From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 18:14:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE86616A4CE; Sun, 3 Apr 2005 18:14:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nagual.pp.ru (pobrecita.freebsd.ru [194.87.13.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83C9943D45; Sun, 3 Apr 2005 18:14:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: from nagual.pp.ru (ache@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nagual.pp.ru (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j33IEsF0038398; Sun, 3 Apr 2005 22:14:55 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j33IEsUq038397; Sun, 3 Apr 2005 22:14:54 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 22:14:53 +0400 From: Andrey Chernov To: current@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050403181452.GA38264@nagual.pp.ru> Mail-Followup-To: Andrey Chernov , current@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-AntiVirus: checked by AntiVir Milter (version: 1.1.0-3; AVE: 6.30.0.7; VDF: 6.30.0.61; host: nagual.pp.ru) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.6 (nagual.pp.ru [0.0.0.0]); Sun, 03 Apr 2005 22:14:55 +0400 (MSD) cc: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Marvell Yukon driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2005 18:14:57 -0000 Hi. Does anybody know, is "Marvell Yukon 88E8053 PCI-E Gigabit LAN" supported by some of -current ethernet drivers or not? If not, is it just matter of detection (i.e. new PCI ID can be added to some existen driver) or whole driver must ve written from scratch? (This is popular controller embedded to many ASUS boards like P5GD2) Thanx in advance. -- http://ache.pp.ru/ From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 18:35:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60DD116A4CE; Sun, 3 Apr 2005 18:35:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from transport.cksoft.de (transport.cksoft.de [62.111.66.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B62243D39; Sun, 3 Apr 2005 18:35:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net) Received: from transport.cksoft.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by transport.cksoft.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C21961FFACD; Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:35:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: by transport.cksoft.de (Postfix, from userid 66) id A42CF1FF9AB; Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:35:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail.int.zabbadoz.net (Postfix, from userid 1060) id E208D15384; Sun, 3 Apr 2005 18:30:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.int.zabbadoz.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFB8615329; Sun, 3 Apr 2005 18:30:56 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 18:30:56 +0000 (UTC) From: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" X-X-Sender: bz@e0-0.zab2.int.zabbadoz.net To: Andrey Chernov In-Reply-To: <20050403181452.GA38264@nagual.pp.ru> Message-ID: References: <20050403181452.GA38264@nagual.pp.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS cksoft-s20020300-20031204bz on transport.cksoft.de cc: FreeBSD current mailing list cc: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Marvell Yukon driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2005 18:35:09 -0000 On Sun, 3 Apr 2005, Andrey Chernov wrote: Hi, > Does anybody know, is "Marvell Yukon 88E8053 PCI-E Gigabit LAN" supported > by some of -current ethernet drivers or not? If not, is it just matter of > detection (i.e. new PCI ID can be added to some existen driver) or whole > driver must ve written from scratch? (This is popular controller embedded > to many ASUS boards like P5GD2) The short answer: won't work. More information can be found on * http://sources.zabbadoz.net/freebsd/if_sk.html * http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2005-January/thread.html#71195 -- Bjoern A. Zeeb bzeeb at Zabbadoz dot NeT From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 4 00:08:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8682D16A4D3 for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 00:08:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp3.adl2.internode.on.net (smtp3.adl2.internode.on.net [203.16.214.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53C2C43D1D for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 00:08:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Shane@007Marketing.com) Received: from [192.168.8.50] (ppp19-170.static.internode.on.net [150.101.19.170])j3408Sde043071; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 09:38:41 +0930 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 09:38:21 +1030 From: Shane Ambler To: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" , FreeBSD Mailing Lists Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Marvell Yukon driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 00:08:51 -0000 I am another ASUS fan interested in Marvell gigabit support. There are 3 ASUS boards of the s775 variety that still have realtek 10/100 ethernet the rest have marvell gigabit. I am about to put together an ASUS P5P800 board for myself that has PCI with the PCI 88E8001 gigabit controller and would like to use the onboard controller. After the P5P800 variants of the ASUS boards the PCIe 88E8053 controller is used in single or dual config. One dual board has one PCIe 88E8053 and one PCI 88E8001 - go figure that. Is the support issue related to PCIe or only lack of info from Marvell? I can provide SSH access for testing the PCI 88E8001 if needed. On 4/4/2005 5:00, "Bjoern A. Zeeb" wrote: > On Sun, 3 Apr 2005, Andrey Chernov wrote: > > Hi, > >> Does anybody know, is "Marvell Yukon 88E8053 PCI-E Gigabit LAN" supported >> by some of -current ethernet drivers or not? If not, is it just matter of >> detection (i.e. new PCI ID can be added to some existen driver) or whole >> driver must ve written from scratch? (This is popular controller embedded >> to many ASUS boards like P5GD2) > > The short answer: won't work. > > More information can be found on > * http://sources.zabbadoz.net/freebsd/if_sk.html > * > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2005-January/thread.html# > 71195 -- Shane Ambler Sales Department 007Marketing.com Shane@007Marketing.com From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 4 05:06:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 312A416A4CE; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 05:06:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lexi.siliconlandmark.com (lexi.siliconlandmark.com [209.69.98.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B46E643D41; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 05:06:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andy@siliconlandmark.com) Received: from lexi.siliconlandmark.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) j3456e3x026239; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 01:06:40 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from andy@siliconlandmark.com) Received: from localhost (andy@localhost)j3456eqM026236; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 01:06:40 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from andy@siliconlandmark.com) X-Authentication-Warning: lexi.siliconlandmark.com: andy owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 01:06:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Andre Guibert de Bruet To: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050404005914.I10428@lexi.siliconlandmark.com> References: <20050403181452.GA38264@nagual.pp.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-SL-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-SL-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-2.492, required 6, autolearn=not spam, AWL 0.11, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-MailScanner-From: andy@siliconlandmark.com cc: Andrey Chernov cc: FreeBSD current mailing list cc: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Marvell Yukon driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 05:06:44 -0000 On Sun, 3 Apr 2005, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: > On Sun, 3 Apr 2005, Andrey Chernov wrote: > >> Does anybody know, is "Marvell Yukon 88E8053 PCI-E Gigabit LAN" supported >> by some of -current ethernet drivers or not? If not, is it just matter of >> detection (i.e. new PCI ID can be added to some existen driver) or whole >> driver must ve written from scratch? (This is popular controller embedded >> to many ASUS boards like P5GD2) > > The short answer: won't work. > > More information can be found on > * http://sources.zabbadoz.net/freebsd/if_sk.html > * http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2005-January/thread.html#71195 Bjoern, May I suggest that you have a look at what the official drivers from Marvell do in their linux 2.6 source package which can be found at http://www.marvell.com/drivers/upload/install-8_13.tar.bz2 I happen to have such a Yukon card in two of my personal dual Xeons (bling & lexi) that I would love to get working. I am really in a timecrunch period at work. If I wasn't I would be hacking away at this right now... Thanks, Andy | Andre Guibert de Bruet | Enterprise Software Consultant > | Silicon Landmark, LLC. | http://siliconlandmark.com/ > From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 4 12:06:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A13216A4CE for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 12:06:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail01.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net (mail01.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net [159.134.118.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0EA6A43D54 for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 12:06:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from feargal@fbi.ie) Received: (qmail 84180 messnum 7070732 invoked from network[82.141.233.46/unknown]); 4 Apr 2005 12:06:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO alatar.edhellond.fbi.ie) (82.141.233.46) by mail01.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net (qp 84180) with SMTP; 4 Apr 2005 12:06:16 -0000 Received: from anborn.edhellond.fbi.ie (anborn.edhellond.fbi.ie [192.168.0.11])j34C6EoJ055932 for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:06:15 +0100 (IST) (envelope-from feargal@fbi.ie) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:06:14 +0100 From: Feargal Reilly To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20050404130614.3e85cab0@anborn.edhellond.fbi.ie> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: FBI X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.10) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Marvell Yukon driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 12:06:18 -0000 On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 09:38:21 +1030 Shane Ambler wrote: > I am another ASUS fan interested in Marvell gigabit support. > Not an ASUS user, but an Intel user, and I've been hit by this card too. We recently purchased a dual-Xeon box with an Intel SE7320VP2 motherboard and onboard dual gigabit. I'd believed that the NICs were both Intel 82547 cards, which are supported by em(4). It turns out that only the first NIC is, the second is a Marvell 88E8050. > Is the support issue related to PCIe or only lack of info from > Marvell? We've contacted > I can provide SSH access for testing the PCI 88E8001 if needed. > > > On 4/4/2005 5:00, "Bjoern A. Zeeb" > wrote: > > > On Sun, 3 Apr 2005, Andrey Chernov wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > >> Does anybody know, is "Marvell Yukon 88E8053 PCI-E Gigabit > >LAN" supported> by some of -current ethernet drivers or not? > >If not, is it just matter of> detection (i.e. new PCI ID can > >be added to some existen driver) or whole> driver must ve > >written from scratch? (This is popular controller embedded> to > >many ASUS boards like P5GD2) > > > > The short answer: won't work. > > > > More information can be found on > > * http://sources.zabbadoz.net/freebsd/if_sk.html > > * > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2005-January/thread.html# > > 71195 > > -- > > Shane Ambler > Sales Department > 007Marketing.com > Shane@007Marketing.com > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 4 12:46:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11B1616A4CE for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 12:46:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail06.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net (mail06.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net [159.134.118.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2CACD43D39 for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 12:46:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from feargal@fbi.ie) Received: (qmail 86851 messnum 2894638 invoked from network[82.141.233.46/unknown]); 4 Apr 2005 12:46:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO alatar.edhellond.fbi.ie) (82.141.233.46) by mail06.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net (qp 86851) with SMTP; 4 Apr 2005 12:46:02 -0000 Received: from anborn.edhellond.fbi.ie (anborn.edhellond.fbi.ie [192.168.0.11])j34Ck1h1056279 for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:46:02 +0100 (IST) (envelope-from feargal@fbi.ie) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:46:01 +0100 From: Feargal Reilly To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20050404134601.5a0e1323@anborn.edhellond.fbi.ie> In-Reply-To: <20050404130614.3e85cab0@anborn.edhellond.fbi.ie> References: <20050404130614.3e85cab0@anborn.edhellond.fbi.ie> Organization: FBI X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.10) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Marvell Yukon driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 12:46:05 -0000 > > Is the support issue related to PCIe or only lack of info > > from Marvell? > > We've contacted > > > I can provide SSH access for testing the PCI 88E8001 if > > needed. Eurgh, the joys of Ctrl+Enter in the wrong window... I was saying, I've contacted Syskonnect regarding their binary drivers. They are currently developing a new driver which will support the 88E8 family, I'm told a beta should be rolling towards the end of the month, and that this should work with 5.3 and 5.4 when it comes to the release. Regarding documentation, I believe they take the usual manufacturer policy of not disclosing anything, for fear of, I dunno, the middle-management bogeyman or something. Sigh. -fr. -- Feargal Reilly, Chief Techie, FBI. PGP Key ID: 0x29895554 HAS BEEN STOLEN | Web: http://www.fbi.ie/ Tel: +353.14988588 | Fax: +353.14988489 Communications House, 11 Sallymount Avenue, Ranelagh, Dublin 6. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 5 01:51:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E0EF16A4CE for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 01:51:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web52510.mail.yahoo.com (web52510.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.39.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6B2C943D1D for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 01:51:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from yseenu@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 94436 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Apr 2005 01:51:53 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=dmGZB3DHNkPmmq8baqeFMaT3D1YCt0+h0dS3PkaruZ6Joyod5AiBPW2wkw8d029IyYwJxVDD0uQV3A1mHzUbj8NUk52n9cLFukIpCYF4y0YjL7kGo4ilGd4g2c299BCrq0aDoEpPFCQ4j+tKV34kybCVtaQ1FR2Pv1QYQmWkwPY= ; Message-ID: <20050405015152.94434.qmail@web52510.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [69.111.163.94] by web52510.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 18:51:52 PDT Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 18:51:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Srinivasa R Yarrakonda To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Probing Devices X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 01:51:54 -0000 Hi, I am trying to install FreeBSD on the second hard disk of my windows PC. I have burned the 5.3-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso onto a CD. When I restart the computer it reads the boot CDROM and then reports "Probing Device (This will take a while)". The sysinstall menu shows up but my keyboard doesn't work with this menu. I think it hangs. Whats wrong..any suggestions/advice is helpful.. Thanks, Srini __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 5 03:27:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4D5916A4CE for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 03:27:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp3.adl2.internode.on.net (smtp3.adl2.internode.on.net [203.16.214.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66B9E43D39 for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 03:27:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Shane@007Marketing.com) Received: from [192.168.8.50] (ppp19-170.static.internode.on.net [150.101.19.170])j353RT8g098735; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 12:57:30 +0930 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 12:57:23 +0930 From: Shane Ambler To: Srinivasa R Yarrakonda , FreeBSD Mailing Lists Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20050405015152.94434.qmail@web52510.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Probing Devices X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 03:27:39 -0000 Sounds like you are using a usb keyboard If so after starting from the cd you come to a menu with the deamon logo select 6. escape to loader prompt Type in - set hint.atkbd.0.flags="1" boot On 5/4/05 11:21 AM, "Srinivasa R Yarrakonda" wrote: > Hi, > > I am trying to install FreeBSD on the second hard disk > of my windows PC. I have burned the > 5.3-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso onto a CD. > When I restart the computer it reads the boot CDROM > and then reports "Probing Device (This will take a > while)". The sysinstall menu shows up but my keyboard > doesn't work with this menu. I think it hangs. > Whats wrong..any suggestions/advice is helpful.. > > > Thanks, > Srini > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. > http://personals.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Shane Ambler Sales Department 007Marketing.com Shane@007Marketing.com From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 6 02:20:35 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B186616A4CE for ; Wed, 6 Apr 2005 02:20:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hkuhp12.hku.hk (hkuhp12.hku.hk [147.8.2.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10EF143D31 for ; Wed, 6 Apr 2005 02:20:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leonardo@mcomo.com) Received: from v505 ([147.8.108.243]) by hkuhp12.hku.hk (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j362KPYi028261 for ; Wed, 6 Apr 2005 10:20:26 +0800 (EAT) From: "Leonardo" To: Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 10:20:20 +0800 Message-ID: <000a01c53a4f$322378a0$f36c0893@v505> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal X-MailScanner: 0 X-MailScanner-From: leonardo@mcomo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: SATA Raid support problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 02:20:35 -0000 I am using a HP ML110, there are a Promise FastTrack S150 SX4-M. When I install the FreeBSD 5.3, I find that the FreeBSD cannot recognize this SATA Raid card. What can I do for troubleshoot. Card detail: Link to Promise http://www.promise.com/product/product_detail_eng.asp?segment=RAID%20HBA s &product_id=124 Leonardo From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 6 03:43:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77A3A16A4CE for ; Wed, 6 Apr 2005 03:43:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp4.ixpres.com (smtp4.ixpres.com [216.240.160.51]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FE2643D53 for ; Wed, 6 Apr 2005 03:43:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@ixpres.com) Received: from webmail.ixpres.com (webmail.ixpres.com [216.240.160.200]) by smtp4.ixpres.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id j363pFP21418 for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 20:51:15 -0700 Received: from 64.58.171.91 (SquirrelMail authenticated user vizion@ixpres.com) by webmail.ixpres.com with HTTP; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 20:46:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2172.64.58.171.91.1112759176.squirrel@webmail.ixpres.com> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 20:46:16 -0700 (PDT) From: vizion@ixpres.com To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Subject: HP Rugged Tablet TR3000 (Also GoBook) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 03:43:19 -0000 Hi I originally posted this to freebsd-mobile but also felt this list might also be appropriate. Here is the text of the original posting..comments appreciated: ------------------------------------------------------------------- Has anyone successfully installed freebsd on this system and been able to use it as a Tablet without a USB keyboard? The serial Pen Tablet is Wacom on Intel(R) 82801CAM LPC Interface controller using (under win XP an I/O Range 03F8-03FF on IRQ 04. The rotate driver uses the same controller on an I/O range 0180-0183 The Human Interface Devbice is Wacom The mouse HID also runs on Wacom Any information would be welcome David Southwell English Owner & Captain of British Registered 60' bluewater Ketch S/V Taurus. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 7 11:12:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71EC116A4CE for ; Thu, 7 Apr 2005 11:12:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bgo1smout1.broadpark.no (bgo1smout1.broadpark.no [217.13.4.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C3C443D53 for ; Thu, 7 Apr 2005 11:12:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from bgo1sminn1.broadpark.no ([217.13.4.93]) by bgo1smout1.broadpark.no (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.05 (built Oct 21 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IEK008Q7PJQIHB0@bgo1smout1.broadpark.no> for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 13:07:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dsa.des.no ([80.203.228.37]) by bgo1sminn1.broadpark.no (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.05 (built Oct 21 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IEK001MOPVCQ280@bgo1sminn1.broadpark.no> for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 13:14:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: by dsa.des.no (Pony Express, from userid 666) id AEFBBEBC15; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 13:12:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from xps.des.no (xps.des.no [10.0.0.12]) by dsa.des.no (Pony Express) with ESMTP id 1B111EBC08; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 13:12:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: by xps.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 038CB33C5A; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 13:12:32 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 13:12:31 +0200 From: des@des.no (=?iso-8859-1?q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?=) In-reply-to: <000a01c53a4f$322378a0$f36c0893@v505> To: Leonardo Message-id: <86zmwaden4.fsf@xps.des.no> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on dsa.des.no References: <000a01c53a4f$322378a0$f36c0893@v505> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110002 (No Gnus v0.2) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL autolearn=disabled version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Level: cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SATA Raid support problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 11:12:39 -0000 "Leonardo" writes: > I am using a HP ML110, there are a Promise FastTrack S150 SX4-M. When I > install the FreeBSD 5.3, I find that the FreeBSD cannot recognize this > SATA Raid card. What can I do for troubleshoot. The S150SX4 is not supported in 5.3. There is limited support in -CURRENT. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav - des@des.no From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 7 21:43:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FF6116A4CE for ; Thu, 7 Apr 2005 21:43:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 845AD43D1F for ; Thu, 7 Apr 2005 21:43:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lovitt@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 37so851301wra for ; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 14:43:18 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=DXVi9yIMw3HfIMynBs61nPUXLKZDyyKonWOmZ0W2DFTXyzFjrxJdOiY1cdPg+3fe5j2C1un2ajPZluGauo9V3kvob1HnrFHU/9c/KUdJw8T43SpO/OSLfLGt1inC1+z8/OLvTbaZh5UbIvpRmzW8ako6u6UylABBmFk6F0eIBAo= Received: by 10.54.2.60 with SMTP id 60mr139659wrb; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 14:43:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.3.79 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Apr 2005 14:43:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 16:43:18 -0500 From: Michael Lovitt To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Dell Optiplex GX280? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Michael Lovitt List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 21:43:19 -0000 Any success installing FreeBSD 5.3 on a Dell Optiplex GX280? What worries me specifically: * Intel 915G Express Chipset * Integrated Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 900 (GMA900) * SATA Hard Drive Michael From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 8 06:39:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A92416A4CE; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 06:39:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from daumantas.is.lt (daumantas.is.lt [193.219.14.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5533643D41; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 06:39:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Edvardas@togilas.lt) Received: from yranga ([193.219.14.222]) by daumantas.is.lt (8.13.1/8.13.1) with SMTP id j386c0u1093588; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 09:38:07 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from Edvardas@togilas.lt) From: "Edvardas Butrimas" To: , , , Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 09:39:43 +0300 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Scanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-Scanner: Found to be clean X-Scanner-From: edvardas@togilas.lt Subject: SE7520BD2SCSI mainboard not suported hardware ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 06:39:49 -0000 Hi, Sorry for my english I have problem with Intel® Server Board SE7520BD2SCSI. http://www.intel.com/design/servers/boards/se7520bd2/index.htm Two Ultra320/LVD channels via the LSI Logic 53C1030 SCSI controller and connected via two internal 68-pin-wide connectors; maximum data transfer 320 MB/sec on each Ultra320/LVD controller, supporting RAID 0 and 1, and support for modular ROMB (Intel RAID Controller SRCZCRX) SCSI disks works terribly. They copy 3mb/s. Does the disks are in RAID or single they works terribly. I try other SCSI controler on PCI, but the problem the same. I try different OS, like freebsd i386 4.11, 5.3, amd64 5.3(it suports E7520 chipset), NetBSD 2.0, only windows 2003 works fine. Intel mainboard CD have drivers for Windows, UnixWare, SUSE, Red Hat, NetWare. Do you have any suggestions? any ideas ? Here is server SE7520BD2SCSI INTEL (BRANDON SCSI) SERVER BOARD OEM BX80546KG3000EA INTEL XEON 3.0GHZ 800FSB 1M BOX, ACTIVE KVR333X72RC25/512 512MB 333MHZ DDR ECC REGISTERED CL2.5 DIMM ST373207LW SEAGATE CHEETAH 10K.7 73GB U320SCA 68-PIN SC5275E INTEL SERVER CHASSIS SC5275E dmesg: Copyright (c) 1992-2004 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.3-RC1 #0: Sun Oct 17 01:25:37 UTC 2004 root@wv1u.samsco.home:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC ACPI APIC Table: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.00GHz (2992.51-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf41 Stepping = 1 Features=0xbfebfbff Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs real memory = 1073610752 (1023 MB) avail memory = 1041047552 (992 MB) FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 6 cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 7 ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard ioapic1 irqs 24-47 on motherboard ioapic2 irqs 48-71 on motherboard npx0: [FAST] npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x408-0x40b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 cpu1: on acpi0 cpu2: on acpi0 cpu3: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pci0: at device 0.1 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 1.0 (no driver attached) pcib1: irq 16 at device 2.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pcib2: at device 0.0 on pci1 pci2: on pcib2 mpt0: port 0xc400-0xc4ff mem 0xfceb0000-0xfcebffff,0xfcec0000-0xfcecffff irq 26 at device 5.0 o n pci2 mpt0: [GIANT-LOCKED] mpt1: port 0xc800-0xc8ff mem 0xfcee0000-0xfceeffff,0xfcef0000-0xfcefffff irq 25 at device 5.1 o n pci2 mpt1: [GIANT-LOCKED] pci1: at device 0.1 (no driver attached) pcib3: at device 0.2 on pci1 pci3: on pcib3 pci1: at device 0.3 (no driver attached) pcib4: irq 16 at device 4.0 on pci0 pci4: on pcib4 pcib5: irq 16 at device 5.0 on pci0 pcib5: could not get PCI interrupt routing table for \\_SB_.PCI0.EPB1 - AE_NOT_FOUND pci5: on pcib5 pci5: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) pcib6: irq 16 at device 6.0 on pci0 pci6: on pcib6 pcib7: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci7: on pcib7 em0: port 0xec00-0xec3f mem 0xfebe0000-0xfebfffff irq 16 at device 4. 0 on pci7 em0: Ethernet address: 00:0e:0c:4e:e3:f8 em0: Speed:N/A Duplex:N/A pci7: at device 12.0 (no driver attached) isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xfc00-0xfc0f,0x376,0x170-0x177,0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 31.1 on pci0 ata0: channel #0 on atapci0 ata1: channel #1 on atapci0 pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) acpi_button0: on acpi0 acpi_button1: on acpi0 atkbdc0: port 0x64,0x60 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: model MouseMan+, device ID 0 sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A fdc0: port 0x3f7,0x3f0-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: [FAST] orm0: at iomem 0xcf800-0xd07ff,0xce800-0xcf7ff,0xca800-0xce7ff,0xc0000-0xca7ff on isa0 pmtimer0 on isa0 ppc0: parallel port not found. sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec acpi_cpu: throttling enabled, 8 steps (100% to 12.5%), currently 100.0% acd0: CDROM at ata0-slave UDMA33 Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle da0 at mpt1 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 320.000MB/s transfers (160.000MHz, offset 63, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 139756MB (286220288 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 17816C) SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #3 Launched! Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0s1a From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 8 09:20:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 240B716A4CE for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 09:20:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hkuhp12.hku.hk (hkuhp12.hku.hk [147.8.2.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E84F43D54 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 09:20:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leonardo@mcomo.com) Received: from v505 ([147.8.108.243]) by hkuhp12.hku.hk (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j389JsUS017387; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 17:19:55 +0800 (EAT) From: "Leonardo" To: "=?UTF-8?Q?'=22Dag-Erling_Sm=E9=B7=A8grav=22'?=" Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 17:19:52 +0800 Message-ID: <001501c53c1c$2269d840$f36c0893@v505> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal In-reply-to: <86zmwaden4.fsf@xps.des.no> X-MailScanner: 0 X-MailScanner-From: leonardo@mcomo.com cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: RE: SATA Raid support problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 09:20:14 -0000 -----Original Message----- From: "Dag-Erling Sm=E9=B7=A8grav" [mailto:des@des.no]=20 Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 7:13 PM To: Leonardo Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SATA Raid support problem "Leonardo" writes: > I am using a HP ML110, there are a Promise FastTrack S150 SX4-M. When = I > install the FreeBSD 5.3, I find that the FreeBSD cannot recognize this > SATA Raid card. What can I do for troubleshoot. The S150SX4 is not supported in 5.3. There is limited support in -CURRENT. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no Thx for ur support. That mean if I use the -current version, the problem will solved?? From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 8 09:29:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 695FF16A4CE for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 09:29:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from shellma.zin.lublin.pl (shellma.zin.lublin.pl [212.182.126.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71DCB43D53 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 09:29:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pawmal-posting@freebsd.lublin.pl) Received: by shellma.zin.lublin.pl (Postfix, from userid 1018) id 1E735347116; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 11:28:21 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 11:28:20 +0200 From: Pawel Malachowski To: Pawel Malachowski Message-ID: <20050408092820.GA80618@shellma.zin.lublin.pl> References: <20050318205028.GA45939@shellma.zin.lublin.pl> <20050318205635.GB45939@shellma.zin.lublin.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20050318205635.GB45939@shellma.zin.lublin.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bge(4) watchdog timeout with APIC 5.4-prerel setup with 64bit PCI cards X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 09:29:57 -0000 On Fri, Mar 18, 2005 at 09:56:35PM +0100, Pawel Malachowski wrote: > > Machine B: 5.4-PRERELEASE, GENERIC, IBM (x225?), dual Xeon, 64bit PCI. > > HTT disabled, ACPI disabled, GIANT LOCK. > > . bge0 on board BCM5703 > > . two 3Com bge{1,2} NICs BCM5701 (identical as in A, but in 64bit PCI slots) > > Cards connected to 100Mbps switch. > > This machine works just fine only when onboard bge0 NIC is being used. > > If I move vlans wih real traffic (only about 5-10Mbit/s) to bge1 or bge2, > > it will fail with watchdog timeout few times per day (sometimes few times > > per hour). > > > > Cables were replaced, switch was changed. > > SMP was disabled. > > System was updated from 5.3-RELEASE to latest RELENG_5. > > > > Nothing helps! > > > > I'm currently running UP GENERIC kernel with APIC disabled, seems to work > > fine (1 hour). > > Failed again... > > Mar 18 21:49:01 xxx kernel: bge2: watchdog timeout -- resetting > Mar 18 21:49:21 xxx last message repeated 2 times > > No idea, what else can I test? > > > bge1: mem 0xf1000000-0xf100ffff irq 11 at device 1.0 on pci4 > miibus1: on bge1 > brgphy1: on miibus1 > brgphy1: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseTX, 1000baseTX-FDX, auto > > bge2: mem 0xf1010000-0xf101ffff irq 11 at device 2.0 on pci4 > miibus2: on bge2 > brgphy2: on miibus2 > brgphy2: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseTX, 1000baseTX-FDX, auto FYI: removing one of these 3Com cards (leaving only one 64bit PCI card) didn't help. Since these cards work just fine as 32-bit PCI on another PC, I guess this may be hardware incompatibility (IBM x225 + 3Com on 64bit slot) or bge(4) is broken somehow. > This onboard card works without problems. > > bge0: mem 0xf2000000-0xf200ffff irq 11 at device 1.0 on pci3 > miibus0: on bge0 > brgphy0: on miibus0 > brgphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseTX, 1000baseTX-FDX, auto -- Pawe³ Ma³achowski From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 8 09:49:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 000A716A4CE for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 09:49:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bgo1smout1.broadpark.no (bgo1smout1.broadpark.no [217.13.4.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7127943D4C for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 09:49:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from bgo1sminn1.broadpark.no ([217.13.4.93]) by bgo1smout1.broadpark.no (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.05 (built Oct 21 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IEM0095QGDLZ4D0@bgo1smout1.broadpark.no> for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 11:44:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dsa.des.no ([80.203.228.37]) by bgo1sminn1.broadpark.no (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.05 (built Oct 21 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IEM005UPGP63AQ0@bgo1sminn1.broadpark.no> for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 11:51:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: by dsa.des.no (Pony Express, from userid 666) id 87131EBD4C; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 11:49:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from xps.des.no (xps.des.no [10.0.0.12]) by dsa.des.no (Pony Express) with ESMTP id D94BFEBC06; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 11:49:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: by xps.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id CA72B33C5A; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 11:49:38 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 11:49:38 +0200 From: des@des.no (=?iso-8859-1?q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?=) In-reply-to: <001501c53c1c$2269d840$f36c0893@v505> To: Leonardo Message-id: <86vf6x38el.fsf@xps.des.no> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on dsa.des.no References: <001501c53c1c$2269d840$f36c0893@v505> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110002 (No Gnus v0.2) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL autolearn=disabled version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Level: cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SATA Raid support problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 09:49:49 -0000 "Leonardo" writes: > "Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav" writes: > The S150SX4 is not supported in 5.3. There is limited support in > -CURRENT. > That mean if I use the -current version, the problem will solved?? That depends on what you want to do with it. RAID 5 is not yet supported. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav - des@des.no From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 8 11:36:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6533316A4CE for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 11:36:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 096C143D1F for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 11:36:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kulminaator@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 58so1046019wri for ; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 04:36:18 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=GnW7lkwL4oLmW8iv49svnKnxgIpadu8e5b+vfKtXNHFEXljddVAjnIbdo2DIUb0yrWaKF5OEUzxeaK/no6czoY4aciw2pfQrziBIgRLCB9QDdGd0SovHvT0K++ZecAUh+IQijjmBhmwAXo2qE/kiUJ8xDAcSgiJ7HqdrTnNM84s= Received: by 10.54.29.68 with SMTP id c68mr803109wrc; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 04:36:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.56.39 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 04:36:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 14:36:13 +0300 From: Martin Roos To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: kulminaator@gmail.com Subject: irda devices support X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Martin Roos List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 11:36:19 -0000 hi, i just recently purchased an irda dongle to use with my cellphone, but unhappily just after the purchase i found myself in the situation where my last choice of software, freebsd, does not support it. it's not only the 'item' itself, the whole irda support seems to be missing :S is anyone working on porting irda devices into freebsd ? netbsd seems to have an implementation which could be perhaps used as a reference to implement them. i've not yet worked myself through all the documentation that is related to irda communication, (there are zillion obfuscated pdf files moving around, takes a while), but it shouldn't be impossible to bring irda support into freebsd. i agree that most of freebsd users probably don't give a damn about irda support, but still it's kind of wierd that such a popular OS has no support for irda in it's kernel by 2005. i'm sure none would mind to control their pc-s with a remote or interact with other computer related devices (everything from laptops down to mobiles and palms) over irda. -- ########## Martin Roos From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 8 12:27:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFE8A16A4CE for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 12:27:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from tower.berklix.org (bsd.bsn.com [194.221.32.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6D9443D2D for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 12:27:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhs@flat.berklix.net) Received: from js.berklix.net (p549A625C.dip.t-dialin.net [84.154.98.92]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j38CRJ8o039942; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 14:27:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@flat.berklix.net) Received: from fire.jhs.private (fire.jhs.private [192.168.91.41]) by js.berklix.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j38CRIJm002032; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 14:27:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@flat.berklix.net) Received: from fire.jhs.private (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.jhs.private (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j38CRIH0016471; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 14:27:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.jhs.private) Message-Id: <200504081227.j38CRIH0016471@fire.jhs.private> To: Martin Roos In-Reply-To: Message from Martin Roos Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 14:27:18 +0200 From: "Julian H. Stacey" cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: irda devices support X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 12:27:23 -0000 I use /usr/ports/comms/gnokii to control my Nokia 6110 via infra red & serial. Dont know what sort of Infra red standard though. There's 2 competitive Gnokii type groups out there, (seems personality split). Gnokii does other models, but not my Sony CMD-J70, last I tried a while ago. - Julian Stacey Net & Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Mail in Ascii (Html=Spam). Ihr Rauch = mein allergischer Kopfschmerz. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 8 14:04:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 514F916A4CE for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 14:04:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7AE443D58 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 14:04:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kulminaator@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 58so1095981wri for ; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 07:04:52 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=R0yQjsgYS8pTmXDuH0OfiUNBaFxCKDxgJT1pmdRGN3rnilzXA8fjg9Ew4atFmhvx4OHIxNRJzGSXBIMKTebk1cLh+sQtFclo/XhcXx2HdzOzCtftow4qac82JBEVYPQznQtH6QCfb/ZELkOhZEiWPuv6TLKHdY8Be/7tKtytUCc= Received: by 10.54.34.64 with SMTP id h64mr1693650wrh; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 07:04:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.56.39 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 07:04:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 17:04:52 +0300 From: Martin Roos To: "Julian H. Stacey" In-Reply-To: <200504081227.j38CRIH0016471@fire.jhs.private> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200504081227.j38CRIH0016471@fire.jhs.private> cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: irda devices support X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Martin Roos List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 14:04:53 -0000 well i have a usb-irda bridge dongle here, which has drivers under linux and windows and even in netbsd, but not in freebsd (how could it have drivers on freebsd if the irda support is absent ? ) anyway, gnokii doesn't a thing about usb, so it can't help me out. ps. what does your gnokii config look like ? referring to gnokii's own location i can hardly believe that the irda connection works under freebsd (perhaps in serial AT mode in some wierd ways?) On Apr 8, 2005 3:27 PM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > I use /usr/ports/comms/gnokii to control my Nokia 6110 via infra red & serial. > Dont know what sort of Infra red standard though. > > There's 2 competitive Gnokii type groups out there, > (seems personality split). > > Gnokii does other models, but not my Sony CMD-J70, last I tried a while ago. > > - > Julian Stacey Net & Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com > Mail in Ascii (Html=Spam). Ihr Rauch = mein allergischer Kopfschmerz. > -- ########## Martin Roos From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 8 14:27:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EF0516A4F8 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 14:27:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from crumpet.united-ware.com (ddsl-66-42-172-210.fuse.net [66.42.172.210]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 000C743D1F for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 14:26:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mistry.7@osu.edu) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (adsl-68-252-59-28.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net [68.252.59.28]) (authenticated bits=0)j38DtNlu067716 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 8 Apr 2005 09:55:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mistry.7@osu.edu) From: Anish Mistry To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 10:26:52 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <20050318205028.GA45939@shellma.zin.lublin.pl> <20050318205635.GB45939@shellma.zin.lublin.pl> <20050408092820.GA80618@shellma.zin.lublin.pl> In-Reply-To: <20050408092820.GA80618@shellma.zin.lublin.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1726963.uqsLWKkerB"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200504081027.12643.mistry.7@osu.edu> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on crumpet.united-ware.com cc: Pawel Malachowski Subject: Re: bge(4) watchdog timeout with APIC 5.4-prerel setup with 64bit PCIcards X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 14:27:02 -0000 --nextPart1726963.uqsLWKkerB Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Friday 08 April 2005 05:28 am, Pawel Malachowski wrote: > On Fri, Mar 18, 2005 at 09:56:35PM +0100, Pawel Malachowski wrote: > > > Machine B: 5.4-PRERELEASE, GENERIC, IBM (x225?), dual Xeon, > > > 64bit PCI. HTT disabled, ACPI disabled, GIANT LOCK. > > > . bge0 on board BCM5703 > > > . two 3Com bge{1,2} NICs BCM5701 (identical as in A, but in > > > 64bit PCI slots) Cards connected to 100Mbps switch. > > > This machine works just fine only when onboard bge0 NIC is > > > being used. If I move vlans wih real traffic (only about > > > 5-10Mbit/s) to bge1 or bge2, it will fail with watchdog timeout > > > few times per day (sometimes few times per hour). > > > > > > Cables were replaced, switch was changed. > > > SMP was disabled. > > > System was updated from 5.3-RELEASE to latest RELENG_5. > > > > > > Nothing helps! > > > > > > I'm currently running UP GENERIC kernel with APIC disabled, > > > seems to work fine (1 hour). > > > > Failed again... > > > > Mar 18 21:49:01 xxx kernel: bge2: watchdog timeout -- resetting > > Mar 18 21:49:21 xxx last message repeated 2 times > > > > No idea, what else can I test? > > > > > > bge1: mem > > 0xf1000000-0xf100ffff irq 11 at device 1.0 on pci4 miibus1: > bus> on bge1 > > brgphy1: on miibus1 > > brgphy1: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, > > 1000baseTX, 1000baseTX-FDX, auto > > > > bge2: mem > > 0xf1010000-0xf101ffff irq 11 at device 2.0 on pci4 miibus2: > bus> on bge2 > > brgphy2: on miibus2 > > brgphy2: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, > > 1000baseTX, 1000baseTX-FDX, auto > > FYI: removing one of these 3Com cards (leaving only one 64bit PCI > card) didn't help. > Since these cards work just fine as 32-bit PCI on another PC, I > guess this may be hardware incompatibility (IBM x225 + 3Com on > 64bit slot) or bge(4) is broken somehow. > > > This onboard card works without problems. > > > > bge0: mem > > 0xf2000000-0xf200ffff irq 11 at device 1.0 on pci3 miibus0: > bus> on bge0 > > brgphy0: on miibus0 > > brgphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, > > 1000baseTX, 1000baseTX-FDX, auto Try reducing the buffer in the driver. See=20 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-net/2003-August/001203.html =2D-=20 Anish Mistry --nextPart1726963.uqsLWKkerB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCVpTAxqA5ziudZT0RAqsfAKCaae44VV/0AdChXlNyUCK/j4IbdwCgszjb 08ZnoVePO++p2SbgXxXs1iM= =5Qa0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1726963.uqsLWKkerB-- From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 8 15:09:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D864016A4CE for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 15:09:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from eddie.nitro.dk (port324.ds1-khk.adsl.cybercity.dk [212.242.113.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45C9D43D41 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 15:09:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from simon@eddie.nitro.dk) Received: by eddie.nitro.dk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E0CA911A143; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 17:09:32 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 17:09:32 +0200 From: "Simon L. Nielsen" To: Michael Lovitt Message-ID: <20050408150932.GD73649@eddie.nitro.dk> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="da4uJneut+ArUgXk" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dell Optiplex GX280? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 15:09:35 -0000 --da4uJneut+ArUgXk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2005.04.07 16:43:18 -0500, Michael Lovitt wrote: > Any success installing FreeBSD 5.3 on a Dell Optiplex GX280?=20 Yes, AFAIR there where no real problems but the system is mostly running Windows so it hasn't been tested much. The Broadcom NIC only works when being forced to 100mbit, but that might be something with the switch and/or cable. > What worries me specifically:=20 > * Intel 915G Express Chipset > * Integrated Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 900 (GMA900) > * SATA Hard Drive I don't remember if our Optiplex has exactly those item, but I do remember it has an onboard Intel graphs adaptor and a SATA disk, of some sort. --=20 Simon L. Nielsen --da4uJneut+ArUgXk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCVp6sh9pcDSc1mlERAmB+AJ44UGZIpq7eNSvImsYvEPz+YUQI+gCff7GZ x7xt6WdBuZAunXQGuUglifQ= =Km85 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --da4uJneut+ArUgXk-- From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 8 15:14:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43EE316A4CE for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 15:14:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from tower.berklix.org (bsd.bsn.com [194.221.32.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85E7343D1D for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 15:14:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhs@flat.berklix.net) Received: from js.berklix.net (p549A4EE5.dip.t-dialin.net [84.154.78.229]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j38FEt8o040351; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 17:14:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@flat.berklix.net) Received: from fire.jhs.private (fire.jhs.private [192.168.91.41]) by js.berklix.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j38FErYs002684; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 17:14:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@flat.berklix.net) Received: from fire.jhs.private (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.jhs.private (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j38FErCf023009; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 17:14:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.jhs.private) Message-Id: <200504081514.j38FErCf023009@fire.jhs.private> To: Martin Roos In-Reply-To: Message from Martin Roos Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 17:14:53 +0200 From: "Julian H. Stacey" cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: irda devices support X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 15:14:59 -0000 Martin Roos wrote: > well i have a usb-irda bridge dongle here, which has drivers under > linux and windows and even in netbsd, but not in freebsd (how could it > have drivers on freebsd if the irda support is absent ? ) > > anyway, gnokii doesn't a thing about usb, so it can't help me out. Shame, cos I have a new smaller Sony with (I think, serial & usb cables) I wanted to move over to smaller sony & use USB too. All I know is: I have used infra red between FreeBSD & my Nokia. It sometimes will & sometimes won't work, serial usually does work though not always: fail to init. lock up. (& it's not dirt, & its not device, might be hardware design, power levels, frequency drift, or sowtware version related, or serial protocol state table programming error. I have 2 Nokia 6110 phones to try & I think have used 2 different laptops, & my brother under Win 95 also had same problems sometimes with one of those 6110's on on infra red) I believe there's more than one form of infra red, but don't know which BSD supports, others here doubtless could give a more authoratative answer. > ps. what does your gnokii config look like ? It seems the stuff I used got removed when I went back to cable, but as I recall it was no more complex than port = /dev/cuaaWhateverNumber connection = infrared & perhaps I only ran it on FreeBSD-4, not 5, 'cos I remember before, my /dev/gnokii sym link disappearing on 5 (cos /dev is now dynamic), havent had time to get back to it. http://berklix.com/~jhs/dots/.gnokiirc > referring to gnokii's own location i can hardly believe that the irda > connection works under freebsd (perhaps in serial AT mode in some > wierd ways?) Dont know. I have controlled Nokia 6110 from FreeBSD infra red though. (4 series certainly, maybe 5 too) - Julian Stacey Net & Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Mail in Ascii (Html=Spam). Ihr Rauch = mein allergischer Kopfschmerz. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 8 16:52:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74D6F16A4CE for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 16:52:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (imap.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3F11843D45 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 16:52:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdfan@nurfuerspam.de) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 08 Apr 2005 16:52:46 -0000 Received: from dsl-082-083-241-071.arcor-ip.net (EHLO [127.0.0.1]) [82.83.241.71] by mail.gmx.net (mp017) with SMTP; 08 Apr 2005 18:52:46 +0200 X-Authenticated: #931807 Message-ID: <4256B6DD.1070800@nurfuerspam.de> Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 18:52:45 +0200 From: Markus Dolze User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.6) Gecko/20050319 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, de-de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martin Roos References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: irda devices support X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 16:52:49 -0000 Hi, there is the comms/birda port. You might have a look at it, but I remember that it only supports serial IR ports (those headers found on mainboards where you can switch the serial mode to IRDA in BIOS). What happens if you attach your usb device? Does FreeBSD recognizes anything different than an "ugen"? Regards Markus Martin Roos wrote: > is anyone working on porting irda devices into freebsd ? From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 8 18:50:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE5BC16A4CE for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 18:50:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from shellma.zin.lublin.pl (shellma.zin.lublin.pl [212.182.126.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2292543D31 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 18:50:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pawmal-posting@freebsd.lublin.pl) Received: by shellma.zin.lublin.pl (Postfix, from userid 1018) id 9AA19347116; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 20:48:28 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 20:48:28 +0200 From: Pawel Malachowski To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050408184828.GA99693@shellma.zin.lublin.pl> References: <20050318205028.GA45939@shellma.zin.lublin.pl> <20050318205635.GB45939@shellma.zin.lublin.pl> <20050408092820.GA80618@shellma.zin.lublin.pl> <200504081027.12643.mistry.7@osu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <200504081027.12643.mistry.7@osu.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i Subject: Re: bge(4) watchdog timeout with APIC 5.4-prerel setup with 64bit PCI cards X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 18:50:04 -0000 On Fri, Apr 08, 2005 at 10:26:52AM -0400, Anish Mistry wrote: > Try reducing the buffer in the driver. See > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-net/2003-August/001203.html this workaround was for different chipset and is already in the tree. however, I also tried lowering buffer this way and it didn't help. today I tried moving bge to normal pci slot (there is one on ibm x225 motherboard) and it worked without a problem! (testing for ~one hour) then I moved once again do wide pci slot and problem appeared again within few minutes... -- Pawe³ Ma³achowski From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 8 18:57:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4984E16A4CE for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 18:57:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail10.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail10.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.191]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A351943D1F for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 18:57:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from PeterJeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from cirb503493.alcatel.com.au (c211-30-75-229.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au [211.30.75.229]) j38Iv0AM025508 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sat, 9 Apr 2005 04:57:00 +1000 Received: from cirb503493.alcatel.com.au (localhost.alcatel.com.au [127.0.0.1])j38Iux7l094172; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 04:56:59 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from pjeremy@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au) Received: (from pjeremy@localhost)j38IuxFX094171; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 04:56:59 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from pjeremy) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 04:56:59 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy To: Martin Roos Message-ID: <20050408185659.GD89047@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: irda devices support X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 18:57:02 -0000 On Fri, 2005-Apr-08 14:36:13 +0300, Martin Roos wrote: >i just recently purchased an irda dongle to use with my cellphone, but >unhappily just after the purchase i found myself in the situation >where my last choice of software, freebsd, does not support it. it's >not only the 'item' itself, the whole irda support seems to be missing Check out /usr/ports/comms/birda It works well enough to talk to my cellphone but I still can't download pictures because the manufacturer has implemented that bit using a proprietary protocol :-(. -- Peter Jeremy From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 8 19:57:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15ED516A4D3 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 19:57:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9189343D31 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 19:57:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kulminaator@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 55so27817wri for ; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 12:57:31 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=taYDJ0hZupM2jQQXM1AfYyWK3P6RNjHOBSAtjPKJ2FeDxtgugK3RW4cMSaUaVyHSDHG4YKuW2aqU+csPhqqvcyXOvj6rv0JNfANX6WAFi5B79CIy3jiUSu32rpms5cmAzb7Thc2lit/WoljWM3Ogjay8qTAlTZbxer7NakR9p1M= Received: by 10.54.55.61 with SMTP id d61mr314734wra; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 12:57:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.56.39 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 12:57:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 21:57:30 +0200 From: Martin Roos To: Markus Dolze In-Reply-To: <4256B6DD.1070800@nurfuerspam.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <4256B6DD.1070800@nurfuerspam.de> cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: irda devices support X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Martin Roos List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 19:57:33 -0000 the usb dongle itself is only recognized as the ugen device, but this all here isn't only about my dongle ... as far as i have "grep"-ped the source of freebsd's kernel there isn't really any mentions about irda stack or irda device handling at all :S `grep -r -i irda /usr/src/sys/dev` comes out pretty clean ... (except about 5-6 comments). imho freebsd's kernel couldn't possible really recognize any usb irda dongle because it really wouldn't have any idea what to 'do' with the device without an implementation of irda stack. On Fri, 08 Apr 2005 18:52:45 +0200, Markus Dolze wrote: > Hi, > > there is the comms/birda port. You might have a look at it, but I > remember that it only supports serial IR ports (those headers found on > mainboards where you can switch the serial mode to IRDA in BIOS). > > What happens if you attach your usb device? Does FreeBSD recognizes > anything different than an "ugen"? > > Regards > Markus > > Martin Roos wrote: > > > is anyone working on porting irda devices into freebsd ? > > -- ########## Martin Roos From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 8 20:46:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E36B16A4CE for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 20:46:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kraid.nerim.net (smtp-105-friday.nerim.net [62.4.16.105]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4E6D43D1D for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 20:46:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from e-masson@kisoft-services.com) Received: from srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com (kisoft.net1.nerim.net [62.212.107.51]) by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C508341D21; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 22:46:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])B03A6C4FA; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 22:46:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com ([127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17635-05; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 22:46:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: by srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9C55FC4F4; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 22:46:44 +0200 (CEST) To: Martin Roos From: Eric Masson In-Reply-To: (Martin Roos's message of "Fri, 8 Apr 2005 21:57:30 +0200") References: <4256B6DD.1070800@nurfuerspam.de> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.4-RC1 i386 Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 22:46:44 +0200 Message-ID: <86k6ndq9mz.fsf@srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) XEmacs/21.4 (Security Through Obscurity, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at interne.kisoft-services.com cc: Markus Dolze cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: irda devices support X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 20:46:50 -0000 Martin Roos writes: > imho freebsd's kernel couldn't possible really recognize any usb irda > dongle because it really wouldn't have any idea what to 'do' with the > device without an implementation of irda stack. What makes you think that the irda protocol stack should be implemented in kernel ? Birda is a userland irda stack that uses a serial device as transport media. Éric Masson -- AB> Comment cela peut-il se débloquer ? AT> Fuca. Excusez-moi, je n'ai pas compris. Merci de répondre plus clairement. -+- AB in Guide du Neuneu Usenet - Il est con c'type, hé ! -+- From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 9 08:25:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 027FC16A4CE for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 08:25:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67DEC43D49 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 08:25:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kulminaator@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 36so295344wra for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 01:25:46 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=Ua6IGNoyYB2QkP0QNSNZcn5qcqX5iTOb7oy1FdR0LtARouMTl1z777w7Y65QSCZN8FjSd0ACiIvVfB3FY+bDtPDywzDYdnNeboxVrH+onwCgkTEdnx1h2GbsIXdSignOo2+eK53JRXVpyHhSijTt96jjH9y8iu4XmNF4a/iyGuM= Received: by 10.54.53.38 with SMTP id b38mr408218wra; Sat, 09 Apr 2005 01:25:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.56.39 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 01:25:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 10:25:46 +0200 From: Martin Roos To: Eric Masson In-Reply-To: <86k6ndq9mz.fsf@srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable References: <4256B6DD.1070800@nurfuerspam.de> <86k6ndq9mz.fsf@srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com> cc: Markus Dolze cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: irda devices support X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Martin Roos List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 08:25:51 -0000 i certainly dont think that every userlevel application should worry about implementing the irda stack itself ... this is kindof wierd (would you develope an ufs for each application that wants to use your data on your ufs formatted disk ? or would every network application have to own their own implementation of tcp stack ? i don't think so ...) besides, if there are certain hardware pieces like this usb dongle, then implementing a device on a framework in the kernel is certainly easier than inventing the whole wheel again. the linux driver for my irda dongle is pretty small. but writing all it by myself for freebsd wont probably be worth the result. birda seems to be a quite shallow solution with even shallower docs, and it doesn't seem to have a clue how to use an usb dongle as an irda device. (you can't just handle the ugen device as an infrared port, it behaves pretty much differently :) ) i am looking at it's code hoping to find some way to modify it to make it interact with the usb device ... but since the application wasn't designed for such hacks this can take quite a while. On Fri, 08 Apr 2005 22:46:44 +0200, Eric Masson wrote: > Martin Roos writes: >=20 > > imho freebsd's kernel couldn't possible really recognize any usb irda > > dongle because it really wouldn't have any idea what to 'do' with the > > device without an implementation of irda stack. >=20 > What makes you think that the irda protocol stack should be implemented > in kernel ? >=20 > Birda is a userland irda stack that uses a serial device as transport > media. >=20 > =C9ric Masson >=20 > --=20 > AB> Comment cela peut-il se d=E9bloquer ? > AT> Fuca. > Excusez-moi, je n'ai pas compris. Merci de r=E9pondre plus clairement. > -+- AB in Guide du Neuneu Usenet - Il est con c'type, h=E9 ! -+- >=20 --=20 ########## Martin Roos From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 9 18:27:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40EFA16A4CE for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:27:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail23.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail23.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03A8743D31 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:27:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 13714 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2005 18:27:48 -0000 Received: from server.baldwin.cx ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender )AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 9 Apr 2005 18:27:48 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.15] (osx.baldwin.cx [192.168.0.15]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j39IRgDE097376; Sat, 9 Apr 2005 14:27:42 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) In-Reply-To: References: <4256B6DD.1070800@nurfuerspam.de> <86k6ndq9mz.fsf@srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <2b8b3f59dfd955375bf96f1bf52be9fa@FreeBSD.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Baldwin Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 14:27:43 -0400 To: Martin Roos X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on server.baldwin.cx cc: Markus Dolze cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: irda devices support X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 18:27:49 -0000 On Apr 9, 2005, at 4:25 AM, Martin Roos wrote: > i certainly dont think that every userlevel application should worry > about implementing the irda stack itself ... this is kindof wierd > (would you develope an ufs for each application that wants to use your > data on your ufs formatted disk ? or would every network application > have to own their own implementation of tcp stack ? i don't think so > ...) You can always write a library that has drivers in it. OS X uses this approach for things like scanners and USB HID devices for example. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve" = http://www.FreeBSD.org