From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 5 20:02:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F7BF16A41F for ; Mon, 5 Sep 2005 20:02:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from butsyk@mail.etsplus.net) Received: from mail.etsplus.net (cable-tv.sumy.ua [193.110.17.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D530243D48 for ; Mon, 5 Sep 2005 20:02:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from butsyk@mail.etsplus.net) Received: (qmail 47883 invoked by uid 0); 5 Sep 2005 20:02:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.25.118?) (10.0.25.118) by mail.etsplus.net with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 5 Sep 2005 20:02:44 -0000 Message-ID: <431CA491.1090603@mail.etsplus.net> Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 23:03:29 +0300 From: "Butsyk A." User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: hosting solutions X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 20:02:49 -0000 Hi list. Please tell where to find a complete hosting automation system. Not like webmin but with browser interface. I've found http://www.gplhost.com (dtc) and http://vhcs.net/ (VHCS) but they usually linux oriented, but i need bsd oriented. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 5 20:12:06 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20A5416A41F for ; Mon, 5 Sep 2005 20:12:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@yazzy.org) Received: from mail.yazzy.org (mail.yazzy.org [217.8.140.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B835B43D45 for ; Mon, 5 Sep 2005 20:12:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@yazzy.org) Received: from lapdance.yazzy.net (lapdance [192.168.98.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.yazzy.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2BA739828; Mon, 5 Sep 2005 22:11:58 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 20:11:40 +0000 From: Marcin Jessa To: "Butsyk A." Message-Id: <20050905201140.631c49c7.lists@yazzy.org> In-Reply-To: <431CA491.1090603@mail.etsplus.net> References: <431CA491.1090603@mail.etsplus.net> Organization: YazzY.org X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.0.0 (GTK+ 2.6.9; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hosting solutions X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 20:12:06 -0000 Hi. Plesk works well on FreeBSD - http://www.sw-soft.com/ Cheers, Marcin. On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 23:03:29 +0300 "Butsyk A." wrote: > Hi list. > > Please tell where to find a complete hosting automation system. > Not like webmin but with browser interface. > I've found http://www.gplhost.com (dtc) and http://vhcs.net/ (VHCS) but > they usually linux oriented, but i need bsd oriented. > > Thanks. > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 5 20:26:02 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D66916A41F for ; Mon, 5 Sep 2005 20:26:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brad@shockwebhost.com) Received: from fed1rmmtao03.cox.net (fed1rmmtao03.cox.net [68.230.241.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ED7643D45 for ; Mon, 5 Sep 2005 20:26:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brad@shockwebhost.com) Received: from 337vdub.localdomain ([24.251.150.158]) by fed1rmmtao03.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20050905202601.MLDN3588.fed1rmmtao03.cox.net@337vdub.localdomain> for ; Mon, 5 Sep 2005 16:26:01 -0400 From: Brad Bendy Organization: Shock Webhosting, LLC. To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 13:24:54 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <431CA491.1090603@mail.etsplus.net> In-Reply-To: <431CA491.1090603@mail.etsplus.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200509051324.54934.brad@shockwebhost.com> Subject: Re: hosting solutions X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: brad@shockwebhost.com List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 20:26:02 -0000 Hello- http://www.psoft.net Look into Hsphere, complete automation, I use it on all BSD boxes! Good luck! Brad On Monday 05 September 2005 13:03, Butsyk A. wrote: > Hi list. > > Please tell where to find a complete hosting automation system. > Not like webmin but with browser interface. > I've found http://www.gplhost.com (dtc) and http://vhcs.net/ (VHCS) but > they usually linux oriented, but i need bsd oriented. > > Thanks. > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 5 22:03:18 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43D1316A41F for ; Mon, 5 Sep 2005 22:03:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@dylangoss.com) Received: from server20.olicentral.com (server20.olicentral.com [216.121.191.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECF5A43D49 for ; Mon, 5 Sep 2005 22:03:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@dylangoss.com) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server20.olicentral.com (8.11.7/8.11.7) with ESMTP id j85M37l12007; Mon, 5 Sep 2005 15:03:07 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v734) In-Reply-To: <431CA491.1090603@mail.etsplus.net> References: <431CA491.1090603@mail.etsplus.net> Message-Id: <61C7F166-0BC8-4CAE-BD85-4CA937730B31@dylangoss.com> From: "D. Goss" Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 15:03:10 -0700 To: "Butsyk A." , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.734) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: hosting solutions X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 22:03:18 -0000 On Sep 5, 2005, at 1:03 PM, Butsyk A. wrote: > Hi list. > > Please tell where to find a complete hosting automation system. > Not like webmin but with browser interface. > I've found http://www.gplhost.com (dtc) and http://vhcs.net/ (VHCS) > but > they usually linux oriented, but i need bsd oriented. As mentioned before, Plesk and Hsphere are good choices and run FreeBSD. There's also cPanel. Of the three, Hsphere is the only one that is a "complete" solution that includes integrated billing. Both cPanel and Plesk expect to be setup with software like Modernbill to deal with automated account setups and recurring billing. There truly are a dizzying array of other packages too. Try checking out a forum like http://www.webhostingtalk.com. There are A LOT of threads comparing systems - the best thing to do once you've read a bit and checked out the sites is to have a clean box to install on and try the demos that all the software makers provide (usualy 15-30 days free). Install one, play around and then try another. You'll probably find one that fits your needs after checking out the major players. Just a FreeBSD note, Hsphere has some issues with FreeBSD 5.x (the control panel is written in Java and they are not happy with the 5.x implementation). Psoft (the makers) recommend 4.x for the cPanel server and 5.x for the hosting servers (need at least two boxes). Or you can run all under 4.x. I think that there is immenent support for 5.4 or maybe it will be 6 and then the whole system can use one server. You'll soon see that one of the strengths of Hsphere is that it is meant to be broken up over sever servers with each server providing one or more services (DNS, mail, SQL, web, even... ugh... Windows hosting). Good luck - Best, d. 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If you have time and skills it's possible to write yours one ;) > Hi list. > Please tell where to find a complete hosting automation system. > Not like webmin but with browser interface. > I've found http://www.gplhost.com (dtc) and http://vhcs.net/ (VHCS) but > they usually linux oriented, but i need bsd oriented. > Thanks. -- Oleksandr Samoylyk OVS-RIPE From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 6 17:18:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34E0F16A41F for ; Tue, 6 Sep 2005 17:18:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ericx@vineyard.net) Received: from vineyard.net (k1.vineyard.net [204.17.195.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C204143D45 for ; Tue, 6 Sep 2005 17:18:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ericx@vineyard.net) Received: from localhost (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by vineyard.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A939F91509; Tue, 6 Sep 2005 13:18:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vineyard.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (king1.vineyard.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 63693-01-63; Tue, 6 Sep 2005 13:18:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [204.17.195.113] (cheesenip.vineyard.net [204.17.195.113]) by vineyard.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 361249162D; Tue, 6 Sep 2005 13:18:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <431DCF52.9080403@vineyard.net> Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 13:18:10 -0400 From: "Eric W. Bates" Organization: Vineyard.NET, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050726) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ovidiu Ene References: <430656A8.5030103@unixware.ro> In-Reply-To: <430656A8.5030103@unixware.ro> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.92.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS-king1 at Vineyard.NET Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Load Balancing - Nice and Easy - no BGP, no isp help. X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 17:18:15 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I've seen one commercial product control incoming load-balancing with DNS. Theoretically if you set the TTL for the RRs down low (I've never gone shorter than 300 seconds; but I suppose you could go smaller); you could then 'direct' incoming traffic by providing one IP or the other. Tools like bind9-dlz should make it easier to control the zone file dynamically. In the case of a web page that requires a consistent route during a session, I don't know of an easy way to control bind response based on request source. You can put source configs in named.conf (we do this for "split-horizon" DNS when you use the same name server to respond to requests from both inside and outside a NAT). But I don't believe that aspect is hooked for dynamic control inside the latest version (I could be wrong). Can you share your pf config? Ovidiu Ene wrote: > Hello friends > > I am trying for a while to make a load balancer under FreeBSD. No BGP > support from isps! > > I would have: 3 nics, ISP1 nic, ISP2 nic and LAN nic. > What i've done until now, after reading lots of posts, googling for a > while: > > - I've suceeded to setup an outgoing load balancer with pf, it works > perfectly but only for outgoing traffic; > - I've noticed that almost everybody thing that it cannot be done load > balancing with BSD of incoming and outgoing without help of that both > ISP (BGP) > - I find hardware with proprietary OS/firmware that can do load > balancing without support of ISP. Some are cheap (300$), but at review > does not know to load balance incoming traffic (break functionality of > some pages accessed, since some of load is on one interface, some of > other, works corectly only if i setup to come some type of traffic on > one interface, some of other (for example trafic via port 80 on one nic, > ftp traffic on the other), also are expensive hardware load balancers > (over 1000$) that... i am asking myself how it works, without help of isp. > - I've found somewhere that it can be done load balancing but not with > one box with that 3 nics, but with 3 boxex, because (that article i am > "insipring" said that every box has just one routing table) because can > be created a virtual server that with handle routes from that 2 boxes. > - People told me that in Linux load balancing cand be done, 3 nics, 2 > external, one to Lan, with iptables. Here is a short article: > http://linux.com.lb/wiki/index.pl?node=Load%20Balancing%20Across%20Multiple%20Links > > > So, my question is, if some people made it (in expensive hardware that > did have the same OS, maybe even FreeBSD, and proprietary algorythms) > and in Linux it can be done (people told me, i've read articles and also > so it here, where i live) why it cannot be done under FreeBSD? > I guess it can be done, I want to do it with FreeBSD, and want to obtain > same performances as with Linux. > > What is your opinion about that? What should I do? Anybody suceed in > making load balancing work that way? > > Best Regards, > Ovidiu > > ps. FreeBSD is the best! > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" - -- Eric W. Bates ericx@vineyard.net -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDHc9SD1roJTQ4LlERAnZHAJwKnNsC9xX7iCc5GM3CV7jEpDlJHgCgyZUX 9U5JcwBy4JVlTru/8WLn/hU= =16h9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 6 18:04:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EF7316A41F for ; Tue, 6 Sep 2005 18:04:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mark@gaiahost.coop) Received: from biodiesel.gaiahost.coop (biodiesel.gaiahost.coop [64.95.78.120]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C509943D49 for ; Tue, 6 Sep 2005 18:04:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mark@gaiahost.coop) Received: from localhost ([::ffff:64.65.195.19]) (AUTH: LOGIN mark@hubcapconsulting.com) by biodiesel.gaiahost.coop with esmtp; Tue, 06 Sep 2005 14:04:20 -0400 id 0062808A.431DDA26.00006263 Received: by localhost (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 6 Sep 2005 14:04:20 -0400 Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 14:04:19 -0400 From: Mark Bucciarelli To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050906180419.GC2528@rabbit> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org References: <431CA491.1090603@mail.etsplus.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <431CA491.1090603@mail.etsplus.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: hosting solutions X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 18:04:24 -0000 On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 11:03:29PM +0300, Butsyk A. wrote: > Please tell where to find a complete hosting automation > system. Not like webmin but with browser interface. I've found > http://www.gplhost.com (dtc) and http://vhcs.net/ (VHCS) but they > usually linux oriented, but i need bsd oriented. There is Free Software hosting management app called vuser-ng [1]. It is Perl, and provides a framework that you can use to manage just about anything. Currently, there are plugins for courier-mta and asterisk. It has SOAP interface and (I believe) a web interface. The first public release (0.1) was just in July, so it is quite young. m [1] http://sourceforge.net/projects/vuser From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 7 08:29:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E4AA16A41F for ; Wed, 7 Sep 2005 08:29:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@yazzy.org) Received: from mail.yazzy.org (mail.yazzy.org [217.8.140.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF62C43D45 for ; Wed, 7 Sep 2005 08:29:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@yazzy.org) Received: from 217-13-2-82.dd.nextgentel.com ([217.13.2.82] helo=marcin) by mail.yazzy.org with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (YazzY.org) id 1ECvIQ-0001GM-2O; Wed, 07 Sep 2005 10:28:48 +0200 Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 10:29:08 +0200 From: Marcin Jessa To: "Eric W. Bates" Message-Id: <20050907102908.6271acc6.lists@yazzy.org> In-Reply-To: <431DCF52.9080403@vineyard.net> References: <430656A8.5030103@unixware.ro> <431DCF52.9080403@vineyard.net> Organization: YazzY.org X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.0.0 (GTK+ 2.6.8; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, ovidiue@unixware.ro Subject: Re: Load Balancing - Nice and Easy - no BGP, no isp help. X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 08:29:15 -0000 Hi. I am not sure what you're trying to accomplish. Sometimes it seems like you want redudant links and sometimes like you want a proxy server. Could you please describe your problem ? End a quick link for Eric Bates: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/pools.html Cheers, Marcin On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 13:18:10 -0400 "Eric W. Bates" wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > I've seen one commercial product control incoming load-balancing with DNS. > > Theoretically if you set the TTL for the RRs down low (I've never gone > shorter than 300 seconds; but I suppose you could go smaller); you could > then 'direct' incoming traffic by providing one IP or the other. Tools > like bind9-dlz should make it easier to control the zone file dynamically. > > In the case of a web page that requires a consistent route during a > session, I don't know of an easy way to control bind response based on > request source. You can put source configs in named.conf (we do this > for "split-horizon" DNS when you use the same name server to respond to > requests from both inside and outside a NAT). But I don't believe that > aspect is hooked for dynamic control inside the latest version (I could > be wrong). > > Can you share your pf config? > > Ovidiu Ene wrote: > > Hello friends > > > > I am trying for a while to make a load balancer under FreeBSD. No BGP > > support from isps! > > > > I would have: 3 nics, ISP1 nic, ISP2 nic and LAN nic. > > What i've done until now, after reading lots of posts, googling for a > > while: > > > > - I've suceeded to setup an outgoing load balancer with pf, it works > > perfectly but only for outgoing traffic; > > - I've noticed that almost everybody thing that it cannot be done load > > balancing with BSD of incoming and outgoing without help of that both > > ISP (BGP) > > - I find hardware with proprietary OS/firmware that can do load > > balancing without support of ISP. Some are cheap (300$), but at review > > does not know to load balance incoming traffic (break functionality of > > some pages accessed, since some of load is on one interface, some of > > other, works corectly only if i setup to come some type of traffic on > > one interface, some of other (for example trafic via port 80 on one nic, > > ftp traffic on the other), also are expensive hardware load balancers > > (over 1000$) that... i am asking myself how it works, without help of isp. > > - I've found somewhere that it can be done load balancing but not with > > one box with that 3 nics, but with 3 boxex, because (that article i am > > "insipring" said that every box has just one routing table) because can > > be created a virtual server that with handle routes from that 2 boxes. > > - People told me that in Linux load balancing cand be done, 3 nics, 2 > > external, one to Lan, with iptables. Here is a short article: > > http://linux.com.lb/wiki/index.pl?node=Load%20Balancing%20Across%20Multiple%20Links > > > > > > So, my question is, if some people made it (in expensive hardware that > > did have the same OS, maybe even FreeBSD, and proprietary algorythms) > > and in Linux it can be done (people told me, i've read articles and also > > so it here, where i live) why it cannot be done under FreeBSD? > > I guess it can be done, I want to do it with FreeBSD, and want to obtain > > same performances as with Linux. > > > > What is your opinion about that? What should I do? Anybody suceed in > > making load balancing work that way? > > > > Best Regards, > > Ovidiu > > > > ps. FreeBSD is the best! > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > - -- > Eric W. 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Thankyou for your time, -Craig From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 10 09:25:40 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E751D16A41F for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 09:25:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from blake@yfug.yumaed.org) Received: from yfug.yumaed.org (yfug.yumaed.org [204.118.103.170]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B868343D49 for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 09:25:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from blake@yfug.yumaed.org) Received: from [192.168.101.23] (zuul.beamspeed.net [208.47.101.170]) by yfug.yumaed.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 296424F7 for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 02:31:27 -0700 (MST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v734) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Blake Covarrubias Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 02:25:37 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.734) Subject: VLAN interfaces on FreeBSD; performance issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 09:25:41 -0000 Hi, I have a question about VLAN interfaces on FreeBSD. I've read the documentation and have set them up on a machine. After doing so though the machine seems less network responsive. Does implementing VLAN interfaces / tagging slow down network performance? I'm running FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p6 on a 500mhz Pentium III w/ 256mb ram. The reason for wanting VLAN tagging is the machine has once NIC and I wanted to multi-home it without having to install another NIC. The network card is using the 'fxp' driver. -- Blake Covarrubias From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 10 15:37:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B945D16A41F for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 15:37:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from vms046pub.verizon.net (vms046pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 726B643D48 for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 15:37:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from [192.168.1.3] ([68.161.79.217]) by vms046.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2 HotFix 0.04 (built Dec 24 2004)) with ESMTPA id <0IML000C1Y2PCZH0@vms046.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 10:37:37 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 11:37:40 -0400 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: To: Blake Covarrubias Message-id: <4322FDC4.8010609@mac.com> Organization: The Courts of Chaos MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en References: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.11) Gecko/20050801 Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: VLAN interfaces on FreeBSD; performance issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 15:37:38 -0000 Blake Covarrubias wrote: > I have a question about VLAN interfaces on FreeBSD. I've read the > documentation and have set them up on a machine. After doing so though > the machine seems less network responsive. Does implementing VLAN > interfaces / tagging slow down network performance? Some, yes, although not by much and that depends to some extent on whether your NIC has VLAN_MTU hardware support. > The reason for wanting VLAN tagging is the machine has once NIC and I wanted > to multi-home it without having to install another NIC. The network card is > using the 'fxp' driver. fxp is a good NIC hardware. However, if you are trying to connect two distinct subnets, playing ISO layer-2 games with VLANs is not going to result in a good substitute for layer-3 IP routing. You cannot truthfully multihome a machine with a single NIC. -- -Chuck