From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 11 19:30:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 448AF16A4CE for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 19:30:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web41827.mail.yahoo.com (web41827.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.94.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EC98643D45 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 19:30:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drumslayer2@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 40629 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Apr 2005 19:30:37 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=TAwmopE4S7X768EHCGy8+Gz4Iq3fQq9/P7CZcEa5s++nwQke8OlLdglfxk7ni51oPXBHuL/JVJ8F/G92FsMN9SuRm2CEX7Bwl2H4Ov+ixs3ULU0LFtTCvLWBe9bGwQq1DsO3891XOXxsCa6FsRKC8DgreHdyleLiZDSKn5w/Zbw= ; Message-ID: <20050411193037.40627.qmail@web41827.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [67.112.21.27] by web41827.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 12:30:37 PDT Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 12:30:37 -0700 (PDT) From: NMH To: hardware , questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Hard drive fullness limits information help request X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 19:30:38 -0000 Hi all I know hard drives tend to not run well when near full. They have trouble performing self adjustments (hardware), self defragging(unix/FFS) etc.. (as I can express it) However, I need to find some documentation or some help in explaining this better. I am working with some people who store loads of files, on many drives and tend to fill the drives to 95% and more and then can't understand why they become unstable. I need to be able to explain it better and I would also like to know more to be able to factually/sanely set a percent full safe limit. Any help would be appreciatted Thanks! NMH. The Large Print Giveth And The Small Print Taketh Away -- Anon __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 11 19:52:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDA6216A4CE; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 19:52:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.utdallas.edu (smtp1.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C006A43D31; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 19:52:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from utd49554 (utd49554.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.85]) by smtp1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B43B388F25; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:52:46 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:52:46 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: NMH , hardware , questions Message-ID: <73B9F311B457054FD8DF3A68@utd49554.utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: <20050411193037.40627.qmail@web41827.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050411193037.40627.qmail@web41827.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: Hard drive fullness limits information help request X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 19:52:48 -0000 --On Monday, April 11, 2005 12:30:37 PM -0700 NMH wrote: > Hi all > I know hard drives tend to not run well when near > full. They have trouble performing self adjustments > (hardware), self defragging(unix/FFS) etc.. (as I can > express it) However, I need to find some documentation > or some help in explaining this better. > I am working with some people who store loads of > files, on many drives and tend to fill the drives to > 95% and more and then can't understand why they become > unstable. I need to be able to explain it better and > I would also like to know more to be able to > factually/sanely set a percent full safe limit. > > Any help would be appreciatted > Q: What happens when you fill a cabinet that is designed to hold 100 folders with 95 folders, many of which are crammed full of papers? A: It gets much harder to put more folders in or to put more "stuff" in the existing folders. And papers start to stick out and catch on the top of the drawer because they no longer fit. Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas AVIEN Founding Member http://www.utdallas.edu From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 11 20:04:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A12A916A4CE; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:04:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zhonka1.zhonka.net (zhonka1.zhonka.net [66.228.195.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BFBF43D3F; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:04:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@philip.pjkh.com) Received: from wolf.pjkh.com ([66.228.196.74]) by zhonka1.zhonka.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-58414U4500L450S0V35) with ESMTP id net; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:04:05 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wolf.pjkh.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0041584B; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:04:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wolf.pjkh.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (wolf.pjkh.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25548-01; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:04:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by wolf.pjkh.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 66DB05849; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:04:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wolf.pjkh.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 617C75847; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:04:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:04:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Philip Hallstrom To: NMH In-Reply-To: <73B9F311B457054FD8DF3A68@utd49554.utdallas.edu> Message-ID: <20050411130116.S25455@wolf.pjkh.com> References: <20050411193037.40627.qmail@web41827.mail.yahoo.com> <73B9F311B457054FD8DF3A68@utd49554.utdallas.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at pjkh.com cc: questions cc: hardware Subject: Re: Hard drive fullness limits information help request X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:04:18 -0000 >> Hi all >> I know hard drives tend to not run well when near >> full. They have trouble performing self adjustments >> (hardware), self defragging(unix/FFS) etc.. (as I can >> express it) However, I need to find some documentation >> or some help in explaining this better. >> I am working with some people who store loads of >> files, on many drives and tend to fill the drives to >> 95% and more and then can't understand why they become >> unstable. I need to be able to explain it better and >> I would also like to know more to be able to >> factually/sanely set a percent full safe limit. >> >> Any help would be appreciatted >> > Q: What happens when you fill a cabinet that is designed to hold 100 folders > with 95 folders, many of which are crammed full of papers? > > A: It gets much harder to put more folders in or to put more "stuff" in the > existing folders. And papers start to stick out and catch on the top of the > drawer because they no longer fit. And to add to that, when you realize you want to re-organize folder XYZ to make it "tidier", but you don't want to do it to the originals since they are important to you, where are you going to get the room to first make a a copy of the folder, then organize it, then replace the original once you've confirmed that you didn't leave any papers on the floor. So you are stuck with an untidy XYS folder. Yuck. Probably not the most accurate analogy, but it's easy to understand... From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 11 21:09:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4139016A4CE; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 21:09:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpgate.tsgincorporated.com (ns1.tsgincorporated.com [67.66.242.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A497543D31; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 21:09:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micheal@tsgincorporated.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.tsgincorporated.com [127.0.0.1]) by smtpgate.tsgincorporated.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 059AA3CD70B; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:09:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from smtpgate.tsgincorporated.com ([127.0.0.1])port 10024) with ESMTP id 29371-06; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:09:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mail.tsgincorporated.com (lanmail.tsgincorporated.com [67.66.242.29]) by smtpgate.tsgincorporated.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30DDC3CD702; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:09:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from micheal (micheal.tsgincorporated.com [67.66.242.77]) by mail.tsgincorporated.com (Postfix) with SMTP id A0DB795282D; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:09:05 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <019e01c53eda$ffc461e0$4df24243@tsgincorporated.com> From: "Micheal Patterson" To: "NMH" , "hardware" , "questions" References: <20050411193037.40627.qmail@web41827.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:11:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at tsgincorporated.com Subject: Re: Hard drive fullness limits information help request X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 21:09:11 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "NMH" To: "hardware" ; "questions" Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 2:30 PM Subject: Hard drive fullness limits information help request > Hi all > I know hard drives tend to not run well when near > full. They have trouble performing self adjustments > (hardware), self defragging(unix/FFS) etc.. (as I can > express it) However, I need to find some documentation > or some help in explaining this better. > I am working with some people who store loads of > files, on many drives and tend to fill the drives to > 95% and more and then can't understand why they become > unstable. I need to be able to explain it better and > I would also like to know more to be able to > factually/sanely set a percent full safe limit. > > Any help would be appreciatted > > Thanks! > > NMH. > > > > The Large Print Giveth And The Small Print Taketh Away > -- Anon NMH, If these people are old enough to remember LP records, explain it to them in this fashion. A hard drive is much like an older LP record. Multiple songs, in sequencial order. You can play them in any order that you wish by moving the tone arm to a different song on the album. Now, say that you don't like track 3 and wish to delete it (if you could). You would end up with 3 minutes of blank space in the album. So, you want to add another song that you do like, but it's 3 minutes 30 seconds long and won't fit into a 3 minute time slot. A hard drive is able to place this 30 seconds at the end of the current space and be able to jump to that 30 extra seconds and you never know the difference. Now, if this happens a lot, meaning removing data, adding larger data, removing data, adding smaller chunks of data, etc, the actual data will get scattered throughout the disk. This is known as data fragmentation. Hard drives are able to deal with to a considerable degree however the more fragmented a drive is, the harder the drive has to work in order to make that unnoticed jump. As the drive works harder, access times grow longer and there is a higher potential for data loss. When drives get to a higher usage (90%+ utilization), there isn't much room to left to handle those scattered chuncks of data. That's the analogy that I used to use and it worked pretty well for me. Your mileage may vary. -- Micheal Patterson Senior Communications Systems Engineer 405-917-0600 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 12 20:22:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3170D16A4CE for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:22:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from jupiter.nswebhost.com (jupiter.nswebhost.com [72.9.236.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E707443D1F for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:22:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from full-disclosure@csilva.org) Received: from [80.172.153.20] (helo=[192.168.1.10] ident=nobody) by jupiter.nswebhost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.44) id 1DLRtl-0002MP-MD for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 16:22:14 -0400 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.0.308 [266.9.6]); Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:22:12 +0100 Message-ID: <425C2DF3.1070002@csilva.org> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:22:11 +0100 From: Carlos Silva User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jupiter.nswebhost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - csilva.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Acer 1601LC X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:22:23 -0000 Hi, Is the Acer 1601LC laptop fully compatible with fBSD? Thanks. Kind Regards, Carlos Silva From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 14 04:15:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12F1C16A4CE for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 04:15:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pop-a065b10.pas.sa.earthlink.net (pop-a065b10.pas.sa.earthlink.net [207.217.121.170]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDF2F43D48 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 04:15:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kwsn@earthlink.net) Received: from dialup-4.240.105.73.dial1.phoenix1.level3.net ([4.240.105.73] helo=jonnyv.kwsn.lan) by pop-a065b10.pas.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #10) id 1DLvlB-0002b1-00 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 21:15:22 -0700 From: Jon Kuster To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050402221816.GB772@zaphod.nitro.dk> References: <1112479124.51834.7.camel@jonnyv.kwsn.lan> <20050402221816.GB772@zaphod.nitro.dk> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 21:15:20 -0700 Message-Id: <1113452120.35949.9.camel@jonnyv.kwsn.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: PERC4ei? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: kwsn@earthlink.net List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 04:15:23 -0000 On Sun, 2005-04-03 at 00:18 +0200, Simon L. Nielsen wrote: > On 2005.04.02 14:58:44 -0700, Jon Kuster wrote: > > > Is anyone successfully using the PERC4ei in a Dell PowerEdge 1850? I'm > > Yes, I have a PERC 4e/Si (AFAIR it's that controller) in a PowerEdge > 1850, though the system is currently running 6.0-CURRENT. > > > looking to purchase one, but I haven't been able to figure out if the > > PERC4ei is supported. The closest I've been able to find is some info > > for Linux that says it's based on an LSI megaraid (link below). So can > > anyone confirm that the 4ei is supported in 5.3 (or 5.4) or not? > > Dell PERC 4e/Di and Dell PERC 4e/Si are supported, at least in > 5-STABLE (i.e. in the upcomming 5.4), probably also in 5.3 (I can't > remember wrt. to 5.3, but I can test tomorrow if you are interested in > knowing). > > See also: > > http://www.FreeBSD.org/relnotes/5-STABLE/hardware/i386/support.html#DISK > So everyone who is interested knows, the PERC4ei is an amr(4) controller. The relevant bits from dmesg: amr0: mem 0xdfde0000-0xdfdfffff,0xd80f0000-0xd80fffff irq 46 at device 14.0 on pci2 amr0: Firmware 516A, BIOS H418, 256MB RAM amrd0: on amr0 amrd0: 69880MB (143114240 sectors) RAID 1 (optimal) From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 15 00:17:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6355516A4CE for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 00:17:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from venan.com (69.37.251.158.adsl.snet.net [69.37.251.158]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC56B43D1D for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 00:17:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brandon@venan.com) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.6944.0 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 20:17:17 -0400 Message-ID: <9601B88775A54B4096261509AAB86A1F0420D4@server01.venan.local> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Installation Hangs: IDEQ 220N (nforce2) Thread-Index: AcVBUHuIv9vQokGHTQmGcmE/Epyf2A== From: "Brandon Curiel" To: Subject: Installation Hangs: IDEQ 220N (nforce2) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 00:17:19 -0000 Hi, I've been trying to install FreeBSD 5.3 on a small form factor PC (Biostar IDEQ) with the Nforce 2 chipset. The problem I've been having is that the installer freezes up right after it detects the hard drive and cd drive. I've been toggling BIOS settings for a couple hours now, and nothing seems to work. Also tried the 5.4 RC2, with the same results. Has anyone seen something similar and know of a workaround? Thanks, Brandon Curiel From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 15 03:13:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FD8516A4CE for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 03:13:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from avout3.midco.net (avout3.midco.net [24.220.0.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDB4343D2D for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 03:13:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdlist@sirjorj.com) Received: (qmail 4024 invoked by uid 1009); 15 Apr 2005 03:13:38 -0000 Received: from bsdlist@sirjorj.com by avout3 by uid 1003 with qmail-scanner-1.22 (f-prot: 4.4.2/3.14.11. 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Processed in 0.188606 secs) Received: from host-174-144-230-24.midco.net (HELO darko) ([24.230.144.174]) (envelope-sender ) by avout3.midco.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 15 Apr 2005 03:13:38 -0000 From: "Jordon Hofer" To: Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 22:14:53 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Subject: ASUS V9400 video card prevents FreeBSD from booting X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 03:13:39 -0000 Greetings. I recently discovered why FreeBSD quit working on my computer. When I replaced my GeForce 2 MX400 with a GeForce MX 4000-based card from ASUS (The X Series V9400 with 64 meg of RAM), FreeBSD no longer boots. For what it's worth, the contents of my computer are as follows: Dual P3-1.4 Tualatin procs in a TYAN mobo 1 gig RAM Adaptec 39160 -9 gig Cheetah (Windows 2k install) -18 gig Cheetah (NTFS) -4 gig UltraStar (i dont even remember whats on this one...) -Plextor CDRW -Zip Drive Built-in IDE controller -40 gig Maxtor (this drive is for FreeBSD) -Plextor DVDRW SB Audigy Netgear NIC Belkin USB2.0 card *** The long story is that I had FreeBSD 5.3 on the 40 gig drive from an install/update/rebuild I did a while back. My dual-boot setup is pretty unique in that I either have the 40 gig drive plugged in or I have the SCSI drives plugged in to keep the two systems isolated. I gave DragonflyBSD a try recently and found that it wouldd hang during the boot sequence. I then tried booting the BSD install I already had and found that it hung too. I tried booting the 5.3 install CD and got the same results. After lots of testing, including pulling out all hardware that wasnt essential to boot, I finally remembered that I had recently replaced video cards in favor of one with DVI support for my new LCD monitor. After I put the old video card back in, the 5.3 cd booted just fine. I just tried booting 4.11 (from a real BSDmall-purchased, honest-to-goodness, ours-goes-to-eleven cd and dvd) and got the same results. I really dont know how to proceed from here. If there is any other trick or way to get info to help the developers recognize this hardware and/or what is causing it to crash the system, I'm willing to help. *** Other interesting things I noticed: -Both win2k and bsd5.3 seem to see a firewire adapter on this video card even though there is no firewire connector on it. -I got halfway through typing out this email last week when win2k took a huge dump and the only thing saving me from a reinstall was SpinRite 6. -Yes, I did try booting 5.3 with different options from the menu: verbose mode, ACPI, etc... When in non-verbose mode, the last thing I saw was the waiting 15 sec for SCSI devices message. In verbose mode, I saw a few messages beyond that. jorj From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 15 03:19:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1707C16A4CE for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 03:19:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from avout3.midco.net (avout3.midco.net [24.220.0.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87F8543D49 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 03:19:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdlist@sirjorj.com) Received: (qmail 7341 invoked by uid 1009); 15 Apr 2005 03:19:56 -0000 Received: from bsdlist@sirjorj.com by avout3 by uid 1003 with qmail-scanner-1.22 (f-prot: 4.4.2/3.14.11. Clear:RC:1(24.230.144.174):. Processed in 0.132907 secs); 15 Apr 2005 03:19:56 -0000 X-Qmail-Scanner-Mail-From: bsdlist@sirjorj.com via avout3 X-Qmail-Scanner: 1.22 (Clear:RC:1(24.230.144.174):. Processed in 0.132907 secs) Received: from host-174-144-230-24.midco.net (HELO darko) ([24.230.144.174]) (envelope-sender ) by avout3.midco.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 15 Apr 2005 03:19:56 -0000 From: "Jordon Hofer" To: "Brandon Curiel" , Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 22:21:11 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 In-Reply-To: <9601B88775A54B4096261509AAB86A1F0420D4@server01.venan.local> Subject: RE: Installation Hangs: IDEQ 220N (nforce2) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 03:19:57 -0000 Hmm. This sounds like what I am experiencing. I just sent a message to this list (actually, I tried sending it last week, but it didn't go through. I changed outgoing mail servers and it worked instantly) that details my problems, and it does sound like yours. Unfortunately, there seems to be very little common ground. My system has a VIA Apollo Pro 133T chipset. The thing that kills my boot is the ASUS X Series V9400 video card. It is an NVidia GeForce MX 4000 based card. Maybe the NVidia connection between our issues is significant. jorj -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Brandon Curiel Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 7:17 PM To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Installation Hangs: IDEQ 220N (nforce2) Hi, I've been trying to install FreeBSD 5.3 on a small form factor PC (Biostar IDEQ) with the Nforce 2 chipset. The problem I've been having is that the installer freezes up right after it detects the hard drive and cd drive. I've been toggling BIOS settings for a couple hours now, and nothing seems to work. Also tried the 5.4 RC2, with the same results. Has anyone seen something similar and know of a workaround? Thanks, Brandon Curiel _______________________________________________ freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 16 00:17:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEA5416A4CE for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 00:17:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from S4.cableone.net (smtp4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4620B43D46 for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 00:17:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from vixen42.local.lan (unverified [24.119.71.146]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 16443098 for multiple; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:30:09 -0700 Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 03:19:49 -0500 From: Vulpes Velox To: "Jordon Hofer" Message-ID: <20050416031949.5a27fd11@vixen42.local.lan> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.0.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 2, First 8, in=3, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.119.71.146 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ASUS V9400 video card prevents FreeBSD from booting X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 00:17:26 -0000 On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 22:14:53 -0500 "Jordon Hofer" wrote: > Greetings. I recently discovered why FreeBSD quit working on my > computer. When I replaced my GeForce 2 MX400 with a GeForce MX > 4000-based card from ASUS (The X Series V9400 with 64 meg of RAM), > FreeBSD no longer boots. For what it's worth, the contents of my > computer are as follows: > > Dual P3-1.4 Tualatin procs in a TYAN mobo > 1 gig RAM > Adaptec 39160 > -9 gig Cheetah (Windows 2k install) > -18 gig Cheetah (NTFS) > -4 gig UltraStar (i dont even remember whats on this one...) > -Plextor CDRW > -Zip Drive > Built-in IDE controller > -40 gig Maxtor (this drive is for FreeBSD) > -Plextor DVDRW > SB Audigy > Netgear NIC > Belkin USB2.0 card > > *** > > The long story is that I had FreeBSD 5.3 on the 40 gig drive from an > install/update/rebuild I did a while back. My dual-boot setup is > pretty unique in that I either have the 40 gig drive plugged in or I > have the SCSI drives plugged in to keep the two systems isolated. I > gave DragonflyBSD a try recently and found that it wouldd hang > during the boot sequence. I then tried booting the BSD install I > already had and found that it hung too. I tried booting the 5.3 > install CD and got the same results. After lots of testing, > including pulling out all hardware that wasnt essential to boot, I > finally remembered that I had recently replaced video cards in favor > of one with DVI support for my new LCD monitor. After I put the old > video card back in, the 5.3 cd booted just fine. I just tried > booting 4.11 (from a real BSDmall-purchased, honest-to-goodness, > ours-goes-to-eleven cd and dvd) and got the same results. > > I really dont know how to proceed from here. If there is any other > trick or way to get info to help the developers recognize this > hardware and/or what is causing it to crash the system, I'm willing > to help. > > *** > > Other interesting things I noticed: > > -Both win2k and bsd5.3 seem to see a firewire adapter on this video > card > even though there is no firewire connector on it. > > -I got halfway through typing out this email last week when win2k > took a > huge dump and the only thing saving me from a reinstall was SpinRite > 6. > > -Yes, I did try booting 5.3 with different options from the menu: > verbose > mode, ACPI, etc... When in non-verbose mode, the last thing I saw > was the waiting 15 sec for SCSI devices message. In verbose mode, I > saw a few messages beyond that. Bad video card maybe? That seems like a reasonable explanation if both windows and freebsd are finding a firewire adapter on it when there is not. If two different OSes with known good drivers for a piece of hardware don't work, I would say the hardware is bad. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 16 01:55:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DB1416A4CE for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 01:55:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from avout2.midco.net (avout2.midco.net [24.220.0.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 567E743D2D for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 01:55:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdlist@sirjorj.com) Received: (qmail 13189 invoked by uid 1010); 16 Apr 2005 01:55:26 -0000 Received: from bsdlist@sirjorj.com by avout2 by uid 1003 with qmail-scanner-1.22 (f-prot: 4.4.2/3.14.11. Clear:RC:1(24.230.144.174):. Processed in 0.208734 secs); 16 Apr 2005 01:55:26 -0000 X-Qmail-Scanner-Mail-From: bsdlist@sirjorj.com via avout2 X-Qmail-Scanner: 1.22 (Clear:RC:1(24.230.144.174):. Processed in 0.208734 secs) Received: from host-174-144-230-24.midco.net (HELO darko) ([24.230.144.174]) (envelope-sender ) by avout2.midco.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 16 Apr 2005 01:55:26 -0000 From: "Jordon Hofer" To: "Vulpes Velox" , "Jordon Hofer" Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 20:56:42 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 In-Reply-To: <20050416031949.5a27fd11@vixen42.local.lan> cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: RE: ASUS V9400 video card prevents FreeBSD from booting X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 01:55:28 -0000 Possible, but it hasn't been a problem in windows at all. My theory behind the firewire is that the card has a chip that supports it but there are no physical connectors, maybe because it is disabled on this cheap card (it was about 30 bucks). jorj -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Vulpes Velox Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 3:20 AM To: Jordon Hofer Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ASUS V9400 video card prevents FreeBSD from booting On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 22:14:53 -0500 "Jordon Hofer" wrote: > Greetings. I recently discovered why FreeBSD quit working on my > computer. When I replaced my GeForce 2 MX400 with a GeForce MX > 4000-based card from ASUS (The X Series V9400 with 64 meg of RAM), > FreeBSD no longer boots. For what it's worth, the contents of my > computer are as follows: > > Dual P3-1.4 Tualatin procs in a TYAN mobo > 1 gig RAM > Adaptec 39160 > -9 gig Cheetah (Windows 2k install) > -18 gig Cheetah (NTFS) > -4 gig UltraStar (i dont even remember whats on this one...) > -Plextor CDRW > -Zip Drive > Built-in IDE controller > -40 gig Maxtor (this drive is for FreeBSD) > -Plextor DVDRW > SB Audigy > Netgear NIC > Belkin USB2.0 card > > *** > > The long story is that I had FreeBSD 5.3 on the 40 gig drive from an > install/update/rebuild I did a while back. My dual-boot setup is > pretty unique in that I either have the 40 gig drive plugged in or I > have the SCSI drives plugged in to keep the two systems isolated. I > gave DragonflyBSD a try recently and found that it wouldd hang > during the boot sequence. I then tried booting the BSD install I > already had and found that it hung too. I tried booting the 5.3 > install CD and got the same results. After lots of testing, > including pulling out all hardware that wasnt essential to boot, I > finally remembered that I had recently replaced video cards in favor > of one with DVI support for my new LCD monitor. After I put the old > video card back in, the 5.3 cd booted just fine. I just tried > booting 4.11 (from a real BSDmall-purchased, honest-to-goodness, > ours-goes-to-eleven cd and dvd) and got the same results. > > I really dont know how to proceed from here. If there is any other > trick or way to get info to help the developers recognize this > hardware and/or what is causing it to crash the system, I'm willing > to help. > > *** > > Other interesting things I noticed: > > -Both win2k and bsd5.3 seem to see a firewire adapter on this video > card > even though there is no firewire connector on it. > > -I got halfway through typing out this email last week when win2k > took a > huge dump and the only thing saving me from a reinstall was SpinRite > 6. > > -Yes, I did try booting 5.3 with different options from the menu: > verbose > mode, ACPI, etc... When in non-verbose mode, the last thing I saw > was the waiting 15 sec for SCSI devices message. In verbose mode, I > saw a few messages beyond that. Bad video card maybe? That seems like a reasonable explanation if both windows and freebsd are finding a firewire adapter on it when there is not. If two different OSes with known good drivers for a piece of hardware don't work, I would say the hardware is bad. _______________________________________________ freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 16 05:56:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20CDD16A4CE for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 05:56:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cydem.org (S0106000103ce4c9c.ed.shawcable.net [68.149.254.167]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D8D443D3F for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 05:56:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from soralx@cydem.org) Received: from S01060020ed3972ba.ed.shawcable.net (S01060020ed3972ba.ed.shawcable.net [68.149.254.68]) by cydem.org (Postfix/FreeBSD) with ESMTP id D437238489; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 23:56:31 -0600 (MDT) From: To: Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 23:56:52 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200504152356.52031.soralx@cydem.org> cc: bsdlist@sirjorj.com Subject: Re: ASUS V9400 video card prevents FreeBSD from booting X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 05:56:33 -0000 > Greetings. I recently discovered why FreeBSD quit working on my computer. > When I replaced my GeForce 2 MX400 with a GeForce MX 4000-based card from > ASUS (The X Series V9400 with 64 meg of RAM), FreeBSD no longer boots. For > what it's worth, the contents of my computer are as follows: [...] > -Both win2k and bsd5.3 seem to see a firewire adapter on this video card > even though there is no firewire connector on it. [...] > -Yes, I did try booting 5.3 with different options from the menu: verbose > mode, ACPI, etc... When in non-verbose mode, the last thing I saw was the > waiting 15 sec for SCSI devices message. In verbose mode, I saw a few > messages beyond that. If you pull the Adaptec 39160 out, will the OS boot? Can you send `pciconf -lv` and `dmesg` from the system without SCSI card and with V9400-X (if it will boot), and from the system with SCSI card and with the old video adapter? Timestamp: 0x4260A474 [SorAlx] http://cydem.org.ua/ ridin' VN1500-B2 From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 16 06:30:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F04A916A4CE for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 06:30:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cydem.org (S0106000103ce4c9c.ed.shawcable.net [68.149.254.167]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9D6E43D53 for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 06:30:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from soralx@cydem.org) Received: from S01060020ed3972ba.ed.shawcable.net (S01060020ed3972ba.ed.shawcable.net [68.149.254.68]) by cydem.org (Postfix/FreeBSD) with ESMTP id 0653F38DE4; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 00:30:16 -0600 (MDT) From: To: Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 00:30:37 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 References: <200504081514.j38FErCf023009@fire.jhs.private> In-Reply-To: <200504081514.j38FErCf023009@fire.jhs.private> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200504160030.37049.soralx@cydem.org> cc: jhs@flat.berklix.net Subject: Re: irda devices support X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 06:30:23 -0000 > I have used infra red between FreeBSD & my Nokia. > It sometimes will & sometimes won't work, serial usually does > work though not always: fail to init. lock up. > (& it's not dirt, & its not device, might be hardware design, > power levels, frequency drift, or sowtware version related, > or serial protocol state table programming error. > I have 2 Nokia 6110 phones to try & I think have used 2 > different laptops, & my brother under Win 95 also had same > problems sometimes with one of those 6110's on on infra > red) You probably use one of those cheap "Made in China" RS232-to-TTL cables? If so, you can safely store it in a garbage now, because those cables seem to have high (16%-64%) packet loss, under any OS (tested personally). Also, AFAIK, you have to have Nokia's genuine cable to use all the features of the phone, because all their newer phone have some kind of ID detection mechanism that won't allow data mode on non-genuine cables (shows "Accessory not supported"). Some more info should be here: http://gate.intercaf.ru/~lesha/6100/ Timestamp: 0x4260AEEC [SorAlx] http://cydem.org.ua/ ridin' VN1500-B2 From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 16 14:11:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31B6416A4CE for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 14:11:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from avout1.midco.net (avout1.midco.net [24.220.0.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A65F43D45 for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 14:11:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdlist@sirjorj.com) Received: (qmail 15030 invoked by uid 1009); 16 Apr 2005 14:11:15 -0000 Received: from bsdlist@sirjorj.com by avout1 by uid 1002 with qmail-scanner-1.22 (f-prot: 4.4.2/3.14.11. Clear:RC:1(24.230.144.174):. Processed in 0.149841 secs); 16 Apr 2005 14:11:15 -0000 X-Qmail-Scanner-Mail-From: bsdlist@sirjorj.com via avout1 X-Qmail-Scanner: 1.22 (Clear:RC:1(24.230.144.174):. Processed in 0.149841 secs) Received: from host-174-144-230-24.midco.net (HELO darko) ([24.230.144.174]) (envelope-sender ) by avout1.midco.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 16 Apr 2005 14:11:14 -0000 From: "Jordon Hofer" To: , Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 09:12:31 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 In-Reply-To: <200504152356.52031.soralx@cydem.org> cc: bsdlist@sirjorj.com Subject: RE: ASUS V9400 video card prevents FreeBSD from booting X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 14:11:16 -0000 I have tried that before. I tried booting it once with the bad video card in and all the other slots empty. It still failed. jorj -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of soralx@cydem.org Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 12:57 AM To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Cc: bsdlist@sirjorj.com Subject: Re: ASUS V9400 video card prevents FreeBSD from booting > Greetings. I recently discovered why FreeBSD quit working on my computer. > When I replaced my GeForce 2 MX400 with a GeForce MX 4000-based card from > ASUS (The X Series V9400 with 64 meg of RAM), FreeBSD no longer boots. For > what it's worth, the contents of my computer are as follows: [...] > -Both win2k and bsd5.3 seem to see a firewire adapter on this video card > even though there is no firewire connector on it. [...] > -Yes, I did try booting 5.3 with different options from the menu: verbose > mode, ACPI, etc... When in non-verbose mode, the last thing I saw was the > waiting 15 sec for SCSI devices message. In verbose mode, I saw a few > messages beyond that. If you pull the Adaptec 39160 out, will the OS boot? Can you send `pciconf -lv` and `dmesg` from the system without SCSI card and with V9400-X (if it will boot), and from the system with SCSI card and with the old video adapter? Timestamp: 0x4260A474 [SorAlx] http://cydem.org.ua/ ridin' VN1500-B2 _______________________________________________ freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"