From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 15 11:52:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51C4616A41F for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2005 11:52:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tdragnev@sistechnology.com) Received: from mail.sistechnology.com (torro.sistechnology.com [217.79.65.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DF5C43D45 for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2005 11:52:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tdragnev@sistechnology.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.sistechnology.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5A1346BF6; Mon, 15 Aug 2005 14:52:14 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.sistechnology.com ([217.79.65.130]) by localhost (torro [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07271-03; Mon, 15 Aug 2005 14:52:01 +0300 (EEST) Received: from nova.sistechnology.com (unknown [213.91.247.38]) by mail.sistechnology.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D4D646BF2; Mon, 15 Aug 2005 14:52:00 +0300 (EEST) From: Todor Dragnev Organization: SiS Technology To: mail@vickysh.wlink.com.np Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 14:51:43 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <200508132344.03380.mail@vickysh.wlink.com.np> In-Reply-To: <200508132344.03380.mail@vickysh.wlink.com.np> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200508151451.43337.tdragnev@sistechnology.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by the vKeeper at sistechnology.com Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and ip compression over slow links X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 11:52:26 -0000 You can use ports/net/vtun WWW: http://vtun.sourceforge.net/ On Saturday 13 August 2005 20:59, Vicky Shrestha wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to install FreeBSD gateways on two ends of a slow link and run > IP compression to save bandwidth. > > Any pointers ? -- Todor Dragnev SIS Technology LTD. Phone: +359 52 612214 Mobile: +359 88 8575941 ICQ: 7437366 Email: tdragnev@sistechnology.com From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 15 19:06:54 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD4A016A41F for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2005 19:06:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from troy@psknet.com) Received: from psknet.com (kennedy.psknet.com [63.171.251.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9789943D45 for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2005 19:06:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from troy@psknet.com) Received: from dilbert.psknet.com ([63.171.251.35]) by psknet.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.43 (FreeBSD)) id 1E4kIP-000JPl-PJ for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Mon, 15 Aug 2005 15:06:53 -0400 Message-ID: <4300E7CD.1040002@psknet.com> Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 15:06:53 -0400 From: Troy Settle User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Frontpage (yes, again) X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 19:06:55 -0000 I know this is the never-ending, never-solved problem, but once more, I find myself building a new server and running into the same old problems. FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE apache-2.0.54_2 frontpage-5.0.2.2635 mod_frontpage2-5.0.2.2635 Everything appears to be installed correctly (permissions, ownership, config files, etc), but I can not, for the life of me, get logged in via the FP client, or through the admin web page. Here's an excerpt from the logs: [notice] Apache/2.0.54 (FreeBSD) FrontPage/5.0.2.2635 configured -- resuming normal operations [client 63.171.251.35] user fpadmin: authentication failure for "/": Password Mismatch In the past (FreeBSD 4.x), I would replace libscrypt with libdescrypt. I'm not sure how to do this with FreeBSD 5, as I only see libcrypt and no libdescrypt or libscrypt. Then again, I'm not even sure if this is the problem, as all the executables I can find seem to be linked against /lib/libcrypt.so.2, which would suggest that frontpage no longer cares if the passwords are MD5 or DES. Please advise. Thanks, -- Troy Settle Pulaski Networks 866.477.5638 http://www.psknet.com From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 16 07:39:57 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A20716A41F for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 07:39:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fatorro@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A68A643D45 for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 07:39:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fatorro@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 8so781206nzo for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 00:39:56 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=KPVlEFcGaHmpCPy+C6z+f/PTYNyEkHY0D6TRf3JV38I7rE4DaYj2NiJ45S++Wiwml12jQgSt5re7tSJdTzNnT+qnbVWbKphPtM5Qf2EamoahrzbeX9lu/YVr7DjbNAKjIq7M7J/6NxeuqoPLygFNRhMhcMNN+SdYTHYKxqnw0kU= Received: by 10.36.222.70 with SMTP id u70mr5034860nzg; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 00:39:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.9.5 with HTTP; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 00:39:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2e5ed0aa05081600396b168ee3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 09:39:56 +0200 From: Fatman To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Qpopper + drac + sendmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 07:39:57 -0000 Some mail accounts return this error message: ERR [SYS/PERM] Unable to process From lines (envelopes) qpopper I delete the account, and re-create it. Works fine. Why this error? THKX a lot!! From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 16 19:14:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53DF016A41F for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 19:14:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FDALESSA@TAMPABAY.RR.COM) Received: from ms-smtp-01.tampabay.rr.com (ms-smtp-01-smtplb.tampabay.rr.com [65.32.5.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B307243D53 for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 19:14:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FDALESSA@TAMPABAY.RR.COM) Received: from gtesystems (60-226.207-68.tampabay.res.rr.com [68.207.226.60]) by ms-smtp-01.tampabay.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id j7GJE1Eg015643 for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 15:14:01 -0400 (EDT) From: "FRANK DALESSANDRO" To: Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 15:13:59 -0400 Message-ID: <003801c5a296$a8d96220$67e9fcc0@gtesystems> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Question about Compaq DL360 G1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 19:14:05 -0000 Do you know what the DIP switch settings would be for the eight-position DIP switch right to the left of the DIMM sockets? The label inside the DL360 explains only what the six-position DIP switch does (system configuration switch) and I accidently played with the eight-position one and did not document the original settings. Thank you, Frank Dalessandro From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 16 21:02:53 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1C0C16A41F for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 21:02:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from henrik.lidstrom@digidoc.com) Received: from smtp.digidoc.com (smtp.digidoc.com [62.20.119.172]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3305743D46 for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 21:02:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from henrik.lidstrom@digidoc.com) Received: from digidoc.com ([62.20.119.170]) by smtp.digidoc.com (SMSSMTP 4.1.0.19) with SMTP id M2005081623031500607 for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 23:03:15 +0200 Received: from [62.20.119.142] ([62.20.119.142]) by digidoc.com (extmsg01-prod.digidoc.com) (MDaemon.PRO.v7.2.2.R) with ESMTP id md50000739194.msg for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 23:02:16 +0200 Message-ID: <43025472.1050103@digidoc.com> Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 23:02:42 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Henrik_Lidstr=F6m?= Organization: DigiDoc Networks AB User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FRANK DALESSANDRO References: <003801c5a296$a8d96220$67e9fcc0@gtesystems> In-Reply-To: <003801c5a296$a8d96220$67e9fcc0@gtesystems> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Processed: extmsg01-prod.digidoc.com, Tue, 16 Aug 2005 23:02:16 +0200 (not processed: message from valid local sender) X-MDRemoteIP: 62.20.119.142 X-Return-Path: henrik.lidstrom@digidoc.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question about Compaq DL360 G1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: henrik.lidstrom@digidoc.com List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 21:02:54 -0000 FRANK DALESSANDRO wrote: > Do you know what the DIP switch settings would be for the eight-position DIP > switch right to the left of the DIMM sockets? The label inside the DL360 > explains only what the six-position DIP switch does (system configuration > switch) and I accidently played with the eight-position one and did not > document the original settings. > > Thank you, > > Frank Dalessandro > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Hmm, the "system configuration switch" only has 6 DIPs. You were playing with the other one. Dont know what it does, but mine are 1 DOWN 2 DOWN 3 UP 4 UP 5 UP 6 UP 7 UP 8 UP System configuration switch: 1 DOWN 2 DOWN 3 UP 4 DOWN 5 DOWN 6 DOWN Hope you understand :) /Henrik From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 16 21:57:59 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26E8416A41F for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 21:57:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from troy@psknet.com) Received: from psknet.com (kennedy.psknet.com [63.171.251.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A934D43D46 for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 21:57:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from troy@psknet.com) Received: from dilbert.psknet.com ([63.171.251.35]) by psknet.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.43 (FreeBSD)) id 1E59RV-000FRl-Pp for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 17:57:57 -0400 Message-ID: <43026165.6020604@psknet.com> Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 17:57:57 -0400 From: Troy Settle User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org References: <4300E7CD.1040002@psknet.com> In-Reply-To: <4300E7CD.1040002@psknet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Frontpage (yes, again) X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 21:57:59 -0000 Nevermind... rolled back to Apache13, and FP installed without a hitch (even with SSL now!). I guess RTR hasn't gotten their crap together for Apache2 yet. Thanks, -- Troy Settle Pulaski Networks 866.477.5638 http://www.psknet.com Troy Settle wrote: > > I know this is the never-ending, never-solved problem, but once more, I > find myself building a new server and running into the same old problems. > > FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE > apache-2.0.54_2 > frontpage-5.0.2.2635 > mod_frontpage2-5.0.2.2635 > > Everything appears to be installed correctly (permissions, ownership, > config files, etc), but I can not, for the life of me, get logged in via > the FP client, or through the admin web page. Here's an excerpt from > the logs: > > [notice] Apache/2.0.54 (FreeBSD) FrontPage/5.0.2.2635 configured -- > resuming normal operations > [client 63.171.251.35] user fpadmin: authentication failure for "/": > Password Mismatch > > In the past (FreeBSD 4.x), I would replace libscrypt with libdescrypt. > I'm not sure how to do this with FreeBSD 5, as I only see libcrypt and > no libdescrypt or libscrypt. > > Then again, I'm not even sure if this is the problem, as all the > executables I can find seem to be linked against /lib/libcrypt.so.2, > which would suggest that frontpage no longer cares if the passwords are > MD5 or DES. > > Please advise. > > Thanks, > > -- > Troy Settle > Pulaski Networks > 866.477.5638 > http://www.psknet.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 17 06:06:25 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D9C616A41F; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 06:06:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from karjagin@narod.ru) Received: from mail.teleintercom.ru (ns4.t50.ru [81.89.65.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B04143D46; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 06:06:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from karjagin@narod.ru) Received: from richi.teleintercom.ru ([81.89.64.105]) by mail.teleintercom.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.50 (FreeBSD)) id 1E5H4A-000Pcr-A6; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 10:06:22 +0400 Message-ID: <4302D401.6030906@narod.ru> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 10:06:57 +0400 From: Andrey Karyagin Organization: ZAO "Teleintercom" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; ru-RU; rv:1.7.11) Gecko/20050728 X-Accept-Language: ru-ru, ru, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scan-Signature: e3476c6a5883e44276ba75e4b5efb59a Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: CVS_Upgrade from 5.3 to 5.4 problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 06:06:25 -0000 Hello. Yesterday I try to full upgrade my server from 5.3-STABLE to 5.4-STABLE. I made it with instructions from http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html Everything was ok, before "make installworld", that I make in SingleUser mode. I get an error: # make installworld mkdir -p /tmp/install.XVdiLEJX for prog in [ awk cap_mkdb cat chflags chmod chown date echo egrep find grep ln make mkdir mtree mv pwd_mkdb rm sed sh sysctl test true uname wc zic; do cp `which $prog` /tmp/install.XVdiLEJX; done cd /usr/src; MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj MACHINE_ARCH=i386 MACHINE=i386 CPUTYPE= GROFF_BIN_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/bin GROFF_FONT_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/groff_font GROFF_TMAC_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/tmac PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/games:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/games:/tmp/install.XVdiLEJX make -f Makefile.inc1 reinstall make: Permission denied *** Error code 126 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. What does it mean? May be somebody have such problems? Thank you for your help! From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 17 08:41:18 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C8AF16A41F for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 08:41:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from premal.mishra@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C618743D49 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 08:41:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from premal.mishra@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i22so109128wra for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 01:41:17 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=EZXLNSXr6YsN+SwqcFdQa9npykngGu1UsE1BEFlbs7amQrSu55ntd2vR2z+/bV7RHpoQ9QLE0spIN+2PLsckXGtrp6bZzaXen1dtlUjkNhJxbxhnDvJN0KIda50T7nvcRAEaRIfKgCGfAl3AnFZI9fI5biU0EbR81FuDJ9c9a1M= Received: by 10.54.153.7 with SMTP id a7mr281997wre; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 01:41:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.7.18 with HTTP; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 01:41:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2211edca0508170141c9a60f8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 14:11:17 +0530 From: Premal Mishra To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: cannot connect to internet X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 08:41:18 -0000 Hi, New to FreeBSD, Windows Backround . I connect to the internet via a LAN connection to my ISP.=20 Have successfully installed my LAN Card and its up n running(Can see the Device status 'UP' and Link status 'Active' on runniong ifconfig). I have set the ip of the interface, gateway address and DNS Server names al= so. default route is also set appropriately in /etc/rc.conf.=20 I can ping the Gateway IP but not the DNS server IP. What may be the problem? Regards, Premal. From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 17 09:05:39 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 429B316A41F; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 09:05:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bkoenig@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from efacilitas.de (smtp.efacilitas.de [85.10.196.108]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D481443D55; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 09:05:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bkoenig@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from eurystheus.local (port-212-202-37-251.dynamic.qsc.de [212.202.37.251]) by efacilitas.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DD694B056; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 11:11:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.67] (eurystheus.local [192.168.1.67]) by eurystheus.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id D46A41929F1; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 11:05:20 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4302FDCF.7000607@cs.tu-berlin.de> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 11:05:19 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?QmrDtnJuIEvDtm5pZw==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050517 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org To: Andrey Karyagin References: <4302D401.6030906@narod.ru> In-Reply-To: <4302D401.6030906@narod.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CVS_Upgrade from 5.3 to 5.4 problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 09:05:39 -0000 Hello, just a wild guess: do you set noexec on /tmp? Show mount and df -ih. Björn From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 17 09:40:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B37D216A41F for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 09:40:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from blake@yfug.yumaed.org) Received: from yfug.yumaed.org (yfug.yumaed.org [204.118.103.170]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D94243D48 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 09:40:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from blake@yfug.yumaed.org) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (70-32-188-8.losaca.adelphia.net [70.32.188.8]) by yfug.yumaed.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFEB2315; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 02:42:47 -0700 (MST) In-Reply-To: <2211edca0508170141c9a60f8@mail.gmail.com> References: <2211edca0508170141c9a60f8@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v734) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Covarrubias Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 02:40:28 -0700 To: Premal Mishra X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.734) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cannot connect to internet X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 09:40:31 -0000 Can you ping past your gateway? Like to address 4.2.2.2? Make sure you have your netmask set correctly, and that you are using working DNS resolvers (such as 4.2.2.1 and 4.2.2.2). -- Blake Covarrubias On Aug 17, 2005, at 1:41 AM, Premal Mishra wrote: > Hi, > > New to FreeBSD, Windows Backround . > > I connect to the internet via a LAN connection to my ISP. > > Have successfully installed my LAN Card and its up n running(Can see > the Device status 'UP' and Link status 'Active' on runniong ifconfig). > > I have set the ip of the interface, gateway address and DNS Server > names also. > > default route is also set appropriately in /etc/rc.conf. > > I can ping the Gateway IP but not the DNS server IP. > > What may be the problem? > > Regards, > Premal. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 17 11:25:17 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7015516A41F for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 11:25:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from mh1.centtech.com (moat3.centtech.com [207.200.51.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F81E43D46 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 11:25:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from [10.177.171.220] (neutrino.centtech.com [10.177.171.220]) by mh1.centtech.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j7HBPGLr002485; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 06:25:16 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Message-ID: <43031EAF.4050306@centtech.com> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 06:25:35 -0500 From: Eric Anderson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.10) Gecko/20050815 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Premal Mishra References: <2211edca0508170141c9a60f8@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2211edca0508170141c9a60f8@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.82/1029/Wed Aug 17 05:01:16 2005 on mh1.centtech.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cannot connect to internet X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 11:25:17 -0000 Premal Mishra wrote: > Hi, > > New to FreeBSD, Windows Backround . > > I connect to the internet via a LAN connection to my ISP. > > Have successfully installed my LAN Card and its up n running(Can see > the Device status 'UP' and Link status 'Active' on runniong ifconfig). > > I have set the ip of the interface, gateway address and DNS Server names also. > > default route is also set appropriately in /etc/rc.conf. > > I can ping the Gateway IP but not the DNS server IP. > > What may be the problem? Maybe there is a firewall between you and the DNS server, or the DNS server is set to not return pings? Can you traceroute to your DNS server, and post the results? Also - posting your ifconfig -a information would be helpful. Eric -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Eric Anderson Sr. Systems Administrator Centaur Technology Anything that works is better than anything that doesn't. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 17 11:29:11 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2B5916A41F; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 11:29:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from mh1.centtech.com (moat3.centtech.com [207.200.51.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5067143D55; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 11:29:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from [10.177.171.220] (neutrino.centtech.com [10.177.171.220]) by mh1.centtech.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j7HBT9bc002500; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 06:29:10 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Message-ID: <43031F98.4070703@centtech.com> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 06:29:28 -0500 From: Eric Anderson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.10) Gecko/20050815 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrey Karyagin References: <4302D401.6030906@narod.ru> In-Reply-To: <4302D401.6030906@narod.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.82/1029/Wed Aug 17 05:01:16 2005 on mh1.centtech.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CVS_Upgrade from 5.3 to 5.4 problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 11:29:11 -0000 Andrey Karyagin wrote: > Hello. > Yesterday I try to full upgrade my server from 5.3-STABLE to 5.4-STABLE. > I made it with instructions from > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html > Everything was ok, before "make installworld", that I make in SingleUser > mode. > I get an error: > > # make installworld > mkdir -p /tmp/install.XVdiLEJX > for prog in [ awk cap_mkdb cat chflags chmod chown date echo egrep find > grep ln make mkdir mtree mv pwd_mkdb rm sed sh sysctl test true uname > wc zic; do cp `which $prog` /tmp/install.XVdiLEJX; done > cd /usr/src; MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj MACHINE_ARCH=i386 MACHINE=i386 > CPUTYPE= GROFF_BIN_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/bin > GROFF_FONT_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/groff_font > GROFF_TMAC_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/tmac > PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/games:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/games:/tmp/install.XVdiLEJX > make -f Makefile.inc1 reinstall > make: Permission denied > *** Error code 126 Can you post the exact steps you went through to get to this point? I'm assuming somewhere in that path you remounted / rw? Eric -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Eric Anderson Sr. Systems Administrator Centaur Technology Anything that works is better than anything that doesn't. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 17 17:11:08 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61CBE16A41F for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 17:11:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ryansdwilson@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48E7C43D49 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 17:11:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ryansdwilson@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 8so142584nzo for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 10:11:04 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:subject:date:to:x-mailer:from; b=lzpQ+rndenbEOXgusF7SXRTddomO2rru+7DEF1LHNMzLcs8oy3wYVa7q13RqPdfP5eRWr6cBAQvCWijFHpUOobDGa4NPQ1btqDXy2oaP5GTPAeVsonz2rHBquwkeY8COYNHEtfcMTatiGNgoDPLMxpG9qW59bUdrEFCFM4V1pXQ= Received: by 10.36.158.12 with SMTP id g12mr616056nze; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 10:11:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?24.84.188.162? ([24.84.188.162]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c12sm1878419nzc.2005.08.17.10.11.00; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 10:11:04 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v733) In-Reply-To: <20050816120025.400F116A420@hub.freebsd.org> References: <20050816120025.400F116A420@hub.freebsd.org> Message-Id: Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 10:01:06 -0700 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.733) From: Ryan Wilson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: help X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 17:11:08 -0000 Ryan Wilson email@ryanwilson.com tel. 604-340-7926 www.ryanwilson.com On 16-Aug-05, at 5:00 AM, freebsd-isp-request@freebsd.org wrote: > Send freebsd-isp mailing list submissions to > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > freebsd-isp-request@freebsd.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > freebsd-isp-owner@freebsd.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of freebsd-isp digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Frontpage (yes, again) (Troy Settle) > 2. Qpopper + drac + sendmail (Fatman) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 15:06:53 -0400 > From: Troy Settle > Subject: Frontpage (yes, again) > To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > Message-ID: <4300E7CD.1040002@psknet.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > I know this is the never-ending, never-solved problem, but once > more, I > find myself building a new server and running into the same old > problems. > > FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE > apache-2.0.54_2 > frontpage-5.0.2.2635 > mod_frontpage2-5.0.2.2635 > > Everything appears to be installed correctly (permissions, ownership, > config files, etc), but I can not, for the life of me, get logged > in via > the FP client, or through the admin web page. Here's an excerpt from > the logs: > > [notice] Apache/2.0.54 (FreeBSD) FrontPage/5.0.2.2635 configured -- > resuming normal operations > [client 63.171.251.35] user fpadmin: authentication failure for "/": > Password Mismatch > > In the past (FreeBSD 4.x), I would replace libscrypt with libdescrypt. > I'm not sure how to do this with FreeBSD 5, as I only see libcrypt and > no libdescrypt or libscrypt. > > Then again, I'm not even sure if this is the problem, as all the > executables I can find seem to be linked against /lib/libcrypt.so.2, > which would suggest that frontpage no longer cares if the passwords > are > MD5 or DES. > > Please advise. > > Thanks, > > -- > Troy Settle > Pulaski Networks > 866.477.5638 > http://www.psknet.com > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 09:39:56 +0200 > From: Fatman > Subject: Qpopper + drac + sendmail > To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > Message-ID: <2e5ed0aa05081600396b168ee3@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Some mail accounts return this error message: > > ERR [SYS/PERM] Unable to process From lines (envelopes) qpopper > > I delete the account, and re-create it. Works fine. > > Why this error? > > THKX a lot!! > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > End of freebsd-isp Digest, Vol 126, Issue 2 > ******************************************* > From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 18 05:12:14 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D026116A41F; Thu, 18 Aug 2005 05:12:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from karjagin@narod.ru) Received: from mail.teleintercom.ru (ns4.t50.ru [81.89.65.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 359C243D45; Thu, 18 Aug 2005 05:12:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from karjagin@narod.ru) Received: from richi.teleintercom.ru ([81.89.64.105]) by mail.teleintercom.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.50 (FreeBSD)) id 1E5chJ-000K5F-0X; Thu, 18 Aug 2005 09:12:13 +0400 Message-ID: <430418D4.4050701@narod.ru> Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 09:12:52 +0400 From: Andrey Karyagin Organization: ZAO "Teleintercom" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; ru-RU; rv:1.7.11) Gecko/20050728 X-Accept-Language: ru-ru, ru, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org References: <4302D401.6030906@narod.ru> <4302FDCF.7000607@cs.tu-berlin.de> In-Reply-To: <4302FDCF.7000607@cs.tu-berlin.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Scan-Signature: 6e0584392f655f3aba0c8672f46feb89 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: CVS_Upgrade from 5.3 to 5.4 problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 05:12:15 -0000 Björn König пишет: > Hello, > > just a wild guess: do you set noexec on /tmp? Show mount and df -ih. Hello. You are right! I forgot that /tmp is mounted as noexec Thank you! > > Björn > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 19 16:59:37 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D812B16A420 for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 16:59:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ruben@bloemgarten.demon.nl) Received: from post-24.mail.nl.demon.net (post-24.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1C0F43D67 for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 16:59:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ruben@bloemgarten.demon.nl) Received: from axelds.demon.nl ([83.160.138.74]:57252 helo=abubbletprpdda) by post-24.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1E6ADD-0009Xp-41 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 16:59:23 +0000 From: "Ruben Bloemgarten" To: Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 18:58:27 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Thread-index: AcWk3zfZWUAjC+QYS46fPfYdWPkR6Q== Message-Id: <20050819165925.E1C0F43D67@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: migration from mysql 3.2.23 to 4.1.13 X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ruben@bloemgarten.demon.nl List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 16:59:38 -0000 Hi all,=20 =20 I need some help with a database migration and was hoping someone could = give me a tip or two. =20 I need to migrate a set of databases from a FBSD 5.2.1 /Mysql 3.2.23 = server to a FBSD 5.4 / mysql 4.1.13 machine. Now, I=92m aware that this is not = a FBSD issue but I was hoping that someone on this list might have dealt with = issue before. =20 Thanks,=20 =20 Ruben=20 --=20 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. 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(volfman@keystreams.com@10.8.0.6) by mailbox.keystreams.com with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 19 Aug 2005 10:33:16 -0700 Message-ID: <43061834.2090105@keystreams.com> Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 10:34:44 -0700 From: Roman Volf User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ruben@bloemgarten.demon.nl References: <20050819165925.E1C0F43D67@mx1.FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20050819165925.E1C0F43D67@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1250; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: migration from mysql 3.2.23 to 4.1.13 X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 17:34:48 -0000 Ruben Bloemgarten wrote: >Hi all, > > > >I need some help with a database migration and was hoping someone could give >me a tip or two. > > > >I need to migrate a set of databases from a FBSD 5.2.1 /Mysql 3.2.23 server >to a FBSD 5.4 / mysql 4.1.13 machine. Now, I’m aware that this is not a FBSD >issue but I was hoping that someone on this list might have dealt with issue >before. > > > >Thanks, > > > >Ruben > > > > Have you read http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/upgrading-from-3-23.html and http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/upgrading-from-4-0.html . I've used these and they helped tremendously upgrading to 4.1. -- Roman Volf Keystreams Internet Solutions volfman@keystreams.com From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 19 17:36:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB5F616A41F for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 17:36:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from james@jpri.com) Received: from gandalf.jpri.com (gandalf.jpri.com [69.57.152.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFAC343D7F for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 17:36:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from james@jpri.com) Received: (qmail 14120 invoked by uid 89); 20 Aug 2005 08:08:25 -0000 Received: from cpe240.txcyber.com (HELO jpri.com) (james@jpri.com@208.21.199.240) by gandalf.jpri.com with SMTP; 20 Aug 2005 08:08:25 -0000 Message-ID: <43061888.7040408@jpri.com> Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 12:36:08 -0500 From: James Ryan User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.5 (Windows/20040207) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ruben@bloemgarten.demon.nl References: <20050819165925.E1C0F43D67@mx1.FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20050819165925.E1C0F43D67@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1250; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: migration from mysql 3.2.23 to 4.1.13 X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 17:36:24 -0000 > I need to migrate a set of databases from a FBSD 5.2.1 /Mysql 3.2.23 server > to a FBSD 5.4 / mysql 4.1.13 machine. Now, I’m aware that this is not a FBSD > issue but I was hoping that someone on this list might have dealt with issue > before. Don't see why you couldn't use mysqldump... -- James Ryan Lead Developer, Systems Administrator Infinity Pro Sports http://www.infinityprosports.com From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 19 18:08:41 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC88E16A41F for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 18:08:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ruben@bloemgarten.demon.nl) Received: from post-24.mail.nl.demon.net (post-24.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 508F243D48 for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 18:08:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ruben@bloemgarten.demon.nl) Received: from axelds.demon.nl ([83.160.138.74]:34982 helo=abubbletprpdda) by post-24.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1E6BIG-000PYU-5y; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 18:08:40 +0000 From: "Ruben Bloemgarten" To: "'Roman Volf'" Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 20:07:44 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <43061834.2090105@keystreams.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Thread-index: AcWk5ExUY3k7d7fBQieZYLDdKrF4EwABEeOg Message-Id: <20050819180841.508F243D48@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: RE: migration from mysql 3.2.23 to 4.1.13 X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ruben@bloemgarten.demon.nl List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 18:08:41 -0000 Hi Roman,=20 I have read both those links. The thing is I'm not upgrading but = migrating from one system to another and was hoping to avoid having to install = 3.23 first to then upgrade to 4.0 and 4.1 respectively. Regards,=20 Ruben=20 -----Original Message----- From: Roman Volf [mailto:volfman@keystreams.com]=20 Sent: August 19, 2005 7:35 PM To: ruben@bloemgarten.demon.nl Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: migration from mysql 3.2.23 to 4.1.13 Ruben Bloemgarten wrote: >Hi all,=20 > >=20 > >I need some help with a database migration and was hoping someone could give >me a tip or two. > >=20 > >I need to migrate a set of databases from a FBSD 5.2.1 /Mysql 3.2.23 = server >to a FBSD 5.4 / mysql 4.1.13 machine. Now, I=92m aware that this is not = a FBSD >issue but I was hoping that someone on this list might have dealt with issue >before. > >=20 > >Thanks,=20 > >=20 > >Ruben=20 > > > =20 > Have you read http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/upgrading-from-3-23.html = and http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/upgrading-from-4-0.html . I've=20 used these and they helped tremendously upgrading to 4.1. --=20 Roman Volf Keystreams Internet Solutions volfman@keystreams.com --=20 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.12/77 - Release Date: = 08/18/2005 --=20 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.12/77 - Release Date: = 08/18/2005 =20 --=20 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.12/77 - Release Date: = 08/18/2005 =20 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 19 18:20:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5FF616A41F for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 18:20:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ruben@bloemgarten.demon.nl) Received: from post-24.mail.nl.demon.net (post-24.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BFAE43D45 for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 18:20:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ruben@bloemgarten.demon.nl) Received: from axelds.demon.nl ([83.160.138.74]:58278 helo=abubbletprpdda) by post-24.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1E6BTa-000Fyt-6Z; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 18:20:22 +0000 From: "Ruben Bloemgarten" To: "'James Ryan'" Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 20:19:26 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <43061888.7040408@jpri.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Thread-index: AcWk5IKRrIR3Vx1CSvekSsZcMRDriQABGhXw Message-Id: <20050819182023.4BFAE43D45@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: RE: migration from mysql 3.2.23 to 4.1.13 X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ruben@bloemgarten.demon.nl List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 18:20:23 -0000 Hi James,=20 That was the first thing I tried, unfortunately that does not work as = the way 3.23 deals with ISAM is different to 4.1 and so it spits out errors = when it runs into unrecognizable syntax. If you have managed to use mysqldump = for a migration I would very much appreciate hearing about it as it would simplify things conisderably. Regards,=20 Ruben=20 -----Original Message----- From: James Ryan [mailto:james@jpri.com]=20 Sent: August 19, 2005 7:36 PM To: ruben@bloemgarten.demon.nl Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: migration from mysql 3.2.23 to 4.1.13 > I need to migrate a set of databases from a FBSD 5.2.1 /Mysql 3.2.23 server > to a FBSD 5.4 / mysql 4.1.13 machine. Now, I=92m aware that this is = not a FBSD > issue but I was hoping that someone on this list might have dealt with issue > before. Don't see why you couldn't use mysqldump... --=20 James Ryan Lead Developer, Systems Administrator Infinity Pro Sports http://www.infinityprosports.com --=20 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.12/77 - Release Date: = 08/18/2005 --=20 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.12/77 - Release Date: = 08/18/2005 =20 --=20 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.12/77 - Release Date: = 08/18/2005 =20 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 19 18:37:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F1A816A41F for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 18:37:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mario@schmut.com) Received: from mail.schmut.com (dsl092-049-002.sfo4.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.49.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4C07C43D64 for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 18:37:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mario@schmut.com) Received: (qmail 84052 invoked by uid 89); 19 Aug 2005 18:37:25 -0000 Received: from schmut.com (snoopy.schmut.com [192.168.23.1]) by snoopy.schmut.com (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 11:37:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 192.168.23.8 (SquirrelMail authenticated user mario@schmut.com) by mail.schmut.com with HTTP; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 11:37:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49542.192.168.23.8.1124476640.squirrel@mail.schmut.com> Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 11:37:20 -0700 (PDT) To: In-Reply-To: <20050819182023.4BFAE43D45@mx1.FreeBSD.org> References: <43061888.7040408@jpri.com> <20050819182023.4BFAE43D45@mx1.FreeBSD.org> X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.9) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.0.3 (Seattle Slew) From: mario X-Primary-Address: mario@schmut.com Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, james@jpri.com Subject: RE: migration from mysql 3.2.23 to 4.1.13 X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mario List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 18:37:28 -0000 So, Ruben Bloemgarten wrote: > Hi James, > > That was the first thing I tried, unfortunately that does not work as > the way 3.23 deals with ISAM is different to 4.1 and so it spits out > errors when it runs into unrecognizable syntax. If you have managed to > use mysqldump for a migration I would very much appreciate hearing about > it as it would simplify things conisderably. was this using mysldump 3.23 or 4.1? they produce different results and i found one to work and the other not. i don't remember which did what but just try the version you haven't yet. then there is also http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/upgrading-from-3-23.html and then http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/upgrading-from-4-0.html looking at the docs, it seems, you need to do a bit more than just a dump. hope this helps. i remember going from 4.0 to 4.1 was already fun. mario;> From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 19 18:47:11 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8A0B16A41F for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 18:47:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ruben@bloemgarten.demon.nl) Received: from post-24.mail.nl.demon.net (post-24.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A86C43D53 for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 18:47:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ruben@bloemgarten.demon.nl) Received: from axelds.demon.nl ([83.160.138.74]:6055 helo=abubbletprpdda) by post-24.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1E6BtW-000JGi-DN; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 18:47:10 +0000 From: "Ruben Bloemgarten" To: Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 20:46:14 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <49542.192.168.23.8.1124476640.squirrel@mail.schmut.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Thread-index: AcWk7Q12pM+9TBUFRTegHYgy5WBMPAAAMn4w Message-Id: <20050819184711.8A86C43D53@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, james@jpri.com Subject: RE: migration from mysql 3.2.23 to 4.1.13 X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ruben@bloemgarten.demon.nl List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 18:47:12 -0000 Hi Mario, The dump was done on 3.23. I'll give 4.1 a try on that machine, sounds like a nice hack though,using mysqldump 4.1 on a 3.23 database. Thanks for the tip. Ruben -----Original Message----- From: mario [mailto:mario@schmut.com] Sent: August 19, 2005 8:37 PM To: ruben@bloemgarten.demon.nl Cc: james@jpri.com; freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: RE: migration from mysql 3.2.23 to 4.1.13 So, Ruben Bloemgarten wrote: > Hi James, > > That was the first thing I tried, unfortunately that does not work as > the way 3.23 deals with ISAM is different to 4.1 and so it spits out > errors when it runs into unrecognizable syntax. If you have managed to > use mysqldump for a migration I would very much appreciate hearing about > it as it would simplify things conisderably. was this using mysldump 3.23 or 4.1? they produce different results and i found one to work and the other not. i don't remember which did what but just try the version you haven't yet. then there is also http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/upgrading-from-3-23.html and then http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/upgrading-from-4-0.html looking at the docs, it seems, you need to do a bit more than just a dump. hope this helps. i remember going from 4.0 to 4.1 was already fun. mario;> -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.12/77 - Release Date: 08/18/2005 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.12/77 - Release Date: 08/18/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.12/77 - Release Date: 08/18/2005 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 19 20:17:39 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5422F16A41F for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 20:17:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from premal.mishra@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E765043D45 for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 20:17:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from premal.mishra@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so638834wra for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 13:17:38 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=nAW4Fu8xS+CzcvB69lgL1C2V78/mh2dmopWV1ft1aw4EHWwpJ8kG3Z4cjjR/V7dF/6D5n7fKkTa+assJA2N34EzICif4HRcsqw9ylZbWTz6AyQZNEWUyeRAXQtkZFEBwhpv+UosDsp6ldYLqk9Gi/KaXbp1ygOsksTrI/rwRW2w= Received: by 10.54.114.7 with SMTP id m7mr2085060wrc; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 13:17:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.7.18 with HTTP; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 13:17:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2211edca05081913172a14fffe@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 13:17:34 -0700 From: Premal Mishra To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: Cannot connect to Internet X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 20:17:39 -0000 Hi, after "route add default GATEWAY_IP", i could see defaultrouter=3D"GATEWAY_IP" in /etc/rc.conf. i could ping the gateway but no other ip. I tried using /usr/local/bin/links with some URL, i got a message looking up hostname but after some time got a "Request TimeOut". ifconfig -a shows up the following: =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D fxp0:flags=3D8843MTU 1500 inet 10.12.58.197 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.12.58.255 inet6 fe80:207:e9ff:fef6:6a00%fxp0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 ether 00:07:e9:f6:6a:00 media Ethernet autoselect(100BaseTx) status:Active plip0:flags=3D8810mtu 1500 lo0:flags=3D8049MTU 16384 inet 127.0.01 netmask 0xff000000 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet6 fe80:1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D TRACEROUTE to(DNS server) traceroute 202.144.66.6 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D traceroute to 202.144.66.6 (202.144.66.6) 64 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 10.40.254.1 (10.40.254.1) 4.175ms 2.033ms 2.237m= s 2 210.214.155.169 (210.214.155.169) 2.742ms 5.791ms 4.548ms 3 * * * 4 * * * 5 * * * =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D netstat -rn lists the default route appropriately for IPv4 but dont see any corresponding entry in the IPv6 route listing. Would like to mention that i have to go through a authentication process wherein i provide my username and password when i connect via windows. Also, i have been given two domain name server IPs (use both in windows) but i could use just one while configuring the interface with sysinstall utility in FreeBSD. In windows i can ping just one of the domain name server IPs and i'm using that very one in FreeBSD. Please see if something is missing. Regards, Premal. From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 19 21:58:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC3BC16A41F for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 21:58:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ovidiue@unixware.ro) Received: from mail2.websitesource.net (mail2.websitesource.net [64.40.144.139]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6F4EB43D46 for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 21:58:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ovidiue@unixware.ro) Received: (qmail 14278 invoked by uid 399); 19 Aug 2005 21:58:25 -0000 Received: from 86-124-82-045.iasi.cablelink.ro (HELO unixware.ro) (86.124.82.45) by mail2.websitesource.net with SMTP; 19 Aug 2005 21:58:25 -0000 Message-ID: <430656A8.5030103@unixware.ro> Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 01:01:12 +0300 From: Ovidiu Ene User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Load Balancing - Nice and Easy - no BGP, no isp help. X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 21:58:29 -0000 Hello friends I am trying for a while to make a load balancer under FreeBSD. No BGP support from isps! I would have: 3 nics, ISP1 nic, ISP2 nic and LAN nic. What i've done until now, after reading lots of posts, googling for a while: - I've suceeded to setup an outgoing load balancer with pf, it works perfectly but only for outgoing traffic; - I've noticed that almost everybody thing that it cannot be done load balancing with BSD of incoming and outgoing without help of that both ISP (BGP) - I find hardware with proprietary OS/firmware that can do load balancing without support of ISP. Some are cheap (300$), but at review does not know to load balance incoming traffic (break functionality of some pages accessed, since some of load is on one interface, some of other, works corectly only if i setup to come some type of traffic on one interface, some of other (for example trafic via port 80 on one nic, ftp traffic on the other), also are expensive hardware load balancers (over 1000$) that... i am asking myself how it works, without help of isp. - I've found somewhere that it can be done load balancing but not with one box with that 3 nics, but with 3 boxex, because (that article i am "insipring" said that every box has just one routing table) because can be created a virtual server that with handle routes from that 2 boxes. - People told me that in Linux load balancing cand be done, 3 nics, 2 external, one to Lan, with iptables. Here is a short article: http://linux.com.lb/wiki/index.pl?node=Load%20Balancing%20Across%20Multiple%20Links So, my question is, if some people made it (in expensive hardware that did have the same OS, maybe even FreeBSD, and proprietary algorythms) and in Linux it can be done (people told me, i've read articles and also so it here, where i live) why it cannot be done under FreeBSD? I guess it can be done, I want to do it with FreeBSD, and want to obtain same performances as with Linux. What is your opinion about that? What should I do? Anybody suceed in making load balancing work that way? Best Regards, Ovidiu ps. FreeBSD is the best! _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 19 23:44:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF7B916A41F for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 23:44:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jay.quest4@gmail.com) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B7E343D45 for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 23:44:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jay.quest4@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id r35so594515rna for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 16:44:30 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole; b=IuTqoh5CIwnEnYwXBxp67PU3iyAB48LnxvxpfnqA3Q/KUOOHbz6qCH2yuThwdOnupvTB2lz4NqbddM4ta6c0Ew1J+veqoCnC2jMig8vrIfzYlrXlQqqYCQ3pyaF+3CadIUro+NJOdyrXI4F3p35oTy2eA3NeX6qDPgqRudh3GCQ= Received: by 10.38.98.26 with SMTP id v26mr49499rnb; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 16:44:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 4BANKS ([4.226.249.129]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id r34sm7301987rna.2005.08.19.16.44.28; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 16:44:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <003f01c5a517$ee377590$81f9e204@4BANKS> From: "Jay Banks" To: Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 18:44:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Workarounds for blocked port 25 on outgoing e-mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 23:44:34 -0000 I have sendmail and popa3d up and running. Is there any way a person = could offer mail service to people on ISPs that block port 25 outbound from = their networks? I have seen solutions that use different ports, but I'm not = sure about doing this with what I have setup on FreeBSD. It seems like you = would just have to monitor port 25 and a predetermined port at the same time, = and then configure mail clients on the blocked network to send to the predetermined port instead of port 25. I bet everyone starting to block port 25 outside of their own networks really put the hurt on people offering POP3 accounts. I know I can't = send e-mail from my own mail server or the POP3 accounts that I pay money = for, from my house because of this. I have to use google's POP3 service = because it uses different ports for smtp. From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 20 03:23:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78AEB16A420 for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2005 03:23:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lashby@gmail.com) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0A5B43D49 for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2005 03:23:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lashby@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id r35so636794rna for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 20:23:42 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=POCAu7Vf8QPNCLSKhwp7tbWVeTaPKoJR5I+3MlHkEChApAFvqNEFH6o35RRdUgOt8pL+h/tMvlpAdUy3Y5So/ZOj4kSlJ0ZAbJEOk8MCdTFT2cdDPaEN/8ZyZOWC8IRN06oHxcWGHrLBlemWEtJ/3ixmcldhVGgGJl3MNy2YHOE= Received: by 10.38.161.25 with SMTP id j25mr423728rne; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 20:23:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.73.6 with HTTP; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 20:23:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <9cd98d120508192023154a689e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 22:23:42 -0500 From: Logan To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <003f01c5a517$ee377590$81f9e204@4BANKS> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <003f01c5a517$ee377590$81f9e204@4BANKS> Subject: Re: Workarounds for blocked port 25 on outgoing e-mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 03:23:43 -0000 On 8/19/05, Jay Banks wrote: > I have sendmail and popa3d up and running. Is there any way a person coul= d > offer mail service to people on ISPs that block port 25 outbound from the= ir > networks? Many people do. Most use the mail submission port, 587. Typically, authentication (to ensure that only their customers are relaying through their servers), is handled via SASL, with SSL usually thrown in the mix to keep from passing the auth info in plaintext. > I have seen solutions that use different ports, but I'm not sure > about doing this with what I have setup on FreeBSD. All the software you should need is in ports. > I bet everyone starting to block port 25 outside of their own networks > really put the hurt on people offering POP3 accounts.=20 POP3 access is a totally seperate issue. You can send mail through a completey different server and/or ISP than the one you use to download your mail. Your access provider should be able to handle outbound email for you with very little trouble. It's probably as easy as asking what they recommend as the outbound/smtp mailserver for you. > I know I can't send e-mail from my own mail server or the POP3 accounts t= hat I pay > money for,=20 If your email provider isn't offering some type of authenticated outbound service for you, I would seriously consider changing providers. It's quite simple, really. If you want to do it with a mail server that you host, configure it to smarthost through your provider's (email OR access) server. From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 20 06:03:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B19916A41F for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2005 06:03:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cody@wilkshire.net) Received: from mail.wilkshire.net (mail.wilkshire.net [12.111.120.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD26B43D46 for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2005 06:03:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cody@wilkshire.net) Received: (qmail 7632 invoked from network); 20 Aug 2005 03:03:07 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.102?) (12.111.122.84) by mail.wilkshire.net with SMTP; 20 Aug 2005 03:03:07 -0500 Message-ID: <4306C7BB.6050909@wilkshire.net> Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 02:03:39 -0400 From: Cody Baker User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Logan References: <003f01c5a517$ee377590$81f9e204@4BANKS> <9cd98d120508192023154a689e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9cd98d120508192023154a689e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Workarounds for blocked port 25 on outgoing e-mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 06:03:43 -0000 What Logan wrote was mostly true, port 587 is the recommended way of doing it, and SSL (TLS) is a recommended option for just about everything. Another, albeit far less popular, and much less supported option is to use IMAP to send mail. Courier-IMAP (I'm not sure about the others) has an option where messages placed in a special Outbox folder are automatically send by sendmail running locally on that server. This eliminates the issue of SMTP relaying entirely. The other challenge Logan touched on is verifying that your users are in fact allowed to be sending mail through your server. It may seem like common sense that you can't relay email through company xyz.net's SMTP server, but there's a couple things enforcing that. The most common way of authenticating customers is based upon their IP. If company xyz.net owns 111.222.333.x/24 then they simply allow relaying for any client inside that subnet. By this logic you could send a message from MyPersonalDomainHostedElsewhereOnTheNet.com through your broadband/dialup ISP's (xyz.net) email server and it would work. This is what Logan was suggesting in his last line there. UNFORTUNATELY there's a new kink in that plan. Sender Policy Framework (SPF) is designed specifically to detect and stop this kind of "forgery". It's a good standard and it's starting to become popular. Because of SPF there's rapidly increasing likelihood that your messages would be marked as spam and deleted if you followed this advice. Also some MTA's notably qmail, won't allow you to relay a message through if the From: field is not listed as an address local to that server. To send a message from MyPersonalDomainHostedElsewhereOnTheNet.com using MyPersonalDomainHostedElsewhereOnTheNet.com's SMTP Relay server you could authenticate the client in several ways: The easiest is mentioned above, if you're always at a particular IP then add it to the allow list and be done with it. Logan mentioned SASL ( http://asg.web.cmu.edu/sasl/ ), which while it would seem like a possibility is by no means the most popular method. SMTP-Auth is supported by all major email clients, (Outlook, Outlook Express, Mac Mail, Thunderbird, etc..), most MTA's (qmail, sendmail, etc.) and is the standard way of coping with this problem. The forth option, commonly called "SMTP after POP/IMAP" is a bit more of a hack in my opinion, but requires no additional configuration on the users end (excluding your change of port for users blocked by this nonsense). The idea with SMTP after POP is that most mail clients check for messages before sending a message. When a user successfully authenticates with your POP3 server, their IP is added to a database which lists valid email sources. The IP typically stays in the database for 24 hours or so. This is somewhat popular in the qmail/vpopmail world, although I believe there was a few sendmail folk doing it as well. We use defined subnets, SMTP-AUTH, and a variation of option four which couples the auth database with our Radius server. All 3 co-exist peacefully on the same SMTP relay server. If you have any questions about that specific implemention write back to cody@wilkshire.net and I'd be happy to help. It was my experience that sendmail built in to the base of FreeBSD isn't exactly ideal for these situations as it generally means coupling a few programs/scripts together and sendmail doesn't always play nice with this in its role as part of base. Also said, the ports system really shows its limits when you try to add options like SMTP-AUTH because matching an auth database, a qmail-smtpd patch, and a mess changes to startup scripts, etc.. isn't something ports will likely ever be able to just configure turn key, out of the box. Thank You, Cody Baker cody@wilkshire.net Logan wrote: >On 8/19/05, Jay Banks wrote: > > >>I have sendmail and popa3d up and running. Is there any way a person could >>offer mail service to people on ISPs that block port 25 outbound from their >>networks? >> >> > >Many people do. Most use the mail submission port, 587. Typically, >authentication (to ensure that only their customers are relaying >through their servers), is handled via SASL, with SSL usually thrown >in the mix to keep from passing the auth info in plaintext. > > > >> I have seen solutions that use different ports, but I'm not sure >>about doing this with what I have setup on FreeBSD. >> >> > >All the software you should need is in ports. > > > >>I bet everyone starting to block port 25 outside of their own networks >>really put the hurt on people offering POP3 accounts. >> >> > >POP3 access is a totally seperate issue. You can send mail through a >completey different server and/or ISP than the one you use to download >your mail. Your access provider should be able to handle outbound >email for you with very little trouble. It's probably as easy as >asking what they recommend as the outbound/smtp mailserver for you. > > > >>I know I can't send e-mail from my own mail server or the POP3 accounts that I pay >>money for, >> >> > >If your email provider isn't offering some type of authenticated >outbound service for you, I would seriously consider changing >providers. It's quite simple, really. If you want to do it with a >mail server that you host, configure it to smarthost through your >provider's (email OR access) server. >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 20 14:07:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C23416A41F for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2005 14:07:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from volfman@keystreams.com) Received: from mailbox.keystreams.com (mailbox.keystreams.com [207.158.28.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F10B543D46 for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2005 14:07:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from volfman@keystreams.com) Received: (qmail 60969 invoked by uid 1012); 20 Aug 2005 07:05:30 -0700 Received: from 10.8.0.6 by mail.keystreams.com (envelope-from , uid 1009) with qmail-scanner-1.25-st-qms (clamdscan: 0.86.2/1001. spamassassin: 3.0.4. perlscan: 1.25-st-qms. Clear:RC:0(10.8.0.6):SA:0(-5.9/5.0):. Processed in 1.388272 secs); 20 Aug 2005 14:05:30 -0000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.9 required=5.0 X-Antivirus-Keystreams-Mail-From: volfman@keystreams.com via mail.keystreams.com X-Antivirus-Keystreams: 1.25-st-qms (Clear:RC:0(10.8.0.6):SA:0(-5.9/5.0):. Processed in 1.388272 secs Process 60956) Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.8.0.6?) (volfman@keystreams.com@10.8.0.6) by mailbox.keystreams.com with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 20 Aug 2005 07:05:29 -0700 Message-ID: <43073906.20105@keystreams.com> Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 07:07:02 -0700 From: Roman Volf User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Cody Baker References: <003f01c5a517$ee377590$81f9e204@4BANKS> <9cd98d120508192023154a689e@mail.gmail.com> <4306C7BB.6050909@wilkshire.net> In-Reply-To: <4306C7BB.6050909@wilkshire.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Workarounds for blocked port 25 on outgoing e-mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 14:07:06 -0000 Cody Baker wrote: > What Logan wrote was mostly true, port 587 is the recommended way of > doing it, and SSL (TLS) is a recommended option for just about > everything. Another, albeit far less popular, and much less supported > option is to use IMAP to send mail. Courier-IMAP (I'm not sure about > the others) has an option where messages placed in a special Outbox > folder are automatically send by sendmail running locally on that > server. This eliminates the issue of SMTP relaying entirely. > > The other challenge Logan touched on is verifying that your users are > in fact allowed to be sending mail through your server. It may seem > like common sense that you can't relay email through company xyz.net's > SMTP server, but there's a couple things enforcing that. > > The most common way of authenticating customers is based upon their > IP. If company xyz.net owns 111.222.333.x/24 then they simply allow > relaying for any client inside that subnet. By this logic you could > send a message from MyPersonalDomainHostedElsewhereOnTheNet.com > through your broadband/dialup ISP's (xyz.net) email server and it > would work. This is what Logan was suggesting in his last line there. > UNFORTUNATELY there's a new kink in that plan. Sender Policy > Framework (SPF) is designed specifically to detect and stop this kind > of "forgery". It's a good standard and it's starting to become > popular. Because of SPF there's rapidly increasing likelihood that > your messages would be marked as spam and deleted if you followed this > advice. Also some MTA's notably qmail, won't allow you to relay a > message through if the From: field is not listed as an address local > to that server. FYI, this last comment about qmail is incorrect. There does exist a patch I believe that has this functionality, but it is by no means the default behavior of qmail. Qmail does not care where/from you sent a mail. It will accept it from any ip address listed in tcp.smtp and send it to wherever it needs to go, or it will except any email destined for its local domains from any IP. It does not check or even look at the FROM: address. > To send a message from MyPersonalDomainHostedElsewhereOnTheNet.com > using MyPersonalDomainHostedElsewhereOnTheNet.com's SMTP Relay server > you could authenticate the client in several ways: > > -- Roman Volf Keystreams Internet Solutions volfman@keystreams.com From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 20 14:20:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A68116A41F for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2005 14:20:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jay.quest4@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BB4143D46 for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2005 14:20:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jay.quest4@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i4so739504wra for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2005 07:20:27 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:from:to:references:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole; b=DYFpWcKgs23qouUKlxkAwKSlkEBFIit84tc2NYTQslJNEbd3hzL6n8iMjEn+Q3sQ0yP2s4yCyMN5V6OVJBDQtzjgWyb8zy1EpS+tWOCkyZlXhm7fF0s93hX5Wn19EuJKC+7UkykTUpFor2h9QxT57PeMMVj9ciI1Av1r9X3ad8w= Received: by 10.54.39.61 with SMTP id m61mr2760520wrm; Sat, 20 Aug 2005 07:20:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 4BANKS ([4.226.249.21]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 14sm4535104wrl.2005.08.20.07.20.18; Sat, 20 Aug 2005 07:20:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <003601c5a592$4965e530$15f9e204@4BANKS> From: "Jay Banks" To: References: <003f01c5a517$ee377590$81f9e204@4BANKS> <56484ca2cf96b4011c66d9146cc47e49@gothic.net.au> Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 09:20:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Subject: Re: Workarounds for blocked port 25 on outgoing e-mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 14:20:29 -0000 From: "Sean Winn" wrote: > You don't have to use your POP3 provider's SMTP server just to send > from their address. If you want to use their services (eg. they may do > archiving or reformatting with a standard footer or something similar) > that's the only necessity for using them. I don't quite understand what you are saying. I have multiple POP3 accounts with a virtual host and my servers at work, etc. I can get e-mail from them all day long, but every ISP I use blocks my attempts to send through them. I get "no socket" errors when I try and connect. Same thing for our company employees not physically located in our area. They can get e-mail from our server (MS Exchange for them) just fine, but none of them can send mail through it. Not because of something on my side, but because of the ISP they use. I would like to solve the problem for the above reasons, but it would also be nice to offer POP3 access to customers and know that they could use it from any location without having to resort to some web-based front end. > Port 587 is the mail submission port, and is supported by sendmail, > postfix, exim etc with little problems. The only client I'm aware of > that makes it difficult to use a different port is Eudora, and even > then they document a way of doing it (changing the eudora.ini file). I just played around with this for a little bit and it doesn't work for POP3 servers through esosoft.com. Not sure if it is them or my ISP, though. Doug Hardie wrote: > Blocking external use of port 25 is a simple, but misguided, approach > to spam control. It creates too many problems for people who are > properly using mail. The better approach is to require the use of > SMTP-AUTH (preferrably with TLS) before permitting any mail routing. > If all MTAs did that there would be no need to block port 25. I talked to the guy at my ISP about why they do this. Maybe I will e-mail him and get him to explain his rational for this and forward it here. If I remember correctly, it is because users (they have over 3000) are finding open mail relays and SPAMing through them. So even though the SPAM didn't go through their mail servers, the ISP's IP address showing up in the headers of SPAM are getting them threatened by blacklist services. Now maybe you could blame this on SPAM, but you also have to see the danger of blacklists here. After all, it wasn't my ISPs fault that someone else left an open relay on the Net. The blacklists maintainers should be going after the open relay, not the ISP, in my opinion. Logan wrote: > Your access provider should be able to handle outbound > email for you with very little trouble. It's probably as easy as > asking what they recommend as the outbound/smtp mailserver > for you. Honestly, there is a way around this. My ISP can add the IP address of my hosted POP3 servers into a permit list. It took me weeks, however, to get them to do this. It worked for about a week, and then I guess they backed up, restored something, or upgraded something, and it quit working. I got tired of jacking with them and just started using Google's POP3 server for outbound e-mail, which used a different port than port 25. I pay money for POP3 accounts that come with some hosted web pages, however, and I would like to be able to use them. I asked the DSL providers of one of our employees in another town to unblock port 25 for that employee... and the guy **laughed** at me. Cody Baker wrote: > The forth option, commonly called "SMTP after POP/IMAP" is > a bit more of a hack in my opinion, but requires no additional > configuration on the users end That is what I setup with my sendmail/popa3d configuration. And honestly, after looking at the alternatives, this seemed to be the easiest route to go. It took me about half a day to figure it out. This is also what my hosted POP3 accounts use, as I have to check e-mail before I can send it through them, too. Honestly, looking at some of the other solutions made my eyes cross a little bit. :) Thanks Jay Banks From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 20 14:44:01 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6C0B16A41F for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2005 14:44:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jay.quest4@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77B4A43D53 for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2005 14:44:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jay.quest4@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i22so678002wra for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2005 07:44:00 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:from:to:references:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole; b=MPDBNfs+SyU3sj8+tTTqHgijQ7/CQfFr60PwMaks1BZKThIrTv97OA2ObelW8M0rfrbUFarPirAlDVQ1Gq4fguNJhBIna+6/GRYXeEyTUx21X+EaY+uHXpHNeTgEQl6oh6gnH8gIkHe8W/rlDXeyX4PFDA2PRhKN4xNPnNyN4oU= Received: by 10.54.114.7 with SMTP id m7mr2733108wrc; Sat, 20 Aug 2005 07:44:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 4BANKS ([4.226.249.21]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 38sm71349wrl.2005.08.20.07.43.59; Sat, 20 Aug 2005 07:44:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <006401c5a595$96a84f10$15f9e204@4BANKS> From: "Jay Banks" To: References: <003f01c5a517$ee377590$81f9e204@4BANKS> <56484ca2cf96b4011c66d9146cc47e49@gothic.net.au> Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 09:43:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Subject: Re: Workarounds for blocked port 25 on outgoing e-mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 14:44:02 -0000 From: "Sean Winn" wrote: > Port 587 is the mail submission port, and is supported by sendmail, > postfix, exim etc with little problems. The only client I'm aware of > that makes it difficult to use a different port is Eudora, and even > then they document a way of doing it (changing the eudora.ini file). I played around with this some more and it does work! Thanks so much. This solved a long standing problem of mine. I did try it with my FreeBSD sendmail/popa3d setup (with smtp before POP authentication turned on), however, and I get: Relaying denied', Port: 587, Secure(SSL): No, Server Error: 550, Error Number: 0x800CCC79 I guess I'm going to have to research and do some configuration to get it to work? Now if I could get our Exchange server to do this, I could make a lot of our employees happy. Thanks guys! Jay Banks From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 20 17:51:39 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3B5816A41F for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2005 17:51:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lashby@gmail.com) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D75143D45 for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2005 17:51:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lashby@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id r35so728889rna for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2005 10:51:38 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=kOwNDyg8bksQU2YYIM36nRUhFJiXTHFglwn+jWczB73j2acMmmklo8VsUo8mjsBaGaTnwO3eM2k7lSiSmWTGh4pgbG1dFr41/LOhgoIopzlvJj9Q6/FZ3Az61CfMmkkYS3+mqV3XbySjeYKfsR8XzX+A565wMdMie0LLj9ysPys= Received: by 10.38.90.15 with SMTP id n15mr9433rnb; Sat, 20 Aug 2005 10:51:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.73.6 with HTTP; Sat, 20 Aug 2005 10:51:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <9cd98d1205082010512aeef7ff@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 12:51:38 -0500 From: Logan To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <003601c5a592$4965e530$15f9e204@4BANKS> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <003f01c5a517$ee377590$81f9e204@4BANKS> <56484ca2cf96b4011c66d9146cc47e49@gothic.net.au> <003601c5a592$4965e530$15f9e204@4BANKS> Subject: Re: Workarounds for blocked port 25 on outgoing e-mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 17:51:39 -0000 On 8/20/05, Jay Banks wrote: > I don't quite understand what you are saying. I have multiple POP3 > accounts with a virtual host and my servers at work, etc. I can get > e-mail from them all day long, but every ISP I use blocks my attempts > to send through them. I get "no socket" errors when I try and connect. Again, POP3 access is NOT SMTP access. They are seperate issues, seperate protocols. That's why you can download your mail using POP3, but have problems sending it out using SMTP. > Same thing for our company employees not physically located > in our area. They can get e-mail from our server (MS Exchange > for them) just fine, but none of them can send mail through it. Not > because of something on my side, but because of the ISP they use. Without knowing the details of your Exchange configuration, I'm not sure that's true. They may very well be blocked by the anti-relay features of Exchange. Think about this... how does Exchange, connected to ProviderA know that UserB connected through ProviderB is one of your users? > I would like to solve the problem for the above reasons, but it > would also be nice to offer POP3 access to customers and > know that they could use it from any location without having > to resort to some web-based front end. If their email address is in your domain, and routed to your Exchange server, then this should "just work".... for downloading their mail with POP3. Of course, that assumes that you have port 110 (or 143 for IMAP) access available from outside your network. > > Port 587 is the mail submission port, and is supported by sendmail, > > postfix, exim etc with little problems.=20 >=20 > I just played around with this for a little bit and it doesn't work for > POP3 servers through esosoft.com. Not sure if it is them or my ISP, > though. Are you meeting their authentication requirements? Simply changing the port number usually won't work. You also have to configure your client to authenticate to their mail server. > Doug Hardie wrote: > > Blocking external use of port 25 is a simple, but misguided, approach > > to spam control. Blocking port 25 outbound is a flame-war generator. :) I wish MORE large providers would do it myself. It's an effective way to limit the spewage from zombie farms on their customer's machines. It's much better than the providers who are the victims of that spewage trying to guess which of those customers are infected zombies on dynamic connections and blocking those. > > It creates too many problems for people who are > > properly using mail. The better approach is to require the use of > > SMTP-AUTH (preferrably with TLS) before permitting any mail routing. > > If all MTAs did that there would be no need to block port 25. Nope, that wouldn't address the main issue at all. That issue is hundreds of thousands of users with a "zombied" machine sending spam directly to other provider's mail servers on port 25. No relaying involved. That's what the port 25 blocks are trying to shut down. Of course, spammers will adapt, (and have already started), but it still cuts out a major swath of spam. > Logan wrote: > > Your access provider should be able to handle outbound > > email for you with very little trouble. It's probably as easy as > > asking what they recommend as the outbound/smtp mailserver > > for you. >=20 > Honestly, there is a way around this. My ISP can add > the IP address of my hosted POP3 servers into a > permit list.=20 How much control do you have over the MTA software config on your hosted servers? Can you set them up to answer on 587 and offer SMTP-AUTH? > I asked the DSL providers of one of our employees > in another town to unblock port 25 for that employee... > and the guy **laughed** at me. That's unprofessional, but hardly surprising if the employee has a standard consumer dsl account with a dynamic IP address. I've seen DSL IP's change as often as every two hours, which would mean they would have change their blocking list ever two hours. > That is what I setup with my sendmail/popa3d configuration. > And honestly, after looking at the alternatives, this seemed > to be the easiest route to go.=20 It is a bit of a kludge. My recommendation would be Postfix with SMTP-AUTH. It's not THAT tough to set up, and Postfix has the best documentation for it that I've seen.