From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 20 04:17:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC26A16A420 for ; Sun, 20 Nov 2005 04:17:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marquis@roble.com) Received: from mx5.roble.com (mx5.roble.com [206.40.34.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF03A43D45 for ; Sun, 20 Nov 2005 04:17:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marquis@roble.com) Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 20:17:33 -0800 (PST) From: Roger Marquis To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20051119120051.39BE216A41F@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20051119200222.V2029@roble.com> References: <20051119120051.39BE216A41F@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: Hardware RAID support? Which controller best to use? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 04:17:34 -0000 Olaf Greve wrote: >> I've had far better luck using SATA over SCSI in the recent couple of years. >> We have several machines setup using FreeBSD and 3Ware RAID 0+1 that routinely >> run with no problems and uptimes of 200 to 300 days at a time. > > Very interesting to know. At present, I myself have a 754 socket AMD > Athlon 64 3.2 GHz (IIRC), running FreeBSD 5.4 release AMD-64, with an > Adaptec 2200S U320 SCSI RAID controller with 4 Maxtor Atlas 10KIV 36GB > drives attached to it in RAID-10 mode. So far it works a charm (though I > too had to effectively downgrade it to U160 due to the lack of 64-bits > PCI slots, grrr). For most applications the MTBF of SATA equals that of SCSI and has for several months now. You can run into maintenance problems by not being able to map-out bad blocks under SATA but then drives with those should be swapped out anyhow. Sadly, the fast LSI SCSI RAID drivers either don't exist for FreeBSD or are not mature. Adaptec SCSI RAID is also not as well supported as some of the SATA RAID cards. The critical difference between SATA and SCSI RAID, aside from price, is performance under load. In this department SCSI still outperforms SATA by a substantial margin. Add 15K drives and FCAL and you're talking night and day. Then again, most servers that need this kind of IO run Solaris and also benefit from all the software (Veritas, Legato, ...) built for it. Most FreeBSD servers, OTOH, will do nicely with SATA. ray@redshift.com wrote: >Basically, you just install the card, boot into the RAID bios >using Alt+3 and then you follow a simple menu to build whatever >type of raid you want. Jeez I wish they wouldn't do that, require ctl or alt keys that is. Alt key menus are worthless through a serial console. -- Roger Marquis Roble Systems Consulting http://www.roble.com/