From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 06:40:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF23616A4CE for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2005 06:40:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp2.skyinet.net (smtp2.skyinet.net [202.78.97.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40E6643D49 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2005 06:40:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fooler@skyinet.net) Received: from fooler (fooler.ilo.skyinet.net [202.78.118.66]) by smtp2.skyinet.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 448DE5BA57; Sun, 3 Apr 2005 14:40:13 +0800 (PHT) Message-ID: <07fb01c53818$01898f10$42764eca@ilo.skyinet.net> From: "fooler" To: "Marcin Jessa" , =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sten_Daniel_S=F8rsdal?= References: <200503311104.57782.bikrant_ml@wlink.com.np><05af01c535b8$b4a51720$42764eca@ilo.skyinet.net><20050331130213.656c4b88@dev.lan.Awfulhak.org><20050331154150.05ccb738.lists@yazzy.org><424D206A.4050007@wm-access.no> <20050402123403.493da87a.lists@yazzy.org> Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 14:40:19 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 1 X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: radius client parameters X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2005 06:40:15 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marcin Jessa" To: "Sten Daniel Sørsdal" Cc: Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 8:34 PM Subject: Re: radius client parameters > With it you have no way to access the userdatabase in the radius server and set queuing based on the info in it. since i didnt see the contents of sten's pppconnection.sh... i cant comment on that.... but if you understand how the FILTER_ID (came from the radius server as the info of user's bandwidth) and pass it to ppp.linkup and ppp.linkdown files as *label*, you can easily set the rate limit of per user using ipfw or any other bandwidth manager... fooler. From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 09:11:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBBD516A4CE for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2005 09:11:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B58343D3F for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2005 09:11:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vaida.bogdan@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so959347rnf for ; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 01:11:15 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=EAMCypFtb/SMm+OzmsqMdwzceQUctBiZ8E+gl+g2iBY2BPIeDbtOOpMLB3/Py16TYmtdFXMZSEuRWV7E0tr4zeK6u+ydVAckRl5hhy+aKUJcpsHm4ABF8/dadkwScZUK83asXAgNjtKaXcQE+zlchyyZiLhNp6amjj8NIQzwpc4= Received: by 10.38.101.60 with SMTP id y60mr4036228rnb; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 01:11:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.208.63 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Apr 2005 01:11:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <12848a3b05040301115bba0d74@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 12:11:15 +0300 From: vaida bogdan To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: mail software for freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: vaida bogdan List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2005 09:11:16 -0000 Hy, I woule like to know which mail setup that has the following characteristics you use for primary mail servers: - fast and reliable delivery - anti spam/phishing/virii filterring I would like to reduce the number of packages used in my current configuration or possibly change it as I have a hard time debugging problems. - postfix+qmail maildir - courier imap - razor agents - procmail - spamassassin - amavis - clamav - cyrus sasl2 Thanks, Bogdan From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 17:04:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 889E916A4CE for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2005 17:04:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dsl-200-78-46-113.prod-infinitum.com.mx (dsl-200-78-46-113.prod-infinitum.com.mx [200.78.46.113]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFF9E43D2F for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2005 17:04:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from eculp@encontacto.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 80) by dsl-200-78-46-113.prod-infinitum.com.mx with local; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 12:04:17 -0500 Received: from localhost.encontacto.net (localhost.encontacto.net [127.0.0.1]) by mail.encontacto.net (Horde MIME library) with HTTP for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2005 12:04:16 -0500 Message-ID: <20050403120416.ooris2fb40ksw4k8@mail.encontacto.net> Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 12:04:16 -0500 From: "Edwin L. Culp" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org References: <12848a3b05040301115bba0d74@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <12848a3b05040301115bba0d74@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 4.1-cvs Subject: Re: mail software for freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2005 17:04:18 -0000 Quoting vaida bogdan : > Hy, I woule like to know which mail setup that has the following > characteristics you use for primary mail servers: > - fast and reliable delivery > - anti spam/phishing/virii filterring I personally have grown attached to the Courier Mail Suite. The latest 0.49 has many new features. The bad news is that there isn't an up to date port for it. The good news is that it is not very difficult to compile, install and configure from source. Good luck, ed > > I would like to reduce the number of packages used in my current > configuration or possibly change it as I have a hard time debugging > problems. > - postfix+qmail maildir > - courier imap > - razor agents > - procmail > - spamassassin > - amavis > - clamav > - cyrus sasl2 > > Thanks, > Bogdan > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 22:11:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A81116A4CE for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2005 22:11:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lakepoint.domeneshop.no (lakepoint.domeneshop.no [194.63.248.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A3BA43D31 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2005 22:11:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@wm-access.no) Received: from [192.168.1.12] (host-81-191-10-247.bluecom.no [81.191.10.247]) (authenticated bits=0)j33MBPkm020629; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 00:11:25 +0200 Message-ID: <42506A0B.8050902@wm-access.no> Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 00:11:23 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sten_Daniel_S=F8rsdal?= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marcin Jessa References: <200503311104.57782.bikrant_ml@wlink.com.np> <05af01c535b8$b4a51720$42764eca@ilo.skyinet.net> <20050331130213.656c4b88@dev.lan.Awfulhak.org> <20050331154150.05ccb738.lists@yazzy.org> <424D206A.4050007@wm-access.no> <20050402123403.493da87a.lists@yazzy.org> In-Reply-To: <20050402123403.493da87a.lists@yazzy.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.2.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: radius client parameters X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2005 22:11:27 -0000 Marcin Jessa wrote: >>Why cant you use the sh scripts i wrote > > It's an ugly hack. > With it you have no way to access the userdatabase in the radius server and set queuing based on the info in it. > AFAIR user and bandwith info is stored in flat text files and parsed by the shell scripts. > One can ofcourse code something to make your life easier, e.g a parser connecting to a database and then altering the ALTQ/DUMMYNET rules based on the info fetched from it, just as the shell scripts do. > I appreciate the criticism but please re-read the script. There IS the option to use ppp.secret, but it was used with radius. Refer to Fooler@'s e-mail and ppp(8) about how to use it. It was only a suggestion for a proof of concept and i apologize if my suggestion offended you. -- Sten Daniel Sørsdal From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 4 05:59:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71CA516A4CE for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 05:59:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3C2543D55 for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 05:59:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from etechnix@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a41so1085381rng for ; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 22:59:31 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Bc0Ua8TqmMe7QSIM2JH6cZf44C62fdYQE9TepxvJRtmwIhhZI9BJBRp7VYldQg4RHevDtc+KVJ/tcb9rcbpCgt/WAtdIrYs3GbdP+xFAvwcbeMNyvytmsSTPo9ccC886EKEkCtjKjE6a8XlMQzyeE/uNdFGIE/kkaZSoFO8cIXw= Received: by 10.38.86.68 with SMTP id j68mr4989541rnb; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 22:59:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.4.22 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Apr 2005 22:59:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:59:31 +0500 From: Etechnix Support To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: PPPoE Disconnection Wireless X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Etechnix Support List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 05:59:32 -0000 Dear All, We are operating a WISP, following are the specifications, PPPoE access Concentrator 1. Freebsd 5.4-pre-release 2. PENTIUM 4 3. 512 MB RAM Client Side RASPPPoE Client ======================================================== i am having some problem with my PPPoE clients, we are using RASPPPOE sometimes users get disconnected automatically without requesting the disconnect, and the ppp.log of my PPPoE concentrator shows same values as when user generates DC request itself, ppp.conf and ppp.log are pasted below , please provide your valuable suggestions, also please note that i have seen the WARTA project document and am using some features of it tooo. ###################ppp.conf############################# set log Chat Command Phase hdlc lqm ipcp enable pap allow mode direct enable proxy disable ipv6cp set mru 1400 set mtu 1400 enable mschapv2 mppe disable deflate pred1 deny deflate pred1 set mppe 128 * set timeout never set speed sync set cd 5! enable echo set ifaddr 10.0.0.1 10.0.0.50-10.0.0.254 255.255.255.255 set radius /etc/radius.conf accept dns ###################Log when user disconnected Automatically##################### Apr 4 10:28:19 BRAS_WiFi ppp[10680]: Phase: deflink: open -> lcp Apr 4 10:28:19 BRAS_WiFi ppp[10680]: IPCP: deflink: LayerDown: 137.101.143.1 Apr 4 10:28:19 BRAS_WiFi ppp[10680]: Phase: Radius(acct): STOP data sent Apr 4 10:28:19 BRAS_WiFi ppp[10680]: Command: default: bg /etc/ppp/removeclient.sh USER disconnect HISADDR INTERFACE Apr 4 10:28:19 BRAS_WiFi ppp[10680]: IPCP: deflink: State change Opened --> Starting Apr 4 10:28:19 BRAS_WiFi ppp[10680]: IPCP: deflink: LayerFinish. Apr 4 10:28:19 BRAS_WiFi ppp[10680]: IPCP: Connect time: 37 secs: 10595 octets in, 0 octets out Apr 4 10:28:19 BRAS_WiFi ppp[10680]: IPCP: 118 packets in, 0 packets out Apr 4 10:28:19 BRAS_WiFi ppp[10680]: IPCP: total 286 bytes/sec, peak 468 bytes/sec on Mon Apr 4 10:28:04 2005 Apr 4 10:28:19 BRAS_WiFi ppp[10680]: IPCP: deflink: State change Starting --> Initial Apr 4 10:28:19 BRAS_WiFi ppp[10680]: Phase: bundle: Terminate Apr 4 10:28:19 BRAS_WiFi ppp[10680]: Phase: deflink: read (0): Got zero bytes Apr 4 10:28:19 BRAS_WiFi ppp[10680]: Phase: deflink: Disconnected! Apr 4 10:28:19 BRAS_WiFi ppp[10680]: Phase: deflink: Connect time: 37 secs: 7494 octets in, 326 octets out Apr 4 10:28:19 BRAS_WiFi ppp[10680]: Phase: deflink: 136 packets in, 17 packets out Apr 4 10:28:19 BRAS_WiFi ppp[10680]: Phase: total 211 bytes/sec, peak 610 bytes/sec on Mon Apr 4 10:27:43 2005 Apr 4 10:28:19 BRAS_WiFi ppp[10680]: Phase: deflink: lcp -> closed Apr 4 10:28:19 BRAS_WiFi ppp[10680]: Phase: bundle: Dead Apr 4 10:28:19 BRAS_WiFi ppp[10680]: Phase: PPP Terminated (normal) ################Log When user disconnected himself############################ Apr 4 09:45:05 BRAS_WiFi ppp[9155]: Phase: deflink: open -> lcp Apr 4 09:45:05 BRAS_WiFi ppp[9155]: IPCP: deflink: LayerDown: 137.101.143.1 Apr 4 09:45:07 BRAS_WiFi ppp[9155]: Phase: Radius(acct): STOP data sent Apr 4 09:45:07 BRAS_WiFi ppp[9155]: Command: default: bg /etc/ppp/removeclient.sh USER disconnect HISADDR INTERFACE Apr 4 09:45:07 BRAS_WiFi ppp[9155]: IPCP: deflink: State change Opened --> Starting Apr 4 09:45:07 BRAS_WiFi ppp[9155]: IPCP: deflink: LayerFinish. Apr 4 09:45:07 BRAS_WiFi ppp[9155]: IPCP: Connect time: 31735 secs: 148542 octets in, 555752 octets out Apr 4 09:45:07 BRAS_WiFi ppp[9155]: IPCP: 683 packets in, 716 packets out Apr 4 09:45:07 BRAS_WiFi ppp[9155]: IPCP: total 22 bytes/sec, peak 21344 bytes/sec on Mon Apr 4 00:56:39 2005 Apr 4 09:45:07 BRAS_WiFi ppp[9155]: IPCP: deflink: State change Starting --> Initial Apr 4 09:45:07 BRAS_WiFi ppp[9155]: Phase: bundle: Terminate Apr 4 09:45:07 BRAS_WiFi ppp[9155]: Phase: deflink: read (0): Got zero bytes Apr 4 09:45:07 BRAS_WiFi ppp[9155]: Phase: deflink: Disconnected! 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For more information see http://www.antivir.de/ or http://www.hbedv.com/ From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 4 13:27:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D76B416A4CE for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:27:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.qcislands.net (mail.qcislands.net [209.53.238.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C65443D49 for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:27:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fisp@ccstores.com) Received: from [209.53.238.86] (helo=[192.168.1.4]) by mail.qcislands.net with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DIRbx-000Oom-0y; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 06:27:25 -0700 Message-ID: <425140BE.1070506@ccstores.com> Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 06:27:26 -0700 From: Jim Pazarena User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-local_scan: locally submitted (86) Subject: routing 2 T1s X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 13:27:26 -0000 I will shortly be acquiring a second T1, along with it's own router as it's gateway. So I will have two gateway routers from my Telco each with their own /24 subnet. I will be splitting my equipment and clients across the two subnets. I also have a bandwidth limiting appliance in my present T1, and will be adding a second bandwidth limiting appliance to the second T1. http://www.netequalizer.com I have 7 servers which the clients need access to, and to which I do not require bandwidth limiting. What's the best way to share these servers with the two Class-C's? I thought of installing dual NIC's in each server and plug them all into a common switch and let the ARP system figure it all out. Will this work? Is there a better way? Thanks, Jim From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 4 14:00:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F8BA16A4CE for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 14:00:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.trueafrican.com (mail.trueafrican.com [212.88.98.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E0E943D31 for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 14:00:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ziggy@trueafrican.com) Received: from mail.trueafrican.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.trueafrican.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 39168-06; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 17:00:11 +0300 (EAT) Received: from trueafrican.com (localhost.trueafrican.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail.trueafrican.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1636B25F0DD; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 17:00:00 +0300 (EAT) From: "Ziggy David Lubowa" To: Jim Pazarena , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 18:00:00 +0400 Message-Id: <20050404135906.M27413@trueafrican.com> In-Reply-To: <425140BE.1070506@ccstores.com> References: <425140BE.1070506@ccstores.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at trueafrican.com Subject: Re: routing 2 T1s X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 14:00:34 -0000 On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 06:27:26 -0700, Jim Pazarena wrote > I will shortly be acquiring a second T1, along with it's own router > as it's gateway. So I will have two gateway routers from my Telco > each with their own /24 subnet. I will be splitting my equipment and > clients across the two subnets. ++ What kind of router do you currently have ?? > > I also have a bandwidth limiting appliance in my present T1, and > will be adding a second bandwidth limiting appliance to the second > T1. http://www.netequalizer.com ++ Havent used a netequalizer before but most bandwidth managers i have come across have like Lan extension modules which can be added and you have more ports to plug into !!! > > I have 7 servers which the clients need access to, and to which I do > not require bandwidth limiting. What's the best way to share these > servers with the two Class-C's? I thought of installing dual NIC's > in each server and plug them all into a common switch and let the ARP > system figure it all out. Will this work? Is there a better way? ++ Run a dynamic routing protocol say like OSPF (off the routers) which has your networks configured , and the appropriate routes will be propagated to your clients. > > Thanks, > Jim > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Regards David Ziggy Lubowa From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 4 14:00:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBCF816A4CE for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 14:00:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.trueafrican.com (mail.trueafrican.com [212.88.98.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5396843D1F for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 14:00:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ziggy@trueafrican.com) Received: from mail.trueafrican.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.trueafrican.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 39184-06; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 17:00:38 +0300 (EAT) Received: from trueafrican.com (localhost.trueafrican.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail.trueafrican.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8231925F0EC; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 17:00:38 +0300 (EAT) From: "Ziggy David Lubowa" To: Jim Pazarena , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 18:00:38 +0400 Message-Id: <20050404140038.M92576@trueafrican.com> In-Reply-To: <425140BE.1070506@ccstores.com> References: <425140BE.1070506@ccstores.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at trueafrican.com Subject: Re: routing 2 T1s X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 14:00:53 -0000 On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 06:27:26 -0700, Jim Pazarena wrote > I will shortly be acquiring a second T1, along with it's own router > as it's gateway. So I will have two gateway routers from my Telco > each with their own /24 subnet. I will be splitting my equipment and > clients across the two subnets. ++ What kind of router do you currently have ?? > > I also have a bandwidth limiting appliance in my present T1, and > will be adding a second bandwidth limiting appliance to the second > T1. http://www.netequalizer.com ++ Havent used a netequalizer before but most bandwidth managers i have come across have like Lan extension modules which can be added and you have more ports to plug into !!! > > I have 7 servers which the clients need access to, and to which I do > not require bandwidth limiting. What's the best way to share these > servers with the two Class-C's? I thought of installing dual NIC's > in each server and plug them all into a common switch and let the ARP > system figure it all out. Will this work? Is there a better way? ++ Run a dynamic routing protocol say like OSPF (off the routers) which has your networks configured , and the appropriate routes will be propagated to your clients. What are those servers running ?? > > Thanks, > Jim > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Regards David Ziggy Lubowa From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 4 15:28:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2022B16A4CE for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 15:28:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92.asp.att.net [204.127.203.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACAEB43D54 for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 15:28:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from josh@tcbug.org) Received: from twinmp (12-218-21-193.client.mchsi.com[12.218.21.193]) by sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92) with ESMTP id <20050404152812m9200gdtkue>; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 15:28:18 +0000 From: Josh Paetzel To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:28:10 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <425140BE.1070506@ccstores.com> <20050404140038.M92576@trueafrican.com> In-Reply-To: <20050404140038.M92576@trueafrican.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200504041028.11040.josh@tcbug.org> cc: Jim Pazarena cc: Ziggy David Lubowa Subject: Re: routing 2 T1s X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 15:28:19 -0000 On Monday 04 April 2005 09:00, Ziggy David Lubowa wrote: > On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 06:27:26 -0700, Jim Pazarena wrote > > > I will shortly be acquiring a second T1, along with it's own > > router as it's gateway. So I will have two gateway routers from > > my Telco each with their own /24 subnet. I will be splitting my > > equipment and clients across the two subnets. > > ++ What kind of router do you currently have ?? > > > I also have a bandwidth limiting appliance in my present T1, and > > will be adding a second bandwidth limiting appliance to the > > second T1. http://www.netequalizer.com > > ++ Havent used a netequalizer before but most bandwidth managers i > have come across have like Lan extension modules which can be added > and you have more ports to plug into !!! > > > I have 7 servers which the clients need access to, and to which I > > do not require bandwidth limiting. What's the best way to share > > these servers with the two Class-C's? I thought of installing > > dual NIC's in each server and plug them all into a common switch > > and let the ARP system figure it all out. Will this work? Is > > there a better way? > > ++ Run a dynamic routing protocol say like OSPF (off the routers) > which has your networks configured , and the appropriate routes > will be propagated to your clients. What are those servers > running ?? > > > Thanks, > > Jim > Regards > > David Ziggy Lubowa Aren't you going to need an ASN from your ISP? -- Thanks, Josh Paetzel From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 5 00:21:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3D5F16A4CE for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 00:21:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.nativenerds.com (host-70-0-111-24.midco.net [24.111.0.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5306D43D41 for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 00:21:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from estover@nativenerds.com) Received: from red (host-14-37-230-24.midco.net [24.230.37.14]) by mail.nativenerds.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j350XJTD094376 for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 18:33:19 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from estover@nativenerds.com) From: Ed Stover To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Native Nerds Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 18:21:51 -0600 Message-Id: <1112660511.6076.9.camel@red.nativenerds.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on mail.nativenerds.com Subject: courierpassd X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: estover@nativenerds.com List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 00:21:04 -0000 I have a mysql+qmail+courier-imap-3.0.8 setup. I want users to be able to manage there own passwords and as far as I know courierpassd is the only program that will allow password changes from squirrelmail and others. I am having a heck of a time compiling it. Do any of you know of a feasible alternative or a trick to get the darn thing to compile? The make error I get from courierpassd-1.1.0-RC1 is Making all in replace gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -g -O2 -c courierpassd.c In file included from courierpassd.c:38: courierpassd.h:24: courierauth.h: No such file or directory courierpassd.h:25: courierauthdebug.h: No such file or directory *** Error code 1 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 5 06:35:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98AE416A4CE for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 06:35:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.trueafrican.com (mail.trueafrican.com [212.88.98.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E153C43D1F for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 06:34:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ziggy@trueafrican.com) Received: from mail.trueafrican.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.trueafrican.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17233-04; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 09:34:32 +0300 (EAT) Received: from trueafrican.com (localhost.trueafrican.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail.trueafrican.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2039925F0DC; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 09:34:29 +0300 (EAT) From: "Ziggy David Lubowa" To: Josh Paetzel , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 10:34:29 +0400 Message-Id: <20050405062852.M36949@trueafrican.com> In-Reply-To: <200504041028.11040.josh@tcbug.org> References: <425140BE.1070506@ccstores.com> <20050404140038.M92576@trueafrican.com> <200504041028.11040.josh@tcbug.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at trueafrican.com Subject: Re: routing 2 T1s X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 06:35:00 -0000 > > Aren't you going to need an ASN from your ISP? ++ Well from what i understood its the same provider , so its not a multihomed situation so he wont need an ASN, BUT it would be good to have one so that as his network grows and he gets multihomed at some point in time , all his networks can be identified as coming from one administrative domain. > > -- > Thanks, > > Josh Paetzel > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Regards David Ziggy Lubowa From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 5 15:59:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E36916A4CE for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:59:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from superman.pns.networktel.net (superman.pns.networktel.net [216.83.236.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3CB943D1F for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:59:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from phill@sysctl.net) Received: from jor-l.pns.networktel.net (jor-l.pns.networktel.net [216.83.236.236])j35Fxsri009580 for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:59:54 GMT (envelope-from phill@sysctl.net) Received: from MESE (wifi-ipnet.sysctl.net [216.83.242.102]) j35FwLT7098025 for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:58:25 GMT (envelope-from phill@sysctl.net) From: "Phillip Salzman" To: Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:00:16 -0500 Message-ID: <000801c539f8$95268750$6745a8c0@MESE> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal X-AntiVirus: checked by Vexira Milter 1.0.6; VAE 6.30.0.2; VDF 6.30.0.16 Subject: Antispam solutions X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:59:56 -0000 Hello, I've been researching several different vendors for antispam over the = last few weeks. It seems many of the major commercial players (Brightmail, Sophos) charge per-user rates that make it difficult to the bottom line. One of the goals is to prevent the mail from actually hitting our = backend Qmail systems, but at the same time give users the ability to weed = through their messages in a quarantine. Initially we wanted to deploy Spam = Assassin but haven't found any quarantine method available. So - my question is what some of you were using for ISP-based antispam, = and do you know of a user-manageable quarantine for SA? We have roughly 90k users and 11k domains. Thanks for any input or critiques you may have... -- Phillip Salzman http://www.sysctl.net/phill/ From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 5 16:19:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E285116A4CE for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 16:19:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8022743D46 for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 16:19:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vaida.bogdan@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so1509374rnf for ; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 09:19:45 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=YU1ESvgASLJBvWr+DEw2N5aTdLajpcXO7D3friEJJYfx8zHUSDSEzdIkmkZZGKc6MpAhtFAx+xEg2PbB1OLhqu/v3lErBT7OYMMC9dn4zSRbR3e6rZChqg2Tp2zrc8Qp/gMlZLjwkOSJ42OXh3ATfwqhWm/kWxtJeLREB207k3g= Received: by 10.38.1.73 with SMTP id 73mr6167031rna; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 09:19:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.208.63 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 09:19:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <12848a3b05040509193f1c386c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 19:19:43 +0300 From: vaida bogdan To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050403120416.ooris2fb40ksw4k8@mail.encontacto.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <12848a3b05040301115bba0d74@mail.gmail.com> <20050403120416.ooris2fb40ksw4k8@mail.encontacto.net> Subject: Re: mail software for freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: vaida bogdan List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 16:19:46 -0000 any other configurations ?? On Apr 3, 2005 8:04 PM, Edwin L. Culp wrote: > Quoting vaida bogdan : > > > Hy, I woule like to know which mail setup that has the following > > characteristics you use for primary mail servers: > > - fast and reliable delivery > > - anti spam/phishing/virii filterring > > I personally have grown attached to the Courier Mail Suite. The latest > 0.49 has many new features. The bad news is that there isn't an up to > date port for it. The good news is that it is not very difficult to > compile, install and configure from source. Good luck, > > ed > > > > I would like to reduce the number of packages used in my current > > configuration or possibly change it as I have a hard time debugging > > problems. > > - postfix+qmail maildir > > - courier imap > > - razor agents > > - procmail > > - spamassassin > > - amavis > > - clamav > > - cyrus sasl2 > > > > Thanks, > > Bogdan > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 5 16:21:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7DBF16A4CE for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 16:21:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mh1.centtech.com (moat3.centtech.com [207.200.51.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30C5B43D48 for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 16:21:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from [10.177.171.220] (neutrino.centtech.com [10.177.171.220]) by mh1.centtech.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j35GL1ci025722; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:21:01 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Message-ID: <4252BACB.60600@centtech.com> Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:20:27 -0500 From: Eric Anderson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20050325 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Phillip Salzman References: <000801c539f8$95268750$6745a8c0@MESE> In-Reply-To: <000801c539f8$95268750$6745a8c0@MESE> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.82/808/Tue Apr 5 04:54:46 2005 on mh1.centtech.com X-Virus-Status: Clean cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Antispam solutions X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 16:21:02 -0000 Phillip Salzman wrote: > Hello, > > I've been researching several different vendors for antispam over the last > few weeks. It seems many of the major commercial players (Brightmail, > Sophos) charge per-user rates that make it difficult to the bottom line. > > One of the goals is to prevent the mail from actually hitting our backend > Qmail systems, but at the same time give users the ability to weed through > their messages in a quarantine. Initially we wanted to deploy Spam Assassin > but haven't found any quarantine method available. > > So - my question is what some of you were using for ISP-based antispam, and > do you know of a user-manageable quarantine for SA? We have roughly 90k > users and 11k domains. What I do at our company, is I use blacklists on our 'external' mail gateway - so all mail coming in to the company hits it first, and most of the spam gets blocked using that. I then have the gateway send all mail to a few internal mail hosts, which do virus scanning using clamav, and pass virus free mail on to my main mail server (which runs IMAP and POP services), which runs mail through spamassassin (spamc) but uses a second machine (running spamd) to do the processor intensive spam filtering. The spamd machine has NFS access to the users' mail directories (mounted from the mail server) so each user can have customized spamassassin setups (or none at all), and custom bayes databases. This setup seems to be working quite well for us. It is also very scalable, as we round robin the mail hosts (SMTP), the spamd server, etc. You can have a large number of SMTP servers, and a large number of spamd servers, and even run some vrrp or carp software on them for failover situations. Eric -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Eric Anderson Sr. Systems Administrator Centaur Technology A lost ounce of gold may be found, a lost moment of time never. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 5 16:21:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BF6116A4DE for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 16:21:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9EBE43D1F for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 16:21:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jsimola@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so1824150wri for ; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 09:21:05 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=rEmtT3c+86N+ZrELSSeBb72QKJzKx1+mXb9dXN/GVQhu9GCxH4Iwn6g9bDPv3bCmgM4blTM+l+sLTe2wI4GzoGYUCtHJi9w0Id4u183z1+51rJbnA49eOo2mcFnV2ibNOP+zXKRBKAdTRs0JBfPg3OKgUXgh7S6QOtJuRsc2b/s= Received: by 10.54.56.3 with SMTP id e3mr1273503wra; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 09:21:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.39.6 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 09:21:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8eea040805040509213d1be3a2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 08:21:03 -0800 From: Jon Simola To: Phillip Salzman , isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <000801c539f8$95268750$6745a8c0@MESE> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <000801c539f8$95268750$6745a8c0@MESE> Subject: Re: Antispam solutions X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jon@abccomm.com List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 16:21:07 -0000 On Apr 5, 2005 8:00 AM, Phillip Salzman wrote: > So - my question is what some of you were using for ISP-based antispam, and > do you know of a user-manageable quarantine for SA? We have roughly 90k > users and 11k domains. Off the top of my head, run SpamAssassin in a tagging-only mode and use something like maildrop to forward clean email to their email account (on another server), and forward Spammish email to a seperate quarantine box/cluster (which may be local to the SA servers). Then they can peruse their quarantine account via some webmail app and update their SA settings (from within the webmail). if ((/^X-Spam-Flag:.*No/)) { to "user@clean.mail.example.com"; exit; } to "/home/vpopmail/domains/spammish.example.com/user/Maildir/."; I've never actually used any quarantine features as I've never had access to any of the large filtering boxes, but I imagine you have to go log in to them somehow, so a seperate quarantine webmail app sounds logical to me. -- Jon Simola Systems Administrator ABC Communications From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 5 16:27:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F9FB16A4CE for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 16:27:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from monet.titania.net (adsl-68-78-82-25.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net [68.78.82.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1DA543D49 for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 16:27:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jtk@titania.net) Received: from [192.133.102.8] (renoir.titania.net [192.133.102.8]) (authenticated bits=0) by monet.titania.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j35GRtHT080779 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 5 Apr 2005 16:27:55 GMT (envelope-from jtk@titania.net) In-Reply-To: <000801c539f8$95268750$6745a8c0@MESE> References: <000801c539f8$95268750$6745a8c0@MESE> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Joseph T. Klein" Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:27:55 -0500 To: "Phillip Salzman" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) X-Greylist: Sender succeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.5.6 (monet.titania.net [68.78.82.25]); Tue, 05 Apr 2005 16:27:55 +0000 (UTC) cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Antispam solutions X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 16:27:59 -0000 Having bogon filters can weed out a bunch of spam before it hits your mail servers. http://www.cymru.com/Bogons/ Using Cyrus with sieve is one way to give users control. http://www.cyrusoft.com/sieve/ You can have spam assassin add headers and filter on the header values. http://directory.fsf.org/SpamAssassin.html All of the above is free. -- Joseph T. Klein PSTN: +1 414 961 1690 VoIP: +1 414 431 4231 Mobile: +1 414 628 3380 On Apr 5, 2005, at 11:00 AM, Phillip Salzman wrote: > Hello, > > I've been researching several different vendors for antispam over the > last > few weeks. It seems many of the major commercial players (Brightmail, > Sophos) charge per-user rates that make it difficult to the bottom > line. > > One of the goals is to prevent the mail from actually hitting our > backend > Qmail systems, but at the same time give users the ability to weed > through > their messages in a quarantine. Initially we wanted to deploy Spam > Assassin > but haven't found any quarantine method available. > > So - my question is what some of you were using for ISP-based > antispam, and > do you know of a user-manageable quarantine for SA? We have roughly > 90k > users and 11k domains. > > Thanks for any input or critiques you may have... > > > -- > Phillip Salzman > http://www.sysctl.net/phill/ > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 5 16:32:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD19416A4CF for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 16:32:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from skyweb.ca (smtp-2.vancouver.ipapp.com [216.152.192.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A8CD43D31 for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 16:32:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mjohnston@skyweb.ca) Received: from [192.168.15.82] ([64.42.246.34]) by smtp-2.vancouver.ipapp.com ; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 09:32:00 -0700 From: Mark Johnston To: Phillip Salzman In-Reply-To: <000801c539f8$95268750$6745a8c0@MESE> References: <000801c539f8$95268750$6745a8c0@MESE> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:31:59 -0500 Message-Id: <1112718719.7756.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Country: CA cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Antispam solutions X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 16:32:03 -0000 On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 11:00 -0500, Phillip Salzman wrote: > One of the goals is to prevent the mail from actually hitting our backend > Qmail systems, but at the same time give users the ability to weed through > their messages in a quarantine. Initially we wanted to deploy Spam Assassin > but haven't found any quarantine method available. I set this up a while ago, but quarantining viruses instead of spam. Here's what I did: - Amavis, with the following config for quarantine: @virus_quarantine_to_maps = ( new_RE( [qr'^([^+]+)(\+[^@]*)?@(.*)$' => '${1}+quarantine@$3'] ) ); This just appends "+quarantine" before the @ of virus-infected mail. You could easily use @spam_quarantine_maps instead of @virus_... . - Postfix, with virtual_mailbox_maps set to a complex SQL query that figures out the appropriate maildir and sorts into folders based on +extension - @Mail, with IMAP access (dovecot), for users to come in and browse through the quarantine. Power users can also browse the quarantine with a regular IMAP client. Most customers use POP3 and don't get the quarantined messages. This is a pretty nifty setup, IMO - you get the full flexibility of Amavis to run Spamassassin and virus scanners, and trivial access to the quarantine via the web or via IMAP. I expect you could do the same thing with qmail, but using -quarantine instead of +quarantine. If you want to get a little fancier, you could throw together a simple web-based IMAP client that had "spam/not spam" buttons for learning, and a "rescue from quarantine" that moved the message back to the INBOX, so it would show up in the POP3 box. Hope that gives you some ideas, Mark From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 5 17:00:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6337416A4CE for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 17:00:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from a.dotpix.com.br (ns1.dotpix.com.br [200.101.99.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B43ED43D5A for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 17:00:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wendel@dotpix.com.br) Received: from localhost (x [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.dotpix.com.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id 881034724 for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:02:17 -0300 (BRST) Received: from a.dotpix.com.br ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (a.dotpix.com.br [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 91208-15 for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:02:17 -0300 (BRST) Received: from d.dotpix.com.br (log [192.168.200.253]) by a.dotpix.com.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2860B4715 for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:02:17 -0300 (BRST) Received: from [192.168.200.198] (a [200.101.99.12]) by d.dotpix.com.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24BF0DD0 for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:04:08 -0300 (BRST) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:00:09 -0300 From: wendelmaques To: isp@freebsd.org Message-ID: <8A5000BEA786D0F4A28B29AB@[192.168.200.198]> In-Reply-To: <000801c539f8$95268750$6745a8c0@MESE> References: <000801c539f8$95268750$6745a8c0@MESE> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.0a7 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at dotpix.com.br Subject: Re: Antispam solutions X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 17:00:21 -0000 Hi Phillip, we are using amavisd-new with maia-mailguard. With maia-mailguard you user can get all control of quarantine and filtering rules. Take a look at: http://www.maiamailguard.com/ For you big-huge mail system, you need a very-very big mysql-innodb system to handle you quarantine system. -- wendelmaques http://www.dotpix.com.br/~wendel/site/ From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 5 17:03:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48AAC16A4CE for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 17:03:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from a.dotpix.com.br (ns1.dotpix.com.br [200.101.99.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD7FB43D1F for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 17:03:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wendel@dotpix.com.br) Received: from localhost (x [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.dotpix.com.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DBE94743 for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:06:02 -0300 (BRST) Received: from a.dotpix.com.br ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (a.dotpix.com.br [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 91208-18 for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:06:02 -0300 (BRST) Received: from d.dotpix.com.br (log [192.168.200.253]) by a.dotpix.com.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0204C4724 for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:06:01 -0300 (BRST) Received: from [192.168.200.198] (a [200.101.99.12]) by d.dotpix.com.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24173DA7 for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:07:53 -0300 (BRST) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:03:54 -0300 From: wendelmaques To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-ID: <7E064E469FDAF162324FB502@[192.168.200.198]> In-Reply-To: <12848a3b05040509193f1c386c@mail.gmail.com> References: <12848a3b05040301115bba0d74@mail.gmail.com> <20050403120416.ooris2fb40ksw4k8@mail.encontacto.net> <12848a3b05040509193f1c386c@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.0a7 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at dotpix.com.br Subject: Re: mail software for freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 17:03:59 -0000 >> > - fast and reliable delivery >> > - anti spam/phishing/virii filterring Where use here, for multi-domain system: MTA: Postfix + SALS + LDAP + TSL for MTA. MDA: Cyrus: IMAPD, SIEVE, IMSP, LMTP, SASL. Virus/Spam: amavisd-new + maia-mailguard. Webmail: HORDE/IMP and Prayer (hooked). All system is handled administration is done by ISPMan[1]. [1] http://www.ispman.org/ -- wendelmaques http://www.dotpix.com.br/~wendel/site/ From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 5 18:09:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22C9E16A4CE for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 18:09:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail2.palnet.com (mail2.palnet.com [217.66.226.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C8D143D1D for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 18:09:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mustafa@palnet.com) Received: from dogbert.palnet.com ([192.116.17.51] helo=felfel) by mail2.palnet.com with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DIsN4-0001Bp-Ip; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 21:01:50 +0300 From: "Mustafa N. 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Tel: +970-2-2403434 Fax: +970-2-2403430 www.palsms.com www.paltime.net www.palnet.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Phillip Salzman Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 6:00 PM To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Antispam solutions Hello, I've been researching several different vendors for antispam over the last few weeks. It seems many of the major commercial players (Brightmail, Sophos) charge per-user rates that make it difficult to the bottom line. One of the goals is to prevent the mail from actually hitting our backend Qmail systems, but at the same time give users the ability to weed through their messages in a quarantine. Initially we wanted to deploy Spam Assassin but haven't found any quarantine method available. So - my question is what some of you were using for ISP-based antispam, and do you know of a user-manageable quarantine for SA? We have roughly 90k users and 11k domains. Thanks for any input or critiques you may have... -- Phillip Salzman http://www.sysctl.net/phill/ _______________________________________________ freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 5 19:00:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 723A116A4CF for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 19:00:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from parmail02.sgcib.com (parmail02.sgcib.com [207.45.250.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C345843D3F for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 19:00:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from postmaster.par-msw@sgcib.com) Message-Id: <3ta9hj$6omur@parirp02.sgcib.com> X-IronPort-AV: i="3.91,152,1110150000"; d="scan'208"; a="7101403:sNHT16334576" From: postmaster.par-msw@sgcib.com To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 21:00:41 +0200 (MEST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Your mail have been blocked X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 19:00:43 -0000 Your mail have been blocked From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 6 03:58:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F66B16A4CE for ; Wed, 6 Apr 2005 03:58:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sta.galis.org (sta.galis.org [66.250.170.210]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CCC8643D4C for ; Wed, 6 Apr 2005 03:58:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from george@galis.org) Received: (qmail 11395 invoked from network); 6 Apr 2005 03:58:01 -0000 Received: from ixeon.local (192.168.80.100) by sta.galis.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 2005 03:58:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 5821 invoked by uid 2000); 6 Apr 2005 03:58:01 -0000 From: "George Georgalis" Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 23:58:01 -0400 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050406035801.GD5693@ixeon.local> References: <000801c539f8$95268750$6745a8c0@MESE> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000801c539f8$95268750$6745a8c0@MESE> Subject: Re: Antispam solutions X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 03:58:03 -0000 On Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 11:00:16AM -0500, Phillip Salzman wrote: > >So - my question is what some of you were using for ISP-based antispam, and >do you know of a user-manageable quarantine for SA? We have roughly 90k >users and 11k domains. > The following system works well for me. Use QMAILQUEUE patch and the following program to queue mail from tcpserver (which has lots of whitelisted subnets from trusted/prefiltered domains). Since you want per user quarantine, I would suggest rather than 'maildir "${scq}" ...' you extract RCPT from env and qmail-inject it with an envelope from quarantine@you.com, and whitelist that delivery IP. * anything that your SA processes as ham will be handed to qmail-queue during smtp, with status returned to sending smtp * anything that your SA processes as spam will be rejected in smtp but still delivered to rcpt in a way that they can filter it with their client and that will prevent spam with wrong addressed from being returned to forged from I've been thinking about extending my system the way you describe for a while, just not done it yet. the script below has worked very well for nearly a year, multiple concurrent mx work fine, and with that many clients you will probably want a spamd cluster network. (The sleep commands are very effective for emergency throttling of spamd) #!/bin/bash # exit 31 = permanently refuse # exit 71 = temporarily refusee # pwd is /var/qmail echo $0 # for the logs scq="spamc-queue" # a maildir with qmaild write perms tmp="${scq}/`safecat "${scq}/tmp" "${scq}" /dev/null <"$tmp" # save it to verify no falseys rm "$tmp" exit 31 ;; *) # spamc error, echo "$0 error, spamc exit $sce" exit 71 esac exit 81 # Internal bug my /service/spamd/run #!/bin/sh exec spamd -i -A 127.0.0.0/8,10.0.0.0/8,192.168.0.0/16 -m ${MAX} --username=qmaild --syslog=stderr 2>&1 // George -- George Georgalis, systems architect, administrator Linux BSD IXOYE http://galis.org/george/ cell:646-331-2027 mailto:george@galis.org From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 7 09:31:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D798916A4CE for ; Thu, 7 Apr 2005 09:31:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailout01.gamespy.com (mailout01.gamespy.com [207.38.0.248]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C4D443D1D for ; Thu, 7 Apr 2005 09:31:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from "") Received: from gmsmail (mail1b.gamespy.com [207.38.1.98]) by mailout01.gamespy.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 479073CFCF for ; Thu, 7 Apr 2005 02:31:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [64.41.179.208] by gmsmail (GMS 10.02.3270/AX0191.00.1c74f322) with ESMTP id iubmygba for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Thu, 7 Apr 2005 02:30:59 -0700 From: customercare@gamespy.com To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20050407093101.479073CFCF@mailout01.gamespy.com> Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 02:31:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [WARNING: VIRUS REMOVED] approved excel document X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 09:31:04 -0000 Thank you for contacting GameSpy! 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Mark "The FreshMaker" Surfas From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 7 15:02:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BF2B16A4CE for ; Thu, 7 Apr 2005 15:02:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from complx.LF.net (complx.LF.net [212.9.190.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BAEE43D5A for ; Thu, 7 Apr 2005 15:02:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@complx.LF.net) Received: from lists by complx.LF.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DJYWJ-0004G6-Uy for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 17:02:11 +0200 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:02:11 +0200 From: Kurt Jaeger To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050407150211.GJ60920@complx.LF.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Subject: initiating an l2tp tunnel ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 15:02:13 -0000 Hi! Can someone point me to some guide on how to set up some l2tp connection from a freebsd system to some far end l2tp host ? Thanks. -- MfG/Best regards, Kurt Jaeger 15 years to go ! LF.net GmbH fon +49 711 90074-23 pi@LF.net Ruppmannstr. 27 fax +49 711 90074-33 D-70565 Stuttgart mob +49 171 3101372 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 7 16:19:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA07816A4CE for ; Thu, 7 Apr 2005 16:19:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.frii.com (phobos01.frii.net [216.17.128.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3856C43D39 for ; Thu, 7 Apr 2005 16:19:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@frii.com) Received: from elara.frii.com (elara.frii.com [216.17.128.39]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.frii.com (FRII) with ESMTP id 86F011DE9DE for ; Thu, 7 Apr 2005 10:19:37 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 10:19:36 -0600 (MDT) From: Matt Ruzicka X-X-Sender: mattr@elara.frii.com To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Webmail Recommendations X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 16:19:38 -0000 I've seen this has gone back and forth in the past, but I didn't see much jumping out at me since 2003 in the searchable archives. I'm wondering what the current temperature of webmail software was. We are currently using SquirrelMail and although we are largely quite happy there are a number of minor oddities that are causing our more sensitive customers no end of frustration. Seeing as it appears about 25% of our customers use our webmail at least occasionally we're looking at potentially shifting gears in the not too distant future. What are other using and how happy are they with them? Looks like Horde and Open WebMail are still running reasonably strong, though I have never interacted with either of them. Are there new or recently re-emerged packages out there? Unfortunately we are looking for something with a reasonably slick interface (SquirrelMail is maybe lacking in this department a bit), as well as a solid backend. As we all know people only care if they notice the backend causes them problems, but almost everyone seems to care how something looks. Thanks in advance for any input. Matthew Ruzicka - Systems Administrator Front Range Internet, Inc. matt@frii.net - (970) 212-0728 Got SPAM? Take back your email with MailArmory. http://www.MailArmory.com From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 7 17:16:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1CA616A4CE for ; Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:16:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.bosquedeniebla.com (72-12-2-214.wan.networktel.net [72.12.2.214]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33F1443D1D for ; Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:16:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from eculp@encontacto.net) Received: from dsl-200-78-46-123.prod-infinitum.com.mx (dsl-200-78-46-123.prod-infinitum.com.mx [200.78.46.123]) by mail.bosquedeniebla.com with esmtp; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 12:16:20 -0500 id 00095CA3.42556AE4.00016C5D Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 80) by dsl-200-78-46-123.prod-infinitum.com.mx with local; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 12:16:18 -0500 Received: from localhost.encontacto.net (localhost.encontacto.net [127.0.0.1]) by mail.encontacto.net (Horde MIME library) with HTTP for ; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 12:16:18 -0500 Message-ID: <20050407121618.jtbojyx34004ggg8@mail.encontacto.net> Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 12:16:18 -0500 From: "Edwin L. Culp" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 4.1-cvs Subject: Re: Webmail Recommendations X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 17:16:23 -0000 Quoting Matt Ruzicka : > I've seen this has gone back and forth in the past, but I didn't see much > jumping out at me since 2003 in the searchable archives. I'm wondering > what the current temperature of webmail software was. > > We are currently using SquirrelMail and although we are largely quite > happy there are a number of minor oddities that are causing our more > sensitive customers no end of frustration. Seeing as it appears about 25% > of our customers use our webmail at least occasionally we're looking at > potentially shifting gears in the not too distant future. > > What are other using and how happy are they with them? Looks like Horde > and Open WebMail are still running reasonably strong, though I have never > interacted with either of them. Are there new or recently re-emerged > packages out there? > > Unfortunately we are looking for something with a reasonably slick > interface (SquirrelMail is maybe lacking in this department a bit), as > well as a solid backend. As we all know people only care if they notice > the backend causes them problems, but almost everyone seems to care how > something looks. You might want to test drive the latest horde. I can't imagine anything much slicker ;) You will notice a speed difference. SquirrelMail is faster. I use both but prefer horde because of the other apps. and the quality of the framework and integration. ed From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 7 18:34:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B592916A4CE for ; Thu, 7 Apr 2005 18:34:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from skyweb.ca (smtp-2.vancouver.ipapp.com [216.152.192.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51B2643D4C for ; Thu, 7 Apr 2005 18:34:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mjohnston@skyweb.ca) Received: from [192.168.15.82] ([64.42.246.34]) by smtp-2.vancouver.ipapp.com ; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 11:34:24 -0700 From: Mark Johnston To: Matt Ruzicka In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 13:34:19 -0500 Message-Id: <1112898859.7918.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Country: CA cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Webmail Recommendations X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 18:34:31 -0000 On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 10:19 -0600, Matt Ruzicka wrote: > Unfortunately we are looking for something with a reasonably slick > interface (SquirrelMail is maybe lacking in this department a bit), as > well as a solid backend. As we all know people only care if they notice > the backend causes them problems, but almost everyone seems to care how > something looks. After much deliberation and poking at different webmail systems, we shelled out for the @Mail (http://www.atmail.com) webmail component - about $800 IIRC, which buys you the full source. It's all perl and runs under mod_perl, so it goes really fast. We run it mainly with IMAP, but some customers are using it for off-site POP3 servers, which it seems to handle well too. I haven't needed tech support, so I can't judge that. As far as the interface, it's very slick-looking; under IE it puts up a simulation of MS Outlook, and in Firefox and other browsers it has a nice-looking lightweight feel. They have an online demo linked from their site, and a downloadable (obfuscated source) demo as well. Caveats: the interface is pretty static - if you want to make changes to it, you can expect to invest some significant time in that. Also, we haven't put it under serious load yet, so I can't be sure about hardware requirements. Horde was my second choice, and I do actually run it on a personal server. It's pretty tricky to get going, and the interface is less polished, but it's served its purpose well for me. HTH, Mark From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 8 00:11:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9740816A4CE for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 00:11:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smarthost2.sentex.ca (smarthost2.sentex.ca [205.211.164.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B4D543D48 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 00:11:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from BLUELAPIS.sentex.ca (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by smarthost2.sentex.ca (8.13.3/8.13.3) with SMTP id j380AZi5085922; Thu, 7 Apr 2005 20:10:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) From: Mike Tancsa To: Kurt Jaeger Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 20:10:40 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20050407150211.GJ60920@complx.LF.net> In-Reply-To: <20050407150211.GJ60920@complx.LF.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: initiating an l2tp tunnel ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 00:11:54 -0000 On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:02:11 +0200, in sentex.lists.freebsd.isp you wrote: >Hi! > >Can someone point me to some guide on how to set up some >l2tp connection from a freebsd system to some far end l2tp host ? Try the port /usr/ports/net/sl2tps ---Mike -------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, Sentex communications http://www.sentex.net Providing Internet Access since 1994 mike@sentex.net, (http://www.tancsa.com) From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 8 01:44:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0D9316A4CE for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 01:44:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web209.biz.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web209.biz.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.224.171]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 423B143D45 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 01:44:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from smatlick@corwindistributors.com) Message-ID: <20050408014416.22640.qmail@web209.biz.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Received: from [67.81.219.97] by web209.biz.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 18:44:16 PDT Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 18:44:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Matlick To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Which IMAP server to use for virtual hosting? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 01:44:18 -0000 I apologize up front if this is not the correct list to post this on. I am currently running FreeBSD 5.3, Postfix 2.0, and MySQL 4.1. I am now in the process of deciding which IMAP server to go with. I did originally install Courier-IMAP and played around with that, deinstalled it and then installed Cyrus-IMAP. My needs are basically: - Autocreation of mailboxes when either a user logs in for the first time to check his/her email, or when an email is sent to a new user. - Virtual domain hosting Security is of course another issue, as is ease of installation and maintenance. I know most people have their favorites and stand by them, but from an objective standpoint which IMAP server would meet my needs above? It also doesn't have to be either of the two I tried; it could be one that I haven't even looked at yet. Thanks in advance! Stephen Matlick Corwin Distributors From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 8 05:31:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D361F16A4CE for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 05:31:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp4.wlink.com.np (smtp4.wlink.com.np [202.79.32.87]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A91C443D55 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 05:31:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bikrant@wlink.com.np) Received: (qmail 67038 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2005 05:31:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO av-scanner-02.wlink.com.np) (202.79.32.91) by 0 with SMTP; 8 Apr 2005 05:31:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 82569 invoked by uid 1009); 8 Apr 2005 05:31:39 -0000 Received: from bikrant@wlink.com.np by av-scanner-02.wlink.com.np by uid 1003 with qmail-scanner-1.20 ( Clear:RC:1(202.79.32.78):. Processed in 0.010757 secs); 08 Apr 2005 05:31:39 -0000 Received: from smtp3.wlink.com.np (202.79.32.78) by av-scanner-02.wlink.com.np with SMTP; 8 Apr 2005 05:31:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 14591 invoked by uid 514); 8 Apr 2005 05:31:37 -0000 Received: from [202.79.36.168] (HELO bikrant.wlink.com.np) by smtp3.wlink.com.np (qmail-smtpd) with SMTP; 08 Apr 2005 05:31:36 -0000 (Fri, 08 Apr 2005 11:16:36 +0545) From: Bikrant Neupane To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, vaida bogdan Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 11:16:21 +0545 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <12848a3b05040301115bba0d74@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <12848a3b05040301115bba0d74@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200504081116.21724.bikrant@wlink.com.np> X-Spam-Check-By: smtp3.wlink.com.np Spam: No ; -104.9 / 5.0 X-Spam-Status-WL: No, hits=-104.9 required=5.0 Subject: Re: mail software for freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 05:31:50 -0000 We have been using qpsmtpd in our mx for almost 2 years now. It is written in perl and is modular but resource utilization is very high in terms of cpu and memory usage. It checks for: early talkers spam helo max limit to unrecognized commands dns resolve tarpit limit badmailfrom badrcptto dnsbl recipient verification from radius for local domains spamassassin grey listing and lot more. By using above filters I have been able to filter out more than 70% of the mails that my MX receives. And some modules can reject mails just by reading the mail headers even before getting the data. This does save bandwidth on my link. Qpsmtpd finally delivers the mail to qmail-queue. However I have patched qmail to integrate it with qmail-scanner. Qmail-scanner then calls clamdscan which checks for virus with the clamd running on another server. But obviously this system is not fast!!! and is heavy on resources and that's the only issue I have. User validity check against radius is the main feature for which we are using qpsmtpd. Can you one suggest me a better mta than this with all those features :) regards, Bikrant On Sunday 03 April 2005 14:56, vaida bogdan wrote: > Hy, I woule like to know which mail setup that has the following > characteristics you use for primary mail servers: > - fast and reliable delivery > - anti spam/phishing/virii filterring > > I would like to reduce the number of packages used in my current > configuration or possibly change it as I have a hard time debugging > problems. > - postfix+qmail maildir > - courier imap > - razor agents > - procmail > - spamassassin > - amavis > - clamav > - cyrus sasl2 > > Thanks, > Bogdan > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 8 08:07:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7154016A4F1 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 08:07:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from materva.diewebmaster.at (materva.diewebmaster.at [80.66.42.216]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9759D43D31 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 08:07:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from christian.damm@diewebmaster.at) Received: from localhost (localhost.diewebmaster.at [127.0.0.1]) by materva.diewebmaster.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CBA1218100; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 10:07:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from materva.diewebmaster.at ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (materva.diewebmaster.at [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26823-10; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 10:07:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.14] (da.diewebmaster.at [192.168.1.14]) by materva.diewebmaster.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E30C2180D7; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 10:07:28 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <42563ACF.9010801@diewebmaster.at> Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 10:03:27 +0200 From: Christian Damm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bikrant Neupane References: <12848a3b05040301115bba0d74@mail.gmail.com> <200504081116.21724.bikrant@wlink.com.np> In-Reply-To: <200504081116.21724.bikrant@wlink.com.np> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at diewebmaster.at cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org cc: vaida bogdan Subject: Re: mail software for freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 08:07:33 -0000 Bikrant Neupane schrieb: > We have been using qpsmtpd in our mx for almost 2 years now. It is written in > perl and is modular but resource utilization is very high in terms of cpu and > memory usage. > > It checks for: > > early talkers > spam helo > max limit to unrecognized commands > dns resolve > tarpit limit > badmailfrom > badrcptto > dnsbl > recipient verification from radius for local domains > spamassassin > grey listing > > and lot more. > > By using above filters I have been able to filter out more than 70% of the > mails that my MX receives. And some modules can reject mails just by reading > the mail headers even before getting the data. This does save bandwidth on my > link. Qpsmtpd finally delivers the mail to qmail-queue. However I have > patched qmail to integrate it with qmail-scanner. Qmail-scanner then calls > clamdscan which checks for virus with the clamd running on another server. > > But obviously this system is not fast!!! and is heavy on resources and that's > the only issue I have. User validity check against radius is the main feature > for which we are using qpsmtpd. > > Can you one suggest me a better mta than this with all those features :) if you are looking for an extremely fast, stable, secure and scalable MTA with top notch anti-spam features out of the box, go with postfix - you wont regret it...all of the anti ube/uce stuff you mentioned above is possible with postfix (some of them with a little bit of tweaking) because of postfix`s very modular architecture. > > > regards, > Bikrant > > > > > On Sunday 03 April 2005 14:56, vaida bogdan wrote: > >>Hy, I woule like to know which mail setup that has the following >>characteristics you use for primary mail servers: >> - fast and reliable delivery >> - anti spam/phishing/virii filterring >> >>I would like to reduce the number of packages used in my current >>configuration or possibly change it as I have a hard time debugging >>problems. >> - postfix+qmail maildir >> - courier imap >> - razor agents >> - procmail >> - spamassassin >> - amavis >> - clamav >> - cyrus sasl2 >> >>Thanks, >> Bogdan >>_______________________________________________ >>freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > !DSPAM:4256175c625692098659935! > -- mfg. christian damm technische leitung phone: dw 42 email: christian.damm@diewebmaster.at icq at work: 124464652 die webmaster - flötzerweg 156 - 4030 linz - austria phone: +43-732-381242, fax: +43-732-381242-22, isdn (leonardo): +43-732-381242-33 homepage: www.diewebmaster.at, public email: office@diewebmaster.at From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 8 08:24:39 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D424A16A4CE for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 08:24:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from materva.diewebmaster.at (materva.diewebmaster.at [80.66.42.216]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 701AB43D45 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 08:24:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from christian.damm@diewebmaster.at) Received: from localhost (localhost.diewebmaster.at [127.0.0.1]) by materva.diewebmaster.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65A2F218100; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 10:24:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from materva.diewebmaster.at ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (materva.diewebmaster.at [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27875-02; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 10:24:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.14] (da.diewebmaster.at [192.168.1.14]) by materva.diewebmaster.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA81F2180D7; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 10:24:37 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <42563ED6.1070201@diewebmaster.at> Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 10:20:38 +0200 From: Christian Damm User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stephen Matlick References: <20050408014416.22640.qmail@web209.biz.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050408014416.22640.qmail@web209.biz.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at diewebmaster.at cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Which IMAP server to use for virtual hosting? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 08:24:39 -0000 Stephen Matlick schrieb: > I apologize up front if this is not the correct list to post this on. > > I am currently running FreeBSD 5.3, Postfix 2.0, and MySQL 4.1. I am now in the process of deciding which IMAP server to go with. I did originally install Courier-IMAP and played around with that, deinstalled it and then installed Cyrus-IMAP. > > My needs are basically: > > - Autocreation of mailboxes when either a user logs in for the first time to check his/her email, or when an email is sent to a new user. > > - Virtual domain hosting > > Security is of course another issue, as is ease of installation and maintenance. > > I know most people have their favorites and stand by them, but from an objective standpoint which IMAP server would meet my needs above? It also doesn't have to be either of the two I tried; it could be one that I haven't even looked at yet. all the imap servers you mentioned (cyrus and courier) meet your (very basic) requirements. i would go with courier, its easy to maintain, stable, fast and has never let me down (even in mid-scale environments und load)... if your mail system is really huge i definitely would go with cyrus - it scales best, is fast but has this "blackbox" attitude (dont uses the std. maildir format but proprietary mail-spools etc.). also worth mentioning is dovecot, altough i have never used it. ive heard so much good about it that ill give it a try in the future if i find the time. anyway, courier is my main choice when it comes to imap daemons and im very happy with it...i also maintain some cyrus boxes but sometimes tweaking them with the cyrus-own admin tools can be a pain in the ass. > > Thanks in advance! > > Stephen Matlick > Corwin Distributors > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > !DSPAM:4255e211974152011514228! > -- mfg. christian damm technische leitung phone: dw 42 email: christian.damm@diewebmaster.at icq at work: 124464652 die webmaster - flötzerweg 156 - 4030 linz - austria phone: +43-732-381242, fax: +43-732-381242-22, isdn (leonardo): +43-732-381242-33 homepage: www.diewebmaster.at, public email: office@diewebmaster.at From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 8 08:57:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 223C116A4CE for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 08:57:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from proton.imperitas.net (proton.imperitas.net [217.112.92.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F20843D3F for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 08:57:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rob@wasteground.co.uk) Received: from [212.9.98.1] (helo=[192.168.1.69]) by proton.imperitas.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.43 (FreeBSD)) id 1DJpGs-000Eo4-Ea; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 09:55:26 +0100 Message-ID: <42564755.5020007@wasteground.co.uk> Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 09:56:53 +0100 From: Rob Parker User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matt Ruzicka References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "proton.imperitas.net", hasmessagelabel similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: DWMail http://www.dominion-web.com/products/dwmail/ a MySQL backend (if required) for it's calendaring and contact list functions. I use it in several environments with fairly large volumes of users, and it performs well, looks nice, and is easy to configure/manage. One thing - I've had problems using a windows-based iMail IMAP server with it, but I put this down to iMail being quite perfectly with Courier, and I've heard it works perfectly with Cyrus and UW as well. DWMail costs, but it is fairly cheap (sub-100GBP), and the support provided is excellent, if you need it. [...] Content analysis details: (-1.3 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description --------------------------------------------------1% [score: 0.0000] SMTP [212.9.98.1 listed in combined.njabl.org]white-list cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Webmail Recommendations X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 08:57:04 -0000 DWMail http://www.dominion-web.com/products/dwmail/ It's fairly lightweight (similar requirements to Squirrel), and uses a MySQL backend (if required) for it's calendaring and contact list functions. I use it in several environments with fairly large volumes of users, and it performs well, looks nice, and is easy to configure/manage. One thing - I've had problems using a windows-based iMail IMAP server with it, but I put this down to iMail being quite poor in it's IMAP support more than anything else - it works perfectly with Courier, and I've heard it works perfectly with Cyrus and UW as well. DWMail costs, but it is fairly cheap (sub-100GBP), and the support provided is excellent, if you need it. Rob. Matt Ruzicka wrote: >I've seen this has gone back and forth in the past, but I didn't see much >jumping out at me since 2003 in the searchable archives. I'm wondering >what the current temperature of webmail software was. > >We are currently using SquirrelMail and although we are largely quite >happy there are a number of minor oddities that are causing our more >sensitive customers no end of frustration. Seeing as it appears about 25% >of our customers use our webmail at least occasionally we're looking at >potentially shifting gears in the not too distant future. > >What are other using and how happy are they with them? Looks like Horde >and Open WebMail are still running reasonably strong, though I have never >interacted with either of them. Are there new or recently re-emerged >packages out there? > >Unfortunately we are looking for something with a reasonably slick >interface (SquirrelMail is maybe lacking in this department a bit), as >well as a solid backend. As we all know people only care if they notice >the backend causes them problems, but almost everyone seems to care how >something looks. > >Thanks in advance for any input. > >Matthew Ruzicka - Systems Administrator >Front Range Internet, Inc. >matt@frii.net - (970) 212-0728 > >Got SPAM? Take back your email with MailArmory. http://www.MailArmory.com >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 8 09:04:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CBAD16A55A for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 09:04:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.t50.ru (ns4.t50.ru [81.89.65.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 025CD43D2F for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 09:04:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from karjagin@narod.ru) Received: from richi.teleintercom.ru ([81.89.64.105]) by smtp.t50.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DJpPe-0006sK-Mf for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 13:04:30 +0400 Message-ID: <4256492B.6050503@narod.ru> Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 13:04:43 +0400 From: Andrey Karyagin Organization: ZAO "Teleintercom" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; ru-RU; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040618 X-Accept-Language: ru-ru, ru, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.84.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060503020208060505020109" X-Scan-Signature: 3646c2b95e19a210e898fd8cab716ae7 Subject: [Fwd: Re: HP DL-360 and panic reboot] X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 09:04:35 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060503020208060505020109 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, freebsd-isp! Problem solved by reprogramming ROM-BIOS of server to version from 03/03/2005 - the old version was from 23/06/2004 http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?locale=en_US&taskId=110&prodSeriesId=316558&prodTypeId=15351&objectID=PSD_EL040429_CW02 --------------060503020208060505020109 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="[OBORONA-SPAM] Re: HP DL-360 and panic reboot" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="[OBORONA-SPAM] Re: HP DL-360 and panic reboot" Received: from mx21.yandex.ru ([213.180.200.21]:2946 "EHLO mx21.yandex.ru" smtp-auth: ) by mail.yandex.ru with ESMTP id ; Fri, 1 Apr 2005 14:54:25 +0400 Received: from mx2.freebsd.org ([216.136.204.119]:18790 "EHLO mx2.freebsd.org" smtp-auth: TLS-CIPHER: TLS-PEER-CN1: ) by mail.yandex.ru with ESMTP id S979862AbVDAKyT (ORCPT ); Fri, 1 Apr 2005 14:54:19 +0400 Received-SPF: pass (mx21.yandex.ru: domain of freebsd.org designates 216.136.204.119 as permitted sender, widemask) client-ip=216.136.204.119; envelope-from=owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; helo=mx2.freebsd.org;, widemask Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4F6555E0B; Fri, 1 Apr 2005 10:53:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01F9016A4EF; Fri, 1 Apr 2005 10:53:42 +0000 (GMT) Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7921716A4CE for ; Fri, 1 Apr 2005 10:53:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.t50.ru (ns4.t50.ru [81.89.65.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAA5D43D2F for ; Fri, 1 Apr 2005 10:53:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from karjagin@narod.ru) Received: from richi.teleintercom.ru ([81.89.64.105]) by smtp.t50.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DHJmO-0002gd-DI for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2005 14:53:32 +0400 Message-ID: <424D283E.9020501@narod.ru> Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 14:53:50 +0400 From: Andrey Karyagin Organization: ZAO "Teleintercom" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; ru-RU; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040618 X-Accept-Language: ru-ru, ru, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org References: <4243B7AB.4020308@narod.ru> <20050326003538.GE13396@seven.alameda.net> In-Reply-To: <20050326003538.GE13396@seven.alameda.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.84.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Scan-Signature: fed18c83bd1b1b0a681ac059307c67cb Subject: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: HP DL-360 and panic reboot X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Oborona-Spam-Flag: YES Ulf Zimmermann пишет: >On Fri, Mar 25, 2005 at 10:03:07AM +0300, Andrey Karyagin wrote: > > >> <>Hello! >> I have a server HP DL-360 (1 x iXeon-2,8 Ghz (max 2 CPU), 1,5 Gb RAM, >> SCSI RAID 36,6 Gb (ciss driver)). Installed system is FreeBSD >> 4.10-STABLE. >> Some days ago the server starting panic reboot. The period of normal >> working is 24 hours plus/minus 15-20 minutes. As by cron, but cron is >> more stable and doesn't call panic reboot :-) >> May be somebody met with such problem? What can I do to solve this >> problem? > >> I would recommend to boot the SmartStart CD and run the diagnostic<> util to see if you have a memory problem. Hello, freebsd-isp. Boot from SmartStart CD, test all the hardware by all tests - all tests is Ok. Open the server case and try to re-put RAM cards to slots. CVS update to FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE - nothing helped. Server from boot/reboot works 23 hour and 55 minutes and then panic reboot. _______________________________________________ freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --------------060503020208060505020109-- From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 8 14:06:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35D1816A4CE for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 14:06:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from beer.ux6.net (beer.ux6.net [64.62.253.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0740043D1F for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 14:06:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from miha@ghuug.org) Received: from [64.62.253.84] (helo=m) by beer.ux6.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.44 (FreeBSD)) id 1DJu8E-000C4n-8Z; Fri, 08 Apr 2005 07:06:55 -0700 From: "Mikhail P." To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 14:06:07 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <12848a3b05040301115bba0d74@mail.gmail.com> <200504081116.21724.bikrant@wlink.com.np> In-Reply-To: <200504081116.21724.bikrant@wlink.com.np> Organization: Ghana Unix Users Group MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200504081406.07663.miha@ghuug.org> X-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "beer.ux6.net", hasmessagelabel similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details.wrote: > We have been using qpsmtpd in our mx for almost 2 years now. It is high in terms of > cpu and memory usage. > > It checks for: > > early resolve > tarpit limit > badmailfrom > badrcptto > dnsbl > recipient verification from radius for local domains > spamassassin > grey listing > > and lot more. [...] Content analysis details: (-5.9 points, 6.0 required) pts rule name description -------------------------------------------------- -3.3 ALL_TRUSTED Did not pass through any untrusted hosts 1% [score: 0.0000] cc: Bikrant Neupane cc: vaida bogdan Subject: Re: mail software for freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: miha@ghuug.org List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 14:06:57 -0000 On Friday 08 April 2005 05:31, Bikrant Neupane wrote: > We have been using qpsmtpd in our mx for almost 2 years now. It is written > in perl and is modular but resource utilization is very high in terms of > cpu and memory usage. > > It checks for: > > early talkers > spam helo > max limit to unrecognized commands > dns resolve > tarpit limit > badmailfrom > badrcptto > dnsbl > recipient verification from radius for local domains > spamassassin > grey listing > > and lot more. You could try "qmail-spp" addon to qmail - it is able to perform most of the above, and it is written in C and uses much less resources. I happily used it a lot before migrating to exim. WWW: http://qmail-spp.sourceforge.net/ regards, M. From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 8 21:38:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 534B516A4CE for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 21:38:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from meisai.numachi.com (meisai.numachi.com [198.175.254.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 67F1D43D2D for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2005 21:38:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from reichert@numachi.com) Received: (qmail 9885 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2005 21:38:41 -0000 Received: from natto.numachi.com (198.175.254.216) by meisai.numachi.com with SMTP; 8 Apr 2005 21:38:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 11798 invoked by uid 1001); 8 Apr 2005 21:38:41 -0000 Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 17:38:41 -0400 From: Brian Reichert To: Christian Damm Message-ID: <20050408213841.GN44514@numachi.com> References: <20050408014416.22640.qmail@web209.biz.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <42563ED6.1070201@diewebmaster.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42563ED6.1070201@diewebmaster.at> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.8i cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org cc: Stephen Matlick Subject: Re: Which IMAP server to use for virtual hosting? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 21:38:43 -0000 On Fri, Apr 08, 2005 at 10:20:38AM +0200, Christian Damm wrote: > > > Stephen Matlick schrieb: > >I apologize up front if this is not the correct list to post this on. > > > >I am currently running FreeBSD 5.3, Postfix 2.0, and MySQL 4.1. I am now > >in the process of deciding which IMAP server to go with. I did > >originally install Courier-IMAP and played around with that, deinstalled > >it and then installed Cyrus-IMAP. > >My needs are basically: > > > >- Autocreation of mailboxes when either a user logs in for the first time > >to check his/her email, or when an email is sent to a new user. > > > >- Virtual domain hosting > > > >Security is of course another issue, as is ease of installation and > >maintenance. I've heard good things about 'binc', but I've never installed it. Just voicing that it might be an option... -- Brian Reichert 55 Crystal Ave. #286 Daytime number: (603) 434-6842 Derry NH 03038-1725 USA BSD admin/developer at large