From owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 11:01:51 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9380316A4D8 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 11:01:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E30943D41 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 11:01:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (peter@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6JB1pFK015496 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 11:01:51 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i6JB1o46015490 for freebsd-small@freebsd.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 11:01:50 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 11:01:50 GMT Message-Id: <200407191101.i6JB1o46015490@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.org Subject: Current problem reports assigned to you X-BeenThere: freebsd-small@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Dedicated and Embedded Systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 11:01:51 -0000 Current FreeBSD problem reports Critical problems Serious problems Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2000/01/04] misc/15876 small PicoBSD message of the day problems o [2001/06/18] misc/28255 small picobsd documentation still references ol o [2002/09/13] kern/42728 small many problems in src/usr.sbin/ppp/* afte o [2003/01/12] misc/46998 small [patch] Support PicoBSD source in other l o [2003/05/14] misc/52255 small picobsd build script fails under FreeBSD o [2003/05/14] misc/52256 small picobsd build script does not read in use 6 problems total. From owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 19 13:31:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2010816A4CE for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 13:31:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from parati.mdbrasil.com.br (parati.mdbrasil.com.br [200.210.70.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BFD8243D4C for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 13:31:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jmelo@FreeBSDBrasil.COM.BR) Received: (qmail 73837 invoked by uid 0); 19 Jul 2004 13:32:20 -0000 Received: from jmelo@FreeBSDBrasil.COM.BR by parati.mdbrasil.com.br by uid 82 with qmail-scanner-1.20rc1 (uvscan: v4.1.60/v4288. Clear:RC:1:. Processed in 0.093327 secs); 19 Jul 2004 13:32:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO offset.freebsdbrasil.com.br) (200.167.244.39) by parati.mdbrasil.com.br with SMTP; 19 Jul 2004 10:32:19 -0300 Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 10:41:02 -0300 (BRT) From: Jean Milanez Melo To: "Chad R. Larson" Message-ID: <20040719104018.R735@offset.freebsdbrasil.com.br> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: small@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD embedded: TinyBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-small@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Dedicated and Embedded Systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 13:31:40 -0000 On Fri, 16 Jul 2004, Chad R. Larson wrote: > Did you guys look at the m0n0BSD project? It seems to cover most of > your objections. > > http://www.m0n0.ch/bsd/ > Yes, its a good project, but they dont have build scripts and end-user helping tools such dialog-based menus. We would like that the interested parties make tests and then report bug, sends sugestions to improve the TinyBSD. See our TODO list for future versions: o CREATE TINYBSD DEFAULT CONF HIERARCHY Doing cat >> ${WORKDIR}/etc/rc.conf << EORCCONF is not a good thing, 'cos many users may wish to pre-configure a lot of other files (say, resolv.conf, hosts, usr/local/etc/dhcpd.conf, etc), so we should make tinybsd.sh look for some default configuration paths, if files exists there, overwrite/create it instead of using the default (created on tinybsd build) This should be similar to picobsd floppy.tree, but we won't have the floppy.tree / mfs_tree distinction needed. Also, for tinybsd we are not sure (opinions' welcome) if it should be *only* a conf tree hierarchy (say, only valid for files in etc/ and usr/local/etc) or a complete hierarchy replacement (everything under this directory will be replaced/placed on ${WORKDIR}/according to the path) o DISTINCT MANY PRE-CONFIGURED TINYBSD SYSTEMS Make a /usr/src/release/tinybsd/conf directory, where everthing there must be other directories where pre-configure tiny beastie systems will be held. All files required by tinybsd.sh should be there, in such a way tinybsd.sh finds it according to the pre-configured system. Say, we might have (usually under /usr/src/release/): tinybsd/conf/default-system tinybsd/conf/default-system/TINYBSD tinybsd/conf/default-system/tinybsd.basefiles tinybsd/conf/wireless-router tinybsd/conf/wireless-router/TINYBSD tinybsd/conf/wireless-router/tinybsd.basefiles At a first level, tinybsd/tinybsd.sh should build tinybsd/conf/default-system as its default behavior. Optionally the user may issue a sixth argumento to tinybsd.sh where $6 will be the desired pre-configured system (not the entire path). o MAKE TINYBSD A DIALOG(1) SCRIPT I feel unsure if it is a good idea. At first look, it is interesting and specially easy for newcomers, but when you start to customize the system a lot different from what the initial script builds, dialog just sux. See most LiveCD scripts (FUG-BR's livecd and GUFI's freesbie), and specially the lessons learn from picobsd. Hardly any long-time picobsd user runs it in dialog mode (picobsd -n -v switchs are just cool!). I would not like to make tinybsd.sh able to run in dialog interactive mode and also non-interactive mode (just like picobsd's -n). I think tiny beastie should be only one thing! A dialog script, or a command-line shell script. The good thing on dialog is that the tinybsd/conf/ idea would be easier. This tool could scan tinybsd/conf/ for directories containing all required files and allow the user to choose what to build from a dialog(1) menu. This issue will be kept open until good discussions get had. o ADD DEBUGGING MODE I really like picobsd's "-v -v" behavior. Step-by-step routines with good verbosy log messages are cool for debugging. Maybe it should be done even before the dialog(1) decision. - Jean Milanez Melo From owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 23 05:34:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B0F116A4D1 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 05:34:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from postino3.prima.com.ar (postino3.prima.com.ar [200.42.0.148]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DB77D43D53 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 05:34:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from minikestausado@ciudad.com.ar) Received: (qmail 53098 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2004 05:34:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO equipo) (200.42.119.207) by postino3.prima.com.ar with SMTP; 23 Jul 2004 05:34:04 -0000 Message-ID: <001501c47076$b01c8f10$cf772ac8@equipo> From: "minikestausado" To: Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 02:34:11 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: need some help with picoBSD internet connection X-BeenThere: freebsd-small@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Dedicated and Embedded Systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 05:34:09 -0000 hi...I was SO happy when I fund this small BSD version, 'cause I was = looking around an unix-based OS to try apart windows.. but I cannot = connect to the internet with this little BSD version..=20 I make the connection thru a modem device, and I download the modem = version of pico; I follow exaclty all of the instuctions to configure = the ppp stuff (with the dialup script) but when I finish and try to = connect, I only get an error message like this: // usr interfase=3Dtun0 child failed. //=20 I thought bsd wasn't recognizing my modem (docked at com3 -- 2 on bsd), = so I swap the port number (0,1and 2) but but the result were always the = same. The only difference I saw is, when I set it in #2 -the 'right one'- it = takes a few seconds to return the error message (don't know if in that = time the system is 'searching' the modem), and when I set the number to = another port, the error message is instantaneously. Do you have any idea what's going on? -my modem is NOT a winmodem. Can anybody teach me how to 'search the modem by my own' in BSD and tell = the system: 'hey, you! here is the modem..' or something like that? please, help me!! I really want to use this OS ..and adopt it as my main = system =20 thanks in advance... Jp.