From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 4 05:01:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA46816A41F for ; Sun, 4 Dec 2005 05:01:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from magikmanv2@cox.net) Received: from eastrmmtao06.cox.net (eastrmmtao06.cox.net [68.230.240.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44E3C43D75 for ; Sun, 4 Dec 2005 05:01:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from magikmanv2@cox.net) Received: from [192.168.1.7] (really [70.161.113.196]) by eastrmmtao06.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20051204045921.VHXV9108.eastrmmtao06.cox.net@[192.168.1.7]> for ; Sat, 3 Dec 2005 23:59:21 -0500 Message-ID: <43927A1D.9090003@cox.net> Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2005 00:09:49 -0500 From: Magikman User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051202) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: FreeBSD 6.0-Release AMD64 3DM2 3ware 7506-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2005 05:01:06 -0000 Hola, I am having some trouble getting 3dm2 up and running on my server. I have installed via the ports and i have also downloaded the software from 3ware's support site. However, none seem to work for me. If anyone has this working, could you tell me what, exactly, i need to do. dmesg: Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE #3: Sat Dec 3 23:12:57 EST 2005 root@ftp.server.local:/usr/src/sys/amd64/compile/SMP Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.80GHz (2800.11-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf41 Stepping = 1 Features=0xbfebfbff Features2=0x641d> AMD Features=0x20100800 Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs real memory = 1073152000 (1023 MB) avail memory = 1028034560 (980 MB) ACPI APIC Table: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 6 cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 7 ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard ioapic1 irqs 24-47 on motherboard ioapic2 irqs 48-71 on motherboard acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) pci_link0: irq 5 on acpi0 pci_link1: irq 10 on acpi0 pci_link2: irq 10 on acpi0 pci_link3: irq 11 on acpi0 pci_link4: irq 0 on acpi0 pci_link5: irq 0 on acpi0 pci_link6: irq 0 on acpi0 pci_link7: irq 11 on acpi0 Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x1008-0x100b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 cpu1: on acpi0 cpu2: on acpi0 cpu3: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pci0: at device 0.1 (no driver attached) pcib1: irq 16 at device 2.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pcib2: irq 16 at device 3.0 on pci0 pci2: on pcib2 pcib3: at device 0.0 on pci2 pci3: on pcib3 pci2: at device 0.1 (no driver attached) pcib4: at device 0.2 on pci2 pci4: on pcib4 twe0: <3ware Storage Controller. Driver version 1.50.01.002> port 0x2040-0x204f mem 0xd0800000-0xd0ffffff irq 48 at device 1.0 on pci4 twe0: [GIANT-LOCKED] twe0: 8 ports, Firmware FE7X 1.05.00.068, BIOS BE7X 1.08.00.048 em0: port 0x2000-0x203f mem 0xd0220000-0xd023ffff irq 54 at device 2.0 on pci4 em0: Ethernet address: 00:30:48:25:bd:a2 em0: Speed:N/A Duplex:N/A pci2: at device 0.3 (no driver attached) pcib5: irq 16 at device 4.0 on pci0 pci5: on pcib5 pci5: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) pci5: at device 0.1 (no driver attached) uhci0: port 0x1840-0x185f irq 16 at device 29.0 on pci0 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0x1860-0x187f irq 19 at device 29.1 on pci0 uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2: port 0x1880-0x189f irq 18 at device 29.2 on pci0 uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb2: on uhci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci3: port 0x18a0-0x18bf irq 16 at device 29.3 on pci0 uhci3: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb3: on uhci3 usb3: USB revision 1.0 uhub3: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci0: mem 0xd0000000-0xd00003ff irq 23 at device 29.7 on pci0 ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb4: EHCI version 1.0 usb4: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2 usb3 usb4: on ehci0 usb4: USB revision 2.0 uhub4: Intel EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub4: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered pcib6: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci6: on pcib6 isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x18e0-0x18ef at device 31.1 on pci0 ata0: on atapci0 ata1: on atapci0 pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 31.5 (no driver attached) acpi_button0: on acpi0 atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: model IntelliMouse, device ID 3 ppc0: port 0x378-0x37f,0x778-0x77f irq 7 drq 3 on acpi0 ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/9 bytes threshold ppbus0: on ppc0 orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xccfff,0xcd000-0xcdfff,0xce000-0xcefff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec ad0: 76319MB at ata0-master UDMA100 acd0: DVDROM at ata1-master UDMA33 twed0: on twe0 twed0: 1361360MB (2788065280 sectors) SMP: AP CPU #3 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched! Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a em0: link state changed to UP Thanks, Magikman From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 4 22:50:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C36F16A41F for ; Sun, 4 Dec 2005 22:50:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C13A343D5C for ; Sun, 4 Dec 2005 22:50:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2198226F6AC for ; Sun, 4 Dec 2005 18:50:51 -0400 (AST) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 54296-01 for ; Sun, 4 Dec 2005 18:50:49 -0400 (AST) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-222-82-85.eastlink.ca [24.222.82.85]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FAA926EACA for ; Sun, 4 Dec 2005 18:50:50 -0400 (AST) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id F110346575; Sun, 4 Dec 2005 18:50:55 -0400 (AST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F042C3C1F1 for ; Sun, 4 Dec 2005 18:50:55 -0400 (AST) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 18:50:55 -0400 (AST) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051204184826.D1077@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hub.org Subject: A stupid 64bit question ... but ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2005 22:50:56 -0000 I recently bought a new Intel Xeon server, and when I put it together, I didn't realize that the newer Xeon's were 64bit ... now, I've just built perl 5.8.7, and its reporting: ================= # perl -v This is perl, v5.8.7 built for i386-freebsd-64int (with 1 registered patch, see perl -V for more detail) Copyright 1987-2005, Larry Wall Perl may be copied only under the terms of either the Artistic License or the GNU General Public License, which may be found in the Perl 5 source kit. Complete documentation for Perl, including FAQ lists, should be found on this system using `man perl' or `perldoc perl'. If you have access to the Internet, point your browser at http://www.perl.org/, the Perl Home Page. ================== I realize that this may be a stupid question, but am I correct in that *this* is a 64bit machine, and I should be enabling the AMD64 stuff on her? Thanks ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 5 02:58:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BF0116A41F for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 02:58:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD20843D49 for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 02:58:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jB52wO2l062339; Sun, 4 Dec 2005 18:58:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.NUXI.org) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id jB52wJmN062337; Sun, 4 Dec 2005 18:58:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 18:58:18 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Nathan Vidican Message-ID: <20051205025818.GA62285@dragon.NUXI.org> References: <20051201172828.5b25fdd4.kgunders@teamcool.net> <4390488A.9060708@wmptl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4390488A.9060708@wmptl.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tyan alternatives cuz their support totally sucks X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 02:58:26 -0000 On Fri, Dec 02, 2005 at 08:13:46AM -0500, Nathan Vidican wrote: > Ken Gunderson wrote: > >Requirements: > >1) Single Opteron should suffice > >2) DDR400 ECC supported > >3) SATA disk subsystem will suffice 2 drive gmirror conf. 4 drive .. > I've always had good experiences with MSI boards/systems... generally well > priced/featured and their support is pretty good. MSI's support of Opteron sucks terribly. They have a strong track record of EOL'ing their Opteron boards by not providing BIOS support when new Opteron come out. Unless you really need 12 DIMM sockets on a dual-cpu (2 processor sockets) motherboard I would never buy an MSI. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 5 03:00:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2A0716A41F for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 03:00:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEAC543D62 for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 03:00:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jB530dR8062407; Sun, 4 Dec 2005 19:00:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.NUXI.org) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id jB530dgl062406; Sun, 4 Dec 2005 19:00:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 19:00:38 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Nathan Vidican Message-ID: <20051205030038.GB62285@dragon.NUXI.org> References: <20051201172828.5b25fdd4.kgunders@teamcool.net> <4390488A.9060708@wmptl.com> <439055CB.2030403@mail.uni-mainz.de> <43909927.8070108@wmptl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43909927.8070108@wmptl.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: "O. Hartmann" , freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tyan alternatives cuz their support totally sucks X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 03:00:41 -0000 On Fri, Dec 02, 2005 at 01:57:43PM -0500, Nathan Vidican wrote: > MSI has a server line as well, including 1U bare-bones, motherboards, > etc... I have 4 dual AMD Opteron boxes here based on MSI K8Master's ... > GREAT board, though must warn they are a bit pricey at ~ $500 - $600 / > each, I have them configured with dual 246 cpu's and 4gb ecc registered And you'll never be able to use anything better than rev.CG (130nm) Opteron 250's in this board due to lack of BIOS support. No PowerNow! either. Every Opteron board Tyan has produced they at least bothered to support rev.E single core. And Tyan supports rev.E dual-core on most of their Opteron boards that was released before dual-core. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 5 03:02:55 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5C1D16A41F for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 03:02:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0392943D49 for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 03:02:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jB532sbS062440; Sun, 4 Dec 2005 19:02:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.NUXI.org) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id jB532r5c062439; Sun, 4 Dec 2005 19:02:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 19:02:53 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: "Marc G. Fournier" Message-ID: <20051205030253.GC62285@dragon.NUXI.org> References: <20051204184826.D1077@ganymede.hub.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051204184826.D1077@ganymede.hub.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A stupid 64bit question ... but ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 03:02:55 -0000 On Sun, Dec 04, 2005 at 06:50:55PM -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > I recently bought a new Intel Xeon server, and when I put it together, I > didn't realize that the newer Xeon's were 64bit ... now, I've just built > perl 5.8.7, and its reporting: > > ================= > # perl -v > This is perl, v5.8.7 built for i386-freebsd-64int .. > I realize that this may be a stupid question, but am I correct in that > *this* is a 64bit machine, and I should be enabling the AMD64 stuff on > her? Perl won't be reporting a 64-bit capable machine, when running a 32-bit OS. Look in /var/run/dmesg for 'AMD Features' to report 'LM' (long mode). -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 5 05:46:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11E9A16A41F; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 05:46:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68DE143D5E; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 05:46:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.144]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44FCA62C841; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 01:46:22 -0400 (AST) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 93570-06; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 01:46:22 -0400 (AST) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-222-82-85.eastlink.ca [24.222.82.85]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D31A862C840; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 01:46:21 -0400 (AST) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 34DF33B329; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 01:46:21 -0400 (AST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3417238BB7; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 01:46:21 -0400 (AST) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 01:46:21 -0400 (AST) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: David O'Brien In-Reply-To: <20051205030253.GC62285@dragon.NUXI.org> Message-ID: <20051205014553.T1077@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20051204184826.D1077@ganymede.hub.org> <20051205030253.GC62285@dragon.NUXI.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hub.org Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A stupid 64bit question ... but ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 05:46:24 -0000 Thanks, neither AMD or LM are found ... oh well, the new server will be EM64T ... was just hoping on this one :) On Sun, 4 Dec 2005, David O'Brien wrote: > On Sun, Dec 04, 2005 at 06:50:55PM -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote: >> >> I recently bought a new Intel Xeon server, and when I put it together, I >> didn't realize that the newer Xeon's were 64bit ... now, I've just built >> perl 5.8.7, and its reporting: >> >> ================= >> # perl -v >> This is perl, v5.8.7 built for i386-freebsd-64int > .. >> I realize that this may be a stupid question, but am I correct in that >> *this* is a 64bit machine, and I should be enabling the AMD64 stuff on >> her? > > Perl won't be reporting a 64-bit capable machine, when running a 32-bit > OS. Look in /var/run/dmesg for 'AMD Features' to report 'LM' (long > mode). > > -- > -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) > > ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 5 07:49:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB9EE16A41F; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 07:49:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martin@gneto.com) Received: from mxfep01.bredband.com (mxfep01.bredband.com [195.54.107.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4B0A43D49; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 07:49:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martin@gneto.com) Received: from ironport.bredband.com ([195.54.107.82] [195.54.107.82]) by mxfep01.bredband.com with ESMTP id <20051205074904.HZHW676.mxfep01.bredband.com@ironport.bredband.com>; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 08:49:04 +0100 Received: from ua-83-227-181-30.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se ([83.227.181.30]) by ironport.bredband.com with ESMTP; 05 Dec 2005 08:49:32 +0100 X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-IronPort-AV: i="3.99,214,1131318000"; d="scan'208"; a="15480917:sNHT28431279" Received: from [192.168.10.11] (euklides.gneto.com [192.168.10.11]) by ua-83-227-181-30.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE0FE678DC; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 08:49:03 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4393F0EF.4040204@gneto.com> Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 08:49:03 +0100 From: Martin Nilsson User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051204) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <20051201172828.5b25fdd4.kgunders@teamcool.net> <4390488A.9060708@wmptl.com> <20051205025818.GA62285@dragon.NUXI.org> In-Reply-To: <20051205025818.GA62285@dragon.NUXI.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tyan alternatives cuz their support totally sucks X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 07:49:08 -0000 David O'Brien wrote: >>I've always had good experiences with MSI boards/systems... generally well >>priced/featured and their support is pretty good. > > > MSI's support of Opteron sucks terribly. They have a strong track record > of EOL'ing their Opteron boards by not providing BIOS support when new > Opteron come out. That is also my experience with them, ask for a new BIOS and you'll never get a reply. > Unless you really need 12 DIMM sockets on a dual-cpu > (2 processor sockets) motherboard I would never buy an MSI. With 8 DIMMs on one CPU you have to run the memory att DDR266 speed, with 6 DIMMS you get DDR333. The MSI BIOS is so stupid that you can't even force a lower speed, it always chooses the one in SPD. If you put 8*DDR400 sticks on CPU1 you won't be able to use the box at all since it tries to run them att DDR400 which does not work. If you mix DDR333 and DDR400 modules on one CPU the board tries to run them both on DDR400, which surprisingly does not work. Also the MSI does not have IPMI support, it is listed in the manual but was discontinued before manufacturing. Simply put this is not server class hardware, more like some "overgrown desktop toy system". As a reseller we stick to the Supermicro A+ boards, they simply work, availability and support is also good. /Martin From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 5 09:09:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CD8E16A41F for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 09:09:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4634143D53 for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 09:09:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jB599525068091; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 01:09:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.NUXI.org) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id jB5990VE068087; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 01:09:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 01:09:00 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Martin Nilsson Message-ID: <20051205090900.GA68024@dragon.NUXI.org> References: <20051201172828.5b25fdd4.kgunders@teamcool.net> <4390488A.9060708@wmptl.com> <20051205025818.GA62285@dragon.NUXI.org> <4393F0EF.4040204@gneto.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4393F0EF.4040204@gneto.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tyan alternatives cuz their support totally sucks X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 09:09:22 -0000 On Mon, Dec 05, 2005 at 08:49:03AM +0100, Martin Nilsson wrote: > David O'Brien wrote: > >Unless you really need 12 DIMM sockets on a dual-cpu > >(2 processor sockets) motherboard I would never buy an MSI. > > With 8 DIMMs on one CPU you have to run the memory att DDR266 speed, With Opteron rev.E you can use DDR333, if they are double ranked vs. quad ranked (double stacked RAM chips). > As a reseller we stick to the Supermicro A+ boards, they simply work, > availability and support is also good. Watch out about the Supermicro H8DAR-T board - there is no FreeBSD support of the SATA controller. Supermicro's support of even Linux for this board totally sux. The SCSI Supermicro are fine. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) Q: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. A: Why is top-posting (putting a reply at the top of the message) frowned upon? From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 5 11:01:55 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5932C16A41F for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 11:01:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D47A343D73 for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 11:01:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (peter@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jB5B1kw1023789 for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 11:01:46 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id jB5B1i0C023783 for freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 11:01:44 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 11:01:44 GMT Message-Id: <200512051101.jB5B1i0C023783@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Current problem reports assigned to you X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 11:01:55 -0000 Current FreeBSD problem reports Critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2005/08/09] amd64/84693 amd64 Keyboard not recognized during first step o [2005/11/17] amd64/89202 amd64 [ufs] [panic] Kernel crash when accessing 2 problems total. Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2003/11/26] amd64/59714 amd64 device timeout and ad0: WARNING - WRITE_D o [2004/07/28] amd64/69704 amd64 ext2/ext3 unstable in amd64 o [2004/07/28] amd64/69707 amd64 IPC32 dont work OK in amd64 FreeBSD o [2004/09/07] amd64/71471 amd64 Can not install 5.3beta3/amd64 on IBM eSe o [2004/09/12] amd64/71644 amd64 [panic] amd64 5.3-BETA4 crash when heavy o [2004/10/28] amd64/73252 amd64 ad6: WARNING - READ_DMA interrupt was see o [2004/10/30] amd64/73322 amd64 [msdosfs] [hang] unarchiving /etc to msdo o [2004/11/01] amd64/73369 amd64 on-board firewire unreliable with Asus K8 o [2004/11/07] amd64/73650 amd64 5.3-release panics on boot o [2004/11/10] amd64/73775 amd64 Kernel panic (trap 12) when booting with o [2004/11/16] amd64/74014 amd64 5.3-RELEASE-AMD64 freezes on boot during o [2004/12/05] amd64/74747 amd64 System panic on shutdown when process wil o [2004/12/18] amd64/75209 amd64 5.3-Release panics on attempted boot from o [2004/12/23] amd64/75417 amd64 ACPI: SATA Hard-disk o [2005/01/12] amd64/76136 amd64 system halts before reboot o [2005/01/17] amd64/76336 amd64 racoon/setkey -D cases instant "Fatal Tra o [2005/02/02] amd64/77011 amd64 consisten 5.3-p5 make crash on installwor o [2005/02/23] amd64/77949 amd64 Pb boot FreeBSD 64 o [2005/03/04] amd64/78406 amd64 [panic]AMD64 w/ SCSI: issue 'rm -r /usr/p o [2005/03/07] amd64/78558 amd64 installation o [2005/03/14] amd64/78848 amd64 [sis] sis driver on FreeBSD 5.x does not o [2005/04/12] amd64/79813 amd64 Will not install/run on amd64 nForce 4 pl o [2005/04/19] amd64/80114 amd64 kldload snd_ich causes interrupt storm wh o [2005/05/06] amd64/80691 amd64 amd64 kernel hangs on load o [2005/05/14] amd64/81037 amd64 SATA problem o [2005/05/28] amd64/81602 amd64 SATA crashes with parallel pcm access o [2005/06/09] amd64/82071 amd64 incorrect -march's parameter to build 32b o [2005/06/19] amd64/82425 amd64 [fxp] fxp0: device timeout, fxp interface o [2005/06/23] amd64/82555 amd64 Kernel Panic - after i connect to my "amd o [2005/07/05] amd64/83005 amd64 Memory Occupied during installation of th o [2005/08/12] amd64/84832 amd64 Installation crashes just at boot AMD64/ o [2005/08/14] amd64/84930 amd64 [msdosfs] something wrong with msdosfs on o [2005/08/29] amd64/85431 amd64 AMD64 has short but temporary freezes (ha o [2005/08/29] amd64/85451 amd64 [hang] 6.0-BETA3 lockups on AMD64 (PREEMP o [2005/09/13] amd64/86080 amd64 [radeon] [hang] radeon DRI causes system o [2005/09/23] amd64/86503 amd64 [atapicam] [panic] k3b crash the system l o [2005/10/09] amd64/87156 amd64 First Installation: Kernel crashes o [2005/10/11] amd64/87258 amd64 [smp] [boot] cannot boot with SMP and Are o [2005/10/12] amd64/87305 amd64 [smp] Dual Opteron / FreeBSD 5 & 6 / powe o [2005/10/12] amd64/87316 amd64 [vge] "vge0 attach returned 6" on FreeBSD a [2005/10/12] amd64/87328 amd64 [boot] BTX halted error o [2005/10/12] amd64/87348 amd64 amd64+smp+startkde always crashing o [2005/10/15] amd64/87472 amd64 I downloaded 5.4 and went to install it, o [2005/10/16] amd64/87514 amd64 6.0-CURRENT freezes machine using >4GB on o [2005/10/19] amd64/87689 amd64 [powerd] [hang] powerd hangs SMP Opteron o [2005/10/20] amd64/87748 amd64 can't initialize X o [2005/10/25] amd64/87977 amd64 [busdma] [panic] amd64 busdma dflt_lock c o [2005/10/31] amd64/88299 amd64 swapcontext fails with errno 0 o [2005/11/06] amd64/88568 amd64 [panic] 6.0-RELEASE install cd does not b f [2005/11/09] amd64/88746 amd64 Buffer problem with SSH2 under amd64 arch o [2005/11/10] amd64/88790 amd64 kernel panic on first boot (after the Fre o [2005/11/24] amd64/89501 amd64 System crashes on install using ftp on lo o [2005/11/24] amd64/89503 amd64 Cant Boot Installation Disk o [2005/11/25] amd64/89546 amd64 [geom] GEOM error o [2005/11/25] amd64/89549 amd64 [amd64] nve timeouts on 6.0-release o [2005/11/25] amd64/89550 amd64 [amd64] sym0: VTOBUS failed (6.0 Release) 56 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2004/01/11] amd64/61209 amd64 ppc0: cannot reserve I/O port range o [2004/02/21] amd64/63188 amd64 [ti] ti(4) broken on amd64 o [2004/07/28] amd64/69705 amd64 IPC problem (msq_queues) o [2004/08/15] amd64/70500 amd64 [bge] bge driver for 3Com 3C996B on amd64 o [2004/12/02] amd64/74608 amd64 [mpt] [hang] mpt hangs 5 minutes when boo o [2004/12/07] amd64/74811 amd64 [nfs] df, nfs mount, negative Avail -> 32 o [2004/12/13] ports/75015 amd64 cvsup on amd64 coredumps with either runs o [2005/03/17] amd64/78954 amd64 kerberos 5 failed to build o [2005/05/16] amd64/81089 amd64 [bge] [patch] FreeBSD 5.4 released versio o [2005/06/18] amd64/82399 amd64 MSI K8N Neo4 Platinium is not supported o [2005/08/07] amd64/84652 amd64 kbdmap -r dumps core o [2005/08/20] amd64/85144 amd64 Asus K8S-MX mobo, integ LAN not recognize o [2005/09/06] amd64/85812 amd64 "Rebooting..." on serial console appears o [2005/09/07] amd64/85820 amd64 1.5 times slower performance with SCHED_U o [2005/10/23] amd64/87882 amd64 emu10k1 and APCI on amd64 is just noisy o [2005/11/09] amd64/88730 amd64 kernel panics during booting from the ins 16 problems total. From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 5 11:20:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3178216A41F for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 11:20:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EE0243D5A for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 11:20:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jB5BK3AT032091 for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 11:20:03 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id jB5BK3Jj032090; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 11:20:03 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 11:20:03 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200512051120.jB5BK3Jj032090@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Andriy Podanenko Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18D0F16A41F for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 11:14:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [216.136.204.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A58E343D5C for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 11:14:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jB5BEO2K068032 for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 11:14:24 GMT (envelope-from nobody@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id jB5BEOh3068031; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 11:14:24 GMT (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200512051114.jB5BEOh3068031@www.freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 11:14:24 GMT From: Andriy Podanenko To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-2.3 Cc: Subject: amd64/89968: Asus A8N-E MediaShield RAID problem(read-only support) X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 11:20:05 -0000 >Number: 89968 >Category: amd64 >Synopsis: Asus A8N-E MediaShield RAID problem(read-only support) >Confidential: no >Severity: critical >Priority: high >Responsible: freebsd-amd64 >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: sw-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Dec 05 11:20:02 GMT 2005 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Andriy Podanenko >Release: FreeBSD 6.0 amd64 >Organization: Color-Pro >Environment: GENERIC kernel >Description: I want use my RAID from 2 SATA-II disks but system have only read-only support of this raid, no write 8( >How-To-Repeat: Try ASUS A8N-E(Sli) Motherboard >Fix: can help with testing on my pc >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 5 11:31:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB73516A41F; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 11:31:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fullermd@over-yonder.net) Received: from mail.localelinks.com (web.localelinks.com [65.170.254.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B5B343D45; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 11:31:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fullermd@over-yonder.net) Received: from draco.over-yonder.net (adsl-222-65-122.jan.bellsouth.net [68.222.65.122]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.localelinks.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B434AD; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 05:31:44 -0600 (CST) Received: by draco.over-yonder.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id 7F66761C25; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 05:31:40 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 05:31:40 -0600 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: David O'Brien Message-ID: <20051205113140.GA90806@over-yonder.net> References: <20051204184826.D1077@ganymede.hub.org> <20051205030253.GC62285@dragon.NUXI.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051205030253.GC62285@dragon.NUXI.org> X-Editor: vi X-OS: FreeBSD User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11-fullermd.2 Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A stupid 64bit question ... but ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 11:31:47 -0000 On Sun, Dec 04, 2005 at 07:02:53PM -0800 I heard the voice of David O'Brien, and lo! it spake thus: > > Perl won't be reporting a 64-bit capable machine, when running a > 32-bit OS. Look in /var/run/dmesg for 'AMD Features' to report 'LM' > (long mode). It's not, it's just reporting 64-bit ints. [5:30:51] mortis:/tmp (ttyp2):{1358}% dmesg | grep ^CPU CPU: Pentium Pro (198.67-MHz 686-class CPU) [5:30:55] mortis:/tmp (ttyp2):{1359}% perl -v This is perl, v5.8.7 built for i386-freebsd-64int (with 1 registered patch, see perl -V for more detail) -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fullermd@over-yonder.net Systems/Network Administrator | http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/ On the Internet, nobody can hear you scream. From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 5 12:41:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A569116A41F; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 12:41:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martin@gneto.com) Received: from av11-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (av11-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.184]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26A3E43D46; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 12:41:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martin@gneto.com) Received: by av11-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id C4254380C9; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 13:41:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.92]) by av11-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A922537F42; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 13:41:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.2.30] (h99n2fls34o985.telia.com [213.66.202.99]) by smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8933937E4D; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 13:41:34 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4394357A.8070509@gneto.com> Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 13:41:30 +0100 From: Martin Nilsson User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: sv, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <20051201172828.5b25fdd4.kgunders@teamcool.net> <4390488A.9060708@wmptl.com> <20051205025818.GA62285@dragon.NUXI.org> <4393F0EF.4040204@gneto.com> <20051205090900.GA68024@dragon.NUXI.org> In-Reply-To: <20051205090900.GA68024@dragon.NUXI.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tyan alternatives cuz their support totally sucks X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 12:41:36 -0000 David O'Brien wrote: >>As a reseller we stick to the Supermicro A+ boards, they simply work, >>availability and support is also good. > > Watch out about the Supermicro H8DAR-T board - there is no FreeBSD > support of the SATA controller. Supermicro's support of even Linux for > this board totally sux. The SCSI Supermicro are fine. I know, it's the infamous Marvell chips that require a signed NDA to get specifications. I have have asked Supermicro for support but since they too are under NDA they can't do anything and just refers me to the Marvell legal dept. Just avoid Marvell chips if you are going to run anything else than Windows. It's obvious that Marvell don't want to sell to the huge BSD and Linux server market, so why should we put any effort into supporting their products for free? We don't sell the products that have these chips (not even to Windows customers), this is to teach SM to not use them :-) /Martin From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 5 15:12:30 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B220716A420; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 15:12:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dgilbert@daveg.ca) Received: from ox.eicat.ca (ox.eicat.ca [66.96.30.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF6F443D55; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 15:12:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dgilbert@daveg.ca) Received: by ox.eicat.ca (Postfix, from userid 66) id F3CFF11102; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 10:12:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by canoe.dclg.ca (Postfix, from userid 101) id 2A2531A0840; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 10:12:22 -0500 (EST) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17300.22742.111538.855619@canoe.dclg.ca> Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 10:12:22 -0500 To: obrien@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20051205025818.GA62285@dragon.NUXI.org> References: <20051201172828.5b25fdd4.kgunders@teamcool.net> <4390488A.9060708@wmptl.com> <20051205025818.GA62285@dragon.NUXI.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.4 (patch 17) "Jumbo Shrimp" XEmacs Lucid Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tyan alternatives cuz their support totally sucks X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 15:12:30 -0000 >>>>> "David" == David O'Brien writes: David> On Fri, Dec 02, 2005 at 08:13:46AM -0500, Nathan Vidican wrote: >> Ken Gunderson wrote: >Requirements: >1) Single Opteron should >> suffice >2) DDR400 ECC supported >3) SATA disk subsystem will >> suffice 2 drive gmirror conf. 4 drive David> .. >> I've always had good experiences with MSI >> boards/systems... generally well priced/featured and their support >> is pretty good. David> MSI's support of Opteron sucks terribly. They have a strong David> track record of EOL'ing their Opteron boards by not providing David> BIOS support when new Opteron come out. Unless you really need David> 12 DIMM sockets on a dual-cpu (2 processor sockets) motherboard David> I would never buy an MSI. We've just ditched a bunch of Tyan boards for Gigabyte boards. We were having no end of crashing with the Tyans... and the Gigabyte boards have been rock solid with the same software load. IIRC, we've only got two 246's in them. Nothing horribly fast. Dave. From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 5 15:24:45 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DAEF16A41F for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 15:24:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vivek@khera.org) Received: from yertle.kcilink.com (yertle.kcilink.com [65.205.34.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A648943D5E for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 15:24:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vivek@khera.org) Received: from [192.168.7.103] (host-103.int.kcilink.com [192.168.7.103]) by yertle.kcilink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59214B85A for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 10:24:42 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) In-Reply-To: <10F00268-9E17-4EAB-B806-D8666C50177D@khera.org> References: <437CF0E5.5030405@wmptl.com> <437D0FF6.20009@deadcafe.de> <1E1A2905-37CA-45BA-8E3E-BC3DDF3094EF@khera.org> <4384BBBF.4030007@wmptl.com> <438844C2.3000902@bredband.net> <10F00268-9E17-4EAB-B806-D8666C50177D@khera.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <099752D0-4311-472F-9883-AB269B389277@khera.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Vivek Khera Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 10:24:41 -0500 To: amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) Cc: Subject: Re: Sun x2100 Server Compatability X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 15:24:45 -0000 Sorta off-topic: Does anyone know about the rack rails for these systems (and/or the X4100)? Sun claims "they only fit Sun racks" which seems idiotic to me (Dell used to claim the same but their rails always fit standard square-hole racks too). The local Sun reseller doesn't seem to want to do any research for me or show me any samples. Anyone who knows please let me know. Thanks! From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 5 15:54:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47C1916A41F for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 15:54:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kgunders@teamcool.net) Received: from koyukuk.teamcool.net (koyukuk.teamcool.net [209.161.34.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1331443D5E for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 15:54:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kgunders@teamcool.net) Received: from koyukuk.teamcool.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by koyukuk.teamcool.net (TeamCool Rocks) with ESMTP id 38449F821 for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 08:54:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from cochise.teamcool.net (unknown [192.168.1.57]) by koyukuk.teamcool.net (TeamCool Rocks) with ESMTP id F2554F820 for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 08:54:22 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 08:54:21 -0700 From: Ken Gunderson To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20051205085421.35341cb5.kgunders@teamcool.net> In-Reply-To: <17300.22742.111538.855619@canoe.dclg.ca> References: <20051201172828.5b25fdd4.kgunders@teamcool.net> <4390488A.9060708@wmptl.com> <20051205025818.GA62285@dragon.NUXI.org> <17300.22742.111538.855619@canoe.dclg.ca> Organization: Teamcool Networks X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.9.12 (GTK+ 2.6.7; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Subject: Re: Tyan alternatives cuz their support totally sucks X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 15:54:38 -0000 On Mon, 5 Dec 2005 10:12:22 -0500 David Gilbert wrote: > >>>>> "David" == David O'Brien writes: > > David> On Fri, Dec 02, 2005 at 08:13:46AM -0500, Nathan Vidican wrote: > >> Ken Gunderson wrote: >Requirements: >1) Single Opteron should > >> suffice >2) DDR400 ECC supported >3) SATA disk subsystem will > >> suffice 2 drive gmirror conf. 4 drive > David> .. > >> I've always had good experiences with MSI > >> boards/systems... generally well priced/featured and their support > >> is pretty good. > > David> MSI's support of Opteron sucks terribly. They have a strong > David> track record of EOL'ing their Opteron boards by not providing > David> BIOS support when new Opteron come out. Unless you really need > David> 12 DIMM sockets on a dual-cpu (2 processor sockets) motherboard > David> I would never buy an MSI. > > We've just ditched a bunch of Tyan boards for Gigabyte boards. We > were having no end of crashing with the Tyans... and the Gigabyte > boards have been rock solid with the same software load. > > IIRC, we've only got two 246's in them. Nothing horribly fast. Which board models? -- Best regards, Ken Gunderson Q: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. A: Why is putting a reply at the top of the message frowned upon? From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 5 16:24:03 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFA0A16A41F for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 16:24:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kgunders@teamcool.net) Received: from koyukuk.teamcool.net (koyukuk.teamcool.net [209.161.34.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF13243D55 for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 16:23:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kgunders@teamcool.net) Received: from koyukuk.teamcool.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by koyukuk.teamcool.net (TeamCool Rocks) with ESMTP id 15B52F824 for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 09:23:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from cochise.teamcool.net (unknown [192.168.1.57]) by koyukuk.teamcool.net (TeamCool Rocks) with ESMTP id E535EF822 for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 09:23:58 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 09:23:58 -0700 From: Ken Gunderson To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20051205092358.2a3c806f.kgunders@teamcool.net> In-Reply-To: <099752D0-4311-472F-9883-AB269B389277@khera.org> References: <437CF0E5.5030405@wmptl.com> <437D0FF6.20009@deadcafe.de> <1E1A2905-37CA-45BA-8E3E-BC3DDF3094EF@khera.org> <4384BBBF.4030007@wmptl.com> <438844C2.3000902@bredband.net> <10F00268-9E17-4EAB-B806-D8666C50177D@khera.org> <099752D0-4311-472F-9883-AB269B389277@khera.org> Organization: Teamcool Networks X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.9.12 (GTK+ 2.6.7; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Subject: Re: Sun x2100 Server Compatability X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 16:24:04 -0000 On Mon, 5 Dec 2005 10:24:41 -0500 Vivek Khera wrote: > Sorta off-topic: > > Does anyone know about the rack rails for these systems (and/or the > X4100)? Sun claims "they only fit Sun racks" which seems idiotic to > me (Dell used to claim the same but their rails always fit standard > square-hole racks too). The local Sun reseller doesn't seem to want > to do any research for me or show me any samples. > > Anyone who knows please let me know. Thanks! Vivek: I don't know for sure but I have seen photos of a Wikimedia cluster (Amsterdam??) that used a bunch Sun servers. They had a bunch of high res pics. Don't recall seeing any Sun logos on the racks. Lemme see if I can find a link.... Hmm.. this is closet I can get right now: Not what I was looking for. They a lot of high res pics of that cluster somewhere... -- Best regards, Ken Gunderson Q: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. A: Why is putting a reply at the top of the message frowned upon? From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 5 17:44:02 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA67716A41F for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 17:44:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0053E43D6A for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 17:44:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jB5HhuQL076634; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 09:43:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.NUXI.org) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id jB5Hhu1C076633; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 09:43:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 09:43:56 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: pfgshield-freebsd@yahoo.com Message-ID: <20051205174356.GA76476@dragon.NUXI.org> References: <20051201182200.29630.qmail@web32911.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051201182200.29630.qmail@web32911.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: options VESA --> where is it ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 17:44:02 -0000 On Thu, Dec 01, 2005 at 07:22:00PM +0100, pfgshield-freebsd@yahoo.com wrote: > > Then, there is no way to get a high resolution console on amd64 ? > > No promises but when my Pentium D arrives I'll work on porting KGI4BSD to the > AMD64. > http://people.freebsd.org/~nsouch/kgi4BSD/ > > It's completely untested and not ready for production but that said I > don't see why it shouldn't work. SuSE Linux has nice high-res console when running on amd64 machines. Figuring out the techniques they use may be helpful. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) Q: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. A: Why is top-posting (putting a reply at the top of the message) frowned upon? From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 5 17:48:18 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB7FF16A41F for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 17:48:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 175FD43D72 for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 17:48:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jB5HmFSj076711; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 09:48:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.NUXI.org) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id jB5HmFtT076710; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 09:48:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 09:48:15 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Derrick Edwards Message-ID: <20051205174815.GB76476@dragon.NUXI.org> References: <200511292057.13225.dantavious@comcast.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200511292057.13225.dantavious@comcast.net> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 64bit FreeBSD performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 17:48:18 -0000 On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 08:57:12PM -0500, Derrick Edwards wrote: > All, > I purchased a amd anthlon 64 3700 (754) to be used with VMWARE 5.5. FreeBSD > was going to be the guest OS. It seems that VMWARE only works with amd 64 bit > (939). I was wondering if the performance gain of FreeBSD 64 bit really be > significant compared to 32bit FreeBSD. Your statement is hard to parse - to figure out what you're really saying. VMware 5.5 runs fine on AMD Athlon64 3700 (754-pin) systems if you are running a 32-bit host and want to run 64-bit guests. If you want to run a 64-bit guest you need a revision D or later Athlon64. 64-bit 754-pin Semprons qualify. It isn't an issue of the number of pins the CPU has. You cannot run a 64-bit guest on a 939-pin rev.CG Athlon64. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) Q: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. A: Why is top-posting (putting a reply at the top of the message) frowned upon? From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 5 17:50:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13A4116A41F for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 17:50:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B34F843D45 for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 17:50:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jB5HocLi076766; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 09:50:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.NUXI.org) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id jB5Hocdn076765; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 09:50:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 09:50:38 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Ken Gunderson Message-ID: <20051205175038.GC76476@dragon.NUXI.org> References: <200512022021.UAA20705@sopwith.solgatos.com> <20051202133010.21549f90.kgunders@teamcool.net> <20051202204923.GD20567@odin.ac.hmc.edu> <20051202141632.707fdb1a.kgunders@teamcool.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051202141632.707fdb1a.kgunders@teamcool.net> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to get support (was: Tyan alternatives cuz their support totally sucks) X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 17:50:47 -0000 On Fri, Dec 02, 2005 at 02:16:32PM -0700, Ken Gunderson wrote: > Thankfully I was. But it still boiled down to terrible support on > Tyan's end until we got sales management involved. ... > Now that these problems have been brought to the attention of a couple > sales managers hopefully they will be channeled up the appropriate > ladders It has been my experience in the computer HW arena that with margins as razor thin as they are - tying something you need done to actual sales is the only guaranteed way to get what you want. It isn't just a Tyan thing. :-( -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) Q: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. A: Why is top-posting (putting a reply at the top of the message) frowned upon? From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 5 17:56:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAC5D16A41F for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 17:56:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CA6A43D55 for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 17:56:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jB5HuERL076878; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 09:56:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.NUXI.org) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id jB5HuCGC076877; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 09:56:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 09:56:12 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Jia-Shiun Li Message-ID: <20051205175612.GD76476@dragon.NUXI.org> References: <200511272146.48247.dantavious@comcast.net> <1d6d20bc0511300748m1adedb31t@mail.gmail.com> <438DD87C.9060906@deadcafe.de> <1d6d20bc0511301815q1029ad05k@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1d6d20bc0511301815q1029ad05k@mail.gmail.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: Daniel Rock , freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD amd 64 and VMWARE issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 17:56:32 -0000 On Thu, Dec 01, 2005 at 10:15:28AM +0800, Jia-Shiun Li wrote: > ya... I just found that not every x64 CPU will work. Only those Intel > ones with VT (Pentium 4 6[67]2), and AMD ones of newer stepping (I > dont know what is the real difference that matters) can run 64-bit > guests. These CPUs are still rare. AMD hasn't made any pre-rev.D CPU's for an entire year. Getting a rev.D (90nm) CPU shouldn't be hard at all. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) Q: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. A: Why is top-posting (putting a reply at the top of the message) frowned upon? From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 5 19:15:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A802D16A422 for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 19:15:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vkashyap@amcc.com) Received: from sdcexchange01.amcc.com (gatekeeper-out.amcc.com [198.137.200.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D501443D78 for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 19:15:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vkashyap@amcc.com) Importance: normal Priority: normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.181 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 11:15:19 -0800 Message-ID: <2B3B2AA816369A4E87D7BE63EC9D2F26010F2E9E@SDCEXCHANGE01.ad.amcc.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: FreeBSD 6.0-Release AMD64 3DM2 3ware 7506-8 thread-index: AcX4j3864vo4Dnx0QSagowPIE5BgTgBQEa6Q From: "Vinod Kashyap" To: "Magikman" , Cc: Subject: RE: FreeBSD 6.0-Release AMD64 3DM2 3ware 7506-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 19:15:23 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org=20 > [mailto:owner-freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Magikman > Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 9:10 PM > To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org > Subject: FreeBSD 6.0-Release AMD64 3DM2 3ware 7506-8 >=20 > Hola, >=20 > I am having some trouble getting 3dm2 up and running=20 > on my server. I have installed via the ports and i have also=20 > downloaded the software from 3ware's support site. However,=20 > none seem to work for me.=20 > If anyone has this working, could you tell me what, exactly,=20 > i need to do. >=20 Get the FreeBSD 5.4 3DM2 from the 9.3.0.1 release for 3ware 9550SX controllers. It should work on your 7xxx controller too. -------------------------------------------------------- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, = is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and contains = information that is confidential and proprietary to Applied Micro = Circuits Corporation or its subsidiaries. It is to be used solely for = the purpose of furthering the parties' business relationship. All = unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If = you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply = e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 5 20:05:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA30716A420; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 20:05:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fullermd@over-yonder.net) Received: from mail.localelinks.com (web.localelinks.com [65.170.254.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7362543D5A; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 20:05:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fullermd@over-yonder.net) Received: from draco.over-yonder.net (adsl-222-65-122.jan.bellsouth.net [68.222.65.122]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.localelinks.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E371DAD; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 14:05:13 -0600 (CST) Received: by draco.over-yonder.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id 1A64161C23; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 14:05:13 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 14:05:13 -0600 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: David O'Brien Message-ID: <20051205200512.GI90806@over-yonder.net> References: <200511272146.48247.dantavious@comcast.net> <1d6d20bc0511300748m1adedb31t@mail.gmail.com> <438DD87C.9060906@deadcafe.de> <1d6d20bc0511301815q1029ad05k@mail.gmail.com> <20051205175612.GD76476@dragon.NUXI.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051205175612.GD76476@dragon.NUXI.org> X-Editor: vi X-OS: FreeBSD User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11-fullermd.2 Cc: Daniel Rock , freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD amd 64 and VMWARE issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 20:05:17 -0000 On Mon, Dec 05, 2005 at 09:56:12AM -0800 I heard the voice of David O'Brien, and lo! it spake thus: > > AMD hasn't made any pre-rev.D CPU's for an entire year. Getting a > rev.D (90nm) CPU shouldn't be hard at all. Is there a handy list somewhere of what these revisions are and what they mean? -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fullermd@over-yonder.net Systems/Network Administrator | http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/ On the Internet, nobody can hear you scream. From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 5 22:09:21 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9E2B16A41F for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 22:09:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dantavious@comcast.net) Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C59D343D8F for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 22:09:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dantavious@comcast.net) Received: from [192.168.1.109] (pcp0011002249pcs.longhl01.md.comcast.net[68.55.192.50]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with ESMTP id <20051205220914013003mn18e>; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 22:09:14 +0000 From: Derrick Edwards To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 17:09:22 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: <200511292057.13225.dantavious@comcast.net> <20051205174815.GB76476@dragon.NUXI.org> In-Reply-To: <20051205174815.GB76476@dragon.NUXI.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200512051709.22978.dantavious@comcast.net> Subject: Re: 64bit FreeBSD performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 22:09:21 -0000 On Monday 05 December 2005 12:48, David O'Brien wrote: David, Thanks for clearing that up. I was way off and I am glad that I did not go to the trouble of trying to send the CPU back for the 939. Thanks for the information. v/r Derrick > On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 08:57:12PM -0500, Derrick Edwards wrote: > > All, > > I purchased a amd anthlon 64 3700 (754) to be used with VMWARE 5.5. > > FreeBSD was going to be the guest OS. It seems that VMWARE only works > > with amd 64 bit (939). I was wondering if the performance gain of FreeBSD > > 64 bit really be significant compared to 32bit FreeBSD. > > Your statement is hard to parse - to figure out what you're really > saying. VMware 5.5 runs fine on AMD Athlon64 3700 (754-pin) systems if > you are running a 32-bit host and want to run 64-bit guests. If you want > to run a 64-bit guest you need a revision D or later Athlon64. 64-bit > 754-pin Semprons qualify. It isn't an issue of the number of pins the > CPU has. You cannot run a 64-bit guest on a 939-pin rev.CG Athlon64. From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 6 01:31:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1763816A41F for ; Tue, 6 Dec 2005 01:31:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pfgshield-freebsd@yahoo.com) Received: from web32905.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web32905.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.52]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2F20843D5C for ; Tue, 6 Dec 2005 01:31:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pfgshield-freebsd@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 16872 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Dec 2005 01:31:30 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=nnGdgMoYW9Oug0KzAnhfL8WUKwjRKQLlcdVwMTcWQBK6pJ9QZS/s7Sn7hbv63lQMduGqJ4PMZ1TdJlXYIAy8y59d+1SB7xL7Zp/H+iS1yBgLdJ0wFul9QVQP5uJJASxCQfL4LiGdMJ2l1AeJsoEPaA+RTPvL6Fwwz43GmoIY7Pw= ; Message-ID: <20051206013130.16870.qmail@web32905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [69.79.48.179] by web32905.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 06 Dec 2005 02:31:30 CET Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 02:31:30 +0100 (CET) From: To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: Tiny report on a Dell Dimension 9150 (it works with minor glitches) X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: pfgshield-freebsd@yahoo.com List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 01:31:32 -0000 Hi; I bought a new Dell Dimension 9150 with the specific objective of running FreeBSD 6's most interesting features (64bit + SMP). The computer has - an Intel Pentium D processor 2.8 GHz (dual core, no HT) with EM64T - an Intel PRO/1000 PL NIC - I couldn't change this, it's integrated - a Radeon X600 256MB Graphic card (normally it comes with an X300) - I upgraded the integrated sound with an Audigy. - the rest (mouse, keyboard) is rather standard USB. I haven't had time to do a full install yet but a brief boot on the live CD from the AMD64 distribution shows: 1) The AMD64 port boots fine and detects the Intel Pentium D, however it confuses dual core with hyperthreading. 2) The network card isn't recognized. There's not much more to report yet, but I'll surely get to installing FreeBSD this week, JIC someone wants me to test patches ;). cheers, Pedro. ___________________________________ Yahoo! Mail: gratis 1GB per i messaggi e allegati da 10MB http://mail.yahoo.it From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 6 04:13:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19B9716A41F; Tue, 6 Dec 2005 04:13:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ohartman@mail.uni-mainz.de) Received: from mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.178.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95B0343D55; Tue, 6 Dec 2005 04:13:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ohartman@mail.uni-mainz.de) Received: from [217.185.80.103] (manz-d9b95067.pool.mediaWays.net [217.185.80.103]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailgate1.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1847A3004D5D; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 20:09:14 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <43949054.7080404@mail.uni-mainz.de> Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 20:09:08 +0100 From: "O. Hartmann" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051204) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org References: <200511292057.13225.dantavious@comcast.net> <20051205174815.GB76476@dragon.NUXI.org> In-Reply-To: <20051205174815.GB76476@dragon.NUXI.org> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------050302040007090200000707" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at uni-mainz.de X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: 64bit FreeBSD performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 04:13:46 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050302040007090200000707 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit David O'Brien wrote: >On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 08:57:12PM -0500, Derrick Edwards wrote: > > >> All, >>I purchased a amd anthlon 64 3700 (754) to be used with VMWARE 5.5. FreeBSD >>was going to be the guest OS. It seems that VMWARE only works with amd 64 bit >>(939). I was wondering if the performance gain of FreeBSD 64 bit really be >>significant compared to 32bit FreeBSD. >> >> > >Your statement is hard to parse - to figure out what you're really >saying. VMware 5.5 runs fine on AMD Athlon64 3700 (754-pin) systems if >you are running a 32-bit host and want to run 64-bit guests. If you want >to run a 64-bit guest you need a revision D or later Athlon64. 64-bit >754-pin Semprons qualify. It isn't an issue of the number of pins the >CPU has. You cannot run a 64-bit guest on a 939-pin rev.CG Athlon64. > > > Just for my information: what is the difference between those 'older' socket 939-athlon64 and newer CPUs that they aren't capable of running a 64-bit guest system? Well, I'm just only familiar with the so called 'market-names' of the Athlon64 chip series, like 'Winchester' or 'Venice'. Thank you very much in advance for patience ... Oliver --------------050302040007090200000707-- From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 6 20:01:21 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5AAB16A420 for ; Tue, 6 Dec 2005 20:01:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 662EF43D5C for ; Tue, 6 Dec 2005 20:01:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jB6K1EBt001427; Tue, 6 Dec 2005 12:01:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.NUXI.org) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id jB6K1D8l001426; Tue, 6 Dec 2005 12:01:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 12:01:13 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: "O. Hartmann" Message-ID: <20051206200113.GF76476@dragon.NUXI.org> References: <200511292057.13225.dantavious@comcast.net> <20051205174815.GB76476@dragon.NUXI.org> <43949054.7080404@mail.uni-mainz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43949054.7080404@mail.uni-mainz.de> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 64bit FreeBSD performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 20:01:21 -0000 On Mon, Dec 05, 2005 at 08:09:08PM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: > David O'Brien wrote: > >Your statement is hard to parse - to figure out what you're really > >saying. VMware 5.5 runs fine on AMD Athlon64 3700 (754-pin) systems if > >you are running a 32-bit host and want to run 64-bit guests. If you want > >to run a 64-bit guest you need a revision D or later Athlon64. 64-bit > >754-pin Semprons qualify. It isn't an issue of the number of pins the > >CPU has. You cannot run a 64-bit guest on a 939-pin rev.CG Athlon64. > > Just for my information: what is the difference between those 'older' > socket 939-athlon64 and newer CPUs that they aren't capable of running a > 64-bit guest system? Opteron/Athlon64 rev.D added segment limits to long mode. > Well, I'm just only familiar with the so called 'market-names' of the > Athlon64 chip series, like 'Winchester' or 'Venice'. Those are the core code names - which not only include architecture changes, but metal layers and other fab things. I only care about the architecture database revisions. I.E. only the things that software can "see", vs. fab things the OC'ers care about. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 6 23:55:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B58C16A41F; Tue, 6 Dec 2005 23:55:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: from smarthost2.sentex.ca (smarthost2.sentex.ca [205.211.164.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADD0743D5A; Tue, 6 Dec 2005 23:55:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp2.sentex.ca (smtp2.sentex.ca [199.212.134.9]) by smarthost2.sentex.ca (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jB6Nt7et077968; Tue, 6 Dec 2005 18:55:07 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: from freebsd-current.sentex.ca (freebsd-current.sentex.ca [64.7.128.98]) by smtp2.sentex.ca (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jB6Nt7XW066156; Tue, 6 Dec 2005 18:55:07 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: by freebsd-current.sentex.ca (Postfix, from userid 666) id 2147D7302F; Tue, 6 Dec 2005 18:55:06 -0500 (EST) Sender: FreeBSD Tinderbox From: FreeBSD Tinderbox To: FreeBSD Tinderbox , , Precedence: bulk Message-Id: <20051206235506.2147D7302F@freebsd-current.sentex.ca> Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 18:55:06 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.85.1, clamav-milter version 0.85 on clamscanner2 X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.51 on 205.211.164.50 Cc: Subject: [head tinderbox] failure on amd64/amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 23:55:09 -0000 TB --- 2005-12-06 22:16:45 - tinderbox 2.3 running on freebsd-current.sentex.ca TB --- 2005-12-06 22:16:45 - starting HEAD tinderbox run for amd64/amd64 TB --- 2005-12-06 22:16:45 - cleaning the object tree TB --- 2005-12-06 22:17:29 - checking out the source tree TB --- 2005-12-06 22:17:29 - cd /tinderbox/HEAD/amd64/amd64 TB --- 2005-12-06 22:17:29 - /usr/bin/cvs -f -R -q -d/home/ncvs update -Pd -A src TB --- 2005-12-06 22:23:34 - building world (CFLAGS=-O2 -pipe) TB --- 2005-12-06 22:23:34 - cd /src TB --- 2005-12-06 22:23:34 - /usr/bin/make -B buildworld >>> Rebuilding the temporary build tree >>> stage 1.1: legacy release compatibility shims >>> stage 1.2: bootstrap tools >>> stage 2.1: cleaning up the object tree >>> stage 2.2: rebuilding the object tree >>> stage 2.3: build tools >>> stage 3: cross tools >>> stage 4.1: building includes >>> stage 4.2: building libraries >>> stage 4.3: make dependencies >>> stage 4.4: building everything >>> stage 5.1: building 32 bit shim libraries TB --- 2005-12-06 23:54:37 - generating LINT kernel config TB --- 2005-12-06 23:54:37 - cd /src/sys/amd64/conf TB --- 2005-12-06 23:54:37 - /usr/bin/make -B LINT TB --- 2005-12-06 23:54:37 - building LINT kernel (COPTFLAGS=-O2 -pipe) TB --- 2005-12-06 23:54:37 - cd /src TB --- 2005-12-06 23:54:37 - /usr/bin/make buildkernel KERNCONF=LINT >>> Kernel build for LINT started on Tue Dec 6 23:54:37 UTC 2005 >>> stage 1: configuring the kernel >>> stage 2.1: cleaning up the object tree >>> stage 2.2: rebuilding the object tree >>> stage 2.3: build tools >>> stage 3.1: making dependencies [...] awk -f /src/sys/tools/usbdevs2h.awk /src/sys/dev/usb/usbdevs -d rpcgen -h -C /src/sys/netatm/spans/spans_xdr.x | grep -v rpc/rpc.h > spans_xdr.h rpcgen -c -C /src/sys/netatm/spans/spans_xdr.x | grep -v rpc/rpc.h > spans_xdr.c cc -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/src/sys -I/src/sys/contrib/altq -I/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/src/sys/contrib/pf -I/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -I/src/sys/contrib/ngatm -I/src/sys/dev/twa -D_KERNEL -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include opt_global.h -finline-limit=8000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param large-function-growth=1000 -DGPROF -falign-functions=16 -DGPROF4 -DGUPROF -fno-builtin -fno-omit-frame-pointer -mcmodel=kernel -mno-red-zone -mfpmath=387 -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -msoft-float -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables -ffreestanding -c /src/sys/amd64/linux32/linux32_genassym.c sh /src/sys/kern/genassym.sh linux32_genassym.o > linux32_assym.h cc -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/src/sys -I/src/sys/contrib/altq -I/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/src/sys/contrib/pf -I/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -I/src/sys/contrib/ngatm -I/src/sys/dev/twa -D_KERNEL -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include opt_global.h -finline-limit=8000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param large-function-growth=1000 -DGPROF -falign-functions=16 -DGPROF4 -DGUPROF -fno-builtin -fno-omit-frame-pointer -mcmodel=kernel -mno-red-zone -mfpmath=387 -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -msoft-float -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables -ffreestanding -c /src/sys/compat/ia32/ia32_genassym.c In file included from /src/sys/compat/ia32/ia32_genassym.c:11: /src/sys/compat/ia32/ia32_signal.h:158: error: syntax error before '.' token *** Error code 1 Stop in /obj/amd64/src/sys/LINT. *** Error code 1 Stop in /src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /src. TB --- 2005-12-06 23:55:06 - WARNING: /usr/bin/make returned exit code 1 TB --- 2005-12-06 23:55:06 - ERROR: failed to build lint kernel TB --- 2005-12-06 23:55:06 - tinderbox aborted From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 7 01:51:34 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BC9116A41F; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 01:51:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ganbold@micom.mng.net) Received: from publicd.ub.mng.net (publicd.ub.mng.net [202.179.0.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AA6143D5D; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 01:51:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ganbold@micom.mng.net) Received: from [202.179.0.164] (helo=ganbold.micom.mng.net) by publicd.ub.mng.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.53 (FreeBSD)) id 1EjoYf-0003ux-KB; Wed, 07 Dec 2005 09:57:25 +0800 Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20051207093744.01c92628@micom.mng.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 09:51:22 +0800 To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org From: Ganbold Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: Subject: 6.0 Buildworld on AMD64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 01:51:34 -0000 Hi Scott, David and all, I have dual AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 248 (2193.18-MHz K8-class CPU) and 4GB of RAM. publica# uname -an FreeBSD publica.ub.mng.net 5.3-STABLE FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE #12: Mon Nov 22 12:04:57 ULAT 2004 tsgan@publicc.ub.mng.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/AMD amd64 Yesterday I did cvsup to RELENG_6 from RELENG_5 and made buildworld. However buildworld finished in following way: cc -m32 -march=athlon-xp -msse2 -mfancy-math-387 -DCOMPAT_32BIT -I/usr/obj/usr/src/lib32/usr/include -L/usr/obj/usr/src/lib32/usr/lib32 -B/usr/obj/usr/src/lib32/usr/lib32 -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -Wall -DFREEBSD_ELF -DIN_RTLD -I/usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/i386 -I/usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf -elf -fpic -DPIC -Wformat=2 -Wno-format-extra-args -Werror -nostdlib -e .rtld_start -elf -shared -Wl,-Bsymbolic -o ld-elf32.so.1 rtld_start.o reloc.o rtld.o rtld_lock.o map_object.o malloc.o xmalloc.o debug.o libmap.o -lc_pic publica# Is it correct? It seems strange to me and I remember usually buildworld finishes in different way. Maybe I'm wrong. Also a long time ago I asked about ips driver from Scott whether it supports more than 4GB of RAM. Scott said it is fixed. However I'm still wondering is it OK to add 4GB of RAM to existing system with ips driver after upgrading machine to RELENG_6? A year ago more than 4GB of RAM caused file system break in my system. thanks in advance, Ganbold From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 7 02:04:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C61ED16A420; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 02:04:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E593243D5D; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 02:04:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from [192.168.254.14] (imini.samsco.home [192.168.254.14]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jB724jI0055156; Tue, 6 Dec 2005 19:04:46 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Message-ID: <4396433C.3050701@samsco.org> Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 19:04:44 -0700 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7.7) Gecko/20050416 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ganbold References: <7.0.0.16.0.20051207093744.01c92628@micom.mng.net> In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.0.20051207093744.01c92628@micom.mng.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=3.8 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on pooker.samsco.org Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 6.0 Buildworld on AMD64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 02:04:52 -0000 Ganbold wrote: > Hi Scott, David and all, > > I have dual AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 248 (2193.18-MHz K8-class CPU) and > 4GB of RAM. > > publica# uname -an > FreeBSD publica.ub.mng.net 5.3-STABLE FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE #12: Mon Nov 22 > 12:04:57 ULAT 2004 > tsgan@publicc.ub.mng.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/AMD amd64 > > Yesterday I did cvsup to RELENG_6 from RELENG_5 and made buildworld. > However buildworld finished in following way: > > cc -m32 -march=athlon-xp -msse2 -mfancy-math-387 -DCOMPAT_32BIT > -I/usr/obj/usr/src/lib32/usr/include -L/usr/obj/usr/src/lib32/usr/lib32 > -B/usr/obj/usr/src/lib32/usr/lib32 -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -Wall > -DFREEBSD_ELF -DIN_RTLD -I/usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/i386 > -I/usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf -elf -fpic -DPIC -Wformat=2 > -Wno-format-extra-args -Werror -nostdlib -e .rtld_start -elf -shared > -Wl,-Bsymbolic -o ld-elf32.so.1 rtld_start.o reloc.o rtld.o rtld_lock.o > map_object.o malloc.o xmalloc.o debug.o libmap.o -lc_pic > publica# > > Is it correct? It seems strange to me and I remember usually buildworld > finishes in different way. Maybe I'm wrong. > I think this is the output from compiling the 32-bit compatibility libraries (lib32). It's a somewhat new thing, maybe 5-6 months old. > Also a long time ago I asked about ips driver from Scott whether it > supports more than 4GB of RAM. Scott said it is fixed. > However I'm still wondering is it OK to add 4GB of RAM to existing > system with ips driver after upgrading machine to RELENG_6? > A year ago more than 4GB of RAM caused file system break in my system. Yes, it should work. If it doesn't please let me know right away. Scott From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 7 02:55:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7664616A41F; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 02:55:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ganbold@micom.mng.net) Received: from publicd.ub.mng.net (publicd.ub.mng.net [202.179.0.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F3FC43D4C; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 02:55:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ganbold@micom.mng.net) Received: from [202.179.0.164] (helo=ganbold.micom.mng.net) by publicd.ub.mng.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.53 (FreeBSD)) id 1EjpYq-000LQr-IO; Wed, 07 Dec 2005 11:01:40 +0800 Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20051207104632.01c92628@micom.mng.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 10:55:34 +0800 To: Scott Long From: Ganbold In-Reply-To: <4396433C.3050701@samsco.org> References: <7.0.0.16.0.20051207093744.01c92628@micom.mng.net> <4396433C.3050701@samsco.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 6.0 Buildworld on AMD64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 02:55:49 -0000 At 10:04 AM 12/7/2005, you wrote: >Ganbold wrote: >>Hi Scott, David and all, >>I have dual AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 248 (2193.18-MHz K8-class >>CPU) and 4GB of RAM. >>publica# uname -an >>FreeBSD publica.ub.mng.net 5.3-STABLE FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE #12: Mon >>Nov 22 12:04:57 ULAT 2004 >>tsgan@publicc.ub.mng.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/AMD amd64 >>Yesterday I did cvsup to RELENG_6 from RELENG_5 and made >>buildworld. However buildworld finished in following way: >>cc -m32 -march=athlon-xp -msse2 -mfancy-math-387 -DCOMPAT_32BIT >>-I/usr/obj/usr/src/lib32/usr/include >>-L/usr/obj/usr/src/lib32/usr/lib32 >>-B/usr/obj/usr/src/lib32/usr/lib32 -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe >>-Wall -DFREEBSD_ELF -DIN_RTLD -I/usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/i386 >>-I/usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf -elf -fpic -DPIC -Wformat=2 >>-Wno-format-extra-args -Werror -nostdlib -e .rtld_start -elf >>-shared -Wl,-Bsymbolic -o ld-elf32.so.1 rtld_start.o reloc.o rtld.o >>rtld_lock.o map_object.o malloc.o xmalloc.o debug.o libmap.o -lc_pic >>publica# >>Is it correct? It seems strange to me and I remember usually >>buildworld finishes in different way. Maybe I'm wrong. > >I think this is the output from compiling the 32-bit compatibility >libraries (lib32). It's a somewhat new thing, maybe 5-6 months old. OK. Then is it safe to continue upgrade? >>Also a long time ago I asked about ips driver from Scott whether it >>supports more than 4GB of RAM. Scott said it is fixed. >>However I'm still wondering is it OK to add 4GB of RAM to existing >>system with ips driver after upgrading machine to RELENG_6? >>A year ago more than 4GB of RAM caused file system break in my system. > >Yes, it should work. If it doesn't please let me know right away. OK, I'll let you know. Ganbold >Scott > From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 7 08:53:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: amd64@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5423616A41F for ; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 08:53:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ru@ip.net.ua) Received: from tigra.ip.net.ua (tigra.ip.net.ua [82.193.96.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 626A143D45 for ; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 08:53:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ru@ip.net.ua) Received: from localhost (rocky.ip.net.ua [82.193.96.2]) by tigra.ip.net.ua (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jB78rPvh072920 for ; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 10:53:25 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru@ip.net.ua) Received: from tigra.ip.net.ua ([82.193.96.10]) by localhost (rocky.ipnet [82.193.96.2]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 03909-01 for ; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 10:53:23 +0200 (EET) Received: from heffalump.ip.net.ua (heffalump.ip.net.ua [82.193.96.213]) by tigra.ip.net.ua (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jB78nZKl072816 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 10:49:35 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru@ip.net.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by heffalump.ip.net.ua (8.13.4/8.13.4) id jB78ndMi048217 for amd64@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 10:49:39 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 10:49:39 +0200 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: amd64@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20051207084939.GE63887@ip.net.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="RpqchZ26BWispMcB" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ip.net.ua Cc: Subject: [ru@FreeBSD.org: install32] X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 08:53:27 -0000 --RpqchZ26BWispMcB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Forwarding this to the list since Peter doesn't reply. If you have an opinion on the subject, please reply. ----- Forwarded message from Ruslan Ermilov ----- Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 22:14:41 +0200 =46rom: Ruslan Ermilov To: Peter Wemm Subject: install32 (was: Re: cvs commit: src Makefile.inc1 src/share/mk bsd= =2Elib.mk bsd.prog.mk) In-Reply-To: <200511190645.jAJ6jjdt077055@repoman.freebsd.org> Hi Peter, On Sat, Nov 19, 2005 at 06:45:45AM +0000, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > ru 2005-11-19 06:45:45 UTC >=20 > FreeBSD src repository >=20 > Modified files: > . Makefile.inc1=20 > share/mk bsd.lib.mk bsd.prog.mk=20 > Log: > Add the NO_INCS knob to bsd.prog.mk and bsd.lib.mk to not include > bsd.incs.mk, and use it when installing 32-bit compat libraries > on amd64. This causes it to *not* overwrite native headers with > i386 versions, which was the case with and . > =20 > PR: amd64/83806 > Prodded by: bde > MFC after: 1 week > =20 > Revision Changes Path > 1.519 +1 -1 src/Makefile.inc1 > 1.170 +3 -1 src/share/mk/bsd.lib.mk > 1.145 +3 -1 src/share/mk/bsd.prog.mk >=20 This commit fixes a breakage but also raises the following question. If we don't install headers, do we need anything except 32-bit rtld and shared libraries? Currently, we also install .a libraries, .o objects, and some data files. ----- End forwarded message ----- Cheers, --=20 Ruslan Ermilov ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer --RpqchZ26BWispMcB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDlqIjqRfpzJluFF4RAukkAJ0TZFMbtgoieOWlDu/f8dMNd3bFNwCeMOo2 Lje2ocPV1CmgTOgtNvPCWtY= =9DlD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --RpqchZ26BWispMcB-- From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 7 09:40:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2FDD16A41F for ; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 09:40:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joseph.koshy@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92D4E43D60 for ; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 09:40:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joseph.koshy@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s9so196900wxc for ; Wed, 07 Dec 2005 01:40:04 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=CtrwCWS3Jwslvv5JsLX1QDM57S/B/DPYHtRBWZcqS8M3slZqdHdoZOLNiPQ6xGBaOl00D+7F2mU3sg5MYvrr/dCIcEArl4kF0ZRRJaW/oI/MeU5NuSBCb7zGd5HZLNCH2zMdqOlI+EvlqL8z230VUW6FFKhB9bvsdnoZXl3CopE= Received: by 10.70.65.4 with SMTP id n4mr1579562wxa; Wed, 07 Dec 2005 01:40:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.105.13 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 01:40:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <84dead720512070140v2d777572y6579decf3697fa9d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 15:10:03 +0530 From: Joseph Koshy To: Ruslan Ermilov In-Reply-To: <20051207084939.GE63887@ip.net.ua> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20051207084939.GE63887@ip.net.ua> Cc: amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [ru@FreeBSD.org: install32] X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 09:40:05 -0000 ru> FreeBSD src repository ru> ru> Modified files: ru> . Makefile.inc1 ru> share/mk bsd.lib.mk bsd.prog.mk ru> Add the NO_INCS knob to bsd.prog.mk and bsd.lib.mk to not include ru> bsd.incs.mk, and use it when installing 32-bit compat libraries ru> on amd64. This causes it to *not* overwrite native headers with ru> i386 versions, which was the case with and . ru> This commit fixes a breakage but also raises the following question. ru> If we don't install headers, do we need anything except 32-bit rtld ru> and shared libraries? Currently, we also install .a libraries, .o ru> objects, and some data files. Why not install all 32 bit stuff under /compat/freebsd-i386/? We currently use directory /usr/lib32 for 32 bit libraries, /usr/libexec/ld-elf32.so.1 for the 32 bit rtld(8) and have no place to keep 32-bit headers. -- FreeBSD Volunteer, http://people.freebsd.org/~jkoshy From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 7 14:27:54 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E719816A420; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 14:27:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from speedfactory.net (mail6.speedfactory.net [66.23.216.219]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47D4743D8A; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 14:27:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (unverified [66.23.211.162]) by speedfactory.net (SurgeMail 3.5b3) with ESMTP id 3319095 for multiple; Wed, 07 Dec 2005 09:29:41 -0500 Received: from zion.baldwin.cx (zion.baldwin.cx [192.168.0.7]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jB7ERYo3056800; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 09:27:34 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 09:15:45 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: <20051207084939.GE63887@ip.net.ua> <84dead720512070140v2d777572y6579decf3697fa9d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <84dead720512070140v2d777572y6579decf3697fa9d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200512070915.47287.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on server.baldwin.cx X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com r=1653887525 Cc: Subject: Re: [ru@FreeBSD.org: install32] X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 14:27:55 -0000 On Wednesday 07 December 2005 04:40 am, Joseph Koshy wrote: > ru> FreeBSD src repository > ru> > ru> Modified files: > ru> . Makefile.inc1 > ru> share/mk bsd.lib.mk bsd.prog.mk > > ru> Add the NO_INCS knob to bsd.prog.mk and bsd.lib.mk to not include > ru> bsd.incs.mk, and use it when installing 32-bit compat libraries > ru> on amd64. This causes it to *not* overwrite native headers with > ru> i386 versions, which was the case with and . > > ru> This commit fixes a breakage but also raises the following question. > ru> If we don't install headers, do we need anything except 32-bit rtld > ru> and shared libraries? Currently, we also install .a libraries, .o > ru> objects, and some data files. > > Why not install all 32 bit stuff under /compat/freebsd-i386/? > > We currently use directory /usr/lib32 for 32 bit libraries, > /usr/libexec/ld-elf32.so.1 for the 32 bit rtld(8) and have no place to > keep 32-bit headers. Maybe put headers in /usr/include32? =2D-=20 John Baldwin =A0<>< =A0http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve" =A0=3D =A0http://www.FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 7 15:10:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1A9516A41F for ; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 15:10:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joseph.koshy@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BD8243D7F for ; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 15:10:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joseph.koshy@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s9so245865wxc for ; Wed, 07 Dec 2005 07:10:18 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=kaX2sitUFq+CBm3LHwkJrNrOsyoERq8fKa7ENUAm46eWoFsHO/ZXKR6SG/ImXdWA78zLWllQ2+0bOEZhrL8avd8TfknKAoUqnkuQoqBDGaI4/2VN9LZ3B1FbC/BRDlZYgusCHMYW46bXZ7i5WahGi0+5oDG5VDleQiDllggU6Ow= Received: by 10.70.65.17 with SMTP id n17mr2308693wxa; Wed, 07 Dec 2005 07:10:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.105.13 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 07:10:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <84dead720512070710m722fd73fl2e6a0c23ad75d863@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 20:40:16 +0530 From: Joseph Koshy To: John Baldwin In-Reply-To: <200512070915.47287.jhb@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20051207084939.GE63887@ip.net.ua> <84dead720512070140v2d777572y6579decf3697fa9d@mail.gmail.com> <200512070915.47287.jhb@freebsd.org> Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [ru@FreeBSD.org: install32] X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 15:10:26 -0000 jk> Why not install all 32 bit stuff under /compat/freebsd-i386/? jb> Maybe put headers in /usr/include32? /compat/--/{bin,lib,include,whatever}/ is a little more future proof, IMHO. For example we may want to support various Linux and Solaris flavors in addition to FreeBSD/ia32. -- FreeBSD Volunteer, http://people.freebsd.org/~jkoshy From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 7 15:18:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8388E16A41F; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 15:18:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ru@ip.net.ua) Received: from tigra.ip.net.ua (tigra.ip.net.ua [82.193.96.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91EBE43D45; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 15:18:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ru@ip.net.ua) Received: from localhost (rocky.ip.net.ua [82.193.96.2]) by tigra.ip.net.ua (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jB7FIZiU088619; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 17:18:35 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru@ip.net.ua) Received: from tigra.ip.net.ua ([82.193.96.10]) by localhost (rocky.ipnet [82.193.96.2]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 07655-01-2; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 17:18:32 +0200 (EET) Received: from heffalump.ip.net.ua (heffalump.ip.net.ua [82.193.96.213]) by tigra.ip.net.ua (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jB7FFTu6088536 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 7 Dec 2005 17:15:29 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru@ip.net.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by heffalump.ip.net.ua (8.13.4/8.13.4) id jB7FFXm3049874; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 17:15:33 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 17:15:33 +0200 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: John Baldwin Message-ID: <20051207151533.GA49848@ip.net.ua> References: <20051207084939.GE63887@ip.net.ua> <84dead720512070140v2d777572y6579decf3697fa9d@mail.gmail.com> <200512070915.47287.jhb@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200512070915.47287.jhb@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ip.net.ua Cc: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [ru@FreeBSD.org: install32] X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 15:18:38 -0000 --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 09:15:45AM -0500, John Baldwin wrote: > On Wednesday 07 December 2005 04:40 am, Joseph Koshy wrote: > > ru> FreeBSD src repository > > ru> > > ru> Modified files: > > ru> . Makefile.inc1 > > ru> share/mk bsd.lib.mk bsd.prog.mk > > > > ru> Add the NO_INCS knob to bsd.prog.mk and bsd.lib.mk to not include > > ru> bsd.incs.mk, and use it when installing 32-bit compat libraries > > ru> on amd64. This causes it to *not* overwrite native headers with > > ru> i386 versions, which was the case with and . > > > > ru> This commit fixes a breakage but also raises the following question. > > ru> If we don't install headers, do we need anything except 32-bit rtld > > ru> and shared libraries? Currently, we also install .a libraries, .o > > ru> objects, and some data files. > > > > Why not install all 32 bit stuff under /compat/freebsd-i386/? > > > > We currently use directory /usr/lib32 for 32 bit libraries, > > /usr/libexec/ld-elf32.so.1 for the 32 bit rtld(8) and have no place to > > keep 32-bit headers. >=20 > Maybe put headers in /usr/include32? >=20 Um, my question was: do we need them at all? 32-bit headers, .a libs, =2Ep libs, startup *crt*.o stuff, etc. Cheers, --=20 Ruslan Ermilov ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDlvyVqRfpzJluFF4RAheGAJ9m0PrRkI2T3CdI3mPDTJBofL8hZgCfflsu H/96wvGpAgDH6YwcYeTNb1A= =v5qp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C-- From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 7 16:25:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38BF416A41F; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 16:25:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from speedfactory.net (mail6.speedfactory.net [66.23.216.219]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 152C943D46; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 16:25:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (unverified [66.23.211.162]) by speedfactory.net (SurgeMail 3.5b3) with ESMTP id 3325703 for multiple; Wed, 07 Dec 2005 11:27:17 -0500 Received: from localhost (john@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jB7GPAfu057488; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 11:25:10 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: Joseph Koshy Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 11:24:39 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 References: <20051207084939.GE63887@ip.net.ua> <200512070915.47287.jhb@freebsd.org> <84dead720512070710m722fd73fl2e6a0c23ad75d863@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <84dead720512070710m722fd73fl2e6a0c23ad75d863@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200512071124.40319.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on server.baldwin.cx X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com r=1653887525 Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [ru@FreeBSD.org: install32] X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 16:25:19 -0000 On Wednesday 07 December 2005 10:10 am, Joseph Koshy wrote: > jk> Why not install all 32 bit stuff under /compat/freebsd-i386/? > > jb> Maybe put headers in /usr/include32? > > /compat/--/{bin,lib,include,whatever}/ > is a little more future proof, IMHO. > > For example we may want to support various Linux and Solaris > flavors in addition to FreeBSD/ia32. Peter has been trying to avoid that for native 32-bit apps on a given 64-bit platform (such as FreeBSD/i386 on amd64 or ia64 or sparcv8 on FreeBSD/sparc64). That's why there is /usr/lib32, LD32_LIBRARY_PATH, etc. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve" = http://www.FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 7 16:57:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E7C816A41F for ; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 16:57:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from popov.max@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89B3243D4C for ; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 16:57:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from popov.max@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i21so242180wra for ; Wed, 07 Dec 2005 08:57:03 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=SQdMWk1vhvflJspXSPMfXC1nScML/JudyAjVgA9273hUbj5wVudyR8ASuZoEe17L+Z+YH5N3zsByk/wtMK2PQT4iIMWa+2+pdLc14FkZ1IPl9wKVGSMH/hyJkQYNlvkAgaYJm2+oxXmRUzN9Shr0J3txbfSiiodFUUIyID/qCC8= Received: by 10.65.61.2 with SMTP id o2mr1902834qbk; Wed, 07 Dec 2005 08:57:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.196.13 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 08:57:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4bdd3edf0512070857q671240a3j@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 18:57:02 +0200 From: Popov Maxim To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: USB Mouse works, but ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 16:57:05 -0000 I have a wireless mouse and keyboard. Mouse works, but not very well ... When i move it, the cursor moves too, but with very slow and with little "jumps". If i move it faster, the jumps are bigger ... Clicks don't work. To do a click i must press the button, then move it on few pixels on right or left. dmesg says: dmesg | grep kbd ukbd0: MOSART Semi. Wireless Keyboard & Mouse, rev 1.10/1.00, addr 2, iclas= s 3/1 kbd0 at ukbd0 dmesg | grep mouse ums0: MOSART Semi. Wireless Keyboard & Mouse, rev 1.10/1.00, addr 2, iclass= 3/1 ums0: 5 buttons and Z dir. ps -aux | grep mouse root 275 0,0 0,2 2420 908 ?? Ss 18:37 0:00,05 /usr/sbin/mous= ed - From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 7 20:25:17 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7667C16A41F for ; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 20:25:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from syjef@mdanderson.org) Received: from mail.mdanderson.org (mail.mdanderson.org [143.111.251.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D43EA43D5F for ; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 20:25:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from syjef@mdanderson.org) Received: from jef-nt.mdacc.tmc.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jef-nt.mdacc.tmc.edu (8.12.10/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jB7KOI7V032618; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 14:24:18 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from syjef@mdanderson.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by jef-nt.mdacc.tmc.edu (8.12.10/8.12.11/Submit) id jB7KOHUv032617; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 14:24:17 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from syjef@mdanderson.org) X-Authentication-Warning: jef-nt.mdacc.tmc.edu: syjef set sender to syjef@mdanderson.org using -f From: Jonathan Fosburgh To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 14:24:17 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: <4bdd3edf0512070857q671240a3j@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4bdd3edf0512070857q671240a3j@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200512071424.17804.syjef@mdanderson.org> Cc: Popov Maxim Subject: Re: USB Mouse works, but ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 20:25:17 -0000 On Wednesday 07 December 2005 10:57 am, Popov Maxim wrote: > I have a wireless mouse and keyboard. Mouse works, but not very well > ... When i move it, the cursor moves too, but with very slow and with > little "jumps". If i move it faster, the jumps are bigger ... > Clicks don't work. To do a click i must press the button, then move it > on few pixels on right or left. > dmesg says: Exactly what I had with a Logitech USB wireless keyboard/mouse combo. Please apply the appropriate patch in usb/77604. For some reason some of the characters (such as = and -) became corrupted. If you need help reading it let me know, I'll clean it up. You don't mention which release of FreeBSD you are running so I don't know which (RELENG_5 or RELENG_6 and CURRENT) you need. Maybe someone will eventually commit this fix that has been outstanding for almost a year. Dragonfly commited a similar fix within a couple of weeks... From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 7 23:16:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F9A516A423; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 23:16:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C601243D80; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 23:15:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jB7NFd3K029485; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 15:15:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.NUXI.org) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id jB7NFdpw029484; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 15:15:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 15:15:39 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Ruslan Ermilov Message-ID: <20051207231539.GA29443@dragon.NUXI.org> References: <20051207084939.GE63887@ip.net.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051207084939.GE63887@ip.net.ua> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [ru@FreeBSD.org: install32] X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 23:16:05 -0000 On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 10:49:39AM +0200, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > Forwarding this to the list since Peter doesn't reply. If you > have an opinion on the subject, please reply. .. > > . Makefile.inc1 > > share/mk bsd.lib.mk bsd.prog.mk > > Log: > > Add the NO_INCS knob to bsd.prog.mk and bsd.lib.mk to not include > > bsd.incs.mk, and use it when installing 32-bit compat libraries > > on amd64. This causes it to *not* overwrite native headers with > > i386 versions, which was the case with and . .. > This commit fixes a breakage but also raises the following question. > If we don't install headers, do we need anything except 32-bit rtld > and shared libraries? Currently, we also install .a libraries, .o > objects, and some data files. At the moment we don't support building 32-bit binaries on a 64-bit host. So we don't want .a's and .o's installed. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) Q: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. A: Why is top-posting (putting a reply at the top of the message) frowned upon? From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 7 23:18:00 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3664516A41F; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 23:18:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A854743D6A; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 23:17:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jB7NHba7029506; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 15:17:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.NUXI.org) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id jB7NHbqm029505; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 15:17:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 15:17:37 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Joseph Koshy Message-ID: <20051207231737.GB29443@dragon.NUXI.org> References: <20051207084939.GE63887@ip.net.ua> <84dead720512070140v2d777572y6579decf3697fa9d@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <84dead720512070140v2d777572y6579decf3697fa9d@mail.gmail.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [ru@FreeBSD.org: install32] X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 23:18:00 -0000 On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 03:10:03PM +0530, Joseph Koshy wrote: > ru> FreeBSD src repository > ru> > ru> Modified files: > ru> . Makefile.inc1 > ru> share/mk bsd.lib.mk bsd.prog.mk > > ru> Add the NO_INCS knob to bsd.prog.mk and bsd.lib.mk to not include > ru> bsd.incs.mk, and use it when installing 32-bit compat libraries > ru> on amd64. This causes it to *not* overwrite native headers with > ru> i386 versions, which was the case with and . > > ru> This commit fixes a breakage but also raises the following question. > ru> If we don't install headers, do we need anything except 32-bit rtld > ru> and shared libraries? Currently, we also install .a libraries, .o > ru> objects, and some data files. > > Why not install all 32 bit stuff under /compat/freebsd-i386/? I'm convensed we need to support /compat/freebsd-i386 if we have any hopes of using 32-bit ports on FreeBSD/AMD64. > We currently use directory /usr/lib32 for 32 bit libraries, > /usr/libexec/ld-elf32.so.1 for the 32 bit rtld(8) and have no place to > keep 32-bit headers. We still want to install the 32-bit shared libs as we do today - they aren't fully ABI compatable with FreeBSD/i386 (because we do certain optimizations) - but they don't need to be as they just need to be ABI and API compatable with the published extern interfaces. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) Q: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. A: Why is top-posting (putting a reply at the top of the message) frowned upon? From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 7 23:18:46 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D86716A422; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 23:18:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28B9243D8D; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 23:18:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jB7NI7jV029520; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 15:18:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.NUXI.org) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id jB7NI7N6029519; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 15:18:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 15:18:07 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: John Baldwin Message-ID: <20051207231807.GC29443@dragon.NUXI.org> References: <20051207084939.GE63887@ip.net.ua> <84dead720512070140v2d777572y6579decf3697fa9d@mail.gmail.com> <200512070915.47287.jhb@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200512070915.47287.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [ru@FreeBSD.org: install32] X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 23:18:46 -0000 On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 09:15:45AM -0500, John Baldwin wrote: > On Wednesday 07 December 2005 04:40 am, Joseph Koshy wrote: > > ru> FreeBSD src repository > > ru> > > ru> Modified files: > > ru> . Makefile.inc1 > > ru> share/mk bsd.lib.mk bsd.prog.mk > > > > ru> Add the NO_INCS knob to bsd.prog.mk and bsd.lib.mk to not include > > ru> bsd.incs.mk, and use it when installing 32-bit compat libraries > > ru> on amd64. This causes it to *not* overwrite native headers with > > ru> i386 versions, which was the case with and . > > > > ru> This commit fixes a breakage but also raises the following question. > > ru> If we don't install headers, do we need anything except 32-bit rtld > > ru> and shared libraries? Currently, we also install .a libraries, .o > > ru> objects, and some data files. > > > > Why not install all 32 bit stuff under /compat/freebsd-i386/? > > > > We currently use directory /usr/lib32 for 32 bit libraries, > > /usr/libexec/ld-elf32.so.1 for the 32 bit rtld(8) and have no place to > > keep 32-bit headers. > > Maybe put headers in /usr/include32? /usr/include/i386 is where they should go - to be clear what arch they are for. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) Q: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. A: Why is top-posting (putting a reply at the top of the message) frowned upon? From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 8 03:21:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE79416A420 for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 03:21:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tcumming123@gmail.com) Received: from nproxy.gmail.com (nproxy.gmail.com [64.233.182.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC32C43D45 for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 03:21:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tcumming123@gmail.com) Received: by nproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id l37so173593nfc for ; Wed, 07 Dec 2005 19:21:20 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=QWTFkdBjQk1Y9LHKBMarTpY721nkfL7oh1T8AfwXTDipHETmtXDcbwlg9Sk4h5P1YCHTuiajS/Qe9nJ8yc0i66F1nwDVdves/jocK/ZQ4K/3kfszCAkwv63u1Iorvp6lpba9XQzbXykTTroli6Zl8yJ9DIS32wVZe8mGWfWa4TI= Received: by 10.48.162.17 with SMTP id k17mr171990nfe; Wed, 07 Dec 2005 19:21:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.48.162.4 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 19:21:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 19:21:20 -0800 From: Tom Cumming To: Magikman In-Reply-To: <43927A1D.9090003@cox.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <43927A1D.9090003@cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0-Release AMD64 3DM2 3ware 7506-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 03:21:22 -0000 > I am having some trouble getting 3dm2 up and running on my > server. I have installed via the ports and i have also downloaded the > software from 3ware's support site. However, none seem to work for me. > If anyone has this working, could you tell me what, exactly, i need to do= . What do you mean by, "not working"? Can you be more specific? I can't help you with, "not working". tom.c From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 8 06:23:57 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F29616A41F; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 06:23:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ru@ip.net.ua) Received: from tigra.ip.net.ua (tigra.ip.net.ua [82.193.96.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4BD043D62; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 06:23:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ru@ip.net.ua) Received: from localhost (rocky.ip.net.ua [82.193.96.2]) by tigra.ip.net.ua (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jB86NeZj022732; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 08:23:40 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru@ip.net.ua) Received: from tigra.ip.net.ua ([82.193.96.10]) by localhost (rocky.ipnet [82.193.96.2]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 20546-02; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 08:23:39 +0200 (EET) Received: from heffalump.ip.net.ua (heffalump.ip.net.ua [82.193.96.213]) by tigra.ip.net.ua (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jB86M6TL022702 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 8 Dec 2005 08:22:06 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru@ip.net.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by heffalump.ip.net.ua (8.13.4/8.13.4) id jB86MBWH032656; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 08:22:11 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 08:22:11 +0200 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: "David O'Brien" Message-ID: <20051208062211.GF51156@ip.net.ua> References: <20051207084939.GE63887@ip.net.ua> <20051207231539.GA29443@dragon.NUXI.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="/2994txjAzEdQwm5" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051207231539.GA29443@dragon.NUXI.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ip.net.ua Cc: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [ru@FreeBSD.org: install32] X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 06:23:57 -0000 --/2994txjAzEdQwm5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 03:15:39PM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: > On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 10:49:39AM +0200, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > Forwarding this to the list since Peter doesn't reply. If you > > have an opinion on the subject, please reply. > .. > > > . Makefile.inc1=20 > > > share/mk bsd.lib.mk bsd.prog.mk=20 > > > Log: > > > Add the NO_INCS knob to bsd.prog.mk and bsd.lib.mk to not include > > > bsd.incs.mk, and use it when installing 32-bit compat libraries > > > on amd64. This causes it to *not* overwrite native headers with > > > i386 versions, which was the case with and . > .. > > This commit fixes a breakage but also raises the following question. > > If we don't install headers, do we need anything except 32-bit rtld > > and shared libraries? Currently, we also install .a libraries, .o > > objects, and some data files. >=20 > At the moment we don't support building 32-bit binaries on a 64-bit host. > So we don't want .a's and .o's installed. >=20 Well, we do (to some extent), but I'm not sure if we want it or not: : $ uname -p : amd64 : $ cat a.c : #include : int main(void) { printf("Hello, world!\n"); return (0); } : $ cc -m32 -B/usr/lib32 -L/usr/lib32 -o a a.c : $ file a : a: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (FreeBSD), dynamical= ly linked (uses shared libs), not stripped : $ ./a : Hello, world! Cheers, --=20 Ruslan Ermilov ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer --/2994txjAzEdQwm5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDl9ETqRfpzJluFF4RApsTAJ9fJqJrs1AdYBP2YI34wcNAuLxCHgCdHCSw wpZfkGk9jKAvUgXRSLixDGM= =qrxI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --/2994txjAzEdQwm5-- From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 8 06:27:35 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ED7416A41F; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 06:27:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ganbold@micom.mng.net) Received: from publicd.ub.mng.net (publicd.ub.mng.net [202.179.0.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D48343D83; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 06:27:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ganbold@micom.mng.net) Received: from [202.179.0.164] (helo=ganbold.micom.mng.net) by publicd.ub.mng.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.53 (FreeBSD)) id 1EkFLK-000DKK-6K; Thu, 08 Dec 2005 14:33:26 +0800 Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.0.20051208141829.035d73a8@micom.mng.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 14:27:18 +0800 To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org From: Ganbold Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: andre@freebsd.org, rwatson@FreeBSD.org Subject: tcp.sack and debug.mpsafenet in FreeBSD 6.0/AMD64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 06:27:35 -0000 Hi, I just upgraded FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE/AMD64 successfully to FreeBSD 6.0-STABLE/AMD64. I was using debug.mpsafenet=0 and net.inet.tcp.sack.enable=0 with 5.3/AMD64 due to TCP SACK/MPSAFENET bug. Is it safe to enable these in 6.0 now? thanks, Ganbold I didn't put yet additional 4GB RAM. I will try it later. From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 8 07:10:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E59B16A420; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 07:10:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rwatso@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [209.31.154.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F2D643D5A; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 07:10:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rwatso@FreeBSD.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [209.31.154.41]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C50B46B9C; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 02:10:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 07:10:12 +0000 (GMT) From: Robert Watson X-X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: Ganbold In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.0.20051208141829.035d73a8@micom.mng.net> Message-ID: <20051208070431.K89534@fledge.watson.org> References: <7.0.0.16.0.20051208141829.035d73a8@micom.mng.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: andre@freebsd.org, freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tcp.sack and debug.mpsafenet in FreeBSD 6.0/AMD64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 07:10:22 -0000 On Thu, 8 Dec 2005, Ganbold wrote: > I just upgraded FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE/AMD64 successfully to FreeBSD > 6.0-STABLE/AMD64. I was using debug.mpsafenet=0 and > net.inet.tcp.sack.enable=0 with 5.3/AMD64 due to TCP SACK/MPSAFENET bug. Is > it safe to enable these in 6.0 now? I can't speak to the specifics of your confiugration and situation, but can say that a number of significant bugs in the TCP and socket code have been fixed since 5.3-RELEASE. If any problems with networking do persiste for you in RELENG_6, please let me know. Robert N M Watson From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 8 12:58:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD88916A41F for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 12:58:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from popov.max@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF90743D7D for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 12:58:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from popov.max@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so960766wri for ; Thu, 08 Dec 2005 04:58:01 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=M5SnOhnkZweAwRRaP83kfO8SjInmI/hlQA2d5aJpLXkTIQmtG4ADRqEpc3f1dQsSLIbVcXoIgVPzhJToouihovOBBuSNH6p3E0A47IMPsCG0G+6ygck/N3DWthzPlCP4/7/QFsCURSE1V64K7IbwfmE+74W02Z86RooACMphvW4= Received: by 10.64.185.2 with SMTP id i2mr2741592qbf; Thu, 08 Dec 2005 04:58:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.196.13 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 04:58:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4bdd3edf0512080458lfbecd2m@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 14:58:01 +0200 From: Popov Maxim To: jonathan@fosburgh.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: USB Mouse works, but ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 12:58:14 -0000 Thanks, now it works very well ! (exceptly side buttons) ... From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 8 13:11:37 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1973416A41F for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 13:11:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonathan@fosburgh.org) Received: from mail.mdanderson.org (mail.mdanderson.org [143.111.251.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A115143D7F for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 13:11:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonathan@fosburgh.org) Received: from jef-nt.mdacc.tmc.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jef-nt.mdacc.tmc.edu (8.12.10/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jB8DB37V034111; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 07:11:03 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jonathan@fosburgh.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by jef-nt.mdacc.tmc.edu (8.12.10/8.12.11/Submit) id jB8DB22v034110; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 07:11:02 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jonathan@fosburgh.org) X-Authentication-Warning: jef-nt.mdacc.tmc.edu: syjef set sender to jonathan@fosburgh.org using -f From: Jonathan Fosburgh To: Popov Maxim Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 07:11:02 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: <4bdd3edf0512080458lfbecd2m@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4bdd3edf0512080458lfbecd2m@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200512080711.02501.jonathan@fosburgh.org> Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB Mouse works, but ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 13:11:37 -0000 On Thursday 08 December 2005 06:58 am, Popov Maxim wrote: > Thanks, now it works very well ! (exceptly side buttons) ... There you'll probably need to tweak your xorg.conf file. I've never tried to use the special buttons on my mouse so I really don't know what you need to do. Maybe someone on this list will take an interest in those patches and try to get them commited. This is now the second non-Logitech mouse the patch is known to fix. From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 8 14:19:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85F2716A41F for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 14:19:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nugget@slacker.com) Received: from dazed.slacker.com (dazed.slacker.com [68.93.27.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C9D843D80 for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 14:19:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nugget@slacker.com) Received: by dazed.slacker.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B2BFABDE31; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 08:19:36 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 08:19:36 -0600 From: David McNett To: Tom Cumming Message-ID: <20051208141936.GA40298@slacker.com> References: <43927A1D.9090003@cox.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Image-Url: http://slacker.com/~nugget/images/me64.jpg X-Face: $|):m*5Dzpmv<0]ES1U00?k=:H+c+LP&2N%e+wdP6n?EPKm= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 14:19:49 -0000 On 07-Dec-2005, Tom Cumming wrote: > What do you mean by, "not working"? Can you be more specific? I can't > help you with, "not working". I'm not the original poster, but I presume he's referring to 3dmd's inability to bind to its port when running in amd64. I've never been able to get 3dmd to successfully listen on a port (and thus provide its web interface) except on i386 systems. It doesn't crash, it just runs without listening for connections. -- David McNett http://slacker.com/~nugget/ From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 8 17:16:34 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B480316A41F for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 17:16:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wayne@manor.msen.com) Received: from manor.msen.com (manor.msen.com [148.59.4.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75AA143D76 for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 17:16:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wayne@manor.msen.com) Received: from manor.msen.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by manor.msen.com (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id jB8HGT3a025452 for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 12:16:29 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from wayne@manor.msen.com) Received: (from wayne@localhost) by manor.msen.com (8.12.9p2/8.12.9/Submit) id jB8HGSpo025451 for freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 12:16:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from wayne) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 12:16:28 -0500 From: "Michael R. Wayne" To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051208171628.GI70798@manor.msen.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org References: <43927A1D.9090003@cox.net> <20051208141936.GA40298@slacker.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051208141936.GA40298@slacker.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0-Release AMD64 3DM2 3ware 7506-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 17:16:34 -0000 On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 08:19:36AM -0600, David McNett wrote: > On 07-Dec-2005, Tom Cumming wrote: > > What do you mean by, "not working"? Can you be more specific? I can't > > help you with, "not working". > > I'm not the original poster, but I presume he's referring to 3dmd's inability > to bind to its port when running in amd64. I've never been able to get 3dmd > to successfully listen on a port (and thus provide its web interface) except > on i386 systems. > > It doesn't crash, it just runs without listening for connections. I wasted a call to tech support on this a while back. Note that 3ware changed to use https with recent releases, you will get no response on http. /\/\ \/\/ From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 8 18:05:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6752D16A41F for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 18:05:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from david@jetnet.co.uk) Received: from kosh.jetnet.co.uk (kosh.jetnet.co.uk [80.87.128.128]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94ED943D8E for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 18:05:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from david@jetnet.co.uk) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kosh.jetnet.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B2152ACE5 for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 18:05:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kosh.jetnet.co.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.jetnet.co.uk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 91020-05-2 for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 18:05:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (82-69-108-39.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk [82.69.108.39]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by kosh.jetnet.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A169212AA for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 18:05:04 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <439875CF.5020006@jetnet.co.uk> Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 18:05:03 +0000 From: David Reid User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051130) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at jetnet.co.uk Subject: how to get more info X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 18:05:28 -0000 I'm running -STABLE and at present I'm being lucky to get more than 6 hours uptime! The problem (and reason for this email) is to ask if there is anything I can do to try and get more info on th crashes to help debug and correct them. When the system goes it just reboots, no panic or information written to any logs. It's been doing it for a while but the last few days have seen it happening more often. I'm running a GENERIC kernel with WITNESS enabled. I'm more than willing to try and help find/fix the problem, but the lack of information is stopping me from doing much! Thanks david From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 8 18:07:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A10A16A420 for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 18:07:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E66E43D81 for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 18:07:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id jB8I7WgJ005104; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 10:07:32 -0800 Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0/Submit) id jB8I7WpB005103; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 10:07:32 -0800 Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 10:07:32 -0800 From: Brooks Davis To: David Reid Message-ID: <20051208180732.GA23742@odin.ac.hmc.edu> References: <439875CF.5020006@jetnet.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="wac7ysb48OaltWcw" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <439875CF.5020006@jetnet.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=8.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on odin.ac.hmc.edu Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to get more info X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 18:07:43 -0000 --wac7ysb48OaltWcw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 06:05:03PM +0000, David Reid wrote: > I'm running -STABLE and at present I'm being lucky to get more than 6 > hours uptime! The problem (and reason for this email) is to ask if there > is anything I can do to try and get more info on th crashes to help > debug and correct them. When the system goes it just reboots, no panic > or information written to any logs. It's been doing it for a while but > the last few days have seen it happening more often. >=20 > I'm running a GENERIC kernel with WITNESS enabled. I'm more than willing > to try and help find/fix the problem, but the lack of information is > stopping me from doing much! While there are other possibilities, this sounds a lot like a hardware problem. Have you tried running memtest86 on the machine -- Brooks --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --wac7ysb48OaltWcw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDmHZjXY6L6fI4GtQRAoytAKDjkh449+YdSRL1ATm2F1ihvPuDDACfT7VM K6Pp2d6nPjxiKQW/ZcTPsXk= =7AEf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --wac7ysb48OaltWcw-- From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 8 20:33:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9A0C16A420; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 20:33:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from glebius@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4414943D5A; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 20:33:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from glebius@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (glebius@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jB8KWbSq089458; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 20:32:37 GMT (envelope-from glebius@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from glebius@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id jB8KWbQP089454; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 20:32:37 GMT (envelope-from glebius) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 20:32:37 GMT From: Gleb Smirnoff Message-Id: <200512082032.jB8KWbQP089454@freefall.freebsd.org> To: pete@twisted.org.uk, glebius@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: amd64/70500: [bge] bge driver for 3Com 3C996B on amd64 prevents clean reboot into WIndows X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 20:33:20 -0000 Synopsis: [bge] bge driver for 3Com 3C996B on amd64 prevents clean reboot into WIndows State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: glebius State-Changed-When: Thu Dec 8 20:31:53 GMT 2005 State-Changed-Why: This doesn't look like FreeBSD problem. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=70500 From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 8 21:15:12 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA19516A41F for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 21:15:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from david@jetnet.co.uk) Received: from kosh.jetnet.co.uk (kosh.jetnet.co.uk [80.87.128.128]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9EFF43D72 for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 21:14:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from david@jetnet.co.uk) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kosh.jetnet.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5660D2B0E4; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 21:14:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kosh.jetnet.co.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.jetnet.co.uk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 93162-01; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 21:14:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.0.40] (82-69-108-39.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk [82.69.108.39]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by kosh.jetnet.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0410C20A6F; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 21:14:42 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <4398A23E.20405@jetnet.co.uk> Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 21:14:38 +0000 From: david reid User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brooks Davis References: <439875CF.5020006@jetnet.co.uk> <20051208180732.GA23742@odin.ac.hmc.edu> In-Reply-To: <20051208180732.GA23742@odin.ac.hmc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at jetnet.co.uk Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to get more info X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 21:15:13 -0000 Brooks Davis wrote: > On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 06:05:03PM +0000, David Reid wrote: > >>I'm running -STABLE and at present I'm being lucky to get more than 6 >>hours uptime! The problem (and reason for this email) is to ask if there >>is anything I can do to try and get more info on th crashes to help >>debug and correct them. When the system goes it just reboots, no panic >>or information written to any logs. It's been doing it for a while but >>the last few days have seen it happening more often. >> >>I'm running a GENERIC kernel with WITNESS enabled. I'm more than willing >>to try and help find/fix the problem, but the lack of information is >>stopping me from doing much! > > > While there are other possibilities, this sounds a lot like a hardware > problem. Have you tried running memtest86 on the machine memtest86 reports no errors in repeated running - though I am running it again at the moment, but in 3 hours of tests this time it hasn't shown any errors :-( david From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 8 21:57:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 938D816A41F for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 21:57:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17F2043D7B for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 21:57:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id jB8LvLg7006061; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 13:57:21 -0800 Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0/Submit) id jB8LvLxe006060; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 13:57:21 -0800 Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 13:57:21 -0800 From: Brooks Davis To: david reid Message-ID: <20051208215721.GA5759@odin.ac.hmc.edu> References: <439875CF.5020006@jetnet.co.uk> <20051208180732.GA23742@odin.ac.hmc.edu> <4398A23E.20405@jetnet.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4398A23E.20405@jetnet.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=8.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on odin.ac.hmc.edu Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to get more info X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 21:57:24 -0000 --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 09:14:38PM +0000, david reid wrote: > Brooks Davis wrote: > >On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 06:05:03PM +0000, David Reid wrote: > > > >>I'm running -STABLE and at present I'm being lucky to get more than 6 > >>hours uptime! The problem (and reason for this email) is to ask if there > >>is anything I can do to try and get more info on th crashes to help > >>debug and correct them. When the system goes it just reboots, no panic > >>or information written to any logs. It's been doing it for a while but > >>the last few days have seen it happening more often. > >> > >>I'm running a GENERIC kernel with WITNESS enabled. I'm more than willing > >>to try and help find/fix the problem, but the lack of information is > >>stopping me from doing much! > > > > > >While there are other possibilities, this sounds a lot like a hardware > >problem. Have you tried running memtest86 on the machine >=20 > memtest86 reports no errors in repeated running - though I am running it= =20 > again at the moment, but in 3 hours of tests this time it hasn't shown=20 > any errors :-( OK, it may take longer than that to trigger a problem, but it's at least not a blatantly obvious memory issue. Are you running X when the system reboots? If so, you may be getting a panic message that you can't see because of that. Do you have DDB in your kernel config? -- Brooks --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDmKxAXY6L6fI4GtQRAswMAKCvT4LudepwZwvIsarF6+MyiYWknwCgqm8W na0SNfH0pvX/R80vvaSSe8M= =zg+c -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY-- From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 9 00:35:17 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F375A16A420 for ; Fri, 9 Dec 2005 00:35:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tcumming123@gmail.com) Received: from nproxy.gmail.com (nproxy.gmail.com [64.233.182.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6591543D4C for ; Fri, 9 Dec 2005 00:34:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tcumming123@gmail.com) Received: by nproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id l37so271107nfc for ; Thu, 08 Dec 2005 16:34:58 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=IlL3O2EGZN8jtaWRSgSMTQtBHtzFn+VnnM2RPoqvmxMU02ppgJcyezuIUjbrdo7HGSNHamJ/X71NFw6AHMeudmbnkDxn9xZJjoAVPz8InqRPsgUaWWxo0RdmdmXzJe2BLG8KozPLBPMWfjJHDizDHSdUzlpDD0pknaYYI3iT50U= Received: by 10.48.1.17 with SMTP id 17mr382103nfa; Thu, 08 Dec 2005 16:34:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.48.162.4 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 16:34:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 16:34:57 -0800 From: Tom Cumming To: Magikman In-Reply-To: <43927A1D.9090003@cox.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <43927A1D.9090003@cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0-Release AMD64 3DM2 3ware 7506-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 00:35:17 -0000 > I am having some trouble getting 3dm2 up and running on my > server. I have installed via the ports and i have also downloaded the > software from 3ware's support site. However, none seem to work for me. > If anyone has this working, could you tell me what, exactly, i need to do= . The problem is: CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.80GHz (2800.11-MHz K8-class CPU) The SSL library 3ware is using only works for 32 bit, so 64 bit isn't supported (yet). I believe the CLI works fine (of course I say that, being = a CLI snob). tom.c From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 9 01:04:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E459816A41F; Fri, 9 Dec 2005 01:04:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: from smarthost1.sentex.ca (smarthost1.sentex.ca [64.7.153.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2546743D6A; Fri, 9 Dec 2005 01:04:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp2.sentex.ca (smtp2c.sentex.ca [64.7.153.30]) by smarthost1.sentex.ca (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jB914Pse028988; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 20:04:25 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: from freebsd-current.sentex.ca (freebsd-current.sentex.ca [64.7.128.98]) by smtp2.sentex.ca (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jB914Pwe076978; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 20:04:25 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: by freebsd-current.sentex.ca (Postfix, from userid 666) id 514D67302F; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 20:04:25 -0500 (EST) Sender: FreeBSD Tinderbox From: FreeBSD Tinderbox To: FreeBSD Tinderbox , , Precedence: bulk Message-Id: <20051209010425.514D67302F@freebsd-current.sentex.ca> Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 20:04:25 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.85.1, clamav-milter version 0.85 on clamscanner2 X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.51 on 64.7.153.18 Cc: Subject: [head tinderbox] failure on amd64/amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 01:04:28 -0000 TB --- 2005-12-08 23:26:18 - tinderbox 2.3 running on freebsd-current.sentex.ca TB --- 2005-12-08 23:26:18 - starting HEAD tinderbox run for amd64/amd64 TB --- 2005-12-08 23:26:18 - cleaning the object tree TB --- 2005-12-08 23:26:55 - checking out the source tree TB --- 2005-12-08 23:26:55 - cd /tinderbox/HEAD/amd64/amd64 TB --- 2005-12-08 23:26:55 - /usr/bin/cvs -f -R -q -d/home/ncvs update -Pd -A src TB --- 2005-12-08 23:33:00 - building world (CFLAGS=-O2 -pipe) TB --- 2005-12-08 23:33:00 - cd /src TB --- 2005-12-08 23:33:00 - /usr/bin/make -B buildworld >>> Rebuilding the temporary build tree >>> stage 1.1: legacy release compatibility shims >>> stage 1.2: bootstrap tools >>> stage 2.1: cleaning up the object tree >>> stage 2.2: rebuilding the object tree >>> stage 2.3: build tools >>> stage 3: cross tools >>> stage 4.1: building includes >>> stage 4.2: building libraries >>> stage 4.3: make dependencies >>> stage 4.4: building everything >>> stage 5.1: building 32 bit shim libraries TB --- 2005-12-09 01:03:54 - generating LINT kernel config TB --- 2005-12-09 01:03:54 - cd /src/sys/amd64/conf TB --- 2005-12-09 01:03:54 - /usr/bin/make -B LINT TB --- 2005-12-09 01:03:54 - building LINT kernel (COPTFLAGS=-O2 -pipe) TB --- 2005-12-09 01:03:54 - cd /src TB --- 2005-12-09 01:03:54 - /usr/bin/make buildkernel KERNCONF=LINT >>> Kernel build for LINT started on Fri Dec 9 01:03:55 UTC 2005 >>> stage 1: configuring the kernel >>> stage 2.1: cleaning up the object tree >>> stage 2.2: rebuilding the object tree >>> stage 2.3: build tools >>> stage 3.1: making dependencies [...] from /src/sys/net/if.h:390, from /src/sys/amd64/amd64/genassym.c:60: /src/sys/sys/mbuf.h: In function `m_getjcl': /src/sys/sys/mbuf.h:424: error: duplicate case value /src/sys/sys/mbuf.h:421: error: previously used here /src/sys/sys/mbuf.h: In function `m_cljget': /src/sys/sys/mbuf.h:488: error: duplicate case value /src/sys/sys/mbuf.h:485: error: previously used here *** Error code 1 Stop in /obj/amd64/src/sys/LINT. *** Error code 1 Stop in /src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /src. 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(mikej@rogers.com@66.96.18.43 with plain) by smtp100.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Dec 2005 04:20:47 -0000 Message-ID: <43990628.9040101@rogers.com> Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 23:20:56 -0500 From: Mike Jakubik User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051025) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: make build/install world builds 32bit libraries without request X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 04:20:54 -0000 Hi, I am updating a 5.4 system to 6-stable, and i noticed that buildworld is building 32bit compatible libraries, as seen below: cc -m32 -march=athlon-xp -msse2 -mfancy-math-387 -DCOMPAT_32BIT -I/usr/obj/usr/src/lib32/usr/include -L/usr/obj/usr/src/lib32/usr/lib32 -B/usr/obj/usr/src/lib32/usr/lib32 -pg -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -I/usr/src/lib/libc/include -I/usr/src/lib/libc/../../include -I/usr/src/lib/libc/i386 -D__DBINTERFACE_PRIVATE -I/usr/src/lib/libc/../../contrib/gdtoa -DINET6 -I/usr/obj/lib32/usr/src/lib/libc -DPOSIX_MISTAKE -I/usr/src/lib/libc/locale -DBROKEN_DES -DPORTMAP -DDES_BUILTIN -I/usr/src/lib/libc/rpc -DYP -DHESIOD -Wsystem-headers -Werror -Wall -Wno-format-y2k -Wno-uninitialized -c /usr/src/lib/libc/net/getifaddrs.c -o getifaddrs.po Why is it doing this? I have not specified that i want or need any 32bit compatibility. From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 9 04:23:39 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CD8316A41F for ; Fri, 9 Dec 2005 04:23:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAD7D43D75 for ; Fri, 9 Dec 2005 04:23:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FB551A3C1A; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 20:23:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BC05151593; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 23:23:31 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 23:23:31 -0500 From: Kris Kennaway To: Mike Jakubik Message-ID: <20051209042331.GA39114@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <43990628.9040101@rogers.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43990628.9040101@rogers.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make build/install world builds 32bit libraries without request X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 04:23:39 -0000 --k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 11:20:56PM -0500, Mike Jakubik wrote: > Hi, >=20 > I am updating a 5.4 system to 6-stable, and i noticed that buildworld is= =20 > building 32bit compatible libraries, as seen below: >=20 > cc -m32 -march=3Dathlon-xp -msse2 -mfancy-math-387 -DCOMPAT_32BIT =20 > -I/usr/obj/usr/src/lib32/usr/include =20 > -L/usr/obj/usr/src/lib32/usr/lib32 -B/usr/obj/usr/src/lib32/usr/lib32=20 > -pg -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -I/usr/src/lib/libc/include=20 > -I/usr/src/lib/libc/../../include -I/usr/src/lib/libc/i386=20 > -D__DBINTERFACE_PRIVATE -I/usr/src/lib/libc/../../contrib/gdtoa -DINET6= =20 > -I/usr/obj/lib32/usr/src/lib/libc -DPOSIX_MISTAKE=20 > -I/usr/src/lib/libc/locale -DBROKEN_DES -DPORTMAP -DDES_BUILTIN=20 > -I/usr/src/lib/libc/rpc -DYP -DHESIOD -Wsystem-headers -Werror -Wall=20 > -Wno-format-y2k -Wno-uninitialized -c /usr/src/lib/libc/net/getifaddrs.c= =20 > -o getifaddrs.po >=20 > Why is it doing this? I have not specified that i want or need any 32bit= =20 > compatibility. Because you didn't turn it off (NO_LIB32). 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(mikej@rogers.com@66.96.18.43 with plain) by smtp105.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Dec 2005 04:29:29 -0000 Message-ID: <43990833.1000204@rogers.com> Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 23:29:39 -0500 From: Mike Jakubik User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051025) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Kennaway References: <43990628.9040101@rogers.com> <20051209042331.GA39114@xor.obsecurity.org> In-Reply-To: <20051209042331.GA39114@xor.obsecurity.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make build/install world builds 32bit libraries without request X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 04:29:31 -0000 Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 11:20:56PM -0500, Mike Jakubik wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I am updating a 5.4 system to 6-stable, and i noticed that buildworld is >> building 32bit compatible libraries, as seen below: >> >> cc -m32 -march=athlon-xp -msse2 -mfancy-math-387 -DCOMPAT_32BIT >> -I/usr/obj/usr/src/lib32/usr/include >> -L/usr/obj/usr/src/lib32/usr/lib32 -B/usr/obj/usr/src/lib32/usr/lib32 >> -pg -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -I/usr/src/lib/libc/include >> -I/usr/src/lib/libc/../../include -I/usr/src/lib/libc/i386 >> -D__DBINTERFACE_PRIVATE -I/usr/src/lib/libc/../../contrib/gdtoa -DINET6 >> -I/usr/obj/lib32/usr/src/lib/libc -DPOSIX_MISTAKE >> -I/usr/src/lib/libc/locale -DBROKEN_DES -DPORTMAP -DDES_BUILTIN >> -I/usr/src/lib/libc/rpc -DYP -DHESIOD -Wsystem-headers -Werror -Wall >> -Wno-format-y2k -Wno-uninitialized -c /usr/src/lib/libc/net/getifaddrs.c >> -o getifaddrs.po >> >> Why is it doing this? I have not specified that i want or need any 32bit >> compatibility. >> > > Because you didn't turn it off (NO_LIB32). > > Kris > I see. Well i don't recall turning it on either. Can i simply make installworld -DNO_LIB32 in that case? Also, to delete the existing 32bit compatible files, is it safe to just remove /usr/lib32 ? Thanks. From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 9 04:33:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 188FB16A41F for ; Fri, 9 Dec 2005 04:33:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6A4843D4C for ; Fri, 9 Dec 2005 04:33:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D00741A3C26; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 20:33:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2E0EA51BF0; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 23:33:24 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 23:33:24 -0500 From: Kris Kennaway To: Mike Jakubik Message-ID: <20051209043324.GA39384@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <43990628.9040101@rogers.com> <20051209042331.GA39114@xor.obsecurity.org> <43990833.1000204@rogers.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="oyUTqETQ0mS9luUI" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43990833.1000204@rogers.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: make build/install world builds 32bit libraries without request X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 04:33:26 -0000 --oyUTqETQ0mS9luUI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 11:29:39PM -0500, Mike Jakubik wrote: > >>Why is it doing this? I have not specified that i want or need any 32bi= t=20 > >>compatibility. > >> =20 > > > >Because you didn't turn it off (NO_LIB32). > > > >Kris > > =20 > I see. Well i don't recall turning it on either. Of course, since it's on by default :-) > Can i simply make installworld -DNO_LIB32 in that case? Better to put it in make.conf. > Also, to delete the existing 32bit compatible files, is it safe to > just remove /usr/lib32 ? Not sure. Check timestamps for old files after you run installworld. Kris --oyUTqETQ0mS9luUI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDmQkTWry0BWjoQKURAtqzAJ9xJiRa/MhNx6Q63i8WubP2qudSXwCg/L3Y TXMsQ6i2AsijBMWGpBGwJEE= =SGJC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --oyUTqETQ0mS9luUI-- From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 9 06:07:07 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F02A816A41F for ; Fri, 9 Dec 2005 06:07:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vd@datamax.bg) Received: from jengal.datamax.bg (jengal.datamax.bg [82.103.104.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEBD143D64 for ; Fri, 9 Dec 2005 06:07:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vd@datamax.bg) Received: from qlovarnika.bg.datamax (qlovarnika.bg.datamax [192.168.10.2]) by jengal.datamax.bg (Postfix) with SMTP id 07C40B832; Fri, 9 Dec 2005 08:07:00 +0200 (EET) Received: (nullmailer pid 48790 invoked by uid 1002); Fri, 09 Dec 2005 06:06:59 -0000 Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 08:06:59 +0200 From: Vasil Dimov To: David Reid Message-ID: <20051209060659.GA33274@qlovarnika.bg.datamax> References: <439875CF.5020006@jetnet.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <439875CF.5020006@jetnet.co.uk> X-OS: FreeBSD 6.0-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to get more info X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: vd@datamax.bg List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 06:07:08 -0000 --ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 06:05:03PM +0000, David Reid wrote: > I'm running -STABLE and at present I'm being lucky to get more than 6 > hours uptime! The problem (and reason for this email) is to ask if there > is anything I can do to try and get more info on th crashes to help > debug and correct them. When the system goes it just reboots, no panic > or information written to any logs. It's been doing it for a while but > the last few days have seen it happening more often. >=20 > I'm running a GENERIC kernel with WITNESS enabled. I'm more than willing > to try and help find/fix the problem, but the lack of information is > stopping me from doing much! >=20 In addition to WITNESS you may add the following in your kernel config: options MUTEX_DEBUG options WITNESS # you already have that options WITNESS_KDB =20 options DEBUG_MEMGUARD # only for 6.x options INVARIANTS options INVARIANT_SUPPORT Do you do something specific when the machine reboots? If the reboots continue with the above options I guess you should start to replace the hardware part by part - try with another memory, than another motherboard, etc. Good Luck! --=20 Vasil Dimov --ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQFDmR8DFw6SP/bBpCARAmwuAJ4nCUm0KON9vpxk9sYoisOSiXJUNwCdEoLB T5rHUforpVVlK2kDBpHp1mw= =faKe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv-- From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 9 07:07:37 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0F7016A41F for ; Fri, 9 Dec 2005 07:07:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ru@ip.net.ua) Received: from tigra.ip.net.ua (tigra.ip.net.ua [82.193.96.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A76F43D64 for ; Fri, 9 Dec 2005 07:07:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ru@ip.net.ua) Received: from localhost (rocky.ip.net.ua [82.193.96.2]) by tigra.ip.net.ua (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jB977QVp092729; Fri, 9 Dec 2005 09:07:26 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru@ip.net.ua) Received: from tigra.ip.net.ua ([82.193.96.10]) by localhost (rocky.ipnet [82.193.96.2]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 41722-01; Fri, 9 Dec 2005 09:07:24 +0200 (EET) Received: from heffalump.ip.net.ua (heffalump.ip.net.ua [82.193.96.213]) by tigra.ip.net.ua (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jB97275i092589 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 9 Dec 2005 09:02:07 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru@ip.net.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by heffalump.ip.net.ua (8.13.4/8.13.4) id jB972Ceh019759; Fri, 9 Dec 2005 09:02:12 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 09:02:12 +0200 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Kris Kennaway Message-ID: <20051209070212.GE33744@ip.net.ua> References: <43990628.9040101@rogers.com> <20051209042331.GA39114@xor.obsecurity.org> <43990833.1000204@rogers.com> <20051209043324.GA39384@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="M/SuVGWktc5uNpra" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051209043324.GA39384@xor.obsecurity.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ip.net.ua Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make build/install world builds 32bit libraries without request X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 07:07:37 -0000 --M/SuVGWktc5uNpra Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 11:33:24PM -0500, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 11:29:39PM -0500, Mike Jakubik wrote: > > Also, to delete the existing 32bit compatible files, is it safe to > > just remove /usr/lib32 ? >=20 > Not sure. Check timestamps for old files after you run installworld. >=20 It also installs /libexec/ld-elf32.so.1 and a symlink in /usr/libexec. Cheers, --=20 Ruslan Ermilov ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer --M/SuVGWktc5uNpra Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDmSv0qRfpzJluFF4RAidNAJ9d592iFS1fuqssa0TMscHt5MFXywCfXXCT SmlywVhXYdG7qMmYfK/SNC8= =seO6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --M/SuVGWktc5uNpra-- From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 9 09:08:35 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D7A416A41F for ; Fri, 9 Dec 2005 09:08:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hv@tuebingen.mpg.de) Received: from tuebingen.mpg.de (smtp-out.tuebingen.mpg.de [192.124.26.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3211B43D49 for ; Fri, 9 Dec 2005 09:08:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hv@tuebingen.mpg.de) Received: from [10.3.7.24] ([10.3.7.24] verified) by tuebingen.mpg.de (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 16212692; Fri, 09 Dec 2005 10:08:31 +0100 In-Reply-To: References: <43927A1D.9090003@cox.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) Message-Id: From: Henry Vogt Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 10:08:30 +0100 To: Tom Cumming X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0-Release AMD64 3DM2 3ware 7506-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 09:08:35 -0000 Am 09.12.2005 um 01:34 schrieb Tom Cumming: >> I am having some trouble getting 3dm2 up and running on my >> server. I have installed via the ports and i have also downloaded the >> software from 3ware's support site. However, none seem to work for =20= >> me. >> If anyone has this working, could you tell me what, exactly, i =20 >> need to do. > > > The problem is: > > CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.80GHz (2800.11-MHz K8-class CPU) > > > The SSL library 3ware is using only works for 32 bit, so 64 bit =20= > isn't > supported (yet). I believe the CLI works fine (of course I say =20 > that, being a > CLI snob). Strange, the 3dm, installed via ports, works here flawlessly on =20 several 6.0-STABLE amd64 64bit machines: pkg_info | grep 3dm 3dm-2.04.00.011,1 3ware RAID controller monitoring daemon and web =20 server Webinterface shows the following version info: Last updated Fri, Dec 09, 2005 09:57.33AM 3DM 2 version 2.04.00.011 (64 bit) Regards --=20 Henry Vogt (Phone: ++49-7071-601-511) Network- and Systemadminstration Campus Max-Planck-Institutes, Spemannstr. 32-39, T=FCbingen, Germany From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 9 17:28:21 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5997E16A41F for ; Fri, 9 Dec 2005 17:28:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alphavinlander@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E1E543D5D for ; Fri, 9 Dec 2005 17:28:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alphavinlander@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id t5so623143wxc for ; Fri, 09 Dec 2005 09:28:19 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=iNh9kM8h/7d8TFkP2Ykr0lVswWAHP+UGzuwtcmCzQdgv92L1/3AWG2T/PWDqEGSu3hlkQ/k9vzusQZ3dfkbmrzUj9UWbO2ehpZ9Ga5ztUpfUa2VhxU4zBELuUeXgyyR6oAyh8NV9+DNb3CO3pTN/j/7jGfWk35dZXQ2ZQfyYPxA= Received: by 10.70.65.4 with SMTP id n4mr4897681wxa; Fri, 09 Dec 2005 09:28:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.117.10 with HTTP; Fri, 9 Dec 2005 09:28:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1a2427c60512090928r2e75701ap16168d8e96ceaff7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 12:28:17 -0500 From: "S.C. Gehl" To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: RELEASE-6 amd64 + i386 Fails to see ICH5 controller? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 17:28:21 -0000 Hello, I need assistence getting my system stable. I have used fbsd for 5 years now with no problems ever. I have a new system; Tyan Thunder i7525 (S2676) with 2 gigs ram and single nocona I have tried everything from 5.4 to 7.0 i386 and amd64 to no availe, except for 6.0-BETA4 which boots in safemode. With Beta-4 i could net install 6.0-RELEASE onto my system, and for some reason 6.0-RELEASE boots into safe mode fine. But an actual 6.0-RELEASE cd will not. After several compiled kernels from RELENG_6 source... nothing will see my drives. It will only find my floppy drive. I finally built a kernel that works most of the time by taking out PREEMPTIVE from kernel config. ACPI mode sometimes works, but usually safemode has to be used. Without PREEMPTIVE my system is very choppy and sticks for a few seconds at times. ATA claims to support ICH5. What can I do? --- P.S. I used FreeSBiE livecd to boot my system when a kernel would fail to see my drives... Oddly, FreeSBiE would boot normally with ACPI working. Plus, X works great on my unsupported ATI FireGL V3100! X wont even start o= n my system under 6.0-RELEASE -- ---S.C. Gehl, 'Beauty to Burn' From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 9 17:34:11 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4921E16A420; Fri, 9 Dec 2005 17:34:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7708A43D5D; Fri, 9 Dec 2005 17:34:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jB9HXuXo064948; Fri, 9 Dec 2005 09:33:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.NUXI.org) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id jB9HXu1A064947; Fri, 9 Dec 2005 09:33:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 09:33:56 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Ruslan Ermilov Message-ID: <20051209173356.GB64803@dragon.NUXI.org> References: <20051207084939.GE63887@ip.net.ua> <20051207231539.GA29443@dragon.NUXI.org> <20051208062211.GF51156@ip.net.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051208062211.GF51156@ip.net.ua> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [ru@FreeBSD.org: install32] X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 17:34:11 -0000 On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 08:22:11AM +0200, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 03:15:39PM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 10:49:39AM +0200, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > > Forwarding this to the list since Peter doesn't reply. If you > > > have an opinion on the subject, please reply. > > .. > > > > . Makefile.inc1 > > > > share/mk bsd.lib.mk bsd.prog.mk > > > > Log: > > > > Add the NO_INCS knob to bsd.prog.mk and bsd.lib.mk to not include > > > > bsd.incs.mk, and use it when installing 32-bit compat libraries > > > > on amd64. This causes it to *not* overwrite native headers with > > > > i386 versions, which was the case with and . > > .. > > > This commit fixes a breakage but also raises the following question. > > > If we don't install headers, do we need anything except 32-bit rtld > > > and shared libraries? Currently, we also install .a libraries, .o > > > objects, and some data files. > > > > At the moment we don't support building 32-bit binaries on a 64-bit host. > > So we don't want .a's and .o's installed. > > Well, we do (to some extent), but I'm not sure if we want it or not: We don't support it. Peroid. > : $ uname -p > : amd64 > : $ cat a.c > : #include > : int main(void) { printf("Hello, world!\n"); return (0); } > : $ cc -m32 -B/usr/lib32 -L/usr/lib32 -o a a.c > : $ file a > : a: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (FreeBSD), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped > : $ ./a > : Hello, world! This only worked because you didn't use any data types for which the amd64 and i386 headers differ. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) Q: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. A: Why is top-posting (putting a reply at the top of the message) frowned upon? From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 9 20:33:10 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BB5F16A41F; Fri, 9 Dec 2005 20:33:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net) Received: from transport.cksoft.de (transport.cksoft.de [62.111.66.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACB8643D6E; Fri, 9 Dec 2005 20:32:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net) Received: from transport.cksoft.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by transport.cksoft.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B2F71FFAD4; Fri, 9 Dec 2005 21:32:43 +0100 (CET) Received: by transport.cksoft.de (Postfix, from userid 66) id C1AEE1FFAD3; Fri, 9 Dec 2005 21:32:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net (maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net [10.111.66.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.int.zabbadoz.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 446AB444F50; Fri, 9 Dec 2005 20:28:38 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 20:28:38 +0000 (UTC) From: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" X-X-Sender: bz@maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net To: FreeBSD current mailing list Message-ID: <20051209175607.C23668@maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS cksoft-s20020300-20031204bz on transport.cksoft.de X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 20:38:49 +0000 Cc: Subject: nve(4) patch - please test! X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 20:33:10 -0000 Hi, everyone out there who had only seen timeouts like nve0: device timeout (4) on nve and __never got it working at all__ please try this patch[1] which made my nve working from 0 to 99. I still can get timeouts by for example flood pinging another machine on the local LAN but it all recovers on it's own and I can work on that machine and do things like find / over ssh without losing connectivity. Fixing the timeouts will be another problem that needs to be addressed later. Greetings Bjoern A. Zeeb [1] http://sources.zabbadoz.net/freebsd/patchset/nve-20051209-01.diff Index: if_nve.c =================================================================== RCS file: /shared/mirror/FreeBSD/r/ncvs/src/sys/dev/nve/if_nve.c,v retrieving revision 1.19 diff -u -p -r1.19 if_nve.c --- if_nve.c 7 Dec 2005 17:38:03 -0000 1.19 +++ if_nve.c 9 Dec 2005 17:50:32 -0000 @@ -643,6 +643,10 @@ nve_init_locked(struct nve_softc *sc) nve_stop(sc); DEBUGOUT(NVE_DEBUG_INIT, "nve: do pfnInit\n"); + /* Setup multicast filter */ + nve_setmulti(sc); + nve_ifmedia_upd_locked(ifp); + /* Setup Hardware interface and allocate memory structures */ error = sc->hwapi->pfnInit(sc->hwapi->pADCX, 0, /* force speed */ @@ -661,10 +665,6 @@ nve_init_locked(struct nve_softc *sc) sc->hwapi->pfnEnableInterrupts(sc->hwapi->pADCX); sc->hwapi->pfnStart(sc->hwapi->pADCX); - /* Setup multicast filter */ - nve_setmulti(sc); - nve_ifmedia_upd_locked(ifp); - /* Update interface parameters */ ifp->if_drv_flags |= IFF_DRV_RUNNING; ifp->if_drv_flags &= ~IFF_DRV_OACTIVE; -- Bjoern A. Zeeb bzeeb at Zabbadoz dot NeT From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 9 23:20:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75ACE16A41F; Fri, 9 Dec 2005 23:20:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: from smarthost2.sentex.ca (smarthost2.sentex.ca [205.211.164.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E8AD43D62; Fri, 9 Dec 2005 23:20:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp2.sentex.ca (smtp2.sentex.ca [199.212.134.9]) by smarthost2.sentex.ca (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jB9NKRgC078095; Fri, 9 Dec 2005 18:20:27 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: from freebsd-current.sentex.ca (freebsd-current.sentex.ca [64.7.128.98]) by smtp2.sentex.ca (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jB9NKRe7034927; Fri, 9 Dec 2005 18:20:27 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from tinderbox@freebsd.org) Received: by freebsd-current.sentex.ca (Postfix, from userid 666) id 15DCD7302F; Fri, 9 Dec 2005 18:20:27 -0500 (EST) Sender: FreeBSD Tinderbox From: FreeBSD Tinderbox To: FreeBSD Tinderbox , , Precedence: bulk Message-Id: <20051209232027.15DCD7302F@freebsd-current.sentex.ca> Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 18:20:27 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.85.1, clamav-milter version 0.85 on clamscanner4 X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.51 on 205.211.164.50 Cc: Subject: [head tinderbox] failure on amd64/amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 23:20:36 -0000 TB --- 2005-12-09 21:42:06 - tinderbox 2.3 running on freebsd-current.sentex.ca TB --- 2005-12-09 21:42:06 - starting HEAD tinderbox run for amd64/amd64 TB --- 2005-12-09 21:42:06 - cleaning the object tree TB --- 2005-12-09 21:42:45 - checking out the source tree TB --- 2005-12-09 21:42:45 - cd /tinderbox/HEAD/amd64/amd64 TB --- 2005-12-09 21:42:45 - /usr/bin/cvs -f -R -q -d/home/ncvs update -Pd -A src TB --- 2005-12-09 21:48:45 - building world (CFLAGS=-O2 -pipe) TB --- 2005-12-09 21:48:45 - cd /src TB --- 2005-12-09 21:48:45 - /usr/bin/make -B buildworld >>> Rebuilding the temporary build tree >>> stage 1.1: legacy release compatibility shims >>> stage 1.2: bootstrap tools >>> stage 2.1: cleaning up the object tree >>> stage 2.2: rebuilding the object tree >>> stage 2.3: build tools >>> stage 3: cross tools >>> stage 4.1: building includes >>> stage 4.2: building libraries >>> stage 4.3: make dependencies >>> stage 4.4: building everything >>> stage 5.1: building 32 bit shim libraries TB --- 2005-12-09 23:19:58 - generating LINT kernel config TB --- 2005-12-09 23:19:58 - cd /src/sys/amd64/conf TB --- 2005-12-09 23:19:58 - /usr/bin/make -B LINT TB --- 2005-12-09 23:19:58 - building LINT kernel (COPTFLAGS=-O2 -pipe) TB --- 2005-12-09 23:19:58 - cd /src TB --- 2005-12-09 23:19:58 - /usr/bin/make buildkernel KERNCONF=LINT >>> Kernel build for LINT started on Fri Dec 9 23:19:59 UTC 2005 >>> stage 1: configuring the kernel >>> stage 2.1: cleaning up the object tree >>> stage 2.2: rebuilding the object tree >>> stage 2.3: build tools >>> stage 3.1: making dependencies [...] from /src/sys/net/if.h:390, from /src/sys/amd64/amd64/genassym.c:60: /src/sys/sys/mbuf.h: In function `m_getjcl': /src/sys/sys/mbuf.h:424: error: duplicate case value /src/sys/sys/mbuf.h:421: error: previously used here /src/sys/sys/mbuf.h: In function `m_cljget': /src/sys/sys/mbuf.h:488: error: duplicate case value /src/sys/sys/mbuf.h:485: error: previously used here *** Error code 1 Stop in /obj/amd64/src/sys/LINT. *** Error code 1 Stop in /src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /src. TB --- 2005-12-09 23:20:26 - WARNING: /usr/bin/make returned exit code 1 TB --- 2005-12-09 23:20:26 - ERROR: failed to build lint kernel TB --- 2005-12-09 23:20:26 - tinderbox aborted