From owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 12 17:57:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0C3A16A41F for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 17:57:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john@1100tech.com) Received: from ubermail.jupiterhosting.com (ubermail.jupiterhosting.com [64.255.160.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A2C943D49 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 17:57:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john@1100tech.com) Received: (qmail 37928 invoked by uid 89); 12 Sep 2005 17:57:37 -0000 Message-ID: <20050912175737.37927.qmail@ubermail.jupiterhosting.com> From: "john" To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 10:57:37 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: UFS2 and =?utf-8?b?RnJlZUJTROKAmXM=?= apparent 2 terabyte logical volume limit X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 17:57:36 -0000 Good afternoon =09I seem to have run into a problem with UFS2/gvinum/FreeBSD 5.4/various= disk utilities =E2=80=93 try as I might I can=E2=80=99t create anything larger= than 2 terabytes. I think I must be missing something, because I have a hard time believing= FreeBSD still has this limit after going through and fixing the 1 terabyt= e limit with UFS1. Large disks are getting very cheap putting 2 TB in a lo= t of people=E2=80=99s hands, so if this hasn=E2=80=99t been fixed until now= , does anyone know of a timetable for when it will be fixed? Is anyone actively working= on this project? I=E2=80=99d really rather not use Linux, but at least it s= upports 2+ TB easily. What am I doing wrong or what=E2=80=99s the secret? ~John From owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 12 18:41:10 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEED316A41F for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 18:41:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3754643D4C for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 18:41:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j8CIf6KM006991; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 11:41:06 -0700 Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0/Submit) id j8CIf64Q006990; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 11:41:06 -0700 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 11:41:06 -0700 From: Brooks Davis To: john Message-ID: <20050912184106.GB24946@odin.ac.hmc.edu> References: <20050912175737.37927.qmail@ubermail.jupiterhosting.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="yNb1oOkm5a9FJOVX" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050912175737.37927.qmail@ubermail.jupiterhosting.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=8.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on odin.ac.hmc.edu Cc: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UFS2 and FreeBSD???s apparent 2 terabyte logical volume limit X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 18:41:10 -0000 --yNb1oOkm5a9FJOVX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Sep 12, 2005 at 10:57:37AM -0700, john wrote: > Good afternoon > I seem to have run into a problem with UFS2/gvinum/FreeBSD=20 > 5.4/various disk utilities ??? try as I might I can???t create anything= =20 > larger than 2 terabytes.=20 >=20 > I think I must be missing something, because I have a hard time believing= =20 > FreeBSD still has this limit after going through and fixing the 1 terabyt= e=20 > limit with UFS1. Large disks are getting very cheap putting 2 TB in a lo= t=20 > of people???s hands, so if this hasn???t been fixed until now, does anyon= e=20 > know of a timetable for when it will be fixed? Is anyone actively working= =20 > on this project? I???d really rather not use Linux, but at least it=20 > supports 2+ TB easily. What am I doing wrong or what???s the secret?=20 I can't tell what you are missing since you haven't said anything about what you've done. newfs will work fine, however you need to use something other than MS-DOS MBR partition tables or bsdlabels if you wish to partition the disk. GPT should work. According the the status page, snapshots are broken so background fsck apparently isn't an option. The somewhat outdated status page is here: http://www.freebsd.org/projects/bigdisk/ -- Brooks --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --yNb1oOkm5a9FJOVX Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDJcpMXY6L6fI4GtQRArOAAJ40tWNo8CmpE6r6I8V63IPVuD+VSgCeNXsY MjS6WaRt7HKEmAAAt6+h/io= =d02J -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --yNb1oOkm5a9FJOVX-- From owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 12 19:10:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC14216A41F for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 19:10:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from mh1.centtech.com (moat3.centtech.com [207.200.51.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2800A43D49 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 19:10:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from [192.168.42.23] (andersonbox3.centtech.com [192.168.42.23]) by mh1.centtech.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j8CJAh6m095512; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:10:43 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Message-ID: <4325D2B9.70903@centtech.com> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:10:49 -0500 From: Eric Anderson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.11) Gecko/20050904 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brooks Davis References: <20050912175737.37927.qmail@ubermail.jupiterhosting.com> <20050912184106.GB24946@odin.ac.hmc.edu> In-Reply-To: <20050912184106.GB24946@odin.ac.hmc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.82/1079/Mon Sep 12 04:23:50 2005 on mh1.centtech.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UFS2 and FreeBSD???s apparent 2 terabyte logical volume limit X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 19:10:49 -0000 Brooks Davis wrote: > On Mon, Sep 12, 2005 at 10:57:37AM -0700, john wrote: > >>Good afternoon >> I seem to have run into a problem with UFS2/gvinum/FreeBSD >> 5.4/various disk utilities ??? try as I might I can???t create anything >>larger than 2 terabytes. >> >>I think I must be missing something, because I have a hard time believing >>FreeBSD still has this limit after going through and fixing the 1 terabyte >>limit with UFS1. Large disks are getting very cheap putting 2 TB in a lot >>of people???s hands, so if this hasn???t been fixed until now, does anyone >>know of a timetable for when it will be fixed? Is anyone actively working >>on this project? I???d really rather not use Linux, but at least it >>supports 2+ TB easily. What am I doing wrong or what???s the secret? > > > I can't tell what you are missing since you haven't said anything about > what you've done. > > newfs will work fine, however you need to use something other than > MS-DOS MBR partition tables or bsdlabels if you wish to partition the > disk. GPT should work. According the the status page, snapshots are > broken so background fsck apparently isn't an option. The somewhat > outdated status page is here: > > http://www.freebsd.org/projects/bigdisk/ I messed with this a few months ago - I think the problem is the actual logical disk size. Anything over 2tb is either not seen by FreeBSD (I was using a fiber channel device config'ed to 6tb) or FreeBSD hangs detecting it. I posted about this when I hit the problem. If you use vinum to stripe the 2tb partitions, you can create a large partition (greater than 2tb) - I made a 12Tb partition with two arrays, and it worked ok, except for a few newfs bumps at the 10Tb mark (I believe). The only problem is, fsck requires too much memory at that size to be useful (a fullish 2Tb partition takes several Gb memory as it is). Once UFSJ is complete, it will make this a lot more feasible. Eric -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Eric Anderson Sr. Systems Administrator Centaur Technology Anything that works is better than anything that doesn't. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 14 02:49:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D1F516A41F; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 02:49:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from takawata@init-main.com) Received: from ns.init-main.com (104.194.138.210.bn.2iij.net [210.138.194.104]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70AA643D45; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 02:48:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from takawata@init-main.com) Received: from init-main.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ns.init-main.com (8.13.3/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j8E2hXPY049090; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 11:43:34 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from takawata@init-main.com) Message-Id: <200509140243.j8E2hXPY049090@ns.init-main.com> To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-fs@freebsd.org From: takawata@jp.freebsd.org Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 11:43:33 +0900 Sender: takawata@init-main.com Cc: Subject: devfs file name NLS encoding? X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 02:49:05 -0000 Hi, as you know, we can create arbitaly file name on devfs. But for now, all file names on a devfs are encoded in ASCII. If we want to put Japanese file names in devfs, how should it be encoded? UTF-8 or something convinient for the source encoding? From owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 14 05:11:54 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E55D16A41F; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 05:11:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from phk@phk.freebsd.dk) Received: from pasmtp.tele.dk (pasmtp.tele.dk [193.162.159.95]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 217E643D45; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 05:11:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from phk@phk.freebsd.dk) Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (0x535c0e2a.sgnxx1.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk [83.92.14.42]) by pasmtp.tele.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CBCD1EC312; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 07:11:50 +0200 (CEST) To: takawata@jp.freebsd.org From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 14 Sep 2005 11:43:33 +0900." <200509140243.j8E2hXPY049090@ns.init-main.com> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 07:11:44 +0200 Message-ID: <19961.1126674704@phk.freebsd.dk> Sender: phk@phk.freebsd.dk Cc: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: devfs file name NLS encoding? X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 05:11:54 -0000 In message <200509140243.j8E2hXPY049090@ns.init-main.com>, takawata@jp.freebsd. org writes: >Hi, as you know, we can create arbitaly file name on devfs. >But for now, all file names on a devfs are encoded in ASCII. > >If we want to put Japanese file names in devfs, how should it >be encoded? UTF-8 or something convinient for the source encoding? All filenames in DEVFS are either created from the device driver 'C' source (as a string literal via sprintf mostly) or from userland as symlink. So whatever works. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.