From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 28 00:21:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A875E16A4CE for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 00:21:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bsam.ru (gw.ipt.ru [80.253.10.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3C5C43D2D for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 00:21:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsam@bsam.ru) Received: from bsam by bsam.ru with local (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1CYCrf-000PJl-OR for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 03:24:31 +0300 Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 03:24:31 +0300 From: "Boris B. Samorodov" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041128002431.GA97274@ipt.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: "Boris B. Samorodov" Subject: arp -s (bug?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 00:21:24 -0000 Hi, All! I definetly smth misunderstand. Any comments? ----- # uname -a FreeBSD host.my.ru 5.3-STABLE FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE #0: Thu Nov 25 16:08:35 MSK 2004 bsam@host.my.ru:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/HOST i386 # ifconfig dc1 dc1: flags=108843 mtu 1500 options=8 inet XX.XX.XX.88 netmask 0xfffffff0 broadcast XX.XX.XX.95 inet 192.168.12.254 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.12.255 ether 00:80:c8:ca:50:d2 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active # arp -s 192.168.12.240 auto pub using interface dc1 for proxy with address 00:80:c8:ca:50:d2 # arp -s 192.168.12.239 auto pub no interface found for 192.168.12.239 ----- WBR -- bsam From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 28 00:40:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EA6616A4CE for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 00:40:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from auk2.snu.ac.kr (auk2.snu.ac.kr [147.46.100.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C83C43D68 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 00:40:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from spamrefuse@yahoo.com) Received: from [147.46.44.181] (spamrefuse@yahoo.com) by auk2.snu.ac.kr (Terrace Internet Messaging Server) with ESMTP id 2004112809:40:22:830942.21758.2883394480 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 09:40:22 +0900 (KST) Message-ID: <41A91E7E.8050409@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 09:40:30 +0900 From: Rob User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041113 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <200411270903.iAR93Aao024219@moon.behrens> In-Reply-To: <200411270903.iAR93Aao024219@moon.behrens> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-TERRACE-SPAMMARK: NO (SR:3.97) (by Terrace) Subject: Re: make -j$n buildworld : use of -j investigated X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 00:40:35 -0000 Frank Behrens wrote: > I read this thread with interest and saw the question, how the system > wil behave with hyperthreading. Should I not benchmark my system? > here you have the results. The interpretation is left to the experts. > > IMHO HT is not as useless as expected. :-) > > I did not switch off SMP with sysctl, but used an extra UP Kernel to > allow some optimizations during compile. But I don't know if there > are any.. > > Hardware is > CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz (2798.66-MHz 686-class CPU) > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf33 Stepping = 3 > Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs > real memory = 1072889856 (1023 MB) > avail memory = 1040453632 (992 MB) According to my formula: time(minutes) = 1e5 / ( speed(MHz) * nproc ) and taking nproc = 1, this results in time = 1e5 / 2798.66 = 36 minutes Quite accurate for your system as well. At least this formula gives a resonable estimate about the compile time. Apparently HT does not help much, since with SMP kernel, times do not get any close to 36/2 = 18 minutes. However, there is a slight improvement from -j1 to -j2 with SMP. I myself have not yet tested HT systems. Rob. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 28 01:49:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00EFA16A4CE for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 01:49:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail1.webmaster.com (mail1.webmaster.com [216.152.64.168]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D195843D54 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 01:49:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from davids@webmaster.com) Received: from however by webmaster.com (MDaemon.PRO.v7.1.0.R) with ESMTP id md50000299986.msg for ; Sat, 27 Nov 2004 17:25:43 -0800 From: "David Schwartz" To: Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 17:49:22 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <41A91E7E.8050409@yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Authenticated-Sender: joelkatz@webmaster.com X-Spam-Processed: mail1.webmaster.com, Sat, 27 Nov 2004 17:25:43 -0800 (not processed: message from trusted or authenticated source) X-MDRemoteIP: 206.171.168.138 X-Return-Path: davids@webmaster.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-MDAV-Processed: mail1.webmaster.com, Sat, 27 Nov 2004 17:25:45 -0800 Subject: RE: make -j$n buildworld : use of -j investigated X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: davids@webmaster.com List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 01:49:41 -0000 > According to my formula: > > time(minutes) = 1e5 / ( speed(MHz) * nproc ) > > and taking nproc = 1, this results in > > time = 1e5 / 2798.66 = 36 minutes > > Quite accurate for your system as well. At least this formula gives a > resonable estimate about the compile time. > > Apparently HT does not help much, since with SMP kernel, times do not > get any close to 36/2 = 18 minutes. However, there is a slight improvement > from -j1 to -j2 with SMP. You're saying that HT does not help because it doesn't double the speed? That makes no sense. HT helps if it brings the time down. If it brings it down to 34 minutes, it helps a little. If it brings it down to 24 minutes, it helps quite a bit. It's unrealistic to even imagine that HT will bring anything close to the benefit of a second physical CPU. DS From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 28 02:18:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D30F016A4CE for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 02:18:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from auk2.snu.ac.kr (auk2.snu.ac.kr [147.46.100.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73C9B43D1F for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 02:18:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from spamrefuse@yahoo.com) Received: from [147.46.44.181] (spamrefuse@yahoo.com) by auk2.snu.ac.kr (Terrace Internet Messaging Server) with ESMTP id 2004112811:18:15:870737.21758.2860604336 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 11:18:15 +0900 (KST) Message-ID: <41A93570.6050607@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 11:18:24 +0900 From: Rob User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041113 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <41A91E7E.8050409@yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-TERRACE-SPAMMARK: YES-__TRSYS_LV__3 (SR:-1.27) (SRN:SPAMROBOT) ----------------- Subject: Re: make -j$n buildworld : use of -j investigated X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 02:18:29 -0000 David Schwartz wrote: >>According to my formula: >> >> time(minutes) = 1e5 / ( speed(MHz) * nproc ) >> >>and taking nproc = 1, this results in >> >> time = 1e5 / 2798.66 = 36 minutes >> >>Quite accurate for your system as well. At least this formula gives a >>resonable estimate about the compile time. >> >>Apparently HT does not help much, since with SMP kernel, times do not >>get any close to 36/2 = 18 minutes. However, there is a slight improvement >>from -j1 to -j2 with SMP. > > > You're saying that HT does not help because it doesn't double the speed? > That makes no sense. HT helps if it brings the time down. If it brings it > down to 34 minutes, it helps a little. If it brings it down to 24 minutes, > it helps quite a bit. It's unrealistic to even imagine that HT will bring > anything close to the benefit of a second physical CPU. OK, sorry for me rushing into conclusions. All I tried to say was that in cases when 'nproc' plays are role, then nproc=2 with a second CPU, but it is somewhere between 1 and 2 for HT systems; possibly closer to 1 than to 2 (but indeed still larger than 1 !) Rob. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 28 08:52:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 816E316A4CE; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 08:52:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from c3po.barnesos.net (c3po.LPL.arizona.edu [128.196.64.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0382C43D5A; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 08:52:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jbarnes@barnesos.net) Received: by c3po.barnesos.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0671FB89A; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 01:52:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c3po.barnesos.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E55D9B898; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 01:52:13 -0700 (MST) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 01:52:13 -0700 (MST) From: "Jason W. Barnes" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041128014254.F28418@c3po.barnesos.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: Wayne Barnes Subject: maestro3 sound problem on Dell Inspiron 4000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 08:52:18 -0000 I have been unable to get sound to work on my Dell Inspiron 4000 under FreeBSD 5.3. Until last Tuesday I was running 4-STABLE, under which sound would work, but only after I had put the computer to sleep (zzz), and then brought it back up. Before that, any attempt to play sound resulted in an application that thought it was playing sound, but no actual audio emanations from the laptop. Under 5.3, I have the snd_maestro3_load="YES" in my loader.conf, and a kldstat confirms that maestro3 and its attendant modules are indeed loaded and seem to be functioning. Here's an output of /dev/sndstat: FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) Installed devices: pcm0: at io 0xd800 irq 5 kld snd_maestro3 (4p/1r/0v channels duplex default) I have tried the same sleep trick that worked in 4-STABLE to recover sound usage, but it does not work in this case, even though the computer's sleep and recovery therefrom seem normal. When the computer first boots, it emits a loud beep, implying that the sound *is* working at initial bootup, but must be messed up later in the boot process. I have become quite exasperated with this problem. I was wondering if any of you out there in mailing-list-land might have encountered a similar problem, or have any ideas as to what I might try to fix my issue. For reference I have included a copy of dmesg below my signature. Thanks in advance for any help you might have, - Jason Barnes Copyright (c) 1992-2004 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE #1: Sun Nov 28 00:18:14 MST 2004 jbarnes@tc14.barnesos.net:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/tc14.2004.Nov.25 Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel Pentium III (701.59-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x686 Stepping = 6 Features=0x383f9ff real memory = 268353536 (255 MB) avail memory = 252932096 (241 MB) npx0: [FAST] npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface acpi0: on motherboard Timecounter "ACPI-safe" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 acpi_tz0: on acpi0 acpi_acad0: on acpi0 acpi_cmbat0: on acpi0 acpi_cmbat1: on acpi0 acpi_lid0: on acpi0 acpi_button0: on acpi0 acpi_button1: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 agp0: mem 0xf4000000-0xf7ffffff at device 0.0 on pci0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) cbb0: at device 3.0 on pci0 cardbus0: on cbb0 pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0 cbb1: at device 3.1 on pci0 cardbus1: on cbb1 pccard1: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb1 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x860-0x86f,0x376,0x170-0x177,0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 7.1 on pci0 ata0: channel #0 on atapci0 ata1: channel #1 on atapci0 uhci0: port 0xdce0-0xdcff irq 11 at device 7.2 on pci0 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered pci0: at device 7.3 (no driver attached) pcm0: port 0xd800-0xd8ff mem 0xf3ffe000-0xf3ffffff irq 5 at device 8.0 on pci0 pcm0: failed: rid 0x10 is ioport, requested 3 pcm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] pcm0: pci0: at device 16.0 (no driver attached) atkbdc0: port 0x64,0x60 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 fdc0: port 0x3f7,0x3f2-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: [FAST] sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xcffff on isa0 pmtimer0 on isa0 ppc0: parallel port not found. sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounter "TSC" frequency 701593381 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec ndis0: mem 0x88000000-0x88001fff irq 11 at device 0.0 on cardbus1 ndis0: NDIS API version: 5.0 ndis0: Ethernet address: 00:0f:66:45:6a:23 ndis0: 11b rates: 1Mbps 2Mbps 5.5Mbps 11Mbps ndis0: 11g rates: 6Mbps 9Mbps 12Mbps 18Mbps 36Mbps 48Mbps 54Mbps ad0: 9590MB [19485/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA33 acd0: DVDROM at ata1-master UDMA33 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a WARNING: /usr was not properly dismounted WARNING: /var was not properly dismounted ndis0: link up From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 28 09:58:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BA8A16A4CE for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 09:58:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from orb.pobox.com (orb.pobox.com [207.8.226.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44D6F43D31 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 09:58:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from b.candler@pobox.com) Received: from orb (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orb.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 354F42FB197 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 04:58:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from billdog.local.linnet.org (dsl-212-74-113-65.access.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.113.65]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by orb.sasl.smtp.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A0FD2FB16F for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 04:58:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from brian by billdog.local.linnet.org with local (Exim 4.43 (FreeBSD)) id 1CYLp7-0000AX-SL for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 09:58:29 +0000 Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 09:58:29 +0000 From: Brian Candler To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041128095829.GA643@uk.tiscali.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: Bug in xterm? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 09:58:32 -0000 ----- Forwarded message from Andy Farkas ----- >-------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>$ perl -mDigest::MD5 -e 'print pack("H*",Digest::MD5::md5("test"))' >ert >>$ wc ert >> 0 1 8 ert >>$ hexdump -C ert >>00000000 9f 4d f1 3c ae 73 67 46 |.M.<.sgF| >>00000008 >>$ cat ert >> >>At this point it hangs; sending ^Q doesn't help. But if you press cursor-up >>a few times it comes back to life. ... > >Oddly, a real vt220 would do the same thing, but neither has any use for >the content of the string. A real VT220 does NOT hang. It prints "Mn Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A462A16A4CE for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 10:08:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A3B943D2D for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 10:08:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dantavious@comcast.net) Received: from focus.dantavious.com (pcp04630633pcs.gambrl01.md.comcast.net[68.49.58.89]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with ESMTP id <2004112810080101500gs9vre>; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 10:08:01 +0000 From: Derrick Edwards To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 05:21:35 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200411280521.35885.dantavious@comcast.net> Subject: pkg_add error on STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 10:08:01 -0000 Everytime I try to install a package via pkg_add I get the following error. There is not a packages-5-current directory but there is a ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5-stable directory. How do I fix this? %pkg_add -r mysqlcc Error: FTP Unable to get ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5-current/Latest/mysqlcc.tbz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) pkg_add: unable to fetch 'ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5-current/Latest/mysqlcc.tbz' by URL Thanks for your assistance Dantavious From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 28 12:27:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFA3E16A4CE for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 12:27:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from webmail.hitv.ru (webmail.hitv.ru [217.66.16.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF26343D48 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 12:27:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from getuid@mail.ru) Received: from PADONAK ([217.66.19.19]) by webmail.hitv.ru (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iASCRIWM013905 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 15:27:19 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from getuid@mail.ru) To: stable@FreeBSD.org From: Alex Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=koi8-r MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 15:27:11 +0300 Message-ID: User-Agent: Opera7.23/FreeBSD M2 build 518 Subject: X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: getuid@mail.ru List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 12:27:22 -0000 -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 28 12:35:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B1CA16A4CF for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 12:35:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from iscan1.intra.oki.co.jp (okigate.oki.co.jp [202.226.91.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B65443D41 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 12:35:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from yamamoto436@oki.com) Received: from aoi.bmc.oki.co.jp (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by iscan1.intra.oki.co.jp (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA27312 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 21:35:40 +0900 Received: (qmail 27341 invoked from network); 28 Nov 2004 21:35:41 +0900 Received: from tulip.bmc.oki.co.jp (172.19.234.100) by aoi.bmc.oki.co.jp with SMTP; 28 Nov 2004 21:35:41 +0900 Received: from localhost (tulip [172.19.234.100]) by tulip.bmc.oki.co.jp (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iASCZedN022730; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 21:35:40 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from yamamoto436@oki.com) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 21:35:40 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20041128.213540.74733833.yamamoto436@oki.com> To: glebius@freebsd.org From: Hideki Yamamoto In-Reply-To: <20041122081250.GA49670@cell.sick.ru> References: <20041121.003425.41664309.yamamoto436@oki.com> <20041122081250.GA49670@cell.sick.ru> X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 21.2 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pppoe server option X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 12:35:44 -0000 Hi, From: Gleb Smirnoff Subject: Re: pppoe server option Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 11:12:50 +0300 Message-ID: <20041122081250.GA49670@cell.sick.ru> > On Sun, Nov 21, 2004 at 12:34:25AM +0900, Hideki Yamamoto wrote: > H> I have found a problem about PPPoE parameter in /etc/rc.network. > H> When setting the following lines in /etc/rc.conf, pppoe server does not > H> work well. The string "service-pppoe" is an entry in > H> /etc/ppp/ppp.conf for PPPoE server. > H> > H> pppoed_enable="YES" # Run the PPP over Ethernet daemon. > H> pppoed_provider="service-pppoe" # Provider and ppp(8) config file entry. > H> pppoed_interface="fxp0" # The interface that pppoed runs on. > H> > H> In /etc/rc.network, 'pppoed_provider' is passed into pppoe with -p > H> option. After booting os, pppoe arguments are as follows: > H> > H> pppoed ... -p service-pppoe fxp0 > H> > H> But this option does not work. We should use -l instead of -p like > H> this: > H> > H> pppoed ... -l service-pppoe fxp0 > H> > H> To use -l, I think the line 822 in /etc/rc.network should be modified. > H> > H> < 822 pppoed_flags="${pppoed_flags} -p ${pppoed_provider}" > H> > H> > 822 pppoed_flags="${pppoed_flags} -l ${pppoed_provider}" > H> > H> After modifying the above line, pppoed server works well. > H> But is this modification correct? > > No. > > -l switch configures label in ppp.conf > -p swicth configures provider name which is announced in Ethernet. Thank you for your reply. I think comment statement in /etc/defaults/rc.conf should be changed because the current comment means '-l'. Otherwise we should change /etc/rc.network. Don't you think so? -------------- /etc/defaults/rc.conf ---------- pppoed_provider="service-pppoe" # Provider and ppp(8) config file entry. ----------------------------------------------- > -- > Totus tuus, Glebius. > GLEBIUS-RIPN GLEB-RIPE ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hideki YAMAMOTO | Broadband Media Solutions Department | E-mail: yamamoto436@oki.com Broadband Media Company | Tel: +81-48-420-7012 Oki Electric Industry Co., Ltd. | FAX: +81-48-420-7016 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 28 12:43:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99CDF16A4CE for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 12:43:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from server.interecho.com (server.interecho.com [213.25.86.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AF0D43D5C for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 12:43:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from my-buziaki@interecho.com) Received: from [192.168.3.13] (helo=localhost.localdomain) by server.interecho.com with esmtp (8.12.10/8.12.9) id 1CYONe-0006U7-Aw for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 13:42:18 +0100 From: Tomek Tylec To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 13:43:45 +0100 Message-Id: <1101645825.1130.13.camel@agape> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Network traffic: ttl X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 12:43:49 -0000 I found that gateway I use, sometimes receives packets from my FreeBSD 5.3 box with ttl 63. But when I dumped tcp packets (with tcpdump) that are send from my computer, they always got ttl 64. Moreover Linux (Fedora Core 2) running on same computer don't have such problems. Also older versions of FreeBSD (5.2.1 for example) work fine (ttl's are correct). It's specially important for me, because my ISP, that owns gateway, use simple method to check if he have illegal clients - firewall on gateway drops packets with odd ttl. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 28 13:01:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F32316A4CE for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 13:01:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gw01.mail.saunalahti.fi (gw01.mail.saunalahti.fi [195.197.172.115]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C49CF43D5C for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 13:01:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pertti.kosunen@saunalahti.fi) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (KMDCLXI.dsl.saunalahti.fi [62.142.70.61]) by gw01.mail.saunalahti.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id 976E89CC0B for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 15:01:25 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <41A9CC27.3030408@saunalahti.fi> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 15:01:27 +0200 From: Pertti Kosunen User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 / FreeBSD 5.3 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <51611.192.168.0.200.1101398532.squirrel@192.168.0.200> <87zn15zoqo.fsf@basilikum.skogtun.org> <41A63A78.2030506@mukappabeta.de> In-Reply-To: <41A63A78.2030506@mukappabeta.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: the best graphicscard for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 13:01:27 -0000 Matthias Buelow wrote: > The newer cards work very well. I have a X800se PCI-Express card and > it works like a charm with X.org 6.8.1 on 5.3. The only thing that's > missing in the newer Radeons under Xorg/XFree is 3d acceleration > (which the OP might or might not need on FreeBSD, since it's mostly > only useful for games, anyways). > Isn't that pretty expencive for 2d use? From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 28 13:25:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD2FE16A4CE for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 13:25:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns.exe.com.tr (ns2.exe.com.tr [213.204.66.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBF9143D46 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 13:25:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from SubZero@subzero5.yi.org) Received: from subzero5.yi.org (account postmaster@izsan.com [81.213.118.153] verified) by ns.exe.com.tr (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP id 1680045 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 15:24:51 +0200 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (HELO subzero5) by subzero5.yi.org (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with SMTP id 430011 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 10:22:49 +0200 Message-ID: <0fab01c4d523$727fb440$3400000a@subzero5> From: "Sub Zero" To: Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 10:22:27 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-9"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: Monitoring errors printed on servers screen. X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 13:25:20 -0000 I wonder how I can monitor the various prompts and errors that are printed on the FreeBSD 5.3 servers screen. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 28 15:43:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC93116A4CE for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 15:43:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6856543D5D for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 15:43:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from avleeuwen@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 34so126745rns for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 07:43:08 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=Wc9tZnLyucThqiIXW/78/ct/u4rinucM4WE+9xYvBMPiYwoVSrLo5B5kSG9OZrFJXbzmEXQ9TYAO9NFwU3wttl6LYr3mo9oCc00zCXI1oP9O3rtpaqmHaxez2KGhct7zNIUHvTH9kmlWEbMFakv35uNVWRdu9M56D3qGhx48O1w= Received: by 10.38.10.61 with SMTP id 61mr805088rnj; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 07:43:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.206.16 with HTTP; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 07:43:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 16:43:08 +0100 From: Arjan Van Leeuwen To: Robert Watson In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Panic in 5.3, related to network traffic X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Arjan Van Leeuwen List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 15:43:19 -0000 Just a small update: disabling SACK is a good workaround for this one, too. Arjan On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 21:38:31 +0100, Arjan Van Leeuwen wrote: > On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 16:42:01 +0000 (GMT), Robert Watson > > > wrote: > > > > On Wed, 10 Nov 2004, Arjan Van Leeuwen wrote: > > > > > > Could you send a copy of your dmesg? Could you also use gdb on a kernel > > > > with debug symbols or addr2line to convert the function+offsets in the > > > > trace to file and line number in the source? This is a NULL pointer > > > > dereference, so presumably somewhere there is a poor assumption about > > > > memory allocation or the like. > > > > > > dmesg is attached. > > > > Could you say a little about how ipfilter is being used on the box; would > > it be possible to test with it disabled? > > I've converted my ipfilter/ipnat system to ipfw/natd, and now the > problem is "solved". > > However, your patch still gives me a *lot* of icmp_error: n_spare != n > messages. I also noticed that if I ping from that system, it pings > every 2 seconds instead of every second. The clock doesn't seem to be > affected, and changing kern.timecounter.hardware doesn't change the > situation. > > Arjan > > > > > > > > > > > Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Projects > > robert@fledge.watson.org Principal Research Scientist, McAfee Research > > > > > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 28 16:15:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30ABB16A54E for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 16:15:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7911643D3F for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 16:15:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ricardo.martins@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 55so424862wri for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 08:15:44 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=c8AWnr3ZEANYWImbeTS/0mABXpJY/NZUA7lxEMP0wesoyzKbKg/riolPljy3Y9jcvZ2lf+4KyJM9XevgBqQS3E+cJLPF3rz0kIHNQr4POfXwBZSr1TGJUv6sggg36UTIsPAsNXTN5we0mJzNbA5ae7y7wuUh1m6kLL0IkxrIQIs= Received: by 10.54.43.63 with SMTP id q63mr335779wrq; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 08:15:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.45.40 with HTTP; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 08:15:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <653eec63041128081510919824@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 16:15:44 +0000 From: Ricardo David Martins To: mysql@lists.mysql.com, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Fatal error: Can't open privilege tables: File '/usr/local/share/mysql/charsets/?.conf' not found (Errcode: 2) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ricardo David Martins List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 16:15:49 -0000 Hi I am trying to run mysql 4.0.21 server on a freeBSD 5.3 box. I tried to run mysqld_safe to add a root password but i can't seem to run the safe command because it shuts down immediately. The following error is presented to me: Fatal error: Can't open privilege tables: File '/usr/local/share/mysql/charsets/?.conf' not found (Errcode: 2) I would like it to load the latin1.conf charset. I can't find any variable that influences this choice. Probably there is something not configured or the configuration isn't supported. Anyway I would like to know how to choose this. I installed the binary freebsd package which is suppose to be very reliable to a quick start. Thanks --=20 Ricardo David Martins ___________________________________________________________________________= __________________________ AVISO Esta mensagem (incluindo quaisquer anexos) pode conter informa=E7=E3o confidencial para uso exclusivo do destinat=E1rio. Se n=E3o for o destinat=E1rio pretendido, n=E3o dever=E1 usar, distribuir ou copiar este e-mail. 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Thank You. ___________________________________________________________________________= __________________________ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 28 16:27:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52FB216A4CE for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 16:27:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obh.snafu.de (obh.snafu.de [213.73.92.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B481743D48 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 16:27:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ob@gruft.de) Received: from ob by obh.snafu.de with local (Exim 4.43 (FreeBSD)) id 1CYRtB-000KoX-Dg for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 17:27:05 +0100 Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 17:27:05 +0100 From: Oliver Brandmueller To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041128162705.GC4291@e-Gitt.NET> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <0fab01c4d523$727fb440$3400000a@subzero5> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <0fab01c4d523$727fb440$3400000a@subzero5> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Sender: Oliver Brandmueller Subject: Re: Monitoring errors printed on servers screen. X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 16:27:07 -0000 Hi. On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 10:22:27AM +0200, Sub Zero wrote: > I wonder how I can monitor the various prompts and errors that are printed > on the FreeBSD 5.3 servers screen. "serial console" FreeBSD on Google (good source!) brought up this link on www.freebsd.org (even better source): http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/serialconsole-setup.html You might also want to have a look at "dcons". You also might want to check /etc/syslog.conf and syslog.conf(5) manpage. - Oliver -- | Oliver Brandmueller | Offenbacher Str. 1 | Germany D-14197 Berlin | | Fon +49-172-3130856 | Fax +49-172-3145027 | WWW: http://the.addict.de/ | | Ich bin das Internet. Sowahr ich Gott helfe. | | Eine gewerbliche Nutzung aller enthaltenen Adressen ist nicht gestattet! | From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 28 19:11:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B231216A4CE for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 19:11:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (cpc2-cdif3-6-0-cust204.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.103.67.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2596243D2F for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 19:11:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.43 (FreeBSD)) id 1CYURu-000F6v-4M; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 19:11:06 +0000 Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 19:11:06 +0000 From: Ceri Davies To: Derrick Edwards Message-ID: <20041128191105.GB37244@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Derrick Edwards , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <200411280521.35885.dantavious@comcast.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7knXg9dK90d7f3Md" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200411280521.35885.dantavious@comcast.net> X-PGP: finger ceri@FreeBSD.org User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Sender: Ceri Davies cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkg_add error on STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 19:11:07 -0000 --7knXg9dK90d7f3Md Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="KGCJ2evWaA3eb4zZ" Content-Disposition: inline --KGCJ2evWaA3eb4zZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 05:21:35AM -0500, Derrick Edwards wrote: > Everytime I try to install a package via pkg_add I get the following err= or. =20 > There is not a packages-5-current directory but there is a=20 > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5-stable directory.= =20 > How do I fix this?=20 >=20 > %pkg_add -r mysqlcc > Error: FTP Unable to get=20 > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5-current/Latest/my= sqlcc.tbz:=20 > File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) > pkg_add: unable to fetch=20 > 'ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5-current/Latest/m= ysqlcc.tbz'=20 > by URL See if the attached patch does the right thing. Ceri --=20 Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Einstein (attrib.) --KGCJ2evWaA3eb4zZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="pkg_install.diff" Index: pkg_install/add/main.c =================================================================== RCS file: /a/FreeBSD/ncvs/src/usr.sbin/pkg_install/add/main.c,v retrieving revision 1.59.2.1 diff -u -r1.59.2.1 main.c --- pkg_install/add/main.c 24 Oct 2004 09:42:10 -0000 1.59.2.1 +++ pkg_install/add/main.c 28 Nov 2004 19:09:07 -0000 @@ -72,7 +72,8 @@ { 503000, 503099, "/packages-5.3-release" }, { 300000, 399000, "/packages-3-stable" }, { 400000, 499000, "/packages-4-stable" }, - { 503100, 599000, "/packages-5-current" }, + { 502100, 502128, "/packages-5-current" }, + { 503100, 599000, "/packages-5-stable" }, { 0, 9999999, "/packages-current" }, { 0, 0, NULL } }; --KGCJ2evWaA3eb4zZ-- --7knXg9dK90d7f3Md Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBqiLJocfcwTS3JF8RAtQiAJ4o4WUybY/QJegU18Ww1RwzkK0PNACgnGBr j4rELqG7Hc2Lve4ii/f3spM= =124T -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7knXg9dK90d7f3Md-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 28 19:26:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42BFB16A4CE for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 19:26:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (cpc2-cdif3-6-0-cust204.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.103.67.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C542243D39 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 19:26:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.43 (FreeBSD)) id 1CYUgJ-000FCe-RE; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 19:25:59 +0000 Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 19:25:59 +0000 From: Ceri Davies To: Derrick Edwards , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041128192559.GC37244@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Derrick Edwards , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <200411280521.35885.dantavious@comcast.net> <20041128191105.GB37244@submonkey.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="B104er4HUrzUbM9g" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041128191105.GB37244@submonkey.net> X-PGP: finger ceri@FreeBSD.org User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Sender: Ceri Davies Subject: Re: pkg_add error on STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 19:26:01 -0000 --B104er4HUrzUbM9g Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 07:11:06PM +0000, Ceri Davies wrote: > On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 05:21:35AM -0500, Derrick Edwards wrote: > > Everytime I try to install a package via pkg_add I get the following e= rror. =20 > > There is not a packages-5-current directory but there is a=20 > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5-stable director= y. =20 > > How do I fix this?=20 > >=20 > > %pkg_add -r mysqlcc > > Error: FTP Unable to get=20 > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5-current/Latest/= mysqlcc.tbz:=20 > > File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) > > pkg_add: unable to fetch=20 > > 'ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5-current/Latest= /mysqlcc.tbz'=20 > > by URL >=20 > See if the attached patch does the right thing. Or just cvsup. Ken Smith just committed pretty much the same thing. Ceri --=20 Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Einstein (attrib.) --B104er4HUrzUbM9g Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBqiZHocfcwTS3JF8RAmY4AJ9v5WHRFM77X2Asd8tC0+Ylb/DsrACePuxb TDW3U5AGbWw1ZGMSH0sOpp0= =ZOgu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --B104er4HUrzUbM9g-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 28 19:30:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A57C16A4CE for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 19:30:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU (electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU [128.205.32.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C63743D5A for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 19:30:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kensmith@cse.Buffalo.EDU) Received: from electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU (kensmith@localhost [127.0.0.1]) iASJUpIo020596; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 14:30:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from kensmith@localhost) by electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU (8.12.10/8.12.9/Submit) id iASJUpc5020595; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 14:30:51 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 14:30:50 -0500 From: Ken Smith To: Ceri Davies , Derrick Edwards , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041128193050.GA20335@electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU> References: <200411280521.35885.dantavious@comcast.net> <20041128191105.GB37244@submonkey.net> <20041128192559.GC37244@submonkey.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041128192559.GC37244@submonkey.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: pkg_add error on STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 19:30:53 -0000 On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 07:25:59PM +0000, Ceri Davies wrote: > On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 07:11:06PM +0000, Ceri Davies wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 05:21:35AM -0500, Derrick Edwards wrote: > > > Everytime I try to install a package via pkg_add I get the following error. > > > There is not a packages-5-current directory but there is a > > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5-stable directory. > > > How do I fix this? > > > > > > %pkg_add -r mysqlcc > > > Error: FTP Unable to get > > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5-current/Latest/mysqlcc.tbz: > > > File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) > > > pkg_add: unable to fetch > > > 'ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5-current/Latest/mysqlcc.tbz' > > > by URL > > > > See if the attached patch does the right thing. > > Or just cvsup. Ken Smith just committed pretty much the same thing. > > Ceri > -- > Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm > not sure about the former. -- Einstein (attrib.) Yeah, Kris had asked for it. Your patch pointed out something though, you had added another chunk of the HEAD version that I hadn't added (range 502100, 502128,). But I'm not quite sure what to do about that because the packages-5-current directory is gone from the FTP sites. Anyone know for sure? -- Ken Smith - From there to here, from here to | kensmith@cse.buffalo.edu there, funny things are everywhere. | - Theodore Geisel | From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 28 19:35:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AD2D16A4CE for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 19:35:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B69C843D4C for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 19:35:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scottl@freebsd.org) Received: from [192.168.254.11] (junior-wifi.samsco.home [192.168.254.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iASJcuxW097411; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 12:38:56 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from scottl@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <41AA28A4.8070707@freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 12:36:04 -0700 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040929 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ken Smith References: <200411280521.35885.dantavious@comcast.net> <20041128191105.GB37244@submonkey.net> <20041128192559.GC37244@submonkey.net> <20041128193050.GA20335@electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU> In-Reply-To: <20041128193050.GA20335@electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=3.8 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on pooker.samsco.org cc: Ceri Davies cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org cc: Derrick Edwards Subject: Re: pkg_add error on STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 19:35:39 -0000 Ken Smith wrote: > On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 07:25:59PM +0000, Ceri Davies wrote: > >>On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 07:11:06PM +0000, Ceri Davies wrote: >> >>>On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 05:21:35AM -0500, Derrick Edwards wrote: >>> >>>> Everytime I try to install a package via pkg_add I get the following error. >>>>There is not a packages-5-current directory but there is a >>>>ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5-stable directory. >>>>How do I fix this? >>>> >>>>%pkg_add -r mysqlcc >>>>Error: FTP Unable to get >>>>ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5-current/Latest/mysqlcc.tbz: >>>>File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) >>>>pkg_add: unable to fetch >>>>'ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5-current/Latest/mysqlcc.tbz' >>>>by URL >>> >>>See if the attached patch does the right thing. >> >>Or just cvsup. Ken Smith just committed pretty much the same thing. >> >>Ceri >>-- >>Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm >>not sure about the former. -- Einstein (attrib.) > > > Yeah, Kris had asked for it. Your patch pointed out something though, > you had added another chunk of the HEAD version that I hadn't added > (range 502100, 502128,). But I'm not quite sure what to do about that > because the packages-5-current directory is gone from the FTP sites. > > Anyone know for sure? > Shouldn't that be packages-5.2.1-release? Scott From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 28 19:41:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E647A16A4CE for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 19:41:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (cpc2-cdif3-6-0-cust204.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.103.67.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 780FF43D3F for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 19:41:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.43 (FreeBSD)) id 1CYUv3-000FJr-EI; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 19:41:13 +0000 Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 19:41:13 +0000 From: Ceri Davies To: Ken Smith Message-ID: <20041128194113.GE37244@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Ken Smith , Derrick Edwards , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <200411280521.35885.dantavious@comcast.net> <20041128191105.GB37244@submonkey.net> <20041128192559.GC37244@submonkey.net> <20041128193050.GA20335@electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="/NDiA4DbghPWII0p" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041128193050.GA20335@electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU> X-PGP: finger ceri@FreeBSD.org User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Sender: Ceri Davies cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org cc: Derrick Edwards Subject: Re: pkg_add error on STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 19:41:16 -0000 --/NDiA4DbghPWII0p Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 02:30:50PM -0500, Ken Smith wrote: > On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 07:25:59PM +0000, Ceri Davies wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 07:11:06PM +0000, Ceri Davies wrote: > > > On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 05:21:35AM -0500, Derrick Edwards wrote: > > > > Everytime I try to install a package via pkg_add I get the followi= ng error. =20 > > > > There is not a packages-5-current directory but there is a=20 > > > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5-stable dire= ctory. =20 > > > > How do I fix this?=20 > > > >=20 > > > > %pkg_add -r mysqlcc > > > > Error: FTP Unable to get=20 > > > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5-current/Lat= est/mysqlcc.tbz:=20 > > > > File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) > > > > pkg_add: unable to fetch=20 > > > > 'ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5-current/La= test/mysqlcc.tbz'=20 > > > > by URL > > >=20 > > > See if the attached patch does the right thing. > >=20 > > Or just cvsup. Ken Smith just committed pretty much the same thing. > >=20 > > Ceri > > --=20 > > Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm > > not sure about the former. -- Einstein (attrib.) >=20 > Yeah, Kris had asked for it. Your patch pointed out something though, > you had added another chunk of the HEAD version that I hadn't added > (range 502100, 502128,). But I'm not quite sure what to do about that > because the packages-5-current directory is gone from the FTP sites. >=20 > Anyone know for sure? I don't suppose it really matters, as anyone running that version will not have that line anyway, and if they update then they won't be running that version any more. I think that what you committed is enough. Ceri --=20 Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Einstein (attrib.) --/NDiA4DbghPWII0p Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBqinZocfcwTS3JF8RAkp2AKDJw4ocuePOl99GRK+vpQQ/dgxpBQCePs3M tRK8OLq88nD0q98BReLhY7o= =xI/f -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --/NDiA4DbghPWII0p-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 28 20:45:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 499B116A4CE for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 20:45:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1E36543D5C for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 20:45:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 22603 invoked by uid 65534); 28 Nov 2004 20:45:12 -0000 Received: from pD95D8F14.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO lofi.dyndns.org) (217.93.143.20) by mail.gmx.net (mp002) with SMTP; 28 Nov 2004 21:45:12 +0100 X-Authenticated: #443188 Received: from [192.168.8.4] (lofi@kiste.my.domain [192.168.8.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by lofi.dyndns.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iASKixMo006272 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 21:45:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) From: Michael Nottebrock To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 21:44:53 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2305331.Ijol9Ftxoz"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200411282144.56438.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Subject: help! bad filesystem summary trashes system X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 20:45:15 -0000 --nextPart2305331.Ijol9Ftxoz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Somehow my /usr filesystem ended up being corrupted in such a way that it's= =20 now recognized as 11 terabytes big and with -11tb free... fsck fails with=20 "Cannot alloc 1683933532 bytes for inphead" and when I mount the corrupted = fs=20 as it is, running pretty much any program completely freezes the system=20 (5.3-RELEASE-p1). What can I do now to make fsck work? I'm amazed something like this can hap= pen=20 at all. :-( =2D-=20 ,_, | Michael Nottebrock | lofi@freebsd.org (/^ ^\) | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve | http://www.freebsd.org \u/ | K Desktop Environment on FreeBSD | http://freebsd.kde.org --nextPart2305331.Ijol9Ftxoz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBqjjIXhc68WspdLARAjFDAKCaKdhvc6tXylkaz/pz3ncLIw4r8gCgk3xg u5gyJReMKWfqV+13Nl5dZz0= =xJgx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2305331.Ijol9Ftxoz-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 28 21:10:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D3DA16A4CE for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 21:10:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out007.verizon.net (out007pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.107]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDF2A43D55 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 21:10:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Michael.Stassen@verizon.net) Received: from [192.168.0.7] ([68.163.136.245]) by out007.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20041128211018.VPTT1327.out007.verizon.net@[192.168.0.7]>; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 15:10:18 -0600 Message-ID: <41AA3EB8.2010900@verizon.net> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 16:10:16 -0500 From: Michael Stassen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ricardo David Martins References: <653eec63041128081510919824@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <653eec63041128081510919824@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out007.verizon.net from [68.163.136.245] at Sun, 28 Nov 2004 15:10:17 -0600 cc: mysql@lists.mysql.com cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fatal error: Can't open privilege tables: File '/usr/local/share/mysql/charsets/?.conf' not found (Errcode: 2) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 21:10:19 -0000 Have you run mysql_install_db yet? Have you read the freebsd platform notes and the post-install instructions ? If not, I'd suggest starting there. If that doesn't help, write back with some more details, such as: Is this your first attempt to start the server after install? When you say, "the binary freebsd package," which do you mean, one of the two from mysql.com, or the packages from freebsd.org? You mention configuration. What, if any, configuration have you done? (Mysql ought to start fine with default settings.) Michael Ricardo David Martins wrote: > Hi > > I am trying to run mysql 4.0.21 server on a freeBSD 5.3 box. I tried > to run mysqld_safe to add a root password but i can't seem to run the > safe command because it shuts down immediately. > > The following error is presented to me: > > Fatal error: Can't open privilege tables: File > '/usr/local/share/mysql/charsets/?.conf' not found (Errcode: 2) > > I would like it to load the latin1.conf charset. > > I can't find any variable that influences this choice. Probably there > is something not configured or the configuration isn't supported. > Anyway I would like to know how to choose this. I installed the binary > freebsd package which is suppose to be very reliable to a quick start. > > Thanks > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 28 21:25:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E5DD16A4CE for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 21:25:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8825843D39 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 21:25:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 15738 invoked by uid 65534); 28 Nov 2004 21:25:45 -0000 Received: from pD95D8F14.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO lofi.dyndns.org) (217.93.143.20) by mail.gmx.net (mp005) with SMTP; 28 Nov 2004 22:25:45 +0100 X-Authenticated: #443188 Received: from [192.168.8.4] (lofi@kiste.my.domain [192.168.8.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by lofi.dyndns.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iASLPdMo006810 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 28 Nov 2004 22:25:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) From: Michael Nottebrock To: Peter Jeremy Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 22:25:29 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.1 References: <200411282144.56438.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> <20041128210746.GN32181@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> In-Reply-To: <20041128210746.GN32181@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2359607.Np88InSshu"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200411282225.36617.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: help! bad filesystem summary trashes system X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 21:25:47 -0000 --nextPart2359607.Np88InSshu Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday, 28. November 2004 22:07, Peter Jeremy wrote: > On 2004-Nov-28 21:44:53 +0100, Michael Nottebrock=20 wrote: > >Somehow my /usr filesystem ended up being corrupted in such a way that > > it's now recognized as 11 terabytes big and with -11tb free... > > What happened beforehand? Was this after a clean shutdown, normal crash, > power failure or what? I can't really tell. I noticed something was wrong when the system started = to=20 hang when trying to bring the network interfaces up (I have background=20 fsck-enabled, so the bad /usr partition got mounted and as a result, dhclie= nt=20 just hangs, like anything else). > You could try using dumpfs(8) to look at the super block contents. > > Have you tried telling fsck to use an alternate super block (-b option)? I found an alternate superblock at 128, but using it gives the same error. > If it's just a glitch that's affected the primary super block, this > should work. If the in-core data got corrupted and has been written to > all the superblocks, you might need to play with a filesystem editor. Can you suggest such an editor (and possibly give some hints what exactly t= o=20 do with it)?=20 =2D-=20 ,_, | Michael Nottebrock | lofi@freebsd.org (/^ ^\) | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve | http://www.freebsd.org \u/ | K Desktop Environment on FreeBSD | http://freebsd.kde.org --nextPart2359607.Np88InSshu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBqkJQXhc68WspdLARApa6AKCH9bXOEbAM0mk9dbj1VqyWx2esYQCeKc7L jzULWQFG1hi5leIYVHdKJOI= =hrYx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2359607.Np88InSshu-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 28 23:07:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2EB616A4CE for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 23:07:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-dienst.rz.rwth-aachen.de (ms-2.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.3.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72CD643D46 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 23:07:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@unixpages.org) Received: from r220-1 (r220-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.3.31]) by ms-dienst.rz.rwth-aachen.de (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.12 (built Feb 13 2003)) with ESMTP id <0I7W00BGSW802A@ms-dienst.rz.rwth-aachen.de> for stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 00:07:12 +0100 (MET) Received: from relay.rwth-aachen.de ([134.130.3.1]) by r220-1 (MailMonitor for SMTP v1.2.2 ) ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 00:07:11 +0100 (MET) Received: from haakonia.hitnet.rwth-aachen.de (haakonia.hitnet.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.181.92])iASN7BUV014712 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 00:07:11 +0100 (MET) Received: from gondor.middleearth (gondor.middleearth [192.168.1.42]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits))(Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A68D28442 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 00:07:06 +0100 (CET) Received: by gondor.middleearth (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 080B622859; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 00:07:05 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 00:07:05 +0100 From: Christian Brueffer To: stable@freebsd.org Message-id: <20041128230705.GC16796@unixpages.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/signed; boundary=bKyqfOwhbdpXa4YI; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT X-PGP-Key: http://people.freebsd.org/~brueffer/brueffer.key.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: A5C8 2099 19FF AACA F41B B29B 6C76 178C A0ED 982D Subject: panic: lock (sleep mutex) inp not locked X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 23:07:19 -0000 --bKyqfOwhbdpXa4YI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, got this panic today on an SMP system. Modifications to the kernel are polling and altq support for the sf driver and removed SMP ifdefs from sys/kern/kern_poll.c. FreeBSD haakonia.hitnet.RWTH-Aachen.DE 5.3-STABLE FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE #61: S= at Nov 27 02:59:01 CET 2004 chris@haakonia.hitnet.RWTH-Aachen.DE:/usr/home/build/usr/home/build/src/sys= /LORIEN i386 Sources are from November 22nd. Crashdump and debug kernel are available for further investigation. panic: lock (sleep mutex) inp not locked @ /usr/home/build/src/sys/netinet/= tcp_input.c:2521 cpuid =3D 1 KDB: enter: panic [thread 100034] Stopped at kdb_enter+0x2b: nop db> tr kdb_enter(c06c6c54) at kdb_enter+0x2b panic(c06caa02,c06db3d0,c06d57ce,c06d2493,9d9) at panic+0x127 witness_unlock(c3f4d57c,8,c06d2493,9d9) at witness_unlock+0xbc _mtx_unlock_flags(c3f4d57c,0,c06d2493,9d9,0) at _mtx_unlock_flags+0x5b tcp_input(c44bb000,14,5cb5e289,0,0) at tcp_input+0x2fb0 ip_input(c44bb000) at ip_input+0x52d netisr_dispatch(2,c44bb000,0,c44b0800,c1a93c00) at netisr_dispatch+0x58 ether_demux(c1a93c00,c44bb000,297,96,d74f6400) at ether_demux+0x292 ether_input(c1a93c00,c44bb000,c1a93e84,0,c0833d13) at ether_input+0x269 sf_rxeof(c1a93c00,c1a93c00,c1a93e84,c07276c0,d543ecbc) at sf_rxeof+0x183 sf_poll_locked(c1a93c00,0,5,c1a93e84,0) at sf_poll_locked+0x6b sf_poll(c1a93c00,0,5) at sf_poll+0x2e netisr_poll(0) at netisr_poll+0x188 swi_net(0) at swi_net+0x81 ithread_loop(c19e1080,d543ed48,c19e1080,c051aa34,0) at ithread_loop+0x124 fork_exit(c051aa34,c19e1080,d543ed48) at fork_exit+0xa4 fork_trampoline() at fork_trampoline+0x8 --- trap 0x1, eip =3D 0, esp =3D 0xd543ed7c, ebp =3D 0 --- db> show locks exclusive sleep mutex tcp r =3D 0 (0xc0755dac) locked @ /usr/home/build/src/sys/netinet/tcp_input.c:617 exclusive sleep mutex Giant r =3D 1 (0xc0728320) locked @ /usr/home/build/src/sys/kern/kern_poll.c:332 db> show pcpu cpuid =3D 1 curthread =3D 0xc19e3640: pid 38 "swi1: net" curpcb =3D 0xd543eda0 fpcurthread =3D none idlethread =3D 0xc19a84b0: pid 11 "idle: cpu1" APIC ID =3D 1 currentldt =3D 0x28 spin locks held: db> - Christian --=20 Christian Brueffer chris@unixpages.org brueffer@FreeBSD.org GPG Key: http://people.freebsd.org/~brueffer/brueffer.key.asc GPG Fingerprint: A5C8 2099 19FF AACA F41B B29B 6C76 178C A0ED 982D --bKyqfOwhbdpXa4YI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBqloZbHYXjKDtmC0RAleAAKDR55gjQBmEcQQdf73bpcN1HfaGWgCg1Nj9 BKmdZkKpkheK/PXejeRrigk= =yzeR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --bKyqfOwhbdpXa4YI-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 28 23:34:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5057816A4CE for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 23:34:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp005.bizmail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp005.bizmail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.175.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2B74543D4C for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 23:34:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from noackjr@alumni.rice.edu) Received: from unknown (HELO optimator.noacks.org) (noackjr@supercrime.org@70.240.198.174 with login) by smtp005.bizmail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Nov 2004 23:34:25 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimator.noacks.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7F61618E; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 17:34:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from optimator.noacks.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (optimator.noacks.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 12929-05; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 17:34:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from compgeek.noacks.org (compgeek [192.168.1.10]) by optimator.noacks.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B823F617C; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 17:34:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by compgeek.noacks.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iASNYKhH067125; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 17:34:21 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from noackjr@alumni.rice.edu) Message-ID: <41AA607C.80606@alumni.rice.edu> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 17:34:20 -0600 From: Jon Noack User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041128) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christian Brueffer References: <20041128230705.GC16796@unixpages.org> In-Reply-To: <20041128230705.GC16796@unixpages.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at noacks.org cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: panic: lock (sleep mutex) inp not locked X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: noackjr@alumni.rice.edu List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 23:34:26 -0000 On 11/28/04 17:07, Christian Brueffer wrote: > Hi, > > got this panic today on an SMP system. Modifications to the kernel are > polling and altq support for the sf driver and removed SMP ifdefs from > sys/kern/kern_poll.c. > > FreeBSD haakonia.hitnet.RWTH-Aachen.DE 5.3-STABLE FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE #61: Sat Nov 27 02:59:01 CET 2004 > chris@haakonia.hitnet.RWTH-Aachen.DE:/usr/home/build/usr/home/build/src/sys/LORIEN i386 > > Sources are from November 22nd. > > Crashdump and debug kernel are available for further investigation. > > panic: lock (sleep mutex) inp not locked @ /usr/home/build/src/sys/netinet/tcp_input.c:2521 > cpuid = 1 > KDB: enter: panic > [thread 100034] > Stopped at kdb_enter+0x2b: nop > db> tr > kdb_enter(c06c6c54) at kdb_enter+0x2b > panic(c06caa02,c06db3d0,c06d57ce,c06d2493,9d9) at panic+0x127 > witness_unlock(c3f4d57c,8,c06d2493,9d9) at witness_unlock+0xbc > _mtx_unlock_flags(c3f4d57c,0,c06d2493,9d9,0) at _mtx_unlock_flags+0x5b > tcp_input(c44bb000,14,5cb5e289,0,0) at tcp_input+0x2fb0 > ip_input(c44bb000) at ip_input+0x52d > netisr_dispatch(2,c44bb000,0,c44b0800,c1a93c00) at netisr_dispatch+0x58 > ether_demux(c1a93c00,c44bb000,297,96,d74f6400) at ether_demux+0x292 > ether_input(c1a93c00,c44bb000,c1a93e84,0,c0833d13) at ether_input+0x269 > sf_rxeof(c1a93c00,c1a93c00,c1a93e84,c07276c0,d543ecbc) at sf_rxeof+0x183 > sf_poll_locked(c1a93c00,0,5,c1a93e84,0) at sf_poll_locked+0x6b > sf_poll(c1a93c00,0,5) at sf_poll+0x2e > netisr_poll(0) at netisr_poll+0x188 > swi_net(0) at swi_net+0x81 > ithread_loop(c19e1080,d543ed48,c19e1080,c051aa34,0) at > ithread_loop+0x124 > fork_exit(c051aa34,c19e1080,d543ed48) at fork_exit+0xa4 > fork_trampoline() at fork_trampoline+0x8 > --- trap 0x1, eip = 0, esp = 0xd543ed7c, ebp = 0 --- > db> show locks > exclusive sleep mutex tcp r = 0 (0xc0755dac) locked @ > /usr/home/build/src/sys/netinet/tcp_input.c:617 > exclusive sleep mutex Giant r = 1 (0xc0728320) locked @ > /usr/home/build/src/sys/kern/kern_poll.c:332 > db> show pcpu > cpuid = 1 > curthread = 0xc19e3640: pid 38 "swi1: net" > curpcb = 0xd543eda0 > fpcurthread = none > idlethread = 0xc19a84b0: pid 11 "idle: cpu1" > APIC ID = 1 > currentldt = 0x28 > spin locks held: > db> I successfully used polling on my SMP machine a while back, but it pessimized performance for my workloads so I disabled it. All I did was to wrap the SMP error in /sys/kern/kern_poll.c with #ifdef 0...#endif and everything worked. In any case, it seems rwatson@ is interested in polling on SMP; check out his netperf page (http://www.watson.org/~robert/freebsd/netperf/) for more info. Specifically, the following entry in his 20041103 patch is of interest: "A mutex to protect device polling state is introduced, pollmtx, and used to protect the global variables present in kern_poll.c. As a result, Giant is removed from the polling netisr code, and the #ifdef causing polling build to fail on SMP is removed. This has not been tested." No idea whether or not it works, but I thought I'd give you a heads up. Jon From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 28 23:53:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D86816A4CE for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 23:53:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-dienst.rz.rwth-aachen.de (ms-2.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.3.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3083043D2D for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 23:53:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@unixpages.org) Received: from r220-1 (r220-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.3.31]) by ms-dienst.rz.rwth-aachen.de (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.12 (built Feb 13 2003)) with ESMTP id <0I7W009NAYD6NH@ms-dienst.rz.rwth-aachen.de> for stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 00:53:31 +0100 (MET) Received: from relay.rwth-aachen.de ([134.130.3.1]) by r220-1 (MailMonitor for SMTP v1.2.2 ) ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 00:53:30 +0100 (MET) Received: from haakonia.hitnet.rwth-aachen.de (haakonia.hitnet.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.181.92])iASNrTad019597; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 00:53:30 +0100 (MET) Received: from gondor.middleearth (gondor.middleearth [192.168.1.42]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits))(Postfix) with ESMTP id 35E0328442; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 00:53:24 +0100 (CET) Received: by gondor.middleearth (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 87D2722859; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 00:53:23 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 00:53:23 +0100 From: Christian Brueffer In-reply-to: <41AA607C.80606@alumni.rice.edu> To: Jon Noack Message-id: <20041128235323.GD16796@unixpages.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/signed; boundary="at6+YcpfzWZg/htY"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT X-PGP-Key: http://people.freebsd.org/~brueffer/brueffer.key.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: A5C8 2099 19FF AACA F41B B29B 6C76 178C A0ED 982D References: <20041128230705.GC16796@unixpages.org> <41AA607C.80606@alumni.rice.edu> cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: panic: lock (sleep mutex) inp not locked X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 23:53:32 -0000 --at6+YcpfzWZg/htY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 05:34:20PM -0600, Jon Noack wrote: > On 11/28/04 17:07, Christian Brueffer wrote: >=20 > I successfully used polling on my SMP machine a while back, but it=20 > pessimized performance for my workloads so I disabled it. All I did was= =20 > to wrap the SMP error in /sys/kern/kern_poll.c with #ifdef 0...#endif=20 > and everything worked. Worked here as well. I don't think polling actually caused to panic, I'm just mentioning for a full picture. >=20 > In any case, it seems rwatson@ is interested in polling on SMP; check=20 > out his netperf page (http://www.watson.org/~robert/freebsd/netperf/)=20 > for more info. Specifically, the following entry in his 20041103 patch= =20 > is of interest: >=20 > "A mutex to protect device polling state is introduced, pollmtx, and > used to protect the global variables present in kern_poll.c. As a > result, Giant is removed from the polling netisr code, and the > #ifdef causing polling build to fail on SMP is removed. This has > not been tested." >=20 > No idea whether or not it works, but I thought I'd give you a heads up. >=20 I've tested those and I'm actually trying to track down a related panic at the moment (didn't want to bother Robert with it for the moment, he's busy enough :-)). - Christian --=20 Christian Brueffer chris@unixpages.org brueffer@FreeBSD.org GPG Key: http://people.freebsd.org/~brueffer/brueffer.key.asc GPG Fingerprint: A5C8 2099 19FF AACA F41B B29B 6C76 178C A0ED 982D --at6+YcpfzWZg/htY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBqmTzbHYXjKDtmC0RAvZvAKCV9XEQ7T8jWIE2jhOIuTqlA+UGwwCgnGdj 4Uff+iJ6sFjQ8s4Nf9WTAzY= =BB/+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --at6+YcpfzWZg/htY-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 00:38:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0008616A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 00:38:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A590143D1D for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 00:38:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from [192.168.1.250] (pool-68-161-115-118.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.115.118]) by pi.codefab.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iAT0c7je073016 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 28 Nov 2004 19:38:10 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <41AA6F6E.1080809@mac.com> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 19:38:06 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ivan Voras References: <41A60264.30109@fer.hr> In-Reply-To: <41A60264.30109@fer.hr> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.6 required=5.5 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on pi.codefab.com cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Huge slapd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 00:38:25 -0000 Ivan Voras wrote: > After a few days of mostly test load, top reports that the slapd process > (OpenLDAP server) is huge: > > 439 ldap 20 0 149M 6128K kserel 0:07 0.00% 0.00% slapd > > I know that the actually used memory size is the 6MB figure above, but > why does it allocate almost 150MB? Is it normal? This sounds like a classic example of a memory leak. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 00:44:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A72A816A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 00:44:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from moghedien.mukappabeta.net (moghedien.mukappabeta.net [194.145.150.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CFAD43D55 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 00:44:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mkb@mukappabeta.de) Received: from [192.168.2.10] (pD9E687E3.dip.t-dialin.net [217.230.135.227]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by moghedien.mukappabeta.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0154D2D66; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 01:39:50 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41AA70E3.2000108@mukappabeta.de> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 01:44:19 +0100 From: Matthias Buelow User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041124) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pertti Kosunen References: <51611.192.168.0.200.1101398532.squirrel@192.168.0.200> <87zn15zoqo.fsf@basilikum.skogtun.org> <41A63A78.2030506@mukappabeta.de> <41A9CC27.3030408@saunalahti.fi> In-Reply-To: <41A9CC27.3030408@saunalahti.fi> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: the best graphicscard for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 00:44:24 -0000 Pertti Kosunen wrote: >> The newer cards work very well. I have a X800se PCI-Express card and >> it works like a charm with X.org 6.8.1 on 5.3. The only thing that's >> > Isn't that pretty expencive for 2d use? Yes.. that's why I also have Windows installed for a game every now and then. I just wanted to point out that the current generation Radeons do, in contrast to what has been claimed before, actually work with the current Xorg release (which unfortunately hasn't arrived in ports yet, as it seems, but is available via patchsets from the ports maintainer). With "work", I mean, solid 2d performance (supported by the radeon driver, not Vesa). I see 3d support as a nice add-on but not as the core functionality. -- Matthias Buelow; mkb@{mukappabeta,informatik.uni-wuerzburg}.de From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 00:45:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57D5816A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 00:45:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailout2.barnet.com.au (mailout2.barnet.com.au [218.185.88.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88F5243D49 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 00:45:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from edwin@mavetju.org) Received: by mailout2.barnet.com.au (Postfix, from userid 27) id 31F9D70744D; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 11:45:48 +1100 (EST) X-Viruscan-Id: <41AA713C0000244B3335E6@BarNet> Received: from mail2-auth.barnet.com.au (mailout2.barnet.com.au [218.185.88.16]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) Authority" (verified OK)) by mail2.barnet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id D449B70744B; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 11:45:47 +1100 (EST) Received: from k7.mavetju (edwin-3.int.barnet.com.au [10.10.12.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) Certificate Authority" (verified OK)) by mail2-auth.barnet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A4C570743F; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 11:45:47 +1100 (EST) Received: by k7.mavetju (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 596F5613F; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 11:45:46 +1100 (EST) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 11:45:46 +1100 From: Edwin Groothuis To: Chuck Swiger Message-ID: <20041129004546.GA1541@k7.mavetju> References: <41A60264.30109@fer.hr> <41AA6F6E.1080809@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41AA6F6E.1080809@mac.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: Ivan Voras Subject: Re: Huge slapd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 00:45:50 -0000 On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 07:38:06PM -0500, Chuck Swiger wrote: > Ivan Voras wrote: > >After a few days of mostly test load, top reports that the slapd process > >(OpenLDAP server) is huge: > > > >439 ldap 20 0 149M 6128K kserel 0:07 0.00% 0.00% slapd > > > >I know that the actually used memory size is the 6MB figure above, but > >why does it allocate almost 150MB? Is it normal? > > This sounds like a classic example of a memory leak. Had the same before I moved to openldap 2.2 Edwin -- Edwin Groothuis | Personal website: http://www.mavetju.org edwin@mavetju.org | Weblog: http://weblog.barnet.com.au/edwin/ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 00:50:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60C6016A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 00:50:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.village.org [168.103.84.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B34BC43D41 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 00:50:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by harmony.village.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iAT0motL021918; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 17:48:50 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 17:49:46 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <20041128.174946.105188774.imp@bsdimp.com> To: _pppp@mail.ru From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: References: <02a201c4d2b7$451a82f0$cbc1a10a@Curs3> X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.2 -> 5.3 without single mode? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 00:50:20 -0000 In message: dima <_pppp@mail.ru> writes: : > Is it possible to cvsup from 5.2 to 5.3 without booting in single mode? : > I have a remote machine and want update it, but it is no console access, : > only SSH. : You don't actually need to reboot in single-user mode. Just make sure your users wouldn't use the server hard during the : # mergemaster -p : # make installworld : # mergemaster : cycle. You can basically disable all the services but sshd for that task & enable them again after the second reboot. While you don't NEED to go into single user (I do the above all the time), you are setting yourself up to get screwed the first time that a new, common system call is introudced... Warner From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 00:59:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A57D116A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 00:59:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91.asp.att.net [204.127.203.211]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2194F43D5A for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 00:59:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from [10.0.0.4] (12-216-243-9.client.mchsi.com[12.216.243.9]) by sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91) with ESMTP id <20041129005910m9100cdtkje>; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 00:59:10 +0000 Message-ID: <41AA745E.3070400@math.missouri.edu> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 18:59:10 -0600 From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041116 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org References: <02a201c4d2b7$451a82f0$cbc1a10a@Curs3> <20041128.174946.105188774.imp@bsdimp.com> In-Reply-To: <20041128.174946.105188774.imp@bsdimp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 5.2 -> 5.3 without single mode? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 00:59:11 -0000 M. Warner Losh wrote: > In message: > dima <_pppp@mail.ru> writes: > : > Is it possible to cvsup from 5.2 to 5.3 without booting in single mode? > : > I have a remote machine and want update it, but it is no console access, > : > only SSH. > : You don't actually need to reboot in single-user mode. Just make sure your users wouldn't use the server hard during the > : # mergemaster -p > : # make installworld > : # mergemaster > : cycle. You can basically disable all the services but sshd for that task & enable them again after the second reboot. > > While you don't NEED to go into single user (I do the above all the > time), you are setting yourself up to get screwed the first time that > a new, common system call is introudced... > So if there is a new common system call introduced, will it arrive with a nice entry in UPDATING plus a HEADS UP? Stephen From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 01:04:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33DA116A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 01:04:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freebee.digiware.nl (dsl439.iae.nl [212.61.63.187]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A42A943D2D for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 01:04:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wjw@withagen.nl) Received: from [212.61.27.71] (dual.digiware.nl [212.61.27.71]) by freebee.digiware.nl (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iAT14agI080182 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 02:04:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wjw@withagen.nl) Message-ID: <41AA75A5.3050706@withagen.nl> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 02:04:37 +0100 From: Willem Jan Withagen User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: same interrupts on uhc and em0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 01:04:40 -0000 Hi, Got this intel r1300 dual processor server with 2 Em inerfaces and a lot of usb ports, 2Gb and en Promise Fastrack TX2000 Problem is that when em0 gets an interrupt, it also shows up on the USB controller. top shows the exact same amounts of interrupt at both every time over. Which has a lickelyhood of less than zero. Is this more common, and if so: what might fix it. --WjW uname: FreeBSD pc78.digiware.nl 5.3-STABLE FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE #2: Sat Nov 27 02:23:02 CET 2004 root@horses.digiware.nl:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/INTEL1300 i386 dmesg: Copyright (c) 1992-2004 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE #2: Sat Nov 27 02:23:02 CET 2004 root@horses.digiware.nl:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/INTEL1300 Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.80GHz (2791.01-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf25 Stepping = 5 Features=0xbfebfbff Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs real memory = 2147418112 (2047 MB) avail memory = 2100129792 (2002 MB) ACPI APIC Table: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 6 ACPI-0697: *** Warning: Type override - [DEB_] had invalid type (Integer) for Scope operator, changed to (Scope) ACPI-0697: *** Warning: Type override - [MLIB] had invalid type (Integer) for Scope operator, changed to (Scope) ACPI-0697: *** Warning: Type override - [DATA] had invalid type (String) for Scope operator, changed to (Scope) ACPI-0697: *** Warning: Type override - [SIO_] had invalid type (String) for Scope operator, changed to (Scope) ACPI-0697: *** Warning: Type override - [LEDP] had invalid type (String) for Scope operator, changed to (Scope) ACPI-0697: *** Warning: Type override - [GPEN] had invalid type (String) for Scope operator, changed to (Scope) ACPI-0697: *** Warning: Type override - [GPST] had invalid type (String) for Scope operator, changed to (Scope) ACPI-0697: *** Warning: Type override - [WUES] had invalid type (String) for Scope operator, changed to (Scope) ACPI-0697: *** Warning: Type override - [WUSE] had invalid type (String) for Scope operator, changed to (Scope) ACPI-0697: *** Warning: Type override - [SBID] had invalid type (String) for Scope operator, changed to (Scope) ACPI-0697: *** Warning: Type override - [SWCE] had invalid type (String) for Scope operator, changed to (Scope) ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard ioapic1 irqs 24-47 on motherboard ioapic2 irqs 48-71 on motherboard lapic0: Forcing LINT1 to edge trigger npx0: [FAST] npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) acpi_ec0: port 0xca7,0xca6 on acpi0 Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x408-0x40b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 cpu1: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pci0: at device 0.1 (no driver attached) pcib1: at device 3.0 on pci0 pci2: on pcib1 pci2: at device 28.0 (no driver attached) pcib2: at device 29.0 on pci2 pci4: on pcib2 pci2: at device 30.0 (no driver attached) pcib3: at device 31.0 on pci2 pci3: on pcib3 em0: port 0x2040-0x207f mem 0xfe8c0000-0xfe8dffff irq 30 at device 7.0 on pci3 em0: Ethernet address: 00:07:e9:24:b2:44 em0: Speed:N/A Duplex:N/A em1: port 0x2000-0x203f mem 0xfe8e0000-0xfe8fffff irq 31 at device 7.1 on pci3 em1: Ethernet address: 00:07:e9:24:b2:45 em1: Speed:N/A Duplex:N/A pci0: at device 3.1 (no driver attached) uhci0: port 0x3020-0x303f irq 16 at device 29.0 on pci0 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0x3000-0x301f irq 19 at device 29.1 on pci0 uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered pcib4: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib4 atapci0: port 0x1420-0x142f,0x140c-0x140f,0x1410-0x1417,0x1408-0x140b,0x1400-0x1407 mem 0xfe5e0000-0xfe5e3fff irq 18 at device 2.0 on pci1 ata2: channel #0 on atapci0 ata3: channel #1 on atapci0 pci1: at device 12.0 (no driver attached) isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci1: port 0x3a0-0x3af,0x376,0x170-0x177,0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 31.1 on pci0 ata0: channel #0 on atapci1 ata1: channel #1 on atapci1 pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) atkbdc0: port 0x64,0x60 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] fdc0: port 0x3f7,0x3f4-0x3f5,0x3f2-0x3f3 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: [FAST] fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A sio1: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on acpi0 sio1: type 16550A orm0: at iomem 0xc8000-0xd17ff,0xc0000-0xc7fff on isa0 pmtimer0 on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec ipfw2 initialized, divert disabled, rule-based forwarding disabled, default to accept, logging limited to 100 packets/entry by default acd0: CDROM at ata1-master UDMA33 ad4: 114473MB [232581/16/63] at ata2-master UDMA100 ad6: 114473MB [232581/16/63] at ata3-master UDMA100 ar0: 114473MB [14593/255/63] status: READY subdisks: disk0 READY on ad4 at ata2-master disk1 READY on ad6 at ata3-master lapic6: Forcing LINT1 to edge trigger SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ar0s2a em0: Link is up 100 Mbps Full Duplex config: machine i386 cpu I686_CPU ident INTEL1300 # To statically compile in device wiring instead of /boot/device.hints #hints "GENERIC.hints" # Default places to look for devices. options SCHED_4BSD # 4BSD scheduler options INET # InterNETworking options INET6 # IPv6 communications protocols options FFS # Berkeley Fast Filesystem options SOFTUPDATES # Enable FFS soft updates support options UFS_ACL # Support for access control lists options UFS_DIRHASH # Improve performance on big directories options NFSCLIENT # Network Filesystem Client options NFSSERVER # Network Filesystem Server options CD9660 # ISO 9660 Filesystem options PROCFS # Process filesystem (requires PSEUDOFS) options PSEUDOFS # Pseudo-filesystem framework options GEOM_GPT # GUID Partition Tables. options COMPAT_43 # Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options COMPAT_FREEBSD4 # Compatible with FreeBSD4 options SCSI_DELAY=5000 # Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI options KTRACE # ktrace(1) support options SYSVSHM # SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG # SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM # SYSV-style semaphores options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING # POSIX P1003_1B real-time extensions options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev options ADAPTIVE_GIANT # Giant mutex is adaptive. device apic # I/O APIC # Bus support. Do not remove isa, even if you have no isa slots device isa device pci # Floppy drives device fdc # ATA and ATAPI devices device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives device ataraid # ATA RAID drives device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives options ATA_STATIC_ID # Static device numbering # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse device atkbdc # AT keyboard controller device atkbd # AT keyboard device psm # PS/2 mouse device vga # VGA video card driver # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc device agp # support several AGP chipsets # Floating point support - do not disable. device npx # Power management support (see NOTES for more options) #device apm # Add suspend/resume support for the i8254. device pmtimer # Serial (COM) ports device sio # 8250, 16[45]50 based serial ports # PCI Ethernet NICs. device em # Intel PRO/1000 adapter Gigabit Ethernet Card device miibus # MII bus support device fxp # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558) # Pseudo devices. device loop # Network loopback device mem # Memory and kernel memory devices device io # I/O device device random # Entropy device device ether # Ethernet support device tun # Packet tunnel. device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) device gif # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling device faith # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation) # The `bpf' device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this! device bpf # Berkeley packet filter device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface device usb # USB Bus (required) device ugen # Generic device uhid # "Human Interface Devices" device ukbd # Keyboard device ums # Mouse options INCLUDE_CONFIG_FILE options SCHED_4BSD options SMP #options PREEMPTION #options FULL_PREEMPTION options KDB options KDB_TRACE options KDB_UNATTENDED options DDB options DDB_NUMSYM options IPFIREWALL options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100 options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT options MSGBUF_SIZE=40960 options COMPAT_LINUX options COMPAT_AOUT options LINPROCFS From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 01:16:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07C6816A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 01:16:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92.asp.att.net [204.127.203.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADD3F43D39 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 01:16:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from [10.0.0.4] (12-216-243-9.client.mchsi.com[12.216.243.9]) by sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92) with ESMTP id <20041129011613m9200k0qp0e>; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 01:16:13 +0000 Message-ID: <41AA785C.5020304@math.missouri.edu> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 19:16:12 -0600 From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041116 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Beastie X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 01:16:14 -0000 It is with a little intrepidation that I ask this question, because I sense that what I am about to ask might push some buttons, or perhaps bring back some unpleasant memories of those who have asked what I am going to ask in a less tactful manner. I find that the beastie that appears at boot time with FreeBSD 5.3 mildly bothers me. It is possible for me to edit boot/beastie.4th, but this gets put back each time I do make installworld. Would it be possible to add a variable "show_beastie" to be put in /boot/loader.conf, which would default to "YES", but users could add in show_beastie="NO" if they didn't want it, but only want the menu. I am sure that this is a sensitive subject with you guys, because I know that you have no intention of associating FreeBSD with satanism or anything like that. It is not my intention to apply any kind of label of evil to you guys, indeed I find FreeBSD to be a very fine operating system, and I use it all the time. But the symbol which is commonly associated with the devil does cause me some discomfort, and for example, if I were to install some kind of server for my church, I think that it would bother them as well. I know that the the symbol of the beastie is strongly associated with FreeBSD, and that it would be grossly unfair for me to ask for it to be removed just because of my personal discomfort. That is why I am proposing the solution above. I think that it would be easy to implement by anyone who knows Forth (presuming that the loader.conf variables are known to the beastie.4th program), and that this would not interfere at all with those who don't mind or enjoy the beastie, but it would also help people like me in an unobtrusive manner. Best, Stephen From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 01:18:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FD6516A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 01:18:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C33DC43D5C for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 01:18:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EA917512AF; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 17:23:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 17:23:40 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Stephen Montgomery-Smith Message-ID: <20041129012340.GA24768@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <41AA785C.5020304@math.missouri.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41AA785C.5020304@math.missouri.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Beastie X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 01:18:47 -0000 --mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 07:16:12PM -0600, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > It is with a little intrepidation that I ask this question, because I=20 > sense that what I am about to ask might push some buttons, or perhaps=20 > bring back some unpleasant memories of those who have asked what I am=20 > going to ask in a less tactful manner. >=20 > I find that the beastie that appears at boot time with FreeBSD 5.3=20 > mildly bothers me. It is possible for me to edit boot/beastie.4th, but= =20 > this gets put back each time I do make installworld. >=20 > Would it be possible to add a variable "show_beastie" to be put in=20 > /boot/loader.conf, which would default to "YES", but users could add in= =20 > show_beastie=3D"NO" if they didn't want it, but only want the menu. That option is already there, you didn't look hard enough. Kris --mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBqnocWry0BWjoQKURAnrEAJ4q42LMTtYpc1nyN5hRF5jmuHLlMQCg9pHq 3Gw4tEXR23t5quAzLHjb0Hw= =fMuv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 01:19:05 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF4AE16A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 01:19:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76FAF43D39 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 01:19:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scottl@freebsd.org) Received: from [192.168.254.11] (junior-wifi.samsco.home [192.168.254.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iAT1MSsQ098471; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 18:22:28 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from scottl@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <41AA7921.9090703@freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 18:19:29 -0700 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040929 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Willem Jan Withagen References: <41AA75A5.3050706@withagen.nl> In-Reply-To: <41AA75A5.3050706@withagen.nl> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=3.8 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on pooker.samsco.org cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: same interrupts on uhc and em0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 01:19:05 -0000 Willem Jan Withagen wrote: > Hi, > > Got this intel r1300 dual processor server with 2 Em inerfaces and a lot > of usb ports, 2Gb and en Promise Fastrack TX2000 > > Problem is that when em0 gets an interrupt, it also shows up on the USB > controller. top shows the exact same amounts of interrupt at both every > time over. Which has a lickelyhood of less than zero. > > Is this more common, and if so: what might fix it. > > --WjW This is a common problem, and unfortunately there hasn't been much movement in fixing it. I'd highly suggest disabling USB in the BIOS if you don't need it. Scott From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 01:20:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DDEA16A508 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 01:20:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp003.bizmail.yahoo.com (smtp003.bizmail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F3EB343D1F for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 01:20:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from noackjr@alumni.rice.edu) Received: from unknown (HELO optimator.noacks.org) (noackjr@supercrime.org@70.240.198.174 with login) by smtp003.bizmail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Nov 2004 01:20:43 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimator.noacks.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6513614E; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 19:20:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from optimator.noacks.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (optimator.noacks.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 12929-12-3; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 19:20:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from compgeek.noacks.org (compgeek [192.168.1.10]) by optimator.noacks.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27CB2614D; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 19:20:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by compgeek.noacks.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iAT1Kerp092706; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 19:20:41 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from noackjr@alumni.rice.edu) Message-ID: <41AA7968.2030601@alumni.rice.edu> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 19:20:40 -0600 From: Jon Noack User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041128) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stephen Montgomery-Smith References: <41AA785C.5020304@math.missouri.edu> In-Reply-To: <41AA785C.5020304@math.missouri.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at noacks.org cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Beastie X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: noackjr@alumni.rice.edu List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 01:20:44 -0000 On 11/28/04 19:16, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > It is with a little intrepidation that I ask this question, because I > sense that what I am about to ask might push some buttons, or perhaps > bring back some unpleasant memories of those who have asked what I am > going to ask in a less tactful manner. > > I find that the beastie that appears at boot time with FreeBSD 5.3 > mildly bothers me. It is possible for me to edit boot/beastie.4th, but > this gets put back each time I do make installworld. > > Would it be possible to add a variable "show_beastie" to be put in > /boot/loader.conf, which would default to "YES", but users could add in > show_beastie="NO" if they didn't want it, but only want the menu. > > I am sure that this is a sensitive subject with you guys, because I know > that you have no intention of associating FreeBSD with satanism or > anything like that. It is not my intention to apply any kind of label > of evil to you guys, indeed I find FreeBSD to be a very fine operating > system, and I use it all the time. But the symbol which is commonly > associated with the devil does cause me some discomfort, and for > example, if I were to install some kind of server for my church, I think > that it would bother them as well. > > I know that the the symbol of the beastie is strongly associated with > FreeBSD, and that it would be grossly unfair for me to ask for it to be > removed just because of my personal discomfort. > > That is why I am proposing the solution above. I think that it would be > easy to implement by anyone who knows Forth (presuming that the > loader.conf variables are known to the beastie.4th program), and that > this would not interfere at all with those who don't mind or enjoy the > beastie, but it would also help people like me in an unobtrusive manner. Throw 'beastie_disable="YES"' into /boot/loader.conf. Jon From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 01:22:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE1A516A4D0 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 01:22:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A9F743D31 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 01:22:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scottl@freebsd.org) Received: from [192.168.254.11] (junior-wifi.samsco.home [192.168.254.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iAT1Q04u098498; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 18:26:00 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from scottl@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <41AA79FA.6070603@freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 18:23:06 -0700 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040929 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stephen Montgomery-Smith References: <41AA785C.5020304@math.missouri.edu> In-Reply-To: <41AA785C.5020304@math.missouri.edu> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=3.8 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on pooker.samsco.org cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Beastie X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 01:22:40 -0000 Add the following to /boot/loader.conf: beastie_disable=YES You can also remove the following lines from /boot/loader.4th: \ Load in the boot menu include /boot/beastie.4th \ Start the boot menu beastie-start Scott Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > It is with a little intrepidation that I ask this question, because I > sense that what I am about to ask might push some buttons, or perhaps > bring back some unpleasant memories of those who have asked what I am > going to ask in a less tactful manner. > > I find that the beastie that appears at boot time with FreeBSD 5.3 > mildly bothers me. It is possible for me to edit boot/beastie.4th, but > this gets put back each time I do make installworld. > > Would it be possible to add a variable "show_beastie" to be put in > /boot/loader.conf, which would default to "YES", but users could add in > show_beastie="NO" if they didn't want it, but only want the menu. > > I am sure that this is a sensitive subject with you guys, because I know > that you have no intention of associating FreeBSD with satanism or > anything like that. It is not my intention to apply any kind of label > of evil to you guys, indeed I find FreeBSD to be a very fine operating > system, and I use it all the time. But the symbol which is commonly > associated with the devil does cause me some discomfort, and for > example, if I were to install some kind of server for my church, I think > that it would bother them as well. > > I know that the the symbol of the beastie is strongly associated with > FreeBSD, and that it would be grossly unfair for me to ask for it to be > removed just because of my personal discomfort. > > That is why I am proposing the solution above. I think that it would be > easy to implement by anyone who knows Forth (presuming that the > loader.conf variables are known to the beastie.4th program), and that > this would not interfere at all with those who don't mind or enjoy the > beastie, but it would also help people like me in an unobtrusive manner. > > Best, Stephen > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 01:26:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8FC816A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 01:26:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailout2.barnet.com.au (mailout2.barnet.com.au [218.185.88.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 853D043D49 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 01:26:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from edwin@mavetju.org) Received: by mailout2.barnet.com.au (Postfix, from userid 27) id BBB1D70744B; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:26:01 +1100 (EST) X-Viruscan-Id: <41AA7AA900008487013B50@BarNet> Received: from mail2-auth.barnet.com.au (mailout2.barnet.com.au [218.185.88.16]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) Authority" (verified OK)) by mail2.barnet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43C8270743F; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:26:01 +1100 (EST) Received: from k7.mavetju (edwin-3.int.barnet.com.au [10.10.12.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) Certificate Authority" (verified OK)) by mail2-auth.barnet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51443707443; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:26:00 +1100 (EST) Received: by k7.mavetju (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2D9C960DC; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:25:59 +1100 (EST) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:25:59 +1100 From: Edwin Groothuis To: Stephen Montgomery-Smith , stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041129012559.GB1541@k7.mavetju> References: <41AA785C.5020304@math.missouri.edu> <20041129012340.GA24768@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041129012340.GA24768@xor.obsecurity.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: Re: Beastie X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 01:26:02 -0000 On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 05:23:40PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 07:16:12PM -0600, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > > It is with a little intrepidation that I ask this question, because I > > sense that what I am about to ask might push some buttons, or perhaps > > bring back some unpleasant memories of those who have asked what I am > > going to ask in a less tactful manner. > > > > I find that the beastie that appears at boot time with FreeBSD 5.3 > > mildly bothers me. It is possible for me to edit boot/beastie.4th, but > > this gets put back each time I do make installworld. > > > > Would it be possible to add a variable "show_beastie" to be put in > > /boot/loader.conf, which would default to "YES", but users could add in > > show_beastie="NO" if they didn't want it, but only want the menu. > > That option is already there, you didn't look hard enough. It's not really the easiest option to find kris... beastie_disable="YES" -- Edwin Groothuis | Personal website: http://www.mavetju.org edwin@mavetju.org | Weblog: http://weblog.barnet.com.au/edwin/ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 01:27:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D30BC16A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 01:27:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91.asp.att.net [204.127.203.211]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D0C843D3F for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 01:27:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from [10.0.0.4] (12-216-243-9.client.mchsi.com[12.216.243.9]) by sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91) with ESMTP id <20041129012707m9100cdljce>; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 01:27:07 +0000 Message-ID: <41AA7AEA.1070007@math.missouri.edu> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 19:27:06 -0600 From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041116 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org References: <41AA785C.5020304@math.missouri.edu> <41AA7968.2030601@alumni.rice.edu> In-Reply-To: <41AA7968.2030601@alumni.rice.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Beastie X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 01:27:08 -0000 Jon Noack wrote: > > Throw 'beastie_disable="YES"' into /boot/loader.conf. > > Jon > > Thanks guys - I really appreciate you having done this. Stephen From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 01:27:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6444316A503 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 01:27:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns.exe.com.tr (ns2.exe.com.tr [213.204.66.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9866243D2F for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 01:27:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from akara@egemenbilgisayar.com.tr) X-Virus-Scanned: Kaspersky A.V. for Mail Servers v.5.0.4.0 Received: from [213.204.66.201] (account akara@egemenbilgisayar.com.tr HELO geek) by ns.exe.com.tr (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP id 1710036 for stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 03:26:51 +0200 From: "Aykut KARA" To: Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 03:26:59 +0200 Organization: EGEMEN Bilgisayar Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcTVsoRiXUBiyXEJSeitlWU6IU8KdA== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: SMP support problem - panic: APIC: Previous IPI is stuck X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 01:27:19 -0000 Hi, We are using FreeBSD 5.3R on our quad(4) cpu server. Our problem is, which I mentioned in subject line, "panic: APIC: Previous IPI is stuck". When server gives such an error, it stops responding ... I have searched all mailing lists but I can not find a solution except disabling SMP support in kernel which can not handle the traffic. What can be done in this situation? I will be pleased for your advises... Here is the dmesg output from server and my own kernel conf: ---- starting dmesg ---- Copyright (c) 1992-2004 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE #3: Sun Nov 28 16:59:44 EET 2004 AyKuT@ns.xxx:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/MYKERNEL Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel Pentium III Xeon (697.68-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x6a1 Stepping = 1 Features=0x383fbff real memory = 3858694144 (3679 MB) avail memory = 3777101824 (3602 MB) ACPI APIC Table: MADT: Forcing active-low polarity and level trigger for SCI ioapic0 irqs 0-15 on motherboard ioapic1 irqs 16-31 on motherboard npx0: [FAST] npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-safe" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <32-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x508-0x50b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 fxp0: port 0x1400-0x143f mem 0xe6000000-0xe60fffff,0xe6100000-0xe6100fff irq 31 at device 4.0 on pci0 miibus0: on fxp0 inphy0: on miibus0 inphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto fxp0: Ethernet address: 00:d0:b7:c2:9a:42 pci0: at device 12.0 (no driver attached) isab0: port 0x580-0x58f at device 15.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x1440-0x144f,0x1450-0x1453,0x1458-0x145f,0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 15.1 on pci0 ata0: channel #0 on atapci0 ata2: channel #1 on atapci0 ohci0: mem 0xe6102000-0xe6102fff irq 10 at device 15.2 on pci0 ohci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support usb0: on ohci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: (0x1166) OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered pcib1: on acpi0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at device 5.0 (no driver attached) iir0: mem 0xec000000-0xec003fff irq 20 at device 8.0 on pci1 iir0: [GIANT-LOCKED] pcib2: on acpi0 pci7: on pcib2 pci7: at device 7.0 (no driver attached) sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled fdc0: port 0x3f7,0x3f0-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: [FAST] fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: port 0x64,0x60 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: model IntelliMouse Explorer, device ID 4 sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled orm0: at iomem 0xc9800-0xcefff,0xc8000-0xc97ff,0xc0000-0xc7fff on isa0 pmtimer0 on isa0 ata1 at port 0x376,0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa0 ppc0: parallel port not found. sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounter "TSC" frequency 697678852 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec acd0: CDROM at ata0-master PIO4 Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle ses0 at iir0 bus 0 target 6 lun 0 ses0: Fixed Processor SCSI-2 device ses0: SAF-TE Compliant Device da0 at iir0 bus 1 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 104908MB (214853310 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 13374C) Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0s1a --- end of dmesg --- *** starting kernel configuration *** # # GENERIC -- Generic kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/i386 # # For more information on this file, please read the handbook section on # Kernel Configuration Files: # # http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-confi g.html # # The handbook is also available locally in /usr/share/doc/handbook # if you've installed the doc distribution, otherwise always see the # FreeBSD World Wide Web server (http://www.FreeBSD.org/) for the # latest information. # # An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the # device lines is also present in the ../../conf/NOTES and NOTES files. # If you are in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first # in NOTES. # # $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC,v 1.413.2.6.2.2 2004/10/24 18:02:52 scottl Exp $ machine i386 cpu I486_CPU cpu I586_CPU cpu I686_CPU ident GENERIC # To statically compile in device wiring instead of /boot/device.hints #hints "GENERIC.hints" # Default places to look for devices. options SCHED_4BSD # 4BSD scheduler options INET # InterNETworking options INET6 # IPv6 communications protocols options FFS # Berkeley Fast Filesystem options SOFTUPDATES # Enable FFS soft updates support options UFS_ACL # Support for access control lists options UFS_DIRHASH # Improve performance on big directories options MD_ROOT # MD is a potential root device options NFSCLIENT # Network Filesystem Client options NFSSERVER # Network Filesystem Server options NFS_ROOT # NFS usable as /, requires NFSCLIENT options MSDOSFS # MSDOS Filesystem options CD9660 # ISO 9660 Filesystem options PROCFS # Process filesystem (requires PSEUDOFS) options PSEUDOFS # Pseudo-filesystem framework options GEOM_GPT # GUID Partition Tables. options COMPAT_43 # Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options COMPAT_FREEBSD4 # Compatible with FreeBSD4 options SCSI_DELAY=15000 # Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI options KTRACE # ktrace(1) support options SYSVSHM # SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG # SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM # SYSV-style semaphores options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING # POSIX P1003_1B real-time extensions options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev options AHC_REG_PRETTY_PRINT # Print register bitfields in debug # output. Adds ~128k to driver. options AHD_REG_PRETTY_PRINT # Print register bitfields in debug # output. Adds ~215k to driver. options ADAPTIVE_GIANT # Giant mutex is adaptive. # options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel device apic # I/O APIC # Bus support. Do not remove isa, even if you have no isa slots device isa device eisa device pci # Floppy drives device fdc # ATA and ATAPI devices device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives device ataraid # ATA RAID drives device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives device atapist # ATAPI tape drives options ATA_STATIC_ID # Static device numbering # SCSI Controllers device ahb # EISA AHA1742 family device ahc # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices device ahd # AHA39320/29320 and onboard AIC79xx devices device amd # AMD 53C974 (Tekram DC-390(T)) device isp # Qlogic family device mpt # LSI-Logic MPT-Fusion #device ncr # NCR/Symbios Logic device sym # NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets + those of `ncr') device trm # Tekram DC395U/UW/F DC315U adapters device adv # Advansys SCSI adapters device adw # Advansys wide SCSI adapters device aha # Adaptec 154x SCSI adapters device aic # Adaptec 15[012]x SCSI adapters, AIC-6[23]60. device bt # Buslogic/Mylex MultiMaster SCSI adapters device ncv # NCR 53C500 device nsp # Workbit Ninja SCSI-3 device stg # TMC 18C30/18C50 # SCSI peripherals device scbus # SCSI bus (required for SCSI) device ch # SCSI media changers device da # Direct Access (disks) device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc) device cd # CD device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access) device ses # SCSI Environmental Services (and SAF-TE) # RAID controllers interfaced to the SCSI subsystem device amr # AMI MegaRAID device asr # DPT SmartRAID V, VI and Adaptec SCSI RAID device ciss # Compaq Smart RAID 5* device dpt # DPT Smartcache III, IV - See NOTES for options device hptmv # Highpoint RocketRAID 182x device iir # Intel Integrated RAID device ips # IBM (Adaptec) ServeRAID device mly # Mylex AcceleRAID/eXtremeRAID device twa # 3ware 9000 series PATA/SATA RAID # RAID controllers device aac # Adaptec FSA RAID device aacp # SCSI passthrough for aac (requires CAM) device ida # Compaq Smart RAID device mlx # Mylex DAC960 family device pst # Promise Supertrak SX6000 device twe # 3ware ATA RAID # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse device atkbdc # AT keyboard controller device atkbd # AT keyboard device psm # PS/2 mouse device vga # VGA video card driver device splash # Splash screen and screen saver support # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc # Enable this for the pcvt (VT220 compatible) console driver #device vt #options XSERVER # support for X server on a vt console #options FAT_CURSOR # start with block cursor device agp # support several AGP chipsets # Floating point support - do not disable. device npx # Power management support (see NOTES for more options) #device apm # Add suspend/resume support for the i8254. device pmtimer # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support # PCMCIA and cardbus bridge support device cbb # cardbus (yenta) bridge device pccard # PC Card (16-bit) bus device cardbus # CardBus (32-bit) bus # Serial (COM) ports device sio # 8250, 16[45]50 based serial ports # Parallel port device ppc device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required) device lpt # Printer device plip # TCP/IP over parallel device ppi # Parallel port interface device #device vpo # Requires scbus and da # If you've got a "dumb" serial or parallel PCI card that is # supported by the puc(4) glue driver, uncomment the following # line to enable it (connects to the sio and/or ppc drivers): #device puc # PCI Ethernet NICs. device de # DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'') device em # Intel PRO/1000 adapter Gigabit Ethernet Card device ixgb # Intel PRO/10GbE Ethernet Card device txp # 3Com 3cR990 (``Typhoon'') device vx # 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'') # PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code. # NOTE: Be sure to keep the 'device miibus' line in order to use these NICs! device miibus # MII bus support device bfe # Broadcom BCM440x 10/100 Ethernet device bge # Broadcom BCM570xx Gigabit Ethernet device dc # DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes device fxp # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558) device lge # Level 1 LXT1001 gigabit ethernet device nge # NatSemi DP83820 gigabit ethernet device pcn # AMD Am79C97x PCI 10/100 (precedence over 'lnc') device re # RealTek 8139C+/8169/8169S/8110S device rl # RealTek 8129/8139 device sf # Adaptec AIC-6915 (``Starfire'') device sis # Silicon Integrated Systems SiS 900/SiS 7016 device sk # SysKonnect SK-984x & SK-982x gigabit Ethernet device ste # Sundance ST201 (D-Link DFE-550TX) device ti # Alteon Networks Tigon I/II gigabit Ethernet device tl # Texas Instruments ThunderLAN device tx # SMC EtherPower II (83c170 ``EPIC'') device vge # VIA VT612x gigabit ethernet device vr # VIA Rhine, Rhine II device wb # Winbond W89C840F device xl # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'') # ISA Ethernet NICs. pccard NICs included. device cs # Crystal Semiconductor CS89x0 NIC # 'device ed' requires 'device miibus' device ed # NE[12]000, SMC Ultra, 3c503, DS8390 cards device ex # Intel EtherExpress Pro/10 and Pro/10+ device ep # Etherlink III based cards device fe # Fujitsu MB8696x based cards device ie # EtherExpress 8/16, 3C507, StarLAN 10 etc. device lnc # NE2100, NE32-VL Lance Ethernet cards device sn # SMC's 9000 series of Ethernet chips device xe # Xircom pccard Ethernet # ISA devices that use the old ISA shims #device le # Wireless NIC cards device wlan # 802.11 support device an # Aironet 4500/4800 802.11 wireless NICs. device awi # BayStack 660 and others device wi # WaveLAN/Intersil/Symbol 802.11 wireless NICs. #device wl # Older non 802.11 Wavelan wireless NIC. # Pseudo devices. device loop # Network loopback device mem # Memory and kernel memory devices device io # I/O device device random # Entropy device device ether # Ethernet support device sl # Kernel SLIP device ppp # Kernel PPP device tun # Packet tunnel. device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) device md # Memory "disks" device gif # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling device faith # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation) # The `bpf' device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this! device bpf # Berkeley packet filter # USB support device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface device usb # USB Bus (required) #device udbp # USB Double Bulk Pipe devices device ugen # Generic device uhid # "Human Interface Devices" device ukbd # Keyboard device ulpt # Printer device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da device ums # Mouse device urio # Diamond Rio 500 MP3 player device uscanner # Scanners # USB Ethernet, requires mii device aue # ADMtek USB Ethernet device axe # ASIX Electronics USB Ethernet device cue # CATC USB Ethernet device kue # Kawasaki LSI USB Ethernet device rue # RealTek RTL8150 USB Ethernet # FireWire support device firewire # FireWire bus code device sbp # SCSI over FireWire (Requires scbus and da) device fwe # Ethernet over FireWire (non-standard!) # IP Firewall Eklemesi.. # options IPFIREWALL # options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE # options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=200 # options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT # QUOTA Eklemesi options QUOTA # Quotas support *** End of kernel conf *** Aykut KARA Business Development Specialist EGEMEN Bilgisayar From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 02:41:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A949016A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 02:41:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns.exe.com.tr (ns2.exe.com.tr [213.204.66.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D66F543D5F for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 02:41:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from SubZero@subzero5.yi.org) Received: from subzero5.yi.org (account postmaster@izsan.com [81.213.118.153] verified) by ns.exe.com.tr (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP id 1720041; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 04:41:28 +0200 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (HELO subzero5) by subzero5.yi.org (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with SMTP id 450067; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 04:41:40 +0200 Message-ID: <014601c4d5bc$f4a7c4a0$3400000a@subzero5> From: "Sub Zero" To: References: <0fab01c4d523$727fb440$3400000a@subzero5> <20041128162705.GC4291@e-Gitt.NET> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 04:41:40 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 cc: Oliver Brandmueller Subject: Re: Monitoring errors printed on servers screen. X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 02:41:49 -0000 >> I wonder how I can monitor the various prompts and errors >> that are printed on the FreeBSD 5.3 servers screen. > You also might want to check /etc/syslog.conf and syslog.conf(5) > manpage. # uncomment this to log all writes to /dev/console to /var/log/console.log console.info /var/log/console.log this has filled what i needed. > - Oliver Thanks Oliver for the lift :) From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 02:52:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A21BE16A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 02:52:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3199943D62 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 02:52:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from robbak@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so652028wri for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 18:52:30 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=U7U7lZeg5ItRuIeecwkY9sgP1kK/fMeu0muAl2untkhMnvIlFJEENKM15Rx+JSwGAxVQkKgLVok0C/GVSNFPYM0mVQX0Gc2h1I0DIBqsIX5jkYPXZYOjSJOD9BytgikcOk78lLW26hbLOx298ZaYRFv5R/hFAy6ufj6QDh23N60= Received: by 10.54.3.16 with SMTP id 16mr189352wrc; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 18:52:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.14.79 with HTTP; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 18:52:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:52:30 +1000 From: Robert Backhaus To: Stephen Montgomery-Smith In-Reply-To: <41AA745E.3070400@math.missouri.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <02a201c4d2b7$451a82f0$cbc1a10a@Curs3> <20041128.174946.105188774.imp@bsdimp.com> <41AA745E.3070400@math.missouri.edu> cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.2 -> 5.3 without single mode? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Robert Backhaus List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 02:52:31 -0000 In general, yes, there will be. Quite an extensive one. Usually thoroughly bikeshedded on the lists beforehand. As a rule, always do installkernel before installworld. The new kernel will always run the old world (within reason), although often not vice versa. Then, in case of a failure, it should always come back up. On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 18:59:10 -0600, Stephen Montgomery-Smith > > So if there is a new common system call introduced, will it arrive with > a nice entry in UPDATING plus a HEADS UP? > > Stephen From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 02:56:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B33116A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 02:56:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.village.org [168.103.84.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7028043D5A for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 02:56:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by harmony.village.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iAT2tcop023264; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 19:55:38 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 19:56:35 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <20041128.195635.44431739.imp@bsdimp.com> To: stephen@math.missouri.edu From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <41AA745E.3070400@math.missouri.edu> References: <20041128.174946.105188774.imp@bsdimp.com> <41AA745E.3070400@math.missouri.edu> X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.2 -> 5.3 without single mode? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 02:56:35 -0000 In message: <41AA745E.3070400@math.missouri.edu> Stephen Montgomery-Smith writes: : M. Warner Losh wrote: : > In message: : > dima <_pppp@mail.ru> writes: : > : > Is it possible to cvsup from 5.2 to 5.3 without booting in single mode? : > : > I have a remote machine and want update it, but it is no console access, : > : > only SSH. : > : You don't actually need to reboot in single-user mode. Just make sure your users wouldn't use the server hard during the : > : # mergemaster -p : > : # make installworld : > : # mergemaster : > : cycle. You can basically disable all the services but sshd for that task & enable them again after the second reboot. : > : > While you don't NEED to go into single user (I do the above all the : > time), you are setting yourself up to get screwed the first time that : > a new, common system call is introudced... : > : : So if there is a new common system call introduced, will it arrive with : a nice entry in UPDATING plus a HEADS UP? Maybe, maybe not. All I'm saying is that often you can get away with short cuts, but unless you really know what's going on there are a number of different things that can mess you up trying to do the shortcut. Some of which can be a 'restore from backup' mistake. Warner From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 03:58:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2C2316A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 03:58:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from imo-m26.mx.aol.com (imo-m26.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BAB443D31 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 03:58:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from PhysicalChemist@aol.com) Received: from PhysicalChemist@aol.com by imo-m26.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id n.8d.1aeb81e1 (26116) for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 22:57:57 -0500 (EST) From: PhysicalChemist@aol.com Message-ID: <8d.1aeb81e1.2edbf844@aol.com> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 22:57:56 EST To: stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 10705 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Re: Beastie X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 03:58:02 -0000 Stephen, I quite agree that you have a good idea. I do not mind the beastie myself, either, but I am working at an Episcopal Church (I am not yet clergy, but close to it) and some of my people would flip if they saw it, just as my wife did when she saw it (she is a Lutheran Pastor). It would be really nice to have an easy way out of the beastie. Say a blessing or something.... Bill Isakson PhysicalChemist@aol.com (well, yes, I am that, too.) In a message dated 11/28/04 5:17:04 PM Pacific Standard Time, stephen@math.missouri.edu writes: > It is with a little intrepidation that I ask this question, because I > sense that what I am about to ask might push some buttons, or perhaps > bring back some unpleasant memories of those who have asked what I am > going to ask in a less tactful manner. > > I find that the beastie that appears at boot time with FreeBSD 5.3 > mildly bothers me. It is possible for me to edit boot/beastie.4th, but > this gets put back each time I do make installworld. > > Would it be possible to add a variable "show_beastie" to be put in > /boot/loader.conf, which would default to "YES", but users could add in > show_beastie="NO" if they didn't want it, but only want the menu. > > I am sure that this is a sensitive subject with you guys, because I know > that you have no intention of associating FreeBSD with satanism or > anything like that. It is not my intention to apply any kind of label > of evil to you guys, indeed I find FreeBSD to be a very fine operating > system, and I use it all the time. But the symbol which is commonly > associated with the devil does cause me some discomfort, and for > example, if I were to install some kind of server for my church, I think > that it would bother them as well. > > I know that the the symbol of the beastie is strongly associated with > FreeBSD, and that it would be grossly unfair for me to ask for it to be > removed just because of my personal discomfort. > > That is why I am proposing the solution above. I think that it would be > easy to implement by anyone who knows Forth (presuming that the > loader.conf variables are known to the beastie.4th program), and that > this would not interfere at all with those who don't mind or enjoy the > beastie, but it would also help people like me in an unobtrusive manner. > > Best, Stephen > _______________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 05:47:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7B7E16A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 05:47:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5E2443D5C for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 05:47:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dantavious@comcast.net) Received: from focus.dantavious.com (pcp04630633pcs.gambrl01.md.comcast.net[68.49.58.89]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with ESMTP id <2004112905471101500gv6jle>; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 05:47:11 +0000 From: Derrick Edwards To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 01:00:43 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200411290100.43354.dantavious@comcast.net> Subject: Sounblaster Live Card X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 05:47:14 -0000 I went out and bought a Sound Blaster Live sound card. I have searched and tried various things such as: 1. Loading all the sound drivers with kldload snd_driver Once they are loaded %cat /dev/sndstat FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) Installed devices: 2. I know that FreeBSD sees the PCI card. none2@pci2:1:0: class=0x040100 card=0x10061102 chip=0x00071102 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Creative Labs' device = 'CA0106-DAT Audigy LS' class = multimedia subclass = audio Am I missing something? Thanks in advance? Dantavious From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 05:47:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 354B316A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 05:47:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D9B843D5C for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 05:47:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dantavious@comcast.net) Received: from focus.dantavious.com (pcp04630633pcs.gambrl01.md.comcast.net[68.49.58.89]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with ESMTP id <2004112905475701400resaoe>; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 05:47:57 +0000 From: Derrick Edwards To: Ceri Davies Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 01:01:32 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.1 References: <200411280521.35885.dantavious@comcast.net> <20041128191105.GB37244@submonkey.net> <20041128192559.GC37244@submonkey.net> In-Reply-To: <20041128192559.GC37244@submonkey.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200411290101.33092.dantavious@comcast.net> cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkg_add error on STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 05:47:58 -0000 Thanks all, Works perfectly now! Dantavious > On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 07:11:06PM +0000, Ceri Davies wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 05:21:35AM -0500, Derrick Edwards wrote: > > > Everytime I try to install a package via pkg_add I get the following > > > error. There is not a packages-5-current directory but there is a > > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5-stable > > > directory. How do I fix this? > > > > > > %pkg_add -r mysqlcc > > > Error: FTP Unable to get > > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5-current/Latest/ > > >mysqlcc.tbz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) > > > pkg_add: unable to fetch > > > 'ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5-current/Latest > > >/mysqlcc.tbz' by URL > > > > See if the attached patch does the right thing. > > Or just cvsup. Ken Smith just committed pretty much the same thing. > > Ceri From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 06:09:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9167A16A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 06:09:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp003.bizmail.yahoo.com (smtp003.bizmail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6070343D5A for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 06:09:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from noackjr@alumni.rice.edu) Received: from unknown (HELO optimator.noacks.org) (noackjr@supercrime.org@70.240.198.174 with login) by smtp003.bizmail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Nov 2004 06:09:15 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimator.noacks.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77D286152; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 00:09:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from optimator.noacks.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (optimator.noacks.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 71447-08; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 00:09:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from compgeek.noacks.org (compgeek [192.168.1.10]) by optimator.noacks.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFC0B614E; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 00:09:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by compgeek.noacks.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iAT69Blb000663; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 00:09:12 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from noackjr@alumni.rice.edu) Message-ID: <41AABD07.2080808@alumni.rice.edu> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 00:09:11 -0600 From: Jon Noack User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041128) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aykut KARA References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at noacks.org cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SMP support problem - panic: APIC: Previous IPI is stuck X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: noackjr@alumni.rice.edu List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 06:09:15 -0000 On 11/28/04 19:26, Aykut KARA wrote: > We are using FreeBSD 5.3R on our quad(4) cpu server. Our problem is, which I > mentioned in subject line, "panic: APIC: Previous IPI is stuck". When server > gives such an error, it stops responding ... > > I have searched all mailing lists but I can not find a solution except > disabling SMP support in kernel which can not handle the traffic. What can > be done in this situation? I will be pleased for your advises... You sure you searched the mailing lists? ;-) Stephan Uphoff produced a patch that might fix it and posted to current@ about it 2 weeks ago: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2004-November/043156.html Jon From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 06:35:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EAFB16A4F9 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 06:35:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from carver.gumbysoft.com (carver.gumbysoft.com [66.220.23.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C844843D5A for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 06:35:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dwhite@gumbysoft.com) Received: by carver.gumbysoft.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 67E3572DF9; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 22:35:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by carver.gumbysoft.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 660C672DF8; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 22:35:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 22:35:15 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White To: jcaldwell@ymcastlouis.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20041128223124.R40277@carver.gumbysoft.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IBM x225 Boot Failure with all recent 5.x releases X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 06:35:38 -0000 On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 jcaldwell@ymcastlouis.org wrote: > Has there been any change in the status of the x225 bug in 5.3? I've got a > 5.3-release CD, and it still shows the same problem. Right now, my plans > to deploy FreeBSD are stuck, until this bug gets resolved. > > To refresh memory (and I'm filling in a bug report as soon as I'm done > here) - on any IBM x225 server, 5.3 (or 5.2.1) refuses to boot - it starts > to load the bootloader, gets as far as 'Looking up /BOOT/LOADER - Found', > and then I get continous loops of 'BTX Halted' plus register dumps. Never > gets any further. Have you posted the register dump? It'd be nice to have that so it can be decoded; it includes the opcodes before and after the panic, and that may help understand what evilness your BIOS is trying to propagate. In the interim, try disabling some BIOS features, particularly Legacy USB if its offered, and the Integrated Mirroring support if you have it enabled. For the record a x225 is a dual-proc Xeon machine. -- Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@gumbysoft.com | www.FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 06:40:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FA6216A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 06:40:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from carver.gumbysoft.com (carver.gumbysoft.com [66.220.23.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62F4343D4C for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 06:40:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dwhite@gumbysoft.com) Received: by carver.gumbysoft.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 56D3372DF8; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 22:40:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by carver.gumbysoft.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51BD772DD4; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 22:40:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 22:40:59 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White To: "Roger L. Beeman" In-Reply-To: <200411162242.iAGMg32e014547@koishi.subako.org> Message-ID: <20041128223837.H40277@carver.gumbysoft.com> References: <200411162242.iAGMg32e014547@koishi.subako.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 5.3 Loader Too Fragile X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 06:40:59 -0000 On Tue, 16 Nov 2004, Roger L. Beeman wrote: > Can someone help me build a hardwired version of the loader that will > let me boot my system? > > System is a 440LX dual CPU DEC Personal Workstation Station 333i+. > There are no IDE devices. CD and HD are SCSI on 2940U2W controller. > I saw in the code that this is bad news if guessing is required. Yes, at first glance it appears your BIOS is completely braindead. > Couldn't boot from floppy or CDROM, I couldn't even get them to take > any of numerous variations of switching console from vidconsole to > comconsole to capture error messages, so I built hard drive on another > system. I get: > > BTX loader 1.00 BTX version is 1.01 > Console: internal video/keyboard > BIOS drive A: is disk0 > BIOS drive C: is disk1 > BIOS 509kB/130048kB available memory Those memory numbers don't make sense. How much physical RAM is in the system? > > FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 1.1 > (root@harlow.cse.buffalo.edu, Thu Nov 4 22:29:29 UTC 2004) > Loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf > /boot/kernel/kernel text=0x22c3e0 Console: internal video/keyboard Jumping back around to loader again looks extra bad. > BIOS drive A: is disk0 > BIOS drive C: is disk1 > BIOS 509kB/130048kB available memory > > FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 1.1 > (root@harlow.cse.buffalo.edu, Thu Nov 4 22:29:29 UTC 2004) > Can't work out which disk we are booting from. > Guessed BIOS device 0xffffffff not found by probes defaulting to disk0: > > panic: free: guard1 fail @ 0x517c4 from [line folded for mail] > /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/loader/../../common/module.c:957 > --> Press a key on the console to reboot <-- > > I had similar problems with 5.2.1 but was able to resolve them by upgrading > to March 25th 5-Current, so I am reasonably sure the hardware is in good > shape. Dunno. Either the BIOS in that machine is completely whacked out or you have more serious hardware problems. Based on the age of the machine and the fact that DEC is dead I'd probably give up on this. -- Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@gumbysoft.com | www.FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 06:42:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FCDE16A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 06:42:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from carver.gumbysoft.com (carver.gumbysoft.com [66.220.23.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DD4543D2D for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 06:42:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dwhite@gumbysoft.com) Received: by carver.gumbysoft.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 04DAB72DF8; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 22:42:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by carver.gumbysoft.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 028D472DD4; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 22:42:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 22:42:35 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White To: David Gilbert In-Reply-To: <16794.57185.563598.132137@canoe.dclg.ca> Message-ID: <20041128224152.F40277@carver.gumbysoft.com> References: <16794.57185.563598.132137@canoe.dclg.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: VIA 83C572 USB controller not recognised as EHCI? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 06:42:36 -0000 On Wed, 17 Nov 2004, David Gilbert wrote: > I have the following: > > uhci0: port 0xd400-0xd41f irq 12 at device 17.2 on p > ci0 > uhci0: Reserved 0x20 bytes for rid 0x20 type 4 at 0xd400 > uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > > 'device ehci' in the kernel doesn't seem to recognise it. Is this a > known issue ... or is it a magic byte issue? Or a "this isn't a EHCI controller" issue? :) Can you post the output of pciconf -lv? -- Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@gumbysoft.com | www.FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 07:09:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1886D16A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 07:09:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from carver.gumbysoft.com (carver.gumbysoft.com [66.220.23.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E033443D5C for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 07:09:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dwhite@gumbysoft.com) Received: by carver.gumbysoft.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CC98672DF8; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 23:09:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by carver.gumbysoft.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7EFF72DD4; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 23:09:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 23:09:09 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White To: Oliver Hartmann In-Reply-To: <1C8D2CA2FBAD5F42B366A87718010B0C854312@EXCHANGE03.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> Message-ID: <20041128225758.P40277@carver.gumbysoft.com> References: <1C8D2CA2FBAD5F42B366A87718010B0C854312@EXCHANGE03.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.3-[RELEASE-p1|STABLE] SMP crashes X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 07:09:10 -0000 Pruning -smp crosspost since I'm not on that list. To: address updated accordingly. On Sat, 20 Nov 2004, Oliver Hartmann wrote: > First, please do not reply on this address, your reply will never reach > me. Please contact me at ohartman@web.de. I can not post into this > newsgroup via web.de due to SPAM exclusion of several web.de hosts. > > As I reported very often in the past I have still massvie problems with > SMP enabled on a FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p1 __and__ FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE box. > The crash is always of the same typus as I can 'watch' how the machine > freezes and for some lucky moments I am able to switch to the console > before the box dies definitely and watch what error message comes up. The panic caught below appears to have dropped you into ddb. Could you run 'tr' and post the output along with the panic output next time you trigger this? > This machine is a ASUS CUR-DLS maiboard, utilizing the RCC ServerWorks > chipset, version 3 for Pentium 3 CPUs. At this moment I use two Intel > 1GHz CPUs of the same stepping, but prior to this error report I used > two CPUs with 866 Mhz and of different steppings, but it seems to make > no difference. > > I also tried a lot of kernel options, especially those which are > supposed to be critical (means: I switched them off) and I used a > GENERIC kernel for a while, but it makes no difference. The crash occurs > while using a graphical console, Xorg X11 (version 4.7.0 as compiled > from the ports), fvwm2 (develepmonet version, but crash occurs also with > windowmaker so the GUI seems not to be an issue). I also tried to fix > the problem by using built in fxp-NIC instead of the 64Bit Intel GBit > LAN adapter (em0), but it is always the same. What are you using for disk? Are you using the built-in ATA controller? > I will append a mptable -verbose -dmesg output for your information and > I will add the error message I receive. Most time when the crash occurs > I did a lot of graphical load (working on several TIFF files 200MB in > size or with Mozilla/FireFox), but this may simply trigger or fasten up > the problem. Are these operations compute- or i/o-intensive or are CPU or I/O bound? > Sometimes I can not get a 'systat -vmstat 1' output, calling vmstat in > systat results in 'Alternate system clock has died. Reverting to > ''pigs'' ...'. This happens very often in SMP, but not in UP. Thats not good. That may indicate interrupt routing problems, and ASUS is traditionally bad at writing ACPI code. You may try disabling ACPI if you haven't already. > I will add, that the UP system (SMP disabled by kern.smp.disable='1' in > loader.conf) was up for nearly 13 days under same conditions when a SMP > box crashes after several minutes, sevral hours. Good to know. > This is the last console error I received: > > Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode > cpuid = 1; apic id = 00 > fault virtual address = 0x1c > fault code = supervisor write, page not present > instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc062ac76 > stack pointer = 0x10:0x4e2d7ac > frame pointer = 0x10:0xe4e2d7c4 > code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b > = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 > processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 > current process = 44 (swi5: clock sio) > [thread 100042] > Stopped at vref +0x16: lock cmpxchgl %edx, 0x1c(%edx) Hm, null vnode reference. vref() just increments the usecount on a vnode, but its surrounded by mutex operations on that vnode which use that particular instruction. Considering that the releases in question are not known to have these types of problems I'd say we're looking at a hardware problem. > What is 'swi5: clock sio'? Is this problem hardware related? Why only in > SMP? Others seem not to have problems with 5.3 and SMP, maybe this is > very specific to me due to the RCC based mainboard I use (in the past I > had a lot of problems with a TYAN 2500 mobo also based on ServerWorks > chipset in conjunction with FreeBSD 4/5). I've run Linux on that series of Tyan board (2510 and the later 2518) with only one problem -- the onboard ATA controller is known to cause data corruption and should not be used under any circumstances. The 2518 ships with an onboard Promise that works. If you are using the onboard ATA controller I strongly suggest using some other disk interface. A temporary workaround would be to turn off DMA mode on your disks by adding this to /boot/loader.conf and rebooting: hw.ata.ata_dma="0" This will of course cause a huge performance impact, particularly if your work is I/O bound. I'd also check for the usual hardware suspects -- cooling problems (insufficient heatsinks, broken fans, poorly designed airflow, etc.), overclocking, bad or incorrect memory, bad processor, bad motherboard. -- Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@gumbysoft.com | www.FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 07:14:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 055CE16A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 07:14:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from linda-1.paradise.net.nz (bm-1a.paradise.net.nz [202.0.58.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FD1043D45 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 07:14:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from markir@paradise.net.nz) Received: from smtp-3.paradise.net.nz (smtp-3b.paradise.net.nz [202.0.32.212]) by linda-1.paradise.net.nz (Paradise.net.nz) with ESMTP id <0I7X00HQJISBZ3@linda-1.paradise.net.nz> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 20:14:35 +1300 (NZDT) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (218-101-12-172.paradise.net.nz [218.101.12.172]) by smtp-3.paradise.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF168AE417 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 20:14:34 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 20:17:59 +1300 From: Mark Kirkwood To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-id: <41AACD27.6030506@paradise.net.nz> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 Subject: Cannot install 5.3 on tyan tiger 133 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 07:14:37 -0000 Recently I decided to make the switch from 4.x to 5.x, now that 5 has moved to stable. So about a week ago I installed 5.3 on my workstation machine, a Tyan Trinity 400. All went well, so yesterday I decided to do my "server" - a Tyan Tiger 133. Since these shared the same chipset I thought all would go well too. Not the case, I cannot even boot from the 5.3 cd - the machine hangs or reboots immediately upon trying to boot the (I get a fleeting glance at the drive mappings, that is all). I have verified the checksums on the iso image I used (and the same cd installed the Trinity with no problems) This machine was running 4.10, and in case I have a suddenly bad cdrom, I have installed 5.1 (the only other 5.x series I have lying around), which completes fine. Any ideas? More detailed specs on the machine: - Tyan Tiger 133 (S1834 Rev G) - 2xPIII 700/100/256 , 2G RAM, Promise TX2000, 2xMaxtor Plus 8 ATA-133 40G regards Mark From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 07:20:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE43D16A4CF for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 07:20:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from carver.gumbysoft.com (carver.gumbysoft.com [66.220.23.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D833E43D46 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 07:20:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dwhite@gumbysoft.com) Received: by carver.gumbysoft.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CDD2272DF8; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 23:20:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by carver.gumbysoft.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C853B72DD4; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 23:20:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 23:20:16 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White To: piotr.smyrak@heron.pl In-Reply-To: <20041123130255.M32543@heron.pl> Message-ID: <20041128231702.W40277@carver.gumbysoft.com> References: <20041123130255.M32543@heron.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cannot install -STABLE world on 5.2.1 via NFS X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 07:20:17 -0000 On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 piotr.smyrak@heron.pl wrote: > Hi, > > I am trying to upgrade an old laptop with 5.2.1 to -STABLE 5.3. As always I mounted > /usr/src and /usr/obj via NFS to the laptop, but when I try to make installworld in /usr/ > src, I got: > > ntbk@/usr/src # make installworld > mkdir -p /tmp/install.gS2oCXSs > for prog in [ awk cap_mkdb cat chflags chmod chown date echo egrep find grep ln > make mkdir mtree mv pwd_mkdb rm sed sh sysctl test true uname wc zic; do cp > `which $prog` /tmp/install.gS2oCXSs; done > +cd /usr/src; MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj MACHINE_ARCH=i386 > MACHINE=i386 CPUTYPE= GROFF_BIN_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/bin > GROFF_FONT_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/groff_font > GROFF_TMAC_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/tmac PATH=/usr/obj/usr/ > src/i386/legacy/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/ > usr/games:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/ > i386/usr/games:/tmp/install.gS2oCXSs make -f Makefile.inc1 reinstall > *** Error code 127 Error 127 = command not found Its not finding the bootstrapped make because the build and install environments don't match. You can try make ALWAYS_CHECK_MAKE=yes installworld to attempt to force a rebuild, but exporting /usr/obj read-only will probably cause that to fail immediately. ache will probably chime in here shortly to say that this is not a supported configuration (where the build and install target machines are not the same release level). -- Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@gumbysoft.com | www.FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 07:30:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E27616A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 07:30:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from carver.gumbysoft.com (carver.gumbysoft.com [66.220.23.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8620B43D48 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 07:30:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dwhite@gumbysoft.com) Received: by carver.gumbysoft.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 76D8A72DF8; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 23:30:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by carver.gumbysoft.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72BD872DD4; Sun, 28 Nov 2004 23:30:12 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 23:30:12 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White To: Paul Mather In-Reply-To: <1101228017.38787.12.camel@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> Message-ID: <20041128232435.X40277@carver.gumbysoft.com> References: <1101228017.38787.12.camel@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mount pending error? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 07:30:12 -0000 On Tue, 23 Nov 2004, Paul Mather wrote: > Last night, this appeared in my logs (and on my console): > > Nov 23 03:05:36 zappa kernel: /data: mount pending error: blocks -1696 files 0 > > > What is a "mount pending error?" I have heard this in conjunction with > unclean shutdowns and fsck, but my system was not shut down recently, > nor has /data (on a geom_stripe) been unmounted (cleanly or otherwise). > > The only thing I have done that could be related is to make a snapshot > (later removed), but it was not of the filesystem being complained > about. (Also, I create and mount snapshots of all my filesystems as > part of my nightly TSM backup.) > > I guess I should shutdown and fsck just to make certain everything is > okay. I am puzzled why this happened, though. (I've been running the > backups for a while, and have not had any complaints.) Looking at the code in ffs_mountfs(), this is data pulled straight from the superblock, so I think its some recordkeeping that softupdates is doing. Immediately after reading those fields they are zeroed so I think its information on where softupdates was at when the filesystem (or snapshot) was mounted. Obviously if there are outstanding softupdate ops when the snapshot is taken it may not be including those in the snap. AFAIK its harmless. -- Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@gumbysoft.com | www.FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 08:49:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29C0C16A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 08:49:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.hispeed.ch (mxout.hispeed.ch [62.2.95.247]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1170343D41 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 08:49:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hampi@rootshell.be) Received: from gicco.homeip.net (217-162-157-43.dclient.hispeed.ch [217.162.157.43])iAT8neA4031559 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 09:49:40 +0100 Received: from gicco.here (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gicco.homeip.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iAT8nY5D000915 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 09:49:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from hampi@rootshell.be) Received: (from idefix@localhost) by gicco.here (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id iAT8nYxv000914 for stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 09:49:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from hampi@rootshell.be) X-Authentication-Warning: gicco.here: idefix set sender to hampi@rootshell.be using -f Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 09:49:34 +0100 From: Hanspeter Roth To: stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041129084934.GA800@gicco.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: stable@freebsd.org References: <41AA785C.5020304@math.missouri.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41AA785C.5020304@math.missouri.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: Beastie X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: stable@freebsd.org List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 08:49:43 -0000 On Nov 28 at 19:16, Stephen Montgomery-Smith spoke: > Would it be possible to add a variable "show_beastie" to be put in > /boot/loader.conf, which would default to "YES", but users could add in > show_beastie="NO" if they didn't want it, but only want the menu. If you would like the menu appear but not the Beastie picture you might consider this patch: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=70231 But please be aware that this patch is not compatible with the majority of FreeBSD developers. You will rebuild the whole base system, won't you? If not, cd /boot && patch -p4. -Hanspeter From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 09:29:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CD6416A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 09:29:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EE8CD43D5D for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 09:29:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 19278 invoked by uid 65534); 29 Nov 2004 09:29:08 -0000 Received: from pD95D8432.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO lofi.dyndns.org) (217.93.132.50) by mail.gmx.net (mp028) with SMTP; 29 Nov 2004 10:29:08 +0100 X-Authenticated: #443188 Received: from [192.168.8.4] (kiste.my.domain [192.168.8.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by lofi.dyndns.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iAT9Sw54017231 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:29:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) Message-ID: <41AAEBD9.9010705@gmx.net> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:28:57 +0100 From: Michael Nottebrock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, de-de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org, scottl@freebsd.org References: <41AA785C.5020304@math.missouri.edu> <20041129084934.GA800@gicco.homeip.net> In-Reply-To: <20041129084934.GA800@gicco.homeip.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Subject: Re: Beastie X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 09:29:11 -0000 Hanspeter Roth wrote: > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=70231 I would much prefer seeing this patch getting committed after instead of completely disabling the bootmenu as recently committed. -- ,_, | Michael Nottebrock | lofi@freebsd.org (/^ ^\) | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve | http://www.freebsd.org \u/ | K Desktop Environment on FreeBSD | http://freebsd.kde.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 09:29:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3697816A4DE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 09:29:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 479D843D62 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 09:29:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 14974 invoked by uid 65534); 29 Nov 2004 09:29:17 -0000 Received: from pD95D8432.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO lofi.dyndns.org) (217.93.132.50) by mail.gmx.net (mp011) with SMTP; 29 Nov 2004 10:29:17 +0100 X-Authenticated: #443188 Received: from [192.168.8.4] (kiste.my.domain [192.168.8.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by lofi.dyndns.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iAT9T954017239 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:29:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) Message-ID: <41AAEBE4.2040407@gmx.net> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:29:08 +0100 From: Michael Nottebrock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, de-de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org, scottl@freebsd.org References: <41AA785C.5020304@math.missouri.edu> <20041129084934.GA800@gicco.homeip.net> In-Reply-To: <20041129084934.GA800@gicco.homeip.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Subject: Re: Beastie X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 09:29:19 -0000 Hanspeter Roth wrote: > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=70231 I would much prefer seeing this patch getting committed instead of completely disabling the bootmenu as recently committed. -- ,_, | Michael Nottebrock | lofi@freebsd.org (/^ ^\) | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve | http://www.freebsd.org \u/ | K Desktop Environment on FreeBSD | http://freebsd.kde.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 09:38:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5457716A4CE; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 09:38:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay.bestcom.ru (relay.bestcom.ru [217.72.144.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B86243D58; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 09:38:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from glebius@freebsd.org) Received: from cell.sick.ru (root@cell.sick.ru [217.72.144.68]) by relay.bestcom.ru (8.13.1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id iAT9cC9x034680 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:38:13 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from glebius@freebsd.org) Received: from cell.sick.ru (glebius@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cell.sick.ru (8.12.11/8.12.8) with ESMTP id iAT9cBU1001811 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:38:12 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from glebius@freebsd.org) Received: (from glebius@localhost) by cell.sick.ru (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id iAT9cBfR001810; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:38:11 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from glebius@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: cell.sick.ru: glebius set sender to glebius@freebsd.org using -f Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:38:11 +0300 From: Gleb Smirnoff To: Hideki Yamamoto , alfred@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041129093811.GB1659@cell.sick.ru> References: <20041121.003425.41664309.yamamoto436@oki.com> <20041122081250.GA49670@cell.sick.ru> <20041128.213540.74733833.yamamoto436@oki.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041128.213540.74733833.yamamoto436@oki.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20041013, clamav-milter version 0.75l on 127.0.0.1 X-Virus-Status: Clean cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pppoe server option X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 09:38:15 -0000 On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 09:35:40PM +0900, Hideki Yamamoto wrote: H> > -l switch configures label in ppp.conf H> > -p swicth configures provider name which is announced in Ethernet. H> H> Thank you for your reply. H> I think comment statement in /etc/defaults/rc.conf should be changed H> because the current comment means '-l'. Otherwise we should change H> /etc/rc.network. Don't you think so? H> H> -------------- /etc/defaults/rc.conf ---------- H> pppoed_provider="service-pppoe" # Provider and ppp(8) config file entry. H> ----------------------------------------------- [ccing Alfred, since cvs annotate points at him] If label has not been specified, it defaults to provider. So this comment is not meaningless. If you want to specify another label, you should use pppoed_flags variable. I think it will be better to change comment to "PPPoE Provider name". Alfred, what do you think? -- Totus tuus, Glebius. GLEBIUS-RIPN GLEB-RIPE From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 09:58:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA4AB16A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 09:58:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pinus.cc.fer.hr (pinus.cc.fer.hr [161.53.73.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 976B843D3F for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 09:58:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ivoras@fer.hr) Received: from [161.53.72.113] (lara.cc.fer.hr [161.53.72.113]) by pinus.cc.fer.hr (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id iATA915B015057; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 11:09:03 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <41AAF2BE.7030800@fer.hr> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:58:22 +0100 From: Ivan Voras User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041111) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Edwin Groothuis References: <41A60264.30109@fer.hr> <41AA6F6E.1080809@mac.com> <20041129004546.GA1541@k7.mavetju> In-Reply-To: <20041129004546.GA1541@k7.mavetju> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Huge slapd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 09:58:34 -0000 Edwin Groothuis wrote: > On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 07:38:06PM -0500, Chuck Swiger wrote: >>>439 ldap 20 0 149M 6128K kserel 0:07 0.00% 0.00% slapd >>> >>>I know that the actually used memory size is the 6MB figure above, but >>>why does it allocate almost 150MB? Is it normal? >> >>This sounds like a classic example of a memory leak. > > > Had the same before I moved to openldap 2.2 I should have said - this *is* openldap 2.2, from a week ago, on 5-stable. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 09:59:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DE9016A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 09:59:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.hispeed.ch (mxout.hispeed.ch [62.2.95.247]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 423C043D39 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 09:59:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hampi@rootshell.be) Received: from gicco.homeip.net (217-162-157-43.dclient.hispeed.ch [217.162.157.43])iAT9xsi2023398 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:59:55 +0100 Received: from gicco.here (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gicco.homeip.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iAT9xsIw001313 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:59:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from hampi@rootshell.be) Received: (from idefix@localhost) by gicco.here (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id iAT9xs6u001312 for stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:59:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from hampi@rootshell.be) X-Authentication-Warning: gicco.here: idefix set sender to hampi@rootshell.be using -f Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:59:54 +0100 From: Hanspeter Roth To: stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041129095954.GA1282@gicco.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: stable@freebsd.org References: <41AA785C.5020304@math.missouri.edu> <20041129084934.GA800@gicco.homeip.net> <41AAEBD9.9010705@gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41AAEBD9.9010705@gmx.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: Beastie X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: stable@freebsd.org List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 09:59:57 -0000 On Nov 29 at 10:28, Michael Nottebrock spoke: > Hanspeter Roth wrote: > > > >http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=70231 > > I would much prefer seeing this patch getting committed after instead of > completely disabling the bootmenu as recently committed. The problem here is, that the Beastie picture is disabled by default. This is obviously not compatible with the majority of people. I intend to submit a more conservative patch, maybe this evening. -Hanspeter From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 10:10:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7275216A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:10:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from grant.org (grant.org [206.190.173.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0532543D46 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:10:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mgrant@grant.org) Received: from grant.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grant.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iATAAYrh052267 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 05:10:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mgrant@grant.org) Received: (from mgrant@localhost) by grant.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id iATAAYtN052265 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 05:10:34 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mgrant) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 05:10:34 -0500 From: Michael Grant To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041129101033.GH98559@grant.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Subject: bios disk numbers and device names X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:10:42 -0000 Is there any way to statically assign a device name to a specific disk so that if the BIOS renumbers the disks (for example if I move around a controller) so that the devices always come up with the same name? Michael Grant From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 10:49:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8795716A4CF; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:49:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freebee.digiware.nl (dsl439.iae.nl [212.61.63.187]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78CD243D60; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:49:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wjw@withagen.nl) Received: from [212.61.27.71] (dual.digiware.nl [212.61.27.71]) by freebee.digiware.nl (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iATAnLv0000794; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 11:49:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wjw@withagen.nl) Message-ID: <41AAFEB2.6040903@withagen.nl> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 11:49:22 +0100 From: Willem Jan Withagen User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Scott Long References: <41AA75A5.3050706@withagen.nl> <41AA7921.9090703@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <41AA7921.9090703@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: same interrupts on uhc and em0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:49:24 -0000 Scott Long wrote: > Willem Jan Withagen wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Got this intel r1300 dual processor server with 2 Em inerfaces and a >> lot of usb ports, 2Gb and en Promise Fastrack TX2000 >> >> Problem is that when em0 gets an interrupt, it also shows up on the >> USB controller. top shows the exact same amounts of interrupt at both >> every time over. Which has a lickelyhood of less than zero. >> >> Is this more common, and if so: what might fix it. >> >> --WjW > > > This is a common problem, and unfortunately there hasn't been much > movement in fixing it. I'd highly suggest disabling USB in the BIOS if > you don't need it. Aha, the axe method.... :) Nope, it is a rack server with little use for USB. A rather nice one with video and USB at the front. But currently we're using the ps/2 kbd interface at the back, where there's also a video interface. Out of curiosity: Are the ISR's really shared, or is it more an "optical" problem? em0 is at irq 30 uhc is at irq 16 The server will be here for at most 1 more week, and is available for tests.... --WjW From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 11:03:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF26516A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 11:03:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2538743D5C for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 11:03:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from inchoate.gsoft.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iATB3RBT097651; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 21:33:28 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 21:33:25 +1030 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <20041129101033.GH98559@grant.org> In-Reply-To: <20041129101033.GH98559@grant.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1424412.NxKnka0FPe"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200411292133.25842.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 () IN_REP_TO,PGP_SIGNATURE_2,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.16 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) Subject: Re: bios disk numbers and device names X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 11:03:34 -0000 --nextPart1424412.NxKnka0FPe Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 20:40, Michael Grant wrote: > Is there any way to statically assign a device name to a specific disk > so that if the BIOS renumbers the disks (for example if I move around > a controller) so that the devices always come up with the same name? The BIOS naming means nothing to freebsd (in general). I don't think there's much you can do - device names are based on the order= of=20 probing so if you change which slot on the controller it's connected to it= =20 will change device name. What sort of device in particular? =2D-=20 Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C --nextPart1424412.NxKnka0FPe Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBqwH95ZPcIHs/zowRAjTPAKCc4Q33cQX0XKljHl1UyG2VN3XDlwCeKnDz yzBL7/4qU3XDiJi5IiFNHf0= =NwV+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1424412.NxKnka0FPe-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 12:21:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEB6716A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:21:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from grant.org (grant.org [206.190.173.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6477743D48 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:21:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mgrant@grant.org) Received: from grant.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grant.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iATCL5nR026006 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 29 Nov 2004 07:21:12 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mgrant@grant.org) Received: (from mgrant@localhost) by grant.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id iATCL03o026004; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 07:21:00 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mgrant) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 07:21:00 -0500 From: Michael Grant To: "Daniel O'Connor" Message-ID: <20041129122059.GI98559@grant.org> References: <20041129101033.GH98559@grant.org> <200411292133.25842.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200411292133.25842.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bios disk numbers and device names X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:21:21 -0000 On Mon, Nov 29, 2004 at 09:33:25PM +1030, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 20:40, Michael Grant wrote: > > Is there any way to statically assign a device name to a specific disk > > so that if the BIOS renumbers the disks (for example if I move around > > a controller) so that the devices always come up with the same name? > > The BIOS naming means nothing to freebsd (in general). > > I don't think there's much you can do - device names are based on the order of > probing so if you change which slot on the controller it's connected to it > will change device name. > > What sort of device in particular? Specifically, ata and scsi. This is a big problem for me. Once I lost a controller and it was a nightmare trying to get the machine to boot after moving the disks to the other controller. Another time I added a disk and again it was a nightmare. Has anyone thought about this problem? Is there some spare space in the label that could be used for a device name that, if set, could be used in place of (or an alias for) a name like da0? Michael Grant From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 12:30:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1196016A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:30:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4352E43D2D for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:30:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from inchoate.gsoft.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iATCUbQU098457; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 23:00:39 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: Michael Grant Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 23:00:34 +1030 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <20041129101033.GH98559@grant.org> <200411292133.25842.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <20041129122059.GI98559@grant.org> In-Reply-To: <20041129122059.GI98559@grant.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart157391199.L90xfymite"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200411292300.35019.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> X-Spam-Score: -2.2 () IN_REP_TO,MIME_LONG_LINE_QP,PGP_SIGNATURE_2,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.16 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bios disk numbers and device names X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:30:45 -0000 --nextPart157391199.L90xfymite Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 22:51, Michael Grant wrote: > > What sort of device in particular? > > Specifically, ata and scsi. This is a big problem for me. Once I > lost a controller and it was a nightmare trying to get the machine to > boot after moving the disks to the other controller. Another time I > added a disk and again it was a nightmare. You can wire disks down in SCSI, not sure about ATA. If a controller died then you will still be in trouble because the wiring=20 wouldn't be correct either :( Adding a disk is where wiring works OK. > Has anyone thought about this problem? Is there some spare space in > the label that could be used for a device name that, if set, could > be used in place of (or an alias for) a name like da0? I don't think this is feasible given the way things work at the moment :( That said if you run 5.x devfs makes this sort of thing MUCH less painful..= =20 You just boot single user, edit /etc/fstab, and go. =2D-=20 Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C --nextPart157391199.L90xfymite Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBqxZq5ZPcIHs/zowRAhqtAJ0dXj816HGcirGmrfa92UDZrnh9lQCeOM9a FvOoQKOMXgmqppl0cyQ61dc= =cW6s -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart157391199.L90xfymite-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 12:39:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAE1216A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:39:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from acampi.inet.it (acampi.inet.it [213.92.1.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7904843D5E for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:39:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andrea@acampi.inet.it) Received: by acampi.inet.it (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AD54A1A; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:39:58 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:39:58 +0100 From: Andrea Campi To: Michael Grant Message-ID: <20041129123958.GA31719@webcom.it> References: <20041129101033.GH98559@grant.org> <200411292133.25842.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <20041129122059.GI98559@grant.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041129122059.GI98559@grant.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bios disk numbers and device names X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:39:59 -0000 On Mon, Nov 29, 2004 at 07:21:00AM -0500, Michael Grant wrote: > Has anyone thought about this problem? Is there some spare space in > the label that could be used for a device name that, if set, could > be used in place of (or an alias for) a name like da0? GEOM_LABEL is what you're looking for. Check the glabel(8) man page. In a nutshell, you'd do this: tunefs -L log /dev/ad1s1a tunefs -L db /dev/da4s1a tunefs -L www /dev/da4s1a ... mount /dev/ufs/log /mnt/log mount /dev/ufs/db /mnt/db mount /dev/ufs/www /mnt/www (you get the idea). Obviously you can move use the /dev/ufs/* devices in fstab as well. If later on you move the filesystems to a different device while retaining the label (which means no tar, you have to use dd or dump/restore), everything works. Hope it helps. Bye, Andrea -- Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach him to use the Net and he won't bother you for weeks. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 12:43:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FEF816A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:43:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from laas.laas.fr (laas.laas.fr [140.93.0.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EA4743D39 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:43:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from l1@npf.deec.uc.pt) Received: by laas.laas.fr (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iATChZdw029904; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:43:40 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41AB1977.3090101@npf.pt.freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:43:35 +0100 From: Paulo User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (X11/20041020) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthias Buelow References: <51611.192.168.0.200.1101398532.squirrel@192.168.0.200> <87zn15zoqo.fsf@basilikum.skogtun.org> <41A63A78.2030506@mukappabeta.de> <41A9CC27.3030408@saunalahti.fi> <41AA70E3.2000108@mukappabeta.de> In-Reply-To: <41AA70E3.2000108@mukappabeta.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0 () X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang at CNRS-LAAS cc: Pertti Kosunen cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: the best graphicscard for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:43:42 -0000 Matthias Buelow wrote: > Yes.. that's why I also have Windows installed for a game every now > and then. I just wanted to point out that the current generation > Radeons do, in contrast to what has been claimed before, actually work > with the current Xorg release (which unfortunately hasn't arrived in > ports yet, as it seems, but is available via patchsets from the ports > maintainer). With "work", I mean, solid 2d performance (supported by > the radeon driver, not Vesa). I see 3d support as a nice add-on but > not as the core functionality. > You are forgetting that there are many people that really need fast 3D graphics. In the place I work there are people working on computer animation, 3D models visualization on linux, solaris and freebsd. All this is being developed in opengl (as raytracing are just for final work purposes) so we need very fast 3D graphics. So please add *solid 3D graphics performance* to you definition of "work". Paulo From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 13:35:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9211516A4D0 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:35:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns.exe.com.tr (ns2.exe.com.tr [213.204.66.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B22043D60 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:35:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from akara@egemenbilgisayar.com.tr) Received: from [213.204.66.201] (account akara@egemenbilgisayar.com.tr HELO geek) by ns.exe.com.tr (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.6) with ESMTP id 1800966; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 15:35:09 +0200 From: "Aykut KARA" To: Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 15:35:16 +0200 Organization: EGEMEN Bilgisayar Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-reply-to: <41AABD07.2080808@alumni.rice.edu> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcTV2fBVV5gP3rDSTF2rDk1gOgk0wQAPR8Sw cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: RE: SMP support problem - panic: APIC: Previous IPI is stuck X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:35:39 -0000 > > We are using FreeBSD 5.3R on our quad(4) cpu server. Our problem is, > > which I mentioned in subject line, "panic: APIC: Previous IPI is > > stuck". When server gives such an error, it stops responding ... > > > > I have searched all mailing lists but I can not find a solution except > > disabling SMP support in kernel which can not handle the traffic. What > > can be done in this situation? I will be pleased for your advises... > You sure you searched the mailing lists? ;-) > Stephan Uphoff produced a patch that might fix it and posted to current@ about it 2 weeks ago: > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2004-November/043156.html > Jon Yes i have already read this but it says that: "The patch is a proof of concept and therefore not optimized". How can i try such a patch on o working remote high priority server? Furthermore, there is no information in the main FreeBSD site about this patch. I just want to learn that is there any way that guarantees to fix this error? AyKuT From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 13:49:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A45216A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:49:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AF5D43D31 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:49:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scottl@freebsd.org) Received: from [192.168.254.11] (junior-wifi.samsco.home [192.168.254.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iATDqoml001335; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 06:52:50 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from scottl@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <41AB2901.1090102@freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 06:49:53 -0700 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040929 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aykut KARA References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=3.8 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on pooker.samsco.org cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SMP support problem - panic: APIC: Previous IPI is stuck X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:49:42 -0000 Aykut KARA wrote: >>>We are using FreeBSD 5.3R on our quad(4) cpu server. Our problem is, >>>which I mentioned in subject line, "panic: APIC: Previous IPI is >>>stuck". When server gives such an error, it stops responding ... >>> >>>I have searched all mailing lists but I can not find a solution except >>>disabling SMP support in kernel which can not handle the traffic. What >>>can be done in this situation? I will be pleased for your advises... > > >>You sure you searched the mailing lists? ;-) > > >>Stephan Uphoff produced a patch that might fix it and posted to current@ > > about it 2 weeks ago: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2004-November/043156.html > > >>Jon > > > Yes i have already read this but it says that: > > "The patch is a proof of concept and therefore not optimized". > > How can i try such a patch on o working remote high priority server? > Furthermore, there is no information in the main FreeBSD site about this > patch. I just want to learn that is there any way that guarantees to fix > this error? > > AyKuT > The patch represents work that is ongoing to fix the problem. You can either help with that process by trying that patch, or wait patiently until someone else tries the patch for you and declares it good. There is no information on the FreeBSD website about this patch because, well, it's a work in progress. And there are no guarantees anywhere that any of this will work at all for you. We even specify that clearly in our license =-) Scott From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 13:51:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C33D816A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:51:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from grant.org (grant.org [206.190.173.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CD5A43D5C for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:51:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mgrant@grant.org) Received: from grant.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grant.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iATDpc1E049004 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 29 Nov 2004 08:51:39 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mgrant@grant.org) Received: (from mgrant@localhost) by grant.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id iATDpcia049003; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 08:51:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mgrant) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 08:51:38 -0500 From: Michael Grant To: Andrea Campi Message-ID: <20041129135138.GK98559@grant.org> References: <20041129101033.GH98559@grant.org> <200411292133.25842.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <20041129122059.GI98559@grant.org> <20041129123958.GA31719@webcom.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041129123958.GA31719@webcom.it> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bios disk numbers and device names X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:51:44 -0000 Thanks, that seems like it will work perfectly. Do you know if I can boot a root device on say /dev/ufs/root? tunefs -L root /dev/da0a then in my fstab: /dev/ufs/root / ufs rw 1 1 Also, what is the difference between dong 'glabel lable -v root' and 'tunefs -L root'? It appears from the man page that one creates a /dev/label/root and the other creates a /dev/ufs/root. Where can I learn more about /dev/label and /dev/ufs? Thanks again. Michael Grant On Mon, Nov 29, 2004 at 01:39:58PM +0100, Andrea Campi wrote: > On Mon, Nov 29, 2004 at 07:21:00AM -0500, Michael Grant wrote: > > Has anyone thought about this problem? Is there some spare space in > > the label that could be used for a device name that, if set, could > > be used in place of (or an alias for) a name like da0? > > GEOM_LABEL is what you're looking for. Check the glabel(8) man > page. In a nutshell, you'd do this: > > tunefs -L log /dev/ad1s1a > tunefs -L db /dev/da4s1a > tunefs -L www /dev/da4s1a > ... > > mount /dev/ufs/log /mnt/log > mount /dev/ufs/db /mnt/db > mount /dev/ufs/www /mnt/www > > (you get the idea). Obviously you can move use the /dev/ufs/* > devices in fstab as well. > > If later on you move the filesystems to a different device while > retaining the label (which means no tar, you have to use dd or > dump/restore), everything works. > > Hope it helps. Bye, > Andrea > > -- > Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; > teach him to use the Net and he won't bother you for weeks. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 14:04:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8546416A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 14:04:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from saturn.futuredesigns.net (saturn.futuredesigns.net [216.46.197.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D1AFA43D31 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 14:04:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sturdee@mikesweb.com) Received: (qmail 97031 invoked by uid 1000); 29 Nov 2004 14:04:18 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 29 Nov 2004 14:04:18 -0000 Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 09:04:18 -0500 (EST) From: Mike To: Ivan Voras In-Reply-To: <41A60264.30109@fer.hr> Message-ID: <20041129090232.Y57727@saturn.mikesweb.com> References: <41A60264.30109@fer.hr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Huge slapd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 14:04:20 -0000 Running 2.2.18, mine gets up to 600+ MB before crashing with an "unable to ch_malloc" error. Have had this with several of the 2.2.x releases, went back to 2.2.17 and it's running fine again. I think this is more of something for the openldap-users list. -Mike On Thu, 25 Nov 2004, Ivan Voras wrote: > After a few days of mostly test load, top reports that the slapd process > (OpenLDAP server) is huge: > > 439 ldap 20 0 149M 6128K kserel 0:07 0.00% 0.00% slapd > > I know that the actually used memory size is the 6MB figure above, but why > does it allocate almost 150MB? Is it normal? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 14:06:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B6B716A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 14:06:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from acampi.inet.it (acampi.inet.it [213.92.1.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8C9D43D1F for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 14:06:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andrea@acampi.inet.it) Received: by acampi.inet.it (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2DD161A; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 15:06:56 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 15:06:56 +0100 From: Andrea Campi To: Michael Grant Message-ID: <20041129140655.GB31719@webcom.it> References: <20041129101033.GH98559@grant.org> <200411292133.25842.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <20041129122059.GI98559@grant.org> <20041129123958.GA31719@webcom.it> <20041129135138.GK98559@grant.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041129135138.GK98559@grant.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bios disk numbers and device names X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 14:06:57 -0000 On Mon, Nov 29, 2004 at 08:51:38AM -0500, Michael Grant wrote: > Thanks, that seems like it will work perfectly. Do you know if I can > boot a root device on say /dev/ufs/root? > > tunefs -L root /dev/da0a > > then in my fstab: > /dev/ufs/root / ufs rw 1 1 Don't know. > Also, what is the difference between dong 'glabel lable -v root' and > 'tunefs -L root'? It appears from the man page that one creates a > /dev/label/root and the other creates a /dev/ufs/root. > > Where can I learn more about /dev/label and /dev/ufs? Thanks again. The manpage explains it all, and that's all I know as well. glabel specifies a transient label, i.e. it's not saved on the disk, so you loose it on reboot or if the disk goes away. If you need to know more... use the source Luke, use the source. ;-) Andrea > > Michael Grant > > > On Mon, Nov 29, 2004 at 01:39:58PM +0100, Andrea Campi wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 29, 2004 at 07:21:00AM -0500, Michael Grant wrote: > > > Has anyone thought about this problem? Is there some spare space in > > > the label that could be used for a device name that, if set, could > > > be used in place of (or an alias for) a name like da0? > > > > GEOM_LABEL is what you're looking for. Check the glabel(8) man > > page. In a nutshell, you'd do this: > > > > tunefs -L log /dev/ad1s1a > > tunefs -L db /dev/da4s1a > > tunefs -L www /dev/da4s1a > > ... > > > > mount /dev/ufs/log /mnt/log > > mount /dev/ufs/db /mnt/db > > mount /dev/ufs/www /mnt/www > > > > (you get the idea). Obviously you can move use the /dev/ufs/* > > devices in fstab as well. > > > > If later on you move the filesystems to a different device while > > retaining the label (which means no tar, you have to use dd or > > dump/restore), everything works. > > > > Hope it helps. Bye, > > Andrea > > > > -- > > Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; > > teach him to use the Net and he won't bother you for weeks. > -- Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach him to use the Net and he won't bother you for weeks. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 14:39:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2083B16A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 14:39:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from opium.dyndns.org (h179n2c1o255.bredband.skanova.com [81.225.9.179]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D3A543D69 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 14:39:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from busta@33rpm.biz) Received: from opium (localhost.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) by opium.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD56E61D3 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 15:39:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from 192.168.0.200 (SquirrelMail authenticated user busta@33rpm.biz); by opium with HTTP; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 15:39:12 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <57343.192.168.0.200.1101739152.squirrel@192.168.0.200> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 15:39:12 +0100 (CET) From: "alex bustamante" To: stable@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: slow mouse in X11 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: busta@33rpm.biz List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 14:39:15 -0000 How come that when i run X11 under FreeBSD my Intellimouse is a lot slower than in X11 under Linux? I use Option Protocol "auto" under FreeBSD and Option Protocol "ImPS/2" under linux. Somehow it feels like the mouse's resolution is different in FreeBSD. I've tried with Option Resolution from 100-2000 without any luck. -- alex bustamante - busta@33rpm.biz From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 15:10:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A62D16A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 15:10:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from speechpro.com (speech-tech-2.ip.PeterStar.net [81.3.190.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DA9543D2D for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 15:10:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from igorr@speechpro.com) Received: from server-2003.stc ([192.168.14.249]) by S1.stc with esmtp (Exim 4.34; FreeBSD) id 1CYnAU-0009Tz-If for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 18:10:22 +0300 Message-ID: <41AB3C2C.6010109@speechpro.com> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 18:11:40 +0300 From: Igor User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <41A8F67F.8040104@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <41A8F67F.8040104@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archived: Yes Subject: Re: Live CD with most # network debug programs X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 15:10:35 -0000 Rob wrote: > Hi all, > > Is there any particular live filesystem iso which has more network > debugging routines than the others? What is *Frenzy*? *Frenzy* is a "portable system administrator toolkit," LiveCD based on FreeBSD. Frenzy 0.3 is based on FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE ftp://ftp.opennet.ru/pub/mini-cd/Frenzy-BSD/ -- Igor Robul, System administrator at Speech Technology Center http://www.speechpro.com http://www.speechpro.ru From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 15:15:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48D5116A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 15:15:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from c00l3r.networx.ch (c00l3r.networx.ch [62.48.2.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6587B43D62 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 15:15:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andre@freebsd.org) Received: (qmail 2223 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2004 15:07:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO freebsd.org) ([62.48.0.53]) (envelope-sender ) by c00l3r.networx.ch (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 29 Nov 2004 15:07:20 -0000 Message-ID: <41AB3D24.80DEBD08@freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 16:15:48 +0100 From: Andre Oppermann X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "David G. Lawrence" References: <41A628F3.3000309@freebsd.org> <20041125205210.GA673@opteron.dglawrence.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Jeremie Le Hen cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: Robert Watson cc: Sean McNeil cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: serious networking (em) performance (ggate and NFS) problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 15:15:47 -0000 "David G. Lawrence" wrote: > > > >>tests. With the re driver, no change except placing a 100BT setup with > > >>no packet loss to a gigE setup (both linksys switches) will cause > > >>serious packet loss at 20Mbps data rates. I have discovered the only > > >>way to get good performance with no packet loss was to > > >> > > >>1) Remove interrupt moderation > > >>2) defrag each mbuf that comes in to the driver. > > > > > >Sounds like you're bumping into a queue limit that is made worse by > > >interrupting less frequently, resulting in bursts of packets that are > > >relatively large, rather than a trickle of packets at a higher rate. > > >Perhaps a limit on the number of outstanding descriptors in the driver or > > >hardware and/or a limit in the netisr/ifqueue queue depth. You might try > > >changing the default IFQ_MAXLEN from 50 to 128 to increase the size of the > > >ifnet and netisr queues. You could also try setting net.isr.enable=1 to > > >enable direct dispatch, which in the in-bound direction would reduce the > > >number of context switches and queueing. It sounds like the device driver > > >has a limit of 256 receive and transmit descriptors, which one supposes is > > >probably derived from the hardware limit, but I have no documentation on > > >hand so can't confirm that. > > > > > >It would be interesting on the send and receive sides to inspect the > > >counters for drops at various points in the network stack; i.e., are we > > >dropping packets at the ifq handoff because we're overfilling the > > >descriptors in the driver, are packets dropped on the inbound path going > > >into the netisr due to over-filling before the netisr is scheduled, etc. > > >And, it's probably interesting to look at stats on filling the socket > > >buffers for the same reason: if bursts of packets come up the stack, the > > >socket buffers could well be being over-filled before the user thread can > > >run. > > > > I think it's the tcp_output() path that overflows the transmit side of > > the card. I take that from the better numbers when he defrags the packets. > > Once I catch up with my mails I start to put up the code I wrote over the > > last two weeks. :-) You can call me Mr. TCP now. ;-) > > He was doing his test with NFS over TCP, right? ...That would be a single > connection, so how is it possible to 'overflow the transmit side of the > card'? The TCP window size will prevent more than 64KB to be outstanding. > Assuming standard size ethernet frames, that would be a maximum of 45 packets > in-flight at any time (65536/1460=45), well below the 256 available transmit > descriptors. > It is also worth pointing out that 45 full-size packets is 540us at > gig-e speeds. Even when you add up typical switch latencies and interrupt > overhead and coalesing on both sides, it's hard to imagine that the window > size (bandwidth * delay) would be a significant limiting factor across a > gig-e LAN. For some reason he is getting long mbuf chains and that is why a call to m_defrag helps. With long mbuf chains you can easily overflow the transmit descriptors. > I too am seeing low NFS performance (both TCP and UDP) with non-SMP > 5.3, but on the same systems I can measure raw TCP performance (using > ttcp) of >850Mbps. It looks to me like there is something wrong with > NFS, perhaps caused by delays with scheduling nfsd? -- Andre From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 15:30:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BF9916A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 15:30:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from heisenberg.zen.co.uk (heisenberg.zen.co.uk [212.23.3.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4377043D55 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 15:30:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stacey@vickiandstacey.com) Received: from [82.68.31.182] (helo=Demon.vickiandstacey.com) by heisenberg.zen.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1CYnUI-0005Ft-Q5; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 15:30:50 +0000 Received: from crom.vickiandstacey.com (crom [192.168.1.10]) iATFUrxD055182; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 15:30:53 GMT (envelope-from stacey@vickiandstacey.com) Received: from crom.vickiandstacey.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) iATFUgIC024910; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 15:30:42 GMT (envelope-from stacey@crom.vickiandstacey.com) Received: (from stacey@localhost) by crom.vickiandstacey.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id iATFUbqh024909; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 15:30:37 GMT (envelope-from stacey) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 15:30:37 +0000 From: Stacey Roberts To: Mark Kirkwood Message-ID: <20041129153037.GQ12622@crom.vickiandstacey.com> References: <41AACD27.6030506@paradise.net.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Qf1oXS95uex85X0R" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41AACD27.6030506@paradise.net.nz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Originating-Heisenberg-IP: [82.68.31.182] X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot install 5.3 on tyan tiger 133 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 15:30:53 -0000 --Qf1oXS95uex85X0R Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hi Mark, ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Kirkwood " To: To freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 29 Nov, 2004 07:17 GMT Subject: Cannot install 5.3 on tyan tiger 133 > Recently I decided to make the switch from 4.x to 5.x, now that 5 has > moved to stable. So about a week ago I installed 5.3 on my workstation > machine, a Tyan Trinity 400. All went well, so yesterday I decided to do > my "server" - a Tyan Tiger 133. Since these shared the same chipset I > thought all would go well too. > > Not the case, I cannot even boot from the 5.3 cd - the machine hangs or > reboots immediately upon trying to boot the (I get a fleeting glance at > the drive mappings, that is all). I have verified the checksums on the > iso image I used (and the same cd installed the Trinity with no problems) I've got the same problem here on a Tyan Tiger 230 (http://www.tyan.com/products/html/tiger230.html). As well as with your experiences, I can't seem to boot two sets of FreeBSD-5.3 REL CD-ROM sets from different suppliers. Here's what I get with any of the 5.3 REL installation cd's: Just at the point where you'd expect the /sbin/loader bit to start that goes into the FreeBSD boot process, I get lots of (what appears to be hex numbers) gibberish scrolling up the screen. Like you I thought that I might have a faulty cdrom drive, but swapping in a (sealed) drive produced the same results. However, the FreeBSD-4.10 REL cd's do appear to "start" working through the installation, but then I get lots of errors / warnings as follows: acdo: MODE_SENSE_BIG command timeout - resetting ata1: resetting devices... done These scroll up the screen for ages and do not appear to be going anywhere - at which point I power down the system. > > This machine was running 4.10, and in case I have a suddenly bad cdrom, > I have installed 5.1 (the only other 5.x series I have lying around), > which completes fine. I've not got 5.1, but I did try the 5.2.1 CD-ROM Set (from BSDMall) as well with the same failure. What I was able to do is successfully install MS Windows 2K Pro, 2K Server & Fedora Core-3 on the same hardware over the last few hours - in fact, its now running Fedora Core-3 (apparently) happily. I've attached the dmesg from the Fedora install for anyone that might be intested in what the problem might be. Regards, Stacey > > Any ideas? > > More detailed specs on the machine: > > - Tyan Tiger 133 (S1834 Rev G) > - 2xPIII 700/100/256 , 2G RAM, Promise TX2000, 2xMaxtor Plus 8 ATA-133 40G > > regards > > Mark > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --Qf1oXS95uex85X0R-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 15:41:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74C8916A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 15:41:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from speechpro.com (speech-tech-2.ip.PeterStar.net [81.3.190.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A8DF43D2F for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 15:41:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from igorr@speechpro.com) Received: from server-2003.stc ([192.168.14.249]) by S1.stc with esmtp (Exim 4.34; FreeBSD) id 1CYneN-000ALR-2N for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 18:41:15 +0300 Message-ID: <41AB4369.2030306@speechpro.com> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 18:42:33 +0300 From: Igor User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <57343.192.168.0.200.1101739152.squirrel@192.168.0.200> In-Reply-To: <57343.192.168.0.200.1101739152.squirrel@192.168.0.200> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archived: Yes Subject: Re: slow mouse in X11 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 15:41:27 -0000 alex bustamante wrote: >How come that when i run X11 under FreeBSD my Intellimouse is a lot slower >than in X11 under Linux? I use Option Protocol "auto" under FreeBSD and >Option Protocol "ImPS/2" under linux. Somehow it feels like the mouse's >resolution >is different in FreeBSD. I've tried with Option Resolution from 100-2000 >without any luck. > > Try boot FreeBSD with ACPI turned off. I had same looking proble on one MSI motherboard with i815 chipset, but I had not this problem with other boards with this chipset, so problem was in ACPI support by concrete BIOS. -- Igor Robul, System administrator at Speech Technology Center http://www.speechpro.com http://www.speechpro.ru From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 15:49:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DFC716A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 15:49:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail5.atl.registeredsite.com (mail5.atl.registeredsite.com [64.224.219.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97FCE43D4C for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 15:49:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris.wall@cbrworld.com) Received: from mail.cbrworld.com (mail.cbrworld.com [209.35.142.111]) iATFnC6l025021; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 15:49:12 GMT Received: from [192.168.1.3] [209.35.142.111] by mail.cbrworld.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.15) id A5BB5BBC007C; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:52:27 -0500 Message-ID: <41AB44E9.80904@cbrworld.com> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 09:48:57 -0600 From: Chris Wall User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (Windows/20040502) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stacey Roberts References: <41AACD27.6030506@paradise.net.nz> <20041129153037.GQ12622@crom.vickiandstacey.com> In-Reply-To: <20041129153037.GQ12622@crom.vickiandstacey.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org cc: Mark Kirkwood Subject: Re: Cannot install 5.3 on tyan tiger 133 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 15:49:14 -0000 Stacey Roberts wrote: >Hi Mark, > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Mark Kirkwood " >To: To freebsd-stable@freebsd.org >Date: Mon, 29 Nov, 2004 07:17 GMT >Subject: Cannot install 5.3 on tyan tiger 133 > > > >>Recently I decided to make the switch from 4.x to 5.x, now that 5 has >>moved to stable. So about a week ago I installed 5.3 on my workstation >>machine, a Tyan Trinity 400. All went well, so yesterday I decided to do >>my "server" - a Tyan Tiger 133. Since these shared the same chipset I >>thought all would go well too. >> >>Not the case, I cannot even boot from the 5.3 cd - the machine hangs or >>reboots immediately upon trying to boot the (I get a fleeting glance at >>the drive mappings, that is all). I have verified the checksums on the >>iso image I used (and the same cd installed the Trinity with no problems) >> >> > >I've got the same problem here on a Tyan Tiger 230 (http://www.tyan.com/products/html/tiger230.html). As well as with your experiences, I can't seem to boot two sets of FreeBSD-5.3 REL CD-ROM sets from different suppliers. Here's what I get with any of the 5.3 REL installation cd's: > >Just at the point where you'd expect the /sbin/loader bit to start that goes into the FreeBSD boot process, I get lots of (what appears to be hex numbers) gibberish scrolling up the screen. Like you I thought that I might have a faulty cdrom drive, but swapping in a (sealed) drive produced the same results. > >However, the FreeBSD-4.10 REL cd's do appear to "start" working through the installation, but then I get lots of errors / warnings as follows: > >acdo: MODE_SENSE_BIG command timeout - resetting >ata1: resetting devices... done > >These scroll up the screen for ages and do not appear to be going anywhere - at which point I power down the system. > > > >>This machine was running 4.10, and in case I have a suddenly bad cdrom, >>I have installed 5.1 (the only other 5.x series I have lying around), >>which completes fine. >> >> > >I've not got 5.1, but I did try the 5.2.1 CD-ROM Set (from BSDMall) as well with the same failure. What I was able to do is successfully install MS Windows 2K Pro, 2K Server & Fedora Core-3 on the same hardware over the last few hours - in fact, its now running Fedora Core-3 (apparently) happily. I've attached the dmesg from the Fedora install for anyone that might be intested in what the problem might be. > >Regards, > >Stacey > > > >>Any ideas? >> >>More detailed specs on the machine: >> >>- Tyan Tiger 133 (S1834 Rev G) >>- 2xPIII 700/100/256 , 2G RAM, Promise TX2000, 2xMaxtor Plus 8 ATA-133 40G >> >>regards >> >>Mark >>_______________________________________________ >>freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >>_______________________________________________ >>freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> I didn't have any problems with my Tiger 133, although I am running a SCSI disk setup. Processors 2 Model Intel Pentium III Chip MHz 800 MHz PCI Devices agp0: VIA 82C691 (Apollo Pro) host to PCI bridge pcib1: PCI-PCI bridge isab0: PCI-ISA bridge atapci0: VIA 82C596B UDMA66 controller ahc0: Adaptec 2940 Ultra SCSI adapter fxp0: Intel 82558 Pro/100 Ethernet IDE Devices /none/ SCSI Devices cd0: PIONEER DVD-ROM DVD-305 1.06 da0: IBM DNES-318350W SA30 (Capacity: 17.93 GB) Chris From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 15:55:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D80F216A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 15:55:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F85B43D1F for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 15:55:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from [192.168.1.250] (pool-68-161-115-118.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.115.118]) by pi.codefab.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iATFsnoc042983 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:54:51 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <41AB4643.90807@mac.com> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:54:43 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ivan Voras References: <41A60264.30109@fer.hr> <41AA6F6E.1080809@mac.com> <20041129004546.GA1541@k7.mavetju> <41AAF2BE.7030800@fer.hr> In-Reply-To: <41AAF2BE.7030800@fer.hr> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.6 required=5.5 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on pi.codefab.com cc: Edwin Groothuis cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Huge slapd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 15:55:11 -0000 Ivan Voras wrote: > Edwin Groothuis wrote: >> On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 07:38:06PM -0500, Chuck Swiger wrote: [ ... ] >>>> I know that the actually used memory size is the 6MB figure above, >>>> but why does it allocate almost 150MB? Is it normal? >>> >>> This sounds like a classic example of a memory leak. >> >> Had the same before I moved to openldap 2.2 > > I should have said - this *is* openldap 2.2, from a week ago, on 5-stable. You can work around the problem to some extent by making sure the system has plenty of swap space available, and/or by restarting slapd on a regular basis (weekly or even nightly). However, the real solution involves identifying what is leaking and having the authors of LDAP fix that problem. You can use gdb to attach to the process and examine memory in order to get some clues as to what is going on. You can link slapd against a malloc debuuging tool like Purify or dmalloc, however, I would really like to see a tool for FreeBSD which resembles "leaks" under MacOS X: 1-base# leaks syntax: leaks 1 ... n {-exclude }* to exclude specific symbols With -nocontext, the hex dump of leaked memory is supressed. If the target ran with 'setenv MallocStackLogging 1, then the call stack leading to the allocation is shown. With -nostacks, the call stack for the allocation is supressed. 2-base# psg zsh root 9474 0.0 0.2 28172 1236 std Ss 10:45AM 0:00.30 zsh 3-base# leaks 9474 Process 9474: 3703 nodes malloced for 125 KB Process 9474: 0 leaks for 0 total leaked bytes. 4-base# psg syslogd root 78 0.0 0.0 18092 188 ?? Ss 19Aug04 18:42.23 /usr/sbin/syslogd -s -m 0 5-base# leaks 78 Process 78: 284 nodes malloced for 38 KB Process 78: 232 leaks for 5568 total leaked bytes. Leak: 0x001018f0 size=32 0x00000000 0x00000002 0x00000002 0x00000011 0x00000010 0x00000000 0x001018b0 0x00000000 Leak: 0x001018c0 size=32 0x00000000 0x00000002 0x00000002 0x00000011 0x00000010 0x00000000 0x00101880 0x00000000 [ ... ] Is there anything like this available for FreeBSD? -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 16:09:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 633E616A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 16:09:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp002.bizmail.yahoo.com (smtp002.bizmail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.126]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2079A43D1F for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 16:09:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from noackjr@alumni.rice.edu) Received: from unknown (HELO optimator.noacks.org) (noackjr@supercrime.org@70.240.198.174 with login) by smtp002.bizmail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Nov 2004 16:09:48 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimator.noacks.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 062006152; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:09:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from optimator.noacks.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (optimator.noacks.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 78643-10; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:09:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from www.noacks.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimator.noacks.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 760EC614D; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:09:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from 69.53.57.66 (SquirrelMail authenticated user noackjr); by www.noacks.org with HTTP; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:09:46 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <29616.69.53.57.66.1101744586.squirrel@69.53.57.66> In-Reply-To: <57343.192.168.0.200.1101739152.squirrel@192.168.0.200> References: <57343.192.168.0.200.1101739152.squirrel@192.168.0.200> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:09:46 -0600 (CST) From: "Jon Noack" To: busta@33rpm.biz User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at noacks.org cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: slow mouse in X11 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: noackjr@alumni.rice.edu List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 16:09:49 -0000 alex bustamante wrote: > How come that when i run X11 under FreeBSD my Intellimouse is a lot slower > than in X11 under Linux? I use Option Protocol "auto" under FreeBSD and > Option Protocol "ImPS/2" under linux. Somehow it feels like the mouse's > resolution is different in FreeBSD. I've tried with Option Resolution from > 100-2000 without any luck. I use the following in my xorg.conf (same should work for xfree86 as well): # Mouse-speed setting for PS/2 mouse. Option "Resolution" "400" Seems to work fine... Jon From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 16:13:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6275A16A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 16:13:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from heisenberg.zen.co.uk (heisenberg.zen.co.uk [212.23.3.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B069843D5C for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 16:13:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stacey@vickiandstacey.com) Received: from [82.68.31.179] (helo=Demon.vickiandstacey.com) by heisenberg.zen.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1CYo9n-0004ZZ-3X; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 16:13:43 +0000 Received: from crom.vickiandstacey.com (crom [192.168.1.10]) iATGDkmi055221; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 16:13:46 GMT (envelope-from stacey@vickiandstacey.com) Received: from crom.vickiandstacey.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) iATGDTAg025093; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 16:13:34 GMT (envelope-from stacey@crom.vickiandstacey.com) Received: (from stacey@localhost) by crom.vickiandstacey.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id iATGDIX8025092; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 16:13:18 GMT (envelope-from stacey) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 16:13:18 +0000 From: Stacey Roberts To: Chris Wall Message-ID: <20041129161318.GR12622@crom.vickiandstacey.com> References: <41AACD27.6030506@paradise.net.nz> <20041129153037.GQ12622@crom.vickiandstacey.com> <41AB44E9.80904@cbrworld.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41AB44E9.80904@cbrworld.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Originating-Heisenberg-IP: [82.68.31.179] cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org cc: Mark Kirkwood cc: Stacey Roberts Subject: Re: Cannot install 5.3 on tyan tiger 133 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 16:13:45 -0000 Hi Chris, ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Wall " To: To Stacey Roberts Date: Mon, 29 Nov, 2004 15:48 GMT Subject: Re: Cannot install 5.3 on tyan tiger 133 > Stacey Roberts wrote: > > >Hi Mark, > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Mark Kirkwood " > >To: To freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > >Date: Mon, 29 Nov, 2004 07:17 GMT > >Subject: Cannot install 5.3 on tyan tiger 133 > > > > > > > >>Recently I decided to make the switch from 4.x to 5.x, now that 5 has > >>moved to stable. So about a week ago I installed 5.3 on my workstation > >>machine, a Tyan Trinity 400. All went well, so yesterday I decided to do > >>my "server" - a Tyan Tiger 133. Since these shared the same chipset I > >>thought all would go well too. > >> > >>Not the case, I cannot even boot from the 5.3 cd - the machine hangs or > >>reboots immediately upon trying to boot the (I get a fleeting glance at > >>the drive mappings, that is all). I have verified the checksums on the > >>iso image I used (and the same cd installed the Trinity with no problems) > >> > >> > > > >I've got the same problem here on a Tyan Tiger 230 > >(http://www.tyan.com/products/html/tiger230.html). As well as with your > >experiences, I can't seem to boot two sets of FreeBSD-5.3 REL CD-ROM sets > >from different suppliers. Here's what I get with any of the 5.3 REL > >installation cd's: > > > >Just at the point where you'd expect the /sbin/loader bit to start that > >goes into the FreeBSD boot process, I get lots of (what appears to be hex > >numbers) gibberish scrolling up the screen. Like you I thought that I > >might have a faulty cdrom drive, but swapping in a (sealed) drive produced > >the same results. > > > >However, the FreeBSD-4.10 REL cd's do appear to "start" working through > >the installation, but then I get lots of errors / warnings as follows: > > > >acdo: MODE_SENSE_BIG command timeout - resetting > >ata1: resetting devices... done > > > >These scroll up the screen for ages and do not appear to be going anywhere > >- at which point I power down the system. > > > > > > > >>This machine was running 4.10, and in case I have a suddenly bad cdrom, > >>I have installed 5.1 (the only other 5.x series I have lying around), > >>which completes fine. > >> > >> > > > >I've not got 5.1, but I did try the 5.2.1 CD-ROM Set (from BSDMall) as > >well with the same failure. What I was able to do is successfully install > >MS Windows 2K Pro, 2K Server & Fedora Core-3 on the same hardware over the > >last few hours - in fact, its now running Fedora Core-3 (apparently) > >happily. I've attached the dmesg from the Fedora install for anyone that > >might be intested in what the problem might be. > > > >Regards, > > > >Stacey > > > > > > > >>Any ideas? > >> > >>More detailed specs on the machine: > >> > >>- Tyan Tiger 133 (S1834 Rev G) > >>- 2xPIII 700/100/256 , 2G RAM, Promise TX2000, 2xMaxtor Plus 8 ATA-133 40G > >> > >>regards > >> > >>Mark > >>_______________________________________________ > >>freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> > >> > >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> > >> > I didn't have any problems with my Tiger 133, although I am running a > SCSI disk setup. I've got only SCSI disks on my system: 2 x QUANTUM Model: ATLAS10K3_18_WLS Rev: 020W Running off of a Tekram DC-390U3W card: sym0:1: FAST-80 WIDE SCSI 160.0 MB/s DT (12.5 ns, offset 62) Its an SMP set up: 2 x Intel Pentium III 866: Intel machine check architecture supported. Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#1. CPU1: Intel Pentium III (Coppermine) stepping 0a Total of 2 processors activated (3432.44 BogoMIPS). ENABLING IO-APIC IRQs ..TIMER: vector=0x31 pin1=2 pin2=-1 checking TSC synchronization across 2 CPUs: passed. Brought up 2 CPUs zapping low mappings. Keeping in mind that the above output is from Fedora-Core3 built on the same machine early this morning.., Did you install from FreeBSD-5.3 REL cd's? Regards, Stacey > Processors 2 > Model Intel Pentium III > Chip MHz 800 MHz > PCI Devices agp0: VIA 82C691 (Apollo Pro) host to PCI bridge > pcib1: PCI-PCI bridge > isab0: PCI-ISA bridge > atapci0: VIA 82C596B UDMA66 controller > ahc0: Adaptec 2940 Ultra SCSI adapter > fxp0: Intel 82558 Pro/100 Ethernet > IDE Devices /none/ > SCSI Devices cd0: PIONEER DVD-ROM DVD-305 1.06 > da0: IBM DNES-318350W SA30 (Capacity: 17.93 GB) > > Chris From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 16:29:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E36816A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 16:29:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail6.atl.registeredsite.com (mail6.atl.registeredsite.com [64.224.219.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9126243D2D for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 16:29:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris.wall@cbrworld.com) Received: from mail.cbrworld.com (mail.cbrworld.com [209.35.142.111]) iATGT09n009376 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 16:29:00 GMT Received: from [192.168.1.3] [209.35.142.111] by mail.cbrworld.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.15) id AF0F2B0100CC; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 11:32:15 -0500 Message-ID: <41AB4E3A.5040604@cbrworld.com> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:28:42 -0600 From: Chris Wall User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (Windows/20040502) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <41AACD27.6030506@paradise.net.nz> <20041129153037.GQ12622@crom.vickiandstacey.com> <41AB44E9.80904@cbrworld.com> <20041129161318.GR12622@crom.vickiandstacey.com> In-Reply-To: <20041129161318.GR12622@crom.vickiandstacey.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Cannot install 5.3 on tyan tiger 133 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 16:29:01 -0000 Stacey Roberts wrote: >Hi Chris, > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Chris Wall " >To: To Stacey Roberts >Date: Mon, 29 Nov, 2004 15:48 GMT >Subject: Re: Cannot install 5.3 on tyan tiger 133 > > > >>Stacey Roberts wrote: >> >> >> >>>Hi Mark, >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Mark Kirkwood " >>>To: To freebsd-stable@freebsd.org >>>Date: Mon, 29 Nov, 2004 07:17 GMT >>>Subject: Cannot install 5.3 on tyan tiger 133 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Recently I decided to make the switch from 4.x to 5.x, now that 5 has >>>>moved to stable. So about a week ago I installed 5.3 on my workstation >>>>machine, a Tyan Trinity 400. All went well, so yesterday I decided to do >>>>my "server" - a Tyan Tiger 133. Since these shared the same chipset I >>>>thought all would go well too. >>>> >>>>Not the case, I cannot even boot from the 5.3 cd - the machine hangs or >>>>reboots immediately upon trying to boot the (I get a fleeting glance at >>>>the drive mappings, that is all). I have verified the checksums on the >>>>iso image I used (and the same cd installed the Trinity with no problems) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>I've got the same problem here on a Tyan Tiger 230 >>>(http://www.tyan.com/products/html/tiger230.html). As well as with your >>>experiences, I can't seem to boot two sets of FreeBSD-5.3 REL CD-ROM sets >>> >>> >>>from different suppliers. Here's what I get with any of the 5.3 REL >> >> >>>installation cd's: >>> >>>Just at the point where you'd expect the /sbin/loader bit to start that >>>goes into the FreeBSD boot process, I get lots of (what appears to be hex >>>numbers) gibberish scrolling up the screen. Like you I thought that I >>>might have a faulty cdrom drive, but swapping in a (sealed) drive produced >>>the same results. >>> >>>However, the FreeBSD-4.10 REL cd's do appear to "start" working through >>>the installation, but then I get lots of errors / warnings as follows: >>> >>>acdo: MODE_SENSE_BIG command timeout - resetting >>>ata1: resetting devices... done >>> >>>These scroll up the screen for ages and do not appear to be going anywhere >>>- at which point I power down the system. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>This machine was running 4.10, and in case I have a suddenly bad cdrom, >>>>I have installed 5.1 (the only other 5.x series I have lying around), >>>>which completes fine. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>I've not got 5.1, but I did try the 5.2.1 CD-ROM Set (from BSDMall) as >>>well with the same failure. What I was able to do is successfully install >>>MS Windows 2K Pro, 2K Server & Fedora Core-3 on the same hardware over the >>>last few hours - in fact, its now running Fedora Core-3 (apparently) >>>happily. I've attached the dmesg from the Fedora install for anyone that >>>might be intested in what the problem might be. >>> >>>Regards, >>> >>>Stacey >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Any ideas? >>>> >>>>More detailed specs on the machine: >>>> >>>>- Tyan Tiger 133 (S1834 Rev G) >>>>- 2xPIII 700/100/256 , 2G RAM, Promise TX2000, 2xMaxtor Plus 8 ATA-133 40G >>>> >>>>regards >>>> >>>>Mark >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list >>>>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable >>>>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>> >>>> >>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list >>>>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable >>>>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>I didn't have any problems with my Tiger 133, although I am running a >>SCSI disk setup. >> >> > >I've got only SCSI disks on my system: >2 x QUANTUM Model: ATLAS10K3_18_WLS Rev: 020W > >Running off of a Tekram DC-390U3W card: >sym0:1: FAST-80 WIDE SCSI 160.0 MB/s DT (12.5 ns, offset 62) > >Its an SMP set up: >2 x Intel Pentium III 866: >Intel machine check architecture supported. >Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#1. >CPU1: Intel Pentium III (Coppermine) stepping 0a >Total of 2 processors activated (3432.44 BogoMIPS). >ENABLING IO-APIC IRQs >..TIMER: vector=0x31 pin1=2 pin2=-1 >checking TSC synchronization across 2 CPUs: passed. >Brought up 2 CPUs >zapping low mappings. > >Keeping in mind that the above output is from Fedora-Core3 built on the same machine early this morning.., > >Did you install from FreeBSD-5.3 REL cd's? > >Regards, > >Stacey > > > > >>Processors 2 >>Model Intel Pentium III >>Chip MHz 800 MHz >>PCI Devices agp0: VIA 82C691 (Apollo Pro) host to PCI bridge >>pcib1: PCI-PCI bridge >>isab0: PCI-ISA bridge >>atapci0: VIA 82C596B UDMA66 controller >>ahc0: Adaptec 2940 Ultra SCSI adapter >>fxp0: Intel 82558 Pro/100 Ethernet >>IDE Devices /none/ >>SCSI Devices cd0: PIONEER DVD-ROM DVD-305 1.06 >>da0: IBM DNES-318350W SA30 (Capacity: 17.93 GB) >> >>Chris >> >> >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > Yes, I first upgraded from 5.2, then I did a fresh install from the 5.3-RELEASE CDs and didn't experence a problem on either method. I also have a Tyan 230T that was talked about in this thread that didn't give me any problems either. Now all I run on this server is a web site, so it is base install plus Apache, PHP, etc. - no X or desktops. I remember that there were two types of Tiger 133's one with ISA and one without (mine is without ISA slot). Chris From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 16:50:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4962416A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 16:50:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pythagoras.zen.co.uk (pythagoras.zen.co.uk [212.23.3.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A8AD43D46 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 16:50:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stacey@vickiandstacey.com) Received: from [82.68.31.177] (helo=Demon.vickiandstacey.com) by pythagoras.zen.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1CYojR-00012x-8I; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 16:50:33 +0000 Received: from crom.vickiandstacey.com (crom [192.168.1.10]) iATGobwh055252; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 16:50:37 GMT (envelope-from stacey@vickiandstacey.com) Received: from crom.vickiandstacey.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) iATGoJbm025260; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 16:50:24 GMT (envelope-from stacey@crom.vickiandstacey.com) Received: (from stacey@localhost) by crom.vickiandstacey.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id iATGoEvr025259; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 16:50:14 GMT (envelope-from stacey) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 16:50:14 +0000 From: Stacey Roberts To: Chris Wall Message-ID: <20041129165014.GS12622@crom.vickiandstacey.com> References: <41AACD27.6030506@paradise.net.nz> <20041129153037.GQ12622@crom.vickiandstacey.com> <41AB44E9.80904@cbrworld.com> <20041129161318.GR12622@crom.vickiandstacey.com> <41AB4E3A.5040604@cbrworld.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41AB4E3A.5040604@cbrworld.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Originating-Pythagoras-IP: [82.68.31.177] cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot install 5.3 on tyan tiger 133 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 16:50:35 -0000 Hi Chris, ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Wall " To: To freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 29 Nov, 2004 16:28 GMT Subject: Re: Cannot install 5.3 on tyan tiger 133 > Stacey Roberts wrote: > > >Hi Chris, > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Chris Wall " > >To: To Stacey Roberts > >Date: Mon, 29 Nov, 2004 15:48 GMT > >Subject: Re: Cannot install 5.3 on tyan tiger 133 > > > > > > > >>Stacey Roberts wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>Hi Mark, > >>> > >>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>From: "Mark Kirkwood " > >>>To: To freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > >>>Date: Mon, 29 Nov, 2004 07:17 GMT > >>>Subject: Cannot install 5.3 on tyan tiger 133 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>Recently I decided to make the switch from 4.x to 5.x, now that 5 has > >>>>moved to stable. So about a week ago I installed 5.3 on my workstation > >>>>machine, a Tyan Trinity 400. All went well, so yesterday I decided to > >>>>do my "server" - a Tyan Tiger 133. Since these shared the same chipset > >>>>I thought all would go well too. > >>>> > >>>>Not the case, I cannot even boot from the 5.3 cd - the machine hangs or > >>>>reboots immediately upon trying to boot the (I get a fleeting glance at > >>>>the drive mappings, that is all). I have verified the checksums on the > >>>>iso image I used (and the same cd installed the Trinity with no > >>>>problems) > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>I've got the same problem here on a Tyan Tiger 230 > >>>(http://www.tyan.com/products/html/tiger230.html). As well as with your > >>>experiences, I can't seem to boot two sets of FreeBSD-5.3 REL CD-ROM > >>>sets > >>> > >>>from different suppliers. Here's what I get with any of the 5.3 REL > >> > >> > >>>installation cd's: > >>> > >>>Just at the point where you'd expect the /sbin/loader bit to start that > >>>goes into the FreeBSD boot process, I get lots of (what appears to be > >>>hex numbers) gibberish scrolling up the screen. Like you I thought that > >>>I might have a faulty cdrom drive, but swapping in a (sealed) drive > >>>produced the same results. > >>> > >>>However, the FreeBSD-4.10 REL cd's do appear to "start" working through > >>>the installation, but then I get lots of errors / warnings as follows: > >>> > >>>acdo: MODE_SENSE_BIG command timeout - resetting > >>>ata1: resetting devices... done > >>> > >>>These scroll up the screen for ages and do not appear to be going > >>>anywhere - at which point I power down the system. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>This machine was running 4.10, and in case I have a suddenly bad cdrom, > >>>>I have installed 5.1 (the only other 5.x series I have lying around), > >>>>which completes fine. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>I've not got 5.1, but I did try the 5.2.1 CD-ROM Set (from BSDMall) as > >>>well with the same failure. What I was able to do is successfully > >>>install MS Windows 2K Pro, 2K Server & Fedora Core-3 on the same > >>>hardware over the last few hours - in fact, its now running Fedora > >>>Core-3 (apparently) happily. I've attached the dmesg from the Fedora > >>>install for anyone that might be intested in what the problem might be. > >>> > >>>Regards, > >>> > >>>Stacey > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>Any ideas? > >>>> > >>>>More detailed specs on the machine: > >>>> > >>>>- Tyan Tiger 133 (S1834 Rev G) > >>>>- 2xPIII 700/100/256 , 2G RAM, Promise TX2000, 2xMaxtor Plus 8 ATA-133 > >>>>40G > >>>> > >>>>regards > >>>> > >>>>Mark > >>>>_______________________________________________ > >>>>freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > >>>>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > >>>>To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >>>>"freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>>> > >>>>_______________________________________________ > >>>>freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > >>>>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > >>>>To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >>>>"freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>I didn't have any problems with my Tiger 133, although I am running a > >>SCSI disk setup. > >> > >> > > > >I've got only SCSI disks on my system: > >2 x QUANTUM Model: ATLAS10K3_18_WLS Rev: 020W > > > >Running off of a Tekram DC-390U3W card: > >sym0:1: FAST-80 WIDE SCSI 160.0 MB/s DT (12.5 ns, offset 62) > > > >Its an SMP set up: > >2 x Intel Pentium III 866: > >Intel machine check architecture supported. > >Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#1. > >CPU1: Intel Pentium III (Coppermine) stepping 0a > >Total of 2 processors activated (3432.44 BogoMIPS). > >ENABLING IO-APIC IRQs > >..TIMER: vector=0x31 pin1=2 pin2=-1 > >checking TSC synchronization across 2 CPUs: passed. > >Brought up 2 CPUs > >zapping low mappings. > > > >Keeping in mind that the above output is from Fedora-Core3 built on the > >same machine early this morning.., > > > >Did you install from FreeBSD-5.3 REL cd's? > > > >Regards, > > > >Stacey > > > > > > > > > >>Processors 2 > >>Model Intel Pentium III > >>Chip MHz 800 MHz > >>PCI Devices agp0: VIA 82C691 (Apollo Pro) host to PCI bridge > >>pcib1: PCI-PCI bridge > >>isab0: PCI-ISA bridge > >>atapci0: VIA 82C596B UDMA66 controller > >>ahc0: Adaptec 2940 Ultra SCSI adapter > >>fxp0: Intel 82558 Pro/100 Ethernet > >>IDE Devices /none/ > >>SCSI Devices cd0: PIONEER DVD-ROM DVD-305 1.06 > >>da0: IBM DNES-318350W SA30 (Capacity: 17.93 GB) > >> > >>Chris > >> > >> > >_______________________________________________ > >freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > > > Yes, I first upgraded from 5.2, then I did a fresh install from the > 5.3-RELEASE CDs and didn't experence a problem on either method. I also > have a Tyan 230T that was talked about in this thread that didn't give > me any problems either. Now all I run on this server is a web site, so > it is base install plus Apache, PHP, etc. - no X or desktops. I > remember that there were two types of Tiger 133's one with ISA and one > without (mine is without ISA slot). I've got a Tyan 230T as well - running 4.10 Stable, which never gave me any problems.., Given the experience with 5.3 REL (granted on the 230, not 230T), I'm now reluctant to migrate the 230T to 5.3 :-( I just don't understand why (so far) only FreeBSD borks on install.., I've just had a go putting the install CD's for Red Hat ES..., and its going through the installation scripts fine! I'll let RH ES install finish (just to make sure) then I'll reinstall Fedora-Core3 for now.., Really confused here.., Regards, Stacey > Chris > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 17:05:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF9A116A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 17:05:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from duchess.speedfactory.net (duchess.speedfactory.net [66.23.201.84]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 02BA843D39 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 17:05:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ups@tree.com) Received: (qmail 18394 invoked by uid 89); 29 Nov 2004 17:05:39 -0000 Received: from duchess.speedfactory.net (66.23.201.84) by duchess.speedfactory.net with SMTP; 29 Nov 2004 17:05:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 32554 invoked by uid 89); 29 Nov 2004 16:59:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO palm.tree.com) (66.23.216.49) by duchess.speedfactory.net with SMTP; 29 Nov 2004 16:59:24 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost.tree.com [127.0.0.1]) by palm.tree.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iATGxO9k022041; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 11:59:24 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ups@tree.com) From: Stephan Uphoff To: Scott Long In-Reply-To: <41AB2901.1090102@freebsd.org> References: <41AB2901.1090102@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1101747564.11465.2867.camel@palm.tree.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 11:59:24 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: Aykut KARA Subject: Re: SMP support problem - panic: APIC: Previous IPI is stuck X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 17:05:47 -0000 On Mon, 2004-11-29 at 08:49, Scott Long wrote: > Aykut KARA wrote: > >>>We are using FreeBSD 5.3R on our quad(4) cpu server. Our problem is, > >>>which I mentioned in subject line, "panic: APIC: Previous IPI is > >>>stuck". When server gives such an error, it stops responding ... > >>> > >>>I have searched all mailing lists but I can not find a solution except > >>>disabling SMP support in kernel which can not handle the traffic. What > >>>can be done in this situation? I will be pleased for your advises... > > > > > >>You sure you searched the mailing lists? ;-) > > > > > >>Stephan Uphoff produced a patch that might fix it and posted to current@ > > > > about it 2 weeks ago: > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2004-November/043156.html > > > > > >>Jon > > > > > > Yes i have already read this but it says that: > > > > "The patch is a proof of concept and therefore not optimized". > > > > How can i try such a patch on o working remote high priority server? > > Furthermore, there is no information in the main FreeBSD site about this > > patch. I just want to learn that is there any way that guarantees to fix > > this error? > > > > AyKuT > > > > The patch represents work that is ongoing to fix the problem. You can > either help with that process by trying that patch, or wait patiently > until someone else tries the patch for you and declares it good. There > is no information on the FreeBSD website about this patch because, well, > it's a work in progress. And there are no guarantees anywhere that > any of this will work at all for you. We even specify that clearly in > our license =-) > > Scott Hi, I just posed a new patch on current. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2004-November/043697.html The last fix seems to have worked for all testers and this is the promised optimized version. I am highly confident that this will be the final solution but need feedback from testers as I can not reproduce the problem locally. Stephan From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 17:12:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CC2D16A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 17:12:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D144343D5F for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 17:12:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rob@pythonemproject.com) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (c-67-169-203-186.client.comcast.net[67.169.203.186]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with ESMTP id <2004112917122501100lbkjbe>; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 17:12:25 +0000 Message-ID: <41AB5909.8000905@pythonemproject.com> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 09:14:49 -0800 From: Rob User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <41AA785C.5020304@math.missouri.edu> In-Reply-To: <41AA785C.5020304@math.missouri.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Beastie/ how about Mozilla? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: rob@pythonemproject.com List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 17:12:29 -0000 Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > It is with a little intrepidation that I ask this question, because I > sense that what I am about to ask might push some buttons, or perhaps > bring back some unpleasant memories of those who have asked what I am > going to ask in a less tactful manner. > > I find that the beastie that appears at boot time with FreeBSD 5.3 > mildly bothers me. It is possible for me to edit boot/beastie.4th, > but this gets put back each time I do make installworld. > > Would it be possible to add a variable "show_beastie" to be put in > /boot/loader.conf, which would default to "YES", but users could add > in show_beastie="NO" if they didn't want it, but only want the menu. > > I am sure that this is a sensitive subject with you guys, because I > know that you have no intention of associating FreeBSD with satanism > or anything like that. It is not my intention to apply any kind of > label of evil to you guys, indeed I find FreeBSD to be a very fine > operating system, and I use it all the time. But the symbol which is > commonly associated with the devil does cause me some discomfort, and > for example, if I were to install some kind of server for my church, I > think that it would bother them as well. > > I know that the the symbol of the beastie is strongly associated with > FreeBSD, and that it would be grossly unfair for me to ask for it to > be removed just because of my personal discomfort. > > That is why I am proposing the solution above. I think that it would > be easy to implement by anyone who knows Forth (presuming that the > loader.conf variables are known to the beastie.4th program), and that > this would not interfere at all with those who don't mind or enjoy the > beastie, but it would also help people like me in an unobtrusive manner. > > Best, Stephen > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Hi, just had to comment on a related matter to this. I was talking to my doctor who is a rabbid christian. The subject came to browsers and I said "Why don't you try Mozilla?" His reply was "...I am a Christian..." Was the first time I have known of anyone being offended by a dragon ion. LOL. I forgot to tell him that he could change it to something he liked better. But it gives me shivers of joy just knowing how offensive free Unix is. Rob . From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 17:17:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C463016A4CE; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 17:17:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 618D843D5E; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 17:17:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rob@pythonemproject.com) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (c-67-169-203-186.client.comcast.net[67.169.203.186]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with ESMTP id <2004112917173501200ildtoe>; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 17:17:35 +0000 Message-ID: <41AB5A3F.8070200@pythonemproject.com> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 09:19:59 -0800 From: Rob User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1101673603.1100.68.camel@chaucer> <41AA857B.2000206@daleco.biz> In-Reply-To: <41AA857B.2000206@daleco.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SATA disk experience/ SATA DVD+RW X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: rob@pythonemproject.com List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 17:17:36 -0000 Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. wrote: > Mike Jeays wrote: > >> I have just borrowed a brand new Pentium 4 3.6 GHz machine from the >> office, intending to use it as an open source demonstration machine. >> >> To my surprise, it has no IDE disk, only a SATA drive, which I have not >> used before personally. >> >> Fedora Core 1 and Suse Enterprise Server completely failed to install, >> complaining about "no disk drive". >> >> FreeBSD 5.3 installed perfectly, and runs like the wind! Hats off again >> to the FreeBSD team. >> >> >> > > Woo Hoo! And I second that; FBSD's a great thing, even if > the mascot looks evil sometimes... > > Wonder if you should have cross-posted this to advocacy@? > Not too late to forward it, if you want to .... > > Kevin Kinsey > DaleCo, S.P. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Hi Kevin and all, I just bought a beautiful Plextor SATA DVD+RW, etc, etc. Am I screwed, or is this going to work? I didn't see anything in the dmesg related to this. But it is on my AMD64 machine with 5.3-RELEASE. Generic kernel modified for IPFilter and audio, thats all. Even XP-64 beta won't recognize this thing. Rob. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 17:19:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83E3E16A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 17:19:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2151843D5C for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 17:19:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rob@pythonemproject.com) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (c-67-169-203-186.client.comcast.net[67.169.203.186]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with ESMTP id <2004112917194401100l4ti5e>; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 17:19:45 +0000 Message-ID: <41AB5AC0.6020905@pythonemproject.com> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 09:22:08 -0800 From: Rob User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Igor References: <41A8F67F.8040104@comcast.net> <41AB3C2C.6010109@speechpro.com> In-Reply-To: <41AB3C2C.6010109@speechpro.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Live CD with most # network debug programs X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: rob@pythonemproject.com List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 17:19:46 -0000 Igor wrote: > Rob wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Is there any particular live filesystem iso which has more network >> debugging routines than the others? > > > What is *Frenzy*? *Frenzy* is a "portable system administrator > toolkit," LiveCD based on FreeBSD. > Frenzy 0.3 is based on FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE > > > ftp://ftp.opennet.ru/pub/mini-cd/Frenzy-BSD/ > Thank you!!! Rob. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 17:24:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCBFD16A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 17:24:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from athena.softcardsystems.com (mail.softcardsystems.com [12.34.136.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BC8E43D2D for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 17:24:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sah@softcardsystems.com) Received: from athena (athena [12.34.136.114])iATIKaZE004886; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:20:36 -0500 Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:20:36 -0500 (EST) From: Sam X-X-Sender: sah@athena To: Rob In-Reply-To: <41AB5909.8000905@pythonemproject.com> Message-ID: References: <41AA785C.5020304@math.missouri.edu> <41AB5909.8000905@pythonemproject.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Beastie/ how about Mozilla? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 17:24:59 -0000 > Hi, just had to comment on a related matter to this. I was talking to my > doctor who is a rabbid christian. The subject came to browsers and I said > "Why don't you try Mozilla?" His reply was "...I am a Christian..." Was > the first time I have known of anyone being offended by a dragon ion. LOL. > I forgot to tell him that he could change it to something he liked better. > But it gives me shivers of joy just knowing how offensive free Unix is. > And here I thought it was just a T-Rex dinosaur. 'Buncha sinners. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 17:30:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B97AF16A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 17:30:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from tinker.exit.com (tinker.exit.com [206.223.0.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70C8D43D5A for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 17:30:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from frank@exit.com) Received: from realtime.exit.com (realtime [206.223.0.5]) by tinker.exit.com (8.13.1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id iATHU8l6011270; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 09:30:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from frank@exit.com) Received: from realtime.exit.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by realtime.exit.com (8.13.1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id iATHU8Qx052065; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 09:30:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from frank@realtime.exit.com) Received: (from frank@localhost) by realtime.exit.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id iATHU8Fn052064; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 09:30:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from frank) From: Frank Mayhar Message-Id: <200411291730.iATHU8Fn052064@realtime.exit.com> In-Reply-To: <41AB5909.8000905@pythonemproject.com> To: rob@pythonemproject.com Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 09:30:08 -0800 (PST) X-Copyright0: Copyright 2004 Frank Mayhar. All Rights Reserved. X-Copyright1: Permission granted for electronic reproduction as Usenet News or email only. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL119 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Beastie/ how about Mozilla? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: frank@exit.com List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 17:30:11 -0000 Rob wrote: > Hi, just had to comment on a related matter to this. I was talking to > my doctor who is a rabbid christian. The subject came to browsers and I > said "Why don't you try Mozilla?" His reply was "...I am a > Christian..." Was the first time I have known of anyone being > offended by a dragon ion. LOL. > I forgot to tell him that he could change it to something he liked > better. But it gives me shivers of joy just knowing how offensive free > Unix is. Like I said last night, if these idiots want to believe that "satan" lives in their computer, let them. I, for one, am past caring, and life is far too short to try to educate the uneducable. -- Frank Mayhar frank@exit.com http://www.exit.com/ Exit Consulting http://www.gpsclock.com/ http://www.exit.com/blog/frank/ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 17:32:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD52E16A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 17:32:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta-a.kjsl.com (mta-a.kjsl.com [69.36.240.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D3C143D54 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 17:32:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from javier@kjsl.com) Received: by mta-a.kjsl.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7EA3D5197E; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 09:32:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 09:32:45 -0800 From: Javier Henderson To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041129173245.GL75241@mta-a.kjsl.com> References: <41AB5909.8000905@pythonemproject.com> <200411291730.iATHU8Fn052064@realtime.exit.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200411291730.iATHU8Fn052064@realtime.exit.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Beastie/ how about Mozilla? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 17:32:45 -0000 Speaking of beasties and such, how do you propose to deal with 'daemons'? You can't run FreeBSD without them! -jav From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 17:36:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2111916A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 17:36:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bache.ece.cmu.edu (BACHE.ECE.CMU.EDU [128.2.129.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9A7443D54 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 17:36:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from allbery@ece.cmu.edu) Received: from [128.2.136.40] (PYANFAR.ECE.CMU.EDU [128.2.136.40]) by bache.ece.cmu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A29D97A for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:36:09 -0500 (EST) From: "Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200411291730.iATHU8Fn052064@realtime.exit.com> References: <200411291730.iATHU8Fn052064@realtime.exit.com> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1101749769.1606.2.camel@pyanfar.ece.cmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:36:09 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Beastie/ how about Mozilla? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 17:36:11 -0000 On Mon, 2004-11-29 at 12:30, Frank Mayhar quoted someone as saying: > > said "Why don't you try Mozilla?" His reply was "...I am a > > Christian..." Was the first time I have known of anyone being > > offended by a dragon ion. LOL. *oy* Just tell him it's a seraph.... -- brandon s. allbery [linux,solaris,freebsd,perl] allbery@kf8nh.com system administrator [WAY too many hats] allbery@ece.cmu.edu electrical and computer engineering, carnegie mellon univ. KF8NH From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 18:06:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48E9716A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 18:06:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp002.bizmail.yahoo.com (smtp002.bizmail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.126]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0759E43D2D for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 18:06:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from noackjr@alumni.rice.edu) Received: from unknown (HELO optimator.noacks.org) (noackjr@supercrime.org@70.240.198.174 with login) by smtp002.bizmail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Nov 2004 18:06:19 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimator.noacks.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C81AC623B; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:06:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from optimator.noacks.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (optimator.noacks.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 79909-04; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:06:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from www.noacks.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimator.noacks.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10E046213; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:06:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from 69.53.57.66 (SquirrelMail authenticated user noackjr); by www.noacks.org with HTTP; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:06:16 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <42539.69.53.57.66.1101751576.squirrel@69.53.57.66> In-Reply-To: <200411291730.iATHU8Fn052064@realtime.exit.com> References: <41AB5909.8000905@pythonemproject.com> <200411291730.iATHU8Fn052064@realtime.exit.com> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:06:16 -0600 (CST) From: "Jon Noack" To: frank@exit.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at noacks.org cc: rob@pythonemproject.com cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Beastie/ how about Mozilla? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: noackjr@alumni.rice.edu List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 18:06:20 -0000 Frank Mayhar wrote: > Rob wrote: >> Hi, just had to comment on a related matter to this. I was talking to >> my doctor who is a rabbid christian. The subject came to browsers and I >> said "Why don't you try Mozilla?" His reply was "...I am a >> Christian..." Was the first time I have known of anyone being >> offended by a dragon ion. LOL. >> I forgot to tell him that he could change it to something he liked >> better. But it gives me shivers of joy just knowing how offensive free >> Unix is. > > Like I said last night, if these idiots want to believe that "satan" lives > in their computer, let them. I, for one, am past caring, and life is far > too short to try to educate the uneducable. Can we please stay on-topic? Stephan's email seems to have sparked a lot of Christian-bashing, and I can't see how that is on-topic. Sure, he probably deserved to be flamed for not finding the "beastie_disable" knob, but I am offended by some of the emails I've seen. Since when is it acceptable to ridicule a person's religious beliefs on stable@? Jon P.S. The "Rules of the road": http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 18:19:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53F4916A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 18:19:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from tinker.exit.com (tinker.exit.com [206.223.0.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED54743D1D for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 18:19:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from frank@exit.com) Received: from realtime.exit.com (realtime [206.223.0.5]) by tinker.exit.com (8.13.1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id iATIJlq2011602; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:19:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from frank@exit.com) Received: from realtime.exit.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by realtime.exit.com (8.13.1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id iATIJlVO027125; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:19:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from frank@realtime.exit.com) Received: (from frank@localhost) by realtime.exit.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id iATIJkf5027124; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:19:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from frank) From: Frank Mayhar Message-Id: <200411291819.iATIJkf5027124@realtime.exit.com> In-Reply-To: <42539.69.53.57.66.1101751576.squirrel@69.53.57.66> To: noackjr@alumni.rice.edu Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:19:46 -0800 (PST) X-Copyright0: Copyright 2004 Frank Mayhar. All Rights Reserved. X-Copyright1: Permission granted for electronic reproduction as Usenet News or email only. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL119 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Beastie/ how about Mozilla? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: frank@exit.com List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 18:19:55 -0000 Jon Noack wrote: > Can we please stay on-topic? Stephan's email seems to have sparked a lot > of Christian-bashing, and I can't see how that is on-topic. Sure, he > probably deserved to be flamed for not finding the "beastie_disable" knob, > but I am offended by some of the emails I've seen. Since when is it > acceptable to ridicule a person's religious beliefs on stable@? When their religious beliefs start affecting my life, I'm not going to remain silent about it. You can call that "ridiculing" or "Christian-bashing" if you want, but as far as I'm concerned it's impossible to ridicule someone who is shaken by a _picture_ of _cartoon_(!) on their computer. I would have been happy to remain silent on this, but it led to Scott's commit that removed the beastie menu and that was going too far. In that sense, yes, it is indeed relevant for stable. -- Frank Mayhar frank@exit.com http://www.exit.com/ Exit Consulting http://www.gpsclock.com/ http://www.exit.com/blog/frank/ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 18:39:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10E3D16A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 18:39:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF33243D2F for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 18:39:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dantavious@comcast.net) Received: from focus.dantavious.com (pcp04630633pcs.gambrl01.md.comcast.net[68.49.58.89]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with ESMTP id <2004112918393401300l8i1te>; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 18:39:34 +0000 From: Derrick Edwards To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:53:10 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.1 References: <200411290100.43354.dantavious@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <200411290100.43354.dantavious@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200411291353.10528.dantavious@comcast.net> Subject: Re: Sounblaster Live Card X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 18:39:35 -0000 Is there a manual way to bind a snd driver to my soundcard. Or is this card not supported? v/r Dantavious On Monday 29 November 2004 01:00 am, Derrick Edwards wrote: > I went out and bought a Sound Blaster Live sound card. I have searched and > tried various things such as: > > 1. Loading all the sound drivers with kldload snd_driver > Once they are loaded > %cat /dev/sndstat > FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) > Installed devices: > > 2. I know that FreeBSD sees the PCI card. > none2@pci2:1:0: class=0x040100 card=0x10061102 chip=0x00071102 rev=0x00 > hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Creative Labs' > device = 'CA0106-DAT Audigy LS' > class = multimedia > subclass = audio > > Am I missing something? > Thanks in advance? > Dantavious > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 18:44:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3902316A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 18:44:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [130.64.1.215]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCEBB43D62 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 18:44:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 1CYqVf-0007Gw-5E for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:44:27 -0500 Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:44:27 -0500 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041129184427.GE24413@pir.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <200411290100.43354.dantavious@comcast.net> <200411291353.10528.dantavious@comcast.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200411291353.10528.dantavious@comcast.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Subject: Re: Sounblaster Live Card X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 18:44:28 -0000 Derrick Edwards probably said: > Is there a manual way to bind a snd driver to my soundcard. Or is this card > not supported? Looks like you've got an Audigy, not an SBLive. The SBLive is supported (I use them in several places) and they show up like this; pcm0@pci2:5:0: class=0x040100 card=0x80311102 chip=0x00021102 rev=0x07 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Creative Labs' device = 'EMU10000 Sound Blaster Live! (Also Live! 5.1) - OEM from DELL - CT4780' class = multimedia subclass = audio I'm assuming you don't have a supported card. P. > On Monday 29 November 2004 01:00 am, Derrick Edwards wrote: > > I went out and bought a Sound Blaster Live sound card. I have > > searched and tried various things such as: > > none2@pci2:1:0: class=0x040100 card=0x10061102 chip=0x00071102 rev=0x00 > > hdr=0x00 > > vendor = 'Creative Labs' > > device = 'CA0106-DAT Audigy LS' > > class = multimedia > > subclass = audio -- pir From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 18:49:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 014B016A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 18:49:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9645443D49 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 18:49:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scottl@freebsd.org) Received: from [192.168.254.11] (junior-wifi.samsco.home [192.168.254.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iATIqoC6002459; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 11:52:50 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from scottl@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <41AB6F4F.4050908@freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 11:49:51 -0700 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040929 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: frank@exit.com References: <200411291819.iATIJkf5027124@realtime.exit.com> In-Reply-To: <200411291819.iATIJkf5027124@realtime.exit.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=3.8 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on pooker.samsco.org cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Beastie/ how about Mozilla? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 18:49:26 -0000 Frank Mayhar wrote: > Jon Noack wrote: > >>Can we please stay on-topic? Stephan's email seems to have sparked a lot >>of Christian-bashing, and I can't see how that is on-topic. Sure, he >>probably deserved to be flamed for not finding the "beastie_disable" knob, >>but I am offended by some of the emails I've seen. Since when is it >>acceptable to ridicule a person's religious beliefs on stable@? > > > When their religious beliefs start affecting my life, I'm not going to remain > silent about it. You can call that "ridiculing" or "Christian-bashing" if > you want, but as far as I'm concerned it's impossible to ridicule someone who > is shaken by a _picture_ of _cartoon_(!) on their computer. > > I would have been happy to remain silent on this, but it led to Scott's > commit that removed the beastie menu and that was going too far. In that > sense, yes, it is indeed relevant for stable. Please drop the religious argument. My decision was based on months of experience, not a single email. I'm most concerned that we are allowing ourselves to be so distracted by it. If you don't like it, don't use it. If you like it, use it. If you don't like those that don't like it, please keep it to yourself. Scott From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 18:52:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43D7C16A520 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 18:52:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail19.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail19.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94FA643D45 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 18:52:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from PeterJeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from cirb503493.alcatel.com.au (c211-30-75-229.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au [211.30.75.229]) iATIq6Sn021031 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 30 Nov 2004 05:52:07 +1100 Received: from cirb503493.alcatel.com.au (localhost.alcatel.com.au [127.0.0.1])iATIq6xP061254; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 05:52:06 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from pjeremy@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au) Received: (from pjeremy@localhost)iATIq6Wh061253; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 05:52:06 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from pjeremy) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 05:52:05 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy To: Chuck Swiger Message-ID: <20041129185205.GG804@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au> References: <41A60264.30109@fer.hr> <41AA6F6E.1080809@mac.com> <20041129004546.GA1541@k7.mavetju> <41AAF2BE.7030800@fer.hr> <41AB4643.90807@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41AB4643.90807@mac.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i cc: Edwin Groothuis cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: Ivan Voras Subject: Re: Huge slapd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 18:52:14 -0000 On Mon, 2004-Nov-29 10:54:43 -0500, Chuck Swiger wrote: >5-base# leaks 78 >Process 78: 284 nodes malloced for 38 KB >Process 78: 232 leaks for 5568 total leaked bytes. >Leak: 0x001018f0 size=32 > 0x00000000 0x00000002 0x00000002 0x00000011 > 0x00000010 0x00000000 0x001018b0 0x00000000 >Leak: 0x001018c0 size=32 > 0x00000000 0x00000002 0x00000002 0x00000011 > 0x00000010 0x00000000 0x00101880 0x00000000 >[ ... ] > >Is there anything like this available for FreeBSD? You could try MALLOC_OPTIONS=U, 'ktrace -t u' and post-processing the resultant utrace records. -- Peter Jeremy From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 18:53:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9082216A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 18:53:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6248043D6E for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 18:53:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dantavious@comcast.net) Received: from focus.dantavious.com (pcp04630633pcs.gambrl01.md.comcast.net[68.49.58.89]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with ESMTP id <2004112918533901400rla8le>; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 18:53:39 +0000 From: Derrick Edwards To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 14:07:15 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.1 References: <200411290100.43354.dantavious@comcast.net> <200411291353.10528.dantavious@comcast.net> <20041129184427.GE24413@pir.net> In-Reply-To: <20041129184427.GE24413@pir.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200411291407.15769.dantavious@comcast.net> Subject: Re: Sounblaster Live Card X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 18:53:40 -0000 That sucks because it says on the box "Creative Sound Blaster Live! 24-bit". Is there a better way of picking one? Thanks for your assistance Dantavious On Monday 29 November 2004 01:44 pm, Peter Radcliffe wrote: > Derrick Edwards probably said: > > Is there a manual way to bind a snd driver to my soundcard. Or is this > > card not supported? > > Looks like you've got an Audigy, not an SBLive. > > The SBLive is supported (I use them in several places) and they show > up like this; > > pcm0@pci2:5:0: class=0x040100 card=0x80311102 chip=0x00021102 > rev=0x07 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Creative Labs' > device = 'EMU10000 Sound Blaster Live! (Also Live! 5.1) > - OEM from DELL - CT4780' > class = multimedia > subclass = audio > > I'm assuming you don't have a supported card. > > P. > > > On Monday 29 November 2004 01:00 am, Derrick Edwards wrote: > > > I went out and bought a Sound Blaster Live sound card. I have > > > searched and tried various things such as: > > > > > > none2@pci2:1:0: class=0x040100 card=0x10061102 chip=0x00071102 rev=0x00 > > > hdr=0x00 > > > vendor = 'Creative Labs' > > > device = 'CA0106-DAT Audigy LS' > > > class = multimedia > > > subclass = audio From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 19:02:17 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AB7316A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 19:02:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ran.psg.com (ip192.186.dsl-acs2.seawa0.iinet.com [209.20.186.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E77843D4C for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 19:02:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from randy@psg.com) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=ran.psg.com.psg.com) by ran.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.43 (FreeBSD)) id 1CYqmu-000EsK-N8; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 11:02:16 -0800 From: Randy Bush MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16811.29240.206075.329023@ran.psg.com> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 11:02:16 -0800 To: frank@exit.com References: <42539.69.53.57.66.1101751576.squirrel@69.53.57.66> <200411291819.iATIJkf5027124@realtime.exit.com> cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Beastie/ how about Mozilla? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 19:02:17 -0000 the cheering point is that the fools then run internet exploder. then darwin, who i suspect they also fear, gets his revenge! but i have an actual technical question. i like the beastie. and i have her enabled. but how do i get her in color? randy From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 19:04:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 493EF16A4CE; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 19:04:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from msg-mx2.usc.edu (msg-mx2.usc.edu [128.125.137.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 318DD43D2D; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 19:04:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kokje@ISI.EDU) Received: from [128.9.160.145] by msg-mx2.usc.edu (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.05 (built Oct 21 2004)) with ESMTPA id <0I7Y00HE5FMYGLC0@msg-mx2.usc.edu>; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 11:04:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 11:04:10 -0800 From: Tejas Kokje Sender: kokje@usc.edu To: dirk@FreeBSD.org Message-id: <41AB72AA.7010703@ISI.EDU> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (X11/20040913) cc: yuhe@ISI.EDU cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: port problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 19:04:11 -0000 Hi, While installing expat2 port,I got the following error. I am running FreeBSD 4.10-RELEASE-p2. #make install clean ===> Patching for expat-1.95.8 ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for expat-1.95.8 Ignoring previously applied (or reversed) patch. 1 out of 1 hunks ignored--saving rejects to configure.rej >> Patch patch-configure failed to apply cleanly. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/expat2. I am not sure what this error means. Any comments will be appreciated. Tejas Kokje University of Southern California Information Sciences Institute From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 19:04:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B601316A4F6 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 19:04:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp003.bizmail.yahoo.com (smtp003.bizmail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 77EBA43D5D for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 19:04:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from noackjr@alumni.rice.edu) Received: from unknown (HELO optimator.noacks.org) (noackjr@supercrime.org@70.240.198.174 with login) by smtp003.bizmail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Nov 2004 19:04:25 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimator.noacks.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 407E662B7; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:04:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from optimator.noacks.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (optimator.noacks.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 82234-02-2; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:04:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from www.noacks.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimator.noacks.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D41976281; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:04:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from 69.53.57.66 (SquirrelMail authenticated user noackjr); by www.noacks.org with HTTP; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:04:22 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <49449.69.53.57.66.1101755062.squirrel@69.53.57.66> In-Reply-To: <16811.29240.206075.329023@ran.psg.com> References: <42539.69.53.57.66.1101751576.squirrel@69.53.57.66> <200411291819.iATIJkf5027124@realtime.exit.com> <16811.29240.206075.329023@ran.psg.com> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:04:22 -0600 (CST) From: "Jon Noack" To: "Randy Bush" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at noacks.org cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Beastie/ how about Mozilla? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: noackjr@alumni.rice.edu List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 19:04:25 -0000 Randy Bush wrote: > the cheering point is that the fools then run internet exploder. > then darwin, who i suspect they also fear, gets his revenge! > > but i have an actual technical question. i like the beastie. > and i have her enabled. but how do i get her in color? Throw 'loader_color="YES"' into /boot/loader.conf... Jon From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 20:07:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E72B316A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 20:07:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from linda-1.paradise.net.nz (bm-1a.paradise.net.nz [202.0.58.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D2CC43D5C for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 20:07:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from markir@paradise.net.nz) Received: from smtp-2.paradise.net.nz (smtp-2b.paradise.net.nz [202.0.32.211]) by linda-1.paradise.net.nz (Paradise.net.nz) with ESMTP id <0I7Y0007LIJR9Z@linda-1.paradise.net.nz> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 09:07:05 +1300 (NZDT) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (218-101-13-181.paradise.net.nz [218.101.13.181]) by smtp-2.paradise.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E4AB9EC98; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 09:06:37 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 09:10:02 +1300 From: Mark Kirkwood In-reply-to: <41AB4E3A.5040604@cbrworld.com> To: Chris Wall , stacey@vickiandstacey.com Message-id: <41AB821A.6060305@paradise.net.nz> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 References: <41AACD27.6030506@paradise.net.nz> <41AB44E9.80904@cbrworld.com> <20041129161318.GR12622@crom.vickiandstacey.com> <41AB4E3A.5040604@cbrworld.com> cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot install 5.3 on tyan tiger 133 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 20:07:07 -0000 Chris Wall wrote: > Yes, I first upgraded from 5.2, then I did a fresh install from the > 5.3-RELEASE CDs and didn't experence a problem on either method. I > also have a Tyan 230T that was talked about in this thread that didn't > give me any problems either. Now all I run on this server is a web > site, so it is base install plus Apache, PHP, etc. - no X or > desktops. I remember that there were two types of Tiger 133's one > with ISA and one without (mine is without ISA slot). > Chris My 133 is the same (S1834D - printing on the board for an ISA but no actual slot). What revision is your board? After reading of your experiences, the following scenarios suggest themselves: - Booting from cd with the Promise TX2000 Raid card removed - Booting from cd with 1 cpu removed (with or without the TX2000) - (Assuming some of the above work) Moving the TX2000 to a different PCI slot and booting I will let you know how I get on. In the meantime, here is a dmesg output from when 4.10 was installed: http://www.bnv-bamberg.de/home/ba3294/smp/files/dmesg/d000233.txt and output from mptable : http://www.bnv-bamberg.de/home/ba3294/smp/files/mptable/m000233.txt (Thanks to Gregor Bittel for maintaining such an handy list!) regards Mark From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 20:46:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7009916A4CE; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 20:46:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45CAF43D31; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 20:46:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 52A6D512AF; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:51:43 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:51:43 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Tejas Kokje Message-ID: <20041129205143.GA24495@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <41AB72AA.7010703@ISI.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="4Ckj6UjgE2iN1+kY" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41AB72AA.7010703@ISI.EDU> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org cc: yuhe@ISI.EDU cc: dirk@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: port problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 20:46:40 -0000 --4Ckj6UjgE2iN1+kY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Nov 29, 2004 at 11:04:10AM -0800, Tejas Kokje wrote: > Hi, >=20 > While installing expat2 port,I got the following error. I am running=20 > FreeBSD 4.10-RELEASE-p2. >=20 >=20 > #make install clean > =3D=3D=3D> Patching for expat-1.95.8 > =3D=3D=3D> Applying FreeBSD patches for expat-1.95.8 > Ignoring previously applied (or reversed) patch. > 1 out of 1 hunks ignored--saving rejects to configure.rej > >> Patch patch-configure failed to apply cleanly. > *** Error code 1 >=20 > Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/expat2. >=20 >=20 > I am not sure what this error means. Any comments will be appreciated. You probably have stale patches in your ports tree. See the cvsup faq on www.polstra.com for how and why. Kris --4Ckj6UjgE2iN1+kY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBq4vfWry0BWjoQKURAvyrAKCGcaGHjFWjUuENqAjnWAUDU2WRogCgkctm AnHJ3fgGsLOwfvBwMWxp81U= =GOvZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --4Ckj6UjgE2iN1+kY-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 20:54:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA77E16A4E8 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 20:54:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51A8543D31 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 20:54:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scottl@freebsd.org) Received: from [192.168.254.11] (junior-wifi.samsco.home [192.168.254.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iATKwBfT003158; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:58:12 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from scottl@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <41AB8CB0.3070709@freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:55:12 -0700 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040929 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Randy Bush References: <42539.69.53.57.66.1101751576.squirrel@69.53.57.66> <200411291819.iATIJkf5027124@realtime.exit.com> <16811.29240.206075.329023@ran.psg.com> In-Reply-To: <16811.29240.206075.329023@ran.psg.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=3.8 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on pooker.samsco.org cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Beastie/ how about Mozilla? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 20:54:47 -0000 Randy Bush wrote: > the cheering point is that the fools then run internet exploder. > then darwin, who i suspect they also fear, gets his revenge! > > but i have an actual technical question. i like the beastie. > and i have her enabled. but how do i get her in color? > > randy > loader_color="YES" >> /boot/loader.conf Scott From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 21:07:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFE4216A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 21:07:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6F71643D31 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 21:07:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 22592 invoked by uid 65534); 29 Nov 2004 21:07:50 -0000 Received: from pD95D8432.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO lofi.dyndns.org) (217.93.132.50) by mail.gmx.net (mp004) with SMTP; 29 Nov 2004 22:07:50 +0100 X-Authenticated: #443188 Received: from [192.168.8.4] (lofi@kiste.my.domain [192.168.8.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by lofi.dyndns.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iATL7g54025766 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 29 Nov 2004 22:07:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) Message-ID: <41AB8F9D.8070100@gmx.net> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 22:07:41 +0100 From: Michael Nottebrock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, de-de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paulo References: <51611.192.168.0.200.1101398532.squirrel@192.168.0.200> <87zn15zoqo.fsf@basilikum.skogtun.org> <41A63A78.2030506@mukappabeta.de> <41A9CC27.3030408@saunalahti.fi> <41AA70E3.2000108@mukappabeta.de> <41AB1977.3090101@npf.pt.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <41AB1977.3090101@npf.pt.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new cc: Matthias Buelow cc: Pertti Kosunen cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: the best graphicscard for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 21:07:53 -0000 Paulo wrote: > You are forgetting that there are many people that really need fast 3D > graphics. In the place I work there are people working on computer > animation, 3D models visualization on linux, solaris and freebsd. I wonder what kind of applications they would use on FreeBSD for such tasks. Custom developed? And if so, why on FreeBSD, which really isn't a logical choice for a 3D graphics workstation platform? -- ,_, | Michael Nottebrock | lofi@freebsd.org (/^ ^\) | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve | http://www.freebsd.org \u/ | K Desktop Environment on FreeBSD | http://freebsd.kde.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 21:09:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 042BF16A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 21:09:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E13C743D54 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 21:09:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 8633 invoked by uid 65534); 29 Nov 2004 21:09:34 -0000 Received: from pD95D8432.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO lofi.dyndns.org) (217.93.132.50) by mail.gmx.net (mp027) with SMTP; 29 Nov 2004 22:09:34 +0100 X-Authenticated: #443188 Received: from [192.168.8.4] (kiste.my.domain [192.168.8.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by lofi.dyndns.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iATL9R54025777 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 22:09:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) Message-ID: <41AB9006.2040303@gmx.net> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 22:09:26 +0100 From: Michael Nottebrock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, de-de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org References: <41AA785C.5020304@math.missouri.edu> <20041129084934.GA800@gicco.homeip.net> <41AAEBD9.9010705@gmx.net> <20041129095954.GA1282@gicco.homeip.net> In-Reply-To: <20041129095954.GA1282@gicco.homeip.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Subject: Re: Beastie X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 21:09:37 -0000 Hanspeter Roth wrote: >>I would much prefer seeing this patch getting committed after instead of >>completely disabling the bootmenu as recently committed. > > > The problem here is, that the Beastie picture is disabled by > default. This is obviously not compatible with the majority of > people. You're not up-to-date with the latest events, the beasty menu was completely nuked from CVS yesterday after the most recent complaints and we're now stuck again with the plain old loader prompt. -- ,_, | Michael Nottebrock | lofi@freebsd.org (/^ ^\) | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve | http://www.freebsd.org \u/ | K Desktop Environment on FreeBSD | http://freebsd.kde.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 21:12:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8D5C16A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 21:12:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A0DEC43D5C for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 21:12:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 1533 invoked by uid 65534); 29 Nov 2004 21:12:22 -0000 Received: from pD95D8432.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO lofi.dyndns.org) (217.93.132.50) by mail.gmx.net (mp024) with SMTP; 29 Nov 2004 22:12:22 +0100 X-Authenticated: #443188 Received: from [192.168.8.4] (kiste.my.domain [192.168.8.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by lofi.dyndns.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iATLCJ54025826 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 29 Nov 2004 22:12:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) Message-ID: <41AB90B2.7000405@gmx.net> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 22:12:18 +0100 From: Michael Nottebrock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, de-de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Derrick Edwards References: <200411290100.43354.dantavious@comcast.net> <200411291353.10528.dantavious@comcast.net> <20041129184427.GE24413@pir.net> <200411291407.15769.dantavious@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <200411291407.15769.dantavious@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sounblaster Live Card X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 21:12:25 -0000 Derrick Edwards wrote: > That sucks because it says on the box "Creative Sound Blaster Live! 24-bit". > Is there a better way of picking one? The sblive driver oly supports rather early models of SB Live and SB Audigy cards. Since Creative keeps revising their hardware rather rapidly, it might not be easy finding hardware that works with the available drivers. Usually Creative uses the older revisions of their chips in the budget-products, so I'd start looking there. -- ,_, | Michael Nottebrock | lofi@freebsd.org (/^ ^\) | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve | http://www.freebsd.org \u/ | K Desktop Environment on FreeBSD | http://freebsd.kde.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 21:22:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D178D16A4D6 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 21:22:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C7B1C43D1D for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 21:22:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 22048 invoked by uid 65534); 29 Nov 2004 21:22:19 -0000 Received: from pD95D8432.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO lofi.dyndns.org) (217.93.132.50) by mail.gmx.net (mp008) with SMTP; 29 Nov 2004 22:22:19 +0100 X-Authenticated: #443188 Received: from [192.168.8.4] (kiste.my.domain [192.168.8.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by lofi.dyndns.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iATLMB54026015 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 29 Nov 2004 22:22:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) Message-ID: <41AB9302.9050803@gmx.net> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 22:22:10 +0100 From: Michael Nottebrock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, de-de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Scott Long References: <200411291819.iATIJkf5027124@realtime.exit.com> <41AB6F4F.4050908@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <41AB6F4F.4050908@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Beastie/ how about Mozilla? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 21:22:22 -0000 Scott Long wrote: > Frank Mayhar wrote: > >> Jon Noack wrote: > [Beasty-Bikeshed] I'll just cut right to end of the bikeshed: _Screw_ the mascot. In fact, screw all the mascots (plural). This is a free software project. FreeBSD can do with ANY logo and ANY mascot, and it could just as well do WITHOUT any logo and any mascot. Beasty is utterly irrelevant. So is Tux, or the OpenDarwin mascot or the OpenBSD Blowfish or the NetBSD Beastypile^W Flag. The complaints of people being offended or annoyed by whatever mascot and logo we have are also utterly irrelevant. It's all open-source, you can easily patch out anything you don't like. However, things start to become ugly when utterly irrelevant complaints about utterly irrelevant logos make committers disable USEFUL functionality, like the boot-menu. We NEED the boot-menu, we don't need any kind of logo in it. So please, Scott, put back the menu and just delete the ascii art or at least confirm that the menu is going to reappear in some way or the other. -- ,_, | Michael Nottebrock | lofi@freebsd.org (/^ ^\) | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve | http://www.freebsd.org \u/ | K Desktop Environment on FreeBSD | http://freebsd.kde.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 21:31:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 219DF16A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 21:31:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from the-macgregors.org (82-33-59-105.cable.ubr06.stav.blueyonder.co.uk [82.33.59.105]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C7DC43D2D for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 21:31:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd.macgregor@blueyonder.co.uk) X-Urban-Legend: Mail headers contain urban legends Received: from fire (rob@fire.macgregor [192.168.32.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by the-macgregors.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iATLVrfT017388 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 21:31:53 GMT Message-Id: <200411292131.iATLVrfT017388@the-macgregors.org> From: "Rob MacGregor" To: Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 21:31:53 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <41AB9302.9050803@gmx.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcTWWfCVAWaTuQ+yTia/iCdtWJ4GsgAAFIqA X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Subject: RE: Beastie/ how about Mozilla? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 21:31:56 -0000 On Monday, November 29, 2004 9:22 PM, Michael Nottebrock <> unleashed the infinite monkeys and produced: > However, things start to become ugly when utterly irrelevant complaints > about > utterly irrelevant logos make committers disable USEFUL functionality, like > the boot-menu. We NEED the boot-menu, we don't need any kind of logo in it. > So > please, Scott, put back the menu and just delete the ascii art or at least > confirm that the menu is going to reappear in some way or the other. [AOL] Me too [/AOL] Seriously, the boot menu is rather useful - saves from having to remember how to get into "safe mode" when you've just hosed your system. Also makes disabling/enabling ACPI trivial. The logo is a "nice to have" IMO, purely because it's an eye catcher - I've had chats with people about FreeBSD after they see the logo, and ask what it is. A few even seemed interested enough to try out FreeBSD. I'd rather like the option of switching the logo on, but default to it off for those who find it offensive. I'll be honest and say that I don't understand people finding ASCII art such as the Beastie offensive, but everybody is entitled to their own opinion (yeah, even me :>). -- Rob | Oh my God! They killed init! You bastards! From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 22:11:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 766B816A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 22:11:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1392643D4C for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 22:11:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mark@markdnet.demon.co.uk) Received: from markdnet.demon.co.uk ([80.177.29.129] helo=[192.168.20.3]) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1CYtjX-000OGU-9T for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 22:11:00 +0000 From: Mark Dixon To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org User-Agent: KMail/1.7.1 References: <41AA785C.5020304@math.missouri.edu> <41AB5909.8000905@pythonemproject.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410292210.49995.mark@markdnet.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: Beastie/ how about Mozilla? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 22:11:01 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:10:49 +0100 X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 22:11:01 -0000 On Monday 29 Nov 2004 18:20, Sam wrote: > > And here I thought it was just a T-Rex dinosaur. 'Buncha sinners. Dinosaurs are offensive too you know. God created man, woman, and animals and all that. No mention of dinosaurs. Must be the devils work. Fscking christians.... -- Mark 'If it compiles, ship it' From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 22:20:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0D6B16A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 22:20:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail4.speakeasy.net (mail4.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEE5143D58 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 22:20:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from omniBSD@speakeasy.net) Received: (qmail 19790 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2004 22:20:31 -0000 Received: from acute.anhedonia.com (HELO [10.20.30.10]) (omni@[66.93.24.213]) (envelope-sender ) by mail4.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 29 Nov 2004 22:20:31 -0000 Message-ID: <41ABA0D2.5080209@speakeasy.net> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 16:21:06 -0600 From: Ash User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041104 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Nottebrock References: <200411290100.43354.dantavious@comcast.net> <200411291353.10528.dantavious@comcast.net> <20041129184427.GE24413@pir.net> <200411291407.15769.dantavious@comcast.net> <41AB90B2.7000405@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <41AB90B2.7000405@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org cc: Derrick Edwards Subject: Re: Sounblaster Live Card X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 22:20:32 -0000 Michael Nottebrock wrote: > Derrick Edwards wrote: > >> That sucks because it says on the box "Creative Sound Blaster >> Live! 24-bit". Is there a better way of picking one? > > > The sblive driver oly supports rather early models of SB Live and SB > Audigy cards. Since Creative keeps revising their hardware rather > rapidly, it might not be easy finding hardware that works with the > available drivers. Usually Creative uses the older revisions of their > chips in the budget-products, so I'd start looking there. > > I may not make friends for suggestion this, but the OpenSound drivers have worked nicely for me. I have an older (i.e. natively supported) SB LIVE! card, but was having minor problems with it after upgrading to 5.3. Being short on time, I downloaded the appropriate driver from http://www.opensound.com/. It works nicely, and allows me to use features of the card that I wouldn't be able to utilize with the native snd_emu10k1(4) module. The latest release of OpenSound drivers are free for non-commercial use, with a caveat: Supposedly some sort of message will be played on your card when it's idle. I have no idea what the sound is, as my sound card is never idle thanks to xmms. Good luck, -Ash From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 22:21:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F206716A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 22:21:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta13.adelphia.net (mta13.adelphia.net [68.168.78.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F0EA43D67 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 22:21:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from security@jim-liesl.org) Received: from smtp.jim-liesl.org ([68.71.52.28]) by mta13.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.03.02 201-2131-111-104-20040324) with ESMTP id <20041129222059.EMAN12490.mta13.adelphia.net@smtp.jim-liesl.org>; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 17:20:59 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost.jim-liesl.org [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.jim-liesl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 597E9152B5; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 15:20:56 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <41ABA0D9.3090106@jim-liesl.org> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 15:21:13 -0700 From: secmgr User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Nottebrock References: <41AA785C.5020304@math.missouri.edu> <20041129084934.GA800@gicco.homeip.net> <41AAEBD9.9010705@gmx.net> <20041129095954.GA1282@gicco.homeip.net> <41AB9006.2040303@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <41AB9006.2040303@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Beastie X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 22:21:01 -0000 Michael Nottebrock wrote: > Hanspeter Roth wrote: > >> The problem here is, that the Beastie picture is disabled by >> default. This is obviously not compatible with the majority of >> people. > > You're not up-to-date with the latest events, the beasty menu was > completely nuked from CVS yesterday after the most recent complaints > and we're now stuck again with the plain old loader prompt. Why nuke the menu? I can understand (although not agree with) taking out beastie, but the menu was handy, and added useful (to me at least) functionality. Is there some way to tweak it back in? thanks jim From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 22:25:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A4B916A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 22:25:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F54C43D31 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 22:25:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from inchoate.gsoft.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iATMPd4O012756; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 08:55:40 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: Andrea Campi Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 08:55:22 +1030 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <20041129101033.GH98559@grant.org> <20041129122059.GI98559@grant.org> <20041129123958.GA31719@webcom.it> In-Reply-To: <20041129123958.GA31719@webcom.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1964952.m0BREJmuG5"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200411300855.38435.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 () IN_REP_TO,PGP_SIGNATURE_2,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_02_03,USER_AGENT X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.16 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bios disk numbers and device names X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 22:25:45 -0000 --nextPart1964952.m0BREJmuG5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 23:09, Andrea Campi wrote: > On Mon, Nov 29, 2004 at 07:21:00AM -0500, Michael Grant wrote: > > Has anyone thought about this problem? Is there some spare space in > > the label that could be used for a device name that, if set, could > > be used in place of (or an alias for) a name like da0? > > GEOM_LABEL is what you're looking for. Check the glabel(8) man > page. In a nutshell, you'd do this: > > tunefs -L log /dev/ad1s1a > tunefs -L db /dev/da4s1a > tunefs -L www /dev/da4s1a > ... > > mount /dev/ufs/log /mnt/log > mount /dev/ufs/db /mnt/db > mount /dev/ufs/www /mnt/www > > (you get the idea). Obviously you can move use the /dev/ufs/* > devices in fstab as well. > > If later on you move the filesystems to a different device while > retaining the label (which means no tar, you have to use dd or > dump/restore), everything works. Ooh nice, the things you learn :) (Glad to be proven wrong..) =2D-=20 Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C --nextPart1964952.m0BREJmuG5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBq6Hi5ZPcIHs/zowRAnn5AJ0WBH6Qaz7x6pBkht3krBDy9lFQ9QCfZbgh UuYpLQu3mI5gd8tQT2419ww= =MKwA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1964952.m0BREJmuG5-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 22:32:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAE6C16A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 22:32:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pythagoras.zen.co.uk (pythagoras.zen.co.uk [212.23.3.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3361C43D54 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 22:32:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stacey@vickiandstacey.com) Received: from [82.68.31.182] (helo=Demon.vickiandstacey.com) by pythagoras.zen.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1CYu44-0003VG-S4; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 22:32:13 +0000 Received: from crom.vickiandstacey.com (crom [192.168.1.10]) iATMWJTa055516; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 22:32:19 GMT (envelope-from stacey@vickiandstacey.com) Received: from crom.vickiandstacey.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) iATMW2KW026256; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 22:32:02 GMT (envelope-from stacey@crom.vickiandstacey.com) Received: (from stacey@localhost) by crom.vickiandstacey.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id iATMVvZT026255; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 22:31:57 GMT (envelope-from stacey) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 22:31:57 +0000 From: Stacey Roberts To: Chris Wall Message-ID: <20041129223157.GT12622@crom.vickiandstacey.com> References: <41AACD27.6030506@paradise.net.nz> <20041129153037.GQ12622@crom.vickiandstacey.com> <41AB44E9.80904@cbrworld.com> <20041129161318.GR12622@crom.vickiandstacey.com> <41AB4E3A.5040604@cbrworld.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41AB4E3A.5040604@cbrworld.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Originating-Pythagoras-IP: [82.68.31.182] cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot install 5.3 on tyan tiger 133 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 22:32:15 -0000 Hi, An Update.., ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Wall " To: To freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 29 Nov, 2004 16:28 GMT Subject: Re: Cannot install 5.3 on tyan tiger 133 > Stacey Roberts wrote: > > >Hi Chris, > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Chris Wall " > >To: To Stacey Roberts > >Date: Mon, 29 Nov, 2004 15:48 GMT > >Subject: Re: Cannot install 5.3 on tyan tiger 133 > > > > > > > >>Stacey Roberts wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>Hi Mark, > >>> > >>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>From: "Mark Kirkwood " > >>>To: To freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > >>>Date: Mon, 29 Nov, 2004 07:17 GMT > >>>Subject: Cannot install 5.3 on tyan tiger 133 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>Recently I decided to make the switch from 4.x to 5.x, now that 5 has > >>>>moved to stable. So about a week ago I installed 5.3 on my workstation > >>>>machine, a Tyan Trinity 400. All went well, so yesterday I decided to > >>>>do my "server" - a Tyan Tiger 133. Since these shared the same chipset > >>>>I thought all would go well too. > >>>> > >>>>Not the case, I cannot even boot from the 5.3 cd - the machine hangs or > >>>>reboots immediately upon trying to boot the (I get a fleeting glance at > >>>>the drive mappings, that is all). I have verified the checksums on the > >>>>iso image I used (and the same cd installed the Trinity with no > >>>>problems) > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>I've got the same problem here on a Tyan Tiger 230 > >>>(http://www.tyan.com/products/html/tiger230.html). As well as with your > >>>experiences, I can't seem to boot two sets of FreeBSD-5.3 REL CD-ROM > >>>sets > >>> > >>>from different suppliers. Here's what I get with any of the 5.3 REL > >> > >> > >>>installation cd's: > >>> > >>>Just at the point where you'd expect the /sbin/loader bit to start that > >>>goes into the FreeBSD boot process, I get lots of (what appears to be > >>>hex numbers) gibberish scrolling up the screen. Like you I thought that > >>>I might have a faulty cdrom drive, but swapping in a (sealed) drive > >>>produced the same results. > >>> > >>>However, the FreeBSD-4.10 REL cd's do appear to "start" working through > >>>the installation, but then I get lots of errors / warnings as follows: > >>> > >>>acdo: MODE_SENSE_BIG command timeout - resetting > >>>ata1: resetting devices... done > >>> > >>>These scroll up the screen for ages and do not appear to be going > >>>anywhere - at which point I power down the system. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>This machine was running 4.10, and in case I have a suddenly bad cdrom, > >>>>I have installed 5.1 (the only other 5.x series I have lying around), > >>>>which completes fine. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>I've not got 5.1, but I did try the 5.2.1 CD-ROM Set (from BSDMall) as > >>>well with the same failure. What I was able to do is successfully > >>>install MS Windows 2K Pro, 2K Server & Fedora Core-3 on the same > >>>hardware over the last few hours - in fact, its now running Fedora > >>>Core-3 (apparently) happily. I've attached the dmesg from the Fedora > >>>install for anyone that might be intested in what the problem might be. > >>> > >>>Regards, > >>> > >>>Stacey > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>Any ideas? > >>>> > >>>>More detailed specs on the machine: > >>>> > >>>>- Tyan Tiger 133 (S1834 Rev G) > >>>>- 2xPIII 700/100/256 , 2G RAM, Promise TX2000, 2xMaxtor Plus 8 ATA-133 > >>>>40G > >>>> > >>>>regards > >>>> > >>>>Mark > >>>>_______________________________________________ > >>>>freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > >>>>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > >>>>To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >>>>"freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>>> > >>>>_______________________________________________ > >>>>freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > >>>>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > >>>>To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >>>>"freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>I didn't have any problems with my Tiger 133, although I am running a > >>SCSI disk setup. > >> > >> > > > >I've got only SCSI disks on my system: > >2 x QUANTUM Model: ATLAS10K3_18_WLS Rev: 020W > > > >Running off of a Tekram DC-390U3W card: > >sym0:1: FAST-80 WIDE SCSI 160.0 MB/s DT (12.5 ns, offset 62) > > > >Its an SMP set up: > >2 x Intel Pentium III 866: > >Intel machine check architecture supported. > >Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#1. > >CPU1: Intel Pentium III (Coppermine) stepping 0a > >Total of 2 processors activated (3432.44 BogoMIPS). > >ENABLING IO-APIC IRQs > >..TIMER: vector=0x31 pin1=2 pin2=-1 > >checking TSC synchronization across 2 CPUs: passed. > >Brought up 2 CPUs > >zapping low mappings. > > > >Keeping in mind that the above output is from Fedora-Core3 built on the > >same machine early this morning.., > > > >Did you install from FreeBSD-5.3 REL cd's? > > > >Regards, > > > >Stacey > > > > > > > > > >>Processors 2 > >>Model Intel Pentium III > >>Chip MHz 800 MHz > >>PCI Devices agp0: VIA 82C691 (Apollo Pro) host to PCI bridge > >>pcib1: PCI-PCI bridge > >>isab0: PCI-ISA bridge > >>atapci0: VIA 82C596B UDMA66 controller > >>ahc0: Adaptec 2940 Ultra SCSI adapter > >>fxp0: Intel 82558 Pro/100 Ethernet > >>IDE Devices /none/ > >>SCSI Devices cd0: PIONEER DVD-ROM DVD-305 1.06 > >>da0: IBM DNES-318350W SA30 (Capacity: 17.93 GB) > >> > >>Chris > >> > >> > >_______________________________________________ > >freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > > > Yes, I first upgraded from 5.2, then I did a fresh install from the > 5.3-RELEASE CDs and didn't experence a problem on either method. I also > have a Tyan 230T that was talked about in this thread that didn't give > me any problems either. Now all I run on this server is a web site, so > it is base install plus Apache, PHP, etc. - no X or desktops. I > remember that there were two types of Tiger 133's one with ISA and one > without (mine is without ISA slot). I just located an old FreeBSD-5.1 CD-Set from BSDMall I had lying around.., and tried install with that.., I was actually able to get through the installation process up until "Selecting Installation Media" referenced in the Handbook here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-media.html. I selected (left the default) to install using option [1] CD / DVD, but this produced an error that asays that no CD / DVD Rom drive was detected, and that I should check to make sure that the drive was supported by the OS.., or something along those lines.., How could that be? Seeing that I was actually running the installation off the 5.1 CD-Rom disk 1 at the time??? Regards, Stacey > Chris > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Stacey Roberts B. Sc (HONS) Computer Science Web: www.vickiandstacey.com From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 23:38:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50FD216A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 23:38:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com (mailout05.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A3E943D3F for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 23:38:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from M.Santhoff@t-online.de) Received: from fwd01.aul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1CYv68-0002T1-02; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 00:38:24 +0100 Received: from localhost.das.netz (Th53CUZJgeW43xxc+4eczB5JIToYqUzvhTyxlIeV-dktT731XKG5YO@[217.251.152.95]) by fwd01.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 1CYv5x-0QyiVE0; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 00:38:13 +0100 Received: from [10.0.0.3] (zaphod.das.netz [10.0.0.3]) by localhost.das.netz (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iATNVqsD082114 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 00:31:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from M.Santhoff@t-online.de) From: M.Santhoff@t-online.de (Marc Santhoff) To: "FreeBSD stable (Liste)" In-Reply-To: <41AB8F9D.8070100@gmx.net> References: <51611.192.168.0.200.1101398532.squirrel@192.168.0.200> <41A63A78.2030506@mukappabeta.de> <41A9CC27.3030408@saunalahti.fi> <41AA70E3.2000108@mukappabeta.de> <41AB1977.3090101@npf.pt.freebsd.org> <41AB8F9D.8070100@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1101771167.304.20.camel@zaphod.das.netz> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 00:32:47 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ID: Th53CUZJgeW43xxc+4eczB5JIToYqUzvhTyxlIeV-dktT731XKG5YO X-TOI-MSGID: e5a84b08-d8f9-4390-9b3e-17e61bb9604a Subject: Re: the best graphicscard for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 23:38:28 -0000 Am Mo, den 29.11.2004 schrieb Michael Nottebrock um 22:07: > Paulo wrote: > > > You are forgetting that there are many people that really need fast 3D > > graphics. In the place I work there are people working on computer > > animation, 3D models visualization on linux, solaris and freebsd. > > I wonder what kind of applications they would use on FreeBSD for such tasks. > Custom developed? And if so, why on FreeBSD, which really isn't a logical > choice for a 3D graphics workstation platform? There are several modelling tools e.g. for povray out in the wide world. Another example of 3D advantage is CAD in general, architectural modellers (don't know names either, but there were more than ten approx. 2 years ago) and programs like varicad/linux for mechanical design. I can imagine several ports would benefit (candidates may be: astk, calculix, pythoncad to name only a few). I was always happy with 4.x having support for 3D acceleration even in the linux emulation. I'm still waiting for the native 3D mechanical CAD program ... ;) And the second part of your question: think of povray-mpi for distributed computation, very good reason for having rock stable systems with the power to serve. Another reason is not to use windows and not to fiddle with the peculiar details of several different linux distributions (besides grasping the right libraries for the emulation). Most of the other reasons for FreeBSD are well known to anyone using it. Marc From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 23:53:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC0F816A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 23:53:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from msg-mx4.usc.edu (msg-mx4.usc.edu [128.125.137.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0B5F43D46 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 23:53:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kokje@ISI.EDU) Received: from [128.9.160.145] by msg-mx4.usc.edu (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.05 (built Oct 21 2004)) with ESMTPA id <0I7Y000YCT0IGQB0@msg-mx4.usc.edu> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 15:53:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 15:53:05 -0800 From: Tejas Kokje In-reply-to: <20041129205143.GA24495@xor.obsecurity.org> Sender: kokje@usc.edu To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-id: <41ABB661.2010404@ISI.EDU> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en References: <41AB72AA.7010703@ISI.EDU> <20041129205143.GA24495@xor.obsecurity.org> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (X11/20040913) cc: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: port problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 23:53:07 -0000 I just did cvsup on ports collection. So I have the lastest patches in the ports tree. One thing, is ports collection same for 4.10 and 5.3 releases ?? or there are different versions for different releases Tejas Kokje University of Southern California Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Mon, Nov 29, 2004 at 11:04:10AM -0800, Tejas Kokje wrote: > >>Hi, >> >>While installing expat2 port,I got the following error. I am running >>FreeBSD 4.10-RELEASE-p2. >> >> >>#make install clean >>===> Patching for expat-1.95.8 >>===> Applying FreeBSD patches for expat-1.95.8 >>Ignoring previously applied (or reversed) patch. >>1 out of 1 hunks ignored--saving rejects to configure.rej >> >>>>Patch patch-configure failed to apply cleanly. >> >>*** Error code 1 >> >>Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/expat2. >> >> >>I am not sure what this error means. Any comments will be appreciated. > > > You probably have stale patches in your ports tree. See the cvsup faq > on www.polstra.com for how and why. > > Kris From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 30 00:09:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9094F16A4CE for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 00:09:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F86743D2F for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 00:09:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A9615512AF; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 16:14:26 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 16:14:26 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Tejas Kokje Message-ID: <20041130001426.GA86712@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <41AB72AA.7010703@ISI.EDU> <20041129205143.GA24495@xor.obsecurity.org> <41ABB661.2010404@ISI.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="AhhlLboLdkugWU4S" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41ABB661.2010404@ISI.EDU> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org cc: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: port problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 00:09:22 -0000 --AhhlLboLdkugWU4S Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Nov 29, 2004 at 03:53:05PM -0800, Tejas Kokje wrote: > I just did cvsup on ports collection. So I have the lastest patches in=20 > the ports tree. Plus extra stuff that wasn't removed because you didn't first 'adopt' your ports tree as described in that faq. > One thing, is ports collection same for 4.10 and 5.3 releases ?? Yes. Kris P.S. Please don't top-post. > Kris Kennaway wrote: > >On Mon, Nov 29, 2004 at 11:04:10AM -0800, Tejas Kokje wrote: > > > >>Hi, > >> > >>While installing expat2 port,I got the following error. I am running=20 > >>FreeBSD 4.10-RELEASE-p2. > >> > >> > >>#make install clean > >>=3D=3D=3D> Patching for expat-1.95.8 > >>=3D=3D=3D> Applying FreeBSD patches for expat-1.95.8 > >>Ignoring previously applied (or reversed) patch. > >>1 out of 1 hunks ignored--saving rejects to configure.rej > >> > >>>>Patch patch-configure failed to apply cleanly. > >> > >>*** Error code 1 > >> > >>Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/expat2. > >> > >> > >>I am not sure what this error means. Any comments will be appreciated. > > > > > >You probably have stale patches in your ports tree. See the cvsup faq > >on www.polstra.com for how and why. > > > >Kris >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 --AhhlLboLdkugWU4S Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBq7tiWry0BWjoQKURAtpuAKCC1/PXytaoqCeh9q3fqtkKf1ucwgCfRuLL Lt4kmrMZ6/QzARIFhUTI7FI= =C4Ux -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --AhhlLboLdkugWU4S-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 30 00:23:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A14016A4CF for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 00:23:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3223543D5F for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 00:23:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 9368 invoked by uid 65534); 30 Nov 2004 00:23:34 -0000 Received: from pD95D8432.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO lofi.dyndns.org) (217.93.132.50) by mail.gmx.net (mp024) with SMTP; 30 Nov 2004 01:23:34 +0100 X-Authenticated: #443188 Received: from kiste.my.domain (kiste.my.domain [192.168.8.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by lofi.dyndns.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iAU0NR54028112 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 01:23:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) From: Michael Nottebrock To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 01:23:23 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200411300123.23822.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Subject: symlinked $HOME/.login_conf ignored X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 00:23:36 -0000 I just discovered that .login_conf must not be symlinked in order to get applied. Bug or feature? -- ,_, | Michael Nottebrock | lofi@freebsd.org (/^ ^\) | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve | http://www.freebsd.org \u/ | K Desktop Environment on FreeBSD | http://freebsd.kde.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 30 00:49:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C31716A4CE for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 00:49:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp803.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp803.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D28DB43D2D for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 00:49:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krinklyfig@spymac.com) Received: from unknown (HELO smogmonster.com) (krinklyfig@pacbell.net@64.173.25.106 with plain) by smtp803.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Nov 2004 00:49:48 -0000 From: Joshua Tinnin To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 16:49:47 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.1 References: <41AA785C.5020304@math.missouri.edu> <41AB9006.2040303@gmx.net> <41ABA0D9.3090106@jim-liesl.org> In-Reply-To: <41ABA0D9.3090106@jim-liesl.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200411291649.47913.krinklyfig@spymac.com> cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Beastie X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: krinklyfig@spymac.com List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 00:49:49 -0000 On Monday 29 November 2004 02:21 pm, secmgr wrote: > Michael Nottebrock wrote: > > Hanspeter Roth wrote: > >> The problem here is, that the Beastie picture is disabled by > >> default. This is obviously not compatible with the majority of > >> people. > > > > You're not up-to-date with the latest events, the beasty menu was > > completely nuked from CVS yesterday after the most recent > > complaints and we're now stuck again with the plain old loader > > prompt. > > Why nuke the menu? I can understand (although not agree with) taking > out beastie, but the menu was handy, and added useful (to me at > least) functionality. Is there some way to tweak it back in? Is there any way to keep it the way it was? I like it just fine, and it seems to me that the majority of users like it or don't care. Wouldn't it be more practical to provide an alternate menu without the logo for delicate sensibilities? As far as the question of the logo itself, no, FreeBSD doesn't *need* a logo, but it does actually help provide recognition. If a few people are offended by it, not much you can do, except perhaps provide a logo-free menu, if people think that's really necessary. Same thing happened with Procter and Gamble (http://www.google.com/search?q=procter+and+gamble+satan), as well as quite a few other companies and organizations. Honestly, you can't please everyone, and if an alternate menu is provided, then I'd imagine any complaints - and it seems just a few people are complaining about this irrelevant issue - would cease. - jt From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 30 00:49:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5034216A4CF for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 00:49:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp803.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp803.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D44F843D41 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 00:49:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krinklyfig@spymac.com) Received: from unknown (HELO smogmonster.com) (krinklyfig@pacbell.net@64.173.25.106 with plain) by smtp803.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Nov 2004 00:49:48 -0000 From: Joshua Tinnin To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 16:49:47 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.1 References: <41AA785C.5020304@math.missouri.edu> <41AB9006.2040303@gmx.net> <41ABA0D9.3090106@jim-liesl.org> In-Reply-To: <41ABA0D9.3090106@jim-liesl.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200411291649.47913.krinklyfig@spymac.com> cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Beastie X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: krinklyfig@spymac.com List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 00:49:49 -0000 On Monday 29 November 2004 02:21 pm, secmgr wrote: > Michael Nottebrock wrote: > > Hanspeter Roth wrote: > >> The problem here is, that the Beastie picture is disabled by > >> default. This is obviously not compatible with the majority of > >> people. > > > > You're not up-to-date with the latest events, the beasty menu was > > completely nuked from CVS yesterday after the most recent > > complaints and we're now stuck again with the plain old loader > > prompt. > > Why nuke the menu? I can understand (although not agree with) taking > out beastie, but the menu was handy, and added useful (to me at > least) functionality. Is there some way to tweak it back in? Is there any way to keep it the way it was? I like it just fine, and it seems to me that the majority of users like it or don't care. Wouldn't it be more practical to provide an alternate menu without the logo for delicate sensibilities? As far as the question of the logo itself, no, FreeBSD doesn't *need* a logo, but it does actually help provide recognition. If a few people are offended by it, not much you can do, except perhaps provide a logo-free menu, if people think that's really necessary. Same thing happened with Procter and Gamble (http://www.google.com/search?q=procter+and+gamble+satan), as well as quite a few other companies and organizations. Honestly, you can't please everyone, and if an alternate menu is provided, then I'd imagine any complaints - and it seems just a few people are complaining about this irrelevant issue - would cease. - jt From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 30 01:14:51 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C098E16A4CE for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 01:14:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx3.utmb.edu (mx3.utmb.edu [129.109.195.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C24043D45 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 01:14:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bdodson@scms.utmb.edu) Received: from histidine.utmb.edu (histidine.utmb.edu [129.109.65.24]) by mx3.utmb.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iAU1CdaQ013249 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 19:12:39 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by histidine.utmb.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id iAU1EnNh059454 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 19:14:49 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from bdodson@scms.utmb.edu) X-Authentication-Warning: histidine.utmb.edu: bdodson set sender to bdodson@scms.utmb.edu using -f From: "M. L. Dodson" Organization: University of Texas Medical Branch To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 19:14:48 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.1 References: <51611.192.168.0.200.1101398532.squirrel@192.168.0.200> <41AB8F9D.8070100@gmx.net> <1101771167.304.20.camel@zaphod.das.netz> In-Reply-To: <1101771167.304.20.camel@zaphod.das.netz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200411291914.48470.bdodson@scms.utmb.edu> X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam score=0 mlx=0 adultscore=0 adjust=0 version=2.1.0-04112300 Subject: Re: the best graphicscard for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: bdodson@scms.utmb.edu List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 01:14:51 -0000 On Monday 29 November 2004 05:32 pm, Marc Santhoff wrote: > Am Mo, den 29.11.2004 schrieb Michael Nottebrock um 22:07: > > Paulo wrote: > > > You are forgetting that there are many people that really need fast > > > 3D graphics. In the place I work there are people working on computer > > > animation, 3D models visualization on linux, solaris and freebsd. > > > > I wonder what kind of applications they would use on FreeBSD for such > > tasks. Custom developed? And if so, why on FreeBSD, which really isn't > > a logical choice for a 3D graphics workstation platform? > > There are several modelling tools e.g. for povray out in the wide world. > Another example of 3D advantage is CAD in general, architectural > modellers (don't know names either, but there were more than ten approx. > 2 years ago) and programs like varicad/linux for mechanical design. I > can imagine several ports would benefit (candidates may be: astk, > calculix, pythoncad to name only a few). > > I was always happy with 4.x having support for 3D acceleration even in > the linux emulation. I'm still waiting for the native 3D mechanical CAD > program ... ;) > > And the second part of your question: think of povray-mpi for > distributed computation, very good reason for having rock stable systems > with the power to serve. Another reason is not to use windows and not to > fiddle with the peculiar details of several different linux > distributions (besides grasping the right libraries for the emulation). > > Most of the other reasons for FreeBSD are well known to anyone using it. > > Marc Some of us work in fields where molecular graphics is important. Several open source molec. graph. applications exist (e.g. pymol in the ports). OpenGL is _required_, but Radeon cards work sufficiently well for most uses. All the world is not engineering, folks. Bud Dodson -- M. L. Dodson bdodson@scms.utmb.edu 409-772-2178 FAX: 409-772-1790 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 30 01:57:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E49416A4CE for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 01:57:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gromit.dlib.vt.edu (gromit.dlib.vt.edu [128.173.49.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B94F243D1F for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 01:57:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from paul@gromit.dlib.vt.edu) Received: from zappa.Chelsea-Ct.Org (pool-151-199-90-129.roa.east.verizon.net [151.199.90.129]) by gromit.dlib.vt.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iAU1vdRU048775 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 29 Nov 2004 20:57:40 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from paul@gromit.dlib.vt.edu) Received: from zappa.Chelsea-Ct.Org (localhost.Chelsea-Ct.Org [127.0.0.1]) by zappa.Chelsea-Ct.Org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iAU1vXmk076840 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 29 Nov 2004 20:57:34 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from paul@gromit.dlib.vt.edu) Received: (from paul@localhost) by zappa.Chelsea-Ct.Org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id iAU1vWrs076839; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 20:57:32 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from paul@gromit.dlib.vt.edu) X-Authentication-Warning: zappa.Chelsea-Ct.Org: paul set sender to paul@gromit.dlib.vt.edu using -f From: Paul Mather To: Andrea Campi In-Reply-To: <20041129140655.GB31719@webcom.it> References: <20041129101033.GH98559@grant.org> <200411292133.25842.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <20041129123958.GA31719@webcom.it><20041129140655.GB31719@webcom.it> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 20:57:29 -0500 Message-Id: <1101779849.83013.8.camel@zappa.Chelsea-Ct.Org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bios disk numbers and device names X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 01:57:42 -0000 On Mon, 2004-11-29 at 15:06 +0100, Andrea Campi wrote: > The manpage explains it all, and that's all I know as well. glabel > specifies a transient label, i.e. it's not saved on the disk, so you > loose it on reboot or if the disk goes away. Glabel can create both transient and permanent labels: "glabel create label provider" is transient; "glabel label label provider" is permanent. In the latter case, the label metadata is stored in the last sector of "provider." If geom_label is built into the kernel, or loaded as a kernel module at boot (e.g., via /boot/loader.conf) then labelled providers will be automagically discovered and /dev/label/... entries created during boot. In this way, devices can be given logical labels that will stick with them when they move around. Cheers, Paul. -- e-mail: paul@gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 30 02:06:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BB8916A4CE for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 02:06:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.messagegate.com (mail.messagegate.com [67.106.7.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA77743D5D for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 02:06:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from markm@messagegate.com) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6487.1 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 18:06:22 -0800 Message-ID: <62A29338972397468405C79C4FE13C3B013DDDD4@ex1.messagegate.local> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Need source to TCP/IP 'connect()' Thread-Index: AcTWgTB9jtGsoWsiTWqgZEooookLdg== From: "Mark McWiggins" To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Need source to TCP/IP 'connect()' X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 02:06:23 -0000 Hi All, =20 Can someone point me to (or send) the BSD source to the TCP/IP 'connect()' function? I looked through the hierarchy and couldn't find it quickly. =20 I need a hacked version to work the way Nmap does just sending SYN and then quitting to verify that an application is still running but not do a full connection, which causes the app to misbehave. =20 Thanks in advance for any help you can offer. =20 Mark McWiggins =20 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 30 02:23:51 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C571C16A4CE for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 02:23:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rader.servnow.com (rader.servnow.com [69.93.129.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9570E43D5F for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 02:23:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mikes@siralan.org) Received: from 12-210-181-37.client.insightbb.com ([12.210.181.37]) by rader.servnow.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.43) id 1CYxgD-0001dE-0v for stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 21:23:49 -0500 Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 21:23:49 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael L. Squires" X-X-Sender: mikes@familysquires.net To: stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <29616.69.53.57.66.1101744586.squirrel@69.53.57.66> Message-ID: <20041129212206.P2772@familysquires.net> References: <57343.192.168.0.200.1101739152.squirrel@192.168.0.200> <29616.69.53.57.66.1101744586.squirrel@69.53.57.66> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - rader.servnow.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - siralan.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: slow mouse in X11 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 02:23:51 -0000 On Mon, 29 Nov 2004, Jon Noack wrote: > alex bustamante wrote: >> How come that when i run X11 under FreeBSD my Intellimouse is a lot slower >> than in X11 under Linux? I use Option Protocol "auto" under FreeBSD and I had a very slow mouse when running a kernel with the debug options enabled, running 5.x-CURRENT. This was particularly noticeable under KDE/X11. Recompiling without the debugging options, of course, fixed that. Mike Squires From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 30 02:35:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D12816A4CE for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 02:35:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU (electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU [128.205.32.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4A7543D1D for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 02:35:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kensmith@cse.Buffalo.EDU) Received: from electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU (kensmith@localhost [127.0.0.1]) iAU2ZhIo002001; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 21:35:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from kensmith@localhost) by electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU (8.12.10/8.12.9/Submit) id iAU2Zg57002000; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 21:35:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 21:35:42 -0500 From: Ken Smith To: Mark McWiggins Message-ID: <20041130023542.GA390@electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU> References: <62A29338972397468405C79C4FE13C3B013DDDD4@ex1.messagegate.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <62A29338972397468405C79C4FE13C3B013DDDD4@ex1.messagegate.local> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need source to TCP/IP 'connect()' X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 02:35:44 -0000 On Mon, Nov 29, 2004 at 06:06:22PM -0800, Mark McWiggins wrote: > Can someone point me to (or send) the BSD source to the TCP/IP > 'connect()' function? > > I looked through the hierarchy and couldn't find it quickly. > > > > I need a hacked version to work the way Nmap does just sending SYN and > then quitting > > to verify that an application is still running but not do a full > connection, which causes the > > app to misbehave. > > Thanks in advance for any help you can offer. When 'fishing' for stuff in the kernel source code I find the tags files kind of useful. In a kernel build directory (e.g. I usually use src/sys/i386/compile/GENERIC on a 5.X machine, after config-ing GENERIC) after doing a 'make depend' you can do 'make tags'. It will usually fail once it starts to process the modules because it can't find 'gtags' but by then it's already built what is most useful. Once the tags file is built in the kernel build directory you can do something like: vi -t connect and it will start up vi with the cursor at the beginning of that function. It's not perfect (sometimes it can't find a function) but for the most part it works OK. In this case it found connect() in /usr/src/sys/kern/uipc_syscalls.c (I was using a RELENG_5 source tree). -- Ken Smith - From there to here, from here to | kensmith@cse.buffalo.edu there, funny things are everywhere. | - Theodore Geisel | From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 30 02:46:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BE0A16A4CE for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 02:46:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rutherford.zen.co.uk (rutherford.zen.co.uk [212.23.3.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B882043D2D for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 02:46:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stacey@vickiandstacey.com) Received: from [82.68.31.179] (helo=Demon.vickiandstacey.com) by rutherford.zen.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CYy2L-00067z-F0; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 02:46:41 +0000 Received: from crom.vickiandstacey.com (crom [192.168.1.10]) iAU2koRr055740; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 02:46:50 GMT (envelope-from stacey@vickiandstacey.com) Received: from crom.vickiandstacey.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) iAU2kTXH026935; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 02:46:29 GMT (envelope-from stacey@crom.vickiandstacey.com) Received: (from stacey@localhost) by crom.vickiandstacey.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id iAU2kJaG026934; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 02:46:19 GMT (envelope-from stacey) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 02:46:19 +0000 From: Stacey Roberts To: Chris Wall Message-ID: <20041130024618.GU12622@crom.vickiandstacey.com> References: <41AACD27.6030506@paradise.net.nz> <20041129153037.GQ12622@crom.vickiandstacey.com> <41AB44E9.80904@cbrworld.com> <20041129161318.GR12622@crom.vickiandstacey.com> <41AB4E3A.5040604@cbrworld.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41AB4E3A.5040604@cbrworld.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Originating-Rutherford-IP: [82.68.31.179] cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Solved on Tyan Tiger 230 [WAS: Cannot install 5.3 on tyan tiger 133] X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 02:46:43 -0000 Hello, ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Wall " To: To freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 29 Nov, 2004 16:28 GMT Subject: Re: Cannot install 5.3 on tyan tiger 133 > Stacey Roberts wrote: > > >Hi Chris, > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Chris Wall " > >To: To Stacey Roberts > >Date: Mon, 29 Nov, 2004 15:48 GMT > >Subject: Re: Cannot install 5.3 on tyan tiger 133 > > > > > > > >>Stacey Roberts wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>Hi Mark, > >>> > >>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>From: "Mark Kirkwood " > >>>To: To freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > >>>Date: Mon, 29 Nov, 2004 07:17 GMT > >>>Subject: Cannot install 5.3 on tyan tiger 133 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>Recently I decided to make the switch from 4.x to 5.x, now that 5 has > >>>>moved to stable. So about a week ago I installed 5.3 on my workstation > >>>>machine, a Tyan Trinity 400. All went well, so yesterday I decided to > >>>>do my "server" - a Tyan Tiger 133. Since these shared the same chipset > >>>>I thought all would go well too. > >>>> > >>>>Not the case, I cannot even boot from the 5.3 cd - the machine hangs or > >>>>reboots immediately upon trying to boot the (I get a fleeting glance at > >>>>the drive mappings, that is all). I have verified the checksums on the > >>>>iso image I used (and the same cd installed the Trinity with no > >>>>problems) > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>I've got the same problem here on a Tyan Tiger 230 > >>>(http://www.tyan.com/products/html/tiger230.html). As well as with your > >>>experiences, I can't seem to boot two sets of FreeBSD-5.3 REL CD-ROM > >>>sets > >>> > >>>from different suppliers. Here's what I get with any of the 5.3 REL > >> > >> > >>>installation cd's: > >>> > >>>Just at the point where you'd expect the /sbin/loader bit to start that > >>>goes into the FreeBSD boot process, I get lots of (what appears to be > >>>hex numbers) gibberish scrolling up the screen. Like you I thought that > >>>I might have a faulty cdrom drive, but swapping in a (sealed) drive > >>>produced the same results. > >>> > >>>However, the FreeBSD-4.10 REL cd's do appear to "start" working through > >>>the installation, but then I get lots of errors / warnings as follows: > >>> > >>>acdo: MODE_SENSE_BIG command timeout - resetting > >>>ata1: resetting devices... done > >>> > >>>These scroll up the screen for ages and do not appear to be going > >>>anywhere - at which point I power down the system. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>This machine was running 4.10, and in case I have a suddenly bad cdrom, > >>>>I have installed 5.1 (the only other 5.x series I have lying around), > >>>>which completes fine. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>I've not got 5.1, but I did try the 5.2.1 CD-ROM Set (from BSDMall) as > >>>well with the same failure. What I was able to do is successfully > >>>install MS Windows 2K Pro, 2K Server & Fedora Core-3 on the same > >>>hardware over the last few hours - in fact, its now running Fedora > >>>Core-3 (apparently) happily. I've attached the dmesg from the Fedora > >>>install for anyone that might be intested in what the problem might be. > >>> > >>>Regards, > >>> > >>>Stacey > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>Any ideas? > >>>> > >>>>More detailed specs on the machine: > >>>> > >>>>- Tyan Tiger 133 (S1834 Rev G) > >>>>- 2xPIII 700/100/256 , 2G RAM, Promise TX2000, 2xMaxtor Plus 8 ATA-133 > >>>>40G > >>>> > >>>>regards > >>>> > >>>>Mark > >>>>_______________________________________________ > >>>>freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > >>>>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > >>>>To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >>>>"freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>>> > >>>>_______________________________________________ > >>>>freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > >>>>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > >>>>To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >>>>"freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>I didn't have any problems with my Tiger 133, although I am running a > >>SCSI disk setup. > >> > >> > > > >I've got only SCSI disks on my system: > >2 x QUANTUM Model: ATLAS10K3_18_WLS Rev: 020W > > > >Running off of a Tekram DC-390U3W card: > >sym0:1: FAST-80 WIDE SCSI 160.0 MB/s DT (12.5 ns, offset 62) > > > >Its an SMP set up: > >2 x Intel Pentium III 866: > >Intel machine check architecture supported. > >Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#1. > >CPU1: Intel Pentium III (Coppermine) stepping 0a > >Total of 2 processors activated (3432.44 BogoMIPS). > >ENABLING IO-APIC IRQs > >..TIMER: vector=0x31 pin1=2 pin2=-1 > >checking TSC synchronization across 2 CPUs: passed. > >Brought up 2 CPUs > >zapping low mappings. > > > >Keeping in mind that the above output is from Fedora-Core3 built on the > >same machine early this morning.., > > > >Did you install from FreeBSD-5.3 REL cd's? > > > >Regards, > > > >Stacey > > > > > > > > > >>Processors 2 > >>Model Intel Pentium III > >>Chip MHz 800 MHz > >>PCI Devices agp0: VIA 82C691 (Apollo Pro) host to PCI bridge > >>pcib1: PCI-PCI bridge > >>isab0: PCI-ISA bridge > >>atapci0: VIA 82C596B UDMA66 controller > >>ahc0: Adaptec 2940 Ultra SCSI adapter > >>fxp0: Intel 82558 Pro/100 Ethernet > >>IDE Devices /none/ > >>SCSI Devices cd0: PIONEER DVD-ROM DVD-305 1.06 > >>da0: IBM DNES-318350W SA30 (Capacity: 17.93 GB) > >> > >>Chris > >> > >> > >_______________________________________________ > >freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > > > Yes, I first upgraded from 5.2, then I did a fresh install from the > 5.3-RELEASE CDs and didn't experence a problem on either method. I also > have a Tyan 230T that was talked about in this thread that didn't give > me any problems either. Now all I run on this server is a web site, so > it is base install plus Apache, PHP, etc. - no X or desktops. I > remember that there were two types of Tiger 133's one with ISA and one > without (mine is without ISA slot). An update to my side of this problem.., I managed to find an old thread that explained the "MODE_SENSE_BIG command timeout" problem I was experiencing on my system with FreeBSD-5.1 REL and older CD-Rom Sets., here: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=56889 I simply changed the jumper settings of the cdrom drive to "SLAVE", after which I was able to successfully install FreeBSD-5.1 - Note that 5.2.1 and 5.3-REL CD-ROM Set installation cd's still do not work on this machine - just 5.1-REL. I'm currently cvsup'ing to 5.3-Stable here, hopefully I'll be able to upgrade in a straight-forward way. Thanks again to all that responded. Regards, Stacey > Chris > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 30 02:54:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64DF516A4CF for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 02:54:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from digger1.defence.gov.au (digger1.defence.gov.au [203.5.217.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F82043D1D for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 02:54:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wilkinsa@squash.dsto.defence.gov.au) Received: from ednmsw503.dsto.defence.gov.au (ednmsw503.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.150]) by digger1.defence.gov.au with ESMTP id iAU2rZZg029575 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 13:23:35 +1030 (CST) Received: from muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (unverified) by ednmsw503.dsto.defence.gov.au (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.3.10) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 13:24:24 +1030 Received: from ednex501.dsto.defence.gov.au (ednex501.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.81]) by muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id iAU2mfQ17077 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 13:18:41 +1030 (CST) Received: from squash.dsto.defence.gov.au ([131.185.40.212]) by ednex501.dsto.defence.gov.au with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id X53DAJJY; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 13:18:40 +1030 Received: from squash.dsto.defence.gov.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by squash.dsto.defence.gov.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iAU2mwal017020 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 13:18:58 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from wilkinsa@squash.dsto.defence.gov.au) Received: (from wilkinsa@localhost) by squash.dsto.defence.gov.au (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id iAU2mwpd017019 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 13:18:58 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from wilkinsa) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 13:18:58 +1030 From: "Wilkinson, Alex" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041130024858.GA16962@squash.dsto.defence.gov.au> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <62A29338972397468405C79C4FE13C3B013DDDD4@ex1.messagegate.local> <20041130023542.GA390@electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041130023542.GA390@electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: Re: Need source to TCP/IP 'connect()' X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 02:54:37 -0000 0n Mon, Nov 29, 2004 at 09:35:42PM -0500, Ken Smith wrote: > When 'fishing' for stuff in the kernel source code I find the tags > files kind of useful. In a kernel build directory (e.g. I usually > use src/sys/i386/compile/GENERIC on a 5.X machine, after config-ing > GENERIC) after doing a 'make depend' you can do 'make tags'. It > will usually fail once it starts to process the modules because it > can't find 'gtags' but by then it's already built what is most useful. > > Once the tags file is built in the kernel build directory you can > do something like: > > vi -t connect > > and it will start up vi with the cursor at the beginning of that > function. It's not perfect (sometimes it can't find a function) > but for the most part it works OK. > > In this case it found connect() in /usr/src/sys/kern/uipc_syscalls.c > (I was using a RELENG_5 source tree). Ken, This looks useful, however, even after a buildkernel all I have is a CVS dir in /usr/src/sys/i386/compile/. Did u mean /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC ? When u say "config-ing", do u mean running config(8) manually ? -aW From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 30 03:01:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2EFC16A4CE for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 03:01:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU (electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU [128.205.32.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E74943D2F for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 03:01:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kensmith@cse.Buffalo.EDU) Received: from electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU (kensmith@localhost [127.0.0.1]) iAU31HIo002485 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 22:01:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from kensmith@localhost) by electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU (8.12.10/8.12.9/Submit) id iAU31HvE002484 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 22:01:17 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 22:01:17 -0500 From: Ken Smith To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041130030117.GB390@electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU> References: <62A29338972397468405C79C4FE13C3B013DDDD4@ex1.messagegate.local> <20041130023542.GA390@electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU> <20041130024858.GA16962@squash.dsto.defence.gov.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041130024858.GA16962@squash.dsto.defence.gov.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Need source to TCP/IP 'connect()' X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 03:01:19 -0000 On Tue, Nov 30, 2004 at 01:18:58PM +1030, Wilkinson, Alex wrote: > 0n Mon, Nov 29, 2004 at 09:35:42PM -0500, Ken Smith wrote: > > > When 'fishing' for stuff in the kernel source code I find the tags > > files kind of useful. In a kernel build directory (e.g. I usually > > use src/sys/i386/compile/GENERIC on a 5.X machine, after config-ing > > GENERIC) after doing a 'make depend' you can do 'make tags'. It > > will usually fail once it starts to process the modules because it > > can't find 'gtags' but by then it's already built what is most useful. > > > > Once the tags file is built in the kernel build directory you can > > do something like: > > > > vi -t connect > > > > and it will start up vi with the cursor at the beginning of that > > function. It's not perfect (sometimes it can't find a function) > > but for the most part it works OK. > > > > In this case it found connect() in /usr/src/sys/kern/uipc_syscalls.c > > (I was using a RELENG_5 source tree). > > This looks useful, however, even after a buildkernel all I have > is a CVS dir in /usr/src/sys/i386/compile/. > > Did u mean /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC ? > > When u say "config-ing", do u mean running config(8) manually ? I haven't tried using the results of a 'make buildkernel' to do this, it might not work. There is all sorts of magic stuff going on that places the results of 'make buildworld/buildkernel' in /usr/obj. Assuming a 5.X based i386 system I would do this: cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf config GENERIC cd ../compile/GENERIC make depend make tags vi -t connect The same basic thing works on 4.X systems but the pathnames are a tiny bit different (mostly just "cd ../../compile/GENERIC" instead). -- Ken Smith - From there to here, from here to | kensmith@cse.buffalo.edu there, funny things are everywhere. | - Theodore Geisel | From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 30 03:17:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4448C16A4CE for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 03:17:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailout2.barnet.com.au (mailout2.barnet.com.au [218.185.88.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D25643D2D for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 03:17:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from edwin@mavetju.org) Received: by mailout2.barnet.com.au (Postfix, from userid 27) id 1FFA0707461; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:17:37 +1100 (EST) X-Viruscan-Id: <41ABE65100017F4A750F04@BarNet> Received: from mail2-auth.barnet.com.au (mailout2.barnet.com.au [218.185.88.16]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) Authority" (verified OK)) by mail2.barnet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7B8C70745B; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:17:36 +1100 (EST) Received: from k7.mavetju (edwin-3.int.barnet.com.au [10.10.12.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) Certificate Authority" (verified OK)) by mail2-auth.barnet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48E0070744E; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:17:36 +1100 (EST) Received: by k7.mavetju (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2DA8060DC; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:17:35 +1100 (EST) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:17:35 +1100 From: Edwin Groothuis To: alex bustamante Message-ID: <20041130031735.GC1541@k7.mavetju> References: <57343.192.168.0.200.1101739152.squirrel@192.168.0.200> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <57343.192.168.0.200.1101739152.squirrel@192.168.0.200> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: slow mouse in X11 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 03:17:39 -0000 On Mon, Nov 29, 2004 at 03:39:12PM +0100, alex bustamante wrote: > How come that when i run X11 under FreeBSD my Intellimouse is a lot slower > than in X11 under Linux? I use Option Protocol "auto" under FreeBSD and > Option Protocol "ImPS/2" under linux. Somehow it feels like the mouse's > resolution > is different in FreeBSD. I've tried with Option Resolution from 100-2000 > without any luck. Try "xset m 10" -- Edwin Groothuis | Personal website: http://www.mavetju.org edwin@mavetju.org | Weblog: http://weblog.barnet.com.au/edwin/ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 30 04:49:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA38616A4CE for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 04:49:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from CPE000103d44c07-CM000f9f7ae88c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com (CPE000103d44c07-CM000f9f7ae88c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.193.222.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E3E043D68 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 04:49:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mikej@rogers.com) Received: from 172.16.0.1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) with ESMTP id D767D29544F for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 23:49:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from 172.16.0.200 (SquirrelMail authenticated user mikej); by 172.16.0.1 with HTTP; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 23:49:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4013.172.16.0.200.1101790160.squirrel@172.16.0.200> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 23:49:20 -0500 (EST) From: "Mike Jakubik" To: stable@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-wettoast-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-wettoast-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: mikej@rogers.com Subject: No RAID for VT8237? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 04:49:26 -0000 Can someone tell my why there is no RAID support for the VT8237 SATA controller, when the chipset is listed as supported in the ata man page? I've wasted enough money and time buying hardware and hoping that a particular onboard ATA raid chips is supported. I understand that the manufacturers may not release the data required to write a driver, and that they keep changing specs around, but if we could at least have documentation stating which of the common onboard raid chipsets are supported. The motherboard in question is a gigabyte GA-K8VM800M. FreeBSD 5.3 detects the chipset, but shows the drives individually, not as an ar array. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 30 05:51:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E97B16A4CE; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 05:51:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2588843D5E; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 05:51:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from inchoate.gsoft.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iAU5pXJW027635; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 16:21:33 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 15:51:44 +1030 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <4013.172.16.0.200.1101790160.squirrel@172.16.0.200> In-Reply-To: <4013.172.16.0.200.1101790160.squirrel@172.16.0.200> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2939130.1NL52KmIFB"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200411301551.55756.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 () IN_REP_TO,PGP_SIGNATURE_2,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.16 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) cc: Mike Jakubik cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No RAID for VT8237? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 05:51:39 -0000 --nextPart2939130.1NL52KmIFB Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 15:19, Mike Jakubik wrote: > documentation stating which of the common onboard raid chipsets are > supported. The motherboard in question is a gigabyte GA-K8VM800M. FreeBSD > 5.3 detects the chipset, but shows the drives individually, not as an ar > array. Did you define the array in the BIOS? I am not sure how good 5.3 is at defining arrays (man atacontrol says=20 atacontrol create should work but I've never used it). I doubt sysinstall h= as=20 ATA RAID creation support. =2D-=20 Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C --nextPart2939130.1NL52KmIFB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBrANz5ZPcIHs/zowRAmYfAKCPNdtDtVp/4fgU+oI3fWO1RLavMACfTwaQ jRJKVE/NCKD49xXkF6d9rTo= =4xpF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2939130.1NL52KmIFB-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 30 05:51:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E97B16A4CE; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 05:51:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2588843D5E; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 05:51:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from inchoate.gsoft.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iAU5pXJW027635; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 16:21:33 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 15:51:44 +1030 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <4013.172.16.0.200.1101790160.squirrel@172.16.0.200> In-Reply-To: <4013.172.16.0.200.1101790160.squirrel@172.16.0.200> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2939130.1NL52KmIFB"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200411301551.55756.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 () IN_REP_TO,PGP_SIGNATURE_2,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.16 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) cc: Mike Jakubik cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No RAID for VT8237? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 05:51:39 -0000 --nextPart2939130.1NL52KmIFB Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 15:19, Mike Jakubik wrote: > documentation stating which of the common onboard raid chipsets are > supported. The motherboard in question is a gigabyte GA-K8VM800M. FreeBSD > 5.3 detects the chipset, but shows the drives individually, not as an ar > array. Did you define the array in the BIOS? I am not sure how good 5.3 is at defining arrays (man atacontrol says=20 atacontrol create should work but I've never used it). I doubt sysinstall h= as=20 ATA RAID creation support. =2D-=20 Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C --nextPart2939130.1NL52KmIFB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBrANz5ZPcIHs/zowRAmYfAKCPNdtDtVp/4fgU+oI3fWO1RLavMACfTwaQ jRJKVE/NCKD49xXkF6d9rTo= =4xpF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2939130.1NL52KmIFB-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 30 06:00:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C984F16A4CF; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 06:00:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42A7B43D1F; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 06:00:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bfoz@bfoz.net) Received: from [192.168.0.5] (c-67-161-38-11.client.comcast.net[67.161.38.11]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with ESMTP id <2004113006003101600is8s4e>; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 06:00:31 +0000 Message-ID: <41AC0C7E.2000303@bfoz.net> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 22:00:30 -0800 From: Brandon Fosdick User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041111 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Scott Long References: <200411291819.iATIJkf5027124@realtime.exit.com> <41AB6F4F.4050908@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <41AB6F4F.4050908@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Beastie/ how about Mozilla? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 06:00:32 -0000 Scott Long wrote: > Please drop the religious argument. My decision was based on months of > experience, not a single email. I'm most concerned that we are allowing > ourselves to be so distracted by it. If you don't like it, don't use > it. If you like it, use it. If you don't like those that don't like > it, please keep it to yourself. So, what was the actual reason for the commit? Negelcting, for a moment, your claim to have a real reason, which I don't doubt, its just that we/I don't have it at hand...this thread was started by religious issues. So either the religious argument is relevant in this thread or we declare that religion has no place here (and therefore this thread shouldn't have been started the way it was). I vote for the latter. Now to add my rant... To the orignal poster: in my experience, this group doesn't make design decisions based on religious issues, or anything other than technical/practical issues (ideally). For future reference, the best way to get something changed around here is to present a good solid technical reason for the change. As you just saw, arguing for a design change based on delicate sensibilities is not looked well upon by the community. Hopefully it was just a mistake and not the attempt to add religiosity to our fine OS that I'm sure some people took it as. Hopefully Scott will come up with a good argument for the loss of the boot menu so that I don't look like a liar :) To everyone else: IMHO, The proper response to this would have been pointing out that the request wasn't based on anything that this group uses to make design decisions. Despite how strongly we all felt the looming spectre of religiosity, the bashing was innapropriate. And it was certainly below any reasonable standard of our culture. -- Brandon Fosdick http://www.terranspace.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 30 06:01:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 952E116A4CE; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 06:01:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from CPE000103d44c07-CM000f9f7ae88c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com (CPE000103d44c07-CM000f9f7ae88c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.193.222.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B8A743D5A; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 06:01:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mikej@rogers.com) Received: from 172.16.0.1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) with ESMTP id 43B1529585A; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 01:00:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from 172.16.0.200 (SquirrelMail authenticated user mikej); by 172.16.0.1 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 01:00:56 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4292.172.16.0.200.1101794456.squirrel@172.16.0.200> In-Reply-To: <200411301551.55756.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> References: <4013.172.16.0.200.1101790160.squirrel@172.16.0.200> <200411301551.55756.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 01:00:56 -0500 (EST) From: "Mike Jakubik" To: "Daniel O'Connor" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-wettoast-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-wettoast-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: mikej@rogers.com cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No RAID for VT8237? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 06:01:02 -0000 Daniel O'Connor said: > On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 15:19, Mike Jakubik wrote: >> documentation stating which of the common onboard raid chipsets are >> supported. The motherboard in question is a gigabyte GA-K8VM800M. >> FreeBSD 5.3 detects the chipset, but shows the drives individually, not >> as an ar array. > > Did you define the array in the BIOS? > > I am not sure how good 5.3 is at defining arrays (man atacontrol says > atacontrol create should work but I've never used it). I doubt sysinstall > has ATA RAID creation support. Yes I did. RAID 1. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 30 06:01:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 952E116A4CE; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 06:01:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from CPE000103d44c07-CM000f9f7ae88c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com (CPE000103d44c07-CM000f9f7ae88c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.193.222.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B8A743D5A; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 06:01:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mikej@rogers.com) Received: from 172.16.0.1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) with ESMTP id 43B1529585A; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 01:00:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from 172.16.0.200 (SquirrelMail authenticated user mikej); by 172.16.0.1 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 01:00:56 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4292.172.16.0.200.1101794456.squirrel@172.16.0.200> In-Reply-To: <200411301551.55756.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> References: <4013.172.16.0.200.1101790160.squirrel@172.16.0.200> <200411301551.55756.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 01:00:56 -0500 (EST) From: "Mike Jakubik" To: "Daniel O'Connor" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-wettoast-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-wettoast-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: mikej@rogers.com cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No RAID for VT8237? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 06:01:02 -0000 Daniel O'Connor said: > On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 15:19, Mike Jakubik wrote: >> documentation stating which of the common onboard raid chipsets are >> supported. The motherboard in question is a gigabyte GA-K8VM800M. >> FreeBSD 5.3 detects the chipset, but shows the drives individually, not >> as an ar array. > > Did you define the array in the BIOS? > > I am not sure how good 5.3 is at defining arrays (man atacontrol says > atacontrol create should work but I've never used it). I doubt sysinstall > has ATA RAID creation support. Yes I did. RAID 1. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 30 06:09:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B892F16A4CE; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 06:09:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F016743D1D; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 06:09:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from inchoate.gsoft.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iAU69hkI027943; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 16:39:43 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: "Mike Jakubik" Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 16:39:41 +1030 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <4013.172.16.0.200.1101790160.squirrel@172.16.0.200> <200411301551.55756.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <4292.172.16.0.200.1101794456.squirrel@172.16.0.200> In-Reply-To: <4292.172.16.0.200.1101794456.squirrel@172.16.0.200> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart5198164.v3hvAWEgu0"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200411301639.42213.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 () IN_REP_TO,PGP_SIGNATURE_2,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.16 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No RAID for VT8237? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 06:09:47 -0000 --nextPart5198164.v3hvAWEgu0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 16:30, Mike Jakubik wrote: > > Did you define the array in the BIOS? > > > > I am not sure how good 5.3 is at defining arrays (man atacontrol says > > atacontrol create should work but I've never used it). I doubt sysinsta= ll > > has ATA RAID creation support. > > Yes I did. RAID 1. Ahh, I mis-thought sorry :( =2D-=20 Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C --nextPart5198164.v3hvAWEgu0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBrA6m5ZPcIHs/zowRAhHpAJkBdQg7qePNG8QeEnPAO7ZKOK50eQCfZfet fwKSWYd9azKE6BbZddn6xTI= =Wg7q -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart5198164.v3hvAWEgu0-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 30 06:09:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B892F16A4CE; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 06:09:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F016743D1D; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 06:09:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from inchoate.gsoft.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iAU69hkI027943; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 16:39:43 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: "Mike Jakubik" Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 16:39:41 +1030 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <4013.172.16.0.200.1101790160.squirrel@172.16.0.200> <200411301551.55756.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <4292.172.16.0.200.1101794456.squirrel@172.16.0.200> In-Reply-To: <4292.172.16.0.200.1101794456.squirrel@172.16.0.200> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart5198164.v3hvAWEgu0"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200411301639.42213.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 () IN_REP_TO,PGP_SIGNATURE_2,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.16 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No RAID for VT8237? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 06:09:47 -0000 --nextPart5198164.v3hvAWEgu0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 16:30, Mike Jakubik wrote: > > Did you define the array in the BIOS? > > > > I am not sure how good 5.3 is at defining arrays (man atacontrol says > > atacontrol create should work but I've never used it). I doubt sysinsta= ll > > has ATA RAID creation support. > > Yes I did. RAID 1. Ahh, I mis-thought sorry :( =2D-=20 Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C --nextPart5198164.v3hvAWEgu0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBrA6m5ZPcIHs/zowRAhHpAJkBdQg7qePNG8QeEnPAO7ZKOK50eQCfZfet fwKSWYd9azKE6BbZddn6xTI= =Wg7q -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart5198164.v3hvAWEgu0-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 30 06:33:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4A9716A4CE for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 06:33:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wasley.bl.mmtr.or.jp (wasley.bl.mmtr.or.jp [210.228.173.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BF9C743D31 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 06:33:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rushani@bl.mmtr.or.jp) Received: (qmail 27060 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2004 15:33:35 +0900 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (202.229.142.170) by wasley.bl.mmtr.or.jp with SMTP; 30 Nov 2004 15:33:35 +0900 Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 15:32:27 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20041130.153227.30105543.rushani@bl.mmtr.or.jp> To: michaelnottebrock@gmx.net From: Hideyuki KURASHINA In-Reply-To: <200411300123.23822.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> References: <200411300123.23822.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> X-URL: http://www.rushani.jp/ X-PGP-Public-Key: http://www.rushani.jp/rushani.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: A052 6F98 6146 6FE3 91E2 DA6B F2FA 2088 439A DC57 X-RC5-72-Stats: http://stats.distributed.net/participant/psummary.php?project_id=8&id=432320 X-Mailer: Mew version 4.1.50 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: symlinked $HOME/.login_conf ignored X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 06:33:37 -0000 Hi, >>> On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 01:23:23 +0100, Michael Nottebrock said: > I just discovered that .login_conf must not be symlinked in order to get > applied. Bug or feature? Just a feature. login_cap(3) says as follows, DESCRIPTION [...] ronment before the shell is invoked on login. Note that access to the /etc/login.conf and .login_conf files will only be performed subject to the security checks documented in _secure_path(3) for the uids 0 and pwd->pw_uid respectively. and you'll get the answer from _secure_path(3). -- rushani From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 30 06:57:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF92416A4CE for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 06:57:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail5.speakeasy.net (mail5.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76FFD43D49 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 06:57:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from omniBSD@speakeasy.net) Received: (qmail 8860 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2004 06:57:45 -0000 Received: from acute.anhedonia.com (HELO [10.20.30.10]) (omni@[66.93.24.213]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 30 Nov 2004 06:57:45 -0000 Message-ID: <41AC1A0D.1020705@speakeasy.net> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 00:58:21 -0600 From: Ash User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041104 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Jakubik References: <4013.172.16.0.200.1101790160.squirrel@172.16.0.200> In-Reply-To: <4013.172.16.0.200.1101790160.squirrel@172.16.0.200> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No RAID for VT8237? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 06:57:46 -0000 Mike Jakubik wrote: > Can someone tell my why there is no RAID support for the VT8237 SATA > controller, when the chipset is listed as supported in the ata man page? > I've wasted enough money and time buying hardware and hoping that a > particular onboard ATA raid chips is supported. I understand that the > manufacturers may not release the data required to write a driver, and > that they keep changing specs around, but if we could at least have > documentation stating which of the common onboard raid chipsets are > supported. The motherboard in question is a gigabyte GA-K8VM800M. FreeBSD > 5.3 detects the chipset, but shows the drives individually, not as an ar > array. > > Mike, I'm not sure what the status of RAID on a VT8237 is, but is it possible the array(s) is(are) there and you are not noticing them? Most of these lower end PATA/SATA "RAID" controllers are doing their work in software. As such you will be able to see (not to mention mount, modify, etc...) the physical RAID components in addition to the actual array. For example, I have a Promise controller in my system with two RAID 1 arrays defined: ~ > ls /dev/ar? /dev/ar0 /dev/ar1 ~ > sudo atacontrol status ar0 ar0: ATA RAID1 subdisks: ad4 ad6 status: READY ~ > sudo atacontrol status ar1 ar1: ATA RAID1 subdisks: ad5 ad7 status: READY However, I can also physically see the components: ~ > ls /dev/ad? /dev/ad4 /dev/ad5 /dev/ad6 /dev/ad7 ~ > sudo atacontrol list ATA channel 0: Master: acd0 ATA/ATAPI revision 5 Slave: no device present ATA channel 1: Master: acd1 ATA/ATAPI revision 5 Slave: no device present ATA channel 2: Master: ad4 ATA/ATAPI revision 7 Slave: ad5 ATA/ATAPI revision 5 ATA channel 3: Master: ad6 ATA/ATAPI revision 7 Slave: ad7 ATA/ATAPI revision 5 ATA channel 4: Master: no device present Slave: no device present ATA channel 5: Master: no device present Slave: no device present IIRC sysinstall shows the RAID components before the arrays, when it comes time to choose a disk or disks to install on. -Ash From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 30 07:00:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58EEE16A4CE for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 07:00:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.186]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86C9443D68 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 07:00:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from PeterJeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from cirb503493.alcatel.com.au (c211-30-75-229.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au [211.30.75.229]) iAU70C3c022942 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 30 Nov 2004 18:00:12 +1100 Received: from cirb503493.alcatel.com.au (localhost.alcatel.com.au [127.0.0.1])iAU70BxP061912; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 18:00:12 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from pjeremy@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au) Received: (from pjeremy@localhost)iAU70BDp061911; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 18:00:11 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from pjeremy) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 18:00:11 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy To: Michael Nottebrock Message-ID: <20041130070010.GX79646@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au> References: <200411282144.56438.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> <20041128210746.GN32181@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> <200411282225.36617.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200411282225.36617.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: help! bad filesystem summary trashes system X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 07:00:15 -0000 On Sun, 2004-Nov-28 22:25:29 +0100, Michael Nottebrock wrote: >> Have you tried telling fsck to use an alternate super block (-b option)? > >I found an alternate superblock at 128, but using it gives the same error. That's not promising but you could try one of the other alternates. Assuming you didn't specify any non-standard options when you (or sysinstall) created that partition, running "newfs -N " will report all the alternate superblocks. >> If it's just a glitch that's affected the primary super block, this >> should work. If the in-core data got corrupted and has been written to >> all the superblocks, you might need to play with a filesystem editor. > >Can you suggest such an editor (and possibly give some hints what exactly to >do with it)? Unfortunately, no. I thought there was something in ports but I can't find it now. You might need to write something yourself :-(. -- Peter Jeremy From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 30 07:04:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A8C616A4CE for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 07:04:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from CPE000103d44c07-CM000f9f7ae88c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com (CPE000103d44c07-CM000f9f7ae88c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.193.222.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A572243D39 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 07:04:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mikej@rogers.com) Received: from 172.16.0.1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) with ESMTP id 19F0929544F; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 02:04:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from 172.16.0.200 (SquirrelMail authenticated user mikej); by 172.16.0.1 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 02:04:39 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4460.172.16.0.200.1101798279.squirrel@172.16.0.200> In-Reply-To: <41AC1A0D.1020705@speakeasy.net> References: <4013.172.16.0.200.1101790160.squirrel@172.16.0.200> <41AC1A0D.1020705@speakeasy.net> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 02:04:39 -0500 (EST) From: "Mike Jakubik" To: "Ash" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-wettoast-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-wettoast-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: mikej@rogers.com cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No RAID for VT8237? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 07:04:45 -0000 Ash said: > Mike, > > I'm not sure what the status of RAID on a VT8237 is, but is it possible > the array(s) is(are) there and you are not noticing them? No, there is no ar. Just the individual disks. > Most of these lower end PATA/SATA "RAID" controllers are doing their > work in software. As such you will be able to see (not to mention mount, > modify, etc...) the physical RAID components in addition to the actual > array. Yes, i understand that. I have many other servers with supported ATA raid. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 30 07:29:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97CAE16A4CE for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 07:29:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (imap.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 96CA343D4C for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 07:29:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 20194 invoked by uid 65534); 30 Nov 2004 07:29:57 -0000 Received: from pD95D8E21.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO lofi.dyndns.org) (217.93.142.33) by mail.gmx.net (mp007) with SMTP; 30 Nov 2004 08:29:57 +0100 X-Authenticated: #443188 Received: from kiste.my.domain (kiste.my.domain [192.168.8.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by lofi.dyndns.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iAU7TgDM035413 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 30 Nov 2004 08:29:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) From: Michael Nottebrock To: Peter Jeremy Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 08:29:32 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.1 References: <200411282144.56438.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> <200411282225.36617.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> <20041130070010.GX79646@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au> In-Reply-To: <20041130070010.GX79646@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart3131182.iNEcOcdy0F"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200411300829.41642.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: help! bad filesystem summary trashes system X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 07:29:59 -0000 --nextPart3131182.iNEcOcdy0F Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I already newfs'd and restored a backup, but thanks for the help! =2D-=20 ,_, | Michael Nottebrock | lofi@freebsd.org (/^ ^\) | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve | http://www.freebsd.org \u/ | K Desktop Environment on FreeBSD | http://freebsd.kde.org --nextPart3131182.iNEcOcdy0F Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBrCFlXhc68WspdLARAv33AJ9d6j1Q4lsz07u5pY0Gz7XKfPzLDgCeIlcl BH4bW+oJNhmehjJrErdcl40= =0pit -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart3131182.iNEcOcdy0F-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 30 08:53:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2465616A4CE for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 08:53:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from laas.laas.fr (laas.laas.fr [140.93.0.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 499CD43D31 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 08:53:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from l1@npf.deec.uc.pt) Received: by laas.laas.fr (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iAU8rTrR002643; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 09:53:33 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41AC3509.40809@npf.pt.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 09:53:29 +0100 From: Paulo User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (X11/20041020) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Nottebrock References: <51611.192.168.0.200.1101398532.squirrel@192.168.0.200> <87zn15zoqo.fsf@basilikum.skogtun.org> <41A63A78.2030506@mukappabeta.de> <41A9CC27.3030408@saunalahti.fi> <41AA70E3.2000108@mukappabeta.de> <41AB1977.3090101@npf.pt.freebsd.org> <41AB8F9D.8070100@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <41AB8F9D.8070100@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0 () X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang at CNRS-LAAS cc: Matthias Buelow cc: Pertti Kosunen cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org cc: Paulo Subject: Re: the best graphicscard for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 08:53:35 -0000 Michael Nottebrock wrote: > Paulo wrote: > >> You are forgetting that there are many people that really need fast >> 3D graphics. In the place I work there are people working on computer >> animation, 3D models visualization on linux, solaris and freebsd. > > > I wonder what kind of applications they would use on FreeBSD for such > tasks. Custom developed? And if so, why on FreeBSD, which really isn't > a logical choice for a 3D graphics workstation platform? > Yes custom developed, we are a research lab. The question is not why freebsd, for me the question is "why not freebsd". It just needs good drivers for 3D graphics cards, the usual GL libraries (for instance), and the applications will appear. There is something that intrigates me, I use FreeBSD since 1.x and I still see people saying that FreeBSD is not for this kind of application or that. Sorry but I don't know of any limitation in the OS that precludes its use with computer graphics applications, office, multimedia etc. Just bring in the necessary drivers and libraries and it will be as good as any other OS for developing any kind of applications. Paulo From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 30 09:08:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E59816A4D0 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 09:08:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ABD8F43D2D for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 09:08:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 28383 invoked by uid 65534); 30 Nov 2004 09:08:28 -0000 Received: from pD95D8E21.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO lofi.dyndns.org) (217.93.142.33) by mail.gmx.net (mp022) with SMTP; 30 Nov 2004 10:08:28 +0100 X-Authenticated: #443188 Received: from kiste.my.domain (kiste.my.domain [192.168.8.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by lofi.dyndns.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iAU98MDM036548 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:08:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) From: Michael Nottebrock To: Paulo Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:08:15 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.1 References: <51611.192.168.0.200.1101398532.squirrel@192.168.0.200> <41AB8F9D.8070100@gmx.net> <41AC3509.40809@npf.pt.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <41AC3509.40809@npf.pt.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1185806.xQQz6eMkyE"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200411301008.21406.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new cc: Matthias Buelow cc: Pertti Kosunen cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: the best graphicscard for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 09:08:30 -0000 --nextPart1185806.xQQz6eMkyE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Tuesday, 30. November 2004 09:53, Paulo wrote: > Michael Nottebrock wrote: > > I wonder what kind of applications they would use on FreeBSD for such > > tasks. Custom developed? And if so, why on FreeBSD, which really isn't > > a logical choice for a 3D graphics workstation platform? > > Yes custom developed, we are a research lab. The question is not why > freebsd, for me the question is "why not freebsd". It just needs good > drivers for 3D graphics cards, Well, that's exactly the reason "why not freebsd". I didn't know research l= abs=20 these days choose the software they're working with based on what they coul= d=20 do instead of what they can do. :) =2D-=20 ,_, | Michael Nottebrock | lofi@freebsd.org (/^ ^\) | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve | http://www.freebsd.org \u/ | K Desktop Environment on FreeBSD | http://freebsd.kde.org --nextPart1185806.xQQz6eMkyE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBrDiFXhc68WspdLARAlWcAKCAEQ2QCKRhQXfy/q73/7En1WwgUQCggI8c D8iIGoT87M6HM3zyYw2ssUE= =ab8c -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1185806.xQQz6eMkyE-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 30 09:10:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A5DE16A4CE for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 09:10:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (imap.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 06FAD43D49 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 09:10:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 4468 invoked by uid 65534); 30 Nov 2004 09:10:30 -0000 Received: from pD95D8E21.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO lofi.dyndns.org) (217.93.142.33) by mail.gmx.net (mp022) with SMTP; 30 Nov 2004 10:10:30 +0100 X-Authenticated: #443188 Received: from kiste.my.domain (kiste.my.domain [192.168.8.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by lofi.dyndns.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iAU9ARDM036569 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:10:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) From: Michael Nottebrock To: Paulo Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:10:25 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.1 References: <51611.192.168.0.200.1101398532.squirrel@192.168.0.200> <41AC3509.40809@npf.pt.freebsd.org> <200411301008.21406.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <200411301008.21406.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart4036987.G6KM5e0duz"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200411301010.27057.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new cc: Matthias Buelow cc: Pertti Kosunen cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: the best graphicscard for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 09:10:33 -0000 --nextPart4036987.G6KM5e0duz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Tuesday, 30. November 2004 10:08, Michael Nottebrock wrote: I shouldn't edit around in my replies so much. I meant to say: > Well, that's exactly the reason "why not freebsd". I didn't know research > labs these days choose the software they're working with based on what=20 the software could do instead of what it actually can do (right now). =2D-=20 ,_, | Michael Nottebrock | lofi@freebsd.org (/^ ^\) | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve | http://www.freebsd.org \u/ | K Desktop Environment on FreeBSD | http://freebsd.kde.org --nextPart4036987.G6KM5e0duz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBrDkDXhc68WspdLARAmDgAJ9lG6TSaVQSC7NpSMWljYRNQzP8bACfR+Vh OqCiOGNNEo+agnhVDi5KkmQ= =0GUi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart4036987.G6KM5e0duz-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 30 09:59:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7D9516A4CE for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 09:59:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from laas.laas.fr (laas.laas.fr [140.93.0.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0089743D5D for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 09:59:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from l1@npf.deec.uc.pt) Received: by laas.laas.fr (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iAU9x6i0005767; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:59:09 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41AC4469.4020108@npf.pt.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:59:05 +0100 From: Paulo User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (X11/20041020) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <51611.192.168.0.200.1101398532.squirrel@192.168.0.200> <41AC3509.40809@npf.pt.freebsd.org> <200411301008.21406.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> <200411301010.27057.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <200411301010.27057.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0 () X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang at CNRS-LAAS Subject: Re: the best graphicscard for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 09:59:10 -0000 Michael Nottebrock wrote: >On Tuesday, 30. November 2004 10:08, Michael Nottebrock wrote: > >I shouldn't edit around in my replies so much. I meant to say: > > > >>Well, that's exactly the reason "why not freebsd". I didn't know research >>labs these days choose the software they're working with based on what >> >> >the software could do instead of what it actually can do (right now). > > But you are still thinking of software consumers and not of software producers. We develop our own software and it also runs on FreeBSD... But it could run better if we had accelerated 3D drivers. Currently we have 2 options, mesa-gl and nvidia, but these options are not only for freebsd, they are the same we have for linux too. -- paulo From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 30 10:11:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D28716A4CE for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:11:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CF9F43D60 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:11:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from inchoate.gsoft.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iAUABI96031290; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 20:41:19 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 20:41:16 +1030 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.1 References: <51611.192.168.0.200.1101398532.squirrel@192.168.0.200> <41AB8F9D.8070100@gmx.net> <41AC3509.40809@npf.pt.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <41AC3509.40809@npf.pt.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2064368.39UVRzh1Wj"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200411302041.16982.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> X-Spam-Score: -5.4 () IN_REP_TO,PGP_SIGNATURE_2,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT,USER_AGENT_KMAIL X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.16 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) cc: Matthias Buelow cc: Pertti Kosunen cc: Paulo Subject: Re: the best graphicscard for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:11:25 -0000 --nextPart2064368.39UVRzh1Wj Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 19:23, Paulo wrote: > There is something that intrigates me, I use FreeBSD since 1.x and I > still see people saying that > FreeBSD is not for this kind of application or that. Sorry but I don't > know of any limitation in the OS that precludes its use with computer > graphics applications, office, multimedia etc. Just bring in the > necessary drivers and libraries and it will be as good as any other OS > for developing any kind of applications. I think the issue is that those drivers _are_ pretty unusual for FreeBSD :( It's not the OS per se, but it still is an OS issue (IMHO :) =2D-=20 Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C --nextPart2064368.39UVRzh1Wj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBrEdE5ZPcIHs/zowRAh/eAJ9BBQsGkI6hfBYIObk9C3gdnB9ZbgCeMtZZ niFDJc1r+lPEtvBqJIb9Ixs= =lkDO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2064368.39UVRzh1Wj-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 30 10:34:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB71116A4CE for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:34:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lakermmtao02.cox.net (lakermmtao02.cox.net [68.230.240.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C30443D45 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:34:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ski@indymedia.org) Received: from [10.0.0.42] (really [68.106.120.181]) by lakermmtao02.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-117-20041022) with ESMTP id <20041130103432.BFEA329.lakermmtao02.cox.net@[10.0.0.42]> for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 05:34:32 -0500 Received: from 10.0.0.26 (SquirrelMail authenticated user ski); by wuhjuhbuh.afraid.org with HTTP; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 05:35:15 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <2958.10.0.0.26.1101810915.squirrel@10.0.0.26> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 05:35:15 -0500 (EST) From: "Brian Szymanski" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: vinum raid 5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:34:33 -0000 >>>>>> "Brian" == Brian Szymanski writes: > > Brian> Actually I experienced a number of bugs with vinum in 5.3 that > Brian> proved fatal to a root vinum install (in fact, everything on > Brian> the second ATA channel was marked down after every reboot if I > Brian> recall correctly). > > I had some problems with a vinum machine (still back at 5.1) > recently. I removed a pair of drives and the remaining setup wouldn't > come back up. Turns out that multiple incantations of 'vinum > setdaemon 0' and 'vinum saveconfig' finally fixed things. > > vinum is fragile. Hmm, the vinum setdaemon 0 ; vinum saveconfig ; trick didn't work for me. If anyone else finds themself in a similar situation and feels like living dangerously, I've implemented a solution with the below shell script, to be called from /etc/rc.local. Use at your own risk. First more on the symptom: on reboot, vinum looses all config information. You can load the vinum.cfg again, but this puts every subdisk in the Raid5 in the empty state (when in fact they should usually be in the up state). You can manually set these subdisks to be up, and find all your information as it was, a nice "feature". The solution: write a crappy little shell script to remember vinum's Raid5 config information, and set its state accordingly on boot before mounting/fscking, etc. If anyone uses this, I'd be interested to hear their results. It works for me with drive power pulls. Right now it depends on state being recorded at boot time, so if vinum thinks a subdisk is down (and thus out of date), then you reboot and the drive comes back to life for a moment, you're in deep doo-doo. That is to say: flaky drives may introduce errors onto the R5, but a drive that fails once and then stays down forever will be fine with this script (this is the usual case from what I've seen, but I haven't seen everything)... Also I'm not sure why bgfsck doesn't catch the filesystem automatically, so I used atd to schedule a job to run at +7 minutes with priority 10 to do the background fsck. The idea here being that if bgfsck does for some reason catch your Raid5, this fsck should lag behind and not cause any race condition problems. A future improvement would be to call the state saving portion of the script in rc.shutdown and periodically from cron. There are many others, but it "works for me" (tm). Of course the right solution is to fix {g}vinum so this hideousness isn't necessary... Cheers, Brian Szymanski ski@indymedia.org step 1: in /etc/rc.local, add: sh /etc/rc.vinum.raid5 step 2: create /etc/rc.vinum.raid5: #!/bin/sh ### configuration # ie, mount /dev/vinum/$VINUM_NAME $VINUM_MOUNTPT VINUM_MOUNTPT="/home" VINUM_NAME="big" # location of the configuration file with just the Raid5 info VINUM_CFG="/etc/vinum.big.cfg" # email address to send notifications to ADMIN_EMAIL="ski@wjb" # place to store state DEGRADE_FILE="/vinum.degraded" # if n=# subdisks, SUBDISKS=0..n-1, e.g. the below works for a 4 drive raid5 SUBDISKS="0 1 2 3" ### no config below this point #if already mounted, abort now mount | grep -q "^/dev/vinum/$VINUM_NAME on $VINUM_MOUNTPT" && exit 0 # mount R5 device # (why on earth doesn't vinum info persist across reboot?!?) /sbin/vinum create -f "$VINUM_CFG" if [ -e "$DEGRADE_FILE" ] ; then # start subdisks based on content of DEGRADE_FILE for i in $SUBDISKS ; do #start all non-degraded subdisks grep -q $VINUM_NAME.p0.s${i} "$DEGRADE_FILE" && \ echo $VINUM_NAME.p0.s$i down || \ vinum start $VINUM_NAME.p0.s${i} done #this maintains degraded state even if new drive is inserted #this is important or else we will lose major information else /sbin/vinum start $VINUM_NAME.p0 fi #let vinum catch up... sleep 1 #check the state, mail $ADMIN_EMAIL if things are horked... state=`/sbin/vinum l | grep "^P.$VINUM_NAME\.p0" | awk '{ print $5 }'` echo state: $state if [ "z$state" = zup ] ; then # mount /dev/vinum/$VINUM_NAME "$VINUM_MOUNTPT" #fsck and mount fsck -F -p "/dev/vinum/$VINUM_NAME" mount "/dev/vinum/$VINUM_NAME" "$VINUM_MOUNTPT" #bgfsck should do this automagically, but it doesn't? at "+7 minutes" <>"$DEGRADE_FILE" #fsck and mount fsck -F -p "/dev/vinum/$VINUM_NAME" mount "/dev/vinum/$VINUM_NAME" "$VINUM_MOUNTPT" #bgfsck should do this automagically, but it doesn't? at "+7 minutes" < Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8D1916A4CE for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:48:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from c2.smr.ch (c2.smr.ch [128.179.38.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC30543D1D for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:48:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tludwig@smr.ch) Received: from localhost (034.adsl96.bie05.lan.ch [::ffff:62.204.96.34]) by c2.smr.ch with esmtp; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:48:07 +0100 Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:37:45 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <20041130.113745.74755197.tludwig@smr.ch> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Thomas Ludwig Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: the best graphicscard for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:48:10 -0000 Maybe a little OT, but: IMHO the 3D-acceleration issue is too much considered a gamer's problem: There are software producers around like us that use FreeBSD and Linux for their 3D visualization programs. As an example, display of large CFD models needs an excellent VM and good 3D acceleration. For us and our clients the overall quality (stability, correctness, speed) of the 3D part of X & co. is an important criterium of the platform, as is the stability of the kernel, the quality of the file system, manpages, etc. On SGI, we had excellent 3D support, but price-performance, stability, and security were less good. On BSD and Linux we have the latter, but are running in all kinds of problems with 3D, especially when using multiple OpenGL contexts in multiple threads, off-screen rendering, etc. Testing is quite intricate, and there are many subtle ways to screw things there (e.g. recent xorg and xfree86 crashes X server during off-screen rendering). Stuff like glxgears is not sufficient for that purpose... -- Thomas Ludwig SMR SA Phone: +41-32-3452124 P.O. Box 4014 Fax: +41-32-3452120 CH-2500 Bienne 4 E-mail: ludwig@smr.ch From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 30 11:09:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 630F116A4CE for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:09:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gidgate.gid.co.uk (gid.co.uk [194.32.164.225]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C59A43D49 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:09:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Received: (from rb@localhost) by gidgate.gid.co.uk (8.11.7/8.11.6) id iAUB9lO53133; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:09:47 GMT (envelope-from rb) Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.2.20041130110542.03fdced0@gid.co.uk> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14 Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:09:34 +0000 To: "Mike Jakubik" From: Bob Bishop In-Reply-To: <4460.172.16.0.200.1101798279.squirrel@172.16.0.200> References: <4013.172.16.0.200.1101790160.squirrel@172.16.0.200> <41AC1A0D.1020705@speakeasy.net> <4460.172.16.0.200.1101798279.squirrel@172.16.0.200> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No RAID for VT8237? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:09:52 -0000 Hi, At 07:04 30/11/2004, Mike Jakubik wrote: >Ash said: > > > Mike, > > > > I'm not sure what the status of RAID on a VT8237 is, but is it possible > > the array(s) is(are) there and you are not noticing them? > >No, there is no ar. Just the individual disks. > > > Most of these lower end PATA/SATA "RAID" controllers are doing their > > work in software. As such you will be able to see (not to mention mount, > > modify, etc...) the physical RAID components in addition to the actual > > array. > >Yes, i understand that. I have many other servers with supported ATA raid. You might try an 'atacontrol create '. I had a problem where I'd defined RAID1 in the BIOS, but 5.3 wouldn't see it (specifically saw the drives individually but no ar0); after atacontrol create... it all works. Go fig. -- Bob Bishop +44 (0)118 940 1243 rb@gid.co.uk fax +44 (0)118 940 1295 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 30 12:17:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB0FE16A4CE for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 12:17:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cenn.mc.mpls.visi.com (cenn.mc.mpls.visi.com [208.42.156.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 925E343D2F for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 12:17:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from seahawk@visi.com) Received: from isis.visi.com (isis.visi.com [209.98.98.8]) by cenn.mc.mpls.visi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11DF38588 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 06:16:56 -0600 (CST) Received: by isis.visi.com (Postfix, from userid 20347) id DD08376C69; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 06:16:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by isis.visi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D093476C56 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 06:16:55 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 06:16:55 -0600 (CST) From: Seahawk To: stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <41ABA0D9.3090106@jim-liesl.org> Message-ID: References: <41AA785C.5020304@math.missouri.edu> <20041129084934.GA800@gicco.homeip.net> <41AAEBD9.9010705@gmx.net> <20041129095954.GA1282@gicco.homeip.net> <41AB9006.2040303@gmx.net> <41ABA0D9.3090106@jim-liesl.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: Beastie X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 12:17:00 -0000 On Mon, 29 Nov 2004, secmgr wrote: > Michael Nottebrock wrote: > > > Hanspeter Roth wrote: > > > >> The problem here is, that the Beastie picture is disabled by > >> default. This is obviously not compatible with the majority of > >> people. > > > > You're not up-to-date with the latest events, the beasty menu was > > completely nuked from CVS yesterday after the most recent complaints > > and we're now stuck again with the plain old loader prompt. > > Why nuke the menu? I can understand (although not agree with) taking > out beastie, but the menu was handy, and added useful (to me at least) > functionality. Is there some way to tweak it back in? > > thanks > jim I'd hope that this is only a temporary measure until someone can get around to rewriting the boot menu to load minus beastie as the default, and I'd hope there's the option to enable loading with beastie enabled in either b&w or color. I'd think it would be just easier to remove the "boring-beastie" and "technicolor-beastie" ascii art sections from the beastie.4th file so that we could still have the menu until a final fix to this issue can be made. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 30 13:12:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AF2116A4CE for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 13:12:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from frogman.motivity.ca (frogman.motivity.ca [64.235.96.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2538643D49 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 13:12:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vances@frogman.motivity.ca) Received: from frogman.motivity.ca (localhost.motivity.ca [127.0.0.1]) by frogman.motivity.ca (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iAUDCSPM019117; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 08:12:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from vances@frogman.motivity.ca) Received: (from vances@localhost) by frogman.motivity.ca (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id iAUDCSkI019116; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 08:12:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from vances) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 08:12:28 -0500 From: Vance Shipley To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041130131228.GA19023@frogman.motivity.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Organization: Motivity Telecom Inc. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Subject: erase2 ( xterm X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 13:12:29 -0000 What's up with the ( key functioning as a backspace key in an xterm? $ stty -a | grep erase2 eol2 = ; erase = ^?; erase2 = (; intr = ^C; kill = ^U; I tried setting ttyModes to no avail. -Vance From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 30 14:36:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 269F616A4CE for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:36:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from entropy.tmok.com (entropy.tmok.com [68.15.34.115]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CF3C43D67 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:36:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vman@entropy.tmok.com) Received: from entropy.tmok.com (vman@localhost.tmok.com [127.0.0.1]) by entropy.tmok.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id iAUEac4w041830 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 09:36:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from vman@entropy.tmok.com) Received: (from vman@localhost) by entropy.tmok.com (8.12.10/8.12.5/Submit) id iAUEacOX041829 for stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 09:36:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from vman) Message-ID: <20041130093638.A41725@tmok.com> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 09:36:38 -0500 From: Vlad Manilici To: stable@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.1i Subject: problem with the CD driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:36:40 -0000 hi, has anyone seen this (kern/74066), except me? my CD driver (acdi(4)) fails while mounting with the following message: acd0: FAILURE - READ_BIG timed out. it seems to me this is a quite serious issue. vlad From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 30 14:45:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8B6716A4CE for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:45:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from flake.decibel.org (flake.decibel.org [66.143.173.58]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AA6F43D66 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:45:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from decibel@decibel.org) Received: by flake.decibel.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B60281C8F3; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 08:45:41 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 08:45:41 -0600 From: "Jim C. Nasby" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041130144541.GH41545@decibel.org> Mail-Followup-To: "Jim C. Nasby" , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20041130.113745.74755197.tludwig@smr.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041130.113745.74755197.tludwig@smr.ch> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.10-RELEASE-p3 i386 X-Distributed: Join the Effort! http://www.distributed.net User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: Re: the best graphicscard for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:45:45 -0000 I think it's important that companies such as yours that depend on 3D performance write to the various video card manufacturers. As others have pointed out, the home market for 3D support is and will continue to be nill until gaming becomes common on *BSD and Linux. Companies that need good drivers can easily provide these manufacturers with hard data about how many video cards they typically buy in a year, which the manufacturers can translate into how much is to be made by supporting FreeBSD. On Tue, Nov 30, 2004 at 11:37:45AM +0100, Thomas Ludwig wrote: > Maybe a little OT, but: > > IMHO the 3D-acceleration issue is too much considered a gamer's > problem: There are software producers around like us that use FreeBSD > and Linux for their 3D visualization programs. As an example, display > of large CFD models needs an excellent VM and good 3D acceleration. > For us and our clients the overall quality (stability, correctness, > speed) of the 3D part of X & co. is an important criterium of the > platform, as is the stability of the kernel, the quality of the file > system, manpages, etc. > > On SGI, we had excellent 3D support, but price-performance, stability, > and security were less good. On BSD and Linux we have the latter, but > are running in all kinds of problems with 3D, especially when using > multiple OpenGL contexts in multiple threads, off-screen rendering, > etc. > > Testing is quite intricate, and there are many subtle ways to screw > things there (e.g. recent xorg and xfree86 crashes X server during > off-screen rendering). Stuff like glxgears is not sufficient for that > purpose... > > -- > Thomas Ludwig > SMR SA Phone: +41-32-3452124 > P.O. Box 4014 Fax: +41-32-3452120 > CH-2500 Bienne 4 E-mail: ludwig@smr.ch > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Jim C. Nasby, Database Consultant decibel@decibel.org Give your computer some brain candy! www.distributed.net Team #1828 Windows: "Where do you want to go today?" Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" FreeBSD: "Are you guys coming, or what?" From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 30 14:47:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D44BD16A4CE for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:47:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.broadpark.no (mail.broadpark.no [217.13.4.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3578B43D49 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:47:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no) Received: from kg-work.kg4.no (59.80-203-66.nextgentel.com [80.203.66.59]) by mail.broadpark.no (Postfix) with SMTP id 53B5B79DB for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 15:47:20 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 15:47:15 +0100 From: Torfinn Ingolfsen To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20041130154715.3465d998.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> In-Reply-To: <20041130131228.GA19023@frogman.motivity.ca> References: <20041130131228.GA19023@frogman.motivity.ca> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.0beta3 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) X-Face: "t9w2,-X@O^I`jVW\sonI3.,36KBLZE*AL[y9lL[PyFD*r_S:dIL9c[8Y>V42R0"!"yb_zN,f#%.[PYYNq;m"_0v;~rUM2Yy!zmkh)3&U|u!=T(zyv,MHJv"nDH>OJ`t(@mil461d_B'Uo|'nMwlKe0Mv=kvV?Nh@>Hb<3s_z2jYgZhPb@?Wi^x1a~Hplz1.zH Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: erase2 ( xterm X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:47:23 -0000 On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 08:12:28 -0500 Vance Shipley wrote: > > What's up with the ( key functioning as a backspace key > in an xterm? It doesn't do that here: tingo@kg-work$ echo $TERM xterm tingo@kg-work$ stty -a | grep erase -echoprt -altwerase -noflsh -tostop -flusho pendin -nokerninfo eol2 = ; erase = ^H; erase2 = ^H; intr = ^C; kill = ^U; status = ^T; stop = ^S; susp = ^Z; time = 0; werase = ^W; I'm running: tingo@kg-work$ uname -a FreeBSD kg-work.kg4.no 5.3-STABLE FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE #1: Sun Nov 14 20:19:11 CET 2004 root@kg-work.kg4.no:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SS51G i386 -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen, Norway From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 30 16:18:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82AB016A4CF for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 16:18:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from CPE000103d44c07-CM000f9f7ae88c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com (CPE000103d44c07-CM000f9f7ae88c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.193.222.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15B6343D1D for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 16:18:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mikej@rogers.com) Received: from cpe000103d44c07-cm000f9f7ae88c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com (localhost [127.0.0.1])with ESMTP id AC2CC29585A; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:18:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from 207.219.213.163 (proxying for unknown) (SquirrelMail authenticated user mikej); by cpe000103d44c07-cm000f9f7ae88c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com with HTTP; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:18:18 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38976.207.219.213.163.1101831498.squirrel@207.219.213.163> In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.2.20041130110542.03fdced0@gid.co.uk> References: <4013.172.16.0.200.1101790160.squirrel@172.16.0.200> <41AC1A0D.1020705@speakeasy.net> <4460.172.16.0.200.1101798279.squirrel@172.16.0.200> <6.2.0.14.2.20041130110542.03fdced0@gid.co.uk> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:18:18 -0500 (EST) From: "Mike Jakubik" To: "Bob Bishop" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-wettoast-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-wettoast-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: mikej@rogers.com cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No RAID for VT8237? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 16:18:26 -0000 Bob Bishop said: > You might try an 'atacontrol create '. I had a problem where I'd > defined RAID1 in the BIOS, but 5.3 wouldn't see it (specifically saw the > drives individually but no ar0); after atacontrol create... it all works. > Go fig. Unfortunately i need to boot off this raid, and i already setup a system on one of the disks, which my client needs today. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 30 17:44:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 045D516A4CE for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 17:44:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.hispeed.ch (mxout.hispeed.ch [62.2.95.247]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E31B143D31 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 17:44:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hampi@rootshell.be) Received: from gicco.homeip.net (217-162-157-43.dclient.hispeed.ch [217.162.157.43])iAUHiji2003886 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 18:44:46 +0100 Received: from goofy.here (localhost.here [127.0.0.1]) by gicco.homeip.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iAUHijc2001019 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 18:44:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from hampi@rootshell.be) Received: (from idefix@localhost) by goofy.here (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id iAUHiiGj001018 for stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 18:44:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from hampi@rootshell.be) X-Authentication-Warning: goofy.here: idefix set sender to hampi@rootshell.be using -f Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 18:44:44 +0100 From: Hanspeter Roth To: stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041130174444.GA954@gicco.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: stable@freebsd.org References: <41AA785C.5020304@math.missouri.edu> <20041129084934.GA800@gicco.homeip.net> <41AAEBD9.9010705@gmx.net> <20041129095954.GA1282@gicco.homeip.net> <41AB9006.2040303@gmx.net> <41ABA0D9.3090106@jim-liesl.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: Beastie X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: stable@freebsd.org List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 17:44:49 -0000 On Nov 30 at 06:16, Seahawk spoke: > I'd hope that this is only a temporary measure until someone can get > around to rewriting the boot menu to load minus beastie as the default, > and I'd hope there's the option to enable loading with beastie enabled in > either b&w or color. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=70231 This disables the Beastie by default. It can be enabled by loader_banner="NO". -Hanspeter From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 30 18:28:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 819A516A4CE for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 18:28:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ran.psg.com (ip192.186.dsl-acs2.seawa0.iinet.com [209.20.186.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5582243D58 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 18:28:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from randy@psg.com) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=ran.psg.com.psg.com) by ran.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.43 (FreeBSD)) id 1CZCjU-000PeI-9I; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:28:12 -0800 From: Randy Bush MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16812.48059.677082.700612@ran.psg.com> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:28:11 -0800 To: "Jon Noack" References: <42539.69.53.57.66.1101751576.squirrel@69.53.57.66> <200411291819.iATIJkf5027124@realtime.exit.com> <16811.29240.206075.329023@ran.psg.com> <49449.69.53.57.66.1101755062.squirrel@69.53.57.66> cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Beastie/ how about Mozilla? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 18:28:13 -0000 > Throw 'loader_color="YES"' into /boot/loader.conf... doh! From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 30 18:45:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7B4116A4CE for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 18:45:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (cpc2-cdif3-6-0-cust204.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.103.67.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67DDD43D1F for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 18:45:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.43 (FreeBSD)) id 1CZCzm-000PIG-Cl for stable@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 18:45:02 +0000 Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 18:45:02 +0000 From: Ceri Davies To: stable@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20041130184502.GT60679@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , stable@FreeBSD.org References: <20041125205836.GH37244@submonkey.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="l2C7pJE7HE4aLL3l" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041125205836.GH37244@submonkey.net> X-PGP: finger ceri@FreeBSD.org User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Sender: Ceri Davies Subject: Re: 4.10 -> 5.3 migration; what happens to vinum volumes? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 18:45:03 -0000 --l2C7pJE7HE4aLL3l Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Nov 25, 2004 at 08:58:36PM +0000, Ceri Davies wrote: >=20 > I have a 4.10-STABLE machine that I want to migrate to 5.3-STABLE. Most > of the bases are covered, but I'm not sure what to expect for my vinum > volumes. I don't have anything esoteric (see attached config), but can > I just expect "sed -i.bak -e 's/vinum/gvinum/' /etc/fstab" to leave me > with working volumes? Should I take it that nobody knows, or that nobody wants to say? > # Vinum configuration of shrike.private.submonkey.net, saved at Thu Nov 2= 5 20:54:01 2004 > drive vinumdrive2 device /dev/ad0s1d > drive vinumdrive0 device /dev/ad0s1h > drive vinumdrive3 device /dev/ad1s1d > drive vinumdrive1 device /dev/ad1s1h > volume userhome > volume werehaus > plex name userhome.p0 org concat vol userhome=20 > plex name userhome.p1 org concat vol userhome=20 > plex name werehaus.p0 org striped 512s vol werehaus=20 > sd name userhome.p0.s0 drive vinumdrive0 plex userhome.p0 len 52428535s d= riveoffset 265s plexoffset 0s > sd name userhome.p1.s0 drive vinumdrive1 plex userhome.p1 len 52428535s d= riveoffset 265s plexoffset 0s > sd name werehaus.p0.s0 drive vinumdrive2 plex werehaus.p0 len 67166720s d= riveoffset 265s plexoffset 0s > sd name werehaus.p0.s1 drive vinumdrive3 plex werehaus.p0 len 67166720s d= riveoffset 265s plexoffset 512s Ceri --=20 Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Einstein (attrib.) --l2C7pJE7HE4aLL3l Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBrL+tocfcwTS3JF8RAsuSAJoCQ2+yavcf6WG09jlN4dJpCYJ7VgCfeqi2 h++u6idyhVlBP896Ub3jZXk= =WjMP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --l2C7pJE7HE4aLL3l-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 30 22:04:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21F3516A4CE for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 22:04:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail4.speakeasy.net (mail4.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDEBE43D1D for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 22:04:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-stable-local@be-well.no-ip.com) Received: (qmail 28171 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2004 22:04:12 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail4.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 30 Nov 2004 22:04:12 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id C246C6B; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 17:04:11 -0500 (EST) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: Vlad Manilici References: <20041130093638.A41725@tmok.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 30 Nov 2004 17:04:11 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20041130093638.A41725@tmok.com> Message-ID: <44u0r756zo.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 7 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problem with the CD driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: stable@freebsd.org List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 22:04:13 -0000 Vlad Manilici writes: > has anyone seen this (kern/74066), except me? my CD driver (acdi(4)) fails > while mounting with the following message: acd0: FAILURE - READ_BIG timed out. That's not much of a bug report, though, is it? You haven't even said what happens if you try it without ACPI. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 30 22:30:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 672C516A4CE for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 22:30:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fx.homeunix.org (194.105.96.29.cablesurf.de [194.105.96.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 461D243D55 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 22:30:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vman@fx.homeunix.org) Received: from fx.homeunix.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fx.homeunix.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iAUMU5i9000800 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 23:30:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from vman@fx.homeunix.org) Received: (from vman@localhost) by fx.homeunix.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id iAUMU51W000799 for stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 23:30:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from vman) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 23:30:05 +0100 From: Vlad Manilici To: stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041130223005.GA700@fx.homeunix.org> References: <20041130093638.A41725@tmok.com> <44u0r756zo.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="wac7ysb48OaltWcw" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <44u0r756zo.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: problem with the CD driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: vman@tmok.com List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 22:30:14 -0000 --wac7ysb48OaltWcw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hi Lowell, > That's not much of a bug report, though, is it? > You haven't even said what happens if you try it without ACPI. You are right: without ACPI the same thing happens. I tested the hardware, while booting an OpenBSD installation CD: it works properly. I will gladly answer any further questions regarding this problem :). Do you have any ideas where I should look at? Did this happen to anyone else? Thanks, Vlad --wac7ysb48OaltWcw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBrPRt6nFnsKakTo4RAuDwAKCLCwCr7H//CUMDgI4Ij8LVpDpQlwCgoW2F woZPmguOcWdqc5wWOi+ytho= =gfoK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --wac7ysb48OaltWcw-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 30 22:39:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0172516A4CE for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 22:39:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freebee.digiware.nl (dsl439.iae.nl [212.61.63.187]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF4DA43D39 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 22:38:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wjw@withagen.nl) Received: from [212.61.27.71] (dual.digiware.nl [212.61.27.71]) by freebee.digiware.nl (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iAUMcs4x024283; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 23:38:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wjw@withagen.nl) Message-ID: <41ACF67E.6000000@withagen.nl> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 23:38:54 +0100 From: Willem Jan Withagen User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ceri Davies References: <20041125205836.GH37244@submonkey.net> <20041130184502.GT60679@submonkey.net> In-Reply-To: <20041130184502.GT60679@submonkey.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.10 -> 5.3 migration; what happens to vinum volumes? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 22:39:00 -0000 Ceri Davies wrote: > On Thu, Nov 25, 2004 at 08:58:36PM +0000, Ceri Davies wrote: > >>I have a 4.10-STABLE machine that I want to migrate to 5.3-STABLE. Most >>of the bases are covered, but I'm not sure what to expect for my vinum >>volumes. I don't have anything esoteric (see attached config), but can >>I just expect "sed -i.bak -e 's/vinum/gvinum/' /etc/fstab" to leave me >>with working volumes? > > > Should I take it that nobody knows, or that nobody wants to say? > > >># Vinum configuration of shrike.private.submonkey.net, saved at Thu Nov 25 20:54:01 2004 >>drive vinumdrive2 device /dev/ad0s1d >>drive vinumdrive0 device /dev/ad0s1h >>drive vinumdrive3 device /dev/ad1s1d >>drive vinumdrive1 device /dev/ad1s1h >>volume userhome >>volume werehaus >>plex name userhome.p0 org concat vol userhome >>plex name userhome.p1 org concat vol userhome >>plex name werehaus.p0 org striped 512s vol werehaus >>sd name userhome.p0.s0 drive vinumdrive0 plex userhome.p0 len 52428535s driveoffset 265s plexoffset 0s >>sd name userhome.p1.s0 drive vinumdrive1 plex userhome.p1 len 52428535s driveoffset 265s plexoffset 0s >>sd name werehaus.p0.s0 drive vinumdrive2 plex werehaus.p0 len 67166720s driveoffset 265s plexoffset 0s >>sd name werehaus.p0.s1 drive vinumdrive3 plex werehaus.p0 len 67166720s driveoffset 265s plexoffset 512s From what I've seen on the lists, I'd be carefull to go that route yet with doing a full backup of all data. Lets say that gvinum has still rough edges. But then those only get smoothed out by people taking the leap. There have also been raports on succes. So I guess the reason nobody replied is just because there is no consensus. Also look in the GEOM@ archive for several threads on this topic. For my main fileserver I've stopped at 5.1 at this moment. I need to test more before I go there, but I can't seem to find mucht time lately. It that the customers pay the bills for not playing around. :() --WjW From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 30 22:55:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01A8916A4CE; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 22:55:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE76D43D48; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 22:55:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 30 Nov 2004 16:52:33 -0600 Message-ID: <41ACFA75.3040307@daleco.biz> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 16:55:49 -0600 From: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041023 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Torfinn Ingolfsen References: <20041130131228.GA19023@frogman.motivity.ca> <20041130154715.3465d998.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> In-Reply-To: <20041130154715.3465d998.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Nov 2004 22:52:34.0137 (UTC) FILETIME=[47CE8C90:01C4D72F] cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org cc: Vance Shipley Subject: Re: erase2 ( xterm X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 22:55:40 -0000 I'm cc-ing questions@ in the hope that Vance gets an answer, and because this probably isn't really stable@ material. *To whom it may concern: **Please** remove the freebd-stable CC if you reply. Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: >On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 08:12:28 -0500 >Vance Shipley wrote: > > >>What's up with the ( key functioning as a backspace key >>in an xterm? >> >> > >It doesn't do that here: >tingo@kg-work$ echo $TERM >xterm >tingo@kg-work$ stty -a | grep erase > -echoprt -altwerase -noflsh -tostop -flusho pendin -nokerninfo > eol2 = ; erase = ^H; erase2 = ^H; intr = ^C; kill = ^U; > status = ^T; stop = ^S; susp = ^Z; time = 0; werase = ^W; > >I'm running: >tingo@kg-work$ uname -a >FreeBSD kg-work.kg4.no 5.3-STABLE FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE #1: Sun Nov 14 >20:19:11 CET 2004 root@kg-work.kg4.no:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SS51G >i386 > > Hmm, note that he was grepping "erase2" and you grepped "erase." Check the original post .... It shows up like Vance's here, in xterm, Eterm, Aterm, gnometerminal, and on the console on ttyv2 whether $TERM is set to "xterm-color", "xterm", or "cons25". Probably if you grep the same term, yours will say that also ... However, his statement "functioning as a backspace" doesn't ring true, because, no such functionality is present (for me) in any terminal with that key, regardless of the $TERM variable. Terminal emulation is a little bit mysterious to me; maybe someone with more expertise can answer the larger question. I'm just curious whether pushing the {right parenthesis} character on Vance's keyboard actually does backspace, and whether he's on the console, on X, using PuTTY from a Winboxen, etc., and/or what terminal emulator he's actually using, what version he's running, whether his termcap symlink or file is corrupt/missing, etc., etc., blah, blah.... Vance? Kevin Kinsey From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 30 23:06:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 664) id 88EC916A4D0; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 23:06:59 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 23:06:59 +0000 From: David O'Brien To: Bob Bishop Message-ID: <20041130230659.GA30089@hub.freebsd.org> References: <4013.172.16.0.200.1101790160.squirrel@172.16.0.200> <41AC1A0D.1020705@speakeasy.net> <4460.172.16.0.200.1101798279.squirrel@172.16.0.200> <6.2.0.14.2.20041130110542.03fdced0@gid.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.2.20041130110542.03fdced0@gid.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: Mike Jakubik cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No RAID for VT8237? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 23:06:59 -0000 On Tue, Nov 30, 2004 at 11:09:34AM +0000, Bob Bishop wrote: > You might try an 'atacontrol create '. I had a problem where I'd > defined RAID1 in the BIOS, but 5.3 wouldn't see it (specifically saw the > drives individually but no ar0); after atacontrol create... it all works. > Go fig. This isn't weird. By using 'atacontrol create' yourself, you have a pure-software RAID same as you would have with ccd(4). The difference from defineing it in your software-assist "RAID" BIOS is that you can boot off the RAID. With the pure-software RAID you cannot[*]. [*] Unless your PATA/SATA "RAID" controller just happens to understand the metadata used by 'atacontrol create'. A 'atacontrol create' RAID1 (mirror) might also be bootable, I'm not sure about that; but a RAID0 (stripe) certainly isn't. There are many new SATA "RAID" controllers that our ATA driver doesn't yet understand the metadata. Soren is working on support for these newer chipsets. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 30 23:08:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 664) id ACBC116A4CF; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 23:08:15 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 23:08:15 +0000 From: David O'Brien To: Edwin Groothuis Message-ID: <20041130230815.GB30089@hub.freebsd.org> References: <41AA785C.5020304@math.missouri.edu> <20041129012340.GA24768@xor.obsecurity.org> <20041129012559.GB1541@k7.mavetju> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041129012559.GB1541@k7.mavetju> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Beastie X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 23:08:15 -0000 On Mon, Nov 29, 2004 at 12:25:59PM +1100, Edwin Groothuis wrote: > On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 05:23:40PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 07:16:12PM -0600, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > > > It is with a little intrepidation that I ask this question, because I > > > sense that what I am about to ask might push some buttons, or perhaps > > > bring back some unpleasant memories of those who have asked what I am > > > going to ask in a less tactful manner. > > > > > > I find that the beastie that appears at boot time with FreeBSD 5.3 > > > mildly bothers me. It is possible for me to edit boot/beastie.4th, but > > > this gets put back each time I do make installworld. > > > > > > Would it be possible to add a variable "show_beastie" to be put in > > > /boot/loader.conf, which would default to "YES", but users could add in > > > show_beastie="NO" if they didn't want it, but only want the menu. > > > > That option is already there, you didn't look hard enough. > > It's not really the easiest option to find kris... > > beastie_disable="YES" What do you suggest to make it easier? -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 30 23:14:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D990D16A4CE for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 23:14:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 671E143D53 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 23:14:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rob@pythonemproject.com) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (c-67-169-203-186.client.comcast.net[67.169.203.186]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with ESMTP id <2004113023140201200ibcjte>; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 23:14:02 +0000 Message-ID: <41ACFF49.7040905@pythonemproject.com> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 15:16:25 -0800 From: Rob User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Mozilla mascot post came out of laughter, not any condescending ill will X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: rob@pythonemproject.com List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 23:14:16 -0000 Yesterday was a lousy grey day in Oregon. And the Beasty posts made me think of the Doctor, and I got a great laugh out of it. He could have belonged to any religion as far as I care. It was just the insanity of it all. For me, it has actually started to make me read posts on this list and not just delete them after looking at the title. And for once, posts outnumbered spam on this email address. And I see some philosophical issues popping up. I have no opinion on them. FreeBSD just works for me and for my domain at Verio. What surprises me the most out of last few days is not any controversial issues, but the fact that lately I've been listening to music thats 40 years old. You really need a good laugh after that. The 60's really sucked. Rob. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 30 23:21:51 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D409916A4CE; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 23:21:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailout2.barnet.com.au (mailout2.barnet.com.au [218.185.88.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8760243D4C; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 23:21:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from edwin@mavetju.org) Received: by mailout2.barnet.com.au (Postfix, from userid 27) id BAA3970745B; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 10:21:50 +1100 (EST) X-Viruscan-Id: <41AD008E0000DD34636012@BarNet> Received: from mail2-auth.barnet.com.au (mailout2.barnet.com.au [218.185.88.16]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) Authority" (verified OK)) by mail2.barnet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74B61707456; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 10:21:50 +1100 (EST) Received: from k7.mavetju (edwin-3.int.barnet.com.au [10.10.12.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) Certificate Authority" (verified OK)) by mail2-auth.barnet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3E2770743C; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 10:21:49 +1100 (EST) Received: by k7.mavetju (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A6A1C613F; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 10:21:48 +1100 (EST) Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 10:21:48 +1100 From: Edwin Groothuis To: David O'Brien Message-ID: <20041130232148.GC1538@k7.mavetju> References: <41AA785C.5020304@math.missouri.edu> <20041129012340.GA24768@xor.obsecurity.org> <20041129012559.GB1541@k7.mavetju> <20041130230815.GB30089@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041130230815.GB30089@hub.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Beastie X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 23:21:52 -0000 On Tue, Nov 30, 2004 at 11:08:15PM +0000, David O'Brien wrote: > On Mon, Nov 29, 2004 at 12:25:59PM +1100, Edwin Groothuis wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 05:23:40PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 07:16:12PM -0600, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > > > > It is with a little intrepidation that I ask this question, because I > > > > sense that what I am about to ask might push some buttons, or perhaps > > > > bring back some unpleasant memories of those who have asked what I am > > > > going to ask in a less tactful manner. > > > > > > > > I find that the beastie that appears at boot time with FreeBSD 5.3 > > > > mildly bothers me. It is possible for me to edit boot/beastie.4th, but > > > > this gets put back each time I do make installworld. > > > > > > > > Would it be possible to add a variable "show_beastie" to be put in > > > > /boot/loader.conf, which would default to "YES", but users could add in > > > > show_beastie="NO" if they didn't want it, but only want the menu. > > > > > > That option is already there, you didn't look hard enough. > > > > It's not really the easiest option to find kris... > > > > beastie_disable="YES" > > What do you suggest to make it easier? I already knew it has to do with the loader.conf, so I checked it man page of it. I checked the DEFAULT SETTINGS section (because it's an often asked question), and would put it in there: beastie_disable (``NO'') If set to ``YES'', it will not show the ASCII Beastie in the boot menu. -- Edwin Groothuis | Personal website: http://www.mavetju.org edwin@mavetju.org | Weblog: http://weblog.barnet.com.au/edwin/ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 1 00:03:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mx1.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D45E16A4CE for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 00:03:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bobbi.cse.buffalo.edu (bobbi.cse.Buffalo.EDU [128.205.32.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F00BF43D48 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 00:03:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kensmith@FreeBSD.org) Received: from bobbi.cse.buffalo.edu (localhost.cs.Buffalo.EDU [127.0.0.1]) by bobbi.cse.buffalo.edu (8.13.1/8.12.4) with ESMTP id iB103SEl047214 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 19:03:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from kensmith@localhost) by bobbi.cse.buffalo.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id iB103SbE047209 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 19:03:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from kensmith) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 19:03:28 -0500 From: Ken Smith To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20041201000327.GA5048@bobbi.cse.buffalo.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Beginning FreeBSD-4.11 Release Cycle X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 00:03:29 -0000 The release cycle for FreeBSD-4.11 will be starting shortly, with a target release date of January 24th, 2005. A tentative schedule is available, though not all of the dates for the various steps have been set. Throughout the release cycle the schedule will be updated and available here: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.11R/schedule.html This is expected to be the last of the FreeBSD-4.X releases, and is meant to provide current 4.X users with a little more time to migrate to FreeBSD-5.X. It is mostly an accumulation of security and other misc. bugfixes though a few new features have been added since 4.10 was released. For those of you who track the RELENG_4 development branch (which is not recommended for systems that require high reliability - we recommend such systems track the release branch, currently RELENG_4_10 for 4.X) note that branch will shift to being called 4.11-PRERELEASE on December 6th, 2004. Typically the developers get more active the week before a code freeze so this will be your hint to be a bit more cautious during that time. Problems like catching a snapshot of the source tree "between commits" and that sort of thing become more likely during that week. -ken From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 1 01:09:05 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68EC516A4CE for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 01:09:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail6.speakeasy.net (mail6.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3021F43D5C for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 01:09:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jmg@hydrogen.funkthat.com) Received: (qmail 20045 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2004 01:09:04 -0000 Received: from gate.funkthat.com (HELO hydrogen.funkthat.com) ([69.17.45.168]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 1 Dec 2004 01:09:04 -0000 Received: from hydrogen.funkthat.com (ryjgxw@localhost.funkthat.com [127.0.0.1])iB1193GH040924; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 17:09:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmg@hydrogen.funkthat.com) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by hydrogen.funkthat.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id iB11907x040923; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 17:09:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 17:09:00 -0800 From: John-Mark Gurney To: Edwin Groothuis Message-ID: <20041201010900.GG19624@funkthat.com> Mail-Followup-To: Edwin Groothuis , David O'Brien , stable@freebsd.org References: <41AA785C.5020304@math.missouri.edu> <20041129012340.GA24768@xor.obsecurity.org> <20041129012559.GB1541@k7.mavetju> <20041130230815.GB30089@hub.freebsd.org> <20041130232148.GC1538@k7.mavetju> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041130232148.GC1538@k7.mavetju> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ X-Resume: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/resume.html cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG cc: David O'Brien Subject: Re: Beastie X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 01:09:05 -0000 Edwin Groothuis wrote this message on Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 10:21 +1100: > On Tue, Nov 30, 2004 at 11:08:15PM +0000, David O'Brien wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 29, 2004 at 12:25:59PM +1100, Edwin Groothuis wrote: > > > On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 05:23:40PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > > That option is already there, you didn't look hard enough. > > > > > > It's not really the easiest option to find kris... > > > > > > beastie_disable="YES" > > > > What do you suggest to make it easier? > > I already knew it has to do with the loader.conf, so I checked it > man page of it. I checked the DEFAULT SETTINGS section (because > it's an often asked question), and would put it in there: > > beastie_disable > (``NO'') If set to ``YES'', it will not show the ASCII > Beastie in the boot menu. I don't see how it's much different than all the options listed in /etc/defaults/rc.conf, it's clearly listed in /boot/defaults/loader.conf.. Though a man page entry is useful... -- John-Mark Gurney Voice: +1 415 225 5579 "All that I will do, has been done, All that I have, has not." From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 1 01:47:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E98A516A4CE for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 01:47:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 975ED43D4C for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 01:47:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from robbak@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so898424wra for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 17:47:18 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=GLONX8PhfBB40mtfw6LoEHD5d0mzAkfgVyvIJgje0CDxx2ZPcuAqkryoXJ30+ePSsUoIXT4VxfE9tftKz1n3dTMgYFdCWVbbSNIEU8RgXVl3yPL2W7TvxnGcyrDi1IDaiq3f5qSARoV+KUGocI7NbAM0RoVjLj7Poqu7jltDivU= Received: by 10.54.27.9 with SMTP id a9mr400428wra; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 17:47:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.14.79 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 17:47:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 12:47:17 +1100 From: Robert Backhaus To: vman@tmok.com In-Reply-To: <20041130223005.GA700@fx.homeunix.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20041130093638.A41725@tmok.com> <44u0r756zo.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <20041130223005.GA700@fx.homeunix.org> cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problem with the CD driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Robert Backhaus List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 01:47:19 -0000 Is that the full train of error messages? I have a similar problem that begins with a DONEDRQ warning. I'll be posting my own PR on it tonight if none of the bsdforums crowd can come up with anything. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 1 02:38:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F42B16A4CE; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 02:38:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from CPE000103d44c07-CM000f9f7ae88c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com (CPE000103d44c07-CM000f9f7ae88c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.193.222.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22BF543D41; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 02:38:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mikej@rogers.com) Received: from 172.16.0.1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) with ESMTP id 9920B29585A; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 21:38:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from 172.16.0.200 (SquirrelMail authenticated user mikej); by 172.16.0.1 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 21:38:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <1988.172.16.0.200.1101868699.squirrel@172.16.0.200> In-Reply-To: <20041130230659.GA30089@hub.freebsd.org> References: <4013.172.16.0.200.1101790160.squirrel@172.16.0.200> <41AC1A0D.1020705@speakeasy.net> <4460.172.16.0.200.1101798279.squirrel@172.16.0.200> <6.2.0.14.2.20041130110542.03fdced0@gid.co.uk> <20041130230659.GA30089@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 21:38:19 -0500 (EST) From: "Mike Jakubik" To: obrien@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-wettoast-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-wettoast-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: mikej@rogers.com cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No RAID for VT8237? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 02:38:26 -0000 David O'Brien said: > There are many new SATA "RAID" controllers that our ATA driver doesn't > yet understand the metadata. Soren is working on support for these newer > chipsets. Understood, but what im saying is that a list of supported ones would be very useful when trying to decide what hardware to buy. The chipsets are listed as supported in the ata man page, while there is no ar man page, and no information in the hardware notes. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 1 03:35:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B4D516A4CE for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 03:35:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vscan01.westnet.com.au (vscan01.westnet.com.au [203.10.1.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1394F43D55 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 03:35:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from christopher@nu.org) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id 679564FE3F for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 11:35:51 +0800 (WST) Received: from vscan01.westnet.com.au ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (vscan01.westnet.com.au [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02900-19 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 11:35:51 +0800 (WST) Received: from anembo.nu.org (dsl-202-173-130-73.nsw.westnet.com.au [202.173.130.73]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by vscan01.westnet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03AD96BE37 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 11:35:50 +0800 (WST) Received: from anembo.nu.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by anembo.nu.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iB13ZkLE064637; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 14:35:46 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from christopher@nu.org) Received: (from cjsv@localhost) by anembo.nu.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id iB13ZkC6064636; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 14:35:46 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from christopher@nu.org) Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 14:35:46 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <200412010335.iB13ZkC6064636@anembo.nu.org> X-Authentication-Warning: anembo.nu.org: cjsv set sender to christopher@nu.org using -f From: Christopher Vance To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA timed out X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 03:35:53 -0000 When I use SATA disks heavily on a 5.3-R machine (Athlon) with the SiI3512 disk controller, I get frequent (sometimes one every 1-5 minutes) WRITE_DMA timed out messages (with different blocks and both disks). It also panics with more than one kind of panic, and sometimes doesn't even get to finish the background fsck from the previous panic before dying again. Given that both disks get the WRITE_DMA messages, and the one with the OS on didn't have any problems when used with a VIA controller in a different machine, I tend to think it's either the controller or the software driving it. Would I have any joy upgrading along 5-STABLE, perhaps after I move the disk back to the machine that works, or won't that make any difference? (As in, are there any relevant ata changes since then?) I've already tried setting both hw.ata.ata_dma and hw.ata.wc to 0, but I still get these timeouts. -- Frustrated in Sydney From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 1 04:52:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CA9616A4CE for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 04:52:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ox.eicat.ca (ox.eicat.ca [66.96.30.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6E6E43D49 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 04:52:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Mykel@mWare.ca) Received: from [10.100.104.31] (unknown [66.96.18.6]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ox.eicat.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14DDFC941; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 23:52:39 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <41AD4E00.5060707@mWare.ca> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 23:52:16 -0500 From: Mykel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040618 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christopher Vance References: <200412010335.iB13ZkC6064636@anembo.nu.org> In-Reply-To: <200412010335.iB13ZkC6064636@anembo.nu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA timed out X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 04:52:40 -0000 Christopher Vance wrote: >When I use SATA disks heavily on a 5.3-R machine (Athlon) with the >SiI3512 disk controller, I get frequent (sometimes one every 1-5 >minutes) WRITE_DMA timed out messages (with different blocks and both >disks). > >It also panics with more than one kind of panic, and sometimes doesn't >even get to finish the background fsck from the previous panic before >dying again. > >Given that both disks get the WRITE_DMA messages, and the one with the >OS on didn't have any problems when used with a VIA controller in a >different machine, I tend to think it's either the controller or the >software driving it. > >Would I have any joy upgrading along 5-STABLE, perhaps after I move >the disk back to the machine that works, or won't that make any >difference? (As in, are there any relevant ata changes since then?) > >I've already tried setting both hw.ata.ata_dma and hw.ata.wc to 0, but >I still get these timeouts. > I don't have any solutions for you, but I'm curious to know what kind of drives you're using... apparently SiI 3114s aren't so good with bridged (PATA<->SATA) connections, and Seagates are mostly native... On my setup (SiI3112+Seagate), I get WRITE_DMA timeo's a few times a day. Never had panics as result of the SATA tho. atapci1@pci0:13:0: class=0x018001 card=0x02509005 chip=0x31121095 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Silicon Image Inc (Was: CMD Technology Inc)' device = 'SiI 3112 SATARaid Controller' class = mass storage ATA channel 2: Master: ad4 ATA/ATAPI rev 6 Slave: no device present I don't even use it very heavily, it's *just* for my .oggs. Nothing else. It sucks. We're presently looking at 3Ware and others for a heavy duty network setup we're doing... hoping we can make the SiIs work instead of dropping a few grand on 3Wares... :\ but I'm not confident the SiIs are good for anything important. Myke From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 1 05:29:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C93A16A71C for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 05:29:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from CPE000103d44c07-CM000f9f7ae88c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com (CPE000103d44c07-CM000f9f7ae88c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.193.222.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 700EE43D5F for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 05:29:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mikej@rogers.com) Received: from 172.16.0.1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) with ESMTP id EFBE329544F for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 00:29:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from 172.16.0.200 (SquirrelMail authenticated user mikej); by 172.16.0.1 with HTTP; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 00:29:40 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3097.172.16.0.200.1101878980.squirrel@172.16.0.200> Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 00:29:40 -0500 (EST) From: "Mike Jakubik" To: stable@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-wettoast-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-wettoast-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: mikej@rogers.com Subject: ACPI errors on GigaByte GA-K8VM800M X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 05:29:49 -0000 Hi, I am getting the following errors on the GigaByte GA-K8VM800M Motherboard. The system seems to run fine however. Latest BIOS installed. --- Copyright (c) 1992-2004 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE #0: Fri Nov 5 03:50:01 UTC 2004 root@fanboy.samsco.home:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC ACPI APIC Table: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 2800+ (1799.95-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0xfc0 Stepping = 0 Features=0x78bfbff AMD Features=0xe0500800 real memory = 469696512 (447 MB) avail memory = 442269696 (421 MB) ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) ACPI-0502: *** Error: Handler for [SystemMemory] returned AE_AML_ALIGNMENT ACPI-1303: *** Error: Method execution failed [\\_SB_.MEM_._CRS] (Node 0xffffff00009b0cc0), AE_AML_ALIGNMENT ACPI-0239: *** Error: Method execution failed [\\_SB_.MEM_._CRS] (Node 0xffffff00009b0cc0), AE_AML_ALIGNMENT can't fetch resources for \\_SB_.MEM_ - AE_AML_ALIGNMENT ACPI-0502: *** Error: Handler for [SystemMemory] returned AE_AML_ALIGNMENT ACPI-1303: *** Error: Method execution failed [\\_SB_.PCI0._CRS] (Node 0xffffff00009b09c0), AE_AML_ALIGNMENT ACPI-0239: *** Error: Method execution failed [\\_SB_.PCI0._CRS] (Node 0xffffff00009b09c0), AE_AML_ALIGNMENT can't fetch resources for \\_SB_.PCI0 - AE_AML_ALIGNMENT Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x4008-0x400b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 acpi_button0: on acpi0 pcib0: on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 ACPI-0502: *** Error: Handler for [SystemMemory] returned AE_AML_ALIGNMENT ACPI-1303: *** Error: Method execution failed [\\_SB_.PCI0._CRS] (Node 0xffffff00009b09c0), AE_AML_ALIGNMENT ACPI-0239: *** Error: Method execution failed [\\_SB_.PCI0._CRS] (Node 0xffffff00009b09c0), AE_AML_ALIGNMENT ACPI-0502: *** Error: Handler for [SystemMemory] returned AE_AML_ALIGNMENT ACPI-1303: *** Error: Method execution failed [\\_SB_.PCI0._CRS] (Node 0xffffff00009b09c0), AE_AML_ALIGNMENT ACPI-0239: *** Error: Method execution failed [\\_SB_.PCI0._CRS] (Node 0xffffff00009b09c0), AE_AML_ALIGNMENT ACPI-0502: *** Error: Handler for [SystemMemory] returned AE_AML_ALIGNMENT ACPI-1303: *** Error: Method execution failed [\\_SB_.PCI0._CRS] (Node 0xffffff00009b09c0), AE_AML_ALIGNMENT ACPI-0239: *** Error: Method execution failed [\\_SB_.PCI0._CRS] (Node 0xffffff00009b09c0), AE_AML_ALIGNMENT ACPI-0502: *** Error: Handler for [SystemMemory] returned AE_AML_ALIGNMENT ACPI-1303: *** Error: Method execution failed [\\_SB_.PCI0._CRS] (Node 0xffffff00009b09c0), AE_AML_ALIGNMENT ACPI-0239: *** Error: Method execution failed [\\_SB_.PCI0._CRS] (Node 0xffffff00009b09c0), AE_AML_ALIGNMENT ACPI-0502: *** Error: Handler for [SystemMemory] returned AE_AML_ALIGNMENT ACPI-1303: *** Error: Method execution failed [\\_SB_.PCI0._CRS] (Node 0xffffff00009b09c0), AE_AML_ALIGNMENT ACPI-0239: *** Error: Method execution failed [\\_SB_.PCI0._CRS] (Node 0xffffff00009b09c0), AE_AML_ALIGNMENT ACPI-0502: *** Error: Handler for [SystemMemory] returned AE_AML_ALIGNMENT ACPI-1303: *** Error: Method execution failed [\\_SB_.PCI0._CRS] (Node 0xffffff00009b09c0), AE_AML_ALIGNMENT ACPI-0239: *** Error: Method execution failed [\\_SB_.PCI0._CRS] (Node 0xffffff00009b09c0), AE_AML_ALIGNMENT ACPI-0502: *** Error: Handler for [SystemMemory] returned AE_AML_ALIGNMENT ACPI-1303: *** Error: Method execution failed [\\_SB_.PCI0._CRS] (Node 0xffffff00009b09c0), AE_AML_ALIGNMENT ACPI-0239: *** Error: Method execution failed [\\_SB_.PCI0._CRS] (Node 0xffffff00009b09c0), AE_AML_ALIGNMENT ACPI-0502: *** Error: Handler for [SystemMemory] returned AE_AML_ALIGNMENT ACPI-1303: *** Error: Method execution failed [\\_SB_.PCI0._CRS] (Node 0xffffff00009b09c0), AE_AML_ALIGNMENT ACPI-0239: *** Error: Method execution failed [\\_SB_.PCI0._CRS] (Node 0xffffff00009b09c0), AE_AML_ALIGNMENT ACPI-0502: *** Error: Handler for [SystemMemory] returned AE_AML_ALIGNMENT ACPI-1303: *** Error: Method execution failed [\\_SB_.PCI0._CRS] (Node 0xffffff00009b09c0), AE_AML_ALIGNMENT ACPI-0239: *** Error: Method execution failed [\\_SB_.PCI0._CRS] (Node 0xffffff00009b09c0), AE_AML_ALIGNMENT ACPI-0502: *** Error: Handler for [SystemMemory] returned AE_AML_ALIGNMENT ACPI-1303: *** Error: Method execution failed [\\_SB_.PCI0._CRS] (Node 0xffffff00009b09c0), AE_AML_ALIGNMENT ACPI-0239: *** Error: Method execution failed [\\_SB_.PCI0._CRS] (Node 0xffffff00009b09c0), AE_AML_ALIGNMENT ACPI-0502: *** Error: Handler for [SystemMemory] returned AE_AML_ALIGNMENT ACPI-1303: *** Error: Method execution failed [\\_SB_.PCI0._CRS] (Node 0xffffff00009b09c0), AE_AML_ALIGNMENT ACPI-0239: *** Error: Method execution failed [\\_SB_.PCI0._CRS] (Node 0xffffff00009b09c0), AE_AML_ALIGNMENT ACPI-0502: *** Error: Handler for [SystemMemory] returned AE_AML_ALIGNMENT ACPI-1303: *** Error: Method execution failed [\\_SB_.PCI0._CRS] (Node 0xffffff00009b09c0), AE_AML_ALIGNMENT ACPI-0239: *** Error: Method execution failed [\\_SB_.PCI0._CRS] (Node 0xffffff00009b09c0), AE_AML_ALIGNMENT pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) atapci0: port 0xe400-0xe4ff,0xe000-0xe00f,0xdc00-0xdc03,0xd800-0xd807,0xd400-0xd403,0xd000-0xd007 irq 20 at device 15.0 on pci0 ata2: channel #0 on atapci0 ata3: channel #1 on atapci0 atapci1: port 0xe800-0xe80f,0x376,0x170-0x177,0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 15.1 on pci0 ata0: channel #0 on atapci1 ata1: channel #1 on atapci1 isab0: at device 17.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 rl0: port 0xec00-0xecff mem 0xea000000-0xea0000ff irq 18 at device 19.0 on pci0 miibus0: on rl0 rlphy0: on miibus0 rlphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto rl0: Ethernet address: 00:0f:ea:31:2d:71 fdc0: port 0x3f7,0x3f0-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: [FAST] fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0: port may not be enabled sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A sio1: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on acpi0 sio1: type 16550A ppc0: port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on acpi0 ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode ppbus0: on ppc0 plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 atkbdc0: port 0x64,0x60 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xc7fff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounter "TSC" frequency 1799954748 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 0.976 msec ad4: 190782MB [387621/16/63] at ata2-master SATA150 ad6: 190782MB [387621/16/63] at ata3-master SATA150 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad4s1a Thanks. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 1 05:37:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 148BC16A4CE for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 05:37:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA24443D5A for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 05:37:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iB15blRw003763; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 21:37:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id iB15bkDe003758; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 21:37:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 21:37:46 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Mike Jakubik Message-ID: <20041201053746.GA3642@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <4013.172.16.0.200.1101790160.squirrel@172.16.0.200> <41AC1A0D.1020705@speakeasy.net> <4460.172.16.0.200.1101798279.squirrel@172.16.0.200> <6.2.0.14.2.20041130110542.03fdced0@gid.co.uk> <20041130230659.GA30089@hub.freebsd.org> <1988.172.16.0.200.1101868699.squirrel@172.16.0.200> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1988.172.16.0.200.1101868699.squirrel@172.16.0.200> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No RAID for VT8237? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 05:37:49 -0000 On Tue, Nov 30, 2004 at 09:38:19PM -0500, Mike Jakubik wrote: > David O'Brien said: > > > There are many new SATA "RAID" controllers that our ATA driver doesn't > > yet understand the metadata. Soren is working on support for these newer > > chipsets. > > Understood, but what im saying is that a list of supported ones would be > very useful when trying to decide what hardware to buy. The problem is that the RAID metadata isn't identical for all motherboards that use the same SATA controller -- it is dependent on the BIOS also. For instance, I have an Iwill DK8X that has a Silicon Image 3114 controller. On many motherboards using the SiI 3114 FreeBSD knows the RAID metadata, however on this motherboard FreeBSD doesn't -- because my BIOS does things differently than other motherboards with a SiI 3114. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 1 06:24:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8DC116A4CE for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 06:24:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fx.homeunix.org (194.105.96.29.cablesurf.de [194.105.96.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAFB043D31 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 06:24:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vman@fx.homeunix.org) Received: from fx.homeunix.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fx.homeunix.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iB16OWgl001153; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 07:24:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from vman@fx.homeunix.org) Received: (from vman@localhost) by fx.homeunix.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id iB16OWNj001152; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 07:24:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from vman) Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 07:24:32 +0100 From: Vlad Manilici To: stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041201062431.GA1106@fx.homeunix.org> References: <20041130093638.A41725@tmok.com> <44u0r756zo.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <20041130223005.GA700@fx.homeunix.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: robbak@gmail.com Subject: Re: problem with the CD driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: vman@tmok.com List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 06:24:42 -0000 Hi Robert, > Is that the full train of error messages? I have a similar problem > that begins with a DONEDRQ warning. I'll be posting my own PR on it > tonight if none of the bsdforums crowd can come up with anything. Yes, that's all. \Vlad From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 1 07:20:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 745DA16A4D0 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 07:20:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from linda-2.paradise.net.nz (bm-2a.paradise.net.nz [202.0.58.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E141343D4C for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 07:20:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from markir@paradise.net.nz) Received: from smtp-2.paradise.net.nz (smtp-2b.paradise.net.nz [202.0.32.211]) by linda-2.paradise.net.nz (Paradise.net.nz) with ESMTP id <0I810038T8DCA0@linda-2.paradise.net.nz> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 01 Dec 2004 20:20:08 +1300 (NZDT) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (218-101-13-183.paradise.net.nz [218.101.13.183]) by smtp-2.paradise.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEF8D9E807; Wed, 01 Dec 2004 20:19:34 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 20:22:40 +1300 From: Mark Kirkwood In-reply-to: <41AB821A.6060305@paradise.net.nz> To: Mark Kirkwood Message-id: <41AD7140.70509@paradise.net.nz> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041016 References: <41AACD27.6030506@paradise.net.nz> <41AB44E9.80904@cbrworld.com> <20041129161318.GR12622@crom.vickiandstacey.com> <41AB4E3A.5040604@cbrworld.com> <41AB821A.6060305@paradise.net.nz> cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org cc: Chris Wall cc: stacey@vickiandstacey.com Subject: Re: Cannot install 5.3 on tyan tiger 133 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 07:20:10 -0000 Mark Kirkwood wrote: > > > After reading of your experiences, the following scenarios suggest > themselves: > > - Booting from cd with the Promise TX2000 Raid card removed > - Booting from cd with 1 cpu removed (with or without the TX2000) > - (Assuming some of the above work) Moving the TX2000 to a different > PCI slot and booting > Well that was interesting: - Removed the Promise TX2000, boots from the cd fine! (ahhh) - Moved the TX2000 from PCI 3 -> PCI 6. Boots from the cd fine. - Put cover back on, won't boot from cd (growl). - Replace infra-red mouse with standard 2 button mouse. Boots from cd fine. So, hmm, not sure exactly what did the trick, but so far I have managed to install the 'mininal' distribution set and boot normally. I will post an update on the final state of affairs, but so far so good. Thanks for the replies - made me think! regards Mark From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 1 08:13:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4326116A4CE; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 08:13:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from c3po.barnesos.net (c3po.LPL.arizona.edu [128.196.64.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD8F343D53; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 08:13:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jbarnes@barnesos.net) Received: by c3po.barnesos.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 64559B878; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 01:13:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c3po.barnesos.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E433B86F; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 01:13:20 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 01:13:20 -0700 (MST) From: "Jason W. Barnes" To: questions@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20041128085127.L33956@conch.corp.verio.net> Message-ID: <20041201011145.X8924@c3po.barnesos.net> References: <20041128014254.F28418@c3po.barnesos.net> <20041128085127.L33956@conch.corp.verio.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: Wayne Barnes Subject: Re: maestro3 sound problem on Dell Inspiron 4000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 08:13:21 -0000 > > I have been unable to get sound to work on my Dell Inspiron 4000 > > under FreeBSD 5.3. Until last Tuesday I was running 4-STABLE, under which > > sound would work, but only after I had put the computer to sleep (zzz), > > and then brought it back up. Before that, any attempt to play sound > > resulted in an application that thought it was playing sound, but no > > actual audio emanations from the laptop. > > I have the same sound chip on a dell 8000. I used to have kick the sound driver > under 4.x by running mixer 0 followed by mixer 60. In other words, turn the > volume to 0 and then put it back to the level I normally used. I have also used > the the trick of unloading the module and then loading it again. I don't know > if these will help in 5.3. Awesome, thanks for your help. Jiggering with unloading and reloading the snd_maestro3 kernel module, followed by a 'mixer 75' in various combinations does seem to eventually work. - J From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 1 08:34:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 975A816A4CE for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 08:34:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fmx4.freemail.hu (fmx4.freemail.hu [195.228.242.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2B4CA43D41 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 08:34:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kovacspeter2@freemail.hu) Received: (qmail 6345 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2004 09:34:38 +0100 Received: from fm11.freemail.hu (195.228.242.211) by fmx4.freemail.hu with SMTP; 1 Dec 2004 09:34:38 +0100 Received: (qmail 50275 invoked by uid 3421979); 1 Dec 2004 09:34:38 +0100 Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 09:34:38 +0100 (CET) From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Kov=E1cs_P=E9ter?= To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [81.182.238.57] X-HTTP-User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; hu-HU; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041108 Firefox/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-2 Subject: DNS timeouts X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 08:34:45 -0000 Hello, I have asked a similar question regarding to this issue, but so far no solutions were made. Please help me. I have a FreeBSD 4-STABLE box with udp.log_in_vain enabled. Since the computer has 3 IP’s and only one network card (virtual hosts) it should resolve names pretty fast (lot’s of services). So I got these error messages: Connection attempt to UDP FreeBSD Box:4320 from DNS:53 Connection attempt to UDP FreeBSD Box:1363 from DNS:53 This is because the DNS lookups are timing out. So I had set up a DNS server on the FreeBSD itself for the errors to stop. I just have no luck with it. The same errors come up. I just simply can’t understand how this time out could happen if it goes on localhost. And the DNS is not overloaded. I also tried to edit the /etc/resolv.conf file and add a „lookup file bind „ line but I think this is not supported in FreeBSD. At least it’s not in the manual and it didn’t help. What can I do? I don’t want to disable udp.log_in_vain! Thanks, Peter From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 1 12:14:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2B4B16A4CE for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 12:14:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from steeltoe.niceboots.com (steeltoe.niceboots.com [66.117.154.154]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C90943D31 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 12:14:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tenebrae_BSD@niceboots.com) Received: from steeltoe.niceboots.com (tenebrae@localhost [127.0.0.1]) iB1CM6GT096513; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 04:22:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tenebrae_BSD@niceboots.com) Received: from localhost (tenebrae@localhost)iB1CM5i5096510; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 04:22:05 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: steeltoe.niceboots.com: tenebrae owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 04:22:05 -0800 (PST) From: Tenebrae X-X-Sender: tenebrae@localhost To: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Kov=E1cs_P=E9ter?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20041201041106.E96430@localhost> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DNS timeouts X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 12:14:58 -0000 On Wed, 1 Dec 2004, [ISO-8859-2] Kov=E1cs P=E9ter wrote: > Hello, > > > I have asked a similar question regarding to this issue, but > so far no solutions were made. Please help me. > > I have a FreeBSD 4-STABLE box with udp.log_in_vain enabled. > Since the computer has 3 IP’s and only one network card > (virtual hosts) it should resolve names pretty fast (lot’s > of services). > So I got these error messages: > Connection attempt to UDP FreeBSD Box:4320 from DNS:53 > Connection attempt to UDP FreeBSD Box:1363 from DNS:53 > This is because the DNS lookups are timing out. So I had set > up a DNS server on the FreeBSD itself for the errors to stop. > > I just have no luck with it. The same errors come up. I just > simply can’t understand how this time out could happen if it > goes on localhost. And the DNS is not overloaded. > > I also tried to edit the /etc/resolv.conf file and add a > „lookup file bind > „ line but I think this is not supported in FreeBSD. At > least it’s not in the manual and it didn’t help. > > What can I do? I don’t want to disable udp.log_in_vain! Hey Peter, I did a google search and found this thread on the freebsd-security list: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-security/2003-April/000127.html Does that look about right? Crist J. Clark had a good summary at the end of the thread with what appears to be causing it. You don't really include any information about your DNS setup that could be useful for troubleshooting that, though. What DNS server/version are you running? Bind 8 or 9 maybe? I think what you may have been looking for was the /etc/host.conf file. Hope this is useful. =09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09-Tenebrae. --- The sending of any unsolicited email advertising messages to this domain may result in the imposition of civil liability against you in accordance with Cal. Bus. & Prof. Code Section 17538.45. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 1 12:56:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAB4916A4CE for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 12:56:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from farside.isc.org (farside.isc.org [204.152.187.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B031243D1F for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 12:56:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Mark_Andrews@isc.org) Received: from drugs.dv.isc.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by farside.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0588567502 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 12:56:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marka@isc.org) Received: from drugs.dv.isc.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by drugs.dv.isc.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iB1Cu5SE037512; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 23:56:05 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from marka@drugs.dv.isc.org) Message-Id: <200412011256.iB1Cu5SE037512@drugs.dv.isc.org> To: Tenebrae From: Mark Andrews In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 01 Dec 2004 04:22:05 -0800." <20041201041106.E96430@localhost> Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 23:56:05 +1100 Sender: Mark_Andrews@isc.org cc: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Kov=E1cs_P=E9ter?= cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DNS timeouts X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 12:56:10 -0000 > On Wed, 1 Dec 2004, [ISO-8859-2] Kovács Péter wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > I have asked a similar question regarding to this issue, but > > so far no solutions were made. Please help me. > > > > I have a FreeBSD 4-STABLE box with udp.log_in_vain enabled. > > Since the computer has 3 IP’s and only one network card > > (virtual hosts) it should resolve names pretty fast (lot’s > > of services). > > So I got these error messages: > > Connection attempt to UDP FreeBSD Box:4320 from DNS:53 > > Connection attempt to UDP FreeBSD Box:1363 from DNS:53 > > This is because the DNS lookups are timing out. So I had set > > up a DNS server on the FreeBSD itself for the errors to stop. > > > > I just have no luck with it. The same errors come up. I just > > simply can’t understand how this time out could happen if it > > goes on localhost. And the DNS is not overloaded. > > > > I also tried to edit the /etc/resolv.conf file and add a > > „lookup file bind > > „ line but I think this is not supported in FreeBSD. At > > least it’s not in the manual and it didn’t help. > > > > What can I do? I don’t want to disable udp.log_in_vain! You ignore them. They won't go away as they are part and parcel of the tradeoffs made in the design of the DNS. > Hey Peter, > I did a google search and found this thread on the freebsd-security list: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-security/2003-April/000127.html > > Does that look about right? > Crist J. Clark had a good summary at the end of the thread with what > appears to be causing it. > > You don't really include any information about your DNS setup that could > be useful for troubleshooting that, though. > What DNS server/version are you running? Bind 8 or 9 maybe? > I think what you may have been looking for was the /etc/host.conf file. > Hope this is useful. > -Tenebrae. > --- > The sending of any unsolicited email advertising messages to this domain > may result in the imposition of civil liability against you in accordance > with Cal. Bus. & Prof. Code Section 17538.45. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: Mark_Andrews@isc.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 1 13:05:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DC4D16A4CE for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 13:05:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from edpnet.org (lmail02.edpnet.be [212.71.0.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BD0D43D53 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 13:05:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc.plumet@edpnet.be) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (unverified [212.254.44.247]) 3386705 for ; Wed, 01 Dec 2004 14:05:07 +0100 From: Marc Plumet To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 14:05:34 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412011405.34902.marc.plumet@edpnet.be> X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Authenticated-User: TL.Plumet@edpnet.org X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 2, in=13, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 212.254.44.247 Subject: Can't find the `5.3-STABLE' distribution on this FTP server. X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: marc.plumet@edpnet.be List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 13:05:24 -0000 Dear, Here is the message I get when I try to go to the package's sites. I can try ANY sites, the message is always the same. Is it impossible to install new applications with the package's system after a cvs upgrade ? with ports, no problem, but I don't want to compile gimp. x Warning: Can't find the `5.3-STABLE' distribution on this x x FTP server. You may need to visit a different server for x x the release you are trying to fetch or go to the Options x x menu and to set the release name to explicitly match what's x x available on ftp.freebsd.org (or set to "any"). x Here is a description about my system: - I install the freebsd 5_3 release as soon as 5_3 was out: kern.osreldate: 503001 FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE #0: Tue Nov 9 13:34:27 CET 2004 - I cvsup the ports collection cvsup -g -L 2 /root/ports-supfile (ok) - I upgrade the ports collection pkgdb -F portupgrade -a (14 hours, ok except for mplayer-skins, even with packages : size mismatch) About 15 days ago, I did a cvsup for base and port, then a make world. Now, it's : FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE #0: Mon Nov 22 09:55:05 CET 2004 and I cannot install any application with the "package system". Thanks in advance, Marc Belgium. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 1 13:31:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ADC716A4CE for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 13:31:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.efacilitas.de (efacilitas.de [213.133.110.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7386443D48 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 13:31:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bkoenig@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from mail.alpha-tierchen.de (port-212-202-169-228.dynamic.qsc.de [212.202.169.228]) by mail.efacilitas.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B922123A3C for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 14:31:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost.local [127.0.0.1]) by mail.alpha-tierchen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C090D62C0 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 14:31:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.alpha-tierchen.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.efacilitas.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 84850-08 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 14:31:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from alpha (alpha.local [192.168.1.2]) by mail.alpha-tierchen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A38562BF for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 14:31:07 +0100 (CET) From: =?utf-8?B?QmrDtnJuIEvDtm5pZw==?= To: Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 14:31:48 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <200412011405.34902.marc.plumet@edpnet.be> Thread-Index: AcTXptdOvXBmJo70QJ6FWOlejkcQ/wAAzNHA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Message-Id: <20041201133107.7A38562BF@mail.alpha-tierchen.de> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at alpha-tierchen.de Subject: RE: Can't find the `5.3-STABLE' distribution on this FTP server. X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 13:31:34 -0000 Either you set the release name in "Options" menu to "5.3-RELEASE" = before going to "Packages" menu or start sysinstall with sysinstall releaseName=3D5.3-RELEASE configPackages Regards Bj=C3=B6rn From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 1 15:49:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08B1816A4CE for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 15:49:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (cpc2-cdif3-6-0-cust204.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.103.67.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AB1943D39 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 15:49:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.43 (FreeBSD)) id 1CZWjG-000HjR-Uu; Wed, 01 Dec 2004 15:49:18 +0000 Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 15:49:18 +0000 From: Ceri Davies To: Willem Jan Withagen Message-ID: <20041201154918.GE60679@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Willem Jan Withagen , stable@freebsd.org References: <20041125205836.GH37244@submonkey.net> <20041130184502.GT60679@submonkey.net> <41ACF67E.6000000@withagen.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="aSM3KCOUSI0G0tph" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41ACF67E.6000000@withagen.nl> X-PGP: finger ceri@FreeBSD.org User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Sender: Ceri Davies cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.10 -> 5.3 migration; what happens to vinum volumes? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 15:49:21 -0000 --aSM3KCOUSI0G0tph Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Nov 30, 2004 at 11:38:54PM +0100, Willem Jan Withagen wrote: > Ceri Davies wrote: > >On Thu, Nov 25, 2004 at 08:58:36PM +0000, Ceri Davies wrote: > > > >>I have a 4.10-STABLE machine that I want to migrate to 5.3-STABLE. Most > >>of the bases are covered, but I'm not sure what to expect for my vinum > >>volumes. I don't have anything esoteric (see attached config), but can > >>I just expect "sed -i.bak -e 's/vinum/gvinum/' /etc/fstab" to leave me > >>with working volumes? > > > >Should I take it that nobody knows, or that nobody wants to say? >=20 > From what I've seen on the lists, I'd be carefull to go that route yet=20 > with doing a full backup of all data. > Lets say that gvinum has still rough edges. But then those only get=20 > smoothed out by people taking the leap. >=20 > There have also been raports on succes. So I guess the reason nobody=20 > replied is just because there is no consensus. Also look in the GEOM@=20 > archive for several threads on this topic. OK, that's something at least. Obviously I'll take a backup anyway but I'm trying to cut down time anywhere I can, so knowing that I have some chance of it working is something at least. Thanks. > For my main fileserver I've stopped at 5.1 at this moment. I need to=20 > test more before I go there, but I can't seem to find mucht time lately.= =20 > It that the customers pay the bills for not playing around. :() Damn those customers and their putting-bread-on-the-table ways ;-) Ceri --=20 Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Einstein (attrib.) --aSM3KCOUSI0G0tph Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBref+ocfcwTS3JF8RAotzAKDDLzQGqAqF4WHihC7CN2ne1VMIxwCffk7g 1lkrKEhysauuVzveo+3LPlg= =d2hO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --aSM3KCOUSI0G0tph-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 1 16:26:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03FB016A4CE for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 16:26:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from portpc-design.spb.ru (ns2.portpc-design.spb.ru [195.161.118.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD79D43D1D for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 16:26:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mcsi@mcsi.pp.ru) Received: from [83.237.195.140] (ppp83-237-195-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru [83.237.195.140]) (authenticated bits=0) by portpc-design.spb.ru (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iB1GQala031286 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 19:26:36 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from mcsi@mcsi.pp.ru) Message-ID: <41ADF0B7.8050406@mcsi.pp.ru> Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 19:26:31 +0300 From: Maxim Maximov User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041112 X-Accept-Language: ru, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: freeze in vm_page_alloc_contig() on boot (sym driver) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 16:26:40 -0000 Hello. I have Fujitsu-Siemens Primergy L200 server. It is running 5.2-CURRENT at the moment. When I tried to upgrade it to 5.3-STABLE, new kernel hung at boot. Luckily, this server has NMI button, so I have hand transcribed stack trace (no serial console, sorry): vm_page_alloc_contig()+0xbe contig_malloc()+0x97 alloc_bounce_pages()+0x60 bus_dmamap_create()+0x103 sym_alloc_ccb()+0x75 sym_pci_attach()+0x6b6 device_attach()+0x58 ... then follows usual probing trace I tried disabling ACPI and APIC with no luck. Below is s dmesg from running 5.2-CURRENT with the pointer where 5.3-STABLE hangs. Is this known problem? Are there workarounds? Copyright (c) 1992-2004 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.2-CURRENT #2: Wed Jun 9 14:45:42 MSD 2004 mcsi@mail3.ezone.ru:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MAIL3 Preloaded elf kernel "/boot/kernel.old/kernel" at 0xc09ca000. Preloaded elf module "/boot/kernel.old/acpi.ko" at 0xc09ca298. Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) III CPU - S 1400MHz (1393.30-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x6b4 Stepping = 4 Features=0x383fbff real memory = 1073741824 (1024 MB) avail memory = 1041207296 (992 MB) random: Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled npx0: [FAST] npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: [GIANT-LOCKED] pcibios: BIOS version 2.10 acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-safe" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <32-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0xf008-0xf00b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 acpi_button0: on acpi0 pcib0: on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pcib0: slot 10 INTA is routed to irq 10 pcib0: slot 11 INTA is routed to irq 9 pci0: at device 4.0 (no driver attached) fxp0: port 0x1400-0x143f mem 0xfc000000-0xfc01ffff,0xfc041000-0xfc041fff irq 10 at device 10.0 on pci0 miibus0: on fxp0 inphy0: on miibus0 inphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto fxp0: Ethernet address: 00:30:05:1f:b3:49 fxp0: [GIANT-LOCKED] fxp1: port 0x1800-0x183f mem 0xfc020000-0xfc03ffff,0xfc042000-0xfc042fff irq 9 at device 11.0 on pci0 miibus1: on fxp1 inphy1: on miibus1 inphy1: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto fxp1: Ethernet address: 00:30:05:1f:ec:6f fxp1: [GIANT-LOCKED] isab0: port 0xf100-0xf10f at device 15.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x1c00-0x1c0f,0x376,0x170-0x177,0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 15.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 pcib1: on acpi0 pci1: on pcib1 pcib1: slot 10 INTA is routed to irq 5 sym0: <1010-66> port 0x2000-0x20ff mem 0xfe000000-0xfe001fff,0xfe002000-0xfe0023ff irq 5 at device 10.0 on pci1 sym0: Symbios NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-80, LVD, parity checking sym0: open drain IRQ line driver, using on-chip SRAM sym0: using LOAD/STORE-based firmware. sym0: handling phase mismatch from SCRIPTS. <--- Here it freezes in 5.3-STABLE. It doesnt output next (GIANT-LOCKED) line. sym0: [GIANT-LOCKED] pcib2: on acpi0 pci2: on pcib2 atkbdc0: port 0x64,0x60 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] fdc0: port 0x3f7,0x3f0-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 sio0 port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on acpi0 sio1: type 16550A orm0: