From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 6 22:00:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: chat@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ECD316A41F for ; Sun, 6 Nov 2005 22:00:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@eucla.lemis.com) Received: from eucla.lemis.com (eucla.lemis.com [192.109.197.145]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 323C643D48 for ; Sun, 6 Nov 2005 22:00:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@eucla.lemis.com) Received: from eucla.lemis.com (localhost.lemis.com [127.0.0.1]) by eucla.lemis.com (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jA6M0Q0F064219 for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 08:30:26 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from grog@eucla.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by eucla.lemis.com (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id jA6M0Qhw064218 for chat@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 08:30:26 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 08:30:25 +1030 From: "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" To: chat@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20051106220025.GB63007@eucla.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: Subject: In Athens this week X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 22:00:43 -0000 I'll be in Athens for a company meeting from tomorrow (Tuesday 8 November) until Sunday, 13 November. I'll be pretty busy, but Saturday might be quieter. If anybody wants to get together, please let me know. I'll be staying at the Divani Caravel Hotel, phone 210 7207000, but I should be on the net most of the time. In case of emergency, you should also be able to get me on my mobile phone, +61-418-838-708. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 7 00:34:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: chat@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 920B116A41F for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 00:34:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from S1.cableone.net (s1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08E0343D48 for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 00:34:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from vixen42.vulpes (unverified [24.119.122.41]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 36422392 for ; Sun, 06 Nov 2005 17:34:37 -0700 Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 18:39:29 -0600 From: Vulpes Velox To: chat@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20051106183929.2cc9dc49@vixen42.vulpes> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.15 (GTK+ 2.6.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-NotAscii: charset=us-ascii X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 171, in=285, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.119.122.41 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Cc: Subject: user groups and ect X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 00:34:16 -0000 Any one know of any user groups or the like in south east Kansas or north east Oklahoma? From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 7 06:38:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C34E516A41F for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 06:38:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from minimarmot@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B1AC43D45 for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 06:38:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from minimarmot@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id t14so342533wxc for ; Sun, 06 Nov 2005 22:38:43 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=bvOsui7lDH4/vM8Vx36jB2jJwaFYVJ6Dmp30mqGRxQC33/u0Xsl/TiW0qG26EXryLgDRAe8a2HM1T5ye2gCPtMrcxa+pVo6VQ77hr4iD6QfejdkGc9MnmfxDOt6jp7hHGo8mT6BXoFVl1sQBRScCFUiU10lRr0NOTCClEuv8ngg= Received: by 10.70.6.2 with SMTP id 2mr4596099wxf; Sun, 06 Nov 2005 20:52:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.9.2 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Nov 2005 20:52:10 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <47d0403c0511062052j5caecf3fj5cb5f0aa5af7693c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 22:52:10 -0600 From: Ben Kaduk To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: is darwin powered by freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 06:38:44 -0000 Hi all, I have recently purchased a mac iBook, which is a lot more portable than th= e behemoth of a laptop that I previously used (which runs freebsd), and I have a lot of "powered b= y FreeBSD" stickers lying around. I know that the darwin part of os X is based on FreeBSD, but is it close enough to justify putting "powered by FreeBSD" stickers on it? What do you all think? Ben Kaduk From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 7 07:10:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F08D416A41F for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 07:10:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: from smtpgate2.pacific.net.sg (smtpgate2.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E21BC43D45 for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 07:10:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 20556 invoked from network); 7 Nov 2005 07:10:27 -0000 Received: from maxwell2.pacific.net.sg (203.120.90.192) by smtpgate2.pacific.net.sg with SMTP; 7 Nov 2005 07:10:26 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.107] ([210.24.246.23]) by maxwell2.pacific.net.sg with ESMTP id <20051107071026.SMBW28012.maxwell2.pacific.net.sg@[192.168.0.107]>; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 15:10:26 +0800 Message-ID: <436EFDBD.9060303@pacific.net.sg> Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 15:09:49 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky Organization: oceanare pte ltd User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051008) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ben Kaduk References: <47d0403c0511062052j5caecf3fj5cb5f0aa5af7693c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <47d0403c0511062052j5caecf3fj5cb5f0aa5af7693c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: is darwin powered by freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 07:10:32 -0000 Hi, Ben Kaduk wrote: > Hi all, > > I have recently purchased a mac iBook, which is a lot more portable than the > behemoth of a laptop > that I previously used (which runs freebsd), and I have a lot of "powered by > FreeBSD" stickers > lying around. I know that the darwin part of os X is based on FreeBSD, but > is it close enough > to justify putting "powered by FreeBSD" stickers on it? What do you all > think? do you expect the authorities to check your stickers? How many machines are running FreeBSD with a sticker on the box saying "Designed for Windows ...". Erich From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 7 14:28:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B979816A41F for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 14:28:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from phil.brennan@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C74543D45 for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 14:28:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from phil.brennan@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id t14so420550wxc for ; Mon, 07 Nov 2005 06:28:23 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=NVtbwqZSkUzG/ghP0i+luFcDMi0kTJ6ptzqGEFPmpoYYY6tgTbFyRhbYpeD4tNLkiZMByQCo21jk4dljk5rXqy+nshrAPcCFWEXIRZE1rg2ONCghWNAnGzchsfSOGpbUNrMHvBGifGZzgjGRr5e2FfSU0BWe2vcM8Ah1J22wDDA= Received: by 10.70.9.5 with SMTP id 5mr5014977wxi; Mon, 07 Nov 2005 06:28:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.79.20 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 06:28:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 14:28:23 +0000 From: Phil Brennan To: Ben Kaduk In-Reply-To: <47d0403c0511062052j5caecf3fj5cb5f0aa5af7693c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <47d0403c0511062052j5caecf3fj5cb5f0aa5af7693c@mail.gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: is darwin powered by freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 14:28:24 -0000 You can run freebsd on an ibook, so why not do that? Unless you are only concerned with appearances... On 11/7/05, Ben Kaduk wrote: > Hi all, > > I have recently purchased a mac iBook, which is a lot more portable than = the > behemoth of a laptop > that I previously used (which runs freebsd), and I have a lot of "powered= by > FreeBSD" stickers > lying around. I know that the darwin part of os X is based on FreeBSD, bu= t > is it close enough > to justify putting "powered by FreeBSD" stickers on it? What do you all > think? > > Ben Kaduk > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 7 14:42:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3069216A41F for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 14:42:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from phummers@iname.com) Received: from pop-gadwall.atl.sa.earthlink.net (pop-gadwall.atl.sa.earthlink.net [207.69.195.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEBB243D45 for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 14:42:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from phummers@iname.com) Received: from nc-67-77-248-18.dyn.sprint-hsd.net ([67.77.248.18] helo=[192.168.1.3]) by pop-gadwall.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #10) id 1EZ8CT-0005Yl-00 for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2005 09:42:22 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <47d0403c0511062052j5caecf3fj5cb5f0aa5af7693c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 09:42:18 -0500 To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org From: Peter Hummers Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Subject: Re: is darwin powered by freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 14:42:23 -0000 >You can run freebsd on an ibook, so why not do that? Unless you are >only concerned with appearances... > >On 11/7/05, Ben Kaduk wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I have recently purchased a mac iBook, which is a lot more portable than the >> behemoth of a laptop >> that I previously used (which runs freebsd), and I have a lot of "powered by >> FreeBSD" stickers >> lying around. I know that the darwin part of os X is based on FreeBSD, but >> is it close enough >> to justify putting "powered by FreeBSD" stickers on it? What do you all >> think? >> > > Ben Kaduk Amen (to that top-post)! (Posted from OS X, but I'm at work) -- ~Peter Hummers == WHAT'S SHAKIN' ON THE OUTER BANKS? Peter Hummers of http://www.obsentinel.com covers entertainment events on, and about, the Outer Banks of North Carolina at OUTER BANKS ONSTAGE http://obxonstage.blogspot.com From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 7 23:31:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25A1416A41F for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 23:31:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from beyert@cs.ucr.edu) Received: from sentinel.ucr.edu (sentinel.ucr.edu [138.23.226.228]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DACCC43D45 for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 23:31:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from beyert@cs.ucr.edu) Received: from aeonserv.aeonnet (66-215-246-57.dhcp.rvsd.ca.charter.com [66.215.246.57]) by sentinel.ucr.edu (MOS 3.5.9-GR) with ESMTP id DMA02752 (AUTH tbeye001); Mon, 7 Nov 2005 15:31:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 15:32:28 -0800 Message-ID: <877jbkyqyb.wl%beyert@cs.ucr.edu> From: Timothy Beyer To: Ben Kaduk In-Reply-To: <47d0403c0511062052j5caecf3fj5cb5f0aa5af7693c@mail.gmail.com> References: <47d0403c0511062052j5caecf3fj5cb5f0aa5af7693c@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.14.0 (Africa) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.7 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Sanj=F2?=) APEL/10.6 MULE XEmacs/21.5 (beta23) (daikon) (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Junkmail-Status: score=17/65, host=sentinel.ucr.edu Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: is darwin powered by freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 23:31:59 -0000 At Sun, 6 Nov 2005 22:52:10 -0600, Ben Kaduk wrote: > lying around. I know that the darwin part of os X is based on FreeBSD, but > is it close enough > to justify putting "powered by FreeBSD" stickers on it? What do you all > think? > > Ben Kaduk Depends, but I think it's a grey area, but I think that "powered by *BSD" rather than "FreeBSD" would be more accurate. The kernel isn't the FreeBSD kernel. It's darwin. The userland is mostly the same as FreeBSD, with some GNU tools and some tools from other BSDs. (I think) I guess it is BSD in the sense that GNU/Linux is GNU. --Tim