From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 13 00:12:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93B2C16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 00:12:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rambo.401.cx (rambo.401.cx [80.65.205.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BB8E43D2F for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 00:12:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from listsub@401.cx) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (rocky [192.168.200.2]) by rambo.401.cx (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j1D0CfDC041017; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 01:12:42 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from listsub@401.cx) Message-ID: <420E9BD7.7070008@401.cx> Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 01:14:15 +0100 From: "Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Zumbrunn References: <420E5604.9040401@401.cx><8c411210ef532a4d2d5fd69636632809@czv.com> <420E62DB.5050006@401.cx> <0892bf6a3cf2d8092e296157bbcb6148@czv.com> <5d2c5b3fc02d9bce6613216cb03ecb54@czv.com> In-Reply-To: <5d2c5b3fc02d9bce6613216cb03ecb54@czv.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0506-1, 2005-02-11), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Instead of freebsd.com, why not... X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 00:12:48 -0000 Chris Zumbrunn wrote: > On Feb 12, 2005, at 10:12 PM, Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg wrote: > >> Look at linux, everyone knows the linux penguin, but that doesnt stop >> RedHat, Caldera, Debian etc from having professional looking logos. > > They are all separate entities from Linux. They are independent > companies that offer distributions. They are not Linux - so they can not > claim the Linux logo for themselves. On the other hand, FreeBSD is > FreeBSD and should use the FreeBSD logo: Beastie. In that case, I must argue that the use of the daemon predates FreeBSD by far, and can be seen as a logo for the BSD family as a whole, not to say UNIX as a whole. FreeBSD is not BSD nor UNIX - so it can not claim the Beastie logo for itselves. However, I do not object to somehow incorporate Beastie in the logo to show our heritage. > If Beastie is more representative of the project and its product than > its name, why should we reduce Beastie to a stuffed animal if we can > have Beastie as our logo. If we could rename the entire project to > "Beastie", we probably should ;-) I would not use the word "representative" as I think that is one of the problems with the current logo. It is widely *associated* with BSD, but I would not say that its very *representative* for BSD. A cutting edge operating system like freebsd should have a logo that shows this, not something that makes it look like a toy for teenage hackers. -- R