From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 12 02:54:03 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1315516A41F; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 02:54:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EBC043D1F; Sun, 12 Jun 2005 02:54:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j5C2s2if069145; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 19:54:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.NUXI.org) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id j5C2s2rl069144; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 19:54:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 19:54:02 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: John Baldwin Message-ID: <20050612025402.GD67746@dragon.NUXI.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, John Baldwin References: <53d4293a37f280317d52338c2fc6fc6d@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <53d4293a37f280317d52338c2fc6fc6d@FreeBSD.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Death to toor X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 02:54:03 -0000 On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 04:40:19PM -0700, John Baldwin wrote: > Is there any good reason to keep the toor account around nowadays? Yes. Some of us use it. > vipw has existed since 4.0BSD and chsh and friends have existed since > 4.3BSD-Reno so I think that it's safe to say that folks are more than > capable nowadays of changing root's default shell if desired. I wouldn't say we are totally safe changing root's default shell away from /bin/csh. We still see people give the advice that one should not change root's default shell. > Also, > '/bin/csh' and '/bin/sh' aren't very hard to type once you are logged > in as root whatever the default shell may be. We could default to only /bin/sh as the login shell globally. 'csh', 'zsh', 'bash' aren't very hard to type once you are logged in. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org)