From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 00:59:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E66F716A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 00:59:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 984D943D2D for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 00:59:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:02:47 -0600 Message-ID: <423CCAED.8090609@daleco.biz> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 18:59:25 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041210 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: P Stalidis References: <423C20AA.10106@it.teithe.gr> In-Reply-To: <423C20AA.10106@it.teithe.gr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Mar 2005 01:02:47.0884 (UTC) FILETIME=[883078C0:01C52CE8] cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org cc: Gert Cuykens Subject: Re: Are there actual any woman in the freebsd world X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 00:59:29 -0000 P Stalidis wrote: > Interesting thread... Actually my ex-girlfriend would say > "Dear, *your* sql server is down.... do you want me to bring it back > up?" :-X ROFL ... she must have been a super-geek. It begs the question, "is it a serious relationship if you know one another's root passwords?" I know a lady [and we'll call her that because I'm OF (Old Fashioned? Old Fart?) enough to think they should all deserve high respect] who I consider something of a geek (recently contacted me via email to discuss whether she should try setting their webserver up as an "in house" project or leasing one "out there") .... Anyway, the other day I zapped off an email to her and got it back real soon with some error indicating (incidentally enough) that MySQL wasn't behaving and the mail wouldn't be deliverable as a result. So I called the company she works for 3 states away and mentioned that, in case they were curious and didn't know already, their email server was crying out for attention. Some time later I saw her posting on a forum we both frequent, and asked about the server as an aside to the conversation. "It was only down about *sheesh* 12 hours", she says. As a result of that statement I now believe that she's either the webmaster or has moved to marketing/middle management.... KDK From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 17:52:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D65116A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:52:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F81B43D54 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:52:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from defcon8@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 37so652851wra for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:52:38 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=LeeGcg5vZN/Xl9V/+tTQ27pRKbUkOLGijMP90fqDzLpepUJ7pF5DtvgY5+oWM2PxftY/geylNtiKJD0LKJBRfN9YhyeWKjSisGay4klv7ElykA4xQo7d9eaCzWfER47esuRpNwiPY0lNp9qH0hWPENNBfFFTZ+n44qwtsAtfGmI= Received: by 10.54.45.26 with SMTP id s26mr2306537wrs; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:52:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.53.24 with HTTP; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:52:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:52:38 +0200 From: siraj kutlusan To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: any girl my age want to chat about freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: siraj kutlusan List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:52:39 -0000 hey im 14 and a male. i have been using freebsd for about one and a half year. and i was wondering if ther ewas a girl my age that wanted to talk about freebsd with me. i also like C, astrophysics mathematics etc From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 18:30:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DCCB16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:30:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C52E743D1D for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:30:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from defcon8@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 67so685007wri for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 10:30:16 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=EVLNaBbI1Hfd1D1v9yQSeJbL6Oc8TLGD4/OlPnEPSGVsukDO/ngNEApv/+P3OttMv4+BNQHTfkfYfYBq2EdJD8UPLQjtZglojQUpa9r/KnyGcoSLqMPahrg45i+JEvfFxEX/7aXVwZkUzSe+hKo2MtkRWd2nMrS6tEk8zgibTrg= Received: by 10.54.45.26 with SMTP id s26mr2326959wrs; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 10:30:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.53.24 with HTTP; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 10:30:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:30:16 +0200 From: siraj kutlusan To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Sorry X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: siraj kutlusan List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:30:17 -0000 I have been notified that the posting i made wasnt appropriate for this mailing list. I do wish to apologise. I thought it would be appropriate based on the asking if there were any women using FreeBSD. Please accept my apologies. From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 00:56:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DD7316A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:56:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E50AA43D48 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:56:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id f1so875739rne for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:56:05 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=Q08R3AL75R4JX8eDMHB30NSRy5tn/AoKFT9KvBV61QtUIS6w1fhE/ppbncUr+Vp7vQpTSYEv/9UjffvBeHAuO1BIe9u6WscsG8A36ckvR3z3hlS+8C+6lO4qvuIOP475XI8rLhyqQaQUDr5OBj5gYMIU+IlyImCwf+bgexV5tGY= Received: by 10.38.10.48 with SMTP id 48mr4185549rnj; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:56:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.23 with HTTP; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:56:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 01:56:05 +0100 From: Gert Cuykens To: siraj kutlusan In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sorry X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:56:06 -0000 On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:30:16 +0200, siraj kutlusan wrote: > I have been notified that the posting i made wasnt appropriate for > this mailing list. I do wish to apologise. I thought it would be > appropriate based on the asking if there were any women using FreeBSD. > Please accept my apologies. Now why would this be inappropriate ? From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 01:07:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D605E16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 01:07:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4747743D48 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 01:07:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gert.cuykens@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a41so817162rng for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:07:34 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=OxaEYD1IMVs0jGGEa5nkkwM+flifwmjvM3QlE+b3CFjXrevWelM6iRYvt+6s990gJ+lKWTbhq6s8BYR7cmIqOExbL5/Gf7uBuhNkxjZOUKeIi5R3hxNtB2zD0wHtivWHC+ilQEUDF9twdBfPJqMr1CBfNADaL/j5HTbt6IpQ8UM= Received: by 10.38.22.69 with SMTP id 69mr2547678rnv; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:07:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.23 with HTTP; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:07:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 02:07:34 +0100 From: Gert Cuykens To: siraj kutlusan In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: any girl my age want to chat about freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gert Cuykens List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 01:07:35 -0000 On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:52:38 +0200, siraj kutlusan wrote: > hey im 14 and a male. i have been using freebsd for about one and a > half year. and i was wondering if ther ewas a girl my age that wanted > to talk about freebsd with me. i also like C, astrophysics mathematics > etc lol i think this kid is already way smarter them me :) Note to admin if you tell him this is not a good place to ask, where els would he ask this ? Let me higlight a few words "using freebsd for about one and a half year." "i also like C, astrophysics mathematics" Now where the hell are you going to ask this ? I dont know in wich shool you have been but i would be kicked my ass for saying that. So i really think this would be the perfect place to ask. If his interest where MENEM or something ok then i maybe would agree :) From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 09:35:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFA8A16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:35:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 429CA43D58 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:35:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Jan.Grant@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.16.62]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DDJJN-0004dH-BG; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:35:04 +0000 Received: from cmjg (helo=localhost) by mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk with local-esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DDJJM-0000rH-IA; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:35:00 +0000 Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:35:00 +0000 (GMT) From: Jan Grant X-X-Sender: cmjg@mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk To: Gert Cuykens In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: Jan Grant X-Spam-Score: -2.8 X-Spam-Level: -- cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org cc: siraj kutlusan Subject: Re: any girl my age want to chat about freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:35:06 -0000 On Mon, 21 Mar 2005, Gert Cuykens wrote: > On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:52:38 +0200, siraj kutlusan wrote: > > hey im 14 and a male. i have been using freebsd for about one and a > > half year. and i was wondering if ther ewas a girl my age that wanted > > to talk about freebsd with me. i also like C, astrophysics mathematics > > etc > > lol i think this kid is already way smarter them me :) > > Note to admin if you tell him this is not a good place to ask, where > els would he ask this ? Let me higlight a few words > > "using freebsd for about one and a half year." > "i also like C, astrophysics mathematics" > > Now where the hell are you going to ask this ? I dont know in wich > shool you have been but i would be kicked my ass for saying that. So i > really think this would be the perfect place to ask. If his interest > where MENEM or something ok then i maybe would agree :) Please move this to freebsd-chat-up@ -- jan grant, ILRT, University of Bristol. http://www.ilrt.bris.ac.uk/ Tel +44(0)117 9287864 or +44 (0)117 9287088 http://ioctl.org/jan/ HP-unix: Open Sauce product, available in 57 distributions. From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 12:02:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E36E16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:02:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B60A643D1D for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:02:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226])j2LC2I12008761; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:02:18 +0200 Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (orion [127.0.0.1]) j2LC2qXM036236; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:02:52 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost)j2LC2qBm036235; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:02:52 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:02:52 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Gert Cuykens Message-ID: <20050321120252.GB13003@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sorry X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:02:57 -0000 On 2005-03-21 01:56, Gert Cuykens wrote: >On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:30:16 +0200, siraj kutlusan wrote: >> I have been notified that the posting i made wasnt appropriate for >> this mailing list. I do wish to apologise. I thought it would be >> appropriate based on the asking if there were any women using FreeBSD. >> Please accept my apologies. > > Now why would this be inappropriate ? Because this is not a "dating forum"? From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 13:46:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E59B16A4CF for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:46:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail48.e.nsc.no (mail48.e.nsc.no [193.213.115.48]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B084543D31 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:46:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from solskogen@carebears.mine.nu) Received: from carebears.mine.nu (062249172002.customer.alfanett.no [62.249.172.2]) by mail48.nsc.no (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j2LDkErI021947; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:46:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost.carebears.net [127.0.0.1]) by carebears.mine.nu (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE6F927E546; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:45:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from carebears.mine.nu ([127.0.0.1])port 10024) with ESMTP id 07623-08; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:45:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.9] (funshine.carebears.net [192.168.0.9]) by carebears.mine.nu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11E7827E530; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:45:18 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <423ED064.6080006@carebears.mine.nu> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:47:16 +0100 From: Christer Solskogen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041206 Thunderbird/1.0 Mnenhy/0.7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Giorgos Keramidas References: <20050321120252.GB13003@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> In-Reply-To: <20050321120252.GB13003@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavis at tenderheart.carebears.net cc: Gert Cuykens cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sorry X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:46:23 -0000 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2005-03-21 01:56, Gert Cuykens wrote: > >>On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:30:16 +0200, siraj kutlusan wrote: >> >>>I have been notified that the posting i made wasnt appropriate for >>>this mailing list. I do wish to apologise. I thought it would be >>>appropriate based on the asking if there were any women using FreeBSD. >>>Please accept my apologies. >> >>Now why would this be inappropriate ? > > > Because this is not a "dating forum"? > Damn, I was quite sure chat@ included dating :) -- cso From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 14:17:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE70116A515 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:17:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail24.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail24.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7686A43D2F for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:17:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 20801 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2005 14:17:42 -0000 Received: from server.baldwin.cx ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender )AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 21 Mar 2005 14:17:41 -0000 Received: from slimer.baldwin.cx (slimer.baldwin.cx [192.168.0.16]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2LEHTnL045762; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:17:36 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.org Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:20:30 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <20050321120252.GB13003@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> In-Reply-To: <20050321120252.GB13003@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200503210820.30130.jhb@FreeBSD.org> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on server.baldwin.cx cc: Giorgos Keramidas cc: Gert Cuykens Subject: Re: Sorry X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:17:42 -0000 On Monday 21 March 2005 07:02 am, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2005-03-21 01:56, Gert Cuykens wrote: > >On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:30:16 +0200, siraj kutlusan wrote: > >> I have been notified that the posting i made wasnt appropriate for > >> this mailing list. I do wish to apologise. I thought it would be > >> appropriate based on the asking if there were any women using FreeBSD. > >> Please accept my apologies. > > > > Now why would this be inappropriate ? > > Because this is not a "dating forum"? So now we need a freebsd-dating mailing list? :-) -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve" = http://www.FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 14:43:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE8BC16A4CE; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:43:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [195.170.0.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B148743D1F; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:43:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226])j2LEh6Mg027618; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:43:07 +0200 Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (orion [127.0.0.1]) j2LEhbZM099247; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:43:37 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost)j2LEhbBl099246; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:43:37 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:43:37 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: John Baldwin Message-ID: <20050321144336.GA99231@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <20050321120252.GB13003@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <200503210820.30130.jhb@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200503210820.30130.jhb@FreeBSD.org> cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Sorry X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:43:42 -0000 On 2005-03-21 08:20, John Baldwin wrote: >On Monday 21 March 2005 07:02 am, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >>On 2005-03-21 01:56, Gert Cuykens wrote: >>>On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:30:16 +0200, siraj kutlusan wrote: >>>> I have been notified that the posting i made wasnt appropriate for >>>> this mailing list. I do wish to apologise. I thought it would be >>>> appropriate based on the asking if there were any women using FreeBSD. >>>> Please accept my apologies. >>> >>> Now why would this be inappropriate ? >> >> Because this is not a "dating forum"? > > So now we need a freebsd-dating mailing list? :-) /me screams "Oh no!" and runs From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 15:28:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59E0816A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:28:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF22C43D48 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:28:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from defcon8@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 36so1015004wra for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 07:28:33 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=I/OXOOLFb7B+IHvAD3ZtjBPlTIUTr4dA267vqzM9Yqr8i4ZDa13PWzb8n5u8+0oWUcBOVmjKDY+CneZ8N1N/ZyK70lFfRm1+N78Dp/il7RZLiJoDFlL2tD24CMAraMqXK9LWtyQMfIsusOL0LiwOjaGgNP7Zn8bECtlkNWwSkUU= Received: by 10.54.45.26 with SMTP id s26mr3022393wrs; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 07:28:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.53.24 with HTTP; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 07:28:24 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:28:24 +0200 From: siraj kutlusan To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: freebsd kernel developing X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: siraj kutlusan List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:28:34 -0000 This may sound like a silly question but do the FreeBSD kernel developers come form all around the world or are they only in one place? And if they are all around the world. Do you need any special qualifications to become one? From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 16:16:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DF0416A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:16:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C91D43D48 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:16:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:19:20 -0600 Message-ID: <423EF33D.4040402@daleco.biz> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:15:57 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041210 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jan Grant References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Mar 2005 16:19:20.0790 (UTC) FILETIME=[BCEDBF60:01C52E31] cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: any girl my age want to chat about freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:16:01 -0000 Jan Grant wrote: >Please move this to freebsd-chat-up@ > > > ROFLTIP! And cc it to postmaster to make sure he links that to the bit-bucket?? Maybe we need to start putting the list charter in an auto-included footer along with the "unsubscribe" stuff that nobody reads either? Of course, it's pretty vague ... So, who can define for us if you're supposed to have any idea who you are "chatting" at/to/with? Kevin From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 17:42:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4424716A4D4 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:42:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [195.170.0.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52F2243D46 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:42:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226])j2LHfjZV004811; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:41:45 +0200 Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (orion [127.0.0.1]) j2LHgFx5017152; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:42:15 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from keramida@localhost)j2LHgFsx017151; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:42:15 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:42:15 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: siraj kutlusan Message-ID: <20050321174215.GA15496@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd kernel developing X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:42:18 -0000 On 2005-03-21 17:28, siraj kutlusan wrote: > This may sound like a silly question but do the FreeBSD kernel > developers come form all around the world or are they only in one > place? All over the world. > And if they are all around the world. Do you need any special > qualifications to become one? Good knowledge of C and a relatively good level of familiarity with UNIX tools like make is an absolute must have. Contributions, in the form of patches that fix known issues or add useful features to the kernel, are the next thing. See http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributing/ for details about possible ways that you can contribute to FreeBSD in general :-) - Giorgos From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 17:54:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 201D816A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:54:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bunrab.catwhisker.org (adsl-63-193-123-122.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.193.123.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A425D43D3F for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:54:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from bunrab.catwhisker.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bunrab.catwhisker.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j2LHspK2049498 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:54:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from david@bunrab.catwhisker.org) Received: (from david@localhost) by bunrab.catwhisker.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j2LHspQS049497 for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:54:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from david) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:54:51 -0800 From: David Wolfskill To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050321175451.GI41509@bunrab.catwhisker.org> References: <423EF33D.4040402@daleco.biz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <423EF33D.4040402@daleco.biz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: any girl my age want to chat about freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:54:52 -0000 On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 10:15:57AM -0600, Kevin Kinsey wrote: > Jan Grant wrote: > > >Please move this to freebsd-chat-up@ > > ROFLTIP! And cc it to postmaster to make sure > he links that to the bit-bucket?? I assure you that postmaster@ is subscribed to chat@ (but would have no incentive to be subscribed to a chat-up@). > Maybe we need to start putting the list charter > in an auto-included footer along with the "unsubscribe" > stuff that nobody reads either? Of course, it's pretty > vague ... chat@ is essentially a catch-all for anything left over if no other list @FreeBSD.org is appropriate, and the topic has some demonstrable connection to FreeBSD or the FreeBSD Project. After all, if folks on chat@ can discuss Jordan's cats.... That said, folks are expected to (mostly) be sufficiently mature to behave themselves: I doubt you folks want the additional latency of my involvement for most mailing list messages, so I'm reluctant to impose draconian measures. (That latency would add an average of about 12 hrs., usually.) I respectfully submit that a mailing list is unlikely to be an ideal forum for the type activity in question -- especially if it (like chat@) is archived, with publicly-accessible archives. :-} Peace, david (current hat: postmaster@freebsd.org) -- David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org There is a place in software engineering for an appreciation of history. See http://www.catwhisker.org/~david/publickey.gpg for public key. From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 18:36:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63BA116A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:36:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail24.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail24.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D983843D5D for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:36:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 13986 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2005 18:36:34 -0000 Received: from server.baldwin.cx ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender )AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 21 Mar 2005 18:36:34 -0000 Received: from [10.50.41.231] (gw1.twc.weather.com [216.133.140.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2LIaPDQ047594; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:36:26 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.org, siraj kutlusan Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:27:43 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200503211127.43874.jhb@FreeBSD.org> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.8 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=failed version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on server.baldwin.cx Subject: Re: freebsd kernel developing X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:36:35 -0000 On Monday 21 March 2005 10:28 am, siraj kutlusan wrote: > This may sound like a silly question but do the FreeBSD kernel > developers come form all around the world or are they only in one > place? And if they are all around the world. Do you need any special > qualifications to become one? All over. The only real qualifications are 1) a desire to do it in the first place that serves as motivation, 2) being able to get along with others, and 3) just sitting down and fixing problems, etc. and submitting the ideas and patches. If they fit in with what the rest of the existing group thinks the direction is, then they will eventually be added to the tree. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve" = http://www.FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 09:52:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA50516A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:52:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F0F243D5A for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:52:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1DDg3n-0004OL-00 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:52:27 +0000 Received: from esperance.zetnet.co.uk (bts-0899.dialup.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.51.131]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9) with ESMTP id j2M9qPxx021508 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:52:25 GMT Received: (qmail 649 invoked by uid 1001); 22 Mar 2005 09:51:41 -0000 From: "Frank Shute" Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:51:41 +0000 To: siraj kutlusan Message-ID: <20050322095141.GA431@peach.veggie.com> Mail-Followup-To: siraj kutlusan , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.11-PRERELEASE i386 X-Organisation: 'Esperance Linux' cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd kernel developing X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:52:29 -0000 On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 05:28:24PM +0200, siraj kutlusan wrote: > > This may sound like a silly question but do the FreeBSD kernel > developers come form all around the world or are they only in one > place? And if they are all around the world. Do you need any special > qualifications to become one? Since you're a young guy, I'm guessing you haven't used FreeBSD much. As such I'd lurk on hackers and maybe current or stable or questions for a bit. Get a "feel" for the place first. I'd start on docs first. Write some corrections and patches (a translation perhaps?), learn how to use send-pr(1), diff(1) etc. As for meeting girls of about 14 who are interested in C, astrophysics, maths and FreeBSD: the chances here or anywhere are remote (short of uni). I'm a sexist pig and the girls I meet only need to meet one requirement: they've got to be friendly. (Who though I was going to say "big jugs"? Shame on you!) That requirement usually rules out all the really physically attractive ones - they think they don't have to try. That doesn't matter, to quote WC Fields with regards women: "Anything more than a handful is a waste" ;) Try and take an interest in what girls are interested in. If you show an interest in their interests they're likely to show an interest in you. Maybe some graphic design with the Gimp? A bit of web design? Babe: "I want help with my website" You(now): "Sorry, I'm a kernel hacker" You(soon): "Sure I can help. I can do graphic design, mark-up etc. Perhaps I can call around and help when your parents are out" ...[later]... Babe: "How can I ever thank you....." You: "I'll think of something..." =P In short, use your l33t haXor skills to break into places (and I'm not talking about computers :) I think I better stop here before I get busted for inciting a minor or something... Disclaimer: I'm probably one of those Internet perverts you read about in the newspapers. All the best! -- Frank print "f r a n k @ e s p e r a n c e - l i n u x . c o . u k" | sed 's/ //g' --->PGP keyID: 0x10BD6F4B<--- From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 15:02:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D73616A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:02:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8725A43D3F for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:02:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from defcon8@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so983618wri for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 07:02:22 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=KakGeOPdb3r/9Fg4vGLjv9UdMKVkIqX7RiYHWTfvenbVKcUZ3pEfQ6Q46C4jnOKCsPTKVi2H//BSN5WnWuBjhIuB/G005B95zs+DEhbhZVQS2bZ/LN8X22qG+sJeJe0Rk8yHVEaJjcKFLM8moDezfMwsTCB5tmefiF4u5x9uKLs= Received: by 10.54.11.31 with SMTP id 31mr482114wrk; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 07:02:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.53.24 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 07:01:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:01:53 +0200 From: siraj kutlusan To: Frank Shute , siraj kutlusan , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050322095141.GA431@peach.veggie.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050322095141.GA431@peach.veggie.com> Subject: Re: freebsd kernel developing X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: siraj kutlusan List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:02:24 -0000 i think you understood me wrong. i was looking for a girl for her interests not looks. On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:51:41 +0000, Frank Shute wrote: > On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 05:28:24PM +0200, siraj kutlusan wrote: > > > > This may sound like a silly question but do the FreeBSD kernel > > developers come form all around the world or are they only in one > > place? And if they are all around the world. Do you need any special > > qualifications to become one? > > Since you're a young guy, I'm guessing you haven't used FreeBSD much. > As such I'd lurk on hackers and maybe current or stable or questions > for a bit. Get a "feel" for the place first. > > I'd start on docs first. Write some corrections and patches (a > translation perhaps?), learn how to use send-pr(1), diff(1) etc. > > As for meeting girls of about 14 who are interested in C, > astrophysics, maths and FreeBSD: the chances here or anywhere > are remote (short of uni). > > I'm a sexist pig and the girls I meet only need to meet one > requirement: they've got to be friendly. > > (Who though I was going to say "big jugs"? Shame on you!) > > That requirement usually rules out all the really physically > attractive ones - they think they don't have to try. > > That doesn't matter, to quote WC Fields with regards women: > > "Anything more than a handful is a waste" > > ;) > > Try and take an interest in what girls are interested in. If you show > an interest in their interests they're likely to show an interest in > you. > > Maybe some graphic design with the Gimp? A bit of web design? > > Babe: "I want help with my website" > > You(now): "Sorry, I'm a kernel hacker" > > You(soon): "Sure I can help. I can do graphic design, mark-up etc. > Perhaps I can call around and help when your parents are out" > > ...[later]... > > Babe: "How can I ever thank you....." > > You: "I'll think of something..." > > =P > > In short, use your l33t haXor skills to break into places (and I'm not > talking about computers :) > > I think I better stop here before I get busted for inciting a minor or > something... > > Disclaimer: I'm probably one of those Internet perverts you read > about in the newspapers. > > All the best! > > -- > > Frank > > print "f r a n k @ e s p e r a n c e - l i n u x . c o . u k" | sed 's/ //g' > > --->PGP keyID: 0x10BD6F4B<--- > From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 15:05:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD93616A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:05:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ED0743D1F for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:05:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from defcon8@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so984471wri for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 07:05:20 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=a2MxM3GxW/lxacsR8qXUQZCNDuqiRYtBVXvx5qzPe72o5X5sKafZ8etGtcVFAwWybGjOqK3FxMFRk96gHkv8OddahMWdlbqRlrwLAzWkzkn+qsgH9YBuHtmGzTjGDBOS009bbRPuZZYmXpgixBmi3fWB8AFxbWSoDzGLOtPDnTM= Received: by 10.54.39.39 with SMTP id m39mr290536wrm; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 07:05:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.53.24 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 07:05:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:05:20 +0200 From: siraj kutlusan To: Frank Shute , siraj kutlusan , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050322095141.GA431@peach.veggie.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050322095141.GA431@peach.veggie.com> Subject: Re: freebsd kernel developing X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: siraj kutlusan List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:05:21 -0000 i think you understood me wrong. i was looking for a girl for her interests not looks. oh and i have been using FreeBSD for 1.5 years now but i havent been very serious with it. oh and i would like to reqest Turkish keyboard support on FreeBSD. As I am forced to use it here. I know other people have requested it for a while and i dont know why it isnt added instead of having to config it all. I could config it but what about the Turkish people that want to use FreeBSD for the first time and just want the turkish Q keyboard working straight away. On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:51:41 +0000, Frank Shute wrote: > On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 05:28:24PM +0200, siraj kutlusan wrote: > > > > This may sound like a silly question but do the FreeBSD kernel > > developers come form all around the world or are they only in one > > place? And if they are all around the world. Do you need any special > > qualifications to become one? > > Since you're a young guy, I'm guessing you haven't used FreeBSD much. > As such I'd lurk on hackers and maybe current or stable or questions > for a bit. Get a "feel" for the place first. > > I'd start on docs first. Write some corrections and patches (a > translation perhaps?), learn how to use send-pr(1), diff(1) etc. > > As for meeting girls of about 14 who are interested in C, > astrophysics, maths and FreeBSD: the chances here or anywhere > are remote (short of uni). > > I'm a sexist pig and the girls I meet only need to meet one > requirement: they've got to be friendly. > > (Who though I was going to say "big jugs"? Shame on you!) > > That requirement usually rules out all the really physically > attractive ones - they think they don't have to try. > > That doesn't matter, to quote WC Fields with regards women: > > "Anything more than a handful is a waste" > > ;) > > Try and take an interest in what girls are interested in. If you show > an interest in their interests they're likely to show an interest in > you. > > Maybe some graphic design with the Gimp? A bit of web design? > > Babe: "I want help with my website" > > You(now): "Sorry, I'm a kernel hacker" > > You(soon): "Sure I can help. I can do graphic design, mark-up etc. > Perhaps I can call around and help when your parents are out" > > ...[later]... > > Babe: "How can I ever thank you....." > > You: "I'll think of something..." > > =P > > In short, use your l33t haXor skills to break into places (and I'm not > talking about computers :) > > I think I better stop here before I get busted for inciting a minor or > something... > > Disclaimer: I'm probably one of those Internet perverts you read > about in the newspapers. > > All the best! > > -- > > Frank > > print "f r a n k @ e s p e r a n c e - l i n u x . c o . u k" | sed 's/ //g' > > --->PGP keyID: 0x10BD6F4B<--- > From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 19:39:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A73116A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:39:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86A0343D53 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:39:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1DDpDm-0005hc-00 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:39:22 +0000 Received: from esperance.zetnet.co.uk (bts-0341.dialup.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.49.85]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9) with ESMTP id j2MJdIMk008978 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:39:21 GMT Received: (qmail 1907 invoked by uid 1001); 22 Mar 2005 19:38:42 -0000 From: "Frank Shute" Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:38:42 +0000 To: siraj kutlusan Message-ID: <20050322193842.GA1757@peach.veggie.com> Mail-Followup-To: siraj kutlusan , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org References: <20050322095141.GA431@peach.veggie.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.11-PRERELEASE i386 X-Organisation: 'Esperance Linux' cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd kernel developing X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:39:24 -0000 On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 05:05:20PM +0200, siraj kutlusan wrote: > > i think you understood me wrong. i was looking for a girl for her > interests not looks. Yeah, that's what we all say ;) I was largely joking though. All FreeBSDers require a laugh now & then. > oh and i have been using FreeBSD for 1.5 years now but i havent been > very serious with it. oh and i would like to reqest Turkish keyboard > support on FreeBSD. As I am forced to use it here. I know other people > have requested it for a while and i dont know why it isnt added > instead of having to config it all. I could config it but what about > the Turkish people that want to use FreeBSD for the first time and > just want the turkish Q keyboard working straight away. Basically with any unix you spend a few days getting it configured which means sorting out your keyboard etc. Unless you buy a unix machine off a vendor and even then you'd have to tweak it. I did my tweaking about 4-5 years ago on this machine. ie. Do it once and forget about it. When you're more familiar with FreeBSD, you'll find it fairly straightforward. When I have to do it again (when I get my next machine), I'll just copy my tweaks over. One tweak for you to map your Windows keys and F5 in the console to something useful: kbdcontrol -f 62 "sudo reboot" kbdcontrol -f 64 "sudo halt -p" kbdcontrol -f 5 "less " and F5 in ~/.Xdefaults: XTerm*VT100*translations: #override \ F5 : string("less ") I suppose you could write a perl script to do all the necessary tweaks sort of automagically when it's called. ie. It sorts out syscons(4) via kbdcontrol(1), edits XF86Config, sets $TERM etc. Something you could have a bash at if you're keen. It's worth learning perl if you haven't already. It's a good language for sysadmin along with shell. -- Frank print "f r a n k @ e s p e r a n c e - l i n u x . c o . u k" | sed 's/ //g' --->PGP keyID: 0x10BD6F4B<--- From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 20:45:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DFEC16A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:45:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91.asp.att.net [204.127.203.211]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB8E443D31 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:45:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from josh@tcbug.org) Received: from [10.0.0.10] (12-218-21-193.client.mchsi.com[12.218.21.193]) by sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91) with ESMTP id <20050322204548m9100pv4sce>; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:45:49 +0000 From: Josh Paetzel To: chat@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:45:47 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503221445.47796.josh@tcbug.org> Subject: Wasted CPU cycles X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:45:50 -0000 I have a dual 2.0ghz athlon system here that pretty much idles throughout the day. It's on a fairly pathetic link (3mbps/256kbps) but if anyone could make use of it I'd be glad to donate the CPU time. -- Thanks, Josh Paetzel From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 20:58:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B87016A4CE for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:58:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cydem.org (S0106000103ce4c9c.ed.shawcable.net [68.149.254.167]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C7DE43D39 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:58:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from soralx@cydem.org) Received: from S01060020ed3972ba.ed.shawcable.net (S01060020ed3972ba.ed.shawcable.net [68.149.254.68]) by cydem.org (Postfix/FreeBSD) with ESMTP id 4CFA03865A; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:58:54 -0700 (MST) From: To: Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:59:26 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 References: <200503221445.47796.josh@tcbug.org> In-Reply-To: <200503221445.47796.josh@tcbug.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503221359.26211.soralx@cydem.org> cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wasted CPU cycles X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:58:55 -0000 > I have a dual 2.0ghz athlon system here that pretty much idles > throughout the day. It's on a fairly pathetic link (3mbps/256kbps) > but if anyone could make use of it I'd be glad to donate the CPU > time. If noone will need your CPU time, I suggest this: http://www.childhooddiseases.org/download.html http://d2ol.childhooddiseases.org/stats/snapshot.jsp The only possible problem is that it requires Java. Timestamp: 0x424085E2 [SorAlx] http://cydem.org.ua/ ridin' VN1500-B2 From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 22 21:19:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBB7A16A4CF for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:19:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D4DC43D2D for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:19:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from defcon8@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so1106627wri for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:19:29 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=YevJiI/Ydngyn0gXUKgBswxipArJ88CkHCGy36zkOmBfQvyOpCIjetJ7BurFbBh38qkcB89Lsj3x4ov+q7UJyQfYqgqUUq8f8SmugZhGV/CRPluk4D/m9VLMgMOCJ/boqhL6sfIDma8k7+/0Dq8e4IgrbDUbAn0tWOcaewomYQk= Received: by 10.54.103.7 with SMTP id a7mr294896wrc; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:19:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.53.24 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:19:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:19:29 +0200 From: siraj kutlusan To: Frank Shute , siraj kutlusan , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050322193842.GA1757@peach.veggie.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050322095141.GA431@peach.veggie.com> <20050322193842.GA1757@peach.veggie.com> Subject: Re: freebsd kernel developing X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: siraj kutlusan List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:19:31 -0000 wasnt perl originally developed because some guy couldnt get what he wanted out of awk? oh and i see you use a gpg id. you didnt give the server you uploaded it to so how do i find out its really you? (I just started finding out about gpg today) On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:38:42 +0000, Frank Shute wrote: > On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 05:05:20PM +0200, siraj kutlusan wrote: > > > > i think you understood me wrong. i was looking for a girl for her > > interests not looks. > > Yeah, that's what we all say ;) > > I was largely joking though. All FreeBSDers require a laugh now & then. > > > oh and i have been using FreeBSD for 1.5 years now but i havent been > > very serious with it. oh and i would like to reqest Turkish keyboard > > support on FreeBSD. As I am forced to use it here. I know other people > > have requested it for a while and i dont know why it isnt added > > instead of having to config it all. I could config it but what about > > the Turkish people that want to use FreeBSD for the first time and > > just want the turkish Q keyboard working straight away. > > Basically with any unix you spend a few days getting it configured > which means sorting out your keyboard etc. Unless you buy a unix > machine off a vendor and even then you'd have to tweak it. > > I did my tweaking about 4-5 years ago on this machine. ie. Do it once > and forget about it. When you're more familiar with FreeBSD, you'll > find it fairly straightforward. When I have to do it again (when I get > my next machine), I'll just copy my tweaks over. > > One tweak for you to map your Windows keys and F5 in the console to > something useful: > > kbdcontrol -f 62 "sudo reboot" > kbdcontrol -f 64 "sudo halt -p" > kbdcontrol -f 5 "less " > > and F5 in ~/.Xdefaults: > > XTerm*VT100*translations: #override \ > F5 : string("less ") > > I suppose you could write a perl script to do all the necessary tweaks > sort of automagically when it's called. ie. It sorts out syscons(4) > via kbdcontrol(1), edits XF86Config, sets $TERM etc. > > Something you could have a bash at if you're keen. It's worth learning > perl if you haven't already. It's a good language for sysadmin along > with shell. > > -- > > Frank > > print "f r a n k @ e s p e r a n c e - l i n u x . c o . u k" | sed 's/ //g' > > --->PGP keyID: 0x10BD6F4B<--- > From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 10:14:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5FC116A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 10:14:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from swip.net (mailfe03.swip.net [212.247.154.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9335343D31 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 10:14:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xride@x12.dk) X-T2-Posting-ID: lkM/Dn7LTUP9vUt2XCoVCw== Received: from x12.dk ([83.72.97.237] verified) by mailfe03.swip.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.9) with ESMTP id 129181411; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:14:10 +0100 Received: by x12.dk (Postfix, from userid 666) id 1C2FE208A; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:14:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by x12.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id E68D5206C; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:14:09 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:14:05 +0100 (CET) From: Soeren Straarup To: Frank Shute In-Reply-To: <20050322193842.GA1757@peach.veggie.com> Message-ID: <20050323110958.M97576@x12.dk> References: <20050322193842.GA1757@peach.veggie.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org cc: siraj kutlusan Subject: Re: freebsd kernel developing X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 10:14:13 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 22 Mar 2005, Frank Shute wrote: > On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 05:05:20PM +0200, siraj kutlusan wrote: > > > > i think you understood me wrong. i was looking for a girl for her > > interests not looks. Hehe, my daughter is a FreeBSD tester. But i wouldn't let her go out with any one over the physical age of 2, since she is turning 2 this summer. For my wife she is just an ordinary FreeBSD user. > > Yeah, that's what we all say ;) > > I was largely joking though. All FreeBSDers require a laugh now & then. > > > oh and i have been using FreeBSD for 1.5 years now but i havent been > > very serious with it. oh and i would like to reqest Turkish keyboard > > support on FreeBSD. As I am forced to use it here. I know other people > > have requested it for a while and i dont know why it isnt added > > instead of having to config it all. I could config it but what about > > the Turkish people that want to use FreeBSD for the first time and > > just want the turkish Q keyboard working straight away. For me i've been using FreeBSD since 2.2.6-R mrtch '98 An i'm still not FreeBSD certified (have commit bit), working at getting the skills though. > > Basically with any unix you spend a few days getting it configured > which means sorting out your keyboard etc. Unless you buy a unix > machine off a vendor and even then you'd have to tweak it. > > I did my tweaking about 4-5 years ago on this machine. ie. Do it once > and forget about it. When you're more familiar with FreeBSD, you'll > find it fairly straightforward. When I have to do it again (when I get > my next machine), I'll just copy my tweaks over. > > One tweak for you to map your Windows keys and F5 in the console to > something useful: > > kbdcontrol -f 62 "sudo reboot" > kbdcontrol -f 64 "sudo halt -p" > kbdcontrol -f 5 "less " > > and F5 in ~/.Xdefaults: > > XTerm*VT100*translations: #override \ > F5 : string("less ") > > I suppose you could write a perl script to do all the necessary tweaks > sort of automagically when it's called. ie. It sorts out syscons(4) > via kbdcontrol(1), edits XF86Config, sets $TERM etc. > > Something you could have a bash at if you're keen. It's worth learning > perl if you haven't already. It's a good language for sysadmin along > with shell. I have resently looked at python it seems to be a pretty decent language. With my style skills it rocks, cause now i read readable code. > > -- > > Frank > > > print "f r a n k @ e s p e r a n c e - l i n u x . c o . u k" | sed 's/ /= /g' > > --->PGP keyID: 0x10BD6F4B<--- \S=F8ren Straarup Soeren Straarup | aka OZ2DAK aka Xride FreeBSD wannabe | FreeBSD since 2.2.6-R 'We wanted to believe. But the tools had been taken away..' Mulder -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCQUFxXTGeGCdlN14RAlzhAKCkDBww7DkfG89oPWNDIWqcEKVSQwCfS0my BnqiBm1fsivKKzNom5ZpvJc=3D =3DoN18 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 14:10:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5618A16A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:10:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EBDE43D46 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:10:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1DE6ZF-0000g1-00 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:10:41 +0000 Received: from esperance.zetnet.co.uk (bts-0541.dialup.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.50.29]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9) with ESMTP id j2NEAWJD006152 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:10:38 GMT Received: (qmail 8271 invoked by uid 1001); 23 Mar 2005 14:09:36 -0000 From: "Frank Shute" Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:09:36 +0000 To: siraj kutlusan Message-ID: <20050323140936.GA8225@peach.veggie.com> Mail-Followup-To: siraj kutlusan , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org References: <20050322095141.GA431@peach.veggie.com> <20050322193842.GA1757@peach.veggie.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.11-PRERELEASE i386 X-Organisation: 'Esperance Linux' cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd kernel developing X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:10:45 -0000 --ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 11:19:29PM +0200, siraj kutlusan wrote: > > wasnt perl originally developed because some guy couldnt get what he > wanted out of awk?=20 Perl was sort of invented by Larry Wall to roll all the functionality of Awk, Sed and shell into one language. I still use sed, awk and shell on occasion too ;) see: http://www.perl.org/ > oh and i see you use a gpg id. you didnt give the > server you uploaded it to so how do i find out its really you? (I just > started finding out about gpg today) You stick my keyID into Google or go to my website and grovel about there to find my public key. My website is my "keyserver". You don't know it's "me". Read about the "web/ring of trust" with the pgp/gpg docs. The pgp FAQ is good. BTW, you'll notice most developers sign their posts/patches which is a worthwhile practice and they don't use gmail accounts. I'll sign this to give you something to authenticate. --=20 Frank=20 print "f r a n k @ e s p e r a n c e - l i n u x . c o . u k" | sed 's/ //g' --->PGP keyID: 0x10BD6F4B<--- = =20 --ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBQkF4nryGwlIQvW9LEQIIHACeKvKePw2/f5JmWfOiNL9Kb7I0HrYAoNyc nBKo5BdUMPLuQVcjpGAA5zSB =kFrs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv-- From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 14:28:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1520816A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:28:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9649843D46 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:28:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from defcon8@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so192855wri for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 06:28:58 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=F+cFhJ/Fu6nIPpyJ7g62FFiGsFGMnuMsEuW0EgIDhLtFRAfoPa1muDf6AoeJfbHGPm91XRLTOdTQ7mUoYbhbAxGJC0LXtxz+MOyNmlcjBolRvOIsvYjDIU8bxeGiRB+/ecdcWdcifKJ8QATYFXEs/RSRPKza7qPQDr+ibC0tK5U= Received: by 10.54.105.17 with SMTP id d17mr295502wrc; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 06:28:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.53.24 with HTTP; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 06:28:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:28:58 +0200 From: siraj kutlusan To: Frank Shute , siraj kutlusan , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050323140936.GA8225@peach.veggie.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20050322095141.GA431@peach.veggie.com> <20050322193842.GA1757@peach.veggie.com> <20050323140936.GA8225@peach.veggie.com> Subject: Re: freebsd kernel developing X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: siraj kutlusan List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:28:59 -0000 i didnt quite get that. what am i meant to do with the gpg key you just sent? compare it to your key id or something? and by signing they really mean attaching their own key dont they. On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:09:36 +0000, Frank Shute wrote: > On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 11:19:29PM +0200, siraj kutlusan wrote: > > > > wasnt perl originally developed because some guy couldnt get what he > > wanted out of awk? > > Perl was sort of invented by Larry Wall to roll all the functionality > of Awk, Sed and shell into one language. I still use sed, awk and > shell on occasion too ;) > > see: http://www.perl.org/ > > > oh and i see you use a gpg id. you didnt give the > > server you uploaded it to so how do i find out its really you? (I just > > started finding out about gpg today) > > You stick my keyID into Google or go to my website and grovel about > there to find my public key. My website is my "keyserver". > > You don't know it's "me". Read about the "web/ring of trust" with the > pgp/gpg docs. The pgp FAQ is good. > > BTW, you'll notice most developers sign their posts/patches which is a > worthwhile practice and they don't use gmail accounts. > > I'll sign this to give you something to authenticate. > > -- > > Frank > > print "f r a n k @ e s p e r a n c e - l i n u x . c o . u k" | sed 's/ //g' > > --->PGP keyID: 0x10BD6F4B<--- > > > From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 17:52:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E771F16A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:52:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bgo1smout1.broadpark.no (bgo1smout1.broadpark.no [217.13.4.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FBEA43D1D for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:52:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from bgo1sminn1.broadpark.no ([217.13.4.93]) by bgo1smout1.broadpark.no (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.05 (built Oct 21 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IDT00AQ3G27LOC0@bgo1smout1.broadpark.no> for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:46:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from dsa.des.no ([80.203.228.37]) by bgo1sminn1.broadpark.no (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.05 (built Oct 21 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IDT0087HGE4UOQE@bgo1sminn1.broadpark.no> for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:54:05 +0100 (CET) Received: by dsa.des.no (Pony Express, from userid 666) id 355C5BDC4B; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:52:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from xps.des.no (xps.des.no [10.0.0.12]) by dsa.des.no (Pony Express) with ESMTP id AF523BDC37; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:52:20 +0100 (CET) Received: by xps.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A3C9633C1B; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:52:20 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:52:20 +0100 From: des@des.no (=?iso-8859-1?q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?=) In-reply-to: <20050323140936.GA8225@peach.veggie.com> To: siraj kutlusan Message-id: <86u0n2i71n.fsf@xps.des.no> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on dsa.des.no References: <20050322095141.GA431@peach.veggie.com> <20050322193842.GA1757@peach.veggie.com> <20050323140936.GA8225@peach.veggie.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110002 (No Gnus v0.2) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL autolearn=disabled version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Level: cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd kernel developing X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:52:27 -0000 "Frank Shute" writes: > BTW, you'll notice most developers sign their posts/patches Not FreeBSD developers. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav - des@des.no From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 22:24:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC77316A4CE for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:24:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69D4543D3F for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:24:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1DEEHY-0000Xv-00 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:24:56 +0000 Received: from esperance.zetnet.co.uk (bts-0010.dialup.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.48.10]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-9) with ESMTP id j2NMOscr002943 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:24:55 GMT Received: (qmail 1232 invoked by uid 1001); 23 Mar 2005 19:14:28 -0000 From: "Frank Shute" Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:14:28 +0000 To: siraj kutlusan Message-ID: <20050323191428.GA1191@peach.veggie.com> Mail-Followup-To: siraj kutlusan , FreeBSD chat References: <20050322095141.GA431@peach.veggie.com> <20050322193842.GA1757@peach.veggie.com> <20050323140936.GA8225@peach.veggie.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.11-PRERELEASE i386 X-Organisation: 'Esperance Linux' cc: FreeBSD chat Subject: Re: freebsd kernel developing X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:24:58 -0000 On Wed, Mar 23, 2005 at 04:28:58PM +0200, siraj kutlusan wrote: > > i didnt quite get that. what am i meant to do with the gpg key you > just sent? compare it to your key id or something? and by signing they > really mean attaching their own key dont they. > You get my public key from: http://www.esperance-linux.co.uk/misc/pgp-key.txt you can then check that the signed message I sent was signed with my secret key thus confirming that I was the originator of the message and it hasn't been tampered with (the sig's a hash). I didn't send you a key, I sent you a message with a pgp signature. BTW, questions about pgp/gpg, or anything else not strictly concerning FreeBSD, shouldn't be addressed to the list as it's pretty off-topic. Feel free to contact me off list although there are better resources on the 'net than me, I am far from an expert in anything in particular. -- Frank print "f r a n k @ e s p e r a n c e - l i n u x . c o . u k" | sed 's/ //g' --->PGP keyID: 0x10BD6F4B<---