From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 09:02:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1083716A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 09:02:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6015943D41 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 09:02:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (cicely5.cicely.de [10.1.1.7]) (authenticated bits=0)j0G92QHo045048 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:02:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely12.cicely.de (cicely12.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301::12]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j0G91NU3017650 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:01:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely12.cicely.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cicely12.cicely.de (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0G91MWW062594; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:01:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely12.cicely.de (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j0G91LYe062593; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:01:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:01:21 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: Wilko Bulte Message-ID: <20050116090120.GB57255@cicely12.cicely.de> References: <16866.32790.398095.651691@canoe.dclg.ca> <20050114202618.GA17050@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20050114210716.GA17430@freebie.xs4all.nl> <200501141632.37649.jhb@FreeBSD.org> <20050114224523.GA17854@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20050115084052.GA22832@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20050115090604.GI43380@cicely12.cicely.de> <20050115094833.GA23111@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20050115174943.GB24024@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050115174943.GB24024@freebie.xs4all.nl> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely12.cicely.de 5.2-CURRENT alpha User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 X-Spam-Report: * -4.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% * [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on cicely12.cicely.de cc: ticso@cicely.de cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: processor type. X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 09:02:48 -0000 On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 06:49:43PM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 10:48:33AM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote.. > > On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 10:06:05AM +0100, Bernd Walter wrote.. > > > On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 09:40:53AM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 11:45:23PM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote.. > > > > > NO_CPU_COPTFLAGS=true # Don't add -march= to COPTFLAGS automatically > > > > > > > > > > fixes it on RELENG_4 > > > > > > > > Well, the elapsed wall clock time for a buildworld running an ev5 world > > > > versus running an ev6 world is only roughly 2 or 3 minutes in favor of a ev6 > > > > world on a elapsed time of roughly 75 minutes. This is on a DS10 600MHz > > > > > > > > Not too interesting in my book > > > > > > I wonder if the build environment was compiled using those flags too or > > > just the resulting binaries. > > > > To clarify: my tests were 'make buildworlds'. The first number was while > > building running a EV5 optimised world to do so, the second used the EV6 > > world. > > > > I have not tried to build an EV5 buildworld using the EV6 world > > (so in other words an empty /etc/make.conf). The machine is currently > > churning on RC3 for re@ so I cannot go try it. > > More numbers, this time for a buildrelease of 4.11-RC > > while running an 'ev5 world' 32086.29 real 23579.73 user 3221.72 sys > while running an 'ev6 world' 30268.58 real 22634.77 user 3285.35 sys What I mean is that the buildtools are build without CPUTYPE, so that you can buildworld for a ev6 system on a ev5 machine. You are likely not using special ev6 binaries very long. This is part from an i386 buildworld: cc -O2 -pipe -I. -DIN_GCC -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DPREFIX=\"/usr\" -I/var/d6/obj/var/d7/builder/c30-2005-01-16/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../cc_tools -I/var/d7/builder/c30-2005-01-16/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../cc_tools -I/var/d7/builder/c30-2005-01-16/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcc -I/var/d7/builder/c30-2005-01-16/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcc/config -DGENERATOR_FILE -I/usr/obj/var/d7/builder/c30-2005-01-16/src/i386/legacy/usr/include -c /var/d7/builder/c30-2005-01-16/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcc/genattr.c I have CPUTYPE?=i586 in /etc/make.conf, since the currently build compiler is part of the buildchain it was not used here. And that's the compiler that will have to do the real work later. -- B.Walter BWCT http://www.bwct.de bernd@bwct.de info@bwct.de From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 17 11:02:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D39CE16A4D0 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:02:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A00FE43D1D for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:02:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (peter@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0HB2CxF071146 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:02:12 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j0HB2Bu7071140 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:02:11 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:02:11 GMT Message-Id: <200501171102.j0HB2Bu7071140@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: Current problem reports assigned to you X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:02:13 -0000 Current FreeBSD problem reports Critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2004/12/20] alpha/75317 alpha ATA DMA broken on PCalpha 1 problem total. Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2001/09/10] alpha/30486 alpha AlphaServer DS10 floppy access is broken o [2001/09/10] alpha/30487 alpha Floppy access on AlphaServer DS20 solid l o [2003/02/05] alpha/47952 alpha DEFPA causes machine check with V5.0-rele o [2003/11/10] alpha/59116 alpha [ntfs] mount_ntfs of a Windows 2000-forma o [2004/01/26] alpha/61940 alpha Can't disklabel new disk from FreeBSD/alp o [2004/01/27] alpha/61973 alpha Machine Check on boot-up of AlphaServer 2 f [2004/06/06] alpha/67626 alpha X crashes an alpha machine, resulting reb 7 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2001/01/27] alpha/24663 alpha Console output gets scribbled into /var/l o [2001/02/22] alpha/25284 alpha PC164 won't reboot with graphics console o [2001/06/07] alpha/27930 alpha NE2000 not supported on FreeBSD Alpha 4.x o [2001/06/07] alpha/27933 alpha Time jitter under load on FreeBSD 4.3 alp f [2001/07/29] alpha/29299 alpha FreeBSD 4.3 Alpha + Tekram SCSI adapter p o [2001/10/01] alpha/30970 alpha Ensoniq 1371 (Creative chipset) does not o [2002/01/24] alpha/34232 alpha rpc.statd throws alignment errors o [2002/05/13] alpha/38031 alpha osf1.ko not loaded during boot-time of li p [2002/11/12] alpha/45240 alpha pstat -f column headings misaligned on Al o [2003/02/25] alpha/48676 alpha Changing the baud rate of serial consoles o [2003/04/12] alpha/50868 alpha fd0 floppy device is not mapped into /dev o [2004/05/10] alpha/66478 alpha unexpected machine check: panic for 4.9, o [2004/06/13] alpha/67903 alpha hw.chipset.memory: 1099511627776 - thats 13 problems total. From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 20 08:18:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E36516A4CE for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 08:18:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.nerdshack.com (mail.nerdshack.com [206.123.69.134]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EE5243D70 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 08:18:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rbyrnes@mailshack.com) Received: from cartman.mailshack.com (dialup-122.104.221.203.acc51-kent-syd.comindico.com.au [203.221.104.122]) by mail.nerdshack.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 010838BC030; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 02:18:14 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.2.20050120191806.058f1d68@mail.nerdshack.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 19:18:31 +1100 To: Wilko Bulte From: Rob B In-Reply-To: <20050108142345.GA74797@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20041230151225.GA75928@freebie.xs4all.nl> <6.2.0.14.2.20050108224000.02955a80@mail.nerdshack.com> <20050108142345.GA74797@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Call for testers: please test 4.11-RC1 on your Alpha X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 08:18:19 -0000 At 01:23 AM 9/01/2005, Wilko Bulte wrote: >On Sat, Jan 08, 2005 at 10:41:23PM +1100, Rob B wrote.. > > At 02:12 AM 31/12/2004, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > >Hi > > > > > >We need more testing done on the various Alpha models for > > >the upcoming 4.11 release. > > > > > >Please check out http://people.freebsd.org/~wilko/testhw.html > > >to see what Alpha models have been tested sofar. > > > > > >If you do not have spare disk capacity to do an install onto, > > >by all means at least test a boot into the installer. This > > >ensures we do not end up with uncaught boot / loader problems. > > > > > >The installer as such as works OK in testing sofar. > > > > Are there floppy images of 4.11RC2 available? I can't seem to find them > > thus far. If I can get the floppies, I can boot into the installer on my > > PC64 and Miata. > >I sofar only had uploaded the ISO images. Per your suggestion I am >uploading the ftp bits (these include the floppy images etc) at the moment. > >Please let me know how it goes once the stuff is available. Oh, this is >RC2 that I am uploading right now, not RC1. RC2 floppies boot fine on PC64, installer appears to behave itself. This box is currently runnint 5.3-STABLE do I can't go much further. Cheers, Rob -- The comments & opinions expressed herein are my own and NOT those of my employer, who, if he knew I was sending emails and surfing porno sites, would cut off my gonads and feed them to me for afternoon tea. This is random quote 1006 of 1264. 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