From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 00:03:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69B7B16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 00:03:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 036D343D48 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 00:03:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-stable@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BZISd-000415-00 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 02:02:55 +0200 Received: from ns-ilmail3.ns-systems.com ([62.90.139.134]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 02:02:55 +0200 Received: from haim by ns-ilmail3.ns-systems.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 02:02:55 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Haim Ashkenazi Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 03:02:52 +0300 Lines: 41 Message-ID: References: <40CB2BC2.4070201@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ns-ilmail3.ns-systems.com User-Agent: Pan/0.14.2.91 (As She Crawled Across the Table (Debian GNU/Linux)) Sender: news Subject: Re: keeping my freebsd secure... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 00:03:08 -0000 On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 12:13:54 -0400, Chuck Swiger wrote: > Haim Ashkenazi wrote: >> 1. I need to follow the security advisories to see if there are >> vulnerabilities in the base system (I didn't find any regarding 4.10, am I >> right?) > > It's certainly a good idea, yes. There's a list just for security > announcements, although anyone who follows CERT or bugtrak or other security > lists are likely to see issues appear from various places. > > Decide whether to follow RELENG_4 or RELENG_4_10. this is another thing I'm confused about. if I stay with RELENG_4_10, would I get security updates? does this also affect the ports? [ ... ] >> how do I update my ports without breaking anything and without downtime >> for important services (apache, mysql, etc...)? the one port I >> installed from pre-compiled binary (screen) took 99% cpu, and I had to >> compile it so it'll work ok. so how do I upgrade any of the above >> daemons without having to uninstall -> compile -> reinstall (which >> takes a long time). > > portupgrade does "compile -> uninstall -> reinstall", which interrupts > the affected software only for a few seconds. Note that it might still > be a good idea to shutdown and restart the service yourself directly. I've tried to upgrade with portupgrade the three packages that according to portaudit have problems (mc, png, mysql-client). the response was that there's no need to upgrade (version stays the same). do I stay with these versions and try to upgrade every day (until a fix will be released) or is there some setting I have to change in order to access a newer version? [...] sorry if these are basic questions, I'm sure that I can find all the answers on the web but as I said before, I have to make this server up and running in 2 days and I want at least to keep it safe... thanx -- Haim From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 01:23:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A66516A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 01:23:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.sharmannetworks.com (andromeda.lef.com.au [210.8.93.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32CDF43D39 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 01:23:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: from [192.168.1.129] ([192.168.1.129]) by mail.sharmannetworks.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 13 Jun 2004 11:22:31 +1000 Message-ID: <40CBAC5A.4050507@meijome.net> Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 11:22:34 +1000 From: Norberto Meijome User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040608 X-Accept-Language: en-au, en, es, es-ar MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Haim Ashkenazi References: <40CB2BC2.4070201@mac.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Jun 2004 01:22:31.0532 (UTC) FILETIME=[E608D2C0:01C450E4] cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: keeping my freebsd secure... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 01:23:11 -0000 > I've tried to upgrade with portupgrade the three packages that according > to portaudit have problems (mc, png, mysql-client). the response was that > there's no need to upgrade (version stays the same). do I stay with these > versions and try to upgrade every day (until a fix will be released) or is > there some setting I have to change in order to access a newer version? > [...] Your ports directory hasn't been updated. Portupgrade will check what you have installed against the metadata in the port directory and decide whether to upgrade or not. > sorry if these are basic questions, I'm sure that I can find all the > answers on the web but as I said before, I have to make this server > up and running in 2 days and I want at least to keep it safe... check the section in the FreeBSD handbook about keepiny your system up to date with cvsup. You should do this both for your ports collection and your source tree (to patch/upgrade it, as it is independent of the port system). Here, you will also have to decide whether to follow -STABLE or -CURRENT. Best, Beto From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 03:45:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF9E716A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 03:45:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pa-risc.bsdrox.com (pcp01484402pcs.frncht01.de.comcast.net [68.83.70.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6419B43D45 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 03:45:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@bsdrox.com) Received: from YOGI.uxdomain.info (yogi.uxdomain.info [172.16.10.4]) by pa-risc.bsdrox.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i5D3aRmD008035 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2004 23:36:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [172.16.40.123] ([172.16.40.123]) by YOGI.uxdomain.info with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Sat, 12 Jun 2004 23:51:59 -0400 From: Charlie & To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 23:28:41 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200406122328.41024.root@bsdrox.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Jun 2004 03:51:59.0946 (UTC) FILETIME=[C7A032A0:01C450F9] Subject: update sendmail on freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: root@bsdrox.com List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 03:45:52 -0000 Hi, Anyone know of an article or webpage that has a good howto on updating the current version of sendmail other than the handbook? Thanks, From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 06:47:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B23C816A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 06:47:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pa-risc.bsdrox.com (pcp01484402pcs.frncht01.de.comcast.net [68.83.70.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B5BD43D1F for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 06:47:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@bsdrox.com) Received: from YOGI.uxdomain.info (yogi.uxdomain.info [172.16.10.4]) by pa-risc.bsdrox.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i5D6cnmD008214 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 02:38:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [172.16.40.123] ([172.16.40.123]) by YOGI.uxdomain.info with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Sun, 13 Jun 2004 02:54:22 -0400 From: dan To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 02:30:46 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200406130230.46075.root@bsdrox.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Jun 2004 06:54:22.0591 (UTC) FILETIME=[41F350F0:01C45113] Subject: Nvidia card memory usage info? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: root@bsdrox.com List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 06:47:41 -0000 Anyone know of a program or something in the freebsd OS 4.10 stable could tell me how much memory is currently being used on my asus geeforce 256 card? What I am trying to find out is exactly how much memory X is using from my vid card if any at all. Thanks, - Dan From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 07:26:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45D2516A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 07:26:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.su29.ru (mx0.mail.su29.ru [81.200.3.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BEAA43D41 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 07:26:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tdn@sumail.ru) Received: from drweb by mail.su29.ru with drweb-scanned (Exim 4.34; FreeBSD) id 1BZPMn-000Gvg-Nh for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 11:25:21 +0400 Received: from host-81.200.0.210.su29.ru ([81.200.0.210] helo=10.10.10.10) by mail.su29.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.34; FreeBSD) id 1BZPMn-000GvX-Fj for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 11:25:21 +0400 Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 11:25:21 +0400 From: dimAS X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1149839970.20040613112521@sumail.ru> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: DrWEB for Exim at mail.su29.ru Subject: +subscribe X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: dimAS List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 07:26:43 -0000 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 07:33:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 915C516A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 07:33:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7CD343D1F for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 07:33:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-stable@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BZPS0-0001EF-00 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 09:30:44 +0200 Received: from ns-ilmail3.ns-systems.com ([62.90.139.134]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 09:30:44 +0200 Received: from haim by ns-ilmail3.ns-systems.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 09:30:44 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Haim Ashkenazi Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 10:30:39 +0300 Lines: 34 Message-ID: References: <40CB2BC2.4070201@mac.com> <40CBAC5A.4050507@meijome.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ns-ilmail3.ns-systems.com User-Agent: Pan/0.14.2.91 (As She Crawled Across the Table (Debian GNU/Linux)) Sender: news Subject: Re: keeping my freebsd secure... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 07:33:09 -0000 On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 11:22:34 +1000, Norberto Meijome wrote: > >> I've tried to upgrade with portupgrade the three packages that according >> to portaudit have problems (mc, png, mysql-client). the response was that >> there's no need to upgrade (version stays the same). do I stay with these >> versions and try to upgrade every day (until a fix will be released) or is >> there some setting I have to change in order to access a newer version? >> [...] > > Your ports directory hasn't been updated. Portupgrade will check what > you have installed against the metadata in the port directory and decide > whether to upgrade or not. > >> sorry if these are basic questions, I'm sure that I can find all the >> answers on the web but as I said before, I have to make this server >> up and running in 2 days and I want at least to keep it safe... > > check the section in the FreeBSD handbook about keepiny your system up > to date with cvsup. You should do this both for your ports collection > and your source tree (to patch/upgrade it, as it is independent of the > port system). Here, you will also have to decide whether to follow > -STABLE or -CURRENT. does the -STABLE branch on the ports offer all the security fixes (the example file use -CURRENT)? I remember reading somewhere that the -CURRENT ports are not guaranteed to compile under stable system. btw, I have an old book "The complete FreeBSD" which I bought about 4 years ago (when I thought of trying freeBSD. I didn't use it then because I couldn't make it recognize my ISDN). is it still relevant? -- Haim From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 07:57:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F7A416A4D1 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 07:57:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from regina.plastikos.com (216-107-106-250.wan.networktel.net [216.107.106.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CD4043D4C for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 07:57:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fullermd@over-yonder.net) Received: from mortis.over-yonder.net (adsl-19-150-219.jan.bellsouth.net [68.19.150.219]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by regina.plastikos.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1977A6EEB9; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 03:55:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mortis.over-yonder.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id 054F520F22; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 02:55:21 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 02:55:21 -0500 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: Haim Ashkenazi Message-ID: <20040613075521.GA15566@over-yonder.net> References: <40CB2BC2.4070201@mac.com> <40CBAC5A.4050507@meijome.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Editor: vi X-OS: FreeBSD User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i-fullermd.2 cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: keeping my freebsd secure... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 07:57:08 -0000 On Sun, Jun 13, 2004 at 10:30:39AM +0300 I heard the voice of Haim Ashkenazi, and lo! it spake thus: > > does the -STABLE branch on the ports offer all the security fixes > (the example file use -CURRENT)? I remember reading somewhere that > the -CURRENT ports are not guaranteed to compile under stable > system. There are no branches of the ports tree. Some ports have some conditionalization on the OS version, but they're the same ports. -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fullermd@over-yonder.net Systems/Network Administrator | http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/ "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, is because I haven't figured out how to light the middle yet" From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 08:50:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD05316A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 08:50:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail08.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net (mail08.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net [159.134.118.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1FD3643D41 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 08:50:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: (qmail 63407 messnum 2613235 invoked from network[159.134.255.127/159-134-255-127.as1.nas.naas.eircom.net]); 13 Jun 2004 08:42:28 -0000 Received: from 159-134-255-127.as1.nas.naas.eircom.net (HELO localhost) (159.134.255.127) by mail08.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net (qp 63407) with SMTP; 13 Jun 2004 08:42:28 -0000 Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 09:42:26 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: Haim Ashkenazi Message-Id: <20040613094226.3ed54c60.steve@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: References: <40CB2BC2.4070201@mac.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.11 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.10) X-Face: %]+HVL}K`P8>+8ZcY-WGHP6j@&mxMo9JH6_WdgIgUGH)JX/usO0%jy7T~IVgqjumD^OBqX,Kv^-GM6mlw(fI^$"QRKyZ$?xx/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: keeping my freebsd secure... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 08:50:02 -0000 On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 03:02:52 +0300 Haim Ashkenazi wrote: HA> this is another thing I'm confused about. if I stay with RELENG_4_10, HA> would I get security updates? does this also affect the ports? If you stay with RELENG_4_10 you will get *only* security updates to the base system. Upgrading the base system does nothing at all to the ports which are maintained separately and not branched. To upgrade the ports you have to update your ports tree (with cvsup) and use portupgrade or do it by hand which is no fun at all. There is no way of getting only security changes for the ports, mainly because the ports are really only canned build/install instructions for third party applications most of which do not separate security changes from feature changes and bug fixes. It would be nice if there were a set of tested reliable and secure open source applications available, maintaining such a set would be a major project in its own right. It would probably need a shadow CVS (or similar) repository for each application and enough skilled people to audit and test each and every change against an ever growing regression and security test suite. Such an effort would most likely lag behind the main development badly and/or generate forks. The alternative, and current practice, is to depend on the main development teams of each application to do the best they can and track their releases. -- C:>WIN | Solar Thermal Systems The computer obeys and wins. | http://www.soleire.com/ You lose and Bill collects. | Directable Mirror Arrays | http://www.sohara.org/ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 11:56:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C980616A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 11:56:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.broadpark.no (mail.broadpark.no [217.13.4.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5477343D48 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 11:56:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no) Received: from kg-work.kg4.no (68.80-202-174.nextgentel.com [80.202.174.68]) by mail.broadpark.no (Postfix) with SMTP id 3DC1C3C68 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 13:56:22 +0200 (MEST) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 13:55:34 +0200 From: Torfinn Ingolfsen To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20040613135534.2aececc3.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> In-Reply-To: <200406122328.41024.root@bsdrox.com> References: <200406122328.41024.root@bsdrox.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.11 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.9) X-Face: "t9w2,-X@O^I`jVW\sonI3.,36KBLZE*AL[y9lL[PyFD*r_S:dIL9c[8Y>V42R0"!"yb_zN,f#%.[PYYNq;m"_0v;~rUM2Yy!zmkh)3&U|u!=T(zyv,MHJv"nDH>OJ`t(@mil461d_B'Uo|'nMwlKe0Mv=kvV?Nh@>Hb<3s_z2jYgZhPb@?Wi^x1a~Hplz1.zH Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: update sendmail on freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 11:56:21 -0000 Hello Charlie Root, (change your name, perhaps?) On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 23:28:41 -0400 Charlie & wrote: > Hi, > Anyone know of an article or webpage that has a good howto on updating > the current version of sendmail other than the handbook? How about 'portinstall -R postfix' ? -- Torfinn Ingolfsen, Norway From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 14:41:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C76A16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 14:41:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bunrab.catwhisker.org (adsl-63-193-123-122.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.193.123.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DA1843D2D for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 14:41:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from bunrab.catwhisker.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i5DEfdUQ000713 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 07:41:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david@bunrab.catwhisker.org) Received: (from david@localhost) by bunrab.catwhisker.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i5DEfdfg000712 for stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 07:41:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 07:41:39 -0700 (PDT) From: David Wolfskill Message-Id: <200406131441.i5DEfdfg000712@bunrab.catwhisker.org> To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: ld-elf.so.1: assert failed: /usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/i386/reloc.c:232 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 14:41:57 -0000 This doesn't look good.... Every couple of weeks, I upgrade my two "production" machines here at home to a freshly-built -STABLE -- after having tracked -STABLE daily, both on my laptop and on the "build" machine (neither of which is one of the "production" ones). For over 2.5 years, this has worked well. Today, I had no problem with one of them (internal mail; externally- visible Web server), but the firewall box behaved oddly, and on reboot, displayed the message in the Subject when I logged in: ld-elf.so.1: assert failed: /usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/i386/reloc.c:232 Looking at the code in question has not helped illuminate the situation: 221 /* Process the PLT relocations. */ 222 int 223 reloc_plt(Obj_Entry *obj) 224 { 225 const Elf_Rel *rellim; 226 const Elf_Rel *rel; 227 228 rellim = (const Elf_Rel *)((char *)obj->pltrel + obj->pltrelsize); 229 for (rel = obj->pltrel; rel < rellim; rel++) { 230 Elf_Addr *where; 231 232 assert(ELF_R_TYPE(rel->r_info) == R_386_JMP_SLOT); 233 234 /* Relocate the GOT slot pointing into the PLT. */ 235 where = (Elf_Addr *)(obj->relocbase + rel->r_offset); 236 *where += (Elf_Addr)obj->relocbase; 237 } 238 return 0; 239 } (That's a cut/paste from src/libexec/rtld-elf/i386/reloc.c 1.6.2.2, dated 2002/06/16 20:02:09 dillon.) Now, the machine runs headless -- always has, since I set it up. The saving grace is that I flip between bootable slices; gong back to slice 1 and logging in, I see: |d146(4.10-S)[1] _ssh admin@janus |Last login: Sun Jun 13 06:54:27 2004 from d146.catwhisker |Copyright (c) 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1990, 1991, 1993, 1994 | The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. | |FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE (JANUS) #68: Sun May 30 05:38:48 PDT 2004 | |Welcome to FreeBSD! | |Before seeking technical support, please use the following resources: | |o Security advisories and updated errata information for all releases are | at http://www.FreeBSD.org/releases/ - always consult the ERRATA section | for your release first as it's updated frequently. | |o The Handbook and FAQ documents are at http://www.FreeBSD.org/ and, | along with the mailing lists, can be searched by going to | http://www.FreeBSD.org/search/. If the doc distribution has | been installed, they're also available formatted in /usr/share/doc. | |If you still have a question or problem, please take the output of |`uname -a', along with any relevant error messages, and email it |as a question to the questions@FreeBSD.org mailing list. If you are |unfamiliar with FreeBSD's directory layout, please refer to the hier(7) |man page. If you are not familiar with man pages, type `man man'. | |You may also use /stand/sysinstall to re-enter the installation and |configuration utility. Edit /etc/motd to change this login announcement. | |janus(4.10-S)[1] | | If I boot from the newly-built-and-installed kernel & world, I see: |d146(4.10-S)[1] _ssh admin@janus |Last login: Sun Jun 13 06:51:46 2004 from d146.catwhisker |Copyright (c) 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1990, 1991, 1993, 1994 | The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. | |FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE (JANUS) #69: Sun Jun 13 06:04:04 PDT 2004 |ld-elf.so.1: assert failed: /usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/i386/reloc.c:232 |janus(4.10-S)[1] | I have placed a copy of the kernel config at http://www.catwhisker.org/~david/FreeBSD/debug/JANUS, in case that may prove of interest. It was last updated 02 Nov 2002. One possibly-salient bit of information is that the CPUs aren't all the same type. (Thus, I avoid CPU-specific optimizations -- at least, that is my intent!) What I have: * Build machine: 2x876 MHz PIII (SMP) CPU: Intel Pentium III (876.40-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x68a Stepping = 10 Features=0x383fbff * Web server: 400 MHz AMD-K6 (UP) CPU: AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor (400.91-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x58c Stepping = 12 Features=0x8021bf AMD Features=0x80000800 * Firewall: 150 MHz P54C (UP) CPU: Pentium/P54C (149.69-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x52c Stepping = 12 Features=0x1bf I admit that the firewall box isn't super-fast, but it's generally adequate for a WAN link (as well as some additional duties. such as NAT). The general approach is on the build machine: * do the usual build world, build/install the kernel, mergemaster -p, install world, mergemaster, reboot. Reality check, "portupgrade -p". Assuming that all went OK: * On each of the 2 production machines: - mount the build machine's /usr/src and /usr/obj read-only on the target boxen; install kernel; mergemaster -p; install world; mergemaster; reboot. Reality check. If OK, "portupgrade -P" (using packages built on build machine when possible). This morning, that last "mergemaster" run on the firewall box got an "Illegal instruction" attempting to issue "chflags -R noschg /var/tmp/temprooot" -- or so I infer because when I saw the "Illegal instruction" message (followed by whines about the directory not being empty), I tried issuing that command manually, and was "rewarded" with a recurrence of the message (and an ineffective command invocation). The Web server appears to be OK: bunrab(4.10-S)[8] uname -a FreeBSD bunrab.catwhisker.org 4.10-STABLE FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE #69: Sun Jun 13 06:04:08 PDT 2004 root@freebeast.catwhisker.org:/common/S1/obj/usr/src/sys/BUNRAB i386 bunrab(4.10-S)[9] And falling back to the previous kernel & world on the firewall seems OK: janus(4.10-S)[2] uname -a FreeBSD janus.catwhisker.org 4.10-STABLE FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE #68: Sun May 30 05:38:48 PDT 2004 root@freebeast.catwhisker.org:/common/S1/obj/usr/src/sys/JANUS i386 janus(4.10-S)[3] Any hints, clues, thoughts, or suggestions? Thanks, david -- David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org I do not "unsubscribe" from email "services" to which I have not explicitly subscribed. Rather, I block spammers' access to SMTP servers I control, and encourage others who are in a position to do so to do likewise. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 15:17:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1417F16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 15:17:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pa-risc.bsdrox.com (pcp01484402pcs.frncht01.de.comcast.net [68.83.70.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A41643D2D for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 15:17:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@bsdrox.com) Received: from YOGI.uxdomain.info (yogi.uxdomain.info [172.16.10.4]) by pa-risc.bsdrox.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i5DEsimD008740 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 10:54:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [172.16.40.123] ([172.16.40.123]) by YOGI.uxdomain.info with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Sun, 13 Jun 2004 11:10:18 -0400 From: dan To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 10:45:54 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <200406122328.41024.root@bsdrox.com> <20040613135534.2aececc3.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> In-Reply-To: <20040613135534.2aececc3.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200406131045.54438.root@bsdrox.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Jun 2004 15:10:18.0598 (UTC) FILETIME=[89E9A860:01C45158] Subject: Re: update sendmail on freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: root@bsdrox.com List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 15:17:36 -0000 On Sunday 13 June 2004 07:55 am, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > Hello Charlie Root, > (change your name, perhaps?) > > On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 23:28:41 -0400 > > Charlie & wrote: > > Hi, > > Anyone know of an article or webpage that has a good howto on updating > > the current version of sendmail other than the handbook? > > How about 'portinstall -R postfix' ? I did - thanks :) - Dan From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 16:57:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F057016A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 16:57:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bunrab.catwhisker.org (adsl-63-193-123-122.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.193.123.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A592443D2D for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 16:57:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from bunrab.catwhisker.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i5DGvPAv001251 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 09:57:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david@bunrab.catwhisker.org) Received: (from david@localhost) by bunrab.catwhisker.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i5DGvPDJ001250 for stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 09:57:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 09:57:25 -0700 (PDT) From: David Wolfskill Message-Id: <200406131657.i5DGvPDJ001250@bunrab.catwhisker.org> To: stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200406131441.i5DEfdfg000712@bunrab.catwhisker.org> Subject: Re: ld-elf.so.1: assert failed: /usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/i386/reloc.c:232 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 16:57:48 -0000 Huh. I tried re-cloning the slice, then re-installing today's -STABLE, and encountered no problems. This time.... janus(4.10-S)[1] uname -a FreeBSD janus.catwhisker.org 4.10-STABLE FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE #69: Sun Jun 13 06:04:04 PDT 2004 root@freebeast.catwhisker.org:/common/S1/obj/usr/src/sys/JANUS i386 janus(4.10-S)[2] Updating the ports now..... Peace, david -- David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org I do not "unsubscribe" from email "services" to which I have not explicitly subscribed. Rather, I block spammers' access to SMTP servers I control, and encourage others who are in a position to do so to do likewise. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 17:51:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 882AD16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 17:51:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freedombi.com (idealso.com [207.179.98.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A23243D31 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 17:51:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from charles@idealso.com) Received: by freedombi.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 15B4472DF3; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 13:51:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from freedombi.com (bugs.idealso.com [192.168.10.108]) by freedombi.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 18357724B2; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 13:51:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 65.144.251.164 (SquirrelMail authenticated user charles) by freedombi.com with HTTP; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 13:51:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <32940.65.144.251.164.1087149074.squirrel@freedombi.com> In-Reply-To: References: <40CB2BC2.4070201@mac.com> <40CBAC5A.4050507@meijome.net> Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 13:51:14 -0400 (EDT) From: "Charles Ulrich" To: "Haim Ashkenazi" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on freedombi.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.6 required=7.0 tests=BAYES_00,PRIORITY_NO_NAME, RCVD_IN_DYNABLOCK,RCVD_IN_NJABL,RCVD_IN_NJABL_DIALUP,RCVD_IN_SORBS autolearn=no version=2.63 cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: keeping my freebsd secure... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 17:51:47 -0000 Haim Ashkenazi said: > btw, I have an old book "The complete FreeBSD" which I bought about 4 > years ago (when I thought of trying freeBSD. I didn't use it then because > I couldn't make it recognize my ISDN). is it still relevant? Much of it should be relevant. It should work great as a starting point, just keep in mind that details here and there might have been changed. This will be especially true if you're using 5.x (which is -CURRENT at this point). Another really good book, in my opinion, is Absolute BSD by Michael Lucas. Charles Ulrich From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 19:54:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 689F616A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 19:54:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.cableone.net (scanmail2.cableone.net [24.116.0.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02F9C43D1F for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 19:54:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kitbsdlists@HotPOP.com) Received: from vixen42.24-119-122-191.cpe.cableone.net (unverified [24.119.122.191]) by smail2.cableone.net (SurgeMail 1.9b) with ESMTP id 5306774 for multiple; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 12:41:14 -0700 Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 14:53:56 -0500 From: Vulpes Velox To: root@bsdrox.com Message-Id: <20040613145356.665255e5@vixen42.24-119-122-191.cpe.cableone.net> In-Reply-To: <200406130230.46075.root@bsdrox.com> References: <200406130230.46075.root@bsdrox.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.11claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.10) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Nvidia card memory usage info? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 19:54:07 -0000 On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 02:30:46 -0400 dan wrote: > Anyone know of a program or something in the freebsd OS 4.10 stable > could tell me how much memory is currently being used on my asus > geeforce 256 card? > > What I am trying to find out is exactly how much memory X is using > from my vid card if any at all. Well I can assure you X is you memory on the gfx card if it is working properly ^_^ Hmm, not aware of any commands to test what it's memory is, but you can check the logs for what the cards memory address and the like are... those should give a good idea of about what it has on it... also it should say during boot time... If you want to know just what the screen is using, just take 3**(note: this assumes 24bit per pixel) and this will give you the number of bytes the screen it self is using. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 21:44:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C22416A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 21:44:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 803D143D2D for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 21:44:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-stable@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BZcmP-0005A5-00 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 23:44:41 +0200 Received: from ns-ilmail3.ns-systems.com ([62.90.139.134]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 23:44:41 +0200 Received: from haim by ns-ilmail3.ns-systems.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 23:44:41 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Haim Ashkenazi Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 00:44:38 +0300 Lines: 55 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ns-ilmail3.ns-systems.com User-Agent: Pan/0.14.2.91 (As She Crawled Across the Table (Debian GNU/Linux)) Sender: news Subject: Re: keeping my freebsd secure... THANX X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 21:44:57 -0000 thanx everyone, you've been very helpful. I just finished upgrading and I now hopefully have a more or less secure system (at least until tomorrow... :). A few thoughts though (in the eyes of a FreeBSD newbie, I'm sure some of these have elegant solution): the upgrading process was a lot of trouble (even after I knew what to do). although portupgrade didn't break anything or cause a long downtime there were (and actually are ) some errors: 1. php4 didn't upgrade because it depends on apache 1.3.29_3 and I just upgraded apache to 1.3.31... this isn't a major problem except the fact that I'm not sure if it'll work ok... 2. apache+mod-ssl changed the starting procedure from '/usr/local/etc/rc.d' to rc.conf (as it said in the UPGRADE file), it didn't say anywhere during the installation that it's restarting apache, so I had to do it myself. this was not a problem cause I knew it was going to be updated, but what if it was upgraded as a dependency? I would have to run portupgrade interactively which takes a long time when you have more then one computer. btw, how do you stop/start a daemon that is run from rc.conf (except from killing it and searching for the arguments in rc.conf, or sending it SIGHUP)? 3. the most annoying thing is that after all the upgrades (apache, mc, and mysql) I get an error every time I boot (or run rc.firewall manually): ----------------------------------- Starting standard daemons: inetd cron sshdnt: not found sendmail-submit sendmail-clientmqueue. Initial rc.i386 initialization:. Configuring syscons: blanktime. Additional ABI support:. Local package initialization:nt: not found Starting apache. ------------------------------------- I'm talking about the "nt: not found" error in the first and next to last lines. I still have to trace where it comes from... (there is the option that it was there before and I didn't notice it). the thing that is most difficult for me to get used to is the idea that no one tested these packages before. I can upgrade a port only to find out it's very buggy (and I find out by getting angry calls from my clients...). anyway, I think I'll buy a newer book and hope it'll clear some issues for me. I would like to get some input though from the experience of those of you who maintain a few different servers (each perform a different task) and all of them serve general public (so I can't just "do it at night"). is it safe? how often did something actually break? etc... again, thanx a lot for your help. -- Haim From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 23:00:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11C2016A4CE; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 23:00:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from access.inet.co.th (access.inet.co.th [203.151.127.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32BF243D55; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 23:00:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pirat@access.inet.co.th) Received: from firak.thai-aec.org (TruPPPv92-230-202.inet.co.th [203.151.230.202]) by access.inet.co.th (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i5DMxrYR032980; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 05:59:56 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from pirat@access.inet.co.th) Received: from firak.thai-aec.org (localhost.thai-aec.org [127.0.0.1]) by firak.thai-aec.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i5DN5qJ3014831; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 06:05:52 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from pirat@access.inet.co.th) Received: (from pirat@localhost) by firak.thai-aec.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i5DN5ndS014830; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 06:05:49 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from pirat@access.inet.co.th) X-Authentication-Warning: firak.thai-aec.org: pirat set sender to pirat@access.inet.co.th using -f Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 06:05:49 +0700 From: pirat To: George Keramidas Message-ID: <20040613230548.GA10249@thai-aec.org> References: <20040610144901.GA16706@thai-aec.org> <20040610234126.GA481@thai-aec.org> <20040611070010.GD2685@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=tis-620 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040611070010.GD2685@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD firak.thai-aec.org 4.10-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.10-RELEASE www-home-page: http://www.thai-aec.org www-FreeBSD-page: http://www.thai.net/makham cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: -current boot bring to db> prompt X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 23:00:53 -0000 On Friday, 11 June 2004 at 10:00:10 +0300, George Keramidas wrote: > Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 10:00:10 +0300 > From: George Keramidas > To: pirat > Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: -current boot bring to db> prompt > > On 2004-06-11 06:41, pirat wrote: > >On Thursday, 10 June 2004 at 21:49:01 +0700, pirat wrote: > >> > > > > now that i can get rid of that harm ltmdm.ko > > once again apologize me for disturbing the lists > > There's, really, no need to apologise. > no sir, i have to do. > The answer you posted, the solution to a problem more common than you > probably think it is (preloading or unloading modules at boot time), is > very probably going to be interesting for a lot of people. > my only reason to follow up. > Agreed, this has already been mentioned in past posts which live in the > the archives now, but you get extra karma points for discovering the > solution yourself *and* posting it as a followup. > frankly speaking or writing, i did by my instinc. after trying a few command at db> prompt, i get back to reboot by reset command. two or three times after reboot, a menu number 6 that i need appear to my eyes. and a few trying once again plus some memories of texts from document or handbook or FAQ suggest me to do sequences of unload/load/boot. sure enough, that brings me to db> prompt during the first 2-3 trying. that machine uname is [inspiron] ~ > uname -a FreeBSD inspiron.thai-aec.org 5.2-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.2-CURRENT #8: Wed Jun 9 15: 01:14 ICT 2004 root@inspiron.thai-aec.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/Inspiron i38 6 [inspiron] ~ > Inspiron is nothing but a copied of GENERIC and replace GENERIC with Inspiron anyway, i need to express my sincere thanks to FreeBSD team, to documentation project team, to the lists and to you too. > Thanks, that was cool :) > > - Giorgos -- with best regards, psr http://www.thai-aec.org http://www.thai.net/makham From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 13 23:51:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3C3716A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 23:51:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from coltrane.babysnakes.org (ns-ilmail3.ns-systems.com [62.90.139.134]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AA1DD43D31 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 23:51:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from haim@babysnakes.org) Received: (qmail 8223 invoked from network); 13 Jun 2004 23:51:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO parker.babysnakes.org) (192.168.0.5) by coltrane.babysnakes.org with SMTP; 13 Jun 2004 23:51:33 -0000 From: Haim Ashkenazi To: Adrian Urquhart In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-Az06dejv7jPf+Rcq4Zbx" Message-Id: <1087170692.20776.16.camel@parker.babysnakes.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 02:51:33 +0300 cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: keeping my freebsd secure... THANX X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 23:51:42 -0000 --=-Az06dejv7jPf+Rcq4Zbx Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2004-06-14 at 01:05, Adrian Urquhart wrote: > On Mon, 14 Jun 2004, Haim Ashkenazi wrote: >=20 > [snip] >=20 > Hi >=20 > Just to add my own general comment to all the fun you've been having.=20 > I've been using FreeBSD since 3.2 and I gave up using the ports to keep=20 > stuff up to date - it just never worked right for me, plus, many of the=20 > ports install things in "non-standard" places - in fact, if I remember,=20 > the Apache port was one of them.=20 >=20 > Instead, I'll install everything from source. I feel it works better and=20 > gives me more control over things, along with a better chance of fixing=20 > stuff if it goes wrong. For example, with Apache, installing it from=20 > source puts everything into /usr/local/apache (of course, you can change=20 > this) by default. >=20 > Maybe I've been using the port management tools incorrectly, but I just=20 > don't have confidence in them. And of course, installing from source=20 > means your system is always up to date as you don't need to wait for=20 > ports to catch up with a new release of something. >=20 > Like everyone else I use CVS to keep the main source tree up to date and > so far that has worked really well. The machines I admin are 500 miles > away so usually I'll CVSup to a single machine, build world and kernels > on it, install its world and kernel, then reboot it to make sure it > comes up Ok. Then, SSH into the build machine and from there SSH in to > the others via their private interfaces. This lets me close the external > interfaces while I install their worlds and kernels over NFS (at LAN > speeds, this doesn't take long) then reboot and off we go. Hopefully. I > always have someone standing by just in case a machine doesn't come > back, and the only time he was needed was when I'd screwed something up. >=20 > The system I admin has machines running Apache, BIND, pure-ftpd,=20 > PostgreSQL, heavily modified qmail system, and a lot of code written by=20 > me (C/C++) (it's a small ISP with several thousand cable users). >=20 > Anyway, best of luck in your ventures - FreeBSD is an excellent server=20 > platform, and I use it as a desktop machine for software development.=20 > Just keep up to date with the advisories and you'll be Ok. Just out of=20 > interest, my choice of Linux would be Gentoo (I'm writing this on a=20 > SPARC64 running Gentoo). Personally I use debian for the last 3 years. I've been using linux for about 7 years as my only desktop, and I've used LinuxPPC (for macs) RedHat, Suse, Mandrake and finally I started using debian and I'm using it until now. I'm using 'stable' for servers and 'unstable' for my desktop. I didn't try gentoo yet... what's you're saying is very disturbing... I only moved to FreeBSD because debian stable releases a new version once in a long time (more then two years now) and my web clients are annoyed with having an "old" php (4.1.2), and since I want security and stability with minimum hassle for my servers I thought FreeBSD would be a good solution. if I need to download and compile application from source (and then having to audit many resources to find about security vulnerabilities and bugs), well, I can do that on debian. no need to spend time learning how to secure and maintain a new operating system... anyway, thanx for your input... --=20 Haim --=-Az06dejv7jPf+Rcq4Zbx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBAzOiEhwMtGgRKzT0RAmioAJ9z/dZNoDvnE8qVKQj35Zshq6sr4gCdFcAZ WJLJmP7pRfzZYgq85U7ruHU= =Cds4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-Az06dejv7jPf+Rcq4Zbx-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 03:32:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6575816A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 03:32:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from msr49.hinet.net (msr49.hinet.net [168.95.4.149]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A033943D48 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 03:32:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from distro.watch@msa.hinet.net) Received: from [192.168.0.187] (61-229-1-119.dynamic.hinet.net [61.229.1.119]) by msr49.hinet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA27990 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 11:32:34 +0800 (CST) From: Ladislav Bodnar Organization: DistroWatch.com To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 11:31:51 +0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <1087170692.20776.16.camel@parker.babysnakes.org> In-Reply-To: <1087170692.20776.16.camel@parker.babysnakes.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200406141131.51215.distro.watch@msa.hinet.net> Subject: Re: keeping my freebsd secure... THANX X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 03:32:53 -0000 On Monday 14 June 2004 07:51, Haim Ashkenazi wrote: > what's you're saying is very disturbing... I only moved to FreeBSD > because debian stable releases a new version once in a long time > (more I am in the same situation as you. But I am wondering - what happens if you just run the installation program from within an existing installation and update the binary packages to the latest release (say, your server is running 4.9, but you want to upgrade to 4.10). Is this a good way of going about upgrading, or am I just completely off my rocko? (I know this doesn't address the issue of security fixes, but at least you could get your PHP up to a newer version). In all honesty, I don't feel confident about upgrading an entire system by compiling from sources. Maybe it's because I've been bitten by upgrade problems on Gentoo, but also because, from whatever little experience I have with FreeBSD, compiling from sources can fail on FreeBSD too. My logic dictates that the binary packages provided with a RELEASE are well-tested, so that everything works together nicely. Why bother with compiling? Anybody cares to comment? From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 04:27:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82DAA16A4D0 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 04:27:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zircon.seattle.wa.us (dsl231-043-165.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0A2AC43D2D for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 04:27:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joe@zircon.seattle.wa.us) Received: (qmail 26804 invoked from network); 14 Jun 2004 04:27:44 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 14 Jun 2004 04:27:44 -0000 From: Joe Kelsey To: Ladislav Bodnar In-Reply-To: <200406141131.51215.distro.watch@msa.hinet.net> References: <1087170692.20776.16.camel@parker.babysnakes.org> <200406141131.51215.distro.watch@msa.hinet.net> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1087187263.465.52.camel@zircon> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 21:27:44 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: keeping my freebsd secure... THANX X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 04:27:45 -0000 On Sun, 2004-06-13 at 20:31, Ladislav Bodnar wrote: > On Monday 14 June 2004 07:51, Haim Ashkenazi wrote: > > what's you're saying is very disturbing... I only moved to FreeBSD > > because debian stable releases a new version once in a long time > > (more > > I am in the same situation as you. But I am wondering - what happens if > you just run the installation program from within an existing > installation and update the binary packages to the latest release (say, > your server is running 4.9, but you want to upgrade to 4.10). Is this a > good way of going about upgrading, or am I just completely off my > rocko? FreeBSD works correctly from SOURCE every single time. > (I know this doesn't address the issue of security fixes, but at least > you could get your PHP up to a newer version). > > In all honesty, I don't feel confident about upgrading an entire system > by compiling from sources. Maybe it's because I've been bitten by > upgrade problems on Gentoo, but also because, from whatever little > experience I have with FreeBSD, compiling from sources can fail on > FreeBSD too. My logic dictates that the binary packages provided with a > RELEASE are well-tested, so that everything works together nicely. Why > bother with compiling? I compile and install from source on a regular basis. I have never installed a binary package except for my first installation from CD-ROM of a 4.0 system, immediately cvsup'd into a -STABLE release compiled from source. I worked for a local ISP with over 500 FreeBSD servers, all done from source. We compiled test machines to generate our own custom system images and then installed on all machines in groups. The problem there comes from keeping the old machines current enough to still work in spite of various security problems. That was a real problem for the old 3.2 machines, but still we were installing 4.5 FreeBSD images while 4.8 was in the release process. When you have a large enough number of machines to keep up, you cannot possibly keep all of the up-to-date. My logic dictates that you have to compile and test your own distributions based on some -RELEASE. Running GENERIC kernels is a loser strategy, so you will have to compile something to get working. /Joe > Anybody cares to comment? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 04:52:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B14416A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 04:52:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from regina.plastikos.com (216-107-106-250.wan.networktel.net [216.107.106.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 583CC43D31 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 04:52:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fullermd@over-yonder.net) Received: from mortis.over-yonder.net (adsl-19-150-219.jan.bellsouth.net [68.19.150.219]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by regina.plastikos.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5D896EEB9; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 00:52:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mortis.over-yonder.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id 7FBEB20F22; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 23:52:05 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 23:52:04 -0500 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: Ladislav Bodnar Message-ID: <20040614045204.GB15566@over-yonder.net> References: <1087170692.20776.16.camel@parker.babysnakes.org> <200406141131.51215.distro.watch@msa.hinet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200406141131.51215.distro.watch@msa.hinet.net> X-Editor: vi X-OS: FreeBSD User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i-fullermd.2 cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: keeping my freebsd secure... THANX X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 04:52:10 -0000 On Mon, Jun 14, 2004 at 11:31:51AM +0800 I heard the voice of Ladislav Bodnar, and lo! it spake thus: > > In all honesty, I don't feel confident about upgrading an entire > system by compiling from sources. Maybe it's because I've been > bitten by upgrade problems on Gentoo, but also because, from > whatever little experience I have with FreeBSD, compiling from > sources can fail on FreeBSD too. My logic dictates that the binary > packages provided with a RELEASE are well-tested, so that everything > works together nicely. Why bother with compiling? > > Anybody cares to comment? The ports INDEX file for 4.10 release lists 10,796 ports. I've got 354 ports installed on my workstation, but let's pretend that an average system will only install 50. That means the number of possible permutations will be approximately 10,746^50 (actually more, since it'd be 10,796 * 10,795 * 10,794 *... but I'm jumping down to 10,746 to lowball it and be easier to calculate). 10,746^50 is a 204 digit number. If we assume that only one out of every million of those combinations is reasonable, that still leaves 3,650,411,396,581,559,362,879,249,467,190,229,597,059,899,426,193,483,642,569,249,585,031,431,662,936,103,076,048,636,266,422,245,971,453,527,168,401,084,361,122,022,674,779,277,721,175,179,289,262,473,970,567,184,765,108,865,603,416,304,860,138,423,380,665,880 possible combinations of packages. I wouldn't call that a problem space that can be reasonable submitted to "well-tested". It comes down to a question of how "well-tested" you want. A new release isn't going to end up in ports until whoever it is that actually writes the program releases a new version. And until whoever maintains the port has satisfied themselves that it doesn't break anything, for whatever level of satisfaction they require. For instance, it's can basically be taken as a given that the version of PHP in the ports tree will NEVER be updated unless it works with Apache. And, while less of a certainty than the above, the chances of Apache being updated and not working with PHP are extremely low as well. The chances of a conflict with PHP and the Apache-frontpage port are probably better, if still small. And so on down the line. Around a release, the ports tree tends to undergo a fairly extensive freeze, which means that there's a higher assurance of obvious problems being fixed. But then, obvious problems tend to get fixed fairly quickly at any other time as well, particularly in common applications. There's not really any more assurance than normal against more subtle interactions. Me, I just pay attention. I watch the lists. I usually don't upgrade things they day after a new version appears. Or even the week after, unless there's some pressing need. If something common is broken, it may well already be fixed by the time I notice it. And I stick my hands in to fix broken things that I come across where necessary. I've never had any major problems along the lines you seem worried about. That doesn't mean you won't, of course. Doesn't mean I won't have a whooper next week, for that matter. But that's what makes life fun 8-} -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fullermd@over-yonder.net Systems/Network Administrator | http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/ "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, is because I haven't figured out how to light the middle yet" From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 05:38:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C01B16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 05:38:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from grouse.mail.pas.earthlink.net (grouse.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.116]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E50B143D39 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 05:38:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rpratt1950@earthlink.net) Received: from user227.net977.fl.sprint-hsd.net ([69.34.142.227] helo=kt.weeble.com) by grouse.mail.pas.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1BZkAr-0002bv-00; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 22:38:25 -0700 Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 01:39:45 -0400 From: Randy Pratt To: Ladislav Bodnar Message-Id: <20040614013945.7fd2e3c1.rpratt1950@earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <200406141131.51215.distro.watch@msa.hinet.net> References: <1087170692.20776.16.camel@parker.babysnakes.org> <200406141131.51215.distro.watch@msa.hinet.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.11 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.10) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org cc: Haim Ashkenazi Subject: Re: keeping my freebsd secure... THANX X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 05:38:29 -0000 On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 11:31:51 +0800 Ladislav Bodnar wrote: > On Monday 14 June 2004 07:51, Haim Ashkenazi wrote: > > what's you're saying is very disturbing... I only moved to FreeBSD > > because debian stable releases a new version once in a long time > > (more > > I am in the same situation as you. But I am wondering - what happens if > you just run the installation program from within an existing > installation and update the binary packages to the latest release (say, > your server is running 4.9, but you want to upgrade to 4.10). Is this a > good way of going about upgrading, or am I just completely off my > rocko? > > (I know this doesn't address the issue of security fixes, but at least > you could get your PHP up to a newer version). > > In all honesty, I don't feel confident about upgrading an entire system > by compiling from sources. Maybe it's because I've been bitten by > upgrade problems on Gentoo, but also because, from whatever little > experience I have with FreeBSD, compiling from sources can fail on > FreeBSD too. My logic dictates that the binary packages provided with a > RELEASE are well-tested, so that everything works together nicely. Why > bother with compiling? > > Anybody cares to comment? I've been using FreeBSD since 2.2.5 and I've never had any issues updating the operating system from sources. The FreeBSD Handbook covers each step of the process so that it is pretty much just follow the instructions. Its really not a hard process but it does require some practice until you get comfortable with the steps. I update my ports on a daily basis. I find its much easier if its done in smaller increments than waiting until you have several hundred applications out of date. Typically, this takes less than an hour each day with no downtime. Sometimes I have to restart applications that may have been running but that's a minor issue. Sometimes there are issues with ports building. If an application fails to build during portupgrade, then the old version is restored. If there are minor issues, I've found the ports people very helpful in pointing me in the right direction to resolve issues. If its a very popular port, chances are that it will be fixed very quickly. I avoid binary updates and packages entirely. I prefer to build in my local environment with the customizations I want. With binaries, you're pretty much limited to what someone else has decided are the defaults. Additionally, you have to wait on someone to build those for you. These limitations don't exist with a source approach. With sources, there is also the option to peruse the sources and make local modifications as you desire. Some people prefer binary updates and they suit their purposes. If you're on a dial-up connection or its a huge application (like Open Office), it might make more sense to use packages. The tools to handle these processes are being improved all the time. They are light years ahead of where they were at in FreeBSD 2.2.5! Granted, it does take some time to learn the tools and the process, but it pays off in the long run. If you stay within the guidlines for building the operating system and ports, then you should have minimal trouble maintaining a stable and secure system. Best regards, Randy -- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 09:42:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED08D16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 09:42:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40D4D43D48 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 09:42:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-stable@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BZnyU-0007Ka-00 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 11:41:54 +0200 Received: from ns-ilmail3.ns-systems.com ([62.90.139.134]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 11:41:54 +0200 Received: from haim by ns-ilmail3.ns-systems.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 11:41:54 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Haim Ashkenazi Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 12:41:52 +0300 Lines: 15 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ns-ilmail3.ns-systems.com User-Agent: Pan/0.14.2.91 (As She Crawled Across the Table (Debian GNU/Linux)) Sender: news Subject: need suggestions for reverse proxy X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 09:42:10 -0000 Hi I'm looking for a reverse proxy for https to protect an IIS server. at the moment I'm using "pound" but then the IIS doesn't recognize where the original request came from so I can't do things like allow,deny from a certain IP or use awstats. It should be able to deal with sessions and load balancing (although at the moment I only have one server but I'll add another one soon). any suggestions? thanx -- Haim From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 10:42:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B816216A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 10:42:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hartley.mintel.co.uk (hartley.mintel.com [213.206.147.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEC2443D54 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 10:42:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jason.thomson@mintel.com) Received: from mintel.com ([10.0.30.90])i5EAfrpb002867; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 11:41:53 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jason.thomson@mintel.com) Message-ID: <40CD80F1.6020107@mintel.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 11:41:53 +0100 From: Jason Thomson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.28 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) cc: vkayshap@amcc.com Subject: 3ware 7506, FreeBSD 4.x, Maxtor Disks & SMART Problems. X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 10:42:11 -0000 We have a number of FreeBSD boxes with 7506 series 3ware controllers (about 10 and about to buy 10 more). We are generally happy with the performance and reliability, but we have a few intermittent, recurring problems. With some of our boxes we are using 300GB / 320GB Maxtor Maxline II disks. Occasionally, a machine with these disks will lock up hard; the 3ware controller has stopped responding. After taking the machine offline, and using MAXTOR PowerMax tools to analyse the disks, it becomes clear that one of the disks has errors. I have suspicions that the Maxtor disks are raising SMART events that are not handled by the FreeBSD 3ware twe driver. Is this a plausible explanation? Is anyone else aware of this issue, and is there anything we can do to solve / work around this problem? (We've tried disabling SMART on the disks - but the 7506 card re-enables it). More information: This is happening on at least 3 machines. The first time it happened, we upgraded to FreeBSD 4.10-PRERELEASE (cvsupped May 4th). This uses the 3ware imported drivers. (We also applied the stability patch posted to the Stable list in a bout of straw clutching). We have since seen the same problem on two additional machines (running 4.9-STABLE from Feb 2nd and April 4th). We haven't yet upgraded these machines - might do soon. I have sent an email to support@3ware.com - no response yet - but I only sent it last Friday. Thanks in advance, Jason. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 11:18:51 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2E6416A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 11:18:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web14106.mail.yahoo.com (web14106.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.136]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6AF2143D46 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 11:18:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cguttesen@yahoo.dk) Message-ID: <20040614111822.1564.qmail@web14106.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [194.248.174.58] by web14106.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 13:18:22 CEST Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 13:18:22 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Claus=20Guttesen?= To: Haim Ashkenazi , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: need suggestions for reverse proxy X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 11:18:51 -0000 > I'm looking for a reverse proxy for https to protect > an IIS server. at the > moment I'm using "pound" but then the IIS doesn't > recognize where the > original request came from so I can't do things like > allow,deny from a > certain IP or use awstats. It should be able to deal > with sessions and > load balancing (although at the moment I only have You may try squid, although I doubt that squid works with https in your setup. Squid needs to know the private keys in order to decrypt the session-info so it can be session-aware. One way to deal with this is to let squid decrypt and pass it on to IIS as cleartext. Squid is capable of removing unwanted URL's. But statefull loadbalancing may not be squids strength. We are using LVS (Linux Virtual Server). Although I would have preferred a BSD-solution, nothing beats LVS in terms of scalability. Had an old 486 with 64 MB RAM, which could handle more than 10.000 unique visitors a day. Claus Yahoo! Mail (http://dk.mail.yahoo.com) - Gratis: 6 MB lagerplads, spamfilter og virusscan From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 12:52:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE03D16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 12:52:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from valentine.liquidneon.com (valentine.liquidneon.com [216.38.206.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E26943D4C for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 12:52:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from so14k@so14k.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by valentine.liquidneon.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7ED641; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 06:52:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from valentine.liquidneon.com ([216.38.206.180]) by localhost (valentine.liquidneon.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 48812-07; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 06:52:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from webmail.liquidneon.com (unknown [216.38.206.180]) by valentine.liquidneon.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6531A30; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 06:52:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from 24.8.51.173 (SquirrelMail authenticated user so14k@so14k.com) by webmail.liquidneon.com with HTTP; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 06:52:52 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <52270.24.8.51.173.1087217572.squirrel@webmail.liquidneon.com> In-Reply-To: <40CD80F1.6020107@mintel.com> References: <40CD80F1.6020107@mintel.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 06:52:52 -0600 (MDT) From: so14k@so14k.com To: "Jason Thomson" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at liquidneon.com cc: vkayshap@amcc.com cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3ware 7506, FreeBSD 4.x, Maxtor Disks & SMART Problems. X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 12:52:56 -0000 > We have a number of FreeBSD boxes with 7506 series 3ware controllers > (about 10 and about to buy 10 more). We are generally happy with the > performance and reliability, but we have a few intermittent, recurring > problems. > > With some of our boxes we are using 300GB / 320GB Maxtor Maxline II disks. > > Occasionally, a machine with these disks will lock up hard; the 3ware > controller has stopped responding. After taking the machine offline, > and using MAXTOR PowerMax tools to analyse the disks, it becomes clear > that one of the disks has errors. > > I have suspicions that the Maxtor disks are raising SMART events that > are not handled by the FreeBSD 3ware twe driver. > > Is this a plausible explanation? > > Is anyone else aware of this issue, and is there anything we can do to > solve / work around this problem? > > (We've tried disabling SMART on the disks - but the 7506 card re-enables > it). > > > > More information: > > This is happening on at least 3 machines. > > The first time it happened, we upgraded to FreeBSD 4.10-PRERELEASE > (cvsupped May 4th). This uses the 3ware imported drivers. (We also > applied the stability patch posted to the Stable list in a bout of straw > clutching). > > We have since seen the same problem on two additional machines (running > 4.9-STABLE from Feb 2nd and April 4th). We haven't yet upgraded these > machines - might do soon. > > I have sent an email to support@3ware.com - no response yet - but I only > sent it last Friday. IIRC, the ATA driver in 4.x (pre ATAng) doesn't support S.M.A.R.T. Unfortunately you'll need to run 5.2-CURRENT for that. Regards, Brad Davis From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 13:06:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3BA616A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 13:06:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx2.mail.ru (mx2.mail.ru [194.67.23.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B84343D5D for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 13:06:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from savchyk@list.ru) Received: from [213.184.239.67] (port=1044 helo=213.184.239.67) by mx2.mail.ru with esmtp id 1BZrA1-000Cxq-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 17:06:02 +0400 Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 16:06:04 +0300 From: "Igor S.Savchyk" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62 Christmas Edition) Organization: CNV-Brest X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <13312261450.20040614160604@list.ru> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam: Not detected Subject: FreeBSD RELENG_4 error?! X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Igor S.Savchyk" List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 13:06:15 -0000 Hello, All! For the beginning there is some comparison of behaviour various of OS: $ echo readable >try_read_me $ chmod 0333 try_read_me $ uname -a SunOS sundae 5.8 Generic_108528-23 sun4u sparc SUNW,Ultra-1 $ cat try_read_me readable $ uname -a SunOS sun 5.8 Generic_108528-13 sun4u sparc $ cat try_read_me cat: try_read_me: Permission denied $ uname -sr FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE $ cat try_read_me readable $ uname -sr FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE $ cat try_read_me cat: try_read_me: Permission denied $ uname -sr Linux 2.4.20-athlon $ cat try_read_me cat: try_read_me: Permission denied $ uname -sr Linux 2.2.19-servers $ cat try_read_me cat: try_read_me: Permission denied $uname -sr HP-UX B.11.11 $ cat try_read_me cat: try_read_me: Permission denied So, whether somebody can explain me behaviour of FreeBSD 4.x ? ;-) ~ If it ain't broke, we've still got a chance to fix it. -- Best regards, Igor mailto:savchyk@list.ru From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 13:40:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7921716A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 13:40:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hartley.mintel.co.uk (hartley.mintel.com [213.206.147.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71DEA43D1F for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 13:40:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jason.thomson@mintel.com) Received: from mintel.com ([10.0.30.90])i5EDddpb003087; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 14:39:47 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jason.thomson@mintel.com) Message-ID: <40CDAA9A.1090507@mintel.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 14:39:38 +0100 From: Jason Thomson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: so14k@so14k.com References: <40CD80F1.6020107@mintel.com> <52270.24.8.51.173.1087217572.squirrel@webmail.liquidneon.com> In-Reply-To: <52270.24.8.51.173.1087217572.squirrel@webmail.liquidneon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.28 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) cc: vkayshap@amcc.com cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3ware 7506, FreeBSD 4.x, Maxtor Disks & SMART Problems. X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 13:40:03 -0000 We're not using the ata driver - it's the twe driver - I believe the SMART events are supposed to be handled by the controller firmware. (Which should then report back to the FreeBSD driver when things go wrong). Hmmm - I've just done a little more research, and it appears that my understanding of SMART is flawed - the drive just makes the information available - and doesn't actively signal the controller. The controller / OS / SMART software has to read the SMART status and then act accordingly. Maybe it's nothing to do with SMART, and instead it's just something wrong with Maxtor disks. Is anyone else aware of problems with Maxtor disks? (I must confess to seeing NMIs raised on a DELL box with the ServerWorks CSB6 Chipset with Maxtor's 160GB drives. I assumed that it was the ATA controller. We worked round it by using slower DMA modes. Maybe it was the disks.) so14k@so14k.com wrote: > > IIRC, the ATA driver in 4.x (pre ATAng) doesn't support S.M.A.R.T. > Unfortunately you'll need to run 5.2-CURRENT for that. > > > Regards, > Brad Davis > > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 15:17:04 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EF8816A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 15:17:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E186C43D41 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 15:17:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from [10.1.1.193] (nfw1.codefab.com [199.103.21.225]) by pi.codefab.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i5EFGVo2081971; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 11:16:35 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <20040612143602.D74026@carver.gumbysoft.com> References: <40CB2BC2.4070201@mac.com> <20040612143602.D74026@carver.gumbysoft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 11:16:30 -0400 To: Doug White X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.5 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on pi.codefab.com cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org cc: Haim Ashkenazi Subject: Re: keeping my freebsd secure... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 15:17:04 -0000 On Jun 12, 2004, at 5:37 PM, Doug White wrote: [ ...with regard to portupgrade handling library dependencies... ] > Note that portupgrade hoards old shared library versions in > /usr/(local/)?lib/compat, so as long as the library version changes, > you won't get bit by these types of incompatible upgrades. Of course, if the reason the library was updated was due to a security problem, having binaries link against the old version means that they are probably vulnerable to whatever the issue is... -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 15:52:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7EF916A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 15:52:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from avscan2.sentex.ca (avscan2.sentex.ca [199.212.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BEE043D1D for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 15:52:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.sentex.ca [127.0.0.1]) by avscan2.sentex.ca (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i5EFqC7O045716; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 11:52:12 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from avscan2.sentex.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (tmp-mdt.sentex.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 45645-01; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 11:52:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lava.sentex.ca (pyroxene.sentex.ca [199.212.134.18]) by avscan2.sentex.ca (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i5EFqC9l045699; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 11:52:12 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from simian.sentex.net (simeon.sentex.ca [192.168.43.27]) by lava.sentex.ca (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i5EFq6iO010524; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 11:52:06 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.0.20040614115317.09400398@64.7.153.2> X-Sender: mdtpop@64.7.153.2 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.1.1 Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 11:54:52 -0400 To: so14k@so14k.com From: Mike Tancsa In-Reply-To: <52270.24.8.51.173.1087217572.squirrel@webmail.liquidneon.c om> References: <40CD80F1.6020107@mintel.com> <52270.24.8.51.173.1087217572.squirrel@webmail.liquidneon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at avscan2b cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3ware 7506, FreeBSD 4.x, Maxtor Disks & SMART Problems. X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 15:52:13 -0000 At 08:52 AM 14/06/2004, so14k@so14k.com wrote: > > I have sent an email to support@3ware.com - no response yet - but I only > > sent it last Friday. > >IIRC, the ATA driver in 4.x (pre ATAng) doesn't support S.M.A.R.T. >Unfortunately you'll need to run 5.2-CURRENT for that. Hi, The 3ware cards use their own drivers (twe for 6xxx,7xxx,8xxx and twa for the 9xxx series cards) and do not use the ata driver at all in either stable or current. ---Mike From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 16:07:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E7BE16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 16:07:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93CA443D2F for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 16:07:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF6AB408A9; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 18:05:26 +0200 (CEST) From: Cordula's Web To: savchyk@list.ru In-reply-to: <13312261450.20040614160604@list.ru> (savchyk@list.ru) X-Mailer: Emacs-21.3.1/FreeBSD-4.10-BETA References: <13312261450.20040614160604@list.ru> Message-Id: <20040614160526.AF6AB408A9@fw.farid-hajji.net> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 18:05:26 +0200 (CEST) cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD RELENG_4 error?! X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: cpghost@cordula.ws List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 16:07:32 -0000 > $ echo readable >try_read_me > $ chmod 0333 try_read_me $ uname -sr FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE $ cat try_read_me cat: try_read_me: Permission denied Seems to be fixed. > $ uname -sr > FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE > $ cat try_read_me > readable -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 16:30:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3B4C16A4D0 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 16:30:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mandarin.fruitsalad.org (pc117.net160.koping.net [81.16.160.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D76F43D60 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 16:30:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@hasta.se) Received: from [192.168.15.68] (helo=fmd) by mandarin.fruitsalad.org with smtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1BZuLM-000NEb-I5; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 18:29:56 +0200 From: "Matt Douhan" To: "Jason Thomson" , Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 18:29:54 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 In-Reply-To: <40CDAA9A.1090507@mintel.com> Importance: Normal cc: vkayshap@amcc.com cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: SV: 3ware 7506, FreeBSD 4.x, Maxtor Disks & SMART Problems. X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 16:30:23 -0000 >-----Ursprungligt meddelande----- >Fran: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org]For Jason Thomson >Skickat: den 14 juni 2004 15:40 >Till: so14k@so14k.com >Kopia: vkayshap@amcc.com; freebsd-stable@freebsd.org >Amne: Re: 3ware 7506, FreeBSD 4.x, Maxtor Disks & SMART Problems. > > >We're not using the ata driver - it's the twe driver - I believe the >SMART events are supposed to be handled by the controller firmware. > >(Which should then report back to the FreeBSD driver when things go wrong). > >Hmmm - I've just done a little more research, and it appears that my >understanding of SMART is flawed - the drive just makes the information >available - and doesn't actively signal the controller. The controller >/ OS / SMART software has to read the SMART status and then act accordingly. > >Maybe it's nothing to do with SMART, and instead it's just something >wrong with Maxtor disks. > >Is anyone else aware of problems with Maxtor disks? Hi We are running 160 GB Maxtors on our 3ware controllers and they all run great under heavy load, we use 3ware ATA for our main 1.2 TB NFS arrays at fruitsalad.org and I have never seen what you are describing even under failure conditions it has worked great until we have downed the server and installed a new HDD, and the rebuild of the array has been done during prodution hours with the standard slowdown cause of the rebuilding. BUt if you are looking to get new controllers I would HIGHLY recommend the 3ware SATA controllers, they rock bigtime and I cannot tell you enough how happy we are with them, and the performance is absolutely outstanding, we are seing similar or better results from our 3ware SATA controllers when we compare them towards our storageworks HG* controllers, the largest servers we have are running 3 3ware SATA controllers, for a total ov 24 HD's and at max speed the I/O is just tremendous. rgds Matt From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 17:11:17 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6281216A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 17:11:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from conure.mail.pas.earthlink.net (conure.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46EFD43D4C for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 17:11:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rpratt1950@earthlink.net) Received: from user227.net977.fl.sprint-hsd.net ([69.34.142.227] helo=kt.weeble.com) by conure.mail.pas.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1BZuzK-0005i9-00; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 10:11:14 -0700 Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 13:12:36 -0400 From: Randy Pratt To: "Igor S.Savchyk" Message-Id: <20040614131236.63bd2859.rpratt1950@earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <13312261450.20040614160604@list.ru> References: <13312261450.20040614160604@list.ru> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.11 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.10) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD RELENG_4 error?! X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 17:11:17 -0000 On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 16:06:04 +0300 "Igor S.Savchyk" wrote: > Hello, All! > > For the beginning there is some comparison of behaviour various of OS: > > > $ echo readable >try_read_me > $ chmod 0333 try_read_me > [ snip other OS's ] > $ uname -sr > FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE > $ cat try_read_me > readable [ snip more OS's ] > > So, whether somebody can explain me behaviour of FreeBSD 4.x ? ;-) I happen to have an old box around so that I could compare your test results: $ uname -sr FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE $ echo readme > try_read_me $ chmod 0333 try_read_me $ cat try_read_me cat: try_read_me: Permission denied I can't duplicate the behavior that you are seeing. It may be a local issue. Do the permissions actually end up as: --wx-wx-wx 1 rpratt rpratt 7 Jun 14 13:00 try_read_me Only root can read that file as the permissions are. An ordinary user should not be able to read it. Are you perhaps testing as root? I see the same correct behavior on 4.10-STABLE too. Best regards, Randy -- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 20:36:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFFFF16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 20:36:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [208.162.254.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C72443D46 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 20:36:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57319B9E2 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 15:36:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (kanga.honeypot.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 95802-09 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 15:36:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from pooh.strauser.com (pooh.honeypot.net [10.0.5.128]) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACFF4B9D6 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 15:36:16 -0500 (CDT) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <13312261450.20040614160604@list.ru> From: Kirk Strauser Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 15:36:08 -0500 In-Reply-To: <13312261450.20040614160604@list.ru> (Igor S. Savchyk's message of "Mon, 14 Jun 2004 16:06:04 +0300") Message-ID: <87brjlj2rr.fsf@strauser.com> Lines: 20 X-Mailer: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at honeypot.net Subject: Re: FreeBSD RELENG_4 error?! X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 20:36:18 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable At 2004-06-14T13:06:04Z, "Igor S.Savchyk" writes: > $ uname -sr > FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE > $ cat try_read_me > readable $ uname -sr FreeBSD 4.9-STABLE $ cat try_read_me cat: try_read_me: Permission denied =2D-=20 Kirk Strauser "94 outdated ports on the box, 94 outdated ports. Portupgrade one, an hour 'til done, 82 outdated ports on the box." --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBAzgxA5sRg+Y0CpvERAheNAJ4yw4h/0eL1CcW3fPfiQ4PayJktqgCfXB2p 8kuUyva3oSQSeeDWzocgR/8= =V2/2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 20:42:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8EFB16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 20:42:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.matrix.com.br (smtp1.matrix.com.br [200.196.28.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F4B543D5A for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 20:42:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from basei@matrix.com.br) Received: from [10.4.1.1] (unknown [201.2.201.95]) by smtp1.matrix.com.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id 319AB31574 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 17:40:29 -0300 (BRT) Message-ID: <40CE0D3E.7000309@matrix.com.br> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 17:40:30 -0300 From: Sidnei Rodrigo Basei User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (Windows/20040502) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: sendmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 20:42:25 -0000 Hi all.. I´ve a problem ******** sidnei@pcclab$ mail myemail@myserver.com Subject: Test This is a test EOT sidnei@pcclab$ collect: Cannot write ./dfi5EKd13I000484 (bfcommit, uid=1027, gid=25): Permission denied queueup: cannot create queue temp file ./tfi5EKd13I000484, uid=1027: Permission denied ********** Could anyone help me? Thank you.. -- BASEI Sidnei Rodrigo From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 20:52:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51AEE16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 20:52:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96F9043D41 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 20:52:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmagda@ee.ryerson.ca) Received: from number6.magda.ca ([67.70.123.62]) by tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.netESMTP <20040614205140.KLOX21087.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@number6.magda.ca>; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 16:51:40 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.132] (gandalf.magda.ca [192.168.1.132]) by number6.magda.ca (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i5EKpZXN001460; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 16:51:35 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dmagda@ee.ryerson.ca) In-Reply-To: References: <40CB2BC2.4070201@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David Magda Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 16:51:36 -0400 To: Haim Ashkenazi X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: keeping my freebsd secure... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: David Magda List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 20:52:24 -0000 On Jun 12, 2004, at 20:02, Haim Ashkenazi wrote: > this is another thing I'm confused about. if I stay with RELENG_4_10, > would I get security updates? does this also affect the ports? For RELENG_4_10 you will only get security fixes (no new features). For more information on how the work release process works: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng/release- proc.html The pictures in section 2.2.1 will show you how the various RELENG_* tags related to one another. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 22:49:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9208A16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 22:49:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out006.verizon.net (out006pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 260E843D1F for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 22:49:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from [192.168.1.3] ([68.161.84.3]) by out006.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20040614224918.ZECS3317.out006.verizon.net@[192.168.1.3]>; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 17:49:18 -0500 Message-ID: <40CE2B6B.3000809@mac.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 18:49:15 -0400 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040608 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <13312261450.20040614160604@list.ru> <20040614131236.63bd2859.rpratt1950@earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <20040614131236.63bd2859.rpratt1950@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out006.verizon.net from [68.161.84.3] at Mon, 14 Jun 2004 17:49:18 -0500 cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org cc: "Igor S.Savchyk" Subject: Re: FreeBSD RELENG_4 error?! X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 22:49:19 -0000 On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 16:06:04 +0300 "Igor S.Savchyk" wrote: >For the beginning there is some comparison of behaviour various of OS: > >$ echo readable >try_read_me >$ chmod 0333 try_read_me My guess is that you were testing as root. For instance, I retried this example under Solaris 2.8, FreeBSD 4.10, and FreeBSD 5.2-CURRENT: 2-pong% echo readable > try_read_me 3-pong% chmod 0333 try_read_me 4-pong% cat try_read_me cat:14: permission denied: try_read_me 5-pong% uname -a SunOS pong 5.8 Generic_117000-03 sun4u sparc SUNW,Ultra-4 Solaris 1-sec% echo readable > try_read_me 2-sec% chmod 0333 try_read_me 3-sec% cat try_read_me cat: try_read_me: Permission denied 4-sec% uname -a FreeBSD sec.pkix.net 4.10-STABLE FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE #2: Thu Jun 10 18:41:59 EDT 2004 root@sec.pkix.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/NORMAL i386 $ echo readable > try_read_me $ chmod 0333 try_read_me $ cat try_read_me cat: try_read_me: Permission denied $ uname -a FreeBSD epia.pkix.net 5.2-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.2-CURRENT #1: Sun May 9 04:56:46 EDT 2004 root@epia.pkix.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/EPIA i386 -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 14 23:23:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F29A16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 23:23:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pa-risc.bsdrox.com (pcp01484402pcs.frncht01.de.comcast.net [68.83.70.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF73243D60 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 23:23:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from root@bsdrox.com) Received: from YOGI.uxdomain.info (yogi.uxdomain.info [172.16.10.4]) by pa-risc.bsdrox.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i5EMtemD010671 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 18:55:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [172.16.40.123] ([172.16.40.123]) by YOGI.uxdomain.info with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 14 Jun 2004 19:11:17 -0400 From: dan To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 18:52:51 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <40CE0D3E.7000309@matrix.com.br> In-Reply-To: <40CE0D3E.7000309@matrix.com.br> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200406141852.51297.root@bsdrox.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jun 2004 23:11:17.0783 (UTC) FILETIME=[E5BD9270:01C45264] Subject: Re: sendmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: root@bsdrox.com List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 23:23:44 -0000 On Monday 14 June 2004 04:40 pm, Sidnei Rodrigo Basei wrote: > Hi all.. I=B4ve a problem > > ******** > sidnei@pcclab$ mail myemail@myserver.com > Subject: Test > This is a test > EOT > sidnei@pcclab$ collect: Cannot write ./dfi5EKd13I000484 (bfcommit, > uid=3D1027, gid=3D25): Permission denied > queueup: cannot create queue temp file ./tfi5EKd13I000484, uid=3D1027: > Permission denied > ********** > > > Could anyone help me? > Thank you.. maybe it has something to do with the permissions on /var/spool/mqueue ? mine is set for drwxr-xr-x . =2D dan From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 15 01:53:05 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C31BF16A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 01:53:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zardoc.esmtp.org (adsl-63-195-85-27.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.195.85.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7461B43D31 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 01:53:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ca+envelope@esmtp.org) Received: from zardoc.esmtp.org (localhost.endmail.org. [127.0.0.1]) by zardoc.esmtp.org (sendmail X.0.0.PreAlpha12) with ESMTP id S00000000407CA66700; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 18:53:39 -0700 Received: (from ca@localhost)i5F1rdel032662 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 14 Jun 2004 18:53:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 18:53:38 -0700 From: Claus Assmann To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040615015338.GA21822@zardoc.esmtp.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <40CE0D3E.7000309@matrix.com.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <40CE0D3E.7000309@matrix.com.br> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: Re: sendmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 01:53:05 -0000 On Mon, Jun 14, 2004, Sidnei Rodrigo Basei wrote: > sidnei@pcclab$ collect: Cannot write ./dfi5EKd13I000484 (bfcommit, > uid=1027, gid=25): Permission denied This is 8.12, right? Please check the permissions as stated in sendmail/SECURITY: -r-xr-sr-x root smmsp ... /PATH/TO/sendmail drwxrwx--- smmsp smmsp ... /var/spool/clientmqueue drwx------ root wheel ... /var/spool/mqueue -r--r--r-- root wheel ... /etc/mail/sendmail.cf -r--r--r-- root wheel ... /etc/mail/submit.cf If that doesn't help, post the permissions for those files/directories, and the output of grep smmsp /etc/passwd /etc/group From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 15 02:28:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35E7116A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 02:28:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from auk1.snu.ac.kr (auk1.snu.ac.kr [147.46.100.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8BF643D2F for ; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 02:28:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stopspam@users.sourceforge.net) Received: from [147.46.44.181] (stopspam@users.sourceforge.net) by auk1.snu.ac.kr (Terrace Internet Messaging Server) with ESMTP id 2004061511:28:27:839121.24301.2529119152 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 11:28:27 +0900 (KST) Message-ID: <40CE5ED4.8070009@users.sourceforge.net> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 11:28:36 +0900 From: Rob User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040507 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-TERRACE-SPAMMARK: NO (SR:0.31) (by Terrace) Subject: USB storage device: hang & reboot X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 02:28:38 -0000 Hi, I know USB is far from perfect on FreeBSD, but just for the record: $ grep -i usb /var/run/dmesg.boot uhci0: port 0xbc00-0xbc1f irq 2 at device 29.0 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhci1: port 0xb000-0xb01f irq 5 at device 29.1 on pci0 usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhci2: port 0xb400-0xb41f irq 6 at device 29.2 on pci0 usb2: on uhci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhci3: port 0xb800-0xb81f irq 2 at device 29.3 on pci0 usb3: on uhci3 usb3: USB revision 1.0 pci0: at 29.7 irq 9 ----- And when I plug in my USB toy, I get in the console: Jun 15 11:15:02 cisr /kernel: umass0: EXATEL , Inc. I-BEAD Multi Player, rev 1.10/0.01, addr 3 Jun 15 11:15:02 cisr /kernel: umass0: Get Max Lun not supported (STALLED) Jun 15 11:15:02 cisr /kernel: da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 Jun 15 11:15:02 cisr /kernel: da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI-4 device Jun 15 11:15:02 cisr /kernel: da0: 650KB/s transfers Jun 15 11:15:02 cisr /kernel: da0: 122MB (249856 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 122C) Jun 15 11:15:20 cisr /kernel: umass0: BBB reset failed, STALLED Jun 15 11:15:20 cisr /kernel: umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, STALLED Jun 15 11:15:20 cisr /kernel: umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, STALLED Jun 15 11:16:25 cisr /kernel: umass0: BBB reset failed, STALLED Jun 15 11:16:25 cisr /kernel: umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, STALLED Jun 15 11:16:25 cisr /kernel: umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, STALLED I then did a # mount_msdos /dev/da0c /mnt which seems to hang. Waited for a while, then tried to kill this, but to no avail. When I plugged it out, the machine did a reboot :(. Regards, Rob. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 15 07:02:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C97916A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 07:02:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from no-carrier.ath.cx (ip194-161.mtl.istop.com [66.11.161.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 151E143D1F for ; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 07:02:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from melange@yip.org) Received: from hate.pox.ca (hate.pox.ca [172.23.0.10]) by vain.pox.ca (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i5F6xJ0N041169 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 02:59:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from melange@yip.org) Received: from yip.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hate.pox.ca (8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i5F6shVc009129 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 02:54:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from melange@yip.org) Message-ID: <40CE9D33.5000507@yip.org> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 02:54:43 -0400 From: Bob K User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040427 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20040604195338.GA50275@blossom.cjclark.org> <200406050821.i558LUtm003296@caligula.anu.edu.au> <20040607202745.GA75747@blossom.cjclark.org> In-Reply-To: <20040607202745.GA75747@blossom.cjclark.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: syslogd(8) Dropping Privs X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 07:02:14 -0000 Crist J. Clark wrote: > I'm thinking of writing a "conversion" script to make the required > changes. I, for one, would be really happy to see this in the ports tree. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 15 08:05:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35A5C16A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 08:05:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fj.batmule.dk (fj.dkuug.dk [195.215.30.71]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59ED443D1D for ; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 08:05:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fj@fj.batmule.dk) Received: from fj.batmule.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fj.batmule.dk (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i5F85C2U004958; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 10:05:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from fj@fj.batmule.dk) Received: (from fj@localhost) by fj.batmule.dk (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id i5F85ChY004957; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 10:05:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from fj) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 10:05:11 +0200 From: Flemming Jacobsen To: Rob Message-ID: <20040615080511.GA4727@fj.batmule.dk> References: <40CE5ED4.8070009@users.sourceforge.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <40CE5ED4.8070009@users.sourceforge.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE i386 X-PGPkey: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xDCC399C7 cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB storage device: hang & reboot X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 08:05:36 -0000 Rob wrote: > And when I plug in my USB toy, I get in the console: > > Jun 15 11:15:02 cisr /kernel: umass0: EXATEL , Inc. I-BEAD Multi Player, > rev 1.10/0.01, addr 3 > Jun 15 11:15:02 cisr /kernel: umass0: Get Max Lun not supported (STALLED) > Jun 15 11:15:02 cisr /kernel: da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > Jun 15 11:15:02 cisr /kernel: da0: Removable Direct > Access SCSI-4 device > Jun 15 11:15:02 cisr /kernel: da0: 650KB/s transfers > Jun 15 11:15:02 cisr /kernel: da0: 122MB (249856 512 byte sectors: 64H > 32S/T 122C) > Jun 15 11:15:20 cisr /kernel: umass0: BBB reset failed, STALLED > Jun 15 11:15:20 cisr /kernel: umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, > STALLED > Jun 15 11:15:20 cisr /kernel: umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, > STALLED > Jun 15 11:16:25 cisr /kernel: umass0: BBB reset failed, STALLED > Jun 15 11:16:25 cisr /kernel: umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, > STALLED > Jun 15 11:16:25 cisr /kernel: umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, > STALLED > > When I plugged it out, the machine did a reboot :(. I can confirm this on a -current from mid-may. Same USB toy, same result. Flemming -- Flemming Jacobsen Email: fj@batmule.dk ---=== If speed kills, Windows users may live forever. ===--- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 15 12:05:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBCD416A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 12:05:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53EF643D2D for ; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 12:05:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-stable@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BaCgZ-0002wj-00 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 14:05:03 +0200 Received: from ns-ilmail3.ns-systems.com ([62.90.139.134]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 14:05:03 +0200 Received: from haim by ns-ilmail3.ns-systems.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 14:05:03 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Haim Ashkenazi Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 15:04:59 +0300 Lines: 36 Message-ID: References: <20040614111822.1564.qmail@web14106.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ns-ilmail3.ns-systems.com User-Agent: Pan/0.14.2.91 (As She Crawled Across the Table (Debian GNU/Linux)) Sender: news Subject: Re: need suggestions for reverse proxy X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 12:05:27 -0000 On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 13:18:22 +0200, Claus Guttesen wrote: >> I'm looking for a reverse proxy for https to protect >> an IIS server. at the >> moment I'm using "pound" but then the IIS doesn't >> recognize where the >> original request came from so I can't do things like >> allow,deny from a >> certain IP or use awstats. It should be able to deal >> with sessions and >> load balancing (although at the moment I only have > > You may try squid, although I doubt that squid works > with https in your setup. Squid needs to know the > private keys in order to decrypt the session-info so > it can be session-aware. One way to deal with this is > to let squid decrypt and pass it on to IIS as > cleartext. Squid is capable of removing unwanted > URL's. > > But statefull loadbalancing may not be squids > strength. well, I'll test it and see how it works... > > We are using LVS (Linux Virtual Server). Although I > would have preferred a BSD-solution, nothing beats LVS > in terms of scalability. Had an old 486 with 64 MB > RAM, which could handle more than 10.000 unique > visitors a day. how would it help me? the web server has to sit on IIS. thanx -- Haim From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 15 12:14:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7C2316A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 12:14:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web14102.mail.yahoo.com (web14102.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.132]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 772EB43D53 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 12:14:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cguttesen@yahoo.dk) Message-ID: <20040615121316.75438.qmail@web14102.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [194.248.174.58] by web14102.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 14:13:16 CEST Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 14:13:16 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Claus=20Guttesen?= To: Haim Ashkenazi , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: need suggestions for reverse proxy X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 12:14:48 -0000 >> We are using LVS (Linux Virtual Server). Although I >> would have preferred a BSD-solution, nothing beats > LVS >> in terms of scalability. Had an old 486 with 64 MB >> RAM, which could handle more than 10.000 unique >> visitors a day. > how would it help me? the web server has to sit on > IIS. Forgot to point out that LVS is our load balancer, our web-server runs on FreeBSD ;-) regards Claus Yahoo! Mail (http://dk.mail.yahoo.com) - Gratis: 6 MB lagerplads, spamfilter og virusscan From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 15 12:34:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A79DE16A4CF for ; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 12:34:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from goplanet.com.br (cm-net-poa-C8B02266.brdterra.com.br [200.176.34.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 940D143D31 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 12:34:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from suporte@wahtec.com.br) Received: (qmail 72119 invoked by uid 98); 15 Jun 2004 12:44:24 -0000 Received: from suporte@wahtec.com.br by Viruswall by uid 82 with qmail-scanner-1.20 ( Clear:RC:1(192.168.1.226):. Processed in 0.210166 secs); 15 Jun 2004 12:44:24 -0000 X-Qmail-Scanner-Mail-From: suporte@wahtec.com.br via Viruswall X-Qmail-Scanner: 1.20 (Clear:RC:1(192.168.1.226):. Processed in 0.210166 secs) Received: from unknown (HELO LISASIMPSON) (192.168.1.226) by goplanet.com.br with SMTP; 15 Jun 2004 12:44:21 -0000 From: "Suporte - WAH" To: Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 09:34:04 -0300 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20040527190107.9390B16A4DE@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: how to install f-protd X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 12:34:09 -0000 Hi, I need a help to install the f-protd antivirus to use with samba-vscan and the other openantivirus.org tools. Ports seem only install the command-line scanner, not the daemon. By the way, when ppl is going to be able to install vscan? Quite a while it's forbidden... Virusscan is a damn good virus scanner (one of the best), but maybe its time to check if it will ever be updated by McAfee or remove it from ports. (please tell me if I'm missing something) Detail follows: - The system fwborda# uname -a FreeBSD fwborda 5.2.1-RC FreeBSD 5.2.1-RC #0: Mon Feb 2 18:16:53 BRST 2004 arisjr@fwborda:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/Fi-Fa-Fo-Fun i386 - The ports dir is updated with cvsup. Sorry the poor English. Regards, --aristeu From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 15 14:12:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 374A716A4CE; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 14:12:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out-mx1.crosswinds.net (out-mx1.crosswinds.net [216.18.117.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF8EE43D5C; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 14:12:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tony@crosswinds.net) Received: from admin.crosswinds.net (out-mx1.crosswinds.net [216.18.117.38]) by out-mx1.crosswinds.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A15C2BA66; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 10:12:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by admin.crosswinds.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 544C53F0B; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 10:12:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 10:12:33 -0400 From: Tony Holmes To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040615141233.GA41523@crosswinds.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: SCSI Probe Problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 14:12:42 -0000 Hi! I have a server running 4.9-STABLE that I updated to 4.10 so that I could use a Promise TX-S150 to mirror a pair of SATA disks (seagate). The system currently has 4 SCSI drives on an Adaptec 19160 working flawlessly in them. Prior to the upgrade, the Promise controller and disks were installed, the disks configured in the promise controller and all was fine, except the kernel didn't recognize it, hence the reboot. Initially, I attempted an upgrade to a later 4.9-STABLE and on Friday, to 4.10-RELEASE. In both cases, the boot sequence hung at the SCSI reset (waiting for 15 sec) on the newer kernels. The new kernels were GENERIC with HZ set to 2000 and quotas turned on. Due to the fact that it is a production system, I could not debug further and reverted to the older kernel (with the new world) and it's running fine. Has anyone else experienced this? I noticed no details of any issues with the ahc driver or other issues in the UPDATING, so this perplexes me a litte. I assume that to aid I will have to eventually go in, install the new kernel and boot -v with a paste, but need to do it in the wee hours and warn my customers. -- Tony Holmes Founder and Senior Systems Architect Crosswinds Internet Communications Inc. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 15 16:17:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8562816A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 16:17:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.datausa.com (mail.datausa.com [216.150.220.134]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 22AD343D41 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 16:17:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@wcubed.net) Received: (qmail 49959 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2004 16:16:09 -0000 Received: from web.datausa.com (HELO webmail.wcubed.net) (216.150.220.132) by mail.datausa.com with SMTP; 15 Jun 2004 16:16:09 -0000 Received: from 24.9.172.8 (SquirrelMail authenticated user freebsd@wcubed.net) by webmail.wcubed.net with HTTP; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 10:15:43 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <2398.24.9.172.8.1087316143.squirrel@webmail.wcubed.net> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 10:15:43 -0600 (MDT) From: "Brad Waite" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Subject: 4.10-STABLE boot issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 16:17:48 -0000 Hi all. I just installed 4.10 (and upgraded to 4.10-STABLE) on a 2 x 9GB SCSI disk AMI MegaRAID array (RAID0). I set up slices as I have previously with 30GB+ IDE drives: 1GB swap 29GB / Fdisk, label and the rest of install went fine, as did the update, but on all reboots (even before the update) I got the following error: Disk error 0x1 (lba=0x21fc09f) No /boot/loader >>> FreeBSD/i386 BOOT Default: 0:ad(0,a)/kernel boot: If I hit enter, it spit out this error: WARNING: loader(8) metadata is missing! and continued the boot process. After finding all the devices, including the RAID controller (amr0) and the logical drive (amrd0), it displayed a 'mountroot>' prompt. If I gave it the logical drive slice a: (ufs:/dev/amrd0s1a) it finished the boot. I got around the problem by doing two things: 1. Created a /boot.config containing "0:da(0,a)/kernel" After doing this, the boot2 stopped complaining about a missing /boot/loader, which makes sense because I'm telling it to load /kernel instead of /boot/loader. 2. Built a new kernel and defined ROOTDEVNAME=\"ufs:amrd0s1a\" Now I'm no longer prompted to specify the root slice. So things are good. My machine boots w/out interaction. But I'm still perplexed as to why it didn't before. If boot2 can find /kernel, why can't it find /boot/loader? To further investigate, I copied /boot/loader to / and changed /boot.config to '0:da(0,a)/loader' and whaddya know? It now runs the BTX loader properly. So what's going on? Can anyone answer this stumper? Thanks, Brad From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 15 19:53:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A17CE16A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 19:53:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (u46n208.hfx.eastlink.ca [24.222.46.208]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44F4B43D1D for ; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 19:53:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 90A563C09E; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 16:53:20 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86C9E3C090 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 16:53:20 -0300 (ADT) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 16:53:19 -0300 (ADT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040615165300.M1028@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: snmpwalk from jail -> snmp server ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 19:53:42 -0000 Have a jail setup that I want to be able to do a snmpwalk from to another server ... but, for some reason, I get a 'sendto' error: zabbix# snmpwalk -v 1 -c public jupiter.hub.org system SNMPv2-MIB::sysDescr.0 = STRING: FreeBSD jupiter.hub.org 4.10-STABLE FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE #8: Fri Jun i386 snmpwalk: Failure in sendto (Invalid argument) zabbix# jupiter is a different machine then zabbix, and I have an rocommunity set in the snmpd.conf file ... the rest is pretty much defaults ... If I run the same command on neptune (zabbix's base server), I get the full MIB as expected ... its only from the jail that it doesn't appear to work ... thoughts? ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 16 03:00:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E28C16A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Jun 2004 03:00:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (horsey.gshapiro.net [64.105.95.154]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22A4E43D2D for ; Wed, 16 Jun 2004 03:00:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gshapiro@gshapiro.net) Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i5G30bCc063803 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 15 Jun 2004 20:00:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost)i5G30as8063802; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 20:00:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 20:00:36 -0700 From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: "Marc G. Fournier" Message-ID: <20040616030036.GG52582@horsey.gshapiro.net> References: <20040615165300.M1028@ganymede.hub.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040615165300.M1028@ganymede.hub.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: snmpwalk from jail -> snmp server ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 03:00:56 -0000 > Have a jail setup that I want to be able to do a snmpwalk from to another > server ... but, for some reason, I get a 'sendto' error: > > thoughts? It is a bug in jails that affects DNS as well. The code below is an short piece of example code which reproduces the problem in case someone with knowledge of jails and the sockets layer wants to look at it. There is also a bug report with a potential patch (kern/26506) but I do not know enough about that part of the code to know if the patch maintains jail security properly. #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #define memzero(b, l) memset(b, 0, l) #define DNS_PORT 53 #define DBS 1024 typedef struct sockaddr_in sockaddr_in_T; char dnstsk_rd[DBS]; char dnstsk_wr[DBS]; sockaddr_in_T dnstsk_sin; /* socket description */ int dnstsk_fd; uint32_t ipv4; int dns_send() { ssize_t r; r = sendto(dnstsk_fd, dnstsk_wr, strlen(dnstsk_wr), 0, (const struct sockaddr *) &dnstsk_sin, sizeof(sockaddr_in_T)); fprintf(stderr, "sendto: r=%d, errno=%d\n", r, errno); memzero(&dnstsk_sin, sizeof(dnstsk_sin)); dnstsk_sin.sin_family = AF_INET; dnstsk_sin.sin_port = htons(DNS_PORT); memcpy(&dnstsk_sin.sin_addr.s_addr, &ipv4, sizeof(ipv4)); if (r == -1) return errno; return 0; } int dns_send2() { memzero(&dnstsk_sin, sizeof(dnstsk_sin)); dnstsk_sin.sin_family = AF_INET; dnstsk_sin.sin_port = htons(DNS_PORT); memcpy(&dnstsk_sin.sin_addr.s_addr, &ipv4, sizeof(ipv4)); dnstsk_fd = socket(dnstsk_sin.sin_family, SOCK_DGRAM, 0); if (dnstsk_fd < 0) goto error; strlcpy(dnstsk_wr, "example.com", sizeof(dnstsk_wr)); strlcat(dnstsk_wr, "\001", sizeof(dnstsk_wr)); if (dns_send() != 0) goto error; strlcpy(dnstsk_wr, "host.example.com", sizeof(dnstsk_wr)); strlcat(dnstsk_wr, "\001", sizeof(dnstsk_wr)); if (dns_send() != 0) goto error; return 0; error: return -1; } int main(int argc, char *argv[]) { if (argc > 1) ipv4 = inet_addr(argv[1]); else ipv4 = inet_addr("127.0.0.1"); return dns_send2(); } From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 16 04:13:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 283CD16A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Jun 2004 04:13:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from alcanet.com.au (mail2.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2D5A43D55 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 2004 04:13:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au) Received: from gsmx07.alcatel.com.au (IDENT:root@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1])i5G4Dl3l024716; Wed, 16 Jun 2004 14:13:47 +1000 Received: from gsmx07.alcatel.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i5G4DkKC054422; Wed, 16 Jun 2004 14:13:46 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au) Received: (from pjeremy@localhost) by gsmx07.alcatel.com.au (8.12.9p2/8.12.9/Submit) id i5G4DjvH054421; Wed, 16 Jun 2004 14:13:46 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 14:13:45 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy To: stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040616041345.GA54346@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> Mail-Followup-To: stable@freebsd.org, Andrew.Li@alcatel.com.au Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i Subject: 4.10-RELEASE install hanging X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 04:13:57 -0000 I've just installed 4.10-RELEASE onto a Compaq DeskPro/EP and had sysinstall hang in the "probing devices" step. I traced this down to a Kouwell 223NP-4 PCI I/O card (4 serial, 1 parallel port using a NetMos Nm9845CV chip) - when I unplugged the card, the install works perfectly. The system boots OK with the card in (though it only detects 1 serial port and no parallel port). Once I build my own kernel (including puc(4)), all 4 serial ports are probed correctly. Any ideas why it hangs? Following is a verbose dmesg using the GENERIC kernel. Copyright (c) 1992-2004 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.10-RELEASE #0: Tue May 25 22:47:12 GMT 2004 root@perseus.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC Calibrating clock(s) ... TSC clock: 333042362 Hz, i8254 clock: 1193142 Hz CLK_USE_I8254_CALIBRATION not specified - using default frequency Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CLK_USE_TSC_CALIBRATION not specified - using old calibration method CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (333.06-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x652 Stepping = 2 Features=0x183f9ff real memory = 67108864 (65536K bytes) Physical memory chunk(s): 0x000001000 - 0x00009efff, 647168 bytes (158 pages) 0x000578000 - 0x003ff7fff, 61341696 bytes (14976 pages) avail memory = 59887616 (58484K bytes) bios32: Found BIOS32 Service Directory header at 0xc00fa000 bios32: Entry = 0xec700 (c00ec700) Rev = 0 Len = 1 pcibios: PCI BIOS entry at 0xfbd pnpbios: Found PnP BIOS data at 0xc00f78e0 pnpbios: Entry = f0000:5d52 Rev = 1.0 pnpbios: OEM ID c9b0110e Other BIOS signatures found: ACPI: 000e0010 Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0551000. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled Creating DISK md0 md0: Malloc disk Math emulator present pci_open(1): mode 1 addr port (0x0cf8) is 0x80010058 pci_open(1a): mode1res=0x80000000 (0x80000000) pci_cfgcheck: device 0 [class=060000] [hdr=00] is there (id=71808086) Using $PIR table, 5 entries at 0xc00edb20 npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x7180, revid=0x03 class=06-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base 44000000, size 26 found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x7181, revid=0x03 class=06-04-00, hdrtype=0x01, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=1 secondarybus=1 found-> vendor=0x0e11, dev=0xae32, revid=0x10 class=02-80-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=a, irq=11 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base 00001020, size 4 map[14]: type 1, range 32, base 40900000, size 4 found-> vendor=0x1011, dev=0x0009, revid=0x22 class=02-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=a, irq=11 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base 00001080, size 7 map[14]: type 1, range 32, base 42000000, size 7 found-> vendor=0x9710, dev=0x9845, revid=0x01 class=07-00-02, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=a, irq=11 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base 00001050, size 3 map[14]: type 3, range 32, base 00001058, size 3 map[18]: type 1, range 32, base 00001060, size 3 map[1c]: type 3, range 32, base 00001068, size 3 map[20]: type 1, range 32, base 00001070, size 3 map[24]: type 1, range 32, base 00001040, size 4 found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x7110, revid=0x02 class=06-01-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=1 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x7111, revid=0x01 class=01-01-80, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 map[20]: type 1, range 32, base 00001030, size 4 found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x7112, revid=0x01 class=0c-03-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=d, irq=11 map[20]: type 1, range 32, base 00001000, size 5 found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x7113, revid=0x02 class=06-80-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 map[90]: type 1, range 32, base 0000fc00, size 4 pci0: on pcib0 agp0: mem 0x44000000-0x47ffffff at device 0.0 on pci0 agp0: allocating GATT for aperture of size 64M pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 found-> vendor=0x102b, dev=0x0521, revid=0x03 class=03-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=a, irq=11 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base 41000000, size 24 map[14]: type 1, range 32, base 40800000, size 14 map[18]: type 1, range 32, base 40000000, size 23 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: (vendor=0x102b, dev=0x0521) at 0.0 irq 11 tl0: port 0x1020-0x102f mem 0x40900000-0x4090000f irq 11 at device 13.0 on pci0 tl0: Ethernet address: 00:08:c7:0d:4e:a2 miibus0: on tl0 nsphy0: on miibus0 nsphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto tlphy0: on miibus0 tlphy0: 10base2/BNC, 10base5/AUI bpf: tl0 attached de0: port 0x1080-0x10ff mem 0x42000000-0x4200007f irq 11 at device 14.0 on pci0 using shared irq11. de0: DEC DE500-AA 21140A [10-100Mb/s] pass 2.2 de0: address 00:00:f8:1b:4e:2d bpf: de0 attached sio0: irq maps: 0x1 0x805 0x1 0x1 sio0: port 0x1040-0x104f,0x1070-0x1077,0x1068-0x106f,0x1060-0x1067,0x1058-0x105f,0x1050-0x1057 irq 11 at device 15.0 on pci0 sio0: moving to sio4 sio4: type 16550A isab0: at device 20.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x1030-0x103f at device 20.1 on pci0 ata0: iobase=0x01f0 altiobase=0x03f6 bmaddr=0x1030 ata0: mask=03 ostat0=50 ostat2=00 ata0-master: ATAPI 00 00 ata0-slave: ATAPI 00 00 ata0: mask=03 stat0=50 stat1=00 ata0-master: ATA 01 a5 ata0: devices=01 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: iobase=0x0170 altiobase=0x0376 bmaddr=0x1038 ata1: mask=03 ostat0=50 ostat2=01 ata1-master: ATAPI 14 eb ata1-slave: ATAPI 00 00 ata1: mask=03 stat0=00 stat1=00 ata1-slave: ATA 04 a5 ata1: devices=06 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 uhci0: port 0x1000-0x101f irq 11 at device 20.2 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered chip0: port 0xfc00-0xfc0f at device 20.3 on pci0 ex_isa_identify() ata-: ata0 exists, using next available unit number ata-: ata1 exists, using next available unit number Trying Read_Port at 203 ESS0006: adding io range 0x800-0xfff, size=0x8, align=0x8 ESS1869: start dependant ESS1869: adding dma mask 0x2 ESS1869: adding dma mask 0x9 ESS1869: adding irq mask 0x20 ESS1869: adding io range 0x220-0x22f, size=0x10, align=0 ESS1869: adding io range 0x388-0x38b, size=0x4, align=0 ESS1869: adding io range 0x330-0x331, size=0x2, align=0 ESS1869: start dependant ESS1869: adding dma mask 0x2 ESS1869: adding dma mask 0x9 ESS1869: adding irq mask 0x1ea0 ESS1869: adding io range 0x220-0x28f, size=0x10, align=0x20 ESS1869: adding io range 0x388-0x38b, size=0x4, align=0 ESS1869: adding io range 0x300-0x331, size=0x2, align=0x30 ESS1869: start dependant ESS1869: adding dma mask 0xb ESS1869: adding dma mask 0xb ESS1869: adding irq mask 0x1ea0 ESS1869: adding io range 0x220-0x28f, size=0x10, align=0x20 ESS1869: adding io range 0x388-0x38b, size=0x4, align=0 ESS1869: adding io range 0x300-0x331, size=0x2, align=0x30 ESS1869: start dependant ESS1869: adding dma mask 0xb ESS1869: adding dma mask 0xb ESS1869: adding irq mask 0x1ea0 ESS1869: adding io range 0x220-0x28f, size=0x10, align=0x20 ESS1869: adding io range 0x388-0x38b, size=0x4, align=0 ESS1869: start dependant ESS1869: adding dma mask 0xb ESS1869: adding dma mask 0xb ESS1869: adding irq mask 0x1ea0 ESS1869: adding io range 0x220-0x28f, size=0x10, align=0x20 ESS1869: end dependant isa_probe_children: disabling PnP devices isa_probe_children: probing non-PnP devices orm0: