From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 31 19:36:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6082A16A420 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 19:36:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rtsit@yahoo.com) Received: from web53015.mail.yahoo.com (web53015.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.49.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6673F43D68 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 19:36:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rtsit@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 11698 invoked by uid 60001); 31 Oct 2005 19:36:10 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=j0EJTGitG7vCv9HMITXQcQkURPXerNItKInVxWiaQDngdPGaafRmYgOrjsFyNeW+txZiFwwV1w9VAuJWE3+rGIw8xejU+nTD9pykdAcuEQQJpNDQ1h2O9YviLNi8Lt0Y91REdpR/767T9kDLckKpBvopnL4MNjR3yka3dlRJQKs= ; Message-ID: <20051031193610.11696.qmail@web53015.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.232.87.238] by web53015.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 11:36:10 PST Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 11:36:10 -0800 (PST) From: rtsit To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20051030120050.AF4F516A41F@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: freebsd-isp Digest, Vol 136, Issue 6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 19:36:15 -0000 On thing you may notice is that you won't be able to run certain disk commands on the client boxes while your NFS server is in the middle of being rebooted. If your NFS is doing an fsck, the time to reboot may be even longer, which will cause a noticable problem. For instance, if your NFS server is offline for whatever reason, and you login to a client box and do a "df -k" -- the file system list will print out until it hits the NFS mounts, and then it will just hang there. Hitting CTRL-C or CTRL-Z will not help, and you'll have to open a new SSH session to do anything else. If your NFS server comes back online, then everything will continue as normal -- but you will have hung processes while the NFS server is out to lunch if the processes on the client are trying to access the NFS mount for whatever reason. I think it would be nice for something like "df -k" to timeout after 30 seconds, rather than sit there hanging for several minutes or longer when it can't get a reply from the NFS server. --- freebsd-isp-request@freebsd.org wrote: > Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 18:50:16 +0000 > From: Marcin Jessa > Subject: Re: NFS & rebooting > To: Troy Settle > > On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 14:41:01 -0400 > Troy Settle wrote: > > > All, > Hi Troy. > > > A long time ago (3.x days?), whenver I rebooted an > NFS server, all > > the client machines with mounted filesystems would > completely freak > > out. I'm not talking about application errors, but > that the nfs > > mounts were totally unresponsive. I couldn't > unmount the filesystems > > and I couldn't remount them, the only thing I > could do, was to force > > a reboot on the client boxes, after which, they > would come up and > > mount their filesystems without issue. > > > > I'm looking again, at using NFS for my mail server > setup, but need to > > know what the ramifications are if I need to > reboot the NFS server, > > or if it's forced to reboot without the clients > first dismounting any > > filesystems. > > A whole lot has changed since the 3.x times. > >From my experience, the clients (FreeBSD, NetBSD > and Linux) were fully > responsive and could reach the NFS mounts when the > NFS server came back > up after reboot. > > Cheers, > Marcin > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 14:59:51 -0400 > From: Troy Settle > Subject: NFS & Consumer-grade GigE switches > To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > Message-ID: <4363C6A7.10808@psknet.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; > format=flowed > > Hey, while I'm switching over to NFS and > distributing some front-end > services, does anyone have any experience with > putting a consumer grade > (<$100) GigE switch into production? > > While I should probably get a managed switch, I just > gotta wonder how > far consumer-grade equipment has come and if it'll > work for an NFS-only LAN. > > Thanks, > > -- > Troy Settle > Pulaski Networks > http://www.psknet.com > 866.477.5638 > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > End of freebsd-isp Digest, Vol 136, Issue 6 > ******************************************* > __________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs