cleaning for freetype2-2.1.7_3 > ===> Cleaning for teTeX-base-2.0.2_2 > ===> Cleaning for teTeX-latex2e-1.0.20031201 > ===> Cleaning for teTeX-texmf-2.0.2_1 > ===> Cleaning for tex-texmflocal-1.5 > ===> Cleaning for xdvik-tetex-22.78_2 > ===> Cleaning for expat-1.95.8 > ===> Cleaning for libwww-5.4.0_1 > ===> Cleaning for fontconfig-2.2.3,1 > ===> Cleaning for XFree86-libraries-4.4.0_1 > ===> Cleaning for teTeX-2.0.2_6 > ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found > ===> Found saved configuration for teTeX-2.0.2_5 > ===> Extracting for teTeX-2.0.2_6 > ===> Patching for teTeX-2.0.2_6 > ===> Configuring for teTeX-2.0.2_6 > /usr/bin/sed -e s!%%TETEX_MODESW%%!/usr/local/bin/tetex-modesw!g -e > s!%%MODE%%!tetex-letter!g < /usr/ports/print/teTeX/files/pkg-install.in > > > /usr/ports/print/teTeX/work/pkg-install.sh > > /bin/chmod 0755 /usr/ports/print/teTeX/work/pkg-install.sh > ===> Building for teTeX-2.0.2_6 > ---> Backing up the old version > ---> Uninstalling the old version > ---> Deinstalling 'teTeX-2.0.2_5' > [Updating the pkgdb in /var/db/pkg ... - 272 packages > found (-1 +0) (...) done] > ---> Installing the new version via the port > ===> Installing for teTeX-2.0.2_6 > ===> teTeX-2.0.2_6 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/tetex-modesw - found > ===> teTeX-2.0.2_6 depends on file: /usr/local/share/texmf/LICENSE.texmf > - found > ===> teTeX-2.0.2_6 depends on executable: latex - found > ===> teTeX-2.0.2_6 depends on > file: /usr/local/share/texmf-local/tex/latex/base/latex.ltx - not found > ===> Verifying reinstall > for /usr/local/share/texmf-local/tex/latex/base/latex.ltx > in /usr/ports/print/teTeX-latex2e > ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found > ===> Extracting for teTeX-latex2e-1.0.20031201 > > >> Checksum OK for teTeX/base.tar.gz. > > ===> Patching for teTeX-latex2e-1.0.20031201 > ===> teTeX-latex2e-1.0.20031201 depends on executable: tex - found > ===> Configuring for teTeX-latex2e-1.0.20031201 > ===> Building for teTeX-latex2e-1.0.20031201 > /usr/local/bin/tex -ini unpack.ins > This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Web2C 7.4.5) (INITEX) > (./unpack.ins (./ltdirchk.dtx > ** Using the existing texsys.cfg > (/usr/local/share/texmf/tex/latex/config/texsys.cfg) > ./texsys.aux found > > > \@currdir set to: ./. > > ) (./docstrip.dtx > Utility: `docstrip' 2.5c <2003/09/18> > English documentation <1999/03/31> > > ********************************************************** > * This program converts documented macro-files into fast * > * loadable files by stripping off (nearly) all comments! * > ********************************************************** > > ******************************************************** > * No Configuration file found, using default settings. * > ******************************************************** > > ) (./ltvers.dtx) > ********************************************** > * > * Welcome to the Installation routine of > * > * LaTeX2e <2003/12/01> > * > * Depending on your machine the installation > * might take a long time --- this is the > * price for being able to run on all platforms. > * So please be patient :-) > * > ********************************************** > > > (./format.ins > > Generating > file(s) ./latex.ltx ./tracefnt.sty ./flafter.sty ./fleqn.clo ./leqno > .clo > > Processing file ltdirchk.dtx (initex,2ekernel,dircheck) -> latex.ltx > Lines processed: 911 > Comments removed: 670 > Comments passed: 1 > Codelines passed: 219 > > > Processing file ltplain.dtx (2ekernel) -> latex.ltx > Lines processed: 1112 > Comments removed: 826 > Comments passed: 17 > Codelines passed: 251 > > > Processing file ltvers.dtx (2ekernel) -> latex.ltx > File ltvers.dtx ended by \endinput. > Lines processed: 145 > 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I can't find file `ushyph1.tex'. > > \relax > l.319 \repeat > > Please type another input file name: > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I failed to mention that I'm running STABLE. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 28 16:41:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C941C16A4CE for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:41:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from tiny.smallweb.com (smallweb.com [216.85.125.110]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7437243D55 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:41:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from steve@Antero.com) Received: from silver.Antero.com (silver.nano.net [216.85.125.13]) by tiny.smallweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9SGgiql022351 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 10:42:44 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <6.0.3.0.2.20041028102537.04be6ec0@nano.net> X-Sender: antero@nano.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.3.0 Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 10:39:32 -0600 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Steve Suhre Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: Hacker activity? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:41:32 -0000 I'm not sure if this is the correct group...but I'm getting some weird activity on the network. The security reports will show 50-100 attempts to login to a server, most as root but some are attempts to login to other seemingly random account names. The login attempts are through ssh or telnet, all come from the same remote server, and all fail. I'm also getting some odd cgi calls to a script on a secure ssl server. There's nothing that this particular script could do for a hacker, but the script is sent a random string, sometimes many times a minute, other times it's every 2 -3 minutes. I grabbed the ip address and blocked it, and about 10 minutes later it had moved to another ip. I'm now blocking a range of ip's. These don't seem like enough iterations to be very successful, the odds are overwhelmingly in favor of the server at this rate... Does anyone have a clue what might be happening or where I should go to find out? --- Steve Suhre Antero web technologies 719.634.8161 steve@Antero.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 28 16:46:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 706A516A4CE for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:46:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92.asp.att.net [63.240.76.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DB0543D1F for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:46:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@insightbb.com) Received: from [192.168.1.239] (12-202-28-183.client.insightbb.com[12.202.28.183]) by sccimhc92.asp.att.net (sccimhc92) with ESMTP id <20041028164638i9200apu7je>; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:46:38 +0000 From: Steven Friedrich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 12:43:55 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410281243.55209.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> Subject: intltool port complains XML-Parser is missing, but it's not X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:46:39 -0000 For a couple weeks, I haven't been able to build intltool. It complains about XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool But as you can see below, I have p5-XML-Parser-2.34_1 installed. % portupgrade intltool ---> Upgrading 'intltool-0.31.2' to 'intltool-0.31.3' (textproc/intltool) ---> Building '/usr/ports/textproc/intltool' ===> Cleaning for libiconv-1.9.2_1 ===> Cleaning for gettext-0.13.1_1 ===> Cleaning for gmake-3.80_2 ===> Cleaning for libtool-1.3.5_2 ===> Cleaning for libtool-1.5.10 ===> Cleaning for perl-5.8.5 ===> Cleaning for expat-1.95.8 ===> Cleaning for p5-XML-Parser-2.34_1 ===> Cleaning for intltool-0.31.3 ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found ===> Extracting for intltool-0.31.3 >> Checksum OK for gnome/intltool-0.31.3.tar.bz2. ===> intltool-0.31.3 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.5 - found ===> Patching for intltool-0.31.3 ===> intltool-0.31.3 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.5 - found ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for intltool-0.31.3 ===> intltool-0.31.3 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/m ach/XML/Parser.pm - found ===> intltool-0.31.3 depends on executable: gmake - found ===> intltool-0.31.3 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.5 - found ===> intltool-0.31.3 depends on shared library: iconv.3 - found ===> Configuring for intltool-0.31.3 checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c -o root -g wheel checking whether build environment is sane... yes checking for gawk... no checking for mawk... no checking for nawk... nawk checking whether gmake sets $(MAKE)... yes checking for perl... /usr/bin/perl checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool ===> Script "configure" failed unexpectedly. Please direct the output of the failure of the make command to a file, and then feed that file to the gnomelogalyzer, available from http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/gnomelogalyzer.sh, which will diagnose the problem and suggest a solution. If - and only if - the gnomelogalyzer cannot solve the problem, report the problem to the FreeBSD GNOME team at gnome@FreeBSD.org, and attach "/usr/ports/textproc/intltool/work/intltool-0.31.3/config.log" and the output of the failure of the make command. Also, it might be a good idea to provide an overview of all packages installed on your system (e.g. an `ls /var/db/pkg`). *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/intltool. ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portupgrade16840.0 make ** Fix the problem and try again. ** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed) ! textproc/intltool (intltool-0.31.2) (configure error) ---> Packages processed: 0 done, 0 ignored, 0 skipped and 1 failed root@lightning(p1)/usr/ports 132% portversion -v | grep -i parser p5-PodParser-1.28_1 = up-to-date with port p5-XML-Parser-2.34_1 = up-to-date with port From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 28 16:47:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B30C016A4CE for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:47:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from blue.gerhardt-it.com (gw.gerhardt-it.com [204.83.38.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 247DE43D5A for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:47:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scott@g-it.ca) Received: from [192.168.0.101] (hsdbsk204-83-48-41.sasknet.sk.ca [204.83.48.41]) by blue.gerhardt-it.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 413B3FD96 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 10:47:41 -0600 (CST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <13655805-2901-11D9-972D-000393801C60@g-it.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: FreeBSD From: Scott Gerhardt Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 10:47:38 -0600 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Subject: SATA Raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:47:43 -0000 Can anyone recommend a SATA RAID card that does true hardware RAID and works with 4.10 Release? I can't find any definitive documentation for this... All I seem to find are conflicting or incomplete reports via google and mailing lists. I know the twe driver supports 3Ware Escalade, but does it support the 8500 and 9500 series cards? What about these 4 channel SATA cards?: Adaptec 2410SA Intel SRCS14 3Ware 8506-4LP 3Ware 9500S-4LP Thanks, -- Scott A. Gerhardt, P.Geo. Gerhardt Information Technologies From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 28 16:50:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1405D16A4CE for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:50:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bsdie.tunasafedolphin.org (tunasafedolphin.org [207.44.144.112]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F5FC43D2D for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:50:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from james@tunasafedolphin.org) Received: from webmail.tunasafedolphin.org (bsdie.tunasafedolphin.org [127.0.0.1])i9SGqNro022770; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 12:52:23 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from james@tunasafedolphin.org) Received: from adsl-068-209-252-201.sip.asm.bellsouth.net ([68.209.252.201]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user james@tunasafedolphin.org); by webmail.tunasafedolphin.org with HTTP; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 12:52:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <63774.68.209.252.201.1098982344.squirrel@68.209.252.201> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 12:52:24 -0400 (EDT) From: "James Skinner" To: TM4525@aol.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal cc: drew@mykitchentable.net cc: synrat@wirewalk.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dummynet X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:50:39 -0000 > Why don't you guys stop torturing yourself and wasting $1000s worth > of your time and get yourself some real bandwidth management > software? Its cheaper in the long run. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Funny, I thought that's what Dummynet did. It seems that you wouldn't want to steer a user into a horribly overpriced closed-source rate-limiting solutuion when it's available for free in the OS. BTW: Nice email addr. ;) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 28 16:58:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E50616A4CE for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:58:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4658843D49 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:58:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A7E4352C13; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 09:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 09:59:57 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Steven Friedrich Message-ID: <20041028165957.GA64822@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <200410281235.43158.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="J/dobhs11T7y2rNN" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200410281235.43158.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: teTeX port problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:58:45 -0000 --J/dobhs11T7y2rNN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Oct 28, 2004 at 12:35:42PM -0400, Steven Friedrich wrote: > I cvsup'ed my ports yesterday and today, and teTeX won't build. >=20 > Any hints? Talk to the port maintainer, that's what they're there for :) Kris --J/dobhs11T7y2rNN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBgSWNWry0BWjoQKURAsyZAJ9M/8Sxmf6tihVqYveZ8MW1EBiEzwCeJk6Q 9ouZxPCIGCzdG2udZDj6Gg0= =l5FH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --J/dobhs11T7y2rNN-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 28 17:02:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C94A16A4CE for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:02:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cactus.fi.uba.ar (cactus.fi.uba.ar [157.92.49.108]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7850D43D31 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:02:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fgleiser@cactus.fi.uba.ar) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cactus.fi.uba.ar (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i9SH503I003715; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 14:05:00 -0300 (ART) (envelope-from fgleiser@cactus.fi.uba.ar) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 14:05:00 -0300 (ART) From: Fernando Gleiser To: Steven Friedrich In-Reply-To: <200410281239.11405.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> Message-ID: <20041028140128.L24009@cactus.fi.uba.ar> References: <200410281235.43158.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> <200410281239.11405.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Score: -104.901 () BAYES_00,USER_IN_WHITELIST X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.42 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: teTeX port problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:02:45 -0000 On Thu, 28 Oct 2004, Steven Friedrich wrote: [32K of previous message trimmed] > > I failed to mention that I'm running STABLE. You failed to trim your post too. PLEASE trim your posts. Sending a 32k messaje just to add a single line at the very bottom of it is plain bad manners and bad nettiquette. Fer From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 28 17:09:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E968B16A4CE for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:09:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from floyd.gnulife.org (floyd.gnulife.org [199.86.41.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5142E43D49 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:09:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jamie@gnulife.org) Received: from floyd.gnulife.org (localhost.gnulife.org [127.0.0.1]) by floyd.gnulife.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i9SH8iRB028959 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 12:08:44 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jamie@gnulife.org) Received: from localhost (jamie@localhost)i9SH8hwA028956 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 12:08:44 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jamie@gnulife.org) X-Authentication-Warning: floyd.gnulife.org: jamie owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 12:08:43 -0500 (CDT) From: Jamie To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041028120141.X28732@floyd.gnulife.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: make buildworld failing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:09:08 -0000 I am upgrading my system from 4.4 REL to 4.10 REL. I cvsupped my source tree over, and after I've got the new source tree, when I go to run make buildworld, it compiles for quite a while, but then eventually it fails: objcopy -S -O binary boot2.out boot2.bin btxld -v -E 0x1000 -f bin -b /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/boot/i386/boot2/../btx/btx/btx -l boot2.ldr -o boot2.ld -P 1 boot2.bin btxld: /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/boot/i386/boot2/../btx/btx/btx: Not a BTX kernel *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/boot2. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/boot/i386. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/boot. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. I scratched my head, and then ran 'make cleandir' a couple of times. Then I tried make buildworld again, and the same error comes up. I suppose I could try pulling down the whole source tree again, maybe a file is truncated, but before I do that, I wonder if anyone else may have anything I can try. Thanks, - Jamie The Moon is Full From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 28 17:16:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FF6916A4CE for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:16:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web88011.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web88011.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.37.230]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 32CF343D48 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:16:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from redfox@rogers.com) Message-ID: <20041028171610.3894.qmail@web88011.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Received: from [198.103.104.11] by web88011.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 13:16:10 EDT Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 13:16:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Kimberley Chrona To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: sun box X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:16:11 -0000 Hi there Two very simple questions, can I run FreeBSD on a Sun box and is it possible to run BSD on VMware Kim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 28 17:18:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08EB216A4CE for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:18:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.seekingfire.com (coyote.seekingfire.com [24.72.10.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C854543D49 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:18:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tillman@seekingfire.com) Received: by mail.seekingfire.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id 71F1F3AA; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 11:18:05 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 11:18:05 -0600 From: Tillman Hodgson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041028171805.GU94897@seekingfire.com> References: <20041028171610.3894.qmail@web88011.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041028171610.3894.qmail@web88011.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Habeas-SWE-1: winter into spring X-Habeas-SWE-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-SWE-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). 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X-GPG-Key-ID: 828AFC7B X-GPG-Fingerprint: 5584 14BA C9EB 1524 0E68 F543 0F0A 7FBC 828A FC7B X-GPG-Key: http://www.seekingfire.com/gpg_key.asc X-Urban-Legend: There is lots of hidden information in headers User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: Re: sun box X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:18:06 -0000 On Thu, Oct 28, 2004 at 01:16:10PM -0400, Kimberley Chrona wrote: > Hi there > > Two very simple questions, can I run FreeBSD on a Sun box and is it > possible to run BSD on VMware I can't speak to VMware, but you can run FreeBSD on some types of Sun gear (I'm running it on an Ultra 5, for example). See http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/sparc.html for details. -T -- Page 491: If you want to master emacs, it helps to believe in reincarnation, because there is no way you are going to learn it all in a single lifetime. - Harley Hahn, _The Unix Companion_ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 28 17:21:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF4D216A4CE for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:21:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from helium.webpack.hosteurope.de (helium.webpack.hosteurope.de [217.115.142.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4E9443D49 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:21:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from me@hexren.net) Received: from p50871e1b.dip.t-dialin.net ([80.135.30.27] helo=hexren) by helium.webpack.hosteurope.de with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CNDxN-0006XJ-2e for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:21:01 +0200 Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:21:00 +0200 From: Hexren X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62i) Business X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <4830115774.20041028192100@hexren.net> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <20041028171610.3894.qmail@web88011.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <20041028171610.3894.qmail@web88011.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-HE-MXrcvd: no Subject: Re: sun box X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Hexren List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:21:03 -0000 KC> Hi there KC> Two very simple questions, can I run FreeBSD on a Sun box and is it possible to run BSD on VMware KC> Kim KC> _______________________________________________ KC> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list KC> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions KC> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --------------------------------------------- I dunno about the SunBox but VMware is possible. Currently I run FreeBSD 4.10 in a VMware Workstation Version 4.0.5. The machine hosting the Virtual Machine is running Windows XP. Though I must admit I wasn't able to bring a FreeBSD Version greater than 4.10 to work in the VM.(I only tried 5.2.1) Hexren From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 28 17:32:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 581BD16A4CE for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:32:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from chaos.fxp.org (chaos.fxp.org [209.251.159.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 347AD43D2D for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:32:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bob@fxp.org) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c-24-0-83-94.client.comcast.net [24.0.83.94]) by chaos.fxp.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE99747E for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 13:32:23 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) In-Reply-To: <20041028171610.3894.qmail@web88011.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <20041028171610.3894.qmail@web88011.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <546382A2-2907-11D9-A5F2-000A95CEE8B4@fxp.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bob Bomar Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 12:32:24 -0500 To: questions@freebsd.org X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.0.1 (v33, 10.3) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Subject: Re: sun box X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:32:27 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Oct 28, 2004, at 12:16 PM, Kimberley Chrona wrote: > Hi there > > Two very simple questions, can I run FreeBSD on a Sun box and is it > possible to run BSD on VMware > 1. Yes, It will run on UltraSPARC 1's (Ultra 1/2) And UltraSPARC 2 Processors. I have seen it run on a E250 Dual Proc machine. I was never able to get X running, but the base OS runs just fine. I was running Apache/Postfix/MySQL on an Ultra 5 and others just fine. See http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.2.1R/hardware-sparc64.html#SUPPORT- SYS 2. Yes. - -- Bob Bomar bob@bomar.us http://bob.bomar.us - --------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve http://www.FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFBgS0q9Jm/aTrtdKoRAm8cAJ0YeQWln3ilsTDw770LUYlcXf+pLACfdha0 /V0LYRasKfTTEx/FX4vmFbA= =QN0e -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 28 18:23:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEDF616A4CE; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 18:23:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from daemon.mistermishap.net (167-49.nyc.dsl.access.net [166.84.167.49]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F085D43D46; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 18:23:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rob@hudson-trading.com) Received: from daemon.mistermishap.net (localhost.mistermishap.net [127.0.0.1])i9SINLkJ090489; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 14:23:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rob@hudson-trading.com) Received: from localhost (rob@localhost)i9SINKTE090486; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 14:23:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: daemon.mistermishap.net: rob owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 14:23:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Rob Watt X-X-Sender: rob@daemon.mistermishap.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041028134906.P88926@daemon.mistermishap.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-ia32@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: re: 7520 Chipset support in 4.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 18:23:23 -0000 > Many of the new MBs from such tiny vendors as Dell and Supermicro > are based on the 7520, and word is that FreeBSD 4.x doesn't support > it. Is support forthcoming? We have 2 Dell PowerEdge 1850 servers which have the e7520 chipset. They hang consistently in 4.10-RELEASE and below whenever there is high network or disk utilization. We have not been able to get any debugging info. After upgrading to 4.10-STABLE a couple of weeks ago, they no longer hang, but they are _really_ slow to perform network and disk operations. They work fine in FreeBSD 5.3, but unfortunately our applications do not run without recompiling. We do not want to change our environment to support different binaries for different machines, and we don't want to use 5.X in production until it is STABLE. I want to echo the above question. Are there patches available or forthcoming to fix the problems with the e7520? Thanks, - Rob Watt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 28 18:26:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43C3116A4CE for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 18:26:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from tyven.la3sg.net (la3sg.net [217.13.29.172]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15BD143D2F for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 18:26:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tyven@tyven.la3sg.net) Received: from tyven.la3sg.net (tyven@localhost.la3sg.net [127.0.0.1]) by tyven.la3sg.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i9SIQdcH028530; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:26:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from tyven@tyven.la3sg.net) Received: (from tyven@localhost) by tyven.la3sg.net (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id i9SIQcfG028495; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:26:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from tyven) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:26:37 +0200 From: Kjell Midtseter To: "Walter C. Pelissero" Message-ID: <20041028182637.GA19033@tyven.la3sg.net> Mail-Followup-To: "Walter C. Pelissero" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <16768.18838.460065.189523@hyde.home.loc> <20041028055808.GA837@tyven.la3sg.net> <16768.58444.330590.963210@hyde.home.loc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <16768.58444.330590.963210@hyde.home.loc> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: EPIA ME-6000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: junkmail@sensewave.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 18:26:41 -0000 On Thursday, 28 October 2004 at 14:21:32 +0200, Walter C. Pelissero wrote: > Kjell Midtseter writes: > > On Thursday, 28 October 2004 at 3:21:26 +0200, Walter C. Pelissero wrote: > > > I'm trying to run FreeBSD 5.3 on a Via EPIA ME-6000, but there are > > > still a couple of things that don't work. > > > > > > First. The PXE loading process is quite slow because it gets stuck > > > for a half a minute here and there while loading the KLD modules. No > > > network activity while the rotating bar on the screen freezes. I > > > tried to work around this problem compiling a monolithic kernel, but > > > still the PXE has to load at least three files (acpi.ko, loader.conf, > > > kernel), giving the chance to delay the boot. I don't know if this is > > > a problem related to the PXE rom or to pxeboot. > > > > > > The second problem is the sound. The device is recognised and the > > > via8233 driver is properly loaded; 12 dsp devices appear in /dev > > > (dsp0.[0-5] and dspW0.[0-5]) and the user programs work as nothing was > > > wrong, unfortunately no sound is produced. > > > > > > Is there anyone who has succeeded to run FreeBSD on one of these cute > > > Mini-ITX? > > I am running 6.3 on a M-10000 without any problems except that there > > are no X-11 support for the 'vga' chip so I can not run a windows manager > > You mean 5.3, don't you? Sorry, R5.3RC1 > My M-6000's video chip works flawlessly with Xorg. What driver did you specify in the Device Secton of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file? Kjell From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 28 18:33:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D77716A4CE for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 18:33:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91.asp.att.net [204.127.203.211]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 455E443D54 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 18:33:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.hauber@mchsi.com) Received: from [10.51.10.3] (12-219-204-133.client.mchsi.com[12.219.204.133]) by sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91) with ESMTP id <20041028183311m9100cdso8e>; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 18:33:11 +0000 From: Mike Hauber To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 14:34:44 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <200410281127.30511.m.hauber@mchsi.com> <418120C6.6070407@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <418120C6.6070407@mac.com> X-Copyright: 2004, Michael C. Hauber. All rights reserved. X-Notice: Duplication, modification, and/or redistribution are prohibited without proper consent from the author. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410281434.44443.m.hauber@mchsi.com> Subject: Re: shared memory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: m.hauber@mchsi.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 18:33:12 -0000 On Thursday 28 October 2004 12:39 pm, Chuck Swiger proclaimed: > Mike Hauber wrote: > > I have acquired a mo/bo with a built-in video adapter. > > Being that I have 768 megs of ram, I _know_ I have > > plenty of memory to allot to video. BIOS doesn't pass > > this on to FreeBSD. > > [ ... ] > > > I'm bringing up VESA from the kernal and it's giving it > > 16 megs of ram. Where can I read up on, or how can I > > increase this allotment? > > I think you have an integrated video controller which > uses main memory rather than having it's own dedicated > VRAM. Look for an option in your BIOS config to adjust > the size of the frame buffer. > > You should adjust the amount of memory reserved for video > to enough to handle whatever screen depth you want to run > at, there isn't much point to allocating any more. Whoa. I thought I had tried that, but apparently I didn't (or at least I couldn't have saved before restarting). Sorry. FreeBSD _does_ respect the allotment. Thanks. That's what I needed (besides a break). Regards, Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 28 18:33:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13C2916A4CE for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 18:33:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.cableone.net (scanmail2.cableone.net [24.116.0.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7F6543D46 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 18:33:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vvelox@vvelox.net) Received: from vixen42.24-119-122-191.cpe.cableone.net (unverified [24.119.122.25]) by smail2.cableone.net (SurgeMail 1.9b) with ESMTP id 24324289 for multiple; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 11:31:56 -0700 Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 13:32:50 -0500 From: Vulpes Velox To: Steve Suhre Message-ID: <20041028133250.77c30503@vixen42.24-119-122-191.cpe.cableone.net> In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.2.20041028102537.04be6ec0@nano.net> References: <6.0.3.0.2.20041028102537.04be6ec0@nano.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12b (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.10) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hacker activity? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 18:33:29 -0000 On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 10:39:32 -0600 Steve Suhre wrote: > > > I'm not sure if this is the correct group...but I'm getting some > weird activity on the network. The security reports will show 50-100 > attempts to login to a server, most as root but some are attempts to > login to other seemingly random account names. The login attempts > are through ssh or telnet, all come from the same remote server, and > all fail. I'm also getting some odd cgi calls to a script on a > secure ssl server. There's nothing that this particular script could > do for a hacker, but the script is sent a random string, sometimes > many times a minute, other times it's every 2 -3 minutes. I grabbed > the ip address and blocked it, and about 10 minutes later it had > moved to another ip. I'm now blocking a range of ip's. These don't > seem like enough iterations to be very successful, the odds are > overwhelmingly in favor of the server at this rate... Does anyone > have a clue what might be happening or where I should go to find > out? If it all from a common subnet, I would block it. I would then whois to see who if there is a abuse addy I could complain to or the like. Also man login.conf. Sounds like some jerk singled you out is is possibly is trying it all on a subnet. Back in before moving stuff off common ports, I would get massive amounts of that crap. It was basically ppl trying any thing in the colleges address space. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 28 18:34:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70A1516A4CE for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 18:34:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from s1.home.ro (s1.home.ro [193.231.236.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54D3443D2D for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 18:34:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vladtudorache@home.ro) Received: (qmail 4314 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2004 18:17:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (80.97.176.192) by 133.home.ro with SMTP; 28 Oct 2004 18:17:09 -0000 Received: from unknown [80.97.184.202] by 172.31.7.10; 28 Oct 2004 21:34:31 +0300 Message-ID: <41813BB3.1010902@home.ro> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:34:27 +0300 From: Vlad Tudorache User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (Windows/20040502) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <417FE31F.4090607@sympatico.ca> <44oeinkid1.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> In-Reply-To: <44oeinkid1.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ATA Slave Devices X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 18:34:34 -0000 Lowell Gilbert wrote: >Jim Chapman writes: > > > >>I have 2 devices that will not work as slaves. They are a CD-RW drive >>and an IDE tape drive. They both work fine as masters. They give a >>message >> >>ATA identify retries exceeded >> >>during the boot. >> >>I have tried different combinations of masters and slaves and >>different cables. The bios recognizes them as slaves. >> >>Has anyone else experienced this problem? >> >> > >If you set something up as a slave, make sure that there is a master >on that bus. >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > This happened to me, too. Even if you setup a master device on the same cable with the "pseudotroubled" one it won't work. I don't know why, but on my kernel from which I removed all SCSI support it then worked. For you, with a CDRW... if you remove SCSI support (including ATAPICAM) the cdrdao will not work any more... It seems a FreeBSD's problem with using removable ATAPI devices. The floppy controller behaves strangely with ACPI activated, for example... This is a minus for the FreeBSD, a very stable and secure system... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 28 18:48:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B042716A4CE for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 18:48:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6465543D5A for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 18:48:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-a139.otenet.gr [212.205.215.139]) i9SIlmqJ017568; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:47:56 +0300 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i9SIkoVC081392; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:46:50 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id i9SIkocr081391; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:46:50 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:46:50 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: TM4525@aol.com Message-ID: <20041028184650.GA81196@gothmog.gr> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Development Resources X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 18:48:26 -0000 On 2004-10-28 12:27, TM4525@aol.com wrote: > > Listen pal, there's are reason this stuff is free; figure it out for yourself! Dear troll, This is not an acceptable manner of replying to users who ask for help on this list. If you don't have anything constructive to say, then by all means don't. See the charter of this list, as posted by Greg Lehey, for details. The freebsd-questions mailing list is a place where anyone is allowed to ask for help of any sort, as long as it pertains to FreeBSD. If we as a group answer legitimate and well-written questions like the original in the same way that you did, the people asking them might be offended. Not by you, as a person, not by me or anyone else. By the ``FreeBSD people''. So do us, and all the FreeBSD users, a favor and spare us the irony. - Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 28 18:50:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7C1C16A4CE for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 18:50:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from exch1.nfmwe.com (68-75-194-133.ded.ameritech.net [68.75.194.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68AA743D54 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 18:50:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from PHILLEN@NFM.NET) Received: by exch1.nfmwe.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 14:57:56 -0400 Message-ID: <99FE86B08AAB034AA33325827D700CE203D4C5@exch1.nfmwe.com> From: Paul Hillen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 14:57:56 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: RE: Is anyone running Novells eDirectory on Freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 18:50:25 -0000 No answers I guess means either it is a stupid question or a definite NO. Thanks anyway -----Original Message----- From: Paul Hillen [mailto:PHILLEN@NFM.NET] Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 1:57 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Is anyone running Novells eDirectory on Freebsd Hi everyone, I want to know if anyone out there is running Novell's eDirectory on FreeBSD and if so, what OS version. I am at moving from an NT Domain and would like to look into eDirectory, but I really don't like Linux as much as FreeBSD. I know FreeBSD has Linux compatibility, but I need to know if anyone is actually using it. Thanks in advance Paul _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 28 18:54:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A11016A4CE for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 18:54:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gort.hpl.hp.com (gort.hpl.hp.com [192.6.10.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E1C243D5D for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 18:54:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stefek.zaba@hpl.hp.com) Received: from otter.hpl.hp.com (otter.hpl.hp.com [15.144.59.2]) by gort.hpl.hp.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9SIrmj3013211; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:53:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from zaba-s-2.hpl.hp.com (zaba-s-2.hpl.hp.com [15.144.25.201]) Internal Mail Hub) with ESMTP id TAA06592; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:53:47 +0100 (BST) Received: by zaba-s-2.hpl.hp.com (Postfix, from userid 129) id 413EE129A1; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:53:47 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:53:47 +0100 From: Stefek Zaba To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041028185347.GA1917@zaba-s-2.hpl.hp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-HPL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the Helpdesk for more information X-HPL-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-HPL-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam (whitelisted), SpamAssassin (score=-2.766, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -0.84, BAYES_00 -2.60, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS 0.68) X-MailScanner-From: stefek.zaba@hpl.hp.com cc: stefek.zaba@hp.com Subject: shutdown(8): supposed to dismount all FSes? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 18:54:14 -0000 Dumb question, which "man 8 shutdown" and cousins (halt, reboot) don't seem to answer: is incanting "shutdown" expected to unmount all mounted filesystems, even those mounted "interactively" (i.e. not listed in /etc/fstab)? I ask because I managed to embarass myself during a trial install of FreeBSDS-5.3RC1 (my first outing with FreeBSD, though I've too many years with HP-UX, Debian, RedHat, and recently OpenBSD). I'd mounted an ext3 partition for a quick bit of editing (that's where my grub config files were), using the built-in ext2fs. In cavalier mode, once I'd made the edits I wanted, I incanted "shutdown -r now", as you do. In its last dying moments, the FreeBSD kernel spat out a message along the lines of "flushing vnodes: 1 1 1 ... 1 1 1 giving up on 1 buffer" (sorry, I didn't write the msg down, and am reconstructing from a dangerous combination of memory and Googling for 'the sort of thing FreeBSD says as it shuts down' ;-). It seems reprodicible - when I umount'ed the ext3 partition manually another time, no buffers were Given Up on, and the next time I forgot I hosed myself again. (Happily the Fedora fsck didn't seem to think the partition was beyond repair ;-). If this is simply luser error, tell me so and I'll go away a sadder if not a wiser man. If, though, the intention is that "shutdown" should cleanly dismount all FSen, regardless of their presence in /etc/fstab, tell me so and I'll spend a little time (but prolly not till next week; apologies) characterising the circumstances more closely. (E.g.: I note from Googling around that there was a reported bug in the same vague area when a read-only floppy was mounted; I may well have had a CD-ROM mounted at the same time, which is inherently read-only (d'oh). But I thought I'd better ask first what the shutdown behaviour is *intended* to be...) Thanks, Stefek From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 28 19:02:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C00C116A4CE for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:02:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.intradyn.com (ip67-95-33-115.z33-95-67.customer.algx.net [67.95.33.115]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DA0943D48 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:02:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hmiller@intradyn.com) Received: from gamma (124-240-168-192.hq.intradyn.com [192.168.240.124] (may be forged)) by mail.intradyn.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id i9SJ2Fer013618; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 14:02:15 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from hmiller@intradyn.com) Message-ID: <200410281403280734.06350AB4@mail.intradyn.com> In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.2.20041028102537.04be6ec0@nano.net> References: <6.0.3.0.2.20041028102537.04be6ec0@nano.net> X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.30.00.00 (4) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 14:03:28 -0500 From: "Henry Miller" To: "Steve Suhre" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Re: Hacker activity? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:02:19 -0000 On 10/28/2004 at 10:39 Steve Suhre wrote: >I'm not sure if this is the correct group...but I'm getting some weird >activity on the network. The security reports will show 50-100 attempts to >login to a server, most as root but some are attempts to login to other >seemingly random account names. The login attempts are through ssh or >telnet, all come from the same remote server, and all fail. I'm also >getting some odd cgi calls to a script on a secure ssl server. There's >nothing that this particular script could do for a hacker, but the script >is sent a random string, sometimes many times a minute, other times it's >every 2 -3 minutes. I grabbed the ip address and blocked it, and about 10 >minutes later it had moved to another ip. I'm now blocking a range of >ip's. >These don't seem like enough iterations to be very successful, the odds >are >overwhelmingly in favor of the server at this rate... Does anyone have a >clue what might be happening or where I should go to find out? First, the term is cracker. Hackers are the good guys. (I know, I know, nobody else cares) There are two possibilities: an honest person has mistyped something and is connecting to your machine instead of one he has access to; or a dishonest person is trying to break into your computer. I'd bet on the latter, nobody accidently sends random strings to a cgi script. Often a script is running, attempting every computer on the Internet, or every interesting one. (It takes too long to try 4 billion addresses, when most don't have a machine behind them so they try machines that are more interesting) They may or may not be targeting you in particular, often they are just looking for any machine they can get into, meaning your not the only one they are going after. Here are some things you can try, in addition to what you have done. Not all of them will apply though, think about each. Take an old line printer out of the closet and have syslog log to that. This gives you are hard copy of what is happening. If someone does break into your system, one of their first tasks will be falsify the logs so you don't know it. They can't modify something that has been printed to paper though. Consider logging to a different machine on your network as well. In addition to blocking that address, see who owns the net block. If it is a responsible ISP and you send logs to the right person, you can sometimes solve this problem. It doesn't work often, but it sometimes helps. If nothing else it is harmless. If it looks like this is in the same country as you, or at least a country that is "friendly" to yours, you might ask a lawyer to get a cease and desist order. It is unlikely you can ever make this worth the cost, but keep it in mind. Make sure root cannot login to your system via ssh. This is the default in FreeBSD, but try to ssh into your machine as root, correct password, just to make sure. Read all the security advisories on www.freebsd.org (there are other places to get these too, some are better), and make sure your system is patched for them all. Do a security audit of that cgi script. Remember, better find nothing, than not do it and find there is a buffer overflow attack. Their goal isn't to get the script to do anything, it is to get your system to run their code in place of the script. These attacks are fairly complex, but effective. Ideally run your webserver in a Jail, but that can't always be done. Turn off telnet if you can. Nearly everything has an ssh client nowadays, so this normally isn't a problem. Basiclly what I'm suggesting is a combination of double checking the security on your machine, and trying to get them cut off. There is no One last idea: look up honeypot on google. You might want to run one yourself just to get an idea of what they are trying to do. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 28 19:04:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C60616A4CE for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:04:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDF9843D1D for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:04:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from 209-6-197-67.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com ([209.6.197.67] helo=jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42 #5) id 1CNFZy-0004Xy-2o for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 15:04:58 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16769.17111.336229.474221@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 15:04:55 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <99FE86B08AAB034AA33325827D700CE203D4C5@exch1.nfmwe.com> References: <99FE86B08AAB034AA33325827D700CE203D4C5@exch1.nfmwe.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta16) "celeriac" XEmacs Lucid Subject: RE: Is anyone running Novells eDirectory on Freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:04:59 -0000 Paul Hillen writes: > No answers I guess means either it is a stupid question or a > definite NO. Not a stupid question but .... I am omly familiar with NDS, not eDirectory (my last CNE cert was for NetWare 5), but given the nature of the beast I would be quite croggled if it even came close to working without a FreeBSD-native Novell-created/maintained version. (Not that would ba a bad thing - I love(d) NDS - I I don't see it on the web site and doubt Novell sees enough market of justify the expense.) Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 28 19:12:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8113D16A4CE for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:12:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lilzmailso01.liwest.at (lilzmailso01.liwest.at [212.33.55.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4F8443D1D for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:12:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dgw@liwest.at) Received: from cm248-230.liwest.at ([81.10.248.230]) by lilzmailso01.liwest.at with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1CNFhW-0001N2-VK for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:12:46 +0200 From: Daniela To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:13:34 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410282113.34529.dgw@liwest.at> Subject: Strange file appeared in my home directory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: dgw@liwest.at List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:12:39 -0000 I noticed a file called "regs" in my home directory (which is 21 megs in size) and I have no clue where it comes from. The file format is not recognized by any of the common tools. The creation date was about four days ago, so if I created it, I would have remembered. I looked at the file with the hexeditor and it seems to consist of lots of four-byte values which look like addresses on the stack of an application. About half an hour before the creation date there were numerous failed login attempts on the SSH port (all from the same IP), but my logs didn't show any signs of an intrusion. However, I suspect that I've been hacked. There was another strange occurence: Yesterday my internet connection went down without a particular reason. I tested a few other configurations and rebooted multiple times, and after the fifth reboot (with the usual settings restored) it suddenly worked again. There seem to be no unusual processes running, but when I'm hacked, I can't trust the tools on my system any more. Also there were quite a few crashes. Has anyone seen this file too? In case anyone wants to know, the offending IP was 200.84.78.83. Regards, Daniela From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 28 19:15:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA45E16A4CE for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:15:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from tiny.smallweb.com (smallweb.com [216.85.125.110]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BF8D43D31 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:15:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from steve@Antero.com) Received: from silver.Antero.com (silver.nano.net [216.85.125.13]) by tiny.smallweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9SJGRql027159; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 13:16:27 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <6.0.3.0.2.20041028124740.03d9f700@nano.net> X-Sender: antero@nano.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.3.0 Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 13:13:14 -0600 To: Vulpes Velox From: Steve Suhre In-Reply-To: <20041028133250.77c30503@vixen42.24-119-122-191.cpe.cableon e.net> References: <6.0.3.0.2.20041028102537.04be6ec0@nano.net> <20041028133250.77c30503@vixen42.24-119-122-191.cpe.cableone.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hacker activity? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:15:15 -0000 Thanks. Right now I'm blocking 66.249.6*.* on the secure server for the cgi script and haven't seen anything for a couple hours. The other intruder is a little slicker and moves around quite a bit. My interest is in the frequency, or lack thereof. Do they attack many sites at once, like spam, hoping to hit on a server that has a dictionary password? Rather than pound one server with all they've got? Distributed hacking? I can't think of another reason why someone would even try to hack into a server by logging in 50-100 times once or twice a week. You can't get root through anything but the console and 50-100 attempts don't cover a lot of password ground on the other accounts, most of which are locked down against shell access anyway.... I'm not really concerned about the activity, it would take eons to hack into anything this way. I'm wondering if there's something going on that I don't know, maybe this is a smoke screen to divert attention from the real threat? It doesn't make a lot of sense.... At 12:32 PM 10/28/2004, Vulpes Velox wrote: >On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 10:39:32 -0600 >Steve Suhre wrote: > > > > > > > I'm not sure if this is the correct group...but I'm getting some > > weird activity on the network. The security reports will show 50-100 > > attempts to login to a server, most as root but some are attempts to > > login to other seemingly random account names. The login attempts > > are through ssh or telnet, all come from the same remote server, and > > all fail. I'm also getting some odd cgi calls to a script on a > > secure ssl server. There's nothing that this particular script could > > do for a hacker, but the script is sent a random string, sometimes > > many times a minute, other times it's every 2 -3 minutes. I grabbed > > the ip address and blocked it, and about 10 minutes later it had > > moved to another ip. I'm now blocking a range of ip's. These don't > > seem like enough iterations to be very successful, the odds are > > overwhelmingly in favor of the server at this rate... Does anyone > > have a clue what might be happening or where I should go to find > > out? > >If it all from a common subnet, I would block it. I would then whois >to see who if there is a abuse addy I could complain to or the like. > >Also man login.conf. > >Sounds like some jerk singled you out is is possibly is trying it all >on a subnet. Back in before moving stuff off common ports, I would get >massive amounts of that crap. It was basically ppl trying any thing in >the colleges address space. --- Steve Suhre Antero web technologies 719.634.8161 steve@Antero.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 28 19:34:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACD8916A4CE for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:34:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBF5543D39 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:34:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from crumley@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 65so564711wri for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 12:34:33 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=bW39T3Eg0foub67dG85TrSuKw4wdtc5xV/oMMRs5EQHPp24X3C4egYCH6j74Oqcz4W4PpzghfTy2PqL80xXMFLw6yX3M4g4kkb/xGq8N+ZitcIf0ql4Stc2le9n7HwUvAkz1Vno6vyUXeR/rRCLv6zoHoP0zW+lxT34zfwQdQMs= Received: by 10.38.218.39 with SMTP id q39mr1538197rng; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 12:34:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.181.73 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 12:34:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 14:34:32 -0500 From: Ryan Crumley To: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: Subject: Re: Unable to mount ufs drive after changing drive order X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ryan Crumley List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:34:57 -0000 SOLVED. I removed all entries in fstab except my root and swap. Then removed the entries for the swapped drives from /dev... and rebooted. Once the machine came back up I was able to run fsck on the drives with their new numbers and mount them without issue (using the same commands as I had tried earlier). Not sure why this worked but I am happy to get my data back. Hope this helps someone. On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:18:59 -0500, Ryan Crumley wrote: > I have a FreeBSD 4.9 machine (i386) with 3 hard drives in it. I > installed a 4th hard drive and booted the system however this changed > the drive numbers (expected since I rearranged their connection order) > and fstab refered to the wrong drives so the only drive that was able > to be mounted was the root drive. [see the end of the message for > dmesg output, fdisk output, and fstab info] > > I looked at my dmesg output and figured out the mapping between the > old drive numbers and the new numbers and tried issueing the command: > > mount -t ufs /dev/ad5s1c /mnt > > (this drive used to be ad6 but is now ad5, fstab reads /dev/ad6s1c) > > and instead of mounting the hard drive on /mnt I get the following error: > > mount: /dev/ad5s1c: Device not configured > > So I thought maybe I am confused and this drive is not ad5, maybe its > ad6 or ad7... So I tried the same mount command and got: > > mount: /dev/ad6s1c: Operation not permitted > mount: /dev/ad7s1c: Operation not permitted > > (Either ad5 or ad6 is blank, it is hard for me to tell for sure since > they are both the same model of hard drive however I am pretty sure > its ad6 that is blank. ad5 and ad7 were both mountable before > installing the new hard drive). > > Next I tried: > > cd /dev > rm ad5* ad6* ad7* > sh MAKEDEV ad5 ad6 ad7 > > and then tried mounting the drives as described above with the same results. > > At this point I am not sure what to do. Can someone point me in the > right direction? > > Here is my hardware configuration: > Computer: > k6-3 400mghz > 296mb of ram > HighPoint HPT370 Raid Controller (motherboard doesn't support ata100 > drives so I have a pci card that all the drives plug into) > > ide connection: > all drives are set to cable select and connected to the raid > controller card via two cables (so on each channel there is a master > and a slave). > > here is some output from dmesg: > > atapci1: port 0xb800-0xb8ff,0xb400-0xb403,0 > xb000-0xb007,0xac00-0xac03,0xa800-0xa807 irq 10 at device 9.0 on pci0 > ata2: at 0xa800 on atapci1 > ata3: at 0xb000 on atapci1 > [...] > ad4: 156334MB [317632/16/63] at ata2-master UDMA100 > ad5: 190782MB [387621/16/63] at ata2-slave UDMA100 > ad6: 190782MB [387621/16/63] at ata3-master UDMA100 > ad7: 76319MB [155061/16/63] at ata3-slave UDMA100 > Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad4s2a > > ad4 = root hard drive > ad5 = old ad6 > ad6 = blank hard drive > ad7 = old ad5 > > It is possible that I have ad5 and ad6 confused since they are the > same model of drive however I am pretty sure ad6 is the blank one. > > Now for some fdisk output: > ~$ fdisk /dev/ad5 > ******* Working on device /dev/ad5 ******* > parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: > cylinders=387621 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl) > > Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 > parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: > cylinders=387621 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl) > > fdisk: invalid fdisk partition table found > Media sector size is 512 > Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 > Information from DOS bootblock is: > The data for partition 1 is: > > The data for partition 2 is: > > The data for partition 3 is: > > The data for partition 4 is: > sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) > start 63, size 390721905 (190782 Meg), flag 80 (active) > beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1; > end: cyl 548/ head 15/ sector 63 > > ~$ fdisk /dev/ad6 > ******* Working on device /dev/ad6 ******* > parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: > cylinders=387621 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl) > > Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 > parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: > cylinders=387621 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl) > > Media sector size is 512 > Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 > Information from DOS bootblock is: > The data for partition 1 is: > sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) > start 63, size 390721905 (190782 Meg), flag 80 (active) > beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1; > end: cyl 548/ head 15/ sector 63 > The data for partition 2 is: > > The data for partition 3 is: > > The data for partition 4 is: > > > ~$ fdisk /dev/ad7 > ******* Working on device /dev/ad7 ******* > parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: > cylinders=165398 heads=15 sectors/track=63 (945 blks/cyl) > > Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 > parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: > cylinders=165398 heads=15 sectors/track=63 (945 blks/cyl) > > Media sector size is 512 > Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 > Information from DOS bootblock is: > The data for partition 1 is: > sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) > start 63, size 156301047 (76318 Meg), flag 80 (active) > beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1; > end: cyl 533/ head 14/ sector 63 > The data for partition 2 is: > > The data for partition 3 is: > > The data for partition 4 is: > > > ~$ cat /etc/fstab > # See the fstab(5) manual page for important information on automatic mounts > # of network filesystems before modifying this file. > # > # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass# > /dev/ad4s1b none swap sw 0 0 > /dev/ad4s2a / ufs rw 1 1 > #/dev/ad6s1c /1 ufs rw 1 1 > #/dev/ad5s1c /2 ufs rw 1 1 > > (I have commented out the drive drives that are not mounting due to > their drive numbers changing, this worked before rearranging the disks > and installing a new disk). > > Thanks! > > ryan > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 28 19:35:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80E7016A4E3 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:35:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9DB2C43D31 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:35:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krylon@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 7605 invoked by uid 65534); 28 Oct 2004 19:35:44 -0000 Received: from i53875882.versanet.de (EHLO [192.168.0.13]) (83.135.88.130) by mail.gmx.net (mp010) with SMTP; 28 Oct 2004 21:35:44 +0200 X-Authenticated: #685629 Message-ID: <41814A0F.7050909@gmx.net> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:35:43 +0200 From: Benjamin Walkenhorst User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (X11/20041025) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dgw@liwest.at References: <200410282113.34529.dgw@liwest.at> In-Reply-To: <200410282113.34529.dgw@liwest.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Strange file appeared in my home directory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:35:46 -0000 Hello, Daniela wrote: >I noticed a file called "regs" in my home directory (which is 21 megs in size) >and I have no clue where it comes from. The file format is not recognized by >any of the common tools. The creation date was about four days ago, so if I >created it, I would have remembered. >I looked at the file with the hexeditor and it seems to consist of lots of >four-byte values which look like addresses on the stack of an application. > > I've never heard of such a thing happening... >About half an hour before the creation date there were numerous failed login >attempts on the SSH port (all from the same IP), but my logs didn't show any >signs of an intrusion. >However, I suspect that I've been hacked. > Well, /if/ someone intruded your system, she/he surely would remove all possible evidence (unless it's someone *really* stupid). If your machine was compromised, I suggest, you take it offline *now* and inspect it thoroughly. There is a piece of software called "The Coroner's Toolkit" (TCK) which I think is made for that. More easily, you can checksum your system files and compare them with a clean install. If you have recent backups, you can use these at well. If you are afraid a rootkit might have been installed - I don't know if these exist for FreeBSD, but I wouldn't be surprised... - you should consider booting from trusted media and inspecting the system, since sometimes root kits hide the intruder's files (at least for systems like Linux and Solaris, but again, I don't think FreeBSD will be much different in that regard). >There was another strange occurence: >Yesterday my internet connection went down without a particular reason. >I tested a few other configurations and rebooted multiple times, and after the >fifth reboot (with the usual settings restored) it suddenly worked again. > > Mmmh. Maybe your provider just had some problem... Who knows? >Also there were quite a few crashes. > > Unless you have a static IP, it would be quite hard for the intruder to get in again. (OTOH, I don't think it would be hard to make a system send a message to the internet upon connection) Also, I suggest to look through your hardware - I had lots of crashes for some time, till I replaced my power supply. Now my machine runs like a champ. =) >In case anyone wants to know, the offending IP was 200.84.78.83. > > If it was a dial-up connection, that doesn't mean anything. Maybe it's also a machine that's already compromised. Before you start wearing a foil-hat, remember that all of the above only applies if your system was indeed compromised (how I /love/ that word, it sounds so serious...). It is after all still posibble that it's just... I don't know... something really weird. Sometimes applications will create such things for no apparent reason (from a users point of view at least). Of course, this would be unusual, but not impossible. Still, if you have security-concerns, I suggest you take the box offline and examine it. As a side-effect, this is probably very interesting. I wish you good luck (and that your system be still intact)! Kind regards, Benjamin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 28 19:36:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04EC316A4CE for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:36:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6D7843D3F for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:36:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) i9SJaf8n047108 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:36:41 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)i9SJaeAe047107; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:36:40 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:36:39 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: Steve Suhre Message-ID: <20041028193639.GA46862@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , Steve Suhre , Vulpes Velox , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <6.0.3.0.2.20041028102537.04be6ec0@nano.net> <20041028133250.77c30503@vixen42.24-119-122-191.cpe.cableone.net> <6.0.3.0.2.20041028124740.03d9f700@nano.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="wac7ysb48OaltWcw" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.2.20041028124740.03d9f700@nano.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.5.6 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:36:41 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040904, clamav-milter version 0.75l on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk cc: Vulpes Velox cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hacker activity? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:36:55 -0000 --wac7ysb48OaltWcw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Oct 28, 2004 at 01:13:14PM -0600, Steve Suhre wrote: > Thanks. Right now I'm blocking 66.249.6*.* on the secure server for the c= gi=20 > script and haven't seen anything for a couple hours. The other intruder i= s=20 > a little slicker and moves around quite a bit. My interest is in the=20 > frequency, or lack thereof. Do they attack many sites at once, like spam,= =20 > hoping to hit on a server that has a dictionary password? Rather than pou= nd=20 > one server with all they've got? Distributed hacking? I can't think of=20 > another reason why someone would even try to hack into a server by loggin= g=20 > in 50-100 times once or twice a week. You can't get root through anything= =20 > but the console and 50-100 attempts don't cover a lot of password ground = on=20 > the other accounts, most of which are locked down against shell access=20 > anyway.... I'm not really concerned about the activity, it would take eon= s=20 > to hack into anything this way. I'm wondering if there's something going = on=20 > that I don't know, maybe this is a smoke screen to divert attention from= =20 > the real threat? It doesn't make a lot of sense.... It's an automated attack -- just a script run by some kiddie that searches the IP address space to find and break into Linux servers. It finds systems that respond on port 22 and then tries to guess a number of account/password combinations. I believe the vast majority of scans originate from the far east, as do the vast majority of compromised boxes -- something to do with a Linux distro popular out there that had a bunch of unsecured accounts in its default install. It's neither efficient nor cleverly implemented. If you've got good passwords in place for all your user accounts , or you require people to use key based auth to log in, or you move the port sshd listens on, then the scans won't be able to hurt you. Switching to exclusive use of key based auth is what I'd choose -- once you've got the keys set up then it's not at all intrusive. Plus you can use the ssh-agent(1) to hold your keys in memory, which means you don't have to keep reentering the pass phrase each time you ssh into a new machine, even several hops away. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --wac7ysb48OaltWcw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBgUpHiD657aJF7eIRAnFVAJ46SxCO5cC9PfKlwLeVy6jMgEZJpQCgixP1 xNYccmFBkzvH4gUDvi3sLlo= =gTzf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --wac7ysb48OaltWcw-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 28 19:44:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FF8516A4CE for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:44:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mindfields.energyhq.es.eu.org (73.Red-213-97-200.pooles.rima-tde.net [213.97.200.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0AC443D58 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:43:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from flynn@energyhq.es.eu.org) Received: from scienide.energyhq.es.eu.org (scienide.energyhq.es.eu.org [192.168.100.1]) by mindfields.energyhq.es.eu.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F3D9734FEE; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:43:25 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:44:43 +0200 From: Miguel Mendez To: dgw@liwest.at Message-Id: <20041028214443.2694d707.flynn@energyhq.es.eu.org> In-Reply-To: <200410282113.34529.dgw@liwest.at> References: <200410282113.34529.dgw@liwest.at> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.12-gtk2-20040918 (GTK+ 2.4.9; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="pgp-sha1"; boundary="Signature=_Thu__28_Oct_2004_21_44_43_+0200_Ru1m_sQLZt+Rkf0R" cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Strange file appeared in my home directory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:44:09 -0000 --Signature=_Thu__28_Oct_2004_21_44_43_+0200_Ru1m_sQLZt+Rkf0R Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:13:34 +0000 Daniela wrote: Hi, > I noticed a file called "regs" in my home directory (which is 21 megs > in size) and I have no clue where it comes from. The file format is > not recognized by any of the common tools. The creation date was about > four days ago, so if I created it, I would have remembered. I've never seen such file, my guess is that anyone breaking into someone else's computer would hide his stuff, but you never know. Google didn't turn any useful hit either. With this and the rest of your post I have reasons to believe that you haven't been broken into. However, if you're suspicious you could back up the 'evidence', in this case the regs file and other unsual stuff you might find, wipe the system out and reinstall and restore date from a good backup. > I looked at the file with the hexeditor and it seems to consist of > lots of four-byte values which look like addresses on the stack of an > application. What do those values look like? > About half an hour before the creation date there were numerous failed > login attempts on the SSH port (all from the same IP), but my logs > didn't show any signs of an intrusion. The ssh scans seem to be common. There's an automated tool out there with a hardcoded weak name/pass list. My suggestion for that is, if you only need ssh access from specific places setup a firewall rule to allow only those IP addresses. > However, I suspect that I've been hacked. There was another strange > occurence: Yesterday my internet connection went down without a > particular reason. I tested a few other configurations and rebooted > multiple times, and after the fifth reboot (with the usual settings > restored) it suddenly worked again. There seem to be no unusual > processes running, but when I'm hacked, I can't trust the tools on my > system any more. Also there were quite a few crashes. Do you run any services on that box besides ssh? Apache/Sendmail/Whathaveyou? Anything unusual in the logs? > Has anyone seen this file too? > In case anyone wants to know, the offending IP was 200.84.78.83. That IP resolves to 200-84-78-83.genericrev.cantv.net, either a compromised Windows box or a script-kiddiot computer, too lazy to nmap it now :) Cheers, -- Miguel Mendez http://www.energyhq.es.eu.org PGP Key: 0xDC8514F1 Note: All HTML mail goes to /dev/null --Signature=_Thu__28_Oct_2004_21_44_43_+0200_Ru1m_sQLZt+Rkf0R Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBgUwunLctrNyFFPERAmZ8AKC0NvFtD+lfMIZZ58LJjj8B/3OcYgCeJHVV NhBWiQQzPl5CPBCwjJsVjoQ= =JFkf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Thu__28_Oct_2004_21_44_43_+0200_Ru1m_sQLZt+Rkf0R-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 28 19:55:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1930A16A4CE for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:55:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from floyd.gnulife.org (floyd.gnulife.org [199.86.41.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84F0843D54 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:55:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jamie@gnulife.org) Received: from floyd.gnulife.org (localhost.gnulife.org [127.0.0.1]) by floyd.gnulife.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i9SJsdld030711 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 14:54:39 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jamie@gnulife.org) Received: from localhost (jamie@localhost)i9SJsdHD030708 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 14:54:39 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jamie@gnulife.org) X-Authentication-Warning: floyd.gnulife.org: jamie owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 14:54:39 -0500 (CDT) From: Jamie Ostrowski To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20041028120141.X28732@floyd.gnulife.org> Message-ID: <20041028145243.X30687@floyd.gnulife.org> References: <20041028120141.X28732@floyd.gnulife.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: make buildworld failing [ SOLVED ] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:55:03 -0000 On Thu, 28 Oct 2004, Jamie wrote: > > > > I am upgrading my system from 4.4 REL to 4.10 REL. I cvsupped my > source tree over, and after I've got the new source tree, when I go to run > make buildworld, it compiles for quite a while, but then eventually it > fails: > > > > objcopy -S -O binary boot2.out boot2.bin > btxld -v -E 0x1000 -f bin -b > /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/boot/i386/boot2/../btx/btx/btx -l boot2.ldr -o > boot2.ld -P 1 boot2.bin > btxld: /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/boot/i386/boot2/../btx/btx/btx: Not a BTX > kernel > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/boot2. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/sys/boot/i386. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/sys/boot. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/sys. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > > > > I scratched my head, and then ran 'make cleandir' a couple of times. > Then I tried make buildworld again, and the same error comes up. I suppose > I could try pulling down the whole source tree again, maybe a file is > truncated, but before I do that, I wonder if anyone else may have anything > I can try. Thanks, > > > - Jamie > As it turns out, the path to the m4 compiler was in /usr/local/bin/. Creating a link from /usr/bin/m4 to /usr/local/bin/m4 solved the problem. - Jamie > > > > > > > The Moon is Full > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > The Moon is Waning Gibbous (100% of Full) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 28 20:26:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8F4016A4CE for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:26:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from falla.videotron.net (falla.videotron.net [205.151.222.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A37943D1D for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:26:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from JFBourque@soleica.ca) Received: from jupiter.soleica.ca ([69.70.8.115]) sims.3.5.2000.03.23.18.03.p10)freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:26:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from JF ([69.70.8.115]) by jupiter.soleica.ca with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:27:39 -0400 Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:26:40 -0400 From: Jean-Francois Bourque To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcS9LG5zHjFAIcOIQASd7/HgKt/qDQ== X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Oct 2004 20:27:39.0281 (UTC) FILETIME=[91A31010:01C4BD2C] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Using current port collection on a stable box X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:26:44 -0000 Hi, I want to know if it is possible to use the current port collection (to get the latest software versions) on a stable version FreeBSD (like 4.10)? Thank you, Jean-Francois Bourque | Technical Support | www.soleica.ca 116-1, avenue Laurier / Montreal, Quebec, H2T 2N7 tel: (514) 495-0373 | cel: (514) 794-5066 | fax: (514) 495-6570 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 28 20:33:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E550516A4CE for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:33:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-m28.mx.aol.com (imo-m28.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8861A43D45 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:33:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from TM4525@aol.com) Received: from TM4525@aol.com by imo-m28.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id v.c.36ac8de1 (4320); Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:33:09 -0400 (EDT) From: TM4525@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:33:08 EDT To: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5114 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Development Resources X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:33:17 -0000 In a message dated 10/28/04 2:49:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, keramida@ceid.upatras.gr writes: >> Listen pal, there's are reason this stuff is free; figure it out for yourself! >Dear troll, I notice that you conveniently omitted the smiley, you uptight loser. Relax a bit and get off the sauce. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 28 20:38:05 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB1F516A4CE for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:38:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.mi.is (smtp.mi.is [217.151.180.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27C0143D45 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:38:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from thib@mi.is) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (thib.pentagon.ms [217.151.165.254]) by smtp.mi.is (8.12.10/8.12.10/1.0.1) with ESMTP id i9SKc4nF020717 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:38:04 GMT Message-ID: <4130ED88.8070200@mi.is> From: "Thordur I." User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Software or hardware RAID1. (gstripe) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:38:05 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 20:39:36 +0000 X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:38:05 -0000 First to thank for the replys. They have been very helpful. Second, s/gstripe/gmirror I was reading the gstripe man page just minutes before I wrote the email ;) I think I will go for a hardware raid controler (RAID5 sounds good, but my budget doesn´t really allow me to buy 2x new disks ;). Btw. What hardware raid controlers (sata) do you listmembers recommend ? I have read some positive things about the 3ware 9xxx and 8xxx series (a thread on -stable) I think I will go for that one. Any comments on the command-to-stuff thing wich the 3ware card have (what is it called ?) Anyhow, this has been very helpful I wish to thank you again. With kind regards, Thordur I. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 28 20:38:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE06E16A4CE for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:38:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F9BD43D2F for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:38:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 28 Oct 2004 15:34:48 -0500 Message-ID: <418158BF.2060202@daleco.biz> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 15:38:23 -0500 From: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041023 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vulpes Velox References: <6.0.3.0.2.20041028102537.04be6ec0@nano.net> <20041028133250.77c30503@vixen42.24-119-122-191.cpe.cableone.net> In-Reply-To: <20041028133250.77c30503@vixen42.24-119-122-191.cpe.cableone.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Oct 2004 20:34:49.0529 (UTC) FILETIME=[9215B290:01C4BD2D] cc: Steve Suhre cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hacker activity? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:38:30 -0000 Vulpes Velox wrote: >On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 10:39:32 -0600 >Steve Suhre wrote: > > > >>I'm not sure if this is the correct group...but I'm getting some >>weird activity on the network. The security reports will show 50-100 >>attempts to login to a server, most as root but some are attempts to >>login to other seemingly random account names. The login attempts >>are through ssh or telnet, all come from the same remote server, and >>all fail. I'm also getting some odd cgi calls to a script on a >>secure ssl server. There's nothing that this particular script could >>do for a hacker, but the script is sent a random string, sometimes >>many times a minute, other times it's every 2 -3 minutes. I grabbed >>the ip address and blocked it, and about 10 minutes later it had >>moved to another ip. I'm now blocking a range of ip's. These don't >>seem like enough iterations to be very successful, the odds are >>overwhelmingly in favor of the server at this rate... Does anyone >>have a clue what might be happening or where I should go to find >>out? >> >> > >If it all from a common subnet, I would block it. I would then whois >to see who if there is a abuse addy I could complain to or the like. > >Also man login.conf. > >Sounds like some jerk singled you out is is possibly is trying it all >on a subnet. Back in before moving stuff off common ports, I would get >massive amounts of that crap. It was basically ppl trying any thing in >the colleges address space. > > Since you didn't show a log, Steve, I'm wondering if it looks something like this: auth.log:Oct 11 00:23:29 foobox sshd[44542]: Failed password for root from 61.100.12.92 port 35161 ssh2 auth.log:Oct 11 00:23:31 foobox sshd[44544]: Failed password for root from 61.100.12.92 port 35193 ssh2 auth.log:Oct 11 00:23:34 foobox sshd[44546]: Failed password for root from 61.100.12.92 port 35228 ssh2 auth.log:Oct 11 00:23:36 foobox sshd[44548]: Failed password for root from 61.100.12.92 port 35270 ssh2 auth.log:Oct 11 00:23:39 foobox sshd[44550]: Failed password for root from 61.100.12.92 port 35309 ssh2 auth.log:Oct 12 01:50:12 foobox sshd[46231]: Illegal user test from 203.212.4.173 auth.log:Oct 12 01:50:15 foobox sshd[46233]: Illegal user guest from 203.212.4.173 auth.log:Oct 12 01:50:17 foobox sshd[46235]: Illegal user admin from 203.212.4.173 auth.log:Oct 12 01:50:19 foobox sshd[46237]: Illegal user admin from 203.212.4.173 auth.log:Oct 12 01:50:22 foobox sshd[46239]: Illegal user user from 203.212.4.173 auth.log:Oct 12 01:50:24 foobox sshd[46241]: Failed password for root from 203.212.4.173 port 55657 ssh2 auth.log:Oct 12 01:50:27 foobox sshd[46243]: Failed password for root from 203.212.4.173 port 55696 ssh2 auth.log:Oct 12 01:50:29 foobox sshd[46245]: Failed password for root from 203.212.4.173 port 55734 ssh2 auth.log:Oct 12 01:50:32 foobox sshd[46247]: Illegal user test from 203.212.4.173 I think this has been discussed at some length on security@. Automated scripts from compromised machines are banging away at whatever addresses they can find a telnet or ssh port open on, looking for people who use "foo" or "candy" as their passwords .... For starters, use good passwords if you use passwords at all. Probably you should be using key-based authentication, or something beefy like that (I know nothing of Kerberos, for example, but it might be a possibility ... ) You can certainly set some things in your sshd_config (AllowUsers and AllowGroups have been discussed) and there is that note in /etc/hosts.allow: "wrapping sshd isn't a good idea ...", but I do it on all my boxes except one. I'm usually on a known subnet, there are no other administrators or remote users, and in the rare instance when I'm on a box with a "not allowed" address, I connect to my other boxes through the one ... I guess the next step, then, would be scripting something to parse and delete this crap from the logs ... Kevin Kinsey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 28 20:41:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B9D516A4CE for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:41:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cqgigw.cqg.com (cqgigw.cqg.com [208.48.16.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2188643D5D for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:41:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tomc@cqg.com) Received: from cqgmail.cqg.com (int.cqg.com [96.0.0.2])i9SKftAk000541 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 14:41:55 -0600 Received: from d3stomc ([192.168.17.154]) by cqgmail.cqg.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i9SKfmfd031710 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 14:41:48 -0600 From: "Tom Connolly" To: "FreeBSD_Questions" Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 14:41:48 -0600 Message-ID: <016901c4bd2e$8c08aaa0$9a11a8c0@d3stomc> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.181 Importance: Normal X-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam (whitelisted), SpamAssassin (score=0.475, required 3, HTML_40_50 0.47, HTML_MESSAGE 0.00) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: gtksourceview-sharp and FreeBSD 5.3 RC1? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:41:57 -0000 Hello list, I tried asking this question on the MonoDevelop list but they tell me to ask on the FreeBSD list so I figured questions was the best place. =20 Has anyone had any luck installing gtksourceview-sharp on FreeBSD? I've successfully installed mono, monodoc, gtksharp but the gtksourceview-sharp 0.5 build fails with the following error: =20 Assertion failed: (lu ->lu_myreq = ->lr_owner=3D=3Dlu),function_lock_acquire, file /usr/src/lib/libpthread/sys/lock.c, line 171 Abort trap (core dumped) *** Error code 134 =20 If there is a better list to ask on, please let me know and I will ask there. Thanks for the Help Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 28 20:46:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F39AE16A4CE for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:46:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE1C543D31 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:46:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1C2ED511A7; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 13:48:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 13:48:09 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Jean-Francois Bourque Message-ID: <20041028204808.GA1457@xor.obsecurity.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Using current port collection on a stable box X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:46:55 -0000 --vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Oct 28, 2004 at 04:26:40PM -0400, Jean-Francois Bourque wrote: > Hi, >=20 > =20 >=20 > I want to know if it is possible to use the current port collection (to g= et > the latest software versions) on a stable version FreeBSD (like 4.10)? Yes, see www.freebsd.org/ports for information about supported versions. Kris --vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBgVsIWry0BWjoQKURAq7nAKD5J8o/sll98trdq4ZfaJXuq1lc8QCeMlOc qrhPfBbKOifEcmMQUV2Z2tE= =8Slu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 28 20:50:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2162916A4CE for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:50:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from tiny.smallweb.com (smallweb.com [216.85.125.110]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C012B43D55 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:50:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from steve@Antero.com) Received: from silver.Antero.com (silver.nano.net [216.85.125.13]) by tiny.smallweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9SKpEql029707; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 14:51:14 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <6.0.3.0.2.20041028144313.04baeec0@nano.net> X-Sender: antero@nano.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.3.0 Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 14:48:01 -0600 To: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." , Vulpes Velox From: Steve Suhre In-Reply-To: <418158BF.2060202@daleco.biz> References: <6.0.3.0.2.20041028102537.04be6ec0@nano.net> <20041028133250.77c30503@vixen42.24-119-122-191.cpe.cableone.net> <418158BF.2060202@daleco.biz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hacker activity? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:50:03 -0000 Thanks, the log looks similar, except that they don't use foo, they use common names and mostly root. We have the servers secured, but it didn't seem like the method they were using had any chance of success, so I was confused... I think the key is that they're surfing for servers with bad security habits. Thanks for your help! At 02:38 PM 10/28/2004, Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. wrote: >Vulpes Velox wrote: > >>On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 10:39:32 -0600 >>Steve Suhre wrote: >> >> >> >>>I'm not sure if this is the correct group...but I'm getting some >>>weird activity on the network. The security reports will show 50-100 >>>attempts to login to a server, most as root but some are attempts to >>>login to other seemingly random account names. The login attempts >>>are through ssh or telnet, all come from the same remote server, and >>>all fail. I'm also getting some odd cgi calls to a script on a >>>secure ssl server. There's nothing that this particular script could >>>do for a hacker, but the script is sent a random string, sometimes >>>many times a minute, other times it's every 2 -3 minutes. I grabbed >>>the ip address and blocked it, and about 10 minutes later it had >>>moved to another ip. I'm now blocking a range of ip's. These don't >>>seem like enough iterations to be very successful, the odds are >>>overwhelmingly in favor of the server at this rate... Does anyone >>>have a clue what might be happening or where I should go to find >>>out? >>> >> >>If it all from a common subnet, I would block it. I would then whois >>to see who if there is a abuse addy I could complain to or the like. >> >>Also man login.conf. >> >>Sounds like some jerk singled you out is is possibly is trying it all >>on a subnet. Back in before moving stuff off common ports, I would get >>massive amounts of that crap. It was basically ppl trying any thing in >>the colleges address space. >> > >Since you didn't show a log, Steve, I'm wondering if it looks something >like this: > >auth.log:Oct 11 00:23:29 foobox sshd[44542]: Failed password for root from >61.100.12.92 port 35161 ssh2 >auth.log:Oct 11 00:23:31 foobox sshd[44544]: Failed password for root from >61.100.12.92 port 35193 ssh2 >auth.log:Oct 11 00:23:34 foobox sshd[44546]: Failed password for root from >61.100.12.92 port 35228 ssh2 >auth.log:Oct 11 00:23:36 foobox sshd[44548]: Failed password for root from >61.100.12.92 port 35270 ssh2 >auth.log:Oct 11 00:23:39 foobox sshd[44550]: Failed password for root from >61.100.12.92 port 35309 ssh2 >auth.log:Oct 12 01:50:12 foobox sshd[46231]: Illegal user test from >203.212.4.173 >auth.log:Oct 12 01:50:15 foobox sshd[46233]: Illegal user guest from >203.212.4.173 >auth.log:Oct 12 01:50:17 foobox sshd[46235]: Illegal user admin from >203.212.4.173 >auth.log:Oct 12 01:50:19 foobox sshd[46237]: Illegal user admin from >203.212.4.173 >auth.log:Oct 12 01:50:22 foobox sshd[46239]: Illegal user user from >203.212.4.173 >auth.log:Oct 12 01:50:24 foobox sshd[46241]: Failed password for root from >203.212.4.173 port 55657 ssh2 >auth.log:Oct 12 01:50:27 foobox sshd[46243]: Failed password for root from >203.212.4.173 port 55696 ssh2 >auth.log:Oct 12 01:50:29 foobox sshd[46245]: Failed password for root from >203.212.4.173 port 55734 ssh2 >auth.log:Oct 12 01:50:32 foobox sshd[46247]: Illegal user test from >203.212.4.173 > >I think this has been discussed at some length on security@. Automated >scripts >from compromised machines are banging away at whatever addresses they can find >a telnet or ssh port open on, looking for people who use "foo" or "candy" >as their >passwords .... > >For starters, use good passwords if you use passwords at all. Probably you >should be using key-based authentication, or something beefy like that (I >know nothing of Kerberos, for example, but it might be a possibility ... ) > >You can certainly set some things in your sshd_config (AllowUsers and >AllowGroups have been discussed) and there is that note in /etc/hosts.allow: >"wrapping sshd isn't a good idea ...", but I do it on all my boxes except one. >I'm usually on a known subnet, there are no other administrators or remote >users, and in the rare instance when I'm on a box with a "not allowed" >address, >I connect to my other boxes through the one ... > >I guess the next step, then, would be scripting something to parse and delete >this crap from the logs ... > >Kevin Kinsey --- Steve Suhre Antero web technologies 719.634.8161 steve@Antero.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 28 20:51:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24EA116A4CE for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:51:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bella.lunarpages.com (bella.lunarpages.com [216.193.194.185]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F267D43D2D for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:51:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from siavash@edrisi.com) Received: from chello080108044180.30.11.vie.surfer.at ([80.108.44.180] helo=localhost) by bella.lunarpages.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.43) id 1CNHFG-0000Ii-1Y; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 13:51:42 -0700 Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 22:51:08 +0200 From: Siavash Edrisi X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Personal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <162997765.20041028225108@edrisi.com> To: Matt Navarre In-Reply-To: <200410271745.18445.mnavarre@cox.net> References: <1098820254.417eaa9e77a47@login.bella.lunarpages.com> <200410262235.00637.mnavarre@cox.net> <1098907924.41800114900cc@login.bella.lunarpages.com> <200410271745.18445.mnavarre@cox.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - bella.lunarpages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - edrisi.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: Finding the Right Sound Driver ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Siavash Edrisi List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:51:20 -0000 Hi Matt! Thanks a lot again for being so kind to help. My whole system is tonight a little bit out of order. It takes the system more than 2 minutes to boot and I don't get into KDE ==> Crash! Before this I tried to install some drivers one after another, but in /dev/sndstat I could see no interesting contents. Then I got back to the general driver (snd_driver_load="YES"). Since then the system does not work properly. I think you are right with your guess. But something else must be wrong. I must still say that yesterday FreeBSD made some noises in KDE! For me it was a big step in the right direction and it was just like a baby who tries to speak :-) I thought maybe I could make it "talk" tonight. Anyway ... I think the best is to reinstall the whole system once again. By now I am writing this email from my second PC that is an XP (sorry!). But I will make FreeBSD run!!! If I may I will stay in contact with you and will write again when my FreeBSD is working again ... Many thanks and best Regards Sia Thursday, October 28, 2004, 2:45:18 AM, you wrote: MN> On Wednesday 27 October 2004 01:12, you wrote: >> Hi Matt! >> >> Sorry, if I am disturbing you again! >> >> I just wanted to send you the result of my trys! Well first I tried this: >> >> # kldload snd_driver >> >> The contents of "/dev/sndstat" was then this: >> >> >> # cat /dev/sndstat >> FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) >> Installed devices: >> pcm0: at io 0xd800,0xe000,0xe400 irq 5 >> (1p/1r/0v channels duplex default) >> MN> Does sound work now? On my box the driver name showed up where yours says MN> "unknown vendor". I'm guessing that the snd_ess driver would be the right MN> one, though the man page doesn't list the chipsets it supports. Try adding MN> snd_ess_load="yes" to /boot/loader.conf (for FreeBSD 5.x) I can't remember MN> how to load a kernel module at boot on 4.x, you might be able to do it MN> in /etc/rc.conf but I'm not sure. >> >> Does this tell you anything? The sound card is an ESS 1869. >> >> Thanks MN> No problem. BTW in the future when you reply to emails from the list use MN> "Reply to All" or "Reply to List" if your mailer supports that. Odds are MN> you'll get a faster response that way. >> Sia >> MN> Matt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 28 20:59:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 340D016A4CE for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:59:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B066143D45 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:59:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from TM4525@aol.com) Received: from TM4525@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id q.54.35f18d2e (4320); Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:58:58 -0400 (EDT) From: TM4525@aol.com Message-ID: <54.35f18d2e.2eb2b792@aol.com> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:58:58 EDT To: james@tunasafedolphin.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5114 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dummynet X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:59:18 -0000 In a message dated 10/28/04 12:52:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time, james@tunasafedolphin.org writes: >>Funny, I thought that's what Dummynet did. It seems that you wouldn't >want to steer a user into a horribly overpriced closed-source >rate-limiting solutuion when it's available for free in the OS. >BTW: Nice email addr. ;) ---------------------------- Ah, but its not really "available" for free, because the free ones don't work well, aren't supported and don't scale. Plus it seems that unless you value your time at $2./hr its already cost you more than the $800. to try to use the "free" stuff. Are you planning on completely rewriting it yourself using dummynet as the code base? What good is open source if the entire code base is nowhere near as good as what you can buy? You would really struggle with an inadequate open source solution rather than pay for something that works? And I wouldn't talk about email addresses, mr "so liberal I can't function normally in society". AOL buffers the 99% of mails I have no interest in reading, I can just block the domains of lists I dont feel like dealing with at any given time without having to unsubscribe and subscribe, and it uses no disk space or bandwidth in the process. Its ideal (except for the darned reader). TM From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 28 21:08:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29F4216A4CE for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:08:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-m22.mx.aol.com (imo-m22.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97D5943D5D for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:08:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from TM4525@aol.com) Received: from TM4525@aol.com by imo-m22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id i.1f7.1bdd3cc (4320); Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:08:01 -0400 (EDT) From: TM4525@aol.com Message-ID: <1f7.1bdd3cc.2eb2b9b1@aol.com> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:08:01 EDT To: ph.schulz@gmx.de MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5114 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GPL vs BSD Licence X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:08:14 -0000 In a message dated 10/28/04 4:49:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ph.schulz@gmx.de writes: > I don't think that Allot modifies the Linux kernel. I wouldn't expect >them to do so and I don't see an obvious reason why they should (*). >Obviously some of their custom stuff needs to run inside kernel, but I >rather think they enhance the kernel with some loadable modules or >whatever (does Linux have KLDs?). Then you either know nothing about programming or nothing about their products. Do you think they do gigabit bandwidth management, with features not in the kernel, from user space? Plus, if they were using an unmodified kernel, why not provide the source? Put it on the machine. Whats the harm? > A while back, I fast-read a post of Linus Torvalds to a mailing list >saying why he thinks that binary-only enhancements to linux must be GPL >licenced (and I believed the statemant was discussed on a FreeBSD-list >also). His argument was that by using the kernel headers your work >automatically becomes a derived work, thus it needs to be licensed under >the GPL. I seem to recall the discussion was about nVidia's closed Modules use headers and are not "GPLed", so clearly you're just plain wrong. Linus is just a big dope anyway, so who cares what he thinks? He's like Kerry. He thinks whatever is convenient for him to think at the time. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 28 21:10:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9C4316A4CE for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:10:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out014.verizon.net (out014pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6933843D2D for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:10:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.org) Received: from keyslapper.org ([68.163.166.57]) by out014.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20041028211035.KFZE25088.out014.verizon.net@keyslapper.org> for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:10:35 -0500 Received: from keyslapper.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keyslapper.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i9SLAYD9094242 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:10:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.org) Received: (from leblanc@localhost) by keyslapper.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i9SLAXOu094241 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:10:33 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from leblanc) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:10:33 -0400 From: Louis LeBlanc To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20041028211033.GL88919@keyslapper.org> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out014.verizon.net from [68.163.166.57] at Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:10:35 -0500 Subject: more on the dual monitor setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:10:37 -0000 Hey all. I recently asked a question about a dual monitor setup for my GeForce FX 5200. It has 3 outputs, VGA, DVI and s-video. I'm not getting anything on the DVI output unless I physically unplug the monitor from the VGA output and plug into the DVI. I had the setup as suggested, included below, but I kept getting the X server repeating too quickly. Obviously not a cool config. All I had to do to fix it was remove the screen1 entry from the layout. The message in the Xorg.0.log is as follows: Fatal server error: Requested Entity already in use! Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support at http://wiki.X.Org for help. Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional information. I'm guessing it's not seeing this card the way I had hoped. I also did a scanpci to see if multiple cards were detected, which I didn't expect. I was right. I also tried rebooting the machine with both monitors plugged in. In this case, I get both monitors showing the same screen until X starts, at which point, the monitor plugged into the DVI port goes wiggy. Chances are I'm going to have to hijack the card from my other system. I've checked the bios, and the onboard video doesn't seem to be manually disabled, so it looks like it's auto disabled. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. Here's the relevant sections of my xorg.conf; if anyone sees something I might have botched, I'd certainly appreciate a pointer. Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor1" HorizSync 31.0 - 85.00 VertRefresh 48.00 - 120.00 VendorName "DEL" ModelName "DELL E172FP" Option "DPMS" ModeLine "1280x1024" 135.00 1280 1316 1460 1696 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" HorizSync 31.0 - 85.00 VertRefresh 48.00 - 120.00 VendorName "DEL" ModelName "DELL E172FP" Option "DPMS" ModeLine "1280x1024" 135.00 1280 1316 1460 1696 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "GeForce0" VideoRam 131072 Driver "nv" VendorName "nVidia Corporation" BoardName "NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]" BusID "PCI:1:0:0" Screen 0 EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "GeForce1" VideoRam 131072 Driver "nv" VendorName "nVidia Corporation" BoardName "NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]" BusID "PCI:1:0:0" Screen 1 EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "GeForce0" Monitor "Monitor0" DefaultDepth 24 Subsection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" ViewPort 0 0 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" ViewPort 0 0 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" ViewPort 0 0 EndSubsection EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen1" Device "GeForce1" Monitor "Monitor1" DefaultDepth 24 Subsection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubsection EndSection Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "Simple Layout" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 Screen 1 "Screen1" LeftOf "Screen0" InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard" Option "Clone" "off" Option "Xinerama" "on" EndSection -- Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org ÔżÔ¬ When a man sits with a pretty girl for an hour, it seems like a minute. But let him sit on a hot stove for a minute -- and it's longer than any hour. That's relativity. -- Albert Einstein From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 28 21:16:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0047716A4CE for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:16:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bsdie.tunasafedolphin.org (tunasafedolphin.org [207.44.144.112]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9622743D2F for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:16:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from james@tunasafedolphin.org) Received: from webmail.tunasafedolphin.org (bsdie.tunasafedolphin.org [127.0.0.1])i9SLIJ9l029490; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:18:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from james@tunasafedolphin.org) Received: from adsl-068-209-252-201.sip.asm.bellsouth.net ([68.209.252.201]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user james@tunasafedolphin.org); by webmail.tunasafedolphin.org with HTTP; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:18:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <60782.68.209.252.201.1098998299.squirrel@68.209.252.201> In-Reply-To: <54.35f18d2e.2eb2b792@aol.com> References: <54.35f18d2e.2eb2b792@aol.com> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:18:19 -0400 (EDT) From: "James Skinner" To: TM4525@aol.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal cc: james@tunasafedolphin.org cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dummynet X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:16:35 -0000 > In a message dated 10/28/04 12:52:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > james@tunasafedolphin.org writes: >>>Funny, I thought that's what Dummynet did. It seems that you wouldn't >>want to steer a user into a horribly overpriced closed-source >>rate-limiting solutuion when it's available for free in the OS. > >>BTW: Nice email addr. ;) > ---------------------------- > Ah, but its not really "available" for free, because the free ones don't > work > well, aren't supported and don't scale. Plus it seems that unless you > value your time at $2./hr its already cost you more than the $800. to try > to > use the "free" stuff. Are you planning on completely rewriting it yourself > using dummynet as the code base? What good is open source if > the entire code base is nowhere near as good as what you can buy? > You would really struggle with an inadequate open source solution > rather than pay for something that works? > And I wouldn't talk about email addresses, mr "so liberal I can't function > normally in society". AOL buffers the 99% of mails I have no interest in > reading, I can just block the domains of lists I dont feel like dealing > with at any given time without having to unsubscribe and subscribe, > and it uses no disk space or bandwidth in the process. Its ideal (except > for the darned reader). > > > TM > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I agree with some of that, but unless the person has the money to spend, then using dummnynet is acceptable. Not everyone can drop 10+ grand on a nokia firewall that has everything packaged into a nice gui. Regarding the email addr: If you look further, you'll the wink (I was ribbing you). Similar to another one of threads. Obviously, you can dish it out, but can't take it. I have seen your past replys; you offer nothing but abuse. Do you sit around and wait for a newbie to ask a question so you can make him/her feel stupid for asking it? Thx From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 28 21:25:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 901EE16A4CE for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:25:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp800.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp800.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.12.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E231D43D45 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:25:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Thomas.Sparrevohn@btinternet.com) Received: from unknown (HELO w2fzz0vc01.aah-go-on.com) (thomas.sparrevohn@hg1.btinternet.com@81.157.229.182 with plain) by smtp800.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Oct 2004 21:25:25 -0000 From: Thomas Sparrevohn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 22:25:16 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <1f7.1bdd3cc.2eb2b9b1@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <1f7.1bdd3cc.2eb2b9b1@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410282225.17243.Thomas.Sparrevohn@btinternet.com> Subject: Re: GPL vs BSD Licence X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Thomas.Sparrevohn@btinternet.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:25:26 -0000 On Thursday 28 October 2004 22:08, TM4525@aol.com wrote: Could you please move the discussion to FreeBSD-chat - now > In a message dated 10/28/04 4:49:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > > ph.schulz@gmx.de writes: > > I don't think that Allot modifies the Linux kernel. I wouldn't expect > >them to do so and I don't see an obvious reason why they should (*). > >Obviously some of their custom stuff needs to run inside kernel, but I > >rather think they enhance the kernel with some loadable modules or > >whatever (does Linux have KLDs?). > > Then you either know nothing about programming or nothing about their > products. Do you think they do gigabit bandwidth management, with > features not in the kernel, from user space? Plus, if they were using an > unmodified kernel, why not provide the source? Put it on the machine. > Whats the harm? > > > A while back, I fast-read a post of Linus Torvalds to a mailing list > > > >saying why he thinks that binary-only enhancements to linux must be GPL > >licenced (and I believed the statemant was discussed on a FreeBSD-list > >also). His argument was that by using the kernel headers your work > >automatically becomes a derived work, thus it needs to be licensed under > >the GPL. I seem to recall the discussion was about nVidia's closed > > Modules use headers and are not "GPLed", so clearly you're just > plain wrong. > > Linus is just a big dope anyway, so who cares what he thinks? He's like > Kerry. He thinks whatever is convenient for him to think at the time. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 28 21:25:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B93516A4CE for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:25:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us (velocipede.dcn.davis.ca.us [168.150.193.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38F1143D3F for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:25:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lucas@omsoft.com) Received: from heretic (dcn177-29.dcn.davis.ca.us [168.150.177.29]) i9SLPeND000034 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 14:25:41 -0700 (PDT) From: "Lucas Sweany" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 14:27:12 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <418101C0.32008.1035C41@localhost> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Level: (0.462) X-Spam-Debug: TW_BF,TW_DR,TW_II,TW_KB,TW_TK,TW_XB X-Scanned-By: mimedefang on mail.omsoft.com Subject: 4.9 disk related system hang X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:25:44 -0000 I have a Sun LX50 running FreeBSD 4.9. Its primary function is a Squid caching proxy. It has 2 10k RPM SCSI-3 disks, 74GB each. It has 2 processors, each a P3-1400, and the kernel is SMP enabled. The problem is that every time I start using the second disk for anything significant, like logging or caching files for squid, the system locks up after some hours or days. There are no unusual messages in the syslog, it just locks up completely and unexpectedly. It has been running fine for quite a while now with the second disk mounted, but doing nothing. Can anyone help me find the root of the problem? I don't even know how to begin to troubleshoot this. My next step was going to be to upgrade to 4.10, but I would prefer not to at this point. Thanks, Lucas --- Here is my dmesg.boot: Copyright (c) 1992-2003 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE #2: Tue Feb 3 16:17:11 PST 2004 root@hostname.domain.ext:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/HOSTNAME Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) III CPU family 1400MHz (1396.45-MHz \ 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x6b1 Stepping = 1 Features=0x383fbff real memory = 1073676288 (1048512K bytes) avail memory = 1039577088 (1015212K bytes) Programming 16 pins in IOAPIC #0 IOAPIC #0 intpin 2 -> irq 0 Programming 16 pins in IOAPIC #1 FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor motherboard: 2 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): apic id: 3, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000 cpu1 (AP): apic id: 0, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000 io0 (APIC): apic id: 4, version: 0x000f0011, at 0xfec00000 io1 (APIC): apic id: 5, version: 0x000f0011, at 0xfec01000 Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0555000. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled md0: Malloc disk Using $PIR table, 13 entries at 0xc00f3b70 npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib1: on motherboard IOAPIC #1 intpin 11 -> irq 2 IOAPIC #1 intpin 10 -> irq 5 pci1: on pcib1 ahc0: port 0x2400-0x24ff mem 0xfebe0000- 0xfebe0fff irq 2 at device 7.0 on pci1 aic7899: Ultra160 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 32/253 SCBs ahc1: port 0x2000-0x20ff mem 0xfebf0000- 0xfebf0fff irq 5 at device 7.1 on pci1 aic7899: Ultra160 Wide Channel B, SCSI Id=7, 32/253 SCBs pcib0: on motherboard IOAPIC #1 intpin 5 -> irq 7 IOAPIC #1 intpin 4 -> irq 9 IOAPIC #1 intpin 2 -> irq 10 IOAPIC #0 intpin 10 -> irq 11 pci0: on pcib0 fxp0: port 0x1400-0x143f mem \ 0xfe8a0000-0xfe8bffff,0xfe8e0000-0xfe8e0fff irq 7 at device 3.0 on pci0 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:03:47:f1:72:39 inphy0: on miibus0 inphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto fxp1: port 0x1440-0x147f mem \ 0xfe860000-0xfe87ffff,0xfe880000-0xfe880fff irq 9 at device 4.0 on pci0 fxp1: Ethernet address 00:03:47:f1:72:3a inphy1: on miibus1 inphy1: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto pci0: at 12.0 irq 10 isab0: at device 15.0 on \ pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x410-0x413,0x3a0-0x3af,0- 0x3,0-0x7,0-0x3,0-0x7 at device 15.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 ohci0: mem 0xfe840000-0xfe840fff irq 11 at device 15.2 on pci0 usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support usb0: on ohci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: (0x1166) OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered pcib2: on motherboard pci2: on pcib2 pcib3: on motherboard pci3: on pcib3 pcib4: on motherboard pci4: on pcib4 orm0:

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> > Title[pop3]: pop3 total stats > Target[pop3]: `/usr/local/etc/mrtg/ipfwmrtg.php 4 5` > MaxBytes[pop3]: 15000000 > PageTop[pop3]:

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> > Title[http]: http total stats > Target[http]: `/usr/local/etc/mrtg/ipfwmrtg.php 6 7` > MaxBytes[http]: 15000000 > PageTop[http]:

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> > Title[dns]: dns total stats > Target[dns]: `/usr/local/etc/mrtg/ipfwmrtg.php 8 9` > MaxBytes[dns]: 15000000 > PageTop[dns]:

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> ////////////////// end code for mrtg.cfg > > so anyway now that you have the code you'll need to add a couple ipfw > rules.. > > something like > > ipfw add 2 count tcp from me 25 to any > ipfw add 3 count tcp from any to me 25 > > ipfw add 4 count tcp from me 110 to any > ipfw add 5 count tcp from any to me 110 > > ipfw add 6 count tcp from me 80 to any > ipfw add 7 count tcp from any to me 80 > > ipfw add 8 count udp from me 53 to any > ipfw add 9 count udp from any to me 53 > > would count all traffic going out of your server on port 25 and the > second line would count all inbound traffic to your server on port > 25.. > You can add as many rules as you'd like just change the numbers for > each new rule.. You will also need to update the #'s for the new rules > in the Target[]: line that goes into mrtg.conf > Okay Well i'm not good at explaining things.. I hope this can help > you. good luck > -Gerard > > > > On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 02:15:09 +0800, Spades wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Is there anyway for us to trace the server bandwidth based on >> specific ports on a MRTG graph? >> >> Such as smtp bandwidth? port 25 >> pop3 bandwidth? port 110 >> web bandwidth? port 80 >> dns bandwidth? port 53 >> >> Is there any program or can MRTG do, please advise, thanks. >> >> -- >> Spades >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 09:50:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D407B16A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 09:50:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp29.singnet.com.sg (smtp29.singnet.com.sg [165.21.101.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C90D43D55 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 09:50:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from spades@galaxynet.org) Received: from astral (bb219-74-176-135.singnet.com.sg [219.74.176.135]) by smtp29.singnet.com.sg (8.13.1/8.13.1) with SMTP id i9T9oEkI030019; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 17:50:15 +0800 Message-ID: <024801c4bd9c$b91a1a60$0300a8c0@astral> From: "Spades" To: Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 17:50:28 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MRTG monitoring specific ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Spades List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 09:50:19 -0000 I have pasted the Error: # /usr/local/mrtg-2/bin/mrtg /home/www/mojito.purplecards.com/mrtg/cfg/mrtg.cfg 3: not found WARNING: Problem with External get '/usr/local/etc/mrtg/ipfwmrtg.php 2 3': Expected a Number for 'in' but got '' 5: not found WARNING: Problem with External get '/usr/local/etc/mrtg/ipfwmrtg.php 4 5': Expected a Number for 'in' but got '' 7: not found WARNING: Problem with External get '/usr/local/etc/mrtg/ipfwmrtg.php 6 7': Expected a Number for 'in' but got '' 9: not found WARNING: Problem with External get '/usr/local/etc/mrtg/ipfwmrtg.php 8 9': Expected a Number for 'in' but got '' ERROR: Target[smtp][_IN_] ' $target->[1]{$mode} ' did not eval into defined data ERROR: Target[pop3][_IN_] ' $target->[2]{$mode} ' did not eval into defined data ERROR: Target[http][_IN_] ' $target->[3]{$mode} ' did not eval into defined data ERROR: Target[dns][_IN_] ' $target->[4]{$mode} ' did not eval into defined data ----- Original Message ----- From: "Spades" To: Cc: Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 5:46 PM Subject: Re: MRTG monitoring specific ports > Thanks, i think its well done, but i couldn't get it to work. > I have refreshed the mrtg page but doesn't seem to have the lines. > > See http://mojito.purplecards.com/mrtg > > http://mojito.purplecards.com/ipfwmrtg.php (you told me to create) > > # cat mrtg.cfg | grep gerard@gedads.com > > # ipfw -at list > 00002 0 0 count tcp from me 25 to any > 00003 0 0 count tcp from any to me 25 > 00004 0 0 count tcp from me 110 to > any > 00005 0 0 count tcp from any to me > 110 > 00006 0 0 count tcp from me 80 to any > 00007 0 0 count tcp from any to me 80 > 00008 0 0 count udp from me 53 to any > 00009 0 0 count udp from any to me 53 > 65535 138410 17490211 Fri Oct 29 17:44:31 2004 allow ip from any to any > > I have php.4.39 installed, please advise, thanks. > > Spades > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gerard D." > To: "Spades" > Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 2:50 PM > Subject: Re: MRTG monitoring specific ports > > >> I'm sure theres something better out there.. but heres a little script >> I threw togethor a long long long time ago for use on my webservers.. >> I know its nasty and could easily be done in a better language but i'm >> lazy as hell.. anyway it assumes you have ipfw support enabled and the >> command line version of php installed. >> >> /******************* start ipfwmrtg.php *********/ >> #!/usr/local/bin/php >> > $ipfw_out = shell_exec("ipfw show ".$_SERVER['argv'][1]." >> ".$_SERVER['argv'][2]); >> $regexp = "/([\d]+)[\s]+([\d]+)[\s]+([\d]+)[\s]+.+/"; >> $ipfw = split("\n", $ipfw_out); >> >> foreach($ipfw as $pp) { >> preg_match($regexp, $pp, $out); >> $tmp[] = $out[3]; >> } >> //print_r($tmp); >> //echo "fdc-bw 1 $tmp[1] $tmp[0] 0 0"; >> echo $tmp[1]."\n"; >> echo $tmp[0]."\n"; >> echo "1"."\n"; >> echo "name"."\n"; >> /************** end ipfwmrtg.php ***************/ >> >> /////////////////// code that goes in your mrtg.cfg >> Title[smtp]: smtp total stats >> Target[smtp]: `/usr/local/etc/mrtg/ipfwmrtg.php 2 3` >> MaxBytes[smtp]: 15000000 >> PageTop[smtp]:

smtp

>> >> Title[pop3]: pop3 total stats >> Target[pop3]: `/usr/local/etc/mrtg/ipfwmrtg.php 4 5` >> MaxBytes[pop3]: 15000000 >> PageTop[pop3]:

pop3

>> >> Title[http]: http total stats >> Target[http]: `/usr/local/etc/mrtg/ipfwmrtg.php 6 7` >> MaxBytes[http]: 15000000 >> PageTop[http]:

http

>> >> Title[dns]: dns total stats >> Target[dns]: `/usr/local/etc/mrtg/ipfwmrtg.php 8 9` >> MaxBytes[dns]: 15000000 >> PageTop[dns]:

dns

>> ////////////////// end code for mrtg.cfg >> >> so anyway now that you have the code you'll need to add a couple ipfw >> rules.. >> >> something like >> >> ipfw add 2 count tcp from me 25 to any >> ipfw add 3 count tcp from any to me 25 >> >> ipfw add 4 count tcp from me 110 to any >> ipfw add 5 count tcp from any to me 110 >> >> ipfw add 6 count tcp from me 80 to any >> ipfw add 7 count tcp from any to me 80 >> >> ipfw add 8 count udp from me 53 to any >> ipfw add 9 count udp from any to me 53 >> >> would count all traffic going out of your server on port 25 and the >> second line would count all inbound traffic to your server on port >> 25.. >> You can add as many rules as you'd like just change the numbers for >> each new rule.. You will also need to update the #'s for the new rules >> in the Target[]: line that goes into mrtg.conf >> Okay Well i'm not good at explaining things.. I hope this can help >> you. good luck >> -Gerard >> >> >> >> On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 02:15:09 +0800, Spades wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> Is there anyway for us to trace the server bandwidth based on >>> specific ports on a MRTG graph? >>> >>> Such as smtp bandwidth? port 25 >>> pop3 bandwidth? port 110 >>> web bandwidth? port 80 >>> dns bandwidth? port 53 >>> >>> Is there any program or can MRTG do, please advise, thanks. >>> >>> -- >>> Spades >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 10:35:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7475016A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:35:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (ns0.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F079443D54 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:35:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1])i9TAZA4q062337 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:35:10 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)i9TAZAdB062336; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:35:10 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:35:10 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: Enrique Ayesta Perojo Message-ID: <20041029103510.GA62126@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , Enrique Ayesta Perojo , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200410291045.51817.eayesta@portugalete.uned.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200410291045.51817.eayesta@portugalete.uned.es> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.5.6 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:35:10 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040904, clamav-milter version 0.75l on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BIND 9 and BIND 8 Transfers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:35:16 -0000 --ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 10:45:51AM +0200, Enrique Ayesta Perojo wrote: > Hello, i have recently installed a new FreeBSD 5.3 RC1 to replace our int= ernal=20 > cache dns master server, so it has installed BIND 9, on another machine w= e=20 > have currently installed BIND 8. Does anybody of you know if the transfer= of=20 > zones between the two versions are compatible? In principle, essentially yes. However, be aware that Bind9 is a lot pickier than Bind8, and various things that you used to be able to get away with now result in errors. Keep an eye on the /var/log/messages or /var/log/all.log files whenever you restart bind, as it tends to write pretty explanatory error messages there. Note that what applies to the zone files applies even more strongly to the named.conf file. Your best bet for getting the Bind9 named.conf working properly is to start with the default named.conf from 5.3 and customise that with reference to=20 file:///usr/local/share/doc/bind9/arm/Bv9ARM.html or wherever the system puts the Bind docs -- that's where the dns/bind9 port puts them. You may also find plenty of useful hints at this site: http://www.cymru.com/Documents/secure-bind-template.html Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBghzeiD657aJF7eIRArupAJ4rNEWNBI4u8UyloHctBD/i51jtAwCfTMnv b6Y8OiyHZxXxqvsTkyVN0Ow= =4PEu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 10:41:05 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 337F916A4D2 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:41:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from xxl.rdsbv.ro (xxl.rdsbv.ro [82.77.46.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADB0943D5F for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:41:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from petre.bandac@rdsnet.ro) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by xxl.rdsbv.ro (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9979F615C for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:43:30 +0300 (EEST) Received: from xxl.rdsbv.ro ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (xxl.rdsbv.ro [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 84026-10 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:43:29 +0300 (EEST) Received: from xxl.rdsbv.ro (localhost.rdsbv.ro [127.0.0.1]) by xxl.rdsbv.ro (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:43:29 +0300 (EEST) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:43:29 +0300 From: Petre Bandac To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20041029134329.13b0f2d3@xxl.rdsbv.ro> Organization: Romania Data Systems - Brasov Branch X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.1) Y-Originating-Environment: a place full of shit Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at xxl.rdsbv.ro Subject: ports conflict X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:41:05 -0000 ===> Installing for p5-DBD-mysql-2.9004_1 ===> p5-DBD-mysql-2.9004_1 conflicts with installed package(s): p5-Mysql-modules-1.2219 They install files into the same place. Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1). *** Error code 1 what must I do to have both of them installed ? thanks, petre -- Petre Bandac Network Engineer Romania Data Systems - Brasov Branch Tel: +4068474134 Fax: +4068474135 Privileged/Confidential Information may be contained in this message. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of the message to such person), you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. In such a case, you should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply e-mail. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 10:52:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6643316A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:52:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 149A743D31 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:52:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nlamprecht@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so577251wri for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 03:52:39 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=uL/dH5KIolbPkw5CT60VKOsfly3Q9orMSY5gNVzYhKiON0Nyrr59YjTbH8zIo7Ca20QTijRVQnjp4UGd035BQjPZfcWwzcRvNfED426ga+tiDB/UBFAwAkaRP7K2LUpaL9SVW2r4K1xKd2L/ig2I73h+QTLWJRKl0HXwepEMxhk= Received: by 10.54.31.64 with SMTP id e64mr158293wre; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 03:52:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.38.55 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 03:52:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7cbadc870410290352c8b9dde@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:52:39 +0200 From: Nelis Lamprecht To: Mick Walker In-Reply-To: <1099040705.26921.9.camel@codegurus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <1099005540.26921.5.camel@codegurus.org> <20041028232536.GA29572@xor.obsecurity.org> <1099040705.26921.9.camel@codegurus.org> cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Hostname X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nelis Lamprecht List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:52:41 -0000 On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:05:05 +0100, Mick Walker wrote: > On Fri, 2004-10-29 at 00:25, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 12:19:01AM +0100, Mick Walker wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I recently (today) upgraded to 5.3-STABLE. > > > I am wondering why I cant set my hostname. > > > It works if I issue the command hostname whatever.com, but on reboot it > > > is reset to nothing. > > > I have it set up in my /etc/rc.conf so it applies at boot time. > > > > > > Does anyone know how I can fix this? > > > > Show us what you've done first, don't describe what you think you did :-) > > > > Kris > > > $ hostname > > $ > $ hostname laptop.codegurus.org > $ hostname > laptop.codegurus.org > $ > > And in my /etc/rc.conf file I have: > hostname="laptop.codegurus.org" > Perhaps you have conflicting information in /etc/hosts ? Nelis From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 11:45:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C39F116A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:45:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hermes-uno.uned.es (hermes-uno.uned.es [62.204.192.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C16A143D3F for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:45:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from eayesta@portugalete.uned.es) Received: from hermes-uno.uned.es (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by hermes-uno.uned.es (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i9TBjdFx001181 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:45:39 +0200 Received: from blackhole (ca6200-010-200-062-200.uned.es [10.200.62.200]) by hermes-uno.uned.es (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i9TBjcII001162; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:45:38 +0200 From: Enrique Ayesta Perojo To: Matthew Seaman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:45:37 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <200410291045.51817.eayesta@portugalete.uned.es> <20041029103510.GA62126@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20041029103510.GA62126@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410291345.37913.eayesta@portugalete.uned.es> Subject: Re: BIND 9 and BIND 8 Transfers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:45:41 -0000 El Viernes, 29 de Octubre de 2004 12:35, Matthew Seaman escribi=F3: > In principle, essentially yes. However, be aware that Bind9 is a lot > pickier than Bind8, and various things that you used to be able to get > away with now result in errors. Keep an eye on the /var/log/messages > or /var/log/all.log files whenever you restart bind, as it tends to > write pretty explanatory error messages there. Thanks a lot, i was afraid that a transfer could leave my slave server KO,= =20 i'll take a look at the docs you mentioned Regards From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 11:54:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F78016A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:54:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from colossus.hpl.hp.com (colossus.hpl.hp.com [192.6.10.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A55143D41 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:54:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from s-freebsd-qns-oct04@zaba.com) Received: from otter.hpl.hp.com (otter.hpl.hp.com [15.144.59.2]) by colossus.hpl.hp.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9TBrdh4006919 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:53:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from [15.204.20.118] (branaid118.uksr.hp.com [15.204.20.118]) Internal Mail Hub) with SMTP id MAA28045 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:53:39 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <41822F3B.5070108@zaba.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:53:31 +0100 From: Stefek Zaba User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20041028185347.GA1917@zaba-s-2.hpl.hp.com> <4181C1A2.2040707@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <4181C1A2.2040707@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-HPL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the helpdesk for more information X-HPL-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-HPL-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-2.766, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -0.84, BAYES_00 -2.60, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS 0.68) X-MailScanner-From: s-freebsd-qns-oct04@zaba.com Subject: Re: shutdown(8): supposed to dismount all FSes? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:54:50 -0000 Chuck Swiger wrote: > > ...I recall that there are some issues handling ext2fs filesystems > cleanly during the shutdown process, which tend to cause them to not be > unmounted properly. It's considered a bug. > Thanks, Chuck. When I tried searching the PRs for this, I came up blank; but your reply caused me to search harder, and indeed this is a dup of 'PR kern/56675: Syncer "giving up" on buffers and ext2 filesystems' which is still Open, reported 10sep03. My experience suggests it's still a problem with 5.3-RC1. Obviously, on a "production" FreeBSD system, this bug is of minor relevance, as you'll be running UFS throughouth. But for the multibooters among us, who are looking (say) to straddle the Linux and BSD worlds, being able to mount the "old" ext2/ext3 partitions routinely is a Good Thing in easing the transition; so for such users the bug is more important. Still, I've no idea whether this is a relatively easy fix which just needs Motivation to address, or whether the ext2fs code is a "please don't make me go there" area! Ta, Stefek From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 11:58:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8730216A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:58:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FF5E43D1F for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:58:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 80so56460rnk for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 04:58:02 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=flT9S9qywUBoAaWYMbMVGE3gg2Za/ohkU+Ow1mRr77N0NTt0K4G7LPWoitnXill/j4LC8ImYo5xV5zTsj8leZK2SSNhytW+PtU5jhY5FcKEeAtEGxmdrZLqrZK0QhZALuKohitrAPLHzahI/1R1Itcj6K0blK8HEjA6C3vglFRc= Received: by 10.38.8.65 with SMTP id 65mr175983rnh; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 04:58:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.206.40 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 04:58:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 17:28:02 +0530 From: Subhro To: Jaime Moss In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <418026D4.5000309@daleco.biz> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sorry X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Subhro List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:58:08 -0000 On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 07:24:39 +0200, Jaime Moss wrote: > Hee hee, one is a devil armed with a big pitchfork, > and the other a helpless penguin. Its not a devil, its a daemon :D Regards S. -- Subhro Sankha Kar School of Information Technology Block AQ-13/1 Sector V ZIP 700091 India From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 12:12:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6841E16A4CF for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:12:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11B4643D48 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:12:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 80so83924rnl for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 05:12:12 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=P/6Z7bd23D3IOOkbbNLKNmSPheOOe734KywFPgMRCf5oVobhwZiGedJuo5yGrA87rdfD1Q5SscuEqH3oY1AzpjYh2LvDAyn3qj0zsBpycmEDBcT9KZie2Vb0POXP9XcHEbryuj0SmEDM90V1B1Jb5RyzcGIPngLmOKBU9lhXrIU= Received: by 10.38.206.23 with SMTP id d23mr188897rng; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 05:12:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.206.40 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 05:12:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 17:42:11 +0530 From: Subhro To: James Skinner In-Reply-To: <60782.68.209.252.201.1098998299.squirrel@68.209.252.201> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <54.35f18d2e.2eb2b792@aol.com> <60782.68.209.252.201.1098998299.squirrel@68.209.252.201> cc: tm4525@aol.com cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dummynet X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Subhro List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:12:18 -0000 On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:18:19 -0400 (EDT), James Skinner wrote: > > If you look further, you'll the wink (I was ribbing you). Similar to > another one of threads. Obviously, you can dish it out, but can't take > it. I have seen your past replys; you offer nothing but abuse. Do you sit > around and wait for a newbie to ask a question so you can make him/her > feel stupid for asking it? I entirely support this. Abusing a newbie and making him/her feel that she is a stupid wont get you anything. The only thing which may happen is, the newbie would just shy off leading to another Windows admin who does everything but knows nothing. BTW if you really wanna fight on your knowledge dare to do it with the gurus. > > Thx Something for you james, these guyz and not worth saying thanks and I mean it. So kindly stop thanking them. Regards S. -- Subhro Sankha Kar School of Information Technology Block AQ-13/1 Sector V ZIP 700091 India From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 12:22:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B09B716A4D1 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:22:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from iota.root-servers.ch (iota.root-servers.ch [193.41.193.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 88A4C43D48 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:22:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gaml@buz.ch) Received: (qmail 43300 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2004 12:22:21 -0000 Received: from 80-218-104-238.dclient.hispeed.ch (HELO ga) (80.218.104.238) by 0 with SMTP; 29 Oct 2004 12:22:21 -0000 Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:23:56 +0200 From: Gabriel Ambuehl X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <689835538.20041029142356@buz.ch> To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Read only access to ALL files? Or: how do I safely backup the complete system to an offsite machine? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gabriel Ambuehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:22:24 -0000 Hi, I'm wondering if there is any way to have read only access to the whole system for an user on STABLE (I have some ideas how to achieve it on CURRENT but I don't consider that ready for production use just now)? Specifically, I want to be able to ssh in from the backup server and fetch all files with rsync without having to give the backup server full root access to all other machines (for obvious reasons). There's obviously a hack involving NFS and read only/maproot=root but seeing that the backup server is offsite, I have to use ssh for transport and would rather not resort to VPN hackery... Or maybe someone knows of a rsync version that is safe to be run a suid root as it won't ever change anything on the filesystem? Regards, Gabriel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 12:25:17 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAAD616A4CE; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:25:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from srv1a-cta.bs2.com.br (srv1a-cta.bs2.com.br [200.203.183.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 720E843D45; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:25:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gpt@tirloni.org) Received: from localhost (srv1a-cta.bs2.com.br [200.203.183.35]) by srv1a-cta.bs2.com.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id 336051C6001; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 09:25:15 -0300 (BRST) Received: from [192.168.0.97] (unknown [200.181.211.95]) by srv1a-cta.bs2.com.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE8281C5FC9; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 09:25:14 -0300 (BRST) Message-ID: <41823674.1000609@tirloni.org> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 09:24:20 -0300 From: "Giovanni P. Tirloni" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (X11/20040926) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org References: <418102FC.4070103@tirloni.org> In-Reply-To: <418102FC.4070103@tirloni.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: atacontrol and SATA RAID X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:25:18 -0000 Giovanni P. Tirloni wrote: > Hi, > > I've a Intel SE7210TP1 motherboard with Adaptec HostRAID and I've > created a RAID1 array with 2 SATA disks using the following command: > > atacontrol create RAID1 ad4 ad6 > > The system installed on /dev/ar0 just fine and I played a bit with > atacontrol detaching and attaching the disks. > > Detaching ad6 worked without problems with the following commands: > > atacontrol detach 3 > atacontrol attach 3 > atacontrol rebuild 0 > > But when I tried to detach ad4 (after rebuilding array from previous > detachment) I got an error saying the array was broken. Now when booting > it shows this: > > ar0: 152627MB [19457/255/63] status: DEGRADED subdisks: > disk0 READY on ad4 at ata2-master > disk1 DOWN no device found for this disk > > but atacontrol list shows ad6 there. So my question is: what's the > proper way of doing de attach/detach operation ? > I did a fresh install then turned the machine off and removed on disk. It booted again just fine. Then I turned it off again and inserted the disk I had removed. Now it will panic: panic: softdep_setup_inomapdep: found inode cpuid = 0 boot() called on cpu#0 Uptime: 2s If I removed the disk and boot again it will work and show the following message: ar0: 152627MB [19457/255/63] status: DEGRADED subdisks: disk0 READY on ad4 at ata2-master disk1 DOWN no device found for this disk How can I replace a failed disk with this setup ? Given what I've read I'm not really using the controller's RAID support but only the RAID support present in the ata subsystem. Is that true ? In the BIOS I don't have any arrays. Thank you, -- Giovanni P. Tirloni From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 12:25:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC17416A56F for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:25:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C60643D3F for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:25:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 80so84371rnl for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 05:25:13 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=UuXtRyRNsf0BsXPDrT7xQan2Zj3sUAqd7h3sUk0/yqEPGc+U7gVOdWyUxnxRRVZVeeduoa4sMsE//+YIg+ubaNtJLR72IpV7VY78BAhfowDxgKlKIexXauDKK+LJzk6IYXV7wwG2B/zTZynOWa9JVCHjn6tzSYvOnGY+KPuMDG4= Received: by 10.38.206.23 with SMTP id d23mr194737rng; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 05:25:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.206.40 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 05:25:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 17:55:13 +0530 From: Subhro To: "Thordur I." In-Reply-To: <4130ED88.8070200@mi.is> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable References: <4130ED88.8070200@mi.is> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Software or hardware RAID1. (gstripe) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Subhro List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:25:28 -0000 On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 20:39:36 +0000, Thordur I. wrote: > I think I will go for a hardware raid controler (RAID5 sounds good, but > my budget doesn=B4t really allow me to buy 2x new disks ;). Well, I would say... postpond your RAID for a few weeks and gather the money to buy the disks. On a mission critical system, a RAID -5 is really worth in both stability, performance and fault tolerance. >=20 > Btw. What hardware raid controlers (sata) do you listmembers recommend ? There are very few things which really dont work under FreeBSD. Just some work out of the box and some needs a little attention like a misbehaved kid. The fact is, the more bucks you throw in, the better facilities u get. > I have read some positive things about the 3ware 9xxx and 8xxx series (a > thread on -stable) Yeh, they work almost out of the box without any requirement for tweaking. --=20 Subhro Sankha Kar School of Information Technology Block AQ-13/1 Sector V ZIP 700091 India From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 12:25:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CD9116A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:25:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.intradyn.com (ip67-95-33-115.z33-95-67.customer.algx.net [67.95.33.115]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A33943D3F for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:25:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hmiller@intradyn.com) Received: from gamma (124-240-168-192.hq.intradyn.com [192.168.240.124] (may be forged)) by mail.intradyn.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id i9TCPoer039948; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 07:25:50 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from hmiller@intradyn.com) Message-ID: <200410290727020108.09F07231@mail.intradyn.com> In-Reply-To: <143.3700cc48.2eb2c8f9@aol.com> References: <143.3700cc48.2eb2c8f9@aol.com> X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.30.00.00 (4) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 07:27:02 -0500 From: "Henry Miller" To: TM4525@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dummynet X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:25:52 -0000 I know it is about time for this thread to die, but I couldn't resist responding this once. On 10/28/2004 at 18:13 TM4525@aol.com wrote: >I agree with some of that, but unless the person has the money to spend, >then using dummnynet is acceptable. Not everyone can drop 10+ grand on a >nokia firewall that has everything packaged into a nice gui. >A commercial add-on for FreeBSD is $800. Half a weeks salary for a >marginal programmer, and it actually works. Unless you live in Russia >(or the Russian Federation or whatever the heck they call it now) and >make $22/week I dont see the point of turturing yourself. The boss pays his sysadmin every week, no matter what. The Boss expects that the systems will runs with the least overall cost. Sometimes that means buying something, sometimes that means configuring what is there. There is always a point in learning. However there is not enough time in the world to learn everything, so you need to choose what you will learn. Just the fact that you know all the details of configuring something is valuable, because at sometime in the future your needs will change. Complex configuration is normally the cost of flexibility, so if you needs change all the time you are better of learning how to configure the free solution because in the long run the time spent learning configuration means you can jump in and reconfigure it as needed. If your needs rarely change then maybe you are better off learning something else with your time. (note that there are free things that are hard to configure without being flexable, but in generally free software is hard to configure because it is flexable) If your needs are such that you would need 10 commercial licenses, then by your numbers you are looking at $8000. For a company trying to deal with several offices this is possible. Now we are looking at a month or more worth of salary for our sysadmin. It is suddenly a lot easier to justify time spent learning. (in the case of hardware solutions it isn't unheard of for companies to have two of each machine, next to each other, but one off, just so any idiot can turn the spare on if things go wrong, we can easily add more licenses unless the legalese is right) If the commercial solution does what you need, and the free one doesn't, then you have to evaluate the cost of buying, vs the cost of implementing something. Managers should be good at this. Generally it will come down to buy, but there are exceptions. If your company is just on the edge justifying a full time sysadmin, but doesn't have 40/hours a week worth of stuff for him to do, then the sysadmin should be saving money by using free stuff wherever it works. If your company has hundreds of sysadmins, and is so complex that despite their best efforts nobody can really keep track of everything, then you should be more inclined to buying something that is easy to use. I'm sure there are more considerations too. Any argument for or against free software that ignores the above is flawed! Since you have stated a generalization that ignores the above, your argument is flawed, even if it is correct in nearly all cases. P.S. Note I'm using the term sysadmin, not programer. Programs can often admin, and sysadmins can often program, but the skill sets are different. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 12:26:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11F8616A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:26:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp14.eresmas.com (smtp14.eresmas.com [62.81.235.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74B1C43D3F for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:26:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [192.168.108.58] (helo=mx01.eresmas.com) by smtp14.eresmas.com with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 1CNVDt-0003li-00; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:47:13 +0200 Received: from [62.174.254.182] (helo=top.daemonsecurity.com) by mx01.eresmas.com with esmtp (Exim 4.41) id 1CNUV2-0003e3-P5; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:00:53 +0200 Received: from [192.168.0.32] (charm.daemonsecurity.com [192.168.0.32]) by top.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42A89A1426; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:00:47 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <418222D9.6060409@locolomo.org> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:00:41 +0200 From: Erik Norgaard Organization: Loco Lomography User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040918 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, da, it, es MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Petre Bandac References: <20041029134329.13b0f2d3@xxl.rdsbv.ro> In-Reply-To: <20041029134329.13b0f2d3@xxl.rdsbv.ro> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.84.2.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports conflict X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:26:30 -0000 Petre Bandac wrote: > ===> Installing for p5-DBD-mysql-2.9004_1 > > ===> p5-DBD-mysql-2.9004_1 conflicts with installed package(s): > p5-Mysql-modules-1.2219 > > They install files into the same place. > Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1). > *** Error code 1 > > what must I do to have both of them installed ? No, it means that you can not have both, you must choose either one. If p5-Mysql-modules-1.2219 is not a dependency, simply uninstall it with pkg_delete. And go back to install whatever you were installing. If both are required due to dependencies, you have a problem. Please write what you are trying to install if p5-DBD-mysql-2.9004_1 is needed by some other program. To see dependecies of p5-Mysql-modules, try this: pkg_info p5-Mysql-modules-1.2219 Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 07:13:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2EDA16A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 07:13:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web15706.mail.cnb.yahoo.com (web15706.mail.cnb.yahoo.com [202.165.102.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BD0C043D46 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 07:13:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cigant@yahoo.com.cn) Message-ID: <20041029071301.42346.qmail@web15706.mail.cnb.yahoo.com> Received: from [218.0.254.229] by web15706.mail.cnb.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:13:01 CST Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:13:01 +0800 (CST) From: joshua To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:37:35 +0000 Subject: question about openssh authentication. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 07:13:03 -0000 dear firends: there is a puzzle about openssh authentication, i try to solve it, but i could not, could you help me? there is two account named as 'joshua' and 'moon' on my server. i want to disable password authentication method for 'joshua', let he can login only use public key authentication. but account 'moon' can use both public key and password authentication. here, how to config openssh? thankfulness. joshua Yu ===== Joshua Yu MSN: joshuayuAThotmail.com YAHOO MESSENGER: cigant _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 150ÍňÇúMP3·čżńËŃŁ¬´řÄú´łČëŇôŔÖµîĚĂ http://music.yisou.com/ ĂŔĹ®Ă÷ĐÇÓ¦ÓĐľˇÓĐŁ¬ËѱéĂŔÍĽˇ˘ŃŢÍĽşÍżáÍĽ http://image.yisou.com 1GľÍĘÇ1000Őף¬ŃĹ»˘µçÓĘ×ÔÖúŔ©ČÝŁˇ http://cn.rd.yahoo.com/mail_cn/tag/1g/*http://cn.mail.yahoo.com/event/mail_1g/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 12:33:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4901C16A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:33:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6C3D43D3F for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:33:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) i9TCXFkJ039343 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:33:15 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)i9TCXFfI039342; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:33:15 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:33:15 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: Petre Bandac Message-ID: <20041029123315.GA14605@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , Petre Bandac , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20041029134329.13b0f2d3@xxl.rdsbv.ro> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="zhXaljGHf11kAtnf" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041029134329.13b0f2d3@xxl.rdsbv.ro> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.5.6 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:33:15 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040904, clamav-milter version 0.75l on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports conflict X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:33:22 -0000 --zhXaljGHf11kAtnf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 01:43:29PM +0300, Petre Bandac wrote: > =3D=3D=3D> Installing for p5-DBD-mysql-2.9004_1 >=20 > =3D=3D=3D> p5-DBD-mysql-2.9004_1 conflicts with installed package(s):=20 > p5-Mysql-modules-1.2219 >=20 > They install files into the same place. > Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1). > *** Error code 1 >=20 > what must I do to have both of them installed ? You would have to install one of them with a different $PREFIX, which would make using that one a bit trickier than the other. You won't be able to use both from within the same program as they both implement overlapping chunks of the DBD::MySQL object heirarchy. Indeed, it's not clear to me why you would want to have both installed. Choose one or the other -- it will make your life a lot easier. Personally I prefer p5-DBD-mysql as it is the version suggested by MySQL themselves: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/Perl_support.html However the FreeBSD port goes with p5-Mysql-modules, which means I have to fix things up with pkgdb(1) each time the MySQL server port gets updated. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --zhXaljGHf11kAtnf Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBgjiLiD657aJF7eIRAoWQAJ951fD2bTXUYxI56J30Sia5eeaUSwCdHNUL UGYIjQXXxytzIpO7xyOzy9w= =h6iV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --zhXaljGHf11kAtnf-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 12:33:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 448F316A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:33:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-m23.mx.aol.com (imo-m23.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7A5843D2D for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:33:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from TM4525@aol.com) Received: from TM4525@aol.com by imo-m23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id w.149.3726b70c (4254); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 08:33:34 -0400 (EDT) From: TM4525@aol.com Message-ID: <149.3726b70c.2eb3929d@aol.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 08:33:33 EDT To: hmiller@intradyn.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5114 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dummynet X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:33:38 -0000 In a message dated 10/29/04 8:26:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time, hmiller@intradyn.com writes: >The boss pays his sysadmin every week, no matter what. The Boss >expects that the systems will runs with the least overall cost. >Sometimes that means buying something, sometimes that means configuring >what is there. Unfortunately most ISPs don't know much about business, so I guess explaining the concept of opportunity costs to you would be a waste of time. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 12:37:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E18B16A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:37:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-m25.mx.aol.com (imo-m25.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4E3C43D1F for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:37:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from TM4525@aol.com) Received: from TM4525@aol.com by imo-m25.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id i.75.36f1a115 (4254); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 08:37:40 -0400 (EDT) From: TM4525@aol.com Message-ID: <75.36f1a115.2eb39394@aol.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 08:37:40 EDT To: ph.schulz@gmx.de MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5114 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GPL vs BSD Licence X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:37:43 -0000 In a message dated 10/29/04 5:27:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ph.schulz@gmx.de writes: > Then you either know nothing about programming or nothing about their > products. Do you think they do gigabit bandwidth management, with > features not in the kernel, from user space? >That's not what I meant and not what I wrote. >you can write a loadable kernel module w/o changing the kernel sources, >can't you? Not without adding hooks, which which would have to be provided under the GPL. You've obviously never done anything like this, or know how it works, so why do you feel qualitifed to comment on it? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 12:39:51 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A143C16A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:39:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42BBF43D2D for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:39:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id i9TCdn115898; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 08:39:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200410291239.i9TCdn115898@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: TM4525@aol.com Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 08:39:49 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: from "TM4525@aol.com" at Oct 28, 2004 07:09:19 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Troll (was: Development Resources) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:39:51 -0000 > > In a message dated 10/28/04 6:42:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu writes: > > Definition of a Moron: > > > > "Someone with no sense of humor". :) > > >No, it is more like someone who wastes everyone's time with useless > >junk just to irritate people. Try doing some real work. > Coming from a guy who didn't know what sendmail was a few days > ago, thats pretty darn scary. What "real work" are you engaged in > Jerry? You must have me confused just like the rest of your stuff. I didn't post any questions about sendmail. Though I did tell someone that sendmail is available on FreeBSD. Since you are more interested in insulting people than knowing what you are talking about I suggest you grab some sort of holy book - possibly an early MS-DOS manual and stand out on the street corner and do your chants. ////jerry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 12:44:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1DB716A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:44:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.mi.is (smtp.mi.is [217.151.180.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2587343D3F for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:44:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from thib@mi.is) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (thib.pentagon.ms [217.151.165.254]) by smtp.mi.is (8.12.10/8.12.10/1.0.1) with ESMTP id i9TCiAnF004862; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:44:10 GMT Message-ID: <4131CFF8.6010608@mi.is> From: "Thordur I." User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Subhro References: <4130ED88.8070200@mi.is> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Software or hardware RAID1. (gstripe) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:44:12 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 12:45:44 +0000 X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:44:12 -0000 Subhro wrote: >On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 20:39:36 +0000, Thordur I. wrote: > > > >>I think I will go for a hardware raid controler (RAID5 sounds good, but >>my budget doesn´t really allow me to buy 2x new disks ;). >> >> > >Well, I would say... postpond your RAID for a few weeks and gather the >money to buy the disks. On a mission critical system, a RAID -5 is >really worth in both stability, performance and fault tolerance. > > > >>Btw. What hardware raid controlers (sata) do you listmembers recommend ? >> >> > >There are very few things which really dont work under FreeBSD. Just >some work out of the box and some needs a little attention like a >misbehaved kid. The fact is, the more bucks you throw in, the better >facilities u get. > > > >>I have read some positive things about the 3ware 9xxx and 8xxx series (a >>thread on -stable) >> >> > >Yeh, they work almost out of the box without any requirement for tweaking. > > > Actually, my situation is not "mission-critcal", still in a way it is. I have decided to go for a RAID5 controler (3ware 9xxxx) and simple wait a few weeks until I have gatherd the funds :) When you say "almost" out of the box what do you mean ? I think I´m right when I say that there are drivers ready for the 3ware cards so I do not see why there are any proplems besides overstepping the learning curve. Anyway I think you and the other listmembers again for there input. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 12:44:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5934F16A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:44:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 9.hellooperator.net (cpc3-cdif2-3-0-cust202.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.103.32.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2B9143D53 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:44:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rasputnik@hellooperator.net) Received: from [10.4.0.1] (helo=bingo.tenfour) by 9.hellooperator.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CNW5x-0001JY-Cd; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:43:05 +0100 Received: from rasputnik by bingo.tenfour with local (Exim 4.43 (FreeBSD)) id 1CNW72-0001tc-4P; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:44:12 +0100 Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:44:12 +0100 From: Dick Davies To: joshua Message-ID: <20041029124411.GB7262@bingo.tenfour> References: <20041029071301.42346.qmail@web15706.mail.cnb.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041029071301.42346.qmail@web15706.mail.cnb.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: question about openssh authentication. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:44:14 -0000 * joshua [1036 13:36]: > dear firends: > > there is a puzzle about openssh authentication, i try to solve it, > but i could not, could you help me? > there is two account named as 'joshua' and 'moon' on my server. i > want to disable password authentication method for 'joshua', let he can > login only use public key authentication. but account 'moon' can use > both public key and password authentication. here, how to config > openssh? Could you just enable both methods and disable the 'joshua' accounts password? -- One cannot make an omelette without breaking eggs -- but it is amazing how many eggs one can break without making a decent omelette. - Charles P. Issawi Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 12:58:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0441C16A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:57:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web52501.mail.yahoo.com (web52501.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.39.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AA93243D45 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:57:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from runfreebsd@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20041029125759.26932.qmail@web52501.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.204.157.14] by web52501.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 05:57:59 PDT Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 05:57:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Schoolcraft To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: 5.2.1, installed Mozilla -- X reverses background colors when used!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:58:00 -0000 Hello, I have run 5.2.1 successfully on many machines and X is actually working fine except when I use Mozilla as installed from ports. The whole background turns into a "negative" and so does the Mozilla browser. All returns to normal once I exit Mozilla. I have only seen this before with Solaris using Netscape. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 12:58:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6387D16A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:58:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-m14.mx.aol.com (imo-m14.mx.aol.com [64.12.138.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D665143D49 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:58:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from TM4525@aol.com) Received: from TM4525@aol.com by imo-m14.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id s.111.3bb62c91 (4254); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 08:58:28 -0400 (EDT) From: TM4525@aol.com Message-ID: <111.3bb62c91.2eb39874@aol.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 08:58:28 EDT To: tedm@toybox.placo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5114 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GPL vs BSD Licence X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:58:39 -0000 In a message dated 10/29/04 2:10:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time, tedm@toybox.placo.com writes: > the GPL. I seem to recall the discussion was about nVidia's closed > source, binary only drivers but, according to Linus, affects all similar > products. I'm unsure if and how this issue is being dealt with. >It is. It is the stated policy of the FSF that loadable kernel modules >are considered part of the GPL work and therefore must be GPL'ed >themselves. That is where all this is coming from. It is kind of >a personal vendetta/issue with RMS I understand. This position has >also created lots of controversy as you might imagine. The FSF doesnt have standing with Linux so they can blow as hard as they like and no one will really care. The FSF is a bunch of weenies whos only mission in life is to abolish anything thats not open source. Linus has stated that, if software was written for a different O/S and was ported to linux, its not a "derivative work" and binary modules are acceptable and don't have to be GPLed Again, the reality is that none of this (the existence of some products that exist as binary modules) harm the community. They offer choices for users, and the more choices the better. What a horrible place the world would be without TiVo (who never would have done the work if they couldn't protect it) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 12:59:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 502CC16A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:59:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from xxl.rdsbv.ro (xxl.rdsbv.ro [82.77.46.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0683143D1D for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:59:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from petre.bandac@rdsnet.ro) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by xxl.rdsbv.ro (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE022615C; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:02:20 +0300 (EEST) Received: from xxl.rdsbv.ro ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (xxl.rdsbv.ro [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 85194-02; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:02:19 +0300 (EEST) Received: from xxl.rdsbv.ro (localhost.rdsbv.ro [127.0.0.1]) by xxl.rdsbv.ro (Postfix) with SMTP; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:02:19 +0300 (EEST) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:02:19 +0300 From: Petre Bandac To: Erik Norgaard Message-Id: <20041029160219.5c1ac7ee@xxl.rdsbv.ro> In-Reply-To: <418222D9.6060409@locolomo.org> References: <20041029134329.13b0f2d3@xxl.rdsbv.ro> <418222D9.6060409@locolomo.org> Organization: Romania Data Systems - Brasov Branch X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.1) Y-Originating-Environment: a place full of shit Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at xxl.rdsbv.ro cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports conflict X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:59:54 -0000 On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:00:41 +0200 Anno Domini, the honourable Erik Norgaard wrote using one of his keyboards: > Petre Bandac wrote: > > ===> Installing for p5-DBD-mysql-2.9004_1 > > > > ===> p5-DBD-mysql-2.9004_1 conflicts with installed package(s): > > p5-Mysql-modules-1.2219 > > > > They install files into the same place. > > Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1). > > *** Error code 1 > > > > what must I do to have both of them installed ? > > No, it means that you can not have both, you must choose either one. > If p5-Mysql-modules-1.2219 is not a dependency, simply uninstall it > with pkg_delete. And go back to install whatever you were installing. > If both are required due to dependencies, you have a problem. > > Please write what you are trying to install if p5-DBD-mysql-2.9004_1 > is needed by some other program. > > To see dependecies of p5-Mysql-modules, try this: > > pkg_info p5-Mysql-modules-1.2219 I get this error when portupgrading amavisd-new xxl# pkg_info p5-Mysql-modules-1.2219 [snip] Required by: amavisd-new-20040701 and also there is another interesting thing: xxl# use.perl --help Usage: /usr/local/bin/use.perl port -> /usr/bin/perl is the perl5 port /usr/local/bin/use.perl system -> /usr/bin/perl is the system perl perl has the same path for the system and port version > Cheers, Erik > > > -- > Ph: +34.666334818 web: > www.locolomo.org > S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt > Subject ID: > A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 > Fingerprint: > 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2__________ > _____________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Petre Bandac Network Engineer Romania Data Systems - Brasov Branch Tel: +4068474134 Fax: +4068474135 Privileged/Confidential Information may be contained in this message. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 13:01:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 534BC16A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:01:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E222C43D1D for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:01:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from 209-6-197-67.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com ([209.6.197.67] helo=jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42 #5) id 1CNWNz-0006dg-RT for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 09:01:44 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16770.16202.545135.956390@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 09:02:02 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200410291045.51817.eayesta@portugalete.uned.es> References: <200410291045.51817.eayesta@portugalete.uned.es> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta16) "celeriac" XEmacs Lucid Subject: BIND 9 and BIND 8 Transfers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:01:45 -0000 Enrique Ayesta Perojo writes: > Hello, i have recently installed a new FreeBSD 5.3 RC1 to replace > our internal cache dns master server, so it has installed BIND 9, > on another machine we have currently installed BIND 8. Does > anybody of you know if the transfer of zones between the two > versions are compatible? If you mean across-the-wire: Bind 9 supports all the essential features of Bind 8, but may vary in details. The two are interoperable as far as I lnow. If you mean "will my Bind 8 zone files work with Bind 9": yes, with minor changes. See the Bind 9 A.R.M., or find a conversion guide on the Web. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 13:06:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AE9D16A4CE; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:06:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from blues.hansabank.lt (blues.hansabank.lt [193.109.235.156]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C51E43D39; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:06:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Putinas.Piliponis@hansa.lt) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by blues.hansabank.lt (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D7544635A; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:06:29 +0300 (EEST) content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6556.0 Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:06:14 +0300 Message-ID: <217202CB5FF8AE439E263CE3D48ECB50757E5D@honda.int.hansa.lt> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: atacontrol and SATA RAID Thread-Index: AcS9sm0xejkfRyiFSXWKFfgmatFC5gABYA9A From: "Putinas Piliponis" To: "Giovanni P. Tirloni" , cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: RE: atacontrol and SATA RAID X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:06:33 -0000 atacontrol addspare ar0 ad6 should do the trick -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Giovanni P. Tirloni Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 3:24 PM To: questions@freebsd.org Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: atacontrol and SATA RAID Giovanni P. Tirloni wrote: > Hi, >=20 > I've a Intel SE7210TP1 motherboard with Adaptec HostRAID and I've=20 > created a RAID1 array with 2 SATA disks using the following command: >=20 > atacontrol create RAID1 ad4 ad6 >=20 > The system installed on /dev/ar0 just fine and I played a bit with=20 > atacontrol detaching and attaching the disks. >=20 > Detaching ad6 worked without problems with the following commands: >=20 > atacontrol detach 3 > atacontrol attach 3 > atacontrol rebuild 0 >=20 > But when I tried to detach ad4 (after rebuilding array from previous=20 > detachment) I got an error saying the array was broken. Now when booting=20 > it shows this: >=20 > ar0: 152627MB [19457/255/63] status: DEGRADED subdisks: > disk0 READY on ad4 at ata2-master > disk1 DOWN no device found for this disk >=20 > but atacontrol list shows ad6 there. So my question is: what's the=20 > proper way of doing de attach/detach operation ? >=20 I did a fresh install then turned the machine off and removed on=20 disk. It booted again just fine. Then I turned it off again and=20 inserted the disk I had removed. Now it will panic: panic: softdep_setup_inomapdep: found inode cpuid =3D 0 boot() called on cpu#0 Uptime: 2s If I removed the disk and boot again it will work and show the=20 following message: ar0: 152627MB [19457/255/63] status: DEGRADED=20 subdisks: disk0 READY on ad4 at ata2-master disk1 DOWN no device found for this disk How can I replace a failed disk with this setup ? Given what I've=20 read I'm not really using the controller's RAID support but only the=20 RAID support present in the ata subsystem. Is that true ? In the BIOS=20 I don't have any arrays. Thank you, --=20 Giovanni P. 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If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 13:38:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BBAC16A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:38:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pophost.wldelft.nl (sunray.wldelft.nl [145.9.132.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 063E743D55 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:38:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leroy.vanlogchem@wldelft.nl) Received: (from root@localhost) by pophost.wldelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3vc) id PAA16692 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:38:03 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from wldelft.nl (beasty [145.9.150.200]) by pophost.wldelft.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA16458 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:37:59 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <418247B7.3000902@wldelft.nl> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:37:59 +0200 From: Leroy van Logchem User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040429 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: How to make the output of ps(1) aware of tty / pipe? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:38:06 -0000 Hi, How to make the output of 'ps aux' for example aware of the output being piped trough grep? Now it breaks the lines while I would expect it to be just long lines. (I don't want to loose the linebreaking feature by using a -ww alias or something) Leroy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 14:02:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B14816A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:02:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-d20.mx.aol.com (imo-d20.mx.aol.com [205.188.139.136]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E48E543D41 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:02:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from TM4525@aol.com) Received: from TM4525@aol.com by imo-d20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id n.d.35eaa5c5 (25305) for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:02:07 -0400 (EDT) From: TM4525@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:02:06 EDT To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5114 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Re: dummynet X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:02:12 -0000 In a message dated 10/29/04 9:13:15 AM Eastern Daylight Time, hmiller@intradyn.com writes: >>The boss pays his sysadmin every week, no matter what. The Boss >>expects that the systems will runs with the least overall cost. >>Sometimes that means buying something, sometimes that means configuring >>what is there. >Unfortunately most ISPs don't know much about business, so I guess >explaining the concept of opportunity costs to you would be a waste of >time. >Maybe you should look up opportunity costs, because that is the >technical term for what I said. Each business needs to weigh the >opportunity costs. For some it is better to buy, others to roll their >own. No, what you "say" is that there is nothing else productive that the sysAdmin can be doing. I can't imagine thats the case for most ISPs. Plus you have the unknown in the future when you install something loosely supported, which is another "cost" of how much downtime you'll have, or how much tech time will be wasted, because you didn't buy something reliable. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 14:08:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82F2716A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:08:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from srvdmz13.oekb.co.at (srvdmz13.oekb.co.at [143.245.5.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0995943D48 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:08:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Ewald.Jenisch@oekb.at) Received: from Unknown [143.245.2.191] by srvdmz13.oekb.co.at - SurfControl E-mail Filter (4.7); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:08:31 +0200 Received: from athena.oekb.co.at ([143.245.83.20]) by MAIL01.oekb.co.at with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:08:31 +0200 Received: from athena.oekb.co.at (athena.oekb.co.at [127.0.0.1]) by athena.oekb.co.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9TE8ewo005113 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:08:40 +0200 Received: (from ej@localhost) by athena.oekb.co.at (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i9TE8er2005112 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:08:40 +0200 Message-ID: <20041029140840.GA5085@athena.oekb.co.at> From: Ewald Jenisch To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:08:40 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Oct 2004 14:08:31.0234 (UTC) FILETIME=[C5284E20:01C4BDC0] User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Accessing partitions using FIXIT/Live-System-CDROM? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:08:35 -0000 Hi, After wiping out my system :-(, i.e. the root-partition and parts of /usr I'd like to rescue any data that might be left on the machine, like /home, /var etc. So I booted with the "Live-CDROM" (#2) and went to the Fixit Menu item. However I can't mount any paritions beside the original root-partition. To be specifc: My harddisk basically is one FreeBSD-slice, da0. da0 is divided into several partitions like da0s1a (root), da0s1h (home) etc. Using the live-system CD (fixit) I can do mount /dev/da0s1 /mnt (note it's da0s1, not da0s1a as I'd expected) However when trying to mount another partition (like "h") I get the following error: mount /dev/da0s1h /mnt3 mount: /dev/da0s1h: Operation not permitted Since there was no entry in /dev for da0s1h (only for da0s1, the complete slice), I set one up with mknod. This entry is exactly the same (major/minor) as the corresponding entry in my original /dev/da0s1h had which at that time is mounted as /mnt/dev. Even when having an entry for the partition in question (da0s1h in the example) I cant' mount that partition. Sure enough the data still seems to be there - the question for me is how do I mount these partitions so I can get the data off the machine before installing it from scratch? Thanks much in advance for any clue, -ewald From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 14:10:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3245E16A4CF for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:10:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (ns0.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B48CF43D1F for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:10:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) i9TEAE7L048163 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:10:14 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)i9TEAE2B048162; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:10:14 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:10:14 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: Petre Bandac Message-ID: <20041029141014.GB47544@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , Petre Bandac , Erik Norgaard , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20041029134329.13b0f2d3@xxl.rdsbv.ro> <418222D9.6060409@locolomo.org> <20041029160219.5c1ac7ee@xxl.rdsbv.ro> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="K8nIJk4ghYZn606h" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041029160219.5c1ac7ee@xxl.rdsbv.ro> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.5.6 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:10:14 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040904, clamav-milter version 0.75l on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk cc: Erik Norgaard cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports conflict X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:10:21 -0000 --K8nIJk4ghYZn606h Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 04:02:19PM +0300, Petre Bandac wrote: =20 > I get this error when portupgrading amavisd-new >=20 > xxl# pkg_info p5-Mysql-modules-1.2219 > [snip] > Required by: > amavisd-new-20040701 Yes. You've actually found quite a special case in the ports tree, where there are two different ports which are virtually interchangeable. The really cunning thing is that the ports system lets you do that -- when a port lists a dependency on another port, what it checks for at compile time is that a representative file or shlib is present on the system. It doesn't even look at the list of installed ports and try and compare against the pkg names. Thus taking amavisd-new as the example, if you compile it WITH_MYSQL, it has a RUN_DEPENDS as follows: RUN_DEPENDS+=3D ${SITE_PERL}/${PERL_ARCH}/Mysql.pm:${PORTSDIR}/databa= ses/p5-DBD-mysql After expanding all of those Make variables, that means the amavisd-new port checks for the existence of /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/mach/Mysql.pm to fulfil that dependency. The second part of the RUN_DEPENDS line, after the colon, is a /suggestion/ of which port to install to fill the dependency if that is needed. Note that it lists databases/p5-DBD-mysql -- but that on your system, you're using databases/p5-Mysql-modules instead. You don't have to use that particular port. You don't even have to fulfil the dependency using software installed via the ports system. What you will find though is that you will need to use pkgdb(1) to fix up the records for each installed package, as the pkg_install step can't do that automatically. =20 > and also there is another interesting thing: >=20 > xxl# use.perl --help > Usage: > /usr/local/bin/use.perl port -> /usr/bin/perl is the perl5 port > /usr/local/bin/use.perl system -> /usr/bin/perl is the system perl >=20 > perl has the same path for the system and port version Yes. That's so you can always put: #!/usr/bin/perl at the top of any perl script and have it work. If you examine /usr/bin/perl more closely, you'll see that it is infact a symbolic link to whatever the real binary is: % ls -l /usr/bin/perl=20 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 19 Jul 30 14:18 /usr/bin/perl@ -> /usr/local= /bin/perl Part of what the 'use.perl' script does is setup that link to point to the right place. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --K8nIJk4ghYZn606h Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBgk9GiD657aJF7eIRAneJAKCUXLo+L+tIbPZDWQZYX27dADhWxACfQD6G 8F4yVIZqJLl4dr05tGObtws= =QZEe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --K8nIJk4ghYZn606h-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 14:10:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9ED116A4FB for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:10:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D6DA043D1F for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:10:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krylon@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 4285 invoked by uid 65534); 29 Oct 2004 14:10:24 -0000 Received: from i53875AF8.versanet.de (EHLO [192.168.0.13]) (83.135.90.248) by mail.gmx.net (mp008) with SMTP; 29 Oct 2004 16:10:24 +0200 X-Authenticated: #685629 Message-ID: <41824F4F.50608@gmx.net> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:10:23 +0200 From: Benjamin Walkenhorst User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (X11/20041025) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Hadi Maleki-Baroogh References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: question.. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:10:26 -0000 Hadi Maleki-Baroogh wrote: > my freebsd system tries to start syslogd, panics on ffswrite, and > initiates a boot.. > it looks like it's continually cycling.. > > anyone know what can cause this? Not really. ;-? *Maybe*, just maybe, it is because syslog can't write. Maybe file/folder permissions are wrong, maybe filesystem flags like schg/uchg are active or the filesystem syslog tries to write to is mounted read-only... But there could, of course, be lots of other reasons as well. Maybe your harddisk is broken and the syslog-binary or the log-file or whatever is corrupted. Have you changed anything about the system recently? Try booting into single user mode and do an fsck. I found that if the system crashes too often without being able to do a fsck, at some point your filesystems become wrecked beyond hope for repair (5.2-RELEASE I was using at the time - though I have to note that the crashes were caused by faulty hardware). Also, on another machine, after crashing two times without being able to do a full fsck after the first crash, NetBSD 1.6.2-RC4 had somehow 'forgotten' about the disklabel. (Again, hardware issues) Kind regards, Benjamin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 14:19:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6090416A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:19:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (ei.xs4all.nl [213.84.67.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F43643D31 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:19:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (BOFH@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ei.bzerk.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i9TEKg2E015017; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:20:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: (from bulk@localhost) by ei.bzerk.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id i9TEKgWP015016; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:20:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:20:42 +0200 From: Ruben de Groot To: Gabriel Ambuehl Message-ID: <20041029142042.GA14912@ei.bzerk.org> References: <689835538.20041029142356@buz.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <689835538.20041029142356@buz.ch> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=failed version=3.0.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.0 (2004-09-13) on ei.bzerk.org cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Read only access to ALL files? Or: how do I safely backup the complete system to an offsite machine? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:19:33 -0000 On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 02:23:56PM +0200, Gabriel Ambuehl typed: > Hi, > I'm wondering if there is any way to have read only access to the whole > system for an user on STABLE (I have some ideas how to achieve it on > CURRENT but I don't consider that ready for production use just now)? > > Specifically, I want to be able to ssh in from the backup server and > fetch all files with rsync without having to give the backup server > full root access to all other machines (for obvious reasons). > > There's obviously a hack involving NFS and read only/maproot=root > but seeing that the backup server is offsite, I have to use ssh for > transport and would rather not resort to VPN hackery... > > Or maybe someone knows of a rsync version that is safe to be run a > suid root as it won't ever change anything on the filesystem? Users in the group "operators" have read-only access to the raw disk-devices in /dev. These devices are used by dump(8). All other backup strategies (tar, cpio, rsync, ..) work on the filesystem itself rather than the underlying device and will need root access. Ruben From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 14:23:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DB1116A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:23:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-m27.mx.aol.com (imo-m27.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC4B743D2F for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:23:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from TM4525@aol.com) Received: from TM4525@aol.com by imo-m27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id o.13c.4dfe782 (25305); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:22:57 -0400 (EDT) From: TM4525@aol.com Message-ID: <13c.4dfe782.2eb3ac41@aol.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:22:57 EDT To: davids@webmaster.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5114 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GPL vs BSD Licence X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:23:16 -0000 In a message dated 10/28/04 9:16:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, davids@webmaster.com writes: > But then, I'm not sure (and I mean it) if there can be any piece of > software which, if designed for e.g. Linux, can be written w/o using any > system headers, libraries or whatsoever. ------------------ I find it impossible for any reasonable person to believe that, by making its header files available an O/S vendor therefore owns the rights to anything that runs on, or interoperates with the O/S. So Microsoft owns Photoshop. And Netscape too. So why are they fighting? Its been fairly well established that Lawyers know a lot about law but not much about computing. You can't apply copyright law verbatim to an operating system, because unlike a written work, the operating systems entire purpose is to provide hooks for external applications and device drivers. Claiming that anything that works with it is a "derivative" is, quite simply, ridiculous. The GPL is a myth. It will never be tested because if it is, it will lose all of its teeth. Its much more useful in a speculative state. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 14:24:04 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 150B716A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:24:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (ns0.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 095C043D1F for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:24:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1])i9TENph5048322 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:23:51 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)i9TENpb0048321; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:23:51 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:23:51 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: Leroy van Logchem Message-ID: <20041029142351.GC47544@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , Leroy van Logchem , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <418247B7.3000902@wldelft.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="CblX+4bnyfN0pR09" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <418247B7.3000902@wldelft.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.5.6 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:23:52 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040904, clamav-milter version 0.75l on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to make the output of ps(1) aware of tty / pipe? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:24:04 -0000 --CblX+4bnyfN0pR09 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 03:37:59PM +0200, Leroy van Logchem wrote: > How to make the output of 'ps aux' for example aware of the output being= =20 > piped trough grep? > Now it breaks the lines while I would expect it to be just long lines. > (I don't want to loose the linebreaking feature by using a -ww alias or= =20 > something) Errr... that's what the -w flag to ps(1) is for. Without the -w flag, ps assumes it is printing to an 80 column terminal, and truncates the lines appropriately. With one -w flag, it assumes a 132 column terminal, and with more than one -w flag, ps assumes an unlimited number of columns are available. It does that whether or not the output is being displayed on the tty, written to a file or fed into a pipe. (Unlike, say, less(1), top(1) or ls(1) which can change their behaviour according to circumstances). Don't be confused by the line wrapping feature of the terminal: the output might look like it's split over several lines, but really it isn't. Compare and contrast the effects of: % ps -auxww | less % ps -auxww | less -S (Try hitting the left and right arrow keys while paging through the second set of output...) Generally, if you're grepping through the output of ps(1), you want all of the ps output to be there. The usual idiom is: % ps -auxww | grep foo Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --CblX+4bnyfN0pR09 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBglJ3iD657aJF7eIRAvb0AKCaZ32DyaNGpIlJlVA3gp+uRXtTUACeL/mg zCdVx95vf196qX+NB0fnb8Q= =q5Cg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --CblX+4bnyfN0pR09-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 14:24:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9489516A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:24:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-d21.mx.aol.com (imo-d21.mx.aol.com [205.188.144.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3302F43D31 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:24:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from TM4525@aol.com) Received: from TM4525@aol.com by imo-d21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id s.54.360226ec (25305); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:24:15 -0400 (EDT) From: TM4525@aol.com Message-ID: <54.360226ec.2eb3ac8f@aol.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:24:15 EDT To: tedm@toybox.placo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5114 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GPL vs BSD Licence X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:24:36 -0000 In a message dated 10/29/04 2:12:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time, tedm@toybox.placo.com writes: > Linus is just a big dope anyway, so who cares what he thinks? He's like > Kerry. He thinks whatever is convenient for him to think at the time. >And RMS is a lot like Bush who says whatever is convenient for him to >say at the time. >There - now we got the election dragged in! Shall we try for the Nazi's? >;-) Nah, we'll make the Jewish people uncomfortable. Lets talk about the French. Everyone hates the French..... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 14:46:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A810016A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:46:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A29843D5A for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:46:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsdnews@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so599989wri for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 07:46:18 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=IOGqr0lvP9uN2LzrA1VgS1FTPr4rnBaf4qnf1rwZsot6IDG9OwpQWpeaMVoCCGReJjmZnIibAd+bTcjMSMuj1K6c01mNspXy/e16jf89qIXY7rJQZWIeyivD1p2OwpjbkJUlWE86iP7/sM7Ek+xMGNS2zSiNnD3CcXon1lvGGU0= Received: by 10.54.30.19 with SMTP id d19mr164554wrd; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 07:46:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.26.36 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 07:46:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8292450b041029074678893664@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 09:46:18 -0500 From: CHris Rich To: questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Using extra patches with the ports collection and qmail-mysql X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: CHris Rich List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:46:24 -0000 Here's the story... I'm trying to compile qmail-mysql with a new patch that I have found. We've got a test mail server set up explicitly for trying this. Did some googling and asked a question on here earlier about how exactly you get a patch to compile with the ports collection. The answer was to put into the files folder of the port you are trying to install. Well qmail-mysql did not have the particular directory but after looking into the qmail directory I found such a folder. (This is after doing a make fetch WITH_BIG_CONCURRENCY=yes and make extract in the qmail-mysql port). We put our patch into the /usr/ports/mail/qmail/files directory and then did a make install. Once that was finished and finishing the other tasks of getting qmail to work we find that the patch didn't compile. It didn't do what we thought it would do. So my question is this...what did we do wrong? Should the patch have been somewhere else? This is the patch we were trying to use: http://www3.sympatico.ca/humungusfungus/code/validrcptto.html Version of FreeBSD is 5.2.1. Thanks in advance From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 14:53:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C9CE16A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:53:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from adsl-136-23.38-151.net24.it (adsl-136-23.38-151.net24.it [151.38.23.136]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B32F243D2D for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:53:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from enrico.sirola@statpro.com) Received: from SIROLA02 (sirola02.risk [192.168.1.2]) by adsl-136-23.38-151.net24.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEBAF1702D; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:53:21 +0200 (CEST) To: Choy Kho Yee References: <42734323-2522-11D9-8790-000A95BE58A4@tf7.so-net.ne.jp> From: sirola@fisica.unige.it Mail-Followup-To: Choy Kho Yee , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:53:21 +0200 In-Reply-To: <42734323-2522-11D9-8790-000A95BE58A4@tf7.so-net.ne.jp> (Choy Kho Yee's message of "Sun, 24 Oct 2004 03:35:05 +0900") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110002 (No Gnus v0.2) Emacs/21.3 (windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A good IDE for C development? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: sirola@fisica.unige.it List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:53:29 -0000 >>>>> "Choy" == Choy Kho Yee writes: Choy> Hi, I am a student of Computer Science. I am looking for a Choy> good IDE(integrated development environment?) for developing Choy> C programs. Something like netbeans for Java would be Choy> good. Since I am still learning, I will mainly develop with Choy> source codes. FYI, I am using emacs and a terminal now. Any Choy> recommendations would be appreciated. then switch to emacs + ecb ;-) http://ecb.sf.net Bye, e. -- Enrico Sirola From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 14:56:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BB5C16A4D9 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:55:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 929C643D1F for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:55:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 80so91351rnl for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 07:55:43 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=FZPLk+ggt2MCfDy0eA5IkGuvXsoTj6iCw4mK4lUamvR/3ptzj/hB8SPuVh/GYKhHrPVQfdRhJRv5XBOQOuU+oIKJ4X/oQLMei4u8XAbOplCxqGumEv51AT7uBnsvQUOj36DGEw6MhoqEfGJhWM1pDIt6DjNeWluZmmdGGdjgUbM= Received: by 10.38.206.23 with SMTP id d23mr270314rng; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 07:55:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.206.40 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 07:55:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:25:42 +0530 From: Subhro To: Jerry McAllister In-Reply-To: <200410291239.i9TCdn115898@clunix.cl.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200410291239.i9TCdn115898@clunix.cl.msu.edu> cc: tm4525@aol.com cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Troll (was: Development Resources) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Subhro List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:56:02 -0000 On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 08:39:49 -0400 (EDT), Jerry McAllister wrote: > Since you are more interested in insulting people than knowing > what you are talking about I suggest you grab some sort of > holy book - possibly an early MS-DOS manual and stand out on > the street corner and do your chants. Well said Jerry, Well said ROFLMAO Regards S. -- Subhro Sankha Kar School of Information Technology Block AQ-13/1 Sector V ZIP 700091 India From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 15:12:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E347416A4CF for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:12:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-02.rdc-nyc.rr.com (ms-smtp-02-smtplb.rdc-nyc.rr.com [24.29.109.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF81243D58 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:12:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from asolomon15@nyc.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (24-193-65-238.nyc.rr.com [24.193.65.238]) i9TFCFBM015382 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:12:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <41825DCE.5010206@nyc.rr.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:12:14 -0400 From: asolomon15 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (X11/20041003) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: starting apache2 just hangs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:12:19 -0000 I am having a problem starting my apache webserver. I had it running just fine but a few days ago I had a power outage. When trying to start the apache it will just hang there and not start at all. Anyone have any ideas? Antoine From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 15:50:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C515D16A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:50:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EE9E43D2F for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:50:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nomadlogic@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so609165wri for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 08:50:10 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=gj5b90ggRMw+iYIXoV+nMAY1zwQVKamps4RSSHDHMLZ5yY+CbVLuSi1biV2hB+y/YGllJ4fRl7/eRzXbVehwvQqtoeC9MEMUEI78ibfSBlAvinmWJpK6HUZjNJwLSZWohN6fJ06MY59/YPwKkzknYg45AqBHg/k/06xF890dEEk= Received: by 10.38.15.26 with SMTP id 26mr1012666rno; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 08:50:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.14.69 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 08:50:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <57d710000410290850280f4418@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 08:50:09 -0700 From: pete wright To: "Thordur I." In-Reply-To: <4131CFF8.6010608@mi.is> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable References: <4130ED88.8070200@mi.is> <4131CFF8.6010608@mi.is> cc: Subhro cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Software or hardware RAID1. (gstripe) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: pete wright List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:50:21 -0000 On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 12:45:44 +0000, Thordur I. wrote: > Subhro wrote: >=20 > >On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 20:39:36 +0000, Thordur I. wrote: > > > > > > > >>I think I will go for a hardware raid controler (RAID5 sounds good, but > >>my budget doesn=B4t really allow me to buy 2x new disks ;). > >> > >> > > > >Well, I would say... postpond your RAID for a few weeks and gather the > >money to buy the disks. On a mission critical system, a RAID -5 is > >really worth in both stability, performance and fault tolerance. > > > > > > > >>Btw. What hardware raid controlers (sata) do you listmembers recommend = ? > >> > >> > > > >There are very few things which really dont work under FreeBSD. Just > >some work out of the box and some needs a little attention like a > >misbehaved kid. The fact is, the more bucks you throw in, the better > >facilities u get. > > > > > > > >>I have read some positive things about the 3ware 9xxx and 8xxx series (= a > >>thread on -stable) > >> > >> > > > >Yeh, they work almost out of the box without any requirement for tweakin= g. > > > > > > > Actually, my situation is not "mission-critcal", still in a way it is. I > have decided to go for a RAID5 controler (3ware 9xxxx) and simple wait a > few weeks until I have gatherd the funds :) >=20 i have used the 3ware cards in various production environments and have a comments. They seem to work pretty well in a RAID5 config, altho I would not suggest using them in a stripe. The cache on the controller is just too small. You may see some negative impacts of the small cache in a RAID5 config under heavy I/O loads but with RAID5 slower I/O performance is to be expected. I believe the Adaptec IDE cards have a larger cache on the board, altho I'm not %100 on this. On the bright side the 3ware cards are pretty common and the "twe" driver seems rock solid on 4.x. I have not had a chance to play with the 9xxxx cards so I do not know how stable the driver for that device is. > When you say "almost" out of the box what do you mean ? > I think I=B4m right when I say that there are drivers ready for the 3ware > cards so I do not see why there are any proplems besides overstepping > the learning curve. >=20 In my experience if you have the driver enabled in your kernel (twe for the older 3ware cards) then the disk devices should be recognized. You actually build/configure the RAID's on the cards firmware before you load the OS, so there should not be *too* much to do w/in FreeBSD itself. > Anyway I think you and the other listmembers again for there input. >=20 have fun! -p >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" >=20 --=20 ~~o0OO0o~~ Pete Wright www.nycbug.org NYC's *BSD User Group From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 16:06:05 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B3EF16A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:06:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web50302.mail.yahoo.com (web50302.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.56]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E532443D54 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:06:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from claudiubichir@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20041029160531.96244.qmail@web50302.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [80.97.1.43] by web50302.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 09:05:31 PDT Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 09:05:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Claudiu Bichir To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Compatible NIC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:06:05 -0000 I want to buy a NIC and I want it to be compatible with FreeBSD. Is RealTek 8139 compatible with FreeBsd ? --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 16:08:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D64A016A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:08:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6DDB43D49 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:08:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd-questions@trini0.org) Received: from hivemind.trini0.org (trini0.org[65.34.205.195]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with ESMTP id <2004102916084601300bruoke>; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:08:46 +0000 Received: from [192.168.0.3] (gladiator.trini0.org [192.168.0.3]) by hivemind.trini0.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0DBD2A; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:08:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <41826B0F.3080308@trini0.org> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:08:47 -0400 From: Gerard Samuel User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (X11/20041015) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: asolomon15 References: <41825DCE.5010206@nyc.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <41825DCE.5010206@nyc.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: starting apache2 just hangs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:08:47 -0000 asolomon15 wrote: > I am having a problem starting my apache webserver. I had it running > just fine but a few days ago I had a power outage. When trying to > start the apache it will just hang there and not start at all. Anyone > have any ideas? Is some form of dns running? Usually, when my internal dns is down, programs like apache/kde will seem like they are hung at boot/start time... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 16:09:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 777E816A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:09:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from federation.addy.com (addy.com [208.11.142.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D003543D5A for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:09:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsdlist@federation.addy.com) Received: from localhost (fbsdlist@localhost) by federation.addy.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA87372 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:09:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from fbsdlist@federation.addy.com) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:09:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Cliff Addy To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Compile problem with gd-2.0.28 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:09:03 -0000 Trying to compile gd-2.0.28 under 4.9-RELEASE. I get the error ./.libs/libgd.so: undefined reference to `pthread_mutex_unlock' ./.libs/libgd.so: undefined reference to `pthread_mutex_destroy' ./.libs/libgd.so: undefined reference to `pthread_mutex_lock' ./.libs/libgd.so: undefined reference to `pthread_mutex_init' Looks to me like a bad reference to a threads library. Any ideas ... ? Cliff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 16:11:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F107C16A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:11:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mattvirushome.dynu.com (h139-055-212-202.adsl.navix.net [139.55.212.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BFDA43D1D for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:11:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mattvirus@navix.net) Received: from [192.168.0.27] (mattvirus.net [209.0.51.9]) i9TGBKUF048696; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:11:21 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from mattvirus@navix.net) Message-ID: <41826BBA.2010509@navix.net> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:11:38 -0500 From: matt virus User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Claudiu Bichir , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20041029160531.96244.qmail@web50302.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20041029160531.96244.qmail@web50302.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Compatible NIC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:11:24 -0000 Yes, it will work. The rl0 driver works fine. Be advised it's not the "greatest" NIC and you may drop packets under heavy load. I've never experienced packet loss, but I've read about it and others on the list have hinted at it before. Claudiu Bichir wrote: > I want to buy a NIC and I want it to be compatible with FreeBSD. > Is RealTek 8139 compatible with FreeBsd ? > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 16:12:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCA4216A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:12:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web41904.mail.yahoo.com (web41904.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.93.155]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AF36143D41 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:12:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ilkerozupak@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20041029161236.59047.qmail@web41904.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [193.140.41.19] by web41904.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 09:12:36 PDT Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 09:12:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Ilker Ozupak To: Claudiu Bichir , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20041029160531.96244.qmail@web50302.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Compatible NIC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:12:37 -0000 quick short answer : yes long answer: see hardware notes' it is listed there. RealTek 8129/8139 Fast Ethernet NICs ( rl(4) driver) --- Claudiu Bichir wrote: > I want to buy a NIC and I want it to be compatible > with FreeBSD. > Is RealTek 8139 compatible with FreeBsd ? > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 16:23:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0F5A16A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:23:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-d20.mx.aol.com (imo-d20.mx.aol.com [205.188.139.136]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30A2143D4C for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:23:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from TM4525@aol.com) Received: from TM4525@aol.com by imo-d20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id r.12f.4ef7e28f (3972); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:22:57 -0400 (EDT) From: TM4525@aol.com Message-ID: <12f.4ef7e28f.2eb3c860@aol.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:22:56 EDT To: claudiubichir@yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5114 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Compatible NIC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:23:24 -0000 In a message dated 10/29/04 12:13:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ilkerozupak@yahoo.com writes: >>quick sho> I want to buy a NIC and I want it to be compatible >> with FreeBSD. >> Is RealTek 8139 compatible with FreeBsd ? > >> rt answer : yes >long answer: >see hardware notes' it is listed there. > >RealTek 8129/8139 Fast Ethernet NICs ( rl(4) driver) Check the driver source. Any driver witten by Bill Paul should be avoided if possible. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 16:38:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A9E816A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:38:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-m26.mx.aol.com (imo-m26.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BCAA43D2D for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:38:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from TM4525@aol.com) Received: from TM4525@aol.com by imo-m26.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id m.e3.513bdda (3964); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:38:22 -0400 (EDT) From: TM4525@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:38:22 EDT To: micheal@tsgincorporated.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5114 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:38:39 -0000 > > The problem with dummynet is that once you do all the work and figure > > it all > > out, > > its still only marginally functional compared to something relatively > > inexpensive. > > So instead of buying the $3500 box that is everything you need, you've > > spend > > $800 > > on hardware, $2000 worth of time, and you still have something not > > nearly as > > good. > > One question, have you ever used dummynet? If so, I'm curious as to why > you find it only marginal. Not to be rude, but if you've not used it, > please stop trolling. > > -- > > Micheal Patterson > TSG Network Administration > 405-917-0600 One can tell by looking at the code that it won't scale. And I know more than 20 people who've been bitten on the butt by trying to use it, and then buying something when they hit the wall with it, or finding out it can't do what they need. The question is, have YOU used anything else? Or are you like the old woman who still washes her clothes in the river because "those darned mechanical things aren't worth it"? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 16:39:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65D7216A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:39:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.89]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5032543D3F for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:39:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin01-en2 [10.13.10.146]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id i9TGdPLU013371; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 09:39:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.1.1.245] (nfw2.codefab.com [199.103.21.225] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0)i9TGdOCQ016557; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 09:39:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <41822F3B.5070108@zaba.com> References: <20041028185347.GA1917@zaba-s-2.hpl.hp.com> <4181C1A2.2040707@mac.com> <41822F3B.5070108@zaba.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <16FF66C8-29C9-11D9-9599-003065ABFD92@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:39:23 -0400 To: Stefek Zaba X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: shutdown(8): supposed to dismount all FSes? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:39:28 -0000 On Oct 29, 2004, at 7:53 AM, Stefek Zaba wrote: > Chuck Swiger wrote: >> ...I recall that there are some issues handling ext2fs filesystems >> cleanly during the shutdown process, which tend to cause them to not >> be unmounted properly. It's considered a bug. > Thanks, Chuck. When I tried searching the PRs for this, I came up > blank; but your reply caused me to search harder, and indeed this is a > dup of 'PR kern/56675: Syncer "giving up" on buffers and ext2 > filesystems' > which is still Open, reported 10sep03. My experience suggests it's > still a problem with 5.3-RC1. You're certainly welcome, and I'm pleased that my memory was working well enough to be helpful. :-) > Obviously, on a "production" FreeBSD system, this bug is of minor > relevance, as you'll be running UFS throughouth. But for the > multibooters among us, who are looking (say) to straddle the Linux and > BSD worlds, being able to mount the "old" ext2/ext3 partitions > routinely is a Good Thing in easing the transition; so for such users > the bug is more important. You might find that unmounting the ext2/ext3 filesystem by hand before rebooting is an adequate workaround, since that ought to leave the filesystem in a clean state. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 16:41:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B696F16A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:41:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-m26.mx.aol.com (imo-m26.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 554A243D31 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:41:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from TM4525@aol.com) Received: from TM4525@aol.com by imo-m26.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id n.7e.5c3742d4 (3964) for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:41:18 -0400 (EDT) From: TM4525@aol.com Message-ID: <7e.5c3742d4.2eb3ccae@aol.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:41:18 EDT To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5114 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Re: dummynet X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:41:22 -0000 > > The problem with dummynet is that once you do all the work and figure > > it all > > out, > > its still only marginally functional compared to something relatively > > inexpensive. > > So instead of buying the $3500 box that is everything you need, you've > > spend > > $800 > > on hardware, $2000 worth of time, and you still have something not > > nearly as > > good. > > One question, have you ever used dummynet? If so, I'm curious as to why > you find it only marginal. Not to be rude, but if you've not used it, > please stop trolling. > > -- > > Micheal Patterson > TSG Network Administration > 405-917-0600 One can tell by looking at the code that it won't scale. And I know more than 20 people who've been bitten on the butt by trying to use it, and then buying something when they hit the wall with it, or finding out it can't do what they need. The question is, have YOU used anything else? Or are you like the old woman who still washes her clothes in the river because "those darned mechanical things aren't worth it"? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 16:57:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE74316A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:57:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.131.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C8A243D31 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:57:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: from filter02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (filter02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.131.177]) by relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E95410282; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:57:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.131.37]) [66.133.131.177]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 00655-31-60; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:57:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (67-137-46-138.dsl2.elk.ca.frontiernet.net [67.137.46.138]) by relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8CDB102E8; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:57:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [165.107.42.151] (unknown [165.107.42.151]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C280A3BF369; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 09:57:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4182767C.0@mykitchentable.net> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 09:57:32 -0700 From: Drew Tomlinson User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: james@tunasafedolphin.org, synrat@wirewalk.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms090700050000050202080705" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20040701 (2.0) (Debian) at filter02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dummynet X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:57:45 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms090700050000050202080705 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 10/28/2004 9:30 AM TM4525@aol.com wrote: >Why don't you guys stop torturing yourself and wasting $1000s worth >of your time and get yourself some real bandwidth management >software? Its cheaper in the long run. > > FWIW, I've taken this suggestion with a grain of salt, based upon the general tone of this person's previous posts on a variety of subjects. I suggest you search the archives and draw your own conclusion. 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Fri, 29 Oct 2004 17:02:00 +0000 (GMT) To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20041029170200.9B85416A4CF@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 17:02:00 +0000 (GMT) From: grog@FreeBSD.ORG (Greg Lehey) Subject: How to get best results from FreeBSD-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 17:02:00 -0000 How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions. =================================================== Last update $Date: 2004/09/19 02:40:48 $ This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD questions mailing list. If you got it in answer to a message you sent, it means that the sender thinks that at least one of the following things was wrong with your message: - You left out a subject line, or the subject line was not appropriate. - You formatted it in such a way that it was difficult to read. - You asked more than one unrelated question in one message. - You sent out a message with an incorrect date, time or time zone. - You sent out the same message more than once. - You sent an 'unsubscribe' message to FreeBSD-questions. If you have done any of these things, there is a good chance that you will get more than one copy of this message from different people. Read on, and your next message will be more successful. This document is also available on the web at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html. ===================================================================== Contents: I: Introduction II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions III: Should I ask -questions, -newbies or -hackers? IV: How to submit a question to FreeBSD-questions V: How to answer a question to FreeBSD-questions I: Introduction =============== This is a regular posting aimed to help both those seeking advice from FreeBSD-questions (the "newcomers"), and also those who answer the questions (the "hackers"). Note that the term "hacker" has nothing to do with breaking into other people's computers. The correct term for the latter activity is "cracker", but the popular press hasn't found out yet. The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking security, and have nothing to do with it. In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the different viewpoints of the two groups. The newcomers accused the hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers accused the newcomers of being stupid, unable to read plain English, and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter. Of course, there's an element of truth in both these claims, but for the most part these viewpoints come from a sense of frustration. In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration and help everybody get better results from FreeBSD-questions. In the following section, I recommend how to submit a question; after that, we'll look at how to answer one. II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions ============================================== When you subscribed to FreeBSD-questions, you got a welcome message from freebsd-questions-request@FreeBSD.ORG. In this message, amongst other things, it told you how to unsubscribe. Here's a typical message: Welcome to the freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list! If you ever want to unsubscribe or change your options (eg, switch to or from digest mode, change your password, etc.), visit your subscription page at: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-questions/me@me.org (obviously, substitute your mail address for "me@me.org"). You can also make such adjustments via email by sending a message to: freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org with the word 'help' in the subject or body (don't include the quotes), and you will get back a message with instructions. You must know your password to change your options (including changing the password, itself) or to unsubscribe. Normally, Mailman will remind you of your freebsd.org mailing list passwords once every month, although you can disable this if you prefer. This reminder will also include instructions on how to unsubscribe or change your account options. There is also a button on your options page that will email your current password to you. Here's the general information for the list you've subscribed to, in case you don't already have it: FREEBSD-QUESTIONS User questions This is the mailing list for questions about FreeBSD. You should not send "how to" questions to the technical lists unless you consider the question to be pretty technical. Normally, unsubscribing is even simpler than the message suggests: you don't need to specify your mail ID unless it is different from the one which you specified when you subscribed. If Majordomo replies and tells you (incorrectly) that you're not on the list, this may mean one of two things: 1. You have changed your mail ID since you subscribed. That's where keeping the original message from majordomo comes in handy. For example, the sample message above shows my mail ID as grog@lemis.de. Since then, I have changed it to grog@lemis.com. If I were to try to remove grog@lemis.com from the list, it would fail: I would have to specify the name with which I joined. 2. You're subscribed to a mailing list which is subscribed to FreeBSD-questions. If that's the case, you'll have to figure out which one it is and get your name taken off that one. If you're not sure which one it might be, check the headers of the messages you receive from freebsd-questions: maybe there's a clue there. If you've done all this, and you still can't figure out what's going on, send a message to Postmaster@FreeBSD.org, and he will sort things out for you. Don't send a message to FreeBSD-questions: they can't help you. III: Should I ask -questions, -newbies or -hackers? =================================================== Two mailing lists handle general questions about FreeBSD, FreeBSD-questions and FreeBSD-hackers. In addition, the FreeBSD-newbies list caters specifically for people who are new to FreeBSD and may be having trouble getting used to the environment. In some cases, it's not really clear which group you should ask. The following criteria should help for 99% of all questions, however: If the question is of a general nature, first check whether this isn't a Frequently Asked Question (FAQ). There's a list of these questions at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/index.html, and also on your own system (once you've installed it) at /usr/share/doc/en/books/faq/index.html. Check there, and if you don't find an answer, ask FreeBSD-questions. Examples might be questions about installing FreeBSD or the use of a particular UNIX utility. If you think the question relates to a bug, but you're not sure, or you don't know how to look for it, send the message to FreeBSD-questions. If the question relates to a bug, and you're almost sure that it's a bug (for example, you can pinpoint the place in the code where it happens, and you maybe have a fix), then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. You should also enter a problem report with the send-pr utility. If the question relates to enhancements to FreeBSD, and you can make suggestions about how to implement them, then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. If the question is of particularly technical nature, such as implementation details or suggestions for improvements, then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. If you're new to FreeBSD, and the message is about your own relationship to FreeBSD, send the message to FreeBSD-newbies. There are also a number of other specialized mailing lists, for example FreeBSD-isp, which caters to the interests of ISPs (Internet Service Providers) who run FreeBSD. If you happen to be an ISP, this doesn't mean you should automatically send your questions to FreeBSD-isp. The criteria above still apply, and it's in your interest to stick to them, since you're more likely to get good results that way. IV: How to submit a question ============================= When submitting a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider the following points: 1. Remember that nobody gets paid for answering a FreeBSD question. They do it of their own free will. You can influence this free will positively by submitting a well-formulated question supplying as much relevant information as possible. You can influence this free will negatively by submitting an incomplete, illegible, or rude question. It's perfectly possible to send a message to FreeBSD-questions and not get an answer even if you follow these rules. It's much more possible to not get an answer if you don't. In the rest of this document, we'll look at how to get the most out of your question to FreeBSD-questions. 2. Not everybody who answers FreeBSD questions reads every message: they look at the subject line and decide whether it interests them. Clearly, it's in your interest to specify a subject. ``FreeBSD problem'' or ``Help'' aren't enough. If you provide no subject at all, many people won't bother reading it. If your subject isn't specific enough, the people who can answer it may not read it. 3. When sending a new message, well, send a new message. Don't reply to some other message, erase the old content and change the subject line. That leaves an In-reply-to: header which many mail readers use to thread messages, so your message shows up as a reply to some other message. People often delete messages a whole thread at a time, so apart from irritating people, you also run a chance of having the message deleted unread. 4. Format your message so that it is legible, and PLEASE DON'T SHOUT!!!!!. We appreciate that a lot of people don't speak English as their first language, and we try to make allowances for that, but it's really painful to try to read a message written full of typos or without any line breaks. A lot of badly formatted messages come from bad mailers or badly configured mailers. The following mailers are known to send out badly formatted messages without you finding out about them: Eudora exmh Microsoft Exchange Microsoft Internet Mail Microsoft Outlook Netscape As you can see, the mailers in the Microsoft world are frequent offenders. If at all possible, use a UNIX mailer. If you must use a mailer under Microsoft environments, make sure it is set up correctly. Try not to use MIME: a lot of people use mailers which don't get on very well with MIME. For further information on this subject, check out http://www.lemis.com/email.html. 5. Make sure your time and time zone are set correctly. This may seem a little silly, since your message still gets there, but many of the people you are trying to reach get several hundred messages a day. They frequently sort the incoming messages by subject and by date, and if your message doesn't come before the first answer, they may assume they missed it and not bother to look. 6. Don't include unrelated questions in the same message. Firstly, a long message tends to scare people off, and secondly, it's more difficult to get all the people who can answer all the questions to read the message. 7. Specify as much information as possible. This is a difficult area, and we need to expand on what information you need to submit, but here's a start: If you get error messages, don't say ``I get error messages'', say (for example) ``I get the error message 'No route to host'''. If your system panics, don't say ``My system panicked'', say (for example) ``my system panicked with the message 'free vnode isn't'''. If you have difficulty installing FreeBSD, please tell us what hardware you have. In particular, it's important to know the IRQs and I/O addresses of the boards installed in your machine. If you have difficulty getting PPP to run, describe the configuration. Which version of PPP do you use? What kind of authentication do you have? Do you have a static or dynamic IP address? What kind of messages do you get in the log file? 8. If you don't get an answer immediately, or if you don't even see your own message appear on the list immediately, don't resend the message. Wait at least 24 hours. The FreeBSD mailer offloads messages to a number of subordinate mailers around the world, and sometimes it can take several hours for the mail to get through. And once it gets through, the one person who might know the answer will probably just have gone to bed in his part of the world. 9. If you do all this, and you still don't get an answer, there could be other reasons. For example, the problem is so complicated that nobody knows the answer, or the person who does know the answer was offline. If you don't get an answer after, say, a week, it might help to re-send the message. If you don't get an answer to your second message, though, you're probably not going to get one from this forum. Resending the same message again and again will only make you unpopular. To summarize, let's assume you know the answer to the following question (yes, it's the same one in each case :-). You choose which of these two questions you would be more prepared to answer: Message 1: Subject: (none) I just can't get hits damn silly FereBSD system to workd, and Im really good at this tsuff, but I have never seen anythign sho difficult to install, it jst wont work whatever I try so why don't y9ou guys tell me what I doing wrong. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message 2: Subject: Problems installing FreeBSD I've just got the FreeBSD 2.1.5 CD-ROM from Walnut Creek, and I'm having a lot of difficulty installing it. I have a 66 MHz 486 with 16 MB of memory and an Adaptec 1540A SCSI board, a 1.2GB Quantum Fireball disk and a Toshiba 3501XA CD-ROM drive. The installation works just fine, but when I try to reboot the system, I get the message "Missing Operating System". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- V: How to follow up to a question ================================= Often you will want to send in additional information to a question you have already sent. The best way to do this is to reply to your original message. This has three advantages: 1. You include the original message text, so people will know what you're talking about. Don't forget to trim unnecessary text out, though. 2. The text in the subject line stays the same (you did remember to put one in, didn't you?). Many mailers will sort messages by subject. This helps group messages together. 3. The message reference numbers in the header will refer to the previous message. Some mailers, such as mutt, can thread messages, showing the exact relationships between the messages. VI: How to answer a question ============================ Before you answer a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider: 1. A lot of the points on submitting questions also apply to answering questions. Read them. 2. Has somebody already answered the question? The easiest way to check this is to sort your incoming mail by subject: then (hopefully) you'll see the question followed by any answers, all together. If somebody has already answered it, it doesn't automatically mean that you shouldn't send another answer. But it makes sense to read all the other answers first. 3. Do you have something to contribute beyond what has already been said? In general, "Yeah, me too" answers don't help much, although there are exceptions, like when somebody is describing a problem he's having, and he doesn't know whether it's his fault or whether there's something wrong with the hardware or software. If you do send a "me too" answer, you should also include any further relevant information. 4. Are you sure you understand the question? Very frequently, the person who asks the question is confused or doesn't express himself very well. Even with the best understanding of the system, it's easy to send a reply which doesn't answer the question. This doesn't help: you'll leave the person who submitted the question more frustrated or confused than ever. If nobody else answers, and you're not too sure either, you can always ask for more information. 5. Are you sure your answer is correct? If not, wait a day or so. If nobody else comes up with a better answer, you can still reply and say, for example, "I don't know if this is correct, but since nobody else has replied, why don't you try replacing your ATAPI CD-ROM with a frog?". 6. Unless there's a good reason to do otherwise, reply to the sender and to FreeBSD-questions. Many people on the FreeBSD-questions are "lurkers": they learn by reading messages sent and replied to by others. If you take a message which is of general interest off the list, you're depriving these people of their information. Be careful with group replies; lots of people send messages with hundreds of CCs. If this is the case, be sure to trim the Cc: lines appropriately. 7. Include relevant text from the original message. Trim it to the minimum, but don't overdo it. It should still be possible for somebody who didn't read the original message to understand what you're talking about. 8. Use some technique to identify which text came from the original message, and which text you add. I personally find that prepending ``> '' to the original message works best. Leaving white space after the ``> '' and leave empty lines between your text and the original text both make the result more readable. 9. Put your response in the correct place (after the text to which it replies). It's very difficult to read a thread of responses where each reply comes before the text to which it replies. 10. Most mailers change the subject line on a reply by prepending a text such as ``Re: ''. If your mailer doesn't do it automatically, you should do it manually. 11. If the submitter didn't abide by format conventions (lines too long, inappropriate subject line), please fix it. In the case of an incorrect subject line (such as ``HELP!!??''), change the subject line to (say) ``Re: Difficulties with sync PPP (was: HELP!!??)''. That way other people trying to follow the thread will have less difficulty following it. In such cases, it's appropriate to say what you did and why you did it, but try not to be rude. If you find you can't answer without being rude, don't answer. If you just want to reply to a message because of its bad format, just reply to the submitter, not to the list. You can just send him this message in reply, if you like. $Id: Howto-ask-questions,v 1.5 2004/09/19 02:40:48 grog Exp $ _______________________________________________ Thanks to Josh Paetzel for updating this document to describe mailman. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 17:02:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 645) id A1BE516A4D0; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 17:02:00 +0000 (GMT) To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20041029170200.A1BE516A4D0@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 17:02:00 +0000 (GMT) From: grog@FreeBSD.ORG (Greg Lehey) Subject: "The Complete FreeBSD": errata and addenda X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 17:02:00 -0000 The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page or any other online documentation. The result is that most leading edge computer books are out of date almost before they are printed. Unfortunately, The Complete FreeBSD, published by O'Reilly, is no exception. Inevitably, a number of bugs and changes have surfaced. "The Complete FreeBSD" has been through a total of five editions, including its predecessor "Installing and Running FreeBSD". Two of these have been reprinted with corrections. I maintain a series of errata pages. Start at http://www.lemis.com/errata-4.html to find out how to get the errata information. Have you found a problem with the book, or maybe something confusing? Please let me know: I'm constantly updating it. Greg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 17:17:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CF5216A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 17:17:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from iota.root-servers.ch (iota.root-servers.ch [193.41.193.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7507443D31 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 17:17:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gabriel_ambuehl@buz.ch) Received: (qmail 1165 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2004 17:17:31 -0000 Received: from 80-218-104-238.dclient.hispeed.ch (HELO ga) (80.218.104.238) by 0 with SMTP; 29 Oct 2004 17:17:31 -0000 Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 19:19:02 +0200 From: Gabriel Ambuehl Organization: BUZ Internet Services X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <4710007355.20041029191902@buz.ch> To: Ruben de Groot In-Reply-To: <20041029142042.GA14912@ei.bzerk.org> References: <689835538.20041029142356@buz.ch> <20041029142042.GA14912@ei.bzerk.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: Read only access to ALL files? Or: how do I safely backup the complete system to an offsite machine? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: gabriel_ambuehl@buz.ch List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 17:17:33 -0000 Hello Ruben, Friday, October 29, 2004, 4:20:42 PM, you wrote: >> Or maybe someone knows of a rsync version that is safe to be run a >> suid root as it won't ever change anything on the filesystem? > Users in the group "operators" have read-only access to the raw > disk-devices in /dev. These devices are used by dump(8). > All other backup strategies (tar, cpio, rsync, ..) work on the > filesystem itself rather than the underlying device and will need > root access. Now if only dump would be of any use for backups over slow links. Ah well, I'm gonna come up with some hack, eventually ;-) Best regards, Gabriel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 17:23:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1904116A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 17:23:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9340643D31 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 17:23:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:20:12 -0500 Message-ID: <41827CA4.4030001@daleco.biz> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:23:48 -0500 From: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041023 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Charles Swiger References: <20041028185347.GA1917@zaba-s-2.hpl.hp.com> <4181C1A2.2040707@mac.com> <41822F3B.5070108@zaba.com> <16FF66C8-29C9-11D9-9599-003065ABFD92@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <16FF66C8-29C9-11D9-9599-003065ABFD92@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Oct 2004 17:20:12.0888 (UTC) FILETIME=[8CAD6D80:01C4BDDB] cc: Stefek Zaba cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: shutdown(8): supposed to dismount all FSes? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 17:23:49 -0000 Charles Swiger wrote: > On Oct 29, 2004, at 7:53 AM, Stefek Zaba wrote: > >> Chuck Swiger wrote: >> >>> ...I recall that there are some issues handling ext2fs filesystems >>> cleanly during the shutdown process, which tend to cause them to not >>> be unmounted properly. It's considered a bug. >> >> Thanks, Chuck. When I tried searching the PRs for this, I came up >> blank; but your reply caused me to search harder, and indeed this is >> a dup of 'PR kern/56675: Syncer "giving up" on buffers and ext2 >> filesystems' >> which is still Open, reported 10sep03. My experience suggests it's >> still a problem with 5.3-RC1. > > > You're certainly welcome, and I'm pleased that my memory was working > well enough to be helpful. :-) > >> Obviously, on a "production" FreeBSD system, this bug is of minor >> relevance, as you'll be running UFS throughouth. But for the >> multibooters among us, who are looking (say) to straddle the Linux >> and BSD worlds, being able to mount the "old" ext2/ext3 partitions >> routinely is a Good Thing in easing the transition; so for such users >> the bug is more important. > > > You might find that unmounting the ext2/ext3 filesystem by hand before > rebooting is an adequate workaround, since that ought to leave the > filesystem in a clean state. > Hmm, hate to come into this late, and perhaps with no good reason, but I have experienced this recently with a 200GB **ufs** volume: $uname -a FreeBSD archangel.daleco.biz 5.3-RC1 FreeBSD 5.3-RC1 #0: Wed Oct 20 10:10:40 CDT 2004 root@archangel.daleco.biz:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 $mount /dev/ad0s1a on / (ufs, local) devfs on /dev (devfs, local) /dev/ad0s1e on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/ad0s1d on /var (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/ad1s1d on /backup (ufs, local, soft-updates) $sudo tail /var/log/dmesg.today Timecounter "TSC" frequency 2404108844 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec ipfw2 initialized, divert enabled, rule-based forwarding disabled, default to deny, logging disabled ad0: 38166MB [77545/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA100 ad1: 190782MB [387621/16/63] at ata0-slave UDMA100 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a WARNING: /backup was not properly dismounted Accounting enabled I rebooted the box via gdm on :0:0 (ttyv0) yesterday after viewing the initial posts of this thread. If there is a chance I'm doing something wrong, I'd appreciate someone with knowledge letting me know ... OTOH, if there is a bug in 5.3 that's not been fixed (I currently am browing the CVS logs at freebsd.org, but hardly know where to look on this issue) related to **ufs**, perhaps we ought to ring a bell somewhere? Kevin Kinsey DaleCo, S.P. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 17:45:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BE1916A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 17:45:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BB9043D58 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 17:45:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:41:52 -0500 Message-ID: <418281B9.7000707@daleco.biz> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:45:29 -0500 From: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041023 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: TM4525@aol.com References: <12f.4ef7e28f.2eb3c860@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <12f.4ef7e28f.2eb3c860@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Oct 2004 17:41:53.0341 (UTC) FILETIME=[93CECED0:01C4BDDE] cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Compatible NIC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 17:45:29 -0000 TM4525@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 10/29/04 12:13:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >ilkerozupak@yahoo.com writes: > > > >>>quick sho> I want to buy a NIC and I want it to be compatible >>>with FreeBSD. >>>Is RealTek 8139 compatible with FreeBsd ? >>> >>> >>>rt answer : yes >>> >>> >>long answer: >>see hardware notes' it is listed there. >> >>RealTek 8129/8139 Fast Ethernet NICs ( rl(4) driver) >> >> > >Check the driver source. Any driver witten by Bill Paul should be avoided >if possible. > ***plonk*** [1] [2] [3] Kevin Kinsey DaleCo, S.P. [1] I am in no way associated with the FreeBSD Project or Foundation, nor America Online, not Time-Warner, etc. I am not a lawyer, nor a doctor, and I have never "acted" like anything but myself when on television.... [2] I am in no wise recommending that anyone **else** add this address to their "killfile". [3] If you need help in configuring message rules for your particular MUA, there are lots of _nice_ folks on the lists who will be happy to give assistance... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 17:57:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E52F16A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 17:57:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kweetal.tue.nl (kweetal.tue.nl [131.155.3.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 351F343D45 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 17:57:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stijn@pcwin002.win.tue.nl) Received: by kweetal.tue.nl (Postfix, from userid 40) id 2290613B75E; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 19:57:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pcwin002.win.tue.nl (pcwin002.win.tue.nl [131.155.71.72]) by kweetal.tue.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D919413B706; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 19:57:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from stijn@localhost) by pcwin002.win.tue.nl (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id i9THvlM4038949; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 19:57:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from stijn) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 19:57:47 +0200 From: Stijn Hoop To: claudiubichir@yahoo.com Message-ID: <20041029175747.GB7071@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> References: <12f.4ef7e28f.2eb3c860@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <12f.4ef7e28f.2eb3c860@aol.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Bright-Idea: Let's abolish HTML mail! X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on kweetal.tue.nl X-Spam-DCC: : kweetal.tue.nl 1074; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=6.3 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 X-Spam-Level: cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Compatible NIC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 17:57:53 -0000 --ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 12:22:56PM -0400, TM4525@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 10/29/04 12:13:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time,=20 > ilkerozupak@yahoo.com writes: >=20 > >>quick sho> I want to buy a NIC and I want it to be compatible > >> with FreeBSD. > >> Is RealTek 8139 compatible with FreeBsd ? > >=20 > >> rt answer : yes >=20 > >long answer: > >see hardware notes' it is listed there. > > > >RealTek 8129/8139 Fast Ethernet NICs ( rl(4) driver) >=20 > Check the driver source. Any driver witten by Bill Paul should be avoided > if possible.=20 Or you can do what any remotely sane person does, which is ignoring the crap that the previous poster writes and just use the driver. --Stijn --=20 "An adult is a child who has more ethics and morals, that's all." -- Shigeru Miyamoto --ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBgoSbY3r/tLQmfWcRAuSRAJ0UFkhy8zYXWVB2G4j+fOMrGYs4mACeNZtQ r4oS28ODawKVlXOdPXsXzaU= =Phmy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 18:15:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E300716A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:15:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from palrel10.hp.com (atorelbas01.hp.com [156.153.255.245]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F54543D39 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:15:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jason.sheets@hp.com) Received: from cacexg11.americas.cpqcorp.net (cacexg11.americas.cpqcorp.net [16.92.1.67]) by palrel10.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C9EFFFE5 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:15:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from idbexc01.americas.cpqcorp.net ([16.88.97.3]) by cacexg11.americas.cpqcorp.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:14:46 -0700 Received: from 15.39.101.170 ([15.39.101.170]) by idbexc01.americas.cpqcorp.net ([16.88.97.3]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:14:45 +0000 Received: from jsheets-ux.boi.hp.com by idbexc01.americas.cpqcorp.net; 29 Oct 2004 12:14:45 -0600 From: Jason Sheets To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <1099073685.609.11.camel@jsheets-ux.boi.hp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:14:45 -0600 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Oct 2004 18:14:46.0215 (UTC) FILETIME=[2BBB7D70:01C4BDE3] Subject: Sound Card Volume isn't adjustable (Sis 7012/snd_ich) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:15:21 -0000 Hello everyone, I'm having trouble controlling the sound level of my sound card, specifically volume adjustments using mixer and other volume control tools don't change the actual volume. For example when playing a MP3 at 1% volume the sound is unbearably loud and moving the volume to 100% doesn't affect the volume, at 0% there is no sound. I have tried using mixer with no -f argument and also tried adjusting the volume for each dsp entry in /dev with no effect. Configuration: OS: 5.3-RC1 FreeBSD 5.3-RC1 #2: Fri Oct 29 10:30:21 MDT 2004 Sound Card: ASuS P48SX onboard audio Driver: snd_ich, sound card detected as SiS 7012, driver loaded via kldload dmesg: pcm0: port 0x9000-0x907f,0x9400-0x94ff irq 18 at device 2.7 on pci0 pcm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] pcm0: kldstat 1 12 0xc0400000 4ffbe4 kernel 2 14 0xc0900000 537f0 acpi.ko 3 1 0xc1c67000 5000 linprocfs.ko 4 1 0xc1c70000 17000 linux.ko 5 1 0xc1e36000 5000 snd_ich.ko 6 1 0xc1e3b000 18000 sound.ko cat /dev/sndstat FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) Installed devices: pcm0: at io 0x9400, 0x9000 irq 18 bufsz 16384 kld snd_ich (1p/1r/2v channels duplex default) [pcm0:play:0]: spd 44100/48000, fmt 0x10000010, flags 0x00003020, 0x00000010 interrupts 45586, underruns 7126, ready 0 {userland} -> feeder_vchan_s16(0x10000010) -> feeder_rate(44100 -> 48000) -> {hardware} [pcm0:record:0]: spd 48000, fmt 0x00000008/0x10000010, flags 0x00000000, 0x00000000 interrupts 0, overruns 0, hfree 16384, sfree 131072 {hardware} -> feeder_root(0x10000010) -> feeder_sign16le(0x10000010 -> 0x10000080) -> feeder_stereotomono16(0x10000080 -> 0x00000080) -> feeder_16leto8(0x00000080 -> 0x00000008) -> {userland} pcm0:play:0[pcm0:virtual:0]: spd 32000/48000, fmt 0x00000010/0x10000010, flags 0x10003030, 0x00000010, pid 34433 interrupts 0, underruns 0, ready 65536 {userland} -> feeder_root(0x00000010) -> feeder_monotostereo16(0x00000010 -> 0x10000010) -> feeder_rate(32000 -> 48000) -> {hardware} pcm0:play:0[pcm0:virtual:1]: spd 8000/48000, fmt 0x00000008/0x10000010, flags 0x10000000, 0x00000010 interrupts 0, underruns 0, ready 0 {userland} -> feeder_root(0x00000008) -> feeder_sign8(0x00000008 -> 0x00000040) -> feeder_monotostereo8(0x00000040 -> 0x10000040) -> feeder_8to16le(0x10000040-> 0x10000010) -> feeder_rate(8000 -> 48000) -> {hardware} File Versions: $FreeBSD: src/sys/dev/sound/pci/ich.c,v 1.42.2.2 2004/10/07 18:38:55 ps Exp $ $FreeBSD: src/sys/dev/sound/isa/sndbuf_dma.c,v 1.2 2003/09/07 16:28:02 cg Exp $ $FreeBSD: src/sys/dev/sound/pcm/vchan.c,v 1.16 2004/01/28 08:02:15 truckman Exp $ $FreeBSD: src/sys/dev/sound/pcm/ac97_patch.c,v 1.2 2003/08/21 15:44:55 orion Exp $ $FreeBSD: src/sys/dev/sound/pcm/feeder.c,v 1.32 2003/09/07 16:28:03 cg Exp $ $FreeBSD: src/sys/dev/sound/pcm/sound.c,v 1.92 2004/07/16 03:59:09 tanimura Exp $ $FreeBSD: src/sys/dev/sound/pcm/fake.c,v 1.13 2003/09/07 16:28:03 cg Exp $ $FreeBSD: src/sys/dev/sound/pcm/sndstat.c,v 1.17.2.1 2004/09/14 06:43:46 truckman Exp $ $FreeBSD: src/sys/dev/sound/pcm/dsp.c,v 1.77 2004/07/02 15:31:44 netchild Exp $ $FreeBSD: src/sys/dev/sound/pcm/mixer.c,v 1.40 2004/06/25 16:34:33 josef Exp $ $FreeBSD: src/sys/dev/sound/pcm/ac97.c,v 1.51 2004/05/08 03:41:40 sanpei Exp $ $FreeBSD: src/sys/dev/sound/pcm/feeder_rate.c,v 1.10 2003/04/20 17:08:56 orion Exp $ $FreeBSD: src/sys/dev/sound/pcm/channel.c,v 1.97 2004/02/28 19:47:02 truckman Exp $ $FreeBSD: src/sys/dev/sound/pcm/feeder_fmt.c,v 1.13 2003/09/07 16:28:03 cg Exp $ $FreeBSD: src/sys/dev/sound/pcm/buffer.c,v 1.23 2004/04/29 02:51:59 green Exp $ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 18:21:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAF5C16A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:21:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.datausa.com (ns1.datausa.com [216.150.220.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9067043D45 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:21:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@wcubed.net) Received: (qmail 81594 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2004 18:20:37 -0000 Received: from web.datausa.com (HELO webmail.wcubed.net) (216.150.220.132) by mail.datausa.com with SMTP; 29 Oct 2004 18:20:37 -0000 Received: from 67.165.234.240 (SquirrelMail authenticated user freebsd@wcubed.net) by webmail.wcubed.net with HTTP; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:15:45 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <2614.67.165.234.240.1099073745.squirrel@webmail.wcubed.net> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:15:45 -0600 (MDT) From: "Brad Waite" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Subject: Building part of world X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:21:29 -0000 I'm trying to update my sys/pci/if_sk.c and would like to be able to build several versions without having to build the entire world. How would I do that? Thanks, Brad Waite From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 18:37:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DA2416A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:37:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AFFC43D5C for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:37:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.12.11/8.13.1) id i9TIbgvW041655; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:37:42 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:37:42 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Brad Waite Message-ID: <20041029183742.GB76157@dan.emsphone.com> References: <2614.67.165.234.240.1099073745.squirrel@webmail.wcubed.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2614.67.165.234.240.1099073745.squirrel@webmail.wcubed.net> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.3-BETA7 X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Building part of world X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:37:44 -0000 In the last episode (Oct 29), Brad Waite said: > I'm trying to update my sys/pci/if_sk.c and would like to be able to > build several versions without having to build the entire world. Since that's a kernel driver, you only have to build a new kernel. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 18:50:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B570116A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:50:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from tomoyo.MyBSD.org.my (duke.void.net.my [202.157.186.223]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EAE843D46 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:50:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from skywizard@time.net.my) Received: from kasumi.MyBSD.org.my (unknown [219.95.135.242]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by tomoyo.MyBSD.org.my (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23BED6CC23; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 02:54:17 +0800 (MYT) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 02:50:24 +0800 From: Ariff Abdullah To: Jason Sheets Message-Id: <20041030025024.7932648f.skywizard@time.net.my> In-Reply-To: <1099073685.609.11.camel@jsheets-ux.boi.hp.com> References: <1099073685.609.11.camel@jsheets-ux.boi.hp.com> Organization: MyBSD X-Mailer: /usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/net/smtp.rb Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sound Card Volume isn't adjustable (Sis 7012/snd_ich) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:50:06 -0000 On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:14:45 -0600 Jason Sheets wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I'm having trouble controlling the sound level of my sound card, > specifically volume adjustments using mixer and other volume control > tools don't change the actual volume. > > For example when playing a MP3 at 1% volume the sound is unbearably > loud and moving the volume to 100% doesn't affect the volume, at 0% > there is no sound. > > I have tried using mixer with no -f argument and also tried > adjusting the volume for each dsp entry in /dev with no effect. > > Configuration: > > OS: 5.3-RC1 FreeBSD 5.3-RC1 #2: Fri Oct 29 10:30:21 MDT 2004 > Sound Card: ASuS P48SX onboard audio > > Driver: snd_ich, sound card detected as SiS 7012, driver loaded via > kldload > > dmesg: > > pcm0: port 0x9000-0x907f,0x9400-0x94ff irq 18 at device > 2.7 on pci0 > pcm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > pcm0: > > kldstat > > 1 12 0xc0400000 4ffbe4 kernel > 2 14 0xc0900000 537f0 acpi.ko > 3 1 0xc1c67000 5000 linprocfs.ko > 4 1 0xc1c70000 17000 linux.ko > 5 1 0xc1e36000 5000 snd_ich.ko > 6 1 0xc1e3b000 18000 sound.ko > > cat /dev/sndstat > > FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) > Installed devices: > pcm0: at io 0x9400, 0x9000 irq 18 bufsz 16384 kld snd_ich > (1p/1r/2v channels duplex default) > [pcm0:play:0]: spd 44100/48000, fmt 0x10000010, flags > 0x00003020, 0x00000010 > interrupts 45586, underruns 7126, ready 0 > {userland} -> feeder_vchan_s16(0x10000010) -> > feeder_rate(44100 > -> 48000) -> {hardware} > [pcm0:record:0]: spd 48000, fmt 0x00000008/0x10000010, flags > 0x00000000, 0x00000000 > interrupts 0, overruns 0, hfree 16384, sfree 131072 > {hardware} -> feeder_root(0x10000010) -> > feeder_sign16le(0x10000010 -> 0x10000080) -> > feeder_stereotomono16(0x10000080 -> 0x00000080) -> > feeder_16leto8(0x00000080 -> 0x00000008) -> {userland} > pcm0:play:0[pcm0:virtual:0]: spd 32000/48000, fmt > 0x00000010/0x10000010, flags 0x10003030, 0x00000010, pid 34433 > interrupts 0, underruns 0, ready 65536 > {userland} -> feeder_root(0x00000010) -> > feeder_monotostereo16(0x00000010 -> 0x10000010) -> feeder_rate(32000 > -> 48000) -> {hardware} > pcm0:play:0[pcm0:virtual:1]: spd 8000/48000, fmt > 0x00000008/0x10000010, flags 0x10000000, 0x00000010 > interrupts 0, underruns 0, ready 0 > {userland} -> feeder_root(0x00000008) -> > feeder_sign8(0x00000008 > -> 0x00000040) -> feeder_monotostereo8(0x00000040 -> 0x10000040) -> > feeder_8to16le(0x10000040-> 0x10000010) -> feeder_rate(8000 -> > 48000) ->{hardware} > > File Versions: > $FreeBSD: src/sys/dev/sound/pci/ich.c,v 1.42.2.2 2004/10/07 18:38:55 > ps Exp $ > $FreeBSD: src/sys/dev/sound/isa/sndbuf_dma.c,v 1.2 2003/09/07 > 16:28:02 cg Exp $ > $FreeBSD: src/sys/dev/sound/pcm/vchan.c,v 1.16 2004/01/28 08:02:15 > truckman Exp $ > $FreeBSD: src/sys/dev/sound/pcm/ac97_patch.c,v 1.2 2003/08/21 > 15:44:55 orion Exp $ > $FreeBSD: src/sys/dev/sound/pcm/feeder.c,v 1.32 2003/09/07 16:28:03 > cg Exp $ > $FreeBSD: src/sys/dev/sound/pcm/sound.c,v 1.92 2004/07/16 03:59:09 > tanimura Exp $ > $FreeBSD: src/sys/dev/sound/pcm/fake.c,v 1.13 2003/09/07 16:28:03 cg > Exp$ > $FreeBSD: src/sys/dev/sound/pcm/sndstat.c,v 1.17.2.1 2004/09/14 > 06:43:46 truckman Exp $ > $FreeBSD: src/sys/dev/sound/pcm/dsp.c,v 1.77 2004/07/02 15:31:44 > netchild Exp $ > $FreeBSD: src/sys/dev/sound/pcm/mixer.c,v 1.40 2004/06/25 16:34:33 > josef Exp $ > $FreeBSD: src/sys/dev/sound/pcm/ac97.c,v 1.51 2004/05/08 03:41:40 > sanpei Exp $ > $FreeBSD: src/sys/dev/sound/pcm/feeder_rate.c,v 1.10 2003/04/20 > 17:08:56 orion Exp $ > $FreeBSD: src/sys/dev/sound/pcm/channel.c,v 1.97 2004/02/28 19:47:02 > truckman Exp $ > $FreeBSD: src/sys/dev/sound/pcm/feeder_fmt.c,v 1.13 2003/09/07 > 16:28:03 cg Exp $ > $FreeBSD: src/sys/dev/sound/pcm/buffer.c,v 1.23 2004/04/29 02:51:59 > green Exp $ > Try this patch: http://staff.mybsd.org.my/skywizard/FreeBSD/ac97.c.diff -- Ariff Abdullah MyBSD http://www.MyBSD.org.my (IPv6/IPv4) http://staff.MyBSD.org.my (IPv6/IPv4) http://tomoyo.MyBSD.org.my (IPv6/IPv4) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 18:51:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E719D16A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:51:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-m19.mx.aol.com (imo-m19.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C61A43D41 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:51:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from TM4525@aol.com) Received: from TM4525@aol.com by imo-m19.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id n.6d.36fada32 (3972); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:51:35 -0400 (EDT) From: TM4525@aol.com Message-ID: <6d.36fada32.2eb3eb37@aol.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:51:35 EDT To: JohnsoBS@vicksburg.navy.mil MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5114 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Compatible NIC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:51:43 -0000 In a message dated 10/29/04 1:13:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, JohnsoBS@vicksburg.navy.mil writes: >> >RealTek 8129/8139 Fast Ethernet NICs ( rl(4) driver) >> >> Check the driver source. Any driver witten by Bill Paul >> should be avoided >> if possible. > > >What the hell man. Do you have anything better to do than troll? >Every responce I have read from you seems something written out >of a ad or some buzz of slashdot or something you saw and thought >you would spew your techy knowledge. If you have a specific reason >you feel a specific driver should be avoided, please voice it. Ok. Bill Paul is an academic who was contracted to write a zillion drivers for FreeBSD. He basically cut and pasted them all, barely tested them, and when he was "done" he didn't support them. Read his comments and you'll know that he was more concerned with getting "done" than doing a good job. His goal was just to do them. I've tested most of them. Have you? Have you done anything except listen to a bunch of idiots on this list who are as far from a real network engineers that they can be? Bill Paul himself proclaimed that "the realtek chip is the worst controller ever created", but you idiots wholeheartedly recommend it, as if ethernet cards and drivers are generic, interchangeable parts. You guys claim to "help" people. Part of helping them is steering them away from bad drivers, bad hardware and bad versions of the OS, IMO. I just voiced my opinion. If you want to use them, feel free. Use 5.2.1. with the rl driver. Have the slowest server on the block. What do I care? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 19:10:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94C4A16A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 19:10:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-m15.mx.aol.com (imo-m15.mx.aol.com [64.12.138.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 234BE43D31 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 19:10:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from TM4525@aol.com) Received: from TM4525@aol.com by imo-m15.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id n.149.372eec36 (25305) for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:10:11 -0400 (EDT) From: TM4525@aol.com Message-ID: <149.372eec36.2eb3ef92@aol.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:10:10 EDT To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5114 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Re: GPL vs BSD Licence X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 19:10:23 -0000 In a message dated 10/29/04 12:38:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, db@db.net writes: > > > The GPL and Linux don't care if you link into their system libraries, > > they expect that which is why the system libraries are LGPLd ... > If I write a piece of code that uses a defined interface, it's utterly > preposterous to argue that it is derivative from an *implementation* of that > interface, since it could be used with *any* implementation of that > interface. Its equally "preposterous" for the GPLers to claim that anything that works with any O/S is owned by the owner of the OS as a "derivative work". But they do, and they will, because it suits them. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 19:18:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAC5F16A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 19:18:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (mail.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A06043D46 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 19:18:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from volkere@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from mailhost.cs.tu-berlin.de (postfix@mail.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.13]) by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.9.3p2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA18626 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 21:18:20 +0200 (MEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailhost.cs.tu-berlin.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCFE7F20D for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 21:18:19 +0200 (MEST) Received: from mailhost.cs.tu-berlin.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bueno [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10224) with ESMTP id 04591-37 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 21:18:19 +0200 (MEST) Received: from conde.cs.tu-berlin.de (conde.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.40]) by mailhost.cs.tu-berlin.de (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 21:18:19 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from volkere@localhost)i9TJIJpP001280 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 21:18:19 +0200 (MEST) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 21:18:18 +0200 From: Volker Eckert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041029191818.GA1199@conde.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <20041029125759.26932.qmail@web52501.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041029125759.26932.qmail@web52501.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cs.tu-berlin.de Subject: Re: 5.2.1, installed Mozilla -- X reverses background colors when used!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 19:18:23 -0000 On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 05:57:59AM -0700, Bill Schoolcraft wrote: > ... > I have run 5.2.1 successfully on many machines and X is actually > working fine except when I use Mozilla as installed from ports. > > The whole background turns into a "negative" and so does the Mozilla > browser. All returns to normal once I exit Mozilla. > ... since nobody else replied... my 2 cents: maybe your X is running with too few colours? is it changing the colours when you change the focus? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 19:26:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B963716A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 19:26:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ECC043D39 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 19:26:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A57D351448; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:28:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:28:22 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: TM4525@aol.com Message-ID: <20041029192822.GA12854@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <6d.36fada32.2eb3eb37@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="pf9I7BMVVzbSWLtt" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6d.36fada32.2eb3eb37@aol.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: JohnsoBS@vicksburg.navy.mil cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Compatible NIC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 19:26:59 -0000 --pf9I7BMVVzbSWLtt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 02:51:35PM -0400, TM4525@aol.com wrote: > I just voiced my opinion. If you want to use them, feel free. Use 5.2.1.= =20 > with the rl driver. Have the slowest server on the block. What do=20 > I care?=20 A lot, apparently; if you didn't care you wouldn't say anything. How much do you say your time is worth, again? You must have "donated" hundreds of dollars worth of your "caring" to the mailing list over the past few weeks. Unfortunately, valuing the time of others in the same way, you've also cost the user community many thousands of dollars reading your strangely-embittered commentary. Kris --pf9I7BMVVzbSWLtt Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBgpnWWry0BWjoQKURAlNPAJ4ugsJpkUbnK5T2NCTb4oL3HnoN+wCfblpF fVpsvk6dS6Tz3W8zjuXGM7A= =ylIG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --pf9I7BMVVzbSWLtt-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 19:29:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C89316A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 19:29:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pd2mo2so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4432643D49 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 19:29:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from flowers@nekulturny.org) Received: from pd2mr8so.prod.shaw.ca (pd2mr8so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.11])2004)) with ESMTP id <0I6D00K1F25L0560@l-daemon> for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:29:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml5so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.149]) by pd2mr8so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0I6D0058M25K5M10@pd2mr8so.prod.shaw.ca> for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:29:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from procyon.nekulturny.org (S0106000c41b2b9a3.cg.shawcable.net [68.144.45.143]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.18 (built Jul 28 2003)) with ESMTP id <0I6D00GF825KRL@l-daemon> for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:29:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from procyon.nekulturny.org (localhost.nekulturny.org [127.0.0.1]) i9TJTiE1004268; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:29:44 -0600 (MDT envelope-from flowers@nekulturny.org) Received: (from flowers@localhost) by procyon.nekulturny.org (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i9TJThBV004267; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:29:43 -0600 (MDT envelope-from flowers) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:29:43 -0600 From: Danny MacMillan In-reply-to: <8292450b041029074678893664@mail.gmail.com> To: CHris Rich Message-id: <20041029192943.GA741@procyon.nekulturny.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline References: <8292450b041029074678893664@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Using extra patches with the ports collection and qmail-mysql X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 19:29:45 -0000 On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 08:46:18AM -0600, CHris Rich wrote: > Here's the story... > > I'm trying to compile qmail-mysql with a new patch that I have found. > We've got a test mail server set up explicitly for trying this. Did > some googling and asked a question on here earlier about how exactly > you get a patch to compile with the ports collection. The answer was > to put into the files folder of the port you are trying to install. > Well qmail-mysql did not have the particular directory but after > looking into the qmail directory I found such a folder. (This is after > doing a make fetch WITH_BIG_CONCURRENCY=yes and make extract in the > qmail-mysql port). We put our patch into the > /usr/ports/mail/qmail/files directory and then did a make install. > Once that was finished and finishing the other tasks of getting qmail > to work we find that the patch didn't compile. It didn't do what we > thought it would do. > > So my question is this...what did we do wrong? Should the patch have > been somewhere else? This is the patch we were trying to use: > http://www3.sympatico.ca/humungusfungus/code/validrcptto.html > Version of FreeBSD is 5.2.1. > > Thanks in advance I'm no expert on this, but I'll give it a go... I believe the name of the patch is significant. It =must= be called patch-somethingorother. I would follow the naming conventions of the patches already present. (I believe the patches are applied in lexical filename order). I don't know if you've named the patch correctly or not. Also, it seems that the patch needs to be adjusted to work within the context of its location in the ports tree. The very first things I see when I look at the patch are references to files in the relative path ../qmail-1.03-patched/ Since it would seem that neither that directory nor the files within exist when FreeBSD applies the patches, I doubt the patch is properly applied. :) As long as all other things are equal (but remember, Spock said "Things are not equal,") you should just be able to adjust the paths to the patched files to match their actual location. If things are not equal, you might have to make other changes to the Makefile patch (in particular) to get it to play nicely in the FreeBSD environment. It shouldn't be too hard, the patch looks quite compact. Disclaimer: This could all be complete nonsense, and probably is. -- Danny From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 19:34:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2275816A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 19:34:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F323F43D1D for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 19:34:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3004D52C13; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:35:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:35:32 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Danny MacMillan Message-ID: <20041029193532.GA13047@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <8292450b041029074678893664@mail.gmail.com> <20041029192943.GA741@procyon.nekulturny.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041029192943.GA741@procyon.nekulturny.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: CHris Rich cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Using extra patches with the ports collection and qmail-mysql X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 19:34:09 -0000 --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 01:29:43PM -0600, Danny MacMillan wrote: > Disclaimer: This could all be complete nonsense, and probably is. Looks right to me.. Kris --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBgpuDWry0BWjoQKURAgKLAJ488rmP4H1DYPrqHidotFpXEYSNDgCfdTrx 1Kj2rBJGmYng7bqrR9yt9W4= =v6ZB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 19:54:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3340F16A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 19:54:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (hobbiton.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14C3643D1D for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 19:54:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.161.247.57] (helo=[192.168.99.66]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.43) id 1CNcpL-000MTR-Jy for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:54:24 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) In-Reply-To: <149.372eec36.2eb3ef92@aol.com> References: <149.372eec36.2eb3ef92@aol.com> Message-Id: <5345D611-29E4-11D9-A439-003065A70D30@shire.net> From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:54:21 -0600 To: FreeBSD-questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.161.247.57 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.0 (2004-09-13) on hobbiton.shire.net X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.0.0 X-Spam-Level: X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.1+cvs (built Mon, 23 Aug 2004 08:44:05 -0700) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on hobbiton.shire.net) Subject: Re: GPL vs BSD Licence X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 19:54:25 -0000 On Oct 29, 2004, at 1:10 PM, TM4525@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 10/29/04 12:38:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > db@db.net > writes: >> >>> The GPL and Linux don't care if you link into their system libraries, >>> they expect that which is why the system libraries are LGPLd > ... >> If I write a piece of code that uses a defined interface, it's >> utterly >> preposterous to argue that it is derivative from an *implementation* >> of that >> interface, since it could be used with *any* implementation of that >> interface. > Its equally "preposterous" for the GPLers to claim that anything that > works > with any O/S is owned by the owner of the OS as a "derivative work". > But > they do, and they will, because it suits them. It is not just the GPL folks. SCO is doing the same thing to IBMs code. Code totally removed from SCOs SysVR4 code is being claimed by SCO as a derivative work. I am not trying to open up a discussion on SCO. Just to point out that this phenomenon is not restricted to the GPL fanatics. Chad From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 20:26:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C3A916A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:26:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [195.170.0.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BD4543D54 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:26:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-b163.otenet.gr [212.205.244.171]) i9TKQ6qG007436; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:26:07 +0300 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i9TKQ5LY001414; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:26:05 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id i9TKQ5fU001413; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:26:05 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:26:05 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Brad Waite Message-ID: <20041029202605.GC1046@gothmog.gr> References: <2614.67.165.234.240.1099073745.squirrel@webmail.wcubed.net> <20041029183742.GB76157@dan.emsphone.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041029183742.GB76157@dan.emsphone.com> cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Building part of world X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:26:10 -0000 On 2004-10-29 13:37, Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Oct 29), Brad Waite said: > > I'm trying to update my sys/pci/if_sk.c and would like to be able to > > build several versions without having to build the entire world. > > Since that's a kernel driver, you only have to build a new kernel. An even better approach in the case of a single kernel driver is to leave it commented out in the kernel config file. Then it will be built as a module by default. After at least one buildworld/buildkernel cycle has finished correctly with this configuration, you can use the already populated /usr/obj tree to build just this module: # cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf # config -g -d /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL MYKERNEL # cd /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL # make depend && make && make install If you have only touched a single .c file, the 'make depend' step is AFAIK optional. The rest should finish pretty fast. Brave people might even get away by building the sk module only, by emulating the specific part of the kernel build: # cd /usr/src/sys/modules/sk # env MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/tmp/sk \ KMODDIR=/boot/kernel DEBUG_FLAGS="-g" MACHINE=i386 \ KERNBUILDDIR="/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL" make obj # env MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/tmp/sk \ KMODDIR=/boot/kernel DEBUG_FLAGS="-g" MACHINE=i386 \ KERNBUILDDIR="/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL" make all If all this works, you can just kldload the new if_sk.ko from `/tmp/sk/usr/src/sys/modules/sk' to test your changes. HTH, Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 20:29:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F99316A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:29:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.web-1hosting.net (mail.web-1hosting.net [63.123.79.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1938B43D31 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:29:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from security@adtu.org) Received: from [192.168.168.243] (spencer-900-31.iowaone.net [12.167.40.62]) by mail.web-1hosting.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B6902D812F for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:29:11 -0500 (CDT) From: Aaron Sloan To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1099064349.252.9.camel@slick.slickhome.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:39:09 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: problems starting apache13-modssl X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:29:12 -0000 hello, I'm trying to get apache13-modssl running and I can't seem to accomplish it. ps -aux after reboot gives me a an entry of "readproctitle service errors....." How does one do this or where do I look? I'm running 4.10. Thanks, Aaron From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 20:33:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DB1216A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:33:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wiliweld.com (adsl-63-204-157-14.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.204.157.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BA9143D53 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:33:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bill@wiliweld.com) Received: from bsd.billschoolcraft.com (unknown [192.168.1.11]) by corten8.billschoolcraft.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C78C438B9; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:16:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:16:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Schoolcraft X-X-Sender: bill@bsd.billschoolcraft.com To: Gert Cuykens In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20041025131640.S16408@bsd.billschoolcraft.com> References: System-ID: [en] (I; FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE #0 x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: photoshop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:33:10 -0000 At Mon, 25 Oct 2004 it looks like Gert Cuykens composed: > What is the best aplication on freebsd for editing pictures ? GIMP -- Bill Schoolcraft | Life's journey is not to arrive at the PO Box 210076 | grave safely in a well preserved body, San Francisco,CA 94121 | but rather to skid in sideways, totally http://billschoolcraft.com | spent, yelling "holy shit, what a ride!" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 20:33:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 637F916A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:33:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wiliweld.com (adsl-63-204-157-14.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.204.157.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3365F43D3F for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:33:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from runfreebsd@yahoo.com) Received: from bsd.billschoolcraft.com (unknown [192.168.1.11]) by corten8.billschoolcraft.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A29A5438C1; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:59:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:59:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Schoolcraft X-X-Sender: bill@bsd.billschoolcraft.com To: Volker Eckert In-Reply-To: <20041029191818.GA1199@conde.cs.tu-berlin.de> Message-ID: <20041029125553.B37394@bsd.billschoolcraft.com> References: <20041029125759.26932.qmail@web52501.mail.yahoo.com> <20041029191818.GA1199@conde.cs.tu-berlin.de> System-ID: [en] (I; FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE #0 x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.2.1, installed Mozilla -- X reverses background colors when used!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:33:10 -0000 At Fri, 29 Oct 2004 it looks like Volker Eckert composed: > On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 05:57:59AM -0700, Bill Schoolcraft wrote: > > ... > > I have run 5.2.1 successfully on many machines and X is actually > > working fine except when I use Mozilla as installed from ports. > > > > The whole background turns into a "negative" and so does the Mozilla > > browser. All returns to normal once I exit Mozilla. > > ... > > since nobody else replied... my 2 cents: > maybe your X is running with too few colours? is it changing the > colours when you change the focus? Thanks for your reply, What happens is "all is fine" with Opera, and Konqueror web browsers but once I start Mozilla, all hell breaks loose... It's like looking at a negative of a picture, whites turn black and the reversal of all colors, I can't describe to you the color changes for I was never aware of how much whole desktop can change. I mean EVERYTHING including the toolbars etc. I may go and install 4.10 and see what happens. 4.10 failed to install when the installation kernel hit the parallel port... Install/Kernel just wedged shut. -- Bill Schoolcraft | Life's journey is not to arrive at the PO Box 210076 | grave safely in a well preserved body, San Francisco,CA 94121 | but rather to skid in sideways, totally http://billschoolcraft.com | spent, yelling "holy shit, what a ride!" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 20:33:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A3A316A4CF for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:33:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wiliweld.com (adsl-63-204-157-14.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.204.157.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A42343D53 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:33:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bill@wiliweld.com) Received: from bsd.billschoolcraft.com (unknown [192.168.1.11]) by corten8.billschoolcraft.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 329A5438C0; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:18:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:18:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Schoolcraft X-X-Sender: bill@bsd.billschoolcraft.com To: Gert Cuykens In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20041025131803.F16408@bsd.billschoolcraft.com> References: System-ID: [en] (I; FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE #0 x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: photoshop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:33:10 -0000 At Mon, 25 Oct 2004 it looks like Gert Cuykens composed: > What is the best aplication on freebsd for editing pictures ? (A) cd /usr/ports/graphics/gimp (B) make install -- Bill Schoolcraft | Life's journey is not to arrive at the PO Box 210076 | grave safely in a well preserved body, San Francisco,CA 94121 | but rather to skid in sideways, totally http://billschoolcraft.com | spent, yelling "holy shit, what a ride!" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 20:36:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9B8316A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:36:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wiliweld.com (adsl-63-204-157-14.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.204.157.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91B9743D39 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:36:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bill@wiliweld.com) Received: from bsd.billschoolcraft.com (unknown [192.168.1.11]) by wiliweld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E9D5438B9; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:36:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:36:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Schoolcraft X-X-Sender: bill@bsd.billschoolcraft.com To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <20041029133430.A38496@bsd.billschoolcraft.com> System-ID: [en] (I; FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE #0 x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: Volker Eckert Subject: Re: 5.2.1, installed Mozilla -- X reverses background colors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:36:40 -0000 At Fri, 29 Oct 2004 it looks like Volker Eckert composed: > On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 05:57:59AM -0700, Bill Schoolcraft > wrote: > > ... > > I have run 5.2.1 successfully on many machines and X is > > actually > > working fine except when I use Mozilla as installed from > > ports. > > > > The whole background turns into a "negative" and so does the > > Mozilla > > browser. All returns to normal once I exit Mozilla. > > ... > > since nobody else replied... my 2 cents: > maybe your X is running with too few colours? is it changing the > colours when you change the focus? Thanks for your reply, What happens is "all is fine" with Opera, and Konqueror web browsers but once I start Mozilla, all hell breaks loose... It's like looking at a negative of a picture, whites turn black and the reversal of all colors, I can't describe to you the color changes for I was never aware of how much whole desktop can change. I mean EVERYTHING including the toolbars etc. I may go and install 4.10 and see what happens. 4.10 failed to install when the installation kernel hit the parallel port... Install/Kernel just wedged shut. -- Bill Schoolcraft | Life's journey is not to arrive at the PO Box 210076 | grave safely in a well preserved body, San Francisco,CA 94121 | but rather to skid in sideways, totally http://billschoolcraft.com | spent, yelling "holy shit, what a ride!" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 20:44:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4558F16A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:44:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC25E43D2F for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:44:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsdnews@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so647741wri for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:44:28 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=PhKleKopeHJAPLwdRZe6/VxxCukWDRHl2+rebBhD3wzDh/St1oFTO4YGXm+4yTrkMEXck7WVmgCPhuK5Tw4wA/1e8JnbeSPOoYrEYapiP073Up9dHz2TTDvqG8XqURlyxulXcaVZ6hk7XzXQXShTC183ww6Uq0YI6rUdWd8bOo4= Received: by 10.54.35.9 with SMTP id i9mr176895wri; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:44:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.26.36 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:44:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8292450b0410291344320571f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:44:28 -0500 From: CHris Rich To: Kris Kennaway In-Reply-To: <20041029193532.GA13047@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <8292450b041029074678893664@mail.gmail.com> <20041029192943.GA741@procyon.nekulturny.org> <20041029193532.GA13047@xor.obsecurity.org> cc: Danny MacMillan cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Using extra patches with the ports collection and qmail-mysql X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: CHris Rich List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:44:38 -0000 Ah I love this mailing list....thanks for the suggestions will try them as soon as possible. On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:35:32 -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 01:29:43PM -0600, Danny MacMillan wrote: > > > Disclaimer: This could all be complete nonsense, and probably is. > > Looks right to me.. > > Kris > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 20:50:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7641616A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:50:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lilzmailso02.liwest.at (lilzmailso02.liwest.at [212.33.55.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD14C43D48 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:50:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dgw@liwest.at) Received: from cm248-230.liwest.at ([81.10.248.230]) by lilzmailso02.liwest.at with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1CNdhp-0006Q3-FI; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:50:41 +0200 From: Daniela To: Benjamin Walkenhorst Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:51:40 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.3 References: <200410282113.34529.dgw@liwest.at> <41814A0F.7050909@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <41814A0F.7050909@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410292251.40307.dgw@liwest.at> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Strange file appeared in my home directory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: dgw@liwest.at List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:50:30 -0000 On Thursday 28 October 2004 19:35, Benjamin Walkenhorst wrote: > Hello, > > Daniela wrote: > >I noticed a file called "regs" in my home directory (which is 21 megs in > > size) and I have no clue where it comes from. The file format is not > > recognized by any of the common tools. The creation date was about four > > days ago, so if I created it, I would have remembered. > >I looked at the file with the hexeditor and it seems to consist of lots of > >four-byte values which look like addresses on the stack of an application. > > I've never heard of such a thing happening... > > >About half an hour before the creation date there were numerous failed > > login attempts on the SSH port (all from the same IP), but my logs didn't > > show any signs of an intrusion. > >However, I suspect that I've been hacked. > > Well, /if/ someone intruded your system, she/he surely would remove all > possible evidence > (unless it's someone *really* stupid). It's perfectly possible to forget a file. Maybe the intruder saw me logging in and was too busy with deleting the logfiles before I notice it. > If your machine was compromised, I suggest, you take it offline *now* > and inspect it > thoroughly. There is a piece of software called "The Coroner's Toolkit" > (TCK) which I > think is made for that. I quickly checked my system with the native FreeBSD tool "chkrootkit". It showed the following files as infected: ps, ls, date, chsh and chfn. Now I'm really scared. However, I heard that this tool has a bug which gives false alarm for five files, but I don't know if I have a buggy version. > More easily, you can checksum your system files and compare them with a > clean install. > If you have recent backups, you can use these at well. That's not so easy for me, because I'm tracking -STABLE and have debug symbols everywhere. I do have backups, but currently I don't have the time for that. Moreover, I planned to reformat anyway as soon as 5.3 is out. > If you are afraid a rootkit might have been installed - I don't know if > these exist for FreeBSD, > but I wouldn't be surprised... - you should consider booting from > trusted media and inspecting > the system, since sometimes root kits hide the intruder's files (at > least for systems like Linux > and Solaris, but again, I don't think FreeBSD will be much different in > that regard). > > >There was another strange occurence: > >Yesterday my internet connection went down without a particular reason. > >I tested a few other configurations and rebooted multiple times, and after > > the fifth reboot (with the usual settings restored) it suddenly worked > > again. > > Mmmh. Maybe your provider just had some problem... Who knows? Unlikely, because other people with the same ISP didn't have problems. > >Also there were quite a few crashes. > > Unless you have a static IP, it would be quite hard for the intruder to > get in again. > (OTOH, I don't think it would be hard to make a system send a message to > the internet > upon connection) Of course I have a static IP, I'm running an SSH server. [...] > It is after all still posibble that it's just... I don't know... > something really weird. Sometimes > applications will create such things for no apparent reason (from a > users point of view at > least). Of course, this would be unusual, but not impossible. I don't think this is the reason. On the creation day I didn't run any programs other than the ones I already know, and no one except me has root (hopefully this is still the case). > Still, if you have security-concerns, I suggest you take the box offline > and examine it. > As a side-effect, this is probably very interesting. Thanks for your reply! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 20:54:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D96F16A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:54:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp012.mail.yahoo.com (smtp012.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7FEC443D2F for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:54:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lloyd545220-trucker@yahoo.com) Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.59.4.144?) (wyoming?antelope@205.240.194.166 with plain) by smtp012.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Oct 2004 20:54:19 -0000 Message-ID: <4182ADF8.3000209@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:54:16 -0600 From: Lloyd Hayes User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040803 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Xi Graphics on 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:54:19 -0000 I recently downloaded FreeBSD 5.3. I was trying to figure out how to setup the Xserver. In reading the FAQ on X Projects, I see this ad for Xi Graphics. I went to their website and there are notices there that say they are not supporting FreeBSD except for custom projects. -- Lloyd Hayes Email: lloyd545220-trucker@yahoo.com URL: http://TalkingStaff.bravehost.com E-FAX Number: (208) 248-6590 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 21:06:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F4DD16A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 21:06:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from limicola.its.uu.se (limicola.its.uu.se [130.238.7.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BA8343D45 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 21:06:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ante@Update.UU.SE) Received: by limicola.its.uu.se (Postfix, from userid 205) id B23524F17; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:06:15 +0200 (MSZ) Received: from limicola.its.uu.se(127.0.0.1) by limicola.its.uu.se via virus-scan id s2593; Fri, 29 Oct 04 23:06:03 +0200 Received: from Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE [130.238.19.25]) by limicola.its.uu.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 102024997 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:06:03 +0200 (MSZ) Received: by Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Postfix, from userid 30086) id 0423538013; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:06:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Postfix) with ESMTP id 032045C002 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:06:03 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:06:02 +0200 (CEST) From: Andreas Davour To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Sound volume in KDE3.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 21:06:18 -0000 Since I did my last cvsup I have had many annoying problems, many related to firefox. This about KDE is even more annoying. So, is there any permanent solution to the KDE setting my volume to 0? I saw some reply to the problem about removing a file somewhere, which didn't stop the volume from reset to zero after a reboot. Can I make kmix remember my settings somehow? I'm beginning to tired of running kmix every time I start up just to raise the volume. /Andreas -- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 21:07:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 171D316A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 21:07:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from chen.org.nz (chen.org.nz [210.54.19.51]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB03943D67 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 21:07:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: by chen.org.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 000DFC13E; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 10:07:31 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 10:07:31 +1300 From: Jonathan Chen To: Daniela Message-ID: <20041029210731.GA15001@grimoire.chen.org.nz> References: <200410282113.34529.dgw@liwest.at> <41814A0F.7050909@gmx.net> <200410292251.40307.dgw@liwest.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200410292251.40307.dgw@liwest.at> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Strange file appeared in my home directory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 21:07:34 -0000 On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 10:51:40PM +0000, Daniela wrote: [...] > I quickly checked my system with the native FreeBSD tool "chkrootkit". It > showed the following files as infected: ps, ls, date, chsh and chfn. > Now I'm really scared. However, I heard that this tool has a bug which gives > false alarm for five files, but I don't know if I have a buggy version. FreeBSD doesn't come with chrootkit. The one in the ports reports so many false positives that it is practically useless. I wouldn't depend on it to make any decision. Having said this, if you're worried about system tampering, all you really need to do is to grab an installation CD; backup /etc, and reinstall the kernel, libraries and binaries, restore /etc and you're away. Cheers. -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "Irrationality is the square root of all evil" - Douglas Hofstadter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 21:13:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 617A816A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 21:13:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lilzmailso01.liwest.at (lilzmailso01.liwest.at [212.33.55.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E797E43D1F for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 21:13:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dgw@liwest.at) Received: from cm248-230.liwest.at ([81.10.248.230]) by lilzmailso01.liwest.at with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1CNe3h-0001oC-JZ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:13:17 +0200 From: Daniela To: Miguel Mendez Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:14:16 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.3 References: <200410282113.34529.dgw@liwest.at> <20041028214443.2694d707.flynn@energyhq.es.eu.org> In-Reply-To: <20041028214443.2694d707.flynn@energyhq.es.eu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410292314.16426.dgw@liwest.at> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Strange file appeared in my home directory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: dgw@liwest.at List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 21:13:06 -0000 On Thursday 28 October 2004 19:44, Miguel Mendez wrote: > On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:13:34 +0000 > Daniela wrote: > > Hi, > > > I noticed a file called "regs" in my home directory (which is 21 megs > > in size) and I have no clue where it comes from. The file format is > > not recognized by any of the common tools. The creation date was about > > four days ago, so if I created it, I would have remembered. > > I've never seen such file, my guess is that anyone breaking into someone > else's computer would hide his stuff, but you never know. Google didn't > turn any useful hit either. With this and the rest of your post I have > reasons to believe that you haven't been broken into. However, if you're > suspicious you could back up the 'evidence', in this case the regs file > and other unsual stuff you might find, wipe the system out and reinstall > and restore date from a good backup. > > > I looked at the file with the hexeditor and it seems to consist of > > lots of four-byte values which look like addresses on the stack of an > > application. > > What do those values look like? AFAIK the stack normally begins at (little endian) 0x40FCBFBF, and the file is full of values that are just a bit less than that, and there are also many values that are small enough to be indexes to arrays. There are no printable ASCII strings in it, and the whole file seems to be aligned on a 4-byte boundary. [...] > > However, I suspect that I've been hacked. There was another strange > > occurence: Yesterday my internet connection went down without a > > particular reason. I tested a few other configurations and rebooted > > multiple times, and after the fifth reboot (with the usual settings > > restored) it suddenly worked again. There seem to be no unusual > > processes running, but when I'm hacked, I can't trust the tools on my > > system any more. Also there were quite a few crashes. > > Do you run any services on that box besides ssh? > Apache/Sendmail/Whathaveyou? Anything unusual in the logs? I have numerous services active within my LAN, but none except SSH is reachable from outside. I regularly verify this by portscanning my machine from somewhere else. My local users can be trusted. > > Has anyone seen this file too? > > In case anyone wants to know, the offending IP was 200.84.78.83. > > That IP resolves to 200-84-78-83.genericrev.cantv.net, either a > compromised Windows box or a script-kiddiot computer, too lazy to nmap > it now :) I already tried to do a portscan, but the box either has a good firewall, or it is always offline. Thanks for your reply! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 21:16:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E32FC16A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 21:16:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.owt.com (smtp.owt.com [204.118.6.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BC6043D1F for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 21:16:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from [207.41.94.233] (owt-207-41-94-233.owt.com [207.41.94.233]) by smtp.owt.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i9TLG1Lc008862; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:16:02 -0700 From: Kent Stewart To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:16:20 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410291416.20734.kstewart@owt.com> cc: Andreas Davour Subject: Re: Sound volume in KDE3.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 21:16:23 -0000 On Friday 29 October 2004 02:06 pm, Andreas Davour wrote: > Since I did my last cvsup I have had many annoying problems, many > related to firefox. This about KDE is even more annoying. > > So, is there any permanent solution to the KDE setting my volume to 0? > I saw some reply to the problem about removing a file somewhere, which > didn't stop the volume from reset to zero after a reboot. > > Can I make kmix remember my settings somehow? I'm beginning to tired of > running kmix every time I start up just to raise the volume. > That is one of the configuration options. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 21:20:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A996416A52A for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 21:20:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55BF943D1D for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 21:20:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id v30so97893rnb for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:20:01 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=LbF+3euClLJysnGweC1B68cd8TJsceQhqGQIqsTmKkXWs9Jp1SRvUyeBLCFA2Ss07q/wOzaO4ims2Mmic/aAMhTrxYqnYVSbws1dOKPWQxCdfVUTRuAf4jL/ZcbkNGJSKXFMSoO0YRMVGfNLnSSaDKxnBYxIjD6/M9Ee7Lp9C/M= Received: by 10.38.98.30 with SMTP id v30mr490766rnb; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.206.40 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 02:50:01 +0530 From: Subhro To: Kris Kennaway In-Reply-To: <20041029192822.GA12854@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <6d.36fada32.2eb3eb37@aol.com> <20041029192822.GA12854@xor.obsecurity.org> cc: tm4525@aol.com cc: johnsobs@vicksburg.navy.mil cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Compatible NIC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Subhro List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 21:20:45 -0000 On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:28:22 -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 02:51:35PM -0400, TM4525@aol.com wrote: > > > I just voiced my opinion. If you want to use them, feel free. Use 5.2.1. > > with the rl driver. Have the slowest server on the block. What do > > I care? > > A lot, apparently; if you didn't care you wouldn't say anything. How > much do you say your time is worth, again? You must have "donated" > hundreds of dollars worth of your "caring" to the mailing list over > the past few weeks. Unfortunately, valuing the time of others in the > same way, you've also cost the user community many thousands of > dollars reading your strangely-embittered commentary. > > Kris This is an earnest request to everyone. Could we please ignore someone who does not have the descency to speak. One can simply go on adding to the troll but does it mean that we the comparatively "sane" people also go on answering that? Regards S. -- Subhro Sankha Kar School of Information Technology Block AQ-13/1 Sector V ZIP 700091 India From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 21:35:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82D4316A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 21:35:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp108.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp108.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5D73943D1D for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 21:35:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lloyd545220-trucker@yahoo.com) Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.59.4.144?) (wyoming?antelope@205.240.194.166 with plain) by smtp108.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Oct 2004 21:35:57 -0000 Message-ID: <4182B7B7.2080307@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:35:51 -0600 From: Lloyd Hayes User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040803 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Xorg86 -config error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 21:35:57 -0000 With 5.3, I was typed: Xorg -configure I got: Fatal server error: xfEnableIO: Failed to open /dev/io for extended I/O This is on an older laptop with an external CD-ROM/Burner/DVD Player connected by USB port. FreeBSD was installed using the external CD drive. (It also has an internal CD drive, but this drive produces scratches and errors on some CDs. I prefer not to use it, except with older CDs.) FreeBSD seems to support my hardware better then any of the Linux distros, but it far harder to understand. -- Lloyd Hayes Email: lloyd545220-trucker@yahoo.com URL: http://TalkingStaff.bravehost.com E-FAX Number: (208) 248-6590 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 21:37:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35E1816A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 21:37:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pernis.its.uu.se (pernis.its.UU.SE [130.238.4.153]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6F2B43D48 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 21:37:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ante@Update.UU.SE) Received: by pernis.its.uu.se (Postfix, from userid 205) id 7BE80441; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:37:19 +0200 (MSZ) Received: from pernis.its.uu.se(127.0.0.1) by pernis.its.uu.se via virus-scan id s332; Fri, 29 Oct 04 23:37:18 +0200 Received: from Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE [130.238.19.25]) by pernis.its.uu.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13FE643F; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:37:18 +0200 (MSZ) Received: by Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Postfix, from userid 30086) id EC7F938013; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:37:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB5085C002; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:37:17 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:37:17 +0200 (CEST) From: Andreas Davour To: Kent Stewart In-Reply-To: <200410291416.20734.kstewart@owt.com> Message-ID: References: <200410291416.20734.kstewart@owt.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sound volume in KDE3.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 21:37:22 -0000 On Fri, 29 Oct 2004, Kent Stewart wrote: > On Friday 29 October 2004 02:06 pm, Andreas Davour wrote: >> Since I did my last cvsup I have had many annoying problems, many >> related to firefox. This about KDE is even more annoying. >> >> So, is there any permanent solution to the KDE setting my volume to 0? >> I saw some reply to the problem about removing a file somewhere, which >> didn't stop the volume from reset to zero after a reboot. >> >> Can I make kmix remember my settings somehow? I'm beginning to tired of >> running kmix every time I start up just to raise the volume. > > That is one of the configuration options. You're refering to the "Restore volumes on login" clickbox? I tried that, and it didn't work. That's why I'm getting annoyed. Maybe I should just pkg_delete both firefox and KDE and start over then. /andreas -- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 21:55:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85F0116A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 21:55:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from allrounder.lame.at (mail.softlink.at [195.58.166.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47C0D43D46 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 21:55:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from haimat@lame.at) Received: from itchy (home.lame.at [80.78.254.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by allrounder.lame.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id 161782FE87 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:55:11 +0200 (CEST) From: "Matthias F. Brandstetter" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:55:43 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410292355.43148.haimat@lame.at> Subject: howto software raid under FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 21:55:50 -0000 Hi all, I want to create a software RAID 1 of two same disks. Coming from Linux I am used to the very simple /etc/raidtab files. Now I looked into vinum docs in FreeBSD handbook, and it seems somewhat difficult to me. So my question is: Is vinum the only way to create a software RAID 1 from two ATA disks? I've read about ccd, but after reading its man page I do not tend to it. Hope you guys can help me! Greetings, Matthias -- Hey, if you want wild bears eatin' your children and scarin' your salmon, that's your business. But I'm not gonna take it! Who's with me? -- Homer Simpson Much Apu About Nothing From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 22:00:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E23016A4DF for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:00:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-m19.mx.aol.com (imo-m19.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC07443D41 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:00:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from TM4525@aol.com) Received: from TM4525@aol.com by imo-m19.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id 6.9.35da44ba (4418); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:00:32 -0400 (EDT) From: TM4525@aol.com Message-ID: <9.35da44ba.2eb41780@aol.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:00:32 EDT To: chad@shire.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5114 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GPL vs BSD Licence X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:00:42 -0000 In a message dated 10/29/04 3:54:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, chad@shire.net writes: > Its equally "preposterous" for the GPLers to claim that anything that > works > with any O/S is owned by the owner of the OS as a "derivative work". > But > they do, and they will, because it suits them. >It is not just the GPL folks. SCO is doing the same thing to IBMs >code. Code totally removed from SCOs SysVR4 code is being claimed by >SCO as a derivative work. >I am not trying to open up a discussion on SCO. Just to point out that >this phenomenon is not restricted to the GPL fanatics. The whole SCO vs IBM mess is an illustration of just how goofy the entire GPL is. IBM claims that they have standing to sue over LINUX because they've made contributions. But since contributions are derivative works, then they shouldn't have any copyright. So does everyone who has contributed to linux have standing to sue then? Of course, I think device drivers and modules are different. The entire purpose of the device driver/module interface is to make add-ons possible without having to modify the kernel. The concept that they are also "derivative works" is nonsense. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 22:01:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9162616A4D0 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:01:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.owt.com (smtp.owt.com [204.118.6.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1544143D48 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:01:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from [207.41.94.233] (owt-207-41-94-233.owt.com [207.41.94.233]) by smtp.owt.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i9TM0wLc011205; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:00:58 -0700 From: Kent Stewart To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:01:17 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <200410291416.20734.kstewart@owt.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410291501.17212.kstewart@owt.com> cc: Andreas Davour Subject: Re: Sound volume in KDE3.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:01:19 -0000 On Friday 29 October 2004 02:37 pm, Andreas Davour wrote: > On Fri, 29 Oct 2004, Kent Stewart wrote: > > On Friday 29 October 2004 02:06 pm, Andreas Davour wrote: > >> Since I did my last cvsup I have had many annoying problems, many > >> related to firefox. This about KDE is even more annoying. > >> > >> So, is there any permanent solution to the KDE setting my volume to 0? > >> I saw some reply to the problem about removing a file somewhere, which > >> didn't stop the volume from reset to zero after a reboot. > >> > >> Can I make kmix remember my settings somehow? I'm beginning to tired of > >> running kmix every time I start up just to raise the volume. > > > > That is one of the configuration options. > > You're refering to the "Restore volumes on login" clickbox? I tried > that, and it didn't work. That's why I'm getting annoyed. Maybe I should > just pkg_delete both firefox and KDE and start over then. > Yes, that is the option. I have had irritating things happen and finally deleted the .kde directory in my home spot. You have to prepare because you lose all of your bookmarks and etc. and you want to back them up. It usually turned out to be something else such as power options but you never know. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 22:03:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D7E216A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:03:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-03.rdc-nyc.rr.com (ms-smtp-03-smtplb.rdc-nyc.rr.com [24.29.109.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 549AD43D1F for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:03:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from asolomon15@nyc.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (24-193-65-238.nyc.rr.com [24.193.65.238]) i9TM3Q20001874 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:03:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4182BE2E.3020601@nyc.rr.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:03:26 -0400 From: asolomon15 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (X11/20041003) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: entertainment side of fbsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:03:32 -0000 I was woundering if anyone ever got a game called Unreal Tournament 2004 running on freebsd? I did google search but didn't find anything. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 22:08:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5203B16A4CE; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:08:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sage.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6A5343D2D; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:08:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao [10.0.0.247]) by sage.thought.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9TM8th0027626; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:08:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thought.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i9TM8sD3076055; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:08:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i9TM8sJJ076054; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:08:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:08:53 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List , FreeBSD Mobile Mailing List Message-ID: <20041029220853.GA76015@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 18 years of service to the Unix community User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: missing kernel and kernel.old X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:08:58 -0000 Gents, Yesterday/last night I fumbled trying to install the 5.3-RELEASE kernel. This morning, my ThinkPad couldn't boot. The only floppy *flp set I find out there is 5.3-BETA7 and the fixit.flp disc has read errors. (I tried twice, new floppies.) I think what would would would be to get in there with a good fixit, mount /usr, and cp /usr/src/sys/i386/compile/ZEN/kernel /kernel; I'm assuming the buildkkernel did work. SO: nutshell: where are the 5.3-RELEASE floppies? I don't have a burner so can burn a "Live" CDROM. google finds nothing besides the BETA7 flp's. thanks for some clues, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 22:09:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6C4416A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:09:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F09E43D49 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:09:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from TM4525@aol.com) Received: from TM4525@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id n.1f3.1ccba4a (4418) for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:09:25 -0400 (EDT) From: TM4525@aol.com Message-ID: <1f3.1ccba4a.2eb41995@aol.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:09:25 EDT To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5114 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Re: Compatible NIC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:09:33 -0000 In a message dated 10/29/04 3:27:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kris@obsecurity.org writes: >> I just voiced my opinion. If you want to use them, feel free. Use 5.2.1. >>with the rl driver. Have the slowest server on the block. What do >> I care? >A lot, apparently; if you didn't care you wouldn't say anything. How >much do you say your time is worth, again? You must have "donated" >hundreds of dollars worth of your "caring" to the mailing list over >the past few weeks. Unfortunately, valuing the time of others in the >same way, you've also cost the user community many thousands of >dollars reading your strangely-embittered commentary. No one is forcing you to read anything. I never copy you on anythere, but here you are again.... Aside from the few weenies like yourself who think you know everything and would rather not hear the truth, I'm sure that there are many who are a bit more objective and value hearing another point of view. People want to know whats good and bad about using FreeBSD. Your Klan just paints a rosey picture about everything, so nothing you say can have any credibility. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 22:11:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 917A316A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:11:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2792443D48 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:11:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xuchen66@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 65so738326wri for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:10:23 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=p8vnA3XIjtZ9JscWWPwtOwjNbnWLwKXjjpD/GxvD3HWD15z2ThlUUuJiL8Y0dGQXExyK9vdT9iQVNtj0NMKUTon8saj4a0KKsog0XcZ37BTaQwFEQ46lpU8T0++ekg3MYhUDxrHBJaDVjNbLJerR6MU9L2HTVHmgo18Oc8JHyHw= Received: by 10.38.13.79 with SMTP id 79mr1992794rnm; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:10:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.125.77 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:10:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <184b087c04102915102f55e759@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:10:21 -0400 From: Chen Xu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: 5.3-stable -- all CPU usage show 0% X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Chen Xu List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:11:55 -0000 I am running 5.3-stable. since 5.3RC1, my CPU status from `top` show all zeros, like this. Can anyone tell me what is wrong? -- from top -- last pid: 1358; load averages: 0.82, 0.56, 0.34 up 0+00:14:57 18:02:53 46 processes: 2 running, 44 sleeping CPU states: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 0.0% idle Mem: 66M Active, 57M Inact, 55M Wired, 1284K Cache, 48M Buf, 193M Free Swap: 743M Total, 743M Free PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 1335 xuchen 20 0 46112K 39056K kserel 0:42 0.00% 0.00% firefox-bin 1233 xuchen 96 0 22396K 21396K select 0:12 0.00% 0.00% Xorg 1279 xuchen 20 -76 12300K 9364K kserel 0:04 0.00% 0.00% artsd 1270 xuchen 96 0 26068K 21656K RUN 0:02 0.00% 0.00% kdeinit 1301 xuchen 96 0 27784K 23052K select 0:02 0.00% 0.00% kdeinit 1292 xuchen 96 0 27472K 23492K select 0:02 0.00% 0.00% kdeinit 1281 xuchen 96 0 32008K 25084K select 0:02 0.00% 0.00% kdeinit 1290 xuchen 96 0 26060K 21500K select 0:02 0.00% 0.00% kdeinit 1309 xuchen 96 0 27908K 23600K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% korgac 1179 root 96 0 1232K 752K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% moused 1303 xuchen 96 0 25604K 21056K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% kdeinit 1308 xuchen 96 0 27976K 23000K select 0:01 0.00% 0.00% kdeinit 1306 xuchen 96 0 25160K 20216K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% kdeinit 1289 xuchen 96 0 24832K 19892K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% kdeinit 1261 xuchen 96 0 24004K 18300K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% kdeinit 1267 xuchen 96 0 24788K 18784K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% kdeinit 1264 xuchen 96 0 23404K 17556K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% kdeinit 945 root 96 0 1780K 1340K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% dhclient 1337 xuchen 96 0 3916K 2716K select 0:00 0.00% 0.00% gconfd-2 -- from `dmesg` -- > dmesg Copyright (c) 1992-2004 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE #1: Fri Oct 29 17:00:15 EDT 2004 root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/DELL Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel Pentium III (498.47-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x681 Stepping = 1 Features=0x383f9ff real memory = 402587648 (383 MB) avail memory = 388452352 (370 MB) npx0: [FAST] npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface acpi0: on motherboard Timecounter "ACPI-safe" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 acpi_tz0: on acpi0 acpi_acad0: on acpi0 acpi_cmbat0: on acpi0 acpi_cmbat1: on acpi0 acpi_lid0: on acpi0 acpi_button0: on acpi0 acpi_button1: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 agp0: mem 0xf4000000-0xf7ffffff at device 0.0 on pci0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) cbb0: at device 3.0 on pci0 cardbus0: on cbb0 pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0 cbb1: at device 3.1 on pci0 cardbus1: on cbb1 pccard1: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb1 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x860-0x86f,0x376,0x170-0x177,0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 7.1 on pci0 ata0: channel #0 on atapci0 ata1: channel #1 on atapci0 uhci0: port 0xdce0-0xdcff irq 11 at device 7.2 on pci0 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered pci0: at device 7.3 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 8.0 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 8.1 (no driver attached) atkbdc0: port 0x64,0x60 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A ppc0: port 0x778-0x77b,0x378-0x37f irq 7 on acpi0 ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold ppbus0: on ppc0 plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xcffff on isa0 pmtimer0 on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounter "TSC" frequency 498469880 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec dc0: port 0x1000-0x10ff mem 0x88000000-0x880003ff irq 11 at device 0.0 on cardbus0 miibus0: on dc0 ukphy0: on miibus0 ukphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto dc0: Ethernet address: 00:04:5a:a3:c5:fe dc0: if_start running deferred for Giant dc0: [GIANT-LOCKED] ad0: 5729MB [12416/15/63] at ata0-master UDMA33 acd0: CDROM at ata1-master UDMA33 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a -- Chen Xu xuchen66@gmail.com xuchen@bsdmail.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 22:14:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77E2816A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:14:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp103.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp103.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.169.222]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 521B143D5F for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:14:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lloyd545220-trucker@yahoo.com) Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.59.4.144?) (wyoming?antelope@205.240.194.166 with plain) by smtp103.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Oct 2004 22:14:06 -0000 Message-ID: <4182C0A9.8040701@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:14:01 -0600 From: Lloyd Hayes User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040803 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE:Xorg86 -config error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:14:06 -0000 I think that I have this figured out. On the X.Org website under New Port Users, it says that it only supports 1280x1024 mode and color depths of only 8 and 24 bit. My old laptop has a 800x600 screen and 16 bit color depth. (For that matter, my newest laptop only has a 1024x768 pixel screen!) -- Lloyd Hayes Email: lloyd545220-trucker@yahoo.com URL: http://TalkingStaff.bravehost.com E-FAX Number: (208) 248-6590 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 22:20:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1962B16A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:20:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from outbox.allstream.net (outbox.allstream.net [207.245.244.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA78743D31 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:20:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from epilogue@allstream.net) Received: from localhost (mon-pq62-007.dial.allstream.net [216.123.137.7]) by outbox.allstream.net (Allstream MTA) with SMTP id 3AFFE5DB8; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:20:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:20:23 -0400 From: epilogue To: Bill Schoolcraft Message-ID: <20041029182023.4cf553a6@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20041029125553.B37394@bsd.billschoolcraft.com> References: <20041029125759.26932.qmail@web52501.mail.yahoo.com> <20041029191818.GA1199@conde.cs.tu-berlin.de> <20041029125553.B37394@bsd.billschoolcraft.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12b (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.10) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.2.1, installed Mozilla -- X reverses background colors when used!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:20:37 -0000 On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:59:52 -0700 (PDT) Bill Schoolcraft wrote: > At Fri, 29 Oct 2004 it looks like Volker Eckert composed: > > > On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 05:57:59AM -0700, Bill Schoolcraft wrote: > > > ... > > > I have run 5.2.1 successfully on many machines and X is actually > > > working fine except when I use Mozilla as installed from ports. > > > > > > The whole background turns into a "negative" and so does the > > > Mozilla browser. All returns to normal once I exit Mozilla. > > I may go and install 4.10 and see what happens. 4.10 failed to > install when the installation kernel hit the parallel port... > Install/Kernel just wedged shut. have you considered installing moz via packages? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 22:30:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96E4116A4E9 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:30:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wiliweld.com (adsl-63-204-157-14.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.204.157.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1541D43D1D for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:30:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bill@wiliweld.com) Received: from bsd.billschoolcraft.com (unknown [192.168.1.11]) by wiliweld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0C6C438C0; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:30:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:30:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Schoolcraft X-X-Sender: bill@bsd.billschoolcraft.com To: epilogue In-Reply-To: <20041029182023.4cf553a6@localhost> Message-ID: <20041029152928.K38850@bsd.billschoolcraft.com> References: <20041029125759.26932.qmail@web52501.mail.yahoo.com> <20041029125553.B37394@bsd.billschoolcraft.com> <20041029182023.4cf553a6@localhost> System-ID: [en] (I; FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE #0 x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.2.1, installed Mozilla -- X reverses background colors when used!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:30:44 -0000 At Fri, 29 Oct 2004 it looks like epilogue composed: > On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:59:52 -0700 (PDT) > Bill Schoolcraft wrote: > > > At Fri, 29 Oct 2004 it looks like Volker Eckert composed: > > > > > On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 05:57:59AM -0700, Bill Schoolcraft wrote: > > > > ... > > > > I have run 5.2.1 successfully on many machines and X is actually > > > > working fine except when I use Mozilla as installed from ports. > > > > > > > > The whole background turns into a "negative" and so does the > > > > Mozilla browser. All returns to normal once I exit Mozilla. > > > > I may go and install 4.10 and see what happens. 4.10 failed to > > install when the installation kernel hit the parallel port... > > Install/Kernel just wedged shut. > > have you considered installing moz via packages? Hmm, actually no. I was always feeling pretty safe using the "ports" system. Aren't they the same packages? -- Bill Schoolcraft | Life's journey is not to arrive at the PO Box 210076 | grave safely in a well preserved body, San Francisco,CA 94121 | but rather to skid in sideways, totally http://billschoolcraft.com | spent, yelling "holy shit, what a ride!" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 22:34:17 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 146A116A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:34:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out002.verizon.net (out002pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E2E643D3F for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:34:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.org) Received: from keyslapper.org ([68.163.166.57]) by out002.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20041029223415.MZZQ22336.out002.verizon.net@keyslapper.org> for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 17:34:15 -0500 Received: from keyslapper.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keyslapper.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i9TMYDrB008584 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:34:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.org) Received: (from leblanc@localhost) by keyslapper.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i9TMYDZm008583 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:34:13 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from leblanc) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:34:12 -0400 From: Louis LeBlanc To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20041029223412.GD4114@keyslapper.org> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out002.verizon.net from [68.163.166.57] at Fri, 29 Oct 2004 17:34:15 -0500 Subject: More Intel ICH5 SATA150 hangs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:34:17 -0000 I know I've asked this question before, and I sure hate to start sounding like a broken record, but I wasn't able to get a solution last time around. The problem is with an Intel ICH5 SATA150 Disk Controller. I'm still getting errors when the disk is placed under load: Oct 29 15:02:24 key2 kernel: ad4: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (2 retries left) LBA=62023103 Oct 29 15:02:29 key2 kernel: ad4: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (2 retries left) LBA=61992511 I'll get a couple of these and then the whole system freezes, requiring a hard boot. Recovery always involves manually running fsck on one or more partitions, and sometimes lost data. I've included various bits of info in past postings. I'll re-collect whatever info might be helpful if anyone wants, but the scanpci output describing the controller is here: pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x1f function 0x00: vendor 0x8086 device 0x24d0 Intel Corp. 82801EB LPC Interface Controller The system is a fairly new (3 months old) Dell 8300; 3Ghz Pentium with HT enabled. The disk controller is an Intel ICH5 SATA controller, as mentioned above. The disk is a WDC WD1600JD-75HBB0 (Western Digital). Last time I asked about this, it was suggested that the drive might be bad. The bios had a test that passed the drive. It was then suggested that I use the WD test utility. I wasn't able to do this at the time because I don't have a floppy on this system, and creating a bootable CD from the image didn't work (I think it had a: hardcoded in). Well, I finally broke down and hijacked the floppy from another machine and ran the WD diags. Passed with flying colors, both the quick test and the extended test. The drive is fine. So today I was building OpenOffice and everything came to a screeching halt again. See the log entries above. I did a lot of googling to see if there was anything about the controller and the WRITE_DMA message out there - even associated with Linux or any other *nix. Very little, but there were suggestions to change the CPU to compatible mode. I tried this and it wouldn't boot. Same result the other poor schmuck got when he tried it. There was also a suggestion that HT be turned off. Kinda defeats the whole purpose of spending the extra $100 when I bought this system, so I didn't bother trying it - especially since there were folks out there that said it wasn't related - they had no problems with the Disk controller and HT. So, I'm back to the 5.2.1 kernel and/or driver. There's also the fact that this particular controller isn't mentioned in the 5.2.1 hardware support list on the FreeBSD site, but it is mentioned in the 4.10 hardware support list. I'd rather stick with 5.x, of course, but I don't know if my hardware is dropping off the support list. If I were to put the system in place as my server, and it locked up, it would be a real pain in the ass, with me getting all grumpy over it. On the other hand, I really want to get the venerable old 400Mhz system out of here. Anyone have any other suggestions, info, whatever? I'll try turning off HT if that's the only way to go for now, but I don't see how that could be the problem - unless there's a locking problem in the kernel - which I'd hope gets fixed in 5.3. Thanks in advance for all feedback. Lou -- Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org ÔżÔ¬ Dammit Jim, I'm an actor, not a doctor. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 22:34:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7241F16A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:34:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-04-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D047A43D39 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:34:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jason@ec.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.1.103] (cpe-065-184-172-100.ec.rr.com [65.184.172.100])i9TMYNCh018898; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:34:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4182C593.9090808@ec.rr.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:34:59 -0400 From: jason User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (X11/20041025) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ewald Jenisch References: <20041029140840.GA5085@athena.oekb.co.at> In-Reply-To: <20041029140840.GA5085@athena.oekb.co.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Accessing partitions using FIXIT/Live-System-CDROM? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:34:31 -0000 Ewald Jenisch wrote: >Hi, > >After wiping out my system :-(, i.e. the root-partition and parts of >/usr I'd like to rescue any data that might be left on the machine, >like /home, /var etc. > >So I booted with the "Live-CDROM" (#2) and went to the Fixit Menu >item. > >However I can't mount any paritions beside the original root-partition. > >To be specifc: > >My harddisk basically is one FreeBSD-slice, da0. da0 is divided into >several partitions like da0s1a (root), da0s1h (home) etc. > >Using the live-system CD (fixit) I can do > >mount /dev/da0s1 /mnt (note it's da0s1, not da0s1a as I'd expected) > >However when trying to mount another partition (like "h") I get the >following error: > >mount /dev/da0s1h /mnt3 >mount: /dev/da0s1h: Operation not permitted > >Since there was no entry in /dev for da0s1h (only for da0s1, the >complete slice), I set one up with mknod. This entry is exactly the >same (major/minor) as the corresponding entry in my original >/dev/da0s1h had which at that time is mounted as /mnt/dev. > >Even when having an entry for the partition in question (da0s1h in the >example) I cant' mount that partition. > >Sure enough the data still seems to be there - the question for me is >how do I mount these partitions so I can get the data off the machine >before installing it from scratch? > >Thanks much in advance for any clue, >-ewald > > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > Search the current archives for a new feature with atacontrol, I think its in this program. It will scan a disk and recover any data it can. Sounds like what you need. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 23:09:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12E1316A4CF for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:09:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from outbox.allstream.net (outbox.allstream.net [207.245.244.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4FF443D4C for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:09:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from epilogue@allstream.net) Received: from localhost (mon-pq62-007.dial.allstream.net [216.123.137.7]) by outbox.allstream.net (Allstream MTA) with SMTP id E21571BAFB7; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 19:09:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 19:09:24 -0400 From: epilogue To: Bill Schoolcraft Message-ID: <20041029190924.720a60dc@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20041029152928.K38850@bsd.billschoolcraft.com> References: <20041029125759.26932.qmail@web52501.mail.yahoo.com> <20041029191818.GA1199@conde.cs.tu-berlin.de> <20041029125553.B37394@bsd.billschoolcraft.com> <20041029182023.4cf553a6@localhost> <20041029152928.K38850@bsd.billschoolcraft.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12b (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.10) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.2.1, installed Mozilla -- X reverses background colors when used!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:09:38 -0000 On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:30:43 -0700 (PDT) Bill Schoolcraft wrote: > At Fri, 29 Oct 2004 it looks like epilogue composed: > > > On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:59:52 -0700 (PDT) > > Bill Schoolcraft wrote: > > > > > At Fri, 29 Oct 2004 it looks like Volker Eckert composed: > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 05:57:59AM -0700, Bill Schoolcraft > > > > wrote: > > > > > ... > > > > > I have run 5.2.1 successfully on many machines and X is > > > > > actually working fine except when I use Mozilla as installed > > > > > from ports. > > > > > > > > > > The whole background turns into a "negative" and so does the > > > > > Mozilla browser. All returns to normal once I exit Mozilla. > > > > > > I may go and install 4.10 and see what happens. 4.10 failed to > > > install when the installation kernel hit the parallel port... > > > Install/Kernel just wedged shut. > > > > have you considered installing moz via packages? > > Hmm, actually no. I was always feeling pretty safe using the > "ports" system. Aren't they the same packages? it would be a quick way to test a binary that is 'supposed' to work. pehaps, you compiled your port with strange options (on the CLI or via make.conf or even pkgtools.conf) fwiw, trying a pkg is probably easier than reinstalling your system. also, you might want cause the problem again, then check your /var/logs to see if anything interesting shows up in either Xorg.0.log, console.log, messages.log... > > -- > Bill Schoolcraft | Life's journey is not to arrive at the > PO Box 210076 | grave safely in a well preserved body, > San Francisco,CA 94121 | but rather to skid in sideways, totally > http://billschoolcraft.com | spent, yelling "holy shit, what a ride!" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 23:12:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7FA816A4CF for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:12:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CB1443D39 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:12:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:09:06 -0500 Message-ID: <4182CE6A.60708@daleco.biz> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:12:42 -0500 From: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041023 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lloyd Hayes References: <4182C0A9.8040701@yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <4182C0A9.8040701@yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Oct 2004 23:09:07.0279 (UTC) FILETIME=[4A8BFDF0:01C4BE0C] cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg86 -config error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:12:42 -0000 Lloyd Hayes wrote: > I think that I have this figured out. > > On the X.Org website under New Port Users, it says that it only > supports 1280x1024 mode and color depths of only 8 and 24 bit. > > My old laptop has a 800x600 screen and 16 bit color depth. > (For that matter, my newest laptop only has a 1024x768 pixel screen!) > > That doesn't seem quite reasonable --- XFree86 doesn't have any such constraints, why should its successor? I just don't think that the Project would have switched to X.Org if it wasn't up to snuff. What is the URI of the page to which you refer? The first thought that popped into my head upon reading your first post is that you weren't "root" at the time you tried the command .... Kevin Kinsey DaleCo, S.P. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 23:19:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4407F16A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:19:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from muse.calarts.edu (muse.calarts.edu [198.182.157.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC8B443D58 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:19:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from smurphy@calarts.edu) Received: from [172.24.24.63] (rfc1918-address.calarts.edu [172.24.24.63] (may be forged)) by muse.calarts.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) with ESMTP id i9TNJ2w14488 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:19:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4182CFCD.3050402@calarts.edu> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:18:37 -0700 From: Sean Murphy User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Sendmail Anti-Spam X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:19:03 -0000 I want to add an anti-spam solution to sendmail. I was wondering what solution you chose for server side anti-spam and how well it works for you. -- Sean Murphy Network Technician California Institute of the Arts smurphy@calarts.edu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 23:23:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA84216A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:23:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from p15140542.pureserver.info (papendorf-se.de [217.160.222.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D05C43D2D for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:23:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nagilum.org) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by p15140542.pureserver.info (Postfix) with ESMTP id B17242F4117; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 01:23:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from p15140542.pureserver.info ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (p15140542 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17710-09; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 01:23:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from cakebox.homeunix.net (unknown [217.188.235.21]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by p15140542.pureserver.info (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D0F12F405B; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 01:23:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cakebox.homeunix.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 383B43029C5; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 01:23:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from cakebox.homeunix.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (cakebox.tis [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 63579-05; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 01:23:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.1.1.4] (scorpio.tis [10.1.1.4]) by cakebox.homeunix.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECE753029B0; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 01:23:00 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4182D0D1.9010404@nagilum.org> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 01:22:57 +0200 From: Nagilum User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rogeriocordeiro References: <000701c4b6f3$b1521030$6700a8c0@w2kprows1> In-Reply-To: <000701c4b6f3$b1521030$6700a8c0@w2kprows1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cakebox.homeunix.net X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at papendorf-se.de cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: mac os X X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:23:21 -0000 Hi, In short the BSD licence grants everyone to do whatever he or she pleases to do with it under two conditions (IAMNAL!): 1. Keep the Author(s) name(s) in the file 2. Don't hold the Author(s) liable for the code So it's perfectly ok for Apple to use FreeBSD code in MacOS-X or Microsoft to use OpenBSD code in their SFU. Kind regards, Alex. rogeriocordeiro wrote: >Hello! > > > >I am new to FreeBSD and I have some questions regard the licensing. > >My question is regarding using FreeBSD for profit? > > > >Ex. Mac OS X is based on FreeBSD 5.X. > > > >Is this allowed or not and if so what are the requirements. > >I have read the public license and I would have to say with all the legal >running around, portions of its intent can seem a bit lost to me. I would >need to wait for my head to stop spinning. > > > >Instead of me explaining my interpretation could I get two or three examples >of what is and is not allowed under the license? > > > >Party A downloads FreeBSD for commercial purposes and for profit no code >modification. > > > >Party A downloads FreeBSD for profit to make own platform like Mac os X. > >(I am not picking on Mac, I am glad they are aboard. Just not sure how all >that works. I would also like to include how this applies to embedded >systems such as network appliances.) > > > >Party B uses code from FreeBSD written by Party A for profit and non-profit. > > > >Forgive me if my questions seem non-sequitur like I said I am new to all >this and may not have the correct questions. > > > >As I am new to the industry I have a great deal of questions and not sure >where to start. > >I would eventually like to sell my services and solutions to potential >customers using FreeBSD. > >I figure if it is okay for Linux, we should be able to do the same for >FreeBSD? > > > >If I am wrong, please explain if possible. > > > >If possible it would be great if the answers could be expanded to the code >not just the compiled binaries. > >It may help the rest of us new to FreeBSD if these examples were on your >site. > >Just a suggestion > > > >P.S. > > > >Once I am up to speed I would like to become a contributor at some level. > >Are there any guide lines to follow, and are they covered in the developer's >handbook I downloaded? > > > >Is the Darwin project part of the FreeBSD group such as FreeBSD for PPC or >is now a separate entity? > >Can the code from Darwin be used back in FreeBSD? > > > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 23:28:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0407716A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:28:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from p15140542.pureserver.info (papendorf-se.de [217.160.222.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E77143D2D for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:28:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nagilum.org) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by p15140542.pureserver.info (Postfix) with ESMTP id B63EB2F4117; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 01:28:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from p15140542.pureserver.info ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (p15140542 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18895-04; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 01:28:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from cakebox.homeunix.net (unknown [217.188.235.21]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by p15140542.pureserver.info (Postfix) with ESMTP id A672F2F405B; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 01:28:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cakebox.homeunix.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A3EA3029CC; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 01:28:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from cakebox.homeunix.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (cakebox.tis [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 63579-07; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 01:28:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.1.1.4] (scorpio.tis [10.1.1.4]) by cakebox.homeunix.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FAE03029B0; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 01:28:41 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4182D229.8090003@nagilum.org> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 01:28:41 +0200 From: Nagilum User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Oles Hnatkevych References: <6588568364.20041022094150@able.com.ua> In-Reply-To: <6588568364.20041022094150@able.com.ua> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cakebox.homeunix.net X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at papendorf-se.de Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: postfix + cron problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:28:54 -0000 Oles Hnatkevych wrote: >Hello all! > >There's a FreeBSD box with manually installed postfix-2.1.0. >It works, except that cron can not send execution logs by email. > >The "running" user receives a message > > > >>This is the Postfix program at host xxxx.xxxx.xxxx. >> >>I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not be >>be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below. >> >>For further assistance, please send mail to >> >>If you do so, please include this problem report. You can >>delete your own text from the attached returned message. >> >> The Postfix program >> >>: No recipients specified >> >> > >with the original message in attachment. > >Something is wrong here. What can be done? > > > Have you created an alias for root? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 29 23:53:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BB8616A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:53:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C058F43D1F for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:53:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:49:42 -0500 Message-ID: <4182D7EF.9080100@daleco.biz> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:53:19 -0500 From: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041023 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sean Murphy References: <4182CFCD.3050402@calarts.edu> In-Reply-To: <4182CFCD.3050402@calarts.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Oct 2004 23:49:43.0638 (UTC) FILETIME=[F6BADF60:01C4BE11] cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sendmail Anti-Spam X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:53:19 -0000 Sean Murphy wrote: > I want to add an anti-spam solution to sendmail. I was wondering what > solution you chose for server side anti-spam and how well it works for > you. A few months ago I tried amavisd-new in the "Sendmail Dual" configuration with clamav for antivirus and SpamAssassin for spam. I tried and tried and fed it lots of test spam ('cause quite a bit of it was passing.) My next attempt will be "relaydelay" --- http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/relaydelay/ --- can't say as I've figured it out yet. If you're a Sendmail Guru, there's quite a bit of stuff to help within Sendmail itself, from what I can tell --- but I'm not. FBSD has switched to Postfix for their server(s). Bill Moran recently gave a talk to a UG in Ohio on the subject, using Postfix ... he has slides up somewhere on potentialtech.com .... HTH, Kevin Kinsey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 00:20:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F51016A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 00:20:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.datausa.com (ns1.datausa.com [216.150.220.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 298A243D1D for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 00:20:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@wcubed.net) Received: (qmail 88148 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2004 00:19:03 -0000 Received: from web.datausa.com (HELO webmail.wcubed.net) (216.150.220.132) by mail.datausa.com with SMTP; 30 Oct 2004 00:19:03 -0000 Received: from 67.165.234.240 (SquirrelMail authenticated user freebsd@wcubed.net) by webmail.wcubed.net with HTTP; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:14:13 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <2629.67.165.234.240.1099095253.squirrel@webmail.wcubed.net> In-Reply-To: <20041029183742.GB76157@dan.emsphone.com> References: <2614.67.165.234.240.1099073745.squirrel@webmail.wcubed.net> <20041029183742.GB76157@dan.emsphone.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:14:13 -0600 (MDT) From: "Brad Waite" To: "Dan Nelson" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal cc: Brad Waite cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Building part of world X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 00:20:01 -0000 > In the last episode (Oct 29), Brad Waite said: >> I'm trying to update my sys/pci/if_sk.c and would like to be able to >> build several versions without having to build the entire world. > > Since that's a kernel driver, you only have to build a new kernel. Heh. I realized that about 10 minutes after I posted the question. If I wasn't able to laugh at myself sometimes, I'd be in a heap of trouble. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 00:28:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 084F116A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 00:28:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (imap.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ED29943D2F for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 00:28:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Emanuel.Strobl@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 31072 invoked by uid 65534); 30 Oct 2004 00:28:18 -0000 Received: from flb.schmalzbauer.de (EHLO cale.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de) (62.245.232.135) by mail.gmx.net (mp021) with SMTP; 30 Oct 2004 02:28:18 +0200 X-Authenticated: #301138 From: Emanuel Strobl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 02:28:15 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <200410292355.43148.haimat@lame.at> In-Reply-To: <200410292355.43148.haimat@lame.at> X-OS: FreeBSD X-Birthday: 10/06/72 X-Address: Munich, 80686 X-Tel: +49 89 18947781 X-CelPhone: +49 173 9967781 X-Country: Germany MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1397240.QKN77riooP"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200410300228.17211.Emanuel.Strobl@gmx.net> cc: "Matthias F. Brandstetter" Subject: Re: howto software raid under FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 00:28:20 -0000 --nextPart1397240.QKN77riooP Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Am Freitag, 29. Oktober 2004 23:55 schrieb Matthias F. Brandstetter: > Hi all, > > I want to create a software RAID 1 of two same disks. Coming from Linux I > am used to the very simple /etc/raidtab files. Now I looked into vinum > docs in FreeBSD handbook, and it seems somewhat difficult to me. > > So my question is: Is vinum the only way to create a software RAID 1 from > two ATA disks? I've read about ccd, but after reading its man page I do > not tend to it. Why not, but you also have gmirror and ataraid, the former only on 5.3. For ataraid you can use 'atacontrol create RAID1 ad4 ad6' for example For gmirror you can use 'gmirror label -v -b split -s 2048 mrr ad4 ad6' And you mentioned vinum and ccd already. -Harry > > Hope you guys can help me! > Greetings, Matthias --nextPart1397240.QKN77riooP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBguAhBylq0S4AzzwRAskTAJwLrX3PnML2kDgyGiHME9bvFPMFTQCgjyM5 HczC1Ya+6T0xuB6yBiETXh4= =cKMQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1397240.QKN77riooP-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 00:29:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 571EF16A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 00:29:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.proficuous.com (www.proficuous.com [209.240.79.128]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB6F543D4C for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 00:29:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ml@proficuous.com) Received: from [192.168.3.69] (aaron-workstation.proficuous.com [192.168.3.69]) by mail.proficuous.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 675FCA894EF for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 19:29:47 -0500 (CDT) From: "Aaron P. Martinez" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1099096228.18749.149.camel@aaron.proficuous.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 (1.4.6-2) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 19:30:28 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: make buildworld.........24 hours???? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 00:29:56 -0000 I have an amd k6II 500 machine with 32 megs of ram, 20 gig 7200 rpm hard drive which i just installed fresh with FBSD 5.3RC1 on the whole disk, no boot loader. I cvsuped the sources yesterday around 5 pm CDT and then started a make buildworld. It is now 7:15 pm CDT the following day and it is still grinding away... Can it really take this long? The hard drive is grinding i can see from the hdd led but top reports that the box isn't under that heavy of a load.. I saw a thread back in January about how long this process should take (buildworld) and immediately they started talking about kernel options....i thought the kernel wouldn't matter here because that doesn't get built unless you make kernel..but i guess they meant the debugging features that are currently turned on in the kernel. Even so..this seems REALLY long as i saw some earlier posts where people were saying that on earlier versions of FBSD with lessor machines they were finishing in 3-4 hours. I'm _very_ new to this process...and wow..this is painful...i have _all_ of the default values set in the kernel completely stock machine except for the 3 packages i installed...(bash, cvsup and OpenSSH-askpass-1.2.2.2001.02.24 and of course the dependencies they installed) Is something going wrong....should i abort this and start over? something i can look at to see why it's taking so long or maybe it's just that 5.3 is made to build on exponentially faster machines...and help is greatly appreciated. Thanks for the patience. Aaron PS...i see a lot of this as it's building.... /usr/src/gnu/lib/libstdc++/../../../contrib/libstdc++/src/valarray-inst.cc:1: warning: -ffunction-sections disabled; it makes profiling impossible is this just some switch (-ffunction i presume) that is turned off in the kernel? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 00:34:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B893616A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 00:34:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89D2043D49 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 00:34:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 606CD52C13; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 17:36:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 17:36:06 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: "Aaron P. Martinez" Message-ID: <20041030003606.GA60037@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <1099096228.18749.149.camel@aaron.proficuous.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="5vNYLRcllDrimb99" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1099096228.18749.149.camel@aaron.proficuous.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make buildworld.........24 hours???? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 00:34:41 -0000 --5vNYLRcllDrimb99 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 07:30:28PM -0500, Aaron P. Martinez wrote: > I have an amd k6II 500 machine with 32 megs of ram, 20 gig 7200 rpm hard > drive which i just installed fresh with FBSD 5.3RC1 on the whole disk, > no boot loader. =20 >=20 > I cvsuped the sources yesterday around 5 pm CDT and then started a make > buildworld. It is now 7:15 pm CDT the following day and it is still > grinding away... Can it really take this long? The hard drive is > grinding i can see from the hdd led but top reports that the box isn't > under that heavy of a load..=20 That's not unreasonable - the performance killer will be your lack of memory, which means that you'll be swapping a lot while compiling. Kris --5vNYLRcllDrimb99 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBguH1Wry0BWjoQKURAt7FAKDv/gjktITsK26uByEGvKDS8NyxCwCdFXIf YHbgMhYbLIajaHaINDHwtuw= =24Q6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --5vNYLRcllDrimb99-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 00:48:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F0C216A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 00:48:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smarthost2.sentex.ca (smarthost2.sentex.ca [205.211.164.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C891C43D1D for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 00:48:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from BLUELAPIS.sentex.ca (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by smarthost2.sentex.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with SMTP id i9U0lxHH053972; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:47:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) From: Mike Tancsa To: Louis LeBlanc Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:48:07 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20041029223412.GD4114@keyslapper.org> In-Reply-To: <20041029223412.GD4114@keyslapper.org> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: More Intel ICH5 SATA150 hangs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 00:48:01 -0000 On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:34:12 -0400, in sentex.lists.freebsd.questions you wrote: > >The system is a fairly new (3 months old) Dell 8300; 3Ghz Pentium with >HT enabled. The disk controller is an Intel ICH5 SATA controller, as >mentioned above. The disk is a WDC WD1600JD-75HBB0 (Western Digital). > >Last time I asked about this, it was suggested that the drive might be >bad. The bios had a test that passed the drive. It was then >suggested that I use the WD test utility. I wasn't able to do this at >the time because I don't have a floppy on this system, and creating a >bootable CD from the image didn't work (I think it had a: hardcoded >in). Well, I finally broke down and hijacked the floppy from another >machine and ran the WD diags. Passed with flying colors, both the >quick test and the extended test. The drive is fine. > A useful program on RELENG_5 is=20 /usr/ports/sysutils/smartmontools/ have a quick look to see if there are any bad sectors on the drive. Run the daemon, and do a snapshot (smartctl -a ad0) before and after the crash and see if there is anything new recorded on the drive. >So today I was building OpenOffice and everything came to a screeching >halt again. See the log entries above. >Same result the other poor schmuck got when he tried it. There was >also a suggestion that HT be turned off. Kinda defeats the whole HT works against you unless the scheduler is specifically aware of it, and right now the ULE scheduler is broken. For sure turn HT off in your BIOS and make sure you use SCHED_4BSD and NOT ULE > >Anyone have any other suggestions, info, whatever? I'll try turning What does your kernel config look like ? =20 ---Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 01:15:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC53016A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 01:15:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web40914.mail.yahoo.com (web40914.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.78.211]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CE66843D1D for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 01:15:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from son_jaya@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20041030011527.24275.qmail@web40914.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [202.158.77.194] by web40914.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:15:27 PDT Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:15:27 -0700 (PDT) From: sonjaya To: freebsd-quest MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: ipfilter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 01:15:28 -0000 dear all i try use ipnat in my kernel i use this : options IPFILTER options IPFILTER_LOG this is correct because when i try make after make depend i get error what should i do ? thx ===== SONJAYA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 01:40:51 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 049B816A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 01:40:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8B0043D3F for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 01:40:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0B2305335E; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:42:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:42:15 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: sonjaya Message-ID: <20041030014215.GA69218@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20041030011527.24275.qmail@web40914.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="cWoXeonUoKmBZSoM" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041030011527.24275.qmail@web40914.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-quest Subject: Re: ipfilter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 01:40:51 -0000 --cWoXeonUoKmBZSoM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 06:15:27PM -0700, sonjaya wrote: > dear all=20 > i try use ipnat in my kernel i use this : > options IPFILTER > options IPFILTER_LOG >=20 > this is correct because when i try make after make > depend i get error=20 >=20 > what should i do ? Show us the error. Kris --cWoXeonUoKmBZSoM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBgvF3Wry0BWjoQKURAiwpAJ977rJsg0naGMT8n+rIkMZzxl0bTwCg+0R0 FYXbbB1iMhVFhbHTpjgqyRs= =AaIi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --cWoXeonUoKmBZSoM-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 01:55:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8684016A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 01:55:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp109.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp109.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 563F343D2D for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 01:55:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lloyd545220-trucker@yahoo.com) Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.50.205.109?) (wyoming?antelope@204.110.228.83 with plain) by smtp109.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Oct 2004 01:55:38 -0000 Message-ID: <4182F497.8040407@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 19:55:35 -0600 From: Lloyd Hayes User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040803 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." References: <4182C0A9.8040701@yahoo.com> <4182CE6A.60708@daleco.biz> In-Reply-To: <4182CE6A.60708@daleco.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg86 -config error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 01:55:38 -0000 These two pages are part of the same online document which you can download in PDF format. http://freedesktop.org/~xorg/X11R6.8.0/doc/newport2.html http://freedesktop.org/~xorg/X11R6.8.0/doc/newport3.html Lloyd Hayes Email: lloyd545220-trucker@yahoo.com URL: http://TalkingStaff.bravehost.com E-FAX Number: (208) 248-6590 Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. wrote: > Lloyd Hayes wrote: > >> I think that I have this figured out. >> >> On the X.Org website under New Port Users, it says that it only >> supports 1280x1024 mode and color depths of only 8 and 24 bit. >> >> My old laptop has a 800x600 screen and 16 bit color depth. >> (For that matter, my newest laptop only has a 1024x768 pixel screen!) >> >> > > That doesn't seem quite reasonable --- XFree86 doesn't have any > such constraints, why should its successor? I just don't think that > the Project would have switched to X.Org if it wasn't up to snuff. > What is the URI of the page to which you refer? > > The first thought that popped into my head upon reading your > first post is that you weren't "root" at the time you tried the > command .... > > Kevin Kinsey > DaleCo, S.P. > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 02:00:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F29916A4D3 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 02:00:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web40909.mail.yahoo.com (web40909.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.78.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 23B9E43D31 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 02:00:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from son_jaya@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20041030020019.61384.qmail@web40909.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [202.158.77.194] by web40909.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 19:00:19 PDT Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 19:00:19 -0700 (PDT) From: sonjaya To: freebsd-quest In-Reply-To: <20041030014215.GA69218@xor.obsecurity.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: ipfilter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 02:00:19 -0000 here the log ./../../contrib/ipfilter/netinet/ip_fil.c: In function `fr_check_wrapper': ../../../contrib/ipfilter/netinet/ip_fil.c:319: error: `PFIL_OUT' undeclared (first use in this function) ../../../contrib/ipfilter/netinet/ip_fil.c:319: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once ../../../contrib/ipfilter/netinet/ip_fil.c:319: error: for each function it appears in.) ../../../contrib/ipfilter/netinet/ip_fil.c: In function `fr_check_wrapper6': ../../../contrib/ipfilter/netinet/ip_fil.c:329: error: `PFIL_OUT' undeclared (first use in this function) ../../../contrib/ipfilter/netinet/ip_fil.c: In function `iplattach': ../../../contrib/ipfilter/netinet/ip_fil.c:376: warning: unused variable `ph_inet' ../../../contrib/ipfilter/netinet/ip_fil.c:378: warning: unused variable `ph_inet6' ../../../contrib/ipfilter/netinet/ip_fil.c: At top level: ../../../contrib/ipfilter/netinet/ip_fil.c:317: warning: `fr_check_wrapper' defined but not used ../../../contrib/ipfilter/netinet/ip_fil.c:327: warning: `fr_check_wrapper6' defined but not used *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/i386/compile/MTC. --- Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 06:15:27PM -0700, sonjaya > wrote: > > dear all > > i try use ipnat in my kernel i use this : > > options IPFILTER > > options IPFILTER_LOG > > > > this is correct because when i try make after make > > depend i get error > > > > what should i do ? > > Show us the error. > > Kris > > ATTACHMENT part 2 application/pgp-signature ===== SONJAYA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 02:09:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ED0816A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 02:09:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp109.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp109.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3AF3443D53 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 02:09:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lloyd545220-trucker@yahoo.com) Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.50.205.109?) (wyoming?antelope@204.110.228.83 with plain) by smtp109.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Oct 2004 02:09:44 -0000 Message-ID: <4182F7E6.3030606@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:09:42 -0600 From: Lloyd Hayes User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040803 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." References: <4182C0A9.8040701@yahoo.com> <4182CE6A.60708@daleco.biz> In-Reply-To: <4182CE6A.60708@daleco.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg86 -config error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 02:09:45 -0000 Sorry, I didn't finish the reply before sending the previous message. Yes, I was logged in as root. I was looking and could not find a configuration file, so I started reading the docs. They refer to setting the X- software during the installation, but that option was not presented to me. I can install v5.2.1 and it will be right there. But on v5.3, it isn't there. The docs on the CD also referred to using : Xorg -configure You've read the error that I got. So, I headed for the Xorg website and downloaded some of their PDF help files. These two pages are part of the same online document which you can download in PDF format. http://freedesktop.org/~xorg/X11R6.8.0/doc/newport2.html http://freedesktop.org/~xorg/X11R6.8.0/doc/newport3.html Xorg only has a 1280x1024 mode. My old laptop supports an 800x600x18 screen. (As opposed to the 800x600x16 that I posted before.) Xorg supports 8 and 24 bit color. Lloyd Hayes Email: lloyd545220-trucker@yahoo.com URL: http://TalkingStaff.bravehost.com E-FAX Number: (208) 248-6590 Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. wrote: > Lloyd Hayes wrote: > >> I think that I have this figured out. >> >> On the X.Org website under New Port Users, it says that it only >> supports 1280x1024 mode and color depths of only 8 and 24 bit. >> >> My old laptop has a 800x600 screen and 16 bit color depth. >> (For that matter, my newest laptop only has a 1024x768 pixel screen!) >> >> > > That doesn't seem quite reasonable --- XFree86 doesn't have any > such constraints, why should its successor? I just don't think that > the Project would have switched to X.Org if it wasn't up to snuff. > What is the URI of the page to which you refer? > > The first thought that popped into my head upon reading your > first post is that you weren't "root" at the time you tried the > command .... > > Kevin Kinsey > DaleCo, S.P. > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 02:20:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CCFB16A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 02:20:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp107.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp107.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.169.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4364F43D5C for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 02:20:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lloyd545220-trucker@yahoo.com) Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.50.205.109?) (wyoming?antelope@204.110.228.83 with plain) by smtp107.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Oct 2004 02:20:32 -0000 Message-ID: <4182FA6E.8060703@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:20:30 -0600 From: Lloyd Hayes User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040803 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." References: <4182C0A9.8040701@yahoo.com> <4182CE6A.60708@daleco.biz> In-Reply-To: <4182CE6A.60708@daleco.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg86 -config error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 02:20:33 -0000 I always think about things after I hit the SEND button. A lot of people will be reading this and say, "18 bit color?" That's what the Gateway specs say. 18 bit color depth for this computer. Lloyd Hayes Email: lloyd545220-trucker@yahoo.com URL: http://TalkingStaff.bravehost.com E-FAX Number: (208) 248-6590 > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 02:30:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEDB516A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 02:30:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33AB843D72 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 02:30:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from root by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CNj0O-0005ZL-00 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 04:30:12 +0200 Received: from pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net ([68.83.169.224]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 04:30:12 +0200 Received: from apeiron by pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 04:30:12 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Christopher Nehren Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 02:17:31 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 35 Message-ID: <20041030021731.GA2929@prophecy.dyndns.org> References: <41825DCE.5010206@nyc.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ" X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41825DCE.5010206@nyc.rr.com> X-Please-CC-Me: In List Replies User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Sender: news Subject: Re: starting apache2 just hangs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 02:30:14 -0000 --mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 11:12:14 EDT, asolomon15 scribbled these curious markings: > I am having a problem starting my apache webserver. I had it running=20 > just fine but a few days ago I had a power outage. When trying to start= =20 > the apache it will just hang there and not start at all. Anyone have=20 > any ideas? What do your logs say? --=20 I abhor a system designed for the "user", if that word is a coded pejorative meaning "stupid and unsophisticated". -- Ken Thompson - Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. --mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBgvm7k/lo7zvzJioRAuzGAJ0VReKeF2IeXe1MlpcmIP+GcPLiMACcCE4U +n18AMFUaiauj73H0LbPkPA= =dvGo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 02:47:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D446D16A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 02:47:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33B0843D3F for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 02:47:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-a140.otenet.gr [212.205.215.140]) i9U2lFZL015555; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:47:17 +0300 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i9U2lCst039530; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:47:12 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id i9U2lBmE039529; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:47:11 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:47:11 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: sonjaya Message-ID: <20041030024711.GA39489@gothmog.gr> References: <20041030014215.GA69218@xor.obsecurity.org> <20041030020019.61384.qmail@web40909.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041030020019.61384.qmail@web40909.mail.yahoo.com> cc: freebsd-quest Subject: Re: ipfilter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 02:47:20 -0000 On 2004-10-29 19:00, sonjaya wrote: > --- Kris Kennaway wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 06:15:27PM -0700, sonjaya > > wrote: > > > dear all > > > i try use ipnat in my kernel i use this : > > > options IPFILTER > > > options IPFILTER_LOG > > > > > > this is correct because when i try make after make > > > depend i get error > > > > > > what should i do ? > > > > Show us the error. > > here the log > ./../../contrib/ipfilter/netinet/ip_fil.c: In function `fr_check_wrapper': > ../../../contrib/ipfilter/netinet/ip_fil.c:319: error: `PFIL_OUT' undeclared (first use in this function) > ../../../contrib/ipfilter/netinet/ip_fil.c:319: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > ../../../contrib/ipfilter/netinet/ip_fil.c:319: error: for each function it appears in.) > ../../../contrib/ipfilter/netinet/ip_fil.c: In function `fr_check_wrapper6': > ../../../contrib/ipfilter/netinet/ip_fil.c:329: error: `PFIL_OUT' undeclared (first use in this function) > ../../../contrib/ipfilter/netinet/ip_fil.c: In function `iplattach': > ../../../contrib/ipfilter/netinet/ip_fil.c:376: warning: unused variable `ph_inet' > ../../../contrib/ipfilter/netinet/ip_fil.c:378: warning: unused variable `ph_inet6' > ../../../contrib/ipfilter/netinet/ip_fil.c: At top level: > ../../../contrib/ipfilter/netinet/ip_fil.c:317: warning: `fr_check_wrapper' defined but not used > ../../../contrib/ipfilter/netinet/ip_fil.c:327: warning: `fr_check_wrapper6' defined but not used > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/sys/i386/compile/MTC. You didn't mention what version of FreeBSD you're running, but it seems you have a version older than 5.3 and your kernel config does not have the PFIL_HOOKS option. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 02:53:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC12A16A4CF for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 02:53:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [65.173.111.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C0D343D2F for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 02:53:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i9U2r8B2062632; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:53:08 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with ESMTP id i9U2r8PG062629; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:53:08 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:53:08 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Sean Murphy In-Reply-To: <4182CFCD.3050402@calarts.edu> Message-ID: <20041029204702.N24006@wonkity.com> References: <4182CFCD.3050402@calarts.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.5.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:53:09 -0600 (MDT) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sendmail Anti-Spam X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 02:53:20 -0000 On Fri, 29 Oct 2004, Sean Murphy wrote: > I want to add an anti-spam solution to sendmail. I was wondering what > solution you chose for server side anti-spam and how well it works for you. milter-greylist in combination with clamav-milter, a few select DNSBLs, and entries in access.db for the worst offenders works wonders. Here's an article I wrote on it a while back: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/greylist.pdf This article doesn't cover the latter two concepts, and it's only a PDF for now. If time permits, I'll expand it and generate text and HTML versions. (Now that I think about it, the article uses the clamav-devel port, which should be replaced with the plain clamav port now.) -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 03:11:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 368AF16A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 03:11:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-05.tampabay.rr.com (ms-smtp-05-smtplb.tampabay.rr.com [65.32.5.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B725043D3F for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 03:11:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scphantm@yahoo.com) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (24286hfc39.tampabay.rr.com [24.28.6.39]) i9U3BUNu006338 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:11:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4183067C.8090102@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:11:56 -0400 From: Steel City Phantom User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: running php4 and php5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 03:11:33 -0000 i need to configure both on my bsd machine. i found a few pages on the web that had some general instructions on how to do it, but i was hoping someone here could tell me how to do it using the ports collection. http://wiki.coggeshall.org/37.html looked promising, but i wanted to see what you guys thought first one requirement that i have is i need to run pretty much all the php extentions for both of them. so if i run php4-extensions and php5-extension, what am i going to screw up? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 03:11:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCB6A16A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 03:11:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D22643D39 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 03:11:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:08:09 -0500 Message-ID: <41830671.3040107@daleco.biz> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:11:45 -0500 From: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041023 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lloyd Hayes References: <4182C0A9.8040701@yahoo.com> <4182CE6A.60708@daleco.biz> <4182F7E6.3030606@yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <4182F7E6.3030606@yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Oct 2004 03:08:10.0513 (UTC) FILETIME=[AFC7D010:01C4BE2D] cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg86 -config error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 03:11:46 -0000 Lloyd Hayes wrote: > Sorry, I didn't finish the reply before sending the previous message. > > Yes, I was logged in as root. > I was looking and could not find a configuration file, so I started > reading the docs. They refer to setting the X- software during the > installation, but that option was not presented to me. I can install > v5.2.1 and it will be right there. But on v5.3, it isn't there. > > The docs on the CD also referred to using : Xorg -configure > You've read the error that I got. > > So, I headed for the Xorg website and downloaded some of their PDF > help files. > > These two pages are part of the same online document which you can > download in PDF format. > > http://freedesktop.org/~xorg/X11R6.8.0/doc/newport2.html > http://freedesktop.org/~xorg/X11R6.8.0/doc/newport3.html > > Xorg only has a 1280x1024 mode. My old laptop supports an 800x600x18 > screen. (As opposed to the 800x600x16 that I posted before.) Xorg > supports 8 and 24 bit color. > > > Lloyd Hayes OK, so what you meant to say is something like "X.Org only supports 8 and 24-bit modes at 1280x1024 for the SGI newport cards." Now, is that really the card you have? I'm rather dense, but I thought you said you have a Gateway laptop, not an SGI workstation with a "newport" video card in it ... KDK From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 03:34:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 858DE16A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 03:34:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3059D43D39 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 03:34:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsdnews@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so10738wri for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:34:37 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=jzXWabaqFfqcg+RABuMsnmvzPSoBBn7ZXKJoRSUsBjsXNOn4kEEBYmLNAcbKyz2h2Hw9gfue5yM5xZCkY9/UyycWQNNBh1oZk5CZqG7zJO+Bvxp4j5qq1fkUu16pmpKVyoTaKJ0HxQSf24v1AjQkjikoctGrNkKE6XyMNfTddq0= Received: by 10.54.30.8 with SMTP id d8mr432wrd; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:34:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.26.36 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:34:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8292450b04102920342e41b37a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:34:37 -0500 From: CHris Rich To: Kent Stewart In-Reply-To: <200410291501.17212.kstewart@owt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200410291416.20734.kstewart@owt.com> <200410291501.17212.kstewart@owt.com> cc: Andreas Davour cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sound volume in KDE3.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: CHris Rich List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 03:34:47 -0000 This is what worked for me.... While in KDE open a terminal window, su to root and run kmix, and check the remember volume box. That's what has worked for me On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:01:17 -0700, Kent Stewart wrote: > On Friday 29 October 2004 02:37 pm, Andreas Davour wrote: > > On Fri, 29 Oct 2004, Kent Stewart wrote: > > > On Friday 29 October 2004 02:06 pm, Andreas Davour wrote: > > >> Since I did my last cvsup I have had many annoying problems, many > > >> related to firefox. This about KDE is even more annoying. > > >> > > >> So, is there any permanent solution to the KDE setting my volume to 0? > > >> I saw some reply to the problem about removing a file somewhere, which > > >> didn't stop the volume from reset to zero after a reboot. > > >> > > >> Can I make kmix remember my settings somehow? I'm beginning to tired of > > >> running kmix every time I start up just to raise the volume. > > > > > > That is one of the configuration options. > > > > You're refering to the "Restore volumes on login" clickbox? I tried > > that, and it didn't work. That's why I'm getting annoyed. Maybe I should > > just pkg_delete both firefox and KDE and start over then. > > > > Yes, that is the option. I have had irritating things happen and finally > deleted the .kde directory in my home spot. You have to prepare because you > lose all of your bookmarks and etc. and you want to back them up. It usually > turned out to be something else such as power options but you never know. > > > > Kent > > -- > Kent Stewart > Richland, WA > > http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 03:54:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A497116A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 03:54:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0BB7943D2F for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 03:54:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dkelly@HiWAAY.net) Received: (qmail 12445 invoked by uid 0); 30 Oct 2004 03:54:59 -0000 Received: from user-69-73-60-132.knology.net (HELO ?10.0.0.68?) (69.73.60.132) by smtp2.knology.net with SMTP; 30 Oct 2004 03:54:59 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) In-Reply-To: References: <20041029223412.GD4114@keyslapper.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <69B28466-2A27-11D9-B312-000393BB56F2@HiWAAY.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David Kelly Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:54:34 -0500 To: FreeBSD_Questions FreeBSD_Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Subject: Re: More Intel ICH5 SATA150 hangs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 03:54:39 -0000 On Oct 29, 2004, at 7:48 PM, Mike Tancsa wrote: >> Same result the other poor schmuck got when he tried it. There was >> also a suggestion that HT be turned off. Kinda defeats the whole > > HT works against you unless the scheduler is specifically aware of it, > and right now the ULE scheduler is broken. For sure turn HT off in > your BIOS and make sure you use SCHED_4BSD and NOT ULE I turned off HT on my Dell PE400SC (uses Intel ICH5 chipset) almost instantly after installing FreeBSD. Partitioning and labeling my SATA drives went just fine. System is on a PATA drive. Even striping the two SATA drives with Vinum followed by newfs was fine. System locked hard the instant I actually tried to use the SATA drives. Reformatted without vinum and had similar lock/panic. This was possibly 5.2.1-p10. Have darn near the latest 5.3 on it now and its running nicely w/o HT. Pretty sure ULE was the scheduler being used when I had problems as I remember when SCHED_4BSD was the new default. IMO, when it worked, ULE ran smoother. Now it seems that one process can hog the filesystem resources and block out another doing the exact same thing but to another file. That instance with HT was the first and only time FreeBSD messed up a filesystem and I've had at least one FreeBSD machine running 24/7 since 2.0.0-RELEASE. As a result I'm not much in the mood to re-enable HT now that I have real data on the drives. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 04:29:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E780B16A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 04:29:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from darkness-is.com (adsl247-146.incentre.net [207.216.247.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78C6A43D54 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 04:29:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cculver@darkness-is.com) Received: from darknessws1 (adsl247-142.incentre.net [207.216.247.142]) by darkness-is.com (darkness-is.com [207.216.247.146]) (MDaemon.PRO.v6.8.5.R) with ESMTP id 64-md50000000044.tmp for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:25:54 -0600 From: "Clay" To: Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:28:21 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcS+OOM0PFD9G2utRIirbjgF0noHfA== X-MDRemoteIP: 207.216.247.142 X-Return-Path: cculver@darkness-is.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=4.7 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: **** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-Spam-Report: ---- Start SpamAssassin results 4.70 points, 5 required; Message preview: Hi, does not seem to get much use. [...] Content analysis details: HTML_MESSAGE (0.1 points) BODY: HTML included in message HTML_50_60 (0.5 points) BODY: Message is 50% to 60% HTML MS Outlookisn't ---- End SpamAssassin results X-Spam-Processed: darkness-is.com, Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:25:59 -0600 Message-Id: <20041030042928.78C6A43D54@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Apache 2.0.52 help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 04:29:29 -0000 Hi, Sorry about posting this to apache@freebsd.org also but that list does not seem to get much use. I just did a default install of FreeBSD 4.10 and used CVSup to download the newest port of Apache (2.0.52), did a make, then make install everything looked like it went well. Used /usr/local/sbin/apachectl start, to start up the httpd and put this line in to my /etc/rc.conf so it will start up when the server boots. The problem I am having is that anyone not on the subnet on the server gets a DNS error (Page can not be displayed). I can view the page fine as I have the same subnet of the server, but tried it on another machine (different Internet Service Provider) to verify and it would not load. Any suggestions on what could be causing this issue? I am new to both FreeBSD and Apache, and right now am finding the documentation for Apache 2 a little lacking for troubleshooting something like this. Clay From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 04:39:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DEF816A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 04:39:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3CAA43D41 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 04:39:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jdoolittle@kingsquarry.net) Received: from saturn.kingsquarry.net ([68.209.160.53]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.netESMTP <20041030043945.MKHY2398.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@saturn.kingsquarry.net> for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 00:39:45 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.kingsquarry.net [127.0.0.1]) by saturn.kingsquarry.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8256E6114 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 00:39:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from saturn.kingsquarry.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (saturn.kingsquarry.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 04780-02 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 00:39:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.71] (mars.kingsquarry.net [192.168.1.71]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by saturn.kingsquarry.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91E766113 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 00:39:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <41831B0D.9050305@kingsquarry.net> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 00:39:41 -0400 From: Jeff Doolittle User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <20041029223412.GD4114@keyslapper.org> In-Reply-To: <20041029223412.GD4114@keyslapper.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at kingsquarry.net Subject: Re: More Intel ICH5 SATA150 hangs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 04:39:46 -0000 Louis LeBlanc wrote: >I know I've asked this question before, and I sure hate to start >sounding like a broken record, but I wasn't able to get a solution >last time around. The problem is with an Intel ICH5 SATA150 Disk >Controller. I'm still getting errors when the disk is placed under >load: > >Oct 29 15:02:24 key2 kernel: ad4: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (2 retries left) LBA=62023103 >Oct 29 15:02:29 key2 kernel: ad4: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (2 retries left) LBA=61992511 > >I'll get a couple of these and then the whole system freezes, >requiring a hard boot. Recovery always involves manually running fsck >on one or more partitions, and sometimes lost data. > > Yes, I've been there before with my ASUS P4C800-E.... >I've included various bits of info in past postings. I'll re-collect >whatever info might be helpful if anyone wants, but the scanpci output >describing the controller is here: > >pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x1f function 0x00: vendor 0x8086 device 0x24d0 > Intel Corp. 82801EB LPC Interface Controller > >The system is a fairly new (3 months old) Dell 8300; 3Ghz Pentium with >HT enabled. The disk controller is an Intel ICH5 SATA controller, as >mentioned above. The disk is a WDC WD1600JD-75HBB0 (Western Digital). > >Last time I asked about this, it was suggested that the drive might be >bad. The bios had a test that passed the drive. It was then >suggested that I use the WD test utility. I wasn't able to do this at >the time because I don't have a floppy on this system, and creating a >bootable CD from the image didn't work (I think it had a: hardcoded >in). Well, I finally broke down and hijacked the floppy from another >machine and ran the WD diags. Passed with flying colors, both the >quick test and the extended test. The drive is fine. > >So today I was building OpenOffice and everything came to a screeching >halt again. See the log entries above. > >I did a lot of googling to see if there was anything about the >controller and the WRITE_DMA message out there - even associated with >Linux or any other *nix. Very little, but there were suggestions to >change the CPU to compatible mode. I tried this and it wouldn't boot. > > CPU to "compatible mode"? What worked for my ASUS was to change the Serial ATA from enhanced mode to compatible mode which results in the loss of either your Primary or Secondary IDE channel. I've been running this way for months without a problem. I use the onboard Promise controller for my "live" data and do a weekly dump to the WDC drives on the ICH5 "compatible" mode enabled drives. The only reboots of the box have been for newer versions of CURRENT and now STABLE. >Same result the other poor schmuck got when he tried it. There was >also a suggestion that HT be turned off. Kinda defeats the whole >purpose of spending the extra $100 when I bought this system, so I >didn't bother trying it - especially since there were folks out there >that said it wasn't related - they had no problems with the Disk >controller and HT. > > > For the record I'm still running with HT enabled although I might turn it off after reading many messages about how system performance is impacted. >So, I'm back to the 5.2.1 kernel and/or driver. There's also the fact >that this particular controller isn't mentioned in the 5.2.1 hardware >support list on the FreeBSD site, but it is mentioned in the 4.10 >hardware support list. > >I'd rather stick with 5.x, of course, but I don't know if my hardware >is dropping off the support list. > >If I were to put the system in place as my server, and it locked up, >it would be a real pain in the ass, with me getting all grumpy over >it. On the other hand, I really want to get the venerable old 400Mhz >system out of here. > >Anyone have any other suggestions, info, whatever? I'll try turning >off HT if that's the only way to go for now, but I don't see how that >could be the problem - unless there's a locking problem in the kernel >- which I'd hope gets fixed in 5.3. > >Thanks in advance for all feedback. > >Lou > > Hopefully the above is of some help. Good luck - Jeff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 04:49:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A52D016A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 04:49:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pd3mo2so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 634B943D54 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 04:49:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from flowers@nekulturny.org) Received: from pd4mr7so.prod.shaw.ca (pd4mr7so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.84])2004))freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:49:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml5so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.149]) by pd4mr7so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0I6D00K36S2EWM80@pd4mr7so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:49:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from procyon.nekulturny.org (S0106000c41b2b9a3.cg.shawcable.net [68.144.45.143]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.18 (built Jul 28 2003)) with ESMTP id <0I6D0087QS2DV3@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:49:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from procyon.nekulturny.org (localhost.nekulturny.org [127.0.0.1]) i9U4nP9o000996; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:49:25 -0600 (MDT envelope-from flowers@nekulturny.org) Received: (from flowers@localhost) by procyon.nekulturny.org (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i9U4nOnV000995; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:49:24 -0600 (MDT envelope-from flowers) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:49:24 -0600 From: Danny MacMillan In-reply-to: <20041030042928.78C6A43D54@mx1.FreeBSD.org> To: Clay Message-id: <20041030044924.GA776@procyon.nekulturny.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline References: <20041030042928.78C6A43D54@mx1.FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache 2.0.52 help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 04:49:26 -0000 On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 10:28:21PM -0600, Clay wrote: > I just did a default install of FreeBSD 4.10 and used CVSup to > download the newest port of Apache (2.0.52), did a make, then make install > everything looked like it went well. Used /usr/local/sbin/apachectl start, > to start up the httpd and put this line in to my /etc/rc.conf so it will > start up when the server boots. The problem I am having is that anyone not > on the subnet on the server gets a DNS error (Page can not be displayed). > I can view the page fine as I have the same subnet of the server, but tried > it on another machine (different Internet Service Provider) to verify and > it would not load. Any suggestions on what could be causing this issue? I > am new to both FreeBSD and Apache, and right now am finding the > documentation for Apache 2 a little lacking for troubleshooting something > like this. Doesn't sound like an Apache problem to me. From outside the subnet, can you ping the server by ip? By name? Is it a public (routable) IP address? -- Danny From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 04:54:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFC6616A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 04:54:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from darkness-is.com (adsl247-146.incentre.net [207.216.247.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C91443D55 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 04:54:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cculver@darkness-is.com) Received: from darknessws1 (adsl247-142.incentre.net [207.216.247.142]) by darkness-is.com (darkness-is.com [207.216.247.146]) (MDaemon.PRO.v6.8.5.R) with ESMTP id 7-md50000000045.tmp for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:51:24 -0600 From: "Clay" To: Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:53:54 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <20041030044924.GA776@procyon.nekulturny.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcS+O4eROt6pWeJuTFKQaYut35+KeAAAMGMw X-MDRemoteIP: 207.216.247.142 X-Return-Path: cculver@darkness-is.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,IN_REP_TO, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-Spam-Report: ---- Start SpamAssassin results 2.10 points, 5 required; Message preview: Hi, machine that is running off a different ISP can ping the machine just not connect to it through a web browser. Clay Content analysis details: IN_REP_TO (-0.5 points) Has a In-Reply-To header email attributionquoted email textMS Outlook REPLY_WITH_QUOTES (-0.5 points) Reply with quoted textisn't ---- End SpamAssassin results X-Spam-Processed: darkness-is.com, Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:51:28 -0600 Message-Id: <20041030045423.6C91443D55@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Subject: RE: Apache 2.0.52 help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 04:54:23 -0000 Hi, Yes the IP address can be pinged from outside of the subnet. The machine that is running off a different ISP can ping the machine just not connect to it through a web browser. Clay -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Danny MacMillan Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 10:49 PM To: Clay Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache 2.0.52 help On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 10:28:21PM -0600, Clay wrote: > I just did a default install of FreeBSD 4.10 and used CVSup to > download the newest port of Apache (2.0.52), did a make, then make install > everything looked like it went well. Used /usr/local/sbin/apachectl start, > to start up the httpd and put this line in to my /etc/rc.conf so it will > start up when the server boots. The problem I am having is that anyone not > on the subnet on the server gets a DNS error (Page can not be displayed). > I can view the page fine as I have the same subnet of the server, but tried > it on another machine (different Internet Service Provider) to verify and > it would not load. Any suggestions on what could be causing this issue? I > am new to both FreeBSD and Apache, and right now am finding the > documentation for Apache 2 a little lacking for troubleshooting something > like this. Doesn't sound like an Apache problem to me. From outside the subnet, can you ping the server by ip? By name? Is it a public (routable) IP address? -- Danny _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 04:54:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBE4F16A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 04:54:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.proficuous.com (www.proficuous.com [209.240.79.128]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 889B443D39 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 04:54:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ml@proficuous.com) Received: from [192.168.3.69] (aaron-workstation.proficuous.com [192.168.3.69]) by mail.proficuous.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14655A89535; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:54:16 -0500 (CDT) From: "Aaron P. Martinez" To: Clay In-Reply-To: <20041030042928.78C6A43D54@mx1.FreeBSD.org> References: <20041030042928.78C6A43D54@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1099112098.18749.290.camel@aaron.proficuous.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 (1.4.6-2) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:54:59 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache 2.0.52 help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 04:54:25 -0000 On Fri, 2004-10-29 at 23:28, Clay wrote: > Hi, > > > > Sorry about posting this to apache@freebsd.org also but that > list does not seem to get much use. > > > > I just did a default install of FreeBSD 4.10 and used CVSup to > download the newest port of Apache (2.0.52), did a make, then make install > everything looked like it went well. Used /usr/local/sbin/apachectl start, > to start up the httpd and put this line in to my /etc/rc.conf so it will > start up when the server boots. The problem I am having is that anyone not > on the subnet on the server gets a DNS error (Page can not be displayed). I > can view the page fine as I have the same subnet of the server, but tried it > on another machine (different Internet Service Provider) to verify and it > would not load. Chances are, if you can see it on the same subnet, a networking or dns issue.if not both is the culprit. > Any suggestions on what could be causing this issue? To give any 'good' suggestion.....we need to know more about your network........The machine running apache..is it in a private network or is it on a network that is public? What type of gateway to the internet do you have and if you have a nat like on a dsl router or are natting on a bsd firewall machine..do you have portforwarding (sorry..i'm new to fbsd so maybe it's called something diff i haven't gotten that far yet) enabled sending incoming port 80 requests to your apache server? Lastly..do you have a dns domain name set up for the server you are trying to hit? if not you will not be able to get to your server unless you give the ip address. > I am > new to both FreeBSD and Apache, and right now am finding the documentation > for Apache 2 a little lacking for troubleshooting something like this. > > > > Clay Aaron From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 05:00:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D31DC16A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:00:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from darkness-is.com (adsl247-146.incentre.net [207.216.247.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F27643D5E for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:00:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cculver@darkness-is.com) Received: from darknessws1 (adsl247-142.incentre.net [207.216.247.142]) by darkness-is.com (darkness-is.com [207.216.247.146]) (MDaemon.PRO.v6.8.5.R) with ESMTP id 12-md50000000045.tmp for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:58:07 -0600 From: "Clay" To: Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:00:36 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <1099112098.18749.290.camel@aaron.proficuous.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcS+PDA/KcwUWHuWR1yHqmpitZSzxgAAIDxQ X-MDRemoteIP: 207.216.247.142 X-Return-Path: cculver@darkness-is.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,IN_REP_TO, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-Spam-Report: ---- Start SpamAssassin results 2.10 points, 5 required; Message preview: Hi, The machine running Apache is not on a private network, (has been for roughly four years). The only thing between the Apache server and the internet is a 3Com ADSL modem, nothing more and nothing less. [...] Content analysis details: IN_REP_TO (-0.5 points) Has a In-Reply-To header email attributionquoted email textMS Outlook REPLY_WITH_QUOTES (-0.5 points) Reply with quoted textisn't ---- End SpamAssassin results X-Spam-Processed: darkness-is.com, Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:58:08 -0600 Message-Id: <20041030050053.6F27643D5E@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Subject: RE: Apache 2.0.52 help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:00:54 -0000 Hi, The machine running Apache is not on a private network, there is currently a Win32 platform based server running fine on it (has been for roughly four years). The only thing between the Apache server and the internet is a 3Com ADSL modem, nothing more and nothing less. There is currently no domain setup for the server, as once I get it setup it will run Plesk and from there a domain name will be tagged to it with the proper DNS entries. I am typing in to the browser http://serverip to access it right now, I guess I can route a domain name to it for testing purposes but would rather not wait the time needed for the entries to populate. Clay -----Original Message----- From: Aaron P. Martinez [mailto:ml@proficuous.com] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 10:55 PM To: Clay Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache 2.0.52 help On Fri, 2004-10-29 at 23:28, Clay wrote: > Hi, > > Sorry about posting this to apache@freebsd.org also but that > list does not seem to get much use. > > I just did a default install of FreeBSD 4.10 and used CVSup to > download the newest port of Apache (2.0.52), did a make, then make install > everything looked like it went well. Used /usr/local/sbin/apachectl start, > to start up the httpd and put this line in to my /etc/rc.conf so it will > start up when the server boots. The problem I am having is that anyone not > on the subnet on the server gets a DNS error (Page can not be displayed). I > can view the page fine as I have the same subnet of the server, but tried it > on another machine (different Internet Service Provider) to verify and it > would not load. Chances are, if you can see it on the same subnet, a networking or dns issue.if not both is the culprit. > Any suggestions on what could be causing this issue? To give any 'good' suggestion.....we need to know more about your network........The machine running apache..is it in a private network or is it on a network that is public? What type of gateway to the internet do you have and if you have a nat like on a dsl router or are natting on a bsd firewall machine..do you have portforwarding (sorry..i'm new to fbsd so maybe it's called something diff i haven't gotten that far yet) enabled sending incoming port 80 requests to your apache server? Lastly..do you have a dns domain name set up for the server you are trying to hit? if not you will not be able to get to your server unless you give the ip address. > I am > new to both FreeBSD and Apache, and right now am finding the documentation > for Apache 2 a little lacking for troubleshooting something like this. > > Clay Aaron From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 05:03:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7094A16A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:03:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.proficuous.com (www.proficuous.com [209.240.79.128]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A72343D53 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:03:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ml@proficuous.com) Received: from [192.168.3.69] (aaron-workstation.proficuous.com [192.168.3.69]) by mail.proficuous.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF139A89537; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 00:03:15 -0500 (CDT) From: "Aaron P. Martinez" To: Clay In-Reply-To: <20041030045423.6C91443D55@mx1.FreeBSD.org> References: <20041030045423.6C91443D55@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1099112630.18749.305.camel@aaron.proficuous.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 (1.4.6-2) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 00:03:50 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Apache 2.0.52 help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:03:16 -0000 On Fri, 2004-10-29 at 23:53, Clay wrote: > Hi, > > Yes the IP address can be pinged from outside of the subnet. The > machine that is running off a different ISP can ping the machine just not > connect to it through a web browser. > > Clay > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Danny MacMillan > Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 10:49 PM > To: Clay > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Apache 2.0.52 help > > On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 10:28:21PM -0600, Clay wrote: > > I just did a default install of FreeBSD 4.10 and used CVSup to > > download the newest port of Apache (2.0.52), did a make, then make install > > everything looked like it went well. Used /usr/local/sbin/apachectl start, > > to start up the httpd and put this line in to my /etc/rc.conf so it will > > start up when the server boots. The problem I am having is that anyone not > > on the subnet on the server gets a DNS error (Page can not be displayed). > > I can view the page fine as I have the same subnet of the server, but > tried > > it on another machine (different Internet Service Provider) to verify and > > it would not load. Any suggestions on what could be causing this issue? I > > am new to both FreeBSD and Apache, and right now am finding the > > documentation for Apache 2 a little lacking for troubleshooting something > > like this. > > Doesn't sound like an Apache problem to me. From outside the subnet, can > you ping the server by ip? By name? Is it a public (routable) IP address? Hi Clay, please bottom post..it helps people get the whole story.. you can ping the ip from remote isp.......can you also telnet to port 80 on the apache machine from the remote isp? telnet 80 Aaron From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 05:12:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D578D16A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:12:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from darkness-is.com (adsl247-146.incentre.net [207.216.247.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D4CA43D2F for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:12:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cculver@darkness-is.com) Received: from darknessws1 (adsl247-142.incentre.net [207.216.247.142]) by darkness-is.com (darkness-is.com [207.216.247.146]) (MDaemon.PRO.v6.8.5.R) with ESMTP id 18-md50000000045.tmp for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:09:53 -0600 From: "Clay" To: "'Aaron P. Martinez'" Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:12:23 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <1099112630.18749.305.camel@aaron.proficuous.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcS+PXWwngVCl+MpTPKZYjKsAVcAAgAAV3nA X-MDRemoteIP: 207.216.247.142 X-Return-Path: cculver@darkness-is.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,IN_REP_TO, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-Spam-Report: ---- Start SpamAssassin results 2.10 points, 5 required; Message preview: Content analysis details: IN_REP_TO (-0.5 points) Has a In-Reply-To header email attributionquoted email textMS Outlook REPLY_WITH_QUOTES (-0.5 points) Reply with quoted textisn't ---- End SpamAssassin results X-Spam-Processed: darkness-is.com, Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:09:54 -0600 Message-Id: <20041030051248.6D4CA43D2F@mx1.FreeBSD.org> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Apache 2.0.52 help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:12:49 -0000 -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Aaron P. Martinez Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 11:04 PM To: Clay Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Apache 2.0.52 help On Fri, 2004-10-29 at 23:53, Clay wrote: > Hi, > > Yes the IP address can be pinged from outside of the subnet. The > machine that is running off a different ISP can ping the machine just not > connect to it through a web browser. > > Clay > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Danny MacMillan > Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 10:49 PM > To: Clay > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Apache 2.0.52 help > > On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 10:28:21PM -0600, Clay wrote: > > I just did a default install of FreeBSD 4.10 and used CVSup to > > download the newest port of Apache (2.0.52), did a make, then make install > > everything looked like it went well. Used /usr/local/sbin/apachectl start, > > to start up the httpd and put this line in to my /etc/rc.conf so it will > > start up when the server boots. The problem I am having is that anyone not > > on the subnet on the server gets a DNS error (Page can not be displayed). > > I can view the page fine as I have the same subnet of the server, but > tried > > it on another machine (different Internet Service Provider) to verify and > > it would not load. Any suggestions on what could be causing this issue? I > > am new to both FreeBSD and Apache, and right now am finding the > > documentation for Apache 2 a little lacking for troubleshooting something > > like this. > > Doesn't sound like an Apache problem to me. From outside the subnet, can > you ping the server by ip? By name? Is it a public (routable) IP address? >Hi Clay, please bottom post..it helps people get the whole story.. >you can ping the ip from remote isp.......can you also telnet to port 80 >on the apache machine from the remote isp? >telnet 80 >Aaron Sorry, I find bottom posting a pain in the arse. No it looks like ftp and telnet do not work from the remote ISP. Clay From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 05:16:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E279E16A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:16:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A13C43D53 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:16:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 80so90583rnk for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:16:47 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=MoEVm9MH8ywQR3ETiftjqwzVbT4AFi/fJ/UXfcT6y18WICMROrt4O36fY7Pd11mFB2D/MWLwrkEYYOewJaBl5l3Q1cl5+1NHYq17RkXQm9MN0qiw4f9oxP+O430taGSF9rAf/VGBrn1vJ0MH503UcLtMim5p+7Kt/uBvvl7SKns= Received: by 10.38.8.65 with SMTP id 65mr600301rnh; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:16:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.206.40 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:16:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 10:46:47 +0530 From: Subhro To: Lloyd Hayes In-Reply-To: <4182B7B7.2080307@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <4182B7B7.2080307@yahoo.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg86 -config error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Subhro List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:16:48 -0000 On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:35:51 -0600, Lloyd Hayes wrote: > Fatal server error: > xfEnableIO: Failed to open /dev/io for extended I/O > Are you running the GENERIC kernel? and uname -a please Regards S. -- Subhro Sankha Kar School of Information Technology Block AQ-13/1 Sector V ZIP 700091 India From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 05:21:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9133316A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:21:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.proficuous.com (www.proficuous.com [209.240.79.128]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F8F143D5C for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:21:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ml@proficuous.com) Received: from [192.168.3.69] (aaron-workstation.proficuous.com [192.168.3.69]) by mail.proficuous.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9288A894EE; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 00:21:02 -0500 (CDT) From: "Aaron P. Martinez" To: Clay In-Reply-To: <20041030051249.7D454A89537@mail.proficuous.com> References: <20041030051249.7D454A89537@mail.proficuous.com> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1099113697.18749.329.camel@aaron.proficuous.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 (1.4.6-2) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 00:21:37 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Apache 2.0.52 help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:21:03 -0000 ------snip > > > I just did a default install of FreeBSD 4.10 and used CVSup > to > > > download the newest port of Apache (2.0.52), did a make, then make > install > > > everything looked like it went well. Used /usr/local/sbin/apachectl > start, > > > to start up the httpd and put this line in to my /etc/rc.conf so it will > > > start up when the server boots. The problem I am having is that anyone > not > > > on the subnet on the server gets a DNS error (Page can not be > displayed). > > > I can view the page fine as I have the same subnet of the server, but > > tried > > > it on another machine (different Internet Service Provider) to verify > and > > > it would not load. Any suggestions on what could be causing this issue? > I > > > am new to both FreeBSD and Apache, and right now am finding the > > > documentation for Apache 2 a little lacking for troubleshooting > something > > > like this. > > > > Doesn't sound like an Apache problem to me. From outside the subnet, can > > you ping the server by ip? By name? Is it a public (routable) IP > address? > > >Hi Clay, please bottom post..it helps people get the whole story.. > > >you can ping the ip from remote isp.......can you also telnet to port 80 > >on the apache machine from the remote isp? > > >telnet 80 > > >Aaron > > Sorry, I find bottom posting a pain in the arse. No it looks like > ftp and telnet do not work from the remote ISP. > You say you're behind a 3com dsl router..... do you have port 80 set to forward port 80 requests to the machine running apache? the pings that you are seeing are likely just ping responses from the external IP of the dsl router. Aaron From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 05:22:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B9D416A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:22:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 112BF43D54 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:22:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) i9U5MbY08867; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:22:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:22:37 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: <111.3bb62c91.2eb39874@aol.com> Importance: Normal cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: GPL vs BSD Licence X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:22:43 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of TM4525@aol.com > Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 5:58 AM > To: tedm@toybox.placo.com > Cc: questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: GPL vs BSD Licence > > > The FSF doesnt have standing with Linux so they can blow as hard as > they like and no one will really care. Um, no I'm afraid it's not that simple. The FSF has publically stated that they will not 'go to bat' in a legal sense over GPL violations of non-FSF copyrighted code. In other words you are correct in that nobody cares what the FSF says about violations of the GPL license on Linux, because the FSF doesen't hold copyright on Linux. However, all it would take is someone to write a really useful part of the Linux kernel, and transfer copyright ownership over to the FSF. In that case an infringement against that section would draw them in. The FSF may already hold copyright with a kernel section or a Linux LKM already, even. > > Linus has stated that, if software was written for a different > O/S and was > ported to linux, its not a "derivative work" and binary modules are > acceptable and don't have to be GPLed > This is an extreme simplification. For starters, binary modules like drivers are going to interface to LGPL code and so won't be affected. And, full-blown applications don't link into the kernel and as long as they don't link into GPL'd libraries, they won't be affected either. None of this has anything to do with what Linus 'says' Linus is not the final arbitrator of what the GPL says, and what it requires software developers to do. Only a court can do that. In any case, software that was written for a different O/S would have already dealt with any GPL issues long before a port to Linux would have taken place. Statements like this that Linus makes are pure FUD-busting PR, and aren't any kind of legal direction. > Again, the reality is that none of this (the existence of some > products that > exist as binary modules) harm the community. They offer choices for users, > and the more choices the better. What a horrible place the world would be > without TiVo (who never would have done the work if they couldn't > protect it) > Yah, people might actually have to READ a book instead of watching the TV. What horrors!! Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 05:24:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E142B16A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:24:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EDD743D46 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:24:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 80so122762rnl for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:24:57 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=MgndS9N3UUxk5qyH2B9cx/G9mFdht73auiqBYJe5yF1nI13bfwts0KtVsV5hbYphVuMEUh0mKlxctBtRQdzKPcBMmUlsVjqc95OCOmshQliTQLIvQ0sY/T9r3ghjPfl6R3Lo0d+eyRr3wuykr1oJjf4ACsG+WCg/0Yi/7/YK/BQ= Received: by 10.38.206.23 with SMTP id d23mr597555rng; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:24:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.206.40 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:24:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 10:54:57 +0530 From: Subhro To: "Aaron P. Martinez" In-Reply-To: <1099096228.18749.149.camel@aaron.proficuous.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <1099096228.18749.149.camel@aaron.proficuous.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make buildworld.........24 hours???? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Subhro List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:24:58 -0000 On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 19:30:28 -0500, Aaron P. Martinez wrote: > I have an amd k6II 500 machine with 32 megs of ram, 20 gig 7200 rpm hard > drive which i just installed fresh with FBSD 5.3RC1 on the whole disk, > no boot loader. Thats not too much RAM, although the processor would not complain. What is the amount of SWAP space you created? > PS...i see a lot of this as it's building.... > > /usr/src/gnu/lib/libstdc++/../../../contrib/libstdc++/src/valarray-inst.cc:1: warning: -ffunction-sections disabled; it makes profiling impossible Thats all right. You need not worry about it. I would recommend you to refer to /etc/defaults/make.conf and disable all thoes sections of the base tree (for example bind, sendmail and a few other in my case) which you dont intend to use. Also turn of Profiled libraries as they are not required by a non developer. Also make sure you use the correct CFLAGS and the processor type. But don't tighten the screw too much ;-) Regards S -- Subhro Sankha Kar School of Information Technology Block AQ-13/1 Sector V ZIP 700091 India From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 05:28:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EF1716A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:28:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.proficuous.com (www.proficuous.com [209.240.79.128]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 277F843D1D for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:28:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ml@proficuous.com) Received: from [192.168.3.69] (aaron-workstation.proficuous.com [192.168.3.69]) by mail.proficuous.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EC09A894EE; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 00:28:25 -0500 (CDT) From: "Aaron P. Martinez" To: Subhro In-Reply-To: References: <1099096228.18749.149.camel@aaron.proficuous.com> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1099114140.18749.338.camel@aaron.proficuous.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 (1.4.6-2) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 00:29:00 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make buildworld.........24 hours???? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:28:26 -0000 ------snip > > Thats not too much RAM, although the processor would not complain. > What is the amount of SWAP space you created? 96megs Aaron From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 05:28:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8814416A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:28:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EE9C43D3F for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:28:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 80so122813rnl for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:28:43 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=dS+NGWh1kHTmrM3alfMNEoDoJk/NHQ5565s1WyRIkrD3uOsEzjGnOnJ7B9iJsQaMxo6/xD4yq+tQSer+1lP2uuVXJukHymjnm5/1cStaZWCHUacqOrRqyduCi0++c3Id0BQlW4IhpE2/xAuCF8KX0R7LVRjkJce5Dc+PJlG37Co= Received: by 10.38.206.23 with SMTP id d23mr598309rng; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:28:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.206.40 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:28:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 10:58:43 +0530 From: Subhro To: "Matthias F. Brandstetter" In-Reply-To: <200410292355.43148.haimat@lame.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200410292355.43148.haimat@lame.at> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: howto software raid under FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Subhro List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:28:44 -0000 On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:55:43 +0200, Matthias F. Brandstetter wrote: > Hi all, > > I want to create a software RAID 1 of two same disks. Buddy, software RAIDs had always been a pain in the neck. they simply are not worth it as the kernel is busy babysitting the RAID and other applications suffer. Also in case of software RAID failures, it is a nightmare. Regards S. -- Subhro Sankha Kar School of Information Technology Block AQ-13/1 Sector V ZIP 700091 India From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 05:31:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09CF816A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:31:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADE1043D1D for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:31:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 80so90739rnk for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:31:21 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=MDuzooYXB/6ILKVPfwNqO175nqsqpcwoPeyq4HnPeq4OXS+WbU5ajcsspJubKbtaHQToRqZct6Ta7msN4eVNm4ZnvFjTzsJpCgaIJJSdcJQXV/YMaYyK8vAOQgtQlQrsko7uAq+gSptNXDoZkzOXrQ+nWD1jSdtX0Cftn2dwvpw= Received: by 10.38.8.65 with SMTP id 65mr603390rnh; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:31:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.206.40 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:31:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 11:01:21 +0530 From: Subhro To: "Aaron P. Martinez" In-Reply-To: <1099114140.18749.338.camel@aaron.proficuous.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <1099096228.18749.149.camel@aaron.proficuous.com> <1099114140.18749.338.camel@aaron.proficuous.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make buildworld.........24 hours???? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Subhro List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:31:22 -0000 On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 00:29:00 -0500, Aaron P. Martinez wrote: > ------snip > > > > Thats not too much RAM, although the processor would not complain. > > What is the amount of SWAP space you created? > > 96megs > That's fine. Now as you are already quite sometime into the compiling, there is no point in restarting. But do make notice of two things, firstly the Box wont run with its full potential as further kernel Optimizations are possible and secondly, make sure you tailor make.conf as required before the next build. Regards S. -- Subhro Sankha Kar School of Information Technology Block AQ-13/1 Sector V ZIP 700091 India From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 05:33:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C0C716A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:33:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from darkness-is.com (adsl247-146.incentre.net [207.216.247.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 870E543D49 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:33:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cculver@darkness-is.com) Received: from darknessws1 (adsl247-142.incentre.net [207.216.247.142]) by darkness-is.com (darkness-is.com [207.216.247.146]) (MDaemon.PRO.v6.8.5.R) with ESMTP id 28-md50000000045.tmp for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:30:45 -0600 From: "Clay" To: "'Aaron P. Martinez'" Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:33:12 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <1099113697.18749.329.camel@aaron.proficuous.com> Thread-Index: AcS+P/ehtqYGQcyiSoyCXJl+D4atbAAAS77Q X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-MDRemoteIP: 207.216.247.142 X-Return-Path: cculver@darkness-is.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,IN_REP_TO,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-Spam-Report: ---- Start SpamAssassin results 3.10 points, 5 required; Message preview: Content analysis details: IN_REP_TO (-0.5 points) Has a In-Reply-To header quoted email textMS Outlookisn't ---- End SpamAssassin results X-Spam-Processed: darkness-is.com, Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:30:49 -0600 Message-Id: <20041030053323.870E543D49@mx1.FreeBSD.org> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Apache 2.0.52 help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:33:24 -0000 -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Aaron P. Martinez Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 11:22 PM To: Clay Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Apache 2.0.52 help ------snip > > > I just did a default install of FreeBSD 4.10 and used CVSup > to > > > download the newest port of Apache (2.0.52), did a make, then make > install > > > everything looked like it went well. Used /usr/local/sbin/apachectl > start, > > > to start up the httpd and put this line in to my /etc/rc.conf so it will > > > start up when the server boots. The problem I am having is that anyone > not > > > on the subnet on the server gets a DNS error (Page can not be > displayed). > > > I can view the page fine as I have the same subnet of the server, but > > tried > > > it on another machine (different Internet Service Provider) to verify > and > > > it would not load. Any suggestions on what could be causing this issue? > I > > > am new to both FreeBSD and Apache, and right now am finding the > > > documentation for Apache 2 a little lacking for troubleshooting > something > > > like this. > > > > Doesn't sound like an Apache problem to me. From outside the subnet, can > > you ping the server by ip? By name? Is it a public (routable) IP > address? > > >Hi Clay, please bottom post..it helps people get the whole story.. > > >you can ping the ip from remote isp.......can you also telnet to port 80 > >on the apache machine from the remote isp? > > >telnet 80 > > >Aaron > > Sorry, I find bottom posting a pain in the arse. No it looks like > ftp and telnet do not work from the remote ISP. > >You say you're behind a 3com dsl router..... do you have port 80 set to >forward port 80 requests to the machine running apache? the pings that >you are seeing are likely just ping responses from the external IP of >the dsl router. >Aaron It is not a DSL Router/Modem, just a straight old school ADSL modem. I have three static IP addresses. One is being used for the current web server, one is on the machine I am typing this on, and the third is being used for this server for testing. Clay From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 05:36:05 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB85216A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:36:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.datausa.com (ns1.datausa.com [216.150.220.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5382043D46 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:36:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@wcubed.net) Received: (qmail 49971 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2004 05:35:05 -0000 Received: from web.datausa.com (HELO webmail.wcubed.net) (216.150.220.132) by mail.datausa.com with SMTP; 30 Oct 2004 05:35:05 -0000 Received: from 67.165.234.240 (SquirrelMail authenticated user freebsd@wcubed.net) by webmail.wcubed.net with HTTP; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:30:17 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <3019.67.165.234.240.1099114217.squirrel@webmail.wcubed.net> In-Reply-To: <20041029202605.GC1046@gothmog.gr> References: <2614.67.165.234.240.1099073745.squirrel@webmail.wcubed.net> <20041029183742.GB76157@dan.emsphone.com> <20041029202605.GC1046@gothmog.gr> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:30:17 -0600 (MDT) From: "Brad Waite" To: "Giorgos Keramidas" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Building part of world X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:36:05 -0000 > On 2004-10-29 13:37, Dan Nelson wrote: >> In the last episode (Oct 29), Brad Waite said: >> > I'm trying to update my sys/pci/if_sk.c and would like to be able to >> > build several versions without having to build the entire world. >> >> Since that's a kernel driver, you only have to build a new kernel. > > An even better approach in the case of a single kernel driver is to leave > it > commented out in the kernel config file. Then it will be built as a > module by > default. After at least one buildworld/buildkernel cycle has finished > correctly with this configuration, you can use the already populated > /usr/obj > tree to build just this module: > > # cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf > # config -g -d /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL MYKERNEL > # cd /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL > # make depend && make && make install > > If you have only touched a single .c file, the 'make depend' step is AFAIK > optional. The rest should finish pretty fast. > > Brave people might even get away by building the sk module only, by > emulating the specific part of the kernel build: > > # cd /usr/src/sys/modules/sk > # env MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/tmp/sk \ > KMODDIR=/boot/kernel DEBUG_FLAGS="-g" MACHINE=i386 \ > KERNBUILDDIR="/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL" make obj > # env MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/tmp/sk \ > KMODDIR=/boot/kernel DEBUG_FLAGS="-g" MACHINE=i386 \ > KERNBUILDDIR="/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL" make all > > If all this works, you can just kldload the new if_sk.ko from > `/tmp/sk/usr/src/sys/modules/sk' to test your changes. > > HTH, > Giorgos Wow, Giorgos, this really *does* help. It never dawned on me that FBSD even supported loadable kernel modules. Feel kinda sheepish now, but hey, I guess you learn something new every day. In my stumbling around since you've enlightened me, I noticed a sk/ dir in /usr/src/sys/modules, and in there a Makefile. 'make install' apparently builds the .ko and installs it into /modules. Am I missing something here, or is this the way to go? Brad From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 05:36:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7C2416A50E for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:36:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5839643D1D for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:36:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 80so122917rnl for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:36:09 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=IbenhUnXheLNeYAaqiR6JPlLmUUDRlq6qt7SaBAC/dZNhzCqf2xaSFjAWL84Z+RnlXUNk5Ku5zwD5VTq2gID4bqMP7HxJXlRR8JjcxboQ3hl0FdlLi5DAAyNKWyTcZjJDkevhN/JocAcEs8UGtUgc7vEdL/89kmJdfdsnFAaI4Y= Received: by 10.38.206.23 with SMTP id d23mr599531rng; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:36:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.206.40 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:36:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 11:06:09 +0530 From: Subhro To: Chen Xu In-Reply-To: <184b087c04102915102f55e759@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <184b087c04102915102f55e759@mail.gmail.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.3-stable -- all CPU usage show 0% X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Subhro List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:36:10 -0000 On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:10:21 -0400, Chen Xu wrote: > I am running 5.3-stable. since 5.3RC1, my CPU status from `top` show > all zeros, like this. Can anyone tell me what is wrong? What makes you feel that something is wrong? If the processes are not using the processor I would be pretty hapy about it . Getting back to the point, processes on *nix boxes do not consume processor like the Wind0ze family of OSses. SO its perfectly normal what u see. Regards S. -- Subhro Sankha Kar School of Information Technology Block AQ-13/1 Sector V ZIP 700091 India From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 05:37:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4857416A4D3 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:37:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pd3mo1so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1FFA43D1D for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:37:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from flowers@nekulturny.org) Received: from pd2mr3so.prod.shaw.ca (pd2mr3so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.108]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0I6D00EZYUALTNA0@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:37:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml5so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.149]) by pd2mr3so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0I6D00DAZUALHH00@pd2mr3so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:37:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from procyon.nekulturny.org (S0106000c41b2b9a3.cg.shawcable.net [68.144.45.143]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.18 (built Jul 28 2003)) with ESMTP id <0I6D0049TUALON@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:37:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from procyon.nekulturny.org (localhost.nekulturny.org [127.0.0.1]) i9U5bW9o001211; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:37:32 -0600 (MDT envelope-from flowers@nekulturny.org) Received: (from flowers@localhost) by procyon.nekulturny.org (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i9U5bWMN001210; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:37:32 -0600 (MDT envelope-from flowers) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:37:31 -0600 From: Danny MacMillan In-reply-to: <20041030042928.78C6A43D54@mx1.FreeBSD.org> To: Clay Message-id: <20041030053731.GB776@procyon.nekulturny.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline References: <20041030042928.78C6A43D54@mx1.FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache 2.0.52 help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:37:36 -0000 On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 10:28:21PM -0600, Clay wrote: > I just did a default install of FreeBSD 4.10 and used > CVSup to download the newest port of Apache (2.0.52), did a make, > then make install everything looked like it went well. Used > /usr/local/sbin/apachectl start, to start up the httpd and put this > line in to my /etc/rc.conf so it will start up when the server > boots. Does this describe everything you did to the machine? In particular, would it be correct to assume that you didn't install or configure a firewall on the box, edit hosts.allow, or do anything else that might have a deleterious effect on traffic? Does the box answer to only one IP address? More to the point, does netstat -f inet show that httpd is listening to the address you are trying to connect to? Does it have more than one interface, and if so, is the same interface receiving requests from both the machine that can see the web site and the one that can't? The other box, the one fed from the different ISP, is it able to connect to other web sites? Do you have any other testing boxes you can use to try connecting to your web site? Adding DNS entries for the box will not aid in troubleshooting, unless you're using name-based virtual hosting in Apache. That seems unlikely since you can access the site by IP from the same subnet. The Windows box you had operating as a server, was it running a web server? If not, is it possible that your upstream ISP is blocking port 80? Try configuring Apache to listen on a wonky port and connecting to that instead. -- Danny From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 05:40:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 317BF16A4CF for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:40:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC18643D2F for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:40:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) i9U5eFY08993; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:40:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: , Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:40:15 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: <13c.4dfe782.2eb3ac41@aol.com> Importance: Normal cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: GPL vs BSD Licence X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:40:21 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of TM4525@aol.com > Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 7:23 AM > To: davids@webmaster.com > Cc: questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: GPL vs BSD Licence > > > The GPL is a myth. It will never be tested because if it is, it > will lose all > of > its teeth. Its much more useful in a speculative state. I don't believe that the GPL will never be tested in court. In fact I think that the FSF is really wanting to see it tested in court so that it gains some legitimacy. But I think that they are waiting for the right case to come along - one that would be so obviouly favorable to them that they would almost be guarenteed to win it. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 06:49:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4F7616A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 06:49:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pd4mo3so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70E1943D5A for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 06:49:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from flowers@nekulturny.org) Received: from pd2mr3so.prod.shaw.ca (pd2mr3so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.108]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0I6D009KNXL4RY30@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 00:48:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml5so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.149]) by pd2mr3so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0I6D00D9RXL4HFE0@pd2mr3so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 00:48:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from procyon.nekulturny.org (S0106000c41b2b9a3.cg.shawcable.net [68.144.45.143]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.18 (built Jul 28 2003)) with ESMTP id <0I6D007FRXL478@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 00:48:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from procyon.nekulturny.org (localhost.nekulturny.org [127.0.0.1]) i9U6md9o001441; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 00:48:40 -0600 (MDT envelope-from flowers@nekulturny.org) Received: (from flowers@localhost) by procyon.nekulturny.org (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i9U6md1P001440; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 00:48:39 -0600 (MDT envelope-from flowers) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 00:48:38 -0600 From: Danny MacMillan In-reply-to: <20041030053323.870E543D49@mx1.FreeBSD.org> To: Clay Message-id: <20041030064838.GA1323@procyon.nekulturny.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline References: <1099113697.18749.329.camel@aaron.proficuous.com> <20041030053323.870E543D49@mx1.FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: "'Aaron P. Martinez'" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache 2.0.52 help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 06:49:37 -0000 On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 11:33:12PM -0600, Clay wrote: > It is not a DSL Router/Modem, just a straight old school ADSL > modem. I have three static IP addresses. One is being used for the > current web server, one is on the machine I am typing this on, and > the third is being used for this server for testing. You know, one thing that occurs to me is: are you obtaining your IP addresses from (your ISP's) DHCP server? If not, are you sure you are giving your new FreeBSD web server the right address? If the address you are using is incorrect, it's quite possible that the machine you are (successfully) pinging isn't the FreeBSD machine, just another unrelated host that responds to ping, as most hosts do, but doesn't have a web server running. If your machines are connected to the ADSL modem via a switch (which is how it sounds like you have things set up), the FreeBSD web server would still see and respond to the traffic addressed to its (incorrect) IP from your two other machines. I can think of two ways to test this: One, ping the host from the external non-working machine and monitor the FreeBSD machine to see if it is being pinged. I'm sure there's a way to do that, I just don't know what it is :) The other is to temporarily switch IP addresses with one of your other known working machines and see if you can access the web server via that address. -- Danny From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 07:05:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6764B16A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 07:05:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16C7F43D53 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 07:05:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gredman@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 79so9453rnk for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 00:05:24 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=g8nzPS4w2tj/kUh/LrDZ/Icx/Z7lD11QS5XB2YrOwvf2jMma2yomvABL2TtglTlB5fdiE0N2vJtiu2GWZuZhwaFiG3WGGaukVdOXEBirTUOGoMfYEna072AcX1NTL0tNGJa0jPhuLgli3IQTpQYURGTaQku2UHqd5QGNOok+mCk= Received: by 10.38.15.48 with SMTP id 48mr95622rno; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 00:05:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.209.56 with HTTP; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 00:05:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 20:05:24 +1300 From: Gareth Redman To: Subhro In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <184b087c04102915102f55e759@mail.gmail.com> cc: Chen Xu cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.3-stable -- all CPU usage show 0% X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gareth Redman List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 07:05:25 -0000 On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 11:06:09 +0530, Subhro wrote: > On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:10:21 -0400, Chen Xu wrote: > > I am running 5.3-stable. since 5.3RC1, my CPU status from `top` show > > all zeros, like this. Can anyone tell me what is wrong? > > What makes you feel that something is wrong? If the processes are not > using the processor I would be pretty hapy about it . Getting > back to the point, processes on *nix boxes do not consume processor > like the Wind0ze family of OSses. SO its perfectly normal what u see. > I don't think it is normal, as even the idle state is at 0.00%. I would make sure that base is in sync with the kernel, as documented in . -- Gareth Redman From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 07:20:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C900816A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 07:20:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.proficuous.com (www.proficuous.com [209.240.79.128]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D85243D5E for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 07:20:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ml@proficuous.com) Received: from [192.168.3.69] (aaron-workstation.proficuous.com [192.168.3.69]) by mail.proficuous.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE4EBA894B8 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 02:20:04 -0500 (CDT) From: "Aaron P. Martinez" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1099120840.18749.457.camel@aaron.proficuous.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 (1.4.6-2) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 02:20:40 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: cvsup....base and prefix??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 07:20:06 -0000 I have successfully used cvsup a few times now...and i am comfortable with what the base and the prefix do. My question is why would someone put things in different locations than for instance........./usr for both base and/or prefix? I have seen a few different options used both in the cvs up faq on the cvsup homepage, the handbook and also in "the complete freebsd" they all have different places listed..but not one single place is any discussion about the theory or logic behind where it is placed. This is really just a "help me understand the philosophy" question as it seems that no matter where i place my 'base' and 'prefix' paths..the cvsup will work...just trying to get a grasp on _why_ i would want it one place more than another. Thanks in advance, Aaron From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 08:58:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53A8016A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 08:58:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E90AB43D3F for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 08:58:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) i9U8wIi7062723 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 30 Oct 2004 09:58:18 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)i9U8wIZq062722; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 09:58:18 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 09:58:18 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: Bill Schoolcraft Message-ID: <20041030085818.GA61940@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , Bill Schoolcraft , Volker Eckert , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20041029125759.26932.qmail@web52501.mail.yahoo.com> <20041029191818.GA1199@conde.cs.tu-berlin.de> <20041029125553.B37394@bsd.billschoolcraft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041029125553.B37394@bsd.billschoolcraft.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.5.6 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sat, 30 Oct 2004 09:58:18 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040904, clamav-milter version 0.75l on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Volker Eckert Subject: Re: 5.2.1, installed Mozilla -- X reverses background colors when used!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 08:58:27 -0000 --nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 12:59:52PM -0700, Bill Schoolcraft wrote: > At Fri, 29 Oct 2004 it looks like Volker Eckert composed: >=20 > > On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 05:57:59AM -0700, Bill Schoolcraft wrote: > > > ... > > > I have run 5.2.1 successfully on many machines and X is actually > > > working fine except when I use Mozilla as installed from ports. > > > > > > The whole background turns into a "negative" and so does the Mozilla > > > browser. All returns to normal once I exit Mozilla. > > > ... > > > > since nobody else replied... my 2 cents: > > maybe your X is running with too few colours? is it changing the > > colours when you change the focus? >=20 > Thanks for your reply, >=20 > What happens is "all is fine" with Opera, and Konqueror web > browsers but once I start Mozilla, all hell breaks loose... >=20 > It's like looking at a negative of a picture, whites turn black > and the reversal of all colors, I can't describe to you the color > changes for I was never aware of how much whole desktop can > change. >=20 > I mean EVERYTHING including the toolbars etc. >=20 > I may go and install 4.10 and see what happens. 4.10 failed to > install when the installation kernel hit the parallel port... > Install/Kernel just wedged shut. This sounds to me as if you're simply using a display which isn't running at least 24bit colour depth. All that's happening is that Mozilla is installing its own colour map in the X server -- so when you move your mouse pointer into or out of the Mozilla window, your whole display switches from the default colour map to the Mozilla colour map or back again. ie. it's not a bug. It's a feature of your graphics setup. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBg1eqiD657aJF7eIRAhd4AJ9iuruPi2Rt+CIHocBYCx1dKt5n1ACfTOwH 2/M8D+0AFfM766UJ2D1HVLs= =axI9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 10:17:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12CB016A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 10:17:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from allrounder.lame.at (mail.softlink.at [195.58.166.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C488A43D53 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 10:17:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from haimat@lame.at) Received: from itchy (home.lame.at [80.78.254.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by allrounder.lame.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65A9E2FE87 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 12:16:31 +0200 (CEST) From: "Matthias F. Brandstetter" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 12:17:05 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <200410292355.43148.haimat@lame.at> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410301217.05727.haimat@lame.at> Subject: Re: howto software raid under FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 10:17:09 -0000 ---------- quoting Subhro ---------- > Buddy, software RAIDs had always been a pain in the neck. they simply > are not worth it as the kernel is busy babysitting the RAID and other > applications suffer. Also in case of software RAID failures, it is a > nightmare. I do not think so. I never ever had any diffuiculties or hatches with software raids on Linux systems. I use them for several years in several machines now, w/o any errors. AND: it's damn easy on Linux to create the array, hotadd a new disk and so on... greets, Matthias -- Homer/Apu/Moe: You can do it, Otto! You can do it, Otto! Apu: Make this spare, I'll give you free gelato! Moe: Then go back to my place where I will get you blotto! Homer: Domo arigato, Mister Roboto! Team Homer From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 10:18:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95B0516A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 10:18:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from allrounder.lame.at (mail.lame.at [195.58.166.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 564DC43D2D for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 10:18:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from haimat@lame.at) Received: from itchy (home.lame.at [80.78.254.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by allrounder.lame.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5027B2FE87 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 12:17:54 +0200 (CEST) From: "Matthias F. Brandstetter" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 12:18:28 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <200410292355.43148.haimat@lame.at> <200410300228.17211.Emanuel.Strobl@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <200410300228.17211.Emanuel.Strobl@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410301218.28952.haimat@lame.at> Subject: Re: howto software raid under FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 10:18:31 -0000 ---------- quoting Emanuel Strobl ---------- > Why not, but you also have gmirror and ataraid, the former only on 5.3. > For ataraid you can use 'atacontrol create RAID1 ad4 ad6' for example > For gmirror you can use 'gmirror label -v -b split -s 2048 mrr ad4 ad6' > And you mentioned vinum and ccd already. why: because ccd seems not very good when it comes to replace a disk... and ad ataraid and gmirror: where do I find docs about them on internet? greets, Matthias -- Flanders: They're not perfect, but the Lord says love they neighbor -- Homer: Shut up, Flanders. Flanders: Okely-dokely-do. Hurricane Neddy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 10:42:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0034A16A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 10:42:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (ns0.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 970E343D1D for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 10:42:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1])i9UAgeKG003455 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 30 Oct 2004 11:42:41 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)i9UAgeKV003454; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 11:42:40 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 11:42:40 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: Steel City Phantom Message-ID: <20041030104240.GB61940@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , Steel City Phantom , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4183067C.8090102@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8GpibOaaTibBMecb" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4183067C.8090102@yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.5.6 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sat, 30 Oct 2004 11:42:41 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040904, clamav-milter version 0.75l on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: running php4 and php5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 10:42:54 -0000 --8GpibOaaTibBMecb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 11:11:56PM -0400, Steel City Phantom wrote: > i need to configure both on my bsd machine. i found a few pages on the= =20 > web that had some general instructions on how to do it, but i was hoping= =20 > someone here could tell me how to do it using the ports collection. > http://wiki.coggeshall.org/37.html looked promising, but i wanted to see= =20 > what you guys thought first >=20 > one requirement that i have is i need to run pretty much all the php=20 > extentions for both of them. so if i run php4-extensions and=20 > php5-extension, what am i going to screw up? Yes -- you won't be able to run both mod_php4 and mod_php5 in the same instance of apache. Also you'll have to fiddle around with $PREFIX in order to get both sets of ports installed at the same time. Probably your best bet is to set up a jail(8) to run one of the apache instances in. You can use mod_proxy to make the content of the second server appear as part of the first one if you need to. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --8GpibOaaTibBMecb Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBg3AgiD657aJF7eIRAvCIAJsFoWdDJouIgtPbckOIUf2VM37/bgCfbkVJ T4cwh3REqCH/d9oILpqu+MQ= =e0El -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --8GpibOaaTibBMecb-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 11:52:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6804D16A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 11:52:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fep1.cogeco.net (smtp.cogeco.net [216.221.81.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C24F43D41 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 11:52:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bbobowski@cogeco.ca) Received: from [24.150.215.98] (d150-215-98.home.cgocable.net [24.150.215.98]) by fep1.cogeco.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE10E8260; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 07:52:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <41838096.2080902@cogeco.ca> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 07:52:54 -0400 From: Brian Bobowski User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040626 Thunderbird/0.7.1 Mnenhy/0.6.0.104 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en To: Kris Kennaway References: <1099096228.18749.149.camel@aaron.proficuous.com> <20041030003606.GA60037@xor.obsecurity.org> In-Reply-To: <20041030003606.GA60037@xor.obsecurity.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: FreeBSD User Questions List Subject: Re: make buildworld.........24 hours???? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 11:52:50 -0000 Kris Kennaway wrote: That's not unreasonable - the performance killer will be your lack of memory, which means that you'll be swapping a lot while compiling. Kris One thing I have to wonder - how compatible is 'make buildworld' with multiple build processes(e.g. 'make -j4 buildworld')? I know some makefiles don't get along well with the -j parameter, but if buildworld is okay with it, this may offer a way to keep the processor busy rather than waiting for disk access all the time, which could make things faster, especially on such low-memory machines. -BB From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 12:11:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5CB116A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 12:11:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6881943D2F for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 12:11:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-160-246-51.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.160.246.51]) by pi.codefab.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i9UCBKqn093961 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 30 Oct 2004 08:11:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <418384E9.8010601@mac.com> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 08:11:21 -0400 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian Bobowski References: <1099096228.18749.149.camel@aaron.proficuous.com> <20041030003606.GA60037@xor.obsecurity.org> <41838096.2080902@cogeco.ca> In-Reply-To: <41838096.2080902@cogeco.ca> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.9 required=5.5 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on pi.codefab.com cc: FreeBSD User Questions List Subject: Re: make buildworld.........24 hours???? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 12:11:30 -0000 Brian Bobowski wrote: [ ... ] > One thing I have to wonder - how compatible is 'make buildworld' with > multiple build processes(e.g. 'make -j4 buildworld')? I know some > makefiles don't get along well with the -j parameter, but if > buildworld is okay with it, this may offer a way to keep the processor > busy rather than waiting for disk access all the time, which could > make things faster, especially on such low-memory machines. Using -j is recommended only when you have lots of memory and can keep all of the processes resident in memory. Trying to run a parallel build on a low-memory machine is almost certainly going to be much slower, since you are going to swap more, not less. Time it for yourself and see... -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 12:17:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F012916A4CF for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 12:17:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fep2.cogeco.net (smtp.cogeco.net [216.221.81.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCA9A43D41 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 12:17:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bbobowski@cogeco.ca) Received: from [24.150.215.98] (d150-215-98.home.cgocable.net [24.150.215.98]) by fep2.cogeco.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20DE74EB4; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 08:17:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4183864E.30500@cogeco.ca> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 08:17:18 -0400 From: Brian Bobowski User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040626 Thunderbird/0.7.1 Mnenhy/0.6.0.104 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Swiger References: <1099096228.18749.149.camel@aaron.proficuous.com> <20041030003606.GA60037@xor.obsecurity.org> <41838096.2080902@cogeco.ca> <418384E9.8010601@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <418384E9.8010601@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD User Questions List Subject: Re: make buildworld.........24 hours???? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 12:17:14 -0000 Chuck Swiger wrote: > Using -j is recommended only when you have lots of memory and can keep > all of the processes resident in memory. Trying to run a parallel > build on a low-memory machine is almost certainly going to be much > slower, since you are going to swap more, not less. > > Time it for yourself and see... > Ah, thanks for the clarification. I'd seen it cited as a way to deal with the delay caused by file access, but I guess it does make sense that it would apply to the actual filesystem rather than swap. -BB From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 12:37:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3008616A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 12:37:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC41443D45 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 12:37:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-160-246-51.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.160.246.51]) by pi.codefab.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i9UCbkH5009594 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 30 Oct 2004 08:37:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <41838B1B.4010108@mac.com> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 08:37:47 -0400 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian Bobowski References: <1099096228.18749.149.camel@aaron.proficuous.com> <20041030003606.GA60037@xor.obsecurity.org> <41838096.2080902@cogeco.ca> <418384E9.8010601@mac.com> <4183864E.30500@cogeco.ca> In-Reply-To: <4183864E.30500@cogeco.ca> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.9 required=5.5 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on pi.codefab.com cc: FreeBSD User Questions List Subject: Re: make buildworld.........24 hours???? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 12:37:53 -0000 Brian Bobowski wrote: > Chuck Swiger wrote: >> Using -j is recommended only when you have lots of memory and can keep >> all of the processes resident in memory. Trying to run a parallel >> build on a low-memory machine is almost certainly going to be much >> slower, since you are going to swap more, not less. [ ... ] > Ah, thanks for the clarification. I'd seen it cited as a way to deal > with the delay caused by file access, but I guess it does make sense > that it would apply to the actual filesystem rather than swap. There's that point, too. FreeBSD will happily cache all of the header files and such in memory if it can, rather than re-reading them from disk all of the time. Adding more memory to this machine will do more for your dollar to improve the performance of the system, then anything else you can do. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 13:07:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CBB616A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 13:07:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from msr75.hinet.net (msr75.hinet.net [168.95.4.175]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D25C043D49 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 13:07:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from y2kbug@ms25.hinet.net) Received: from sonic (61-225-170-98.dynamic.hinet.net [61.225.170.98]) by msr75.hinet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA01434 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 21:07:05 +0800 (CST) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 21:06:31 +0800 From: Robert Storey To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20041030210631.01704afe.y2kbug@ms25.hinet.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.99 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: throttling cpu speed to run cooler X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 13:07:08 -0000 Dear All, I've been looking for a utility to reduce cpu speed to make my laptop run cooler. Ideally, it should reduce cpu speed to about 20% when speed is not needed, and restore speed to 100% when the load requires it. There is such a utility for Linux, called powernowd: http://www.deater.net/john/powernowd.html Using this with Debian, my cpu temperature drops by about 15 degrees Celsius! I'm just wondering if a utility similar to powernowd already exists for FreeBSD? I did search the mailing list archives and found some talk about developing just such a program, but never found out if it was finally done, and what the said package might be called. regards, Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 13:12:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D63516A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 13:12:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from msr31.hinet.net (msr31.hinet.net [168.95.4.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C51143D45 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 13:12:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from y2kbug@ms25.hinet.net) Received: from sonic (61-225-170-98.dynamic.hinet.net [61.225.170.98]) by msr31.hinet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA29080 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 21:12:51 +0800 (CST) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 21:12:19 +0800 From: Robert Storey To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20041030211219.00b2738d.y2kbug@ms25.hinet.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.99 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: swap partition encryption X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 13:12:54 -0000 Dear All, I've succeeded in creating an encrypted partition using gbde. I followed the directions in the FBSD Handbook which, among other things, states: Unlike cumbersome encryption methods that encrypt only individual files, gbde transparently encrypts entire file systems. No cleartext ever touches the hard drive's platter. But I wonder if that last sentence is true. What about the swap partition? Is it simply bypassed, or does one need to do something to create an encrypted swap partition? regards, Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 13:15:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFF4216A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 13:15:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nic.ach.sch.gr (nic.sch.gr [194.63.238.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07D6943D31 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 13:15:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (qmail 16654 invoked by uid 207); 30 Oct 2004 13:15:16 -0000 Received: from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr by nic by uid 201 with qmail-scanner-1.21 (sophie: 3.04/2.19/3.81. Clear:RC:1(81.186.70.190):. Processed in 0.835475 secs); 30 Oct 2004 13:15:16 -0000 Received: from dialup190.ach.sch.gr (HELO gothmog.gr) ([81.186.70.190]) (envelope-sender ) by nic.sch.gr (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 30 Oct 2004 13:15:14 -0000 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i9UDFCgW041567; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 16:15:12 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id i9UDFCS8041566; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 16:15:12 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 16:15:12 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Brad Waite Message-ID: <20041030131511.GB41290@gothmog.gr> References: <2614.67.165.234.240.1099073745.squirrel@webmail.wcubed.net> <20041029183742.GB76157@dan.emsphone.com> <20041029202605.GC1046@gothmog.gr> <3019.67.165.234.240.1099114217.squirrel@webmail.wcubed.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3019.67.165.234.240.1099114217.squirrel@webmail.wcubed.net> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Building part of world X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 13:15:22 -0000 On 2004-10-29 23:30, Brad Waite wrote: > > Brave people might even get away by building the sk module only, by > > emulating the specific part of the kernel build: > > > > # cd /usr/src/sys/modules/sk > > # env MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/tmp/sk \ > > KMODDIR=/boot/kernel DEBUG_FLAGS="-g" MACHINE=i386 \ > > KERNBUILDDIR="/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL" make obj > > # env MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/tmp/sk \ > > KMODDIR=/boot/kernel DEBUG_FLAGS="-g" MACHINE=i386 \ > > KERNBUILDDIR="/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL" make all > > > > If all this works, you can just kldload the new if_sk.ko from > > `/tmp/sk/usr/src/sys/modules/sk' to test your changes. > > Wow, Giorgos, this really *does* help. It never dawned on me that FBSD > even supported loadable kernel modules. Feel kinda sheepish now, but hey, > I guess you learn something new every day. > > In my stumbling around since you've enlightened me, I noticed a sk/ dir in > /usr/src/sys/modules, and in there a Makefile. 'make install' apparently > builds the .ko and installs it into /modules. > > Am I missing something here, or is this the way to go? No, you're not missing anything. I used the environment variables to keep the /usr/src tree as clean as possible, but what you describe works too :-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 13:15:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1488D16A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 13:15:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from srvdmz13.oekb.co.at (srvdmz13.oekb.co.at [143.245.5.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C5D743D49 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 13:15:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Ewald.Jenisch@oekb.at) Received: from Unknown [143.245.2.191] by srvdmz13.oekb.co.at - SurfControl E-mail Filter (4.7); Sat, 30 Oct 2004 15:15:28 +0200 Received: from athena.oekb.co.at ([143.245.83.20]) by MAIL01.oekb.co.at with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Sat, 30 Oct 2004 15:15:28 +0200 Received: from athena.oekb.co.at (athena.oekb.co.at [127.0.0.1]) by athena.oekb.co.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9UDFbwo009436; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 15:15:37 +0200 Received: (from ej@localhost) by athena.oekb.co.at (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i9UDFbah009435; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 15:15:37 +0200 Message-ID: <20041030131537.GA7100@athena.oekb.co.at> From: Ewald Jenisch To: jason Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 15:15:37 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Oct 2004 13:15:28.0198 (UTC) FILETIME=[86554E60:01C4BE82] References: <20041029140840.GA5085@athena.oekb.co.at> <4182C593.9090808@ec.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <4182C593.9090808@ec.rr.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Accessing partitions using FIXIT/Live-System-CDROM? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 13:15:32 -0000 On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 06:34:59PM -0400, jason wrote: > > > Search the current archives for a new feature with atacontrol, I think > its in this program. It will scan a disk and recover any data it can. > Sounds like what you need. Hi Jason, Thanks much for the hint! Unfortunately my data is on a SCSI disk. Nevertheless I found the solution myself in the meantime: The reason I couldn't mount the partitions, even after generating device nodes for them (like ad0s1e,...) was that I didn't do a fsck first. The solution came to me after I discovered that I could mount the partitions readonly, but not r/w. So I fsck-ed them, with fsck fixing some things then I could mount the partitions. Thanks neverthelss for the hint with atacontrol - I'll keep in in my records since you never know when disaster strikes again... Cheers, -ewald From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 13:49:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CC2516A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 13:49:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C6A143D39 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 13:49:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) i9UDn0nB036131 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 30 Oct 2004 14:49:00 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)i9UDn0wP036130; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 14:49:00 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 14:49:00 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: Robert Storey Message-ID: <20041030134900.GA36049@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , Robert Storey , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20041030210631.01704afe.y2kbug@ms25.hinet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="pWyiEgJYm5f9v55/" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041030210631.01704afe.y2kbug@ms25.hinet.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.5.6 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sat, 30 Oct 2004 14:49:00 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040904, clamav-milter version 0.75l on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: throttling cpu speed to run cooler X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 13:49:07 -0000 --pWyiEgJYm5f9v55/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Oct 30, 2004 at 09:06:31PM +0800, Robert Storey wrote: > I've been looking for a utility to reduce cpu speed to make my laptop > run cooler. Ideally, it should reduce cpu speed to about 20% when speed > is not needed, and restore speed to 100% when the load requires it. http://www.daemonology.net/freebsd-est/ Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --pWyiEgJYm5f9v55/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBg5vMiD657aJF7eIRArF0AJ93rrOmtAy+T7MS7xogTZla9vHzGwCfWqMs Kd12WQZp+pT8LWZa25svMmc= =luZX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --pWyiEgJYm5f9v55/-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 14:32:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A10F316A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 14:32:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from srvdmz13.oekb.co.at (srvdmz13.oekb.co.at [143.245.5.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BBB143D3F for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 14:32:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Ewald.Jenisch@oekb.at) Received: from Unknown [143.245.2.191] by srvdmz13.oekb.co.at - SurfControl E-mail Filter (4.7); Sat, 30 Oct 2004 16:32:08 +0200 Received: from athena.oekb.co.at ([143.245.83.20]) by MAIL01.oekb.co.at with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Sat, 30 Oct 2004 16:32:07 +0200 Received: from athena.oekb.co.at (athena.oekb.co.at [127.0.0.1]) by athena.oekb.co.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9UEWHwo009927 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 16:32:17 +0200 Received: (from ej@localhost) by athena.oekb.co.at (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i9UEWHFw009926 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 16:32:17 +0200 Message-ID: <20041030143217.GA9742@athena.oekb.co.at> From: Ewald Jenisch To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 16:32:17 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Oct 2004 14:32:07.0495 (UTC) FILETIME=[3BBA5570:01C4BE8D] User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: SMP with hyperthreading CPU (5.3)? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 14:32:11 -0000 Hi, I've got a 3GHz P4 system with hyperthreading enabled in the BIOS. For this system I've built a SMP-kernel (kernel config-file "SMP" that comes with 5.3). However SMP doesn't seem to be enabled - at least I don't seen the usual messages like "CPU ... launched" that's common with SMP configurations. The only thing I'm seeing are the following entries during boot: CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz (2992.71-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf34 Stepping = 4 Features=0xbfebfbff Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs Neither does "top" show anything about a second (logical) cpu being active, nor does ps. So do I have two logical CPUs active on this system? If not - what should I do besides enabling "SMP" in the kernel config file (sure enough "cpu I386_CPU" which effectively disables SMP is commented out) Thanks much in advance for any hints, -ewald From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 14:35:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF2B516A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 14:35:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from x.ja6.com (x.ja6.com [64.239.13.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3701443D1D for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 14:35:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jkadams@computer.org) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (adsl-4-119-123.cae.bellsouth.net [65.4.119.123]) (authenticated bits=0) by x.ja6.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i9UEZ5wS006335 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 10:35:05 -0400 Message-ID: <418CE152.8070105@computer.org> Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2004 09:36:02 -0500 From: Jon Adams User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: notspam (whitelisted), spamassassin (score=-102.301, required 5, BAYES_00, DATE_IN_FUTURE_96_XX, USER_IN_WHITELIST) Subject: Oracle 8i on FreeBSD 5.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 14:35:10 -0000 I am installing Oracle 8i (8.1.7) on FreeBSD 5.1 I am following this doc: http://iamphet.nm.ru/misc/linuxemu-oracle8i.html I get as far as the linking of Oracle 8i, when I am prompted with errors in linking $ORACLE_HOME/precomp/lib/ins_precomp.mk I know that this means I need the Glibc 2.1.3 stubs patch from Oracle (seen before on Linux) when I try to run the setup_stubs.sh script, I get the following bash-2.04$ ./setup_stubs.sh Setting up patch files...done. Patching makefiles as necessary: checking file '/ora/app/rdbms/demo/demo_rdbms.mk'...OK. checking file '/ora/app/rdbms/demo/ociucb.mk'...OK. checking file '/ora/app/rdbms/lib/ins_rdbms.mk'...OK. checking file '/ora/app/rdbms/lib/env_rdbms.mk'...OK. checking file '/ora/app/network/lib/ins_net_client.mk'...OK. checking file '/ora/app/network/lib/env_network.mk'...OK. checking file '/ora/app/network/lib/ins_cman.mk'...OK. checking file '/ora/app/network/lib/ins_names.mk'...OK. checking file '/ora/app/network/lib/ins_oemagent.mk'...OK. checking file '/ora/app/network/lib/env_oemagent.mk'...OK. checking file '/ora/app/network/lib/ins_net_server.mk'...OK. checking file '/ora/app/network/lib/ins_nau.mk'...OK. checking file '/ora/app/plsql/lib/env_plsql.mk'...OK. checking file '/ora/app/plsql/lib/ins_plsql.mk'...OK. checking file '/ora/app/plsql/demo/demo_plsql.mk'...OK. checking file '/ora/app/precomp/lib/ins_precomp.mk'...OK. checking file '/ora/app/precomp/lib/env_precomp.mk'...OK. checking file '/ora/app/ldap/lib/env_ldap.mk'...OK. checking file '/ora/app/ldap/lib/ins_ldap.mk'...OK. checking file '/ora/app/ldap/demo/demo_ldap.mk'...OK. checking file '/ora/app/sqlplus/lib/env_sqlplus.mk'...OK. checking file '/ora/app/sqlplus/lib/ins_sqlplus.mk'...OK. checking file '/ora/app/ord/im/lib/env_ordim.mk'...OK. checking file '/ora/app/ord/img/demo/demo_ordimg.mk'...OK. checking file '/ora/app/otrace/demo/atmoci.mk'...OK. checking file '/ora/app/otrace/lib/env_otrace.mk'...OK. checking file '/ora/app/otrace/lib/ins_otrace.mk'...OK. Rebuilding client shared library...ld: cannot find -ldl Now I know -ldl is for the dlopen function in Linux, which are in a different place than in FreeBSD, my question to you all is, how do I patch these scripts to get around this. I took out the -ldl in the lib/sysliblist file, but then I get a similar error about -lpthread Rebuilding client shared library...ld: cannot find -lpthread I replaced -lpthread with -lc_r then the -ldl error came back, then I retried the gui building ins_precomp.mk, stil doesnt work, I know that I probably need to get rid of all -ldl references, but when I tried that, I got alot of undefined references, so should I replace them with something? Is there a way I can install ldl under freebsd to "fool" it into working? HELP!!! Thanks in advance... BTW: please do not tell me to try Oracle 9i, or that I should use another version of FreeBSD, or something like that, I am locked in this hardware and OS, so I need to get it to work with the current setup as much as possible. --J after some reading, I replaced it with -lc_r but then I get undefined references to __bzero... and dozens of other calls I am g -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 15:25:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49E8616A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 15:25:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B667E43D1F for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 15:25:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from garya@Dreamchaser.org) Received: from [12.32.36.74] (imagination.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.74]) i9UFPgBM036981 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 09:25:42 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from garya@Dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <4183B27D.4040505@Dreamchaser.org> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 09:25:49 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (X11/20041030) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.5.3 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.73]); Sat, 30 Oct 2004 09:25:42 -0600 (MDT) Subject: oops... sysinstall from X X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 15:25:44 -0000 I made the mistake of trying to build and install the gimp port from an xterm. When I came back to it, it had started sysinstall to configure the ghostscript driver. Sysinstall looks great in an xterm, but unfortunately keystrokes aren't mapped in a manner which works. e.g. The down arrow is echoed as "^[0B", and while normal characters such as 'x' and space are echoed properly, the sysinstall program apparently isn't seeing them -- the characters are simply echoed over (replacing) the text sysinstall has painted on the display, instead of "doing the right thing" such as selecting / deselecting the current item. Is there some simple way out of this? I've still got the xterm up and would like to finish this install. Or should I just kill it, exit X, and try make from a normal vty? Thanks for any insights, Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 15:40:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68AD916A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 15:40:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-m14.mx.aol.com (imo-m14.mx.aol.com [64.12.138.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CBD143D1F for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 15:40:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from TM4525@aol.com) Received: from TM4525@aol.com by imo-m14.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id s.1a2.2b2d9ced (4254); Sat, 30 Oct 2004 11:40:37 -0400 (EDT) From: TM4525@aol.com Message-ID: <1a2.2b2d9ced.2eb50ff4@aol.com> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 11:40:36 EDT To: tedm@toybox.placo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5114 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GPL vs BSD Licence X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 15:40:49 -0000 >> Again, the reality is that none of this (the existence of some >> products that >> exist as binary modules) harm the community. They offer choices for users, >> and the more choices the better. What a horrible place the world would be >> without TiVo (who never would have done the work if they couldn't >> protect it) > >Yah, people might actually have to READ a book instead of watching the >TV. What horrors!! >Ted > Or watch Meet the Press, and actually HEAR what your leaders say with context, instead of relying on whatever the media wants you to hear, or what fits an author's private agenda. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 15:51:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68D0316A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 15:51:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web51305.mail.yahoo.com (web51305.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.171]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2A10B43D1D for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 15:51:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gooober33-freebsd@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20041030155120.53893.qmail@web51305.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.23.59.188] by web51305.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 08:51:20 PDT Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 08:51:20 -0700 (PDT) From: BSDjunkie To: Maxim V Tretjyakov , FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: <907541606.20041030175102@dom-sp.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: TFTPD timeout X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: gooober33-freebsd@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 15:51:21 -0000 --- Maxim V Tretjyakov wrote: > Hello freebsd-stable, > > I've got a problem with tftpd - when somebody wants > to get file this > fails with timeout messages. > load# tftp localhost > tftp> get pxeboot > Transfer timed out. If you are using a xdsl connection, or if you are behind a firewall then you need to use passive ftp. man .netrc See if this helps... Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 15:57:17 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72B2716A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 15:57:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wiliweld.com (adsl-63-204-157-14.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.204.157.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4845443D39 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 15:57:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bill@wiliweld.com) Received: from bsd.billschoolcraft.com (unknown [192.168.1.11]) by wiliweld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6C63438B9; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 08:57:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 08:57:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Schoolcraft X-X-Sender: bill@bsd.billschoolcraft.com To: Matthew Seaman In-Reply-To: <20041030085818.GA61940@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Message-ID: <20041030085201.T40376@bsd.billschoolcraft.com> References: <20041029125759.26932.qmail@web52501.mail.yahoo.com> <20041029125553.B37394@bsd.billschoolcraft.com> <20041030085818.GA61940@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> System-ID: [en] (I; FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE #0 x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: Bill Schoolcraft cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Volker Eckert Subject: Re: 5.2.1, installed Mozilla -- X reverses background colors when used!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 15:57:17 -0000 At Sat, 30 Oct 2004 it looks like Matthew Seaman composed: > This sounds to me as if you're simply using a display which isn't > running at least 24bit colour depth. All that's happening is that > Mozilla is installing its own colour map in the X server -- so when > you move your mouse pointer into or out of the Mozilla window, your > whole display switches from the default colour map to the Mozilla > colour map or back again. ie. it's not a bug. It's a feature of > your graphics setup. > > Cheers, > > Matthew Thanks Matthew, I will go in and do some edits to my XF86Config file after backing it up. (question) It's an integrated SiS, 32mb video chipset and I was also wondering the command that best works like "lspci -v" on other Unix variants. I wanted to get a more accurate output if the video cards attributes as the FreeBSD operating sees it. I did also try Netscape7 and it did the same thing. Only two current browser perform normally without any changes and those are: Opera and Konqueror Thanks. -- Bill Schoolcraft | Life's journey is not to arrive at the PO Box 210076 | grave safely in a well preserved body, San Francisco,CA 94121 | but rather to skid in sideways, totally http://billschoolcraft.com | spent, yelling "holy shit, what a ride!" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 16:04:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 315CF16A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 16:04:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (ns0.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE50E43D4C for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 16:04:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1])i9UG4IaR037367 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 30 Oct 2004 17:04:18 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)i9UG4ISP037366; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 17:04:18 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 17:04:18 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: Gary Aitken Message-ID: <20041030160418.GA37276@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , Gary Aitken , questions@freebsd.org References: <4183B27D.4040505@Dreamchaser.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4183B27D.4040505@Dreamchaser.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.5.6 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sat, 30 Oct 2004 17:04:18 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040904, clamav-milter version 0.75l on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: oops... sysinstall from X X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 16:04:28 -0000 --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Oct 30, 2004 at 09:25:49AM -0600, Gary Aitken wrote: > I made the mistake of trying to build and install the gimp port from an > xterm. When I came back to it, it had started sysinstall to configure > the ghostscript driver. Sysinstall looks great in an xterm, but > unfortunately keystrokes aren't mapped in a manner which works. e.g. > The down arrow is echoed as "^[0B", and while normal characters such as > 'x' and space are echoed properly, the sysinstall program apparently > isn't seeing them -- the characters are simply echoed over (replacing) > the text sysinstall has painted on the display, instead of "doing the > right thing" such as selecting / deselecting the current item. >=20 > Is there some simple way out of this? > I've still got the xterm up and would like to finish this install. > Or should I just kill it, exit X, and try make from a normal vty? That's not sysinstall -- it just uses the same SLANG libraries as sysinstall does. Even in an X-term, the navigation should work with the arrow keys, but failing that, hitting tab should let you cycle through all of the options. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBg7uCiD657aJF7eIRAhPfAJwJzFPJyypWCU0THQ49+gSlaAS3rACeLgI4 n/sXeTof9OPaaTB+jZ+DAM4= =cHy0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 16:49:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D78816A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 16:49:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB55443D49 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 16:49:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from garya@Dreamchaser.org) Received: from [12.32.36.74] (imagination.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.74]) i9UGnsK0037153 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 10:49:54 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from garya@Dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <4183C639.1000406@Dreamchaser.org> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 10:50:01 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (X11/20041030) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.5.3 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.73]); Sat, 30 Oct 2004 10:49:54 -0600 (MDT) Subject: xhost problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 16:49:55 -0000 I can't get an xterm from another machine to display on my 5.3 system. I've tried xhost with the ip of the machine I want to allow in, and finally tried xhost + to allow any machine in, but attempts to display still fail with "Can't open display w.x.y.z:0.0" firewall_enable and ipfilter_enable are NO at the moment, and the source (xterm) system is open on the internal network. What am I missing? Thanks, Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 16:49:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 285FC16A4D8 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 16:49:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3E3143D5E for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 16:49:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xuchen66@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 74so25519rnk for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 09:49:55 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=PNDDdqH9zx+8Pb6e8Px603IrNKUMReajr+vqYaoiQyUFhcvb9KBGw7EEg7FnivZP6afyx1/4tANiO2wBf5iFiX1kccnUPdhJggyDmkVsiKOFklNsrWyOYFztb6qTQH2ded7dn7Bwbv5BRXO84kL0rTF+D1+IwwW3EH8jZUcoIbk= Received: by 10.38.92.63 with SMTP id p63mr284045rnb; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 09:49:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.125.77 with HTTP; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 09:49:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <184b087c041030094972d90687@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 12:49:55 -0400 From: Chen Xu To: Gareth Redman In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <184b087c04102915102f55e759@mail.gmail.com> cc: Subhro cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.3-stable -- all CPU usage show 0% X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Chen Xu List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 16:49:58 -0000 I played with disable the acpi. And only after I deinstall the apache2, my top shows normal output. I don't have a clue why. Regards, Chen On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 20:05:24 +1300, Gareth Redman \ > > I don't think it is normal, as even the idle state is at 0.00%. I > would make sure that base is in sync with the kernel, as documented in > . > > -- > Gareth Redman > -- Chen Xu xuchen66@gmail.com xuchen@bsdmail.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 16:54:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B37616A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 16:54:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D34F43D2F for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 16:54:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from garya@Dreamchaser.org) Received: from [12.32.36.74] (imagination.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.74]) i9UGsZhw037169; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 10:54:36 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from garya@Dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <4183C753.9050702@Dreamchaser.org> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 10:54:43 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (X11/20041030) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Seaman References: <4183B27D.4040505@Dreamchaser.org> <20041030160418.GA37276@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20041030160418.GA37276@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.5.3 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.73]); Sat, 30 Oct 2004 10:54:36 -0600 (MDT) cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: oops... sysinstall from X X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 16:54:37 -0000 Already tried tabbing, but it doesn't work; it just tabs off the end of the line. Out past the confines of the config painted window, to the edge of the xterm window. Any other ideas? Thanks, Gary Matthew Seaman wrote: > On Sat, Oct 30, 2004 at 09:25:49AM -0600, Gary Aitken wrote: > >>I made the mistake of trying to build and install the gimp port from an >>xterm. When I came back to it, it had started sysinstall to configure >>the ghostscript driver. Sysinstall looks great in an xterm, but >>unfortunately keystrokes aren't mapped in a manner which works. e.g. >>The down arrow is echoed as "^[0B", and while normal characters such as >>'x' and space are echoed properly, the sysinstall program apparently >>isn't seeing them -- the characters are simply echoed over (replacing) >>the text sysinstall has painted on the display, instead of "doing the >>right thing" such as selecting / deselecting the current item. >> >>Is there some simple way out of this? >>I've still got the xterm up and would like to finish this install. >>Or should I just kill it, exit X, and try make from a normal vty? > > > That's not sysinstall -- it just uses the same SLANG libraries as > sysinstall does. Even in an X-term, the navigation should work with > the arrow keys, but failing that, hitting tab should let you cycle > through all of the options. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 17:17:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2B9C16A4F1 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 17:17:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5700B43D39 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 17:17:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from garya@Dreamchaser.org) Received: from [12.32.36.74] (imagination.dreamchaser.org. [12.32.36.74]) i9UHHn7l037197; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 11:17:50 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from garya@Dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <4183CCC4.5000201@Dreamchaser.org> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 11:17:56 -0600 From: Gary Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (X11/20041030) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Seaman References: <4183B27D.4040505@Dreamchaser.org> <20041030160418.GA37276@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> <4183C753.9050702@Dreamchaser.org> In-Reply-To: <4183C753.9050702@Dreamchaser.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.5.3 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [12.32.36.73]); Sat, 30 Oct 2004 11:17:53 -0600 (MDT) cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: oops... sysinstall from X X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 17:17:58 -0000 Ahhh. Figured out what it was. I had run the make and piped it into tee to have a hard copy of the log. Apparently something about the pipe screws up the input. The log is full of vty escape sequences, obviously from the screen painting. Seems like this is a bug of sorts. Not sure the screen painting should go to the log, and the keyboard problem is obviously a problem. Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 17:30:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A8B316A4D1 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 17:30:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (ns0.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FCB643D1F for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 17:30:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1])i9UHUZDd030089 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 30 Oct 2004 18:30:35 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)i9UHUYmV029996; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 18:30:34 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 18:30:34 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: Bill Schoolcraft Message-ID: <20041030173034.GA97779@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , Bill Schoolcraft , Bill Schoolcraft , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Volker Eckert References: <20041029125759.26932.qmail@web52501.mail.yahoo.com> <20041029191818.GA1199@conde.cs.tu-berlin.de> <20041029125553.B37394@bsd.billschoolcraft.com> <20041030085818.GA61940@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> <20041030085201.T40376@bsd.billschoolcraft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="M9NhX3UHpAaciwkO" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041030085201.T40376@bsd.billschoolcraft.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.5.6 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sat, 30 Oct 2004 18:30:35 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040904, clamav-milter version 0.75l on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk cc: Bill Schoolcraft cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Volker Eckert Subject: Re: 5.2.1, installed Mozilla -- X reverses background colors when used!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 17:30:47 -0000 --M9NhX3UHpAaciwkO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Oct 30, 2004 at 08:57:12AM -0700, Bill Schoolcraft wrote: =20 > It's an integrated SiS, 32mb video chipset and I was also > wondering the command that best works like "lspci -v" on other Unix > variants. I wanted to get a more accurate output if the video > cards attributes as the FreeBSD operating sees it. xdpyinfo(1) will show you what settings your display is currently using. You can also divine that information, plus stuff like howmuch video RAM the X server thinks you have from the log file -- /var/log/Xorg.0.log or /var/log/XFree86.0.log according to which X implementation you're using. pciconf(1) will tell you what hardware is plugged into your PCI busses -- for best results, run that as: # pciconf -v -l Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --M9NhX3UHpAaciwkO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBg8+6iD657aJF7eIRAojCAJ9iovjwKpUVSY3NAp6xqVZKzslvXQCfZJyf 4bo6HqtkZXWiqVhkyaBRvXA= =+otY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --M9NhX3UHpAaciwkO-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 17:39:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BB3416A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 17:39:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBC9243D53 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 17:39:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) i9UHdYs8077778 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 30 Oct 2004 18:39:35 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)i9UHdYSe077777; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 18:39:34 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 18:39:34 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: Gary Aitken Message-ID: <20041030173934.GB97779@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , Gary Aitken , questions@freebsd.org References: <4183C639.1000406@Dreamchaser.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="CdrF4e02JqNVZeln" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4183C639.1000406@Dreamchaser.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.5.6 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sat, 30 Oct 2004 18:39:35 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040904, clamav-milter version 0.75l on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xhost problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 17:39:53 -0000 --CdrF4e02JqNVZeln Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Oct 30, 2004 at 10:50:01AM -0600, Gary Aitken wrote: > I can't get an xterm from another machine to display on my 5.3 system. > I've tried xhost with the ip of the machine I want to allow in, > and finally tried xhost + to allow any machine in, > but attempts to display still fail with "Can't open display w.x.y.z:0.0" >=20 > firewall_enable and ipfilter_enable are NO at the moment, > and the source (xterm) system is open on the internal network. >=20 > What am I missing? Xservers don't listen on the network by default nowadays, because running X across the network in plain is about as bad as using rsh(1), or unencrypted telnet(1). Ideally you should be tunnelling the X session through ssh(1) -- look for the description of the '-X' and '-Y' flags to ssh ('-Y' is only available with more recent versions of ssh(1)), and the 'ForwardX11' command you can use in /etc/ssh/ssh_config or ~/.ssh/config. If you're tunnelling through ssh(1), everything should be setup automatically for you: your $DISPLAY on the remote machine will look like 'localhost:10.0' or 'remote.host.name:10.0' -- don't fiddle with the $DISPLAY setting, or you'll never get the forwarding to work. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --CdrF4e02JqNVZeln Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBg9HWiD657aJF7eIRArqkAJ96tX047yvnyngJKXRRyhvO0BUuUACcDkwP R62ZR3uqbPImCivkjEcZPrA= =5YNp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --CdrF4e02JqNVZeln-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 17:41:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61DA716A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 17:41:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-02-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE88B43D45 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 17:41:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jason@ec.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.1.103] (cpe-065-184-172-100.ec.rr.com [65.184.172.100])i9UHfW4R006269; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 13:41:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4183D27D.20207@ec.rr.com> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 13:42:21 -0400 From: jason User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (X11/20041025) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Storey References: <20041030210631.01704afe.y2kbug@ms25.hinet.net> In-Reply-To: <20041030210631.01704afe.y2kbug@ms25.hinet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: throttling cpu speed to run cooler X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 17:41:36 -0000 Robert Storey wrote: >Dear All, > >I've been looking for a utility to reduce cpu speed to make my laptop >run cooler. Ideally, it should reduce cpu speed to about 20% when speed >is not needed, and restore speed to 100% when the load requires it. > >There is such a utility for Linux, called powernowd: > >http://www.deater.net/john/powernowd.html > >Using this with Debian, my cpu temperature drops by about 15 degrees >Celsius! > >I'm just wondering if a utility similar to powernowd already exists for >FreeBSD? I did search the mailing list archives and found some talk >about developing just such a program, but never found out if it was >finally done, and what the said package might be called. > >regards, >Robert >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > man acpi_thermal and man acpi. There are sysctl knobs to throttle your cpu. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 17:48:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7C5D16A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 17:48:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp809.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp809.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.188]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 39FAB43D1D for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 17:48:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bill.blum@sbcglobal.net) Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (bill.blum@sbcglobal.net@68.74.222.13 with plain) by smtp809.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Oct 2004 17:48:11 -0000 Message-ID: <4183D3D6.8070505@sbcglobal.net> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 13:48:06 -0400 From: Bill Blum User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Buildworld Error, 5.3-RC1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 17:48:12 -0000 Hi there, ran into the following problem after typing 'make buildworld' on a freshly installed, freshly cvsup'ed system. No changes were made to the default installation-- code was cvsup'ed to RELENG_5_3 before the buildworld. Hardware: Gigabyte GA7N400 Pro2, Athlon XP2800+, 2 Gig Memory. (dmesg upon request) End of error output appears below: --- ic/../../contrib/file -o mkmagic /usr/src/lib/libmagic/../../contrib/file/apprentice.c /usr/src/lib/libmagic/../../contrib/file/funcs.c /usr/src/lib/libmagic/../../contrib/file/magic.c /usr/src/lib/libmagic/../../contrib/file/print.c /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lc *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/lib/libmagic. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/lib. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. minerva# uname -a FreeBSD minerva.basement.home 5.3-RC1 FreeBSD 5.3-RC1 #0: Sun Oct 17 01:25:37 UTC 2004 root@wv1u.samsco.home:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 --- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 17:52:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B505C16A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 17:52:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail2.swebase.com (mail2.swebase.com [213.80.38.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0D1A43D64 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 17:52:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nocturnal@swehack.se) Received: from WorldClient ([127.0.0.1]) (authenticated user nocturnal@swehack.se) by mail2.swebase.com (mail2.swebase.com [127.0.0.1]) (MDaemon.PRO.v6.8.5.R) with ESMTP id 61-md50000000195.tmp for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 19:51:27 +0200 Received: from [213.80.36.9] via WorldClient with HTTP; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 19:51:27 +0200 Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 19:51:27 +0200 From: "nocturnal" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.8.5 X-Spam-Processed: mail2.swebase.com, Sat, 30 Oct 2004 19:51:27 +0200 (not processed: message from valid local sender) X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: nocturnal@swehack.se X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: sysctl.conf values reseting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 17:52:54 -0000 Hi While i had one value(kern.ps_showallprocs) in sysctl.conf all was fine but then i added a few extra values and now each time i boot i see the sysctl values in sysctl.conf being reset to their defaults. This is my sysctl.conf: ------------ kern.ps_showallprocs = 0 kern.ipc.shmmax = 67108864 kern.ipc.shmall = 32768 hw.snd.pcm0.vchans = 4 hw.snd.maxautovchans = 4 ------------ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 18:26:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EE9816A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 18:26:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from postman.arcor.de (postman2.arcor-online.net [151.189.20.157]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39ADE43D3F for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 18:26:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from steffen.hetzel@arcor.de) Received: from julius (dialin-145-254-068-240.arcor-ip.net [145.254.68.240]) (authenticated bits=0)i9UIQYRi002733 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 20:26:36 +0200 (MEST) Message-Id: <200410301826.i9UIQYRi002733@postman.arcor.de> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 20:30:50 +0200 From: Steffen Hetzel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.10claws (GTK+ 1.3.0; Win32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: gvinum raid5 newfs problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 18:26:41 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, i'd like to set up a FreeBSD Server (for 3 Clients). I'll use vinun for /tmp/usr/var /home and /trash - partition. (/trash is for old stuff) I use gvinum Raid0 for /tmp ; Raid1 for /usr, /var & /home without any problems. My /trash - Partition is a Raid5 Array with 4x80GB IDE Discs attached on a Promise Ultra100TX2 Controller. It's no problem to set up the array and init it. But when i try to make "newfs-U /dev/gvinum/trash" the system stop ... feuer# newfs -U /dev/gvinum/trash /dev/gvinum/trash: 235585.1MB (482478336 sectors) block size 16384, fragment size 2048 using 1282 cylinder groups of 183.77MB, 11761 blks, 23552 inodes. with soft updates super-block backups (for fsck -b #) at: 160, 376512, 752864, 1129216, 1505568, 1881920, 2258272, 2634624, 3010976, 3387328, 3763680, 4140032, 4516384, 4892736, 5269088, 5645440, 6021792, and gives the following error message: feuer kernel: stray irq7 and furher it crashed, so that i can't log in or something else. I have tryed it with my own Kernel feuer# uname -a FreeBSD feuer.***.** 5.3-STABLE FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE #0: Tue Oct 26 19:03:09 UTC 2004 hazelnut@feuer.***.**:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SERVER i386 and with the 5.3beta6 GENERIC Kernel. No difference. I get the same error-message when i try to "newfs" using vinum, but the system don't crash. Furthermore i can't find any device on irq7. So i'm helpless and fear, that there is a hardware problem. I've posted the problem to the german mailing list, and found someone (michael) with the same problem - but no one who can help. I attach my dmesg & my vinum.conf - maybe it helps you. Thanks in advance Steffen vinum.conf: drive raid11 device /dev/ad0s1d drive raid12 device /dev/ad2s1d drive raid51 device /dev/ad4s1d drive raid52 device /dev/ad5s1d drive raid53 device /dev/ad6s1d drive raid54 device /dev/ad7s1d ## Raid 0 volume tmp plex org striped 384k sd length 75m drive raid11 sd length 75m drive raid12 ## Raid 1 volume usr setupstate plex org concat sd length 4000m drive raid11 plex org concat sd length 4000m drive raid12 volume var setupstate plex org concat sd length 200m drive raid11 plex org concat sd length 200m drive raid12 volume home setupstate plex org concat sd length 0 drive raid11 plex org concat sd length 0 drive raid12 ## Raid 5 volume trash plex org raid5 384k sd length 0 drive raid51 sd length 0 drive raid52 sd length 0 drive raid53 sd length 0 drive raid54 dmesg (after such a crash) feuer# dmesg Copyright (c) 1992-2004 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE #0: Tue Oct 26 19:03:09 UTC 2004 hazelnut@feuer.***.**:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SERVER Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (374.88-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x652 Stepping = 2 Features=0x183f9ff real memory = 402640896 (383 MB) avail memory = 388493312 (370 MB) npx0: [FAST] npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-safe" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0xe408-0xe40b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 acpi_button0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 agp0: mem 0xe4000000-0xe7ffffff at device 0.0 on pci0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 isab0: at device 4.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xd800-0xd80f,0x376,0x170-0x177,0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 4.1 on pci0 ata0: channel #0 on atapci0 ata1: channel #1 on atapci0 uhci0: port 0xd400-0xd41f irq 10 at device 4.2 on pci0 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered pci0: at device 4.3 (no driver attached) fxp0: port 0xd000-0xd03f mem 0xe0800000-0xe08fffff,0xe1000000-0xe1000fff irq 10 at device 9.0 on pci0 miibus0: on fxp0 inphy0: on miibus0 inphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto fxp0: Ethernet address: 00:d0:b7:de:1e:89 atapci1: port 0xa400-0xa40f,0xa800-0xa803,0xb000-0xb007,0xb400-0xb403,0xb800-0xb807 mem 0xe0000000-0xe0003fff irq 11 at device 11.0 on pci0 ata2: channel #0 on atapci1 ata3: channel #1 on atapci1 pci0: at device 12.0 (no driver attached) sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A atkbdc0: port 0x64,0x60 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] pmtimer0 on isa0 orm0: at iomem 0xcc000-0xce7ff,0xc8000-0xc97ff,0xc0000-0xc7fff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 ppc0: parallel port not found. sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled Timecounter "TSC" frequency 374877595 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec ad0: 38166MB [77545/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA33 acd0: DVDROM at ata0-slave UDMA33 ad2: 38166MB [77545/16/63] at ata1-master UDMA33 GEOM_VINUM: subdisk tmp.p0.s0 is up GEOM_VINUM: subdisk usr.p0.s0 is up GEOM_VINUM: subdisk var.p0.s0 is up GEOM_VINUM: subdisk home.p0.s0 is up ad4: 78533MB [159560/16/63] at ata2-master UDMA100 ad5: 78533MB [159560/16/63] at ata2-slave UDMA100 ad6: 78533MB [159560/16/63] at ata3-master UDMA100 ad7: 78533MB [159560/16/63] at ata3-slave UDMA100 GEOM_VINUM: subdisk tmp.p0.s1 is up GEOM_VINUM: subdisk usr.p1.s0 is up GEOM_VINUM: subdisk var.p1.s0 is up GEOM_VINUM: subdisk home.p1.s0 is up GEOM_VINUM: subdisk trash.p0.s0 is up GEOM_VINUM: subdisk trash.p0.s1 is up GEOM_VINUM: subdisk trash.p0.s2 is up GEOM_VINUM: subdisk trash.p0.s3 is up Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a WARNING: / was not properly dismounted WARNING: /home was not properly dismounted WARNING: /tmp was not properly dismounted /tmp: mount pending error: blocks 4 files 2 WARNING: /var was not properly dismounted /var: mount pending error: blocks 36 files 9 WARNING: /usr was not properly dismounted -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (MingW32) iD8DBQFBg93a+ncQkd2QQDkRAvgVAJ4iHB4trN6JZEhdmAMWyYAqrKUOyACgsmNe 1uXSYxQf51jiJAV69BAFwEA= =LU3Z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 19:12:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E80E16A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 19:12:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-m23.mx.aol.com (imo-m23.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8CB843D41 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 19:12:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from TM4525@aol.com) Received: from TM4525@aol.com by imo-m23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id n.1df.2d9e5862 (25305) for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 15:12:35 -0400 (EDT) From: TM4525@aol.com Message-ID: <1df.2d9e5862.2eb541a3@aol.com> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 15:12:35 EDT To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5114 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Re: 7520 Chipset support in 4.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 19:12:42 -0000 > > Many of the new MBs from such tiny vendors as Dell and Supermicro > > are based on the 7520, and word is that FreeBSD 4.x doesn't support > > it. Is support forthcoming? > > We have 2 Dell PowerEdge 1850 servers which have the e7520 chipset. They > hang consistently in 4.10-RELEASE and below whenever there is high network > or disk utilization. We have not been able to get any debugging info. > After upgrading to 4.10-STABLE a couple of weeks ago, they no longer hang, > but they are _really_ slow to perform network and disk operations. > > They work fine in FreeBSD 5.3, but unfortunately our applications do not > run without recompiling. We do not want to change our environment to > support different binaries for different machines, and we don't want to > use 5.X in production until it is STABLE. > > I want to echo the above question. Are there patches available or > forthcoming to fix the problems with the e7520? > > Thanks, > > - > Rob Watt I think that we can imply from the lack of response on this subject that 4.x is not really still supported, since just about all of the new motherboards for Intel processors from leaders Dell and Supermicro are based on the 7520. So, ironically, in order to use the newer, faster processors with FreeBSD, you have to use the newer, slower version of the O/S. Yikes! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 19:24:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81DBB16A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 19:24:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dnsmail4.ior.navy.mil (nocc.ior.navy.mil [205.56.210.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E67CB43D5C for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 19:24:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from JohnsoBS@vicksburg.navy.mil) Received: from cg69ubd01.vicksburg.navy.mil ([205.95.65.21]) i9UJLSJ2002407; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 19:21:33 GMT Received: by CG69UBD01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 22:27:30 +0300 Message-ID: From: JohnsoBS@vicksburg.navy.mil To: TM4525@aol.com, questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 22:27:22 +0300 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Subject: RE: 7520 Chipset support in 4.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 19:24:26 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: TM4525@aol.com [mailto:TM4525@aol.com] > Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 9:13 PM > To: questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: 7520 Chipset support in 4.x > > > > > Many of the new MBs from such tiny vendors as Dell and Supermicro > > > are based on the 7520, and word is that FreeBSD 4.x > doesn't support > > > it. Is support forthcoming? > > > > We have 2 Dell PowerEdge 1850 servers which have the e7520 > chipset. They > > hang consistently in 4.10-RELEASE and below whenever there > is high network > > or disk utilization. We have not been able to get any > debugging info. > > After upgrading to 4.10-STABLE a couple of weeks ago, they > no longer hang, > > but they are _really_ slow to perform network and disk operations. > > > > They work fine in FreeBSD 5.3, but unfortunately our > applications do not > > run without recompiling. We do not want to change our environment to > > support different binaries for different machines, and we > don't want to > > use 5.X in production until it is STABLE. > > > > I want to echo the above question. Are there patches available or > > forthcoming to fix the problems with the e7520? > > > > Thanks, > > > > - > > Rob Watt > > I think that we can imply from the lack of response on this > subject that 4.x > is not really still supported, since just about all of the > new motherboards > for Intel processors from leaders Dell and Supermicro are > based on the > 7520. So, ironically, in order to use the newer, faster > processors with > FreeBSD, you have to use the newer, slower version of the O/S. Yikes! Considering 4.x kept getting tweaked all the way to 4.10 where 4.10 is benched even faster than 4.9 in my experiences with the OS, I find it reasonable to assume that new code that hasn't fully matured and been fully adopted by mass may be slower. As in your previous post on the subject, I find it no where near as slow as you have stated. For one who couldn't figure out how to compile without the witness options and various other debug stuff into the kernel and base system, it prolly would be slower. After I took this stuff out of the build my benches were greatly improved, but alas, not to 4.10 speeds. Given time and mass acceptance of the OS which will adopt more coders and patches from people not yet using the OS I would expect it to speed up even more. When you do such a radical swing in codebases and haven't fully tested them, you should expect it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 19:56:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79D8316A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 19:56:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.116]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE35E43D39 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 19:56:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jayobrien@worldnet.att.net) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (dsl093-180-184.sac1.dsl.speakeasy.net[66.93.180.184]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc12) with ESMTP id <2004103019563611200mhfqce> (Authid: jayobrien@att.net); Sat, 30 Oct 2004 19:56:40 +0000 Message-ID: <4183F1F3.90401@att.net> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 12:56:35 -0700 From: Jay O'Brien User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040803 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD - questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: How to print to hp JetDirect/LaserJet 1300 Network printer? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 19:56:41 -0000 I'm confused, as there seem to be many conflicting directions out there. http://Linuxprinting.org is overwhelming. I'm a new user of 4.10. I want to print to my hp 1300 LaserJet, which has a JetDirect network server and is connected to my LAN. The Win machines on the LAN print fine to the printer. The printer is assigned the fixed IP 192.168.1.40. I can ping that address from my FreeBSD computer. Suggestions? Jay O'Brien Rio Linda, CA USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 20:04:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AA9B16A4CE; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 20:04:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.owt.com (smtp.owt.com [204.118.6.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D96ED43D45; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 20:04:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from [207.41.94.233] (owt-207-41-94-233.owt.com [207.41.94.233]) by smtp.owt.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i9UK4DLc031259; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 13:04:13 -0700 From: Kent Stewart To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 13:04:33 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <4183F1F3.90401@att.net> In-Reply-To: <4183F1F3.90401@att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410301304.33357.kstewart@owt.com> cc: FreeBSD - questions cc: Jay O'Brien Subject: Re: How to print to hp JetDirect/LaserJet 1300 Network printer? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 20:04:37 -0000 On Saturday 30 October 2004 12:56 pm, Jay O'Brien wrote: > I'm confused, as there seem to be many conflicting directions > out there. http://Linuxprinting.org is overwhelming. > > I'm a new user of 4.10. I want to print to my hp 1300 LaserJet, > which has a JetDirect network server and is connected to my LAN. > The Win machines on the LAN print fine to the printer. > > The printer is assigned the fixed IP 192.168.1.40. I can ping > that address from my FreeBSD computer. > > Suggestions? It is about as simple a printer to print to that you can get. On the other hand, you have problems configuring all possibilities. I use lp|HPLJ2:\ :lp=:\ :rm=psrvr:\ :rp=L1:\ :if=/var/spool/lpd/lj.sh:\ :lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd:\ :mx#0 for my printcap entries. I have a netgear printsever and it is l1 on the server. I can't lp a file because it stairsteps but I want to print from kword and don't have any problem. Kent > > Jay O'Brien > Rio Linda, CA USA > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 20:04:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AA9B16A4CE; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 20:04:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.owt.com (smtp.owt.com [204.118.6.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D96ED43D45; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 20:04:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from [207.41.94.233] (owt-207-41-94-233.owt.com [207.41.94.233]) by smtp.owt.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i9UK4DLc031259; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 13:04:13 -0700 From: Kent Stewart To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 13:04:33 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <4183F1F3.90401@att.net> In-Reply-To: <4183F1F3.90401@att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410301304.33357.kstewart@owt.com> cc: FreeBSD - questions cc: Jay O'Brien Subject: Re: How to print to hp JetDirect/LaserJet 1300 Network printer? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 20:04:37 -0000 On Saturday 30 October 2004 12:56 pm, Jay O'Brien wrote: > I'm confused, as there seem to be many conflicting directions > out there. http://Linuxprinting.org is overwhelming. > > I'm a new user of 4.10. I want to print to my hp 1300 LaserJet, > which has a JetDirect network server and is connected to my LAN. > The Win machines on the LAN print fine to the printer. > > The printer is assigned the fixed IP 192.168.1.40. I can ping > that address from my FreeBSD computer. > > Suggestions? It is about as simple a printer to print to that you can get. On the other hand, you have problems configuring all possibilities. I use lp|HPLJ2:\ :lp=:\ :rm=psrvr:\ :rp=L1:\ :if=/var/spool/lpd/lj.sh:\ :lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd:\ :mx#0 for my printcap entries. I have a netgear printsever and it is l1 on the server. I can't lp a file because it stairsteps but I want to print from kword and don't have any problem. Kent > > Jay O'Brien > Rio Linda, CA USA > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 20:25:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E87E16A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 20:25:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay03.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (relay03.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.131.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFF5643D49 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 20:25:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: from filter01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (filter01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.131.176]) by relay03.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28886191DD1 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 20:25:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay03.roc.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.131.36]) [66.133.131.176]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 28872-52-54 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 20:25:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (67-137-46-138.dsl2.elk.ca.frontiernet.net [67.137.46.138]) by relay03.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74B14192097 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 20:25:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.25] (lugalong.mykitchentable.net [192.168.1.25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 365AE3BF36E for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 13:25:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4183F8AE.6060006@mykitchentable.net> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 13:25:18 -0700 From: Drew Tomlinson User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms020208090908070008070607" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20040701 (2.0) (Debian) at filter01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net Subject: Pthreads Bug & Bacula X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 20:25:20 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms020208090908070008070607 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can anyone tell me if or when the pthreads bug was fixed in version 4? Google searches show some indication it was fixed in 4.9 and other information that it was fixed in 4.10. I'm running 4.9-RELEASE-p4. Currently I'm following the instructions in pthreads-fix.txt but with my DLT30 drive, I can see this will take many hours. I would really appreciate it if someone can save me the time. :) I will upgrade to 4.10 if I need to but would rather not if I don't have to. 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Sat, 30 Oct 2004 20:32:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from chello084114137224.1.15.vie.surfer.at (chello084114137224.1.15.vie.surfer.at [84.114.137.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2DE8043D46 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 20:32:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from 4711@chello.at) Received: (qmail 81323 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2004 20:32:51 -0000 Received: from matrix010.matrix.net (192.168.123.10) by ns.matrix.net with SMTP; 30 Oct 2004 20:32:51 -0000 From: Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 22:32:32 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410302232.51272.4711@chello.at> cc: nocturnal Subject: Re: sysctl.conf values reseting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 20:32:54 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 30 October 2004 19:51, nocturnal wrote: > Hi > > While i had one value(kern.ps_showallprocs) in sysctl.conf all was fine > but then i added a few extra values and now each time i boot i see the > sysctl values in sysctl.conf being reset to their defaults. > > This is my sysctl.conf: > ------------ > kern.ps_showallprocs = 0 > kern.ipc.shmmax = 67108864 > kern.ipc.shmall = 32768 > hw.snd.pcm0.vchans = 4 > hw.snd.maxautovchans = 4 > ------------ kern.ps_showallprocs=0 kern.ipc.shmmax=67108864 kern.ipc.shmall=32768 hw.snd.pcm0.vchans=4 hw.snd.maxautovchans=4 Cheers, ch - -- Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> | OpenPGP KeyID 0x3BCA53BE OpenPGP-Key at hkp://wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net and http://pgp.mit.edu -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBg/pz09WjGjvKU74RArnyAJ9kkFkM01Gv9dF5lvKI2QvEv3/AWQCcCX7O r3U/oJBKv3/vZyWIozapnNE= =65G6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 20:34:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7FC416A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 20:34:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.116]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63C4B43D58 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 20:34:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jayobrien@worldnet.att.net) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (dsl093-180-184.sac1.dsl.speakeasy.net[66.93.180.184]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc12) with ESMTP id <2004103020344311200mhrf9e> (Authid: jayobrien@att.net); Sat, 30 Oct 2004 20:34:43 +0000 Message-ID: <4183FAE2.6080807@att.net> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 13:34:42 -0700 From: Jay O'Brien User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040803 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kent Stewart , FreeBSD - questions References: <4183F1F3.90401@att.net> <200410301304.33357.kstewart@owt.com> In-Reply-To: <200410301304.33357.kstewart@owt.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: How to print to hp JetDirect/LaserJet 1300 Network printer? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 20:34:44 -0000 Kent Stewart wrote: > On Saturday 30 October 2004 12:56 pm, Jay O'Brien wrote: > >>I'm confused, as there seem to be many conflicting directions >>out there. http://Linuxprinting.org is overwhelming. >> >>I'm a new user of 4.10. I want to print to my hp 1300 LaserJet, >>which has a JetDirect network server and is connected to my LAN. >>The Win machines on the LAN print fine to the printer. >> >>The printer is assigned the fixed IP 192.168.1.40. I can ping >>that address from my FreeBSD computer. >> >>Suggestions? > > > It is about as simple a printer to print to that you can get. On the other > hand, you have problems configuring all possibilities. I use > > lp|HPLJ2:\ > :lp=:\ > :rm=psrvr:\ > :rp=L1:\ > :if=/var/spool/lpd/lj.sh:\ > :lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\ > :sd=/var/spool/lpd:\ > :mx#0 > for my printcap entries. I have a netgear printsever and it is l1 on the > server. I can't lp a file because it stairsteps but I want to print from > kword and don't have any problem. > > Kent > > >>Jay O'Brien >>Rio Linda, CA USA Kent, How does that send the files to be printed to 192.168.1.40? Stairsteps? Jay From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 20:43:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54E7316A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 20:43:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (ol.freeshell.org [192.94.73.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2AA543D1F for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 20:43:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lukas@sdf.lonestar.org) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (IDENT:lukas@xm.freeshell.org [192.94.73.22]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9UKhA9A004783; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 20:43:10 GMT Received: (from lukas@localhost) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.12.10/8.12.8/Submit) id i9UKh9N0012966; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 13:43:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 13:43:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Luke X-X-Sender: lukas@xm.freeshell.org To: Ewald Jenisch In-Reply-To: <20041030143217.GA9742@athena.oekb.co.at> Message-ID: References: <20041030143217.GA9742@athena.oekb.co.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SMP with hyperthreading CPU (5.3)? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: LukeD@pobox.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 20:43:13 -0000 > If not - what should I do besides enabling "SMP" in the kernel config > file (sure enough "cpu I386_CPU" which effectively disables SMP is > commented out) I haven't updated my system since August, but back then the "apic" device was also required. 5.3 may be different. This is the relevant section from my 5.2-CURRENT hyperthreading kernel from last August. # To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel device apic # I/O APIC From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 21:29:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87B1A16A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 21:29:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2421643D69 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 21:29:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id v30so124942rnb for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 14:29:58 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=p38ahFi3ERX61U9tq1rVG0zY9aIj1MAVbGGofvd8iCqhSdYzJYiDUQoYH0n2WzRu5VPc4yGasWfy0KAzyonVYuw6KtGXr1XfGQ/oNTixcL11xs/gp1aSwP/aygrC0vxC748PSkYRdzloLs22Nd/QO4WPsQx0uH9xlKtxyXUEff0= Received: by 10.38.98.30 with SMTP id v30mr855875rnb; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 14:29:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.206.40 with HTTP; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 14:29:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 02:59:58 +0530 From: Subhro To: "Matthias F. Brandstetter" In-Reply-To: <200410301217.05727.haimat@lame.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200410292355.43148.haimat@lame.at> <200410301217.05727.haimat@lame.at> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: howto software raid under FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Subhro List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 21:29:59 -0000 On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 12:17:05 +0200, Matthias F. Brandstetter wrote: > > I never ever had any diffuiculties or hatches with software raids on Linux > systems. You got me wrongly. The primary reason why "I" would make a RAID is fault tolerance. In case of hardware RAIDs, rebuilding a sick RAID is without any troubles. On the other hand for software RAIDs its quite a trouble (atleast I am not confortablw with it, maybe I am biased towards hardware). Also I guess you didn't notice that I mentioned about the performance issues too. Regards S. -- Subhro Sankha Kar School of Information Technology Block AQ-13/1 Sector V ZIP 700091 India From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 21:43:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97E6616A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 21:43:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-04-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDD4443D58 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 21:43:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jason@ec.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.1.103] (cpe-065-184-172-100.ec.rr.com [65.184.172.100])i9ULhhCh003138; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 17:43:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <41840B42.1020500@ec.rr.com> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 17:44:34 -0400 From: jason User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (X11/20041025) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jay O'Brien" References: <4183F1F3.90401@att.net> In-Reply-To: <4183F1F3.90401@att.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine cc: FreeBSD - questions Subject: Re: How to print to hp JetDirect/LaserJet 1300 Network printer? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 21:43:47 -0000 Jay O'Brien wrote: >I'm confused, as there seem to be many conflicting directions >out there. http://Linuxprinting.org is overwhelming. > >I'm a new user of 4.10. I want to print to my hp 1300 LaserJet, >which has a JetDirect network server and is connected to my LAN. >The Win machines on the LAN print fine to the printer. > >The printer is assigned the fixed IP 192.168.1.40. I can ping >that address from my FreeBSD computer. > >Suggestions? > >Jay O'Brien >Rio Linda, CA USA > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > Try this link file:///usr/share/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/printing-advanced.html go to section 9.4.3 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 21:45:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 930F816A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 21:45:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from darkness-is.com (adsl247-146.incentre.net [207.216.247.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C45443D46 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 21:45:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cculver@darkness-is.com) Received: from darknessws1 (S0106004005da67a3.rd.shawcable.net [24.64.12.138]) by darkness-is.com (darkness-is.com [207.216.247.146]) (MDaemon.PRO.v6.8.5.R) with ESMTP id 34-md50000000049.tmp for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 15:42:08 -0600 From: "Clay" To: "'Danny MacMillan'" Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 15:44:39 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <20041030064838.GA1323@procyon.nekulturny.org> Thread-Index: AcS+TFQKB0aa8H1/TrKvuN2lEcdlaAAfLIFQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-MDRemoteIP: 24.64.12.138 X-Return-Path: cculver@darkness-is.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,IN_REP_TO,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-Spam-Report: ---- Start SpamAssassin results 3.10 points, 5 required; Message preview: > Content analysis details: IN_REP_TO (-0.5 points) Has a In-Reply-To header quoted email textMS Outlookisn't ---- End SpamAssassin results X-Spam-Processed: darkness-is.com, Sat, 30 Oct 2004 15:42:10 -0600 Message-Id: <20041030214523.2C45443D46@mx1.FreeBSD.org> cc: "'Aaron P. Martinez'" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Apache 2.0.52 help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 21:45:23 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Danny MacMillan > Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 12:49 AM > To: Clay > Cc: 'Aaron P. Martinez'; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Apache 2.0.52 help > > On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 11:33:12PM -0600, Clay wrote: > > It is not a DSL Router/Modem, just a straight old school ADSL > > modem. I have three static IP addresses. One is being used for the > > current web server, one is on the machine I am typing this on, and > > the third is being used for this server for testing. > > You know, one thing that occurs to me is: are you obtaining your IP > addresses from (your ISP's) DHCP server? If not, are you sure you are > giving your new FreeBSD web server the right address? If the address you > are using is incorrect, it's quite possible that the machine you are > (successfully) pinging isn't the FreeBSD machine, just another unrelated > host that responds to ping, as most hosts do, but doesn't have a web > server running. If your machines are connected to the ADSL modem via a > switch (which is how it sounds like you have things set up), the FreeBSD > web server would still see and respond to the traffic addressed to its > (incorrect) IP from your two other machines. > > I can think of two ways to test this: One, ping the host from the > external non-working machine and monitor the FreeBSD machine to see if > it is being pinged. I'm sure there's a way to do that, I just don't > know what it is :) The other is to temporarily switch IP addresses > with one of your other known working machines and see if you can access > the web server via that address. > > -- > Danny > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Well looks like playing the IP game got it fixed. Changed the IP's of this machine and the FreeBSD machine around and rebooted the FreeBSD machine and it works now. Not sure what was up oh well, glad it is working anyways. Thanks for all the help everyone, a lot of insight for me on how FreeBSD works. Clay From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 21:51:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E23616A4CF for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 21:51:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-01-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7DAB43D62 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 21:51:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jason@ec.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.1.103] (cpe-065-184-172-100.ec.rr.com [65.184.172.100])i9ULpSKj011572; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 17:51:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <41840D14.5000006@ec.rr.com> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 17:52:20 -0400 From: jason User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (X11/20041025) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Drew Tomlinson References: <4183F8AE.6060006@mykitchentable.net> In-Reply-To: <4183F8AE.6060006@mykitchentable.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Pthreads Bug & Bacula X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 21:51:32 -0000 Drew Tomlinson wrote: > Can anyone tell me if or when the pthreads bug was fixed in version > 4? Google searches show some indication it was fixed in 4.9 and other > information that it was fixed in 4.10. I'm running 4.9-RELEASE-p4. > > Currently I'm following the instructions in pthreads-fix.txt but with > my DLT30 drive, I can see this will take many hours. I would really > appreciate it if someone can save me the time. :) I will upgrade to > 4.10 if I need to but would rather not if I don't have to. I don't > want to fix what isn't broken! :) > > Thanks, > > Drew > I was just updating my system yesterday and ran into the pthread bug. I had updated libxml2 and it was compiled with pthreads. To fix it I removed /var/db/ports/libxml2/options. When I recompiled it asked for a config, and I told it no pthreads. Now it works fine. So to answer your question the "bug" was never fixed because it is a design implementation issue. FreeBSD just exposes it right away instead of far off randomly in the future when you have long uptime(had to do with pids being recycled) so the general rule was disable them. Hope this helps. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 21:52:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A15A16A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 21:52:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 080BA43D5D for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 21:52:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Emanuel.Strobl@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 24572 invoked by uid 65534); 30 Oct 2004 21:52:12 -0000 Received: from flb.schmalzbauer.de (EHLO cale.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de) (62.245.232.135) by mail.gmx.net (mp013) with SMTP; 30 Oct 2004 23:52:12 +0200 X-Authenticated: #301138 From: Emanuel Strobl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 23:52:10 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <200410292355.43148.haimat@lame.at> <200410300228.17211.Emanuel.Strobl@gmx.net> <200410301218.28952.haimat@lame.at> In-Reply-To: <200410301218.28952.haimat@lame.at> X-OS: FreeBSD X-Birthday: 10/06/72 X-Address: Munich, 80686 X-Tel: +49 89 18947781 X-CelPhone: +49 173 9967781 X-Country: Germany MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1673694.O62gdyauo8"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200410302352.12237.Emanuel.Strobl@gmx.net> cc: "Matthias F. Brandstetter" Subject: Re: howto software raid under FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 21:52:15 -0000 --nextPart1673694.O62gdyauo8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Am Samstag, 30. Oktober 2004 12:18 schrieb Matthias F. Brandstetter: > ---------- quoting Emanuel Strobl ---------- > > > Why not, but you also have gmirror and ataraid, the former only on 5.3. > > For ataraid you can use 'atacontrol create RAID1 ad4 ad6' for example > > For gmirror you can use 'gmirror label -v -b split -s 2048 mrr ad4 ad6' > > And you mentioned vinum and ccd already. > > why: because ccd seems not very good when it comes to replace a disk... > and ad ataraid and gmirror: where do I find docs about them on internet? Why going outside and searching the internet? You have a complete operating system, and it's one of the best documented o= ut=20 there. Just 'man ata', 'man atacontrol' and 'man gmirror'. Remember that=20 =46reeBSD isn't just a hacked kernel with lots of stuff arround without any= =20 sense, it's standardized an documented! ;) =2DHarry > > greets, Matthias --nextPart1673694.O62gdyauo8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBhA0MBylq0S4AzzwRAg0lAKCQfnqNnaKW/cEDTkaKXe0w64esMgCfTvzk qVEUhl1LRI1turDXoHLhePA= =6i9S -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1673694.O62gdyauo8-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 22:00:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7117316A502 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 22:00:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7C8B043D5A for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 22:00:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Emanuel.Strobl@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 22364 invoked by uid 65534); 30 Oct 2004 22:00:06 -0000 Received: from flb.schmalzbauer.de (EHLO cale.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de) (62.245.232.135) by mail.gmx.net (mp015) with SMTP; 31 Oct 2004 00:00:06 +0200 X-Authenticated: #301138 From: Emanuel Strobl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 00:00:04 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <200410292355.43148.haimat@lame.at> <200410301218.28952.haimat@lame.at> <200410302352.12237.Emanuel.Strobl@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <200410302352.12237.Emanuel.Strobl@gmx.net> X-OS: FreeBSD X-Birthday: 10/06/72 X-Address: Munich, 80686 X-Tel: +49 89 18947781 X-CelPhone: +49 173 9967781 X-Country: Germany MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart3362063.WvF2UOf6iS"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200410310000.05796.Emanuel.Strobl@gmx.net> cc: "Matthias F. Brandstetter" Subject: Re: howto software raid under FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 22:00:08 -0000 --nextPart3362063.WvF2UOf6iS Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Am Samstag, 30. Oktober 2004 23:52 schrieb Emanuel Strobl: > Am Samstag, 30. Oktober 2004 12:18 schrieb Matthias F. Brandstetter: > > ---------- quoting Emanuel Strobl ---------- > > > > > Why not, but you also have gmirror and ataraid, the former only on 5.= 3. > > > For ataraid you can use 'atacontrol create RAID1 ad4 ad6' for example > > > For gmirror you can use 'gmirror label -v -b split -s 2048 mrr ad4 ad= 6' > > > And you mentioned vinum and ccd already. > > > > why: because ccd seems not very good when it comes to replace a disk... > > and ad ataraid and gmirror: where do I find docs about them on internet? > > Why going outside and searching the internet? > You have a complete operating system, and it's one of the best documented > out there. Just 'man ata', 'man atacontrol' and 'man gmirror'. Remember > that FreeBSD isn't just a hacked kernel with lots of stuff arround without > any sense, it's standardized an documented! ;) And I forgot to emphasize that users have a wonderful hadbook at:=20 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ Also developer etc. have theri handbook at: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/ Just IBM writes handboocs which can compare ;) > > -Harry > > > greets, Matthias --nextPart3362063.WvF2UOf6iS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBhA7lBylq0S4AzzwRAj+qAKCBWInxn8ABYRZpXFpQp+a4S47EvgCgjw4M AHNFmGIUW4O48Ti27jtbMTs= =tGSv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart3362063.WvF2UOf6iS-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 22:21:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BAEE16A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 22:21:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from above.proper.com (above.proper.com [208.184.76.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4005543D1F for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 22:21:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from phoffman@proper.com) Received: from [10.20.30.249] (dsl2-63-249-109-3.cruzio.com [63.249.109.3]) (authenticated bits=0) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i9UMKbit087198 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 15:20:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phoffman@proper.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: phoffprop@mail.proper.com Message-Id: Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 15:20:39 -0700 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Paul Hoffman Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Subject: Laptops as routers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 22:21:16 -0000 Greetings again. I'm looking to buy a couple of cheap old laptops to be used as temporary routers. They just need to be able to handle PCMCIA Ethernet cards, not much more (having an Ethernet connector on the motherboard is fine, of course.) I don't want to run XWindows, and I'm sure 64 MB and a 1gig hard drive would suffice. Are there any brands/models I should lean towards? Ones I should avoid? --Paul Hoffman From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 23:09:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D48EB16A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 23:09:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CF1643D4C for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 23:09:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from TM4525@aol.com) Received: from TM4525@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id n.42.5c009b97 (3964) for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 19:09:09 -0400 (EDT) From: TM4525@aol.com Message-ID: <42.5c009b97.2eb57914@aol.com> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 19:09:08 EDT To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5114 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Re: 7520 Chipset support in 4.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 23:09:13 -0000 >As in your previous post on the subject, I >find it no where near as slow as you have stated. For one who couldn't >figure out how to compile without the witness options and various other >debug stuff into the kernel and base system, it prolly would be slower. >After I took this stuff out of the build my benches were greatly improved, >but alas, not to 4.10 speeds. ---- The POINT is not how much slower 5.3 is than 4.10 is, its the fact that a MAJOR chipset isnt well supported in what is SUPPOSED to be the mainstream, stable release. I know its difficult for you to stay on point, but at least try to "get" the point before ranting about the subject. Since you just babble about "your tests" but have never shown any results, no one really knows what your tests test, if anything. The only "test" anyone has posted was completely bogus (some nonsense about firing packets through a socket interface), so you just can't say "my tests show" unless you clarify what you have done. When 5.3 is released we can banter about benchmarks, as it seems pointless to do it now since its not done. It may be pointless anyway, since they've pretty much admitted that 5.3 isn't (yet) going to rival the efficiency of 4.x. I can accept that, but if 5.x isnt ready, then important chipsets should be supported in 4.x BEFORE they are supported in 5, not when someone gets around to backporting it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 23:12:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C48B16A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 23:12:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5D85A43D41 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 23:12:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Emanuel.Strobl@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 12533 invoked by uid 65534); 30 Oct 2004 23:12:23 -0000 Received: from flb.schmalzbauer.de (EHLO cale.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de) (62.245.232.135) by mail.gmx.net (mp007) with SMTP; 31 Oct 2004 01:12:23 +0200 X-Authenticated: #301138 From: Emanuel Strobl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 01:12:19 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: In-Reply-To: X-OS: FreeBSD X-Birthday: 10/06/72 X-Address: Munich, 80686 X-Tel: +49 89 18947781 X-CelPhone: +49 173 9967781 X-Country: Germany MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1452694.MWdaNZJHL2"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200410310112.21385.Emanuel.Strobl@gmx.net> cc: Paul Hoffman Subject: Re: Laptops as routers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 23:12:25 -0000 --nextPart1452694.MWdaNZJHL2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Am Sonntag, 31. Oktober 2004 00:20 schrieb Paul Hoffman: > Greetings again. I'm looking to buy a couple of cheap old laptops to > be used as temporary routers. They just need to be able to handle > PCMCIA Ethernet cards, not much more (having an Ethernet connector on > the motherboard is fine, of course.) I don't want to run XWindows, > and I'm sure 64 MB and a 1gig hard drive would suffice. > > Are there any brands/models I should lean towards? Ones I should avoid? Bad idea IMHO. I'd suggest having a look at http://www.soekris.com/ (net450= 1=20 for easiest requirements, better 4801, all in one extendable box) or if you= =20 need just basic 586cpu-power without extendability and only (well designed)= =20 ethernet ports see: http://www.pcengines.ch/wrap.htm You can use any type of PC as terminal to operate these boxes vi the serial= =20 interface. Perhaps you already have any old vt100 terminal handy. But I don''t have an answer to your original question, sorry. Although I'd= =20 like to mention that old laptops often can't handle modern PC-CARDSs=20 (CARDBUS), PCMCIA was 5v and 16 bit wide, very slow and really not sutable= =20 for routing purposes! =2DHarry > > --Paul Hoffman > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --nextPart1452694.MWdaNZJHL2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBhB/VBylq0S4AzzwRAiv4AJ4iaYhLfiBdxZzVOStmAO6IRwcLIwCeMn1i CoX8fRro0EfB2YEsSiCaI40= =0Nz+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1452694.MWdaNZJHL2-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 23:15:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D53816A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 23:15:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from darkness-is.com (adsl247-146.incentre.net [207.216.247.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D2D943D3F for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 23:15:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cculver@darkness-is.com) Received: from darknessws1 (adsl247-142.incentre.net [207.216.247.142]) by darkness-is.com (darkness-is.com [207.216.247.146]) (MDaemon.PRO.v6.8.5.R) with ESMTP id 57-md50000000049.tmp for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 17:11:43 -0600 From: "Clay" To: Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 17:14:07 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AcS+1iecHHbrek2RSDKtJMt23yeETA== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-MDRemoteIP: 207.216.247.142 X-Return-Path: cculver@darkness-is.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=4.7 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: **** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-Spam-Report: ---- Start SpamAssassin results 4.70 points, 5 required; Message preview: Hi, Well after getting the last problem solved,mean, half hour. It will not go past this spot, and it just sits there, and then do things in the shell. [...] Content analysis details: HTML_MESSAGE (0.1 points) BODY: HTML included in message HTML_50_60 (0.5 points) BODY: Message is 50% to 60% HTML MS Outlookisn't ---- End SpamAssassin results X-Spam-Processed: darkness-is.com, Sat, 30 Oct 2004 17:11:48 -0600 Message-Id: <20041030231518.0D2D943D3F@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Slow Startup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 23:15:18 -0000 Hi, Well after getting the last problem solved, I have noticed that the FreeBSD machine starts up slowly. By this I mean, when it gets to starting common daemons it just hangs for roughly half hour. It will not go past this spot, and it just sits there, then after time I get the login prompt to which I am able to login and then do things in the shell. I have noticed this a few other times when I was first installing FreeBSD on the machine, and never thought much of it as I always had other things to do. Now that I am able to devote time to getting the server setup, I find it hard to get things done when rebooting then waiting such a long time to log back in after a reboot. Clay From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 23:19:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D936116A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 23:19:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E614E43D48 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 23:19:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Emanuel.Strobl@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 26671 invoked by uid 65534); 30 Oct 2004 23:19:24 -0000 Received: from flb.schmalzbauer.de (EHLO cale.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de) (62.245.232.135) by mail.gmx.net (mp006) with SMTP; 31 Oct 2004 01:19:24 +0200 X-Authenticated: #301138 From: Emanuel Strobl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 01:19:17 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <20041030231518.0D2D943D3F@mx1.FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20041030231518.0D2D943D3F@mx1.FreeBSD.org> X-OS: FreeBSD X-Birthday: 10/06/72 X-Address: Munich, 80686 X-Tel: +49 89 18947781 X-CelPhone: +49 173 9967781 X-Country: Germany MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1213897.baCIerdVZZ"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200410310119.23173.Emanuel.Strobl@gmx.net> cc: Clay Subject: Re: Slow Startup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 23:19:26 -0000 --nextPart1213897.baCIerdVZZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Am Sonntag, 31. Oktober 2004 01:14 schrieb Clay: > Hi, > > > > Well after getting the last problem solved, I have noticed th= at > the FreeBSD machine starts up slowly. By this I mean, when it gets to > starting common daemons it just hangs for roughly half hour. It will not = go > past this spot, and it just sits there, then after time I get the login Hardly imaginable, it seems you have a serios nameserver problem. Have you= =20 tried whil wou see the "hang"? It should skip the rc step. But=20 please at least tell us what version you're using! =2DMano > prompt to which I am able to login and then do things in the shell. > > > > I have noticed this a few other times when I was first > installing FreeBSD on the machine, and never thought much of it as I alwa= ys > had other things to do. Now that I am able to devote time to getting the > server setup, I find it hard to get things done when rebooting then waiti= ng > such a long time to log back in after a reboot. > > > > Clay > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --nextPart1213897.baCIerdVZZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBhCF7Bylq0S4AzzwRAmmiAJ43cldR9Ducq4Z4lJxLzwQSYXTwJwCeM6FB 9fCYUrlRFWa5+0lxawPv/VI= =IbcE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1213897.baCIerdVZZ-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 23:25:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4A4716A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 23:25:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.infinitebubble.com (pia140-70.pioneernet.net [66.114.140.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50BE343D39 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 23:25:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jason@infinitebubble.com) Received: from localhost (thor.infinitebubble.com [10.10.1.1]) by mail.infinitebubble.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EEAB34953; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 16:25:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.infinitebubble.com ([10.10.1.3]) by localhost (thor.infinitebubble.com [10.10.1.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 48852-06; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 16:25:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.1] (aurvandil.infinitebubble.com [192.168.1.1]) by mail.infinitebubble.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FC9C33CD9; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 16:25:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <418422CF.8060601@infinitebubble.com> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 16:25:03 -0700 From: Jason Taylor User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (X11/20041022) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dan Finn References: <200410191908.05609.shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com> <20041019102523.GB16769@mich2.itxmarket.com> <89ceee7041021124849178315@mail.gmail.com> <200410211531.52863.donaldj1066@fastmail.fm> <89ceee70410211346487365f3@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <89ceee70410211346487365f3@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at infinitebubble.com cc: "Donald J. O'Neill" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FireFox crash on Print X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 23:25:11 -0000 Dan Finn wrote: > [ root @ stewie : ~] : pkg_info |grep -i firefox > firefox-1.0.1.p_4 Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla > > > On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 15:31:52 -0500, Donald J. O'Neill > wrote: > >>On Thursday 21 October 2004 02:48 pm, Dan Finn wrote: >> >>>same here as well. >>>_______________________________________________ >> >>Why don't you try a fresh cvsup of your ports tree. Then, upgrade to >>firefox-1.0.1.p_4. I think that's pretty much taken care of the >>problem for anyone who's done that. >> >>Don >> >>-- >>Donald J. O'Neill >>donaldj1066@fastmail.fm FWIW, I'm seeing the same problem. aurvandil# pkg_info | grep -i firefox firefox-1.0.1.p_4 Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 30 23:57:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B131616A4CE for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 23:57:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from darkness-is.com (adsl247-146.incentre.net [207.216.247.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D55B43D49 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 23:57:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cculver@darkness-is.com) Received: from darknessws1 (adsl247-142.incentre.net [207.216.247.142]) by darkness-is.com (darkness-is.com [207.216.247.146]) (MDaemon.PRO.v6.8.5.R) with ESMTP id 7-md50000000050.tmp for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2004 17:54:26 -0600 From: "Clay" To: "'Emanuel Strobl'" , Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 17:56:49 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AcS+1o2IQrdDirQrQ5WEiTLF5XGqmQABXBFA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: <200410310119.23173.Emanuel.Strobl@gmx.net> X-MDRemoteIP: 207.216.247.142 X-Return-Path: cculver@darkness-is.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,IN_REP_TO,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-Spam-Report: ---- Start SpamAssassin results 3.10 points, 5 required; Message preview: Content analysis details: IN_REP_TO (-0.5 points) Has a In-Reply-To header quoted email textMS Outlookisn't ---- End SpamAssassin results X-Spam-Processed: darkness-is.com, Sat, 30 Oct 2004 17:54:31 -0600 Message-Id: <20041030235733.2D55B43D49@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Subject: RE: Slow Startup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 23:57:33 -0000 -----Original Message----- > From: Emanuel Strobl [mailto:Emanuel.Strobl@gmx.net] > Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 5:19 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Cc: Clay > Subject: Re: Slow Startup > > Am Sonntag, 31. Oktober 2004 01:14 schrieb Clay: > > Hi, > > > > > > > > Well after getting the last problem solved, I have noticed that > > the FreeBSD machine starts up slowly. By this I mean, when it gets to > > starting common daemons it just hangs for roughly half hour. It will not go > > past this spot, and it just sits there, then after time I get the login > > Hardly imaginable, it seems you have a serios nameserver problem. Have you > tried whil wou see the "hang"? It should skip the rc step. But > please at least tell us what version you're using! > > -Mano > > > prompt to which I am able to login and then do things in the shell. > > > > > > > > I have noticed this a few other times when I was first > > installing FreeBSD on the machine, and never thought much of it as I always > > had other things to do. Now that I am able to devote time to getting the > > server setup, I find it hard to get things done when rebooting then waiting > > such a long time to log back in after a reboot. > > > > > > > > Clay > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Woops 4.10 Release and yes CTRL-C doesn't skip past it. Name server issue though I can check in to as there is more than one I can use. Clay