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Hello Everyone,
I was wondering who has subscribed to Daemon News?
(ezine.daemonnews.org)
I have subscribed however my first issue was from 2002. I emailed the
ediors twice (the only address I could dig up) and did not hear back.
I realize this may not be the forum for this issue, but I'm curious if
anyone else has had a problem with Daemon News?=20
I'm very interested in the magazine as a good resource, however I'm a
bit frusterated with them at this point.
I don't want this to be a negative reflection on Daemon News bu I'm
curious if anyone else shares my frusterations?
Thanks!=20
- jstn
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On Monday 07 February 2005 08:20 am, Justin Pessa
<jstn@sdf.lonestar.org> wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I was wondering who has subscribed to Daemon News?
> (ezine.daemonnews.org)
>
> I have subscribed however my first issue was from 2002. I emailed the
> ediors twice (the only address I could dig up) and did not hear back.
As far as I understand, that's the latest issue:
http://magazine.daemonnews.org/issue7.php
> I realize this may not be the forum for this issue, but I'm curious
> if anyone else has had a problem with Daemon News?
>
> I'm very interested in the magazine as a good resource, however I'm a
> bit frusterated with them at this point.
>
> I don't want this to be a negative reflection on Daemon News bu I'm
> curious if anyone else shares my frusterations?
I don't know what's going on there. Obviously the site is still running
and is updated regularly, but the print magazine hasn't had a new issue
in over two years. I'm sure their intentions aren't malicious, but if I
were you I'd ask for my money back.
- jt
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Am 07.02.2005 um 17:20 schrieb Justin Pessa:
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I was wondering who has subscribed to Daemon News?
> (ezine.daemonnews.org)
>
> I have subscribed however my first issue was from 2002. I emailed the
> ediors twice (the only address I could dig up) and did not hear back.
>
> I realize this may not be the forum for this issue, but I'm curious if
> anyone else has had a problem with Daemon News?
>
>
Hi Justin,
bought the latest "Winter" edition as PDF download and also found out
after buying it that it is from winter 2002, not this winter... I sent
them an email that they should at least write that on the website but I
also got no reply.
Stephan
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Subject: Catch - 22 ... (or is it '2003')
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I'm not one given to posting questions at whichisworse.com
(it does seem like the 'eric' there is very bored though --- I
guess the conspiracy isn't meeting its goals on time?)
I picked up an account that is a couple small offices with one
server that runs a relatively recent, expensive piece of Some
Business Software.
And, after fighting with this server for several hours, I think
I'd rather have a badly adminned 'Nix box than a badly adminned
server from that other outfit.
Thoughts?
:-)
Kevin Kinsey
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On Monday 07 February 2005 03:41 pm, Kevin Kinsey <kdk@daleco.biz>
wrote:
> I'm not one given to posting questions at whichisworse.com
> (it does seem like the 'eric' there is very bored though --- I
> guess the conspiracy isn't meeting its goals on time?)
>
> I picked up an account that is a couple small offices with one
> server that runs a relatively recent, expensive piece of Some
> Business Software.
>
> And, after fighting with this server for several hours, I think
> I'd rather have a badly adminned 'Nix box than a badly adminned
> server from that other outfit.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> :-)
I think if you have the choice you are in a good position. If you are
asking which is better, then I think you have the answer ;) Personally,
I work on mostly Win machines for clients, but that's because I am
doing home computer repair at the moment, and almost everyone who needs
this sort of help runs Windows. Most aren't in the mood to switch,
either, which is alright with me. It's their money, and I secure their
boxes so they don't have to call me about viruses or malware all the
time, although sometimes it still happens. If I had the choice, from a
technical perspective, I'd much rather be working with FreeBSD or
almost any *nix, but this isn't the way this market works at the
moment. However, I like working with home users, believe it or not
(many people are just intimidated by computers and need some guidance),
and I have a feeling this market is going to be like this for some
time. So, I'm stuck with what my clients want to run, but they are
generally easier people to deal with and much nicer than corporate
bosses. It's a trade-off I'm willing to make for now, but if I were in
your position, I'd switch the server or possibly drop the account if
the client didn't want to switch, depending on how many other clients I
had, finances, etc. A badly adminned *nix box is simpler for me to deal
with than a badly adminned Win box. YMMV.
- jt
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Bad news, looks like my machine has been infected with some Spyware.
I noticed that on surfing to: http://news.bbc.co.uk/ or anything under
that domain, I was getting some outgoing activity and Firefox was
after a URL (as shown by the status bar) somewhere under the domain:
http://bbcnewscouk.112.2o7.net/
A quick Google on 2o7.net confirmed my worst fears: spyware!
and a 2o7.net cookie planted on my machine.
I cached some pages in my proxy <excerpt>:
http://bbcnewscouk.112.2o7.net/b/ss/bbcnewscouk/1/G.7-Pd-R/s68107022286455?purl=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.bbc.co.uk%2F&pccr=true&%5BAQB%5D&ndh=1&t=8/1/2005+2:21:56+2+0&cdp=3&pageName=BBC+NEWS+|+News+Front+Page&g=http://news.bbc.co.uk/&cc=GBP&c1=1&s=1152x864&c=24&j=1.3&v=N&k=Y&bw=1129&bh=543&p=Default+Plugin%3B&%5BAQE%5D
http://bbcnewscouk.112.2o7.net/b/ss/bbcnewscouk/1/G.7-Pd-R/s68107022286455?purl=http://news.bbc.co.uk/&pccr=true&%5BAQB%5D&ndh=1&t=8/1/2005+2:21:56+2+0&cdp=3&pageName=BBC+NEWS+|+News+Front+Page&g=http://news.bbc.co.uk/&cc=GBP&c1=1&s=1152x864&c=24&j=1.3&v=N&k=Y&bw=1129&bh=543&p=Default+Plugin%3B&%5BAQE%5D
Looks like some sort of perl script which returns a 2x2 gif, whilst
harvesting your browsing habits (and screen & windowsize - by calling
Javascript functions in Firefox?)
I wonder if they use different sub-domains to collect stats on
different sites. This particular variant seems to be only activated by
a visit to BBC news.
I had a grovel in the source of the BBC news homepage but found no
reference to 2o7.net (For a minute I thought the BBC had turned evil
on me!)
I'm going to do a little bit more investigation on it - I tried
removal by obliterating my Firefox profile but no joy. The only thing
I saved was my bookmarks file, which looks sound.
Spyware on a unix machine? Tell me it's not so! :(
BTW:
FreeBSD 4.11-PRERELEASE
firefox-1.0.r1,1
I know the latter has some vulnerabilities and I'll update it in due
course (and the OS).
I think I'm going to build Links/Lynx with SSL and use that for my
banking from now on (if I can).
Anybody aware of other reports of spyware infecting Unix machines?
Anyway, I'm gutted. I feel like I've been violated and humiliated. In
short, I feel like a Windows user does everyday!!
The truth: I feel a bit pissed off but I urge people to take no action
against 2o7.net like DOS or cracking their webserver and trashing
it.....I'll do that myself ;)
--
Frank
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Frank Shute wrote:
> Bad news, looks like my machine has been infected with some Spyware.
>
> I noticed that on surfing to: http://news.bbc.co.uk/ or anything under
> that domain, I was getting some outgoing activity and Firefox was
> after a URL (as shown by the status bar) somewhere under the domain:
>
> http://bbcnewscouk.112.2o7.net/
>
> A quick Google on 2o7.net confirmed my worst fears: spyware!
>
> and a 2o7.net cookie planted on my machine.
>
> I cached some pages in my proxy <excerpt>:
>
> http://bbcnewscouk.112.2o7.net/b/ss/bbcnewscouk/1/G.7-Pd-R/s68107022286455?purl=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.bbc.co.uk%2F&pccr=true&%5BAQB%5D&ndh=1&t=8/1/2005+2:21:56+2+0&cdp=3&pageName=BBC+NEWS+|+News+Front+Page&g=http://news.bbc.co.uk/&cc=GBP&c1=1&s=1152x864&c=24&j=1.3&v=N&k=Y&bw=1129&bh=543&p=Default+Plugin%3B&%5BAQE%5D
>
> http://bbcnewscouk.112.2o7.net/b/ss/bbcnewscouk/1/G.7-Pd-R/s68107022286455?purl=http://news.bbc.co.uk/&pccr=true&%5BAQB%5D&ndh=1&t=8/1/2005+2:21:56+2+0&cdp=3&pageName=BBC+NEWS+|+News+Front+Page&g=http://news.bbc.co.uk/&cc=GBP&c1=1&s=1152x864&c=24&j=1.3&v=N&k=Y&bw=1129&bh=543&p=Default+Plugin%3B&%5BAQE%5D
>
> Looks like some sort of perl script which returns a 2x2 gif, whilst
> harvesting your browsing habits (and screen & windowsize - by calling
> Javascript functions in Firefox?)
>
% whois 2o7.net
[....]
Registrant:
Omniture, Inc. (2O41-DOM)
550 East Timpanogos Cir
Building G
Orem, UT 84097
US
From BBC's Privacy and Cookies Policy (there's a link at the bottom of
the main page) http://www.bbc.co.uk/privacy/
2. Visitor Information
[....]
"The BBC also uses a company called Omniture to track and analyse
non-personally identifiable usage and statistical information about
volume of visitors to the BBC News pages on bbc.co.uk in order to
measure the effectiveness of the BBC News web pages and improve services
to users. Please note that this is not personal information, only
general summaries of the activities of visitors to bbc.co.uk. If you
wish to reject the Omniture cookies, you can use the process set out
below in point 7. Further information regarding Omniture's privacy
statement can be found at http://www.omniture.com/policy.html#cookies."
Blocking the cookies does not stop the site working.
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On Tue, 8 Feb 2005, Frank Shute wrote:
>
> Bad news, looks like my machine has been infected with some Spyware.
>
> I noticed that on surfing to: http://news.bbc.co.uk/ or anything
> under that domain, I was getting some outgoing activity and Firefox
> was after a URL (as shown by the status bar) somewhere under the
> domain:
>
> http://bbcnewscouk.112.2o7.net/
>
> A quick Google on 2o7.net confirmed my worst fears: spyware!
Uh, no. 2o7.net is owned by Omniture, a web analytics company, and is
used explicitly by the sites you are visiting. Nothing to do with
2o7.net is actually installed on your computer.
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On Tue, Feb 08, 2005 at 06:39:48PM +0000, Mark Ovens wrote:
>
> Frank Shute wrote:
> >Bad news, looks like my machine has been infected with some Spyware.
> >
> >I noticed that on surfing to: http://news.bbc.co.uk/ or anything under
> >that domain, I was getting some outgoing activity and Firefox was
> >after a URL (as shown by the status bar) somewhere under the domain:
> >
> >http://bbcnewscouk.112.2o7.net/
> >
> >A quick Google on 2o7.net confirmed my worst fears: spyware!
> >
> >and a 2o7.net cookie planted on my machine.
> >
> >I cached some pages in my proxy <excerpt>:
> >
> >http://bbcnewscouk.112.2o7.net/b/ss/bbcnewscouk/1/G.7-Pd-R/s68107022286455?purl=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.bbc.co.uk%2F&pccr=true&%5BAQB%5D&ndh=1&t=8/1/2005+2:21:56+2+0&cdp=3&pageName=BBC+NEWS+|+News+Front+Page&g=http://news.bbc.co.uk/&cc=GBP&c1=1&s=1152x864&c=24&j=1.3&v=N&k=Y&bw=1129&bh=543&p=Default+Plugin%3B&%5BAQE%5D
> >
> >http://bbcnewscouk.112.2o7.net/b/ss/bbcnewscouk/1/G.7-Pd-R/s68107022286455?purl=http://news.bbc.co.uk/&pccr=true&%5BAQB%5D&ndh=1&t=8/1/2005+2:21:56+2+0&cdp=3&pageName=BBC+NEWS+|+News+Front+Page&g=http://news.bbc.co.uk/&cc=GBP&c1=1&s=1152x864&c=24&j=1.3&v=N&k=Y&bw=1129&bh=543&p=Default+Plugin%3B&%5BAQE%5D
> >
> >Looks like some sort of perl script which returns a 2x2 gif, whilst
> >harvesting your browsing habits (and screen & windowsize - by calling
> >Javascript functions in Firefox?)
> >
>
> % whois 2o7.net
>
> [....]
>
> Registrant:
> Omniture, Inc. (2O41-DOM)
> 550 East Timpanogos Cir
> Building G
> Orem, UT 84097
> US
>
> From BBC's Privacy and Cookies Policy (there's a link at the bottom of
> the main page) http://www.bbc.co.uk/privacy/
>
> 2. Visitor Information
>
> [....]
>
> "The BBC also uses a company called Omniture to track and analyse
> non-personally identifiable usage and statistical information about
> volume of visitors to the BBC News pages on bbc.co.uk in order to
> measure the effectiveness of the BBC News web pages and improve services
> to users. Please note that this is not personal information, only
> general summaries of the activities of visitors to bbc.co.uk. If you
> wish to reject the Omniture cookies, you can use the process set out
> below in point 7. Further information regarding Omniture's privacy
> statement can be found at http://www.omniture.com/policy.html#cookies."
>
> Blocking the cookies does not stop the site working.
Cheers Mark. I looked at that page too, skim read it and missed it. It
was only in the last few days that I'd noticed the behaviour I
described. It's probably been like that for months but I was too drunk
to notice it or something :)
Huge relief. I thought I'd installed a nefarious XPI - if such things
exist.
Apologies to all for any alarm caused! I think I'm a bit paranoid ATM
due to some unpleasant personal circumstances.
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> On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 01:56:59PM -0800, PetitionOnline wrote:
> > Dear enrique salazar,
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> > "Help Save the FreeBSD Mascot"
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> Uh..no-one's planning on removing the freebsd mascot. Logo != mascot.
>
> Kris
Anyway, some folks have obviously already been putting a lot of work
into the new logo, so it's a bit late to complain now!:
http://people.freebsd.org/~adamw/new_beastie/beastie1.png
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> On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 02:28:08PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote:
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>> On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 01:56:59PM -0800, PetitionOnline wrote:
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>> > "Help Save the FreeBSD Mascot"
>>
>> Uh..no-one's planning on removing the freebsd mascot. Logo != mascot.
>>
>> Kris
>
> Anyway, some folks have obviously already been putting a lot of work
> into the new logo, so it's a bit late to complain now!:
>
> http://people.freebsd.org/~adamw/new_beastie/beastie1.png
>
> The artist says he's got his fingers crossed it wins ;)
>
ROFLMAO :-)
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>On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 02:28:08PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote:
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>>>
>>> "Help Save the FreeBSD Mascot"
>>>
>>>
>>Uh..no-one's planning on removing the freebsd mascot. Logo != mascot.
>>
>>Kris
>>
>>
>
>Anyway, some folks have obviously already been putting a lot of work
>into the new logo, so it's a bit late to complain now!:
>
>http://people.freebsd.org/~adamw/new_beastie/beastie1.png
>
>The artist says he's got his fingers crossed it wins ;)
>
>
>
>
Seriously, by lookin at the candidate, I have this feelin that our
Beastie will be replaced. Joke. :D. I like the tree tho. LOL.
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> >Anyway, some folks have obviously already been putting a lot of work
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> >http://people.freebsd.org/~adamw/new_beastie/beastie1.png
> >
> >The artist says he's got his fingers crossed it wins ;)
>
> Seriously, by lookin at the candidate, I have this feelin that our
> Beastie will be replaced. Joke. :D. I like the tree tho. LOL.
I lik it cuz everones happy oi thaught it wuz a plain but its was a
buird.. hahaa!!1!
Onooo... .... . :(
http://people.freebsd.org/~adamw/new_beastie/beastie2.png
http://people.freebsd.org/~adamw/new_beastie/beastie3.png
- jt
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> buird.. hahaa!!1!
>
> Onooo... .... . :(
>
> http://people.freebsd.org/~adamw/new_beastie/beastie2.png
>
> http://people.freebsd.org/~adamw/new_beastie/beastie3.png
CafePress is definitely called for.
Robert N M Watson
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> buird.. hahaa!!1!
>
> Onooo... .... . :(
>
> http://people.freebsd.org/~adamw/new_beastie/beastie2.png
>
> http://people.freebsd.org/~adamw/new_beastie/beastie3.png
omfg!!!! LMFAO!!!!!111one
wtb j00s to do our next ad campaign :-)
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-questions appears to be having a severe case of NIH. I note that rather
than reuse the efforts that netbsd (who wound up producing gigabytes* of
diatribe on the subject of what constitutes a logo / mascot etc, of the
highest quality I might add) went to, people seem to be rolling their
own once again. I rather suspect that this will end up producing yet
another incompatibility between netbsd and freebsd.
Can we not just import Net's flamefest instead? It was well-structured,
well-thought out, and - most importantly - it was completed some time
ago.
Cheers,
jan
* this may or may not be accurate depending on the font size used to
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i could not find the "procps" port or package for freebsd??
if there is available let me know!!
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On Fri, 11 Feb 2005, neeraj shrestha wrote:
> i could not find the "procps" port or package for freebsd??
> if there is available let me know!!
procps is the Linux /proc file system utilities. My package description
is: The Linux /proc file system utilities are tools for reporting about
and modifying the state of the system, including memory, processes,
sending signals to processes, etc. The commands include free, oldps,
pgrep, pkill, ps, skill, snice, sysctl, tload, top, vmstat, w and watch.
(kill is not installed; it is available in the sysutils/util-linux
package.) This version of procps is maintained by Albert Cahalan, based on
original code from Michael K. Johnson.
I packaged it for Pkgsrc but ONLY_FOR_PLATFORM= Linux-*-* because this
uses Linux include/asm/page.h. I never wasted time trying to port to and
*BSD, because I already have the tools I needed.
Is there some reason you need procps on FreeBSD? What tool(s) do you need?
If you need the Linux procps, then install your Linux compat packages. It
is included.
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On Fri, 11 Feb 2005, Brian Sobolak wrote:
> I have installed Linux bin compatibility, and pstree doesn't work. Is it
> earth-shattering? No. Would this fix it?
pstree is not included with procps.
pstree is a FreeBSD ports/sysutils/pstree package. Not really Linux
related. There is also pstree from psmisc package which is also in the
FreeBSD ports collection (and it is not Linux specific) in the sysutils
category. (Two packages conflict.)
I don't know why your pstree doesn't work. If you are using psmisc, I
assume you need a /proc filesystem mounted. Do that or try the other
package.
If you want to use procps' "pstree", then use "ps --forest".
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On Feb 10 01:51AM, Frank Shute wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 02:28:08PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote:
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> > On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 01:56:59PM -0800, PetitionOnline wrote:
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> > Uh..no-one's planning on removing the freebsd mascot. Logo !=3D mascot.
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> Anyway, some folks have obviously already been putting a lot of work
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>=20
> http://people.freebsd.org/~adamw/new_beastie/beastie1.png
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> The artist says he's got his fingers crossed it wins ;)
I believe the artist is also working on a *new* gnome ui:
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I am looking forward to these new changes!
Although honestly I suspect *someone* has too much time on their hands!
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On Fri, Feb 11, 2005 at 07:43:49PM -0500, Justin Pessa wrote:
> I believe the artist is also working on a *new* gnome ui:
>
> http://people.freebsd.org/~adamw/screenshots/gnome_ss_20050211.png
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> I am looking forward to these new changes!
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> Although honestly I suspect *someone* has too much time on their hands!
omg! he beat me to the transparent applet with transparent text! :(
2funny. please start a comic strip.
-matty
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i need "watch" and "free" commmand at least!!
is there bsd equivalent of these linux utilities?
On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 22:38, Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Feb 2005, neeraj shrestha wrote:
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> > i could not find the "procps" port or package for freebsd??
> > if there is available let me know!!
>
> procps is the Linux /proc file system utilities. My package description
> is: The Linux /proc file system utilities are tools for reporting about
> and modifying the state of the system, including memory, processes,
> sending signals to processes, etc. The commands include free, oldps,
> pgrep, pkill, ps, skill, snice, sysctl, tload, top, vmstat, w and watch.
> (kill is not installed; it is available in the sysutils/util-linux
> package.) This version of procps is maintained by Albert Cahalan, based on
> original code from Michael K. Johnson.
>
> I packaged it for Pkgsrc but ONLY_FOR_PLATFORM= Linux-*-* because this
> uses Linux include/asm/page.h. I never wasted time trying to port to and
> *BSD, because I already have the tools I needed.
>
> Is there some reason you need procps on FreeBSD? What tool(s) do you need?
>
> If you need the Linux procps, then install your Linux compat packages. It
> is included.
>
> Jeremy C. Reed
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On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 15:25, neeraj shrestha wrote:
> i need "watch" and "free" commmand at least!!
> is there bsd equivalent of these linux utilities?
Well there is a FreeBSD command called watch which snoops on TTYs..
You can use top to find out how much RAM is free.
> On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 22:38, Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
> > On Fri, 11 Feb 2005, neeraj shrestha wrote:
> > > i could not find the "procps" port or package for freebsd??
> > > if there is available let me know!!
> >
> > procps is the Linux /proc file system utilities. My package description
> > is: The Linux /proc file system utilities are tools for reporting about
> > and modifying the state of the system, including memory, processes,
> > sending signals to processes, etc. The commands include free, oldps,
> > pgrep, pkill, ps, skill, snice, sysctl, tload, top, vmstat, w and watch.
> > (kill is not installed; it is available in the sysutils/util-linux
> > package.) This version of procps is maintained by Albert Cahalan, based
> > on original code from Michael K. Johnson.
> >
> > I packaged it for Pkgsrc but ONLY_FOR_PLATFORM=3D Linux-*-* because this
> > uses Linux include/asm/page.h. I never wasted time trying to port to and
> > *BSD, because I already have the tools I needed.
> >
> > Is there some reason you need procps on FreeBSD? What tool(s) do you
> > need?
> >
> > If you need the Linux procps, then install your Linux compat packages. =
It
> > is included.
> >
> > Jeremy C. Reed
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well
bsd "watch" doesnot allow me to continuously monitor a process or
command!! and also "top" doesnot shows the total physical memory that my
system has?
On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 10:46, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 15:25, neeraj shrestha wrote:
> > i need "watch" and "free" commmand at least!!
> > is there bsd equivalent of these linux utilities?
>
> Well there is a FreeBSD command called watch which snoops on TTYs..
> You can use top to find out how much RAM is free.
>
> > On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 22:38, Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
> > > On Fri, 11 Feb 2005, neeraj shrestha wrote:
> > > > i could not find the "procps" port or package for freebsd??
> > > > if there is available let me know!!
> > >
> > > procps is the Linux /proc file system utilities. My package description
> > > is: The Linux /proc file system utilities are tools for reporting about
> > > and modifying the state of the system, including memory, processes,
> > > sending signals to processes, etc. The commands include free, oldps,
> > > pgrep, pkill, ps, skill, snice, sysctl, tload, top, vmstat, w and watch.
> > > (kill is not installed; it is available in the sysutils/util-linux
> > > package.) This version of procps is maintained by Albert Cahalan, based
> > > on original code from Michael K. Johnson.
> > >
> > > I packaged it for Pkgsrc but ONLY_FOR_PLATFORM= Linux-*-* because this
> > > uses Linux include/asm/page.h. I never wasted time trying to port to and
> > > *BSD, because I already have the tools I needed.
> > >
> > > Is there some reason you need procps on FreeBSD? What tool(s) do you
> > > need?
> > >
> > > If you need the Linux procps, then install your Linux compat packages. It
> > > is included.
> > >
> > > Jeremy C. Reed
> > >
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On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 16:02, neeraj shrestha wrote:
> bsd "watch" doesnot allow me to continuously monitor a process or
> command!! and also "top" doesnot shows the total physical memory that my
No need to use so many exclamation marks..
What exactly does the linux watch command do?
> system has?
Well, I guess you could add up the fields ;)
sysctl hw.physmem will show you how much physical memory the machine has.
> On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 10:46, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
> > On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 15:25, neeraj shrestha wrote:
> > > i need "watch" and "free" commmand at least!!
> > > is there bsd equivalent of these linux utilities?
> >
> > Well there is a FreeBSD command called watch which snoops on TTYs..
> > You can use top to find out how much RAM is free.
> >
> > > On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 22:38, Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 11 Feb 2005, neeraj shrestha wrote:
> > > > > i could not find the "procps" port or package for freebsd??
> > > > > if there is available let me know!!
> > > >
> > > > procps is the Linux /proc file system utilities. My package
> > > > description is: The Linux /proc file system utilities are tools for
> > > > reporting about and modifying the state of the system, including
> > > > memory, processes, sending signals to processes, etc. The commands
> > > > include free, oldps, pgrep, pkill, ps, skill, snice, sysctl, tload,
> > > > top, vmstat, w and watch. (kill is not installed; it is available in
> > > > the sysutils/util-linux package.) This version of procps is
> > > > maintained by Albert Cahalan, based on original code from Michael K.
> > > > Johnson.
> > > >
> > > > I packaged it for Pkgsrc but ONLY_FOR_PLATFORM=3D Linux-*-* because
> > > > this uses Linux include/asm/page.h. I never wasted time trying to
> > > > port to and *BSD, because I already have the tools I needed.
> > > >
> > > > Is there some reason you need procps on FreeBSD? What tool(s) do you
> > > > need?
> > > >
> > > > If you need the Linux procps, then install your Linux compat
> > > > packages. It is included.
> > > >
> > > > Jeremy C. Reed
> > > >
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thanks daniel for your solution.
What exactly does the linux watch command do?
$ watch -n1 'some command '
will run the command every 1 sec and show the output cont. on terminal.
so it is useful to monitor the size of log files and disk space usage.
On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 11:21, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 16:02, neeraj shrestha wrote:
> > bsd "watch" doesnot allow me to continuously monitor a process or
> > command!! and also "top" doesnot shows the total physical memory that my
>
> No need to use so many exclamation marks..
>
> What exactly does the linux watch command do?
>
> > system has?
>
> Well, I guess you could add up the fields ;)
> sysctl hw.physmem will show you how much physical memory the machine has.
>
> > On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 10:46, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
> > > On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 15:25, neeraj shrestha wrote:
> > > > i need "watch" and "free" commmand at least!!
> > > > is there bsd equivalent of these linux utilities?
> > >
> > > Well there is a FreeBSD command called watch which snoops on TTYs..
> > > You can use top to find out how much RAM is free.
> > >
> > > > On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 22:38, Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, 11 Feb 2005, neeraj shrestha wrote:
> > > > > > i could not find the "procps" port or package for freebsd??
> > > > > > if there is available let me know!!
> > > > >
> > > > > procps is the Linux /proc file system utilities. My package
> > > > > description is: The Linux /proc file system utilities are tools for
> > > > > reporting about and modifying the state of the system, including
> > > > > memory, processes, sending signals to processes, etc. The commands
> > > > > include free, oldps, pgrep, pkill, ps, skill, snice, sysctl, tload,
> > > > > top, vmstat, w and watch. (kill is not installed; it is available in
> > > > > the sysutils/util-linux package.) This version of procps is
> > > > > maintained by Albert Cahalan, based on original code from Michael K.
> > > > > Johnson.
> > > > >
> > > > > I packaged it for Pkgsrc but ONLY_FOR_PLATFORM= Linux-*-* because
> > > > > this uses Linux include/asm/page.h. I never wasted time trying to
> > > > > port to and *BSD, because I already have the tools I needed.
> > > > >
> > > > > Is there some reason you need procps on FreeBSD? What tool(s) do you
> > > > > need?
> > > > >
> > > > > If you need the Linux procps, then install your Linux compat
> > > > > packages. It is included.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jeremy C. Reed
> > > > >
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On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 16:33, neeraj shrestha wrote:
> $ watch -n1 'some command '
> will run the command every 1 sec and show the output cont. on terminal.
> so it is useful to monitor the size of log files and disk space usage.
Ahh..
You could write a shellscript version of that in short order I'd imagine :)
> On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 11:21, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
> > On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 16:02, neeraj shrestha wrote:
> > > bsd "watch" doesnot allow me to continuously monitor a process or
> > > command!! and also "top" doesnot shows the total physical memory that
> > > my
> >
> > No need to use so many exclamation marks..
> >
> > What exactly does the linux watch command do?
> >
> > > system has?
> >
> > Well, I guess you could add up the fields ;)
> > sysctl hw.physmem will show you how much physical memory the machine ha=
s.
> >
> > > On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 10:46, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
> > > > On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 15:25, neeraj shrestha wrote:
> > > > > i need "watch" and "free" commmand at least!!
> > > > > is there bsd equivalent of these linux utilities?
> > > >
> > > > Well there is a FreeBSD command called watch which snoops on TTYs..
> > > > You can use top to find out how much RAM is free.
> > > >
> > > > > On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 22:38, Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
> > > > > > On Fri, 11 Feb 2005, neeraj shrestha wrote:
> > > > > > > i could not find the "procps" port or package for freebsd??
> > > > > > > if there is available let me know!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > procps is the Linux /proc file system utilities. My package
> > > > > > description is: The Linux /proc file system utilities are tools
> > > > > > for reporting about and modifying the state of the system,
> > > > > > including memory, processes, sending signals to processes, etc.
> > > > > > The commands include free, oldps, pgrep, pkill, ps, skill, snic=
e,
> > > > > > sysctl, tload, top, vmstat, w and watch. (kill is not installed;
> > > > > > it is available in the sysutils/util-linux package.) This versi=
on
> > > > > > of procps is maintained by Albert Cahalan, based on original co=
de
> > > > > > from Michael K. Johnson.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I packaged it for Pkgsrc but ONLY_FOR_PLATFORM=3D Linux-*-* bec=
ause
> > > > > > this uses Linux include/asm/page.h. I never wasted time trying =
to
> > > > > > port to and *BSD, because I already have the tools I needed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is there some reason you need procps on FreeBSD? What tool(s) do
> > > > > > you need?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you need the Linux procps, then install your Linux compat
> > > > > > packages. It is included.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jeremy C. Reed
> > > > > >
> > > > > > BSD News, BSD tutorials, BSD links
> > > > > > http://www.bsdnewsletter.com/
> > > > > >
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ok so the conclusion is there is no such utility in bsd.
ill write the script for that.
any way thanks daniel.
On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 12:19, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 16:33, neeraj shrestha wrote:
> > $ watch -n1 'some command '
> > will run the command every 1 sec and show the output cont. on terminal.
> > so it is useful to monitor the size of log files and disk space usage.
>
> Ahh..
> You could write a shellscript version of that in short order I'd imagine :)
>
> > On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 11:21, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
> > > On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 16:02, neeraj shrestha wrote:
> > > > bsd "watch" doesnot allow me to continuously monitor a process or
> > > > command!! and also "top" doesnot shows the total physical memory that
> > > > my
> > >
> > > No need to use so many exclamation marks..
> > >
> > > What exactly does the linux watch command do?
> > >
> > > > system has?
> > >
> > > Well, I guess you could add up the fields ;)
> > > sysctl hw.physmem will show you how much physical memory the machine has.
> > >
> > > > On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 10:46, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
> > > > > On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 15:25, neeraj shrestha wrote:
> > > > > > i need "watch" and "free" commmand at least!!
> > > > > > is there bsd equivalent of these linux utilities?
> > > > >
> > > > > Well there is a FreeBSD command called watch which snoops on TTYs..
> > > > > You can use top to find out how much RAM is free.
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 22:38, Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
> > > > > > > On Fri, 11 Feb 2005, neeraj shrestha wrote:
> > > > > > > > i could not find the "procps" port or package for freebsd??
> > > > > > > > if there is available let me know!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > procps is the Linux /proc file system utilities. My package
> > > > > > > description is: The Linux /proc file system utilities are tools
> > > > > > > for reporting about and modifying the state of the system,
> > > > > > > including memory, processes, sending signals to processes, etc.
> > > > > > > The commands include free, oldps, pgrep, pkill, ps, skill, snice,
> > > > > > > sysctl, tload, top, vmstat, w and watch. (kill is not installed;
> > > > > > > it is available in the sysutils/util-linux package.) This version
> > > > > > > of procps is maintained by Albert Cahalan, based on original code
> > > > > > > from Michael K. Johnson.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I packaged it for Pkgsrc but ONLY_FOR_PLATFORM= Linux-*-* because
> > > > > > > this uses Linux include/asm/page.h. I never wasted time trying to
> > > > > > > port to and *BSD, because I already have the tools I needed.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Is there some reason you need procps on FreeBSD? What tool(s) do
> > > > > > > you need?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If you need the Linux procps, then install your Linux compat
> > > > > > > packages. It is included.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jeremy C. Reed
> > > > > > >
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/usr/ports/sysutils/cmdwatch is the equivilent of linux's "watch"
neeraj shrestha wrote:
>ok so the conclusion is there is no such utility in bsd.
>ill write the script for that.
>
>any way thanks daniel.
>
>On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 12:19, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
>
>
>>On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 16:33, neeraj shrestha wrote:
>>
>>
>>>$ watch -n1 'some command '
>>>will run the command every 1 sec and show the output cont. on terminal.
>>>so it is useful to monitor the size of log files and disk space usage.
>>>
>>>
>>Ahh..
>>You could write a shellscript version of that in short order I'd imagine :)
>>
>>
>>
>>>On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 11:21, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 16:02, neeraj shrestha wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>bsd "watch" doesnot allow me to continuously monitor a process or
>>>>>command!! and also "top" doesnot shows the total physical memory that
>>>>>my
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>No need to use so many exclamation marks..
>>>>
>>>>What exactly does the linux watch command do?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>system has?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>Well, I guess you could add up the fields ;)
>>>>sysctl hw.physmem will show you how much physical memory the machine has.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 10:46, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 15:25, neeraj shrestha wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>i need "watch" and "free" commmand at least!!
>>>>>>>is there bsd equivalent of these linux utilities?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>Well there is a FreeBSD command called watch which snoops on TTYs..
>>>>>>You can use top to find out how much RAM is free.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 22:38, Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Fri, 11 Feb 2005, neeraj shrestha wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>i could not find the "procps" port or package for freebsd??
>>>>>>>>>if there is available let me know!!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>procps is the Linux /proc file system utilities. My package
>>>>>>>>description is: The Linux /proc file system utilities are tools
>>>>>>>>for reporting about and modifying the state of the system,
>>>>>>>>including memory, processes, sending signals to processes, etc.
>>>>>>>>The commands include free, oldps, pgrep, pkill, ps, skill, snice,
>>>>>>>>sysctl, tload, top, vmstat, w and watch. (kill is not installed;
>>>>>>>>it is available in the sysutils/util-linux package.) This version
>>>>>>>>of procps is maintained by Albert Cahalan, based on original code
>>>>>>>>from Michael K. Johnson.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I packaged it for Pkgsrc but ONLY_FOR_PLATFORM= Linux-*-* because
>>>>>>>>this uses Linux include/asm/page.h. I never wasted time trying to
>>>>>>>>port to and *BSD, because I already have the tools I needed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Is there some reason you need procps on FreeBSD? What tool(s) do
>>>>>>>>you need?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If you need the Linux procps, then install your Linux compat
>>>>>>>>packages. It is included.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jeremy C. Reed
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> BSD News, BSD tutorials, BSD links
>>>>>>>> http://www.bsdnewsletter.com/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list
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Subject: Re: procps in bsd
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+-le 12/02/2005 11:48 +0545, neeraj shrestha =E9crivait :
| thanks daniel for your solution.
|=20
| What exactly does the linux watch command do?
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| $ watch -n1 'some command '
| will run the command every 1 sec and show the output cont. on terminal.
| so it is useful to monitor the size of log files and disk space usage.
try /usr/ports/misc/display
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Mathieu Arnold